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The jewish/zionist/israeli clique hate it when faced with the fact that
part
of the media might reflect the truth of issues like Rachel Corrie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDPdDv7cEZo
You want to see what Jewish tax you are paying.
400 Jewish organizations. Cake mix. ADL just a few bucks. 150 billion of
food products. Oh and now worldwide under US patronage , not of course that
Jews are large parasitic lumps on America. IE 2% of the population sucking
of billions for their church and rabbis. Not to mention various other of
their religious and private organizations.
ADL that dear little organization who’s label as the Anti Defamation League
would be as false as the Democratic Republic label of North Koreas.
Now why would a Jewish semi religious organization protect the sucking of
billions of dollars from Americans and all America’s friends and scream
anti
Semitism to protect that hidden illicit income when no other organization ,
religion has used such subterfuge to live of it’s fellow citizens.
And one can only hope that that is either stopped or decreased so that the
rest of the world is not forced to support religions with practices like
that. And with the newly prominent religion of Mohomadeism with it’s
special
religious dietary requirements used to rob the rest of the country.

Now why did he sue? Because he does not want Israel to clean up it’s act?

Nathan wants no criticism of Israeli nazi tactics and nazi policies of
Israeli government?
But the man who brought the complaint to the press council, Nathan Potaznik
of Melbourne, says he is not satisfied. Potaznik, 54, says the cartoon
breached six of the council’s nine principles, but the council affirmed the
violation of only one principle.
http://www.jewishtimes.com/scripts/edition.pl?now=11/28/2003&SubSectionID=
32
&ID=3511
http://www.stormfront.org/archive/t-114051

ADL of B’nai B’ri Settles Defamation Case

Friday March 12, 2004 6:46 PM
DENVER (AP) – The Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith has settled a
bitter 1994 defamation case by paying $12.1 million to a couple it accused
of anti-Semitism.
William and Dorothy Quigley won a jury verdict in 2000, but the case was
appealed the U.S. Supreme Court. The high court declined to hear the case.
The dispute began in 1994, when Mitchell and Candace Aronson moved into a
house near the Quigleys in Evergreen, just west of Denver. The families
clashed and the Aronsons claimed it was because they were Jewish.
The Aronsons sought help from the ADL after the Aronsons’ police scanner
picked up the Quigleys’ conversation on a cordless telephone.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-3853718,00.html

So do we have a Christian organization to combat the well funded by
American
Christians themselves big brother oppression of the ADL which can
persecute any Christian or non Christian at will wth the knowledge that
they
have neither the funds or support to fight back.

AND OTHER CHARITABLE ORGANISATIONS GIVE AID AND FINANCE ALL RELIGIONS, NOT
JUST THE ONE AS IS THE POLICY OF JEWISH ORGANISATIONS LIKE THE ADL SO
FALSELY NAMED THE ANTI DEFAMATION LEAGUE.

http://www.thenausea.com/elements/thenotforgotten/rachel/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/16/rafah.death/
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/79400p-72974c.html
One guy gets 10 years, the other gets a raise and promotion??

http://electronicintifada.net/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/7/1248

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/01AA7ECA-7018-447B-A10D-
9E4139D4788A.
htm
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American and Australian shot by Israelis
Chris McGreal talks to the relatives of three British and American
victims
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1066817,00.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/16/rafah.death/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1066817,00.html
http://www.rachelcorrie.org/

http://www.thenausea.com/elements/thenotforgotten/rachel/index.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,916299,00.html
http://www.omjp.org/rachelphotos.html

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-
8853425952359751341&q=Palestinian+p
eople
http://mindprod.com/politics/israel.html
http://www.nogw.com/israeliatrocities.html
http://www.palestinefacts.org/index.php
http://www.palestinechronicle.com/story-2003112917164320.htm
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/Israel/IsraelsTortureBan.html
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m25048&l=i&size=1&hd=0
http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/0197/9701007.htm

AND THEY COMPLAINED ABOUT LONDONS LORD MAYOR???
Everyone please go here =

Christian homes being knocked down???
The new homes were built by a group of limited income Palestinian Christian
families who banded together as the Arab Orthodox Housing Project to build
a
new life. They obtained a 99-year lease from their Church, the Greek
Orthodox Church, 22 years ago and then began the agonizing process of
organizing and saving enough money to start construction.

“We were renters for 40 years,” Dalal Awad, a mother of five told me. “We
saved for 22 years and built this home with our neighbors. It cost $42,000.
We built it with our hearts, our own labor. Now the Israelis want to kill
our dream.”
http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/05/1607911.php

(Wanderer, Oct. 12, 1989, p. 7; National Review, March 16, 1992, p. S-5).

Israeli soldiers can beat up a priest on the West Bank, then shoot up his
church during Mass, and only the Catholic press takes note…If
Christians
had done such a thing to a synagogue, anywhere, it would have been
front-page news, everywhere. (Wanderer, Oct. 12, 1989, p. 7; National
Review, March 16, 1992, p. S-5).

Farmers harassed and shot in israel
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3757004.stm
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=53042

Zionist settler deliberately hits and kills Palestinian old man
http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/article_3293.shtml
http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/article_3396.shtml
http://judicial-inc.biz/School_shooting.htm

AND THEY COMPLAINED ABOUT LONDONS LORD MAYOR???
Everyone please go here =

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c378ab?q=&rnum=1

Marlon Brando.

http://www.theunjustmedia.com/ben%20stein%20on%20jewish%20media%20control.
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WARNING To People in Austria; Belgium; France; Germany;
Israel; Spain and Switzerland. You can be fined, imprisoned or both
for
discussing the topics set forth in this article.

The Jews declared war against Germany
On March 24, 1933, the Jewish World Congress, then under the leadership of
Chaim Weizman, declared war on Germany on behalf of the Jews of the world.
http://www.corax.org/revisionism/misc/encampment.html

Like the yanks who rounded up all Japs and Germans?

Immediately after Japan declared war on the United States of America, the
order was issued to round up all Americans of Japanese ancestry and
imprison
them in large camps.
http://www.corax.org/revisionism/misc/encampment.html

CPT Hebron Chronology
February 1995 – September 2003
February-March 1995
Wendy Lehman and Kathleen Kern go on a fact finding tour of the West Bank,
Gaza and Israel, talking to Palestinians, Israelis and internationals who
are working for human rights and for peace. They make several trips down to
Hebron. After they talk to the Public Relations Director of the Hebron
municipality about CPT’s work in Haiti, she tells them that such a team is
exactly what Hebron needs. http://www.cpt.org/hebron/HebChronology.htm

http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/talmud.htm

http://www.iahushua.com/JQ/talmud.html
http://www3.stormfront.org/jewish/talmud.html
I would point out that stormfront is the only critical of the Talmud.
Like the holocaust no non jew cared enough to really study the matter till
we found our freedoms encroached and our lives threatened by the Talmud
driven jews.
http://stormfront.org/jewish/talmud.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/talmud_&_mishna.html
NEWS YOU WON’T FIND ON CNN

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article12642.htm
George Galloway: Israel is a Terrorist State
http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=508

Israeli Terrorism In Pictures
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article14273.ht

http://www.masada2000.org/list-TUVWXYZ.html

THE ZIONIST PROTECTION RACKET.
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3940

He escaped and fled to Israel only to discover that the anti Semitism and
bombings had been engineered by his fellow Zionists to dupe Iraqi Jews into
going to Israel. An ancient community was deprived of its wealth and
reduced
to second-class citizen status in Israel, replacing Palestinian labor. See
my “Zionists Double Crossed Iraqi Jews”

http://www.savethemales.ca/000889.html
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3940
http://www.lastsuperpower.net/docs/nzc6backgroundtocollaboration

In a letter to the conference host, UNESCO Director-General Koichiro
Matsuura, the protesters said the Wiesenthal center, “under the deceitful
cover of the struggle against anti-Semitism, is on the contrary
encouraging intolerance and racism in our societies.”

Jon and David Kimche
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n4p29_Weber.html
The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An
internal June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging
support
for Zionism by the government and the Party as the best way to encourage
emigration of Germany’s Jews to Palestine.

The Jewish Agency delegation headed by Golda Meir (Meirson) ignored a
German
offer to allow Jews to emigrate to other countries for $250 a head, and
the
other Jewish groups made no effort to influence the United States and
the
32 other countries attending the conference to allow immigration of
German
and Austrian Jews.

http://www.jews-for-allah.org/Jews-not-for-Judaism/Jews-who-helped-nazis-
hit
ler.htm

Reviewed by Sara Powell
It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
coverage in the American media.

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http://www.counterpunch.org/brenner05252005.html
http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2002/12/1553622.php
http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/index.htm

Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has compiled a wide variety of letters,
statements, articles, and judgements?some of which appeared in his
earlier book?by a broad array of activists and authors, that
documents
Zionist
cooperration with the Nazis.

On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
presents the case?made in many Zionists? own words?that the Nazi
agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
new Jewish nation.

In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.

Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
others written in response.

These latter do indicate levels of collaboration between Zionists and
fascists, both the Nazis in Germany, and those in Mussolini’s Italy.
Brenner’s brief explanatory notes at the beginning of each document
are helpful, as are the glossary and index.

51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
eschewed the boycott against Hitler?s Germany, for instance, is that
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-
060706mideast,1,7895295.story?c
oll=chi-news-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true
they had a financial deal?Ha’avara?with Germany allowing Jews to
exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of ‘nationality’ versus
citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
same concept.

