On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, [email protected] Doc
Tavish II wrote:
>Well I’ll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>Communists and who they were!
>Look:
>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>Trotsky’s political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief stay at
>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>At the party’s Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>Results and Prospects.
>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>his ideas and engaging in imigri squabbling. The March Revolution of
>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>Committee.
>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>revolution……
>Above found at:
>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm (page does not exist)
>Let’s review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews (ZHIDS)?
>From Lucy Dawidowicz’s book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>Bantam #13084-6 says on page 377: “Exploiting the superstitious
>anti-Semitic prejudices of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>harnessed the violent energies of these willing collaborates to round
>up and kill Jews.”
>I now ask: “How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>Soviets, if the Soviets weren’t in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>was a Jew conceived and run totalitarian state!
><Re-read the above about Trotsky, Soviets and what Dawidowicz’s book
>said!>
>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>Try also:
>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/ (page does not exist)
>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>Try:
>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/ (page does not exist)
>which states:
>”Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924.”
>Let’s see ol’ Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>Architect of the Red Army too!
>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>”Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>common enemies” (Univ. Jew Encyc., Vol. I, p. 336).
>Consider this:
>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>Russian Bolshevik party.
>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>on “Communism” by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>824-827).
>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>Here is the link:
>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html (page does not exist)
>You will run across this:
>Welcome to the Library of Congress’s Soviet Archives exhibit.
>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress’
>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>Once there try all “exhibits” but if you really want an eye-opener try
>this exhibit:
>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>You will see as an opener the following:
>”The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>military through media propaganda — as well as through personal
>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>support for the Soviet war effort.
>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC’s
>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il’ia Ehrenburg,
>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military…..”
>Footnote:
>The BUND:
>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>on “Communism” by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>III, pp 824-827).
>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>”On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>descended from rabbinical families” (Univ. Jew.
>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>consequently, the ” reaction to those excesses was
>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . .”(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>Jewish “Bund.”
>Maybe the JOG censored it.
> Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
> I will find all credible sites
> that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
> Till the next installment!
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On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:24:52 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On 21 Apr 1998 14:33:08 GMT, “jjjjjjjjjj” <jghb@’hfvh.com> wrote:
>>It is a well known fact that at the beginning there were many jewish groups
>>that supported the rise of the Nazis in Germany.
>In fact, many JEWS became senior officers in the German Military!!!
>>This was because the
>>Rabbinical authorities were afraid of Jews who were marrying with Germans
>>and thus diluting the ‘purity’ of the Jewish race. This is a fact that has
>>hardly been touched upon by most Jewish sympathisers and contemporary
>>historians,with the exception of a handful of Jewish intellectuals like
>>Noam Chomsky and Israel Shahak.
>>The sad fact is that Zionism shares much more in common with Nazism than
>>most people think:
>>Both Zionists and Nazis believe in the theory of racial/communal supremacy
>>Both are believers in racial/communal exclusivism
>>Both are exclusive ideologies that are intolerant of Others
>>Both are prepared to use violence to achieve their goals and both are
>>prepared to justify that use of violence
>>Both ideologies ultimately cater to the needs of their own specific and
>>exclusive constituencies- thus what happens to others is of little interest
>>to them.
>From [email protected] Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0 (page does not exist)
On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, [email protected] (BillBrtn) wrote:
>> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html (page does not exist)
This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
make a living–and live–despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
he was a specialist in aerial photography–
>>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz’s
book The War Against The Jews.
Lucy S. Dawidowicz’s book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
* April 7, 1933 Hitler’s letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
the “Jewish Problem.” “Officials who were already employed as civil
servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
sons were killed in action in the World War.” (pg 77)
* [“Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
deportations.”]
____________________________
Or how about this?
Hitler’s Jewish Army
“Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim.” –Elie Wiesel
speaking of World War Two.
“If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing
what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s
knowledge and approval.
Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including two field
marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to 100,000 troops.”
[ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
awarded Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.
One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish identity circulated
widely in Germany in the 1930s.
In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew and who is an
Aryan.”
Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
whose father was a Jew.
Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
Sources:
William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html (page does not exist)
Article ” Hitler’s Jewish Army” from:
http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html (page does not exist)
http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html (page does not exist)
Copyright ) 1997 The Seattle Times Company
Thursday, April 3, 1997
Hitler let `Aryanized’ Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
by Reuters
BONN – Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
yesterday…… [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
See also:
http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html (page does not exist)
Copyright ) 1996 The Seattle Times Company
Dec. 26, 1996
An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
served in Nazi army
by William D. Montalbano
Los Angeles Times
LONDON – Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man’s land
of Holocaust history.
Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
II – during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.
“Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
called `full Jews’ served in the military with Adolf Hitler’s
knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
exterminated their families,” Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
whole story.]
http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
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On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:24:40 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998
>>>Katyn
>>>by Dr. William Pierce
>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant
>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a
>>>living because of their losses during the so-called “Holocaust.”
>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it.
>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more
>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them
>>>$7 billion, which “Holocaust” victims allegedly had stashed in
>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers
>>>during the Second World War.
>>>With a few “bought” Gentile politicians fronting for them, the
>>>foremost among these being New York’s Senator Alphonse D’Amato,
>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S.
>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in
>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for
>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the
>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried
>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the
>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.
>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
>>>Switzerland’s elected officials, however, and resentment against
>>>the Jews’ extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the
>>>point that some of that country’s richest Jews are wearing
>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.
>>>In general, however, this “Holocaust”-based extortion racket
>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their
>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of
>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that
>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn’t do enough to
>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews’ brazenness
>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.
>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large
>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting
>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able
>>>to distort the general public’s whole perception of what happened
>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray
>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as
>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on
>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example,
>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army
>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to
>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans
>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
>>>of Poland.
>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they
>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war?
>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg
>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably
>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the
>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why
>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It’s something the
>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered
>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
>>>in 1940.
>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and
>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the
>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which
>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The
>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets
>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly
>>>along the River Bug.
>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared
>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany’s
>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union,
>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in
>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass
>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the
>>>German grab for Polish territory — much of which, of course,
>>>actually was historically German territory — and nothing was
>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.
>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jew
>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as
>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in
>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing
>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of
>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and
>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933
>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where
>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the
>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to
>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of
>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the
>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany
>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.
>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France.
>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could
>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however,
>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did
>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to
>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his
>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the
>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined
>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though
>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.
>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other
>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin
>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in
>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed
>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through
>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into
>>>Russia.
>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near
>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from
>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners
>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly
>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local
>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as
>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is
>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had
>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917,
>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been
>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American
>>>FBI.
>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and
>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each
>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the
>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than
>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other
>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans
>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in
>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various
>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in
>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest.
>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to
>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to
>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from
>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The
>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to
>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most
>>>of them did.
>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish
>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and
>>>business leaders and intellectuals — scientists, writers, poets
>>>– who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet
>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had
>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 — including nearly
>>>half of the entire Polish officer’s corps, the half that had had
>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time — and put
>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk,
>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one
>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.
>>>Rounding up a country’s leaders and killing them was standard
>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were
>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As
>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers
>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human
>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the
>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better
>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that
>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful
>>>losers and ne’er-do-wells who made up the natural communist
>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them
>>>easier to govern. That’s what the Marxists had done in Russia,
>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.
>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had
>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because
>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the
>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the
>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at
>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the
>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish
>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish
>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and
>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be
>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill
>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken
>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off
>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been
>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn
>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were
>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the
>>>killings.
>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison
>>>trucks known as “black ravens.” They were pulled from the trucks
>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands
>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit.
>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol
>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had
>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what
>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were
>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed,
>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered
>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of
>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and
>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers
>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was
>>>seen alive after April 1940.
>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the
>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest
>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed;
>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not
>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies
>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the
>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal
>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same
>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from
>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940,
>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported
>>>back to their governments.
>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American
>>>governments horrified to discover that their “gallant Soviet
>>>ally,” as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was
>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to
>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide
>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union
>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?
>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who
>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the
>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had
>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by
>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York
>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles!
>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and
>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other
>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of
>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the
>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and
>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.
>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in
>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not
>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free
>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill
>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn’t
>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish
>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have
>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been
>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have
>>>decided.
>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the JEW media for some years
>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with
>>>the “Holocaust” story which was making so much money for the
>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is
>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into
>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the
>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies
>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is
>>>J.K. Zawodny’s Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre
>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of
>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It
>>>still might undermine the Jews’ “Holocaust” racket.
>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western
>>>world didn’t know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The
>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from
>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the
>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to
>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis,
>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation.
>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx,
>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars
>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who
>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with
>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and
>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland,
>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
>>>feeling.
>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews isn’t surprising. What is
>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have
>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they
>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have
>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them.
>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart,
>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media
>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media.
>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and
>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.
>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews
>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold
>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the
>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.
>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To
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>>>Write “subscribe” as the subject of your message.
>>>++++++++++++++
>>>American Renaissance
>>>http://www.amren.com
>>>Campaign for Radical Truth in History
>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>Euro-American Students Union
>>>http://esu.simplenet.com (page does not exist)
>>>Katja Lane’s Fourteen Word Press
>>>http://www.14words.com
>>>National Alliance
>>>http://www.natvan.com
>>>Stormfront
>>>http://www.stormfront.org
>>>Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library
>>>http://www.ddc.net/ygg (page does not exist)
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On Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:25:53 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>From [email protected] Sat Sep 13 17:14:03 1997
>>Subject: [Fwd: 66 Questions and Answers on the Holocaust]
>>Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 18:14:03 -0500
>>Laura is my kind of gal… she has many a valid point in the following
>>post. In fact, 66 valid points. Don’t know why she
>>didn’t post this to alt.revisionism, so I will do the honors..
>>Sixty-six Questions and Answers on the Holocaust
>>————————————————
>>1. What proof exists that the Nazis killed six million Jews?
>>None. All we have is postwar testimony, mostly of individual
>>”survivors.” This testimony is contradictory, and very few claim to have
>>actually witnessed any “gassing.” There are no contemporaneous documents
>>or hard evidence: no mounds of ashes, no crematories capable of
>>disposing of millions of corpses, no “human soap,” no lamp shades made
>>of human skin, and no credible demographic statistics.
>>2. What evidence exists that six million Jews were not killed by the
>>Nazis?
>>Extensive forensic, demographic, analytical and comparative evidence
>>demonstrates the impossibility of such a figure. The widely repeated
>>”six million” figure is an irresponsible exaggeration.
>>3. Did Simon Wiesenthal state in writing that “there were no
>>extermination camps on German soil”?
>>Yes. The famous “Nazi hunter” wrote this in Stars and Stripes, Jan. 24,
>>1993. He also claimed that “gassings” of Jews took place only in Poland.
>>4. If Dachau was in Germany, and even Wiesenthal says that it was not an
>>extermination camp, why do many American veterans say it was an
>>extermination camp?
>>After the Allies captured Dachau, many GIs and others were led through
>>the camp and shown a building alleged to have been a “gas chamber.” The
>>mass media widely, but falsely, continues to assert that Dachau was a
>>”gassing” camp.
>>5. What about Auschwitz? Is there any proof that gas chambers were used
>>to kill people there?
>>No. Auschwitz, captured by the Soviets, was modified AFTER the war, and
>>a room was reconstructed to look like a large “gas chamber.” After
>>America’s leading expert on gas chamber construction and design, Fred
>>Leuchter, examined this and other alleged Auschwitz gassing facilities,
>>he stated that it was an “absurdity” to claim that they were, or could
>>have been, used for executions.
>>6. If Auschwitz wasn’t a “death camp,” what was its true purpose?
>>It was an internment center and part of a large-scale manufacturing
>>complex. Synthetic fuel was produced there, and its inmates were used as
>>a workforce.
>>7. Who set up the first concentration camps?
>>During the Boer War (1899-1902), the British set up what they called
>>”concentration camps” in South Africa to hold Afrikaner women and
>>children. Approximately 30,000 died in these hell-holes, which were as
>>terrible as German concentration camps of World War II.
>>8. How did German concentration camps differ from American “relocation”
>>camps in which Japanese-Americans were interned during WWII?
>>The only significant difference was that the Germans interned persons on
>>the basis of being real or suspected security threats to the German war
>>effort, whereas the Roosevelt administration interned persons on the
>>basis of race alone.
>>9. Why did the German government intern Jews in camps?
>>It considered Jews a direct threat to national security. (Jews were
>>overwhelmingly represented in Communist subversion.) However, all
>>suspected security risks — not just Jews — were in danger of
>>internment.
>>10. What hostile measure did world Jewry undertake against Germany as
>>early as 1933?
>>In March 1933, international Jew organizations declared an
>>international boycott of German goods.
>>11. Did the Jews of the world “declare war on Germany”?
>>Yes. Newspapers around the world reported this. A front-page headline in
>>the London Daily Express (March 24, 1933), for example, announced “Judea
>>Declares War on Germany.”
>>12. Was this before or after the “death camp” stories began?
>>This was years before the “death camp” stories, which began in
>>1941-1942.
>>13. What nation is credited with being the first to practice mass
>>civilian bombing?
>>Britain — on May 11, 1940.
>>14. How many “gas chambers” to kill people were there at Auschwitz?
>>None.
>>15. How many Jews were living in the areas that came under German
>>control during the war?
>>Fewer than six million.
>>16. If the Jews of Europe were not exterminated by the Nazis, what
>>happened to them?
>>After the war millions of Jews were still alive in Europe. Hundreds of
>>thousands (perhaps as many as one and a half million) had died of all
>>causes during the war. Others had emigrated to Palestine, the United
>>States, and other countries. Still more Jews left Europe after the war.
>>17. How many Jews fled or were evacuated to deep within the Soviet
>>Union?
>>More than two million fled or were evacuated by the Soviets in
>>1941-1942. These Jews thus never came under German control.
>>18. How many Jews emigrated from Europe prior to the war, thus putting
>>them outside of German reach?
>>Perhaps a million (not including those absorbed by the USSR).
>>19. If Auschwitz was not an extermination camp, why did the commandant,
>>Rudolf Hoess, confess that it was?
>>He was tortured by British military police, as one of his interrogators
>>later admitted.
>>20. Is there any evidence of American, British and Soviet policy to
>>torture German prisoners in order to exact “confessions” for use at the
>>trials at Nuremberg and elsewhere?
>>Yes. Torture was extensively used to produce fraudulent “evidence” for
>>the infamous Nuremberg trials, and in other postwar “war crimes” trials.
>>21. How does the Holocaust story benefit Jews today?
>>It helps protect Jews as a group from criticism. As a kind of secular
>>religion, it provides an emotional bond between Jews and their leaders.
>>It is a powerful tool in Jewish money-raising campaigns, and is used to
>>justify US aid to Israel.
>>22. How does it benefit the State of Israel?
>>It justifies the billions of dollars in “reparations” Germany has paid
>>to Israel and many individual “survivors.” It is used by the
>>Zionist/Israeli lobby to dictate a pro-Israel American foreign policy in
>>the Middle East, and to force American taxpayer aid to Israel, totaling
>>billions of dollars per year.
>>23. How is it used by many Christian clergymen?
>>The Holocaust story is cited to justify the Old Testament notion of Jews
>>as a holy and eternally persecuted “Chosen People.”
>>24. How did it benefit the Communists?
>>It diverted attention from Soviet war mongering and atrocities before,
>>during and after the Second World War.
>>25. How does it benefit Britain?
>>In much the same way it benefitted the Soviet Union.
>>26. Is there any evidence that Hitler ordered mass extermination of
>>Jews?
>>No.
>>27. What kind of gas was used in German wartime concentration camps?
>>Hydrocyanic gas from “Zyklon B,” a commercial pesticide that was widely
>>used throughout Europe.
>>28. For what purpose was “Zyklon B” manufactured?
>>It was a pesticide used to fumigate clothing and quarters to kill
>>typhus-bearing lice and other pests.
N.B. It was sold by a N.Y. JEW firm to Nazi Germany, during the war!!!
>>29. Was this product suitable for mass extermination?
>>No. If the Nazis had intended to use poison gas to exterminate people,
>>far more efficient products were available. Zyklon is a slow-acting
>>fumigation agent.
>>30. How long does it take to ventilate an area after fumigation with
>>Zyklon B?
>>Normally about 20 hours. The whole procedure is very complicated and
>>dangerous. Gas masks must be used, and only trained technicians are
>>employed.
>>31. Auschwitz commandant Hoess said that his men would enter the “gas
>>chambers” to remove bodies ten minutes after the victims had died. How
>>do you explain this?
>>It can’t be explained because had they done so they would have suffered
>>the same fate as the “gassing” victims.
>>32. Hoess said in his “confession” that his men would smoke cigarettes
>>as they pulled bodies out of gas chambers, ten minutes after gassing.
>>Isn’t Zyklon B explosive?
>>Yes. The Hoess confession is obviously false.
>>33. What was the exact procedure the Nazis allegedly used to exterminate
>>Jews?
>>The stories range from dropping gas canisters into a crowded room from a
>>hole in the ceiling, to piping gas through shower heads, to “steam
>>chambers,” to “electrocution” machinery. Millions are alleged to have
>>been killed in these ways.
>>34. How could a mass extermination program have been kept secret from
>>those who were scheduled to be killed?
>>It couldn’t have been kept secret. The fact is that there were no mass
>>gassings. The extermination stories originated as wartime atrocity
>>propaganda.
>>35. If Jews scheduled for execution knew the fate in store for them, why
>>did they go along with the Germans without resisting?
>>They didn’t fight back because they did not believe there was any
>>intention to kill them.
>>36. About how many Jews died in the concentration camps?
>>Competent estimates range from about 300,000 to 500,000.
>>37. How did they die?
>>Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn Europe
>>during the war, as well as from starvation and lack of medical attention
>>during the final months of the conflict, when virtually all road and
>>rail transportation had been bombed out by the Allies.
>>38. What is typhus?
>>This disease always appears when many people are jammed together under
>>unsanitary conditions. It is carried by lice that infest hair and
>>clothes. Ironically, if the Germans had used more Zyklon B, more Jews
>>might have survived the camps.
>>39. What is the difference if six million or 300,000 Jews died during
>>the Second World War?
>>5,700,000.
>>40. Some Jewish “death camp” survivors say they saw bodies being dumped
>>into pits and burned. How much fuel would have been required for this?
>>A great deal more than the Germans had access to, as there was a
>>substantial fuel shortage during the war.
>>41. Can bodies be burned in pits?
>>No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by flames
>>in this manner because of lack of oxygen.
>>42. Holocaust historians claim that the Nazis were able to cremate
>>bodies in about ten minutes. How long does it take to incinerate one
>>body, according to professional crematory operators?
>>About an hour and a half, although the larger bones require further
>>processing afterwards.
>>43. Why did the German concentration camps have crematory ovens?
>>To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses of those who had
>>died.
>>44. Given a 100 percent duty cycle of all the crematories in all the
>>camps in German-controlled territory, what is the maximum number of
>>corpses it would have been possible to incinerate during the entire
>>period such crematories were in operation?
>>About 430,600.
>>45. Can a crematory oven be operated 100 percent of the time?
>>No. Fifty percent of the time is a generous estimate (12 hours per day).
>>Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly when in
>>heavy operation.
>>46. How much ash is left from a cremated corpse?
>>After the bone is all ground down, about a shoe box full.
>>47. If six million people had been incinerated by the Nazis, what
>>happened to the ashes?
>>That remains to be “explained.” Six million bodies would have produced
>>many tons of ashes, yet there is no evidence of any large ash
>>depositories.
>>48. Do Allied wartime aerial reconnaissance photos of Auschwitz (taken
>>during the period when the “gas chambers” and crematoria were supposedly
>>in full operation) show evidence of extermination?
>>No. In fact, these photographs do not even reveal a trace of the
>>enormous amount of smoke that supposedly was constantly over the camp,
>>nor do they show evidence of the “open pits” in which bodies were
>>allegedly burned.
>>49. What was the main provision of the German “Nuremberg Laws” of 1935?
>>They forbid marriage and sexual relations between Germans and Jews,
>>similar to laws existing in Israel today.
>>50. Were there any American precedents for the Nuremberg Laws?
>>Years before Hitler’s Third Reich, most states in the USA had enacted
>>laws prohibiting marriage between persons of different races.
>>51. What did the International Red Cross have to report with regard to
>>the “Holocaust” question?
>>An official report on the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>>September 1944 pointed out that internees were permitted to receive
>>packages, and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified.
>>52. What was the role of the Vatican during the time six million Jews
>>were allegedly being exterminated?
>>If there had been an extermination plan, the Vatican would most
>>certainly have been in a position to know about it. But because there
>>was none, the Vatican had no reason to speak out against it, and didn’t.
>>53. What evidence is there that Hitler knew of an on-going Jewish
>>extermination program?
>>None.
>>54. Did the Nazis and the Zionists collaborate?
>>As early as 1933, Hitler’s government signed an agreement with the
>>Zionists permitting Jews to emigrate from Germany to Palestine, taking
>>large amounts of capital with them.
Also, there is the notorious KASTNER case, where the Hungarian Zionist Kastner, arranged for others to die, while he worked with Eichmann
>>55. How did Anne Frank die?
>>After surviving internment in Auschwitz, she succumbed to typhus in the
>>Bergen-Belsen camp, just a few weeks before the end of the war. The was
>>not gassed.
>>56. Is the Anne Frank Diary genuine?
>>No. Evidence compiled by Dr. Robert Faurisson of France establishes that
>>the famous diary is a literary hoax.
>>57. What about the familiar photographs and film footage taken in the
>>liberated German camps showing piles of emaciated corpses? Are these
>>faked?
>>Photographs can be faked, but it’s far easier merely to add a misleading
>>caption to a photo or commentary to a piece of footage. Piles of
>>emaciated corpses do not mean that these people were “gassed” or
>>deliberately starved to death. Actually, these were tragic victims of
>>raging epidemics or of starvation due to a lack of food in the camps
>>toward the end of the war.
>>58. Who originated the term “genocide”?
>>Raphael Lemkin, a Polish Jew, in a book published in 1944.
>>59. Are films such as “Schindler’s List” or “The Winds of War”
>>documentaries?
>>No. Such films are fictional dramatizations loosely based on history.
>>Unfortunately, all too many people accept them as accurate historical
>>representations.
>>60. How many books have been published that refute some aspect of the
>>standard “Holocaust” story?
>>Dozens. More are in production.
>>61. What happened when the Institute for Historical Review offered
>>$50,000 to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz?
>>No proof was submitted as a claim on the reward, but the Institute was
>>sued for $17 million by former Auschwitz inmate Mel Mermelstein, who
>>claimed that the reward offer caused him to lose sleep and his business
>>to suffer, and represented “injurious denial of established fact.”
>>62. What about the charge that those who question the Holocaust story
>>are merely anti-Semitic or neo-Nazi?
>>This is a smear designed to draw attention away from facts and honest
>>arguments. Scholars who refute Holocaust story claims are of all
>>persuasions and ethnic-religious backgrounds (including Jewish). There
>>is no correlation between “Holocaust” refutation and anti-Semitism or
>>”neo-Naziism”.
>>63. What has happened to “revisionist” historians who have challenged
>>the Holocaust story?
>>They have been subjected to smear campaigns, loss of academic positions,
>>loss of pensions, destruction of their property and physical violence.
>>64. Has the Institute for Historical Review suffered any retaliation for
>>its efforts to uphold the right of freedom of speech and academic
>>freedom?
>>The IHR had been bombed three times, and was completely destroyed on
>>July 4, 1984, in a criminal arson attack. Numerous death threats by
>>telephone have been received. Media coverage of the IHR has been
>>overwhelmingly hostile.
>>65. Why is there so little publicity for the revisionist view?
>>Because for political reasons the Establishment does not want any
>>in-depth discussion about the facts surrounding the Holocaust story.
>>66. Where can I get more information about the “other side” of the
>>Holocaust story, as well as facts concerning other aspects of World War
>>II historical revisionism?
>>The Institute for Historical Review, P.O. Box 2739, Newport Beach, CA
>>92659, carries a wide variety of books, cassette and video tapes on
>>significant historical subjects.
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On Fri, 25 Dec 1998 16:00:50 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:31:10 -0600, “Bassam Kouatli”
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>Zionism and the Holocaust
>>>>Haim Bresheeth, in RETURN, March 1989
>>>>The first point to note regarding the appropriation of the history of the
>>>>Holocaust by Zionist propaganda is that Zionism without anti-Semitism is
>>>>impossible. Zionism agrees with the basic tenet of anti-Semitism, namely
>>>>that Jews cannot live with non-Jews.
>>>>The history and roots of the Holocaust go back a long way. While the
>>>>industry of death and destruction did not operate before 1942, its roots
>>>>were firmly placed in the 19th Century. Jewish aspirations for emancipation
>>>>emerged out of the national struggles in Europe. When the hopes for
>>>>liberation through bourgeois-democratic change were dashed, other
>>>>alternatives for improving the lot of the Jews of Europe achieved
>>>>prominence.
>>>>The socialist Bund, a mass movement with enormous following, had to contend
>>>>with opposition from a new and small, almost insignificant opponent, the
>>>>political Zionists. In outline these two offered diametrically opposed
>>>>options for Jews in Europe. While the Bund was suggesting joining forces
>>>>with the rest of Europe’s workers, the Zionists were proposing a new
>>>>programme aimed at ridding Europe of its Jews by setting up some form of a
>>>>Jewish state.
>>>>Historically, nothing is inevitable, all depends on the balance of forces
>>>>involved in the struggle. History can be seen as an option tree: every time
>>>>a certain option is chosen, other routes become barred. Because of that
>>>>choice, movement backwards to the point before that choice was mad is
>>>>impossible. While Zionism as an option was taken by many young Jews, it
>>>>remained a minority position until the first days of the 3rd Reich. The
>>>>Zionist Federation of Germany (ZVfD), an organisation representing a tiny
>>>>minority of German Jews, was selected by the Nazis as the body to represent
>>>>the Jews of the Reich. Its was the only flag of an international
>>>>organisation allowed to fly in Berlin, and this was the only international
>>>>organisation allowed to operate during this period. From a marginal
>>>>position, the leaders of the Zionist Federation were propelled to a
>>>>prominence and centrality that surprised even them. All of a sudden they
>>>>attained political power, power based not on representation, but from being
>>>>selected as the choice of the Nazi regime for dealing with the ‘Jewish
>>>>problem’. Their position in negotiating with the Nazis agreements that
>>>>affected the lives of many tens of thousands of the Jews in Germany
>>>>transformed them from a utopian, marginal organisation in Germany (and some
>>>>other countries in Europe) into a real option to be considered by German
>>>>Jews.
>>>>The best example of this was the ‘Transfer Agreement’ of 1934. Immediately
>>>>after the Nazi takeover in 1933, Jews all over the world supported or were
>>>>organising a world wide boycott of German goods. This campaign hurt the Nazi
>>>>regime and the German authorities searched frantically for a way disabling
>>>>the boycott. It was clear that if Jews and Jewish organisations were to pull
>>>>out, the campaign would collapse.
>>>>This problem was solved by the ZVfD. A letter sent to the Nazi party as
>>>>early as 21.6.33, outlined the degree of agreement that existed between the
>>>>two organisations on the questions of race, nation, and the nature of the
>>>>’Jewish problem’, and it offered to collaborate with the new regime:
>>>>The realisation of Zionism could only be hurt by resentment of Jews abroad
>>>>against the German development. Boycott propaganda – such as is currently
>>>>being carried on against Germany in many ways – is in essence unZionist,
>>>>because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and build…
>>>>In their eagerness to gain credence and the backing of the new regime, the
>>>>Zionist organisation managed to undermine the boycott. The main public act
>>>>was the signature of the ‘Transfer Agreement’ with the Nazi authorities
>>>>during the Zionist Congress of 1934. In essence, the agreement was designed
>>>>to get Germany’s Jews out of the country and into Mandate Palestine. It
>>>>provided a possibility for Jews to take a sizeable part of their property
>>>>out of the country, through a transfer of German goods to Palestine. This
>>>>right was denied to Jews leaving for any other destination (emphasis – ED).
