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On Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:14:14 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:03:26 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>Canadian Press report today, that this case is really making waves in
>the Federal Court of Canada.
>
>The lawyer for george harris, the businessman from Winnipeg who is
>bringing the case against Revenue Canada, is reported as claiming that
>the Bronfman case is threatening to corrupt public trust in the
>Canadian tax system!!!
>
>The lawyer is claiming that revenue canada had a legal duty to apply
>the tax, but screwed it up!!!
>
>No kidding!!!
>
>On Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:53:45 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!
>>
>>In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 december 1991 that the
>>Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!
>>
>>George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor general
>>of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
>>not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
>>department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!
>>
>>Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
>>issue.
>>
>>He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
>>public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
>>administration of justice generally."
>>
>>You said it!!!
>sven88



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On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:46:19 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>Subject: Der ewige Jude [The Eternal Jew]
>
>The Film of a 2000-Year Rat Migration
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>The Eternal Jew is the first film that not only gives a full picture
>of Jewry, but provides a broad treatment of the life and effects of
>this parasitic race using genuine material taken from real life. It
>also shows why healthy peoples in every age have responded to the Jews
>with disgust and loathing, often enough expressing their feelings
>though deeds.
>
>Just like rats, the Jews 2000 years ago moved from the Middle East, to
>Egypt, at that time a flourishing land. Even then they had all the
>criminal traits they display today, even then they were the enemy of
>hard-working, creative peoples. In large hordes they migrated from
>there to the "Promised Land," flooded the entire Mediterranean region,
>broke into Spain, France and Southern Germany, then followed the
>German colonists as they moved into the
>countries of the East. Along they way they remained eternal parasites,
>haggling and cheating, Poland above all became the enormous reservoir
>from which Jewry sent its agents to every leading nation of Europe and
>the world.
>
>The self-portrait Jewry offered the world was disgusting from the
>beginning. All that is overshadowed by the powerful examples of this
>new and most valuable film, The Eternal Jew. This film with its
>persuasive power must be shown everywhere where anti-Semitism is still
>questioned. No one will will fail to shudder at the sneaking servility
>and dirty bartering of the Jews when they start out, at the perfidy,
>insidiousness and vulgarity of their methods, at the brutality and
>all-devouring hatred they exhibit when they
>reach their goal and control finance.
>
>The most revolting scenes show Jewish slaughtering methods. These
>customs, which cast a particularly vivid spotlight on the so-called
>Jewish religion, are so terrible that it is hard to watch the film as
>the grinning Jewish butchers carry out their work. It is illuminating
>to see how stubbornly Jewry holds to its method of slaughter and with
>which casuistry it defends it against the horror of the civilized
>world. Rarely will people feel more horror than which watching the
>desperate and horrible death struggle of the
>slaughtered animals. Long before the seizure of power, the NSDAP
>fought against Jewish slaughter. National Socialist representatives in
>parliament repeatedly introduced legislation to abolish this form of
>animal torture through a ban on Jewish slaughter. Such proposals were
>always rejected, since the entire Jewish and Jewish-influenced press
>ran long articles against them and the so-called German parties
>refused to support National Socialism in its battle against this evil.
>
>Not only in this regard, but in other areas too we are reminded with a
>shudder of what once was reality in Germany: the power of the Jews in
>the economy, finance, culture, theater, film, publishing, press,
>radio, education and politics. All these Jewish leaders of the Weimar
>era had their home or their origin in the filthy ghettos of the East.
>
>
>One has a deep sense of salvation after seeing this film. We have
>broken their power over us. We are the initiators of the fight against
>world Jewry, which now directs its hate, its brutal greed and
>destructive will toward us. We must win this battle for ourselves, for
>Europe, for the world. This film will be a valuable tool in that
>struggle.



From sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy Mon Nov 16 08:45:45 EST 1998
Article: 129628 of soc.culture.polish
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On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:48:22 GMT, sbjarnason@eretz.zhid.org wrote:

>JEWISH JOKES
>
>How was copper wiring invented?
>Two Jews fighting over a penny!
>
>
>How is Christmas celebrated in a Jewish home?
>They put parking meters on the roof!
>
>
>Why is money green?
>Because Jews pick it before it's ripe!
>
>
>What candy did Hitler hate more then any other?
>Jew Jew Beans... Although I heard he enjoyed them "roasted!"
>
>
>If Tarzan and Jane were Jewish, what would Cheetah be?
>A fur coat!
>
>
>Why don't Jews eat pork?
>They may be a lot of things, but CANNIBALS they're not!
>
>
>Why aren't Jews attacked by sharks?
>Professional courtesy!
>
>
>Do you know how to keep Jews out of a country club?
>Let one in, and he'll keep the rest out.
>
>
>What's the Jewish version of foreplay?
>Half an hour of begging.
>
>
>How can you tell the mother-in-law at a Jewish wedding?
>She's the one on her hands and knees picking up the rice!
>
>
>Did you hear about the new tires, Firestein?
>They not only stop on a dime, they also pick it up!
>
>
>What's the difference between a circumcision and crucifixion?
>In a crucifixion, they throw the whole Jew out!
>
>
>Why did the Jews wander in the desert for 40 years?
>Someone dropped a quarter!
>
>
>Why do Jews have such big noses?
>Because air is free.
>
>
>What did the Jewish mother ask her daughter when she learned she had
>an
>affair?
>Who catered it?
>
>
>What happens when a Jew with an erection walks into a wall?
>He breaks his nose.
>
>
>What's a Jewish dilemma?
>Free ham.
>
>
>What's the difference between a Jewish bitch and a barracuda?
>Nail polish.
>
>
>What's the difference between an elephant and a Jew?
>An elephant eventually forgets.
>
>
>A nigger was walking down the street, kicking some rubbish out of his
>way,
>when he spotted something amid the trash that gleamed
>strangely. It urned out to be an oddly shaped bottle, and when he
>rubbed it, a
>Jewish genie appeared. "I'll give you two wishes," quipped
>the genie. "Far out," said the black man. "First, I want to be white,
>uptight,
>and out of sight!" Second, I want to be surrounded by warm,
>sweet pussy. So the genie turned him into a TAMPON! The moral of this
>story:
>You can't get anything from a Jew without strings
>attached!
>
>
>How do you stop a Jewish girl from fucking you?
>Marry her!
>
>
>Why do jewish bitches only sleep with circumcised men?
>They want 20% off everything!
>
>
>What's the difference between between karate and judo?
>Karate is a form of self-defense, and judo is what bagels are made of.
>
>
>Did you hear that the limbo was invented by the Jews?
>Yeah, from sneaking into pay toilets.
>
>
>What's the definition of a queer Jew?
>Someone that likes girls more then money.
>
>
>What do you call ten Jewish bitches in a basement?
>A WHINE cellar.
>
>
>Why did the Jewish mother have herself entombed at Bloomingdales?
>So her daughter would visit at least twice a week.
>
>
>What's the difference between a vulture and a Jew?
>A vulture waits until you're dead to eat your heart out!
>
>-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion
>==-----
>http://www.dejanews.com/   Now offering spam-free web-based
>newsreading
>
>
>
>On Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:06:02 -0700, "WaRR" 
>wrote:
>
>>what do you get when you cross a jewish women and an arab women??
>>oil of no lay!!
>>
>>=what is the difference between karate and judo?
>>karate is the art of self-defense, and judo is what bagels aremade of.
>>
>>=i knew a jewish woman once who thought the apostle's creed was
>>what fought rocky balboa.
>>
>>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and a toilet?
>>a toilet doesn't follow you around for 9 months after you use it.
>>
>>=did you hear that al italia and el al were merging to form a new airline?
>>it's called well i'll tell ya.=what do you call a jewish woman's waterbed?
>>the dead sea. second prize: lake placid.
>>
>>=how was copper wire invented?
>> by 2 jews fighting over a penny.
>>
>>=why are jewish men circumcised?
>> because jewish women won't buy anything unless it's 20% off.
>>
>>=what do you call an uncircumcised jewish baby?
>>a girl.
>>
>>=what do you get when you cross a jewish british princess & a computer?
>>a computer that never goes down on you.
>>=what's a jewish british princess' favorite wine?
>> i wanna go to palmsprings.
>>=how do you know a jewish british princess has an orgasm?
>>she drops her nail file.
>>
>>=what do you have when you get 3 jewish british princesses together
>>with 3 other women who have yeast infections?a whine and cheese party.
>>=how many jewish british princesses does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
>>two, one to get a diet coke and one to call daddy.
>>
>>=why do jewish girls like prostitution?
>>because they can sell it again and again and again.
>>
>>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and jello?
>>jello moves when you eat it.
>>
>>=how does a jewish british princess do it doggie style?
>>she makes him beg for an hour.
>>
>>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and a catholic
>>british princess?
>>the catholic british princess has fake jewelry and real orgasms.
>>
>>=what's the difference between jews and canoes?
>>canoes tip.   ( THIS ONE FREAKS ME OUT :)))))
>>
>>=what's the difference between jews and pizzas?
>>pizzas don't scream when you put them in the oven.
>>
>>=what is a jewish dilemma?
>>free ham.
>>=what do you call a jewish piano?
>>a cash register.
>>=how many jews does it take to change a light bulb?
>>none. they are used to sitting in the dark.
>>=did you hear about the rabbi who did free circumcisions?
>>he only took tips.
>>=how many jews can you fit in a vw?
>>two in the front, two in the back, and ten thousand in the ash tray.
>>
>>=a priest, a baptist minister, and a rabbi were asked how they would
>>divide up some gold coins between themselves and god. the priest
>>replied, "i'd draw a line down the middle of the room, throw the
>>coins in the air, and whatever landed on one side goes to god,
>>the other to me." the minister replied, "i'd draw a circle in
>>the middle of the room, and whatever lands inside is for god,
>>outside for me." the rabbi's answer was, he wouldn't draw any
>>line, just throw the money in the air and whatever god caughthe could keep.
>>
>>
>>=an italian, a jew, and a homosexual were walking down the street and
>>were hit by the same bolt of lightning. next thing they know they're
>>in front of st. peter begging for a second chance. "ok," he says,
>>"but on one condition: you must give up that which you love the most.
>>if you don't, you go straight to hell." after agreeing, they find
>>themselves back on the street and they start walking again. a few
>>blocks down they pass a pizza store. "i can't help myself!" says the
>>italian... he goes in, takes a bite of pizza, and poof!, he
>>disappears. so the jew and the homosexual continue walking
>>down the street. the jew sees a penny on the sidewalk. "i can't
>>help myself!" he says. he reaches for the penny and poof! the
>>homosexual disappears.
>>
>>
>>yours truly
>>
>>WaRR
>>



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On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:00:16 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP  wrote:
>>
>>>LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London's History
>>>
>>>DAILY MAIL
>>>Monday June 15 1998
>>>By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN
>>>
>>>
>>>Revealed: The men accused in 
>>>31.8 million State Benefit Racket
>>>
>>>THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters 
>>>over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was 
>>>highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank 
>>>Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at 
>>>slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud.
>>>
>>>At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has 
>>>since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest 
>>>ever alleged welfare frauds.
>>>
>>>They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38, 
>>>who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their 
>>>sprawling homes in a North London suburb.
>>>
>>>Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of 
>>>what Mr Field described as 'an extended family' about 
>>>allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing 
>>>benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed 
>>>by officers from a special undercover task force set up by 
>>>the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage 
>>>fraud worth £31.2 million.
>>>
>>>The investigators are said to be checking on any links with 
>>>massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members 
>>>of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used 
>>>fake identities to make bogus benefit claims.
>>>
>>>Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the 
>>>ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill, 
>>>North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation 
>>>has caused consider-able anger.
>>>
>>>At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter, 
>>>Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight 
>>>to clear his name.
>>>
>>>'This investigation is without foundation and is a complete 
>>>waste of taxpayers' money,' he insisted. 'All of our finances 
>>>are in good order. There has been no fraud.
>>>
>>>'It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism. 
>>>This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent 
>>>community which we have here. We just want to be able to 
>>>get on with our lives in peace.
>>>
>>>'When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a 
>>>police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed. 
>>>This should not have been allowed to happen.'
>>>
>>>Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached 
>>>at his family home, his wife Rivka said: 'He has no 
>>>comment to make.' Eichenstein lists his official home 
>>>as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home 
>>>where his wife and children live.
>>>
>>>Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm 
>>>which acts as the registered office for the majority of 
>>>the men's companies con-firmed that they had been contacted 
>>>by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing 
>>>to examine their records.
>>>
>>>Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a 
>>>network of companies and properties associated 
>>>with the family.
>>>
>>>All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein 
>>>are within a stone's throw of each other on the Stamford 
>>>Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties 
>>>Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein's home.
>>>
>>>Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties 
>>>since January and Amvex Investments since 1992.
>>>
>>>The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a 
>>>major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling 
>>>of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby.
>>>
>>>Police activity is all but non-existent - patrol cars are 
>>>already overstretched by the criminal activity related 
>>>to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the 
>>>southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat.
>>>
>>>
>>>Both men, together with three women and another man to 
>>>whom they are related are currently on bail and have to 
>>>return to Stoke Newington police station at the 
>>>end of this month.
>>>
>>>The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids 
>>>on four houses in April - is seen by Mr Field as the first 
>>>of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team.
>>>
>>>Ministers have decided that they want to 'name and shame' 
>>>convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a 
>>>'revival of common decencies'.
>>>
>>>The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised 
>>>housing benefit rackets in London - an initiative which 
>>>the Government now plans to extend right across the country.
>>>
>>>The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting 
>>>loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious 
>>>identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of 
>>>benefit allowances in various parts of London and 
>>>other cities in Britain.
>>>
>>>Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime 
>>>bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week.
>>>
>>>The Minister said: 'We are going for the big boys, while 
>>>at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much 
>>>tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in 
>>>Britain today.'
>>>
>>>He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31 
>>>billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite 
>>>repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers.
>>>
>>>--------------------------------------
>>>



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On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 23:01:23 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control...
>
>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is...
>
>>>cheers,          PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>maddison@power.connexus.net.au (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>
>>Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from,
>>Harold.
>>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. :-) 
>>
>>Here is another angle on my 'yike'.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the 'nice little earner'
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia.  They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political 'pincer movement' entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>Ummm... Was it "The Jews" (tm) that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>
>>Some voices among 'the Jews' have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review.  The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all.  A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.
>>
>>>Why blame "The Jews" for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>
>>Consider my approach a 'media technique'.  One I
>>highly  disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of.  (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, 'the end justifies the
>>means'.)
>>
>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I'd say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,
>>
>>They haven't.
>>
>>> or someone may have posted it to the 'Net.
>>
>>Here of course mostly 'anything goes'.  That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>
>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn't
>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>
>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose.  Quite stupid are they not!  :-)  I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?  
>>
>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>
>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please.  (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.) 
>>
>>>David Maddison
>>
>>Hope that helps.  :-)
>>
>>Now, here is another aspect of my 'yike'.
>>
>>The arrogance displayed by Australia's now
>>prolific 'ursurper classes' knows no bounds.
>>
>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>
>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>'politically correct screeching brigade' has long
>>intimidated our good, polite,  well meaning and
>>well mannered 'Australian cultured' citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review's stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of  their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency's 'game' just might be about to be
>>up!  Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>
>>Harold.



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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:15:56 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Apr 1998 16:41:38 -0400, "Richard G. Philllips"
> wrote:
>>Scoop wrote:
>>> Quoth Richard G. Philllips:
>>> : Scoop wrote:
>
>>> : > Dick, since you are alleging that Jews have routinely engaged in ritual
>>> : > murder throughout our long history, it is incumbent upon you to provide
>>> : > proof of your assertion.
>>===========================================
>>Phillips
>>I have never alleged and I do not believe that Jews ROUTINELY commit
>>ritual murder. I am inclined to believe that it has happened but is a
>>rare thing and certainly not indulged in by the generality of Jews.
>
>>After reading covington's original post about the ocurrences in Chicago
>>in 1955,
>>I did no more than say that the circumstances, taken as a whole, were
>>highly suggestive of ritual murder.
>>===========================================
>>Phillips (previous)
>
>>> : It is well known that liberals and Jews have a penchant for hyperbole of
>>> : that sort. It reveals far more about the author than it does about the
>>> : person referred to.
>>===================================================
>>> 
>>> All that it reveals about me is my opinion that you're a spineless, lying
>>> buffoon.
>>===========================================
>>PHillips
>>
>>See what I mean?
>>=====================
>Notice that the Christkillers refuse to discuss the issue, namely how
>many of them indulge in Jewish Ritual Murder, of children???



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On Sun, 09 Aug 1998 17:28:36 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sun, 9 Aug 1998 04:37:08 -0400, allan_matthews@bigfoot.com (Allan
>Matthews) wrote:
>
>>In article , 
>>anon@squirrel.owl.de says...
>>>What Jews don't want discussed is what Stalins predecessors did and who they
>>>were. They were Jews running the Revolution.
>
>
>For the benefit of the braindead Scheissedreck, below is an
>interesting documentary proving that the cursed Soviets were a tool of
>the Christkiller JEWS!!!
>
>Doc Tavish (phibes@phenix.net) wrote in message
><359e22ba.61163966@nntp.ix.netcom.com>...
>>EVIDENCE #1
>>
>>http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=288129033
>>Subject:      The Russian Revolution: Still inspiring after 80 years
>>(Reprinted from the November 8, 1997 issue of the People's
>>Weekly World. May be reprinted or reposted with PWW credit.
>>For subscription information see below)
>>
>>"The Bolshevik Party (later the Communist Party) was the
>>party of the industrial workers in Russia.... After the revolution,
>>all legal restrictions were abolished, and the first Soviet President
>>was a Jew, Yakov Sverdlov."
>>
>>************************************************************
>>Tired of the same old system: Join the Communist Party, USA
>>      Info: CPUSA@rednet.org; or (212) 989-4994; or
>>           http://www.hartford-hwp.com/cp-usa
>>************************************************************
>>
>>EVIDENCE #2
>>
>>[Communist Party organ declares first President of Soviet Union was a
>>Jew! The first Chairman appointed to the Soviet State was a Jew, a
>>Jew with an alias of Trotsky.  Tavish]
>>
>>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>>
>>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>>Jews....
>>
>>The March Revolution of 1917 caught him by surprise in New York City,
>>where he wrote for a Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May,
>>quickly assumed leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic
>>Interdistrict Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was
>>renamed) Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as
>>the most eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being
>>courted by Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its
>>Central Committee.
>>
>>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>>revolution......
>>
>>[How many of you think that Jew Trotsky's revolution was bloodless and
>>was a debate of ideas?  Notice the first Chairman of the Soviet was a
>>Jew named Trotsky. Trotsky was also the first General and commander of
>>the Red "Bolshevik" Army!  Tavish]
>>
>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>>
>>states:
>>
>>"Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924."
>>Let's see ol' Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>>Architect of the Red Army too!
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>EVIDENCE #3
>>
>>http://www.aish.org/dt-liber.htm
>>
>>Society:
>>Where Judaism and Liberalism Part
>>
>>by Rabbi Nachum Braverman
>>Aish HaTorah Los Angeles
>>
>>It’s often considered axiomatic that Jews are politically liberal.
>>This impression has some basis in fact. In 1991, the National Jewish
>>Community Relations Council (NJCRC) identified the public agenda of
>>the Jewish community as activism on behalf of Israel, and Soviet and
>>Ethiopian Jewry, as well as "social and economic justice." ...
>>
>>[ ... ]
>>
>>Though many Jews are liberal this no more makes liberalism the Jewish
>>agenda than the prominence of Jews among Bolsheviks made Bolshevism
>>the Jewish agenda.
>>
>>[Notice the Rabbi used the word "prominenence."  Tavish]
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>EVIDENCE #4
>>
>>http://www.jewishamerica.com/TimeLine/haskala.htm
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>The Czar exploits the break-offs. In their struggle against
>>traditional Judaism, Haskala Jews are given some privileges and
>>assistance, sometimes clandestinely. Some get influence in the Bureau
>>of Jewish Affairs and interfere with religious matters.....
>>
>>A lot of Haskala Jews are ready to give up on Russia. Many channel
>>their energy into creating a home land of their own.
>>
>>Some Haskala Jews turn to political revolution. The Russian Revolution
>>of the early 20th century will overthrow the Czarist government and it
>>will be led by a disproportionate number of Jews. The Czar that used
>>civil unrest against the Jews will be destroyed by it.
>>
>>[Notice the "Russian Revolution... will be led by a disproportionate
>>number of Jews..."   Tavish]
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>MORE EVIDENCE:
>>
>>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>>Russian Bolshevik party.
>>
>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>>824-827).
>>
>>"Individual revolutionary leaders and Sverdlov -- played a conspicuous
>>part in the revolution of November, 1917,  which enabled the
>>Bolshevists to take possession of the state apparatus" (Univ. Jew.
>>Encyd., Vol. IX, p.668). Here and there in the Universal Jewish
>>Encyclopedia other Jews are named as co-founders of Russian
>>Communism, but not Lenin and Stalin. Both of these, however,
>>are said by some writers to be half-Jewish. Whatever the racial
>>antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet commissariats were
>>largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in the Communist
>>movement was well understood in Russia. "The White Armies which
>>opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks
>>as common enemies" (Univ. Jewish Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>My sources said of the Jewish presence: "..the first Soviet President
>>was a Jew, Yakov Sverdlov." , "Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky...
>>the son of Russified Jews...." , "As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected
>>chairman of the Soviet... and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks" , "Lev Davidovich
>>Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect of the Red
>>Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924." ,
>>"...prominence of Jews among Bolsheviks..." , "Russian Revolution...
>>will be led by a disproportionate number of Jews..." , and "Among the
>>Jews who remained in Russia, ... were the founders of the Russian
>>Bolshevik party."
>>
>>Xrefs:
>>http://x2.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=364835925
>>http://x2.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=364606871
>>http://x2.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=364603566
>>----
>>Visit the Official Doc Tavish Library at:
>>http://www.crusader.net/texts/cng/doc
>
>
>>Yeah, like that guy who called himself Lenin, right?
>>allan



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On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 03:00:51 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control...
>
>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is...
>
>>>cheers,          PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>maddison@power.connexus.net.au (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from,
>>Harold.
>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. :-) 
>
>>Here is another angle on my 'yike'.
>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the 'nice little earner'
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia.  They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political 'pincer movement' entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>
>>>Ummm... Was it "The Jews" (tm) that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>
>>Some voices among 'the Jews' have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review.  The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all.  A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.
>
>>>Why blame "The Jews" for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>
>>Consider my approach a 'media technique'.  One I
>>highly  disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of.  (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, 'the end justifies the
>>means'.)
>
>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I'd say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,
>
>>They haven't.
>
>>> or someone may have posted it to the 'Net.
>
>>Here of course mostly 'anything goes'.  That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>
>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn't
>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>
>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose.  Quite stupid are they not!  :-)  I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?  
>
>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>
>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please.  (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.) 
>
>>>David Maddison
>
>>Hope that helps.  :-)
>
>>Now, here is another aspect of my 'yike'.
>
>>The arrogance displayed by Australia's now
>>prolific 'ursurper classes' knows no bounds.
>
>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>
>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>'politically correct screeching brigade' has long
>>intimidated our good, polite,  well meaning and
>>well mannered 'Australian cultured' citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>
>>The Australia-Israel Review's stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of  their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency's 'game' just might be about to be
>>up!  Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>
>>Harold.
>
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:07:13 +1000, Mr_I@TIO>not.awww....
>(Mr.Interesting) wrote:
>
>>In article <35a35535.8370350@news.eagles.bbs.net.au>,
>>woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold Wood) wrote:
>
>>> JEWISH NAZIS!
> 
>>> How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>> peddlers of guilt, those 'oonga boonga' mere
>>
>
>>Shouldn't that be "Oingo Boingo"?
>
>>Doesn't Hebraic tradition have a saying that goes along the lines of 
>>"Be careful who you hate, because you'll end up being just like them".
>
>>They're behaving like Nazi's in Palestine (let's call it by it's real name
>>shall we, that is unless you STILL believe that the bible isn't one of the
>>most successful pieces of Politico-Religious Propagandistic Re-writes of
>>the Past AND the Future?...).
>
>>Funny thing is, the ones who are causing all the troubles, ie the
>>Ultra-Orthodox Right wing and Likud parties, apart from being
>>DOLE-BLUDGERS in Israel, are also CONVENIENTLY EXEMPT from military
>>service, or from facing the bullets and bombs, that they demand their
>>fellow secular countrymen face(some of which, by the way, are planted by
>>Orthodox jews, killing ordinary jews, to stir up a bit more hatred).
>
>>I find it quite strange that the majority of Israeli's are secular and
>>want peace, but allow themselves to be kept in a state of terror, NOT by
>>Palestinians, but by OTHER JEWS!.  WHO DON'T WORK.  WHO DON'T HAVE TO DO
>>MILITARY SERVICE.  WHO ASSASSINATED THE PRESIDENT who was going to deliver
>>peace.
>
>
>On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 04:42:35 GMT, cartman@southpark.com (Eric Cartman)
>wrote:
>>On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 00:28:39 GMT, management.dolitle@omcs.com.au
>>(Scott Steel) wrote:
>>>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 05:20:36 GMT, zsero@bigfoot.com (Zev Sero) wrote:
>>>>On Wed, 08 Jul 1998, peterjames@usa.net (Peter James) wrote:
>
>>>>The publication of a portion of the membership list of One Nation is
>>>>in no way comparable to your Nazi heroes' making up of lists of Jews
>>>>to murder.  Neither Mark Leibler nor anyone else involved in AIR has
>>>>given the slightest indication that they might be prone to violence
>>>>against One Nation members.
>
>>>Im sure they havent.
>>>But they printed the List with the expectation of intimidating One
>>>Nation members.This is not acceptable in a country with a right to
>>>free political association.
>
>>>>  It's clear that the purpose of publishing
>>>>the list was to shame these people who have lent a hand to that unworthy
>>>>cause. 
>
>>>To "shame" these people?
>>>Who  is Leibler to define whom needs "shaming"?
>>>Since when did that little imp carry the collective conscience of
>>>Australia?
>
>>Seems to be a preoccupation of the people of Jehovah.



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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:58:20 GMT, kengoy88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Fri, 01 May 1998 14:06:39 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>Interesting artcile from Deja News.
>>If true, why no legal action??
>>
>>>From - Tue Sep 23 12:47:40 1997
>>>Return-path: 
>>
>>>From: NSWPP-CSU 
>>>Subject: Jewish Mafia Controls Ukrainian Media
>>
>>======================================================
>>       THE CAMPAIGN FOR RADICAL TRUTH IN HISTORY
>>   Visit our News Bureau, Archives and Bookstore at
>>              http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>=====================================================
>>
>>Jewish Mafia Takes Over Ukrainian and E. European Television----------
>>
>>According to an article in the April 5, 1997 N.Y. Times, "TV Venture
>>by Cosmetics Heir Raises Questions," Zionist mogul and former U.S.
>>ambassador to Austria Ronald Lauder, has united with Vadim Rabinovich,
>>a Ukrainian millionaire who spent nine years in prison for theft and
>>has ties to the Jewish mafia in Ukraine, to build a media
>>empire--Central European Media
>>Enterprises-- in the countries of the former Soviet Union.
>>
>>The Jewish owned Central European Media controls television stations
>>in seven East European countries in the region. Ukrainian TV is
>>controlled by its subsidiary, the Studio 11 Group, its local partner
>>in Kiev.
>>
>>Rabinovich is linked to Grigory Loutchansky, a Russian-Jew, whose
>>company, Nordex, is believed to be a front for the Russian-Jewish
>>mafia.
>>
>>The Times says, "Rabinovich was jailed from 1982 to 1990 for theft
>>from the state. He said in an interview that he had been chief of a
>>construction brigade and had sold goods to private customers. He said
>>he had committed no real crime and had been persecuted for being
>>Jewish.
>>
>>"...Central European Media sought to expand into Ukraine a year ago.
>>At the outset, Fertig (its chief of operations) said, its
>>representatives were referred to Rabinovich and his partners by a
>>close adviser and  assistant to President Leonid Kuchma of Ukraine,
>>who praised the Ukraine group. And when questions arose about the
>>legality of the broadcast license  received by the joint venture, the
>>same presidential adviser obtained a letter declaring that the license
>>had been awarded properly.
>>
>>"...(C)oncerns about his business activities led the British
>>government to bar Loutchansky from entering the country...An
>>intelligence summary prepared by a Western government, and
>>corroborated by senior U.S. diplomats, said Ostex, one of Rabinovich's
>>companies, had been created  as an arm of Nordex, a claim that
>>Rabinovich disputed.
>>
>>"In the interview in his office in a modern building in Kiev,
>>Rabinovich said he had worked with Nordex for about a year but had
>>broken off the relationship two years ago because of bad publicity
>>about Loutchansky. He said his companies, which are engaged in many
>>businesses, had only legitimate interests...
>>
>>"Lauder, whose mother founded Estee Lauder Cosmetics, created Central
>>European Media in 1994. He predicted last year that the company would
>>have annual revenues of $1 billion within five years, but it has run
>>up steady losses to date. The company reported last month that it lost
>>$30 million in 1996 compared with losses of $18.7 million in 1995 and
>>$20.5  million in 1994.
>>
>>"When the company sought to enter the Ukraine market a year ago,
>>Fertig said, its executives were referred to Rabinovich and his
>>partners in Studio 11 by Oleksandra Volkov, an assistant and close
>>adviser to Kuchma.
>>
>>Western diplomats and businessmen said Volkov also owned a piece of 
>>Studio 11, but Fertig said he was unaware of that investment.
>>
>>"Along with the recommendation from the presidential adviser, the
>>company executives also were impressed by a photograph in Rabinovich's
>>office that showed him with President Clinton and Vice President Al
>>Gore, according to a person close to the company.
>>
>>"The photograph was taken in late 1995 at a Democratic fund-raising
>>party in Miami, Rabinovich said. He said he had not donated money to
>>the Democrats but had been invited to the event by Bennett LeBow, an
>>American businessman whose interests include Liggett Group, the big
>>cigarette manufacturer.
>>
>>"...Last summer Central European Media negotiated a partnership
>>agreement with Studio 11 Group that gave the American company a 50
>>percent economic interest in the operation, which was broadcasting
>>about five hours a day on Ukrainian television.
>>
>>"Studio 11 received a license last fall to expand its broadcast time
>>on Ukraine's commercial channel, UT 2, to nine hours a day, including
>>prime time. The license, also sought by other companies, was issued
>>despite a moratorium imposed by Parliament.
>>
>>"...The Ukraine deal is important to Central European Media. In a
>>stock offering last fall, which raised $132 million, the company said
>>the Ukraine partnership had more than doubled its market reach.
>>
>>"A cablegram from the embassy to the State Department in Washington in
>>September raised questions about Rabinovich's background and said he
>>was 'largely considered beyond the reach of the law in Ukraine,'
>>according to a copy provided to The New York Times." (End quote).
>>
>>Once again we see the worldwide Media Monopoly extend its suzerainty
>>thanks to their Money Power and the betrayal of the people by the
>>Pres. of Ukraine and other Judases.
>>
>>
>>>for further info contact http://www.nswpp.org



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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:31:11 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:23:16 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
>>Tavish II) wrote:
>>
>>>Well I'll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>>>Communists and who they were!
>>>
>>>Look:
>>>
>>>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>>>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>>>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>>>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>>>
>>>Trotsky's political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>>>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief  stay at
>>>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>>>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>>>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>>>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>>>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>>>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>>>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>>>
>>>At the party's Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>>>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>>>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>>>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>>>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>>>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>>>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>>>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>>>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>>>Results and Prospects.
>>>
>>>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>>>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>>>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>>>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>>>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>>>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>>>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>>>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>>>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>>>Committee.
>>>
>>>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>>>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>>>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>>>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>>>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>>>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>>>revolution......
>>>
>>>Above found at:
>>>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>>>
>>>Let's review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>>>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>>>
>>>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>>>
>>>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>>>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>>up and kill Jews."
>>>
>>>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>>>
>>>>>said!>
>>>
>>>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>>>
>>>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>>>
>>>Try also:
>>>
>>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>>>
>>>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>>>Try:
>>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>>>
>>>which states:
>>>
>>>"Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>>>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924."
>>>Let's see ol' Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>>>Architect of the Red Army too!
>>>
>>>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>>>
>>>"Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>>>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>>>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>>>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>>>common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>>
>>>Consider this:
>>>
>>>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>>>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>>>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>>>Russian Bolshevik party.
>>>
>>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>>>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>>>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>>>824-827).
>>>
>>>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>>>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>>>
>>>Here is the link:
>>>
>>>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>>
>>>You will run across this:
>>>
>>>Welcome to the Library of Congress's Soviet Archives exhibit. 
>>>
>>>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress'
>>>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>>>
>>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>>
>>>Once there try all "exhibits" but if you really want an eye-opener try
>>>this exhibit:
>>>
>>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>>>
>>>You will see as an opener the following:
>>>
>>>"The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>>>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>>>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>>>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>>>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>>>military through media propaganda -- as well as through personal
>>>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>>>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>>>support for the Soviet war effort.
>>>
>>>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>>>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>>>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC's
>>>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>>>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>>>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>>>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il'ia Ehrenburg,
>>>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>>>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>>>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>>>
>>>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>>>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>>>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>>>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>>>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>>>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military....."
>>>
>>>Footnote:
>>>
>>>The BUND:
>>>
>>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>>>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>>>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>>>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>>>III, pp 824-827).
>>>
>>>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>>>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>>>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>>>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>>>"On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>>>descended from rabbinical families" (Univ. Jew.
>>>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>>>
>>>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>>>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>>>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>>>consequently, the " reaction to those excesses was
>>>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . ."(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>>>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>>>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>>>Jewish "Bund." 
>>>
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>>>
>>>                Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>>>                I will find all credible sites
>>>                that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>>>                Till the next installment!



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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:26:48 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:22:55 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:13:27 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>
>>>Is this any more different than the documented fact that 300,000 JEWS
>>>were involved with the Wehrmacht, up to and including JEW generals,
>>>working for Hitler??
>>>
>>>jacob bekker wrote:
>>>> odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>>>> > sperati wrote:
>>>
>>>> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> > > Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>>> > > From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>>> > > Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>>
>>>> > > From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>>> > > that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>>> > > ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>>> > > group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>>
>>>> > > The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>>> > > titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>>> > > appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>>> > > to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>>> > > >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>> > > North Shore News
>>>> > > February 2, 1997
>>>
>>>> > > Insights from abroad
>>>> > > Doug Collins
>>>
>>>> > > TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>>> > > that is ignored in Canada.
>>>
>>>> > > When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>>> > > served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>>
>>>> > > The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>>> > > about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>>
>>>> > > There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>>> > > was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>>> > > transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>>
>>>> > > At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>>> > > married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>>> > > generals, and 23 colonels.
>>>
>>>> > > Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>>> > > Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>>> > > more. The research is continuing.
>>>
>>>> > > Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>>> > > in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>>> > > alive.
>>>
>>>> > > Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>>> > > father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>>
>>>> > > Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>>> > > whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>>
>>>> > > A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>>> > > the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>>
>>>> > > The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>>> > > Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>>> > > he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>>> > > and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>>> > > documents in the process.
>>>
>>>> > > The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>>> > > Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>>> > > could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>>
>>>> > > A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>>> > > the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>>
>>>> > > He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>>> > > about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>>> > > ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>>
>>>> > > Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>>> > > used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>>> > > Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>>> > > what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>>
>>>> > > British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>>> > > international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>>> > > produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>>> > > Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>>
>>>> > > Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>>> > > Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>>> > > was a Jew.
>>>
>>>> > > Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>>
>>>> > > As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>>> > > full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>>> > > one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>>
>>>> > > But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>>> > > Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>>
>>>> > > As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>>> > > knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>>> > > term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>>
>>>> > > A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>>
>>>> > > After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>>> > > the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>>> > > Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>>> > > Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>>> > > plotting against Hitler.
>>>
>>>> > > The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>>> > > and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>>> > > and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>>> > > to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>>
>>>> > > All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>>> > > able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>>> > > wonder why?
>>>
>>>> > > ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>>> > > right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>>> > > the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>>> > > necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>
>>>> > If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>> > definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>> > their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>>
>>>==============================================
>>>Phillips
>>>
>>>There is one very significant omission: I believe that Reinhard
>>>Heydrich,
>>>head of the SD (intelligence arm of the SS) was partly Jewish. As you
>>>said, there were complex rules pertaining to persons of mixed race
>>>thaat
>>>depended on the degree of mixture.
>>>===========
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:13:54 -0600, slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest
>>>Slepokura) wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <898579884snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>, A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>>>> In article <358ea2c7.30351215@news.erols.com>
>>>>>            davic@erols.com "David Goldman" writes:
>>>>> > >> The people who collaborated with the Nazis were the Arabs.. Remember the
>>>>> > >> mufti of Jerusalem.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Nazi Zionist collaboration is thoroughly documented; there was an article
>>>>> in about 1980 in History Today (I've got it somewhere) by a Jewish historian
>>>>> Jacob Boas which covered the Nazi sponsorship of a Zionist expedition to
>>>>> Palestine; there was a special medal struck which had a swastika on one
>>>>> side and a Magan David on the other. It appears that the Nazis changed their
>>>>> mind with typical pragmatic hypocrisy when they needed Arab support come the
>>>>> war, although there is no doubt that there was a genuine friendship between
>>>>> the Arab nationalists and the National Socialists.
>>>>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>>
>>>>Orest Slepokura:
>>>
>>>>There were many instances of such collaboration. Take the case of Dr.
>>>>Joachim Prinz, a Zionist rabbi. In 1934, Dr. Prinz published a book
>>>>entiled *Wir Juden* 
>>>>(We, Jews) wherein he hailed Hitler's rise to power. Seems he viewed this as a
>>>>defeat for liberalism and, hence, a very good outcome for Jews. 
>>>
>>>>"[T]he fortunes of liberalism are lost," he wrote gleefully. "The only
>>>>form of political life which has helped Jewish assimilation is sunk." See:
>>>
>>>>The victory of Nazism ruled out assimilation and mixed marriages as an
>>>>option for Jews. Said Prinz: "We are not unhappy about this." 
>>>
>>>>His book contained a lot of unblushing praise for Nazi ideology.
>>>
>>>>Later on, Dr. Prinz emigrated to the United States, where he eventually became
>>>>a vice-chairman of the World Jewish Congress and a leading figure in the World
>>>>Zionist Organization. 
>>>
>>>>Apparently, he was also quite good friends with Golda Meir.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 9 Aug 1998 22:03:13 GMT, kaszubik@aol.com (Kaszubik) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi there,
>>>>>
Subject: Re: ZYCLON B SOLD BY JEWISH COMPANY TO NAZIS
>>>>>From: Alexander Sharon 
>>>>>Date: Sun, Aug 9, 1998 13:47 EDT
>>>>>Message-id: <35CDE0C8.511620EF@cadvision.com>
>>>
>>>>>Kaszubik wrote the truth again:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>>>> A little known fact is that a Jewish business in New York City produced
>>>>>Zyclon
>>>>>> B and sold it to Germany where it sold as a commodity. What this means is
>>>>>that
>>>>>> we have yet another example of MURDER FOR PROFIT (of their own people!). We
>>>>>> already know who murdered Jesus Christ, that can not be disputed. Let me
>>>>>ask
>>>>>> you: Why are so many Jewish doctors involved with partial-birth abortions?
>>>>>That
>>>>>> is the new Holocaust on the rest of the world. I know the holocaust took
>>>>>place,
>>>>>> I don't doubt that. It is indeed a tragic period in history for us Poles.
>>>
>>>>>It appears that another imbecile has joined the noble ranks of the town
>>>>>idiots of
>>>>>scp.
>>>
>>>>KK>Please take a deep breath and relax. I realize that the truth must be almost
>>>>too much for you to deal with. 
>>>
>>>>>Welcome aboard wanker.
>>>>>And what bothers you?
>>>>Are you trying to hide your family murky past during
>>>>>WWII by
>>>>>"exposing" Jewish attrocities?
>>>
>>>>KK> I have cousins who were murdered at Stutthof but they didn't deserve it.
>>>>The legacy and atrocities of the jews is well known already. Your reaction
>>>>clearly shows the guilt in which the jews can hardly contain and is eating away
>>>>at their minds. 
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Alexander Sharon
>>>
>>>>KK> Perhaps Aleksander Zydowicz in older times? 



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On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:19:03 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sat, 09 May 1998 04:22:46 GMT, white_guy88@hotmail.com (Lenny)
>wrote:
>>On Fri, 8 May 1998 18:51:08 -0400, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
>> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 4 May 1998, irgun1943 wrote:
>>
>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>>      I sympathize with people being forced into prostitution.
>>>>      However, your intent is to promote hatred of israel and the Jewish
>>>>      people.
>>>>      No one wants your women. No one needs your women.
>>>>      They come illegally into Israel.
>>>>       Why not whore for the Germans? Ukrainians are good at that.
>>>>                                            irgun43
>
>>>   Despite your professed sympathies, the rest of your statements don't
>>> stand scrutiny. These women are imported illegaly into Israel because
>>> there is obviously a demand, market, there for young slavic shikse.
>>> There would not be the trafficking, if there were no demand. 
>
>>> "They come illegally ..."  Well it appears that many arrive quite legally
>>> on promises/expectations of other work. Others are brought in, imported,
>>> illegaly.
>
>>> Israel is a country in which there are no laws prohibiting the buying
>>> and selling of human beings as merchandise.
>>> Also prostitution is legal in Israel,  and although brothels are 
>>> illegal, this law seems to be more honoured in the breach. 
>>> The article did not single out Israel, however whereas in other countries
>>> these things are at least illegal, that doesn't appear to be the case
>>> in Israel. 
>>> Your last sentence is definitely a statement intended to promote hatred.
>
>> The jews have a long history in slave trading. They financed and
>>promoted the slavery of the negroes, which is now resulting in the
>>racial mess we now have in America. *( For info on the jewish
>>involvement in the negro slave trade go to the following web site
>>http://www.tiac.net/users/lhl/Jews_and_Slavery.html
>> Now the jews are turning their hooked noses toward the white Eastern
>>European women, it is no wonder , these parasites of humanity abused
>>these people under communism now they abuse them sexually. It is the
>>nature of these people to destroy, like a parasite destroys it's host.
>> May the white people of the world wake up before it's too late!
> 



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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:17:37 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Sep 1998 15:19:23 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 17:06:54 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>
>>>PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> dddddddddddddd
>>>> 
>>>> Grigori, if you do not know or do not believe me, please read the
>>>> monograph about Lazar Kaganowich by his American cousin titled The Wolf
>>>> of the Kremlin.  Stven eventually was given permission by Brezhnev to
>>>> visit his uncle in Moscow.  Look in Stevens book at the photo of his
>>>> aunt Rosa and unkle Mikhail Kaganovich who was shot with the blessing of
>>>> Lazar and Rosa for treason which was sympathy for Israel.
>>>> 
>>>> Mikhail learned zionsim on his trip in USA during WW II and he was
>>>> commissar of Soviet aviation.
>>>> 
>>>> Pawlikowski deserves from you apology, but I doubut he will get it.
>>>> 
>>>> Some Jews are simply michigene
>>>> ---------
>>>> RAgan
>>>> 
>>>> Grigori Khaskin wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > PAWLIKOWSKI (polhistsoc@earthlink.net) wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > : Klan of Kaganoviches, Soviet Jews who ran USSR at that time (Rosa
>>>> > : Kaganowich, M.D. being at that time Stalins wife) felt scorned by
>>>> > : Israel.  Hell know no furry as the woman scorned!
>>>> >
>>>> > What interesting here, that all it is lie, but the name of Lazar
>>>> > Kaganovich.
>>>> >
>>>> > #1. Kaganovich had no "clan", especially one who was running USSR.
>>>> >
>>>> > Better you, patologycal judofob, invent something new, remotely close to
>>>> > reality, like "Georgian Djugashvili when studied in christian seminary was
>>>> > forcefullyu converted to Judaizm and than under name Stalin
>>>> > successfully tried to kill all polish christians worldwide".
>>>> >
>>>> > #2. STalin never had a wife with the name "Rosa", not talking about Rosa
>>>> > Kaganovich, M.D. because:
>>>> >
>>>> > #3. Lazar Kaganovich NEVER have a sister Rosa Kaganovich.
>>>> >
>>>> > That lies you are repeating was put in circulation with Russian
>>>> > antisemitic blacj hundred organization "Pamiat" in the end of 80th and
>>>> > was exposed countless times as an open lie in Russian periodicals.
>>>> >
>>>> > #4. Affiliation of patologycal commie Kaganovich and Israel came from the
>>>> > same garbage dumpster.
>>>> >
>>>> > #5. Stalin with the help of his henchmen Beria at the time was preparing
>>>> > the wholesale deportation Jews to death camps in Siberia, and started to
>>>> > unfold so-called "Case of Jewish doctors", implicating all Jewish M.D. who
>>>> > worked in Kremlin hospital killing of communist party leaders admitted to
>>>> > hospital. It had to become a spark to deportation. Thanx G-d the bastard
>>>> > died himself on Purim night and deportation was aborted.
>>>> >
>>>> > Does it look, like that scenario was running by a jews? Dear
>>>> > Padlikowsky? Maybe unexisted M.D. Kaganovich tried to get rid of worldwide
>>>> > known M.D. in Moscow?
>>>> >
>>>> > You are laughable, moron.
>>>> >
>>>> > With utmost sincerity,
>>>> >
>>>> > G.K.
>>>> >
>>>> > : USSR hoped to control Arab oilpipes then going  through Israel.
>>>> >
>>>> > Pipelines THROUGH Israel? Pumping oil there in 1940th? Time to call Mr.
>>>> > Padlikowsky a veterinarian, and teacher in geography.
>>>> >
>>>> > : USSR staged Kielce and other pogroms to stock Palestine with Soviet
>>>> > : Jews  but these indoctrinated Jews did not bother with USSR once in
>>>> > : Israel.
>>>> >
>>>> > No, no. Glory of Kielce is a badge of honor on your antisemitic mighty
>>>> > chest.
>>>> >
>>>> > But what pogrom in Kielce has in common with stocking of Palestine with
>>>> > SOVIET jews? Especially when all info about Kielce was immediately
>>>> > SUPPRESSED for ten's of years?
>>>> >
>>>> > Why it was almost IMPOSSIBLE to get from Russia to Israel all that years??
>>>> > And it was a multitude of jews who was refused an exit visas and instead
>>>> > of Near East were sent to Far North?
>>>> >
>>>> > : Elementary HErmie HH
>>>> > : ---------
>>>> > : Pawlikowski
>>>> >
>>>> > Unfortunately, that tipe of lies almost never elementary. despite such a
>>>> > lies have been produced by thou who have one convolution in the brain, and
>>>> > even this one was straiten by Waffen SS side-cap. Unfortunately a rebuke
>>>> > required and time had been waisted for such an imbecile.
>>>> >
>>>> > With utmost sincerity,
>>>> >
>>>> > G.K.
>>>
>>>
>>>It seems that the Russian JEWs, and their lackeys have already forgotten
>>>who established the Soviet secret Police, forerunners of the dreaded KGB
>>>- it was that great JEW Felix DZERZHINSKI!!!
>>>
>>>It was the secret police that engaged in genocide - first on the
>>>Russians, then the more than 30 million Ukrainians murdered by the JEW
>>>Kommissars!!!
>>>
>>>How many tens of millions bodies does it take to REMEMBER - that it was
>>>the SOVIET JEWS who first engaged in genocide?



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On Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:11:13 -0600, newdawn1@juno.com wrote:

>Couple months ago, Mossad was involved in a failed operation in Jordan.  This
>was their special way of thanking King Hussien, totally embarrassing their
>closest ally in the ME.  They used forged Canadian passports for the second
>time, after promising earlier not to do it again.  Nazi Zionists in the
>Canadian government, came to Israel's rescue and helped it weather that
>storm.
>Now, Switzerland is the latest victim of the Nazi Zionists plans.  At least
>five Mossad spies were caught red handed violating Switzerland sovereignty
>and national interests.  I'm not surprised by the act, its part of Nazi
>Zionists plan to steal and control the resources of any country they can get
>their filthy hands on, they make Nazi Germans look like amateurs.  I am very
>concerned with the suspicious attitude demonstrated by some Swiss officials,
>especially in the Foreign Ministry, they actually tried to keep the matter
>quite, as if Switzerland was the guilty party.  The swiss people should
>demand their government officials to provide full accounting of who knew what
>and when, and if other spy operations were covered up.  I'm sure this not the
>first or last Mossad operation.
>The Nazi Zionists will claim that they are defending the "free" world against
>terrorism, but they're the true wholesale terrorists.  They've occupied
>Palestine for fifty years now, while operating the biggest Concentration Camp
>in history there.  Nazi Zionists killed and ethnically cleansed millions of
>Palestinians (Christians and Muslems alike), they robbed Palestinians of
>everything even their future.  What else would drive young people to blow up
>themselves to kill some criminal Nazi Zionists.  Don't be fooled by their
>propaganda, they will do anything and everything to enslave every non-Jews
>"not descendent of Adam".  Non-Jews are considered less than animals and have
>no rights, they're not protected by any laws governing the human (i.e. jews)
>relationships.  By the way, Nazi Zionists like Director Steven Speilberg,
>would like you to believe that Jews are the only civilians victimized in the
>WWs.  The truth is, more Christians civilians were killed, and certainly more
>Russian civilians than the exaggerated 6 million Jews, but you see, only Jew
>life counts.
>I think certain disloyal elements in Switzerland are compromising the
>national interests to allow the Nazi Zionist to further black mail
>switzerland out of numerous amount of gold reserve.  Switzerland was truly
>neutral during WWs.  As a sovereign state, it did business with both
>imperialist powers.  As a result, it successfully guaranteed peace and
>prosperity for its people.  The Nazi Zionists are penalizing Switzerland for
>its courageous stand, by requiring it to pay compensation for being truly
>neutral.  Nazi Zionists are insane, they're one of biggest war criminals
>throughout history and now they stand in judgement of a country that had
>nothing to do with WWs.  Swiss people need to reject and eject the Nazi
>Zionists, they should counter that Nazi Zionists in Israel have the largest
>number of outstanding UN resolutions, which they are not complying with.
>Switzerland should not compromise its long honorable stand by dealing with
>the Nazi Zionists.  I don't see the Nazi Zionists black mailing De Beers, the
>jewish controlled diamond mafia, for doing business with the Germans, I
>wonder why???
>Here in the US, Nazi Zionists black mail politicians into diverting billion$
>in tax payers money to subsidize their criminal State of Israel.  And to show
>their gratitude they spied and stole numerous valuable secrets and sold them
>to the highest bidders, as illustrated the by case of the convected Nazi
>Zionist spy, Jonathan Pollard. Nazi Zionists black mailed US politicians into
>certifying an Extradition Treaty where the US extradited tens of its citizens
>and Israel is not required to reciprocate, as clearly shown by the case of
>Samuel Sheinbein, a US citizen wanted in mutilation/burning murder case in
>Maryland but escaped to Israel and is now claiming to be a Nazi Israeli,
>although he's never been to Israel.  Israel is not  considering when to
>deport him but weather they should.  In a ploy to cover up the embarrassing
>case, they're suggesting a compromise by letting him go, in return he would
>serve his sentence in Israel.  This ploy is trying to achieve two things:
>  a. It implies that he does not get sentenced to death for
>     allegedly butchering his victim in cold blood.
>  b. Once he's back to Israel, the Nazi Zionist President of
>     Israel can pardon him in the near future, as he's done
>     in the past for all kind crimes against non-Jews.
>I feel sorry for the poor victim's family, if the killer was non-jew, US
>justice would give him what he deserves!!!
>Local phone numbers for Congress are listed in the blue section of the phone
>book.  Tell them you don't support the new Nazi State.
>
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On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:01:24 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org wrote:

>What is your problem, that you can not intelligently respond to the
>article??
>
>The mantra of the Jews is to wail and moan about "antisemitism".  (And
>their moaning does indeed have the intensity of religious fervour).
>According to the Jews, generations of demonic Christians practiced
>racial/religious discrimination against the Jews.  The Jews claim that
>Christian mothers for generations have nurtured their young with
>antisemitism as naturally as they nurture them with milk.  
>
>The phenomenon of "antisemitism" deserves critical study.  Of course,
>the very word antisemitism is itself a misnomer, a characteristic
>Jewish attempt to obfuscate the issues at hand (we are not concerned
>here with Semites, but with the racial/ethnic/cultural group of Jews;
>Jews imply here, incorrectly, that criticism of them is criticism of
>all Semitic peoples).  To listen to the Jews, "antisemitism" goes back
>to Jesus Christ himself and to the Christian scriptures.  
>
>Having observed the Jews from childhood and sharing close contacts
>with them in academia and in business, I have had considerable
>opportunity to speculate on their "antisemitism."  I myself was raised
>to regard all humans as equals, regardless of race/ethnicity/religion.
>Growing up, I felt, if anything, a sympathy for the Jews (just because
>there was so much discussion, so much literature published on the
>topic, I assumed that there must be something legitimate to
>"antisemitism").  In vain, however, I sought within myself the
>roots of some prejudice against the Jews.  I came to the conclusion
>that all of this moaning and groaning and shedding of crocodile tears
>is a lie.  Moreover, it is essentially racist and ethnocentric.  It is
>shamelss deception used to advance the interests of one group. 
>
>Jews are uncanny in their ability at recognizing an opportunity to
>advance their own economic/social/political/moral position by crying
>"antisemitism."  They are strategists par excellance. How do they
>sniff out this "antisemitism"? How do they learn to recognize an
>"antisemite"?  
>
>In reality, "antisemitism" was born of the Jews' own deep hatred for
>non-Jews and their religious teachings which promote discrimination
>against non-Jews.  The Israeli scholar Israel Shahak states: "Judaism
>is imbued with a very deep hatred towards Christianity, combined with
>ignorance about it" (quote p. 97, Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The
>Weight of Three Thousand Years, London: Pluto Press, 1994, foreward by
>Gore Vidal).  Knowing no tradition of democracy or intellectual
>freedom, the Jews for centuries were herded like cattle by
>their rabbis.  The very ghetto system has its origin in the teachings
>of Judaism and in the leadership of the rabbis.  Isolated socially
>from non-Jews, the Jews were fed a steady diet of anti-Christian
>hatred by their rabbis, who emphasized the anti-Christian teachings of
>the Jewish Talmud.  
>
>Traditionally, the higher secular and religious authorities in
>Christian society sheltered and protected the Jews.  Why then were
>there periodic revolts against the Jews, in which Christian peasants
>committed acts of violence against Jews?  As an honest Jewish
>historian will admit, the root of these disturbances was ECONOMIC, and
>should not be sought in some mythical  RACIAL/RELIGIOUS hatred of
>Jews.  The Jews were traditionally used by the Christian royalty and
>nobility to manipulate the Christian lower classes.  The Jews were
>tavern-keepers, shop-owners, money-lenders.  They were viewed by the
>Christian peasant as bloodsuckers and parasites.  It is a fact that
>Jews were murdered by Christian peasants, but this happened in what
>was popularly understood as a response to Jewish greed and
>manipulation.  
>
>In response to criticism of the Jews, 19th century Jews formulated the
>theory of hereditary Christian antisemitism.  In reality, the type of
>hatred of which Christians were accused was the same type of hatred
>which JEWS THEMSELVES had harboured against Christians over the
>centuries.  (Of course, the Jews have never been eager to discuss
>their true feelings towards Christians.  These feelings, passed down
>from generation to generation, are responsible for the hopeless racism
>and ethnocentrism we observe daily among the Jews, e.g. the
>idea accepted by both Jews and non-Jews that Jews have the right to
>promote intermarriage only within their own community.  Yet for a
>Christian to really understand this ethnocentrism, he needs access to
>original Hebrew-language sources).  Their beloved Sigmund Freud
>called this psychological device PROJECTION.  The Jews have PROJECTED
>their own anti-Christian hatred onto the Christians.  
>
>Who then is an "antisemite"?  An antisemite is a person disliked by
>the Jews.  
>
>ov
>
>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 07:07:54 GMT, couzijn@/remove-this/ilo.uva.nl
>(Michel Couzijn) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 04:53:30 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org wrote:
>>
>>>The phenomenon of "antisemitism" deserves critical study.
>>
>>Absolutely. But not by you,
>>Michel Couzijn
>>Amsterdam, The Netherlands



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On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:04:38 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:25:45 GMT, sbjarnason@eretz.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:29:22 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>
>>>From Deja News is the attached article,certainly worth further
>>>discussion
>>>
>>>
>>>On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 00:41:19 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene
>>>>Holman) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims made
>>>>>here.      
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>>>>>DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?
>>>>>
>>>>>        None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>>>>>individual "survivors", and no "survivor" claims actually to have
>>>>>witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No mounds
>>>>>of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing the job,
>>>>>no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no records, no
>>>>>demographic statistics.
>>>>>
>>>>>        On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>>>>>forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>>>>>comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>>>>>figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>>>>> >I can offer some coins, stamps for collectors/collections, even a
>>>>>> >military parachute, as well as Malaysian 22k plated gold jewellery.
>>>>
>>>>Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
>>>>half of the original 600,000 JEWs in Germany were in the German
>>>>military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
>>>>extort money from gullible governments!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>        2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>>>>>RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>>>>>WORLD
>>>>>WAR TWO?
>>>>
>>>>>        Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>>>>>interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German war
>>>>>effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of their
>>>>>race or national origin alone.
>>>>
>>>>>        3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>>>>>CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
>>>>
>>>>>        Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>>>>>their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>>>>>Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist subversion
>>>>>during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were highly
>>>>>overrepresented in government, commercial, and media positions.
>>>>>However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger of
>>>>>internment once the war broke out.
>>>>
>>>>>        On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>>>>>Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply because
>>>>>the German government had removed Jews from influential positions and
>>>>>transferred power back to the German people. The boycott order and the
>>>>>Jewish war against Germany were reported in the world print and
>>>>>broadcast media of the time. False stories of German "death camps" were
>>>>>in fact circulated even before the outbreak of World War Two. Therefore
>>>>>the German view of the Jewish people as enemy aliens would seem to have
>>>>>been fully justified.
>>>>
>>>>>        4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>>>>>DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
>>>>
>>>>>        Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>>>>>gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
>>>>
>>>>>        5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS IT
>>>>>WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT WAS?
>>>>   
>>>>>        Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>>>>>murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>>>>>were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>>>>>chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official Holocaust
>>>>>lore because it became too difficult to maintain in the face of known
>>>>>fact and because Dachau was in the Allied occupation zone where access
>>>>>to the camp was too easy and unrestricted. 
>>>>
>>>>>        En passant, the brief lifespan of the "Dachau death camp"
>>>>>version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning of
>>>>>the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>>>>>noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>>>>>official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>>>>>Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum. 
>>>>
>>>>>        6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT
>>>>>GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED AT AUSCHWITZ?
>>>>
>>>>>        No. The "gas chamber" exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz could
>>>>>not possibly have been used to carry out executions; it is far too
>>>>>small and it is not even airtight. In the 1980s, American expert Fred
>>>>>Leuchter, who builds gas chambers for American penal systems, took
>>>>>scrapings from the walls of the Auschwitz "gas chamber" for chemical
>>>>>analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is
>>>>>a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.        
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
>>>>1949, long after the war???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>        7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN'T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE PURPOSE?
>>>>
>>>>>        It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>>>>>(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in the
>>>>>same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>>>>>correctional systems throughout the United States today.
>>>>
>>>>>        8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
>>>>
>>>>>        Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of hydrocyanic
>>>>>gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, including the
>>>>>fumigation of lice-infested clothing, the purpose for which it was
>>>>>applied at Auschwitz. Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>>>>>commonly used and available today.
>>>>
>>>>>        9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>>>>>COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
>>>>
>>>>>        Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>>>>>brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>>>>>figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>>>>>read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>>>>>Hoess' blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>>>>>cross examined.
>>>>
>>>>>        10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA FUMIGATED
>>>>>WITH ZYKLON-B?
>>>>
>>>>>        About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>>>>>and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>>>>>only are employed.
>>>>
>>>>>        11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>>>>>ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>>>>>THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
>>>>
>>>>>        It can't be explained, because it could not have happened like
>>>>>that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered the same fate
>>>>>as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
>>>>
>>>>>        12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>>>>>CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>>>>>BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN'T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
>>>>  
>>>>>        Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the six
>>>>>million figure as well. 
>>>>
>>>>>        13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET
>>>>>FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE POPE, THE
>>>>>VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
>>>>>NOT KNOW?
>>>>
>>>>>        Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>>>>>British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>>>>>been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>>>>>were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a potentially
>>>>>powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any contemporary evidence at
>>>>>all during the war that such an event was occurring. 
>>>>
>>>>>        14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>>
>>>>>        About 300,000.
>>>>
>>>>>        15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
>>>>
>>>>>        Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>>>>>Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably appears
>>>>>whenever people are jammed together for long periods without bathing.
>>>>>It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. Ironically, if
>>>>>the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant purposes, more Jews
>>>>>might have survived the concentration camps. Jewish prisoners (as well
>>>>>as many others) also died from starvation and lack of medical attention
>>>>>towards the end of the war when virtually all rail and road transport
>>>>>had come to a standstill due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
>>>>
>>>>>        16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 300,000
>>>>>DIED?
>>>>
>>>>>        5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>>>>>deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>>>>>exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>>>>>was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>>>>>identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>>>>>of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>>>>>the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a "Holocaust".
>>>>
>>>>>        17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE "DEATH CAMPS" SAY THEY SAW
>>>>>BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD HAVE
>>>>>BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
>>>>
>>>>>        A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>>>>>afforded to waste during the Second World War, that's for sure.        
>>>>
>>>>>        18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
>>>>
>>>>>        No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by
>>>>>flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated in open pits.
>>>>>[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>>>>>observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>>>>>American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely to
>>>>>destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in any
>>>>>other way in open pits. The Holocaust "experts" who claim otherwise are
>>>>>either parroting what they have been told without bothering to check
>>>>>their facts, or else they are lying.]
>>>>
>>>>>        19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>>>>>BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A BODY
>>>>>ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
>>>>
>>>>>        About two hours.
>>>>
>>>>>        20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
>>>>
>>>>>        To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead from
>>>>>typhus and other diseases.
>>>>
>>>>>        21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN ALL
>>>>>THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF
>>>>>CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO INCINERATE DURING THE
>>>>>ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
>>>>
>>>>>        About 430,600.
>>>>
>>>>>        22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
>>>>
>>>>>        No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>>>>>per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>>>>>when in heavy operation.
>>>>
>>>>>        23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>>>>>CORPSE?
>>>>        
>>>>>        After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>>>>>time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
>>>>
>>>>>        24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>>HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
>>>>
>>>>>        That remains to be "explained". Six million bodies would
>>>>>produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have been
>>>>>no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz are or
>>>>>anywhere else in Europe.
>>>>
>>>>>        25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE AIR,
>>>>>SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
>>>>
>>>>>        No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the immense
>>>>>amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the camp, nor do
>>>>>they show any evidence of the alleged open pits where the bodies were
>>>>>burned.
>>>>
>>>>>        26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE
>>>>>WHOLE "HOLOCAUST" ISSUE?
>>>>
>>>>>        A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>>>>>September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>>>>>packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>>>>>full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second World
>>>>>War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or any of the
>>>>>wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust. 
>>>>
>>>>>        Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war's end, the
>>>>>liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of articles
>>>>>claiming that the Red Cross was "full of Nazi sympathizers". This
>>>>>charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated Jewish
>>>>>attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles steadily in
>>>>>the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
>>>>
>>>>>        27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
>>>>
>>>>>        Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>>>>>Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>>>>>conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>>>>>literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>>>>>diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>>>>>adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from the
>>>>>published text. 
>>>>
>>>>>        In 1950 Anne Frank's father sued author Meyer Levin, the actual
>>>>>writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. A Jewish judge in
>>>>>New York ordered the records of the court case sealed for 100 years.
>>>>>When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>>>>>noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were interpolations
>>>>>written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, a writing instrument
>>>>>which was not invented until 1950. The original diary was swiftly
>>>>>removed from exhibit and whisked away into a safety deposit box in
>>>>>Israel. It has never been produced for examination since then despite
>>>>>repeated attempts by scholars to view it. 
>>>>
>>>>>        28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>>>>>ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED CORPSES
>>>>>AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
>>>>
>>>>>        Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>>>>>Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>>>>>Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a "Nazi SS
>>>>>man" about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>>>>>of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>>>>>historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>>>>>the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine. 
>>>>
>>>>>        (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>>>>>atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>>>>>remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>>>>>the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>>>>>laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>>>>>be perpetrated by Holocaust "experts" is not surprising in view of the
>>>>>fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme left-wing views
>>>>>and are as quick to apologize for and explain away Stalin's butcheries
>>>>>as they are to invent fraudulent crimes attributed to Adolf Hitler. The
>>>>>almost universally leftist political and social orientation of
>>>>>Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind when
>>>>>examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>>>>>important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>>>>>the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken McVay's
>>>>>refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General Secretary Smith
>>>>>asked him why he did not condemn the mass murders of Stalin.)
>>>>
>>>>>        29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>>>>>SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
>>>>       
>>>>>        Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>>>>>predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would certainly
>>>>>have been in a position to learn about it. Since no such plan existed,
>>>>>the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
>>>>
>>>>>        30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>>>>>EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
>>>>
>>>>>        None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>>>>>deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come to
>>>>>light. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>>>>>Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering the
>>>>>extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis were
>>>>>meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were seized
>>>>>by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied archivists
>>>>>and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them all. Nothing.
>>>>>Zip. Nada. 
>>>>
>>>>>        31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>>
>>>>>        Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>>>>>from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>>>>>they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>>>>>official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>>>>>British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>>>>>Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>>>>>industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that Eichmann
>>>>>was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered in order
>>>>>to silence him.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>In Canada there was adetailed story in Toronto Life about the roles of
>>>>the Reichman and gestetner families in providing assistance to the
>>>>Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public exposure,and
>>>>have tried to restrict distribution of this news, which is available
>>>>from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>        32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED BY
>>>>>THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
>>>>
>>>>>        Slightly less than four million.
>>>>
>>>>>        33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE THE
>>>>>NAZIS?
>>>>
>>>>>        Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>>>>>kill them.
>>>>
>>>>>        34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN'T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>>HAPPENED TO THEM?
>>>>
>>>>>        After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>>>>>States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 300,000,
>>>>>they are all accounted for.
>>>>
>>>>>        35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>>>>>TODAY?
>>>>
>>>>>        It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>>>>>economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>>>>>sums of "guilt money", especially from the German government. It
>>>>>justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>>>>>dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>>>>>billion dollars in assorted "Holocaust reparations" and the ante is
>>>>>growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>>>>>Jewish people to keep the scam going.
>>>>
>>>>>        36. ARE FILMS LIKE "HOLOCAUST", "SCHINDLER'S LIST", AND "THE
>>>>>WINDS OF WAR" DOCUMENTARIES?
>>>>
>>>>>        Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>>>>>They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, not
>>>>>real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals of
>>>>>events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>>>>>screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where Jews
>>>>>are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and the
>>>>>creative and financial sectors of film making. 
>>>>
>>>>>        Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>>>>>that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>>>>>begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, the
>>>>>character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in Spielberg's
>>>>>production of "Schindler's List" was sanitized to the point of being
>>>>>unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost saintly, and yet none
>>>>>of those still living who remember the man have a single good word to
>>>>>say about him. The real Schindler was a confidence artist, a thief, a
>>>>>libertine and degenerate gambler who indulged freely in forced sexual
>>>>>relations with young female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>>>>>and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>>>>>money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>>>>>because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and events
>>>>>like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with the most
>>>>>bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
>>>>
>>>>>        37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE SOME
>>>>>ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>>
>>>>>        Over 100, with more in the works.
>>>>
>>>>>        38. BUT AREN'T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>>>>>ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?
>>>>
>>>>>        Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>>>>>right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>>>>>freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>>>>>explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>>>>>unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>>>>>position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>>>>>genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>>>>>libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>>>>>subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>>>>>from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
>>>>
>>>>>        39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>>>>>VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>>
>>>>>        A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>>>>>always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>>>>>Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>>>>>called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>>>>>hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>>>>>express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>>>>>from many of the postings to Nizkor's Internet playgroups that they
>>>>>have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>>>>>Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>>>>>ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>>>>>cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
>>>>
>>>>>        The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>>>>>hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>>>>>giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those who
>>>>>ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the Holocaust
>>>>>are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned. 
>>>>
>>>>>        Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>>>>>him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>>>>>Revisionist bookseller's offices were burned, and in Toronto
>>>>>Revisionist author Ernst Zundel's home was almost destroyed in an arson
>>>>>attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of show trials lasting
>>>>>over ten years, and after being finally acquitted he has been denied
>>>>>Canadian citizenship and is still battling attempts to deport him to
>>>>>prison and torture in Germany. 
>>>>
>>>>>        An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>>>>>kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>>>>>lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the "crime" of writing
>>>>>pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>>>>>legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>>>>>abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>>>>>only after an international outcry. Schmidt's "crime" was writing a
>>>>>pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>>>>>distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder has
>>>>>been imprisoned so many times he's lost count. Revisionists have been
>>>>>stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure in universities,
>>>>>victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs in the mail, and
>>>>>subjected to constant death threats from Jews and Marxists.
>>>>
>>>>>        THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent people
>>>>>who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by trying to kill,
>>>>>imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. More than anything else,
>>>>>the behavior of the Jews and the governments they influence so strongly
>>>>>proves that the Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>>>>>neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>>>>>silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people who
>>>>>believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults and
>>>>>torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the part of
>>>>>the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have imposed the
>>>>>most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of humanity, and have
>>>>>used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, steal another people's
>>>>>country, and then to slaughter that country's original inhabitants at
>>>>>will, as according to National Public Radio they are doing even now as
>>>>>I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
>>>>
>>>>>        40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>>>>>REVISIONISTS?
>>>>
>>>>>        No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than ever
>>>>>to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the earth
>>>>>understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded them, and
>>>>>robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust lie. There
>>>>>can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the Holocaust will
>>>>>be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at large for what
>>>>>it is: a politically inspired hoax.
>>>>
>>>>>NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>>>>>pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>>>>>information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>>>>>ihrgreg@kaiwan.com - W.S.
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>>> 
>>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>>> 
>>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>>> Stefan Lemieszewski
>>>> 
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> North Shore News
>>>> February 2, 1997
>>>> 
>>>> Insights from abroad
>>>> Doug Collins
>>>> 
>>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>>> 
>>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>>> 
>>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>>> 
>>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>>> 
>>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>>> 
>>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>>> 
>>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>>> alive.
>>>> 
>>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>>> 
>>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>>> 
>>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>>> 
>>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>>> documents in the process.
>>>> 
>>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew> could 
>>>> ever have fought for Hitler.
>>>> 
>>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>>> 
>>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>>> 
>>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>>> 
>>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>>> 
>>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>>> was a Jew.
>>>> 
>>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>>> 
>>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>>> 
>>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>>> 
>>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>>> 
>>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>>> 
>>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>>> 
>>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>>> 
>>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>>> wonder why?
>>>> 
>>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled - as Fertiliser



