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From mckinney@usaor.net Fri Nov  1 11:02:46 PST 1996
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From: mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 96 15:48:14 GMT
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Subject: Re: Which "KEN" is NOT among us...?
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In message <846708508$9865@atype.com> - Dave Kuehne  writes:

:>
:>
:>Brian Smith wrote:
:>> 
:>> 
:>> "The name's Kuehne.  Ahh don't care whether 50 Englishmen or 5000
:>> Mexicans flood in to the U.S.   Hell, they're both the SAME to ME!!"
:>
:>I never said I don't care.
:>But this is just a symptom of the real problem.
:>The real problem is that America, primarily the white race, has
:>turned its back on God.
:>
:>Solve the root problem, and the Mexicans will flee from our land.
:>Until then we will be trampled.

This statement sounds like what many Christian Identity followers say: Turn 
back to God and our problems will be over. I suppose this is an easy 
conclusion for Bible believers to arrive at. However, much more important is 
that we have turned our back on ourselves. I get the distinct impression that 
most of my critics couldn't care less if their White race loses control of 
America, and become like the Kurds over in Iraq. They imagine that even if 
every White person in America dropped dead tomorrow and their places were 
taken by Mexicans, Blacks, or Chinese, then America would still be America.

Oh yes, all we have to do is remember the Constitution and everything will be 
fine. "After all race doesn't really exist anyway. We're all the same."

I'm not willing to wait for God to sort things out. We have the ability to 
stop Third-world immigration. What we lack is the courage to be politically 
incorrect, and announce that we want our race to survive - with NO APOLOGIES.
Our courage is diluted by those liberals, and anyone who subscribes to 
liberal race theories, - like Arlin, Wizard, and several other goof-balls 
that I can't remember their names. While they wave their AKs around and 
build-up for a big showdown with the FEDS, the country is facing its largest 
threat in our history: THE NON-WHITE IMMIGRATION INVASION.


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Fri Nov  1 11:02:47 PST 1996
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 96 18:48:05 GMT
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Subject: Re: Which "KEN" is NOT among us...?
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In message <846721983$11309@atype.com> - joe@junior.apk.net (Joseph T. Adams) w
rites:
:>
:>
:>
:>Brian Smith (sbrian@micron.net) wrote:
:>
:>: into passive Indian peons!   Why don't take your Eastern Guru
:>: philosophies and chants and go worship cows under a tree somewhere,
:>: Gandhi!!  Whatever you do, don't swat at the flies.  It could be your
:>: great grandaddy buzzing right next to you!!
:>
:>
:>It's easy to ridicule another's beliefs, when you have none of your
:>own.

Oh, how brilliant!

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Ian McKinney
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"Atta goy, Arlin" - Abraham Foxman, Anti-Defamation League

"Wizard, you've got the most adorable eyes" - Morris Dees, SPLC

"This Militia thing is the best idea I ever had" - Gus Hall, Communist Party USA
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From mckinney@usaor.net Fri Nov  1 11:02:48 PST 1996
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From: mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 96 22:03:24 GMT
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Subject: Re: Book excerpt--Conor Cruise O'Brien on Jefferson
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In message <846720187$11086@atype.com> - db@press.uchicago.edu (Dean Blobaum) w
rites:
:>
:>
:>Shall we expel Jefferson from the American pantheon?  Conor Cruise O'Brien's new 
:>book _The Long Affair: Thomas Jefferson and the French Revolution, 1785-1800_ 
:>makes that argument.  Jefferson's enthusiastic support for armed rebellion makes him 
:>a hero for the right-wing militias and his (often obfuscated) views on race and slavery 
:>make him unsuitable as an icon for a multiracial America.  Read O'Brien's argument in 
:>the Epilogue of his book, now an online excerpt on the University of Chicago Press 
:>webserver.  Visit the Press at http://www.press.uchicago.edu or go directly to the 
:>excerpt at http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/616533.html
:>-------------------------------------------------

But, but, it just has to be a "forgery." Right Kaa, Arlin, Mike, Wiz??????????


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Fri Nov  1 11:02:49 PST 1996
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From: mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 96 22:48:18 GMT
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Subject: More Lies Smashed - Beria WAS Jewish!
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I wanted to clear-up one matter - Jewish predominance in Communism, which 
your great "Russian expert", Randy Ragsdale tried to obsfucate, namely by 
attacking my claim that USSR commisar of internal affairs, Lavrenti Beria was 
Jewish. (As if that alone refuted the abundance of other evidence I 
provided).


Read and learn, Randy:

"Ryumin and Ignatiev joined the minister of state security
of Georgia, Nikolai M. Rukhadze, to accuse Beria of
concealing his Jewish origin and fabricating a conspiracy
against Stalin in Georgia." - Page 306, 'Special Tasks' by
Pavel and Anatoli Sudoplatov, 1995, Little, Brown and Co.


"In May 1953, two months after Stalin's death, Zoya
Zarubina, who had become a dean of the Moscow Institute of
Foreign Languages and a party secretary, heard at a
confidential party meeting that Beria was concealing his
Jewish origins." - Page 307, 'Special Tasks' by Pavel and
Anatoli Sudoplatov, 1995, Little, Brown and Co.


Next we'll hear Kaa Byington screaming (as usual): "Forgery! Forgery! Sorry 
Kaa, you lose again.

Once again, I'm forced to say it - You goofs don't know what you're talking 
about.

Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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"Atta goy, Arlin" - Abraham Foxman, Anti-Defamation League

"Wizard, you've got the most adorable eyes" - Morris Dees, SPLC

"This Militia thing is the best idea I ever had" - Gus Hall, Communist Party USA
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From mckinney@usaor.net Sat Nov  2 11:27:48 PST 1996
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Date: Sat, 2 Nov 96 4:03:09 GMT
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Subject: Re: Arlin Isuues Physical Threats.
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In message <846873184$22310@atype.com> - sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) writes
:
:>The Black U.S. Army would have probably never even been able to make
:>it ASHORE!!   The Germans would have made MINCEMEAT out of a Black
:>Army!!!   LOL!   Nowhere in history is there any example of a Black
:>nation defeating a White one!!  Even in the Zulu War, the White man
:>destroyed the Zulu army with a FRACTION of their numbers because of
:>will, nerves of steel, and technology Africans to this DAY cannot
:>develop!  Talk to an honest (but safely retired!!) White officer or
:>general who knows about attrition rates by race!  He'll tell you!  

I remember reading that any time the Germans discovered a Black unit 
defending a battleline, they attacked it, since they knew it was the weak 
link. In many cases the Black troops threw down their weapons and ran. 
American Generals complained about this. One general complained that if a 
unit was more than 20% Black, it was essentially worthless.

I don't want to denigrate the bravery of mislead patriotic American 
White soldiers, but pound for pound the Germans were better soldiers who 
fought fanatically against great odds and under worse conditions. The 
Blacks, especially, were absolutely no match for them. 


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Sat Nov  2 11:27:48 PST 1996
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Date: Sat, 2 Nov 96 3:18:04 GMT
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Subject: Adams Goes Crawling to Nizkor For Help
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In message <846793313$15815@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) writes:
:>Oh, and if you have a problem with the
:>Nizkor folks being on this newsgroup - this is a militia newsgroup, and we
:>in the Constitutional Militias consider the Nizkor activists' posts to be
:>relevant to the discussion.  THEY are here by invitation, 

I guess you're really getting desparate - begging McVay for help. 

That's hilarious! And at the same time pathetic.

Hell, we've been kicking McVay around for a long time. Did you really think 
he would be of any use?

You goofs couldn't beat a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest - even 
with Ken "fill 'er up" McVay helping.

Ha ha ha ha!


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Sun Nov  3 08:46:12 PST 1996
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Date: Sun, 3 Nov 96 2:03:22 GMT
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Subject: Re: Communism is Jewish. (undeniable evidence here)
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In message <846887603$1432@atype.com> - rarpol@aol.com (RARPOL) writes:
:>Besides another reason I doubt that Beria is jewish is that Stalin
:>(a well known anti-semite) would have never appointed him to run their
:>native Georgia from 1932-1938, much less than head the dreaded NKVD.   
:>

I think you just proved your gross ignorance. During your "studies" of Russia 
did you ever run across someone named Kaganovich? He was Stalin's right-hand 
man and a Jew. Stalin's daughter even married Kaganovich's son.

NEXT?

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Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Sun Nov  3 08:46:12 PST 1996
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Date: Sun, 3 Nov 96 3:33:32 GMT
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Subject: Wizard is Covert Nizkor Agent - Beware
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WARNING____WARNING_____WARNING______WARNING______WARNING

WARNING ALL PATRIOTS:

IT has been reported that the person calling himself "Wizard" has his email 
address linked to Nizkor. Suspect "Wizard" to be a covert ADL or Nizkor 
agent. Also interesting is that "Arlin Adams" informed us that Ken McVay,  
HNIC, of Nizkor was "invited" to join-in on the MAM discussions. Seems 
"Arlin" is in on the operation also.

NIZKOR IS VERY HOSTILE TO MILITIAS AND PATRIOTS. WHY WOULD AN ANTI-AMERICAN 
OUTFIT LIKE NIZKOR BE PRESENT ON MAM AT THE INVITATION OF "ARLIN ADAMS?" WHY 
WOULD "WIZARD'S" EMAIL ADDRESS BE LINKED TO THIS PATRIOT-HATING ORGANIZATION?

We can only suspect that both "Wizard" and "Arlin Adams" are enemy agents who 
operate on MAM to obtain information against real Patriots. Information that 
would undoubtedly be directed to the Jewish Anti-Defamation League and Morris 
Dees. NIZKOR WORKS CLOSELY WITH THESE ANTI-AMERICAN ORGANIZATIONS.

NO REAL PATRIOT WOULD HAVE ANYTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH NIZKOR.

FOR YOUR OWN SAKE, PUT "WIZARD" and "ARLIN ADAMS" ON YOUR WARNING LIST OF 
SUSPECTED ENEMY OPERATIVES. ADVISE EXTREME CAUTION IN DEALING WITH THESE 
PERSONS. 

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ADDENDUM ADVISORY:

ALSO NOTE THE PERSON CALLING HIMSELF "SHELDON SHEPS" (PROBABLY JEWISH) IS 
LEADING AN EFFORT TO BAN CERTAIN PERSONS FROM THIS NEWSGROUP. SUSPECT "SHEPS" 
TO BE POSSIBLY WORKING WITH "ARLIN ADAMS", KEN MCVAY, AND "WIZARD" IN AN 
EFFORT TO CONTROL DISCUSSIONS AND FEED INTELLIGENCE ON PATRIOT 
DISCUSSIONS AND ACTIVITIES TO ADL, SPLC, SWC, ETC.

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YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED - ADVISE NO CONTACT WITH ABOVE MENTIONED PERSONS. 

Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Mon Nov  4 07:32:31 PST 1996
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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 96 3:33:10 GMT
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Subject: Re: fig newtons & Nazis
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In message <846975906$6358@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) writes:
:>
:>
:>In article <846909183$2946@atype.com>, daddison@lville.mindspring.com (Don
:>Addison) writes:
:>
:>>Do you think they know the difference betwween realism and fanaticism?
:>
:>I don't think the nazidiots can even identify reality most of the time....
:>
:>Arlin

ARLIN WASTES BANDWIDTH ON ANOTHER OF HIS WORTHLESS POSTS.



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Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Mon Nov  4 07:32:32 PST 1996
Article: 43549 of misc.activism.militia
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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 96 13:18:04 GMT
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Subject: Re: More Lies Smashed - Beria WAS Jewish!
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In message <847051400$12330@atype.com> - Robert Ireland  wri
tes:
:>Steven isn't afraid of anything I(v)an writes.  It is that you people
:>are just to stupid to understand that no one on this newsgroup feels any
:>need to discuss any points to your perverted world views or race views. 

Well, why do they keep coming back so we can knock them around? Hey, I don't 
force Arlin to make his hundred posts per day. Look, ignore us, don't post to 
our threads, it's all in your hands.

BTW, I hope you'll notice that neither I, no the others, infringe on your 
IRS, Fed, etc. discussions. We have restraint, why don't you?

[snipped usual idiocy to reduce monotony]


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Mon Nov  4 07:32:33 PST 1996
Article: 43573 of misc.activism.militia
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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 96 2:03:22 GMT
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Subject: If We Are BANNED - YOU LOSE!
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Now the cowards have retreated to the last refuge of scoundrels - CENSORSHIP. 
However, you cannot really censor me from this NG if I don't want to be 
censored. I can easily change my ID and come right back. But, what you are 
actually doing is admitting DEFEAT. Arlin Adams, with all your "thousands" of 
so-called "militia" members, you have failed to suppress the truth which I 
and others have spoken. You attempted your mediocre arguments and I shot you 
down. You tried insults with no effect. Next you tried making physical 
threats and I laughed at you. You even begged the Jewish-funded traitor McVay 
and the ego-moniacal Milton Kleim to come save you, and that failed. Finally, 
you want to censor us.

Admit it, if not to me, then at least to yourselves - you do not have your 
shit together. You have no coherant ideology. You have no intellectual 
guts. You have no strength of will.

Being banned from this NG will NOT be a victory for you. Nooooo! It means I 
and the others WIN. We beat you. Even being out-gunned in both actual numbers 
and total posts, we prevailed. We never flinched. We didn't back down.

YOU FLINCHED, ARLIN.

Keep flinching, and know that it is WE who represent tomorrow - not you.

It might do you all well to remember an ancient prayer chanted by 
debased and degenerate "multi-cultural" Romans over two thousand years ago:

"GOD SAVE US FROM THE MEN OF THE NORTH"


Yours truly,
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From mckinney@usaor.net Mon Nov  4 07:32:34 PST 1996
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From: mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
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Subject: Re: interesting bit of information
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In message <846975875$6292@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) writes:
:>
:>
:>Hi Folks,
:>
:>well, well, militia intelligence sources indicate that at least one of the
:>little netnazis is *not* a real nazi, but is, in fact, a radical leftist
:>attempting to stir up trouble for the militia movement, both by disrupting
:>our newsgroup, *and* by attempting to forge some sort of a false
:>impression concerning the relationship between the nazidiots and our
:>movement.  At the same time, we have *no* indications that the *real*
:>netnazis know that they have a ringer in their midst...s-o-o, I wonder
:>which one it is?

This post is total idiocy. Anyone who is familiar with me knows I would never 
take-in a liberal leftist - even to show you to be ignorant. I do have 
standards, which is more than I can say for you.

Bringing in Nizkor to save your butts, what a laugh!



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From mckinney@usaor.net Mon Nov  4 07:32:34 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Uses of Nazoids
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In message <846975869$6278@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) writes:
:>
:>
:>In article <846900200$2244@atype.com>, daddison@lville.mindspring.com (Don
:>Addison) writes:
:>
:>> they'll make willing cannon fodder.
:>
:>oh c'mon, Don - everybody knows nazis are cowards...and I sure wouldn't
:>trust one with a loaded weapon, or a loaded squirtgun for that matter.

Cowards, Arlin? I don't know how you can say that with a straight face. It is 
you and your goof-balls that are calling for censorship. I call that cowardly.


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From mckinney@usaor.net Mon Nov  4 07:32:35 PST 1996
Article: 43582 of misc.activism.militia
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Subject: Re: WAR
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In message <846961396$4848@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) writes:
:>
:>
:>In article <846947885$4057@atype.com>, mpitcava@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
:>(Mark T Pitcavage) writes:
:>
:>>Hey boys and girls, if you e-mail Tom Metzger, be sure to ask him how he
:>>liked having his ass sued off by the SPLC and the ADL for his role in
:>inciting a 
:>>beating death by skinheads.
:>
:>naah, Mark, tommy (messes with boys) metzger is accustomed to *that*
:>question by now - but if you want to set him off, ask him when the last
:>time was that he ran his hairpiece through the washing machine...you did
:>know he wears a wig, didn't you?
:>
:>Arlin H. Adams

Although I am not affiliated with WAR, even I know that Tom Metzger finally 
said "surrender" and shaved his head at least a year ago.

Is that the best you could come up with - his thinning hair? 

Jeez!
 
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From mckinney@usaor.net Mon Nov  4 07:32:36 PST 1996
Article: 43583 of misc.activism.militia
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Subject: Re: Arlin Isuues Physical Threats.
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In message <846978514$6858@atype.com> - mpitcava@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mar
k T Pitcavage) writes:

:>As to my ethnicity and identity, I am an African-Asian-Native
:>American-European-Australian-Indian-Pacific 
:>Islander-Jewish-Catholic-Protestant-Atheist-Muslim-Buddhist-Hindu-straight-
:>gay-bisexual-AMERICAN.

Well, at least you have a genetic excuse for acting like an idiot. The others 
must be simply psychotic or grossly stupid.


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From mckinney@usaor.net Mon Nov  4 07:32:36 PST 1996
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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 96 3:18:13 GMT
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Subject: Re: Which "KEN" is NOT among us...?
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In message <846883099$1030@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) writes:
:>
:>
:>In article <846877744$541@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
:>writes:
:>
:>> Please post where I've THREATENED anybody, please.
:>
:>you have repeatedly stated that you wish to remove basic civil rights from
:>people of ethnic and religious groups which you do not like. 


Please give the details. Arlin, I've always noticed you're very good at 
making broad unsupportable accusations, but absolutely pathetic at producing 
evidence to support these claims. 

I'll say this much about you - at least you're consistant. So far, I think 
you're batting almost 1000.


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From mckinney@usaor.net Mon Nov  4 07:32:37 PST 1996
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In message <846884883$1231@atype.com> - "Bill K."  writ
es:

:>> It's easy to ridicule another's beliefs, when you have none of your
:>> own.
:>> 
:>> Joe
:>
:>Everyone must believe in something.
:>I believe I'll have another beer...

I think he finally said something remotely funny.


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From mckinney@usaor.net Mon Nov  4 07:32:38 PST 1996
Article: 43594 of misc.activism.militia
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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 96 3:48:08 GMT
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Subject: Re: Q for those who object to Jews
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In message <846881325$863@atype.com> - smaceach@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Scott MacEac
hern) writes:
:>
:>
:>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:
:>
:>>Our cowardly scientific world has shirked away from the task.  There
:>>is no such a thing as "funding" for a politically incorrect science
:>>project, certainly not for anyone who wishes to make tenure!!   
:>
:>Sorry, Brian ol' boy, but there is. It's called the Pioneer Fund, and
:>they exist to fund racist and eugenic research. An inordinate number
:>of racist scientists have gotten money from them, and they're quite
:>generous.

I'll take your word on that (against my gut reaction), but that one 
foundation is a drop in the proverbial bucket when compared to the multitude 
of politically correct foundations.

Since you were only able to name one such foundation - which is obviously 
the exception - you have thus "proved the rule" that the overwhelming 
majority would never fund such studies as the Pioneer Fund does - mostly for 
political reasons (obviously). 


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From mckinney@usaor.net Mon Nov  4 07:32:39 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Q for those who object to Jews
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In message <846977624$6639@atype.com> - Kaa Byington 
 writes:
:>> >Slavs are the result of Genghis Khan's invasion of Eastern Europe,
:>> >CEntral Asian "blood" mixed with "caucasian"    Turks are from Central
:>> >Asia, period, and Armenians are indigenous to the Causcasus, and have
:>> >been Christian since forever.  Jews are related to none of these.  They
:>> >are a semitic people, exactly like the Arabs.
:>> 
:>> The alleged intermarrying of Asians with Europeans from Genghis Khan
:>> invasion of Eastern Europe has been wildly overstated, so further the
:>> discredit the idea of a "White race."  Khan only got as far as the
:>> Eastern Ukraine and his foothold there lasted from 1222-1227, a mere 5
:>> or 6 years.
:>
:>My guess is that most genes there didn't cross over through 
:>intermarriage, but rather through rape, the way invading armies 
:>traditionally share their genes. THe Russians lived under the "Tartar 
:>yoke" for hundreds of years.   ANd you forget that Attila the Hun was 
:>Asian, and a number of other raiders from the east.  They got as far as 
:>southern Germany, and they left behind them the Slavs--those high 
:>cheekbones and those slanty eyes.  I believe that in Hitler's Aryan 
:>philosophy, Slavs were not white, excactly because of that.

Even if I accepted your Slavs=Mongoloid/Aryan theory, the amount of Asiatic 
blood that was ever there was tiny and has been effectively bred out by 
infusions of fresh White genes from Western Europe. I mean what percentage 
are we talking anyway about 0.1%? That hardy makes a difference.

BTW, my wife is 100% Slav - Russian, Slovak, and Croatian. Neither her, nor 
anyone in her family, has even the slightest hint of Mongoloid features.

My personal position is that any White person who is less than 
one-sixteenth non-white would be accepted as White. That is a concession I 
make in our imperfect world. Thomas Jefferson claimed one-eighth with regard 
to White/Black ancestry, but I want a little more than that.

Not insignificantly, it's been my experience that even small amounts of Black 
admixture taints a White person in physical appearance much more than the 
same amount of Asiatic blood. I find it pretty easy to detect a "White" 
person who has tiny amounts of Black admixture. Incidentally, my wive has 
nearly a perfect record in detecting Jews. I'm not as good by comparison. She 
can spot a Jew a mile away. (I thought I'd through that in for all those who 
maintain that Jews are "only a religion.")


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From mckinney@usaor.net Mon Nov  4 10:47:49 PST 1996
Article: 43644 of misc.activism.militia
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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 96 18:33:04 GMT
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Subject: The National Alliance is America's Only Hope
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LET'S START TAKING AMERICA BACK

There are many of you that have a similar view as mine of our present 
situation. I don't think I need to rehash all the points that we've all 
probably spent untold amounts of time discussing with our friends and 
associates. So, I'll get directly to the point. I would like to extend an 
invitation to all you from the National Alliance. The Alliance is looking for 
intelligent and dedicated men and women who know the score when it comes to 
the present, and future, situation with regard to demographics in this 
country. For many I can't tell you anything you don't already know on 
that, in fact, you may well be more knowledgable. Regardless, we are looking 
for not just anybody, but want to offer the opportunity to serious White men 
and women of joining us in our education and out-reach activities. 

We have many programs now in place with more planned: 

Several publications - National Vanguard magazine, Free Speech newsletter and 
others. 

A world-wide, weekly radio show, American Dissident Voices. ADV can be heard 
on international shortwave, a number regular broadcast stations, and on 
sattelite. 

A book publishing arm, National Vanguard Books. The latest NVB catalog 
lists hundreds of books, audio and video tapes (many suppressed and 
unavailable anywhere else).  

A television studio is underconstruction. 

Also we have numerous active local units in many North American cities and 
European countries who are active in literature distributions, sponsoring 
cultural activities for White people, and sponsoring speakers. A number of 
units are active at gun shows.

In addition to that, we have world-wide name recognition, and the National 
Alliance's Chairman, Dr. William Pierce, has appeared on many TV shows - most 
recently "60 Minutes". 

In short, I don't think you can find a more serious, effective, and
dedicated organization standing-up for White folks, than the National
Alliance.

Anyway, I hope you stop by the Alliance's site (http://www.natvan.com) and 
read over our mission statement and other information. If you agree that 
half-measures will not do, then I hope you will contact the Alliance.

Accept your responsibilty and get involved. There is no time to waste. The 
liberals, hateful minorities, corrupt politicians, and other enemies of 
our people NEVER rest.


Yours truly,
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From mckinney@usaor.net Mon Nov  4 13:39:09 PST 1996
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In message <847052353$12496@atype.com> - sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) writes
:
:>
:>
:>ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:
:>
:>
:>>In article <847010021$10666@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
:>>writes:
:>
:>>>ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:
:>>>
:>>>>sorry guy, but we're not here for hero worship.  Most especially we are
:>>>>not here give any sort of encouragement to a group which openly murders
:>>>>unarmed innocents.
:>>>
:>>>What do call militias then?  Ever heard of Terry Nichols?  Tim
:>>>McVeigh?
:>
:>>Well, let's see, McV is a member of the brudern schweinen (and yes, the
:>>misspelling is intentional), and Nichols is somebody who discovered what
:>>talking big around a bunch of white supremacists would get him...no
:>>Constitutional Militia there - just neo-nazis...ask weird willie pierce
:>>about the phone calls from his friend Timmy, or perhaps ask weird willie
:>>why he breached his own security vis a vis Pfatzo Pfaff...not real bright
:>>that leader of yours, you know?
:>
:>Tim McVeigh was in contact with SEVERAL militia people, and on a
:>continual basis.  So was Nichols.  I guess the above is Arlin's
:>pathetic attempt to do damage control to whitewash both McVeigh's and
:>Nichol's strong connections to militia groups.  

Brian, this guy, Arlin, will say absolutely anything. Yea, I'm sure Nichols 
would have a lot of credibility among "White supremist" while towing along 
his non-white wife. What a Joke! Such persons are always BANNED from all 
pro-white organizations. Non-white spouses AND dependants are strictly 
forbidden in National Alliance membership.

