Path: news.voyager.net!aanews.merit.net!news.cic.net!wolverine.hq.cic.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!news1.best.com!nntp2.ba.best.com!rbi147.rbi.com!user From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Mark Van Alstine) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Does Ceacaa understand the fundamentals? Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:15:31 -0700 Organization: rbi software systems Lines: 83 Message-ID:
References: <01bc2a34$b5b4c400$4a7213cc@server> <19970319061800.BAA11887@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: rbi147.rbi.com X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.0.5b5 In article , email@example.com (Jamie McCarthy) wrote: > firstname.lastname@example.org ("Ceacaa") wrote: [snip] > > The Auschwitz complex cost over 20,000,000 marks. And Mr. Allen's source for this amount is? In reading Dwork's and van Pelt's _Auschwitz: 1270 to the present_, a figure of RM 20.6 million for the _first proposed_ construction budget for Auschwitz I is mentioned. It was turned down. Bischoff then proposed two seperate subsequent budgets. The first of these, called the "Provisional Expansion of the Concetration Camp Auschwitz O/S" was for RM. 2.02 million. The second, called "Building Project Auschwitz," was for RM 20.06 million. The agricultural estate was bugdeted seperately at RM 3.5 million. Auschwitz III (Monowitz) was evidently consrtucted under the aegis of I.G. Farben who, according to the authors, "would secure the building materials for the camp." Additionally, for the several thousand prisoners used to construct the Buna plant (and Monowitz) I.G. Farben evidently paid the SS RM 3 per day for unskilled workers and RM 4 per day for skilled workers. Furthermore, the total cost for the construction of Birkenau was RM 7.7 million. (cf. van Pelt, _Auschwitz_, pp.207,214-215,265.) Therefore, given that it appears that only the expansion of Auschwitz I was undertaken; that I.G. Farben basically footed the bill for the construction of Monowitz; and that Birkenau was constructed it should mean that the construction of the three main Auschwitz camps would have come to RM 9.72 million. > > The unneeded trains rides cost more as well as being additional security > > problems and the use of desperately need rail resouces.The creation of > > Auschwitz does not make sense in the context of a program of mass > > extermination. This is quite specious of Mr. Allen. The cost of deporting the Jews to Auschwitz (or elsewhere) was not picked up by the Nazis. The Nazis charged the victims for the train fair to take them to their deaths. Furthermore the security issues were quite manageable as the victims were typically locked into freight cars without food or water until they arrived at their destination. (cf. Lanzmann, _Shoah_, pp.117,129-134,142.) As to Mr. Allen's misleading assertion that Auschwitz did not "make sense in the context of a program of mass extermination" I would say just the opposite. Auschwitz made horrifying sense. Auschwitz, having both labour camps and an extermination camps fullfilled the duel rolls of suppling, for example, I.G. Farben, DEST, and DAW with a constant source of cheap and expendable slave labor while on the other in fullfuilling the ideological goal of National Socialism of annihilating the Jews. And the SS did this for an immense profit to boot. The value of assets, monies, and labor extracted from the prisoners and victims at Auschwitz- eveidently several hundred million RM -exceeded that of _all_ the Operation Reinhard death camps combined. (cf. Arad, Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka_, p.161; Gutman, _Anatomy_, p.258.) [snip] > This is really basic Holocaust history. You obviously do not even > understand the hideous fundamentals of why Auschwitz was built. > > Or you _do_ understand it, and, like most "revisionists," your aim is > to confuse as many people as possible. I'm not sure which. I'm sure which. For those interested in Mr. Allen's prolific Holocaust denial and crackpot "theories," please peruse DejaNews and visit the Nizkor Project at: http://www.dejanews.com/ http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/a/allen.andrew Mark -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties--but right through every human heart--and all human hearts." -- Alexander Solzhenitsyn, "The Gulag Archipelago" --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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