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On 14 Nov 1998 19:31:19 GMT, kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay
SOBC) wanted to write, but since it is a shabbas-goy, the Jew masters
stopped him from posing the questions again:

On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:25:45 GMT, sbjarnason@eretz.zhid.org wrote:

>On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:29:22 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>>From Deja News is the attached article,certainly worth further
>>discussion
>>
>>
>>On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 00:41:19 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene
>>>Holman) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims made
>>>>here.      
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>>>>DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?
>>>>
>>>>        None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>>>>individual "survivors", and no "survivor" claims actually to have
>>>>witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No mounds
>>>>of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing the job,
>>>>no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no records, no
>>>>demographic statistics.
>>>>
>>>>        On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>>>>forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>>>>comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>>>>figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>>>> >I can offer some coins, stamps for collectors/collections, even a
>>>>> >military parachute, as well as Malaysian 22k plated gold jewellery.
>>>
>>>Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
>>>half of the original 600,000 JEWs in Germany were in the German
>>>military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
>>>extort money from gullible governments!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>        2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>>>>RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>>>>WORLD
>>>>WAR TWO?
>>>
>>>>        Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>>>>interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German war
>>>>effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of their
>>>>race or national origin alone.
>>>
>>>>        3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>>>>CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
>>>
>>>>        Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>>>>their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>>>>Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist subversion
>>>>during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were highly
>>>>overrepresented in government, commercial, and media positions.
>>>>However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger of
>>>>internment once the war broke out.
>>>
>>>>        On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>>>>Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply because
>>>>the German government had removed Jews from influential positions and
>>>>transferred power back to the German people. The boycott order and the
>>>>Jewish war against Germany were reported in the world print and
>>>>broadcast media of the time. False stories of German "death camps" were
>>>>in fact circulated even before the outbreak of World War Two. Therefore
>>>>the German view of the Jewish people as enemy aliens would seem to have
>>>>been fully justified.
>>>
>>>>        4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>>>>DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
>>>
>>>>        Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>>>>gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
>>>
>>>>        5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS IT
>>>>WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT WAS?
>>>   
>>>>        Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>>>>murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>>>>were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>>>>chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official Holocaust
>>>>lore because it became too difficult to maintain in the face of known
>>>>fact and because Dachau was in the Allied occupation zone where access
>>>>to the camp was too easy and unrestricted. 
>>>
>>>>        En passant, the brief lifespan of the "Dachau death camp"
>>>>version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning of
>>>>the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>>>>noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>>>>official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>>>>Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum. 
>>>
>>>>        6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT
>>>>GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED AT AUSCHWITZ?
>>>
>>>>        No. The "gas chamber" exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz could
>>>>not possibly have been used to carry out executions; it is far too
>>>>small and it is not even airtight. In the 1980s, American expert Fred
>>>>Leuchter, who builds gas chambers for American penal systems, took
>>>>scrapings from the walls of the Auschwitz "gas chamber" for chemical
>>>>analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is
>>>>a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.        
>>>
>>>
>>>Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
>>>1949, long after the war???
>>>
>>>
>>>>        7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN'T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE PURPOSE?
>>>
>>>>        It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>>>>(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in the
>>>>same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>>>>correctional systems throughout the United States today.
>>>
>>>>        8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
>>>
>>>>        Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of hydrocyanic
>>>>gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, including the
>>>>fumigation of lice-infested clothing, the purpose for which it was
>>>>applied at Auschwitz. Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>>>>commonly used and available today.
>>>
>>>>        9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>>>>COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
>>>
>>>>        Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>>>>brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>>>>figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>>>>read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>>>>Hoess' blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>>>>cross examined.
>>>
>>>>        10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA FUMIGATED
>>>>WITH ZYKLON-B?
>>>
>>>>        About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>>>>and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>>>>only are employed.
>>>
>>>>        11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>>>>ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>>>>THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
>>>
>>>>        It can't be explained, because it could not have happened like
>>>>that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered the same fate
>>>>as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
>>>
>>>>        12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>>>>CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>>>>BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN'T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
>>>  
>>>>        Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the six
>>>>million figure as well. 
>>>
>>>>        13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET
>>>>FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE POPE, THE
>>>>VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
>>>>NOT KNOW?
>>>
>>>>        Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>>>>British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>>>>been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>>>>were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a potentially
>>>>powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any contemporary evidence at
>>>>all during the war that such an event was occurring. 
>>>
>>>>        14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>>        About 300,000.
>>>
>>>>        15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
>>>
>>>>        Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>>>>Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably appears
>>>>whenever people are jammed together for long periods without bathing.
>>>>It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. Ironically, if
>>>>the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant purposes, more Jews
>>>>might have survived the concentration camps. Jewish prisoners (as well
>>>>as many others) also died from starvation and lack of medical attention
>>>>towards the end of the war when virtually all rail and road transport
>>>>had come to a standstill due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
>>>
>>>>        16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 300,000
>>>>DIED?
>>>
>>>>        5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>>>>deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>>>>exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>>>>was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>>>>identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>>>>of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>>>>the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a "Holocaust".
>>>
>>>>        17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE "DEATH CAMPS" SAY THEY SAW
>>>>BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD HAVE
>>>>BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
>>>
>>>>        A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>>>>afforded to waste during the Second World War, that's for sure.        
>>>
>>>>        18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
>>>
>>>>        No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by
>>>>flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated in open pits.
>>>>[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>>>>observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>>>>American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely to
>>>>destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in any
>>>>other way in open pits. The Holocaust "experts" who claim otherwise are
>>>>either parroting what they have been told without bothering to check
>>>>their facts, or else they are lying.]
>>>
>>>>        19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>>>>BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A BODY
>>>>ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
>>>
>>>>        About two hours.
>>>
>>>>        20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
>>>
>>>>        To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead from
>>>>typhus and other diseases.
>>>
>>>>        21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN ALL
>>>>THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF
>>>>CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO INCINERATE DURING THE
>>>>ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
>>>
>>>>        About 430,600.
>>>
>>>>        22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
>>>
>>>>        No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>>>>per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>>>>when in heavy operation.
>>>
>>>>        23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>>>>CORPSE?
>>>        
>>>>        After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>>>>time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
>>>
>>>>        24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
>>>
>>>>        That remains to be "explained". Six million bodies would
>>>>produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have been
>>>>no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz are or
>>>>anywhere else in Europe.
>>>
>>>>        25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE AIR,
>>>>SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
>>>
>>>>        No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the immense
>>>>amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the camp, nor do
>>>>they show any evidence of the alleged open pits where the bodies were
>>>>burned.
>>>
>>>>        26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE
>>>>WHOLE "HOLOCAUST" ISSUE?
>>>
>>>>        A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>>>>September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>>>>packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>>>>full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second World
>>>>War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or any of the
>>>>wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust. 
>>>
>>>>        Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war's end, the
>>>>liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of articles
>>>>claiming that the Red Cross was "full of Nazi sympathizers". This
>>>>charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated Jewish
>>>>attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles steadily in
>>>>the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
>>>
>>>>        27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
>>>
>>>>        Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>>>>Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>>>>conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>>>>literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>>>>diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>>>>adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from the
>>>>published text. 
>>>
>>>>        In 1950 Anne Frank's father sued author Meyer Levin, the actual
>>>>writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. A Jewish judge in
>>>>New York ordered the records of the court case sealed for 100 years.
>>>>When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>>>>noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were interpolations
>>>>written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, a writing instrument
>>>>which was not invented until 1950. The original diary was swiftly
>>>>removed from exhibit and whisked away into a safety deposit box in
>>>>Israel. It has never been produced for examination since then despite
>>>>repeated attempts by scholars to view it. 
>>>
>>>>        28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>>>>ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED CORPSES
>>>>AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
>>>
>>>>        Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>>>>Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>>>>Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a "Nazi SS
>>>>man" about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>>>>of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>>>>historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>>>>the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine. 
>>>
>>>>        (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>>>>atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>>>>remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>>>>the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>>>>laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>>>>be perpetrated by Holocaust "experts" is not surprising in view of the
>>>>fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme left-wing views
>>>>and are as quick to apologize for and explain away Stalin's butcheries
>>>>as they are to invent fraudulent crimes attributed to Adolf Hitler. The
>>>>almost universally leftist political and social orientation of
>>>>Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind when
>>>>examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>>>>important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>>>>the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken McVay's
>>>>refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General Secretary Smith
>>>>asked him why he did not condemn the mass murders of Stalin.)
>>>
>>>>        29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>>>>SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
>>>       
>>>>        Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>>>>predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would certainly
>>>>have been in a position to learn about it. Since no such plan existed,
>>>>the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
>>>
>>>>        30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>>>>EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
>>>
>>>>        None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>>>>deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come to
>>>>light. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>>>>Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering the
>>>>extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis were
>>>>meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were seized
>>>>by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied archivists
>>>>and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them all. Nothing.
>>>>Zip. Nada. 
>>>
>>>>        31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>>        Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>>>>from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>>>>they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>>>>official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>>>>British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>>>>Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>>>>industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that Eichmann
>>>>was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered in order
>>>>to silence him.
>>>
>>>
>>>In Canada there was adetailed story in Toronto Life about the roles of
>>>the Reichman and gestetner families in providing assistance to the
>>>Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public exposure,and
>>>have tried to restrict distribution of this news, which is available
>>>from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
>>>
>>>
>>>>        32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED BY
>>>>THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
>>>
>>>>        Slightly less than four million.
>>>
>>>>        33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE THE
>>>>NAZIS?
>>>
>>>>        Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>>>>kill them.
>>>
>>>>        34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN'T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THEM?
>>>
>>>>        After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>>>>States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 300,000,
>>>>they are all accounted for.
>>>
>>>>        35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>>>>TODAY?
>>>
>>>>        It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>>>>economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>>>>sums of "guilt money", especially from the German government. It
>>>>justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>>>>dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>>>>billion dollars in assorted "Holocaust reparations" and the ante is
>>>>growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>>>>Jewish people to keep the scam going.
>>>
>>>>        36. ARE FILMS LIKE "HOLOCAUST", "SCHINDLER'S LIST", AND "THE
>>>>WINDS OF WAR" DOCUMENTARIES?
>>>
>>>>        Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>>>>They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, not
>>>>real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals of
>>>>events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>>>>screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where Jews
>>>>are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and the
>>>>creative and financial sectors of film making. 
>>>
>>>>        Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>>>>that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>>>>begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, the
>>>>character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in Spielberg's
>>>>production of "Schindler's List" was sanitized to the point of being
>>>>unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost saintly, and yet none
>>>>of those still living who remember the man have a single good word to
>>>>say about him. The real Schindler was a confidence artist, a thief, a
>>>>libertine and degenerate gambler who indulged freely in forced sexual
>>>>relations with young female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>>>>and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>>>>money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>>>>because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and events
>>>>like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with the most
>>>>bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
>>>
>>>>        37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE SOME
>>>>ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>>        Over 100, with more in the works.
>>>
>>>>        38. BUT AREN'T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>>>>ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?
>>>
>>>>        Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>>>>right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>>>>freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>>>>explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>>>>unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>>>>position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>>>>genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>>>>libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>>>>subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>>>>from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
>>>
>>>>        39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>>>>VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>>        A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>>>>always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>>>>Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>>>>called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>>>>hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>>>>express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>>>>from many of the postings to Nizkor's Internet playgroups that they
>>>>have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>>>>Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>>>>ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>>>>cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
>>>
>>>>        The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>>>>hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>>>>giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those who
>>>>ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the Holocaust
>>>>are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned. 
>>>
>>>>        Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>>>>him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>>>>Revisionist bookseller's offices were burned, and in Toronto
>>>>Revisionist author Ernst Zundel's home was almost destroyed in an arson
>>>>attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of show trials lasting
>>>>over ten years, and after being finally acquitted he has been denied
>>>>Canadian citizenship and is still battling attempts to deport him to
>>>>prison and torture in Germany. 
>>>
>>>>        An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>>>>kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>>>>lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the "crime" of writing
>>>>pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>>>>legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>>>>abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>>>>only after an international outcry. Schmidt's "crime" was writing a
>>>>pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>>>>distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder has
>>>>been imprisoned so many times he's lost count. Revisionists have been
>>>>stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure in universities,
>>>>victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs in the mail, and
>>>>subjected to constant death threats from Jews and Marxists.
>>>
>>>>        THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent people
>>>>who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by trying to kill,
>>>>imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. More than anything else,
>>>>the behavior of the Jews and the governments they influence so strongly
>>>>proves that the Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>>>>neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>>>>silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people who
>>>>believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults and
>>>>torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the part of
>>>>the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have imposed the
>>>>most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of humanity, and have
>>>>used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, steal another people's
>>>>country, and then to slaughter that country's original inhabitants at
>>>>will, as according to National Public Radio they are doing even now as
>>>>I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
>>>
>>>>        40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>>>>REVISIONISTS?
>>>
>>>>        No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than ever
>>>>to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the earth
>>>>understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded them, and
>>>>robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust lie. There
>>>>can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the Holocaust will
>>>>be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at large for what
>>>>it is: a politically inspired hoax.
>>>
>>>>NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>>>>pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>>>>information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>>>>ihrgreg@kaiwan.com - W.S.
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>> 
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> 
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>> 
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>> 
>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>> 
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>> 
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>> 
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>> 
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>> 
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>> 
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew> could 
>>> ever have fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>> 
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>> 
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>> 
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>> 
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>> 
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>> 
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>> 
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>> 
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>> 
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>> 
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>> 
>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled - as Fertiliser



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On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:33:37 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On 19 Oct 1998 12:07:17 GMT, deppitybob@aol.compugeek (DeppityBob)
>wrote:
>On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:01:08 -0600, Ed Kadach 
>wrote:
>
>>>Hitler's Jewish Army
>>>
>>>"Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim." --Elie Wiesel
>>>speaking of World War Two.
>>>
>>>"If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing what
>>>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>>>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>>>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>>
>>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>>>'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf
>>>Hitler's knowledge and approval.
>>>
>>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including
>>>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>>>lieutenant generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to
>>>100,000 troops."
>>>
>>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>>>Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's
>>>Cross.
>>>
>>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>>>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>>
>>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish
>>>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>>
>>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>>>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew
>>>and who is an Aryan.''
>>>
>>>Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>>>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>>
>>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>>>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>>>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>>>
>>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>>>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards
>>>(kapos).
>>>
>>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>>>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>>>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>>
>>>Sources:
>>>
>>>William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>>
>>>Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>>
>
>>From the World According to Alex came:
>>
>>
>>
>>Don't tell me, Fred Leuchter, right? Is this supposed to make me throw up
>>again?
>>
>>
>>Dep  
>>
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>"MY SCREENNAME IS LEGION!"
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 05:16:58 +1100, "AussiCro" 
wrote:

>Listen you GOT! I knew an other anti-Semite like you and he went mad. He is
>still in the asylum for the criminally insane.
>So watch it!

HOW CAN ONE DENY THE TRUTH, WHICH HAPPENED ONLY LAST YEAR AND WAS
PUBLICISED WORLDWIDE?

DO  YOU SUPPORT THE ANTI-CHRISTIAN ACTIONS OF THE CURSED CHRISTKILLERS
- THE JEWS??

>sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote in message
>>On Sat, 31 Oct 1998 01:23:49 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>>wrote:
>>>On Wed, 26 Nov 1997 14:00:33 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>>>wrote:

>>>>OyVay & NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just do not like for the world to know how
>>>>rotten, and anti-Christian the cursed JEWS really are!!!

>>>>In Canada, the damned JEWS even had the Cross removed from the
>>>>cenotaph, for the Remembrance Day ceremonies!!

>>>>Article attached.

>>>>There has been worldwide revulsion, and complaints about the damned
>>>>JEWS for doing this.

>>>>On 26 Nov 1997 04:07:29 GMT, jbellingxx@aol.com (Jbellingxx) wrote:

>>>>>Why does Nizkor list ISP's on their Web-site for everyone who disagrees
>with
>>>>>their opinions?  Why do they do that?  Why do they list instructions on
>how to
>>>>>mail bomb people who disagree with their opinions-these champions of
>social
>>>>>justice and free speech?  Sing to "Happy days are here again:

>>>>>McCarthy Days are here again
>>>>>The Nizkooks strike but you won't know when
>>>>>get a mail bomb sent from yer old pal Ken
>>>>>Nizkook days are here again

>>>>>They'll publicize your ISP's
>>>>>They'd like to have you on your knees
>>>>>They're busier than a nest of bees
>>>>>Nizkook days are here again
>>>>>
>>>>>protect your precious CD rom
>>>>>Watch out before you are mail bombed
>>>>>
>>>>>They love to put in false complaints
>>>>>Beware of lies the Nizkook paints
>>>>>Within this group one will find no saints
>>>>>Nizkook days are here again....
>>>>>
>>>>>Ach!  I'm a song writer!  Move over, Irving Berlin!
>>>>>Ich bin noch ein Berliner!


>>>In Edmonton Canada, JEWS forced the removal of the Cross from the
>>>Cenotaph, commemmorating Remembrance Day.

>>>Len Dolgoy, past president of the Jewish Federation of Edmonton, and
>>>also the regional representative on the Canadian Jewish Congress,  had
>>>arranged for the removal of the Cross at the Remembrance day
>>>celebrations.

>>>The Strathcona Legion, representing victims and their families fielded
>>>many complaints, particularly from war widows and others who had lost
>>>family members.


>>>Mind you, the same JEWS do not mind that they will be having a 25 foot
>>>scrap iron menorah cluttering up the lawn in front of the provincial
>>>Parliament Buildings, to supposedly celebrate the JEW holiday of
>>>Hannukah!!!!

>>>It seems that the JEWs can have their religious symbol in front of the
>>>public, but the Cross, representing the millions of Christians who
>>>died, is not to be permitted!!!!

sven 88


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On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:02:33 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:39:30 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>>Another JEW Rabbi in NY state has been caught  dealing drugs - this
>>time inside a prison!!!
>>
>>Rabbi Eli Gottesman,a chaplain at a federal medium security prison at
>>Ray Brook, NY got caught with a large bottle filled with sealed
>>balloons of cocaine and marijuana.
>>
>>He is a former head of the "who's Who in canadian Jewry", and has been
>>a chaplain of the year named by the NY Board of rabbis.
>>
>>
>>
>>On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:52:54 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>>
>>>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>>>Christ.
>>
>>>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>>>business.
>>>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>>>hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>>
>>>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>>
>>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>>
>>NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>>rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to
>>launder  and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian
>>narcotics dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a
>>synagogue and a yeshiva in Brooklyn. 
>>
>>The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought
>>together a collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York
>>representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who
>>purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with
>>ties to a close-knit Jewish community. 
>>
>> At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions
>>of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively
>>modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from
>>American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the
>>Colombian drug lords. 
>>
>>"Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>>traffickers, and the  cynical act of using religious institutions to
>>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary
>>Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in
>>announcing the charges. 
>>
>>Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford
>>Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in
>>Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day
>>before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy
>>to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of
>>5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid
>>federal cash-transaction reporting requirements. 
>>
>>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of
>>320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was
>>released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal
>>complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in
>>custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst,
>>the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case. 
>>
>>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used
>>court-authorize wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint
>>charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by
>>taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a
>>synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting commissions,
>>writing checks to drug traffickers. 
>>
>>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the
>>name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation
>>Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more
>>than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering
>>transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996. 
>>
>>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to
>>have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and
>>Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in
>>drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000
>>-- the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting
>>requirement -- through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim
>>and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location. 
>>
>>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was
>>listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of
>>people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything
>>about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim
>>Shel Shulem. 
>>
>>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick
>>front and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in
>>Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz
>>Family of Mexico Building." 
>>
>>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people
>>were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who
>>would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis
>>named in the federal complaint. 
>>
>>The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's
>>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service
>>-- began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in
>>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>>officials said. 
>>
>>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other
>>techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in
>>which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in
>>deposits and withdrawals -- transactions, they said, that let the
>>conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits. 
>>
>>Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in
>>Monday's complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five
>>of them -- Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio
>>Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to
>>have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to
>>launder. 
>>
>>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack
>>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40,
>>and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted
>>and stashed the money at an apartment at  243 West 75th St. 
>>
>>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was
>>later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel
>>Shulem.
>>
>>Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made
>>out to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions,"
>>the federal complaint said. 
>>
>>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no
>>formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said.
>>Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the
>>laundered money and divided among the intermediaries. 
>>
>>Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>>community came  into contact with professional money launderers and
>>drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and
>>Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy
>>a Beech Super King aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>>================================================================================
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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 01:47:04 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:26:58 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:06:50 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:
>>
>>>And don't forget the roles of the cursed Christkillers - the damned
>>>JEWS - in the spread of Communism, and their involvement in the murder
>>>of more than 100 millions in this century!!!
>>>
>>>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>>>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>>and activating their  accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>>up and kill Jews."
>>>
>>>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>>>
>>>"Individual revolutionary leaders and Sverdlov -- played a conspicuous
>>>part in the revolution of November, 1917,  which enabled the
>>>Bolshevists to take possession of the state apparatus" (Univ. Jew.
>>>Encyd., Vol. IX, p.668). Here and there in the Universal Jewish
>>>Encyclopedia other Jews are named as co-founders of Russian 
>>>Communism, but not Lenin and Stalin. Both of these, however, 
>>>are said by some writers to be half-Jewish. Whatever the racial
>>>antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet commissariats were 
>>>largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in the Communist
>>>movement was well understood in Russia. "The White Armies which
>>>opposed the Bolsehvik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks 
>>>as common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>>
>>>The Ukrainians were part of the White Army (Gentile) that
>>>opposed the Red Army (loyal to Jewish Commissariats).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sat, 20 Jun 1998 23:41:29 -0000, "ANAS  JZAYRLI"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Since the times of Moses the Jews were oppressors or usurers, all the talent
>>>>of Jews Is concentrated on predatory acts...They have a creed which blesses
>>>>their thieving and misdeeds, they are real liars and bloodhounds, who have
>>>>not only perverted and  alsified the entire Scriptures from beginning to end
>>>>and without ceasing with their interpretations.
>>>>And all of the anxious sighing, longing and hope of their hearts is directed
>>>>to the time when some day they would like to deal with us as they dealt with
>>>>the heathen in Persia  at the time of Esther... O how they love that Book of
>>>>Esther, which is so suitable to their bloodthirsty revengeful,  murderous
>>>>appetite and hopes ! The sun has never shown on such a bloodthirsty and
>>>>revengeful people, who fancy themselves to be the chosen  people so they can
>>>>murder and strangle the heathen. No people under the sun is more greedy than
>>>>they are than they have been and always will be, as one can see from their
>>>>accursed usury. They console themselves that when their Messiah comes, he
>>>>will collect all the gold and silver in the world and divide it amongst
>>>>them.
>>>>Since childhood they have devoured such poisonous hatred against the Goyim
>>>>from  their parents and rabbis, and still devour such without ceasing, that
>>>>flesh and blood, bone and marrow, and has become their life and being. And
>>>>as little as they can alter flesh and blood, bone and marrow, so little can
>>>>they change such pride and envy, they just have to stay that way and be
>>>>ruined, if God does not perform a special miracle.
>>>>
>>>>"The Jews are locusts or caterpillars which are devouring France." Sayings
>>>>often repeated by Napoleon Bonaparte, quoted in Cherep-Spiridovich's
>>>>THE SECRET WORLD GOVERNMENT, page 87.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>



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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:09:11 +0100, joswig@lavielle.com (Rainer
Joswig) wrote:

>> >On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:24:36 -0600, Ed Kadach 
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>WAS THERE REALLY A HOLOCAUST?
>> >>                   By Dr. E. R. Fields
>
>Wasn't this article written my Dr. I. M. Stupid?

Not unless that is your professional designation and alias.

>On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:24:36 -0600, Ed Kadach 
>wrote:
>
>>WAS THERE REALLY A HOLOCAUST?
>>                   By Dr. E. R. Fields
>>
>>   The Holocaust has become the greatest instrument of sympathy
>>which any nation has ever been able to use to gain support for
>>wars, expansion and foreign-aid: This has made Israel the
>>world's sixth strongest military power. The gravest threat to
>>all this wealth and influence is the growing doubt over the
>>question of whether or not a real holocaust of 6 million Jews
>>actual took place.
>>
>>              NUMBERS OF VICTIMS DON'T ADD UP
>>
>>   The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world
>>Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanacs figures were
>>supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Nest the Jewish owned
>>New York Times of Feb. 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish
>>population for that year amounted "to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000
>>in the addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine."
>>How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war
>>years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?
>>   With the rise of Hitler to power there were no more than 4
>>million Jews at the most living in areas occupied by the Third
>>Reich at the height of its power. On June 30, 1965, the
>>West German government announced that some 3,375,000 Jewish
>>holocaust "survivors" had applied for reparations money. The Red
>>Cross reported in 1946 that of registered Jewish camp inmates no
>>more than 300,000 could have died. It is interesting to note
>>that in the Jews real "bible", The Talmud, it is claimed that
>>800,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Romans in Hadrians era. Yet
>>there is no historical evidence supporting this claim.
>>   The Jewish owned New York Times, in 1945 carried an article
>>by the well known Jewish writer C.L. Sulzberger. It openly
>>stated Soviet Russia supplied the figure of 4 million Jews
>>having been put to death "in the gas chambers of Auschwitz."
>>Thus it was the communists and the Jews who initially originated
>>these figures which today are accepted as "gospel truth".
>>   It is claimed that from 1934 to 1945 some 50,000 people died
>>in the huge Bergen-Belsen camp. This count is considered
>>exaggerated, still Time Magazine reports that of this figure
>>20,000 died of typhus during the single month of March, 1945! If
>>nearly half died of this plague in just one month at the end of
>>the war there is no way Bergen-Belsen could have been an
>>"extermination camp".
>>
>>             HIMMLER-"REDUCE DEATHS AT ALL COSTS"
>>
>>   Heinrich Himmler, chief of the Concentration Camps issued
>>orders on Dec. 28, 1942, that "The death rate in the
>>concentration camps must be reduced at all costs." (Source,
>>Reitlinger's book, "The Final Solution.")
>>   The camps had been hit with a deadly typhus epidemic that
>>spread by fleas and body lice. Stomach pain, high fever,
>>emaciation and death can quickly follow. All of the camps were
>>factories and the loss of workers was hurting war production.
>>Inspector of the camps, Richard Glucks responded to Himmler's
>>order on Jan 20, 1943, "Every means will be used to lower the
>>death rates." (Source, Nuremberg Tribunal Document No. 1523.)
>>   On April 10, 1943, Oswald Pohl, head of the Economic
>>Administration Office of the camps issued a letter stating that
>>persons with tuberculosis were being sent to the camps resulting
>>in the "shockingly high mortality figures." (Source: Nuremberg
>>Documents.) Later on Sept. 30, 1943, Pohl was able to show that
>>the camp death rate had been reduced from 8.5% in July, 1942 to
>>2.8% in June 1943.
>>   The German SS arrested Buchenwald Commandant, Karl Koch in
>>1943 for mistreating and even executing some prisoners. After an
>>investigation Koch was found guilty by SS Judge Konrad Morgen
>>and shot. Does this sound like a policy of "extermination?"
>>   With suspicion rapidly rising about the holocaust claim a
>>committee of Jewish leaders from New York and Paris met with
>>communist leaders in Warsaw. There they established the
>>"Committee for the Investigation of War Crimes and War
>>Criminals". It was after this meeting that the announcement
>>was made that all gas chambers were located in Poland.
>>
>>                  THE  PROBLEMS OF MASS GASSING
>>
>>   In 1945 it was announced that gas death chambers existed in
>>all concentration camps in Poland, Germany, Austria and Alsace.
>>Some 15 years later, in 1960, this was revised to the new claim
>>that gas chambers existed only in camps located in Soviet held
>>Poland. Simon Weisenthal of the Los Angeles Holocaust center
>>states in the paper, "Books and Bookmen", April 1975, page 5,
>>"No gassing took place in any camp on German soil."
>>   The pressure had been growing since The Vatican, Red Cross,
>>English Intelligence and German Intelligence chiefs Canaris and
>>Oster (who collaborated with the British) either did not know or
>>believe in rumors of gassings.
>>
>>   This brings up the following questions.
>>   1) Germans are meticulous record keepers but there is not one
>>order for the construction of any gas chamber, no blueprint, no
>>photo of any gas chamber or gassed victims.
>>   2) There have been thousands on investigations of alleged
>>Nazi war criminals, hundreds of trials, yet not one person was
>>ever accused of being involved with actual gassings! No reliable
>>witness on either side has ever come forward who saw a single
>>person gassed-AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN OVER 10,000
>>MASS GASSINGS!
>>   3) Photos of bodies at Dachau and Belsen camps are of
>>prisoners who died of typhus and malnutrition. Many Germans also
>>died from typhus.
>>   4) The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed
>>camp inmates at the end of the war about alleged gas chambers.
>>the response was always the same, "The detainees themselves have
>>not spoken of them." (From the Red Cross document No. 9925, June
>>1946.)
>>
>>             FORCED CONFESSIONS OF GASSINGS
>>
>>   Rudoft Hoess was the commandant of Auschwitz from 1940 to
>>1943. captured by the Soviets they extracted a confession to
>>mass gassings using Zyclon-B gas. Such "confessions" are about
>>as reliable as any forced by Stalin from victims tortured before
>>taking the stand to confess during the Moscow show trials of
>>1936. The communists wrote the "Confession' and Hoess signed it.
>>Later he was hanged. An assistant commandant refused to sign-he
>>died in his cell.
>>   Hoess statement read, "half an hour after having released the
>>gas, they opened the door and started the ventilation machines.
>>They began immediately to extract the bodies while eating and
>>smoking."
>>   Was Hoess trying to get a message across that there were no
>>gassing? Zyclon-B is not "ventable". The manufacturers state
>>Zyclon-B adheres to surface clothing and skin. They say that
>>only after a 24 hour period, wearing a gas mask with the
>>strongest filter, could any bodies be removed without killing
>>such workers. If we believe the Hoess confession that the
>>workers ran into the gas chamber "eating and smoking" - without
>>gas masks - only minutes after the gassing - IF THIS OCCURRED
>>ALL WOULD HAVE DIED!
>>
>>                    GAS STORIES NOT POSSIBLE
>>
>>   The Jew Mosche Pearlmann in his book, "The Capture and Trial
>>of Adolph Eichmann" pages 375 and 385 states Zyclon-B crystals
>>were introduced from the ceilings of the gas chambers and
>>"became immediately gaseous."
>>   The American Cyanamid Co. of Linden N.J. states: "We know of
>>no chemical process whereby HCN (Zyclon-B) may be made to become
>>instantly gaseous upon exposure to air."
>>
>>                  CLAIMS OF WILLIAM SHIRER
>>
>>   Shirer claims the gas was released from overhead through fake
>>shower outlets, (page 970) and quickly killed its victims. The
>>truth is that Zyclon-B gas is lighter than air and would rise to
>>the ceiling so that anyone throwing themselves to the floor
>>would be saved. Shirer also quotes the Soviet written confession
>>signed by Hoess as stating (page 968), "We knew when the people
>>were dead because their screaming stopped." If anyone were
>>actually killed with a cyanide type gas they would die instantly
>>thus there would be no screaming at all. The truth is that
>>Zyclon-B was used to delouse inmates clothing of lice and fleas
>>which carry typhus.
>>
>>               THE PROBLEM OF THE CREMATORIUMS
>>
>>   At the Auschwitz I camp there were only 6 crematory ovens. At
>>the hospital in Auschwitz II there are 46 single cremators. In
>>the Lubin camp there were only 6. THAT'S ALL!  In these three
>>camps 3 to 4 million Jews were supposed to have been
>>exterminated and their bodies cremated. Also, these cremation
>>ovens were very small with only 18' doors and a time period of
>>from 4 to 6 hours burning for each body using a large amount of
>>coal. Cremation for those who passed away was used in the camps
>>to prevent epidemics. Also, no large supplies of coal were ever
>>stored at the camps for cremations.
>>   A VERY INTERESTING NOTE appears only in the German edition of
>>William L. Shirer's book, "The Rise and Fall of the Third
>>Reich." It seems the Didler-Werke Company, which built the
>>crematory ovens, sued Shirer who previously wrote that millions
>>of people were gassed and then burned in this company's ovens.
>>In an out-of-court settlement of the suit Shirer agreed to add
>>the following footnote on page 972 of the German edition:
>>   "The Didler-Werke have raised objection to the name of their
>>firm appearing in the chapter concerning the extermination
>>camps. Dr. S. Trastel, a professor of engineering in a statement
>>of Aug. 1961 established that the measurements are those which
>>are standard for a crematory oven of not very modern design
>>intended for small cemeteries and would be unsuitable for mass
>>burning."
>>   WHY IS THIS DELETED FROM THE ENGLISH EDITION???
>>   On the question of cremating 6,000,000 people - this would
>>leave 15,000 tons of ashes! Such gigantic piles of ashes created
>>over the short 2 1/2 year period the holocaust supposedly took
>>place would have been very difficult to dispose of. No one has
>>ever come forward to report seeing such huge piles of tons of
>>ashes.
>>   It was not until 1960 that the Soviets opened the Auschwitz
>>camp to tourists and independent investigators. No gas chamber
>>could be found. The official answer was that it was "taken to
>>another camp for gassings and then later went into oblivion!"
>>
>>           WHAT EXPERTS SAY ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST
>>
>>   Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes, eminent historian, author of 40
>>books, many standard college texts, noted in Rampart Journal,
>>1967. "It has been demonstrated that there had been no
>>systematic extermination in those camps."
>>   Thies Christopherden, a German soldier and author: "I was at
>>Auschwitz! There was no gas chamber there."
>>   Paul Rassiner, historian and anti-Nazi activist, who served a
>>prison sentence in Buchenwald and the Dora camps stated in 1962.
>>"The claim that a holocaust took place is an historic lie - the
>>most tragic and most macabre imposture of all time."
>>   Prof. Robert Faurisson, a specialist in Document Analysis at
>>the University of Lyon. France, stated on April 25, 1979. "The
>>holocaust lie, which is largely of Zionist origin, has made an
>>enormous political and financial fraud possible, whose
>>principal beneficiary is the state of Israel."
>>
>>                WHY THE HOLOCAUST CAMPAIGN
>>
>>   Hardly a week goes by when there are not stories in the
>>press, on TV-News or movies about the alleged holocaust. What is
>>the long range design for this constant attempt to fill Germans
>>and indeed all Christians with a feeling of guilt over a
>>holocaust which never occurred?
>>   Bernard Postal wrote in the Jewish Week, July 14, 1979, "Not
>>until after the holocaust, did anti-Semitism become taboo. There
>>was a time when anti-Semitic speeches were an open factor in
>>national campaigns. The holocaust put a taboo on overt anti-
>>Semitism among upper-level statesmen and publicists."
>>   S.E.D. Brown of South Africa, a noted journalist writes, "The
>>holocaust instills a guilt complex in those said to be guilty
>>and spreads the demoralization, degeneration, and eventually the
>>destruction of the natural racial elite among a people. This
>>transfers effective political control to the lowest elements who
>>will cowtow to the Jews."
>>   Zionist spokesmen often boast of: "The shattering effect of
>>the holocaust on the Christian conscience resulting in a feeling
>>of collective indebtedness to the Jews."
>>   Massive unending U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel in made possible
>>because anyone who dares to oppose these outrageous giveaways is
>>condemned as being "anti-Semitic" and "insensitive" to holocaust
>>victims.
>>   The Jews hold an unnatural violent hatred for the German
>>people. Jews seek to turn all other peoples of the world against
>>the Germans and keep that nation divided for all time to come.
>>That is why no peace treaty has ever been signed as yet with
>>Germany and they still live under Allied military occupation
>>laws.
>>
>>                 A QUESTION OF FUND RAISING
>>
>>   The Wall Street Journal quotes Jewish professional fund-
>>raising consultant firm of Milton Goldin Co., as saying the main
>>theme of Jewish fund-raising is the holocaust and has been for
>>38 years. When they don't use the holocaust the money collection
>>sharply drops off. Thus the more the Press, TV and Hollywood
>>promotes the holocaust the more money the United Jewish Appeal
>>and other Zionist funds can extract from gullible people.
>>
>>                 HOLOCAUST SILENCES OPPOSITION
>>
>>   Jewish leaders have discovered that by repeating holocaust
>>stories over and over again they can instill a guilt complex
>>within all Gentiles. This effectively silences most critics of
>>Zionist political goals.
sven 88



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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:46:32 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Sat, 04 Apr 1998 15:50:56 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:

It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

>>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>>wrote:
>>Feel free to forward your complaints also to Revenue Canada, either by
>>phone or E-mail.
>>
>>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>>an interview a week ago in local papers,  refuses to answer the
>>questions.
>>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>
>>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>>
>>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>>
>>Perhaps some of the others in North America interested in discussing
>>the Holohoax will also respond.
>>
>>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>
>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>
>>>>>Nothing new here.
>>
>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>
>>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>
>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!
>>
>>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
>>	Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>>
>>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
>>	http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>>
>>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is 
>>Special Investigations Revenue Canada at:
>>	telephone # 204-983-1829
>>
>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>>>>> 
>>
>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>> answer??
>>
>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>
>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>
>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>
>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>
>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>
>>
>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca, or
>>>>>	 http://www.rc.gc.ca
>>
>>	 In Message, put first line of message as: 
>>	ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>             or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>>
>>	They are waiting for your complaints
>>
>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>>
>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>>>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>
>>>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>
>>>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>
>>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>
>>>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>> >               letters?
>>
>>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>
>>>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>
>>>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>
>>>>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>>Brith's butt.
>>
>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>
>>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>
>>>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>
>>>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>
>>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>
>>>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>>
>>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>>Canadian dollars. 
>>
>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>
>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>> >OyVey???
>>
>>>>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>>
>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>
>>>> >Check this out!
>>
>>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>>>>letter just ask.
>>
>>
>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>>>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>>
>>>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>>
>>>>>  The League is working closely
>>>> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office."
>>
>>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>
>>
>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>>
>>>>>That is putting it "lightly".
>>
>>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>>>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>
>>>>>nationalist@juno.com
>>>>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>>>>"http://www.natvan.com"
>>
>>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>>Hillsboro, WV   24946
>>
>>>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail! 
>>
>>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>>>>ADVlist@ListServe.com which contains the 
>>>>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>>>>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com 
>>
>>
>>>>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>>>Canada!!!
>>
>>>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>>
>>>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>>
>>
>>>>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>>>>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return.... and see if it comes
>>>>from anthing called "Nizkor," or claims that it would... won't that be
>>>>fun, Bill? If you don't get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>>>>you've got me, eh?
>>
>>>>Please print this form and send to: 
>>>>The Nizkor Project 
>>>>c/o 
>>>>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>>>>xxxxxx Street 
>>>>Toronto, Ontario  
>>
>>>>Name:________________________________________ 
>>>>Street Address:________________________________________________ 
>>>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
>>>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
>>>>Amount Enclosed: $___________ 
>>
>>>>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
>>>>B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the
>>>>cheque's memo section. 
>>
>>
>>>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>>>[#0235903-43-13] 
>>
>>



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On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:54:42 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:43:14 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>And never forget that the KGB was established by the cursed Polish JEW
>>DZERZHINSKI!!!
>>
>>Never forget that the KATYN murders were by the JEW-led Soviet KGB!!!
>>
>>
>>And don't forget the murders of the UN troops in Lebanon by the JEWS;
>>
>>And don't  forget the genocide of the unarmed civilians at the Q'ana
>>refugee camp by the damn Israelis.
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 19:17:05 -0700, Clancy
>> wrote:
>>
>>>someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>> 
>>>> And don't forget the murders of the British, such as in the King david
>>>> Hotel, by the IRGUN and Stern Gang, involving this great zionist
>>>> gangster!!!
>>
>>
>>>Zionist  terrorist acts from 1939-1996 - part I
>>
>>>1939 
>>>Haganah blew up the Iraqi oil pipeline near Haifa palestine. Moshe Dayan was one of 
>>>the participant in this act. The technique was used again in 1947 at least 4 times.
>>
>>>August 20, 1937-June 29, 1939
>>>During this period, Zionist carrtied out a series of attacks against Arab buses, 
>>>resulting in the seath of 24 persons and wonding 25 others. They are the Master of 
>>>killing people on buses.
>>
>>>Nov.25, 1940
>>>S.S. Patria blown up by Jewish Terrorists in Haifa Harbor, Killing 268 illegal Jewish 
>>>immigrants.
>>
>>>Nov. 6 1944
>>>Zionist Terrorist of Stern gang* assassinated the British Minister Resident in the 
>>>Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.
>>
>>>July 22, 1946
>>>Zionist Terrorist blew up the King david Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the central 
>>>offices of the civilian administarion of the Governemnt of Palestine, Killing and 
>>>injuring more than 200 persons. The Irgun gangs claimed responsibility for this 
>>>criminal act, but subsequentevidence indicated that boith the Haganah and the Jewish 
>>>Agency were involved.
>>
>>>October 1, 1946
>>>The british Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by a bomb explosions, for which Irgun 
>>>cliam responsibility.
>>
>>>June 1947
>>>Letters sent to British Cabnit Minister were found to contain Bombs.
>>
>>>September 3, 1947
>>>A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting 
>>>room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs.( The  
>>>Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8
>>
>>>December 11, 1947
>>>Six Arabs were kiled and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab 
>>>buses in haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and anothers injured in an attack by armed 
>>>Zionist on Arab coastal village near Haifa.
>>
>>>Dec. 13 1947
>>>Zionist terrorist believed to be memeber of Irgun Zvia Leumi, killed 18 Arabs and 
>>>wounded nearly 60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Lydda Area. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown 
>>>in an Arab market-place near Damascus Gate; in Jaffa bombs were thrown into an Arab 
>>>cafe; in the Arab village of Al Yahudia near Lydda, 12 Arabs were killed in an attack 
>>>with mortars and automatic weapons.
>>
>>>Dec. 19, 1947
>>>Haganah terrorist attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses, in the 
>>>ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah 
>>>admitted responsibility for the attack.
>>
>>>Dec. 29, 1947
>>>Two British contables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus 
>>>Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun Jews threw a bomb from a taxi.
>>
>>>Dec. 30, 1947
>>>A mixed forces of the Zionist Palmach and the "Carmel Brigade" attacked the village 
>>>of Ballad al Shaikh, killing more than 60 Arabs.
>>
>>>1947-1948
>>>Over 700,000 Plaestine Arabs were uprooted from their beloved homes and land in 
>>>Palestine; since than have been denied the right to return or been given compensation 
>>>for their property. After their expolsion, the "Zionist Israel terrorist Armies" 
>>>razed to the ground 385 Arabs villages ad towns out of a total of 475, ands 
>>>oblitrated their remains. These Are "The GOD Chosen People" who commit murder in the 
>>>name of Judiasm.
>>
>>>January 1, 1948
>>>Haganah terrorists attacked attacked a village on the slop of mount Camel; 17 Arabs 
>>>were killed and 33 were wounded.
>>
>>>January 4, 1948
>>>Haganah terrorist wearing British Army Uniform penetrated into the center of Jaffa 
>>>and blew up the Serai(the old Turkish Governemnt House) which was used as a 
>>>headqaurter of the Arab national Committee, killing more than 40 persons and wounding 
>>>98 others.
>>
>>>January 5, 1948 
>>>The Arab-owned semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blowm up, killing 20 persons, among 
>>>them Viscount de Tapia, the Spanish consul. Haganah admitted responsibility for this 
>>>outrage.
>>
>>>January 7, 1948
>>>seventeen Arabs were kjilled by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them 
>>>while trying to escape. further casualties, including the murder of a British officer 
>>>near Hebron, were reported from different part of the country.
>>
>>>Jan. 16, 1948
>>>Zionists blew up three Arabs building. in the first, 8 children between the ages of 
>>>18 month and 12 years, died.
>>
>>>Dec. 13, 1947- February 10, 1948
>>>seven incident of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilian in cafe and markets, killing 
>>>138 and wounding 271 others. during this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. 
>>>Zionist mind passenger trains on at least 4 occasions killing 93 persons and wounding 
>>>161 others.
>>
>>>Feb. 15 1948
>>>Haganah terrorist attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, 
>>>killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.
>>
>>>March 3, 1948
>>>Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa(a 7 story block of 
>>>flat and shops) by zionist who drove an army lorry uo to the building and escaped 
>>>before the detonation of 400 lb. of explosive; casualties numbered 11 Arabs ans 3 
>>>Armanians killed and 23 injured. The Stern Jewish Gang claimed responsibility of the 
>>>crime.
>>
>>>March 22, 1948
>>>A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 
>>>others. Four memeber of the Stern Jewish Gang drove two lorry-loaded of explosive 
>>>into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosive.
>>
>>>March 31, 1948
>>>The Cairo_Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month by an 
>>>electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 
>>>others.
>>
>>>April 9, 1948
>>>A combined forces of Irgun Zvai Leumi and ther Stern Jewish Gang, supported by the 
>>>Palmach forces captured the Arab village of Deir Yassine and killed than 200 unarmed 
>>>civilians, including countless women and childern. Older men and young women were and 
>>>paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were than 
>>>shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.
>>
>>>April 16, 1948
>>>Zionist attacked the former British army camp at tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs 
>>>there.
>>
>>>April 19 1948
>>>Fourteen arabs were killed in a hous in Tiberias which was blown up by Zionist 
>>>terrorist Jews.
>>
>>>May 11, 1948
>>>A letter Bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Baker, former commanding Officer in Plaestine, 
>>>was detected in the nick of time by his wife.
>>
>>>April 25, 1948- may 13, 1948
>>>Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and 
>>>Haganah Terrorist Jews. They stripped and carried away everything they could, 
>>>destroying what they could not take with them.
>>
>>>Sept. 17 1948
>>>Count Folk Bernadotte, UN Mediator in Palestine was assassinated by memeber of the 
>>>Stern Jewish Gang in the Zionist controlled sector of Jerusalem. Bernadotte's aide 
>>>Col. serot was also killed and murdered by Jewish terrorist.
>>
>>>Nov. 1948
>>>The Arab village of Iqrit and Birim were attacked and destroyed, killing and injuring 
>>>countless unarmed Arabs, including women and children. All the Arabs were forcibly 
>>>expelled from their homes and mother land Palestine, Know today as the artificial 
>>>state of zionist Israel.
>>
>>On 14 Apr 1998 17:11:47 GMT, bushbadee@aol.com (BUSHBADEE) wrote:
>>
>>>In article , "peter" 
>>>writes:
>>
>>>>>Even the JEW media in the US have repeatedly documented the camps
>>>>>where the cursed JEWs are imprisoning many thousands of innocent
>>>>>Palestinians, both within Israel, and also in occupied Lebanon!!!
>>>>>Don't you even believe the JEWISH media??/
>>
>>>The only ones cursed are you Polish Catholics and that is for the Muder of
>>>Jesus the Christ which your ancesstors did 2000 years ago,
>>>It was a Polish Mercinary in the Roman Army who drove the nails into his arms.
>>>For that all poles are doomed and cursed to forever be the butt of Polish Jokes
>>>and to suffer terminal stupidity.
>>
>>>Forever another  stain on Poland and the Polish people.
>>>And you are damn right.
>>>Ask a Jew from Poland what he is and he will say " A Jew " and not a Pollack.
>>>My farther would never tell any one he was from POland, It is a thing to be
>>>ashamed of and few want to admit it.
>>
>>
>>No wonder honest people of Poland dislike the foul JEWS!!!
>>



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On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:32 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:24:52 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:
>>On 21 Apr 1998 14:33:08 GMT, "jjjjjjjjjj"  wrote:

>>>It is a well known fact that at the beginning there were many jewish groups
>>>that supported the rise of the Nazis in Germany. 
>>
>>In fact, many JEWS became senior officers in the German Military!!!

>>>This was because the
>>>Rabbinical authorities were afraid of Jews who were marrying with Germans 
>>>and thus diluting the 'purity' of the Jewish race. This is a fact that has
>>>hardly been touched upon by most Jewish sympathisers and contemporary
>>>historians,with the exception of a handful of Jewish intellectuals like
>>>Noam Chomsky and Israel Shahak.
>>>The sad fact is that Zionism shares much more in common with Nazism than
>>>most people think: 
>>>Both Zionists and Nazis believe in the theory of racial/communal supremacy
>>>Both are believers in racial/communal exclusivism
>>>Both are exclusive ideologies that are intolerant of Others 
>>>Both are prepared to use violence to achieve their goals and both are
>>>prepared to justify that use of violence
>>>Both ideologies ultimately cater to the needs of their own specific and
>>>exclusive constituencies- thus what happens to others is of little interest
>>>to them.
>
>From doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>
>
>Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
>
>http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0
>
>On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote:
>
>>> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>
>http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>
>This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>he was a specialist in aerial photography--
>
>>>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>
>You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>book The War Against The Jews.
>
>Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>
>* April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>* ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>deportations."]
>
>			____________________________
>
>Or how about this?
>
>                                       Hitler's Jewish Army
>
>"Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim." --Elie Wiesel
>speaking of World War Two.
>
>"If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>
>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>knowledge and approval.
>
>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."
>
>[ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>
>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.
>
>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>
>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>
>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>Aryan.''
>
>Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>
>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>whose father was a Jew.
>
>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
>
>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>
>Sources:
>
>William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>
>Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>
>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>
>Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>
>		----------------------------------
>
>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html
>
>Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company 
>
>Thursday, April 3, 1997 
>
>Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces 
>
>by Reuters 
>
>BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
>
>See also:
>
>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>
>Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company 
>
>Dec. 26, 1996 
>
>An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>served in Nazi army 
>
>by William D. Montalbano
>Los Angeles Times 
>
>LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>of Holocaust history. 
>
>Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews. 
>
>"Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>whole story.]
>
> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html 
>sven88




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On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 13:45:25 -0600, John Walker
 wrote:

>(See reply below)
>
>sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:49:08 -0700, Milton Wong 
>> wrote:
>>
>> >The Jews are universally disliked. They are hated by people of all
>> >non-Jewish nationalities, races and religions. Why is this so?
>> >
>> >A Jew is defined as a person with Jewish ancestry or Jewish faith. An
>> >ethnic Jew who is a follower of a non-Jewish religion is still a Jew.
>> >
>> >The Jews' physical characteristics, including enormous noses and other
>> >repulsive facial features, curly hair, and ape-like body hair, are
>> >naturally repulsive to non-Jews. However, this is not the primary reason
>> >why Jews are disliked.
>> >
>> >In my experience, the Jews are in general lying, cheating, slandering,
>> >and dishonest. They lack moral integrity, and are probably unable to
>> >distinguish right from wrong. They are greedy (for money and for power)
>> >and selfish by nature. A piece of advice: never buy a used car from a
>> >Jew or Jewish-owned company!
>> >
>> >Jews will do anything to hurt and destroy anyone who dares to disagree
>> >with them.
>> >
>> >The Jews are stealing $3 billion/year from US taxpayers, and sending it
>> >to Israel as foreign aid. Israel neither needs nor deserves any foreign
>> >aid.
>> >
>> >The Jews control the US media and government. This is why US media are
>> >more biased in favor of Israel than media anywhere else in the world
>> >(except Israel, of course). This is also why the US, as the only country
>> >of any significance in the world, continues to support Israel. Whenever
>> >the Israeli Jews torture and kill innocent Palestinians, the rest of the
>> >world rightly condemns Israel. The United States however always refuses
>> >to condemn any wrongdoing by Israel. This is of course not surprising at
>> >all. The US government is dominated by and controlled by Jews. The US
>> >congress is controlled by the Jewish pro-Israeli lobby. This is why $3
>> >billion/year of US taxpayers' money continues to be sent to Israel as
>> >foreign aid.
>> >
>> >The Jews invented communism, which is responsible for the murders of
>> >more innocent people than any other political movement. Many leading
>> >communists were/are Jews. Not surprisingly, anti-Jewish feelings are
>> >strong in Eastern Europe and Russia.
>> >
>> >The Jews stole the Palestinians' homeland. The way the Jews treat the
>> >Palestinians is remarkably similar to how the Nazis allegedly treated
>> >the Jews.
>> >
>> >In my opinion, the Jews have provoked the "anti-semitism" they are
>> >always complaining about.
>
>==== Reply: ===========
>Jewish Leadership
>------------------
>There is an old saying in the world of salesmanship: "Once you have made the
>sale, shut up!."
>This is what I see to be a major reason for the growing "anti-Semitic"
>provocation mentioned above.
>The result  is a backlash against a tired old formula which is starting to
>lose it's effectiveness. The Jewish problem is that they can't "shut up".
>
>Everywhere on the Internet we witness Jews promoting Jewish leadership.
>Anyone with the
>slightest argument against them is accused by Jews of hate. Those refusing to
>accept Jewish self promotion and  Jewish leadership  are placed in the unfair
>position of being  branded as  hate mongers. The real hate mongers, in this
>case, is the Jews.
>Intellectual honesty in these debates  is seldom condoned. Rather than an
>offering of counter facts,
>most often anti Jewish rebuttals are substituted with mere insults which
>almost always  include accusations of unfounded hatred against the Jews.
>
>While Christians, Muslims, and others are busy converting people to their
>religion, Jews are busy
>promoting people to their Jewish influence. Gaining success in this activity
>they are able to form a thought control machine wherein Jewish interests are
>to be paramount.  The  very powerful Jewish lobby in the United States of
>America is an example of that influence and leadership  which Jews now enjoy
>- and it is supported for through the USA gifting of around 3 billion dollars
>per year to Israel. Much of that money comes back to haunt us.
>
>Currently (981025), Jewish influence is testing their level of control by way
>of trying to get the Jewish American traitor and super spy, J. Pollard,
>released from prison even though Pollard remains a continuing threat to USA
>security.. But Israel itself  has betrayed her friendship with the United
>States by recruiting Pollard to spy for the Jewish state.  Through such acts,
>Israel was able to sell top secret technical information to countries which
>act against our security interests.  All of this amounts to even more reason
>why so much "anti-Semitism" is generated by the Jews themselves.
>
>A real friend would not do what Israel has been doing to the United States.
>Can any reasonable
>USA patriot citizen offer continued loyalty to that country - Israel - which
>has betrayed the US more than all others combined?
>
>The common pro-Jewish argument is that Jews have suffered throughout the ages
>and that they must
>gain world leadership as a matter of security.  The argument continues to be
>strained as we observe
>that, more and more, according to the Jews, only Jewish suffering is to have
>any real meaning.  Witness the Jewish Holocaust museums where none but the
>Jewish victims  are remembered for the carnage's of W.W.II. The over one
>hundred million victims of socialist states, since the communist revolution,
>don't even make it to most history books.
>
>I believe I have been objective and honest  in this reply. My message was
>more by way of observation than it was of accusation.  Still, I can expect
>extreme distortions from Jews all over,  Jews who I have not met, who will
>accuse me of hating them.  But, they want me to hate them because that
>alleged hate is what motivates Jews more than anything else to fight, ever
>more, for their selfish influence in the affairs of our daily lives.
>
>Jews are the only ones who will tell you that you hate them -
>and if  you disagree, they will argue with you until you do.
>
>== jw =====



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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 23:13:38 GMT, Jeff Kaye 
wrote:

>
>[Courtesy of Willie Martin]
>
>(transcript of an Italian radio broadcast)
>
>April 20, 1943
>
>ZION
>
>If or when one mentions the Protocols alleged to be of the
>Elders of Zion, one is frequently met with the reply: Oh,
>but they are a forgery.
>
>Certainly they are a forgery, and that is the one proof we
>have of their authenticity. The Jews have worked with forged
>documents for the past 24 hundred years, namely ever since
>they have had any documents whatsoever. And no one can
>qualify as a historian of this half century without having
>examined the Protocols. Alleged, if you like, to have been
>translated from the Russian, from a manuscript to be
>consulted in the British Museum, where some such document
>may or may not exist.
>
>What we know for certain is that they were published two
>decades ago. That Lord Sydenham wrote a preface to them.
>That their content has been traced to another sketch said to
>have appeared in the eighteen forties. The interest in them
>does not lie in [the] question of their having been, or NOT
>been concocted by a legislative assembly of Rabbis,
>democratically elected, or secretly chosen by the Mysterious
>Order of Seven Branched Antlers or the Bowling Society of
>Milwaukee. Their interest lies in the type of mind, or the
>state of mind of their author. That was their interest for
>the psychologist the day they first appeared. And for the
>historian two decades later, when the program contained in
>them has so crushingly gone into effect up to a point, or
>down to a squalor.
>
>What is interesting, perhaps most, to the historian is their
>definite campaign against history altogether, their declared
>intention to blot out the classics, to blot out the record,
>and to dazzle men with talk of tomorrow. That is a variant
>on the pie in the bait. As far as reality is concerned, as
>far as you and I are concerned it makes little difference
>whether prosperity is in heaven, or in the year 2300, or
>just round a corner that will never be turned.
>
>A religious man might think his reward might be in heaven,
>but even a religious man ought to know that his reward will
>not be on earth in a hundred years time. In fact, the pie in
>the sky is a more reasonable proposition: an opium with more
>to it than Mr. Keynes' day after tomorrow.
>
>I am not concerned with fixing blame retrospectively so much
>as with judging the present: those who are against the true
>word, the protocolaires. Now Keynes whose fair is foul, foul
>is fair sentence can be taken as the quintessence of
>something or other, is the perfect protoclaire. It comes
>over me that on the one occasion I had the curious
>experience of seeing him, he managed to utter two falsehoods
>in a very short space of time. In fact never opened his
>mouth without doing so. First in stating that he is an
>orthodox economist, which he is not, second in saying that
>the then high cost of living was due to lack of labor, when
>there were millions of men out of work.
>
>You couldn't have done much better in two sentences if you
>were out for a record in the falsification. Protocol No. 8,
>second [paragraph]:
>
>We shall surround our government with a whole world of
>economists. That is the reason why economic sciences form,
>etc. Around us again will be a whole constellation of
>bankers, industrialists, capitalists and the main thing,
>millionaires, because in substance everything will be
>settled by the question of figures.
>
>Is it possible to arouse any interest in verbal precision?
>Is it possible to persuade more than six or eight people to
>consider the scope of crossword puzzles and other devices
>for looking at words for something that is NOT their
>meaning? Cabala, for example, anything to make the word mean
>something it does NOT say. Anything to distract the auditor
>from the plain sense of the word, or the sentence? Even to
>communism that is NOT communism. To communism of the
>episcopal sort, which they want in England. A Bolshevism
>that is to leave the archbishops and curates just where they
>are, each with his living or benefice. A revelation against
>capital, allegedly against capital, that attacks property
>and leaves capital setting pretty.
>
>Lenin all out for making banking a state affair. And then
>twenty years during which it has seemed to drop decidedly
>into the background, when the world revolution was very busy
>about something else.
>
>It should by now be clear that some people fear NOT the
>outcome of the war, but the END of the war. Churchill, for
>example. Not defeat, not the ruin of the Empire that worries
>him, but the END of the war. End of the slaughter, end of
>the war conditions.
>
>Robert Clive has been clear enough, ex-British ambassador in
>Tokyo. Tells you and the world Japan can not be beaten. But
>the war must go ON, according to Churchill and Roosevelt.
>Churchill sees the end of monopoly and privilege, or at
>least a shift when the war ends, no matter HOW. That is the
>point you should consider. In regard to the protocols,
>either there is and was a plot to ruin all goyim, all
>nations of Europe, or some people are stark raving crazy.
>They want war to go on to certain wreck. WHO are they?
>
>Mere cannon fodder. The American troops in N. Africa know
>they are not there thru any wish of their own. The war was
>started for gold, to maintain the fetish value of gold.
>Plenty of other sidelines. Minor advantages have been
>COMMERCIALLY taken. Did the present regime in England WANT
>the troops to return after Dunkirk? Every move for reform in
>England is a fascist reform, or proposition along fascist
>lines.
>
>The supreme betrayal of Europe is inherent in the alliance
>of Anglo-Jewry with Moscow. Debts rise. That is one part of
>the war. It is a contest between STOPPING the war and going
>on with it. And only one side does any fighting. Namely the
>party that STARTED the war. They are for its continuance.
>Who are they?
>
>BUT they are also for starting the next one. They openly
>proclaim that AFTER (that is IF) America finishes with
>Japan, she will have to fight Russia. IF Russia should break
>into Europe.
>
>Only blindness and deafness can keep you unaware of these
>proclamations. The U.S. must protect the world7 Why? Does
>the world want it? The U.S., once this war is over, must be
>strong enough to beat Russia.
>
>The U.S. had a chance to maintain her prestige and unique
>position by staying NEUTRAL. Neutral while other powers
>exhausted themselves. And she DID not.
>
>Who are the lunatics? Was there a deliberate plot? That is
>what should concern you. WAS there a pIot? How long had it
>been in existence? Does it continue, with its Lehmans,
>Morgenthaus, Baruchs? Proposals to send the darkies to
>Africa, to work for Judea, and the rest of it? And WILL you,
>after Japan is thru with you, take on Russia? In order to
>maintain the banking monopoly? With Mr. Wille Wiseman, late
>of the British secret service, ensconced in Kuhn, Loeb and
>Co., to direct you and rule you?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>	"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth 
>becomes a revolutionary act" - George Orwell, 1984
>
>
>Visit the following web sites for more info:
>
>
>http://home.earthlink.net/~centurion88
>http://www.io.com/~jack88
>http://www.jewwatch.com/
>http://www.melvig.org/
>http://nsdap.fsn.net
>
>or write to:
>
>	N.S.W.P.P.
>	P. O. Box 29905
>	San Antonio, TX. 78229
>	
>
> 
>
>         __
>        /\_\
>       / / /_
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>     _\ \/  \ \
>    /\ \  /\ \_\
>    \ \/  \ \/_/
>     \  /\ \_\
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>        / / /
>        \/_/
>     
>
>Posted by Harold A. Covington in support of the program and 
>goals of the National Socialist White People's Party.	
>



