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Ayre Henri, Article 5

There will never be gun sweeps in this
>country…only possibly the use of arms by those unqualified or felons
>and maybe…we can all get rid of those oozie type weapons…we don’t
>need them for target practice or hunting.
>Lu
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Dear Lu, Forgive me for saying that this is a bit incoherent. The
unsupported statement that there will never be gun sweeps in this country
is an unsupported personal opinion, not a statement of fact. Someone else
may feel that we will experience a Federal gun grab. That also would be
an opinion. One can only judge which is closer to the mark by observing
the recent flow of opinions and legislation.

And by the “oozie type weapons” I think you mean the Uzi machine pistol
manufactured by peaceloving Israel, weapons of this sort, rapid fire
without too much accuracy. (Kill ’em with pounds of lead, not a clean
shot to the heart!) True enough, it is a military weapon. But what if the
government regards its own people as the enemy? H. Ayre.

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That’s a moot question, Clinton’s possible involvement in all those
deaths. But no one can *prove* that he DIDN’T have some involvement in
some of them… or all of them. This is a speculative subject and one
must consider in his mind a whole lot of peripheral material before
adopting one point of view or the other. H. Ayre.

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>And I’m sure they’ll get it when they’re tried for check forgery and fraud.
>
>Patriots, my ass. Criminal check forging scum.

I have read a very interesting account of what you call “check forging”
and it appears that the checks are at least as valid as the Federal
Reserve notes we use every day. Valid and uncontested liens have been
levied against individuals and corporations for various offenses (whether
imaginary or real, it doesn’t matter if the lien is uncontested), and
these liens are pledged as collateral for the drafts issued. There is a
certain amount of learned opinion that all this has been done according
to the laws of the land and that the drafts are as legal as any other
hypothecated money. They cannot be any more risky than the billions of
dollars of derivatives sold by Wall Street to all and sundry, including
Orange County, California. H. Ayre.

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No, Charles is entirely correct, it is Dave who is wrong. Note Dave’s
neat use of the “voice from the sky” passive tense, “(it) ‘has been’
exhaustively debunked…” As if to say that some disincarnate, eternal,
and omnipotent Being had decided from on high that there is no truth at
all to the kosher tax, and that all reasonable people have been aware of
that fact for, well, just ages.

The kosher food scam is over 100 years old and going strong. But not in
France, nor elsewhere in Europe to my knowledge. Americans are, after
all, the most gullible people in the world, easily conned, who will
believe any statement at all if it is pronounced in grave tones on TV.

But really, does anyone willing to think about it a bit believe that the
kosher inspection is done for FREE? Or that the food manufacturer will
NOT pass this cost, however slight, onto the back of the consumer?

Wake up America! H. Ayre.

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Wake up America! H. Ayre.

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Tonight on CBS news the big story informed Mr. & Mrs. Dumbkopf America
that rampant racism against Blacks is torching the Black churches in the
South. Like a 900-volt jolt of instant knowledge I just knew that the
glib news announcer was lying. (A pretty safe bet nowadays in any case.)
The arson isn’t coming from racism among private citizens, it’s coming
via a domestic psy-op in which the CIA and the FBI probably share
responsibility. Americans of all colors, just average people, are
beginning to feel that they are the prey of the Federal wolves, and they
are beginning to work hand-in-hand to share news and opinions. This
begins to cut out the dominance and influence of the mass media, the
talking heads of Dan, Peter, Tom, et al. And the mass media IS the gov’t,
after all, the most visible part of it.

So we must ask ourselves, if the Oklahoma City bombing was a BATF sting
operation gone wrong, and if the FBI educated the Arabs in the
intricacies of bomb-making for the Trade Center caper, do we now have
a spate of Black church burning sponsored by some government
agencies specifically to create divisions once again among Americans?
There is nothing at all impossible in this idea. H. Ayre.

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Concerning the national debt, it has come about due principally to the
pie-in-the-sky monetary system (which is nothing more than a global Ponzi
scheme) which permitted the endless creation of debt on the say-so of a
few “bought-and-paid-for” goverment figures. A contributing cause: the
typical psyche of the American ruling class which deems it best to
“conquer today by a trick, and if the trick unravels tomorrow, well,
we’ll just have to figure out another trick.”

