Tom Moran writes:
In article <[email protected]>
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> To all those who died fighting to create and preserve the the
> basic freedoms of our system, number one – The First Amendment – the
> right to freedom of speech – the right to question history – I hope it
> wasn’t all in vain.
Well, it certainly is here. I had a letter from the police today asking me to
come and see them about one of my publications. Those poor, persecuted, powerless
people have apparently referred it to the authorities. I really didn’t think that
even they would be so stupid as to refer this one but they did. I have declined
to speak to the police on legal advice.
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“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself
the accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
From [email protected] Sun Jun 2 17:24:45 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Condolences to Memorial Day
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Hilary Ostrov” writes:
> And something else that you might want to consider, Mr. Moran, is the
> fable of the little boy who kept crying “wolf”.
CRYING WOLF: Hate Crime Hoaxes In America, by Laird Wilcox
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: No righteous indignation here
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Harry Katz” writes:
> What is particularly hypocritical in all of this is that Mr. Baron
> and Mr. Giwer have never lifted so much as their little fingers to
> defend any victim from any attack anywhere in the world, but here
> they are feigning indignation because the Simon Wiesenthal Center is
> not doing even more than it does already!
On the contrary Harry, I wrote an excellent pamphlet in defence of the
Palestinian people, in particular their right not to have their children
murdered by Zionist stormtroopers. Organised Jewry referred this to the
Attorney General like the sleazeballs they are.
I have at various times spoken out against all manner of victims in my
own small way, but as an ordinary person I don’t get noticed.
—
Alexander Baron: InFoText Manuscripts
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the accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
From [email protected] Sun Jun 2 21:46:40 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: No righteous indignation here
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Harry Katz” writes:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> tom moran ([email protected]) whines:
>
> Selective outrage.
>
> That explains why it is that Mr. Moran never questions the activities
> of any ethnic group besides Jews and why he always bashes Jews
> regardless of what we do.
You can’t say that about me, Harry.
—
Alexander Baron: InFoText Manuscripts
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the accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
From [email protected] Sun Jun 2 21:46:40 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: The Holocaust Plea
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Danny” writes:
> As an aside, today’s (5/31/96) New York Times National Edition page 10
> (I think) contained a lengthy story about the Tulsa Riots of 1921. A
> black was mistakenly accused of assualting a white woman and members of
> the white population of the town completely destroyed a black community
> within the town in retribution. Estimates of black dead ranged from
> about 30 to well over 100. (Interesting methodological reasons exist
> which inhibited achieving an exact count.)
>
> As I read this story, its tone reminded me very much of several stories
> I’ve read recently of dozens or hundreds of Jews killed in villages in
> Poland, Germany and the Ukraine during the early 1940s.
If that truly is the case then I suggest you take it with a pinch of salt,
knowing what we do here about Jewish arithmetic.
—
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the accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
From [email protected] Wed Jun 5 13:45:35 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Prima Facie Extermination
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 96 16:46:53 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> _I Light a Candle_. But forget the page reference: Baron never gives
> them since they almost always lead to his being proved wrong.
I will post this and much more at the beginning of July; I have a reason for
the delay.
> Mr. Baron has also taken issue with Olga Lengyel’s use of the word
> “liquidate” in reference to the evacuation of the camp in January
> 1945. The potential double meaning of the word was suficient proof for
> Mr. Baron that the Holocaust was simply an enormous Jewish
> conspir–oops–the result of massive collusion in a lie. Apparently
> Mr. Baron believes that if he grasps enough straws, hw will build a
> strawman.
You boys never give up do you. If this were a legal action I would serve
you with a request for further and better particulars of the times I have
endorsed the Jewish conspiracy, etc. Then I would have your claims struck
out as frivolous and vexatious.
>
> One shudders to think what will happen the first time he has to read
> and correctly interpret a prescription.
What I have stated time and time again is that the survivor literature is
full of unwarranted assumptions as much as lies.
—
Alexander Baron: InFoText Manuscripts
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the accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
From [email protected] Wed Jun 5 13:45:36 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Prima Facie Extermination
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Danny” writes:
> Why it is listed with Electrical Engineering I have no idea. :>
> But I have a sneaky feeling who might be the butz of that joke.
Probably because the lies the author tells are truly shocking.
—
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the accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
From [email protected] Wed Jun 5 13:45:37 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: People like Hoess, Pery Broad & Kremer
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 96 16:52:58 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Matt Giwer” writes:
> [email protected] (Gord McFee) wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Matt
> >Giwer) said:
>
> >>>This is typical Nazi trash, which our Hitler-lovers spew out
> >>>continuously. Hitler began an aggressive war during which Nazi
> >>>Germany occupied nearly all of Europe, and a large portion
> >>>of the USSR. It seems that the scum here is trying to deny not
> >>>only the Holocaust, but all of Nazi Germany’s acts of aggression
> >>>and war.
Hitler offered to make peace with Britain in July 1940. The British told him
to shove it.
—
Alexander Baron: InFoText Manuscripts
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the accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
From [email protected] Wed Jun 5 15:18:40 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Brit rabbi admits 6,000,000 is fraud
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> So, if this claim by this “rabbi” is authentic, please post:
>
> 1) The *complete* text of what he said/wrote.
>
> 2) Some information about this person. You claim he is a
> “rabbi” and a Ph.D. Prove his credentials to us. It’s
> very common of “revisionists” to assign such titles
> (notably, a Ph.D degree) to people who don’t have them.
Dr Jonathan Sacks is the Chief Rabbi. I find it difficult to believe that
he would have said something like this, and comforting that his predecessor
shares my views on homosexuality.
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the accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
From [email protected] Wed Jun 5 21:12:33 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Prima Facie Extermination
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
>
> Quite so. You deny that there is a conspiracy. Rather, it is a matter
> of “mass collusion” for which you can adduce no evidence. In your own
> words:
>
> There is an enormous problem of evidence here: you and others
> keep asking for evidence, evidence, evidence. When people lie
> so systematically it is virtually impossible to adduce evidence;
I said virtually impossible, not totally. In fact the mass collusion and
brainwashing of the goyim by the Holocaust Lobby is demonstrable. I will
be proving it in a court case either late this year or early next.
—
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the accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
From [email protected] Fri Jun 7 07:11:46 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: 960531: Allied War Crimes
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In article <[email protected]>
CONVICTED OUT OF HER OWN MOUTH: The Record of German Crimes
pages 7-8 “The brigade order is to shoot all Frenchmen who fall
into our hands, wounded or not. No prisoners are to be made.”
This was said to be a verbal order
page 8 reports of bayoneting the wounded
page 10 reports massacres of wounded and medical staff
page 11 reports starving of prisoners
pages 18-9 reports the rape of women, forced labour and deportations reported
and much more
They never tire of this beastly Hun bullshit, do they?
From [email protected] Fri Jun 7 07:11:47 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: 960530: Revisionism, measles, and expirements
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Chuck” writes:
> >Imagine this headline, written by Bernard Josephs, {Jewish} followed by
> >excerpted text quoting Sir Leon Brittan {Jewish} and Michael Howard
> >{Jewish} in the Jewish Chronicle, May 10, page 9:
Michael Howard has been an exemplary Home Secretary and has told Organised
Jewry to go to Hell.
> >
> >”Brittan opposes Euro-law against Holocaust denial.
> >
> >European commissioner Sir Leon Brittan has lined up with the British
> >government in opposing moves to make Holocaust denial a criminal offense
> >throughout Europe.
Brittan is a much maligned man; he was the fall guy for Margaret Thatcher
and got this job as a reward.
> >Addressing an audience of Jewish communal leaders, european diplomats and
> >MPs in London last week, Mr. Brittan warned that such legislation would
> >endanger freedom of expression.
> >
> >”If we have a law to stop people saying things, even though they are
> >palpably untrue, then God help us,” he said. . .
> >
> >”It is one thing to incite hatred and another to express views, however
> >disagreeable, on historical events.”
> >
> >The comments of the former Home Secretary were in keeping with those of
> >Prime Minister John Major and Home Secretary Michael Howard following the
> >government’s refusal to join in EU counterparts in declaring Holocaust
> >denial a criminal offense.
Both Howard and Brittan are men who put principles above serving the interests
of Organised Jewry.
> >In a letter to Board president Eldred Tabachnik, Mr. Major had argued that
> >such a move would be tantamount to “suppression of opinion.”
Tabachnik on the other hand is insidious.
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From [email protected] Fri Jun 7 07:11:47 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: Where did all the ashes go?
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Are you referring to “Darkness At Noon”? Indeed, one of the greatest
> books ever written.
I’ve read that and I must confess that it went right over my head. Another
“great” book is Cry The Beloved Country. From that I learned that if a man
murders your son you should construct a well in his village.
—
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From [email protected] Sat Jun 8 06:43:15 PDT 1996
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Ian McKinney” writes:
> Ian McKinney wrote:
>
> I heard not long ago on this group several persons moaning about
> the claim that Bolshevism was primarily a Jewish movement. Oh, I
> know it’s “hate” they say to mention anything derogatory about
> God’s master race. Totally without truth they will tell you.
> Well, fortunately there were more than a few who happened to be
> in Russia in 1917-19 and actually saw what so many today want to
> deny. I’ll provide facts to back-up my claims.
Before you give any credence to this I would advise you to read up on
the background to this sort of material. A lot of this was manufactured
by white Russian emigres in Rostov on Don. There was also a character named
Boris Brasol who, as well as palming this off on Henry Ford, wormed his
way into American intelligence.
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the accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
From [email protected] Sat Jun 8 06:43:16 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Brit rabbi admits 6,000,000 is fraud
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Alexander Baron writes:
>
> # Dr Jonathan Sacks is the Chief Rabbi. I find it difficult to
> # believe that he would have said something like this
>
> Thanks for the information. Can someone then post the exact
> and complete text of what he allegedly said/wrote?
Normally I would but the library where I read the Jewish Chronicle has
had it swiped for the past fortnight. I don’t buy that gutter rag on
principle. I would imagine though that anything he did say on that subject
would be reported in the Jewish press in the US, and if it were genuinely
controversial (the New York Times).
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“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself
the accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
From [email protected] Sat Jun 8 12:41:36 PDT 1996
Article: 41855 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Prima Facie Extermination
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 96 23:30:24 GMT
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Yale F. Edeiken” writes:
> > Alexander Baron writes:
>
> You are restricting the pleadings to a single claim. No one has
> claimed
> you have stated the Protocols are genuine
Oh yes they have.
>(although you have stated that they
> are not anti-Semitic).
I have stated – and this is in print – that although the Protocols have become
a cornerstone of anti-Semitic ideology they are first and foremost a mystical
document. Some people claim – with some justification – that they do not even
refer to the Jews but to the Freemasons. Anyone who believes that King Solomon
and the Elders of Zion sat down in 929BC and plotted to carve up the world
using the symbolic snake of Judaism doesn’t have to be an anti-Semite, but he
does have to be 3 sandwiches short of a picnic.
The claim was that you charged there were Jewish
> conspiracies. You have. Proving that you have is a piece of cake.
Certainly, there are also Irish conspiracies – the IRA; Sicilian conspiracies
– the Cosa Nostra; Columbian conspiracies – Medalin; and American conspiracies
– the Federal government. Even the Israeli government believes in Jewish
conspiracies – the plot to kill Yitzhak Rabin. Baron believes in Jewish
conspiracies. So what?
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Alexander Baron: InFoText Manuscripts
“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself
the accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
From [email protected] Mon Jun 10 12:50:37 PDT 1996
Article: 42470 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Forensic Studies, Enemies of the Myth
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> > Irving’s experience with primary documents may be greater than anyone
> > who contributes here, but previous posters have demonstrated that his
> > honesty in interpreting those documents pales to some of our very own
> > archivists such as McCarthy and Stein.
>
“Blacklisted” Irving has a big ad in the Bookseller this week, and a quote from
Gitta Sereny: one brilliant propagandist writing about another.
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Alexander Baron
From [email protected] Mon Jun 10 12:50:38 PDT 1996
Article: 42471 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Jews = Communism. Read it and weep from U.S. Archives
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Kevin Alfred Strom” writes:
> It isn’t so easy as that, Mr. Baron.
>
> The mountain of evidence, from testimony before Congressional Committees,
> to the statements of Jewish Marxists themselves, to intelligence
> documents in the National Archives, to eyewitness testimony of many who
> were there, including liberals and leftists, leads to the inescapable
> conclusion that the Bolshevik Revolution was largely a Jewish revolution.
Please don’t put me in the position of refuting anti-Semitic nonsense; it might
embarrass Yale and Dan. In the first place, Karl Marx, whatever his ethnic
origins, was an anti-Semite an Imperialist (a great admirer of the USA) and
a white supremacist, so he should be a good guy in your book.
>
> Even Winston Churchill said so. See his _Zionism versus Bolshevism, A
> Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People_, _Illustrated Sunday Herald_,
> February 8, 1920.
This article is rubbish; Churchill had been taken in by the communism is
Jewish garbage and Churchill was an arsehole anyway.
Bela Kun (Hungary) ended up in a lunatic asylum and was executed by Stalin
as a Trotskyite. So what?
> Those are the words of Winston Churchill. Need I go on?
> Bellowing the truth,
Read my book on Irving and Irving’s book on Churchill if you want to know
the truth.