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On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:52:29 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org

>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation


>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
>	
>	One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian
>Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>and lead revolutionary movement.
>
>	First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
>Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 
>
>	While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>Archives:         
>         
>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
>         
>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        
>
>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type." 
>       
>         
>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were 384
>`commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>Government."         
>
>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
>Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>Moisei Uritsky. 
>
>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 
>
>The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things." 
>
>In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>United States Senate, 65th Congress: 
>
>"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest
>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>Gordon. 
>
>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>were Jews. 
>
>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>did not take kindly to it." 
>
>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>
>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
>Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 
>
>"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>4, 1919) 
>	
>"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>
>"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 
>
>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>himself:
>
>"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>
>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>virtually untouched.
>
>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>American professor of Russian history. . . "  
>
>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>Communist bosses.
>  
>Regards,
>Roger Hughes
>
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On Sat, 22 Aug 1998 01:12:18 -0600, Ed Kadach 
wrote:

>Hoaxbustir wrote:
>> 
>> >Subject: Re: Hoaxbuster
>> >From: John.Morris@x-nospam-x.UAlberta.CA (John Morris)
>> >Date: 8/21/98 5:52 PM EST
>> >Message-id: <35def9ca.2347952@news.srv.ualberta.ca>
>> >
>> >In <1998082119500100.PAA02464@ladder01.news.aol.com>, on 21 Aug 1998
>> >19:50:00 GMT, hoaxbustin@aol.com (Hoaxbustin) wrote:
>> >
>> >>There's something strange in the holohood
>> >>Who ya gonna call?--Hoaxbuster
>> >
>> >>They're telling lies, and that ain't so good
>> >>Who ya gonna call--Hoaxbuster.
>> >
>> >Just for a change, do you think you could make this persona a little
>> >less of a cry baby, Joe?
>> >
>> >--
>> > John Morris                                
>> 
>> Naw, someone has to take this newsgroup seriously.
>
>
>CRACKS IN THE HOLOCAUST MYTH
>
>
>Having seen the success of the British propaganda about the Germans
>using
>the skins of dead babies as lamp shades in World War I [which the
>British
>later apologized for after the end of the war and admitted it was only
>propaganda to get the troops to fight harder]. They conceived of the
>"Six
>Million Jew Lie" and spared no amount of expense to forward this program
>[The Zionists even executed several thousand of the so-called lesser
>Jews -
>so as to further their diabolical plans after all what was a few
>thousand
>lesser Jews compared to the master plan of World Control!]. (Genocide
>Charged: Perhaps the most stupid and cowardly people of all times are
>the
>Sephardic Jews. Charges made by the Israeli media and confirmed by a
>former
>Israeli immigration inspector that "hundreds, perhaps thousands" of the
>children of Sephardic Jews were taken from their parents and never
>returned. Sephardic Jews live in the Middle East and are thought to be
>descended from Jewish inhabitants of Judea. However, the majority of the
>Jews are Ashkenazi. History says that they are the descendants of the
>Khazars, a people near the Caucus mountains who converted to Talmudic
>Judaism in the eighth century. Children of Sephardic Jews from Yemen
>were
>subjected to a policy of the Israeli government in the '50s to the
>present
>like the charges made against the Nazis during WW II. The Tel Aviv daily
>newspaper was told by the former inspector Ami Hovev that a "substantial
>number" of these children were killed in medical experiments and buried
>in
>lime pits. "I know that (Israeli physicians in state hospitals)
>conducted
>experiments on living children, extracting phosphorus and bone marrow
>from
>the spinal chord." Hovev told Israeli TV. The parents were told that
>immigration regulations required underage children from the East to be
>hospitalized at entry. Families received "notification" that their child
>had died in the hospital. Those kidnapped children who were not used for
>medical experiments were given to European families to raise. The
>revelation of this Israeli genocidal policy against Sephardic Jews has
>electrified the press in the Middle East, but the news has been
>completely
>suppressed by the controlled media in the United States. (American
>Information Newsletter, Box 44534, Boise, Idaho 83711, 4/96 Issue).
>
>     The Zionists who are always far sighted saw in it a chance to
>accomplish two things:
>
>   (a) To destroy Nationalism by claiming that the Germans killed "Six
>Million Jews" in an effort at exterminating them, and the Germans were
>extremely nationalistic, then it must follow, that Nationalism must be
>very
>evil if millions of people can be murdered in its name! [In other words
>do
>not be too Patriotic because if you do you will have Six Million or more
>Dead Jews. And if you don't believe it they will show you another
>holocaust
>movie, then another, then another until you do]. Do you see what I am
>saying?
>
>   (b) Their claim to Palestine which came soon after the end of the War
>has enabled them [the Jews] to replace God and the Lord Jesus Christ and
>become the Chosen People: a triple counterfeit, to most of the Christian
>World!
>
>     Thus it is clear for all to see if they will look with any honesty
>at
>all America fought World War II so that World Jewry could dominate the
>Financial Money Markets of the world; Expose any existing opposition to
>their designs for world conquest and destroy such opposition; destroy
>Nationalism, Patriotism, in the major countries of the world.
>
>     Perhaps William Anderson in his Afterword in a book "WAR WAR WAR!"
>by
>Cincinnatus describes it best:
>
>        How The Jews Forced America
>        Into World War II
>
>     In the years before World War II, the American public had no desire
>to
>go to war in either Europe or Asia. We, as Americans, had no interest in
>waring with Germany, Italy or Japan. Yet America was forced to battle
>the
>Axis Powers for four long years at the sole behest of International
>Jewry.
>In fact, World Jewry commenced its war against Germany in 1933, the year
>Hitler came to power, even before he had time to begin implementing a
>program for pulling Germany out of its own economic depression.
>
>     Jewry's declaration of a 'holy war' against Germany was issued by
>Samuel Untermeyer of the World Jewish Federation, who said in the New
>York
>'Times' August 7, 1933, that it would be means of an 'economic boycott
>that
>will undermine the Hitler regime and bring the German people to their
>senses by destroying their export trade on which their very existence
>depends.'
>
>     The Toronto 'Evening Telegram' February 26, 1940, quotes Rabbi
>Maurice
>Perlzweig of the World Jewish Congress as telling a Canadian audience
>that
>'the World Jewish Congress has been at war with Germany for seven years'
>[i.e. 1933].
>
>     Jews were obviously willing to back up their threats, for the
>London
>'Sunday Chronicle' of January 2, 1938, reported that 'leaders of
>International Jewry' had met in Geneva, Switzerland to set up a $2.5
>BILLION fund to undermine the economic stability of Germany.
>
>     However, Jewish boycotts against Germany failed to bring that
>nation
>to its knees as [because] Hitler had already freed Germany from
>dependence
>on Jewish usury.
>
>     Since economic pressure by World Jewry could not break the back of
>Germany, it was determined that an actual war would be necessary to
>destroy
>Hitler [the German People for they had thrown off the control of the
>International Banks].
>
>     This desire to decimate Germany is understandable when one
>recognizes
>that Jews are a parasitic race and as parasites will fight to the death
>when the host attempts to expel them.
>
>     The Jewish desire for war was admitted by Rabbi Felix Mendelsohn in
>the Chicago "Sentinel" of October 8, 1942, where he states:
>
>        "The second World War is being fought for the Defense of the
>Fundamentals
>of Judaism."
>
>      Thus, Rabbi Mendelsohn flatly expresses the view that WW II was a
>Jewish war. This Jewish scheme came to fruitation in 1939, Germany
>invaded
>Poland. Britain and France, under Jewish domination, then declared war
>on
>Germany, conveniently ignoring the fact that The Soviet Union [under
>Jewish
>rule] also invaded Poland.
>
>     Think about it damn it - use your head - if England and France
>declared war on Germany just because they invaded Poland then why did
>they
>not also declare war against Russia because Russia also invaded Poland
>when
>Germany did?
>
>     James Forestall, later to become Secretary of Defense in his diary
>of
>December 27, 1945, notes that he played golf with Joseph Kennedy FDR's
>Ambassador to Britain, who told him that ex-Prime Minister Neville
>Chamberlain 'stated that America and the world Jews had forced England
>into
>war.' For his candor and later opposition to the bandit state of Israel,
>Forestall was murdered in 1949 [ruled a 'suicide']. Jews throughout the
>world screamed that Germany was intent on ruling the world, but General
>George C. Marshall admitted after the war, in testimony before Congress
>[it
>is recorded in the Congressional Record], that no proof could be found
>that
>Hitler planned any conquest of the world.
>
>     In fact, Hitler's actions against Czechoslovakia over the
>Sudentenland
>and Poland over Danzig were just part of Hitler's long stated desire to
>re-acquire the territory taken from Germany after WW I in the Treaty of
>Versailles [is that not what the Jews claim to be doing in Palestine at
>the
>present time?].
>
>     While stones are being cast, it should be recalled that after
>Germany
>took back the Sudentenland from Czechoslovakia, Poland seized the
>territory
>of Treschen from the Czechs which had no claims toward it. So, after the
>Jews had ignited a war in Europe, it was found to be necessary to draw
>America into that war as France had fallen and Britain tottered on the
>brink of defeat.
>
>     To bring the U.S. into this Jewish war, International Jewry had the
>services of a master at corrupt politics, the one and only Franklin
>Delano
>Roosevelt [Who will without doubt, someday go down as the greatest
>traitor
>America has ever known].
>
>
>Ed



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On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:25:45 GMT, sbjarnason@eretz.zhid.org wrote:
>On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:29:22 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>>From Deja News is the attached article,certainly worth further
>>discussion
>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene
>>>Holman) wrote:

>>>>Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims made
>>>>here.      


>>>>1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>>>>DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?
>>>>
>>>>        None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>>>>individual "survivors", and no "survivor" claims actually to have
>>>>witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No mounds
>>>>of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing the job,
>>>>no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no records, no
>>>>demographic statistics.
>>>>
>>>>        On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>>>>forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>>>>comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>>>>figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>>>> >I can offer some coins, stamps for collectors/collections, even a
>>>>> >military parachute, as well as Malaysian 22k plated gold jewellery.
>>>
>>>Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
>>>half of the original 600,000 JEWs in Germany were in the German
>>>military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
>>>extort money from gullible governments!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>        2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>>>>RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>>>>WORLD
>>>>WAR TWO?
>>>
>>>>        Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>>>>interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German war
>>>>effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of their
>>>>race or national origin alone.
>>>
>>>>        3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>>>>CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
>>>
>>>>        Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>>>>their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>>>>Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist subversion
>>>>during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were highly
>>>>overrepresented in government, commercial, and media positions.
>>>>However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger of
>>>>internment once the war broke out.
>>>
>>>>        On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>>>>Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply because
>>>>the German government had removed Jews from influential positions and
>>>>transferred power back to the German people. The boycott order and the
>>>>Jewish war against Germany were reported in the world print and
>>>>broadcast media of the time. False stories of German "death camps" were
>>>>in fact circulated even before the outbreak of World War Two. Therefore
>>>>the German view of the Jewish people as enemy aliens would seem to have
>>>>been fully justified.
>>>
>>>>        4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>>>>DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
>>>
>>>>        Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>>>>gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
>>>
>>>>        5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS IT
>>>>WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT WAS?
>>>   
>>>>        Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>>>>murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>>>>were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>>>>chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official Holocaust
>>>>lore because it became too difficult to maintain in the face of known
>>>>fact and because Dachau was in the Allied occupation zone where access
>>>>to the camp was too easy and unrestricted. 
>>>
>>>>        En passant, the brief lifespan of the "Dachau death camp"
>>>>version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning of
>>>>the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>>>>noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>>>>official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>>>>Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum. 
>>>
>>>>        6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT
>>>>GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED AT AUSCHWITZ?
>>>
>>>>        No. The "gas chamber" exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz could
>>>>not possibly have been used to carry out executions; it is far too
>>>>small and it is not even airtight. In the 1980s, American expert Fred
>>>>Leuchter, who builds gas chambers for American penal systems, took
>>>>scrapings from the walls of the Auschwitz "gas chamber" for chemical
>>>>analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is
>>>>a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.        
>>>
>>>
>>>Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
>>>1949, long after the war???
>>>
>>>
>>>>        7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN'T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE PURPOSE?
>>>
>>>>        It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>>>>(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in the
>>>>same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>>>>correctional systems throughout the United States today.
>>>
>>>>        8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
>>>
>>>>        Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of hydrocyanic
>>>>gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, including the
>>>>fumigation of lice-infested clothing, the purpose for which it was
>>>>applied at Auschwitz. Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>>>>commonly used and available today.
>>>
>>>>        9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>>>>COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
>>>
>>>>        Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>>>>brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>>>>figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>>>>read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>>>>Hoess' blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>>>>cross examined.
>>>
>>>>        10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA FUMIGATED
>>>>WITH ZYKLON-B?
>>>
>>>>        About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>>>>and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>>>>only are employed.
>>>
>>>>        11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>>>>ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>>>>THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
>>>
>>>>        It can't be explained, because it could not have happened like
>>>>that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered the same fate
>>>>as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
>>>
>>>>        12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>>>>CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>>>>BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN'T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
>>>  
>>>>        Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the six
>>>>million figure as well. 
>>>
>>>>        13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET
>>>>FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE POPE, THE
>>>>VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
>>>>NOT KNOW?
>>>
>>>>        Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>>>>British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>>>>been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>>>>were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a potentially
>>>>powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any contemporary evidence at
>>>>all during the war that such an event was occurring. 
>>>
>>>>        14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>>        About 300,000.
>>>
>>>>        15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
>>>
>>>>        Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>>>>Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably appears
>>>>whenever people are jammed together for long periods without bathing.
>>>>It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. Ironically, if
>>>>the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant purposes, more Jews
>>>>might have survived the concentration camps. Jewish prisoners (as well
>>>>as many others) also died from starvation and lack of medical attention
>>>>towards the end of the war when virtually all rail and road transport
>>>>had come to a standstill due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
>>>
>>>>        16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 300,000
>>>>DIED?
>>>
>>>>        5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>>>>deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>>>>exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>>>>was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>>>>identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>>>>of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>>>>the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a "Holocaust".
>>>
>>>>        17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE "DEATH CAMPS" SAY THEY SAW
>>>>BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD HAVE
>>>>BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
>>>
>>>>        A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>>>>afforded to waste during the Second World War, that's for sure.        
>>>
>>>>        18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
>>>
>>>>        No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by
>>>>flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated in open pits.
>>>>[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>>>>observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>>>>American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely to
>>>>destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in any
>>>>other way in open pits. The Holocaust "experts" who claim otherwise are
>>>>either parroting what they have been told without bothering to check
>>>>their facts, or else they are lying.]
>>>
>>>>        19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>>>>BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A BODY
>>>>ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
>>>
>>>>        About two hours.
>>>
>>>>        20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
>>>
>>>>        To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead from
>>>>typhus and other diseases.
>>>
>>>>        21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN ALL
>>>>THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF
>>>>CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO INCINERATE DURING THE
>>>>ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
>>>
>>>>        About 430,600.
>>>
>>>>        22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
>>>
>>>>        No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>>>>per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>>>>when in heavy operation.
>>>
>>>>        23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>>>>CORPSE?
>>>        
>>>>        After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>>>>time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
>>>
>>>>        24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
>>>
>>>>        That remains to be "explained". Six million bodies would
>>>>produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have been
>>>>no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz are or
>>>>anywhere else in Europe.
>>>
>>>>        25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE AIR,
>>>>SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
>>>
>>>>        No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the immense
>>>>amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the camp, nor do
>>>>they show any evidence of the alleged open pits where the bodies were
>>>>burned.
>>>
>>>>        26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE
>>>>WHOLE "HOLOCAUST" ISSUE?
>>>
>>>>        A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>>>>September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>>>>packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>>>>full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second World
>>>>War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or any of the
>>>>wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust. 
>>>
>>>>        Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war's end, the
>>>>liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of articles
>>>>claiming that the Red Cross was "full of Nazi sympathizers". This
>>>>charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated Jewish
>>>>attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles steadily in
>>>>the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
>>>
>>>>        27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
>>>
>>>>        Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>>>>Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>>>>conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>>>>literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>>>>diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>>>>adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from the
>>>>published text. 
>>>
>>>>        In 1950 Anne Frank's father sued author Meyer Levin, the actual
>>>>writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. A Jewish judge in
>>>>New York ordered the records of the court case sealed for 100 years.
>>>>When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>>>>noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were interpolations
>>>>written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, a writing instrument
>>>>which was not invented until 1950. The original diary was swiftly
>>>>removed from exhibit and whisked away into a safety deposit box in
>>>>Israel. It has never been produced for examination since then despite
>>>>repeated attempts by scholars to view it. 
>>>
>>>>        28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>>>>ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED CORPSES
>>>>AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
>>>
>>>>        Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>>>>Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>>>>Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a "Nazi SS
>>>>man" about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>>>>of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>>>>historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>>>>the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine. 
>>>
>>>>        (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>>>>atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>>>>remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>>>>the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>>>>laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>>>>be perpetrated by Holocaust "experts" is not surprising in view of the
>>>>fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme left-wing views
>>>>and are as quick to apologize for and explain away Stalin's butcheries
>>>>as they are to invent fraudulent crimes attributed to Adolf Hitler. The
>>>>almost universally leftist political and social orientation of
>>>>Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind when
>>>>examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>>>>important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>>>>the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken McVay's
>>>>refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General Secretary Smith
>>>>asked him why he did not condemn the mass murders of Stalin.)
>>>
>>>>        29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>>>>SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
>>>       
>>>>        Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>>>>predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would certainly
>>>>have been in a position to learn about it. Since no such plan existed,
>>>>the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
>>>
>>>>        30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>>>>EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
>>>
>>>>        None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>>>>deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come to
>>>>light. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>>>>Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering the
>>>>extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis were
>>>>meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were seized
>>>>by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied archivists
>>>>and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them all. Nothing.
>>>>Zip. Nada. 
>>>
>>>>        31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>>        Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>>>>from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>>>>they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>>>>official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>>>>British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>>>>Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>>>>industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that Eichmann
>>>>was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered in order
>>>>to silence him.
>>>
>>>
>>>In Canada there was adetailed story in Toronto Life about the roles of
>>>the Reichman and gestetner families in providing assistance to the
>>>Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public exposure,and
>>>have tried to restrict distribution of this news, which is available
>>>from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
>>>
>>>
>>>>        32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED BY
>>>>THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
>>>
>>>>        Slightly less than four million.
>>>
>>>>        33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE THE
>>>>NAZIS?
>>>
>>>>        Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>>>>kill them.
>>>
>>>>        34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN'T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THEM?
>>>
>>>>        After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>>>>States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 300,000,
>>>>they are all accounted for.
>>>
>>>>        35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>>>>TODAY?
>>>
>>>>        It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>>>>economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>>>>sums of "guilt money", especially from the German government. It
>>>>justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>>>>dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>>>>billion dollars in assorted "Holocaust reparations" and the ante is
>>>>growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>>>>Jewish people to keep the scam going.
>>>
>>>>        36. ARE FILMS LIKE "HOLOCAUST", "SCHINDLER'S LIST", AND "THE
>>>>WINDS OF WAR" DOCUMENTARIES?
>>>
>>>>        Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>>>>They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, not
>>>>real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals of
>>>>events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>>>>screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where Jews
>>>>are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and the
>>>>creative and financial sectors of film making. 
>>>
>>>>        Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>>>>that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>>>>begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, the
>>>>character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in Spielberg's
>>>>production of "Schindler's List" was sanitized to the point of being
>>>>unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost saintly, and yet none
>>>>of those still living who remember the man have a single good word to
>>>>say about him. The real Schindler was a confidence artist, a thief, a
>>>>libertine and degenerate gambler who indulged freely in forced sexual
>>>>relations with young female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>>>>and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>>>>money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>>>>because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and events
>>>>like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with the most
>>>>bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
>>>
>>>>        37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE SOME
>>>>ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>>        Over 100, with more in the works.
>>>
>>>>        38. BUT AREN'T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>>>>ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?
>>>
>>>>        Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>>>>right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>>>>freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>>>>explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>>>>unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>>>>position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>>>>genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>>>>libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>>>>subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>>>>from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
>>>
>>>>        39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>>>>VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>>        A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>>>>always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>>>>Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>>>>called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>>>>hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>>>>express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>>>>from many of the postings to Nizkor's Internet playgroups that they
>>>>have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>>>>Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>>>>ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>>>>cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
>>>
>>>>        The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>>>>hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>>>>giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those who
>>>>ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the Holocaust
>>>>are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned. 
>>>
>>>>        Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>>>>him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>>>>Revisionist bookseller's offices were burned, and in Toronto
>>>>Revisionist author Ernst Zundel's home was almost destroyed in an arson
>>>>attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of show trials lasting
>>>>over ten years, and after being finally acquitted he has been denied
>>>>Canadian citizenship and is still battling attempts to deport him to
>>>>prison and torture in Germany. 
>>>
>>>>        An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>>>>kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>>>>lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the "crime" of writing
>>>>pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>>>>legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>>>>abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>>>>only after an international outcry. Schmidt's "crime" was writing a
>>>>pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>>>>distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder has
>>>>been imprisoned so many times he's lost count. Revisionists have been
>>>>stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure in universities,
>>>>victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs in the mail, and
>>>>subjected to constant death threats from Jews and Marxists.
>>>
>>>>        THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent people
>>>>who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by trying to kill,
>>>>imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. More than anything else,
>>>>the behavior of the Jews and the governments they influence so strongly
>>>>proves that the Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>>>>neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>>>>silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people who
>>>>believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults and
>>>>torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the part of
>>>>the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have imposed the
>>>>most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of humanity, and have
>>>>used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, steal another people's
>>>>country, and then to slaughter that country's original inhabitants at
>>>>will, as according to National Public Radio they are doing even now as
>>>>I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
>>>
>>>>        40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>>>>REVISIONISTS?
>>>
>>>>        No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than ever
>>>>to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the earth
>>>>understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded them, and
>>>>robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust lie. There
>>>>can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the Holocaust will
>>>>be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at large for what
>>>>it is: a politically inspired hoax.
>>>
>>>>NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>>>>pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>>>>information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>>>>ihrgreg@kaiwan.com - W.S.
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>> 
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> 
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>> 
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>> 
>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>> 
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>> 
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>> 
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>> 
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>> 
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>> 
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew> could 
>>> ever have fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>> 
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>> 
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>> 
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>> 
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>> 
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>> 
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>> 
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>> 
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>> 
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>> 
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>> 
>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled - as Fertiliser
sven88


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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 11:13:04 +0800, The Rottnest Quokka
 wrote:
>I  can post so much and type so well when one hand is so
>obviously occupied.

>sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 03:00:51 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control...
>
>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is...
>
>>>cheers,          PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>maddison@power.connexus.net.au (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from,
>>Harold.
>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. :-) 
>
>>Here is another angle on my 'yike'.
>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the 'nice little earner'
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia.  They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political 'pincer movement' entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>
>>>Ummm... Was it "The Jews" (tm) that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>
>>Some voices among 'the Jews' have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review.  The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all.  A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.
>
>>>Why blame "The Jews" for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>
>>Consider my approach a 'media technique'.  One I
>>highly  disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of.  (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, 'the end justifies the
>>means'.)
>
>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I'd say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,
>
>>They haven't.
>
>>> or someone may have posted it to the 'Net.
>
>>Here of course mostly 'anything goes'.  That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>
>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn't
>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>
>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose.  Quite stupid are they not!  :-)  I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?  
>
>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>
>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please.  (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.) 
>
>>>David Maddison
>
>>Hope that helps.  :-)
>
>>Now, here is another aspect of my 'yike'.
>
>>The arrogance displayed by Australia's now
>>prolific 'ursurper classes' knows no bounds.
>
>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>
>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>'politically correct screeching brigade' has long
>>intimidated our good, polite,  well meaning and
>>well mannered 'Australian cultured' citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>
>>The Australia-Israel Review's stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of  their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency's 'game' just might be about to be
>>up!  Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>
>>Harold.
>
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:07:13 +1000, Mr_I@TIO>not.awww....
>(Mr.Interesting) wrote:
>
>>In article <35a35535.8370350@news.eagles.bbs.net.au>,
>>woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold Wood) wrote:
>
>>> JEWISH NAZIS!
> 
>>> How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>> peddlers of guilt, those 'oonga boonga' mere
>>
>
>>Shouldn't that be "Oingo Boingo"?
>
>>Doesn't Hebraic tradition have a saying that goes along the lines of 
>>"Be careful who you hate, because you'll end up being just like them".
>
>>They're behaving like Nazi's in Palestine (let's call it by it's real name
>>shall we, that is unless you STILL believe that the bible isn't one of the
>>most successful pieces of Politico-Religious Propagandistic Re-writes of
>>the Past AND the Future?...).
>
>>Funny thing is, the ones who are causing all the troubles, ie the
>>Ultra-Orthodox Right wing and Likud parties, apart from being
>>DOLE-BLUDGERS in Israel, are also CONVENIENTLY EXEMPT from military
>>service, or from facing the bullets and bombs, that they demand their
>>fellow secular countrymen face(some of which, by the way, are planted by
>>Orthodox jews, killing ordinary jews, to stir up a bit more hatred).
>
>>I find it quite strange that the majority of Israeli's are secular and
>>want peace, but allow themselves to be kept in a state of terror, NOT by
>>Palestinians, but by OTHER JEWS!.  WHO DON'T WORK.  WHO DON'T HAVE TO DO
>>MILITARY SERVICE.  WHO ASSASSINATED THE PRESIDENT who was going to deliver
>>peace.
>
>
>On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 04:42:35 GMT, cartman@southpark.com (Eric Cartman)
>wrote:
>>On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 00:28:39 GMT, management.dolitle@omcs.com.au
>>(Scott Steel) wrote:
>>>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 05:20:36 GMT, zsero@bigfoot.com (Zev Sero) wrote:
>>>>On Wed, 08 Jul 1998, peterjames@usa.net (Peter James) wrote:
>
>>>>The publication of a portion of the membership list of One Nation is
>>>>in no way comparable to your Nazi heroes' making up of lists of Jews
>>>>to murder.  Neither Mark Leibler nor anyone else involved in AIR has
>>>>given the slightest indication that they might be prone to violence
>>>>against One Nation members.
>
>>>Im sure they havent.
>>>But they printed the List with the expectation of intimidating One
>>>Nation members.This is not acceptable in a country with a right to
>>>free political association.
>
>>>>  It's clear that the purpose of publishing
>>>>the list was to shame these people who have lent a hand to that unworthy
>>>>cause. 
>
>>>To "shame" these people?
>>>Who  is Leibler to define whom needs "shaming"?
>>>Since when did that little imp carry the collective conscience of
>>>Australia?
>
>>Seems to be a preoccupation of the people of Jehovah.
sven88


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On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:40:41 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:24:48 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>
>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>
>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>
>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>murder of Christ?
>>
>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>want to generate more?
>>
>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>
>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>
>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>
>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>the year 2000!!!



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On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 18:56:31 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:14:46 GMT, doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com
>(Gunther Schiller) wrote:
>
>>>> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>>
>>>Amazing. Blame Hitler on the Jews? What a laugh. And I thought Stalin was a
>>>reach. 
>>>No, there were no Jews in Hitler's inner circle. Pure non-sense.
>>
>>Wanna bet o' clueless one? You are damned good at running your mouth
>>and offering your opinion, along with your undocumented uses of the
>>telephone BUT I have my facts together!
>>
>>http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>>
>>This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>he was a specialist in aerial photography--
>>
>>>>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>>
>>>Specific example. Pure fantasy. Please make something up
>>
>>You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>>book The War Against The Jews.
>>
>>Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>>
>>* April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>>servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>>* ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>deportations."]
>>
>>			____________________________
>>
>>Or how about this?
>>
>>                                       Hitler's Jewish Army
>>
>>"Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim." --Elie Wiesel
>>speaking of World War Two.
>>
>>"If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>>what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>
>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>>knowledge and approval.
>>
>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>>marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."
>>
>>[ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>>
>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.
>>
>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>
>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>>widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>
>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>Aryan.''
>>
>>Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>
>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>whose father was a Jew.
>>
>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
>>
>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>
>>Sources:
>>
>>William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>
>>Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>
>>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>>
>>Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>>http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>>
>>		----------------------------------
>>
>>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html
>>
>>Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company 
>>
>>Thursday, April 3, 1997 
>>
>>Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces 
>>
>>by Reuters 
>>
>>BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
>>
>>See also:
>>
>>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>
>>Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company 
>>
>>Dec. 26, 1996 
>>
>>An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>served in Nazi army 
>>
>>by William D. Montalbano
>>Los Angeles Times 
>>
>>LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>>of Holocaust history. 
>>
>>Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews. 
>>
>>"Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>>knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>whole story.]
>>
>> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html 
>>
>>			----------------------------------
>>
>>>.>Did the Bolsheviks give exemptions?
>>
>>>You tell me.
>>
>>No, they did not!
>>
>>		~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:40:06 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:45:01 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, justice_online@NoSPAM-2372.juno.com
>>wrote:
>>
>>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>>Christian natives.
>>
>>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>>humanity in Palestine.
>>
>>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>>
>>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>>
>>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>>
>>
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On Sat, 31 Oct 1998 01:23:49 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Wed, 26 Nov 1997 14:00:33 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>OyVay & NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just do not like for the world to know how
>>rotten, and anti-Christian the cursed JEWS really are!!!
>>
>>In Canada, the damned JEWS even had the Cross removed from the
>>cenotaph, for the Remembrance Day ceremonies!!
>>
>>Article attached.
>>
>>There has been worldwide revulsion, and complaints about the damned
>>JEWS for doing this.
>>
>>On 26 Nov 1997 04:07:29 GMT, jbellingxx@aol.com (Jbellingxx) wrote:
>>
>>>Why does Nizkor list ISP's on their Web-site for everyone who disagrees with
>>>their opinions?  Why do they do that?  Why do they list instructions on how to
>>>mail bomb people who disagree with their opinions-these champions of social
>>>justice and free speech?  Sing to "Happy days are here again:
>>>
>>>McCarthy Days are here again
>>>The Nizkooks strike but you won't know when
>>>get a mail bomb sent from yer old pal Ken
>>>Nizkook days are here again
>>>
>>>They'll publicize your ISP's
>>>They'd like to have you on your knees
>>>They're busier than a nest of bees
>>>Nizkook days are here again
>>>
>>>protect your precious CD rom
>>>Watch out before you are mail bombed
>>>
>>>They love to put in false complaints
>>>Beware of lies the Nizkook paints
>>>Within this group one will find no saints
>>>Nizkook days are here again....
>>>
>>>Ach!  I'm a song writer!  Move over, Irving Berlin!
>>>Ich bin noch ein Berliner!
>
>
>In Edmonton Canada, JEWS forced the removal of the Cross from the
>Cenotaph, commemmorating Remembrance Day.
>
>Len Dolgoy, past president of the Jewish Federation of Edmonton, and
>also the regional representative on the Canadian Jewish Congress,  had
>arranged for the removal of the Cross at the Remembrance day
>celebrations.
>
>The Strathcona Legion, represnting victims and their families fielded
>many complaints, particularly from war widows and others who had lost
>family members.
>
>
>Mind you, the same JEWS do not mind that they will be having a 25 foot
>scrap iron menorah cluttering up the lawn in front of the provincial
>Parliament Buildings, to supposedly celebrate the JEW holiday of
>Hannukah!!!!
>
>It seems that the JEWs can have their religious symbol in front of the
>public, but the Cross, representing the millions of Christians who
>died, is not to be permitted!!!!
>
>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled - as Fertiliser
>



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On 15 Nov 1998 01:41:33 GMT, "Interested" 
wrote:
>YEAH YEAH 
>another page of CRAP


>sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote in article
><3668b1b3.11613689@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>...
>> On Sat, 31 Oct 1998 01:23:49 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >On Wed, 26 Nov 1997 14:00:33 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>OyVay & NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just do not like for the world to know how
>> >>rotten, and anti-Christian the cursed JEWS really are!!!
>> >>
>> >>In Canada, the damned JEWS even had the Cross removed from the
>> >>cenotaph, for the Remembrance Day ceremonies!!
>> >>
>> >>Article attached.
>> >>
>> >>There has been worldwide revulsion, and complaints about the damned
>> >>JEWS for doing this.
>> >>
>> >>On 26 Nov 1997 04:07:29 GMT, jbellingxx@aol.com (Jbellingxx) wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Why does Nizkor list ISP's on their Web-site for everyone who
>disagrees with
>> >>>their opinions?  Why do they do that?  Why do they list instructions
>on how to
>> >>>mail bomb people who disagree with their opinions-these champions of
>social
>> >>>justice and free speech?  Sing to "Happy days are here again:
>> >>>
>> >>>McCarthy Days are here again
>> >>>The Nizkooks strike but you won't know when
>> >>>get a mail bomb sent from yer old pal Ken
>> >>>Nizkook days are here again
>> >>>
>> >>>They'll publicize your ISP's
>> >>>They'd like to have you on your knees
>> >>>They're busier than a nest of bees
>> >>>Nizkook days are here again
>> >>>
>> >>>protect your precious CD rom
>> >>>Watch out before you are mail bombed
>> >>>
>> >>>They love to put in false complaints
>> >>>Beware of lies the Nizkook paints
>> >>>Within this group one will find no saints
>> >>>Nizkook days are here again....
>> >>>
>> >>>Ach!  I'm a song writer!  Move over, Irving Berlin!
>> >>>Ich bin noch ein Berliner!
>> >
>> >
>> >In Edmonton Canada, JEWS forced the removal of the Cross from the
>> >Cenotaph, commemmorating Remembrance Day.
>> >
>> >Len Dolgoy, past president of the Jewish Federation of Edmonton, and
>> >also the regional representative on the Canadian Jewish Congress,  had
>> >arranged for the removal of the Cross at the Remembrance day
>> >celebrations.
>> >
>> >The Strathcona Legion, represnting victims and their families fielded
>> >many complaints, particularly from war widows and others who had lost
>> >family members.
>> >
>> >
>> >Mind you, the same JEWS do not mind that they will be having a 25 foot
>> >scrap iron menorah cluttering up the lawn in front of the provincial
>> >Parliament Buildings, to supposedly celebrate the JEW holiday of
>> >Hannukah!!!!
>> >
>> >It seems that the JEWs can have their religious symbol in front of the
>> >public, but the Cross, representing the millions of Christians who
>> >died, is not to be permitted!!!!
sven88 - thanks for keeping up reader interest with your profound
observations.



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On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:44:50 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:24:37 GMT, kenoyvaySOB@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 23 Sep 1997 19:20:12 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>>
>>>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>>>Christ.
>>>
>>>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>>>business.
>>>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>>>hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>>>>
>>>>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>>>>
>>>>NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>>>> rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to launder
>>>> and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics dealers by
>>>> routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue and a yeshiva
>>>>in Brooklyn. 
>>>>
>>>> The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought together
>>>>a collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York representatives of
>>>>Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who purportedly transported
>>>>cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with ties to a close-knit Jewish
>>>>community. 
>>>>
>>>> At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions of
>>>>dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively modest
>>>>Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from American and
>>>>Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the Colombian drug
>>>>lords. 
>>>>
>>>> "Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>>>>traffickers, and the  cynical act of using religious institutions to
>>>>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary Carter,
>>>>the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in announcing the
>>>>charges. 
>>>>
>>>> Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford Ave.,
>>>>and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in Brooklyn, were
>>>>arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day before U.S. Magistrate
>>>>Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy to launder money. Two
>>>>suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of 5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn,
>>>>also were charged with conspiring to avoid federal cash-transaction
>>>>reporting requirements. 
>>>>
>>>>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of 320
>>>>Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was released on
>>>>$750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal complaint were listed
>>>>as fugitives, and two more were being held in custody elsewhere in New
>>>>York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst, the assistant federal
>>>>attorney prosecuting the case. 
>>>>
>>>>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used court-authorized
>>>>wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint charged that the
>>>>two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by taking cash from
>>>>go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a synagogue-based
>>>>organization and, after subtracting commissions, writing checks to drug
>>>>traffickers. 
>>>>
>>>>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the name
>>>>of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation Eitz Chaim
>>>>at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more than $19 million
>>>>during the 10-month period when the laundering transactions occurred,
>>>>between August 1995 and May 1996. 
>>>>
>>>>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to have
>>>>written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and Knobloch
>>>>were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in drug money
>>>>by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000 -- the amount
>>>>that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting requirement --
>>>>through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim and Bobover Yeshiva,
>>>>at the same location. 
>>>>
>>>>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was listed by
>>>> prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of people at
>>>>Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything about him or
>>>>the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim Shel Shulem. 
>>>>
>>>>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick front
>>>>and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in Hebrew. The
>>>>only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz Family of Mexico
>>>>Building." 
>>>>
>>>>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people were
>>>>studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who would not
>>>>give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis named in the
>>>>federal complaint. 
>>>>
>>>> The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's
>>>>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service --
>>>>began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>>>>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in
>>>>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>>>>officials said. 
>>>>
>>>>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other techniques, the
>>>>investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in which Grunfeld and Knobloch
>>>>eventually made more than $1 million in deposits and withdrawals --
>>>>transactions, they said, that let the conspirators move large sums of
>>>>illicit drug profits. 
>>>>
>>>> Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in Monday's
>>>>complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five of them --
>>>>Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio Rodriguez, 30; Juan
>>>>Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to have brought in large sums
>>>>that Colombian drug dealers wanted to launder. 
>>>>
>>>>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack
>>>>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40, and
>>>>Fabio Arana, both of
>>>>Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted and stashed the money at an
>>>>apartment at  243 West 75th St. 
>>>>
>>>>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was later
>>>>deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel Shulem.
>>>>Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made out
>>>>to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions," the
>>>>federal complaint said. 
>>>>
>>>>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no formal
>>>>connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said. Commissions of 13
>>>>percent to 15 percent were deducted from the laundered money and divided
>>>>among the intermediaries. 
>>>>
>>>> Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>>>>community came  into contact with professional money launderers and drug
>>>>traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and Grunfeld, and
>>>>Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy a Beech Super King
>>>>aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>>>>================================================================================
>>>>   The Campaign for Radical Truth in History: http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:44:09 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>And don't forget the murders of the UN troops in Lebanon by the JEWS;
>
>And don't  forget the genocide of the unarmed civilians at the Q'ana
>refugee camp by the damn Israelis.


>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 19:17:05 -0700, Clancy
> wrote:
>
>>someone@somewhere.com wrote:
> 
>>> And don't forget the murders of the British, such as in the King david
>>> Hotel, by the IRGUN and Stern Gang, involving this great zionist
>>> gangster!!!
>
>
>>Zionist  terrorist acts from 1939-1996 - part I
>
>>1939 
>>Haganah blew up the Iraqi oil pipeline near Haifa palestine. Moshe Dayan was one of 
>>the participant in this act. The technique was used again in 1947 at least 4 times.
>
>>August 20, 1937-June 29, 1939
>>During this period, Zionist carrtied out a series of attacks against Arab buses, 
>>resulting in the seath of 24 persons and wonding 25 others. They are the Master of 
>>killing people on buses.
>
>>Nov.25, 1940
>>S.S. Patria blown up by Jewish Terrorists in Haifa Harbor, Killing 268 illegal Jewish 
>>immigrants.
>
>>Nov. 6 1944
>>Zionist Terrorist of Stern gang* assassinated the British Minister Resident in the 
>>Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.
>
>>July 22, 1946
>>Zionist Terrorist blew up the King david Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the central 
>>offices of the civilian administarion of the Governemnt of Palestine, Killing and 
>>injuring more than 200 persons. The Irgun gangs claimed responsibility for this 
>>criminal act, but subsequentevidence indicated that boith the Haganah and the Jewish 
>>Agency were involved.
>
>>October 1, 1946
>>The british Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by a bomb explosions, for which Irgun 
>>cliam responsibility.
>
>>June 1947
>>Letters sent to British Cabnit Minister were found to contain Bombs.
>
>>September 3, 1947
>>A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting 
>>room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs.( The  
>>Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8
>
>>December 11, 1947
>>Six Arabs were kiled and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab 
>>buses in haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and anothers injured in an attack by armed 
>>Zionist on Arab coastal village near Haifa.
>
>>Dec. 13 1947
>>Zionist terrorist believed to be memeber of Irgun Zvia Leumi, killed 18 Arabs and 
>>wounded nearly 60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Lydda Area. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown 
>>in an Arab market-place near Damascus Gate; in Jaffa bombs were thrown into an Arab 
>>cafe; in the Arab village of Al Yahudia near Lydda, 12 Arabs were killed in an attack 
>>with mortars and automatic weapons.
>
>>Dec. 19, 1947
>>Haganah terrorist attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses, in the 
>>ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah 
>>admitted responsibility for the attack.
>
>>Dec. 29, 1947
>>Two British contables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus 
>>Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun Jews threw a bomb from a taxi.
>
>>Dec. 30, 1947
>>A mixed forces of the Zionist Palmach and the "Carmel Brigade" attacked the village 
>>of Ballad al Shaikh, killing more than 60 Arabs.
>
>>1947-1948
>>Over 700,000 Plaestine Arabs were uprooted from their beloved homes and land in 
>>Palestine; since than have been denied the right to return or been given compensation 
>>for their property. After their expolsion, the "Zionist Israel terrorist Armies" 
>>razed to the ground 385 Arabs villages ad towns out of a total of 475, ands 
>>oblitrated their remains. These Are "The GOD Chosen People" who commit murder in the 
>>name of Judiasm.
>
>>January 1, 1948
>>Haganah terrorists attacked attacked a village on the slop of mount Camel; 17 Arabs 
>>were killed and 33 were wounded.
>
>>January 4, 1948
>>Haganah terrorist wearing British Army Uniform penetrated into the center of Jaffa 
>>and blew up the Serai(the old Turkish Governemnt House) which was used as a 
>>headqaurter of the Arab national Committee, killing more than 40 persons and wounding 
>>98 others.
>
>>January 5, 1948 
>>The Arab-owned semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blowm up, killing 20 persons, among 
>>them Viscount de Tapia, the Spanish consul. Haganah admitted responsibility for this 
>>outrage.
>
>>January 7, 1948
>>seventeen Arabs were kjilled by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them 
>>while trying to escape. further casualties, including the murder of a British officer 
>>near Hebron, were reported from different part of the country.
>
>>Jan. 16, 1948
>>Zionists blew up three Arabs building. in the first, 8 children between the ages of 
>>18 month and 12 years, died.
>
>>Dec. 13, 1947- February 10, 1948
>>seven incident of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilian in cafe and markets, killing 
>>138 and wounding 271 others. during this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. 
>>Zionist mind passenger trains on at least 4 occasions killing 93 persons and wounding 
>>161 others.
>
>>Feb. 15 1948
>>Haganah terrorist attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, 
>>killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.
>
>>March 3, 1948
>>Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa(a 7 story block of 
>>flat and shops) by zionist who drove an army lorry uo to the building and escaped 
>>before the detonation of 400 lb. of explosive; casualties numbered 11 Arabs ans 3 
>>Armanians killed and 23 injured. The Stern Jewish Gang claimed responsibility of the 
>>crime.
>
>>March 22, 1948
>>A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 
>>others. Four memeber of the Stern Jewish Gang drove two lorry-loaded of explosive 
>>into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosive.
>
>>March 31, 1948
>>The Cairo_Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month by an 
>>electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 
>>others.
>
>>April 9, 1948
>>A combined forces of Irgun Zvai Leumi and ther Stern Jewish Gang, supported by the 
>>Palmach forces captured the Arab village of Deir Yassine and killed than 200 unarmed 
>>civilians, including countless women and childern. Older men and young women were and 
>>paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were than 
>>shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.
>
>>April 16, 1948
>>Zionist attacked the former British army camp at tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs 
>>there.
>
>>April 19 1948
>>Fourteen arabs were killed in a hous in Tiberias which was blown up by Zionist 
>>terrorist Jews.
>
>>May 11, 1948
>>A letter Bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Baker, former commanding Officer in Plaestine, 
>>was detected in the nick of time by his wife.
>
>>April 25, 1948- may 13, 1948
>>Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and 
>>Haganah Terrorist Jews. They stripped and carried away everything they could, 
>>destroying what they could not take with them.
>
>>Sept. 17 1948
>>Count Folk Bernadotte, UN Mediator in Palestine was assassinated by member of the 
>>Stern Jewish Gang in the Zionist controlled sector of Jerusalem. Bernadotte's aide 
>>Col. serot was also killed and murdered by Jewish terrorist.
>
>>Nov. 1948
>>The Arab village of Iqrit and Birim were attacked and destroyed, killing and injuring 
>>countless unarmed Arabs, including women and children. All the Arabs were forcibly 
>>expelled from their homes and mother land Palestine, Know today as the artificial 
>>state of zionist Israel.
>sven88



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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:33:59 +1100, Simple 
wrote:
>sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>>  sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:24:36 -0600, Ed Kadach 
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>WAS THERE REALLY A HOLOCAUST?
>> >>                   By Dr. E. R. Fields
>> >>
>> >>   The Holocaust has become the greatest instrument of sympathy
>> >>which any nation has ever been able to use to gain support for
>> >>wars, expansion and foreign-aid: This has made Israel the
>> >>world's sixth strongest military power. The gravest threat to
>> >>all this wealth and influence is the growing doubt over the
>> >>question of whether or not a real holocaust of 6 million Jews
>> >>actual took place.
>> >>
>> >>              NUMBERS OF VICTIMS DON'T ADD UP
>> >>
>> >>   The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world
>> >>Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanacs figures were
>> >>supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Nest the Jewish owned
>> >>New York Times of Feb. 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish
>> >>population for that year amounted "to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000
>> >>in the addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine."
>> >>How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war
>> >>years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?
>
>You are an ignorant idiot; The jews are very smart they used scientific
>methods to increase their numbers at that time they used Tissue Culture
>and "In Vitro" ways to get more children so they can compensate what they
>lost in the gas chambers.
>
>>
>> >>   With the rise of Hitler to power there were no more than 4
>> >>million Jews at the most living in areas occupied by the Third
>> >>Reich at the height of its power. On June 30, 1965, the
>> >>West German government announced that some 3,375,000 Jewish
>> >>holocaust "survivors" had applied for reparations money.
>
>Each jew worth 20-4,000,000 million Gentiles.
>
>> The Red
>> >>Cross reported in 1946 that of registered Jewish camp inmates no
>> >>more than 300,000 could have died.
>
>This is anti-Semitic; the cross for christians and not for jews.
>
>> It is interesting to note
>> >>that in the Jews real "bible", The Talmud, it is claimed that
>> >>800,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Romans in Hadrians era. Yet
>> >>there is no historical evidence supporting this claim.
>
>Hear about the Roman Gas Chambers
>
>>
>> >>   The Jewish owned New York Times, in 1945 carried an article
>> >>by the well known Jewish writer C.L. Sulzberger. It openly
>> >>stated Soviet Russia supplied the figure of 4 million Jews
>> >>having been put to death "in the gas chambers of Auschwitz."
>> >>Thus it was the communists and the Jews who initially originated
>> >>these figures which today are accepted as "gospel truth".
>> >>   It is claimed that from 1934 to 1945 some 50,000 people died
>> >>in the huge Bergen-Belsen camp. This count is considered
>> >>exaggerated, still Time Magazine reports that of this figure
>> >>20,000 died of typhus during the single month of March, 1945! If
>> >>nearly half died of this plague in just one month at the end of
>> >>the war there is no way Bergen-Belsen could have been an
>> >>"extermination camp".
>> >>
>
>In that particular camp Hitler used "typhus gas" in the gas chambers
>
>>
>> >>             HIMMLER-"REDUCE DEATHS AT ALL COSTS"
>> >>
>> >>   Heinrich Himmler, chief of the Concentration Camps issued
>> >>orders on Dec. 28, 1942, that "The death rate in the
>> >>concentration camps must be reduced at all costs." (Source,
>> >>Reitlinger's book, "The Final Solution.")
>> >>   The camps had been hit with a deadly typhus epidemic that
>> >>spread by fleas and body lice. Stomach pain, high fever,
>> >>emaciation and death can quickly follow. All of the camps were
>> >>factories and the loss of workers was hurting war production.
>> >>Inspector of the camps, Richard Glucks responded to Himmler's
>> >>order on Jan 20, 1943, "Every means will be used to lower the
>> >>death rates." (Source, Nuremberg Tribunal Document No. 1523.)
>> >>   On April 10, 1943, Oswald Pohl, head of the Economic
>> >>Administration Office of the camps issued a letter stating that
>> >>persons with tuberculosis were being sent to the camps resulting
>> >>in the "shockingly high mortality figures." (Source: Nuremberg
>> >>Documents.) Later on Sept. 30, 1943, Pohl was able to show that
>> >>the camp death rate had been reduced from 8.5% in July, 1942 to
>> >>2.8% in June 1943.
>
>So what?!
>
>>
>> >>   The German SS arrested Buchenwald Commandant, Karl Koch in
>> >>1943 for mistreating and even executing some prisoners. After an
>> >>investigation Koch was found guilty by SS Judge Konrad Morgen
>> >>and shot. Does this sound like a policy of "extermination?"
>> >>   With suspicion rapidly rising about the holocaust claim a
>> >>committee of Jewish leaders from New York and Paris met with
>> >>communist leaders in Warsaw. There they established the
>> >>"Committee for the Investigation of War Crimes and War
>> >>Criminals". It was after this meeting that the announcement
>> >>was made that all gas chambers were located in Poland.
>> >>
>
>There were mobile gas chambers
>
>>
>> >>                  THE  PROBLEMS OF MASS GASSING
>> >>
>> >>   In 1945 it was announced that gas death chambers existed in
>> >>all concentration camps in Poland, Germany, Austria and Alsace.
>> >>Some 15 years later, in 1960, this was revised to the new claim
>> >>that gas chambers existed only in camps located in Soviet held
>> >>Poland. Simon Weisenthal of the Los Angeles Holocaust center
>> >>states in the paper, "Books and Bookmen", April 1975, page 5,
>> >>"No gassing took place in any camp on German soil."
>> >>   The pressure had been growing since The Vatican, Red Cross,
>> >>English Intelligence and German Intelligence chiefs Canaris and
>> >>Oster (who collaborated with the British) either did not know or
>> >>believe in rumors of gassings.
>> >>
>
>This is anti-Semitic the Vatican , UK and Germany are well known
>anti-Semitic regimes.
>
>>
>> >>   This brings up the following questions.
>> >>   1) Germans are meticulous record keepers but there is not one
>> >>order for the construction of any gas chamber, no blueprint, no
>> >>photo of any gas chamber or gassed victims.
>> >>   2) There have been thousands on investigations of alleged
>> >>Nazi war criminals, hundreds of trials, yet not one person was
>> >>ever accused of being involved with actual gassings! No reliable
>> >>witness on either side has ever come forward who saw a single
>> >>person gassed-AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN OVER 10,000
>> >>MASS GASSINGS!
>> >>   3) Photos of bodies at Dachau and Belsen camps are of
>> >>prisoners who died of typhus and malnutrition. Many Germans also
>> >>died from typhus.
>> >>   4) The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed
>> >>camp inmates at the end of the war about alleged gas chambers.
>> >>the response was always the same, "The detainees themselves have
>> >>not spoken of them." (From the Red Cross document No. 9925, June
>> >>1946.)
>> >>
>> >>             FORCED CONFESSIONS OF GASSINGS
>> >>
>> >>   Rudoft Hoess was the commandant of Auschwitz from 1940 to
>> >>1943. captured by the Soviets they extracted a confession to
>> >>mass gassings using Zyclon-B gas. Such "confessions" are about
>> >>as reliable as any forced by Stalin from victims tortured before
>> >>taking the stand to confess during the Moscow show trials of
>> >>1936. The communists wrote the "Confession' and Hoess signed it.
>> >>Later he was hanged. An assistant commandant refused to sign-he
>> >>died in his cell.
>> >>   Hoess statement read, "half an hour after having released the
>> >>gas, they opened the door and started the ventilation machines.
>> >>They began immediately to extract the bodies while eating and
>> >>smoking."
>> >>   Was Hoess trying to get a message across that there were no
>> >>gassing? Zyclon-B is not "ventable". The manufacturers state
>> >>Zyclon-B adheres to surface clothing and skin. They say that
>> >>only after a 24 hour period, wearing a gas mask with the
>> >>strongest filter, could any bodies be removed without killing
>> >>such workers. If we believe the Hoess confession that the
>> >>workers ran into the gas chamber "eating and smoking" - without
>> >>gas masks - only minutes after the gassing - IF THIS OCCURRED
>> >>ALL WOULD HAVE DIED!
>> >>
>> >>                    GAS STORIES NOT POSSIBLE
>> >>
>> >>   The Jew Mosche Pearlmann in his book, "The Capture and Trial
>> >>of Adolph Eichmann" pages 375 and 385 states Zyclon-B crystals
>> >>were introduced from the ceilings of the gas chambers and
>> >>"became immediately gaseous."
>> >>   The American Cyanamid Co. of Linden N.J. states: "We know of
>> >>no chemical process whereby HCN (Zyclon-B) may be made to become
>> >>instantly gaseous upon exposure to air."
>> >>
>> >>                  CLAIMS OF WILLIAM SHIRER
>> >>
>> >>   Shirer claims the gas was released from overhead through fake
>> >>shower outlets, (page 970) and quickly killed its victims. The
>> >>truth is that Zyclon-B gas is lighter than air and would rise to
>> >>the ceiling so that anyone throwing themselves to the floor
>> >>would be saved. Shirer also quotes the Soviet written confession
>> >>signed by Hoess as stating (page 968), "We knew when the people
>> >>were dead because their screaming stopped." If anyone were
>> >>actually killed with a cyanide type gas they would die instantly
>> >>thus there would be no screaming at all. The truth is that
>> >>Zyclon-B was used to delouse inmates clothing of lice and fleas
>> >>which carry typhus.
>> >>
>> >>               THE PROBLEM OF THE CREMATORIUMS
>> >>
>> >>   At the Auschwitz I camp there were only 6 crematory ovens. At
>> >>the hospital in Auschwitz II there are 46 single cremators. In
>> >>the Lubin camp there were only 6. THAT'S ALL!  In these three
>> >>camps 3 to 4 million Jews were supposed to have been
>> >>exterminated and their bodies cremated. Also, these cremation
>> >>ovens were very small with only 18' doors and a time period of
>> >>from 4 to 6 hours burning for each body using a large amount of
>> >>coal. Cremation for those who passed away was used in the camps
>> >>to prevent epidemics. Also, no large supplies of coal were ever
>> >>stored at the camps for cremations.
>> >>   A VERY INTERESTING NOTE appears only in the German edition of
>> >>William L. Shirer's book, "The Rise and Fall of the Third
>> >>Reich." It seems the Didler-Werke Company, which built the
>> >>crematory ovens, sued Shirer who previously wrote that millions
>> >>of people were gassed and then burned in this company's ovens.
>> >>In an out-of-court settlement of the suit Shirer agreed to add
>> >>the following footnote on page 972 of the German edition:
>> >>   "The Didler-Werke have raised objection to the name of their
>> >>firm appearing in the chapter concerning the extermination
>> >>camps. Dr. S. Trastel, a professor of engineering in a statement
>> >>of Aug. 1961 established that the measurements are those which
>> >>are standard for a crematory oven of not very modern design
>> >>intended for small cemeteries and would be unsuitable for mass
>> >>burning."
>> >>   WHY IS THIS DELETED FROM THE ENGLISH EDITION???
>> >>   On the question of cremating 6,000,000 people - this would
>> >>leave 15,000 tons of ashes! Such gigantic piles of ashes created
>> >>over the short 2 1/2 year period the holocaust supposedly took
>> >>place would have been very difficult to dispose of. No one has
>> >>ever come forward to report seeing such huge piles of tons of
>> >>ashes.
>> >>   It was not until 1960 that the Soviets opened the Auschwitz
>> >>camp to tourists and independent investigators. No gas chamber
>> >>could be found. The official answer was that it was "taken to
>> >>another camp for gassings and then later went into oblivion!"
>> >>
>> >>           WHAT EXPERTS SAY ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST
>> >>
>> >>   Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes, eminent historian, author of 40
>> >>books, many standard college texts, noted in Rampart Journal,
>> >>1967. "It has been demonstrated that there had been no
>> >>systematic extermination in those camps."
>> >>   Thies Christopherden, a German soldier and author: "I was at
>> >>Auschwitz! There was no gas chamber there."
>> >>   Paul Rassiner, historian and anti-Nazi activist, who served a
>> >>prison sentence in Buchenwald and the Dora camps stated in 1962.
>> >>"The claim that a holocaust took place is an historic lie - the
>> >>most tragic and most macabre imposture of all time."
>> >>   Prof. Robert Faurisson, a specialist in Document Analysis at
>> >>the University of Lyon. France, stated on April 25, 1979. "The
>> >>holocaust lie, which is largely of Zionist origin, has made an
>> >>enormous political and financial fraud possible, whose
>> >>principal beneficiary is the state of Israel."
>> >>
>> >>                WHY THE HOLOCAUST CAMPAIGN
>> >>
>> >>   Hardly a week goes by when there are not stories in the
>> >>press, on TV-News or movies about the alleged holocaust. What is
>> >>the long range design for this constant attempt to fill Germans
>> >>and indeed all Christians with a feeling of guilt over a
>> >>holocaust which never occurred?
>> >>   Bernard Postal wrote in the Jewish Week, July 14, 1979, "Not
>> >>until after the holocaust, did anti-Semitism become taboo. There
>> >>was a time when anti-Semitic speeches were an open factor in
>> >>national campaigns. The holocaust put a taboo on overt anti-
>> >>Semitism among upper-level statesmen and publicists."
>> >>   S.E.D. Brown of South Africa, a noted journalist writes, "The
>> >>holocaust instills a guilt complex in those said to be guilty
>> >>and spreads the demoralization, degeneration, and eventually the
>> >>destruction of the natural racial elite among a people. This
>> >>transfers effective political control to the lowest elements who
>> >>will cowtow to the Jews."
>> >>   Zionist spokesmen often boast of: "The shattering effect of
>> >>the holocaust on the Christian conscience resulting in a feeling
>> >>of collective indebtedness to the Jews."
>> >>   Massive unending U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel in made possible
>> >>because anyone who dares to oppose these outrageous giveaways is
>> >>condemned as being "anti-Semitic" and "insensitive" to holocaust
>> >>victims.
>> >>   The Jews hold an unnatural violent hatred for the German
>> >>people. Jews seek to turn all other peoples of the world against
>> >>the Germans and keep that nation divided for all time to come.
>> >>That is why no peace treaty has ever been signed as yet with
>> >>Germany and they still live under Allied military occupation
>> >>laws.
>> >>
>> >>                 A QUESTION OF FUND RAISING
>> >>
>> >>   The Wall Street Journal quotes Jewish professional fund-
>> >>raising consultant firm of Milton Goldin Co., as saying the main
>> >>theme of Jewish fund-raising is the holocaust and has been for
>> >>38 years. When they don't use the holocaust the money collection
>> >>sharply drops off. Thus the more the Press, TV and Hollywood
>> >>promotes the holocaust the more money the United Jewish Appeal
>> >>and other Zionist funds can extract from gullible people.
>> >>
>
>Hollywood, and most of the media are controlled by anti-Semitic people
>
>>
>> >>                 HOLOCAUST SILENCES OPPOSITION
>> >>
>> >>   Jewish leaders have discovered that by repeating holocaust
>> >>stories over and over again they can instill a guilt complex
>> >>within all Gentiles. This effectively silences most critics of
>> >>Zionist political goals.
>
>A minute of silence for the Holocaust victims; not to forget to pay your
>share in holocaust survival compensation it is tax exempted.



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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 01:01:49 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>
>>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>>question how many may have died in WWII!!!
>>
>>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!
>>
>>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>>involved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, vagabond@idirect.com (William
>>Markiewicz) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at.  See the
>>>Communication Page, August 97 issue 
>>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>>
>>sperati wrote:
>>> 
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>> 
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> 
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>> 
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>> 
>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>> 
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>> 
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>> 
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>> 
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>> 
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>> 
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>> 
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>> 
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>> 
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>> 
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>> 
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>> 
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>> 
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>> 
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>> 
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>> 
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>> 
>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>
>>
>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!



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On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:42 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:
>>On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP  wrote:


>>>LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London's History

>>>DAILY MAIL
>>>Monday June 15 1998
>>>By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN
>
>>>Revealed: The men accused in 
>>>31.8 million State Benefit Racket
>
>>>THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters 
>>>over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was 
>>>highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank 
>>>Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at 
>>>slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud.
>
>>>At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has 
>>>since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest 
>>>ever alleged welfare frauds.
>
>>>They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38, 
>>>who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their 
>>>sprawling homes in a North London suburb.
>
>>>Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of 
>>>what Mr Field described as 'an extended family' about 
>>>allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing 
>>>benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed 
>>>by officers from a special undercover task force set up by 
>>>the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage 
>>>fraud worth £31.2 million.
>
>>>The investigators are said to be checking on any links with 
>>>massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members 
>>>of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used 
>>>fake identities to make bogus benefit claims.
>
>>>Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the 
>>>ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill, 
>>>North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation 
>>>has caused consider-able anger.
>
>>>At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter, 
>>>Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight 
>>>to clear his name.
>
>>>'This investigation is without foundation and is a complete 
>>>waste of taxpayers' money,' he insisted. 'All of our finances 
>>>are in good order. There has been no fraud.
>
>>>'It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism. 
>>>This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent 
>>>community which we have here. We just want to be able to 
>>>get on with our lives in peace.
>
>>>'When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a 
>>>police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed. 
>>>This should not have been allowed to happen.'
>
>>>Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached 
>>>at his family home, his wife Rivka said: 'He has no 
>>>comment to make.' Eichenstein lists his official home 
>>>as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home 
>>>where his wife and children live.
>
>>>Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm 
>>>which acts as the registered office for the majority of 
>>>the men's companies con-firmed that they had been contacted 
>>>by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing 
>>>to examine their records.
>
>>>Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a 
>>>network of companies and properties associated 
>>>with the family.
>
>>>All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein 
>>>are within a stone's throw of each other on the Stamford 
>>>Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties 
>>>Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein's home.
>
>>>Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties 
>>>since January and Amvex Investments since 1992.
>
>>>The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a 
>>>major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling 
>>>of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby.
>
>>>Police activity is all but non-existent - patrol cars are 
>>>already overstretched by the criminal activity related 
>>>to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the 
>>>southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat.
>
>>>Both men, together with three women and another man to 
>>>whom they are related are currently on bail and have to 
>>>return to Stoke Newington police station at the 
>>>end of this month.
>
>>>The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids 
>>>on four houses in April - is seen by Mr Field as the first 
>>>of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team.
>
>>>Ministers have decided that they want to 'name and shame' 
>>>convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a 
>>>'revival of common decencies'.
>
>>>The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised 
>>>housing benefit rackets in London - an initiative which 
>>>the Government now plans to extend right across the country.
>
>>>The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting 
>>>loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious 
>>>identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of 
>>>benefit allowances in various parts of London and 
>>>other cities in Britain.
>
>>>Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime 
>>>bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week.
>
>>>The Minister said: 'We are going for the big boys, while 
>>>at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much 
>>>tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in 
>>>Britain today.'
>
>>>He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31 
>>>billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite 
>>>repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers.



