Baron 4 part 1-2, Baron Al

Brian Thompson writes:
In article <[email protected]>
[email protected]
> How about some more nifty quotes from Hitler?
> “Everything about the behavior of American society reveals that
> it’s half judaized and the other half negrified. How can one expect
> a state like that to hold together?”
> or this pearl of tolerance and wisdom:
> “The Americans ought to be ashamed of themselves for letting
> their medals be won by Negroes.”
> Hitler a rascist? That’s one of the kinder judgments one could make
> about him. How about all around evil bastard and mass-murdering
> lunatic?
> I can’t believe I took the time to even answer such a scary post.
> –Brian
I don’t believe Hitler said any such thing. That sounds just like the sort
of poison spewed out by the pooh bahs in Hollywood and at the New York Times.
which means that it does indeed qualify as racial hatred, to wit, the
unconditional racial hatred of American Zionist Jews who were doing their best
to drag the United States into a war against Germany.
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Roessler Ulrich” writes:
> Do you understand that these conjectures and insinuations without
> evidence are not only insulting? They make transparent that in your
> view lying and deceiving are normal scholarly methods.
That is EXACTLY my view. Obviously you haven’t heard of Piltdown Man,
Summerlin’s mouse, Newton fudging his data, Mendel’s too perfect bean
experiments, Sir Cyril Burt’s twin study, polywater, N-rays, cold fusion,
or the plethora of deceptions in the hard sciences. Hardly an issue of
Nature goes by without somebody being accused of fraud. There are two very
good books BETRAYERS OF THE TRUTH and FALSE PROPHETS which cover this subject;
lies and deception in the social sciences are even more common, or haven’t
you read the declaration of the French historians?
It should be patently obvious to any honest person that even the more honest
exterminationists in this newsgroup – like Mike Stein – are interested first
and foremost in branding all Revisionists liars to discredit them and in
proving that gassings happened rather than conducting any sort of enquiry
into this tragic period and assessing the evidence for and AGAINST the alleged
genocide.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Fri Aug 11 10:27:39 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Baron Gives Page Reference!!!
(was: Believe us anyway. Or else we’ll call you anti-Semitic)
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Harry Mazal,
you are going to be SOOORRRRRRYYYYYY
Silly me not realising this. It really does show how fallible is memory.
Lenski’s book THE HOLOCAUST ON TRIAL refers several times to the 137 page
edition of SIX MILLION DID DIE and even mentions the same pages that I sent
you. Actually, I plead not guilty to plagiarism because I picked this up
c1982.
It also alludes to the Mueller document, which established in 1948 that there
had been no gassings in the Old Reich. So Harry, if you haven’t got access
to the Suzman and Diamond book, you have got access to Lenski’s. Other people
in this group have besides my fellow zero Jefff Roberts.
So once again, Harry, did Suzman and Diamond lie, or did mad Al?
It goes like this: “Yes Mr Baron, they did lie, and I apologise for casting
aspersions on your integrity. I’m not an evil person, just a frightened old
Jew.”
“I accept your apology Harry, like the magnanimous – and totally unbigoted
– goy I am.”
Alexander Baron

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Six Million Did Die
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This is a double posting
Harry Mazal,
you are going to be SOOORRRRRRYYYYYY
Silly me not realising this. It really does show how fallible is memory.
Lenski’s book THE HOLOCAUST ON TRIAL refers several times to the 137 page
edition of SIX MILLION DID DIE and even mentions the same pages that I sent
you. Actually, I plead not guilty to plagiarism because I picked this up
c1982.
It also alludes to the Mueller document, which established in 1948 that there
had been no gassings in the Old Reich. So Harry, if you haven’t got access
to the Suzman and Diamond book, you have got access to Lenski’s. Other people
in this group have besides my fellow zero Jefff Roberts.
So once again, Harry, did Suzman and Diamond lie, or did mad Al?
It goes like this: “Yes Mr Baron, they did lie, and I apologise for casting
aspersions on your integrity. I’m not an evil person, just a frightened old
Jew.”
“I accept your apology Harry, like the magnanimous – and totally unbigoted
– goy I am.”
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Fri Aug 11 10:27:44 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: JEWISH TAX SCAM
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Yale F. Edeiken” writes:
> Let’s face it mother-fucker your thought process went as follows. “A Jew
> said
> it therefore it cannot be true.” It is, clearly the thought process that you
> have
> used in the past and clearly are using now.
No, I said I have studied the ADL etc and know what damned liars they are.
I’ve actually collaborated with two Rabbis on my publications; if you look
in the mirror you’ll see the real reason people hate you, and it has nothing
to do with anti-Semitism. Dig, Mother Fucker?
Paul Findley was a Representative for 22 years; it was only when he started
investigating the truth about the Middle East that the smears against him
started, which is par for the course for the Zionist cabal who have had
such a stranglehold on US foreign policy for so long, a stranglehold that is
at last being broken.
You’re calling me a bigot?
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Julius and Ethel Rosenberg Holocaust Museum
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] writes:
The Julius
> and Ethel Rosenberg U.S. Holocaust Museum is well named, since
> it reflects the character of the Jews of this country.
Not entirely, they were sentenced to death by a Jewish judge, after all.
Alexander Baron

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Adolf Hitler – Racist?
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Adolf Hitler, quoted in “Hitler”, by Joachim Fest, Vintage
> Books Edition, 1974, p. 679-680:
> —————————————————————
> Nature is cruel; therefore we are also entitled to be cruel. When I
> send the flower of German youth into the steel hail of the next war
> without feeling the slightest regret over the precious German blood
> that is being spilled, should I not also have the right to eliminate
> millions of an inferior race that multiplies like vermin?
Edited by David Cohen, published by Moishe Rosenthal, posted by Daniel
Keren.
You’re right, this is racial hatred, pure and simple.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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Subject: Re: Adolf Hitler – Racist?
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> John, I believe it was the second edition of a book that only had one edition.
If you look elsewhere in this newsgroup this twisted reference to SIX MILLION
DID DIE will hit you in the face and make you eat you words, or, as it usually
does with you mischief-makers, make you quietly change the subject without
conceding that once again you have been routed. For the record, this book,
TESTAMENT, had two editions, as did Suzman and Diamond’s lie-ridden piece
of polemical trash.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Al Baron – Mentally Retarded? (Re: Adolf Hitler – Racist?)
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> In message <[email protected]> – [email protected] (Daniel Keren) wri
> tes:
> :>
> :>Baron dug up from somewhere – he doesn’t tell us where – a few
> :>quotes of Hitler praising Japanese (his allies in the war),
> :>and also a quote of a racist Jew.
Once again, I never said that Hitler wasn’t an anti-Semite, I said he wasn’t
a racist – whatever is meant by that vacuous word. If I hate Irishmen I am
not a racist, I am simply anti-Irish. Dig?
As for ONE racist Jew, since so many Jews – especially in this newsgroup,
seem to believe that anyone who ever disagrees with them is a raving anti-Semite,
I would say that this obvious sense of racial superiority is evidence of quite
a few more racist Jews.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Schwarzhuber Testifies About Gassing in Ravensbrueck
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> ## THE MUELLER DOCUMENT
> # Also known as “Lachout”-document, and exposed as fabrication
> # immediately following its publication in an Austrian
> # Neu-Nazi journal in 1987. (See below).
I’d like some more information on this. Have you got an English language
source? Lipstadt certainly doesn’t mention it, and I wonder why not.
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: 1) CONFESSIONS EXORTED BY TORTURE
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> Which is to say that “revisionists” will make use of unauthenticated
> documentary evidence but will ignore masses of authentic documents
> as it suits their purposes.
THIS REVISIONIST will not make use of any fake and will ALWAYS admit it
any time he has been conned. Unlike ALL Exterminationists.
Can you give me a printed reference for this. In English? Thanks.
Alexander Baron

