Article 2-1, Anderson Steven Malcolm

TJ \”Spark\” Miller jr.”writes:
In <[email protected]> ”
>
>Steven Malcolm Anderson wrote:
>>
>> In <[email protected]> [email protected] (Craig
Chilton)
>> writes:
>>
>> >>> That is not extremism, PJ. It is a recognition of the fact
>> >>> that anti-choicers share a common fault that was exhibited by
>> >>> neo-Nazis and KKK members: bigotry. The targets are different.
>> >>> For the neo-Nazis, it was Jews. For the KKK, it was blacks.
For
>> >>> the anti-choicers, it is women, and their right to have their
>> ^^ ^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^
>> >>> full range of options just as men do, without being
discriminated
>> ^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^^^ ^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >>> against just because they can become pregnant. The common
>> ^^^^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^
>> >>> thread linking all of those folks is the serious fault of being
>> >>> guilty of practicing bigotry.
>>
>> That next to last sentence sums up _exactly_ what the pro-choice
vs.
>> no-choice debate comes down to.
>> —
>
>So shoving a pair of scissors into a half-born baby’s skull is somehow
a
>noble thing, to be guaranteed for any woman who figures that
convenience
>takes precedent over life?

If women had more access to contraceptives and RU-486, these
relatively late-term abortions would not be so necessary. But _some_
pro-lifers have another agenda. Yes, I _do_ regard a woman pursuing her
own choices as far nobler than forcing her to conform to a stereotyped
role.

>If preventing this type of baby-killing is somehow bigoted, then I
guess
>by your logic, all those Jewish folks who spoke out against the SS
>during WWII were actually bigoted against the “Aryan” Race……
>
>–
>x-Signature: T J Miller jr:
>”The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal”
> -Aristotle (384-322 BC)
>Member in Good Standing of:
>Jim Kennemur’s “you’re a right wing asshole” club.
>(applications now being taken)

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From: [email protected](Steven Malcolm Anderson)
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In <[email protected]> [email protected](william
m hebler ) writes:
>
>In <[email protected]> Dash
writes:
>
>>
>>Many people have written:
>>
>>> “Cars kill by accident; guns kill by design” — S. Brady
>>
>>When is it that the lovers of this little sound bite are going to
>>realize that the actual issue is not even being addressed. Neither
car
>>nor gun can do anything, unless it is made to do so by a living,
>>breathing and (hopefully) thinking *human being*.
>>A rock is a rock, neither by accident nor design. But it can kill if
>>used as a weapon (you guessed it), by a *human being*.

>They don’t care about the issue. If they cared about the issue, they
>would be arguing for stiffer prison terms and punishments for people
>who commit crimes with or without guns. If they cared about the issue
>they wouldn’t be worrying about taking away my rights to own any damn
>thing I want to own. They are so misguided. They are so emotional.
>They actually think their efforts will take weapons out of the hands
of
>people who would use them to commit crimes. Guns are probably the
>greatest invention of man…they put everyone on equal terms. I wish
>more people had them.

If more women had guns, there would be fewer rapists.

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> “The Christian Coalition is a growing and responsible group in the
Republican
> party and I think that is good news. We need groups like the
Christian Coalition
> working for us.”
> -Bob Dole, (Associated Press newswire, 2-10-96)

The so-called “Christian Coalition”/”Moral Majority”/ad nauseum is a
CANCER on the Republican party.
“Government should stay out of people’s private lives.”
-Barry Goldwater

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> “The Christian Coalition is a growing and responsible group in the
Republican
> party and I think that is good news. We need groups like the
Christian Coalition
> working for us.”
> -Bob Dole, (Associated Press newswire, 2-10-96)

The so-called “Christian Coalition”/”Moral Majority”/ad nauseum is a
CANCER on the Republican party.
“Government should stay out of people’s private lives.”
-Barry Goldwater

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wanting to be by oneself,
being capable of being different, standing alone…” -Friedrich Nietzsche
“Identity is shaped through confict and opposition.” -Camille Paglia

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Only a racist shit-for-brains gives a shit whether their skin was
black, white or green.

