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Alb 0694, Bouthillier Arthur

> Bullshit. I have no doubt that there are, for example, a few cat owners
> and Star Trek fans who are nazis, but that doesn’t mean it would be
> appropriate for either you or LeBouthillier to post your crap to
> rec.pets.cats or to rec.arts.startrek.

Stop with your grandstanding garbage. Some skinheads are White Power.
That doesn’t mean that they are Skinheads divorced from White Power,
that means that which defines them as skinheads is White Power
Skinheadism.

Using your argument, then it is inappropriate to talk about Ska music
since that is only a pasttime in which some skinheads engage. Using
your argument, noone can talk about Ben Shermans or Doc Martins since
only some skinheads wear such things.

Nonsense, for some skinheads, being a skinhead is an expression of White
Power. That’s why all your nim-rod race-mixing friends come here to
argue because they think ONLY of White Power Skinheads when they hear
“skinhead.”

If you don’t like the association of White Power skinheads that comes
with being a skinhead, too bad; call yourself a mod.

> What I am advocating is common-sense netiquette and a bit of consideration
> for other net users. It has been made clear to you that the purpose of this
> group is *not* the discussion of Nazi ideology.

You wouldn’t know Nazi ideology from race-mixing ideology if either came up
and gave you a good boot in the head. Since you’re asking for some
netiquette, show some yourself. This group is not for you to try to take
over for race-mixing.

> If you wish to discuss such group is *not* the discussion of Nazi
> ideology. If you wish to discuss such matters, find a more appropriate
> group.

It is about the discussing of skinhead culture. Some skinhead culture is
Nazi, not Ska-based Race-mixing. That you don’t approve of it has little
bearing on the issue.

> By hijacking the group for your own ends you are making it impossible
> for sensible discussion to take place and are thus restricting the
> freedom of speech of the legitimate users of the group.

Nonsense, you’re the one who is trying to hijack this group by deciding
like some kind of god what is or isn’t skinhead. Bugger off!

> However, most college authorities are rather more sensitive to abuses
> of their systems, and hopefully they will discourage LeBouthillier
> from any further such abuses.

Do you think I hadn’t considered that? I’m a big boy, ready to face off
on what is important to me.

> Posting offensive material to the net is something which cannot and
> should not be regulated.

Yeah? Well *I* find your anti-White viewpoint offensive.

> Preventing legitimate users of a newsgroup from discussing the issues
> which they wish to discuss is a different matter altogether.

I’m discussing exactly what I want to discuss. What’s your point.

> If you are in any doubt as to the feelings of the majority of the
> readers of this group,…

Morality is not a democratic sport.

> I refer you to article <[email protected]>, ‘A Sad
> Goodbye (alt.”skinheads”)’, which I believe sums them up succinctly.

If race-mixing fools like yourself wouldn’t keep hounding us, there
wouldn’t be this constant debate; as such, blame your own side.

> In that case I won’t bore you. I will only ask that you restrict your
> posting to groups relevant to the subject matter in accordance with
> basic netiquette. To this end, followups are redirected to
> talk.politics.misc.

This ain’t alt.race-mixing.skinheads, it is alt.skinheads. Some skinhead
culture is White Power; I will discuss White Power as I see fitting to do.

– – – – – – – – – – – – – –
Arthur LeBouthillier

By the deeds of heroes
and the blood of martyrs,
all good comes to be.

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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Procter v. LeBouthillier: A case of censorship
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In article <199[email protected]>, [email protected]
(Steve Procter) writes:

> In that case, perhaps you need a new group – alt.skinheads.white-power?

Perhaps YOU need a new newsgroup: alt.whining

> You have identified two quite different strands of skinhead culture. My
> point is that it is impractical for these two mutually exclusive viewpoints
> to occupy the same newsgroup, as illustrated by this flamewar (initiated
> by your FAQ) which makes discussion of any other issue practically
> impossible.

Then show some restraint and shut up.

> |> I’m discussing exactly what I want to discuss. What’s your point.
>
> My point is that legitimate users of this group, for example Skinflower
> and the writer of the “A Sad Goodbye” article, find it impossible to
> use this group for its intended purpose due to the flamewars precipitated
> by your inflammatory articles.

You’ve already conceded that one brand of skinhead culture is racist
hence its discussion relevant.

> Equally, if you didn’t insist on posting your rubbish to the group
> there wouldn’t be this debate.

It is because of your rubbish and the rubbish from people like you that
there are debates.

>|> Skinheads come in many varieties; racist, anti-racist, and non-racist.
>
> As I have said before, so do cat owners and Star Trek fans. So what’s
> your point?

My point is that one brand of skinhead culture is distinctly racial. Racism
is not a side issue, it is the defining characteristic and central focus
of the culture.

> I don’t appreciate other people’s opinions being posted to inappropriate
> newsgroups.

Then get off the newsgroup; who voted you net police?

> I think the dissemination of information on groups who seek to eliminate
> African-American culture is *highly* relevant to an African-American
> culture group, don’t you?

Isn’t this typical of your bigotry, hatred and stereotyping? I have never
said that I wanted to eliminate African-American culture. It is you that
wants to eliminate White-American culture; the proof of that is your acts
to silence and misrepresent our cause.

I don’t want want to eliminate African-American culture; in fact, I want
it promoted (by African-Americans). However, I also want European-American
culture preserved and promoted; to that end, I promote White Power.

> I am afraid of innocent Black, Asian, Jewish and lesbian and gay people
> being attacked as a result of this propaganda.

I’m afraid of innocent white people being attacked by your evil propaganda.

> And *this* nation has a law against incitement to racial hatred.

Then stop inciting hatred against whites.

> Since the distribution of Arthur’s post was worldwide, including the
> UK, I would think he has probably violated this law. But that’s not
> the point.

Then send the bobbies over to pick me up. You silly twit, I’m not subject
to those laws.

> The quoted statement is not my opinion, it is a *fact*.
> _The_purpose_of_this_group_is_not_the_discussion_of_Nazi_ideology_.

It is not a statement of fact; the purpose of this group is the discussion
of skinhead culture, which is what I’m doing.

