And Mr. McVay is a spammer. He repeats his previous posts without mercy
on the poor readers of the NG. He lied about me, and instead of showing
proof, he made up a new lie and said it justified the first. The first lie he
repeated
half a dozen times. I finally got tired of confronting him. He obviously has
no morals, as one might expect of a Zionist sympathizer.
RLA
“Kenneth McVay, OBC” wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Matt Giwer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Mr. Giwer is, as far as I can determine, a troller whose only
> interest is in causing fights. While he can sound superficially
> plausible, he has lied** about what has been said in exchanges (while
> accusing others of lying), refused to document claims, pretended not
> to see posts which contain documented refutation of his claims (even
> when they have been emailed to him), engaged in actual libel*, and
> generally conducted himself with such complete lack of intellectual
> and factual integrity that there seems to be no point in taking
> the time to read and respond. For detailed and documented
> evidence of this, please refer to
> https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
>
> If you do not enjoy the luxury of a news filter, simply delete Mr.
> Giwer’s articles unread. With a few moments’ practice, they are easy
> to identify.
>
> Mr. Giwer’s handlers report that he has responded well to training, and
> now reacts in the prescribed manner, changing his userid each time the
> bell is sounded.
>
> Followups to Giwer trolls should be redirected to Mr. Giwer’s special
> newsgroup, alt.bonehead.matt-giwer, where they will be appropriately
> ignored (the group has no users – it’s just a convenient toilet for
> Matt’s vomitus). If your site does not carry alt.bonehead.matt-giwer,
> redirect non-Holocaust articles to alt.politics.white-power,
> an equally vapid dumping ground for Giwerundian babblings.
>
> Crawler bait: [email protected] Matthias Giwer
> Lincoln James <[email protected]> Matthias Giwer
> Kainee <[email protected]> Matt Giwer
> Rabbi Moshe Dreckschreiber
> Rabbi Dr. Gedalia Pashkvilkemacher
>
> —
> “…I note that on the few occasions of which I am aware where purveyors of
> anti-Semitic propaganda have endeavoured to justify their materials in
> court on the facts and the merits, they have been singularly unsuccessful…”
> (http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/hweb/people/s/scully-olga/reason.html)
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Mr. McVay is a paid propagandist for the Zionists. He makes no secret of
this
but has claimed in the past that his efforts are directed only to the
Holocaust.
He is now going the whole hog, taking the Zionist part in matters to do
only with
Israel and Palestine. I thought he might.
RLA
“Kenneth McVay, OBC” wrote:
> Mr. Giwer is, as far as I can determine, a troller whose only
> interest is in causing fights. While he can sound superficially
> plausible, he has lied** about what has been said in exchanges (while
> accusing others of lying), refused to document claims, pretended not
> to see posts which contain documented refutation of his claims (even
> when they have been emailed to him), engaged in actual libel*, and
> generally conducted himself with such complete lack of intellectual
> and factual integrity that there seems to be no point in taking
> the time to read and respond. For detailed and documented
> evidence of this, please refer to
> https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
>
> If you do not enjoy the luxury of a news filter, simply delete Mr.
> Giwer’s articles unread. With a few moments’ practice, they are easy
> to identify.
>
> Mr. Giwer’s handlers report that he has responded well to training, and
> now reacts in the prescribed manner, changing his userid each time the
> bell is sounded.
>
> Followups to Giwer trolls should be redirected to Mr. Giwer’s special
> newsgroup, alt.bonehead.matt-giwer, where they will be appropriately
> ignored (the group has no users – it’s just a convenient toilet for
> Matt’s vomitus). If your site does not carry alt.bonehead.matt-giwer,
> redirect non-Holocaust articles to alt.politics.white-power,
> an equally vapid dumping ground for Giwerundian babblings.
>
> Crawler bait: [email protected] Matthias Giwer
> Lincoln James <[email protected]> Matthias Giwer
> Kainee <[email protected]> Matt Giwer
> Rabbi Moshe Dreckschreiber
> Rabbi Dr. Gedalia Pashkvilkemacher
>
> —
> The Nizkor Project – An electronic Holocaust educational resource
> David Irving, Holocaust denial, and his connections to Right-Wing
> Extremists and Neo-Nazism in Germany:
> http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/hweb/people/f/funke-hajo/
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Adam Littman wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, “Tom H.” <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> No. If the “littler” (What is the criterion for being “littler” in
> >> this instance?) kids are throwing rocks on the other hand…
> >
> >So you’re saying that if little kids throw rocks it’s ok to launch rockets
> >at them?