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Acceptable proof
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Does this mean that we must have a movie of every historical
> event, in order to prove it really happened?
> What about the crusades? The civil war? Stalin’s atrocities?
There’s a big difference. Stalin isn’t supposed to have ordered people
to strip off 2,000 at a time, including pious Jews, some of whom won’t even
look at a naked woman, and then march into a “gas chamber” with a towel and
a bar of soap, men, women and children. Stalin realised that the easiest,
cheapest and most efficient way to commit genocide was to shoot people en
masse through the back of the neck. I’d be very interested to see
these stills. Heck, you might even make a convert. Stranger things have
happened.
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: More nonsense – anti-Japanese hate propaganda
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The Times, August 12, 1995, page 2 reports that during World War Two
Japanese atrocities in the Philippines included throwing babies into the air
and impailing them on bayonets. Has anyone any documentation on this?
It claims also that the Japanese did not recognise the Geneva Convention because
they had not signed it and therefore often executed prisoners of war who
tried to escape “despite protests that it was part of a British
serviceman’s duty to attempt to do so.”
It never ceases to amaze me that the politically correct pricks of the
“anti-racist” lobby never attack the demonising of these slant-eyed
inscritible Orientals.
A) does anyone believe the baby bayoneting nonsense?
B) does anyone credit this crap about shooting escapees? Okay, so they were
shot. So what? This is war, man, not a game of snakes and ladders. There are
no rules.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: A DAY AT AUSCHWITZ WITH DR
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Barry Shein” writes:
> You can’t compare singular scientific reports, often with virtually no
> witnesses and only reporting events occurring in some lab, and 50
> years of the study of history and the thousands of pieces of evidence
> the Holocaust rests on; an event that personally affected millions of
> people many of whom are still alive.
The plethora of lies about the Holocaust has not only been documented but
has been documented by Court Historians, whose reaction is simply, yes, this
is inaccurate etc, then turn the other way. Some of them have even gone so far
as to endorse such lies for the consumption of the lay public, see for example
the Anti Nazi League’s 1993 pamphlet HOLOCAUST DENIAL – THE NEW NAZI LIE – which
is a tissue of lies from beginning to end yet is endorsed by David Cesarani
and the sap Martin Gilbert – the latter of whose gullibility was even condemned
by Gitta Sereny.
> By that reasoning I couldn’t claim with certainty that World War Two
> occurred at all.
A ridiculous hyperbolae and another straw man.
> There are mountains of books in the libraries providing guides through
> the primary evidence, and the primary evidence itself.
Ditto the mountains of books about flying saucers. Not for the first time
you are confusing quantity with quality. Wilfully I suspect.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Questioning the “six million”
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Al Baron, “Holocaust revisionist”, calls a Jew who
> corresponded with him “Jew boy”, and wrote that
> Jews are dumb.
You condemn other Revisionists for claiming Jews are so damned smart they
have virtually taken over the world, now you attack me for claiming they’re
dumb. Be consistent.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Adolf Hitler – Racist?
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[email protected] “Barry Shein” writes:
> Someone want to go over the Jesse Owens story again?
The Jesse Owen story is a damned lie and I’ve done the research on this.
The story was started by the Jewish-owned New York Times, hence my point
about racial hatred. Hitler wasn’t accused in the first instance of insulting
Owens but another black athlete. At first Owens denied it but later realised
to go along with this piece of anti-German hate endorsed his lecture circuit
value. Incidentally, when Owens returned home he was sent in a segregated parade
through Harlem which was booed and hissed by the locals. His parents were also
snubbed at a hotel. Owens rightly condemned the Nazi attitude towards the Jews
but spoke favourably of Hitler and the Nazi treatment of the “Race Athletes”.
What was that about the Revisionists being liars?
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Frank Forman” writes:
> My server has evidently not delivered all the
> postings on this thread, but it seems to me
> that we need agreement on the meaning of
> “racist.” In the last quote from Hitler,
> he says he is free of racial hatred but that
> he is opposed to racial intermarriage. I
> take this to mean that he thinks man’s
> divisions into races is a splendid thing. So
> this makes him pro-race. On this account,
> someone who wanted to exterminate all races
> but one would not be a racist, as would someone
> who wanted to make the world into one race by
> repeated race-mixing.
> You may be confusing racism with a belief in
> the superiority of one particular race. That is
> quite compatible with wanting other races on
> the globe.
The original meaning of the word racist (also the now more or less defunct
racialist) was a belief in innate racial differences, often with a belief
in the superiority of (not always and only) the white race over others.
I find nothing the slightest bit hateful in this. By this definition
Abraham Lincoln – the great emancipator – was a racist. As far as I know he
didn’t engage in cross burnings of lynchings.
> Question for you: why is “the present enemy the
> white racists and nationalists”?
The whole concept of racism is something that has been hijacked by socialists
and fellow travellers; this is something that is well documented. These people
portray themselves as the friend of the Black Man. In reality they are rats.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> Number 1 Al: I challenge you to give the chapter reference for that quote,
> which appears nowhere as you have quoted it in Mein Kampf. Hitler’s
> annoyance was not with the slights of the Vienna press against Jews, but
> rather against the fact that, as *he* saw it, they did not use scientific
> “proof” in slighting Jews.
Oh yes it does. This is from page 39 of the James Murphy translation; the only
one approved by the author. I can’t remember offhand but I think Hitler once
sued somebody in the United States over a bootleg edition.
> [If you cut even cautiously into such an abcess, you found, like a maggot in
> a rotting body, often dazzled by the sudden light–a kike.]
I haven’t seen this edition and don’t read German anyway. In the first place,
is it official? In the 2nd place, I must stress again what I actually said.
Hitler did not become anti-Jewish until he moved to Vienna. I do not condone
Hitler’s anti-Semitism, I am simply making an historical point, ie that at one
time he said he had been fairly pro-Jewish. There’s nothing at all controversial
about that. Mussolini was once a socialist.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 13 17:00:06 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: More nonsense – anti-Japanese hate propaganda
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Charles R.L. Power” writes:
> Might help if you would specify which Times you’re talking about. There
> are dozens of newspapers with that title.
THE Times. The one published in London.
> >A) does anyone believe the baby bayoneting nonsense?
> Could you tell us why you consider it nonsense? Japanese soldiers
> committed quite a few atrocities during WW2. Murdering “enemy” babies
> would hardly be unique in the history of so-called humanity–I could give
> you a few Bible cites on the practice (encouraging it!). As to the story
> at hand, it sounds a bit like a wartime fantasy, but knowing some of the
> things the Japanese soldiers did do during WW2, I wouldn’t consider it
> “nonsense”, and I don’t see why you do. Might be true, might not, and my
> opinion of Japanese soldiers during WW2 wouldn’t be substantially changed
> one way or the other.
The wicked Hun were accused of this in World War One. The point I wanted to
make was has it be verfied? You appear to believe not.
> >B) does anyone credit this crap about shooting escapees? Okay, so they were
> >shot. So what?
> First you seem to say that we shouldn’t believe it, then that you do
> believe it. Which is it? And to repeat your question, so what? I believe
> a quarter of POWs taken by Japanese were killed one way or another, so
> their shooting those attempting to escape is no big whoop.
No, that was badly phrased and I apologise: what I meant was, so what?
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
TESTAMENT OF ADOLF HITLER The Hitler-Bormann Documents
February-April 1945, Edited by Francois Genoud, Translated
>from the German by Colonel R.H. Stevens,
Introduction by H.R. Trevor-Roper,
published by Icon Books, London, (1962).
There is also a 1961 edition.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 13 17:00:15 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Barry Shein” writes:
> No Baron, you can’t get away with just stating this axiomatically as
> if it were some sort of established fact.
It is a fact that even Exterminationist historians admit, although as
David Cole points out their method of admission goes something like this:
Yes, Martin Gray’s book is a ghost written fraud and the Revisionists are
liars.
Yes, Martin Gilbert was tricked by a con man and wrote up his nonsense
as an eyewitness account, and the Revisionists are liars, etc
> The Holocaust occurred as is generally believed.
> No doubt, as with any huge and complex history, there are some
> falsehoods here and there.
> *THAT* you think is a ridiculous hyperbola and a straw man? But you
> are happy to believe the Nazis did not commit mass murder against
> civilians in their camps given all the evidence?
My dear fellow, I have NEVER denied the fact that SOME Nazis committed
mass murder. What I do deny is that there is proof of anything more than
– quite appalling – war time atrocities.
> >Ditto the mountains of books about flying saucers. Not for the first time
> >you are confusing quantity with quality. Wilfully I suspect.
> And if there were no quantity of evidence I’m sure you’d leave that
> fact alone?
> Not bloody likely.
> The quality, and the quantity, are just fine.
The quality is not fine, the best witnesses, Vrba for example – see earlier
posting, as every bit as credible as flying saucer buffs.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 13 17:00:19 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Michael P. Stein” writes:
> Actually, Al, I’ve gone to great lengths NOT to call you a liar –
> confused, ignorant, illogical, yes, but I don’t think you’ll be able to
> pull out any text where I call you a liar except when prefaced by a
> phrase like “by the same reasoning you use to call X a liar” – meant
> clearly not to call you a liar but to show that your argument is invalid.
> I would love to assess the evidence against the alleged genocide.
> I’ve only been asking you for some for how long has it been? So far what
> I get is fog, mush, and “because I say so.” Specifics and evidence are
> long past due.
Mike, I appreciate that, and even if you do call me a liar I believe that you
are an honest man. Your memory though is obviously every bit as poor as mine
because I’ve given you a lot of evidence of duplicity and lies such as my
analysis of Hart, the admissions over the fakery of the naked women photo,
the misrepresentation of Dachau as a gassing centre, the War Refugee Board
Report and lots more.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 13 17:00:22 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Michael P. Stein” writes:
> >As stated, it’s not that all these documents are forgeries, they
> >simply don’t prove what you and others claim they prove.
> Let’s see, “Vergasungskeller” does not mean “gassing cellar?” OK,
> what does it mean?
> Letters discussing the gas vans – even if genuine these do not prove
> gassing?
We hear so much about these gas vans, but has anyone actually seen one?
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 13 17:00:25 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Roessler Ulrich” writes:
> Alexander Baron <[email protected]> writes:
> Who has admitted what about the WRB-report? Please, explain and provide
> your evidence.
American journalists at the time. Staeglich and Butz have punched holes in it,
much that is in it contradicts Vrba’s later testimony. Pressac does an
analysis of it and finds in wanting, finally, Vrba himself is an admitted
liar. You are referred specifically to Michael Hoffman’s book THE GREAT
HOLOCAUST TRIAL and to the videos – of Canadian TV coverage of the trial –
which were churned out by Zundel at the time. There are also one or two reports
in the Canadian press.
Oh yes, and after the trial, a Candian Jewish group admitted that in spite of
Zundel’s conviction they would much rather the trial had not taken place.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Michael P. Stein” writes:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Alexander Baron <[email protected]> wrote:
> >The barber in the gas chamber and everything?
> Suchomel was not the barber in the gas chamber. He was an SS guard.
> What I am suggesting is that at the very least, Suchomel is to be taken
> seriously.
> You are running away from Suchomel as fast as you can, Al. Do you
> think people don’t notice this?
I’m not running away from it at all, Mike. I watched about half an hour
of SHOAH and I don’t think that sort of thing is meant to be taken seriously.
> You keep trying to change the subject to evade the question of why
> Suchomel, with no Soviet torturer and no German prosecutor standing over
> him, agreed to talk to private citizen Lanzmann. Recorded by a secret
> camera, he repeated his confession under circumstances which make it
> impossible to explain away by the usual revisionist claim of torture and
> coercion.
To what extent was this testimony uncoerced and without motive? Just because
somebody makes a confession doesn’t mean it is true, Mike.
Sylvie de la Plaine confessed to having intercourse with the Devil. She said
that his semen was cold. Rabbi Jossel confessed to ritual murder without
torture. So what?
People have made far more prosaic confessions. Henry Lucas – the Highway
Fiend – confessed to about 200 murders, yet it was proved that he couldn’t
have committed about a dozen of them and he may not have killed anyone.
I have pointed out to you before that much as I enjoy our banter
I do subscribe to other newsgroups, and have other things to do. I simply
cannot spend 3 or 4 hours a day replying to queries, and indeed my time
is shrinking at the moment, though I will continue to do my best.
Finally Mike, have you so soon forgotten our latest joust from private mail?
> Vrba lied about having seen the events with his own eyes. Yet this
> does not, by itself, prove that the events did not happen. Yes, he may
> have made it up out of whole cloth. But he may have sincerely believed
> that the events happened, and lied about seeing them simply to avoid
> having the report ignored as hearsay.
Vrba lied because he sincerely believed. Therefore what he said is true!
Oh boy!
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> I guess it is too transparent a fabrication so most
> revisionazis avoid it. You see it happening all the time.
> They try something, it is exposed, and they switch to
> something else.
You took the words right out of my mouth, eg Harry Mazal’s continued ducking
of the lies of Suzman and Diamond. I would appreciate more documentation on this
though because unlike you my mind is not closed. In my book REVISING THE
REVISIONISTS I have documented David Irving’s perjury at the Zundel trial
as well as his sexual habits.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Joel Rosenberg” writes:
> As to the ADL, I understand why bozos like yourself find it inconvenient.
> Fine by me.
I don’t object, they have as much right to keep files on people as anyone
else. BUT, if you spy on people and smear them as anti-Semitic ad nauseum
at every opportunity, and if you fabricate smears against them, you have
no one but yourself to blame if they hate you.
Furthermore, by their actions, the ADL and similar organisations bring the
Jewish people as a whole into hatred and contempt.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 13 17:00:38 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Roessler Ulrich” writes:

> I apologize for the mis-information.
Your apology is accepted. How though do you explain the stories of
people who claimed there were gassings in Buchenwald? Rassinier
did much work on this.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Barry Shein” writes:
> Although one’s personal “bullshit meter”, which it seems is what
> you’re referring to here, has some value it’s hardly definitive. It’s
> not like it’s inconceivable to ask a bunch of people to strip down and
> go into a “shower”, it hardly violates some law of physics or some
> such thing. You’ve not made your point at all.
To me it is all but inconceivable that 2,000 people, including rabbis,
would strip off and march into a shower as described. This is a piece of
surrealistic fantasy.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> You’re backpedaling, Al. You were quite unequivocal in stating that
> Hitler was not a racist. Not “at one time.” Unless of course you are
> still maintaining that antisemitism does not fall under the common
> definition of racism.
I thought everbody knew that. To hear some Jewish organisations go on
you’d think anti-Semitism was the ultimate evil. There are many forms
of anti-Semitism, believing that the Jews control the media, instead of
just Hollywood, the New York Times and the Washington Post; believing that
they control the banks – ie failing to realise that the Rothschilds, the
Seligmans, the Kuhns and the Loebs were really Gentiles; believing communism
to be Jewish etc in spite of the fact that Karl Marx, Trotsky, Bela Kun,
Gus Hall, the Rosenbergs et al were not Jews.
“Racism” is generally associated with the belief that race exists and that some
races are superior to others, whatever superior means in this context. Obviously
most anti-Semites don’t believe Jews are inferior in that sense, so anti-
Semitism is not racism.
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> Alexander Baron <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Oh yes it does. This is from page 39 of the James Murphy translation; the only
> >one approved by the author.
That is what the publishers claim. Historical Review Press. I bought it from
them donkeys years ago. They are Britain’s leading anti-Semitic distributor
so should know. Of course they could be lying but I think it’s most unlikely
in this case.
Alexander Baron

