From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Sun Jul 2 22:32:23 PDT 1995 Article: 23013 of alt.revisionism Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!vanbc.wimsey.com!news.mindlink.net!agate!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!equalizer!timbuk.cray.com!news3.mr.net!mr.net!winternet.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: Part 2 of Dresden Message-ID:Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto FreeNet Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 12:47:55 GMT Lines: 655 HOLOCAUST AT DRESDEN By George Fowler (from The Barnes Review) A half century has passed since february 13-14, 1945. Overnight, one of europe's great meccas of art and culture, a city that had become a hospital center for german, american and british wounded, that housed many thousand allied prisoners of war, and that had become a haven to refugees fleeing the red army, was bombed into oblivion. But the perpetrators of one of history's great outrages were to receive the laurels of glorious victory rather than a place in the war crimes dock. Part 1 - PRELUDE TO HOLOCAUST After nearly three years of unremitting Allied air offensives against Germany's civilian population, plans for the destruction of the open city of Dresden, incinerating at least 135,000 people, took shape on March 30, l942. However the seeds of such inhuman hate had long since found fertile soil at 10 Downing Street and within the White House. On the above date Prof. F.A. Lindemann, later, Lord Cherwell, the Prime Minister's Science Advisor and a jewish refugee from Germany, delivered to Winston Churchill a fateful report. In his book BOMBER COMMAND Max Hastings stated that "Cherwell's Report provided the final rationalization for the program Bomber Command was undertaking, and it would henceforth be paper-clipped to the plans of the bomber offensive." Lindemann estimated that every 40 tons of bombs "dropped on built-up areas" would "make 4,000 to 8,000 people homeless." This report to the PM stated: "In l938 over 22 million Germans lived in 58 towns of over 100,000 inhabitants, which, with modern equipment, should be easy to find and hit." Hastings concluded that Lindemann "Hoped to create a nation of refugees, and no doubt also a good many corpses under the rubble, although he was too genteel to say so." There were of course discussions and disagreements regarding strategic and tactical approaches to the bombing of Germany. But Lindermann's report is considered the basic text behind the wholesale bombing of civilian targets. Prior to the report's dispatch to Churchill, a February 143, l942 Air Ministry directive to Bomber Command from Air Vice Marshal Sir Norman Bottomly contained the following Valentine's Day message: "You are accordingly authorized to employ your forces without restriction . . . (operations) should now be focused on the moral of the enemy civil population and in particular, of the industrial workers." On February 22, while Churchill was staying at the White House, it was decided that Air Marshal Arthur Harris would leave his post as the head of the RAF delegation in Washington (an assignment he had held in neutral America beginning June 12, l941) to head Bomber Command. This fateful reassignment would team Harris with a PM of kindred instincts in one of Western history's most costly and ghastly undertakings. The first chapters of World War II, from Germany's Sept. 3, l939 invasion of Poland to the May-June l940 clash in the West when France capitulated and Britain was driven from the continent, saw a scarcity of bombing by the belligerents. This was largely the period of "Sitzkreig" and "Bore War"during which Germany's bombing of Warsaw prior to Poland's surrender marked the only major incident: a relatively moderate attack that proved costly to Germany on the propaganda front. Throughout the l939-40 months of frontal stalemate in the West, Hitler didn't order the Luftwaffe to bomb Britain (while working continually for a negotiated peace with London that would allow him to concentrate on his plan for land acquisition in the East and the destruction of Bolshevism's Soviet bastion). The Royal Air Force confined its activities to the dropping of propaganda leaflets. The bombing of the open city of Freiburg-imBreigeu on May 10, l940, killed 22 children, 13 women, 11 men and 11 soldiers. Whether the bombers were French, British or even German has never been determined but the civilians killed and the property destroyed were real and gave Propaganda Minister Josef Goebbels grist to promise that the Luftwaffe would answer the destruction "in a like manner." Four days later the Germans bombed Rotterdam. From northern German airfields some 100 Heinkel III bombers were poised to attack remaining resistance zones in the city. However, surrender negotiations with the Dutch government were in progress. The raid, planned for 1500 hrs. (3 pm), was ordered postponed after takeoff on a flight of about 100 minutes to target areas. The Dutch government had been stalling during negotiating session. German terms were finally agreed to five minutes before the time set for the attack. But the recall could not be signaled to those bombers that had crossed the Netherlands border. At that point they had reeled in their trailing aerials allowing long range reception. A swift fighter was dispatched to head off the bombers, and from a German panzer position on the ground at Rotterdam, where the mission-scrub signal had been received, signal flares were fired to ward off an attack that began just as the flares went up. The signal was received in time to disengage 40 of the Heinkels. The city's main water supply system was hit, and considerable fire ensued in one area (no incendiaries were dropped) due largely to hits on a margarine plant from which streams of burning oil flowed. In l9l2 the Rotterdam government released figures showing that 980 people had been killed in the raid. The considerable devastation in the city gave Allied propagandists a field day, and Rotterdam became the greatest war atrocity story since Japan's "Rape of Nanking" in the l930s. In his l963 book THE DESTRUCTION OF DRESDEN David Irving noted that "Ninety four tons of bombs had been dropped . . . By comparison, close to 9,000 tons of high explosives and incendiaries were dropped on the inland Ruhr port of Duisburg during the triple blow of 14th October l944." With Germany's bombing of Britain following France's surrender, strategic targets were singled out and hit with a high degree of accuracy. But on the night of August 24, l940 (the main London targets being the vital East End dock-shipping-industrial areas), the target was the oil storage depot at Thames Haven. A navigational error led to the bombing of parts of the East End, the City and St. Giles. The bombing of central London drew the immediate retaliatory response of the Royal Air Force. The following night it bombed Berlin, with slight effect. This enraged Hitler, who issued a command that may have cost Germany victory. He ordered that the Luftwaffe switch its attacks to London and away from RAF installations and radar sites. This allowed the severely depleted Fighter Command a short but much needed period to regroup. The Luftwaffe's incredibly costly (most particularly in terms of seasoned pilots and crew) London "Blitz" is dated from September 7, l940 to May 16, l94l. Luftwaffe figures show that throughout this period 24,177 tons of bombs were dropped during 71 major attacks on London and other areas of industrial concentration, such as Hull, Liverpool and Manchester. The British calculated that, by the end of l940, 13,399 Britons had been killed in raids. The German raid ranking with Rotterdam in terms of propaganda value was the bombing of Coventry in November, l940. In bombing this industrial city Coventry's Cathedral was nearly demolished. Pictures of its ruins filled America's newspapers and newsreel screens. In his l975 book THE FIRST CASUALTY (the title evidently taken from U.S. Sen. Hiram Johnson's 1917 observation that "The first casualty, when war comes, is truth."). Philip Knoghtly noted that the LONDON TIMES editorialized on the "butchery at Coventry . . . The wanton slaughter by a people pretending to be civilized who, it would seem, kill mostly for the joy of destroying." Of this Knightly wrote: "Coventry was actually a legitimate military target, one of the keys to the British war effort" containing such plants as the Standard Motor Co., the British Piston Ring Co., and Kaimler motor works and Alvis aero-engine factory. The British had known of Germany's intent to bomb Coventry due to an early intercept of Germany's ENIGMA code system by way or its ULTRA codebreaking device. But Churchill vetoed interception of the Luftwaffe attack for fear that it would tip the Germans to the fact that their main code had been broken. Thus Coventry entailed a double deception on the part of the British. But this did not deter Churchill from ordering "Operation Rachel." This was the codename for the December 12, l940 Bomber Command attack on Mannheim. On the PM's direct order it was to be a reprisal for the considerable damage done to Coventry and the first occasion in the relatively brief annals of air warfare that an entire city was to be the deliberate target of attack. Britain had began the war with a somewhat antiquated bomber capacity. But by l942 and with America's full material support, Bomber Command was a formidable force. In the spring of l942 Harris sold Churchill the Chief of Air Staff Sir Charles Portal on a 1,000-plane raid. Stretching all human and material resources, l,047 planes, largely with inexperienced crews were gathered. When Churchill and Harris discussed potential casualties, the PM said he was prepared for the loss of 100 planes. Hamburg, Germany's second largest city, was to be the target. But weather conditions dictated a switch to the secondary target and Germany's third largest city, Cologne. The raid was carried out May 30 and it was a success. The city along the Rhine burned deep red well into the sky, the great Cathedral's twin spires (one of which would subsequently be destroyed) clear silhouettes to the airmen above. The raid had wrought instant devastation unequaled since biblical lore. Over 12,000 structures had been totally or partially destroyed, with 45,000 people left homeless. Remarkably, only 496 dead were counted. The water, power gas and telephone complexes were in shambles and 36 factories were destroyed, 70 more badly damaged. Bomber command was delighted at the loss of only 40 aircraft. Max Hastings noted in BOMBER COMMAND that "It was a mere token of the destruction Bomber Command would achieve in l942 and 1943 . . ." In the latter months of l942 U.S. Army Air Corps B-17s and B-25 Liberators began limited daylight operations against targets in France and Germany. The Air Corps' top brass under Gen. H.H. "Hap" Arnold, in conjunction with Bomber Command's leaders were using for an all-out campaign of U.S.-daylight/RAF-night operations. The American airmen had an added incentive. They wanted the postwar establishment of a separate armed service co-equal with the Army and Navy. The bomber offensive was their prime opportunity so show what they could do, and it would lead to many an unnecessary but destructive mission. The efforts of the Air Corps-Bomber command lobbying were fully rewarded at the Roosevelt-Churchill Casablanca conference in January, l943. A Casablanca directive read: "Your primary aim will be the progressive destruction and dislocation of the German military, industrial and economic system, and the undermining of the moral of the German people to the point where their capacity for armed resistance is fatally weakened . . . " Following Casablanca, America's bomber presence escalated markedly, with USAAF (U.S. Army Air Force) fields increasingly dotting the fields of eastern England. The stage was fully set for one of history's darkest dramas, and one that would place gold stars signifying a family member killed in action in the front windows of tens of thousands of American homes. The physical punch to achieve what "Bomber" Harris had envisioned was now in place. Max Hastings wrote: "Long before Casablanca, or even before Cologne, Harris had conceived his campaign for the systematic laying-waste of Germany's cities, and he never had the slightest intention of being deflected from it." In the summer of l943 Bomber Command was to unleash its most lethal strike of the war save for Dresden, and it would provide the first major instance of British and American public doubt and criticism. Although Hamburg had "weathered" Harris's initial 1000-plane raid, it would be visited in a manner that can only be recalled as a determined atrocity. In BOMBER HARRIS author Dudly Saward states that the obliteration of Hamburg, "which went by the ominous code name of 'Gomorrah,' was planned to take place over a period of four nights." Before his crews took off on the first assault the night of July 24-25, Harris told them: "The Battle of Hamburg cannot be won in a single night. It is estimated that 10,000 tons of bombs will have to be dropped to complete the process of elimination. To achieve the maximum effect of air bombardment this city should be subjected to sustained attack. On the first attack a large number of incendiaries are to be carried in order to saturate the fire service." Few could misunderstand these words or the intent behind them. This was not a surgical or even carpet bombing strike against military or industrial targets. Clearly, this was the premeditated murder of a city and its people. In the series of four Hamburg raids, July 24 to August 3, Bomber Command dropped 8,621 tons of bombs on the city, 4,309 tons being incendiaries. Eighth Air Force B-17s dropped 771 tons of explosives during the third raid. Initial deaths were estimated at 41,800, but many thousands more died subsequently or were never counted due to incineration, burial beneath rubble or having been blown to bits. The four-raid total may have equaled Great Britain's official total losses for the war of 41,509, THE BOMBER COMMAND DIARIES, published in l985 by Penguin Books, London, states that the August 2-3 raid largely failed due to thunder-storms. Thus most of the destruction was wrought in three raids. In THE DESTRUCTION OF DRESDEN Irving wrote that "When rescue teams finally cleared their way into hermetically sealed bunkers and shelters, after several weeks, the heat generated inside had been so intense that nothing remained of their occupants: only a soft undulating layer of gray ash was left in one bunker, from which the number of victims could only be estimated as 'between 250 and 300'..." Despite the highly restrictive censorship regulations applied to Allied war correspondents (already deemed supportive of the Allied cause as a condition of clearance) fairly large bits and pieces of what the bomber offense was about leaked to some prominent civilian figures. In England, among the most telling critics were the country's two premier military historians, Maj. Gen. J.F.C. Fuller and Captain Basil Liddell Hart. In August, l943 Fuller drafted an article (evidently not published) the LONDON EVENING STANDARD in which he stated: "The worst devastation of the Goths, Vandals, Huns, Seljuks and Mongols pales into insignificance when compared to the material and moral damage now wrought . . ." Following the thousand-plane Cologne raid Hard drafted a private "reflection" that observed: "It will be ironical if the defenders of civilization depend for victory upon the most barbaric, and unskilled, way of winning a war that the modern world had seen . . . We are not counting for victory on success in the way of degrading it to a new low level . . ." As stated in THE ARMY AIR FORCES IN WORLD WAR II, plans were drawn up in early June, l944 to define the post-D-Day invasion bomber campaign. The recommended priorities to both Bomber Command and the U.S. 8th and 15th Air Force (in Italy) were, in order of priority, oil production, jet and V-weapons, ball bearing plants and tank factories. As Supreme Allied Commander, Dwight D. Eisenhower left both the American commanders (Gens. Spaatz and Doolittle) and Harris free to develop independently their strategic bombing campaigns as they saw fit. It was clearly an opportunity to curtail Harris's incredible excesses. But Eisenhower, essentially a high political functionary in uniform, based higher decisions on the wishers of the President and the Prime Minister. On the scorched road to Dresden there were many occurrences similar to what happened at Hamburg. THE BOMBER COMMAND DIARIES, for the city of Darmstadt on the night of September 11-12, l944, tell that 226 Lancasters and 14 Mosquitoes (light bombers, the four-engine Lancaster being Bomber Command's equivalent of the B-17), produced an outstandingly accurate and concentrated raid on this almost intact city of 120,000 people. A fierce fire area was created in the center and in the districts immediately south and east of the center. Property damage in this area was almost complete. Casualties were very heavy. The deaths of 8,433 people were actually reported to police stations. This figure was made up of: German civilians--1,766 men, 2,743 women and 2,129 children, 936 service personnel, 492 foreign workers and 368 prisoners of war." The United States Strategic Bombing survey, compiled after the war, concluded that deaths in Darmstadt that night may have exceeded the RAF figures (taken from initial German figures) by 5,000 because all deaths were not reported by the 49,200 made homeless by the raid and evacuated from the city. Today, the city of Darmstadt has final figures of 12,300 dead and 70,000 homeless. PART TWO: The Infernal Firestorm-- A Glimpse of Hell Thus a long pattern of operational intent, in which everything on German soil that stood, moved or breathed was considered a legitimate recipient of the bomb bay payloads, had been established long before it became Dresden's turn. To begin with, the city was not an industrial center of even moderate importance. It had been bombed once, some 20 USAAF planes hitting with considerable accuracy the city's small industrial area as a secondary target at midday on October 7, l944 during an attack on the Ruhland oil refinery. This raid was at least consistent with both the publicly stated purpose and propaganda regarding the bombing campaign, in that it was a basically surgical strike against valid targets. The essence of pre-holocaust Dresden was described in David Irving's book: "Not endowed with any one great capital industry like those of Essen and Hamburg, even though Dresden was of comparable size, the city's economy had been sustained in peacetime by its theaters, museums, cultural institutions and home industries." Irving noted that "for the British prisoners of war . . . life could not easily be bettered. The Dresdeners were familiar with the English from pre-war days, when the city had been a cultural center, and many made friends among the prisoners--a large section of which were from 1st Airborne Division contingent captured at Arnhem." The factor of pre-war English familiarity with Dresden, generations of students having visited it on the Grand Tour, would play a major part in the raid's aftermath. Dresden's fate had been sealed at the February 4-11, l945 FDR-Churchill-Stalin conference at Yalta. Reports about the Dresden decision center on Stalin's desire to see it savaged as a means of enhancing the Red Army's offensive by jamming up German troop movements. U.S. Chief of Staff George C. Marshall announced publicly that Dresden had been attacked at Stalin's specific request, although after the war the Soviets and East Germans repeatedly referred to the raid as a "diabolical plan" of Churchill's "to kill as many people as possible." Roosevelt and Churchill were of course well aware of Dresden's particulars, including the fact that it was a hospital, prisoner of war and, now, refugee center. The concession was allegedly made to soothe the increasingly arrogant and intransigent Kremlin dictator. But given the fact that at Yalta Stalin achieved control over Eastern Europe, in-effect control of Mongolia, Japan's Kurile Islands, and occupation zone in Korea and a guarantee of $20 billion in eventual German reparations, one might have thought that the bear had been amply fed. After Yalta and the war, Churchill of course went into his "deeply suspicious of Stalin" act just as he had feigned surprise at FDR's unconditional surrender announcement at Casablanca. However, just before flying from Russia on February 14, at the very moment of Dresden's awesome trauma, he lauded his hosts' "great leader." And the ever theatrical PM, who certainly ranked with fellow dipsomaniac thespians John Barrymore and Richard Burton, lauded "The redeemed Crimea, cleansed by Russian valor from the foul taint of the Huns." Dresden had once been a pivotal communications and rail center important to the Wehrmacht. But as Irving notes, by the time it received its fatal blow, "The city's strategic significance was scarcely marginal . . . " it was home to 630,000 permanent residents, its numbers swelled by German and Allied wounded, Allied POWs and hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing areas in the path of the Red Army's advance. The city's authorities were convinced that a non strategic city with a large number of military hospitals, POW compounds, etc., would not receive anything approaching the annihilative smashing so many other cities and towns had undergone. Therefore most of the air defense and flak batteries that would otherwise be in Dresden were transferred to areas where it was assumed they'd be needed. In THE BOMBER COMMAND WAR DIARIES the basic facts of the February 13-14 Dresden raids were recounted: "796 Lancasters and 9 Mosquitoes were dispatched in two separate raids and dropped 1,478 tons of high explosives and 1,182 tons of incendiary bombs . . . 311 American B-17s dropped 771 tons of bombs on Dresden the next day, with the railway yards as their aiming point. Part of the American Mustang (P-51) fighter escort was ordered to strafe traffic on the roads around Dresden to increase the chaos. The Americans bombed Dresden again on the 15th and on March 2 but it was generally accepted that it was the RAF night raid which caused the most serious damage." Of the American strafing Irving noted: "British prisoners who had been released from their burning camps were among those to suffer the discomfort of machine gun attacks . . . Wherever columns of tramping people were marching in or out of the city they were pounced on by the fighters, and machine-gunned or raked with cannon fire." On February 12 the last pre-attack refugee train had pulled into Dresden. People continued to flow into the city from the East, in foot or packed into horse drawn carts. Dresden had not been declared an open city, but few who would attempt to justify its devastation could deny its in-effect status as such. One RAF Flight Engineer recalled that the brightness of the fires below allowed him to fill in his log sheet by the light that shot skyward. A crewman of another plane wrote: "I confess to taking a glance downward as the bombs fell, and I witnessed the shocking sight of a city on fire from end to end. Dense smoke could be seen drifting away from Dresden, leaving a brilliantly illuminated view of the town. My immediate reaction was a stunned reflection on the comparison between the holocaust below and the warnings of the evangelists in Gospel meetings before the war." David Irving noted that "In many cases during the night raids, people, finding that dense suffocating fumes from above were rolling down into the unventilated basements, broke down the wall breaches. Thus the smoke had access to the next-door cellars as well." One survivor wrote: "The detonations shook the cellar walls. The sound of the explosives mixed with a new, strange sound, which seemed to come closer and closer, the sound of a thundering waterfall; it was the sound of the mighty tornado howling into the inner city." Retired Major James "Knobby" Walsh was an Army Air Corps bombardier in WWII and is a subscriber THE BARNES REVIEW. He forwarded the following passage from Edward Jablonski's AIR WAR--WINGS OF FIRE (Doubleday & Co.): "The horror and the terror on the ground was incredible, destruction was extensive, and the loss of life was frightful. The beautiful little city, its population swollen by an influx of refugees from the east fleeing before the Russians bent on revenge, pillage and rape, and its predominantly wooden buildings, ideal for incendiaries, all but vanished in a howling whirlwind of incineration. Although it is unlikely that the true toll will ever be known, the number of people probably killed at Dresden was about 135,000 (as compared with the atomic bombing of Hiroshima, which killed 71,379)." In the l966 book ORDEAL BY FIRE author Roul Tunley described the Dresden experience of an American woman from New Jersey, Anne Wahle, who had gone to prewar Europe as the wife of an Austrian diplomat. She had survived the Hamburg raids and she and her three children would eventually walk and ride hundreds of miles from Dresden to safety. She recalled: "I had never seen anything like it. Howling gusts of hurricane force whipped flames in all directions. Nothing seemed to be spared. I watched little trains of flame race along garden paths and ignite a tree of even a stone ornament." In THE FIRST CASUALTY Knightly wrote: "The flames ate everything organic, everything that would burn. People died by the thousands: cooked, incinerated or suffocated. Then American planes came the next day to machine-gun survivors as they struggled to the banks of the Elbe." Knightly added that "Precise casualty figures will never be known. The German authorities stopped counting when the known dead reached 25,000 and 35,000 were still missing. Some post-war sources put the number of dead at from 100,000 to 130,000, which would greatly exceed the number killed in the atom-bombing of Hiroshima . . . Dresden was merely a staging center for a half million refugees >from Silesia. The (rail) yards were not even attacked. There were no ammunition workshops and factories, only a small works making optical lenses for gun sights." PART THREE: Aftermath: Coverups and Lies The horror extended well into the aftermath, with countless thousands lacking a bare subsistence food ration in addition to adequate winter shelter. Tens of thousands with various degrees of burns and other injuries went unattended. Dresden had 19 major hospitals, all of them damaged to some degree during the raids and three of them totally wiped out. As the Allied air brass knew, Dresden was a center for convalescing Wehrmacht personnel from all fronts as well as for Allied wounded, a large number of them airmen. Fully realizing the extent of the destruction and the circumstances under which it was meted out, London moved to cover its position even before the follow-up American raid. At 9 am on February 14 the Air Ministry released a full-length bulletin. Irving wrote: "In a statement describing the target city in unusual detail, the Air Ministry stressed the vital importance of Dresden to the enemy: As the center of a railway network and as a great industrial town it had become of the greatest value for controlling the German defenses against Marshal Koniev's Armies." Knightly pointed out that Ministry of Defense records show that no war correspondents flew with the bombers, and that there were no eyewitness accounts save for "a few air crews interviewed on their return, and they were given various concocted explanations as to why they were bombing the city--they were attacking German army headquarters, destroying an arms dump, knocking out an industrial area, or even 'wiping out a large poison gas plant." >From THE FIRST CASUALTY: "The truth first came out in Sweden. At 10:15 am on February 15 a Swedish news bulletin transmitted in Danish to occupied Denmark said that the death toll in Dresden was already between 20,000 and 35,000." Then newspapers in neutral countries began printing stories of the raid. On February 17, the Associated Press reported throughout America: "Allied air chiefs have made the long awaited decision to adopt deliberate terror bombing of German population centers as a ruthless expedient of hastening Hitler's doom." Despite the incredible chronological inaccuracy of the "long-awaited decision," the Dresden story, basically was out. But British censors placed a solid clamp on the true nature of Dresden. They fed the Fleet Street press the official "major strategic target" line. Thus following the raid, readers of the EVENING STANDARD read the lead story, under the headline "The Blasting of Dresden" and accompanied by a front page picture of bombs dropping on indistinguishable targets, without learning anything the government wished withheld. In America, however, millions registered feelings of rage, disillusion and concern Marshall's statement that the raid was staged at Stalin's request set off some anti-administration sentiments in Congress. But overall, Roosevelt's bitter enemies were wary of exposing themselves to accusations of criticism during wartime, a factor that had severely curtailed the Dewey-Rricker Republican ticket in 1944 when FDR won his fourth term. In volume three of THE ARMY AIR FORCES IN WORLD WAR 88, published by the University of Chicago press, it was stated that "General Arnold was disconcerted about the publicity" that the AP story had generated and that "Eisenhower heard all about the issue, and AAF headquarters, aware of the damaging impression the recent publicity had made, took steps to prevent another break." England's Fleet Street blackout did not prevent members of Parliament from becoming privy to Dresden's slaughter. Many MP, especially those who had fond memories of the city, reacted with outrage. Churchill, the holocaust's ultimate button-pusher, became the target of considerable friendly fire. In BOMBER HARRIS Seaward noted that 'The whole question of the Allied bombing policy suddenly came under question." In March, Churchill wrote the Chiefs of Staff: "Lit seems to me that the moment has come when the question of bombing the German cities simply for the sake of increasing the terror, though under other pretexts, should be reviewed." Saward found it amazing that "Churchill, of all people" would reach this conclusion in the wake of severe criticism. He noted that the PM "had been the greatest proponent of destroying Germany city by city . . ." Few today realize that in early l945 the U.S. carried out from England six robot missions of B-17s, each loaded with 10 tons of explosives. The planes were "war weary" craft that had been stripped of armor and armament. Pilots got the drone bombers airborne and pointed toward their German targets, then bailed out. None had been successful in hitting specific targets, and the project was scrapped due to British objections. Air Chief Marshal Sir Charles Portal had expressed fears that the Germans, with a great number of planes but few surviving pilots, would be tempted to reply in kind. As to the German V-1 and V-2 rocket bombs that fell on England in l944, few dispute that they were aimed at strategic targets but that there were a large number of civil casualties. Following the war, involved American and British air commanders would fudge and rationalize the years of day-night civilian slaughter. A B-17 navigator, now a lawyer in Northern Virginia, recalls that in raiding Munich their PMI (Point of Maximum Impact) target was the large fountain in the center of the city's business district at high noon, "in order that we could catch the most people out at lunchtime." But "Bomber" Harris remained unmoved by the slaughter, devastation of cultural landmarks and public criticism. The Cromwellian commander raged against any diversions of Bomber Command's mission. In a March 29, l945 letter to Air Vice Marshal Sir Norman Bottomly, Harris wrote: "The (public) feeling, such as there is, over Dresden could easily be explained by a psychiatrist. It is connected with German bands and Dresden shepherdesses." And in writing Bottomry, a man who knew all the grim details of the Dresden reality, Harris prompted the question of who might better benefit >from the ministrations of a psychiatrist: "Actually Dresden was a mass of munitions works, and intact government center, and a key transportation point to the Least. It is now none of these." Writing of Harris after the war, the compilers of the official British history of WWII wrote: "Sir Arthur Harris made a habit of seeing only one side of a question, and then exaggerating it. He had a tendency to confuse advice with interference, criticism with sabotage and evidence with propaganda. However, Harris was seen quite differently by America's two most celebrated figures of that period. In a July 13, l945 letter that went well beyond cordial recognition, Supreme Allied Commander Dwight D. Eisenhower wrote Harris: "My gratitude to you is a small token for the magnificent service which you have rendered, and my simple expression of thanks sounds totally inadequate. Time and opportunity prohibit the chance I should like to shake you and your men by the hand, and thank each of you personally for all that you have done." On October 17, 1944 Harris had been awarded America's Legion of Merit with the degree of Chief Commander. The citation concluded: "He performed his complex task with inspiring leadership and with outstanding cooperation, skill and determination, reflecting great credit upon the service he represents and upon the Armed forces of the United Nations. (Signed) Franklin D. Roosevelt." And of the long and terrible bombing offensive that emanated from Cherwell and Churchill, and that cost 50,000 American and 55,000 British and Commonwealth lives, Max Hastings observed: "It is almost beyond belief that the German army continued to resist so effectively even amidst the rubble of a nation. The Wehrmacht's dogged retreat, and the continued output from the factories until the final weeks, rendered the concept of moral bombing finally absurd." As with Cromwell in Ireland and Roberts and Kitchener in South Africa, Sir Arthur Harris had broken their walls. But he had not broken their courage. ------------------- This was from The Barnes Review 130 Third Street, SE Washington, DC 20003 1-714-548=5530 "...To Bring History into Accord With the Facts" In the tradition of the Father of Historical Revisionism Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes ****************************************************************************** This file is availible for download at Digital Freedom BBS Tons of Text, Sound and Picture files also availible. 