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Alexander Baron
From [email protected] Mon Jun 10 12:50:39 PDT 1996
Article: 42472 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Jews = Communism. Read it and weep from U.S. Archives
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Kevin Alfred Strom” writes:
> One the one hand, they characterize White “racists” as pathetic losers,
> unable to keep up maintenance or payments on the ’74 Pinto (which
> attitude is very revealing about the “love” of the Left for their dear
> “working class”).
>
> On the other hand, “racists” are also masterminds of a well-funded
> worldwide network of terror, propaganda, and hate which continually
> confounds the efforts of The Good to stamp it out and which at any moment
> may drop from the sky, topple the statues of Karl Marx, Franklin
> Roosevelt, and Arthur Ashe from their places of honor, and institute the
> Fourth Reich (scenario by Leni Riefenstahl, theme by Richard Strauss,
> starring Hal Peary as El Generalissimo, with a script by Henry Ford and
> P. G. Wodehouse).
Bravo – excellent posting!
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Alexander Baron
From [email protected] Mon Jun 10 12:50:40 PDT 1996
Article: 42473 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Kevin Alfred Strom” writes:
> Winston Churchill was only saying what was common knowledge among
> educated men at the time, and what Rabbi Stephen S. Wise said more
> succinctly in the _American Bulletin_ of May 15, 1935:
>
> “Some call it Marxism — I call it Judaism.”
This is a fake, it has been commented on here before.
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Alexander Baron
From [email protected] Wed Jun 12 10:36:40 PDT 1996
Article: 42761 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: More problems
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I’ve just had to reconfigure my software; I haven’t been able to download
newsgroups for a week and am rather tied up anyway so anything important
please E-mail.
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Alexander Baron
From [email protected] Sun Jun 16 13:50:39 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Quotes and misquotes
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I have checked out this quote below, which was posted to the group
recently. This should be letter perfect. I can find no trace of the
quote attributed to the Chief Rabbi re the 6,000,000; if whoever posted
that can give further details, like the date and page it was published
in the $Jewish Chronicle$ or whereever, I would appreciate that.
$Brittan opposes Euro-law against Holocaust denial: EU Commissio-
ner backs government stance$, published in the $Jewish Chronicle$,
May 10, 1996, page 9:
begin quote: European Commissioner Sir Leon Brittan has lined up
with the British government in opposing moves to make Holocaust
denial a criminal offence throughout Europe.
Addressing an audience of Jewish communal leaders, European
diplomats and MPs in London last week, Mr Brittan warned that
such legislation would endanger freedom of expression.
“If we have a law to stop people saying things, even though they
are palpably untrue, then God help us,” he said. . .
“It is one thing to incite hatred and another to express views,
however disagreeable, on historical events.”
The comments of the former Home Secretary were in keeping with
those of Prime Minister John Major and Home Secretary Michael
Howard following the government’s refusal to join its EU counter-
parts in declaring Holocaust denial a criminal offence.
In a letter to Board president Eldred Tabachnik, Mr Major had
argued that such a move would be tantamount to “suppression of
opinion.”…
Asked about the need to protect Jewish interests in Europe, the
commissioner said his impression was that “the issues on Jewish
representation is needed are important, but limited.”… :end
quote
$Wrong way to combat those in the wrong$, by Chaim Bermant, pub-
lished in the $Jewish Chronicle$, May 10, 1996, page 25. This is
>from his $On the other hand$ column.
begin quote: If the freedom of speech means anything at all, it
includes the right to be wrong and tendentious, and the right
even to cause offence. And if we, as Jews, now live in compara-
tive security, it is largely because we have the good fortune to
live in societies where such freedom is taken for granted.
The whole process of historiography is one of revision, not only
because new facts and documents come to light, but also because
even established facts can be reassessed and reinterpreted, for
one generation rarely sees events through the perspective of
another.
To demand laws that the received wisdom surrounding the Holocaust
should forever be insulated from the process goes against every
dictate of reason.
Such laws are wrong in principle and are ineffective and possibly
harmful in practice… end: quote
And, commenting on Revisionist work, the article writer opines-
listen to this:
“Any attempt to stifle their work, however, will always lay one
open to the suspicion that one has something to hide. And noth-
ing such people can say is quite as damaging as the suppression
of their right to say it.”
—
Alexander Baron
From [email protected] Sun Jun 16 19:00:59 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Ernst Zundel’s promotion of forgery: Das Lachout Dokument
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Ken McVay OBC” writes:
> THE LACHOUT “DOCUMENT”
> ANATOMY OF A FORGERY
I have just completed a critique called HOLOCAUST “REVISIONISM” AND FRAUD;
it is currently at the proof-reading stage and will, hopefully, be available
by September, if not sooner, as part of my next tranche of publications.
In keeping with my long established non-partisan spirit this study will also
contain many documented examples of Exterminationist chicanery.
—
Alexander Baron
From [email protected] Sun Jun 16 19:01:00 PDT 1996
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Damage control in this case was a masterpiece. Jack Schuss, the boy’s father,
said that “He has had some problems in the past and has been receiving treatment
>from time to time.” An editorial in the Hartford Courant spoke of “a troubled
and alienated 17-year old.” The editorial quoted Rabbi Krupka,
“It’s time not to be judgmental but to feel…The feeling now is how would we as
a family react…We have to be very sympathetic to his family. 19
It was revealed that until Schuss confessed to his crimes they did not have
enough evidence to arrest him, even though several times circumstances pointed
directly to him. In fact, Schuss was a suspect virtually from the beginning. At
one point during the investigation, police kept 33 officers in the neighborhood
where the fires occurred. The Hartford Courant reported that
“Six homes were watched 24 hours a day and about a dozen suspects were given lie
detector tests. At least 15 officers were assigned to door-to-door interviews.
More than 300 people eventually were questioned about the fires.
Following his arrest on four counts of second-degree arson, each of which
carries a maximum 20-year sentence, a motion was made to try Schuss as a
youthful offender, even though he had planned to set at least four additional
fires before he was apprehended. 21
On February 27, 1984, Hartford Superior Court Judge John D. Brennan gave Barry
Dov Schuss a suspended sentence and placed on five years probation. In a
statement to the court, Schuss said that a possible” reason for setting the
synagogue fires was to to show vulnerability of the police or the synagogue” to
anti-Semitic violence.”
Three men allegedly entered a Milwaukee synagogue and poured a caustic substance
on Buzz Cody, the sexton. The December, 1985, incident occurred just a few hours
before the start of Hanakuh, a major Jewish holiday. 33
Cody, a former Roman Catholic who had converted to Judaism twelve years
previous, said that one of the men demanded that he unlock the sanctuary’s Ark,
where four of the synagogue’s eleven main Torahs are kept. He said the men
demanded, “Open it up. We want your Holy Koran!”, and referred to a group with
the initials “P.D.L,” possibly referring to a “Palestinian Defense League. ‘
Cody described the men as being dark-complexioned and speaking with Middle East
accents. The synagogue’s senior rabbi, Francis Barry Silberg, said that Cody was
obviously “willing to sacrifice himself for his faith and his duty and the
integrity of the synagogue.” 34
Alert police detectives suspected a hoax from the beginning. Milwaukee Police
Lt. William Vogel said,
“I can’t justify it with the investigative results as they have been presented
to us. When you’re talking about some-thing involving a radical group, they
don’t operate in this manner . 35
This skepticism prompted the Milwaukee Journal to editorialize that, “…the
police uncertainly seemingly demeaned the episode’s seriousness. .”, which
“could be interpreted…as reflecting police insensitivity.” 36
In July, 1985, the Jewish Community Center in Milwaukee had been defaced with
nine red, spraypainted swastikas. A year before that, in June 1984, the
Congregation Beth El Ner Tamid in nearby Mequon was defaced with several red,
spraypainted swastikas. 37
The incident was followed by anonymous telephone calls in the area, one of which
said that “…the defense league is at war with the Jewish community.” On
December 19, 1985, Cody’s apartment was allegedly vandalized. The walls were
covered with anti-Semitic symbols, again in red spray paint, including a large
swastika and the letters “PDL.” Police could find no forced entry. Rabbi Silberg
said, “The victim has been re-victimized.” An investigation has turned up no
such an organization as the “Palestine Defense League” or P.D.L.” 38
On May I5, 1986 Cody was charged with two counts of obstructing an officer in
connection with reports he had made to police about receiving threatening
telephone calls, which police had determined were not true. A tracer installed
by the phone company had shown that at least two of the calls were placed from
Cody’s private line.
Later that same day, possibly fearing discovery and disgrace, Buzz Cody
tragically committed suicide. Police Captain Ronald Mehl, referring to the
alleged December 1985 attack on Cody said, “There has been no shred of evidence
to support the allegation.” 39 No further “PDL” incidents followed Cody’s death.
Sixteen months after arson destroyed Woodside Synagogue in Silver Spring, MD, no
arrests had yet been made. At the time of the April 8, 1986
fire, community leaders rallied to the aid of the orthodox Jewish congregation
and supported a wave of demands that urgent action be taken to stem
anti-Semitism and hate crimes.
Lt. Carvel Harding, a Montgomery County fire investigator, thinks he knows the
culprit’s identity, although he lacks “sufficient probable cause’ to arrest the
subject. Harding told Washington Jewish Week that, “We feel we know the motive’
but if we tell you, you’ll know who the person is.” “This is very touchy,” he
said. Harding also said that the arson was not “an act against people of the
Jewish faith.” Synagogue sources said one member who has since left the area was
brought in for questioning and is still a suspect. 40
Dr. Sheldon Jacobson, a Jewish dentist, discovered a fire in the form of a large
swastika burning on his lawn at his Hewlett Neck, New York, home in August,
1979. It was thought that the incident was another in a series of racial
offenses that had allegedly occurred in the area in the last several weeks .
A few days later police had their culprit. He was Douglas Kahn, a Jewish
teen-ager who had been angered because Jacobson’s dog had defecated on his front
lawn. He retaliated by pouring gasoline in the form of a 20 by 20-foot swastika
on Jacobson’s lawn and lighting it. Kahn, who worked as a guard at Kennedy
Airport, was later convicted of fourth-degree criminal mischief placed on three
years probation and ordered to pay $650 in restitution. 41
“How many hate crimes can one bear? That’s what Nathan Kobrin has been asking
himself all summer in 1991. And there seems no end in sight.” 42
Kobrin, a Jewish man from Concord, California, claimed to have been the victim
of anti-Semitic telephone calls, letters, arson and verbal threats on 20
separate occasions between May 17 and Labor Day I991 — all threatening his
life. Moreover, he claimed that the ordeal has damaged his health.
On August 6, when an unidentified woman told him he would die, he stopped
eating. According to Kobrin, “My nerves were shot, and my stress level was very
high.” On August 8, Kobrin became almost totally paralyzed. He was taken to a
hospital and released the same day.
However after an article in the Northern California Jewish Bulletin appeared
detailing his courageous battle with anti-Semitism, followed by another
sympathetic account in the August 17 Contra Costa Times, his spirits lightened.
He received some 50 calls of support. According to Kobrin,
“People were telling me that they weren’t Jewish but that they knew what I was
going through. All kinds of people called. Hispanics were calling, blacks, the
whole ethnic tossed salad. It was amazing.” 43
The harassment of Kobrin began on May 17th, when Halim Abdul Sanjanie, a Muslim
who-lived in the same apartment building, allegedly threatened Kobrin because he
was Jewish. Sanjanie was arrested. He was jailed a second time
July 12th, when he resisted Concord Police who were serving a restraining order
on Kobrin’s behalf. Over the next several weeks Kobrin claimed to have received
numerous telephone death threats and awakened twice to find his backyard fence
on fire. On August 16th, Kobrin received a letter that read, “Drop charges or I
kill you, Jew boy.”
Sanjanie, 28, who was originally charged with resisting arrest and hitting a
police officer, found himself also charged with making terroristic threats and
interfering with Kobrin’s civil rights. He faced several years i n prison . 44
Having acquired status as a heroic victim of bigotry and prejudice, Kobrin
became widely known in the San Francisco Bay area. His case was used as an
illustration of the hatred toward Jews that lurks about in our society. However,
on September 12, 1991, Bay Area residents were presented with a different story.
The Oakland Tribune reported,
“A Concord man who claims he has been the victim of 22 anti-Semitic attacks
since May told investigators yesterday that he fabricated 10 of the alleged
incidents, police said. Nathan Kobrin 36, said he was the victim of terroristic
phone calls, hate letters and two arson fires that were set in his patio. He
blamed most of the attacks on his former neighbor, 28-year-old Halim Abdul
Sanjanie. –
“Yesterday Kobrin admitted to investigators that he ignited the two fires in his
patio, left two terroristic messages on his answering machine and wrote six hate
letters to himself, Concord police said. 45
Concord Detective Stuart Roloson discovered Kobrin’s fabrications the night of
September 9th, after Kobrin claimed to have received a threatening, anti-Semitic
note (one of six he had admitted to falsifying), and that he had chased an
assailant through a parking lot. Detective Roloson, who had been watching the
apartment all night, hadn’t seen any of the alleged events. Roloson also
previously suspected that Kobrin was lying: about some of the incidents .