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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:17:34 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Fri, 01 May 1998 14:06:39 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>Interesting artcile from Deja News.
>>If true, why no legal action??
>>
>>>From - Tue Sep 23 12:47:40 1997
>>>Return-path: 
>>
>>>From: NSWPP-CSU 
>>>Subject: Jewish Mafia Controls Ukrainian Media
>>
>>======================================================
>>       THE CAMPAIGN FOR RADICAL TRUTH IN HISTORY
>>   Visit our News Bureau, Archives and Bookstore at
>>              http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>=====================================================
>>
>>Jewish Mafia Takes Over Ukrainian and E. European Television----------
>>
>>According to an article in the April 5, 1997 N.Y. Times, "TV Venture
>>by Cosmetics Heir Raises Questions," Zionist mogul and former U.S.
>>ambassador to Austria Ronald Lauder, has united with Vadim Rabinovich,
>>a Ukrainian millionaire who spent nine years in prison for theft and
>>has ties to the Jewish mafia in Ukraine, to build a media
>>empire--Central European Media
>>Enterprises-- in the countries of the former Soviet Union.
>>
>>The Jewish owned Central European Media controls television stations
>>in seven East European countries in the region. Ukrainian TV is
>>controlled by its subsidiary, the Studio 11 Group, its local partner
>>in Kiev.
>>
>>Rabinovich is linked to Grigory Loutchansky, a Russian-Jew, whose
>>company, Nordex, is believed to be a front for the Russian-Jewish
>>mafia.
>>
>>The Times says, "Rabinovich was jailed from 1982 to 1990 for theft
>>from the state. He said in an interview that he had been chief of a
>>construction brigade and had sold goods to private customers. He said
>>he had committed no real crime and had been persecuted for being
>>Jewish.
>>
>>"...Central European Media sought to expand into Ukraine a year ago.
>>At the outset, Fertig (its chief of operations) said, its
>>representatives were referred to Rabinovich and his partners by a
>>close adviser and  assistant to President Leonid Kuchma of Ukraine,
>>who praised the Ukraine group. And when questions arose about the
>>legality of the broadcast license  received by the joint venture, the
>>same presidential adviser obtained a letter declaring that the license
>>had been awarded properly.
>>
>>"...(C)oncerns about his business activities led the British
>>government to bar Loutchansky from entering the country...An
>>intelligence summary prepared by a Western government, and
>>corroborated by senior U.S. diplomats, said Ostex, one of Rabinovich's
>>companies, had been created  as an arm of Nordex, a claim that
>>Rabinovich disputed.
>>
>>"In the interview in his office in a modern building in Kiev,
>>Rabinovich said he had worked with Nordex for about a year but had
>>broken off the relationship two years ago because of bad publicity
>>about Loutchansky. He said his companies, which are engaged in many
>>businesses, had only legitimate interests...
>>
>>"Lauder, whose mother founded Estee Lauder Cosmetics, created Central
>>European Media in 1994. He predicted last year that the company would
>>have annual revenues of $1 billion within five years, but it has run
>>up steady losses to date. The company reported last month that it lost
>>$30 million in 1996 compared with losses of $18.7 million in 1995 and
>>$20.5  million in 1994.
>>
>>"When the company sought to enter the Ukraine market a year ago,
>>Fertig said, its executives were referred to Rabinovich and his
>>partners in Studio 11 by Oleksandra Volkov, an assistant and close
>>adviser to Kuchma.
>>
>>Western diplomats and businessmen said Volkov also owned a piece of 
>>Studio 11, but Fertig said he was unaware of that investment.
>>
>>"Along with the recommendation from the presidential adviser, the
>>company executives also were impressed by a photograph in Rabinovich's
>>office that showed him with President Clinton and Vice President Al
>>Gore, according to a person close to the company.
>>
>>"The photograph was taken in late 1995 at a Democratic fund-raising
>>party in Miami, Rabinovich said. He said he had not donated money to
>>the Democrats but had been invited to the event by Bennett LeBow, an
>>American businessman whose interests include Liggett Group, the big
>>cigarette manufacturer.
>>
>>"...Last summer Central European Media negotiated a partnership
>>agreement with Studio 11 Group that gave the American company a 50
>>percent economic interest in the operation, which was broadcasting
>>about five hours a day on Ukrainian television.
>>
>>"Studio 11 received a license last fall to expand its broadcast time
>>on Ukraine's commercial channel, UT 2, to nine hours a day, including
>>prime time. The license, also sought by other companies, was issued
>>despite a moratorium imposed by Parliament.
>>
>>"...The Ukraine deal is important to Central European Media. In a
>>stock offering last fall, which raised $132 million, the company said
>>the Ukraine partnership had more than doubled its market reach.
>>
>>"A cablegram from the embassy to the State Department in Washington in
>>September raised questions about Rabinovich's background and said he
>>was 'largely considered beyond the reach of the law in Ukraine,'
>>according to a copy provided to The New York Times." (End quote).
>>
>>Once again we see the worldwide Media Monopoly extend its suzerainty
>>thanks to their Money Power and the betrayal of the people by the
>>Pres. of Ukraine and other Judases.
>>
>>
>>>for further info contact http://www.nswpp.org



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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:28:11 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:01:08 -0600, Ed Kadach 
>wrote:
>
>>>Hitler's Jewish Army
>>>
>>>"Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim." --Elie Wiesel
>>>speaking of World War Two.
>>>
>>>"If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing what
>>>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>>>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>>>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>>
>>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>>>'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf
>>>Hitler's knowledge and approval.
>>>
>>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including
>>>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>>>lieutenant generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to
>>>100,000 troops."
>>>
>>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>>>Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's
>>>Cross.
>>>
>>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>>>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>>
>>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish
>>>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>>
>>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>>>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew
>>>and who is an Aryan.''
>>>
>>>Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>>>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>>
>>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>>>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>>>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>>>
>>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>>>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards
>>>(kapos).
>>>
>>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>>>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>>>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>>
>>>Sources:
>>>
>>>William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>>
>>>Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>>
>>>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.



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On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:37:55 GMT, meowbot@bungmunch.edu (Friendly
Neighborhood Meowbot) wrote:

>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>)Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>)reconsidered by thinking readers.
>)
>)
>)On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>)>Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org
>)>
>)>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>)>From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>)>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>)>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>)
>)
>)>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
>)	
>)>	One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian
>)>Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>)>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>)>them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
>)>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>)>and lead revolutionary movement.
>)
>)>	First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>)>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
>)>Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
>)>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>)>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>)>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 
>)
>)>	While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>)>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
>)>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>)>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>)>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>)>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>)>Archives:         
>)        
>)>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>)>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>)>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
>)         
>)>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>)>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>)>each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        
>)
>)>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>)>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>)>Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>)>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
>)>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type." 
>)       
>)         
>)>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>)>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were 384
>)>`commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>)>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>)>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>)>Government."         
>)
>)>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>)>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>)>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>)>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>)>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>
>Trotsky was a tailor in New York City for 10 years prior to fomenting
>violence, revolution and murderin Russia.  Rumor has it that he mated
>with a diseased chihuahua and begat Guy Polis (guy@panix.com).
>
>)>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>)>Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
>)>Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>)>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>)>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>)>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>)>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>)>Moisei Uritsky. 
>)
>)>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>)>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>)>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>)>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>)>trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 
>)
>)>The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>)>"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>)>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>)>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>)>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things." 
>)
>)>In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>)>here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>)>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>)>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>)>United States Senate, 65th Congress: 
>)
>)>"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>)>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>)>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>)>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>)>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>)>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>)>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>)>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>)>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>)>Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>)>of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest
>)>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>)>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>)>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>)>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>)>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>)>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>)>Gordon. 
>)
>)>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>)>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>)>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>)>often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>)>all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>)>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>)>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>)>were Jews. 
>)
>)>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>)>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>)>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>)>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>)>did not take kindly to it." 
>)
>)>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>)>"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
>)>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>)
>)>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>)>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>)>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>)>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>)>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>)>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
>)>Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 
>)
>)>"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>)>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>)>many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>)>4, 1919) 
>)	
>)>"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>)>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>)
>)>"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>)>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>)>the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 
>)
>)>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>)>so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>)>himself:
>)
>)>"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>)>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>)>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>)>cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>)>penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>)
>)>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>)>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>)>virtually untouched.
>)
>)>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>)>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>)>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>)>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
>)>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>)>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>)>American professor of Russian history. . . "  
>)
>)>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>)>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>)>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>)>Communist bosses.
>) 
>)>Regards,
>)>Roger Hughes
>)
>)>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>)>Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People 
>)>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>)>                http://www.natall.com  
>)>                http://www.natvan.com
>)>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>)>     Roger's Page  http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/
>)>      Keep It White Because You Know It's Right!
>)>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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>)>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



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On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:12:03 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:13:12 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On 02 May 1998 16:44:09 GMT, panjanusz@aol.com (Pan Janusz) wrote:
>>
>>>Translated from Polish:
>>
>>>Reprinted from "Polish Weekly"  published in Australia.
>>
>>>Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued the extradition papers
>>>for war criminal Samuel Morel. Polish authorities will ask authorities in
>>>Israel to extradite Morel.
>>>Morel is accused of "cruel treatment and tortures of prisoners and jeopardizing
>>>their safety and health." Using common language, between years 1945-1950 he was
>>>beating prisoners, torturing and killing them.
>>
>>>Morel was born in 1919, from 1940 was a member of Jewish band which was
>>>assaulting Polish villages in province of Kielce and robbing Polish farmers. In
>>>December of 1942 during one of their assaults the band was destroyed by a
>>>detachment of People's Army ( communist guerillas in nazi occupied Poland).
>>>Father and brother of Morel were executed, he alone became a member of the
>>>People's Army. He defected from the group when Red Army was inching toward
>>>province of Kielce and became a member of Soviet guerillas.
>>>Soon he became an officer of UB (communist Security Office in Soviet occupied
>>>Poland).
>>>In the beginning of 1945 he was sent to the region of Silesia and received the
>>>nomination on the camp commandant for Germans in Swietochlowice.
>>> About his crime committed in this camp wrote, among others, an American
>>>journalist John Sack in his book "Eye for an eye" ( for this book John Sack who
>>>is a Jew was decalred an antisemite).
>>>In the end of December of 1945 Morel had been transferred and became a warden
>>>of the UB prison in Opole. There he tortured Poles and Germans. He also
>>>tortured minors in the labor camp in Jaworzno which he was a commandant between
>>>1946-1950. He was fired from this post, for mortality among prisoners was too
>>>big. 
>>
>>>In 1991 he was interviewed by a prosecutor, panicked and fled to Israel.
>>>After spending all his money, within few months he returned to Poland, but soon
>>>he surfaced in Sweden where he demanded political asylum argumenting that he
>>>was persecuted in Poland because he was a Jew. His plea was rejected and Morel
>>>again came back to Poland. 
>>>On 10th of July Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued arrest
>>>warrant. They were late. Morel again fled to Israel.
>>>His retirement pention is being picked up by the wife of the criminal.
>>>Since 1996 Morel is on the most wanted list of the INTERPOL.
>>>According to international law he should be arrested by Israeli police and
>>>charged by Israel with war crimes.
>>>He should.....
>>
>>>Translated by Janusz Styber
>>



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On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:13:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:37:14 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>I think that you forgot the Polish JEW, Felix Dzerzhinski, the subhuman
>>who established the Soviet secret police.
>>
>>he and his gangs of murdering JEW Kommissars are responsible for the
>>murders of tens of millions in Russia, as well as the more than 30
>>millions they killed in the Ukraine!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>Clancy wrote:
>>> 
>>> "Some call it Marxism  I call it Judaism."
>>> (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise,  May 5, 1935).
>>> 
>>> 
>>>                             Top Jewish Communists
>>> 
>>>  Of the top 556 functionaries in the first Communist Russian
>>> government, over 400 were Jews. Of the first 119 members of the
>>> Communist Russian Council ruling Russia, 81 were Jews.
>>> 
>>> V.I. Lenin, supreme dictator. Leon Bronstein (Trotsky): supreme commander
>>> of the Soviet Red Army. Grigory Apfelbaum (Zinoviev): executive, Soviet
>>> Secret Police. Solomon Lozovsky: deputy Soviet foreign minister. Maxim
>>> Wallach (Litvinov): Soviet foreign minister. Yuri Andropov: director,
>>> Soviet KGB, later supreme dictator of the Soviet Union.
>>> 
>>> Jacob Sverdlov: first president of the Soviet Union. Sverdlov ordered the
>>> massacre of the Czar's family--women and children--in the town named after
>>> Catherine the Great, Yekaterinburg, (renamed Sverdlovsk in 1924 in honor of
>>> the murderer).
>>> 
>>> Jacob Yurovsky: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Yurovsky led the death
>>> squad which carried out Sverdlov's order for the murder of the Czar's
>>> family, including the bayoneting to death of the Czar's daughters. The
>>> Ipatyev house, where, in the basement, the massacre had occurred, stood
>>> intact until 1977, when the local Communist party boss at that time, Boris
>>> Yeltsin, ordered it demolished, lest it become a shrine to anti-Jewish
>>> sentiment.
>>> 
>>>  Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich : chief mass murderer for Stalin, ordered
>>>  the deaths of millions and the wholesale destruction of Christian monuments
>>> and churches, including the great Cathedral of Christ the Savior.
>>> Standing amid the rubble of the cathedral, Kaganovich proclaimed,
>>> "Mother Russia is cast down. We have ripped away her skirts."
>>> (N.Y. Times, Sept. 26, 1995).
>>> 
>>> Mikhail Kaganovich: deputy commissar of heavy industry, supervisor of slave
>>> labor, brother of Lazar. Rosa Kaganovich: Stalin's mistress; sister of
>>> Lazar. Paulina Zhemchuzina: member of the Central Committee and wife of
>>> Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov. Olga Bronstein: officer, Soviet Cheka
>>> Secret Police, sister of Trotsky, wife of Kamenev.
>>> 
>>> Genrikh Yagoda: chief of Soviet Secret Police, mass murderer
>>> extraordinaire. (Jewish poet Romain Rolland, winner of the Nobel Prize,
>>> wrote a hymn of praise to Yagoda).
>>> 
>>> Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel: founders, the Gulag death camp system.
>>> 
>>> Lev Inzhir, commissar for Soviet death camp transit and administration.
>>> Boris Berman: executive officer of the Soviet Secret Police and brother of
>>> Matvei. K.V. Pauker: chief of operations, Soviet NKVD Secret Police.
>>> 
>>> Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk: commissars of death camps and slave labor,
>>> supervised the mass deaths of laborers during the construction of the White
>>> Sea--Baltic Canal.
>>> 
>>> M.I. Gay: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Slutsky and Shpiegelglas:
>>> commanders, Soviet Secret Police. Isaac Babel: officer, Soviet Secret
>>> Police.
>>> 
>>> Leiba Lazarevich Feldbin (Aleksandr Orlov): commander, Soviet Red Army;
>>> officer, Soviet Secret Police. Feldbin was chief of Soviet Security in the
>>> Spanish Civil War. He supervised the massacre of Catholic priests and
>>> peasants in Spain.
>>> 
>>> Yona Yakir: general, Soviet Red Army, member of the Central Committee.
>>> Dimitri Shmidt: general, Soviet Red Army. Yakov ("Yankel") Kreiser:
>>> general, Soviet Red Army. Miron Vovsi: general, Soviet Red Army.
>>> 
>>> David Dragonsky: general, Soviet Red Army, Hero of the Soviet Union.
>>> Grigori Shtern: general, Soviet Red Army. Mikhail Chazkelevich: general,
>>> Soviet Red Army. Shimon Kirvoshein: general, Soviet Red Army. Arseni
>>> Raskin: deputy-commander, Soviet Red Army. Haim Fomin, commander of
>>> Brest-Litovsk, Soviet Red Army. At least one hundred Soviet generals were
>>> Jewish (cf. Canadian Jewish News, April 19, 1989).
>>> 
>>> Generals who were not themselves Jewish often had Jewish wives. Among these
>>> were Marshal Voroshilov, Marshal Bulganin, Marshal Peresypkin and General
>>> Pavel Sudoplatov (Sudoplatov assassinated hundreds of Christian leaders
>>> including Ukranian Catholic Archbishop Teodor Romzha). This Jewish wife
>>> "insurance policy" extended to Politburo members such as Andrei Andreyev
>>> and Leonoid Brezhnev.
>>> 
>>> Sergei Eisenstein: director of communist propaganda films which depicted
>>> Christian peasants (kulaks) as hideous, money-grabbing parasites. The
>>> kulaks were subsequently massacred. (Cf. for example Eisenstein's Bezhin
>>> Meadow).
>>> 
>>> KOMZET: commission for the settlement of Jewish Communists on land seized
>>> from murdered Christians in Ukraine; funded by Jewish-American financier
>>> Julius Rosenwald.
>>> 
>>> Ilya Ehrenburg, Minister of Soviet Propaganda he won the Order of Lenin
>>> and the Stalin Prize. He willed his papers to the Israeli Yad Vashem
>>> 'Holocaust' Museum.
>>> 
>>> Solomon Mikhoels: commissar of Soviet propaganda. Soviet film
>>> propagandists: Mark Donsky, Leonid Lukov, Yuli Reisman, Vasily
>>> Grossman,Yevgeny Gabrilovich, Boris Volchok and Lillian Hellman (old movies
>>> written by her continue to be broadcast on American telelvision).
>>> 
>>> Soviet propagandist: Yevgeny Khaldei who staged the photo of the raising of
>>> the hammer and sickle flag over the Reichstag in Berlin, May 2, 1945.
>>> Afterward, a special plane was waiting to fly Khaldei, Stalin's top Tass
>>> photographer, to a Moscow lab, where his photo was further doctored (loot
>>> displayed on one of the Soviet soldier's wrists was removed in the negative
>>> and Khaldei added clouds and smoke to the scene for dramatic effect (see
>>> photo of Khaldei and his beloved flag at left). Khaldei continued to work
>>> as a premier Soviet propagandist until his retirement from Pravda in 1972.
>>> His Communist propaganda is proudly on display at the Jewish Museum of New
>>> York and the Jewish Museum of San Francisco.
>>> 
>>> Nikolai Bukharin: Lenin's chief theorist. Samuel Agursky: commissar. Karl
>>> Radek: member, Central Committee. Mikhail Gruzenberg (Borodin) commissar.
>>> A.A. Yoffe: commissar. David Ryazanov: advisor to Lenin. Lev Grigorievich
>>> Levin: physician, poisoner of Stalin's enemies. Lev Rosenfeld (Kamenev):
>>> member of the Central Committee.
>>> 
>>> Ivan Maisky: Soviet Ambassador to Britain. Itzik Solomonovich Feffer:
>>> commissar, Soviet Secret Police. Abraham Sutskever: Soviet
>>> terrorist-partisan. Mark Osipovich Reizen: Soviet propagandist, winner of
>>> three Stalin Prizes. Lev Leopold Trepper: Soviet espionage officer.
>>> 
>>> Bela Kun (Kohen): supreme dictator of Hungary in 1919. Kun was later
>>> Stalin's chief terrorist in the Crimea. Kun's eventual successor was Matyas
>>> Rakosi, Jewish Communist mass murderer of Christians in Hungary. According
>>> to the Jewish Telegraph Agency of May 14, 1997, Jews "...played key roles
>>> in ushering Communist rule into Hungary. In fact, during the brutal
>>> oppression of the early 1950s, the regime's top five leaders were Jews. "
>>> 
>>> Zakharovich Mekhlis: top executioner for Stalin. Henrykas Zimanas: leader
>>> of Lithuanian communist terrorists, butcher of Christians.
>>> 
>>> Moshe Pijade (sometimes spelled Piade): commander, Yugoslav Communist
>>> People's Army. Tito's top butcher of hundreds of thousands of Croatian
>>> Christians. Pijade later served as president of the Yugoslav Communist
>>> Parliament. At least eighteen generals in the Yugoslav Communist People's
>>> Army were Jewish. The Yugoslavian communist party sent massive arms
>>> shipments to Jewish fighters in Palestine in the 1940s.
>>> 
>>> In post-war Poland that nation was completely dominated by Jewish
>>> communists: the torturer Jacek Rozanski, head of the Secret Police;
>>> the Politboro commander Jacob Berman  and commissars Minc, Specht
>>> (Olszewski) and Spychalski.
>>> 
>>> These men murdered or deported to Kolyma and the other Arctic death
>>> camps, tens of thousands of Catholic Poles.
>>> 
>>> According to Jewish researcher John Sack, "In 1945 many Poles felt (and not
>>> without reason) that Jews ran the Office of State Security...the chief of
>>> the Office was Jacob Berman, a Jew, and all or almost all the department
>>> heads were Jews." Sack reports that 75% of the officers of the Communist
>>> Secret Police in Silesia were Jews. He noted that many Jews in the
>>> Communist terror apparatus in Poland changed their names to Polish ones
>>> like :  (cf. John Sack, The New Republic, Feb. 14, 1994, p. 6.
>>> 
>>> ROMAN ROMKOWSKI (Natan Grunspau Kikiel),
>>> JULIUSZ HIBNER (David Schwartz).
>>> JOZEF ROZANSKI (Goldberg)
>>> JERZY BORESZA ( Goldberg)
>>> ROMAN ZAMBROWSKI (Rubin Nussbaum)
>>> EUGENIUSZ SZYR
>>> LUNA BYSTRYGIER .
>>> ANATOL FEIGIN
>>> JOZEF SWIATLO
>>> Capt. STUDENCKI
>>>  Lt. JURKOWSKI.
>>> ZYGMUNT OKRET
>>> TADEUSZ ZABLUDOWSKI
>>> ROMAN WERLF.
>>> LEON KASMAN,
>>> 
>>> Generals: WIKTOR GROSZ, ARTHUR STAROWICZ, ADAM SCHAFF,
>>> ZYGMUNT MODZELEWSKI,MARIAN NASZKOWSKI,
>>> MIECZYSLAW OGRODZINSKI, JULIUSZ KATZ-SUCHYSa
>>> 
>>> In Poland, "...a disproportionate number of Communists were Jews. In 1930,
>>> at its peak, 35% of the members of the party were Jewish. In Communist
>>> youth organizations, Jewish membership was even higher, while Communists of
>>> Jewish origin occupied most of the seats on the central committee.
>>> Communism appealed to some Jews because it opposed anti-Semitism more
>>> vigorously than any other Polish party...Jewish Communists reached their
>>> apogee in the years immediately after World War Two, when the party
>>> leadership was totally in the hands of the prewar Communist leadership that
>>> abhorred anti-Semitism." (Sheldon Kirshner, The Canadian Jewish News, Nov.
>>> 5, 1992, p. 16).
>>> 
>>> Of course when one encounters the issue of Jews, Communists and Catholics
>>> in Poland in the Establishment media or universities today, the mass murder
>>> of the Polish Catholics at the hands of the Jewish Communists, is never
>>> raised.
>>> 
>>> "The average Pole could not but notice in the Stalinist era that the two most
>>> powerful men in the country--Berman and Minc--were both Jewish as was
>>> the dreaded security official Rozanski."
>>> Piotr S. Wandycz of Yale University (N.Y. Review of Books,
>>>  Aug. 18, 1983, p. 51).
>>> 
>>> Julius Hammer, M.D.: New York abortionist and co-founder of the American
>>> communist party. Armand Hammer: fundraiser and financier for Lenin and
>>> Stalin, son of Julius.
>>> 
>>> Lev Davidovich Landau: Stalinist physicist, co-father of the Soviet atomic
>>> bomb. Klaus Fuchs: helped steal atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Ruth
>>> Werner: colonel, Red Army GRU intelligence, assisted Fuchs. Julius and
>>> Ethel Rosenberg: stole American atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Morris
>>> Cohen (Peter Kroger): assisted the Rosenbergs. Markus Wolf: chief of
>>> German Communist Stasi Secret Police.
>>> 
>>> Howard Fast: American communist propagandist for Stalin. David
>>> Dubinsky: Stalin's ally, head of the U.S. International Ladies Garment
>>> Workers Union. Nahum Goldmann: founder, World Jewish Congress, communist
>>> propagandist. Rabbi Moses Rosen: agent, Romanian communist party. Victor
>>> Rothschild: top British espionage agent for Stalin.
>>> 
>>> Mark Zborowski:  "...considered by historians of Soviet terror operations to
>>> have been the most fearsome...(Soviet) spy of all time" (Stephen Schwartz,
>>> Forward, Jan. 26, 1996). Zborowski, a medical researcher, murdered a
>>> dissident with a poisoned orange at the Soviet-run hospital in Paris.
>>> Zborowski was implicated in several other assassinations in 1936 and 1937.
>>> In the 1940s worked for both the American Jewish Committee and the KGB. In
>>> the 1960s Zborowski worked as a medical researcher at Mount Zion Hospital
>>> in San Francisco. He trained numerous psychiatrists and medical specialists
>>> in the Bay Area. He died in 1990 (cf. "The Strange Case of Doctor Zborowski
>>> and Monsieur Etienne" by Philippe Videlier, in Le Monde Diplomatique, Dec.
>>> 1992).
>>> 
>>> The African National Congress (ANC) in South Africa was guided by two
>>> Communist Jews, Albie Sachs, "one of its foremost intellectuals"( London
>>> Sunday Times, Aug. 29, 1993) and Yossel Mashel Slovo (Joe Slovo).
>>> 
>>> Slovo was born in a shtetl in Lithuania and grew up speaking Yiddish and
>>> studying the Talmud. He joined the ANC's terrorist wing, the Umkhonto we
>>> Sizwe, in 1961 and eventually became its commander. He was named Secretary
>>> General of the South African Communist Party in 1986. ("Joe Slovo," Jewish
>>> Chronicle, Jan. 13, 1995).
>>> 
>>> Slovo had been the " planner of many of the ANC terrorist attacks,
>>> including the 1983 car bomb that killed 19 people and injured many
>>> others... Slovo, who had traveled to the Soviet Union many times, was
>>> awarded a Soviet medal on his 60th birthday...Slovo is a dedicated
>>> Communist, a Marxist Leninist without morality of any kind, for whom only
>>> victory counts, whatever the human cost, whatever the bloodshed...Slovo
>>> disputes little of his image as 'the Communist mastermind' behind the ANC's
>>> armed struggle. For him the fears of South Africa's whites are both a
>>> measure of the ANC's growing strength and a crucial factor in hastening
>>> what he believes will be its ultimate victory. 'Revolutionary violence has
>>> created the inspirational impact that we had intended, and it has won for
>>> the ANC its leading position,' Slovo said." ("Rebel Strategist Seeks to End
>>> Apartheid," L.A. Times, Aug. 16, 1987, p. 14). When Nelson Mandela's ANC
>>> took over South Africa, Slovo was named Minister of Housing.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Slovo, a Yiddish-speaking Lithuanian Jew, was Secretary General of the
>>> South African Communist Party and director of the military wing of the ANC,
>>> which perpetrated numerous terror bombings against white civilians.
>>> 
>>> Ambassador David Rowl and Franches wrote about his experiences in
>>> Russia at that tragic time in RUSSIA FROM THE AMERICAN EMBASSY,
>>> Scribner, 1921. He declared
>>> 
>>>      "...The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews, and 90% of
>>>      whom are returned exiles, are little for Russia or any other
>>>      country but are internationalists, and they are trying to start a
>>>      world-wide social revolution."
>>> 
>>> From the DIRECTORATE OF INTELLIGENCE, THE BRITISH WAR
>>> CABINET, (CAB 214/83,July 3, 1916) Came the report:
>>> 
>>>      "Definite evidence has been received that the leaders in the
>>>      Bolshevik movement in England, France, and America are in touch
>>>      with one another and with Moscow, and that the Bolshevik movement
>>>      is an INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY OF JEWS."
>>> 
>>> One could add, a financial-banking conspiracy with most of the money for
>>> the Russian Revolution coming from New York Jewish Bankers.
>>> 
>>> THE AMERICAN HEBREW, September 10, 1920:
>>> 
>>>      "The Bolshevist Revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish
>>>      brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal
>>>      is to create a New Order in the world. [a New World Order - sound
>>>      familiar??] What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia,
>>>      thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>      and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish
>>>      mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world."
>>> 
>>> DR. OSCAR LEVY in his Preface to THE WORLD SIGNIFICANCE
>>> OF THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION by George Pitt-Rivers (1920):
>>> 
>>>      "Bolshevism is a religion and a faith. How could those
>>>      half-converted believers dream to vanquish the "Truthful" and the
>>>      faithful of their own creed ... who had gathered around the Red
>>>      Standard of the prophet Karl Marx, and who fought under the
>>>      guidance of those experienced officers of all latter - day
>>>      revolutions - the Jews?"
>>> 
>>> GEORGE MARLEN, in STALIN, TROTSKY, OR LENIN, on page
>>> 414 New York (1937):
>>> 
>>>      "If the tide of history does not turn toward Communist
>>>      Internationalism, then the Jewish race is doomed"
>>> 
>>> THE LONDON JEWISH CHRONICLE, 4-4-1921:
>>> 
>>>      "...there is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact
>>>      that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of
>>>      Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of
>>>      Judaism."
>>> 
>>> CHICAGO JEWISH SENTINEL, 10-8-1942:
>>> 
>>>      "The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the
>>>      fundamentals of Judaism."
>>> 
>>> Elizabeth Dilling in her excellent book THE JEWISH RELIGION:
>>> ITS INFLUENCE TODAY writes:
>>> 
>>>      "Only through (a) thorough understanding of the ideology from
>>>      which this collectivism originates, and those who dominate and
>>>      propagate it, can the rest of the world hope to escape the same
>>>      fate. Communism Socialism was originated by Jews and has been
>>>      dominated by them from the beginning .... There is no moral,
>>>      philosophical or ethical conflict whatsoever between Judaism and
>>>      Marxist collectivism as they exist in actual practice. Marxism,
>>>      to which all branches of Socialism necessarily adhere, was
>>>      originated by a Jew, Karl Marx, himself of Rabbinical descent.
>>>      Every Jewish source today boasts of his rabbinical ancestry, and
>>>      his "keen dialectical ability" (as presumably manifested by his
>>>      abstruse, hair-splitting, DESKAPITAL) being due to his Talmudic
>>>      inheritance .... Marx did not actually originate anything, but
>>>      merely "streamlined" talmudism for Gentile consumption..."
>>> 
>>> Dr.OscarLevy in his Preface (mentioned above) also wrote:
>>> 
>>>      "We Jews, who have posed as the Saviors of the World (God's
>>>      Chosen People - what a lie!) we today are nothing else but the
>>>      world's seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its
>>>      executioners."
>>> 
>>>  Bernard Lazare, in his "L'Anti-semitisme" p.350 wrote:
>>> 
>>>      "The jew is not satisfied with de-Christianizing, he Judaizes. He
>>>      destroys ... faith, he provokes indifference, but he imposes his
>>>      idea of the world, of morals, and of life upon those whose faith
>>>      he ruins; he works his age-old task, the annihilation of the
>>>      religion of (Jesus) Christ."
>>> 
>>> "There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
>>> Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by
>>> these international and for the most part atheistical Jews."
>>> On Feb. 8, 1920  the Illustrated Sunday Herald: by Winston Churchill.
>>> 
>>> "In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more
>>> astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed, the principal, part in the
>>> system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating
>>> Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by
>>> Jewesses.
>>> 
>>> "The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of
>>> terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been
>>> presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has
>>> been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.
>>> 
>>> "...The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of
>>> worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has
>>> tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with villainies
>>> which are now being perpetrated...Needless to say, the most intense
>>> passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian
>>> people."
>>> 
>>> "It was Communism which toppled the hated Czars, Communism which
>>> removed Jewish disabilities and proscribed anti-Semitism and Communism
>>> which, in its early days at least, opened the doors to Jewish advancement."
>>> Chaim Bermant, writing in the Jewish Chronicle (Aug. 30, 1991)
>>> 
>>>  "The clever Russian is almost always a Jew or has Jewish blood in him."
>>>  (Dmitri Volkogonov, Lenin: A New Biography, p.112).
>>> 
>>> Lenin declared, "We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class." His
>>> partner in crime, Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) stated: "The interests of the
>>> revolution require the physical annihilation of the bourgeoisie class." Who
>>> were these bourgeoisie? Certainly not Jews. Trotsky gave a clue to their
>>> identity in a 1937 interview in the New York Jewish newspaper, Daily
>>> Forward: "The longer the rotten bourgeoisie society lives, the more and
>>> more barbaric will anti-Semitism become everywhere."
>>> 
>>> Bourgeoisie was a Bolshevik code-word for Gentile. The first law passed
>>> after the Communists seized power in Russia made anti-semitism a crime
>>> punishable by death. (Izvestia, July 27, 1918).
>>> 
>>> The top Communist Jewish official Zinoviev stated: "Without mercy, without
>>> sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds. Let them be
>>> thousands; let them drown themselves in their own blood. For the blood of
>>> Lenin and Uritzky, Zinoviev and V_lodarsky, let there be floods of the
>>> blood of the bourgeoisie--more blood! As much as possible!"
>>> (Krasnaya Gazeta, Sept. 1, 1918).
>>> 
>>> Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's biographer recounts what it was like to grow up as
>>> a Russian Christian child among the children of the Jewish communist elite:
>>> "By the age of ten he had the cross ripped from his neck by jeering
>>> Pioneers and for over a year was held up to ridicule... Solzhenitsyn was,
>>> as a boy, exposed to students whose parents had an officially superior
>>> status. Most of the members of the Young Pioneers and Komsomol movements,
>>> at least in Rostov, were Jewish children..."
>>> (Michael Scammell, Solzhenitsyn: A Biography, p. 64).
>>> 
>>> Here is the most genocidal political movement in world history, which
>>> created the largest concentration camps and the most horrendous slave labor
>>> system of the 20th century, in which millions of Christians were
>>> slaughtered (on the size of the Gulag concentration camp system cf. C.
>>> Andrew and O. Gordievsky, KGB: The Inside Story and N.Y. Times, Oct. 22,
>>> 1990, p. 82. None of these camps are being preserved for posterity. Most
>>> were destroyed long ago by special military brigades; cf. Michael Specter,
>>> "Cold Reminder," N.Y. Times, Dec. 3, 1994).
>>> 
>>> "Israelis and American Jews fully agree that the memory of the Holocaust is
>>> an indispensable weapon--one that must be used relentlessly against their
>>> common enemy...Jewish organizations and individuals thus labor continuously
>>> to remind the world of it. In America, the perpetuation of the Holocaust
>>> memory is now a $100-million-a-year enterprise, part of which is
>>> government-funded."
>>> 
>>> the Israeli author Moshe Leshem:( Balaam's Curse, p. 228)
>>> 
>>> In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist
>>> party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total
>>> population (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>>> 
>>> "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>> characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme
>>> form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>> cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>> penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).



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On Wed, 01 Oct 1997 15:56:19 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:

>One MUST question the aspects of the HOLOHOAX, since many governments
>may be gullible enough to pay for non-existent JEWS, or even for JEWS
>who were in the German military!!!
One MUST question the aspects of the HOLOHOAX, since many governments
may be gullible enough to pay for non-existent JEWS, or even for JEWS
who were in the German military!!!

Every normal person should consider the entire contents, and decide
for
themselves, whether any JEWS died in WWII.




someone@somewhere.com wrote:
 
> On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene
> Holman) wrote: 
> >Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims 
> >made here.



> >1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
> >DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?

> >        None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
> >individual "survivors", and no "survivor" claims actually to have
> >witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No 
> >mounds of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing 
> >the job, no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no 
> >records, no demographic statistics.

> >        On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
> >forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
> >comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
> >figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.

> Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
> half of the original 600,000 JEWS in Germany were in the German
> military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
> extort money from gullible governments!!!
 
> >        2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
> >RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
> >WORLD WAR TWO?
 
> >        Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
> >interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German 
> >war effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of 
> >their race or national origin alone.
 
> >        3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
> >CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
 
> >        Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
> >their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
> >Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist 
> >subversion during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were 
> >highly overrepresented in government, commercial, and media 
> >positions.

> >However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger 
> >of internment once the war broke out.

> >        On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
> >Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply 
> >because the German government had removed Jews from influential 
> >positions and transferred power back to the German people. The 
> >boycott order and the Jewish war against Germany were reported in 
> >the world print and broadcast media of the time. False stories of 
> >German "death camps" were in fact circulated even before the outbreak 
> >of World War Two. Therefore the German view of the Jewish people 
> >as enemy aliens would seem to have been fully justified.
 
> >        4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
> >DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
 
> >        Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
> >gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
 
> >        5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS 
> >IT WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT 
> >WAS?

> >        Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
> >murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
> >were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
> >chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official 
> >Holocaust lore because it became too difficult to maintain in 
> >the face of known fact and because Dachau was in the Allied 
> >occupation zone where access to the camp was too 
> >easy and unrestricted.
 
> >        En passant, the brief lifespan of the "Dachau death camp"
> >version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning 
> >of the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
> >noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
> >official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
> >Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum.
 
> >        6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF 
> >THAT GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED 
> >AT AUSCHWITZ?
 
> >        No. The "gas chamber" exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz 
> >could not possibly have been used to carry out executions; 
> >it is far too small and it is not even airtight. 
> >In the 1980s, American expert Fred Leuchter, who builds gas chambers 
> >for American penal systems, took scrapings from the walls 
> >of the Auschwitz "gas chamber" for chemical
> >analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit 
> >is a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.
 
> Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
> 1949, long after the war???

> >        7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN'T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE 
> >PURPOSE?
 
> >        It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
> >(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in 
> >the same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
> >correctional systems throughout the United States today.
 
> >        8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
 
> >        Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of 
> >hydrocyanic gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, 
> >including the fumigation of lice-infested clothing, 
> >the purpose for which it was applied at Auschwitz. 
> >Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
> >commonly used and available today.
 
> >        9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
> >COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
 
> >        Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
> >brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
> >figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
> >read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
> >Hoess' blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
> >cross examined.
 
> >        10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA 
> >FUMIGATED WITH ZYKLON-B?
 
> >        About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
> >and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
> >only are employed.
 
> >        11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
> >ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
> >THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
 
> >        It can't be explained, because it could not have happened 
> >like that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered 
> >the same fate as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
 
> >        12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
> >CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
> >BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN'T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
 
> >        Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the 
> >six million figure as well.
 
> >        13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT 
> >SECRET FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE 
> >POPE, THE VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND 
> >ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE NOT KNOW?
 
> >        Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
> >British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
> >been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
> >were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a 
> >potentially powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any 
> >contemporary evidence at all during the war that such an event was 
> >occurring.

> >        14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
> >DURING THE WAR?
 
> >        About 300,000.
 
> >        15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
 
> >        Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
> >Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably 
> >appears whenever people are jammed together for long periods 
> >without bathing.It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. 
> >Ironically, if the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant 
> >purposes, more Jews  might have survived the concentration camps. 
> >Jewish prisoners (as well as many others) also died from starvation 
> >and lack of medical attention towards the end of the war 
> >when virtually all rail and road transport had come to a standstill 
> >due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
 
> >        16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 
> >300,000 DIED?

> >        5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
> >deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
> >exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
> >was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
> >identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
> >of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
> >the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a "Holocaust".
 
> >        17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE "DEATH CAMPS" SAY THEY SAW
> >BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD 
> >HAVE BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
 
> >        A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
> >afforded to waste during the Second World War, that's for sure.
 
> >        18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
 
> >        No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed 
> >by flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated 
> >in open pits.
> >[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
> >observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
> >American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely 
> >to destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in 
> >any other way in open pits. The Holocaust "experts" who claim 
> >otherwise are either parroting what they have been told without 
> >bothering to check their facts, or else they are lying.]

> >        19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
> >BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A 
> >BODY ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
 
> >        About two hours.
 
> >        20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
 
> >        To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead 
> >from typhus and other diseases.
 
> >        21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN 
> >ALL THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE 
> >MAXIMUM NUMBER OF CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO 
> >INCINERATE DURING THE ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
 
> >        About 430,600.
 
> >        22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
 
> >        No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
> >per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
> >when in heavy operation.
 
> >        23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
> >CORPSE?
 
> >        After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
> >time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
 
> >        24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
> >HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
 
> >        That remains to be "explained". Six million bodies would
> >produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have 
> >been no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz 
> >area or anywhere else in Europe.
 
> >        25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE 
> >AIR, SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
 
> >        No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the 
> >immense amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the 
> >camp, nor do they show any evidence of the alleged open 
> >pits where the bodies were burned.
 
> >        26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT 
> >THE WHOLE "HOLOCAUST" ISSUE?
 
> >        A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
> >September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
> >packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
> >full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second 
> >World War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or 
> >any of the wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust.
 
> >        Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war's end, the
> >liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of 
> >articles claiming that the Red Cross was "full of Nazi sympathizers". 
> >This charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated 
> >Jewish attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles 
> >steadily in the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
 
> >        27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
 
> >        Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
> >Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
> >conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
> >literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
> >diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
> >adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from 
> >the published text.
>
> >        In 1950 Anne Frank's father sued author Meyer Levin, the 
> >actual writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. 
> >A Jewish judge in New York ordered the records of the court case 
> >sealed for 100 years.
> >When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
> >noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were 
> >interpolations written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, 
> >a writing instrument which was not invented until 1950. The original 
> >diary was swiftly removed from exhibit and whisked away 
> >into a safety deposit box inIsrael. It has never been produced for 
> >examination since then despite repeated attempts by scholars to view 
> >it.
 
> >        28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
> >ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED 
> >CORPSES AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
 
> >        Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
> >Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
> >Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a "Nazi SS
> >man" about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
> >of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
> >historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
> >the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine.
 
> >        (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
> >atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
> >remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
> >the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
> >laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
> >be perpetrated by Holocaust "experts" is not surprising in view of 
> >the fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme 
> >left-wing views and are as quick to apologize for and explain 
> >away Stalin's butcheries as they are to invent fraudulent crimes 
> >attributed to Adolf Hitler. The almost universally leftist 
> >political and social orientation of
> >Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind 
> >when examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
> >important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
> >the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken 
> >McVay's refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General 
> >Secretary Smith asked him why he did not condemn the 
> >mass murders of Stalin.)
 
> >        29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
> >SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
 
> >        Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
> >predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would 
> >certainlyhave been in a position to learn about it. Since no such 
> >plan existed,the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
 
> >        30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
> >EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
 
> >        None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
> >deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come 
> >tolight. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
> >Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering  
> >the extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis 
> >were meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were 
> >seized by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied 
> >archivists and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them 
> >all. Nothing. Zip. Nada.

> >        31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
> >DURING THE WAR?
 
> >        Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
> >from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
> >they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
> >official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
> >British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
> >Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
> >industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that 
> >Eichmann was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered 
> >in order to silence him.
 

> In Canada there was a detailed story in Toronto Life magazine about the 
> roles  of the Reichman and Gestetner families in providing assistance 
> to the Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public 
> exposure,and have tried to restrict distribution of this news, 
> which is available from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
 


> >        32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED 
> >BY THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
 
> >        Slightly less than four million.
 
> >        33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE 
> >THE NAZIS?
 
> >        Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
> >kill them.
 
> >        34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN'T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
> >HAPPENED TO THEM?
 
> >        After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
> >States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 
> >300,000, they are all accounted for.
 
> >        35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
> >TODAY?

> >        It shields them from any criticism over their political,
> >economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
> >sums of "guilt money", especially from the German government. It
> >justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
> >dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
> >billion dollars in assorted "Holocaust reparations" and the ante is
> >growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
> >Jewish people to keep the scam going.
 
> >        36. ARE FILMS LIKE "HOLOCAUST", "SCHINDLER'S LIST", AND "THE
> >WINDS OF WAR" DOCUMENTARIES?
 
> >        Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
> >They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, 
> >not real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals 
> >of events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
> >screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where 
> >Jews are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and 
> >the creative and financial sectors of film making.
 
> >        Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
> >that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
> >begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, 
> >the character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in 
> >Spielberg's production of "Schindler's List" was sanitized to the 
> >point of being unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost 
> >saintly,  and yet none of those still living who remember 
> >the man have a single good word to say about him. The real Schindler 
> >was a confidence artist, a thief, a libertine and degenerate gambler 
> >who indulged freely in forced sexual relations with young 
> >female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
> >and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
> >money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
> >because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and 
> >events like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with 
> >the most bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
 
> >        37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE 
> >SOME ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
 
> >        Over 100, with more in the works.
 
> >        38. BUT AREN'T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
> >ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?

> >        Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
> >right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
> >freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
> >explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
> >unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
> >position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
> >genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
> >libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
> >subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
> >from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
 
> >        39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
> >VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?

> >        A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
> >always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
> >Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
> >called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
> >hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
> >express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
> >from many of the postings to Nizkor's Internet playgroups that they
> >have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
> >Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
> >ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
> >cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
 
> >        The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
> >hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
> >giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those 
> >who ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the 
> >Holocaust are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned.
 
> >        Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
> >him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
> >Revisionist bookseller's offices were burned, and in Toronto
> >Revisionist author Ernst Zundel's home was almost destroyed in an 
> >arson attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of 
> >show trials lasting over ten years, and after being finally acquitted 
> >he has been denied Canadian citizenship and is still battling 
> >attempts  to deport him to prison and torture in Germany.

> >        An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
> >kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
> >lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the "crime" of writing
> >pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
> >legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
> >abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
> >only after an international outcry. Schmidt's "crime" was writing a
> >pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
> >distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder 
> >has been imprisoned so many times he's lost count. Revisionists 
> >have been stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure 
> >in universities, victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs 
> >in the mail, and subjected to constant death threats 
> >from Jews and Marxists.

> >        THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent 
> >people who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by 
> >trying to kill, imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. 
> >More than anything else, the behavior of the Jews and the 
> >governments they influence so strongly proves that the 
> >Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
> >neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
> >silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people 
> >who believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults 
> >and torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the 
> >part of the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have 
> >imposed the most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of 
> >humanity, and have used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, 
> >steal another people's country, and then to slaughter that country's 
> >original inhabitants at will, as according to National Public Radio 
> >they are doing even now as I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
 
> >        40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
> >REVISIONISTS?
 
> >        No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than 
> >ever to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the 
> >earth understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded 
> >them, and robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust 
> >lie. There can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the
> >Holocaust will be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at 
> >large for what it is: a politically inspired hoax.
 
> >NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
> >pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
> >information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
> >ihrgreg@kaiwan.com - W.S.


 
One MUST question the validity of the EXTORTION on gullible
governments
by the damn JEWS for alleged compensation.



If half of the German JEWS were in the German military, as the
attached
article documents, why give them any money??
 
---------- Forwarded message ----------
 Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
 From: stefan lemieszewski 
 Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
 
 From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
 that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
 ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals.
One
 group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
 
 The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in
England
 titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
 appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would
like
 to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
 Stefan Lemieszewski
 

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
 North Shore News
 February 2, 1997
 
 Insights from abroad
 Doug Collins
 
 TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
 that is ignored in Canada.
 
 When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
 served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
 
 The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two
pages
 about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
 
 There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of
whom
 was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
 transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
 
 At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
 married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five
major
 generals, and 23 colonels.
 
 Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
 Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
 more. The research is continuing.
 
 Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied
France
 in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
 alive.
 
 Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
 father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
 
 Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
 whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
 
 A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked
in
 the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
 
 The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
 Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews
and
 he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long
investigation
 and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
 documents in the process.
 
 The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed
that
 Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew>
could 
 ever have fought for Hitler.
 
 A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
 the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
 
 He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
 about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
 ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
 
 Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may
be
 used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers
of
 Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
 what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
 
 British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into
an
 international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who
can
 produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of
the
 Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
 
 Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor
Helmut
 Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
 was a Jew.
 
 Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
 
 As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
 full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or
even
 one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
 
 But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
 Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was
Jewish.
 
 As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom
he
 knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced
to a
 term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
 
 A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
 
 After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and
obtained,
 the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox
Lubavitcher
 Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
 Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944
for
 plotting against Hitler.
 
 The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via
Latvia,
 and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a
Jew
 and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler
saw
 to it that he was discharged from the army.
 
 All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
 able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time
magazine. I
 wonder why?
 
 ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and
the
 right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published
in
 the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
 necessarily those of the newspaper itself.


>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!

sven88


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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:56:12 GMT, kengoy88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Wed, 29 Oct 1997 01:04:43 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:
>
>>The article has more than enough active website addresses, that you
>>should have been able to read more useful material.
>>
>>By the way, why not comment on your ideas relevant to the subject
>>heading.
>>
>>
>>On Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:56:12 +0000, philip de cadenet
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Roger,
>>>>In view of the constant reports by Interpol that the Russian JEW Mafia
>>>>is spreading its control around the world, combined with the strength of
>>>>the JEWS under communism, one wonders, is Russia now under the full
>>>>control of JEWS??
>>>>
>>>>Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org
>>>>
>>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>>>>From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
>>>>       
>>>>       One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian
>>>>Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
>>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>>>
>>>>       First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
>>>>Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 
>>>>
>>>>       While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
>>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>>Archives:         
>>>>         
>>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
>>>>         
>>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        
>>>>
>>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>>Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
>>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type." 
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were 384
>>>>`commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>>Government."         
>>>>
>>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>>Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
>>>>Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>>Moisei Uritsky. 
>>>>
>>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 
>>>>
>>>>The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>>"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things." 
>>>>
>>>>In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>>here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress: 
>>>>
>>>>"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>>Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest
>>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>>Gordon. 
>>>>
>>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>>often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>>all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>>were Jews. 
>>>>
>>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>>did not take kindly to it." 
>>>>
>>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>>"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
>>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>>>
>>>>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
>>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 
>>>>
>>>>"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>>4, 1919) 
>>>>       
>>>>"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>>>
>>>>"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>>the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 
>>>>
>>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>>so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>>himself:
>>>>
>>>>"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>>cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>>penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>>>
>>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>>virtually untouched.
>>>>
>>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
>>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>>American professor of Russian history. . . "  
>>>>
>>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>>Communist bosses.
>>>>  
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Roger Hughes
>>>>
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People 
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>                http://www.natall.com  
>>>>                http://www.natvan.com
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>     Roger's Page  http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/
>>>>      Keep It White Because You Know It's Right!
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed.
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>You posted a ficticious e-mail address thereby defeating the object of
>>>your final sentence above!
>>>One does have to wonder how much credence you expect us, the readers of
>>>this newgroup, to give someone who does not print their real e-mail
>>>address.
>>>Nuff said.
>>>
>>>Philip de Cadenet / UK



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On Mon, 09 Nov 1998 17:37:52 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:04:09 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:13:38 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:18:46 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>>>>>>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>>>>>>>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>>>>>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>>>>>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>>>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Nothing new here.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>>>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>>>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>>>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>>>>>>> answer??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>>>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>>>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>>>>>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>>>>>>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>>>>>>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>>>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>>>>>>> >               letters?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>>>>>Brith's butt.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>>>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>>>>>>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>>>>>Canadian dollars. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>>>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>>>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>>>>>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>>>>>>>letter just ask.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>>>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>>>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>>>>>>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>>>>>>>>>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>>>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>>>>>>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>>>>>>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  The League is working closely
>>>>>>>>>> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>>>>>>>> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>>>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>>>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>>>>>>>> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>>>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>>>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>>>>>>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That is putting it "lightly".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>>>>>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>>>>>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>>>>>>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>>>>>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with 'loan' grants or
>>>>>>>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>>>>>>>> >dramatizations.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>>>>>>>> >their way into White America's good nature and generousity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >NO MORE!  The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>>>>>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>>>>>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>nationalist@juno.com
>>>>>>>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>>>>>>>"http://www.natvan.com"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>>>>>Hillsboro, WV   24946
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>>>>>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                                ----Phillips Brooks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail! 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>sven88



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On Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:05:36 GMT, ipm@usaor.net (Ian McKinney) wrote:

>On Tue, 21 Jul 1998 14:15:03, "Hansjoerg Walther" 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Ian,
>> 
>> 
>> Ian McKinney  wrote in article
>> ...
>> > Nonsense, I believe this statement was in the article:
>> > 
>> > "...(T)here were 384 `commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15
>> > Chinamen, 22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 
>> > 264 had come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of 
>> > the Imperial Government." (Chief of Staff, Captian Montgomery 
>> > Schuyler, telegram dated June 9, 1919, Vladivostok, reports on the 
>> > make-up of the presiding Soviet government). 
>> > 
>> > Let's see, 300 out of 384 commisars, that's 78%. Pretty amazing 
>> > considering that Jews were only about 2% of the population!
>> 
>> That the assertion is complete bunkum and that this might be related to the
>> fact that this guy was in Vladivostok ("vostok" means "East" in Russian,
>> and Vladivostok is as far East as is possible) is too difficult for you to
>> understand? He would be a more reliable source for what happened in Tokyo
>> than for what was going on in Petrograd or Moscow.
>
>If you read all the telegrams I quoted in the original article, 
>there's one NOT from Vladivostok: 
>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul 
>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet 
>government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
>
>Now, is that close enough to the action?
>
>
> 
>> Just to check this: he seems to be completely unaware that e. g. Georgians
>> (e. g. Stalin, Ordzhonikidze) and Latvians (e. g. Peters, Latsis) were
>> overrepresented in the higher ranks of the Bolshevik party. 
>
>Define "over-represented?"
>
>
>
>
>> He has also
>> missed Poles like Feliks Dzherzinskii, head of the Cheka. You would be hard
>> pressed to name us the 2 negroes or 15 Chinamen or the 22 Armenians. Then
>> tell us who the 264 were who came from America? Of the higher ranks only
>> Trotsky and Bukharin (who was Russian) had been in the US, most others were
>> either in Russia or in different European countries (France, England,
>> Switzerland).
>
>Prove that.
>
>
>> And so on: here are MORE than the alleged 13 Russians in
>> higher positions: Lenin, Bukharin, Kirov, Rykov, Shliapnikov, Molotov,
>> Zalutskii, Larin, Sokolnikov, Podvoiskii, Petrovskii, Nogin, Lunarcharskii,
>> Miliutin, Skvortsov, Oppokov, Avilov, Teodorovich, Ovseenko, Krylenko,
>> Dybenko (although the last three might be Ukrainian names).
>
>A list of names doesn'y impress me. Who identified these people as 
>being part of anything? Besides, you're so loose with your answers. I 
>specifically cited the "Leaders of the Prolotariate" as define by 
>Trotsky and the majority were Jews. I have now produced again two 
>telegrams, one from the Chief of Staff of the US Expeditionary Forces 
>and one from the Counsel General in Moscow who both state clearly that
>Jews made up 78% of the commisars and were very prominant in the 
>Soviet government. Those are two specific claims which you have 
>utterly failed to refute. The best you can do is list a bunch of 
>Russian-sounding gentile names as if that alone disproves all the 
>documentation from dozens of sources I cited. Big deal!
>
> 
>> What more is this than a report by someone who was thousands of miles away
>> from the action, and was obviously completely uninformed (if he is not
>> speaking about some local situation without any relevance to the
>> revolution).
>
>I just gave you one from the Counsel General who was in "the action."
>
>  
>> > Now you can quibble over what defines "the leadership", but I 
>> > just gave you two examples. First, I gave you the small handful that 
>> > Trotsky identified and most of them were obviously Jews. And now I 
>> > have reintroduced a telegram which indicates that 78% of the Bolshevik
>> > commisars were Jews. I'd say that covers it pretty well.
>> 
>> Yeah, it is somewhere between half a dozen and 300 hundred, whatever serves
>> your argument better at any given moment. In the first case, Trotsky seems
>> to be unaware that *STALIN* was part of the leadership, or Dzherzinskii, or
>> people like Bukharin, someone who helped Stalin to oust Trotsky.
>
>At that time Stalin was a relative unknown. Again, we're talking about
>early the Bolsheviks. You keep jumping around from 1917 to 1945 like 
>it means nothing.
>
>> Amazing.
>> Perhaps this is simply a photograph showing A PART of the leadership and
>> not the complete leadership. How could Trotsky forget Stalin in a book on
>> Stalin? At least explain this strange contradiction.
>
>Stalin wasn't one of the top Bolshevik leaders in the teens. Duh!
>
>> No need for that. You're plainly wrong. That applies to your evasions about
>> Rosa Luxemburg (who was OPPOSED to Lenin) or the Mensheviks (who were
>> OPPOSED to the Bolsheviks), etc. How about the Socialists-Revolutionaries
>> (especially the Left SR) who supported the Bolsheviks? Or the Anarchists
>> like Makhno? Too few Jews to be interesting?
>
>I gave you a list of the different factions and their number of 
>delegates. 80% of the delegates were representing groups that had Jews
>in leadership positions. Their respective political posturing and 
>coalitions with one another are irrelavent to the discussion.
>
>Regards,
>Ian McKinney
>Western Imperative Network
>http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/
>----------------------------------------------------------
>The Incomparable Dr. Revilo Oliver
>http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/america
>National Vanguard Books
>http://www.natvan.com/



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On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 14:57:10 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Oct 1997 01:26:54 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
>Tavish) wrote:
>
>>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>and activating their  accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>up and kill Jews."
>>
>>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>>
>>"Individual revolutionary leaders and Sverdlov -- played a conspicuous
>>part in the revolution of November, 1917,  which enabled the
>>Bolshevists to take possession of the state apparatus" (Univ. Jew.
>>Encyd., Vol. IX, p.668). Here and there in the Universal Jewish
>>Encyclopedia other Jews are named as co-founders of Russian 
>>Communism, but not Lenin and Stalin. Both of these, however, 
>>are said by some writers to be half-Jewish. Whatever the racial
>>antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet commissariats were 
>>largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in the Communist
>>movement was well understood in Russia. "The White Armies which
>>opposed the Bolsehvik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks 
>>as common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>
>>The Ukrainians were part of the White Army (Gentile) that
>>opposed the Red Army (loyal to Jewish Commissariats).
>>



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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 01:01:49 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>
>>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>>question how many may have died in WWII!!!
>>
>>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!
>>
>>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>>involved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, vagabond@idirect.com (William
>>Markiewicz) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at.  See the
>>>Communication Page, August 97 issue 
>>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>>
>>sperati wrote:
>>> 
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>> 
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> 
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>> 
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>> 
>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>> 
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>> 
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>> 
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>> 
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>> 
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>> 
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>> 
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>> 
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>> 
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>> 
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>> 
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>> 
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>> 
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>> 
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>> 
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>> 
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>> 
>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>
>>
>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!



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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:57:37 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:02 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:05:23, watcher2  wrote:
>>
>>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>>By Sean Maguire
>>>Sept. 14, 1998
>>
>>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz. 
>>
>>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>>>sensitive site. 
>>
>>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>>>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>>>groups. 
>>
>>>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests and must be resolved as
>>>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are beginning to be perceived
>>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' she added. 
>>
>>>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>>>site inevitable. 
>>
>>>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 
>>
>>>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>>>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site. 
>>
>>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex. 
>>
>>>Poland's center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>>>human ashes at Birkenau. 
>>
>>>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar. 
>>
>>>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>>and nationalists. 
>>
>>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>>>forgotten. 
>>
>>>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>>>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>>>be removed. 
>>>
>>>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated. 
>>>
>>>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the answer but the cross, all
>>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>>>the-scene discussion.'' 
>>>
>>>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>>>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, ``But I don't see any
>>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>>>the moment.'' 
>>
>>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 
>>
>>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>>>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>>>and the Jewish diaspora. 
>>
>>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>>>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>>>international funding, are on hold. 
>>
>>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently. 
>>
>>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign. 
>>
>>>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about preserving barbed wire,
>>>concrete, the crematories.'' 
>>
>>>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>>>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda. 
>>
>>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>>>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>>>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' wiping out most of
>>>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 
>>
>>>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>>>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>>>Magdziak-Miszewska. 
>>
>>>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 
>>
>>>``We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>>>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland's tiny
>>>Jewish community.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>



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On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 23:01:23 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control...
>
>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is...
>
>>>cheers,          PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>maddison@power.connexus.net.au (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>
>>Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from,
>>Harold.
>>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. :-) 
>>
>>Here is another angle on my 'yike'.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the 'nice little earner'
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia.  They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political 'pincer movement' entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>Ummm... Was it "The Jews" (tm) that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>
>>Some voices among 'the Jews' have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review.  The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all.  A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.
>>
>>>Why blame "The Jews" for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>
>>Consider my approach a 'media technique'.  One I
>>highly  disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of.  (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, 'the end justifies the
>>means'.)
>>
>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I'd say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,
>>
>>They haven't.
>>
>>> or someone may have posted it to the 'Net.
>>
>>Here of course mostly 'anything goes'.  That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>
>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn't
>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>
>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose.  Quite stupid are they not!  :-)  I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?  
>>
>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>
>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please.  (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.) 
>>
>>>David Maddison
>>
>>Hope that helps.  :-)
>>
>>Now, here is another aspect of my 'yike'.
>>
>>The arrogance displayed by Australia's now
>>prolific 'ursurper classes' knows no bounds.
>>
>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>
>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>'politically correct screeching brigade' has long
>>intimidated our good, polite,  well meaning and
>>well mannered 'Australian cultured' citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review's stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of  their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency's 'game' just might be about to be
>>up!  Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>
>>Harold.



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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 01:47:04 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:26:58 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:06:50 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:
>>
>>>And don't forget the roles of the cursed Christkillers - the damned
>>>JEWS - in the spread of Communism, and their involvement in the murder
>>>of more than 100 millions in this century!!!
>>>
>>>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>>>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>>and activating their  accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>>up and kill Jews."
>>>
>>>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>>>
>>>"Individual revolutionary leaders and Sverdlov -- played a conspicuous
>>>part in the revolution of November, 1917,  which enabled the
>>>Bolshevists to take possession of the state apparatus" (Univ. Jew.
>>>Encyd., Vol. IX, p.668). Here and there in the Universal Jewish
>>>Encyclopedia other Jews are named as co-founders of Russian 
>>>Communism, but not Lenin and Stalin. Both of these, however, 
>>>are said by some writers to be half-Jewish. Whatever the racial
>>>antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet commissariats were 
>>>largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in the Communist
>>>movement was well understood in Russia. "The White Armies which
>>>opposed the Bolsehvik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks 
>>>as common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>>
>>>The Ukrainians were part of the White Army (Gentile) that
>>>opposed the Red Army (loyal to Jewish Commissariats).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sat, 20 Jun 1998 23:41:29 -0000, "ANAS  JZAYRLI"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Since the times of Moses the Jews were oppressors or usurers, all the talent
>>>>of Jews Is concentrated on predatory acts...They have a creed which blesses
>>>>their thieving and misdeeds, they are real liars and bloodhounds, who have
>>>>not only perverted and  alsified the entire Scriptures from beginning to end
>>>>and without ceasing with their interpretations.
>>>>And all of the anxious sighing, longing and hope of their hearts is directed
>>>>to the time when some day they would like to deal with us as they dealt with
>>>>the heathen in Persia  at the time of Esther... O how they love that Book of
>>>>Esther, which is so suitable to their bloodthirsty revengeful,  murderous
>>>>appetite and hopes ! The sun has never shown on such a bloodthirsty and
>>>>revengeful people, who fancy themselves to be the chosen  people so they can
>>>>murder and strangle the heathen. No people under the sun is more greedy than
>>>>they are than they have been and always will be, as one can see from their
>>>>accursed usury. They console themselves that when their Messiah comes, he
>>>>will collect all the gold and silver in the world and divide it amongst
>>>>them.
>>>>Since childhood they have devoured such poisonous hatred against the Goyim
>>>>from  their parents and rabbis, and still devour such without ceasing, that
>>>>flesh and blood, bone and marrow, and has become their life and being. And
>>>>as little as they can alter flesh and blood, bone and marrow, so little can
>>>>they change such pride and envy, they just have to stay that way and be
>>>>ruined, if God does not perform a special miracle.
>>>>
>>>>"The Jews are locusts or caterpillars which are devouring France." Sayings
>>>>often repeated by Napoleon Bonaparte, quoted in Cherep-Spiridovich's
>>>>THE SECRET WORLD GOVERNMENT, page 87.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>



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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:46:32 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Sat, 04 Apr 1998 15:50:56 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:

It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

>>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>>wrote:
>>Feel free to forward your complaints also to Revenue Canada, either by
>>phone or E-mail.
>>
>>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>>an interview a week ago in local papers,  refuses to answer the
>>questions.
>>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>
>>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>>
>>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>>
>>Perhaps some of the others in North America interested in discussing
>>the Holohoax will also respond.
>>
>>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>
>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>
>>>>>Nothing new here.
>>
>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>
>>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>
>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!
>>
>>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
>>	Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>>
>>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
>>	http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>>
>>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is 
>>Special Investigations Revenue Canada at:
>>	telephone # 204-983-1829
>>
>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>>>>> 
>>
>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>> answer??
>>
>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>
>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>
>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>
>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>
>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>
>>
>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca, or
>>>>>	 http://www.rc.gc.ca
>>
>>	 In Message, put first line of message as: 
>>	ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>             or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>>
>>	They are waiting for your complaints
>>
>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>>
>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>>>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>
>>>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>
>>>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>
>>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>
>>>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>> >               letters?
>>
>>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>
>>>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>
>>>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>
>>>>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>>Brith's butt.
>>
>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>
>>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>
>>>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>
>>>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>
>>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>
>>>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>>
>>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>>Canadian dollars. 
>>
>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>
>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>> >OyVey???
>>
>>>>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>>
>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>
>>>> >Check this out!
>>
>>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>>>>letter just ask.
>>
>>
>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>>>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>>
>>>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>>
>>>>>  The League is working closely
>>>> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office."
>>
>>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>
>>
>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>>
>>>>>That is putting it "lightly".
>>
>>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>>>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>
>>>>>nationalist@juno.com
>>>>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>>>>"http://www.natvan.com"
>>
>>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>>Hillsboro, WV   24946
>>
>>>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail! 
>>
>>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>>>>ADVlist@ListServe.com which contains the 
>>>>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>>>>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com 
>>
>>
>>>>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>>>Canada!!!
>>
>>>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>>
>>>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>>
>>
>>>>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>>>>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return.... and see if it comes
>>>>from anthing called "Nizkor," or claims that it would... won't that be
>>>>fun, Bill? If you don't get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>>>>you've got me, eh?
>>
>>>>Please print this form and send to: 
>>>>The Nizkor Project 
>>>>c/o 
>>>>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>>>>xxxxxx Street 
>>>>Toronto, Ontario  
>>
>>>>Name:________________________________________ 
>>>>Street Address:________________________________________________ 
>>>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
>>>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
>>>>Amount Enclosed: $___________ 
>>
>>>>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
>>>>B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the
>>>>cheque's memo section. 
>>
>>
>>>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>>>[#0235903-43-13] 
>>
>>



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On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:32 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:24:52 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:
>>On 21 Apr 1998 14:33:08 GMT, "jjjjjjjjjj"  wrote:

>>>It is a well known fact that at the beginning there were many jewish groups
>>>that supported the rise of the Nazis in Germany. 
>>
>>In fact, many JEWS became senior officers in the German Military!!!