>
> When a mob attacks, whether with rocks and guns and bombs, as the Palestinians
> do, or with their bare hands, they become a threat to the lives and property
> of the people they are attacking.
>
> Talking about an “unarmed” mob makes about as much sense as talking about an
> “unarmed” rogue elephant. A mob is inherently dangerous, weapons increase the
> danger but they are not the cause of it.
It is sick to see a rabid Zionist claim that the Palestinians are a
“threat to lives and property” when the Property they are on
is their own and the intruders are killing them. Nauseous in fact.
Mr. Littman is a thoroughly indoctrinated prig of a Zionist.
RLA
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Israel does it all the time. On one of the boards I subscribe to
there was a sickening picture of a Palestinian boy whose head had been cleaved
by a large projectile.
RLA
“Tom H.” wrote:
> > No. If the “littler” (What is the criterion for being “littler” in
> > this instance?) kids are throwing rocks on the other hand…
>
> So you’re saying that if little kids throw rocks it’s ok to launch rockets
> at them?
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Subject: Re: Blame Palestinians to justify greed and avarice: GIVE THE
PALESTINIANS BACK THEIR HOMES!!!
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Dr. Bill Friend, an anti Zionist Jew, says: “it is very simple, you stole their land,
they want it back.”
I generally agree except that you didn’t steal their land, you robbed it from them at
gun point,
and killed those who resisted you. You are truly monsters on the face of the earth.
RLA
Matt Giwer wrote:
> Susan Cohen wrote:
> >
> > meshehu wrote:
> >
> > > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (David
> > > Goldman) wrote:
> > >
> > > > >Why do you think giving the Palestinians “back” their homes will stop
> > > > >bloodshed of Jewish (or Palestinian) lives? Were Jews not killed in equal
> > > > >and greater numbers throughout history? What does giving Palestinians homes
> > > > >have to do with bloodshed? If anything, they have shown the more we give
> > > > >them, the more they kill us!!!
> > > >
> > > > >Rafi
> > > >
> > > > What do you mean?? Since the Palestinians are not looking for “gifts”
> > > > but justice,
> >
> > Oh, please! This has got to be the biggest peice of propaganda
> > you’ve ever swallowed & regurgitated!
> > If they were looking for “justice”, they’d
> > a) place the blame for their situation where it actually belongs –
> > on the shoulders of their leaders & their own gullibility
> > b) they would AT THE VERY LEAST have followed thru on
> > the promises they made at Oslo
> > c) they would *certainly* have taken the offer they were last
> > made.
>
> If they do none of the above, it is still greed and avarice motivating
> them to steal the property of others.
>
> Why work so hard to confirm an old stereotype is in fact true?
>
> > Instead, they have done nothing but lie to the world (that either
> > doesn’t realize or doesn’t care) & continued to not only kill Jews,
> > but incite each other to kill Jews & raise their own children to
> > focus on little else.
>
> > They don’t want a homeleand; they want an excuse to kill Jews.
>
> Deadly force is universally justified in the recovery of stolen
> property.
>
> > > all that is required is to allow any Palestinian who
> > > > wants to return to anywhere in Palestine to do so, or receive
> > > > compensation. Plus total equal rights and the end to Apartheid. What’s
> > > > so hard about that? Put the paranoia aside.
> > >
> > > Dr. Ahmad Abu Halabiya, Member of the PA appointed “Futwa Council” and
> > > former acting Rector of the Islamic University in Gaza:
> > >
> >
> > Thanks for posting this, but I’m sure it won’t penetrate.
> >
> > Susan
> >
> > >
> > > <…>
> > >
> > > “Have no mercy on the Jews, no matter where they are, in any country.
> > > Fight them, wherever you are. Wherever you meet them, kill them. Wherever
> > > you are, kill those Jews and those Americans who are like them – and those
> > > who stand by them – they are all in one trench, against the Arabs and the
> > > Muslims – because they established Israel here, in the beating heart of
> > > the Arab world, in Palestine. They created it to be the outpost of their
> > > civilization – and the vanguard of their army, and to be the sword of the
> > > West and the crusaders, hanging over the necks of the monotheists, the
> > > Muslims in these lands. They wanted the Jews to be their spearhead”
> > >
> > > “Let us put our trust in Allah, close ranks, and unite our words, and the
> > > slogan of us all should be, ‘Jihad! Jihad! For the sake of Palestine, and
> > > for the sake of Jerusalem and Al-Aqsa!'”