The Anti-Defamation League, which had basked in the publicity against
anti-Semitism and hate crimes brought by Kobrin’s fabrications, was caught
holding the bag. Richard Hirschaut, executive director of the ADL’s Central
Pacific Regional Office, who had several contacts with Kobrin, spoke of the
developments in a “shocked and shaken voice.” He said,
“The tragedy of Nathan Kobrin in no way discounts or diminishes the reality of
increased anti-Semitism and the increase throughout society in hate crimes.” 47
The false charges against Sanjanie were subsequently dropped. Kobrin was ordered
to appear for arraignment January 31, 1992 in Contra Costa Superior Court. He
was charged with one count of perjury two counts of arson, and six counts of
preparing false documentary evidence. All are felonies. In addition, he was
charged with nine misdemeanor counts of making false pol ice reports. 48
Kobrin was convicted in June, 1992. Deputy District Attorney Terri
Barker said he should receive the maximum sentence for committing hate crimes,
eight years in state prison. She commented,
“I argued that these were hate crimes and they were done out of a motive against
Mr. Sanjanie because of his race. It was sophisticated, because there was a lot
of planning involved. It was a hideous misuse of the system and of emergency
personnel.” 49
In July he was sentenced to one year in the county jail, in spite of pleas from
his attorney that his sentence be suspended. Nancy Diner, an ADL official who
attended the sentencing, said that
Kobri n ‘ s hoax ” will not change the way it investigates anti-Semitic crimes.”
In February 1994. a Jewish student at the Kansas City-area Leawood Mid-dle
School was apprehended after he distributed anonymous anti-Semitic notes,
apparently only to other Jewish students. According to media sources,
“the perpetrator was identified…and is thought to be responsible for placing
anonymous notes with pencil-drawn swastikas and phrases such as “go home, Jew”
on the books and lockers of six students over two weeks. 50
The incident caused a major furor among parents of students at the school, and
some threatened to use the legal system to force release of the student’s name.
Leawood Police Chief Stephen Cox criticized members of the community and the
media for creating a “feeding frenzy” over the incident. He said.
“The child is already in intensive counseling, and so are the parents…Because
they are responding appropriately, I see no need whatsoever for any further
involvement or sanctions through either the criminal justice system or the
school system.
“What is very harmful now is the continued turmoil at the school, children
accusing each other, divisive efforts to identify the child. I would urge these
people to carefully consider their own motives before taking such action.” 51
One of the stranger cases of faked anti-Semitic violente was staged in 1991 by a
former volunteer firefighter in Sugarloaf Mountain, Colorado, who said he was
mistaken as a Jew. Terry Hutter had claimed that a mysterious fire set at his
home was one of several alleged hate crimes committed against him since I984 by
people who wrongly believed he was Jewish. The fire was contained before the
home was destroyed but another fire completed the destruction a month later. The
Boulder, Colorado, Daily Camera reported
“Investigators discovered that, in a videotape of the fire, Hutter inadvertently
was recorded talking about setting the fire. Hutter and another man involved in
the taped conversation, Curtis Covey, didn’t realize they were being record-
In April, 1992, Terry Hutter pleaded no contest to a charge of third-degree
arson. He was sentenced to eight years probation and mandatory psychiatric
counselling.
A Chicago-area case of anti-Semitic vandalism in a West Ragers Park townhouse
was originally thought by police to be a hate crime. On February S, 1994,
however, police had arrested Shazz Steele, 17, and his 14-year-old girlfriend.
The two were charged with the vandalism and with burglarizing the same house.
Belmont area Police Sgt. Rick Batrich said that the youth who apparently knew
the owner of the townhouse and that the two painted the graffiti to link the
burglary with the other unsolved anti-Semitic incidents in the area. “They did
this to throw some attention off themselves,” he said. 53
It was one of the worst anti-Semitic cemetery desecrations in recent memory. Los
Angeles County sheriff’s investigators initially believed that the June, 1991,
incident at Home of Peace Cemetery in East Los Angeles, one of the oldest Jewish
cemeteries in the area, may have been a hate crime. According to news reports,
“More than 24 tombstones were knocked over and Nazi swastikas, Ku Klux Klan
‘KKKs’ and devil-worship slogans were painted on some walls and tombs.” 54
Within days the case was solved. The owner of C.D.T.A. Security, Roger Ricardo
Sapien, 27, of Rosemead, wanted to obtain the security contract on the Jewish
cemetery. According to authorities, Sapien, with the aid of two
confederates,-apparently committed the vandalism in order to discredit the firm
now providing security there.
Information on the case took detectives to Sapien’s home, where they found the
guard dogs recently stolen from the cemetery. The three were booked for
investigation of vandalism of a religious cemetery. a felony, and Sapien was
charged with theft of the dogs.
In Cooper City, Florida, Jerome and Jamie Brown Roedel, a Jewish couple,
returned home to find their home trashed and burglarized. The April, 1993,
incident included anti-Semitic graffiti in the form of swastikas painted on the
walls. News reports indicated that
Outraged community leaders, police and residents moved quickly to stem what
they thought was the start of a trend in hate crimes. Within two weeks an
interfaith council to promote unity among ethnic and religious groups was
organized. 55
A detailed eight-month joint investigation with the Cooper City Police the FBI
According to Police Detective Bobby Cates,
“In the weeks prior to the burglary, Jamie Roedel purchased several expensive
items…She then conspired with several people to stage the burglary and
vandalism. She also filed a claim with Allstate , her insurer, for $47,000 in
losses and damages.” 56
The insurance company paid Roedel $30.000. After she collected the insurance
money, Jamie Roedel left her husband and began living an expensive lifestyle
with a boyfriend. In December, 1993, she was charged with fraud and grand theft.
She was freed on $2,000 bail. Her estranged husband was not charged in the case.
Swastika-painting vandals were suspected of setting fire to the basement of a
downtown Denver restaurant June 10, l990. The restaurant’s Jewish owners were
beside themselves with outrage at the ugly graffiti (“Hitler Re-born, “Die
Jew.”)57 Lee Waldman, owner of the Egg Shell Restaurant, also noted that
business was down 40%, according to the Rocky Mountain News.
Denver police intelligence officers suspected skinhead involvement. Denver Mayor
Frederico Pena ordered an investigation into recent racist acts in the city and
the News carried several alarmist articles on growing racism and anti-Semitism.
Lee Waldman said, “I think there’s a lot more anti-Se-mitism in Denver than
people realize. 58 City leaders responded with out-rage, stepped up police
activity and called for new anti-racist legislation.
As the investigation proceeded, however, it became more and more apparent that
skinheads were not involved in the event and the possibility of a hoax loomed on
the horizon.
Denver police have heavily infiltrated local gangs and skinhead groups and had
kept meticulous track of racist and anti-Semitic incidents in the community. The
News noted that most incidents were “committed by adolescents – perhaps bored
and ignorant of the consequences of their acts – and not by organized hate
groups…”, a fact that is often ignored. A one-paragraph article finally noted
that Swastikas spraypainted on the walls of the restaurant may have been an
effort to mislead.” In a later article on “hate-crime hoaxes,” News reporter
Kevin Flynn noted that
“After all the grandstanding and headlines, the spraypaintings of swastikas in
the Egg Shell arson is now believed to have been a hoax, and not to have
involved neo-Nazi skin-heads at all. Investigators believe the swastikas were
meant to divert suspicion. 59
In one prominent case the suspected perpetrator of a hate crime hoax and
insurance fraud was acquitted on the basis of insufficient evidence.
Susan and Curtis Klein, a young Jewish couple, returned home to find their
Germantown, Maryland, townhouse vandalized. Swastikas were painted on the living
room carpet, bedroom mirrors, walls and hallways. Most of their
clothes were ripped and most of their furniture was either painted black,
ripped, scratched or smashed. The deliberateness and effort required to commit
the March 22, l991 vandalism was highly unusual in alleged hate crimes. Someone
would have to have spent the better part of an hour attending to the detailed
graffiti and vandalism. In the bedroom of their 8-year-old son, the words “Jew
Boy” were sprayed on a mirror. According to Mr. Klein, “The officer said this is
the worst case of vandalism he’s ever seen in a private home. ” He added,
“We grew up being taught about the holocaust and being told, ‘Never again, ‘ and
here we are now. I don’t think we’ve gotten through the state of shock. 60
The apparent- hate crime was committed just a day before Jeffrey Lee Eskew, a
self-styled skinhead, was acquitted of breaking and entering, malicious
destruction and religious vandalism at the an Orthodox Jewish boy’s school in
Montgomery County, Maryland.
The response to the anti-Semitic vandalism was overwhelming. Five hundred people
volunteered to help Curtis and Susan Klein clean up their home. A raffle was
organized to raise money for the Kleins. Area businesses donated food and- soft
drinks for the volunteers and a local hauling company offered to provide a truck
to haul debris. Newspapers printed an address where donations could be sent to
the Klein family. 61
Police skepticism crystailized-early in the investigation. Aside from the
unusual time-consuming deliberateness of the attack, the most obvious clue was
the issue of secondary gain. The Kleins became local heroes and symbols of the
struggle against anti-semitism. Moreover, according to news reports Mr. Klein
claimed that,
“…90 percent of their belongings were slashed, broken, shredded or marred with
black spraypaint that was used to write hate graffiti throughout the house.” 62
A review of hate crimes against property and anti-Semitic vandalism suggests
that cases where the perpetrators go to this much effort to send a message are
extremely rare. For a person to take time to shred clothes, for example, implies
a deeply personal motive for the vandalism, suggesting that it might have been
someone with a personal animus against the victim. Investigators could not
locate anyone who fit this description. On the other hand, cases like this often
prove to be hoaxes. According to Montgomery County Police spokesman Harry
Geehreng,
“We have not established a motive. We have no suspects. It’s strange. Why was
this family targeted? There were other Jewish families in the area.” 63
Before long the media began reporting that Curtis Klein was a suspect in the
case, although no charges had been filed. The Kleins’ attorneys Barry Helfand
and Alan Goldstein, were accused police of “leaking information” to the press.
Goldstein spoke of it in conspiratorial terms, saying the police were trying to
“poison the public’s mind.” It was also learned that Klein had been charged with
stealing approximately S1,300 from a Germantown beauty salon where he used to
work. On advice from his attorneys, Klein refused to answer any questions. 64
On July 6th, Montgomery County police charged Klein with felony theft,
destruction of property and filing a false crime report in order to collect more
than $31,000 from his insurance company. Anti-Defamation League regional
director David Friedman, who had taken an interest in the case, expressed
“sadness” at the direction the case had taken. Klein denied the charges and said
he had been a victim of hate violence. His wife was not charged .
A district court statement of charges detailed several inconsistencies in
Klein’s account. Montgomery County detective Kevin Stone said that entry was
apparently not forced. Curtis Klein reported to work as a hairdresser about
10:15 AM on the day of the incident, give him ample time to vandalize the house.
A neighbor said that the Kleins’ dog, which had always barked at strangers, did
not bark that morning. Although many of the Kleins’ belongings were destroyed or
damaged, some items that were obviously Jewish were not harmed — somewhat the
opposite of what might be expected in a bona fide hate crime.
Police immediately searched for a spraypaint can, but it was three days later
that the Kleins turned in a can they said was found under the debris. The can
had been purchased at the hardware store closest to the Klein residence, and a
clerk said that Curtis Klein had been in the store on the morning of the
vandalism. Klein at first claimed that S6,750 in Jewellery had been stolen, but
later said it was not missing.
The statement also said that the Kleins were in debt, including $5,000 owed to
the Internal Revenue Service and S7,000 to relatives. Their combined incomes
were S41,000- from which $580 monthly was for car payments and $765 for rent on
the townhouse, police said. They had taken out a renters insurance policy less
than three months before the incident, had broken their lease and made plans to
move shortly before the vandalism. 65
In September 1991 the case came to trial. Eight prosecution witnesses testified.
Frank Bell, property specialist for the USAA Property and Casualty Insurance
Company, said that Klein had claimed compensation for a glass-topped dining room
table. Bell testified that “a chunk” was broken from the table when he
inventoried damages on March 25th. However, a police photograph taken of the
table during the investigation on March 21st showed that it was unbroken at that
time, suggesting that it had been broken afterward. 66
Nevertheless, the evidence against Klein, although seemingly strong, was
circumstantial. Hardware store clerk Jay Russell could not identify Mr. Klein as
the man who purchased the spraypaint, although he remembered him in the store
that morning. Claiming that the evidence presented by the state was
“speculative,” Judge William C. Miller found for the defense and acquitted
Curtis Klein of all charges. With respect to the failure of the Kleins dog to
bark at the alleged vandal, Miller said, “The only thing the court can infer is
that this dog is not a very good watchdog.” 67
A week later Maryland Assistant State’s Attorney James Trusty dropped the
charges in the alleged theft of S1,300 from Klein’s former employer. Klein had
been accused of destroying and falsifying receipts between November 1
and-November 16, 1990, police said. Kleins’ attorney, Barry Hefland, said,
“My client has already admitted it to police. My client had a nervous breakdown
over this case. In spite of his ad-mission, I’d have won the case, he has
reimbursed his former employers. 68
But it was not over yet. Once again the mysterious anti-Semitic vandal struck
the hapless Klein family.
In June 1992 — fifteen months after the first anti-Semitic incident — Susan
Klein said she opened the door of her new apartment and faced a black Nazi
swastika painted on the walls. As in the March, 1991 incident, couches, chairs,
drapes and clothing were slashed. Drawers were strewn about, china closed and
kitchen cupboard doors were opened and everything seemed to have been spotted by
black spraypaint. Jew” was painted across a table and a picture of a rabbi was
slashed. Police said they found no sign of forced entry. Mrs. Klein expressed
concern that police would consider her husband a suspect once again. 69
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1 ADL Bulletin, March 1985.
2 Ronald Smothers, Hate Fliers Inflame Mayoral Race in New Orleans, ” New York
Times ( February 27, l994 ) 3 Smothers, Op Cit.