When finally the basic supporting conditions for a successful society
have been sucked dry,then tricks no longer suffice. H. Ayre.

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Sorry, I got into this thing at the middle. What was the question you
asked? H. Ayre.

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It has repeatedly been said by liberals that the death penalty has no
effect on crime. I opine that this is because it has lately been
administered in such an antiseptic way, with worries about the
condemned suffering for a few seconds, and at any rate all concluded
behind closed walls and doors.

If the state is going to execute a criminal for his crimes against the
functioning of society and its peaceful members, that execution should be
public. It should be a horrible execution, one that strikes fear into the
hearts of potential criminals. The guillotine used in a public square
would certainly qualify as a proper execution.

In today’s world scalpers might sell tickets to the execution and major
corporations drape their logos from adjacent buildings. So much the
better! Obviously, if properly managed an execution would cost the state
nothing at all, even show a profit.

And I kid you not, potential murderers and rapists would most certainly
revise their thoughts. H. Ayre.

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My personal experience with William Cooper has convinced me that he has
little control over either his temper or his ideas. He has created a
world of his own self-importance, and that world is not very well
respected by a growing number of intelligent people. Mr. Cooper has all
the makings of a petty tyrant, IMHO. Each such person has a few charming
facets and apparently Mr. Cooper has his. H. Ayre.

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When finally the basic supporting conditions for a successful society
have been sucked dry,then tricks no longer suffice. H. Ayre.

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I note someone has claimed that Spam is not part of the kosher food game.
Spam has pork in it. Wouldn’t it be a riot if some Rabbi approved Spam as
a kosher food? In fact, one unnamed Rabbi did something similar in
approving a certain brand of lard (pork fat) as kosher! He desperately
wanted the fee that came with each approval. Shortly thereafter, the
approval was yanked by Jewish authorities in the hierarchy who
(ruefully?) saw that such a kosher approval would expose the whole scam
to ridicule. H. Ayre.

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And I kid you not, potential murderers and rapists would most certainly
revise their thoughts. H. Ayre.

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When finally the basic supporting conditions for a successful society
have been sucked dry,then tricks no longer suffice. H. Ayre.

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When finally the basic supporting conditions for a successful society
have been sucked dry,then tricks no longer suffice. H. Ayre.

From [email protected] Mon Jun 10 07:43:44 PDT 1996
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Obviously those who think that guns end lives have not thought far
enough. A gun is an inanimate object quite incapable of volition. The
same is true of a round of ammunition. I have a loaded gun sitting
quietly in a drawer. It has never killed anyone and I expect that it
never will… unaided, that is.

So what is it REALLY that kills people, speaking of guns, of course,
since there exist a number of other deadly weapons? Why it is the trigger
finger on the hand of the assailant that kills people, of course, why
anyone can see that!

The solution is clear. We must embark on a program of mass amputation of
all trigger fingers. Price ’em at $10,000 apiece for adults, $1,000 for
those of the newborn (smaller fingers). The result will be an immediate
reduction in gun related deaths. H. Ayre.

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From [email protected] Tue Jun 11 01:50:25 PDT 1996
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It seems to me that Larry is a bit hypercritical about the very
non-mechanical job of an investigative reporter. Why hasn’t this
happened, why hasn’t that prediction come true yet, etc? And these
questions are then translated into doubts that the story is true in the
first place.

One ALWAYS must have a few doubts about ANY story of events in high
places, it is a matter of perceived probabilities, not of being “right”or
being “wrong,” or of absolute knowledge of the affair or total rejection
of the story. There are lots of twists and turns in the world of real
events that cannot be known and which make things happen a bit (or a lot)
differently from what was expected.

In my own perception of probabilities, I find the James Norman thesis
entirely plausible and I can imagine all sorts of things that prevent
instant verification of the details he has stated. Not the least of these
is the ever-real chance that many people fear for their lives if they say
too much… H. Ayre.