> Try telling that to the people that have recently deserted the group,
> specifically because of the disruption caused by Arthur and his cronies.

They left because YOUR “cronies” can’t stop attacking us and cause so much
havoc that there is no option for discussion other than politics.

Arthur LeBouthillier

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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Folk The System
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Los Angeles’ own White Power folk musician Eric Owens has just released
his new CD on Phoenix Records. _Folk_The_System_, Blends White Power
Oi!-style singing with traditional Irish folk music, creating a fun upbeat
sound. Using such instruments as bagpipes, penny whistles and the bones,
blended with other acoustical instruments, he creates a musical environment
guaranteed to bring out toe-tapping, and whistling from you.

The CD is available for $19.95 at:

PHOENIX RECORDS
P.O. Box 898
Walnut CA 91788
USA

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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Hebrew Reperations from Blacks
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In article <2sod6[email protected]>, [email protected] (James White) writes:

How about Native Americans? If any group deserves reparations
then Native Americans certainly do. So the whites pay off
blacks for slavery and blacks pay off Hebrews. Then whites
give Native Americans their land back and go back to Eurpoe.
Isn’t this a little absurd. Where does it stop? Why did we
pay off Japanese Americans who were interned during WWII?
Since the Japanese are now all rich they should pay us off for
Pearl Harbor,etc. etc. etc. This subject is stupid.

What about us Celts? About 1500 – 2000 years ago the Romans enslaved
us. Why…and the Slavic people… their very name is reminiscent of
Roman slavery! Can we get reparations from the Italians?

Arthur

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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Real Skinheads Ain’t nazis.
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In article <2sqhm5$a[email protected]>, [email protected] (GREG HJELSTROM)
writes:

> If someone posts an article which (1)advocates the taking of a part of my
> country for a select group of people

You’re the one who is advocating the destruction of my country for the
benefit of a select group of people: non-whites. So now you know how I
feel.

> (2) claims that some human beings are inherently worth more than others
> due to their appearance,

You’re the one who claims that some human beings are inherently worth more
because of what they believe. I think that an individual’s worth is
determined by what he does for my nation.

> (3) claims that there were no death camps in WWII, etc, etc, you are
> just begging for a debate.

I don’t give rat’s tail whether there were camps or not. What does that
have to do with the future of whites? Nothing. Zip. Zero. Zilch. The
only thing about that issue that has any bearing is the fact that people
like you start whining about nazis and WW2 whenever someone says they
are proud of the White race.

Arthur LeBouthillier
The White race must survive.
Separation is survival.

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Subject: Re: Real Skinheads Ain’t nazis.
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In article <2srq2o$g[email protected]>, [email protected] (GREG HJELSTROM)
writes:

> What country am I advocating the destruction of????

That country was America, a country created to represent White people
and our interests. Now, it is obvious that it is hostile to our interests.

> And, if this country of yours exists, I am not excluding whites from
> benefiting from it. I am not “anti-white”, I’m pro-human.

Well, that’s the problem. By welcoming people who have no place in
it, you are destroying it.

> btw, I think you meant race when you said nation, there are plenty of hard
> working, tax-paying “non-whites” who benefit America. (or maybe America is
> not your nation?)

I used the word nation purposely. A nation is not a country; it is not a
government. Nation refers to a people and their identity, country refers to
the territory in which they live and the government is the political
institution which rules that people in that territory.

“America” (whatever that is) is not my nation. It has become obvious that
what it has become is inimical to all that I think is important. My
allegience is not to a territory, not to a government, but to my people.
My people are defined by their race of which such things as skin color
are indicators.

> Well, I don’t give a rat’s tail whether you care about 6 million + people
> being exterminated. But I’ll whine all I want if you try and erase history.

History isn’t always what the government says it is. However, that’s not
a debate that I want to involve myself in since that particular issue
has no bearing on my issues.

> Be proud of something you actually were a part of, none of us picked our
> parents…

That’s real nice, but you didn’t decide what species you were born into
either right, so being “human” shouldn’t mean anything. I am proud of
the deeds that I do to protect that which I think is most important: my
race.

> btw, I apologize for misspelling your name, you probably couldn’t spell
> mine without checking either.

Apology accepted.

Arthur LeBouthillier
People and Homeland

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Subject: FAQ: WHITE POWER
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FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS: WHITE POWER

Last Update: 2 June 1994

RECENT UPDATES
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– Added Book: Armed and Dangerous by James Coates
– Added Book: Skinheads shaved for battle
– Added Bookdealer: NS Publications
– Added Newspaper: The Jubilee
– New Music service: Nordic Wolfpack!
– Added Category: Books, Articles of Interest to those with a White identity
– Added Article: Race Unconsciousness and the White Male
– Added Article: America’s Changing Colors
– Added Article: The Seeds of Racial Explosion
– Added Article: The Ordeal of Immigration in Wausau
– Added Article: The American Family Transformed
– Added Article: Can American Democracy Survive?
– Added Book: Ethnic Identity: The transformation of White America
– Added Book: Tribes
– Added Martyr: Kathy Ainsworth
– Corrected numerous typographic errors

WHITE POWER
———–

What is White Power?

White Power is an empowering philosophy of White racial nationalism and
ethnicity. It refers to a diverse range of philosophies from leftist
National Socialism, to White Pride, to rightist White Supremacy. Perhaps
the simplest imperative about what White Power stands for exists in
the “14 words” coined by former Bruder Schweigen member, David Lane:

We must secure the existence of our people
and a future for White children.

Where does the term White Power come from?

Although it is possibly a response to black nationalist Stokely
Carmichael’s book _Black_Power_, the phrase “White Power” was a
popular term coined by participants at a George Lincoln Rockwell
rally in Marquedt Park, Illinois in 1967. Spontaneously the
attendants started rallying behind the call for White Power. It
has been a popular phrase since then and was the title of George
Lincoln Rockwell’s book _White_Power_.

What is an Aryan?

Aryan is a term that many ancient Indo-European peoples called
themselves. It means “good,” “best,” or “noble.” The ancient
Hindus called themselves Aryans and derivitives of this term
are evident in the country-names of Erin (Ireland) and Iran (Aryan).
Today, some people of the European branch of Indo-Europeans call
themselves that as a unique indicator of who they are and what their
racial ideals are.

