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Matt Giwer's Nizkor Censorship Lie

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From: Jamie McCarthy
Subject: Re: Giwer lies about Nizkor, again
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.censorship,alt.bonehead.matt-giwer,alt.usenet.kooks
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Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 13:10:50 -0400
From: (Jamie McCarthy)

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Jamie McCarthy wrote: [in a previous article]

Matt Giwer has consistently repeated the lie that Nizkor censors things. What things we censor, he has been pretty vague about.

Case in point is Giwer's catch-me-if-you-can reply:

There are at least a dozen people who know exactly where to find the two mentions of the two trials of Hoess if they were not censored from Nizkor. Stein has said he has done a content based search of the site and says he found no such mention. Therefore the material is censored.

Do I have to create another riddle to help you figure out how I know this? All of those dozen people know exactly what I claim is true every time you folks are unable to find those mentions.

Mr. Giwer, please post the names and email address of, say, three of these "at least a dozen people." I will contact them and have them explain to me where they think they saw these mentions of Hoess' trials. I think that no one knows the layout of Nizkor better than Ken McVay and myself; if I cannot clear this up, I will ask Mr. McVay and we will figure out what is going on.

My prediction of what is going on: Giwer is flat-out lying, as he has done many times in the past, and as he will continue to do in the future. Giwer is claiming that Nizkor "censors" by editing its own files (!) -- he hopes that he can make this charge stick, and thus obscure the fact that he is a net abuser himself. Giwer will fail to provide even a single name of someone who can confirm what he's saying. Giwer will fail to provide the URLs himself. Giwer will hope this whole matter is forgotten, but meanwhile, he will continue to claim that Nizkor and "holohuggers" are censors.

Posted; not emailed, because this net abuser Cc'd my root last time I dared to send him email.

 Jamie McCarthy     Co-Webmaster of
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