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John Morris writes:
In article <[email protected]>
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> Alexander Baron <[email protected]> wrote:
> Of the two standard surveys of the Holocaust, Reitlinger mentions the
> War Refugee Report once and does not name Vrba (Rosenberg) at all, and
> Hilberg, in over 1200 pages names Vrba twice. So when, and by whom,
> was Vrba’s testimony considered the “BEST” evidence?
More than that. Reitlinger obviously went to some trouble to find this
guy after the first edition when he was anonymous. Curiously his name doesn’t
appear in the index.
> And who was Vrba discredited by? Michael Hoffman’s trashy little
> pamphlet “The Great Holocaust Trial”? Just overleaf from Hoffman’s
> account of the “discrediting” of Vrba, I see the “discrediting” of
> Raul Hilberg. But all I can really see is Hoffman grasping at enough
> straws to build a couple of strawmen.
If you’d read the press reports and seen the TV coverage you wouldn’t say that.
Alexander Baron

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Ulrich Roessler” writes:
> Indeed, and in the Zundel-trial, apparently, this was ably exploited.
> Do you understand, why Vrba’s account in 1944 had to go beyond
> those things, he had learned as an eye-witness?
He hadn’t learnt zilch as an eye witness. He made it up.
>Do you understand,
> that it might be allowed to lie, when trying to warn thousands of
> people against imminent danger.
You’re assuming they were in danger. From extermination, that is.
> Do you understand, that the information gathered by Vrba and
> Wetzler relied on their relatively privileged position in Birkenau,
> and their contact with the resistance in the camp?
Vrba was so privileged he had his own room and carried on a love affair
in the camp, by his account.
> # The analyses by Butz
> #and later by Staeglich are irrefutable. In particular Staeglich points
> #out that each part contradicts another. Staeglich is not at all convinced
> #that Vrba was even in Auschwitz, Butz seems to think he was.
> [..]
> #[End of quoted e-mail]
> This is a self-refuting argument: what Butz and Staeglich say cannot
> be refuted, but their opinions are contradicing each other.
> Actually, if those two pointers, applied by Mr.Baron here, had done
> a little research, they would have found the files of the Gestapo in Lodz,
> preserved at the Auschwitz museum, where the escape of Vrba (recte
> Rosenberg) and Wetzler are reported. [Ref. Danuta Czech’s Calendarium
> on the Auschwitz-Birkenau camp, 7th april 1944]
> The files where captured in Poland apparently.
> Who has now forged this piece of documentary evidence on Vrba?
I said that Staeglich seems to think that Vrba wasn’t in Auschwitz on account
of his testimony being so unbelievable. I certainly believe he was at Auschwitz,
but he obviously didn’t see what he claimed to have seen.
> See above, Vrba was not in the _Sonderkommando_, so it is easily seen
> that he hadn’t access to the crematoriums.
Vrba was in the property department of the Sonderkommando; I think he
used that expression. Somebody did for sure.
> References? Is this Michael Hoffmann_square, who wasn’t seen here anymore
> for some time? And do you really expect me to screen the Canadian press
> for references to the Zundel-trial?
I think the Oklahoma bombing has turned Hoffman towards religion. I’ve seen
his latest newsletter and it is, well, bizarre.
Alexander Baron

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From [email protected] Thu Aug 17 13:16:35 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Schwarzhuber Testifies About Gassing in Ravensbrueck
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Ulrich Roessler” writes:
> #Many Revisionists seem to claim, that the European Jews disappeared
> #due to ‘normal’ circumstances in war. Does such a deportation and
> #forced labour program belong to these ‘normal’ circumstances in your opinion?
> #That the deportation program was brought into action is easily
> #shown.
there were something like 30 million displaced persons in Europe at the
end of the war. That’s just in Europe. When one takes into account that
many Jews perished and all the other logistics I think it is reasonable
to postulate that millions did apparently disappear.
> # 1. Why does Heydrich, according to the protocoll, speak about forced
> # labour, which would cause a natural disappearance of the Jews, and
> # the need to ‘treat accordingly’ the remaining Jews. (See below)
better still, why didn’t he talk about gassing them if that is what he
intended to do.
> # Keep in mind, that Eichmann testified in his trial, that in the
> # part of the conference not covered by the protocoll, killing methods
> # were discussed. Why did he confess this, if the conference was only
> # about deportations? Actually, it was Eichmann, according to his own
> # testimony, who wrote the protocoll.
I don’t give any credibility at all to Eichman’s testimony. None at all. Didn’t
he say he had gone to Israel voluntarily?
> #>> 3) You claimed that the protocol of this conference ‘has been
> #>> tampered’ with. Could you be somewhat more specific? What parts
> #>> of it have been changed, and how do you know this? Please present
> #>> your evidence for that claim.
I’ll have to look that up, but can’t do that for a while yet.
> #The Nazis used indeed very often a camouflage language. Even here,
> #Heydrich indeed doesn’t declare openly means and methods of the
> #mass-murders. One should keep in mind, however, that at that point
> #1941/42 outright murder was already an acknowledged method and fact
> #in the anti-Jewish policy of the Nazis.
There were still Jews in Berlin in 1943. Some were even sent to the
(suposedly) privileged camp of Theresienstadt.
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> If they were all just looking for some random guy to
> blame (and only a revisionazi nut would assume that
> they were), how come they all picked the picture of
> the same person?
Because they were schooled, dummy. Demjanjuk’s supporters proved this in
1987. There was a forged ID card circulated. A lot of this was rehashed
Soviet propaganda from the 1960s which was used in the West to discredit
anti-Communist groups. It was simply recycled by the Wiesenthalers. Even
Organised Jewry in Britain didn’t want anything to do with these scum, that’s
how blatant it was.
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Fri Aug 18 16:12:56 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: The Dachau Gas Chamber
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Charles Freedberg ” writes:
> The report was prepared by: (exactly as listed in
> “SS DACHAU”)
> Composition -Major Alfred L. Howes, G-2 Sect, 7th Army
> Art Work -T/Sgt. John S. Denny, G-2 Sect, 7th Army
> Copy Preperation -T/3 Chas W. Denny, Jr, G-2 Sect, 7th Army
> Photographs -163d Signal Photo Company
> Printing -649th Engr Topo Battalion
Yes, and it is nonsense from beginning to end. On whose affidavits is it
based? What court proved it was used? Name one person who was “gassed” in it.
Show me one autopsy report. One.
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Baron, BTW, completely ignored my article posted under the
> original title. I posted a document proving that Nazism
> had very much to do with racism. He simply ignored it.
No, I didn’t. You’re confusing anti-Semitism with something called
racism. Whatever that is.
Alexander Baron

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From [email protected] Fri Aug 18 22:28:02 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> >If you’d read the press reports and seen the TV coverage you wouldn’t say that.>
> Sorry I lived near enough to Toronto during the first Zundel trial to
> get local TV broadcasts as well as the national broadcasts and the
> Toronto papers, so I have seen the media coverage. Hoffman also
> reproduces some of the newspaper articles. So I stand by what I say:
> Hoffman’s tract is junk.
Vrba admitted that he had not actually seen the “gas chamber” contradicting
the War Refugee Board report “nothing passed on from hearsay”. He admitted
that he had reported 150,000 French Jews gassed whereas only about 70,000
had been deported. He admitted that his 1964 book – which is trash – was an
artistic impression rather than a serious work. And you say Hoffman’s book
is junk?
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 20 02:42:55 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Schwarzhuber Testifies About Gassing in Ravensbrueck
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> Yeah, sure. One fifth of the displaced persons in Europe were the
> missing Jews and none of them could figure out how to get in touch
> with their families or establish their identities with the post-war
> authorities.
I know personally of at least 4 cases; obviously there are very many more.
Perhaps the International Tracing Service can fill you in on that.
> Michael Marrus (_The Holocaust in History_ Toronto, Lester and Orpen
> Dennys, 1987, chap. 5.) cites several studies of public opinion in
> Germany during the years of the persecution of the Jews. What seems
> clear for all regions of the country is that there was little strong
> popular support for the persecutions, and that in some parts of
> Germany there was hostility towards the persecutions.
These “persecutions” were almost entirely economic. There were still private
Jewish banks in Germany up until 1938. When Jewish businesses were Aryanised
they often retained their old names to trade on the good will of their former
owners!
> Of course, there are the occasional boo-boos, like Rascher asking for
> permission to test gas weapons on the invalid transports at Dachau or
> calling one of the “morgues” at Auschwitz a Vergasungskellar.
And the other little mistake of calling an ordinary shower a gas chamber.
> Translation: “I read this in a pamphlet and don’t really know.”
Translation: unlike our overpaid academics I do not have infinite time to
potter around in the archive at public expense. I visit the Library two,
sometimes more times a week, but I have other things to do besides humour
you.
> >There were still Jews in Berlin in 1943. Some were even sent to the
> >(suposedly) privileged camp of Theresienstadt.
> Translation: “When in doubt, change the subject.”
On the contrary, this is very much the same subject; you say a plan was
drawn up to get rid of all the Jews in January 1942, yet much later in the war
– until the end, I believe – there were still Jews in the capital itself.
I find that anomalous.
Alexander Baron

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Clyde Bruce Freeman” writes:
You forgot to mention that Dachau had a brothel. Perhaps Sonderbehandlung
was not always such a terrible thing!
Alexander Baron

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
>All of Jewry is
> Organized–into synagogues, into communities, and, yes, into political
> organizations. “Organized Jewry” is pretty imprecise. And let’s not
> forget your unfortunate words to Mr. Finkelstein. On the one hand we
> have these “Organized Jews” and on the other we have individual Jews
> whom you have called “Jew boy” and “yid.” Why are you so surprised
> when people put two and two together and come up with four?
Not all of Jewry is organised into the ADL, the Wiesenthalers, AIPAC etc.
In any case, these people are not JEWS in any meaningful sense. They don’t
pray three times a day in a synagogue, they are people who make a living out
of being Jews, lobbying for their beloved Israel and generally making life
hell for the rest of us. It has nothing to do with race, even less to do
with religion and everything to do with politics.
> I suppose that you think you are pushing your views on the Holocaust
> on a second front: you hold yourself out as this righteous guy who,
> simply for questioning the Holocaust, gets branded as an antisemite
> and that somehow this shows the emptiness of the historians’
> discussion of the Holocaust. The only drawback for you, of course, is
> that no one is fooled.
On the contrary, you are fooled. People tell you I am an anti-Semite and
you believe them like the fool you are.
> Between that and your constantly shifting story on whether Hitler was
> a racist, one wonders why you bother with such transparent antics.
I was basically winding up Keren, but again I reiterate, Hitler hated Jews,
I find no evidence that he hated anyone else simply on account of their race.
That is not what is generally understood by the word “racism”. Furthermore,
Hitler praised the Chinese and the Japanese so he was no white supremacist.
He was a murderer though, and should be condemned for that.
Alexander Baron

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Ross Hedvicek” writes:
> As a person whose relatives were in Dachau during the WWII – I feel that I am
> quite qualified to proclaim here (with offense fully intended) that the guy
> who put here that Dachau gas chambers were never used to kill people is
> FUCKING ASSHOLE!!! I mean it!
> and no! Do NOT have a nice day!
Your logic is even worse than your etiquette. If you had been there personally
you might have some right to make that claim, if you had investigated the matter.
In reality you are asking us to believe something because one of your relatives
was at a certain place at a certain time.
Alexander Baron

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Excellent article. Is this available in hard copy? I congratulate you on
an impressive contribution to Historical Revisionism.
As this guy Lachout appears to have been at it for some time can we assume
that he duped Faurisson and company or should we be less charitable? More to
the point, why didn’t this come out at the Zundel trial?
I was very disturbed to learn that it is illegal to be a Nazi in Austria; I
knew that but didn’t realise just how Draconian the regime is.
Alexander Baron