>>>>The Zionist Organisation was the acting agent, through its financial
>>>>organisations. This agreement operated on a number of fronts ‘helping’ Jews
>>>>to leave the country, breaking the ring of the boycott, exporting German
>>>>goods in large quantities to Palestine, and last but not least, enabling the
>>>>regime to be seen as humane and reasonable even towards its avowed enemies,
>>>>the Jews. After all, they argued, the Jews do not belong in Europe and now
>>>>the Jews come and agree with them.
>>>>After news of the agreement broke, the boycott was doomed. If the Zionist
>>>>Organisation found it possible and necessary to deal with the Nazis, and
>>>>import their goods, who could argue for a boycott? This was not the first
>>>>time that the interests of both movements were presented to the German
>>>>public as complementary. Baron Von Mildenstein, the first head of the Jewish
>>>>Department of the SS, later followed by Eichmann, was invited to travel to
>>>>Palestine. This he did in early 1933, in the company of a Zionist leader,
>>>>Kurt Tuchler. Having spent six months in Palestine, he wrote a series of
>>>>favourable articles in Der Sturmer describing the ‘new Jew’ of Zionism, a
>>>>Jew Nazis could accept and understand.
>>>>This little-known episode established quite clearly the relationship during
>>>>the early days of Nazism, between the new regime and the ZVfD, a
>>>>relationship that was echoed later in a number of key instances, even after
>>>>the nature of the Final Solution became clear. In many cases this meant a
>>>>silencing of reports about the horrors of the exterminations. A book
>>>>concentrating on this aspect of the Zionist reaction to the Holocaust is
>>>>Post-Ugandan Zionism in the Crucible of the Holocaust, by S.B. Beth-Zvi.
>>>>In the case of the Kastner episode, around which Jim Allen’s play PERDITION
>>>>is based, even the normal excuse of lack of knowledge of the real nature of
>>>>events does not exist. It occurred near the end of the war. The USSR had
>>>>advanced almost up to Germany. Italy and the African bases had been lost.
>>>>The Nazis were on the run, with a number of key countries, such as Rumania,
>>>>leaving the Axis. A second front was a matter of months away, as the western
>>>>Allies prepared their forces. In the midst of all this we find Eichmann, the
>>>>master bureaucrat of industrial murder, setting up is HQ in occupied
>>>>Budapest, after the German takeover of the country in April 1944. His first
>>>>act was to have a conference with the Jewish leadership, and to appoint
>>>>Zionist Federation members, headed by Kastner, as the agent and clearing
>>>>house for all Jews in their relationship with the SS and Nazi authorities.
>>>>Why they did this is not difficult to see. As opposed to Poland, where its
>>>>three and half million Jews lived in ghettoes and were visible different
>>>>from the rest of the Polish population, the Hungarian Jews were in
>>>>integrated part of the community. The middle class was mainly Jewish, the
>>>>Jews were mainly middle class. They enjoyed freedom of travel, served in the
>>>>Hungarian (fascist) army in frontline units, as officers and soldiers, their
>>>>names were Hungarian – how was Eichmann to find them if they were to be
>>>>exterminated ? The task was not easy, there were a million Jews in Hungary,
>>>>most of them resident, the rest being refugees from other countries. Many
>>>>had heard about the fate of Jews elsewhere, and were unlikely to believe any
>>>>statements by Nazi officials.
>>>>Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the
>>>>frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
>>>>comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS,
>>>>with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police,
>>>>could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not
>>>>even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under no
>>>>illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner’s
>>>>committee, that he intended to send all Hungary’s Jews to Auschwitz, before
>>>>he even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews
>>>>will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met.
>>>>The Committee faced a simple choice – to tell the Jews of Hungary about
>>>>their fate, (with neutral Rumania, where many could escape, being in most
>>>>cases a few hours away) or to collaborate with the Nazis by assisting in the
>>>>concentration process. What would not have been believed when coming from
>>>>the SS, sounded quite plausible when coming from the mouths of the Zionist
>>>>leadership. Thus it is, that most of the Hungarian Jews went quietly to
>>>>their death, assured by their leadership that they were sent to work camps.
>>>>To be sure, there are thirty pieces of silver in this narrative of
>>>>destruction: the trains of ‘prominents’ which Eichmann promised to Kastner –
>>>>a promise he kept to the last detail. For Eichmann it was a bargain:
>>>>allowing 1,680 Jews to survive, as the price paid for the silent
>>>>collaboration over the death of almost a million Jews.
>>>>There was no way in which the Jews of Hungary could even be located, not to
>>>>say murdered, without the full collaboration of Kastner and his few friends.
>>>>No doubt the SS would hunt a few Jews here and there, but the scale of the
>>>>operation would have been minuscule compared to the half million who died in
>>>>Auschwitz.
>>>>It is important to realise that Kastner was not an aberration, like say
>>>>Rumkovky in Lodz. Kastner acted as a result of his strongly held Zionist
>>>>convictions. His actions were a logical outcome of earlier positions. This
>>>>is instanced when he exposed to the Gestapo the existence of a British cell
>>>>of saboteurs, Palgi and Senesh, and persuaded them to give themselves up, so
>>>>as not to disrupt his operations. At no point during his trial or elsewhere,
>>>>did Kastner deny that he knew exactly what was to happen to those Jews.
>>>>To conclude, the role played by Zionists in this period, was connected to
>>>>another role they could, and should have played, that of alarming the whole
>>>>world to what was happening in Europe. They had the information, but
>>>>politically it was contrary to their priorities. The priorities were, and
>>>>still are, quite simple: All that furthers the Zionist enterprise in
>>>>Palestine is followed, whatever the price. The lives of individuals, Jews
>>>>and non-Jews, are secondary. If this process requires dealing with fascists,
>>>>Nazis and other assorted dictatorial regimes across the world, so be it.
>>>>You’ll find more at: http://www.alquds.org/palestine/
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On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:42:49 GMT,[email protected]
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>You will probably be branded a racist by the Jew Sol Littman and his
>band of terrorists!!!
>They do not want non-Jews like you to read their books, which detail
>THEIR RACIST POLICIES!!!
>On 22 Mar 1998 17:57:57 GMT, [email protected] () wrote:
>>vark! ([email protected]) wrote:
>>: [email protected] wrote:
>>: > But who decides. The flat earth people say it is hatred against their
>>: > beliefs for schools to teach that the world is round.
>>: *We* are to say, the collective voice of our nation. You know,
>>: ‘Democracy’. But congratulations for utterly trivializing a serious
>>: debate.
>>Ok, read the following from the Jew Talmud and ask yourself if it is
>>racism and promotes hatred.
>>Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 14:56:42 -0800
>>From: Cool Canadian <[email protected]>
>>Newsgroups: soc.culture.palestine
>>Subject: Jewish Racism towards Non-Jews as expressed in the Talmud
>>”The modern Jew is the product of the Talmud…”
>>”Babylonian Talmud”, published by the Boston Talmud Society,p. XII
>>The Jews refer to the remainder of Earths inhabitants, the non-Jewish
>>peoples, as “Gentiles”, “Goyim”. Let’s see what the Jewish Talmud teaches
>>the Jews concerning the non-Jewish majority,
>>i.e. those who are not part of Jahve’s “Chosen People”:
>>”The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They
>>are beasts.”
>>Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b
>>”The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor
>>the the dog more than the non-Jew.”
>>Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30
>>”Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human
>>form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therfore he will
>>be served by animals in human form.”
>>Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855
>>”A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal.”
>>Coschen hamischpat 405
>>”The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs.”
>>Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b
>>”Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they
>>compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human.”
>>Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b
>>”If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog.”
>>Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b
>>”If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not
>>express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: “God will replace ‘your loss’, >>just as if one of his oxen or asses had died”.”
>>Jore dea 377, 1
>>”Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between
>>animals.”
>>Talmud Sanhedrin 74b
>>”It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile.”
>>Sepher ikkarim III c 25
>>”It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians
>>belong to the denying ones of the Torah.”
>>Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5
>>”A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands.”
>>Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b
>>”Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the
>>same as making a sacrifice to God.”
>>Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772
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On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:42:49 GMT,[email protected]
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>You will probably be branded a racist by the Jew Sol Littman and his
>band of terrorists!!!
>They do not want non-Jews like you to read their books, which detail
>THEIR RACIST POLICIES!!!
>On 22 Mar 1998 17:57:57 GMT, [email protected] () wrote:
>>vark! ([email protected]) wrote:
>>: [email protected] wrote:
>>: > But who decides. The flat earth people say it is hatred against their
>>: > beliefs for schools to teach that the world is round.
>>: *We* are to say, the collective voice of our nation. You know,
>>: ‘Democracy’. But congratulations for utterly trivializing a serious
>>: debate.
>>Ok, read the following from the Jew Talmud and ask yourself if it is
>>racism and promotes hatred.
>>Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 14:56:42 -0800
>>From: Cool Canadian <[email protected]>
>>Newsgroups: soc.culture.palestine
>>Subject: Jewish Racism towards Non-Jews as expressed in the Talmud
>>”The modern Jew is the product of the Talmud…”
>>”Babylonian Talmud”, published by the Boston Talmud Society,p. XII
>>The Jews refer to the remainder of Earths inhabitants, the non-Jewish
>>peoples, as “Gentiles”, “Goyim”. Let’s see what the Jewish Talmud teaches
>>the Jews concerning the non-Jewish majority,
>>i.e. those who are not part of Jahve’s “Chosen People”:
>>”The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They
>>are beasts.”
>>Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b
>>”The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor
>>the the dog more than the non-Jew.”
>>Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30
>>”Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human
>>form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therfore he will
>>be served by animals in human form.”
>>Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855
>>”A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal.”
>>Coschen hamischpat 405
>>”The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs.”
>>Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b
>>”Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they
>>compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human.”
>>Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b
>>”If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog.”
>>Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b
>>”If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not
>>express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: “God will replace ‘your loss’, >>just as if one of his oxen or asses had died”.”
>>Jore dea 377, 1
>>”Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between
>>animals.”
>>Talmud Sanhedrin 74b
>>”It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile.”
>>Sepher ikkarim III c 25
>>”It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians
>>belong to the denying ones of the Torah.”
>>Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5
>>”A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands.”
>>Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b
>>”Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the
>>same as making a sacrifice to God.”
>>Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772
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On Sun, 17 Aug 1997 11:04:59 -0500, “Shabati..Zvi Dbuishneineh”
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>[email protected]., new wrote:
>> Investigators reportedly have opened several graves of Yemenite Jewish
>> babies and found them to be empty – a discovery that might support
>> claims that Yemenite children were taken from their parents for adoption
>> decades ago.
>> For years, Yemenite activists have claimed hundreds of babies declared
>> dead were actually given to adoptive parents of European descent. If the
>> claims are true, it could further sour relations between Middle Eastern
>> and European Jews in Israel.
>> The four graves at Tel Aviv’s Givat Shaul cemetery were opened last
>> Wednesday as part of an official investigation, with a rabbi and family
>> members present.
>> Wooden signs over the empty graves bore the names Ruthie Babu, Ruthie
>> Cohen, Reuven Rafaelo and Moshe Mishraki, Israel TV reported Saturday.
>> All were hospitalized when only a few months old. Their parents never
>> saw them again, nor did they see a body or a death certificate.
>> “Now there is no doubt that this was an affair of planned fraud in
>> which funerals were staged and evidence was falsified,” said Ora
>> Shifris, a spokesman for the Yemenite families.
>> Hundreds of children disappeared during the mass immigration of Yemenite
>> Jews in the early 1950s, when the immigrants were housed in tent camps.
>> Camp officials and medical staff denied any wrongdoing, saying there was
>> chaos in the camps, where many babies were sickly and died.
>> Two other commissions have investigated the affair, but many families
>> dismissed their inconclusive findings.
>> In 1994, radical Yemenite activist Uzi Meshulam and a group of armed
>> followers barricaded themselves in a house in Tel Aviv for six weeks to
>> press demands for a new inquiry. One of the followers was killed in a
>> shootout with police, and Meshulam is serving a 6 1/2-year prison term.
>> But the confrontation created a furor that led to the current
>> commission, which has subpoena powers.
>> Israel’s 4.7 million Jews are roughly evenly divided between those of
>> Middle Eastern and European descent, but the latter have always been
>> dominant economically and socially.
>Mr. Jafar.
>1. The number of children exceeded the thousands, not hundreds.
>2. Most of the low Paige and menial jobs are given to Arab Jews.
>3. For economic reasons, most of the prostitutes in Israel are underage
>Yemenites (and now Russian) Jewish little girls.
>4. Rejecting the blood of the African Jews (the Falasha) is just on of
>the facet of the fascist Zionist life. The Falasha Jews are prohibited
>from performing marriages and funeral. Only Aryan Jews are allowed to do
>that besides some Arab Jews who had to (convert) to Judaism, the Aryan
>style.
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On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:01:08 -0600, Ed Kadach <[email protected]>
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>>Hitler’s Jewish Army
>>”Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim.” –Elie Wiesel
>>speaking of World War Two.
>>”If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing what
>>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>>’full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf
>>Hitler’s knowledge and approval.
>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including
>>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>>lieutenant generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to
>>100,000 troops.”
>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>>Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.
>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish
>>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew
>>and who is an Aryan.”
>>Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards(kapos).
>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>Sources:
>>William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:10:57 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>>>question how many may have died in WWII!!!
>>>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>>>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!
>>>
>>>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>>>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>>>involved.
>>>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, [email protected] (William
>>>Markiewicz) wrote:
>>>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at. See the
>>>>Communication Page, August 97 issue
>>>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond (page does not exist)
>>>sperati wrote:
>>>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
>>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>>> From: stefan lemieszewski <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>>> titled “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.” If someone has access I would
>>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>>> —————————————————————————
>>>> North Shore News
>>>> February 2, 1997
>>>> Insights from abroad
>>>> Doug Collins
>>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>>> served in Hiler’s forces as high ranking officers.
>>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>>> about “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.”
>>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>>> was Erhard Milch, who “masterminded German aircraft production and
>>>> transformed the Luftwaffe.” His father was Jewish.
>>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of “mixed Jewish race or
>>>> married to Jews.” They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>>> Seventeen “Jews in Nazi uniform” were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>>> Germany’s highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>>> alive.
>>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>>> father, “wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle.”
>>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>>> whether they were “victims or perpetrators.”
>>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>>> documents in the process.
>>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler’s Germany; also that no Jew
>>>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, “It makes
>>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated.”
>>>> He stated, too, that Rigg’s research would “inform both the argument
>>>> about Hitler’s role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans.”
>>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg’s research may be
>>>> used by “deniers.” But most “deniers” do not deny that large numbers of
>>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>>> was a Jew.
>>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>>> one were seen as “mixed race” and were also denied full citizenship.
>>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of “Aryan descent.” Milch, sentenced to a
>>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>>> wonder why?
>>>> —The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
The above does not even include the Zionist-nazi collaborators, such as the Hungarian KASTNER!!!
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>============
>Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
>Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
>occupation of Poland. The only reason for this question at this time
>seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered. Provacatively, Dr.
>Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
>draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
>after the war? Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres.
>Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
>hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
>grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk). He admitted
>that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem. However,
>young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
>afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
>find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
>presently in Lithuania.
>But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
>occupation was dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
>were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>They were ususally not armed, and when armed never given more than five
>bullets for their long rifles. Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>(as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
>each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>the genocide.
>On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>service was completely voluntary. It was called Ordnungdienst. Their
>emblem was a light alloy Star of David. The social background of these
>Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>post-graduate degrees, 60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>education. These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>of his book. In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>closed.
>While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>Lodz. German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>Wisenthal Museum in LA. Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>————-
>Jozef Pawlikowski
>We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
>graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki. We found
>ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
>dozens of other places. Why you shrink from searching for your
>ancestors, Dr Ilicki?
>————
>Julian Ilicki wrote:
>> W ostatnim czasie poruszalo sie tutaj nieco sprawe granatowej policji.
>> Czy ktos wie jak odbywala sie rekrutacja do tej policji? Czy byla to po
>> prostu policja przedwojenna ktora pod innym dowodztwem i w innych mundurach
>> kontynuowala swoja dzialalnosc z okresu przedwojennego? A jezeli tak, to
>> czy przedwojenni policjanci byli zmuszeni do pozostawania w szeregach
>> granatowej policji (i jakimi sankcjami sie to wymuszalo), cz mogli moze
>> policje opuscic po kampanii wrzesniowej? Czy odbywala sie rekrutacja nowych
>> policjantow podczas okupacji i w jaki sposob? Co sie z tymi ludzmi stalo po
>> wojnie? I skad sie bierze nazwa “granatowa policja” – czy od kolorow
>> mundurow?
>> Julian
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Julian Ilicki, Ph.D. e-mail: [email protected]
>> Uppsala Univ., Dept. of Sociology, Box 821, S-751 08 Uppsala, Sweden
>> voice, office: +46 – 18 4711513 voice, private: +46 – 18 204747
>> fax, Dept.: +46 – 18 4711170 cellular: +46 – 70 7533731
>> http://www.soc.uu.se/staff/julian_i.html
>> http://www.soc.uu.se/~julian/
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On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, [email protected] (BillBrtn) wrote:
>> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
make a living–and live–despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
he was a specialist in aerial photography–
>>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz’s
book The War Against The Jews.
Lucy S. Dawidowicz’s book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
* April 7, 1933 Hitler’s letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
the “Jewish Problem.” “Officials who were already employed as civil
servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
sons were killed in action in the World War.” (pg 77)
* [“Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
deportations.”]
____________________________
Or how about this?
Hitler’s Jewish Army
“Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim.” –Elie Wiesel
speaking of World War Two.
“If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing
what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s
knowledge and approval.
Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including two field
marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to 100,000 troops.”
[ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
awarded Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.
One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish identity circulated
widely in Germany in the 1930s.
In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew and who is an
Aryan.”
Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
whose father was a Jew.
Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
Sources:
William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
Article ” Hitler’s Jewish Army” from:
http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
———————————-
http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html
Copyright ) 1997 The Seattle Times Company
Thursday, April 3, 1997
Hitler let `Aryanized’ Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
by Reuters
BONN – Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
yesterday…… [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
See also:
http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
Copyright ) 1996 The Seattle Times Company
Dec. 26, 1996
An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
served in Nazi army
by William D. Montalbano
Los Angeles Times
LONDON – Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man’s land
of Holocaust history.
Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
II – during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.
“Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
called `full Jews’ served in the military with Adolf Hitler’s
knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
exterminated their families,” Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
whole story.]
http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
Article compliments of [email protected]
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On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>>reconsidered by thinking readers.
>>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>>>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>>> One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called “Russian
>>>Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>> First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>>>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>>> While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>Archives:
>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384
>>>`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>Government.”
>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>>>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>Moisei Uritsky.
>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>>>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>”Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>>>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>>>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>Gordon.
>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>were Jews.
>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>did not take kindly to it.”
>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>”anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>>>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>4, 1919)
>>>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>himself:
>>>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>virtually untouched.
>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>Communist bosses.
>>>Regards,
>>>Roger Hughes
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People
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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:03:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:24:36 -0600, Ed Kadach <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>WAS THERE REALLY A HOLOCAUST?
>> By Dr. E. R. Fields
>> The Holocaust has become the greatest instrument of sympathy
>>which any nation has ever been able to use to gain support for
>>wars, expansion and foreign-aid: This has made Israel the
>>world’s sixth strongest military power. The gravest threat to
>>all this wealth and influence is the growing doubt over the
>>question of whether or not a real holocaust of 6 million Jews
>>actual took place.
>> NUMBERS OF VICTIMS DON’T ADD UP
>> The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world
>>Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanacs figures were
>>supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Nest the Jewish owned
>>New York Times of Feb. 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish
>>population for that year amounted “to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000
>>in the addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine.”
>>How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war
>>years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?
>> With the rise of Hitler to power there were no more than 4
>>million Jews at the most living in areas occupied by the Third
>>Reich at the height of its power. On June 30, 1965, the
>>West German government announced that some 3,375,000 Jewish
>>holocaust “survivors” had applied for reparations money. The Red
>>Cross reported in 1946 that of registered Jewish camp inmates no
>>more than 300,000 could have died. It is interesting to note
>>that in the Jews real “bible”, The Talmud, it is claimed that
>>800,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Romans in Hadrians era. Yet
>>there is no historical evidence supporting this claim.
>> The Jewish owned New York Times, in 1945 carried an article
>>by the well known Jewish writer C.L. Sulzberger. It openly
>>stated Soviet Russia supplied the figure of 4 million Jews
>>having been put to death “in the gas chambers of Auschwitz.”
>>Thus it was the communists and the Jews who initially originated
>>these figures which today are accepted as “gospel truth”.
>> It is claimed that from 1934 to 1945 some 50,000 people died
>>in the huge Bergen-Belsen camp. This count is considered
>>exaggerated, still Time Magazine reports that of this figure
>>20,000 died of typhus during the single month of March, 1945! If
>>nearly half died of this plague in just one month at the end of
>>the war there is no way Bergen-Belsen could have been an
>>”extermination camp”
>> HIMMLER-“REDUCE DEATHS AT ALL COSTS”
>> Heinrich Himmler, chief of the Concentration Camps issued
>>orders on Dec. 28, 1942, that “The death rate in the
>>concentration camps must be reduced at all costs.” (Source,
>>Reitlinger’s book, “The Final Solution.”)
>> The camps had been hit with a deadly typhus epidemic that
>>spread by fleas and body lice. Stomach pain, high fever,
>>emaciation and death can quickly follow. All of the camps were
>>factories and the loss of workers was hurting war production.
>>Inspector of the camps, Richard Glucks responded to Himmler’s
>>order on Jan 20, 1943, “Every means will be used to lower the
>>death rates.” (Source, Nuremberg Tribunal Document No. 1523.)
>> On April 10, 1943, Oswald Pohl, head of the Economic
>>Administration Office of the camps issued a letter stating that
>>persons with tuberculosis were being sent to the camps resulting
>>in the “shockingly high mortality figures.” (Source: Nuremberg
>>Documents.) Later on Sept. 30, 1943, Pohl was able to show that
>>the camp death rate had been reduced from 8.5% in July, 1942 to
>>2.8% in June 1943.
>> The German SS arrested Buchenwald Commandant, Karl Koch in
>>1943 for mistreating and even executing some prisoners. After an
>>investigation Koch was found guilty by SS Judge Konrad Morgen
>>and shot. Does this sound like a policy of “extermination?”
>> With suspicion rapidly rising about the holocaust claim a
>>committee of Jewish leaders from New York and Paris met with
>>communist leaders in Warsaw. There they established the
>>”Committee for the Investigation of War Crimes and War
>>Criminals”. It was after this meeting that the announcement
>>was made that all gas chambers were located in Poland.
>> THE PROBLEMS OF MASS GASSING
>> In 1945 it was announced that gas death chambers existed in
>>all concentration camps in Poland, Germany, Austria and Alsace.
>>Some 15 years later, in 1960, this was revised to the new claim
>>that gas chambers existed only in camps located in Soviet held
>>Poland. Simon Weisenthal of the Los Angeles Holocaust center
>>states in the paper, “Books and Bookmen”, April 1975, page 5,
>>”No gassing took place in any camp on German soil.”
>> The pressure had been growing since The Vatican, Red Cross,
>>English Intelligence and German Intelligence chiefs Canaris and
>>Oster (who collaborated with the British) either did not know or
>>believe in rumors of gassings.
>> This brings up the following questions.
>> 1) Germans are meticulous record keepers but there is not one
>>order for the construction of any gas chamber, no blueprint, no
>>photo of any gas chamber or gassed victims.
>> 2) There have been thousands on investigations of alleged
>>Nazi war criminals, hundreds of trials, yet not one person was
>>ever accused of being involved with actual gassings! No reliable
>>witness on either side has ever come forward who saw a single
>>person gassed-AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN OVER 10,000
>>MASS GASSINGS!
>> 3) Photos of bodies at Dachau and Belsen camps are of
>>prisoners who died of typhus and malnutrition. Many Germans also
>>died from typhus.
>> 4) The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed
>>camp inmates at the end of the war about alleged gas chambers.
>>the response was always the same, “The detainees themselves have
>>not spoken of them.” (From the Red Cross document No. 9925, June
>>1946.)
>> FORCED CONFESSIONS OF GASSINGS
>> Rudoft Hoess was the commandant of Auschwitz from 1940 to
>>1943. captured by the Soviets they extracted a confession to
>>mass gassings using Zyclon-B gas. Such “confessions” are about
>>as reliable as any forced by Stalin from victims tortured before
>>taking the stand to confess during the Moscow show trials of
>>1936. The communists wrote the “Confession’ and Hoess signed it.
>>Later he was hanged. An assistant commandant refused to sign-he
>>died in his cell.
>> Hoess statement read, “half an hour after having released the
>>gas, they opened the door and started the ventilation machines.
>>They began immediately to extract the bodies while eating and
>>smoking.”
>> Was Hoess trying to get a message across that there were no
>>gassing? Zyclon-B is not “ventable”. The manufacturers state
>>Zyclon-B adheres to surface clothing and skin. They say that
>>only after a 24 hour period, wearing a gas mask with the
>>strongest filter, could any bodies be removed without killing
>>such workers. If we believe the Hoess confession that the
>>workers ran into the gas chamber “eating and smoking” – without
>>gas masks – only minutes after the gassing – IF THIS OCCURRED
>>ALL WOULD HAVE DIED!
>> GAS STORIES NOT POSSIBLE
>> The Jew Mosche Pearlmann in his book, “The Capture and Trial
>>of Adolph Eichmann” pages 375 and 385 states Zyclon-B crystals
>>were introduced from the ceilings of the gas chambers and
>>”became immediately gaseous.”
>> The American Cyanamid Co. of Linden N.J. states: “We know of
>>no chemical process whereby HCN (Zyclon-B) may be made to become
>>instantly gaseous upon exposure to air.”
>> CLAIMS OF WILLIAM SHIRER
>> Shirer claims the gas was released from overhead through fake
>>shower outlets, (page 970) and quickly killed its victims. The
>>truth is that Zyclon-B gas is lighter than air and would rise to
>>the ceiling so that anyone throwing themselves to the floor
>>would be saved. Shirer also quotes the Soviet written confession
>>signed by Hoess as stating (page 968), “We knew when the people
>>were dead because their screaming stopped.” If anyone were
>>actually killed with a cyanide type gas they would die instantly
>>thus there would be no screaming at all. The truth is that
>>Zyclon-B was used to delouse inmates clothing of lice and fleas
>>which carry typhus.
>> THE PROBLEM OF THE CREMATORIUMS
>> At the Auschwitz I camp there were only 6 crematory ovens. At
>>the hospital in Auschwitz II there are 46 single cremators. In
>>the Lubin camp there were only 6. THAT’S ALL! In these three
>>camps 3 to 4 million Jews were supposed to have been
>>exterminated and their bodies cremated. Also, these cremation
>>ovens were very small with only 18′ doors and a time period of
>>from 4 to 6 hours burning for each body using a large amount of
>>coal. Cremation for those who passed away was used in the camps
>>to prevent epidemics. Also, no large supplies of coal were ever
>>stored at the camps for cremations.
>> A VERY INTERESTING NOTE appears only in the German edition of
>>William L. Shirer’s book, “The Rise and Fall of the Third
>>Reich.” It seems the Didler-Werke Company, which built the
>>crematory ovens, sued Shirer who previously wrote that millions
>>of people were gassed and then burned in this company’s ovens.
>>In an out-of-court settlement of the suit Shirer agreed to add
>>the following footnote on page 972 of the German edition:
>> “The Didler-Werke have raised objection to the name of their
>>firm appearing in the chapter concerning the extermination
>>camps. Dr. S. Trastel, a professor of engineering in a statement
>>of Aug. 1961 established that the measurements are those which
>>are standard for a crematory oven of not very modern design
>>intended for small cemeteries and would be unsuitable for mass
>>burning.”
