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From jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com Wed Jul 19 20:04:20 PDT 1995
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From: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com
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Subject: ABORTION The Real Holocaust
Date: 13 Jul 1995 15:38:38 GMT
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This NG is devoted to making the world feel guilty because a few Jews died duting WWII, an 
event that occurred half a century ago.  However, in the United States, three million children 
are killed in the wombs of their mothers.  That means that 60  million lives have been snuffed 
out at the hands of abortionists in the last couple of decades.

Who do we have to thank for this slaughter?  Well we could start with a nice Jewish lady by 
the name of Margaret Sanger, who founded Planned Parenthood, the largest abortion provider 
and advocate in the United STates.  Who is it that funds this baby killing organization.  It is the 
Jews of course.  

If the Jews have the blood of 60 million babys on their hands, how can they cry every day on 
this newsgroup about the holohoax?  As the commercial goes, "It just doesn't ring true."



From kckluge@krusty.eecs.umich.edu Wed Jul 19 20:04:38 PDT 1995
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From: kckluge@krusty.eecs.umich.edu (Karl Kluge)
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Subject: Re: ABORTION The Real Holocaust
Date: 13 Jul 1995 17:08:29 GMT
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In-reply-to: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com's message of 13 Jul 1995 15:38:38 GMT

In article <3u3elu$fa5@news.cais.com> jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com writes:

>    This NG is devoted to making the world feel guilty because a few Jews
>    died duting WWII, an event that occurred half a century ago.  

No, this newsgroup is devoted to refuting the bullshit lies of those who
deny there was a Nazi intent to exterminate Jews. (And since when does 6
million qualify as "a few"?)

>    However, in the United States, three million children are killed in the
>    wombs of their mothers.  That means that 60 million lives have been
>    snuffed out at the hands of abortionists in the last couple of decades.

Talk.abortion, on the other hand, is a newsgroup devoted to providing a place
for anti-choice idiots like you to take their rants. It is, in fact, the only
place on the net where it is acceptable to discuss abortion. It was, in fact,
created specifically as a place where all abortion discussion on the net would
take place in order to keep it out of newsgroups like this.

So take your nonsense there...




From jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com Wed Jul 19 20:05:10 PDT 1995
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From: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com
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Subject: Re: HOW THE HOLOCAUST MYTH BEGAN
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>   gmcfee@ibm.net (Gord McFee) writes:
>
>  I don't normally cheerlead, but this is one of the funniest posts I have ever 
>  read, and I'm a white guy!  :-)  Gord McFee 

Gord McFee is a strange fellow and wanted to obtain large breast implants.  So he goes to
his Jewish Doctor and asked him to arrange the procedure.  The Jewish Dortor tells Gord
that he can have large breast without the procedure and Gords asked him how?

The Doctor tells him just to rub toilet paper between his breast at bedtime and that should
do the trick.  Gord  told the Doctor he found that incredible.

The Doctor using the flawed logic of the Holohaux told Gord, "Mensch, look what its done for 
your ass. already"

How about chearleading this Gord?  
>>>>




From jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com Wed Jul 19 20:05:12 PDT 1995
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From: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com
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Subject: Re: TALES OF THE HOLOHOAX
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>   hkatz@news.usa.net (Harry Katz) writes:

>  	You will laugh yourself silly...
>  
>  If you take a morbid pleasure in the pain of others, like Mr. Lupton! Harry Katz

Mr. Katz, I did not hear you crying about the painful slaughter of the Lebanese or the 
Palestinians at the Hands of the Israelis.  Could it be that you are only interested when Jews
feel pain?



From jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com Wed Jul 19 20:05:21 PDT 1995
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From: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com
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Subject: Re: TALES OF THE HOLOHOAX
Date: 12 Jul 1995 22:27:24 GMT
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>   kfilan@netcom.com (kevin filan) writes:
>First: there are at least a few "Exterminationists" on here who 
>  DO cry about the painful slaughter of the Lebanese and Palestinians and 
>  who ARE critics of the Israeli government's policies.  I happen to be one 
>  of them.  
>  
Mr Filan, you are to be commended for a well reasoned and caring response.  You asked me
a number of specific questions which I will attempt to answer with a general answer.
It has been my experience that wars are almost always violent both to civilians and 
combatants alike.  The saying that "All is fair in love and war" is a truism.  Many people suffer 
during a war.  WWII was no different.  Many Jewish civilians were killed or died during that
conflict.  Similarly, the residents of Berlin and Dresden suffered nightly bombing raids with many 
casualties.  The German soldiers on the Russian front also suffered, where many soldiers 
litterally froze to death. 