51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term Holocaust
guilt, frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
threatened European brethren.

From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
18, 1943:

And when some asked me: Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora? I said:
?No! And again I say no….And, because of these things, people
called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the fact
that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions.(p. 211)

However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
as an important dividing line?and, moreover, were determined to keep
it that way.

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is
that involving Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
Those who have, are generally under the impression that
there is some “controversy” about negotiations he undertook
for “the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
equipment,” but that he was “fully rehabilitated” by the
Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that –
I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
deeds of the war.

While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is still on my
arm

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…
(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the “Eichmann Confessions”
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

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> On 29 Aug 2006 11:46:41 -0700, in can.politics “Russ”
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>
> JEWISH CRIME
>
> “Of all the areas of Jewish enterprise,” notes Gerald Krafetz, “none
> has been so overlooked as the field of crime. And it isn’t because of
> a lack of Jewish criminality. For an introspective people, this
> oversight is significant. It is as if Jewish crime did not exist, an
> unsavory skeleton is best left in the family closet … The
> sociopathology of Jews is not an acceptable notion since it runs
> counter to both religious precepts and preconceived ideas that Jews
> have of themselves.” [KREFETZ, p. 112] “Jews were … involved in many
> of the most visible and spectacular frauds of the post-Civil War
> period,” notes Benjamin Ginsberg, “as well as in economic dislocations
> and financial manipulations that characterize the era.” [GINSBERG, p.
> 75] In one much publicized scandal for instance, the Jewish governor
> of South Carolina, Franklin Moses, oversaw the issue and selling of $6
> million in fraudulent state securities, as well as funneling hundreds
> of thousands of dollars in public funds into his own pocket.
> [GINSBERG, p. 75]
>
> In a broader financial sphere, very visibly at the top of the socio-
> economic pyramid, Jewish businessman Joseph Seligman’s nefarious
> activities in the late 1800s helped to create the infamous “Black
> Friday” stock market crash. Benjamin Ginsberg notes that the crash
>
> “ruined thousands of investors, implicated President Grant, and led to
> a Congressional investigation of [Jay] Gould and Seligman …
> Similarly, in the early 1890s, Jacob Schiff collaborated with E. H.
> Harriman in the latter’s attempts to wrest control of the Northern
> Pacific Railroad from J. P. Morgan and James Hill … When the price
> of the Northern Pacific Stock collapsed, the entire market crashed in
> the notorious ‘Black Thursday’ panic that led to a nationwide economic
> depression.” [GINZBURG, p. 73]
>
> In 1885 the French-based project to build the Panama Canal collapsed,
> resulting in financial scandal that led, in part, to Seligman again.
>
> “Both the United States Congress and the French Parliament had
> inquiries,” says Ginsberg, “In both countries major Jewish financiers
> were implicated: Baron Jacques de Reinach in Paris and Joseph Seligman
> in the United States. Many shareholders lost everything, but Seligman
> lost nothing. In contemporary parlance, the Seligmans engaged in
> influence peddling, insider trading, and corporate asset stripping and
> looting — all at the expense of credulous investors.” [GINZBURG, p.
> 74] The French end of the Panama Canal scandals, notes Albert
> Lindemann, “involved large amounts of French capital and threatened
> national prestige — and Jewish agents were deeply involved. The
> intermediaries between the Panama company and parliament were almost
> exclusively Jews with German names and backgrounds, some of whom tried
> to blackmail one another.” [LINDEMANN, p. 87]
>
>
> continued at
> http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/09crime.htm

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Dresden = A Real Holocaust = War Ein Wirkliche HOLOCAUST!!

The real HOLOCAUST on Dresden was perpetrated on the innocent
civilians of Dresden, which had no military importance, by bomber
Harris/Horowitz !!

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:58:40 -0500, in alt.politics.nationalism.white,
[email protected] (Whitey Loughmiller) wrote:

Dresden
Kevin Alfred Strom

The night of February 13th, and February 14th, Valentine’s Day, mark
an ominous anniversary in the history of Western Civilization. For
beginning on the night of February 13th, 1945, occurred the
destruction of Dresden.

On the eve of Valentine’s Day, 1945, World War II in Europe was nearly
over. For all practical purposes Germany was already defeated. Italy,
and Germany’s other European allies, had fallen by the wayside. The
Red Army was rushing to occupy vast areas of what had been Germany in
the East, while the allies of the Soviets, the British and Americans,
were bombing what was left of Germany’s defenses and food and
transportation infrastructure into nonexistence.

And what was Dresden? Most of you have probably heard of Dresden
China, and that delicately executed and meticulously detailed
porcelain is really a perfect symbol for that city.

For centuries Dresden had been a center of art and culture, and
refined leisure and recreation. She was a city of art museums and
theatres, circuses and sports stadia, a town of ancient half-timbered
buildings looking for all the world like those of medieval England,
with venerable churches and centuries-old cathedrals gracing her
skyline. She was a city of artists and craftsmen, of actors and
dancers, of tourists and the merchants and hotels that served them.
Above all, what Dresden was, was defined during the war by what she
was not. She had no significant military or industrial installations.
Because of this, Dresden had become, above all other things that she
was, a city of children, of women, of refugees, and of the injured and
maimed who were recovering from their wounds in her many hospitals.

These women and children, these wounded soldiers, these infirm and
elderly people, these refugees fleeing from the brutal onslaught of
the Communist armies to the East, had come to Dresden because it was
commonly believed at the time that Dresden would not be attacked. Its
lack of strategic or military or industrial significance, and the
well-known presence of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilian
refugees and even Allied prisoners of war, seemed to guarantee safety
to the city. Surely, it was thought, not even a the most powerful and
determined enemy would be so depraved and sadistic, and so wasteful of
that enemy’s own resources, to attack such a city. But the people of
Dresden, who were happily attending the cinema or eating dinner at
home or watching the show-horses in the circus on that fateful night
were wrong, wrong, wrong. And their leaders were also wrong, for the
city was virtually open and undefended and only minimal civil defense
preparations had been made.

Dresden’s population had almost doubled in the months before the
attack, mainly as a result of the influx of refugees from the Eastern
Front, most of them women and young children.

According to British historian David Irving, the briefings given to
the British bomber squadrons before the attack on Dresden were
curiously different. In one, the soldiers were told that their target
was the railway center of Dresden. In another, they were told that the
target was a poison-gas factory. In yet another, they were told that
the target was a marshalling-grounds for troops in the city. Another
was told that the target was a major arsenal. These were all lies.
The only marshalling-grounds for what few troops were in the area were
located well outside the city. The arsenal had burned down in 1916.
There were factories for toothpaste and baby-powder in Dresden, but
none for poison gas. There were, in fact, no fewer than eighteen
railway stations in Dresden, but only one was hit by the bombing, and
that was barely touched and in fact was operating again just three
days later.

According to copious documentation unearthed by David Irving from the
archives of the American and British governments, the point of the
attack was in fact to inflict the maximum loss of life on the civilian
population and particularly to kill as many refugees as possible who
were fleeing from the Red Army. In achieving these goals it was highly
successful. It was thus planned and executed by those at the very
highest levels of the British and American governments, who to attain
their purposes even lied to their own soldiers and citizens, who to
this day have never been told the full story by their leaders.
How was this devastating effect accomplished?
At 10:10 PM on February 13th, the first wave of the attack, consisting
of the British Number 5 Bomber Group, began. The attacking force
consisted of about 2,000 bombers with additional support craft, which
dropped over 3,000 high explosive and 650,000 incendiary bombs (more
commonly known as firebombs) on the center of the city. Incendiary
bombs are not known for their efficiency per pound in destroying heavy
equipment such as military hardware or railroad tracks, but are
extremely effective in producing maximum loss of human life. The loads
carried by the bombers were over 75 per cent incendiaries. In fact,
the goal of the first wave of the attack was, according to British air
commander Sir Arthur Bomber Harris, to set the city well on fire. That
he did.

The lack of any effective anti-aircraft defenses allowed the bombers
to drop to very low altitudes and thus a relatively high degree of
precision and visual identification of targets was achieved. Despite
the fact that they could clearly see that the marked target area
contained hospitals and sports stadia and residential areas of center
city Dresden, the bombers nevertheless obeyed orders and rained down a
fiery death upon the unlucky inhabitants of that city on a scale which
had never before been seen on planet Earth.

Hundreds of thousands of innocents were literally consumed by fire, an
actual holocaust by the true definition of the word: complete
consumption by fire.

Dresden after its holocaust
The incendiaries started thousands of fires and, aided by a stiff wind
and the early-on destruction of the telephone exchanges that might
have summoned firefighters from nearby towns, these fires soon
coalesced into one unimaginably huge firestorm. Now such firestorms
are not natural phenomena, and are seldom created by man, so few
people have any idea of their nature. Basically, what happened was
this: The intense heat caused by the huge column of smoke and flame,
miles high and thousands of acres in area, created a terrific updraft
of air in the center of the column.
This created a very low pressure at the base of the column, and
surrounding fresh air rushed inward at speeds estimated to be thirty
times that of an ordinary tornado. An ordinary tornado wind-force is a
result of temperature differences of perhaps 20 to 30 degrees
centigrade. In this firestorm the temperature differences were on the
order of 600 to 1,000 degrees centigrade. This inward-rushing air
further fed the flames, creating a literal tornado of fire, with winds
in the surrounding area of many hundreds of miles per hour — sweeping
men, women, children, animals, vehicles and uprooted trees pell-mell
into the glowing inferno.