>> WHY IS THIS DELETED FROM THE ENGLISH EDITION???
>> On the question of cremating 6,000,000 people – this would
>>leave 15,000 tons of ashes! Such gigantic piles of ashes created
>>over the short 2 1/2 year period the holocaust supposedly took
>>place would have been very difficult to dispose of. No one has
>>ever come forward to report seeing such huge piles of tons of
>>ashes.
>> It was not until 1960 that the Soviets opened the Auschwitz
>>camp to tourists and independent investigators. No gas chamber
>>could be found. The official answer was that it was “taken to
>>another camp for gassings and then later went into oblivion!”
>> WHAT EXPERTS SAY ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST
>> Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes, eminent historian, author of 40
>>books, many standard college texts, noted in Rampart Journal,
>>1967. “It has been demonstrated that there had been no
>>systematic extermination in those camps.”
>> Thies Christopherden, a German soldier and author: “I was at
>>Auschwitz! There was no gas chamber there.”
>> Paul Rassiner, historian and anti-Nazi activist, who served a
>>prison sentence in Buchenwald and the Dora camps stated in 1962.
>>”The claim that a holocaust took place is an historic lie – the
>>most tragic and most macabre imposture of all time.”
>> Prof. Robert Faurisson, a specialist in Document Analysis at
>>the University of Lyon. France, stated on April 25, 1979. “The
>>holocaust lie, which is largely of Zionist origin, has made an
>>enormous political and financial fraud possible, whose
>>principal beneficiary is the state of Israel.”
>> WHY THE HOLOCAUST CAMPAIGN
>> Hardly a week goes by when there are not stories in the
>>press, on TV-News or movies about the alleged holocaust. What is
>>the long range design for this constant attempt to fill Germans
>>and indeed all Christians with a feeling of guilt over a
>>holocaust which never occurred?
>> Bernard Postal wrote in the Jewish Week, July 14, 1979, “Not
>>until after the holocaust, did anti-Semitism become taboo. There
>>was a time when anti-Semitic speeches were an open factor in
>>national campaigns. The holocaust put a taboo on overt anti-
>>Semitism among upper-level statesmen and publicists.”
>> S.E.D. Brown of South Africa, a noted journalist writes, “The
>>holocaust instills a guilt complex in those said to be guilty
>>and spreads the demoralization, degeneration, and eventually the
>>destruction of the natural racial elite among a people. This
>>transfers effective political control to the lowest elements who
>>will cowtow to the Jews.”
>> Zionist spokesmen often boast of: “The shattering effect of
>>the holocaust on the Christian conscience resulting in a feeling
>>of collective indebtedness to the Jews.”
>> Massive unending U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel in made possible
>>because anyone who dares to oppose these outrageous giveaways is
>>condemned as being “anti-Semitic” and “insensitive” to holocaust
>>victims.
>> The Jews hold an unnatural violent hatred for the German
>>people. Jews seek to turn all other peoples of the world against
>>the Germans and keep that nation divided for all time to come.
>>That is why no peace treaty has ever been signed as yet with
>>Germany and they still live under Allied military occupation
>>laws.
>> A QUESTION OF FUND RAISING
>> The Wall Street Journal quotes Jewish professional fund-
>>raising consultant firm of Milton Goldin Co., as saying the main
>>theme of Jewish fund-raising is the holocaust and has been for
>>38 years. When they don’t use the holocaust the money collection
>>sharply drops off. Thus the more the Press, TV and Hollywood
>>promotes the holocaust the more money the United Jewish Appeal
>>and other Zionist funds can extract from gullible people.
>> HOLOCAUST SILENCES OPPOSITION
>> Jewish leaders have discovered that by repeating holocaust
>>stories over and over again they can instill a guilt complex
>>within all Gentiles. This effectively silences most critics of
>>Zionist political goals.
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On Fri, 04 Dec 1998 15:34:20 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>If this is true, what are the tax departments in Canada and the US
>doing to send the criminals to prison??
>>On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 15:58:29 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>>>>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>>>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger <[email protected]>wrote
>>>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>>>Nothing new here.
>>>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>>>><among hundreds of others>
>>>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses >>>>>>> to answer??
>>>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>>>>> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>>>>> Or, in the USA, you can contact IRS Assistant Commissioner Ted F. Brown
>>>>>>> tollfree at (800) 829 – 0433
>>>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>>>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>>>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>>>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>>>>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>>>>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>>>
>>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>>>>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>>>> > letters?
>>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who >>>>>travel to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>>>>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>>>>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>>Brith’s butt.
>>>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the >>>>>>> stench of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>>>>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>>>>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>>>>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>>>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that >>>>>Bnai Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is >>>>>US or Canadian dollars.
>>>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the >>>>>>> >pockets of OyVey???
>>>>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in >>>>>>>alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>>>>letter just ask.
>>>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>>>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>>>>>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>>>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>>>>>>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>>>>>>> The League is working closely
>>>>>>> >with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>>>>>> >”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>>>>>> >B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office.”
>>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>>>> >promote Jewish interests.
>>>>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>>>>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book
>>>>> “By Way of Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts
>>>>>you might have of what the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with ‘loan’ grants or
>>>>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>>>>> >dramatizations.
>>>>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>>>>>[email protected]
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It seems that some of the jews, and their lackeys, just do not want
people to THINK!!!
On Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:56:22 +0000, ASMarques <[email protected]>
wrote:
>****** THE 6 MILLION CABALISTIC FIGURE ******
>The so-called “Holocaust” of 6 million Jews during the Second World War
>is a durable and pernicious myth. It’s more than that: it’s also a
>modern genuinely superstitious taboo for the “intellectually
>challenged”, the most successful and cynical historical hoax for power
>and money ever devised, and the worst menace to intellectual liberty and
>freedom of speech under the present pervasive cargo cult of nominal
>”Human Rights” that allow governments to suppress both Truth and Right,
>under the pretence of caring for so-called oppressed weak minorities
>that cannot stand being “offended” by the open debate of religious
>belief.
>The 6 million figure for the Jewish victims of the “Holocaust” was born
>out of war propaganda and religious need, with no statistical study at
>all being done, it was promoted as a dogma after the Nuremberg trials,
>it contradicts important population data, it was never verified, and any
>attempt at investigating it in a scientific way was and is reacted to as
>an attack on a religious dogma. The problem is difficult to present in
>its entirety, but in its general lines is as follows:
>**********
>1) Statistics and census for Jewish populations living in each country
>are difficult to take and present enormous variations, since “Jewish”,
>not being a purely national, cultural, religious or ethnic group
>classification, is nevertheless a mixture of all of those. To try to
>count with any semblance of precision the Jewish population of countries
>where Jews exist in great numbers is like trying to catch quicksilver.
>**********
>2) Figures are falsified with a view to increase the victimisation. For
>example, the figures in the World Almanach from the American Jewish
>Committee and the Jewish Statistical Bureau of the Synagogue Council of
>America showed in 1941, for the year 1939, an European population of
>8.939.608 Jews, and a World population of 15.748.091.
>But in 1949, the same source in the same publication, showed *for the
>same year of 1939*, for Europe 9.739.200, and for the World 16.643.120.
>That is, in 1949, 800.000 more Jews for the Europe of 1939 and 955.000
>more Jews for the World are suddenly discovered to have been forgotten
>in the previous counts. No explanation for this is furnished.
>Think about it:
>In 1941: population for 1939 is given as 8.939.608
>In 1949: population for 1939 is given as 9.739.200
>
>A sudden *retroactive* 8 % rise of the previous number of Jews in Europe
>for 1939! Why? What for?
>The 1941 statistic cited above, gave for 1933 the number of 9.494.363
>Jews in Europe, which implies the notion that at least 555.000 Jews had
>left Europe between 1933 and 1939, before any internment or
>”extermination”, i.e. that a mass emigration out of Europe was already
>taking place.
>**********
>3) This emigration continued in an even larger scale after 1945, and
>it’s certain that under the auspices of the U.N.R.R.A. great numbers of
>Jews left Europe, without being classified as Jews. A great deal is made
>out of the fact that the Jewish population of Poland dropped enormously
>during the War, but this is hardly news, since the German deportation of
>Polish Jews to the East was very thorough and the return of uprooted
>deportees to their ruined Eastern European dwelling places, back to
>strongly anti-semitic environments among such upheavals and mass
>dislocations as the War provoked, would have been very surprising.
>A typical recent example of this “nameless” emigration taking place even
>before the War, is the case of U.S. Secretary of State Madeline
>Allbright’s own parents: *after* a journalistic investigation, she
>suddenly discovered that her parents which had come from Czechoslovakia
>to the U.S.A. were in fact Czech Jews and her grandparents had died “at
>Auschwitz” (the media dixit).
>Newsweek (17 Feb., 1997) calls this an “extraordinary piece of personal
>news” and a “late-in-life revelation”. Those who will believe her
>parents had kept their being Jewish a secret *even* to their own
>daughter are welcome to do so, but anyway the fact that Mrs. Allbright’s
>family would not be on record as being Jewish in any statistics at all
>is the relevant part of the story. Please note the same magazine issue
>has editorials by other emigrants’ children who say they were equally
>surprised when they discovered their Jewish origin. They say “people
>have been having similar experiences for the last decade or so”, and
>those readers more familiar with probability calculation will admit that
>maybe, just maybe, the Secretary of State’s parents were not the only
>ones to have hidden their origin for their entire lives in their country
>of adoption, even though some doubts relative to their ability to keep
>this esoteric knowledge from their own sons and daughters will be quite
>understandable…
>**********
>4) The amazing calculations “Holocaust scholars” do, trying to get
>numbers as near the mandatory 6 million or so as possible, are nonsense
>stemming from the need to accommodate an a-priori fictional number of
>victims with any possible reality allowing for it, by calculating
>railroad schedules and movements, numbers of standing individuals per
>square inch in each imaginary gas chamber, numbers of magical cremations
>per minute, etc. The result is a jungle of contradictions in which
>everything is allowed but from which nothing at all comes with any
>degree of probability, much less certainty. They might as well count the
>proverbial angels dancing on the pinhead.
>The Encyclopaedia Britannica for 1957, for instance, says “about 2
>million people, Jewish for the major part, were exterminated between
>1941 and 1945” in Mauthausen (vol. 10, p. 288), but the 1986 edition,
>says “out of the probable 355.000 inmates passing through Mauthausen and
>its satellites, more than 122.000 died from execution or privation”. On
>the other hand, the same 1986 edition, attributes, with all the
>appearance of great precision, to the small transit camp of Sobibor —
>about which next to nothing is known (with good reason) except that it
>functioned for 16 months — “250.000 killed in five gas chambers”. No
>more, no less, but it still manages to assert categorically that “only
>about thirty people escaped”…
>These are in no way occasional isolated errors. Glaring contradictions
>and nonsensical estimates out of the blue are indeed the rule in every
>one of the most “serious” sources, at least as much as in the popular
>literature by true or false “survivors”. Every new effort on the part of
>”Holocaust scholars” — a new priesthood class for a new religion —
>tends to dissimulate this very fact at the core of every revisionist
>doubt, instead of helping to clear up the confusion and pointing out the
>inconsistencies, with a view to establish where the historical truth
>lies.
>Where silence, dissimulation and cover-up, rather than exposure and
>discussion, are the practice, censorship and liberticide repressive laws
>will be the result. This too can be seen, most notably in the European
>Union countries, Switzerland, Canada and other unfortunate places where
>no guarantee similar to the American 1st Amendment remotely exists, and
>a strange cargo cult of “Human Rights” makes it possible for fines and
>prison sentences to be imposed on historical investigators, whenever a
>privileged minority resents the truth as undesirable to its purposes and
>activates the pervasive “anti-hate” orwellian laws. “Hate speech” has
>become a true newspeak neologism meaning “speaking the truth on
>unpopular topics”, “anti-semit” now means little more than someone who
>is hated by Jews, and “neo-Nazi” is frequently used to point out anyone
>who thinks Nazism is dead and gone for good.
>As the Canadian “Human Rights” tribunal put it during the most recent
>instalment of the decades-long persecution of German Canadian citizen
>Ernst Zundel: “Truth constitutes no defence”.
>
>The same could be said to all those who have been censored, persecuted
>and jailed in France on “incorrect historiography” grounds thanks to the
>historically unprecedented Fabius-Gayssot law, like Robert Faurisson,
>Pierre Guillaume, Vincent Reynouard or muslim author Roger Garaudy.
>Hardly news either for Juergen Graf, imprisoned in the cuckoo-clock
>Confederation in spite of all the local Wilhelm Tell’s freedom loving
>nursery tales for grown-ups, or Pedro Varela, jailed for five years on
>account of selling books that doubted the “Holocaust” (in Spain, a crime
>equivalent to “genocide”) or the more than 8.000 political prisoners
>guilty of holding revisionist opinions in anti-nazi Germany where “human
>rights” worship requires jailing humans for crimespeak with the help of
>laws dating from the Nazi era.
>**********
>5) Auschwitz, the “factory of death” where the bulk of the so-called
>”Holocaust” racial extermination has been placed for decades, is, as
>should have been expected, the acme of the numerical pandemonium, and
>this heart of the “Holocaust” legend is truly emblematic of the whole
>hoax: it was 4.000.000 dead according to the camp monument in front of
>which Catholic Popes and German Chancellors crawled on all four, but
>recently that was changed to 1.500.000 and please don’t ask why. Is it
>really that simple?
>
>Here is a series of figures for Auschwitz, compiled by Robert Faurisson,
>just to let you feel how interestingly diverse total ignorance can be.
>Please check up the precise sources and important notes at:
>http://members.aol.com/ihrgreg/misc/auschwitz_deaths.html
>9,000,000 persons
>according to the documentary film Nuit et Brouillard (“Night and Fog”,
>1955), whose historical advisers were the historian Henri Michel and the
>woman historian Olga Wormser-Migot
>8,000,000 persons
>according to the French War Crime Research Office and the French War
>Crime Information Service (1945)
>7,000,000 persons
>according to Raphaël Feigelson (1945)
>6,000,000 Jews
>according to Tibère Kremer, writer of a foreword for Miklos Nyiszli
>(1951)
>5,000,000 to 5,500,000 persons
>according to Bernard Czardybon (1945), according to confessions
>attributed to some SS members and according to the newspaper Le Monde
>(1978), which was adding: “of whom 90% of Jews”
>4,500,000 persons
>according to Henryk Mandelbaum (1945)
>4,000,000 persons
>according to a Soviet document of which the Nuremberg tribunal took
>”judicial notice”. This figure was inscribed nineteen times, with a
>commentary in as many different languages, on the Auschwitz-Birkenau
>monument. It was repeated by a sizable number of persons, including the
>Polish historian Franciszek Piper. It was to be declared false in 1990
>and replaced, on the monument, in 1995, by the figure of 1,500,000 with
>the concurrence of the same F. Piper for whom this figure is a maximum
>while the minimum figure is of 1,100,000. According to Miriam Novitch
>(1967), of the 4,000,000 dead, 2,700,000 were Jewish. According to Rabbi
>Moshe Weiss (1991), more than 4,000,000 persons died at Auchwitz, of
>whom 3,000,000 were Jews
>3,500,000 persons
>according to the Dictionnaire de la langue française published by
>Hachette (1991). According to Claude Lanzmann (1980), there were
>3,500,000 gassed of whom 95% of Jews as well as many other deaths
>3,000,000 persons
>until December 1st, 1943, according to a confession extorted from Rudolf
>Höss, ex-Commander of Auschwitz
>3,000,000 Jews gassed
>according to David Susskind (1986) and according to Heritage, the most
>important Californian Jewish weekly (1993)
>2,500,000 persons
>according to Rudolf Vrba for the Eichmann trial (1961)
>2,000,000 (?) to 4,000,000 (?)
>according to the historian Yehuda Bauer (1982)
>2,000,000 to 3,000,000 Jews killed as well as thousands of non-Jews
>according to a confession attributed to an SS in charge, Pery Broad
>2,000,000 to 2,500,000 persons killed
>according to a confession attributed to an SS physician, Dr. Friedrich
>Entress (1945)
>2,000,000 persons
>according to the historian Léon Poliakov (1951); according to the
>historian Georges Wellers (1973) and according to the woman historian
>Lucy Davidowicz (1975)
>1,600,000 persons
>according to the historian Yehuda Bauer (1989), of whom 1,352,980 Jews
>(the latter figure is from Georges Wellers, 1983)
>1,500,000 persons
>this figure, chosen by Lech Walesa, replaced, in 1995, on the Birkenau
>monument, that of 4,000,000 which had been withdrawn in 1990
>1,471,595 persons
>of whom 1,352,980 Jews, according to the historian Georges Wellers
>(1983)
>1,250,000 persons or so
>of whom 1,000,000 Jews killed and more than 250,000 non-Jews dead,
>according to the historian Raul Hilberg
>1,100,000 to 1,500,000 persons
>according to the historians Yisrael Gutman, Michael Berenbaum and
>Franciszek Piper (1994)
>1,000,000 persons
>according to Jean-Claude Pressac (1989) and according to the
>Dictionnaire des noms propres published by Hachette (1992)
>800,000 to 900,000 persons
>according to the historian Gerald Reitlinger (1953)
>775,000 to 800,000 persons
>according to Jean-Claude Pressac (1993), of whom 630,000 were Jews
>gassed
>630,000 to 710,000 persons
>according to Jean-Claude Pressac (1994), of whom from 470,000 to 550,000
>were Jews gassed
>Please note that although in his “spontaneous” confession (with the help
>of “alcohol and the whip”, as he himself put it) camp Commandant Rudolf
>Hoess, the so-called “proud technician”, claimed 3.000.000, few
>apparently take notice or believe him…
>And we therefore reach the last generation of figures (no pun intended)
>with Jean-Claude Pressac who pointed out a figure of 775.000 in 1993.
>However, he lowered the total number to 630.000 victims — only “470.000
>to 550.000″ of which Jews — in 1994, on a particularly nice day when
>the sun shone and the little birds sang in his garden, and some other
>”scholars” apparently stopped talking to him.
>Of course, as soon as 08.01.1948, “Welt im Film” (British newsreel,
>nbr. 137) indicated 300.000, but more recently it was revealed that the
>mortuary books (Sterbebücher) which had been kept during the war by the
>Auschwitz camp authorities exist at least from 27.07.1941 to 31.12.1943.
>Since the camp was opened 20.05.1940 and evacuated 18.01.1945, that
>period represents a little more than half the duration of the camp’s
>existence under German authority. The books, as released after more than
>40 years, thanks in part to the Zundel trials of 1985 and 1988, appear
>to include approximately 69,000 names.
>How about the International Red Cross archives at Arolsen, always closed
>to revisionists? Can the archives of an organisation like the IRC be
>trusted, since neither individual “scholars” nor the media even appear
>to know what they are talking about? Here is the figure then
>(17.08.1994):
>– International Red Cross at Arolsen: 66.206
> Dept. of Holocaust investigations (Ref. nbr: 10824)
>Could this be nearer the truth than the figures involving millions for
>Auschwitz alone?
>After all, the “gas chamber” of Auschwitz-I has been acknowledged by the
>Auschwitz Museum curator and the French paper “Le Monde” (“everything is
>false about it”) to have been “rebuilt” after the War by the Soviets.
>What for, you ask? Well, for educational purposes, of course! The
>same as Dachau (near Munich) and Natzviler (near Strasbourg) where
>tourists are still shown the gas chambers of the Nuremberg trial era as
>the main attractions of the respective concentration camp luna-parks,
>complete with their “faked showerheads”, in spite of their acknowledged
>non-existence ever since the “gas chambers” collectively migrated to
>far-away Poland…
>As for the “gas chambers” of Auschwitz-II (i.e. Birkenau), they were
>simply the morgues (“Leichenkeller”) of the crematory buildings,
>identified as such in every document since the construction blueprints
>themselves, and clean of residual cyanide compounds — unlike the real
>non-homicidal gas chambers which clearly show the residual vestiges of
>the systematic anti-typhus delousing of clothes and other materials with
>Zyklon B, the commercial cyanide-based pesticide widely used not only in
>every camp to decrease the risk of epidemics in the pre-DDT days, but
>also in military barracks and industrial facilities ever since the 1920s
>(and still with us today through normal over-the-counter sale).
>You’ll find the story of the successive analysis and testing of the
>”gas-chambers” under the designations of “Leuchter”, “Rudolf” and
>”Lüftl” Reports through a fast search of the web. More related
>information will be found by searching for “Zundel trial”.
>So, which is it? Is it 9.000.000? Is it 66.206? Is it something in
>between? Is the matter totally irrelevant to the 6 million total? Is
>the gas chamber “Holocaust” a sinister joke played on us?
>The answer to the last question is an easy one and it should constitute
>good news to everyone concerned. Yes, you may rejoice; for the homicidal
>gas chambers are nothing more than a sinister joke.
>********
>6) In spite of all the unbelievable fluctuations, the magical figure of
>6 million is kept ever since Nuremberg, as if its calculation didn’t
>depend on any detailed study or any final sum of known partial figures,
>and its religious character has increased since then. Once one
>understands there is absolutely no global statistic *or* detailed study
>behind its permanent untouchable status since 1945, one can only
>attribute a symbolic anti-historical character to the 6 million dead and
>the 6 “extermination” camps. The reason for the number has everything to
>do with the religion of the 6-pointed star and its traditional
>propensity for numerical cabalisms, and nothing at all with any
>objective investigation.
>Here is one instance of the 6 million figure from 1919:
>http://members.aol.com/ihrgreg/documents/191031crucifixion.html
>**********
>7) As for the revisionist numbers — the only ones born of basic data
>instead of religious mumbo-jumbo — they are somewhat different and much
>more consistent. The *only* meticulous and detailed study, from the
>viewpoint of population statistics, ever done (and using Jewish
>originated data) — “The Dissolution of Eastern European Jewry” by
>Walter Sanning — estimates in 3.500.000 the *total* number of Jews in
>the German sphere of influence for the duration of the War, and in
>2.400.000 the number of Jews alive at the end of the War in the
>countries previously occupied by Germany (with the exclusion of the
>USSR). His conclusions are confirmed by Carl Nordling — a Finnish
>demographer, using statistical inference methods applied to samples of
>known individual histories — and place the total of Jewish victims of
>the concentration camps at between 300.000 and 600.000. Sanning’s study
>was never contested with data of an equally statistical nature.
>**********
>8) Working, on the other hand, from various sources including mainly the
>secret reports of Richard Korherr (who had the post of “Inspector of
>Statistics for the Reichsfuehrer-SS”) to Himmler on the Jewish
>deportations, Stephen Challen reaches the following numbers: 1.200.000
>Jews dead in the whole of Europe during the War, 450.000 of whom in
>parts of European Russia not occupied by the Germans, and 750.000 in the
>area of German direct or indirect responsibility. Of 2.300.000 deported
>Jews, 360.000 died, and a total of 200.000 died in the concentration
>camps. He estimates the Jewish losses heavy and, in proportion,
>comparable to the German or Soviet ones, but no more than about 20 % of
>what is usually believed.
>**********
>9) Robert Faurisson — the best known French revisionist investigator —
>tentatively puts the figures as: a probable number in the order of
>1.000.000 dead for the Jewish total of War victims (in the order of the
>hundreds of thousands if we don’t count the Jews fighting in the Allied
>armies), and a number between 200.000 and 360.000 for the total of all
>dead in the concentration camps from 1934 to 1945.
>**********
>10) The true numbers of the “Holocaust” (on the order of the hundreds of
>thousands) are reconcilable with the terrible results of the most cruel
>War ever fought, including the tragedies of the concentration and labour
>camps where many died from epidemics and a wide variety of war related
>causes — but not with the myth of deliberate racial “extermination”.
>Why keeping the labour camps full of walking skeletons supposedly
>”starved on purpose” and quite unable to work, and why “provoking” or
>”allowing” epidemics that would put in risk the lives of the SS
>personnel themselves? Obviously those images in the public mind,
>arising from the unwarranted and uncontrollable conditions at the camp
>of Bergen-Belsen in 1945, were uncalled for results of a catastrophic
>War, not “extermination” by design.
>And the 6 million cabalistic number is no more than a pious myth.
>**************************************
>Bookmark the following URLs for an enormous wealth of information in
>several languages you won’t easily find anywhere else:
>http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/leaflets.html (excellent introduction)
>http://www.codoh.com/
>http://www.ihr.org/index.html
>http://members.aol.com/ihrgreg/index.html
>http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/index.html
>http://abbc.com/aaargh/
>http://www.vho.org/Home.html
>http://www.adam.com.au/fredadin/adins.html
>http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
>http://www.air-photo.com/
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>> Insights from abroad
>> Doug Collins
>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>> that is ignored in Canada.
>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>> served in Hitler’s forces as high ranking officers.
>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>> about “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.”
>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>> was Erhard Milch, who “masterminded German aircraft production and
>> transformed the Luftwaffe.” His father was Jewish.
>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of “mixed Jewish race or
>> married to Jews.” They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>> Seventeen “Jews in Nazi uniform” were awarded the Knights Cross,
>> Germany’s highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>> more. The research is continuing.
>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>> alive.
>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>> father, “wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle.”
>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>> whether they were “victims or perpetrators.”
>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>> documents in the process.
>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler’s Germany; also that no Jew
>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, “It makes
>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated.”
>> He stated, too, that Rigg’s research would “inform both the argument
>> about Hitler’s role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans.”
>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg’s research may be
>> used by “deniers.” But most “deniers” do not deny that large numbers of
>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>> was a Jew.
>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>> one were seen as “mixed race” and were also denied full citizenship.
>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of “Aryan descent.” Milch, sentenced to a
>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>> plotting against Hitler.
>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>> wonder why?
>> —The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
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On Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:19:26 -0700, Shlyssa <[email protected]>
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>Israel Refuses To Extradite Jewish Polish War Criminal
> Dateline: Warsaw, Poland –The State of Israel refused today to
> extradite a Jewish criminal who is charged with a series of
> horrific atrocities against German prisoners after WW II.
> Solomon “Ritual Murderer Solly” Morel, was Commandant of a camp
> of German prisoners in southern Poland. “Ritual Murderer Solly”
> stands accused of torturing Christian inmates and is believed
> responsible for the torture deaths of 1,538 White inmates. Morel
> allegedly commanded the Concentration Camp “strictly by the Talmud”
> which prescribes ritual abuse and murder for white Christians.
> Poland requested Morel’s extradition in April on charges of beating
> and torturing prisoners and inhuman conditions at the Swietochlowice
> Concentration Camp, which Morel headed from February to November 1945.
> Israel refused the request last month, saying the statute of limitations
> surely must have run out on the case. A spokesman for the Mossad, of
> which Morel is now an active member, stated that the charges against
> “Ritual Murderer Solly” Morel failed to meet the definition of
> genocide under Israeli law.
> It is widely speculated that “the Jewish definition of genocide”
> pre-empts the prosecution of Jews and Israelis for crimes against
> White persons –particularly Christians. Their own Talmud proscribing
> a historical pattern of unrelenting assaults on whites and Christians.
> Israel is believed, currently, to be concealing several thousands of
> Jewish war criminals –so many of these in fact the “founders of
> Israel”. Most all of the founders of Israel being active collaborators
> with Nazi Germany’s Adolph Eichmann. The Kastner “collaboration
> trials” of the late 1950’s decided the complicity of these “fathers
> of Israel”. After Kastner implicated Ben Gurion and other Israeli
> leaders, he was assassinated by Israel’s Mossad, a secret police
> similar to the Gestapo.
> At the close of WW II, as many as one million German soldiers died
> in the hands of the Allied forces in “detention camps”. Reports are
> that many of these –usually Christian– Germans were tortured and
> murdered by rogue Jewish marxists.
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Your offer to the crypto-Jew is emminenly sensible.
Your note about the prosecution of historians in Poland is extremely
disturbing.