100% Free - Access on first call DIGITAL FREEDOM BBS NODE 1 (416) 462-3327 28.8 v.34 NODE 2 (416) 465-4767 14.4 v.32 -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Sun Jul 2 22:32:27 PDT 1995 Article: 23014 of alt.revisionism Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!vanbc.wimsey.com!news.mindlink.net!agate!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!equalizer!timbuk.cray.com!news3.mr.net!mr.net!winternet.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: THE ANTI-DEFIMATION LEAGUE EXPOSED: Part 1 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 12:51:16 GMT Lines: 88 Toward the end of May a letter of mine concerning the Holocaust was printed in a local newspaper, the Daily Herald. About a month later a letter from the ADL, which was a response to my letter, appeared in the same paper. Here is my letter: Richard Cohen's column, "No, there are not two sides to every story," which appeared in the April 22 Herald, makes me wonder whether Cohen is so prejudiced as to be blind, or whether he has no concern for truth at all and in the manner of a propagandist cares only about what people can be made to believe. According to Cohen, to debate whether six million Jews were exterminated in gas chambers by the Nazis "is like debating whether the earth is flat." Cohen also uses the word "lie." He says of the literature that denies the mass murder of Jews in gas chambers that it is "a set of lies rooted in prejudice." Now to lie is to say something that one knows is untrue. Does Cohen honestly believe that his charge of lying is accurate and fair? Cyanide gas, which was allegedly used by the Nazis, clings to surfaces and leaves a residue that can be detected years later by chemical analysis. Three forensic examinations of the inner walls of the alleged gas chamber in Auschwitz have been made since 1988: one by Fred Leuchter, an American whose business involved the construction of gas chambers for prisons; one by the Institute of Forensic Research in Krakow, which was commissioned by the Auschwitz State Museum; and one by Germar Rudolf, a German chemist. These three forensic examinations all drew the same conclusion: the building had not been used as a gas chamber. What I have just recited is one sound argument among many that disputes the Holocaust. My point is that Holocaust revisionists have reason to believe as they do. They are not contending that the earth is flat, nor are they lying. Ken Blewitt Wheaton Here is the letter in response to my letter, printed in the Herald on July 1: In his letter of May 27, Ken Blewitt attempts to uphold arguments of Holocaust revisionism. In doing so, he relies upon the research of "Fred Leuchter," a self-described engineer from Boston. It is important to know that Leuchter has not been listed by the Massachusetts Board of Professional Engineers and Land Surveyors as a registered, credentialed engineer. Blewitt's denial of the use of gas chambers is not only offensive, but wrong. According to the scholarly work Holocaust, published in 1974, gas chambers were installed and operated at Lublin, Sobibor, Majdanek and Auschwitz-Birkenau from 1942 until November 1944. Such chambers were the mechanisms for the mass murder of approximately 2.5 to 3 million Jews. Further, a report by an ex-medical orderly and Unterscharfuhrer included in "Truth Prevails: Demolishing Holocaust Denial" details the gassing process. The orderly explained, "It is difficult to heave the interlaced corpses out of the chamber as the gas is stiffening all their limbs." Blewitt's statements are rooted in prejudice and are neither 2 sound nor truthful. Denying existence of the Holocaust and subjecting it to "revisionism" is not a legitimate academic process but a means to further anti-Semitic views. Jamie Pearlman Assistant Director Anti-Defamation League Greater Chicago / Wisconsin Region As yet I have not sent a letter to the Herald in reply to Pearlman's letter. I would be interested to hear what those who log on to Cyberspace Minuteman think of Pearlman's letter. Among other things, does it suggest that the ADL has a file on me? Ken Blewitt ****************************************************************************** This file is availible for download at Digital Freedom BBS Tons of Text, Sound and Picture files also availible. 100% Free - Access on first call DIGITAL FREEDOM BBS NODE 1 (416) 462-3327 28.8 v.34 NODE 2 (416) 465-4767 14.4 v.32 -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Sun Jul 2 22:32:32 PDT 1995 Article: 23015 of alt.revisionism Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!vanbc.wimsey.com!news.mindlink.net!agate!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!equalizer!timbuk.cray.com!news3.mr.net!mr.net!winternet.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: THE ANTI-DEFIMATION LEAGUE EXPOSED: Part 2 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 12:53:49 GMT Lines: 286 ADL PROMOTES HATE, ATTORNEY SAYS (Constitution Under Attack!) The growing assault on the First Amendment through "hate crimes" laws being promoted by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B'nai B'rith was discussed on the February 20 broadcast of *SPOTLIGHT* Editor Vince Ryan's weekly radio talk forum, "Editor's Roundtable." Ryan's guest was attorney Kirk Lyons, director of the CAUSE Foundation, which is spearheading a Constitutional counterassault on the forces seeking to subvert the Bill of Rights. Lyons and his foundation have become involved in a number of celebrated cases including the case of persecuted revisionist researcher Fred Leuchter and Idaho dissident Randy Weaver. An edited transcript of the interview follows. Questions by Ryan and his colleagues are in CAPS. Lyon's comments are in regular text. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- WHAT IS THE *CAUSE* FOUNDATION? "CAUSE" stands for "Canada, Australia, United States, South Africa and Europe~--the places where legal traditions prevail and where we feel civil rights are taking the biggest pounding. HOW DID THIS GET STARTED? It started out of the so-called sedition trial in Fort Smith, Arkansas in 1987. That was the government's most significant attempt to muzzle an entire part of the political spectrum by putting their leaders on trial--15 men--for what were basically "thought crimes." Their alleged "seditious conspiracy" was a supposed attempt to overthrow the government of the United States. In using their usual panoply of informers, paid witnesses and down-right perjurers, the government tried to put these men away for 20 years and was unsuccessful. WOULD YOU SUGGEST THE JURORS IN THE CASE SAW THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT SCHEME? Absolutely. This was a true case of jury nullification. The jury took 2-1/2 months of testimony by government witnesses and had just about all they could stand of it. This was a rural jury of good, honest, hardworking Americans, and they saw through this and acquitted all 15 men. WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THE LAST 20 YEARS HAVE BEEN A GREAT ERA FOR CIVIL RIGHTS, AND YOU'RE SUGGESTING JUST THE OPPOSITE. PLEASE EXPLAIN. The problem is that the Bill of Rights, which our Founding Fathers bequeathed us, has been taking a very serious pounding depending on which point of view you are looking at it. If you are coming from the leftist perspective and you see all of these advances of the civil rights movement, these people are now in power, they are the tenured professors. However, the people who really believe in freedom of speech--the dissidents in America, the patriots, the people who do not see "the emperor's new clothes," the politically Incorrect--are having their rights thrown away and basically flushed. When their rights go, all Americans' rights go. DO YOU SEE THIS ESCALATING? WHAT EFFECT WILL THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION HAVE ON ALL OF THIS? Family values are under attack by the Clinton administration, with, for example, the attempts to put avowed homosexuals in the military. We see family values going down the drain, and with that, basic freedoms and liberties. Freedom of speech is under attack because of attempts by government at all levels to impose so-called hate crime laws on America, and this is basically a means of punishing thought that you don't like. WE KEEP HEARING A LOT ABOUT "POLITICALLY CORRECT" THINKING AND ATTEMPTS TO INSTITUTE RULES ABOUT POLITICALLY CORRECT THINKING ON COLLAGE CAMPUSES ETC. DO YOU SEE DANGEROUS TRENDS HERE? Very dangerous trends. If people permit the government to determine what is acceptable political thought and what is not acceptable political thought, then you are in for big trouble. If you are going to trust the government to determine what the protected areas of speech are, then you might as well forget about any concept of freedom of speech because the government will punish that thought which it finds endangers it or which it feels is a threat to its own complacency and security. A LOT OF STATES AND MUNICIPALITIES HAVE HATE CRIMES LEGISLATION ON THE BOOKS. IS THIS A GROWING TREND? Almost all states and most major cities have some form of "ethnic intimidation" or "hate crime" law in effect. Usually it's in the form of an enhancement. For example, if you go to a grocery store and rob it and take the money and run, you get one sentence. However, if you use an ethnic pejorative when you are committing that robbery, you get time-and-a-half, basically, in sentencing. How do they prove a hate crime? They have to go into your belief structure. They kick in your door, take your library, your papers, things you've read and things you've said, and use that to prove you are a "hater" and deserving of a greater punishment. WHAT IS THE OVERALL SUCCESS OF PROSECUTIONS OF SO-CALLED HATE CRIMES? Such prosecutions are very successful because they are picking on people with no resources: street toughs, young people, people who find it much easier to plea bargain than to fight all the way to the Supreme Court. The problem here is that the discretion of whether or not to charge someone with a hate crime is left up to the individual prosecutor. Nine times out of ten when it is Black-on-White crime they will not prosecute it as a hate crime. However, when it is White-on-Black crime--which can get media attention--they will prosecute it as a hate crime and go for the throat. There is a hate crime case before the Supreme Court, Wisconsin vs Mitchell, which is going to address sentencing aspects of hate crimes. In that case a Black youth, after watching the movie Mississippi Burning, saw a White youth walking down the street and told his comrades, "Let's go get him," and beat him up. The fact that a Black individual is the defendant in this case may result in the hate crime statute being knocked out. The free speech aspect is what is really important here. If you beat someone up, you should be charged with battery. If you kill someone you should be charged with murder. However, you should not put someone's belief structure on trial, because that endangers the First Amendment. Put someone in jail for his crime against others, but don't put him in jail for his thoughts. IN SOME STATES IF YOU USE DEROGATORY TERMS AGAINST MINORITIES--BUT NOT NECESSARILY AGAINST WHITES--YOU CAN BE SENTENCED TO JAIL. That's right, and that's true in large parts of Europe now. Everybody is getting in line with the "one world" concept. You can now be sent to jail for hurting someone's feelings, in fact. HOW DOES THE *CAUSE* FOUNDATION GET INVOLVED IN SOME OF THESE CASES? We have contacts throughout the country and in different parts of the world. We have 80 attorneys who work with us and give us information. People call us with a problem or write us. If we think it is a case, crosses Constitutional issues, it's a case we'll get involved in. We're concerned with the First Amendment, in particular, but also the Second Amendment, which provides us a way of protecting all of our guaranteed rights in the Bill of Rights. HOW MANY CASES DO YOU HANDLE A YEAR? We handle roughly 70 to 80 cases a year, but we currently have three major cases we're handling at this time. We're representing Fred Leuchter. The double standard in the area of hate crimes is that hate crimes are being committed against people like Leuchter and against revisionist historians such as those who are affiliated with the Institute for Historical Review. Leuchter, who is probably the world's foremost expert on methods of capital punishment, wrote a pioneering report describing his scientific, forensic examination of the Auschwitz concentration camp in Poland which determined that there were no certifiable traces of cyanide gas having been used for homicidal gassings at the so-called gas chambers at Auschwitz. For doing that he has been hounded and persecuted by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B'nai B'rith. We successfully represented Leuchter in a criminal prosecution brought against him by the state of Massachusetts, which tried to strip him of his professional credentials. We're now working on a civil action against his persecutors. YOU MENTIONED THE ADL, AN UNSAVORY OUTFIT WHICH IS AN ILLEGALLY UNREGISTERED FOREIGN AGENT FOR THE STATE OF ISRAEL. THE ADL HAS BEEN BEHIND THE ENACTMENT OF HATE CRIMES LEGISLATION. One of the most insidious things about the ADL is the way they go to law enforcement agencies around the country and teach them about "hate." The ADL's basic message to law enforcement people is that "right wingers," "tax protesters," "patriots," etc will gut-shoot cops on the spot. They back this up with certain out-of-the-way incidents that have taken place in the past. They tell the police that if they pull over one of these people who are "politically incorrect" the police should use extreme caution because they will end up getting shot. The ADL gets law enforcement people on edge so that there is an automatic, built-in tension on the part of the police when they approach someone who is perceived as being "politically incorrect." THERE'S AN IRONY THERE SINCE MOST OF THESE PEOPLE BEING TARGETED BY THE ADL ARE THE KIND OF PEOPLE WHO ARE LAW-ABIDING, WHO BELIEVE IN THE LAW, WHO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION, WHO ADMIRE THE MEN IN BLUE AND WHO LOOK UPON THE POLICEMAN AS A FRIEND AND NOT AN ENEMY. The ADL is promoting hate. They have created a vicious circle. The law officer doesn't know whether he's going to get shot, and the person being pulled over is wondering, "Is the policeman going to kill me?" The ADL is selling these $20,000 seminars to law enforcement bodies across the country. It's a perfect setup for the ADL. HATE CRIMES THEN WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATELY CALLED "THOUGHT CRIMES." Exactly. Who is determining what is a "hate crime"? It's the government. That's what's so scary. If they can say a young lady at Vanderbilt University is committing a hate crime by hanging a Confederate flag on her wall and put her through an inquisition simply because her Black roommate was slightly offended, that's the kind of insanity these thought crimes [laws] have encouraged. YOU ARE INVOLVED IN THE INFAMOUS RANDY WEAVER CASE IN IDAHO, AREN'T YOU? Yes, we are. We are putting together a civil action against the government on behalf of the Weaver children, suing on their behalf because of the murder of their mother, Vicki who was shot in the head and their brother, Sammy, who was shot in the back. The government had done a psychiatric profile on Mr. and Mrs. Weaver and had advised the snipers (who killed Vicki and Sammy) that the Weavers would try to kill their own children and that they should be considered dangerous. WERE THESE GOVERNMENT PSYCHIATRISTS SUPPLIED THEIR INFORMATION ON THE WEAVERS AND OTHER POLITICAL DISSIDENTS BY THE ADL? Exactly so. Because of that, an FBI sniper killed Vicki Weaver while she held an infant in her arms, shot a 14-year-old boy in the back who was trying to get away. That's why the CAUSE Foundation is around. HOW CAN PEOPLE GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU? They can write: CAUSE Foundation, PO Box 1235, Black Mountain, N.C. 28711 or call (704) 669-5189. We have a newsletter, the *Balance,* which we send to supporters in return for a $20 donation. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kirk Lyons also heads a group called ENOUGH!, which is organizing a public program to counter the publicly funded extravaganza on the Washington Mall associated with the opening of the U.S. Holocaust Museum. A site is now being negotiated with the National Park Service for the counter program. Lyons cites the inappropriateness of memorializing one group's suffering when so many others go unnoted. "Revisionists casts doubt as to whether the museum is built upon an enormous falsehood. Clearly, there is a question as to the propriety of catering to a powerful special interest group that wants a monopoly on suffering," said Lyons. ENOUGH! is located at 325 Pennsylvania Ave. SE, Washington, D.C. 20003; (202) 319-8357. ****************************************************************************** This file is availible for download at Digital Freedom BBS Tons of Text, Sound and Picture files also availible. 100% Free - Access on first call DIGITAL FREEDOM BBS NODE 1 (416) 462-3327 28.8 v.34 NODE 2 (416) 465-4767 14.4 v.32 -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Sun Jul 2 22:32:38 PDT 1995 Article: 23017 of alt.revisionism Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!equalizer!timbuk.cray.com!news3.mr.net!mr.net!winternet.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: THE REAL HOLOCAUST: Dresden Part 1 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 12:34:04 GMT Lines: 270 Subject: DRESDEN: A REAL HOLOCAUST From: vertrauen@aol.com (Vertrauen) February 13 marks the 50th anniversary of the aerial genocide against one of the most important cultural centers of Northern Europe. Within the space of less than 24 hours not only was it reduced to flaming ruins, but over a quarter million of its inhabitants--possibly as many as half a million--had perished in what was the worst massacre of all time. The following account, taken from the Feb. 1985 issue of the NS Bulletin, tells us what a real holocaust is like. Fifty years ago, as Allied planes rained death and destruction over Germany, the old Saxon city of Dresden lay like an island of tranquility amid desolation. Famous as a cultural center and possessing no military value, Dresden had been spared the terror that descended from the skies over the rest of the country. In fact, little had been done to provide the ancient city of artists and craftsmen with anti-aircraft defenses. One squadron of planes had been stationed in Dresden for awhile, but the Luftwaffe decided to move the aircraft to another area where they would be of use. A gentlemen's agreement seemed to prevail, designating Dresden as an "open city." On Shrove Tuesday, February 13, 1945, a flood of refugees fleeing the Red Army 60 miles away had swollen the city's population to well over a million. Each new refugee brought fearful accounts of Soviet atrocities. Little did those refugees retreating from the Red terror imagine that they were about to die in a horror worse than anything Stalin could devise. Normally, a carnival atmosphere prevailed in Dresden on Shrove Tuesday. In 1945, however, the outlook was rather dismal. Houses everywhere overflowed with refugees, and thousands were forced to camp out in the streets, shivering in the bitter cold. However, the people felt relatively safe; and although the mood was grim, the circus played to a full house that night as thousands came to forget for a moment the horrors of war. Bands of little girls paraded about in carnival dress in an effort to bolster waning spirits. Half-sad smiles greeted the laughing girls, but spirits were lifted. No one realized that in less than 24 hours those same innocent children would die screaming in Churchill's firestorm. But, of course, no one could know that then. The Russians, to be sure, were savages, but at least the Americans and British were "honorable". So when the first alarms signaled the start of 14 hours of hell, Dresden's people streamed dutifully into their shelters. But they did so without much enthusiasm, believing the alarms to be false, since their city had never been threatened from the air. Many would never come out alive, for that "great democratic statesman," Winston Churchill--in collusion with that other "great democratic statesman," Franklin Delano Roosevelt-- had decided that the city of Dresden was to be obliterated by saturation bombing. What were Churchill's motives? They appear to have been political, rather than military. Historians unanimously agree that Dresden had no military value. What industry it did have produced only cigarettes and china. But the Yalta Conference was coming up, in which the Soviets and their Western allies would sit down like ghouls to carve up the shattered corpse of Europe. Churchill wanted a trump card-- a devastating "thunderclap of Anglo-American annihilation"--with which to "impress" Stalin. That card, however, was never played at Yalta, because bad weather delayed the originally scheduled raid. Yet Churchill insisted that the raids be carried out-- to "disrupt and confuse" the German civilian population behind the lines. Dresden's citizens barely had tine to reach their shelters. The first bomb fell at 10:09 p.m. The attack lasted 24 minutes, leaving the inner city a raging sea of fire. "Precision saturation bombing" had created the desired firestorm. A firestorm is caused when hundreds of smaller fires join in one vast conflagration. Huge masses of air are sucked in to feed the inferno, causing an artificial tornado. Those persons unlucky enough to be caught in the rush of wind are hurled down entire streets into the flames. Those who seek refuge underground often suffocate as oxygen is pulled from the air to feed the blaze, or they perish in a blast of white heat-- heat intense enough to melt human flesh. WOMEN AND CHILDREN TARGETED One eye witness who survived told of seeing "young women carrying babies running up and down the streets, their dresses and hair on fire, screaming until they fell down, or the collapsing buildings fell on top of them." There was a three-hour pause between the first and second raids. The lull had been calculated to lure civilians >from their shelters into the open again. To escape the flames, thousands of civilians had crowded into the Grosser Garten, a magnificent park nearly one and a half miles square. The second raid came at 1:22 a.m. with no warning. Twice as many bombers returned with a massive load of incendiary bombs. The second wave was designed to spread the raging firestorm into the Grosser Garten. It was a complete "success." Within a few minutes a sheet of flame ripped across the grass, uprooting trees and littering the branches of others with everything from bicycles to human limbs. For days afterward, they remained bizarrely strewn about as grim reminders of Allied sadism. At the start of the second air assault, many were still huddled in tunnels and cellars, waiting for the fires of the first attack to die down. At 1:30 a.m. an ominous rumble reached the ears of the commander of a Labor Service convoy sent into the city on a rescue mission. He described it this way: "The detonation shook the cellar walls. The sound of the explosions mingled with a new, stranger sound which seemed to come closer and closer, the sound of a thundering waterfall; it was the sound of the mighty tornado howling in the inner city." MELTING HUMAN FLESH Others hiding below ground died. But they died painlessly--they simply glowed bright orange and blue in the darkness. As the heat intensified, they either disintegrated into cinders or melted into a thick liquid--often three or four feet deep in spots. Shortly after 10:30 on the morning of February 14, the last raid swept over the city. American bombers pounded the rubble that had been Dresden for a steady 38 minutes. But this attack was not nearly as heavy as the first two. However, what distinguished this raid was the cold- blooded ruthlessness with which it was carried out. U.S. Mustangs appeared low over the city, strafing anything that moved, including a column of rescue vehicles rushing to the city to evacuate survivors. One assault was aimed at the banks of the Elbe River, where refugees had huddled during the horrible night. In the last year of the war, Dresden had become a hospital town. During the previous night's massacre, heroic nurses had dragged thousands of crippled patients to the Elbe. The low-flying Mustangs machine-gunned those helpless patients, as well as thousands of other old men, women and children who had escaped the city. When the last plane left the sky, Dresden was a scorched ruin, its blackened streets filled with corpses. The city was spared no horror. A flock of vultures escaped from the zoo, and fattened on the carnage. Rats swarmed over the piles of corpses. A Swiss citizen described his visit to Dresden two weeks after the raid: "I could see torn-off arms and legs, mutilated torsos and heads which had been wrenched from their bodies and rolled away. In places the corpses were still lying so densely that I had to clear a path through them in order not to tread on arms and legs." The death toll was staggering. The full extent of the Dresden holocaust can be more readily grasped if one considers that over 250,000--possibly as many as half a million--persons died within a 14-hour period, whereas the dead at Hiroshima numbered only 71,878. Allied apologists for the massacre have often "twinned" Dresden with the English city of Coventry. But the 380 killed in Coventry during the entire war cannot begin to compare with the 250,000-plus slaughtered in 14 hours at Dresden. Moreover, Coventry was a munitions center, a legitimate military target. Dresden on the other hand, produced only china--and cups and saucers can hardly be considered military hardware! It is interesting to further compare the respective damage to London and Dresden, especially when we recall all the Hollywood schmaltz about the "London blitz." In one night, 1,600 acres of land were destroyed in the Dresden massacre. London escaped with damage to only 600 acres during the entire war. In one ironic note, Dresden's only conceivable military target--its railroad yard--was ignored by Allied bombers. They were too busy concentrating on helpless old men, women and children. If there ever was a war crime, then certainly the Dresden Holocaust ranks as the most sordid one of all time. Yet there are no movies made today condemning this fiendish slaughter; nor did any Allied airman--or Sir Winston--sit in the dock at Nuremberg. In fact, the Dresden airmen were actually awarded medals for their role in this mass murder. But, of course, they could not have been tried, because they were "only following orders." This is not to say that the mountains of corpses left in Dresden were ignored by the Nuremberg Tribunal. In one final irony, the prosecution presented photographs of the Dresden dead as "evidence" of alleged National Socialist atrocities against Jewish concentration-camp inmates! Churchill, the monster who ordered the Dresden slaughter, was knighted and the rest of his career is history. The cold-blooded sadism of the massacre, however, is brushed aside by his biographers, who still cannot bring themselves to tell how the desire of one madman to "impress" another one led to the mass murder of up to half million men, women and children. ***************************************************************************** This file is availible for download at Digital Freedom BBS Tons of thought provoking Texts, Sound and pictures files also availible 100% Free access on first call DIGITAL FREEDOM BBS (416) 462-3327 NODE 2 (416) 465-4767 -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Sun Jul 2 22:32:41 PDT 1995 Article: 23018 of alt.revisionism Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!vanbc.wimsey.com!news.mindlink.net!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!equalizer!timbuk.cray.com!news3.mr.net!mr.net!winternet.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: New book sheds light on Ernst Zundel Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada References: Zundel, Holocaust, Denial Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:49:10 GMT Lines: 66 Here it is, the book you've been waiting for that summarizes the entire career of the most persecuted book publisher in the world, from his childhood to his latest activism, German-Canadian revisionist Ernst Zundel. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ernst Zundel's name came to the fore of the world stage in 1985 when the government of Canada out him on criminal trial for publishing the book, DID SIX MILLION REALLY DIE? In 1988 he was tried a second time after his first conviction was overturned on appeal. In 1992 the Supreme court of Canada exonerated Zundel and guaranteed free speech rights for all Canadians as a result of the legal battles waged by Zundel and his team of attorneys. Now the whole story of BOTH trials is brought together for the first time inside the covers of one book, Michael A. Hoffman II's THE GREAT HOLOCAUST TRIAL, newly updated and expanded to 144 pages. The book includes a new TOUR DE FORCE essay on civil liberty and historical content, suggesting that our collective ignorance of the other holocausts of the 20th century has led us to permit the growth of Pharisaic fanaticism and government tyranny. Paperback, 144 pages, Illustrated ISBN: 0-929903-05-6 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ORDER YOUR COPY TODAY! 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Offer only good while supplies last -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Mon Jul 3 06:30:31 PDT 1995 Article: 69128 of alt.conspiracy Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!vanbc.wimsey.com!news.mindlink.net!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!equalizer!timbuk.cray.com!news3.mr.net!mr.net!winternet.