In [email protected] (Adam Blum)
writes:
>
>CRIME WATCH: Alexandria, Arlington, Falls Church
>
>By Donna Mackie
>
>Thursday, September 26 1996; Page V07 The Washington Post
>
>The following were among crime reports received recently by the
Alexandria
>Police Department.
>
>ASSAULTS
>
>EXECUTIVE AVE., 3800 block, 5:30 p.m. Sept. 17. A man was shot in the
chin
>with a pellet gun as he was leaving a residence. He was treated at
>Alexandria Hospital and released.
>
>ROBBERIES
>
>DUKE ST., 5800 block, 1:11 p.m. Sept. 15. A man in a store robbed an
>employee at gunpoint of cash from a register while a woman acted as a
>lookout at the front of the store.
>
>EISENHOWER AVENUE AND METRO ROAD, 3 p.m. Sept. 11. A woman, 63, walked
>from the Metro station and got into a taxi. A male came up and forced
his
>way into the back seat of the cab, struggled with the woman and tried
>unsuccessfully to steal her purse, then fled with her watch.
>
>GLEBE RD. W., 200 block, 10:05 p.m. Sept. 13. Two men, one who implied
he
>had a gun, robbed an employee in a business of money from a cash
register,
>then fled on foot with two males who were waiting outside.
>
>MOUNT VERNON AVE., 3400 block, 5:47 a.m. Sept. 14. A man who implied
he
>had a gun robbed an employee in a business of money from a cash
register,
>then fled on a bicycle.
>
>THEFTS/BREAK-INS
>
>DUKE ST., 1600 block, 3:30 p.m. Sept. 13 to 7 a.m. Sept. 16. Cash and
a
>computer were stolen from a business entered by forcing a door.
>
>DUKE ST., 1600 block, 6 p.m. Sept. 13 to 11:30 a.m. Sept. 16. A
portable
>CD player was stolen from a business entered by forcing a door.
>
>GADSBY LANE, 2500 block, 4 p.m. Sept. 12 to 10:30 a.m. Sept. 14. A TV
was
>stolen from a residence.
>
>KING ST., 1-100 block, 4 p.m. Sept. 7 to 11 a.m. Sept. 8. Beer was
stolen
>from an unlocked houseboat.
>
>OAKCREST DR., 1700 block, 7:30 p.m. Sept. 11. A wallet and business
>documents were stolen from a residence.
>
>PARK CENTER DR., 2600 block, 8 a.m. Sept. 9 to 3:30 p.m. Sept. 11.
Cash
>and a gift certificate were stolen from a residence.
>
>RIPPON PLACE, 1600 block, 6 p.m. Sept. 3 to 11:50 p.m. Sept. 11.
Jewelry,
>a camera and a portable radio were stolen from a residence.
>
>ROYAL ST. N., 400 block, 1:25 to 1:40 a.m. Sept. 10. A purse, a TV and
>cash were stolen from a residence entered by kicking open a rear door.
>
>SHIRLINGTON RD., 2800 block, 4:30 p.m. Sept. 14 to 7 a.m. Sept. 16. A
>stereo was stolen from a government building.
>
>VIRGINIA AVE., 400 block, 7 a.m. Sept. 11 to 4:30 p.m. Sept. 13. A
bicycle
>was stolen from a garage entered through an unlocked door.
>
>MOTOR VEHICLE THEFTS
>
>ARMISTEAD ST. N., 400 block, 11 p.m. Sept. 10 to 7:30 Sept. 11. A red
1995
>Toyota Corolla was stolen.
>
>COLFAX AVE., 5000 block, 2 to 7 a.m. Sept. 17. A dark blue 1989 Ford
>Bronco was stolen.
>
>DUKE ST., 5000 block, 8 p.m. Sept. 2 to 9 a.m. Sept. 3. Two 1996 Ford
>E-250 U-Haul trucks were stolen.
>
>EISENHOWER AVE., 5000 block, 7:30 a.m. to 3 p.m. Sept. 9. A black and
gray
>1990 Chevrolet Suburban truck was stolen.
>
>HARWICH CT., 5700 block, 6:45 p.m. Sept. 15 to 5:39 a.m. Sept. 16. A
white
>1994 Honda Accord was stolen.
>
>LINCOLNIA RD., 6000 block, 11:26 a.m. Sept. 11. A brown 1983 Datsun
Maxima
>was stolen.
>
>OAKWOOD TER., 600 block, 8 p.m. Sept. 16 to 10 a.m. Sept. 17. A white
1992
>Cadillac DeVille was stolen.
>
>PARK CENTER DR., 3000 block, 7 p.m. Sept. 15 to 9 a.m. Sept. 16. A
white
>1991 Honda Accord LX was stolen.
>
>PICKETT ST. N., 2200 block, 9 p.m. Sept. 15 to 7:15 a.m. Sept. 16. A
jade
>green 1996 Honda Accord was stolen.
>
>PORTNER RD., 1100 block, 8 p.m. Sept. 15 to 7:30 a.m. Sept. 16. A
maroon
>1992 Honda Accord was stolen.
>
>WHITING ST. S., 200 block, 6:30 p.m. Sept. 12 to 9:50 a.m. Sept. 13. A
>burgundy 1996 Acura Integra was stolen.
>
>Arlington
>
>The following are among crime reports received recently by the
Arlington
>County Police Department. For more information, call 703-358-4050.
>
>ROBBERIES
>
>JEFFERSON DAVIS HWY. S., 1200 block, 2:15 p.m. Sept. 15. Two men, one
>armed with a gun, confronted a woman, 44, as she was putting a gym bag
in
>her car, then stole the car, a gray, two-door 1990 BMW 325i.
>
>ASSAULTS
>
>STUART ST. N., 1300 block, 12:20 p.m. Sept. 11. As a youth, 14, was
>walking to school, 12 youths, one armed with a gun, got out of two
>vehicles and confronted him. They asked him if he was a certain
person.
>When he said he was not, they asked him if he knew where that person
could
>be found. No injuries were reported.
>
>ROBBERIES
>
>COLUMBIA PIKE, 2400 block, 8:20 a.m. Sept. 16. A man came up behind a
>woman, 25, and grabbed her purse, then fled in a tan Oldsmobile 98
driven
>by a male.
>
>FERN ST. S., 2700 block, 9:15 p.m. Sept. 12. When a woman, 82,
answered a
>knock at the door of her residence, a man sprayed a chemical substance
in
>her face, forced his way into the residence and fled with the woman’s
>purse.
>
>GEORGE MASON DR. S., 1300 block, 1 a.m. Sept. 15. Three males in a
yellow,
>two-door 1988 Honda Prelude blocked the vehicle of a man, 28, who was
>looking for a parking space. Two of the males hit the man and tried to
>take his wallet, then fled when the man shouted for police.
>
>WALTER REED DR. S., 2600 block, 10:55 p.m. Sept. 15. A woman and her
>husband confronted a man as he was putting their bicycles into his
>vehicle. The man displayed a gun and the couple retreated to their
house.
>
>THEFTS/BREAK-INS
>