Does this mean that the Polish JEWS are still controlling Poland,
through the JEW Communist Party?/
Are they still connected to the JEW DZERZHINSKI, who established the
Soviet Communist secret Police, responsible for the KATYN MURDERS, as
well as the genocide of more than 300 million Ukrainians??
On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 16:16:44 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Dear Marzena,
> I notice your unhappiness about Polish Historical Society, as well the
>fact that you are reluctant to spell out that you are of a Polish ethnic
>background. But I wish to assure you that once we find a few of the
>hundreds of missing mass graves and bones of 4,000,000 Jews Nazis did
>not have the time to cremate, we will become holocaustians like you,
>again, and then you will be happy “with our class”.
> Why dont you help us to do it? The first step is to contribute about
>$1000.00 with which we could look for the presence or absence of such
>graves in wartime aerial photos at the US National. Archives. We found
>them in the air photos of Katyn and Treblinka I for Poles. We will
>check the areas suggested by the contributors and especially Jews (e.g.
>of the well known Vilnius or the small shtetl of Yedwabne). Support of
>other contributors is welcomed. Isn’t that worth of us, again, becoming
>holocaustians.
> Many of you contributed an estimated total of $150,000 for the search
>of a few small graves in air photos of Bosnia with a splendid results!
>With a one time contribution of $1,000 you could shot down the entire
>proliferating and burgeoning Holocaust Revisionism will collapse. You
>are unnecessarily ashamed of the PHS. Please remember that even The New
>York Times illustrated and entitled our essay “Do Not Cut Off All
>Debate About Holocaust” on 1/1/94.
> There is little doubt that you are a Polish crypto-Jew. Thus, you
>should worry about four periodicals are being presently sold at the
>newsstands which persistently carry Holocaust revisionists articles.
>All of them especially Stanczyk are at the highest scholarly and
>philosophical level. Adam Gmurczyk, a 34 years old historian and an
>editor of the monthly Szczerbiec was featured five weeks ago on the
>front page of the governmental daily Trybuna because the Prosecutor
>General wants to file charges against him for translating and publishing
>”66 Question and Answers About the Holocaust.” The maximum penalty
>Gmurczyk is face is twenty three years in prison. During the last five
>years Poland became the hotbed of Holocaust Revisionism. Even in USA,
>protected by the First Amendment, not a single newsstand or bookstore is
>know to sell any revisionist literature.
> Graduate of Polish Catholic Academy (an university), Gmurczyk says “We
>can not build greatness of our country on someone elses lies.”
>Revisionism is also burgeoning in Turkey, Russia, Ukraine and slowly in
>Arabic countries. It is prosecuted in France, Germany, Switzerland and
>Sweden.
> If you want to stop it, lets start to look for the mass graves of
>4,000,000 Jews, whom the Nazis did not have time to cremate. The
>rallying cry of Revisionists is:
> NO BONES, NO HOLOCAUST!
>Sincerely,
>Jan Konieczny
>Marzena wrote:
>>
>> I will say again, people like yourself do not make the rest of us feel
>> proud to be Polish. After reading your thoughts one is left with a rather
>> unpleasant taste in one’s mouth. One would expect little bit of class and
>> respect for fellows readers.
>> Wish you best
>> Marzena Banks
>> ———-
>> > From: PAWLIKOWSKI <[email protected]>
>> > To: Marzena
>> > Subject: Re: Polish Friends
>> > Date: Wednesday, September 24, 1997 4:20 AM
>> > M.Banks wrote:
>> > > You are a sick individual and I am ashamed that you are Polish. Get a
>> > > life!
>> > > PAWLIKOWSKI <[email protected]> wrote in article
>> > > <[email protected]>…
>> > > > ==========
>> > > > this sanctimoniuos graphomaniac posted the message below also on
>> > > > soc.culture.ukrainian but entitled Ukrainian Friends. This lying Jew
>> > > > does not post on soc.culture.jewish
>> > > > jp
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Forwarding the following Media Release from UCCLA.
Stefan Lemieszewski
==================================================
Ukrainian Canadian Civil Liberties Association
Calgary Office, 48 Woodcrest Close SW, Calgary, Alberta T2W 3P9
Tel: (403) 251 5594 / Fax: (403) 238 4546
Media Release
JEWISH GROUP REFUSES TO SUPPORT GENOCIDE MUSEUM
For Immediate Release (Toronto/Calgary/Sudbury) 12 April 1999
Spokespersons for the Ukrainian Canadian community reacted with dismay
to a recent report in the Canadian Jewish News (9 April 1999), entitled
“Holocaust museum may be derailed : Ukrainian-led effort could disrupt
plans,” by David Lazarus and Paul Lungen.
According to this article, the Canadian Jewish Congress has refused to
co-operate with CANADIANS FOR A GENOCIDE MUSEUM, which has been actively
lobbying the federal government to provide permanent federal funding for
an INCLUSIVE genocide museum in Ottawa, that would recall the many
episodes of genocide and mass murder that have befallen many ethnic,
religious and racial minorities in this century and before, not only in
Europe, but in Asia, Africa and other parts of the world. Led by Mr J B
GREGOROVICH, who also serves as chairman of the UKRAINIAN CANADIAN CIVIL
LIBERTIES ASSOCIATION, the 20 constituent groups of the CFAGM, including
representatives of the First Nations, Afro Canadians, Palestinians and
other Canadian communities, invited the Jewish Canadian community to
participate, only to be rebuffed.
Moshe RONEN, president of the CANADIAN JEWISH CONGRESS, has said that
PRIME MINISTER JEAN CHRETIEN has promised Jewish Canadians their own
museum, that would apparently focus only on Jewish losses during the
Second World War, excluding the millions of non-Jews who perished during
the Nazi terror. A spokesman for the Simon Wiesenthal Centre, Sol
LITTMAN, decried CFAGM plans as being an attempt to “stymie” plans for a
Holocaust (i.e. Jewish-only) museum, denouncing Mr Gregorovich of being
guilty of “issue envy.”
Commenting, Mr Stefan Petelycky, a Holocaust survivor, Auschwitz tattoo
#154922, said:
“As a Canadian who survived the Holocaust, and in particular the Nazi
concentration camps of Auschwitz, Mathausen and Ebensee, and who saw
many of my friends perish there, Jews and non-Jews alike, I am very
shocked to hear Mr Ronen’s claim that Ottawa plans to remember only some
of the victims and not others. That is unacceptable to me as a Holocaust
survivor.”
Speaking for UCCLA, Mr Gregorovich noted:
“We are in favour of a federally funded genocide museum in our nation’s
capital, an educational and commemorative centre that would be
inclusive, and would include the Jewish Shoah and the many other
episodes of genocide that many peoples and nations suffered in this
century and before, in Europe and elsewhere around the world. Our
proposal in no way diminishes the Shoah or the impact of that terrible
crime against humanity on the Jewish people then, or since. It is
morally repugnant, however, for anyone to suggest that our shared
efforts to recall the genocide of 1933 in Soviet Ukraine, or the tens of
millions of persons slaughtered by the communists throughout occupied
eastern Europe, or in the killing fields of Cambodia, or the victims in
Armenia, Bosnia, Rwanda an example of “issue envy.” Persons making such
comments seem to be intent on genocide-denial. Unlike them, we are not
trying to exclude the memory of any genocide, nor give any war crime or
crime against humanity precedence over any other. This is
Canada. We live in a multicultural society, one in which we should all
become more aware of the tragedies that befell all of our nations and
peoples before we came to find sanctuary in this great country. A
genocide museum would not only educate us all about the horrors of the
past but would, in our view, contribute to nation-building by making us
all appreciative how fortunate we are to be able to live together in
freedom in Canada.”
For More Information Please Contact:
Mr. J.B. Gregorovich, Chair, UCCLA (519) 323-9349
also visit www.infoukes.com/uccla
National Office, Suite 277, 3044 Bloor Street West, Toronto, Ontario,
M8X 2Y8
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ZUNDEL VICTORIOUS OVER ZIONISTS!
ZGram – Where Truth is Destiny and Destination
Copyright (c) 1999 – Ingrid A. Rimland
April 13, 1999
Good Morning from the Zundelsite:
Have I got news for you! Ernst Zundel won three out of five judicial
reviews, with one more pending! It’s been some drama in Toronto, and folks
at the Zundel-Haus are flying high tonight! The consequences might well
have shaken the Holocaust Enforcers to their knees!
Here is today’s press release, with much more to come tomorrow. It is too
late to give you an interpretation, but this press release will tell you
the rudiments.
I can tell you that we are happy campers!
Sweet victory:
April 13, 1999
Attention: Assignment Editor
Ernst Z|ndel has won three judicial reviews against decisions of the
Canadian Human Rights Tribunal. The Tribunal is hearing complaints against
Mr. Z|ndel under section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act laid by Sabina
Citron and the Toronto Mayor’s Committee on Community and Race Relations
which allege that he is inciting hatred against Jewish people in the
Internet website, the “Zundelsite.” The site is owned and operated by
Dr. Ingrid Rimland in California, United States.
The rulings, made by Mr. Justice Campbell of the Federal Court of Canada on
April 13, 1999 in Toronto, found that Mr. Z|ndel had a reasonable
apprehension that one of the members of the Human Rights Tribunal, Reva
Esther Devins, a Toronto lawyer, was biased against him. The apprehension
of bias was based on a 1988 press release issued by the Ontario Human
Rights Commission when Ms. Devins sat as a Commissioner. In the press
release, the Ontario Human Rights Commission “applauded” the criminal
conviction of Mr. Z|ndel for spreading false news about the Holocaust in
the publication “Did Six Million Really Die?” and denounced him as a
liar.
Mr. Justice Campbell held that the press release was a gratuitous attack on
Mr. Z|ndel which Mr. Z|ndel was right to believe raised a reasonable
apprehension of bias against him on the part of Reva E. Devins.
The Court also quashed two rulings made by the Human Rights Tribunal with
Ms. Devins’ participation. In these rulings, the Tribunal had held that the
truth of the statements complained of was irrelevant and that Mr. Z|ndel
would be unable to call any evidence to prove truth. In the second ruling,
the Tribunal had refused to qualify Dr. Alexander Jacob as an expert
witness in the history of anti Semitism. The Court held that the
“extraordinary circumstances” of the finding of bias required its intervention.
The rulings throw into doubt the entire proceedings before the Tribunal as
all rulings made are tainted by the participation by Reva E. Devins and
subject to further review by the courts.
Douglas H. Christie, lawyer for Mr. Z|ndel has written to the Canadian
Human Rights Commission, demanding that the complaints be withdrawn.
Mr. Z|ndel says, “The struggle for the Germans to tell their side of the
story of World War II continues. How many millions more will Canadian
governments spend on shoring up the Jewish version of history?”
For further information, call the Zundel-Haus at 416-922-9850
—
“Update on yesterday’s victory”
ZGram – Where Truth is Destiny and Destination
Copyright (c) 1999 – Ingrid A. Rimland
April 14, 1999
Good Morning from the Zundelsite:
No, champagne didn’t flow – since boozing isn’t part of our lifestyle!
But joy ran high, and the severely tested faith in Canada’s justice system
has, at least for now, been partially restored at Zundel Headquarters.
Judge Campbell’s sweeping ruling for our side has thrown the whole obscene
Human Rights Tribunal actions and behavior open to public and judicial
scrutiny!
To recap very briefly:
For two-and-a-half years, Ernst Zundel asked for judicial reviews to have a
real court, staffed by real judges, look at the one-sided and legally
questionable rulings handed down by the Human Rights Tribunal in the, by
now, three-year-old struggle around the Zundelsite.
The idea was to get a court of higher jurisdiction to look at what was
being done by agenda-driven, ideologically motivated quasi-courts called
“Human Rights Commissions” and/or “Tribunals” in Canada.
Ernst and his legal team have fought virtually alone, without support from
the armchair free-speechers, without much media support, with practically
superhuman strength – against all the money and clout of Canada’s
Holocaust Lobby who feared these judicial reviews, as I have said again and again,
like the proverbial devil fears the crucifix.
At the cost of hundreds of thousands of (largely) taxpayers’ dollars to
underwrite the prosecution of Ernst Zundel, every conceivable obstacle,
every deliberate delay and unheard-of rulings by political appointees were
thrown into his path – in the hope that his resolve would weaken, his
strength would give out, and his financial and legal resources be
depleted completely.
At the end of last year and the beginning of this year, the atmosphere in
the Tribunal hearings was so brazenly high-handed, arrogant, brutal and
poisonous that more than one observer described the situation as “satanic.”
By hook or by crook, these hearings were to be the instrument to do him
in – Ernst Zundel was going to be finished!
At the end of January 1999, Ernst finally succeeded in having Judge Reed
declare that he was ***entitled*** to have these five judicial reviews to
be heard – against the strenuous objections of the Canadian Jewish
Congress and B’nai Brith on January 15, 1999. Imagine! Having to struggle for
the very right to fight back – a right that is constitutionally protected to
begin with!
That was a partial but important victory – announced right on the
Zundelsite.
As fate would have it, Madame Justice Reed herself heard the first Judicial
Review on March 9, 1999 – and within weeks ruled against Ernst on a
technicality.
To say that we were surprised by that ruling is putting it politely.
(Today, April 14, 1999, Ernst already filed an appeal against that
decision!)
The second judicial review – and the most important one, since it dealt
with questions of jurisdiction and territoriality – was heard by Judge
Evans.
Ernst said that Doug Christie argued brilliantly and that every single
argument that could be made was made. That ruling is still pending –
and may well remain “pending” for god-knows-how-long!
(One wonders if yesterday’s ruling will affect the outcome! Inquiring
minds want to know.)
The remaining three judicial reviews were heard together by Judge
Campbell, starting two days ago (April 12, 1999) and were slated to last three to
five days. I was talking to a friend during the wait, and his comment
was a very quiet and wistful one: “All Ernst needs is one honest, gutsy
judge. Just one honest, gutsy judge!”
The issues before Judge Campbell were these:
First, was one of the Tribunal members, Reva Esther Devins, biased
against Ernst due to a previously issued, vicious Ontario Human Rights
Commission press release after his 1988 conviction?
Second, should Dr. Alexander Jacob, the defence’s expert witness on
anti-Semitism – who was to offset Dr. Frederick Schweitzer, the
government’s pro-Jewish, anti-Christian expert – have been disqualified
because he happened to be politically incorrect? and
Third – and most importantly and most ironically ! – ***Should Truth be
allowed as a defense in a case involving truth in history***?
On Monday morning, the judge came in and made short shrift. It was
clear that he had studied all the Zundel documents and arguments, as well as
huge volumes supplied by the Jewish side, which included all of
Schweitzer’s testimony, among many other documents.
It was very clear that this judge was informed and saw the picture
clearly.
He let it be known that he had neither time nor patience with
twiddle-twaddle.
He said that it appeared to him that Ernst had every right to feel
apprehension that Reva Esther Devins could hold a bias against him. If
there was evidence to be submitted by the prosecution to show this was
not true, then he would like to see it. Now!
It turned out there was none.
This scene has been described to me as dramatic. There stood the
opposition’s “Bambi”, a demure lady lawyer for the Simon Wiesenthal
Center who was chosen to take all the flak but didn’t look “Chosen” at all –
with all the boastful Jewish lawyers sitting there, as quiet as mice, and
letting her take all the heat. Gone was the previous arrogance!
The judge said sharply that what he had before him were Ernst Z|ndel’s
sworn affidavits – uncontradicted by any other evidence. He told her that
he had to rule on the facts and nothing but the facts – not on innuendo,
verbally supplied today. He actually wagged his finger at the Simon
Wiesenthal Centre representative, cautioning her on how far she could go
with her allusions.
In the end, Judge Campbell’s ruling was that Devins had no business being a
Tribunal member – that there was an apprehension of bias, as Ernst had
said all along.
Judge Campbell further ruled that since Devins had been a party to the
rulings disqualifying Dr. Jacob as an expert witness, as well as the
notorious “. . . truth is no defense” ruling, that in and of itself
***invalidated those rulings as well***.
********** It bears repeating: Ernst Zundel was right all along! He won
all three judicial reviews in record speed, which completely stunned the
opposition – and in the process got some extremely interesting and
important statements about the totally unprofessional behavior and
practices of the Ontario Human Rights Commission (of which Ms. Devins was
for years a Commissioner herself) into the transcript as a bonus!
********** Judge Campbell’s ruling means that every single previous
Tribunal ruling can – and will, for all those who know Ernst Zundel! – be
challenged in subsequent judicial reviews if needed! The “Human Rights”
Quagmire has only just begun! I guarantee that it will stink to high
heaven!
********** It means that bushels full of documents culled and compiled in
months of research will be submitted in subsequent Human Rights Tribunal
hearings and regular courts PROVING the Holocaust as a criminal scheme
and blackmail racket! Important facts about the Holocaust Enforcer tactics
will get into the Canadian court transcripts – which has been Ernst’s
aim all along.
********** It also means that Mr. Pensa, the Lone but Well-Connected
Liberal, friend of premiers and prime ministers, will have to bear the full
burden of responsibility of any decisions yet to be made. This will not be
a pleasant role for one man to be in! Mr. Pensa is a well-known and
prominent lawyer. But the law, as Judge Campbell once more proved,
applies to all in the end.
********** In summary, it means the door is now cast wide open to
un-dreamed-of possibilities! For there are remedies in place in Civil Law
in Canada that can be invoked against judicial officers, if they
knowingly and willingly abuse their powers!
Below please find the document that lays down the ground rules for this
round:
=====
Douglas Christie Barrister, Solicitor and Notary Public
810 Courtney St., Victoria, B.C., Canada VOW 1C4 –
Tel: (250) 385 1022
Fax(250) 479 3294
April 13, 1999
Canadian Human Rights Commission,
344 Slater St., 8th Floor.
Ottawa, Ontario
K1A lE1
Fax: 613-993-3089
Attention: Mr. Reni Duval, Senior Counsel
Re: Citron et al. v. Z|ndel
Dear Mr. Duval,
As a result of Mr. Justice Campbell’s disposition of judicial reviews
T-1411-98, T-1154-98 and T-1155-98, member Reva Esther Devins is now
disqualified and prohibited from sitting in the matter, the ruling on the
admissibility and relevance of truth is quashed, and the ruling on the
qualification of Dr. Alexander Jacob as an expert witness is quashed. In
view of the foregoing, we consider that an adjournment sine die is the
only option for the Tribunal.
We intend to appeal Mr. Justice Campbell’s ruling as to remedy. In our view
the only practical remedy is to quash the proceedings. The situation is
such, as the Supreme Court of Canada held in Universiti du Quebec a
Trois-Rivieres v. Larocque, [1993] 1 S.C.R. 471, that it is impractical to
have the same adjudicative officer rehear the same issues he has already
ruled upon. He cannot sit on appeal from his own rulings. The Court
held:
“The appellant contended that the Superior Court had erred in ordering that
the new arbitration be held before another arbitrator, since there was no
real, objective reason for doubting the impartiality of the mis en cause
arbitrator.
On this point, in my opinion, the appellant did not succeed in establishing
that the Superior Court had erred in the exercise of its discretion so as
to justify intervention by this Court. Though he did not actually say so,
Lebrun J. was probably of the view that there could quite reasonably be
doubt as to the ability of a grievance arbitrator to objectively hear
evidence which he already thought was so lacking in significance as to
declare it irrelevant.”
This applies more so when the decisions Mr. Pensa made previously are
tainted with reasonable apprehension of bias in his association with member
Devins. In our view the law from Newfoundland Telephone Co. Ltd. v.
Board of Commissioners of Public Utilities (1992), 89 D.L.R. (4th) 289(S.C.C.)
and Larocque, supra, is in favor of a disqualification of the entire
panel.
In the circumstances now prevailing, we suggest that the Commission ask
member Claude Pensa to resign as was done in the Mills case or withdraw
the complaints. In our view, this would eliminate the necessity for appeals
of Madame Justice Reed’s decision and that of Mr. Justice Campbell’s.
We consider that an immediate adjournment of the proceedings sine die is
necessary at the present time for the following reasons:
1. If you intend to appeal the decisions of Mr. Justice Campbell, the
Tribunal must be adjourned because member Reva E. Devins cannot sit and
if you hear evidence in her absence an appeal would be moot. Her departure
could not be remedied and the evidence heard in her absence would result
in a mistrial.
2. If you refuse to agree to an adjournment, we intend to challenge Mr.
Pensa by asking him to disqualify himself. For the reasons in Newfoundland
Telephone and Larocque supra, we believe he should have to disqualify
himself for a reasonable apprehension of bias and because he cannot
rehear the same matters upon which he has given a decision.
3. We will seek the suspension of the 10 day rule due to the legal
consequences of the Campbell judgments which were only available today.
4. We give notice that we will be seeking a redetermination on all rulings
in which member Reva E. Devins participated. These are now open to
judicial review, given the results in T-l 154-98 and T-1155-98. Mr. Justice
Campbell’s reasoning makes clear that any decision in which Reva E.Devins
participated ( ie. – T-190-99 regarding bias and T-992-98) is subject to a
successful judicial review. We submit that these should be allowed by
consent with costs or we will claim costs in this and each and every
other judicial review of decisions in which she participated.
We need your views on adjournment by Wednesday by 3:00 PM because we
have to arrange Mr. Mark Weber’s travel from California. In the event you
refuse to consent to an adjournment, and if for any reason the proceedings do
not continue with Mr. Weber’s evidence, we will seek the costs of his
attendance – fees, travel and accommodation – against you.
The ruling limiting Mark Weber’s qualifications and evidence must now be
reopened since truth is now available to us as a defense. The rulings on
the qualifications of Dr. Robert Countess, Dr. Alexander Jacob, Mark Weber,
and Dr. Robert Faurisson are now in essence quashed, and are open to
being judicially reviewed because Ms. Devins participated in all of these. The
results of such judicial reviews are obvious. Either you agree to reopen
these rulings or we will seek judicial review with costs of each.
Given the ruling on truth, we will be moving that Dr. Schweitzer be
recalled for further cross-examination on the truth of matters in the
Zundelsite materials.
Our view is that these proceedings are so tainted by reasonable
apprehension of bias that they cannot be saved. We will not accept any
rulings in which member Reva Esther Devins participated. Those rulings
are nullities. Nor will we accept that Mr. Claude Pensa, sitting alone, is a
tribunal not tainted by bias. it is our position that the proceedings
are irretrievably tainted by reasonable apprehension of bias.
We wish to hear from you, as stated, by 3 PM on Wednesday to avoid the
costs of calling unnecessary witnesses.
Yours truly,
Douglas H. Christie
<end>
Thought for the Day:
“Zundel Wins…Appropriately, on ‘Holocaust Remembrance Day'”!”
By coincidence, another critic of the Holohoax, William Grosvenor,
has his birthday on 14 April….
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On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:15:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Sat, 09 Jan 1999 23:59:21 -0500, ipm <[email protected]> wrote:
>>iwraw wrote:
>>> PROSTITUTION AND TRAFFICKING OF WOMEN OCCURS ALL OVER THE >>> WORLD. IT IS AN ORGANISED CRIME. WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE.
>>> No country/race is more or less culpable. Do not focus on this as an issue
>>> of race. It isn’t just Israel but Thailand,
>>> India,Nepal,USA,Netherlands,Japan….everywhere.
>>> Furthermore,women who are involved in the sex trade should not be punished
>>> for it–that is what you suggest Israel should do?
>>Jews have been prominant in the white slave trade for a long time:
>>”The Jews in this particular sphere of activity far outnumbered all the other
>>’dealers’…The Jewish trafficker in women is the most terrible of all
>>profiteers of human vice; if the Jew could only be eliminated, the traffic in
>>women would shrink, and would become comparatively insignificant.” (Jewish
>>Chronicle, April 2, 1910).
>>Why do you try to protect criminals? I know, because they are Jews.
>On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:19:03 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Sat, 09 May 1998 04:22:46 GMT, [email protected] (Lenny)
>>wrote:
>>>On Fri, 8 May 1998 18:51:08 -0400, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>On Mon, 4 May 1998, irgun1943 wrote:
>>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>>> I sympathize with people being forced into prostitution.
>>>>> However, your intent is to promote hatred of israel and the Jewish
>>>>> people.
>>>>> No one wants your women. No one needs your women.
>>>>> They come illegally into Israel.
>>>>> Why not whore for the Germans? Ukrainians are good at that.
>>>>> irgun43
>>>> Despite your professed sympathies, the rest of your statements don’t
>>>> stand scrutiny. These women are imported illegaly into Israel because
>>>> there is obviously a demand, market, there for young slavic shikse.
>>>> There would not be the trafficking, if there were no demand.
>>>> “They come illegally …” Well it appears that many arrive quite legally
>>>> on promises/expectations of other work. Others are brought in, imported,
>>>> illegaly.
>>>> Israel is a country in which there are no laws prohibiting the buying
>>>> and selling of human beings as merchandise.
>>>> Also prostitution is legal in Israel, and although brothels are
>>>> illegal, this law seems to be more honoured in the breach.
>>>> The article did not single out Israel, however whereas in other countries
>>>> these things are at least illegal, that doesn’t appear to be the case
>>>> in Israel.
>>> The jews have a long history in slave trading. They financed and
>>>promoted the slavery of the negroes, which is now resulting in the
>>>racial mess we now have in America. *( For info on the jewish
>>>involvement in the negro slave trade go to the following web site
>>>http://www.tiac.net/users/lhl/Jews_and_Slavery.html
>>> Now the jews are turning their hooked noses toward the white Eastern
>>>European women, it is no wonder , these parasites of humanity abused
>>>these people under communism now they abuse them sexually. It is the
>>>nature of these people to destroy, like a parasite destroys it’s host.
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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:20:03 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:15:39 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>http://www.villagevoice.com/ink/news/21friedman.shtml
>>>>The Village Voice
>>>>22May98
>>If the following story is true, why has INTERPOL not done anything??
>>Just because the criminals are JEWS??
>>>The Most Dangerous Mobster in the World
>>>According to the FBI and Israeli Intelligence, Semion Mogilevich Rules
>>>Over an Arms-Trafficking, Money-Laundering, Drug-Running, and
>>>Art-Smuggling ‘Red Mafia’
>>>by Robert I. Friedman
>>>In two posh villas outside the small town of Ricany, near Prague, one
>>>of the most dreaded mob families in the world savagely murders its
>>>terrified victims. The mob’s young enforcers, trained by veterans of
>>>the Afghanistan war, are infamous for their extreme brutality. Their
>>>quarry, usually businessmen who have balked at extortion demands, are
>>>repeatedly stabbed and tortured, then mutilated before they are
>>>butchered. The carnage is so hideous that it has scared the daylights
>>>out of competing crime groups in the area.
>>>The torture chambers are run by what international police officials call
>>>the Red Mafia, a notorious Russian mob family that in onlysix years has
>>>become a nefarious global crime cartel. Based in Budapest, it haskey
>>>centers in New York, Pennsylvania, Southern California, and as far away
>>>as New Zealand.
>>>The enigmatic leader of the Red Mafia is a 52-year-old Ukrainian-born
>>>JEW named Semion Mogilevich. He is a shadowy figure known as the
>>>”Brainy Don”–he holds an economics degree from the University of
>>>Lvov–and until now, he has never been exposed by the media. But the
>>>Voice has obtained hundreds of pages of classified FBI and Israeli
>>>intelligence documents from August 1996, and these documents–as well
>>>as recent interviews with a key criminal associate and with dozens of
>>>law enforcement sources here and abroad–describe him as someone who
>>>has become a grave threat to the stability of Israel and Eastern Europe.
>>>”He’s the most powerful mobster in the world,” crows Monya Elson, who
>>>is listed in classified documents as one of Mogilevich’s closest
>>>associates and partners in prostitution and money laundering rings. The
>>>Brighton Beach-based Elson, who once led a pack of thugs and killers
>>>known as Monya’s Brigada, is currently in the Metropolitan Correctional
>>>Center in lower Manhattan awaiting trial for three murders and numerous
>>>extortions.
