Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.history Subject: Holocaust Almanac - Dieter Wisliceny's Nuremberg Testimony Reply-To: firstname.lastname@example.org Followup-To: alt.revisionism Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island, CANADA Keywords: Wisliceny Archive/File: holocaust/nuremberg wisliceny.001 Last-Modified: 1994/02/21 " The Final Solution of the Jewish Question To the [Nuremberg] judges and the world it was Dieter Wisliceny who, following Ohlendorf to the witness stand, explained the meaning of the phrase `the Final Solution of the Jewish Question.' Wisliceny's interrogation, like Ohlendorf's, had been the responsibility of Colonel Brookhart; and since Amen did not regard Wisliceny's appearance as a witness as highly as Ohlendorf's, he permitted Brookhart to conduct the examination in court. `Do you know Adolf Eichmann?' Brookhart inquired of the thirty-four-year-old Wisliceny who, as Eichmann's deputy for Slovakia, had supervised the shipment of Alfred Weczler, Rudolf Vrba, and the other Slovakian Jews to Auschwitz. `Yes, I have known Eichmann since 1934.' `Under what circumstances?' `We joined the SD about the same time, in 1934. Until 1937 we were together in the same department.' `How well did you know Eichmann personally?' `We knew each other very well. We used the intimate `du,' and I also knew his family very well.' In response to Brookhart's questions about Eichmann's position, Wisliceny replied: `Eichmann had special powers from Gruppen fu"hrer Mu"ller, the Chief of Amt IV [Gestapo], and from the Chief of the Security Police. He was responsible for the so-called solution of the Jewish question in Germany and in all countries occupied by Germany.' Wisliceny related that when -- at the time of the shipment of the Slovakian Jews -- he had requested verification, `Eichmann told me he could show me this order in writing if it would sooth my conscience. He took a small volume of documents from his safe, turned over the pages, and showed me a letter from Himmler to the Chief of the Security Police and the SD [Heydrich]. The gist of the letter was roughly as follows: `The Fu"hrer had ordered the final solution of the Jewish question; the Chief of the Security Police and the SD and the Inspector of Concentration Camps [Richard Glu"cks] were entrusted with carrying out this so-called final solution. All Jewish men and women who were able to work were to be temporarily exempted from the so-called final solution and used for work in the concentration camps. This letter was signed by Himmler himself. I could not possibly be mistaken since Himmler's signature was well known to me.' `Was any question asked by you as to the meaning of the words `final solution' as used in the order?' Brookhart continued. `He said that the planned biological annihilation of the Jewish race in the Eastern Territories was disguised by the concept and wording `final solution.' In later discussions on this subject the same words `final solution' appeared over and over again.' `Did you make any comments to Eichmann about his authority?' `Yes. It was perfectly clear to me that this order spelled death to millions of people. I said to Eichmann, `God grant that our enemies never have the opportunity of doing the same to the German people.' In reply to which Eichmann told me not to be sentimental; it was an order of the Fu"hrer and would have to be carried out.' Eichmann, Wisliceny said, `was in every respect a confirmed bureaucrat,' a characterization given graphic meaning by a communication dispatched in 1942 by Eichmann's representative in France, Hauptsturmfu"hrer Theodore Danneker. In June of 1942, Eichmann had pressured the Vichy government, through Ribbentrop's ministry, to hand over fifty thousand Jews from the unoccupied territory for shipment to the east. Premier Laval, however, had refused to expel French citizens and agreed only to hand over `stateless' Jews -- those unfortunates who had managed to flee from the Nazis in Germany, Austria, Czechoslovakia, and Poland. On the evening of July 14, 1942, Eichmann had telephoned Danneker from Berlin and testily demanded to know why the transport scheduled for the next day had been cancelled. `The train due to leave on 15 July 1942 had to be canceled,' Danneker replied, `because, according to the information received by the SD Kommando at Bordeaux, there were only one hundred and fifty stateless Jews in Bordeaux. There was not time to find enough Jews to fill the train.' Eichmann, Danneker had related in his message, was furious: `SS Oberturmbannfu"hrer Eichmann replied it was a question of prestige. [He] had to conduct lengthy negotiations about these trains with the Reichsminister of transportation, which turned out successfully; and now Paris canceled the train. Such a thing had never happened to him before. The matter was highly shameful. He did not wish to report it to SS Gruppenfu"hrer Mu"ller right now, for the blame would fall on his own shoulders. He was reflecting whether he would not do without France as an evacuation country altogether.' Unfortunately, Eichmann had not adhered to his threat to leave the Jews of France alone because of the insult he had suffered. But the episode revealed the inhuman banality of the pepetrators of the Final Solution -- Eichmann had not thought in terms of human beings, of despair and agony, terror and torture, but of Judenmateriel: So and so many Jewish carcasses that he had contracted to deliver. `Were there distinct periods of activity affecting the Jews?' Brookhart asked Wisliceny. `Yes.' `Will you describe to the tribunal the approximate periods and the different types of activity?' `Yes. Until 1940 the general policy was to settle the Jewish question in Germany and in areas occupied by Germany by means of a planned emigration. The second phase, after that date, was the concentration of all Jews in Poland and in other territories occupied by Germany in the East, in ghettos. This period lasted approximately until the beginning of 1942. The third period was the so-called final solution of the Jewish question, that is, the planned extermination and destruction of the Jewish race; this period lasted until October 1944, when Himmler gave the order to stop their destruction.' As early as September 15, 1935, Hitler had, in speaking about the Nuremberg Laws, employed the term `final solution.' If the laws did not `create a ground on which the German people may find a tolerable relation toward the Jewish people,' the Fu"hrer had said, then the problem `must be handed over by law to the National Socialist Party for a final solution.' ... Concluding his questioning of Wisliceny, whom he called `a walking adding machine on the Final Solution,' Brookhart asked: `In your meetings with the other specialists on the Jewish problem and Eichmann, did you gain any knowledge or information as to the total number of Jews killed under this program?' `Yes,' Wisliceny replied. `He [Eichmann] expressed this in a particularly cynical manner. He said he would leap laughing into the grave because the feeling that he had five million people on his conscience would be for him a source of extraordinary satisfaction.'
Exerpted from-------------------------------------------------------- JUDGEMENT AT NUREMBERG. Conot, Robert E. New York: Harper & Row, 1983 pp 257-258, 273 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Brookhart: Lt. Col. Smith W Brookart, whom Conot describes as "the rock-eyed son of a famous midwestern senator, Wildman Smith Brookhart. Brookhart was the deputy of Colonel John Harlan Amen, the chief of the Interrogation Division, and was responsible for questioning Kaltenbrunner and other SS and Gestapo personnel. He was interviewed by Conot with regard to the Nuremberg trials. Six weeks before, during an interrogation, Wisliceny had been more specific: `Eichmann personally was an extreme coward. He did not start anything, he did not do anything, he did not attempt anything without being completely covered down to the slightest detail by both Mu"ller and Kaltenbrunner. He feared every responsibility.' On November 15, Wisliceny had told Brookhart that, of the total of 5.25 million, two-thirds had come from Poland, 458,000 from Hungary, 420,000 from Romania, 250,000 from Czechoslovakia, 220,000 from France, 180,000 from Germany, and the remainder from a variety of other countries. =30= Individual Holocaust Almanac files are now available via listserv. Send your request to: email@example.com, and include the single word 'index' for a list of available articles. For individual files, use the 'get' command, and the archive flag 'holocaust' to have them mailed to you.. Example: get holocaust get holocaust b-cpu.faq get holocaust irving.canada For a file list, try "index holocaust"
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