>>>This was because the
>>>Rabbinical authorities were afraid of Jews who were marrying with Germans 
>>>and thus diluting the 'purity' of the Jewish race. This is a fact that has
>>>hardly been touched upon by most Jewish sympathisers and contemporary
>>>historians,with the exception of a handful of Jewish intellectuals like
>>>Noam Chomsky and Israel Shahak.
>>>The sad fact is that Zionism shares much more in common with Nazism than
>>>most people think: 
>>>Both Zionists and Nazis believe in the theory of racial/communal supremacy
>>>Both are believers in racial/communal exclusivism
>>>Both are exclusive ideologies that are intolerant of Others 
>>>Both are prepared to use violence to achieve their goals and both are
>>>prepared to justify that use of violence
>>>Both ideologies ultimately cater to the needs of their own specific and
>>>exclusive constituencies- thus what happens to others is of little interest
>>>to them.
>
>From doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>
>
>Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
>
>http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0
>
>On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote:
>
>>> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>
>http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>
>This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>he was a specialist in aerial photography--
>
>>>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>
>You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>book The War Against The Jews.
>
>Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>
>* April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>* ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>deportations."]
>
>			____________________________
>
>Or how about this?
>
>                                       Hitler's Jewish Army
>
>"Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim." --Elie Wiesel
>speaking of World War Two.
>
>"If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>
>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>knowledge and approval.
>
>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."
>
>[ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>
>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.
>
>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>
>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>
>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>Aryan.''
>
>Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>
>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>whose father was a Jew.
>
>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
>
>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>
>Sources:
>
>William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>
>Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>
>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>
>Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>
>		----------------------------------
>
>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html
>
>Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company 
>
>Thursday, April 3, 1997 
>
>Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces 
>
>by Reuters 
>
>BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
>
>See also:
>
>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>
>Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company 
>
>Dec. 26, 1996 
>
>An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>served in Nazi army 
>
>by William D. Montalbano
>Los Angeles Times 
>
>LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>of Holocaust history. 
>
>Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews. 
>
>"Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>whole story.]
>
> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html 
>sven88




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On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 13:45:25 -0600, John Walker
 wrote:

>(See reply below)
>
>sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:49:08 -0700, Milton Wong 
>> wrote:
>>
>> >The Jews are universally disliked. They are hated by people of all
>> >non-Jewish nationalities, races and religions. Why is this so?
>> >
>> >A Jew is defined as a person with Jewish ancestry or Jewish faith. An
>> >ethnic Jew who is a follower of a non-Jewish religion is still a Jew.
>> >
>> >The Jews' physical characteristics, including enormous noses and other
>> >repulsive facial features, curly hair, and ape-like body hair, are
>> >naturally repulsive to non-Jews. However, this is not the primary reason
>> >why Jews are disliked.
>> >
>> >In my experience, the Jews are in general lying, cheating, slandering,
>> >and dishonest. They lack moral integrity, and are probably unable to
>> >distinguish right from wrong. They are greedy (for money and for power)
>> >and selfish by nature. A piece of advice: never buy a used car from a
>> >Jew or Jewish-owned company!
>> >
>> >Jews will do anything to hurt and destroy anyone who dares to disagree
>> >with them.
>> >
>> >The Jews are stealing $3 billion/year from US taxpayers, and sending it
>> >to Israel as foreign aid. Israel neither needs nor deserves any foreign
>> >aid.
>> >
>> >The Jews control the US media and government. This is why US media are
>> >more biased in favor of Israel than media anywhere else in the world
>> >(except Israel, of course). This is also why the US, as the only country
>> >of any significance in the world, continues to support Israel. Whenever
>> >the Israeli Jews torture and kill innocent Palestinians, the rest of the
>> >world rightly condemns Israel. The United States however always refuses
>> >to condemn any wrongdoing by Israel. This is of course not surprising at
>> >all. The US government is dominated by and controlled by Jews. The US
>> >congress is controlled by the Jewish pro-Israeli lobby. This is why $3
>> >billion/year of US taxpayers' money continues to be sent to Israel as
>> >foreign aid.
>> >
>> >The Jews invented communism, which is responsible for the murders of
>> >more innocent people than any other political movement. Many leading
>> >communists were/are Jews. Not surprisingly, anti-Jewish feelings are
>> >strong in Eastern Europe and Russia.
>> >
>> >The Jews stole the Palestinians' homeland. The way the Jews treat the
>> >Palestinians is remarkably similar to how the Nazis allegedly treated
>> >the Jews.
>> >
>> >In my opinion, the Jews have provoked the "anti-semitism" they are
>> >always complaining about.
>
>==== Reply: ===========
>Jewish Leadership
>------------------
>There is an old saying in the world of salesmanship: "Once you have made the
>sale, shut up!."
>This is what I see to be a major reason for the growing "anti-Semitic"
>provocation mentioned above.
>The result  is a backlash against a tired old formula which is starting to
>lose it's effectiveness. The Jewish problem is that they can't "shut up".
>
>Everywhere on the Internet we witness Jews promoting Jewish leadership.
>Anyone with the
>slightest argument against them is accused by Jews of hate. Those refusing to
>accept Jewish self promotion and  Jewish leadership  are placed in the unfair
>position of being  branded as  hate mongers. The real hate mongers, in this
>case, is the Jews.
>Intellectual honesty in these debates  is seldom condoned. Rather than an
>offering of counter facts,
>most often anti Jewish rebuttals are substituted with mere insults which
>almost always  include accusations of unfounded hatred against the Jews.
>
>While Christians, Muslims, and others are busy converting people to their
>religion, Jews are busy
>promoting people to their Jewish influence. Gaining success in this activity
>they are able to form a thought control machine wherein Jewish interests are
>to be paramount.  The  very powerful Jewish lobby in the United States of
>America is an example of that influence and leadership  which Jews now enjoy
>- and it is supported for through the USA gifting of around 3 billion dollars
>per year to Israel. Much of that money comes back to haunt us.
>
>Currently (981025), Jewish influence is testing their level of control by way
>of trying to get the Jewish American traitor and super spy, J. Pollard,
>released from prison even though Pollard remains a continuing threat to USA
>security.. But Israel itself  has betrayed her friendship with the United
>States by recruiting Pollard to spy for the Jewish state.  Through such acts,
>Israel was able to sell top secret technical information to countries which
>act against our security interests.  All of this amounts to even more reason
>why so much "anti-Semitism" is generated by the Jews themselves.
>
>A real friend would not do what Israel has been doing to the United States.
>Can any reasonable
>USA patriot citizen offer continued loyalty to that country - Israel - which
>has betrayed the US more than all others combined?
>
>The common pro-Jewish argument is that Jews have suffered throughout the ages
>and that they must
>gain world leadership as a matter of security.  The argument continues to be
>strained as we observe
>that, more and more, according to the Jews, only Jewish suffering is to have
>any real meaning.  Witness the Jewish Holocaust museums where none but the
>Jewish victims  are remembered for the carnage's of W.W.II. The over one
>hundred million victims of socialist states, since the communist revolution,
>don't even make it to most history books.
>
>I believe I have been objective and honest  in this reply. My message was
>more by way of observation than it was of accusation.  Still, I can expect
>extreme distortions from Jews all over,  Jews who I have not met, who will
>accuse me of hating them.  But, they want me to hate them because that
>alleged hate is what motivates Jews more than anything else to fight, ever
>more, for their selfish influence in the affairs of our daily lives.
>
>Jews are the only ones who will tell you that you hate them -
>and if  you disagree, they will argue with you until you do.
>
>== jw =====



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On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 20:49:09 GMT, sbjarnason@heimat.zhid.org wrote:

>On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 18:12:42 GMT, sbjarnason who prefers faggots
>wrote:
>
>Muslim nations seem to have more sense and respect for normal humans,
>than do the degenerate JEW run countries.
>
>The only good faggot is a cremated one, whether dead or otherwise!!!
>
>Immolate yourself, and then try to talk, if you can comprehend.
>
>
>On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 16:00:05 +0700, Bigger 
>wrote:
>
>>Who gives a shite about major religions now? They are expiring in a couple of years
>>and already smell.
>>
>>We got no time to make our way through 640 pages of crap. Check
>>http://www.virusmyth.com for the truth about HIV/AIDS! Provided that your English is
>>good enough to get beyond the front page.
>>
>>In the most advanced countries of the world: in Northern Europe, Northern America,
>>Australia and NZ homosexuality is largely tolerated and even homosexual marriages,
>>children adoption and many other issues are legalised.
>>
>>How much longer will M'sia and S'pore stick with an obviously outdated British law
>>that is renounced and abolished by the British themselves? Scavenging on others'
>>legal excrement won't do you any good!
>>
>>Knowing a smattering of manufacturing and finance does NOT make you an advanced or
>>developed nation. High time to change your obsolete mentality and step forward in
>>the human evolution.
>>
>>
>>
>>gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:27:56 GMT, subir.k.de@mail.sprint.com wrote:
>>>
>>> >ehooi97@pc.jaring.my wrote:
>>> >> I respect your opinion but as you see, such act is against our Eastern as
>>> >> well as Islamic culture especially in Malaysia which is considered an Islamic
>>> >> country. Even other religions like Buddhism, Christianity & others prohibits
>>> >> such act of the gays & lesbians.
>>> >
>>> >> Therefore, it is not appropriate to allow such homosexual conduct to be
>>> >> allowed in Malaysia.
>>>
>>> Not only are the perverted criminal activities of faggots condemned by
>>> all major religions, but it is well documented that AIDS was spread
>>> worldwide by faggots!!!
>>>
>>> Read the documentary book of 640 pages entitled "AND THE BAND PLAYED
>>> ON".
>>>
>>> It gives all the specifics about how AIDS was deliberately spread
>>> worldwide by the criminal perverts.
>>>
>>> The only good faggot is a cremated one!!!
>>> >
>>> >Well, when I was growing up in my small town, people were much more tolerant
>>> >of homosexuals. They were considered more of an oddity, more of a source of
>>> >amusamusement, rather than the currently fashionable subject of National
>>> >Morality Scrutiny.
>>> >
>>> >There can be no persecution of homosexuals under the pretext of 'appropriate
>>> >behaviour'.
>>> >
>>> >     Subir De.
>>> >
>>> >-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
>>> >http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp   Create Your Own Free Member Forum
>sven88



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On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 17:49:27 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:

>Muslim nations seem to have more sense and respect for normal humans,
>than do the degenerate JEW run countries.
>
>The only good faggot is a cremated one, whether dead or otherwise!!!
>
>Immolate yourself, and then try to talk, if you can comprehend.
>
>
>On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 16:00:05 +0700, Bigger 
>wrote:
>>Who gives a shit about major religions now? They are expiring in a couple of years
>>and already smell.

>>In the most advanced countries of the world: in Northern Europe, Northern America,
>>Australia and NZ homosexuality is largely tolerated and even homosexual marriages,
>>children adoption and many other issues are legalised.
>>
>>How much longer will M'sia and S'pore stick with an obviously outdated British law
>>that is renounced and abolished by the British themselves? Scavenging on others'
>>legal excrement won't do you any good!

>>gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>>> On Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:27:56 GMT, subir.k.de@mail.sprint.com wrote:
>>> >ehooi97@pc.jaring.my wrote:
>>> >> I respect your opinion but as you see, such act is against our Eastern as
>>> >> well as Islamic culture especially in Malaysia which is considered an Islamic
>>> >> country. Even other religions like Buddhism, Christianity & others prohibits
>>> >> such act of the gays & lesbians.
>>> >
>>> >> Therefore, it is not appropriate to allow such homosexual conduct to be
>>> >> allowed in Malaysia.
>>>
>>> Not only are the perverted criminal activities of faggots condemned by
>>> all major religions, but it is well documented that AIDS was spread
>>> worldwide by faggots!!!
>>>
>>> Read the documentary book of 640 pages entitled "AND THE BAND PLAYED
>>> ON".
>>>
>>> It gives all the specifics about how AIDS was deliberately spread
>>> worldwide by the criminal perverts.
>>>
>>> The only good faggot is a cremated one!!!
>>> >
>>> >Well, when I was growing up in my small town, people were much more tolerant
>>> >of homosexuals. They were considered more of an oddity, more of a source of
>>> >amusamusement, rather than the currently fashionable subject of National
>>> >Morality Scrutiny.



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Canada prefers to support anti-muslim factions, and prefrs to support
JEW murderers and their foul country of Israel.

Canada even supplies flase Canadian passports to MOSSAD, regularly!!!

On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:42:26 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:

>Since in WWII, the JEW Zionists were allied to the Nazis, your comment
>is incorrect.
>
>
>2 spies for the JEW Mossad  terrorist organisation tried last Thursday
>to murder Hamas leader Khaled Meshal, in Jordan.
>
>According to news reports, the 2 criminals, using Canadian passports,
>used some form of injecting device when they tried to murder the
>popular Hamas chief.
>
>The Candian government is trying to distance itself from the criminalk
>activities of the Israeli Mossad, but it is presently unclear whether
>the Jew terrorists were in fact Canadians, or whether the canadian
>government is again issuing false passports, as it did for the 6 CIA
>agents in Tehran under Joe Clark!!!
>
>One MUST wonder, what is the active involvement of the Canadian
>Government in the worldwide terrorism of the JEWS???
>
>In a strange twist to this story, the JEWS released another Hamas
>leader from the prison in Israel, and then deported him to Jordan.At
>the same time, the media report that Israel provided the antidote to
>the poison used by the spies on Meshal in their murder attempt.
>
>
>On 5 Nov 1998 07:54:40 GMT, morbius@vcn.bc.ca (Michael Morbius) wrote:
>
>>IIRC Mossad didn't have our permission to use those passports.
>>
>>Anyway, don't they kill Nazis?  Isn't that a good thing?
>>
>>Mike



On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:19:28 GMT, yfyap@pop.jaring.my (Yap Yok Foo)
wrote:

>From BBC News
>15th Nov 1998
>
>Canada snubs Malaysia over Anwar 
>
>Mr Anwar's wife is pressing her husband's case 
>
>The wife of former Malaysian Deputy Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim has
>met a delegation of Canadian Government ministers who are in Malaysia
>for a meeting of the Asia Pacific Economic Co-operation (Apec) forum. 
>
>Canadian Foreign Minister Lloyd Axworthy and Trade Minister Sergio
>Marchi met Azizah Ismail at a hotel in a show of solidarity with Mr
>Anwar, who Mr Axworthy described as a political detainee. 
>
>Malaysia had warned ministers attending the summit not to interfere in
>Malaysia's affairs. 
>
>After the meeting Azizah Ismail said: "We're very happy and
>encouraged." 
>
>She is also scheduled to meet the American Secretary of State,
>Madeleine Albright, in what will be interpreted as another gesture of
>support for Mr Anwar. 
>
>
>US analyst Adam Schwarz: Anwar has some high-placed
>friends in the USCommenting on Ms Albright's planned meeting,
>Malaysian Foreign Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi said: "She is here as
>our guest. She should know what to do as our guest." 
>
>Legal challenge 
>
>On Friday, Mr Anwar's lawyers filed a legal challenge over his sacking
>by Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad. 
>
>They said the dismissal was an abuse of power by Dr Mahathir because
>only Malaysia's king, Yang di-Pertuan, has the power to formally fire
>ministers. 
>
>
>Lumpur]>Security is tight for the Apec summit in Kuala LumpurWhen Mr
>Anwar was sacked in early September, Dr Mahathir described him as
>being morally unfit to perform his duties. 
>
>Mr Anwar's trial on charges of corruption and sexual misconduct has
>been put on hold for the duration of the Apec summit. 
>
>So far only seven of the 52 prosecution witnesses have taken the stand
>since the trial began on 2 November. 
>
>At least three leaders due to attend the Apec meeting, including US
>President Bill Clinton, have said they will not meet Dr Mahathir for
>bilateral talks in protest at the treatment of Mr Anwar, who appeared
>in court with a black eye after he was arrested on 20 September. 
>
>Apec foreign and trade ministers opened the talks in Kuala Lumpur on
>Saturday. The leaders of the 21 Pacific Rim nations are due to meet
>next week to discuss the current Asian economic crisis and global
>economic issues.
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_214000/214220.stm
>



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On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:12:03 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:13:12 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On 02 May 1998 16:44:09 GMT, panjanusz@aol.com (Pan Janusz) wrote:
>>
>>>Translated from Polish:
>>
>>>Reprinted from "Polish Weekly"  published in Australia.
>>
>>>Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued the extradition papers
>>>for war criminal Samuel Morel. Polish authorities will ask authorities in
>>>Israel to extradite Morel.
>>>Morel is accused of "cruel treatment and tortures of prisoners and jeopardizing
>>>their safety and health." Using common language, between years 1945-1950 he was
>>>beating prisoners, torturing and killing them.
>>
>>>Morel was born in 1919, from 1940 was a member of Jewish band which was
>>>assaulting Polish villages in province of Kielce and robbing Polish farmers. In
>>>December of 1942 during one of their assaults the band was destroyed by a
>>>detachment of People's Army ( communist guerillas in nazi occupied Poland).
>>>Father and brother of Morel were executed, he alone became a member of the
>>>People's Army. He defected from the group when Red Army was inching toward
>>>province of Kielce and became a member of Soviet guerillas.
>>>Soon he became an officer of UB (communist Security Office in Soviet occupied
>>>Poland).
>>>In the beginning of 1945 he was sent to the region of Silesia and received the
>>>nomination on the camp commandant for Germans in Swietochlowice.
>>> About his crime committed in this camp wrote, among others, an American
>>>journalist John Sack in his book "Eye for an eye" ( for this book John Sack who
>>>is a Jew was decalred an antisemite).
>>>In the end of December of 1945 Morel had been transferred and became a warden
>>>of the UB prison in Opole. There he tortured Poles and Germans. He also
>>>tortured minors in the labor camp in Jaworzno which he was a commandant between
>>>1946-1950. He was fired from this post, for mortality among prisoners was too
>>>big. 
>>
>>>In 1991 he was interviewed by a prosecutor, panicked and fled to Israel.
>>>After spending all his money, within few months he returned to Poland, but soon
>>>he surfaced in Sweden where he demanded political asylum argumenting that he
>>>was persecuted in Poland because he was a Jew. His plea was rejected and Morel
>>>again came back to Poland. 
>>>On 10th of July Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued arrest
>>>warrant. They were late. Morel again fled to Israel.
>>>His retirement pention is being picked up by the wife of the criminal.
>>>Since 1996 Morel is on the most wanted list of the INTERPOL.
>>>According to international law he should be arrested by Israeli police and
>>>charged by Israel with war crimes.
>>>He should.....
>>
>>>Translated by Janusz Styber
>>



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On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 14:57:10 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Oct 1997 01:26:54 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
>Tavish) wrote:
>
>>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>and activating their  accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>up and kill Jews."
>>
>>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>>
>>"Individual revolutionary leaders and Sverdlov -- played a conspicuous
>>part in the revolution of November, 1917,  which enabled the
>>Bolshevists to take possession of the state apparatus" (Univ. Jew.
>>Encyd., Vol. IX, p.668). Here and there in the Universal Jewish
>>Encyclopedia other Jews are named as co-founders of Russian 
>>Communism, but not Lenin and Stalin. Both of these, however, 
>>are said by some writers to be half-Jewish. Whatever the racial
>>antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet commissariats were 
>>largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in the Communist
>>movement was well understood in Russia. "The White Armies which
>>opposed the Bolsehvik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks 
>>as common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>
>>The Ukrainians were part of the White Army (Gentile) that
>>opposed the Red Army (loyal to Jewish Commissariats).
>>



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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 07:35:57 -0500, "Guy P. Major, Attorney at Law"
 wrote:

>Established Canadian Law Firm seeks reputable business/professional
>partner 

This smells like another swindle by criminals trying to get more
criminals and other undesirables into Canada!!!

Legitimate, qualified individuals do not need to pay scammers to apply
to emigrate to canada.

Only those unsuited, and unqualified, need pay for the service, which
is available FREE at all Canada immigration offices!!!!


By the way, since when is the appellation "attorney at law" legal in
Canada??



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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 01:20:55 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>Is this any less fraudulent than the Neil Sher case in the USA???
>
>
>Isn't this the same JEW charged with perjury in connection with the
>Demjanjuk case???
>
>
>On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 19:29:13 GMT, Stefan Lemieszewski
> wrote:
>
>>The following forwarded CP article is posted at  the Ukrainian Archive
>>website under the caption "Neal Sher should be sent packing" at:
>>
>>www.ukar.org
>>
>>Neal Sher headed the U.S. Office of Special Investigations (OSI) of the
>>U.S. Department of Justice for many years. Recently, he was hired as a
>>consultant by Anne McLellan, the Canadian Justice Minister.
>>
>>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>April 28, 1998
>>
>>U.S. Nazi hunter admits he's under investigation for perjury
>>
>>OTTAWA (CP) — A top Nazi hunter hired to help Canada pursue suspected
>>war criminals is
>>under investigation for perjury by the Justice Department in the United
>>States.
>>
>>     Neal Sher, a Washington lawyer, told the Commons justice committee
>>Wednesday that he
>>is being investigated by the Office of Professional Responsibility, a
>>unit of the U.S. Justice Department that handles complaints about
>>attorneys.
>>
>>     The allegations date back to 1990 when Sher was director of the
>>U.S. Office of Special Investigations, which is responsible for hunting
>>Nazi war criminals in the United States.
>>
>>     The office has been accused of withholding evidence that might have
>>been helpful to the case of Andrija Artukovic, a California resident who
>>was extradited to Yugoslavia for war crimes during the Second World
>>War.  Sher said he has been assured that the allegations against him are
>>groundless, but no official verdict has been rendered.
>>
>>     John Sims, assistant deputy attorney general, said he was not aware
>>of the investigation when he hired Sher as a consultant to help the
>>federal government track down war criminals.
>>
>>     Sims said he found out about it a couple of days ago from a
>>colleague in his department.  He said he has not mentioned the fact to
>>Solicitor General Andy Scott.
>>
>>     Sher was summoned to appear before the committee at the request of
>>members who say they have been hearing concerns about his role and
>>background.
>>
>>     Conservative MP Peter MacKay said Sher should be dismissed from his
>>job advising the federal Justice Department.
>>
>>     "It's a little shocking to think that somebody that is being relied
>>on heavily by the Canadian government is himself under investigation for
>>potential — and I key on the word potential — frauds perpetrated on the
>>court," said McKay, a former Crown attorney.
>>
>>     "It comes as a bit of a disappointment that the Canadian government
>>didn't do their research first and have that knowledge themselves.  I
>>think he should be paid for his advice and sent packing."
>>
>>     Reform MP Jack Ramsay said he was surprised at Sher's statement
>>that allegations against him are unfounded.
>>
>>     "What I found interesting is that investigation is not over and yet
>>he knows the results of it at least in part."
>>
>>     Sims said Sher is working for the Justice Department two or three
>>days a month and gets paid $200 US per hour.  He said Sher's advice has
>>been helpful.
>>
>>     Much of the Sher's testimony before the committee dealt with his
>>role in the extradition from the United States of John Demjanjuk, who
>>was accused of being a Nazi death camp guard known as Ivan the Terrible.
>>
>>     Demjanjuk was eventually acquitted of war-crimes charges in Israel
>>and returned to Ohio.
>>
>>     Sher conceded there were errors in the handling of the case.  The
>>Canadian Jewish Conference issued a statement Wednesday strongly
>>endorsing Sher's engagement as a consultant.
>>
>>     "Examining the totality of Mr. Sher's career at the Office of
>>Special Investigations and after reveals a record of outstanding success
>>and energy in bringing alleged Nazi war criminals to the bar of
>>justice," the statement said.
>>
>
>On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:42:33 -0500, "Saabirah" 
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Ibrahim Dughlas-Gani wrote in message ...
>>>
>>>brother Ali, you should stop posting Neo-Nazi literature to usenet.  As a
>>>Muslim, you should have nothing to do with evil right wing scum.  Zionism
>>>itself may be evil, but Nazism and it's revived offspring are even worse.
>>>
>>Agreed.
>>
>>waSalaam
>>
>>Saabirah
>>



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On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:22 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:13:12 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On 02 May 1998 16:44:09 GMT, panjanusz@aol.com (Pan Janusz) wrote:
>>
>>>Translated from Polish:
>>
>>>Reprinted from "Polish Weekly"  published in Australia.
>>
>>>Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued the extradition papers
>>>for war criminal Samuel Morel. Polish authorities will ask authorities in
>>>Israel to extradite Morel.
>>>Morel is accused of "cruel treatment and tortures of prisoners and jeopardizing
>>>their safety and health." Using common language, between years 1945-1950 he was
>>>beating prisoners, torturing and killing them.
>>
>>>Morel was born in 1919, from 1940 was a member of Jewish band which was
>>>assaulting Polish villages in province of Kielce and robbing Polish farmers. In
>>>December of 1942 during one of their assaults the band was destroyed by a
>>>detachment of People's Army ( communist guerillas in nazi occupied Poland).
>>>Father and brother of Morel were executed, he alone became a member of the
>>>People's Army. He defected from the group when Red Army was inching toward
>>>province of Kielce and became a member of Soviet guerillas.
>>>Soon he became an officer of UB (communist Security Office in Soviet occupied
>>>Poland).
>>>In the beginning of 1945 he was sent to the region of Silesia and received the
>>>nomination on the camp commandant for Germans in Swietochlowice.
>>> About his crime committed in this camp wrote, among others, an American
>>>journalist John Sack in his book "Eye for an eye" ( for this book John Sack who
>>>is a Jew was decalred an antisemite).
>>>In the end of December of 1945 Morel had been transferred and became a warden
>>>of the UB prison in Opole. There he tortured Poles and Germans. He also
>>>tortured minors in the labor camp in Jaworzno which he was a commandant between
>>>1946-1950. He was fired from this post, for mortality among prisoners was too
>>>big. 
>>
>>>In 1991 he was interviewed by a prosecutor, panicked and fled to Israel.
>>>After spending all his money, within few months he returned to Poland, but soon
>>>he surfaced in Sweden where he demanded political asylum argumenting that he
>>>was persecuted in Poland because he was a Jew. His plea was rejected and Morel
>>>again came back to Poland. 
>>>On 10th of July Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued arrest
>>>warrant. They were late. Morel again fled to Israel.
>>>His retirement pention is being picked up by the wife of the criminal.
>>>Since 1996 Morel is on the most wanted list of the INTERPOL.
>>>According to international law he should be arrested by Israeli police and
>>>charged by Israel with war crimes.
>>>He should.....
>>
>>>Translated by Janusz Styber
>>



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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:20:03 GMT, kengoy88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:35:54 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>>On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:15:39 GMT, adam.radek@england.com wrote:
>>>>http://www.villagevoice.com/ink/news/21friedman.shtml
>>
>>>>The Village Voice
>>>>22May98
>>
>>If the following story is true, why has INTERPOL not done anything??
>>Just because the criminals are JEWS??
>>
>>
>>>The Most Dangerous Mobster in the World
>>
>>>According to the FBI and Israeli Intelligence, Semion Mogilevich Rules
>>>Over an Arms-Trafficking, Money-Laundering, Drug-Running, and
>>>Art-Smuggling 'Red Mafia'
>>
>>>by Robert I. Friedman
>>
>>
>>>In two posh villas outside  the small town of Ricany, near Prague, one
>>>of the most dreaded mob families in the world savagely murders its
>>>terrified victims. The  mob's young enforcers, trained by veterans of
>>>the Afghanistan war, are infamous for their extreme brutality. Their
>>>quarry, usually businessmen who have balked at extortion demands, are
>>>repeatedly stabbed and tortured, then mutilated before they are
>>>butchered. The carnage is so hideous that it has scared the daylights
>>>out of competing crime groups in the area.
>>
>>>The torture chambers are run by what international police officials call
>>>the Red Mafia, a notorious  Russian mob family that in onlysix years has
>>>become a nefarious global crime cartel. Based in Budapest, it haskey
>>>centers in New York, Pennsylvania, Southern California, and as far away
>>>as New Zealand.
>>>
>>>The enigmatic leader of the Red Mafia is a  52-year-old Ukrainian-born
>>>JEW named Semion Mogilevich. He is a shadowy figure known as the
>>>''Brainy Don''--he holds an economics degree from  the University of
>>>Lvov--and until now, he has never  been exposed by the media. But the
>>>Voice has  obtained hundreds of pages of classified FBI and  Israeli
>>>intelligence documents from August 1996, and   these documents--as well
>>>as recent interviews with a key criminal associate and with dozens of
>>>law  enforcement sources here and abroad--describe him as someone who
>>>has become a grave threat to the stability of Israel and Eastern Europe.
>>
>>>''He's the most powerful mobster in the world,'' crows Monya Elson, who
>>>is listed in classified documents as one of Mogilevich's closest
>>>associates and  partners in prostitution and money laundering rings. The
>>>Brighton Beach-based Elson, who once led a pack of thugs and killers
>>>known as Monya's Brigada,  is currently in the Metropolitan Correctional
>>>Center in  lower Manhattan awaiting trial for three murders and numerous
>>>extortions.
>>
>>>In July 1993, after Elson was grievously wounded by rival mobsters in a
>>>bloody shoot-out outside his Brooklyn apartment building, Mogilevich
>>>spirited him out of the country. Mogilevich then set up his Russian
>>>Jewish refugee friend in an alleged massive  money-laundering scheme in
>>>Fano, Italy, where he was eventually arrested and extradited back to
>>>America. Elson, an integral part of the Red Mafia, had been one of the
>>>most feared mobsters in Brighton Beach, ground zero for Russian
>>>organized crime in America, which has exploded here following
>>>perestroika.
>>>
>>>''If I tell on Mogilevich, Interpol will give me $20 million,'' boasted
>>>Elson. ''I lived with him. I'm his partner, don't forget. We are very,
>>>very close friends. I don't mean close, I mean very, very close. He's my
>>>best friend.'' Nevertheless, after extensive interviews over the course
>>>of the last six months, Elson ultimately confirmed some of the details
>>>about Mogilevich contained in the classified FBI and Israeli documents.
>>>
>>>Allegations of Mogilevich's devilish array of criminal activities are
>>>extensively detailed in the reports:The FBI and Israeli intelligence
>>>assert that he traffics in nuclear materials, drugs, prostitutes,
>>>precious gems, and stolen art. His contract hit squads operate in the
>>>U.S. and Europe. He controls everything that goes in and out of Moscow's
>>>Sheremetyevo International Airport, a ''smugglers' paradise,'' says
>>>Elson. Mogilevich bought a bankrupt airline in a former Central Asian
>>>Soviet republic for millions of dollars in cash so he could haul heroin
>>>out of the Golden Triangle. Most worrisome to U.S. authorities is
>>>Mogilevich's apparently legal purchase of virtually the entire Hungarian
>>>armaments industry, jeopardizing regional security, NATO, and the war
>>>against terrorism.
>>>
>>>In one typical criminal deal, Mogilevich and two Moscow-based gangsters
>>>sold $20 million worth of pilfered Warsaw Pact weapons from East
>>>Germany,  including ground-to-air missiles and 12 armored troop
>>>carriers, according to the classified Israeli and FBI documents. The
>>>buyer was Iran, says a top-level U.S. Customs official who requested
>>>anonymity.
>>>
>>>In another deal, an FBI informant told the bureau that one of
>>>Mogilevich's chief lieutenants in Los Angeles met two Russians from New
>>>York City with Genovese crime family ties to broker a scheme to dump
>>>American toxic waste in Russia. Mogilevich's man from L.A. said the Red
>>>Mafia would dispose of  the toxic waste in the Chernobyl region,
>>>''probably through payoffs to the decontamination authorities there,''
>>>says a classified FBI report.
>>>
>>>Mogilevich is particularly intrigued by art fraud. In early 1993, he
>>>reached an agreement with the  leaders of the powerful Solntsevskaya
>>>crime family in Moscow to invest huge sums of money in a joint venture:
>>>acquiring a jewelry business in Moscow and Budapest. The business,
>>>according to classified FBI documents, was to serve as a front for the
>>>acquisition of jewelry, antiques, and art, which the Solntsevskaya mob
>>>had stolen from churches and museums in Russia, including the Hermitage
>>>in St. Petersburg. The gangsters also robbed the homes of  art
>>>collectors and even broke into synagogues in Germany and Eastern Europe
>>>to steal rare religious books and Torahs.
>>>
>>>Mogilevich's operation, again in collusion with the Solntsevskaya mob,
>>>also purchased a large jewelry factory in Budapest. Russian antiques,
>>>such as Faberge eggs, are sent to Budapest for ''restoration.''
>>>Mogilevich's men ship the genuine Faberge eggs to  an unwitting
>>>Sotheby's auction house in London for sale, then send fake Faberge eggs
>>>as well as other ''restored'' objects back to Moscow.
>>>
>>>MOGILEVICH'S EARLY years are murky. Soviet authorities first learned of
>>>his criminal activities in the 1970s, when he was a member of the
>>>Liubertskaya crime group that operated in the Moscow suburb of  the same
>>>name. He was involved in petty thefts and counterfeiting.
>>>
>>>But Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the mid
>>>1980s, when tens of thousands of  Jewish refugees were hurriedly
>>>immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
>>>assets--rubles, furniture, and art--cheaply, promising to exchange the
>>>goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ''hard''
>>>currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
>>>profits.
>>>
>>>In the 1980s, he established a petroleum  import-export company, Arbat
>>>International, and registered it in Alderney, one of the Channel
>>>Islands, which is known to be a tax haven. One of his partners--with a
>>>quarter share of the company--was Vyacheslav Ivankov, the legendary
>>>Russian criminal who in March 1992 became Godfather of the Russian mob
>>>in America. Ivankov was convicted in 1996 of extorting two Russian-born
>>>Wall Street stockbrokers. He now resides in Raybrook, a Federal prison
>>>in upstate New York.
>>>
>>>In early 1990, Mogilevich fled Moscow, as did many other dons, to avoid
>>>the gangland wars that were then roiling the capital. Mogilevich and his
>>>top henchmen settled in Israel, where they received  Israeli
>>>citizenship. He ''succeeded in building a bridgehead in Israel'' and
>>>''developing significant and influential [political] ties,'' says an
>>>Israeli intelligence report.
>>>
>>>Mogilevich is married to a Hungarian national, Katalin Papp. That
>>>marriage allowed him to legally emigrate to Budapest, Hungary, in 1991,
>>>where he began to build the foundations of his global criminal empire.
>>>He bought a string of nightclubs in Prague, Riga, and  Kiev--called the
>>>''Black and White Clubs''--that has become one of the world's foremost
>>>centers of  prostitution. Monya Elson is a partner in the clubs,
>>>according to his own admission and classified FBI  documents. The Black
>>>and White Club in Budapest became the hub of Mogilevich's operations. He
>>>quickly built a highly structured criminal organization,  in the mode of
>>>a traditional American mafia family.  Indeed, many of the organization's
>>>250 members are his relatives.
>>>
>>>To the consternation of international law enforcement officials,
>>>Mogilevich began to legally purchase much of Hungary's arms industry.
>>>The legitimate companies he bought include:
>>>
>>>-Magnex 2000: a giant magnet manufacturer.
>>>
>>>-Digep General Machine Works: an artillery shell, mortar, and fire
>>>equipment manufacturer, which was financed by a $3.8 million loan from
>>>the London  branch of Banque Francaise De L'orean.
>>>
>>>-Army Co-op: a mortar and anti-aircraft gun factory. Army Co-op was
>>>established in 1991 by two  Hungarian nationals, both in the local arms
>>>industry,  who were looking for a partner. Mogilevich has bought 95 per
>>>cent of Army Co-op through another Channel Island holding company,
>>>Arigon, Ltd., and also deals extensively with the Ukraine, selling oil
>>>products to the Ukrainian railway administration.
>>>
>>>These transactions enabled the Mogilevich organization to become a
>>>direct owner of the Hungarian armaments industry. In 1994, he purchased
>>>a license enabling him to buy and sell  weapons. Now a legitimate
>>>armaments manufacturer, one of his companies participated in at least
>>>one arms exhibition in the U.S., where it displayed mortars modified by
>>>Israel.
>>>
>>>Like mob bosses everywhere, Mogilevich couldn't  sustain his empire
>>>without the help of corrupt police and politicians. There is one
>>>documented example of  a criminal associate of Mogilevich mingling with
>>>American politicians. In March 1994, Vahtang Ubiriya, one of
>>>Mogilevich's top lieutenants, was photographed by the FBI at a tony
>>>Republican Party fundraiser in Dallas, says an FBI report. Ubiriya, a
>>>high-ranking official in the Ukrainian railway administration, has a
>>>prior conviction for bribery in the Ukraine.
>>>
>>>In Europe and Russia, the ''corruption of police and public officials
>>>has been part of the Semion  Mogilevich Organization's modus operandi,''
>>>says a classified FBI document. ''The corruptive influence of  the
>>>Mogilevich organization apparently extends to the Russian security
>>>system. During 1995, two colonels from Department of the Russian
>>>Presidential Security Service . . . traveled to Hungary under commercia
>>>cover to meet with Mogilevich . . . seeking  information for use in the
>>>Russian political campaign.'' An Israeli associate of Mogilevich met
>>>with the two colonels and provided intelligence.  Mogilevich also paid
>>>off a Russian judge to secure  Vyacheslav Ivankov's early release from a
>>>Siberian prison, where he was doing hard time for robbery and torture,
>>>according to U.S. court records and  classified FBI documents.
>>>
>>>On April 28, the German national television network ZDF reported that
>>>the BND (the German intelligence agency) had entered into a secret
>>>contract with  Mogilevich to provide information on the Russian  mob.
>>>The charges were made by several sources,   including Pierre Delilez, a
>>>highly regarded Belgium  police investigator who specializes in Russian
>>>Organized Crime. Because of this deal with the BND,  police in Belgium,
>>>Germany, and Austria have complained that it is now impossible to
>>>investigate  the ''Brainy Don.'' If the television report is accurate,
>>>one possible motive for BND's deal, says a U.S. law enforcement expert
>>>on the Russian mob, is that the Germans recently ''pulled their people
>>>out of Moscow  because they didn't like the level of cooperation they
>>>were getting from the Russian authorities on the  Russian mob.''
>>>Gangsters, said this source, often talk to intelligence agencies about
>>>their rivals.
>>>
>>>MOGILEVICH'S MAIN activity in the U.S. appears to be money laundering,
>>>says a classified FBI report.  He has set up companies in Los
>>>Angeles--FNJ Trade Management--and Newton, Pennsylvania--YBM  Magnex
>>>International--as well as dozens of shell  companies, which have
>>>received more than $30 million from Arigon, Ltd., the center of
>>>Mogilevich's  financial operations.
>>>
>>>Last Friday, U.S. Attorney Robert Courtney, head of  the organized-crime
>>>strike force, led a a joint FBI,  IRS, INS, and Customs raid of YBM's
>>>offices in  Newton. Cartons of documents were seized, with  Canadian and
>>>U.S. police citing the company's alleged ties to Russian organized
>>>crime. YBM is  publicly traded on the Toronto Stock Exchange, and  two
>>>days before Friday's raid, trading in its stock was suspended by
>>>Canadian authorities.
>>>
>>>The president and CEO of YBM is Jacob Bogatin, a professor of physical
>>>metallurgy. In May 1996, he contacted the FBI in Philadelphia to find
>>>out why the  INS had denied visas to YBM employees arriving from Hungary
>>>and the Ukraine. When he was rebuffed, he had intermediaries step
>>>forward and pester the FBI. The State Department has banned Mogilevich
>>>himself from obtaining a U.S. visa because he's on the department's
>>>watch list of  international organized-crime figures. Nevertheless, he
>>>has surreptitiously entered America under aliases and on visitor visas
>>>issued in Tel Aviv to visit Elson  and Ivankov.
>>>
>>>Bogatin admitted during a telephone interview that Mogilevich owns his
>>>company. When asked if he knew that numerous law enforcement agencies
>>>here and abroad considered Mogilevich to be a leader of  one of the most
>>>ruthless organized-crime families in  recent times, Bogatin replied,
>>>''We have an investors relations guy. You want to talk with him about
>>>this stuff.'' He added that he had read allegations in the Eastern
>>>European press that his boss was a Mafia don, but didn't believe them.
>>>YBM vehemently denies that it is connected to Russian organized crime or
>>>has engaged in any criminal activities.
>>>
>>>Bogatin is no stranger to the mob, however. His brother, David, a top
>>>Russian crime figure who once served in North Vietnam for the Soviets in
>>>an anti-aircraft unit, is now serving an eight-year term in  a New York
>>>State prison for a multimillion-dollar gasoline tax fraud scheme. Just
>>>prior to trial, he had jumped bail, fleeing to Poland. There he set up
>>>the  first commercial banks, which moved vast sums of  money controlled
>>>by Russian wiseguys. (This after handing over his mortgages for five
>>>pricey Trump Tower apartments to a Genovese associate. The mortgages
>>>were liquidated and the funds were moved  through a mafia-controlled
>>>bank in Chelsea.)  Eventually he was caught and returned to the U.S. In
>>>the meantime, he lived like royalty in a five-star  Viennese hotel,
>>>surrounded by a praetorian guard of 125 Polish parachutists, some of
>>>them bedecked in shiny gold uniforms.
>>>
>>>Mogilevich has not refrained from associating with known killers in
>>>America, prime among them Elson and Ivankov. A confidential informant
>>>told the FBI that Vladimir Berkovich, an L.A. resident, is a chief
>>>lieutenant in Mogilevich's organization and has arranged contract
>>>killings here, supplying the  weapons and spiriting the killers out of
>>>the country. The visas, says the report, were obtained through the Palm
>>>Terrace restaurant, a watering hole for Russian gangsters, which
>>>Berkovich owns. Berkovich told the Voice that he is aware of the
>>>government's charges, and that they are ''total bullshit.'' Although he
>>>has no criminal record in the U.S., Berkovich's son, Oleg, was convicted
>>>in Los Angeles of solicitation to commit murder on October 11, 1989. He
>>>was sentenced to four years. Oleg's business card  identified his
>>>employer as Magnex, Ltd., a company owned by Mogilevich in Budapest.
>>>Oleg was recently arrested in Hungary on unspecified charges but was
>>>released.
>>>
>>>Oleg's uncle, the colorful Lazar Berkovich, whose last known address was
>>>New York City, arrived in the  Big Apple after having survived a
>>>shootout with Italian gangsters, says his brother Vladimir. The FBI
>>>report claims that Lazar was head of Russian criminal activities in
>>>Italy prior to his coming to America to recuperate from his wounds,
>>>though Vladimir  Bercovich denies that Lazar was ever connected to the
>>>Russian mob.
>>>
>>>Israeli and U.S. law enforcement sources agree that the Red Mafia,
>>>though in existence for a mere six years, has become one of the most
>>>formidable Russian organized-crime families in the world. Strongest in
>>>the Ukraine, Hungary, the Czech  Republic, and the U.S., Mogilevich has
>>>increased his strength by forging ties with other powerful Russian mob
>>>groups as well as with the Italian Camorra. His reported ties to the
>>>German BND and ex-police officers in Hungary keep him informed of police
>>>efforts to penetrate his organization. ''He also  ingratiates himself
>>>with the police by providing information on other [Russian crime]
>>>groups'  activities, thus appearing to be a cooperative good  citizen,''
>>>says a classfied FBI report. This, along with  his strong leadership
>>>qualities, his acute financial  skills, his talented and highly educated
>>>associates,  and his use of cutting-edge technology, has so far  made
>>>the ''Brainy Don'' impervious to prosecution.
>>>
>>>This document last modified Friday, May 22, 1998, 10:31 AM EDT.



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On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 05:59:27 +0800, KenSicko 
wanted to write the following:
On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:43:10 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>Dr.Mahathir, the President of Malaysia seemed to not only know about
>what he spoke, but documented his findings most adequately.

>It seems that the Jew irgun doesn't even remember that the Jew now
>calling himself Soros was one of the key people responsible for the
>massive devaluation of S.E.Asian currencies last year, caused by
>speculators!!!

>Mind you, since Malaysia is also a supporter of Islam, perhaps Dr.
>Mahathir could also have been referring to the Q'Ana massacre where
>the Israelis murdered not only innocent civilians, but even killed UN
>troops??

>Perhaps critics and supporters should detail which part of the
>original article they are discussing.

>Ad hominem comments add nothing to considered discussion.

>On 9 Oct 1997 01:39:04 GMT, dh435@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kenneth Tan)
>wrote:

>>I applaud Mahathir's bold stand against the money speculators
>>and abusive foreign press. He is the only man in Asia brave
>>enough to show the world how smaller countries are victimised
>>by these people backed by their powerful western countries.

>>MIGHT MAKES RIGHT is what these western countries believe in.
>>As long as you have the muscle, anything you do is right.
>>They can suck 40 years for blood and sweat out of Malaysia's
>>economy within a week. They call it "free-market" just because
>>they make laws that allow them to do it. Anybody with any
>>conscience can see this is totally immoral, except the western
>>powers where their laws make it totally moral and laudable.

>>MIGHT MAKES RIGHT is how the western powers make laws to let
>>them do anything they want with a happy conscience. Only now
>>has anyone tried to stand up to them, and that man is Mahathir.
>>Sure the western blood suckers can use their laws and their
>>stolen money to punish Mahathir and Malaysia, but what Mahathir
>>is doing is the only way to bring conscience to the world. Make
>>the rest of the world see how unscruplous these western powers
>>are.

>>Give your support to Mahathir, let him know he is not fighting
>>the battle alone. The blood sucking western powers can bleed
>>Malaysia dry, but they cannot kill the spirit of the people. 
>>kt

>On Sat, 25 Apr 1998 17:52:34 -0700, irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote:
>
>>omerta@casanostra.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Perhaps this previous article should be further discussed??
>>> 
>>> PM Mahathir at least is not afraid of International Jewry!!
sven 88




From sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy Tue Nov 17 07:38:51 EST 1998
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Is this part of the retaliation of Cuba, for being swindled out of $12
millions regarding Confed Life, plus the theft by Canada Post Managers
of a sack full of computer programs??


Was he perhaps an Israeli MOSSAD spy, using a Canadian passport, like
in Jordan and elsewhere???

On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:09:50 -0800, Peter Aspinall
 wrote:

>Why are we getting these messages repeated? They are bad
>enough the first time. Isn't there any way of stopping this
>incessant drivel from these fascist morons? People die when
>on holiday. Nobody likes it, but it is a fact of life. Deal
>with it. A friend of mine killed a Japanese tourist in a
>motor vehicle incident in Victoria, Canada - freak accident.
>Better put out a warning to all Japanese people: Avoid
>Canada!
>
>yara4609@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>> 
>>  http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/
>> 
>> November 13, 1998
>> 
>> Mystery shrouds slain DND worker
>> 
>> Body unidentified in Cuban morgue for 7 months
>> By BRAD HUNTER -- Ottawa Sun
>> 
>>  A Department of National Defence employee was gunned down in Cuba months
>> ago, but his body was only identified this week.

On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 04:21:40 -0500, "Anton Mendoza"
 wrote:

> On my visit to Cuba, I was told by a cab driver that the Italians murdered
>were involved in smuggling paitings. He said they didn't want to pay the
>cubans they were doing business with so they got killed.
>Any true in this?
>
>D. DeLuca wrote in article <01be0f5a$3e50ab60$0d825ad1@ddeluca>...
>
>>How do you know this was an innocent tourist who did no harm to anyone?  Or
>>the two Italians for that matter?  The fact that all three men were
>>murdered within a few days in the same area points to foul play IMHO.  But
>>the investigation will bear this out (or not).
>
>



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Is this part of the retaliation of Cuba, for being swindled out of $12
millions regarding Confed Life, plus the theft by Canada Post Managers
of a sack full of computer programs??


On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:09:50 -0800, Peter Aspinall
 wrote:

>Why are we getting these messages repeated? They are bad
>enough the first time. Isn't there any way of stopping this
>incessant drivel from these fascist morons? People die when
>on holiday. Nobody likes it, but it is a fact of life. Deal
>with it. A friend of mine killed a Japanese tourist in a
>motor vehicle incident in Victoria, Canada - freak accident.
>Better put out a warning to all Japanese people: Avoid
>Canada!
>
>yara4609@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>> 
>>  http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/
>> 
>> November 13, 1998
>> 
>> Mystery shrouds slain DND worker
>> 
>> Body unidentified in Cuban morgue for 7 months
>> By BRAD HUNTER -- Ottawa Sun
>> 
>>  A Department of National Defence employee was gunned down in Cuba months
>> ago, but his body was only identified this week.
>>



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 02:18:19 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>Is this part of the retaliation of Cuba, for being swindled out of $12
>millions regarding Confed Life, plus the theft by Canada Post Managers
>of a sack full of computer programs??
>
>
>Was he perhaps an Israeli MOSSAD spy, using a Canadian passport, like
>in Jordan and elsewhere???
>
>On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:09:50 -0800, Peter Aspinall
> wrote:
>
>>Why are we getting these messages repeated? They are bad
>>enough the first time. Isn't there any way of stopping this
>>incessant drivel from these fascist morons? People die when
>>on holiday. Nobody likes it, but it is a fact of life. Deal
>>with it. A friend of mine killed a Japanese tourist in a
>>motor vehicle incident in Victoria, Canada - freak accident.
>>Better put out a warning to all Japanese people: Avoid
>>Canada!
>>
>>yara4609@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>  http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/
>>> 
>>> November 13, 1998
>>> 
>>> Mystery shrouds slain DND worker
>>> 
>>> Body unidentified in Cuban morgue for 7 months
>>> By BRAD HUNTER -- Ottawa Sun
>>> 
>>>  A Department of National Defence employee was gunned down in Cuba months
>>> ago, but his body was only identified this week.
>
>On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 04:21:40 -0500, "Anton Mendoza"
> wrote:
>
>> On my visit to Cuba, I was told by a cab driver that the Italians murdered
>>were involved in smuggling paitings. He said they didn't want to pay the
>>cubans they were doing business with so they got killed.
>>Any true in this?
>>
>>D. DeLuca wrote in article <01be0f5a$3e50ab60$0d825ad1@ddeluca>...
>>
>>>How do you know this was an innocent tourist who did no harm to anyone?  Or
>>>the two Italians for that matter?  The fact that all three men were
>>>murdered within a few days in the same area points to foul play IMHO.  But
>>>the investigation will bear this out (or not).
>>
>>



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On Mon, 06 Jul 1998 15:04:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>Also, with AIDS so prevalent in Canada, how many tourists from Canada,
>the faggots, are now spreading AIDS in Cuba???
>
>On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 00:34:34 GMT, omerta@casanostra.com wrote:
>
>>Could it be that the original poster is referring to the documented
>>fact that AIDS was spread worldwide, and deliberately, by the Canadian
>>faggot with Air Canada??
>
>>This is well documented in the 640 page book entitled "AND THE BAND
>>PLAYED ON".
>
>>Surely M.Cretin isn't involved in this, just because former PM's of
>>Canada tried to cover up this international scandal???



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On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 15:45:28 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>Is this part of the retaliation of Cuba, for being swindled out of $12
>millions regarding Confed Life, plus the theft by Canada Post Managers
>of a sack full of computer programs??
>
>
>On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:09:50 -0800, Peter Aspinall
> wrote:

>>yara4609@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>  http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/
>>> 
>>> November 13, 1998
>>> 
>>> Mystery shrouds slain DND worker
>>> 
>>> Body unidentified in Cuban morgue for 7 months
>>> By BRAD HUNTER -- Ottawa Sun
>>> 
>>>  A Department of National Defence employee was gunned down in Cuba months
>>> ago, but his body was only identified this week.


In view of the fact that Canada supplies Canadian passports to the
MOSSAD for their murderers, one must wonder whether the so-called
Canadian Defence staffer was really working for Canada, the CIA, or
Israeli Mossad.



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On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 20:13:06 GMT, pmartori@globalserve.net (Pedro
Martori ) wrote:

>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:40:12 GMT, oreilly@erinhall.com wrote:
>
>>Cubans, and Canadian taxpayers also, want to know why did Fidel Castro
>>give Jean Cretin the C$12 Million, as settlement for Confederation
>>Life Insurance??
>>
>>Did Fidel not know that Confederation Life had been BANKRUPT FOR MANY
>>YEARS??
>>
>>Who is actually getting the $12 million - crooks in Canada, or in
>>Cuba??
>>
>>Do the people at Freeport-McMoran now know about this deal, which will
>>now help them when they go to the World Court to collect their
>>reparations??
>>
>>After all, if there is a precedent for a Canadian firm, this can then
>>be used to collect by a US firm!!!!
>>
>>It seems that the Cubans got swindled by some Canadian crooks????
>>
>>Make sure that all your friends in Cuba know about this and try to
>>recover the money from Canada!!! Tell Granma about this.
>
>    This is the type of monkey business that canadian premiers have
>been doing with the mobsters called government of Cuba...
>    Cretin know very damned well what it is all about but prefers
>     to make peanuts with kastro than billions with a FREE CUBA !
>********************************************
>Pedro Martori - Montreal, Qc, Canada
>    pmartori@globalserve.net
>********************************************



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On 16 Nov 1998 00:09:47 GMT, chuckf2323@aol.com (ChuckF2323) wrote:

><From: sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy
>Date: Sun, Nov 15, 1998 10:10 AM
>Message-id: <36691928.3795402@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>
>
>On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 01:01:49 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>>
>>>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>>>question how many may have died in WWII!!!
>>>>>
>
>CF:>>>>Proof required of Jews, any kind of Jews, serving in the German
>military, during WW-II. Another lie, another liar!


It seems that chuck the fairy just will not accept the documented
truth.

Perhaps his handler can read the following article to him??

On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:02:29 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>
>>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>>question how many may have died in WWII!!!
>>
>>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!
>>
>>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>>involved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, vagabond@idirect.com (William
>>Markiewicz) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at.  See the
>>>Communication Page, August 97 issue 
>>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>>
>>sperati wrote:
>>> 
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>> 
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> 
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>> 
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>> 
>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>> 
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>> 
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>> 
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>> 
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>> 
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>> 
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>> 
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>> 
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>> 
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>> 
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>> 
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>> 
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>> 
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>> 
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>> 
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>> 
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>> 
>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>
>>
>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
sven88


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On Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:05:36 GMT, ipm@usaor.net (Ian McKinney) wrote:

>On Tue, 21 Jul 1998 14:15:03, "Hansjoerg Walther" 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Ian,
>> 
>> 
>> Ian McKinney  wrote in article
>> ...
>> > Nonsense, I believe this statement was in the article:
>> > 
>> > "...(T)here were 384 `commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15
>> > Chinamen, 22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 
>> > 264 had come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of 
>> > the Imperial Government." (Chief of Staff, Captian Montgomery 
>> > Schuyler, telegram dated June 9, 1919, Vladivostok, reports on the 
>> > make-up of the presiding Soviet government). 
>> > 
>> > Let's see, 300 out of 384 commisars, that's 78%. Pretty amazing 
>> > considering that Jews were only about 2% of the population!
>> 
>> That the assertion is complete bunkum and that this might be related to the
>> fact that this guy was in Vladivostok ("vostok" means "East" in Russian,
>> and Vladivostok is as far East as is possible) is too difficult for you to
>> understand? He would be a more reliable source for what happened in Tokyo
>> than for what was going on in Petrograd or Moscow.
>
>If you read all the telegrams I quoted in the original article, 
>there's one NOT from Vladivostok: 
>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul 
>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet 
>government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
>
>Now, is that close enough to the action?
>
>
> 
>> Just to check this: he seems to be completely unaware that e. g. Georgians
>> (e. g. Stalin, Ordzhonikidze) and Latvians (e. g. Peters, Latsis) were
>> overrepresented in the higher ranks of the Bolshevik party. 
>
>Define "over-represented?"
>
>
>
>
>> He has also
>> missed Poles like Feliks Dzherzinskii, head of the Cheka. You would be hard
>> pressed to name us the 2 negroes or 15 Chinamen or the 22 Armenians. Then
>> tell us who the 264 were who came from America? Of the higher ranks only
>> Trotsky and Bukharin (who was Russian) had been in the US, most others were
>> either in Russia or in different European countries (France, England,
>> Switzerland).
>
>Prove that.
>
>
>> And so on: here are MORE than the alleged 13 Russians in
>> higher positions: Lenin, Bukharin, Kirov, Rykov, Shliapnikov, Molotov,
>> Zalutskii, Larin, Sokolnikov, Podvoiskii, Petrovskii, Nogin, Lunarcharskii,
>> Miliutin, Skvortsov, Oppokov, Avilov, Teodorovich, Ovseenko, Krylenko,
>> Dybenko (although the last three might be Ukrainian names).
>
>A list of names doesn'y impress me. Who identified these people as 
>being part of anything? Besides, you're so loose with your answers. I 
>specifically cited the "Leaders of the Prolotariate" as define by 
>Trotsky and the majority were Jews. I have now produced again two 
>telegrams, one from the Chief of Staff of the US Expeditionary Forces 
>and one from the Counsel General in Moscow who both state clearly that
>Jews made up 78% of the commisars and were very prominant in the 
>Soviet government. Those are two specific claims which you have 
>utterly failed to refute. The best you can do is list a bunch of 
>Russian-sounding gentile names as if that alone disproves all the 
>documentation from dozens of sources I cited. Big deal!
>
> 
>> What more is this than a report by someone who was thousands of miles away
>> from the action, and was obviously completely uninformed (if he is not
>> speaking about some local situation without any relevance to the
>> revolution).
>
>I just gave you one from the Counsel General who was in "the action."
>
>  
>> > Now you can quibble over what defines "the leadership", but I 
>> > just gave you two examples. First, I gave you the small handful that 
>> > Trotsky identified and most of them were obviously Jews. And now I 
>> > have reintroduced a telegram which indicates that 78% of the Bolshevik
>> > commisars were Jews. I'd say that covers it pretty well.
>> 
>> Yeah, it is somewhere between half a dozen and 300 hundred, whatever serves
>> your argument better at any given moment. In the first case, Trotsky seems
>> to be unaware that *STALIN* was part of the leadership, or Dzherzinskii, or
>> people like Bukharin, someone who helped Stalin to oust Trotsky.
>
>At that time Stalin was a relative unknown. Again, we're talking about
>early the Bolsheviks. You keep jumping around from 1917 to 1945 like 
>it means nothing.
>
>> Amazing.
>> Perhaps this is simply a photograph showing A PART of the leadership and
>> not the complete leadership. How could Trotsky forget Stalin in a book on
>> Stalin? At least explain this strange contradiction.
>
>Stalin wasn't one of the top Bolshevik leaders in the teens. Duh!
>
>> No need for that. You're plainly wrong. That applies to your evasions about
>> Rosa Luxemburg (who was OPPOSED to Lenin) or the Mensheviks (who were
>> OPPOSED to the Bolsheviks), etc. How about the Socialists-Revolutionaries
>> (especially the Left SR) who supported the Bolsheviks? Or the Anarchists
>> like Makhno? Too few Jews to be interesting?
>
>I gave you a list of the different factions and their number of 
>delegates. 80% of the delegates were representing groups that had Jews
>in leadership positions. Their respective political posturing and 
>coalitions with one another are irrelavent to the discussion.
>
>Regards,
>Ian McKinney
>Western Imperative Network
>http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/
>----------------------------------------------------------
>The Incomparable Dr. Revilo Oliver
>http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/america
>National Vanguard Books
>http://www.natvan.com/



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On 15 Nov 1998 18:04:06 GMT, philnancy@aol.com (PHILNANCY) wrote:
>In >Message-id: <364f101d.1480139@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>sbjnasson
>wrote:
>>On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 13:45:25 -0600, John Walker
>> wrote:
>>>(See reply below)
>>>sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:49:08 -0700, Milton Wong 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >The Jews are universally disliked. They are hated by people of all
>>>> >non-Jewish nationalities, races and religions. Why is this so?
>>>> >
>>>> >A Jew is defined as a person with Jewish ancestry or Jewish faith. An
>>>> >ethnic Jew who is a follower of a non-Jewish religion is still a Jew.
>>>> >
>>>> >The Jews' physical characteristics, including enormous noses and other
>>>> >repulsive facial features, curly hair, and ape-like body hair, are
>>>> >naturally repulsive to non-Jews. However, this is not the primary reason
>>>> >why Jews are disliked.
>>>> >
>>>> >In my experience, the Jews are in general lying, cheating, slandering,
>>>> >and dishonest. They lack moral integrity, and are probably unable to
>>>> >distinguish right from wrong. They are greedy (for money and for power)
>>>> >and selfish by nature. A piece of advice: never buy a used car from a
>>>> >Jew or Jewish-owned company!
>>>> >
>>>> >Jews will do anything to hurt and destroy anyone who dares to disagree
>>>> >with them.
>>>> >
>>>> >The Jews are stealing $3 billion/year from US taxpayers, and sending it
>>>> >to Israel as foreign aid. Israel neither needs nor deserves any foreign
>>>> >aid.
>>>> >
>>>> >The Jews control the US media and government. This is why US media are
>>>> >more biased in favor of Israel than media anywhere else in the world
>>>> >(except Israel, of course). This is also why the US, as the only country
>>>> >of any significance in the world, continues to support Israel. Whenever
>>>> >the Israeli Jews torture and kill innocent Palestinians, the rest of the
>>>> >world rightly condemns Israel. The United States however always refuses
>>>> >to condemn any wrongdoing by Israel. This is of course not surprising at
>>>> >all. The US government is dominated by and controlled by Jews. The US
>>>> >congress is controlled by the Jewish pro-Israeli lobby. This is why $3
>>>> >billion/year of US taxpayers' money continues to be sent to Israel as
>>>> >foreign aid.
>>>> >
>>>> >The Jews invented communism, which is responsible for the murders of
>>>> >more innocent people than any other political movement. Many leading
>>>> >communists were/are Jews. Not surprisingly, anti-Jewish feelings are
>>>> >strong in Eastern Europe and Russia.
>>>> >
>>>> >The Jews stole the Palestinians' homeland. The way the Jews treat the
>>>> >Palestinians is remarkably similar to how the Nazis allegedly treated
>>>> >the Jews.
>>>> >
>>>> >In my opinion, the Jews have provoked the "anti-semitism" they are
>>>> >always complaining about.
>>>
>>>==== Reply: ===========
>>>Jewish Leadership
>>>------------------
>>>There is an old saying in the world of salesmanship: "Once you have made the
>>>sale, shut up!."
>>>This is what I see to be a major reason for the growing "anti-Semitic"
>>>provocation mentioned above.
>>>The result  is a backlash against a tired old formula which is starting to
>>>lose it's effectiveness. The Jewish problem is that they can't "shut up".
>>>
>>>Everywhere on the Internet we witness Jews promoting Jewish leadership.
>>>Anyone with the
>>>slightest argument against them is accused by Jews of hate. Those refusing
>>to
>>>accept Jewish self promotion and  Jewish leadership  are placed in the
>>unfair
>>>position of being  branded as  hate mongers. The real hate mongers, in this
>>>case, is the Jews.
>>>Intellectual honesty in these debates  is seldom condoned. Rather than an
>>>offering of counter facts,
>>>most often anti Jewish rebuttals are substituted with mere insults which
>>>almost always  include accusations of unfounded hatred against the Jews.
>>>
>>>While Christians, Muslims, and others are busy converting people to their
>>>religion, Jews are busy
>>>promoting people to their Jewish influence. Gaining success in this activity
>>>they are able to form a thought control machine wherein Jewish interests are
>>>to be paramount.  The  very powerful Jewish lobby in the United States of
>>>America is an example of that influence and leadership  which Jews now enjoy
>>>- and it is supported for through the USA gifting of around 3 billion
>>dollars
>>>per year to Israel. Much of that money comes back to haunt us.
>>>
>>>Currently (981025), Jewish influence is testing their level of control by
>>way
>>>of trying to get the Jewish American traitor and super spy, J. Pollard,
>>>released from prison even though Pollard remains a continuing threat to USA
>>>security.. But Israel itself  has betrayed her friendship with the United
>>>States by recruiting Pollard to spy for the Jewish state.  Through such
>>acts,
>>>Israel was able to sell top secret technical information to countries which
>>>act against our security interests.  All of this amounts to even more reason
>>>why so much "anti-Semitism" is generated by the Jews themselves.
>>>
>>>A real friend would not do what Israel has been doing to the United States.
>>>Can any reasonable
>>>USA patriot citizen offer continued loyalty to that country - Israel - which
>>>has betrayed the US more than all others combined?
>>>
>>>The common pro-Jewish argument is that Jews have suffered throughout the
>>ages
>>>and that they must
>>>gain world leadership as a matter of security.  The argument continues to be
>>>strained as we observe
>>>that, more and more, according to the Jews, only Jewish suffering is to have
>>>any real meaning.  Witness the Jewish Holocaust museums where none but the
>>>Jewish victims  are remembered for the carnage's of W.W.II. The over one
>>>hundred million victims of socialist states, since the communist revolution,
>>>don't even make it to most history books.
>>>
>>>I believe I have been objective and honest  in this reply. My message was
>>>more by way of observation than it was of accusation.  Still, I can expect
>>>extreme distortions from Jews all over,  Jews who I have not met, who will
>>>accuse me of hating them.  But, they want me to hate them because that
>>>alleged hate is what motivates Jews more than anything else to fight, ever
>>>more, for their selfish influence in the affairs of our daily lives.
>>>
>>>Jews are the only ones who will tell you that you hate them -
>>>and if  you disagree, they will argue with you until you do.