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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Ole Kreiberg” writes:
There are 225 crematoria in Britain; about 640,000 deaths every year,
including many burials. All the same, that does seem rather a lot for
Birkenau. It did occur to me that one reason there might have been so many
was because Hoess had taken a backhander from Topf and Sohne.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Clyde Bruce Freeman” writes:
You forgot to mention that Dachau had a brothel. Perhaps Sonderbehandlung
was not always such a terrible thing!
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 20 09:48:11 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Ross Hedvicek” writes:
> As a person whose relatives were in Dachau during the WWII – I feel that I am
> quite qualified to proclaim here (with offense fully intended) that the guy
> who put here that Dachau gas chambers were never used to kill people is
> FUCKING ASSHOLE!!! I mean it!
> and no! Do NOT have a nice day!
Your logic is even worse than your etiquette. If you had been there personally
you might have some right to make that claim, if you had investigated the matter.
In reality you are asking us to believe something because one of your relatives
was at a certain place at a certain time.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 20 09:50:01 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Gay Nazis? (was: Pedophiles!)
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Les Griswold” writes:
> Stick with me here, Bobby:
> So the higher-ups in Nazidom were faggots, right? And since the
> “holocaust” indisputably happened, that means that fifis organized it.
> That means that homos are responsible for the (supposed) deaths of 6
> million jews! Try spouting that around, then get back to me and tell me
> how many seconds it took for you to be called a “homophobe”.
During the Weimar era, Marxists portrayed homosexuality as a Nazi perversion.
In the 1920s and 30s, Marxists in America believed that homosexuality would
wither away in the healthy new society of the future. It seems that Marxism
was once a respectable if terrible philosophy.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 20 12:30:52 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Les Griswold” writes:
> Stick with me here, Bobby:
> So the higher-ups in Nazidom were faggots, right? And since the
> “holocaust” indisputably happened, that means that fifis organized it.
> That means that homos are responsible for the (supposed) deaths of 6
> million jews! Try spouting that around, then get back to me and tell me
> how many seconds it took for you to be called a “homophobe”.
During the Weimar era, Marxists portrayed homosexuality as a Nazi perversion.
In the 1920s and 30s, Marxists in America believed that homosexuality would
wither away in the healthy new society of the future. It seems that Marxism
was once a respectable if terrible philosophy.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 20 14:06:24 PDT 1995
Article: 32118 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: The Dachau Gas Chamber
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> Sorry, it’s been so long since you said what Suzman and Diamond are
> supposed to have lied about that I’ve forgotten? What was it exactly?
> Did they say that people were gassed a Dachau?
> If so, how is this a lie? The generally accepted conclusion is that
> gassing at Dachau is “not proved.”
Suzman and Diamond published a photograph which was captioned some of the
gassed, Dachau. This is a lie, the people in this photo were not gassed.
They probably died from starvation and disease. If they were gassed, where
is the autopsy report, the definitive proof that will satisfy me?
They lied through their teeth, because like typical Zionists they have not
the slightest commitment to truth nor do they give a monkey’s about tany
of the rest of mankind.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 20 14:06:27 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Al Baron – Mentally Retarded? (Re: Adolf Hitler – Racist?)
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> Hey, Al, if the shoe fits, wear it. Did Hitler make the quotes about blacks
> in Mein Kampf that I posted, or not?
I’ve already answered that. Yes. That doesn’t mean he detested them, certainly
no more than any ordinary white man of that era. And probably a lot less than
most of you good ol’ boys in the US ofA.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 20 14:06:31 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Baron on the Value of Testimony (Re: THE WITNESS THE REVISIONIS
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Charles R.L. Power” writes:
> When you first posted a message about the story on the Japanese
> bayonetting babies during WW2, you entitled your post “More
> nonsense – anti-Japanese hate propaganda”, and you asked “A) does
> anyone believe the baby bayoneting nonsense?”, as well as
> suggesting that the story was inspired by the “demonising of
> these slant-eyed inscritible [sic] Orientals.” In other words,
> you were a hell of a lot quicker on the trigger than you show
> yourself now vis-a-vis the U.S. Cavalry on the *identical*
> atrocity story.
No one is trying to demonise the US cavalry; there has been a lot of
hysteria in the British press against Japan of late. I don’t know what’s
happening in the USA.
> Now, once again, Al, can you be honest enough to admit you
> demonstrate a double standard here, and can you explain the cause
> of this double standard?
No double standard; if the Times is going to make allegations of that sort it
should be specific, ie what, who, when and where, and who investigated it, etc.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 20 14:06:34 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: The confessions of SS men: only an anti-Semite would not believe them
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Below is further proof of Baron’s obsessive anti-Semitism. For surely
only an anti-Semite would cast doubt on these extremely reliable and
thoroughly documented figures?
$Concentration camp OSWIECIM-BRZEZINKA (AUSCHWITZ-BIRKENAU) BASED
ON DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE AND SOURCES$, by Jan Sehn.
“Altogether, some four million human beings met their death at
Oswiecim”, from page 9 of the $FOREWORD$ by Janusz Gumkowski
one SS man, Palitsch, is said to have admitted that
he had personally shot 25,000 people at Oswiecim. This is not a
typo! Over 5 years, this is 25,000 / (365 X 5) = 13.69 per day,
or more than one person every two hours! If he worked a five day
week we would be looking at 25,000 / (261 X 5) = 19.15, or nearly
one per hour!
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 20 14:06:51 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> Hilberg “admitted” that he knew of no scientific study done to
> determine the cause of death of any gassed inmate. How one does
> autopsies on incinerated bodies is beyond me,
Well, there were lots of “gassed” corpses lying around at Dachau. (In fact
there was a lot of lying per se at Dachau). Perhaps they could have done
an autopsy or two on them. Why don’t you ask Harry Mazal why they didn’t?
> think it significant that none were done. As to Vrba’s “admission”
> that his book was not a serious work, Hoffman quotes him as saying
> that it was “not a document for the court.” That’s a little different,
> isn’t it?
Have you read Vrba’s book? How anyone could take that trash seriously is
beyond me. I guess it shows how desperate you people are. I’m not so
desperate that I have to endorse any crap, as my public disavowal of the
Mueller document proves.
> Hoffman’s pamphlet is a lot of over-the-top rhetoric about the brave
> “young German immigrant” who “takes on the entire Canadian
> Establishment” and ends up in the “Ontario gulag.”
True, but it was Zundel in the dock, not his accusers.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Baron’s e-mail to Alan Finkelstein
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> I believe that would put Vrba in the “Canada” group which unloaded the
> trains and confiscated the luggage and valuable of the transportees.
I’ve just re-read Vrba’s affidavit; he says he worked in the Sonderkommando
Property Department. If you want to play semantics, take it up with him.
Whether Vrba
> actually witnessed a gassing is irrelevant since it doesn’t take a
> rocket scientist to figure out that if thousands of people go to a
> crematorium and don’t come out they have probably been killed.
I note the word PROBABLY. By the same token it doesn’t take a rocket
scientist to work out that if a hundred people enter a hospital they
must be sick. They could though all be healthy doctors. What you are
saying is that Vrba claims to have seen thousands of people go into,
or near a crematorium, therefore they were gassed. Bear in mind that this
was the man who reported that 150,000 of the 70,000 Jews deported from
France had been gassed. That last sentence is not a misprint
> Of course, Al Baron will not believe any witness until we can find
> someone–a non-Jew preferably–who was actually gassed, took a film
> and sound recording, came back to life, and has an affidavit from God
> testifying to his honesty.
Actually I have read the testimony of one Jew who claims to have been gassed
and I still don’t believe her testimony!
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 20 14:08:18 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Adolf Hitler – Racist?
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> :>Now that one I do remember. I wonder why he said it. Could it be that prior
> :>to Franz Boas, the ADL and the appalling anti-white films churned out by
> :>Sidney Poitier some Jews were pushing race-mixing?
> Hello? I have not seen too many examples of Jews pushing race mixing, but
> perhaps you have some sources for this.
You’re joking of course. How about the Boas school of “cultural anthropology”
which was virtually all Jewish; how about the NAACP which was at one time
Jewish from top to bottom; how about some of the anti-white hatred and poison
spewed out by Jewish owned studios in Hollywood; how about the Jewess –
Ester Brown who was the real prime mover behind Brown v Topeka; how about
the Searchlight Organisation in the UK; how about the activities of the
Board of Deputies of “British” Jews. Are you serious?
> Hitler was speaking of the enemy (the French) whom he called Jews because
> Hitler’s enemies were almost always called Jews. The point though is that he
> spoke of a plot ot bring Negroes into the Rhineland to result in
> “bastardization” of the white race. Since Jews are members of the white
> race, that seems like a rather silly claim.
The interpretation may be “silly”; the facts speak for themselves.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 20 14:08:23 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: The Dachau Gas Chamber
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In article <[email protected]>
Harry W. Mazal OBE “[email protected], San Antonio, Texas” writes:
> > Now one more time, Harry Mazal. Did Suzman and Diamond lie or did they not?
> They did not. They published pictures of piles of corpses. The corpses were
> in and around a
> gas chamber. The gas chamber is and was real. There is published evidence that
> the gas chamber
> was used, and equally published evidence that it was not. It is, however, a
> moot point whether
> the corpses were there as a result of inhalation of poisonous vapors or
> premeditated mistreatment.
> One corspe is as dead as another.
No Harry, Suzman and Diamond claimed that the corpses had been gassed. Show me
an autopsy report.
I presume now that you have finally conceded – albeit ungracefully – that the
documents I sent you were not forgeries.
> Mr. Baron claims to have answered the question asked several times. He has not.
> The question is: “Is there a gas chamber in Dachau?” Yes or no?
And I have given you my truthful, honest answer: I have seen photographs of
a delousing chamber and of a shower bath which were captioned gas chambers.
I have not seen a real gas chamber in Dachau and do not believe that there was
one. There is testimony that there was, but I believe this to be fraudulent
with good reason. Incidentally, the leading anti-Revisionist Pressac says
much the same thing in his book TECHNIQUE AND OPERATION… He puts this
wilful misrepresentation down to sloppy reporting by war correspondents. A
likely story.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 20 14:08:25 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Schwarzhuber Testifies About Gassing in Ravensbrueck
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Ken McVay” writes:
> and a host of others, you have discovered FOUR.
> Where are the remaining eleven+ million, Mr. Baron?
I didn’t say I had discovered 4, I said I knew of 4. I have no doubt that
the International Tracing Service et al know of a lot more.
So its 11 million now, is it?
> Does Mr. Baron now mean to suggest, by his use of quotation marks, that
> persecution did not occur? That racial laws did not exist for non-economic
> reasons?
No, what I meant to imply was that I would rather have been a Jew in Nazi
Germany than a Palestinian in modern Israel. At least the Nazis didn’t shoot
your children.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 20 14:08:29 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> There were over two hundred anti-Jewish laws and decrees enacted in
> Germany between 1933 and 1940. A select list follows. Do tell us, Al,
> which of these did no harm to Jews.
The law that protected the Zionist flag.
Try these  from the contemporary Jewish Chronicle
IN THE LAW COURTS… reported decisions for and against Jews
>several partners in a textile firm applied to the High Court to excluded
Jewish partners. Court gave judgment in their favour, but the Supreme Court
overruled the decision!
A Jew and an Aryan girl were charged with living together. They were
acquitted “after a declaration made by both of them that they had intended
to get married.” their landlord was fined 50 marks!
An Aryan girl dismissed by her employer for refusing to part with
her Jewish fiance sued and was awarded damages
The Labour Court in Berlin ruled in favour of a Jew dismissed without notice
simply because he was a Jew and awarded him months’ wages.
Alexander Baron

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From [email protected] Sun Aug 20 14:08:34 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [LONG!] The Lachout Document: Anatomy of a Forgery
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Ken McVay” writes:
> Contact the Austrian Resistance Archives in Vienna for a copy.
What’s their address?
>(Does your
> comment about a “contribution” to historical revisionism imply that the DOEW
> report is false? If so, what is your basis for that assertion?)
No, as you have exposed an historical lie, you are now a Revisionist Historian
in the broadest sense. Don’t forget that Revisionism doesn’t begin and end with
denying the gas chambers [sic].
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 20 14:08:37 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
It is getting awfully tedious asking this, but do have any
> evidence for such a claim or do you just shit on a plate and serve it
> up here? Do you know who negotiated the contracts with Topf? It wasn’t
> Hoess.
That was intelligent speculation. If policemen didn’t speculate how many arrests
would they make? If scientists didn’t speculate, would the wheel have been
invented?
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 20 14:08:40 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Holocaust Denial (Re: The Dachau Gas Chamber exposed!)
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Marc Lemire” writes:
> ># I am an admirer of Adolf Hitler. I embrace National Socialism.
> ># I would do so even if the Holocaust *were* fact, which I honestly
> ># believe it is not. I would do so even if Hitler and his system
> ># had killed *60* million Jews.
> ><end quote>
> >A true classic of “Holocaust revisionism”, isn’t it?
The guy sounds more like an ADL agent to me.
Alexander Baron