I'm now finally convinced that "Arlin" is a fool - pure and simple - with an 
uncontrollable obsession to type responses to each and every message on 
M.A.M. regardless of whether he has anything of substance to add. If he can't 
think of anything else to say, or can't think of any insults, he just 
makes-up something.


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From: mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 96 17:03:05 GMT
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Subject: Re: Question to Militia-Types: WHO are the TRUE patriots?
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In message <847060383$13254@atype.com> - Lissa Valerian  writes:
:>
:>
:>
:>On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Ian McKinney wrote:
:>
:>> Under normal conditions, you might be correct. Under multi-cultural
:>> conditions, a true Patriot places his loyalty on his racial brothers and
:>> sisters - excluding the racial renegades, those of course, only deserve
:>> scorn and total contempt.

:>
:>You know, you seem to skip over the First Amendment to the Constitution
:>which guarantees us that as citizens, we have the right to "freedom of
:>religion", but you NAZI's would deny that right to Americans who happen to
:>believe in Judaism, now, wouldn't you?   A TRUE patriot would be true to
:>his country, and to the precepts upon which that country was founded.  The
:>CONSTITUTION.

I couldn't care less about the Jews practising their religion. What I object 
to is their legacy of subversion, manipulation and censorship. And most 
importantly their control of the media. Their religion has very little to do 
with my points.

Look around, you'll find the Jews are constantly trying to suppress someone 
else's Free Speech. David Irving can't even get his books published due to 
Jewish pressure. Of course, Irving was widely praised and published all over 
before he determined that some of the stories concerning the 'holocaust' were 
just that - stories. Now, he's being banned.

The Jewish ADL has been in the censorship business for at least 60 years. 
Nearly every current ADL effort involves suppressing free discussions. Their 
latest target is the Internet. They want to be able to decide what gets 
discussed. They're deathly afraid of true free speech.

If anyone else was up to the same tricks, I am sure you'd be outraged, but as 
long as it's the Jews you - you don't say anything. 

Wake-up

Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Mon Nov  4 13:39:11 PST 1996
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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 96 13:33:04 GMT
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Subject: Re: National Alliance: Form Your OWN Militia
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In message <847042532$11705@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) writes:
:>LOL!  no, no, little brianazi, you are supposed to agree with her!  "she
:>knows nossingk!"...go ahead, try it once...considering how much your
:>masters lie to you, we *might* actually believe you are ignorant of the
:>real situation...well, no, actually we probably wont believe that, but you
:>might try saying it anyway - you should probably start practicing....


Arlin, you're a real Bozo. Media Bypass magazine had an article on this 
Strassmeir person who has been linked to the OKC bombing. MB exposed him as a 
German Intelligence officer and ATF agent provacateur. Apparently part of 
Louis Freeh's "anti-nazi" collaberation with the Bonn treason regime.

The only real patriot appears to be Mike Bescia, who was unfortunately sucked 
into this ATF scheme. Bescia is reported to have gone underground with the 
Heritage Front in Canada.

BTW, none of these people have ANYTHING to do with the National Alliance.

Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Mon Nov  4 13:39:11 PST 1996
Article: 43664 of misc.activism.militia
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Subject: Re: Monty Python Meets Goebbels (Was:Don't ban the nazis, WHUP 'EM!)
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In message <846206294$3031@atype.com> - rajiv_gandhi@bc.sympatico.ca (Rajiv K. 
Gandhi) writes:

:>Well herešs your problem. Ingrid is a renowned source of inaccuracy. Do
:>some real research on your own initiative, instead of referring to the
:>usual garbage that the National Appliance keeps on hand, or that you pick
:>up from other racist boneheads. In that way, you might actually learn the
:>truth.

I suppose you would suggest we all look to Nizkor for the "truth?"

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Mon Nov  4 13:39:12 PST 1996
Article: 43676 of misc.activism.militia
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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 96 16:48:04 GMT
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Subject: Re: Arlin Isuues Physical Threats.
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In message <847042595$11762@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) writes:
:>Remember I told you that you would get to the point
:>where you would *flinch* whenever you saw my name on a post?  well, it'll
:>get worse, the longer you stay in this newsgroup...I promise.

Why aren't I flinching? Actually, I'm laughing at your posts. Laughing at the 
frantic efforts of a desparate character trying to maintain somekind of 
relavence. You've been clicking on an empty chamber for weeks now while  
believing that's the same as firing real bullets - intellecual bullets that 
is.

Arlin, you're not going to wear us down. We've been standing on your air hose 
for sometime and you're obviously suffering from a lack of oxygen to your 
brain.


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Tue Nov  5 07:21:37 PST 1996
Article: 43709 of misc.activism.militia
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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 96 16:18:05 GMT
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Subject: Re: A Suggestion
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In message <847058631$13170@atype.com> - "Bill K."  wri
tes:
:>
:>
:>Druid Here wrote:
:>> 
:>>    Many, and I say many because I am seldom unique, have been leafing
:>> through pro-whites versus everyone else.  Pro-whites have some things the
:>> militia does not:  TENACIOUS, PERSISTANT, and the ultimate SURVIVORS
:>> constantly under attack.
:>
:>said the disembodied voice of another of Ian's many-facetied personalities...

Wrong again, Billy Boy. I never use alterernate IDs. However, Druid has 
apparently seen through you and fake miltia group. When I and the others 
arrived here you people didn't know what to do with us. We presented hard 
facts and documentation which blew your non-sense out of the water. When you 
realized you couldn't defeat out arguments, you resorted to obsfucation and 
insults. Then you tried physical threats. You even went crawling to the 
patriot-hating Nizkor's caravan of freaks, traitors, and charlatans. Now, 
since all your efforts have completely failed, you're in the process of 
banning us. What all this amounts to is actually an admission of utter defeat 
by you.

Most rational people recognize that we won through intelligence, guts, and 
tenacity - all of which are absolutely essential to a successful political 
struggle. Let the whole world see what embarrassments you are. Yes, I said 
embarrassments, and totally unworthy of the claim of "Patriots."


:>My handshake to the goebblers looks a lot like going for my sidearm...

Yea, we know. You always need something to make-up for your lack of brains 
and guts.


:>>    Of course, the pro-whites are going to come in fighting.  They rejected
:>> the militia and are on their own cause.  If you can't learn how to make a
:>> friend, and shake hands with a "difficult person," the militia will fail
:>> at a crucial time.
:>
:>Fuck you, fake-Druid partially-cloaked nazi.  How's that for making friends?

We reject the false militia posers which are typlified by the likes of you, 
Arlin, the "Communist Wizard", and the rest of your liberal lackeys.


:>>    Yes, you want Tom Metzger to come and pay the milita a visit.  You want
:>> to be gracious hosts and hostess to this man with his million skinhead
:>> cells.  You want to IMPRESS him with your own organization.  You want to
:>> talk about issues concerning this nation and shake hands.
:>
:>I want him to stay away from me, and to continue to embarrass himself.
:>The self-discrediting nazi is your movement's most effective impediment.
:>And it seems to be all you have.

An embarrassment? As I have said before, I am not affiliated with WAR (WAR 
can be considered both an ally and competitor to the National Alliance), 
however, despite having the full brunt of Morris Dees' gang of Jewish 
lawyers come down on him, losing his house and money, and having his wife die 
of cancer in the middle of it all, Tom is still in business and WAR is bigger 
than ever. No matter what differences I might have with WAR's tactics or 
strategy, I'll give the Metzgers an 'A' for tenacity. 


:>>    A host and hostess does not sit pounding some points to be made because
:>> the guest made a comment that struck a nerve.  One excuses themselves from
:>> the conversation, changes the topic, and learns How To Handle People.
:>
:>Error:  They are not guests.  They are burglars we have not punished yet.

Here we go again. More threats. Sir, you impress no one.


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Tue Nov  5 07:21:38 PST 1996
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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 96 0:48:33 GMT
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Subject: Re: Wizard is Covert Nizkor Agent - Beware
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In message <847069383$14064@atype.com> - Laura Finsten  writes:
:>"If I can't dance.....I don't want to be part of your revolution."
:>          Emma Goldman

Ok, Wizard, here's a REAL Communist for ya! This is the kind of rif-raf you 
get when you "invite" the Nizkooks into your playpen.



Yours truly,
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From mckinney@usaor.net Tue Nov  5 07:21:39 PST 1996
Article: 43717 of misc.activism.militia
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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 96 0:48:48 GMT
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Subject: Re: Banning & Rules for Responding to the Nationalist Alliance
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In message <847066811$13968@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) writes:
:>
:>
:>In article <846993791$8658@atype.com>, militia-request@atype.com writes:
:>
:>>Minor technical point: banishment is for individuals, not addresses.
:>>
:>>
:>
:>Thankyou David, a number of us, myself included, didn't know that.


Oh my! Big difference! I can change my name quicker than my address. Just 
face the fact that your lame ploy will not work. I will leave when I damn 
well ready, and will, in fact, stay that much longer if you try to ban me or 
any of my friendlies - if, for no other reason, than to show the world what a 
bunch of phoney "patriots" you really are.


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Tue Nov  5 07:21:40 PST 1996
Article: 43720 of misc.activism.militia
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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 96 23:03:27 GMT
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Subject: Re: Race and the Militia
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In message <847054994$12753@atype.com> - medintz@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (Mike S. 
Medintz) writes:

:>The nazoids (or "white nationalists" as you call them) seek to declare the
:>individual citizens to be subservient to a greater collective entity. In
:>marxism, this entity is called the "State." In naziism, the entity is called
:>"race." However, despire the different labels the difference in effect on
:>the individuals being subjugated is virtually nil.

All societies expect that individuals relinquish a certain amount of person 
freedom for the good of the whole society. No one assumes the right to murder 
someone just because they want to. No, society dictates that people do 
not have the right to simply kill someone for their person reasons. The whole 
legal system revolves around the idea that individuals must give-up certain 
perogatives for the benefit of the society at large. This idea is not 
particular to communists. Obviously, Communists carry this idea to stifling 
levels, which destroys the advancement of it's people.

Anytime someone organizes with others, they automatically agree to general 
rules of conduct.

What you advocate must be total anarchy, since, in your mind, any 
reliquishing of individuality, is communism. An absurd position. 

Let's take you and the false militia, in order to be part of your group, I 
would have to give-up my right to free association. According to you, I can't 
refuse membership to non-whites in my militia organization. Those are your 
rules as I understand them based on what you people have said. In that regard 
you're engaging in "collectivism", and according to your definition, 
communism. So you're really no different from Racial Nationalists, except 
that we obviously operate under different rules. You can argue about our 
rules, but don't make an ass of yourself by postulating that anyone who gives 
up ANY freedom of personal action, or voluntarily agrees to an organized set 
of rules, is a "communist."


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Tue Nov  5 07:21:40 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: note to the supremacist types
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In message <847046883$12017@atype.com> - Lissa Valerian  writes:
:>
:>
:>
:>On Sat, 2 Nov 1996, The Bok wrote:
:>
:>>
:>>  Once again, I ask you the following:
:>>
:>>  Does you militia accept homosexuals and Satanists?
:>>
:>
:>
:>1.  What do those two: gays and satanists have to do with each other?
:>
:>2.  If you knew anything about satanism, you yourself know that it is
:>antithetical to the constitutional militia movement?


A little less obsfucation. Please just answer the question.


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Tue Nov  5 07:21:41 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: What Arlin is afraid of... the TRUTH
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In message <847052360$12510@atype.com> - Robert Ireland  wri
tes:
:>
:>
:>AnnDaltyn wrote:
:>>
:>Axis Annie's slandering of Dr. King and Arlin Adams snipped out of
:>respect for Dr. King, and Mr. Adams
:>-- 

How can anyone have "respect" for a lying, communist, race-mixing, 
woman-beating, bag of garbage like "Dr." Martin Luther King, let alone give 
the cretin a holiday?

I didn't include Arlin in the first staement, since, as far as I know, Arlin 
isn't a woman-beater, but I could stand to be corrected on that. 


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Tue Nov  5 07:21:42 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Thomas Jefferson supports Diversity!
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In message <847064896$13592@atype.com> - Lissa Valerian  writes:

:>"Difference of opinion leads to enquiry, and enquiry to truth; and I
:>am sure...we both value too much the freedom of opinion sanctioned
:>by our Constitution, not to cherish its exercise even where in
:>opposition to ourselves." --Thomas Jefferson to Mr. Wendover,
:>1815.

Racial diversity is obviously NOT what Jefferson supported, and you know it. 

Diversity of opinion is what you militia types are attempting to suppress by 
evidence of your demands to the NG moderator.


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Tue Nov  5 07:21:43 PST 1996
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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 96 20:04:19 GMT
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Subject: Re: That Ol' National Alliance Shrew-Step
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In message <847063983$13504@atype.com> - kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay
 OBC) writes:

:>My parents, you see, taught me to be discriminating in my choice of women.

Ya, traitors, communists, and Jews only.


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From mckinney@usaor.net Tue Nov  5 07:21:43 PST 1996
Article: 43831 of misc.activism.militia
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From: mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 96 22:33:41 GMT
Message-ID: <847146821$20525@atype.com>
Subject: Re: "Mr. Wizard" (PGISSource) is a COMMUNIST WIZARD!
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In message <847066699$13837@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) writes:
:>
:>
:>In article <846821073$18423@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
:>writes:
:>
:>> As is pointed out to him ad infinitum, White Nationalism
:>>REJECTS egalitarianism, is AGAINST gun control, and has NOTHING TO DO
:>>with any workers' revolt.  
:>
:>then why wont you even attempt to counter any of the points Wiz has made
:>in his posts concerning the gross similarities between your beloved
:>notional appliance and the communists, little ianazi?  People are really
:>beginning to believe that you may not have any answers for them...is that
:>so?

What points? All anyone hears from that nincompoop "Wizard" is an endless 
stream of inanities. Look, anyone who has ever been seriously familiar with 
the right-wing in America knows that Racial Nationalists, and the National 
Alliance in particular, are the most ANTI-COMMUNIST movements on EARTH.

It's one thing to call us 'nazis', I understand that you've been brainwashed 
that way, but when you speak of us being communists, you're really showing 
the world you gross ignorance.

Anyway, I really don't think that even you clowns actually think we're 
communists, but only use that smear since you have nothing else to grasp at.


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Tue Nov  5 18:00:58 PST 1996
Article: 43881 of misc.activism.militia
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From: mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
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Newsgroups: misc.activism.militia
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 96 6:48:23 GMT
Message-ID: <847176503$23239@atype.com>
Subject: Send the ADL a Bill For $6 Billion To Cover OKC
Lines: 54


In ascribing obligations of debt for the OKC bombing, I think first on the 
list should be the Jewish Establishment. 

Was it not the "Cult Awareness Network", an Anti-Defamation League 
subsidiary, who first stirred-up the government's attention on David Koresh 
and the Branch Davidians? The Waco massacre was the ostensible motivation of 
the accused bombers.

Has it not been Charley Schumer, Diane Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, Howard 
Metzenbaum, and every other Jewish politician, who have outraged 
patriotic Americans with their incessant promotion of un-Constitutional Gun 
Control Laws?

Has it not been the Jewish-dominated media who have pushed anti-gun, 
pro-leftist, multi-cultural, propaganda for years?

Has it not been the ADL and the Simon Weisenthal Center who have ceaselessly 
demanded censorship of all politically incorrect speech whether it be in 
publishing or the Internet?

If anyone should share blame for the OKC bombing, it must certainly be the 
Jewish Establishment for their constant irritating activities which were 
actually the the cause of the bombing. I mean if it weren't for the Jewish 
Establishments regular attacks on our Constitution, our traditions, and 
people, the reaction by American citizens wouldn't be occurring, and I doubt 
whether the OKC bombing would have ever happened.

So in light of their long history of anti-American activities, I propose we 
bill the Jewish Establishment for 6 billion dollars as a down payment with 
reparations to follow. To simplify things we might allow the ADL to be the 
funnel through which the money would come.

Well, isn't that fair and reasonable? After all, some of you ascribe 
responsibility to the National Alliance - which had absolutely nothing 
whatsoever to do with the OKC bombing - and that they should pay restitution 
to the victims. Well, again, I say bill the Jewish Establishment - who 
actually brought about the social conditions in which persons feel they have 
to resort to bombings and violence. 



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From mckinney@usaor.net Tue Nov  5 18:00:59 PST 1996
Article: 43882 of misc.activism.militia
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From: mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 96 15:48:03 GMT
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Subject: Re: Arlin Isuues Physical Threats.
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In message <847151283$20992@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) writes:
:>
:>
:>In article <847126084$18352@atype.com>, mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
:>writes:
:>
:>>Why aren't I flinching?
:>
:>oh, but little ianazi, you *are* flinching - were it otherwise you would
:>have been able to ignore my posts and simply go on about your
:>business...little netnazi, even as I told annazi........

Arlin, you're an idiot. I post your threats in order to show what a hypocrite 
you are. I don't need make threats. Intimidation might work on a few 
hobbyists, but you and Mike's threats only reveal your fear. Why else would 
you issue them? Did you really think I would say to myself: "Oh my, the big 
tough guy Arlin Adams has given his militia orders to come get me. I better 
stop posting and even cancel my Internet account." That's what you expected?

Buzz-off, fool. I've had to deal with your kind for some time now. I know how 
your minds work.

Actually, I must admit, these situations can become humorous though. There 
was once a New York Jew who liked to threaten me by saying he was sending the 
Jewish Defense League after me. According to what I heard, the JDL sent their 
representative to see this bum, and told him, in no uncertain terms, to shut 
his damn mouth and stop making threats on their behalf. I haven't heard 
anything since from this little Jew, or the JDL for that matter.

So, Arlin, I expect that if you continue to make threats, one day a couple of 
real militia men will show-up on your doorstep and make YOU understand that 
you shouldn't write checks on someone else's account.

Stop writing checks you can't cash.

Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Tue Nov  5 18:01:01 PST 1996
Article: 43884 of misc.activism.militia
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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 96 16:03:06 GMT
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Subject: Re: stupid little nazi tricks
Lines: 32


In message <847148583$20712@atype.com> - petry@accessone.com (David Petry) writ
es:
:>
:>mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney) wrote:
:>
:>>Arlin, you're suffering from delusions. [...]  You 
:>>only show symptoms of a mind infected with liberalism: believing your own
:>>hallucinations.
:>
:>>See a psychologist, and maybe a few hundred hours of intense therapy can 
:>>straighten you out.
:>
:>Ummm,  psychologists tend to be pretty liberal themselves.  It would seem that
:>they probably suffer the same "delusions" as Arlin, and hence therapy would only
:>reinforce those delusions.

Yes, I have to admit you have a point there. Probably the only way to cure 
his liberalism would be for Arlin to put himself under the care of Dr. 
Kevorkian.



Yours truly,
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From mckinney@usaor.net Tue Nov  5 18:01:01 PST 1996
Article: 43904 of misc.activism.militia
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From: mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
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Newsgroups: misc.activism.militia
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 96 18:03:17 GMT
Message-ID: <847216997$1823@atype.com>
Subject: The American Patriot Hall of Shame
Lines: 48


This is the official list of persons supporting the proposal to ban 
several individuals on this newsgroup. All have revealed themselves to be 
un-American and false patriots. The most interesting aspect is that one 
Sheldon Sheps (an anti-militia Jew) was the one who instigated the banning 
effort. This scenerio is so typical of how Jews attempt to subvert through 
causing divisions amongst Patriots, and thus silence voices who tell the 
embarrassing truth about the efforts of the Jewish Establishment to ban guns, 
restrict free speech, and manipulate well-meaning persons.

What we have is a thumbnail version of how one Jew can manipulate others - 
who don't want to appear politically incorrect - into going along with an 
essentially anti-American operation. After all, Sheps is admittedly AGAINST 
militias, so are you foolish enough to think he is doing this for the BENEFIT 
of militias? No, he is obviously and admittedly aginst militias, so we can 
only suspect he has an unterior motive - namely that of silencing those who 
criticize the Jewish Establishment.

The following persons have shown they are incapable of seeing past their 
noses, and allowing themselves to be manipulated by a not-so-clever Jew:


Diana                    diana@onramp.com
Joseph T. Adams          joe@apk.net
Arlin Adams              AHABIZ@aol.com
Robert Ireland           aircav@zapcom.net
Mike S. Medintz          medintz@falcon.cc.ukans.edu
Richard Kann             HUNTER45@concentric.net
John C. Stephens III     johannes@ix.netcom.com
Robert L. Hume (Hummer)  TheFirst.Hummer@worldnet.att.net


Patriots hang their heads in shame at the thought of these fools being made 
into "Shabbez Goyim."


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Tue Nov  5 18:01:02 PST 1996
Article: 43909 of misc.activism.militia
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From: mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 96 16:19:07 GMT
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Subject: Re: note to the supremacist types
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In message <847141392$19803@atype.com> - Lissa Valerian  writes:

:>As I am not a card carrying member of any militia, I do not presume to
:>know what their entrance qualifications are.  I simply questioned the
:>author about the groups he is referring to.  Since when did I or anyone
:>else on this newsgroup need your consent to post an inquiry?  Are you
:>perhaps trying to censor *MY* speech?
:>
:>
:>Lissa

Based upon the hypothetical case that you WERE in a militia, just answer 
three very simple, straight-forward, questions:

1. Would you admit homosexuals into your militia group?

2. Would you admit Satanists into your militia group?

3. Are you a homosexual or a Satanist?


A 'yes' or 'no' will do. I don't think any long involved rationalizations or 
obsfucations are needed. Just answer the questions.


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Tue Nov  5 18:01:03 PST 1996
Article: 43919 of misc.activism.militia
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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 96 16:33:33 GMT
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Subject: Re: note to the supremacist types
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In message <847141392$19803@atype.com> - Lissa Valerian 
 writes:

:>As I am not a card carrying member of any militia, I do not presume to
:>know what their entrance qualifications are.  

Well, Lissa, I'll give you the membership requirements of the National 
Alliance without any confusion:

Eligibility: Any White person (a non-Jewish person of wholly European 
ancestry) of good character and at least 18 years of age who accepts as his 
own the goals of the national Alliance and who is willing to support the 
program described herein may apply for membership.

Ineligible persons: No homosexual or bisexual person, no person actively 
addicted to alcohol or to an illegal drug, no person with a non-white spouse 
or a non-white dependant, and except in extraordinary circumstances, no 
person currently confined in a penal institution may be a member. (The 
National Alliance does not advocate any illegal activity and expects its 
members to conduct themselves accordingly.)

Quoted from "What Is the National Alliance - Requirements for Membership"


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Tue Nov  5 18:01:04 PST 1996
Article: 43972 of misc.activism.militia
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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 96 23:48:19 GMT
Message-ID: <847237699$3945@atype.com>
Subject: Re: Communist Party Candidate
Lines: 28


In message <847155784$21295@atype.com> - e142857@teleport.com (Walter Ulrich) w
rites:
:>>  I just did a search and found their web page.  They're sort of
:>>  endorsing Clinton, but they don't seem too enthusiastic about it.  They
:>>  definitely don't like Republicans, and are taking the attitude, "well,
:>>  at least he isn't Dole".  The phrase, "lesser of two evils" is used
:>>  several times.
:>
:>>>>>
:>
:>So the Commies endorse Klinton? No surprise in that.

Now, I want you to find anywhere were the National Alliance has expressed 
anything but utter contempt and disgust for Bill "Slick Willie" Clinton.

Wizard won't want to hear that though.


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Wed Nov  6 14:59:42 PST 1996
Article: 44026 of misc.activism.militia
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From: mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 96 18:18:20 GMT
Message-ID: <847217900$1933@atype.com>
Subject: Re: A Suggestion
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In message <847144990$20280@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) writes:
:>
:>
:>In article <847124285$18204@atype.com>, mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
:>writes:
:>
:>> We presented hard  facts and documentation
:>
:>..wave bye bye ian, y'all should be banned by this time next
:>week.

Hahahaha! It will take very little effort to circumvent that ban, if it 
occurs. If I want to be on this NG, I will be there - ban or no ban.

Anyway, why don't you stand-up like a man and defend your ideas, instead of 
cowering behind your moderator?

The world now sees your ideas are not defendable. You are crawling to the 
refuge of soundrels - censorship.


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Wed Nov  6 14:59:43 PST 1996
Article: 44035 of misc.activism.militia
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From: mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
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Newsgroups: misc.activism.militia
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 96 4:33:03 GMT
Message-ID: <847254783$5388@atype.com>
Subject: Re: The American Patriot Hall of Shame
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In message <847222383$2176@atype.com> - militia-request@atype.com writes:
:>That the eight signatories supported running the vote does *not* necessarily
:>mean that each supports banning the individuals listed in the proposals.

I understood what you said in the original email to me concerning this 
matter, however, my contention is that the mentioned persons will all vote to 
ban me and the others. I have little doubt of that and I'm sure my suspicions 
will be confirmed once the vote is taken.

Nonetheless, none of the detracts from my main point that it was a Jew, an 
ANTI-militia one at that, who formally petitioned you to start the banning 
procedure. Although the others will probably vote in support of banning, the 
fact remains they, themselves, did not instigate the procedure. Regardless 
of whether they are now willing to jump on the bandwagon, it was still the 
little Jew, Sheps, who got it going.