But this was only the first stage of the plan.
Exactly on schedule, three hours after the first attack, a second
massive armada of British bombers arrived, again loaded with high
explosive and massive quantities of incendiary bombs. The residents of
Dresden, their power systems destroyed by the first raid, had no
warning of the second. Again the British bombers attacked the center
city of Dresden, this time dividing their targets — one half of the
bombs were to be dropped into the center of the conflagration, to keep
it going, the other half around the edges of the firestorm. No
pretense whatever was made of selecting military targets. The timing
of the second armada was such as to ensure that a large quantity of
the surviving civilians would have emerged from their shelters by that
time, which was the case, and also in hopes that rescue and
firefighting crews would have arrived from surrounding cities, which
also proved to be true. The firefighters and medics thus incinerated
hadn’t needed the telephone exchange to know that they were needed —
the firestorm was visible from a distance of 200 miles.

It is reported that body parts, pieces of clothing, tree branches,
huge quantities of ashes, and miscellaneous debris from the firestorm
fell for days on the surrounding countryside as far away as eighteen
miles.
After the attack finally subsided, rescue workers found nothing but
liquefied remains of the inhabitants of some shelters, where even the
metal kitchen utensils had melted from the intense heat.

The next day, Ash Wednesday and Valentine’s Day, 1945, medical and
other emergency personnel from all over central Germany had converged
on Dresden. Little did they suspect that yet a third wave of bombers
was on its way, this time American. This attack had been carefully
coordinated with the previous raids. Four hundred fifty Flying
Fortresses and a support contingent of fighters arrived to finish the
job at noon. I quote from David Irving’s The Destruction of Dresden:

“Just a few hours before Dresden had been a fairy-tale city of spires
and cobbled streets …. now total war had put an end to all that.
.The ferocity of the US raid of 14th February had finally brought the
people to their knees… but it was not the bombs which finally
demoralised the people … it was the Mustang fighters, which suddenly
appeared low over the city, firing on everything that moved …. one
section of the Mustangs concentrated on the river banks, where masses
of bombed-out people had gathered. … British prisoners who had been
released from their burning camps were among the first to suffer the
discomfort of machine-gunning attacks …. wherever columns of
tramping people were marching in or out of the city they were pounced
on by the fighters, and machine-gunned or raked with cannon fire.”
[Image: Dresden skyline after Allied saturation bombing.]

Ladies and gentlemen, on this program I can only give you a bare
glimpse of the inhuman horror of the holocaust of Dresden. In Dresden,
no fewer than 135,000 innocent victims died, with some estimates as
high as 300,000. More died in Dresden than died in the well-known
attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

More destruction befell Dresden in one day than was inflicted on the
whole of Britain during the entire war. And yet you haven’t been told.
I urge every one of you to read The Destruction of Dresden by David
Irving. I assure you, after reading Irving’s book, you will never take
seriously the Establishment’s version of what happened in that war
again.

What you ought to take seriously, though, is the fact that the same
clique that controlled the traitorous Roosevelt and Churchill
governments, whose hatred of our race and civilization and whose
alliance with Communism were the real causes of the holocaust of
Dresden, still controls our government and our media today. It is they
who are pushing for a disarmed, racially mixed America. It is they who
promote the teaching of sodomy to our young children. It is they who
are destroying our industrial infrastructure in the name of a global
economy. It is they who created the drug subculture and then also the
police state agencies which pretend to fight it.

The hour is very late for America and indeed for all of Western
civilization. But if patriots will heed our call, then there is no
reason for despair. For the enemies of our nation may have power, but
their power is based on lies. Won’t you help us cut through the chain
of lies that holds our people in mental slavery?
Every year, families should commemorate the anniversary of the
holocaust of Dresden on the eve of 13th February.

Free Speech — David Irving has generously made his Destruction of
Dresden available as a free download, in PDF format, at his Focal
Point
Press website.

—

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tireless minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds
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URLs of
The Ongoing HOLOCAUST – BY the Christkiller ZYDS/Ivrai/Juden!
posted by KenMcVay @ nizkor.org, for all to read

These KHAZIREI + shabbas-goy McVay,
do not like the TRUTH being exposed!
Especially when it exposes the foul ZYDS!

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Christkiller ZHIDS!!

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On Mon, 19 May 2008 00:44:53 -0500,
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wrote:

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Monday, May 5, 2008
Jews Run the Homosexual Movement in America;
Militant Homosexual Activism Led and Funded by People of Jewish
Heritage

News from the West provides the evidence that a disproportionate
number of the
most radical elements in the militant homosexual rights lobby are of
Jewish
origin. . . .

Here is an exhaustive list proving, once and for all, that the radical
homosexual movement in the United States is a Jewish movement. Jews
created it
and run it from top to bottom. They are pushing the perversion and
degeneracy
that is spreading disease, sin and sickness through America like a
wildfire.

-The West

Larry Kramer — co-founder of “Act Up,” a homosexual/AIDS activist
organization; co-founder of the Gay Men’s Health Crisis

Alan Klein — co-founder of group ACT UP, co-founder of group Queer
Nation,
National Communications Director and chief spokesperson for the Gay &
Lesbian
Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD]. Klein also co-founded the
successful
multimedia campaign STOPDRLAURA.COM

Arnie Kantrowitz — co-founder of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against
Defamation [GLAAD].

Jonathan D. Katz — founded and chairs the Harvey Milk Institute, the
largest
queer studies institute in the world. A long time queer political
activist,
was a co-founder of Queer Nation, [the key San Francisco branch].

Harvey Fierstein — film actor [Mrs. Doubtfire]; well-known gay
activist.

Moisés Kaufman — playwright and film director [The Laramie Project].

Israel Fishman — founder of the Gay Liberation Caucus in 1970 [now
known as
the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgendered Round Table of the
American
Library Association], the world’s first gay professional organization.

Bella Abzug and Edward Koch — both Jewish — the first members of the
U.S.
House of Representatives to introduce legislation banning
discrimination based
on sexual orientation [1974].

Winnie Stachelberg — political director, Human Rights Campaign [HRC]

Michael S. Aronowitz, The New York Log Cabin Republicans.

Tony Kushner — gay activist; Tony and 1993 Pulitzer Prize-winning
playwright
[for Angels in America, 1992].

Len Hirsch — president of the GLBT federal government employees
group, GLOBE.

Meg Moritz, Ph.D. — a Director and member of the Executive Committee
of
GLAAD.
Barbara Raab — an NBC-TV producer; a “Jewish lesbian feminist
journalist,
writer.”

Charles Kaiser [?] — author & founding member of National Lesbian and
Gay
Journalists Association [NLGJA].

David Goodstein — owner/publisher of the gay magazine The Advocate
[1975-1985]; co-founder of the National Gay Rights Lobby.

Judy Wieder — Editor-in-chief, The Advocate gay magazine.

Alison Bechdel [?] — cartoonist creator and author of the bi-weekly
comic
strip “Dykes to Watch Out For.”

Kevin Koffler — Editor-in-chief, Genre gay magazine.

Garrett Glaser — National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association
[NLGJA]
national board member.

Ronald Gold — reporter for Variety; a leader in the fight to overturn
the
American Psychiatric Association’s policy that homosexuality is an
illness.

Magnus Hirschfeld [d. 1935], early gay rights activist in Germany;
founded one
of the first gay rights organizations, the Scientific Humanitarian
Committee;
coined the term “transvestism”; fled Nazi Germany.

Fred Hochberg — deputy administrator, U.S. Small Business
Administration;
co-chair of the Human Rights Campaign [HRC].

Michael Berman — member, Human Rights Campaign Board of Directors.
Mitchell
Gold — HRC Board Marty Lieberman — HRC BoardAndy Linsky — HRC
BoardDana
Perlman — HRC BoardAbby Rubenfeld — HRC Board Andrew Tobias — HRC
Board
Lara Schwartz — Senior Counsel, HRC Heather Wellman — HRC Field
Coordinator
Dan Furmansky — HRC Senior Field Organizer, West Sally Green — HRC
Associate
Field Director

Rick Rosendall [?] — President, Gay & Lesbian Activists Alliance of
Washington, DC.

Barney Frank — member of U.S. Congress; helped create
non-discriminatory
employment policies in all U.S. federal agencies

Kerry Lobel — executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task
Force.

Robin Margolis, American coordinator of the Bi Women’s Cultural
Alliance and
author [Bisexuality: A Practical Guide].

Evan Wolfson, Senior Staff Attorney, Lambda Legal Defense and
Education Fund
— and — the executive director of Freedom to Marry.

Jennifer Einhorn — Communications Director, Gay & Lesbian Alliance
Against
Defamation [GLAAD] Nancy Alpert [?] — Treasurer, GLAAD Judy
Gluckstern —
Board of Directors, GLAAD.Stephen M. Jacoby — Board of Directors,
GLAAD.Matt
Riklin — Board, GLAADCarol Rosenfeld — Board, GLAAD.William
Weinberger —
Board, GLAAD Tanya Wexler — Board, GLAAD. David Huebner — GLAAD
Counsel.