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From [email protected] Sun Aug 20 14:08:43 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Frank Forman” writes:
> 5. Revisionists (and everyone else) should
> openly admit it when they are wrong, even
> if this is expecting a great deal from human
> nature as we know it. But admitting you are
> wrong greatly increases your credibility.
> It may also lead others to suspect that, if
> you were such a fool about some things, you
> may be foolish about other things, too! It’s
> a toss-up.
I always do; I am extremely annoyed about the Lachout document. The Anne
Frank story doesn’t sound quite believable, but save for the heavy editing
of the various editions, there is no doubt in my mind that she did write the
book.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 20 14:08:46 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Baron and the Witnesses
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Here is another strikingly sincere piece of witness testimony. Doesn’t
this entirely voluntary confession convince you, Dr Keren?
$CHASING SATAN An Investigation into Satanic crimes against child-
ren$, by Dianne Core with Fred Harrison, published by Gunter
Books, London, (1991).
page 88 “HOW MANY human sacrifices take place each year, and is
the very idea a credible one?”
page 89 “…most of the live sacrifices are babies born to the
teenage daughters of satanists, to provide the foetal eucharists
for anti-Christ covens.” she concludes that 4,000 a year “while
not proven, is not statistically absurd.” She uses some bizarre
arithmetic and logic to arrive at this figure. The estimate comes
>from a Dr Ken McAll, a former medical missionary to China.
page 91 “TERESA was a breeder. Her babies were taken from her
and ceremonially sacrificed to Satan.”
“She told me of the multiple rapes; of her seven pregnancies,
most of which were terminated by members of her coven, the foe-
tuses used for cannibalistic rituals.”
Core says she referred the girl to a good psychiatrist.
page 92 Ian Leslie – a reporter of 27 years experience
page 92 reports the murder of a tramp
“He was cut from his throat down to his stomach. And they ate
him, little bits of him.”
page 93
Ian Leslie: There were doctors there at the house?
Teresa: Yea, there were two, I think. Yea, and a nurse.
Ian Leslie: What would happen to the foetuses, the unborn babies?
Teresa: They used to be taken away most of the time. And one time
the baby was taken out of me and then killed in front of me
because it was still alive.
Ian Leslie: And then what would happen?
Teresa: What, after they had killed it? They would eat it. We
were also made to eat it.
Ian Leslie: You were made to eat your own foetus?
Teresa: Yea.
Ian Leslie: Who made you do this?
Teresa: My Nan.
page 94 Inspector Christopher Horne – a London detective – is
said to have endorsed Core, and Teresa.
page 95 a trial was scheduled to open at the Old Bailey, April
12, 1989. It resulted in no evidence being submitted by the CPS.
page 95 the CPS said nobody disbelieved the girl; Core seems to
interpret this as “We believe these events happened”.
page 95 two of the girl’s uncles had been charged with rape and
her “Nan” faced a specimen charge of procuring an abortion
page 96 Core said there was evidence that the girl had been
pregnant at least once
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Mon Aug 21 12:23:50 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> Ernst Zundel is no coward? This is the same guy who goes down the street
> wearing a hard hat, surrounded by all sorts of big, blond bozos, and usually
> grants “interviews” from behind a door?
Listen you moron, I’ve been to the UK headquarters of Imperial Zion, the
Board of Deputies of “British” Jews, they’ve got more security there than
at Scotland Yard, yet the only terrorist attacks there have ever been on
Jews in this country have been related to the Middle East. So don’t call
Zundel a coward.
I’ve seen some of the scum and riff raff who attacked Zundel and his supporters
and they didn’t look much like a persecuted people to me.
> Zundel, who propagated the book “The Hitler We Loved”? Who is one of the
> biggest publishers of Nazi hate literature in the world? This is the poor
> guy that was “persecuted”? You make *me* want to puke when you spread that
> rubbish around, Al.
I haven’t read that Hitler book so can’t comment. Zundel though is a publicist,
and he seems to have done a pretty good job.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Mon Aug 21 12:23:53 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: The confessions of SS men: only an anti-Semite would not believe them
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Michael P. Stein” writes:
> >$Concentration camp OSWIECIM-BRZEZINKA (AUSCHWITZ-BIRKENAU) BASED
> >ON DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE AND SOURCES$, by Jan Sehn.
> “Is said to have admitted.” Said by whom?
This comes from the above book by Jan Sehn, who was a judge, Mike.
This is an official publication, and shows typical communist disrespect
for truth.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
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From [email protected] Mon Aug 21 12:23:58 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: The confessions of SS men: only an anti-Semite would not believe them
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Charles R.L. Power” writes:
> Given the fact that Oswiecim/Auschwitz specialized in another killing
> methodology, I’d have my doubts about this story as well, but certainly
> not because there was any physical impossibility.
I didn’t say it was physically impossible, but just because something is
physically possible and somebody “confessed” to it doesn’t mean it
happened. Now if you want to talk about something that was not
physically possible…
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Mon Aug 21 12:24:06 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
> I am writing to you from Jerusalem because you may not be aware of
> some of the events that have transpired over the past week. My letter will
> have little to do with politics. Rather, it will relate to some of the most
> basic democratic rights, which most of us take for granted. It is a story
> which you probably have not read yet in the media, but one which
> desperately needs to be appearing there.
> You may not even believe the story which I am about to recount to you.
> I am not sure I would, had I not been there to witness it.
Is this guy trying telling us that the Jews control the Israeli media and
that they censor atrocities? What nonsense. Obviously another anti-Semite.
Alexander Baron

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From [email protected] Mon Aug 21 12:24:19 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> What then is your answer to the several quotes I have posted from Mein
> Kampf that belie your statement in respect to blacks?
I believed I’ve answered that. Hitler believed blacks to be inferior, that
doesn’t mean he hated them. Furthermore, Mein Kampf was written in 1923 or there
abouts. He may well have changed his mind about them and become more moderate;
don’t forget, he was once a philo-Semite.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Mon Aug 21 12:24:22 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Michael P. Stein” writes:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> Les Griswold <[email protected]> wrote:
> >So, we are supposed to be impressed by ANYTHING that “da Marxists” say?
> So, are we supposed to be impressed by anything Les “Hitler was tall
> and blonde, some old German told me so” Griswold says?
Anyone who hates faggots is all right in my book.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Mon Aug 21 12:24:29 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Charles R.L. Power” writes:
> there has been a lot of
> >hysteria in the British press against Japan of late. I don’t know what’s
> >happening in the USA.
Well, there has been a lot of bollocks about making the Japanese apologise
for their war-time atrocities. I don’t happen to believe that the people who
suffered Hiroshima and Nagasaki have to apologise for anything.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Clyde Bruce Freeman” writes:
You forgot to mention that Dachau had a brothel. Perhaps Sonderbehandlung
was not always such a terrible thing!
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Ross Hedvicek” writes:
> As a person whose relatives were in Dachau during the WWII – I feel that I am
> quite qualified to proclaim here (with offense fully intended) that the guy
> who put here that Dachau gas chambers were never used to kill people is
> FUCKING ASSHOLE!!! I mean it!
> and no! Do NOT have a nice day!
Your logic is even worse than your etiquette. If you had been there personally
you might have some right to make that claim, if you had investigated the matter.
In reality you are asking us to believe something because one of your relatives
was at a certain place at a certain time.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Mon Aug 21 18:16:32 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
> I am writing to you from Jerusalem because you may not be aware of
> some of the events that have transpired over the past week. My letter will
> have little to do with politics. Rather, it will relate to some of the most
> basic democratic rights, which most of us take for granted. It is a story
> which you probably have not read yet in the media, but one which
> desperately needs to be appearing there.
> You may not even believe the story which I am about to recount to you.
> I am not sure I would, had I not been there to witness it.
Is this guy trying telling us that the Jews control the Israeli media and
that they censor atrocities? What nonsense. Obviously another anti-Semite.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: A DAY AT AUSCHWITZ WITH DR
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> Are we talking about Dachau? I thought Vrba’s material had to with
> Auschwitz. I thought that part of Hilberg’s testimony had to do with
> Auschwitz. Please stick to the subject. Otherwise its like arguing
> with a child.
No, the subject is gassing; I will accept an authenticated autopsy report
>from either Auschwitz or Dachau.
> I have not read Vrba’s book and I probably won’t. I guess it shows how
> desperate we all are that neither Hilberg nor Reitlinger makes more
> than a passing reference to Vrba and that I have never relied on Vrba
> at all to make my case here. I would never suggest that you might be
> desperate enough to repeatedly suggest that Vrba is the be all and end
> all of evidence when no one but you suggests that. Merciful heavens, I
> would never want to accuse you of knocking down strawmen.
Vrba is the BEST witness, or one of the best two or three. Read his book then
tell me that you believe any of it.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Tue Aug 22 16:11:32 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Schwarzhuber Testifies About Gassing in Ravensbrueck
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> I see. Are you now arguing that there were no Einsatzgruppen killing
> squads, or that if there were, they never shot children? Or is it that
> they didn’t shoot German children and somehow Ukrainian children don’t
> count?
No, I have documented in my book the fact that prior to about 1941 – in
which many atrocities were committed on both sides – the Nazis never shot
Jewish kids. Unlike the Israelis have in peace time. Not that these Hamas
fanatics are any better; I think there’s going to be a bloodbath there soon.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Schwarzhuber Testifies About Gassing in Ravensbrueck
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> The witness tells how he hid in the bushes and saw that the Gypsies
> were beaten as they were herded onto the trucks and driven off to the
> gas chambers. Then the SS men searched the barracks and dragged out
> about six children between the ages of four and seven.
> “They were brought before Boger, who first trampled on them, then
> grabbed their little legs and smashed their heads against the wall”.
And then the Jews sang the Polish national anthem in the gas chamber after
the extremely attractive Jewess from France had done a strip tease for the
SS men. Grow up Keren, you’ve got a PhD, you can’t be that gullible.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Tue Aug 22 21:03:50 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: The Dachau Gas Chamber
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Charles R.L. Power” writes:
> I quoted a book by a U.S. Army officer who was on the scene, and told of
> a gas chamber disguised as a shower. Do you believe he was lying? If so,
> why? I guess it all comes down to the same question: Why do you dismiss
> the mountains of evidence for the Holocaust as forged or faked?
Yes, I do believe he was lying, or more likely that he wrote down rumour
and nonsense and palmed it off as fact. I do not dismiss the mountains of
evidence for the Holocaust as faked and or forged, my argument is with the
interpretation of the evidence.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Tue Aug 22 21:03:51 PDT 1995
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Subject: Re: The Dachau Gas Chamber
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Does anyone know if such a thing can be proven by an
> autopsy? Was an autopsy conducted at all? If gassing
> can be proven by an autopsy, how long after death will
> that still be possible?
Forensic science could prove such a thing even then; the reason there is no
such autopsy report proving people were gassed is obvious.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Tue Aug 22 21:03:51 PDT 1995
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Subject: Re: The Dachau Gas Chamber exposed!
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Staffan Friberg” writes:
> And how, pray tell, do you know this, Mr. Baron?
> There is, supposedly, a document telling about a brothel in Auschwitz but I
> didn’t know one existed in Dachau.
I found it in a non-Revisionist book.
> Can you come up with a source for this and tell us why it is different from the
> documents that tell about, for example, mass gassings?
> What if the two are in the same document? Should we believe the part about
> the brothel and dismiss the part about mass murder as lies? If so, why?
That’s a good point; tell you what, I’ll concede the book lied about the
brothel if you concede that the same book lied about the gas chamber. Fair
trade?
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Tue Aug 22 21:03:52 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Al Baron on Nazism and Racism, II
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “ibokor” writes:
> “Racism 1936 [f. RACE sb + -ISM; cf Fr, racisme] The theory
> that distinctive human characteristics, abilities, etc. are
> determined by race.”
> Quoted from page 2654 of Volume II of “The Shorter Oxford
> English Dictionary” (1982).
If that is true then I don’t see what all the fuss is about. Nothing there
could offend a reasonable human being. A socialist, yes, but no one else.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Wed Aug 23 08:14:49 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Schwarzhuber Testifies About Gassing in Ravensbrueck
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I am inclined to believe that people were murdered by phenol injections,
whether as “mercy killings” or something less “humane”. I wouldn’t give
any credence to the figures though.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Wed Aug 23 08:14:50 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Schwarzhuber Testifies About Gassing in Ravensbrueck
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:

> Alexander Baron <[email protected]> wrote:
> [of several anomolous decisions in the enforcement of anti-Jewish laws
> in Germany 1933-1938]
> These sound vaguely familiar, like some of the things Hilberg lists
> when the judiciary was still half-heartedly resisting implementing the
> laws. But, alas, I cannot verify whether you have represented them
> accurately, whether they represent anomolies in the system, or whether
> the “contemporary Jewish Chronicle” saw them as small victories in an
> otherwise hopeless struggle.
> How about this? Tell me:
> Name of Journal. Place of publication. Date. Page.
I wouldn’t lie to you, John. This was actually in the Jewish Chronicle.
Trust me.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Mark Staloff” writes:
> Really, Alex, it’s OK. No one will suspect a thing if you keep a low
> profile and stick to the dark theatres, but if you go around shouting “I
> hate faggots!” people are going to start wondering what motivates you so.
I’ve heard that sort of nonsense before. By the same logic, Dan Keren is
a repressed Holocaust Revisionist.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Wed Aug 23 17:43:34 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Kathleen Mulhern” writes:

> Thick black smoke emminating from the crematoriams is not a rumor if
> there are pictures of them.
Are you sure the smoke wasn’t painted on? In case you think that is a facetious
remark there are many more blatant fabrications, some of which are admitted.
>Why should we believe you, who has never even been to Dachau
> to see it, and not believe the prisoners who were held there and tortured
> there?
Because these people have an axe to grind and because even though they were
there they are repeating nonsense and hearsay.
> : But the whole point I am trying to make is that THEY DID NOT GAS ANYONE IN
> : DACHAU.
> Yes they did. Ask a survivor.
Better still, find an autopsy report. There is none for the obvious reason.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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Subject: Re: The Dachau Gas Chamber
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Barry Shein” writes:
> Let’s get one thing straight between us: I do not believe for an
> instant that these deniers, the real deniers, the Ravens and Zuendels
> etc, believe a word they are saying (well, perhaps a word, but not
> much.) I fully believe they are willfully fabricating this denier
> stuff for emotionally sadistic reasons.
Well, some of them certainly appear to have been parties to fraud, the Lachout
document, and you won’t find this Revisionist making any excuses for that.
But your belief that anyone who doesn’t agree with you is a liar is a little
naive.
> Yet over and over you write as if Jews are somehow working in concert
> in some secret way.
Let me get this straight: the Mafia, Organised Crime or whatever works in
concert in some secret way; the IRA does; Hamas does; the Freemasons do;
the international Nazi conspiracy does, (which according to you includes
the Revisionists), your own government does!
But the claim that any Jewish organisations and individuals
do is pure, unbridled anti-Semitic propaganda. Nice double standard.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond
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In article <[email protected]>
Harry W. Mazal OBE “[email protected], San Antonio, Texas” writes:
> The Nazis shot, gassed and and starved children to death. Mr. Baron’s wilfull
> mendacity exceeds
> all bounds.
How many Jews did German soldiers murder prior to 1941, Harry?
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
Harry W. Mazal OBE “[email protected], San Antonio, Texas” writes:
> > Alexander Baron <[email protected]> writes:
> > And I have given you my truthful, honest answer: I have seen photographs of
> > a delousing chamber and of a shower bath which were captioned gas chambers.
> > I have not seen a real gas chamber in Dachau and do not believe that there
> was
> > one. (etc)
There in no proof Harry, there is evidence, but there is no proof, and the evidence
is every bit as tainted as all the other “evidence” produced by mendacious cliques
of lying, scheming Zionist Jews and their fellow travellers and endorsed by
frightened old men like yourself.
I realise there is no point now trying to argue with you Harry because as I
say, you’re frightened old Jew. You know damn well that Suzman and Diamond’s
book is a tissue of lies, yet all you can do is keep making cheap innuendo
about my alleged dishonesty. Well I’ve got news for you, your co-racialists
on this side of the Pond have now taken one liberty too many with me and
will pay a heavy price indeed. Within two months, if not a lot sooner, I will
be making a revelation that will blow their lies to pieces. Watch this space.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Marty Kelley” writes:
> “History has been manipulated”? By WHOM, Mr. Baron? That’s
> what we’re forever asking you: WHO has manipulated PARTICULAR documents?
> WHEN and HOW did they achieve these manipulations? Please be spefific,
> both in the case of your assertions about the holocaust, and now, in the
> case of reports of Stalin’s atrocities.
> Scrupulous avoidance of passive-voice phrasing will be appreciated.
don’t be so naive, the news is manipulated every day. Prior to the invasion
of Iraq a young girl appeared on worldwide TV giving “evidence” that the wicked
Iraqis had emptied incubators in the hospital and left them to die. That story
was later exposed as a tissue of lies. The girl was an ambassador’s daughter
or something. Who was responsible for that? I don’t know: the President, NBC,
the UN, some unidentified clique in the Pentagon? Again, I don’t know, but if
I come home and find my house has been burgled just because I can’t identify
the culprit doesn’t mean I’ve imagined it.
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> By the way, did you know where Ernst Roehm, the number 2 in the Nazi Party
> for years, used to get his lovin’? Clue: it wasn’t females.
That’s one extermination I’ll forgive Hitler for. Incidentally, Torah-true
Jews believe that exterminating faggots is justified. They believe they
will roast in Gehinom for all eternity.
Alexander Baron

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> By the way, did you know where Ernst Roehm, the number 2 in the Nazi Party
> for years, used to get his lovin’? Clue: it wasn’t females.
That’s one extermination I’ll forgive Hitler for. Incidentally, Torah-true
Jews believe that exterminating faggots is justified. They believe they
will roast in Gehinom for all eternity.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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This pamphlet was approved by two Rabbis. Like the liars, hatemongers
and hate-filled slime they are, the self-styeld leaders of the Anglo-Jewish
Establishment referred it to the Attorney General. No action was taken.
Charity Begins At Home:
How To Help Your Fellow Jews – And Combat Anti-Semitism
An Anglo-Hebrew Publishing Information Pamphlet

2nd Edition
Charity Begins At Home: How To Help Your Fellow Jews – And Combat
Anti-Semitism$

The Jews In Business
Anti-Semites hold many erroneous beliefs about Jews including
that they control the financial system or even the entire econ-
omy. Bizarre as such beliefs may at first sight appear, a power-
ful case can be made out for them. The roster of Jewish names
associated with banking, particularly “international banking”, is
so long that it is embarrassing: Goldman, Lehman, Loeb, Seligman,
and of course Rothschild, to name but five. Jewish names are
well-represented in commerce too: H. Samuel the jewellers, Am-
strad (owned by Alan Sugar), and Marks & Spencer, Britain’s
largest (and most respected) retailer. Several hundred names
could be added to this list, but impressive though it is, it is
an illusion that Jews in any sense monopolise or even dominate
the economy. (1)
The anti-Semitic fantasy is that Jewish commercial hegemony is
the result of a conspiracy; the reality is that the Jews are more
successful in the free market largely because they are better at
satisfying their customers’ demands. After all, nobody $has$ to
buy from Jews.

The Jewish Poor
The fact that there are so many wealthy and successful Jews is
obviously good news for them, but it is bad news for the Jewish
poor, who have to a large extent been forgotten because many
people don’t realise they exist. The reality is very different.
Over the years, surveys have shown that the Jewish poor are with
us every bit as much as the Gentile poor, and in some cases more
so.
A 1974 American study revealed that the South Beach area of Miami
Beach had 40,000 poor residents, four fifths of them over 65 and
85% of them Jewish. (2) Most striking though was poverty among
Hassidic Jews, of all ages, largely because of the special pro-
blems their way of life creates for them in the modern world.
One of these problems is unemployment. As one writer puts it,
“What insurance company wants to hire a man with side curls to
sell its policies? What businessman is going to dismiss an em-
ployee at noon on Fridays so that he can hurry home to prepare
for his Sabbath when he can’t even make up the time on Saturday?”
(3) There are 25,000 Hassidic Jews in Williamsburg, Brooklyn.
Another reason there are so many poor American Jews is that they
missed out on the “war on poverty”, which was aimed at other
ethnic minorities in the 60s. Again, everyone – at least everyone
in authority – seems to have assumed that there were no poor
Jews. (4) But one does not have to travel to the United States to
find poor Jews.
In Stamford Hill, the site of Britain’s largest Hassidic colony,
there are large numbers of poor Jews, many of whom are unem-
ployed. In fact, if you scratch the surface you will find poor
Jews everywhere Jews live.
Jewish Charity
Another claim anti-Semites frequently make is that Jews look
after their own kind. If this is meant to be an insult, then it
is one that every Jew should be proud of. In fact, Jews do – on
average – give more generously to charity than Gentiles, probably
because charity is considered an obligation by Judaism. There are
many Jewish charities doing good work for the poor in Britain.
(5)
In 1982, scholar Harold Pollins wrote, “The Jewish Welfare Board
(in the early 70s) was assisting 2,500 elderly people.” And that
in 1974, the Board claimed in an appeal for funds that in London
and the South-East “one in every ten Jewish families comes to us
for help.” (6) At the same time, “The Norwood Homes for Jewish
children were looking after more than one thousand children.” (7)
Indeed, to this day, the Norwood Homes regularly runs appeals in
the $Jewish Chronicle$.
Misplaced Idealism
If Jewish charity has been generous at home, it has been even
more generous abroad, particularly towards the State of Israel.
Since its founding in 1948, Israel has received literally bil-
lions of dollars from the Jewish communities throughout the
Diaspora and billions more in “aid” from the United States.
Indeed, even before its founding, Israel was the receipt of
Jewish largess; two hundred million dollars were sent to Pales-
tine in the years 1939-48. (8)
American Jews, British Jews and Jews throughout the Diaspora
continue to send enormous sums of money to Israel and to lobby
their governments on its behalf. They do this out of idealism,
because they believe that the State of Israel is symbolic of the
struggle of the Jewish people throughout the ages and because
they feel an emotional attachment to it. Any Jew who does not
support Zionism fervently runs the risk of being condemned by
Zionist organisations as un-Jewish or even as anti-Jewish. Zion-
ism and Judaism are inseparable is their message. In reality
though, Zionism and Judaism couldn’t be more different, for
whereas Judaism is the Mother of all religions and the source of
our code of morality, Zionism is a philosophy purely of self-
aggrandisement, a vicious, egocentric, nationalistic movement far
worse than either apartheid or Nazism. It is in fact nothing less
than a well-organised and quite insidious international criminal
conspiracy which is responsible for the oppression, torture and
murder of the Palestinian people and the expropriation of their
land.
The Myth Of “Gallant Little Israel”
The picture the media paints of Israel is one of a defenceless,
democratic country surrounded by a swarm of bloodthirsty Arabs
hell-bent on its destruction. This is a blatant lie. Israel was
born in blood and almost from the beginning, the Zionists commit-
ted outrages against the largely defenceless and peaceful Pa-
lestinians with arms purchased by money raised by American Zion-
ist groups or stolen from the British, who ruled Palestine under
the Mandate. (9)
Israel has fought a series of wars against its Arab neighbours,
and because the Israelis are heavily outnumbered, the Zionists
and their powerful friends have been able to portray the Israelis
as David to the Arabs’ Goliath. In reality though the Arabs are
neither unified nor as well-armed as the Israelis, so they have
never been a match for them.
Since the birth of the State of Israel, and indeed before, the
Zionists have been responsible for untold and unspeakable out-
rages against the Palestinian people. (10) All of these outrages
have been funded by the American taxpayer and by “Jewish” organi-
sations and donations.
The Zionists have consistently ignored both international law and
common humanity. One of their most heinous atrocities occurred in
1982 when they sent their murderous friends the “Christian”
Phalangists into the refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila where
they massacred as many as a thousand defenceless people, mostly
women and children. The Zionists are continuing to build settle-
ments in the Occupied Territories in defiance of international
law, and continuing to oppress and murder the Palestinian people
in defiance of the $Torah$.
Many, many allegations of torture, rape and other ill-treatment
of arbitrarily arrested political prisoners have been substantia-
ted by human rights organisations. December 1987 saw the begin-
ning of the $intifada$, the spontaneous uprising of the Palesti-
nian people against their oppressors. This consisted mainly of
young people throwing stones at soldiers and in return being
shot. If this had happened in Northern Ireland the British gov-
ernment would have had hell to pay, it may even had been brought
down. But because these atrocities were committed by Israel,
nothing has ever been done about them. According to one source,
400 Palestinians were killed in the first year of the $intifada$
and 20,000 were injured! (11)
In December 1992, the Israeli government expelled four hundred
and fifteen men, literally turfed them out of their homes into
the desert, merely on suspicion of their having been sympathetic
to a terrorist organisation. Although there were loud protests
>from human rights organisations and the world’s press, the Israe-
li government has again done exactly as it wished with total
impunity.
In May 1993, the human rights organisation Amnesty International
issued a press release which revealed that since then, more than
100 Palestinians have been shot and killed by the Israeli secur-
ity forces, thirty of them under the age of seventeen.
Rana Abu Tuyur, an 11 year old girl, was murdered on her way to
buy milk on 19th December 1992.
Maher al-Maja’ idah, aged 8, was murdered on 20th March 1993.
Ra’ edah al-Qarra, a 13 year old girl, was murdered on 8th April
1993. (12)
This is the reality of “gallant little Israel”, an island of
$democracy$ in a sea of Arab tyranny.
Your Money Buys Their Bullets
Terrible as all the above is, there is something even more ter-
rible, that is the complicity of Diaspora Jewry worldwide in
these outrages against humanity, and against Judaism. When you
send money to Israel, you are buying bullets for the murderers of
Palestinian children. Anyone who donates money to the State of
Israel has blood on his hands. And, unfortunately, this is a
crime the leaders of Diaspora Jewry have been guilty of since
1948 and before.
Zionist leaders, the world’s greatest hypocrites, always try to
equate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. If by their silence Jews
condone this sort of blasphemy, then frankly they deserve to be
hated, but, surprising as it may seem, the Palestinian people do
not hate the Jews, they do not want to push them into the sea,
all they want is basic human rights, civil liberties and justice,
something the $Talmud$ makes much of.
No one is saying that you have a duty to speak out against this
sort of tyranny. The Zionist octopus can and does make life
extremely unpleasant for even its mildest critics. Gentile dis-
senters are smeared mercilessly as anti-Semitic while Jewish
“renegades” are dealt with in a number of ways. But you do have a
duty not to endorse the repression of a nation and the murder of
its children. Don’t send money to Israel. Don’t raise money for
Zionist causes, however well-meaning. Practice charity by all
means, but give to your own communities. There are thousands of
poor Jews in Britain and elsewhere throughout the Diaspora who
deserve your charity. The State of Israel and its murderous
servants do not.
Another Successful Pre-emptive Strike
In Order To Avert Another “Holocaust”
As the first edition of this pamphlet went to press, Israel was
paused to start yet another war in the Middle East, this time by
a murderous assault on the Lebanon. As these words are written it
is estimated that up to half a million people have been forced to
leave their homes. The rationalisation for this – as ever – is
that Israel’s security is threatened by Arab “terrorists” and
that, presumably, they must be wiped out in order to avert an-
other “Holocaust”. At the same time, a man who was alleged to
have murdered Jews in a Nazi “extermination camp” has been final-
ly acquitted after seven years in captivity – and detained in
custody to face further charges. It is ironic that nearly fifty
years after the end of the Second World War, Zionist leaders
still agonise over the alleged Nazi exterminations of Jews and
vow never again while at the same time they are busy perpetrating
a Holocaust of their own. To them, only Jewish suffering matters,
only Jewish deaths are important, only Jewish Holocausts count.
Hopefully, you are not of the same persuasion. Again, we appeal
to you: don’t send money to Israel or give the murderous thugs
who control this fascist regime an iota of moral support.
They have blood on their hands; if you do not condemn them total-
ly and utterly, you will have blood on yours by proxy.
Notes and References
(1) Marks & Spencer for example is a public company and in any
case, co-founder Tom Spencer was a $goy$. The diamond trade is
traditionally a Jewish stronghold and virtually a Jewish monopo-
ly; Jews are well-represented in the clothing trade; but there
are some industries where they are poorly represented if at all.
Asians are now extremely well-represented in retailing in Britain
owning perhaps half the small retail outlets nationwide and
almost every shop in London’s Tottenham Court Road!
(2) From page 3 of $Poor Jews: An American Awakening$, Edited by
Naomi Levine and Martin Hochbaum, published by Transaction Books,
New Brunswick, New Jersey, (1974).
(3) From page 61 of $The Hasidic Poor In New York City$ by Phyl-
lis Franck in $Poor Jews…$, Levine and Hochbaum, (ibid).
(4) Orthodox Jews everywhere face special problems: Kosher food
is more expensive than ordinary supermarket fare; Jewish rever-
ence for learning, both religious and secular, means that (pri-
vate) education is more expensive for Jews. Also, Hassidim espe-
cially have large families, which means more mouths to feed.
(5) It should be noted that Jewish benevolence is by no means
confined to their co-religionists. Just as there is an embarrass-
ing plethora of Jewish names in the banking field, so does a
study of charities, trusts and foundations reveal a galaxy of
Jewish names.
(6) Pages 213-4, $Economic History of the Jews in England$, by
Harold Pollins, published by Associated University Presses,
London, (1982).
(7) Pollins, page 214, (ibid).
(8) Membership of the Zionist Organization of America jumped from
43,000 in 1940 to 250,000 in 1948, and suffrage rights in the
World Zionist Congress rose nearly fivefold. Page 222, $Jews and
Money: The Myths and the Reality$, by Gerald Krefetz, published
by Ticknor & Fields, New Haven and New York, (1982).
And of course, if it had not been for Jewish capital, the State
of Israel would never have come into existence in the first
place.
(9) It should also be noted that some Zionist terrorists were
trained by the Nazis. Although this is not spoken of today, the
Nazis formed an alliance with the Zionists soon after they came
to power. And it was the Zionists, not the Nazis, who made the
first move. The rationale for this was their common purpose in
removing the Jews from Europe – the Final Solution.
(10) The violence and terror has not all been on one side, but
although all terrorism must be condemned, the terror used by
various Palestinian groups against the Zionists has at least been
understandable. The PLO resorted to terror in order to attract
the attention of the world’s media. * As soon as they had done
this they renounced terror. The only Palestinian groups who today
vow to destroy Israel are a handful of Islamic fanatics who have
no mainstream support either by the Palestinians or by the rest
of the Arab world.
* One must bear in mind that the Palestinians do not control the
$Washington Post$, the $New York Times$ and half the studios in
Hollywood.
(11) Page 3, $Punishing A Nation: Human Rights Violations During
The Palestinian Uprising December 1987-December 1988, a report
prepared by Al-Haq, Law in the Service of Man$, published by
South End Press, Boston, MA, (1990).
(12) Amnesty International Press Release, embargoed for 27 May
1993.
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ISBN 1 898318 55 7
First published 1993
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
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Funny but RACIST South Africa has never had time for race agitators. It banned
a visit by British National Front leader John Tyndall. It also banned a book
on Yassir Arafat because it was said to be offensive to Moslems. I looked over
the book and couldn’t say that I found it offensive.-
Alexander Baron

