Anon probable 5, Grosvenor William 2008 – p2

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From: Frank Arthur
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Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!!
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Mcvay and his one fag business Nizkor, [where only McVay
gets paid there], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged
in completely Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds!

They are being considered for prosecution in both USA & Canada!

Proof is from McVay’s & Harry Mazal’s own postings detailing his money
laundering!

Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities.

With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!

No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam!

Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay’s criminality and
money being laundered:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally
Owned and Controlled by Jews v3.0 U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
Message-ID:

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID:
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund — Some New
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
——————————AND——————————-
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0 Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID:
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?
You All be the Judges! V2-0
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
(Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two “bogus” funds!)
Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his
defense of McVay; he’s evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis’ Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay’s Address AND Ken
Lewis Benefitting from McVay’s
Funding Scams? V2.0 T_1227
Message-ID:
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B’nai Brith’s Apparent Funding Kick Backs and
Tax Scam V2.0
Message-ID:
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
(The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and
currently perpetrated by B’nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay’s Nizkor Project in which B’nai Brith launders exempt
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant

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From: “Gnostic”
Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted,
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General’s Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail — and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood — practically a city onto itself — are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing — garbage bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: “Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka.”

A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions — or even thousands — of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn’t seem like it’s
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General’s
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed — a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants’ lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year — what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O’Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

“There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would be
the subject of government investigations,” O’Brien said.

While O’Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took in
about $750,000 through the scheme — then writing receipts for $8.7
million — in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud has
been going on for decades: “I believe this goes on beyond living memory,”
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government — aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles’ ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city’s prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there’s also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case — though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.

THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and “expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced,” according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
“confidential witness (CW-1)” and the recent grand jury indictment refers to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which “he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka,” he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer’s contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

“Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission’s case,” according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe’s gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: “The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money.”

“How much?” Zigelman asked.

“Possibly one, one and a half,” Kasirer said.

“Million?” Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn’t have the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he’d lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

“What is SEC?” Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, “Yes, yes, but you don’t have to
give it to them.”

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.

CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his “donations” back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer’s money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer’s house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the “donation” was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no “goods” or “services” in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi — which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles — to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor — the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large — is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be “held in confidence by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs — tax matters are not an issue.” Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

“So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before,” Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer’s name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he’d take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed Israeli
bank, “so I can use the money here.” Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O’Brien.

“We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. — the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe there
are multiple agents involved,” O’Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, “who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy,” O’Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father — the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los Angeles
and is known as a “stalwart” of the Jewish community — was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, “It’s not something you started.”

Kasirer replied, “I was really not aware of what he did with my father.”

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

“RK’s father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it,” O’Brien
said in an interview. “We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that — beyond living memory.”

CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

“There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government,” said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it’s not just the Jews, he claimed, “churches do the same
thing.” Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns —
although many do — and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

“Nobody here owns a yacht,” a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then — as with many such institutional fraud cases — that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone’s pockets, it’s not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

“The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent to
50 percent of someone’s income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah,” one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for “What Is News?”) blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, “Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities.” Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

“The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice,” he
wrote.

Some prisons — especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami — have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. “The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling.”

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

“Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah’s commitment to honesty in one’s interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth,” he wrote

DON’T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case — both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts — has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was — an informant who
turned state’s evidence to save his own skin — but what they wanted to know
was what was he? Was he a moser — an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to “the world to come.”

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim — Orthodox rabbinic deciders — there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. “These rules apply only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person’s
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person’s body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself,” it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, (“Laying the Table,” a book about Jewish law written in the late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in “Dinnai Mamonut” (“Laws of Money”) says informing is
prohibited. “All rules of informing are applicable even currently …. Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people.”

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others — a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be “permitted” to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

“There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law,” May said. “Having said that, it doesn’t justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants].”

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
“everybody does it” and “we pay more taxes than everyone else,” that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. “Our business is the integrity [of the individual],” he said.
“Something which is wrong is wrong.”

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser — which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God’s
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

“To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,”
Cohen wrote.

BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 — not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes — all waiting for the morning’s arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn’t converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books — either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms — and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start — not because of the upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate — but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin’s
synagogue in Hancock Park — which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use — and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a few
men walked out in protest.

“As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong,” one person who left quietly said later. “I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat,” but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
“one stage less than normal” to show children “that it’s not business as
usual.”

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to have
the charges read to them.

“How do you plead?” Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: “Not guilty.”

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead his
congregation. He’s free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B’nai Brith!!

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From: “Gnostic”
Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted,
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General’s Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail — and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood — practically a city onto itself — are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing — garbage bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: “Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka.”

A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions — or even thousands — of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn’t seem like it’s
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General’s
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed — a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants’ lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year — what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O’Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

“There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would be
the subject of government investigations,” O’Brien said.

While O’Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took in
about $750,000 through the scheme — then writing receipts for $8.7
million — in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud has
been going on for decades: “I believe this goes on beyond living memory,”
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government — aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles’ ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city’s prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there’s also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case — though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.

THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and “expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced,” according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
“confidential witness (CW-1)” and the recent grand jury indictment refers to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which “he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka,” he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer’s contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

“Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission’s case,” according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe’s gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: “The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money.”

“How much?” Zigelman asked.

“Possibly one, one and a half,” Kasirer said.

“Million?” Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn’t have the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he’d lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

“What is SEC?” Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, “Yes, yes, but you don’t have to
give it to them.”

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.

CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his “donations” back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer’s money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer’s house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the “donation” was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no “goods” or “services” in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi — which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles — to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor — the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large — is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be “held in confidence by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs — tax matters are not an issue.” Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

“So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before,” Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer’s name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he’d take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed Israeli
bank, “so I can use the money here.” Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O’Brien.

“We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. — the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe there
are multiple agents involved,” O’Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, “who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy,” O’Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father — the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los Angeles
and is known as a “stalwart” of the Jewish community — was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, “It’s not something you started.”

Kasirer replied, “I was really not aware of what he did with my father.”

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

“RK’s father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it,” O’Brien
said in an interview. “We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that — beyond living memory.”

CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

“There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government,” said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it’s not just the Jews, he claimed, “churches do the same
thing.” Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns —
although many do — and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

“Nobody here owns a yacht,” a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then — as with many such institutional fraud cases — that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone’s pockets, it’s not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

“The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent to
50 percent of someone’s income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah,” one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for “What Is News?”) blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, “Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities.” Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

“The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice,” he
wrote.

Some prisons — especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami — have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. “The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling.”

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

“Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah’s commitment to honesty in one’s interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth,” he wrote

DON’T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case — both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts — has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was — an informant who
turned state’s evidence to save his own skin — but what they wanted to know
was what was he? Was he a moser — an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to “the world to come.”

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim — Orthodox rabbinic deciders — there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. “These rules apply only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person’s
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person’s body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself,” it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, (“Laying the Table,” a book about Jewish law written in the late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in “Dinnai Mamonut” (“Laws of Money”) says informing is
prohibited. “All rules of informing are applicable even currently …. Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people.”

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others — a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be “permitted” to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

“There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law,” May said. “Having said that, it doesn’t justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants].”

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
“everybody does it” and “we pay more taxes than everyone else,” that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. “Our business is the integrity [of the individual],” he said.
“Something which is wrong is wrong.”

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser — which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God’s
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

“To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,”
Cohen wrote.

BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 — not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes — all waiting for the morning’s arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn’t converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books — either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms — and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start — not because of the upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate — but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin’s
synagogue in Hancock Park — which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use — and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a few
men walked out in protest.

“As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong,” one person who left quietly said later. “I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat,” but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
“one stage less than normal” to show children “that it’s not business as
usual.”

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to have
the charges read to them.

“How do you plead?” Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: “Not guilty.”

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead his
congregation. He’s free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

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Subject: Ban Jew Child Molestation
Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 09:22:54 -0600

The Jews have elevated Political Correctness to a religion, so that
child genital mutilating and nation destroying cults like themselves
are allowed to practice their sick and atavistic rituals.

Canada is siick in the head when we can’t show these alien freaks the
door. Fuuuuck the Africans, Muslim and Jews, we don’t need the
influence of their inferior barbaric cultures.

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=a0f1c0cf-2452-42eb-
bf75-b56f354f9dce&k=84150

Cautious criticism
A Growing Number Of Activists Are Hesitant To Decry Female Genital
Mutilation
Zosia Bielski, National Post
Published: Saturday, August 25, 2007

Academia’s fixation on cultural sensitivity is changing the debate
around female genital mutilation, with a growing number of professors
and women’s rights activists becoming hesitant to condemn the practice.

Where feminists rallied against the operation from the pages of Ms.
magazine in the 1970s, today’s critics are infinitely more cautious,
with most suggesting that the Western world butt out until Muslim
African communities are ready to reconsider what they are doing to
their daughters.

The shift in attitudes about the practice– which in the worst of cases
involves the carving out of a woman’s clitoris and inner labia and can
cause lifelong urinary tract infections, sterility and even death —
comes at a time when high-profile victims of the operation such as
writer Ayaan Hirsi Ali and model Waris Dirie, both Somalis, have
launched very public campaigns against the practice.
Two Kenyan girls sit near a knife used for female genital mutilation in
Nyamira, west of Nairobi. “There are good reasons within the society
for the operation to continue, but these are cultural reasons. They are
not scientific ones,” says Janice Boddy, a University of Toronto
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Two Kenyan girls sit near a knife used for female genital mutilation in
Nyamira, west of Nairobi. “There are good reasons within the society
for the operation to continue, but these are cultural reasons. They are
not scientific ones,” says Janice Boddy, a University of Toronto
professor.
Simon Maina, Agence France-Presse

The issue is so explosive, it has two names — female genital
mutilation, or FGM, to those most vociferously opposed to the practice;
and female genital cutting, or FGC, to those in the less-condemning
camp.

The latter includes the chair of anthropology at the University of
Toronto, who has written a new book on the subject. Although not
prepared to defend what she calls FGC, Janice Boddy defends women who
undergo the operation and want the practice to continue in future
generations.

“There are good reasons within the society for the operation to
continue, but these are cultural reasons. They are not scientific
ones,” says Prof. Boddy, author of Civilizing Women: British Crusades
in Colonial Sudan.

Working through British and Sudanese archives, she looks at the history
of FGC in that country, particularly European colonial interactions
with the practice, from British nurses attempting to re-educate
Sudanese midwives in the 1920s, to the country’s outlawing of the
practice in 1946 amid Western pressure.

“It isn’t a happy situation by any means. I wouldn’t want it to
continue. But I think that up until this point, the West has not been
particularly helpful in the way that it’s gone about trying to assist
in the eradication,” Prof. Boddy says.

Prevalent in, though not exclusive to, Muslim societies, particularly
in Sudan, Somalia, northern Kenya and parts of Ethiopia and Indonesia,
female genital mutilation takes on its most severe form in
infibulation, or pharaonic circumcision.

This can involve the removal of both the clitoris and inner labia with
crude instruments such as razors. The entire vagina is then sewn up
with thread, or fastened with thorns.

In this way, a woman’s virginity — considered especially important by
Muslim men–can be proven before her father is paid the bride price.

The Sudanese, Prof. Boddy argues, are a fiercely guarded culture, one
that sees the practice as a defence of their people against intruders,
and, astonishingly, as protection against injury.

“The cultural context in which this practice takes place supports the
idea of enclosing the body against harm,” she writes in her book. The
social body is closed against intrusion from the outside by marriages
between relatives. People marry cousins … The kinship system is quite
closed. That image of the defensive society, the defensive social body,
is carried over into this idea of defending the physical body.

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From: Anarchore
Subject: Ban Jew Child Molestation
Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 09:22:54 -0600

The Jews have elevated Political Correctness to a religion, so that
child genital mutilating and nation destroying cults like themselves
are allowed to practice their sick and atavistic rituals.

Canada is siick in the head when we can’t show these alien freaks the
door. Fuuuuck the Africans, Muslim and Jews, we don’t need the
influence of their inferior barbaric cultures.

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=a0f1c0cf-2452-42eb-
bf75-b56f354f9dce&k=84150

Cautious criticism
A Growing Number Of Activists Are Hesitant To Decry Female Genital
Mutilation
Zosia Bielski, National Post
Published: Saturday, August 25, 2007

Academia’s fixation on cultural sensitivity is changing the debate
around female genital mutilation, with a growing number of professors
and women’s rights activists becoming hesitant to condemn the practice.

Where feminists rallied against the operation from the pages of Ms.
magazine in the 1970s, today’s critics are infinitely more cautious,
with most suggesting that the Western world butt out until Muslim
African communities are ready to reconsider what they are doing to
their daughters.

The shift in attitudes about the practice– which in the worst of cases
involves the carving out of a woman’s clitoris and inner labia and can
cause lifelong urinary tract infections, sterility and even death —
comes at a time when high-profile victims of the operation such as
writer Ayaan Hirsi Ali and model Waris Dirie, both Somalis, have
launched very public campaigns against the practice.
Two Kenyan girls sit near a knife used for female genital mutilation in
Nyamira, west of Nairobi. “There are good reasons within the society
for the operation to continue, but these are cultural reasons. They are
not scientific ones,” says Janice Boddy, a University of Toronto
professor.View Larger Image View Larger Image
Two Kenyan girls sit near a knife used for female genital mutilation in
Nyamira, west of Nairobi. “There are good reasons within the society
for the operation to continue, but these are cultural reasons. They are
not scientific ones,” says Janice Boddy, a University of Toronto
professor.
Simon Maina, Agence France-Presse

The issue is so explosive, it has two names — female genital
mutilation, or FGM, to those most vociferously opposed to the practice;
and female genital cutting, or FGC, to those in the less-condemning
camp.

The latter includes the chair of anthropology at the University of
Toronto, who has written a new book on the subject. Although not
prepared to defend what she calls FGC, Janice Boddy defends women who
undergo the operation and want the practice to continue in future
generations.

“There are good reasons within the society for the operation to
continue, but these are cultural reasons. They are not scientific
ones,” says Prof. Boddy, author of Civilizing Women: British Crusades
in Colonial Sudan.

Working through British and Sudanese archives, she looks at the history
of FGC in that country, particularly European colonial interactions
with the practice, from British nurses attempting to re-educate
Sudanese midwives in the 1920s, to the country’s outlawing of the
practice in 1946 amid Western pressure.

“It isn’t a happy situation by any means. I wouldn’t want it to
continue. But I think that up until this point, the West has not been
particularly helpful in the way that it’s gone about trying to assist
in the eradication,” Prof. Boddy says.

Prevalent in, though not exclusive to, Muslim societies, particularly
in Sudan, Somalia, northern Kenya and parts of Ethiopia and Indonesia,
female genital mutilation takes on its most severe form in
infibulation, or pharaonic circumcision.

This can involve the removal of both the clitoris and inner labia with
crude instruments such as razors. The entire vagina is then sewn up
with thread, or fastened with thorns.

In this way, a woman’s virginity — considered especially important by
Muslim men–can be proven before her father is paid the bride price.

The Sudanese, Prof. Boddy argues, are a fiercely guarded culture, one
that sees the practice as a defence of their people against intruders,
and, astonishingly, as protection against injury.

“The cultural context in which this practice takes place supports the
idea of enclosing the body against harm,” she writes in her book. The
social body is closed against intrusion from the outside by marriages
between relatives. People marry cousins … The kinship system is quite
closed. That image of the defensive society, the defensive social body,
is carried over into this idea of defending the physical body.

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CRA [the Canadian Tax Dept.equivalent of IRS] convicted yet another Montreal
Synagogue Convicted for massive TAX FRAUD- Will CRA Now Charge &
Convict McVay & BB For Similar TAX FRAUD?

Canadian Jew News have a banner headline story covering half a page, on page
35 of the issue for April 10 2008.

Canada Revenue Agency [CRA] convicted the Montreal synagogue Congregation
Adath Israel Poale Zedek Anshei Ozeroff, and they were also fined almost HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS FOR TAX FRAUD!!

According to documents made public by CRA, the synagogue had issued fraudulent
charitable donation receipts worth almost $400,000 in the fiscal year ending
in 2005.

In addition to the huge fine, the synagogue has now also lost status as a
registered charity, and can no longer issue charitable donation receipts.

This synagogue had been previously audited in 2002, and had been warned at
that time.
This synagogue had been giving false charitable donation receipts for
fraudulent items such as membership fees, cemetery plots and the services of
the nursery school.

Now that CRA have finally got some balls in prosecuting for TAX FRAUD, it will
be only a matter of days before B’nai Brith will also get convicted, in
connection with their MONEY LAUNDERING FOR KEN MCVAY,
THEIR ISSUING OF FRAUDULENT CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS
for payments to Ken McVays BUSINESS!!

Ken McVay and his huge tax swindle, CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING
TAX FRAUD involving the collusion of senior management at B’nai Brith,
is now being exposed by Canadian Jew News, week after week, and is
now a major cause of B’Nai Brith Canada Breaking Up!!

No wonder CRA & IRS are also very interested!

McVay can not call all the news stories false, since they are carried
in the leading jew newspaper in Canada, Canadian Jew News, week
after week with more and more prominent jews in BB demanding details !

Rumor is that CJN is now investigating further, with CRA, IRS,
BB executives, as well as RCMP and FBI regarding McVay’s
CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH COLLUSION OF BB
AND ALSO MAZAL’S SAAF!!

It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting
up a new jew charity group.

Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide
audited financial statements before the AGM, as required. Members
are concerned about what is happening to all the funds collected.

For example, isn’t the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS
RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay ILLEGAL?

Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Gimpel has stated that”problems really started when we stopped
getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs”

“Everything was manipulated.”

We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith.
How is that money used?
Where does it go?
We don’t know.”

No wonder Ken McVay does not want this publicised!

Now, in the issue of Canadian Jew News for January 17 2008,
there is a 2 page banner headline story about the ongoing
problems at B’nai Brith Canada caused by this scandal.

On pages 6 and 17 of this issue, is a huge article about the existing
managers of BB wanting to remove as members the dissident past
presidents and long time members, who have been questioning the
mismanagement and financial irregularities.

Many of the past executives now want the whole mess to go to Court,
so that the public will get proof of the irregularities, such as
ILLEGAL CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS FOR PAYMENTS
TO McVAY’S BUSINESS!!

McVay TAX FRAUD Causing B’Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!!
Also, it is stimulating Canadian & USA Tax FRAUD Investigations!
Full text of article follows at bottom of comments.
The article is from the JEW newspaper, so it must be true!

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:15:02 -0800, in can.politics Greg Carr
wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:35:11 -0700, SteveHorn
wrote:

Canadian Jew News had a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major
scandal involving the current BB Canada managers.

Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE,even if it does expose crooks!!

Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
executives of BB are very concerned.

JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND
A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING
AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?

JEWS ARE INDICTED FOR TAX FRAUD IN AMERICA:
http://www.pgdc.com/usa/item/?itemID=932870
Thursday, January 10, 2008 Posted: 1:42 AM EST
Religious Leader and Others Indicted on Charitable Contribution Scheme; Other
Tax Fraud

A federal grand jury has handed down a 37-count indictment against the head of
a religious organization and related parties for conspiracy to defraud the
United States and agencies thereof. The numerous allegations include a
fraudulent charitable contribution and kickback scheme that resulted in
claimed deductions of up to 20 times the amount actually contributed,
international money laundering, mail and wire fraud, and filing false income
tax returns.

BROOKLYN RABBI AND SEVERAL ASSOCIATES CHARGED IN
SOPHISTICATED TAX FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEME
——————————————————————————————————-
THE ABOVE CON-GAME MIRRORS WHAT B’NAI BRITH DOES WITH
NIZKOR.ORG RUN BY CONFIDENCE MAN KENNETH NEAL MCVAY.

Canadian Jewish News
Battle brewing at B’nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO – A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai
Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC’s head office in Toronto. …

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.
“Everything was manipulated,” he said.

“We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.”

[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
“NIZKOR.ORG and B’nai Brith’s Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam”
Message-ID:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
“Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?”
Message-ID: <[email protected]> ]

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26
Itemid%3D86+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl
=us&lr=lang_en

Kenneth McVay’s American money laundering operation exposed;
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
“The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund? (It’s illegal for one thing!)”
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
“Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry”
Message-ID: [email protected]

B’NAI BRITH, SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION AND NIZKOR.ORG SHOULD ALL
BE SHUT DOWN AND THE PERPETRATORS IN EACH INSTITUTION MUST BE
PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. THEIR TAX EVASIONS SCHEMES
ARE CRIMES AGAINST THE WORKING PEOPLE; CRIMES WHICH SHOULD NOT
GO UNPUNISHED.

JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT
NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM?
IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

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>Canadian Jew News had a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
>[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major
>scandal involving the current BB Canada managers.

>Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
>Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE!!

So stupid why didn’t you show the url?
The entire original article is below, cretin.

>No wonder honest jews are incenced!

>It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
>are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting
>up a new jew charity group.

>Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide
>audited financial statements before the AGM, as required. members
>are concerned about what is happening to all the funds collected.

>For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS
>RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL?

Ken McVay uber alles.

>Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
>group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Battle brewing at B’nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007
TORONTO — A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai
Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC’s head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves “concerned members of
B’nai Brith Canada” have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
“BBC news without the spin.” Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group’s goal is to “end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community.” The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC’s board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group’s concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC’s head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization’s corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC’s executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization’s
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B’nai Brith
International’s (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC’s parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization’s head office in Toronto and
the service group’s 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization’s
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

“Everything was manipulated,” he said.

“We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.”

Gimpel suggested B’nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive – perhaps even a
“breakaway” by some. “They’re getting more and more fed up. There’s
been talk about it,” he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl – both BBC past presidents – said
they want to see B’nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don’t know or don’t care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don’t realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC “still
does good work,” he said.

What he is after is reform.

“I’m not trying to destroy the organization,” he said. “I’m trying to
get some accountability and transparency.”

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

“We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B’nai Brith to realize what’s going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization,” he said.

Dimant stated that BBI’s appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that “all the accusations have been
debunked.”

“This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community,” he said.

Dimant said B’nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: “Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B’nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body’s full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B’nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed.”

Dimant said despite the court’s finding, “you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small.”

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC’s Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, “we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn’t happen the way
they remembered.

“My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community,” he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it “a
travesty of justice.”

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC’s membership might eventually leave the organization.

“I give B’nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up… The lodges will be gone.”

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

In other words at worst only 20% will leave. Jews argue it is well
documented in the Bible. One person has a complaint and no one else of
the Jewish faith is backing him.

>Gimpel has stated that”problems really started when we stopped
>getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs”

>”Everything was manipulated.”

>We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith.
>How is that money used?
>Where does it go?
>We don’t know.”

>Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
>ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
>fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
>executives of BB are very concerned.

>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
>for JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
>no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
>Christkiller ZHIDS!!

The Romans killed the LORD not Jews. You Nazis don’t even tithe.
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org

Does he still clean the toilets of Turks?
>IHR – www.ihr.org

>Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org

Under constant FBI surveillance and the SCPL as well.
>OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

>THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
> Subscribe: [email protected]
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Canadian Jewish News
Battle Brewing at B’nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO – A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai
Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC’s head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves “concerned members of
B’nai Brith Canada” have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
“BBC news without the spin.” Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group’s goal is to “end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community.” The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC’s board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group’s concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC’s head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization’s corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC’s executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization’s
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B’nai Brith
International’s (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC’s parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization’s head office in Toronto and
the service group’s 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization’s
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

“Everything was manipulated,” he said.

“We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.”

[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
“NIZKOR.ORG and B’nai Brith’s Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam”
Message-ID:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
“Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?”
Message-ID: <[email protected]> ]

Gimpel suggested B’nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive – perhaps even a
“breakaway” by some. “They’re getting more and more fed up. There’s
been talk about it,” he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl – both BBC past presidents – said
they want to see B’nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don’t know or don’t care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don’t realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC “still
does good work,” he said.

What he is after is reform.

“I’m not trying to destroy the organization,” he said. “I’m trying to
get some accountability and transparency.”

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

“We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B’nai Brith to realize what’s going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization,” he said.

Dimant stated that BBI’s appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that “all the accusations have been
debunked.”

“This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community,” he said.

Dimant said B’nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: “Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B’nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body’s full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B’nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed.”

Dimant said despite the court’s finding, “you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small.”

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC’s Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, “we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn’t happen the way
they remembered.

“My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community,” he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it “a
travesty of justice.”

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC’s membership might eventually leave the organization.

“I give B’nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up. The lodges will be gone.”

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26Itemid%3D86
+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&lr=lang_en

Kenneth McVay’s American money laundering operation exposed;

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
“The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund? (It’s illegal for one thing!)”
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
“Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry”
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Even the past executives of BB did not know about the FRAUD INVOLVING PAYMENTS
TO KEN McVAY, and the issuing of fraudulent charitable donation receipts for
payments to McVay’s one man BUSINESS!!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
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CRA [the Canadian Tax Dept.equivalent of IRS] convicted yet another Montreal
Synagogue Convicted for massive TAX FRAUD- Will CRA Now Charge &
Convict McVay & BB For Similar TAX FRAUD?

Canadian Jew News have a banner headline story covering half a page, on page
35 of the issue for April 10 2008.

Canada Revenue Agency [CRA] convicted the Montreal synagogue Congregation
Adath Israel Poale Zedek Anshei Ozeroff, and they were also fined almost HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS FOR TAX FRAUD!!

According to documents made public by CRA, the synagogue had issued fraudulent
charitable donation receipts worth almost $400,000 in the fiscal year ending
in 2005.

In addition to the huge fine, the synagogue has now also lost status as a
registered charity, and can no longer issue charitable donation receipts.

This synagogue had been previously audited in 2002, and had been warned at
that time.
This synagogue had been giving false charitable donation receipts for
fraudulent items such as membership fees, cemetery plots and the services of
the nursery school.

Now that CRA have finally got some balls in prosecuting for TAX FRAUD, it will
be only a matter of days before B’nai Brith will also get convicted, in
connection with their MONEY LAUNDERING FOR KEN MCVAY,
THEIR ISSUING OF FRAUDULENT CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS
for payments to Ken McVays BUSINESS!!

Ken McVay and his huge tax swindle, CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING
TAX FRAUD involving the collusion of senior management at B’nai Brith,
is now being exposed by Canadian Jew News, week after week, and is
now a major cause of B’Nai Brith Canada Breaking Up!!

No wonder CRA & IRS are also very interested!

McVay can not call all the news stories false, since they are carried
in the leading jew newspaper in Canada, Canadian Jew News, week
after week with more and more prominent jews in BB demanding details !

Rumor is that CJN is now investigating further, with CRA, IRS,
BB executives, as well as RCMP and FBI regarding McVay’s
CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH COLLUSION OF BB
AND ALSO MAZAL’S SAAF!!

It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting
up a new jew charity group.

Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide
audited financial statements before the AGM, as required. Members
are concerned about what is happening to all the funds collected.

For example, isn’t the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS
RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay ILLEGAL?

Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Gimpel has stated that”problems really started when we stopped
getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs”

“Everything was manipulated.”

We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith.
How is that money used?
Where does it go?
We don’t know.”

No wonder Ken McVay does not want this publicised!

Now, in the issue of Canadian Jew News for January 17 2008,
there is a 2 page banner headline story about the ongoing
problems at B’nai Brith Canada caused by this scandal.

On pages 6 and 17 of this issue, is a huge article about the existing
managers of BB wanting to remove as members the dissident past
presidents and long time members, who have been questioning the
mismanagement and financial irregularities.

Many of the past executives now want the whole mess to go to Court,
so that the public will get proof of the irregularities, such as
ILLEGAL CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS FOR PAYMENTS
TO McVAY’S BUSINESS!!

McVay TAX FRAUD Causing B’Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!!
Also, it is stimulating Canadian & USA Tax FRAUD Investigations!
Full text of article follows at bottom of comments.
The article is from the JEW newspaper, so it must be true!

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:15:02 -0800, in can.politics Greg Carr
wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:35:11 -0700, SteveHorn
wrote:

Canadian Jew News had a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major
scandal involving the current BB Canada managers.

Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE,even if it does expose crooks!!

Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
executives of BB are very concerned.

JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND
A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING
AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?

JEWS ARE INDICTED FOR TAX FRAUD IN AMERICA:
http://www.pgdc.com/usa/item/?itemID=932870
Thursday, January 10, 2008 Posted: 1:42 AM EST
Religious Leader and Others Indicted on Charitable Contribution Scheme; Other
Tax Fraud

A federal grand jury has handed down a 37-count indictment against the head of
a religious organization and related parties for conspiracy to defraud the
United States and agencies thereof. The numerous allegations include a
fraudulent charitable contribution and kickback scheme that resulted in
claimed deductions of up to 20 times the amount actually contributed,
international money laundering, mail and wire fraud, and filing false income
tax returns.

BROOKLYN RABBI AND SEVERAL ASSOCIATES CHARGED IN
SOPHISTICATED TAX FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEME
——————————————————————————————————-
THE ABOVE CON-GAME MIRRORS WHAT B’NAI BRITH DOES WITH
NIZKOR.ORG RUN BY CONFIDENCE MAN KENNETH NEAL MCVAY.

