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From schoedel@aol.com Mon Jan  1 23:34:17 PST 1996
Article: 18429 of alt.revisionism
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From: Ron 
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Subject: Re: What ROsenburger cries out when he is attacked by them nasty nazis...
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mstein@access2.digex.net (Michael P. Stein) wrote:

>    On what do you base your "theory" about the amount of computer
>knowledge needed to set up and maintain the Nizkor site?  Have you ever
>set up a Unix Internet host from scratch, Mr. Richards?  Try it sometime. 
>Then come back and tell us how easy you found it. 


One thing is for sure, the HTML on McOyVay's site is lousy, and the 
graphic sucks.

Country Ron

From schoedel@aol.com Tue Jan  2 18:26:30 PST 1996
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From: schoedel@aol.com (SCHOEDEL)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Zinkor Wackiness!
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hostrov@uniserve.com (Hilary Ostrov) wrote:
>In <4ca35d$7a8@spectator.cris.com>, Ron  wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>I hope to GOD that Kenny didn't actually PAY someone money to write up
>>that LOUSY HTML he has on his entire site.  If he did, he's a bigger
>>boob than I thought.
>
>Excuse me, as VOLUNTEER Co-Webmaster of the Nizkor website, along with
>Mr. McCarthy, I would appreciate specific examples of the "lousy HTML"
>you claim to have found.

I am happy for Kenny that he has found suckers to volunteer; there is no
excuse why a paid webmaster should have such a lousy site.  On the other
hand, I am kinda sad for you that Kenny doesn't share his checks from
the jews with you and Jamie.  What a scrooge.  How stingy.  How....jewish!

>Unless you can substantiate this slur on our professional competencies
>- which I very much doubt that you will be able to - we would
>appreciate your immediate apology and retraction.

Hilary, you clowns will get an apology from me the day when your fearless
leader Kenny apologises for his underhanded spying on me and stalking of
me.
Till then, put up or shut up.

And yes, your site does look like crap.  the HTML is on a level that most
any elementary school child could do.  You have no graphics to keep your
dry content even the least bit interesting.

And that photograph of Kenny, good god, that's enough to damn the site
anyday.

Hilary, as I mention, I will apologise for telling the truth about your
professional competencies when I get apologies from Kenny.  In addition
to his stalking and spying, he could apologise for slurring my
professional
abilities and my professions in general, not to mention my deeply-held
faith in God, which I am afraid some doped-out looking draft dodger like
Kenny would know nothing about.

Take care.

Rev. Ron

CHRISTIAN IDENTITY ONLINE & EURO-AMERICAN NATIONALISM WEBSITE
  Rev. Ronald C. Schoedel, III  http://www.cris.com/~megan

From thetruth1@aol.com Tue Jan  2 22:41:16 PST 1996
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mstein@access5.digex.net (Michael P. Stein) wrote:

>    I repeat the question: have you ever set up a Unix Internet host from
>scratch, since you seem to speak with such authority when you talk about
>how little computer skill it takes to do so? 

No one said anything about computer skill, just the lack of HTML knowledge
that went into the Zinkor website.

Rev. Ron


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From: Schoedel 
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gls13@aol.com (GLS13) wrote:
>Your postings are totally inappropriate to the Barry Manilow newsgroup.
>Please take your postings where they will be wanted and appreciated.
>
>Thank you.


Much like this whole thread, started by Ken "Call me Troll" McVay, 
which he saw fit to spam to a whole slew of unrelated newsgroups.

Country Ron

"Death to spammers"



From schoedel@alaska.net Sun Jun  9 13:26:10 PDT 1996
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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Make sure you archive this one, McOyVay...
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In case Kenny's selective archiving approach led him to decide not to
include this the first time I posted this, I thought it would be good to 
send it again, in hopes McOyVay would include this in his "I hate
anyone who realizes I am a dork so I will try to defame them" ftp archive.