>>>In July 1993, after Elson was grievously wounded by rival mobsters in a
>>>bloody shoot-out outside his Brooklyn apartment building, Mogilevich
>>>spirited him out of the country. Mogilevich then set up his Russian
>>>Jewish refugee friend in an alleged massive money-laundering scheme in
>>>Fano, Italy, where he was eventually arrested and extradited back to
>>>America. Elson, an integral part of the Red Mafia, had been one of the
>>>most feared mobsters in Brighton Beach, ground zero for Russian
>>>organized crime in America, which has exploded here following
>>>perestroika.
>>>”If I tell on Mogilevich, Interpol will give me $20 million,” boasted
>>>Elson. ”I lived with him. I’m his partner, don’t forget. We are very,
>>>very close friends. I don’t mean close, I mean very, very close. He’s my
>>>best friend.” Nevertheless, after extensive interviews over the course
>>>of the last six months, Elson ultimately confirmed some of the details
>>>about Mogilevich contained in the classified FBI and Israeli documents.
>>>Allegations of Mogilevich’s devilish array of criminal activities are
>>>extensively detailed in the reports:The FBI and Israeli intelligence
>>>assert that he traffics in nuclear materials, drugs, prostitutes,
>>>precious gems, and stolen art. His contract hit squads operate in the
>>>U.S. and Europe. He controls everything that goes in and out of Moscow’s
>>>Sheremetyevo International Airport, a ”smugglers’ paradise,” says
>>>Elson. Mogilevich bought a bankrupt airline in a former Central Asian
>>>Soviet republic for millions of dollars in cash so he could haul heroin
>>>out of the Golden Triangle. Most worrisome to U.S. authorities is
>>>Mogilevich’s apparently legal purchase of virtually the entire Hungarian
>>>armaments industry, jeopardizing regional security, NATO, and the war
>>>against terrorism.
>>>In one typical criminal deal, Mogilevich and two Moscow-based gangsters
>>>sold $20 million worth of pilfered Warsaw Pact weapons from East
>>>Germany, including ground-to-air missiles and 12 armored troop
>>>carriers, according to the classified Israeli and FBI documents. The
>>>buyer was Iran, says a top-level U.S. Customs official who requested
>>>anonymity.
>>>In another deal, an FBI informant told the bureau that one of
>>>Mogilevich’s chief lieutenants in Los Angeles met two Russians from New
>>>York City with Genovese crime family ties to broker a scheme to dump
>>>American toxic waste in Russia. Mogilevich’s man from L.A. said the Red
>>>Mafia would dispose of the toxic waste in the Chernobyl region,
>>>”probably through payoffs to the decontamination authorities there,”
>>>says a classified FBI report.
>>>Mogilevich is particularly intrigued by art fraud. In early 1993, he
>>>reached an agreement with the leaders of the powerful Solntsevskaya
>>>crime family in Moscow to invest huge sums of money in a joint venture:
>>>acquiring a jewelry business in Moscow and Budapest. The business,
>>>according to classified FBI documents, was to serve as a front for the
>>>acquisition of jewelry, antiques, and art, which the Solntsevskaya mob
>>>had stolen from churches and museums in Russia, including the Hermitage
>>>in St. Petersburg. The gangsters also robbed the homes of art
>>>collectors and even broke into synagogues in Germany and Eastern Europe
>>>to steal rare religious books and Torahs.
>>>Mogilevich’s operation, again in collusion with the Solntsevskaya mob,
>>>also purchased a large jewelry factory in Budapest. Russian antiques,
>>>such as Faberge eggs, are sent to Budapest for ”restoration.”
>>>Mogilevich’s men ship the genuine Faberge eggs to an unwitting
>>>Sotheby’s auction house in London for sale, then send fake Faberge eggs
>>>as well as other ”restored” objects back to Moscow.
>>>MOGILEVICH’S EARLY years are murky. Soviet authorities first learned of
>>>his criminal activities in the 1970s, when he was a member of the
>>>Liubertskaya crime group that operated in the Moscow suburb of the same
>>>name. He was involved in petty thefts and counterfeiting.
>>>But Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the mid
>>>1980s, when tens of thousands of Jewish refugees were hurriedly
>>>immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
>>>assets–rubles, furniture, and art–cheaply, promising to exchange the
>>>goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ”hard”
>>>currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
>>>profits.
>>>In the 1980s, he established a petroleum import-export company, Arbat
>>>International, and registered it in Alderney, one of the Channel
>>>Islands, which is known to be a tax haven. One of his partners–with a
>>>quarter share of the company–was Vyacheslav Ivankov, the legendary
>>>Russian criminal who in March 1992 became Godfather of the Russian mob
>>>in America. Ivankov was convicted in 1996 of extorting two Russian-born
>>>Wall Street stockbrokers. He now resides in Raybrook, a Federal prison
>>>in upstate New York.
>>>In early 1990, Mogilevich fled Moscow, as did many other dons, to avoid
>>>the gangland wars that were then roiling the capital. Mogilevich and his
>>>top henchmen settled in Israel, where they received Israeli
>>>citizenship. He ”succeeded in building a bridgehead in Israel” and
>>>”developing significant and influential [political] ties,” says an
>>>Israeli intelligence report.
>>>Mogilevich is married to a Hungarian national, Katalin Papp. That
>>>marriage allowed him to legally emigrate to Budapest, Hungary, in 1991,
>>>where he began to build the foundations of his global criminal empire.
>>>He bought a string of nightclubs in Prague, Riga, and Kiev–called the
>>>”Black and White Clubs”–that has become one of the world’s foremost
>>>centers of prostitution. Monya Elson is a partner in the clubs,
>>>according to his own admission and classified FBI documents. The Black
>>>and White Club in Budapest became the hub of Mogilevich’s operations. He
>>>quickly built a highly structured criminal organization, in the mode of
>>>a traditional American mafia family. Indeed, many of the organization’s
>>>250 members are his relatives.
>>>To the consternation of international law enforcement officials,
>>>Mogilevich began to legally purchase much of Hungary’s arms industry.
>>>The legitimate companies he bought include:
>>>-Magnex 2000: a giant magnet manufacturer.
>>>-Digep General Machine Works: an artillery shell, mortar, and fire
>>>equipment manufacturer, which was financed by a $3.8 million loan from
>>>the London branch of Banque Francaise De L’orean.
>>>-Army Co-op: a mortar and anti-aircraft gun factory. Army Co-op was
>>>established in 1991 by two Hungarian nationals, both in the local arms
>>>industry, who were looking for a partner. Mogilevich has bought 95 per
>>>cent of Army Co-op through another Channel Island holding company,
>>>Arigon, Ltd., and also deals extensively with the Ukraine, selling oil
>>>products to the Ukrainian railway administration.
>>>These transactions enabled the Mogilevich organization to become a
>>>direct owner of the Hungarian armaments industry. In 1994, he purchased
>>>a license enabling him to buy and sell weapons. Now a legitimate
>>>armaments manufacturer, one of his companies participated in at least
>>>one arms exhibition in the U.S., where it displayed mortars modified by
>>>Israel.
>>>Like mob bosses everywhere, Mogilevich couldn’t sustain his empire
>>>without the help of corrupt police and politicians. There is one
>>>documented example of a criminal associate of Mogilevich mingling with
>>>American politicians. In March 1994, Vahtang Ubiriya, one of
>>>Mogilevich’s top lieutenants, was photographed by the FBI at a tony
>>>Republican Party fundraiser in Dallas, says an FBI report. Ubiriya, a
>>>high-ranking official in the Ukrainian railway administration, has a
>>>prior conviction for bribery in the Ukraine.
>>>In Europe and Russia, the ”corruption of police and public officials
>>>has been part of the Semion Mogilevich Organization’s modus operandi,”
>>>says a classified FBI document. ”The corruptive influence of the
>>>Mogilevich organization apparently extends to the Russian security
>>>system. During 1995, two colonels from Department of the Russian
>>>Presidential Security Service . . . traveled to Hungary under commercia
>>>cover to meet with Mogilevich . . . seeking information for use in the
>>>Russian political campaign.” An Israeli associate of Mogilevich met
>>>with the two colonels and provided intelligence. Mogilevich also paid
>>>off a Russian judge to secure Vyacheslav Ivankov’s early release from a
>>>Siberian prison, where he was doing hard time for robbery and torture,
>>>according to U.S. court records and classified FBI documents.
>>>On April 28, the German national television network ZDF reported that
>>>the BND (the German intelligence agency) had entered into a secret
>>>contract with Mogilevich to provide information on the Russian mob.
>>>The charges were made by several sources, including Pierre Delilez, a
>>>highly regarded Belgium police investigator who specializes in Russian
>>>Organized Crime. Because of this deal with the BND, police in Belgium,
>>>Germany, and Austria have complained that it is now impossible to
>>>investigate the ”Brainy Don.” If the television report is accurate,
>>>one possible motive for BND’s deal, says a U.S. law enforcement expert
>>>on the Russian mob, is that the Germans recently ”pulled their people
>>>out of Moscow because they didn’t like the level of cooperation they
>>>were getting from the Russian authorities on the Russian mob.”
>>>Gangsters, said this source, often talk to intelligence agencies about
>>>their rivals.
>>>MOGILEVICH’S MAIN activity in the U.S. appears to be money laundering,
>>>says a classified FBI report. He has set up companies in Los
>>>Angeles–FNJ Trade Management–and Newton, Pennsylvania–YBM Magnex
>>>International–as well as dozens of shell companies, which have
>>>received more than $30 million from Arigon, Ltd., the center of
>>>Mogilevich’s financial operations.
>>>Last Friday, U.S. Attorney Robert Courtney, head of the organized-crime
>>>strike force, led a a joint FBI, IRS, INS, and Customs raid of YBM’s
>>>offices in Newton. Cartons of documents were seized, with Canadian and
>>>U.S. police citing the company’s alleged ties to Russian organized
>>>crime. YBM is publicly traded on the Toronto Stock Exchange, and two
>>>days before Friday’s raid, trading in its stock was suspended by
>>>Canadian authorities.
>>>The president and CEO of YBM is Jacob Bogatin, a professor of physical
>>>metallurgy. In May 1996, he contacted the FBI in Philadelphia to find
>>>out why the INS had denied visas to YBM employees arriving from Hungary
>>>and the Ukraine. When he was rebuffed, he had intermediaries step
>>>forward and pester the FBI. The State Department has banned Mogilevich
>>>himself from obtaining a U.S. visa because he’s on the department’s
>>>watch list of international organized-crime figures. Nevertheless, he
>>>has surreptitiously entered America under aliases and on visitor visas
>>>issued in Tel Aviv to visit Elson and Ivankov.
>>>Bogatin admitted during a telephone interview that Mogilevich owns his
>>>company. When asked if he knew that numerous law enforcement agencies
>>>here and abroad considered Mogilevich to be a leader of one of the most
>>>ruthless organized-crime families in recent times, Bogatin replied,
>>>”We have an investors relations guy. You want to talk with him about
>>>this stuff.” He added that he had read allegations in the Eastern
>>>European press that his boss was a Mafia don, but didn’t believe them.
>>>YBM vehemently denies that it is connected to Russian organized crime or
>>>has engaged in any criminal activities.
>>>Bogatin is no stranger to the mob, however. His brother, David, a top
>>>Russian crime figure who once served in North Vietnam for the Soviets in
>>>an anti-aircraft unit, is now serving an eight-year term in a New York
>>>State prison for a multimillion-dollar gasoline tax fraud scheme. Just
>>>prior to trial, he had jumped bail, fleeing to Poland. There he set up
>>>the first commercial banks, which moved vast sums of money controlled
>>>by Russian wiseguys. (This after handing over his mortgages for five
>>>pricey Trump Tower apartments to a Genovese associate. The mortgages
>>>were liquidated and the funds were moved through a mafia-controlled
>>>bank in Chelsea.) Eventually he was caught and returned to the U.S. In
>>>the meantime, he lived like royalty in a five-star Viennese hotel,
>>>surrounded by a praetorian guard of 125 Polish parachutists, some of
>>>them bedecked in shiny gold uniforms.
>>>Mogilevich has not refrained from associating with known killers in
>>>America, prime among them Elson and Ivankov. A confidential informant
>>>told the FBI that Vladimir Berkovich, an L.A. resident, is a chief
>>>lieutenant in Mogilevich’s organization and has arranged contract
>>>killings here, supplying the weapons and spiriting the killers out of
>>>the country. The visas, says the report, were obtained through the Palm
>>>Terrace restaurant, a watering hole for Russian gangsters, which
>>>Berkovich owns. Berkovich told the Voice that he is aware of the
>>>government’s charges, and that they are ”total bullshit.” Although he
>>>has no criminal record in the U.S., Berkovich’s son, Oleg, was convicted
>>>in Los Angeles of solicitation to commit murder on October 11, 1989. He
>>>was sentenced to four years. Oleg’s business card identified his
>>>employer as Magnex, Ltd., a company owned by Mogilevich in Budapest.
>>>Oleg was recently arrested in Hungary on unspecified charges but was
>>>released.
>>>Oleg’s uncle, the colorful Lazar Berkovich, whose last known address was
>>>New York City, arrived in the Big Apple after having survived a
>>>shootout with Italian gangsters, says his brother Vladimir. The FBI
>>>report claims that Lazar was head of Russian criminal activities in
>>>Italy prior to his coming to America to recuperate from his wounds,
>>>though Vladimir Bercovich denies that Lazar was ever connected to the
>>>Russian mob.
>>>Israeli and U.S. law enforcement sources agree that the Red Mafia,
>>>though in existence for a mere six years, has become one of the most
>>>formidable Russian organized-crime families in the world. Strongest in
>>>the Ukraine, Hungary, the Czech Republic, and the U.S., Mogilevich has
>>>increased his strength by forging ties with other powerful Russian mob
>>>groups as well as with the Italian Camorra. His reported ties to the
>>>German BND and ex-police officers in Hungary keep him informed of police
>>>efforts to penetrate his organization. ”He also ingratiates himself
>>>with the police by providing information on other [Russian crime]
>>>groups’ activities, thus appearing to be a cooperative good citizen,”
>>>says a classfied FBI report. This, along with his strong leadership
>>>qualities, his acute financial skills, his talented and highly educated
>>>associates, and his use of cutting-edge technology, has so far made
>>>the ”Brainy Don” impervious to prosecution.
>>>This document last modified Friday, May 22, 1998, 10:31 AM EDT.
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>Switzerland in the Grip of the ‘Traditional Enemy’
>by Bernhard Schaub
>Our country is today involved in the greatest foreign policy
>crisis since the Second World War. It faces a powerful enemy who,
>paradoxically, hardly anyone dares to name because in the western
>world he enjoys a kind of state protection, and because he
>portrays itself in the image of the eternally persecuted. In this
>situation, the blackmailer has been able to appear as the poor,
>persecuted victim, and to take advantage of most people’s good
>nature and sense of fair play.
>How could it have come to this? To recapitulate a few things: In
>1991 the Swiss confederation celebrated its 700th anniversary. On
>this occasion there appeared in the year book (Jahrbuch) of
>Migros, Switzerland’s largest chain store, an interview with
>labor union secretary Ruth Dreifuss. At the time this Jewish
>woman, and a former Zionist youth movement member, was not very
>well known. In this interview she expressed herself with
>disarming openness about our country’s future. She said that, as
>far as she was concerned, it is not important whether Switzerland
>survives as a sovereign country, but that, in any case, she
>certainly wishes to see Switzerland as a colorful country, that
>is of people of mixed race with many mixed marriages. A short
>time later Dreifuss was appointed, under unusual circumstances,
>to a high-level post on the governing Federal Council
>(Bundesrat).
>
>Then came a bustle of activity, most notably the introduction of
>a so-called anti-racism law, which makes it a crime to “deny or
>whitewash the genocide,” and a campaign to encourage guilt
>feelings among the Swiss regarding their role during the Second
>World War.
>It should be kept in mind that Switzerland stayed out of the
>conflict as a neutral country, even though during the war years
>it was completely surrounded by Axis countries. For this small
>mountainous country without natural resources, import and export
>is a matter of survival — and naturally this was true during the
>war as well. Among the goods routinely traded were military
>supplies and gold. Everywhere this has always been the case, and
>it’s not likely to change much in the future. There was no reason
>under international law why Switzerland should have stopped its
>trade with the Third Reich.
>As it had in earlier times of war, Switzerland once again took
>seriously its role as a humanitarian country. The International
>Committee of the Red Cross, headquartered in Geneva, was very
>active everywhere it was permitted to operate. Some 300,000
>refugees were given shelter in Switzerland, of whom almost 30,000
>were Jews. By percentage of population this was far more than any
>other country.
>But let us return to Federal Council member Dreifuss. She and her
>Social Democratic Party, with the help of the largely cooperative
>or coordinated media, did not tire of maligning Switzerland. At
>the same time, and parallel with this, Jewish circles in the
>United States began a massive campaign of accusations against
>Switzerland, with fantastic demands for money. At this same time,
>a Jewish woman, May Kunin, was coincidentally named as the US
>ambassador to Switzerland. International Jewish community leaders
>Edgar Bronfman, Israel Singer and Avraham Burg joined in,
>increasing the pressure on Switzerland to such an extent that
>Federal Council president Jean-Pascal Delamuraz spoke of a
>campaign of “blackmail,” and the Swiss ambassador in the United
>States, Carlo Jagmetti, even referred, in a confidential paper,
>to this as a “war.” (Jagmetti promptly resigned, and Delamuraz
>was condemned to silence.)
>Even though some resistance to this campaign has been developing
>around the out-spoken businessman and parliamentary deputy
>Christoph Blocher, these recent developments suggest that very
>probably Switzerland will submit to the pressure and pay up.
>How was all this possible? The reason is quite simple. All
>discussions of this matter are based on two axiomatic premises,
>and an associated conclusion:
>First, the Third Reich gassed six million Jews,
>Second, so many people can’t be killed without the neighboring
>countries taking notice, and
>Third, therefore the Swiss must have known and thereby are also
>co-guilty.
>While a number of revisionist historians have effectively
>discredited the first premise, recently two prominent Swiss
>historians of contemporary history have specifically repudiated
>the conclusion: Prof. J. R. Salis and Prof. E. Bonjour confirm
>that knowledgeable Swiss authorities had no solid evidence of any
>mass extermination before the end of the war (Recht und Freiheit,
>Oct. 2, 1995; Thurgauer Zeitung, June 2, 1997). [See also: Arthur
>R. Butz, “Context and Perspective in the ‘Holocaust’
>Controversy,” The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1982, pp.
>371-405.]
>But to say such a thing can bring a thinking person into trouble
>with the law: if the third sentence is not correct, the first or
>second premise must not be true. The second cannot be doubted
>because it corresponds with basic common sense. Logically the
>Allied secret services would have promptly learned of mass
>gassings, and the Allied political leaders certainly would not
>have ignored such an opportunity for propaganda against Germany.
>Therefore the first premise must be dubious. But that’s something
>no one dares to think because it’s not permitted. As a result,
>Frau Dreifuss can claim with no fear of contradiction that
>Switzerland’s wartime Federal Council “knew that Jews were being
>annihilated” (Nouveau Quotidien, May 9, 1995). Hardly anyone
>dares seriously to contradict this, much less to make the
>revisionist argument in a forceful way.
>In this catastrophic situation, which points up Switzerland’s
>laughable and humiliating subordination to world Jewry, the
>question arises: why now, more than half a century after the
>events in question?
>In answering this question, it should be stressed that this
>campaign is concerned with something quite different than
>historical justice. Accordingly, the accusations are not made
>against specific individuals or institutions, but rather involve
>a propaganda campaign against an entire country. Moreover, it
>should be noted, the accusations are not made by a foreign
>country or government, but rather entirely by individual persons
>and private institutions (especially the World Jewish Congress),
>which, under international law, our federal government is under
>no obligation even to answer. To the contrary, the Swiss
>government would be justified in formally calling on Washington
>to curtail the impertinent Senator Alphonse D’Amato. But nothing
>like that is happening.
>If it’s not historical justice that our adversaries are concerned
>about, what is it?
>Switzerland is in some ways a troublesome country. It is the
>world’s only direct democracy, which means that our government
>must submit every major decision or policy to a referendum of the
>people. This is what Swiss people understand by freedom, and why
>the half-historical, half-mystical figure of Wilhelm Tell is a
>national symbol.
>Switzerland is also a neutral country, a status rooted in an
>ancient conception of self that goes back to the sacred national
>figure Niklaus von Fl3e. In the 15th century this mystic gave
>this piece of advice to his warlike Swiss compatriots: “Don’t
>involve yourself in foreign affairs. But if someone attacks you,
>defend yourselves bravely.” Since that time the idea of armed
>neutrality has been a basic Swiss principle.
>These two basic principles of the Swiss Confederation help
>explain why Switzerland has not joined any international
>organizations. The Swiss have rejected membership in the United
>Nations organization, NATO, and the European Union because they
>fear a loss of sovereignty and do not want to send their men to
>war on behalf of foreign powers. At the same time no one can
>accuse Switzerland of narrow-minded nationalism. Alongside the
>majority German-speaking population, people of French and Italian
>culture live here unthreatened and with complete equal rights. It
>is no wonder that prominent thinkers and influential statesman
>time and again have cited Switzerland as a model for European
>unification. Recently, for example, the deputy chairman of the
>CDU/CSU faction in the German Bundestag, Heiner Geissler, said:
>”Switzerland is a prototype for what the European Union should
>look like politically” (Br3ckenbauer, March 5, 1997).
>It seem paradoxical, but therein lays the deeper reason for the
>on-going campaign against Switzerland: it is a fight against the
>Swiss idea. And one must remember that this idea is based on a
>very solid foundation. Our country may be geographically small,
>but it is the seventh most important industrial country in
>Europe, and one of the world’s most important financial centers.
>If such a country defies what is called the “New World Order,”
>then in spite of its apparent small size it is a factor of
>intellectual and economic importance to be taken seriously in the
>calculation of the “one worlders.”
>This “New World Order” is not to be directly democratic, nor will
>it respect developed cultures. To the contrary, it will be, as
>Winston Churchill once warned, “an authoritarian, almighty world
>order” (Speeches of Winston Churchill, New York, 1974). As the
>founder of the Paneuropa Union, Count Richard N.
>Coudenhove-Kalergi, spelled out in his book, Praktischer
>Idealismus (“Practical Idealism”; Vienna/Leipzig, 1925), its
>population will consist of a “Eurasian-Negroid mixed race.”
>This “one world” will also require a common spiritual foundation,
>a religious basis. According to an official of the Canadian B’nai
>B’rith organization, Ian J. Kagedan, this will be the Holocaust
>faith (Toronto Star, Nov. 26, 1991). It is characteristic that
>the term for the alleged mass gassing of Jews is a Greek word
>that comes from the language of the ancient religions.
>Thus, this truly “New World Order” will be: one world, with one
>government, one (mixed) race, ruled by one “chosen” people, one
>god (Yahweh), and one cult — the Holocaust.
>The Switzerland idea is the antithesis of this, and therefore
>must be destroyed. To accomplish this, bombs are not necessary.
>It will suffice to discredit the Swiss idea in the world, and
>among the Swiss themselves — to disparage it so that people will
>reject it and turn to the arms of the “New World Order.”
>To morally destroy an adversary, nothing works better than to
>accuse him of complicity with the Third Reich. This task was
>taken up by Senator D’Amato as the instrument of the New York
>Zionists. Today the same tried and true method is being used
>against Switzerland that for years has successfully worked
>against Germany. Accusations without basis are made according to
>the notion that people are more inclined to accept a big lie than
>a small one. At the same time the claim is made that these
>accusations can be proven with countless documents. Eventually
>the public begins to believe that such documents actually exist
>because newspapers, radio and television all say so. In this
>campaign, the largest circulation magazines of our country even
>use doctored photographs (as the conservative middle class
>opposition periodical Schweizerzeit recently revealed [March 7,
>1997]).
>The most diverse accusations are made in this masterful campaign
>of deliberate confusion, so that the hapless media consumer has
>no idea what the real situation is. The goal here is not to
>honestly inform the people, but rather to confuse the public in a
>fog of guilt feelings.
>Let’s take a look at the most important of the accusations. The
>most serious is that Swiss banks have kept for themselves
>enormous sums of money deposited by Jews, instead of turning over
>this money to the rightful heirs. American Jews speak of 30
>billion Swiss Francs. There is also talk of hoarding stolen art
>treasures, of laundering gold to the advantage of the Third
>Reich, and from time to time there’s mention of the infamous gold
>teeth of gassed Jews.
>The Swiss are also accused of welcoming too few Jewish refugees
>during the war, thereby condemning tens of thousand of Jews to
>”certain death”. Swiss Jews who gave support to Jewish refugees
>in Switzerland during the war are now suddenly demanding that the
>Swiss government compensate them for their expenditures. And,
>predictably, the Gypsies are now also speaking up and demanding
>money as well.
>This entire absurd comedy might be simply laughed off if one did
>not understand that our contemporaries have been thoroughly
>impregnated with the Holocaust religion. As a result, even
>patriotic groups in Switzerland argue that we should attempt to
>discredit these accusations rather than turn the tables around
>and come to grips with the fundamental issues of contemporary
>history.
>The commission of historians set up by the Swiss government
>therefore should not merely investigate our trade and refugee
>policy during the war, but, more to the point, deal with the
>question of the supposed destruction of the Jews. In this regard
>they could cite the statement by the Freiburg historian Ulrich
>Herbert, who recently said: “Historians have so far only
>interpreted the Holocaust. The task now is to investigate it”
>(Frankfurter Rundschau, Feb. 13, 1997).
>It is high time to transform this conflict from one of morally
>vulnerable sentiment to one of intelligent, clear-headed
>analysis. For the time being this may be little more than a
>lonely call in the desert. One is also justified in fearing legal
>repercussions for reaching conclusions in this controversial
>subject different than the officially permitted ones. By the same
>token no one dares to shed light on the dark history of Zionism,
>and thereby to go on the counterattack.
>Meanwhile, bowing to “international” pressure, Swiss banks and
>businesses have established a fund of 150 Million Swiss francs to
>help Holocaust victims. This was done even though originally
>everyone was supposed to wait for the release (in the summer of
>1997) of the report of the already-mentioned historians’
>commission. But in the meantime New York and world Jewry were
>threatening a boycott of Swiss financial institutions, and this
>is something the Swiss banks could not dare risk. They much
>preferred to pay something right away. A short time later the
>Swiss Federal Council decided to establish a “solidarity
>foundation,” based on our gold reserves with a starting capital
>of seven billion.
>On the other side of the Atlantic, Senator D’Amato triumphantly
>spoke of a “admission or acknowledgment of guilt.” This is
>reminiscent of the dictated Versailles treaty of 1919, whereby
>Germany was obliged to sign a guilt clause or face military
>occupation. Switzerland is today experiencing its own Versailles
>Diktat. It is being forced to pay reparations, and one day it may
>likewise endure its own Nuremburg. At a press conference last
>last year, Jewish attorney Edward D. Fagan stated: “Germany was
>brought to court in Nuremburg, and Switzerland will be brought to
>court in Brooklyn” (Tagesanzeiger, Nov. 29, 1996.)
>This campaign is by no means finished. Its goal will be reached
>only when little Switzerland and all of Europe are finally forced
>into submission.
>– March 12, 1997
>Bernhard Schaub, was born in 1954 in Bern, Switzerland. He taught
>history and German at a private school in Zurich until January
>1993, when he was fired without notice. This termination was a
>consequence of his 1992 book, Adler und Rose, on the history of
>German-speaking Central Europe. Because passages in this book
>call wartime “gassings” into question, the author was subjected
>to media smears. Since January 1993 he has worked as an
>independent teacher of adult education courses. He is the father
>of two daughters. (Adler und Rose is available from: Postfach
>386, 8105 Regensdorf, Switzerland.)