Canadian Jewish News
Battle brewing at B’nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO – A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai
Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC’s head office in Toronto. …

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.
“Everything was manipulated,” he said.

“We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.”

[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
“NIZKOR.ORG and B’nai Brith’s Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam”
Message-ID:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
“Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?”
Message-ID: <[email protected]> ]

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26
Itemid%3D86+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl
=us&lr=lang_en

Kenneth McVay’s American money laundering operation exposed;
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
“The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund? (It’s illegal for one thing!)”
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
“Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry”
Message-ID: [email protected]

B’NAI BRITH, SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION AND NIZKOR.ORG SHOULD ALL
BE SHUT DOWN AND THE PERPETRATORS IN EACH INSTITUTION MUST BE
PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. THEIR TAX EVASIONS SCHEMES
ARE CRIMES AGAINST THE WORKING PEOPLE; CRIMES WHICH SHOULD NOT
GO UNPUNISHED.

JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT
NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM?
IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

Reply-To: Frank Arthur – [email protected],
or to Steve Horn – [email protected],
or [email protected]
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>Canadian Jew News had a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
>[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major
>scandal involving the current BB Canada managers.

>Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
>Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE!!

So stupid why didn’t you show the url?
The entire original article is below, cretin.

>No wonder honest jews are incenced!

>It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
>are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting
>up a new jew charity group.

>Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide
>audited financial statements before the AGM, as required. members
>are concerned about what is happening to all the funds collected.

>For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS
>RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL?

Ken McVay uber alles.

>Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
>group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Battle brewing at B’nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007
TORONTO — A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai
Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC’s head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves “concerned members of
B’nai Brith Canada” have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
“BBC news without the spin.” Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group’s goal is to “end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community.” The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC’s board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group’s concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC’s head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization’s corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC’s executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization’s
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B’nai Brith
International’s (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC’s parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization’s head office in Toronto and
the service group’s 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization’s
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

“Everything was manipulated,” he said.

“We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.”

Gimpel suggested B’nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive – perhaps even a
“breakaway” by some. “They’re getting more and more fed up. There’s
been talk about it,” he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl – both BBC past presidents – said
they want to see B’nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don’t know or don’t care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don’t realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC “still
does good work,” he said.

What he is after is reform.

“I’m not trying to destroy the organization,” he said. “I’m trying to
get some accountability and transparency.”

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

“We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B’nai Brith to realize what’s going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization,” he said.

Dimant stated that BBI’s appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that “all the accusations have been
debunked.”

“This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community,” he said.

Dimant said B’nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: “Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B’nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body’s full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B’nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed.”

Dimant said despite the court’s finding, “you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small.”

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC’s Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, “we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn’t happen the way
they remembered.

“My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community,” he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it “a
travesty of justice.”

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC’s membership might eventually leave the organization.

“I give B’nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up… The lodges will be gone.”

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

In other words at worst only 20% will leave. Jews argue it is well
documented in the Bible. One person has a complaint and no one else of
the Jewish faith is backing him.

>Gimpel has stated that”problems really started when we stopped
>getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs”

>”Everything was manipulated.”

>We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith.
>How is that money used?
>Where does it go?
>We don’t know.”

>Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
>ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
>fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
>executives of BB are very concerned.

>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
>for JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
>no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
>Christkiller ZHIDS!!

The Romans killed the LORD not Jews. You Nazis don’t even tithe.
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org

Does he still clean the toilets of Turks?
>IHR – www.ihr.org

>Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org

Under constant FBI surveillance and the SCPL as well.
>OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

>THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
> Subscribe: [email protected]
>Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
>Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

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From: [email protected]
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 21:10:15 +0000 (UTC)

Canadian Jewish News
Battle Brewing at B’nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO – A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai
Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC’s head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves “concerned members of
B’nai Brith Canada” have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
“BBC news without the spin.” Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group’s goal is to “end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community.” The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC’s board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group’s concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC’s head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization’s corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC’s executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization’s
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B’nai Brith
International’s (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC’s parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization’s head office in Toronto and
the service group’s 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization’s
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

“Everything was manipulated,” he said.

“We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.”

[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
“NIZKOR.ORG and B’nai Brith’s Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam”
Message-ID:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
“Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?”
Message-ID: <[email protected]> ]

Gimpel suggested B’nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive – perhaps even a
“breakaway” by some. “They’re getting more and more fed up. There’s
been talk about it,” he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl – both BBC past presidents – said
they want to see B’nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don’t know or don’t care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don’t realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC “still
does good work,” he said.

What he is after is reform.

“I’m not trying to destroy the organization,” he said. “I’m trying to
get some accountability and transparency.”

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

“We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B’nai Brith to realize what’s going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization,” he said.

Dimant stated that BBI’s appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that “all the accusations have been
debunked.”

“This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community,” he said.

Dimant said B’nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: “Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B’nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body’s full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B’nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed.”

Dimant said despite the court’s finding, “you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small.”

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC’s Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, “we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn’t happen the way
they remembered.

“My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community,” he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it “a
travesty of justice.”

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC’s membership might eventually leave the organization.

“I give B’nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up. The lodges will be gone.”

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26Itemid%3D86
+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&lr=lang_en

Kenneth McVay’s American money laundering operation exposed;

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
“The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund? (It’s illegal for one thing!)”
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
“Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry”
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Even the past executives of BB did not know about the FRAUD INVOLVING PAYMENTS
TO KEN McVAY, and the issuing of fraudulent charitable donation receipts for
payments to McVay’s one man BUSINESS!!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

Reply-To: Frank Arthur – [email protected],
or to Steve Horn – [email protected],
or [email protected]
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From [email protected] Tue May 6 10:33:46 EDT 2008
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Yes folks , I am the real Cranky Frank Arthur – sometimes alias Grosvenor –
also alias Gay Ken McVay, and even alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

I am the filthy fraud who changes names every few minutes,
because I am truly certifiably insane.

I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a “grosvenor”!
Now, I even claim that some of the “grosvenors” are now “mirelles”

Frank Arthur [me] sometimes I post using Bellsouth Internet Group,
except when I post using remailers, anonymously, to confuse people.

I am the fraud Grosvenor [again me] and I often use anonymous remailers.
Sometimes as Grosvenor , or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or Yitzhak Goldstein.
I often post to alt.homosexual – just to satisfy my need!

The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for years, so I stole his name to
annoy him, and also readers!

Many people believe that I am really gay Ken McVay the disgusting
pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my
ZYD benefactors stopped financing all the BS and my one person
web business.

All entries below collated from various sources and are
public domain.

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE
ATLANTA, GA 30315
(770) 739-6508

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2
wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who
changes names every 5 minutes.
Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me] is just another common thief.
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries.
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
[email protected],GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud
There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me.

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?

>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
>you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit,
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray
tab:

Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

Reply-To: Frank Arthur – [email protected],
or to Steve Horn – [email protected],
or [email protected]
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Canadian Jew News have a half page headline story in the issue for
March 6 2008, detailing the criminal conviction of Winnipeg lawyer
Gary Dolovich for possessing and distributing KIDDIE PORNOGRAPHY!

Dolovich, an alleged observant ZYD, was arrested in 2006 and then
charged with 17 charges for distributing child pornography over
the internet.

Sentencing will be this spring, and he is expected to get a heavy
jail term, in accord with his criminality.

Police in Winnipeg had been alerted to Dolovich by a national police
organisation involved in prosecuting kiddie porn distributors.

This case is reminiscent of the Cantor Stuart Friedman case from
Halifax, where Friedman was distributing kiddie porn from the synagogue!!
Instead of jail, he was allowed to flee to Boston, USA, where he
supposedly assisted the FBI by turning informant on his fellow perverts.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

Reply-To: Frank Arthur – [email protected],
or to Steve Horn – [email protected],
or [email protected]

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Yes indeed , I am indeed Frank Arthur – sometimes alias Grosvenor –
also alias Gay Ken McVay, and even alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE
ATLANTA, GA 30315
(770) 739-6508

I am the filthy fraud who changes names every few minutes,
because I am truly certifiably insane.

I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a “grosvenor”!
Now, I even claim that some of the “grosvenors” are now “mirelles”

Frank Arthur [me] sometimes I post using Bellsouth Internet Group,
except when I post using remailers, anonymously, to confuse people.

I am the fraud Grosvenor [again me] and I often use anonymous remailers.
Sometimes as Grosvenor , or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or Yitzhak Goldstein.
I often post to alt.homosexual – just to satisfy my need!

The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for years, so I stole his name to
annoy him, and also readers!

Many people believe that I am really gay Ken McVay the disgusting
pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my
ZYD benefactors stopped financing all the BS and my one person
web business.

All entries below collated from various sources and are
public domain.

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2
wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who
changes names every 5 minutes.
Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me] is just another common thief.
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries.
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
[email protected],GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud
There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me.

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?

>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
>you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit,
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray
tab:

Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

Reply-To: Frank Arthur – [email protected],
or to Steve Horn – [email protected],
or [email protected]
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From: “Gnostic”
Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted,
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General’s Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva
and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail — and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood — practically a city onto itself — are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing — garbage
bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: “Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka.”

A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions — or even thousands — of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn’t seem like it’s
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General’s
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman
from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe
Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed — a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants’ lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year — what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money
to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O’Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

“There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would
be
the subject of government investigations,” O’Brien said.

While O’Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took
in
about $750,000 through the scheme — then writing receipts for $8.7
million — in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud
has
been going on for decades: “I believe this goes on beyond living memory,”
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been
accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government — aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in
Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles’ ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city’s prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of
behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious
community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there’s also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case — though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.

THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and “expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other
criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced,” according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
“confidential witness (CW-1)” and the recent grand jury indictment refers
to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which “he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka,” he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer’s contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

“Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission’s case,” according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a
device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe’s gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: “The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money.”

“How much?” Zigelman asked.

“Possibly one, one and a half,” Kasirer said.

“Million?” Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn’t have
the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he’d lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

“What is SEC?” Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, “Yes, yes, but you don’t have to
give it to them.”

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of
the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.

CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his “donations” back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer’s money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer’s house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the “donation” was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no “goods” or “services” in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi — which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles — to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor — the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large — is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a
company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be “held in confidence
by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the
Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs — tax matters are not an issue.” Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

“So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before,” Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer’s name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he’d take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed
Israeli
bank, “so I can use the money here.” Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O’Brien.

“We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. — the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe
there
are multiple agents involved,” O’Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, “who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy,” O’Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father — the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los
Angeles
and is known as a “stalwart” of the Jewish community — was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, “It’s not something you started.”

Kasirer replied, “I was really not aware of what he did with my father.”

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

“RK’s father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it,” O’Brien
said in an interview. “We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that — beyond living memory.”

CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

“There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government,” said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it’s not just the Jews, he claimed, “churches do the
same
thing.” Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns —
although many do — and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

“Nobody here owns a yacht,” a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then — as with many such institutional fraud cases — that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone’s pockets, it’s not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

“The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent
to
50 percent of someone’s income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from
going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah,” one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for “What Is News?”) blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding
that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, “Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities.” Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

“The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the
country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice,” he
wrote.

Some prisons — especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami — have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. “The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside
of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling.”

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

“Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah’s commitment to honesty in one’s interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth,” he wrote

DON’T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case — both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts — has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was — an informant who
turned state’s evidence to save his own skin — but what they wanted to
know
was what was he? Was he a moser — an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to “the world to come.”

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim — Orthodox rabbinic deciders — there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis
say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners
than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. “These rules apply
only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person’s
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person’s body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself,” it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, (“Laying the Table,” a book about Jewish law written in the
late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in “Dinnai Mamonut” (“Laws of Money”) says informing is
prohibited. “All rules of informing are applicable even currently …. Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people.”

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others — a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be “permitted” to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

“There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law,” May said. “Having said that, it doesn’t justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants].”

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
“everybody does it” and “we pay more taxes than everyone else,” that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. “Our business is the integrity [of the individual],” he said.
“Something which is wrong is wrong.”

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser — which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God’s
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

“To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,”
Cohen wrote.

BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 — not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes — all waiting for the morning’s arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn’t converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books — either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms — and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an
hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start — not because of the
upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate — but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and
most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin’s
synagogue in Hancock Park — which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use — and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a
few
men walked out in protest.

“As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong,” one person who left quietly said later. “I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat,” but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
“one stage less than normal” to show children “that it’s not business as
usual.”

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to
have
the charges read to them.

“How do you plead?” Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: “Not guilty.”

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead
his
congregation. He’s free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

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Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!!
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Mcvay and his one fag business Nizkor, [where only gay McVay
gets paid there], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged
in completely Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds!

They are being considered for prosecution in both USA & Canada!

Proof is from McVay’s & Harry Mazal’s own postings detailing his money
laundering!

Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities.

With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!

No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam!

Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay’s criminality and
money being laundered:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally
Owned and Controlled by Jews v3.0 U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
Message-ID:

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID:
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund — Some New
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
——————————AND——————————-
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0 Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID:
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?
You All be the Judges! V2-0
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
(Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two “bogus” funds!)
Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his
defense of McVay; he’s evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis’ Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay’s Address AND Ken
Lewis Benefitting from McVay’s
Funding Scams? V2.0 T_1227
Message-ID:
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B’nai Brith’s Apparent Funding Kick Backs and
Tax Scam V2.0
Message-ID:
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
(The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and
currently perpetrated by B’nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay’s Nizkor Project in which B’nai Brith launders exempt
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant

From [email protected] Tue May 6 10:33:51 EDT 2008
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From: Frank Arthur
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.palestine,alt.homosexuality
Subject: Frank Arthur=alias Grosvenor=Gay Ken McVay – Invites Calls & Visits
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Yes indeed , I am indeed Frank Arthur – sometimes alias Grosvenor –
also alias Gay Ken McVay, and even alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE
ATLANTA, GA 30315
(770) 739-6508

Frank Arthur sometimes posts via Bellsouth Internet Group
The fraud Grosvenor [me] uses anonymous remailers.
Grosvomit often posts to alt.homosexual- my need!
I don’t use my degenerate father’s name because I am ashamed of
him so I steal other’s names, from gravestones, or internet.

I am the filthy fraud who changes names every few minutes,
because I am truly certifiably insane.

I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a “grosvenor”!
Now, I even claim that some of the “grosvenors” are now “mirelles”

Frank Arthur [me] sometimes I post using Bellsouth Internet Group,
except when I post using remailers, anonymously, to confuse people.

I am the fraud Grosvenor [again me] and I often use anonymous remailers.
Sometimes as Grosvenor , or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or Yitzhak Goldstein.
I often post to alt.homosexual – just to satisfy my need!

The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for years, so I stole his name to
annoy him, and also readers!

Many people believe that I am really gay Ken McVay the disgusting
pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my
ZYD benefactors stopped financing all the BS and my one person
web business.

All entries below collated from various sources and are
public domain.

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2
wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who
changes names every 5 minutes.
Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me] is just another common thief.
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries.
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
[email protected],GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud
There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me.

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?

>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
>you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit,
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray
tab:

Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

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or to Steve Horn – [email protected],
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From [email protected] Tue May 6 10:33:55 EDT 2008
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From: Frank Arthur
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine
Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!!
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Mcvay and his one fag business Nizkor, [where only McVay
gets paid there], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged
in completely Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds!

They are being considered for prosecution in both USA & Canada!

Proof is from McVay’s & Harry Mazal’s own postings detailing his money
laundering!

Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities.

With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!

No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam!

Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay’s criminality and
money being laundered:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally
Owned and Controlled by Jews v3.0 U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
Message-ID:

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID:
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund — Some New
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
——————————AND——————————-
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0 Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID:
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?
You All be the Judges! V2-0
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
(Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two “bogus” funds!)
Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his
defense of McVay; he’s evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis’ Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay’s Address AND Ken
Lewis Benefitting from McVay’s
Funding Scams? V2.0 T_1227
Message-ID:
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B’nai Brith’s Apparent Funding Kick Backs and
Tax Scam V2.0
Message-ID:
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
(The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and
currently perpetrated by B’nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay’s Nizkor Project in which B’nai Brith launders exempt
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant

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From: “Gnostic”
Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted,
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General’s Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail — and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood — practically a city onto itself — are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing — garbage bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: “Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka.”

A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions — or even thousands — of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn’t seem like it’s
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General’s
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed — a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants’ lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year — what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O’Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

“There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would be
the subject of government investigations,” O’Brien said.

While O’Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took in
about $750,000 through the scheme — then writing receipts for $8.7
million — in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud has
been going on for decades: “I believe this goes on beyond living memory,”
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government — aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles’ ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city’s prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there’s also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case — though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.

THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and “expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced,” according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
“confidential witness (CW-1)” and the recent grand jury indictment refers to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which “he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka,” he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer’s contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

“Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission’s case,” according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe’s gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: “The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money.”

“How much?” Zigelman asked.

“Possibly one, one and a half,” Kasirer said.

“Million?” Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn’t have the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he’d lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

“What is SEC?” Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, “Yes, yes, but you don’t have to
give it to them.”

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.

CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his “donations” back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer’s money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer’s house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the “donation” was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no “goods” or “services” in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi — which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles — to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor — the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large — is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be “held in confidence by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs — tax matters are not an issue.” Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

“So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before,” Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer’s name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he’d take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed Israeli
bank, “so I can use the money here.” Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O’Brien.

“We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. — the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe there
are multiple agents involved,” O’Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, “who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy,” O’Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father — the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los Angeles
and is known as a “stalwart” of the Jewish community — was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, “It’s not something you started.”

Kasirer replied, “I was really not aware of what he did with my father.”

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

“RK’s father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it,” O’Brien
said in an interview. “We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that — beyond living memory.”

CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

“There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government,” said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it’s not just the Jews, he claimed, “churches do the same
thing.” Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns —
although many do — and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

“Nobody here owns a yacht,” a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then — as with many such institutional fraud cases — that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone’s pockets, it’s not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

“The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent to
50 percent of someone’s income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah,” one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for “What Is News?”) blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, “Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities.” Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

“The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice,” he
wrote.

Some prisons — especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami — have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. “The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling.”

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

“Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah’s commitment to honesty in one’s interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth,” he wrote

DON’T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case — both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts — has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was — an informant who
turned state’s evidence to save his own skin — but what they wanted to know
was what was he? Was he a moser — an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to “the world to come.”

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim — Orthodox rabbinic deciders — there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. “These rules apply only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person’s
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person’s body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself,” it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, (“Laying the Table,” a book about Jewish law written in the late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in “Dinnai Mamonut” (“Laws of Money”) says informing is
prohibited. “All rules of informing are applicable even currently …. Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people.”

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others — a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be “permitted” to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

“There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law,” May said. “Having said that, it doesn’t justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants].”

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
“everybody does it” and “we pay more taxes than everyone else,” that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. “Our business is the integrity [of the individual],” he said.
“Something which is wrong is wrong.”

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser — which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God’s
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

“To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,”
Cohen wrote.

BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 — not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes — all waiting for the morning’s arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn’t converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books — either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms — and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start — not because of the upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate — but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin’s
synagogue in Hancock Park — which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use — and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a few
men walked out in protest.

“As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong,” one person who left quietly said later. “I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat,” but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
“one stage less than normal” to show children “that it’s not business as
usual.”

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to have
the charges read to them.

“How do you plead?” Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: “Not guilty.”

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead his
congregation. He’s free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B’nai Brith!!

From [email protected] Tue May 6 10:33:59 EDT 2008
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From: Frank Arthur
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Yes indeed , I am misbegotten Frank Arthur – sometimes alias Grosvenor –
also alias Gay Ken McVay, and even alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE
ATLANTA, GA 30315
(770) 739-6508

Frank Arthur sometimes posts via Bellsouth Internet Group
The fraud Grosvenor [me] uses anonymous remailers.
Grosvomit often posts to alt.homosexual- my need!
I don’t use my degenerate father’s name because I am ashamed of
him so I steal other’s names, from gravestones, or internet.

I am the filthy fraud who changes names every few minutes,
because I am truly certifiably insane.

I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a “grosvenor”!
Now, I even claim that some of the “grosvenors” are now “mirelles”

Frank Arthur [me] sometimes I post using Bellsouth Internet Group,
except when I post using remailers, anonymously, to confuse people.

I am the fraud Grosvenor [again me] and I often use anonymous remailers.
Sometimes as Grosvenor , or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or Yitzhak Goldstein.
I often post to alt.homosexual – just to satisfy my need!

The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for years, so I stole his name to
annoy him, and also readers!

Many people believe that I am really gay Ken McVay the disgusting
pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my
ZYD benefactors stopped financing all the BS and my one person
web business.

All entries below collated from various sources and are
public domain.

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2
wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who
changes names every 5 minutes.
Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me] is just another common thief.
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries.
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
[email protected],GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud
There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me.

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?

>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
>you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit,
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray
tab:

Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic

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From: “Gnostic”
Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted,
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General’s Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail — and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood — practically a city onto itself — are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing — garbage bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: “Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka.”

A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions — or even thousands — of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn’t seem like it’s
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General’s
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed — a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants’ lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year — what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O’Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

“There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would be
the subject of government investigations,” O’Brien said.

While O’Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took in
about $750,000 through the scheme — then writing receipts for $8.7
million — in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud has
been going on for decades: “I believe this goes on beyond living memory,”
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government — aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles’ ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city’s prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there’s also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case — though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.

THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and “expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced,” according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
“confidential witness (CW-1)” and the recent grand jury indictment refers to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which “he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka,” he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer’s contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

“Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission’s case,” according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe’s gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: “The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money.”

“How much?” Zigelman asked.

“Possibly one, one and a half,” Kasirer said.

“Million?” Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn’t have the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he’d lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

“What is SEC?” Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, “Yes, yes, but you don’t have to
give it to them.”

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.

CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his “donations” back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer’s money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer’s house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the “donation” was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no “goods” or “services” in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi — which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles — to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor — the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large — is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be “held in confidence by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs — tax matters are not an issue.” Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

“So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before,” Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer’s name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he’d take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed Israeli
bank, “so I can use the money here.” Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O’Brien.

“We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. — the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe there
are multiple agents involved,” O’Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, “who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy,” O’Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father — the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los Angeles
and is known as a “stalwart” of the Jewish community — was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, “It’s not something you started.”

Kasirer replied, “I was really not aware of what he did with my father.”

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

“RK’s father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it,” O’Brien
said in an interview. “We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that — beyond living memory.”

CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

“There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government,” said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it’s not just the Jews, he claimed, “churches do the same
thing.” Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns —
although many do — and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

“Nobody here owns a yacht,” a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then — as with many such institutional fraud cases — that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone’s pockets, it’s not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

“The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent to
50 percent of someone’s income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah,” one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for “What Is News?”) blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, “Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities.” Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

“The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice,” he
wrote.

Some prisons — especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami — have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. “The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling.”

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

“Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah’s commitment to honesty in one’s interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth,” he wrote

DON’T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case — both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts — has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was — an informant who
turned state’s evidence to save his own skin — but what they wanted to know
was what was he? Was he a moser — an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to “the world to come.”

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim — Orthodox rabbinic deciders — there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. “These rules apply only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person’s
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person’s body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself,” it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, (“Laying the Table,” a book about Jewish law written in the late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in “Dinnai Mamonut” (“Laws of Money”) says informing is
prohibited. “All rules of informing are applicable even currently …. Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people.”

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others — a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be “permitted” to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

“There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law,” May said. “Having said that, it doesn’t justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants].”

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
“everybody does it” and “we pay more taxes than everyone else,” that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. “Our business is the integrity [of the individual],” he said.
“Something which is wrong is wrong.”

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser — which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God’s
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

“To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,”
Cohen wrote.

BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 — not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes — all waiting for the morning’s arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn’t converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books — either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms — and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start — not because of the upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate — but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin’s
synagogue in Hancock Park — which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use — and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a few
men walked out in protest.

“As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong,” one person who left quietly said later. “I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat,” but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
“one stage less than normal” to show children “that it’s not business as
usual.”

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to have
the charges read to them.

“How do you plead?” Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: “Not guilty.”

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead his
congregation. He’s free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B’nai Brith!!

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Yes folks , I am the real Cranky Frank Arthur – sometimes alias Grosvenor –
also alias Gay Ken McVay, and even alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

I am the filthy fraud who changes names every few minutes,
because I am truly certifiably insane.

I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a “grosvenor”!
Now, I even claim that some of the “grosvenors” are now “mirelles”

Frank Arthur [me] sometimes I post using Bellsouth Internet Group,
except when I post using remailers, anonymously, to confuse people.

I am the fraud Grosvenor [again me] and I often use anonymous remailers.
Sometimes as Grosvenor , or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or Yitzhak Goldstein.
I often post to alt.homosexual – just to satisfy my need!

The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for years, so I stole his name to
annoy him, and also readers!

Many people believe that I am really gay Ken McVay the disgusting
pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my
ZYD benefactors stopped financing all the BS and my one person
web business.

All entries below collated from various sources and are
public domain.

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE
ATLANTA, GA 30315
(770) 739-6508

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2
wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who
changes names every 5 minutes.
Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me] is just another common thief.
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries.
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
[email protected],GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud
There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me.

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?

>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
>you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit,
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray
tab:

Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

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Canadian Jew News have a half page headline story in the issue for
March 6 2008, detailing the criminal conviction of Winnipeg lawyer
Gary Dolovich for possessing and distributing KIDDIE PORNOGRAPHY!

Dolovich, an alleged observant ZYD, was arrested in 2006 and then
charged with 17 charges for distributing child pornography over
the internet.

Sentencing will be this spring, and he is expected to get a heavy
jail term, in accord with his criminality.

Police in Winnipeg had been alerted to Dolovich by a national police
organisation involved in prosecuting kiddie porn distributors.

This case is reminiscent of the Cantor Stuart Friedman case from
Halifax, where Friedman was distributing kiddie porn from the synagogue!!
Instead of jail, he was allowed to flee to Boston, USA, where he
supposedly assisted the FBI by turning informant on his fellow perverts.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
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Yes indeed , I am indeed Frank Arthur – sometimes alias Grosvenor –
also alias Gay Ken McVay, and even alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE
ATLANTA, GA 30315
(770) 739-6508

I am the filthy fraud who changes names every few minutes,
because I am truly certifiably insane.

I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a “grosvenor”!
Now, I even claim that some of the “grosvenors” are now “mirelles”

Frank Arthur [me] sometimes I post using Bellsouth Internet Group,
except when I post using remailers, anonymously, to confuse people.

I am the fraud Grosvenor [again me] and I often use anonymous remailers.
Sometimes as Grosvenor , or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or Yitzhak Goldstein.
I often post to alt.homosexual – just to satisfy my need!

The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for years, so I stole his name to
annoy him, and also readers!

Many people believe that I am really gay Ken McVay the disgusting
pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my
ZYD benefactors stopped financing all the BS and my one person
web business.

All entries below collated from various sources and are
public domain.

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2
wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who
changes names every 5 minutes.
Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me] is just another common thief.
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries.
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
[email protected],GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud
There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me.

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?

>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
>you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit,
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray
tab:

Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

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or to Steve Horn – [email protected],
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From: “Gnostic”
Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted,
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General’s Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva
and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail — and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood — practically a city onto itself — are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing — garbage
bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: “Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka.”

A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions — or even thousands — of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn’t seem like it’s
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General’s
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman
from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe
Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed — a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants’ lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year — what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money
to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O’Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

“There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would
be
the subject of government investigations,” O’Brien said.

While O’Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took
in
about $750,000 through the scheme — then writing receipts for $8.7
million — in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud
has
been going on for decades: “I believe this goes on beyond living memory,”
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been
accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government — aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in
Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles’ ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city’s prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of
behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious
community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there’s also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case — though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.

THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and “expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other
criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced,” according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
“confidential witness (CW-1)” and the recent grand jury indictment refers
to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which “he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka,” he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer’s contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

“Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission’s case,” according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a
device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe’s gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: “The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money.”

“How much?” Zigelman asked.

“Possibly one, one and a half,” Kasirer said.

“Million?” Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn’t have
the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he’d lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

“What is SEC?” Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, “Yes, yes, but you don’t have to
give it to them.”

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of
the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.

CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his “donations” back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer’s money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer’s house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the “donation” was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no “goods” or “services” in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi — which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles — to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor — the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large — is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a
company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be “held in confidence
by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the
Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs — tax matters are not an issue.” Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

“So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before,” Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer’s name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he’d take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed
Israeli
bank, “so I can use the money here.” Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O’Brien.

“We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. — the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe
there
are multiple agents involved,” O’Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, “who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy,” O’Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father — the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los
Angeles
and is known as a “stalwart” of the Jewish community — was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, “It’s not something you started.”

Kasirer replied, “I was really not aware of what he did with my father.”

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

“RK’s father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it,” O’Brien
said in an interview. “We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that — beyond living memory.”

CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

“There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government,” said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it’s not just the Jews, he claimed, “churches do the
same
thing.” Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns —
although many do — and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

“Nobody here owns a yacht,” a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then — as with many such institutional fraud cases — that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone’s pockets, it’s not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

“The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent
to
50 percent of someone’s income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from
going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah,” one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for “What Is News?”) blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding
that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, “Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities.” Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

“The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the
country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice,” he
wrote.