4 James Feron, “Yonkers Housing Advocate Held in Fake Death Threats.” New York
Times (1 December 1988).
5 Sharon Broussard, “Swastika Raid On Deseg Supporter.” New York Daily News (28
November 1988).
6 Yonkers Woman Admits Faking Death Threats and Anti-Semitic Graffiti, ” Jewish
Telegraph Agency ( 1 December 1988 ) .
7 “Jewish Shops Struck,” Associated Press (24 November 1985).
8 Joe Starita, “Vandals Arouse Fears Of Anti-Semitism,” Sialm.i Heralet (6
December 1985).
9 William Saphire, “Jewish Defense Group Organizes Patrols,” Kansas City Jewish
Chronicle (6 December 1985).
10 Bill Farrell and Alton Slagle, “Man Nabbed in Rock Spree,” New York Daily
News (10 December 19S5).
11 Jewish Telegraph Agency, “NY Jewish Vandal Nabbed,” Kansas City Jewish
Chronicle (20 December 1985).
12 Nels Nelson, “Nazis Win Permit For Park Rally Sunday,” Philadelphia Daily
News (21 February 1979).
13 ”Park Service Rescinds Permit for Nazi Rally at Independence Hall,” New York
Times (24 February 1979).
14 Barbara Sullivan, “3 Arsons Ignite Old Fear of Anti-Semitism,” Chicago
Tribune (1 September 1983).
15 Karlynn Carrington, “4th Target Hit By Arson,” Hartford Courant ( 18
September 1983 ) .
16 Sullivan, Op Cit.
17 Michael J Davies, “Covering An Arsonist’s Acts,” Hartford Cournat ( 2 October
1983 ) .
18 Tao Woolfe, “Father Says His Son Confessed To Rabbi About Arson Attacks,
Hartford Courant ( 16 December 1983 )
19 Editorial, “Peace In The Family,” Hartford Courant (15 December 1983 ) .
20 Dave Lesher, “Arson Arrest Ended Obsession For Police,” Hartford Courant
(December 17, 1983).
21 “suspect Planned To Set More Fires, Authorities Say.” Hartford Courant (24
January 1984).
22 Dave Lesher, “Youth Given Suspended Sentence For Setting Hartford Fires
Hartford Courant ( 28 February 1984 ) .
23 “Mort Gets Trashed?,” Newsweek (8 May l988).
24 Joe Palka, “Mouthing Off,” Washington Times (8 May 1992)
25 Thomas G. Keane, “Fire Dept’s Swastika Probe is Stalled,” San Francisco
Chronicle ( 20 February 1985 ) .
26 Keane, Op Cit
27 “Swastikas Painted On Apartments By Two Jewish Youths, ” Jewish Sentinel
(March 31, 1984).
28 Rhone Melody Bosin, “Jewish Youth Charged In Swastika Burning,” Washington
Jewish Week (6 August 1987).
29 Bosin, Op Cit
30 Frank Argote-Freyre, “Jewish Teens Charged In Spray-Paint-ing Asbury Park
Press ( 15 July 1989 ) .
31 Frank Argote-Freyre, “Swastika Incident Not Considered Anti-Semitic Act ”
Asbury Park Press (23 July 1989).
32 Argote-Freyre, Op Cit .
33 “Acid Attack Puzzles Police: Sexton’s Story Stirs Questions,” Milwaukee
Journal (8 December l985)
34 Op Cit
35 Op Cit.
36 Editorial, “Synagogue Incident is Shocking,” Milwaukee Journal (11 December
1985).
37 Jay Anderson, “Several Suspected in Synagogue Case,” Milwaukee Journal (24
July 1984):
Alicia Armstrong, Vandals Strike at Jewish Center,” Milwaukee Journal (Z7
July 1985).
38 “Vandalized Apartment is Latest Attack on Sexton,” Milwaukee Journal ( 2o
December 1985)
39 “Brother Says Sexton Was Depressed, ” Milwaukee Journal (16 May 1986);
“Additional Tests Ordered On Cause of Sexton’s Death,” Milwaukee Journal (17 May
1986).
40 Lisa S. Lenkiewicz, “Woodside Rebuilds, Arsonist ‘Unknown’ But Still At
Large,” Washington Jewish Week (6 August 1987).
41 National Center, Jewish Youth Arrested In swastika Fire,” New York Daily
News (29 August 1979): United Press International, “Dog Stirs Swastika Burning”
(April 1980).
42 Garth Wolkoff, “Hate Crimes Damaging Health of Concord Man,” Northern
California Jewish Bullet] 6 September 1991.
43 Wolkoff, Op Cit.
44 Wolkoff, Op Cit.
45 Robert J. Lopez , “Alleged Harassment Victim Says He Wrote Some Hate Letters
Himself ,” Qakland Tribune ( 12 September 1991 ) .
46 Garth Wolkoff, “Concord Man Admits Fabricating Anti-Semitic Attacks,”
Northern California Jewish Bulletin (20 September 1991 ) .
47 Wolkoff, Op Cit .
48 David Mills, “Man Ordered To Trial In Hate-Crime Hoax,” West County Vines, (
17 January 1992 ) .
49 Garth Wolkoff, “Man Who Faked Hate Crimes Gets Year In County Jail, ”
Northern California Jewish Bulletin ( 17 July 1992 ) .
50 Christine Vendel, Jewish Student Placed Anti-Semitic Notes, Police Say,”
Kansas City Star (11 February 1994).
51 Vendel, Op Cit.
52 Julie Hutchinson, “Ex-Firefighter Pleads No Contest to Arson,” Oily C=era (15
April 1992).
53 “Youths Charged in Burglary Case,” Chicago Tribune (7 February 1994 ) .
54 George Ramos, “Security Firm Owner Arrested In Vandalism,” Los Angeles Times
( 8 June 1991 )
55 “Woman Faked Hate Crime to Collect Insurance, Police Say,” Chicago Tribune (
2 January 1994 ) .
56 Op Cit
57 Mark Brown, Swastikas In Denver: Isolated Incidents, or Worse?” Rocky
Mountain News (13 June 199n).
58 Justin Amole, “Pena orders Investigation of Racist Acts . ” Rocky Mountain
News ( 14 June 1990 ) .
59 Kevin Flynn, “Hate Crime Hoaxes: Lies Sabotage The Battle For Racial
Justice,” Rocky Mountain News (23 December 1990).
60 Enrique J. Gonzales, “Vandalised: Jewish Family Finds Clue, But still in
‘State of Shock,”‘ Washington Times (23 March 1991 ) .
61 peter Kelly, “500 To Clean Up Vandalized Home,” Montgomery Journal ( 28 March
1991 ) .
62 Larry Witham, “Vandals’ Victims Refuse to Relocate.” Washington Times ( 29
March 1991) .
63 Witham, Op Cit.
64 Joanna Shuman, “Kleins Maintain Their Innocence in Hate Crime,” Montgomery
Gazette (10 April 1991).
65 Arlo Wagner, “Hate Victim Charged as Fake, i’ Washington Times{les (17 July
1991); Retha Hill, “‘Hate Crime Victim now The Accused,” Washington Times (17
July 1991).
66 Arlo Wagner, “Homeowner-Vandal Case Isn’t Proven, Lawyer says, ” Washington
Times ( 27 September 1991 ) .
67 Arlo Wagner, “Man Acquitted on Charges He Vandalized His Own Home, ”
Washington Times ( 1 October 199l ) .
68 Arlo Wagner, “Man Acquitted of vandalising Own Home also Freed on Theft,”
Washington Times (9 October 1991).
69 Arlo Wagner, “Couple Reports anti-Semite Acts for Second Time,” Washington
Times (12 June 1992).
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This is the first of 4 files. Jeff sent me this scanned in text recently. There
are a few mistakes in the scanning but footnotes are given and full citations.
This excellent study, by American leftist Laird Wilcox, demonstrates conclusively
how lies and duplicity by vested interests – many of whom are forever denouncing
majority members as “racists” and bigots – play a major role in fermenting
racial unrest. They have also, in Britain at any rate, succeeded in perverting
the rule of law by their unremitting campaign of lies and hatred, primarily by
excluding all opponents of their lies by branding them fascists, ad nauseum.
When one studies literature such as this, one realises exactly why these people
are so terrified of the truth about the Holocaust coming out. They’ve been
caught with their hands in the till and they know full well that the day of
reckoning is coming.
CRYING WOLF by Laird Wilcox
Chapter 6
Jews
There can be no question that faked anti-Semitic hate crimes are a cause for
grief and consternation in the Jewish community. Jewish concern with persecution
is justifiable. Deep-rooted Jewish sensitivity to anti-Semitism makes hoaxes
committed by Jews particularly shocking.
These hoaxes are almost always the product of individuals seeking to achieve a
sense of importance through victimhood, to advance a particular agenda to seek
monetary advantages through insurance claims or damage settlements, or perhaps
more commonly, juveniles engaged in pranks
One issue that needs to be addressed is whether or not there’s an or-ganized
campaign to commit racist and anti-Semitic hoaxes. For years rumours have
circulated that a particular organisation has been engaged in this activity.
Right wingers are particularly fond of this notion in that it tends to confirm
their conspiracy theories about the group.
It’s important to avoid paranoid thinking on this issue, and to reject the kind
of reasoning that suggests that every disturbing-event must have a “plot” of
some kind behind it, and a series of such events must he the pro-duct of a
planned conspiracy. Extremists on both sides of this issue tend to think in
these terms with predictably unfortunate results. I found no credible, hard
evidence of a bona fide conspiracy or organized campaign to commit anti-Semitic
hoaxes. The best evidence is that these hoax incidents are un connected and the
product of individuals and not of organisations
I don’t think a conspiracy is required to explain a pattern of anti-Semitic
hoaxes. In addition to the psychological pleasures of victimhood the advantages
to Jewish activists and anti-racists of anti-Semitic incidents are obvious, so
much so that it would reasonably occur to potential hoaxes upon simple
reflection, with no communication between them; “Who benefits from mindless acts
of anti-Semitic graffiti and vandalism is there for all to see, and it is most
assuredly not anti-Semites.
Some hoaxes have involved “plots,” in a manner of speaking, and several of them
have involved recognisable “conspiracies” to commit the particular hoax, but
linkage with other hoaxes is very unlikely, except in the limited psychological
sense of the “copy-cat” phenomenon. This “copy-cat effect is important,
however, because it can account for not only bona fide racial and anti-Semitic
incidents, but for additional hoaxes as w 19;g
On the other hand, there is some evidence of a deliberate effort to cover up or
minimise incidents that prove to be hoaxes usually to avoid “giving anti-Semites
ammunition, in the words of one journal i st I have encountered several cases
where the news coverage of an incident was explicitly minimized once it was
discovered to be a hoax. This, of course is what is known as ” spin control” and
some anti-racist and “human rights” groups are pretty good at it. The number of
publicised hoaxes, such as those documented in this report, is undoubtedly only
a small fraction of those that, actually occur.
Even the rich and famous are not immune to anti-Semitic hoaxes. No less of a
personage than Morton Downey, Jr., was caught in such a fabrication in May,
l989. Downey claimed that he had been accosted by either one, two or three
“neo-Nazi skinheads” in the men’s restroom at the San Francisco Air-port. They
then “pinned him against a toilet stall, drew a swastika on his face and cut a
small swatch from his scalp.” According td Downey, they then gave the Nazi “Sieg
Heil” salute and left- According to NEWSWEEK magazine
“Airport police weren’t buying it. Officers on the scene said Downey only had a
couple of lines on his face — not the full swastika he displayed to the press
— and none of the dozen or so people near the bathroom saw anything. Said an
airport sergeant, “Draw your own conclusions.”
Downey later admitted that the incident “was publicity and it was pre-arranged.
One of Downey’s former producers at WWDR-TV in San Francisco said, “Morton knew
his show was in trouble and he was trying to make a splash in the San Francisco
market.”
Swastikas, while regarded as specific to anti-Semitism, have become a universal
symbol of racism and ethnic bigotry. In San Francisco, two non-Jewish minority
fire inspectors reported finding a “wooden plaque with a swastika painted on it”
in their office in January, 1988. A- San Francisco Chronicle account reported,
“Their discovery was deemed a striking instance of racial harassment in the
troubled department and Red to the resig-nation of Fire Chief Edward Phipps.” 5
The incident was troubling in other respects as well. Fire Captain Michael
McKinley found “certain contradictions and inaccuracies” in state-ments given by
fire inspectors Walter Batiste and David Sun. He asked them to submit to a
polygraph machine. He said that “key witnesses” who disputed their statements
have passed lie-detector tests.
Batiste and Sun were granted disability leave “for stress” since they allegedly
found the plaque. Captain McKinley said they had been sent Regis-tered letters
asking them to come back for more questioning, but neither replied. The men
sought the assistance of private attorneys in the matter, and the case dropped
>from public view. 6
1n New York City, residents of Co-Op City, a massive housing cooperative in the
Bronx, found anti-Semitic graffiti and swastikas daubed on 51 apart-ment doors
and walls in March 1984. The incident received wide publicity, including
comparisons with Nazi Germany. A S3,500 reward was offered for the perpetrators.
Later, two Jewish teenagers tried to collect the reward by turning in someone
else and were arrested. The two youths, aged 14 and 15, were charged as
juveniles with conspiracy, criminal mischief and falsely reporting a police
incident They are also suspected of other racist and anti-Semitic
incidents dating back over a several month period, all of which had been
attributed to “racists.” As usual, the crimes received far more attention than
the revelations of fraud.
