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From: (Jamie McCarthy)
Subject: Re: Let's Hear Both Sides of the Holocaust story
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alt.revisionism) wrote:

> The Holocaust: Let's hear both sides
> by Mark Weber

Well, it's good to see that you still think Usenet is a suitable forum
for discussion, Mr. Raven.  But we've been over this "both sides" stuff
already, in the last month even.

I invite the curious reader to point his or her web browser to

where he or she may learn how Mr. Raven feels about showing people
both sides of the story.

Here are some highlights from our little discussion three weeks ago
(minus the HTML links which provided documention of what I was saying):

From: Greg Raven (
Date: Tue Jul 23 23:31:53 EDT 1996

   ...too many people are ignorant, and allow others to make up their
   minds for them. Don't be one of those people! Read about ALL sides
   of the Holocaust story. Rabbi Cooper at the Simon Wiesenthal
   Center doesn't believe you are smart enough to deal with
   revisionism. What do YOU think?

From: Jamie McCarthy (
Date: Fri Jul 26 18:14:48 EDT 1996

   Greg Raven writes:  
      As Ms Caruso pointed out, too many people are ignorant, and
      allow others to make up their minds for them. Don't be one of
      those people! Read about ALL sides of the Holocaust story.
   Mr. Raven, if you are truly interested in having people read about
   "all sides of the Holocaust story," put your HTML where your mouth
   The Nizkor Project has a longstanding policy of cross-linking from
   a document on our site to a document on "revisionist" sites, when
   it is appropriate to do so. For example, looking at our 66 QAR
   feature alone, we link to the IHR's web site from the index, and
   QARs 1, 2, 13, 19, 29, 32, 51, 62, and 66.
   Your IHR web site not only does not provide a link to Nizkor, but
   you have ignored repeated requests to do so, over a period of more
   than a year. See, for example, my reply to a page on your site.
   If you think people should "read about all sides," Mr. Raven, why
   do you pretend that Nizkor does not exist?
   Would you like to prove that you're not afraid of what will happen
   when people "read about all sides"? Post a pledge, here and now,
   to put a link to Nizkor at the same place you link to your other
   sites, as Nizkor does, and to cross-link related documents when it
   is appropriate to do so.

Mr. Raven's response to this was ... silence.

I repeat my challenge, Mr. Raven:  put your HTML where your mouth is.

 Jamie McCarthy        Co-Webmaster of
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