- - - - begin quote - - - -

robk@rio.com (Rob Kowalewski) wrote:
>
>Saw an interesting little ditty on CNN today.
>
>Seems your Montana Freemen "Christian Identity" buddies

I have nothing to do with them, and have spoken out against them while I was in
Alaska.  I have nothing for that bunch of criminals and crooks.

>are in league with a "Pastor" in jail in Utah. Seems he was influential in
>getting the recent four to leave. It also seems he's in the pokie for forcing
>his 13 year old daughter to "marry" a 48 year old man.

I know not of this jailed Pastor, but I can't imagine he's at all a godly man if
he gave his 13 year old daughter to "marry".  That's about the most repulsive
thing I can think of, to give a little girl away, if that's true.  That "Pastor"
had better get on his knees and hope and pray that maybe God can forgive him, for
I sure as hell know I WOULD NOT FORGIVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>
>So, Pretend Reverend Ron, why not take this opportunity to condemn the
>practice of aiding and abetting pedophilia. It certainly doesn't seem to
>bother your "Christian Identity" buddies.

If the "Freemen" call themselves Identity, they are totally out of place.
They are using religion as a hedge hoping it will give them an air of credibility
or protection.  It won't, for they cannot truly be of God and do those things.  Real
Christian Identity has nothing to do with writing millions in bad checks, threatening
to kill judges, and marrying 13-year old little girls.

Thus saith Rev. Ron


http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel



From schoedel@alaska.net Sun Jun  9 13:26:11 PDT 1996
Article: 31714 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
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Kevin Alfred Strom  wrote:
>Dear Mr. McVay:
>
>I have emailed and posted my request to you on several occasions, asking 
>you to add _your_ message to Mr. Schoedel -- the one in which you 
>referred to his father not using a condom, implying that Mr. Schoedel 
>should not be alive -- to your online archive. I even sent you a copy 
>of the original message. You have posted your archive, or part of it, and 
>that message is nowhere to be seen.
>
>Have you added the hateful message _you_ wrote and posted about Schoedel 
>to your archive? Will you post it next time you post your "Schoedel 
>compilation"?


Somehow I doubt McVay will do so.  You see, the select quotes of mine he
posted were ever so cleverly divorced from their context, in an attempt
to make me look like a raving lunatic.  Several impassioned, some satirical,
other humourous comments of mine...all blended into one post to make me
look like someone I am not; and which everyone who knows me in even the most
causual way knows I am not.

On the other hand, ALL of McVay's posts reek of his hatred and intolerance,
with a thin veil of legitimacy offered them only because of the side his
bread is buttered on.  Had *I* posted the exact words of McVay, he would be
quoting those and still saying I am intolerant and hateful.

Double standards, pure and simple.  Oh, not to mention hypocrisy.

Good day,

Rev. Ronald C. Schoedel, III

http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel


From schoedel@alaska.net Sun Jun  9 21:34:41 PDT 1996
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:

Round three...ding!

>Mr. Schoedel:
>
>In your short time here on the net, you have established yourself as both 
>a liar and fraud. 

Pot...kettle...black... Moving on though,

>Although I doubt you have the courage to admit
>to your lies, I think you are entitled to an opportunity to address 
>them. 

I will retract anything proved to be false, because I am indeed a
fallible individual.  But just because McVay or his cronies say
something is true does not make it so.

>Surely you can understand, in your capacity as the
>manager of a public broadcasting station, the importance of
>accuracy in reporting, 

Indeed, very true.  Though I have resigned that job in Alaska,
I expect to assume a new job as news director in Ohio soon.

>although it would seem that the concept
>is unclear in your mind, and further education is required. 
>It is to assist you in this educational process that I confront you 
>with your lies.

Go for it...

>Question One

>   Since it is demonstrably false that I am a draft dodger,
>   and since I am an honorably discharged U.S. Marine, perhaps
>   you will explain this particular lie, particularly in light of
>   your "deeply-held faith in God," and the Biblical injunction
>   "Thou shalt not bear false witness." After you have
>   explained why you have libeled me, please retract your lie.