>ABINGDON ST. N., 700 block, 12:30 to 6:30 p.m. Sept. 12. Shoes were
stolen
>from a residence entered by breaking a pane of glass in the front
door.
>
>GLEBE RD. N., 1-100 block, 4 p.m. Sept. 15 to 4:17 a.m. Sept. 16. A
>computer system, a copy machine, a cell phone and a fax machine were
>stolen from an automotive business entered by forcing the front door.
>
>GREENBRIER ST. S., 800 block. A fax machine was stolen from an
apartment
>building office entered by forcing a door.
>
>LOWELL ST. S., 2400 block, 11:30 p.m. Sept. 14 to 11 a.m. Sept. 15.
Coins
>were stolen from a residence entered through a previously broken
window.
>
>THOMAS ST. N., 100 block, 8:45 a.m. Sept. 16. A man forced his way
into
>the apartment of a female acquaintance. An Arlington man, 29, was
>arrested.
>
>WILSON BLVD., 1500 block, 6 to 7 p.m. Sept. 12. Two lap-top computers
were
>stolen from an office entered with a key.
>
>WILSON BLVD., 2600 block, 6:20 p.m. Sept. 11 to 8:30 a.m. Sept. 12.
Money,
>a TV, a VCR and stereo speakers were stolen from a thrift shop. Also
>reported stolen was a brown/tan 1985 Chevrolet van.
>
>WILSON BLVD., 3200 block, 8:15 to 9:45 p.m. Sept. 11. A store was
entered
>by forcing a door. Nothing was reported missing.
>
>WOLFE ST. S., 1100 block, 9:15 p.m. Sept. 11 to 8:07 a.m. Sept. 12. A
TV
>was stolen from a residence entered by forcing a rear door.
>
>10TH ST. N., 5100 block, 6:45 a.m. Sept. 12 to 7:30 a.m. Sept. 13.
Jewelry
>was stolen from a residence entered by forcing a rear door.
>
>13TH RD. S., 1600 block, 10 p.m. Sept. 13 to 7 a.m. Sept. 14. A
computer
>and monitor, a printer and a fax machine were stolen from a church.
>
>Falls Church
>
>The following were among the crime reports received recently by the
Falls
>Church Police Department. For more information, call 703-241-5004.
>
>KIDNAPPINGS
>
>WASHINGTON ST. S., 400 block, 1:30 a.m. Sept. 15. During an
altercation at
>a pizza restaurant, two men assaulted a man, pointed a gun to his head
and
>handcuffed him.
>
>ASSAULTS
>
>WASHINGTON ST. S., 400 block, 1:30 a.m. Sept. 15. Two men at a pizza
>restaurant accused each other of assault. A Vienna man, 30, was
arrested
>and charged with impersonating a police officer.
>
>THEFTS/BREAK-INS
>
>BROAD ST. E., 100 block, 6:05 p.m. Sept. 16 to 7:55 a.m. Sept. 17. A
>notebook computer and other property were stolen from a business
entered
>by forcing a side door.
>
>BROAD ST. E., 1000 block, July 2 to Aug. 1. A 1996 Ford Escort was
stolen
>from a car dealership.
>
>BROAD ST. W., 200 block, 9 a.m. Sept. 13. A gas grill and two food
>preparation tables were stolen from a restaurant kitchen.
>
>BROAD ST. W., 1100 block, 6 p.m. Sept. 9 to 7 a.m. Sept. 10. An
attempt
>was made to enter an auto parts business by forcing the
double-cylinder
>deadbolt door lock.
>
>FOWLER ST., 1000 block, 6 p.m. Sept. 8 to 9 a.m. Sept. 11. A stereo
was
>stolen from a truck.
>
>GEORGE MASON RD. W., 200 block, 11 p.m. Sept. 11 to 7:39 a.m. Sept.
12. A
>stereo and a purse were stolen from a vehicle entered by breaking a
>window.
>
>GREENWAY BLVD. W., 100 block, 12:01 to 4:16 a.m. Sept. 12. A stereo
and a
>nylon bag containing five diskettes were stolen from a locked car.
>
>GREENWAY BLVD. W., 100 block, 11 p.m. Sept. 11 to 4:20 a.m. Sept. 12.
A
>stereo was stolen from a car entered by breaking a window, and a
stereo
>and speakers were stolen from a truck entered by breaking a window.
>
>GREENWAY BLVD. W., 200 block, 9 p.m. Sept. 11 to noon Sept. 12. A CD
>player was stolen from a vehicle entered by breaking a window.
>
>HAYCOCK RD., 100 block, 6 p.m. Sept. 14 to 9 a.m. Sept. 15. A bicycle
was
>stolen.
>
>HILLWOOD AVE., 1-100 block, 12:01 a.m. Sept. 10 to 10:16 a.m. Sept.
11.
>Four tires and wheels were taken from two vehicles at a taxi company.
>
>PARK AVE., 200 block, 5 p.m. Sept. 13 to 10:30 a.m. Sept. 14. A 1996
Ford
>Ranger parked at an office building was stolen. It was recovered Sept.
16
>at the same location.
>
>WASHINGTON ST. N., 300 block, 10 a.m. Sept. 16. A job log and a
shipping
>log were stolen from an office in an office building.
>
>WASHINGTON ST. S., 800 block, Aug. 28 to Sept. 6. Two unauthorized
>withdrawals were made from an automated teller machine at a
convenience
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>WESTMORELAND RD. W., 100 block, 6:30 p.m. Sept. 11 to 3:55 a.m. Sept.
12.
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>WILSON BLVD., 6700 block, 12:12 a.m. Sept. 17. Gas was stolen from a
gas
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>VANDALISM
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>ELLISON ST., 900 block, 10 p.m. Sept. 14 to 7 a.m. Sept. 15. Four
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>ELLISON ST., 900 block, 1 to 10 a.m. Sept. 16. A tire of a vehicle was
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>LEESBURG PIKE, 7100 block, 10:30 a.m. to noon Sept. 17. A rear plastic
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>PARK AVE., 100 block, 7 p.m. Sept. 12 to 9 a.m. Sept. 13. A wooden
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>Copyright 1996 The Washington Post Company
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From [email protected] Wed Oct 2 10:34:27 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected](Steven Malcolm Anderson)
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In [email protected] (mark)
writes:
>
>In article <[email protected]>, Melanie wrote:
>> Brian E. Seppanen wrote:

…and you believe that the
>government should be Really Big Government, and want to institute Big
>Brother, so the Government can look into every bedroom, and make sure
>that only people with licenses to fuck, excuse me, state-chartered
>marriages, are having sex….

Get Big Brother OUT of our bedrooms!!!!

> mark “it’s not like the urge to reproduce as soon as we could
> was hard-wired into our genes, nah, that would only
> be true if evolution was true….”

I, for one, have no urge to reproduce at all. All of my sexual urges
are gratified without any reproduction at all. Thank Goddess.

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“Identity is shaped through confict and opposition.” -Camille Paglia

From [email protected] Wed Oct 2 10:34:28 PDT 1996
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In <[email protected]> “TJ \”Spark\” Miller jr.”
writes:
>
>Milt wrote:

>> Your “right-thinking, decent people are always trying to censor
>> others, while claiming free speech on anything they want to say.

I, for one, am against censorship, period. As well as gun control.

>Uh, Milt? you’re drooling on your keyboard there, bud…..
>
>> After
>> all, it wasn’t libs who tried to kill “Playboy” and “penthouse”…
>
>No, they just want our kids to have easier access to it.

I notice that both censors and gun-controllers are always using
“protect the children” as a pretext for undermining the First and
Second Amendment rights of adults.

>–
>x-Signature: T J Miller jr:
>”The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal”
> -Aristotle (384-322 BC)
>Member in Good Standing of:
>Jim Kennemur’s “you’re a right wing asshole” club.
>(applications now being taken)

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From [email protected] Wed Oct 2 10:34:29 PDT 1996
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In <[email protected]> [email protected] (Zepp) polluted
the cyberspace with this:

>Snip paranoid gun rant.