> > >
> > > “We will not give up a single grain of soil of Palestine, from Haifa, and
> > > Jaffa, and Acre, and Mulabbas [Petah Tikva] and Salamah, and Majdal
> > > [Ashkelon], and all the land, and Gaza, and the West BankS”
> > >
> > > “Allah, deal with the Jews, your enemies and the enemies of Islam. Deal
> > > with the crusaders, and America, and Europe behind them, O Lord of the
> > > worlds.”
> > >
> > > This document was translated by The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI)
> > >
> > > http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_btl/20001011_xcbtl_myths_brmi.shtml
>
> —
> For recycling, should trash be separated by color,
> religion, sexual orientation or ethnic origin?
> — The Iron Webmaster, 25
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No it has been robbed by the monstrous Zionists.
RLA
Matt Giwer wrote:
> “Kenneth McVay, OBC” wrote:
>
> It is still not jewish property and has been stolen.
>
> —
> Even Sir Thomas More was convicted in an English court.
> — The Iron Webmaster, 456
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Mr. McVay lies when he says I called half of American Jewry liars.
He could not produce evidence of this, of course, since I didn’t say it.
He then said that I had called Zionists liars. Here he is on firmer ground,
since the large majority of the Zionists and their sympathizers who post
here make lying into an art. (There are a few who are honest, but
damned few. Giora Drachsler, Albert Reingewirtz, a few others, not many.)
Then he asserts that I said that half of American Jewry are Zionists.
Now this I never said. For openers, I use the term Zionist sympathizer
for most of the Jews who do not live in Israel, yet support it. They display
various shades of opinion, and many are not quite so dogmatic in their
ideology as the real thing. For another, the statistic does not recommend itself
to
me as being true. Most American Jews are conservative or Reform,
and a large number more just don’t belong to any group any more.
More than half the marriages in American Jewry are outside the group,
and although some outsiders, mainly women, convert, most don’t and one
would think that these families are not devout at least. So it is an excellent
question how many American Jews support Israel. Another excellent question
is how many _would_ support Israel if they knew what a horrible country
Israel really is.
McVay is really just spamming this NG, it takes no time nor effort to
paste up the same defamation time after time. One wonders why he does it.
Do you suppose that B’nai Brith has told him to: “go get ’em tiger”?
I had thought he was a young, naive sort, turns out he is mid fifties, old
enough to know better than to post this tripe he puts out.
RLA
“Kenneth McVay, OBC” wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Roger Alexander <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Mr. McVay is a paid propagandist for the Zionists. He makes no secret of
> >this
> >but has claimed in the past that his efforts are directed only to the
> >Holocaust.
> >He is now going the whole hog, taking the Zionist part in matters to do
> >only with
> >Israel and Palestine. I thought he might.
>
> Don’t want to deal with the reality, eh, Mr. Alexander? Can’t say I’m
> surprised… after all, you’re the maroon who calls half of American
> Jewry liars.
>
> Mr. Giwer is, as far as I can determine, a troller whose only
> interest is in causing fights. While he can sound superficially
> plausible, he has lied** about what has been said in exchanges (while
> accusing others of lying), refused to document claims, pretended not
> to see posts which contain documented refutation of his claims (even
> when they have been emailed to him), engaged in actual libel*, and
> generally conducted himself with such complete lack of intellectual
> and factual integrity that there seems to be no point in taking
> the time to read and respond. For detailed and documented
> evidence of this, please refer to
> https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
>
> If you do not enjoy the luxury of a news filter, simply delete Mr.
> Giwer’s articles unread. With a few moments’ practice, they are easy
> to identify.
>
> Mr. Giwer’s handlers report that he has responded well to training, and
> now reacts in the prescribed manner, changing his userid each time the
> bell is sounded.
>
> Followups to Giwer trolls should be redirected to Mr. Giwer’s special
> newsgroup, alt.bonehead.matt-giwer, where they will be appropriately
> ignored (the group has no users – it’s just a convenient toilet for
> Matt’s vomitus). If your site does not carry alt.bonehead.matt-giwer,
> redirect non-Holocaust articles to alt.politics.white-power,
> an equally vapid dumping ground for Giwerundian babblings.
>
> Crawler bait: [email protected] Matthias Giwer
> Lincoln James <[email protected]> Matthias Giwer
> Kainee <[email protected]> Matt Giwer
> Rabbi Moshe Dreckschreiber
> Rabbi Dr. Gedalia Pashkvilkemacher
>
> —
> “…I note that on the few occasions of which I am aware where purveyors of
> anti-Semitic propaganda have endeavoured to justify their materials in
> court on the facts and the merits, they have been singularly unsuccessful…”
> (http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/hweb/people/s/scully-olga/reason.html)
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Albert Reingewirtz wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Tom H.