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You’ve just sent me a message claiming I sent you E-mail. I wasn’t aware
that I had. Somebody sent me a message and I replied to it. I’m sure it
wasn’t you though. I think.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> Well, Al, I crossposted your message to sci.anthropology and got the
> following response. You’ve claimed that the “Boas school” was “Jewish”
> and promoted “race-mixing,” yet here we have an anthropologist who
> disagrees. Is he a liar or a Jew, Al? Or perhaps you’d like his
> photograph and a notarized copy of his diploma? Or would care to admit
> that you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about with your Jew
> this and Jew that?
> No, because Boas and his “school”, that is, most of cultural
> anthropology today have given up on the concept of race altogether. We
> do not know what a race is, where one begins, where it ends, in either
> time or space.
> [It’s Al!]
> >>How about the Boas school of “cultural anthropology”
> >>which was virtually all Jewish;
> Margaret Mead? Ruth Benedict? Edward Sapir? Ralph Linton?
Ashley Montagu, Melville Herskovits, and quite a few others. This is
documented by Carlton Putnam in his excellent RACE AND REALITY.
Lincoln Rockwell interpreted this as part of the Jewish conspiracy against
the Aryan race. I interpret it as Marxist dogma and racial hatred.
As for the absurd claim that race doesn’t exist, well, you think Holocaust
Revisionism is bizarre? A most welcome development in this field is Professor
Michael Levin and company. Incidentally I’m not that bothered about race,
unlike most “Nazis”.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Harry Katz” writes:
> Nice double standard.
> Mr. Baron is continually mistaking sarcasm for evidence.
Harry, as you are obviously one of the more decent human beings in this
newsgroup I will refrain from answering like with like. There are masses
of evidence of the duplicity and power of Organised Jewry. The ADL scam in 1993
and the arrest of Tom Gerrard, for example. Many authors have documented the power of
Organised Jewry: Alfred Lilienthal; Andrew Hurley; Paul Findley in his two
excellent books; to some extent the anti-Zionist Jew Lenni Brenner; there
was an excellent article in Palestine Solidarity in 1992 (which has many
Jewish supporters) AIPAC’s SECRET FILES. The evidence is there for all
to see. All who are not wilfully blind.
An absolutely excellent book is the 1993 ARABS & ISRAEL FOR BEGINNERS by
the American Jew Ron David. After you’ve read this you’ll never call me an
anti-Semite again.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> But Al has no axe to grind, does he? Except with “Organized Jewry,” as
> he calls it. Al denies being an antisemite, and he will tell you so
> himself. He will also tell you that Hitler was not a racist.
Yes, Al does have an axe to grind with Organised Jewry. And in Britain
they are already sorry they ever heard of him.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Fri Aug 25 23:10:44 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Sara aka Perrrfect” writes:
> It certainly is. Why would the Nazis bother with AUTOPSIES, when their
> concern was killing?
> You stick someone in a gas chamber. They die. Why would an autopsy be needed?
More to the point my little Sharon fruit, why didn’t the Americans do such
autopsies when they liberated Dachau and found all these “gassed” prisoners
lying around?
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Fri Aug 25 23:10:45 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> BTW, let me state in advance that I didn’t “murder” any British
> soldier in Palestine (wasn’t born yet) and neither did my father
> (he was too young and, moreover, was in Brooklyn, NY, at the time).
And I have never murdered nor shown ill will towards any Jew on account
of his being a Jew. Perhaps you should stop treating me like I was the
second coming of Heinrich Himmler.
Alexander Baron

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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Harry Katz” writes:
This “swamp” is currently the site of Disneyworld!
David Cole said he had a choice of going to Disneyland or Auschwitz and
chose the latter because of its greater fantasy value.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Can Al Baron Read? (Re: The Dachau Gas Chamber)
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Since then, the letter’s text in the original German and in
> English translation was posted, a few times. Its location in
> the book “Nazi Mass Murder” (Yale Uni. Press, 1993) given,
> and its serial number in German archives also given.
> Still, no response from Baron.
I admitted publicly that I had made an arsehole of myself for forgetting
about this. I have read Robert Proctor’s RACIAL HYGIENE and from memory
I could not recall any experiments about gassing. Having said that, I have
no doubt that poison gas was tested on prisoners as well as other things.
I believe they also injected people with various germs. That is not the
same thing as killing people in gas chambers with Zyklon-B because they
were Jews.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Fri Aug 25 23:10:47 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Michael P. Stein” writes:
> Well, I would agree that according to everything I have read on the
> subject, Suzman and Diamond are _wrong_ about the photo – the piles of
> corpses discovered at liberation were not gassing victims. It is still an
> open question as to whether they _knew_ they were wrong. Al Baron argues
> that they had sufficient resources that they simply _must_ have uncovered
> the truth and deliberately misrepresented it. I am hesitant to accept
> that kind of logic as sufficiently strong evidence to convict.
Mike, you’re a wonderful human being and an honest man. And I mean it.
> This, I feel, is not. Al Baron has certainly offered
> less-than-convincing arguments, non-sequiturs, and avoidance of
> inconvenient evidence, and has thrown around vague charges against
> “organised Jewry” which I noted tend to smear _all_ Jews whether he means
> to or not, because they are so vague that they fail to _exclude_ anyone
> from suspicion.
As I’ve said before Mike, all this crap about THE JEWS is a dirty trick of
semantics used by powerful and totally fascistic quasi-Jewish organisations
to suppress all dissent, and to keep Jews in line. These people don’t give
a monkeys about anyone outside their own circle. Including you. And they lie
through their teeth constantly. I have the scars to prove it.
>However, he has significantly broken from the usual
> Jew-bashing crap, both in his acceptance of the Anne Frank diary and his
> vigorous defense of the Talmud against the lies of people like Ben Johnson
> and Colin McKinstry. I do _not_ suspect Mr. Baron of being a
> “wannabe-Nazi.”
I haven’t defended the Talmud, I have researched it in collaboration with
an Orthodox Rabbi who refuted point by point all the smears on it. This is
free inquiry. With regard to the Diary of Anne Frank; I believed it as a
schoolkid, then read the Revisionist analyses and the Meyer Levin story
and decided it was a load of bollocks. However, because there is clear
forensic evidence that it was written BEFORE THE WAR I have either to accuse
the Netherlands forensic department of fraud or change my mind. When I
am wrong I change my mind. Now if it had been the Polish authorities rather
than the Dutch ones, I think I would still have grave reservations about it.
Having said that, I am not entirely satisfied that this was the work of
an unaided 13 year old. It may be that she wrote the book with the encouragement
of her father, I really don’t know, but it is contemporary. On the other
hand the recent Anne Frank of Sarajevo has been severely criticised yet
no one has pointed the finger of racial hatred at anyone over that.
There is an enormous problem of evidence here: you and others keep asking for
evidence, evidence, evidence. When people lie so systematically it is virtually
impossible to adduce evidence; I am not talking here about conspiracy but
about the sort of mass collusion one finds everywhere. Added to this the
restrictions – and smears – that are placed on Revisionist scholars and it
should be abundantly clear that the Court Historians are not really interested
in researching this subject regardless of the consequences. If nothing else
they are fearful for their lucrative sinecures.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Fri Aug 25 23:10:47 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Michael P. Stein” writes:
(I asked Al Baron what horrible retribution was visited
> on the guy he mentioned who refused to testify, but Baron never answered
> me.) Still, wouldn’t one expect at least _one_ to write a deathbed letter
> saying, “I was afraid to speak out all those years, but now that I am
> dying and there’s nothing more they can do to me, I want it to be known
> that it never happened, I was tortured into making that statement?”
Well, Kramer denied the gassings, then he admitted them. Baer is said to
have denied them. Broad’s testimony is of doubtful value. The likes of
Burg, Staeglich, Rassinier and others who have questioned them have suffered
state and non-state repression.
The mere fact that it is ILLEGAL to question the gassings in Germany speaks
volumes. I’m currently reading the testimonies of some survivors given
in legal proceedings and frankly they are totally unbelievable. As ever.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> But Al has no axe to grind, does he? Except with “Organized Jewry,” as
> he calls it. Al denies being an antisemite, and he will tell you so
> himself. He will also tell you that Hitler was not a racist.
Yes, Al does have an axe to grind with Organised Jewry. And in Britain
they are already sorry they ever heard of him.

Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sat Aug 26 23:05:07 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Joel Rosenberg” writes:
> >Hitler stated in Mein Kampf that his first reaction to anti-Semitism was
> >one of disgust.
> Is there some reason to believe that he was telling the truth?
No more reason than to believe he was telling the truth when he said he
hated them. After all, he did suppress the Ritual Murder issue of Sturmer.
Alexander Baron
“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sat Aug 26 23:05:08 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> # Israel has fought a series of wars against its Arab
> # neighbours,
> [Quotes are from 1967]
The big difference between the Zionists and the Arabs is that the Arabs TALK
about exterminating Jews, and the Zionists EXTERMINATE Arabs. If these Hamas
fanatics succeed the Israelis will realise what a benign and humane man
Nasser was. They’ve already realised what a nice guy Arafat is. My principal
concern is that these lunatics will start shooting each other on the streets
of London. We’ve got virtually every loony “liberation movement” under the sun
here.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sat Aug 26 23:05:09 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Ken McVay OBC” writes:

> Had Mr. Saunders been listening more carefully during the
> lecture, he would have heard that the Polish Communist
> government, for reasons of its own, inflated the _total_
> estimate of those killed at Auschwitz, _not_ the total number
> of _Jews_ killed there. (He might have also learned that
> Holocaust deniers love playing with this Polish figure,
> because it is so easy to mislead those without the time and/or
> interest to learn the facts.. interesting coincidence, eh?)
He might also have reasoned that the Polish Government, for reasons of its
own, did a lot of other things. Like building gas chambers after the war,
faking photographs, and so on.
> I have questioned some of those “figures” for four years. No
> one, not a single person, Jewish, Moslem, neo-Nazi, or anyone
> at all, has ever tried to either silence me or persecute me.
YOUR work hasn’t been banned in Germany and South Africa. YOU haven’t
been dragged into court in France or Germany. YOU haven’t been firebombed
or had acid thrown in your face. Perhaps you’re not questioning hard enough?
> How can one explain why a man who publishes utter fabrications
> continues to do so after they have been refuted beyond a shred
> of doubt? How can anyone claim Canada’s leading Nazi
> propagandist is being “silenced?”
Well said. And I condemn utterly the Lachout fabrication. You might have
pointed out though that Mr Zundel is far from the only person who lies
about the Holocaust. Both the British and South African Boards of Deputies
of Jews are notorious liars and have used their lies to have the truth
suppressed.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sat Aug 26 23:05:10 PDT 1995
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JERUSALEM, ISRAEL
August 11, 1995
To: ALL CONCERNED
Subject: ABUSE OF CIVIL LIBERTIES
I am writing to you from Jerusalem because you may not be aware of
some of the events that have transpired over the past week. My letter will
have little to do with politics. Rather, it will relate to some of the most
basic democratic rights, which most of us take for granted. It is a story
which you probably have not read yet in the media, but one which
desperately needs to be appearing there.
You may not even believe the story which I am about to recount to you.
I am not sure I would, had I not been there to witness it. Even the
average Israeli citizen probably does not know the full extent of what
happened at the events I will describe. He or she only knows what the
Israeli government, owned and controlled TV and radio, chooses to
broadcast to him. And they have not told much of this story.
* * *
On Wednesday night, August 2nd, along with 1000 other people (mostly
entire families of women, men and children, many of whom hold
American citizenship), I attended a peaceful rally in Jerusalem calling for
the release of Rabbi Shlomo Riskin and Nadia Matar. Rabbi Riskin is the
American born Chief Rabbi of Efrat who served as a Rabbi of Lincoln
Square Synagogue in Manhattan before moving to Israel. Nadia Matar is
a 29 year old mother of three young children and a leader of “Women in
Green”.
Nadia and Rabbi Riskin had been arrested that morning along with 100 or
so others for practicing passive civil disobedience on a hilltop in Efrat (an
article on p. 5 of August 7th’s New York Times describes their efforts in
detail). While the others arrested were soon released, the Israeli
government ordered that Nadia and Rabbi Riskin remain imprisoned as an
example of what happens to those who oppose Israeli government policy
with acts of passive civil disobedience.
As we peacefully demonstrated in a public area for their release, baton
wielding policemen charged into the assembled crowd, stomping on people
with their horses, not even giving pause to distinguish between the young
and the elderly, women and men, able-bodied or infirm. This scene
repeated itself at the end of the rally; this time, even as families were
attempting to escape from the site of the demonstration.
By the end of the demonstration, hundreds of police were now at the
scene, chasing after the retreating crowd and savagely beating anyone they
could catch. As I was hastily leaving, I suddenly saw a policeman
violently pummeling a young boy, perhaps, 10 or 11 years old. When I
asked the officer for identification, he grabbed me by the throat and
started hitting me.
This was only one of numerous traumatic incidents that night. Everyone
in attendance described shocking stories of personally witnessed police
brutality, the likes of which I would have imagined transpired only in the
former Soviet Union and other police states. As of this past Sunday,
people were still hospitalized, undergoing operations for injuries suffered
at the hands of the police.
Later, when I inquired, I discovered that this event was by no means an
isolated incident. Israeli Police have routinely, violently beaten
demonstrators at rallies opposing government policy. In particular, the
“Women in Green” have been the victims of such acts. The violence on
numerous occasions has been so grievous, that they have produced a video
documenting some of these human rights abuses by the Israeli Police.
“Women in Green” is a group composed of determined women who
believe in the basic democratic rights of freedom of speech and assembly.
One meeting with these women and you will see that these are not the
faces of “violent, fanatical, extremist settlers,” but rather the voices of
large sectors, if not the slowly awakening vast majority, of the Israeli
public. These women understandably fear for the safety and the security
of their young children and families who, if the Israeli government and
PLO have their way, may live in the midst of a sea of PLO terrorists and
former terrorists.
It is these women whom the Israeli government most fears. It seeks to
intimidate and suppress their voices, for it is precisely these women who
are effectively alerting the public to perceived Israeli government’s
ongoing deceit and distortions. And it is this conspiracy to suppress
democratic rights which I fear more than anything else.
Can we who live in America, where we have these basic human and
democratic rights, stand idly by, while these rights are stripped from our
counterparts in Israel?
The United States of America is, hopefully, leading the Middle East into a
new era of peace. Yet, how ironic it would be if Israel, for decades the
only democratic country in the region, is allowed to suppress the basic
democratic rights and civil liberties of its citizens.
* * *
I recently watched two videos. One was the video I mentioned above.
The second shows the brave and fearless Jerusalem police officer, Mickey
Levy, plowing into a group of 30 women (“Women in Green”) standing
on a sidewalk in Jerusalem to arrest a young mother (Nadia Matar) whose
crime is that she is reading a list of the terror victims since the Oslo
accords. He and other officers then brutally beat and kick Nadia and the
other women there. It is all on videotape. It looks far worse than the
Rodney King tape. I could not stop shaking for 10 minutes after watching
the tape.
Do you know how we have that videotape? It is a TV station tape. The
TV stations have videoed scores of instances of police violence against
totally peaceful demonstrators. But the TV stations are all government
controlled and there is no legal way of forcing them to release the
evidence.
The only reason we have this particular videotape, is because in this
instance, we were fortunate in that the Police filed a suit against the
women involved, charging them with attacking the police, introduced this
tape as evidence, and the judge ruled that the videotape had to be released
to the defense as well. Part of the tape was deleted mysteriously. But
enough remains to show incontrovertible proof of what happened.
* * *
Can you guess what happened to Mickey Levy? He was promoted for his
bravery to become Deputy Commander of the Jerusalem Police Force.
And do you know where Mickey Levy was on Wednesday night, August 2nd?
He was the officer that I described above, beating the little boy and then
beating me.
* * *
I ask you to do three things. Publicize, publicize and publicize. Tell
everyone you know what you have just read. Publicity of human rights
abuses is one of the only defenses against them. The Israeli government
is especially sensitive to international publicity. Call the Israeli embassy
and consulates in your areas. These abuses will merely continue and
intensify if we fail to acknowledge them.
Sincerely yours,
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 95 20:17:23 eet
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Subject: Update 611
To: [email protected]

SNS News Service “Police Brutality”
August 17, 1995..21 Av 5755..Number 611..Update from Israel
SPECIAL REPORT
8:00pm.. Hevron
We are reporting the first details of a brutal police rampage in Hevron as
they are coming into our newsroom.
Israeli police came to the Maarat Hamachpelah (Cave of the Patriarchs) to
arrest Rabbi Moshe Levinger this evening at approximately 7:00pm. The
police had a warrant for the Rabbi’s arrest. He failed to pay a 350 shekel
fine (just over $100). The police caught up with Rabbi Levinger at the
Machpelah. They brutally grabbed him by his beard and knocked him
down. According to witnesses, he was dragged to a waiting police van.
Bystanders immediately began to run to the Rabbi’s aid. Police lashed out
at the Jewish bystanders without mercy. One woman was choked by
police, others were attacked, beaten and kicked. For over one hour, police
refused to identify themselves. They had all removed their identification
name tags.
The Rabbi was forced into the waiting van. Bystanders hung on to the
sides of the van to prevent the police from taking him away. The van
drove off, despite the people falling off the sides.
Police officer Rami Parchat drove the police van that, according to many
eyewitnesses, ran over the 30 year old Jewish man intentionally. After
running the man over, the police van did not stop to render assistance.
Parchat drove off leaving the man on the street.
A Hevron MDA Ambulance removed the “moderately” injured man to the
Trauma Center of Hadassah Hospital in Ein Karem Jerusalem.
Mr. Noam Arnon, the spokesman for the Hevron Jewish Community told
SNS that the police acted in an extremely brutal manner. They made no
differentiation between men, women or children,. They just attacked.
The Hevron Jewish community is now organizing to decide what is to be
done after tonight’s brutal police attack. Rabbi Levinger is in police
custody. There are currently about 200 persons at the Machpelah.
Tensions are high. A large number of Police, Border police and IDF troops
are on hand.
^^^^
8:15pm..
The police have closed down the sub-station which is situated adjacent to
the Machpelah. They are refusing to accept any complaints from the
Jewish citizens of Hevron.
Tens of residents have begun a march through the center of Hevron
towards the IDF Headquarters.
SNS will provide you with additional details as they become available.
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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 27 08:31:57 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Steven Malcolm Anderson ” writes:
> Dear scumjew: I am pro-faggot and anti-scumjew. Pharaoh should have
> killed Moses and his followers (scumjew like you) instead of mercifully
> exiling you from the Holy Land (Egypt). He was way too merciful!
> Moses invented genocide, not Hitler.
> Up with polytheism and down with monotheism! I am anti-scumjew and
> pro-faggot and a femiNazi. Sieg Heil! Heil Roehm!
I don’t know if this is a genuine posting, but if it is I hope you die of
AIDS you human dung beetle.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 27 08:31:58 PDT 1995
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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: DEBATING THE HOLOCAUST
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Les Griswold” writes:
> Ernest Zundel was busted for teaching his crap in high school. The
> > “Jew version” is the historically accurate version.
You’re confusing Ernst Zundel with Jim Keegstra; Keegstra did a lot more than
teach an alternative history of the Holocaust.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 27 13:00:18 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Fair and unfair criticism
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:

> Alexander Baron <[email protected]> wrote:
> Your enormous problem of evidence is that you have none. Even if, as
> you suggest, the lying is so seamlessly systematic, you still have no
> evidence on which to base your contentions. How then can you make any
> assertions about the Holocaust as a hoax?
I can give a much better example, the pressure of conformity. In 1978 I was
attacked by a thug, kicked all around the floor, and had a bruise on my back
the size of a small melon. When I called the police, none of the witnesses
had “seen” anything and I was told that if I wanted anything done I’d have
to take out a private prosecution. It is well known that such collusion happens
on a large scale; you can see this sort of thing in industrial disputes, or
when workers have been caught stealing etc. People are sent to Coventry,
ostracised and the like. The hysteria over the Holocaust is much the same,
and likewise we know that in Communist countries – and to some extent here –
people will go along with enormous lies. Recent studies show that people who
are hypnotised in club acts are merely going along.
There are so many organisations churning out lies – anti-smoking organisations
are a good example – which are given credence when they deserve none that
it is difficult to keep up with it. All this causes terrible problems when
it comes to assessing witness testimony. George Adamski had 3 or 4 witnesses
when he saw his spaceman. Joseph Smith had a dozen when he founded the Church
of Mormon. It is difficult to credit that any of these people were sincere,
whatever their testimony.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 27 13:00:19 PDT 1995
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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The Zionist Definition Of Anti-Semitism
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “pgroff” writes:
> I don’t think that Hamas will starting shooting at each other in
> the streets of London, but it is quite possible that those who follow
> the creed of Hamas will kill Jews. I guess that in your subjective way
> Nasser and Arafat would be considered nice guys, but lets fact it,
> they are just less extreme, but their ideas coincide nicely with
> Hamas.
That is total nonsense; the PLO has alway denounced anti-Semitism (although
there are kooks everywhere). Hamas are fanatics and religious zealots. You
can’t argue with people who will quite willingly kill themselves in order to
kill you. All Arafat and company ever wanted is justice; you can’t compare
them with the likes of Hamas.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 27 13:00:20 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: MY OPINION ON HOLOCAUST
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Which gas chamber did they build after the war?
You’re forgetting the L’Express article
> Which photograph did they fake after the war?
Read Pressac, the Smzulewski photograph has been doctored for one, assuming
it’s genuine, and that’s a big assuming. Then there are all those mountains
of boots etc. I’m surprised you should ask.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 27 13:00:21 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Ken McVay OBC” writes:
> Please provide instances of these lies, with documentation.
> (I’m not stating that these BoD’s aren’t capable of it, I just
> want some documentation, so I can determine the facts for
> myself.)
SIX MILLION DID DIE: see my critique of it. In 1963 the Board of Deputies
published a similar – though much shorter publication. They have also
consistently supported lying propaganda churned out by “anti-Nazi” organisations
in Britain (in reality socialist organisations) on the grounds that lying
about Nazis doesn’t count. They had second thoughts though when some of these
groups started attacking Zionism.