>This post has nothing to do with the Holocaust, and therefore is off the topic
>of this NG.
>Philip Mathews

On the contrary, the above articles illustrate the perfidy used by the
cursed Christkillers, throughout history.

Further, it illustrates the lengths to which the JEWS go, in pursuing
their HOLOHOAX.


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On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:25:45 GMT, sbjarnason@eretz.zhid.org wrote:

>On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:29:22 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>>From Deja News is the attached article,certainly worth further
>>discussion
>>
>>
>>On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 00:41:19 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene
>>>Holman) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims made
>>>>here.      
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>>>>DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?
>>>>
>>>>        None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>>>>individual "survivors", and no "survivor" claims actually to have
>>>>witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No mounds
>>>>of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing the job,
>>>>no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no records, no
>>>>demographic statistics.
>>>>
>>>>        On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>>>>forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>>>>comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>>>>figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>>>> >I can offer some coins, stamps for collectors/collections, even a
>>>>> >military parachute, as well as Malaysian 22k plated gold jewellery.
>>>
>>>Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
>>>half of the original 600,000 JEWs in Germany were in the German
>>>military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
>>>extort money from gullible governments!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>        2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>>>>RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>>>>WORLD
>>>>WAR TWO?
>>>
>>>>        Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>>>>interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German war
>>>>effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of their
>>>>race or national origin alone.
>>>
>>>>        3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>>>>CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
>>>
>>>>        Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>>>>their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>>>>Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist subversion
>>>>during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were highly
>>>>overrepresented in government, commercial, and media positions.
>>>>However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger of
>>>>internment once the war broke out.
>>>
>>>>        On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>>>>Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply because
>>>>the German government had removed Jews from influential positions and
>>>>transferred power back to the German people. The boycott order and the
>>>>Jewish war against Germany were reported in the world print and
>>>>broadcast media of the time. False stories of German "death camps" were
>>>>in fact circulated even before the outbreak of World War Two. Therefore
>>>>the German view of the Jewish people as enemy aliens would seem to have
>>>>been fully justified.
>>>
>>>>        4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>>>>DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
>>>
>>>>        Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>>>>gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
>>>
>>>>        5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS IT
>>>>WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT WAS?
>>>   
>>>>        Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>>>>murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>>>>were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>>>>chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official Holocaust
>>>>lore because it became too difficult to maintain in the face of known
>>>>fact and because Dachau was in the Allied occupation zone where access
>>>>to the camp was too easy and unrestricted. 
>>>
>>>>        En passant, the brief lifespan of the "Dachau death camp"
>>>>version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning of
>>>>the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>>>>noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>>>>official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>>>>Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum. 
>>>
>>>>        6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT
>>>>GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED AT AUSCHWITZ?
>>>
>>>>        No. The "gas chamber" exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz could
>>>>not possibly have been used to carry out executions; it is far too
>>>>small and it is not even airtight. In the 1980s, American expert Fred
>>>>Leuchter, who builds gas chambers for American penal systems, took
>>>>scrapings from the walls of the Auschwitz "gas chamber" for chemical
>>>>analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is
>>>>a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.        
>>>
>>>
>>>Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
>>>1949, long after the war???
>>>
>>>
>>>>        7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN'T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE PURPOSE?
>>>
>>>>        It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>>>>(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in the
>>>>same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>>>>correctional systems throughout the United States today.
>>>
>>>>        8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
>>>
>>>>        Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of hydrocyanic
>>>>gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, including the
>>>>fumigation of lice-infested clothing, the purpose for which it was
>>>>applied at Auschwitz. Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>>>>commonly used and available today.
>>>
>>>>        9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>>>>COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
>>>
>>>>        Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>>>>brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>>>>figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>>>>read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>>>>Hoess' blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>>>>cross examined.
>>>
>>>>        10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA FUMIGATED
>>>>WITH ZYKLON-B?
>>>
>>>>        About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>>>>and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>>>>only are employed.
>>>
>>>>        11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>>>>ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>>>>THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
>>>
>>>>        It can't be explained, because it could not have happened like
>>>>that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered the same fate
>>>>as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
>>>
>>>>        12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>>>>CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>>>>BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN'T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
>>>  
>>>>        Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the six
>>>>million figure as well. 
>>>
>>>>        13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET
>>>>FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE POPE, THE
>>>>VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
>>>>NOT KNOW?
>>>
>>>>        Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>>>>British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>>>>been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>>>>were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a potentially
>>>>powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any contemporary evidence at
>>>>all during the war that such an event was occurring. 
>>>
>>>>        14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>>        About 300,000.
>>>
>>>>        15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
>>>
>>>>        Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>>>>Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably appears
>>>>whenever people are jammed together for long periods without bathing.
>>>>It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. Ironically, if
>>>>the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant purposes, more Jews
>>>>might have survived the concentration camps. Jewish prisoners (as well
>>>>as many others) also died from starvation and lack of medical attention
>>>>towards the end of the war when virtually all rail and road transport
>>>>had come to a standstill due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
>>>
>>>>        16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 300,000
>>>>DIED?
>>>
>>>>        5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>>>>deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>>>>exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>>>>was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>>>>identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>>>>of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>>>>the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a "Holocaust".
>>>
>>>>        17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE "DEATH CAMPS" SAY THEY SAW
>>>>BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD HAVE
>>>>BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
>>>
>>>>        A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>>>>afforded to waste during the Second World War, that's for sure.        
>>>
>>>>        18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
>>>
>>>>        No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by
>>>>flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated in open pits.
>>>>[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>>>>observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>>>>American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely to
>>>>destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in any
>>>>other way in open pits. The Holocaust "experts" who claim otherwise are
>>>>either parroting what they have been told without bothering to check
>>>>their facts, or else they are lying.]
>>>
>>>>        19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>>>>BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A BODY
>>>>ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
>>>
>>>>        About two hours.
>>>
>>>>        20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
>>>
>>>>        To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead from
>>>>typhus and other diseases.
>>>
>>>>        21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN ALL
>>>>THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF
>>>>CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO INCINERATE DURING THE
>>>>ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
>>>
>>>>        About 430,600.
>>>
>>>>        22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
>>>
>>>>        No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>>>>per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>>>>when in heavy operation.
>>>
>>>>        23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>>>>CORPSE?
>>>        
>>>>        After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>>>>time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
>>>
>>>>        24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
>>>
>>>>        That remains to be "explained". Six million bodies would
>>>>produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have been
>>>>no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz are or
>>>>anywhere else in Europe.
>>>
>>>>        25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE AIR,
>>>>SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
>>>
>>>>        No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the immense
>>>>amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the camp, nor do
>>>>they show any evidence of the alleged open pits where the bodies were
>>>>burned.
>>>
>>>>        26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE
>>>>WHOLE "HOLOCAUST" ISSUE?
>>>
>>>>        A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>>>>September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>>>>packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>>>>full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second World
>>>>War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or any of the
>>>>wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust. 
>>>
>>>>        Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war's end, the
>>>>liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of articles
>>>>claiming that the Red Cross was "full of Nazi sympathizers". This
>>>>charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated Jewish
>>>>attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles steadily in
>>>>the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
>>>
>>>>        27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
>>>
>>>>        Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>>>>Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>>>>conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>>>>literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>>>>diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>>>>adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from the
>>>>published text. 
>>>
>>>>        In 1950 Anne Frank's father sued author Meyer Levin, the actual
>>>>writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. A Jewish judge in
>>>>New York ordered the records of the court case sealed for 100 years.
>>>>When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>>>>noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were interpolations
>>>>written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, a writing instrument
>>>>which was not invented until 1950. The original diary was swiftly
>>>>removed from exhibit and whisked away into a safety deposit box in
>>>>Israel. It has never been produced for examination since then despite
>>>>repeated attempts by scholars to view it. 
>>>
>>>>        28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>>>>ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED CORPSES
>>>>AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
>>>
>>>>        Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>>>>Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>>>>Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a "Nazi SS
>>>>man" about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>>>>of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>>>>historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>>>>the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine. 
>>>
>>>>        (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>>>>atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>>>>remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>>>>the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>>>>laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>>>>be perpetrated by Holocaust "experts" is not surprising in view of the
>>>>fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme left-wing views
>>>>and are as quick to apologize for and explain away Stalin's butcheries
>>>>as they are to invent fraudulent crimes attributed to Adolf Hitler. The
>>>>almost universally leftist political and social orientation of
>>>>Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind when
>>>>examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>>>>important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>>>>the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken McVay's
>>>>refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General Secretary Smith
>>>>asked him why he did not condemn the mass murders of Stalin.)
>>>
>>>>        29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>>>>SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
>>>       
>>>>        Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>>>>predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would certainly
>>>>have been in a position to learn about it. Since no such plan existed,
>>>>the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
>>>
>>>>        30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>>>>EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
>>>
>>>>        None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>>>>deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come to
>>>>light. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>>>>Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering the
>>>>extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis were
>>>>meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were seized
>>>>by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied archivists
>>>>and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them all. Nothing.
>>>>Zip. Nada. 
>>>
>>>>        31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>>        Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>>>>from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>>>>they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>>>>official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>>>>British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>>>>Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>>>>industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that Eichmann
>>>>was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered in order
>>>>to silence him.
>>>
>>>
>>>In Canada there was adetailed story in Toronto Life about the roles of
>>>the Reichman and gestetner families in providing assistance to the
>>>Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public exposure,and
>>>have tried to restrict distribution of this news, which is available
>>>from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
>>>
>>>
>>>>        32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED BY
>>>>THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
>>>
>>>>        Slightly less than four million.
>>>
>>>>        33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE THE
>>>>NAZIS?
>>>
>>>>        Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>>>>kill them.
>>>
>>>>        34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN'T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THEM?
>>>
>>>>        After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>>>>States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 300,000,
>>>>they are all accounted for.
>>>
>>>>        35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>>>>TODAY?
>>>
>>>>        It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>>>>economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>>>>sums of "guilt money", especially from the German government. It
>>>>justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>>>>dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>>>>billion dollars in assorted "Holocaust reparations" and the ante is
>>>>growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>>>>Jewish people to keep the scam going.
>>>
>>>>        36. ARE FILMS LIKE "HOLOCAUST", "SCHINDLER'S LIST", AND "THE
>>>>WINDS OF WAR" DOCUMENTARIES?
>>>
>>>>        Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>>>>They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, not
>>>>real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals of
>>>>events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>>>>screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where Jews
>>>>are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and the
>>>>creative and financial sectors of film making. 
>>>
>>>>        Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>>>>that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>>>>begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, the
>>>>character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in Spielberg's
>>>>production of "Schindler's List" was sanitized to the point of being
>>>>unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost saintly, and yet none
>>>>of those still living who remember the man have a single good word to
>>>>say about him. The real Schindler was a confidence artist, a thief, a
>>>>libertine and degenerate gambler who indulged freely in forced sexual
>>>>relations with young female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>>>>and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>>>>money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>>>>because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and events
>>>>like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with the most
>>>>bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
>>>
>>>>        37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE SOME
>>>>ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>>        Over 100, with more in the works.
>>>
>>>>        38. BUT AREN'T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>>>>ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?
>>>
>>>>        Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>>>>right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>>>>freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>>>>explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>>>>unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>>>>position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>>>>genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>>>>libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>>>>subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>>>>from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
>>>
>>>>        39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>>>>VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>>        A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>>>>always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>>>>Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>>>>called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>>>>hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>>>>express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>>>>from many of the postings to Nizkor's Internet playgroups that they
>>>>have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>>>>Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>>>>ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>>>>cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
>>>
>>>>        The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>>>>hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>>>>giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those who
>>>>ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the Holocaust
>>>>are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned. 
>>>
>>>>        Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>>>>him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>>>>Revisionist bookseller's offices were burned, and in Toronto
>>>>Revisionist author Ernst Zundel's home was almost destroyed in an arson
>>>>attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of show trials lasting
>>>>over ten years, and after being finally acquitted he has been denied
>>>>Canadian citizenship and is still battling attempts to deport him to
>>>>prison and torture in Germany. 
>>>
>>>>        An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>>>>kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>>>>lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the "crime" of writing
>>>>pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>>>>legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>>>>abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>>>>only after an international outcry. Schmidt's "crime" was writing a
>>>>pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>>>>distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder has
>>>>been imprisoned so many times he's lost count. Revisionists have been
>>>>stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure in universities,
>>>>victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs in the mail, and
>>>>subjected to constant death threats from Jews and Marxists.
>>>
>>>>        THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent people
>>>>who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by trying to kill,
>>>>imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. More than anything else,
>>>>the behavior of the Jews and the governments they influence so strongly
>>>>proves that the Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>>>>neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>>>>silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people who
>>>>believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults and
>>>>torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the part of
>>>>the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have imposed the
>>>>most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of humanity, and have
>>>>used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, steal another people's
>>>>country, and then to slaughter that country's original inhabitants at
>>>>will, as according to National Public Radio they are doing even now as
>>>>I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
>>>
>>>>        40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>>>>REVISIONISTS?
>>>
>>>>        No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than ever
>>>>to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the earth
>>>>understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded them, and
>>>>robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust lie. There
>>>>can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the Holocaust will
>>>>be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at large for what
>>>>it is: a politically inspired hoax.
>>>
>>>>NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>>>>pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>>>>information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>>>>ihrgreg@kaiwan.com - W.S.
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>> 
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> 
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>> 
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>> 
>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>> 
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>> 
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>> 
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>> 
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>> 
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>> 
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew> could 
>>> ever have fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>> 
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>> 
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>> 
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>> 
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>> 
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>> 
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>> 
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>> 
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>> 
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>> 
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>> 
>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled - as Fertiliser



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 13:48:50 -0500, "Squid" 
wrote:

>rotten, and anti-Christian the cursed JEWS really are!!!
>(and squid said!)

>sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote in article
><3668b1b3.11613689@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>...
>> On Sat, 31 Oct 1998 01:23:49 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >On Wed, 26 Nov 1997 14:00:33 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>OyVay & NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just do not like for the world to know how
>> >>rotten, and anti-Christian the cursed JEWS really are!!!
>> >>
>> >>In Canada, the damned JEWS even had the Cross removed from the
>> >>cenotaph, for the Remembrance Day ceremonies!!
>> >>
>> >>Article attached.
>> >>
>> >>There has been worldwide revulsion, and complaints about the damned
>> >>JEWS for doing this.
>> >>
>> >>On 26 Nov 1997 04:07:29 GMT, jbellingxx@aol.com (Jbellingxx) wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Why does Nizkor list ISP's on their Web-site for everyone who
>disagrees with
>> >>>their opinions?  Why do they do that?  Why do they list instructions
>on how to
>> >>>mail bomb people who disagree with their opinions-these champions of
>social
>> >>>justice and free speech?  Sing to "Happy days are here again:
>> >>>
>> >>>McCarthy Days are here again
>> >>>The Nizkooks strike but you won't know when
>> >>>get a mail bomb sent from yer old pal Ken
>> >>>Nizkook days are here again
>> >>>
>> >>>They'll publicize your ISP's
>> >>>They'd like to have you on your knees
>> >>>They're busier than a nest of bees
>> >>>Nizkook days are here again
>> >>>
>> >>>protect your precious CD rom
>> >>>Watch out before you are mail bombed
>> >>>
>> >>>They love to put in false complaints
>> >>>Beware of lies the Nizkook paints
>> >>>Within this group one will find no saints
>> >>>Nizkook days are here again....
>> >>>
>> >>>Ach!  I'm a song writer!  Move over, Irving Berlin!
>> >>>Ich bin noch ein Berliner!
>> >
>> >
>> >In Edmonton Canada, JEWS forced the removal of the Cross from the
>> >Cenotaph, commemmorating Remembrance Day.
>> >
>> >Len Dolgoy, past president of the Jewish Federation of Edmonton, and
>> >also the regional representative on the Canadian Jewish Congress,  had
>> >arranged for the removal of the Cross at the Remembrance day
>> >celebrations.
>> >
>> >The Strathcona Legion, represnting victims and their families fielded
>> >many complaints, particularly from war widows and others who had lost
>> >family members.
>> >
>> >
>> >Mind you, the same JEWS do not mind that they will be having a 25 foot
>> >scrap iron menorah cluttering up the lawn in front of the provincial
>> >Parliament Buildings, to supposedly celebrate the JEW holiday of
>> >Hannukah!!!!
>> >
>> >It seems that the JEWs can have their religious symbol in front of the
>> >public, but the Cross, representing the millions of Christians who
>> >died, is not to be permitted!!!!
sven88 - thanks for keeping up reader interest with your profound
observations.



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 20:51:21 +0100, joswig@lavielle.com (Rainer
Joswig) wrote:

>In article <366818c2.3693143@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>,
>sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 01 Oct 1997 15:56:19 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>> 
>> >One MUST question the aspects of the HOLOHOAX, since many governments
>> >may be gullible enough to pay for non-existent JEWS, or even for JEWS
>> >who were in the German military!!!
>> One MUST question the aspects of the HOLOHOAX, since many governments
>> may be gullible enough to pay for non-existent JEWS, or even for JEWS
>> who were in the German military!!!
>> 
>> Every normal person should consider the entire contents, and decide
>> for
>> themselves, whether any JEWS died in WWII.
>
>JEW lies, so they can continue to swindle Christians with their HOLOHOAX....

One MUST question the aspects of the HOLOHOAX, since many governments
may be gullible enough to pay for non-existent JEWS, or even for JEWS
who were in the German military!!!

Every normal person should consider the entire contents, and decide
for
themselves, whether any JEWS died in WWII.




someone@somewhere.com wrote:
 
> On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene
> Holman) wrote: 
> >Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims 
> >made here.



> >1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
> >DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?

> >        None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
> >individual "survivors", and no "survivor" claims actually to have
> >witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No 
> >mounds of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing 
> >the job, no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no 
> >records, no demographic statistics.

> >        On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
> >forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
> >comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
> >figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.

> Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
> half of the original 600,000 JEWS in Germany were in the German
> military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
> extort money from gullible governments!!!
 
> >        2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
> >RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
> >WORLD WAR TWO?
 
> >        Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
> >interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German 
> >war effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of 
> >their race or national origin alone.
 
> >        3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
> >CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
 
> >        Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
> >their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
> >Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist 
> >subversion during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were 
> >highly overrepresented in government, commercial, and media 
> >positions.

> >However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger 
> >of internment once the war broke out.

> >        On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
> >Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply 
> >because the German government had removed Jews from influential 
> >positions and transferred power back to the German people. The 
> >boycott order and the Jewish war against Germany were reported in 
> >the world print and broadcast media of the time. False stories of 
> >German "death camps" were in fact circulated even before the outbreak 
> >of World War Two. Therefore the German view of the Jewish people 
> >as enemy aliens would seem to have been fully justified.
 
> >        4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
> >DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
 
> >        Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
> >gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
 
> >        5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS 
> >IT WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT 
> >WAS?

> >        Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
> >murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
> >were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
> >chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official 
> >Holocaust lore because it became too difficult to maintain in 
> >the face of known fact and because Dachau was in the Allied 
> >occupation zone where access to the camp was too 
> >easy and unrestricted.
 
> >        En passant, the brief lifespan of the "Dachau death camp"
> >version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning 
> >of the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
> >noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
> >official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
> >Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum.
 
> >        6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF 
> >THAT GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED 
> >AT AUSCHWITZ?
 
> >        No. The "gas chamber" exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz 
> >could not possibly have been used to carry out executions; 
> >it is far too small and it is not even airtight. 
> >In the 1980s, American expert Fred Leuchter, who builds gas chambers 
> >for American penal systems, took scrapings from the walls 
> >of the Auschwitz "gas chamber" for chemical
> >analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit 
> >is a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.
 
> Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
> 1949, long after the war???

> >        7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN'T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE 
> >PURPOSE?
 
> >        It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
> >(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in 
> >the same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
> >correctional systems throughout the United States today.
 
> >        8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
 
> >        Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of 
> >hydrocyanic gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, 
> >including the fumigation of lice-infested clothing, 
> >the purpose for which it was applied at Auschwitz. 
> >Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
> >commonly used and available today.
 
> >        9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
> >COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
 
> >        Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
> >brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
> >figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
> >read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
> >Hoess' blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
> >cross examined.
 
> >        10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA 
> >FUMIGATED WITH ZYKLON-B?
 
> >        About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
> >and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
> >only are employed.
 
> >        11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
> >ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
> >THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
 
> >        It can't be explained, because it could not have happened 
> >like that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered 
> >the same fate as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
 
> >        12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
> >CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
> >BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN'T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
 
> >        Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the 
> >six million figure as well.
 
> >        13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT 
> >SECRET FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE 
> >POPE, THE VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND 
> >ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE NOT KNOW?
 
> >        Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
> >British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
> >been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
> >were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a 
> >potentially powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any 
> >contemporary evidence at all during the war that such an event was 
> >occurring.

> >        14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
> >DURING THE WAR?
 
> >        About 300,000.
 
> >        15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
 
> >        Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
> >Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably 
> >appears whenever people are jammed together for long periods 
> >without bathing.It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. 
> >Ironically, if the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant 
> >purposes, more Jews  might have survived the concentration camps. 
> >Jewish prisoners (as well as many others) also died from starvation 
> >and lack of medical attention towards the end of the war 
> >when virtually all rail and road transport had come to a standstill 
> >due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
 
> >        16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 
> >300,000 DIED?

> >        5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
> >deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
> >exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
> >was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
> >identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
> >of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
> >the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a "Holocaust".
 
> >        17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE "DEATH CAMPS" SAY THEY SAW
> >BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD 
> >HAVE BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
 
> >        A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
> >afforded to waste during the Second World War, that's for sure.
 
> >        18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
 
> >        No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed 
> >by flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated 
> >in open pits.
> >[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
> >observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
> >American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely 
> >to destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in 
> >any other way in open pits. The Holocaust "experts" who claim 
> >otherwise are either parroting what they have been told without 
> >bothering to check their facts, or else they are lying.]

> >        19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
> >BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A 
> >BODY ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
 
> >        About two hours.
 
> >        20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
 
> >        To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead 
> >from typhus and other diseases.
 
> >        21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN 
> >ALL THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE 
> >MAXIMUM NUMBER OF CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO 
> >INCINERATE DURING THE ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
 
> >        About 430,600.
 
> >        22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
 
> >        No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
> >per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
> >when in heavy operation.
 
> >        23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
> >CORPSE?
 
> >        After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
> >time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
 
> >        24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
> >HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
 
> >        That remains to be "explained". Six million bodies would
> >produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have 
> >been no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz 
> >area or anywhere else in Europe.
 
> >        25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE 
> >AIR, SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
 
> >        No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the 
> >immense amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the 
> >camp, nor do they show any evidence of the alleged open 
> >pits where the bodies were burned.
 
> >        26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT 
> >THE WHOLE "HOLOCAUST" ISSUE?
 
> >        A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
> >September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
> >packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
> >full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second 
> >World War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or 
> >any of the wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust.
 
> >        Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war's end, the
> >liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of 
> >articles claiming that the Red Cross was "full of Nazi sympathizers". 
> >This charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated 
> >Jewish attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles 
> >steadily in the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
 
> >        27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
 
> >        Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
> >Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
> >conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
> >literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
> >diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
> >adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from 
> >the published text.
>
> >        In 1950 Anne Frank's father sued author Meyer Levin, the 
> >actual writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. 
> >A Jewish judge in New York ordered the records of the court case 
> >sealed for 100 years.
> >When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
> >noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were 
> >interpolations written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, 
> >a writing instrument which was not invented until 1950. The original 
> >diary was swiftly removed from exhibit and whisked away 
> >into a safety deposit box inIsrael. It has never been produced for 
> >examination since then despite repeated attempts by scholars to view 
> >it.
 
> >        28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
> >ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED 
> >CORPSES AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
 
> >        Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
> >Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
> >Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a "Nazi SS
> >man" about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
> >of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
> >historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
> >the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine.
 
> >        (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
> >atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
> >remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
> >the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
> >laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
> >be perpetrated by Holocaust "experts" is not surprising in view of 
> >the fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme 
> >left-wing views and are as quick to apologize for and explain 
> >away Stalin's butcheries as they are to invent fraudulent crimes 
> >attributed to Adolf Hitler. The almost universally leftist 
> >political and social orientation of
> >Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind 
> >when examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
> >important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
> >the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken 
> >McVay's refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General 
> >Secretary Smith asked him why he did not condemn the 
> >mass murders of Stalin.)
 
> >        29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
> >SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
 
> >        Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
> >predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would 
> >certainlyhave been in a position to learn about it. Since no such 
> >plan existed,the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
 
> >        30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
> >EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
 
> >        None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
> >deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come 
> >tolight. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
> >Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering  
> >the extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis 
> >were meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were 
> >seized by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied 
> >archivists and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them 
> >all. Nothing. Zip. Nada.

> >        31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
> >DURING THE WAR?
 
> >        Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
> >from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
> >they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
> >official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
> >British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
> >Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
> >industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that 
> >Eichmann was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered 
> >in order to silence him.
 

> In Canada there was a detailed story in Toronto Life magazine about the 
> roles  of the Reichman and Gestetner families in providing assistance 
> to the Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public 
> exposure,and have tried to restrict distribution of this news, 
> which is available from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
 


> >        32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED 
> >BY THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
 
> >        Slightly less than four million.
 
> >        33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE 
> >THE NAZIS?
 
> >        Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
> >kill them.
 
> >        34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN'T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
> >HAPPENED TO THEM?
 
> >        After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
> >States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 
> >300,000, they are all accounted for.
 
> >        35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
> >TODAY?

> >        It shields them from any criticism over their political,
> >economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
> >sums of "guilt money", especially from the German government. It
> >justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
> >dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
> >billion dollars in assorted "Holocaust reparations" and the ante is
> >growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
> >Jewish people to keep the scam going.
 
> >        36. ARE FILMS LIKE "HOLOCAUST", "SCHINDLER'S LIST", AND "THE
> >WINDS OF WAR" DOCUMENTARIES?
 
> >        Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
> >They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, 
> >not real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals 
> >of events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
> >screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where 
> >Jews are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and 
> >the creative and financial sectors of film making.
 
> >        Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
> >that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
> >begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, 
> >the character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in 
> >Spielberg's production of "Schindler's List" was sanitized to the 
> >point of being unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost 
> >saintly,  and yet none of those still living who remember 
> >the man have a single good word to say about him. The real Schindler 
> >was a confidence artist, a thief, a libertine and degenerate gambler 
> >who indulged freely in forced sexual relations with young 
> >female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
> >and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
> >money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
> >because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and 
> >events like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with 
> >the most bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
 
> >        37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE 
> >SOME ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
 
> >        Over 100, with more in the works.
 
> >        38. BUT AREN'T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
> >ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?

> >        Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
> >right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
> >freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
> >explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
> >unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
> >position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
> >genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
> >libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
> >subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
> >from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
 
> >        39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
> >VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?

> >        A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
> >always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
> >Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
> >called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
> >hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
> >express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
> >from many of the postings to Nizkor's Internet playgroups that they
> >have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
> >Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
> >ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
> >cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
 
> >        The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
> >hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
> >giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those 
> >who ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the 
> >Holocaust are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned.
 
> >        Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
> >him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
> >Revisionist bookseller's offices were burned, and in Toronto
> >Revisionist author Ernst Zundel's home was almost destroyed in an 
> >arson attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of 
> >show trials lasting over ten years, and after being finally acquitted 
> >he has been denied Canadian citizenship and is still battling 
> >attempts  to deport him to prison and torture in Germany.

> >        An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
> >kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
> >lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the "crime" of writing
> >pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
> >legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
> >abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
> >only after an international outcry. Schmidt's "crime" was writing a
> >pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
> >distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder 
> >has been imprisoned so many times he's lost count. Revisionists 
> >have been stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure 
> >in universities, victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs 
> >in the mail, and subjected to constant death threats 
> >from Jews and Marxists.

> >        THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent 
> >people who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by 
> >trying to kill, imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. 
> >More than anything else, the behavior of the Jews and the 
> >governments they influence so strongly proves that the 
> >Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
> >neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
> >silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people 
> >who believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults 
> >and torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the 
> >part of the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have 
> >imposed the most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of 
> >humanity, and have used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, 
> >steal another people's country, and then to slaughter that country's 
> >original inhabitants at will, as according to National Public Radio 
> >they are doing even now as I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
 
> >        40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
> >REVISIONISTS?
 
> >        No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than 
> >ever to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the 
> >earth understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded 
> >them, and robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust 
> >lie. There can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the
> >Holocaust will be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at 
> >large for what it is: a politically inspired hoax.
 
> >NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
> >pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
> >information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
> >ihrgreg@kaiwan.com - W.S.


 
One MUST question the validity of the EXTORTION on gullible
governments
by the damn JEWS for alleged compensation.



If half of the German JEWS were in the German military, as the
attached
article documents, why give them any money??
 
---------- Forwarded message ----------
 Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
 From: stefan lemieszewski 
 Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
 
 From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
 that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
 ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals.
One
 group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
 
 The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in
England
 titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
 appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would
like
 to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
 Stefan Lemieszewski
 

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
 North Shore News
 February 2, 1997
 
 Insights from abroad
 Doug Collins
 
 TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
 that is ignored in Canada.
 
 When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
 served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
 
 The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two
pages
 about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
 
 There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of
whom
 was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
 transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
 
 At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
 married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five
major
 generals, and 23 colonels.
 
 Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
 Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
 more. The research is continuing.
 
 Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied
France
 in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
 alive.
 
 Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
 father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
 
 Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
 whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
 
 A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked
in
 the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
 
 The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
 Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews
and
 he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long
investigation
 and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
 documents in the process.
 
 The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed
that
 Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew>
could 
 ever have fought for Hitler.
 
 A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
 the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
 
 He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
 about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
 ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
 
 Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may
be
 used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers
of
 Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
 what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
 
 British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into
an
 international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who
can
 produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of
the
 Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
 
 Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor
Helmut
 Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
 was a Jew.
 
 Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
 
 As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
 full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or
even
 one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
 
 But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
 Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was
Jewish.
 
 As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom
he
 knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced
to a
 term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
 
 A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
 
 After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and
obtained,
 the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox
Lubavitcher
 Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
 Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944
for
 plotting against Hitler.
 
 The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via
Latvia,
 and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a
Jew
 and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler
saw
 to it that he was discharged from the army.
 
 All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
 able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time
magazine. I
 wonder why?
 
 ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and
the
 right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published
in
 the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
 necessarily those of the newspaper itself.


>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
sven88


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On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 14:57:10 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Oct 1997 01:26:54 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
>Tavish) wrote:
>
>>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>and activating their  accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>up and kill Jews."
>>
>>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>>
>>"Individual revolutionary leaders and Sverdlov -- played a conspicuous
>>part in the revolution of November, 1917,  which enabled the
>>Bolshevists to take possession of the state apparatus" (Univ. Jew.
>>Encyd., Vol. IX, p.668). Here and there in the Universal Jewish
>>Encyclopedia other Jews are named as co-founders of Russian 
>>Communism, but not Lenin and Stalin. Both of these, however, 
>>are said by some writers to be half-Jewish. Whatever the racial
>>antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet commissariats were 
>>largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in the Communist
>>movement was well understood in Russia. "The White Armies which
>>opposed the Bolsehvik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks 
>>as common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>
>>The Ukrainians were part of the White Army (Gentile) that
>>opposed the Red Army (loyal to Jewish Commissariats).
>>



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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 01:01:49 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>
>>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>>question how many may have died in WWII!!!
>>
>>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!
>>
>>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>>involved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, vagabond@idirect.com (William
>>Markiewicz) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at.  See the
>>>Communication Page, August 97 issue 
>>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>>
>>sperati wrote:
>>> 
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>> 
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> 
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>> 
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>> 
>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>> 
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>> 
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>> 
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>> 
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>> 
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>> 
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>> 
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>> 
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>> 
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>> 
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>> 
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>> 
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>> 
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>> 
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>> 
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>> 
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>> 
>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>
>>
>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!



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On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:22 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:13:12 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On 02 May 1998 16:44:09 GMT, panjanusz@aol.com (Pan Janusz) wrote:
>>
>>>Translated from Polish:
>>
>>>Reprinted from "Polish Weekly"  published in Australia.
>>
>>>Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued the extradition papers
>>>for war criminal Samuel Morel. Polish authorities will ask authorities in
>>>Israel to extradite Morel.
>>>Morel is accused of "cruel treatment and tortures of prisoners and jeopardizing
>>>their safety and health." Using common language, between years 1945-1950 he was
>>>beating prisoners, torturing and killing them.
>>
>>>Morel was born in 1919, from 1940 was a member of Jewish band which was
>>>assaulting Polish villages in province of Kielce and robbing Polish farmers. In
>>>December of 1942 during one of their assaults the band was destroyed by a
>>>detachment of People's Army ( communist guerillas in nazi occupied Poland).
>>>Father and brother of Morel were executed, he alone became a member of the
>>>People's Army. He defected from the group when Red Army was inching toward
>>>province of Kielce and became a member of Soviet guerillas.
>>>Soon he became an officer of UB (communist Security Office in Soviet occupied
>>>Poland).
>>>In the beginning of 1945 he was sent to the region of Silesia and received the
>>>nomination on the camp commandant for Germans in Swietochlowice.
>>> About his crime committed in this camp wrote, among others, an American
>>>journalist John Sack in his book "Eye for an eye" ( for this book John Sack who
>>>is a Jew was decalred an antisemite).
>>>In the end of December of 1945 Morel had been transferred and became a warden
>>>of the UB prison in Opole. There he tortured Poles and Germans. He also
>>>tortured minors in the labor camp in Jaworzno which he was a commandant between
>>>1946-1950. He was fired from this post, for mortality among prisoners was too
>>>big. 
>>
>>>In 1991 he was interviewed by a prosecutor, panicked and fled to Israel.
>>>After spending all his money, within few months he returned to Poland, but soon
>>>he surfaced in Sweden where he demanded political asylum argumenting that he
>>>was persecuted in Poland because he was a Jew. His plea was rejected and Morel
>>>again came back to Poland. 
>>>On 10th of July Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued arrest
>>>warrant. They were late. Morel again fled to Israel.
>>>His retirement pention is being picked up by the wife of the criminal.
>>>Since 1996 Morel is on the most wanted list of the INTERPOL.
>>>According to international law he should be arrested by Israeli police and
>>>charged by Israel with war crimes.
>>>He should.....
>>
>>>Translated by Janusz Styber
>>



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On Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:40:16 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>25,700 Polish soldiers were murdered at KATYN by the JEW-led KGB
>Soviets, not 3,000 which the Jew apologists claim.
>
>They were murdered at a time when the Soviets were supposed allies of
>the anti-Germans.
>
>Why should you trust JEWS, and their interference in Polish affairs at
>Oswiecim?
>
>
>On 29 Oct 1998 00:26:43 GMT, ru8xx@aol.com (RU8xx) wrote:
>
>>Igal wrote:
>>
>>>Recently, I have found in one book about Stalin’s time, that in Katin' were
>>>killed about 3000 polish solders and officers. As I remember German killed
>>>only in 1940 not less then 40 000 polish captured solders in death camps.
>>>Ratio is 1:10 (or more). If considering information is true, why Katin' is
>>>important for W.W.II? 3000 solders and officers is not significant number for
>>>W.W.II.
>>>
>>>Look like somebody try to flame anti-Russian propaganda for own political
>>>purposes.
>>>
>>>If I am wrong - please explain me reasonable.
>>
>>Igal,
>>I think you are wrong.
>>Find simply the basic information on the internet.
>>The first one I've find / http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/1791/:
>>
>>"Katyn Forest is a wooded area near Gneizdovo village, a short distance from
>>Smolensk in Russia where, in early 1940, the NKVD, on Stalin's orders shot and
>>buried over 4000 Polish service personnel that had been taken prisoner when the
>>Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939 in support of the Nazis. 
>>
>>In 1943 the Nazis exhumed the Polish dead and blamed the Soviets. In 1944,
>>having retaken the Katyn area from the Nazis, the Soviets exhumed the Polish
>>dead again and blamed the Nazis. The rest of the world took its usual sides in
>>such arguments. 
>>
>>In 1989, with the collapse of Soviet Power, Premier Gorbachev finally admitted
>>that the Soviet NKVD had executed the Poles, and confirmed two other burial
>>sites similar to the site at Katyn. Stalin's order of March 1940 to execute by
>>shooting some 25,700 Poles, including those found at the three sites, was also
>>disclosed with the collapse of Soviet Power. This particular slaughter of Poles
>>is often referred to as the "Katyn Massacre". 
>>
>>(...)
>>
>>.............................................
>>                                                                          
>>                                                                          
>>            Pawel Jedrzejewski           RU8xx@aol.com



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On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 16:46:32 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:

>One MUST question the alleged figure of the damn JEWS as to how many
>allegedly died in WWII.
>
>If there were half the JEWS of Germany in the German military, according
>to documentation, and only 10,000 supposedly died, that sure is a far
>cry from the figures used by the JEWs to extort money from many
>countries!!!
>
>No wonder so many people in many nations are starting to disbelieve the
>LIES of the JEWS!!!!
>
>
>
>
>tom moran wrote:
>
>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>> >> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>> >> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>> 
>> >> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>> >> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>> >> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>> >> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>> 
>> >> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>> >> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>> 
>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> North Shore News
>> >> February 2, 1997
>> >>
>> >> Insights from abroad
>> >> Doug Collins
>> >>
>> >> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>> >> that is ignored in Canada.
>> 
>> 
>> >> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>> >> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>> >> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>> >> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>> >> wonder why?
>> 
>>         Actually Riggs 'study' was reported in the L.A.Times and in some
>> Texas papers were he is from. To set and maintain the record, here is
>> a report on the L.A.Times version posted to alt.revisionism at the
>> time. The reason it found it's way into so many papers is because the
>> subject is supposed to portray the Jews as awesome. Rigg's study is
>> more the result of fantasy than academic research. It was said he
>> might write a book or something, but then don't count on it. It would
>> expose his stuff to verification and he (they) are relying on people
>> holding the notions from what was in the papers.
>> 
>>                       "The Jews in Hitler's Military"
>>                        L.A.Times, Dec. 24, 1996
>> 
>> "A young American is
>> documenting the stories
>> of Hundreds of German
>> veterans of Jewish descent.
>> Many lost family to the
>> Holocaust while serving the
>> Nazi regime."
>> 
>> LONDON--"Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>> mission, American Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no
>> man's land of Holocaust history.
>>         Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish descent ... who
>> served ...during the Holocaust, when the Nazis slaughtered 6 million
>> Jews.
>>         'Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the
>> Nazis called 'full Jews' served in the military but at the same time
>> exterminated their families.'
>>         On a heady journey of personal and professional discovery, the 25
>> year old Texan ... interviewed more than 300 of these veterans ...
>> Passed along from one old soldier to another, he has crisscrossed
>> Germany 4 times ...
>>         Rigg said he has documented the Jewish ancestry of more than 1200
>> of Hilter's soldiers including two field marshalls and 10 generals,
>> men commanding up to 100,000, ..."
>> 
>> [ That and the next line is the beginning of the real motive for the
>> story and why it would find it's way into the L.A.Times, the Judeo
>> supremacy publication. ]
>> 
>> "In about 20 cases, soldiers of Jewish heritage were awarded the
>> Knight's Cross, Germany's highest honor, he said."
>> 
>>         "This fall, Rigg, Yale '96, arrived at England Cambridge
>> University ... lugging his clothes ... documentation ... Jonathan
>> Steinberg, Cambridge historian, read Rigg's files and hurried to find
>> a safe place for them.
>> 
>> [[ Here we have a Jewish holding to the papers as dear. This would
>> indicate he thought they had something beneficial. ]]
>> 
>>         Along the way, Rigg, who is of German extraction and was raised
>> as a Protestant, has discovered that he too has Jewish ancestry. Like
>> many of the families he has visited, Rigg had distant relatives who
>> were killed for being Jewish--and others who died fighting in battle
>> for Nazi Germany."
>> 
>> [ I would say if Rigg's was confronted with a demand to stand
>> accountable to show his Jewish ancestry and to prove any events they
>> lived through it would result in some real embarrassment. Its all too
>> pat.
>> 
>> One of the more obvious points of this article reveals the racial
>> aspect of Judaism. ]
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>         The article being more than a half page long I will just cite the
>> relevant parts that throw suspicion on the accounts, the racist
>> connection and the reason it found it's way into the L.A.Times - to
>> hype Jewish supremacy.
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>>         "Many of the men Rigg meets cling to Nazi terminology, describing
>> themselves as half Jewish, half German."
>> 
>> [ Here we have the term "half Jewish" being designated "Nazi
>> terminology" when in fact it is a term used by Jews themselves and has
>> been referred to many times in medias and even movies. Not to mention
>> it is used to designate the racial status of any one else, 'half
>> Black', 'half Irish', etc.
>> 
>> The article does not lead to any evidential conclusion that any of the
>> Germans are half Jewish. It seems more like they would be quarter or
>> even eighth Jewish. ]
>> 
>>         "One of his discoveries was a 1944 German document listing 77
>> high ranking officers 'of mixed Jewish race or married to a Jew'. Two
>> generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals and 23
>> colonels."
>> 
>> [ It doesn't say how many were of "Jewish race" or how many were those
>> who were connected by marriage so we are to assume all of them. ]
>> 
>>         "'I don't think it ever occurred to go to a general's personal
>> file to see if he was Jewish', said Steinberg".
>> 
>> [ Not bothering to consider the ones that were just married to a Jew.]
>> 
>>         "... Hitler loathed Jews, but he also needed experienced
>> commanders and fighters".
>> 
>> [ So under the circumstances, there just wasn't enough to draw from
>> the measly German genetic stock for "experienced" "commanders" and
>> "fighters". ]
>> 
>>         "He (Rigg's) said there were at least a dozen exception lists
>> approved by Hitler--naming ranking officials not only in the armed
>> forces but in the civilian administration that worked with military.
>> One German civilian of Jewish heritage ..."
>> 
>> [ "One ,,,"  "German civilian" of "Jewish heritage"? ]
>> 
>>         ....
>> 
>>         "In interviews and research in Germany this month, Rigg found
>> still more Wehrmacht officers of Jewish descent ..."
>> 
>> [ More "officers" of Jewish "decent".  Another thing that is evident
>> in the article is glorifying Jewish descent as if it was the only
>> descent of value to speak of. We can take note that the ones found on
>> the list are "officers". ]
>> 
>>         ....
>> 
>>         "One Knight's Cross winner was reunited with his Jewish father in
>> England ..."
>> 
>> [ This is the first of three or four times the article mentions
>> "Jewish father". No where does it mention a Jewish mother, which is a
>> necessary technicality in the Jewish race to be rated a Jew. In fact
>> the only name mentioned in the whole article as being high ranking is
>> Field Marshall Erhard Milch, who had a Jewish father".]
>> 
>>         "Rigg also brought to light to folklore surrounding the
>> derring-do rescue ... Rigg has identified him as bayonet scarred,
>> bemedaled, Maj. Ernst Bloch ... whose father was Jewish."
>> 
>> [ The significance here of course is the "... derring-do ... Jewish
>> father" connection.]
>> 
>>         ....
>> 
>>         "About 100,000 Jews served in the German army in World War I, and
>> about 12,000 of them were killed."
>> 
>>         [ Now here would be very good place to start to look into Rigg's
>> project. Here we have "100,000" Jews said to have served in the German
>> army during World War I whereas Holocaust accounts have it that only
>> 300,000 Jews, all together, were in Germany prior to World War II.
>> Considering the age, sex aspect of any particular people, we would
>> have to recognize that if there were 100,000 German Jews fighting in
>> WWII there would be at least a million in all. It is so typical with
>> Holocaust/Jewish propaganda to have their facts and figures step all
>> over each other. Whatever, this is a real blunder. ]
>> 
>>         (The WWI) "...Veterans thought their service would protect them
>> against the Nazi crackdown ... When the transports came ... Some even
>> went to the gas chamber with their medals on."
>> 
>> [ Okay, we see again we have a heroic lot here with "medals". How
>> Rigg's came to find out how any of them went to the gas chambers, much
>> less with their medals on should be very interesting. Especially since
>> he says "some". If he had said 'one' this is something we could accept
>> as being in the realm of a possibility, but with the "some", well too
>> wayout. This is another one of those wacky yarns like all the rest of
>> the Holocaust eyewitness testimonies, which we must assume would be
>> the source for Rigg's blurt.
>> 
>> Since Holocaust accounts have the people were made to strip naked, we
>> can muse over how the heroic Jews came to still have their medals on.
>> 
>> How did Riggs come to get involved with the project? ]]
>> 
>>         "Rigg's quest began at Yale, when he started researching his
>> family history in Germany. First he learned that his
>> great-grandparents, who arrived as Protestants, had been born in
>> Germany as Jews."
>> 
>> [ Since then he has focused his identity on the two Jews from a
>> hundred years ago, and nothing in between seems to matter. Is it fact?
>> Who knows. ]
>> 
>>         "Then one night in 1992, he went to see 'Europa, Europa', a film
>> about a Jewish adolescent who hid out in the German army during World
>> War II. After the movie, Rigg's struck a conversation with an elderly
>> German Jew... and he listened until morning"
>> 
>> [ Now there we have a revealing particular of how he came to be
>> involved. The old man stayed up all night? ]
>> 
>>         So far it seems Rigg's has not written a book on the subject or
>> released any details of his story, so the world will have to wait
>> before anyone can go over the routes of his research. And perhaps
>> there may never be any. There are just to many problems to cover up
>> with this latest bravado.
>> 
>>         On top of it all the Judeo/Holocaust propaganda is further
>> compromised when trying to fit all the talk about "Jewish", "field
>> marshalls", "generals" and medal winners in with something like Daniel
>> Goldhagen's book, 'Ordinary Germans, Hitler's Willing Executioners"
>> which strives to show all the Germans, and especially high ranking
>> military people knew about and willingly contributed to the
>> exterminations of millions of Jews.
>
>>         In another twist, this article and thus Rigg's, seem to strive to
>> show and glorify Jews by claiming high position and heroic
>> accomplishment in the very German machine the Holocaust story works so
>> hard at portraying as evil.



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On Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:33:01 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Thu, 08 Oct 1998 18:34:25 GMT, sbjarnason@heimat.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>>On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:26:44 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>On 13 Sep 1998 07:18:24 GMT, "William Hubbard" 
>>>wrote:
>>
>>>>Strakitch tye golevo!
>>
>>>Should be shta allah aboukir!!!
>>
>>>>bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote in article
>>>><35ff8fb8.1840244@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>...
>>>>> On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:15:29 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote: 
>>>>> >On 25 Jun 1998 20:41:51 GMT, "Fenian" < fenian@hibernian.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>morgan@shamrock.com wrote in article
>>>><35995802.2904819@news.nucleus.com>...
>>>>> >>> On 24 Jun 1998 23:39:44 GMT, bushbadee@aol.com (BUSHBADEE) wrote:
>>
>>>>> >>> >>> Shouldn't the spelling be KHAZIR, meaning swine???
>>>>> >>> >>> After all, the Christkillers are lower than the feces of the swine???
>>
>>>>> >>> >I have many christian friend and I object to you calling them lower than
>>>>> >>> >the feces of swine.
>>
>>>>> >>> It is not the Christians that are the Christkillers.
>>>>> >>> Read your Bible, or have your friend read it to you, about the foul
>>>>> >>> Sanhedrin JEWS, who arranged for the murder of Jesus Christ!!!
>>
>>>>> >>> Christ opposed their usury and other financial crimes, being conducted
>>>>> >>> in the Temples.
>>



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On Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:44:20 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:

>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>
>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
> wrote:
>
>>dddddddddd
>>below, Hermie's cyberthrash
>>-------------
>>md
>>
>>greatdane@mindspring.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>> 
>>> More Pawlikowski apologies for Nazi behavior!
>>> > ============
>>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
>>> > Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
>>> > occupation of Poland.  The only reason for this question at this time
>>> > seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provacatively, Dr.
>>> > Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
>>> > draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
>>> > after the war?  Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>>> >
>>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres.
>>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
>>> > hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
>>> > grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitted
>>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem.  However,
>>> > young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
>>> > afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
>>> > find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
>>> > presently in Lithuania.
>>> >
>>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
>>> > occupation was  dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
>>> > were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>>> > They were ususally not armed,
>>> 
>>> Pawlikowski will have you believe that the German occupation police in
>>> Minsk were unarmed!!!!!!
>>> 
>>> > and when armed never given more than five
>>> > bullets for their long rifles.  Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
>>> > each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>>> > the genocide.
>>> 
>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.
>>> 
>>> > On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>>> > service was completely voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The social background of these
>>> > Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>>> > post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>>> > education.  These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>>> >
>>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>>> > Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>>> > of his book.  In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>>> > journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>>> > from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>>> > closed.
>>> 
>>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>>> longer or die now!
>>> 
>>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>>> ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next "relocation"!
>>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>>> > intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>>> >
>>> > Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>>> > description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>>> > Lodz.  German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>>> > Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>>> > three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>>> > Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>>> >
>>> > -------------
>>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>>> >
>>> > We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
>>> > graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki.  We found
>>> > ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
>>> > dozens of other places.  Why you shrink from searching for your
>>> > ancestors, Dr Ilicki?
>>> >
>>> Does there any normal healthy human being want to see the corpses of
>>> your loved ones excavated? Maybe Pawlikowski would enjoy watching the
>>> bones of his or her mother exhumed to count the bones as they demand of
>>> other people.
>>> 
>>> Herman
>>> > ------------



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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:28:11 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:01:08 -0600, Ed Kadach 
>wrote:
>
>>>Hitler's Jewish Army
>>>
>>>"Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim." --Elie Wiesel
>>>speaking of World War Two.
>>>
>>>"If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing what
>>>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>>>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>>>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>>
>>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>>>'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf
>>>Hitler's knowledge and approval.
>>>
>>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including
>>>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>>>lieutenant generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to
>>>100,000 troops."
>>>
>>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>>>Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's
>>>Cross.
>>>
>>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>>>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>>
>>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish
>>>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>>
>>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>>>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew
>>>and who is an Aryan.''
>>>
>>>Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>>>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>>
>>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>>>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>>>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>>>
>>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>>>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards
>>>(kapos).
>>>
>>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>>>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>>>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>>
>>>Sources:
>>>
>>>William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>>
>>>Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>>
>>>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.



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On Fri, 01 May 1998 14:06:39 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>Interesting artcile from Deja News.
>If true, why no legal action??
>
>>From - Tue Sep 23 12:47:40 1997
>>Return-path: 
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>>From: NSWPP-CSU 
>>Subject: Jewish Mafia Controls Ukrainian Media
>
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>Jewish Mafia Takes Over Ukrainian and E. European Television----------
>
>According to an article in the April 5, 1997 N.Y. Times, "TV Venture
>by Cosmetics Heir Raises Questions," Zionist mogul and former U.S.
>ambassador to Austria Ronald Lauder, has united with Vadim Rabinovich,
>a Ukrainian millionaire who spent nine years in prison for theft and
>has ties to the Jewish mafia in Ukraine, to build a media
>empire--Central European Media
>Enterprises-- in the countries of the former Soviet Union.
>
>The Jewish owned Central European Media controls television stations
>in seven East European countries in the region. Ukrainian TV is
>controlled by its subsidiary, the Studio 11 Group, its local partner
>in Kiev.
>
>Rabinovich is linked to Grigory Loutchansky, a Russian-Jew, whose
>company, Nordex, is believed to be a front for the Russian-Jewish
>mafia.
>
>The Times says, "Rabinovich was jailed from 1982 to 1990 for theft
>from the state. He said in an interview that he had been chief of a
>construction brigade and had sold goods to private customers. He said
>he had committed no real crime and had been persecuted for being
>Jewish.
>
>"...Central European Media sought to expand into Ukraine a year ago.
>At the outset, Fertig (its chief of operations) said, its
>representatives were referred to Rabinovich and his partners by a
>close adviser and  assistant to President Leonid Kuchma of Ukraine,
>who praised the Ukraine group. And when questions arose about the
>legality of the broadcast license  received by the joint venture, the
>same presidential adviser obtained a letter declaring that the license
>had been awarded properly.
>
>"...(C)oncerns about his business activities led the British
>government to bar Loutchansky from entering the country...An
>intelligence summary prepared by a Western government, and
>corroborated by senior U.S. diplomats, said Ostex, one of Rabinovich's
>companies, had been created  as an arm of Nordex, a claim that
>Rabinovich disputed.
>
>"In the interview in his office in a modern building in Kiev,
>Rabinovich said he had worked with Nordex for about a year but had
>broken off the relationship two years ago because of bad publicity
>about Loutchansky. He said his companies, which are engaged in many
>businesses, had only legitimate interests...
>
>"Lauder, whose mother founded Estee Lauder Cosmetics, created Central
>European Media in 1994. He predicted last year that the company would
>have annual revenues of $1 billion within five years, but it has run
>up steady losses to date. The company reported last month that it lost
>$30 million in 1996 compared with losses of $18.7 million in 1995 and
>$20.5  million in 1994.
>
>"When the company sought to enter the Ukraine market a year ago,
>Fertig said, its executives were referred to Rabinovich and his
>partners in Studio 11 by Oleksandra Volkov, an assistant and close
>adviser to Kuchma.
>
>Western diplomats and businessmen said Volkov also owned a piece of 
>Studio 11, but Fertig said he was unaware of that investment.
>
>"Along with the recommendation from the presidential adviser, the
>company executives also were impressed by a photograph in Rabinovich's
>office that showed him with President Clinton and Vice President Al
>Gore, according to a person close to the company.
>
>"The photograph was taken in late 1995 at a Democratic fund-raising
>party in Miami, Rabinovich said. He said he had not donated money to
>the Democrats but had been invited to the event by Bennett LeBow, an
>American businessman whose interests include Liggett Group, the big
>cigarette manufacturer.
>
>"...Last summer Central European Media negotiated a partnership
>agreement with Studio 11 Group that gave the American company a 50
>percent economic interest in the operation, which was broadcasting
>about five hours a day on Ukrainian television.
>
>"Studio 11 received a license last fall to expand its broadcast time
>on Ukraine's commercial channel, UT 2, to nine hours a day, including
>prime time. The license, also sought by other companies, was issued
>despite a moratorium imposed by Parliament.
>
>"...The Ukraine deal is important to Central European Media. In a
>stock offering last fall, which raised $132 million, the company said
>the Ukraine partnership had more than doubled its market reach.
>
>"A cablegram from the embassy to the State Department in Washington in
>September raised questions about Rabinovich's background and said he
>was 'largely considered beyond the reach of the law in Ukraine,'
>according to a copy provided to The New York Times." (End quote).
>
>Once again we see the worldwide Media Monopoly extend its suzerainty
>thanks to their Money Power and the betrayal of the people by the
>Pres. of Ukraine and other Judases.
>
>
>>for further info contact http://www.nswpp.org



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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:20:03 GMT, kengoy88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:35:54 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>>On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:15:39 GMT, adam.radek@england.com wrote:
>>>>http://www.villagevoice.com/ink/news/21friedman.shtml
>>
>>>>The Village Voice
>>>>22May98
>>
>>If the following story is true, why has INTERPOL not done anything??
>>Just because the criminals are JEWS??
>>
>>
>>>The Most Dangerous Mobster in the World
>>
>>>According to the FBI and Israeli Intelligence, Semion Mogilevich Rules
>>>Over an Arms-Trafficking, Money-Laundering, Drug-Running, and
>>>Art-Smuggling 'Red Mafia'
>>
>>>by Robert I. Friedman
>>
>>
>>>In two posh villas outside  the small town of Ricany, near Prague, one
>>>of the most dreaded mob families in the world savagely murders its
>>>terrified victims. The  mob's young enforcers, trained by veterans of
>>>the Afghanistan war, are infamous for their extreme brutality. Their
>>>quarry, usually businessmen who have balked at extortion demands, are
>>>repeatedly stabbed and tortured, then mutilated before they are
>>>butchered. The carnage is so hideous that it has scared the daylights
>>>out of competing crime groups in the area.
>>
>>>The torture chambers are run by what international police officials call
>>>the Red Mafia, a notorious  Russian mob family that in onlysix years has
>>>become a nefarious global crime cartel. Based in Budapest, it haskey
>>>centers in New York, Pennsylvania, Southern California, and as far away
>>>as New Zealand.
>>>
>>>The enigmatic leader of the Red Mafia is a  52-year-old Ukrainian-born
>>>JEW named Semion Mogilevich. He is a shadowy figure known as the
>>>''Brainy Don''--he holds an economics degree from  the University of
>>>Lvov--and until now, he has never  been exposed by the media. But the
>>>Voice has  obtained hundreds of pages of classified FBI and  Israeli
>>>intelligence documents from August 1996, and   these documents--as well
>>>as recent interviews with a key criminal associate and with dozens of
>>>law  enforcement sources here and abroad--describe him as someone who
>>>has become a grave threat to the stability of Israel and Eastern Europe.
>>
>>>''He's the most powerful mobster in the world,'' crows Monya Elson, who
>>>is listed in classified documents as one of Mogilevich's closest
>>>associates and  partners in prostitution and money laundering rings. The
>>>Brighton Beach-based Elson, who once led a pack of thugs and killers
>>>known as Monya's Brigada,  is currently in the Metropolitan Correctional
>>>Center in  lower Manhattan awaiting trial for three murders and numerous
>>>extortions.
>>
>>>In July 1993, after Elson was grievously wounded by rival mobsters in a
>>>bloody shoot-out outside his Brooklyn apartment building, Mogilevich
>>>spirited him out of the country. Mogilevich then set up his Russian
>>>Jewish refugee friend in an alleged massive  money-laundering scheme in
>>>Fano, Italy, where he was eventually arrested and extradited back to
>>>America. Elson, an integral part of the Red Mafia, had been one of the
>>>most feared mobsters in Brighton Beach, ground zero for Russian
>>>organized crime in America, which has exploded here following
>>>perestroika.
>>>
>>>''If I tell on Mogilevich, Interpol will give me $20 million,'' boasted
>>>Elson. ''I lived with him. I'm his partner, don't forget. We are very,
>>>very close friends. I don't mean close, I mean very, very close. He's my
>>>best friend.'' Nevertheless, after extensive interviews over the course
>>>of the last six months, Elson ultimately confirmed some of the details
>>>about Mogilevich contained in the classified FBI and Israeli documents.
>>>
>>>Allegations of Mogilevich's devilish array of criminal activities are
>>>extensively detailed in the reports:The FBI and Israeli intelligence
>>>assert that he traffics in nuclear materials, drugs, prostitutes,
>>>precious gems, and stolen art. His contract hit squads operate in the
>>>U.S. and Europe. He controls everything that goes in and out of Moscow's
>>>Sheremetyevo International Airport, a ''smugglers' paradise,'' says
>>>Elson. Mogilevich bought a bankrupt airline in a former Central Asian
>>>Soviet republic for millions of dollars in cash so he could haul heroin
>>>out of the Golden Triangle. Most worrisome to U.S. authorities is
>>>Mogilevich's apparently legal purchase of virtually the entire Hungarian
>>>armaments industry, jeopardizing regional security, NATO, and the war
>>>against terrorism.
>>>
>>>In one typical criminal deal, Mogilevich and two Moscow-based gangsters
>>>sold $20 million worth of pilfered Warsaw Pact weapons from East
>>>Germany,  including ground-to-air missiles and 12 armored troop
>>>carriers, according to the classified Israeli and FBI documents. The
>>>buyer was Iran, says a top-level U.S. Customs official who requested
>>>anonymity.
>>>
>>>In another deal, an FBI informant told the bureau that one of
>>>Mogilevich's chief lieutenants in Los Angeles met two Russians from New
>>>York City with Genovese crime family ties to broker a scheme to dump
>>>American toxic waste in Russia. Mogilevich's man from L.A. said the Red
>>>Mafia would dispose of  the toxic waste in the Chernobyl region,
>>>''probably through payoffs to the decontamination authorities there,''
>>>says a classified FBI report.
>>>
>>>Mogilevich is particularly intrigued by art fraud. In early 1993, he
>>>reached an agreement with the  leaders of the powerful Solntsevskaya
>>>crime family in Moscow to invest huge sums of money in a joint venture:
>>>acquiring a jewelry business in Moscow and Budapest. The business,
>>>according to classified FBI documents, was to serve as a front for the
>>>acquisition of jewelry, antiques, and art, which the Solntsevskaya mob
>>>had stolen from churches and museums in Russia, including the Hermitage
>>>in St. Petersburg. The gangsters also robbed the homes of  art
>>>collectors and even broke into synagogues in Germany and Eastern Europe
>>>to steal rare religious books and Torahs.
>>>
>>>Mogilevich's operation, again in collusion with the Solntsevskaya mob,
>>>also purchased a large jewelry factory in Budapest. Russian antiques,
>>>such as Faberge eggs, are sent to Budapest for ''restoration.''
>>>Mogilevich's men ship the genuine Faberge eggs to  an unwitting
>>>Sotheby's auction house in London for sale, then send fake Faberge eggs
>>>as well as other ''restored'' objects back to Moscow.
>>>
>>>MOGILEVICH'S EARLY years are murky. Soviet authorities first learned of
>>>his criminal activities in the 1970s, when he was a member of the
>>>Liubertskaya crime group that operated in the Moscow suburb of  the same
>>>name. He was involved in petty thefts and counterfeiting.
>>>
>>>But Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the mid
>>>1980s, when tens of thousands of  Jewish refugees were hurriedly
>>>immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
>>>assets--rubles, furniture, and art--cheaply, promising to exchange the
>>>goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ''hard''
>>>currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
>>>profits.
>>>
>>>In the 1980s, he established a petroleum  import-export company, Arbat
>>>International, and registered it in Alderney, one of the Channel
>>>Islands, which is known to be a tax haven. One of his partners--with a
>>>quarter share of the company--was Vyacheslav Ivankov, the legendary
>>>Russian criminal who in March 1992 became Godfather of the Russian mob
>>>in America. Ivankov was convicted in 1996 of extorting two Russian-born
>>>Wall Street stockbrokers. He now resides in Raybrook, a Federal prison
>>>in upstate New York.
>>>
>>>In early 1990, Mogilevich fled Moscow, as did many other dons, to avoid
>>>the gangland wars that were then roiling the capital. Mogilevich and his
>>>top henchmen settled in Israel, where they received  Israeli
>>>citizenship. He ''succeeded in building a bridgehead in Israel'' and
>>>''developing significant and influential [political] ties,'' says an
>>>Israeli intelligence report.
>>>
>>>Mogilevich is married to a Hungarian national, Katalin Papp. That
>>>marriage allowed him to legally emigrate to Budapest, Hungary, in 1991,
>>>where he began to build the foundations of his global criminal empire.
>>>He bought a string of nightclubs in Prague, Riga, and  Kiev--called the
>>>''Black and White Clubs''--that has become one of the world's foremost
>>>centers of  prostitution. Monya Elson is a partner in the clubs,
>>>according to his own admission and classified FBI  documents. The Black
>>>and White Club in Budapest became the hub of Mogilevich's operations. He
>>>quickly built a highly structured criminal organization,  in the mode of
>>>a traditional American mafia family.  Indeed, many of the organization's
>>>250 members are his relatives.
>>>
>>>To the consternation of international law enforcement officials,
>>>Mogilevich began to legally purchase much of Hungary's arms industry.
>>>The legitimate companies he bought include:
>>>
>>>-Magnex 2000: a giant magnet manufacturer.
>>>
>>>-Digep General Machine Works: an artillery shell, mortar, and fire
>>>equipment manufacturer, which was financed by a $3.8 million loan from
>>>the London  branch of Banque Francaise De L'orean.
>>>
>>>-Army Co-op: a mortar and anti-aircraft gun factory. Army Co-op was
>>>established in 1991 by two  Hungarian nationals, both in the local arms
>>>industry,  who were looking for a partner. Mogilevich has bought 95 per
>>>cent of Army Co-op through another Channel Island holding company,
>>>Arigon, Ltd., and also deals extensively with the Ukraine, selling oil
>>>products to the Ukrainian railway administration.
>>>
>>>These transactions enabled the Mogilevich organization to become a
>>>direct owner of the Hungarian armaments industry. In 1994, he purchased
>>>a license enabling him to buy and sell  weapons. Now a legitimate
>>>armaments manufacturer, one of his companies participated in at least
>>>one arms exhibition in the U.S., where it displayed mortars modified by
>>>Israel.
>>>
>>>Like mob bosses everywhere, Mogilevich couldn't  sustain his empire
>>>without the help of corrupt police and politicians. There is one
>>>documented example of  a criminal associate of Mogilevich mingling with
>>>American politicians. In March 1994, Vahtang Ubiriya, one of
>>>Mogilevich's top lieutenants, was photographed by the FBI at a tony
>>>Republican Party fundraiser in Dallas, says an FBI report. Ubiriya, a
>>>high-ranking official in the Ukrainian railway administration, has a
>>>prior conviction for bribery in the Ukraine.
>>>
>>>In Europe and Russia, the ''corruption of police and public officials
>>>has been part of the Semion  Mogilevich Organization's modus operandi,''
>>>says a classified FBI document. ''The corruptive influence of  the
>>>Mogilevich organization apparently extends to the Russian security
>>>system. During 1995, two colonels from Department of the Russian
>>>Presidential Security Service . . . traveled to Hungary under commercia
>>>cover to meet with Mogilevich . . . seeking  information for use in the
>>>Russian political campaign.'' An Israeli associate of Mogilevich met
>>>with the two colonels and provided intelligence.  Mogilevich also paid
>>>off a Russian judge to secure  Vyacheslav Ivankov's early release from a
>>>Siberian prison, where he was doing hard time for robbery and torture,
>>>according to U.S. court records and  classified FBI documents.
>>>
>>>On April 28, the German national television network ZDF reported that
>>>the BND (the German intelligence agency) had entered into a secret
>>>contract with  Mogilevich to provide information on the Russian  mob.
>>>The charges were made by several sources,   including Pierre Delilez, a
>>>highly regarded Belgium  police investigator who specializes in Russian
>>>Organized Crime. Because of this deal with the BND,  police in Belgium,
>>>Germany, and Austria have complained that it is now impossible to
>>>investigate  the ''Brainy Don.'' If the television report is accurate,
>>>one possible motive for BND's deal, says a U.S. law enforcement expert
>>>on the Russian mob, is that the Germans recently ''pulled their people
>>>out of Moscow  because they didn't like the level of cooperation they
>>>were getting from the Russian authorities on the  Russian mob.''
>>>Gangsters, said this source, often talk to intelligence agencies about
>>>their rivals.
>>>
>>>MOGILEVICH'S MAIN activity in the U.S. appears to be money laundering,
>>>says a classified FBI report.  He has set up companies in Los
>>>Angeles--FNJ Trade Management--and Newton, Pennsylvania--YBM  Magnex
>>>International--as well as dozens of shell  companies, which have
>>>received more than $30 million from Arigon, Ltd., the center of
>>>Mogilevich's  financial operations.
>>>
>>>Last Friday, U.S. Attorney Robert Courtney, head of  the organized-crime
>>>strike force, led a a joint FBI,  IRS, INS, and Customs raid of YBM's
>>>offices in  Newton. Cartons of documents were seized, with  Canadian and
>>>U.S. police citing the company's alleged ties to Russian organized
>>>crime. YBM is  publicly traded on the Toronto Stock Exchange, and  two
>>>days before Friday's raid, trading in its stock was suspended by
>>>Canadian authorities.
>>>
>>>The president and CEO of YBM is Jacob Bogatin, a professor of physical
>>>metallurgy. In May 1996, he contacted the FBI in Philadelphia to find
>>>out why the  INS had denied visas to YBM employees arriving from Hungary
>>>and the Ukraine. When he was rebuffed, he had intermediaries step
>>>forward and pester the FBI. The State Department has banned Mogilevich
>>>himself from obtaining a U.S. visa because he's on the department's
>>>watch list of  international organized-crime figures. Nevertheless, he
>>>has surreptitiously entered America under aliases and on visitor visas
>>>issued in Tel Aviv to visit Elson  and Ivankov.
>>>
>>>Bogatin admitted during a telephone interview that Mogilevich owns his
>>>company. When asked if he knew that numerous law enforcement agencies
>>>here and abroad considered Mogilevich to be a leader of  one of the most
>>>ruthless organized-crime families in  recent times, Bogatin replied,
>>>''We have an investors relations guy. You want to talk with him about
>>>this stuff.'' He added that he had read allegations in the Eastern
>>>European press that his boss was a Mafia don, but didn't believe them.
>>>YBM vehemently denies that it is connected to Russian organized crime or
>>>has engaged in any criminal activities.
>>>
>>>Bogatin is no stranger to the mob, however. His brother, David, a top
>>>Russian crime figure who once served in North Vietnam for the Soviets in
>>>an anti-aircraft unit, is now serving an eight-year term in  a New York
>>>State prison for a multimillion-dollar gasoline tax fraud scheme. Just
>>>prior to trial, he had jumped bail, fleeing to Poland. There he set up
>>>the  first commercial banks, which moved vast sums of  money controlled
>>>by Russian wiseguys. (This after handing over his mortgages for five
>>>pricey Trump Tower apartments to a Genovese associate. The mortgages
>>>were liquidated and the funds were moved  through a mafia-controlled
>>>bank in Chelsea.)  Eventually he was caught and returned to the U.S. In
>>>the meantime, he lived like royalty in a five-star  Viennese hotel,
>>>surrounded by a praetorian guard of 125 Polish parachutists, some of
>>>them bedecked in shiny gold uniforms.
>>>
>>>Mogilevich has not refrained from associating with known killers in
>>>America, prime among them Elson and Ivankov. A confidential informant
>>>told the FBI that Vladimir Berkovich, an L.A. resident, is a chief
>>>lieutenant in Mogilevich's organization and has arranged contract
>>>killings here, supplying the  weapons and spiriting the killers out of
>>>the country. The visas, says the report, were obtained through the Palm
>>>Terrace restaurant, a watering hole for Russian gangsters, which
>>>Berkovich owns. Berkovich told the Voice that he is aware of the
>>>government's charges, and that they are ''total bullshit.'' Although he
>>>has no criminal record in the U.S., Berkovich's son, Oleg, was convicted
>>>in Los Angeles of solicitation to commit murder on October 11, 1989. He
>>>was sentenced to four years. Oleg's business card  identified his
>>>employer as Magnex, Ltd., a company owned by Mogilevich in Budapest.
>>>Oleg was recently arrested in Hungary on unspecified charges but was
>>>released.
>>>
>>>Oleg's uncle, the colorful Lazar Berkovich, whose last known address was
>>>New York City, arrived in the  Big Apple after having survived a
>>>shootout with Italian gangsters, says his brother Vladimir. The FBI
>>>report claims that Lazar was head of Russian criminal activities in
>>>Italy prior to his coming to America to recuperate from his wounds,
>>>though Vladimir  Bercovich denies that Lazar was ever connected to the
>>>Russian mob.
>>>
>>>Israeli and U.S. law enforcement sources agree that the Red Mafia,
>>>though in existence for a mere six years, has become one of the most
>>>formidable Russian organized-crime families in the world. Strongest in
>>>the Ukraine, Hungary, the Czech  Republic, and the U.S., Mogilevich has
>>>increased his strength by forging ties with other powerful Russian mob
>>>groups as well as with the Italian Camorra. His reported ties to the
>>>German BND and ex-police officers in Hungary keep him informed of police
>>>efforts to penetrate his organization. ''He also  ingratiates himself
>>>with the police by providing information on other [Russian crime]
>>>groups'  activities, thus appearing to be a cooperative good  citizen,''
>>>says a classfied FBI report. This, along with  his strong leadership
>>>qualities, his acute financial  skills, his talented and highly educated
>>>associates,  and his use of cutting-edge technology, has so far  made
>>>the ''Brainy Don'' impervious to prosecution.
>>>
>>>This document last modified Friday, May 22, 1998, 10:31 AM EDT.