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: THE REAL HOLOCAUST: Dresden Part 1 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 13:05:17 GMT Lines: 268 Subject: DRESDEN: A REAL HOLOCAUST From: vertrauen@aol.com (Vertrauen) February 13 marks the 50th anniversary of the aerial genocide against one of the most important cultural centers of Northern Europe. Within the space of less than 24 hours not only was it reduced to flaming ruins, but over a quarter million of its inhabitants--possibly as many as half a million--had perished in what was the worst massacre of all time. The following account, taken from the Feb. 1985 issue of the NS Bulletin, tells us what a real holocaust is like. Fifty years ago, as Allied planes rained death and destruction over Germany, the old Saxon city of Dresden lay like an island of tranquility amid desolation. Famous as a cultural center and possessing no military value, Dresden had been spared the terror that descended from the skies over the rest of the country. In fact, little had been done to provide the ancient city of artists and craftsmen with anti-aircraft defenses. One squadron of planes had been stationed in Dresden for awhile, but the Luftwaffe decided to move the aircraft to another area where they would be of use. A gentlemen's agreement seemed to prevail, designating Dresden as an "open city." On Shrove Tuesday, February 13, 1945, a flood of refugees fleeing the Red Army 60 miles away had swollen the city's population to well over a million. Each new refugee brought fearful accounts of Soviet atrocities. Little did those refugees retreating from the Red terror imagine that they were about to die in a horror worse than anything Stalin could devise. Normally, a carnival atmosphere prevailed in Dresden on Shrove Tuesday. In 1945, however, the outlook was rather dismal. Houses everywhere overflowed with refugees, and thousands were forced to camp out in the streets, shivering in the bitter cold. However, the people felt relatively safe; and although the mood was grim, the circus played to a full house that night as thousands came to forget for a moment the horrors of war. Bands of little girls paraded about in carnival dress in an effort to bolster waning spirits. Half-sad smiles greeted the laughing girls, but spirits were lifted. No one realized that in less than 24 hours those same innocent children would die screaming in Churchill's firestorm. But, of course, no one could know that then. The Russians, to be sure, were savages, but at least the Americans and British were "honorable". So when the first alarms signaled the start of 14 hours of hell, Dresden's people streamed dutifully into their shelters. But they did so without much enthusiasm, believing the alarms to be false, since their city had never been threatened from the air. Many would never come out alive, for that "great democratic statesman," Winston Churchill--in collusion with that other "great democratic statesman," Franklin Delano Roosevelt-- had decided that the city of Dresden was to be obliterated by saturation bombing. What were Churchill's motives? They appear to have been political, rather than military. Historians unanimously agree that Dresden had no military value. What industry it did have produced only cigarettes and china. But the Yalta Conference was coming up, in which the Soviets and their Western allies would sit down like ghouls to carve up the shattered corpse of Europe. Churchill wanted a trump card-- a devastating "thunderclap of Anglo-American annihilation"--with which to "impress" Stalin. That card, however, was never played at Yalta, because bad weather delayed the originally scheduled raid. Yet Churchill insisted that the raids be carried out-- to "disrupt and confuse" the German civilian population behind the lines. Dresden's citizens barely had tine to reach their shelters. The first bomb fell at 10:09 p.m. The attack lasted 24 minutes, leaving the inner city a raging sea of fire. "Precision saturation bombing" had created the desired firestorm. A firestorm is caused when hundreds of smaller fires join in one vast conflagration. Huge masses of air are sucked in to feed the inferno, causing an artificial tornado. Those persons unlucky enough to be caught in the rush of wind are hurled down entire streets into the flames. Those who seek refuge underground often suffocate as oxygen is pulled from the air to feed the blaze, or they perish in a blast of white heat-- heat intense enough to melt human flesh. WOMEN AND CHILDREN TARGETED One eye witness who survived told of seeing "young women carrying babies running up and down the streets, their dresses and hair on fire, screaming until they fell down, or the collapsing buildings fell on top of them." There was a three-hour pause between the first and second raids. The lull had been calculated to lure civilians >from their shelters into the open again. To escape the flames, thousands of civilians had crowded into the Grosser Garten, a magnificent park nearly one and a half miles square. The second raid came at 1:22 a.m. with no warning. Twice as many bombers returned with a massive load of incendiary bombs. The second wave was designed to spread the raging firestorm into the Grosser Garten. It was a complete "success." Within a few minutes a sheet of flame ripped across the grass, uprooting trees and littering the branches of others with everything from bicycles to human limbs. For days afterward, they remained bizarrely strewn about as grim reminders of Allied sadism. At the start of the second air assault, many were still huddled in tunnels and cellars, waiting for the fires of the first attack to die down. At 1:30 a.m. an ominous rumble reached the ears of the commander of a Labor Service convoy sent into the city on a rescue mission. He described it this way: "The detonation shook the cellar walls. The sound of the explosions mingled with a new, stranger sound which seemed to come closer and closer, the sound of a thundering waterfall; it was the sound of the mighty tornado howling in the inner city." MELTING HUMAN FLESH Others hiding below ground died. But they died painlessly--they simply glowed bright orange and blue in the darkness. As the heat intensified, they either disintegrated into cinders or melted into a thick liquid--often three or four feet deep in spots. Shortly after 10:30 on the morning of February 14, the last raid swept over the city. American bombers pounded the rubble that had been Dresden for a steady 38 minutes. But this attack was not nearly as heavy as the first two. However, what distinguished this raid was the cold- blooded ruthlessness with which it was carried out. U.S. Mustangs appeared low over the city, strafing anything that moved, including a column of rescue vehicles rushing to the city to evacuate survivors. One assault was aimed at the banks of the Elbe River, where refugees had huddled during the horrible night. In the last year of the war, Dresden had become a hospital town. During the previous night's massacre, heroic nurses had dragged thousands of crippled patients to the Elbe. The low-flying Mustangs machine-gunned those helpless patients, as well as thousands of other old men, women and children who had escaped the city. When the last plane left the sky, Dresden was a scorched ruin, its blackened streets filled with corpses. The city was spared no horror. A flock of vultures escaped from the zoo, and fattened on the carnage. Rats swarmed over the piles of corpses. A Swiss citizen described his visit to Dresden two weeks after the raid: "I could see torn-off arms and legs, mutilated torsos and heads which had been wrenched from their bodies and rolled away. In places the corpses were still lying so densely that I had to clear a path through them in order not to tread on arms and legs." The death toll was staggering. The full extent of the Dresden holocaust can be more readily grasped if one considers that over 250,000--possibly as many as half a million--persons died within a 14-hour period, whereas the dead at Hiroshima numbered only 71,878. Allied apologists for the massacre have often "twinned" Dresden with the English city of Coventry. But the 380 killed in Coventry during the entire war cannot begin to compare with the 250,000-plus slaughtered in 14 hours at Dresden. Moreover, Coventry was a munitions center, a legitimate military target. Dresden on the other hand, produced only china--and cups and saucers can hardly be considered military hardware! It is interesting to further compare the respective damage to London and Dresden, especially when we recall all the Hollywood schmaltz about the "London blitz." In one night, 1,600 acres of land were destroyed in the Dresden massacre. London escaped with damage to only 600 acres during the entire war. In one ironic note, Dresden's only conceivable military target--its railroad yard--was ignored by Allied bombers. They were too busy concentrating on helpless old men, women and children. If there ever was a war crime, then certainly the Dresden Holocaust ranks as the most sordid one of all time. Yet there are no movies made today condemning this fiendish slaughter; nor did any Allied airman--or Sir Winston--sit in the dock at Nuremberg. In fact, the Dresden airmen were actually awarded medals for their role in this mass murder. But, of course, they could not have been tried, because they were "only following orders." This is not to say that the mountains of corpses left in Dresden were ignored by the Nuremberg Tribunal. In one final irony, the prosecution presented photographs of the Dresden dead as "evidence" of alleged National Socialist atrocities against Jewish concentration-camp inmates! Churchill, the monster who ordered the Dresden slaughter, was knighted and the rest of his career is history. The cold-blooded sadism of the massacre, however, is brushed aside by his biographers, who still cannot bring themselves to tell how the desire of one madman to "impress" another one led to the mass murder of up to half million men, women and children. ***************************************************************************** This file is availible for download at Digital Freedom BBS Tons of thought provoking Texts, Sound and pictures files also availible DIGITAL FREEDOM BBS (416) 462-3327 NODE 2 (416) 465-4767 -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Mon Jul 3 06:30:45 PDT 1995 Article: 69129 of alt.conspiracy Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!vanbc.wimsey.com!news.mindlink.net!agate!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!equalizer!timbuk.cray.com!news3.mr.net!mr.net!winternet.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: THE REAL HOLOCAUST: Dresden Part 2 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 13:09:23 GMT Lines: 656 HOLOCAUST AT DRESDEN By George Fowler (from The Barnes Review) A half century has passed since february 13-14, 1945. Overnight, one of europe's great meccas of art and culture, a city that had become a hospital center for german, american and british wounded, that housed many thousand allied prisoners of war, and that had become a haven to refugees fleeing the red army, was bombed into oblivion. But the perpetrators of one of history's great outrages were to receive the laurels of glorious victory rather than a place in the war crimes dock. Part 1 - PRELUDE TO HOLOCAUST After nearly three years of unremitting Allied air offensives against Germany's civilian population, plans for the destruction of the open city of Dresden, incinerating at least 135,000 people, took shape on March 30, l942. However the seeds of such inhuman hate had long since found fertile soil at 10 Downing Street and within the White House. On the above date Prof. F.A. Lindemann, later, Lord Cherwell, the Prime Minister's Science Advisor and a jewish refugee from Germany, delivered to Winston Churchill a fateful report. In his book BOMBER COMMAND Max Hastings stated that "Cherwell's Report provided the final rationalization for the program Bomber Command was undertaking, and it would henceforth be paper-clipped to the plans of the bomber offensive." Lindemann estimated that every 40 tons of bombs "dropped on built-up areas" would "make 4,000 to 8,000 people homeless." This report to the PM stated: "In l938 over 22 million Germans lived in 58 towns of over 100,000 inhabitants, which, with modern equipment, should be easy to find and hit." Hastings concluded that Lindemann "Hoped to create a nation of refugees, and no doubt also a good many corpses under the rubble, although he was too genteel to say so." There were of course discussions and disagreements regarding strategic and tactical approaches to the bombing of Germany. But Lindermann's report is considered the basic text behind the wholesale bombing of civilian targets. Prior to the report's dispatch to Churchill, a February 143, l942 Air Ministry directive to Bomber Command from Air Vice Marshal Sir Norman Bottomly contained the following Valentine's Day message: "You are accordingly authorized to employ your forces without restriction . . . (operations) should now be focused on the moral of the enemy civil population and in particular, of the industrial workers." On February 22, while Churchill was staying at the White House, it was decided that Air Marshal Arthur Harris would leave his post as the head of the RAF delegation in Washington (an assignment he had held in neutral America beginning June 12, l941) to head Bomber Command. This fateful reassignment would team Harris with a PM of kindred instincts in one of Western history's most costly and ghastly undertakings. The first chapters of World War II, from Germany's Sept. 3, l939 invasion of Poland to the May-June l940 clash in the West when France capitulated and Britain was driven from the continent, saw a scarcity of bombing by the belligerents. This was largely the period of "Sitzkreig" and "Bore War"during which Germany's bombing of Warsaw prior to Poland's surrender marked the only major incident: a relatively moderate attack that proved costly to Germany on the propaganda front. Throughout the l939-40 months of frontal stalemate in the West, Hitler didn't order the Luftwaffe to bomb Britain (while working continually for a negotiated peace with London that would allow him to concentrate on his plan for land acquisition in the East and the destruction of Bolshevism's Soviet bastion). The Royal Air Force confined its activities to the dropping of propaganda leaflets. The bombing of the open city of Freiburg-imBreigeu on May 10, l940, killed 22 children, 13 women, 11 men and 11 soldiers. Whether the bombers were French, British or even German has never been determined but the civilians killed and the property destroyed were real and gave Propaganda Minister Josef Goebbels grist to promise that the Luftwaffe would answer the destruction "in a like manner." Four days later the Germans bombed Rotterdam. From northern German airfields some 100 Heinkel III bombers were poised to attack remaining resistance zones in the city. However, surrender negotiations with the Dutch government were in progress. The raid, planned for 1500 hrs. (3 pm), was ordered postponed after takeoff on a flight of about 100 minutes to target areas. The Dutch government had been stalling during negotiating session. German terms were finally agreed to five minutes before the time set for the attack. But the recall could not be signaled to those bombers that had crossed the Netherlands border. At that point they had reeled in their trailing aerials allowing long range reception. A swift fighter was dispatched to head off the bombers, and from a German panzer position on the ground at Rotterdam, where the mission-scrub signal had been received, signal flares were fired to ward off an attack that began just as the flares went up. The signal was received in time to disengage 40 of the Heinkels. The city's main water supply system was hit, and considerable fire ensued in one area (no incendiaries were dropped) due largely to hits on a margarine plant from which streams of burning oil flowed. In l9l2 the Rotterdam government released figures showing that 980 people had been killed in the raid. The considerable devastation in the city gave Allied propagandists a field day, and Rotterdam became the greatest war atrocity story since Japan's "Rape of Nanking" in the l930s. In his l963 book THE DESTRUCTION OF DRESDEN David Irving noted that "Ninety four tons of bombs had been dropped . . . By comparison, close to 9,000 tons of high explosives and incendiaries were dropped on the inland Ruhr port of Duisburg during the triple blow of 14th October l944." With Germany's bombing of Britain following France's surrender, strategic targets were singled out and hit with a high degree of accuracy. But on the night of August 24, l940 (the main London targets being the vital East End dock-shipping-industrial areas), the target was the oil storage depot at Thames Haven. A navigational error led to the bombing of parts of the East End, the City and St. Giles. The bombing of central London drew the immediate retaliatory response of the Royal Air Force. The following night it bombed Berlin, with slight effect. This enraged Hitler, who issued a command that may have cost Germany victory. He ordered that the Luftwaffe switch its attacks to London and away from RAF installations and radar sites. This allowed the severely depleted Fighter Command a short but much needed period to regroup. The Luftwaffe's incredibly costly (most particularly in terms of seasoned pilots and crew) London "Blitz" is dated from September 7, l940 to May 16, l94l. Luftwaffe figures show that throughout this period 24,177 tons of bombs were dropped during 71 major attacks on London and other areas of industrial concentration, such as Hull, Liverpool and Manchester. The British calculated that, by the end of l940, 13,399 Britons had been killed in raids. The German raid ranking with Rotterdam in terms of propaganda value was the bombing of Coventry in November, l940. In bombing this industrial city Coventry's Cathedral was nearly demolished. Pictures of its ruins filled America's newspapers and newsreel screens. In his l975 book THE FIRST CASUALTY (the title evidently taken from U.S. Sen. Hiram Johnson's 1917 observation that "The first casualty, when war comes, is truth."). Philip Knoghtly noted that the LONDON TIMES editorialized on the "butchery at Coventry . . . The wanton slaughter by a people pretending to be civilized who, it would seem, kill mostly for the joy of destroying." Of this Knightly wrote: "Coventry was actually a legitimate military target, one of the keys to the British war effort" containing such plants as the Standard Motor Co., the British Piston Ring Co., and Kaimler motor works and Alvis aero-engine factory. The British had known of Germany's intent to bomb Coventry due to an early intercept of Germany's ENIGMA code system by way or its ULTRA codebreaking device. But Churchill vetoed interception of the Luftwaffe attack for fear that it would tip the Germans to the fact that their main code had been broken. Thus Coventry entailed a double deception on the part of the British. But this did not deter Churchill from ordering "Operation Rachel." This was the codename for the December 12, l940 Bomber Command attack on Mannheim. On the PM's direct order it was to be a reprisal for the considerable damage done to Coventry and the first occasion in the relatively brief annals of air warfare that an entire city was to be the deliberate target of attack. Britain had began the war with a somewhat antiquated bomber capacity. But by l942 and with America's full material support, Bomber Command was a formidable force. In the spring of l942 Harris sold Churchill the Chief of Air Staff Sir Charles Portal on a 1,000-plane raid. Stretching all human and material resources, l,047 planes, largely with inexperienced crews were gathered. When Churchill and Harris discussed potential casualties, the PM said he was prepared for the loss of 100 planes. Hamburg, Germany's second largest city, was to be the target. But weather conditions dictated a switch to the secondary target and Germany's third largest city, Cologne. The raid was carried out May 30 and it was a success. The city along the Rhine burned deep red well into the sky, the great Cathedral's twin spires (one of which would subsequently be destroyed) clear silhouettes to the airmen above. The raid had wrought instant devastation unequaled since biblical lore. Over 12,000 structures had been totally or partially destroyed, with 45,000 people left homeless. Remarkably, only 496 dead were counted. The water, power gas and telephone complexes were in shambles and 36 factories were destroyed, 70 more badly damaged. Bomber command was delighted at the loss of only 40 aircraft. Max Hastings noted in BOMBER COMMAND that "It was a mere token of the destruction Bomber Command would achieve in l942 and 1943 . . ." In the latter months of l942 U.S. Army Air Corps B-17s and B-25 Liberators began limited daylight operations against targets in France and Germany. The Air Corps' top brass under Gen. H.H. "Hap" Arnold, in conjunction with Bomber Command's leaders were using for an all-out campaign of U.S.-daylight/RAF-night operations. The American airmen had an added incentive. They wanted the postwar establishment of a separate armed service co-equal with the Army and Navy. The bomber offensive was their prime opportunity so show what they could do, and it would lead to many an unnecessary but destructive mission. The efforts of the Air Corps-Bomber command lobbying were fully rewarded at the Roosevelt-Churchill Casablanca conference in January, l943. A Casablanca directive read: "Your primary aim will be the progressive destruction and dislocation of the German military, industrial and economic system, and the undermining of the moral of the German people to the point where their capacity for armed resistance is fatally weakened . . . " Following Casablanca, America's bomber presence escalated markedly, with USAAF (U.S. Army Air Force) fields increasingly dotting the fields of eastern England. The stage was fully set for one of history's darkest dramas, and one that would place gold stars signifying a family member killed in action in the front windows of tens of thousands of American homes. The physical punch to achieve what "Bomber" Harris had envisioned was now in place. Max Hastings wrote: "Long before Casablanca, or even before Cologne, Harris had conceived his campaign for the systematic laying-waste of Germany's cities, and he never had the slightest intention of being deflected from it." In the summer of l943 Bomber Command was to unleash its most lethal strike of the war save for Dresden, and it would provide the first major instance of British and American public doubt and criticism. Although Hamburg had "weathered" Harris's initial 1000-plane raid, it would be visited in a manner that can only be recalled as a determined atrocity. In BOMBER HARRIS author Dudly Saward states that the obliteration of Hamburg, "which went by the ominous code name of 'Gomorrah,' was planned to take place over a period of four nights." Before his crews took off on the first assault the night of July 24-25, Harris told them: "The Battle of Hamburg cannot be won in a single night. It is estimated that 10,000 tons of bombs will have to be dropped to complete the process of elimination. To achieve the maximum effect of air bombardment this city should be subjected to sustained attack. On the first attack a large number of incendiaries are to be carried in order to saturate the fire service." Few could misunderstand these words or the intent behind them. This was not a surgical or even carpet bombing strike against military or industrial targets. Clearly, this was the premeditated murder of a city and its people. In the series of four Hamburg raids, July 24 to August 3, Bomber Command dropped 8,621 tons of bombs on the city, 4,309 tons being incendiaries. Eighth Air Force B-17s dropped 771 tons of explosives during the third raid. Initial deaths were estimated at 41,800, but many thousands more died subsequently or were never counted due to incineration, burial beneath rubble or having been blown to bits. The four-raid total may have equaled Great Britain's official total losses for the war of 41,509, THE BOMBER COMMAND DIARIES, published in l985 by Penguin Books, London, states that the August 2-3 raid largely failed due to thunder-storms. Thus most of the destruction was wrought in three raids. In THE DESTRUCTION OF DRESDEN Irving wrote that "When rescue teams finally cleared their way into hermetically sealed bunkers and shelters, after several weeks, the heat generated inside had been so intense that nothing remained of their occupants: only a soft undulating layer of gray ash was left in one bunker, from which the number of victims could only be estimated as 'between 250 and 300'..." Despite the highly restrictive censorship regulations applied to Allied war correspondents (already deemed supportive of the Allied cause as a condition of clearance) fairly large bits and pieces of what the bomber offense was about leaked to some prominent civilian figures. In England, among the most telling critics were the country's two premier military historians, Maj. Gen. J.F.C. Fuller and Captain Basil Liddell Hart. In August, l943 Fuller drafted an article (evidently not published) the LONDON EVENING STANDARD in which he stated: "The worst devastation of the Goths, Vandals, Huns, Seljuks and Mongols pales into insignificance when compared to the material and moral damage now wrought . . ." Following the thousand-plane Cologne raid Hard drafted a private "reflection" that observed: "It will be ironical if the defenders of civilization depend for victory upon the most barbaric, and unskilled, way of winning a war that the modern world had seen . . . We are not counting for victory on success in the way of degrading it to a new low level . . ." As stated in THE ARMY AIR FORCES IN WORLD WAR II, plans were drawn up in early June, l944 to define the post-D-Day invasion bomber campaign. The recommended priorities to both Bomber Command and the U.S. 8th and 15th Air Force (in Italy) were, in order of priority, oil production, jet and V-weapons, ball bearing plants and tank factories. As Supreme Allied Commander, Dwight D. Eisenhower left both the American commanders (Gens. Spaatz and Doolittle) and Harris free to develop independently their strategic bombing campaigns as they saw fit. It was clearly an opportunity to curtail Harris's incredible excesses. But Eisenhower, essentially a high political functionary in uniform, based higher decisions on the wishers of the President and the Prime Minister. On the scorched road to Dresden there were many occurrences similar to what happened at Hamburg. THE BOMBER COMMAND DIARIES, for the city of Darmstadt on the night of September 11-12, l944, tell that 226 Lancasters and 14 Mosquitoes (light bombers, the four-engine Lancaster being Bomber Command's equivalent of the B-17), produced an outstandingly accurate and concentrated raid on this almost intact city of 120,000 people. A fierce fire area was created in the center and in the districts immediately south and east of the center. Property damage in this area was almost complete. Casualties were very heavy. The deaths of 8,433 people were actually reported to police stations. This figure was made up of: German civilians--1,766 men, 2,743 women and 2,129 children, 936 service personnel, 492 foreign workers and 368 prisoners of war." The United States Strategic Bombing survey, compiled after the war, concluded that deaths in Darmstadt that night may have exceeded the RAF figures (taken from initial German figures) by 5,000 because all deaths were not reported by the 49,200 made homeless by the raid and evacuated from the city. Today, the city of Darmstadt has final figures of 12,300 dead and 70,000 homeless. PART TWO: The Infernal Firestorm-- A Glimpse of Hell Thus a long pattern of operational intent, in which everything on German soil that stood, moved or breathed was considered a legitimate recipient of the bomb bay payloads, had been established long before it became Dresden's turn. To begin with, the city was not an industrial center of even moderate importance. It had been bombed once, some 20 USAAF planes hitting with considerable accuracy the city's small industrial area as a secondary target at midday on October 7, l944 during an attack on the Ruhland oil refinery. This raid was at least consistent with both the publicly stated purpose and propaganda regarding the bombing campaign, in that it was a basically surgical strike against valid targets. The essence of pre-holocaust Dresden was described in David Irving's book: "Not endowed with any one great capital industry like those of Essen and Hamburg, even though Dresden was of comparable size, the city's economy had been sustained in peacetime by its theaters, museums, cultural institutions and home industries." Irving noted that "for the British prisoners of war . . . life could not easily be bettered. The Dresdeners were familiar with the English from pre-war days, when the city had been a cultural center, and many made friends among the prisoners--a large section of which were from 1st Airborne Division contingent captured at Arnhem." The factor of pre-war English familiarity with Dresden, generations of students having visited it on the Grand Tour, would play a major part in the raid's aftermath. Dresden's fate had been sealed at the February 4-11, l945 FDR-Churchill-Stalin conference at Yalta. Reports about the Dresden decision center on Stalin's desire to see it savaged as a means of enhancing the Red Army's offensive by jamming up German troop movements. U.S. Chief of Staff George C. Marshall announced publicly that Dresden had been attacked at Stalin's specific request, although after the war the Soviets and East Germans repeatedly referred to the raid as a "diabolical plan" of Churchill's "to kill as many people as possible." Roosevelt and Churchill were of course well aware of Dresden's particulars, including the fact that it was a hospital, prisoner of war and, now, refugee center. The concession was allegedly made to soothe the increasingly arrogant and intransigent Kremlin dictator. But given the fact that at Yalta Stalin achieved control over Eastern Europe, in-effect control of Mongolia, Japan's Kurile Islands, and occupation zone in Korea and a guarantee of $20 billion in eventual German reparations, one might have thought that the bear had been amply fed. After Yalta and the war, Churchill of course went into his "deeply suspicious of Stalin" act just as he had feigned surprise at FDR's unconditional surrender announcement at Casablanca. However, just before flying from Russia on February 14, at the very moment of Dresden's awesome trauma, he lauded his hosts' "great leader." And the ever theatrical PM, who certainly ranked with fellow dipsomaniac thespians John Barrymore and Richard Burton, lauded "The redeemed Crimea, cleansed by Russian valor from the foul taint of the Huns." Dresden had once been a pivotal communications and rail center important to the Wehrmacht. But as Irving notes, by the time it received its fatal blow, "The city's strategic significance was scarcely marginal . . . " it was home to 630,000 permanent residents, its numbers swelled by German and Allied wounded, Allied POWs and hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing areas in the path of the Red Army's advance. The city's authorities were convinced that a non strategic city with a large number of military hospitals, POW compounds, etc., would not receive anything approaching the annihilative smashing so many other cities and towns had undergone. Therefore most of the air defense and flak batteries that would otherwise be in Dresden were transferred to areas where it was assumed they'd be needed. In THE BOMBER COMMAND WAR DIARIES the basic facts of the February 13-14 Dresden raids were recounted: "796 Lancasters and 9 Mosquitoes were dispatched in two separate raids and dropped 1,478 tons of high explosives and 1,182 tons of incendiary bombs . . . 