The point is that War is hell for all involved.  After every war there is the feeling of certain 
parties that they suffered more than others.  In Vietnam, many innocent civilian villiagers would 
find themselves under napalm air attacks.  The American POWs that were captured and died 
in captivity is terrible and has not been resolved to this day.  

As terrible as war is, it seems to be the only way that conflicts can be ultimately resolved.  It 
seems to me that as long as we engage in warfare, we all should be willing to accept the 
horrible consequences that result from warfare.  After all, the purpose of war is to Kill 
and injure as many people as possible.  If you accept the rationale that war is hell, we should 
not complain that people suffer as a result of these wars.  The fact that some people suffer 
more than others is irrelevant.  There really should be no rules except lex tallon.  



From jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com Wed Jul 19 20:08:13 PDT 1995
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From: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com
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Subject: Re: ABORTION The Real Holocaust
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>   dbell@maths.tcd.ie (Derek Bell) writes:
>
>  	2. There is much evidence to support the claim that those who try to
>  deny the Holocaust happened are willing to harm Jews and others they consider
>  inferior.

No one is claiming Jews are inferior.  They are the most clever people on the face of this earth.
There is an ole Rumanian Proverb that says, "In the time it takes a German to make a clock, a 
Rumanian can steal 10.  Well the Jews are much smarter than Rumanians, because they 
have stollen several countries, including ours and have convinced many of the citizens that 
this is a great advantage to them. 

Jews are so clever, that they have arranged to have our country allow unlimited immigration of 
non-european peoples into this country to dilute the voting power of the people of European 
heritage.  Many of these White People think the Jewish plan is absolutely wonderful.  You 
have to be mighty clever to achieve that, but they have.




From jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com Wed Jul 19 20:09:25 PDT 1995
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From: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com
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Subject: Re: JLupton's Amazing Assertion
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>   mphilips@access2.digex.net (Michael Philips) writes:

>  BTW, Israel's receipts of oveseas assistance accounts for just 2.8 
>  percent. 

If US foreign aid to Israel is so insignificant, why is it that Rabin travels to the US Congress
to fight to preserve it, whenever budget reduction is being considered.  The trurth is that 
without US subsidies, Israel would go flat bankrupt and all the citizens would immigrate to the 
USA.  Where else?  Boy do we need more Jews!




From jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com Wed Jul 19 23:42:00 PDT 1995
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From: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: ABORTION The Real Holocaust
Date: 13 Jul 1995 15:38:38 GMT
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This NG is devoted to making the world feel guilty because a few Jews died duting WWII, an 
event that occurred half a century ago.  However, in the United States, three million children 
are killed in the wombs of their mothers.  That means that 60  million lives have been snuffed 
out at the hands of abortionists in the last couple of decades.

Who do we have to thank for this slaughter?  Well we could start with a nice Jewish lady by 
the name of Margaret Sanger, who founded Planned Parenthood, the largest abortion provider 
and advocate in the United STates.  Who is it that funds this baby killing organization.  It is the 
Jews of course.  

If the Jews have the blood of 60 million babys on their hands, how can they cry every day on 
this newsgroup about the holohoax?  As the commercial goes, "It just doesn't ring true."



From kckluge@krusty.eecs.umich.edu Wed Jul 19 23:42:14 PDT 1995
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From: kckluge@krusty.eecs.umich.edu (Karl Kluge)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: ABORTION The Real Holocaust
Date: 13 Jul 1995 17:08:29 GMT
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In-reply-to: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com's message of 13 Jul 1995 15:38:38 GMT

In article <3u3elu$fa5@news.cais.com> jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com writes:

>    This NG is devoted to making the world feel guilty because a few Jews
>    died duting WWII, an event that occurred half a century ago.  

No, this newsgroup is devoted to refuting the bullshit lies of those who
deny there was a Nazi intent to exterminate Jews. (And since when does 6
million qualify as "a few"?)

>    However, in the United States, three million children are killed in the
>    wombs of their mothers.  That means that 60 million lives have been
>    snuffed out at the hands of abortionists in the last couple of decades.

Talk.abortion, on the other hand, is a newsgroup devoted to providing a place
for anti-choice idiots like you to take their rants. It is, in fact, the only
place on the net where it is acceptable to discuss abortion. It was, in fact,
created specifically as a place where all abortion discussion on the net would
take place in order to keep it out of newsgroups like this.