So the question remains: Why would an openly anti-militia character suddenly 
decide to do something for the good of anything connected with the militia? 
As I said before, he has his own alterior motives which have little to do 
with militias, but has all to do with silencing my exposing of the unsavory 
political activities of certain powerful Jews.

I'm still amazed that you people don't see Sheldon Sheps for what he is. 

Apparently many of you think Sheps is doing you a favor, but in reality, he 
is using YOU to do himself a favor.

Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Fri Nov  8 12:00:59 PST 1996
Article: 44339 of misc.activism.militia
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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 96 2:18:20 GMT
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Subject: Re: How I see it.
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In message <847307889$10083@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) writes:
:> 
:>We invited Nizkor in here in order to help deal with you...and no, they
:>aren't very comfortable with that, being much more liberal than most of us
:>are...they will leave right after you do...the longer you little netnazis
:>stay here, the worse it's going to get for you.

Hahahaha! So, it's going to get worse for us, huh? Fool, we're not the ones 
who ran for help. And we still don't need help. If necessary, we could 
round-up some more like-minded folks and swamp your ass. So, in light of 
that, you should give us some consideration, since if "disrupting" MAM was 
our goal, believe me, it could be done.


:>ah, now you know how all of us have felt about you netnazis for the last
:>four weeks!  deal with it!

We're dealing with it quite handily, and any frustration on our part exists 
only in your mind. You evidently though your man, McVay, was going to really 
put the "fear of God" into us. Jeez, he's been getting his butt kicked around 
A.P.N.W. for a long time. It's pretty routine dealing with that traitor - his 
posts are just the same old crap over and over. I mean, after all, what can 
anyone expect from a person who's highest station in life was a GAS STATION???

The ADL is always looking for some Goy who's willing to denegrate himself and 
do their bidding. Working for them is probably the highest paying job he's 
EVER had.

Yours truly,
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From mckinney@usaor.net Fri Nov  8 12:01:00 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Hitler was senile, a druggie and homosexual
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In message <847322296$11840@atype.com> - e142857@teleport.com (Walter Ulrich) w
rites:

:>Hitler was a drug addict before he became chancellor, see "Hitler -
:>Memoirs of a Confidant" by Otto Wagener, written by a >friend< of Hitler.
:>Even he details Hitler's degenerate habits. 

Oh, bullshit. I've read that book. If anything, its pro-Hitler. I saw no 
mention of him being a drug addict, unless you count his having chronic 
stomach trouble that required medication which was prescribed by a medical 
doctor. You want to make it sound as though Hitler was like a crack addict.


:>Hitler merely used the "homosexual" issue to excuse his slaughter
:>of Ernst Rohm and associates, yet kept the equally homosexual Julius
:>Streicher around because he didn't threaten him...

Hitler was disgusted by fags. He tolerated Roehm because of his military 
connections, but he certainly didn't approve of Roehm's degeneracy. If you 
really read "Confidant', you'd know that.

Hitler fired Fritsch, I think it was, solely because of alledged 
homosexuality. Fritsch was later found NOT to be a homo - he had been framed 
as part of a political intrique.


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Ian McKinney
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In message <846363858$15159@atype.com> - "Bill K."  wri
tes:
:>
:>
:>Mo10Cav wrote:
:>> 
:>> MM asks: "What do Aryan Warriors eat?"
:>> 
:>> I thought that was self-evident: shit.
:>> 
:>> -- Mike Vanderboegh, 1 ACR
:>
:>No.  The correct answer is "lead".
:>Today, our special is Jacketed...
:>And how many in your party, Ian?

How many in yours? I think there may be a few cans of Zyklon-B around 
somewhere.


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From mckinney@usaor.net Fri Nov  8 12:01:02 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Ban the National Alliance Trash
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In message <847394291$17837@atype.com> - smaceach@polar.bowdoin.edu writes:
:>
:>
:>"Van Meter"  wrote:
:>> 
:>> The best way that I can answer that is to say that we are
:>> Separatists
:>> and believe that all people are happier and better off living with their
:>> own kind.
:>> We do not hate other races...VanMeter
:>> 
:>I suggest that you speak to some of your compatriots on that -- Smith,
:>McKinney et al could give anyone lessons on how to hate people. And
:>apartheid hasn't exactly been a successful strategy for reducing tensions
:>where it's been applied either -- it turns out to be just a cover for
:>exploitation, 'cause if people are so different that they have to be segregated,
:>then groups just _have_ to be superior or inferior,......... 

Your premise is absolutely false and therefore so is your conclusion. White 
separatists have no desire to be "superior" to non-whites in their midst. 
That's what we had in the South and in South Africa. No, we believe in total 
separation: if there's manual labor to be done, Whites do it. As a matter of 
fact, if a White businessman hired non-whites, it would be he, and not the 
non-white workers, who would be prosecuted under law.

The greatest American disaster was bringing Black slaves to America. This is 
a typical example of capitalist ethics superceding racial ethics. If all the 
platation owners, slave traders, etc. were really concerned about the good of 
their race, then they would have never brought the Blacks to America. The 
result would be that the Blacks would be still in Africa, America would be an 
all-White nation, and so many of the problems we now labor under would have 
never come about. These men were capitalists first and only used racism as an 
aid to their profit-making.

Of course, having slaves worked to the benefit of the wealthy in more ways 
than just providing cheap labor. One effect was to keep the white working 
class under control by forcing White workers to compete with the plantations 
slaves, thus keeping wages low. Also by encouraging an attitude of being 
better off than the Blacks had a psychological benefit. Whenever a White 
complained of his lot or demanded better working conditions, the rich could 
say: "Well, you may be poor, but you're better than those niggers." This was 
a capitalist system which USED race as a political and social tool for the 
benefit of the wealthy. And its still the same old game today. Instead of 
Black slaves, we have Mestizo and other non-whites being allowed into the 
country by the wealthy who benefit from the low wages. However, today, unlike 
200 years ago where the plantation master paid for the housing, food, and 
medical care of his slaves, it is the White working people who pay this 
through food stamps, subsidized housing, free medical care, etc.

The bottom line is that we have a thoroughly corrupt and degenerate ruling 
class with absolutely no racial loyalty, as a matter of fact, they are 
actively ANTI-WHITE. These are people who must be dealt with. If you want to 
talk about "hate", well I hate these kinds of people.

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I can't even make myself hate non-whites - 
they are only taking advantage of the situation created by the super-rich. 
On the other hand, the rich know what they're doing and have amply revealed 
themselves to be total traitors, and there's nothing worse than a traitor. I 
hate traitors with a perfect hatred. 


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 96 18:48:04 GMT
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Subject: Re: MAM is about the militia, not race
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In message <847441108$21007@atype.com> - Daniel Kuehne  writ
es:
:>This is the way I look at it also. The NA types do not advocate totalitarianism as the 
:>Nazis did, but they still get labelled as such. Furthermore, I do not feel that patriots 
:>should ever use the propaganda language cleverly devised by the enemy to carefully 
:>control public discourse (i.e. we should refrain from using words such as "Nazi," 
:>"racist," "extremist," etc). These are merely concocted "spin" words created so that 
:>labels, instead of substance, are discussed. 

You've made a very important point. However, it is necessary to make it clear 
that the media and the establishment have a very good reason for smearing ANY 
racial separatist. Namely, that racial separatism undermines the very 
foundation of what's called the "New World Order." The NWO is founded upon 
ideas which actively seek to destroy national and ethnic divisions to 
facilitate a world-wide economic system with a small elite at the top. In the 
past the ONLY resistance to such far-reaching control by a small group has 
been nationalist and ethnic tribalism. It boils down to this: You can't 
support the destruction of ethnic nationalism, while at the same time claim 
to the NWO.

My criticism of the militia persons on this NG is based on this idea. They 
say they're opposed to the NWO, but they openly support the destruction of 
races which is the goal of the NWO. The NWO WANTS all races destroyed through 
mass mongrelization. This makes for a weak and confused population over which 
to rule. We see hyper-individualism promoted, along with the hedonsitic 
attitude of "if it feels good, do it." Each aimed at destoying any sense of 
group solidarity. No individual operates in a vacuum. Whether he or she wants 
to admit it: all persons are, and have always been, part of a greater racial 
community which is constituted of common biology, history, achievment, and a 
sense of group solidarity and pride. Destroy those things and you have 
effectively destroyed the people; you render them incapable of mass 
resistance to the elite's trepidations; you have destroyed your only opposition.

Look around you and see who is promoting these ideas. We know the media 
promotes it - they being the propaganda arm of the elites. The government 
does it - they being the military arm. The colleges too - they being the 
breeding ground for psychological warfare. And unfortunately, certain 
elements of the so-called "Patriotic" movement has become saturated with the 
same ideas. So, who is opposing who?

I have nothing against Blacks organizing to form their own militias to 
oppose these elites, the same goes for Mestizos, Asians, or what have you. 
As a matter of fact, I support racial separatists of all races even working 
together with other separatists for self-determination for all their 
respective races. However, there's no contradiction in that, since the enemy 
of ALL races is the same. In that case we have a common purpose that serves 
each group. BUT, multi-racial militias are out of the question. How can you 
fight the enemy while adopting the same destructive doctrine which your 
enemy is using to destroy you? 


You can't win by taking the enemy into your camp.

I'll say it again. The National Alliance is the ONLY White racial separtist 
organization with a clear and workable ideology and stategy, in addition to 
necessary tenacity and determination to reach or goal of restoring sanity to 
our race.

Of course, we are villified by the Establishment for one very important 
reason, we represent the ONLY uncompromising force that truly stands in 
defiant opposition to the New World Order - RACIAL SELF-DETERMINATION. 


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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Now that they ban vote is underway, I hope those anti-Americans who support 
it will sleep better knowing they have done, true to character, the cowardly 
thing. Oh yes, they came up with the rationaliztion that we weren't posting 
about "militia issues", but I've read hundreds of messages posted to MAM that 
had nothing to do with the ostensible topics described in the moderator's 
ouline.

I'd have at least some respect if these people were at least honest and 
admitted that we are people who refused keep our mouths shut when we hear 
lies, and absolutely refuse to be intimidated by empty threats. No, that is 
evidently something they cannot handle. Well, I want you to know that you 
have only revealed your weakness. You can't handle our tenacity. You can't 
defeat our arguments, and you can't make us flinch.

You want a nice little playground where you can play patriot. Well, I got 
news for you, the world doesn't operate by your made-up rules. When the shit 
hits the fan in America there won't be any Nizkooks or moderators to run to. 
You'll have to stand on your own two feet, but that's something you have 
unquestioningly proved yourselves incapable.

You represent no credible patriotic force. You're only pathetic posers doing 
the work of America's enemies.

Please note that I reserve those statements for some of the contemptible crud 
that inhabits several moldy garrets of this NG, and I certainly do not intend 
to impune the REAL patriots in the Militia movement.

Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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In message <847306995$9958@atype.com> - daddison@lville.mindspring.com (Don Add
ison) writes:
:>So basically what you are saying is that since I am a Pagan and have
:>gay friends their is no hope and I am immoral.  Remember Judge not
:>lest ye be judged that is something I have always lived by,sometimes
:>I'm just a southern baptist at heart Brian but I can not and will not
:>tolerate a goup of people who try to sit back and tell me what is
:>moral or immoral.

I don't oppose Pagans. As a matter of fact, there a lot of Odinists in the 
racial movement who recognize their obligation to race. I oppose satanism 
because its simply the mirror image of the Judeo-Christian cult. Also, 
satanism is a egoistic, self-centered, philosophy that's in direct opposition 
to many elements of racial philosophy. There's no compatablity between the 
two.

I oppose homosexuality because its life-negating. It is a perversion, not 
because it opposes the moral doctrines of Christianity, but that it opposes 
Nature, and is just another self-centered, egoistic, and destructive idea.

It is especially a misfortune for lesbians, since these women have had 
their minds warped away from the natural life-giving role of woman, and 
turned towards that of perverse, man-hating, barren females. I recognize 
women as the biological link and play an intrinsic primary role of 
culture-bearers. Lesbians have taken themselves out of the reproduction pool, 
thus further reducing the number of White children. 

Gays, lesbians, and race-mixers - manifestations of the unnatural rot and 
decay promoted by liberalism and the New World Order. 


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In message <847318722$11337@atype.com> - sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) writes
:>Hey Mark, maybe you and Lissa can get together on recruiting up even
:>more homos and homo-lovers and integrating them into the militia.
:>Set up "sensitivity seminars" for the normal militia folk, which
:>according to the latest popular liberal thought will encourage
:>everyone to get in touch with "the homo within"!  Set up bunkers with
:>large bath-houses, American-flag condoms, and KY Jelly dispensers in
:>every barrack!   Get Arlin to "rubber" stamp it!    I'm sure he/she/it
:>would be just tittering with egalitarian pride to do so!   
:>
:>But hey, don't take my advice, I'm probably steering you wrong.  The
:>more freaks, bull-dykes, and buggerers in your units, the better!  
:>Remember, you can't "discriminate" (hee hee).  That would be
:>"immoral"! (snicker)

Why didn't I see it before. Yes, yes! Steer all faggots and dykes into 
Arlin's militia. Hell, I'd bet he'll roll-out the RED carpet (pun intended) 
for them.

Hahahahahahaha!


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Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Sat Nov  9 06:02:03 PST 1996
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Subject: Arlin's Militia Welcomes Communists, Fags, Satanists....
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Well, Arlin's motley caravan of freaks and charlatans continues. Now we 
have Wizard, an open satanist, coming out from under his rock:

>It's  the name, Dan. A lot of people have, right or wrong, perceptual
>blinders against the "devil." As long as you stress "Satan" over
>"hedonism" or even in benign forms the Horned God you will have that
>problem. So do you worhip "Satan",  Pan, or just follow the precepts of
>hedonism? Keep in mind that among some of us, we worship neither Satan nor
>believe in "hell" though we do understand the "appeal" of evil to the
>power-mongering degenerates among us. "Satan" is a hominym for "evil" in
>many beliefs around the world.  Thus the choice of the name is -yours- not
>ours. So do you worship evil in the pursuit of personal power in violation
>of the Rede? Or are you merely a hedonist? -That- choice, like the name
>you choose, is yours. Make a stand. Then live with it. For eternity.

>Mr. Wizard
 
Yes, come one, come all: race-mixers, lesbians, fags, Satanists, degenerates 
of every stripe. JOIN THE NEO-MILITIA. 

And you clowns have the nerve to call me un-American??????????

Yours truly,
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In message <847423083$20226@atype.com> - rajiv_gandhi@bc.sympatico.ca (Rajiv K.
 Gandhi) writes:

:>Not this pathetic attempt at whites did everything under the sun nonsense
:>again. Letšs see:
:>
:>(1) algebra (developed in the Indian subcontinent)
:>(2) proved the world was round 
:>(3) ocean going vessels (poloynesians)
:>(4) the process for the seperation of blood (a black man, who later died
:>when your inbred white cousins wouldnšt let him into a white hospital)
:>(5) chocolate (mayans)
:>(6) gunpowder (chinese)
:>(7) writing (various, all non-white)

Listing all the achievements of Whites would literally overload the entire 
Internet.


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Ian McKinney
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In message <847388885$17396@atype.com> - daddison@lville.mindspring.com (Don Ad
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:>Since Emperor Clinton has been reelected, it seems that the rats are
:>leaving the ship. Do you think this portends the demise of Clinton's
:>reign because of the Starr investigation? Or possibly the planning of
:>some actions by the Administration that are repugnant to even
:>Clinton's inner circle?

Don't worry. Clinton will find more yet Jews and Marxists to pack into these
vacated cabinet positions.

Same Shit-Different Day


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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The New World Order, "Free" Trade, and the Deindustrialization of America

by Dr. William L. Pierce

(published in National Vanguard Magazine, Box 330, Hillsboro, WV 24946 USA. 
http://www.natvan.com http://www.natall.com)

Every regular television news watcher has heard the expression "New World 
Order" often enough now to be familiar with it. George Bush really 
popularized the expression during the last two years of his administration. 
Prior to that one heard only occasional veiled references to it, but as Mr. 
Bush ordered wave after wave of bombers over Iraq to pound Baghdad into 
rubble and attempted to kill Iraq's President with "smart" bombs, he spoke 
repeatedly of the need to punish those who tried to stand in the way of the 
New World Order.

Bill Clinton has used the expression even more freely: he has referred to the 
New World Order in connection with his futile efforts to assassinate 
Somalia's uppity warlord Mohammed Aidid, his support of Russia's current 
clown prince Boris Yeltsin, and, most recently, his campaign to push the 
North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) through the Congress. 

These days when Mr. Clinton or some other politician uses the expression 
listeners no longer ask themselves, "New World Order? What's that?" 

What's surprising, however, is the lack of any formal explanation for the use 
of the expression. No President or other national leader ever explained 
exactly what the term means. No President ever called a news conference and 
announced that thenceforth the interests of the United States would be 
subordinated to the interests of a new entity, the New World Order, and that 
whenever U.S. armed forces were engaged in some "peace keeping" action under 
United Nations auspices in the future, the aim would be to force some unruly 
subject of the New World Order to toe the line.

Lacking such an explanation, most people who have become familiar with it 
assume that it is merely an abstraction: a convenient label for referring in 
a general, loose sort of way to the reordering of international power 
relationships which has been going on ever since the Second World War -- and 
especially since the collapse of the Soviet Empire at the beginning of this 
decade.

Actually, for the initiated, the New World Order has a much more specific and 
concrete meaning. In brief, it is a utopian system in which the U.S. economy 
(along with the economy of every other nation) will be "globalized"; the wage 
levels of U.S. and European workers will be brought down to those of workers 
in the Third World; national boundaries will for all practical purposes cease 
to exist; an increased flow of Third World immigrants into the United States 
and Europe will have produced a non-White majority everywhere in the formerly 
White areas of the world; an elite consisting of international financiers, 
the masters of the mass media, and managers of multinational corporations 
will call the shots; and United Nations "peace keeping" forces will be used 
to keep anyone from opting out of the system.

Historical Background

The New World Order has very deep historical roots. Some scholars claim to 
have followed them back into the 18th century and even earlier, but that may 
be stretching things a bit. The history of the concept can be traced fairly 
clearly back to the beginning of this century, however, when Jewish leaders 
>from  a number of countries held a series of international Zionist Congresses 
(the first in 1897 in Basel, Switzerland) to map a strategy for taking 
advantage of the tensions then developing among the major European powers. 
The Jews' aim was not only to secure a world headquarters for themselves in 
Palestine, but also to increase their influence over the Gentile nations as 
much as possible.

The first part of this aim was realized in just two decades with the issuance 
in 1917 by the British government of the Balfour Declaration, promising 
British support for the establishment of a Jewish "national home" in 
Palestine. This may seem a rash undertaking by the British, considering that 
Palestine was governed by Turkey and occupied by Arabs who had been living 
there for centuries and had no interest in having their country become a 
Jewish homeland. The Jews, however, had allied themselves with the war party 
among the British leadership (the faction bent on destroying Germany as a 
commercial rival) and had used their already considerable influence in the 
United States to swing the U.S. government away from non-interventionism and 
bring that country into the war on the British side. The British leaders 
considered the promise to the Jews of a few thou-sand square miles of desert 
belonging to someone else reasonable payment for such a service.

In achieving this first goal the Jews relied very heavily on a number of 
Gentile collaborators, both in Britain and in America. Some of these were 
simply "bought" politicians, and others were Bible-bemused Christians who saw 
"prophetic" significance in empowering the Jews in the "Holy Land." In the 
first quarter of this century Christian fundamentalism had more adherents 
among the rich and powerful than it does today.

After the First World War the Jews focused more effort on their second goal, 
and again they relied heavily on collaborators. Woodrow Wilson was their most 
notorious American partisan, but others, such as "Colonel" Edward M. House, 
actually were more active in pulling the strings and setting the 
organizational plans in motion for what eventually came to be known as the 
New World Order. 

The ill-fated League of Nations, formed by the victorious Allies in 1919, was 
the first major organizational effort in this direction. Although its real 
purpose -- in the minds of all the principals except the inner circle of New 
World Order conspirators -- was to enforce the terms of the Versailles Treaty 
and protect the interests of the victors as opposed to those of the 
vanquished, it concealed this purpose behind a propaganda barrage about 
internationalism, reduction of armaments, and the rule of law among nations. 
It lost most of its political relevance when the U.S. Congress declined to 
ratify U.S. membership in it, but it continued as a billboard for 
internationalist propaganda until it was eventually subsumed into the United 
Nations Organization during the Second World War.

More important in recruiting individual Gentile collaborators were a number 
of elitist membership-by-invitation groups. These groups not only served as 
public propaganda organs for internationalism and egalitarianism, but they 
carried on a quite effective program of subversion by infiltrating their 
members into positions of influence in academia, government, finance, and big 
business. With a panoply of richly endowed fellowship programs, they kept 
their eyes open for promising young men on the make, who were flattered by a 
membership invitation or the offer of a Rhodes or Carnegie scholarship and 
were easily persuaded that they could look forward to a greased career track 
by adopting the goals of the group as their own. 

The Council on Foreign Relations

Probably the most influential and best known of these many groups is the 
Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), formed in 1921. With generous support 
>from  the Rockefeller, Ford, and Carnegie foundations, the CFR eventually 
extended its tentacles into every sphere of influence in America. During the 
Second World War, which it had eagerly sought, it gained a quasi-official 
status through its relationship with the U.S. Department of State. After the 
war CFR members were appointed to the most important ambassadorships and 
Cabinet posts. 

It was CFR member Henry Morgenthau, Franklin Roosevelt's treasury secretary 
and closest confidential advisor during his entire time as President, who as 
much as anyone else manipulated America into the war. Morgenthau, a Jew, also 
authored the genocidal "Morgenthau Plan" for deindustrializing Germany and 
liquidating half of that country's population through starvation.

A few of the CFR members besides Morgenthau who held high-echelon government 
positions during or after the war were John Kenneth Galbraith, George F. 
Kennan, Adlai Stevenson, Averell Harriman, David Bruce, Chester Bowles, John 
J. McCloy, William C. Bullitt, John Foster Dulles, Arthur Goldberg, Dean 
Acheson, Robert S. McNamara, Dean Rusk, Douglas Dillon, George C. Marshall, 
Allen Dulles, Herbert Lehman, Arthur F. Burns, Roswell Gilpatrick, Paul 
Nitze, Sumner Welles, Arthur M. Schlesinger, James R. Schlesinger, Elliot L. 
Richardson, McGeorge Bundy, Eugene and Walt Rostow, Dwight Eisenhower, John 
F. Kennedy, Richard Nixon, George Bush, Hubert Humphrey, Jacob Javits, 
Clifford Case, Alger Hiss, J. Robert Oppenheimer, Harry Dexter White, and 
Henry Kissinger. There have been hundreds of other CFR members at the highest 
levels of the U.S. government during the past 50 years -- including Bill 
Clinton.

The CFR and most similar groups were and are not secret societies, in the 
ordinary sense; they operate quietly, out of the public view, but not 
secretly. A policy of strict secrecy has not been necessary, because of the 
protection extended by the controlled news media. Indeed, the CFR has 
included among its members a number of leading lights of the controlled 
media, including the publishers of both the New York Times and the Washington 
Post. Members can quite openly discuss with one another policies which would 
bring the wrath of the public down on their heads if they were made generally 
known -- but they won't be made known, except in such circles and in such 
terms that they will not attract unfavorable attention.

Neither have these groups devoted to the promotion of internationalism been 
exclusively or even predominantly Jewish in their overall membership. They 
have, nevertheless, very effectively served Jewish interests. The Jews, the 
most ethnocentric of peoples, always have been intensely hostile to every 
nationalism but their own and feel themselves well served by anything which 
weakens the national feeling or sense of national purpose of the host peoples 
among whom they live. Thus, regardless of the motivation behind it, almost 
any move toward internationalism or "globalism" is welcome to them. A cadre 
of well situated Jews in each organization has been enough to steer it along 
the desired path.

Between the two world wars the principal ingredients in the ideological 
flypaper used to attract semi-thoughtful academics and other Gentiles into 
internationalist groups like the CFR were the concepts of reduction of 
armaments and providing a forum for the non-violent resolution of disputes 
between nations. The introduction of nuclear weapons during the Second World 
War added much cogency to this appeal.

North vs. South

After the Second World War egalitarianism also came out of the closet as a 
primary motivation of those promoting internationalism. The enormous inequity 
in wealth and power between the nations of the North and those of the South 
was held up as an evil to be eliminated. It was not only morally wrong but a 
threat to the peace of the world for the virtually all-White nations of the 
North Temperate zone to have such a high standard of living and such a 
disproportionate share of the world's wealth, while the teeming Brown, Black, 
and Yellow nations to their south lived in perpetual squalor and poverty, 
argued the internationalists. The South had many more people than the North, 
and their envy and desire for a share of the North's wealth would lead 
inevitably to conflict. It would be in the interest of the North to assuage 
this envy and desire by sharing its riches with the non-White South. 
Furthermore, the non-White peoples should be freed from the yoke of 
colonialism, which was keeping them in a subservient state and fostering 
resentment.