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On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:50:06 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On 20 Oct 1998 14:46:50 GMT, "firefly" 
>wrote:
>
>>THE CROSS IS NOBODY BUSSINESS< IT IS ON  POLAND LAND
>>POLAND HAS THE RIGHT TO PUT WHAT THEY WANT  INSIDE
>>IN THEIR COUNTRY.THIS IS INTERNAL AFFAIR   < IT IS NOT AOUR
>>AFFAIR.COMPRENDE!!!!
>
>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:02 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:05:23, watcher2  wrote:
>>
>>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>>By Sean Maguire
>>>Sept. 14, 1998
>>
>>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz. 
>>
>>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>>>sensitive site. 
>>
>>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>>>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>>>groups. 
>>
>>>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests and must be resolved as
>>>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are beginning to be perceived
>>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' she added. 
>>
>>>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>>>site inevitable. 
>>
>>>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 
>>
>>>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>>>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site. 
>>
>>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex. 
>>
>>>Poland's center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>>>human ashes at Birkenau. 
>>
>>>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar. 
>>
>>>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>>and nationalists. 
>>
>>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>>>forgotten. 
>>
>>>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>>>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>>>be removed. 
>>>
>>>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated. 
>>>
>>>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the answer but the cross, all
>>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>>>the-scene discussion.'' 
>>>
>>>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>>>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, ``But I don't see any
>>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>>>the moment.'' 
>>
>>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 
>>
>>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>>>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>>>and the Jewish diaspora. 
>>
>>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>>>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>>>international funding, are on hold. 
>>
>>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently. 
>>
>>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign. 
>>
>>>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about preserving barbed wire,
>>>concrete, the crematories.'' 
>>
>>>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>>>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda. 
>>
>>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>>>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>>>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' wiping out most of
>>>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 
>>
>>>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>>>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>>>Magdziak-Miszewska. 
>>
>>>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 
>>
>>>``We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>>>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland's tiny
>>>Jewish community.
>



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On Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:05:33 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>
>>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>>question how many may have died in WWII!!!
>>
>>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!
>>
>>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>>involved.
>
>
>
>>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, vagabond@idirect.com (William
>>Markiewicz) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at.  See the
>>>Communication Page, August 97 issue 
>>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>>
>>sperati wrote:
>>> 
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>> 
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> 
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>> 
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>> 
>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>> 
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>> 
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>> 
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>> 
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>> 
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>> 
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>> 
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>> 
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>> 
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>> 
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>> 
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>> 
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>> 
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>> 
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>> 
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>> 
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>> 
>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>
>>
>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!



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On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:36 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:16:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 01:42:58 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>
>>>And don't forget the murders of the British, such as in the King david
>>>Hotel, by the IRGUN and Stern Gang, involving this great zionist
>>>gangster!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 18:30:30 -0700, Clancy
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Memorandum on Yitzhak Rabin's participation in war crimes
>>>>
>>>>By Elias Davidsson, Reykjav_k, Iceland October 1992. Revisions in December
>>>>1992 and December 1994
>>>>
>>>>A number of Member States of the United Nations have declared their
>>>>interest and support for the establishment of an International Criminal
>>>>Court under United Nations auspices to deal with international crimes such
>>>>as war crimes and crimes against humanity. A Special Court to deal with War
>>>>Crimes committed in ex-Yugoslavia has been established under UN auspices
>>>>and has began functioning. There have also been calls by non-governmental
>>>>organisations and eminent citizens for the trial of individual leaders,
>>>>such as Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot, George Bush and John Major, for their
>>>>alleged participation in war crimes. More and more people recognize the
>>>>importance of holding individual public leaders responsible for their deeds
>>>>and failings, not only politically and morally, but also legally.
>>>>International law provides some opportunities in this direction, which have
>>>>not been used yet.
>>>>
>>>>Such opportunity presents itself in the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>1949. By signing these Conventions, each Signatory State undertook "to
>>>>search for persons alleged to have committed, or to have ordered to be
>>>>committed, [such] grave breaches, and [shall] bring such persons,
>>>>regardless of their nationality, before its own courts." A Signatory may
>>>>also avail itself of the possibility, under certain conditions, of handing
>>>>such persons to another Signatory State for trial.
>>>>
>>>>Since the Nurnberg and Tokyo trials in which the leading World War II
>>>>criminals were tried, no judicial body of any country has been willing to
>>>>initiate legal measures for the apprehension and trial of the world's
>>>>leading war criminals, in spite of States' legal obligations to do so.
>>>>States, including those claiming to support human rights, shield leading
>>>>war criminals from prosecution or provide them with shelter. Individuals
>>>>such as Pol Pot of Kampuchea, Saddam Hussein of Iraq, Assad of Syria,
>>>>Pinochet of Chile and Mobutu of Zaire, are often, and justifiably, labelled
>>>>as enemies of Mankind. But none of them has ever been formally charged by
>>>>any Signatory of the Geneva Conventions, in spite of ample evidence of
>>>>their responsibility for international crimes. Other gross human right
>>>>violators (such as the leaders of Haiti) have been offered shelter in third
>>>>countries where they escape prosecution.
>>>>
>>>>The Israeli-Arab conflict, or more correctly the Zionist- Palestinian
>>>>conflict, has lasted for almost a century. In the course of this conflict,
>>>>many acts of violence were committed by both sides. But not every act of
>>>>violence committed in an international conflict is defined in international
>>>>law as a war crime or a crime against humanity. The difference lies both in
>>>>the nature of the crime, its extent, whether it is systematic or sporadic
>>>>and whether violence was committed against non-combatants, to name a few
>>>>criteria. Only the most odious crimes are considered as offences against
>>>>Mankind, which all states, individually and collectively, are required to
>>>>repress. The Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional
>>>>Protocols of 1977, provide a list of such crimes.
>>>>
>>>>The present memorandum provides evidence about the responsibility of Mr.
>>>>Yitzhak Rabin, Israeli national and current Prime Minister of the State of
>>>>Israel, for acts committed under his orders and which are defined in the
>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional Protocol I of
>>>>1977, as 'grave breaches', the technical term for war crimes. The
>>>>memorandum includes also a preliminary legal discussion about the acts in
>>>>question, the responsibility of Mr. Rabin and the duties of states to
>>>>prosecute.
>>>>
>>>> 1. Mr. Rabin Was Responsible for Ethnical Cleaning / Deportation in 1948
>>>>
>>>>On 12 July 1948, Lt. Colonel Yitzhak Rabin, Chief of Operations Operation
>>>>Dani, issued the following order to Yiftah Brigade headquarters:
>>>>
>>>>"1. The inhabitants of Lydda must be expelled quickly without attention to
>>>>age. They should be directed towards Beit Nabala. Yiftah [Brigade
>>>>headquarters] must determine the method and inform [Operation] Dani HQ and
>>>>8th Brigade HQ. 2. Implement immediately." The order was signed "Yitzhak
>>>>R[abin]."
>>>>
>>>>The implementation of this order is described in the authoritative book
>>>>"The birth of the Palestinian refugee problem, 1947-1949" by Israeli
>>>>historian Benny Morris (Cambridge University Press, 1987) [pages 207-210]
>>>>and more in detail in Michael Palumbo's book "The Palestinian catastrophe:
>>>>The 1948 expulsion of a people from their homeland", Quartet Books,
>>>>London/New York, 1987 [Chapter VIII: The Lydda Death March].
>>>>
>>>>These publications offer further evidence about Mr. Rabin's implication in
>>>>this event. The authors estimate that approx. 50.000 civilians (Arabs) were
>>>>expelled from Lydda and Ramleh under Mr. Rabin's orders. As a prelude to
>>>>the flight hundreds of civilians were killed by Israeli soldiers. Many more
>>>>died in the ensuing `march to exile'. Although Zionist leaders claimed that
>>>>the expulsions were based on military necessity, the fact that the refugees
>>>>were not allowed to return and declarations by Zionist leaders about the
>>>>necessity to reduce the number of Arabs in the incumbent Jewish state lend
>>>>credence to the claim (by Palestinians) that the expulsions were part of a
>>>>planned 'transfer' policy by the Zionist authorities, in other words a
>>>>master plan of "ethnical cleansing".
>>>>
>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of Lydda and
>>>>Ramleh (who have never been allowed to return) constitutes a grave breach
>>>>of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>
>>>>Article 85.5 of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of
>>>>12 August 1949 specifically refers to grave breaches as 'war crimes'.
>>>>
>>>>2. Mr Rabin Ordered in 1967 the Destruction of 3 Villages and the Expulsion
>>>>                            of their Inhabitants
>>>>
>>>>In the 1967 war between Israel and Jordan, Yitzhak Rabin was Chief of Staff
>>>>of the Israeli Defence Forces. In this short war some 5.000 inhabitants
>>>>from three villages in the Latrun triangle between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem
>>>>(Emwas, Beit Nuba and Yalou) were expelled by the Israeli army and their
>>>>villages totally destroyed. An Israeli soldier, Amos Kenan, who took part
>>>>in the expulsions, described these acts in a report sent to all Israeli
>>>>Members of Parliament. According to press reports, including one in
>>>>Jerusalem Post of 24 October 1991, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin admitted in Canadian
>>>>TV having given the order to destroy the villages. The inhabitants of these
>>>>villages were never allowed to return and rebuilt their village nor bury
>>>>their dead in the lands of their former village.
>>>>
>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of the above
>>>>three villages constitutes a grave breach of the First Additional Protocol
>>>>to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>
>>>>In addition, the Geneva Conventions as well as their additional protocols
>>>>prohibit "at any time and in any place whatsoever....collective
>>>>punishments". It seems that the destruction of these villages - every
>>>>single house in them - constitutes 'collective punishment' within the
>>>>meaning of the Conventions.
>>>>
>>>>    3. Mr Rabin Urged Israeli Soldiers to Break the Bones of Palestinian
>>>>                                 Youngsters
>>>>
>>>>In mid-January 1988, Mr. Rabin, then Israeli Defense Minister, announced a
>>>>policy to restore order in the Occupied Territories by "force, might,
>>>>beatings". More specifically, he urged Israeli soldiers to summarily (and
>>>>viciously) beat Palestinian demonstrators. Israeli soldiers implemented
>>>>this policy, breaking the hands or arms of many demonstrators with
>>>>methodically directed blows, using sticks and stones. In some cases,
>>>>Palestinian youngsters were rounded up from their homes, brought to remote
>>>>areas, and there, while a couple of soldiers held them, had their bones
>>>>smashed. The international outrage called forth by a 40- minute long
>>>>TV-film secretly shot, and showing how Israeli soldiers smash the bones of
>>>>a Palestinian youth, compelled the Israeli government to halt these
>>>>extra-judicial and inhuman punishments.
>>>>
>>>>Israeli soldiers, charged for using excessive force and brought to trial in
>>>>Israel, have testified that the orders for these practices originated from
>>>>above, including from Yitzhak Rabin. Although the Israeli press published
>>>>numerous testimonies, which all mention Mr. Rabin as the instigator of
>>>>these practices (i.e. Ha'aretz, 9. April, 1. July, 3. July 1990, Jerusalem
>>>>Post of 25 July and 30 June 1992), Mr. Rabin was never asked to testify in
>>>>court. No inquiry was initiated regarding Mr. Rabin's role in these
>>>>policies.
>>>>
>>>>Article 147 of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, specifies as
>>>>one of the grave breaches (war crimes) "inhuman treatment....wilfully
>>>>causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health". Protocol I
>>>>Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (1977), lists among
>>>>the acts which remain "prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever,
>>>>whether committed by civilian or by military agents:": "Violence to
>>>>the....physical or mental well-being of persons, in particular....(iii)
>>>>corporal punishment."
>>>>
>>>>    4. Yitzhak Rabin Ordered in 1993 Indiscriminate Attacks of Civilian
>>>>                       Population Centers in Lebanon
>>>>
>>>>The Sunday Times, 1 August 1993, reported under the heading: Rabin's war:
>>>>"Late yesterday, he [Rabin] called off his personal seven-day war in
>>>>southern Lebanon. (...) Rabin's War - Operation Accountability - has killed
>>>>at least 130 and sent hundreds of thousands of Lebanese fleeing towards
>>>>Beirut. (...) Southern Lebanon had become a land without people.(...) About
>>>>80 villages have been hit.". According to the London-based Middle East
>>>>International (MEI) of 6 August 1993, the "majority of casualties were
>>>>civilians. At least 55 towns and villages were very heavily damaged,
>>>>including Nabatiya, a major regional center with a normal population of
>>>>around 100,000."
>>>>
>>>>According to the editorial of the same issue of MEI, this seven-day
>>>>bombardment of southern Lebanon was "expressly designed (as Mr. Rabin
>>>>himself announced) to render South Lebanon 'uninhabitable' and to create a
>>>>tidal wave of refugees so huge that it would destabilise the government in
>>>>Beirut and bend it to Israel's will (...)"
>>>>
>>>>According to Lebanese government estimates (reported in MEI), "some 400,000
>>>>people - mainly Shi'ite Muslims - fled their homes in panic, with about
>>>>half of them converging on Beirut and its southern suburbs. While some had
>>>>families and friends to go to, others arrived with only the clothes they
>>>>stood in, and had no money to fend for themselves".
>>>>
>>>>Both the Hague Conventions of 1907 and the Additional Protocol I to the
>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 contain specific provisions that
>>>>prohibit attacks on civilian populations. Thus Additional Protocol I
>>>>specifies as a 'grave breach' (war crime) "making the civilian population
>>>>or individual civilians the object of attack" as well as "launching an
>>>>indiscriminate attack affecting the civilian population or civilian objects
>>>>in the knowledge that such attack will cause excessive loss of life, injury
>>>>to civilians or damage to civilian objects". Further details are provided
>>>>by the Protocols, all of which lead to the conclusion that the Israeli
>>>>attack on South Lebanon constituted a 'grave breach' of international
>>>>humanitarian law. The individual who bears the primary responsibility for
>>>>the Israeli operation against South Lebanon is Yitzhak Rabin, in his double
>>>>capacity as Prime Minister and Minister of Defense.
>>>>
>>>>LEGAL DISCUSSION
>>>>
>>>>There are a number of legal questions that must be settled before charging
>>>>Mr. Rabin for participation in war crimes. Among these questions we can
>>>>mention the following: Are the facts allegedly attributed to Mr. Rabin
>>>>true? Are the sources trustworthy? What is the evidence that Mr. Rabin had
>>>>anything to do with these acts ? Do the acts under consideration constitute
>>>>prosecutable crimes under international law?
>>>>
>>>>Another set of questions would deal with the problems involved in bringing
>>>>a person such as Mr. Rabin to trial. These problems are of a similar nature
>>>>to those encountered today by the UN Tribunal on War Crimes Committed in
>>>>Ex- Yugoslavia. These questions will not be dealt here as they are
>>>>premature. However it is necessary to deal, if only summarily, with a
>>>>widely held opinion, according to which the whole question of the
>>>>prosecution of war criminals is a non-starter, because it is impossible to
>>>>bring the leading war criminals to trial due to their political status or
>>>>their country's sovereignty. Although it is true that in many situations,
>>>>it is impossible to bring about the prosecution and apprehension of the
>>>>leading world war criminals, it is nevertheless of great public utility to
>>>>expose their crimes as widely as possible, isolate such people politically
>>>>and morally and cause small but significant changes of policy. Such
>>>>publicity would at least prevent that war criminals could travel between
>>>>world capitals in total impunity and be feted as peace heroes, as Mr. Rabin
>>>>has been. It might be argued that in some circumstances, an individual
>>>>charged of war crimes, might voluntarily seek due process, either to clean
>>>>his name, or to avoid extra-judicial retribution.
>>>>
>>>>The Authencitiy/Reliabity of the Evidence
>>>>
>>>>In all above cases there has been a wide coverage given by the press and in
>>>>scholarly works to the acts committed. There may be disagreement between
>>>>observers as to the number of victims and to details regarding the conduct
>>>>of hostilities.
>>>>
>>>>In the first two cases (expulsion from Lydda and Ramleh and expulsion from
>>>>the 3 villages around Latrun), there is no controversy about the fact that
>>>>the population of these two towns was expelled. A disagreement persists
>>>>regarding the aim of the expulsion. Israel maintains that the expulsion
>>>>were carried out because of military necessity. From the point of view of
>>>>international humanitarian law, it does not matter why a civil population
>>>>is deported. Such deportations are prohibited in all circumstances and
>>>>constitute war crimes. Furthermore, if it were true that a the expulsions
>>>>were carried out because of military necessity, the expelled would be
>>>>allowed to return to their homes, once the hostilities ended. But Israel
>>>>has not only refused to allow such return but allowed Jewish immigrants
>>>>from other countries to permanently occupy the abandoned houses in Ramleh
>>>>and Lydda and planted a park on the land of the villages destroyed in 1967.
>>>>
>>>>Ample evidence has been published in 1988 in the Israeli press and the
>>>>international press about acts of beatings and breaking of limbs by Israeli
>>>>soldiers. Such evidence includes also visual documentaries, testimonies by
>>>>Israeli soldiers and testimonies of victims. There is no controversy about
>>>>the fact that such acts were carried out.
>>>>
>>>>The last case, regarding the massive attack on South Lebanon, was reported
>>>>in the international press. The effect of the attack was documented in
>>>>great detail, particularly the flight of hundreds of thousands of civilians
>>>>from their homes in South Lebanon and their plight.
>>>>
>>>>Mr. Rabin's Personal Involvement in the Above Acts
>>>>
>>>>As to Mr. Rabin's personal implication in the above acts, this has never
>>>>been questioned by anyone. As quoted above, Mr. Rabin has publicly
>>>>acknowledged to have ordered the commission of the first two actions (1948
>>>>and 1967).
>>>>
>>>>While Mr. Rabin did not yet explicitly admit to have urged Israeli soldiers
>>>>"to break the bones" of Palestinian demonstrators, his declared policy in
>>>>1987/88 to crush the Palestinian uprising by "force, might, beatings" and
>>>>the numerous testimonies in Israeli courts by Israeli IDF personnel
>>>>implicating Mr. Rabin in such punishments appear sufficient to charge him
>>>>of instigating and condoning these acts.
>>>>
>>>>As for the IDF attack on South Lebanon in 1993, it can be assumed that it
>>>>was committed under direct orders from and permission by Israel's Prime
>>>>Minister and Minister of Defense, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin. Although one might
>>>>argue that other Israeli nationals, primarily leaders of the IDF, were
>>>>implicated in this gross violation of international law, this does not
>>>>mitigate Mr. Rabin's primary responsibility for this act.
>>>>
>>>>The Legal Status of the Above Acts under International Law
>>>>
>>>>Some Israeli legal scholars argue that the acts described above cannot be
>>>>described as 'war crimes' as they are grossly different in extent and
>>>>intent from the war crimes committed by the Nazi regime. According to this
>>>>view, only the most outrageous types of 'war crimes', as committed in World
>>>>War II, would qualify for universal juridiction. This narrow interpretation
>>>>of international humanitarian law is widely challenged because in practice
>>>>this would nullify the intent and spirit of the Geneva Conventions. Such
>>>>interpretation would thus be incompatible with the Law of Treaties. The
>>>>International Committee of the Red Cross, who have published the Geneva
>>>>Conventions and their Additional Protocols, have also published
>>>>authoritative and detailed commentaries on specific articles of these
>>>>treaties. These can serve as a source to evaluate the applicability of the
>>>>Conventions to these acts. The fact that the Geneva Conventions have been
>>>>violated with impunity by numerous states, has never been considered by
>>>>legal scholars as a practice diluting the letter and spirit of the
>>>>Conventions.
>>>>
>>>>The Geneva Conventions prohibit deportation both of groups and of
>>>>individuals in all circumstances. The expulsion of 5,000 or 50,000
>>>>civilians from their homes falls clearly under this heading. The Nuremberg
>>>>Principles, on the base of which Nazi war criminals were convicted, define
>>>>the "deportation ... for any ... purpose of civilian population of or in
>>>>occupied territory" as War Crime. These Principles define further the
>>>>"deportation and other inhuman acts done against any civilian
>>>>population....when such acts are done....in connection with any crime
>>>>against peace or any war crime", as Crime against Humanity.
>>>>
>>>>There has been some controversy about the legal nature of exactions
>>>>committed by Israeli soldiers against Palestinian demonstrators,
>>>>particularly the beatings under custody. To beat a person he must be
>>>>already under custody. He thus must first be apprehended and therefore does
>>>>not represent any imminent danger to those detaining him. Any
>>>>extra-judicial attack or punishment upon his person constitutes a gross
>>>>deviation from accepted norms of civilized law (which require the due
>>>>process of law to determine a defendant's culpability and punishment). The
>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 are not as specific as the Additional
>>>>Protocol I of 1977, which proscribes 'corporal punishment', although not as
>>>>a 'grave breach'. The final legal determination of this offence would have
>>>>to be carried out by experts.
>>>>
>>>>As to the attack on South Lebanon, international law is quite explicit
>>>>about the prohibition of attacking civilian areas. The fact that Hizbullah
>>>>forces launched attacks against Israel from these areas does not relieve
>>>>Israel from the duty to observe the rules of warfare when launching
>>>>retribution. In launching and committing the massive attacks on wide
>>>>populated areas in South Lebanon and causing hundreds of thousands of
>>>>people to flee their homes, the IDF clearly and grossly violated the laws
>>>>of warfare. Article 85, paragraph 3 (a) and (b) of the Additional Protocol
>>>>I to the Geneva Conventions of 1949 specify such attacks among the 'grave
>>>>breaches' (war crimes), if such attacks were committed "wilfully, in
>>>>violation of the relevant provisions of this Protocol, and causing death or
>>>>serious injury to body or health".
>>>>
>>>>Do State Leaders Enjoy Immunity Against Prosecution?
>>>>
>>>>It is generally believed that State leaders are immune from legal
>>>>prosecution with regards to international humanitarian law, but this is
>>>>incorrect. The international community has accepted that a limited number
>>>>of crimes are so odious that their perpetrators are considered enemies of
>>>>Mankind. Such crimes include piracy, slavery, genocide, international
>>>>terrorism and war crimes, to name a few. It is the right and duty of all
>>>>nations to search and bring to trial individuals who have committed such
>>>>crimes, regardless of nationality and status. The Nuremberg Principles,
>>>>established in 1945 and incorporated into positive international law since
>>>>then, state:
>>>>
>>>>"The fact that a person who committed an act which constitutes a crime
>>>>under international law acted as Head of State or responsible Government
>>>>official does not relieve him from responsibility under international law"
>>>>(Principle III. "The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his
>>>>Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under
>>>>international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible for him".
>>>>(Principle IV).
>>>>
>>>>Evidence provided by Israeli historian Benny Morris indicates that some
>>>>Israeli leaders and government members, such as Minister Shitrit, were
>>>>shocked by the expulsions from Lydda and Ramleh in 1948 and wanted to stop
>>>>them. Mr. Rabin choose to implement the expulsions by all means in spite of
>>>>such reservations.
>>>>
>>>>Conclusion
>>>>
>>>>There is ample evidence publicly available regarding the responsibility of
>>>>Mr. Yitzhak Rabin, currently Prime Minister of the State of Israel, in
>>>>instigating and ordering acts defined as war crimes in international law.
>>>>Summary of this evidence has been provided in this memorandum as well as a
>>>>short legal discussion.
>>>>
>>>>It is the obligation of the Signatories of the Geneva Conventions to
>>>>initiate legal procedures, either in domestic courts or through a
>>>>collective mechanism under UN auspices, for the prosecution of war
>>>>criminals. This duty is absolute and cannot be waived - legally - by
>>>>political or other considerations. In practice, leading war criminals, such
>>>>as Mr. Rabin, have not been prosecuted but feted. In today's world, it
>>>>seems that one must have committed the most heinous war crimes to be
>>>>awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace. UN members are perceived as acting in
>>>>concert to shield war criminals. Such gross, systematic and persistent
>>>>derelictions by UN member states and signatories of the Geneva Conventions,
>>>>undermine the moral and legal authority of these states to ensure
>>>>international equity and peace. If the lawkeepers are themselves criminal
>>>>or help to shield leading criminals from prosecution, their legitimacy as
>>>>lawkeepers must be challenged for the sake of world peace and justice. Such
>>>>challenge can be moral, legal, political or military, depending on the
>>>>circumstances.
>>>>
>>>>Human rights' and peace organisations who wish to see the rule of law
>>>>supersede the law of the jungle in international affairs and all those who
>>>>struggle for democracy, public accountability and justice, should therefore
>>>>avail themselves of the evidence provided here to publicize Mr. Rabin's
>>>>deeds and press for his apprehension and prosecution, wherever he is to be
>>>>found.
>>>
>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled - as Fertiliser



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 23:47:22 +0800, KenSicko  
tried to write in English, the following:

On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:09:11 +0100, joswig@lavielle.com (Rainer
Joswig) wrote:
>> >On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:24:36 -0600, Ed Kadach 
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>WAS THERE REALLY A HOLOCAUST?
>> >>                   By Dr. E. R. Fields
>
>Wasn't this article written my Dr. I. M. Stupid?
Not unless that is your professional designation and alias.

>On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:24:36 -0600, Ed Kadach 
>wrote:
>
>>WAS THERE REALLY A HOLOCAUST?
>>                   By Dr. E. R. Fields
>>
>>   The Holocaust has become the greatest instrument of sympathy
>>which any nation has ever been able to use to gain support for
>>wars, expansion and foreign-aid: This has made Israel the
>>world's sixth strongest military power. The gravest threat to
>>all this wealth and influence is the growing doubt over the
>>question of whether or not a real holocaust of 6 million Jews
>>actual took place.
>>
>>              NUMBERS OF VICTIMS DON'T ADD UP
>>
>>   The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world
>>Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanacs figures were
>>supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Nest the Jewish owned
>>New York Times of Feb. 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish
>>population for that year amounted "to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000
>>in the addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine."
>>How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war
>>years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?
>>   With the rise of Hitler to power there were no more than 4
>>million Jews at the most living in areas occupied by the Third
>>Reich at the height of its power. On June 30, 1965, the
>>West German government announced that some 3,375,000 Jewish
>>holocaust "survivors" had applied for reparations money. The Red
>>Cross reported in 1946 that of registered Jewish camp inmates no
>>more than 300,000 could have died. It is interesting to note
>>that in the Jews real "bible", The Talmud, it is claimed that
>>800,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Romans in Hadrians era. Yet
>>there is no historical evidence supporting this claim.
>>   The Jewish owned New York Times, in 1945 carried an article
>>by the well known Jewish writer C.L. Sulzberger. It openly
>>stated Soviet Russia supplied the figure of 4 million Jews
>>having been put to death "in the gas chambers of Auschwitz."
>>Thus it was the communists and the Jews who initially originated
>>these figures which today are accepted as "gospel truth".
>>   It is claimed that from 1934 to 1945 some 50,000 people died
>>in the huge Bergen-Belsen camp. This count is considered
>>exaggerated, still Time Magazine reports that of this figure
>>20,000 died of typhus during the single month of March, 1945! If
>>nearly half died of this plague in just one month at the end of
>>the war there is no way Bergen-Belsen could have been an
>>"extermination camp".
>>
>>             HIMMLER-"REDUCE DEATHS AT ALL COSTS"
>>
>>   Heinrich Himmler, chief of the Concentration Camps issued
>>orders on Dec. 28, 1942, that "The death rate in the
>>concentration camps must be reduced at all costs." (Source,
>>Reitlinger's book, "The Final Solution.")
>>   The camps had been hit with a deadly typhus epidemic that
>>spread by fleas and body lice. Stomach pain, high fever,
>>emaciation and death can quickly follow. All of the camps were
>>factories and the loss of workers was hurting war production.
>>Inspector of the camps, Richard Glucks responded to Himmler's
>>order on Jan 20, 1943, "Every means will be used to lower the
>>death rates." (Source, Nuremberg Tribunal Document No. 1523.)
>>   On April 10, 1943, Oswald Pohl, head of the Economic
>>Administration Office of the camps issued a letter stating that
>>persons with tuberculosis were being sent to the camps resulting
>>in the "shockingly high mortality figures." (Source: Nuremberg
>>Documents.) Later on Sept. 30, 1943, Pohl was able to show that
>>the camp death rate had been reduced from 8.5% in July, 1942 to
>>2.8% in June 1943.
>>   The German SS arrested Buchenwald Commandant, Karl Koch in
>>1943 for mistreating and even executing some prisoners. After an
>>investigation Koch was found guilty by SS Judge Konrad Morgen
>>and shot. Does this sound like a policy of "extermination?"
>>   With suspicion rapidly rising about the holocaust claim a
>>committee of Jewish leaders from New York and Paris met with
>>communist leaders in Warsaw. There they established the
>>"Committee for the Investigation of War Crimes and War
>>Criminals". It was after this meeting that the announcement
>>was made that all gas chambers were located in Poland.
>>
>>                  THE  PROBLEMS OF MASS GASSING
>>
>>   In 1945 it was announced that gas death chambers existed in
>>all concentration camps in Poland, Germany, Austria and Alsace.
>>Some 15 years later, in 1960, this was revised to the new claim
>>that gas chambers existed only in camps located in Soviet held
>>Poland. Simon Weisenthal of the Los Angeles Holocaust center
>>states in the paper, "Books and Bookmen", April 1975, page 5,
>>"No gassing took place in any camp on German soil."
>>   The pressure had been growing since The Vatican, Red Cross,
>>English Intelligence and German Intelligence chiefs Canaris and
>>Oster (who collaborated with the British) either did not know or
>>believe in rumors of gassings.
>>
>>   This brings up the following questions.
>>   1) Germans are meticulous record keepers but there is not one
>>order for the construction of any gas chamber, no blueprint, no
>>photo of any gas chamber or gassed victims.
>>   2) There have been thousands on investigations of alleged
>>Nazi war criminals, hundreds of trials, yet not one person was
>>ever accused of being involved with actual gassings! No reliable
>>witness on either side has ever come forward who saw a single
>>person gassed-AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN OVER 10,000
>>MASS GASSINGS!
>>   3) Photos of bodies at Dachau and Belsen camps are of
>>prisoners who died of typhus and malnutrition. Many Germans also
>>died from typhus.
>>   4) The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed
>>camp inmates at the end of the war about alleged gas chambers.
>>the response was always the same, "The detainees themselves have
>>not spoken of them." (From the Red Cross document No. 9925, June
>>1946.)
>>
>>             FORCED CONFESSIONS OF GASSINGS
>>
>>   Rudoft Hoess was the commandant of Auschwitz from 1940 to
>>1943. captured by the Soviets they extracted a confession to
>>mass gassings using Zyclon-B gas. Such "confessions" are about
>>as reliable as any forced by Stalin from victims tortured before
>>taking the stand to confess during the Moscow show trials of
>>1936. The communists wrote the "Confession' and Hoess signed it.
>>Later he was hanged. An assistant commandant refused to sign-he
>>died in his cell.
>>   Hoess statement read, "half an hour after having released the
>>gas, they opened the door and started the ventilation machines.
>>They began immediately to extract the bodies while eating and
>>smoking."
>>   Was Hoess trying to get a message across that there were no
>>gassing? Zyclon-B is not "ventable". The manufacturers state
>>Zyclon-B adheres to surface clothing and skin. They say that
>>only after a 24 hour period, wearing a gas mask with the
>>strongest filter, could any bodies be removed without killing
>>such workers. If we believe the Hoess confession that the
>>workers ran into the gas chamber "eating and smoking" - without
>>gas masks - only minutes after the gassing - IF THIS OCCURRED
>>ALL WOULD HAVE DIED!
>>
>>                    GAS STORIES NOT POSSIBLE
>>
>>   The Jew Mosche Pearlmann in his book, "The Capture and Trial
>>of Adolph Eichmann" pages 375 and 385 states Zyclon-B crystals
>>were introduced from the ceilings of the gas chambers and
>>"became immediately gaseous."
>>   The American Cyanamid Co. of Linden N.J. states: "We know of
>>no chemical process whereby HCN (Zyclon-B) may be made to become
>>instantly gaseous upon exposure to air."
>>
>>                  CLAIMS OF WILLIAM SHIRER
>>
>>   Shirer claims the gas was released from overhead through fake
>>shower outlets, (page 970) and quickly killed its victims. The
>>truth is that Zyclon-B gas is lighter than air and would rise to
>>the ceiling so that anyone throwing themselves to the floor
>>would be saved. Shirer also quotes the Soviet written confession
>>signed by Hoess as stating (page 968), "We knew when the people
>>were dead because their screaming stopped." If anyone were
>>actually killed with a cyanide type gas they would die instantly
>>thus there would be no screaming at all. The truth is that
>>Zyclon-B was used to delouse inmates clothing of lice and fleas
>>which carry typhus.
>>
>>               THE PROBLEM OF THE CREMATORIUMS
>>
>>   At the Auschwitz I camp there were only 6 crematory ovens. At
>>the hospital in Auschwitz II there are 46 single cremators. In
>>the Lubin camp there were only 6. THAT'S ALL!  In these three
>>camps 3 to 4 million Jews were supposed to have been
>>exterminated and their bodies cremated. Also, these cremation
>>ovens were very small with only 18' doors and a time period of
>>from 4 to 6 hours burning for each body using a large amount of
>>coal. Cremation for those who passed away was used in the camps
>>to prevent epidemics. Also, no large supplies of coal were ever
>>stored at the camps for cremations.
>>   A VERY INTERESTING NOTE appears only in the German edition of
>>William L. Shirer's book, "The Rise and Fall of the Third
>>Reich." It seems the Didler-Werke Company, which built the
>>crematory ovens, sued Shirer who previously wrote that millions
>>of people were gassed and then burned in this company's ovens.
>>In an out-of-court settlement of the suit Shirer agreed to add
>>the following footnote on page 972 of the German edition:
>>   "The Didler-Werke have raised objection to the name of their
>>firm appearing in the chapter concerning the extermination
>>camps. Dr. S. Trastel, a professor of engineering in a statement
>>of Aug. 1961 established that the measurements are those which
>>are standard for a crematory oven of not very modern design
>>intended for small cemeteries and would be unsuitable for mass
>>burning."
>>   WHY IS THIS DELETED FROM THE ENGLISH EDITION???
>>   On the question of cremating 6,000,000 people - this would
>>leave 15,000 tons of ashes! Such gigantic piles of ashes created
>>over the short 2 1/2 year period the holocaust supposedly took
>>place would have been very difficult to dispose of. No one has
>>ever come forward to report seeing such huge piles of tons of
>>ashes.
>>   It was not until 1960 that the Soviets opened the Auschwitz
>>camp to tourists and independent investigators. No gas chamber
>>could be found. The official answer was that it was "taken to
>>another camp for gassings and then later went into oblivion!"
>>
>>           WHAT EXPERTS SAY ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST
>>
>>   Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes, eminent historian, author of 40
>>books, many standard college texts, noted in Rampart Journal,
>>1967. "It has been demonstrated that there had been no
>>systematic extermination in those camps."
>>   Thies Christopherden, a German soldier and author: "I was at
>>Auschwitz! There was no gas chamber there."
>>   Paul Rassiner, historian and anti-Nazi activist, who served a
>>prison sentence in Buchenwald and the Dora camps stated in 1962.
>>"The claim that a holocaust took place is an historic lie - the
>>most tragic and most macabre imposture of all time."
>>   Prof. Robert Faurisson, a specialist in Document Analysis at
>>the University of Lyon. France, stated on April 25, 1979. "The
>>holocaust lie, which is largely of Zionist origin, has made an
>>enormous political and financial fraud possible, whose
>>principal beneficiary is the state of Israel."
>>
>>                WHY THE HOLOCAUST CAMPAIGN
>>
>>   Hardly a week goes by when there are not stories in the
>>press, on TV-News or movies about the alleged holocaust. What is
>>the long range design for this constant attempt to fill Germans
>>and indeed all Christians with a feeling of guilt over a
>>holocaust which never occurred?
>>   Bernard Postal wrote in the Jewish Week, July 14, 1979, "Not
>>until after the holocaust, did anti-Semitism become taboo. There
>>was a time when anti-Semitic speeches were an open factor in
>>national campaigns. The holocaust put a taboo on overt anti-
>>Semitism among upper-level statesmen and publicists."
>>   S.E.D. Brown of South Africa, a noted journalist writes, "The
>>holocaust instills a guilt complex in those said to be guilty
>>and spreads the demoralization, degeneration, and eventually the
>>destruction of the natural racial elite among a people. This
>>transfers effective political control to the lowest elements who
>>will cowtow to the Jews."
>>   Zionist spokesmen often boast of: "The shattering effect of
>>the holocaust on the Christian conscience resulting in a feeling
>>of collective indebtedness to the Jews."
>>   Massive unending U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel in made possible
>>because anyone who dares to oppose these outrageous giveaways is
>>condemned as being "anti-Semitic" and "insensitive" to holocaust
>>victims.
>>   The Jews hold an unnatural violent hatred for the German
>>people. Jews seek to turn all other peoples of the world against
>>the Germans and keep that nation divided for all time to come.
>>That is why no peace treaty has ever been signed as yet with
>>Germany and they still live under Allied military occupation
>>laws.
>>
>>                 A QUESTION OF FUND RAISING
>>
>>   The Wall Street Journal quotes Jewish professional fund-
>>raising consultant firm of Milton Goldin Co., as saying the main
>>theme of Jewish fund-raising is the holocaust and has been for
>>38 years. When they don't use the holocaust the money collection
>>sharply drops off. Thus the more the Press, TV and Hollywood
>>promotes the holocaust the more money the United Jewish Appeal
>>and other Zionist funds can extract from gullible people.
>>
>>                 HOLOCAUST SILENCES OPPOSITION
>>
>>   Jewish leaders have discovered that by repeating holocaust
>>stories over and over again they can instill a guilt complex
>>within all Gentiles. This effectively silences most critics of
>>Zionist political goals.
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On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:50:06 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On 20 Oct 1998 14:46:50 GMT, "firefly" 
>wrote:
>
>>THE CROSS IS NOBODY BUSSINESS< IT IS ON  POLAND LAND
>>POLAND HAS THE RIGHT TO PUT WHAT THEY WANT  INSIDE
>>IN THEIR COUNTRY.THIS IS INTERNAL AFFAIR   < IT IS NOT AOUR
>>AFFAIR.COMPRENDE!!!!
>
>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:02 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:05:23, watcher2  wrote:
>>
>>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>>By Sean Maguire
>>>Sept. 14, 1998
>>
>>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz. 
>>
>>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>>>sensitive site. 
>>
>>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>>>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>>>groups. 
>>
>>>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests and must be resolved as
>>>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are beginning to be perceived
>>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' she added. 
>>
>>>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>>>site inevitable. 
>>
>>>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 
>>
>>>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>>>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site. 
>>
>>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex. 
>>
>>>Poland's center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>>>human ashes at Birkenau. 
>>
>>>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar. 
>>
>>>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>>and nationalists. 
>>
>>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>>>forgotten. 
>>
>>>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>>>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>>>be removed. 
>>>
>>>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated. 
>>>
>>>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the answer but the cross, all
>>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>>>the-scene discussion.'' 
>>>
>>>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>>>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, ``But I don't see any
>>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>>>the moment.'' 
>>
>>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 
>>
>>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>>>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>>>and the Jewish diaspora. 
>>
>>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>>>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>>>international funding, are on hold. 
>>
>>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently. 
>>
>>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign. 
>>
>>>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about preserving barbed wire,
>>>concrete, the crematories.'' 
>>
>>>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>>>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda. 
>>
>>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>>>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>>>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' wiping out most of
>>>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 
>>
>>>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>>>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>>>Magdziak-Miszewska. 
>>
>>>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 
>>
>>>``We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>>>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland's tiny
>>>Jewish community.
>



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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:57:37 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:02 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:05:23, watcher2  wrote:
>>
>>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>>By Sean Maguire
>>>Sept. 14, 1998
>>
>>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz. 
>>
>>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>>>sensitive site. 
>>
>>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>>>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>>>groups. 
>>
>>>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests and must be resolved as
>>>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are beginning to be perceived
>>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' she added. 
>>
>>>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>>>site inevitable. 
>>
>>>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 
>>
>>>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>>>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site. 
>>
>>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex. 
>>
>>>Poland's center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>>>human ashes at Birkenau. 
>>
>>>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar. 
>>
>>>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>>and nationalists. 
>>
>>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>>>forgotten. 
>>
>>>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>>>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>>>be removed. 
>>>
>>>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated. 
>>>
>>>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the answer but the cross, all
>>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>>>the-scene discussion.'' 
>>>
>>>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>>>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, ``But I don't see any
>>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>>>the moment.'' 
>>
>>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 
>>
>>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>>>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>>>and the Jewish diaspora. 
>>
>>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>>>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>>>international funding, are on hold. 
>>
>>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently. 
>>
>>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign. 
>>
>>>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about preserving barbed wire,
>>>concrete, the crematories.'' 
>>
>>>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>>>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda. 
>>
>>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>>>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>>>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' wiping out most of
>>>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 
>>
>>>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>>>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>>>Magdziak-Miszewska. 
>>
>>>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 
>>
>>>``We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>>>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland's tiny
>>>Jewish community.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>



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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:31:38 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:27:07 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>
>>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>>>reconsidered by thinking readers.
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>>>Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org
>>>>
>>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>>>>From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>>
>>>
>>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
>>>	
>>>>	One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian
>>>>Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
>>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>>
>>>>	First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
>>>>Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 
>>>
>>>>	While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
>>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>>Archives:         
>>>        
>>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
>>>         
>>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        
>>>
>>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>>Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
>>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type." 
>>>       
>>>         
>>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were 384
>>>>`commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>>Government."         
>>>
>>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>>Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
>>>>Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>>Moisei Uritsky. 
>>>
>>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 
>>>
>>>>The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>>"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things." 
>>>
>>>>In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>>here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress: 
>>>
>>>>"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>>Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest
>>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>>Gordon. 
>>>
>>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>>often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>>all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>>were Jews. 
>>>
>>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>>did not take kindly to it." 
>>>
>>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>>"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
>>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>>
>>>>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
>>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 
>>>
>>>>"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>>4, 1919) 
>>>	
>>>>"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>>
>>>>"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>>the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 
>>>
>>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>>so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>>himself:
>>>
>>>>"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>>cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>>penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>>
>>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>>virtually untouched.
>>>
>>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
>>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>>American professor of Russian history. . . "  
>>>
>>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>>Communist bosses.
>>> 
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Roger Hughes
>>>
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People 
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>                http://www.natall.com  
>>>>                http://www.natvan.com
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>     Roger's Page  http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/
>>>>      Keep It White Because You Know It's Right!
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed.
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



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Another JEW Rabbi in NY state has been caught  dealing drugs - this
time inside a prison!!!

Rabbi Eli Gottesman,a chaplain at a federal medium security prison at
Ray Brook, NY got caught with a large bottle filled with sealed
balloons of cocaine and marijuana.

He is a former head of the "who's Who in canadian Jewry", and has been
a chaplain of the year named by the NY Board of rabbis.



On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:52:54 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:

>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>Christ.

>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>business.
>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:

>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
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2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering

By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997

NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to
launder  and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian
narcotics dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a
synagogue and a yeshiva in Brooklyn. 

The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought
together a collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York
representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who
purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with
ties to a close-knit Jewish community. 

 At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions
of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively
modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from
American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the
Colombian drug lords. 

"Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
traffickers, and the  cynical act of using religious institutions to
conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary
Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in
announcing the charges. 

Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford
Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in
Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day
before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy
to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of
5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid
federal cash-transaction reporting requirements. 

Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of
320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was
released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal
complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in
custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst,
the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case. 

Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used
court-authorize wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint
charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by
taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a
synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting commissions,
writing checks to drug traffickers. 

Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the
name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation
Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more
than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering
transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996. 

Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to
have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and
Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in
drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000
-- the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting
requirement -- through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim
and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location. 

The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was
listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of
people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything
about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim
Shel Shulem. 

The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick
front and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in
Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz
Family of Mexico Building." 

In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people
were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who
would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis
named in the federal complaint. 

The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's
Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service
-- began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in
various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
officials said. 

With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other
techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in
which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in
deposits and withdrawals -- transactions, they said, that let the
conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits. 

Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in
Monday's complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five
of them -- Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio
Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to
have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to
launder. 

The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack
Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40,
and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted
and stashed the money at an apartment at  243 West 75th St. 

There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was
later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel
Shulem.

Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made
out to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions,"
the federal complaint said. 

Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no
formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said.
Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the
laundered money and divided among the intermediaries. 

Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
community came  into contact with professional money launderers and
drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and
Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy
a Beech Super King aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
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On Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:20:49 +0100, "Ulf Alexandersson"
 wrote:

>iearn wrote:
>>> Jews are greedy, they murdered Jesus, now Jews murdering Arabs.
>>> What next?
>>
>>Next!?  You and Me; just wait they claim that they are the chosen
>>people.
>
>
>Something reminds me of Manifest Destiny. People who believed in that caused
>the native-american genocides. In another shape, continued directly with
>Hiroshima, Corea, Vietnam. Indirectly to mass-slaughter in Latin America,
>East-Timor, Laos.. Jesus was a Jew, and I think it's tragic how christianity
>has caused the hostility towards Jews throughout history. I don't like their
>treatment of palestinians, but that is definately NOT a reason to support
>anti-semitism.



How can it be anti-semitism, when one supports the descendants of Ham,
being the Arabs?

Opposing Zionist Jews is not the same as anti-semitism, despite what
the Christkillers would claim.



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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:11:32 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wanted to
write, to stimulate more discussion, since it is a supporter of JEW
murders,child molesters, faggots and similar subhumans:

>In article ,
>  "AussiCro"  wrote:
>> anti-Semites GET OF aus.politics!
On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:30:14 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:08:03 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>
>>From swoj@no6million.com Sat Sep 13 17:14:03 1997
>>
>>Subject: [Fwd: 66 Questions and Answers on the Holocaust]
>>Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 18:14:03 -0500
>>
>>Laura is my kind of gal... she has many a valid point in the following
>>post.  In fact, 66 valid points.  Don't know why she
>>didn't post this to alt.revisionism, so I will do the honors..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Sixty-six Questions and Answers on the Holocaust
>>------------------------------------------------
>>
>>1. What proof exists that the Nazis killed six million Jews? 
>>
>>None. All we have is postwar testimony, mostly of individual 
>>"survivors." This testimony is contradictory, and very few claim to have 
>>actually witnessed any "gassing." There are no contemporaneous documents 
>>or hard evidence: no mounds of ashes, no crematories capable of 
>>disposing of millions of corpses, no "human soap," no lamp shades made 
>>of human skin, and no credible demographic statistics. 
>>
>>2. What evidence exists that six million Jews were not killed by the 
>>Nazis? 
>>
>>Extensive forensic, demographic, analytical and comparative evidence 
>>demonstrates the impossibility of such a figure. The widely repeated 
>>"six million" figure is an irresponsible exaggeration. 
>>
>>3. Did Simon Wiesenthal state in writing that "there were no 
>>extermination camps on German soil"? 
>>
>>Yes. The famous "Nazi hunter" wrote this in Stars and Stripes, Jan. 24, 
>>1993. He also claimed that "gassings" of Jews took place only in Poland. 
>>
>>4. If Dachau was in Germany, and even Wiesenthal says that it was not an 
>>extermination camp, why do many American veterans say it was an 
>>extermination camp? 
>>
>>After the Allies captured Dachau, many GIs and others were led through 
>>the camp and shown a building alleged to have been a "gas chamber." The 
>>mass media widely, but falsely, continues to assert that Dachau was a 
>>"gassing" camp. 
>>
>>5. What about Auschwitz? Is there any proof that gas chambers were used 
>>to kill people there? 
>>
>>No. Auschwitz, captured by the Soviets, was modified after the war, and 
>>a room was reconstructed to look like a large "gas chamber." After 
>>America's leading expert on gas chamber construction and design, Fred 
>>Leuchter, examined this and other alleged Auschwitz gassing facilities, 
>>he stated that it was an "absurdity" to claim that they were, or could 
>>have been, used for executions. 
>>
>>6. If Auschwitz wasn't a "death camp," what was its true purpose? 
>>It was an internment center and part of a large-scale manufacturing 
>>complex. Synthetic fuel was produced there, and its inmates were used as 
>>a workforce. 
>>
>>7. Who set up the first concentration camps? 
>>During the Boer War (1899-1902), the British set up what they called 
>>"concentration camps" in South Africa to hold Afrikaner women and 
>>children. Approximately 30,000 died in these hell-holes, which were as 
>>terrible as German concentration camps of World War II. 
>>
>>8. How did German concentration camps differ from American "relocation" 
>>camps in which Japanese-Americans were interned during WWII? 
>>
>>The only significant difference was that the Germans interned persons on 
>>the basis of being real or suspected security threats to the German war 
>>effort, whereas the Roosevelt administration interned persons on the 
>>basis of race alone. 
>>
>>9. Why did the German government intern Jews in camps? 
>>
>>It considered Jews a direct threat to national security. (Jews were 
>>overwhelmingly represented in Communist subversion.) However, all 
>>suspected security risks -- not just Jews -- were in danger of 
>>internment. 
>>
>>10. What hostile measure did world Jewry undertake against Germany as 
>>early as 1933? 
>>
>>In March 1933, international Jewish organizations declared an 
>>international boycott of German goods. 
>>
>>11. Did the Jews of the world "declare war on Germany"? 
>>
>>Yes. Newspapers around the world reported this. A front-page headline in 
>>the London Daily Express (March 24, 1933), for example, announced "Judea 
>>Declares War on Germany." 
>>
>>12. Was this before or after the "death camp" stories began? 
>>
>>This was years before the "death camp" stories, which began in 
>>1941-1942. 
>>
>>13. What nation is credited with being the first to practice mass 
>>civilian bombing? 
>>
>>Britain -- on May 11, 1940. 
>>
>>14. How many "gas chambers" to kill people were there at Auschwitz? 
>>None. 
>>
>>15. How many Jews were living in the areas that came under German 
>>control during the war? 
>>
>>Fewer than six million. 
>>
>>16. If the Jews of Europe were not exterminated by the Nazis, what 
>>happened to them? 
>>
>>After the war millions of Jews were still alive in Europe. Hundreds of 
>>thousands (perhaps as many as one and a half million) had died of all 
>>causes during the war. Others had emigrated to Palestine, the United 
>>States, and other countries. Still more Jews left Europe after the war. 
>>
>>17. How many Jews fled or were evacuated to deep within the Soviet 
>>Union? 
>>
>>More than two million fled or were evacuated by the Soviets in 
>>1941-1942. These Jews thus never came under German control. 
>>
>>18. How many Jews emigrated from Europe prior to the war, thus putting 
>>them outside of German reach? 
>>
>>Perhaps a million (not including those absorbed by the USSR). 
>>
>>19. If Auschwitz was not an extermination camp, why did the commandant, 
>>Rudolf Hoess, confess that it was? 
>>
>>He was tortured by British military police, as one of his interrogators 
>>later admitted. 
>>
>>20. Is there any evidence of American, British and Soviet policy to 
>>torture German prisoners in order to exact "confessions" for use at the 
>>trials at Nuremberg and elsewhere? 
>>
>>Yes. Torture was extensively used to produce fraudulent "evidence" for 
>>the infamous Nuremberg trials, and in other postwar "war crimes" trials. 
>>
>>21. How does the Holocaust story benefit Jews today? 
>>
>>It helps protect Jews as a group from criticism. As a kind of secular 
>>religion, it provides an emotional bond between Jews and their leaders. 
>>It is a powerful tool in Jewish money-raising campaigns, and is used to 
>>justify US aid to Israel. 
>>
>>22. How does it benefit the State of Israel? 
>>
>>It justifies the billions of dollars in "reparations" Germany has paid 
>>to Israel and many individual "survivors." It is used by the 
>>Zionist/Israeli lobby to dictate a pro-Israel American foreign policy in 
>>the Middle East, and to force American taxpayer aid to Israel, totaling 
>>billions of dollars per year. 
>>
>>23. How is it used by many Christian clergymen? 
>>
>>The Holocaust story is cited to justify the Old Testament notion of Jews 
>>as a holy and eternally persecuted "Chosen People." 
>>
>>24. How did it benefit the Communists? 
>>
>>It diverted attention from Soviet war mongering and atrocities before, 
>>during and after the Second World War. 
>>
>>25. How does it benefit Britain? 
>>
>>In much the same way it benefitted the Soviet Union. 
>>
>>26. Is there any evidence that Hitler ordered mass extermination of 
>>Jews? 
>>
>>No. 
>>
>>27. What kind of gas was used in German wartime concentration camps? 
>>Hydrocyanic gas from "Zyklon B," a commercial pesticide that was widely 
>>used throughout Europe. 
>>
>>28. For what purpose was "Zyklon B" manufactured? 
>>
>>It was a pesticide used to fumigate clothing and quarters to kill 
>>typhus-bearing lice and other pests. 
>>
>>29. Was this product suitable for mass extermination? 
>>
>>No. If the Nazis had intended to use poison gas to exterminate people, 
>>far more efficient products were available. Zyklon is a slow-acting 
>>fumigation agent. 
>>
>>30. How long does it take to ventilate an area after fumigation with 
>>Zyklon B? 
>>
>>Normally about 20 hours. The whole procedure is very complicated and 
>>dangerous. Gas masks must be used, and only trained technicians are 
>>employed. 
>>
>>31. Auschwitz commandant Hoess said that his men would enter the "gas 
>>chambers" to remove bodies ten minutes after the victims had died. How 
>>do you explain this? 
>>
>>It can't be explained because had they done so they would have suffered 
>>the same fate as the "gassing" victims. 
>>
>>32. Hoess said in his "confession" that his men would smoke cigarettes 
>>as they pulled bodies out of gas chambers, ten minutes after gassing. 
>>Isn't Zyklon B explosive? 
>>
>>Yes. The Hoess confession is obviously false. 
>>
>>33. What was the exact procedure the Nazis allegedly used to exterminate 
>>Jews? 
>>
>>The stories range from dropping gas canisters into a crowded room from a 
>>hole in the ceiling, to piping gas through shower heads, to "steam 
>>chambers," to "electrocution" machinery. Millions are alleged to have 
>>been killed in these ways. 
>>
>>34. How could a mass extermination program have been kept secret from 
>>those who were scheduled to be killed? 
>>
>>It couldn't have been kept secret. The fact is that there were no mass 
>>gassings. The extermination stories originated as wartime atrocity 
>>propaganda. 
>>
>>35. If Jews scheduled for execution knew the fate in store for them, why 
>>did they go along with the Germans without resisting? 
>>They didn't fight back because they did not believe there was any 
>>intention to kill them. 
>>
>>36. About how many Jews died in the concentration camps? 
>>
>>Competent estimates range from about 300,000 to 500,000. 
>>
>>37. How did they die? 
>>
>>Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn Europe 
>>during the war, as well as from starvation and lack of medical attention 
>>during the final months of the conflict, when virtually all road and 
>>rail transportation had been bombed out by the Allies.
>> 
>>38. What is typhus? 
>>
>>This disease always appears when many people are jammed together under 
>>unsanitary conditions. It is carried by lice that infest hair and 
>>clothes. Ironically, if the Germans had used more Zyklon B, more Jews 
>>might have survived the camps. 
>>
>>39. What is the difference if six million or 300,000 Jews died during 
>>the Second World War? 
>>
>>5,700,000. 
>>
>>40. Some Jewish "death camp" survivors say they saw bodies being dumped 
>>into pits and burned. How much fuel would have been required for this? 
>>A great deal more than the Germans had access to, as there was a 
>>substantial fuel shortage during the war. 
>>
>>41. Can bodies be burned in pits? 
>>
>>No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by flames 
>>in this manner because of lack of oxygen.
>> 
>>42. Holocaust historians claim that the Nazis were able to cremate 
>>bodies in about ten minutes. How long does it take to incinerate one 
>>body, according to professional crematory operators? 
>>
>>About an hour and a half, although the larger bones require further 
>>processing afterwards. 
>>
>>43. Why did the German concentration camps have crematory ovens? 
>>To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses of those who had 
>>died. 
>>
>>44. Given a 100 percent duty cycle of all the crematories in all the 
>>camps in German-controlled territory, what is the maximum number of 
>>corpses it would have been possible to incinerate during the entire 
>>period such crematories were in operation? 
>>
>>About 430,600. 
>>
>>45. Can a crematory oven be operated 100 percent of the time? 
>>No. Fifty percent of the time is a generous estimate (12 hours per day). 
>>Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly when in 
>>heavy operation. 
>>
>>46. How much ash is left from a cremated corpse? 
>>
>>After the bone is all ground down, about a shoe box full. 
>>
>>47. If six million people had been incinerated by the Nazis, what 
>>happened to the ashes? 
>>
>>That remains to be "explained." Six million bodies would have produced 
>>many tons of ashes, yet there is no evidence of any large ash 
>>depositories. 
>>
>>48. Do Allied wartime aerial reconnaissance photos of Auschwitz (taken 
>>during the period when the "gas chambers" and crematoria were supposedly 
>>in full operation) show evidence of extermination? 
>>
>>No. In fact, these photographs do not even reveal a trace of the 
>>enormous amount of smoke that supposedly was constantly over the camp, 
>>nor do they show evidence of the "open pits" in which bodies were 
>>allegedly burned. 
>>
>>49. What was the main provision of the German "Nuremberg Laws" of 1935? 
>>
>>They forbid marriage and sexual relations between Germans and Jews, 
>>similar to laws existing in Israel today. 
>>
>>50. Were there any American precedents for the Nuremberg Laws? 
>>
>>Years before Hitler's Third Reich, most states in the USA had enacted 
>>laws prohibiting marriage between persons of different races. 
>>
>>51. What did the International Red Cross have to report with regard to 
>>the "Holocaust" question? 
>>
>>An official report on the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in 
>>September 1944 pointed out that internees were permitted to receive 
>>packages, and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. 
>>
>>52. What was the role of the Vatican during the time six million Jews 
>>were allegedly being exterminated? 
>>
>>If there had been an extermination plan, the Vatican would most 
>>certainly have been in a position to know about it. But because there 
>>was none, the Vatican had no reason to speak out against it, and didn't. 
>>
>>53. What evidence is there that Hitler knew of an on-going Jewish 
>>extermination program? 
>>
>>None. 
>>
>>54. Did the Nazis and the Zionists collaborate? 
>>
>>As early as 1933, Hitler's government signed an agreement with the 
>>Zionists permitting Jews to emigrate from Germany to Palestine, taking 
>>large amounts of capital with them. 
>>
>>55. How did Anne Frank die?
>> 
>>After surviving internment in Auschwitz, she succumbed to typhus in the 
>>Bergen-Belsen camp, just a few weeks before the end of the war. The was 
>>not gassed. 
>>
>>56. Is the Anne Frank Diary genuine? 
>>
>>No. Evidence compiled by Dr. Robert Faurisson of France establishes that 
>>the famous diary is a literary hoax. 
>>
>>57. What about the familiar photographs and film footage taken in the 
>>liberated German camps showing piles of emaciated corpses? Are these 
>>faked? 
>>
>>Photographs can be faked, but it's far easier merely to add a misleading 
>>caption to a photo or commentary to a piece of footage. Piles of 
>>emaciated corpses do not mean that these people were "gassed" or 
>>deliberately starved to death. Actually, these were tragic victims of 
>>raging epidemics or of starvation due to a lack of food in the camps 
>>toward the end of the war. 
>>
>>58. Who originated the term "genocide"? 
>>
>>Raphael Lemkin, a Polish Jew, in a book published in 1944. 
>>
>>59. Are films such as "Schindler's List" or "The Winds of War" 
>>documentaries? 
>>
>>No. Such films are fictional dramatizations loosely based on history. 
>>Unfortunately, all too many people accept them as accurate historical 
>>representations.
>> 
>>60. How many books have been published that refute some aspect of the 
>>standard "Holocaust" story? 
>>
>>Dozens. More are in production.
>> 
>>61. What happened when the Institute for Historical Review offered 
>>$50,000 to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz?
>> 
>>No proof was submitted as a claim on the reward, but the Institute was 
>>sued for $17 million by former Auschwitz inmate Mel Mermelstein, who 
>>claimed that the reward offer caused him to lose sleep and his business 
>>to suffer, and represented "injurious denial of established fact." 
>>
>>62. What about the charge that those who question the Holocaust story 
>>are merely anti-Semitic or neo-Nazi? 
>>
>>This is a smear designed to draw attention away from facts and honest 
>>arguments. Scholars who refute Holocaust story claims are of all 
>>persuasions and ethnic-religious backgrounds (including Jewish). There 
>>is no correlation between "Holocaust" refutation and anti-Semitism or
>>"neo-Naziism".
>>
>>63. What has happened to "revisionist" historians who have challenged 
>>the Holocaust story? 
>>
>>They have been subjected to smear campaigns, loss of academic positions, 
>>loss of pensions, destruction of their property and physical violence. 
>>
>>64. Has the Institute for Historical Review suffered any retaliation for 
>>its efforts to uphold the right of freedom of speech and academic 
>>freedom?
>> 
>>The IHR had been bombed three times, and was completely destroyed on 
>>July 4, 1984, in a criminal arson attack. Numerous death threats by 
>>telephone have been received. Media coverage of the IHR has been 
>>overwhelmingly hostile. 
>>
>>65. Why is there so little publicity for the revisionist view? 
>>Because for political reasons the Establishment does not want any 
>>in-depth discussion about the facts surrounding the Holocaust story. 
>>
>>66. Where can I get more information about the "other side" of the 
>>Holocaust story, as well as facts concerning other aspects of World War 
>>II historical revisionism? 
>>
>>The Institute for Historical Review, P.O. Box 2739, Newport Beach, CA 
>>92659, carries a wide variety of books, cassette and video tapes on 
>>significant historical subjects. 
>>
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>>
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>>and video tapes, send one dollar to: 
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>>
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>>
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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:02:36 +1100, simple fact 
wrote:
>David Swafford wrote:

>> If one can wipe out the Holocaust, an event in recent history about which we
>> have eyewitness and survivor accounts,
>
>!!???
>
>> then everything before that is up for
>> grabs as well.