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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> # Or is he an arrogant and obnoxious Jew
> Here’s just what I was talking about. Just look at this
> schmuck. He’s preaching politeness and open-mindness, and
> a few lines later he attacks me because I’m a Jew…
He’s not attacking you because you are a Jew, he’s attacking you because
you are an arrogant and obnoxious Jew. Which is my opinion also. If you
insist on denouncing people as scum simply because they refuse to take
at face value every claim every Jew has ever made about the Holocaust just
because he is a Jew, you can’t really object when you get a dose of your own
medicine. Political and personal epithets are every bit as hurtful as
racial ones, but just for the record: Sticks and stones…
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Charles R.L. Power” writes:
> This would appear to be fairly explicit. On what basis do revisionists
> want us to believe that Smith’s claims are inauthentic? Has Fred Leuchter
> visited Dachau and given his expert opinion on that site as well?
It’s very explicit. It’s also wrong. I would suggest you contact Israel
Gutman and announce that you have made this remarkable discovery. There
are also photographs of Dachau gas chambers. They too are hoaxes to deceive
the credulous and the gullible, which at one time included most of the American
public.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Frank Forman” writes:
> My server has evidently not delivered all the
> postings on this thread, but it seems to me
> that we need agreement on the meaning of
> “racist.” In the last quote from Hitler,
> he says he is free of racial hatred but that
> he is opposed to racial intermarriage. I
> take this to mean that he thinks man’s
> divisions into races is a splendid thing. So
> this makes him pro-race. On this account,
> someone who wanted to exterminate all races
> but one would not be a racist, as would someone
> who wanted to make the world into one race by
> repeated race-mixing.
> You may be confusing racism with a belief in
> the superiority of one particular race. That is
> quite compatible with wanting other races on
> the globe.
The original meaning of the word racist (also the now more or less defunct
racialist) was a belief in innate racial differences, often with a belief
in the superiority of (not always and only) the white race over others.
I find nothing the slightest bit hateful in this. By this definition
Abraham Lincoln – the great emancipator – was a racist. As far as I know he
didn’t engage in cross burnings of lynchings.
> Question for you: why is “the present enemy the
> white racists and nationalists”?
The whole concept of racism is something that has been hijacked by socialists
and fellow travellers; this is something that is well documented. These people
portray themselves as the friend of the Black Man. In reality they are rats.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> Number 1 Al: I challenge you to give the chapter reference for that quote,
> which appears nowhere as you have quoted it in Mein Kampf. Hitler’s
> annoyance was not with the slights of the Vienna press against Jews, but
> rather against the fact that, as *he* saw it, they did not use scientific
> “proof” in slighting Jews.
Oh yes it does. This is from page 39 of the James Murphy translation; the only
one approved by the author. I can’t remember offhand but I think Hitler once
sued somebody in the United States over a bootleg edition.
> [If you cut even cautiously into such an abcess, you found, like a maggot in
> a rotting body, often dazzled by the sudden light–a kike.]
I haven’t seen this edition and don’t read German anyway. In the first place,
is it official? In the 2nd place, I must stress again what I actually said.
Hitler did not become anti-Jewish until he moved to Vienna. I do not condone
Hitler’s anti-Semitism, I am simply making an historical point, ie that at one
time he said he had been fairly pro-Jewish. There’s nothing at all controversial
about that. Mussolini was once a socialist.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Charles R.L. Power” writes:
> Might help if you would specify which Times you’re talking about. There
> are dozens of newspapers with that title.
THE Times. The one published in London.
> >A) does anyone believe the baby bayoneting nonsense?
> Could you tell us why you consider it nonsense? Japanese soldiers
> committed quite a few atrocities during WW2. Murdering “enemy” babies
> would hardly be unique in the history of so-called humanity–I could give
> you a few Bible cites on the practice (encouraging it!). As to the story
> at hand, it sounds a bit like a wartime fantasy, but knowing some of the
> things the Japanese soldiers did do during WW2, I wouldn’t consider it
> “nonsense”, and I don’t see why you do. Might be true, might not, and my
> opinion of Japanese soldiers during WW2 wouldn’t be substantially changed
> one way or the other.
The wicked Hun were accused of this in World War One. The point I wanted to
make was has it be verfied? You appear to believe not.
> >B) does anyone credit this crap about shooting escapees? Okay, so they were
> >shot. So what?
> First you seem to say that we shouldn’t believe it, then that you do
> believe it. Which is it? And to repeat your question, so what? I believe
> a quarter of POWs taken by Japanese were killed one way or another, so
> their shooting those attempting to escape is no big whoop.
No, that was badly phrased and I apologise: what I meant was, so what?
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:

TESTAMENT OF ADOLF HITLER The Hitler-Bormann Documents
February-April 1945, Edited by Francois Genoud, Translated
>from the German by Colonel R.H. Stevens,
Introduction by H.R. Trevor-Roper,
published by Icon Books, London, (1962).
There is also a 1961 edition.
Alexander Baron

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Barry Shein” writes:
> No Baron, you can’t get away with just stating this axiomatically as
> if it were some sort of established fact.
It is a fact that even Exterminationist historians admit, although as
David Cole points out their method of admission goes something like this:
Yes, Martin Gray’s book is a ghost written fraud and the Revisionists are
liars.
Yes, Martin Gilbert was tricked by a con man and wrote up his nonsense
as an eyewitness account, and the Revisionists are liars, etc
> The Holocaust occurred as is generally believed.
> No doubt, as with any huge and complex history, there are some
> falsehoods here and there.
> *THAT* you think is a ridiculous hyperbola and a straw man? But you
> are happy to believe the Nazis did not commit mass murder against
> civilians in their camps given all the evidence?
My dear fellow, I have NEVER denied the fact that SOME Nazis committed
mass murder. What I do deny is that there is proof of anything more than
– quite appalling – war time atrocities.
> >Ditto the mountains of books about flying saucers. Not for the first time
> >you are confusing quantity with quality. Wilfully I suspect.
> And if there were no quantity of evidence I’m sure you’d leave that
> fact alone?
> Not bloody likely.
> The quality, and the quantity, are just fine.
The quality is not fine, the best witnesses, Vrba for example – see earlier
posting, as every bit as credible as flying saucer buffs.
Alexander Baron

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Michael P. Stein” writes:
> Actually, Al, I’ve gone to great lengths NOT to call you a liar –
> confused, ignorant, illogical, yes, but I don’t think you’ll be able to
> pull out any text where I call you a liar except when prefaced by a
> phrase like “by the same reasoning you use to call X a liar” – meant
> clearly not to call you a liar but to show that your argument is invalid.
> I would love to assess the evidence against the alleged genocide.
> I’ve only been asking you for some for how long has it been? So far what
> I get is fog, mush, and “because I say so.” Specifics and evidence are
> long past due.
Mike, I appreciate that, and even if you do call me a liar I believe that you
are an honest man. Your memory though is obviously every bit as poor as mine
because I’ve given you a lot of evidence of duplicity and lies such as my
analysis of Hart, the admissions over the fakery of the naked women photo,
the misrepresentation of Dachau as a gassing centre, the War Refugee Board
Report and lots more.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Michael P. Stein” writes:
> >As stated, it’s not that all these documents are forgeries, they
> >simply don’t prove what you and others claim they prove.
> Let’s see, “Vergasungskeller” does not mean “gassing cellar?” OK,
> what does it mean?
> Letters discussing the gas vans – even if genuine these do not prove
> gassing?
We hear so much about these gas vans, but has anyone actually seen one?
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Roessler Ulrich” writes:
> Alexander Baron <[email protected]> writes:
> Who has admitted what about the WRB-report? Please, explain and provide
> your evidence.
American journalists at the time. Staeglich and Butz have punched holes in it,
much that is in it contradicts Vrba’s later testimony. Pressac does an
analysis of it and finds in wanting, finally, Vrba himself is an admitted
liar. You are referred specifically to Michael Hoffman’s book THE GREAT
HOLOCAUST TRIAL and to the videos – of Canadian TV coverage of the trial –
which were churned out by Zundel at the time. There are also one or two reports
in the Canadian press.
Oh yes, and after the trial, a Candian Jewish group admitted that in spite of
Zundel’s conviction they would much rather the trial had not taken place.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Michael P. Stein” writes:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Alexander Baron <[email protected]> wrote:
> >The barber in the gas chamber and everything?
> Suchomel was not the barber in the gas chamber. He was an SS guard.
> What I am suggesting is that at the very least, Suchomel is to be taken
> seriously.
> You are running away from Suchomel as fast as you can, Al. Do you
> think people don’t notice this?
I’m not running away from it at all, Mike. I watched about half an hour
of SHOAH and I don’t think that sort of thing is meant to be taken seriously.
> You keep trying to change the subject to evade the question of why
> Suchomel, with no Soviet torturer and no German prosecutor standing over
> him, agreed to talk to private citizen Lanzmann. Recorded by a secret
> camera, he repeated his confession under circumstances which make it
> impossible to explain away by the usual revisionist claim of torture and
> coercion.
To what extent was this testimony uncoerced and without motive? Just because
somebody makes a confession doesn’t mean it is true, Mike.
Sylvie de la Plaine confessed to having intercourse with the Devil. She said
that his semen was cold. Rabbi Jossel confessed to ritual murder without
torture. So what?
People have made far more prosaic confessions. Henry Lucas – the Highway
Fiend – confessed to about 200 murders, yet it was proved that he couldn’t
have committed about a dozen of them and he may not have killed anyone.
I have pointed out to you before that much as I enjoy our banter
I do subscribe to other newsgroups, and have other things to do. I simply
cannot spend 3 or 4 hours a day replying to queries, and indeed my time
is shrinking at the moment, though I will continue to do my best.
Finally Mike, have you so soon forgotten our latest joust from private mail?
> Vrba lied about having seen the events with his own eyes. Yet this
> does not, by itself, prove that the events did not happen. Yes, he may
> have made it up out of whole cloth. But he may have sincerely believed
> that the events happened, and lied about seeing them simply to avoid
> having the report ignored as hearsay.
Vrba lied because he sincerely believed. Therefore what he said is true!
Oh boy!
Alexander Baron