311 American B-17s dropped 771 tons of bombs on Dresden the next day, with the railway yards as their aiming point. Part of the American Mustang (P-51) fighter escort was ordered to strafe traffic on the roads around Dresden to increase the chaos. The Americans bombed Dresden again on the 15th and on March 2 but it was generally accepted that it was the RAF night raid which caused the most serious damage." Of the American strafing Irving noted: "British prisoners who had been released from their burning camps were among those to suffer the discomfort of machine gun attacks . . . Wherever columns of tramping people were marching in or out of the city they were pounced on by the fighters, and machine-gunned or raked with cannon fire." On February 12 the last pre-attack refugee train had pulled into Dresden. People continued to flow into the city from the East, in foot or packed into horse drawn carts. Dresden had not been declared an open city, but few who would attempt to justify its devastation could deny its in-effect status as such. One RAF Flight Engineer recalled that the brightness of the fires below allowed him to fill in his log sheet by the light that shot skyward. A crewman of another plane wrote: "I confess to taking a glance downward as the bombs fell, and I witnessed the shocking sight of a city on fire from end to end. Dense smoke could be seen drifting away from Dresden, leaving a brilliantly illuminated view of the town. My immediate reaction was a stunned reflection on the comparison between the holocaust below and the warnings of the evangelists in Gospel meetings before the war." David Irving noted that "In many cases during the night raids, people, finding that dense suffocating fumes from above were rolling down into the unventilated basements, broke down the wall breaches. Thus the smoke had access to the next-door cellars as well." One survivor wrote: "The detonations shook the cellar walls. The sound of the explosives mixed with a new, strange sound, which seemed to come closer and closer, the sound of a thundering waterfall; it was the sound of the mighty tornado howling into the inner city." Retired Major James "Knobby" Walsh was an Army Air Corps bombardier in WWII and is a subscriber THE BARNES REVIEW. He forwarded the following passage from Edward Jablonski's AIR WAR--WINGS OF FIRE (Doubleday & Co.): "The horror and the terror on the ground was incredible, destruction was extensive, and the loss of life was frightful. The beautiful little city, its population swollen by an influx of refugees from the east fleeing before the Russians bent on revenge, pillage and rape, and its predominantly wooden buildings, ideal for incendiaries, all but vanished in a howling whirlwind of incineration. Although it is unlikely that the true toll will ever be known, the number of people probably killed at Dresden was about 135,000 (as compared with the atomic bombing of Hiroshima, which killed 71,379)." In the l966 book ORDEAL BY FIRE author Roul Tunley described the Dresden experience of an American woman from New Jersey, Anne Wahle, who had gone to prewar Europe as the wife of an Austrian diplomat. She had survived the Hamburg raids and she and her three children would eventually walk and ride hundreds of miles from Dresden to safety. She recalled: "I had never seen anything like it. Howling gusts of hurricane force whipped flames in all directions. Nothing seemed to be spared. I watched little trains of flame race along garden paths and ignite a tree of even a stone ornament." In THE FIRST CASUALTY Knightly wrote: "The flames ate everything organic, everything that would burn. People died by the thousands: cooked, incinerated or suffocated. Then American planes came the next day to machine-gun survivors as they struggled to the banks of the Elbe." Knightly added that "Precise casualty figures will never be known. The German authorities stopped counting when the known dead reached 25,000 and 35,000 were still missing. Some post-war sources put the number of dead at from 100,000 to 130,000, which would greatly exceed the number killed in the atom-bombing of Hiroshima . . . Dresden was merely a staging center for a half million refugees >from Silesia. The (rail) yards were not even attacked. There were no ammunition workshops and factories, only a small works making optical lenses for gun sights." PART THREE: Aftermath: Coverups and Lies The horror extended well into the aftermath, with countless thousands lacking a bare subsistence food ration in addition to adequate winter shelter. Tens of thousands with various degrees of burns and other injuries went unattended. Dresden had 19 major hospitals, all of them damaged to some degree during the raids and three of them totally wiped out. As the Allied air brass knew, Dresden was a center for convalescing Wehrmacht personnel from all fronts as well as for Allied wounded, a large number of them airmen. Fully realizing the extent of the destruction and the circumstances under which it was meted out, London moved to cover its position even before the follow-up American raid. At 9 am on February 14 the Air Ministry released a full-length bulletin. Irving wrote: "In a statement describing the target city in unusual detail, the Air Ministry stressed the vital importance of Dresden to the enemy: As the center of a railway network and as a great industrial town it had become of the greatest value for controlling the German defenses against Marshal Koniev's Armies." Knightly pointed out that Ministry of Defense records show that no war correspondents flew with the bombers, and that there were no eyewitness accounts save for "a few air crews interviewed on their return, and they were given various concocted explanations as to why they were bombing the city--they were attacking German army headquarters, destroying an arms dump, knocking out an industrial area, or even 'wiping out a large poison gas plant." >From THE FIRST CASUALTY: "The truth first came out in Sweden. At 10:15 am on February 15 a Swedish news bulletin transmitted in Danish to occupied Denmark said that the death toll in Dresden was already between 20,000 and 35,000." Then newspapers in neutral countries began printing stories of the raid. On February 17, the Associated Press reported throughout America: "Allied air chiefs have made the long awaited decision to adopt deliberate terror bombing of German population centers as a ruthless expedient of hastening Hitler's doom." Despite the incredible chronological inaccuracy of the "long-awaited decision," the Dresden story, basically was out. But British censors placed a solid clamp on the true nature of Dresden. They fed the Fleet Street press the official "major strategic target" line. Thus following the raid, readers of the EVENING STANDARD read the lead story, under the headline "The Blasting of Dresden" and accompanied by a front page picture of bombs dropping on indistinguishable targets, without learning anything the government wished withheld. In America, however, millions registered feelings of rage, disillusion and concern Marshall's statement that the raid was staged at Stalin's request set off some anti-administration sentiments in Congress. But overall, Roosevelt's bitter enemies were wary of exposing themselves to accusations of criticism during wartime, a factor that had severely curtailed the Dewey-Rricker Republican ticket in 1944 when FDR won his fourth term. In volume three of THE ARMY AIR FORCES IN WORLD WAR 88, published by the University of Chicago press, it was stated that "General Arnold was disconcerted about the publicity" that the AP story had generated and that "Eisenhower heard all about the issue, and AAF headquarters, aware of the damaging impression the recent publicity had made, took steps to prevent another break." England's Fleet Street blackout did not prevent members of Parliament from becoming privy to Dresden's slaughter. Many MP, especially those who had fond memories of the city, reacted with outrage. Churchill, the holocaust's ultimate button-pusher, became the target of considerable friendly fire. In BOMBER HARRIS Seaward noted that 'The whole question of the Allied bombing policy suddenly came under question." In March, Churchill wrote the Chiefs of Staff: "Lit seems to me that the moment has come when the question of bombing the German cities simply for the sake of increasing the terror, though under other pretexts, should be reviewed." Saward found it amazing that "Churchill, of all people" would reach this conclusion in the wake of severe criticism. He noted that the PM "had been the greatest proponent of destroying Germany city by city . . ." Few today realize that in early l945 the U.S. carried out from England six robot missions of B-17s, each loaded with 10 tons of explosives. The planes were "war weary" craft that had been stripped of armor and armament. Pilots got the drone bombers airborne and pointed toward their German targets, then bailed out. None had been successful in hitting specific targets, and the project was scrapped due to British objections. Air Chief Marshal Sir Charles Portal had expressed fears that the Germans, with a great number of planes but few surviving pilots, would be tempted to reply in kind. As to the German V-1 and V-2 rocket bombs that fell on England in l944, few dispute that they were aimed at strategic targets but that there were a large number of civil casualties. Following the war, involved American and British air commanders would fudge and rationalize the years of day-night civilian slaughter. A B-17 navigator, now a lawyer in Northern Virginia, recalls that in raiding Munich their PMI (Point of Maximum Impact) target was the large fountain in the center of the city's business district at high noon, "in order that we could catch the most people out at lunchtime." But "Bomber" Harris remained unmoved by the slaughter, devastation of cultural landmarks and public criticism. The Cromwellian commander raged against any diversions of Bomber Command's mission. In a March 29, l945 letter to Air Vice Marshal Sir Norman Bottomly, Harris wrote: "The (public) feeling, such as there is, over Dresden could easily be explained by a psychiatrist. It is connected with German bands and Dresden shepherdesses." And in writing Bottomry, a man who knew all the grim details of the Dresden reality, Harris prompted the question of who might better benefit >from the ministrations of a psychiatrist: "Actually Dresden was a mass of munitions works, and intact government center, and a key transportation point to the Least. It is now none of these." Writing of Harris after the war, the compilers of the official British history of WWII wrote: "Sir Arthur Harris made a habit of seeing only one side of a question, and then exaggerating it. He had a tendency to confuse advice with interference, criticism with sabotage and evidence with propaganda. However, Harris was seen quite differently by America's two most celebrated figures of that period. In a July 13, l945 letter that went well beyond cordial recognition, Supreme Allied Commander Dwight D. Eisenhower wrote Harris: "My gratitude to you is a small token for the magnificent service which you have rendered, and my simple expression of thanks sounds totally inadequate. Time and opportunity prohibit the chance I should like to shake you and your men by the hand, and thank each of you personally for all that you have done." On October 17, 1944 Harris had been awarded America's Legion of Merit with the degree of Chief Commander. The citation concluded: "He performed his complex task with inspiring leadership and with outstanding cooperation, skill and determination, reflecting great credit upon the service he represents and upon the Armed forces of the United Nations. (Signed) Franklin D. Roosevelt." And of the long and terrible bombing offensive that emanated from Cherwell and Churchill, and that cost 50,000 American and 55,000 British and Commonwealth lives, Max Hastings observed: "It is almost beyond belief that the German army continued to resist so effectively even amidst the rubble of a nation. The Wehrmacht's dogged retreat, and the continued output from the factories until the final weeks, rendered the concept of moral bombing finally absurd." As with Cromwell in Ireland and Roberts and Kitchener in South Africa, Sir Arthur Harris had broken their walls. But he had not broken their courage. ------------------- This was from The Barnes Review 130 Third Street, SE Washington, DC 20003 1-714-548=5530 "...To Bring History into Accord With the Facts" In the tradition of the Father of Historical Revisionism Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes ****************************************************************************** This file is availible for download at Digital Freedom BBS Tons of Text, Sound and Picture files also availible. 100% Free - Access on first call DIGITAL FREEDOM BBS NODE 1 (416) 462-3327 28.8 v.34 NODE 2 (416) 465-4767 14.4 v.32 -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Mon Jul 3 06:30:48 PDT 1995 Article: 69130 of alt.conspiracy Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!vanbc.wimsey.com!news.mindlink.net!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!equalizer!timbuk.cray.com!news3.mr.net!mr.net!winternet.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: THE ANTI-DEFIMATION LEAGUE EXPOSED: Part 1 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 13:12:39 GMT Lines: 91 Toward the end of May a letter of mine concerning the Holocaust was printed in a local newspaper, the Daily Herald. About a month later a letter from the ADL, which was a response to my letter, appeared in the same paper. Here is my letter: Richard Cohen's column, "No, there are not two sides to every story," which appeared in the April 22 Herald, makes me wonder whether Cohen is so prejudiced as to be blind, or whether he has no concern for truth at all and in the manner of a propagandist cares only about what people can be made to believe. According to Cohen, to debate whether six million Jews were exterminated in gas chambers by the Nazis "is like debating whether the earth is flat." Cohen also uses the word "lie." He says of the literature that denies the mass murder of Jews in gas chambers that it is "a set of lies rooted in prejudice." Now to lie is to say something that one knows is untrue. Does Cohen honestly believe that his charge of lying is accurate and fair? Cyanide gas, which was allegedly used by the Nazis, clings to surfaces and leaves a residue that can be detected years later by chemical analysis. Three forensic examinations of the inner walls of the alleged gas chamber in Auschwitz have been made since 1988: one by Fred Leuchter, an American whose business involved the construction of gas chambers for prisons; one by the Institute of Forensic Research in Krakow, which was commissioned by the Auschwitz State Museum; and one by Germar Rudolf, a German chemist. These three forensic examinations all drew the same conclusion: the building had not been used as a gas chamber. What I have just recited is one sound argument among many that disputes the Holocaust. My point is that Holocaust revisionists have reason to believe as they do. They are not contending that the earth is flat, nor are they lying. Ken Blewitt Wheaton Here is the letter in response to my letter, printed in the Herald on July 1: In his letter of May 27, Ken Blewitt attempts to uphold arguments of Holocaust revisionism. In doing so, he relies upon the research of "Fred Leuchter," a self-described engineer from Boston. It is important to know that Leuchter has not been listed by the Massachusetts Board of Professional Engineers and Land Surveyors as a registered, credentialed engineer. Blewitt's denial of the use of gas chambers is not only offensive, but wrong. According to the scholarly work Holocaust, published in 1974, gas chambers were installed and operated at Lublin, Sobibor, Majdanek and Auschwitz-Birkenau from 1942 until November 1944. Such chambers were the mechanisms for the mass murder of approximately 2.5 to 3 million Jews. Further, a report by an ex-medical orderly and Unterscharfuhrer included in "Truth Prevails: Demolishing Holocaust Denial" details the gassing process. The orderly explained, "It is difficult to heave the interlaced corpses out of the chamber as the gas is stiffening all their limbs." Blewitt's statements are rooted in prejudice and are neither 2 sound nor truthful. Denying existence of the Holocaust and subjecting it to "revisionism" is not a legitimate academic process but a means to further anti-Semitic views. Jamie Pearlman Assistant Director Anti-Defamation League Greater Chicago / Wisconsin Region As yet I have not sent a letter to the Herald in reply to Pearlman's letter. I would be interested to hear what those who log on to Cyberspace Minuteman think of Pearlman's letter. Among other things, does it suggest that the ADL has a file on me? Ken Blewitt ****************************************************************************** This file is availible for download at Digital Freedom BBS Tons of Text, Sound and Picture files also availible. 100% Free - Access on first call DIGITAL FREEDOM BBS NODE 1 (416) 462-3327 28.8 v.34 NODE 2 (416) 465-4767 14.4 v.32 -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Mon Jul 3 06:30:54 PDT 1995 Article: 69131 of alt.conspiracy Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!vanbc.wimsey.com!news.mindlink.net!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!equalizer!timbuk.cray.com!news3.mr.net!mr.net!winternet.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: THE ANTI-DEFIMATION LEAGUE EXPOSED: Part 2 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 13:14:28 GMT Lines: 286 ADL PROMOTES HATE, ATTORNEY SAYS (Constitution Under Attack!) The growing assault on the First Amendment through "hate crimes" laws being promoted by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B'nai B'rith was discussed on the February 20 broadcast of *SPOTLIGHT* Editor Vince Ryan's weekly radio talk forum, "Editor's Roundtable." Ryan's guest was attorney Kirk Lyons, director of the CAUSE Foundation, which is spearheading a Constitutional counterassault on the forces seeking to subvert the Bill of Rights. Lyons and his foundation have become involved in a number of celebrated cases including the case of persecuted revisionist researcher Fred Leuchter and Idaho dissident Randy Weaver. An edited transcript of the interview follows. Questions by Ryan and his colleagues are in CAPS. Lyon's comments are in regular text. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- WHAT IS THE *CAUSE* FOUNDATION? "CAUSE" stands for "Canada, Australia, United States, South Africa and Europe~--the places where legal traditions prevail and where we feel civil rights are taking the biggest pounding. HOW DID THIS GET STARTED? It started out of the so-called sedition trial in Fort Smith, Arkansas in 1987. That was the government's most significant attempt to muzzle an entire part of the political spectrum by putting their leaders on trial--15 men--for what were basically "thought crimes." Their alleged "seditious conspiracy" was a supposed attempt to overthrow the government of the United States. In using their usual panoply of informers, paid witnesses and down-right perjurers, the government tried to put these men away for 20 years and was unsuccessful. WOULD YOU SUGGEST THE JURORS IN THE CASE SAW THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT SCHEME? Absolutely. This was a true case of jury nullification. The jury took 2-1/2 months of testimony by government witnesses and had just about all they could stand of it. This was a rural jury of good, honest, hardworking Americans, and they saw through this and acquitted all 15 men. WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THE LAST 20 YEARS HAVE BEEN A GREAT ERA FOR CIVIL RIGHTS, AND YOU'RE SUGGESTING JUST THE OPPOSITE. PLEASE EXPLAIN. The problem is that the Bill of Rights, which our Founding Fathers bequeathed us, has been taking a very serious pounding depending on which point of view you are looking at it. If you are coming from the leftist perspective and you see all of these advances of the civil rights movement, these people are now in power, they are the tenured professors. However, the people who really believe in freedom of speech--the dissidents in America, the patriots, the people who do not see "the emperor's new clothes," the politically Incorrect--are having their rights thrown away and basically flushed. When their rights go, all Americans' rights go. DO YOU SEE THIS ESCALATING? WHAT EFFECT WILL THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION HAVE ON ALL OF THIS? Family values are under attack by the Clinton administration, with, for example, the attempts to put avowed homosexuals in the military. We see family values going down the drain, and with that, basic freedoms and liberties. Freedom of speech is under attack because of attempts by government at all levels to impose so-called hate crime laws on America, and this is basically a means of punishing thought that you don't like. WE KEEP HEARING A LOT ABOUT "POLITICALLY CORRECT" THINKING AND ATTEMPTS TO INSTITUTE RULES ABOUT POLITICALLY CORRECT THINKING ON COLLAGE CAMPUSES ETC. DO YOU SEE DANGEROUS TRENDS HERE? Very dangerous trends. If people permit the government to determine what is acceptable political thought and what is not acceptable political thought, then you are in for big trouble. If you are going to trust the government to determine what the protected areas of speech are, then you might as well forget about any concept of freedom of speech because the government will punish that thought which it finds endangers it or which it feels is a threat to its own complacency and security. A LOT OF STATES AND MUNICIPALITIES HAVE HATE CRIMES LEGISLATION ON THE BOOKS. IS THIS A GROWING TREND? Almost all states and most major cities have some form of "ethnic intimidation" or "hate crime" law in effect. Usually it's in the form of an enhancement. For example, if you go to a grocery store and rob it and take the money and run, you get one sentence. However, if you use an ethnic pejorative when you are committing that robbery, you get time-and-a-half, basically, in sentencing. How do they prove a hate crime? They have to go into your belief structure. They kick in your door, take your library, your papers, things you've read and things you've said, and use that to prove you are a "hater" and deserving of a greater punishment. WHAT IS THE OVERALL SUCCESS OF PROSECUTIONS OF SO-CALLED HATE CRIMES? Such prosecutions are very successful because they are picking on people with no resources: street toughs, young people, people who find it much easier to plea bargain than to fight all the way to the Supreme Court. The problem here is that the discretion of whether or not to charge someone with a hate crime is left up to the individual prosecutor. Nine times out of ten when it is Black-on-White crime they will not prosecute it as a hate crime. However, when it is White-on-Black crime--which can get media attention--they will prosecute it as a hate crime and go for the throat. There is a hate crime case before the Supreme Court, Wisconsin vs Mitchell, which is going to address sentencing aspects of hate crimes. In that case a Black youth, after watching the movie Mississippi Burning, saw a White youth walking down the street and told his comrades, "Let's go get him," and beat him up. The fact that a Black individual is the defendant in this case may result in the hate crime statute being knocked out. The free speech aspect is what is really important here. If you beat someone up, you should be charged with battery. If you kill someone you should be charged with murder. However, you should not put someone's belief structure on trial, because that endangers the First Amendment. Put someone in jail for his crime against others, but don't put him in jail for his thoughts. IN SOME STATES IF YOU USE DEROGATORY TERMS AGAINST MINORITIES--BUT NOT NECESSARILY AGAINST WHITES--YOU CAN BE SENTENCED TO JAIL. That's right, and that's true in large parts of Europe now. Everybody is getting in line with the "one world" concept. You can now be sent to jail for hurting someone's feelings, in fact. HOW DOES THE *CAUSE* FOUNDATION GET INVOLVED IN SOME OF THESE CASES? We have contacts throughout the country and in different parts of the world. We have 80 attorneys who work with us and give us information. People call us with a problem or write us. If we think it is a case, crosses Constitutional issues, it's a case we'll get involved in. We're concerned with the First Amendment, in particular, but also the Second Amendment, which provides us a way of protecting all of our guaranteed rights in the Bill of Rights. HOW MANY CASES DO YOU HANDLE A YEAR? We handle roughly 70 to 80 cases a year, but we currently have three major cases we're handling at this time. We're representing Fred Leuchter. The double standard in the area of hate crimes is that hate crimes are being committed against people like Leuchter and against revisionist historians such as those who are affiliated with the Institute for Historical Review. Leuchter, who is probably the world's foremost expert on methods of capital punishment, wrote a pioneering report describing his scientific, forensic examination of the Auschwitz concentration camp in Poland which determined that there were no certifiable traces of cyanide gas having been used for homicidal gassings at the so-called gas chambers at Auschwitz. For doing that he has been hounded and persecuted by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B'nai B'rith. We successfully represented Leuchter in a criminal prosecution brought against him by the state of Massachusetts, which tried to strip him of his professional credentials. We're now working on a civil action against his persecutors. YOU MENTIONED THE ADL, AN UNSAVORY OUTFIT WHICH IS AN ILLEGALLY UNREGISTERED FOREIGN AGENT FOR THE STATE OF ISRAEL. THE ADL HAS BEEN BEHIND THE ENACTMENT OF HATE CRIMES LEGISLATION. One of the most insidious things about the ADL is the way they go to law enforcement agencies around the country and teach them about "hate." The ADL's basic message to law enforcement people is that "right wingers," "tax protesters," "patriots," etc will gut-shoot cops on the spot. They back this up with certain out-of-the-way incidents that have taken place in the past. They tell the police that if they pull over one of these people who are "politically incorrect" the police should use extreme caution because they will end up getting shot. The ADL gets law enforcement people on edge so that there is an automatic, built-in tension on the part of the police when they approach someone who is perceived as being "politically incorrect." THERE'S AN IRONY THERE SINCE MOST OF THESE PEOPLE BEING TARGETED BY THE ADL ARE THE KIND OF PEOPLE WHO ARE LAW-ABIDING, WHO BELIEVE IN THE LAW, WHO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION, WHO ADMIRE THE MEN IN BLUE AND WHO LOOK UPON THE POLICEMAN AS A FRIEND AND NOT AN ENEMY. The ADL is promoting hate. They have created a vicious circle. The law officer doesn't know whether he's going to get shot, and the person being pulled over is wondering, "Is the policeman going to kill me?" The ADL is selling these $20,000 seminars to law enforcement bodies across the country. It's a perfect setup for the ADL. HATE CRIMES THEN WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATELY CALLED "THOUGHT CRIMES." Exactly. Who is determining what is a "hate crime"? It's the government. That's what's so scary. If they can say a young lady at Vanderbilt University is committing a hate crime by hanging a Confederate flag on her wall and put her through an inquisition simply because her Black roommate was slightly offended, that's the kind of insanity these thought crimes [laws] have encouraged. YOU ARE INVOLVED IN THE INFAMOUS RANDY WEAVER CASE IN IDAHO, AREN'T YOU? Yes, we are. We are putting together a civil action against the government on behalf of the Weaver children, suing on their behalf because of the murder of their mother, Vicki who was shot in the head and their brother, Sammy, who was shot in the back. The government had done a psychiatric profile on Mr. and Mrs. Weaver and had advised the snipers (who killed Vicki and Sammy) that the Weavers would try to kill their own children and that they should be considered dangerous. WERE THESE GOVERNMENT PSYCHIATRISTS SUPPLIED THEIR INFORMATION ON THE WEAVERS AND OTHER POLITICAL DISSIDENTS BY THE ADL? Exactly so. Because of that, an FBI sniper killed Vicki Weaver while she held an infant in her arms, shot a 14-year-old boy in the back who was trying to get away. That's why the CAUSE Foundation is around. HOW CAN PEOPLE GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU? They can write: CAUSE Foundation, PO Box 1235, Black Mountain, N.C. 28711 or call (704) 669-5189. We have a newsletter, the *Balance,* which we send to supporters in return for a $20 donation. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kirk Lyons also heads a group called ENOUGH!, which is organizing a public program to counter the publicly funded extravaganza on the Washington Mall associated with the opening of the U.S. Holocaust Museum. A site is now being negotiated with the National Park Service for the counter program. Lyons cites the inappropriateness of memorializing one group's suffering when so many others go unnoted. "Revisionists casts doubt as to whether the museum is built upon an enormous falsehood. Clearly, there is a question as to the propriety of catering to a powerful special interest group that wants a monopoly on suffering," said Lyons. ENOUGH! is located at 325 Pennsylvania Ave. SE, Washington, D.C. 20003; (202) 319-8357. ****************************************************************************** This file is availible for download at Digital Freedom BBS Tons of Text, Sound and Picture files also availible. 100% Free - Access on first call DIGITAL FREEDOM BBS NODE 1 (416) 462-3327 28.8 v.34 NODE 2 (416) 465-4767 14.4 v.32 -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Mon Jul 3 06:32:10 PDT 1995 Article: 69188 of alt.conspiracy Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!vanbc.wimsey.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: THE ANTI-DEFIMATION LEAGUE EXPOSED: Part 3 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 13:22:06 GMT Lines: 1253 White Paper on the ADL FOREIGN AGENTS CONTROL YOUR GOVERNMENT (Spotlight Reprint from August 10, 1981) [This white paper was distributed to every member of the House of Representatives and the Senate of the United States on June 1, 1981 in booklet form. Since then it has been sent hundreds of thousands of Liberty Lobby members and supporters. Demand has grown so fast that this edition has been prepared for each subscriber to The SPOTLIGHT. Extra copies of either the booklet edition or the newsprint edition are available >from Liberty Lobby, 300 Independence Ave, S.E., Washington D.C., 20003, 1-800-522-6292: NEWSPRINT Edition: $10 per hundred, BOOKLET Edition: 10 copies or more 40¢ each.] Dual Loyalists Work Against U.S. Interests Liberty Lobby has always advocated a policy of America first in foreign affairs and this has made it the enemy of every alien interest which wishes to manipulate the power of the United States for its own selfish purposes- purposes not often noble and never in this nation's interests. Thus, Liberty Lobby has been the butt of a sustained smear campaign by the media designed to intimidate potential supporters - to frighten them off for fear of a similar fate. The main organization orchestrating this malicious barrage of hate has been the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B'nai B'rith, and the purpose of this white paper is to analyze the purpose and methods of the ADL. This laudable (not to mention courageous) task becomes all the more important at this time when America stands a hair's- breath away from nuclear war and the ADL is the main culprit leading us into that holocaust. Liberty Lobby deeply resents the fact that America is literally an occupied nation, held in subjection by a foreign government which has seized control of its policy-making apparatus - a once-great nation without the will to resist or to act independently when the interests of this other nation are involved. It is the purpose of Liberty Lobby to acquaint enough Americans with these facts to cause a political upheaval- an upheaval which is clearly on the way simply because the facts are so vivid that they can no longer be hidden. Liberty Lobby urges all readers of this white paper to personally contact their congressman and senators to discuss the facts presented below and to demand that the allegations be either confirmed or denied by official investigation. If the ADL is- as we state- an unregistered agent of a foreign power then the parties responsible must be indicted and tried for felony violation of American law. Congress can do no less than investigate these serious charges and you have the right and obligation to be sure that it does. Background Most Americans have probably never heard of the Anti- Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (ADL). Many of those who have heard of it (including some of its own naive supporters) regard it as nothing more than another in the vast herd of organizations that claim to be promoting brotherhood. Only those who have paid attention to what the ADL is actually doing have a real conception of its nature. The ADL was founded in 1913 by the B'nai B'rith (Sons of the Covenant), a Jewish fraternal organization dating back to 1843. The B'nai B'rith has always publicly represented its own activities as essentially charitable. It is tax-exempt and contributions are tax-deductible. Its creature, the ADL, was allegedly intended to act as a counterforce to anti-Jewish sentiment in the United States. Originally it appeared that the ADL was to be nothing more than a publicity organ of the B'nai B'rith whose purpose was to combat religious prejudice against, and unflattering stereotyping of, the growing number of Jewish immigrants in the United States. It quickly became clear that the ADL had taken to itself a more ambitious role. It would have not only a positive propaganda function; it would also have a "monitoring" or espionage function, along with a suppressive, censoring function whose goal was to prevent anything being heard, read, or seen which was opposed by those who control the ADL. Additionally, the scope of the ADL's protection of the Jews against defamation was defined to include the encouragement of political and social programs and attitudes which would help the Jews (most of whom were arriving from Eastern Europe and were perceived as people of distinctly alien race, tongue, beliefs, and customs) gain more and more power, status, prosperity, and influence. Because the Jews on the whole were "outsiders" working their way up- as were other immigrants- the ADL took a stance that was harshly opposed to people who already "belonged," as well as to their opinions, religions, traditions, heroes, institutions, clubs, jokes, scientific theories, and everything else which tended to bind together and stabilize the already-established Americans into a relatively homogeneous cultural and social whole. Secret Report There was an effort to make the ADL's efforts appear more altruistic, and to disguise their true thrust, by creating the appearance of working on behalf of all minorities, for brotherhood in general. A recent proof that such a scheme was consciously contrived by the ADL is found n a secret report entitled "The Proposed B'nai B'rith- Anti-Defamation League Operations in Latin America," written in 1965 by Arnold Forster, who for many years was general counsel of the ADL. Depicting Latin America as a kind of new frontier for development by the ADL, and lamenting only that Latin America Jews are not more unified and more aware of the threat of anti-Semitism, Forster writes on page 46: (Many elements in the Jewish community are convinced "things are good." These people have closed their eyes for many years to existing anti-Semitism, hoping that by doing so it will go away. This group is fearful that public action designed to counter anti-Jewish hostility will "stir things up." They are reluctant to "make waves," attracting attention to themselves. The only way these Jews will be persuaded to join defense efforts is to "dress up" programs with the problems of other ethnic groups, camouflaging the fight for the Jewish minority in an across-the- board fight for all minorities.) Liberty Lobby has a full copy of this amazing blueprint for expansion into South America by exploiting and intensifying social problems. If resentment arose among the established Americans (most of whom were of Northern European descent), then it would be ascribed to selfishness and prejudice; a strong sense of guilt must be inculcated in those who felt the natural responses of pride and self-defense even as the ADL and other Jewish groups worked to increase Jewish pride. If anybody criticized the ADL or the aims and people it supported, then he was an anti-Semite and a danger to democracy. If anybody opposed legislation that would take money, power, or privileges away fro the established Americans and give them to unestablished Americans, he was somebody to be shunned and humiliated on account of his greed and bigotry. Even those who manifested simple patriotism and pride of heritage were ridiculed as "nativists" or attacked as dangerous fanatics. "Nationalism" became a dirty word in the ADL dictionary because of its connotation of white cohesion. Meanwhile the ADL always dealt sympathetically with any ideology - socialism, communism, internationalism- which promised to break down the existing leadership of society. That was during the first half of this century. And then came political Zionism- no longer just a dream of returning all Jews to a single nation of their own, but instead an active process by which Palestine was to be seized by Jews from its Arab owners and turned into a super-nationalistic state with an official religion, to be populated by Jews from all over the world and supported patriotically and financially by those who did not actually go there. What was bad in America was fine in Israel, as far as the ADL was concerned. America needed a "pluralistic" (that is, accommodating every race, religion, and culture) society, while Israel had a monolithic society. America needed a total separation of church and state (no displays of Christmas trees or crosses on public grounds, and no prayers in public schools), while Israel was inseparable from Judaism. The ADL became the instrument of a foreign power following the Zionist policy of terrorism and aggression in Palestine which resulted in the foundation of Israel. ADL leaders are constantly traveling to and from Israel and have frequent communications with Israeli diplomatic personnel in the United States. ADL publications, such as the "ADL Bulletin" and "Facts," are largely devoted to Israeli and Zionist matters. The energy of the ADL is largely focused on stifling criticism of Israel in this country by labeling such criticism "anti-Semitism" and seeking the ruin of any politician or private citizen who dares to say anything against Zionism or Israeli interests. 