That such an argument could have persuaded anyone is an indication of the 
moral decadence of the North in the 20th century. There certainly were valid 
reasons for the White world to be concerned about the overpopulation of the 
non-White world: the destruction of tropical rain forests and other natural 
habitats, along with the wildlife in them, was sufficient reason in itself to 
justify a radical reduction of the world's non-White population. At the end 
of the Second World War the North certainly had the capability for effecting 
such a reduction fairly quickly and easily, simply by withdrawing all the 
technical support -- especially medical support -- being provided by the 
colonial powers to their colonies and letting Nature take its course. Today, 
with the modern chemical and biological means which have been developed 
during the past half century, the task could be accomplished even more 
quickly. 

Sharing, not population thinning, was the course into which the globalists 
steered the North in its dealing with the South, however. The White nations 
liberated their colonies, but they did not liberate themselves from the 
"White man's burden" which always had accompanied colonialism. The modern 
concept of "foreign aid" was born, and since the war some $300 billion in aid 
has flowed from the United States and Western Europe into Africa, Asia, and 
the Middle East (not counting "reparations" and other special subsidies for 
Israel). The internationalists were able to enlist the support of Christians 
and conservatives for this program: the former saw it as humanitarian, and 
the latter let themselves be persuaded that it was the most effective way of 
halting the spread of communism. The net result of the foreign aid program, 
of course, was an even greater non-White population explosion and a gradual 
increase in the material resources of the non-White world to the point where 
the threat it posed gained new dimensions.

All along the internationalists have been able to justify the policies they 
have imposed on the U.S. government with the same whacky logic their 
collaborators on the domestic-policy front have found so successful: if a 
dose of poison makes the patient violently ill, then that's clear evidence 
that the dose was too small, and what he needs is an even bigger dose of the 
same poison. Since decolonization followed by a massive program of handouts 
has only exacerbated the alleged threat posed by the poverty-stricken Third 
World, no time should be lost in imposing full equality on the entire world 
and using whatever degree of coercion is needed to maintain that equality. 
Thus, with this imperative scribed on its banner the New World Order finally 
has emerged from the shadowy conferences of the CFR, the Club of Rome, the 
United World Federalists, and a dozen similar groups into the full light of 
day, where it even can be mentioned within earshot of the White hoi polloi by 
such shabbas goy illuminati as George Bush and Bill Clinton.

Jews, Politicians, and Crazies

It should be noted that the New World Order booster club has developed a 
rather diverse membership as its schemes have matured. There are, of course, 
the Jewish stringpullers aiming at world domination for themselves and their 
kind; there are the cynical Gentile politicians of the Bush/Clinton stripe 
hoping to receive a few choice scraps from the Jews' table; and there are the 
multinational capitalists, who have learned how to turn a profit from the 
plundering of their own people.

Then there are the crazies: the homosexuals, feminists, and pederasts, who 
see in the New World Order the antithesis of the heterosexual, patriarchal 
world they hate with such insane fervor. Along with these are the 
Bible-crazed Jew-worshippers and the lunatic egalitarians, who are hell-bent 
on "equalizing" everyone.  

A substantial portion of the membership consists of a rabble of academics and 
literati who simply want to be fashionable; they would with equal enthusiasm 
support any other intellectual fashion possessing   as   large   and   
skillful   a   press claque.

Besides all of these, however, there are many people on the New World Order 
bandwagon today for more or less benign reasons. The world population really 
is far too large. The ongoing destruction of the global ecosystem really is 
unacceptable. Something must be done -- soon. Many of those who recognize 
these facts are neither power-hungry cynics nor deranged haters nor even 
fashion-conscious egg-heads, but instead are sane, principled men who either 
do not have the moral courage to put forth the solution mentioned above -- 
the radical depopulation of the non-White world -- or they have permitted 
themselves to be persuaded that even if they were willing to accept such a 
solution themselves, very few others would. Therefore, they have opted for 
what seems to them the only solution for halting the self-destruction of the 
world which has a sufficiently powerful advocacy group behind it to be 
feasible. They really believe that under the New World Order Kenyans no 
longer will be permitted to machine-gun herds of elephants from helicopters 
in order to collect their tusks, Brazilians no longer will be permitted to 
destroy the rain forests with chainsaws and flamethrowers, and Haitians will 
be forced to use condoms. Even White Americans will be forced to curb their 
wasteful habits.

The most effective tactic used by the schemers in recruiting this last group 
of collaborators has been a skillful steering of the debate within 
"acceptable" guidelines. Anyone who strays outside those guidelines is either 
ignored or denounced by the controlled media, and the rest of the herd is 
more careful in the future. There always have been utopian schemers, of both 
the malignant and the benign variety, but most of them have had little 
lasting effect on the world. The minions of the New World Order, by way of 
contrast, have made a devastating impact on world conditions during the past 
few decades, and the chances are good that they will wreak much more havoc 
before they can be put down.

War and Mongrelization

One might with good reason lay the watershed event of this century, the 
Second World War, at their doorstep. They certainly wanted it, and they 
plotted tirelessly to bring it about. In particular, they played the pivotal 
role in bringing the United States into the war, changing it from a conflict 
in Eastern Europe which left to itself would have put an end to communism a 
half century ahead of schedule, into a world conflict which was tantamount to 
racial suicide. It was the secret assurances given to Britain and France by 
the Roosevelt administration which led those two countries to declare war on 
Germany in September 1939, after German troops entered Poland. It was the 
Roosevelt administration's policy of undeclared war against Germany for two 
years after that which led Hitler to despair of remaining at peace with the 
United States and guaranteed that the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941 
would result not only in a Pacific war but also would bring the United States 
into the war in Europe. 

The fact that the Roosevelt administration was riddled with CFR members goes 
a long way toward accounting for its pro-war policies. Even without the 
natural hatred of the Gentile internationalists in America toward National 
Socialist Germany, however -- even without any internationalist motivation at 
all -- the Jews would have used all of their very formidable influence to 
recruit the United States into their crusade against Hitler, in the hope of 
regaining the deathgrip on German society which they had enjoyed before his 
rise. In other words, the Second World War conceivably could have been 
brought about even without the CFR and any considerations of a New World 
Order.

Many changes in America since the war can more unambiguously be attributed to 
the drive for the New World Order: in particular, the deliberate program of 
racial mongrelization of American society through a series of so-called 
"civil rights" laws and a radical change in the immigration law. The new 
immigration law was aimed at bringing more non-Whites into the United States, 
and the "civil rights" laws were designed to fully integrate Whites and 
non-Whites socially and economically. Both were intended to weaken the sense 
of racial and national identity White Americans had and to make them into 
more pliable raw material for the New World Order. 

The internationalists were admirably successful in reaching this goal, though 
it required several decades and all the powers of the controlled mass media, 
used with diabolical skill, to get there. Certainly, prior to 1960 the great 
majority of White Americans would have risen in armed revolt against a 
government which tried suddenly to force onto them the degradation and 
ignominy they have learned gradually to revel in since then. Americans who in 
1940 or even in 1950 would have responded with instant outrage to 
governmental demands that their children be bused to schools in non-White 
neighborhoods for the sake of "racial balance" or that employers give 
preference to non-Whites in hiring and promotion to compensate for past 
"injustice" now accept these things with a shrug and a bit of grumbling. 
Legislators who voted for laws requiring landlords to accept homosexual 
tenants or laws making it illegal to refuse to hire persons infected with 
AIDS would have been seized in their offices or homes by mobs of furious 
citizens and lynched -- literally. 

Turning America Upside Down

The Vietnam war period -- especially the decade 1965-1975 -- was used by the 
internationalists to turn American society upside down. The controlled media 
encouraged every sort of indiscipline and degeneracy in the name of 
"freedom." Drug usage was glamorized. Patriotism was denigrated. Racial 
mixing was made mandatory. The deliberate "no win" policy imposed on the U.S. 
armed forces, combined with governmental tolerance of the most open and 
blatant treason in America's streets, went a long way toward demoralizing the 
average American and sapping his will to resist the social and cultural 
transformation of America being orchestrated by the designers of the New 
World Order. From the point of view of the internationalists the Vietnam war 
itself (that is, the military and geopolitical aspect of the war, as 
distinguished from the domestic social and cultural changes which accompanied 
it) served the primary purpose of killing national pride in White Americans. 
Americans were taught that they didn't have the best fighting men in the 
world, after all: that little, Yellow men could whip them. They were taught 
that a large, White nation could be beaten by a small, non-White nation. 

The internationalists loved it! They also had quite a bit to do with ensuring 
that the war went the way it did, so that the desired lessons could be drawn 
>from  it. CFR members ran U.S. foreign policy and defense policy throughout 
most of the war and formulated both the overall "no win" strategy and the 
crippling "rules of engagement," which prohibited the U.S. armed forces from 
inflicting decisive damage on their communist opponents. (CFR member Dean 
Rusk was secretary of state from 1961 until 1969. CFR member Henry Kissinger 
controlled U.S. foreign affairs from 1969 through the end of the war, first 
>from  backstage and then as secretary of state, and was the single most 
influential policymaker throughout. CFR member Robert S. McNamara was 
secretary of defense from 1961 until 1968. CFR member James Schlesinger was 
secretary of defense from 1973 through the end of the war.)

What is the explanation for White Americans' non-resistance to their 
dispossession? Over and above the power of the mass media -- especially 
television -- to compel conformity with whatever is presented as "public 
opinion," there is the fact that White Americans were reasonably comfortable 
and reasonably secure during the period when we were being robbed of our 
honor, our dignity, and our children's future through the social, cultural, 
and demographic changes engineered by the internationalists in the past four 
decades. 

There have been periods of recession and periods of prosperity, but most 
people have been able to lead very soft and sheltered lives through it all. 
We have had more new gadgets and luxuries to buy, more new recreations and 
hobbies to distract us, than ever before. Despite the soaring incidence of 
crime against Whites by non-Whites, most of us have not yet been raped, 
stabbed, shot, or even mugged. Despite the growing threat posed by AIDS, most 
of us do not hang around with the kind of people from whom we might catch 
this lethal disease of degenerates and non-Whites. Despite the occasional 
spasm of revulsion that even the most Politically Correct television viewer 
must occasionally experience, most of us have been able to maintain a sense 
of philosophical detachment from the happenings in the world around us: it's 
not our responsibility, we tell ourselves; we're not really involved. 

The Material Consequences

More important, most of us have suffered relatively little material loss so 
far. Although the average standard of living for White Americans has been 
falling during the past two decades, the decline has been gradual, and we've 
been able to hang onto most of our material well-being even as the 
civilization our ancestors built for us at such great cost has been destroyed 
piecemeal. 

So now it's time for the rest of the pigeons to come home. Now it's time for 
us to experience the material consequences of our moral failure. Now it's 
time for the Clintonistas to talk openly of the New World Order and to unveil 
the final programs intended to make the sick dream reality. Many of these 
programs are economic rather than cultural or social, and they will impact on 
many of us who so far have managed to dodge most of the New World Order's 
incoming rounds.Actually, some of these programs have been in operation for 
many years, but now they are having an accelerated effect: practically 
unrestricted trade with Asia, for example. Let's take an in-depth look at 
so-called "free" trade and its principal consequence, the deindustrialization 
of America.Before the Second World War the United States produced most of the 
manufactured goods it used. We imported Leica cameras, some specialized 
laboratory equipment, and some chemical products from Germany; watch 
movements and some optical instruments from Switzerland; and an occasional 
Rolls Royce from England. For all practical purposes, however, we had a fully 
diversified industrial base.

A few years after the war Japanese cameras began displacing German and 
U.S.-made cameras from stores in the United States, until today they totally 
dominate the market: Nikon, Canon, Minolta, Pentax, Olympus, Fuji -- they're 
all Japanese. The two remaining U.S. manufacturers, Polaroid and Kodak, still 
market cameras with familiar, American names, but a cursory examination of 
the products of these two companies in any camera shop or drugstore will 
reveal that most of them were not made in the United States. After succeeding 
in establishing a virtual camera monopoly the Japanese began moving into the 
consumer electronics business: portable radios, television receivers, VCRs, 
pocket calculators, microwave ovens, hi-fi tuners and amplifiers, etc. Within 
two decades they virtually wiped out domestic production. The few U.S. 
consumer electronics companies still surviving have their products made in 
Asia and then put their names on them and bring them into this country to 
sell them.

The average American saw nothing amiss with this; indeed, he regarded it as a 
boon. More products were available to him, at lower prices, than there would 
have been if Japanese products had been kept out by trade barriers. The 
unhappy voices of the few hundred thousand Americans who had been employed in 
the camera and consumer electronics industries were drowned out by those of 
millions of happy consumers.When Japanese automobiles began appearing on 
American streets in large numbers in the 1970s, there was more of a reaction. 
The unionized automobile and steel workers were able to make their voices 
heard. They smashed Japanese cars with sledgehammers in publicity stunts 
designed to win sympathy for their plight. Even the politicians who had been 
bought by the internationalists got into the act: worried by the threat of 
losing union votes, they put on serious faces and talked to the television 
cameras about limiting the number of Japanese cars which could be brought 
into the country. The percentage of Hondas, Toyotas, Subarus, Nissans, and 
other Japanese vehicles sold in America eventually stopped rising. General 
Motors, Ford, and Chrysler pulled in their belts, fired a few hundred 
thousand workers, and announced that they would survive. Although the U.S. 
steel-making industry was hit hard and was forced to close dozens of plants, 
it also managed to hang onto life. 

The Rise of the Multinationals

All was not quite as it seemed, however. Americans were reassured by the 
sight of new Fords, Chevrolets, and Dodges on their highways, but in many 
cases not much more than the name was actually American. The Chrysler 
corporation sold Dodge Colts which, in fact, were made in Japan by Mitsubishi 
Heavy Industries. Under a Chevrolet label General Motors sold light pickup 
trucks which were produced entirely in Japan. Ford did the same thing, not 
only with some of its consumer vehicles, but also with its tractors. American 
farmers still can buy Ford tractors, just as they have for the last 80 years 
or so, but under the familiar blue and white paint everything is now 
Japanese. Even Ford's tractor service manuals are printed in Japan.

Japan is not the only country which has claimed a part of what used to be the 
American automobile industry. U.S. auto companies have stayed in business by 
having more and more of the work which goes into their cars performed outside 
of the United States, in order to take advantage of vastly cheaper labor. 
Wiring harnesses from Mexico, electronic ignition modules from Taiwan, seat 
covers and other upholstery from Korea, alternators from Brazil, speedometers 
and other dashboard instruments from Hong Kong: more and more of what is sold 
as "American" is made elsewhere and only assembled in the United States.

Thus, what formerly were American companies have been transformed in many 
cases into multinational corporations. Not just Ford, Chrysler, and General 
Motors, but Polaroid, Kodak, and hundreds of others have learned to beat the 
foreign competition by joining it. In doing so their interests have changed. 
They have jumped the fence and become ardent advocates of "free" trade 
instead of opponents. They have understood that they -- i.e., their 
shareholders and managers -- can make bigger profits, even in the face of 
foreign competition, if they are able to pay lower wages by doing their 
actual manufacturing outside the United States and at the same time are able 
to gain easier access to foreign markets. The world is now their market, and 
the world also is their labor pool.

At least, they can make more money for a while, until their principal market, 
the United States, becomes impoverished by the continuation of the process of 
deindustrialization -- and a while is all anyone counts on these days.

Of course, not every U.S. manufacturer can do what Ford and Polaroid have 
done; not every American company is properly situated for becoming a 
successful multinational corporation. It works best for large companies which 
already have a toehold in the international marketplace. It also helps to be 
in the sort of business which is very difficult for a Third World competitor 
to get a start in: the sort of business which requires a very large and well 
ramified industrial infrastructure. Among the last U.S. industries to succumb 
to Asian competition will be the aerospace industry.It should be noted that 
America is not the only industrialized country susceptible to destructive 
competition from "developing" countries. Japan is an example. Actually, for 
several years now the Japanese content of Japanese cars has been declining. 
Japan's enormous success in competing with American industry was accompanied 
by rising wages in Japan. Eventually Japanese manufacturers, despite much 
stronger nationalist sentiments than are found in any of their American 
competitors, were obliged to begin subcontracting substantial portions of 
their own cars and other products out to other Asian countries with much 
lower labor costs. Japan is just beginning now to succumb to the virus of 
globalism which once helped it to rise.

The Rise of China

The Asian country which has benefited most in recent years from the U.S. 
policy of "free" trade is China. The Chinese assault on American industry was 
not widely noticed at first, because the Chinese did not begin with 
high-profile consumer items, such as cars or television receivers. They began 
at a more basic level, first with machine tools and then with hand tools. 
They have virtually destroyed the American machine-tool industry 
single-handedly. 

In the 1950s the United States was the world leader in the manufacture of 
machine tools, with more than 50 per cent of the total production. Machine 
tools -- lathes, milling machines, grinders, stamping machines, and the other 
large, motorized tools used in factories -- are the most essential component 
of a nation's industrial base. Today we make only six per cent of the world's 
machine tools. In the last decade alone our share of the world's production 
has declined by a factor of three, down from 19 per cent in 1984. It's still 
dropping. In another five years we'll have only three or four makers of 
machine tools left, and they'll be making only highly specialized, 
computer-controlled tools. All of the general-purpose machine tools used in 
the United States will come from China or Brazil.

The same thing is happening to the U.S. hand-tool industry. If one examines 
the plastic-packaged tools and accessories hanging on the display peg-boards 
in any of the larger automotive parts stores -- the spark plug wrenches and 
screwdriver sets and compression testers -- one will find that somewhere 
between two-thirds and three-quarters of them are imported from Asia, mostly 
>from  China. With the larger tools -- hydraulic floor jacks, for example -- 
the situation is worse: the chances are about nine out of ten that one will 
find a "Made in China" label. If there are any U.S.-made jacks still to be 
found, they will be priced at about three times the price of a Chinese jack 
of similar quality. American manufacturers, with their much higher labor 
costs, simply cannot compete with Chinese industry, and they are being driven 
out of business.

For the past few years the Chinese have been moving into the production of 
low-priced consumer goods as well: the sort of household items that 
housewives buy in K-Marts or Wal-Marts. Because these goods are priced 
substantially lower than similar American products, consumers welcome them. 
They do not consider the fact that the well-paid American workers who 
formerly made such goods in U.S. factories are scrambling now to find 
service-industry employment at substantially lower wages.

The Chinese (including those in Hong Kong and Taiwan) and the Japanese are 
not the only Asians who are destroying the U.S. industrial base. The Koreans, 
for example, have had the U.S. clothing industry under attack for years and 
have devastated large sections of it. Malaysia has been taking a larger and 
larger share of the semiconductor industry for itself and is diversifying 
into cameras and other consumer items. Mr. Clinton has just invited the 
Vietnamese to join the feeding frenzy.

Lower Living Standard

There is a double significance to this transfer of American industry out of 
the country. In the first place, it lowers the average wage level of American 
workers, as they are forced to move from manufacturing into a service 
industry or into less than full-time employment. Depending on one's 
viewpoint, a lowered standard of living for a substantial portion of 
America's White population might not be a bad thing: certainly, having the 
world's highest wages didn't seem to improve either the morals or the civic 
wisdom of America's voters. Perhaps the unemployment line will help them to 
focus better on the important things in life. Meanwhile, the majority of 
America's consumers are not really interested in hearing about what's 
happening to the U.S. industrial base, because they're too busy enjoying the 
short-term benefits of low-priced imports.

These benefits are short term, because in the long term the 
deindustrialization of the country and the lowering of the living standard 
for factory workers will pull down the living standard for other segments of 
the work force as well. When the labor market is flooded with millions of 
former factory workers looking for employment in some service industry, and 
when the average wage level for these dislocated workers is substantially 
less in their new work than it was in their former work, eventually the wages 
for office workers, sales clerks, truck drivers, and cooks will be depressed 
also. The man who was making $14 an hour as a lathe operator before his 
factory closed was spending most of his earnings to keep a whole army of 
paper-shufflers, sales clerks, transport workers, and cooks busy; now that 
he's earning only $5.50 an hour as a janitor he won't be seeing as many sales 
clerks or eating as many meals in restaurants, and the paper-shufflers -- 
travel agents, tax accountants, and the like -- won't be seeing his name as 
often as before.

The Real Danger: Interdependence

A far more ominous consequence of the transfer of industry out of the United 
States is the loss of national self-sufficiency. It may not matter much 
whether we have factories for producing pantyhose and plastic hair curlers or 
we import these things from Korea, but it matters very much whether or not we 
produce our own machine tools. If the Koreans give us an ultimatum -- do what 
we say or no more plastic hair curlers -- we can laugh in their faces. If the 
Chinese decide not to sell us more machine tools, however, we'll be in 
trouble.

This, of course, is exactly what the New World Order boys planned. 
"Interdependence," they call it. They began selling us on the virtues of 
interdependence -- and the evils of independence -- as early as the 1950s. 
The New World Order is a system in which every country is dependent on many 
other countries for its necessities of life, and no country is independent 
enough to opt out of the system and go its own way.

"Free" trade is essential to the whole scheme. The controlled media 
deliberately have created the impression in the public mind that 
"protectionism" -- the regulation of imports through the imposition of 
tariffs or quotas -- is a corrupt policy which benefits greedy industrialists 
at the expense of everyone else. Actually, it is a necessity for national 
survival and progress. Consider the following facts:

  *   Merchants always will buy their manufactured goods from the supplier 
who will give them the best price for goods of a specified quality. If the 
best price is from a foreign supplier, and if international trade is 
unregulated, then the merchants will import their goods from abroad. On an 
individual basis the merchants really have no choice in the matter: a widget 
merchant who pays two or three times as much for his American-made widgets as 
other widget merchants do for their Chinese-made widgets soon will be out of 
the widget business. Being able to have "Made in the U.S.A." stamped on his 
widgets may help him a little with patriotic customers, but it won't help 
enough to keep him solvent.

  *   For most manufactured goods the cost of the labor which went into them 
is the largest single component of the total production cost. When one 
country has a much lower wage scale than another country, then it will be 
able to sell its manufactured goods at a lower price, other things being 
equal. The other things are labor discipline, organizational skill, and the 
possession of the necessary machinery and raw materials. Thus, Ghana, for 
example, could not compete with the United States in the production of 
manufactured goods even if it paid nothing at all for labor, because it lacks 
labor discipline, organizational ability, and an industrial base. China, on 
the other hand, has very cheap labor which is better disciplined than that in 
America, as well as the needed organizational skills for utilizing that labor 
effectively in large-scale enterprises. Furthermore, it has painstakingly 
built up its industrial base -- with our collaboration -- during the past 40 
years or so.

  *   When industrial production moves from a country with high wages to a 
country with low wages, the immediate effect will be a reduction in the 
difference in wages between the two countries. Wages in the country which 
gains the industry will rise, and wages in the country which loses the 
industry will fall. This will be true whether the production is in the hands 
of nationally based companies or a multinational corporation. Thus, if the 
North American Free Trade Agreement results in the Ford Motor Company closing 
a plant in Detroit and building a new one in Tijuana for the production of 
Fords, wages will rise in Mexico and fall in the United States just as surely 
as if the production had shifted from Ford to a company owned by Mexicans.

Evening Out the Poverty

What this means is that if an industrialized country which has built up a 
high standard of living for its citizens wants to maintain its industrial 
base and its living standard, it must regulate imports of goods from 
countries with lower wage scales. If it does not, its industrial base will be 
eroded, and its living standard will fall. This is a fairly simple economic 
fact, and most Americans could understand it if the proponents of the New 
World Order had not thrown up a smoke screen of obfuscation. They claim that 
there will be "readjustments" to be made when all trade barriers are down, 
but that in the long run everyone will benefit. We will import more goods, 
they say, but we also will export more, and everything will even out.

That is not true, and they know it. What will "even out" will be wage scales 
around the world. The rich countries will become less rich, and the poor 
countries will become less poor, and if the process continues long enough 
wage scales -- and standards of living -- will approach equality, which is 
what the egalitarian ideologues among the globalists really are aiming at. To 
them the present state of affairs, with White Americans earning 20 times as 
much as Mexican peons or Chinese coolies, is "unjust." 

Other New World Order ideologues see in the interdependence which will result 
>from  wiping out a number of strategically vital industries in the United 
States (and other industrialized nations) a sure way to prevent international 
conflict in the future. They have taught two generations of Americans that 
"cooperation" is a virtue in itself, and we will be a more virtuous nation 
when we no longer are able to act unilaterally: that is, when we must secure 
the agreement of the countries which supply our ball bearings and our 
computer chips before we make a major move in international affairs.

All of this is not to say that international trade is a bad thing in itself. 
Trade, like many other things, should be an instrument of national policy. A 
nation's international trade should be regulated with one aim in mind: to 
maximize the security and prosperity of the nation. Americans can hardly 
expect that of a government headed by a man who two decades ago was 
demonstrating in the street with other draft-dodgers, gleefully chanting, 
"Ho, Ho, Ho Chi Minh, the Viet Cong is gonna win!"