Prove you are an honourably discharged U.S. Marine.  Then, if I am
wrong, I will retract this statement.  Then, you can discontinue and
publicly aplogize for your libeling of me and my faith in God.


>   Question Two: What evidence do you have that I advocate
>   censorship of the InterNet, or that I am "against free
>   speech on the net"? 

Your very existence on the net is witness enough against you and your 
ideas on free speech.  Answer me this, DO YOU SUPPORT THE RIGHTS OF
RACISTS OR ANTI-SEMITES TO FREE, UNHINDERED, SPEECH?

I'll be awaiting your answer.

>   Question Three: Please tell us why you have stated that I
>   am a Jew. Since that statement is incorrect, and known to
>   be incorrect, please explain why you have made it.

You are what is known as a PROSELYTE, McVay.  Sure you may not be jewish
ethnically, but you have adopted their religious cause as yours.  That
makes you a PROSELYTE.  

>Question Four
>-------------
>
>   On September 23, 1995, you made the following assertion:
>
>      "Negresses are not of the same species as Human Males and 
>      Females, thus, not to be engaged with in sexual relations."
>      (Schoedel, Mating)
>
>   Please provide evidence for this (baseless) assertion, or
>   retract it. 

Homo europaeaus, white man.

Homo africanus, one species of black man, among several.

Homo americanus, some of the native American races.

(and the most recent discovery: Homo doofus, Mr. McVay.)  

Unfortunately, the vast majority of my library is in transit from Alaska
to Ohio, so I am unable to locate the books and references to back this up.
But if you look through your own archives of my posts, you'll find them,
for I have cited them before.  I trust you will have the time to do so,
seeing as how you are able to find the time to pick through the archive
looking for those certain out-of-context statements you so love to quote.

No credible scientist before the era of civil rights and equality would
ever have suggested that all races are the same species.

So now, McVay, will you be content with these answers, or will you find
something else to whine about?  And I do await your answers to my
queries for you, as well.

Cheers,

Rev. Ron


http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel




From schoedel@alaska.net Mon Jun 10 07:37:55 PDT 1996
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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white
Subject: What Kenny mcVay DOESN'T archive (was "Schoedel...Intolerant")
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Jeff Brown asks me, 
>Please supply the context that makes these statements reasonable and
>lucid, Schoedel.

What statements make those quoted-out-of-context words fairly reasonable?

Perhaps replying to a deranged, perverted old Jew who said the following things,
in his attempts to defame me.

Before anyone says I was mean and nasty in saying such things, one might like
to see what i was replying to, WHICH KENNY MCVAY HAS NOT ARCHIVED (hmmm,
wonder why...)

Brace yourselves as we enter into the mind of a sick old Jew named Rosenburg, who
compelled me to be so mean and nasty...

>From  the keyboard of highly-acclaimed (snicker) author, Joel Rosenburg:

"Have you stopped f--king your dog yet?"  [Ron's note:  This quote was repeated approx.
172 times over a couple months, at my best count]

- - -

"Now, let me explain something to you, dog-boy. You're not fooling anybody. 

"When I come in and give you a hard time in your newsgroup -- and, of course, these trashie 
newsgroups are yours, idiot -- I'm pissing in your living room, metaphorically. It's fun. It's not 
nice, but what the heck; I don't have to be nice to nazi trailer trash, and what do I care if 
alt.trash.white is unpleasant for its trashie clientele? 

"There's not a damn thing you can do about it. Except whine. 

"The smartest thing to do would be to ignore it, to put up with the humiliation of constantly being 
asked whether or not you're f--king your dog with whatever limited dignity you can muster. I know 
that's kind of hard for a 20-year-old dropout who thinks his CB is the BBC, but what the hell. 

"But nobody ever said you were smart.

"What you don't want to do is have your trashie would-be recruits come in and see you writhing and 
moaning in your pissed-on living room. You ought to want to keep the place as clean as possible.

"So, what do you do? When I piss in your living room, you proudly stand up, drop your pants, and take 
a dump.

