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Article 3-3, Anderson Steven Malcolm

In <32919E76.11F3@fed_up.org> FED UP writes:
>
>Females are This, That, and The Other Thing

>Females are much more sexually decadent than the male.

That’s my favorite part by far! Vive la decadence!
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“The concept of ‘greatness’ entails being noble,
wanting to be by oneself,
being capable of being different, standing alone…” -Friedrich Nietzsche
“Identity is shaped through confict and opposition.” -Camille Paglia

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In <32943F04.6684@fed_up.org> FED UP writes:

>Females are wicked.
>
>Females are evil.

“Evil, be Thou my Good.” -Nietzsche–
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“Identity is shaped through confict and opposition.” -Camille Paglia

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In <3295D4E4.3F58@fed_up.org> FED UP writes:

Why don’t you get to the point?: “Women’s place isn’t in the kitchen
— it’s in the oven.” (Note: _I_ don’t believe that myself, but _IF_ I
_WAS_ a misogynist like Mr. “FED UP” [rather than a feminist, as I am
instead], then _that’s_ what I _WOULD_ say.)
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“The concept of ‘greatness’ entails being noble,
wanting to be by oneself,
being capable of being different, standing alone…” -Friedrich Nietzsche
“Identity is shaped through confict and opposition.” -Camille Paglia

From [email protected] Mon Nov 25 06:58:50 PST 1996
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In <3296F774.5622@fed_up.org> FED UP writes:
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>And more Postscript:

>Females are ruining the nation.
>
>Females are ruining the planet.
>
>Females are pushy yet they can’t comprehend the concept of
>a backlash.

You want a backlash, huh? I’ve pointed out in a very recent post the
logically necessary conclusion of your gynophobic ideas. Are you ready
for that?

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wanting to be by oneself,
being capable of being different, standing alone…” -Friedrich Nietzsche
“Identity is shaped through confict and opposition.” -Camille Paglia

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In <3296F774.5622@fed_up.org> FED UP writes:

>Females give alluring glances at meetings.

“at me” sounds better.

>Females give wicked glances at meetings.

“at me” sounds better.

Evil, wicked, alluring, etc., females. Is there a cure for gynophilia?
(Hope not.)
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wanting to be by oneself,
being capable of being different, standing alone…” -Friedrich Nietzsche
“Identity is shaped through confict and opposition.” -Camille Paglia

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In <[email protected]> “Rev. Donald Spitz”
writes:
>
>If you murder your unborn baby you are a murderess. How can a woman
>murder her own unborn baby? How heartless can a woman be?

That’s what I like to see! Keep it up! Keep posting this shit! har!
har!
“Evil, be Thou my Good” -Nietzsche

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In <56rsu[email protected]> [email protected] (Billy Beck)
writes:
>
>
>”JR Shiflett” wrote:
>
>>Here are some helpful clues:
>
>>Our Founding Fathers discussed the political spectrum as reaching
from
>>centralized “Ruler’s Law” on the left, to balanced “People’s Law” in
the center, to
>>anarchistic “Lawlessness” on the right.
>
> *Cite*, please.

That’s a very interesting spectrum, but actually, historically, the
terms “Left” and “Right” first came into use during the French
Revolution, rather than our own, and I very seriously doubt that anyone
at that time, anywhere, would have thought of placing monarchy
(“Ruler’s Law”) on the “Left” or anarchy (“Lawlessness”) on the
“Right”. Quite the reverse, I would think.

>Billy
>
>”Anthology”
>http://www.mindspring.com/~wjb3/free/essays.html- Page doesn`t exist anymore

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In <[email protected]> “Rev. Donald Spitz”
writes:
>
> Only Jesus Christ can cure a homo. If a homo dies without turning
>from
>his wicked filthy sins he will spend eternity in conscious torment in
>God’s Lake of Fire.
> Everyone who continues in sin and rejects the clear teaching of the
>Holy Scripture will spend eternity in eternal consious torment in the
>Lake of Fire. Turn from your sins and beg Jesus to forgive you, turn
to
>Jesus Christ to be saved.

Keep it up, Spitz. Keep posting this shit. har! har!

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In [email protected] (Ray Fischer) writes:
>
>Ron Chandonia wrote:
>
>>Do we value human life as little as our abortion laws (or the absence
>>of meaningful regulation) suggests?
>
>We value people and human rights more than we value human life.
>That has been true of this country since its inception. It
>is written into the Constitution and the Declaration of Independance.
>
>You may wish to live in a fascist state where liberty and freedom are
>disposed of in favor of preserving life at all costs, but and most
>people consider liberty to be of prime importance.