Typical gun control lobby rhetoric. You must be “paranoid” if you
don’t trust government with a monopoly on guns. “He loved Big Brother.”

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From [email protected] Wed Oct 2 11:28:53 PDT 1996
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In <[email protected]> “TJ \”Spark\” Miller jr.”
writes:
>
>Milt wrote:

>> Your “right-thinking, decent people are always trying to censor
>> others, while claiming free speech on anything they want to say.

I, for one, am against censorship, period. As well as gun control.

>Uh, Milt? you’re drooling on your keyboard there, bud…..
>
>> After
>> all, it wasn’t libs who tried to kill “Playboy” and “penthouse”…
>
>No, they just want our kids to have easier access to it.

I notice that both censors and gun-controllers are always using
“protect the children” as a pretext for undermining the First and
Second Amendment rights of adults.

>x-Signature: T J Miller jr:
>”The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal”
> -Aristotle (384-322 BC)
>
>Member in Good Standing of:
>Jim Kennemur’s “you’re a right wing asshole” club.
>(applications now being taken)

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In <[email protected]> [email protected] (Zepp) polluted
the cyberspace with this:

>Snip paranoid gun rant.

Typical gun control lobby rhetoric. You must be “paranoid” if you
don’t trust government with a monopoly on guns. “He loved Big Brother.”

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From [email protected] Wed Oct 2 11:28:55 PDT 1996
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In <[email protected]> [email protected] (Steve D. Fischer)
writes:
>
>In article <[email protected]>,
>Dash wrote:
>>Many people have written:
>>
>>> “Cars kill by accident; guns kill by design” — S. Brady
>>
>>When is it that the lovers of this little sound bite are going to
>>realize that the actual issue is not even being addressed. Neither
car
>>nor gun can do anything, unless it is made to do so by a living,
>>breathing and (hopefully) thinking *human being*.
>>A rock is a rock, neither by accident nor design. But it can kill if
>>used as a weapon (you guessed it), by a *human being*.
>
> So what if guns kill by design? So what? Some people deserve
>to be killed (self-defense). Guns fulfill that need nicely.

Exactly. Gun controllers don’t believe in self-defense. The gun
control lobby wants everybody to just turn the other cheek, lie down
and be raped.

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From [email protected] Thu Oct 3 11:43:06 PDT 1996
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In <[email protected]> Kenneth Gore writes:
>
>Erik & Angela wrote:

>> > So, work to improve access to birth control. Or work to remove
some of
>> > the reasons women seek abortions.
>
>> > Larry McKnight
>> > (this space unintentionally left blank…..
>>
>> Gimme a break. This is an old and idiotic argument. Birth control
is
>> more available in this country than friggin Big Mac.
>>
>> Any drug store carries condoms… Planned Parenthood gives them
away
>> for free…

I find it interesting that PP is so often vilified by pro-lifers
(almost as much the NRA [they must be doing _something_ right!] is by
the gun control lobby)* as evil abortion-promoters — and yet by
promoting contraception, they are obviously _preventing_ abortions.
Could it be that it’s contraception that some of these pro-lifers
really hate? If abortion is banned, can contraception be far behind?

* Yes, I’m pro-choice on _both_ issues, guns _and_ abortion!

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In <[email protected]> [email protected] (keith) writes:
>
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says…
>>
>>[email protected] (Brian Carey) wrote:
>
>>>Craig Chilton ([email protected]) wrote:
>>>:
>>>: > This is scary. Plain and simple.
>>>:
>>>: NOT scary. Not at ALL scary. No more “scary” than it is to
>>>: take an aspirin to eliminate an unwanted headache.
>>
>>>Hmmmm… comparing an unborn baby to a headache? The barbarism of
the
>>>pro-death crowd never ceases to amaze me.
>>
>> That’s okay. Because the capability of the anti-choice
>>crowd to constantly and fanatically attempt to ascribe value to
>>something that does yet HAVE any worth never ceases to amaze we
>>who are pro-choice humanitarians, either.
>
> Has no worth. How Hitler of you. Tell you what. Take a survey of
women
>who are less than 3 months pregnant and ask them if the embryo has no
worth.

Obviously, it has worth _to them_. If they want the child, that is.
Otherwise, they seek abortions. Are they Hitlers if they do so?

>> You, who would choose
>>to uncompassionately destroy the life options of countless
>>millions of women in favor of defending something does not yet
>>even exist.
>
> That’s right. child bearing is destroying women. Goddammit!!!

So, women have a _duty_ to bear children, want them or not? Are _you_
willing to adopt all the unwanted babies?

>> People just don’t GET more callous and irrational than THAT.
>
> Sure they do. They terminate a potential life on the matter of
convenience.