Some prisons — especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami — have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. “The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside
of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling.”

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

“Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah’s commitment to honesty in one’s interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth,” he wrote

DON’T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case — both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts — has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was — an informant who
turned state’s evidence to save his own skin — but what they wanted to
know
was what was he? Was he a moser — an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to “the world to come.”

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim — Orthodox rabbinic deciders — there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis
say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners
than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. “These rules apply
only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person’s
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person’s body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself,” it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, (“Laying the Table,” a book about Jewish law written in the
late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in “Dinnai Mamonut” (“Laws of Money”) says informing is
prohibited. “All rules of informing are applicable even currently …. Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people.”

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others — a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be “permitted” to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

“There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law,” May said. “Having said that, it doesn’t justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants].”

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
“everybody does it” and “we pay more taxes than everyone else,” that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. “Our business is the integrity [of the individual],” he said.
“Something which is wrong is wrong.”

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser — which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God’s
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

“To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,”
Cohen wrote.

BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 — not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes — all waiting for the morning’s arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn’t converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books — either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms — and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an
hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start — not because of the
upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate — but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and
most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin’s
synagogue in Hancock Park — which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use — and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a
few
men walked out in protest.

“As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong,” one person who left quietly said later. “I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat,” but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
“one stage less than normal” to show children “that it’s not business as
usual.”

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to
have
the charges read to them.

“How do you plead?” Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: “Not guilty.”

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead
his
congregation. He’s free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B’nai Brith!!

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From: Frank Arthur
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Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!!
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Mcvay and his one fag business Nizkor, [where only gay McVay
gets paid there], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged
in completely Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds!

They are being considered for prosecution in both USA & Canada!

Proof is from McVay’s & Harry Mazal’s own postings detailing his money
laundering!

Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities.

With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!

No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam!

Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay’s criminality and
money being laundered:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally
Owned and Controlled by Jews v3.0 U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
Message-ID:

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID:
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund — Some New
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
——————————AND——————————-
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0 Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID:
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?
You All be the Judges! V2-0
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
(Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two “bogus” funds!)
Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his
defense of McVay; he’s evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis’ Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay’s Address AND Ken
Lewis Benefitting from McVay’s
Funding Scams? V2.0 T_1227
Message-ID:
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B’nai Brith’s Apparent Funding Kick Backs and
Tax Scam V2.0
Message-ID:
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
(The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and
currently perpetrated by B’nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay’s Nizkor Project in which B’nai Brith launders exempt
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant

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Yes indeed , I am indeed Frank Arthur – sometimes alias Grosvenor –
also alias Gay Ken McVay, and even alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE
ATLANTA, GA 30315
(770) 739-6508

Frank Arthur sometimes posts via Bellsouth Internet Group
The fraud Grosvenor [me] uses anonymous remailers.
Grosvomit often posts to alt.homosexual- my need!
I don’t use my degenerate father’s name because I am ashamed of
him so I steal other’s names, from gravestones, or internet.

I am the filthy fraud who changes names every few minutes,
because I am truly certifiably insane.

I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a “grosvenor”!
Now, I even claim that some of the “grosvenors” are now “mirelles”

Frank Arthur [me] sometimes I post using Bellsouth Internet Group,
except when I post using remailers, anonymously, to confuse people.

I am the fraud Grosvenor [again me] and I often use anonymous remailers.
Sometimes as Grosvenor , or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or Yitzhak Goldstein.
I often post to alt.homosexual – just to satisfy my need!

The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for years, so I stole his name to
annoy him, and also readers!

Many people believe that I am really gay Ken McVay the disgusting
pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my
ZYD benefactors stopped financing all the BS and my one person
web business.

All entries below collated from various sources and are
public domain.

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2
wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who
changes names every 5 minutes.
Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me] is just another common thief.
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries.
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
[email protected],GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud
There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me.

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?

>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
>you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit,
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray
tab:

Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

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WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

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IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
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From [email protected] Tue May 6 10:34:16 EDT 2008
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From: Frank Arthur
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine
Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!!
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Mcvay and his one fag business Nizkor, [where only McVay
gets paid there], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged
in completely Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds!

They are being considered for prosecution in both USA & Canada!

Proof is from McVay’s & Harry Mazal’s own postings detailing his money
laundering!

Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities.

With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!

No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam!

Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay’s criminality and
money being laundered:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally
Owned and Controlled by Jews v3.0 U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
Message-ID:

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID:
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund — Some New
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
——————————AND——————————-
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0 Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID:
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?
You All be the Judges! V2-0
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
(Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two “bogus” funds!)
Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his
defense of McVay; he’s evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis’ Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay’s Address AND Ken
Lewis Benefitting from McVay’s
Funding Scams? V2.0 T_1227
Message-ID:
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B’nai Brith’s Apparent Funding Kick Backs and
Tax Scam V2.0
Message-ID:
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
(The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and
currently perpetrated by B’nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay’s Nizkor Project in which B’nai Brith launders exempt
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant

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From: “Gnostic”
Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted,
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General’s Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail — and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood — practically a city onto itself — are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing — garbage bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: “Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka.”

A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions — or even thousands — of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn’t seem like it’s
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General’s
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed — a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants’ lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year — what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O’Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

“There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would be
the subject of government investigations,” O’Brien said.

While O’Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took in
about $750,000 through the scheme — then writing receipts for $8.7
million — in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud has
been going on for decades: “I believe this goes on beyond living memory,”
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government — aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles’ ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city’s prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there’s also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case — though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.

THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and “expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced,” according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
“confidential witness (CW-1)” and the recent grand jury indictment refers to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which “he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka,” he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer’s contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

“Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission’s case,” according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe’s gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: “The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money.”

“How much?” Zigelman asked.

“Possibly one, one and a half,” Kasirer said.

“Million?” Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn’t have the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he’d lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

“What is SEC?” Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, “Yes, yes, but you don’t have to
give it to them.”

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.

CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his “donations” back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer’s money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer’s house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the “donation” was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no “goods” or “services” in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi — which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles — to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor — the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large — is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be “held in confidence by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs — tax matters are not an issue.” Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

“So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before,” Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer’s name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he’d take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed Israeli
bank, “so I can use the money here.” Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O’Brien.

“We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. — the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe there
are multiple agents involved,” O’Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, “who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy,” O’Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father — the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los Angeles
and is known as a “stalwart” of the Jewish community — was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, “It’s not something you started.”

Kasirer replied, “I was really not aware of what he did with my father.”

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

“RK’s father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it,” O’Brien
said in an interview. “We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that — beyond living memory.”

CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

“There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government,” said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it’s not just the Jews, he claimed, “churches do the same
thing.” Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns —
although many do — and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

“Nobody here owns a yacht,” a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then — as with many such institutional fraud cases — that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone’s pockets, it’s not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

“The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent to
50 percent of someone’s income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah,” one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for “What Is News?”) blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, “Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities.” Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

“The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice,” he
wrote.

Some prisons — especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami — have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. “The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling.”

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

“Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah’s commitment to honesty in one’s interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth,” he wrote

DON’T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case — both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts — has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was — an informant who
turned state’s evidence to save his own skin — but what they wanted to know
was what was he? Was he a moser — an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to “the world to come.”

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim — Orthodox rabbinic deciders — there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. “These rules apply only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person’s
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person’s body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself,” it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, (“Laying the Table,” a book about Jewish law written in the late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in “Dinnai Mamonut” (“Laws of Money”) says informing is
prohibited. “All rules of informing are applicable even currently …. Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people.”

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others — a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be “permitted” to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

“There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law,” May said. “Having said that, it doesn’t justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants].”

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
“everybody does it” and “we pay more taxes than everyone else,” that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. “Our business is the integrity [of the individual],” he said.
“Something which is wrong is wrong.”

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser — which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God’s
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

“To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,”
Cohen wrote.

BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 — not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes — all waiting for the morning’s arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn’t converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books — either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms — and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start — not because of the upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate — but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin’s
synagogue in Hancock Park — which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use — and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a few
men walked out in protest.

“As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong,” one person who left quietly said later. “I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat,” but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
“one stage less than normal” to show children “that it’s not business as
usual.”

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to have
the charges read to them.

“How do you plead?” Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: “Not guilty.”

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead his
congregation. He’s free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B’nai Brith!!

From [email protected] Tue May 6 10:34:20 EDT 2008
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Yes indeed , I am misbegotten Frank Arthur – sometimes alias Grosvenor –
also alias Gay Ken McVay, and even alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE
ATLANTA, GA 30315
(770) 739-6508

Frank Arthur sometimes posts via Bellsouth Internet Group
The fraud Grosvenor [me] uses anonymous remailers.
Grosvomit often posts to alt.homosexual- my need!
I don’t use my degenerate father’s name because I am ashamed of
him so I steal other’s names, from gravestones, or internet.

I am the filthy fraud who changes names every few minutes,
because I am truly certifiably insane.

I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a “grosvenor”!
Now, I even claim that some of the “grosvenors” are now “mirelles”

Frank Arthur [me] sometimes I post using Bellsouth Internet Group,
except when I post using remailers, anonymously, to confuse people.

I am the fraud Grosvenor [again me] and I often use anonymous remailers.
Sometimes as Grosvenor , or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or Yitzhak Goldstein.
I often post to alt.homosexual – just to satisfy my need!

The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for years, so I stole his name to
annoy him, and also readers!

Many people believe that I am really gay Ken McVay the disgusting
pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my
ZYD benefactors stopped financing all the BS and my one person
web business.

All entries below collated from various sources and are
public domain.

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2
wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who
changes names every 5 minutes.
Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me] is just another common thief.
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries.
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
[email protected],GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud
There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me.

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?

>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
>you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit,
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray
tab:

Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic

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Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted,
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General’s Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail — and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood — practically a city onto itself — are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing — garbage bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: “Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka.”

A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions — or even thousands — of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn’t seem like it’s
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General’s
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed — a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants’ lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year — what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O’Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

“There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would be
the subject of government investigations,” O’Brien said.

While O’Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took in
about $750,000 through the scheme — then writing receipts for $8.7
million — in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud has
been going on for decades: “I believe this goes on beyond living memory,”
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government — aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles’ ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city’s prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there’s also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case — though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.

THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and “expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced,” according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
“confidential witness (CW-1)” and the recent grand jury indictment refers to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which “he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka,” he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer’s contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

“Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission’s case,” according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe’s gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: “The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money.”

“How much?” Zigelman asked.

“Possibly one, one and a half,” Kasirer said.

“Million?” Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn’t have the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he’d lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

“What is SEC?” Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, “Yes, yes, but you don’t have to
give it to them.”

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.

CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his “donations” back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer’s money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer’s house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the “donation” was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no “goods” or “services” in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi — which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles — to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor — the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large — is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be “held in confidence by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs — tax matters are not an issue.” Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

“So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before,” Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer’s name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he’d take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed Israeli
bank, “so I can use the money here.” Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O’Brien.

“We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. — the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe there
are multiple agents involved,” O’Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, “who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy,” O’Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father — the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los Angeles
and is known as a “stalwart” of the Jewish community — was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, “It’s not something you started.”

Kasirer replied, “I was really not aware of what he did with my father.”

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

“RK’s father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it,” O’Brien
said in an interview. “We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that — beyond living memory.”

CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

“There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government,” said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it’s not just the Jews, he claimed, “churches do the same
thing.” Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns —
although many do — and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

“Nobody here owns a yacht,” a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then — as with many such institutional fraud cases — that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone’s pockets, it’s not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

“The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent to
50 percent of someone’s income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah,” one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for “What Is News?”) blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, “Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities.” Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

“The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice,” he
wrote.

Some prisons — especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami — have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. “The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling.”

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

“Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah’s commitment to honesty in one’s interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth,” he wrote

DON’T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case — both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts — has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was — an informant who
turned state’s evidence to save his own skin — but what they wanted to know
was what was he? Was he a moser — an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to “the world to come.”

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim — Orthodox rabbinic deciders — there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. “These rules apply only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person’s
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person’s body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself,” it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, (“Laying the Table,” a book about Jewish law written in the late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in “Dinnai Mamonut” (“Laws of Money”) says informing is
prohibited. “All rules of informing are applicable even currently …. Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people.”

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others — a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be “permitted” to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

“There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law,” May said. “Having said that, it doesn’t justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants].”

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
“everybody does it” and “we pay more taxes than everyone else,” that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. “Our business is the integrity [of the individual],” he said.
“Something which is wrong is wrong.”

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser — which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God’s
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

“To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,”
Cohen wrote.

BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 — not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes — all waiting for the morning’s arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn’t converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books — either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms — and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start — not because of the upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate — but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin’s
synagogue in Hancock Park — which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use — and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a few
men walked out in protest.

“As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong,” one person who left quietly said later. “I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat,” but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
“one stage less than normal” to show children “that it’s not business as
usual.”

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to have
the charges read to them.

“How do you plead?” Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: “Not guilty.”

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead his
congregation. He’s free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B’nai Brith!!

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The poster using Arthur Franks is a fraud, and a homosexual pervert [me].
I sometimes use “Grosvenor of Canada” or often I use many
fraudulent names.
Garbage like me, Frank Arthur causes distrust among readers here.

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.
The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
Since I am insane, I say that I am not posting, even when I do.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show
on the gray tab [which only I can see] :
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Many people think that I am really gay Ken McVay, hehehe

“ArthurFranks” wrote in message
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> >On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 11:14:11 -0400, “Frank Arthur”
> >wrote:

>>>The poster using Frank Arthur IS a fraud.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case
– no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

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PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
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Subject: Bombardier Aircraft UNSAFE-Too Many Crashes in Europe & Japan! Airbus Get Another 82 Orders!!
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News report another crash involving another Bumbardier plane – this time
in Albania.

So far there are no deaths reported from the defective Bombardier Canada
airplane crashes.

Will the flight YOU take be the one where YOU and others get killed?

AVOID FLYING ON BOMBARDIER aircraft, and tell your friends likewise.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7089318.stm

Emirates orders 82 Airbus planes

The latest Emirates deal is worth more than $20bn for Airbus
Emirates has ordered 82 Airbus jets, in a deal worth more than $20bn
(£9.6bn) for the European plane-maker.

The Dubai-based airline is buying 70 of Airbus’ mid-sized A350 model,
and 11 Airbus A380 twin-deck super jumbos.

Announced at the start of the Dubai air show, Emirates said the new
planes would play “an important role” in the growth of both the
airline and Dubai.

Emirates added that it also had the option to purchase a further 50
A350 aircraft at a future date.

Rolls-Royce deal

If this additional order goes ahead, the final deal will be worth
about $32bn for Airbus.

Emirates airlines is placing great faith in our A350 XWB and A380
programmes as well as our company and we are rightfully proud
Airbus boss Tom Enders

The latest contract win for Airbus was also good news for British
engine-maker Rolls-Royce, as Emirates has chosen its units to power
the new planes.

It will be worth up to $8.4bn for Rolls-Royce if Emirates does go on
to buy the additional 50 A350 planes.

“Emirates airlines is placing great faith in our A350 XWB and A380
programmes as well as our company and we are rightfully proud,” said
Airbus president and chief executive Tom Enders.

The order is welcome good news for Airbus parent group EADS.

Last week EADS warned it may have to deepen planned restructuring and
job cuts after its losses for the July to September period worsened to
775m euros ($1.14bn; £541m), compared with 189m euros last year.

It already plans to cut 10,000 jobs at Airbus over the next four
years.

Airbus designs and makes its wings in the UK.

>The news stories below about Quantas seem to be dated January 2002.

>All the crashes caused by defective landing gear on the Bombardier Q400,
are
>being reported in the past few weeks – in other words NOW!!

>When all of Europe is dumping the Bombardier Q400, and suing Bombardier
for
>many billions, there is definitely something wrong with Bombardier!

>As well, the media report that there are at least another 2 crashes in
Japan
>with the Bombardier Q400 this year.

>Now, the European Safety Agency is demanding a “crisis meeting” with
Canadian
>officials, to discuss the risks to European travellers caused by the
defective
>Bombardier junk!! In a publicly issued statement, ESA promised to “take
all
>measures to ensure the safety of European passengers and citizens”.

>Competitors of Bumbardier, such as EMBRAER, BAC, and the US firms, must
really
>be having a field day, now that they can tell potential buyers about all
the
>crashes with Bombardier!!

>>On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:21:24 -0400, “Paul” wrote:
>>>”Craig Welch” wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]
>>>> Ned Kelly said:

>>>>>As well the European Union are saying that most European airlines are
now
>>>>>going to return all the Bombardier aircraft, following a number of
crashes in
>>>>>the past few weeks, costing many airlines untold millions in damages
due
>>>>>tounsafe Bombardier aircraft. Mind you airlines such as Horizon Air
and
>>>>>Quantasstill are flying Bombardier aircraft.

>>>> There are no Quantas Bombardier aircraft.

>>>> Craig http://www.wazu.jp/
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>>>I believe you are incorrect.

>>>http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb3078/is_200201/ai_n7819747

>>>http://www.smartmoney.com/news/on/index.cfm?story=ON-20071022-000552-
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Australian Jewry Still Trying To Shut Dr. Toben Down.

On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 21:53:49 -0500, in alt.revisionism “127.0.0.1”
<[email protected]> wrote:

December 03, 2006 12:15am

A RACE-HATE website operating from Adelaide has sparked a furious reaction
>from Australia’s top Jewish body.
The Executive Council of Australian Jewry is considering further legal
action against Dr Fredrick Toben, 62, from Wattle Park, who runs the
Adelaide Institute website.

Dr Toben was the subject of a Federal Court directive in 2002 preventing the
publication of material that vilified Jews.

Despite the court ordering him to remove such material from his website,
anti-Jewish articles are still accessible from the site.

The Executive Council of the Australian Jewry says the statements made on
the website contravene the Racial Discrimination Act.

Council past president, Jeremy Jones, says the organisation is now
considering legal action.

The move follows a national report finding that physical attacks against
Jews have reached a record high.

The report, released by the Executive Council of Australian Jewry,
identifies 156 physical attacks against Jews in the year to the end of
September. The data, which has been collected on a national level since
1989, chronicled other attacks including arson, threats ? via posters,
leaflets, email, telephone or sms ? and vandalism.

In the 12-month period, there were 442 attacks.

Dr Toben’s website was also flagged in the report.

“It is an ongoing concern and we are actively considering all options open
to us,” Mr Jones said.

The 2002 ruling found that the website had published material which implied
some Jews had exaggerated Jewish deaths in World War II for financial gain.

While Dr Toben has since published a disclaimer on his site outlining the
court-imposed restrictions, Mr Jones says the website’s content is still an
issue.

“There has been quite a lot of anti-Jewish material published on that site,”
he said. “Not exactly the same wording but the same kind of material.” The
website contains links to an array of anti-Semitic material including:

ARTICLES which question whether the Holocaust actually occurred.

CLAIMS that the death toll from the Holocaust has been exaggerated.

LINKS to another website blaming Jews for some of the biggest crimes in the
past century, including the 1999 Columbine High School massacre where 12
students were killed, the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing which killed 168
people and the September 11 terrorist attacks.

“The internet gives everybody a megaphone and a potential international
audience,” Mr Jones said.

“And if one person ? who would otherwise have had no reason to dislike
another human being ? forms negative opinions because of something put on a
website, the racist might be quite happy but all the rest of us have reason
to be concerned,” he said.

It is understood Dr Toben is overseas and he could not be reached for
comment.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,20861261-2682,00.html

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Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
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For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
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Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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Kosher Nostra

On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:26:12 +0100, in soc.culture.polish “mkarwan”
wrote:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosher_Nostra

On 30 Mar 2007 23:27:30 -0700, in can.politics “Antigone”
wrote:

The media bosses who cover up heinous crimes committed by
fellow members of their tribe are the most evil of all. It
is an absolute DISASTER having a criminalistic ethnic gang,
called La Kosher Nostra by some, run the mass media in the
U.S. and other Western countries.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
In the past I’ve talked about the breakdown of law and order in Russia
in the wake of communist rule. The communists — which is to say, the
Jews — sucked the country dry and then headed for greener pastures.
At least most of them did. Some Jews stayed behind to squeeze still
more blood out of the Russian people. In several reports we’ve looked
at the trade in White sex slaves centered in Israel. Jewish organized
crime gangs kidnap Russian and Ukrainian girls — or in some cases
lure them to Israel with the promise of employment as secretaries or
housekeepers or nannies — and then force them to work as sex slaves
in Jewish brothels.

Other Jewish crime gangs in Russia exploit Russian children for the
pedophile market around the world. I reported on October 7, 2000, the
breakup of a child pornography ring operating from Moscow and selling
videos of Russian children, some of them only two or three years old,
being raped, sexually tortured, and even murdered. There actually are
perverts who obtain sexual gratification from viewing such horrors,
and child pornography is big business. The child-porn videos coming
>from Moscow sell for hundreds or even thousands of dollars to
pedophiles in the West. The pornographers in Moscow obtain children
>from Russian orphanages by bribing corrupt administrators at the
orphanages, or they simply kidnap them from public parks or
playgrounds. My report of October 7, 2000, was based on the breakup of
one child-porn operation in Moscow after an investigation by Italian
police and postal officials of the shipment of videos from Russia to
pedophiles in Italy. In that report I quoted from a Reuters news
dispatch datelined Naples, Italy, September 27. I’ll read you again
what I quoted in my report:

“Police said on Wednesday they had arrested eight Italians suspected
of belonging to a child-pornography ring that traded videos over the
Internet, including films of Russian children who were abused to
death. Police specializing in Internet crime told reporters that their
19-month investigation had given them enough information to begin
investigations into 1,700 people suspected of buying the material over
the Web. . . . They said three people in Moscow ran an operation to
kidnap children from orphanages, circuses, and public parks and film
them while they were forced to commit sexual acts. Police said they
had intercepted some 3,000 tapes and CDs and digital video discs of
child pornography, including some involving children only several
months old.” — end of quote —

These arrests were big news in Italy, where TV newsmen horrified
millions of Italians by broadcasting excerpts from of a couple of the
child-porn videos on a prime-time national television news program. I
reported that the newsmen responsible for the broadcast were
immediately fired by the news director of the government-run network,
Gad Lerner, a Jew, who obviously was very unhappy that the news had
gotten out.

Perverts in the United States also buy child-porn videos from Russia,
and I commented in my report of October 7, 2000, that in the United
States there was practically a media blackout on the Italian
investigation and the subsequent arrests in Italy and in Russia. But
there was an Associated Press release on September 29, two days after
the arrests. I’ll quote a few lines from that release:

“. . . [P]olice said they had broken up an online international child-
pornography ring, arrested eight Italians and three Russians, and
seized thousands of videos and photographs. The Russian-run ring,
which distributed an explicit catalog on the Internet, catered to
clients in the United States, Germany, and Italy. Its inventory
included films of children being tortured and killed. . . .
Investigators say the pornography ring produces and distributes images
showing children as young as two years old being sexually abused. Some
of the victims reportedly were stolen from orphanages, others from
families. Its catalog offers films of killings for about $20,000 and
images of people having sex with children for about half that.” — end
quote — That Associated Press release from September 29, 2000, was
virtually ignored by news media in the United States.

Then on January 4 of last year a man described by Federal authorities
as the U.S. West Coast distributor for a child-pornography ring
operating in Moscow was arrested in Walnut Creek, California. That was
Seth Bekenstein, a Jew. And at the time I thought, “At last! Now the
media cannot avoid reporting this filthy business to the American
people. There will be a hearing and a trial for Bekenstein, and the
whole story will come out.”

But of course, the story didn’t come out. The mass media did avoid
reporting anything about Bekenstein’s arrest or his trial. Even the
big newspapers in California were silent. The American public remained
completely ignorant of the whole business.

Do you understand what Bekenstein was doing? He was selling films to
thousands of American perverts that showed Russian children and
infants being raped, sexually tortured, and murdered. He was a part of
the operation that kidnapped, raped, sexually tortured, and murdered
these Russian children. Without people like Bekenstein to sell the
films, the business couldn’t have operated. He was placing wholesale
orders to Moscow for more films, new films, and wiring the money that
kept the operation going. He was as guilty as the people who actually
did the kidnapping, raping, torture, and murder.

Well, last month, on January 4, exactly a year after his arrest, Seth
Bekenstein, who has been out of jail on bond the whole time, was
sentenced to 18 months imprisonment after pleading guilty. That’s just
18 months for being a major part of an operation involving the most
horrific criminal activity imaginable — 18 months for raping,
torturing, and murdering hundreds of children for the gratification
of unspeakably perverted freaks. And there still hasn’t been a peep
about Bekenstein or the child-pornography operation in which he was
engaged in any major media outlets in the United States. So far as the
TV-watching public is concerned it never happened.

Imagine how differently the Bekenstein case would have been handled by
the courts if the Jews had decided that it served their interests to
make a cause celebre of it. Imagine what would have happened to
Bekenstein if the Jewish media had given him the 1998 Jasper, Texas,
treatment. Gruesome excerpts from the films he was peddling would be
shown on prime-time TV in America night after night. TV crews would
have interviewed some of Bekenstein’s customers and had them tell
everyone how much they enjoyed seeing little girls or little boys
sexually tortured. There would have been tearful interviews with the
Russian parents of some of the kidnapped children. The Jews would have
kept this up week after week and month after month, until the lemmings
all across America finally had gotten it and were screaming for
Bekenstein’s blood.

And, behold!, the Federal prosecutor would have seen the light and
realized that Bekenstein had not only violated a law against sending
child porn through the mail, he also was guilty of kidnapping, rape,
and murder. And the judge would have seen the light too. And
Bekenstein would be sitting on death row now, hoping that the other
inmates didn’t get their hands on him before he got his lethal
injection.

But the Jewish media bosses had no interest in punishing their fellow
tribesman for his exploitation of Russian children. After all, the
children were only Gentiles, only goyim. And their fellow tribesmen in
Israel were making a very good living in the sex-slave trade,
exploiting the older sisters of these Russian children. Why stir
things up? And they didn’t even have to tell the prosecutor and the
judge in the Bekenstein case to take it easy on Seth. The court system
already has become so corrupted in America that the prosecutor and the
judge understood without being told that they shouldn’t be too hard on
Bekenstein. And now this depraved monster will be back in business
again in a few months.

I’ll sum it up for you: our whole system of laws and government in
America has become media-driven. Until we drag the filthy creatures
controlling the mass media of news and entertainment out of their
offices and drive stakes through their hearts, the system will only
become more and more corrupt.
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
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Or, other useful websites include:
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OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
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Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

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Falsification of the Holocaust = HOLOHOAX according to internationally
highly respected Prof. Israel Shahak,

On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:38:32 GMT, in soc.culture.german “Salah Jafar”
wrote:

Falsification of the Holocaust

Letter to the editor by Prof. Israel Shahak,
published on 19 May 1989 in Kol Ha’ir, Jerusalem. Available online at:
http://www.kaiwan.com/codoh/newsdesk/890519.HTML

I disagree with the opinion of Haim Baram that the Israeli education
system has managed to instil a “Holocaust awareness” in its pupils (Kol Ha’Ir
12.5.89). It’s not an awareness of the Holocaust but rather the myth of the
Holocaust or even a falsification of the Holocaust (in the sense that “a
half-truth is worse than a lie”) which has been instilled here.
As one who himself lived through the Holocaust, first in Warsaw then in
Bergen-Belsen, I will give an immediate example of the total ignorance of
daily life during the Holocaust. In the Warsaw ghetto, even during the period
of the first massive extermination (June to October 1943), one saw almost no
German soldiers. Nearly all the work of administration, and later the work of
transporting hundreds of thousands of Jews to their deaths, was carried out by
Jewish collaborators. Before the outbreak of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising (the
planning of which only started after the extermination of the majority of Jews
in Warsaw), the Jewish underground killed, with perfect justification, every
Jewish collaborator they could find. If they had not done so the Uprising
could never have started. The majority of the population of the Ghetto hated
the collaborators far more than the German Nazis. Every Jewish child was
taught, and this saved the lives of some of them “if you enter a square
>from which there are three exits, one guarded by a German SS man, one by an
Ukrainian and one by a Jewish policeman, then you should first try to pass the
German, and then maybe the Ukrainian, but never the Jew”.
One of my own strongest memories is that, when the Jewish underground
killed a despicable collaborator close to my home at the end of February 1943,
I danced and sang around the still bleeding corpse together with the other
children. I still do not regret this, quite the contrary.
It is clear that such events were not exclusive to the Jews, the entire
Nazi success in easy and continued rule over millions of people stemmed from
the subtle and diabolical use of collaborators, who did most of the dirty work
for them. But does anybody now know about this? This, and not what is
“instilled” was the reality. Of the Yad Vashem (official state Holocaust
museum in Jerusalem – Ed.) theatre, I do not wish to speak at all. It, and
its vile exploiting, such as honouring South Africa collaborators with the
Nazis are truly beneath contempt.
Therefore, if we knew a little of the truth about the Holocaust, we would
at least understand (with or without agreeing) why the Palestinians are now
eliminating their collaborators. That is the only means they have if they
wish to continue to struggle against our limb-breaking regime.