On July 15, 1987 a Rockville, Maryland Jewish woman and her Roman Catholic
husband awoke at 4:45 AM to find a fire in the shape of a swastika burning on
their lawn. Neo-Nazis, skinheads and Ku Klux Klansmen were widely speculated as
the perpetrators responsible for the outrage.
Elyse Rothschild of the Montgomery County Human Rights Commission spoke of the
fire as an “act of terror” and said that
“…there has to be an outcry from everybody in the country that we will not
tolerate that type of behavior; it is to-tally not acceptable.”
Lt. Carvel Harding, the Montgomery County fire Marshall, reported that the
perpetrator came forward and confessed at the urging of his father. Gary L.
Stein, a 19-year-old Jewish man, confessed to the crime and implicated a
long-time friend, John F. Finnegan, as the actual perpetrator. According to
Harding, Stein claimed that “his buddy did it. 29
On July 1989 the Asbury Park Press (NJ) reported that two unnamed Jewish
teenagers had been arrested on the morning of July 15th for throwing
fire-crackers at passing cars. The two youths were apprehended after a chase.
A subsequent investigation quickly linked them to an incident in which swastikas
and anti-Semitic remarks were painted on a home and a car, accord-ing to
Marlboro Township police. The two were charged with seven counts of criminal
mischief, four counts of burglary and two counts of theft. Mark Grainer,
president of Temple Rodelph Torah of Western Monmouth, remarked
“There is enough anti-semitism from non-Jews. I would hope people brought up in
a Jewish home would protect the religion Something obviously went wrong…” u
Had the swastika painting and anti-Semitic graffiti been the act of non-Jews,
the incident would certainly been prosecuted as a “hate crime. ” This was not
done, however. According to Detective Sgt. Robert Holmes, “It’s tough to prove
their actions are anti-Semitic if they are both Jewish.” The Asbury Park Press
quoted unnamed “community leaders and scholars familiar with anti-Semitism to
the effect that the teenagers “probably acted out of personal reasons rather
than religious hatred.” .
Jackson Toby, director of the Institute for Criminological Research at Rutgers
University, noted that the incidents might have been motivated by an attempt to
“arouse” and “blow the minds” of the local Jewish community. He added, .if you
want to get people excited, start talking about prejudice and racism.”
The Anti Defamation League itself may have been party to a significant
misrepresentation on the cover of a 1985 issue of the ADL Bulletin where a cover
photograph designated “Desecration of a Jewish home in Kings Point, NY” was
clearly a fake. The swastika depicted does not follow the contours of the
paneled door and appears to stand out and away from it. It was painted onto a
photo or a transparency and then rephotographed. The issue of the Bulletin also
featured a major article entitled, “Anti-Semitic Vandalism: 2-Year Trend
Reversed.” The article noted that California, with a population of 23,000,000
had experienced 99 incidents in 1984, or one incident per Z30,000 citizens. 1
In February 1994, the ADL was involved in a major hoax controversy when Donald
Mintz, a member of the ADL’s National Commission and candidate for Mayor of New
Orleans, was accused of creating and distributing openly racist and anti-semitic
flyers in order to create sympathy for his candidacy and raise funds for the
election. The Net York Times reporter’ that
“A main Mintz advisor has been charged with a misdemeanor count accusing him of
trying to distribute some of the fliers . . .
An investigation by the (New Orleans) Human Relations Com-mission issued a
preliminary report concluding that at least two of the fliers ‘originated in the
Mintz campaign. 2
Mintz “vigorously denied” that he or anyone in his campaign was responsible for
the fliers. He conceded, however, that his campaign had mailed thousands of the
fliers to Jews throughout the nation in a fund-raising ef-fort. Bob Tucker,
campaign manager for Mintz’s opponent, Ernest Morial said “Mr. Mintz
self-inflicted a racial wound where there was none, and he did it to raise funds
nationally.”3 Mintz subsequently lost the election.
Laurie A. Recht, 35, a legal secretary, vigorously supported court-ordered
desegregation in Yonkers, New York, at a City Council meeting in January, 1988.
She was heckled and booed by many of the 800 people attending the meeting. A few
days later Recht, who is Jewish, began reporting death threats. As a consequence
of wide media coverage of her alleged victimization, Recht became a media
heroine for her courage and determination in the face of racist attacks.
In May, 1988 she was awarded an honorary Doctor of Humane Letters degree by the
College of New Rochelle in recognition of her victimisation She told friends
that she had received encouragement and support from all over and had even been
offered a scholarship to attend law school at Touro College. Ms. Recht became a
very important lady.
“Nigger Lover, Jew / We haven’t Forgot you / We will show the world our cause
with your corpse / a bullet waits for you.”
Unbeknown to Ms. Recht the F.B.I. had installed a TV camera outside her
apartment and attached security equipment to her telephone line to catch the
perpetrators. The equipment showed that no threatening calls had been re-ceived,
and the hidden camera recorded Ms. Recht writing the racist and anti-Semitic
threat on the wall next to her own apartment.
Recht admitted in court to lying to FBI agents. She faced a potential sentence
of 5 years in prison and a $Z50,000 fine. Instead she received 5 years
probation, no jail time, no fine.
A November 24, 1985 Associated Press dispatch from New York City reported,
“Vandals threw rocks through windows of eight Jewish-owned shops….Mayor Edward
Koch said the city would offer $10,000 reward . . . ”
.:
The Jewish Community Relations Council offered a 55,000 reward as well. The
windows were broken in the predominantly Orthodox Jewish areas of Boro Park and
Flatbush in Brooklyn. Two weeks later, windows in another seven stores were
broken in the enclave of 100,000 orthodox Jews and 300 synagogues .
Newspapers around the nation reacted with shock and outrage and com-pared the
incident to Kristallnacht, when Nazis terrorized Jews in pre-World War II
Germany, even though no swastikas or anti-Semitic graffiti were found on the
buildings. Pressure from the Jewish Community brought increased police patrols
and calls for greater vigilance against anti-Semitism, al-though no
anti-Semitism had been proven. Nine of the twelve detectives in the police
department’s “bias” unit had been assigned to the case.
Within two weeks Mordechai Levy, leader of the Jewish Defense Organisation, a
militant zionist group with a reputation for terrorism, announced that the group
was organizing night patrols. However, -on December 5th the mystery was solved.
According to press reports,
“A 38-year-old Jewish man with a history of psychological problems was arrested
in connection with the smashing of windows of Jewish-owned shops in the Borough
Park and Flat-bush sections of Brooklyn.” u
Police had arrested Gary Dworkin, who lived nearby — on 43rd St in Brooklyn. He
was subsequently charged with 13 counts of criminal mischief, some of which were
felonies, including one count of discrimination. Media accounts emphasized his
“emotional instability,” implying that that was the reason for his behavior.
Brooklyn District Attorney Elizabeth Holtzman is-sued a statement that his
vandalism was directed at Israelis and Hasidic Jews . 1 l
The Anti-Defamation League had been in the forefront in support of Ms. Recht. In
November, 1988 she once again reported a death threat on the tele-phone, and
claimed to have found racist and anti-Semitic graffiti near her apartment door .
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In February 1979, one “Michael James Guttman” applied for a permit to hold a
neo-Nazi rally in the shadow of Philadelphia’s independence Hall. Guttman
claimed the “National Socialist White People’s Party,” would provide its own
protection if police didn’t.
The application, reported in the Philadelphia daily News, created a enormous
stir in the city’s Jewish community, one of the largest in the nation. According
to the News the application stated that signs reading “Hitler Was Right” and
“Gas Commie Jews” would be shown, and that the avowed purpose of the rally was
to “show the world niggers and Jews are cowards.” The News also reported that
“The Jewish Defense League had announced last week that it would meet force with
force.” Two days later the Park Service rescinded the permit.
“According to the terms of an agreement reached with attorneys representing
survivors of the Holocaust who had challenged the permit in a Federal court
hearing here, the per-mit was withdrawn when the man who received it, identified
as James Guttman, could not be found to testify today. 13
An investigation revealed that the man posing as James Guttman may have been
using a stolen identification card. Philadelphia police said that Mordechai
Levy, associated with the Jewish Defense League, had once been ar-rested in New
York City using information from this same stolen card.
In August, I983, a series of fires in West Hartford, Connecticut terrorised the
Jewish community and evoked media comparisons with the “Night Of Broken Glass”
when Nazis terrorized Jews in pre-World War II Germany. Fires were set at Young
Israel Synagogue, the Emmanual Synagogue, and the home of Rabbi Soloman Krupka.
In September, the home of Connecticut State Represent-ative Joan Kemler, who is
Jewish, was set on fire. Kemler had spoken out against the unknown perpetrator
of the three previous fires.
Police involvement in the matter was intense. Nationwide media attention focused
on the incident, which had launched several legislative proposals to curb
“bigotry and violence.” Police Chief Francis Reynolds doubled patrols in the
predominantly Jewish section of town. West Hartford Mayor Charles R. Matties
announced a $508000 reward. Indeed, police staked out entire square blocks of
West Hartford, hoping to charge someone with arson. 15
An article by Barbara Sullivan in the Chicago Tribune was typical of the
coverage. She quoted an “elderly, white-haired woman” who sobbed, I had
relatives in the Holocaust; I never thought I’d see this happen again.” Scott
Feigelstein of the Connecticut Regional Office of th-e Anti-defamation League is
quoted as saying
“We have to be realistic because of our history, we have to take utmost
caution…Perhaps good has come out of all this, because it’s drawn people
together, but how sad it’s come from something too horrible. 16
The Jewish Defense League announced they would have armed patrols operating
in West Hartford. The Hartford Courant published an apology for their
“insensitive” coverage of this and another incident, in which an anti-Semitic
note was found on the doorstep of a West Hartford home. The paper
editorial-ized,
“The Courant, for its part, must continue to walk that delicate line between
informing the public and not playing into the arsonist’s hand…The paper must
be careful not to in-flame an already touchy situation .
An early suspect in the case was Barry Dov Schuss, a 17-year old Jewish student.
An FBI psychological profile of the arsonist clearly pointed to Schuss, as did
several other indicators.
Finally, on December 14th, newspapers reported that Schuss had confess-ed to all
four arsons. In fact, Schuss had confessed to his rabbi, Solomon Krupka, several
days before his family or the police were notified. Krupka claimed that the
relationship between a clergyman and * congregant is privileged. Krupka
disavowed any responsibility for not notifying the police, which would have
saved taxpayers thousands of dollars and calmed tense nerves .
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: truer than true testimony
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> The nazi-boys are claiming these testimonies were given
> about Belsen, but this is untrue.
>
> Giwer doesn’t give any sources, though, so it’s impossible to
> check this.
You’re wrong again Dan. He gives History of World War II which checks out.
I recently looked up the Moshe Peer claim in the Montreal Gazette, that checks out.
as does the claim from the Rothchild book. Much other rubbish was given at and
about Belsen, but you know that already, don’t you?
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From: Alexander Baron
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Michael P. Stein” writes:
> >> Mr. Giwer is trading on the unstated idea that anyplace with a gas
> >>chamber is, automatically, an “extermination camp.” That is false. Thus
> >>there is no logical connection between what Wiesenthal said and the state
> >>of affairs at Buchenwald – whatever evidence there is or isn’t for a gas
> >>chamber there, Wiesenthsl’s statement is irrelevant to that discussion.
> >>Mr. Giwer is merely trolling once atain.
> >
> > Then complain to Wiesenthal not me.
> >
> > He is the one lying in this case.
Shame on you Mr Stein, you have read my documentation of the lies of
Organised Jewry about the Dachau “gas chamber”.
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] writes:
> Below is a list of the primary Bolshevek revolution leaders, and their
> birth names, that can be found in most any good encyclopedia should
> anyone care to confirm it themselves:
> Name (Real Name) Nationality
> Lenin Ulyanov Rus/Jewish
> Trotsky Bronstein Jewish
> Martoff Zederbaum Jewish
> Zinoviev Apfelbaum Jewish
> Steckloff Nakhames Jewish
> Kamenov Rosenfeld(t) Jewish
> Dan Gourevitch Jewish
> Ganetzky Furstenberg Jewish
> Parvus Helpfand Jewish
> Uritzky Padonilsky Jewish
> Larin Lurge Jewish
> Bohrin Nathansohn Jewish
> Martinoff Zibar Jewish
> Bogdanoff Zilberstein Jewish
> Garin Garfeld Jewish
> Suchanoff Gimel Jewish
> Kamnelff Goldman Jewish
> Sagersky Krochmann Jewish
> Riazanoff Goldenbach Jewish
> Solutezeff Bleichmann Jewish
> Piatnitzky Ziwin Jewish
> Axelrod Orthodox Jewish
> Glasnuoff Schultze Jewish
> Zuriesain Weinstein Jewish
> Lapinsky Loewensohn Jewish
>
> After Reading the above, there can be no question at to the role of
> the Khazarian Jewish Communists in the Bolshevik Revolution which
> overthrew Christian Russia.
Oh dear, some of the above were not only not Jewish they were not even
Bolsheviks. Martov – not Martoff – for instance – was a Menshevik and wanted
the Bolsheviks thrown out of the Party.
> Further confirmation is given by the “_The American Hebrew_” as
> follows:
>
> “The Bolshevist Revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish
> brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning whose goal is to
> create a _new order_ in the world. What was performed in so excellent
> a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish
> dissatisfaction, and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same
> Jewish mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the
> world.”