From [email protected] Tue Jun 11 17:23:49 PDT 1996
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Subject: 32 CHURCHES, 9 STATES, A YEAR AND A HALF…
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This is the big news on the TV news tonight as I type. Why is it that I
smell a scam of mega-proportions? Maybe it’s because I doubt that we have
this much racism against Blacks in America. Perhaps it is because I have
become aware over the years of the actions of the FBI and other Federal
agencies against certain minorities. Perhaps it is because I really don’t
believe any longer in the essential goodness of Big Brother in
Washington, D.C., nor in the essential truthfulness of Dan and Peter and
Tom & Co.

To a corrupt government the most frightening prospect is an aroused
people, the people as a whole group, aroused AGAINST that central
government. Thus, it becomes necessary for the central government to keep
the people divided against themselves, in a constant and meaningless
internecine warfare that goes nowhere and destroys their ability to act
in unison.

So, IMHO, the probability strongly exists that all those Black churches
burning are the product of a black operation by the CIA, the FBI, the
BATF, or some other criminal Federal agency. Some unelected think
tank of gurus (“Super Big Brothers”) has given secret
not-to-be-questioned orders to break up the growing unity of opinion on
the part of most Americans concerning the central government.

And, of course, what could now be more appropriate than to have the FBI
investigate these 32 cases of arson on Black churches? H. Ayre.

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Planing above all this dust, noise, and confusion which is deliberately
sought by one side of the argument about kosher certification for foods
is the definition of an anti-Semite by Joseph Sobran, nationally
syndicated columnist:”

“An anti-Semite is a man who is hated by the Jews.”

A national scam that is so successful and so long-lived as the kosher
food tax will naturally be defended vigourously by its practitioners with
every argument at their disposal, including this nonsense epithet,
“You’re an anti-Semite.”
Once again, an anti-Semite is a person who is hated by the Jews. H. Ayre.

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To Braun, Einstein, et al: Joseph Sobran, nationally syndicated
columnist, defines an anti-Semite as a man who is hated by the Jews. As
for me I hate no one, hate is an exhausting and bitter corrosive. I seek
reason and truth. Reason and Truth compell me to think that the kosher
food tax is an imposition on the multitude by a very clever minority. It
would not matter to me if that minority were Jewish, Muslim, Roman
Catholic, Hindu or etc., I would feel exactly the same about this issue.

Nothing of any use to most people is added to the food by kosher
inspection. It is most certainly a scam. The argument that it costs each
shopper virtually nothing is illusory. It obviously DOES cost the shopper
**something** nomatter how slight. When a mosquito alights on my arm
intent to take a tiny drop of blood which I will not miss I nevertheless
swat the mosquito. H. Ayre.

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I question the statistics that “prove” that public executions do not
deter crime. These statistics are usually compiled by groups who are
opposed to capital punishment in the first place. And the fact that
pickpockets in ancient England used the occasion of the public hanging of
pickpockets to ply their trade is hardly a quantitative and comparative
study. It takes hardly any imagination at all for any normal individual
to realize that the prospect of a horrible public death would most
certainly deter some (but not, of course, all) people from committing
murder, rape, etc. H.Ayre.

From [email protected] Wed Jun 19 01:21:46 PDT 1996
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To make public an e-mail discussion with Larry: I pointed out that I had
opined that Larry had been *HYPER* critical, not hypocritical. Larry
admitted he had misread my comment and the thing rested there. H. Ayre.

From [email protected] Wed Jun 19 01:21:47 PDT 1996
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The overture for totalitarianism in the 21st century is being played
right now. It consists of soaking up the attention of the broad masses of
the citizens with an amazing variety of amusements and electronic
trivialities that, at the end of the day, amount to high-tech serfdom.
The non-formattable and uncontrolled Internet represents the sole serious
challenge to this serfdom. H. Ayre.

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According to the Big Three Big Brother News, the arson of black
churches has been going on for a year and a half. It isn’t a phenomenon
of the last two weeks. It’s just that now the Federal government and the
TV Moguls have decided to forcefeed this well-developed situation to the
American public. If this 75 week wave of arson is a deliberate plan of
the CIA or FBI or BATF, I would assume its purpose is to divide the
American public against itself. A tyrannical government fears most a
public consensus against its power. (Note how such broad public agreement
finally toppled the communist states.)