>Ray Fischer
>[email protected]

I absolutely agree. “Better to die on your feet than to live on your
knees.” “Give me liberty or give me death.” Etc…
—
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wanting to be by oneself,
being capable of being different, standing alone…” -Friedrich Nietzsche
“Identity is shaped through confict and opposition.” -Camille Paglia

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In <01bbd8aa$c46f77a0$b04392cf@sid> “Sid”
writes:

>Aren’t we lucky that a bitter man like Bork did not get on the court!
>–
>Sid9
>
Yup. We’ve still got a Bill of Rights.
—
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“Identity is shaped through confict and opposition.” -Camille Paglia

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Subject: Re: Religion and Law (Was: Pro-Choice and proud of it)
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Anybody who doesn’t know the difference between the Bible and the
Constitution is suffering from severe cranio-rectal impaction.
—
[email protected]
“The concept of ‘greatness’ entails being noble,
wanting to be by oneself,
being capable of being different, standing alone…” -Friedrich Nietzsche
“Identity is shaped through confict and opposition.” -Camille Paglia

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From: [email protected](Steven Malcolm Anderson)
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In <[email protected]> TINGSTER writes:

>I think everyone is missing the point here, what happened to morals?
>I’m from Generation X and if you’re willing to do the crime (have sex)
^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^ ^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^
>you have to be willing to do the time (be responsible).
^^^ ^^^^ ^^ ^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^ ^^^ ^^^^ be pregnant

This says it all about the real agenda of many pro-lifers: sex is a
crime and pregnancy is its punishment.
—
[email protected]
“The concept of ‘greatness’ entails being noble,
wanting to be by oneself,
being capable of being different, standing alone…” -Friedrich Nietzsche
“Identity is shaped through confict and opposition.” -Camille Paglia

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From: [email protected](Steven Malcolm Anderson)
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Subject: Re: The Fears of Robert Bork (Was: Supreme Court)
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In <[email protected]> Papa Jack
writes:
>
>Steven Malcolm Anderson wrote:
>>
>
>> In <01bbd8aa$c46f77a0$b04392cf@sid>
> “Sid” writes:
>> >Aren’t we lucky that a bitter man like Bork did not get on the
court!
>
> ==========================================================
>> Steven Malcolm Anderson wrote:
>> Yup. We’ve still got a Bill of Rights.

Barely.

> ==========================================================
>Papa Jack laughs:
>Well we do except for the 10th which was thrown out by the Supreme
>Court in Mulford v. Smith (1939) and U.S. v. Darby (1941).
>
>And, then, in Carolene Products Co v. U.S. (1944) the court created
>the presumption of constitutionality that upholds government action
>unless it violates an identifiable fundamental right. Which fuzzed
>up the previous interpretations of the Ninth Amendment.

Your pal Bork doesn’t seem to care too much for that pesky 9th. It
limits government too much for his tastes. And emphasizes the
individual as primary.

>But, we still have the First Amendment — unless you are religious.

Or like sex.

>The Second Amendment hangs by a string as liberals chip away at
>the American’s constitutional right to own and bear arms.

Has Bork done much to oppose gun control?

>We still have the others, er, I think, but it’s difficult to
>tell with some of the modern “interpretations” by the courts.
>You know, we have all these “penumbras” with their “emanations.”

Yeah, that dirty right to privacy.

>Have a nice day.
>–
>{ Papa Jack
>{
>{ http://www.express-news.net/papajack- Page doesn`t exist anymore
>
> “We hold these truths to be self evident, that all
> men are created equal; that they are endowed by
> their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that
> among these, are life, liberty, and the pursuit of
> happiness.” –Thomas Jefferson

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From: [email protected](Steven Malcolm Anderson)
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In <[email protected]> [email protected] writes:
>
>TINGSTER wrote:

>> I think everyone is missing the point here, what happened to morals?
>> I’m from Generation X and if you’re willing to do the crime (have
sex)
>
>sex is a ‘crime’?!?