The only environment in which unregulated trade can be tolerated is within a 
natural community of interest: i.e., within a group of political entities 
which have a common sense of identity and a common set of interests, 
determined by Nature rather than by politics alone. In such an environment 
unrestricted trade usually is beneficial. For example, we do not want to 
protect Michigan's automobile industry from competition by an automobile 
manufacturer in Indiana or Texas. If Texans can build a better car at a lower 
price, then we, as Americans, are better off for it. If states could erect 
their own trade barriers, then we might have wheat farmers in Nevada able to 
make a living selling their wheat locally, at a very dear price. Without any 
interstate trade barriers, however, they could not compete with wheat farmers 
in Kansas and would be forced to give up wheat farming and go into another 
line of work. Competition throughout the whole country results in 
specialization in certain areas and increased efficiency everywhere. Since 
there is no danger that Kansas ever will refuse to sell wheat to people in 
Nevada, they are no less secure without a local supply and are free to devote 
themselves to activities more suited to their locale.

The Aryan World Order

We might even justify the elimination of trade barriers between a racially 
cleansed United States and a selected group of other White countries, under 
certain conditions. One of those conditions would be that all the countries 
involved would be subject to a single authority, so that there would be no 
loss of security resulting from the regional specialization which would 
follow the dropping of barriers. Such an arrangement might be called the 
Aryan World Order, and it is something worthy of careful consideration -- 
after we get a few obstacles out of our way.

The foremost of these obstacles is the currently emerging arrangement we have 
been examining in this article: an arrangement which, if accuracy were the 
primary consideration, might be given the name Jew World Order instead of the 
one by which it is commonly known. And a tough obstacle it will be. The Jews 
have a powerful combination in their control of the news and entertainment 
media and in the constellation of collaborators they have assembled in 
politics, big business, academia, and the Christian churches. 

Their media control is too massive and too deeply ramified for us to wrest 
away by any feasible financial means. A single, minor readjustment in their 
media empire, such as the current merger of Sumner Redstone's Viacom, Inc., 
with Martin Davis's Paramount Communications, can involve the transfer of 
more than $10 billion. Their collaborators are too many for us to 
assassinate. To kill even enough of them to frighten the rest into changing 
their ways is far beyond our means at this time. 

The only feasible strategy for us is to develop our own media of mass 
communication and then use those media to make everyone painfully aware of 
the true meaning of the New World Order.

Reaching the people with our message and getting any sort of response from 
them was a hard row to hoe in the past, when it still was possible for them 
to persuade themselves that they could evade any personal loss from the 
changes taking place around them. With the deindustrialization of America 
hitting more and more people in the pocketbook, the response is growing 
substantially. In the next few years, as more of the consequences of the 
ongoing destruction of America's industrial base impact on the standard of 
living of White Americans, we can fan that response into a revolutionary 
conflagration.

That prospect, of course, is what is causing the frantic effort now by the 
government to disarm America's citizens, beginning with the only weapons -- 
namely, semiautomatic rifles in military calibers -- which have any 
significant revolutionary potential.

And it is that prospect which imposes on us the very grave responsibility to 
do whatever is necessary to reach all of the people with the truth about the 
New World Order while it is still possible to derail this monstrous scheme 
and restore what is left of our world to sanity and health.

(This article was originally published in NATIONAL VANGUARD Magazine, PO Box 
330, Hillsboro WV 24946 USA. Fax # 304-653-4690  $1 for complete catalog)


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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American Dissident Voices
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National Vanguard Books
Post Office Box 330
Hillsboro, West Virginia
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http://www.natvan.com and http://www.natall.com

Program of 1st May, 1993

Survivalism: Response to Racial Chaos
(Adapted from an Article in NATIONAL VANGUARD Number 83)

What is one element that binds together those recent victims of government 
terrorism, the "Branch Davidians" and Randy Weaver; which also binds together 
such victims of government murder squads as Gordon Kahl and John Singer?  It 
certainly isn't their religious or philosophical ideas, which are all quite 
different.  I say that quite apart from these people's involvement in various 
social or political "movements," they are united by a common feeling that the 
current political and economic establishment can no longer be relied upon to 
protect or provide for its citizens.  In other words, these people were or 
are "survivalists."  You may be surprised to find out that more and more 
Americans are coming to similar conclusions, are losing the feeling of trust 
they once had in a government that more and more of us are perceiving as 
being "out of control."  Let's take a close look at this phenomenon, next, on 
American Dissident Voices.

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There's an interesting psycho-social syndrome which has been quietly growing 
in America for the past several decades, which has finally caught the 
attention of the establishment and the controlled mass media:  it is 
"survivalism."

Actually, that term covers a fairly wide range of phenomena.  The end of the 
survivalist spectrum usually seized on by the media, and usually presented in 
a very distorted way, is the "grab your guns and head for the hills" end, 
because it lends itself most easily to a sensationalistic treatment.

At the other end of the survivalist spectrum are the timid folks who wouldn't 
dream of grabbing a gun, under any circumstances, and are far too citified to 
survive in the hills anyway, but who have quietly laid in a two-year supply 
of dehydrated foods.  And there are all sorts of offshoots of this attitude:  
for example, the retired couple who have made up their minds to sell the 
family home and move into a condominium, but who are only looking at ads for 
places which offer a high wall all around with electronically controlled 
gates, closed circuit TV surveillance, and an armed security patrol on the 
grounds.  Or they may be looking at small-town or rural real estate instead, 
on grounds of the personal safety to be found in the parts of this country 
most resembling the Old America.

Of course, many people are attracted by real estate advertisements which 
stress security features, simply because they are aware of the rising crime 
statistics and want to feel secure in their own homes.  Perhaps they 
shouldn't be classified as full-blown survivalists, any more than the fellow 
who keeps a sock full of gold coins hidden under his mattress - just in case.

For many, however, it goes deeper than that.  Among the real estate customers 
looking for impregnable security are a few - a growing few - who feel a sick 
fear in the pit of their stomachs, the consequence not only of the soaring 
burglary statistics but also of the conviction that burglaries will keep on 
increasing, year after year, and that the police and the government will 
never again be able to offer any real protection to law-abiding citizens.

These few have concluded that, if they want to be safe in their homes, 
they're going to have to ensure their own safety.  They know they can't count 
on the police or the government for their protection any longer.  These 
people are survivalists.

And among those who are laying in a long-term supply of dehydrated food or 
converting part of each paycheck into gold coins, there are also a growing 
few who are convinced that some day - they don't know exactly when, but some 
day in the next few years - they're actually going to have to eat their 
dehydrated larder, because the supermarket shelves will have been stripped 
bare by angry mobs, or they're going to need those gold coins to purchase the 
necessities of life, because Federal Reserve notes will be worthless.  These 
people, too, are survivalists of a sort.

There is one element which is common to the entire survivalist spectrum.  It 
is a loss of faith in the System.

There has always been a certain amount of paranoia in the population, a 
certain number of people who deeply distrust the government and are sure that 
something awful is bound to happen soon.  The survivalist syndrome is much 
more than that, however.  It is today affecting probably millions of ordinary 
Americans, not just right-wing gun nuts or conspiracy cranks.  More and more 
perfectly normal people are simply looking very carefully at what is going on 
around them in America, and the sight is raising the hairs on the backs of 
their necks.

They are schoolteachers and truck drivers and physicians and government 
clerks who have to work in America's cities alongside hostile gangs and 
undisciplined minorities who are noticeably more numerous and noticeably more 
aggressive with each passing year, and they have said - possibly only to 
themselves - "My God, things can't continue to go on this way!"

Having also observed that their government not only is not doing anything to 
stem the Third World flood into this country but is leaving no stone unturned 
in its efforts to increase it, they don't waste their time writing letters to 
their Congressmen.  (That's a little bit like a European villager writing to 
Genghis Khan asking him to do something about the rape and pillage problem!)  
Instead many of them begin thinking seriously about the relative merits of 
rifles or shotguns for defense of their homes and families against the likes 
of the Los Angeles rioters.

Even some liberals are beginning to take note of what the policies they have 
mindlessly advocated for the past 50 years have done to the world, and it 
scares the Hell out of them.  Although they would never admit it to the other 
liberals they rub elbows and snort coke with at fashionable cocktail parties 
in Washington and New York, a few of them have also been quietly laying plans 
for a quick getaway when the day of reckoning comes.

My older listeners may well remember the fallout shelter debate of the 
1950's:  the Cold War era when the government was at least dabbling in civil 
defense preparations, and many citizens were taking the idea of a nuclear 
attack by the Soviet Union quite seriously.  Cellars were stocked, Geiger 
counters were purchased, and much hand-wringing was wasted on the ethical 
problem of the grasshopper and the ant.  Many of the so-called "ants" - those 
who had prepared and stocked fallout shelters for their families - indicated 
that they would not hesitate to shoot any improvident, grasshopper-type 
neighbors who came pounding on the doors of their shelters after an attack 
alert.  Predictably, the media pundits were horrified and were very much on 
the side of the grasshoppers.Some of the "ants" of that era might properly be 
considered survivalists, but the majority of them were by no means alienated 
>from  the System.  Many, in fact, were political conservatives who liked 
things the way they were and thought of the System as a bulwark against 
Communism and chaos.  That was before JFK, LBJ, the opening of our borders, 
and the "civil rights" revolution, of course.

Today, the all-out survivalist usually looks at the government as a primary 
threat to his survival.  Far from wanting to keep things as they are, he 
finds conditions increasingly intolerable.  He is intelligent enough, or has 
good enough instincts, to realize that the policies the U.S. government has 
been following for the last few decades are inevitably leading to disaster.  
He finds himself in a surrealistic, almost nightmare situation, in which he 
sees the people all around him blithely marching to their own destruction.

He does not know whether he is the only sane person in a world gone mad, but 
he does know that he does not intend to be destroyed along with everyone 
else, if he can help it.  He has become totally alienated from the 
suicide-bent society in which he lives, and he is looking desperately for a 
way to get off the boat and far enough away from it so he won't be sucked 
under when it goes down.

So, one can recognize three distinguishing traits in the survivalist:  a 
sturdy sense of personal identity, which allows him to think independently 
and choose a course separate from that of the herd; a strong will to survive; 
and alienation from the present society and the System which rules it.  In 
addition, many survivalists have a fourth trait:  an intuitive, spiritual 
rejection of modern society which goes beyond mere political alienation.

This last trait - which many who don't call themselves "survivalists" also 
share - manifests itself in various ways.  In some it is expressed as a 
desire to "get back to Nature;" in others it takes the more negative form of 
hostility to modern technology.  It is based on a feeling or intuition that 
the modern, urban-industrial "produce and consume" lifestyle is unnatural and 
unhealthy, as well as personally unsatisfying and even repugnant.

Thus, one finds among survivalists many with unusual dietary notions and a 
prejudice in favor of natural foods; a strong interest in useful, 
pioneer-type arts and crafts; and a tendency to distrust the medical 
profession with all its drugs and technology.

These attitudes are partially related to the survivalist's own interest in 
becoming more self-sufficient.  But they are also an expression of a 
deep-seated - even subconscious - feeling having more to do with instinctive 
behavior patterns than with rational thought about modern technology.  At 
root, it is not the jet engine, the computer, or "designer drugs" which the 
"back-to-nature" streak in the survivalist is rebelling against; rather it is 
the laws, regulations, customs, and constraints of our faceless mass society 
that rub him the wrong way.

For tools - even very complex tools - are not unnatural to Western man, who 
has been a tool maker and a tool innovator for a much longer time than he has 
been man.  What is unnatural is the way in which our creative instinct, our 
fighting instinct, our adventurous instinct, our mating instinct, and our 
territorial instinct have all been more or less frustrated by modern society.

Who is to blame for this?  To a great extent, we have made our society a 
prison for ourselves.  We have grown in knowledge and techniques far faster 
than we have grown in the wisdom necessary to best make use of that 
knowledge.  We have concentrated too much on the short-term, economic, 
consequences of our decisions - and all too often, we have ignored the 
long-term, national and biological consequences of those decisions.  In 
addition, our refusal to face the unpleasant fact that aliens and traitors 
have seized effective control of many of our nation's institutions has led us 
down a path that can only be described as suicidal.  What nation that wants 
to survive allows an invasion of millions of aliens to cross its borders 
without a shot being fired?  What nation that wants to survive promotes 
monstrosities like the North American Free Trade Agreement which promises 
only to equalize the living standards of American and Mexican workers while 
enriching a few financiers and schemers in New York, London, and Tel Aviv?  
What nation that wants to survive teaches its children that their own culture 
is evil and oppressive and that they must accept government-mandated 
multiculturalism?  America's enemies and our own sense of apathy and refusal 
to face unpleasant facts have put us on this road to national suicide, this 
road to non-survival.

Looking at it in that way, it becomes clear that those few American patriots 
who dare to speak out against these evils are survivalists, too, in a way.  
They want their nation and its people to survive, regardless of how they have 
arranged their personal affairs.

The fully developed survivalist syndrome might be personified by a man who is 
convinced that very hard times are ahead for Western civilization; who 
believes that with a little ingenuity and luck - and a lot of determination, 
hard work, and careful planning - he can personally avoid those hard times 
and survive physically while the blood runs ankle deep in America's cities; 
and who really won't be sorry to see the blood start running (whether he'll 
admit it or not), because he is alienated from the present System, feels 
threatened by it, and is looking forward to being rid of it.

In real life, of course, there are many survivalists who don't go so far in 
their actions or their thinking, who are not so "fully developed."  Even 
among those that are, there are still relatively few who have carried their 
survivalism beyond the hobbying and daydreaming stage:  a study of the lore, 
a stash of weapons, tools, and food, an occasional visit to a 
still-undeveloped home site in the mountains.  Their survivalism is mostly a 
mental life preserver, something that helps them alleviate the sense of 
drowning in the chaos that modern America is becoming.

Nevertheless, it is reassuring to see the survivalist phenomenon growing by 
leaps and bounds from year to year, just as it is reassuring to see the 
booming growth of the "underground economy."  Both are direct consequences of 
the growing loss of faith in the System by people from every socioeconomic 
level.  Both are hopeful signs that the days of America's enemies are 
numbered.

What is less reassuring is the largely individualist approach to survivalism 
taken by most of those presently involved.  Realistically, family-sized 
groups are entirely too small to weather what is coming.  If and when 
governmental authority breaks down, new groupings will move to fill the 
political and power vacuum.  We have already seen, in the wake of the Black 
violence in Los Angeles, governments negotiating with and acceding to the 
demands of, minority gangs that have become de facto governments in certain 
"no-go" areas of the city.  Individuals and families, no matter how well 
prepared, would be no match for these or similar gangs of marauders, who 
would certainly spread well beyond the borders of our major cities during any 
major breakdown of the food supply network.

An intelligent approach to survivalism would recognize, that while individual 
efforts and skills are important, it is vital for patriotic Americans to 
survive as a group and that for such survival, in-depth organization will be 
necessary.

We now know, after seeing what has happened to Randy Weaver and his family, 
who clearly broke no real laws and who clearly had harmed no one, and after 
seeing what has happened to the Branch Davidians, who, despite many dubious 
after-the-fact accusations, also clearly were innocent of any serious 
lawbreaking, that the government, for reasons of its own or at the behest of 
anti-American forces within the government, is willing to use massive force 
against those seen as maintaining an existence or a set of beliefs 
independent of the System.  This should be a lesson to all patriots.  
Firstly, it should disabuse you of the illusion that the government is always 
on the side of right.  Unfortunately, many government agencies are clearly in 
the hands of those who hate our country and everything it stands for, and 
others are simply out of control, willing to do anything to hang on to their 
power and privileges.  Putting your trust in such a system is clearly not in 
your personal best interest or in the best interests of our nation.  
Secondly, it should make you think very seriously about the strategy for 
national and personal survival which is most likely to succeed.

I suggest that decent White Americans ought to organize for their 
self-interest and survival, as we have a right to do and which many other 
groups have done.  Since we are not motivated by hate or by a desire to do 
harm to others, and since we still constitute the great (though shrinking) 
majority in this country, I suggest that if we organize in sufficient 
numbers, the lies of the controlled media about us will have little effect.  
Our resources, both in terms of skills and money, will probably be second to 
none once we are more united.  We will develop our own media outlets, to 
present our point of view to all our fellow Americans, of which this radio 
program is just a bare beginning.  We will abandon the public school systems, 
which are corrupting our children with One World, multiracial, and homosexual 
propaganda; and we will begin educating them ourselves:  first, at home with 
resources from the children's section of our National Vanguard Books catalog, 
and ultimately in our own educational institutions.  We will help each other 
and patronize each other's businesses.  We will form a social, national, and 
racial colossus so large that the system will fear to suppress us, just as 
they fear to suppress other racially-organized interest groups.

The first phase of this rational program for racial, national, and personal 
survival is the educational phase.  No people can survive on planet Earth 
unless they have a clear sense of who they are, where they came from, and 
where they are going.  It is precisely these vital areas of knowledge that 
the enemies of America are denying us.  Through control of the mass media and 
the educational bureaucracy, the haters of America have sought to destroy our 
history, our traditions, and our folkways.  They have sought to make us 
historyless, faceless serfs in their "New World Order."  It's not only the 
independence and freedom of White Americans that these schemers seek to 
destroy, of course.  Many in other racial communities will be victims, too.  
But it is the spirit and intelligence of we Americans that they fear the 
most.  That is why they work overtime trying to convince us to hate our own 
traditions and values, to denigrate our European heritage, to abort our 
babies in the womb, to accept homosexuality and racial mixing, etc., etc., 
etc.  The good news is that more and more Americans are waking up to their 
plan.

Several years ago I was asked by the editor of the patriotic newspaper 
National Vanguard to select the very best articles from that newspaper, and 
its predecessor, published over a period of twelve years, and assemble them 
in book form.  The result was a book which is spreading like wildfire among 
patriotic Americans, called The Best of Attack and National Vanguard.  I 
believe that there is no better book that you could read to help you 
understand what has gone wrong with our society, and the patriotic steps 
needed to ensure our survival.  I devoted a year of my life to the editing 
and production of this book, and I want every listener to this program to 
read it.  If all patriotic Americans were armed with the knowledge contained 
in this huge, 217-page, tabloid-sized volume, then the prospects for 
America's future - and indeed the future of Western civilization itself - 
would be 1000 per cent. brighter.  This book is available to you now as our 
Radio Offer Number 4.  Don't pass up this educational opportunity of a 
lifetime.  Send a donation of $25 or more to keep this program on the air, 
and ask for Radio Offer Number 4.  Our address is National Vanguard Books, 
Department R, PO Box 90, Hillsboro, WV 24946 USA.  I'll repeat that address 
in a moment.

With thanks for your attention, and hoping to hear from you this week, this 
is Kevin Alfred Strom saying goodbye until next week's American Dissident 
Voices.


Yours truly,
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All America Must Know the Terror That is Upon Us

National Alliance - http://www.natvan.com and http://www.natall.com


This is Kevin Alfred Strom.


All America must know the terror that is upon us.  Those words were first 
spoken by Dr. Revilo P. Oliver, one of America's greatest patriots, over 30 
years ago in an anti-Communist address he gave to the Daughters of the 
American Revolution.  I chose those words as the title of my presentation 
this evening because they encapsulate in one sentence the raison d'etre of my 
speeches to you and on the radio all across the country, for I am determined 
to speak the truth while I still have the right and ability to do so.  Thirty 
to forty years ago a few men with vision saw what was happening to their 
beloved country.  And a few of them actually put their reputations, their 
safety, their fortunes, and their very lives at risk to save their country.  
Many of them lost everything.  The surviving Americans of today do not 
remember them.  But by the time the anti-Communist movement really got going 
in the 1950's, it was already too late.  The conspirators which had been 
called but who are usually no longer called Communists had already entrenched 
themselves solidly in the government and the establishment.  The patriots 
were trying to awaken the American people to avert a takeover that had 
already occurred.  And the anti-Communists, most of them anyway, didn't 
understand that the forces they were opposing were far older, far bigger, so 
far above mere "Communism," and so unbelievably evil as to be almost 
incomprehensible to the Western mind.

It is this evil we face today.  It is this evil which sends our young 
children into ghetto hells to be raped mentally and physically and calls it 
"justice."  It is this evil which burned to death a hundred innocent church 
members, including seventeen little boys and girls and two pregnant women, in 
Waco, Texas in April 1993.  It is this evil which promotes the anti-Life 
philosophy of racial mixing and homosexuality to our innocents through the 
compelling and technologically sophisticated video images of modern 
television and so-called "music videos."  It is this evil which drops the 
mask of Communism and assumes the masks of Clinton "Liberalism" or 
Reagan-Bush "Conservatism," whichever is the most likely to serve its 
purposes at any given moment.  It is this evil which is erasing our national 
borders through such anti-American monstrosities as the North American Free 
Trade Agreement.  It is this evil which brands any and every manifestation of 
Western man's will to live as "hate."

All America must know the terror that is upon us.  Now we are told by our 
"leaders" Democrat and Republican that Communism is dead and we are entering 
a "New World Order" of peace and democracy and brotherhood and a "global 
economy."  Blue-helmeted soldiers, under the flag of the United Nations, kill 
those who dare to oppose the will of the new world masters.  Of course, it is 
all in the name of "democracy" and "international peace," and its all for our 
own good, of course.  If so-called "peace-keeping" troops kill you, are you 
any less dead than you would be if you were killed by anyone else?  Who are 
those blue-helmeted soldiers in Somalia and the Balkans and the Middle East?  
Are they Americans?  British?  Belgian? Egyptian?  Indian?  Russian?  Does it 
matter, since they're all under benevolent world control?  If the political 
scene in America goes in the "wrong" direction, will the blue-helmets come 
here?  Why not?  You who are finally waking up from your TV-induced delirium, 
you who are waking up to the fact that you have been manipulated and tricked 
and used and miseducated since the day you were born -- you are waking up in 
a world in which global power is in the final stages of concentration, in 
which the twisted dream that they accused Hitler of attempting, the dream of 
absolute world control - world government - by one group, is now being 
achieved.  They call this tyranny the "New World Order."

All America must know the terror that is upon us.  A world government is 
government from which you cannot hide.  No longer will freethinkers and 
dissidents find safe haven as exiles in neutral or friendly countries, for 
all governments will be under central control.  The old names and 
governmental forms of Britain, France, America, etc. will be retained for 
administrative purposes and for fooling us into thinking we have not lost our 
freedom.  Any government which dares to oppose this tyranny and assert its 
independence will find itself in the position of Iraq when that unfortunate 
country refused to instantly obey the edicts of the New World Order.  Picture 
in your mind the 100,000 Iraqis, retreating from Kuwait, flying the white 
flag of surrender, who were obeying the edicts of the world government, but a 
little too late -- so they had to be burned alive with firebombs.  If the UN 
orders Americans out of the Southwest to make way for a resurgent Mexico, or 
orders your family to share your home with a Third World refugee, or orders 
you to do any other thing, do you think you will have any more choice than 
those hapless Iraqis? You had better obey, and obey instantly!  Are you so 
stupid as to think you have a voice in the world government?  The UN, with 
its sham democracy, is only the visible periscope of the submarine, a small 
part designed to be seen by the public while the rest remains hidden.  For 
example:  Again and again, Arab nations have managed to get majorities in the 
UN General Assembly to condemn Israel's aggression in the Middle East, 
resolutions which demand that Israel give bank land stolen from its 
neighbors.  Israel ignores these resolutions, yet no "smart bombs" fall on 
Israel.  Israel's interests are sacred to the real movers and shakers in the 
world government, and they simply laugh at the parliamentary posturing in the 
General Assembly when it does not serve their purposes.

All America must know the terror that is upon us.  American troops go to kill 
and be killed in Somalia, in Iraq, and elsewhere with the approval and at the 
behest of the UN.  They go to kill and be killed to remove governments not 
approved of by our masters in New York, they go to kill and be killed to 
protect Israel.  But our borders are not defended.  We are literally being 
invaded by the tens of millions yet our boys in uniform are killing Iraqis on 
the other side of the Earth who never ever had the capacity to threaten 
America.  All this war, all this killing, yet Congress has not declared war 
since 1945.  Congress has not declared war since 1945.  I ask the question, 
does our Congress any longer have the legal right to declare war without 
first getting permission from the New World Order?  What answer do the facts 
point to?