Richard Goldstein — Village Voice writer on gay culture and politics

Ron Schlittler — Director of Field & Policy, Parents and Friends of
Lesbians
and Gays [PFLAG].

Craig Ziskin — Deputy Director of Development, PFLAG.

Debra Weill — Senior Field & Policy Coordinator, PFLAG.

Dody Goldstein — Board of Directors, PFLAG.

David Horowitz — Board of Directors, PFLAG.

Shawn Frank — Board of Directors, PFLAG.

Leon Weinstein — Chair, Nominating Committee, PFLAG.

Kate Kendell [?], National Center for Lesbian Rights.

Gayle Rubin — lesbian author/activist.

Hilary Rosen — a founding member of the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund;
former
board co-chair of the Human Rights Campaign.

Roz Richter, American attorney and activist.

Bob Kunst — long-time activist in gay and Jewish causes.

“Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network” [GLSEN]. Board co-chairs:
Marty
Seldman, president

“National Gay & Lesbian Task Force” [NGLTF]. Board co-chairs: …..
Rachel
Rosen in Santa Fe, N.M Dave Fleischer — Director of Training
[political
training], NGLTF. Craig Hoffman — Board of Directors, NGLTF. Beth
Zemsky —
Board, NGLTF. Marsha C. Botzer — Treasurer, NGLTF. Jeff Levi —
first, Levi
was NGTF’s lobbyist, early 1980s [NGTF became NGLTF in 1985]. Later,
he was
NGLTF executive director.

Bill Rubenstein, J.D. ’86, developed the ACLU Lesbian and Gay Rights
Project

Martin Duberman — author/historian; founded the Center for Lesbian
and Gay
Studies at the City University of New York.

Ben Schatz ’81, J.D. ’85, is executive director of the Gay and Lesbian
Medical
Foundation.

Kevin Schaub, American; Executive Director and Dean of the Harvey Milk
Institute in San Francisco, the world’s largest center for queer
studies.

Sarah Schulman [1958- ], American playwright, novelist, and activist
[one of
the founders of the Lesbian Avengers, a direct-action lesbian rights
organization].

Susan Spielman — principal/head of Common Ground, an
education/consulting
firm specializing in workplace sexual orientation education; her
company has
worked with hundreds of U.S. organizations, helping them to implement
domestic
partner benefits plans; co-author of the book Straight Talk About Gays
in the
Workplace.

Gertrude Stein — wrote the first openly lesbian novel, “Q.E.D.,” in
1903, but
it was only published posthumously in 1950.

Rikki Streicher (1925-1994), American activist and businesswoman.

Michael Goff — founded Out magazine in 1992.

Paulette Goodman — founder of local chapter [Washington D.C.] of
PFLAG and
served as President of the National PFLAG organization from 1988-1992.

Jeffrey Newman, American, president and COO of the Gay Financial
Network;
president and CEO of out.com.

Jim Levin — New York gay historian.

Barrett Brick — GLAA [Gay and Lesbian Activists Alliance] Treasurer.

Robin Tyler — American comedian [born Arlene Chernick] who was the
first
openly gay comic in North America; Tyler is also an activist who was
the stage
producer for the first three gay marches on Washington and the
national
protest coordinator for the “Stop Dr. Laura” campaign; she produces
women’s
comedy and music festivals, and operates a lesbian travel-tour
company.

Dr. Bruce Voeller [1935?-1994] [?] American gay rights activist,
molecular
biologist, physiologist, and AIDS researcher (pioneer in the use of
nonoxynol-9 as a spermicide); cofounder and first executive director
of the
National Gay Task Force; creator of the Mariposa Foundation [an AIDS
prevention research organization].

Mark Elderkin [?] — co-founded Gay.com.

Leroy Aarons — American professor, journalist, and founder of the
National
Gay and Lesbian Journalists Association (1990).

Dr. Donald I. Abrams — American physician, HIV expert, medical
marijuana
researcher, and past president of the Gay and Lesbian Medical
Association.

Johnny Abush (1952-2000) — [Canadian]; archivist of the International
Jewish
GBLT Archives.

Roberta Achtenberg [1950- ]; civil rights lawyer and federal official;
appointed as Assistant Secretary for Fair Housing and Equal
Opportunity by
President Bill Clinton in 1993.

Miriam Ben-Shalom [1948- ], American Army Reserves drill sergeant and
gay
activist; in 1986 she won a ten-year legal battle with the Reserves
when a
court ordered her reinstatement; founder of the Gay, Lesbian, and
Bisexual
Veterans Association [GLBVA] in 1990, serving as its first president.

Larry Brinkin, American gay activist who brought the first domestic
partnership lawsuit [against Southern Pacific Railroad, 1982].

Rob Eichberg, American psychologist, co-creator of National Coming Out
Day
[October 11th].

Scott Evertz, American; in April 2001, President Bush appointed him to
serve
as the Director of the White House Office of National AIDS Policy
[ONAP].

Gene Falk [?, Jewish name], American business executive; Senior Vice
President
of the Showtime Digital Media Group; part of the team that launched
and
marketed the U.S. TV series Queer as Folk; Chair of the Board of
Directors of
the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD].

Surina Kahn — American lesbian activist.

Larry Kessler — founding director in 1983 of the AIDS Action
Committee of
Massachusetts, the largest AIDS support organization in New England.

Kathy Levinson — American investor and philanthropist; serves on the
board of
PlanetOut; also on NGLTF Board of Directors.

Judith Light — actress, activist for gay causes.

David Mixner — gay activist, political consultant; co-founder of the
Municipal Elections Committee of Los Angeles [MECLA], a group of
wealthy gays
and lesbians who became influential in local politics; president Bill
Clinton’s Special Liaison to the Gay-Lesbian Community.

Dan Savage — American author of gay-themed books [The Kid: What
Happened
After My Boyfriend and I Decided to Go Get Pregnant; Skipping Towards
Gomorrah: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Pursuit of Happiness in
America] and
gay-themed- sex-advice columnist [Savage Love].

Susan Schuman, American executive vice-president and general manager
of the
Planet Out gay and lesbian online service.

Scott Seomin, American entertainment media coordinator for the Gay &
Lesbian
Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD].

Jason Serinus [Jay Guy Nassberg] — founder and coordinator of the
Lavender
Healing Network; a former gay activist with the New York chapter of
the Gay
Liberation Front.

David Sine [?] — American CEO of C1TV, the first U.S. gay and lesbian
cable
TV network.

Rex Wockner — longtime gay, American journalist who has reported news
for the
gay press since 1985.

Jack Fritscher — became Editor in Chief of Drummer gay magazine
[1977].

Leslie Feinberg [1949- ], American trade unionist, transgender
activist and
author [Transgender Warriors: Making History from Joan of Arc to
RuPaul].

Allan Ginsburg – late Jewish poet and leading member of North American
Man Boy
Love Association

Anonymous said…

Found this on Rense.com. Great info!
May 5, 2008 2:08 PM

Anonymous said…

Let me guess. Is this what they did in 1920s Germany?
May 5, 2008 2:50 PM

Joseph Capp said…

This is absolute nonsense. “Jews” in New York have been at the
forefront
of many protest movements and Homosexual Jews are many times
ostracized from
the strict fundamentalist Jewish families. I am not a Jew or
homosexual. But
the friends I have who happened to be I would rather have around my
children
these friends, then the likes of you.
Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog
May 5, 2008 2:53 PM

curt maynard said…

Joseph Capp, you are one or more of the following three things:

Stupid, Delusional, or Complicit.
May 5, 2008 3:08 PM

Charles Fockaert said…

So much for homosexuals staying in the privacy of bedrooms where
their
perversions were nobody’s business but their own. Now they are in our
face
with their abnormality. And this guy Capp would rather his kids be
around
these types than heterosexuals? What if we all became queer? What then
of
civilization?
May 5, 2008 3:26 PM

Anonymous said…

Mr. Capp is the ideal man for the 21st century–a vocal advocate
for the
complete disintegration of his own country–no, his entire culture! A
man who
would rather hand his own children to these perverts and destroyers
than have
them be in the presence of those with a healthy sense of race, history
&
current events.
May 5, 2008 5:54 PM

Carlito B. said…

This doesn’t surprise me at all. Shine the light of truth on any
movement
or industry that has been destroying the fabric of our society and you
will
find the tribe members in leadership positions. Prove me wrong!
May 5, 2008 6:40 PM

Anonymous said…

Well we knew that was going to happen.
May 5, 2008 7:22 PM

Anonymous said…

The Broad Brush of this could also relate that Jeff Rense is part
of the
Jewish conspiracy as he is in media and is a Californian with ties to
gay
supporting Disney.
What this could be studied for is why is it that somes Jews have
abandoned
their Torah roots and then sought leadership positions against their
own
faith?
What is it in this community which is causing this as Apache
Indians
aren’t in the same numbers.

There is a difference between hammering all Jews and researching
historically how adept Jews were as a group at succeeding. Once upon a
time in
America Jews were banned from the cloth industry by law. In turn, they
went
into rags and dominated that recycling venue and made it an industry.
Sometimes Jews went into media and dominated that to the great
benefit of
America. All Americans can enjoy the early years of Hollywood and
Disney in
the fine wholesome creations they created.