Well, is it?
—
[email protected]
“The concept of ‘greatness’ entails being noble,
wanting to be by oneself,
being capable of being different, standing alone…” -Friedrich Nietzsche
“Identity is shaped through confict and opposition.” -Camille Paglia

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From: [email protected](Steven Malcolm Anderson)
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Subject: Re: Religion and Law (Was: Pro-Choice and proud of it)
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In <5[email protected]> [email protected] (Tom
Gauldin) writes:
>
>[email protected](Steven Malcolm Anderson) wrote:
>> Anybody who doesn’t know the difference between the Bible and the
>>Constitution is suffering from severe cranio-rectal impaction.
>
>Yes, there is a difference, but there is also a common thread AND a
lot of
>similarities as well.
>
>Since I’m an atheist, I fail to see how the two differ in their
impact. The
>Constitution was drawn as a statement for the relationship of people
within
>our nation, but the basic tenets were drawn from the bible. So what?
The
>bible and the most basic tenets of the major religions are simply
practical
>guidelines for the relationships of people. The folks who drafted the
>Constitution were Christians and that found its way into their
thoughts and
>writings.
>
>Consider JUST the main commandments, for a moment.
>
>Would you like to live in a society where people could be killed at
will by
>anyone? How long would a society like that last? Would it flourish?
Even
>the bloodthirsty central/south American Indian societies only killed
ritually,
>I suspect.

Which proves that laws/rules/taboos against murder, theft, rape, etc.,
long predated and were in no sense derived from the Bible. See, e.g.,
the Egyptian “Negative Confession”.

>Honoring a father and mother- well, if the kids behave, the parents
are more
>likely to have MORE kids. . . and will probably keep them at home
longer.

The Chinese honored their parents and ancestors long before they ever
heard of the Bible.

>Heck- even the bit of having just ONE god- and not a bunch. That cuts
down on
>the competition. As that religion and society grows, it becomes the
>intolerant (one God, remember?) and dominant society, thus enforcing
the other
>9 commandments.

Actually, there are about 600 commandments in the Old Testament.
You’ve just proved my point. The First Amendment, as opposed to the
First Commandment, protects our right to worship any God or Gods we
choose.

>If you cut the mumbo-jumbo of a mythical “god” out of the old
testament, you
>have a darn good underpining for society.

I myself am a polytheist, but I will defend to the death your right to
be an atheist, agnostic, monotheist, polytheist, or whatever you want
to be. Freedom of religion. Our Constitutional government was
established to protect our rights to life, liberty, and property —
_not_ to punish adulterers, homosexuals, witches, Sabbath-breakers,
etc.. My statement still stands: The Constitution and the Bible have
nothing to do with each other.

>Tom
>Tom Gauldin Here’s to the land of the longleaf pine,
>Raleigh NC The Summerland,where the sun doth shine.
>fax 919-676-1404 Where the weak grow strong,and the strong grow
great,
> Here’s to Downhome,the Old North State.

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In <578lrm[email protected]> [email protected] (Robert
Duniway) writes:
>
>In article <[email protected]>,
>Papa Jack wrote:

>[snip]
>>Which side are you on, Robert?
>
>Why hoping for the Godless communist revolution to resume its
inevitable
>course toward world communism, of course. Why would you bother asking
>such a silly question.

Then you should be pro-life. When you deny choice, you approach
communism.
—
[email protected]
“The concept of ‘greatness’ entails being noble,
wanting to be by oneself,
being capable of being different, standing alone…” -Friedrich Nietzsche
“Identity is shaped through confict and opposition.” -Camille Paglia

From [email protected] Mon Nov 25 08:07:28 PST 1996
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In <579t[email protected]> [email protected] (Mitchell
Holman) writes:
>
>In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected](Steven Malcolm Anderson) wrote:
>
>}
>}>The Second Amendment hangs by a string as liberals chip away at
>}>the American’s constitutional right to own and bear arms.
>}
>} Has Bork done much to oppose gun control?
>}
>
> Hardly. He supported both the Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons
> Bill.

That’s what I would expect from a boot-licking government lackey like
him.

He was on Larry King with Warran Burger a few years ago and
> it was interesting to watch both of them take issue with the NRA and
> their convoluted reading of the Second Amendment.

It’s obvious that the NRA is doing a good job defending our gun rights
since the gun control lobby hates it so much.

If Bork sees no
> problem with government banning birth control, it is predictable
that
> he would have no problem with government banning guns.

Absolutely true. To stay free, we must consistently defend _all_ our
freedoms. We must defend guns _and_ privacy _and_ free speech (incl.
porn) _and_ free religions, etc., without compromise.
—
[email protected]
“The concept of ‘greatness’ entails being noble,
wanting to be by oneself,
being capable of being different, standing alone…” -Friedrich Nietzsche
“Identity is shaped through confict and opposition.” -Camille Paglia

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In <579eig[email protected]> [email protected] (Bob Haynes)
writes:

>Door-to-door bible-thumpers who wake a person up on Saturday morning
>should be executed, their bodies ground up and used as bonding
^^^^^^^
material in
>asphalt. 8^)

Great! I love bondage!

> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>| Bob Haynes – WGLA – University & Community College System of Nev.|
>| Computing Services – Tech Consultant – My bosses have heard my |
>| opinions on a regular basis. I can safely state, based on their |
>| usual reaction, that I speak only for myself and not my employer.|
>| Pro-choice Anti-guncontrol |
I agree! I agree with that too!

>| Very militant atheist operating under the BAAWA banner. |
> \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

I’m a polytheist myself, but I will defend to the death your
right to be an atheist.

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In <57a9o[email protected]> [email protected] (Ron Chandonia)
writes:
>
>[email protected] (M. Grey de Shirland) wrote:
>
>>Those who want to reduce
>>abortion are going to have to go back to the drawing board too.
>>Threats, instructions about duty and morals, lectures about the
>>sanctity of life, just won’t work.
>
>Serious question: What do you personally think would work?
>
>- Ron Chandonia

The best way to reduce (not eliminate — go to another planet for
that) the need for abortion is through far more consistent use of
contraceptives. For those of us who don’t want _any_ kids, vasectomies
are quite useful. Abolish all this crap that we have some sort of duty
to breed, breed, breed “for the good of society”, whether we like it or
not. If we don’t want kids, we have a right not to have any. If you
want them, fine. Freedom of choice.

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In [email protected] writes:

>So, when the majority of Americans declined to support Bork,
>it was not merely because they were ignorant about his views,
>but – possibly – because they did not share his view on radical
>majority rule.

Ironic, is it not? The majority opposed radical majority rule. (So we
still have a Bill of Rights — barely.)

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In <[email protected]> [email protected] writes:
>
>Edward J.Gordon wrote:
>
>>
>> God is the creator of the universe, the one who saves men from
>> non-existence, the father of spirits and the one who is with you
when you
>> are alone.
>
>You forgot the mother. How can you have a father without a mother?

I agree with that. As Steve McNallen once put it: “A religion without
a Goddess is half-way to atheism.”
However, if anyone wants to worship only a male God, that, too, is
their right — as long as they don’t try to impose it on me.

>L.Lasner
>
>”You told him about the Statue?” Star Trek “First Contact”

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In <57fh[email protected]> [email protected] (Bruce
Erickson) writes:

Another good pro-2nd Amendment post:

>In article [email protected], Papa Jack
() writes:
>>Keith
=======================================================
>>>
>>> Note followups
>>>
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> Papa Jack wrote:
>>> >Ray Fischer wrote:
>>
>> =======================================================
>>> >> > Steven Malcolm Anderson wrote:
>>> >> > The NRA is, I think, doing a good job defending the 2nd
>>> >> > Amendment. NOW’s position on the 1st wrt porn is not good.
>>
>> =======================================================
>>> >> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>> >> It’s almost like the NRA defending teflon-coated bullets and
>>> >> fully automatic “assault” weapons so that they can keep hunting
>>> >> deer.
>>
>> =======================================================
>>> Keith E. Jackson wrote:
>>> Psst, Ray! Perhaps you would like to explain to the audience the
>>> significance of a “teflon-coated” bullet? Feel free to cite any
>>> *OBJECTIVE* reports on what they can and cannot do. (This should
>>> be interesting.)
>>
>>> Next, define “assault weapon” and explain why your definition,
>>> unlike the legal definition, includes automatic weapons. Free clue
:
>>> the “assault weapons” in the recent ban were not fully automatic at
>>> all, but rather semi-automatic weapons which “looked scary”.
>>
>>> Now, I disagree with the NRA’s tactics on some items, but certainly
>>> not on these issues.
>>
>>> Furthermore, the second amendement has *NOTHING* whatsoever
>>> to do with hunting.
>>
>> =======================================================
>>> >Papa Jack laughed:
>>> >Now you two cut that out. You’re supposed to always write dumb
>>> >stuff I disagree with. But, when you two disagree, that means I
>>> >must agree with one of you — and that hurts my feelings. ;>)
>>
>>> >I hate to say it, but Ray is right — the NRA has done great
>>> >damage to themselves with their radical stand on automatic
>>> >weapons.
>>
>> =======================================================
>>> Keith E. Jackson wrote:
>>> Why is it a “radical stand” to stick up for the second amendment?
>>
>>> Can you tell us of any example of a legal owner of an automatic
>>> weapon using it to commit a crime? Can you tell us how often
>>> automatic weapons are used to commit crimes?
>>
>>> Is there a rational basis for this fear of guns which fire fast?
>>
>
>One more: What is the “radical” position of the NRA wrt automatic
firearms?
>
>BTW: NONE of the firearms named in the ’94 Crime Bill are automatic!
>
>> =======================================================
>>Papa Jack replied:
>>Now where did I say it was a “radical stand” to stick up for the
>>Second Amendment? I stick up for the Second Amendment.
>>
>>However, I do think the government can and should place some
>>outside limits on the types of weapons which private citizens
>>may own. The most obvious example is atomic/nuclear weapons.
>>I would also get a bit nervous if my neighbor had a tank or
>>certain types of artillery.
>>
>>I know the Second Amendment didn’t make allowances for such
>>limitations, but my common sense also tells me that the
>>Founding Fathers didn’t envision A-bombs either when they
>>wrote it. Instead, they envisioned the sort of militia that
>>had just won the Revolution — thousands of individuals grab-
>>bing their own single shot rifles off the mantelpiece and
>>answering the call of patriotism.
>
>You mean private citizens owned the same state of the art weapons
>issued to the army? Shocking…