All America must know the terror that is upon us.  The tyranny that now rules 
us is a tyranny of money.  The forces behind the New World Order virtually 
invented finance capitalism, just as they invented Marxism and Communism.  
They "believe" in nothing except power and wealth.  Communism and capitalism 
are to them only tools to enslave and gain the wealth that others have 
produced.  Did you know that the official headquarters of world Communism 
>from  the year 1872 to the Bolshevik revolution was New York City?  Did you 
know that the communist takeover in Russia was financed by Jewish capitalists 
like Jacob Schiff of New York's  Kuhn, Loeb and Company?  Reverend George E. 
Simons, who as the Superintendent of the Methodist Episcopal Church in 
Petrograd from 1907 to 1918 was an eyewitness to the Bolshevik Revolution, 
testified before the United States Senate as an expert witness on the new 
Communist government.  His statement can be found in Volume III of United 
States Senate Document No. 62, 66th Congress, First Session.  Out of 388 
members of the new Russian government, only 16 happened to be Russians.  One 
was an American Black.  And all the rest, all the rest, 371, were Jews.  Of 
these 371 Jewish Bolshevik leaders, no less than 265 of them were from the 
Lower East Side of New York City.  So you see, the Russian Revolution wasn't 
Russian at all.  Am I saying that all Jews are conspiring against our 
freedom?  No, I am not saying that.  Many of the front-men and officers of 
the multiple organizations of these conspirators against all nations are not 
Jewish.  Many are men of our own race and nation.  And some Jews have bucked 
this evil system and exposed the truth for all to see.  Benjamin Freedman was 
one.  J. G. Burg was another.  Read their books, if you can find them.

All America must know the terror that is upon us.  Let me read you some 
amazing quotes that have been rescued from Orwell's "memory hole" by 
courageous researchers like Robert H. Williams and Richard Cotten, some of 
them from very long ago.

>From  the Jewish World of February 9, 1883 we read:  "The great ideal of 
Judaism is that the whole world shall be imbued with Jewish teachings, and 
that in a universal brotherhood of nations - a greater Judaism in fact - all 
the separate races and religions shall disappear."

In The American Hebrew of September 10, 1920 we read:  "The Bolshevist 
revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of Jewish 
dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a new order in 
the world.  What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia ... shall 
also, through the same Jewish mental and physical forces, become a reality 
all over the world."  

The Jewish writer Blumenthal states in Judisk Tidskrift No. 57, "Only 
recently our race has given the world a new prophet, but he has two faces and 
he bears two names; on the one side, his name is Rothschild, leader of all 
capitalists, and on the other, Karl Marx, the apostle of those who want to 
destroy the other."

In the American Bulletin of May 15, 1935, Rabbi Stephen S. Wise stated, "Some 
call it Marxism - I call it Judaism."

In the 1912 book, A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century, the Communist 
Israel Cohen wrote:  "We must realize that our party's most powerful weapon 
is racial tension.  By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races 
that for centuries they have been oppressed by the whites, we can mold them 
to the program of the Communist Party.  In America we will aim for subtle 
victory.  While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites, we will 
endeavor to instill in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of 
the Negroes.  We will aid the Negroes to rise to prominence in every walk of 
life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment.  With 
this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin 
a process which will deliver America to our cause."  Israel Cohen wrote that 
in 1912!  Ask yourself!  Did this program cease when the Soviet collapsed - 
or does it still continue today?  All America must know the terror that is 
upon us.

In LOOK magazine, for January 16, 1962, David Ben-Gurion, the then Prime 
Minister of Israel stated his prediction for the next 25 years:  "The image 
of the world in 1987 as traced in my imagination:  The Cold War will be a 
thing of the past.  Internal pressure of the constantly growing 
intelligentsia in Russia for more freedom and the pressure of the masses for 
raising their living standards may lead to a gradual democritization of the 
Soviet Union.  On the other hand, the increasing influence of the workers and 
farmers, and the rising political importance of men of science, may transform 
the United States into a welfare state with a planned economy.  Western and 
Eastern Europe will become a federation of autonomous states have a Socialist 
and democratic regime.  With the exception of the USSR as a federated 
Eurasian state, all other continents will become united in a world alliance, 
at whose disposal will be an international police force.  All armies will be 
abolished, and there will be no more wars.  In Jerusalem, the United Nations 
(a truly United Nations) will build a Shrine of the Prophets to serve the 
federated union of all continents; this will be the seat of the Supreme Court 
of Mankind, to settle all controversies among the federated continents, as 
prophesied by Isaiah."  Perhaps one must grant some power of prophecy  to 
Ben-Gurion.  Or is it more likely that he participated in the inner circles 
of those who are bringing these supposed prophecies into being?

I think we should take the candid statements of these men, these highly 
intelligent men, very very seriously.

Another highly intelligent man, also Jewish, who was present at the very 
birth of Communism, a friend of Karl Marx, who wrote articles for Marx's 
newspaper, was the poet Heinrich Heine.  Heine wrote the following amazing 
words during this period, nearly a century before the rise of Communism as a 
world power.

"Communism, though little discussed now and loitering in hidden garrets on 
miserable straw pallets, is the dark hero destined for a great, if temporary, 
role in the modern tragedy .... It would be war, the ghastliest war of 
destruction .... The second act is the European and the World Revolution, the 
great duel between the destitute and the aristocracy of wealth; and in that 
there will be no mention of either nationality or religion; there will be 
only one fatherland, the globe, and only one faith, that in happiness on 
earth ...  How could the drama end?  I do not know; but I think that 
eventually the great sea-serpent (Britain) will have its head crushed and the 
skin of the Northern Bear (Russia) will be pulled over its ears.  There may 
be only one flock and one shepherd - the one free shepherd with an iron 
staff, and a shorn-alike, bleating-alike human herd! ... The Gods are veiling 
their faces in pity on the children of man, their long-time charges, and 
perhaps over their own fate.  The future smells of Russian leather, blood, 
godlessness, and many whippings.  I should advise our grandchildren to be 
born with very thick skins on their backs."

Is it not interesting to note that, writing in the 1840's, Heine regarded 
Communism as temporary, as a prelude to a raceless world of "one shepherd 
with an iron staff" and a "shorn-alike, bleating-alike human herd."  Did 
Heine in 1840 know something that we Americans are just beginning to 
understand?

All America must know the terror that is upon us.  Randy Weaver knows that 
terror.  For daring to be a free man, a White separatist, and peacefully 
living by his convictions in 1992 he faced the Federal hit squads of the New 
World Order, who cut down his wife and son.  The survivors of the FBI-set 
fire at Mount Carmel in Waco, Texas know that terror.  Their church community 
had existed peacefully with its neighbors for 60 years.  But because they 
believed in independence and in arming themselves for self-defense, they 
became the targets of the faceless operatives of our rulers out to make an 
example of them.

To determine the true rulers of any society, all you must do is ask yourself 
this question:  Who is it that I am not permitted to criticize?  We all know 
who it is that we are not permitted to criticize.  We all know who it is that 
it is a sin to criticize.  Sodomy is no longer a sin in America.  Treason, 
and burning and spitting and urinating on the American flag is no longer a 
sin in America.  Gross desecration of Catholic or Protestant religious 
symbols is no longer a sin in America.  Cop-killing is no longer a sin in 
America - it is celebrated in rap "music."  The degradation of beautiful 
young girls in disgusting pornography is no longer a sin in America.  The 
killing by the multiple millions of the next generation in the womb is no 
longer a sin in America.  But anti-semitism is the ultimate sin in America.  
But as things get worse and worse, we are losing our fear of this silly 
word.  We all know who it is that controls the wealth of our nation through 
their exchanges and counting-houses in New York.  We all know who it is that 
has deformed the minds of two generations of Americans with their television 
programs.

Ladies and gentlemen, as powerful as these enemies of our nation are, and as 
much as they seem to command the wealth and power of the world, they are not 
invincible.  Their evil designs run against nature, and whatever goes against 
nature and nature's god must ultimately fail.  They are only men, and there 
are far fewer of them than there are of decent Americans and Europeans and 
those of our stock and our culture around the globe.  Their international 
agreements and treaties that are taking away our nation's independence and 
prosperity are, after all, only words on a few pieces of paper and will have 
no force whatever once we awaken our people to their treachery.  Their armies 
and secret police are only fools and mercenaries paid with paper money, paper 
money which only has value because we are willing to trade our labor for it.  
Many of these fools will wake up and will come over to our side once we make 
them realize how they are being used.

Do not listen to those who beguile you with easy solutions, and beckon you to 
a populist or conservative playpen where the real life and death issues are 
carefully avoided.  Do not listen to those who would trick, sidetrack, and 
discredit you with crack-brained theories of lost tribes, Rosicrucians, UFOs 
or free energy, for such charlatans abound on the fringes of the patriot 
movement.  If you are to be a participant in the battle to restore our 
freedom and secure the existence of White children on this planet, you must 
educate yourself and become knowledgeable.  You must consecrate your life and 
your fortune and the spiritual power that resides within your breast to this, 
our holy cause.  You must support the efforts of those who are awakening our 
people to their danger.  You must not rest until our radio program is on one 
thousand stations and can be heard every day in every corner of our nation 
and beyond.  You must not rest until all America knows the terror that is 
upon us.

During the first American Revolution, in 1777, Simon Girty, a renegade White 
who had allied himself with Indians, led a band of 500 savages against the 
settlement at Wheeling, west Virginia.  The attack was sudden, but the 
families were able to reach the stockade in safety.  But at length, their 
small provision of powder ran out and they all feared for their lives.   
There was a keg of powder in a house in the town, and a brave young girl 
named Elizabeth Zane volunteered to make the trip from the stockade to the 
house under Indian fire.  Her stealth, her small size, and her courage served 
her and the townspeople well, for she returned unharmed with the powder, 
saving the lives of all the people of Wheeling.  Many Americans living today 
might never have been born if not for her.  We must believe, like Elizabeth 
Zane, that we can by our own actions determine our destiny, no matter how 
great the odds may seem.  For if we give ourselves up to despair then and 
only then will there be no hope.

~

You need to understand the nature of the forces which are shaping our new and 
frightening era.  There is no better way to educate yourself and your family 
than by getting a copy of our large and encyclopedic book, The Best of Attack 
and National Vanguard.  This giant-sized, illustrated, 217-page book contains 
all the best articles from our patriotic newspaper from over a period of 
twelve years.  We are offering you this book today as our Radio Offer Number 
4.  Just send a donation of $25 or more to keep this radio program on the air 
to National Vanguard Books, Department R, PO Box 90, Hillsboro WV 24946 USA, 
and ask for Radio Offer Number 4.  This book is the equivalent of a graduate 
course for patriots.  I want you to read this book.  Send $25 or more today 
to National Vanguard Books, Department R, PO Box 90, Hillsboro WV 24946 USA, 
and ask for Radio Offer Number 4.  Until next week at this same time, this is 
Kevin Alfred Strom reminding you that freedom is not free; free men are not 
equal; and equal men are not free.


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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In message <846450198$20263@atype.com> - "Bill K."  wri
tes:
:>Ian's Heroes ("We know nnnnnnnothing!" in a Sgt. Shultz voice)

Your pitiful attempt at sarcasism is ludicrous, since Sgt. Schultz was 
obviously a German and not on the side of the "Heroes." Anyway, in the 
present case, it's the Neo-Militia kooks that "know nnnnnnothing." Accepting 
situation, your joke makes sense.

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In message <847316943$10991@atype.com> - ddeming@geophysics.scif.uoknor.edu (D.
 Deming) writes:
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:>
:>In article <847235913$3582@atype.com>, GEQR17C@prodigy.com (Leo Walsh)
:>wrote:
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:>
:>> 
:>> If this program strikes you as sound and reasonable, then you are 
:>> probably the sort of person who might be interested in learning more 
:>> about the National Alliance, which is the world's foremost organization 
:>> in favor of White Nationalism and the preservation of Western 
:>> Civilization.
:>> 
:>
:>Questions:
:>
:>1.  What will happen to those who do not wish to leave?

The same thing that happens to Whites who don't want intergrated schools, 
workplaces, or neighborhoods. We would reverse everything, and make 
separation the "sensible" thing to do. Actually, if the government would just 
get out of our lives separation would occur naturally on both sides without 
coercion.


:>2.  Even if you believe that the black race is genetically
:>inferior to the white race (I don't, I'm just trying to
:>pose a question), what about the black individuals who
:>are superior to white individuals, or superior to the
:>average white individual?  Surely, you cannot deny that
:>these people exist.  After all, there are black Americans
:>functioning today at the highest intellectual levels in
:>all occupations (physicians, scientists, writers, actors, etc.)

We don't want to deprive the Blacks of their best people. After all, what 
kind of deal would that be for the Blacks for us to claim only the most 
capable to stay? Without what intelligent leader-types they do have, a Black 
society would probably degenerate into total mass choas and mayhem faster 
than you could count to two. 


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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In message <847324988$12141@atype.com> - "Hummer"  writes:
:>
:>
:>     Now I don't like these nazi kinder a bit, but this is sinking too low.
:> I resent you implying that a German Shepherd would get any where near this
:>gang of scum without trying to kill all of them.  

I have a couple of German Shepards, Blondi and Muck. Both descended from 
guard dogs used in the concentration camps. Both of them just love to chew on 
communists. 

I'd advise you to stay well away from them. They can smell a commie a mile 
away. I might not be able to restrain them if they get a whiff of you.

Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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Subject: Re: brianazi once again demonstrates basic nazi ignorance
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In message <847477136$22884@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com writes:
:>
:>
:>I have to say that I'd be hardpressed to find a better example of general
:>nazi ignorance than the following statement by brianazi!  - Arlin H. Adams
:>
:>In article <847412355$19484@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
:>writes:
:>
:>>Actually, the problem with South Africa is the White man's mistake of
:>>letting Blacks in the country to begin with! 
:>

What's the problem, Adams? Brian is absolutely correct. The Blacks were 
moving south at the same time as Whites arrives and were moving north. The 
only people who lived in what's called South Africa were small numbers 
of pygmies and hottentots.


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From mckinney@usaor.net Sun Nov 10 07:25:35 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Fed Plot Here on M.A.M.
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What follows is the blathering of a complete fool who doesn't know the first 
thing about what he's talking about. Let me add that everything this person 
says is totally false and nothing more than his personal feverish 
hallucinations.

As if I even need to say it, but, of course, the boob provides no evidence 
for any of his ridiculous assertions - because there is none.

Adams, from where do you dig up these people? 




In message <847490656$24604@atype.com> - a0003517@airmail.net ("Homesteadr" 
James Vallaster) writes:
:>Something is very wrong here. The presence here of these 
:>Neo-Nazis is a very bad sign. It means that this group 
:>is under attack, from a very powerful organization - the
:>U.S. Federal Government.
:>
:>It has now become quite obvious that the so-called 'White
:>Supremecists' didn't just 'accidently' stray into this UseNet Group.
:>
:>Their descending into Misc.Activism.Militia was an intentional
:>strategy whose goal it is to:
:>
:>1) Take this group over and drive out the real militia.
:>2) To totally discredit the Militia movement by leaving nothing but
:>    COWARDLY, NAZI SCUM here to cause more people to 
:>    mistakenly believe that the Neo-Nazis are Militia, which they
:>    definitely are not, nor will they ever be.
:>3) This move was initiated by the ATF/FBI, who now certainly
:>     have a ratio of 2-1 representation in the National Alliance
:>    and other 'White Supremecist' groups. So if Nazis are here,
:>    that means the Feds are here!
:>
:>These low-life, limited education, limited intilligence losers
:>are the perfect patsies for the FBI/ATF. That's why they
:>were used in the Oklahoma City Bombing to destroy and
:>discredit the Militia movement, and it almost worked.
:>
:>These piss jar, cum bag, bus station toilet boys have the
:>nerve to call for 'White Unity'. This is a completely obvious
:>ploy to divide and conquer. These Neo-Nazis have only
:>one object - to destroy the  good things we would fight
:>for, in favor of the ignorance and bestiality that they
:>worship. If they have a hand out to you, it means they
:>have a gun in the other behind their back. 
:>
:>It has been proven over and over again, that the
:>National Alliance and the rest of the Neo Nazis will
:>NEVER be allies with the Militia. Because they are
:>completely infiltrated by the FBI/ATF. They  will do
:>everything in their power to destroy the Militia
:>movement. They will try to encourage you to make
:>open,  racist comments to discredity the Militia.
:>The Neo-Nazis will get you to make  pipe bombs
:>or to collect explosive materials, because they
:>ARE federal agents who will BUST YOU !
:>
:>Stay away from the National Allliance / Neo-Nazi
:>trash, even if they are white-trash. They are not
:>very smart, they don't bathe very often, and
:>they have nasty little habits. But far worse than
:>that, take any given Neo-Nazi and you find
:>a federal agent
:>
:>
:>
:>
:>"Governmental Corruption Must Be Challanged"
:> "Homesteadr" James Vallaster
:>   2943 Oak Court
:>    Granbury, Texas 76048
:>     a0003517@airmail.net



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From mckinney@usaor.net Sun Nov 10 07:25:35 PST 1996
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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 96 2:04:23 GMT
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Subject: Re: Black Resettlement Program
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In message <847315088$10679@atype.com> - lordkano!@ghplus.infi.net (Lord Kano) 
writes:
:>
:>
:>Resettling us?  Black people have lived in this country on a permanent
:>basis for longer than whites.  Native Americans were here the longest and
:>nearly 90% of all American blacks are part Native American.  We've got a
:>much better claim to this country that a johnny-come-lately redneck hick
:>like yourself.

Ok, in that case, we'll put you on an Indian reservation.


:>When you're ready to try to "re-settle" us, make sure it's you who comes to
:>MY house.  You'll never get to enjoy your "white homeland".
:>

Another threat. Ho hm.


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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 96 2:33:03 GMT
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Subject: Re: Annazi - Keep Her as a Pet?
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In message <847324114$12028@atype.com> - "Hummer"  writes:


:>Or at least that's what the guys say
:>about her in the gruppenlatrinen.
:>
:>	Hummer

With a name like "Hummer", I'll bet YOU know quite a lot about what goes 
on in latrines.

You're a disgusting piece of filth. And I mean that in the most insulting 
manner possible.


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Subject: Re: Annazi - Keep Her as a Pet?
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In message <847318734$11361@atype.com> - medintz@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (Mike S. M
edintz) writes:
:>
:>
:>Whilst completely naked, John C. Stephens III said unto us:
:>
:>>I notice that Ann Daltyn never made it on the list of candidates for
:>>the Order of the Boot.  Should we start a new ban proposal or keep her
:>>around as a war trophy?
:>
:>Let's show her the door. If my GF sound that I was keeping nazoids as pets,
:>she'd be pissed.

Another typo by Mike. He meant to say 'BF'.


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From mckinney@usaor.net Thu Nov 14 09:38:32 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: ianazi publicly demonstrates basic nazi gullibility
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In message <847560845$28231@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com writes:
:>
:>
:>LOL! poor little netnazi!  whoever sold you those dogs also sold you a
:>line of bull to go with them - what few KZ dogs were left at the end of
:>the war were *shot*, as there wasn't food enough for all of the humans,
:>much less any to spare for dogs....
:>
:>Arlin H. Adams
:>
:>In article <847491550$24733@atype.com>, mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
:>writes:
:>
:>>I have a couple of German Shepards, Blondi and Muck. Both descended from 
:>>guard dogs used in the concentration camps. 


Arlin, you're so dense you can't even recognize a joke.


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From mckinney@usaor.net Thu Nov 14 09:38:33 PST 1996
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In message <847571617$29037@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com writes:
:>whoo hoo!  Jim really hit a nerve with that one, didn't he little
:>ianazi...LOL!  

Trust me, he didn't "hit a nerve." Its just that this delusion nonsense is so 
riduiculous to let pass without comment.


:>>As if I even need to say it, but, of course, the boob provides no
:>evidence 
:>>for any of his ridiculous assertions - because there is none.
:>
:>heh heh, well for one thing, about a week ago I posted a notice that
:>Militia Intelligence had confirmed that at least one of you little
:>netnazis was a fake...something you little netnazis all studiously ignored
:>at the time...starting to worry little netnazi?  now are you worried
:>because you *don't* know who the infiltrator is, or because you *do* know
:>who it is?  hmm??

Militia Intelligence? Talk about an oxymoron! Well, ok Arlin, tell me who's 
the "fake."


:>>Adams, from where do you dig up these people? 
:>
:>escuse' moi, but *I* am a libertarian, and Jim is a conservative populist
:>- we represent opposite ends of the militia movement...

You forgot to mention Wizard - a self-confessed Satanist.


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From mckinney@usaor.net Thu Nov 14 09:38:34 PST 1996
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Date: Mon, 11 Nov 96 5:33:06 GMT
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Subject: Re: MAM is about the militia, not race
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In message <847502292$25488@atype.com> - "Hummer"  writes:
:>
:>
:>     Ian, you're falling into exactly the type of hole any group which was
:>trying to gain or maintain control would want you to.  One of the primary
:>tenants of control is "divide and conquer".  The three legs which support
:>that aspect of control are racial hate, religious hate, and class hate. 
:>anti-Semitism is just the traditional approach to mixing all three into a
:>single control mechanism within Western societies.

I didn't create the circumstances which cause racial conflict. The government 
did. As I mentioned before, tens of thousands of murders and rapes are 
committed against White Americans yearly. The racial movement didn't cause 
that. There's already a race war going on in this country, and Whites are on 
the bloody end of it.

I firmly believe that multi-racial societies can't work and the government 
knows that. There was enough difficulty when we only had to deal with the 
Black-White problems. Now we have several other races thrown into the 
situation. These people, most of them, have NO interest in learning about 
George Washington, or any other of the Founding Fathers. They can't identify 
with them or the civilization from which they sprang. They would like to 
impose their own culture on us. And will if we sit back and do nothing.

No, I didn't create this mess, and I reject the notion that it is proper and 
moral to just hand-over the country which my ancestors created to a group of 
hostile minorities.



:>Your leaders have already agreed to the governments request for them to
:>help infiltrate the militia movement.  Why do you think your crew was sent
:>over here to mam ?  

Nonsense. It's absolutely absurd for anyone to think that the National 
Alliance is acting on behalf of any government police agency. Your statement 
is total rubbish.




:>To look for recruits on an open and well monitored
:>newsgroup ?  Come on, you were sent here to help determine which if any
:>militia groups might accept neo-nazi members, which in turn would permit
:>the use of existing undercover personnel to watch any such militia group at
:>the same time that they are watching you own group.  

Totally unsupported by any evidence. Absolutely untrue.


:>     That doesn't sound like you're working as a "part of a greater racial
:>community which is constituted of common biology, history, achievment, and
:>a sense of group solidarity and pride" to me.  Sounds more like you are
:>willingly or unwillingly being used to help ensure that the maximum number
:>of groups are infiltrated by the government with minimum number of
:>government personnel getting paid overtime.

This is not only untrue, but ridiculous.

What you're really trying is another pathetic attempt to discredit us. You 
tried beating us in debate and you failed. Next came insults. Then threats. 
You people even tried to use the transparent "commie" smear. And now you're 
trying to claim we're all government agents or informants.

All these tactics are garbage, not to mention childish. 



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From mckinney@usaor.net Thu Nov 14 09:38:35 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: How I see it.
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In message <847566190$28575@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com writes:
:>
:>
:>In article <847504293$25877@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
:>writes:
:>
:>>Arlin wants, as soon as possible,
:>>to get back to his nice, cozy, uncontested effort to transform the
:>>militia into an organization acceptable to the ADL and Southern
:>>Poverty Law Center.
:>
:>LOL!  last I heard, I'm on the splc's list of 'nasty dangerous militia
:>people'...LOL!  

Well, Arlin, they have to provide you with some kind of front, don't they? 
What better way than for the ADL to make "Arlin Adams" in a big threat then 
send you into the militia as an infiltrator?

Arlin, you could be on every ADL list ever published, but I know what you 
are. You're a liberal who supports race-mixing, homosexuals, Satanism, etc. 
The Establishment has no problem with those things.

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From mckinney@usaor.net Thu Nov 14 09:38:36 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: appology to Diana
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In message <847560863$28246@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com writes:
:>
:>
:>posted and emailed
:>
:>Hi Diana,
:>
:>my most humble appologies if we offended you or any of the other non-nazi
:>women on the newsgroup.  I'm sorry, but I thought we'd made it clear that
:>we aren't even certain that the person posting under the 'ann daltyn'
:>pseudonym is female...because the neo-nazis tend to have very
:>stereotypical, and negative, views of women, the poster is most probably
:>male...they wouldn't allow a woman to post on the net, except for rare
:>propaganda purposes. 

Utter nonsense. My wife and I just had the pleasure of meeting Ann yesterday. 
Trust me, Arlin, she's a 100% lady and a long-time NA member. The NA has a 
very progressive view of women and several are in top spots in the NA - 
unlike your neo-militia. 

By "stereo-typical" I suppose you mean that we expect women to be attracted 
to men and visa-versa, and that we reject the idea that its OK for women to 
be lesbians like you do. Yes, if that's your definition, then I'll plead 
guilty to stereotyping.

Arlin will say anything and has NO regard for truth, since his postings 
reveal a total disregard for honesty - he doesn't know what he's 
talking about. He may usually get away with spouting this nonsense about 
racialists, but with us being here he can't get away with his nonsense. 
Everything he has said about the NA is is nothing but lies and slander.

Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Thu Nov 14 09:38:37 PST 1996
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In message <847684084$4800@atype.com> - "Joseph M. Knapp"  writes:
:>
:>
:>ahabiz@aol.com wrote:
:>> so you're saying you are so far over to the statist left that you
:>> can't even perceive what's going on here?
:>
:>You mean in this newsgroup? I'm just catching up, but see that you
:>are involved in some kind of crusade to rid the newsgroup of
:>neo-Nazis. That's humorous because without neo-nazis, ultra-
:>conservatives, what-have-you, the "militia movement" doesn't
:>exist,...... 