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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> I guess it is too transparent a fabrication so most
> revisionazis avoid it. You see it happening all the time.
> They try something, it is exposed, and they switch to
> something else.
You took the words right out of my mouth, eg Harry Mazal’s continued ducking
of the lies of Suzman and Diamond. I would appreciate more documentation on this
though because unlike you my mind is not closed. In my book REVISING THE
REVISIONISTS I have documented David Irving’s perjury at the Zundel trial
as well as his sexual habits.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Joel Rosenberg” writes:
> As to the ADL, I understand why bozos like yourself find it inconvenient.
> Fine by me.
I don’t object, they have as much right to keep files on people as anyone
else. BUT, if you spy on people and smear them as anti-Semitic ad nauseum
at every opportunity, and if you fabricate smears against them, you have
no one but yourself to blame if they hate you.
Furthermore, by their actions, the ADL and similar organisations bring the
Jewish people as a whole into hatred and contempt.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Roessler Ulrich” writes:
> I apologize for the mis-information.
Your apology is accepted. How though do you explain the stories of
people who claimed there were gassings in Buchenwald? Rassinier
did much work on this.
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 13 19:21:08 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Barry Shein” writes:
> Although one’s personal “bullshit meter”, which it seems is what
> you’re referring to here, has some value it’s hardly definitive. It’s
> not like it’s inconceivable to ask a bunch of people to strip down and
> go into a “shower”, it hardly violates some law of physics or some
> such thing. You’ve not made your point at all.
To me it is all but inconceivable that 2,000 people, including rabbis,
would strip off and march into a shower as described. This is a piece of
surrealistic fantasy.
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Sun Aug 13 19:21:57 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> You’re backpedaling, Al. You were quite unequivocal in stating that
> Hitler was not a racist. Not “at one time.” Unless of course you are
> still maintaining that antisemitism does not fall under the common
> definition of racism.
I thought everbody knew that. To hear some Jewish organisations go on
you’d think anti-Semitism was the ultimate evil. There are many forms
of anti-Semitism, believing that the Jews control the media, instead of
just Hollywood, the New York Times and the Washington Post; believing that
they control the banks – ie failing to realise that the Rothschilds, the
Seligmans, the Kuhns and the Loebs were really Gentiles; believing communism
to be Jewish etc in spite of the fact that Karl Marx, Trotsky, Bela Kun,
Gus Hall, the Rosenbergs et al were not Jews.
“Racism” is generally associated with the belief that race exists and that some
races are superior to others, whatever superior means in this context. Obviously
most anti-Semites don’t believe Jews are inferior in that sense, so anti-
Semitism is not racism.
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> Alexander Baron <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Oh yes it does. This is from page 39 of the James Murphy translation; the only
> >one approved by the author.
That is what the publishers claim. Historical Review Press. I bought it from
them donkeys years ago. They are Britain’s leading anti-Semitic distributor
so should know. Of course they could be lying but I think it’s most unlikely
in this case.
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> # Or is he an arrogant and obnoxious Jew
> Here’s just what I was talking about. Just look at this
> schmuck. He’s preaching politeness and open-mindness, and
> a few lines later he attacks me because I’m a Jew…
He’s not attacking you because you are a Jew, he’s attacking you because
you are an arrogant and obnoxious Jew. Which is my opinion also. If you
insist on denouncing people as scum simply because they refuse to take
at face value every claim every Jew has ever made about the Holocaust just
because he is a Jew, you can’t really object when you get a dose of your own
medicine. Political and personal epithets are every bit as hurtful as
racial ones, but just for the record: Sticks and stones…
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Charles R.L. Power” writes:
> This would appear to be fairly explicit. On what basis do revisionists
> want us to believe that Smith’s claims are inauthentic? Has Fred Leuchter
> visited Dachau and given his expert opinion on that site as well?
It’s very explicit. It’s also wrong. I would suggest you contact Israel
Gutman and announce that you have made this remarkable discovery. There
are also photographs of Dachau gas chambers. They too are hoaxes to deceive
the credulous and the gullible, which at one time included most of the American
public.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “snopes” writes:
> _They Never Said It_, Paul F. Boller, Jr. and John George, 1989.
I’ve read this book; it’s very good.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Tue Aug 15 14:01:01 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Barry Shein” writes:
> And if I called you a “lying and perfidious limey” your reaction
> wouldn’t be that this is uncalled for? What if the comment came from
> an Irish nationalist?
> You can’t be this dense, Mr Baron.
I wouldn’t take the slightest offence. Even coming from a damn Yankee.
Alexander Baron

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From [email protected] Tue Aug 15 14:01:04 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Barry Shein” writes:
> Why do revisionists like to focus so much on the weakest evidence
> while assiduously ignoring the strongest?
You mean there is strong evidence? Vrba’s testimony was considered the
BEST until it was discredited.
> If ten people claimed they saw OJ Simpson murder his alleged victims
> and only two could have possibly been at the scene why would you spend
> all your time with the other eight? You’d simply dismiss them and
> focus on the two who likely were there.
If ten people said they say a dead man come to life, would you believe
any of them? Try reading Hume’s OF MIRACLES. Much eyewitness testimony
falls into that category, or near enough.
Ironically, a while ago somebody in this newsgroup told me that “historians
don’t work like that”, ie they don’t examine the best testimonies.
> Just a few messages ago you asserted without the slightest bit of
> evidence or inkling as to what was on your mind that you simply
> believed that eyewitness account by a US Army physician who was
> present at Dachau at its liberation was simply false (the word you
> used was “hoax”.) Why? You didn’t say, you simply asked everyone to
> believe you that you knew better.
The Dachau hoax is thoroughly documented; the fact that you are still
haggling about it rather than concede that you’ve lost this one shows
how desperate you are. See my new posting and appeal to Harry Mazal.
Alexander Baron