What if the government forced _you_ to give up _your_ career to
satisfy some agenda you didn’t agree with, say, “animal rights”? Or
what if they forced you to be nothing but a sperm donor for nine months
or the rest of your life, because your “natural role” is to reproduce?
“Inconvenient”, huh?

>keith

>> –Craig Chilton [email protected]

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wanting to be by oneself,
being capable of being different, standing alone…” -Friedrich Nietzsche
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From [email protected] Fri Oct 4 07:45:16 PDT 1996
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In <[email protected]> [email protected] (Brad
Barnhill) writes:
>
>[email protected] (deano) wrote:

>>Myself, I would rather not sit out the
>>election and let Bill Clinton appoint another crop of activist
^^^^^^^^
liberal
>>judges,

You’ve been sold some prime real estate in Antarctica on that one. The
attack on “activist judges” was invented by the ANTI-individual,
“pro-family”, “Moral Majority”, totalitarian element in the Republican
party to smear judges like William O. Douglas, Hugo Black, Harry
Blackmun, John Paul Stevens, etc., for upholding our individual
Constitutional rights, such as privacy and free speech. The
totalitarians want the government to ban homosexuality, abortion,
contraception, pornography, etc., and they don’t want the courts to
stand in the way of that agenda. They want the Prez to appoint only
jerks like that scumbag Robert Bork who will sit on their hands and say
“oh, well, you don’t really have a right to privacy” or “well, the
First Amendment doesn’t really protect pornography.” The attack on
“judicial activism” is totally ANTI-libertarian. (See Stephen Macedo’s
book “The New Right vs. The Constitution” for info on that scam.)

hand the U.S. military over to the U.N., take huge chunks of
>>land and resources as trophies for the hollywood ecology crowd, place
>>unfunded mandates on employers that will drive business out of the
>>country, socialize the health care industry, ‘fix’ that little
slip-up
>>that ended the ‘right’ to endless welfare, and escalate the liberal’s
>>war on gun owners, to name just a tiny few.

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In [email protected]
(Mike Schneider) writes:

> Whatever you say about
>Dornan, he’s not an “establishment” republican like Dole,

Dornan is a totalitarian scumbag who wants Big Brother in our
bedrooms. He’s no more “libertarian” than Josef Stalin.

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From [email protected] Sat Oct 5 10:28:54 PDT 1996
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In <[email protected]> Lucas Swineford writes:
>
>Max Kennedy wrote:
>>
>> [email protected] (Brad Barnhill) wrote:
>>
>> >This is _nothing_ compared to what we would gain from getting 15%
to
>> >20% of the vote: A party we would all be proud of, and a party
which
>> >the media can no longer ignore.
>>
>> 15-20% of the vote is LOSING.
>>
>> For the Socialis, err Democrats, 15-20% of the vote is WINNING.
>
> I agree that the Democrats will benefit if Libertarians vote
>Libertarian in this election. The Libertarian cause would be better
off
>with a Republican victory than with a Democratic victory. 15-20% of
the
>vote will not make the Libertarian party “a party which the media can
no
>longer ignore.” The media can, will, and routinely does ignore
>whatever the hell they want to ignore. A Democratic victory means 4
>more years of the media preaching socialist propaganda by pretending
to
>objectively report the administration’s latest activities. If Clinton
>wants an anti-porn law, the media will find a study by some “experts”
>who say that porn makes men rape.

The Reagan crowd did that one already. Remember the Meese Committee?

If Clinton wants to tax sports cars,
>the media will discuss some government statistic about global warming.
>If Clinton wants to raise taxes and set up government “retraining”
>centers, then they will find some “economist” who says that people
need
>retraining for the new “global economy”. If Clinton wants to make
>tabacco sales illegal, then CNN will show you some “random” “factoid”
>about how millions of people are “killed” by tabacco each year.

Gun control, too. They lie about guns all the time.

If the
>Republicans win, the media will be left with reporting the Republican
>administration’s activities by talking about people protesting Dole’s
>policies and by letting wacko leftists shout their drivel on TV.
>Summary – if Clinton wins, the media goes on defense; if Dole wins,
the
>media goes on offense. The media sucks either way, but if Dole wins,
we
>know the media will not be getting what they want.

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In [email protected] (Weed Eater
(munch munch)) writes:

>All that said I will vote Libertarian for senate, but that is because
I
>am represented by Jesse Helms and thus have no choice :).

Good. Because Jesse Helms is a despicable totalitarian scumbag.

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>>: “In all of these nearly 18 years that I have had the pleasure of
>>: my association with Bob Dole, I have never known Bob to give even
>>: a hint of breaking his word, because if ever there was a man in
>>: the U.S. Senate for whom we knew his word is his bond, that is
>>: Bob Dole.”
>>: — Nebraska Sen. James Exon (Congressional Record, 6/11/96)

James Exon is the jerk who wants to censor the net.