>This article is taken from The Journal for Historical Review, PO
>Box 2739, Newport Beach, CA 92659, USA. Subscriptions to the
>Journal are $40 per year (6 issues). The IHR website is at
><http://www.ihr.org>
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On Sun, 17 Aug 1997 11:04:59 -0500, “Shabati..Zvi Äbuishneineh”
<[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected]., new wrote:
>> Investigators reportedly have opened several graves of Yemenite Jewish
>> babies and found them to be empty – a discovery that might support
>> claims that Yemenite children were taken from their parents for adoption
>> decades ago.
>> For years, Yemenite activists have claimed hundreds of babies declared
>> dead were actually given to adoptive parents of European descent. If the
>> claims are true, it could further sour relations between Middle Eastern
>> and European Jews in Israel.
>> The four graves at Tel Aviv’s Givat Shaul cemetery were opened last
>> Wednesday as part of an official investigation, with a rabbi and family
>> members present.
>> Wooden signs over the empty graves bore the names Ruthie Babu, Ruthie
>> Cohen, Reuven Rafaelo and Moshe Mishraki, Israel TV reported Saturday.
>> All were hospitalized when only a few months old. Their parents never
>> saw them again, nor did they see a body or a death certificate.
>> “Now there is no doubt that this was an affair of planned fraud in
>> which funerals were staged and evidence was falsified,” said Ora
>> Shifris, a spokesman for the Yemenite families.
>> Hundreds of children disappeared during the mass immigration of Yemenite
>> Jews in the early 1950s, when the immigrants were housed in tent camps.
>> Camp officials and medical staff denied any wrongdoing, saying there was
>> chaos in the camps, where many babies were sickly and died.
>> Two other commissions have investigated the affair, but many families
>> dismissed their inconclusive findings.
>> In 1994, radical Yemenite activist Uzi Meshulam and a group of armed
>> followers barricaded themselves in a house in Tel Aviv for six weeks to
>> press demands for a new inquiry. One of the followers was killed in a
>> shootout with police, and Meshulam is serving a 6 1/2-year prison term.
>> But the confrontation created a furor that led to the current
>> commission, which has subpoena powers.
>> Israel’s 4.7 million Jews are roughly evenly divided between those of
>> Middle Eastern and European descent, but the latter have always been
>> dominant economically and socially.
>Mr. Jafar.
>1. The number of children exceeded the thousands, not hundreds.
>2. Most of the low Paige and menial jobs are given to Arab Jews.
>3. For economic reasons, most of the prostitutes in Israel are underage
>Yemenites (and now Russian) Jewish little girls.
>4. Rejecting the blood of the African Jews (the Falasha) is just on of
>the facet of the fascist Zionist life. The Falasha Jews are prohibited
>from performing marriages and funeral. Only Aryan Jews are allowed to do
>that besides some Arab Jews who had to (convert) to Judaism, the Aryan
>style.
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On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 12:48:57 +1000, “DragonSlayer”
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>Mark Aarons is a Jew and a communist who worked for the Australian
>Broadcasting Service. Most, if not all of his information was based on small
>propaganda booklets produced by the USSR (in English) and distributed by the
>many USSR friendship societies and the communist party of Australia. All
>have been found to be fabrications. One well known one identified a person
>who supposedly was a “callaborator” during 1943. However, this particular
>person, on investigation, was found to have been born in 1946!
>
>This was common in those propaganda booklets. His reputation has been as a
>fabricator and a mouth-piece for the former USSR. He has no credibility and
>no longer works for the ABC.
It seems that he must either be one of the foul jews, or similar??
This story, documented by a well respected Jewish writer, was carried
in many other newspapers across Canada.
The Zionist murderers are angry that it was written by a Jew, to tell
the TRUTH for a change!!!
On 17 Dec 1998 08:05:54 GMT, “Koshercook” <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Remembering Ukraine’s Unknown Holocaust
>[How the High Jews in the Soviet Government Killed Millions in the USSR and
>Still Hide It From Us…]
>Archived for Scholarly Study
>From the Toronto Sun – December 13, 1998
>By ERIC MARGOLIS Contributing Foreign Editor
>As Britain’s socialist government cleared the way for a gaudy show trial of
>that Great Satan of the left, Chile’s Gen. Augusto Pinochet, the 65th
>anniversary of this century’s bloodiest crime was utterly ignored. Leftists
>now baying for Pinochet’s head don’t want to be reminded of the Unknown
>Holocaust.
>In 1932, Soviet leader Josef Stalin unleashed genocide in Ukraine. Stalin
>determined to force Ukraine’s millions of independent farmers – called
>kulaks – into collectivized Soviet agriculture, and to crush Ukraine’s
>growing spirit of nationalism.
>Faced by resistance to collectivization, Stalin unleashed terror and
>dispatched 25,000 fanatical young party militants from Moscow – earlier
>versions of Mao’s Red Guards – to force 10 million Ukrainian peasants into
>collective farms. Secret police units of OGPU began selective executions of
>recalcitrant farmers.
>When Stalin’s red guards failed to make a dent in this immense number, OGPU
>was ordered to begin mass executions.
>But there were simply not enough Chekists (secret police) to kill so many
>people, so Stalin decided to replace bullets with a much cheaper medium of
>death – mass starvation.
>All seed stocks, grain, silage and farm animals were confiscated from
>Ukraine’s farms. (Ethiopia’s Communist dictator Mengistu Haile Mariam used
>the same method in the 1970s to force collectivization: the resulting famine
>cased one million deaths.)
>OGPU agents and Red Army troops sealed all roads and rail lines. Nothing
>came in or out of Ukraine. Farms were searched and looted of food and fuel.
>Ukrainians quickly began to die of hunger, cold and sickness.
>When OGPU failed to meet weekly execution quotas, Stalin sent henchman Lazar
>Kaganovitch to destroy Ukrainian resistance. Kaganovitch, the Soviet
>Eichmann, made quota, shooting 10,000 Ukrainians weekly. Eighty percent of
>all Ukrainian intellectuals were executed. A Ukrainian party member named
>Nikita Khruschchev helped supervise the slaughter.
>During the bitter winter of 1932-33, mass starvation created by Kaganovitch
>and OGPU hit full force. Ukrainians ate their pets, boots and belts, plus
>bark and roots. Some parents even ate infant children.
>The precise number of Ukrainians murdered by Stalin’s custom-made famine and
>Cheka firing squads remains unknown to this day. The KGB’s archives, and
>recent work by Russian historians, show at least seven million died.
>Ukrainian historians put the figure at nine million, or higher. Twenty-five
>percent of Ukraine’s population was exterminated. Millions of victims
>Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot during
>collectivization. Stalin told Winston Churchill he liquidated 10 million
>peasants during the 1930s. Add mass executions by the Cheka in Estonia,
>Latvia and Lithuania; the genocide of three million Muslims in the USSR;
>massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans and Soviet industrial genocide
>accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20 million war
>dead. Kaganovitch and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were Jewish.
Note that this article is written by a well regarded Jewish writer in
Canada!!!
>The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the frightful crimes
>and cruelty inflicted by Stalin’s Cheka on Ukraine, the Baltic states and
>Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame the Jewish people for both
>communism and their suffering.
> As a direct result, during the subsequent
>Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the region’s innocent Jews became the
>target of ferocious revenge by Ukrainians, Balts and Poles.
>While the world is by now fully aware of the destruction of Europe’s Jews by
>the Nazis, the story of the numerically larger holocaust in Ukraine has been
>suppressed, or ignored. Ukraine’s genocide occurred 8-9 years before Hitler
>began the Jewish Holocaust, and was committed, unlike Nazi crimes, before
>the world’s gaze. But Stalin’s murder of millions was simply denied, or
>concealed by a left-wing conspiracy of silence that continues to this day.
>In the strange moral geometry of mass murder, only Nazis are guilty.
>Socialist luminaries like Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sidney Webb and PM
>Edouard Herriot of France, toured Ukraine during 1932-33 and proclaimed
>reports of famine were false. Shaw announced: “I did not see one
>under-nourished person in Russia.” New York Times correspondent Walter
>Duranty, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his Russian reporting, wrote claims of
>famine were “malignant propaganda.” Seven million people were dying around
>them, yet these fools saw nothing. The New York Times has never repudiated
>Duranty’s lies.
>Modern leftists do not care to be reminded their ideological and historical
>roots are entwined with this century’s greatest crime – the inevitable
>result of enforced social engineering and Marxist theology.
>Western historians delicately skirt the sordid fact that the governments of
>Britain, the U.S. and Canada were fully aware of the Ukrainian genocide and
>Stalin’s other monstrous crimes. Yet they eagerly welcomed him as an ally
>during World War II. Stalin, who Franklin Roosevelt called “Uncle Joe,”
>murdered four times more people than Adolf Hitler.
>None of the Soviet mass murderers who committed genocide were ever brought
>to justice. Lazar Kaganovitch died peacefully in Moscow a few years ago,
>still wearing his Order of the Soviet Union, and enjoying a generous state
>pension.
On Fri, 18 Dec 1998 22:47:21 -0800, [email protected] (“Expat
Authority”) wrote:
>I have read some anti-Jewish postings on this NG… I say: stop!
>You know, I think that it is unfair to stereotype! You are saying that all
>Jews are bad, bloodsuckers etc.
>Yes there are people like that among the Jewish community there.
>EA
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# 1 Zionism and the Holocaust
Haim Bresheeth, in RETURN, March 1989
The first point to note regarding the appropriation of the history of the
Holocaust by Zionist propaganda is that Zionism without anti-Semitism is
impossible. Zionism agrees with the basic tenet of anti-Semitism, namely
that Jews cannot live with non-Jews.
The history and roots of the Holocaust go back a long way. While the
industry of death and destruction did not operate before 1942, its roots
were firmly placed in the 19th Century. Jewish aspirations for emancipation
emerged out of the national struggles in Europe. When the hopes for
liberation through bourgeois-democratic change were dashed, other
alternatives for improving the lot of the Jews of Europe achieved
prominence.
The socialist Bund, a mass movement with enormous following, had to contend
with opposition from a new and small, almost insignificant opponent, the
political Zionists. In outline these two offered diametrically opposed
options for Jews in Europe. While the Bund was suggesting joining forces with
the rest of Europe’s workers, the Zionists were proposing a new programme
aimed at ridding Europe of its Jews by setting up some form of a Jewish
state.
Historically, nothing is inevitable, all depends on the balance of forces
involved in the struggle. History can be seen as an option tree: every time
a certain option is chosen, other routes become barred. Because of that
choice, movement backwards to the point before that choice was made is
impossible.
While Zionism as an option was taken by many young Jews, it remained a
minority position until the first days of The Third Reich.
The Zionist Federation of Germany (ZVfD), an organisation representing a
tiny minority of German Jews, was selected by the Nazis as the body to
represent the Jews of the Reich. It was the only flag of an international
organisation allowed to fly in Berlin, and this was the only international
organisation allowed to operate during this period.
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Hide your crimes behind the holohoax!
Date: Monday, 22-Dec-97 06:45 PM
Subject: 6 Indicted in Fraud Over Use of Grants for Hasidic Groups
Excerpt:
The Federal subpoenas are “…remindful of the Holocaust that many in
this community endured decades ago.”
By BENJAMIN WEISER N.Y. Times May 29, 1997 (Metro section only)
NEW YORK — Five members of a Hasidic community in Rockland County and
one in Brooklyn were indicted Wednesday on charges that they
systematically defrauded the federal and state governments of tens of
millions of dollars in student loans, business assistance and housing
subsidies.
In one scheme, according to federal prosecutors, a Talmudic seminary in
Brooklyn was financed almost entirely by federal Pell grants awarded to
ineligible or nonexistent students. The defendants also looted state
student aid programs, Small Business Administration programs and the
federal Section 8 housing program, prosecutors said.
The plans, the authorities said, were used to enrich the defendants but
also to benefit the community institutions of New Square, the Rockland
County village, along with the yeshiva in New Square.
In a broad indictment unsealed Wednesday in Manhattan, the U.S.
attorney’s office depicted a vast scheme by which the six men and others
enrolled thousands of New Square and Brooklyn residents in post-secondary
education programs in Jewish seminaries and Rockland County Community
College in order to fraudulently obtain money through federal Pell
grants, which are awarded to needy post-secondary students.
The indictment said that most of the students were not eligible for the
grants, did not get their degrees and, in some cases, enrolled after
recruiters promised them hundreds of dollars a year. Prosecutors said
that one Brooklyn seminary program fraudulently got $10.3 million in Pell
grants “on behalf of its purported students.”
The government’s investigation has been no secret in the tightly knit
community of about 6,000 in New Square, which consists almost entirely of
Hasidim. News of the indictment drew sharp criticism there Wednesday. A
statement by village representatives contended that the U.S. attorney in
Manhattan, Mary Jo White, had a “vendetta” against New Square residents,
and that federal agents had earlier scared small children there by
serving subpoenas at 6 a.m. “in a manner remindful of the Holocaust that
many in this community endured decades ago.”
Rabbi Mayer Schiller, (1) who said he was a spokesman for the residents,
said he was certain that the accusations would be proven false. “They
have imposed a reign of terror on this entire community,” he said,
referring to the federal prosecutors.”
Ms. White responded by citing an earlier phase of the investigation when,
in 1995, a federal judge held the Yeshiva of New Square in contempt of
court for failing to obey a grand jury subpoena for its bank records and
other documents, which led to a $1 million fine paid by the yeshiva.
“Given the repeated efforts to obstruct the grand jury’s investigation,”
she said, “the response and accusations of unfair treatment are
disheartening, but not surprising.”
The indictment was vague about just how the money was put to use, and
just how much ended up back in the community.
Schiller said that New Square was founded in 1957 by four Holocaust
survivors, including Chaim Berger, one of the defendants named in
Wednesday’s indictment.
The indictment said Berger had been a member of the village’s board of
trustees and the board of the Yeshiva of New Square, and was chairman of
the board of the Brooklyn seminary, Toldos Yakov Yosef, where many of the
New Square and Brooklyn students receiving Pell grants were enrolled.
The indictment asserted that Berger and two other of the seminary’s
administrators, Kalmen Stern and David Goldstein, created a false picture
of the seminary’s programs. The indictment said they falsified resumes,
minutes of the board meetings and reviews of student progress to get
federal money.
The seminary was financed “almost exclusively” by Pell grants awarded to
the school on behalf of its “alleged” students from 1987 to 1993, the
indictment said, but in reality, it added, the school enrolled students
who did not meet the requirements, were not seeking a degree, and did not
take tests or even take part in any actual program of study.
The indictment said that in the early 1980s, Berger and others helped
create a program for “independent Judaic Studies” for New Square students
at Rockland County Community College.
From 1982 to 1988, thousands of students were enrolled, and most got Pell
grants and state tuition aid. The indictment said that many of these
students were also not eligible for aid, and in some cases, did not even
know they were enrolled.
“Some New Square and Brooklyn residents were enrolled in as many as five
different educational institutions, and received Pell Grants for as many
as 10 or more years, without ever receiving any degree or any certificate
reflecting that they had completed a program of study,” the indictment
said.
Besides Berger and Stern, the indictment charged three other New Square
residents, Jacob Elbaum; Berger’s son, Benjamin, and Avrum D. Friesel
who, according to Schiller, is the son of New Square’s mayor. Goldstein,
the sixth defendant, lives in Brooklyn.
None of the defendants or their lawyers could be reached for comment
Wednesday. Gerald Shargel, a lawyer for the Yeshiva of New Square, said
he could not comment on the specifics of the case.
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On Thu, 04 Feb 1999 22:41:43 -0500, “Miecz – S3awomir”
<[email protected]> wrote:
> JEW ATTACKS JEWISH WORLD CONSPIRACY
>Chess champoin Fischer raps ‘Jewish persecutors’.
>By Michael Leidig in Budapest
>http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80
>31. January 1999
>BOBBY FISCHER, the former world chess champion and fugitive from
>American law, has surfaced after years in hiding to deliver an anti-Jewish
>rant on a Hungarian radio station.
>Fischer, who comes from a New York Jewish family, claimed in
>a meandering interview that he was being “persecuted night and day”
>by Jews. He has spent five years flitting around central Europe, using
>Hungary as his base. The former champion is wanted in his homeland
>for unpaid taxes and for breaking sanctions on Yugoslavia in 1992
>when he played a 3 million pounds match there against Boris Spassky.
>Fischer chose Budapest’s Radio Calypso to break his silence. Arranging the
>interview, his agent said there was only one condition: that it be broadcast
>live from a local cafe. To make sure that the station kept its word,
>Fischer, 55, turned up with his own transistor radio so he could check that
>he was appearing live. Speaking in English through an interpreter, he began
>in restrained form, but became so heated about a global Jewish plot that
>the interview was ended in mid-broadcast. Fischer was furious, as were
>listeners in a country that saw 400,000 Jews sent to their deaths in
>the Holocaust.
>Radio Calypso’s switchboard was jammed with complaints for days.
>The chess genius initially talked about his problems with the American
>authorities and then said that he had been travelling in Germany, Italy and
>Austria, but particularly enjoyed Hungary. However, Fischer then switched
>the topic from chess to conspiracy. He said: “I have a nice time. It’s quite
>a fabulous city here. But let’s forget this chitchat. What is going on is
>that I am being persecuted night and day by the Jews.”
>Fischer claimed that his possessions were stolen by a Jewish-backed
>storage depot in Pasadena, California, for alleged non-payment, saying
>the “Goddamn Jews in America have just gone and grabbed it all”.
>He said the property included souvenirs given to him by President
>Nixon and other famous people.
>Ignoring the interviewer’s attempt to change the subject to chess, Fischer
>returned to his anti-Semitic vitriol and claimed that the Holocaust was
>a money-making invention of the Jews. He then flew into a rage when
>the interviewer pointed out that he was said to to be Jewish himself.
>”If you want to go to the little boys’ room we can see who is the Jew,”
>he replied angrily.
>The interview was Fischer’s first public appearance since his match against
>Spassky, apart from a brief sighting at a tournament in Buenos Aires in
>1996. The American easily defeated his Russian rival, despite two decades
>away from professional chess, in what Fischer insisted was the world
>championship, arguing that the title was still his as he had never been
>defeated.
>Fischer went into hiding after the match and lived in Serbia for a year
>before following his teenage girlfriend Zita Raiczanyi, a Hungarian junior
>chess champion, to Budapest at the end of 1993. He has since refused to
>speak to the press unless he is paid a 600,000 pounds fee. One reason for
>his aversion to the media is that his Hungarian girlfriend – his only love – who
>was just 18 when they met ran off with a journalist a year later.
>Fischer learned the rules of chess when he was six and became an
>International Grandmaster nine years later. He won the United States
>Championship eight times in succession and became world champion
>in 1972.
>Fischer vanished from the world stage after a dispute with the international
>chess authorities. During the opening press conference for his 1992 match
>Fischer proudly admitted that he had not paid income taxes since 1976.
>He then held up a letter from the US government warning him that he
>was violating sanctions against Yugoslavia, declared “this is my answer”
>and spat on it.
>Forwarded by: [email protected]
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From: [email protected] (anonymous)
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Subject: Different ZHIDS = Not All Vermin
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>On 6 Feb 1999 19:19:36 GMT,[email protected]
>wanted to comment as follows:
>>On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:08:58 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>> “Miroslav Goldberg” <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Mr. Gornicki,
>>>> Mark Gornicki wrote:
>>>> > Let me start by saying I am not jewish and that I am part polish.
>>>> > I do not speak polish although I would like to try and you may say I
>>>> > have have no right to post here.
>>>> > Why is there so much hate in this newsgroup towards jews ( in the
>>>> > english postings anyway!)?
>>>Mr. Goldberg, you did me puke.
>>>For thousands years were two different Jewish mentality.
>>>One are representing here by mr. Goldberg – that like to speak about innocent
>>>and kindness of other nationalities in time, when they open hate Jewish
>>>people.
>>>nazi pigs with different colors and names. I prefer to see myself among these
>>>guys. We call yourself – Zionists or Jewish warriors
>>>Truth is truth, most of pols (most, but not ALL) in US and Canada come as
>>>immigrants from WWII for hidden nazi collaborate roots. And now these polish
>>>losers with sons and daughters put in NGs in polish and English huge amount of
>>>anti-Semitic garbage as a revenge for defeat in WWII.
>>The garbage from the former JEW student at Simon Fraser University in
>>Canada, Yehuda yeraslavsky is just that, garbage.
>>Now the JEW defames all Polish people, because some are starting to
>>THINK!!
>>The Polish people are remembering about the KATYN massacre, where the
>>Polish officers were murdered by the JEW-led Soviet KGB.
>>The Polish people remember that it was a JEW, DZERZHINSKI who set up
>>the original Soviet secret Police.
>>The Polish people remember that it was the Soviets who occupied,
>>enslaved, and murdered many thousands after WWII.
>>Why shouldn’t the real Polish people remember with unhappy feelings
>>the oppression of Poland by JEWS??
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From: Anonymous <[email protected]>
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Subject: Ukraine Holocaust by ZHIDS!!
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On Fri, 05 Feb 1999 17:24:56 GMT, [email protected]
wrote:
>On Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:33:14 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On 14 Dec 1998 05:44:48, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Subject: THE TORONTO SUN: Remembering Ukraine’s Unknown Holocaust
>>>Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:47:59 +0300
>>>THE TORONTO SUN, Sunday, December 13, 1998
>>>Remembering Ukraine’s Unknown Holocaust
>>>By ERIC MARGOLIS
>>>Contributing Foreign Editor
>>>As Britain’s socialist government cleared the way for a gaudy show
>>>trial of that Great Satan of the left, Chile’s Gen. Augusto Pinochet,
>>>the 65th anniversary of this century’s bloodiest crime was utterly
>>>ignored. Leftists now baying for Pinochet’s head don’t want to be
>>>reminded of the Unknown Holocaust.
>>>In 1932, Soviet leader Josef Stalin unleashed genocide in
>>>Ukraine. Stalin determined to force Ukraine’s millions of independent
>>>farmers – called kulaks – into collectivized Soviet agriculture, and to
>>>crush Ukraine’s growing spirit of nationalism.
>>> Faced by resistance to collectivization, Stalin unleashed
>>>terror and dispatched 25,000 fanatical young party militants from Moscow
>>>- earlier versions of Mao’s Red Guards – to force 10 million Ukrainian
>>>peasants into collective farms. Secret police units of OGPU began
>>>selective executions of recalcitrant farmers.
>>>When Stalin’s red guards failed to make a dent in this immense number,
>>>OGPU was ordered to begin mass executions. But there were simply not
>>>enough Chekists (secret police) to kill so many people, so Stalin
>>>decided to replace bullets with a much cheaper medium of death – mass
>>>starvation.
>>>All seed stocks, grain, silage and farm animals were
>>>confiscated from Ukraine’s farms. (Ethiopia’s Communist dictator
>>>Mengistu Haile Mariam used the same method in the 1970s to force
>>>collectivization: the resulting famine cased one million deaths.)
>>>OGPU agents and Red Army troops sealed all roads and rail
>>>lines. Nothing came in or out of Ukraine. Farms were searched and
>>>looted of food and fuel. Ukrainians quickly began to die of hunger,
>>>cold and sickness.
>>>When OGPU failed to meet weekly execution quotas, Stalin sent
>>>henchman Lazar Kaganovitch to destroy Ukrainian resistance.
>>>Kaganovitch, the Soviet Eichmann, made quota, shooting 10,000
>>>Ukrainians weekly. Eighty percent of all Ukrainian intellectuals were
>>>executed. A Ukrainian party member named Nikita Khruschchev helped
>>>supervise the slaughter.
>>>During the bitter winter of 1932-33, mass starvation created
>>>by Kaganovitch and OGPU hit full force. Ukrainians ate their pets,
>>>boots and belts, plus bark and roots. Some parents even ate infant
>>>children.
>>>The precise number of Ukrainians murdered by Stalin’s
>>>custom-made famine and Cheka firing squads remains unknown to this day.
>>>The KGB’s archives, and recent work by Russian historians, show at
>>>least seven million died. Ukrainian historians put the figure at nine
>>>million, or higher. Twenty-five percent of Ukraine’s population was
>>>exterminated.
>>>Millions of victims
>>>Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot
>>>during collectivization. Stalin told Winston Churchill he liquidated 10
>>>million peasants during the 1930s. Add mass executions by the Cheka in
>>>Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania; the genocide of three million Muslims in
>>>the USSR; massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans and Soviet industrial
>>>genocide accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20
>>>million war dead.
>>>Kaganovitch and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were
>>>Jewish. The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the
>>>frightful crimes and cruelty inflicted by Stalin’s Cheka on Ukraine,
>>>the Baltic states and Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame
>>>the Jewish people for both communism and their suffering.
When even a Jew writer admits the truth, perhaps Christmas is near??
>>>As a direct result, during the subsequent Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the
>>>region’s innocent Jews became the target of ferocious revenge by
>>>Ukrainians, Balts and Poles.
>>>While the world is by now fully aware of the destruction of
>>>Europe’s Jews by the Nazis, the story of the numerically larger
>>>holocaust in Ukraine has been suppressed, or ignored. Ukraine’s
>>>genocide occurred 8-9 years before Hitler began the Jewish Holocaust,
>>>and was committed, unlike Nazi crimes, before the world’s gaze. But
>>>Stalin’s murder of millions was simply denied, or concealed by a
>>>left-wing conspiracy of silence that continues to this day. In the
>>>strange moral geometry of mass murder, only Nazis are guilty.
>>>Socialist luminaries like Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sidney
>>>Webb and PM Edouard Herriot of France, toured Ukraine during 1932-33
>>>and proclaimed reports of famine were false. Shaw announced: “I did not
>>>see one under-nourished person in Russia.” New York Times correspondent
>>>Walter Duranty, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his Russian reporting,
>>>wrote claims of famine were “malignant propaganda.” Seven million
>>>people were dying around them, yet these fools saw nothing. The New
>>>York Times has never repudiated Duranty’s lies.
>>>Modern leftists do not care to be reminded their ideological
>>>and historical roots are entwined with this century’s greatest crime –
>>>the inevitable result of enforced social engineering and Marxist
>>>theology.
>>>Western historians delicately skirt the sordid fact that the
>>>governments of Britain, the U.S. and Canada were fully aware of the
>>>Ukrainian genocide and Stalin’s other monstrous crimes. Yet they
>>>eagerly welcomed him as an ally during World War II. Stalin, who
>>>Franklin Roosevelt called “Uncle Joe,” murdered four times more people
>>>than Adolf Hitler.
>>>None of the Soviet mass murderers who committed genocide were
>>>ever brought to justice. Lazar Kaganovitch died peacefully in Moscow a
>>>few years ago, still wearing his Order of the Soviet Union, and
>>>enjoying a generous state pension.
>>>Eric can be reached by e-mail at: [email protected].
>>>Letters to the editor should be sent to: [email protected].
Reposted compliments of: [email protected]
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From: Anonymous <[email protected]>
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Subject: Why Stalin Killed 20 Million Christians?
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On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 12:48:57 +1000, “DragonSlayer”
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Mark Aarons is a Jew and a communist who worked for the Australian
>Broadcasting Service. Most, if not all of his information was based on small
>propaganda booklets produced by the USSR (in English) and distributed by the
>many USSR friendship societies and the communist party of Australia. All
>have been found to be fabrications. One well known one identified a person
>who supposedly was a “callaborator” during 1943. However, this particular
>person, on investigation, was found to have been born in 1946!
>
>This was common in those propaganda booklets. His reputation has been as a
>fabricator and a mouth-piece for the former USSR. He has no credibility and
>no longer works for the ABC.
It seems that he must either be one of the foul jews, or similar??
This story, documented by a well respected Jewish writer, was carried
in many other newspapers across Canada.
The Zionist murderers are angry that it was written by a Jew, to tell
the TRUTH for a change!!!