What needs to be studied is there a pedophile problem turning
Jews into
homosexuals or is it something to do with guilt in being wealthy while
others
were worked to death in the holocaust that causes some Jews to self
loathe
their own heritage and America turning out a self destructive person
who is
taking part in a movement to destroy America.
Jeff Rense featured this blog and yet his guests and features are
people
like Devvy Kidd who are anarchists calling for the end of the GOP
which is
stuck with John McCain to people who claim Jesus and God do not exist.

There are allot of self destructive movements in this United
States doing
their worst to rip this nation apart as they judge others.

What would be fascinating would be for News From the West to
email all of
the people you list as being public they have contact information and
just ask
them about their homosexuality in how it started and if they have an
insight
why is it that it seems so many Jews are part of this in the context
why is it
so many Catholics like John Kerry are for aborting babies when it is
against
their religious teachings.

God bless.
May 5, 2008 7:39 PM

Anonymous said…

Protocols of the elders of zion, is the blue print for it all.

read it, and digest it.
May 5, 2008 7:42 PM

Anonymous said…

Jew homos are also known as He-Blews
May 5, 2008 9:05 PM

Anonymous said…

As a fag who is not a Jew, I have seen and known thousands of
people in
the gay community and very few are Jewish. To suggest otherwise is
ridiculous.
Just go to your local gay bar and see how many people are Jewish –
very few.
May 6, 2008 1:58 AM

Anonymous said…

It should be Zionists run, etc. Most “Jews” are in the dark like
the rest
of the masses. The “Zionists” are only one side of the problem. The
“Zionists”, Church(Jesuits/Catholic, Mormons, Protestants, etc.), the
Muslims,
etc are run by the same people. Instead of it being one or the other
it is
both. As long as the masses have different definitions for everything
and are
fighting each other instead of the real enemy, they will continue to
win.
May 6, 2008 12:16 PM

Anonymous said…

>>Just go to your local gay bar and see how many people are
Jewish – very
few.

But in a bar how can you tell who’s a jew? i mean is it the
difference of
the look in their dick being cut or uncut? im very serious, i cant
think of a
way that one could tell who would be a jew and who isnt.
May 6, 2008 1:04 PM

Anonymous said…

To the fag who is not a jew. It really makes no difference who’s
in your
fag bar. That’s not the point. Do you really think all the people name
above –
Jews who are leading this perverted movement – go to your bar? You
didn’t
address the point made – the JEWS are in leadership positions of every
part of
this movement. The point isn’t that Jews are fags though many are. The
point
is Jews undermine and destroy every society they attach themselves to.
Through communism, fagism, destruction of Christian values,
controlling
the media and the money, and now making laws which criminalize even
pointing
out the criminal conduct of Jews. Our country was founded by
Christians. jews
have destroyed it.
May 6, 2008 2:32 PM

Anonymous said…

I thought circumcision(genital mutilation) was required for their
male
“bonding” ritual, “Jews” or Gentiles.
May 6, 2008 4:20 PM

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Europäer glauben, Juden hätten “zu viel Macht”

On Tue, 15 May 2007 20:34:47 +0200, in de.soc.politik.misc [email protected]
wrote:

Die Anti-Defamation League befragte 2.714 Personen. Demnach haben viele
Europäer haben weiter anti-jüdische Ansichten – vorne weg Polen und
Spanier.

Viele Europäer haben laut einer Studie der Anti-Defamation League weiterhin
“klassische” anti-jüdische Ansichten und Vorurteile. Solche Einstellungen
könnten Antisemitismus und neue Gewalt gegen Juden zur Folge haben, sagte
Abraham Foxman, Vorsitzender der US-Organisation, die sich gegen
Diskriminierung und Diffamierung von Juden einsetzt, am Montag in
Jerusalem. Die Ergebnisse der Studie, für die Menschen in Deutschland,
Frankreich, Italien, Polen und Spanien befragt wurden, seien “sehr
Besorgnis erregend”.
Juden in der Wirtschaft “zu mächtig”

Eine Mehrheit der insgesamt 2.714 Befragten glaubte, dass Juden loyaler
Israel gegenüber eingestellt sind als ihrem Heimatland und mehr als 40
Prozent meinten, Juden hätten in der Wirtschaft “zu viel Macht”. Ein großer
Anteil der Umfrageteilnehmer meinte, dass Juden “zu viel darüber sprechen,
was ihnen während des Holocaust geschehen ist”. In Polen glaubten dies 48
Prozent, in Deutschland, Spanien und Italien 45 Prozent und in Frankreich
40 Prozent der Befragten.
Polen und Spanier die meisten Vorbehalte

Insgesamt sahen 20 Prozent Juden als verantwortlich für den Tod von Jesus
Christus, in Deutschland allein waren es 13 Prozent. Die Studie habe die
stärksten anti-jüdischen Vorbehalte bei Polen und Spaniern, die wenigsten
dagegen bei Deutschen und Franzosen gefunden, sagte Foxman.
Anti-jüdisch versus anti-israelisch

In Deutschland glaubten 44 Prozent, dass Gewalt gegen Juden in Europa
Ergebnis anti-jüdischer Gefühle ist, während 24 Prozent anti-israelische
Gefühle als Hintergrund sahen. Vor zwei Jahren war die Tendenz noch
umgekehrt: 27 Prozent sahen anti-jüdische und 43 Prozent anti-israelische
Einstellungen als Erklärung. 72 Prozent der Befragten in Deutschland waren
überzeugt, dass die deutsche Regierung genug für die Sicherheit jüdischer
Mitbürger unternimmt.

Deutschland sei das einzige untersuchte Land, in dem “traditionelle
anti-semitische Stereotypen” in den letzten zwei Jahren nicht angestiegen
sind, sagte Foxman. Die einzelnen Regierungen und die Europäische Union
müssten gezielt gegen solche Vorbehalte kämpfen und “Anti-Semitismus in
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ADL Report: Large portion of Europeans feel ZYDs too powerful
in business=TRUE!!

By Amiram Barkat, Haaretz Correspondent, and Haaretz Staff

A study conducted by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) among five
European countries found rising anti-Semitism, including beliefs that ZYDs
possess too much power in business and finance, the ADL announced Monday.

“A large number of Europeans continue to be infected with anti-ZYD
attitudes, holding on to the classical anti-Semitic canards and conspiracy
theories that have dogged ZYDs through the centuries,” said the
organization in a press release.

The study, which was distributed among 2,714 adults in France, Italy,
Germany, Spain, and Poland, found that negative attitudes toward ZYDs
increased, or in some instances did not change, when compared to a
similar study conducted in 2005.

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>On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:45:36 GMT, “Godzilla Pimp” wrote:

>>From: http://snipurl.com/dzm1

>>”German prosecutors have provoked outrage by ruling that the 1945 RAF
>>bombing of Dresden can legally be termed a “holocaust”.”

>>Well duh, it certainly was a holocaust if anything ever was (From Greek
>>holokaustos, burnt whole). They burned the whole city and everyone in it,
>>among other cities like Hamburg.

>>Besides, the Jews were not burned to death but supposedly gassed,
according
>>the final version of the fable (earlier ones included mass electrocution
and
>>steaming). No evidence of gas chambers has ever been found, of course,
>>because they never existed. But the Jews have a talent for getting the
dumb
>>”goyim” (cattle) to believe in such myths of murdered Jewish heroes,
>>Christianity being the most notable one.
>>GP

The real HOLOCAUST on Dresden was perpetrated on the innocent
civilians of Dresden, which had no military importance, by bomber
Harris/Horowitz !!

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:58:40 -0500, in alt.politics.nationalism.white
[email protected] (Whitey Loughmiller) wrote:

Dresden
Kevin Alfred Strom

And what was Dresden? Most of you have probably heard of Dresden
China, and that delicately executed and meticulously detailed
porcelain is really a perfect symbol for that city.

Dresden’s population had almost doubled in the months before the
attack, mainly as a result of the influx of refugees from the Eastern
Front, most of them women and young children.

Hundreds of thousands of innocents were literally consumed by fire, an
actual holocaust by the true definition of the word: complete
consumption by fire.

Free Speech — David Irving has generously made his Destruction of
Dresden available as a free download, in PDF format, at his Focal
Point Press website.

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APOCALYPSE AT DRESDEN

by R. H. S. Crossman (Esquire Magazine – November 1963)

The long suppressed story of the worst massacre in the history of the
world.

If the British Commonwealth and the United States last a thousand years,
men
may say that this was their darkest hour.

Were all the crimes against humanity committed during World War II the work
of Hitler’s underlings? That was certainly the impression created by the
fact that only Germans were brought to trial at Nüremburg. Alas! It is a
false impression. We all now know that in the terrible struggle waged
between the Red Army and the German Wehrmacht, the Russians displayed their
fair share of insensate inhumanity. What is less widely recognized —
because the truth, until only recently, has been deliberately suppressed —
is that the Western democracies were responsible for the most senseless
single act of mass murder committed in the whole course of World War II.

The devastation of Dresden in February, 1945, was one of those crimes
against humanity whose authors would have been arraigned at Nüremburg if
that Court had not been perverted into the instrument of Allied justice.
Whether measured in terms of material destruction or by loss of human life,
this “conventional” air raid was far more devastating than either of the
two
atomic raids against Japan that were to follow it a few months later. Out
of
28,410 houses in the inner city of Dresden, 24,866 were destroyed; and the
area of total destruction extended over eleven square miles.