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In <[email protected]> [email protected] (deano)
writes:
>
>[email protected](Steven Malcolm Anderson) wrote:

>> You’ve been sold some prime real estate in Antarctica on that one.
The
>>attack on “activist judges” was invented by the ANTI-individual,
>>”pro-family”, “Moral Majority”, totalitarian element in the
Republican
>>party to smear judges like William O. Douglas, Hugo Black, Harry
>>Blackmun, John Paul Stevens, etc., for upholding our individual
>>Constitutional rights, such as privacy and free speech. The
>>totalitarians want the government to ban homosexuality, abortion,
>>contraception, pornography, etc., and they don’t want the courts to
>>stand in the way of that agenda. They want the Prez to appoint only
>>jerks like that scumbag Robert Bork who will sit on their hands and
say
>>”oh, well, you don’t really have a right to privacy” or “well, the
>>First Amendment doesn’t really protect pornography.” The attack on
>>”judicial activism” is totally ANTI-libertarian. (See Stephen
Macedo’s
>>book “The New Right vs. The Constitution” for info on that scam.)
>
>
> Activist judges of any stripe are an abomination to a nation of
>laws. Robert Bork was cast out, quite fortunately since he does not
>seem to understand that the Constitution sets forth and enumerates the
>limited powers of the federal government and that all other rights are
>reserved to the states and to the people and are not ‘found’ there.

He’s a totalitarian scumbag who denies individual rights.
The Tenth Amendment: “The powers not delegated to the United States by
the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to
the States respectively, _or to the people_.”
The Ninth Amendment: “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain
rights, shall _not_ be construed to deny or disparage others retained
by _the people_.”
The Second Amendment: “A well-regulated militia, being necessary to
the security of a _free_ [IOW, not socialist] State, the right of _the
people_ to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
(emphasis mine)
“States’ rights” is a fraud. Neither state nor federal governments
have rights, only _delegated_ and stringently _limited_ powers. Only
“the people” _as individuals_ have rights. State legislatures do not
own us. We are not their property.

> Judges who go beyond the intent of the law are usurping the powers
>of the legislative branch and thereby thwarting the (representative)
>will of the people.

The will of the majority _should_ be thwarted whenever it infringes on
individual rights.

Bork was thrown out on idealogical grounds, but
>since that time judicial activism doesn’t seem to be a disqualifying
>factor in Senate confirmations anymore.
> In cautioning against allowing Clinton another term I mentioned
>’activist liberal judges’, because the press does not campaign against
>them and they seldom fail confirmation on idealogical grounds.
>Although an ‘activist conservative judge’ might be just as bad, the
>danger of them being confirmed would be much less. Republicans are
>lucky if they can get a ‘constitutionalist’ confirmed, but you won’t
>see any of them appointed by Clinton.
> This drift toward rule by a judiciary unfettered by the intentions
>of the Constitution, the other branches of government, or the people
>is by no means good for libertarianism.

You think it’s good for libertarianism for us to accept the idea that
we are the property of state legislatures?

In fact, it may be that the
>only influence a lifetime appointed Justice is really swayed by is the
>desire to please the press and see good things said about them in the
>media.
> When was the last time you heard an activist liberal judge come
>down in favor of individual property rights against the demands of
>state, or the ‘public good’, or the ‘needs of the many’?

When was the last time you heard a Reaganoid appointee strike down a
gun control law?

>- deano
> ———————————————————-
> A faint blueish haze rises in the distance. You hear a
> deep and powerful sound, long forgotten. It suddenly grows
> until the earth trembles.
> Look! The next exit! It’s Deano’s MotorHead Page!
> ———————————————————-
> http://www.primenet.com/~deano/motorh.html page doesn`t
exist anymore |
> update: 09/17/96
>
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In [email protected]
(Mike Schneider) writes:
>
>In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected](Steven Malcolm Anderson) wrote:
>
>> In
[email protected]
>> (Mike Schneider) writes:
>>
>> > Whatever you say about
>> >Dornan, he’s not an “establishment” republican like Dole,
>>
>> Dornan is a totalitarian scumbag who wants Big Brother in our
>> bedrooms. He’s no more “libertarian” than Josef Stalin.

> Perhaps, but he’s LESS of a totalitarian scumbag than either
Clinton or Dole,

No, he isn’t.

and he positively LOATHES Clinton.

Stalin and Hitler fought also.

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In [email protected]
(Mike Schneider) writes:
>
>In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected](Steven Malcolm Anderson) wrote:
>
>> totalitarians want the government to ban homosexuality, abortion,
>> contraception, pornography, etc., and they don’t want the courts to
>> stand in the way of that agenda. They want the Prez to appoint only
>> jerks like that scumbag Robert Bork who will sit on their hands and
say
>> “oh, well, you don’t really have a right to privacy” or “well, the
>> First Amendment doesn’t really protect pornography.” The attack on
>> “judicial activism” is totally ANTI-libertarian. (See Stephen
Macedo’s
>> book “The New Right vs. The Constitution” for info on that scam.)