34 Americans Killed After Israel's planes knowingly attacked the American ship, "USS Liberty," and killed 34 American sailors, the ADL boasted about its success in covering up and distorting the truth about the atrocity. When Liberty Lobby's daily radio program, "This is Liberty Lobby," reported on Israeli military attacks on the Arabs, the ADL called the program anti-Semitic and bigoted and undertook a long and viscous campaign of lies, threats, and economic intimidation to get the program off the air. As all members of Congress know, more than one man of politics has been consigned to private life because he was less than adoring of Israel, or even because he admitted that there is such a thing as a Zionist lobby or a Zionist influence on the American press- an influence which, less than incidentally, is felt mainly through the ADL. More ominously still, it now appears that Zionist influence in this country is spearheaded by the Israeli secret service, the Mossad, and that the ADL and the openly terrorist Jewish Defense League (JDL) are orchestrated by the Mossad. The ADL maintains a pose of opposition to violence, while the JDL, openly flying the Israeli flag within this country, screams for blood and makes physical assaults on its victims. The same man who loses his job or is denied an office because of the ADL is liable to be beaten up or shot by the JDL. The ADL and the JDL are two horns of the same beast. Methods According to Joseph P. Kamp, Arnold Forster, the long- time general counsel of the ADL, was arrested many years ago for painting swastikas on a synagogue. Much more recently, the Associated Press reported that Irving Rubin, West Coast leader of the JDL, was booked for investigation of using an explosive device in the bombing of the Beth Sar Shalom Religious Center in North Hollywood. This apparently incongruous behavior points up the important fact that the ADL (and the JDL) must have anti- Semitism in order to exist, and they will create the appearance of it if they cannot find it growing in the wild. Zionism is in fact founded on the Zionist's acceptance of anti-Semitism as a natural and unavoidable phenomenon which can be ended only by the movement of Jews to their own homeland. (Herzl, "The Jewish States: An Attempt at a Modern Solution of the Jewish Question," 1943, pp. 19-20; Hertzberg, ed., "The Zionist idea," 1966, p. 49.) As long as most Jews show no inclination to migrate to Israel, the fear of anti-Semitism whipped up by the ADL serves the second useful purpose of garnering tremendous financial and political support for Israel among Jews in America and elsewhere. The scope of the ADL's propaganda efforts would be impossible to detail in a short space. The ADL line is planted in everything from comic books to textbooks, "true confessions" magazines to Christian religious publications. The television series, "Holocaust," was basically an ADL creation and was accomplished by a great outpouring of ADL-orchestrated publicity and a barrage of study guides for use in schools and churches. The same is true, to a lesser extent, of the series "Masada." Without even going into the historical inaccuracies of the two films, their messages can be summed up easily: 1. The Israelis were (are) nicer than all other humans. 2. Jews always are persecuted by unappreciative "gentiles." 3. Israel is Jewish property. 4. Israel is the only hope for Jewish survival. Words and Images To purvey its propaganda the ADL has machined a special set of verbal tools for its unique purposes, just as did the communists, for whom "democracy" means communism and "liquidate" means murder. The ADL vocabulary is designed to make the ADL and its clients look wonderful while making its victims and enemies seem abhorrent. The process begins with the creation of two contrasting images- one of innocence, kindliness, intelligence, and tolerance, and another as an amalgam of disease, neurosis, insanity, wild-eyed religious fanaticism, mindless hatred, torture, and mass murder, most typically in the form of pogroms medieval and modern. We have all seen the movies, the novels, the comics, the plays, the "musicals," the comedians, the well-tutored teachers, and the endless torrent of television programs which create those ADL-desired images. Love and Hate The lines are drawn as clearly as at any Saturday-night professional wrestling match where the handsome, cleancut athlete in the white cowboy hat confronts the grotesque, slavering mound of blubber that will attempt to annihilate him. The crowds love and hate the images even before the battle of good and evil begins, and once it is established who deserves to be obliterated, the same brutal cheating that draws boos when originated by the monster brings screams of delight when used by the good guy. The ADL places itself and those it represents in the angelic realm of Good. Those who oppose it or displease it are consigned to the demonic kingdom of Evil. The military invasions of the Good are righteous wars of self-defense. Everybody else's wars are wars of aggression. The tortures and prison-murders of the Good are interrogations and accidents. The napalming of civilians and the wiping out of whole villages are "retaliations" or inspiring military victories if carried out by the Good, and deeds of infamy to be memorialized 'ad nauseum' if inflicted by the Evil. When the ADL spreads lies about somebody it is "sharing information about the truth nature" of its victim. If the lies are about an employee, the employer is cautioned about "the effect on community good-will of your keeping such an individual on your payroll after you have been made aware of his true nature." A politician or businessman who is threatened with blackmail if he doesn't fall in line is being "sensitized to Jewish concerns." The expression of views disliked by the ADL is a "spewing forth of bigotry and hate." Such views are "filth," "garbage," "obscene," a "threat to American democracy," and constitute "pollution of the airwaves." Such views "are not legitimate fare," and "have no place on the log of a reputable broadcaster." Certain opinions (i.e., those opposed by the ADL) are not within the constitutional protection of freedom of speech. The Chameleon Anti-Semitism The most favored and most devastating terms in the ADL's arsenal are "anti-Semitism" and its variants. There is, of course, nothing worse than anti-Semitism. It is the greatest evil in the history of the world, and it always "lurks just below the surface of Western civilization ready to burst forth in a new orgy of horror." Just why it should lurk there- or even what it is- is rarely discussed, but all good folk must be "ever watchful for its slightest manifestation," and put before all else their efforts to stuff it back under the topsoil when it tries to break out. It is a "deadly virus" which must, along with its carriers, be dealt with like an outbreak of typhoid. Likewise vague, and purposely so, is what constitutes anti-Semitism. It is a wide net that catches many fish. Even a Jew who says the wrong thing- such as Saul Joftes, for many years an officer of the B'nai B'rith, who said that Israel was controlling the ADL and the B'nai B'rith- is called an anti-Semite. He is also a "sick individual" who has deteriorated as a result of "severe emotional problems." In order to make criticism of Zionism ineradicably disreputable, the ADL says that anybody other than a Zionist who uses the word "Zionist" is really using a code-word for Jew. Therefore any criticism of Zionism (including Israel, of course), is irrational and obscene and demonic, not to mention anti-Semitic. Furthermore, any criticism of Israel or the ADL is invariably reported by the ADL as "an attack on Israel [or the ADL] and on all Jews," even though there has been no reference direct or indirect to Jews. And no discussion of ADL vocabulary would be complete without mentioning the word for all seasons- "canard." A canard is a false or unfounded story, and any allegation or report which the ADL does not like is simply dubbed a "canard" and thus disposed of for all time without the need for analysis or discussion. It can be seen that to the ADL language is not so much a means of communication as a means of obfuscation, and that words are used to mislead, to put the truth out of focus, and to avoid confronting real issues. The ADL Attempts to Stifle Freedom of Speech From the earliest years of its history, the ADL has revealed itself to be a self-anointed censor of what should reach the public consciousness in America. One of its main fields of activity is the suppression of views it does not want heard, and, as such, it is the avowed enemy of freedom of speech. The favored method, where it is feasible, is called "quarantine." It simply means that a person or group subject to quarantine is never heard of and never heard from. What he says and does is not reported (except to the ADL), and what he writes is not published. If he is engaged to speak by a club or college or broadcasting station, the ADL sees to it that the speech never takes place. The sponsoring entity is subjected to telephone calls, threatening letters, and visits by delegations of local ADL and B'nai B'rith supporters. If quarantine works, then its victim is rendered, for all practical purposes, voiceless and unable to exert influence except in the most restricted sphere. He is not even attacked. He is a non-person. The concept of quarantine is quite openly discussed in ADL circles as an alternative to actively slandering its enemies. The Washington "Star" of February 10, 1965 reported that Herman Edelsberg, director of the ADL's Washington office, said that members of the "radical right" who could not be persuaded to change their views to conform with the ADL's dogmas should be dealt with by "keeping them in quarantine, until, from tedium, they drop out." No Debate An organization that has been closely linked to the ADL in purpose and in fundraising, the American Jewish Committee, concluded in January, 1960, after a five-year study by Dr. Andhil Fineberg, that an opponent's statements should not be debated because debate would strengthen the opponent's ability to get attention. Those who know him should "privately expose him to opinion molders." Presumably one is exposed if he is called a hatemonger and an anti-Semite in the right private quarters. It may be, however, that some genuine dirt can be dug up, in which case a wider audience is desirable: "... [P]ublicity can be effective where a bigot is concealing facts about himself." (Quoted in Joseph P. Kamp, "The Bigots Behind the Swastika Spree," 1960). A member of the audience at a so-called "Rumor Clinic" presented by Hyman Haves of the ADL's southern California office on February 1, 1950 in Santa Ana, California, reported some of the speaker's remarks in this manner: "Explaining the tactics of the League [ADL], Haves related instances wherein ADL representatives called on editors and radio station owners in cities where opponents were scheduled to speak. he told how these editors and radio station operators were "enlightened and convinced" to give no publicity to the speakers. He described this as the "quarantine or silent treatment" and said it was greatly reducing the audiences of the enemies of the league. "He said boastfully that many ADL opponents "have been cut down" by finding some embarrassing or unpleasant happening in their past and using it against them. Haves said the league found the income of one particular enemy who paid income tax on only $11,000, to be actually $32,000, and said the ADL simply gathered the information and turned it over to the federal government. "You can call these tactics anything you want to," Haves commented. "You can even say smear. We prefer to say education." Silent Treatment Technology A striking instance of the silent treatment technology is found in a letter, dated December 13, 1933, written beneath the letterhead of the Anti-Defamation League, Chicago, Illinois, by Richard E. Gutstadt, director. The letter begins, "To the Publishers of Anglo-Jewish Periodicals," "Gentlemen: "Scribner & Sons have just published a book by Madison Grant entitled "The Conquest of a Continent." It is extremely antagonistic to Jewish interests. Emphasized throughout is the "Nordic superiority" theory, and the utter negation of any "melting pot" philosophy with regard to America. "We are interested in stifling the sale of this book. We believe that this can be best accomplished by refusing to be stampeded into giving it publicity. Every review or public criticism of the book of this character brings it to the attention of many who would otherwise know nothing of it. This results in added sales. The less discussion there is concerning it, the more sales resistance will be created. "We therefore appeal to you to refrain from comment on this book, which will undoubtedly be brought to your attention sooner or later. It is our conviction that a general compliance with this request will sound the warning to other publishing houses against engaging in this type of venture." Iron Curtain Over America In 1955 ADL National Chairman Henry Schultz wrote on ADL stationary to Lt.-Gen. George E. Stratemeyer, complaining that the distinguished general had written a letter endorsing John O. Beaty's book, "Iron Curtain Over America," "and recommending it to Americans in general." Schultz then went on to educate Gen. Stratemeyer about the book's author: "Professor Beaty if no newcomer to the field of anti- Jewish propaganda. As long ago as 1948 he was delivering anti- Semitic lectures in the Southwest." Until the publication of "Iron Curtain Over America," Beaty was "irritating only in a local sense." Now he was nationally known, and something had to be done about it. (Exactly what Prof. Beaty had said that was so objectionable was not revealed, of course, and the ADL did not "propose to burden" the general "at this point with our detailed analysis of the book...") The ADL's muscle man then put on the twist in typical heavyhanded, oblique fashion: "In view of the foregoing, it is our feeling that you may want to consider the advisability of some publication which can assure the American people, who hold you in such high regard, that you repudiate religious hatred, as we know you do, and the use of your name by Professor Beaty..." The renowned Air Force general responded, "I forcefully resent what you have said or implied," and stated, "I do not consider that book anti-Jewish in any sense of the word." He continued: "When the United States of America reaches the point where a citizen cannot read what he desires to read and to recommend such reading to others then we will have reached the status that exists in Soviet Russia...As I interpret your letter, your organization would have the people read only what you think should be read and recommended to others. This I resent as a free American citizen. "I do not understand what you mean by your statement, "we do not propose to burden you at this point, etc." Is this a veiled threat to my free expression and thoughts? If so, this I also resent. "Your letter is the most outrageous communication I have ever received in my life and I intend to give it the widest possible publicity, including my many Jewish friends." A somewhat similar incident occurred in 1959, when Gen. Ulysses S. Grant III caused an article called "Abraham Lincoln and the Rothschilds" to be distributed to members of the Military Order of the Loyal Legion of the United States. Herman Edelsberg of the Washington, D.C. office of the ADL wrote an insulting letter to Gen. Grant on June 19, 1959, claiming that he had lent his name "to a vile anti-Semitic canard" and "the fabrication of a warped mind." Edelsberg dwelt in an uncomplimentary manner upon the alleged history of the article and its distributors, of course, rather than upon the factual content of the piece, which had to do with the role of international bankers in the American Civil War. Edelsberg ordered the general to "speedily and fully repudiate" the publication. Gen. Grant replied indignantly with a defense of the historical accuracy of the article, and pointed out that it was only Edelsberg and the ADL who had given it "the anti-Jewish twist." "What "the international bankers" of Europe did a century ago to help the Confederacy cannot by any reasonable person be considered a reflection on the many, many good Americans who are Jews, and your efforts to make it seem so is difficult to understand." The ADL pressure continued, with great play in the newspapers- which tended, as is usually the case with newspapers, to adopt the ADL's language as their own and to describe the article flatly as "anti-Semitic." There was much debate over whether the general had "apologized," but the apology was also an ADL fantasy, and the general never abandoned his guns. Congressman Gets Treatment Congressman John G. Schmitz of California received the same kind of treatment in the summer of 1972, after he had written an introduction and endorsement to "None Dare Call It Conspiracy," by Gary Allen. Mr. Allen, like the author of Gen. Grant's article, had spoken of "international bankers." Harvey Schechter of the ADL sent a letter to Congressman Schmitz. "We were distressed to read your introduction to and endorsement of "None Dare Call It Conspiracy" by Gary Allen, and we hereby call upon you to withdraw your endorsement and repudiate this anti-Semitic propaganda book." Congressman Schmitz published the ADL letter along with his own reply in the "Congressional Record" of June 19, 1972. He wrote to Schechter that Schechter's attack on him because of "None Dare Call It Conspiracy" was "one of the most remarkable confirmations of the book's thesis that I have seen," in that Gary Allen had stated that the ADL was used "as an instrument to try to convince everyone that any mention of the Rothschilds or their allies is an attack on all Jews." Quoting from the book, Congressman Schmitz continued: "Any individual book exploring this subject is immediately attacked by hundreds of ADL committees all over the country. The ADL has never let truth or logic interfere with its highly professional smear jobs. When no evidence is apparent, the ADL, which staunchly opposed so-called 'McCarthyism,' accuses people of being 'latent anti-Semites'." "There is not a word in Gary Allen's book which could possibly be construed by any reasonable man as an attack on any religious faith." Among its other efforts on behalf of American democracy, the ADL attempted to get the Federal Communications Commission to prevent telephone companies from permitting the purveyors of certain ideas from using their recorded message services. The group the ADL had specifically in mind had denounced the Peace Corps and (according to the ADL) called up "lurid visions of a 'communist conspiracy' lurking behind" various groups, including (surprise!) the ADL. (Washington "Post," Sept. 9, 1965.) A few years later the Supreme Court eventually thwarted a prolonged ADL effort to make the FCC take away the license of a radio station which had broadcast an "appeal to prejudice." The ADL had refused a proffered opportunity to broadcast a reply: "A reply, said attorneys for the Jewish service organization, only focuses more attention upon a racial or religious slur, lending it more dignity." The same policy is no doubt useful if one just can't think of a good answer. This is Liberty Lobby The longest and most intense campaign waged by the ADL against a specific group in many years is its continuing war to have the radio program, "This is Liberty Lobby," removed from the airwaves. The ADL's enmity to Liberty Lobby stemmed originally from its general enmity to all nationalist, "rightist" elements in America. The ever-increasing importance of Israel in the ADL program, running up against Liberty Lobby's outspoken advocacy of United States neutrality in the Middle East, as elsewhere abroad, precipitated the ADL "counteraction," as the instigators euphemistically called it. The entire matter is documented by materials, such as internal ADL letters and memoranda, uncovered during a subsequent lawsuit brought by Liberty Lobby. The whole effort was carefully planned, organized, and coordinated at the ADL's national headquarters in New York. Inquiries by Israeli officials in the United States played an important, and perhaps the leading role, in getting the counteraction underway. Not surprisingly, some of the Israeli-ADL correspondence is missing from the materials the ADL was forced to produce during the Liberty Lobby lawsuit, and the one letter that got through was reproduced so poorly that most of it is illegible. It is from the ADL, Boston, to the Israeli Consulate in Boston, and is dated December 24, 1973. The letter begins: "I appreciate your calling my attention to Liberty Lobby broadcast on [station call letters illegible], Boston." The letter continues for two more paragraphs, almost entirely illegible, beginning with the words, "I believe that you are aware of the fact that Liberty Lobby is..." The words "editorial" and "bumper stickers" appear, giving clues of the general trend of the discussion. Copies of the letter were sent to at least eight individuals, most or all of them ADL professional staff. Form Letters Soon radio stations began receiving phone calls and letters of complaint from local people, most of whom (the radio station personnel reported) had apparently never heard the Liberty Lobby program. The letters were almost always parrot renditions of language from ADL "kits" mailed out from New York to regional offices. Packets of "information" about Liberty Lobby were sent to radio stations, and there was an attempt to create the impression that numerous spontaneous complaints were being received about the program by the ADL offices. Advertisers susceptible to ADL and B'nai B'rith influence threatened to withdraw, and in some cases actually did withdraw, their business from stations which would not cancel the Liberty Lobby broadcasts. Meanwhile, as is easily proved by a review of the scripts that were used, there was nothing even remotely anti-Semitic or similarly objectionable in the "This is Liberty Lobby" broadcasts, although there were occasionally comments on Israel. In a letter of December 3, 1973, the chairman of a western broadcasting company wrote to Sheldon Steinhauser of ADL's Denver office referring to complaints about the Liberty Lobby program: "I must, however, in all candor say that upon listening to these programs I have never heard anything which could be classified as an attack upon the Jewish faith or our citizens of that national origin. "It is a rather abrasive attack upon foreign policy in the Near East. It is not, in my opinion, at all different from any other highly controversial opinion, hence we have no intention of censoring it." Courageous Broadcaster On January 16, 1975, an attorney from the Washington, D.C. law firm of Koteen & Burt, representing station WVOX, New Rochelle, New York, wrote to one Donald Flamm, who passed the letter on to the ADL. "Particularly over the course of the last year or so, a great deal of pressure has been brought to bear upon WVOX...by various people and organizations in an attempt to force it to drop "Liberty Lobby"...During the course of various inquiries about this program, I have reviewed numerous scripts to determine, among other things, whether it is being used as a vehicle for attacking various people and groups and whether, therefore, various requirements of the Federal Communications Commission's Fairness Doctrine come into play. In no instance that has come to my attention have I found anything which is even superficially anti-Semitic." The attorney went on to say that a New York "Times" reporter who had done a story on the program had found nothing anti-Semitic in it, and that the station president, Bill O'Shaughnessy, "has become satisfied that those who actually bother to listen to the program have not found it to be anti- Semitic." The lawyer stated that the American Civil Liberties Union believed that attempts to remove the program from the air "represent a classic example of attempts to suppress freedom of speech." All broadcasters were not as courageous as O'Shaughnessy, who refused to buckle even though he was favored with menacing letters from ADL general counsel Arnold Forster personally. According to an ADL memorandum, Howard Warshaw, president of Universal Broadcasting Company, New York, after having met with ADL staff and having been warned by them that "This is Liberty Lobby" was "anti-Semitic," ordered the general manager of WTHE (Mineola, Long Island) to listen to all Liberty Lobby programs in advance and to discuss any "questionable" material with him. If any tape contained "the kind of anti-Semitic material contained in the specimens we reviewed" (i.e. criticisms of Israel and of potential U.S. involvement in a Middle East war) they would be pre-empted, or an older tape played. The memo, from Mel Cooperman to Harry Rosenkranz, January 10, 1974, concluded: "By the way, WTHE has carried, and will continue to carry every ADL "Report from Israel" program we send them, as they have for six years." On April 23, 1974, the ADL's Monroe Schlactus wrote to ADL's "director of domestic fact-finding," Irwin Suall, that he had been told that Howard Warshaw of Long Island "has begun to be most cooperative in killing the tapes even before we express concern." It happened that Warshaw also owned station KUXL in Schlactus' Minnesota territory: "I would imagine that through Mel's contact with Warshaw, we may be able to preview all the Liberty Lobby tapes before their airing." A memorandum from Isadore Zack to Herman Brown, with copies to various ADL higher-ups, spread the following good news: "I understand from Sherm Keller of WRYT-Boston that his boss, Ken Carter, plans to audition the Liberty Lobby tapes before putting them on the air and will not use any program that mentions Israel in a derogatory way. I am alerting our monitors to check this out." Liberty Lobby Makes Comeback The massive ADL "counteraction" (fully documented in official documents procured through legal process) did result by 1975 in the loss of many stations and the cancellation by the Mutual Network of its contract with Liberty Lobby to carry the program. This reduced the total number of stations to 106. However, in spite of continuing ADL pressure, today (June, 1981) the program is carried on 470 stations, most of them as a free public service. The program's point of view today is identical to what it was in 1975, which should say something about the increasing public acceptance of Liberty Lobby's pro-American outlook. In Liberty Lobby's files there is also documentary evidence that ADL agents have contacted advertisers in order to prevent them from placing ads in Liberty Lobby publications, and that ADL agents seek out contributors to Liberty Lobby and pay visits to their homes. Even advertising agencies are put on the griddle: "For the record, I have received information that there is an advertising agency in Los Angeles which is handling the placing of Liberty Lobby's radio program on radio stations nationally...I have asked Harvey Schechter to undertake an investigation of this agency. -Memorandum from Irwin Suall (director of ADL's "Domestic Fact-finding Department") to Justin Finger, February 14, 1974. "Talent" is not immune from persecution, either: The same Harvey Schechter (of the ADL's Los Angeles regional office) who was to investigate Liberty Lobby's advertising agency was also hot on the trail of the famous announcer who introduced Liberty Lobby's radio programs. Schechter wrote to Maxwell Greenberg on July 30, 1974: "I for one, am distressed at the fact that Liberty Lobby broadcasts begin with an opening comment by Harry von Zell...In view of his key position with Home Savings and Loan and the gutter anti-Semitism of the Liberty Lobby, I would like to suggest that a letter from you to him about this might further stimulate him to take action to deny Liberty Lobby the use of his voice." In an unrelated incident, a radio announcer named Allan E. Augustine was fired by WOKY, Milwaukee, after the ADL complained that Augustine had acted irresponsibly in interviewing two nazis on his talk show. Union Saves Pilot's Job A final example of the ADL's tactics shows them at their most vile. On April 3, 1978, Irwin Suall wrote to the management of Trans World Airlines (TWA): "I'm writing at the suggestion of Arnold Forster, who happens to be abroad at present, concerning Mr. ----, a TWA pilot who has managed to antagonize a large number of people in New Jersey." The letter went on to accuse the TWA pilot of writing letters-to-the-editor which were critical of "Jews, Zionism and Israel." (In actual fact, the pilot had never criticized Jews. He had, however, gone so far as to put an ad in a newspaper in which he placed, according to Suall, "the blame for the deaths in the March 11th PLO raid on the Israelis.") "It so happens that a number of people apparently know that --- is a TWA pilot..., ---'s propaganda activities are apparently linked in their minds with TWA. "Mr. Foster felt that you would want to be informed about this matter and asked me, just before he left, to share the information with you and to convey to you his most cordial regards, I would be pleased to hear from you." At last report the pilot still has his job, although thanks more to his union and the Railroad Labor Act than to his employer, Cases of this kind come to the light of day only rarely; many a man has probably been dismissed at the behest of the ADL without ever knowing the real cause. Represents A Foreign Nation No regular reader of the "ADL Bulletin" and other ADL publications and productions can doubt that the ADL's primary concern is the artificial nation of Israel. The welfare of Israel is put above all else, certainly including the United States. Visits to the United States by Israeli generals and politicians are given front-page coverage in such reverential tones as are reserved by Catholic newspapers for visits of the pope. The pronouncements of Israeli leaders are published with obbligatos of adulation- except for a couple of times when Prime Minister Menachem Begin went so far in his cheerleading for Jewish influence in the U.S., and in his open calls for the Jewish lobby to get what Israel wanted, that the ADL feared people would realize that he was proving what the "anti-Semites" had been saying all along. The ADL tries to put the best appearances on everything Israel does, while the United States is judged as good or bad depending on the extent of its support for Israel. The same goes for other countries: The Soviet Union was enormously popular with Zionists until it interfered with emigration of Soviet Jews to Israel. The Soviet Union then became a wicked and anti-Semitic country, and the U.S. was expected to dump ice on its dtente with the Soviets and prune its foreign policy accordingly. And, of course, the most glaring example of distortion of American policy for Israel's benefit appears in the costly hostility of the United States toward the Arab countries- a policy totally opposed