See also my PUBLIC REPLY TO THE ONGOING LIBELS OF ORGANISED JEWRY.
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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Subject: Re: The Nazis Are Back. In Israel
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “JWCCTI1” writes:
> In reply to the first of Alexander Baron’s two preceding posts
> (Message ID: [email protected])
> Baron, your first post, referenced above, contains no mention
> of anybody else as the author, unlike the other post. Were you
> yourself in Israel? I don’t understand the following statement,
> because I don’t believe you are a U.S. resident:
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Alexander Baron

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From [email protected] Sun Aug 27 13:00:22 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Can you tell us what is your best evidence that poison gas was
> tested on prisoners? That will, possibly, help us to understand
> what you *do* accept as evidence.
I gather this is no big secret; the British did it to. On themselves!
so did the Japanese. There is documentation. See Robert Proctor’s RACIAL
HYGIENE. Of course, if you’re saying it didn’t happen…
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 27 23:04:16 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: c3w Auschwitz 4,000,000 v @ 1,000,000?
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Ken McVay OBC” writes:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (T. Maczuga Kaus (ind. cat3wog) ) wrote:
> >The newspapers frequently reported individual accounts of “survivors”
> >living in the Houston area – frequently realling “soap” make from human
> >fat. Most consistently the number of humans reported exterminated at
> >Auschwits was 4,000,000 “Jews & Others”>
There is genuine confusion here, and I don’t think you can blame it all on
those wicked Revisionists. Western historians – Reitlinger for example –
have never accepted the 4 million. But the Poles pushed that figure. The point
Mr McVay and company wilfully miss is that these are the same people who have
been in charge of the site of Auschwitz, the same people who have churned
out endless anti-capitalist propaganda. The 4 million was an official Polish
figure – see the book by the judge Jan Sehn.
> Eichmann estimated 2.5 million, a figure initially repeated by
> Hoess, who later revised it to 1.1 million;
I don’t think you can take seriously anything said, allegedly or otherwise,
by either Eichmann or Hoess. This is simply wishful thinking, or desperation
on the part of the Exterminationist lobby.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Mon Aug 28 07:34:04 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> I didn’t ask whether it was possible for anyone to lie. YOU stated
> that you had no evidence to present that Holocaust was a hoax because
> of a systematic collusion in lying. The question is: if, as you say,
> you cannot produce evidence to back your assertions, how can you
> assert them as facts? How are they anything but idle speculations?
You keep carping on about this as though the onus is on me. But where is
your proof?
1) Where are the six million bodies or thereabouts? They all went up the chimney?
Very convenient.
2) Show me one autopsy report on someone who was killed by Zyklon-B. One.
3) Where is the film of the people in that gas chamber that Reitlinger mentioned?
4) Where are the mass graves of the people murdered by the Einsatzgruppen?
These are all acceptable proofs. You have produced none. What you have produced
is pieces of paper: “confessions” of SS men, like the “confession” written in
English of Rudolf Hoess. A mass of contradictory and ridiculous testimony about
Jews singing the Polish national anthem in the gas chamber and smuggled reports
by notorious liars like Vrba. Staged photographs, persistent misrepresentation,
polemics, and social ostracism and at times naked tyranny directed against
people who refuse to tow the Exterminationist line.
You’re the one who has to prove the Holocaust, not me.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Mon Aug 28 07:34:06 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> It is no longer sufficient
> to show that one confession is false, but that there is a pattern of
> falsity in the confessions that does not match with the physical
> realities known from other types of evidence.
> Revisionists have never undertaken such a task, but instead worry away
> incessantly at irrelevant side issues such as Rudolph Vrba’s guess
> that 150,000 French Jews were deported to Auschwitz when it is known
> by other means that only half that number was ever deported from
> France at all. The fact that Vrba was an inmate and in no position to
> know exact numbers is not taken into account. Not is it taken into
> account that Vrba’s guess at the numbers of French Jews deported is
> not given any credence but rather the fact that he was there and that
> he witnessed thousands–in excess of the total camp population–being
> sent to the Kremas who did not reappear out the other side. What is
> completely ignored when revisionists discuss Vrba is what happened to
> the 75,000 French Jews who are still unaccounted for.
Vrba’s “guess” was not presented as a guess but as very carefully calculated
first hand information. In reality most of the information in the War Refugee
Board report – that which is accurate – Vrba was not in a position to know.
This was very clearly a propaganda document produced by underground sources
in Poland for black propaganda purposes.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Mon Aug 28 07:34:06 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “pgroff” writes:
> PLO has in their charter that they want to destroy Israel, hmm it
> still sounds similiar.
That has been removed, I believe.
> PLO sends terrorists to kill children at Maalot
Was this before or after those brave Israelis destroyed the Lebanon; was this
before or after they shot a schoolgirl on her way to buy milk? Was this before
or after these poor, persecuted POWERLESS people butchered over 250 Arabs
at Deir Yassein, including 25 pregnant women?
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> I would be very surprised should Baron answer.
I’m very pissed off that you should expect an answer because I’ve posted this
stuff time and time again.
The photographs taken (or not taken) by David Smzulewski; there are only
4 of them. The naked old women who were transformed into naked young women.
Re the L’Express article, I sent a copy to Jeff Roberts and I’m hoping he’ll
scan it in. In English.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: MY OPINION ON HOLOCAUST
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Ken McVay OBC” writes:

> Citation, please. It is not sufficient to say “something like
> the other one, which I addressed, but smaller” (i.e. not the
> same thing at all) – you have not provided any information
> which would tell me who published the article, although I
> assume you are saying tat the BoD did, you have not provided
> the title, or instances of the “lies” contained within the
> document.
Ken, whenever I expose a lie that is provable you change the subject. If I
give you a source please tell me what you are going to do with it.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Mon Aug 28 07:34:08 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Charles R.L. Power” writes:
> I am not familiar with Proctor’s work, and doubt I would want to go to
> the trouble and, probably, expense of acquiring it. Why do you accept
> Proctor’s word?
Because I have no reason not to accept it. I have seen the bodies of
people who were murdered in the Dachau experiments and am satisfied that
they were murdered in the course of such medical experiments. Proctor’s
book is worth reading, it covers Nazi race science.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:

> I once called Al Baron an “insupportable non-entity.” That’s pretty
> insulting, and, though I regret having said it, I can’t undo a past
> outrage.
> Hope this helps!
Are you apologising or reiterating, John?

Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond
From [email protected] Mon Aug 28 17:08:49 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
>The Jewish women were forced to undress in an open place
> close to the gas chamber, and were driven into the gas chamber by the
> above mentioned SS members and the Ukrainian auxiliaries. when the
> women were shut up in the gas chamber I and Bolender set the motor in
> motion. The motor functioned first in neutral. Both of us stood by
> the motor and switched from “Neutral” (Freiauspuff) to “Cell” (Zelle),
> so that the gas was conveyed to the chamber. At the suggestion of the
> chemist, I fixed the motor on a definite speed so that it was
> unnecessary henceforth to press on the gas. About ten minutes later
> the thirty to forty women were dead.
You mean this guy had 40 naked women, and he could think of nothing better
than to gas them?
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Mon Aug 28 17:08:50 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Barry Shein” writes:
> Vagaries like some contradiction exists here or there doesn’t quite
> cut it after 50+ years. You would think *someone* would have made a
> killing off of writing their book “How I Falsified Evidence Against
> The Nazis”.
At least one person has written such a book, Sefton Delmer, BLACK BOOMERANG,
1962. c1993 some fake photographs used by the SOE were declassified. Those
and other stuff. I’ve inspected the file at the Public Record Office but
the photos I wanted are not there. In other words, they are still
classified.
> Yes, it might be illegal in Germany, but it’s not illegal at all in
> the US or other countries (would it be illegal in the UK? I doubt it,
> but I think just the US is enough.)
No thanks to the ADL.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Mon Aug 28 17:08:51 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Michael P. Stein” writes:

> If Baron keeps ignoring plain text in front of his nose, oh boy yes
> indeed his credibility is going to be diminished.
I don’t think so Mike, so far we’ve been told that the photo was
taken by Smzulewski, then that it wasn’t; it has been admitted that it
has been touched up and a whole pseudo-history has been built round it.
You may be impressed by the frame of reference, I am not. We still have no
proof that it is genuine nor that the naked women were on their way to be
gassed. Furthermore, when was it released to the world? When did it first
appear in the literature? Was it used at any trial? The earliest printed
refence I’ve seen is 1957, though there has to be an earlier one. If though
it did not appear in print before the end of 1944 I would seriously suggest
it be discounted totally.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Mon Aug 28 17:08:52 PDT 1995
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Please respond in the appropriate groups
>> In article <[email protected]>
>> [email protected] “Charles Freedberg ” writes:
> Baron: That’s right! I’ve proven in my research that the Jews now
> are the spawn of Satan, and we’re the true Yids.
I’ve told you before I am neither a Nazi or an anti-Semite and in six months
I should have a libel judgment to prove it.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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Subject: Re: Gay Nazis? (was: Pedophiles!)
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Steven Malcolm Anderson ” writes:

> >Does this mean that you support executing people because they
> >are homosexuals? Or that you don’t support it, but you’re
> >willing to forgive people who carry out such executions? Does
> >your opinion carry over to lesbians too?

I don’t support it but I don’t lose any sleep anytime one of these human
dung beetles bites the dust. I think AIDS is the best thing that ever happened
to them. It is by the way a total myth that most violence against faggots is
by “homophobes”. Their crime rates – especially murder – are way in excess of
the normal population.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

>Your original article was as follows:
>
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “CyberKnght” writes:
> Check all that apply
> Jews__ the men in black hats and caftans only. To that I will add Ayn Rand
(of course), Mike Stein definitely, probably Harry Katz, Jackie Mason. Professor
Michael Levin (in spite of his sometimes objectionable views on race). David
Cole of course. Oh and, er, I like Barry Manillow, incidentally.
> Muslims__ as long as they’re not fanatics
> Japanese__
> Chinese__
> Negros__ as long as they don’t practise miscegenation or call for the
destruction of Western Man. I’m not sure about Louis Farrakhan; he’s said
a lot of strong things but I think he means well.
> Australian Aboriginese__
> Native Americans__
> Inuit__
> Maori__
> Physically handicapped__ actually I’m registered disabled myself, although
you wouldn’t notice. I suffer from chronic backpain.
> Mentally handicapped__ mattoids rather than morons are the bane of mankind.
> Dyslexics__ dnt’o kown abuot thees
> Indians__
> Arabs__
> Germans__ this may come as a shock but I don’t particularly like Germans;
although I admire Zundel for his courageous stand against the conspiracy we
all know doesn’t really exist, I am non-plussed that he ignored all my letters.
I am certainly no fan of Hitler; more realistically, I recognise that if Hitler
had died in 1939 he would have gone down in history as one of the greatest
leaders of all time, but he did a lot of bad things even when you take into
consideration the whining and wailing of Organised Jewry. I think if I’d lived
in Nazi Germany I’d have found my way into a concentration camp in double quick
time.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

>Your original article was as follows:
>
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Les Griswold” writes:
> The question is very simple: how many of you have read _The Turner Diaries_?
I have. This is the sort of trash the ADL love because it portrays them as
the good guys. The simple fact though is that any worthwhile cause can be
tainted by violence and murder. We’ve had lunatics here – animal “rights”
fanatics, planting bombs under cars. But that doesn’t mean that cruelty to
animals is a good idea.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond
>Your original article was as follows:
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Henry Ayre” writes:
> >It is quite true that many of the Allied nations were anti-semetic. Take
> >Canada for example. They did not put out a helping hand for the Jews after
> >the war.
The Jewish community in Canada is still mad about it and writes
> >quite alot of articles trying to make Canadians feel some sort of quilt for
> >it.
This is pure bullshit. Exactly why Canada should have felt obliged to HELP
the Jews after the war is anyone’s guess. There were 30 or 40 million displaced
persons after the war. Was Canada supposed to help all them? The other claim is
that no country wanted to take the Jews in = proof of anti-Semitism. The simple
fact though is that immigrants are never popular unless they’ve got bags of
money. It’s only common sense. White Europeans weren’t exactly popular with
the Red Man when they immigrated to America.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Mon Aug 28 17:08:53 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> 3) Would you forgive someone who murders homosexuals (and does
> so only because they are homosexuals)?
Refer to my failed posting.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Tue Aug 29 15:55:10 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Ken McVay OBC” writes:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>
> > [email protected] “Ken McVay OBC” writes:
> >> Citation, please. It is not sufficient to say “something like
> >> the other one, which I addressed, but smaller” (i.e. not the
> >> same thing at all) – you have not provided any information
> >> which would tell me who published the article, although I
> >> assume you are saying tat the BoD did, you have not provided
> >> the title, or instances of the “lies” contained within the
> >> document.
> >Ken, whenever I expose a lie that is provable you change the subject. If I
> >give you a source please tell me what you are going to do with it.
> I don’t see that you have exposed anything, since I still
> don’t know the title of the BoD work you alluded to. If you
> give it to me, I will _write_ to the BoD and request both the
> document in question and whatever background information is
> available.
> Given permission, I will then archive that document on my
> system.
Letters To My Daughter, (1963), 8 pages. This was actually published as
a series of articles in a newspaper and then reprinted by these arch-liars
and enemies of humanity. If they can’t or won’t supply you with photocopies
there is a copy in the archive of the Sternberg Centre for Judaism. If you
can’t get it from them you can get it from me, but you’ll have to pay me.
Make sure your readers understand this is a work of fiction, like 99% of the
trash these damned liars churn out.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Tue Aug 29 15:55:11 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “pgroff” writes:
> but you do have to remember that at Dier Yassein the
> Iranian soldiers decided not to surrender and killed an officer of the
> Lehi under a flag of truce, and besides those are like of all brave
> arabs they hide behind women and shoot, what did you expect??
Arabs is spelt with a capital A. It’s no wonder you poor saps believe
everything you read about the Holocaust so uncritically when you’ve been
swallowing this Zionist eyewash for decades.
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Tue Aug 29 15:55:12 PDT 1995
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$AUERBACH TRIAL ENDS: SENTENCE OF 2 1/2 YEARS’ IMPRISONMENT$, published
in the $Times$, August 15, 1952, page 4