What is ZOG?

ZOG (for Zionist Occupation Government ) is a euphemism for those
governments which purport to represent white people while actually
subscribing to an anti-white agenda. These governments often put
“Israel First,” while seconding the interests and desires of racial
and nationalist whites for the interests of multi-racial societies and
world government.

Aren’t all White Power advocates White supremacists?

No. Supremacy refers to an alleged right to rule over other races.
Although some White Power people are White Supremacists, many are
not. Those who are not supremacists are actually White nationalists or
separatists and advocate for the formation of a White homeland in
a manner which does not deny the human rights of non-whites.

What differences are there in White Power groups?

There are many different viewpoints collected under the term White Power.
A few of the philosophical viewpoints are:

Supremacists – Supremacist arguments state that the White race is
inherently superior and therefore is justified in ruling over
other peoples. They often state that Whites assuming power over
all of the earth’s inhabitants is doing them a favor since Whites
are the only people superior enough to make good judgements.

National Socialists – based on Adolf Hitler’s doctrine as outlined
in his book Mein Kampf, the adherents of this viewpoint often
don’t see this as a “right-wing” cause but rather as a racially
progressive left-wing movement. National Socialism is founded
on several doctrines: nationalism, the long-view of history and
racism. It adheres to the viewpoint of The Leader Principle
whereby a people are best led by strong leaders rather than by
their inherent weaknesses which democracy brings out.

Christian Identity – this religious doctrine believes that Whites
are the true Israelites described in the bible. It adheres to a
doctrine of two-creations in Genesis whereby God created all of
the other animals and races and then created the Adamic (White)
race. They cite the fact that Adam means “able to show blood in
the face” which would refer uniquely to the White race. They also
believe that Jesus’s message has become corrupted because he did
not come for all peoples, but as said in Matthew 15:24 “I am not
sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

White Nationalists – this refers to a number of ideological viewpoints
which view the White race as an ethnic nation which must have its
own homeland in order to survive. Its adherents believe that the
only state which can legitimately represent the White race is one
which is purposely organized to represent it.

Separatists – this catch-all identifier applies to many people who
are not ideological at all. They merely recognize that we Whites
are a different people and that we must survive as a people. They
advocate the separation of the races, usually in different
homelands for the different races. Some separatists advocate
“The Northwest Imperative” which calls for the formation of a
White homeland in the Pacific Northwest.

Often, many of these viewpoints are expressed within a single group.
The members of these groups bring differing ideas about what the goals
of White Power should be, what programs can best attain its ideals,
what a good White society is and how a White nation-state should be
organized. But, despite these differences they are all agreed on one
point: The White race must survive.

What is a race?

The word race derives from the Spanish word raza which means “line.”
It refers to genetic lineage. A race is a lineal ethnic group which
because of its genetic heritage, exhibits unique phenotypic features
or patterns. However, despite these genetic features, race also
refers to an ethnicity and an ethnic identity that is based on these
features. As racists use the term, it is not equivalent to the
biological word “race” which is merely a sub-breeding group of a
species. Although as racists use the term a race is a sub-breeding
group of the human species, it also refers to a set of group ideals
and norms consistent with the maintenance of that ethnic group.

What is racism?

Racism is the promotion of a race and its interests. It refers to a
desire to maintain a unique ethnic identity closely bound to the
physical characteristics that define that group. It also refers to
a whole body of social norms which are consistent with maintaining
that group and promoting a society which is consistent with racial
ideals.

What is race-mixing?

Race-mixing is the mixing of races, also known as miscegenation.
The term “race-mixer” refers to those who advocate mixed-race
societies as an ideal and those who engage in sexual relations with
those of other races. Race-mixing is highly frowned upon by racists
and race-mixers are often severely admonished.

What is a Hammerskin?

In Pink Floyd’s _The_Wall_ movie, there is a video segment sung to
the tune “Up against the Wall,” where Pink takes on the visage of
a powerful leader. During this sequence, hundreds of skinheads march
through the street and chase the “Pakis” (Pakistanis) out of England.
Although the movie is largely opposed to that viewpoint, young skinheads
were emboldened by the image of strength and came to call themselves
Hammerskins. As these groups spread throughout the U.S. and Canada,
they took on regional prefixes like: Western Hammerskins, Northern
Hammerskins, Confederate Hammerskins and other names.

Why do you hate?
Why do you hate Jews?
Why do you hate Blacks?
Why do you hate everybody?

White Power advocates love their race. Because of that, they are
strongly opposed to any attempts to harm it by means of loss of
territory, loss of economic or political self-determination, loss
of cultural identity, disenfranchisement or race mixing. In order to
preserve their race and its interests, they are often willing to engage
in hostile acts against perceived threats to it.

Why don’t you get a life?

White Power advocates do have lives which are based on different
principles and ideals from those of race-mixers.

CONTEMPORARY BOOKS ON WHITE POWER
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The following are somewhat “objective” in their appraisal of White Power
advocates:

Blood In the Face by James Ridgeway

The New Reich: Violent Extremism in unified Germany and beyond
by Michael Schmidt

Skinheads shaved for battle: a cultural history of American Skinheads
by Jack B. Moore

The Silent Brotherhood: Inside America’s Racist Underground
by Kevin Flynn and Gary Gerhardt

Is God a racist?: the right wing in Canada
by Stanley R. Barrett

The following are heavily biased against White Power and often misrepresent it:

Armed and Dangerous: The rise of the survivalist right
by James Coates

Brotherhood of Murder
by Thomas Martineze with John Guinther

Free to Hate: The rise of the right in post-communist Eastern Europe
by Paul Hockenos

Skinhead Streetgangs
by Loren Christensen. Paladin Books ISBN 0-87364-756-4

Skinheads shaved for battle: a cultural history of American skinheads
by Jack B. Moore

Any ADL publication

MAGAZINE ARTICLES ABOUT WHITE POWER AND WHITE POWER SKINHEADS
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“Mainstream” Hatred by Mira L. Boland, ADL in The Police Chief
magazine, June 1992 (other articles can be found in that issue
and in other issues).