>>You made a very good point to Ray. Some assault weapons were
>>included in the law because the looked scary. When you look
>>at the firing capacity of some of those weapons it is obvious
>>they didn’t belong on the list. It is also obvious that many
>>legislators voted in ignorance.
>>
>>No, I cannot tell you an example of a LEGAL owner of an automatic
>>weapon using it to commit a crime? That’s because I don’t know
>>whether those gang members who do the drive by shootings with
>>Uzis are the “legal owners” of the weapons. Also, I don’t know if
>>the drug runners who carry automatic weapons are the “legal” owners
>>of those weapons. I do know, however, that when police with
>>semi-automatic weapons go up against such folks, the police are at
>>a disadvantage.
>>
>>My main complain against the NRA is that they come across as radicals

>>at a time when they needed to be building respectability. This
causes
>
>You do understand the opponents of the NRA want a complete ban on
firearms
>and are painting the NRA as radicals, don’t you?
>
>Check-out the “Association of Bay Area Governments” and their comments
on
>Handgun Control Inc. (the web page was named in a different thread on
tpg).
>
>>them to lose political clout when we need them to be acting a a
primary
>>spokesman for those of us who believe in the Second Amendment. If
>>we’re not careful, one of these days the radical left will be sending

>>jackbooted thugs into our homes to confiscate ALL guns of any sort.
>
>Are you saying the people who legally own semi-automatic AR-15 should
>be willing to sacrafice their property to the government so hunters
>will be spared the indignity of having their sniper-rifles taken?
>
>>And, the Supreme Court will be helping them justify their actions by
>>some sort of “emanations of penumbras.”
>>
>>Have a nice Thanksgiving.
>>–
>>{ Papa Jack
>>{
>>{ http://www.express-news.net/papajack Page doesn`t exist anymore
>>
>> “We hold these truths to be self evident, that all
>> men are created equal; that they are endowed by
>> their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that
>> among these, are life, liberty, and the pursuit of
>> happiness.” –Thomas Jefferson

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In <57fh[email protected]> [email protected] (Bruce
Erickson) writes:

Another good pro-2nd Amendment post:

>In article [email protected], Papa Jack
() writes:
>>Keith
=======================================================
>>> Note followups
>>>
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> Papa Jack wrote:
>>> >Ray Fischer wrote:
>>
>> =======================================================
>>> >> > Steven Malcolm Anderson wrote:
>>> >> > The NRA is, I think, doing a good job defending the 2nd
>>> >> > Amendment. NOW’s position on the 1st wrt porn is not good.
>>
>> =======================================================
>>> >> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>> >> It’s almost like the NRA defending teflon-coated bullets and
>>> >> fully automatic “assault” weapons so that they can keep hunting
>>> >> deer.
>>
>> =======================================================
>>> Keith E. Jackson wrote:
>>> Psst, Ray! Perhaps you would like to explain to the audience the
>>> significance of a “teflon-coated” bullet? Feel free to cite any
>>> *OBJECTIVE* reports on what they can and cannot do. (This should
>>> be interesting.)
>>
>>> Next, define “assault weapon” and explain why your definition,
>>> unlike the legal definition, includes automatic weapons. Free clue
:
>>> the “assault weapons” in the recent ban were not fully automatic at
>>> all, but rather semi-automatic weapons which “looked scary”.
>>
>>> Now, I disagree with the NRA’s tactics on some items, but certainly
>>> not on these issues.
>>
>>> Furthermore, the second amendement has *NOTHING* whatsoever
>>> to do with hunting.
>>
>> =======================================================
>>> >Papa Jack laughed:
>>> >Now you two cut that out. You’re supposed to always write dumb
>>> >stuff I disagree with. But, when you two disagree, that means I
>>> >must agree with one of you — and that hurts my feelings. ;>)
>>
>>> >I hate to say it, but Ray is right — the NRA has done great
>>> >damage to themselves with their radical stand on automatic
>>> >weapons.
>>
>> =======================================================
>>> Keith E. Jackson wrote:
>>> Why is it a “radical stand” to stick up for the second amendment?
>>
>>> Can you tell us of any example of a legal owner of an automatic
>>> weapon using it to commit a crime? Can you tell us how often
>>> automatic weapons are used to commit crimes?
>>
>>> Is there a rational basis for this fear of guns which fire fast?
>>
>
>One more: What is the “radical” position of the NRA wrt automatic
firearms?
>
>BTW: NONE of the firearms named in the ’94 Crime Bill are automatic!
>
>> =======================================================
>>Papa Jack replied:
>>Now where did I say it was a “radical stand” to stick up for the
>>Second Amendment? I stick up for the Second Amendment.
>>
>>However, I do think the government can and should place some
>>outside limits on the types of weapons which private citizens
>>may own. The most obvious example is atomic/nuclear weapons.
>>I would also get a bit nervous if my neighbor had a tank or
>>certain types of artillery.
>>
>>I know the Second Amendment didn’t make allowances for such
>>limitations, but my common sense also tells me that the
>>Founding Fathers didn’t envision A-bombs either when they
>>wrote it. Instead, they envisioned the sort of militia that
>>had just won the Revolution — thousands of individuals grab-
>>bing their own single shot rifles off the mantelpiece and
>>answering the call of patriotism.
>
>You mean private citizens owned the same state of the art weapons
>issued to the army? Shocking…