Kind regards,

[Israel Shahak]

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Exposing the Holocaust–REVISIONIST HERESY = TRUTH!

On 12 Nov 2006 18:40:03 -0800, in alt.revisionism “[email protected]
wrote:

REVISIONIST HERESY

Just as there were no weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in Iraq prior
to the recent war-no Jews or gentiles were ever killed in gas
chambers or gas vans by the Nazis during World War 2. The
“intelligence experts” and “scholars” were and are wrong.
Whatever crimes and atrocities the Nazis and Hitler did commit, they
certainly did not include gassings of Jews nor anyone else. The
historians have blindly accepted the wildest pseudo-scientific nonsense
imaginable.

The Jews were still alive

The simplest reason for rejecting the Holocaust story is that the vast
majority of European Jews were still alive at the end of World War 2.
Professor Arthur Butz, the author of The Hoax of the Twentieth Century,
made this claim nearly thirty years ago-and he was absolutely correct
as the following quote from a credible, recent Jewish source shows.

The Jewish Week 11-28-2003
http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=8774&offset
=10&B1=1&author=Stewart%20Ain&issuedates=oneday&month=&day=&year
=&issuedate=20031128&keyword=
“Two new studies to determine the location of Jewish Holocaust
survivors, for use in making future allocations to the most needy,
differ widely on the number of survivors worldwide, The Jewish Week has
learned. Sergio Della Pergola, a demographer for the Institute of
Contemporary Jewry at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, found
1,092,000 survivors worldwide. Jacob Ukeles, a policy researcher in
Manhattan, found 688,000. The Ukeles survey, an update of one he
prepared in 2000 for the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against
Germany, found only minor differences from his previous effort.
Lawrence Eagleburger, chairman of the International Commission on
Holocaust Era Insurance Claims, commissioned both surveys. Eagleburger
had hoped to use the figures in determining how to distribute $13.2
million annually in humanitarian funds for needy survivors worldwide.”

Clearly, the numbers of “Jewish holocaust survivors” alive more
than fifty-five years after the war are so enormous that one must
surely wonder if any Jews at all perished in World War 2. Any
conservative and reasonable statistical analysis of population decline
over fifty-five years would surely conclude that there were more than
six million Jewish “holocaust survivors” alive at the end of the
war. No doubt, some innocent Jews were killed-but, there is no good
reason to believe Jewish deaths were statistically unusual for a long,
horrific war in which many tens of millions of innocent civilians were
killed of all nationalities. On the basis of numbers alone-the
generally accepted story is a monumental hoax. The continued worldwide
acceptance of that hoax, even in Germany, is a tribute to the enormous
power and influence of the supposed victms and the Jewish community in
general. The uniqueness of the alleged mass gassings has also appealed
to the darker side of the human imagination and gullibility.

The hoax has become a new religion which one must believe without
question or be condemned as “evil”-even imprisoned as in Germany
or Austria, and ruined as well. “Guilt for the holocaust” has come
to replace “original sin” for which all except the jewish victims
themselves must “bear responsibility.”

Friedrich Paul Berg
Learn everything at www.nazigassings.com
The “holocaust” is racist hate propaganda.
Nazi Gassings Never Happened!

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Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
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THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
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Looking for copy CDs of MICHELSOFT for world + Germany.

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Willing to pay reasonable in US$, or even send stamps
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From: Mirelle

Re: Edward M. Rosen, 400 Glendale Rd. #24E, Haverton, PA 19083,
SSN: 186-44-1491,
Date Of Birth: June-17-1953,

For Anyone Who Wants To Report His Tax Evasions To The Federal Governemat
Of The USA,
By Getting Kick Backs For Bumping People Up On Medical Waiting Lists

Or, perhaps useful info for ??

On Nov 5, 3:04 pm, “ElParedon” wrote:
> Send me the info Mirelle, I have a friend who is investigator, gets
> commission when he catches someone like him

Thieves like Edward Rosen, need to be stopped from stealing money not
only from the Federal Government, by tax evasion, also, stealing money
>from sick people who are so desperate they give money to shysters like
him in order to be bumped up on medical waiting lists!
Heck, I may as well give you the info now:

Edward M. Rosen, 400 Glendale Rd. #24E, Haverton, PA 19083,
SSN: 186-44-1491,
Date Of Birth: June-17-1953

For Anyone Who Wants To Report His Tax Evasions
To The Federal Governemat Of The USA, By Getting Kick Backs
For Bumping People Up On Medical Waiting Lists

Mirelle
> “Mirelle” wrote in message

> news:[email protected]

> > On Nov 4, 4:52 pm, Rosen the Chosen wrote:
> >> On Nov 4, 7:42 pm, Mirelle wrote:
> >> > >> The fact is that you made the effort, and for what purpose

> >> > The purpose was to give the good folks who are paying taxes your info
> >> > – in case anyone wanted to report you to the Federal Government for
> >> > tax evasion.
> >> > For taking money on the side – to bump people up on medical waiting
> > > lists. Illegal thing to do, eddie-boi.

> >> No

> > Yes.
> > It is illegal to not pay taxes on all income.
> > I may have to post your info again, you are such a thief!
> > Stealing money from the Federal Government, someone may actually turn
> > you in for it, now THAT would make you stop taking all the illegal, no
> > taxes paid on it – bribe money, for bumping people up on medical
> > waiting lists!
> > On top of it being illegal for tax evasion purposes, it is unethical,
> > since no one should get better health care just because they have the
> > money to bribe shysters like you!

> > Mirelle

> Send me the info Mirelle, I have a friend who is investigator, gets
> commission when he catches someone like him

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

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From: Mirelle

Re: Edward M. Rosen, 400 Glendale Rd. #24E, Haverton, PA 19083,
SSN: 186-44-1491,
Date Of Birth: June-17-1953,

For Anyone Who Wants To Report His Tax Evasions To The Federal Governemat Of
The USA, and IRS, By Getting Kick Backs For Bumping People Up On Medical
Waitiing Lists

Or, perhaps useful info for ??

On Nov 5, 3:04 pm, “ElParedon” wrote:
> Send me the info Mirelle, I have a friend who is investigator, gets
> commission when he catches someone like him

Thieves like Edward Rosen, need to be stopped from stealing money not
only from the Federal Government, by tax evasion, also, stealing money
>from sick people who are so desperate they give money to shysters like
him in order to be bumped up on medical waiting lists!
Heck, I may as well give you the info now:

Edward M. Rosen, 400 Glendale Rd. #24E, Haverton, PA 19083,
SSN: 186-44-1491,
Date Of Birth: June-17-1953

For Anyone Who Wants To Report His Tax Evasions
To The Federal Governemat Of The USA, By Getting Kick Backs
For Bumping People Up On Medical Waiting Lists

Mirelle
> “Mirelle” wrote in message

> news:[email protected]

> > On Nov 4, 4:52 pm, Rosen the Chosen wrote:
> >> On Nov 4, 7:42 pm, Mirelle wrote:
> >> > >> The fact is that you made the effort, and for what purpose

> >> > The purpose was to give the good folks who are paying taxes your info
> >> > – in case anyone wanted to report you to the Federal Government for
> >> > tax evasion.
> >> > For taking money on the side – to bump people up on medical waiting
> > > lists. Illegal thing to do, eddie-boi.

> >> No

> > Yes.
> > It is illegal to not pay taxes on all income.
> > I may have to post your info again, you are such a thief!
> > Stealing money from the Federal Government, someone may actually turn
> > you in for it, now THAT would make you stop taking all the illegal, no
> > taxes paid on it – bribe money, for bumping people up on medical
> > waiting lists!
> > On top of it being illegal for tax evasion purposes, it is unethical,
> > since no one should get better health care just because they have the
> > money to bribe shysters like you!

> > Mirelle

> Send me the info Mirelle, I have a friend who is investigator, gets
> commission when he catches someone like him

From [email protected] Tue May 6 10:38:07 EDT 2008
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It seems that the Moscow fags want another beating lesson again, this year.

>From: kjmcva
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.talk.royalty
>Subject: Re: Jewish Poofters bashed in Moscow
>Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 10:01:28 -0700

>On 1 Jun., 13:05, Charlie Pie wrote:
>> On May 28, 7:40 pm, “Binjamin Cram’er” wrote:

>> > Just watched a news report on a bunch of poofters (huge number of whom are yids)
>> > trying to get a “gay pride” (like there’s any such thing) parade happening in Moscow.

>> > The locals were less than enthused with these nonces poncing around, trying to get
>> >the Russians to lower their moral standards.

>> > Quite a few of the poofs copped a good ole fashioned smack in the chops from people
>> > in the crowd. The singer from “Right Said Fred” was one who copped a beauty.

>> > I dislike violence of any type, however it is good to see that decency is still something
>> > of value in Russia.

>> I though you were the lad from Right Said Fred ?
>> C.P.

>What a horrible man you are! Claiming violence and the use of
>democratic right to be decency!!! You should be ashame dof
>yourself!!! Intolerant people were and are the curse of humanity!
>Absolutely digusting! And on top anti-jewish! Were is the difference
>between you and Hitler … the same kind of thinking!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
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Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
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From: “Venceremos”
Subject: ONCE AGAIN ZYD PLOTS A RUSSIAN REVOLUTION-Like 1917?

RUSSIA BEWARE, BORIS AND MOISHE ARE GOING FOR THE THROAT,again!

‘I am plotting a new Russian revolution’

London exile ZYD Berezovsky says force necessary to bring down President
Putin

Ian Cobain and Matthew Taylor and Luke Harding in Moscow
Friday April 13, 2007
The Guardian

The Russian tycoon Boris Berezovsky has told the Guardian he is
plotting the violent overthrow of President Putin from his base in
Britain after forging close contacts with members of Russia’s ruling
elite.

In comments which appear calculated to enrage the Kremlin, and which
will further inflame relations between London and Moscow, the
multimillionaire claimed he was already bankrolling people close to
the president who are conspiring to mount a palace coup.

“We need to use force to change this regime,” he said. “It isn’t
possible to change this regime through democratic means. There can be
no change without force, pressure.” Asked if he was effectively
fomenting a revolution, he said: “You are absolutely correct.”

Although Mr Berezovsky, with an estimated fortune of £850m, may have
the means to finance such a plot, and although he enjoyed enormous
political influence in Russia before being forced into exile, he said
he could not provide details to back up his claims because the
information was too sensitive.

Last night the Kremlin denounced Mr Berezovsky’s comments as a
criminal offence which it believed should undermine his refugee status
in the UK.

Dmitry Peskov, the Kremlin’s chief spokesman, said: “In accordance
with our legislation [his remarks are] being treated as a crime. It
will cause some questions from the British authorities to Mr
Berezovsky. We want to believe that official London will never grant
asylum to someone who wants to use force to change the regime in
Russia.”

It will not be the first time the British government has faced
accusations from the Kremlin that it is providing a safe haven for Mr
Berezovsky. When he told a Moscow radio station last year that he
wanted to see Mr Putin overthrown by force, Jack Straw, then foreign
secretary, told the Commons that “advocating the violent overthrow of
a sovereign state is unacceptable” and warned the tycoon he could be
stripped of his refugee status.

Russian authorities subsequently sent an extradition request to
London. That failed, however, when a district judge ruled Mr
Berezovsky could not be extradited as long as he has asylum status.

In an interview with the Guardian, however, Mr Berezovsky goes much
further than before, claiming to be in close contact with members of
Russia’s political elite who, he says, share his view that Mr Putin is
damaging Russia by rolling back democratic reforms, smothering
opposition, centralising power and flouting the country’s
constitution.

“There is no chance of regime change through democratic elections,” he
says. “If one part of the political elite disagrees with another part
of the political elite – that is the only way in Russia to change the
regime. I try to move that.”

While declining to describe these contacts – and alleging that they
would be murdered if they were identified – he maintained that he was
offering his “experience and ideology” to members of the country’s
political elite, as well as “my understanding of how it could be
done”. He added: “There are also practical steps which I am doing now,
and mostly it is financial.”

Mr Berezovsky said he was unconcerned by any threat to strip him of
his refugee status. “Straw wasn’t in a position to take that decision.
A judge in court said it wasn’t in the jurisdiction of Straw.”

He added that there was even less chance of such a decision being
taken following the polonium-210 poisoning last November of his former
employee, Alexander Litvinenko. “Today the reality is different
because of the Litvinenko case.”

Mr Berezovsky, 61, a former mathematician, turned to business during
the Yeltsin years and made his fortune by capturing state assets at
knockdown prices during Russia’s rush towards privatisation.

Although he played a key role in ensuring Mr Putin’s victory in the
2000 presidential elections, the two men fell out as the newly elected
leader successfully wrested control of Russia back from the so-called
oligarchy, the small group of tycoons who had come to dominate the
country’s economy.

A few months after the election Mr Berezovsky fled Russia, and applied
successfully for asylum in the UK after Mr Litvinenko, an officer with
the KGB’s successor, the FSB, came forward to say he had been ordered
to murder the tycoon.

Mr Berezovsky changed his name to Platon Elenin, Platon being the name
of a character in a Russian film based loosely upon his life. He was
subsequently given a British passport in this name.

As well as claiming to be financing and encouraging coup plotters in
Moscow, Mr Berezovsky said he had dedicated much of the last six years
to “trying to destroy the positive image of Putin” that many in the
west held, portraying him whenever possible as a dangerously anti-
democratic figure. He said he had also opposed the Russian president
through Kommersant, the influential Russian newspaper which he
controlled until last year.

Last month Mr Berezovsky was questioned by two detectives from the
Russian prosecutor general’s office who were in London to investigate
the death of Mr Litvinenko. He has denied claims that he refused to
answer many of their questions.

Last night the Kremlin said Russian authorities might want to question
him again in the light of his interview with the Guardian. “I now
believe our prosecutor general’s office has got lots of questions for
Mr Berezovsky,” said Mr Peskov. He added: “His words are very
interesting. This is a very sensitive issue.”

The Foreign Office said it had nothing to add to Mr Straw’s comments
of last year.

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NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

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IHR – www.ihr.org
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PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 23:54:04 GMT, in can.politics “Moishe Lipschitz” wrote:

http://www.theunjustmedia.com/jew%20organized%20crime.htm

For the real TRUTH about ZYDS, visit the world top-rated website
for ZYDS= JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

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ZYD CRIMES IN RUSSIA EXPOSED FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE
No wonder normal people hate the filthy Christkiller ZYDS, still after more
than 2000 years!

On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:23:48 -0400, in soc.culture.canada “serwad”
wrote:

Solzhenitsyn breaks last taboo of the revolution

Nobel laureate under fire for new book on the role of ZYDS/Jews in
Soviet-era repression

Alexander Solzhenitsyn, who first exposed the horrors of the Stalinist
gulag, is now attempting to tackle one of the most sensitive topics of his
writing career – the role of the Jews in the Bolshevik revolution and Soviet
purges.
In his latest book Solzhenitsyn, 84, deals with one of the last taboos of
the communist revolution: that Jews were as much perpetrators of the
repression as its victims. Two Hundred Years Together – a reference to the
1772 partial annexation of Poland and Russia which greatly increased the
Russian Jewish population – contains three chapters discussing the Jewish
role in the revolutionary genocide and secret police purges of Soviet
Russia.

But Jewish leaders and some historians have reacted furiously to the book,
and questioned Solzhenitsyn’s motives in writing it, accusing him of factual
inaccuracies and of fanning the flames of anti-semitism in Russia.
Solzhenitsyn argues that some Jewish satire of the revolutionary period
“consciously or unconsciously descends on the Russians” as being behind the
genocide. But he states that all the nation’s ethnic groups must share the
blame, and that people shy away from speaking the truth about the Jewish
experience.

In one remark which infuriated Russian Jews, he wrote: “If I would care to
generalise, and to say that the life of the Jews in the camps was especially
hard, I could, and would not face reproach for an unjust national
generalisation. But in the camps where I was kept, it was different. The
Jews whose experience I saw – their life was softer than that of others.”

Yet he added: “But it is impossible to find the answer to the eternal
question: who is to be blamed, who led us to our death? To explain the
actions of the Kiev cheka [secret police] only by the fact that two thirds
were Jews, is certainly incorrect.”

Solzhenitsyn, awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1970, spent much of
his life in Soviet prison camps, enduring persecution when he wrote about
his experiences. He is currently in frail health, but in an interview given
last month he said that Russia must come to terms with the Stalinist and
revolutionary genocides – and that its Jewish population should be as
offended at their own role in the purges as they are at the Soviet power
that also persecuted them.

“My book was directed to empathise with the thoughts, feelings and the
psychology of the Jews – their spiritual component,” he said. “I have never
made general conclusions about a people. I will always differentiate between
layers of Jews. One layer rushed headfirst to the revolution. Another, to
the contrary, was trying to stand back. The Jewish subject for a long time
was considered prohibited. Zhabotinsky [a Jewish writer] once said that the
best service our Russian friends give to us is never to speak aloud about
us.”

But Solzhenitsyn’s book has caused controversy in Russia, where one Jewish
leader said it was “not of any merit”.

“This is a mistake, but even geniuses make mistakes,” said Yevgeny
Satanovsky, president of the Russian Jewish Congress. “Richard Wagner did
not like the Jews, but was a great composer. Dostoyevsky was a great Russian
writer, but had a very sceptical attitude towards the Jews.

“This is not a book about how the Jews and Russians lived together for 200
years, but one about how they lived apart after finding themselves on the
same territory. This book is a weak one professionally. Factually, it is so
bad as to be beyond criticism. As literature, it is not of any merit.”

But DM Thomas, one of Solzhenitsyn’s biographers, said that he did not think
the book was fuelled by anti-semitism. “I would not doubt his sincerity. He
says that he firmly supports the state of Israel. In his fiction and factual
writing there are Jewish characters that he writes about who are bright,
decent, anti-Stalinist people.”

Professor Robert Service of Oxford University, an expert on 20th century
Russian history, said that from what he had read about the book,
Solzhenitsyn was “absolutely right”.

Researching a book on Lenin, Prof Service came across details of how
Trotsky, who was of Jewish origin, asked the politburo in 1919 to ensure
that Jews were enrolled in the Red army. Trotsky said that Jews were
disproportionately represented in the Soviet civil bureaucracy, including
the cheka.

“Trotsky’s idea was that the spread of anti-semitism was [partly down to]
objections about their entrance into the civil service. There is something
in this; that they were not just passive spectators of the revolution. They
were part-victims and part-perpetrators.

“It is not a question that anyone can write about without a huge amount of
bravery, and [it] needs doing in Russia because the Jews are quite often
written about by fanatics. Mr Solzhenitsyn’s book seems much more measured
than that.”

Yet others failed to see the need for Solzhenitsyn’s pursuit of this
particular subject at present. Vassili Berezhkov, a retired KGB colonel and
historian of the secret services and the NKVD (the precursor of the KGB),
said: “The question of ethnicity did not have any importance either in the
revolution or the story of the NKVD. This was a social revolution and those
who served in the NKVD and cheka were serving ideas of social change.

“If Solzhenitsyn writes that there were many Jews in the NKVD, it will
increase the passions of anti-semitism, which has deep roots in Russian
history. I think it is better not to discuss such a question now.”

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Why Jews/ZYDs Are Still a Real Problem, Simplified
Basically, people for the past more than 2000 years can not trust
the Christkiller ZYDS!

On 12 Oct 2006 11:13:47 -0700, in uk.politics.misc “Magnus” wrote:

Why Jews Are a Problem, Simplified

Contrary to what you have probably heard, Jews were the world’s first
racists. They created racist ideas, as official doctrine, long before
Christianity or Islam existed.

Jews claimed that they were superior to all other humans [i.e. that
they were “The Chosen People”]. They did this mainly to keep
themselves apart from other groups of people so that their genetic
strain would not be ‘polluted.’

Then, many years later, the French leader Napoleon ‘freed’ the Jews
[he granted them various rights that they did not previously have],
and Jews became part of White European society. Their bigoted, racist,
money-oriented ways did not endear them to the benevolent Europeans.

So-called “anti-Semitism” resulted from that gentile/Jewish contact in
Europe, and became the norm. European attitudes about Jews became
worse when Jews overtook Russia in 1917. That event resulted in, or at
least coincided with, a worldwide Jewish revolution. Within that
revolution, Jews tried different methods of conquering the gentile-
dominated world that had ‘oppressed’ them for years: some Jews tried
Communism, some tried global capitalism, some tried feminism, some
tried leftism. All such ideas were designed to weaken traditional
gentile culture so that Jews, as both a religion and a race by long
interbreeding among themselves, would never be ‘oppressed’ again.

Jews dominate the West today by controlling the media, Hollywood,
banking/finance, left-wing political causes, and other areas of
Western culture. They are smarter than gentiles as a rule, and are
much more ruthless and cunning. They do not have White morals; they do
not feel guilty about cheating a non-Jew. They are not White even
though they appear to be so. They are basically aliens living among
Whites. Some people have likened Jews to invaders from another planet
who look human; that description seems reasonable as a whole.

Furthermore, Jews see themselves as being in a perpetual war with non-
Jews. They are willing to go to further racial and political extremes
than gentiles, because they take that ongoing “war” with gentiles more
seriously than non-Jews do. Therefore, Jews will lie, cheat and steal
more readily than a non-Jew. This, in our opinion, makes Jews a
security risk within all Western countries.

Also, Jews are in deep, pathological denial about why gentiles do not
like them. A Jew will engage in lying to and swindling non-Jews, and
then will wonder with complete honesty why gentiles do not like Jews.
Jews seem unable to grasp the fact that their actions are unsavory to
gentiles. In fact, we suggest that this blindness of Jews to the many
unsavory aspects of Jewry is actually a form of mental illness,
although it will never be labeled as such.

While there are, no doubt, a few ‘good’ Jews in the West, their
numbers are very small. Jews cannot be counted on to preserve White
values since they are not White.

Jews are the greatest enemy of traditional Western culture.

********************

See the following for many links on Jews and Judaism:
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
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Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

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Immer die verfluechte Juden seit 2000 Jahren! Vergiss niemals die verfluechte
Juden.

>On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:45:26 -0400, in alt.revisionism Gallows Cheater
> wrote:

>http://www.rense.com/general34/ZAND.HTM

>Zionism And The Third Reich
>By Mark Weber
>Institute for Historical Review
>2-8-3

>Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the German
>port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name, “Tel
>Aviv,” while a swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the
>ship was Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member.
>Many years later a traveler aboard the ship recalled this symbolic
>combination as a “metaphysical absurdity.”1 Absurd or not, this is but one
>vignette from a little-known chapter of history: The wide-ranging
>collaboration between Zionism and Hitler’s Third Reich.

>Common Aims

>Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
>the “Jewish question”: that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
>non-Jewish society? During the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National
>Socialists shared similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue.
>They agreed that Jews and Germans were distinctly different nationalities,
>and that Jews did not belong in Germany. Jews living in the Reich were
>therefore to be regarded not as “Germans of the Jewish faith,” but rather
>as members of a separate national community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism)
>also implied an obligation by Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine,
>the “Jewish homeland.” They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
>Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any
>other “foreign” country.
>
>Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained that
>anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
>understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and attitudes.
>The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize reality and live in
>a separate state of their own. “The Jewish question exists wherever Jews
>live in noticeable numbers,” he wrote in his most influential work, The
>Jewish State. “Where it does not exist, it is brought in by arriving
>Jews … I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which is a very complex
>phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew, without hate or fear.”
>The Jewish question, he maintained, is not social or religious. “It is a
>national question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
>political issue …” Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews
>constitute not merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a
>Volk.2 Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered the world a welcome “final solution of
>the Jewish question.”3
>
>Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of Germany (by
>far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a detailed
>memorandum to the new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and
>formally offered Zionist support in “solving” the vexing “Jewish question.”
>The first step, it suggested, had to be a frank recognition of fundamental
>national differences: 4
>
>Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition, which
>consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in the fault of
>an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one’s own tradition.
>Zionism recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist
>trend, symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear …
>
>Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people, which is
>now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its Christian and national
>character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
>Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a sense
>of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping of its
>existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the liberal era
>must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community and collective
>responsibility …
>
>We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that can,
>through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question, take a
>decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will have to be
>dealt with by most European peoples …
>
>Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and sincere
>relationship to the German people and its national and racial realities.
>Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals, because we,
>too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining the purity of the
>Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the cultural domain, we — having
>been brought up in the German language and German culture — can show an
>interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration and
>internal sympathy …
>
>For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the collaboration of
>even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews, because in dealing with
>the Jewish question not sentimentalities are involved but a real problem
>whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment especially
>the German people … Boycott propaganda — such as is currently being
>carried on against Germany in many ways — is in essence un-Zionist,
>because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and to build …
>
>We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will continue
>to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe disadvantages
>result for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions for other peoples.
>The Federation’s paper, the Jüdische Rundschau (“Jewish Review”),
>proclaimed the same message: “Zionism recognizes the existence of a Jewish
>problem and desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this
>purpose Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether
>pro- or anti-Jewish, because, in its view, we are dealing here with a
>concrete rather than a sentimental problem, the solution of which all
>peoples are interested.”5 A young Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz, who later
>settled in the United States and became head of the American Jewish
>Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden (“We Jews”), that the National
>Socialist revolution in Germany meant “Jewry for the Jews.” He
>explained: “No subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we
>desire a new concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race.” 6
>
>Active Collaboration
>
>On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and nationhood,
>National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what each group
>believed was in its own national interest. As a result, the Hitler
>government vigorously supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine
>from 1933 until 1940-1941, when the Second World War prevented extensive
>collaboration.
>
>Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews, probably a
>majority, continued to regard themselves, often with considerable pride, as
>Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about pulling up roots to begin a new
>life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews turned
>to Zionism during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement
>flourished in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist
>Federation’s bi-weekly Jüdische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist
>books were published. “Zionist work was in full swing” in Germany during
>those years, the Encyclopaedia Judaica notes. A Zionist convention held in
>Berlin in 1936 reflected “in its composition the vigorous party life of
>German Zionists.”7
>
>The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An internal
>June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging support for
>Zionism by the government and the Party as the best way to encourage
>emigration of Germany’s Jews to Palestine. This would require increased
>Jewish self-awareness. Jewish schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish
>cultural organizations — in short, everything that would encourage this
>new consciousness and self-awareness – should be promoted, the paper
>recommended.8
>
>SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official Kurt
>Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess Zionist
>development there. Based on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein
>wrote a series of twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin
>daily Der Angriff that appeared in late 1934 under the heading “A Nazi
>Travels to Palestine.” The series expressed great admiration for the
>pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish settlers. Zionist
>self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had produced a new kind of Jew. He
>praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
>entire world. A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding
>article, “pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of
>the world: the Jewish question.” Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a
>Swastika on one side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the
>joint SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
>Mildenstein was promoted to head the Jewish affairs department of the SS
>security service in order to support Zionist migration and development more
>effectively. 9
>
>The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support for
>Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: “The time may not be too far
>off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who have been
>lost to it for more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with
>official goodwill, go with them.”10 Four months later, a similar article
>appeared in the SS paper: 11
>
>The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not on
>religion leads the German government to guarantee without reservation the
>racial separateness of this community. The government finds itself in
>complete agreement with the great spiritual movement within Jewry, the
>so-called Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around
>the world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
>Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role in the
>future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.
>
>A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service from
>Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing “strictly kosher
>food on its ships, under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate.” 12 With
>official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to “reeducate” Germany’s Jews.
>As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his 1985 survey, The Third
>Reich and the Palestine Question: “Zionists were encouraged to take their
>message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
>Palestine and generally to educate German Jews about Palestine. There was
>considerable pressure to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying
>themselves as Germans and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in
>them.” 13
>
>In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist Federation of
>Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation: “The Gestapo did
>everything in those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine.
>We often received their help when we required anything from other
>authorities regarding preparations for emigration.” 14
>
>At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
>adopted the so-called “Nuremberg laws” that prohibited marriages and sexual
>relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed the Jews an
>alien minority nationality. A few days later the Zionist Jüdische Rundschau
>editorially welcomed the new measures: 15
>
>Germany … is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress when it
>declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national minority. Once the
>Jews have been stamped a national minority it is again possible to
>establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The new
>laws give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life, its own
>national life. In future it will be able to shape its own schools, its own
>theatre, and its own sports associations. In short, it can create its own
>future in all aspects of national life …
>
>Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for itself,
>and is offering state protection for this separate life of the Jewish
>minority: Jewry’s process of growth into a nation will thereby be
>encouraged and a contribution will be made to the establishment of more
>tolerable relations between the two nations. Georg Kareski, the head of
>both the “Revisionist” Zionist State Organization and the Jewish Cultural
>League, and former head of the Berlin Jewish Community, declared in an
>interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end of 1935: 16
>
>For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural affairs
>of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for living
>together without conflict… I have long supported such a separation,
>provided it is founded on respect for the alien nationality. The Nuremberg
>Laws … seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform entirely
>with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect… This
>interruption of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities,
>which had been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a
>Jewish point of view, entirely welcome.
>
>Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S. Wise,
>president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish Congress,
>told a New York rally in June 1938: “I am not an American citizen of the
>Jewish faith, I am a Jew… Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
>Jewish people a race and we are a race.” 17 The Interior Ministry’s Jewish
>affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard Lösener, expressed support for Zionism in
>an article that appeared in a November 1935 issue of the official
>Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18
>
>If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them were
>settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely resolved
>today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of opposition to the
>ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the Zionists,
>because they realize at once that these laws represent the only correct
>solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation must have its own
>state as the outward expression of its particular nationhood.
>
>In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
>network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany
>where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
>Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German flag,
>Jews were specifically guaranteed the right to display the blue and white
>Jewish national banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel
>was flown at the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler’s Germany. 19
>
>Himmler’s security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
>underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid Haganah
>official Feivel Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and
>for help in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the
>Haganah was kept well informed about German plans by a spy it managed to
>plant in the Berlin headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even
>included secret deliveries of German weapons to Jewish settlers for use in
>clashes with Palestinian Arabs. 21 In the aftermath of the November
>1938 “Kristallnacht” outburst of violence and destruction, the SS quickly
>helped the Zionist organization to get back on its feet and continue its
>work in Germany, although now under more restricted supervision. 22
>
>Official Reservations
>
>German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party officials
>were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful Jewish communities
>in the United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize “their”
>governments and fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry
>remained implacably hostile toward National Socialist Germany, and as long
>as the great majority of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to
>resettle in the Zionist “promised land,” a sovereign Jewish state in
>Palestine would not really “solve” the international Jewish question.
>Instead, German officials reasoned, it would immeasurably strengthen this
>dangerous anti-German campaign. German backing for Zionism was therefore
>limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
>control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23
>
>A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats in June
>1937, would not be in Germany’s interest because it would not be able to
>absorb all Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional
>power base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served
>as a base for international Communism.24 Reflecting something of a shift in
>official policy, the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937
>for Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
>tension and conflict between Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply
>increasing. 25
>
>A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in spite
>of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, “it would nevertheless be a
>mistake to assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure
>in Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the anti-German
>agitation of international Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation
>of a Palestine Jewish state would help the peaceful development of the
>nations of the world.”26 “The proclamation of a Jewish state or a
>Jewish-administrated Palestine,” warned an internal memorandum by the
>Jewish affairs section of the SS, “would create for Germany a new enemy,
>one that would have a deep influence on developments in the Near East.”
>Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state “would work to bring
>special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
>legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry.”27 In January
>1939, Hitler’s new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise
>warned in another circular bulletin that “Germany must regard the formation
>of a Jewish state as dangerous” because it “would bring an international
>increase in power to world Jewry.” 28
>
>Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938 and, in
>spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and misgivings
>that his policies might contribute to the formation of a Jewish state,
>decided to support Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The
>prospect of ridding Germany of its Jews, he concluded, outweighed the
>possible dangers. 29
>
>Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic restrictions on
>Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and 1939. In response, the
>SS security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
>Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
>Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several convoys of
>ships succeeded in reaching Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish
>migration, both legal and illegal, from Germany (including Austria) to
>Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and 1939. Another 10,000 Jews were
>scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the outbreak of war in September
>brought the effort to an end. All the same, German authorities continued to
>promote indirect Jewish emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30
>Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized
>Zionist “kibbutz” training camp for potential emigrants continued to
>operate in Hitler’s Germany. 31
>
>The Transfer Agreement
>
>The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era was the
>Transfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of German Jews to
>migrate to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
>Haavara (Hebrew for “transfer”), was concluded in August 1933 following
>talks between German officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of
>the Jewish Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization.
>32
>
>Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine deposited
>money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to purchase
>German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps, fertilizer, and
>so forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
>Jewish-owned Haavara company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to
>the Jewish emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount
>corresponding to his deposit in Germany. German goods poured into Palestine
>through the Haavara, which was supplemented a short time later with a
>barter agreement by which Palestine oranges were exchanged for German
>timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and other goods. The Agreement
>thus served the Zionist aim of bringing Jewish settlers and development
>capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the German goal of
>freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.
>
>Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated the
>merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine the
>international Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist
>officials reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the
>Haavara arrangement, stressed that the Agreement was not economically
>advantageous to Germany. Arthur Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration
>specialist who had helped negotiate the pact, pointed out that “the
>Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the boycott movement, since no
>new currency will flow into Germany as a result of the agreement…” 33 The
>1935 Zionist Congress, meeting in Switzerland, overwhelmingly endorsed the
>pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the Zionist “shadow government” in
>Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha’avara, which remained in
>effect until the Second World War forced its abandonment.
>
>Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany’s Consul General in
>Jerusalem, Hans Döhle, for example, sharply criticized the Agreement on
>several occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the
>foreign exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
>would bring if sold elsewhere. The Haavara monopoly sale of German goods to
>Palestine through a Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and
>Arabs there. Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of
>German markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
>resented the arrangement.34 A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal
>bulletin referred to the “foreign exchange sacrifices” that resulted from
>the Haavara. 35
>
>A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry reviewed
>the impact of the Transfer Agreement: “There is no doubt that the Haavara
>arrangement has contributed most significantly to the very rapid
>development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided not only the
>largest source of money (from Germany!), but also the most intelligent
>group of immigrants, a nd finally it brought to the country the machines
>and industrial products essential for development.” The main advantage of
>the pact, the memo reported, was the emigration of large numbers of Jews to
>Palestine, the most desirable target country as far as Germany was
>concerned. But the paper also noted the important drawbacks pointed out by
>Consul Döhle and others. The Interior Minister, it went on, had concluded
>that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the advantages and
>that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36
>
>Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed the
>policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and each time
>decided to maintain the Haavara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
>Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37
>
>The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer company,
>the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria, through which
>Jews in foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine.
>Almost $900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews
>in Palestine.38 Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish
>emigration concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the
>Ha’avara. In 1937 Poland authorized the Halifin (Hebrew for “exchange”)
>transfer company. By late summer 1939, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and
>Italy had signed similar arrangements. The outbreak of war in September
>1939, however, prevented large-scale implementation of these agreements. 39