No, no! According to Arlin and his synchophants liberals, race-mixers, fags, 
lesbians, and satanists form the backbone of his "militia." According to him 
White Nationalists have no part in the militia. Of course, all his notions 
fly in the face of my experience with the militia people I've met.

I'll make one exception: I did meet a hysterical, race-mixing, White woman in 
Ohio a couple of years ago (whom I now suspect was possibly bedding-down with 
the negro leader of a militia unit). She was outraged that we were 
passing-out NA literature. Out of the hundred persons who were given 
literature, she was the only one who objected.


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In message <847564383$28421@atype.com> - johannes@ix.netcom.com (John C. Stephe
ns III) writes:
:>
:>
:>A while back, someone posted a proposal for a campaign medal.  There's
:>a place near where I live that makes such things, so if everyone can
:>agree on a design, I'll see about getting some done up.  I propose
:>something along the lines of the standard campaign medal design, with a
:>small bronze disk hanging from a ribbon.  The disk will have a
:>swastika, with the circle and bar 'prohibited' symbol superimposed, and
:>the lettering "Misc.Activism.Militia - Anti-Nazi Cyberwar '96". I don't
:>recall the proposed ribbon design, if someone would be good enough to
:>repost it I'd appreciate it.
:>

Since when does anyone give medals to themselves for losing a battle?


Yours truly,
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From mckinney@usaor.net Thu Nov 14 09:38:39 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Thanks, Ian:The National Alliance is America's Only Hope -
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In message <847686785$4916@atype.com> - Simone  writes:

:>
:>
:>Thanks, Ian, for making the options clear for this newsgroup.
:>
:>This newsgroup either gets rid of the National Alliance or we become
:>a recruiting ground for the NA.  

Evidently you're terrified that the liberal so-called "militia" viewpoint 
expoused by the phoney patriots on this NG cannot stand against the truth 
and tenacity of the National Alliance.


:>And as I have continually said,
:>they already have their own newsgroup; they shouldn't take over this 
:>one.  If you've already voted against the ban, you might want to
:>reconsider in light of the following:

The National Alliance does not have "their own newsgroup." If 
anyone knows of an exclusive NA newsgroup, please let me know. If you're 
talking about 'alt.politics.nationalism.white', then you obviously 
know that anyone can post to that NG. Also racialists of the NA post to 
whatever NGs we deem appropriate. We don't have to rely on moderated groups 
that protect us from those with opposing opinions. In that way we stand on 
courageous ground.

Of course, Sheps, we all know you are certainly not interested in doing 
anything that benefits any militia. If you have any interest in protecting 
MAM from us its because you want to preserve MAM as flypapaer for ADL 
survellience. I hope that all true patriots have noticed the close working 
relationship between Arlin Adams and the America-hating Nizkor subversives.


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Thu Nov 14 09:38:40 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: brianazi once again demonstrates basic nazi ignorance
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In message <847566208$28617@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com writes:
:>
:>
:>In article <847551796$27515@atype.com>, mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
:>writes:
:>
:>>The 
:>>only people who lived in what's called South Africa were small numbers 
:>>of pygmies and hottentots.
:>
:>in other words there were other people already living there when the first
:>europeans arrived...oh and the original owners of the property weren't
:>white, either, were they iananzi...sheesh, you write it yourself and still
:>don't comprehend it....

The point is that these small numbers of pygmies and hottentots aren't the 
one's now in control of the White-created country of South Africa. The one's 
represented by the Marxist Mandella are of Central African origin. Their 
migration South coincided roughly with the arrival of the first Whites. So in 
that regard, each group had an equal claim in a territorial sense. However, 
its obvious that the Whites prevailed. Nonetheless, the Blacks contributed 
nothing besides some unskilled labor, which should have been done by the 
Whites. In South Africa we have a thumbnail version of what can occur in 
America if we continue to allow huge numbers of non-whites into our country.

Do you think that Mandella has any interest in preserving the best elements 
of Western Civilization? Hell no. Due to the stupidity of the Whites there, 
they lost their country - handed it over in fact - to uncivilized savages. 
These savages are now in the process of destroying everything the Whites 
created and, in the process, returning that part of Africa back to the 
squalor and backwardness of the rest of Africa. Chaos now prevails. Murder 
and robbery are now rampant and getting worse by the day. Once the remaining 
Whites are driven out, South Africa will become no different than all the 
other African countries that were handed over to Black control.

Who do we have to thank for this insanity? Number one are the White liberals 
and Jews who convinced the White South Africans that suicide is better than 
being politically incorrect. Of course, it wasn't presented in those terms, 
but instead was couched in all the liberal mumbo-jumbo about "equality", 
"brotherhood", and other brain-dead nonsense. Nonetheless, the end result 
is exactly the same: the end of the White people in Africa and the 
destruction of the only oasis of civilization in that savage land.

I'll bet you're proud of that, huh Arlin?  


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Thu Nov 14 09:38:41 PST 1996
Article: 45048 of misc.activism.militia
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Subject: Re: Q for those who object to Jews
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In message <847689497$5058@atype.com> - Laura Finsten  wri
tes:
:>>However, as far as detecting Jews, Whites if need be can require blood
:>>tests which will reveal certain genetic marker associated with
:>>Jewishness or Ashkenazi blood.   I talked to a geneticist and he told
:>>me it can be done.  
:>
:>Tell me how it can be done, Brian. What is the genetic marker?  What
:>gene are you talking about that only Jews have?  And what do you mean
:>by "Jewish or Ashkenazi" blood?  Do you mean Ashkenazi Jews, or do you
:>also mean Sephardic Jews?

Forget blood tests, genetic markers, etc. My wife has a nearly 100% record 
of detecting Jewishness. And that's not based upon blood tests but upon 
physiogomy, attitude, lifestyle, etc. If you required her to 
systematize her procedure I doubt if it could be thoroughly done; its more 
intuitive than anything. However, the fact remains that in over twenty years 
my wife is almost perfect when it comes to detecting a Jew.  


:>>Also, a 1/16th rule can be adopted as well.  
:>
:>And how are you going to verify this, Brian?  Are you going to require
:>that everyone show up with their family records and blood samples going
:>back 5 generations to search out the mysterious tell-all gene?

You'd only have to go back to great-grand parents. that's not very difficult.

Yours truly,
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From mckinney@usaor.net Thu Nov 14 09:38:42 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Which "KEN" is NOT among us...?
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In message <847504256$25838@atype.com> - pgissource@aol.com writes:
:>
:>
:>In article <847483484$23549@atype.com>, mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
:>writes:
:>
:>>Listing all the achievements of Whites would literally overload the
:>entire 
:>>Internet.
:>
:>so tell me, I(v)an, how many of those have -you- done? Or for that matter,
:>what of anything have -you- personally done and what do -you- personally
:>stand for? Or do you just rely solely on the accomplishments of others to
:>justify your own life? It's pretty sad if your life is so pitiful that you
:>must draw upon what -others- have done to justify yourself.
:>
:>Mr. Wizard

I've got a couple of engineering patents. Of course, I'll admit that's not 
really much. But we're not talking about any individual, we're talking racial 
groups and what they collectively contribute.

Anyway, at least I'm not a Satanist like you have openly admitted yourself to 
be.

Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Thu Nov 14 09:38:42 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Pennsylvania groups
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In message <847310612$10302@atype.com> - lordkano!@ghplus.infi.net (Lord Kano) 
writes:
:>
:>
:>In article <847163029$22326@atype.com>, dthomp33@aol.com (DThomp33) wrote:
:>
:>> Are there any in Pa.?? 
:>
:>Appearantly there are, but I've been looking for over a month and I have
:>been unsuccessful.

There are militias in Pa., but from what I know about them they aren't into 
race-mixing and liberalism. Some of the militia people there are friendly 
towards the National Alliance. I'll bet that makes a liberal like you gag.

Hahahaha!


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From mckinney@usaor.net Thu Nov 14 09:38:43 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Pharisaical Communists (was: Malicious Militias)
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In message <847500510$25278@atype.com> - joe@apk.net (Joseph T. Adams) writes:

:>
:>
:>
:>Brian Smith (sbrian@micron.net) wrote:
:>
:>: Many try to apologize for the ADL by saying it does not speak for
:>: Jews.  However, that claim is false as there exists no Jewish group --
:>: not one -- which opposes the actions of the ADL.
:>
:>That is not true.  Ever hear of Jews for Preservation of Firearm
:>Ownership (JPFO)?

The JFPO are totally insignificant to the hundreds of Jewish groups who 
ceaselessly push the ADL's liberal, One World, party line. That exception 
proves the rule.

Ok, let's see you name 20 Jewish organizations that oppose the ADL.


:>:  Also, Jews as a
:>: group accept the benefits of the ADL without protest, as the ADL
:>: enforces the Jewish agenda through threat, intimidation, spying, and
:>: string-pulling.  
:>
:>They enforce an agenda, all right, but it is not "the Jewish agenda." 
:>It is their own agenda, which many if not most Americans including
:>Jewish Americans reject.

The liberal Jews are 90% of the total number of Jews.  


:>Sadly, the ADL once did do needed and appreciated work in exposing and
:>keepin tabs on hate organizations such as your own.  

What's with this "keeping tabs" nonsense? Their activities include such 
things as instigating smear campaigns against anyone who says anything the 
Jews don't like. In the process they attempt to destroy people's careers and 
other forms of intimidation. They have actively promoted banning books, and 
lately they're trying to censor the Internet.

Somebody needs to keep tabs on the ADL. They're a menace to a free society.



:>It is sad that in
:>the process it became a rather formidable hate organization itself. 

At least you admit that.


:>But the very fact that it is such an organization - while most Jewish
:>people, like most people of other ancestries, do not hate - is PROOF
:>that it does not speak for the Jewish people as a whole. 

The Jewish Establishment has consistantly been anti-White for decades. I can 
only guess that vast numbers of Jews support that, since there's virtually no 
opposition to them within the Jewish community. That says it all. Of course, 
to them, they're not doing anything wrong, and likewise I'm not doing 
anything wrong by opposing them.


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From mckinney@usaor.net Thu Nov 14 09:38:44 PST 1996
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In message <847739906$7759@atype.com> - pkasieck@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Philip Kasie
cki) writes:
:>
:>
:>In article <847690386$5091@atype.com>,
:>Ian McKinney (mckinney@usaor.net) wrote:

:> I didn't create the circumstances which cause racial conflict.
:>
:>    You aren't doing anything to help it.  If you're not part of the
:>solution, you're part of the problem.  You're just perpetuating it.

Yes I am. I advocate racial separation. Its the only answer.


:>
:>: As I mentioned before, tens of thousands of murders and rapes are 
:>: committed against White Americans yearly. The racial movement didn't 
:>: cause  that. There's already a race war going on in this country, and
:>: Whites are on the bloody end of it.
:>
:>    First off, the vast majority of murders and rapes are intraracial. 
:>Most murders or rapes of Whites are committed by Whites.  And let's go
:>to the past, and to the present to a degree, since you say "yearly".

I don't deny that most White people are murdered by other Whites. However, 
that shouldn't be a surprise, since many Whites don't have that much contact 
with Blacks. In my area there's few blacks, so it would be physically 
impossible for Blacks to commit most murders. But, when Blacks and Whites 
come into close daily contact, and where the Black population percentage 
increases, we see a staggeringly disproportionate number of Blacks murdering 
Whites. At the present time Blacks commit proportionally 50 times more 
interracial crime than Whites.



:>    Up until the late 70s, the highest incidence of rape was of Black
:>women by White men.  Historically, most rapes have been of Black women
:>by White men, and that's not even including what happened during slavery.

I suppose you have some statistics to back that up? Today, 99% of interracial 
rapes are committed by Black men against White women. Are you attempting to 
justify this?



:>It happened all the time when Whites had Black women as maids, and I've
:>heard people in the South tell me that it happened a lot, as well as
:>White males being involved with Black prostitutes.

Regardless, I oppose interracial sex under ALL conditions. It should be a 
punishable crime whether committed by Blacks or Whites.


:>
:>: I firmly believe that multi-racial societies can't work
:>
:>    So you think that human ignorance wins out, I take it?  Sad.  The
:>only reason the US society does not work is ignorance.

Its human nature not ignorance. Why bother trying to force people to do 
something they don't naturally want to do? Its a proven recipe for disaster. 
The only way to force this kind of behavior is through massive government 
coercion and interference in everyones daily lives.


:>
:>: There was enough difficulty when we only had to deal with the Black-
:>: White problems. Now we have several other races thrown into the
:>: situation. These people, most of them, have NO interest in learning
:>: about George Washington, or any other of the Founding Fathers.
:>
:>    And just how many of these people do you know???  I might add, those
:>who have to go to school in this country have no choice but to learn
:>that.  Meanwhile, no one has to learn about the history of other parts
:>of the world.  Great double standard we have, eh?

Look, as I have said several times on this topic, I have lived for years in 
these heavily multi-racial areas. My opinion is based, in no small part, on 
my personal experience.


:>: They would like to impose their own culture on us.
:>
:>    Bullshit.  The only thing they want regarding that, from those that
:>I've met, is understanding of it.  Cultural differences are often
:>ignored, instead of embraced.  That's sad, and it's part of the
:>ignorance I spoke of earlier.  It seems that today, it's cool to be
:>ignorant.  That's one notion I've always rejected, and still do.

Today we impose cultural relativism. We regard some obscure non-white person 
as equal to a White person who made some significant contribution simply so 
the school books can have an equal number of non-whites and Whites. The fact 
that the non-white person's contribution wasn't important to our civilization 
doesn't matter to these liberal goofs. When they don't do that, they 
ascribe importance to an unimportant person, and thus distort reallity. One 
of the present myths now being rammed into kid's brains, is the lie that 
Admiral Perry's black valet was a "co-discoverer" of the South Pole. Oh, yes, 
Perry's personal butler is of equal importance to Perry himself. What a joke! 
The Black valet was simply along for the ride - insignificant to the 
discovery. There's a total distortion and a lie, done in the interest of 
political correctness.


:>: No, I didn't create this mess, and I reject the notion that it is
:>: proper and moral to just hand-over the country which my ancestors
:>: created to a group of hostile minorities.
:>
:>    No one has said anything about just handing it over to anyone. 
:>"Hostile minorities" my ass- you obviously don't know any non-White
:>people if you say that- either that, or else you've just categorically
:>treated them like dirt, which would explain why they would be hostile to
:>you.

The top hispanic organization, La Raza, has announced their objective of 
taking over the Southwestern US - doing it "neighborhood by neighborhood." 
We're in another war for North America, but Whites don't seem to understand 
that.

BTW, I treat them as exactly what they are: an occupying force.

Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Thu Nov 14 09:38:45 PST 1996
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In message <847684983$4851@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com writes:
:>
:>
:>In article <847681384$4698@atype.com>, mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
:>writes:
:>
:>>Militia Intelligence? Talk about an oxymoron! Well, ok Arlin, tell me
:>who's 
:>>the "fake."
:>
:>as I stated at the time I made the original report, ianazi, *we* don't
:>know which one of you it might be...all we know is that one of you little
:>netnazis is not who they claim to be.  considering the fact that your
:>movement has ten times the problem with infiltrators that ours does, you
:>might want to give that some serious thought....

Well, post what evidence you do have. Real evidence, not speculation. 

As far as infiltration goes, it seems like every week there's yet another 
militia group being set-up by the Feds. You people are so full of this 
shoot-it-out mentality that any Fed agent can draw in a bunch of your people 
just by putting-out a little sucker bait. If I ever hear about somebody 
talking about bombs and automatic weapons I automatically assume that person 
to be a Fed plant and avoid them. What the militias apparently don't 
understand is that we are in a psychological war at this time. Any attempt to 
go against the Feds with guns is foolish and suicidal. As a consequence, you 
have a high number of trigger-happy fools in your midst - easy targets for 
agents.

You're not going to win with this strategy. The only effective one is by 
changing people's thinking, educating them to the truth about our 
racial situation, restoring the sense racial solidarity among our people. And 
becoming active in what Dr. Pierce recently called "a revolution of morality" 
- a restoration of natural morality and a discarding of the perverted 
morality of alien liberalism. It means not getting absorbed in side issues 
like immigration, the Constitution, economics, etc., but to deal with the 
basic problem which CAUSES the side issues. We are in trouble spiritually; 
Whites have adopted the liberal and materialistic philosophy of 
hyper-individualism - every man for himself; we've lost the sense of who we 
are and our purpose in the natural scheme of things. This has got to be 
changed first before any lasting improvements can be gained. Of course, this 
strategy is far less exciting than dressing-up in camoflage and strutting 
around with AK-47s while entertaining hallucinations about defeating the 
government in an armed confrontation. Granted, our stategy is less glamorous 
and exciting to those hobbyists out there looking for something 'new' to get 
involved in, but then I'm not interested in playing adolescent games. I'm 
interested in winning - no matter how long it takes.


Yours truly,
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From mckinney@usaor.net Thu Nov 14 09:38:46 PST 1996
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From: mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
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Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 23:03:25 GMT
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Subject: Re: ianazi disavows nazi newsgroups...
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In message <847754298$8701@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com writes:
:>
:>
:>In article <847746184$8192@atype.com>, mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
:>writes:
:>
:>>The National Alliance does not have "their own newsgroup." 
:>
:>no, actually there are at least two nazi newsgroups...of course you've
:>sort of been chased out of *those* now haven't you ianazi...last I looked
:>it appeared that you little netnazis were beating a hasty retreat in the
:>face of net-wide opposition.  If you *really* believed that you were so
:>unbeatable, you'd be back there trying to reclaim your own territory...if
:>that's even possible for you.  

The idea that I have been run off the racialist newsgroups is merely a 
fantasy of yours. The fact is that I only post to these NGs whenever there's 
some news I think to be of interest to other racialists. I spend most of my 
time on non-racialist NGs. One reason for that is I have other interests 
besides racialism, but, of course, I'm always on the look-out for any lost 
racial brethren whom I can salvage from the hideous pathology of alien 
liberalism.

As far as "beating a hasty retreat", if that were actually true, there would 
be NO racialists on these racial NGs by now. Yes, I know how McVay likes to 
think he's really doing lethal damage to the racialist movement, but, again 
he's suffers from the same delusions as you. The truth is that McVay has very 
little impact on our movement, and his damage to the NA is non-existant. Of 
course, in order to justify both his own ego and the paycheck he gets from 
the Jews, he must regurgitate this cant, at least to himself, daily.

Arlin, let me be completely honest with you. Racialism is not something that 
you or McVay can ever hope to stop. Its a worldwide phenomenom that is 
growing everywhere among all races. The basic fact is that nobody wants some 
alien people dictating their culture. They want to have independance to live 
their own lives - whatever they may be. I am firmly convinced that in South 
Africa the Blacks know damn well that when the Whites finally leave that 
area, it will resort to the backward, Third-World condition that exists 
everywhere else in Africa. But, they will be in control of their own destiny 
regardless. I think that's only natural. My complaint is Whites have the same 
desire. They don't want Blacks ruling over them. However, these Whites 
foolishly gave-up all the things which makes life worthwhile to them. And, as 
much as I hate to admit it, they DESERVE what they get for being so foolish.



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From mckinney@usaor.net Thu Nov 14 09:38:46 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Research The Anti-Militia Movement?
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In message <49947_varange@crl.com_misc.activism.militia> - varange@crl.com (Tro
y Varange) writes:
:>
:>Matt Foster  writing [ 1825] bytes in <847737227$7586@atype.com> from nexp.crl.com!omen.cryptic.com!nntp.crl.com!howland.erols.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!uhog.mit.edu!grapevine.lcs.mit.edu!a
type.com!militia-request on misc.activism.militia said:
:>
:>> I am a graduate student in criminology considering a survey of the
:>> United States militia movement's membership concerning their opinions
:>> on law enforcement and the rest of the justice system.
:>	
:>	Better, why don't you study the criminology of the
:>	anti-patriot "movement?"
:>
:>	Their criminal record now and decades past is quite
:>	extensive.

I'll bet this guy is not a student at all, but an ADL agent - hell, maybe 
he's from Nizkor - out trying to obtain personal information on persons in 
the Patriot movemnet. Once they get that, they try to smear or blackmail you.

Nonetheless, I agree with Troy. I'd like to see some of these "grad 
students", who are constantly pestering us for information, do an in-depth 
paper on the subversion of the Anti-Defamation League; about how they 
defended Communist Jews in the 1950's; how the operate as a agent for Israel; 
about their dirty tricks and illegal spying operations against law-abiding 
Americans; their ceaseless promotion of gun control legislation; their 
censorship activities. I could go on and on.

Why aren't some of these college students doing research on these bums. If 
you want criminals look at the ADL - they're much more of a hazard to 
people's rights than the Mafia.

Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Thu Nov 14 09:38:47 PST 1996
Article: 45248 of misc.activism.militia
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Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 2:18:04 GMT
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Subject: Re: MAM Whimps' Ban Violates the Spirit of the Constitution
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In message <847442884$21091@atype.com> - Daniel Kuehne  writ
es:
:>
:>
:>I don't like the message that banning NA types would send. We would, in effect, be 
:>saying that ADL lackeys such as Sheeps and Pisscabbage are welcome here, but racial 
:>separatists have to be excluded. If anyone is going to be banned, let's start out with 
:>those two professional dissipators!!!  

Well, at least one of you realizes the hypocrisy of Arlin Adams, "Wizard", 
and the rest who have allowed two openly anti-militia persons to direct who 
is to have free speech and who is not. What a joke!

I guess they don't like our revealing that some of these people are 
affiliated with Nizkor : Adams says they were "invited" on this NG, and 
another has his email address linked to Nizkor. And let's all remember who 
Nizkor really is. They are certainly not in support of militias, the 
right-wing, racial nationalists, etc. They openly colaborate with the 
Anti-Defamation League, The Southern Poverty Law Center, and the Simon 
Weisenthal Center - all of which are fanatical enemies of ALL factions of the 
Patriot movement.

Who's really fooling who? For one, I am not fooled. It would make no 
difference to me whether I might have a significant disagreement with someone 
else in the movemnent, I wouldn't under any circumstances go to Nizkor for 
help (that is, unless I was an agent and on friendly terms).

If none of you have the brains to see what's going on here, then you're too 
stupid to be a Patriot.

I may have serious disageements with several people on this NG, and I even 
have serious differences as to tactics and strategy being used by the 
militias, but what I am NOT is a traitor who buddies-up to someone like 
Nizkor, the ADL, or any other enemy of America. That is something that 
neither I, nor anyone I know who's affiliated with the NA would ever do.

It's up to each of you to decide for yourself who's being honest and who's 
lying. For myself, I stand by my eternal opposition, both in word and action, 
to the enemies of both America and our race. 



Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Thu Nov 14 09:38:48 PST 1996
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 15:48:16 GMT
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Subject: Re: Black Resettlement Program
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In message <847651696$3043@atype.com> - Laura Finsten  writes:
:>
:>
:>kgrubb@ix.netcom.com (Ken Grubb) wrote:
:>
:>[...]
:>
:>>That might take a while.  First we gotta find a Nazi Ninny who CAN
:>>count to two.
:>
:>That shouldn't be so hard.  If you can train them to wiggle one toe
:>for each functioning brain cell...

Hell, Finstein, that would still be one more than you have.



:>"If I can't dance.....I don't want to be part of your revolution."
:>          Emma Goldman

More Commie-Jew crap. Emma Goldman, she used to write for the Communists 
paper, _New Masses_.

Well, at least you admit to being a commie. 


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Thu Nov 14 09:38:49 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: The Racial Double Standard
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In message <847831685$12849@atype.com> - smaceach@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Scott MacE
achern) writes:
:>
:>
:>Reinzi@dreamon.com wrote:
:>
:>[snip]
:>
:>Nice to see that Nazis are just as dumb on radio as on the Internet.
:>

The preceding is the typical refutation you'll see from the Neo-Militia - 
forget facts, logic, and honesty. Just keep-up the personal insults.

Scotty Boy, you're a real piece of work.


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From mckinney@usaor.net Thu Nov 14 09:38:50 PST 1996
Article: 45302 of misc.activism.militia
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 15:18:12 GMT
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Subject: Re: Pennsylvania groups
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In message <847835290$13014@atype.com> - charri3122@aol.com writes:
:>
:>
:>Arlin Adams  has nothing to do with the P.A militia but he is right racist
:>are not part of any militia,

Oh, bullshit. the majority of persons I know who're connected with a 
militia are racial. Even if they're not as racially aware as I am, they are 
certainly keen to the Jewish situation.

I'll bet that a high percentage of Militia people read the Spotlight 
newspaper - even a lot of Perot supporters do that. Regardless, of any 
personal criticism I might have for its publisher, Willis Carto, the fact 
remains that the Spotlight is fervently anti-Zionist and to a 
lesser degree pro-White. There's no denying that.