to America's true interests and existing entirely because of Israel's long-lasting war with its neighbors. Israel the Only Issue There is one and only issue as far as the ADL is concerned - Israel. If Israel tries to sink a ship of the United States Navy and murders 34 Americans in the process, the ADL prides itself on covering up the facts and explaining them away, while on the other hand anybody who ever killed an Israeli (even though his country is at war with Israel) is a despicable terrorist and bloodthirsty outlaw. A careful distinction is made between those who are able to kill large numbers of civilians from airplanes (American supplied airplanes) and those who can afford only to kill smaller numbers on foot. The ADL never tires of telling us, and having us told, that because the population of the Jewish state is made up of an exceptional people unceasingly persecuted due to some ineradicable flaw in all non-Jews, the Israelis are exempt from the rules of human behavior and have a special license to steal other people's real estate, to kidnap anywhere in the world, to torture, to kill, to lie, to falsely accuse, and to interfere at will in the politics and social development of other countries. To justify and further the programs and aims of Israel is the primary mission of the ADL. The organization is, of course, at one with the B'nai B'rith, with its large and highly manageable and influential system of professional lodges. Especially significant are those lodges made up of highly placed people in the advertising, publishing, entertainment, and news fields. It works in alliance with other groups that comprise the Israel lobby- such as the American Jewish Committee, whose Washington representative, Hyman Bookbinder, boasted in a public speech of the speed with which he had been able to assemble on the Capitol steps a display of American congressmen and senators in support of an Israeli government demand. Sophisticated Intimidation As contrasted to the Jewish Defense League, which uses physical intimidation and overt violence while literally parading the Israeli flag within this country, the ADL deals primarily in propaganda and moral, political, and financial intimidation. It instigates, coordinates, places, and often writes, on behalf of Israel the avalanche of slanted news stories, editorials, magazine articles, television programs, cartoons, politicians' speeches, entries in the "Congressional Record," letters, and even motion pictures and novels, which- particularly at the time of some Israeli crisis or extensive Israeli demand on American leaders and taxpayers- smothers the United States. Once a rock has been started rolling downhill, one does not have to keep prodding it or the others it picks up along the way: People know what is expected of them. If they do not, they will be "sensitized," or perhaps even tenderized. Event he standup comic knows that to defy the party line would be professional suicide. Toward the end of the 1960's the ADL and its cohorts accuse Poland of "anti-Semitic" acts, (See, for example, entry by the ADL's congressman, Joshua Eilberg, in the July 16, 1968 "Congressional Record") and lo, within days the insulting "Polish joke" was born, pounding home month after month the alleged stupidity of the Polish people who up to then had been treated as heroic defenders of freedom. In such ways American attitudes are molded to the benefit of Israel and to the detriment of any group on Israel's hit list. The inconvenient fact that what helps Israel usually hurts the United States is handled by the ADL and similar organizations by the technique, proof of the intent of which is available in numerous publicly distributed recordings of their meetings, of trying to make Israeli interests appear identical to the interests of the United States and attractive to the American people. "We are a minority too small to have our desired effect without the help of many others," goes the reasoning. "we must therefore make other people identify our interests with theirs, and we must create the illusion that what is good for us is good for America." By such sleight of hand, the tiger is led by the monkey, and a great and powerful nation is made to sacrifice its own welfare for the sake which has nothing to offer in return except the probability of involvement in nuclear war. Foreign Agents Registration Act The Foreign Agents Registration Act, Title 22 U.S. Code ¤611 et seq., provides criminal penalties for failure of propagandists and others active in this country on behalf of foreigners to file highly detailed registration statements with the Attorney General, to file copies of all political propaganda (however disguised or sugar-coated), and to label all such propaganda conspicuously, and to keep and reveal records of their activities. "Political propaganda" is defined by the act to include any "communication or expression by any person...which is reasonably adapted to, or which the person disseminating the same believes will, or which he intends to, prevail upon, indoctrinate, induce, or in any other way influence a recipient or any section of the public within the United States with reference to the political or public interests, policies, or relations of a government of a foreign country or a foreign political party or with reference to the foreign policies of the United States..."¤611(j). The same rules apply to "political activities" which in any way "influence any agency or official of the public within the United States with reference to formulating, adopting, or changing the domestic or foreign policies of the United States or with reference to the political or public interests, policies, or relations of a government of a foreign country or a foreign political party" ¤611 (o). The Foreign Agents Registration Act is designed to include anyone "who directly or through any other person" carries on such activities and who acts as an agent, representative or "in any other capacity" at the order, request, or under the direction or control, or under the direct or indirect supervision, direction, control, or subsidization of a foreign principal ¤611(b). 'There is absolutely no doubt that the ADL is operating in criminal violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act; that its foreign principals include the government of Israel and its subdivisions, numerous Israeli Zionist groups such as the World Zionist Organization and the Jewish Agency and their fundraising branches within the United States; and that the ADL works in complicity with large numbers of equally guilty parties in the American communication media and the political arena.' It is the job of the U.S. Department of Justice to enforce the Foreign Agents Registration Act, (*) but while the department has exerted itself ordering American Protestant ministers to register as foreign agents because they arranged preaching and a few other public appearances for some clergymen of the Christian League of Southern Africa, ('Washington Weekly', Oct. 5, 1978) it has been curiously paralyzed when it comes to pursuing the ADL and its huge network of coordinated Israeli agents. (*) [Title 50, ¤851-858 contains additional provisions for registration of foreign agents with the Attorney General. These sections are applicable to "every person who has knowledge of" espionage, tactics or terrorism of "a government of a foreign country..." it stretches the imagination to assume that ADL officers are not fully aware of the activities of the terrorist organization known as the Jewish Defense League, an open agent of Israel which provocatively flies the Israeli flag during its demonstrations against "enemies of Israel." No one can miss the perfect orchestration of ADL and JDL activities. It is commonly believed that both agencies are manipulated by the efficient Israeli espionage and terrorist are, the Mossad.] Easy To Document Documentation of the ADL's actions as an agent of Israel is neither rare nor difficult to come by. Indeed, it is almost impossible to encompass its scope in a paper of this length. The examples that follow are a fair selection from among thousands. First, there is no question that Israel, which could never have existed financially, militarily, or otherwise without the constant support of the United States, wishes to exert all possible influence on this country and to draw all possible sustenance from it, while preventing any aid or support by the United States going to countries on Israel's enemies list, and in particular to the Arab countries from which Israel hacked out its territory. The World Zionist Organization and the Jewish Agency are specifically designed to be the Israeli government's overseas arms. Even though purposely not made branches of the government, the status, function, and authority of the WZO and the Jewish Agency are set forth in Israeli law. Among their goals are to organize Jewish communities outside Israel to serve Zionist purposes, to spread propaganda, to see that money is collected (almost always to tax-exempt "charitable" organizations) and channeled to Israel, to encourage immigration into Israel, and to influence various governments to formulate foreign policy to pass laws which favor Israel. Most of the Israeli aims in the United States are spearheaded by the ADL, with other Zionist-oriented groups such as the American Jewish Committee playing important roles. The WZO and the Jewish Agency keep a low profile, while the ADL poses as an American organization serving American Jewish aims, though in reality honing its activities to serve Israel on every point. When Arab countries organized a boycott of Israel, the ADL openly led the fight to have anti-boycott legislation passed in the U.S., took measures to see that American businesses were trading with Israel under the anti-boycott laws, and even acted on Israel's behalf as regarded Japan's cooperation with the Arab boycott. "The Anti-Defamation League, a Jewish organization, has long been bothered by the Japanese reaction to the boycott. For years, the organization has been trying on its own to persuade the Japanese to change their policy. Now, evidently wearying of these efforts, Anti-Defamation League officials are seeking the aid of American corporations." -The Wall Street Journal, May 13, 1968 On March 4, 1975, the New York Times reported that: "The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith has written to President Ford reporting what it calls a concerted campaign among shipping companies, aided and abetted by American commercial banks unlawfully to comply with the Arab boycott regulations against the state of Israel." Since 1966, the ADL has produced a radio program called "Dateline Israel," some 26 new programs each year, broadcast over hundreds of stations, which consists entirely of Israeli propaganda. Prominent in the origins and production of "Dateline Israel" was ADL general counsel Arnold Forster, who was reported in the May, 1974 "ADL Bulletin" to have been to Israel more than 50 times. Forster Writes Letters Forster, among his other achievements on behalf of a foreign state, wrote seemingly innumerable letters (always published, of course) to the editors of major newspapers on subjects having exclusively to do with Israel and the protection or furtherance of Israeli interest. Every public criticism of Israel was met with a thundering defense. Every Israeli policy was dolled up as a glamorous boon to American interests. every hint of cooperation with Arab countries by the U.S. was depicted as a dark collaboration with the forces of evil. In 1973 the ADL took out full-page newspaper advertisements whose message was that Arab oil-producing countries were greedy and that any change in the Mideast policy of the United States that might please the Arabs would not improve the American oil situation. The ads were designed to influence public opinion to ignore the obvious- that the oil cut-off by the Arabs had been a direct response to the United States mindlessly and illogically supporting Israel in an aggressive war against Arab countries. "Maariv," published in Tel Aviv, Israel, reported (Jan 14, 1969) that the ADL in the United States had made a study of Arab "propaganda" against Israel, and had concluded that the center of export of such propaganda to America was Beirut, Lebanon. Arnold Forster was in charge of the ADL study. "Mr. Foster [sic], who is now in Israel as one of the representatives of the Jewish organizations to the conference called by the prime minister, said that the Arabs have discovered the best way to lie is from a distance." For the ADL, there is obviously one overriding issue- Israel - and old allies who don't agree become 'persona non grata'. ADL Chairman Kenneth Bialkin, in a New York "Times" item (Aug. 19, 1979), said that "some black leaders have become persuaded by new left propaganda and have taken up with the worst of pro-Arab, anti-Israeli elements." Bailkin called such blacks "troublemakers." Bigoted Extremists A couple of years earlier, when black American workers wanted to comply with the Arab boycott of Israel, the ADL said that a coalition, including blacks who said they would be the first to lose their jobs if Arabs withdrew their business, involved "bigoted extremists" linked to "anti-Semitism" - a good example of name-calling when logic would lose the day. When the executive committee of the B'nai B'rith International Council met in 1960, the president concluded: "Positive action by the Jewish communities should be taken to combat Arab League propaganda," and " a program of counter- action to deal with the Arab League should be considered." ("Summary-Minutes, B'nai B'rith International Council, Executive Committee Meeting January 26-27, 1960, Amsterdam, Netherlands.") The B'nai B'rith, swearing that it is strictly a religious, charitable, and welfare organization, has taken an active role in getting funds from Germany as compensation or reparation to Jews who claimed to have been unjustly damaged by Hitler's government. A revealing insight into the procedure is offered by a B'nai B'rith "Memorandum to Members of the Board of Governors from Maurice Bisguer" (Feb. 17, 1960): "In accordance with the claims agreement resulting from West German B'nai B'rith negotiations, the predominant amount of funds is to be reserved for Israel." A typical issue of the "ADL Bulletin" would appear to have been conceived and composed in an Israeli information office. The June, 1980 issue, for example, which happens to contain an uncomplimentary article about Liberty Lobby, begins with an article by former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger (who is pictured receiving an award form the ADL) entitled "The Middle East." With subheads such as "No Negotiations with PLO," it contains nothing even remotely displeasing to Israel, and lest we miss its real point, the following words are emphasized by being printed in a shaded rectangle: "While in office and after, I never believed and I do not believe now that the solution to the West Bank problem can be the creation of a Palestinian state." Oil Is Menace Inside the front cover of the same issue is a comment by ADL national director, Nathan Perlmutter. Leading off with the news that anti-Semitism, "as we have customarily measured it," has been declining, he says that the greatest danger "to us" is oil because nations which want oil from the Arabs are snuggling up to the PLO, and, "in the hapless balance is Israel." There follows a long, illustrated article on a trip to Israel by M. S. Forbes, editor-in-chief of "Forbes" business magazine, a trip which had been suggested and arranged by the ADL. "He went at the suggestion of Maxwell E. Greenberg, the Anti-Defamation League's national chairman, and Abraham H. Foxman, its associate national director, following a dispute between the ADL and "Forbes" editors over rejection of a league ad on peace in the Middle East which had been submitted for the "Forbes" annual Arabic Middle East edition. ADL felt the ad had been rejected because the magazine feared offending the Arabs..." So the ADL officers, suggesting "that a Forbes trip to Israel was long overdue," met Mr. Forbes in that Middles Eastern nation, introduced him to the right people in government, the military, and business, and showed him the country. Mr. Forbes, of course, loved Israel and the Israeli leaders, on whom he bestowed such accolades as "sharp, incisive," "perceptive, candid, with good judgments," "able, impressive" and "Oh, fabulous." Mr. Forbes likened America to Israel and had nasty things to say about the PLO. The next article in the June 1980 "ADL Bulletin" was entitled "PLO/Khomeini Connection." It dealt with the cordial relations between the PLO and the ever-unpopular ayatollah, and concluded that both "share the goal of destroying Israel," and that "to give them power is to whet their appetites, increasing their lust for destruction." (Shades of Adolf.) Vanessa Redgrave's Trouble The actress Vanessa Redrave narrated a film called "The Palestinian," which, although few who criticized it has actually seen it, outraged the ADL because it was reportedly anti-Israel and contained an interview with the head of the PLO. There were vigorous efforts to prevent the documentary from being seen in the U.S., and to ruin Vanessa Redgrave's acting career. Arnold Forster said on behalf of the ADL that to advocate the overthrow of Israel was "the ultimate anti-Semitism." Miss Redgrave commented: "The American public cherishes its right to information and to form its own opinions. It should not be abrogated into the hands of a minority of fanatical Zionists who want to destroy the Palestine Liberation Organizations and lie about its aims." - Los Angeles Times, January 18, 1978 In a pitch letter to ADL supporters on November 10, 1975, Dore Schary listed as examples of the ADL's good work: Suing the U.S. to thwart the Arab boycott of Israel, exposing the collusion of other groups with the Arab boycott of Israel, and persuading the Gulf Oil Company to repudiate and publicly declare that it will never again repeat a contribution to "the Arab propaganda campaign" against Israel. Next on the agenda: "The recent vote in the United Nations attacking Zionism as 'racism'..." When President Jimmy Carter compared the Palestinian movement (to return to the farms and homes that had been taken by Israel) to the U.S. civil rights cause, spokesmen for the ADL called the comparison "insulting," and "frightening." Arnold Forster exercised his gift for meaningless semantic smokescreening by calling the PLO "False revolutionaries" and "murderers" (Washington "Post," Aug. 3. 1979). On January 9, 1981, the ADL's headquarters publicly distributed, under the label, "News," a report called "World-Views and Middle East Policy," by Kenneth Jacobsen, which compared the probable Middle East policy of the incoming Reagan administration. The entire discussion centers on the relative benefits to Israel which would result from the different policies. Carter, the report said, had seen Third-World nations (read Arabs) as essentially neutral, and to be won over through "friendly" approaches, which meant that the "U.S. would downplay Israel as a strategic interest, would see the Palestinian issue as the central problem in the Middle East, and would make periodic overtures to the PLO." (Not good.) Reagan, on the other hand, would bring with him those who would see both the Soviet threat and an Arab oil threat. (Good.) By convoluted and illogical arguments, Jacobsen comes to the conclusion that the U.S. has shown "unnecessary obsequiousness to the Arab world," and that the best way for America to meet the oil problem is to join more closely with Israel in its hostility to the Arab nations. 'With this new approach, there will be no hesitancy to support Israel as clearly America's most reliable ally and to identify Israel as a strategic asset to the U.S.' Many more examples could be cited to prove that the ADL, day after day, year after year, works within the United States as an agent in the service of a foreign nation. Not only are such political activities a violation of the Foreign Agents' Registration Act, but also disqualify the ADL from its tax-exempt status. Conclusion A suffocating atmosphere of threat, extortion, blackmail, character assassination, and falsehood hangs over the activities of the ADL. It is an atmosphere deliberately poisonous of freedom hangs over the activities of the ADL. It is an atmosphere deliberately poisonous of freedom of speech and thought, designedly stifling of the open exchange of ideas, and contrary to the provisions of the Constitution and to the most important considerations that motivated the American revolutionaries to create a new and independent nation in the first place. The ADL is alien in concept and subversive in operation. It is unethical, un-American and illegal. It operates as a thought police, smearbund, and intimidation mafia using traditional American institutions and gullible citizens to further the foreign policy aims of a foreign nation and the political power of political Zionism and individual Zionists. Its "chutzpah" cannot be excused, nor can the actions or inaction of Americans who know of its outrages but, because of fear, fail to fight them. Nothing can be more important today than to expose and contain this evil force. Nothing less than the safety of all Americans is at stake today as irresponsible Zionists play Russian roulette with a world nuclear holocaust. ----- ****************************************************************************** This file is availible for download at Digital Freedom BBS Tons of Text, Sound and Picture files also availible. 100% Free - Access on first call DIGITAL FREEDOM BBS NODE 1 (416) 462-3327 28.8 v.34 NODE 2 (416) 465-4767 14.4 v.32 -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Mon Jul 3 06:32:13 PDT 1995 Article: 69189 of alt.conspiracy Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!vanbc.wimsey.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: THE ANTI-DEFIMATION LEAGUE EXPOSED: Part 4 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 13:22:48 GMT Lines: 84 "We believe that freedom of speech should be blocked, anyone who says anything negative about jews or anything else should be blocked, End Freedom of speech, freedom of speech should only be a privilege, not a right" -spoken from Isaac Rosen (Jew) Here is a press release from the Anti-Defamation League. I downloaded the press release from the U.S. Newswire BBS in Maryland at (410) 363-0834. I do not work for the ADL. Anti-Semitism Detoured on the Information Superhighway To: National Desk Contact: Myrna Shinbaum, 212-490-2525 ext. 7747 or Mary Vasiliades, 212-490-2525 ext. 7751, both of the Anti-Defamation League NEW YORK, Feb. 24 -- Anti-Semitic messages no longer have a free ride on Prodigy's information superhighway, the company has assured the Anti-Defamation League (ADL). Jeffrey P. Sinensky, director of the league's Civil Rights Division, recently lodged a complaint with the computer online service regarding two messages on Prodigy bulletin boards which charged that ADL and Jews in general were responsible for the shootout at the Waco compound of the Branch Davidians, as well as the assassination of President Kennedy. Sinensky was delighted when he received a prompt response from Prodigy president, Ross Slatzer, which said in part: "You'll be pleased to know that the individual was reported to us by our members. In addition to removing the note, the individual was warned and subsequently suspended from using the boards. Any further infractions will result in immediate account termination." ADL focused national attention in 1991 on the growing use of online bulletin boards by Holocaust deniers and bigots. After an exchange of letters between ADL and Prodigy and a barrage of publicity, the firm amplified its guidelines concerning bulletin board messages to include blatant expressions of bigotry, racism and hate in its definition of what is "grossly repugnant." Sinensky said, "We are very pleased with the company's sensitivity and good judgement in implementing and enforcing their prohibition of statements that are grossly repugnant to community standards." He said ADL has received considerable fewer complaints regarding bigoted messages on Prodigy bulletin boards since the firm clarified its guidelines. The Anti-Defamation League, founded in 1913, is the world's leading organization fighting anti-Semitism through programs and services that counteract hatred, prejudice and bigotry. -- "We don't like what people are saying about us (jews) so we will do everything in our power to shut them up, and we have the power to do it." - Isaac Rosen The ADL (Anti-Defamation League) a jewish/liberal run organization is not allowing any thoughts or speech that does not support their political agenda. The saddest part of it all is that the sheep masses in our society follow blindly. ****************************************************************************** This file is availible for download at Digital Freedom BBS Tons of Text, Sound and Picture files also availible. 100% Free - Access on first call DIGITAL FREEDOM BBS NODE 1 (416) 462-3327 28.8 v.34 NODE 2 (416) 465-4767 14.4 v.32 -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Mon Jul 3 06:32:17 PDT 1995 Article: 69191 of alt.conspiracy Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!vanbc.wimsey.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: THE ANTI-DEFIMATION LEAGUE EXPOSED: Part 5 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 13:23:36 GMT Lines: 60 ADL ACCEPTS FINE AND INJUNCTION IN SAN FRANCISCO CASE The District Attorney of San Francisco, the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (ADL) and ADL spy Roy Bullock have entered into an agreement to settle the criminal case against the ADL and Roy Bullock. Under the terms of the agreement, ADL will pay a $75,000 fine to the City of San Francisco and will not in the future knowingly receive confidential governmental information which it is illegal for government officials to provide. Receipt of such information was among the allegedly illegal acts that brought ADL spying activity to the attention of the prosecutors. The permanent injunction barring ADL from receiving this information applies only to information from state and local government officials in California. In return, the San Francisco D.A. agreed not to pursue criminal charges against the ADL and ADL spy Roy Bullock. The settlement agreement recites that the San Francisco D.A. believes that on multiple occasions within the past four years, ADL and Bullock received non-public government information from non-public documents the dissemination or possession of which is illegal. According to the D.A., this would violate a provision of the California Business and Professions Code. ADL and Bullock deny the charges. Victims of the ADL spy network declared that the agreement does not go far enough. For example, the agreement includes no admission of wrongdoing by ADL, no criminal sanctions, and no disclosure to the victims of the allegedly illegal spying of the information about victims that was exchanged between ADL and the police. "The spy case is far from over for the ADL," said activist Gregory T. Nojeim. ADL still faces two civil lawsuits, one for invasion of privacy in California, and a federal civil rights lawsuit brought by twelve groups and seven individuals. "We are determined to see that justice is done, and that the rights of the victims are vindicated," Nojeim said. ****************************************************************************** This file is availible for download at Digital Freedom BBS Tons of Text, Sound and Picture files also availible. 100% Free - Access on first call DIGITAL FREEDOM BBS NODE 1 (416) 462-3327 28.8 v.34 NODE 2 (416) 465-4767 14.4 v.32 -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Mon Jul 3 09:58:03 PDT 1995 Article: 6302 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!winternet.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: New book on Holocaust fighter ERNST ZUNDEL Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada References: Zundel, Holocaust, Fraud Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 08:10:30 GMT Lines: 66 Here it is, the book you've been waiting for that summarizes the entire career of the most persecuted book publisher in the world, from his childhood to his latest activism, German-Canadian revisionist Ernst Zundel. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ernst Zundel's name came to the fore of the world stage in 1985 when the government of Canada out him on criminal trial for publishing the book, DID SIX MILLION REALLY DIE? 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SAMISDAT PUBLISHING, 206 Carlton St. Toronto, Ontario M4A 2L1, CANADA or Call (416) 922-9850 HURRY ONLY A LIMITED SUPPLY AVAILIBLE!!!!! Print this out and send it in. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please send me _______ copies of the expanded edition of the GREAT HOLOCAUST TRIAL @ $20.00 (Canadian) plus $4.00 for shipping and packaging for the first book. Add an additional $4.00 shipping per book for Air Mail. TOTAL FOR SHIPPING ______________ TOTAL ENCLOSED ______________ NAME _________________________________ ADDRESS ___________________________________ CITY _______________________ STATE/PROVINCE _____________________________ ZIP/POSTAL CODE ____________________________ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Give 4-6 weeks for delivery. Offer only good while supplies last -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Mon Jul 3 21:57:51 PDT 1995 Article: 65094 of alt.activism Newsgroups: alt.activism Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!vanbc.wimsey.com!news.mindlink.net!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!equalizer!timbuk.cray.com!news3.mr.net!mr.net!winternet.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: Canada's most controversial BBS now with INTERNET access Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada References: Digital Freedom, BBS Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:58:59 GMT Lines: 50 [duplicated bbs ad deleted] -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Tue Jul 4 19:08:53 PDT 1995 Article: 60283 of can.politics Newsgroups: can.politics Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!vanbc.wimsey.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: New books on ERNST ZUNDEL, Holocaust Fighter Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 11:50:06 GMT Lines: 66 Here it is, the book you've been waiting for that summarizes the entire career of the most persecuted book publisher in the world, from his childhood to his latest activism, German-Canadian revisionist Ernst Zundel. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ernst Zundel's name came to the fore of the world stage in 1985 when the government of Canada out him on criminal trial for publishing the book, DID SIX MILLION REALLY DIE? 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SAMISDAT PUBLISHING, 206 Carlton St. Toronto, Ontario M4A 2L1, CANADA or Call (416) 922-9850 HURRY ONLY A LIMITED SUPPLY AVAILIBLE!!!!! Print this out and send it in. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please send me _______ copies of the expanded edition of the GREAT HOLOCAUST TRIAL @ $20.00 (Canadian) plus $4.00 for shipping and packaging for the first book. Add an additional $4.00 shipping per book for Air Mail. TOTAL FOR SHIPPING ______________ TOTAL ENCLOSED ______________ NAME _________________________________ ADDRESS ___________________________________ CITY _______________________ STATE/PROVINCE _____________________________ ZIP/POSTAL CODE ____________________________ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Give 4-6 weeks for delivery. Offer only good while supplies last -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Tue Jul 4 19:08:55 PDT 1995 Article: 60284 of can.politics Newsgroups: can.politics Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!unixg.ubc.ca!vanbc.wimsey.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: CANADA'S MOST CONTROVERSIAL BBS - 100% FREE Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 11:51:16 GMT Lines: 48 [duplicated bbs ad deleted] -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Thu Jul 6 20:07:16 PDT 1995 Article: 6365 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!winternet.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: Re: Comrade Zundel Needs your Help Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada References: <3sta68$iv5@ionews.io.org> <3sph49$cip@clam.rutgers.edu> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 21:34:42 GMT Lines: 39 In a previous article, lzaird@io.org () says: >In article <3sph49$cip@clam.rutgers.edu>, >Marcus wrote: >>Ernst Zundel has a Web site. The address is: >> http://www.kaiwan.com/~greg.ihr/zundel > >Allright! I'll be right back, I've gotta go take a look at this! > >>Comrade Zundel needs donations, especially after the arson > >Ahahahahahha! The scam continues, I can't get enough of this... You are such an Idiot. Since your not in the White Power movement you cannot understand that we as Racialists help each other out. You might call that a scam, we call it brotherhood! >>attack when he is having to rebuild his home and headquarters, >>purchase a new high-speed photocopier, and replace office >>furniture, files and books. Give if you can, even the >>smallest amounts add up and help, otherwise call or write >>with moral support. It is reassuring to be told that what >>one is doing is not futile. > >That's right folks, send him money, fat little bastard doesn't work for >a living so he can't afford to buy it himself... Zundel does not live off the government. He publishes books, radio shows, etc etc. He has made it his life's work to bring truth in history to the world. What is your claim to fame? Or are you just some punk kid with an attitude! He puts his life on the line and the life of his children.... What do you do to futher your beliefs? Marc Lemire DIGITAL FREEDOM SYSOP (416) 462-3327 -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Thu Jul 6 20:07:18 PDT 1995 Article: 6366 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!winternet.