Hitler’s Offspring by Martin A. Lee in The Progressive, March 1993

Hatred Rising: The Sound of Jackboots in Europe and Russia
by Derek Ingram in World Press Review February 1994

Inside South London’s Nazi Headquarters
in New Statesman and Society (British magazine) January 1993

Long Day’s Journey Into White by Kathy Dobie,
in The Village Voice April 28, 1992

BOOKS AND ARTICLES OF INTEREST TO THOSE WITH A WHITE IDENTITY
(thought-provoking books and articles with supportive arguments)
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Articles:
America’s Changing Colors
in Time magazine, 9 April 1990

Can American Democracy Survive? by Bruce D. Porter
in Commentary November 1993

Race Unconsciousness and the White Male by Frederick R. Lynch
in Society magazine Jan/Feb 1992

Seeds of Racial Explosion by Timur Kuran
in Society magazine October 1993

The Ordeal of Immigration in Wausau by Roy Beck
in The Atlantic Monthly, April 1994

The American Family Transformed by David A. Hamburg
in Society magazine Jan/Feb 1993

Books:
Ethnic Identity: The Transformation of White America
by Richard D. Alba

Tribes: How Race, Religion and Identity Determine Success in the
New Global Economy by Joel Kotkin

WHITE POWER BOOKDEALERS
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Aryan Free Press Books, P.O. Box 6853 Champaign Illinois 61826

National Vanguard Books, P.O. Box 330 Hillsboro WV 24946

NS Publications, Box 27486 Milwaukee WI 53227

— “Those who do not read have no advantage over those who cannot read.” —

WHITE POWER NEWSLETTERS, NEWSPAPERS AND MAGAZINES
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Aryan Free Press Books P.O. Box 6853 Champaign Illinois 61826

Aryan Nations/Church of Jesus Christ Christian
P.O. Box 362 Hayden, Idaho 83835

The Balance
C/O Cause
1101 Post Oak Blvd. Suite 9497
Houston, TX 77056

Instauration
Howard Allen Enterprises, Inc.
Box 76
Cape Canaveral, Florida 32920
$20/year students $30/year regular

The Jubilee [ A wonderful Christian Identity newspaper ]
P.O. Box 310
Midpines, CA 95345

National Vanguard
by National Alliance P.O. Box 330 Hillsboro WV 24946

New Order
by NSDAP-AO P.O. Box 6414 Lincoln, Nebraska 68506

NS Kindred P.O. Box 256 N.S.J. Ca 95960

Plexus: A National Socialist Theoretical Journal
by National Worker’s League P.O. Box 642376 Omaha Ne 68164-8376

Stormfront: Forecast for Tomorrow
P.O. Box 6637
West Palm Beach, FL 33405

WAR P.O. Box 65 Fallbrook Ca. 92088

The War Eagle P.O. Box 6881 Champaign Illinois 61826

MUSIC, T-SHIRTS, SKINZINES
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For North American White Power music, contact:

Krowbar Records
P.O. Box 40383
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
70835-0383, USA

Nordic Wolfpack!
P.O. Box 8
13143 Monk, Piereefonds
Montreal, Quebec
H8Z 1T4 Canada

Resistance Records
P.O. Box 24700
Detroit, Michigan
48224, U.S.A.

Totenkopf Services
1040 S. Mount Vernon
Suite 123
Colton, CA
92324, USA

For all Skrewdriver T-Shirts or CD’s, contact:

Renewal of Identity (R.I.D.)
P.O. Box 249
Derby DE21 9EG
England

For the latest in White Power music, read:

Blood & Honour
B.M. Box 5608
London, WC1 3XX
England

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Blood & Honor
P.O. Box 1234
Long Beach, CA
90801 USA

$3.00/issue US and Canada
$4.00/issue International
$18.00/6 issues US and Canada
$24.00/6 issues International

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Rampage: A Skinhead Voice
P.O. Box 19
Coalville
Leicester LE67 1DS
England

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SledgeHammer: The Voice of the White Nations,
by the Northern Hammer Skins
PO Box 428
Gatineau Quebec, J8P 7A1 Canada

$25.00/yr. (12 issues) in Canada
$30.00/yr. U.S.
$35.00/yr. Overseas
All rates are in Canadian funds

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Resistance
The Music Magazine of the True Alternative
P.O. Box 24700
Detroit, Michigan 48224 USA

$12.00/yr (4 issues)

Resistance is one of the best quality White Power
music magazines around.

HOTLINES ( Telephone numbers to hear a White Power message )
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WAR (White Aryan Resistance)
Fallbrook, California, USA
(619) 723-8996

Equal Rights for Whites
Canada
(416) 699-4868

Euro-Canadian Action Line
Canada
(416) 631-3545

Info Line for Shows & Events
(416) 631-3927

POWS Soldiers captured while fighting for their racial nation
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David Tate W/155209 Frank Silva #09993-016
Missouri State Prison B2 Room 422
P.O. Box 900 P.O. Box PMB
Jefferson City, MO 65102 Atlanta, GA 30315

David Lane #12873-057 Bruce Pierce 04181-085
P.O. Box 1000 P.O. Box 1000
Leavenworth, KS 66048 Marion, IL 62959

Randy Evans 09882-016 Gary Yarbrough
P.O. Box 1000 #09883-016 US PEN.
Marion, IL 62959 A-206 P.O. Box 1000
Leavenworth, KS 66048

Yorie Von Kahl 04565-059 Richard Scutari
Box 1000, J-3 Unit #34840-080
Lewisburg, PA 17837 P.O. Box 1000
Marion, IL 62959

MARTYRS: Those who gave their lives for their race
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Kathy Ainsworth

Gordon Kahl
Died: 3 June 1983
Summary: A leader of the Posse Commitatus, Gordon Kahl was shot
and immolated by the FBI.

Robert Jay Mathews
Born: 16 January, 1949
Died: 8 December 1984
Summary: Founder of the Bruderschweigen (The Silent Brotherhood),
sometimes called The Order. Bob Mathews fought for his racial
nation until he was immolated by the FBI at a Whidbey Island
shootout.

Samual Weaver
Died: 21 August 1992
Summary: 14-year old Samual was shot in the back by Feds who were
trespassing on his father’s property.