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Id form a mob too if self righteous bastards came and built settlements on
> > my property.
>
> Is this what you want the Aborigines to do, ass hole?
Come on, Albert. Aborigines are the people of Australia.
The comment is a fair one, you would admit if you weren’t so imbued with
your ideology.
RLA
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Very erudite. Why is ti that your brains are so advanced and your
moral sense is atrophied?
RLA
Joseph Hertzlinger wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:28:08 +1100, Tom H. <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >> No. If the “littler” (What is the criterion for being “littler” in
> >> this instance?) kids are throwing rocks on the other hand…
> >
> >So you’re saying that if little kids throw rocks it’s ok to launch
> >rockets at them?
>
> War is not a sport.
>
> There were people in the Middle Ages who thought that war is a sport.
> For example, Beorhtnoth, Earl of Essex, was the commander of the
> English forces at the Battle of Maldon. At that battle, the English
> were on one side of a river and the Danes on the other side. The only
> way to cross was via a narrow bridge which the English were able to
> defend. The vikings (commanded by Hagar the Horrible, no doubt) asked
> permission to cross the bridge in order for a “fair fight” to take
> place. Beorhtnoth agreed to let them across. This was followed by a
> battle in which the Earl and his loyal followers (Moe, Larry, and
> Curly) were killed and the English defeated. Beorhtnoth has since
> acquired a reputation as a first-class fool.
>
> But wait, there’s more. The Crusades took place shortly after the
> vikings were converted to Christianity. The Crusades bear a closer
> resemblance to viking raids than anything else. In other words, the
> Palestinians are using Crusader tactics.
>
> Do you really think we’ll fall for that?
From [email protected] Tue Mar 6 16:02:47 EST 2001
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Jack White wrote:
> In article <040320011608327150%[email protected]>, Albert Reingewirtz
> says…
> >
> >In article <[email protected]>, Matt
> Giwer
> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> ehad haam wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I wonder
> if it was done before or after they started killing Jews
> >> > in what now a PA
> official admitted was a staged violent uprising .
> >>
> >> When was the
> lie about it being created? How long did it take for the
> >> lie to become gospel
> truth?
> >>
> >> Israel, the Land of Red Queens.
> >>
> >> > If you Arabs
> don’t want to suffer like always claim you are than
> >> > stop inciting and
> starting the regular killings and this is world
> >> > wide not only in Israel.
> >>
> >> The West Bank, Gaza and Jerusalem are not part of Israel. Get out while
> >> you still have a chance.
> >
> >Get out of Florida white trash it belongs to the Seminol Indians.
>
> Get out of Palestine you Zionazi, it belongs to the Native Palestinians.
> BTW, I’d be glad to sell my house to Native Americans and move if Native Americans
said that my house was on their land. Can you make the same claim about selling your house
to Palestinians since it’s their land?
No, he can’t. Albert lives in California.
RLA
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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 3:23 AM
Subject: [FreePalestine] Text of Union Resolution in support of
Palestine and divestment
Everyone:
The UC Berkeley unit of AGSE/UAW (Association of Graduate Student
Employees/United Auto Workers) local 2865 passed the following
resolution
tonight.
I think that we should try to get similar resolutions passed in other
unions
(both at the University of California and at workplaces across the
country).
xxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxx
UC Berkeley — Students for Justice in Palestine and the International
Socialist Organization
____________________________________________________________________
UC Divestment Resolution
Whereas during the last several months, we have witnessed an escalation
of
Israeli military aggression against the Palestinian people, with a
disproportionate number of Palestinian casualties, and illegal Israeli
policies towards Palestinians including: the ongoing occupation and
colonization of Palestinian territory; the denial of the rights of the
over
4 million Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and properties
in
Palestine; land confiscations and home demolitions; mass arrests and
executions without due process; the use of lethal military force
against a
civilian population; curfews and village closures as collective
punishment;
and a systematic bias against non-Jews in Israeli law and official
practice,
and
Whereas the state of Israel possesses the most advanced, well-funded,
and
technologically sophisticated military in the Middle East, and
Whereas Israel refuses to acknowledge its displacement of Palestinian
people
and the ongoing military occupation of Palestine, as well as its
violation
of UN Resolutions 181, 194, and 141 and the Fourth Geneva Convention,
and
Whereas the state of Israel has impoverished an entire nation of people
through its control over access to meaningful jobs, travel, water,
electricity, and political rights, and
Whereas the University of California invests more than 6.2 billion
dollars
in companies that do business in Israel, including General Electric and
Raytheon, which are military contractors for the state of Israel, and
Whereas as students at the University of California, academic student
employees recognize that the investment strategies of the university
should
not aid in the exploitation, displacement, and victimization of the
Palestinian people,
BE IT RESOLVED that the Berkeley unit of AGSE/UAW local 2865 lends its
support to the Palestinian people and calls on the UC Regents to end
its
financial ties to Israel by divesting from companies with subsidiaries
in
Israel and/or substantial financial commitments (over 5 million
dollars) to
the Israeli economy.
