From holman@elo.helsinki.fi Tue Jan 28 17:43:27 PST 1997 Article: 94897 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!noc.van.hookup.net!nic.win.hookup.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!nic.mtl.hookup.net!rcogate.rco.qc.ca!n3ott.istar!ott.istar!istar.net!news.nstn.ca!newsflash.concordia.ca!sunqbc.risq.net!news1.bellglobal.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-14.sprintlink.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!ix.netcom.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!hunter.premier.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!192.89.123.24!nntp.inet.fi!news.funet.fi!news.helsinki.fi!holman From: holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene Holman) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white Subject: Clemens August von Galen (was Re: The Exact Evididence, Please Date: 27 Jan 1997 19:27:06 GMT Organization: University of Helsinki Lines: 109 Message-ID:References: NNTP-Posting-Host: eng18.pc.helsinki.fi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.2.0b7 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:94897 alt.politics.white-power:57272 alt.politics.nationalism.white:45448 In article , holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene Holman) wrote: > In article <5c8nhb$7h2@orion.cybercom.net>, amatthews@cybercom.net (Allan > Matthews) wrote: > > > > > > > You don't get do you? He's the one who seems to be asking > > >questions he has answers to. Now he's involved in actually answering > > >his own questions in a series of announcements, offering absolutely no > > >proof to verify anything he is saying. We can wait to see what he has > > >to say. > > > Disclaimer and statement of purpose: I have no claim to being an expert on German history. As a teenager I attended the Bronx High School of Science, more than 95% of the students at which were Jewish (I am not Jewish myself), in New York City between the years 1958 and 1962. Many of my classmates were of German or eastern European Jewish background who, born mostly between 1944 and 1946, had lost virtually all of their relatives in the Holocaust. Several were born in displaced persons camps and one was even born in the Warsaw Ghetto, and sent with his mother to Auschwitz, had miraculously escaped death there. I majored in German language and literature at Cornell University, and have spent a total of a year in Germany, both working (for Lufthansa at the Rhein-main airport during the summer of 1964) and doing research in linguistics at Georg-August University, Göttingen from February to August, 1966. I have visited Germany on several occasions as a tourist and in professional capacities. I have also visited and/or worked in Poland, the former USSR, Estonia, the former Czechoslovakia, Lithuania, and Ukraine, and when in these countries have made it a point to visit such Holocaust-related sites as the Warsaw Ghetto, Dachau, Auschwitz, Lidice, Babi-Yar, and the Vilnius Ghetto. I have had occasion to speak with numerous individuals who were interred at German-run destruction camps, I have seen tattooed arms and war-ravaged bodies. I have witnessed the incomparable horror of the destroyed souls of people who, unable to forget these traumatic events, curse their fate that they were doomed to carry memories of them around in their heads for the rest of their lives rather than perish. I do not approach this discussion frivolously. I consider Holocaust denial to be the ultimate obscenity, and I will make every contribution to a rational discussion that I can to support my confiction that the Holocaust took place in approximately the same form mainstream historians claim it to have had. I do this out of respect for my former schoolmates and teachers who never know what it was like to have grandparents, aunts, or uncles, and the first years of whose lives were unadulterated hell. I claim and intend to verify the following beyond reasonable doubt: The Holocaust took place in the form and within the timespan I have defined in another thread. Proof of its existence can be found by referring to documents and other materials which were printed and widely circulated throughout the Nazi period, and which can also serve as proof that a considerable part of the German public was fully aware of what was taking place. I will begin by making reference to a crucial but often overlooked figure in Nazi Germany: Bishop, later Cardinal, Clemens August von Galen (1878-1946). Background: The Nazis had carried out numerous experiments aimed at the mass extermination of the elderly, the feeble-minded, and retarded children. They practiced such euthanasia using a variety of methods, including poison gas, lethal injections, and 'benign neglect' (= denying food and care) between the onset of a state of war in September 1939 and the summer of 1941. Estimates as to the number of people who perished as a result of these measures range from 70,000 to 100,000 (see Robert PROCTOR, 1988, *Racial Hygiene medicine under the Nazis*, Harvard University Press, and the primary sources mentioned therein). There was no public announcement of such a policy, but the number of people who perished as a result was large enough to generate unrest among the general population as to what was going on. One figure who had access to inside information (being a Catholic priest, he had to listen to the confessions of health workers who were involved in carrying out euthanasia), was Clemens August von Galen, bishop of Münster in Westphalia. In three sermons delivered during July and August of 1941 and widely circulated thereafter, Clemens graphically depicted what was going on in insane asylums, hospitals, and homes for the elderly. The original German texts of the sermons are in the archives at the University of Notre Dame as documents no. 1941/0713, 1941/0720, 1941/0803). These sermons caused enough of a controversy that the killing of the unproductive and elderly was stopped for a while, even while the Nazis made secret plans to silence the bishop by liquidating him. Documents pertaining to Clemens von Galen have been collected and published by H. Portmann in *Dokumente um den Bischof von Münster*, 1948. The German text of the sermons, as well as an account of their publication, circulation, and short and longer-term impact within Nazi German society is given in Heinrich PORTMANN 1957, *Kardinal von Galen: mit einem Anhang: Die drei weltberühmten Predigten [Cardinal von Galen: with an appendix: The three world-renowned sermons]. 368 pgs. Münster. The role played by the Catholic Church as a force opposed to the general principles of the deliberate killing of human beings considered unproductive or undesirable which came to characterize Nazi society more and more as the war progressed may be found in Heinz HÜRTEN 1985, *Selbstbehauptung und Widerstand der Katholischen Kirche. Der Widerstand gegen den National-Sozialismus [Self-assertion and the resistance of the Catholic Church. The reisistance of gainst National Socialism]*. Piper, Munich. These sermons, comments about which can be found in the German press of the time, make it abundantly clear that a considerable segment of the German public was aware as early as the late summer of 1941 that the systematic, industrially organized killing of specific strata of the German population was being carried out as a part of national policy. Regards, Eugene Holman
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