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: Re: Comrade Zundel Needs your Help Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada References: <3suuv5$1gh@news1.best.com> <3sph49$cip@clam.rutgers.edu> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 21:40:02 GMT Lines: 27 In a previous article, stukafox@best.com (StukaFox) says: >Marcus (xenith@clam.rutgers.edu) wrote: > > >: Ernst also has a new toll-free info hotline. It is: > >: 1-800-960-9554. > > > . . . just remember, every call you make to the little Nazi's > 1-800 number costs HIM money! > Don't be so stupid... Most if not all 1-800 servers in the states give you as many free call as it can hold, So call as much as you want.. it will only be a waste of your time..... Not his money. And I will be makeing a $50 donation to Zundel to help him out. I wish him the best of luck Marc Lemire DIGITAL FREEDOM SYSOP (416) 462-3327 -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Thu Jul 6 20:07:20 PDT 1995 Article: 6369 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!winternet.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: Re: Comrade Zundel Needs your Help Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada References: <15909-2906951416430001@ip197.phx.primenet.com> <3sph49$cip@clam.rutgers.edu> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 21:43:12 GMT Lines: 42 In a previous article, 15909@ef.gc.maricopa.edu (Drew) says: >An 800 number, what a treat! I say we all call the 800 hundred number >until the costs get so exorbitant that it must be shut down, because >SOMEONE is paying for it, whether it is our friendly fascist Buttfuck >Zundel himself, or a fascist sympathizer. Toll-free is only free for the >person making the call, not the person receiving it. :) Not true. Most 1-800 servers in the States charge a flat rate to users and there is no per call charge. So call as much as you like, it won't cost him a penny more. >In article <3sph49$cip@clam.rutgers.edu>, xenith@clam.rutgers.edu (Marcus) >wrote: > >| Ernst Zundel has a Web site. The address is: >| >| http://www.kaiwan.com/~greg.ihr/zundel >| >| Ernst also has a new toll-free info hotline. It is: >| >| 1-800-960-9554. >| >| Comrade Zundel needs donations, especially after the arson >| attack when he is having to rebuild his home and headquarters, >| purchase a new high-speed photocopier, and replace office >| furniture, files and books. Give if you can, even the >| smallest amounts add up and help, otherwise call or write >| with moral support. It is reassuring to be told that what >| one is doing is not futile. >| >| He also needs volunteers to help with things. If you live >| in the Toronto area and have some spare time, give him a call. > >-- >15909@ef.gc.maricopa.edu > -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Thu Jul 6 20:07:23 PDT 1995 Article: 6370 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!winternet.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: Re: Comrade Zundel Needs your Help Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada References: <3svfsq$p6h@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> <3sph49$cip@clam.rutgers.edu> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 21:46:52 GMT Lines: 58 In a previous article, avramsso@julian.uwo.ca (Kristof Avramsson) says: >xenith@clam.rutgers.edu (Marcus) wrote: >> >>Ernst Zundel has a Web site. The address is: >> >> http://www.kaiwan.com/~greg.ihr/zundel >> >>Ernst also has a new toll-free info hotline. It is: >> >> 1-800-960-9554. >> >>Comrade Zundel needs donations, especially after the arson >>attack when he is having to rebuild his home and headquarters, >>purchase a new high-speed photocopier, and replace office >>furniture, files and books. Give if you can, even the >>smallest amounts add up and help, otherwise call or write >>with moral support. It is reassuring to be told that what >>one is doing is not futile. >> >>He also needs volunteers to help with things. If you live >>in the Toronto area and have some spare time, give him a call. > > >So what will the money really be used for?...to produce hate >literature?...to fund illegal activities? If Zundel really did anything illegal or produced hate literature he would be in jail by now. The police keep a very close eye on him. Not to speak for Zundel but I would assume that the money will be used to repair the damage that was done as a result of the fire. He need a new photocopier, new office supplies, etc etc. The money for the books and other stuff he publishes come from donations to help pay for the books. > >Something tells me new office furniture isn't the end result. > What tells you that? > >Kristof > > >Kristof Avramsson >avramsso@julian.uwo.ca >Graduate School of Information Science >University of Western Ontario > > > > -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Thu Jul 6 20:07:25 PDT 1995 Article: 6371 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!gatech!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!winternet.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: Re: THE ANTI-DEFIMATION LEAGUE:Part 1 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada References: <3t2i46$g8r@blackice.winternet.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 21:56:07 GMT Lines: 58 In a previous article, joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) says: >In , aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) writes: >> >> Toward the end of May a letter of mine concerning the >>Holocaust was printed in a local newspaper, the Daily Herald. >>About a month later a letter from the ADL, which was a response >>to my letter, appeared in the same paper. >> Here is my letter:> Here is the letter in response to my letter, printed in the >>Herald on July 1: >> In his letter of May 27, Ken Blewitt attempts to uphold >>arguments of Holocaust revisionism. In doing so, he relies upon >>the research of "Fred Leuchter," a self-described engineer from >>Boston. It is important to know that Leuchter has not been >>listed by the Massachusetts Board of Professional Engineers and >>Land Surveyors as a registered, credentialed engineer. >> Blewitt's denial of the use of gas chambers is not only >>offensive, but wrong. According to the scholarly work Holocaust, >>published in 1974, gas chambers were installed and operated at >>Lublin, Sobibor, Majdanek and Auschwitz-Birkenau from 1942 until >>November 1944. Such chambers were the mechanisms for the mass >>murder of approximately 2.5 to 3 million Jews. >> Further, a report by an ex-medical orderly and >>Unterscharfuhrer included in "Truth Prevails: Demolishing >>Holocaust Denial" details the gassing process. The orderly >>explained, "It is difficult to heave the interlaced corpses out >>of the chamber as the gas is stiffening all their limbs." >> Blewitt's statements are rooted in prejudice and are neither >>2 >>sound nor truthful. Denying existence of the Holocaust and >>subjecting it to "revisionism" is not a legitimate academic >>process but a means to further anti-Semitic views. >> Jamie Pearlman >> Assistant Director >> Anti-Defamation League >> Greater Chicago / Wisconsin Region >> >> As yet I have not sent a letter to the Herald in reply to >>Pearlman's letter. >> I would be interested to hear what those who log on to >>Cyberspace Minuteman think of Pearlman's letter. Among other >>things, does it suggest that the ADL has a file on me? > >It suggests that you've been exposed as a liar and an idiot, >among other things. If you want to know if the ADL has a file on >you, why not write and ask them? I just reposted this file. Why should I waste a stamp on the ADL if I already have information on them? Marc Lemire DIGITAL FREEDOM SYSOP (416) 462-3327 -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Thu Jul 6 20:07:27 PDT 1995 Article: 6372 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!gatech!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!winternet.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: Re: THE ANTI-DEFIMATION LEAGUE: Part 3c Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada References: <3t2i8r$g8r@blackice.winternet.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 21:59:10 GMT Lines: 36 In a previous article, joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) says: >In , aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) writes: >> >>White Paper on the ADL >>FOREIGN AGENTS CONTROL YOUR GOVERNMENT >> >>(Spotlight Reprint from August 10, 1981) >> >> [This white paper was distributed to every member of the >>House of Representatives and the Senate of the United States on >>June 1, 1981 in booklet form. > > >.. and fourteen years later, the ADL is still a respected >anti-discrimination organization, and the Spotlight and Liberty >Lobby folks are still a bunch of trailer-trash losers. > >What can we learn from this? Actually Mr. Rosenberg we learn that YOU do not like Liberty Lobby or Spotlight and that you like that ADL. You are entitled to you own opinions but why do you come in our conferences and post? Alt.politics.nationalism.white is for WHITE NATIONALISTS. And for us to talk. Why would you be here in the first place. What do you learn from that? Marc Lemire DIGITAL FREEDOM SYSOP (416) 462-3327 -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Thu Jul 6 20:07:30 PDT 1995 Article: 6373 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!gatech!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!winternet.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: Re: THE ANTI-DEFIMATION LEAGUE EXPOSED: PART 4 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada References: <3t2ieh$g8r@blackice.winternet.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 22:05:16 GMT Lines: 93 In a previous article, joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) says: >In , aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) writes: >> >>"We believe that freedom of speech should be blocked, anyone who says >>anything negative about jews or anything else should be blocked, End >>Freedom of speech, freedom of speech should only be a privilege, not >>a right" -spoken from Isaac Rosen (Jew) >> >> >> >>Here is a press release from the Anti-Defamation League. >>I downloaded the press release from the U.S. Newswire BBS >>in Maryland at (410) 363-0834. I do not work for the ADL. >> >> Anti-Semitism Detoured on the Information Superhighway >> To: National Desk >> Contact: Myrna Shinbaum, 212-490-2525 ext. 7747 or >> Mary Vasiliades, 212-490-2525 ext. 7751, >> both of the Anti-Defamation League >> >> NEW YORK, Feb. 24 -- Anti-Semitic messages no longer >>have a free ride on Prodigy's information superhighway, >>the company has assured the Anti-Defamation League (ADL). >> Jeffrey P. Sinensky, director of the league's Civil Rights >>Division, recently lodged a complaint with the computer online >>service regarding two messages on Prodigy bulletin boards which >>charged that ADL and Jews in general were responsible for the >>shootout at the Waco compound of the Branch Davidians, as well >>as the assassination of President Kennedy. Sinensky was delighted >>when he received a prompt response from Prodigy president, Ross >>Slatzer, which said in part: >> "You'll be pleased to know that the individual was reported >>to us by our members. In addition to removing the note, the >>individual was warned and subsequently suspended from using >>the boards. Any further infractions will result in immediate >>account termination." >> ADL focused national attention in 1991 on the growing use >>of online bulletin boards by Holocaust deniers and bigots. >>After an exchange of letters between ADL and Prodigy and a barrage >>of publicity, the firm amplified its guidelines concerning bulletin >>board messages to include blatant expressions of bigotry, racism >>and hate in its definition of what is "grossly repugnant." >> Sinensky said, "We are very pleased with the company's sensitivity >>and good judgement in implementing and enforcing their prohibition >>of statements that are grossly repugnant to community standards." >>He said ADL has received considerable fewer complaints regarding >>bigoted messages on Prodigy bulletin boards since the firm clarified >>its guidelines. >> The Anti-Defamation League, founded in 1913, is the world's >>leading organization fighting anti-Semitism through programs >>and services that counteract hatred, prejudice and bigotry. >> >>-- >> >>"We don't like what people are saying about us (jews) so we will do >>everything in our power to shut them up, and we have the power to do >>it." - Isaac Rosen >> >> >>The ADL (Anti-Defamation League) a jewish/liberal run organization is >>not allowing any thoughts or speech that does not support their >>political agenda. > > >Well, in fact, that ADL is not in a position to "not allow" any >thoughts or speech whatsoever. It is in a position to engage in It harrasses groups, bbs's, etc when they allow "politically incorrect" So they are in a position to limit peoples freedom of speech >free speech, and that includes talking to the folks at Prodigy >and asking if they really want their private concern to be used >to spread anti-semitic bullshit. The big thing with prodigy is about questioning the Holocaust. Why can people not question the Holocaust? > >And if you don't like that, there are countries where free speech >isn't allowed -- need a ticket? Gee mighty quick to kick people out 'eh! Why don't you take the ticket and get the hell out. I was born in Canada and I will die in Canada! Marc Lemire DIGITAL FREEDOM SYSOP (416) 462-3327 -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Thu Jul 6 20:07:36 PDT 1995 Article: 6374 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!winternet.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: THE REAL HOLOCAUST: Dresden Part 1 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 22:08:16 GMT Lines: 309 **************************************************************************** **************************************************************************** ** ** ** THIS FILE IS AVAILIBLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON ** ** ** ** DIGITAL FREEDOM BBS ** ** Node 1. (416) 462-3327 28.8 V.34, V.FC, V.42 ** ** Node 2. (416) 465-4767 14.4 V.32 ** ** ** ** Digital Freedom BBS also has 1.11 GIG'S on other files including ** ** Thought Provoking Text, Picture (Gif, Tiff, BMP) and Sound files (WAV)** ** ** ** *HUGE* CANADIAN PATRIOTS NETWORK, NATIONAL ALLIANCE, HERITAGE FRONT, ** ** KEN MCVAY'S 'NITZKOR', SCRIPTURES FOR AMERICA, ARYAN NATIONS, ** ** REVISIONIST, POLITICAL AND ANTI-CENSORSHIP FILES. ** ** ** ** 100% FREE access to all file and message bases ** ** ** ** CALL NOW ACCESS ON FIRST CALL ** **************************************************************************** **************************************************************************** Subject: DRESDEN: A REAL HOLOCAUST From: vertrauen@aol.com (Vertrauen) February 13 marks the 50th anniversary of the aerial genocide against one of the most important cultural centers of Northern Europe. Within the space of less than 24 hours not only was it reduced to flaming ruins, but over a quarter million of its inhabitants--possibly as many as half a million--had perished in what was the worst massacre of all time. The following account, taken from the Feb. 1985 issue of the NS Bulletin, tells us what a real holocaust is like. Fifty years ago, as Allied planes rained death and destruction over Germany, the old Saxon city of Dresden lay like an island of tranquility amid desolation. Famous as a cultural center and possessing no military value, Dresden had been spared the terror that descended from the skies over the rest of the country. In fact, little had been done to provide the ancient city of artists and craftsmen with anti-aircraft defenses. One squadron of planes had been stationed in Dresden for awhile, but the Luftwaffe decided to move the aircraft to another area where they would be of use. A gentlemen's agreement seemed to prevail, designating Dresden as an "open city." On Shrove Tuesday, February 13, 1945, a flood of refugees fleeing the Red Army 60 miles away had swollen the city's population to well over a million. Each new refugee brought fearful accounts of Soviet atrocities. Little did those refugees retreating from the Red terror imagine that they were about to die in a horror worse than anything Stalin could devise. Normally, a carnival atmosphere prevailed in Dresden on Shrove Tuesday. In 1945, however, the outlook was rather dismal. Houses everywhere overflowed with refugees, and thousands were forced to camp out in the streets, shivering in the bitter cold. However, the people felt relatively safe; and although the mood was grim, the circus played to a full house that night as thousands came to forget for a moment the horrors of war. Bands of little girls paraded about in carnival dress in an effort to bolster waning spirits. Half-sad smiles greeted the laughing girls, but spirits were lifted. No one realized that in less than 24 hours those same innocent children would die screaming in Churchill's firestorm. But, of course, no one could know that then. The Russians, to be sure, were savages, but at least the Americans and British were "honorable". So when the first alarms signaled the start of 14 hours of hell, Dresden's people streamed dutifully into their shelters. But they did so without much enthusiasm, believing the alarms to be false, since their city had never been threatened from the air. Many would never come out alive, for that "great democratic statesman," Winston Churchill--in collusion with that other "great democratic statesman," Franklin Delano Roosevelt-- had decided that the city of Dresden was to be obliterated by saturation bombing. What were Churchill's motives? They appear to have been political, rather than military. Historians unanimously agree that Dresden had no military value. What industry it did have produced only cigarettes and china. But the Yalta Conference was coming up, in which the Soviets and their Western allies would sit down like ghouls to carve up the shattered corpse of Europe. Churchill wanted a trump card-- a devastating "thunderclap of Anglo-American annihilation"--with which to "impress" Stalin. That card, however, was never played at Yalta, because bad weather delayed the originally scheduled raid. Yet Churchill insisted that the raids be carried out-- to "disrupt and confuse" the German civilian population behind the lines. Dresden's citizens barely had tine to reach their shelters. The first bomb fell at 10:09 p.m. The attack lasted 24 minutes, leaving the inner city a raging sea of fire. "Precision saturation bombing" had created the desired firestorm. A firestorm is caused when hundreds of smaller fires join in one vast conflagration. Huge masses of air are sucked in to feed the inferno, causing an artificial tornado. Those persons unlucky enough to be caught in the rush of wind are hurled down entire streets into the flames. Those who seek refuge underground often suffocate as oxygen is pulled from the air to feed the blaze, or they perish in a blast of white heat-- heat intense enough to melt human flesh. WOMEN AND CHILDREN TARGETED One eye witness who survived told of seeing "young women carrying babies running up and down the streets, their dresses and hair on fire, screaming until they fell down, or the collapsing buildings fell on top of them." There was a three-hour pause between the first and second raids. The lull had been calculated to lure civilians >from their shelters into the open again. To escape the flames, thousands of civilians had crowded into the Grosser Garten, a magnificent park nearly one and a half miles square. The second raid came at 1:22 a.m. with no warning. Twice as many bombers returned with a massive load of incendiary bombs. The second wave was designed to spread the raging firestorm into the Grosser Garten. It was a complete "success." Within a few minutes a sheet of flame ripped across the grass, uprooting trees and littering the branches of others with everything from bicycles to human limbs. For days afterward, they remained bizarrely strewn about as grim reminders of Allied sadism. At the start of the second air assault, many were still huddled in tunnels and cellars, waiting for the fires of the first attack to die down. At 1:30 a.m. an ominous rumble reached the ears of the commander of a Labor Service convoy sent into the city on a rescue mission. He described it this way: "The detonation shook the cellar walls. The sound of the explosions mingled with a new, stranger sound which seemed to come closer and closer, the sound of a thundering waterfall; it was the sound of the mighty tornado howling in the inner city." MELTING HUMAN FLESH Others hiding below ground died. But they died painlessly--they simply glowed bright orange and blue in the darkness. As the heat intensified, they either disintegrated into cinders or melted into a thick liquid--often three or four feet deep in spots. Shortly after 10:30 on the morning of February 14, the last raid swept over the city. American bombers pounded the rubble that had been Dresden for a steady 38 minutes. But this attack was not nearly as heavy as the first two. However, what distinguished this raid was the cold- blooded ruthlessness with which it was carried out. U.S. Mustangs appeared low over the city, strafing anything that moved, including a column of rescue vehicles rushing to the city to evacuate survivors. One assault was aimed at the banks of the Elbe River, where refugees had huddled during the horrible night. In the last year of the war, Dresden had become a hospital town. During the previous night's massacre, heroic nurses had dragged thousands of crippled patients to the Elbe. The low-flying Mustangs machine-gunned those helpless patients, as well as thousands of other old men, women and children who had escaped the city. When the last plane left the sky, Dresden was a scorched ruin, its blackened streets filled with corpses. The city was spared no horror. A flock of vultures escaped from the zoo, and fattened on the carnage. Rats swarmed over the piles of corpses. A Swiss citizen described his visit to Dresden two weeks after the raid: "I could see torn-off arms and legs, mutilated torsos and heads which had been wrenched from their bodies and rolled away. In places the corpses were still lying so densely that I had to clear a path through them in order not to tread on arms and legs." The death toll was staggering. The full extent of the Dresden holocaust can be more readily grasped if one considers that over 250,000--possibly as many as half a million--persons died within a 14-hour period, whereas the dead at Hiroshima numbered only 71,878. Allied apologists for the massacre have often "twinned" Dresden with the English city of Coventry. But the 380 killed in Coventry during the entire war cannot begin to compare with the 250,000-plus slaughtered in 14 hours at Dresden. Moreover, Coventry was a munitions center, a legitimate military target. Dresden on the other hand, produced only china--and cups and saucers can hardly be considered military hardware! It is interesting to further compare the respective damage to London and Dresden, especially when we recall all the Hollywood schmaltz about the "London blitz." In one night, 1,600 acres of land were destroyed in the Dresden massacre. London escaped with damage to only 600 acres during the entire war. In one ironic note, Dresden's only conceivable military target--its railroad yard--was ignored by Allied bombers. They were too busy concentrating on helpless old men, women and children. If there ever was a war crime, then certainly the Dresden Holocaust ranks as the most sordid one of all time. Yet there are no movies made today condemning this fiendish slaughter; nor did any Allied airman--or Sir Winston--sit in the dock at Nuremberg. In fact, the Dresden airmen were actually awarded medals for their role in this mass murder. But, of course, they could not have been tried, because they were "only following orders." This is not to say that the mountains of corpses left in Dresden were ignored by the Nuremberg Tribunal. In one final irony, the prosecution presented photographs of the Dresden dead as "evidence" of alleged National Socialist atrocities against Jewish concentration-camp inmates! Churchill, the monster who ordered the Dresden slaughter, was knighted and the rest of his career is history. The cold-blooded sadism of the massacre, however, is brushed aside by his biographers, who still cannot bring themselves to tell how the desire of one madman to "impress" another one led to the mass murder of up to half million men, women and children. 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Gave your life that truth might start On her stellar quest. George, you passed the test. What makes a man give his life for his race? They'd have us vanish from Earth without trace, But you wait in the wings for the moment of our call. GLR, now the tide is advancing, But we'll all hold the line And rise as one, in the sun. GLR, spare us some of your spirit, For our victory is nigh, And you are here, like a god. George Lincoln Rockwell, come back and save us.... AVATAR (Adolf Hitler) Aryan Sun, shine down on the land; >From icy mountains to margin of sand. We've dreamed a dream of what must be-- So open your mind and heaven you'll see. One people, one blood-community In roaring forests and on the sea; The warrior's oath, the mother's smile-- Soft winds on meadows, mile by mile. And He is there, behind it all: Purest Idea, commanding Call. The fire of His Mind, the blazing eyes, Gift of the Gods, from bluest skies. Aryan Sun, shine down on the land; >From icy mountains to margin of sand. We've dreamed a dream of what must be-- So open your mind, His heaven you'll see.... ARIADNE(1) IN AMERICA Jefferson, John C. Calhoun: where did you go, wherever did you go? Washington, and Franklin too, where did you go, wherever did you go? America, I miss you, miss you: I want to come back home. America, I need to see you, I need to come back home. Edgar Poe and Mencken, love you so, I wanted you to know. Ambrose Bierce, and Dr. Pierce--love you so, I wanted you to know. Arya, Arya, Savitri Devi, Shine like a star.... Get the monkey who's paid to sing, to get a monkey to bear the ring(2); Get the stars 'cause they're sure to bring cash to ransom a captured king. Do you have no shame? Who will take the blame? It's the aliens' turn to be driven into the foaming sea. We will rise and we'll do much more, 'til we're victors from shore to shore. Then we'll stage some trials. Gibbets(3) stretch for miles. America, I miss you.... TO ROBERT MATHEWS IN VALHALLA We're on the march today to Whidbey Island; we've found a reason to live today, on Whidbey Island. Maybe, now we know just why this young man had to die. He saw the gleaming dawn; he asked the question. We follow him where he's led, O Northern Bastion. Our people must not die; we'll never live a lie. We've built our fires tonight on Whidbey Island. The flames will rise and rise from Whidbey Island. And then the world will know, how from a spark the flames will grow. O Whidbey Island. ZOG(4)/BLOOD AND SOIL Slay, slay the dragon: go, go for, go for the throat. ZOG has me in its power walking on the brink. ZOG tells me what to do and everything I think. ZOG--I awake at night and ZOG is at the door; ZOG--I would free myself, I'm living like a whore. How can you live with this evil? The tune's been called by the devil. How fares your soul, little citizen? Get off your knees, little citizen! ZOG--I'm awake and yet I'm walking in my sleep. ZOG--There's a precipice my steps now seem to seek. ZOG--Turn around there is a monster just behind. ZOG--And he's tearing out my will, my heart, my mind. For blood and for soil, we will work, we will toil; Heaven is born on the Earth. The heroes arise as we shout to the skies: We will now have our rebirth! DESOLATION ROW (To Robert Miles) You see the smiles you see the bright eyes You hear the laughter reach up to the skies For though we are down, we're not defeated On Desolation Row And as we stand by the fire, We watch the flames mounting ever higher And if you steel your heart The world will mark its change Every element rearrange. Though we must all suffer fools, Yet we must never suffer gladly And if you cannot stand with us, Then stand aside--the gates of paradise open wide.... Gods tumble down as the new world reveals its visage And though the flowers droop sometimes, we soothe our minds When winter comes, spring is close behind. Let the old fools make their deals. Let the old world prepare its exit. We're waiting in the wings right now to show you how A real live Hamlet can take a bow. DARK QUEEN Chill winds in the winterland; Blue ice, red fire. Dark queen of my decadence, quench my desire. CALL OF THE BLOOD Though you walk by the sea of oblivion, keep your eyes on the temples of light. Bear your torch high in front of the wavering crowd. In your hands is the doom of the night. For many are called, but so few are chosen; you must find the gods you have lost, or never found. Too many have wandered afar from the Northland, you must heed the Call of the Blood. What my eyes witness now in a prostrate world calls new strength to the Call of the Blood. Nordic honor and dignity flee the Dark, and we're menaced by uprising floods. Close the ranks, day is dawning throughout the land; the invisible web is now thrown. Seize the monsters and drive them back whence they came, To the womb of the Eternal Unknown. NOTES: 1. Ariadne: In Greek mythology, the daughter of Minos and Pasiphae, who gave Theseus the thread by which he found his way out of the Labyrinth. 2. Michael Jackson at Elizabeth Taylor's wedding. 3. A reference to The Day of the Rope. See the novel The Turner Diaries available from National Vanguard Books. 4. "Zionist Occupation Government" Original cover painting by Alfred Sundvall SIDE TWO THE STORMER (Julius Streicher(1)) Take the mask off, let's see what is inside. Plastic demon(2), let's see what you would hide. Manila envelope comes to my door, watching me, watching me crawl on the floor. Juli can tell me the truth if I want, and he'll perform any trick, any stunt. I won't trust any old fox on the heath; I won't give dirty DSJs(3) my seat. I wouldn't trust Mr. Suess on his oath: Juli has told me, "Watch out for them both!" ARYANS: We know we fear you, you tell me-- KIKES: Impossible! ARYANS: We would avoid you, you tell me-- KIKES: Impossible! ARYANS: Can we avoid you? You tell me-- KIKES: Impossible! ARYANS: But we'll destroy you and then you must-- Juli, they beat you(4), they f---ed with your pride. Moulies abused you with mouths opened wide. Yet you returned in a plain-paper bag, taller and whiter than Snow-covered crag. LANDSBERG AM LECH A four and a half year struggle against lies, stupidity, and cowardice.(5) A reckoning. (Who's afraid of Mr. Wolf? Who's afraid to wage a war?) NOW WILL OUR FOLK BE FREE Instauration... meditation... Aryan nation... When will our folk be free? Dragon boats sail... enemies pale... Victory hail... Dragon boats sail... Soon will our Folk be free. In the Northland... We will gather... evolution... near the glaciers... Now will our Gods be free. TRYST (Danger in Central Park) As they strolled through the park near the flashing of the fountains, the full moon shed its light on the lovers as they walked. Sweet was the nighttime to the dreamers; warm is the feeling of new love. But there's a shadow moving swiftly through the darkness-- And they are not protected, and they won't see the day. Danger in Central Park, Zooland, USA, where the primates kill and feast each and every day. Sad, o so sad, but no one complains; Bad, very bad, they should all be in chains. There's the crunch of the leaves as the killer moves in closer; but they don't seem to hear as he moves toward their tryst. Sweet was the nighttime to the dreamers; warm is the gushing of their blood. Stranger, you must shed a tear for our poor lovers-- For they were not protected, and did not see the day.... THE PARTY SONG Big belly bourgeois he sends me my check And if he don't I will narrow his neck For I have emerged in the land of the free With dope for your kids and much money for me I'll never go--I'm nailed down you know I'll stay 'til the trumpets of doom. Your streets are gold; they're bought and they're sold; Get out of my way, just make room! I like to party in de daytime I like to party in de nighttime When I wake up I say as I start the new day "I'm so glad that I came to America!" The living is free and my family's with me I'm so glad that I'll never go home. "Give me your lazy, your botched, and your whores"-- That's what you say as we land on your shores. You are a milk-cow with millions of teats We got the mouths and we sure got the wits. We'll never go--we're nailed down you know; We'll stay in these well-furnished rooms. Your streets are gold, they're bought and they're sold; Get out of our way; we're your doom! THRENODY (to The Leader) Walking on a road of fate with head held high We've another sorrow. And since his flame of life was quenched we dread the day-- Dread each sad tomorrow. So in the dark we huddle close in friendship's glow, Guardians of the Order. And those who rave and fume like monsters in the gloom Will receive no quarter. What are we coming to? What did he ask of you?