As for the death roll, the population, as we shall see, had been well nigh
doubled by a last-minute influx of refugees flying before the Red Army; and
even the German authorities — usually so pedantic in their estimates —
gave up trying to work out the precise total after some 35,000 bodies had
been recognized, labeled and buried. We do know, however, that the
1,250,000
people in the city on the night of the raid had been reduced to 368,619 by
the time it was over; and it seems certain that the death roll must have
greatly exceeded the 71,879 at Hiroshima. Indeed, the German authorities
were probably correct who, a few days after the attack, put the total
somewhere between 120,000 and 150,000.

How was this horror permitted to happen? Was it a deliberate and considered
act of policy, or was it the result of one of those ghastly
misunderstandings or miscalculations that sometimes occur in the heat of
battle? There are many who will say that these are academic questions
belonging to history. I do not agree. Of course, what happened at Dresden
belongs to the prenuclear epoch. But it has a terrible relevance to the
defense strategy which the Western democracies are operating today. If the
crime of Dresden is not to be repeated on a vaster scale, we must find out
why it was committed. That, at least, has been my feeling, and there are
two
special reasons which have prompted me to go on investigating the facts for
so many years. In the first place, I was myself involved in a quite minor
capacity in the decisions which preceded it. When the Germans overran
France
in 1940 and the Chamberlain Government in London was replaced by the
Churchill Government, there was a purge in Whitehall. Unexpectedly I found
myself recruited to a secret department attached to the Foreign Office,
with
the title “Director of Psychological Warfare against Germany.” My main task
was to plan the overt and subvert propaganda which we hoped would rouse
occupied Europe against Hitler. But I soon found myself caught up in a
bitter top-secret controversy about the role of bomber offensive in the
breaking of German morale.

The Prime Minister was haunted by fears that the bloodletting of the Somme
and Passchendaele in World War I would have to be repeated if we tried to
defeat Hitler by landing and liberating Europe. So the Air Marshals found
it
easy to persuade him that if they were given a free hand they could make
these casualties unnecessary by smashing the German home front into
submission. What Hitler wreaked against London and Coventry, our bombers
would repay a thousandfold, until the inhabitants of Berlin, Hamburg and
every other city in Germany had been systematically “de-housed” and
pulverized into surrender. To achieve this, the Air Marshals demanded that
top priority in war production should be given not to preparations for the
second front, but to the construction of huge numbers of four-engined night
bombers.

Eagerly Sir Winston Churchill accepted their advice, with the backing of
his
whole Cabinet. The only warning voices raised were those of a number of
very
influential scientists who, by means of careful calculations, threw serious
doubt on the physical possibility of wreaking the degree of destruction
required. Their mathematical arguments were reinforced by the studies we
psychological warriors had made of British morale in the blitz. Assuming,
wisely as it worked out, that the German people would behave under air
attack at least as bravely as the British people, we demonstrated that the
scale of frightfulness our bombers could employ against German cities would
almost certainly strengthen civilian morale, and go stimulate the war
production that it was intended to weaken.

Early in 1941, these arguments were finally swept aside, and Britain was
completely committed to the bomber offensive. By the time it reached its
first climax in the raid on Hamburg, however, I had been transferred to
Eisenhower’s staff. I was happy, first in North Africa and then in SHAEF,
to
work with an Anglo-American staff who did not trouble to conceal how much
they detested the hysterical mania for destruction and the cold-blooded
delight in pounding the German home front to pieces displayed by the
big-bomb boys. Indeed, one of my pleasantest memories is the attitude
General Walter Bedell Smith displayed a few weeks after the Dresden raid.
Sir Winston had accused “Ike” of being soft to the German civilians and
ordered him to use terror tactics in order to panic them out of their homes
and onto the roads, and so to block the German retreat. No one contradicted
Sir Winston, but as soon as his back was turned, we were instructed to work
out a directive that would prevent him getting his way.

On V.E. Day, when I flew back to Britain in order to stand as a Labour
Candidate in Coventry, I assumed with relief that my concern with bombing
was over. But I was wrong. Within years, Coventry — the main victim of the
Luftwaffe — had “twinned” itself with Dresden, the main victim of the
R.A.F. And when Germany was divided and it became difficult for Westerners
to go behind the Iron Curtain, I had a standing invitation to visit Dresden
as the guest of its Lord Mayor. I have done so frequently, and on each
occasion I have tried to match the inside experience of bombing strategy I
acquired during the war with firsthand information from its victims “on the
other side of the hill.” I have also checked the published accounts of the
destruction of Dresden available in Western and Eastern Germany, against
the
official History of the Strategic Bombing Offensive published only two
years
ago in Britain. These researches have left me in no doubt whatever how
Dresden was destroyed, why it was destroyed, and what lessons we must draw
>from its destruction.

The prelude to the bombing of Dresden was sounded by the Russian communique
of January 12, 1945, which announced that the Red Army had resumed its
offensive all along the front, and was advancing into Prussia and Silesia.
This news could hardly have been more embarrassing, either to General
Dwight
D. Eisenhower whose armies were still recovering from the humiliating
effects of General Karl von Rundstedt’s Christmas offensive in the
Ardennes,
or to President Franklin D. Roosevelt and Prime Minister Churchill who were
now preparing for the Yalta Conference due to start on February 4. Since
the
post war settlement was bound to be discussed with Josef Stalin in terms
not
of principle but of pure politics, Sir Winston felt that the impression
created by the Red Army’s occupation of Eastern Europe and advance deep
into
Germany must somehow be countered. But how? The obvious answer was by a
demonstration right up against the Red Army of Western air power. What was
required, he decided, was a thunderclap of Anglo-American aerial
annihilation so frightful in the destruction it wreaked that even Stalin
would be impressed.

January 25 was the day when the decision was taken that resulted in the
blotting out of Dresden. Until then, the capital of Saxony had been
considered so famous a cultural monument and so futile a military target
that even the Commander in Chief of Bombing Command, Air Marshal Sir Arthur
Harris, had given it hardly a thought. All its flak batteries had been
removed for use on the Eastern front; and the Dresden authorities had taken
none of the precautions, either in the strengthening of air-raid shelters,
or in the provision of concrete bunkers that had so startlingly reduced
casualties in other German cities subjected to Allied attack. Instead, they
had encouraged rumors that it would be spared either because Churchill had
a
niece living there, or else because it was reserved by the Allies as their
main occupation quarters. These rumors were strengthened by the knowledge
that no less than some 26,000 Allied prisoners were quartered in and around
the city, and that its population had doubled to well over a million in
recent weeks by streams of refugees from the East.

All this Sir Winston knew on January 26. But early on that winter morning
he
had learned that the Russian Army had crossed the Oder at Breslav and was
now only sixty miles from Dresden. Angrily he rang up Sir Archibald
Sinclair, his Secretary of State for Air, and asked him what plans he had
for “basting the Germans — in their retreat from Breslav.” Sir Archibald,
whose main function it had been to protect Bomber Command from public
criticism by a series of lying assurances that scrupulous care was taken to
bomb only military targets, remained true to type. He prevaricated over the
phone and next day replied that in the view of the Air Staff “intervention
in winter weather at very long range over Eastern Germany would be
difficult.” To this the Premier replied with a memorandum so offensive in
its controlled fury that the Minister and the Air Staff, never noted for
their moral courage, were stampeded into action. At once, orders were given
to concert with the American Eighth Air Force a plan for wiping out
Leipzig,
Chemnitz and Dresden.

Sir Winston and his staff left for Yalta, where it became only too clear
that the Premier’s forebodings were justified. Strengthened by his
victories, Stalin pressed his political demands upon a President now
weakened and very near his death, and a Prime Minister isolated and ill at
ease. When suggestions were made that the Western bombing should be used to
help the Red Army advance, the Russian generals were chilly and
unresponsive. Nevertheless, Sir Arthur Harris had already selected Dresden,
now only sixty miles from the front, for destruction. And day by day, Sir
Winston hoped that he would be able to impress Stalin with the
demonstration
of what Allied air power could achieve so near the Russian allies. But the
weather was against him. The conference broke up on the eleventh, and it
was
only three days later — long after the conference when it could no longer
have any effect on the negotiations — that the R.A.F.’s spokesman in
London
proudly announced the destruction of Dresden.

We must now turn back and see what the airmen had been planning. Sir Arthur
Harris was quick to seize the opportunity presented by the Prime Minister’s
insistence that Bomber Command must make its presence felt in Eastern
Germany. Since 1941, by a slow process of trial and error which had cost
him
many thousands of air crews, he had perfected his new technique of
“saturation precision bombardment.” First, daylight operations over Germany
had been discarded as too costly; then, with raiding confined to nighttime
target bombing, after a long period of quite imaginary successes, had been
abandoned as too wildly inaccurate. The decision was taken to set each city
center on fire and destroy the residential areas, sector by sector.

In this new kind of incendiary attack, highly trained special crews were
sent ahead to delineate a clearly defined target area with marker flares,
nicknamed by the Germans “Christmas trees.” When this had been done, all
that remained for the rest of the bomber forces was to lay its bomb carpet
so thickly that the defense, the A.R.P., the police, and the fire services
would all be overwhelmed.