> Bork has also been recorded opining that he didn’t think the 2nd
Amendment didn’t “really” apply to handgun bans.
>
> Jerk.

Yup.

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In [email protected]
(Mike Schneider) writes:
>In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected](Steven Malcolm Anderson) wrote:
>> In
[email protected]
>> (Mike Schneider) writes:
>> > Whatever you say about
>> >Dornan, he’s not an “establishment” republican like Dole,
>> Dornan is a totalitarian scumbag who wants Big Brother in our
>> bedrooms. He’s no more “libertarian” than Josef Stalin.

> Perhaps, but he’s LESS of a totalitarian scumbag than either
Clinton or Dole,

No, he’s not.

and he positively LOATHES Clinton.

Stalin fought Hitler in World War II.

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In <[email protected]> [email protected] (keith) writes:
>
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says…
>>
>>In <[email protected]> [email protected] (keith) writes:
>>>
>>>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says…
>>>>
>>>>[email protected] (Brian Carey) wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Craig Chilton ([email protected]) wrote:
>>>>>:
>>>>>: > This is scary. Plain and simple.
>>>>>:
>>>>>: NOT scary. Not at ALL scary. No more “scary” than it is
to
>>>>>: take an aspirin to eliminate an unwanted headache.
>>>>
>>>>>Hmmmm… comparing an unborn baby to a headache? The barbarism of
>>the
>>>>>pro-death crowd never ceases to amaze me.
>>>>
>>>> That’s okay. Because the capability of the anti-choice
>>>>crowd to constantly and fanatically attempt to ascribe value to
>>>>something that does yet HAVE any worth never ceases to amaze we
>>>>who are pro-choice humanitarians, either.
>>>
>>> Has no worth. How Hitler of you. Tell you what. Take a survey of
>>women
>>>who are less than 3 months pregnant and ask them if the embryo has
no
>>worth.
>>
>> Obviously, it has worth _to them_. If they want the child, that is.
>>Otherwise, they seek abortions. Are they Hitlers if they do so?
>>
>
> The Hitler statement refers to the prior poster’s statement that the
> beginning of a life has no worth unless its carrier says so. It was
not
> reflecting on the woman who chooses to get one.
>
> You know this could on & on & on ad infinitum. You’re not talking to
a
>’let’s end all abortions’ position. However, it does occur to me that
> 1 1/2 million abortions a year has a allowed for a somewhat ‘casual’
> attitude regarding abortions.

1 1/2 million abortions a year is a lot of abortions. It would also be
a lot of adoptions.

> Personally, if you ask if I feel it’s a womans right to choose, I
would say
> yes. If you asked if I felt abortion is right, I’d say no 95%+ of the
time.
>
>>>> You, who would choose
>>>>to uncompassionately destroy the life options of countless
>>>>millions of women in favor of defending something does not yet
>>>>even exist.
>>>
>>> That’s right. child bearing is destroying women. Goddammit!!!
>>
>> So, women have a _duty_ to bear children, want them or not? Are
_you_
>>willing to adopt all the unwanted babies?
>>
>
> Look, an embryo exists. It doesn’t ask ‘Can I exist?’ or ‘Should I
exist?’
> It says alot about our culture when you say women who don’t ‘want
them’.
> I understand this is the case, but you have a hard making a case that
> this is the ‘triumph’ of humanity.

I don’t regard a woman as less human or less feminine if she doesn’t
want children.

> You might want to ask your parents if you came at an ‘opportune’
time.
> I know I didn’t. And in hindsight to them my mother’s pregnancy was
part
> of the experience of ‘life’.
>
>>>> People just don’t GET more callous and irrational than THAT.
>>>
>>> Sure they do. They terminate a potential life on the matter of
>>convenience.
>>
>> What if the government forced _you_ to give up _your_ career to
>>satisfy some agenda you didn’t agree with, say, “animal rights”?
>>Or what if they forced you to be nothing but a sperm donor for nine
months
>>or the rest of your life, because your “natural role” is to
reproduce?
>>”Inconvenient”, huh?
>>
>
> If there is mutual agreement to sex and a woman doesn’t want to get
> pregnant, there are ways to avoid it.

I note that the noisiest pro-lifers are not too noisy about promoting
effective contraception. Quite the opposite.

One thing that really strikes me is
> that I know a lot of couples who want to get pregnant, and it is a
big
> deal. And they can’t seem to. On the other hand you have people who
can
> pregnant without trying or caring and it means little to them. Quite
a
> dichotomy.

>keith

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