>>jackbooted thugs into our homes to confiscate ALL guns of any sort.
>
>Are you saying the people who legally own semi-automatic AR-15 should
>be willing to sacrafice their property to the government so hunters
>will be spared the indignity of having their sniper-rifles taken?
>
>>And, the Supreme Court will be helping them justify their actions by
>>some sort of “emanations of penumbras.”
>>
>>Have a nice Thanksgiving.
>>–
>>{ Papa Jack
>>{
>>{ http://www.express-news.net/papajack -Page doesn`t exist anymore
>>
>> “We hold these truths to be self evident, that all
>> men are created equal; that they are endowed by
>> their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that
>> among these, are life, liberty, and the pursuit of
>> happiness.” –Thomas Jefferson

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Bruce Forest:
Milton Wong is viciously bigoted against homosexuals. What makes you
think he would oppose any other bigotry?

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>In
>[email protected] (Bruce Forest) writes:
>
>>I have repeatedly asked him why he never mentions Pol Pot, or Idi
^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^
>>Amin, or Mao, or Stalin, or Torquemada. He never replies; he only
^^ ^^^^ ^^ ^^^^^^
call
>>me ‘Goebbels’ and keeps making allusions to the Nazis.

I find it interesting that Mr. Gore has not, as far as I can recall,
condemned or made analogies (however false) to Communist murders.
—
[email protected]
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wanting to be by oneself,
being capable of being different, standing alone…” -Friedrich Nietzsche
“Identity is shaped through confict and opposition.” -Camille Paglia

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In <[email protected]> Dave writes:
>
>[email protected] wrote:
>>
>> Dave wrote:
>>
>> >Go back to core values. Don’t “live and let live”. There ARE
certain
>> >moral absolutes. Stand by them. This country WAS founded on
>> >Judeo-Christian beliefs – Christians avoiding religious persecution
in
>> >England – so let’s try to get back some of what we lost.
>>
>> Core values? Murder? Torture? Genocide? Those are the core
results.
>> No, we don’t want to go back to a total lack of ethics.
>
>Genocide?? Where? Only when it was in opposition to God. Murder?? In
>war?? Turture? Where? Stonings? That was a justifiable punishment for
>sin in Hebrew society. Not the norm. And what’s the fear anyways. Are
>you afraid of justice?? Obviously we, as a society today are as
>evidenced by our total joke of a penal system, too few prisons, too
many
>criminals, incredibly short parole times, etc., etc., etc.
>>
>> This country was NOT founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs. The
>> separation of church and state is a prime indicator of that.
>
>Thomas Jefferson coined the term. But that is hardly proof of your
>statement. And sorry, it was founded on Judeo-Christian ethics. Does
the
>term Pilgrim ring a bell? Especially today. They left England and went
>to Holland to escape religious persecution. That’s why they cruised
>here!