So take your nonsense there...




From jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com Wed Jul 19 23:42:45 PDT 1995
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From: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com
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Subject: Re: HOW THE HOLOCAUST MYTH BEGAN
Date: 12 Jul 1995 15:22:50 GMT
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>   gmcfee@ibm.net (Gord McFee) writes:
>
>  I don't normally cheerlead, but this is one of the funniest posts I have ever 
>  read, and I'm a white guy!  :-)  Gord McFee 

Gord McFee is a strange fellow and wanted to obtain large breast implants.  So he goes to
his Jewish Doctor and asked him to arrange the procedure.  The Jewish Dortor tells Gord
that he can have large breast without the procedure and Gords asked him how?

The Doctor tells him just to rub toilet paper between his breast at bedtime and that should
do the trick.  Gord  told the Doctor he found that incredible.

The Doctor using the flawed logic of the Holohaux told Gord, "Mensch, look what its done for 
your ass. already"

How about chearleading this Gord?  
>>>>




From jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com Wed Jul 19 23:42:47 PDT 1995
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From: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com
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Subject: Re: TALES OF THE HOLOHOAX
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>   hkatz@news.usa.net (Harry Katz) writes:

>  	You will laugh yourself silly...
>  
>  If you take a morbid pleasure in the pain of others, like Mr. Lupton! Harry Katz

Mr. Katz, I did not hear you crying about the painful slaughter of the Lebanese or the 
Palestinians at the Hands of the Israelis.  Could it be that you are only interested when Jews
feel pain?



From jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com Wed Jul 19 23:42:54 PDT 1995
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From: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com
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Subject: Re: TALES OF THE HOLOHOAX
Date: 12 Jul 1995 22:27:24 GMT
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>   kfilan@netcom.com (kevin filan) writes:
>First: there are at least a few "Exterminationists" on here who 
>  DO cry about the painful slaughter of the Lebanese and Palestinians and 
>  who ARE critics of the Israeli government's policies.  I happen to be one 
>  of them.  
>  
Mr Filan, you are to be commended for a well reasoned and caring response.  You asked me
a number of specific questions which I will attempt to answer with a general answer.
It has been my experience that wars are almost always violent both to civilians and 
combatants alike.  The saying that "All is fair in love and war" is a truism.  Many people suffer 
during a war.  WWII was no different.  Many Jewish civilians were killed or died during that
conflict.  Similarly, the residents of Berlin and Dresden suffered nightly bombing raids with many 
casualties.  The German soldiers on the Russian front also suffered, where many soldiers 
litterally froze to death. 

The point is that War is hell for all involved.  After every war there is the feeling of certain 
parties that they suffered more than others.  In Vietnam, many innocent civilian villiagers would 
find themselves under napalm air attacks.  The American POWs that were captured and died 
in captivity is terrible and has not been resolved to this day.  

As terrible as war is, it seems to be the only way that conflicts can be ultimately resolved.  It 
seems to me that as long as we engage in warfare, we all should be willing to accept the 
horrible consequences that result from warfare.  After all, the purpose of war is to Kill 
and injure as many people as possible.  If you accept the rationale that war is hell, we should 
not complain that people suffer as a result of these wars.  The fact that some people suffer 
more than others is irrelevant.  There really should be no rules except lex tallon.  



From jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com Wed Jul 19 23:45:32 PDT 1995
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From: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com
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Subject: Re: ABORTION The Real Holocaust
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>   dbell@maths.tcd.ie (Derek Bell) writes:
>
>  	2. There is much evidence to support the claim that those who try to
>  deny the Holocaust happened are willing to harm Jews and others they consider
>  inferior.

No one is claiming Jews are inferior.  They are the most clever people on the face of this earth.
There is an ole Rumanian Proverb that says, "In the time it takes a German to make a clock, a 
Rumanian can steal 10.  Well the Jews are much smarter than Rumanians, because they 
have stollen several countries, including ours and have convinced many of the citizens that 
this is a great advantage to them. 

Jews are so clever, that they have arranged to have our country allow unlimited immigration of 
non-european peoples into this country to dilute the voting power of the people of European 
heritage.  Many of these White People think the Jewish plan is absolutely wonderful.  You 
have to be mighty clever to achieve that, but they have.




From jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com Wed Jul 19 23:46:43 PDT 1995
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From: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com
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Subject: Re: JLupton's Amazing Assertion
Date: 18 Jul 1995 22:33:23 GMT
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>   mphilips@access2.digex.net (Michael Philips) writes:

>  BTW, Israel's receipts of oveseas assistance accounts for just 2.8 
>  percent. 

If US foreign aid to Israel is so insignificant, why is it that Rabin travels to the US Congress
to fight to preserve it, whenever budget reduction is being considered.  The trurth is that 
without US subsidies, Israel would go flat bankrupt and all the citizens would immigrate to the 
USA.  Where else?  Boy do we need more Jews!




From jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com Thu Jul 20 18:55:19 PDT 1995
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From: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com
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Subject: ISRAELI AGENTS Make US Foreign Policy
Date: 18 Jul 1995 22:20:37 GMT
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Our State Department is staffed with a great many Israeli agents who hold high level positions 
that make US Foreign policy.  One such official is MARTIN INDYK, a MOSSAD agent 
previously stationed in Australia and Israel, recently was naturalized as a US citizen and 
President Clinton appointed him to a high level State Department policy making position shortly 
after he became a citizen.  Indyk instituted a policy of destablizing any middle east country that 
was deemed hostile to ISRAELI interests.
His policies have caused both Iraq and Iran to become close allies which is not in the interest 
of the US . This story was published in the French newspaper Le Monde on July 12. 1995.
Our CIA has been sending tons of money to opposition groups within Iraq and Iran to unleash 
assassinations and create border incidents.  Meanwhile, US corporations have been 
prevented from doing business with the oil interests in these countries, and Israeli companies 
have been taking advantage of the absense of US business interests in these countries.
This is just another example of how we have all become slaves to the Jews.



From jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com Thu Jul 20 19:56:26 PDT 1995
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Subject: ISRAELI AGENTS Make US Foreign Policy
Date: 18 Jul 1995 22:20:37 GMT
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Our State Department is staffed with a great many Israeli agents who hold high level positions 
that make US Foreign policy.  One such official is MARTIN INDYK, a MOSSAD agent 
previously stationed in Australia and Israel, recently was naturalized as a US citizen and 
President Clinton appointed him to a high level State Department policy making position shortly 
after he became a citizen.  Indyk instituted a policy of destablizing any middle east country that 
was deemed hostile to ISRAELI interests.
His policies have caused both Iraq and Iran to become close allies which is not in the interest 
of the US . This story was published in the French newspaper Le Monde on July 12. 1995.
Our CIA has been sending tons of money to opposition groups within Iraq and Iran to unleash 
assassinations and create border incidents.  Meanwhile, US corporations have been 
prevented from doing business with the oil interests in these countries, and Israeli companies 
have been taking advantage of the absense of US business interests in these countries.
This is just another example of how we have all become slaves to the Jews.



From jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com Sat Jul 22 04:55:49 PDT 1995
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Subject: Re: ABORTION The Real Holocaust
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>   hkatz@news.usa.net (Harry Katz) writes:
  Unfortunately, he did not learn
>  enough to provide a single scrap of solid evidence that he is not
>  making it all up as he goes along.

The evidence that supports my claim that Jews have stollen the USA is a matter of public 
record.  Every year the Jewish Controlled Congress appropriates $6 billion of my tax money for 
a foreign aid payment to Israel.  I have to work about 6 months out of the year to pay my taxes 
to support Jews.  

When Jonnathan Pollard, a notorious spy for Israel's Mossad, stole ennormous numbers of 
highly classified state secrets of the USA, our government officials never even held hearings
about why this happened.

When Israel attacked the USS Liberty, a US Naval Ship in the Mediteranian Sea and killed
a large number of U.S. Sailors, Congrerss never held a hearing.

So there is more than enough evidence to support the claim that Jews Control 
our governemt.  Moreover, President Clinton appoints mostly Jews to high level governmental 
positions, to rule over us.  Jews control our media and sources of News such as the New York 
Times and the Washington Post.  What more evidence should be required that we are all 
slaves to the Jews and Israel?



From jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com Sun Jul 23 16:22:07 PDT 1995
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Subject: Re: HOW THE HOLOCAUST MYTH BEGAN
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>   joelr@winternet.com   (Joel Rosenberg) writes:
>
>  Well, in that case, slave, paint my house.  And do a good job, 
>  boy, y'hear?

We are already working half of each year to support the Zionist Occupied Government and to
pay the taxes for the $6 billion foreign aid payment to Israel,  The Jews in Israel like to drive
Mercedes Limos and have free healthcare.  When the White People find out how you have 
made slaves of them, you better watch out.



From jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com Mon Jul 24 16:19:27 PDT 1995
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From: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com
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Subject: Re: Lupton:  ignorant or stupid?
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>   joelr@winternet.com   (Joel Rosenberg) writes:

>  You have a source for these preposterous claims?  Or are you just
>  blowing it out your ass as usual?

Yes, the Republican National Committee has arranged the trip to Israel during the month of  
August for Republican Members of the House of Representatives.  Each representative's 
office was called and asked if the representative was making the trip.  About half admitted 
they were going.  This is an annual trip in which the Israeli government communicates its 
legislative agenda to the members of our Congress who know they will not be reelected if they 
do not comply with the Israeli demands.

Why do you think we White People do not know how much control you have over our 
government?  Is it time yet to Burn the Reichtag?



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From: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com
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>   joelr@winternet.com   (Joel Rosenberg) writes:

>  >Half of our Senators and Congressmen will be spending their summer vacations in Israel as 

>  You have a source for these preposterous claims? 

I sure do have a source.  All you have to do is call the office of your own congressman and he 
will confirm the truth of these vacations.  Your congressman will probably be one of the guests.



From jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com Mon Jul 24 17:19:49 PDT 1995
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From: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Re: Neo-Nazis Among the Most Violent, ADL Study Finds
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>   margotmae@aol.com (MargotMae) writes:
>  Neo-nazi skinheads are among the most violent right-wing groups in the
>  world, according to an 18-month study on the movement conducted by the
>  Anti-Defamation League. In the United States alone, the study reported
I wonder if the ADL study included incidents like the Israeli settler attack on muslim worshipers 
in Hebron.  If the ADL had studied incidents like that, would their conclusions have been 
different?  After all, we know that ADL data is entirely reliable, and never slanted to serve to 
support its own particular view of the world.



From jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com Mon Jul 24 17:20:10 PDT 1995
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From: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com
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>   joelr@winternet.com   (Joel Rosenberg) writes:

>  You have a source for these preposterous claims?  Or are you just
>  blowing it out your ass as usual?

Yes, the Republican National Committee has arranged the trip to Israel during the month of  
August for Republican Members of the House of Representatives.  Each representative's 
office was called and asked if the representative was making the trip.  About half admitted 
they were going.  This is an annual trip in which the Israeli government communicates its 
legislative agenda to the members of our Congress who know they will not be reelected if they 
do not comply with the Israeli demands.

Why do you think we White People do not know how much control you have over our 
government?  Is it time yet to Burn the Reichtag?



From jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com Mon Jul 24 17:20:35 PDT 1995
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From: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com
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Subject: Re: Lupton:  ignorant or stupid?
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>   joelr@winternet.com   (Joel Rosenberg) writes:

>  >Half of our Senators and Congressmen will be spending their summer vacations in Israel as 

>  You have a source for these preposterous claims? 

I sure do have a source.  All you have to do is call the office of your own congressman and he 
will confirm the truth of these vacations.  Your congressman will probably be one of the guests.



From bzs@world.std.com Tue Jul 25 08:44:09 PDT 1995
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From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: JLupton's Amazing Assertion
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From: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com
>If US foreign aid to Israel is so insignificant, why is it that Rabin
>travels to the US Congress to fight to preserve it, whenever budget
>reduction is being considered.

Damned if I know, Lupton, but let me guess. So they don't stick an
amusement park in the Garden of Gethsemene to raise a few bucks? Or a
national burger chain in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre?

C'mon Lupton, you want to be treated like some schoolyard idiot that's
easy.

>  The trurth is that without US
>subsidies, Israel would go flat bankrupt and all the citizens would
>immigrate to the USA.  Where else?  Boy do we need more Jews!

Yeah, and people like yourself would be wailing about no longer being
able to make pilgrimages to Bethlehem.

Wake up and smell the coffee, Lupton! The US supports Israel, among
other reasons (mostly realpolitik), because the US is a CHRISTIAN
country.

Ever hear of the Crusades? Do you know what they were about?

Good, now use that meat between your ears.

Sorry for the coarseness but some people really need the obvious
smacked between their eyes.