This fire-raising technique was first used with complete success in the
great raid on Hamburg. Thousands of individual fires conglomerated into a
single blaze, creating the famous “fire-storms” effect, first described by
the Police President of the city in a secret report to Hitler that soon
fell
into Allied hands:

“As the result of the confluence of a number of fires, the air above is
heated to such an extent that in consequence of its reduced specific
gravity, a violent updraft occurs which causes great suction of the
surrounding air radiating from the center of the fire… The suction of the
fire storm in the larger of these area fire zones has the effect of
attracting the already overheated air in smaller area fire zones… One
effect of this phenomenon was that the fire in the smaller area fire zones
was fanned as by a bellows as the central suction of the biggest and
fiercest fires caused increased and accelerated attraction of the
surrounding masses of fresh air. In this way all the area fires became
united in one vast fire.”

The Hamburg fire storm probably killed some 40,000 people: three-quarters
by
carbon-monoxide poisoning as a result of the oxygen being sucked out of the
air; the rest by asphyxiation.

As soon as he heard that permission had been given to destroy Dresden, Air
Marshal Harris decided to achieve this by a deliberately created fire
storm,
and to increase the effect he persuaded the Americans to split the
available
bombers into three groups. The task of the first wave was to create the
fire
storm. Three hours later, a second and much heavier night force of British
bombers was timed to arrive when the German fighter and flak defenses would
be off guard, and the rescue squads on their way. Its task was to spread
the
fire storm. Finally, the next morning, a daylight attack by the Eighth Air
Force was to concentrate on the outlying areas, the new city.

Two-pronged attacks had been successfully carried out during 1944 against a
number of German towns. The three-pronged attack employed at Dresden was
unique and uniquely successful. The first wave, consisting of some two
hundred fifty night bombers, arrived precisely on time and duly created a
fire storm. The second force — more than twice as strong and carrying an
enormous load of incendiaries — also reached the target punctually, and,
undisturbed by flak or night fighters, spent thirty-four minutes carefully
spreading the fires outside the first target area. Finally, to complete the
devastation, some two hundred eleven Flying Fortresses began the third
attack at 11:30 a.m. on the following morning. Without exaggeration, the
commanders could claim that the Dresden raid had “gone according to plan.”
Everything which happened in the stricken city had been foreseen and
planned
with meticulous care.

So far, we have been looking at the Dresden raid from “our own side of the
hill” — considering the point of view of Mr. Churchill, concerned to
create
the best impression possible on Stalin at the Yalta Conference, and of Air
Marshal Harris, eager to demonstrate the technique for creating a fire
storm. But what was the impact on the Dresdeners? Inevitably the raid has
created its own folklore. Thousands of those who survived it now live in
Western Germany, each with his own memory to retail to the visitor. In
Dresden itself, the city fathers have now established an official Communist
version, of which the main purpose clearly is to put the main blame on the
“American imperialists” (we are solemnly told, for instance, that the
R.A.F.
was directed to special targets in the city by an American capitalist whose
villa on the far side of the Elbe is now a luxury club for favored
Communist
artists). Nevertheless, anyone who bothers to read the books published in
both Germanies and to compare the stories he hears from Communist and
anti-Communist witnesses soon discovers that not only the outline of events
but the details of the main episodes are agreed beyond dispute.

Dresden is one of those German cities which normally devotes Shrove Tuesday
to Carnival festivities. But on February 13, 1945, with the Red Army sixty
miles away, the mood was somber. The refugees, who were crowded into every
house, each had his horror story about Russian atrocities. In many parts of
the city, and particularly around the railway station, thousands of
latecomers who could find no corner in which to sleep were camping in the
bitter cold of the open streets. The only signs of Carnival spirit, when
the
sirens sounded at 9:55 p.m., were the full house at the circus and a few
gangs of little girls wandering about in fancy dress. Though no one took
the
danger of a raid very seriously, orders must be obeyed and the population
just had time to get down to its shelters before the first bombs fell at
nine minutes past the hour.

Twenty-four minutes later, the last British bomber was on its way back to
England, and the inner city of Dresden was ablaze. Since there were no
steel
structures in any of its apartment houses, the floors quickly capsized, and
half an hour after the raid was over the fire storm transformed thousands
of
individual blazes into a sea of flames, ripping off the roofs, tossing
trees, cars and lorries into the air, and simultaneously sucking the oxygen
out of the air-raid shelters.

Most of those who remained below ground were to die painlessly, their
bodies
first brilliantly tinted bright orange and blue, and then, as the heat grew
intense, either totally incinerated or melted into a thick liquid sometimes
three or four feet deep. But there were others who, when the bombing
stopped, rushed upstairs. Some of them stopped to collect their belongings
before escaping, and they were caught by the second raid. But some 10,000
fled to the great open space of the Grosse Garten, the magnificent royal
park of Dresden, nearly one and a half square miles in all.
Here they were caught by the second raid, which started without an air-raid
warning, at 1:22 a.m. Far heavier than the first — there were twice as
many
bombers with a far heavier load of incendiaries — its target markers had
been deliberately placed in order to spread the fires into the black
rectangle which was all the airmen could see of the Grosse Garten. Within
minutes the fire storm was raging across the grass, ripping up some trees
and littering the branches of others with clothes, bicycles and dismembered
limbs that remained hanging for days afterward.

Equally terrible was the carnage in the great square outside the main
railway station. Here, the thousands camping out had been reinforced by
other thousands escaping from the inner city, while within the station a
dozen trains, when the first sirens blew, had been shunted to the
marshaling
yards and escaped all damage. After the first raid stopped, these trains
were shunted back to the station platforms — just in time to receive the
full force of the bombardment. For weeks, mangled bodies were littered
inside and outside the station building. Below ground, the scene was even
more macabre. The restaurants, cellars and tunnels could easily have been
turned into effective bombproof shelters. The authorities had not bothered
to do so, and of the two thousand crowded in the dark, one hundred were
burned alive and five hundred asphyxiated before the doors could be opened
and the survivors pulled out.

The timing of the second raid, just three hours after the first, not only
insured that the few night fighters in the area were off their guard, but
it
also created the chaos intended and effectively interrupted all rescue
work.
For many miles around, military detachments, rescue squads and fire
brigades
started on their way to the stricken city, and most of them were making
their way through the suburbs when the bombs began to fall. Those who
turned
back were soon swallowed up in the mad rush of panic evacuation. Most of
those who proceeded toward the center perished in the fire storm.

The most terrible scenes in the inner city took place in the magnificent
old
market square, the Altmarkt. Soon after the first raid finished, this great
square was jam-packed with panting survivors. When the second raid struck,
they could scarcely move until someone remembered the huge concrete
emergency water tank that had been constructed to one side. This tank was a
hundred by fifty yards by six feet deep. There was a sudden stampede to
escape the heat of the fire storm by plunging into it. Those who did so
forgot that its sloping sides were slippery, with no handholds. The
nonswimmers sank to the bottom, dragging the swimmers with them. When the
rescuers reached the Altmarkt five days later, they found the tank filled
with bloated corpses, while the rest of the square was littered with
recumbent or seated figures so shrunk by the incineration that thirty of
them could be taken away in a single bathtub.

But perhaps the most memorable horror of this second raid occurred in the
hospitals. In the last year of the war, Dresden had become a hospital city,
with many of its schools converted into temporary wards. Of its nineteen
hospitals, sixteen were badly damaged and three, including the main
maternity clinic, totally destroyed. Thousands of crippled survivors were
dragged by their nurses to the banks of the River Elbe, where they were
laid
in rows on the grass to wait for the daylight. But when it came, there was
another horror. Punctually at 11:30 a.m., the third wave of bombers, the
two
hundred eleven American Flying Fortresses, began their attack. Once again,
the area of destruction was extended across the city. But what the
survivors
all remember were the scores of Mustang fighters diving low over the bodies
huddled on the banks of the Elbe, as well as on the larger lawns of the
Grosse Garten, in order to shoot them up. Other Mustangs chose as their
targets the serried crowds that blocked every road out of Dresden. No one
knows how many women and children were actually killed by those dive-
bombing
attacks. But in the legend of Dresden destruction, they have become the
symbol of Yankee sadism and brutality, and the inquirer is never permitted
to forget that many choirboys of one of Dresden’s most famous churches were
among the victims.

For five days and nights, the city burned and no attempt was made to enter
it. Then at last the authorities began to grapple with the crisis and to
estimate the damage. Of Dresden’s five theatres, all had gone. Of her
fifty-four churches, nine were totally destroyed and thirty-eight seriously
damaged. Of her one hundred thirty-nine schools, sixty-nine ceased to exist
and fifty were badly hit. The great zoo which lay just beyond the Grosse
Garten had been struck in the second raid, and the panicked animals had
mingled with the desperate survivors. Now they were rounded up and shot.
Those who escaped from the prisons, when they too were blown up, had better
fortune: they all managed to get away, including a number of brave
anti-Nazis.

But some things had survived destruction. The few factories Dresden
possessed were outside the city center, and soon were at work again. So too
was the railway system. Within three days, indeed, military trains were
running once again right through the city, and the marshaling yards —
untouched by a bomb — were in full operation. It was as though an ironical
fate had decided that the first fire storm deliberately created by mortal
man should destroy everything worth preserving, and leave untouched
anything
of military value.

In their salvage work, the Nazis relied on some 25,000 Allied prisoners of
war, concentrated in and around the city. Dresden, as was known very well
in
London and Washington, was not only a hospital city but a prisoner-of-war
city — still another reason why the authorities assumed it would not be
attacked. Faced with the appalling scenes of suffering, the prisoners
seemed
to have worked with a will, even after some of their fellow-prisoners had
been shot under martial law for looting.