Vicki Weaver
Died: 4 June 1983
Summary: Shot in the face by Fed sniper Lon Haruchi while holding
her baby.

We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children
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> Ok, artie you asked for it….

Bye bye, Shawn. Say hello to my kill file.

Love always, Artie.

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Do you listen to shortwave radio? If you do, you may want to try out SFA’s
show on W.H.R.I. on 7.315 or on W.I.N.B. 11.950. They are both broadcast at 8
pm Mountain time. You should especially tune in on Saturday night, the 11th
(Louis Beam is opening the event) and every night thereon through the 18th.
Scriptures for America will be broadcasting their camp meeting LIVE each night.

This is especially interesting since a United Nations shortwave station out
of Costa Rica has been slandering and vilifying Pastor Peters, his family and
his ministry for weeks. They have called his wife a whore-monger, himself the
“Pastor of hate” and have even gone so far as have some woman come on letting
people know of a group of people who happen to be getting together in the same
area of Montana during SFA’s camp to plot to “assisinate the president”.

Peter’s has been telling those who monitor his show from this U.N.
sponsored station to tune in Wednesday night during his camp broadcasts from
Montana and told them “If you think I am a ‘Preacher of Hate’ now, wait until
wednesday night…”

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Listen in for something interesting…

Arthur LeBouthillier

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Subject: Re: White Canada Awake!
Date: 8 Jun 94 21:21:29 PST
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In article , [email protected] (JOANNA I TIMARIU) writes:

> First of all, I’d like to note that I was glad to find someone who does
> not necessarely define the love of his own race as hate for the other
> races.

I’ve been here all along.

> Maybe the Inuit did not built heavy rock buildings and monuments of
> their own to “mark the terrain”, but they were still here.

On what basis, then, can you say it is theirs? Merely because they
were here? Iand my people are here now. Moreover, there were no Indians
when Europeans arrived. Indians is a name that Europeans gave to the
widely scattered (yes widely scattered) tribes that were here. Nor was
there a Canada then. Canada was a country (a government declaring dominion
over a territory for the benefit of its citizens) that was started by
Europeans.

> They were the ancestors, not the British immigrants. Besides this, the
> British WERE immigrants, were they not?

Hardly, immigration is a legal process of acquiring government sanction
to live in a country. There was no country when we Europeans first came
(until we set several of them up). Properly, the first Europeans migrated
here.

> There was no white race in here before. So how can you put down
> immigration?!

Ever heard of Leif Erikson and Vinland? Or how about Maddoc the Welsh?

Besides, it is easy to put down immigration when it doesn’t serve one’s
needs. We should have that kind of immigration that benefits the White
race while shunning that immigration which is harmful to the White
race’s necessities.

> Why utopian? Look around, take a trip on the subway, you’ll see a
> beautiful rainbow of people.

Of course, that’s a subjective opinion; I don’t find the racial porridge
a “rainbow.”

> Canada cherishes these differences.

Canada is an abstraction; abstractions don’t cherish things. Obviously
the fact that numerous Canadians do not “cherish” those differences
(as expressed on this board) proves that your attempt to paint all
Canadians as “cherishing” that “rainbow” is incorrect. Some Canadians
might cherish it while others do not.

> I’m not happy with that, I am even more utopian then what you call
> Utopia : I want to see countries melt. But that’s me.

Didn’t you say you were a Jewish lesbian? Yes, that’s you.

I don’t consider that to be “utopian” but nightmarish.

> I mean, if it was really a matter of survival then it woulkdn’t be a
> petty matter. But it is not. It’s a matter of who is on top.

For me, the issue is the survival of the White race. Being “on top” is
not my goal; I am perfectly willing to recognize rights of self-
determination for non-whites.

> And the whole battle is a tangle and a knot, because we’ll never know
> what blood flows through whose veins. The battle of the species is a lost
> cause from the beginning.

Of course, you are misrepresenting the Cause which you are attempting to
belittle. The issue is the continuance of a people, their culture and
way of life. Existence requires struggle. That you have to struggle does
not mean that you have lost, but that you are alive.

Arthur LeBouthillier
Existence is Struggle.

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In article <000313Z090[email protected]>, [email protected] (JayMar) writes:

> I am a BLack Nationalist and I believe that the Black people in
> America must have their own land where they can have their own
> culture without you Whites stealing it.

I’m a White nationalist and I believe that we Whites should have our
own homeland so that we can promote our race and culture.

> I don’t like White people at all and I consider most of you to be
> inferior.

You’re entitled to your beliefs.

> I am aware that some of you Whites would feel the same way about me,

Actually, we don’t know you. It is a matter of principle that we desire
a White homeland.

> and also want a homeland for yourselves here in North America. I would
> be interested in hearing what some of you White Nationalists have to say
> aobut where your homeland woudl be since in this we seem to have a mutual
> goal.

Among us, there is a movement called “The Northwest Imperative.” It states
that we racial Whites should form a homeland composed of the five states
of Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana and Wyoming. Obviously, we want to
maximize our territory.

Lastly, I agree that we have common goals: the separation of our people’s
from each other’s embrace. I don’t feel that we are enemies and that if
we show each other some mutual respect, then we can advance both of our
causes. Our enemies are not each other, but those who seek to destroy
both of our peoples by pitting us against each other.

Arthur LeBouthillier
People and Homeland

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> May be so, but I refered to them as Inuit Yes, maybe theye way that they
> conducted their lives seemed primitival and unworthy to be considered,
> but in my eyes (and finally in the eyes of a growing number of people!)
> these tribes were the polished version of a very high – quality civilization.

I think you’re unjustly glorifying them. They were at a stage of development
that we Europeans were about 5 thousand years ago.

> A perfect civilization, living in harmonious acordance with its surroudings,
> a civilization of a wonderful spirit.

Although I don’t know about the Inuit, but slavery and warfare were common
among the “indians.” Look, if you are so enamoured by their lifestyle, go
move to Brazil and live in the jungles with the Yanamamo (if they’ll take
you); stop trying to destroy my nation.

> Did you know that until very recently the studies about the Inuit were
> placed under the insultory name of Anthropology?! Revolting.

