Path: news.voyager.net!aanews.merit.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.ececs.uc.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!news.pagesat.net!news.he.net!news.slack.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!mail2news Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 14:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.america,alt.anarchism,talk.abortion,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.christnet,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,talk.christianity,alt.apocalypse,alt.atheism,alt.blasphemy,alt.flame,alt.politics.correct,alt.mens-rights,alt.mindcontrol,alt.misc,alt.pagan,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,alt.homosexual,alt.politics.homosexuality,soc.culture.african.american,soc.motss,talk.atheism,talk.religion.misc,talk.religion.newage,soc.history Subject: Re: Hitler the Christian [sic], actually Leuchter's patents, followups to alt.revisionism References: <email@example.com>
<firstname.lastname@example.org> <33734C84.3EAA@feist.com> Followup-To: alt.revisionism Organization: Grouchy Marxists, http://www.stanford.edu/~llurch/marxism/ From: Rich Graves Message-ID: Mail-To-News-Contact: email@example.com Lines: 104 Xref: news.voyager.net alt.activism:190701 alt.anarchism:12165 talk.abortion:198524 alt.fan.rush-limbaugh:394376 alt.christnet:229841 alt.apocalypse:6059 alt.atheism:263477 alt.blasphemy:20472 alt.flame:177509 alt.politics.correct:177357 alt.mens-rights:47474 alt.mindcontrol:18849 alt.misc:51133 alt.pagan:118641 soc.culture.jewish:175618 soc.culture.israel:80189 alt.homosexual:71458 alt.politics.homosexuality:97228 soc.culture.african.american:202175 soc.motss:171686 talk.atheism:74018 talk.religion.misc:152122 talk.religion.newage:40662 soc.history:37757 In article <33734C84.3EAA@feist.com>, Ray Cochener wrote: [Responding to a pseudonymous drone of the Neo-Nazi National Appliance, http://www.io.com/~arclight/National_Appliance/ ; please don't reply without setting followups appropriately.] For loads of information on Leuchter, see: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/l/leuchter-fred/ This post includes information on Leuchter's patents that is not (yet) available at the URL above. The patent, handling instructions, chemistry, and pathology of Zylon B, the HCN carrier used in the Auschwitz death camp (Treblinka used carbon monoxide), are documented at: http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/auschwitz/cyanide Leuchter's patents on sextants are rather less relevant to the issue of the Holocaust than the patents and science of Zyklon B, about which Leuchter knows nothing. However, the IHR and other Nazi apologists/ advocates happen to lie about those, too, and it's amusing to see how. >> In 1990 Fred A. Leuchter, Jr., was acknowledged in the 1990 issue of >> _The Atlantic_, as the leading expert on the design and fabrication of >> hardware, including homicidal gas chambers, used to execute convicted >> criminals in the United States. Leuchter did postgraduate work at the >> Harvard Astrophysical Observatory and holds patents on the design of >> sextants, surveying instruments and optical encoding equipment. How >> many patents do you hold, Bruce? >> > Wait a second. He holds a patent for an instrument designed 400 years >ago? When did he say he invented the sextant? Twice, in 1974 and 1979. But he claims to have invented the electronic sextant. (By the way, _The Atlantic_ knows they were conned.) You can read Leuchter's patents, or indeed any patent issued since 1971, online thanks to IBM's research group. Fred A. Leuchter's patents relating to electronically assisted sextants are: http://patent.womplex.ibm.com/details?patent_number=4339198 http://patent.womplex.ibm.com/details?patent_number=3968570 The patents for optical encoding equipment appear to belong to another Leuchter. On the worth of the patents: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/l/leuchter-fred/leuchter-paten.html [The following was written by a former "revisionist" of German background who, having investigated the evidence, concluded that the historical and scientific record of the Holocaust is sound.] |Although the finished product, if ever manufactured and marketed (neither |ever have) would indeed be "highly sophisticated technical inventions" |as, IHR claims they are, Leuchter did not do those most highly |sophisticated parts of the engineering design process. Both patents |incorporate a pre-exiting encoder and various pre-existing integrated |circuits (IC's), many of which can be both at Radio Shack for one to |three dollars each. The encoder and IC's are "highly sophisticated |technical inventions", but Fred Leuchter did invent them. Yet, IHR is |latching onto precisely this "high technical sophistication" to make the |claim that Leuchter, working is such a super-engineer that he, working |alone and totaly from scratch, was able to singly-handedly design such a |"highly spohisticated technical invention". | |The digital circuit Leuchter claims to have designed DOES require special |training to design, but I think I will have sufficient training to have |designed it myself after a few more semester in the undergrad electrical |engineering curriculum. Now I certainly hope to one day be a great |engineer, but I am certainly not going to be the super-engineer that IHR |claims Leuchter is in just a few semesters from now. And how do we know |Leuchter actually desighned that circuit. He might have hired an |undergrad EE student to do it for him. Would it work if built and tested? |I do not know. | |The Geodetic Instrument is assigned to Celenav Industries, Inc, but |Celenav does not manufacture anything. It is just a name that Leuchter |once incorporated himself under. And Celenav has only one assignment. It |seems as if Leuchter had created Celenav just to make it appear that his |patent is being manufactured and marketed. Would he then show this to |potential customers as a tool to dupe them into thinking he is a real |engineer? | |It is worth noting that IHR is claiming that Leuchter has many several |patents on a wide variety of "highly sophisticated technical inventions" |and that these patents are all in wide use. - 30 - You tell me whether these patents qualify Leuchter as an expert on Nazi death camps. For another patent with precisely the same relevance to Nazi death camps, see 5351436, "Fly Swatter with sound effects": http://patent.womplex.ibm.com/details?patent_number=5351436 -rich http://www.stanford.edu/~llurch/grouch/
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