On 17 Dec 1998 08:05:54 GMT, “Koshercook” <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Remembering Ukraine’s Unknown Holocaust
>[How the High Jews in the Soviet Government Killed Millions in the USSR and
>Still Hide It From Us…]
>Archived for Scholarly Study
>From the Toronto Sun – December 13, 1998
>By ERIC MARGOLIS Contributing Foreign Editor
>As Britain’s socialist government cleared the way for a gaudy show trial of
>that Great Satan of the left, Chile’s Gen. Augusto Pinochet, the 65th
>anniversary of this century’s bloodiest crime was utterly ignored. Leftists
>now baying for Pinochet’s head don’t want to be reminded of the Unknown
>Holocaust.
>In 1932, Soviet leader Josef Stalin unleashed genocide in Ukraine. Stalin
>determined to force Ukraine’s millions of independent farmers – called
>kulaks – into collectivized Soviet agriculture, and to crush Ukraine’s
>growing spirit of nationalism.
>Faced by resistance to collectivization, Stalin unleashed terror and
>dispatched 25,000 fanatical young party militants from Moscow – earlier
>versions of Mao’s Red Guards – to force 10 million Ukrainian peasants into
>collective farms. Secret police units of OGPU began selective executions of
>recalcitrant farmers.
>When Stalin’s red guards failed to make a dent in this immense number, OGPU
>was ordered to begin mass executions.
>But there were simply not enough Chekists (secret police) to kill so many
>people, so Stalin decided to replace bullets with a much cheaper medium of
>death – mass starvation.
>All seed stocks, grain, silage and farm animals were confiscated from
>Ukraine’s farms. (Ethiopia’s Communist dictator Mengistu Haile Mariam used
>the same method in the 1970s to force collectivization: the resulting famine
>cased one million deaths.)
>OGPU agents and Red Army troops sealed all roads and rail lines. Nothing
>came in or out of Ukraine. Farms were searched and looted of food and fuel.
>Ukrainians quickly began to die of hunger, cold and sickness.
>When OGPU failed to meet weekly execution quotas, Stalin sent henchman Lazar
>Kaganovitch to destroy Ukrainian resistance. Kaganovitch, the Soviet
>Eichmann, made quota, shooting 10,000 Ukrainians weekly. Eighty percent of
>all Ukrainian intellectuals were executed. A Ukrainian party member named
>Nikita Khruschchev helped supervise the slaughter.
>During the bitter winter of 1932-33, mass starvation created by Kaganovitch
>and OGPU hit full force. Ukrainians ate their pets, boots and belts, plus
>bark and roots. Some parents even ate infant children.
>The precise number of Ukrainians murdered by Stalin’s custom-made famine and
>Cheka firing squads remains unknown to this day. The KGB’s archives, and
>recent work by Russian historians, show at least seven million died.
>Ukrainian historians put the figure at nine million, or higher. Twenty-five
>percent of Ukraine’s population was exterminated. Millions of victims
>Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot during
>collectivization. Stalin told Winston Churchill he liquidated 10 million
>peasants during the 1930s. Add mass executions by the Cheka in Estonia,
>Latvia and Lithuania; the genocide of three million Muslims in the USSR;
>massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans and Soviet industrial genocide
>accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20 million war
>dead. Kaganovitch and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were Jewish.
Note that this article is written by a well regarded Jewish writer in
Canada!!!
>The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the frightful crimes
>and cruelty inflicted by Stalin’s Cheka on Ukraine, the Baltic states and
>Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame the Jewish people for both
>communism and their suffering.
> As a direct result, during the subsequent
>Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the region’s innocent Jews became the
>target of ferocious revenge by Ukrainians, Balts and Poles.
>While the world is by now fully aware of the destruction of Europe’s Jews by
>the Nazis, the story of the numerically larger holocaust in Ukraine has been
>suppressed, or ignored. Ukraine’s genocide occurred 8-9 years before Hitler
>began the Jewish Holocaust, and was committed, unlike Nazi crimes, before
>the world’s gaze. But Stalin’s murder of millions was simply denied, or
>concealed by a left-wing conspiracy of silence that continues to this day.
>In the strange moral geometry of mass murder, only Nazis are guilty.
>Socialist luminaries like Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sidney Webb and PM
>Edouard Herriot of France, toured Ukraine during 1932-33 and proclaimed
>reports of famine were false. Shaw announced: “I did not see one
>under-nourished person in Russia.” New York Times correspondent Walter
>Duranty, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his Russian reporting, wrote claims of
>famine were “malignant propaganda.” Seven million people were dying around
>them, yet these fools saw nothing. The New York Times has never repudiated
>Duranty’s lies.
>Modern leftists do not care to be reminded their ideological and historical
>roots are entwined with this century’s greatest crime – the inevitable
>result of enforced social engineering and Marxist theology.
>Western historians delicately skirt the sordid fact that the governments of
>Britain, the U.S. and Canada were fully aware of the Ukrainian genocide and
>Stalin’s other monstrous crimes. Yet they eagerly welcomed him as an ally
>during World War II. Stalin, who Franklin Roosevelt called “Uncle Joe,”
>murdered four times more people than Adolf Hitler.
>None of the Soviet mass murderers who committed genocide were ever brought
>to justice. Lazar Kaganovitch died peacefully in Moscow a few years ago,
>still wearing his Order of the Soviet Union, and enjoying a generous state
>pension.
On Fri, 18 Dec 1998 22:47:21 -0800, [email protected] (“Expat
Authority”) wrote:
>I have read some anti-Jewish postings on this NG… I say: stop!
>You know, I think that it is unfair to stereotype! You are saying that all
>Jews are bad, bloodsuckers etc.
>Yes there are people like that among the Jewish community there.
>EA
>*** Posted from RemarQ – http://www.remarq.com – Discussions Start Here ™ ***
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Subject: HOLOHOAX Document – Part 2
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THIS IS A CROSSFILE
There is one survey of the Jewish question in Europe during
World War Two and the conditions of Germany’s concentration
camps which is almost unique in its honesty and objectivity, the
three-volume Report of the International Committee of the Red
Cross on its Activities during the Second World War, Geneva,
1948. This comprehensive account from an entirely neutral
source incorporated and expanded the findings of two previous
works: Documents sur l’activite’ du CICR en faveur des civils
detenus dans les camps de concentration en Allemagne 1939-1945
(Geneva, 1946), and Inter Arma Caritas: the Work of the ICRC
during the Second World War (Geneva, 1947). the team of authors,
headed by Frederic Siordet, explained in the opening pages of
the Report that their object, in the tradition of the Red Cross,
has been strict political neutrality, and herein lies its great
value.
The ICRC successfully applied the 1929 Geneva military
convention in order to gain access to civilian internees held in
Central and Western Europe by the German authorities. By
contrast, the ICRC was unable to gain any access to the Soviet
Union, which had failed to ratify the Convention. The millions
of civilian and military internees held in the USSR, whose
conditions were known to be by far the worst, were completely
cut off from any international contact or supervision.
The Red Cross Report is of value in that it first clarifies
the legitimate circumstances under which Jews were detained in
concentration camps, i.e. as enemy aliens. In describing the two
categories of civilian internees, the Report distinguishes the
second type as “Civilians deported on administrative grounds (in
German, “Schutzhaftline”), who were arrested for political or
racial motives because their presence was considered a danger to
the State or the occupation forces” (Vol. III, p. 73). These
persons, it continues, “were placed on the same footing as
persons arrested or imprisoned under common law for security
reasons” (p.74).
(Vol. III, p. 78). The ICRC soon established contact
with camp commandants and launched a food relief program which
continued to function until the last months of 1945, letters of
thanks for which came pouring in from Jewish internees.
One of the most important aspects of the Red Cross Report is
that it clarifies the true cause of those deaths that
undoubtedly occurred in the camps toward the end of the war.
Says the Report: “In the chaotic condition of Germany after the
invasion during final months of the war, the camps received no
food supplies at all and starvation claimed an increasing number
of victims. Itself alarmed by this situation, the German
Government at last informed the ICRC on February 1st, 1945. . .
In March 1945, discussions between the President of the ICRC and
General of the S.S. Kaltenbrunner gave even more decisive
results. Relief could henceforth be distributed by the ICRC, and
one delegate was authorized to stay in each camp . . .” (Vol
III, p. 83). Clearly, the German authorities were at pains to
relieve the dire situation as far as they were able. The Red
Cross are quite explicit in stating that food supplies ceased at
this time due to the Allied bombing of German transportation,
and in the interests of interned Jews they had protested on
March 15th, 1944 against “the barbarous aerial warfare of the
Allies” (Inter Arma Caritas, p. 78). By October 2nd, 1944, the
ICRC warned the German Foreign Office of the impending collapse
of the German transportation system, declaring that starvation
conditions for people throughout Germany were becoming
inevitable.
In dealing with this comprehensive, three-volume Report, it
is important to stress that the delegates of the International
Red Cross found no evidence whatever at the camps in Axis-
occupied Europe of a deliberate policy to exterminate the Jews.
In all its 1,600 pages the Report does not even mention such a
thing as a gas chamber. It admits that Jews, like many other
wartime nationalities, suffered rigors and privations, but its
complete silence on the subject of planned extermination is
ample refutation of the Six Million legend. Like the Vatican
representatives with whom they worked, the Red Cross found
itself unable to indulge in the irresponsible charges of
genocide which had become the order of the day.
t(Vol. I, p. 204 ff). Incidentally, it is frequently
claimed that mass executions were carried out in gas chambers
cunningly disguised as shower facilities. Again the Report makes
nonsense of this allegation. “Not only the washing places, but
installations for baths, showers and laundry were inspected by
the delegates. They had often to take action to have fixtures
made less primitive, and to get them repaired and enlarged”
(Vol. III, p. 594).
The complete lack of documentary evidence to support the
existence of an extermination plan has led to the habit of re-
interpreting the documents that do survive. For example, it is
held that a document concerning deportation is not about
deportation at all, but a cunning way of talking about
extermination. Manvell and Frankl state that “various terms were
used to camouflage genocide. These included “Aussiedlung”
(desettlement) and “Abbeforderung” (removal)” (ibid, p. 265).
Thus, as we have seen already, words are no longer assumed to
mean what they say if they prove too inconvenient. This kind
of thing is taken to the most incredible extremes, such as their
interpretation of Heydrich’s directive for labor assignment in
the east. Another example is a reference to Himmler’s order for
sending deportees to the East, “that is, having them killed”
(ibid, p. 251). Reitlinger, equally at a loss for evidence, does
exactly the same, declaring that from the “circumlocutionary”
words of the Wannsee conference it is obvious that “the slow
murder of an entire race was intended” (ibid, p. 98).
A review of the documentary situation is important, because
it reveals the edifice of guesswork and baseless assumptions
upon which the extermination legend is built. The Germans had an
extraordinary propensity for recording everything on paper in
the most careful detail, yet among the thousands of captured
documents of the S.D. and Gestapo, the records of the Reich
Security Head Office, the files of Himmler’s headquarters and
Hitler’s own war directives there is not a single order for the
extermination of Jews or anyone else. It will be seen later that
this has, in fact, been admitted by the World Center of
Contemporary Jewish Documentation at Tel-Aviv. Attempts to find
“veiled allusions” to genocide in speeches like that of
Himmler’s to his S.S. Obergruppenfuhrers at Posen in 1943 are
likewise hopeless. Nuremberg statements extracted after the war,
invariably under duress, are examined in the following chapter.
THIS IS A CROSSFILE
Dr. Faurisson, as is his style, being the careful scholar and
meticulous researcher that he is, a man who is scrupulously honest
with friend and foe alike, will tell you what is known so far.
The chart above was compiled in December 1995 in response to an ad
placed by the Jewish Anti-Defamation League in the New York Times.
This ad asked: What happened to the missing Jews?
That is precisely what Revisionists ask – a question for which they
have been hounded, beaten, spat at, vilified, charged, tried and
jailed and even killed. Why is it “criminal” to want to know why
the numbers are shrinking and shrinking – like a balloon that has
been pricked?
Is it not good news, rather than bad news, that millions didn’t die
at Auschwitz? Is that not reason to rejoice?
Will we ever really know what happened and how many victims there
were? Not if we cannot ask questions!
After an intensive write-in campaign initiated by the Zundel Team
and directed to Mr. Gorbachev a few years ago, the Soviets finally
released the remaining Death Books of Auschwitz, which they had
captured in 1945.
Surprise! Guess what?
The so-called “four million”, revised to “1.5 million,” have shrunk
to 74,000 proven deaths!
All meticulously recorded – name, date, nationality, religion,
time, reason and cause of death!
German researcher Tjudar Rudolf, who is fluent in German, English,
French, Yiddish and Polish and understands most slavic names and
languages, has painstakingly gone over all these Soviet/Auschwitz
death register books and totaled the number of Jewish deaths
according to name and religion – even allowing for slavicized
names.
The end result?
Slightly over 30,000 Jewish dead in Auschwitz.
That is what “Holocaust” Revisionism has achieved!
>From all we know as of today, according to this man’s educated
analysis, some 30,000 Jews thus lost their lives, mainly to
diseases and overcrowding, in Auschwitz and surrounding work camps
affiliated with the main Auschwitz complex.
That is a tragic enough number of people. Why the need to
exaggerate? To justify what? A vicious hate campaign for half a
century against a former enemy? A regime which entered the pages of
history some 50 years ago?
Is that what this is all about?
Or is it not rather to keep the Germans in perpetual mental,
political, economic and financial bondage and to make them
susceptible to ever new, thinly disguised blackmail schemes which
have extorted over 100 Billion DM out of them for the Holocaust
Lobbyists and the members of their tribe, institutions and
organizations – not to forget the State of Israel? Which did not
even exist at the time of the alleged crimes that were supposed to
have been committed by the Nazis?
The ethnic abuse of Germans and Germany must stop. The Holocaust is
not, and never has been, about this touted “Jewish victimhood.” It
is about extortion. Power politics. And money and revenge and hate!
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ZUNDEL VICTORIOUS OVER ZIONISTS!
ZGram – Where Truth is Destiny and Destination
Copyright (c) 1999 – Ingrid A. Rimland
April 13, 1999
Good Morning from the Zundelsite:
Have I got news for you! Ernst Zundel won three out of five judicial
reviews, with one more pending! It’s been some drama in Toronto, and folks
at the Zundel-Haus are flying high tonight! The consequences might well
have shaken the Holocaust Enforcers to their knees!
Here is today’s press release, with much more to come tomorrow. It is too
late to give you an interpretation, but this press release will tell you
the rudiments.
I can tell you that we are happy campers!
Sweet victory:
April 13, 1999
Attention: Assignment Editor
Ernst Z|ndel has won three judicial reviews against decisions of the
Canadian Human Rights Tribunal. The Tribunal is hearing complaints against
Mr. Z|ndel under section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act laid by Sabina
Citron and the Toronto Mayor’s Committee on Community and Race Relations
which allege that he is inciting hatred against Jewish people in the
Internet website, the “Zundelsite.” The site is owned and operated by
Dr. Ingrid Rimland in California, United States.
The rulings, made by Mr. Justice Campbell of the Federal Court of Canada on
April 13, 1999 in Toronto, found that Mr. Z|ndel had a reasonable
apprehension that one of the members of the Human Rights Tribunal, Reva
Esther Devins, a Toronto lawyer, was biased against him. The apprehension
of bias was based on a 1988 press release issued by the Ontario Human
Rights Commission when Ms. Devins sat as a Commissioner. In the press
release, the Ontario Human Rights Commission “applauded” the criminal
conviction of Mr. Z|ndel for spreading false news about the Holocaust in
the publication “Did Six Million Really Die?” and denounced him as a
liar.
Mr. Justice Campbell held that the press release was a gratuitous attack on
Mr. Z|ndel which Mr. Z|ndel was right to believe raised a reasonable
apprehension of bias against him on the part of Reva E. Devins.
The Court also quashed two rulings made by the Human Rights Tribunal with
Ms. Devins’ participation. In these rulings, the Tribunal had held that the
truth of the statements complained of was irrelevant and that Mr. Z|ndel
would be unable to call any evidence to prove truth. In the second ruling,
the Tribunal had refused to qualify Dr. Alexander Jacob as an expert
witness in the history of anti Semitism. The Court held that the
“extraordinary circumstances” of the finding of bias required its intervention.
The rulings throw into doubt the entire proceedings before the Tribunal as
all rulings made are tainted by the participation by Reva E. Devins and
subject to further review by the courts.
Douglas H. Christie, lawyer for Mr. Z|ndel has written to the Canadian
Human Rights Commission, demanding that the complaints be withdrawn.
Mr. Z|ndel says, “The struggle for the Germans to tell their side of the
story of World War II continues. How many millions more will Canadian
governments spend on shoring up the Jewish version of history?”
For further information, call the Zundel-Haus at 416-922-9850
—
“Update on yesterday’s victory”
ZGram – Where Truth is Destiny and Destination
Copyright (c) 1999 – Ingrid A. Rimland
April 14, 1999
Good Morning from the Zundelsite:
No, champagne didn’t flow – since boozing isn’t part of our lifestyle!
But joy ran high, and the severely tested faith in Canada’s justice system
has, at least for now, been partially restored at Zundel Headquarters.
Judge Campbell’s sweeping ruling for our side has thrown the whole obscene
Human Rights Tribunal actions and behavior open to public and judicial
scrutiny!
To recap very briefly:
For two-and-a-half years, Ernst Zundel asked for judicial reviews to have a
real court, staffed by real judges, look at the one-sided and legally
questionable rulings handed down by the Human Rights Tribunal in the, by
now, three-year-old struggle around the Zundelsite.
The idea was to get a court of higher jurisdiction to look at what was
being done by agenda-driven, ideologically motivated quasi-courts called
“Human Rights Commissions” and/or “Tribunals” in Canada.
Ernst and his legal team have fought virtually alone, without support from
the armchair free-speechers, without much media support, with practically
superhuman strength – against all the money and clout of Canada’s
Holocaust Lobby who feared these judicial reviews, as I have said again and again,
like the proverbial devil fears the crucifix.
At the cost of hundreds of thousands of (largely) taxpayers’ dollars to
underwrite the prosecution of Ernst Zundel, every conceivable obstacle,
every deliberate delay and unheard-of rulings by political appointees were
thrown into his path – in the hope that his resolve would weaken, his
strength would give out, and his financial and legal resources be
depleted completely.
At the end of last year and the beginning of this year, the atmosphere in
the Tribunal hearings was so brazenly high-handed, arrogant, brutal and
poisonous that more than one observer described the situation as “satanic.”
By hook or by crook, these hearings were to be the instrument to do him
in – Ernst Zundel was going to be finished!
At the end of January 1999, Ernst finally succeeded in having Judge Reed
declare that he was ***entitled*** to have these five judicial reviews to
be heard – against the strenuous objections of the Canadian Jewish
Congress and B’nai Brith on January 15, 1999. Imagine! Having to struggle for
the very right to fight back – a right that is constitutionally protected to
begin with!
That was a partial but important victory – announced right on the
Zundelsite.
As fate would have it, Madame Justice Reed herself heard the first Judicial
Review on March 9, 1999 – and within weeks ruled against Ernst on a
technicality.
To say that we were surprised by that ruling is putting it politely.
(Today, April 14, 1999, Ernst already filed an appeal against that
decision!)
The second judicial review – and the most important one, since it dealt
with questions of jurisdiction and territoriality – was heard by Judge
Evans.
Ernst said that Doug Christie argued brilliantly and that every single
argument that could be made was made. That ruling is still pending –
and may well remain “pending” for god-knows-how-long!
(One wonders if yesterday’s ruling will affect the outcome! Inquiring
minds want to know.)
The remaining three judicial reviews were heard together by Judge
Campbell, starting two days ago (April 12, 1999) and were slated to last three to
five days. I was talking to a friend during the wait, and his comment
was a very quiet and wistful one: “All Ernst needs is one honest, gutsy
judge. Just one honest, gutsy judge!”
The issues before Judge Campbell were these:
First, was one of the Tribunal members, Reva Esther Devins, biased
against Ernst due to a previously issued, vicious Ontario Human Rights
Commission press release after his 1988 conviction?
Second, should Dr. Alexander Jacob, the defence’s expert witness on
anti-Semitism – who was to offset Dr. Frederick Schweitzer, the
government’s pro-Jewish, anti-Christian expert – have been disqualified
because he happened to be politically incorrect? and
Third – and most importantly and most ironically ! – ***Should Truth be
allowed as a defense in a case involving truth in history***?
On Monday morning, the judge came in and made short shrift. It was
clear that he had studied all the Zundel documents and arguments, as well as
huge volumes supplied by the Jewish side, which included all of
Schweitzer’s testimony, among many other documents.
It was very clear that this judge was informed and saw the picture
clearly.
He let it be known that he had neither time nor patience with
twiddle-twaddle.
He said that it appeared to him that Ernst had every right to feel
apprehension that Reva Esther Devins could hold a bias against him. If
there was evidence to be submitted by the prosecution to show this was
not true, then he would like to see it. Now!
It turned out there was none.
This scene has been described to me as dramatic. There stood the
opposition’s “Bambi”, a demure lady lawyer for the Simon Wiesenthal
Center who was chosen to take all the flak but didn’t look “Chosen” at all –
with all the boastful Jewish lawyers sitting there, as quiet as mice, and
letting her take all the heat. Gone was the previous arrogance!
The judge said sharply that what he had before him were Ernst Z|ndel’s
sworn affidavits – uncontradicted by any other evidence. He told her that
he had to rule on the facts and nothing but the facts – not on innuendo,
verbally supplied today. He actually wagged his finger at the Simon
Wiesenthal Centre representative, cautioning her on how far she could go
with her allusions.
In the end, Judge Campbell’s ruling was that Devins had no business being a
Tribunal member – that there was an apprehension of bias, as Ernst had
said all along.
Judge Campbell further ruled that since Devins had been a party to the
rulings disqualifying Dr. Jacob as an expert witness, as well as the
notorious “. . . truth is no defense” ruling, that in and of itself
***invalidated those rulings as well***.
********** It bears repeating: Ernst Zundel was right all along! He won
all three judicial reviews in record speed, which completely stunned the
opposition – and in the process got some extremely interesting and
important statements about the totally unprofessional behavior and
practices of the Ontario Human Rights Commission (of which Ms. Devins was
for years a Commissioner herself) into the transcript as a bonus!
********** Judge Campbell’s ruling means that every single previous
Tribunal ruling can – and will, for all those who know Ernst Zundel! – be
challenged in subsequent judicial reviews if needed! The “Human Rights”
Quagmire has only just begun! I guarantee that it will stink to high
heaven!
********** It means that bushels full of documents culled and compiled in
months of research will be submitted in subsequent Human Rights Tribunal
hearings and regular courts PROVING the Holocaust as a criminal scheme
and blackmail racket! Important facts about the Holocaust Enforcer tactics
will get into the Canadian court transcripts – which has been Ernst’s
aim all along.
********** It also means that Mr. Pensa, the Lone but Well-Connected
Liberal, friend of premiers and prime ministers, will have to bear the full
burden of responsibility of any decisions yet to be made. This will not be
a pleasant role for one man to be in! Mr. Pensa is a well-known and
prominent lawyer. But the law, as Judge Campbell once more proved,
applies to all in the end.
********** In summary, it means the door is now cast wide open to
un-dreamed-of possibilities! For there are remedies in place in Civil Law
in Canada that can be invoked against judicial officers, if they
knowingly and willingly abuse their powers!
Below please find the document that lays down the ground rules for this
round:
=====
Douglas Christie Barrister, Solicitor and Notary Public
810 Courtney St., Victoria, B.C., Canada VOW 1C4 –
Tel: (250) 385 1022
Fax(250) 479 3294
April 13, 1999
Canadian Human Rights Commission,
344 Slater St., 8th Floor.
Ottawa, Ontario
K1A lE1
Fax: 613-993-3089
Attention: Mr. Reni Duval, Senior Counsel
Re: Citron et al. v. Z|ndel
Dear Mr. Duval,
As a result of Mr. Justice Campbell’s disposition of judicial reviews
T-1411-98, T-1154-98 and T-1155-98, member Reva Esther Devins is now
disqualified and prohibited from sitting in the matter, the ruling on the
admissibility and relevance of truth is quashed, and the ruling on the
qualification of Dr. Alexander Jacob as an expert witness is quashed. In
view of the foregoing, we consider that an adjournment sine die is the
only option for the Tribunal.
We intend to appeal Mr. Justice Campbell’s ruling as to remedy. In our view
the only practical remedy is to quash the proceedings. The situation is
such, as the Supreme Court of Canada held in Universiti du Quebec a
Trois-Rivieres v. Larocque, [1993] 1 S.C.R. 471, that it is impractical to
have the same adjudicative officer rehear the same issues he has already
ruled upon. He cannot sit on appeal from his own rulings. The Court
held:
“The appellant contended that the Superior Court had erred in ordering that
the new arbitration be held before another arbitrator, since there was no
real, objective reason for doubting the impartiality of the mis en cause
arbitrator.
On this point, in my opinion, the appellant did not succeed in establishing
that the Superior Court had erred in the exercise of its discretion so as
to justify intervention by this Court. Though he did not actually say so,
Lebrun J. was probably of the view that there could quite reasonably be
doubt as to the ability of a grievance arbitrator to objectively hear
evidence which he already thought was so lacking in significance as to
declare it irrelevant.”
This applies more so when the decisions Mr. Pensa made previously are
tainted with reasonable apprehension of bias in his association with member
Devins. In our view the law from Newfoundland Telephone Co. Ltd. v.
Board of Commissioners of Public Utilities (1992), 89 D.L.R. (4th) 289(S.C.C.)
and Larocque, supra, is in favor of a disqualification of the entire
panel.
In the circumstances now prevailing, we suggest that the Commission ask
member Claude Pensa to resign as was done in the Mills case or withdraw
the complaints. In our view, this would eliminate the necessity for appeals
of Madame Justice Reed’s decision and that of Mr. Justice Campbell’s.
We consider that an immediate adjournment of the proceedings sine die is
necessary at the present time for the following reasons:
1. If you intend to appeal the decisions of Mr. Justice Campbell, the
Tribunal must be adjourned because member Reva E. Devins cannot sit and
if you hear evidence in her absence an appeal would be moot. Her departure
could not be remedied and the evidence heard in her absence would result
in a mistrial.
2. If you refuse to agree to an adjournment, we intend to challenge Mr.
Pensa by asking him to disqualify himself. For the reasons in Newfoundland
Telephone and Larocque supra, we believe he should have to disqualify
himself for a reasonable apprehension of bias and because he cannot
rehear the same matters upon which he has given a decision.
3. We will seek the suspension of the 10 day rule due to the legal
consequences of the Campbell judgments which were only available today.
4. We give notice that we will be seeking a redetermination on all rulings
in which member Reva E. Devins participated. These are now open to
judicial review, given the results in T-l 154-98 and T-1155-98. Mr. Justice
Campbell’s reasoning makes clear that any decision in which Reva E.Devins
participated ( ie. – T-190-99 regarding bias and T-992-98) is subject to a
successful judicial review. We submit that these should be allowed by
consent with costs or we will claim costs in this and each and every
other judicial review of decisions in which she participated.
We need your views on adjournment by Wednesday by 3:00 PM because we
have to arrange Mr. Mark Weber’s travel from California. In the event you
refuse to consent to an adjournment, and if for any reason the proceedings do
not continue with Mr. Weber’s evidence, we will seek the costs of his
attendance – fees, travel and accommodation – against you.
The ruling limiting Mark Weber’s qualifications and evidence must now be
reopened since truth is now available to us as a defense. The rulings on
the qualifications of Dr. Robert Countess, Dr. Alexander Jacob, Mark Weber,
and Dr. Robert Faurisson are now in essence quashed, and are open to
being judicially reviewed because Ms. Devins participated in all of these. The
results of such judicial reviews are obvious. Either you agree to reopen
these rulings or we will seek judicial review with costs of each.
Given the ruling on truth, we will be moving that Dr. Schweitzer be
recalled for further cross-examination on the truth of matters in the
Zundelsite materials.
Our view is that these proceedings are so tainted by reasonable
apprehension of bias that they cannot be saved. We will not accept any
rulings in which member Reva Esther Devins participated. Those rulings
are nullities. Nor will we accept that Mr. Claude Pensa, sitting alone, is a
tribunal not tainted by bias. it is our position that the proceedings
are irretrievably tainted by reasonable apprehension of bias.