I believe this quote is a fake; give a full citation for it, issue and page.
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From: Alexander Baron
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Some time ago Dan Keren said rather optimistically that although
there $must$ be some false Holocaust testimonies he had never seen
one, not one, that was patently dishonest and fraudulent. Just
for you Dan I have itemised a thoroughly documented tissue of
lies, in the letter below. My assertion is that all Holocaust
$survivor$ testimony is like this: when it mentions gassings it is
worthless, when it has some value it does not support the Holo-
caust claims. All I want from you though Dan is an admission that
Jews lie about the Holocaust, they do it frequently, shamelessly
and without being taken to task by the gulible goyim. Except
“anti-Semites” like us Revisionists of course.
The publisher of Gena Turgel’s book has now had over a month to
reply to this letter but no reply has been forthcoming and almost
certainly won’t be. Why do you think that is Dan?
By the way, there is a lot more where this came from, but you will have
to wait a while for it.
93c Venner Road,
Sydenham,
London SE26 5HU.
0181 659 7713
May 18, 1996,
Dear Sir or Madam,
I am writing to you in connection with the book $I Light a Candle$,
which was published by Grafton in 1988. I read this book only
late last year but though it is now “old hat” so to speak I feel
obliged to point out a number of gross historical errors, distor-
tions and outright lies in the text which I am sure that as a
respected and reputable publisher you will want to correct for
any subsequent edition. These errors, distortions and lies are
attributable both to Mrs Turgel and to her husband. I will deal
with the latter first.
In $Norman’s Chapter$ which starts on page 135, he reports canni-
balism in Belsen, which is unquestionably true; this was reported
by both inmates and staff – eg the British survivor, the Jersey
schoolteacher Mr Harold Osmond Le Druillenec, and by the Comman-
dant, Josef Kramer. Unfortunately, this is about the only thing
in this chapter which is true.
Mr Turgel reports on pages 135-6 that “The first person I ar-
rested was Josef Kramer, the camp commandant”. Then he reports
that he locked Kramer in a refrigerator for 24 hours, interroga-
ted him and made out the arrest warrant! The true facts about the
surrender of Belsen concentration camp are well documented and
easily checkable; they can be found in the WO 235 series files of
the War Office which are held at the Public Record Office.
The first British soldier to enter Belsen was Lieutenant (later
Captain) Derrick A. Sington, who published a book on his exper-
iences, $Belsen Uncovered$, in 1946. A chapter of this book was
later republished as a chapter of a 1957 study published in
Israel, $Belsen$. With Sington were Sergeant Eric Clyne and Lance
Corporal Sidney Roberts; they entered the camp on April 15, 1945
and stayed until August. They were sent to the camp because
between them they spoke five European languages. Prior to the
liberation, two German colonels accompanied by some Hungarian
soldiers had turned up at the British lines with a white flag and
informed them of the typhus epidemic raging at the camp.
Mr Turgel gives the impression that he was in charge of this
operation, yet he was a mere sergeant. The man who actually ran
the show was Brigadier H.L. Glyn Hughes, Chief Medical Officer of
the 2nd Army. Like Sington he gave evidence at the Belsen Trial
at Luneberg. Norman Turgel did not give evidence at this trial;
his name is not even listed in the $Times$ index for April 1945.
When Commandant Kramer was met by the British he was certainly
not thrown into a refrigerator, rather he was ordered to show the
liberating army around the camp. According to Mr Turgel’s report
he seems personally to have arrested half the staff of the camp
single-handedly. If anyone can be said to have arrested Kramer it
was Sington, or Lieutenant-Colonel Taylor, the latter who placed
him under close arrest on the evening of April 15th. Kramer was
then placed in a dark, concrete floored cell without blankets. He
was subsequently exhibited to the world as the “Beast of Belsen”.
On pages 154-5, Mr Turgel says that about 75% of the SS staff of
Belsen were hanged, including most of the women guards, and that
some were sentenced from 10 years to life.
The facts are that most of the staff had already deserted by the
time the British arrived, over a dozen died of typhus after the
liberation and at least two SS men were shot while trying to
escape. Typhus was rampant, most of the inmates were starving,
and the few remaining staff prior to the surrender had great
difficulty keeping order. It was undoubtedly this which was
partially responsible for many of the brutalities reported in the
last few weeks of the war, although this in no sense excuses
them.
According to Public Record Office file WO 235/12 – which is
unquestionably far more reliable than Mr Turgel – there were 48
accused in all at the main Belsen trial, although only 45 stood
trial. The charges related to both Belsen and the Auschwitz
camps. There were 11 death sentences and 14 acquittals. There was
no finding against one defendant due to illness, while Zoddel,
defendant number 19, was sentenced to death for another crime and
executed. Of those gaoled for their crimes, all but two had been
released by 1954 – the year this report was written – and the
last two were scheduled for release the following year. Not all
those tried were SS staff; Oscar Schmedidtz alias Schmitz was a
petty criminal and inmate who ended up in the dock because he had
donned an SS uniform after being abused by other inmates when the
camp was surrendered (on account of his German nationality). He
was acquitted. Twelve of those on trial were former Kapos, (ie
prisoners).
I have found nothing to support Mr Turgel’s claim that a bag of
ground glass was found in the kitchen which was used to doctor
inmates’ soup, and doubt very much that this has any basis in
fact. The claim that Kramer had made lampshades from human skin
is also utter nonsense. Mr Turgel says he was told this, which
may be true, but he is probably confusing Kramer with Karl Koch,
the Commandant of Buchenwald camp.
Koch and his wife were depraved individuals. He was said to have
been a homosexual and she a whore. In August 1943, he was ar-
rested on fraud, embezzlement and “other charges” and was actual-
ly executed by the SS in April 1945. A number of tattooed skins –
possibly grisly mementos – were found after the war at Buchenwald
camp, so too were a couple of shrunken heads. All this is rather
academic though because nothing like this was found at Belsen,
which was actually started as a camp for privileged Jews before
becoming a camp for sick people, and although the Nazis carried
out medical experiments on inmates in selected camps which have
rightly been described as “murderous science”, there is no evi-
dence that they commissioned lampshades or any other artifacts
>from human skin.
On page 149, Mr Turgel claims to have arrested Josef Keindel, the
Commandant of Oranienburg; is there any leading Nazi this valiant
war hero didn’t arrest?
Finally, on page 203 of the $Epilogue$, Mr Turgel has the nerve to
claim that “there should be much more emphasis on history in
Britain’s schools, for the benefit of the younger generation.” I
cannot but agree.
Unfortunately, Mr Turgel’s lies have spilt over into at least one
other publication. In his 1994 book $Giles At War$, Peter Tory
reports that Kramer was arrested by a Jewish sergeant named
Norman Turgel; again, this is patent nonsense. In this book it is
claimed too that Kramer was a fan of Giles – the long-serving
$Daily Express$ cartoonist. Giles is supposed to have met him –
which may be true, and Kramer to have addressed him in English,
which is doubtful. In fact, coverage of Belsen by the $Daily
Express$ in April 1945 is rather disappointing. I wrote to Mr Tory
about this but never received a reply.
Returning to Mr Turgel, his outrageous lies are compounded by his
wife’s fantasies. On page 52 she says that “we knew that Belsen
was a $Vernichtungslager$ (extermination camp).” $She$ may have known
this but no historian who knows anything about the Second World
War would make any such claim.
On pages 106-8, Mrs Turgel claims to have been inside a gas
chamber at Auschwitz and gives a lengthy description of her
alleged ordeal. I seem to recall seeing her on TV a few years ago
making the same claim; this was probably after the publication of
her (largely ghost written) book. Mrs Turgel was so obviously
inside an ordinary shower that one wonders why this ridiculous
passage was included, if not to attempt to discredit so-called
Holocaust deniers. On page 127 she says that Dr Mengele moved to
Belsen. This is nonsense.
According to the $Encyclopedia of the Holocaust$, Mengele was
transferred to Mauthausen on the evacuation of Auschwitz but all
trace of him was lost after May 5, 1945, the date of the liber-
ation of the camp. Another source claims that he was arrested in
June 1945 but posed as a soldier, although using his own name. As
you undoubtedly know, he was never caught, but is believed to
have died in 1979 in Brazil, where he had been living for years
in anonymous poverty. Whatever happened to Dr Mengele at the end
of the war, he certainly never went to Belsen.
On page 133 Mrs Turgel reports that “Anne Frank was in my bar-
rack. She was already at Belsen when I arrived and lay a few
bunks away from me, dying from typhus. I can remember so clearly
my mother telling me about this Dutch girl in the barrack who had
apparently written a diary. Other people were talking about it,
too, and whispering and $shushing$ because they knew she was dying.
She had had to leave the diary behind in Holland.”
It is not impossible that Anne Frank was in Mrs Turgel’s barrack,
but her claim about the diary is obvious nonsense; Anne Frank
died in anonymity, and although she may well have intended to
publish the diary herself, it is difficult to credit that a girl
of her age, separated from her family, alone, frightened, and
dying of a terrible wasting disease, would have had this on her
mind above all else. It is even more difficult to believe that
any of her fellow inmates would have had the slightest interest
in either the diary or her, at least no more so than in any other
young girl dying of typhus, because there was no shortage of them
in Belsen at this time.
Anne Frank’s diary was found by Miep Gies, who had helped hide
the Frank family; when Otto Frank returned home after the war and
learned that his daughters were dead, she gave him the diary.
According to Professor Deborah Lipstadt, the diary was turned
down by a number of publishers; (even after it was published in
Europe it was rejected by no less than ten American publishers);
it was only through Otto Frank’s persistence that it saw the
light of day. Incidentally, the reason Anne and her family were
in hiding does tend to detract somewhat from the romance of the
story. Again, according to the $Encyclopedia of the Holocaust$, the
Franks went into hiding when Anne’s elder sister was called up
for forced labour.
Finally, although Mrs Turgel may well have been a Belsen bride,
she was by no means $the$ bride of Belsen. The aforementioned 1957
study refers to several marriages in the camp, which is hardly
surprising because many thousands of prisoners of both sexes sur-
vived, and the camp remained opened until 1950. However, the name
Turgel appears nowhere in the index to this book any more than in
the relevant $Times$ index.
Even more curiously, I could find no mention of Mrs Turgel’s
marriage in the $Jewish Chronicle$. She claims to have been married
at Lubeck synagogue on October 7, 1945. I checked this at St.
Catherine’s House, and sure enough, Norman Turgel and Gena Gold-
finger were indeed married at Lubeck, if not on that date then in
that quarter. However, her claim that she arrived in Britain on
November 10, 1945 to “A crowd of photographers and reporters” who
were waiting just for her, ‘the bride from Belsen’ appears like-
wise to be untrue. One would expect this to be reported in the
$Jewish Chronicle$ if in no other newspaper, but as with the $Times$
I could find no mention either of her marriage or of her coming
to England.
Just as curiously, she is not mentioned at all in the 1958 book
by Rabbi Leslie Hardman. $THE SURVIVORS: The story of the Belsen
remnant$, was actually “Told” by Leslie H. Hardman and written by
Cecily Goodman. Rabbi Hardman served at Belsen from the day after
the liberation.
He does report that another inmate “Dr Marta” (an obvious pseudo-
nym) had received a proposal of marriage from a British officer –
which he did his best to persuade her to refuse. On racial
grounds! I have a good idea who this “Dr Marta” really was and
will check it out in due course, but it was certainly not the
young Gena Goldfinger. On page 111 of his book Rabbi Hardman too
reports that there were a number of weddings in the camp, appar-
ently before that of the Turgels’.
One final point I would like to make. As well as marriages, there
appear to have been many relationships in Belsen – and presumably
other camps – which were extremely sordid.
In her book $I Was A Doctor In Auschwitz$, Gisella Perl, who ar-
rived at Belsen on March 7, 1945, reported open prostitution in
the camp: “there were some who sold their bodies for cigarettes,
chocolate and other small comforts.” According to her account,
liaisons between servicemen and female inmates were very common,
though one should not of course judge people harshly for acting
so in such terrible times. The one thing that can be said in Mrs
Turgel’s favour is that she rose far above this sort of thing and
remained happily married for over forty years.
Yours sincerely,
A Baron
—
Alexander Baron
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> These women were guards, not prostitutes. They worked for the SS.
> They got food because they weren’t considered “sub-human”.
Winwood (Kramer’s defence counsel): “The type of internee who came to these
concentration camps was a very low type, and I would go so far as to
say that by the time we got to Auschwitz and Belsen, the vast
majority of the inhabitants of the concentration camps were the
dregs of the Ghettoes of middle Europe.”
—
Alexander Baron
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From: Alexander Baron
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Venality In Academia: The Case Of Dr Roger Eatwell, And A Public
Statement By Alexander Baron
My name is Alexander Baron; I have been researching into the
supposedly so difficult subject of Holocaust Revisionism with my
limited resources and in a more or less ad hoc fashion since
1980. Over the past few years I have engaged in such research in
a more systematic fashion, including the occasional visit to the
Public Record Office, and, until I was banned, to the Wiener
Library.
Holocaust Revisionism is not my main forte; of the several
dozen publications I have churned out over the past few years –
many of them overlapping – the theme that runs through most of
them is the exposure of disinformation. Although I have no formal
academic training whatever, I have made quite a fair job of
textual analysis.