What Dresdeners chiefly remember, of these first days after the raid, is
the
disposal of the bodies. Throughout the war, German local authorities had
been extremely careful to show great respect for death, enabling relatives
wherever possible to identify and to bury their own dead. At first, this
procedure was followed in Dresden. But weeks after the raid there were
still
thousands of unopened cellars under the smoldering ruins, and the air was
thick with the fog and sweet stench of rotting flesh. An S.S. commander
made
the decision that the daily procession of horse-drawn biers from the city
to
the cemeteries outside must be stopped. If plague was to be prevented, the
rest of the corpses must be disposed of more speedily. Hurriedly, a
monstrous funeral pyre was constructed in the Altmarkt. Steel shutters from
one of Dresden’s biggest department stores were laid across broken slabs of
ironstone. On this macabre gridiron, the bodies were piled with straw
between each layer, soaked with gasoline and set ablaze. Nine thousand
corpses were disposed of in this way, and eight cubic meters of ash were
then loaded into gasoline containers and buried in a graveyard outside the
city, twenty-five feet wide and fifteen feet deep.

If it was expected in either London or Washington that the destruction of
Dresden, despite its negligible military significance, would at least
shatter German morale, this hope was soon to be disappointed — thanks to
Paul Joseph Goebbels’ skillful exploitation of the disaster. For days, the
Propaganda Ministry in Berlin poured out, both in its foreign and in its
home services, a stream of eyewitness accounts of the stricken city, backed
up by moralistic attacks on the cold-blooded sadism of the men who created
the fire storm. In his secret propaganda, Dr. Goebbels did even better by
leaking to the neutral press a fictitious top-secret estimate that the
casualties had probably reached 260,000. As a result of this Nazi
propaganda
campaign, the German people were convinced that the Anglo-American forces
were indeed bent on their destruction. And their morale was once again
stiffened by terror of defeat.

Disturbed by the success of Dr. Goebbels’ propaganda, the airmen decided to
call a press conference on February 16 at SHAEF. As a result of the
briefing, given by a British Air Commodore, Associated Press cabled a
special dispatch all over the world, announcing “the long-awaited decision
to adopt deliberate terror bombings of German population centers as a
ruthless expedient of hastening Hitler’s doom.” The correspondents added
that the Dresden attack was “for the avowed purpose of heaping more
confusion on Nazi road and rail traffic, and to sap German morale.”

When this dispatch reached London, it was immediately censored on the
ground
that officially the R.A.F. only bombed military targets, and the
attribution
to it of terror raids was a vicious piece of Nazi propaganda. In the United
States, where the dispatch was widely publicized, the embarrassment caused
to the Administration was acute, since the Air Force spokesmen had seldom
failed to point out the difference between the indiscriminate R.A.F. night
attacks and the selective and precise nature of the daylight bombing
carried
out by the Eighth Air Force.

In order to stop awkward questions, General George C. Marshall then gave a
public assurance that the bombing on Dresden had taken place at Russian
request. Although no evidence was produced either then or since for the
truth of this statement, it was accepted uncritically and has since found
its way into a number of official American histories.

But suppression was not sufficient to stem the rising wave of public
protest. Coming as it did when the war was virtually over, the wanton
destruction of the Florence of the North and the mass murder of so many of
its inhabitants was too much, even for a world public opinion fed for years
on strident war propaganda. The publication of a lengthy report by a
Swedish
correspondent caused a revulsion of feeling.

Within a few weeks, this revulsion against indiscriminate bombing had
affected even Sir Winston Churchill. Up till now, the critics in the
British
Parliament of area bombing had been a small derided minority. Suddenly,
their influence began to grow, and on March 28, Sir Winston in response to
this new mood, wrote to the Chief of the Air Staff, beginning with the
remarkable words:

“It seems to me that the moment has come when the question of bombing of
German cities simply for the sake of increasing the terror, though under
other pretexts, should be reviewed.”

Since the Premier had taken the lead in demanding the switch from target to
area bombing and had actively encouraged each new advance proposed by Air
Marshal Harris in the technique of air obliteration, this memorandum could
hardly have been less felicitously phrased. It provided damning evidence
that so long as terror bombing was popular, the politicians would take
credit for it; but now that public opinion was revolting against its
senseless brutality, they were only too obviously running for cover and
leaving the air force to take the blame.

So outraged was the Chief of the Air Staff that on this occasion he stood
up
to Sir Winston, forcing him to withdraw the memorandum, and to substitute
for it what the official historians — who narrate this incident in full —
have described as “a somewhat more discreetly and fairly worded document.”

But in Britain at least the damage had already been done. From that moment,
Bomber Command, which for years had been the object of adulation, became
increasingly discredited, and the nickname of its Commander in Chief
changed
>from “Bomber” Harris to “Butcher” Harris. Although the bomber crews,
suffered far the heaviest casualties of any of the British armed services,
no campaign medal was struck to distinguish their part in winning the war.
In his victory broadcast of May 13, 1945, Sir Winston omitted any tribute
to
them, and after the Labour Government came to power, Earl Attlee was just
as
vindictive. In January, 1946, he omitted their Commander in Chief from his
victory honors list. Sir Arthur Harris accepted the insult loyally, and on
February 13 sailed to exile in South Africa.

The Eighth Air Force was treated more gently, both by the politicians in
Washington and by the American public. Its airmen received their share of
campaign medals, and to this day it has never been officially admitted that
by the end of the war they were bombing city centers and residential areas
as wantonly by day as the R.A.F. was by night. There was, however, an
important difference between the public image of the two Air Forces. The
British Cabinet, having secretly decided to sanction indiscriminate terror
bombing, concealed this decision from the British public and therefore
compelled Bomber Command to operate under cover of a sustained and
deliberate lie. In the case of the Eighth Air Force, self-deception took
place of lying. Instead of doing one thing and saying another, the myth was
maintained that on every mission the Flying Fortresses aimed exclusively at
military targets, and this is still part of the official American legend of
World War II. It was because it was impossible to square this legend with
what had happened at Dresden that General Marshall had to excuse American
protestation in that holocaust on the fictitious ground that the Russians
had requested the attack.

I leave it to the reader to decide which form was more nauseating —
British
lying or American self-deception. For what concerns me in this inquiry is
not the public image of Anglo-American idealism that was shattered by the
Dresden raid, but the crime against humanity which was perpetrated. That it
was decided to bomb a city of no military value simply in order to impress
Stalin. That a fire storm was deliberately created in order to kill as many
people as possible, and that the survivors were machine-gunned as they lay
helpless in the open — all this has been established without a shadow of a
doubt. What remains is to ask how decent, civilized politicians
enthusiastically approved such mass murder and decent, civilized servicemen
conscientiously carried it out.

The usual explanation — or excuse — is that strategic bombing was only
adopted by the Western powers as a method of retaliation in a total war
started by totalitarians. This is at best a half-truth. The Nazis and the
Communists dabbled in terror raids on civilian targets. But they were
old-fashioned and imperialist enough to hold that the aim of war is not to
destroy the enemy, but to defeat his armies in the field, to occupy his
country, and exploit its resources. That is why both Stalin and Hitler
preferred to use their air power, not as a separate weapon of unlimited
war,
but as a tactical adjunct to conventional land and sea operations. In fact,
the only nations which applied the theory of unlimited war really
systematically were the two great Western democracies. Both created a
gigantic strategic air force and carried out quite separate but eventually
unsuccessful attempts to defeat Germany by aerial annihilation.

Yet, at first sight, terror bombing seems to me, as an Englishman, a form
of
warfare repugnant to our national temperament, and utterly unsuited to an
island people, itself hopelessly vulnerable to indiscriminate air attack.
And I suspect that most Americans also feel that it does not conform with
the traditions of the American way of life.

Why then did both nations adopt it?

I believe that the motive which prompted us was a very characteristic
Anglo-Saxon desire to defend ourselves without preparing for war to win the
fruits of victory; without actual fighting, and (if this proved impossible)
at least to keep casualties down to a minimum among our own soldiers. Not
only do British and American fighting men demand a far higher standard of
living than most of their enemies. Even more important, they insist that
they should not be required to risk death in close combat if remote-control
methods of destroying the enemy are available. That, I am sure, is the main
reason why our politicians and generals felt morally justified in
conducting
a bomber offensive against Germany which culminated in the destruction of
Dresden.

Once we see this, we are no longer surprised that, as soon as an atomic
bomb
had been perfected, President Truman decided, with the full approval of the
British Prime Minister, to use it. In this way, he could finish off the
Japanese without a landing that would have cost thousands of American
lives!

The moral I draw from the terrible story of Dresden is that the atom bombs
employed on Hiroshima and Nagasaki did not inaugurate a new epoch in the
history of war. They merely provided a new method of achieving victory
without the casualties involved in land fighting far more deadly and far
more economical than the thousand-bomber raid of World War II. Here, our
politicians and generals felt, was the ultimate weapon which would enable
the democracies to disarm and to relax — yet deter aggression.

Alas! Nearly twenty years of bitter experience have taught us that the
world
was not made safe for democracy either by the “conventional” fire storm
created by the bombers in Dresden, or by the atomic fire storm of
Hiroshima.
Even in modern war, crime does not always pay!

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