Received: from clmx12.dial.voyager.net (clmx12.dial.voyager.net [18.104.22.168]) by vixa.voyager.net (8.8.0/CICNet) with SMTP id MAA18953; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 12:43:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199610081643.MAA18953@vixa.voyager.net> Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 12:44:16 -0400 From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Jamie McCarthy) To: email@example.com Subject: Re: Another myth bites the dust Newsgroups: alt.revisionism References: <firstname.lastname@example.org> (A copy of this message has also been posted to the following newsgroups: alt.revisionism) Someone unimportant wrote: > Origin: MERCOPUS - 0604 - Mensa-F > From: JAMES WILLIAMS > To: JOHN SCHAEFER > Date: 12/10/93 > Re: Holocaust Revisionists [deletia] > If > ANYBODY alleges that the Holocaust never happened I would like > to know who they are, what they said, where and when. Absent > such evidence, I am compelled to regard "Holocaust denial" as a > myth. I can name two people who allege that the Holocaust never happened, by their own respective definitions. Greg Raven is one (he's the head of the IHR) and Ernst Zuendel is another. They define the Holocaust very precisely, and they go down it point-by-point and deny each point. Allow me to repeat a posting I made about five weeks ago.
email@example.com wrote: > I don't deny there was a Holocaust, Nonsense. You define the Holocaust as the murder of six million Jews as a central act of state by the Nazis during the Second World War, many in gas chambers. You deny the figure of six million, you deny that there was a Nazi program, and you deny that there were any gas chambers. You deny precisely what you define. You deny the Holocaust. How do I know how you define the term "Holocaust"? You defined it for us, in <firstname.lastname@example.org>: For the purposes of this discussion, I am using a fairly generic definition of the word Holocaust, which is the murder of six million Jews as a central act of state by the Nazis during the Second World War, many in gas chambers. How do I know what you deny? You defined it for us, in <320D09E3.69F4@kaiwan.com>: Revisionists DO say that there was no German program to exterminate Europe's Jews, that numerous claims of mass killings in "gas chambers" are false, and that the estimate of six million Jewish wartime dead is an irresponsible exaggeration. Furthermore, you know all this. Even if you'd "forgotten" what your own beliefs were, Mr. Raven, you have been reminded many times in email. You have failed to address your self-contradiction even once. http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/r/raven.greg/deny-holocaust.01 Posted; emailed to Greg Raven again, so that he may have one more chance to explain his self-contradiction. -- Jamie McCarthy http://www.absence.prismatix.com/jamie/ email@example.com Co-Webmaster of http://www.nizkor.org/ I'm a Zuendel-Certified "Censorship Buster." Hate mail will be posted.
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