From firstname.lastname@example.org Thu Dec 28 19:42:49 PST 1995 Article: 64389 of soc.culture.german Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,alt.censorship Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!mv!condes.mv.com!user From: email@example.com (Gary McGath) Subject: German prosecution of "speech crimes" Message-ID:
Organization: Conceptual Design Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:34:54 GMT Followup-To: alt.censorship X-Nntp-Posting-Host: condes.mv.com Lines: 27 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca soc.culture.german:64389 alt.censorship:59249 With the German government having censored hundreds of newsgroups on CompuServe, it's a good time to recall some other outrages which the German government has perpetrated against freedom of speech. In August, the long arm of the German government reached into Denmark to arrest an American for speechcrime. Denmark, under pressure from the German government, arrested one Gary Lauck from Nebraska on charges of "propagating racial hatred, xenophobia and neo-Nazi propaganda". The alleged speech crimes which he committed occurred in the U.S. Thus, the German government has already arrested people outside its borders for alleged violations of its speech laws which occurred outside its borders. CompuServe has good reason to be scared. Ultimately, the heirs of Hitler can't stop the flow of speech across its borders; but they can wreck a lot of lives in slowing it up, and they can impede it even outside their borders. Only those Germans who value free speech are in a position to do much about this. I hope that some Germans will be in a position to fight the building of a Berlin Cyberwall around their country. (Yes, Hitler was a National Socialist and the Berlin Wall was built by Communists; but the two differ only in details, not in their underlying lust for power and hostility toward all forms of liberty.) -- Gary McGath firstname.lastname@example.org http://www.mv.com/users/gmcgath One world, one vendor, one Web browser? No, thanks! Newsgroups: alt.censorship,soc.culture.german,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: German prosecution of "speech crimes" Summary: Expires: References: Sender: Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: The Nizkor Project Keywords: Cc: In article , email@example.com (Gary McGath) wrote: >In August, the long arm of the German government reached into Denmark >to arrest an American for speechcrime. Denmark, under pressure from the >German government, arrested one Gary Lauck from Nebraska on charges of >"propagating racial hatred, xenophobia and neo-Nazi propaganda". The >alleged speech crimes which he committed occurred in the U.S. Thus, the >German government has already arrested people outside its borders for >alleged violations of its speech laws which occurred outside its >borders. CompuServe has good reason to be scared. Interesting case. The German government issued an international arrest warrant for Lauck, charging him with distributing illegal propaganda and Nazi symbols (in Germany), incitement, encouraging racial hatred and belonging to a criminal group, according to press reports. He was not charged for something he did in the United States, but for something he did in Germany. I assume that the United States would have ignored the warrant, had Lauck remained there. The violations, however, occured within German borders - Lauck reportedly imported the lion's share of Nazi propaganda into Germany for a period of twenty years, and circulated a Nazi newspaper, "NS Kampfruf," within Germany. Even more interesting, given your comment about pressure being brought to bear on the Danish government (by Germany) is one found in press reports which notes that, according to Danish law, a person can _only_ be extradited if the offense he or she is accused of is illegal in Denmark. In this case, the Danish Supreme Court found that the offenses were all illegal under Danish law, and denied Lauck's appeal. Comments like those quoted from Lauck's "newspaper" were deemed to be direct calls for the murder of Jews - news reports note that Lauck did not contradict the translations as they were read before the court: "Jews are a plague. They have worms inside, and these worms must be killed," and "Jews are our calamity. Out with the Jews. Only NSDAP/AO can help." Perhaps what both the German people and the Danish courts were saying is that they've heard it all before, and they have seen the brutal and murderous consequences, first-hand. They have no desire to see it again. Lauck was reportedly attending a Nazi convention in Denmark, hence the request for his arrest from the German government. For information about Gerhard Lauck, who called directly for the extermination of "Non-white races" during a June 1994 CBS Television interview ("Hitler and Stalin: Legacy of Hate") in unequivocal language, point your browsers at URL ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/people/l/lauck.gerhard - the press directory contains a few articles about his arrest and extradition proceedings.
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