So? What’s your point? Anthropology is the study of man; are you saying
they aren’t men?

> That’s what you’ll do when you guys will have your own little country
> surrounded by the chicken wire that I was talking about previously.

Don’t pretend that you know what I’ll do or what the future will be like.

> No, what I actually said was that I was half-jewish and bisexual. Isn’t
> this funny though? You pick just what you want to rub in my face.

No, the fact that you have rejected the roles and values of my society are
very valid when you’re comparing it to other societies. It is indicative
that you probably have a specific agenda in your rhetoric. I am merely
very open in letting people know what my agenda is so that they know how
to properly interpret what I am saying: I am for the survival of the
White race ahead of all other interests.

> Everything you say it’s valid – to the point where it implies that other
> people have to be hurt. No nationalistic dream is worth having someone
> being hurt because of it.

I happen to think that my people’s interests stand above all other interests.
I don’t think you’re any different; you appear to want to benefit the
“Inuit” at the expense of White people. It is all very fine when the Inuit
want a homeland; people like you probably drool with delight at that Cause.
But when we Whites say that we want one, you misrepresent our Cause and
try to represent it as hate.

> No nationalistic dream deserves bloodshed.

The enemies of my nation make bloodshed necessary. However, no blood
need be shed if they will merely acquiesce on our demands for five
NorthWestern states.

Besides, your lovely “Indians” certainly felt blood should have been
shed to chase off the White man when we first came to this continent.
Are you going to tell them that they shouldn’t have not wanted us here?
Are you going to tell the Indians that no White blood need have been
shed to protect their race?

> And it seems to me that people supporting nationalism or this CAuse
> you’re talking about won’t stop to count the victims that might fall
> on the way to up there.

What about the victims of the left’s silly Causes? How many victims are
there of those? How many people destroyed by drugs? How many children
destroyed by broken families? How many unborn babies destroyed by the
abortions that they promote? Actually, significantly more deaths are
attributable to your “borderless” grey-raced utopia than in all of the
nationalist wars, ever. The problem isn’t that there are nations, but
that people like you don’t want to respect people’s wishes to live in
national groups.

Arthur LeBouthillier
The White race must survive.

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In article <[email protected]>, Sylvia Rowe writes:

Welcome Aryan comrade,

> There has been a lot of talk for too long about the desire for a white
> homeland, but I still see us stuck in the same place we were 10 years
> ago.

We must forego all of the losing strategies and tactics of the past and
develop new, but ultimately effective, solutions to our continuing problem.
The only criterium of value is success.

> When are we going to collectively realize that nothing is going
> to be handed to us on a silver platter?

Some of us already do realize that and we fight daily to promote our
people’s cause.

> We are in control of our destiny, but all anyone ever seems to want to
> do is to sit around on the weekends and get drunk.

I, and my associates, gave up drinking long ago. The future is what we
make of it.

> The time is coming for white men and women to wake up and start
> educating themselves.

I agree wholeheartedly. We must become successful professionals in the
Cause of our people.

> We need to start taking care of ourselves and our people, before it is
> too late! Look at the state this country is in now…do we really want
> that to be the legacy for our children?

I agree that we must chart our own course and pursue it. We have a
responsibility to prepare the way for future generations.

> So what, you might ask, is there to do? The answer is obvious! Start
> educating yourselves and learn to be self-sufficient. We will never be
> free from ZOG’s control until we can manage for ourselves.

Yes, how can we lead our people to freedom if we can’t lead ourselves?
If we don’t have the determination and discipline to direct ourselves,
how can we expect to direct our people?

Perhaps this is one of the effective projects that we could collectively
perform on this internet: the development of an educational program for
the benefit of new-comers and the uneducated. I think our Movement needs
a small series of booklets which are non-partisan and fairly representative
of our Movement, its goals and the important knowledge and skills necessary
to promote it. Any one of the members of our Movement should be able to
answer on demand:

1) What are the goals of your Movement?
2) What is your role in the Movement?
3) When will you know you have attained your goals?

Just as an experiment, ask one of your associates some of the questions
above and see what kind of response you get. I have asked “seasoned
veterans” these questions and have not been able to get good answers.
My own experience with educating people is for a group of about 5 people
(no more than that) to get together and seriously discuss the basic
cause and techniques of our Movement among each other in a serious manner
for about an hour every week or two. After a few weeks of doing this on the
weekends, everyone can clearly state the goals and other important aspects
of our Movement and they have a renewed vitality for fighting.

Our comrades should have knowledge of

1) The goals of the Movement and the good for which it fights
2) The means to attaining the ends of the Movement
3) Their role in attaining the goals.
4) Basic history of their people and their movement
5) Basic security procedures

They should also have developed several important skills:

1) Public speaking
2) Public debate
3) Analytical reasoning
4) security skills
5) Group activity skills

Once we have this basic information developed, we must drill and educate
our newcomers. This way, the can become effective fighters.

We must be visionary and effective in our task. We must not toss aside
ideas merely because they were developed by our enemies. We must clearly
define our goals, assess our current capabilities, improve on our
deficiencies, and complete the plans necessary to bring success.

However, we must also learn from our enemies’ criticisms of us since
they examine us much more harshly than we ourselves do. As one respondent
to your post said, we are divided and without a common goal. I disagree
with him. First, we have a common goal:

The White race must survive.

What we lack is a coherent and common plan of securing that goal. I think
it is fair to say that all in our Movement, once definitions are cleared
up, will agree on another goal:

We must have our own territory where we are self-governing.

Second, the only issues of debate in our Movement are not what the ends
are; they are obvious; the issue lies in the means to attain those
ends. To me, the means are somewhat obvious. They have been worked out
repeatedly in various other nationalist Movements around the world. I
do not only mean the National Socialist model, but the Irish Nationalist
model, various Black, Asian and Arabic nationalist models, or any other
successful nationalist or political movement.

We must work to be professionals at the task to which we have dedicated
our lives. We must know how to state and explain our ends, relate them
to other similar ends of similar movements around the world, comparatively
analyze how they have attained their ends and develop our own plan of
action. We must implement those plans and we must bring them to successful
completion. Conversely, we must understand our enemies, what means they
use against us, what means can be used to make them ineffective and, finally,
make them ineffective at stopping us.