G. K. Chesterton once noted that we Americans have a Thanksgiving to
celebrate the arrival of the Puritans here — and suggested that the
English have a Thanksgiving to celebrate their leaving England. har!
har! My sentiments exactly. Happy Thanksgiving!
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wanting to be by oneself,
being capable of being different, standing alone…” -Friedrich Nietzsche
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In [email protected] (Ole Kreiberg)
writes:
>
>In article <[email protected]>, Steven Malcolm Ande
wrote:
>>
>> Crawl back into your hole, Nazi scum.
>>
>I am not a nazi, and I have never been.

You might as well be, the way you talk about Jews.

But anyway, why should I pay the
>victims of Adolph Hitler more respect than the victims of Djengis
Khan?

For the same reason you don’t laugh at a funeral. Many of their
relatives are still alive and still mourning over the loved ones they
lost in the camps.

>Ole Kreiberg http://login.dknet.dk/~olk Page doesn`t exist anymore

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In [email protected] (Ole Kreiberg)
writes:
>
>In article ,
Bruce Forest wrote:
>>
>>So, legal safe abortion is worse than the Shoah. In addition to
obviously
>>knowing NOTHING about the Holocaust, you have just offended million
of
>>people, and insulted the memory of millions more.
>>
>>You have no right to post obscenity like that, and I will prevent you
from
>>doing so.
>>
> Hey I do not owe the alleged victims of the socalled holocaust
anything.
>I could not care less if some Jews get offended or feel that some
memory
>is insulted. I think that time has come for the world to forget the
>holocaust, whether it happened or not. The Jews and Germans can
remember it
>but not the rest of the world. One thing is certain, more human beings
have
>been exterminated by abortion than by the alleged holocaust.

Crawl back into your hole, Nazi scum.

>Ole Kreiberg http://login.dknet.dk/~olk -Page doesn`t exist anymore

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In <[email protected]> Amazon writes:

>So if the Hebrews did NOT build the pyramids, what was the racial
>make-up of the slaves that did build the pyramids?
The Egyptians were very mixed racially. The pyramids were not built by
slaves, but by farmers during the flood seasons. And the pyramids were
ancient by the time the Hebrews (along with some other peoples) made
their appearance in Egypt. Don’t get your history from Hollywood.
>Amazon

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In
[email protected] (Sara aka Perrrfect) writes:
>
>In article ,
[email protected]
>(Robert) wrote:
>
>> >”The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded
on the
>> >Christian religion.”
>> > George Washington, 1796
>> What a priceless qoute;)..(but denying the fact that the US SOCIETY
>> makes up the US State;)
>
>What in goodness’ name is the US State?

>> btw..where did you find that;) could you point me to the excact
>> quote;)?

>> Greetings from Germany

>> Robert

>I’ve seen this quote in various places. My specific source is _Ain’t
>Nobody’s Business if you Do_ by Peter MacWilliams. It’s also quoted in
>Frank Zappa’s autobiography. I do not know specifically where
Washington
>said it.

He wrote it in a letter on the treaty with Tripoli.

>Sara

>”The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on
the
>Christian religion.”
> George Washington, 1796

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In [email protected] (Ole Kreiberg)
writes:
>
>In article <[email protected]>, Steven Malcolm Ande
wrote:
>>In [email protected] (Ole
Kreiberg)
>>>>
>>>> Crawl back into your hole, Nazi scum.
>>>>
>>>I am not a nazi, and I have never been.
>>
>> You might as well be, the way you talk about Jews.
>
> Criticising the Jews or failing to symphatizing with them are the
same
>as being a nazi in your opinion.

Criticizing Jews as individuals is not the same as attacking “the
Jews” as a group, as you do. The latter _is_ bigotry. If you don’t want
to be a bigot, then learn to judge people as individuals.

Did the Palestinians become “nazis” after
>the zionists had grabbed their country?

Are you referring to the 1967 war when the Arab nations attacked
Israel and lost? A nation, such as Israel, has every right to defend
itself, and to take steps, as did Israel, to prevent such an attack in
the future.

>> For the same reason you don’t laugh at a funeral. Many of their
>>relatives are still alive and still mourning over the loved ones they
>>lost in the camps.
>>
> I could not care what the Jews are doing over their past.

I think you do care or you wouldn’t post this crap.

I do not
>expect the Jews to pay any particular respect for my dead relatives
>that died more than fifty years ago, even if they were murdered by
somebody.

If they showed the same disrespect to you that you show to them, you’d
be pissed as hell.

>Why do the Jews keep bothering the world with their holocaust story
after
>all these years?

Because they don’t want it repeated.

>Returning to the subject. What is a fetus? A human being or a subhuman
>being? If it you consider it a subhuman being, does that give you the
right
>to kill it?

I do not regard a fetus as human. There is no comparison whatever
between what a woman decides to do with her own body and its contents
and what went on at Auschwitz or any other concentration camp, Nazi or
Communist.