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But the filthy Christkiller ZYDS are still demanding billions from Christians
everywhere for the so-called HOLOHOAX!!

This, even though prominent ZYDs COLLABORATED with Nazis!

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:22:13 -0400, in soc.culture.jewish “ElParedon”
wrote:
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> The Dynamic Duo Of Lies

> Written by Jayne Gardner

> Part of what helped me to finally understand that I had been lied to
> about the Holocaust was the very testimony of some of the more famous
> survivors. Reading what happened to them during the war made
> absolutely no sense when stacked up against what we were being told
> about the horrors endured by the Jews in Europe’s concentration camps.
> For instance, Elie Wiesel, a man who has come to personify the
> Holocaust, told of Jews being thrown into open pits of fire at
> Auschwitz, a fate that he only managed to escape by sheer chance.
> Here he differs from the majority of survivors who told of gas
> chambers being the instrument of death for the majority of camp
> inmates:

> “Forced to choose from among several Allied war propaganda lies, he
> chose to defend the fire lie instead of the boiling water, gassing, or
> electrocution lies. In 1956, when he published his testimony in
> Yiddish, the fire lie was still alive in certain circles. This lie is
> the origin of the term Holocaust. Today there is no longer a single
> historian who believes that Jews were burned alive. The myths of the
> boiling water and of electrocution have also disappeared. Only the gas
> remains.”

> “In his autobiography, Wiesel writes:

> “Not far from us, flames were leaping up from a ditch, gigantic
> flames. They were burning something there. A lorry drew up at the pit
> and delivered its load – little children. Babies! Yes, I saw it – saw
> it with my own eyes. those children in the flames. (Is it surprising
> that I could not sleep after that? Sleep had fled from my eyes.) So
> this is where we were going. A little farther on was another and
> larger ditch for adults. [.] ‘Father,’ I said, ‘if that is so, I don’t
> want to wait here. I’m going to run to the electric wire. That would
> be better than slow agony in the flames.'”

> Compare this with the explanation given by Thies Christopherson in his
> article entitled Reflection On Auschwitz And West German Justice:

> “At first, those who died at Auschwitz were buried, but because of the
> high ground water level (one meter) in this area between the Vistula
> and Sola rivers, that practice couldn’t be continued. A labor team
> headed by SS Staff Sergeant Moll (who had been in charge of the
> agricultural nursery at Raisko) was assigned to dig up the buried
> corpses and burn them. This was done on an open fire. The most
> unbelievable stories were told about this procedure. West German
> television even broadcast a film of this which was supposedly made in
> secret by an SS man.”

> As Wiesel continues his story, he is saved by nothing short of a
> miracle:

> “Our line had now only fifteen paces to go. I bit my lips so that my
> father would not hear my teeth chattering. Ten steps still. Eight.
> Seven. We marched slowly on as though following a hearse at our own
> funeral. Four more steps. Three steps. There it was now, right in
> front of us, the pit and its flames. I gathered all that was left of
> my strength, so that I could break the ranks and throw myself upon the
> barbed wire. In the depth of my heart I bade farewell to my father, to
> the whole universe; and, in spite of myself, the words formed
> themselves and issued a whisper from my lips: Yitgadal veyitkadach
> shmé raba. May His name be blessed and magnified.. My heart was
> bursting. The moment had come. I was face to face with the Angel of
> Death. No. Two steps from the pit we were ordered to turn to the left
> and made to go into our barracks.”

> Mr. Wiesel’s lies are many and varied. When writing about the
> slaughter at Babi Yar, he wrote:

> “Later, I learn from a witness that, for month after month, the ground
> never stopped trembling; and that, from time to time, geysers of blood
> spurted from it.”

> He claimed that they killed 10,000 Jews a day at Buchenwald but some
> how, miraculously, he was always spared. Is it likely that one 15 year
> old boy could survive not one, but three concentration camps whose
> entire raison d’etre was to kill as many Jews as possible?

> It has been said that Elie Wiesel “is the Holocaust,” and yet when he
> wrote his autobiographical novel, Night there is no mention of gas
> chambers. He has been caught in lie after lie and yet to this day he
> holds to his story in spite of a great deal of evidence that he has
> been less than truthful.

> In an account of Wiesel’s time at Auschwitz, he claims that, while
> working, he injured his foot and had to spend some time in the camp
> infirmary. Of course, this begs the question as to why a camp which
> was built, ostensibly, to annihilate Jews would even have an
> infirmary. Does it make any sense that a place built for the sole
> purpose of killing Jews on a large scale would bother having an
> infirmary staffed with doctors and nurses? And if Wiesel, then a 15
> year old boy with an injured foot, could not even work, why would they
> not just kill him on the spot?

> What really convinced me that Wiesel is a liar is that, as the Russian
> army approached Auschwitz and liberation was on the horizon, why, when
> given the chance of remaining in the camp to be freed by the Soviets
> or to evacuate with the Germans, Wiesel decided, along with about
> 20,000 other survivors, to leave with the Germans? In light of what we
> have been taught about the Holocaust, why would someone leave with his
> tormentors, who, he claimed, were depraved mass murderers, instead of
> waiting for his liberators?

> It makes no sense whatsoever to rational people and it is to his
> eternal shame that Wiesel has been one of the worst offenders when it
> comes to selling Holocaust lies to an unsuspecting public, even
> winning the Nobel Peace Prize in the process. When President Jimmy
> Carter needed to choose someone to take charge of the President’s
> Commission on the Holocaust he chose an unapologetic liar, Elie
> Wiesel.

> A few weeks back, I watched the Oprah Winfrey show in which she
> escorted Mr. Wiesel around the grounds of Auschwitz. He showed great
> humility as he walked with Ms. Winfrey through the camp where he had
> been interned as a child, a performance which should be considered for
> an Academy Award in the category of keeping a poker face while
> continuing to recite the same old lies.

> Mr. Wiesel should be ashamed of himself.

> Our second liar is none other than Nazi-hunter extraordinaire, Simon
> Wiesenthal, who devoted his post war life to hunting down Nazi war
> criminals. According to Mark Webber, of the Institute For Historical
> Review:

> “Wiesenthal’s reputation as a moral authority is undeserved. The man
> whom The Washington Post has called the “Holocaust’s Avenging Angel”
> has a little known but well-documented record of reckless disregard
> for truth. He has lied about his own wartime experiences,
> misrepresented his postwar “Nazi-hunting” achievements, and has spread
> vile falsehoods about alleged German atrocities.”

> It is unclear what exactly happened during Wiesenthal’s war years,
> since he has said various things at various times that are completely
> at odds with one another. There were accusations that he was, at one
> time, a Communist fighter, and still others that he was a Nazi
> collaborator, an accusation leveled against him by Austrian Chancellor
> Bruno Kreisky, who said:

> “I really know Mr. Wiesenthal only from secret reports, and they are
> bad, very nasty. I say this as Federal Chancellor … And I say that
> Mr. Wiesenthal had a different relationship with the Gestapo than I
> did. Yes, and this can be proven. I can’t say more [now]. Everything
> else, I’ll say in court.

> My relationship with the Gestapo is unambiguous. I was their prisoner,
> their inmate, and I was interrogated. His relationship was a different
> one, I can say, and this will come out clearly. It’s bad enough what
> I’ve already said here. But he can’t clear himself by charging me with
> defaming his honor in the press, as he might wish. It’s not that
> simple, because that would mean a big court case … A man like this
> doesn’t have the right to pretend to be a moral authority. That’s what
> I say. He doesn’t have the right …

> Whether a man who, in my view, is an agent, yes, that’s right, and who
> uses Mafia methods …

> Such a man has to go….

> He is no gentleman, and I would say, to make this clear, so that he
> won’t become a moral authority, because he is not … He shouldn’t
> pretend to be a moral authority …

> I say that Mr. Wiesenthal lived in that time in the Nazi sphere of
> influence without being persecuted. Right? And he lived openly without
> being persecuted, right? Is that clear? And you perhaps know, if you
> know what was going on, that no one could risk that.

> He wasn’t a “submarine” … that is, submerged and in hiding, but
> instead, he was completely in the open without having to, well, ever
> risk persecution. I think that’s enough. There were so many
> opportunities to be an agent. He didn’t have to be a Gestapo agent.
> There were many other services.”

> Before Wiesenthal became famous for being a “Nazi hunter,” he had
> already made a name for himself spreading Holocaust propaganda,
> including the famous claim of Jewish fat being rendered and made into
> soap which was later proven to be a complete fabrication.

> In 1946, he published a book in which he included what he purported to
> be his own original sketches of the horrors going on in Mauthausen
> concentration camp. One of the drawings was of three inmates, tied to
> a post who had been murdered by the Germans. Unfortunately for Mr.
> Wiesenthal, this was soon exposed as a fraud, since the original
> drawing was an actual photograph of three German soldiers who had been
> executed by firing squad for spying and was found in a 1945 edition of
> Life Magazine.

> “The irresponsible character of this book is also shown by
> Wiesenthal’s extensive citation therein of the supposed “death bed
> confession” of Mauthausen Commandant Franz Ziereis, according to which
> four million were gassed to death with carbon monoxide at the nearby
> Hartheim satellite camp. This claim is totally absurd, and no serious
> Holocaust historian still accepts it. Also according to the Ziereis
> “confession” cited by Wiesenthal, the Germans supposedly killed
> another ten million people in Poland, Lithuania and Latvia. In fact,
> this fraudulent “confession” was obtained by torture.

> Years later, Wiesenthal was still lying about Mauthausen. In a 1983
> interview with the daily newspaper USA Today, he said of his
> experience in Mauthausen: “I was one of 34 prisoners alive out of
> 150,000 who had been put there. “This is a blatant falsehood. The
> years have apparently not been kind to Wiesenthal’s memory, because in
> his own autobiography he wrote that “almost 3,000 prisoners died in
> Mauthausen after the Americans liberated us on May 5, 1945.”

> Another former inmate, Evelyn Le Chene, reported in her standard work
> about Mauthausen that there were 64,000 inmates in the camp when it
> was liberated in May 1945. And according to the Encyclopaedia Judaica,
> at least 212,000 inmates survived internment in the Mauthausen camp
> complex.”

> Wiesenthal’s lies continued with his outrageous claims that millions
> of Jews were killed in “electrocution showers,” something that has
> since been completely debunked by historians. In 1975 and again in
> 1993, Weisenthal confessed that there were no extermination camps on
> German soil.

> “He thus implicitly conceded that the claims made at the postwar
> Nuremberg Tribunal and elsewhere that Buchenwald, Dachau and other
> camps in Germany proper were “extermination camps” are not true.”

> Wiesenthal lied yet again when he claimed that he was responsible for
> the capture and trial of Adolph Eichmann and because of his
> machinations, an innocent man by the name of Frank Walus was smeared
> and denounced (falsely) by Wiesenthal as being a Nazi war criminal.

> “It was only after an exhausting legal battle that the man who was
> vilified and physically attacked as “the butcher of Kielce” was
> finally able to prove that he had spent the war years as a peaceful
> farm laborer in Germany. Frank Walus died in August 1994, a broken and
> bitterly disappointed man. Wiesenthal’s recklessness in the Walus case
> should have been enough to permanently discredit him as a reliable
> investigator. But his Teflon reputation survived even this.”

> Wiesenthal kept the world enthralled with his hunt for the infamous
> “Angel of Death,” Dr. Josef Mengele who Weisenthal claimed had been
> sighted in various Latin-American countries. He played the role of
> “Nazi crime sleuth” with a vengeance, ultimately damaging his
> credibility with his outrageous claims.

> Wiesenthal was paid $75,000 annually for the use of his name at the
> Los Angeles Wiesenthal Centre and has been criticized widely for the
> commercializtion of the Holocaust. The director of Israels Yad Vashem
> Holocaust Centre said that: “Both the Center and Wiesenthal
> “commercialize” and “trivialize” the Holocaust.”

> It was Simon Wiesenthal who gave us the 11 million figure for the
> Holocaust, comprising 6 million Jews and another 5 million non-Jews.

> “Wiesenthal “threw out” the figure of “11 million who were murdered in
> the Holocaust — six million Jews and five million non-Jews,” said the
> Yad Vashem official. When asked why he gave these figures, Wiesenthal
> replied: “The gentiles will not pay attention if we do not mention
> their victims, too.” Wiesenthal “chose ‘five million (gentiles)’
> because he wanted a ‘diplomatic’ number, one that told of a large
> number of gentile victims but in no way was larger than that of Jews

> Towards the end of his life, Wiesenthal became disturbed by the claims
> made by “historical revisionists” and was particularly incensed by the
> work of David Duke. I’m sure that’s understandable in light of the
> fact that Wiesenthal was an adept and convincing liar and greatly
> feared having those lies exposed.

> What is particularly telling is that Simon Wiesenthal attempted
> suicide twice while in a concentration camp and both times he was
> taken to the infirmary to be nursed back to health. Surely such a
> thing would never happen in a place dedicated to exterminating every
> Jew in Europe.

> These two men, Wiesel and Wiesenthal, have come to represent the
> Holocaust. Mr. Wiesel is the consummate victim, the self-appointed
> guru of pathos and martyrdom, telling lies and fabricating aspects of
> the Holocaust in order to garner sympathy. Mr. Wiesenthal devoted his
> life to tracking down Nazi war criminals, seeking self-aggrandizement
> in the process, perhaps also trying to run from his troubling and
> largely fabricated past.

> These two men will go down in history as heroes, most likely, unless
> they are exposed, and rightly so, as charlatans and liars.

> Because that’s what they are.

ELIE WIESENTHAL was a Gestapo agent who sent dozens of Bukovina partizans
to the gallows. If he ever crossed the border into the Soviet Union he would
have been hung on the spot!

> Daniel
> http://toutsaufsarkozy.com/

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The poster using Arthur Franks is a fraud, and a homosexual pervert [me].
I sometimes use “Grosvenor of Canada” or often I use many
fraudulent names.
Garbage like me, Frank Arthur causes distrust among readers here.

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.
The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
Since I am insane, I say that I am not posting, even when I do.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show
on the gray tab [which only I can see] :
Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

Many people think that I am really gay Ken McVay, hehehe

“ArthurFranks” wrote in message
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> >On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 11:14:11 -0400, “Frank Arthur”
> >wrote:

>>>The poster using Frank Arthur IS a fraud.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
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– no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

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ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
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OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
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Subject: Bombardier Aircraft UNSAFE-Too Many Crashes in Europe & Japan! Airbus Get Another 82 Orders!!
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News report another crash involving another Bumbardier plane – this time
in Albania.

So far there are no deaths reported from the defective Bombardier Canada
airplane crashes.

Will the flight YOU take be the one where YOU and others get killed?

AVOID FLYING ON BOMBARDIER aircraft, and tell your friends likewise.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7089318.stm

Emirates orders 82 Airbus planes

The latest Emirates deal is worth more than $20bn for Airbus
Emirates has ordered 82 Airbus jets, in a deal worth more than $20bn
(£9.6bn) for the European plane-maker.

The Dubai-based airline is buying 70 of Airbus’ mid-sized A350 model,
and 11 Airbus A380 twin-deck super jumbos.

Announced at the start of the Dubai air show, Emirates said the new
planes would play “an important role” in the growth of both the
airline and Dubai.

Emirates added that it also had the option to purchase a further 50
A350 aircraft at a future date.

Rolls-Royce deal

If this additional order goes ahead, the final deal will be worth
about $32bn for Airbus.

Emirates airlines is placing great faith in our A350 XWB and A380
programmes as well as our company and we are rightfully proud
Airbus boss Tom Enders

The latest contract win for Airbus was also good news for British
engine-maker Rolls-Royce, as Emirates has chosen its units to power
the new planes.

It will be worth up to $8.4bn for Rolls-Royce if Emirates does go on
to buy the additional 50 A350 planes.

“Emirates airlines is placing great faith in our A350 XWB and A380
programmes as well as our company and we are rightfully proud,” said
Airbus president and chief executive Tom Enders.

The order is welcome good news for Airbus parent group EADS.

Last week EADS warned it may have to deepen planned restructuring and
job cuts after its losses for the July to September period worsened to
775m euros ($1.14bn; £541m), compared with 189m euros last year.

It already plans to cut 10,000 jobs at Airbus over the next four
years.

Airbus designs and makes its wings in the UK.

>The news stories below about Quantas seem to be dated January 2002.

>All the crashes caused by defective landing gear on the Bombardier Q400,
are
>being reported in the past few weeks – in other words NOW!!

>When all of Europe is dumping the Bombardier Q400, and suing Bombardier
for
>many billions, there is definitely something wrong with Bombardier!

>As well, the media report that there are at least another 2 crashes in
Japan
>with the Bombardier Q400 this year.

>Now, the European Safety Agency is demanding a “crisis meeting” with
Canadian
>officials, to discuss the risks to European travellers caused by the
defective
>Bombardier junk!! In a publicly issued statement, ESA promised to “take
all
>measures to ensure the safety of European passengers and citizens”.

>Competitors of Bumbardier, such as EMBRAER, BAC, and the US firms, must
really
>be having a field day, now that they can tell potential buyers about all
the
>crashes with Bombardier!!

>>On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:21:24 -0400, “Paul” wrote:
>>>”Craig Welch” wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]
>>>> Ned Kelly said:

>>>>>As well the European Union are saying that most European airlines are
now
>>>>>going to return all the Bombardier aircraft, following a number of
crashes in
>>>>>the past few weeks, costing many airlines untold millions in damages
due
>>>>>tounsafe Bombardier aircraft. Mind you airlines such as Horizon Air
and
>>>>>Quantasstill are flying Bombardier aircraft.

>>>> There are no Quantas Bombardier aircraft.

>>>> Craig http://www.wazu.jp/
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>>>I believe you are incorrect.

>>>http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb3078/is_200201/ai_n7819747

>>>http://www.smartmoney.com/news/on/index.cfm?story=ON-20071022-000552-
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Australian Jewry Still Trying To Shut Dr. Toben Down.

On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 21:53:49 -0500, in alt.revisionism “127.0.0.1”
<[email protected]> wrote:

December 03, 2006 12:15am

A RACE-HATE website operating from Adelaide has sparked a furious reaction
>from Australia’s top Jewish body.
The Executive Council of Australian Jewry is considering further legal
action against Dr Fredrick Toben, 62, from Wattle Park, who runs the
Adelaide Institute website.

Dr Toben was the subject of a Federal Court directive in 2002 preventing the
publication of material that vilified Jews.

Despite the court ordering him to remove such material from his website,
anti-Jewish articles are still accessible from the site.

The Executive Council of the Australian Jewry says the statements made on
the website contravene the Racial Discrimination Act.

Council past president, Jeremy Jones, says the organisation is now
considering legal action.

The move follows a national report finding that physical attacks against
Jews have reached a record high.

The report, released by the Executive Council of Australian Jewry,
identifies 156 physical attacks against Jews in the year to the end of
September. The data, which has been collected on a national level since
1989, chronicled other attacks including arson, threats ? via posters,
leaflets, email, telephone or sms ? and vandalism.

In the 12-month period, there were 442 attacks.

Dr Toben’s website was also flagged in the report.

“It is an ongoing concern and we are actively considering all options open
to us,” Mr Jones said.

The 2002 ruling found that the website had published material which implied
some Jews had exaggerated Jewish deaths in World War II for financial gain.

While Dr Toben has since published a disclaimer on his site outlining the
court-imposed restrictions, Mr Jones says the website’s content is still an
issue.

“There has been quite a lot of anti-Jewish material published on that site,”
he said. “Not exactly the same wording but the same kind of material.” The
website contains links to an array of anti-Semitic material including:

ARTICLES which question whether the Holocaust actually occurred.

CLAIMS that the death toll from the Holocaust has been exaggerated.

LINKS to another website blaming Jews for some of the biggest crimes in the
past century, including the 1999 Columbine High School massacre where 12
students were killed, the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing which killed 168
people and the September 11 terrorist attacks.

“The internet gives everybody a megaphone and a potential international
audience,” Mr Jones said.

“And if one person ? who would otherwise have had no reason to dislike
another human being ? forms negative opinions because of something put on a
website, the racist might be quite happy but all the rest of us have reason
to be concerned,” he said.

It is understood Dr Toben is overseas and he could not be reached for
comment.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,20861261-2682,00.html

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http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
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Kosher Nostra

On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:26:12 +0100, in soc.culture.polish “mkarwan”
wrote:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosher_Nostra

On 30 Mar 2007 23:27:30 -0700, in can.politics “Antigone”
wrote:

The media bosses who cover up heinous crimes committed by
fellow members of their tribe are the most evil of all. It
is an absolute DISASTER having a criminalistic ethnic gang,
called La Kosher Nostra by some, run the mass media in the
U.S. and other Western countries.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
In the past I’ve talked about the breakdown of law and order in Russia
in the wake of communist rule. The communists — which is to say, the
Jews — sucked the country dry and then headed for greener pastures.
At least most of them did. Some Jews stayed behind to squeeze still
more blood out of the Russian people. In several reports we’ve looked
at the trade in White sex slaves centered in Israel. Jewish organized
crime gangs kidnap Russian and Ukrainian girls — or in some cases
lure them to Israel with the promise of employment as secretaries or
housekeepers or nannies — and then force them to work as sex slaves
in Jewish brothels.

Other Jewish crime gangs in Russia exploit Russian children for the
pedophile market around the world. I reported on October 7, 2000, the
breakup of a child pornography ring operating from Moscow and selling
videos of Russian children, some of them only two or three years old,
being raped, sexually tortured, and even murdered. There actually are
perverts who obtain sexual gratification from viewing such horrors,
and child pornography is big business. The child-porn videos coming
>from Moscow sell for hundreds or even thousands of dollars to
pedophiles in the West. The pornographers in Moscow obtain children
>from Russian orphanages by bribing corrupt administrators at the
orphanages, or they simply kidnap them from public parks or
playgrounds. My report of October 7, 2000, was based on the breakup of
one child-porn operation in Moscow after an investigation by Italian
police and postal officials of the shipment of videos from Russia to
pedophiles in Italy. In that report I quoted from a Reuters news
dispatch datelined Naples, Italy, September 27. I’ll read you again
what I quoted in my report:

“Police said on Wednesday they had arrested eight Italians suspected
of belonging to a child-pornography ring that traded videos over the
Internet, including films of Russian children who were abused to
death. Police specializing in Internet crime told reporters that their
19-month investigation had given them enough information to begin
investigations into 1,700 people suspected of buying the material over
the Web. . . . They said three people in Moscow ran an operation to
kidnap children from orphanages, circuses, and public parks and film
them while they were forced to commit sexual acts. Police said they
had intercepted some 3,000 tapes and CDs and digital video discs of
child pornography, including some involving children only several
months old.” — end of quote —

These arrests were big news in Italy, where TV newsmen horrified
millions of Italians by broadcasting excerpts from of a couple of the
child-porn videos on a prime-time national television news program. I
reported that the newsmen responsible for the broadcast were
immediately fired by the news director of the government-run network,
Gad Lerner, a Jew, who obviously was very unhappy that the news had
gotten out.