"In your own living room.

"And then you smile as you sit back down in it, as though you've gotten even with me.

"So I piss some more on your furniture, and then to get even with me even more, you start rubbing 
your own shit all over your face by forging. 

"So, I put on my gloves rub it in your hair. 

"(And you wonder why folks say that you can tell that your Mom's having her period because your Dad's 
penis tastes funny . . .) 

"About now, cooler heads -- Kleim's fairly slick (he's a naziboy scumbag, but he's a fairly slick 
one) -- are probably shaking their heads at you and wondering how you think you're advancing Der 
Cause. Hell, dollars to doughnuts Kleim's emailed his very shrewd and unintentionally honest article 
on how to use Usenet.

"And now, you've realized that not only have you been suckered -- yet again, you trashie idiot -- but 
that if you even implicitly admit that, I'll rub your nose in it.

"And you're right. You just did, and I'm going to rub your nose in it. 

"So just sit there with shit on your face while I piss all over you. 

"And do try to smile."

- - -

">>Richard Butler, and it hurts so bad when he bends me over and
>>makes me "minister" to him."

- - -

"sh-t, boy, yo' mommy and yo' sister keep me far too busy..."

- - -

"Does yours having you holding up that little card with the numbers on it?  Or
just bending over to be "ministered to" by Richard Butler and his sandpaper
condom?"

- - -

"I think that youll find that dogf--king is not a highly regarded profession,
Frozen Ron.  (Or that people who move to Alaska in the winter are not
generally thought of as all-too-bright."

- - -

Boy, kinda gives you a new insight to the reason for my statements, does it not?

As one fellow on this newsgroup said of this perverted Jew,

"joel, you're a sick old pervert, but you do more for the cause of
anti-semitism than anybody i know of."

"what we all think is that a sick old pervert like you has nerve to be
calling anybody _sleazy_."


Okay McVay, tell the world why you failed to quote THIS information, eh?

Rev. Ron Schoedel

http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel




From schoedel@alaska.net Tue Jun 11 01:30:20 PDT 1996
Article: 31896 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white
Subject: Re: What Kenny mcVay DOESN'T archive (was "Schoedel...Intolerant")
Date: 10 Jun 1996 23:35:54 GMT
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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>>Okay McVay, tell the world why you failed to quote THIS information, eh?
>
>Um, a guess here, but maybe becuase it doesn't have anything to do
>with Holocaust denial?
>
>Just a guess....


And a lousy guess at that, Mathis.  Neither do the comments McVay took
out of context from my files deal with "holocaust denial".  McVay
maintains an archive of only that information which he deems fit for
others to read.  Kinda like just listening to one side of a conversa-
tion: it doesn't mean a thing.  McVay is a liar and a coward, plain
and simple.  THAT is why he doesn't catalog our words in context.

Rev. Ron

the ALL NEW Christian Identity Online/Nationalism Resouce Center
http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel


From schoedel@alaska.net Wed Jun 12 07:17:36 PDT 1996
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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
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Subject: Re: Do racists support the right of blacks and Jews to free speech?
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paul@mustang.mv.com (Whitey) wrote:
>"Ronald C. Schoedel"  wrote:

>>On the other hand, you have yet to answer the question queried of you:
>
>>Do you anti-racists support the rights of "racists" to free speech?
>
>Yes, Ron I do. I have gone on record - going even so far as to e-mail
>Bill Clinton - as being vehemently opposed to the CDA, and encouraging
>all freedom-loving netters to join the fight to have the CDA put down
>like the rabid dog that it is. * * * kind? So, to paraphrase Voltaire; >" I may disagree with what you say,
>but I will defend to the death your right to say it." There. Happy
>now?


Thank you for answering that.  Now, I wonder how many others of your
persuasion will agree with you...  I'm waiting to hear from Kenny McVay
in particular, who claims to be an advocate of free speech, but whose
actions (as ridiculous as they are) speak louder than his poorly-
constructed, lying, deceitful words.

Rev. Ron

http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel


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