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Subject: Six Questions for Anton  & "Sharon" Huber (Month 44)
Summary: Anomalies in the articles posted by "A. Huber" are explored, to 
         demonstrate the frauds and deceits practiced by this "Noble Aryan 
         Warrior" and his comic sidekick, "Sandra"
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Archive/File: people/h/huber.a/huber-10q
First-published: 1996/03/21
Last-Modified: 1998/08/01

Mr. Huber and "Sandra,"

During the course of your journey through the
sewers of digital messaging, you have provided a number of
frauds, insults, deceits and outright lies, all aimed at
defaming Jewish people. 

Now that I have clearly and unequivocably called you blatant
liars, you can prove me wrong by answering the following
questions. In the event you suffer from memory failures, I
will be considerate enough to continue to republish these
questions from time to time so that you will not be denied the
fair and public opportunity to respond, and clear your, er, good name.

Perhaps Prodigy users will be kind enough to post this series
of questions to your favourite Prodigy discussion groups, so
that you will be certain to see them.

Question 1
---------------------

   On January 29, 1996, you made the following statement:
 
      "We have long known that the WIESENTHAL center for pagan 
      studies has doctored so-called holocaust pictures. Go to 
      the so-called holocaust museum in DC & they'll show you 
      thousands of smelly shoes of so-called victims. Makes you 
      wonder, though, how so-called victims had shoes & sneakers 
      made in China in 1955......." (Huber, Air Photos)

   Although you have been asked to provide proof that the
   Simon Wiesenthal Center has doctored Holocaust pictures,
   you have failed to do so. Not surprisingly, although you 
   were also asked to provide proof that the United
   States Holocaust Memorial Museum included shoes made in
   China in 1955 as evidence of the Holocaust, you have shown
   yourself either unwilling or unable to do so. 

   (I toured the USHMM on March 26, 1996, and inspected the
   display of shoes from Maidanek. Alas, I was unable to
   determine where these "Chinese shoes and sneakers" are.
   The Museum, however, provides a photograph of these
   shoes, so perhaps you will examine it and circle those
   shoes which came from China, so I can locate them.)

   Please demonstrate that you are not a fraud and a liar,
   and prove that your assertions are true, or admit, here
   and now, that you are a liar, and retract them.

Question 2
----------

   On February 1, 1996, you refered to the Holocaust as
   "alleged:"

      "No sooner does someone deny the alleged holocaust, 
      than you label them as dispassionate & disinterested." 
      (Huber, Gas Chambers, Feb. 1)

   In response to the following query:

      "Can those of you who deny the Holocaust explain 
      where the Jews of Eastern Europe went?"

   You replied:

      "They have been known to wander, hence the term 'Wandering 
      j*w'. Also the term from inbreeding , known as wandering eye."
      (Huber, 27th Question)

   One day later, you commented about "another holocaust,"
   which suggests that you do, in fact, believe the historical
   record, (Huber, Air Photos, Feb. 5) and you also speak
   of the Holocaust as historical reality in your exchanges
   on Prodigy (See huber.0295).

   You seem confused about the Holocaust, denying it on
   one day, and affirming it on the next. Please explain
   this seeming contradiction.

Question 3
----------

   In your UseNet articles, you never spell the word "Jew."
   Instead, you insert an asterisk where the 'e' belongs.

   In March 1996, you stated, "NEVER capitalize, never 
   spell j*w." In a February 1995 Prodigy article, however,
   we find you writing the following:

      "Fazel, I am still awaiting your offer to post the article   
      about the Jews killing 30,000 Germans in cold blood after   
      the Russian breach of the border." (huber.0295)

   As both spelling the full word and capitalizing the word
   is obviously your practice on Prodigy, but not on UseNet,
   it would be instructive if you would explain why you have
   deliberately misrepresented your practice.

Question 4
----------

   On March 7, 1996, you published an article attributed to
   James Brolin, of the "Cicero Gazette." You included the
   following claim:

      "Two dozen spies were named, from the sect'y to walter 
      LIPPMAN to alger HISS, klaus FUCHS, "MLAD", War Dept. 
      official william ULLMAN, intelligence official joseph JULIUS, 
      Treas Dept.'s harold GLASSER, the  Air Forces's george 
      SILVERMAN, and nathan SILVERMASTER of the Bd. of Economic 
      Warfare. 