> And please do not call be a nazi just because I refuse to believe in
>the holocaust.

I call you a Nazi because of your hateful in-your-face attitude toward
Jewish people. You certainly do have the right to express your beliefs
or disbeliefs or, in this case, your obvious hatred for “the Jews”,
just as a Communist has the right to burn the American flag. But, like
the flag-burning Communist, you can damn well expect other people to be
pissed as hell at you.

>Ole Kreiberg http://login.dknet.dk/~olk -Page doesn`t exist anymore

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There is no comparison whatever between what a woman decides to do
with her body and its contents and what went on at Auschwitz or any
other concentration camp, Nazi or Communist.
—
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“The concept of ‘greatness’ entails being noble,
wanting to be by oneself,
being capable of being different, standing alone…” -Friedrich Nietzsche
“Identity is shaped through confict and opposition.” -Camille Paglia

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In
Harvin Queen writes:
>
>On 1 Dec 1996, Steven Malcolm Anderson wrote:
>
>> >So if the Hebrews did NOT build the pyramids, what was the racial
>> >make-up of the slaves that did build the pyramids?
>>
>> The Egyptians were very mixed racially. The pyramids were not built
by
>> slaves, but by farmers during the flood seasons. And the pyramids
were
>> ancient by the time the Hebrews (along with some other peoples) made
>> their appearance in Egypt. Don’t get your history from Hollywood.
>
>1. *Ahem* not to quibble too much, but slaves DID build the pyramids.

No, they didn’t.

>2. As far as the pyramids being ancient by the time the Hebrews
>appeared?? Uhhmmmm… exactly WHO do you believe lived in Egypt to
build
>the pyramids??

EGYPTIANS!!!!

>Please o please o please dont follow the Charleton Heston movies.
Please
>dont give me a tale about the “Great White

As I said, the Egyptians were very mixed racially.

Exodus” from Egypt, followed by
>the mass Pilgrimage TO Egypt by the Hebrews who inherited empty cities
and
>pyramids in the distance?

The Hebrews didn’t appear in Egypt until the Empire (New Kingdom) or
the Hyksos interregnum at the very earliest. That’s a long time after
the pyramids were built (Old Kingdom). As I said, READ some history.
You can’t get it from movies.

>- Harv (hoping he wont hear anything too outlandish)

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In <32[email protected]> [email protected] (Leprechan) writes:

> It is not a good reflection upon the college (or the IQ test for
>that matter) that it turns out people who believe the hebrews built
>the pyramids or that the hebrews were ever in Egypt.

The Hebrews did come under the domain of the Egyptian empire (New
Kingdom) and may have migrated into Egypt, along with other peoples,
during the Hyksos interregnum. They were not in Egypt earlier (e.g.,
during the Middle Kingdom) and certainly not during the time when the
pyramids were being built (Old Kingdom).

> So it is quite clear, there was never a Moses, no Commandments,
no
>relationship with a god, no Mosaic Law, no dietary laws, no foundation
>for being Jewish other than primitive tribal superstition regarding
>events that never happened to people who never existed.

Any religion is a matter of faith and can be neither proved nor
disproved. Whatever you want to believe or not out of the Bible (Old or
New Testament) or out of any other book you hold sacred, the Vedas, the
Eddas, or the Egyptian Book Of The Dead, is your own business. Just
don’t confuse it with the Constitution! Read the 1st Amendment. You’re
free to exercise your religion and I’m free to exercise mine and the
government stays out of it altogether.

> Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

It seems we have people on all sides trying to re-write history:
people who get their history from Hollywood and want to believe that
the pyramids were built by enslaved Hebrews or by extraterrestials or
whatever (anybody but the Egyptians themselves, apparently!) — and
professional Jew-haters/racists who want to believe that Hebrews/Jews
accomplished nothing significant in history and suffered only minor
inconveniences during World War II.
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In [email protected] (Ole Kreiberg)
writes:
>
>In article ,
Bruce Forest wrote:
>
>>To prevent asssholes like you from trying to convince the world the
Shoah
>>never happened. You are a well known anti-semite on alt.revisionism.
>>
> Because I dare to disagree with the Jews I am supposed to be an
>anti-semite 😀 😀
>–
>Ole Kreiberg http://login.dknet.dk/~olk – page doesn`t exist anymore

If you attack “the Jews” as a group, rather than simply disagree with
particular Jews as individuals, then, yes, you _are_ bigoted. And, yes,
if you have an agenda of minimizing the suffering of Jews during World
War II, then that also shows that you are bigoted.
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