In 1991 I began researching the subject of anti-Jewish disin-
formation and propaganda, and more generally, anti-Semitic ideo-
logy, and have published, among other things, an expose of the
hatemongering of Eustace Mullins and a bibliography of the
$Protocols Of Zion$. Being totally non-partisan I have also
exposed lies and disinformation which emanate from Jewish and
crypto-Jewish sources. I was naive enough to believe that this
sort of thing would be welcomed by the Jewish Establishment. They
didn’t welcome it, and I paid a heavy price. Now I intend to make
sure that they too pay a heavy price.
In May 1993, after false, totally unjustified and quite mal-
icious allegations were made against me, I was arrested under the
$Public Order Act$. The two people most responsible for this were
Mike Whine, the so-called Defence Director of the so-called Board
of Deputies of British Jews, and a little shit of a journalist on
the $Jewish Chronicle$ named Julian Kossoff. The reader should
note that I do not rail at Jews or Jewish conspiracies in the
abstract but have named, and will name, specific individuals.
Whine in particular wilfully withheld information from the
police, and thanks principally to his efforts the police held
onto my property, including my computer, for six months. Also in
that time, Whine referred me to the Attorney General for publish-
ing a pamphlet which attacked his precious Israel. This was
ignored by the Attorney General because even under the ultra-
repressive “race relations” legislation that has been foisted
onto this country by the lies and deception of Whine and his ilk,
it is not considered an incitement to hatred under British law to
ask Jews not to send money to buy bullets for the murderers of
Palestinian children. Not yet, anyway.
Eventually, all my property was returned by the police and no
charges were brought against me. I say all my property was re-
turned, that’s not quite the whole story, but it will suffice for
now.
Not satisfied with his handiwork, Whine, and his hatemongering
co-racialist Neville Nagler, included one of my publications in a
booklet issued by the so-called Runnymede Commission on Anti-
Semitism. Here it was described as an example of anti-Zionist
rhetoric that is clearly anti-Semitic, and that in spite of its
having Rabbinic approval. On February 4, 1994, the $Jewish Chro-
nicle$ published another smear article on me. This was published
in the full knowledge that after a similar smear had been pub-
lished in another Jewish-owned publication, I had been the victim
of a mallet attack. Whine condoned this article, and indeed
contributed to it. I consider this article to be, at best, an
incitement to violence against me.
What have I done to earn the wrath of Organised Jewry? Two
things: one is that I exposed, or rather, stumbled across, one of
their prize assets, a prominent so-called fascist who is in
reality no such thing. Another is that I have consistently ex-
posed a Jewish-born con-man and hatemonger, and his organisation,
as ruthless exploiters and indeed fermenters of anti-Semitism and
racial hatred.
For legal reasons I cannot be more specific at this point in
time. I will say though that I have definite evidence that Whine,
the $Jewish Chronicle$ and others have been engaged in a grubby
little conspiracy against me. At one time I believed the Labour
MP Greville Janner to be a party to this; this was because people
whom I had good reason to believe to be his agents have been
involved in this affair up to their necks. It has subsequently
become apparent to me that these two men, one of them a lawyer,
have been acting without either his consent or his knowledge, and
I now have concrete evidence that they are instead agents of a
department of the Board of Deputies.
During the course of my researches into the Holocaust I corre-
sponded with a number of academics, posing as an interested if
ignorant member of the lay public. Which I am, except that I am
by no means as ignorant as I led them to believe. I was amazed at
the fruits this approach yielded, and have now decided to go
public. I wish to make it clear that I had not intended to do
this, because I realise that this information can be used for
ignoble purposes. The only reason I am doing so is because of the
persistent, Machiavellian scheming against me by Mike Whine and
his filthy little clique of Zionist Jews.
These are people who have not the slightest respect for truth,
and nothing but the utmost contempt for the rest of mankind. They
will lie with impunity about anyone who refuses to kiss the arse
of Imperial Zion, and it matters not that the lies are both
blatant and readily refuted. Furthermore, they are the enemies of
all races, including of Western Man, but especially of their own.
In June of this year the $Jewish Chronicle$, and indeed the
national media, reported two outrageous acts of vandalism against
Jewish cemeteries in East London and Humberside. By a remarkable
coincidence, this was about the same time that Whine announced
the setting up of a new so-called security organisation to combat
the menace of anti-Semitism, an ideology that would not give
anyone cause for concern but for the activities of him and his
kind. One can only wonder how many shekels these acts of (appar-
ently) senseless vandalism brought into Whine’s coffers. It
remains to be seen how many criminal acts which are apparently
the work of anti-Semites are in fact the work of Zionist $agents
provocateurs$. This is not innuendo but thoroughly documented
fact which dates from the activities of the Zionists who orga-
nised a terror campaign against Jews in Iraq in the 1950s, and
possibly a lot earlier.
Over a period of some months I received a series of letters
>from Dr Roger Eatwell of Bath University in which he as good as
admitted to me that he does not believe in the Holocaust. Dr
Eatwell admitted quite candidly, if after some pressure, that we,
the public and historians, have been fed a constant stream of
lies about the alleged gassings in the camps, and much more.
Two other academics I contacted were even more candid; I will
not give their names because I gave each of them an undertaking,
and, unlike Whine, honour means something to me. One of them told
me that he believed the stories of mass gassings to be the big-
gest load of old bollocks ever invented, and told me that it is
well known if never mentioned that the Communists in particular
have forged countless documents attesting to the truth of the
Holocaust, including much perjured witness testimony. Many other
Gentile academics are of this opinion, and indeed, one or two
Jewish ones have their suspicions, but they too are afraid of
rocking the boat, and in particular of having their funding cut
off under pressure from damned liars and hatemongers like Mike
Whine.
Another, a Moslem academic, told me that the Holocaust is a
joke throughout the Islamic world, that no Moslem academic in his
right mind believes in it or has ever believed in it, and that
the only reason such organisations as the PLO pay lip service to
it is to avoid misinterpretation, in particular being smeared as
anti-Semites.
Ironically, although I have never taken the gassing claims
seriously, my own researches have recently led me to question
some of the Revisionist interpretations. Certainly I believe now
that a great deal of unauthorised killing went on in the camps,
probably all the camps. The question of whether there were any
gassings at all, albeit on a small scale, I have not yet re-
solved. I certainly believe this to have been possible; the
Jewish Holocaust Revisionist David Cole has concluded that there
were indeed a number of such gassings, though not at Auschwitz.
Be that as it may, I have seen the sort of slime Mike Whine and
company are, the depths to which they will sink, and the way they
and their fellow travellers have exploited and continue to ex-
ploit this most tragic period of human history for the basest of
motives. I know from personal experience the lies they tell, and
the way they exploit anti-Semitism to give spurious credence to
these lies, in particular by instilling fear and loathing in the
$goyim$. It is for this reason, and only this reason, that I am
spilling the beans. Any anger persons of Jewish origin may feel
at the accompanying publication should be directed not at myself
but at Mike Whine, the $Jewish Chronicle$, and their fellow
conspirators, who include partners in two leading firms of London
solicitors.
This leaflet was written by Alexander Baron and was published,
printed and distributed in the United States of America by his
authorised agent. For legal reasons this leaflet cannot be dis-
tributed in the United Kingdom, and any such distribution is
carried out against my wishes and without my authority.
—
Alexander Baron
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From: Alexander Baron
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alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: New whopper of the week: Negroes invented Fire!
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Chuck Ferree” writes:
> Racist too, boy you’re some fellow human being.
> Same for you Baron, if you can prove your claim, do so, if not. I win.
> How’s the Queen?
Racist? I get it, if we don’t believe every race has the same innate capacity
for civilisation we’re gonna send them to the gas chambers? Right. My remark
is history, Chuck. If you have evidence of a written Negro language, please
adduce it.
—
Alexander Baron
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: The professor and his eyewitnesses
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 96 19:42:00 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “tom moran” writes:
> Professor Keren, of Brown University
Hey, Lincoln Rockwell’s alma mater, a man after Keren’s heart.
—
Alexander Baron
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: books
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Su Majewski” writes:
> PMFJI … (RJ, get the hell out of my seat!)
>
> Did Ayn Rand write the book “The Fountainhead”, which I understand was
> a little shameful for its day.
Don’t slag off Ayn Rand, if all Jews were like her anti-Semitism would be
an historic relic.
—
Alexander Baron
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: New whopper of the week: Negroes invented Fire!
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Ronald C. Schoedel” writes:
> Chuck Ferree wrote:
>
> >Bullshit, black people invented fire * * * Only racist dumb-shits say
> other-wise.
>
> Black people invented fire? I didn’t know it took human intervention to
> come up with natural phenomena. Who then invented the wind? Mexicans?
>
> We shall eagerly await your documented proof that negroes invented fire.
> THIS oughta be good!!!!! (rotfl!)
And I eagerly await your documentation that the Negro invented a written
language, a pre-requisite for any meaningful civilisation.
—
Alexander Baron
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From: Alexander Baron
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Ronald C. Schoedel” writes:
> Chuck Ferree wrote:
>
> >Bullshit, black people invented fire * * * Only racist dumb-shits say
> other-wise.
> Black people invented fire? I didn’t know it took human intervention to
> come up with natural phenomena. Who then invented the wind? Mexicans?
>
> We shall eagerly await your documented proof that negroes invented fire.
> THIS oughta be good!!!!! (rotfl!)
And I eagerly await your documentation that the Negro invented a written
language, a pre-requisite for any meaningful civilisation.
—
Alexander Baron
From [email protected] Wed Jun 26 16:43:50 PDT 1996
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In article
[email protected] “Craig J Neumeier” writes:
> > Fifth, eyewitnesses also had motivation, revenge.
Correct
> This is why I referred to the Nazis as well as the victims as
> eyewitnesses. It is hard to see what possible motivation Eichmann had
> for lying under oath to the Israeli court that tried him. (It is also
> odd that *not* *one* camp survivor agrees with the revisionists.)
Not true.
> Historians simply do not work this way. An enormous body of coherent
> evidence, from many different sources and more than one perspective,
> cannot be simply dismissed with vague references to the unreliability of
> eyewitnesses. If it could, we would be forced to disbelieve in, say, the
> English Civil War, let alone the existence of most major historical
> figures from Socrates to FDR.
What about all the witnesses to the UFO crash and subsequent cover-up at
Roswell?
—
Alexander Baron
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: truer than true testimony
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] writes:
> >The book “The Belsen Trial” contains the trial’s transcript.
> >That is a fact. There’s nothing you can do about it. It
> >contains the speeches of the prosecution and the defense,
> >the questions the witnesses were asked, and their answers,
> >as well as some affidavits.
It contains a very small quantity of an enormous amount of extremely
dubious testimony.
—
Alexander Baron
From [email protected] Thu Jun 27 07:33:00 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Starotska Testifies About Auschwitz
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 96 15:56:20 GMT
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Testimony of Stanislawa Starotska
> [Quoted in “The Belsen Trial” – Edited by R. Phillips, William Hodge and
> Company, 1949, page numbers follow]
> ———————————————————————–
> p. 418:
>
> Q. How was the Appell [roll-call] for selection for the gas chamber run?
>
> A. The doctor was present and he chose weak and sick people instead of
> healthy ones. My part was exactly the same as during the other
> parades. I had to keep order and see that everything was all right.
> I never helped the staff of the concentration camp during the
> selection for the gas chamebrs.
In the first place Dan you should read the full transcript of this woman’s
testimony. In the second place you forgot to mention that she was a defendant.
In the third place, don’t forget to mention the equally plausible testimony of
Irma Grese!
—
Alexander Baron
From [email protected] Thu Jun 27 07:33:01 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Baron exposes shameless Jewish Holocaust liars
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 96 16:26:13 GMT
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> But Baron is a “revisionist scholar”. So when he lies through his
> teeth, it’s a “mistake”. And he’s not, of course, a “damned liar”,
> or a “dumb Jew”, or whatever his favorite expression for that week is.
>
I have never claimed to be any sort of “scholar”. Your reference to my
“lying” is my misreading of a piece of text. I have only ever made one
such gaff in print and Mike Stein will confirm that this has been
corrected. Gena Turgel’s book is an account of someone who was there. And
I hardly think you can compare my misreading of Kitty Hart with her
husband’s claim that he arrested Kramer (and half the bloody Third Reich
apparently).
When do I get the admission Dan? Incidentally, the zero response to this letter
and other letters that I and other Revisionists have written makes a
“conspiracy” academic, doesn’t it? The stock response of academia is to assume
that Jews always tell the truth, are always honest (and accurate) and never
challenge anything they say. In other words, whatever they say goes. Bearing
that in mind it is hardly surprising that so much crap is written about the
Holocaust.
—
Alexander Baron
From [email protected] Thu Jun 27 20:58:23 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: MATT GIWER REPORT for Jun 1-9: 12.7% / 18.3%
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Michael P. Stein” writes:
> Excuse me, but I must be missing something. Other “revisionists” have
> posted here – Greg Raven, Tim McCarthy, Fritz Berg, Bradley Smith, Ross
> Vicksell, et al. And their claims have been addressed. They seem to have
> given it up. The only other ones currently left on any regular basis are
> J. F. Beaulieu, Tom Moran, Jeff Roberts, and Al Baron.
Much as Al Baron would like to spend hours a day replying to the twaddle in this
newsgroup he has other, more important things to do. Although I don’t comment
so much now I often find important leads here for research. From both sides.
—
Alexander Baron
From [email protected] Thu Jun 27 20:58:24 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Revisionist Week in Review, was (re GIWER REPORT, 6/10-13)
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 96 22:12:20 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “borowsky” writes:
> In article <[email protected]>
> [email protected] (DvdThomas) writes:
>
> >Ah, statistics!