      ALL BUT TWO ARE jewish. Even as Hitler ravaged Europe, even 
      as millions of Britains, Americans, Poles & French were dying 
      to subdue the holocaust, jews spying on America and were giving 
      up American secrets for Russian & German shekels, dooming their 
      brothers in the gas-chambers of Auschwitz to death."
      (Huber, "a jewish" "NIZKOR should" and others)

   To which, William Anderson replied:

      "Mr. Huber, above, lists nine people accussed of spying 
      for the Soviet Union, and claims that all but two of them 
      are Jewish.  The nine are:

      1) The secretary to Walter Lippmann.  Mr. Huber does not 
      name the secretary, because "Lippmann" sounds Jewish, but 
      the secretaries name, May Price, does not. 

      2) Alger Hiss.  Scion of one of Baltimore's oldest protestant 
      families.  Not a Jew by any stretch of the imagination.

      3) Klaus Fuchs.  Son of German Quakers.  Not a Jew.

      4) Mlad.  Mlad is a code name for a physicist who worked on 
      the Manhattan project and may have passed information to the 
      Soviets.  Huber does not tell you this physicist's name, 
      because "Mlad" sounds vaguely foreign and potentially Jewish, 
      and "Theodore Hall" does not. (Anderson, real
      revisionism)

   Anderson goes on to point out that you, Mr. Huber, lied
   when you made the claim "All but two are Jewish," and
   establishes this fact beyond all dispute. The question,
   therefore, is why?

   Why did you tell this lie, Mr. Huber?

Question Five
-------------

   On and about May 20, 1996, you published an article under
   your "M. Huber" account which purported to be a citation
   from a web page. Your text read, in part, as follows:

      "...journal that the Nazis were an aberration, that they 
      were the exact opposite of all that his Germany represented, 
      something from an eyewitness which contradicts the new book 
      by Goldhagen who blames all Germans, even little babies."
      (Huber, Survivor's Story)

   A check of your own reference, however, 
   http://langlab.uta.edu/GERM/GIC/Week_In_Germany/10Maywig.txt, 
   contained only the following text:

      "...journal that the Nazis were an aberration, that they 
      were the exact opposite of all that his Germany represented."

   Clearly, Mr. Huber, you altered the original text,
   and forged the final paragraph. It is equally clear that you 
   have not read Mr. Goldhagen's book - had you done so, you 
   would not have lied about his thesis.

   Question Five is presented in two parts:

   5-1: Why did you lie about your alteration of the text, Mr. Huber?

   5-2: Which page of Mr. Goldhagen's book ("Hitler's Willing
        Executioners") blames "all Germans, even little babies"
        for the Holocaust?

Question Six
------------

   On June 19, 1996, Ms. Manicka told the following whopper:

      "A perfect example of lies by McFlea. Magnetic tape media 
      were not invented prior to the fifties. In fact, the 
      'plastics' which enabled manufacture of 'tape' were a 
      product of the fifties." (Huber, Brit Rabbi)

   William Anderson, quoting from a reference work called "World of 
   Invention," offered the following rebuttal:

      "The invention of magnetic recording tape is variously 
      attributed to J.A. O'Neill, who is said to have created 
      a paper version in 1927 in the United States, and the 
      German engineer Fritz Pfleumer, who in 1928 developed a 
      tape made by bonding a thin coating of oxide to strips of 
      either paper or film.  It was Pfleumer who filed the 
      first audiotape patent in 1929...

      "In 1935, the German electronics firm AEG produced a 
      prototype of a record/playback machine, called a magnetophon, 
      based on Pfleumer's ideas but using plastic tape.  BASF went 
      on to refine the tape AEG had used, presenting the first 
      usable magnetic tape at the Berlin Fair in 1935.  The first 
      public tape recording was made by the London Philharmonic 
      Orchestra at the BASF factory in Ludwigshafen, Germany, in 
      1936."

   Mr. Anderson concluded by noting that the first plastics were
   developed in 1836. (Anderson, Re: Brit Rabbi)

Question Six is an easy one: Why did you lie about these basic
issues?