Another popular publication read by militia people is Media Bypass magazine. 
MB is certainly no friend of the Jewish Establishment and has Christian 
Identity people working for it. I know the publisher personally. MB has 
friendly relations with members of the NA. Even though MB's publisher and I 
have significant differences of opinion, I still regard him as an honest man 
who also respects others opinions - unlike some of the phoneys on M.A.M. He 
respects free speech enough that he carries the NA's radio show on his 
sattelite, even though he doesn't necessarily agree with all its content.

In other words, don't try to give me any crap about "all the militias."


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Thu Nov 14 09:38:51 PST 1996
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 96 1:18:16 GMT
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Subject: Re: Q for those who object to Jews
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In message <847838903$13284@atype.com> - medintz@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (Mike S. 
Medintz) writes:

:>Aside from the fact that relatively few adults have surviving g-gps, and
:>nobody that I know has all four grandparents still alive.


Photographs of great-grandparents, grandparents, and parents could be used. 
That alone would probably provide enough information. For example, if someone 
has grandparents with light eyes and hair with standard European features, 
then there would be little chance of any Negroid or Asian blood. Jewishness 
might pose a slightly more difficult problem, but, in that case, additional 
factors would be considered.

Regardless, as White Nationalists, it will be OUR responsibility to determine 
"Whiteness" by OUR standards when the circumstances require it. Rest assured 
that we will not be relying on the opinions of liberals to make that 
decision. In that regard, we don't care whether you think races exist, or the 
basis upon which such race is determined. The problem would be simplified by 
several factors:

First, we have the likely situation that very few, if any, mongrels will 
be involved in the White Nationalist struggle. So, the problem will not be 
significant to begin with.

Secondly, anyone who's mind is not beclouded by liberal nonsense with regard 
to race will have little trouble making determinations.

Third, even if a tiny number of minimally racially contaminated Whites do 
make it past our determination, the net effect, even in that case, would also 
be insignificant.

The bottom line remains that it will be White Nationalists who alone 
determine racial classification. It won't be that difficult. Really, it's the 
least of our worries.

Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Thu Nov 14 09:38:51 PST 1996
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 21:48:03 GMT
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In message <846712085$10301@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) writes:

:>That's EVERY human being billynazi,
:>regardless of race, ethnicity, religious beliefs, gender, or anything
:>else.  

Does that include pedophiles? After all, they get their "happiness" by 
molesting kids. Remember, you did say "or anything else." Oh, I suspect you 
would deny that. But, what if tomorrow the Supreme Court legalized 
pedophilia? Would you then allow them into your sacred "Militia?"


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From mckinney@usaor.net Thu Nov 14 09:38:52 PST 1996
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In message <847919913$18155@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com writes:
:>
:>
:>In article <847895583$16342@atype.com>, mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
:>writes:
:>
:>>Can you tell me that WWI was fought for America's interests?
:>
:>absolutely!

I want to hear this. And please be specific about exactly what American 
interests were being furthered. A status quo anti-basis armastice was being 
considered by England and Germany. Our entry into the war prolonged it.

Now, I know that Jewish interests were advanced with the Balflour Declaration 
- the main reason we got involved, and which was carried-out through the 
instigation of Louis Brandeis and Bernard Baruch who were operating on behalf 
of other Zionists.


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From mckinney@usaor.net Fri Nov 15 08:37:13 PST 1996
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In message <847824485$12165@atype.com> - Lissa Valerian  writes:
:>
:>
:>
:>For all of you who spent yesterday posting, and *NOT* participating in
:>activities to honor our VETS:    SHAME ON YOU!
:>
:>I don't care if you approve of what those vets did, or what our government
:>sent them to do, but we *DO* owe our freedoms to each and every one of
:>those Veterans who fought on foreign soil to defend the ideals of freedom
:>and liberty.   If you didn't do at least *SOMETHING* to honor our vets,
:>how dare you call yourself patriotic!
:>
:>Lissa
:>

Perhaps you might spend Veteran's Day contemplating all those well-meaning 
veterans who's blood was spilled in useless wars fought for the benefit of 
International Financial Interests and for the benefit of Jewry. I don't fault 
the vet's patriotism, but with the record of the Washington Criminals, going 
off to sacrifice one's life in a useless money war is not a productive use of 
lives and resources. Actually, Veteran's Day ought to be a day that we all 
piss on the graves of the politicians and traitors who caused these 
senseless wars. 

Can you tell me that WWI was fought for America's interests?

Hardly anyone can come-up with any legitiment reason why we got involved in 
that mess. THe main catylists were the banking establishment and the Zionists.


Do you honestly think Hitler was actually a threat to America?

Hitler had neither the desire nor the ability to threaten America. In that 
war we actually fought to preserve Communism and to protect Jewish interests.


Do you think Korea was a threat to America......Vietnam?

Both were meat-grinder, no-win, wars fought with no legitiment 
American objective and only wasted the lives of our best men.


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Fri Nov 15 08:37:16 PST 1996
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In message <847932484$18905@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com writes:
:>
:>
:>In article <847921683$18305@atype.com>, mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
:>writes:
:>
:>>In message <846712085$10301@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) writes:
:>>
:>>:>That's EVERY human being billynazi,
:>>:>regardless of race, ethnicity, religious beliefs, gender, or anything
:>>:>else.  
:>>
:>>Does that include pedophiles? After all, they get their "happiness" by 
:>>molesting kids. Remember, you did say "or anything else." Oh, I suspect
:>you 
:>>would deny that. But, what if tomorrow the Supreme Court legalized 
:>>pedophilia? Would you then allow them into your sacred "Militia?"
:>
:>here goes ianazi with the nonsense questions again...look, little netnazi,
:>I realize these sorts of sophomoric pseudo-logic baffle you, but the
:>reality is that pedophilia always has been and always will be a crime in
:>this country. 

Well, one hundred years ago I doubt whether anyone would have ever dreamed 
that the sodomy laws would be over-turned or cast aside. The same with 
anti-misegination laws.

I didn't just use the example of pedophiles to be cute. The faggot lobby has 
been campaigning for years to have the "age of consent" laws changed to allow 
adults to have sex with persons of 14 years old and possibly lower. Of 
course, any rational person knows what these perverts are really wanting: 
legaized pedophilia.

So let's say that the faggots are successful and the courts rule that adults 
having sex with minors is ok. Since the Supreme Court says it, it is 
therefore "Constitutional." And you hold the Constitution - according to 
its contemporary interpretation - as your guide, then you must therefore make 
allowances for pedophiles in your Militia (just like you have for race-mixers 
and homosexuals).

See, Arlin, this is the trap you set for yourself by basing your morality on 
the shifting sands of a fluctuating Constitution.

You mentioned "internalized standards". Well, mine tell me that homosexuality 
and race-mixing are unnatural and evil. I guess it really just amounts to my 
standards being a somewhat higher than yours.

Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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In message <847996420$22431@atype.com> - e142857@teleport.com (Walter Ulrich) w
rites:
:>
:>
:>>   Joseph Pothier  writes:
:>>  Mary Heffernan wrote:
:> 
:>>  > Tonight's episode on Star Trek: Voyager was part 2 of a 2-parter episode
:>  
:>>  <>
:>  
:>>  > The scene was presented with the militia members being portrayed as
:>>  > dumb, backward, wacky and gun-happy.
:>  
:>Sure, Hollyweird needs a constant pool of "enemies" and "villians"
:>to pit its "heroes" against, but the historic bad guys: negroes, Jews,
:>arabs, Germans, Japs, Mexicans all have formed organizations 
:>which yell and threaten if a given movie portrays them in a nasty
:>way....

Hollywood depicting Jews as villians??? Give me a break. Please name 5 movies 
that had obviously Jewish characters as bad guys.

Of course, Germans are almost universally depicted as rotten by 
Jew-controlled Hollywood. And don't bother complaining that Jews don't 
control Hollywood, Marlon Brando, Michael Medved and Dolly Parton have all 
recently confirmed that. (As if we needed it confirmed.)


the average screen writer has about as much imagination
:>as as a turnip....

The average screen writer is usually Jewish, along with most producers, a 
preponderance of movie company CEOs and directors.

Yours truly,
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In message <847935236$19200@atype.com> - Kaa Byington  writes:
:>
:>
:>james vallaster wrote:
:>> 
:>>                         Scary?
:>> 
:>>                                 ...........Homesteadr
:>
:>No, just dumb.  The truth of the matter is that the Reagan Administration 
:>by denying family planning funding (thanks to the Christian Right) 
:>actually caused an estimated 30 million more  births in the third world.

I'm glad to see that you also think more births in the Third-world is a bad 
thing. Hang in there Kaa, we'll make a racialist out of you yet.


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In message <846886683$1340@atype.com> - smaceach@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Scott MacEa
chern) writes:
:>
:>
:>"Bill K."  wrote:
:>
:>>I am finding it more difficult to respond to Ian.  It feels like talking
:>>to a television.  
:>>
:>>Where is that damn remote, Sheldon??
:>>
:>
:>Really? To me it feels like talking to the remote.
:>

So that's what you feel like when you can't refute a point? Kinda makes you 
feel truly powerless, doesn't it.


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In message <847928003$18718@atype.com> - pkasieck@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Philip Kasi
ecki) writes:
:>
:>
:>In article <847816385$11477@atype.com>,
:>Ian McKinney (mckinney@usaor.net) wrote:
:>: In message <847739906$7759@atype.com>
:>: pkasieck@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Philip Kasiecki) writes:
:>: :>In article <847690386$5091@atype.com>,
:>: :>Ian McKinney (mckinney@usaor.net) wrote:
:>
:>: :>>I didn't create the circumstances which cause racial conflict.
:>
:>: :>    You aren't doing anything to help it.  If you're not part of the
:>: :>solution, you're part of the problem.  You're just perpetuating it.
:>
:>: Yes I am. I advocate racial separation. Its the only answer.
:>
:>    For a minute, that looked funny, because it would appear that you
:>said "yes I am" to my last statement there, which would be true.
:>    Separatism is *not* the answer.  For one, it would not solve every
:>division we have in this society.  

I don't claim it will solve ALL divisions or problems, but it will solve the 
current racial dilemna of non-whites blaming Whites for all their problems; 
it will alleviate the financial burden from Whites having to support all the 
special benefits given to non-whites, it would solve the interracial crime 
problem - just to name a few.



:>which in
:>turn would reinforce patriarchal and homophobic power- in other words,
:>it would perpetuate sexism and homophobia, issues ignored by this.

Actually, separatism would have less of an impact on what you call "sexism." 
I'm not quite sure how you connect racial separatism with sexism. I grant you 
though that a racial separatist nation would certainly suppress homosexuality 
- at least in the sense that homosexuality would be regarded as abnormal and 
certainly wouldn't be promoted merely as an "alternate lifestyle."



:>    Separatism rests on ridiculous notions.  One is the notion that all
:>Whites are perfectly compatible, all Blacks are perfectly compatible,
:>and that people of two different "races" are not at all compatible-
:>that's polarization.

On the whole, whites are more compatable with whites, and blacks more 
compatable with blacks. That's obvious since nearly all whites tend to 
associate mostly with other whites and blacks do likewise.

:>  Now, here you are, saying that
:>everything will be all fine and dandy if every place is a separate,
:>homogeneous nation- which is ridiculous.

Again, not "fine and dandy", but certainly better.



:> At the present
:>: time Blacks commit proportionally 50 times more interracial crime
:>: than Whites.
:>
:>    Cite the source please; while I've heard disproportionate numbers on
:>this, they've never even approached that.  

Go to my web page - http://www.usaor.net/users/mckinney. Look under "Hate 
Crimes." It gives all the stats and sources.


:>: Today, 99% of interracial rapes are committed by Black men against
:>: White women.
:>
:>    That figure is impossible to believe; cite the source, please.
:>

That percentage came from the FBI Uniform Crime Report. I think the figures 
were mentioned a couple of years ago in articles by William Buckley and Pat 
Buchanan.

:>: Regardless, I oppose interracial sex under ALL conditions. It should be
:>: a punishable crime whether committed by Blacks or Whites.
:>
:>    I'd like for you to give me a good reason for this, because I don't
:>know what's wrong with it.  Also, what about sex between, say, a Black
:>and an Asian?  An Asian and a Hispanic?  A Hispanic and an East Indian?

It destroys unique races which were created by Nature (or God). It 
usually lowers the intelligence of Whites at least when they mix with 
Blacks. And it has historically been the precursor to the collapse of 
civilizations. 



:>    I have to give you credit for one thing- you do a great job of
:>trying to reframe the discussion to suit your agenda by whining.  But it
:>won't work.

:>    It most certainly *is* ignorance.  I thought humans were supposed to
:>be superior to all other living things.  Yet, there are more divisions
:>amongst us than there are in a calculus textbook.  :-)  Animals don't
:>have the same kind of divisions, and don't see differences like humans
:>do.  They don't let it divide them.

Evidently you've never heard of animal species? Jeez, animals are divided and 
sub-divided into millions of categories.


:>    The very reason why this division continues on is ignorance.  People
:>are afraid of differences between themselves and others.  They don't
:>want to embrace and learn about them; rather, they're content to just
:>take the easy way out, by just forming a judgement based on a
:>stereotype.  That's *so* easy to do.  It's also ignorant.  

Very often stereotypes are based on reasonable precepts. Anyway, if there is 
widespread fear of people different from ourselves, then I accept that is due 
to some psychological predisposition common to all humans. Actually, I 
believe that to be the case, so why plan a society where you have to 
constantly combat this basic human characteristic. It's kind of like putting 
men and women together and then trying to suppress sexual contact between the 
two. I guess you've heard of the book _1984_? 


:>People are people.  No two people are alike.  

Talk about contradicting yourself! I might add that I agree with the 
latter statement, and also add that no two races are alike.


:>: The only way to force this kind of behavior is through massive
:>: government coercion and interference in everyones daily lives.
:>
:>    What was that about interracial sex being a punishable crime?  Shit,
:>that's government interference in people's daily lives!  You've just
:>contradicted yourself!

The mere criminalization of interracial sex would be far less than the 
present coercion faced by Whites in such areas as forced integration. 



:>: Look, as I have said several times on this topic, I have lived for
:>: years in these heavily multi-racial areas. My opinion is based, in no
:>: small part, on my personal experience.
:>
:>    I speak largely from my own experience; somehow, I don't believe
:>that you do.

Well, you can chose not to believe me - that's your choice, but having lived 
in Tampa, Fla. and Houston, Tx., for a combined total of over 15 years, I 
think I've had quite enough experience with multi-racial societies to make 
such determinations.

:>: The top hispanic organization, La Raza, has announced their objective
:>: of taking over the Southwestern US - doing it "neighborhood by
:>: neighborhood."
:>
:>    So suddenly one organization speaks for all minorities?  I'm not at
:>all condoning that thought, because that's ridiculous, but don't come
:>off like all minorities feel that way.

La Raza just happens to be one of the largest Hispanic organizations.

:>
:>: We're in another war for North America, but Whites don't seem to
:>: understand that.
:>
:>    It's too bad we're in for one- but it's not too late to do something.
:>

Its never to late. As the consequences of the suicidal policies (for Whites) 
that are necesary to support multi-racialism become more apparent, more and 
more Whites are attempting to avoid non-whites. "White Flight" is one of the 
best indicators of this. Do you think that the effort to eliminate 
Affirmative Action is just a coincidence? We've had a belly full for thirty 
years and are getting tired of it.

The great advantage for racial separatists, is that we have time working 
for us. Separation is actually increasing in many areas of the country. 
Even in my little town, the blacks are slowly moving away. There are only two 
blacks left as compared to around 20 when I was a kid. The county in which I 
live has had a significant decrease in the number of non-whites over the past 
dozen or so years.

Avoiding non-whites is almost universal among nearly everyone of my 
business associates, co-workers, neighbors, family, and friends. When given 
any choice they avoid non-whites. Evidently, even the blacks are getting 
tired of "Whitey" and are migrating to certain heavily Blacks areas in the 
South.  

Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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In message <847918999$18069@atype.com> - joe@apk.net (Joseph T. Adams) writes:

:>thebok@dreamon.com wrote:
:>
:>:  Actually, I had the opportunity to meet both Ian and Ann in Cleveland
:>: over the weekend. FYI, the National Alliance held a European-American
:>: Cultural Festival which many of us attended. 
:>
:>Really?  And here all this time I thought the Cleveland area was shut
:>down by massive snowstorms and power outages which were nationally
:>televised, lasted all weekend, and covered pretty much the whole area. 
:>I should know, since I live here. 

Shut down my ass. All the roads were clear and the power outages were only in 
certain areas. According to the tv the snow varied greatly from 2" near the 
lake to 12" further inland. There was about 6" where we were at.

:>(b) somehow the sun
:>magically decided to shine brightly on you and your gathering while at
:>the same time storm clouds were dumping four to five feet of snow on
:>the rest of us. 

You're hallucinating. There wasn't that much snow anywhere.

:>
:>Maybe it's Natures way of making sure that your progeny, if you have
:>any, will not be White.  :)
:>
:>Oh, and by the way, I never heard of your little "European American
:>Cultural Festival."  If there really was one, and if I'd known about
:>it, maybe I and some of my Black, Jewish, and Puerto Rican Militia
:>friends would have attended.  After all, most of us have at least some
:>European blood, and all of us are loyal Americans.

Sorry, I doubt your non-white "loyal Americans" would have been allowed 
in. And if they didn't like that, there was plenty of "security" to enforce 
it. 

This event was for Whites only, as are ALL National Alliance sponsored 
activities. Jeez, we all get enough "diversity" in our daily affairs. It's 
nice to get away from it, even if just for a short time. 

Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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In message <847501439$25401@atype.com> - kgrubb@ix.netcom.com (Ken Grubb) write
s:
:>
:>
:>mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney) wrote:
:>
:>>We don't want to deprive the Blacks of their best people. After all, what 
:>>kind of deal would that be for the Blacks for us to claim only the most 
:>>capable to stay? Without what intelligent leader-types they do have, a Black 
:>>society would probably degenerate into total mass choas and mayhem faster 
:>>than you could count to two. 
:>
:>That might take a while.  First we gotta find a Nazi Ninny who CAN
:>count to two.

Please note that I specifically said "before YOU could count to two." 
Granted, I took a chance there, but even if it took a week for you to count 
that far, my original point remains unscathed.

Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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In message <847499586$25186@atype.com> - pgissource@aol.com writes:
:>yep ... while you're at it? See what they have to say about the Ruskie
:>criminal orgs out of Odessa, Georgia (former USSR) and similar places. Pay
:>close attention to the groups they mention and Brit I(v)an's little Ruskie
:>(alleged daughter of a Ruskie immigrant) marriage.

Numbskull. As I stated before, my wife's ancestry consists of only 25% 
Russian (Carpathian Mountian area). Of course, you ignored the 50% Slovak, 
and 25% Croatian parts. So, are you saying that anyone who has any portion of 
Russian ancestry is automatically a Communist? Not likely in this case, since 
her family takes a dim view of the Jews. Her father told me that his 
father-in-law reacted violently at being casually questioned as to whether 
they had any Jewish ancestors by a family member doing geneological research. 
Also, her immigrant ancestors left Russia well before the "Russian" 
Revolution of 1917.

Nice try, but no cigar.


Yours truly,
Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Tue Nov 19 09:58:32 PST 1996
Article: 45772 of misc.activism.militia
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In message <848009025$23491@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com writes:
:>
:>
:>In article <847984698$21707@atype.com>, mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
:>writes:
:>
:>>I want to hear this. And please be specific about exactly what American 
:>>interests were being furthered. 
:>
:>the destruction of nazi Germany, and the Japanese Empire.
:>

I didn't know that Nazi Germany and the Japanese Empire were involved in WWI?
Is that a new militia revisionist version.


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From mckinney@usaor.net Tue Nov 19 09:58:34 PST 1996
Article: 45940 of misc.activism.militia
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 96 2:04:09 GMT
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Subject: Re: Research The Anti-Militia Movement?
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In message <848086398$27371@atype.com> - rarpol@aol.com writes:
:>
:>
:>In article <847891984$16207@atype.com>, mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
:>writes:
:>
:>>In message <49947_varange@crl.com_misc.activism.militia> -
:>varange@crl.com
:>>(Tro
:>>y Varange) writes:
:>>:>
:>>:>Matt Foster  writing [ 1825] bytes in
:>><847737227$7586@atype.com> from
:>>nexp.crl.com!omen.cryptic.com!nntp.crl.com!howland.erols.net!www.nntp.pri
:>menet.com!nntp.primenet.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!uhog.mit.edu!grapevi
:>ne.lcs.mit.edu!a
:>>type.com!militia-request on misc.activism.militia said:
:>>:>
:>>:>> I am a graduate student in criminology considering a survey of the
:>>:>> United States militia movement's membership concerning their opinions
:>>:>> on law enforcement and the rest of the justice system.
:>>:>	
:>>:>	Better, why don't you study the criminology of the
:>>:>	anti-patriot "movement?"
:>>:>
:>>:>	Their criminal record now and decades past is quite
:>>:>	extensive.
:>>
:>>I'll bet this guy is not a student at all, but an ADL agent - hell, maybe
:>
:>>he's from Nizkor - out trying to obtain personal information on persons
:>in 
:>>the Patriot movemnet. Once they get that, they try to smear or blackmail
:>you.
:>
:>Oh come off it Ian!  Not everybody who opposes and might is a spy.  You
:>guys are so damn paranoid.

I'm not paranoid. I'm not stupid either.


:>>Nonetheless, I agree with Troy. I'd like to see some of these "grad 
:>>students", who are constantly pestering us for information, do an
:>in-depth 
:>>paper on the subversion of the Anti-Defamation League; about how they 
:>>defended Communist Jews in the 1950's; how the operate as a agent for
:>Israel;
:>
:>Or maybe they could do a study of William Pierce as his little blueprint
:>for America.  You know the same book that McVeigh loved so much.

Bullshit. the TD is a work of fiction. What the ADL does is fact.



:>>Why aren't some of these college students doing research on these bums.
:>If 
:>>you want criminals look at the ADL - they're much more of a hazard to 
:>>people's rights than the Mafia.
:>
:>Yeah well, how ADL people have written about hanging political opponents
:>or blowing up Federal buildings like William Pierce.

So what you're saying is that Ian Fleming (James Bond) and Dr. Pierce have a 
lot in common. Look, you examples are ridiculous. But, let's look at the 
facts:

Dr. Pierce and the National Alliance have never attempted to ban any book, 
never conducted merciless smear campaigns, never protected communist 
subversives, never lobbied for a gun control bill, never attempted to censor 
anyone, etc., while all these things are the stock and trade of the ADL. 



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Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Tue Nov 19 09:58:35 PST 1996
Article: 45945 of misc.activism.militia
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 96 2:18:27 GMT
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Subject: Re: Q for those who object to Jews. "Jewish names".
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In message <847571644$29065@atype.com> - e_p@unlinfo.unl.edu (Ed. Pearlstein) w
rites:
:>
:>
:>   Regarding "Jewish names":  Hitler's chief racist was Alfred 
:>Rosenberg.  Rosenberg is generally thought of as a Jewish name!

One big difference: he WASN'T a Jew.


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From mckinney@usaor.net Tue Nov 19 09:58:35 PST 1996
Article: 45946 of misc.activism.militia
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 96 2:18:34 GMT
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Subject: Re: Cyberwar Campaign Medal
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In message <847564383$28421@atype.com> - johannes@ix.netcom.com (John C. Stephe
ns III) writes:
:>
:>
:>A while back, someone posted a proposal for a campaign medal.  There's
:>a place near where I live that makes such things, so if everyone can
:>agree on a design, I'll see about getting some done up.  I propose
:>something along the lines of the standard campaign medal design, with a
:>small bronze disk hanging from a ribbon.  The disk will have a
:>swastika, with the circle and bar 'prohibited' symbol superimposed, and
:>the lettering "Misc.Activism.Militia - Anti-Nazi Cyberwar '96". I don't
:>recall the proposed ribbon design, if someone would be good enough to
:>repost it I'd appreciate it.

I've heard everything now: giving yourself medals for battles LOST!

Why don't you be honest. Make one with a militia man elevated a foot off the 
ground with a jackboot slamming into his butt.



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Ian McKinney
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From mckinney@usaor.net Tue Nov 19 09:58:36 PST 1996
Article: 45952 of misc.activism.militia
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Subject: Re: Black Resettlement Program
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In message <847914484$17734@atype.com> - Laura Finsten  writes:
:>Duh, Ian, aren't you the one I told on apw-p that I think of it as
:>anarchist humour?  Hard to tell, you guys all sound the same.
:>
:>
:>
:>"If I can't dance.....I don't want to be part of your revolution."
:>          Emma Goldman

Don't try to hide Firestein, or Firstein, or whatever. Goldman was a commie 
and a Jew to boot. (Naturally.) It's only fitting that you use her blathering 
as a signature. 


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From mckinney@usaor.net Tue Nov 19 09:59:09 PST 1996
Article: 45991 of misc.activism.militia
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 96 19:33:03 GMT
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