Perverts in the United States also buy child-porn videos from Russia,
and I commented in my report of October 7, 2000, that in the United
States there was practically a media blackout on the Italian
investigation and the subsequent arrests in Italy and in Russia. But
there was an Associated Press release on September 29, two days after
the arrests. I’ll quote a few lines from that release:

“. . . [P]olice said they had broken up an online international child-
pornography ring, arrested eight Italians and three Russians, and
seized thousands of videos and photographs. The Russian-run ring,
which distributed an explicit catalog on the Internet, catered to
clients in the United States, Germany, and Italy. Its inventory
included films of children being tortured and killed. . . .
Investigators say the pornography ring produces and distributes images
showing children as young as two years old being sexually abused. Some
of the victims reportedly were stolen from orphanages, others from
families. Its catalog offers films of killings for about $20,000 and
images of people having sex with children for about half that.” — end
quote — That Associated Press release from September 29, 2000, was
virtually ignored by news media in the United States.

Then on January 4 of last year a man described by Federal authorities
as the U.S. West Coast distributor for a child-pornography ring
operating in Moscow was arrested in Walnut Creek, California. That was
Seth Bekenstein, a Jew. And at the time I thought, “At last! Now the
media cannot avoid reporting this filthy business to the American
people. There will be a hearing and a trial for Bekenstein, and the
whole story will come out.”

But of course, the story didn’t come out. The mass media did avoid
reporting anything about Bekenstein’s arrest or his trial. Even the
big newspapers in California were silent. The American public remained
completely ignorant of the whole business.

Do you understand what Bekenstein was doing? He was selling films to
thousands of American perverts that showed Russian children and
infants being raped, sexually tortured, and murdered. He was a part of
the operation that kidnapped, raped, sexually tortured, and murdered
these Russian children. Without people like Bekenstein to sell the
films, the business couldn’t have operated. He was placing wholesale
orders to Moscow for more films, new films, and wiring the money that
kept the operation going. He was as guilty as the people who actually
did the kidnapping, raping, torture, and murder.

Well, last month, on January 4, exactly a year after his arrest, Seth
Bekenstein, who has been out of jail on bond the whole time, was
sentenced to 18 months imprisonment after pleading guilty. That’s just
18 months for being a major part of an operation involving the most
horrific criminal activity imaginable — 18 months for raping,
torturing, and murdering hundreds of children for the gratification
of unspeakably perverted freaks. And there still hasn’t been a peep
about Bekenstein or the child-pornography operation in which he was
engaged in any major media outlets in the United States. So far as the
TV-watching public is concerned it never happened.

Imagine how differently the Bekenstein case would have been handled by
the courts if the Jews had decided that it served their interests to
make a cause celebre of it. Imagine what would have happened to
Bekenstein if the Jewish media had given him the 1998 Jasper, Texas,
treatment. Gruesome excerpts from the films he was peddling would be
shown on prime-time TV in America night after night. TV crews would
have interviewed some of Bekenstein’s customers and had them tell
everyone how much they enjoyed seeing little girls or little boys
sexually tortured. There would have been tearful interviews with the
Russian parents of some of the kidnapped children. The Jews would have
kept this up week after week and month after month, until the lemmings
all across America finally had gotten it and were screaming for
Bekenstein’s blood.

And, behold!, the Federal prosecutor would have seen the light and
realized that Bekenstein had not only violated a law against sending
child porn through the mail, he also was guilty of kidnapping, rape,
and murder. And the judge would have seen the light too. And
Bekenstein would be sitting on death row now, hoping that the other
inmates didn’t get their hands on him before he got his lethal
injection.

But the Jewish media bosses had no interest in punishing their fellow
tribesman for his exploitation of Russian children. After all, the
children were only Gentiles, only goyim. And their fellow tribesmen in
Israel were making a very good living in the sex-slave trade,
exploiting the older sisters of these Russian children. Why stir
things up? And they didn’t even have to tell the prosecutor and the
judge in the Bekenstein case to take it easy on Seth. The court system
already has become so corrupted in America that the prosecutor and the
judge understood without being told that they shouldn’t be too hard on
Bekenstein. And now this depraved monster will be back in business
again in a few months.

I’ll sum it up for you: our whole system of laws and government in
America has become media-driven. Until we drag the filthy creatures
controlling the mass media of news and entertainment out of their
offices and drive stakes through their hearts, the system will only
become more and more corrupt.
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

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Falsification of the Holocaust = HOLOHOAX according to internationally
highly respected Prof. Israel Shahak,

On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:38:32 GMT, in soc.culture.german “Salah Jafar”
wrote:

Falsification of the Holocaust

Letter to the editor by Prof. Israel Shahak,
published on 19 May 1989 in Kol Ha’ir, Jerusalem. Available online at:
http://www.kaiwan.com/codoh/newsdesk/890519.HTML

I disagree with the opinion of Haim Baram that the Israeli education
system has managed to instil a “Holocaust awareness” in its pupils (Kol Ha’Ir
12.5.89). It’s not an awareness of the Holocaust but rather the myth of the
Holocaust or even a falsification of the Holocaust (in the sense that “a
half-truth is worse than a lie”) which has been instilled here.
As one who himself lived through the Holocaust, first in Warsaw then in
Bergen-Belsen, I will give an immediate example of the total ignorance of
daily life during the Holocaust. In the Warsaw ghetto, even during the period
of the first massive extermination (June to October 1943), one saw almost no
German soldiers. Nearly all the work of administration, and later the work of
transporting hundreds of thousands of Jews to their deaths, was carried out by
Jewish collaborators. Before the outbreak of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising (the
planning of which only started after the extermination of the majority of Jews
in Warsaw), the Jewish underground killed, with perfect justification, every
Jewish collaborator they could find. If they had not done so the Uprising
could never have started. The majority of the population of the Ghetto hated
the collaborators far more than the German Nazis. Every Jewish child was
taught, and this saved the lives of some of them “if you enter a square
>from which there are three exits, one guarded by a German SS man, one by an
Ukrainian and one by a Jewish policeman, then you should first try to pass the
German, and then maybe the Ukrainian, but never the Jew”.
One of my own strongest memories is that, when the Jewish underground
killed a despicable collaborator close to my home at the end of February 1943,
I danced and sang around the still bleeding corpse together with the other
children. I still do not regret this, quite the contrary.
It is clear that such events were not exclusive to the Jews, the entire
Nazi success in easy and continued rule over millions of people stemmed from
the subtle and diabolical use of collaborators, who did most of the dirty work
for them. But does anybody now know about this? This, and not what is
“instilled” was the reality. Of the Yad Vashem (official state Holocaust
museum in Jerusalem – Ed.) theatre, I do not wish to speak at all. It, and
its vile exploiting, such as honouring South Africa collaborators with the
Nazis are truly beneath contempt.
Therefore, if we knew a little of the truth about the Holocaust, we would
at least understand (with or without agreeing) why the Palestinians are now
eliminating their collaborators. That is the only means they have if they
wish to continue to struggle against our limb-breaking regime.

Kind regards,

[Israel Shahak]

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
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http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
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Exposing the Holocaust–REVISIONIST HERESY = TRUTH!

On 12 Nov 2006 18:40:03 -0800, in alt.revisionism “[email protected]
wrote:

REVISIONIST HERESY

Just as there were no weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in Iraq prior
to the recent war-no Jews or gentiles were ever killed in gas
chambers or gas vans by the Nazis during World War 2. The
“intelligence experts” and “scholars” were and are wrong.
Whatever crimes and atrocities the Nazis and Hitler did commit, they
certainly did not include gassings of Jews nor anyone else. The
historians have blindly accepted the wildest pseudo-scientific nonsense
imaginable.

The Jews were still alive

The simplest reason for rejecting the Holocaust story is that the vast
majority of European Jews were still alive at the end of World War 2.
Professor Arthur Butz, the author of The Hoax of the Twentieth Century,
made this claim nearly thirty years ago-and he was absolutely correct
as the following quote from a credible, recent Jewish source shows.

The Jewish Week 11-28-2003
http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=8774&offset
=10&B1=1&author=Stewart%20Ain&issuedates=oneday&month=&day=&year
=&issuedate=20031128&keyword=
“Two new studies to determine the location of Jewish Holocaust
survivors, for use in making future allocations to the most needy,
differ widely on the number of survivors worldwide, The Jewish Week has
learned. Sergio Della Pergola, a demographer for the Institute of
Contemporary Jewry at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, found
1,092,000 survivors worldwide. Jacob Ukeles, a policy researcher in
Manhattan, found 688,000. The Ukeles survey, an update of one he
prepared in 2000 for the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against
Germany, found only minor differences from his previous effort.
Lawrence Eagleburger, chairman of the International Commission on
Holocaust Era Insurance Claims, commissioned both surveys. Eagleburger
had hoped to use the figures in determining how to distribute $13.2
million annually in humanitarian funds for needy survivors worldwide.”

Clearly, the numbers of “Jewish holocaust survivors” alive more
than fifty-five years after the war are so enormous that one must
surely wonder if any Jews at all perished in World War 2. Any
conservative and reasonable statistical analysis of population decline
over fifty-five years would surely conclude that there were more than
six million Jewish “holocaust survivors” alive at the end of the
war. No doubt, some innocent Jews were killed-but, there is no good
reason to believe Jewish deaths were statistically unusual for a long,
horrific war in which many tens of millions of innocent civilians were
killed of all nationalities. On the basis of numbers alone-the
generally accepted story is a monumental hoax. The continued worldwide
acceptance of that hoax, even in Germany, is a tribute to the enormous
power and influence of the supposed victms and the Jewish community in
general. The uniqueness of the alleged mass gassings has also appealed
to the darker side of the human imagination and gullibility.

The hoax has become a new religion which one must believe without
question or be condemned as “evil”-even imprisoned as in Germany
or Austria, and ruined as well. “Guilt for the holocaust” has come
to replace “original sin” for which all except the jewish victims
themselves must “bear responsibility.”

Friedrich Paul Berg
Learn everything at www.nazigassings.com
The “holocaust” is racist hate propaganda.
Nazi Gassings Never Happened!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]

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Looking for copy CDs of MICHELSOFT for world + Germany.

Will also consider 2008 Scott Catalogs on Cds.

Willing to pay reasonable in US$, or even send stamps
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If anyone in Europe, or Asia has them, kindly contact me at:
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From: Mirelle

Re: Edward M. Rosen, 400 Glendale Rd. #24E, Haverton, PA 19083,
SSN: 186-44-1491,
Date Of Birth: June-17-1953,

For Anyone Who Wants To Report His Tax Evasions To The Federal Governemat
Of The USA,
By Getting Kick Backs For Bumping People Up On Medical Waiting Lists

Or, perhaps useful info for ??

On Nov 5, 3:04 pm, “ElParedon” wrote:
> Send me the info Mirelle, I have a friend who is investigator, gets
> commission when he catches someone like him

Thieves like Edward Rosen, need to be stopped from stealing money not
only from the Federal Government, by tax evasion, also, stealing money
>from sick people who are so desperate they give money to shysters like
him in order to be bumped up on medical waiting lists!
Heck, I may as well give you the info now:

Edward M. Rosen, 400 Glendale Rd. #24E, Haverton, PA 19083,
SSN: 186-44-1491,
Date Of Birth: June-17-1953

For Anyone Who Wants To Report His Tax Evasions
To The Federal Governemat Of The USA, By Getting Kick Backs
For Bumping People Up On Medical Waiting Lists

Mirelle
> “Mirelle” wrote in message

> news:[email protected]

> > On Nov 4, 4:52 pm, Rosen the Chosen wrote:
> >> On Nov 4, 7:42 pm, Mirelle wrote:
> >> > >> The fact is that you made the effort, and for what purpose

> >> > The purpose was to give the good folks who are paying taxes your info
> >> > – in case anyone wanted to report you to the Federal Government for
> >> > tax evasion.
> >> > For taking money on the side – to bump people up on medical waiting
> > > lists. Illegal thing to do, eddie-boi.

> >> No

> > Yes.
> > It is illegal to not pay taxes on all income.
> > I may have to post your info again, you are such a thief!
> > Stealing money from the Federal Government, someone may actually turn
> > you in for it, now THAT would make you stop taking all the illegal, no
> > taxes paid on it – bribe money, for bumping people up on medical
> > waiting lists!
> > On top of it being illegal for tax evasion purposes, it is unethical,
> > since no one should get better health care just because they have the
> > money to bribe shysters like you!

> > Mirelle

> Send me the info Mirelle, I have a friend who is investigator, gets
> commission when he catches someone like him

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
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From: Mirelle

Re: Edward M. Rosen, 400 Glendale Rd. #24E, Haverton, PA 19083,
SSN: 186-44-1491,
Date Of Birth: June-17-1953,

For Anyone Who Wants To Report His Tax Evasions To The Federal Governemat Of
The USA, and IRS, By Getting Kick Backs For Bumping People Up On Medical
Waitiing Lists

Or, perhaps useful info for ??

On Nov 5, 3:04 pm, “ElParedon” wrote:
> Send me the info Mirelle, I have a friend who is investigator, gets
> commission when he catches someone like him

Thieves like Edward Rosen, need to be stopped from stealing money not
only from the Federal Government, by tax evasion, also, stealing money
>from sick people who are so desperate they give money to shysters like
him in order to be bumped up on medical waiting lists!
Heck, I may as well give you the info now:

Edward M. Rosen, 400 Glendale Rd. #24E, Haverton, PA 19083,
SSN: 186-44-1491,
Date Of Birth: June-17-1953

For Anyone Who Wants To Report His Tax Evasions
To The Federal Governemat Of The USA, By Getting Kick Backs
For Bumping People Up On Medical Waiting Lists

Mirelle
> “Mirelle” wrote in message

> news:[email protected]

> > On Nov 4, 4:52 pm, Rosen the Chosen wrote:
> >> On Nov 4, 7:42 pm, Mirelle wrote:
> >> > >> The fact is that you made the effort, and for what purpose

> >> > The purpose was to give the good folks who are paying taxes your info
> >> > – in case anyone wanted to report you to the Federal Government for
> >> > tax evasion.
> >> > For taking money on the side – to bump people up on medical waiting
> > > lists. Illegal thing to do, eddie-boi.

> >> No

> > Yes.
> > It is illegal to not pay taxes on all income.
> > I may have to post your info again, you are such a thief!
> > Stealing money from the Federal Government, someone may actually turn
> > you in for it, now THAT would make you stop taking all the illegal, no
> > taxes paid on it – bribe money, for bumping people up on medical
> > waiting lists!
> > On top of it being illegal for tax evasion purposes, it is unethical,
> > since no one should get better health care just because they have the
> > money to bribe shysters like you!

> > Mirelle

> Send me the info Mirelle, I have a friend who is investigator, gets
> commission when he catches someone like him

From [email protected] Tue May 6 10:38:37 EDT 2008
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It seems that the Moscow fags want another beating lesson again, this year.

>From: kjmcva
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.talk.royalty
>Subject: Re: Jewish Poofters bashed in Moscow
>Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 10:01:28 -0700

>On 1 Jun., 13:05, Charlie Pie wrote:
>> On May 28, 7:40 pm, “Binjamin Cram’er” wrote:

>> > Just watched a news report on a bunch of poofters (huge number of whom are yids)
>> > trying to get a “gay pride” (like there’s any such thing) parade happening in Moscow.

>> > The locals were less than enthused with these nonces poncing around, trying to get
>> >the Russians to lower their moral standards.

>> > Quite a few of the poofs copped a good ole fashioned smack in the chops from people
>> > in the crowd. The singer from “Right Said Fred” was one who copped a beauty.

>> > I dislike violence of any type, however it is good to see that decency is still something
>> > of value in Russia.

>> I though you were the lad from Right Said Fred ?
>> C.P.

>What a horrible man you are! Claiming violence and the use of
>democratic right to be decency!!! You should be ashame dof
>yourself!!! Intolerant people were and are the curse of humanity!
>Absolutely digusting! And on top anti-jewish! Were is the difference
>between you and Hitler … the same kind of thinking!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

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From: “Venceremos”
Subject: ONCE AGAIN ZYD PLOTS A RUSSIAN REVOLUTION-Like 1917?

RUSSIA BEWARE, BORIS AND MOISHE ARE GOING FOR THE THROAT,again!

‘I am plotting a new Russian revolution’

London exile ZYD Berezovsky says force necessary to bring down President
Putin

Ian Cobain and Matthew Taylor and Luke Harding in Moscow
Friday April 13, 2007
The Guardian

The Russian tycoon Boris Berezovsky has told the Guardian he is
plotting the violent overthrow of President Putin from his base in
Britain after forging close contacts with members of Russia’s ruling
elite.

In comments which appear calculated to enrage the Kremlin, and which
will further inflame relations between London and Moscow, the
multimillionaire claimed he was already bankrolling people close to
the president who are conspiring to mount a palace coup.

“We need to use force to change this regime,” he said. “It isn’t
possible to change this regime through democratic means. There can be
no change without force, pressure.” Asked if he was effectively
fomenting a revolution, he said: “You are absolutely correct.”

Although Mr Berezovsky, with an estimated fortune of £850m, may have
the means to finance such a plot, and although he enjoyed enormous
political influence in Russia before being forced into exile, he said
he could not provide details to back up his claims because the
information was too sensitive.

Last night the Kremlin denounced Mr Berezovsky’s comments as a
criminal offence which it believed should undermine his refugee status
in the UK.

Dmitry Peskov, the Kremlin’s chief spokesman, said: “In accordance
with our legislation [his remarks are] being treated as a crime. It
will cause some questions from the British authorities to Mr
Berezovsky. We want to believe that official London will never grant
asylum to someone who wants to use force to change the regime in
Russia.”

It will not be the first time the British government has faced
accusations from the Kremlin that it is providing a safe haven for Mr
Berezovsky. When he told a Moscow radio station last year that he
wanted to see Mr Putin overthrown by force, Jack Straw, then foreign
secretary, told the Commons that “advocating the violent overthrow of
a sovereign state is unacceptable” and warned the tycoon he could be
stripped of his refugee status.

Russian authorities subsequently sent an extradition request to
London. That failed, however, when a district judge ruled Mr
Berezovsky could not be extradited as long as he has asylum status.

In an interview with the Guardian, however, Mr Berezovsky goes much
further than before, claiming to be in close contact with members of
Russia’s political elite who, he says, share his view that Mr Putin is
damaging Russia by rolling back democratic reforms, smothering
opposition, centralising power and flouting the country’s
constitution.

“There is no chance of regime change through democratic elections,” he
says. “If one part of the political elite disagrees with another part
of the political elite – that is the only way in Russia to change the
regime. I try to move that.”

While declining to describe these contacts – and alleging that they
would be murdered if they were identified – he maintained that he was
offering his “experience and ideology” to members of the country’s
political elite, as well as “my understanding of how it could be
done”. He added: “There are also practical steps which I am doing now,
and mostly it is financial.”

Mr Berezovsky said he was unconcerned by any threat to strip him of
his refugee status. “Straw wasn’t in a position to take that decision.
A judge in court said it wasn’t in the jurisdiction of Straw.”

He added that there was even less chance of such a decision being
taken following the polonium-210 poisoning last November of his former
employee, Alexander Litvinenko. “Today the reality is different
because of the Litvinenko case.”

Mr Berezovsky, 61, a former mathematician, turned to business during
the Yeltsin years and made his fortune by capturing state assets at
knockdown prices during Russia’s rush towards privatisation.

Although he played a key role in ensuring Mr Putin’s victory in the
2000 presidential elections, the two men fell out as the newly elected
leader successfully wrested control of Russia back from the so-called
oligarchy, the small group of tycoons who had come to dominate the
country’s economy.

A few months after the election Mr Berezovsky fled Russia, and applied
successfully for asylum in the UK after Mr Litvinenko, an officer with
the KGB’s successor, the FSB, came forward to say he had been ordered
to murder the tycoon.

Mr Berezovsky changed his name to Platon Elenin, Platon being the name
of a character in a Russian film based loosely upon his life. He was
subsequently given a British passport in this name.

As well as claiming to be financing and encouraging coup plotters in
Moscow, Mr Berezovsky said he had dedicated much of the last six years
to “trying to destroy the positive image of Putin” that many in the
west held, portraying him whenever possible as a dangerously anti-
democratic figure. He said he had also opposed the Russian president
through Kommersant, the influential Russian newspaper which he
controlled until last year.

Last month Mr Berezovsky was questioned by two detectives from the
Russian prosecutor general’s office who were in London to investigate
the death of Mr Litvinenko. He has denied claims that he refused to
answer many of their questions.

Last night the Kremlin said Russian authorities might want to question
him again in the light of his interview with the Guardian. “I now
believe our prosecutor general’s office has got lots of questions for
Mr Berezovsky,” said Mr Peskov. He added: “His words are very
interesting. This is a very sensitive issue.”

The Foreign Office said it had nothing to add to Mr Straw’s comments
of last year.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
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NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

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IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 23:54:04 GMT, in can.politics “Moishe Lipschitz” wrote:

http://www.theunjustmedia.com/jew%20organized%20crime.htm

For the real TRUTH about ZYDS, visit the world top-rated website
for ZYDS= JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

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ZYD CRIMES IN RUSSIA EXPOSED FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE
No wonder normal people hate the filthy Christkiller ZYDS, still after more
than 2000 years!

On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:23:48 -0400, in soc.culture.canada “serwad”
wrote:

Solzhenitsyn breaks last taboo of the revolution

Nobel laureate under fire for new book on the role of ZYDS/Jews in
Soviet-era repression

Alexander Solzhenitsyn, who first exposed the horrors of the Stalinist
gulag, is now attempting to tackle one of the most sensitive topics of his
writing career – the role of the Jews in the Bolshevik revolution and Soviet
purges.
In his latest book Solzhenitsyn, 84, deals with one of the last taboos of
the communist revolution: that Jews were as much perpetrators of the
repression as its victims. Two Hundred Years Together – a reference to the
1772 partial annexation of Poland and Russia which greatly increased the
Russian Jewish population – contains three chapters discussing the Jewish
role in the revolutionary genocide and secret police purges of Soviet
Russia.

But Jewish leaders and some historians have reacted furiously to the book,
and questioned Solzhenitsyn’s motives in writing it, accusing him of factual
inaccuracies and of fanning the flames of anti-semitism in Russia.
Solzhenitsyn argues that some Jewish satire of the revolutionary period
“consciously or unconsciously descends on the Russians” as being behind the
genocide. But he states that all the nation’s ethnic groups must share the
blame, and that people shy away from speaking the truth about the Jewish
experience.

In one remark which infuriated Russian Jews, he wrote: “If I would care to
generalise, and to say that the life of the Jews in the camps was especially
hard, I could, and would not face reproach for an unjust national
generalisation. But in the camps where I was kept, it was different. The
Jews whose experience I saw – their life was softer than that of others.”

Yet he added: “But it is impossible to find the answer to the eternal
question: who is to be blamed, who led us to our death? To explain the
actions of the Kiev cheka [secret police] only by the fact that two thirds
were Jews, is certainly incorrect.”

Solzhenitsyn, awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1970, spent much of
his life in Soviet prison camps, enduring persecution when he wrote about
his experiences. He is currently in frail health, but in an interview given
last month he said that Russia must come to terms with the Stalinist and
revolutionary genocides – and that its Jewish population should be as
offended at their own role in the purges as they are at the Soviet power
that also persecuted them.

“My book was directed to empathise with the thoughts, feelings and the
psychology of the Jews – their spiritual component,” he said. “I have never
made general conclusions about a people. I will always differentiate between
layers of Jews. One layer rushed headfirst to the revolution. Another, to
the contrary, was trying to stand back. The Jewish subject for a long time
was considered prohibited. Zhabotinsky [a Jewish writer] once said that the
best service our Russian friends give to us is never to speak aloud about
us.”

But Solzhenitsyn’s book has caused controversy in Russia, where one Jewish
leader said it was “not of any merit”.

“This is a mistake, but even geniuses make mistakes,” said Yevgeny
Satanovsky, president of the Russian Jewish Congress. “Richard Wagner did
not like the Jews, but was a great composer. Dostoyevsky was a great Russian
writer, but had a very sceptical attitude towards the Jews.

“This is not a book about how the Jews and Russians lived together for 200
years, but one about how they lived apart after finding themselves on the
same territory. This book is a weak one professionally. Factually, it is so
bad as to be beyond criticism. As literature, it is not of any merit.”

But DM Thomas, one of Solzhenitsyn’s biographers, said that he did not think
the book was fuelled by anti-semitism. “I would not doubt his sincerity. He
says that he firmly supports the state of Israel. In his fiction and factual
writing there are Jewish characters that he writes about who are bright,
decent, anti-Stalinist people.”

Professor Robert Service of Oxford University, an expert on 20th century
Russian history, said that from what he had read about the book,
Solzhenitsyn was “absolutely right”.

Researching a book on Lenin, Prof Service came across details of how
Trotsky, who was of Jewish origin, asked the politburo in 1919 to ensure
that Jews were enrolled in the Red army. Trotsky said that Jews were
disproportionately represented in the Soviet civil bureaucracy, including
the cheka.

“Trotsky’s idea was that the spread of anti-semitism was [partly down to]
objections about their entrance into the civil service. There is something
in this; that they were not just passive spectators of the revolution. They
were part-victims and part-perpetrators.

“It is not a question that anyone can write about without a huge amount of
bravery, and [it] needs doing in Russia because the Jews are quite often
written about by fanatics. Mr Solzhenitsyn’s book seems much more measured
than that.”

Yet others failed to see the need for Solzhenitsyn’s pursuit of this
particular subject at present. Vassili Berezhkov, a retired KGB colonel and
historian of the secret services and the NKVD (the precursor of the KGB),
said: “The question of ethnicity did not have any importance either in the
revolution or the story of the NKVD. This was a social revolution and those
who served in the NKVD and cheka were serving ideas of social change.

“If Solzhenitsyn writes that there were many Jews in the NKVD, it will
increase the passions of anti-semitism, which has deep roots in Russian
history. I think it is better not to discuss such a question now.”

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Why Jews/ZYDs Are Still a Real Problem, Simplified
Basically, people for the past more than 2000 years can not trust
the Christkiller ZYDS!

On 12 Oct 2006 11:13:47 -0700, in uk.politics.misc “Magnus” wrote:

Why Jews Are a Problem, Simplified

Contrary to what you have probably heard, Jews were the world’s first
racists. They created racist ideas, as official doctrine, long before
Christianity or Islam existed.

Jews claimed that they were superior to all other humans [i.e. that
they were “The Chosen People”]. They did this mainly to keep
themselves apart from other groups of people so that their genetic
strain would not be ‘polluted.’

Then, many years later, the French leader Napoleon ‘freed’ the Jews
[he granted them various rights that they did not previously have],
and Jews became part of White European society. Their bigoted, racist,
money-oriented ways did not endear them to the benevolent Europeans.

So-called “anti-Semitism” resulted from that gentile/Jewish contact in
Europe, and became the norm. European attitudes about Jews became
worse when Jews overtook Russia in 1917. That event resulted in, or at
least coincided with, a worldwide Jewish revolution. Within that
revolution, Jews tried different methods of conquering the gentile-
dominated world that had ‘oppressed’ them for years: some Jews tried
Communism, some tried global capitalism, some tried feminism, some
tried leftism. All such ideas were designed to weaken traditional
gentile culture so that Jews, as both a religion and a race by long
interbreeding among themselves, would never be ‘oppressed’ again.

Jews dominate the West today by controlling the media, Hollywood,
banking/finance, left-wing political causes, and other areas of
Western culture. They are smarter than gentiles as a rule, and are
much more ruthless and cunning. They do not have White morals; they do
not feel guilty about cheating a non-Jew. They are not White even
though they appear to be so. They are basically aliens living among
Whites. Some people have likened Jews to invaders from another planet
who look human; that description seems reasonable as a whole.

Furthermore, Jews see themselves as being in a perpetual war with non-
Jews. They are willing to go to further racial and political extremes
than gentiles, because they take that ongoing “war” with gentiles more
seriously than non-Jews do. Therefore, Jews will lie, cheat and steal
more readily than a non-Jew. This, in our opinion, makes Jews a
security risk within all Western countries.

Also, Jews are in deep, pathological denial about why gentiles do not
like them. A Jew will engage in lying to and swindling non-Jews, and
then will wonder with complete honesty why gentiles do not like Jews.
Jews seem unable to grasp the fact that their actions are unsavory to
gentiles. In fact, we suggest that this blindness of Jews to the many
unsavory aspects of Jewry is actually a form of mental illness,
although it will never be labeled as such.

While there are, no doubt, a few ‘good’ Jews in the West, their
numbers are very small. Jews cannot be counted on to preserve White
values since they are not White.

Jews are the greatest enemy of traditional Western culture.

********************

See the following for many links on Jews and Judaism:
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

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Immer die verfluechte Juden seit 2000 Jahren! Vergiss niemals die verfluechte
Juden.

>On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:45:26 -0400, in alt.revisionism Gallows Cheater
> wrote:

>http://www.rense.com/general34/ZAND.HTM

>Zionism And The Third Reich
>By Mark Weber
>Institute for Historical Review
>2-8-3

>Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the German
>port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name, “Tel
>Aviv,” while a swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the
>ship was Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member.
>Many years later a traveler aboard the ship recalled this symbolic
>combination as a “metaphysical absurdity.”1 Absurd or not, this is but one
>vignette from a little-known chapter of history: The wide-ranging
>collaboration between Zionism and Hitler’s Third Reich.