 [Long list of citations follows - hit BREAK to avoid them]

                             Work Cited

   Anderson, William C. UseNet alt.revisionism. Subject: "Re: real 
   revisionism,WASHINGTON POST style," Mar 7 1996, Message-ID: 
   4hn8fb$1vp@larry.cc.emory.edu

   Anderson, William C. UseNet alt.revisionism. Subject: "
   Re: Brit rabbi admits 6,000,000 is fraud," June 19, 1996.
   Message-ID: 4q9jg2$kg3@lendl.cc.emory.edu, archived in URL
   http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/h/huber.m/lie-recording-tape

   Huber, A. UseNet alt.politics.white-power. Subject: "Re: AIR PHOTOS 
   PROVE 'GAS CHAMBERS' ARE PROPAGANDA LIES," January 29, 1996.
   Message-ID: 4eis3q$hio@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com
   http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/h/huber.a/huber.0196

   --------. UseNet alt.politics.nationalism.white. Subject: 
   "Re: AIR PHOTOS PROVE "GAS CHAMBERS" ARE PROPAGANDA LIES,"
   Feb  1, 1996, Message-ID: 4epopo$rmm@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com
   http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/h/huber.a/huber.0296

   --------. UseNet alt.politics.white-power. Subject: "
   Re: 27th question," Feb 4, 1996, Message-ID: 
   4f10lf$15n0@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com
   http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/h/huber.a/huber.0296

   -------. UseNet alt.politics.white-power. Subject: "Re: AIR PHOTOS 
   PROVE 'GAS CHAMBERS' ARE PROPAGANDA LIES," Feb 5, 1996.
   Message-ID: 4f3u71$23ik@useneta1.news.prodigy.com
   http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/h/huber.a/huber.0296

   -------. UseNet alt.politics.white-power.  Subject: "Re: AIR PHOTOS 
   PROVE 'GAS CHAMBERS' ARE PROPAGANDA LIES," Feb 5, 1996.
   Message-ID: 4f3u71$23ik@useneta1.news.prodigy.com
   http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/h/huber.a/huber.0296

   -------. UseNet alt.politics.white-power. Subject: "Re: A 
   jewish dilemna!," Mar 7, 1996.  Message-ID: 
   4hmp5u$12sa@useneta1.news.prodigy.com
   http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/h/huber.a/huber.0396

   --------. UseNet alt.politics.nationalism.white, Subject: "traitors 
   in the US of A," Mar 7 1996, Message-ID: 
   4hmoad$117i@useneta1.news.prodigy.com; UseNet alt.politics.white-power, 
   Subject: "NIZKOR should post this treachery," Mar  7 1996,
   Message-ID: 4hmovb$1l06@useneta1.news.prodigy.com; UseNet 
   alt.politics.white-power, Subject: "Re: A jewish dilemna!,"
   Mar 7 1996, Message-ID: 4hmpc6$dva@useneta1.news.prodigy.com;
   UseNet alt.revisionism, Subject: "traitors amongst us," Mar 7,
   1996, Message-ID: 4hmnr8$sa0@useneta1.news.prodigy.com;
   UseNet alt.conspiracy, Subject: "treachery  at new heights,"
   Mar 7, 1996, Message-ID: 4hmn5l$bs8@useneta1.news.prodigy.com;
   UseNet alt.skinheads. Subject: "laugh of the day/j*ws 
   supported holocaust," Message-ID: 4hn51u$8qm@useneta1.news.prodigy.com
   http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/h/huber.a/huber.0396

   --------.UseNet alt.revisionism. Subject: "Survivors's story decries 
   GOLDHAGEN's," 20 May 1996, Message-ID: 
   4npn7q$15ms@useneta1.news.prodigy.com, archived within URL
   http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/h/huber.a/huber.0596

   Huber, M. UseNet alt.revisionism. Subject: "Re: Brit rabbi 
      admits 6,000,000 is fraud," June 19, 1996.
      Message-ID: 4q8uqv$1k0o@usenetz1.news.prodigy.com, archived in URL 
      http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/h/huber.m/1996/huber.0696

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