>Their are many grabs in the jewish history.

>> God said to Abraham,
>
>To Abraham not to the jewish people.
>
>> "I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you
>> I will curse" (Genesis 12:3).  Hitler signed his own death sentence and that of
>> his
>> country when he lifted up his hand against the Jew.  He serves as a warning to
>> those who would follow his example.
>
>The jewish followed Hitler example see the following link to know how they did.
> http://www.hoffman-info.com/palestine.html

On Wed, 04 Nov 1998 16:03:23 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:42:53 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>>On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>>trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
>>On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>>>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>Orest Slepokura  wrote:
>>...fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
>> Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews...
>>
>>Here  is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
>>
>>The Kastner Case
>>
>>                              
>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>>involving a Jew - Rudolf Kastner.
>>
>>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
>>are generally under the impression that there is some 'controversy'
>>about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of Jewish lives for
>>money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully rehabilitated'
>>by the Supreme Court of Israel.
>>
>>                              The Accusations
>>
>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>>
>>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
>>Herald, he wrote:
>>
>>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>>
>>This  group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>>Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
>>silence.
>>
>>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
>>Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the
>>number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
>>exterminations.
>>
>>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
>>was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>>Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>>chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>>
>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>>bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
>>With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
>>when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...(Ben
>>Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)
>>
>>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>>
>>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
>>operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
>>elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's directive I now concentrated on
>>negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest...Among
>>them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
>>Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
>>lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
>>resisting deportation - and even keep order in the collection camps -
>>if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
>>Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>>
>>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
>>not too high for me.
>>
>>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
>>case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
>>and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>>
>>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>>
>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>>goal 'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>>group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
>>helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
>>escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
>>or so Jews...That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner
>>(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>
>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to 'the purchase
>>of  Jewish lives for money and military equipment'.
>>
>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>
>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
>>prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
>>Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
>>the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>
>>                                The Verdict
>>
>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel's District Court
>>of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>
>>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied carefully.
>>
>>The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence  in the false information that they were being transferred
>>to Kenyermeze.
>>
>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>
>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
>>mislead the Jews.
>>
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of Jewish leaders.
>>
>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>>
>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>>
>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering the deportation orders.
>>
>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
>>overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
>>activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>
>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>
>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
>>leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their
>>community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
>>Rescue train.
>>
>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
>>Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
>>The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
>>they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
>>will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
>>Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
>>the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
>>
>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>
>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task easier.
>>
>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>chiefs
>>.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.
>>
>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
>>S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>
>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>>
>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>>annihilation.
>>
>>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
>>Jews.
>>
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
>>a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
>>that would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with
>>Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>
>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to the German Satan.
>>
>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
>>whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
>>great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
>>on the other hand.
>>
>>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
>>was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
>>the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
>>fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
>>the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
>>already been wiped out from the book of the living.
>>
>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
>>not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
>>the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
>>chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>
>>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to evade this truth.
>>
>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
>>quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
>>124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
>>Jerusalem, June 22,1955).
>>
>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>
>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>
>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.
>>
>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.
>>
>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>>
>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
>>S.S.
>>
>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>
>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler".
>>
>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when he denied he had interceded in Becher's behalf. Moreover, he
>>concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
>>of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>
>>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
>>prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
>>negate the affidavit.
>>
>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.
>>
>>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation
>>in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
>>last minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one
>>overwhelming truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>
>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>>declared in the affidavit.
>>
>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>>and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one
>>moment the good intention of good Becher'.
>>
>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
>>the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
>>were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
>>there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
>>criminal. Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
>>affidavit given in favor of a war
>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>
>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his statements." 
>>
>>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
>>unproved accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from
>>his Nazi 
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>>pounds as court costs.
>>
>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to much more than that.
>>
>>But the story does not end there.
>> 
>>The Reaction
>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>
>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June
>>1955)
>>
>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.
>>
>>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>>
>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>>disclose." (23 June 1955)
>>
>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
>>criminal libel.
>>
>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an
>>appeal filed.
>>
>>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
>>such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>
>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was defending Kastner so strongly:
>>
>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
>>come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
>>institutions."(Hecht, p. 268)
>>
>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.
>>
>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But the story gets worse.
>>
>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>the  name  of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
>>this point  Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
>>'fully rehabilitated'.
>>
>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>court - that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
>>take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
>>'fully rehabilitated'.
>>                        
>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
>>two, found that Kastner's actions were morally justifiable and
>>convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
>>'collaboration'.
>>
>>Kastner's actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
>>that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>
>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>Kastner. They joined him.
>>
>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:
>>
>>....What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
>>the end of their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
>>saying, 'The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
>>tree'. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
>>witness about the Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in
>>Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a
>>Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).
>>
>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
>>with force against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view
>>no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
>>news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
>>can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>
>>....And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
>>result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
>>Jewish community.
>>
>>Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
>>and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
>>that Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
>>scale...And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
>>very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
>>knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
>>save a few Jews from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his
>>hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
>>their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>
>>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
>>question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
>>a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
>>should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
>>awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
>>although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
>>many or should he disclose
>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
>>will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I
>>said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
>>President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
>>me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
>>demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
>>
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
>>leadership both from a moral and public point of view...
>>
>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
>>extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
>>Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
>>gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
>>what was known to them and did not warn
>>and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>>
>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
>>Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
>>people in Hungary during the last war." (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>
>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
>>exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did -
>>concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
>>Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
>>Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different train for Palestine.
>>
>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>Silberg:
>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
>>have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
>>dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
>>judgements on the guilt of others....
>>
>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
>>ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
>>he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
>>of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
>>of the few - therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
>>accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
>>extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
>>result.'
>>
>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
>>the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
>>emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
>>had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
>>thousands would have been able
>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
>>money, bribery,etc. - and when this is the case and when one deals
>>with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
>>reject with complete certainty and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency
>>of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
>>thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God? 
>>Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
>>to a claim of such good faith...
>>
>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
>>will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
>>as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
>>the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>
>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
>>rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>
>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
>>make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
>>his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
>>many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
>>escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
>>these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
>>proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
>>claim that Kastner had concealed the
>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
>>and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>>
>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>
>>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - nor small
>>revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
>>working  smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>>from the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional
>>proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
>>tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
>>occupation.
>>
>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
>>proof of  evidence for this.
>>
>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>
>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
>>great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
>>eyes...I couldn't base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
>>been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
>>of events it throws retroactive
>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion."(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>
>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
>>have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
>>advocate collaboration with the Nazis.
>>
>>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>>
>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>
>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>
>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
>>to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
>>and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>
>>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West Germany.
>>
>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>>fear of what might come out.
>>
>>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
>>on trial .
>>
>>Let alone the hundreds of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure
>>the  Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
>>Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
>>eventually to Palestine.
>>
>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
>>leadership in Palestine. He is 'now dead'. Or putting it less
>>delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein - immediately
>>after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
>>'rehabilitating' him was delivered.
>>
>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>of the  Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
>>'fantastic allegation' no doubt; but admitted in court during the
>>murder trial).
>>
>>
>>sven88



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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:11:32 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wanted to
write, to stimulate more discussion, since it is a supporter of JEW
murders,child molesters, faggots and similar subhumans:

>In article ,
>  "AussiCro"  wrote:
>> anti-Semites GET OF aus.politics!
On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:30:14 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:08:03 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>
>>From swoj@no6million.com Sat Sep 13 17:14:03 1997
>>
>>Subject: [Fwd: 66 Questions and Answers on the Holocaust]
>>Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 18:14:03 -0500
>>
>>Laura is my kind of gal... she has many a valid point in the following
>>post.  In fact, 66 valid points.  Don't know why she
>>didn't post this to alt.revisionism, so I will do the honors..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Sixty-six Questions and Answers on the Holocaust
>>------------------------------------------------
>>
>>1. What proof exists that the Nazis killed six million Jews? 
>>
>>None. All we have is postwar testimony, mostly of individual 
>>"survivors." This testimony is contradictory, and very few claim to have 
>>actually witnessed any "gassing." There are no contemporaneous documents 
>>or hard evidence: no mounds of ashes, no crematories capable of 
>>disposing of millions of corpses, no "human soap," no lamp shades made 
>>of human skin, and no credible demographic statistics. 
>>
>>2. What evidence exists that six million Jews were not killed by the 
>>Nazis? 
>>
>>Extensive forensic, demographic, analytical and comparative evidence 
>>demonstrates the impossibility of such a figure. The widely repeated 
>>"six million" figure is an irresponsible exaggeration. 
>>
>>3. Did Simon Wiesenthal state in writing that "there were no 
>>extermination camps on German soil"? 
>>
>>Yes. The famous "Nazi hunter" wrote this in Stars and Stripes, Jan. 24, 
>>1993. He also claimed that "gassings" of Jews took place only in Poland. 
>>
>>4. If Dachau was in Germany, and even Wiesenthal says that it was not an 
>>extermination camp, why do many American veterans say it was an 
>>extermination camp? 
>>
>>After the Allies captured Dachau, many GIs and others were led through 
>>the camp and shown a building alleged to have been a "gas chamber." The 
>>mass media widely, but falsely, continues to assert that Dachau was a 
>>"gassing" camp. 
>>
>>5. What about Auschwitz? Is there any proof that gas chambers were used 
>>to kill people there? 
>>
>>No. Auschwitz, captured by the Soviets, was modified after the war, and 
>>a room was reconstructed to look like a large "gas chamber." After 
>>America's leading expert on gas chamber construction and design, Fred 
>>Leuchter, examined this and other alleged Auschwitz gassing facilities, 
>>he stated that it was an "absurdity" to claim that they were, or could 
>>have been, used for executions. 
>>
>>6. If Auschwitz wasn't a "death camp," what was its true purpose? 
>>It was an internment center and part of a large-scale manufacturing 
>>complex. Synthetic fuel was produced there, and its inmates were used as 
>>a workforce. 
>>
>>7. Who set up the first concentration camps? 
>>During the Boer War (1899-1902), the British set up what they called 
>>"concentration camps" in South Africa to hold Afrikaner women and 
>>children. Approximately 30,000 died in these hell-holes, which were as 
>>terrible as German concentration camps of World War II. 
>>
>>8. How did German concentration camps differ from American "relocation" 
>>camps in which Japanese-Americans were interned during WWII? 
>>
>>The only significant difference was that the Germans interned persons on 
>>the basis of being real or suspected security threats to the German war 
>>effort, whereas the Roosevelt administration interned persons on the 
>>basis of race alone. 
>>
>>9. Why did the German government intern Jews in camps? 
>>
>>It considered Jews a direct threat to national security. (Jews were 
>>overwhelmingly represented in Communist subversion.) However, all 
>>suspected security risks -- not just Jews -- were in danger of 
>>internment. 
>>
>>10. What hostile measure did world Jewry undertake against Germany as 
>>early as 1933? 
>>
>>In March 1933, international Jewish organizations declared an 
>>international boycott of German goods. 
>>
>>11. Did the Jews of the world "declare war on Germany"? 
>>
>>Yes. Newspapers around the world reported this. A front-page headline in 
>>the London Daily Express (March 24, 1933), for example, announced "Judea 
>>Declares War on Germany." 
>>
>>12. Was this before or after the "death camp" stories began? 
>>
>>This was years before the "death camp" stories, which began in 
>>1941-1942. 
>>
>>13. What nation is credited with being the first to practice mass 
>>civilian bombing? 
>>
>>Britain -- on May 11, 1940. 
>>
>>14. How many "gas chambers" to kill people were there at Auschwitz? 
>>None. 
>>
>>15. How many Jews were living in the areas that came under German 
>>control during the war? 
>>
>>Fewer than six million. 
>>
>>16. If the Jews of Europe were not exterminated by the Nazis, what 
>>happened to them? 
>>
>>After the war millions of Jews were still alive in Europe. Hundreds of 
>>thousands (perhaps as many as one and a half million) had died of all 
>>causes during the war. Others had emigrated to Palestine, the United 
>>States, and other countries. Still more Jews left Europe after the war. 
>>
>>17. How many Jews fled or were evacuated to deep within the Soviet 
>>Union? 
>>
>>More than two million fled or were evacuated by the Soviets in 
>>1941-1942. These Jews thus never came under German control. 
>>
>>18. How many Jews emigrated from Europe prior to the war, thus putting 
>>them outside of German reach? 
>>
>>Perhaps a million (not including those absorbed by the USSR). 
>>
>>19. If Auschwitz was not an extermination camp, why did the commandant, 
>>Rudolf Hoess, confess that it was? 
>>
>>He was tortured by British military police, as one of his interrogators 
>>later admitted. 
>>
>>20. Is there any evidence of American, British and Soviet policy to 
>>torture German prisoners in order to exact "confessions" for use at the 
>>trials at Nuremberg and elsewhere? 
>>
>>Yes. Torture was extensively used to produce fraudulent "evidence" for 
>>the infamous Nuremberg trials, and in other postwar "war crimes" trials. 
>>
>>21. How does the Holocaust story benefit Jews today? 
>>
>>It helps protect Jews as a group from criticism. As a kind of secular 
>>religion, it provides an emotional bond between Jews and their leaders. 
>>It is a powerful tool in Jewish money-raising campaigns, and is used to 
>>justify US aid to Israel. 
>>
>>22. How does it benefit the State of Israel? 
>>
>>It justifies the billions of dollars in "reparations" Germany has paid 
>>to Israel and many individual "survivors." It is used by the 
>>Zionist/Israeli lobby to dictate a pro-Israel American foreign policy in 
>>the Middle East, and to force American taxpayer aid to Israel, totaling 
>>billions of dollars per year. 
>>
>>23. How is it used by many Christian clergymen? 
>>
>>The Holocaust story is cited to justify the Old Testament notion of Jews 
>>as a holy and eternally persecuted "Chosen People." 
>>
>>24. How did it benefit the Communists? 
>>
>>It diverted attention from Soviet war mongering and atrocities before, 
>>during and after the Second World War. 
>>
>>25. How does it benefit Britain? 
>>
>>In much the same way it benefitted the Soviet Union. 
>>
>>26. Is there any evidence that Hitler ordered mass extermination of 
>>Jews? 
>>
>>No. 
>>
>>27. What kind of gas was used in German wartime concentration camps? 
>>Hydrocyanic gas from "Zyklon B," a commercial pesticide that was widely 
>>used throughout Europe. 
>>
>>28. For what purpose was "Zyklon B" manufactured? 
>>
>>It was a pesticide used to fumigate clothing and quarters to kill 
>>typhus-bearing lice and other pests. 
>>
>>29. Was this product suitable for mass extermination? 
>>
>>No. If the Nazis had intended to use poison gas to exterminate people, 
>>far more efficient products were available. Zyklon is a slow-acting 
>>fumigation agent. 
>>
>>30. How long does it take to ventilate an area after fumigation with 
>>Zyklon B? 
>>
>>Normally about 20 hours. The whole procedure is very complicated and 
>>dangerous. Gas masks must be used, and only trained technicians are 
>>employed. 
>>
>>31. Auschwitz commandant Hoess said that his men would enter the "gas 
>>chambers" to remove bodies ten minutes after the victims had died. How 
>>do you explain this? 
>>
>>It can't be explained because had they done so they would have suffered 
>>the same fate as the "gassing" victims. 
>>
>>32. Hoess said in his "confession" that his men would smoke cigarettes 
>>as they pulled bodies out of gas chambers, ten minutes after gassing. 
>>Isn't Zyklon B explosive? 
>>
>>Yes. The Hoess confession is obviously false. 
>>
>>33. What was the exact procedure the Nazis allegedly used to exterminate 
>>Jews? 
>>
>>The stories range from dropping gas canisters into a crowded room from a 
>>hole in the ceiling, to piping gas through shower heads, to "steam 
>>chambers," to "electrocution" machinery. Millions are alleged to have 
>>been killed in these ways. 
>>
>>34. How could a mass extermination program have been kept secret from 
>>those who were scheduled to be killed? 
>>
>>It couldn't have been kept secret. The fact is that there were no mass 
>>gassings. The extermination stories originated as wartime atrocity 
>>propaganda. 
>>
>>35. If Jews scheduled for execution knew the fate in store for them, why 
>>did they go along with the Germans without resisting? 
>>They didn't fight back because they did not believe there was any 
>>intention to kill them. 
>>
>>36. About how many Jews died in the concentration camps? 
>>
>>Competent estimates range from about 300,000 to 500,000. 
>>
>>37. How did they die? 
>>
>>Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn Europe 
>>during the war, as well as from starvation and lack of medical attention 
>>during the final months of the conflict, when virtually all road and 
>>rail transportation had been bombed out by the Allies.
>> 
>>38. What is typhus? 
>>
>>This disease always appears when many people are jammed together under 
>>unsanitary conditions. It is carried by lice that infest hair and 
>>clothes. Ironically, if the Germans had used more Zyklon B, more Jews 
>>might have survived the camps. 
>>
>>39. What is the difference if six million or 300,000 Jews died during 
>>the Second World War? 
>>
>>5,700,000. 
>>
>>40. Some Jewish "death camp" survivors say they saw bodies being dumped 
>>into pits and burned. How much fuel would have been required for this? 
>>A great deal more than the Germans had access to, as there was a 
>>substantial fuel shortage during the war. 
>>
>>41. Can bodies be burned in pits? 
>>
>>No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by flames 
>>in this manner because of lack of oxygen.
>> 
>>42. Holocaust historians claim that the Nazis were able to cremate 
>>bodies in about ten minutes. How long does it take to incinerate one 
>>body, according to professional crematory operators? 
>>
>>About an hour and a half, although the larger bones require further 
>>processing afterwards. 
>>
>>43. Why did the German concentration camps have crematory ovens? 
>>To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses of those who had 
>>died. 
>>
>>44. Given a 100 percent duty cycle of all the crematories in all the 
>>camps in German-controlled territory, what is the maximum number of 
>>corpses it would have been possible to incinerate during the entire 
>>period such crematories were in operation? 
>>
>>About 430,600. 
>>
>>45. Can a crematory oven be operated 100 percent of the time? 
>>No. Fifty percent of the time is a generous estimate (12 hours per day). 
>>Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly when in 
>>heavy operation. 
>>
>>46. How much ash is left from a cremated corpse? 
>>
>>After the bone is all ground down, about a shoe box full. 
>>
>>47. If six million people had been incinerated by the Nazis, what 
>>happened to the ashes? 
>>
>>That remains to be "explained." Six million bodies would have produced 
>>many tons of ashes, yet there is no evidence of any large ash 
>>depositories. 
>>
>>48. Do Allied wartime aerial reconnaissance photos of Auschwitz (taken 
>>during the period when the "gas chambers" and crematoria were supposedly 
>>in full operation) show evidence of extermination? 
>>
>>No. In fact, these photographs do not even reveal a trace of the 
>>enormous amount of smoke that supposedly was constantly over the camp, 
>>nor do they show evidence of the "open pits" in which bodies were 
>>allegedly burned. 
>>
>>49. What was the main provision of the German "Nuremberg Laws" of 1935? 
>>
>>They forbid marriage and sexual relations between Germans and Jews, 
>>similar to laws existing in Israel today. 
>>
>>50. Were there any American precedents for the Nuremberg Laws? 
>>
>>Years before Hitler's Third Reich, most states in the USA had enacted 
>>laws prohibiting marriage between persons of different races. 
>>
>>51. What did the International Red Cross have to report with regard to 
>>the "Holocaust" question? 
>>
>>An official report on the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in 
>>September 1944 pointed out that internees were permitted to receive 
>>packages, and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. 
>>
>>52. What was the role of the Vatican during the time six million Jews 
>>were allegedly being exterminated? 
>>
>>If there had been an extermination plan, the Vatican would most 
>>certainly have been in a position to know about it. But because there 
>>was none, the Vatican had no reason to speak out against it, and didn't. 
>>
>>53. What evidence is there that Hitler knew of an on-going Jewish 
>>extermination program? 
>>
>>None. 
>>
>>54. Did the Nazis and the Zionists collaborate? 
>>
>>As early as 1933, Hitler's government signed an agreement with the 
>>Zionists permitting Jews to emigrate from Germany to Palestine, taking 
>>large amounts of capital with them. 
>>
>>55. How did Anne Frank die?
>> 
>>After surviving internment in Auschwitz, she succumbed to typhus in the 
>>Bergen-Belsen camp, just a few weeks before the end of the war. The was 
>>not gassed. 
>>
>>56. Is the Anne Frank Diary genuine? 
>>
>>No. Evidence compiled by Dr. Robert Faurisson of France establishes that 
>>the famous diary is a literary hoax. 
>>
>>57. What about the familiar photographs and film footage taken in the 
>>liberated German camps showing piles of emaciated corpses? Are these 
>>faked? 
>>
>>Photographs can be faked, but it's far easier merely to add a misleading 
>>caption to a photo or commentary to a piece of footage. Piles of 
>>emaciated corpses do not mean that these people were "gassed" or 
>>deliberately starved to death. Actually, these were tragic victims of 
>>raging epidemics or of starvation due to a lack of food in the camps 
>>toward the end of the war. 
>>
>>58. Who originated the term "genocide"? 
>>
>>Raphael Lemkin, a Polish Jew, in a book published in 1944. 
>>
>>59. Are films such as "Schindler's List" or "The Winds of War" 
>>documentaries? 
>>
>>No. Such films are fictional dramatizations loosely based on history. 
>>Unfortunately, all too many people accept them as accurate historical 
>>representations.
>> 
>>60. How many books have been published that refute some aspect of the 
>>standard "Holocaust" story? 
>>
>>Dozens. More are in production.
>> 
>>61. What happened when the Institute for Historical Review offered 
>>$50,000 to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz?
>> 
>>No proof was submitted as a claim on the reward, but the Institute was 
>>sued for $17 million by former Auschwitz inmate Mel Mermelstein, who 
>>claimed that the reward offer caused him to lose sleep and his business 
>>to suffer, and represented "injurious denial of established fact." 
>>
>>62. What about the charge that those who question the Holocaust story 
>>are merely anti-Semitic or neo-Nazi? 
>>
>>This is a smear designed to draw attention away from facts and honest 
>>arguments. Scholars who refute Holocaust story claims are of all 
>>persuasions and ethnic-religious backgrounds (including Jewish). There 
>>is no correlation between "Holocaust" refutation and anti-Semitism or
>>"neo-Naziism".
>>
>>63. What has happened to "revisionist" historians who have challenged 
>>the Holocaust story? 
>>
>>They have been subjected to smear campaigns, loss of academic positions, 
>>loss of pensions, destruction of their property and physical violence. 
>>
>>64. Has the Institute for Historical Review suffered any retaliation for 
>>its efforts to uphold the right of freedom of speech and academic 
>>freedom?
>> 
>>The IHR had been bombed three times, and was completely destroyed on 
>>July 4, 1984, in a criminal arson attack. Numerous death threats by 
>>telephone have been received. Media coverage of the IHR has been 
>>overwhelmingly hostile. 
>>
>>65. Why is there so little publicity for the revisionist view? 
>>Because for political reasons the Establishment does not want any 
>>in-depth discussion about the facts surrounding the Holocaust story. 
>>
>>66. Where can I get more information about the "other side" of the 
>>Holocaust story, as well as facts concerning other aspects of World War 
>>II historical revisionism? 
>>
>>The Institute for Historical Review, P.O. Box 2739, Newport Beach, CA 
>>92659, carries a wide variety of books, cassette and video tapes on 
>>significant historical subjects. 
>>
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>and video tapes, send one dollar to: 
>>Institute For Historical Review 
>>Post Office Box 2739 
>>Newport Beach, California 92659 
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled - as Fertiliser
sven88


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Another JEW Rabbi in NY state has been caught  dealing drugs - this
time inside a prison!!!

Rabbi Eli Gottesman,a chaplain at a federal medium security prison at
Ray Brook, NY got caught with a large bottle filled with sealed
balloons of cocaine and marijuana.

He is a former head of the "who's Who in canadian Jewry", and has been
a chaplain of the year named by the NY Board of rabbis.



On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:52:54 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:

>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>Christ.

>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>business.
>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:

>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
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2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering

By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997

NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to
launder  and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian
narcotics dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a
synagogue and a yeshiva in Brooklyn. 

The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought
together a collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York
representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who
purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with
ties to a close-knit Jewish community. 

 At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions
of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively
modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from
American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the
Colombian drug lords. 

"Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
traffickers, and the  cynical act of using religious institutions to
conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary
Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in
announcing the charges. 

Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford
Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in
Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day
before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy
to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of
5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid
federal cash-transaction reporting requirements. 

Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of
320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was
released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal
complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in
custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst,
the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case. 

Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used
court-authorize wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint
charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by
taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a
synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting commissions,
writing checks to drug traffickers. 

Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the
name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation
Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more
than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering
transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996. 

Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to
have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and
Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in
drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000
-- the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting
requirement -- through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim
and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location. 

The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was
listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of
people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything
about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim
Shel Shulem. 

The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick
front and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in
Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz
Family of Mexico Building." 

In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people
were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who
would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis
named in the federal complaint. 

The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's
Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service
-- began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in
various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
officials said. 

With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other
techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in
which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in
deposits and withdrawals -- transactions, they said, that let the
conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits. 

Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in
Monday's complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five
of them -- Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio
Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to
have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to
launder. 

The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack
Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40,
and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted
and stashed the money at an apartment at  243 West 75th St. 

There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was
later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel
Shulem.

Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made
out to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions,"
the federal complaint said. 

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formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said.
Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the
laundered money and divided among the intermediaries. 

Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
community came  into contact with professional money launderers and
drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and
Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy
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On Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:20:49 +0100, "Ulf Alexandersson"
 wrote:

>iearn wrote:
>>> Jews are greedy, they murdered Jesus, now Jews murdering Arabs.
>>> What next?
>>
>>Next!?  You and Me; just wait they claim that they are the chosen
>>people.
>
>
>Something reminds me of Manifest Destiny. People who believed in that caused
>the native-american genocides. In another shape, continued directly with
>Hiroshima, Corea, Vietnam. Indirectly to mass-slaughter in Latin America,
>East-Timor, Laos.. Jesus was a Jew, and I think it's tragic how christianity
>has caused the hostility towards Jews throughout history. I don't like their
>treatment of palestinians, but that is definately NOT a reason to support
>anti-semitism.



How can it be anti-semitism, when one supports the descendants of Ham,
being the Arabs?

Opposing Zionist Jews is not the same as anti-semitism, despite what
the Christkillers would claim.



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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:03:27 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:11:32 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wanted to
write, to stimulate more discussion, since it is a supporter of JEW
murders,child molesters, faggots and similar subhumans:

>In article ,
>  "AussiCro"  wrote:
>> anti-Semites GET OF aus.politics!
On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:30:14 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:08:03 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>
>>From swoj@no6million.com Sat Sep 13 17:14:03 1997
>>
>>Subject: [Fwd: 66 Questions and Answers on the Holocaust]
>>Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 18:14:03 -0500
>>
>>Laura is my kind of gal... she has many a valid point in the following
>>post.  In fact, 66 valid points.  Don't know why she
>>didn't post this to alt.revisionism, so I will do the honors..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Sixty-six Questions and Answers on the Holocaust
>>------------------------------------------------
>>
>>1. What proof exists that the Nazis killed six million Jews? 
>>
>>None. All we have is postwar testimony, mostly of individual 
>>"survivors." This testimony is contradictory, and very few claim to have 
>>actually witnessed any "gassing." There are no contemporaneous documents 
>>or hard evidence: no mounds of ashes, no crematories capable of 
>>disposing of millions of corpses, no "human soap," no lamp shades made 
>>of human skin, and no credible demographic statistics. 
>>
>>2. What evidence exists that six million Jews were not killed by the 
>>Nazis? 
>>
>>Extensive forensic, demographic, analytical and comparative evidence 
>>demonstrates the impossibility of such a figure. The widely repeated 
>>"six million" figure is an irresponsible exaggeration. 
>>
>>3. Did Simon Wiesenthal state in writing that "there were no 
>>extermination camps on German soil"? 
>>
>>Yes. The famous "Nazi hunter" wrote this in Stars and Stripes, Jan. 24, 
>>1993. He also claimed that "gassings" of Jews took place only in Poland. 
>>
>>4. If Dachau was in Germany, and even Wiesenthal says that it was not an 
>>extermination camp, why do many American veterans say it was an 
>>extermination camp? 
>>
>>After the Allies captured Dachau, many GIs and others were led through 
>>the camp and shown a building alleged to have been a "gas chamber." The 
>>mass media widely, but falsely, continues to assert that Dachau was a 
>>"gassing" camp. 
>>
>>5. What about Auschwitz? Is there any proof that gas chambers were used 
>>to kill people there? 
>>
>>No. Auschwitz, captured by the Soviets, was modified after the war, and 
>>a room was reconstructed to look like a large "gas chamber." After 
>>America's leading expert on gas chamber construction and design, Fred 
>>Leuchter, examined this and other alleged Auschwitz gassing facilities, 
>>he stated that it was an "absurdity" to claim that they were, or could 
>>have been, used for executions. 
>>
>>6. If Auschwitz wasn't a "death camp," what was its true purpose? 
>>It was an internment center and part of a large-scale manufacturing 
>>complex. Synthetic fuel was produced there, and its inmates were used as 
>>a workforce. 
>>
>>7. Who set up the first concentration camps? 
>>During the Boer War (1899-1902), the British set up what they called 
>>"concentration camps" in South Africa to hold Afrikaner women and 
>>children. Approximately 30,000 died in these hell-holes, which were as 
>>terrible as German concentration camps of World War II. 
>>
>>8. How did German concentration camps differ from American "relocation" 
>>camps in which Japanese-Americans were interned during WWII? 
>>
>>The only significant difference was that the Germans interned persons on 
>>the basis of being real or suspected security threats to the German war 
>>effort, whereas the Roosevelt administration interned persons on the 
>>basis of race alone. 
>>
>>9. Why did the German government intern Jews in camps? 
>>
>>It considered Jews a direct threat to national security. (Jews were 
>>overwhelmingly represented in Communist subversion.) However, all 
>>suspected security risks -- not just Jews -- were in danger of 
>>internment. 
>>
>>10. What hostile measure did world Jewry undertake against Germany as 
>>early as 1933? 
>>
>>In March 1933, international Jewish organizations declared an 
>>international boycott of German goods. 
>>
>>11. Did the Jews of the world "declare war on Germany"? 
>>
>>Yes. Newspapers around the world reported this. A front-page headline in 
>>the London Daily Express (March 24, 1933), for example, announced "Judea 
>>Declares War on Germany." 
>>
>>12. Was this before or after the "death camp" stories began? 
>>
>>This was years before the "death camp" stories, which began in 
>>1941-1942. 
>>
>>13. What nation is credited with being the first to practice mass 
>>civilian bombing? 
>>
>>Britain -- on May 11, 1940. 
>>
>>14. How many "gas chambers" to kill people were there at Auschwitz? 
>>None. 
>>
>>15. How many Jews were living in the areas that came under German 
>>control during the war? 
>>
>>Fewer than six million. 
>>
>>16. If the Jews of Europe were not exterminated by the Nazis, what 
>>happened to them? 
>>
>>After the war millions of Jews were still alive in Europe. Hundreds of 
>>thousands (perhaps as many as one and a half million) had died of all 
>>causes during the war. Others had emigrated to Palestine, the United 
>>States, and other countries. Still more Jews left Europe after the war. 
>>
>>17. How many Jews fled or were evacuated to deep within the Soviet 
>>Union? 
>>
>>More than two million fled or were evacuated by the Soviets in 
>>1941-1942. These Jews thus never came under German control. 
>>
>>18. How many Jews emigrated from Europe prior to the war, thus putting 
>>them outside of German reach? 
>>
>>Perhaps a million (not including those absorbed by the USSR). 
>>
>>19. If Auschwitz was not an extermination camp, why did the commandant, 
>>Rudolf Hoess, confess that it was? 
>>
>>He was tortured by British military police, as one of his interrogators 
>>later admitted. 
>>
>>20. Is there any evidence of American, British and Soviet policy to 
>>torture German prisoners in order to exact "confessions" for use at the 
>>trials at Nuremberg and elsewhere? 
>>
>>Yes. Torture was extensively used to produce fraudulent "evidence" for 
>>the infamous Nuremberg trials, and in other postwar "war crimes" trials. 
>>
>>21. How does the Holocaust story benefit Jews today? 
>>
>>It helps protect Jews as a group from criticism. As a kind of secular 
>>religion, it provides an emotional bond between Jews and their leaders. 
>>It is a powerful tool in Jewish money-raising campaigns, and is used to 
>>justify US aid to Israel. 
>>
>>22. How does it benefit the State of Israel? 
>>
>>It justifies the billions of dollars in "reparations" Germany has paid 
>>to Israel and many individual "survivors." It is used by the 
>>Zionist/Israeli lobby to dictate a pro-Israel American foreign policy in 
>>the Middle East, and to force American taxpayer aid to Israel, totaling 
>>billions of dollars per year. 
>>
>>23. How is it used by many Christian clergymen? 
>>
>>The Holocaust story is cited to justify the Old Testament notion of Jews 
>>as a holy and eternally persecuted "Chosen People." 
>>
>>24. How did it benefit the Communists? 
>>
>>It diverted attention from Soviet war mongering and atrocities before, 
>>during and after the Second World War. 
>>
>>25. How does it benefit Britain? 
>>
>>In much the same way it benefitted the Soviet Union. 
>>
>>26. Is there any evidence that Hitler ordered mass extermination of 
>>Jews? 
>>
>>No. 
>>
>>27. What kind of gas was used in German wartime concentration camps? 
>>Hydrocyanic gas from "Zyklon B," a commercial pesticide that was widely 
>>used throughout Europe. 
>>
>>28. For what purpose was "Zyklon B" manufactured? 
>>
>>It was a pesticide used to fumigate clothing and quarters to kill 
>>typhus-bearing lice and other pests. 
>>
>>29. Was this product suitable for mass extermination? 
>>
>>No. If the Nazis had intended to use poison gas to exterminate people, 
>>far more efficient products were available. Zyklon is a slow-acting 
>>fumigation agent. 
>>
>>30. How long does it take to ventilate an area after fumigation with 
>>Zyklon B? 
>>
>>Normally about 20 hours. The whole procedure is very complicated and 
>>dangerous. Gas masks must be used, and only trained technicians are 
>>employed. 
>>
>>31. Auschwitz commandant Hoess said that his men would enter the "gas 
>>chambers" to remove bodies ten minutes after the victims had died. How 
>>do you explain this? 
>>
>>It can't be explained because had they done so they would have suffered 
>>the same fate as the "gassing" victims. 
>>
>>32. Hoess said in his "confession" that his men would smoke cigarettes 
>>as they pulled bodies out of gas chambers, ten minutes after gassing. 
>>Isn't Zyklon B explosive? 
>>
>>Yes. The Hoess confession is obviously false. 
>>
>>33. What was the exact procedure the Nazis allegedly used to exterminate 
>>Jews? 
>>
>>The stories range from dropping gas canisters into a crowded room from a 
>>hole in the ceiling, to piping gas through shower heads, to "steam 
>>chambers," to "electrocution" machinery. Millions are alleged to have 
>>been killed in these ways. 
>>
>>34. How could a mass extermination program have been kept secret from 
>>those who were scheduled to be killed? 
>>
>>It couldn't have been kept secret. The fact is that there were no mass 
>>gassings. The extermination stories originated as wartime atrocity 
>>propaganda. 
>>
>>35. If Jews scheduled for execution knew the fate in store for them, why 
>>did they go along with the Germans without resisting? 
>>They didn't fight back because they did not believe there was any 
>>intention to kill them. 
>>
>>36. About how many Jews died in the concentration camps? 
>>
>>Competent estimates range from about 300,000 to 500,000. 
>>
>>37. How did they die? 
>>
>>Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn Europe 
>>during the war, as well as from starvation and lack of medical attention 
>>during the final months of the conflict, when virtually all road and 
>>rail transportation had been bombed out by the Allies.
>> 
>>38. What is typhus? 
>>
>>This disease always appears when many people are jammed together under 
>>unsanitary conditions. It is carried by lice that infest hair and 
>>clothes. Ironically, if the Germans had used more Zyklon B, more Jews 
>>might have survived the camps. 
>>
>>39. What is the difference if six million or 300,000 Jews died during 
>>the Second World War? 
>>
>>5,700,000. 
>>
>>40. Some Jewish "death camp" survivors say they saw bodies being dumped 
>>into pits and burned. How much fuel would have been required for this? 
>>A great deal more than the Germans had access to, as there was a 
>>substantial fuel shortage during the war. 
>>
>>41. Can bodies be burned in pits? 
>>
>>No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by flames 
>>in this manner because of lack of oxygen.
>> 
>>42. Holocaust historians claim that the Nazis were able to cremate 
>>bodies in about ten minutes. How long does it take to incinerate one 
>>body, according to professional crematory operators? 
>>
>>About an hour and a half, although the larger bones require further 
>>processing afterwards. 
>>
>>43. Why did the German concentration camps have crematory ovens? 
>>To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses of those who had 
>>died. 
>>
>>44. Given a 100 percent duty cycle of all the crematories in all the 
>>camps in German-controlled territory, what is the maximum number of 
>>corpses it would have been possible to incinerate during the entire 
>>period such crematories were in operation? 
>>
>>About 430,600. 
>>
>>45. Can a crematory oven be operated 100 percent of the time? 
>>No. Fifty percent of the time is a generous estimate (12 hours per day). 
>>Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly when in 
>>heavy operation. 
>>
>>46. How much ash is left from a cremated corpse? 
>>
>>After the bone is all ground down, about a shoe box full. 
>>
>>47. If six million people had been incinerated by the Nazis, what 
>>happened to the ashes? 
>>
>>That remains to be "explained." Six million bodies would have produced 
>>many tons of ashes, yet there is no evidence of any large ash 
>>depositories. 
>>
>>48. Do Allied wartime aerial reconnaissance photos of Auschwitz (taken 
>>during the period when the "gas chambers" and crematoria were supposedly 
>>in full operation) show evidence of extermination? 
>>
>>No. In fact, these photographs do not even reveal a trace of the 
>>enormous amount of smoke that supposedly was constantly over the camp, 
>>nor do they show evidence of the "open pits" in which bodies were 
>>allegedly burned. 
>>
>>49. What was the main provision of the German "Nuremberg Laws" of 1935? 
>>
>>They forbid marriage and sexual relations between Germans and Jews, 
>>similar to laws existing in Israel today. 
>>
>>50. Were there any American precedents for the Nuremberg Laws? 
>>
>>Years before Hitler's Third Reich, most states in the USA had enacted 
>>laws prohibiting marriage between persons of different races. 
>>
>>51. What did the International Red Cross have to report with regard to 
>>the "Holocaust" question? 
>>
>>An official report on the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in 
>>September 1944 pointed out that internees were permitted to receive 
>>packages, and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. 
>>
>>52. What was the role of the Vatican during the time six million Jews 
>>were allegedly being exterminated? 
>>
>>If there had been an extermination plan, the Vatican would most 
>>certainly have been in a position to know about it. But because there 
>>was none, the Vatican had no reason to speak out against it, and didn't. 
>>
>>53. What evidence is there that Hitler knew of an on-going Jewish 
>>extermination program? 
>>
>>None. 
>>
>>54. Did the Nazis and the Zionists collaborate? 
>>
>>As early as 1933, Hitler's government signed an agreement with the 
>>Zionists permitting Jews to emigrate from Germany to Palestine, taking 
>>large amounts of capital with them. 
>>
>>55. How did Anne Frank die?
>> 
>>After surviving internment in Auschwitz, she succumbed to typhus in the 
>>Bergen-Belsen camp, just a few weeks before the end of the war. The was 
>>not gassed. 
>>
>>56. Is the Anne Frank Diary genuine? 
>>
>>No. Evidence compiled by Dr. Robert Faurisson of France establishes that 
>>the famous diary is a literary hoax. 
>>
>>57. What about the familiar photographs and film footage taken in the 
>>liberated German camps showing piles of emaciated corpses? Are these 
>>faked? 
>>
>>Photographs can be faked, but it's far easier merely to add a misleading 
>>caption to a photo or commentary to a piece of footage. Piles of 
>>emaciated corpses do not mean that these people were "gassed" or 
>>deliberately starved to death. Actually, these were tragic victims of 
>>raging epidemics or of starvation due to a lack of food in the camps 
>>toward the end of the war. 
>>
>>58. Who originated the term "genocide"? 
>>
>>Raphael Lemkin, a Polish Jew, in a book published in 1944. 
>>
>>59. Are films such as "Schindler's List" or "The Winds of War" 
>>documentaries? 
>>
>>No. Such films are fictional dramatizations loosely based on history. 
>>Unfortunately, all too many people accept them as accurate historical 
>>representations.
>> 
>>60. How many books have been published that refute some aspect of the 
>>standard "Holocaust" story? 
>>
>>Dozens. More are in production.
>> 
>>61. What happened when the Institute for Historical Review offered 
>>$50,000 to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz?
>> 
>>No proof was submitted as a claim on the reward, but the Institute was 
>>sued for $17 million by former Auschwitz inmate Mel Mermelstein, who 
>>claimed that the reward offer caused him to lose sleep and his business 
>>to suffer, and represented "injurious denial of established fact." 
>>
>>62. What about the charge that those who question the Holocaust story 
>>are merely anti-Semitic or neo-Nazi? 
>>
>>This is a smear designed to draw attention away from facts and honest 
>>arguments. Scholars who refute Holocaust story claims are of all 
>>persuasions and ethnic-religious backgrounds (including Jewish). There 
>>is no correlation between "Holocaust" refutation and anti-Semitism or
>>"neo-Naziism".
>>
>>63. What has happened to "revisionist" historians who have challenged 
>>the Holocaust story? 
>>
>>They have been subjected to smear campaigns, loss of academic positions, 
>>loss of pensions, destruction of their property and physical violence. 
>>
>>64. Has the Institute for Historical Review suffered any retaliation for 
>>its efforts to uphold the right of freedom of speech and academic 
>>freedom?
>> 
>>The IHR had been bombed three times, and was completely destroyed on 
>>July 4, 1984, in a criminal arson attack. Numerous death threats by 
>>telephone have been received. Media coverage of the IHR has been 
>>overwhelmingly hostile. 
>>
>>65. Why is there so little publicity for the revisionist view? 
>>Because for political reasons the Establishment does not want any 
>>in-depth discussion about the facts surrounding the Holocaust story. 
>>
>>66. Where can I get more information about the "other side" of the 
>>Holocaust story, as well as facts concerning other aspects of World War 
>>II historical revisionism? 
>>
>>The Institute for Historical Review, P.O. Box 2739, Newport Beach, CA 
>>92659, carries a wide variety of books, cassette and video tapes on 
>>significant historical subjects. 
>>
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>and video tapes, send one dollar to: 
>>Institute For Historical Review 
>>Post Office Box 2739 
>>Newport Beach, California 92659 
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:11:32 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wanted to
write, to stimulate more discussion, since it is a supporter of JEW
murders,child molesters, faggots and similar subhumans:

>In article ,
>  "AussiCro"  wrote:
>> anti-Semites GET OF aus.politics!
On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:30:14 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:08:03 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>
>>From swoj@no6million.com Sat Sep 13 17:14:03 1997
>>
>>Subject: [Fwd: 66 Questions and Answers on the Holocaust]
>>Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 18:14:03 -0500
>>
>>Laura is my kind of gal... she has many a valid point in the following
>>post.  In fact, 66 valid points.  Don't know why she
>>didn't post this to alt.revisionism, so I will do the honors..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Sixty-six Questions and Answers on the Holocaust
>>------------------------------------------------
>>
>>1. What proof exists that the Nazis killed six million Jews? 
>>
>>None. All we have is postwar testimony, mostly of individual 
>>"survivors." This testimony is contradictory, and very few claim to have 
>>actually witnessed any "gassing." There are no contemporaneous documents 
>>or hard evidence: no mounds of ashes, no crematories capable of 
>>disposing of millions of corpses, no "human soap," no lamp shades made 
>>of human skin, and no credible demographic statistics. 
>>
>>2. What evidence exists that six million Jews were not killed by the 
>>Nazis? 
>>
>>Extensive forensic, demographic, analytical and comparative evidence 
>>demonstrates the impossibility of such a figure. The widely repeated 
>>"six million" figure is an irresponsible exaggeration. 
>>
>>3. Did Simon Wiesenthal state in writing that "there were no 
>>extermination camps on German soil"? 
>>
>>Yes. The famous "Nazi hunter" wrote this in Stars and Stripes, Jan. 24, 
>>1993. He also claimed that "gassings" of Jews took place only in Poland. 
>>
>>4. If Dachau was in Germany, and even Wiesenthal says that it was not an 
>>extermination camp, why do many American veterans say it was an 
>>extermination camp? 
>>
>>After the Allies captured Dachau, many GIs and others were led through 
>>the camp and shown a building alleged to have been a "gas chamber." The 
>>mass media widely, but falsely, continues to assert that Dachau was a 
>>"gassing" camp. 
>>
>>5. What about Auschwitz? Is there any proof that gas chambers were used 
>>to kill people there? 
>>
>>No. Auschwitz, captured by the Soviets, was modified after the war, and 
>>a room was reconstructed to look like a large "gas chamber." After 
>>America's leading expert on gas chamber construction and design, Fred 
>>Leuchter, examined this and other alleged Auschwitz gassing facilities, 
>>he stated that it was an "absurdity" to claim that they were, or could 
>>have been, used for executions. 
>>
>>6. If Auschwitz wasn't a "death camp," what was its true purpose? 
>>It was an internment center and part of a large-scale manufacturing 
>>complex. Synthetic fuel was produced there, and its inmates were used as 
>>a workforce. 
>>
>>7. Who set up the first concentration camps? 
>>During the Boer War (1899-1902), the British set up what they called 
>>"concentration camps" in South Africa to hold Afrikaner women and 
>>children. Approximately 30,000 died in these hell-holes, which were as 
>>terrible as German concentration camps of World War II. 
>>
>>8. How did German concentration camps differ from American "relocation" 
>>camps in which Japanese-Americans were interned during WWII? 
>>
>>The only significant difference was that the Germans interned persons on 
>>the basis of being real or suspected security threats to the German war 
>>effort, whereas the Roosevelt administration interned persons on the 
>>basis of race alone. 
>>
>>9. Why did the German government intern Jews in camps? 
>>
>>It considered Jews a direct threat to national security. (Jews were 
>>overwhelmingly represented in Communist subversion.) However, all 
>>suspected security risks -- not just Jews -- were in danger of 
>>internment. 
>>
>>10. What hostile measure did world Jewry undertake against Germany as 
>>early as 1933? 
>>
>>In March 1933, international Jewish organizations declared an 
>>international boycott of German goods. 
>>
>>11. Did the Jews of the world "declare war on Germany"? 
>>
>>Yes. Newspapers around the world reported this. A front-page headline in 
>>the London Daily Express (March 24, 1933), for example, announced "Judea 
>>Declares War on Germany." 
>>
>>12. Was this before or after the "death camp" stories began? 
>>
>>This was years before the "death camp" stories, which began in 
>>1941-1942. 
>>
>>13. What nation is credited with being the first to practice mass 
>>civilian bombing? 
>>
>>Britain -- on May 11, 1940. 
>>
>>14. How many "gas chambers" to kill people were there at Auschwitz? 
>>None. 
>>
>>15. How many Jews were living in the areas that came under German 
>>control during the war? 
>>
>>Fewer than six million. 
>>
>>16. If the Jews of Europe were not exterminated by the Nazis, what 
>>happened to them? 
>>
>>After the war millions of Jews were still alive in Europe. Hundreds of 
>>thousands (perhaps as many as one and a half million) had died of all 
>>causes during the war. Others had emigrated to Palestine, the United 
>>States, and other countries. Still more Jews left Europe after the war. 
>>
>>17. How many Jews fled or were evacuated to deep within the Soviet 
>>Union? 
>>
>>More than two million fled or were evacuated by the Soviets in 
>>1941-1942. These Jews thus never came under German control. 
>>
>>18. How many Jews emigrated from Europe prior to the war, thus putting 
>>them outside of German reach? 
>>
>>Perhaps a million (not including those absorbed by the USSR). 
>>
>>19. If Auschwitz was not an extermination camp, why did the commandant, 
>>Rudolf Hoess, confess that it was? 
>>
>>He was tortured by British military police, as one of his interrogators 
>>later admitted. 
>>
>>20. Is there any evidence of American, British and Soviet policy to 
>>torture German prisoners in order to exact "confessions" for use at the 
>>trials at Nuremberg and elsewhere? 
>>
>>Yes. Torture was extensively used to produce fraudulent "evidence" for 
>>the infamous Nuremberg trials, and in other postwar "war crimes" trials. 
>>
>>21. How does the Holocaust story benefit Jews today? 
>>
>>It helps protect Jews as a group from criticism. As a kind of secular 
>>religion, it provides an emotional bond between Jews and their leaders. 
>>It is a powerful tool in Jewish money-raising campaigns, and is used to 
>>justify US aid to Israel. 
>>
>>22. How does it benefit the State of Israel? 
>>
>>It justifies the billions of dollars in "reparations" Germany has paid 
>>to Israel and many individual "survivors." It is used by the 
>>Zionist/Israeli lobby to dictate a pro-Israel American foreign policy in 
>>the Middle East, and to force American taxpayer aid to Israel, totaling 
>>billions of dollars per year. 
>>
>>23. How is it used by many Christian clergymen? 
>>
>>The Holocaust story is cited to justify the Old Testament notion of Jews 
>>as a holy and eternally persecuted "Chosen People." 
>>
>>24. How did it benefit the Communists? 
>>
>>It diverted attention from Soviet war mongering and atrocities before, 
>>during and after the Second World War. 
>>
>>25. How does it benefit Britain? 
>>
>>In much the same way it benefitted the Soviet Union. 
>>
>>26. Is there any evidence that Hitler ordered mass extermination of 
>>Jews? 
>>
>>No. 
>>
>>27. What kind of gas was used in German wartime concentration camps? 
>>Hydrocyanic gas from "Zyklon B," a commercial pesticide that was widely 
>>used throughout Europe. 
>>
>>28. For what purpose was "Zyklon B" manufactured? 
>>
>>It was a pesticide used to fumigate clothing and quarters to kill 
>>typhus-bearing lice and other pests. 
>>
>>29. Was this product suitable for mass extermination? 
>>
>>No. If the Nazis had intended to use poison gas to exterminate people, 
>>far more efficient products were available. Zyklon is a slow-acting 
>>fumigation agent. 
>>
>>30. How long does it take to ventilate an area after fumigation with 
>>Zyklon B? 
>>
>>Normally about 20 hours. The whole procedure is very complicated and 
>>dangerous. Gas masks must be used, and only trained technicians are 
>>employed. 
>>
>>31. Auschwitz commandant Hoess said that his men would enter the "gas 
>>chambers" to remove bodies ten minutes after the victims had died. How 
>>do you explain this? 
>>
>>It can't be explained because had they done so they would have suffered 
>>the same fate as the "gassing" victims. 
>>
>>32. Hoess said in his "confession" that his men would smoke cigarettes 
>>as they pulled bodies out of gas chambers, ten minutes after gassing. 
>>Isn't Zyklon B explosive? 
>>
>>Yes. The Hoess confession is obviously false. 
>>
>>33. What was the exact procedure the Nazis allegedly used to exterminate 
>>Jews? 
>>
>>The stories range from dropping gas canisters into a crowded room from a 
>>hole in the ceiling, to piping gas through shower heads, to "steam 
>>chambers," to "electrocution" machinery. Millions are alleged to have 
>>been killed in these ways. 
>>
>>34. How could a mass extermination program have been kept secret from 
>>those who were scheduled to be killed? 
>>
>>It couldn't have been kept secret. The fact is that there were no mass 
>>gassings. The extermination stories originated as wartime atrocity 
>>propaganda. 
>>
>>35. If Jews scheduled for execution knew the fate in store for them, why 
>>did they go along with the Germans without resisting? 
>>They didn't fight back because they did not believe there was any 
>>intention to kill them. 
>>
>>36. About how many Jews died in the concentration camps? 
>>
>>Competent estimates range from about 300,000 to 500,000. 
>>
>>37. How did they die? 
>>
>>Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn Europe 
>>during the war, as well as from starvation and lack of medical attention 
>>during the final months of the conflict, when virtually all road and 
>>rail transportation had been bombed out by the Allies.
>> 
>>38. What is typhus? 
>>
>>This disease always appears when many people are jammed together under 
>>unsanitary conditions. It is carried by lice that infest hair and 
>>clothes. Ironically, if the Germans had used more Zyklon B, more Jews 
>>might have survived the camps. 
>>
>>39. What is the difference if six million or 300,000 Jews died during 
>>the Second World War? 
>>
>>5,700,000. 
>>
>>40. Some Jewish "death camp" survivors say they saw bodies being dumped 
>>into pits and burned. How much fuel would have been required for this? 
>>A great deal more than the Germans had access to, as there was a 
>>substantial fuel shortage during the war. 
>>
>>41. Can bodies be burned in pits? 
>>
>>No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by flames 
>>in this manner because of lack of oxygen.
>> 
>>42. Holocaust historians claim that the Nazis were able to cremate 
>>bodies in about ten minutes. How long does it take to incinerate one 
>>body, according to professional crematory operators? 
>>
>>About an hour and a half, although the larger bones require further 
>>processing afterwards. 
>>
>>43. Why did the German concentration camps have crematory ovens? 
>>To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses of those who had 
>>died. 
>>
>>44. Given a 100 percent duty cycle of all the crematories in all the 
>>camps in German-controlled territory, what is the maximum number of 
>>corpses it would have been possible to incinerate during the entire 
>>period such crematories were in operation? 
>>
>>About 430,600. 
>>
>>45. Can a crematory oven be operated 100 percent of the time? 
>>No. Fifty percent of the time is a generous estimate (12 hours per day). 
>>Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly when in 
>>heavy operation. 
>>
>>46. How much ash is left from a cremated corpse? 
>>
>>After the bone is all ground down, about a shoe box full. 
>>
>>47. If six million people had been incinerated by the Nazis, what 
>>happened to the ashes? 
>>
>>That remains to be "explained." Six million bodies would have produced 
>>many tons of ashes, yet there is no evidence of any large ash 
>>depositories. 
>>
>>48. Do Allied wartime aerial reconnaissance photos of Auschwitz (taken 
>>during the period when the "gas chambers" and crematoria were supposedly 
>>in full operation) show evidence of extermination? 
>>
>>No. In fact, these photographs do not even reveal a trace of the 
>>enormous amount of smoke that supposedly was constantly over the camp, 
>>nor do they show evidence of the "open pits" in which bodies were 
>>allegedly burned. 
>>
>>49. What was the main provision of the German "Nuremberg Laws" of 1935? 
>>
>>They forbid marriage and sexual relations between Germans and Jews, 
>>similar to laws existing in Israel today. 
>>
>>50. Were there any American precedents for the Nuremberg Laws? 
>>
>>Years before Hitler's Third Reich, most states in the USA had enacted 
>>laws prohibiting marriage between persons of different races. 
>>
>>51. What did the International Red Cross have to report with regard to 
>>the "Holocaust" question? 
>>
>>An official report on the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in 
>>September 1944 pointed out that internees were permitted to receive 
>>packages, and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. 
>>
>>52. What was the role of the Vatican during the time six million Jews 
>>were allegedly being exterminated? 
>>
>>If there had been an extermination plan, the Vatican would most 
>>certainly have been in a position to know about it. But because there 
>>was none, the Vatican had no reason to speak out against it, and didn't. 
>>
>>53. What evidence is there that Hitler knew of an on-going Jewish 
>>extermination program? 
>>
>>None. 
>>
>>54. Did the Nazis and the Zionists collaborate? 
>>
>>As early as 1933, Hitler's government signed an agreement with the 
>>Zionists permitting Jews to emigrate from Germany to Palestine, taking 
>>large amounts of capital with them. 
>>
>>55. How did Anne Frank die?
>> 
>>After surviving internment in Auschwitz, she succumbed to typhus in the 
>>Bergen-Belsen camp, just a few weeks before the end of the war. The was 
>>not gassed. 
>>
>>56. Is the Anne Frank Diary genuine? 
>>
>>No. Evidence compiled by Dr. Robert Faurisson of France establishes that 
>>the famous diary is a literary hoax. 
>>
>>57. What about the familiar photographs and film footage taken in the 
>>liberated German camps showing piles of emaciated corpses? Are these 
>>faked? 
>>
>>Photographs can be faked, but it's far easier merely to add a misleading 
>>caption to a photo or commentary to a piece of footage. Piles of 
>>emaciated corpses do not mean that these people were "gassed" or 
>>deliberately starved to death. Actually, these were tragic victims of 
>>raging epidemics or of starvation due to a lack of food in the camps 
>>toward the end of the war. 
>>
>>58. Who originated the term "genocide"? 
>>
>>Raphael Lemkin, a Polish Jew, in a book published in 1944. 
>>
>>59. Are films such as "Schindler's List" or "The Winds of War" 
>>documentaries? 
>>
>>No. Such films are fictional dramatizations loosely based on history. 
>>Unfortunately, all too many people accept them as accurate historical 
>>representations.
>> 
>>60. How many books have been published that refute some aspect of the 
>>standard "Holocaust" story? 
>>
>>Dozens. More are in production.
>> 
>>61. What happened when the Institute for Historical Review offered 
>>$50,000 to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz?
>> 
>>No proof was submitted as a claim on the reward, but the Institute was 
>>sued for $17 million by former Auschwitz inmate Mel Mermelstein, who 
>>claimed that the reward offer caused him to lose sleep and his business 
>>to suffer, and represented "injurious denial of established fact." 
>>
>>62. What about the charge that those who question the Holocaust story 
>>are merely anti-Semitic or neo-Nazi? 
>>
>>This is a smear designed to draw attention away from facts and honest 
>>arguments. Scholars who refute Holocaust story claims are of all 
>>persuasions and ethnic-religious backgrounds (including Jewish). There 
>>is no correlation between "Holocaust" refutation and anti-Semitism or
>>"neo-Naziism".
>>
>>63. What has happened to "revisionist" historians who have challenged 
>>the Holocaust story? 
>>
>>They have been subjected to smear campaigns, loss of academic positions, 
>>loss of pensions, destruction of their property and physical violence. 
>>
>>64. Has the Institute for Historical Review suffered any retaliation for 
>>its efforts to uphold the right of freedom of speech and academic 
>>freedom?
>> 
>>The IHR had been bombed three times, and was completely destroyed on 
>>July 4, 1984, in a criminal arson attack. Numerous death threats by 
>>telephone have been received. Media coverage of the IHR has been 
>>overwhelmingly hostile. 
>>
>>65. Why is there so little publicity for the revisionist view? 
>>Because for political reasons the Establishment does not want any 
>>in-depth discussion about the facts surrounding the Holocaust story. 
>>
>>66. Where can I get more information about the "other side" of the 
>>Holocaust story, as well as facts concerning other aspects of World War 
>>II historical revisionism? 
>>
>>The Institute for Historical Review, P.O. Box 2739, Newport Beach, CA 
>>92659, carries a wide variety of books, cassette and video tapes on 
>>significant historical subjects. 
>>
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Another JEW Rabbi in NY state has been caught  dealing drugs - this
time inside a prison!!!

Rabbi Eli Gottesman,a chaplain at a federal medium security prison at
Ray Brook, NY got caught with a large bottle filled with sealed
balloons of cocaine and marijuana.

He is a former head of the "who's Who in canadian Jewry", and has been
a chaplain of the year named by the NY Board of rabbis.



On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:52:54 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:

>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>Christ.

>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>business.
>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:

>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
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2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering

By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997

NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to
launder  and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian
narcotics dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a
synagogue and a yeshiva in Brooklyn. 

The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought
together a collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York
representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who
purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with
ties to a close-knit Jewish community. 

 At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions
of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively
modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from
American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the
Colombian drug lords. 

"Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
traffickers, and the  cynical act of using religious institutions to
conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary
Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in
announcing the charges. 

Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford
Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in
Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day
before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy
to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of
5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid
federal cash-transaction reporting requirements. 

Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of
320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was
released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal
complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in
custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst,
the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case. 

Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used
court-authorize wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint
charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by
taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a
synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting commissions,
writing checks to drug traffickers. 

Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the
name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation
Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more
than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering
transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996. 

Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to
have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and
Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in
drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000
-- the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting
requirement -- through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim
and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location. 

The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was
listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of
people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything
about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim
Shel Shulem. 

The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick
front and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in
Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz
Family of Mexico Building." 

In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people
were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who
would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis
named in the federal complaint. 

The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's
Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service
-- began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in
various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
officials said. 

With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other
techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in
which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in
deposits and withdrawals -- transactions, they said, that let the
conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits. 

Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in
Monday's complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five
of them -- Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio
Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to
have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to
launder. 

The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack
Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40,
and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted
and stashed the money at an apartment at  243 West 75th St. 

There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was
later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel
Shulem.

Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made
out to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions,"
the federal complaint said. 

Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no
formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said.
Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the
laundered money and divided among the intermediaries. 

Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
community came  into contact with professional money launderers and
drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and
Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy
a Beech Super King aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
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On Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:20:49 +0100, "Ulf Alexandersson"
 wrote:

>iearn wrote:
>>> Jews are greedy, they murdered Jesus, now Jews murdering Arabs.
>>> What next?
>>
>>Next!?  You and Me; just wait they claim that they are the chosen
>>people.
>
>
>Something reminds me of Manifest Destiny. People who believed in that caused
>the native-american genocides. In another shape, continued directly with
>Hiroshima, Corea, Vietnam. Indirectly to mass-slaughter in Latin America,
>East-Timor, Laos.. Jesus was a Jew, and I think it's tragic how christianity
>has caused the hostility towards Jews throughout history. I don't like their