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In article , [email protected] (JOANNA I TIMARIU) writes:

> Would you kindly explain to me why is someone that demands so violently
> their “separatist rights” not driven by prejudice and fear towards the
> party he wants to stay separated from?

Because they have different ideals. If anyone is driven by prejudice
and fear, it would appear to be you. You have continuously misrepresented
our cause either due to maliciousness or ignorance, and you appear to
fear what we represent. If anyone fears another, it is YOU who fears
White identity and White securing their common interests.

> Nobody is denying nobody the right to live as they want. To the point
> where this right of your spills in the domain where people will be hurt
> if it would be exercited.

Joanna if you truly understood what rights were, you wouldn’t say that.
Perhaps you should read some Rousseau or some other political science
work to understand what it is that you are talking about.

Governments violate rights in order to maintain their power. Here, in
America, they violate property and association rights in order to ensure
their power over the multi-racial empire they are creating. The very
process of extorting taxes and spending them in ways that are against my
interests is a violation of basic rights. However, people like you find
such violations acceptable in order to maintain “The Empire.” I don’t care
about “The Empire” and I will not permit the violation of my rights in
ways that are clearly against my legitimate interests.

Arthur LeBouthillier

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In article <1994J[email protected]>, [email protected] (sdb3) writes:

> I am an Aryan woman. I have blonde hair, blue eyes and pale skin. But there’s
> nothing I like better than a big black man to have sex with. They’re so much
> better hung than you scrawny little white shits.
>
> HOORAY FOR INTER-RACIAL BABY MAKING!!!!!!

May all your children be lovely and black then (at least then they will
never be
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In article <1994J[email protected]>, [email protected] (sdb3) writes:

When those of you who are concerned about the future of your country
and your race see them decaying into a third-world garbage pit, reserve
a special burning hatred in your heart for people like this:

> I am an Aryan woman. I have blonde hair, blue eyes and pale skin. But
> there’s nothing I like better than a big black man to have sex with.
> They’re so much better hung than you scrawny little white shits.

As you can see, this “fine” woman(?) has nothing but a seething hatred
for you and your kind. She(?) not only wants to destroy everything that
you stand for, she wants to belittle and destroy YOU with her(?) childish
attempts to demean you.

> HOORAY FOR INTER-RACIAL BABY MAKING!!!!!!

The destruction that you see is not an accident, it is not a natural
progression, but an outright and spiteful plan of hateful people like
this.

> You are all racist scum. I hope you rot in hell.

She(?) is the true race hater; she hates the White race. Our racism,
the attempt to secure our people’s welfare and destiny stands as a
heart-warming love next to the bone-chilling hatred of this creature.

> Live together with your fellow man/woman in peace.

There can never be peace between us and people like this; we cannot
make peace until we can be assured that our race and kin are free
from the clutch of hateful people like this. There can never be any
security for our people until we are free of these anti-Whites.

> Live and let live. Don’t be such cocks.

“Live and let live” this creep says as she(?) advocates the destruction
of all that we see as good. The so-called “love and peace” crowd are
themselves the biggest haters.
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>> I think you’re unjustly glorifying them. They were at a stage of
>> development that we Europeans were about 5 thousand years ago.
>
> You’re overestimating your race as usual.

No, I’m stating a fact. The indians didn’t even conceive of the wheel
as a tool. Most of them had no written languages. Their level of social
organization was nothing that we Whites didn’t have about 5 thousand
years ago (or that other peoples hadn’t developed even earlier).

> I believe that the Inuit have reached a final stage of civilization,
> one probable future that would not have had to deal with shitty things
> like pollution and capitalism and mustard gas.

“A final stage of civilization?” Did they go through their industrial
stage already? Had they gotten beyond the clan as a social organization?

I’m not going to explain the basics of anthropology to you (it’s not my
field). But suffice it to say that the Inuit never developed beyond the
hunter-gatherer stage. It is not that they had reached a “final stage
of civilization” but that they hadn’t developed out of the first one.

> But I understand that you wouldn’t have chosed this future if you were
> to chose any path of happenings. Very well.

You’re right, I wouldn’t choose that as an ideal. That they are/were
imperiled is proof of their weakness. Such a social system is incapable
of dealing with the more productive social organization of industrial
societies.

> Slavery? Not that I know of . .

You better start reading some more.

> Warfare was nothing , compared with what the rest of the world could
> come up with, beginning from the Crucides and ending with the World
> War ii.

Oh right. Like suffering from a gangreened/mangled arm resulting from
warfare with primitive weapons without benefit of anti-biotics and/or
painkillers was much nicer.

> You’re confusing a lifestyle close to the heart of the earth with a life
> in misery. Think again.

Believe me, I’m not. Besides, the earth has no heart. Stop writing in
metaphors and similes and then you’ll begin to understand the errors of
your thinking.

> But dear, I don’t give a damn on what roles and values did your society
> chose for me.

Like I said, you’re not a member (by your own admission). The values,
mores, norms and beliefs you advance and advocate have nothing to do
with promoting my society. In fact, what you are advocating is outright
hostile to it. Hence, your statements are largely meaningless and not
very welcome for promoting a society based on my European heritage and
bloodline.

> I am merely for “I’ll ignore you until you will attempt to hurt me
> whilst in your quest for self-glorification”.

Then ignore me; don’t be a hypocrite.

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> Dear scared little child;

I had to read your post twice before I realized you were talking to me.
Uhh….I don’t think so.

> But.. hatred is bad. Later on in the message you were rambling
> on about how *you’re* not the ones condoning hatred. Oh well..

I didn’t say that hatred is bad. It is a natural and human emotion
which is no less important than any other emotion. What is bad is
their goal. I was merely pointing that hatred is no less a motivator
for those who are opposed to White identity and a positive White society.

> People like you have way too much pride for your own good.

There are two problems with what you say:

1) That the issue is pride
2) Who the hell are you to decide when someone has “too much pride?”
Who died and made you the Pride King?

> Can you laugh at yourself once in a while?