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        -Barry Shein

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From jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com Wed Jul 26 06:13:52 PDT 1995
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From: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com
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Subject: Re: Vote
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>   Michael Philips  writes:
>  
>  OK, let's review:
>  
>  1.  Lupton errs in stating where the Holocaust Museum is located.
This Post is the classic behavior of Jews in their response to criticism.  They attack the author, 
but they never confront the issue that JEWS have won total control over the US Government 
and its politicians.  Readers should note that the White Nationalist seldom make personal attacts 
on the Jews who post in this newsgroup.  However, Jews always make personal attacks on the 
White Nationalist.  The point is there is no way to credibly deny that JEWS have hijacked our 
gouvernment.  So they come with the personal attacks.  Its a Pity.



From jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com Fri Jul 28 13:19:24 PDT 1995
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From: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Vote Lupton for Laughingstock
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>   mphilips@access2.digex.net (Michael Philips) writes:
>  In
>  Lupton, my child, don't you see that it's impossible to respond to your 
>  facts when you don't post any? 
>  But I'll humor you with some more facts of my own: 
>  1.  The Holocaust Museum is located next to the Statue of Liberty.
>  2.  The U.S. Congress appropriated $50 trillion to Israel last fiscal year.
>  3.  The moon is made of green cheese.
>  These facts are true because I say they are, and YOU Lupton are incapable 
>  of proving them wrong, so instead you resort to complaining about 
>  personal attacks, thereby giving boneheads everywhere a bad name.

This is an example of intelligent Jewish Thought.  The facts that I have recited are
a matter of public record.  The alleged facts you recite are made up and are not
a matter of public record.  You would rather the taxpayers not know that we have sent Israel 
$3 billion dollars in foreign aid payments for the last 20 years.  We have also given
JEWS the most choice site on the Mall to build a Jewish Shrine.  It cost the tax
payers considerable money to make this gift of a building and site to the US Holocaust
Museum so the Jews could have a shrine on the Mall equivalent to the Vietnam
War Memorial.  The Jews did not die in the defense of this country as our veterans did.
They were not even citizens of this country.  Why should they be honored above our
veterans?



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From: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Vote Lupton for Laughingstock
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>   mphilips@access2.digex.net (Michael Philips) writes:
> 
>  You don't deserve it, but I'll give you a serious answer.  The Holocaust 
>  Museum is not a Jewish shrine and it is not about honoring foreign 
>  Jews. It is a historical museum devoted to a world-shattering event in which 
>  the United States was very deeply involved (including turning away the 
>  refugee ship "St. Louis" in 1939, thereby sending its passengers back to 
>  almost certain death).  And beyond the American aspect, the Holocaust 


Another example of Jewish logic.  We have no obligation to build a monument on our
Mall for every atrocity that has occurred in history.  We don't even lhave a monument 
to the Indians we shaughtered to take over this country.  Why must their be a
monument to JEWs that had nothing what so ever to do with this country.  As far as
the made up story about the St. Louis, we had no obligation to take in immigrants.
They could have gone to South America.  They wanted to come to the US and
becoem parasites on White People.  The Jews have never immigrated to poor countries.
They only come to weathy ones where they can exploit the workers.  So we had no
obligation to build a monument for Jews.  We were noit responsible for the fact that
they became unwelcome by the Germans, allthough, I can understand why the
Germans wanted them to leave.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>>>>




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>   hkatz@usa.net (Harry Katz) writes:

>  
>  
>  
>  Naturally, there is no way to "credibly deny" evidence that has never
>  been presented!  The point is there is no way to credibly prove that
>  Jews have hijacked our government, or any government!

Well, we could start with evidence that the US Government has made foreign aid payments to
Israel in the amount of at least $3 billion per year for the last 20 years.  That Jews are the largest
majority of Federal Government Officials.  That we have a US Holocaust Museum on our Mall
given to the Jews as a religious shrine by out Zionist Controlled Government.  What better
evidence of Jewish Control of the US Government is there?.



From jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com Sun Jul 30 23:38:58 PDT 1995
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From: jlupton@ids2.idsonline.com
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>   hkatz@usa.net (Harry Katz) writes:
>  I wrote:
s:  Does this prove
>  that Jews control the government?  Ever since Camp David Egypt has
>  received as much American foreign aid as Israel, yet no one contends
>  that Egyptians have "hijacked our government!"  Even more recently,
Mr Katz reveals himself to be a person whose primary loyalty is to Israel and not to the US.
Like the Rosenbergs and J. Pollard he would turn on the US any time there was a conflict 
between the US and Israel.  Egypt only receives foreign aid because Israel wants it to so it will 
not attack Israel.  We had lots of friendsw in the Middle East before we became friends with
Israel.  Deal with these facts>




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