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Michael P. Stein” writes:
> This is _not_ evidence. I would much rather the trial had not taken
> place as well. However, I object on free speech grounds.
Read the analyses by Butz, Staeglich and Pressac. Compare the Auschwitz
story as told now with this report and Vrba’s book. The WRB report is
not worth the paper it’s printed on.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Tue Aug 15 14:01:11 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Michael P. Stein” writes:
> >> You keep trying to change the subject to evade the question of why
> >> Suchomel, with no Soviet torturer and no German prosecutor standing over
> >> him, agreed to talk to private citizen Lanzmann. Recorded by a secret
> >> camera, he repeated his confession under circumstances which make it
> >> impossible to explain away by the usual revisionist claim of torture and
> >> coercion.
When I’ve studied it I’ll get back to you but I’m not going to comment on
something like that without studying it.
> >To what extent was this testimony uncoerced and without motive?
I don’t know. Pass.
> Yet despite your libel of me as primarily interested in branding all
> revisionists liars, I stand willing to address seriously any real
> evidence you care to offer. The problem is, you don’t offer serious
> evidence – you offer fog and mush instead of specifics.
I have not libelled you; you’re one of the few people in this group I’ve
got time for.
> By the way, if any confession might be false, why do you believe
> without question Vrba’s confession that he lied? Your intellectual
> inconsistency is showing again. Testimonies you don’t like are dismissed
> without rebuttal evidence, but testimonies you like are accepted without
> the same reservation.
Try reading what Vrba had to say. He admitted he lied under cross examination
when it was PROVED that he had lied.
> >> Vrba lied about having seen the events with his own eyes. Yet this
> >> does not, by itself, prove that the events did not happen. Yes, he may
> >> have made it up out of whole cloth. But he may have sincerely believed
> >> that the events happened, and lied about seeing them simply to avoid
> >> having the report ignored as hearsay.
> Now, Al, your misinterpretation – which I admitted might well have
> been my fault – was explained to you in a prior email. Yet you publicly
> posted that same misinterpretation AFTER it should have been cleared up.
> Could you please explain how that happened?
It certainly was your fault, and is. Read that paragraph again. Vrba lied. He
didn’t see this event, period. But he believed it happened and reported it
as if he had seen it. Ie he lied.
Incidentally, I did take a look at Sereny’s book INTO THAT DARKNESS. Surprisingly
few references to the gas chambers in that, I thought. Or were they steam chambers??
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Tue Aug 15 14:01:14 PDT 1995
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Coming from a low-life scum like Baron, this is hardly
> an insult.
Baron = scum. Fine.
> One only needs to read Baron’s “there was nothing racist
> about Nazism” and “Jews are dumb” statements to see
> who we’re dealing with here. As for his sanity, check
> out the claim that Holocaust witnesses cannon be trusted
> because some lady named Sylvie De la Paine said she
> had intercourse with the Devil, which “implies” that
> we cannot trust any eyewitness… seek help, Baron,
> you’re crazy.
That was an analogy; I would have thought someone with a degree in
computer sciences would have known that.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Roessler Ulrich” writes:
> On a more general line, in my notice, I alluded to the gassings of
> mentally retarded and insane persons, and the selections of inmates
> unfit for work in the KZs during the so-called ’14f13′-action.
> This is a possible answer for the ‘stories’. And this is,
> why I am interested in this connection. The gassings during
> the “Euthanasia” action were widely known in Germany.
Yes, this does appear to be true, although I think the scale has been
greatly exaggerated.
> I should remind you, however, that there are a lot of older questions
> in several threads here, which should be answered, before some
> new subjects may be addressed:
I’m sorry but I don’t have as much time as you.
> Could you simply start to answer the questions about the
> Wannsee-conference, and the protocoll? If need is I’ll repost them.
Repost them.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Abaron, aknave, afool
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Joel Rosenberg” writes:
> >Furthermore, by their actions, the ADL and similar organisations bring the
> >Jewish people as a whole into hatred and contempt.
> Ah. The old “the jews are responsible for anti-semitism” crap. Can’t you at
> least be original in your jewhating?
If you really believe that the likes of Daniel Keren who go around branding
people scum simply because they question the holy writ of the Holocaust,
and the likes of the JDL who attack people or who firebomb their
premises, or the Mossad who have murdered innocent people on neutral soil,
if you believe that Jewish organisations that smear people left, right and
centre as anti-Semitic for condeming human rights abuses in Israel, if you
believe all these people and more do not bring hatred onto their own race,
then you really should see a shrink.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Tue Aug 15 14:31:10 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Acceptable proof
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Barry Shein” writes:
> I know, there’s this amazing and completely hermetically sealed
> conspiracy that makes such a statement, even one, impossible to exist.
You people love that word conspiracy. Again, I have never used that word,
nor have I ever attempted to authenticate the Protocols of Zion.
Nice try though.
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Wed Aug 16 17:19:21 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: More Errors of Omission
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Sara aka Perrrfect” writes:
> Waht a scumbag.
> And yes, Mr. Weyl is probably right. When Jews went south to help the
> integration movement, they probably pissed a lot of racists off by wanting
> to help black obtain equality. That would increase anti-Semitism, wouldn’t
> it?
The Jewish “contribution” to the “civil rights” movement had nothing whatsoever
to do with Negro equality and everything to do with the unconditional hatred
of a certain type of Jew for the society he holds responsible for the historic
persecution of his race. Final Solution, “gas chambers” and all. Dr Weyl obviously
realises this and is to be applauded for his courageous book. If there were a
few more Jews like him and a lot fewer like you there would be no anti-Semitism
at all.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