I am quite satisfied with myself and don’t need your amateur
psychoanalysis to examine myself.

> I know I can.. Watch: I’m a scrawny white shit. Ha ha ha ha.

I agree you are. Ha ha ha.

> I don’t care. Having excessive pride is just stupid.. Especially
> when you don’t *deserve* it. What have you honestly done to deserve
> all this pride and this massive ego? Trying to preserve the white race?
> I really don’t think there’s much threat of it disappearing off the face
> of the earth any day soon.. And if you’re afraid of that (which you seem
> to be), then you’re a paranoid delusionary nutcase and you should probably
> seek some help.

Have you ever heard of the strawman technique? It results when someone
(such as yourself) posits a statement (i.e. that my problem is pride) and
then goes on to develop a whole lot of meaningless garbage from it (like
the rest of that paragraph).

> So just because she likes black men more than white men it’s an
> outright and spiteful plan? Err.. No, it’s her preference. I’m sure
> you have preferences as well. Hers just happen to be different. What
> the hell is wrong with that? We all have to be exactly the same as you?
> Oh, I forgot who I’m talking to..

Yours is a meaningless argument. If the issue is merely an expression of
preferences, why the fuck are you blathering on about stupid shit merely
because I was expressing my preferences?

No, the issue is ideals and the future and where we are going as a society
and the future of one particular people: Whites. She and you advocate
values, policies and visions which I flat out reject as being bad and
harmful to the White race.

> Oh, shut up. I’ve heard it a million times before and each time
> the adjectives just get better and better. “Our racism is a kinder,
> gentler kind of racism.” You sound like a fucking documentary.

No, you shut up you ignorant twit. You haven’t heard anything a million
times. My racism is good because racism is good; it is the promotion of
one’s race (which is an older way of saying ethnic nation).

> The thing is, you’re afraid and extremely selfish. You’d rather
> segregate yourself from all other races who may not be as well off as
> yours happen to be instead of sharing and trying to help them out.

You don’t know anything about me and already you are “diagnosing” me.
Although you would like to portray it as such, my racial idealism is not
a disease. It is a choice.

> Don’t give me this “I’m off to save the Earth” bullshit, because you’re
> just trying to put a little backbone into your otherwise spineless and
> selfish argument.

Fuck the earth. White First!

> The facts are that the White race has had a lot of advantages and still
> does today. This didn’t come from us being superior or being better.

Strawman. I never said that the issue was one of superiority. Moreover,
whatever advantages the White race has is because it gave it to itself;
I intend to follow in this tradition of securing the best future for future
generations of Whites.

> It came from us being greedy and stupid enough to try and keep everyone
> else down. So now we have these advantages which we should use to help
> the *human* race.

It is the human specie, not race. You’re clearly ridiculous; on the one
hand you try to imply that racism is bad, yet you use racist arguments
to promote the human specie. Get a clue.

Moreover, don’t put words in my mouth and tell me what I believe. You
act as if you can read my mind. You can’t. You should shut up and listen
to what I’m saying before you go off on your half-cocked anti-White tirade.

> We all deserve to be equals.

Exactly. We Whites deserve a homeland and self-rule just like everyone
else in the world is entitled to. Stop being a hypocrite.

> Heh. Why, what are they going to do? Make you feel bad about yourself?
> And what security do you need? You want a promise signed by all races
> saying, “we solemnly promise not to completely annihilate your race or
> perpetuate the stereotype that black people have bigger penises than
> you..”? I don’t get it.

No, you don’t get it. But that’s your problem. What are they going to do?
They’re going to invade our homeland and eat up resources that our
forebearers fought for. They are going to create a society that has no
interest in promoting my nation and its ideals. They are going to subvert
the purposes for which the Constitution was created. They are going to
change the culture to suit their needs. They’re going to take away our
political self-determination. All with the help of people like you.

What I want is a White nation-state. Whether anyone else in the world
likes that or not, I will fight for it. They don’t have to like it, they
don’t have to promise anything. They can call me all the bad names that
they want and perpetuate any stereotypes they want; I won’t care.

> You seem pretty unclear of the concepts of nature and life and the
> natural course of nature. Species’ of animals die out.

Oh! Now we’re going to hear some lame liberal argument based on Social
Darwinism. Fool, don’t argue stupidities for which you are ill-prepared.

> You’re a very scared person. I find it’s a common trait in White
> Supremacists.. You’re afraid someone’s going to destroy your race or
> what not.

There are times that I’m afraid; mostly when I look at the mess that
people like you seem to find so acceptable. When I look at the kind
of future that people like you are creating, yes, I am afraid. When
I realize the hostility that people who should be my own kinsmen express
towards the ideal of our people, first I’m afraid, then I’m angry.

> Also a common trait is excessive patriotism for your nationality or
> race. Which is, again, stupid. Why bother? Why care? If you’re
> concerned that you’re getting a raw deal because minorities are bringing
> your country down why don’t stop being such a selfish bastard and try and
> help the entire world and not just your pathetic little race?

So, like you said, why bother? why care? Why are you wasting your time
talking to me? If we win, we win, if they win, they win? Right? Stop
your silly little half-wit arguments.

Look, it’s real simple. I believe in a nation founded on race. Of course
anything that is good is a thing that must be protected and promoted.
That’s what I believe. My responsibility isn’t to the rest of the world
but to my people first.

> I must have missed the part in her message where she advocated
> the destruction of all you see as good. Feel free to quote it to me.

There was a lot that you missed in my post but that didn’t stop you
from fabricating what you wanted to see.

> I know writing this message was an utter waste of time, but I
> have no life and afterschool cartoons haven’t started yet. I also
> know that if any of you groovy White Supremacists actually respond
> to this you’re going to misquote me, take me out of context and such
> and such. You’re quite good at that, I’ve noticed.

As are you race-mixers.

> Whites aren’t in any danger regardless of what you’ve been told.

Contrary to what YOU’VE been told, the future is not rosy. If you would
like some statistics, I’ll provide them, assuming that you show a
reasonable amount of rationality; otherwise, I won’t waste my time.

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Subject: FAQ: WHITE POWER 2.6.94
Date: 14 Jun 94 13:29:37 PST
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