Phillip Auerbach, former chief of the Bavarian restitution office,
was the leader of a clique of Jews convicted of a financial
swindle. Auerbach was acquitted of most of the charges. He was
said to have claimed compensation amounting to L100,000 for Nazi
victims who either didn’t exist or who had long since migrated.
He was acquitted of the L100,000 charge but his convictions
included blackmail, embezzlement and taking bribes. Among other
things.
$Times$, August 18, 1952, page 3: reports the suicide of Phillip
Auerbach less than 48 hours after he had been sentenced to two and a half
years.
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Wed Aug 30 11:52:59 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]_5.cs.auckland.ac.nz>
[email protected] “McKinstry” writes:
> Baron: I for one have nothing against Jews. Just make it a
> > painless death. Unless of course their rich Yids. Don’t
> > worry, I’ll forgive you afterwards.
Please tell me when and where I have ever advocated murdering Jews. Arsehole.
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Wed Aug 30 12:19:16 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Who says they were old?
Pressac. He says they were not young. You interpret it.
> You have also hinted that photographs of piles of shoes (or was
> it boots) are fake. What photographs are these, and what is your
> proof that they are fake?
They don’t look real; take a closer look in Walendy, Sehn (1957) or th
Pictorial History of the Holocaust.
> # Re the L’Express article, I sent a copy to Jeff Roberts and
> # I’m hoping he’ll scan it in. In English.
> This guy is just unbelievable, he just cannot answer a simple
> question, even when it’s presented to him time after time.
> I am asking you again:
> What gas chamber did the “Polish government build after the war”?
The Auschwitz gas chamber is said to be a “reconstruction”. I think we should
wait until Jeff scans this in.
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Wed Aug 30 12:19:17 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> What is left for this miserable clown Baron is to try and
> flame people. He has nothing to say, so he resorts to
> behaving like an obnoxious 15-year-old.
> Grow up, you pathetic creature.
Let me rephrase that, Dr Keren. Under what circumstances did this SS man
confess to these murders? Was he cross-examined? Was he under sentence of
death already? Were his wife and children in the next cell? On what evidence
do you accept this confession?
And don’t you know that Oswald was innocent? It was me who killed JFK.-
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Wed Aug 30 12:19:18 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Charles R.L. Power” writes:

> Ah, another fascinating crime statistic from the revisionist camp,
> like the one about interracial rapes from Griswold a while back, or
> the one about Jewish terrorism Lemire seems to be unable to back up.
> I don’t suppose you have a source on this, Al? Did you make it up
> all by yourself? What agency collects murder statistics by sexual
> preference?
Off-hand I think it might have been Fumento’s THE MYTH OF HOMOSEXUAL AIDS
or Stephen Green’s excellent THE SEXUAL DEAD-END. They can all roast in
Gehinom as far as I’m concerned.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Thu Aug 31 22:50:06 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Joel Rosenberg” writes:

> One more time — and I’ll type it slowly, so that you can follow — the 4
> million figure was a Polish government fabrication, in which they claimed that
> about a million Jews and about three million Poles were murdered there. No
> serious historian took it seriously; it’s always been the fact that about a
> million Jews and some relatively small number of non-Jews were murdered there.
Okay, so you claim – on what evidence? – that the Polish government fabricated
the 4 million figure. What else did the Polish government fabricate? How many
eyewitnesses did they coach, for example? If the government (with massive
resources and, as in Poland, a state monopoly on the media) can fabricate
statistics, they can fabricate other things as well.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Thu Aug 31 22:50:06 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Schwarzhuber Testifies About Gassing in Ravensbrueck
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Marty Kelley” writes:
> > And then the Jews sang the Polish national anthem in the gas chamber after
> > the extremely attractive Jewess from France had done a strip tease for the
> > SS men. Grow up Keren, you’ve got a PhD, you can’t be that gullible.
> I’m amazed (although by now, I shouldn’t be) by the tone of your reply,
> Mr. Baron. OK–you make it clear that you don’t believe that this
> testimony is true. Please explain to us WHY you find it unbelievable?
> Nothing in the cited testimony is physically impossible. The acts
> described are well within the realm of possibility, and far worse
> atrocities have been documented, both in the case of war crimes and, for
> that matter, in modern cases of child abuse. What is it that you find
> unbelievable about this particular description of these particular acts?
> Please do not reply with analogies or with examples of other false
> testimony–I want you to identify exactly what makes you find this
> particular description of a murder less than credible.
Such terrible crimes must be proved in a court of law by proper legal process.
This means that witnesses must be cross-examined and even people who confess
must be cross-examined to make sure that they are not mentally disturbed or
playing along.
Apart from that, so much of this testimony appears in the literature in so many
places, like the national anthem in the gas chamber; there are three or four
different versions of the stripping Jewess. Now one of them could be true, but
when one examines the sources they are so unreliable that the best one can say
is that this sort of testimony cannot be assessed.
Are you people so desperate to believe any evil of Hitler and his merry men?
Didn’t Hitler and the Nazis commit enough properly documented crimes that you
have to rely on dross like this?
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Thu Aug 31 22:50:07 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Orest Slepokura” writes:

> The Zionist definition of anti-Semitism, you ask? There’s a revised
> definition provided by Dr. Alfred Lilienthal, a Jewish scholar, in the
> June 1, 1992 issue of New American View, that goes something like this: It
> used to be that an anti-Semite was anyone who hates Jews…but nowadays an
> anti-Semite is anyone whom the Jews hate.
Which is most of us, according to some sources. I am familiar with Dr
Lilienthal’s work but can you give me a source for the Bush is an anti-Semite
quote? I’ve seen it before (Hurley I think). The problem with these thoroughly
evil, contemptible, manipulative people is that they’ve been getting away
with their nonsense and lies for so long that when someone stands up to them
and answers them back they don’t know how to respond.
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Thu Aug 31 22:50:08 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Charles R.L. Power” writes:

> Yeah, we had a similar case of a survivor defrauding other survivors
> at the Federal Correctional Institution where I used to work. Are
> you aiming to shock our naive little souls, Al? What exactly was your
> point posting this message about one Jewish scam artist? Do you find
> him typical of the Israelite race, or what?
This is a documented case of fraud, of an organised clique claiming money as
reparations for people who had allegedly been exterminated. There was another
case in 1969. If this is the tip of a very large iceberg, who knows how many
“exterminations” it may account for?

Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]> ** none ** writes:
The truth Mr. Baron is that the Nazis deliberately killed
> millions of Jews, Gypsies, Slavs, Poles. And a lot of them were
> civilians.
The truth Mr Burstein is that they were credited by Mr Auerbach and company
with killing Jews who had emigrated. I’m not interested in the fact that a few
Jews can’t keep their hands off other people’s money, I’m interested in the
fact that in ripping off the German government a few Jews – and maybe a few
non-Jews – inflated the statistics of those allegedly murdered by the Nazis.
Dig?
Alexander Baron

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:

> My, that’s certainly a seminal work, Al. All of _8_ pages?!!? Whoa!
Zionist lies come in small packages as well as big ones.
Alexander Baron

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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> The fact that Rehavaam Zeevi (who is indeed a rather repulsive
> character) accused Bush of anti-semitism, doesn’t mean that
> this represents the view of most, or any significant part,
> of “Zionists” (I always put the word in quotes, because
> it has been abused to such a degree that it doesn’t have
> a meaning any more). We very often see “anti-Zionists”
> wildly extrapolate from the behavior of a single, or a very
> small group of “Zionists”, to stigmatize all “Zionists”.
Some people say the same about the word anti-Semitism.
This article is a significant climbdown and admission Dr Keren. You are
in agreement with me for once. You claim that some Jews do smear people
as anti-Semites for political reasons. A smear of this nature is a lie.
Furthermore, if anti-Semitism is such a terrible crime, the punishment for
false allegations should be equally terrible.
> People who write that “Jews are dumb”, who use slurs like
> “Jew-boy”, and who spend their life trying to deny Nazi
> atrocities and mocking the victims of Nazism, are
> called antisemites because this is what they are.
This Jews are dumb therefore Baron is an anti-Semite is rather dumb in
itself because most anti-Semites believe and claim that Jews are smart,
sly and clever.
I have never mocked the victims of Nazism and never will; what I have done is
refuse to take at face value the lies and smears of many proven liars, people
who smear as anti-Semites all who refuse to take their claims of
extraordinary suffering at face value.
You can troll through all of my published work and you will not find any
endorsement of the Protocols of Zion, Jewish ritual murder, calumnies on the
Talmud, communism is Jewish or any of the other anti-Semitic crap. All I have
said is that some Jewish individuals and organisations lie through their teeth
for the basest of motives and then scream anti-Semitism when they are caught
with their hands in the till. There is nothing anti-Semitic about that. Especially
as I have documented many of these lies – along with many anti-Jewish lies –
in my work.
With regard to the gas chambers, your position is as follows:
people were deported to Auschwitz and told to line up outside the chamber
where they were to take a bath. They were all ordered – 2,000 at a time – to
strip off, which they did, Rabbis and all, issued with a piece of soap and a toweld
and then marched into this chamber, gassed to death without any meaningful
resistance, the bodies were disposed of in a couple of hours and the
process was begun all over again.
Some people took part in as many as 20 selections; some were sent to the
hospital where they were treated for typhus et al, and then later, when they
were healthy, they were gassed.
I say this story is the biggest load of crap I have ever heard, and on that
basis you brand me an anti-Semite. Fine, I can live with that.
Alexander Baron

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:

> Why do you refuse to answer these two simple questions?
More to the point, why don’t you read what I actually said?
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Marvin Krim” writes:

> Al, it really looks like everyone has your number. You are a true scumbag,
> who LIES and DISTORTS. Get a real life for youself.
What won’t I answer?
Oh I remember you, Marvin feeble-minded geriatric Krim. Now let me see,
it goes something like this with you, doesn’t it: “I know of no Jewish person
who gets drunk, no Jews who beat their wives, no Jews who are involved in
organised crime.” In other words, we’re superior to you goyim. Oh yeah, and
if I remember rightly, the poor Israeli soldiers HAD to shoot young Arab boys
and girls during the intifada because they were a threat to national security.
Hasn’t it ever occurred to you Marvin that as well as applying double standards
and being a Jewish supremacist your humanity ends at the synagogue door?
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: The Dachau Gas Chamber exposed!
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Kathleen Mulhern” writes:

> Thick black smoke emminating from the crematoriams is not a rumor if
> there are pictures of them.
Are you sure the smoke wasn’t painted on? In case you think that is a facetious
remark there are many more blatant fabrications, some of which are admitted.
>Why should we believe you, who has never even been to Dachau
> to see it, and not believe the prisoners who were held there and tortured
> there?
Because these people have an axe to grind and because even though they were
there they are repeating nonsense and hearsay.
> : But the whole point I am trying to make is that THEY DID NOT GAS ANYONE IN
> : DACHAU.
> Yes they did. Ask a survivor.
Better still, find an autopsy report. There is none for the obvious reason.
Alexander Baron

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Kathleen Mulhern” writes:

> Thick black smoke emminating from the crematoriams is not a rumor if
> there are pictures of them.
Are you sure the smoke wasn’t painted on? In case you think that is a facetious
remark there are many more blatant fabrications, some of which are admitted.
>Why should we believe you, who has never even been to Dachau
> to see it, and not believe the prisoners who were held there and tortured
> there?
Because these people have an axe to grind and because even though they were
there they are repeating nonsense and hearsay.
> : But the whole point I am trying to make is that THEY DID NOT GAS ANYONE IN
> : DACHAU.
> Yes they did. Ask a survivor.
Better still, find an autopsy report. There is none for the obvious reason.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Kathleen Mulhern” writes:
> Thick black smoke emminating from the crematoriams is not a rumor if
> there are pictures of them.
Are you sure the smoke wasn’t painted on? In case you think that is a facetious
remark there are many more blatant fabrications, some of which are admitted.
>Why should we believe you, who has never even been to Dachau
> to see it, and not believe the prisoners who were held there and tortured
> there?
Because these people have an axe to grind and because even though they were
there they are repeating nonsense and hearsay.
> : But the whole point I am trying to make is that THEY DID NOT GAS ANYONE IN
> : DACHAU.
> Yes they did. Ask a survivor.
Better still, find an autopsy report. There is none for the obvious reason.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Kathleen Mulhern” writes:
> Thick black smoke emminating from the crematoriams is not a rumor if
> there are pictures of them.
Are you sure the smoke wasn’t painted on? In case you think that is a facetious
remark there are many more blatant fabrications, some of which are admitted.
>Why should we believe you, who has never even been to Dachau
> to see it, and not believe the prisoners who were held there and tortured
> there?
Because these people have an axe to grind and because even though they were
there they are repeating nonsense and hearsay.
> : But the whole point I am trying to make is that THEY DID NOT GAS ANYONE IN
> : DACHAU.
> Yes they did. Ask a survivor.
Better still, find an autopsy report. There is none for the obvious reason.

— Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: A DAY AT AUSCHWITZ WITH DR
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