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Kim Bebbington wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:50:52 -0600, Roger Alexander
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >NEW YORK, Feb 22 (Reuters) – The World Jewish Congress called on
> >Thursday for Lebanon to block what the group said was an anti-Semitic
> >Holocaust meeting funded by Iran that will be held in Beirut next month.
> >
> >Lord Greville Janner, the WJC vice president, wrote to Swedish Prime
> >Minister Goran Persson on Feb. 21, asking him to “use your good offices
> >to call on the Lebanese government not to permit this polemic,
> >anti-Semitic and hate-inspired conference to be held in their capital.”
> >
> >Elan Steinberg, the WJC executive director who gave Janner’s letter
> >to Reuters, said the Jewish advocacy group appealed to Persson because
> >his country currently holds the European Union’s rotating presidency.
> >
> >He said Stockholm also hosted a conference last year on Holocaust
> >education called “Combating Intolerance” that was attended by 40
> >nations.
> >
> >Marc Weber, director of the Newport Beach, California-based Institute
> >for Historical Review, said his group was helping the Swiss organization
> >
> >Verite et Justice put on the conference, which is called “Revisionism
> >and Zionism.”
> >
> >”People in Lebanon should have the same right to attend and host a
> >conference, the same as other people have in the United States,” Weber
> >said.
> >
> >According to Weber, the Verite et Justice director Jurgen Graf was
> >sentenced by a Swiss court in July 1998 for what Weber called “Holocaust
> >
> >denial.” Graf now lives in Tehran as the guest of scholars, according to
> >
> >Weber.
> >
> >He said said he did not know whether Iran was paying for the Beirut
> >conference.
> >
> >Weber said his group did not deny the Holocaust occurred, but he said it
> >
> >published many works that were skeptical of what he called “the hype,
> >hyperbole, misreporting and distortion” about the Holocaust.
> >
> >((Joan Gralla, U.S. Municipal Desk, +1 212 859 1654,
> >[email protected]))
> >
> >Thursday, 22 February 2001 20:10:46
> >ENDS [nN22293329]
> >
> >————————————————–
> >
> >Zionists
> ???
> “There enters here a certain confusion between Zionists and Jews. I
> am pretty precise in my wording. When I mean Zionists, I say
> Zionists.”
> From: Roger Alexander <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 18:02:39 -0600
>
> >want freedom of speech for themselves, and want to deny it to
> >others.
> >RLA
>
> Says Roger Alexander, who boasts of suing an individual for his usenet
> posts…..
Pretty hard to understand what is meant by this diehard Zionist poster.
But assuming that he means that the World Jewish Congress is not
Zionist, he is wrong. It is. Or Zionist sympathizing.
Get real.
RLA
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Maybe so, particularly if you are Canadian, but it might be news to
some.
I had heard it, but this was pretty clear.
RLA
Blair Sheridan wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:47:27 -0600, Roger Alexander
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Subject: Barbara Amiel & Daily Telegraph should be exposed
> >
> >
> >I have been told that Amiel is the wife of the Daily
> >Telegraph publisher (or was it the editor – not sure).
> >
> And just who didn’t know this before? It’s hardly news.
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Omri Schwarz wrote:
> Roger Alexander <[email protected]> writes:
>
> >
> > Zionists want freedom of speech for themselves, and want to deny it to
> > others.
>
> No, what we really want is for Lebanon
> to host conferences by the Flat Earth Society,
> the Cold Fusion Coalition, and other
> similarly reputable organizations as well.
>
> —
> Omri Schwarz —
>
Inane. Since you cannot address the reality of the terrible oppression
of Palestinians by Israeli Jews, you piddle around with one liners.
Only question is why.
Maybe it is because you are an Israeli Jew.
RLA
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