If this above conjecture is true, black ministers and preachers should
take many photographs of their churches while they are still standing. As
in other well-documented cases, the Federal crime enforcement agencies
may have to investigate themselves, something they really don’t do very
well. H. Ayre.

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BOOKS TO TURN YOUR HEAD!

It has been my intention for some time to post a series of book
recommendations, not more than two dozen in number, these being books
which have had, for me, the effect of “turning my head,” creating a sort
of dog-leg in my thoughts on the subject discussed. Thus I entitle this
series “Books to Turn Your Head.” I recommend these books to browsers and
lurkers without having, however, the slightest assurance whether anyone of
these books will have a similar effect on some other reader.

Each of these books is on a different subject, sometimes having a certain
subject overlap with another book in the series, but more often
not. What ties these books together, however loosely, is the fact that
each has been subjected to some degree of conspiratorial censorship
because each has within its pages revised the common, popular, academic,
or orthodox view on the subject discussed. For these reasons of
conspiracy, censorship, and revisionism I post the series to these three
alt. groups.

BOOKS TO TURN YOUR HEAD #1

THE BIG BANG NEVER HAPPENED by Eric Lerner, Times Books (A
division of Random House), 1991, 466 pages including index, appendix, and
bibliography (arranged by chapters).

Virtually the entirety of official, vocal and public accademia
subscribes to the Big Bang theory of the creation of the universe. With
such unanimity one would suppose that the theory really isn’t a theory any
longer, that it is proven beyond doubt, and that any remaining doubters
must be cast rudely in the role of lunatics and clowns. It will come as
something of a shock to the reader to learn that the theory has grave
difficulties, philosophic, scientific, and empirical. To “save” the theory
(and why save it, shouldn’t it save ITSELF?) it has been necessary to make
a series of assumptions (example, “black matter”) which just haven’t panned
out.

Meanwhile, another theory, that of the “plasma universe,” a
construct of the Nobel laureate Hannes Alfven, gives us an entirely
different view of the universe, less suitable for a Hollywood production
than the Big Bang, but one that doesn’t suffer from the serious question
marks of the Big Bang either. The plasma universe is not inspired by the
Old Testament, rather by the acceptance that infinity is ultimately
unknowable… but nevertheless locally understandable.
Most interesting is Lerner’s retracement of scientific thought
down through the centuries, pointing out that the Big Bang theory is to a
great extent a religious statement rather than a clearly-grasped
scientific revelation.
The reader of this book should have a good general background in
science. It is, however, much more easily read than “The Emperor’s New
Mind” by Penrose, for instance.
H. Ayre.

From [email protected] Fri Jun 21 19:26:01 PDT 1996
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From: Henry Ayre
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>>>If this above conjecture is true, black ministers and preachers should
>>>take many photographs of their churches while they are still standing.
>>> H. Ayre.

>>Write that down. The government is burning down black churches. Case
>>solved by our severely persecuted right-wing brethren.
>>That’s a load off of my mind.
>>What a Paranoid Maroon!
>>
>> Jim
********************
This Jim seems unable to read. I proposed a theory properly set forth
with conditionals. In the past the FBI and CIA have taken action against
specific groups in covert operations as we all know. There is a
probability number out there that this is happening again. Just what that
probability number is I don’t know. But it certainly isn’t zero. That’s
reserved for Jim. H. Ayre.

From [email protected] Fri Jun 21 19:54:03 PDT 1996
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>>>If this above conjecture is true, black ministers and preachers should
>>>take many photographs of their churches while they are still standing.
>>> H. Ayre.

>>Write that down. The government is burning down black churches. Case
>>solved by our severely persecuted right-wing brethren.
>>That’s a load off of my mind.
>>What a Paranoid Maroon!