>Common Aims

>Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
>the “Jewish question”: that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
>non-Jewish society? During the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National
>Socialists shared similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue.
>They agreed that Jews and Germans were distinctly different nationalities,
>and that Jews did not belong in Germany. Jews living in the Reich were
>therefore to be regarded not as “Germans of the Jewish faith,” but rather
>as members of a separate national community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism)
>also implied an obligation by Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine,
>the “Jewish homeland.” They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
>Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any
>other “foreign” country.
>
>Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained that
>anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
>understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and attitudes.
>The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize reality and live in
>a separate state of their own. “The Jewish question exists wherever Jews
>live in noticeable numbers,” he wrote in his most influential work, The
>Jewish State. “Where it does not exist, it is brought in by arriving
>Jews … I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which is a very complex
>phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew, without hate or fear.”
>The Jewish question, he maintained, is not social or religious. “It is a
>national question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
>political issue …” Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews
>constitute not merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a
>Volk.2 Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered the world a welcome “final solution of
>the Jewish question.”3
>
>Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of Germany (by
>far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a detailed
>memorandum to the new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and
>formally offered Zionist support in “solving” the vexing “Jewish question.”
>The first step, it suggested, had to be a frank recognition of fundamental
>national differences: 4
>
>Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition, which
>consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in the fault of
>an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one’s own tradition.
>Zionism recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist
>trend, symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear …
>
>Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people, which is
>now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its Christian and national
>character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
>Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a sense
>of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping of its
>existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the liberal era
>must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community and collective
>responsibility …
>
>We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that can,
>through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question, take a
>decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will have to be
>dealt with by most European peoples …
>
>Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and sincere
>relationship to the German people and its national and racial realities.
>Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals, because we,
>too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining the purity of the
>Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the cultural domain, we — having
>been brought up in the German language and German culture — can show an
>interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration and
>internal sympathy …
>
>For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the collaboration of
>even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews, because in dealing with
>the Jewish question not sentimentalities are involved but a real problem
>whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment especially
>the German people … Boycott propaganda — such as is currently being
>carried on against Germany in many ways — is in essence un-Zionist,
>because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and to build …
>
>We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will continue
>to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe disadvantages
>result for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions for other peoples.
>The Federation’s paper, the Jüdische Rundschau (“Jewish Review”),
>proclaimed the same message: “Zionism recognizes the existence of a Jewish
>problem and desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this
>purpose Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether
>pro- or anti-Jewish, because, in its view, we are dealing here with a
>concrete rather than a sentimental problem, the solution of which all
>peoples are interested.”5 A young Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz, who later
>settled in the United States and became head of the American Jewish
>Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden (“We Jews”), that the National
>Socialist revolution in Germany meant “Jewry for the Jews.” He
>explained: “No subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we
>desire a new concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race.” 6
>
>Active Collaboration
>
>On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and nationhood,
>National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what each group
>believed was in its own national interest. As a result, the Hitler
>government vigorously supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine
>from 1933 until 1940-1941, when the Second World War prevented extensive
>collaboration.
>
>Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews, probably a
>majority, continued to regard themselves, often with considerable pride, as
>Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about pulling up roots to begin a new
>life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews turned
>to Zionism during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement
>flourished in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist
>Federation’s bi-weekly Jüdische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist
>books were published. “Zionist work was in full swing” in Germany during
>those years, the Encyclopaedia Judaica notes. A Zionist convention held in
>Berlin in 1936 reflected “in its composition the vigorous party life of
>German Zionists.”7
>
>The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An internal
>June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging support for
>Zionism by the government and the Party as the best way to encourage
>emigration of Germany’s Jews to Palestine. This would require increased
>Jewish self-awareness. Jewish schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish
>cultural organizations — in short, everything that would encourage this
>new consciousness and self-awareness – should be promoted, the paper
>recommended.8
>
>SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official Kurt
>Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess Zionist
>development there. Based on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein
>wrote a series of twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin
>daily Der Angriff that appeared in late 1934 under the heading “A Nazi
>Travels to Palestine.” The series expressed great admiration for the
>pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish settlers. Zionist
>self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had produced a new kind of Jew. He
>praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
>entire world. A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding
>article, “pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of
>the world: the Jewish question.” Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a
>Swastika on one side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the
>joint SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
>Mildenstein was promoted to head the Jewish affairs department of the SS
>security service in order to support Zionist migration and development more
>effectively. 9
>
>The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support for
>Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: “The time may not be too far
>off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who have been
>lost to it for more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with
>official goodwill, go with them.”10 Four months later, a similar article
>appeared in the SS paper: 11
>
>The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not on
>religion leads the German government to guarantee without reservation the
>racial separateness of this community. The government finds itself in
>complete agreement with the great spiritual movement within Jewry, the
>so-called Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around
>the world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
>Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role in the
>future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.
>
>A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service from
>Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing “strictly kosher
>food on its ships, under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate.” 12 With
>official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to “reeducate” Germany’s Jews.
>As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his 1985 survey, The Third
>Reich and the Palestine Question: “Zionists were encouraged to take their
>message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
>Palestine and generally to educate German Jews about Palestine. There was
>considerable pressure to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying
>themselves as Germans and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in
>them.” 13
>
>In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist Federation of
>Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation: “The Gestapo did
>everything in those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine.
>We often received their help when we required anything from other
>authorities regarding preparations for emigration.” 14
>
>At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
>adopted the so-called “Nuremberg laws” that prohibited marriages and sexual
>relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed the Jews an
>alien minority nationality. A few days later the Zionist Jüdische Rundschau
>editorially welcomed the new measures: 15
>
>Germany … is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress when it
>declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national minority. Once the
>Jews have been stamped a national minority it is again possible to
>establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The new
>laws give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life, its own
>national life. In future it will be able to shape its own schools, its own
>theatre, and its own sports associations. In short, it can create its own
>future in all aspects of national life …
>
>Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for itself,
>and is offering state protection for this separate life of the Jewish
>minority: Jewry’s process of growth into a nation will thereby be
>encouraged and a contribution will be made to the establishment of more
>tolerable relations between the two nations. Georg Kareski, the head of
>both the “Revisionist” Zionist State Organization and the Jewish Cultural
>League, and former head of the Berlin Jewish Community, declared in an
>interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end of 1935: 16
>
>For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural affairs
>of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for living
>together without conflict… I have long supported such a separation,
>provided it is founded on respect for the alien nationality. The Nuremberg
>Laws … seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform entirely
>with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect… This
>interruption of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities,
>which had been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a
>Jewish point of view, entirely welcome.
>
>Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S. Wise,
>president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish Congress,
>told a New York rally in June 1938: “I am not an American citizen of the
>Jewish faith, I am a Jew… Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
>Jewish people a race and we are a race.” 17 The Interior Ministry’s Jewish
>affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard Lösener, expressed support for Zionism in
>an article that appeared in a November 1935 issue of the official
>Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18
>
>If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them were
>settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely resolved
>today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of opposition to the
>ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the Zionists,
>because they realize at once that these laws represent the only correct
>solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation must have its own
>state as the outward expression of its particular nationhood.
>
>In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
>network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany
>where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
>Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German flag,
>Jews were specifically guaranteed the right to display the blue and white
>Jewish national banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel
>was flown at the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler’s Germany. 19
>
>Himmler’s security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
>underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid Haganah
>official Feivel Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and
>for help in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the
>Haganah was kept well informed about German plans by a spy it managed to
>plant in the Berlin headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even
>included secret deliveries of German weapons to Jewish settlers for use in
>clashes with Palestinian Arabs. 21 In the aftermath of the November
>1938 “Kristallnacht” outburst of violence and destruction, the SS quickly
>helped the Zionist organization to get back on its feet and continue its
>work in Germany, although now under more restricted supervision. 22
>
>Official Reservations
>
>German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party officials
>were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful Jewish communities
>in the United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize “their”
>governments and fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry
>remained implacably hostile toward National Socialist Germany, and as long
>as the great majority of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to
>resettle in the Zionist “promised land,” a sovereign Jewish state in
>Palestine would not really “solve” the international Jewish question.
>Instead, German officials reasoned, it would immeasurably strengthen this
>dangerous anti-German campaign. German backing for Zionism was therefore
>limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
>control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23
>
>A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats in June
>1937, would not be in Germany’s interest because it would not be able to
>absorb all Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional
>power base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served
>as a base for international Communism.24 Reflecting something of a shift in
>official policy, the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937
>for Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
>tension and conflict between Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply
>increasing. 25
>
>A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in spite
>of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, “it would nevertheless be a
>mistake to assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure
>in Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the anti-German
>agitation of international Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation
>of a Palestine Jewish state would help the peaceful development of the
>nations of the world.”26 “The proclamation of a Jewish state or a
>Jewish-administrated Palestine,” warned an internal memorandum by the
>Jewish affairs section of the SS, “would create for Germany a new enemy,
>one that would have a deep influence on developments in the Near East.”
>Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state “would work to bring
>special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
>legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry.”27 In January
>1939, Hitler’s new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise
>warned in another circular bulletin that “Germany must regard the formation
>of a Jewish state as dangerous” because it “would bring an international
>increase in power to world Jewry.” 28
>
>Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938 and, in
>spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and misgivings
>that his policies might contribute to the formation of a Jewish state,
>decided to support Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The
>prospect of ridding Germany of its Jews, he concluded, outweighed the
>possible dangers. 29
>
>Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic restrictions on
>Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and 1939. In response, the
>SS security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
>Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
>Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several convoys of
>ships succeeded in reaching Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish
>migration, both legal and illegal, from Germany (including Austria) to
>Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and 1939. Another 10,000 Jews were
>scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the outbreak of war in September
>brought the effort to an end. All the same, German authorities continued to
>promote indirect Jewish emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30
>Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized
>Zionist “kibbutz” training camp for potential emigrants continued to
>operate in Hitler’s Germany. 31
>
>The Transfer Agreement
>
>The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era was the
>Transfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of German Jews to
>migrate to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
>Haavara (Hebrew for “transfer”), was concluded in August 1933 following
>talks between German officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of
>the Jewish Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization.
>32
>
>Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine deposited
>money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to purchase
>German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps, fertilizer, and
>so forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
>Jewish-owned Haavara company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to
>the Jewish emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount
>corresponding to his deposit in Germany. German goods poured into Palestine
>through the Haavara, which was supplemented a short time later with a
>barter agreement by which Palestine oranges were exchanged for German
>timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and other goods. The Agreement
>thus served the Zionist aim of bringing Jewish settlers and development
>capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the German goal of
>freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.
>
>Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated the
>merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine the
>international Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist
>officials reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the
>Haavara arrangement, stressed that the Agreement was not economically
>advantageous to Germany. Arthur Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration
>specialist who had helped negotiate the pact, pointed out that “the
>Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the boycott movement, since no
>new currency will flow into Germany as a result of the agreement…” 33 The
>1935 Zionist Congress, meeting in Switzerland, overwhelmingly endorsed the
>pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the Zionist “shadow government” in
>Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha’avara, which remained in
>effect until the Second World War forced its abandonment.
>
>Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany’s Consul General in
>Jerusalem, Hans Döhle, for example, sharply criticized the Agreement on
>several occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the
>foreign exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
>would bring if sold elsewhere. The Haavara monopoly sale of German goods to
>Palestine through a Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and
>Arabs there. Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of
>German markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
>resented the arrangement.34 A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal
>bulletin referred to the “foreign exchange sacrifices” that resulted from
>the Haavara. 35
>
>A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry reviewed
>the impact of the Transfer Agreement: “There is no doubt that the Haavara
>arrangement has contributed most significantly to the very rapid
>development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided not only the
>largest source of money (from Germany!), but also the most intelligent
>group of immigrants, a nd finally it brought to the country the machines
>and industrial products essential for development.” The main advantage of
>the pact, the memo reported, was the emigration of large numbers of Jews to
>Palestine, the most desirable target country as far as Germany was
>concerned. But the paper also noted the important drawbacks pointed out by
>Consul Döhle and others. The Interior Minister, it went on, had concluded
>that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the advantages and
>that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36
>
>Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed the
>policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and each time
>decided to maintain the Haavara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
>Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37
>
>The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer company,
>the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria, through which
>Jews in foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine.
>Almost $900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews
>in Palestine.38 Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish
>emigration concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the
>Ha’avara. In 1937 Poland authorized the Halifin (Hebrew for “exchange”)
>transfer company. By late summer 1939, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and
>Italy had signed similar arrangements. The outbreak of war in September
>1939, however, prevented large-scale implementation of these agreements. 39

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But the filthy Christkiller ZYDS are still demanding billions from Christians
everywhere for the so-called HOLOHOAX!!

This, even though prominent ZYDs COLLABORATED with Nazis!

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:22:13 -0400, in soc.culture.jewish “ElParedon”
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> The Dynamic Duo Of Lies

> Written by Jayne Gardner

> Part of what helped me to finally understand that I had been lied to
> about the Holocaust was the very testimony of some of the more famous
> survivors. Reading what happened to them during the war made
> absolutely no sense when stacked up against what we were being told
> about the horrors endured by the Jews in Europe’s concentration camps.
> For instance, Elie Wiesel, a man who has come to personify the
> Holocaust, told of Jews being thrown into open pits of fire at
> Auschwitz, a fate that he only managed to escape by sheer chance.
> Here he differs from the majority of survivors who told of gas
> chambers being the instrument of death for the majority of camp
> inmates:

> “Forced to choose from among several Allied war propaganda lies, he
> chose to defend the fire lie instead of the boiling water, gassing, or
> electrocution lies. In 1956, when he published his testimony in
> Yiddish, the fire lie was still alive in certain circles. This lie is
> the origin of the term Holocaust. Today there is no longer a single
> historian who believes that Jews were burned alive. The myths of the
> boiling water and of electrocution have also disappeared. Only the gas
> remains.”

> “In his autobiography, Wiesel writes:

> “Not far from us, flames were leaping up from a ditch, gigantic
> flames. They were burning something there. A lorry drew up at the pit
> and delivered its load – little children. Babies! Yes, I saw it – saw
> it with my own eyes. those children in the flames. (Is it surprising
> that I could not sleep after that? Sleep had fled from my eyes.) So
> this is where we were going. A little farther on was another and
> larger ditch for adults. [.] ‘Father,’ I said, ‘if that is so, I don’t
> want to wait here. I’m going to run to the electric wire. That would
> be better than slow agony in the flames.'”

> Compare this with the explanation given by Thies Christopherson in his
> article entitled Reflection On Auschwitz And West German Justice:

> “At first, those who died at Auschwitz were buried, but because of the
> high ground water level (one meter) in this area between the Vistula
> and Sola rivers, that practice couldn’t be continued. A labor team
> headed by SS Staff Sergeant Moll (who had been in charge of the
> agricultural nursery at Raisko) was assigned to dig up the buried
> corpses and burn them. This was done on an open fire. The most
> unbelievable stories were told about this procedure. West German
> television even broadcast a film of this which was supposedly made in
> secret by an SS man.”

> As Wiesel continues his story, he is saved by nothing short of a
> miracle:

> “Our line had now only fifteen paces to go. I bit my lips so that my
> father would not hear my teeth chattering. Ten steps still. Eight.
> Seven. We marched slowly on as though following a hearse at our own
> funeral. Four more steps. Three steps. There it was now, right in
> front of us, the pit and its flames. I gathered all that was left of
> my strength, so that I could break the ranks and throw myself upon the
> barbed wire. In the depth of my heart I bade farewell to my father, to
> the whole universe; and, in spite of myself, the words formed
> themselves and issued a whisper from my lips: Yitgadal veyitkadach
> shmé raba. May His name be blessed and magnified.. My heart was
> bursting. The moment had come. I was face to face with the Angel of
> Death. No. Two steps from the pit we were ordered to turn to the left
> and made to go into our barracks.”

> Mr. Wiesel’s lies are many and varied. When writing about the
> slaughter at Babi Yar, he wrote:

> “Later, I learn from a witness that, for month after month, the ground
> never stopped trembling; and that, from time to time, geysers of blood
> spurted from it.”

> He claimed that they killed 10,000 Jews a day at Buchenwald but some
> how, miraculously, he was always spared. Is it likely that one 15 year
> old boy could survive not one, but three concentration camps whose
> entire raison d’etre was to kill as many Jews as possible?

> It has been said that Elie Wiesel “is the Holocaust,” and yet when he
> wrote his autobiographical novel, Night there is no mention of gas
> chambers. He has been caught in lie after lie and yet to this day he
> holds to his story in spite of a great deal of evidence that he has
> been less than truthful.

> In an account of Wiesel’s time at Auschwitz, he claims that, while
> working, he injured his foot and had to spend some time in the camp
> infirmary. Of course, this begs the question as to why a camp which
> was built, ostensibly, to annihilate Jews would even have an
> infirmary. Does it make any sense that a place built for the sole
> purpose of killing Jews on a large scale would bother having an
> infirmary staffed with doctors and nurses? And if Wiesel, then a 15
> year old boy with an injured foot, could not even work, why would they
> not just kill him on the spot?

> What really convinced me that Wiesel is a liar is that, as the Russian
> army approached Auschwitz and liberation was on the horizon, why, when
> given the chance of remaining in the camp to be freed by the Soviets
> or to evacuate with the Germans, Wiesel decided, along with about
> 20,000 other survivors, to leave with the Germans? In light of what we
> have been taught about the Holocaust, why would someone leave with his
> tormentors, who, he claimed, were depraved mass murderers, instead of
> waiting for his liberators?

> It makes no sense whatsoever to rational people and it is to his
> eternal shame that Wiesel has been one of the worst offenders when it
> comes to selling Holocaust lies to an unsuspecting public, even
> winning the Nobel Peace Prize in the process. When President Jimmy
> Carter needed to choose someone to take charge of the President’s
> Commission on the Holocaust he chose an unapologetic liar, Elie
> Wiesel.

> A few weeks back, I watched the Oprah Winfrey show in which she
> escorted Mr. Wiesel around the grounds of Auschwitz. He showed great
> humility as he walked with Ms. Winfrey through the camp where he had
> been interned as a child, a performance which should be considered for
> an Academy Award in the category of keeping a poker face while
> continuing to recite the same old lies.

> Mr. Wiesel should be ashamed of himself.

> Our second liar is none other than Nazi-hunter extraordinaire, Simon
> Wiesenthal, who devoted his post war life to hunting down Nazi war
> criminals. According to Mark Webber, of the Institute For Historical
> Review:

> “Wiesenthal’s reputation as a moral authority is undeserved. The man
> whom The Washington Post has called the “Holocaust’s Avenging Angel”
> has a little known but well-documented record of reckless disregard
> for truth. He has lied about his own wartime experiences,
> misrepresented his postwar “Nazi-hunting” achievements, and has spread
> vile falsehoods about alleged German atrocities.”

> It is unclear what exactly happened during Wiesenthal’s war years,
> since he has said various things at various times that are completely
> at odds with one another. There were accusations that he was, at one
> time, a Communist fighter, and still others that he was a Nazi
> collaborator, an accusation leveled against him by Austrian Chancellor
> Bruno Kreisky, who said:

> “I really know Mr. Wiesenthal only from secret reports, and they are
> bad, very nasty. I say this as Federal Chancellor … And I say that
> Mr. Wiesenthal had a different relationship with the Gestapo than I
> did. Yes, and this can be proven. I can’t say more [now]. Everything
> else, I’ll say in court.

> My relationship with the Gestapo is unambiguous. I was their prisoner,
> their inmate, and I was interrogated. His relationship was a different
> one, I can say, and this will come out clearly. It’s bad enough what
> I’ve already said here. But he can’t clear himself by charging me with
> defaming his honor in the press, as he might wish. It’s not that
> simple, because that would mean a big court case … A man like this
> doesn’t have the right to pretend to be a moral authority. That’s what
> I say. He doesn’t have the right …

> Whether a man who, in my view, is an agent, yes, that’s right, and who
> uses Mafia methods …

> Such a man has to go….

> He is no gentleman, and I would say, to make this clear, so that he
> won’t become a moral authority, because he is not … He shouldn’t
> pretend to be a moral authority …

> I say that Mr. Wiesenthal lived in that time in the Nazi sphere of
> influence without being persecuted. Right? And he lived openly without
> being persecuted, right? Is that clear? And you perhaps know, if you
> know what was going on, that no one could risk that.

> He wasn’t a “submarine” … that is, submerged and in hiding, but
> instead, he was completely in the open without having to, well, ever
> risk persecution. I think that’s enough. There were so many
> opportunities to be an agent. He didn’t have to be a Gestapo agent.
> There were many other services.”

> Before Wiesenthal became famous for being a “Nazi hunter,” he had
> already made a name for himself spreading Holocaust propaganda,
> including the famous claim of Jewish fat being rendered and made into
> soap which was later proven to be a complete fabrication.

> In 1946, he published a book in which he included what he purported to
> be his own original sketches of the horrors going on in Mauthausen
> concentration camp. One of the drawings was of three inmates, tied to
> a post who had been murdered by the Germans. Unfortunately for Mr.
> Wiesenthal, this was soon exposed as a fraud, since the original
> drawing was an actual photograph of three German soldiers who had been
> executed by firing squad for spying and was found in a 1945 edition of
> Life Magazine.

> “The irresponsible character of this book is also shown by
> Wiesenthal’s extensive citation therein of the supposed “death bed
> confession” of Mauthausen Commandant Franz Ziereis, according to which
> four million were gassed to death with carbon monoxide at the nearby
> Hartheim satellite camp. This claim is totally absurd, and no serious
> Holocaust historian still accepts it. Also according to the Ziereis
> “confession” cited by Wiesenthal, the Germans supposedly killed
> another ten million people in Poland, Lithuania and Latvia. In fact,
> this fraudulent “confession” was obtained by torture.

> Years later, Wiesenthal was still lying about Mauthausen. In a 1983
> interview with the daily newspaper USA Today, he said of his
> experience in Mauthausen: “I was one of 34 prisoners alive out of
> 150,000 who had been put there. “This is a blatant falsehood. The
> years have apparently not been kind to Wiesenthal’s memory, because in
> his own autobiography he wrote that “almost 3,000 prisoners died in
> Mauthausen after the Americans liberated us on May 5, 1945.”

> Another former inmate, Evelyn Le Chene, reported in her standard work
> about Mauthausen that there were 64,000 inmates in the camp when it
> was liberated in May 1945. And according to the Encyclopaedia Judaica,
> at least 212,000 inmates survived internment in the Mauthausen camp
> complex.”

> Wiesenthal’s lies continued with his outrageous claims that millions
> of Jews were killed in “electrocution showers,” something that has
> since been completely debunked by historians. In 1975 and again in
> 1993, Weisenthal confessed that there were no extermination camps on
> German soil.

> “He thus implicitly conceded that the claims made at the postwar
> Nuremberg Tribunal and elsewhere that Buchenwald, Dachau and other
> camps in Germany proper were “extermination camps” are not true.”

> Wiesenthal lied yet again when he claimed that he was responsible for
> the capture and trial of Adolph Eichmann and because of his
> machinations, an innocent man by the name of Frank Walus was smeared
> and denounced (falsely) by Wiesenthal as being a Nazi war criminal.

> “It was only after an exhausting legal battle that the man who was
> vilified and physically attacked as “the butcher of Kielce” was
> finally able to prove that he had spent the war years as a peaceful
> farm laborer in Germany. Frank Walus died in August 1994, a broken and
> bitterly disappointed man. Wiesenthal’s recklessness in the Walus case
> should have been enough to permanently discredit him as a reliable
> investigator. But his Teflon reputation survived even this.”

> Wiesenthal kept the world enthralled with his hunt for the infamous
> “Angel of Death,” Dr. Josef Mengele who Weisenthal claimed had been
> sighted in various Latin-American countries. He played the role of
> “Nazi crime sleuth” with a vengeance, ultimately damaging his
> credibility with his outrageous claims.

> Wiesenthal was paid $75,000 annually for the use of his name at the
> Los Angeles Wiesenthal Centre and has been criticized widely for the
> commercializtion of the Holocaust. The director of Israels Yad Vashem
> Holocaust Centre said that: “Both the Center and Wiesenthal
> “commercialize” and “trivialize” the Holocaust.”

> It was Simon Wiesenthal who gave us the 11 million figure for the
> Holocaust, comprising 6 million Jews and another 5 million non-Jews.

> “Wiesenthal “threw out” the figure of “11 million who were murdered in
> the Holocaust — six million Jews and five million non-Jews,” said the
> Yad Vashem official. When asked why he gave these figures, Wiesenthal
> replied: “The gentiles will not pay attention if we do not mention
> their victims, too.” Wiesenthal “chose ‘five million (gentiles)’
> because he wanted a ‘diplomatic’ number, one that told of a large
> number of gentile victims but in no way was larger than that of Jews

> Towards the end of his life, Wiesenthal became disturbed by the claims
> made by “historical revisionists” and was particularly incensed by the
> work of David Duke. I’m sure that’s understandable in light of the
> fact that Wiesenthal was an adept and convincing liar and greatly
> feared having those lies exposed.

> What is particularly telling is that Simon Wiesenthal attempted
> suicide twice while in a concentration camp and both times he was
> taken to the infirmary to be nursed back to health. Surely such a
> thing would never happen in a place dedicated to exterminating every
> Jew in Europe.

> These two men, Wiesel and Wiesenthal, have come to represent the
> Holocaust. Mr. Wiesel is the consummate victim, the self-appointed
> guru of pathos and martyrdom, telling lies and fabricating aspects of
> the Holocaust in order to garner sympathy. Mr. Wiesenthal devoted his
> life to tracking down Nazi war criminals, seeking self-aggrandizement
> in the process, perhaps also trying to run from his troubling and
> largely fabricated past.

> These two men will go down in history as heroes, most likely, unless
> they are exposed, and rightly so, as charlatans and liars.

> Because that’s what they are.

ELIE WIESENTHAL was a Gestapo agent who sent dozens of Bukovina partizans
to the gallows. If he ever crossed the border into the Soviet Union he would
have been hung on the spot!

> Daniel
> http://toutsaufsarkozy.com/

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

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ZYD Ritual Moerder der Kinder / Ritual Murder of Children- Documented
No wonder so many good Christian people really dislike the filthy ZYDs
known as Christkillers after more than 2000 years!

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, in alt.politics.nationalism.white “Whip”
wrote:

ZYD/JEWISH RITUAL MURDERS” IN RUSSIA
FIVE CHILDREN FOUND DEAD IN PIT;
BLOOD DRAINED FROM BODIES!
CORPSES WERE SET ON FIRE TO HIDE BLOOD DRAINING

On April 16, 2005, just a week before the beginning the the Jewish Passover
on April 23, five children, Muslim and Christian, “disappeared” in the
Russian Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk. Their burnt bodies have been found in
a sewage pit.

A popular Russian daily, Komsomolskaya Pravda, writes today that many
Russians in the city are convinced that the children were ritually murdered
by local Jews who later burnt their bodies to conceal the crime and prevent
experts to find in the bodies the lack of blood which is used by Hasidic
Jews for ritual purposes.

Few people in the city believe that the Jewish murderers ever come to trial
and that the murders would be properly clarified by police investigaters in
present-day new democratic Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, the lawyer representing the interests of the parents of
the murdered children told the paper that 5 independent experts confirmed
the lack of hemoglobine (red substance in human blood) in all burnt bodies.

“I am sure that it was a ritual murder with exsanguination”, he said.

Evgeny Kazantsev, the Head of Untraditional Religious Groups Monitoring
Center, agrees that it was a ritual murder.

A Moscow independent researcher and journalist, Mikhail Nazarov, stresses
that there is a large Jewish community in Krasnoyarsk and that the
authorities do their best to conceal this ritual murder committed by the
Jews. A witness reported seeing the bodies of the children thrown intact in
the pit as proscribed by the Jewish ritual and then somebody burnt then to
conceal ritual wounds in specific places of the bodies made for the
exsanguination, Mr nazarov said.

The researcher reminded of a well-known case of the ritual murder of a
10-year-old Christian child, Andyusha Yushchinsky in Kiev in 1913. A local
Jewish community activist, Beilis, was arrested and accused of the murder
and later released by a court because of insufficient evidence, with a minor
overweight among the jury.

“The murder of Andryusha Yushchinsky also took place few day before the
Jewish Passover, his body was also exsanguinated and thrown off without
burial”, Mr Nazarov said.

“And Beilis belonged to the same Lubavichi Hasidic branch of Judaism as the
present Chief Rabbi of Russia Berl Lazar who … copies American gangstes
practises (he was born in the US) and acts with support of Jewish oligarchs,
the Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner and the Jewish Governor of the
Krasnoyarsk Territory Khloponin”, Mr. Nazarov added in his interview with
the Moscow paper.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/

On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:06:27 -0600, Frank Arthur wrote:

>A well researched and documented article,deserving re-posting worldwide.

>On 4 Apr 2007 21:01:42 -0700, in alt.politics.nationalism.white “dsfkfnir
>lfdsjsafd” wrote:

>BIBLIOGRAPHY OF WORKS SUPPORTING
>THE BLOOD ACCUSATION.