From [email protected] Wed Aug 16 17:19:25 PDT 1995
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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Adolf Hitler – Racist?
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> “It was and it is Jews who bring the Negroes into the Rhineland, always with
> the same secret thought and clear aim of ruining the hated white race by the
> necessarily resulting bastardization…”
Now that one I do remember. I wonder why he said it. Could it be that prior
to Franz Boas, the ADL and the appalling anti-white films churned out by
Sidney Poitier some Jews were pushing race-mixing?
How about this one from a home grown “racist”:
“in every quarter of the globe, in Asia, Africa, Latin America, and the
United States, Bolshevik agitators whisper in the ears of discontented
colored men their gospel of hatred and revenge. Every nationalist aspiration,
every political grievance, every social discrimination, is fuel for
Bolshevism’s hellish incitement to racial as well as to class war.”
Lothrop Stoddard, 1920. It is an indisputable fact that many of these Bolsheviks
were Jewish. Perhaps that had something to do with what Hitler said.
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Do you, Al Baron, believe that Soviet soldiers raped many women
> in Germany? Yes or no?
> If “yes”, why don’t you reject testimonies about these mass
> rapes, just like you reject testimonies about Nazi atrocities?
I haven’t studied this subject so am not qualified to give an opinion on it.
I will say only that I would find it plausible that a lot of women were raped
because that’s what tends to happen in war.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Baron on the Value of Testimony (Re: THE WITNESS THE REVISIONIS
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Charles R.L. Power” writes:
> But you assumed that descriptions of atrocities by Japanese soldiers, who
> had an extremely well-documented propensity for gratuitous cruelty (a
> racial characteristic, I hasten to add, of homo sapiens, relatively
> recently bridled in some cultures in some circumstances), were false. Why
> do you not assume that the rape stories were false? Why this waffling
> about “difficult if not impossible to evaluate”? You don’t hesitate when
> Axis powers are involved–you instantly exonerate them. Why this double
> standard?
You may not have noticed this Mike but at this very moment there is a
“controversy” in the British media because certain arsehole politicians
and embittered ex-servicemen are pressing the Japanese to apologise for
World War Two. Frankly I don’t see why the people who suffered 2 atom bombs
should have to apologise for anything.
And I am sick to death of the “anti-racist” media carping on about what
slit-eyed sub-human monsters the Japanese are.
Alexander Baron

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not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Al Baron on Nazism and Racism, II
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
Actually Keren, the real reason I posted that Hitler was no racist comment
was to wind you up, as Mike Stein will confirm.
Having said that I stand by the substance of it. Hitler was no more bigoted
than the average white man. EXCEPT as far as the Jews were concerned.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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From: Alexander Baron <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Jewish Nazis
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Warren Burstein” writes:
> You forgot to post why you think it’s relevant to alt.revisionism.
> What bearing does it have on whether the Holocaust took place or not?
I was asked to post it by a friend. Revisionist History begin and end with
Holocaust Revisionism, by the way.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Kari Nenonen” writes:
do you mean to
> make the same observation? What about black sosialsts?
I’ve met very few black socialists. Most of them have got more sense.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Anyway, it may have been an error to rely on
> eye-witnesses for recognizing a person after 40 years;
> but there is no proof nor indication that any witness
> intentionally “lied”, what we see here is just another
> example of an “objective revisionist” in action.

Especially 15 perjured witnesses.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Charles R.L. Power” writes:
> BTW, pardon me for coming in late, but precisely where has Lipstadt
> denied that there were gassings in Dachau (as opposed to, say, reporting
> that she has no convincing evidence that there were gassings–I assume
> you can tell the difference between such statements).
If you can’t prove a point, sow doubts. Hence Lipstadt also says there
is no real evidence that Jews were turned into soap or something like that.
> I still see no denial that there was a gas chamber at Dachau. There is,
> as has been admitted all along, some doubt as to whether it was used,
> although my default assumption on finding a gas chamber disguised as a
> shower would certainly be that it was indeed used.
It wasn’t disguised as a shower, what was shown at the time was an ordinary
shower and a delousing chamber. Anyway, let’s cut the crap, we all know what
I’m talking about. The purpose of the gas chambers [sic] was allegedly to
exterminate Jews as an alternative to shoot them. Were Jews “exterminated”
at Dachau?
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Rick Savage” writes:
> “With gold we buy the most rebellious consciences, can
> subsidized all state loans, and thereafter hold the states at our
> mercy. Already the principal banks, the exchanges of the entire
> world, the credits of all the governments, are in our hands.”
> -Rabbi Reichorn
Rabbi Reichhorn didn’t exist, you wanker.
> “There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that
> so many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are
> consonant with many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” -‘Jewish
> Chronicle’, London, April 4, 1919
Totally out of context.
> “The Bolshevist revolution in Russian was the work of Jewish
> brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is
> to create a new order in the world. What was performed in so
> excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of
> Jewish dissatisfaction and by Jewish planning, shall also, through
> the same Jewish mental and physical forces, become a reality all
> over the world.” -‘The American Hebrew’, Sept 10, 1920
What an incredible irony. I spent the morning at the Newspaper Library,
Colindale, and I looked this up. I couldn’t find it last time I looked
for it, a year and more ago, and I couldn’t find it today. What page
in the American Hebrew for September 10, 1920?
> “We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain destroyers forever.
> Nothing that you will do will meet our needs and demands. We
> will forever destroy because we need a world of our own.”
> -Maurice Samuels, ‘You Gentiles’, p. 155, Harcourt, Brace. 1924
True
> “We Jews, who have posed as Saviours of the World, we are
> today nothing else but the world’s seducers, its destroyers, its
> incendiaries, its executioners.” -Oscar Levy
Yes, he was a white supremacist.
> “The Jewish people as a whole will be its own Messiah. It will
> attain world dominion by the dissolution of other races, by the
> abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy, and by the
> establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will
> everywhere exercise the priviledge of citizenship. In this new
> world order the children of Israel will furnish all the leaders
> without encountering opposition. The Governments of the
> different peoples forming the world republic will fall without
> difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be possible for
> the Jewish rulers to abolish private property, and everywhere to
> make use of the resources of the state. Thus will the promise of
> the Talmud be fulfilled, in which is said that when the Messianic
> time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole
> world in their hands.” -Baruch Levy, Letter to Karl Marx, ‘La
> Revue de Paris’, p. 574, June 1, 1928
Another well established fake.
> “Some call it Marxism – I call it Judaism.” -Rabbi Stephen S.
> Wise, ‘The American Bulletin’, May 15, 1935
Yet another fake, even Lincoln Rockwell admitted this.
> “We must realize that our party’s most powerful weapon is
> racial tension. By propounding into the consciousness of the dark
> races that for centuries they have been oppressed by the whites, we
> can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. In
> America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the
> Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavor to install in
> the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negros.
> We will aid the Negroes to rise to prominence in every walk of
> life, in the professions and in the world of sports and
> entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to
> intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver
> America to our cause.” -Israel Cohen ‘A Racial Program for the
> Twentieth Century,’ 1912, Congressional Record, p8557, 1957
Israel Cohen alias Eustace Mullins
Stop posting this crap and sod off back to United Nations Plaza, you odious
little hatemongering Zionist creep.
Alexander Baron

“He who cannot reason is a fool; he who will not is a bigot; he who dare
not is a slave.” – W. Drummond

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