>> Jim
********************
This Jim seems unable to read. I proposed a theory properly set forth
with conditionals. In the past the FBI and CIA have taken action against
specific groups in covert operations as we all know. There is a
probability number out there that this is happening again. Just what that
probability number is I don’t know. But it certainly isn’t zero. That’s
reserved for Jim. H. Ayre.

From [email protected] Sat Jun 22 12:46:00 PDT 1996
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>>>If this above conjecture is true, black ministers and preachers should
>>>take many photographs of their churches while they are still standing.
>>> H. Ayre.

>>Write that down. The government is burning down black churches. Case
>>solved by our severely persecuted right-wing brethren.
>>That’s a load off of my mind.
>>What a Paranoid Maroon!
>> Jim
********************
This Jim seems unable to read. I proposed a theory properly set forth
with conditionals. In the past the FBI and CIA have taken action against
specific groups in covert operations as we all know. There is a
probability number out there that this is happening again. Just what that
probability number is I don’t know. But it certainly isn’t zero. That’s
reserved for Jim. H. Ayre.

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>>>If this above conjecture is true, black ministers and preachers should
>>>take many photographs of their churches while they are still standing.
>>> H. Ayre.

>>Write that down. The government is burning down black churches. Case
>>solved by our severely persecuted right-wing brethren.
>>That’s a load off of my mind.
>>What a Paranoid Maroon!

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[email protected] (Harry Katz) wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>Charles ([email protected]) whines:

William F. Buckley himself openly identified Mr. Sobran as an
anti-Semite after years of
>friendship and collaboration.
>–
>Harry Katz

Yes, one’s affiliations and loyalties are fragile and up for instant
review when one hobnobs with the emotionally unstable.

Joseph Sobran’s most enduring and enlightening statement will certainly
be, “An anti-Semite is a person hated by the Jews.”

And we always thought it was the reverse! H. Ayre.

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[email protected] (Harry Katz) wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>Charles ([email protected]) whines:

William F. Buckley himself openly identified Mr. Sobran as an
anti-Semite after years of
>friendship and collaboration.
>–
>Harry Katz

Yes, one’s affiliations and loyalties are fragile and up for instant
review when one hobnobs with the emotionally unstable.

Joseph Sobran’s most enduring and enlightening statement will certainly
be, “An anti-Semite is a person hated by the Jews.”

And we always thought it was the reverse! H. Ayre.

From [email protected] Mon Jun 24 08:38:46 PDT 1996
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>>> Dear Lissa,

>>> I cannot be your unpaid tutor. I would charge you $100 per hour for my research time, and I am sure you would not be interested =
in paying me at this rate. H. Ayre.

>Somehow I suspect Mr. Ayre would insist the payment be made in good, solid
>american greenbacks, rather than as wastepaper ‘backed’ by fraudulent liens
>you might file on someone you don’t like.

>Craig Lambert

You are entirely correct, Craig, I certainly WOULD insist that payment be
made in the most liquid and acceptable form of currency. In the event I
won’t be accepting payment because I don’t intend to do this sort of
research work. The Internet offers many search engines and huge
resources to access. Lissa is not herself interested in performing such
searches to inform herself. Rather, with minimum information she wants to
make an argument of the subject to satisfy emotionally preconceived
convictions, as do you apparently yourself. But note the flimsy
pretexts that are sometimes used by the government to seize private
property by issuing liens. The subject is by no means insubstantial, as I
learned when I studied commercial law forty years ago.

That *I* would accept nothing less than liquid currency has nothing to do
whatever with the *certain innate value* of a lien. I think anyone who
thinks a moment can see this point.

So, Craig, it would appear that you haven’t really said very much, have
you? H. Ayre.

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>>On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Henry Ayre wrote:
>>
>>> >Whose learned opinion? While I find your response interesting, without
>>> >any sources or backup, it is all just opinion to me, and apparantly,
>>> >also to the federal government.
>>> >Lissa
>>> Dear Lissa,
>>> I cannot be your unpaid tutor. I would charge you $100 per hour for my
research time, and I am sure you would not be interested =
in paying me at this rate. H. Ayre.

>Craig Lambert

That *I* would accept nothing less than liquid currency has nothing to do
whatever with the *certain innate value* of a lien. I think anyone who
thinks a moment can see this point.