>
> Speaking of which, it was interesting to compile a list of roughly equivalent
> stats from other contributors to the newsgroup.
> Contributor POSTS BATTED IN Comments
>
> Mark Van Alstine 88 Good effort, but still only
> Giwer’s output!
> Joebuck 38
>
> McVay 35
>
> Yale Edeiken 24
>
> Tom Moran 22 Lost much clout to G-man.
>
> Daniel Keren 15 Had 20 posts 6/14 alone!
>
> Jamie McCarthy 15
>
> Alexander Baron 5 Revisionism’s best accent silenced?
As with evidence, quality is far more important than quantity.
—
Alexander Baron
From [email protected] Fri Jun 28 07:18:54 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: soc.history.what-if,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Revisionism as a framework
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In article
[email protected] “Mark Van Alstine” writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > In article [email protected]
> > “Craig J Neumeier” writes:
>
> > > This is why I referred to the Nazis as well as the victims as
> > > eyewitnesses. It is hard to see what possible motivation Eichmann had
> > > for lying under oath to the Israeli court that tried him. (It is also
> > > odd that *not* *one* camp survivor agrees with the revisionists.)
> >
> > Not true.
Because there are plenty of survivors who didn’t witness gassings or who
passed through the camps totally unaware of them.
>
> Care to share you reason(s) for why this is “not true,” Al?
>
> > > Historians simply do not work this way. An enormous body of coherent
> > > evidence, from many different sources and more than one perspective,
> > > cannot be simply dismissed with vague references to the unreliability of
> > > eyewitnesses. If it could, we would be forced to disbelieve in, say, the
> > > English Civil War, let alone the existence of most major historical
> > > figures from Socrates to FDR.
> >
> > What about all the witnesses to the UFO crash and subsequent cover-up at
> > Roswell?
>
> Indeed, what about “them?” Do you, perhaps believe there is a shred of
> credibility here? Or are you simply flogging your “UFO = Holocaust” dead
> horse again for old time’s sake?
The UFONUTS make similar claims to the Exterminationists. They claim that
documents and hard evidence exist then fail to produce them.
—
Alexander Baron
From [email protected] Fri Jun 28 07:18:55 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: The professor and his eyewitnesses
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In article
[email protected] “Mark Van Alstine” writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > In article [email protected] “Daniel
> Keren” writes:
> >
> > > The 4 million figure was not based mainly on eyewitness testimony,
> > > but on a computation of how many corpses could have been cremated
> > > if the furnaces were working full time.
> > >
> > > It was an erroneous manner in which to estimate the number of
> > > the victims because, actually, the extermination machinery at
> > > Birkenau was idle at times, as a relatively small number of
> > > victims were being deported to the camp.
> >
> > Wrong.
>
> Wrong, Al? Care to support that curt “analysis?” Here, let me help you get
> your juices going by pointing you to:
The four million figure appeared in print as early as May 8, 1945. It has been
repeatedly mindlessly – and not so mindlessly – since. I have found one
reference to it based clearly on “eyewitness” testimony. Doubtless there are
others also.
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the accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: truer than true testimony
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Alexander Baron writes:
>
> # Have you studied the testimony of the Belsen trial?
>
> Yes.
>
> # Much of it was totally contradictory:
>
> Rubbish. You must mean that when you misquoted witnesses like
> Hoessler and Dr. Bendel as saying things they never said, there
> were contradictions?
No Dan, you have not studied the testimony, you have read the book.
>
> # the affidavits did not correspond with the evidence,
>
> Huh?
Compare what they said.
> # and almost everybody lied.
>
> You’re the one who quoted witnesses as saying things they never
> said. “Almost everybody lied”? Rubbish.
>
> # Furthermore, a lot of those on trial were not SS but prisoners,
> # including one Jewish inmate (who was acquitted).
>
> Some were inmates (“kapos”). I recall, however, that most were SS.
>
> # I got the impression that the convictions were given on the basis
> # of ordinary sorts of brutalities.
>
> If what you’re trying to say is that most of those convicted were
> accused of “ordinary” brutalities, that is true. Some, however, were
> accused of participating in the gas chamber selections. Kramer
> testified of personally conducting one gassing, but that was in
> Natzweiler, before he commanded Birkenau.
That was in his second affidavit. Read what Pressac says about this!
—
Alexander Baron
From [email protected] Fri Jun 28 07:18:57 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Lies and Damn Lies
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Alexander Baron writes:
>
> # I have now done further research on this and there were definitely
> # human skin artifacts.
>
> There you go. Now Giwer has to call Baron a holohugger.
>
> BTW, Koch went to prison for murdering German inmates, didn’t
> she? Her husband, as I recall, was executed by the SS for theft.
He was implicated in murder, including, I believe, that of an SS man.
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the accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
From [email protected] Fri Jun 28 10:40:00 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Where smoke and flame stories come from
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> The “revisionist argument” was summed up by one of the
> “revisionists” who was honest enough:
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> * I am an admirer of Adolf Hitler. I embrace National Socialism. I
> * would do so even if the Holocaust *were* fact, which I honestly
> * believe it is not. I would do so even if Hitler and his system
> * had killed *60* million Jews.
What about us Revisionists who don’t admire Adolf Hitler you lying little
scumbag? Yes, you Dan.
—
Alexander Baron
From [email protected] Sat Jun 29 13:21:09 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Nazi Arrested in California…
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected](BodyHammer) “BodyHammer” writes:
> Before Trial the nazi skinhead, knowing full well that he would be
> convicted of assault of a minor, decided to have the last laugh, and
> had his name legally changed to “HI Hitler” — The skinhead wanted the
> judge to call him “HI hitler” when passing judgement (in a frail
> attempt to force the judge to salute to hitler.).
Such people are Nazis?
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the accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
From [email protected] Sat Jun 29 13:21:10 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: The Eatwell Confession
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> >
> >My dear chap, it wasn’t my foot that was targeted by the thugs who attacked me
> >with mallets on November 28, 1993; I still have a slight but nagging injury to
> >my left elbow, and a psychological problem (make something of that if you
> will).
> >So much for the wicked Revisionazis and the poor, persecuted POWERLESS people
> >who oppose them.
>
> Yeay, yeah. And “Jews have more than their fair share of brazen
> liars.” Nevertheless, you might like to consider in future that
> articles which are posted to Usenet are distributed in the UK.
> Whatever your “legal reasons” for not distributing your pamphlet in
> the UK, you just did it by posting it.
>
> >You might like to read Eatwell’s contribution to NEO-FASCISM IN EUROPE. A
> >friend of mine – a lecturer who is most definitely not a Revisionist – read
> this
> >and was astounded. It is evident from this that Eatwell is far from happy with
> >the Exterminationist claims. It really is embarrassing to read.
>
> _Neo-fascism in Europe_ was the very thing Dr. Eatwell recommended
> that I read. And when I get back, I will deal with it. And your
> misrepresentation of Eatwell’s opinions on the Holocaust.
>
> Relax for the next month. Enjoy the summer weather. The dog days will
> come soon enough.
You should also see what the good doctor wrote in his letters, and the
documentation he sent me.
—
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the accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
From [email protected] Sun Jun 30 09:34:09 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: Rumors
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] writes:
> What’s that rumor I heard about the U.S. experimenting on Blacks and infecting
> them with syphillis during world war two?
> I heard another rumor that the US Government deliberately infected Native
> Americans with smallpox by distributing blankets
> infected with the agent.
This sounds like an elaboration on the Tuskagee experiment in which some
400 Southern Blacks were told they were being treated for syphilis but weren’t.
The aim of this project was to study the spread of syphilis! See the book
Bad Blood. Don’t forget that these were the same good ol’ boys who were
slaying the Nazi dragon in order to make the world safe for democracy.
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the accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Nyiszli’s Memoirs of Auschwitz
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 96 00:51:38 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Ehrlich606” writes:
> The Memoirs of Dr. Nyiszli *Auschwitz* (Arcade, 1993)
>
> [NOTE: My comments here are to comprise notes on the memoirs of Dr.
> Nyiszli whose memoirs were the first thing about the Holocaust I read,
> over 30 years ago, and not since. The manuscript of the Hungarian
> physician, who composed this text by March, 1946, was first published in
> Jean Paul Sartres *Les temps modernes* [Modern Times] around 1953.
1951 actually.
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“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself
the accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
From [email protected] Sun Jun 30 09:34:11 PDT 1996
Article: 47052 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: No gas chamber in the old reich, sorry!
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 96 00:45:57 GMT
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> This is a common “revisionist” lie. Dr. Broszat didn’t say
> that there were no gas chambers in the “Old Reich”.
Translation of the Broszat letter: “Neither in Dachau nor in Buchenwald were
Jews or other prisoners gassed. The gaschamber in Dachau was not quite
finished or set into operation. Hundreds of thousands of prisoners, who were
sent to Dachau or other concentration camps in the territory of the old
Reich, were in the main victims of catastrophic hygiene and supply problems:
in the twelve months from July 1942 to June 1943, according to official SS
statistics, in all the concentration camps of the Reich, 110812 persons
>from illness and hunger. The mass destruction of Jews by gassing started
1941/42, and many incorrigible self-teachers, who certainly possess the
correct grand total, base themselves on arguments which are individually
correct, but which by means of polemics have been torn from their
contexts, in the consideration of which they hurry past, basing themselves
on false or deficient information.”
What Revisionist “lie”, Dan?
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the accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
From [email protected] Sun Jun 30 09:34:11 PDT 1996
Article: 47053 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Deborah Lipstadt: Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner?
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 96 00:49:59 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “PMccutc103” writes:
>
> There is a difference between saying “I’m not going to marry/be friends
> with/like people of a different race/religion/political perspective” and
> saying “I’m going to put people of a different race/religion/political
> perspective to death.”
Not according to Organised Jewry and the “anti-fascist” movement there isn’t.
Racial integrity = gas chambers for them. It is well document that it is the
activities of a certain type of Jew which have created this bizarre form of
sex shop Nazism. I put this down to their fanatical hatred of the “Aryan” Race,
but others have different explanations.
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the accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
From [email protected] Sun Jun 30 15:34:05 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Lies and Damn Lies
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 96 18:22:07 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Ken McVay OBC” writes:
> Already we have two explanations of the human-skin ornaments. It is
> interesting to note that they are mutually exclusive. On the one hand,
> according to Butz, the ornaments unquestionably did exist, since
> tattooed skin was produced at the IMT, but it is “fairly certain” that
> the “medical specimens” were simply cut from the corpses of inmates who
> died naturally. On the other hand, the ornaments were “planted” by the
> Allies.
>
> Butz can’t have it both ways. He can claim that Ilse Koch is innocent
> because the ornaments came from inmates who died of natural causes and
> not murder; or, he can claim that the ornaments were forgeries, planted
> by the Allies to incriminate the Nazis. To claim both is ludicrous.
> Yet this is exactly what he does.
>
He can have it both ways; I have now done further research on this and there
were definitely human skin artifacts. However, there was more than a little
gilding the lily going on here. The book bound in human skin was never
produced for the obvious reason.
> A week later, General Clay commented on this matter (NYT, Oct. 22, p.
> 5): “My examination of the record, based upon reports which I received
> from the lawyers, indicated that the most serious charges were based on
> hearsay and not on factual evidence. For that reason the sentence was
> commuted.” He went on to say “I hold no sympathy for Ilse Koch. She
> was a woman of depraved character and ill repute. She had done many
> things reprehensible and punishable, undoubtedly, under German law. We
> were not trying her for those things. We were trying her as a war
> criminal on specific charges.”
Butz actually quotes this.
I won’t comment on the rest of your prolix post except to say that you have
omitted the most important part: Koch’s husband was executed by the SS and
she herself had been removed. Butz mentions that Judge Morgen (a defence
witness for the SS at Nuremberg) had been responsible for breaking a ring of
corruption which had included the murder of some prisoners. Whatever the crimes
of Ilse Koch, and her husband, they were not “war crimes” and not “Nazi crimes”,
You might just as well try to indict Jimmy Carter because one of his staunchest
supporters – John Wayne Gacy – murdered over 30 people and buried most of them
under his house.
What do you think the Fuhrer would have thought of Jew-skin books and
lampshades?
—
Alexander Baron
From [email protected] Sun Jun 30 15:34:07 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Where smoke and flame stories come from
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 96 17:47:46 GMT
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> I understand that these photographs show that the corpses were
> burned in rather the same manner corpses of victims in some
> death camps were burned, is that correct?
> But “revisionists” (notably Al Baron) repeatedly claim that
> it is impossible to burn corpses that way.
Dan, Dan, Dan, you’re lying again, I can see your lips move. I never said it
was impossible to burn corpses in the open. I said it was impossible to burn
then in the quantities and manner in which they were described. Recall the
testimony of your man Bendel: a thousand an hour in the pits full of fat.
Hee, hee, hee.
—
Alexander Baron
From [email protected] Sun Jun 30 15:34:07 PDT 1996
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: The professor and his eyewitnesses
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 96 18:12:26 GMT
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> The 4 million figure was not based mainly on eyewitness testimony,
> but on a computation of how many corpses could have been cremated
> if the furnaces were working full time.
>
> It was an erroneous manner in which to estimate the number of
> the victims because, actually, the extermination machinery at
> Birkenau was idle at times, as a relatively small number of
> victims were being deported to the camp.
Wrong.
—
Alexander Baron
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Condolences to Memorial Day
Date: Fri, 31 May 96 23:34:59 GMT
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