>Acta Sanctorum. This is the work of the Bollandists, who were a band
>of Jesuits devoting themselves to historical record between 1643 and
>1883. The volumes in which they recorded various ritual murders by
>Jews are mainly those written in the seventeenth century.

> Histoire Universelle de l’Englise Catholique, by Abbe Rohrbacher
>(Gaume et Freres, 1845).

> Lives of the Saints, by Alban Butler.

> Dizionario Ecclesiastico, Vol. 64-66 (Semenario Peo-scire, Venice,
>1853-4).

> Annales Ecclesiastici, ab 1198, p. 568, by O. Raynaldus, 1753. These
>two deal with the case of St. Simon of Trent.

> Catholic Bulletin, August, 1916 (published at Dublin, M. H. Gill &
>Sons).

> Cahiers Romains, Catholic publication in Rome, 29th November, 1913.

> Acts and Monuments of the Church, by John Foxe, 1563.

> A Short Demurrer to the Jewes long discontinued Remitter into
>England, by William Prynne, 1656.

> Les Juifs devant l’Eglise et l’ Histoire, by Rev. Father Constant.

> Meine Antworten an die Rabbiner: Funf Briefe uber den Talmudismus und
>das Blut-Ritual der Juden, by August Rohling (1883), Canon of Prague
>Cathedral.

> La France Juive, by Edouard Drumont. Obtainable from M. Petit, 12 rue
>Laugier, Paris 17. 70 francs.

> Le Juif, le Judaisme et la Judaisation des Peuples Chretiens, by
>Gougenot des Mousseaux, Chevalier, 1886. The whole of Chapter VI is
>devoted to Ritual Murders.

> Le Mystère du Sang chez les Juifs de tous les Temps, by Henri
>Desportes, 1889 (Savine).

> Le Crime Rituel chez les Juifs, by A. Monniot, 1914. Obtainable from
>M. Petit, 12 rue Laugier, Paris 17. 10 francs. An excellent general
>guide to the whole subject, with preface by Edouard Drumont. It was
>Drumont who exposed the Jewish Panama scandals.

> Der Ritual Mord bei den Juden, by Eugen Brandt.

> Ritual Morde, by Ottokar Stauf von der March (Hammer Verlag).

> Judische Moral und Blut Mysterium, by A. Fern, 1927.

> Der Ritual Mord, by G. Utikal. This book is recommended by the Reich
>Office for the Promotion of German Literature as “a truly national
>representation of Jewish Ritual Murder.”

> Das Blut in Judischen Schriftum, by Dr. Bischoff, 1929.

> Der Stürmer, Special Ritual Murder Issue, dated May, 1934, Nuremburg.
>The reader should not be prejudiced by the Jewish campaign of hate
>against the editor of Der Stürmer. The Ritual Murder issue is a
>valuable historical record.

> The Jew, the Gypsy, and El Islam, by Sir Richard Burton, edited by W.
>H. Wilkins (Hutchinson, 1898).

> Isabella of Spain, by W. T. Walsh, 1931 (Sheed & Ward), pp. 125,
>439-468, and 628.
>References to other authorities in particular cases of Ritual Murder
>are made in the text when describing these cases.

>To the above list should be added a recent work intended to clear the
>Jews from the Blood Accusation, but which, at least in my own opinion,
>appears to support it: — The Ritual Murder Libel and the Jews, by C.
>Roth (Woburn Press, 1935)

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Haaretz Daily
Last update – 13:57 20/03/2008

In Russia’s third largest city, the blood libel is resurfacing

By Anshel Pfeffer, Haaretz Correspondent

The blood libel is alive and well in certain circles in Russia. Dozens of
posters have appeared of late in Russia’s third largest city, warning
residents to keep a close eye on their children as Passover approaches, lest
they fall victim to Jews seeking to make matzah out of their blood.

The posters, adhered to the walls of houses in the Siberian city of
Novosibirsk, warn: “These vermin are still performing rituals, stealing
small children and draining their blood to make their sacred bread.”

They also link a recent spate of child disappearances and murders to Jewish
ritual sacrifices.

The blood libel claims that Jews use the blood of gentiles – particularly
gentile children – to make ritual unleavened bread for Passover. It has been
around for centuries, prevalent primarily in Europe where it was used to
stir up violence and harsh reprisals against the Jewish community.

Amos Herman, Chairman of the Jewish Agency’s branch responsible for fighting
anti-Semitism stated that “We are certain that the government of Russia will
find the perpetrators of this crime and solve this problem once and for
all.”

The Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia recently expressed concern
about the rise in attacks targeting Jews, calling it part of “a recent surge
in anti-Semitic manifestations” in Russia.

In 2007, 67 people were killed and more than 550 injured in ethnically
motivated attacks, according the SOVA rights center, which monitors hate
crimes.

According to varying estimates, between 300,000 and 1.5 million Jews live in
the nation of 142 million. After an exodus in the years before and after
1991 Soviet collapse, the Jewish community is experiencing a moderate
revival, with new synagogues, schools and cultural centers being built
across the country.

During the Soviet era, thousands of Jews were imprisoned or executed as part
of nationwide purges, and many more were forced to conceal their Jewish
identity.

Resurgence of the blood libel

Last year, Professor Ariel Toaff of Bar-Ilan University ignited a storm of
controversy when he published a book in Italy alleging that there is a
factual basis for some of the medieval blood libels against the Jews.

Toaff stood by his findings published in the book “Pasque di Sangue”, but
said he was sorry his arguments had been twisted and later released a
revised edition of the book that clarified that Jews were not involved in
ritualized murder in medieval Europe.

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/966611.html

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Haaretz Daily
Last update – 13:57 20/03/2008

In Russia’s third largest city, the blood libel is resurfacing

By Anshel Pfeffer, Haaretz Correspondent

The blood libel is alive and well in certain circles in Russia. Dozens of
posters have appeared of late in Russia’s third largest city, warning
residents to keep a close eye on their children as Passover approaches, lest
they fall victim to Jews seeking to make matzah out of their blood.

The posters, adhered to the walls of houses in the Siberian city of
Novosibirsk, warn: “These vermin are still performing rituals, stealing
small children and draining their blood to make their sacred bread.”

They also link a recent spate of child disappearances and murders to Jewish
ritual sacrifices.

The blood libel claims that Jews use the blood of gentiles – particularly
gentile children – to make ritual unleavened bread for Passover. It has been
around for centuries, prevalent primarily in Europe where it was used to
stir up violence and harsh reprisals against the Jewish community.

Amos Herman, Chairman of the Jewish Agency’s branch responsible for fighting
anti-Semitism stated that “We are certain that the government of Russia will
find the perpetrators of this crime and solve this problem once and for
all.”

The Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia recently expressed concern
about the rise in attacks targeting Jews, calling it part of “a recent surge
in anti-Semitic manifestations” in Russia.

In 2007, 67 people were killed and more than 550 injured in ethnically
motivated attacks, according the SOVA rights center, which monitors hate
crimes.

According to varying estimates, between 300,000 and 1.5 million Jews live in
the nation of 142 million. After an exodus in the years before and after
1991 Soviet collapse, the Jewish community is experiencing a moderate
revival, with new synagogues, schools and cultural centers being built
across the country.

During the Soviet era, thousands of Jews were imprisoned or executed as part
of nationwide purges, and many more were forced to conceal their Jewish
identity.

Resurgence of the blood libel

Last year, Professor Ariel Toaff of Bar-Ilan University ignited a storm of
controversy when he published a book in Italy alleging that there is a
factual basis for some of the medieval blood libels against the Jews.

Toaff stood by his findings published in the book “Pasque di Sangue”, but
said he was sorry his arguments had been twisted and later released a
revised edition of the book that clarified that Jews were not involved in
ritualized murder in medieval Europe.

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/966611.html

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

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[email protected], or [email protected]
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From [email protected] Tue May 6 10:40:31 EDT 2008
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It seems that the Moscow fags want another beating lesson again, this year.

>From: kjmcva
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.talk.royalty
>Subject: Re: Jewish Poofters bashed in Moscow
>Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 10:01:28 -0700

>On 1 Jun., 13:05, Charlie Pie wrote:
>> On May 28, 7:40 pm, “Binjamin Cram’er” wrote:

>> > Just watched a news report on a bunch of poofters (huge number of whom are yids)
>> > trying to get a “gay pride” (like there’s any such thing) parade happening in Moscow.

>> > The locals were less than enthused with these nonces poncing around, trying to get
>> >the Russians to lower their moral standards.

>> > Quite a few of the poofs copped a good ole fashioned smack in the chops from people
>> > in the crowd. The singer from “Right Said Fred” was one who copped a beauty.

>> > I dislike violence of any type, however it is good to see that decency is still something
>> > of value in Russia.

>> I though you were the lad from Right Said Fred ?
>> C.P.

>What a horrible man you are! Claiming violence and the use of
>democratic right to be decency!!! You should be ashame dof
>yourself!!! Intolerant people were and are the curse of humanity!
>Absolutely digusting! And on top anti-jewish! Were is the difference
>between you and Hitler … the same kind of thinking!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

Reply-To: Frank Arthur , or to
[email protected], or [email protected]
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.

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ZYDS=CHRISTKILLERS=BOLSHEVIKS=PARASITES!! Prawda! Wahrheit!
Vergiss niemals die verfluechte Kristmordern/ZYDS!

Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
and car theft in California and Oregon, the
well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
also a convicted car thief and all round molester,
and still unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of
the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as an AIDS-spreader,
wants all to know about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
Here is the latest…….

Came across the article in deja News, so thought
it should be reconsidered by thinking readers.

On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>Reply-To: [email protected]

>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation

>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism

>One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the
>so-called “Russian Revolution” of 1917 is that
>Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews,
>and those sympathetic to them, continue to condemn
>anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these facts,
>it remains undeniable that communism was both a
>Jewish created and led revolutionary movement.

>First, it is a well known fact that the father
>of communism, Karl Marx, was a Jew and descended
>from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.

>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant
>importance, since Jewishness is not defined exclusively
>by adherance to Judaism. A great bulk of Jews today
>would probably identify themselves as atheists,
>but also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.

>While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in
>communism, will concede that Marx was indeed Jewish,
>let’s see the them deny the communist-Jewish connection
>as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that passed
>between American representatives in Russia and
>Washington D.C. during the time of the Bolshevik
>take-over of Russia.

>The following quotes are taken directly from documents
>available from the U.S.Archives:

>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918
>by U.S. consul general in Moscow, Summers:
>”Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”

>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from
>Vladivostok on July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell:
>”Fifty percent of Soviet government
>in each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”

>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary
>Forces, Siberia on March 1, 1919, comes this telegram
>from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.Montgomey Shuyler:
>”It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has
>been since it’s beginning guided and controlled by
>Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”

>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from
>Vladivostok, reports on the make-up of the presiding
>Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384`commissars’
>including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen,
>22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS.
>Of the latter number, 264 had come to Russia from
>the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>Government.”

>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov),
>most of the leading Communists who took control of
>Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet
>general, who had access to the KGB archives, that
>Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!)

>Leon Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and,
>for a time, was chief of Soviet foreign affairs.

>Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the Bolshevik party’s
>executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government.

>Grigori Zinoviev(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist
>International (Comintern), the central agency for
>spreading revolution in foreign countries.

>Other prominent Jews included press commissar
>Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign affairs commissar
>Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld)
>and Moisei Uritsky.

>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia,
>warned in a January 1918 dispatch to Washington:
>”The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews
>and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles,
>care little for Russia or any other country but are
>internationalists and they are trying to start a
>worldwide social revolution.”

>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke,
>confirmed this: “Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the
>bud immediately, it is bound to spread in one form
>or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality,
>and whose one object is to destroy for their own ends
>the existing order of things.”

>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes
>out-of-context, here’s three paragraphs from
>Dr. George A. Simons, a former superintendent of the
>Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on
>the Judiciary, United States Senate, 65th Congress:

>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed
>in the trail of Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having
>come over from the lower east side of New York. Some
>of them when they learned that I was the American
>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very
>much pleased that there was somebody who could speak
>English, and their broken English showed that they had
>not qualified as being Americans. A number of these men
>called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish
>element in this thing right from the beginning, and it
>soon became evident that more than half the agitators
>in the socalled Bolshevik movement were Jews…I have
>a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that
>one of its bases is found in the east side of New York…
>The latest startling information, given me by someone
>with good authority, startling information, is this,
>that in December, 1918, in the northern community of
>Petrograd that is what they call the section of the
>Soviet regime under the Presidency of the man known
>as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff) out of 388 members, only 16
>happened to be real Russians, with the exception of
>one man, a Negro from America who calls himself
>Professor Gordon.

>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly
>after the great revolution of the winter of 1917,
>there were scores of Jews standing on the benches
>and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed,
>and I often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are
>we coming to anyway. This all looks so Yiddish.’
>Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>there was, as you know, a restriction against having
>Jews in Petrograd, but after the revolution they
>swarmed in there and most of the agitators were Jews.

>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came
>into power all over Petrograd, we at once had a
>predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big posters
>and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident
>that now that was to be one of the great languages
>of Russia; and the real Russians did not take kindly to it.”

>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding
>sources are “anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable,
>but they’d be wrong. Here’s a few Jewish sources that
>essentially substantiate the previous ones:

>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of
>Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish
>planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the
>world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish
>dissatisfaction and by Jewish planning, shall also,
>through the same Jewish mental and physical forces,
>become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)

>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in
>the fact that so many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals
>of Bolshevism are consonant with many of the highest
>ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London
>April, 4, 1919)

>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American
>Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).

>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership
>of the Soviet communist party was Jewish, though Jews
>comprised only 1.8 percent of the total population.”
>(Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)

>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks
>was to make so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime.
>This is confirmed by Stalin (Jozef Djugashvili –
>believed to be part zhid) himself:

>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the
>misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of
>cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of
>racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are
>liable to the death penalty.”
>(Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).

>While Christian churches across Russia were being
>destroyed and clergymen murdered by Communist gangs,
>synagogues and rabbis were left virtually untouched.

ZHIDS = CHEKA/NKVD MURDERERS

>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars
>(many of them Jews) conducted a horrendous reign of
>terror against the non-Jewish Russian population.

>In one case alone, they deliberately starved to
>death 20 million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s
>in one of the most vile campaigns in history:
>In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports
>W. Bruce Lincoln, an American professor of Russian history. . . ”

>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million
>persons were murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in
>Russia, many of them directly at the hands of Jews, and even
>more at the order of Jewish Communist bosses.

>Roger Hughes
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> http://www.natall.com
> http://www.natvan.com
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

It seems that the foul zhids only want to be parasites in society,
such as lawyers(pronounced liars), and corrupt politicians.

For more than 2000 years, people worldwide have suffered from
these parasites, in every society where they have resided.

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant

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Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
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(405) 524-0576

together with
Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
Henry
CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132

We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787

And also: George Firestone: “George” ,
and [email protected]

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

Reply-To: Frank Arthur ,
or to Steve Horn ,
[email protected], or [email protected]
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Subject: ZHID ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI = ZYDOWSKY KOLABORANCI!!!
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Those who have failed to learn from the past 2000 years of history, are
doomed to repeat history.
Always the cursed Christkillers/ZYDS cause problems!

With now an extra 51 well documented proven cases of ZYD COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS, besides notorious KASTNER case, one MUST question the
HOLOHOAX figures!!

Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a nazi GESTAPO
KOLLABORATEUR!!

>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:11:30 -0700, Ken Levi wrote:
>
>>For the past 2000 years, the world has suffered because of the cursed
>>Christkiller ZHIDS.
>
>>Not just the Kollaboraci of the ZHIDS with the nazis.
>
>
>>On 27 Sep 2004 16:03:09 -0000, PhilMathews >>wrote:
>
>>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>
>>>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG–
>>>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>>>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>>>”I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>>>proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>>>have yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.”
>>>I’ve seen photos of naked children, … and fail to see the
>>>harm, or any great moral danger to our society).”?
>>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>> Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>>> alone with your children?
>
>
>>>From: [email protected] (JohannSebastianBott)
>>>Subject: Re:ZHID ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI = ZYDOWSKY KOLABORANCI!!!
>>>Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.wroclaw
>>>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>
>>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>> wrote:
>
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish,
>> > Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate Professor of Sociology
>> > and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of
>> > Germans during occupation of Poland. The only
>> > reason for this question at this time seems to be
>> > his need to stir interethnic hatered. Provocatively,
>> > Dr. Ilicki asks:
>> > 1) who were the members of the
>> > police, volunteers or draftees?,
>> > 2) what was their social status?
>> > 3) what happened to them after the war?
>> > Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not
>> > know the answers.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested
>> > in Pinsk the hometown of his parents and allegedly
>> > the site of the burial of his grandparents and over
>> > 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk). He admitte
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with
>> > Yad Vashem. However, young (about 40 years old)
>> > Julian pretends disintrest, because he is afraid that
>> > exhumations might start at the alleged burial site
>> > and will find no skeletons as same happened last
>> > year at nearby Mariompole, presently in Lithuania.
>
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police
>> > during German occupation was dramatically reduced
>> > in numbers and pre-war policemen were forced to
>> > serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,and when armed never
>> > given more than five bullets for their long rifles.
>> > Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write
>> > a report for what target each bullet was used
>> > and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>
>>>>>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski’s story too.
>
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in
>> > the Third Reich, in which service was completely
>> > voluntary. It was called Ordnungdienst. Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David. The
>> > social background of these Jewish collaborators
>> > according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
>> > with post-graduate degrees, 60% with college degree,
>> > 20% with elementary education. These are data
>> > from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the
>> > requirement was that EACH Jewish policeman
>> > has at least matura (two years of college)
>> > see page 489 of his book. In practice, the
>> > Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German
>> > occupation immediately were fired from
>> > their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because
>> > the schools were closed.
>
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep
>> your life a little longer or die now!
>
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted.
>> Under Stalin they ran to enlist hoping to avoid being
>> killed in the next “relocation”!
>
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground,
>> > unemployed Jewish intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>
>> > Some of it was really gruesome as you remember
>> > from our previous description of the Feb. 1942
>> > execution on Rybna Street market place in Lodz.
>> > German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown
>> > endlessly in Wiesenthal Museum in LA. Thousands
>> > of Jews standing and watching behind three
>> > uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered
>> > pistols facing Jewish crowd and about to be hanged
>> > women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> > ————-
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>
>> Herman
>
>
>First,let us kill all the lawyers! – W.Shakespeare
>First, we get rid of all the politicians! – Mao Tse Dung
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!! Me
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>
>”At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act.”
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>
>”All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>”The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>
>”To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore.”
>John Bryant
>
>TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
>G. K. Chesterton.
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>”I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked”?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>IHR – www.ihr.org
>OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
> Subscribe: [email protected]
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.
>
>Reply-To: “George” ,
>or to [email protected], or [email protected]
>Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.
>

From [email protected] Tue May 6 10:40:35 EDT 2008
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From: Frank Arthur
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Subject: ZYDOWSKI RYTUALNE MORDUJE W RUSSIA – Wahrheit
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Vergiss niemals die verfluechte Kristmordern ZYDS!!

ZYDOWSKI RYTUALNE MORDUJE W RUSSIA – Pravda/Wahrheit

Dalej Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, w alt.
polityce.nacjonalizm.biel “Whip”
< [email protected] > napisa³:

“¿YDOWSKI RYTUA³ MORDUJE” W RUSSIA
PIÊÆ DZIECI ZNALAZ³O CA³KOWICIE W DOLE; KREW SP³YNʳA OD CIA³!
TRUPY zosta³y USTAWIONE w p³omieniach, BY SCHOWAÆ KREW SP³YWAJ¹C¹

Dalej April 16, 2005, tylko tygodnia przed pocz¹tkiem Jewish Passover
dalej April 23, piêæ dzieci, Muslim i Christian, “znikniêtego” w
Rosyjskie miasto Siberian Krasnoyarsk. ich spalone cia³a zosta³y
znalezione w kanalizacyjny dó³.

Popularny Russian codzienny, Komsomolskaya Pravda, pisze dzisiaj ¿e
du¿o Rosjanie w mieœcie s¹ przekonani, ¿e dzieci rytualnie zosta³y
zamordowane przez miejscowych Jews, którzy póŸniej sp³onêli ich cia³a ukryæ
zbrodniê i zapobiec eksperci znaleŸæ w cia³ach brak krwi, która jest
u¿yta przez Hasidic ¯ydzi dla celów rytua³u.

Ma³o ludzi w mieœcie wierzy, ¿e Jewish mordercy kiedykolwiek
przychodz¹ do próby i, ¿e morderstwa w³aœciwie by³yby rozjaœnione
przez policyjnego investigaters w dzisiejszy nowy demokratyczny
Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, prawnik reprezentuj¹cy zainteresowania rodziców z
zamordowane dzieci powiedzia³y papierowi, ¿e 5 niezale¿nych ekspertów
potwierdzi³o brak hemoglobine (czerwony substancja w ludzkiej krwi) w
wszystkich spalonych cia³ach.

” Jestem pewny, ¿e to by³o rytualne morderstwo z wykrwawieniem”, on
powiedzia³.

Evgeny Kazantsev, Head Untraditional Religious Monitoring Groups
Centrum, uzgadnia, ¿e to by³o rytualne morderstwo.

Moscow niezale¿ny badacz i dziennikarz, Mikhail Nazarov, naciski
¿e jest du¿a Jewish spo³ecznoœæ w Krasnoyarsk i ¿e
w³adze robi¹ w ich moc czego, by ukryæ, ¿e to rytualne morderstwo
zaanga¿owane przez ¯ydzi. Œwiadek doniós³ widzenie cia³ dzieci
rzuconych nietkniêtych dó³ jako zakaza³ przez Jewish rytua³ i wtedy ktoœ
spalony wtedy do ukrywaj¹ rany rytua³u w okreœlonych miejscach cia³
zrobionych dla wykrwawienie, nazarov Mr powiedzia³.

Badacz przypomnia³ dobrze znanego przypadku rytualnego morderstwa
Letnie 10 Christian dziecko, Andyusha Yushchinsky w Kiev w 1913.
miejscowy ¯ydowski aktywista spo³ecznoœci, Beilis, zosta³ zatrzymany i zosta³
oskar¿ony morderstwa i póŸniej wypuœci³ przez s¹d z powodu
niewystarczaj¹cego dowodu, z mniejszym nadwy¿ka wagi miêdzy s¹dem.

“Morderstwo Andryusha Yushchinsky te¿ mia³o miejsce ma³o dnia przed
¯ydowski Passover, jego cia³o te¿ zosta³o skrwawione i zosta³o
rzucone pogrzeb”, Mr którego Nazarov powiedzia³.

“I Beilis nale¿a³ do tej samej Lubavichi Hasidic ga³êzi Judaism jako
obecny Chief Rabbi Russia Berl Lazar … kopie American gangstes
æwiczy siê (on zosta³ urodzony w Stanach Zjednoczonych) i czyny z
poparciem Jewish oligarchów, Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner i Jewish
Governor Territory Krasnoyarsk Khloponin”, Pan, z którym Nazarov do³¹czy³ jego
wywiad papier Moscow.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/

Dla prawdziwej PRAWDY o ZHIDS, odwiedŸ œwiatow¹ najlepszy ocenion¹
stronê internetow¹ dla JEW – WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Teraz z wiêcej dowodem wychodz¹cym udowadniaj¹cym KOLABORACJI ZHID Z
NAZIŒCI – innych 51 przypadków oprócz s³awnego przypadku Kastner – nic
dziwne ludzie dooko³a œwiata naprawdê nie lubi¹ Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Albo, inne przydatne strony internetowe zawieraj¹:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J. Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
JAZEERA AL – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
DRUT HOFFMAN – Dedicated do Freedom Press,
Dochodzeniowy Reporting i Revisionist History
Poprzyj: [email protected]

Albo, odwiedŸ stronê internetow¹ dla NARODOWEGO PRZYMIERZA :

Home


Oni maj¹ du¿o informacji, jak równie¿ ksi¹¿ki i zapisy.

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From [email protected] Tue May 6 10:40:35 EDT 2008
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From: “Venceremos”
Subject: ONCE AGAIN ZYD PLOTS A RUSSIAN REVOLUTION-Like 1917?

RUSSIA BEWARE, BORIS AND MOISHE ARE GOING FOR THE THROAT,again!

‘I am plotting a new Russian revolution’

London exile ZYD Berezovsky says force necessary to bring down President
Putin

Ian Cobain and Matthew Taylor and Luke Harding in Moscow
Friday April 13, 2007
The Guardian

The Russian tycoon Boris Berezovsky has told the Guardian he is
plotting the violent overthrow of President Putin from his base in
Britain after forging close contacts with members of Russia’s ruling
elite.

In comments which appear calculated to enrage the Kremlin, and which
will further inflame relations between London and Moscow, the
multimillionaire claimed he was already bankrolling people close to
the president who are conspiring to mount a palace coup.

“We need to use force to change this regime,” he said. “It isn’t
possible to change this regime through democratic means. There can be
no change without force, pressure.” Asked if he was effectively
fomenting a revolution, he said: “You are absolutely correct.”

Although Mr Berezovsky, with an estimated fortune of £850m, may have
the means to finance such a plot, and although he enjoyed enormous
political influence in Russia before being forced into exile, he said
he could not provide details to back up his claims because the
information was too sensitive.

Last night the Kremlin denounced Mr Berezovsky’s comments as a
criminal offence which it believed should undermine his refugee status
in the UK.

Dmitry Peskov, the Kremlin’s chief spokesman, said: “In accordance
with our legislation [his remarks are] being treated as a crime. It
will cause some questions from the British authorities to Mr
Berezovsky. We want to believe that official London will never grant
asylum to someone who wants to use force to change the regime in
Russia.”

It will not be the first time the British government has faced
accusations from the Kremlin that it is providing a safe haven for Mr
Berezovsky. When he told a Moscow radio station last year that he
wanted to see Mr Putin overthrown by force, Jack Straw, then foreign
secretary, told the Commons that “advocating the violent overthrow of
a sovereign state is unacceptable” and warned the tycoon he could be
stripped of his refugee status.

Russian authorities subsequently sent an extradition request to
London. That failed, however, when a district judge ruled Mr
Berezovsky could not be extradited as long as he has asylum status.

In an interview with the Guardian, however, Mr Berezovsky goes much
further than before, claiming to be in close contact with members of
Russia’s political elite who, he says, share his view that Mr Putin is
damaging Russia by rolling back democratic reforms, smothering
opposition, centralising power and flouting the country’s
constitution.

“There is no chance of regime change through democratic elections,” he
says. “If one part of the political elite disagrees with another part
of the political elite – that is the only way in Russia to change the
regime. I try to move that.”

While declining to describe these contacts – and alleging that they
would be murdered if they were identified – he maintained that he was
offering his “experience and ideology” to members of the country’s
political elite, as well as “my understanding of how it could be
done”. He added: “There are also practical steps which I am doing now,
and mostly it is financial.”

Mr Berezovsky said he was unconcerned by any threat to strip him of
his refugee status. “Straw wasn’t in a position to take that decision.
A judge in court said it wasn’t in the jurisdiction of Straw.”

He added that there was even less chance of such a decision being
taken following the polonium-210 poisoning last November of his former
employee, Alexander Litvinenko. “Today the reality is different
because of the Litvinenko case.”

Mr Berezovsky, 61, a former mathematician, turned to business during
the Yeltsin years and made his fortune by capturing state assets at
knockdown prices during Russia’s rush towards privatisation.

Although he played a key role in ensuring Mr Putin’s victory in the
2000 presidential elections, the two men fell out as the newly elected
leader successfully wrested control of Russia back from the so-called
oligarchy, the small group of tycoons who had come to dominate the
country’s economy.

A few months after the election Mr Berezovsky fled Russia, and applied
successfully for asylum in the UK after Mr Litvinenko, an officer with
the KGB’s successor, the FSB, came forward to say he had been ordered
to murder the tycoon.

Mr Berezovsky changed his name to Platon Elenin, Platon being the name
of a character in a Russian film based loosely upon his life. He was
subsequently given a British passport in this name.

As well as claiming to be financing and encouraging coup plotters in
Moscow, Mr Berezovsky said he had dedicated much of the last six years
to “trying to destroy the positive image of Putin” that many in the
west held, portraying him whenever possible as a dangerously anti-
democratic figure. He said he had also opposed the Russian president
through Kommersant, the influential Russian newspaper which he
controlled until last year.

Last month Mr Berezovsky was questioned by two detectives from the
Russian prosecutor general’s office who were in London to investigate
the death of Mr Litvinenko. He has denied claims that he refused to
answer many of their questions.

Last night the Kremlin said Russian authorities might want to question
him again in the light of his interview with the Guardian. “I now
believe our prosecutor general’s office has got lots of questions for
Mr Berezovsky,” said Mr Peskov. He added: “His words are very
interesting. This is a very sensitive issue.”

The Foreign Office said it had nothing to add to Mr Straw’s comments
of last year.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 23:54:04 GMT, in can.politics “Moishe Lipschitz” wrote:

http://www.theunjustmedia.com/jew%20organized%20crime.htm

For the real TRUTH about ZYDS, visit the world top-rated website
for ZYDS= JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

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