So, Craig, it would appear that you haven’t really said very much, have
you? H. Ayre.

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>Nearly the entire article consists of damning evidence against the
>Reagan administration.

>Finally, and most important, absolutely no evidence was presented
>that indicates involvement by then-Governor Clinton.

This must be inferred from a small discrepancy
>between Messrs. Baker’s and Young’s statements and those of Terry Reed,
>who was up to his neck in illegal activities.
>
>You’ll have to do better than this.
>
>—Alvin H. Nichter

It would appear that Alvin has not taken the time to read carefully
COMPROMISED:Clinton, Bush, and the CIA by Terry Reed and John Cummings (a
best seller, S.P.I. Books, New York City, 1994, ISBN 1-56171-249-3). I
have read this book (along with hundreds of others on recent history) and
I find a very great difference between Clinton and Reed, to wit: Reed has
made completely clear what he was involved in AND why he quit as an asset
of the CIA and what quitting cost him. Reed was completely exonerated
(with prejudice against his accusers), then filed suit against the two
men who framed him. This suit was dropped when the judge would not allow
Reed to bring forth witnesses and evidence on the entire Mena affair.
Technically and legalistically it can well be said that Reed won that
suit by government default. The government has, in effect, pleaded nolo
contendere, no contest.

On the other hand, Clinton has been caught in one lie after another
concerning not only Mena but just about everything else he has played a
part in. And, for kickers, he has been characterized by someone close to
him as having “a nose like a vacuum cleaner” for cocaine. Some anecdotal
evidence, having become widespread enough, is accepted for fact. H. Ayre.

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>Nearly the entire article consists of damning evidence against the
>Reagan administration.

>Finally, and most important, absolutely no evidence was presented
>that indicates involvement by then-Governor Clinton.

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>Nearly the entire article consists of damning evidence against the
>Reagan administration.

>Finally, and most important, absolutely no evidence was presented
>that indicates involvement by then-Governor Clinton.

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This is the second in a series of commentaries on books that I have found
to be super-informative. All share the dubious distinction of having been,
in some way or another, targets of conspiratorial censorship because they
strongly tend to revise the “common wisdom” on a subject of general
interest.

BOOKS TO TURN YOUR HEAD, #2

THE POLITICS OF HEROIN: CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade, by Alfred
W. McCoy, Lawrence Hill Books (reprinted by arrangement with Harper & Row,
Publishers, NYC), 1991, ISBN 1-55652-125-1 (paperback), 634 pages including
notes, bibliography, and index.

“Alfred W. McCoy is professor of Southeastern Asian History at the
University of Wisconsin-Madison…” So reads the very last page of this
book. He is also one very expert researcher on his subject. We average
citizens tend to gasp a bit when someone claims that the CIA is bringing
hard drugs into the U.S. It seems to be beyond belief that something like
this could happen. McCoy, however, develops the world history of drug use
>from as early as 400 B.C. forward and into modern times. This historical
approach gives the reader a clear idea of the trends: from simple
beginnings the drug trade has become, in the last two centuries, so
enormously lucrative that it simply cannot be ignored by governments as a
source of revenue. What was before open government involvement in the drug
trade (sales to OTHER nations, as evidenced, for example, in the two Opium
Wars, Britain versus China), has now become a clandestine government
involvement via criminal organizations, including intelligence
organizations. Prof. McCoy points out that the spy agencies of major
nations find much common ground with the criminal organizations in the
countries where covert operations are intended.

While McCoy does not go so far as to claim active importation of drugs into
the United States by the CIA itself, he does point to the many instances
where CIA **complicity** with the drug trade, particularly the opium and
heroin trade in Southeast Asia, is fully documented. The reader must decide
for himself whether some element of the CIA, to cover financial shortfalls
occurring in very expensive secret operations, would take the final step
and fully enter into the drug trade.

This is an exceptionally well-documented book, actually a much-expanded
second edition. The first edition (1972) displeased the CIA and they
attempted unsuccessfully to suppress its publication. H. Ayre.
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