Path: hub.org!hub.org!hermes.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!News.Vancouver.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!NewsRead.Toronto.iSTAR.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <374EFAEB.E8F92CF6@istar.ca> From: Werner Knoll
Reply-To: email@example.com Organization: The Knoll's X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: bc.politics,bc.general,can.general Subject: Re: Ernst Zundel's hypocrisy References: <374E2345.1D1461A4@istar.ca> <firstname.lastname@example.org> <374EE7BC.E05FAD57@istar.ca> <email@example.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 136 Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 13:22:03 -0700 NNTP-Posting-Host: 126.96.36.199 X-Trace: NewsRead.Toronto.iSTAR.net 927922848 188.8.131.52 (Fri, 28 May 1999 16:20:48 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:20:48 EDT Xref: hub.org bc.politics:117674 bc.general:90671 can.general:149573 Kenneth McVay OBC wrote: > > In article <374EE7BC.E05FAD57@istar.ca>, Werner Knoll wrote: > >Kenneth McVay OBC wrote: > >> > >> >> Mr. Zundel is asking for these things because he is a hypocrite, Mr. > >> >> Knoll. Sorry to have failed to explain this in terms simple enough for > >> >> your mind to comprehend. > >> > > >> >So you say but you are not telling me and others the reason why. > >> > >> Mr. Knoll should perhaps ask Mr. Zundel why he is a hypocrite. > >> > >> (Perhaps he can explain it in German, so even Mr. Knoll will understand > >> his dupicity.) > > > >There is only one man here who knows how to use deception and that is > >you. The only thing I know about Zundel is what I read in newspapers. It > >stands to reason that your statements about Zundel are conveniently put > >out of context in order to leave a wrong impression. > > Perhaps you should look at Mr. Zundel's flyers, Mr. Knoll, and rethink > your contention. > > Then you can ask him why he is a hypocrite. I had a look at it last year and had the impression that you conned my. You are nothing put a phony. Can you put this on your Webside? *********************************************************** Subject: Authenticity of Holocaust book in doubt Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 18:48:12 -0600 From: Orest Slepokura To: firstname.lastname@example.org Award-winning holocaust book under fire George Jonas | The Calgary Herald | October 3, 1998 TORONTO - Swiss musician and instrument builder Binjamin Wilkomirski's 1995 book, Fragments: Memories of a Wartime Childhood, may not have set the world on fire, but it did make a genuine impact. After it appeared in English (in a translation by Carol Brown Janeway), the New York Times Book Review described it as an "extraordinary memoir" that "recalls the Holocaust with the powerful immediacy of innocence." Among other honors, Fragments made the American Library Association's 1997 list for Best Books for Young Adults. In the same year, the book won the Jewish Quarterly's £4,000 literary award for nonfiction (that's a prestigious British award that merely shortlisted Mordechai Richler's novel Barney's Version this year.) There was only one problem with the book Kirkus Review called a "masterpiece." It was a question raised by another Swiss writer, Daniel Ganzfried, in the Swiss weekly Weltwoche last month. Was this recollection of a child's experience in the Nazi camps of Majdanek and Auschwitz indeed a memoir as advertised, or was it a work of fiction? Under a photograph identifying a handsome youngster as "Binjamin Wilkomirski alias Bruno Doessekker in 1956," Weltwoche asked: "Is this a child from Riga or a youngster from Zurichberg?" Ganzfried offered his answer. "Binjamin Wilkomirski alias Bruno Doessekker knows Auschwitz and Majdanek only as a tourist," he concluded in his piece. According to Ganzfried's research (which Wilkomirski disputes), Wilkomirski wasn't a young Jewish boy from Riga, adopted by Swiss parents after he survived the Nazi death camps where his real parents had perished. He was adopted, all right--but after his illegitimate birth in Switzerland in 1941. The question may never be decided. For the time being, Wilkomirski's publishers stand by the book and Weltwoche stands by Ganzfried's investigation. The significance of all this is twofold. The first has to do with the potential aid and comfort a literary hoax of this type (if the book is a hoax) gives to Holocaust-deniers. This cannot be circumvented by elaborate sophistries, such as the topic raised in one Swiss panel discussion: "Is literature a different and 'better' form of memory?" A novel about death camps may be poignant and historically accurate, but it isn't memory. As Roger Boyes put it in the London Times--the only piece I've seen so far reporting on the controversy in English--"fake Holocaust testimony distorts the debate." The other matter of importance is Wilkomirski's claim that his childhood memories surfaced in his mind as a result of psychotherapy. This would bolster the idea that forgotten memories of childhood trauma can pop into a person's head and fishing for them has therapeutic as well as evidentiary value. True believers in the recovered memory syndrome have suffered many setbacks in the past few years. When Fragments first appeared, it was hailed by beleaguered supporters of the movement. Last year, Michele Landsberg wrote in the Toronto Star that "Wilkomirski's book is a rare testimony of the way children struggle to make sense of horror--and to validate their fragmented memories in the face of adult denial and silencing." Now Granzfried's research suggests that Wilkomirski's book may only be testimony to how people of vivid imagination can confuse their inventions with their memories. Media fashions change, of course. By now most people see that whatever the scientific validity of recovered memory, its uncritical and premature introduction into the criminal justice system has been wrong. It demonstrably resulted in innocent people being falsely accused and convicted. Mental flashbacks elicited under therapy, unsupported by other evidence, cannot possibly amount to proof beyond a reasonable doubt. When the recovered memory syndrome first came into vogue, the media jumped on the bandwagon and contributed to the hysterical atmosphere of a modern witch hunt. It was decidedly not the fourth (or fifth) estate's finest hour. If it recalled any memories, it was of the Irish poet W.B. Yeats, who once called journalists "the shallowest people on the ridge of the earth." But there's a self-correcting side to a free press. Though we often resemble flocking birds, emitting shrill cries and flapping our wings in unison, after a given trend has run its course, one journalist or another usually calms down, does a little research, and rectifies the tribe's mistakes. ********************************** Orest Slepokura email@example.com ********************************** Werner Knoll "Anti-Semitism can be spread by sneezing."* Werner Knoll * That what the producer of Schindlers List said Tuesday, May 25, 1999 on CNN. When classmates sneezed in front of him, it sounded like JewishzzzzzzZZZ.
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