We wish to hear from you, as stated, by 3 PM on Wednesday to avoid the
costs of calling unnecessary witnesses.
Yours truly,
Douglas H. Christie
<end>
Thought for the Day:
“Zundel Wins…Appropriately, on ‘Holocaust Remembrance Day'”!”
By coincidence, another critic of the Holohoax, William Grosvenor,
has his birthday on 14 April….
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On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 14:57:10 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 17 Oct 1997 01:26:54 GMT, [email protected] (Doc
>Tavish) wrote:
>>From Lucy Dawidowicz’s book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>Bantam #13084-6 says on page 377: “Exploiting the superstitious
>>anti-Semitic prejudices of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>harnessed the violent energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>up and kill Jews.”
>>I now ask: “How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren’t in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>was a Jewish conceived and run totalitarian state!
>>”Individual revolutionary leaders and Sverdlov — played a conspicuous
>>part in the revolution of November, 1917, which enabled the
>>Bolshevists to take possession of the state apparatus” (Univ. Jew.
>>Encyd., Vol. IX, p.668). Here and there in the Universal Jewish
>>Encyclopedia other Jews are named as co-founders of Russian
>>Communism, but not Lenin and Stalin. Both of these, however,
>>are said by some writers to be half-Jewish. Whatever the racial
>>antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet commissariats were
>>largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in the Communist
>>movement was well understood in Russia. “The White Armies which
>>opposed the Bolsehvik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks
>>as common enemies” (Univ. Jew Encyc., Vol. I, p. 336).
>>The Ukrainians were part of the White Army (Gentile) that
>>opposed the Red Army (loyal to Jewish Commissariats).
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On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:15:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Sat, 09 Jan 1999 23:59:21 -0500, ipm <[email protected]> wrote:
>>iwraw wrote:
>>> PROSTITUTION AND TRAFFICKING OF WOMEN OCCURS ALL OVER THE >>> WORLD. IT IS AN ORGANISED CRIME. WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE.
>>> No country/race is more or less culpable. Do not focus on this as an issue
>>> of race. It isn’t just Israel but Thailand,
>>> India,Nepal,USA,Netherlands,Japan….everywhere.
>>> Furthermore,women who are involved in the sex trade should not be punished
>>> for it–that is what you suggest Israel should do?
>>Jews have been prominant in the white slave trade for a long time:
>>”The Jews in this particular sphere of activity far outnumbered all the other
>>’dealers’…The Jewish trafficker in women is the most terrible of all
>>profiteers of human vice; if the Jew could only be eliminated, the traffic in
>>women would shrink, and would become comparatively insignificant.” (Jewish
>>Chronicle, April 2, 1910).
>>Why do you try to protect criminals? I know, because they are Jews.
>On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:19:03 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Sat, 09 May 1998 04:22:46 GMT, [email protected] (Lenny)
>>wrote:
>>>On Fri, 8 May 1998 18:51:08 -0400, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>On Mon, 4 May 1998, irgun1943 wrote:
>>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>>> I sympathize with people being forced into prostitution.
>>>>> However, your intent is to promote hatred of israel and the Jewish
>>>>> people.
>>>>> No one wants your women. No one needs your women.
>>>>> They come illegally into Israel.
>>>>> Why not whore for the Germans? Ukrainians are good at that.
>>>>> irgun43
>>>> Despite your professed sympathies, the rest of your statements don’t
>>>> stand scrutiny. These women are imported illegaly into Israel because
>>>> there is obviously a demand, market, there for young slavic shikse.
>>>> There would not be the trafficking, if there were no demand.
>>>> “They come illegally …” Well it appears that many arrive quite legally
>>>> on promises/expectations of other work. Others are brought in, imported,
>>>> illegaly.
>>>> Israel is a country in which there are no laws prohibiting the buying
>>>> and selling of human beings as merchandise.
>>>> Also prostitution is legal in Israel, and although brothels are
>>>> illegal, this law seems to be more honoured in the breach.
>>>> The article did not single out Israel, however whereas in other countries
>>>> these things are at least illegal, that doesn’t appear to be the case
>>>> in Israel.
>>> The jews have a long history in slave trading. They financed and
>>>promoted the slavery of the negroes, which is now resulting in the
>>>racial mess we now have in America. *( For info on the jewish
>>>involvement in the negro slave trade go to the following web site
>>>http://www.tiac.net/users/lhl/Jews_and_Slavery.html
>>> Now the jews are turning their hooked noses toward the white Eastern
>>>European women, it is no wonder , these parasites of humanity abused
>>>these people under communism now they abuse them sexually. It is the
>>>nature of these people to destroy, like a parasite destroys it’s host.
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>Switzerland in the Grip of the ‘Traditional Enemy’
>by Bernhard Schaub
>Our country is today involved in the greatest foreign policy
>crisis since the Second World War. It faces a powerful enemy who,
>paradoxically, hardly anyone dares to name because in the western
>world he enjoys a kind of state protection, and because he
>portrays itself in the image of the eternally persecuted. In this
>situation, the blackmailer has been able to appear as the poor,
>persecuted victim, and to take advantage of most people’s good
>nature and sense of fair play.
>How could it have come to this? To recapitulate a few things: In
>1991 the Swiss confederation celebrated its 700th anniversary. On
>this occasion there appeared in the year book (Jahrbuch) of
>Migros, Switzerland’s largest chain store, an interview with
>labor union secretary Ruth Dreifuss. At the time this Jewish
>woman, and a former Zionist youth movement member, was not very
>well known. In this interview she expressed herself with
>disarming openness about our country’s future. She said that, as
>far as she was concerned, it is not important whether Switzerland
>survives as a sovereign country, but that, in any case, she
>certainly wishes to see Switzerland as a colorful country, that
>is of people of mixed race with many mixed marriages. A short
>time later Dreifuss was appointed, under unusual circumstances,
>to a high-level post on the governing Federal Council
>(Bundesrat).
>
>Then came a bustle of activity, most notably the introduction of
>a so-called anti-racism law, which makes it a crime to “deny or
>whitewash the genocide,” and a campaign to encourage guilt
>feelings among the Swiss regarding their role during the Second
>World War.
>It should be kept in mind that Switzerland stayed out of the
>conflict as a neutral country, even though during the war years
>it was completely surrounded by Axis countries. For this small
>mountainous country without natural resources, import and export
>is a matter of survival — and naturally this was true during the
>war as well. Among the goods routinely traded were military
>supplies and gold. Everywhere this has always been the case, and
>it’s not likely to change much in the future. There was no reason
>under international law why Switzerland should have stopped its
>trade with the Third Reich.
>As it had in earlier times of war, Switzerland once again took
>seriously its role as a humanitarian country. The International
>Committee of the Red Cross, headquartered in Geneva, was very
>active everywhere it was permitted to operate. Some 300,000
>refugees were given shelter in Switzerland, of whom almost 30,000
>were Jews. By percentage of population this was far more than any
>other country.
>But let us return to Federal Council member Dreifuss. She and her
>Social Democratic Party, with the help of the largely cooperative
>or coordinated media, did not tire of maligning Switzerland. At
>the same time, and parallel with this, Jewish circles in the
>United States began a massive campaign of accusations against
>Switzerland, with fantastic demands for money. At this same time,
>a Jewish woman, May Kunin, was coincidentally named as the US
>ambassador to Switzerland. International Jewish community leaders
>Edgar Bronfman, Israel Singer and Avraham Burg joined in,
>increasing the pressure on Switzerland to such an extent that
>Federal Council president Jean-Pascal Delamuraz spoke of a
>campaign of “blackmail,” and the Swiss ambassador in the United
>States, Carlo Jagmetti, even referred, in a confidential paper,
>to this as a “war.” (Jagmetti promptly resigned, and Delamuraz
>was condemned to silence.)
>Even though some resistance to this campaign has been developing
>around the out-spoken businessman and parliamentary deputy
>Christoph Blocher, these recent developments suggest that very
>probably Switzerland will submit to the pressure and pay up.
>How was all this possible? The reason is quite simple. All
>discussions of this matter are based on two axiomatic premises,
>and an associated conclusion:
>First, the Third Reich gassed six million Jews,
>Second, so many people can’t be killed without the neighboring
>countries taking notice, and
>Third, therefore the Swiss must have known and thereby are also
>co-guilty.
>While a number of revisionist historians have effectively
>discredited the first premise, recently two prominent Swiss
>historians of contemporary history have specifically repudiated
>the conclusion: Prof. J. R. Salis and Prof. E. Bonjour confirm
>that knowledgeable Swiss authorities had no solid evidence of any
>mass extermination before the end of the war (Recht und Freiheit,
>Oct. 2, 1995; Thurgauer Zeitung, June 2, 1997). [See also: Arthur
>R. Butz, “Context and Perspective in the ‘Holocaust’
>Controversy,” The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1982, pp.
>371-405.]
>But to say such a thing can bring a thinking person into trouble
>with the law: if the third sentence is not correct, the first or
>second premise must not be true. The second cannot be doubted
>because it corresponds with basic common sense. Logically the
>Allied secret services would have promptly learned of mass
>gassings, and the Allied political leaders certainly would not
>have ignored such an opportunity for propaganda against Germany.
>Therefore the first premise must be dubious. But that’s something
>no one dares to think because it’s not permitted. As a result,
>Frau Dreifuss can claim with no fear of contradiction that
>Switzerland’s wartime Federal Council “knew that Jews were being
>annihilated” (Nouveau Quotidien, May 9, 1995). Hardly anyone
>dares seriously to contradict this, much less to make the
>revisionist argument in a forceful way.
>In this catastrophic situation, which points up Switzerland’s
>laughable and humiliating subordination to world Jewry, the
>question arises: why now, more than half a century after the
>events in question?
>In answering this question, it should be stressed that this
>campaign is concerned with something quite different than
>historical justice. Accordingly, the accusations are not made
>against specific individuals or institutions, but rather involve
>a propaganda campaign against an entire country. Moreover, it
>should be noted, the accusations are not made by a foreign
>country or government, but rather entirely by individual persons
>and private institutions (especially the World Jewish Congress),
>which, under international law, our federal government is under
>no obligation even to answer. To the contrary, the Swiss
>government would be justified in formally calling on Washington
>to curtail the impertinent Senator Alphonse D’Amato. But nothing
>like that is happening.
>If it’s not historical justice that our adversaries are concerned
>about, what is it?
>Switzerland is in some ways a troublesome country. It is the
>world’s only direct democracy, which means that our government
>must submit every major decision or policy to a referendum of the
>people. This is what Swiss people understand by freedom, and why
>the half-historical, half-mystical figure of Wilhelm Tell is a
>national symbol.
>Switzerland is also a neutral country, a status rooted in an
>ancient conception of self that goes back to the sacred national
>figure Niklaus von Fl3e. In the 15th century this mystic gave
>this piece of advice to his warlike Swiss compatriots: “Don’t
>involve yourself in foreign affairs. But if someone attacks you,
>defend yourselves bravely.” Since that time the idea of armed
>neutrality has been a basic Swiss principle.
>These two basic principles of the Swiss Confederation help
>explain why Switzerland has not joined any international
>organizations. The Swiss have rejected membership in the United
>Nations organization, NATO, and the European Union because they
>fear a loss of sovereignty and do not want to send their men to
>war on behalf of foreign powers. At the same time no one can
>accuse Switzerland of narrow-minded nationalism. Alongside the
>majority German-speaking population, people of French and Italian
>culture live here unthreatened and with complete equal rights. It
>is no wonder that prominent thinkers and influential statesman
>time and again have cited Switzerland as a model for European
>unification. Recently, for example, the deputy chairman of the
>CDU/CSU faction in the German Bundestag, Heiner Geissler, said:
>”Switzerland is a prototype for what the European Union should
>look like politically” (Br3ckenbauer, March 5, 1997).
>It seem paradoxical, but therein lays the deeper reason for the
>on-going campaign against Switzerland: it is a fight against the
>Swiss idea. And one must remember that this idea is based on a
>very solid foundation. Our country may be geographically small,
>but it is the seventh most important industrial country in
>Europe, and one of the world’s most important financial centers.
>If such a country defies what is called the “New World Order,”
>then in spite of its apparent small size it is a factor of
>intellectual and economic importance to be taken seriously in the
>calculation of the “one worlders.”
>This “New World Order” is not to be directly democratic, nor will
>it respect developed cultures. To the contrary, it will be, as
>Winston Churchill once warned, “an authoritarian, almighty world
>order” (Speeches of Winston Churchill, New York, 1974). As the
>founder of the Paneuropa Union, Count Richard N.
>Coudenhove-Kalergi, spelled out in his book, Praktischer
>Idealismus (“Practical Idealism”; Vienna/Leipzig, 1925), its
>population will consist of a “Eurasian-Negroid mixed race.”
>This “one world” will also require a common spiritual foundation,
>a religious basis. According to an official of the Canadian B’nai
>B’rith organization, Ian J. Kagedan, this will be the Holocaust
>faith (Toronto Star, Nov. 26, 1991). It is characteristic that
>the term for the alleged mass gassing of Jews is a Greek word
>that comes from the language of the ancient religions.
>Thus, this truly “New World Order” will be: one world, with one
>government, one (mixed) race, ruled by one “chosen” people, one
>god (Yahweh), and one cult — the Holocaust.
>The Switzerland idea is the antithesis of this, and therefore
>must be destroyed. To accomplish this, bombs are not necessary.
>It will suffice to discredit the Swiss idea in the world, and
>among the Swiss themselves — to disparage it so that people will
>reject it and turn to the arms of the “New World Order.”
>To morally destroy an adversary, nothing works better than to
>accuse him of complicity with the Third Reich. This task was
>taken up by Senator D’Amato as the instrument of the New York
>Zionists. Today the same tried and true method is being used
>against Switzerland that for years has successfully worked
>against Germany. Accusations without basis are made according to
>the notion that people are more inclined to accept a big lie than
>a small one. At the same time the claim is made that these
>accusations can be proven with countless documents. Eventually
>the public begins to believe that such documents actually exist
>because newspapers, radio and television all say so. In this
>campaign, the largest circulation magazines of our country even
>use doctored photographs (as the conservative middle class
>opposition periodical Schweizerzeit recently revealed [March 7,
>1997]).
>The most diverse accusations are made in this masterful campaign
>of deliberate confusion, so that the hapless media consumer has
>no idea what the real situation is. The goal here is not to
>honestly inform the people, but rather to confuse the public in a
>fog of guilt feelings.
>Let’s take a look at the most important of the accusations. The
>most serious is that Swiss banks have kept for themselves
>enormous sums of money deposited by Jews, instead of turning over
>this money to the rightful heirs. American Jews speak of 30
>billion Swiss Francs. There is also talk of hoarding stolen art
>treasures, of laundering gold to the advantage of the Third
>Reich, and from time to time there’s mention of the infamous gold
>teeth of gassed Jews.
>The Swiss are also accused of welcoming too few Jewish refugees
>during the war, thereby condemning tens of thousand of Jews to
>”certain death”. Swiss Jews who gave support to Jewish refugees
>in Switzerland during the war are now suddenly demanding that the
>Swiss government compensate them for their expenditures. And,
>predictably, the Gypsies are now also speaking up and demanding
>money as well.
>This entire absurd comedy might be simply laughed off if one did
>not understand that our contemporaries have been thoroughly
>impregnated with the Holocaust religion. As a result, even
>patriotic groups in Switzerland argue that we should attempt to
>discredit these accusations rather than turn the tables around
>and come to grips with the fundamental issues of contemporary
>history.
>The commission of historians set up by the Swiss government
>therefore should not merely investigate our trade and refugee
>policy during the war, but, more to the point, deal with the
>question of the supposed destruction of the Jews. In this regard
>they could cite the statement by the Freiburg historian Ulrich
>Herbert, who recently said: “Historians have so far only
>interpreted the Holocaust. The task now is to investigate it”
>(Frankfurter Rundschau, Feb. 13, 1997).
>It is high time to transform this conflict from one of morally
>vulnerable sentiment to one of intelligent, clear-headed
>analysis. For the time being this may be little more than a
>lonely call in the desert. One is also justified in fearing legal
>repercussions for reaching conclusions in this controversial
>subject different than the officially permitted ones. By the same
>token no one dares to shed light on the dark history of Zionism,
>and thereby to go on the counterattack.
>Meanwhile, bowing to “international” pressure, Swiss banks and
>businesses have established a fund of 150 Million Swiss francs to
>help Holocaust victims. This was done even though originally
>everyone was supposed to wait for the release (in the summer of
>1997) of the report of the already-mentioned historians’
>commission. But in the meantime New York and world Jewry were
>threatening a boycott of Swiss financial institutions, and this
>is something the Swiss banks could not dare risk. They much
>preferred to pay something right away. A short time later the
>Swiss Federal Council decided to establish a “solidarity
>foundation,” based on our gold reserves with a starting capital
>of seven billion.
>On the other side of the Atlantic, Senator D’Amato triumphantly
>spoke of a “admission or acknowledgment of guilt.” This is
>reminiscent of the dictated Versailles treaty of 1919, whereby
>Germany was obliged to sign a guilt clause or face military
>occupation. Switzerland is today experiencing its own Versailles
>Diktat. It is being forced to pay reparations, and one day it may
>likewise endure its own Nuremburg. At a press conference last
>last year, Jewish attorney Edward D. Fagan stated: “Germany was
>brought to court in Nuremburg, and Switzerland will be brought to
>court in Brooklyn” (Tagesanzeiger, Nov. 29, 1996.)
>This campaign is by no means finished. Its goal will be reached
>only when little Switzerland and all of Europe are finally forced
>into submission.
>– March 12, 1997
>Bernhard Schaub, was born in 1954 in Bern, Switzerland. He taught
>history and German at a private school in Zurich until January
>1993, when he was fired without notice. This termination was a
>consequence of his 1992 book, Adler und Rose, on the history of
>German-speaking Central Europe. Because passages in this book
>call wartime “gassings” into question, the author was subjected
>to media smears. Since January 1993 he has worked as an
>independent teacher of adult education courses. He is the father
>of two daughters. (Adler und Rose is available from: Postfach
>386, 8105 Regensdorf, Switzerland.)
>This article is taken from The Journal for Historical Review, PO
>Box 2739, Newport Beach, CA 92659, USA. Subscriptions to the
>Journal are $40 per year (6 issues). The IHR website is at
><http://www.ihr.org>
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On Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:13:42 GMT, NSWPP <[email protected]> wrote:
>Zhirinovsky Blames Jews for WWII
>By VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV
>..c The Associated Press
>MOSCOW (AP) – In his most direct anti-Semitic statements yet,
>ultranationalist Vladimir Zhirinovsky blamed Jews on Wednesday for
>starting World War II and provoking the Holocaust.
>The politician’s anti-Semitic comments have drawn international
>condemnation for years, but Wednesday’s remarks in an hourlong address
>to reporters were some of his least subtle.
>”The essence of the conflict around the Jewish people is that when
>their number grows too much in some country, war breaks out there,”
>said Zhirinovsky, who leads the third-largest faction in the Russian
>parliament’s lower house.
>”That happened in Germany … where there were too many Jews,” he
>declared.
>Zhirinovsky, a former presidential candidate, has a flamboyant style
>and clearly relishes making provocative statements.
>It was not clear why he called the news conference, which he turned
>into a monologue about his vision of the history of the Jews and their
>role in contemporary life.
>”Many Jews were born in April,” was the only explanation he
>provided.
>Rabbi Abraham Cooper, associate dean of the Los Angeles-based Simon
>Wiesenthal Center, said Zhirinovsky’s statement could also have been
>timed for the Jewish holiday of Passover, which begins Friday, or
>Holocaust Memorial Day on April 23.
>His allegation that Jews started World War II was not just “a slap in
>the face to the Jewish victims,” but also an appeal to strong
>emotions around the war effort, one of the few national undertakings
>of the Soviet era that remain sacred in today’s Russia, Cooper said.
>”He’s talking to a country that lost 20 million people in the Second
>World War,” he said.
>Cooper called on Russia’s political and Orthodox Church leaders “to
>put Zhirinovsky in his place” and reject his statements.
>Anti-Semitism is widespread in Russia, which has the third-largest
>Jewish population in the world, after the United States and Israel.
>Still, Zhirinovsky’s remarks were stronger than most ever aired
>publicly.
>While repeating several times that his party isn’t anti-Semitic,
>Zhirinovsky accused Jews of sparking the 1917 Bolshevik revolution and
>bringing Russia to ruin ever since.
>”You will always find Jews where war is raging, because they realize
>that money flows where blood is spilled,” he said.
>He repeated stereotypical slurs, and even accused the Jews of causing
>repressions and the Holocaust.
>”Jews themselves, Zionist leaders, often provoked anti-Jewish
>sentiments, and Jewish pogroms,” he said.
>He also accused Jews of taking Russian women abroad for prostitution,
>selling healthy Russian children and transplant organs to the West and
>robbing Russia of its gold, diamonds and other assets.
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jacob bekker wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > sperati wrote:
> > > ———- Forwarded message ———-
> > > Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
> > > From: stefan lemieszewski <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
> > > From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
> > > that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
> > > ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
> > > group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
> > > The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
> > > titled “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.” If someone has access I would
> > > appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
> > > to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
> > > >>Stefan Lemieszewski
> > > —————————————————————————
> > > North Shore News
> > > February 2, 1997
> > > Insights from abroad
> > > Doug Collins
> > > TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
> > > that is ignored in Canada.
> > > When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
> > > served in Hiler’s forces as high ranking officers.
> > > The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
> > > about “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.”
> > > There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
> > > was Erhard Milch, who “masterminded German aircraft production and
> > > transformed the Luftwaffe.” His father was Jewish.
> > > At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of “mixed Jewish race or
> > > married to Jews.” They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
> > > generals, and 23 colonels.
> > > Seventeen “Jews in Nazi uniform” were awarded the Knights Cross,
> > > Germany’s highest military honor. In all probability there were many
> > > more. The research is continuing.
> > > Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
> > > in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
> > > alive.
> > > Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
> > > father, “wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle.”
> > > Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
> > > whether they were “victims or perpetrators.”
> > > A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
> > > the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
> > > The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
> > > Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
> > > he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
> > > and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
> > > documents in the process.
> > > The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
> > > Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler’s Germany; also that no Jew
> > > could ever have fought for Hitler.
> > > A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, “It makes
> > > the reality of the Nazi state more complicated.”
> > > He stated, too, that Rigg’s research would “inform both the argument
> > > about Hitler’s role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
> > > ant-semitism among ordinary Germans.”
> > > Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg’s research may be
> > > used by “deniers.” But most “deniers” do not deny that large numbers of
> > > Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
> > > what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
> > > British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
> > > international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
> > > produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
> > > Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
> > > Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
> > > Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
> > > was a Jew.
> > > Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
> > > As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
> > > full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
> > > one were seen as “mixed race” and were also denied full citizenship.
> > > But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
> > > Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
> > > As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
> > > knew had Jewish ancestors were of “Aryan descent.” Milch, sentenced to a
> > > term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
> > > A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
> > > After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
> > > the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
> > > Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
> > > Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
> > > plotting against Hitler.
> > > The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
> > > and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
> > > and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
> > > to it that he was discharged from the army.
> > > All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
> > > able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
> > > wonder why?
> > > —The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
> > > right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
> > > the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
> > > necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
> > If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
> > definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
> > their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
==============================================
Phillips
There is one very significant omission: I believe that Reinhard Heydrich,
head of the SD (intelligence arm of the SS) was partly Jewish. As you
said, there were complex rules pertaining to persons of mixed race thaat
depended on the degree of mixture.
===========
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On Mon, 01 Feb 1999 16:10:10 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Wed, 29 Oct 1997 01:04:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>The article has more than enough active website addresses, that you
>>>should have been able to read more useful material.
>>>By the way, why not comment on your ideas relevant to the subject
>>>heading.
>>>On Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:56:12 +0000, philip de cadenet
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>Roger,
>>>>>In view of the constant reports by Interpol that the Russian JEW Mafia
>>>>>is spreading its control around the world, combined with the strength of
>>>>>the JEWS under communism, one wonders, is Russia now under the full
>>>>>control of JEWS??
>>>>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>>>>>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>>>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>>>>> One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called “Russian
>>>>>Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>>>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>>>> First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>>>>>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>>>>> While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>>>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>>>Archives:
>>>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>>>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>>>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>>>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>>>Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>>>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
>>>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384
>>>>>`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come >>>>>to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>>>Government.”
>>>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>>>Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>>>>>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>>>Moisei Uritsky.
>>>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>>>>>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>>>”Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>>>>>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>>>here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>>>>>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>>>Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>>>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>>>Gordon.
>>>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>>>often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>>>all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>>>were Jews.
>>>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>>>did not take kindly to it.”
>>>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>>>”anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>>>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>>>>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>>>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>>>>>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>>>4, 1919)
>>>>>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>>>>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>>>the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>>>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>>>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>>>himself:
>>>>>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>>>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>>>penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>>>virtually untouched.
>>>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>>>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>>>American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>>>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>>>Communist bosses.
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Roger Hughes
>>>>> http://www.natall.com
>>>>> http://www.natvan.com
>>>>Philip de Cadenet / UK
>On 1 Feb 1999 02:49:56 GMT, [email protected] (ROLO15) wrote:
>>How could it have happened that Russians have permitted the revolutionary
>>governmetn so be slanted ethnically?
>>Do Russians accepte blame for being so inert or gullible to let Jews to
>>capture the initiative?
>>Do Russians accept blame for not watching out for their own interests and not
>>protecting their country?
>>Why is it that Russians know mathematic and biology, and are capable writers,
>>but seem to always loose competition?
>>Is the “Oblomov complex” at work?
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On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:42:49 GMT, [email protected]
wrote:
>You will probably be branded a racist by the Jew Sol Littman and his
>band of terrorists!!!
>They do not want non-Jews like you to read their books, which detail
>THEIR RACIST POLICIES!!!
>On 22 Mar 1998 17:57:57 GMT, [email protected] () wrote:
>>vark! ([email protected]) wrote:
>>: [email protected] wrote:
>>: > But who decides. The flat earth people say it is hatred against their
>>: > beliefs for schools to teach that the world is round.
>>: *We* are to say, the collective voice of our nation. You know,
>>: ‘Democracy’. But congratulations for utterly trivializing a serious
>>: debate.
>>Ok, read the following from the Jewish Talmud and ask yourself if it is
>>racism and promotes hatred.
>>Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 14:56:42 -0800
>>From: Cool Canadian <[email protected]>
>>Newsgroups: soc.culture.palestine
>>Subject: Jewish Racism towards Non-Jews as expressed in the Talmud
>>”The modern Jew is the product of the Talmud…”
>> “Babylonian Talmud”, published by the Boston Talmud Society,p. XII
>>The Jews refer to the remainder of Earths inhabitants, the non-Jewish
>>peoples, as “Gentiles”, “Goyim”. Let’s see what the Jewish Talmud teaches the >>Jews concerning the non-Jewish majority,
>>i.e. those who are not part of Jahve’s “Chosen People”:
>>”The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They
>>are beasts.”
>>Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b
>>”The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor
>>the the dog more than the non-Jew.”
>>Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30
>>”Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human
>>form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therfore he will be >>served by animals in human form.”
>>Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855
>>”A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal.”
>>Coschen hamischpat 405
>>”The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs.”
>>Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b
>>”Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they
>>compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human.”
>>Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b
>>”If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog.”
>>Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b
>>”If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not
>>express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: “God will replace ‘your loss’, >>just as if one of his oxen or asses had died”.”
>>Jore dea 377, 1
>>”Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between
>>animals.”
>>Talmud Sanhedrin 74b
>>”It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile.”
>>Sepher ikkarim III c 25
>>”It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians
>>belong to the denying ones of the Torah.”
>>Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5
>>”A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands.”
>>Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b
>>”Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the
>>same as making a sacrifice to God.”
>>Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772
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