--of me? Now, it is a darkling time And it's late, very late, very late. Pass into a cosmic circle of fate Not too late, not too late, For those who train their questing souls for the Day. And as we gather in the sacred little rooms We are in His presence. We chant the chants and feel the roar of Viking blood Gathered from His essence. For we must halt the steep decline of humankind. Raise the banner high! We believe that we will fight the final fight Under Nordic skies. TOYS (George's Weapons) (They called George Bush a sissy, so to increase his popularity ratings and to please his Jewish masters, he rained fire down upon the people of Iraq.) WHITE AMERIKA I dream of White Amerika, aglow with strength and beauty, Where children ramble unafraid and free. Our women bring forth noble sons to build a world of glory. And daughters weave their magic spells. One day.... I want to live in a White Amerika I'll find my fate in a White Imperium. Smash the system-- Off with their heads. HORST WESSEL SONG(6) (reprise) Raise up the flag, and stand as one, together. Our troops will march with steady, iron tread. Though comrades fall, shot down by leftists and Reaction, They march with us in spirit to the fight. Clear off the streets, the Brown Battalion marches! The streets are free--the Brown Battalions rule. The sacred flag brings hope to our oppressed millions; The day for freedom and for bread is here. At last the call to struggle rings out loudly-- And we're prepared: we storm into the fight! As Hitler's flag is waving proudly in the bright skies, Our slavery ends forever in this land! NOTES: 1. National Socialist official and publisher, ritually murdered for his writings by Jews in 1946. 2. Composer Richard Wagner's term for the Jew. 3. "Department Store Jewess"--a term used in Mein Kampf. 4. Streicher was tortured by Negroes at Nuremberg. 5. This sentence was the original title of Mein Kampf. 6. Horst Wessel was an early martyr of National Socialism, and this song, here paraphrased in English by Joseph Pryce, was the anthem of the Hitler movement. These songs are done with care and beauty and remind me of that most Aryan of rock groups, the Moody Blues, though with a harder edge. This is far more sophisticated music, both technically and compositionally, than most pro-White music. Order cassette #609 from National Vanguard Books, Box 330, Hillsboro WV 24946 USA. $9.95 plus $1.50 postage and handling. --Kevin Strom [duplicated bbs ad deleted] -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Thu Jul 6 20:07:58 PDT 1995 Article: 6378 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!spool.mu.edu!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!steel.interlog.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: THE REAL HOLOCAUST: Dresden Part 3 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 22:13:47 GMT Lines: 684 [duplicated bbs ad deleted] HOLOCAUST AT DRESDEN By George Fowler (from The Barnes Review) A half century has passed since february 13-14, 1945. Overnight, one of europe's great meccas of art and culture, a city that had become a hospital center for german, american and british wounded, that housed many thousand allied prisoners of war, and that had become a haven to refugees fleeing the red army, was bombed into oblivion. But the perpetrators of one of history's great outrages were to receive the laurels of glorious victory rather than a place in the war crimes dock. Part 1 - PRELUDE TO HOLOCAUST After nearly three years of unremitting Allied air offensives against Germany's civilian population, plans for the destruction of the open city of Dresden, incinerating at least 135,000 people, took shape on March 30, l942. However the seeds of such inhuman hate had long since found fertile soil at 10 Downing Street and within the White House. On the above date Prof. F.A. Lindemann, later, Lord Cherwell, the Prime Minister's Science Advisor and a jewish refugee from Germany, delivered to Winston Churchill a fateful report. In his book BOMBER COMMAND Max Hastings stated that "Cherwell's Report provided the final rationalization for the program Bomber Command was undertaking, and it would henceforth be paper-clipped to the plans of the bomber offensive." Lindemann estimated that every 40 tons of bombs "dropped on built-up areas" would "make 4,000 to 8,000 people homeless." This report to the PM stated: "In l938 over 22 million Germans lived in 58 towns of over 100,000 inhabitants, which, with modern equipment, should be easy to find and hit." Hastings concluded that Lindemann "Hoped to create a nation of refugees, and no doubt also a good many corpses under the rubble, although he was too genteel to say so." There were of course discussions and disagreements regarding strategic and tactical approaches to the bombing of Germany. But Lindermann's report is considered the basic text behind the wholesale bombing of civilian targets. Prior to the report's dispatch to Churchill, a February 143, l942 Air Ministry directive to Bomber Command from Air Vice Marshal Sir Norman Bottomly contained the following Valentine's Day message: "You are accordingly authorized to employ your forces without restriction . . . (operations) should now be focused on the moral of the enemy civil population and in particular, of the industrial workers." On February 22, while Churchill was staying at the White House, it was decided that Air Marshal Arthur Harris would leave his post as the head of the RAF delegation in Washington (an assignment he had held in neutral America beginning June 12, l941) to head Bomber Command. This fateful reassignment would team Harris with a PM of kindred instincts in one of Western history's most costly and ghastly undertakings. The first chapters of World War II, from Germany's Sept. 3, l939 invasion of Poland to the May-June l940 clash in the West when France capitulated and Britain was driven from the continent, saw a scarcity of bombing by the belligerents. This was largely the period of "Sitzkreig" and "Bore War"during which Germany's bombing of Warsaw prior to Poland's surrender marked the only major incident: a relatively moderate attack that proved costly to Germany on the propaganda front. Throughout the l939-40 months of frontal stalemate in the West, Hitler didn't order the Luftwaffe to bomb Britain (while working continually for a negotiated peace with London that would allow him to concentrate on his plan for land acquisition in the East and the destruction of Bolshevism's Soviet bastion). The Royal Air Force confined its activities to the dropping of propaganda leaflets. The bombing of the open city of Freiburg-imBreigeu on May 10, l940, killed 22 children, 13 women, 11 men and 11 soldiers. Whether the bombers were French, British or even German has never been determined but the civilians killed and the property destroyed were real and gave Propaganda Minister Josef Goebbels grist to promise that the Luftwaffe would answer the destruction "in a like manner." Four days later the Germans bombed Rotterdam. From northern German airfields some 100 Heinkel III bombers were poised to attack remaining resistance zones in the city. However, surrender negotiations with the Dutch government were in progress. The raid, planned for 1500 hrs. (3 pm), was ordered postponed after takeoff on a flight of about 100 minutes to target areas. The Dutch government had been stalling during negotiating session. German terms were finally agreed to five minutes before the time set for the attack. But the recall could not be signaled to those bombers that had crossed the Netherlands border. At that point they had reeled in their trailing aerials allowing long range reception. A swift fighter was dispatched to head off the bombers, and from a German panzer position on the ground at Rotterdam, where the mission-scrub signal had been received, signal flares were fired to ward off an attack that began just as the flares went up. The signal was received in time to disengage 40 of the Heinkels. The city's main water supply system was hit, and considerable fire ensued in one area (no incendiaries were dropped) due largely to hits on a margarine plant from which streams of burning oil flowed. In l9l2 the Rotterdam government released figures showing that 980 people had been killed in the raid. The considerable devastation in the city gave Allied propagandists a field day, and Rotterdam became the greatest war atrocity story since Japan's "Rape of Nanking" in the l930s. In his l963 book THE DESTRUCTION OF DRESDEN David Irving noted that "Ninety four tons of bombs had been dropped . . . By comparison, close to 9,000 tons of high explosives and incendiaries were dropped on the inland Ruhr port of Duisburg during the triple blow of 14th October l944." With Germany's bombing of Britain following France's surrender, strategic targets were singled out and hit with a high degree of accuracy. But on the night of August 24, l940 (the main London targets being the vital East End dock-shipping-industrial areas), the target was the oil storage depot at Thames Haven. A navigational error led to the bombing of parts of the East End, the City and St. Giles. The bombing of central London drew the immediate retaliatory response of the Royal Air Force. The following night it bombed Berlin, with slight effect. This enraged Hitler, who issued a command that may have cost Germany victory. He ordered that the Luftwaffe switch its attacks to London and away from RAF installations and radar sites. This allowed the severely depleted Fighter Command a short but much needed period to regroup. The Luftwaffe's incredibly costly (most particularly in terms of seasoned pilots and crew) London "Blitz" is dated from September 7, l940 to May 16, l94l. Luftwaffe figures show that throughout this period 24,177 tons of bombs were dropped during 71 major attacks on London and other areas of industrial concentration, such as Hull, Liverpool and Manchester. The British calculated that, by the end of l940, 13,399 Britons had been killed in raids. The German raid ranking with Rotterdam in terms of propaganda value was the bombing of Coventry in November, l940. In bombing this industrial city Coventry's Cathedral was nearly demolished. Pictures of its ruins filled America's newspapers and newsreel screens. In his l975 book THE FIRST CASUALTY (the title evidently taken from U.S. Sen. Hiram Johnson's 1917 observation that "The first casualty, when war comes, is truth."). Philip Knoghtly noted that the LONDON TIMES editorialized on the "butchery at Coventry . . . The wanton slaughter by a people pretending to be civilized who, it would seem, kill mostly for the joy of destroying." Of this Knightly wrote: "Coventry was actually a legitimate military target, one of the keys to the British war effort" containing such plants as the Standard Motor Co., the British Piston Ring Co., and Kaimler motor works and Alvis aero-engine factory. The British had known of Germany's intent to bomb Coventry due to an early intercept of Germany's ENIGMA code system by way or its ULTRA codebreaking device. But Churchill vetoed interception of the Luftwaffe attack for fear that it would tip the Germans to the fact that their main code had been broken. Thus Coventry entailed a double deception on the part of the British. But this did not deter Churchill from ordering "Operation Rachel." This was the codename for the December 12, l940 Bomber Command attack on Mannheim. On the PM's direct order it was to be a reprisal for the considerable damage done to Coventry and the first occasion in the relatively brief annals of air warfare that an entire city was to be the deliberate target of attack. Britain had began the war with a somewhat antiquated bomber capacity. But by l942 and with America's full material support, Bomber Command was a formidable force. In the spring of l942 Harris sold Churchill the Chief of Air Staff Sir Charles Portal on a 1,000-plane raid. Stretching all human and material resources, l,047 planes, largely with inexperienced crews were gathered. When Churchill and Harris discussed potential casualties, the PM said he was prepared for the loss of 100 planes. Hamburg, Germany's second largest city, was to be the target. But weather conditions dictated a switch to the secondary target and Germany's third largest city, Cologne. The raid was carried out May 30 and it was a success. The city along the Rhine burned deep red well into the sky, the great Cathedral's twin spires (one of which would subsequently be destroyed) clear silhouettes to the airmen above. The raid had wrought instant devastation unequaled since biblical lore. Over 12,000 structures had been totally or partially destroyed, with 45,000 people left homeless. Remarkably, only 496 dead were counted. The water, power gas and telephone complexes were in shambles and 36 factories were destroyed, 70 more badly damaged. Bomber command was delighted at the loss of only 40 aircraft. Max Hastings noted in BOMBER COMMAND that "It was a mere token of the destruction Bomber Command would achieve in l942 and 1943 . . ." In the latter months of l942 U.S. Army Air Corps B-17s and B-25 Liberators began limited daylight operations against targets in France and Germany. The Air Corps' top brass under Gen. H.H. "Hap" Arnold, in conjunction with Bomber Command's leaders were using for an all-out campaign of U.S.-daylight/RAF-night operations. The American airmen had an added incentive. They wanted the postwar establishment of a separate armed service co-equal with the Army and Navy. The bomber offensive was their prime opportunity so show what they could do, and it would lead to many an unnecessary but destructive mission. The efforts of the Air Corps-Bomber command lobbying were fully rewarded at the Roosevelt-Churchill Casablanca conference in January, l943. A Casablanca directive read: "Your primary aim will be the progressive destruction and dislocation of the German military, industrial and economic system, and the undermining of the moral of the German people to the point where their capacity for armed resistance is fatally weakened . . . " Following Casablanca, America's bomber presence escalated markedly, with USAAF (U.S. Army Air Force) fields increasingly dotting the fields of eastern England. The stage was fully set for one of history's darkest dramas, and one that would place gold stars signifying a family member killed in action in the front windows of tens of thousands of American homes. The physical punch to achieve what "Bomber" Harris had envisioned was now in place. Max Hastings wrote: "Long before Casablanca, or even before Cologne, Harris had conceived his campaign for the systematic laying-waste of Germany's cities, and he never had the slightest intention of being deflected from it." In the summer of l943 Bomber Command was to unleash its most lethal strike of the war save for Dresden, and it would provide the first major instance of British and American public doubt and criticism. Although Hamburg had "weathered" Harris's initial 1000-plane raid, it would be visited in a manner that can only be recalled as a determined atrocity. In BOMBER HARRIS author Dudly Saward states that the obliteration of Hamburg, "which went by the ominous code name of 'Gomorrah,' was planned to take place over a period of four nights." Before his crews took off on the first assault the night of July 24-25, Harris told them: "The Battle of Hamburg cannot be won in a single night. It is estimated that 10,000 tons of bombs will have to be dropped to complete the process of elimination. To achieve the maximum effect of air bombardment this city should be subjected to sustained attack. On the first attack a large number of incendiaries are to be carried in order to saturate the fire service." Few could misunderstand these words or the intent behind them. This was not a surgical or even carpet bombing strike against military or industrial targets. Clearly, this was the premeditated murder of a city and its people. In the series of four Hamburg raids, July 24 to August 3, Bomber Command dropped 8,621 tons of bombs on the city, 4,309 tons being incendiaries. Eighth Air Force B-17s dropped 771 tons of explosives during the third raid. Initial deaths were estimated at 41,800, but many thousands more died subsequently or were never counted due to incineration, burial beneath rubble or having been blown to bits. The four-raid total may have equaled Great Britain's official total losses for the war of 41,509, THE BOMBER COMMAND DIARIES, published in l985 by Penguin Books, London, states that the August 2-3 raid largely failed due to thunder-storms. Thus most of the destruction was wrought in three raids. In THE DESTRUCTION OF DRESDEN Irving wrote that "When rescue teams finally cleared their way into hermetically sealed bunkers and shelters, after several weeks, the heat generated inside had been so intense that nothing remained of their occupants: only a soft undulating layer of gray ash was left in one bunker, from which the number of victims could only be estimated as 'between 250 and 300'..." Despite the highly restrictive censorship regulations applied to Allied war correspondents (already deemed supportive of the Allied cause as a condition of clearance) fairly large bits and pieces of what the bomber offense was about leaked to some prominent civilian figures. In England, among the most telling critics were the country's two premier military historians, Maj. Gen. J.F.C. Fuller and Captain Basil Liddell Hart. In August, l943 Fuller drafted an article (evidently not published) the LONDON EVENING STANDARD in which he stated: "The worst devastation of the Goths, Vandals, Huns, Seljuks and Mongols pales into insignificance when compared to the material and moral damage now wrought . . ." Following the thousand-plane Cologne raid Hard drafted a private "reflection" that observed: "It will be ironical if the defenders of civilization depend for victory upon the most barbaric, and unskilled, way of winning a war that the modern world had seen . . . We are not counting for victory on success in the way of degrading it to a new low level . . ." As stated in THE ARMY AIR FORCES IN WORLD WAR II, plans were drawn up in early June, l944 to define the post-D-Day invasion bomber campaign. The recommended priorities to both Bomber Command and the U.S. 8th and 15th Air Force (in Italy) were, in order of priority, oil production, jet and V-weapons, ball bearing plants and tank factories. As Supreme Allied Commander, Dwight D. Eisenhower left both the American commanders (Gens. Spaatz and Doolittle) and Harris free to develop independently their strategic bombing campaigns as they saw fit. It was clearly an opportunity to curtail Harris's incredible excesses. But Eisenhower, essentially a high political functionary in uniform, based higher decisions on the wishers of the President and the Prime Minister. On the scorched road to Dresden there were many occurrences similar to what happened at Hamburg. THE BOMBER COMMAND DIARIES, for the city of Darmstadt on the night of September 11-12, l944, tell that 226 Lancasters and 14 Mosquitoes (light bombers, the four-engine Lancaster being Bomber Command's equivalent of the B-17), produced an outstandingly accurate and concentrated raid on this almost intact city of 120,000 people. A fierce fire area was created in the center and in the districts immediately south and east of the center. Property damage in this area was almost complete. Casualties were very heavy. The deaths of 8,433 people were actually reported to police stations. This figure was made up of: German civilians--1,766 men, 2,743 women and 2,129 children, 936 service personnel, 492 foreign workers and 368 prisoners of war." The United States Strategic Bombing survey, compiled after the war, concluded that deaths in Darmstadt that night may have exceeded the RAF figures (taken from initial German figures) by 5,000 because all deaths were not reported by the 49,200 made homeless by the raid and evacuated from the city. Today, the city of Darmstadt has final figures of 12,300 dead and 70,000 homeless. PART TWO: The Infernal Firestorm-- A Glimpse of Hell Thus a long pattern of operational intent, in which everything on German soil that stood, moved or breathed was considered a legitimate recipient of the bomb bay payloads, had been established long before it became Dresden's turn. To begin with, the city was not an industrial center of even moderate importance. It had been bombed once, some 20 USAAF planes hitting with considerable accuracy the city's small industrial area as a secondary target at midday on October 7, l944 during an attack on the Ruhland oil refinery. This raid was at least consistent with both the publicly stated purpose and propaganda regarding the bombing campaign, in that it was a basically surgical strike against valid targets. The essence of pre-holocaust Dresden was described in David Irving's book: "Not endowed with any one great capital industry like those of Essen and Hamburg, even though Dresden was of comparable size, the city's economy had been sustained in peacetime by its theaters, museums, cultural institutions and home industries." Irving noted that "for the British prisoners of war . . . life could not easily be bettered. The Dresdeners were familiar with the English from pre-war days, when the city had been a cultural center, and many made friends among the prisoners--a large section of which were from 1st Airborne Division contingent captured at Arnhem." The factor of pre-war English familiarity with Dresden, generations of students having visited it on the Grand Tour, would play a major part in the raid's aftermath. Dresden's fate had been sealed at the February 4-11, l945 FDR-Churchill-Stalin conference at Yalta. Reports about the Dresden decision center on Stalin's desire to see it savaged as a means of enhancing the Red Army's offensive by jamming up German troop movements. U.S. Chief of Staff George C. Marshall announced publicly that Dresden had been attacked at Stalin's specific request, although after the war the Soviets and East Germans repeatedly referred to the raid as a "diabolical plan" of Churchill's "to kill as many people as possible." Roosevelt and Churchill were of course well aware of Dresden's particulars, including the fact that it was a hospital, prisoner of war and, now, refugee center. The concession was allegedly made to soothe the increasingly arrogant and intransigent Kremlin dictator. But given the fact that at Yalta Stalin achieved control over Eastern Europe, in-effect control of Mongolia, Japan's Kurile Islands, and occupation zone in Korea and a guarantee of $20 billion in eventual German reparations, one might have thought that the bear had been amply fed. After Yalta and the war, Churchill of course went into his "deeply suspicious of Stalin" act just as he had feigned surprise at FDR's unconditional surrender announcement at Casablanca. However, just before flying from Russia on February 14, at the very moment of Dresden's awesome trauma, he lauded his hosts' "great leader." And the ever theatrical PM, who certainly ranked with fellow dipsomaniac thespians John Barrymore and Richard Burton, lauded "The redeemed Crimea, cleansed by Russian valor from the foul taint of the Huns." Dresden had once been a pivotal communications and rail center important to the Wehrmacht. But as Irving notes, by the time it received its fatal blow, "The city's strategic significance was scarcely marginal . . . " it was home to 630,000 permanent residents, its numbers swelled by German and Allied wounded, Allied POWs and hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing areas in the path of the Red Army's advance. The city's authorities were convinced that a non strategic city with a large number of military hospitals, POW compounds, etc., would not receive anything approaching the annihilative smashing so many other cities and towns had undergone. Therefore most of the air defense and flak batteries that would otherwise be in Dresden were transferred to areas where it was assumed they'd be needed. In THE BOMBER COMMAND WAR DIARIES the basic facts of the February 13-14 Dresden raids were recounted: "796 Lancasters and 9 Mosquitoes were dispatched in two separate raids and dropped 1,478 tons of high explosives and 1,182 tons of incendiary bombs . . . 311 American B-17s dropped 771 tons of bombs on Dresden the next day, with the railway yards as their aiming point. Part of the American Mustang (P-51) fighter escort was ordered to strafe traffic on the roads around Dresden to increase the chaos. The Americans bombed Dresden again on the 15th and on March 2 but it was generally accepted that it was the RAF night raid which caused the most serious damage." Of the American strafing Irving noted: "British prisoners who had been released from their burning camps were among those to suffer the discomfort of machine gun attacks . . . Wherever columns of tramping people were marching in or out of the city they were pounced on by the fighters, and machine-gunned or raked with cannon fire." On February 12 the last pre-attack refugee train had pulled into Dresden. People continued to flow into the city from the East, in foot or packed into horse drawn carts. Dresden had not been declared an open city, but few who would attempt to justify its devastation could deny its in-effect status as such. One RAF Flight Engineer recalled that the brightness of the fires below allowed him to fill in his log sheet by the light that shot skyward. A crewman of another plane wrote: "I confess to taking a glance downward as the bombs fell, and I witnessed the shocking sight of a city on fire from end to end. Dense smoke could be seen drifting away from Dresden, leaving a brilliantly illuminated view of the town. My immediate reaction was a stunned reflection on the comparison between the holocaust below and the warnings of the evangelists in Gospel meetings before the war." David Irving noted that "In many cases during the night raids, people, finding that dense suffocating fumes from above were rolling down into the unventilated basements, broke down the wall breaches. Thus the smoke had access to the next-door cellars as well." One survivor wrote: "The detonations shook the cellar walls. The sound of the explosives mixed with a new, strange sound, which seemed to come closer and closer, the sound of a thundering waterfall; it was the sound of the mighty tornado howling into the inner city." Retired Major James "Knobby" Walsh was an Army Air Corps bombardier in WWII and is a subscriber THE BARNES REVIEW. He forwarded the following passage from Edward Jablonski's AIR WAR--WINGS OF FIRE (Doubleday & Co.): "The horror and the terror on the ground was incredible, destruction was extensive, and the loss of life was frightful. The beautiful little city, its population swollen by an influx of refugees from the east fleeing before the Russians bent on revenge, pillage and rape, and its predominantly wooden buildings, ideal for incendiaries, all but vanished in a howling whirlwind of incineration. Although it is unlikely that the true toll will ever be known, the number of people probably killed at Dresden was about 135,000 (as compared with the atomic bombing of Hiroshima, which killed 71,379)." In the l966 book ORDEAL BY FIRE author Roul Tunley described the Dresden experience of an American woman from New Jersey, Anne Wahle, who had gone to prewar Europe as the wife of an Austrian diplomat. She had survived the Hamburg raids and she and her three children would eventually walk and ride hundreds of miles from Dresden to safety. She recalled: "I had never seen anything like it. Howling gusts of hurricane force whipped flames in all directions. Nothing seemed to be spared. I watched little trains of flame race along garden paths and ignite a tree of even a stone ornament." In THE FIRST CASUALTY Knightly wrote: "The flames ate everything organic, everything that would burn. People died by the thousands: cooked, incinerated or suffocated. Then American planes came the next day to machine-gun survivors as they struggled to the banks of the Elbe." Knightly added that "Precise casualty figures will never be known. The German authorities stopped counting when the known dead reached 25,000 and 35,000 were still missing. Some post-war sources put the number of dead at from 100,000 to 130,000, which would greatly exceed the number killed in the atom-bombing of Hiroshima . . . Dresden was merely a staging center for a half million refugees >from Silesia. The (rail) yards were not even attacked. There were no ammunition workshops and factories, only a small works making optical lenses for gun sights." PART THREE: Aftermath: Coverups and Lies The horror extended well into the aftermath, with countless thousands lacking a bare subsistence food ration in addition to adequate winter shelter. Tens of thousands with various degrees of burns and other injuries went unattended. Dresden had 19 major hospitals, all of them damaged to some degree during the raids and three of them totally wiped out. As the Allied air brass knew, Dresden was a center for convalescing Wehrmacht personnel from all fronts as well as for Allied wounded, a large number of them airmen. Fully realizing the extent of the destruction and the circumstances under which it was meted out, London moved to cover its position even before the follow-up American raid. At 9 am on February 14 the Air Ministry released a full-length bulletin. Irving wrote: "In a statement describing the target city in unusual detail, the Air Ministry stressed the vital importance of Dresden to the enemy: As the center of a railway network and as a great industrial town it had become of the greatest value for controlling the German defenses against Marshal Koniev's Armies." Knightly pointed out that Ministry of Defense records show that no war correspondents flew with the bombers, and that there were no eyewitness accounts save for "a few air crews interviewed on their return, and they were given various concocted explanations as to why they were bombing the city--they were attacking German army headquarters, destroying an arms dump, knocking out an industrial area, or even 'wiping out a large poison gas plant." >From THE FIRST CASUALTY: "The truth first came out in Sweden. At 10:15 am on February 15 a Swedish news bulletin transmitted in Danish to occupied Denmark said that the death toll in Dresden was already between 20,000 and 35,000." Then newspapers in neutral countries began printing stories of the raid. On February 17, the Associated Press reported throughout America: "Allied air chiefs have made the long awaited decision to adopt deliberate terror bombing of German population centers as a ruthless expedient of hastening Hitler's doom." Despite the incredible chronological inaccuracy of the "long-awaited decision," the Dresden story, basically was out. But British censors placed a solid clamp on the true nature of Dresden. They fed the Fleet Street press the official "major strategic target" line. Thus following the raid, readers of the EVENING STANDARD read the lead story, under the headline "The Blasting of Dresden" and accompanied by a front page picture of bombs dropping on indistinguishable targets, without learning anything the government wished withheld. In America, however, millions registered feelings of rage, disillusion and concern Marshall's statement that the raid was staged at Stalin's request set off some anti-administration sentiments in Congress. But overall, Roosevelt's bitter enemies were wary of exposing themselves to accusations of criticism during wartime, a factor that had severely curtailed the Dewey-Rricker Republican ticket in 1944 when FDR won his fourth term. In volume three of THE ARMY AIR FORCES IN WORLD WAR 88, published by the University of Chicago press, it was stated that "General Arnold was disconcerted about the publicity" that the AP story had generated and that "Eisenhower heard all about the issue, and AAF headquarters, aware of the damaging impression the recent publicity had made, took steps to prevent another break." England's Fleet Street blackout did not prevent members of Parliament from becoming privy to Dresden's slaughter. Many MP, especially those who had fond memories of the city, reacted with outrage. Churchill, the holocaust's ultimate button-pusher, became the target of considerable friendly fire. In BOMBER HARRIS Seaward noted that 'The whole question of the Allied bombing policy suddenly came under question." In March, Churchill wrote the Chiefs of Staff: "Lit seems to me that the moment has come when the question of bombing the German cities simply for the sake of increasing the terror, though under other pretexts, should be reviewed." Saward found it amazing that "Churchill, of all people" would reach this conclusion in the wake of severe criticism. He noted that the PM "had been the greatest proponent of destroying Germany city by city . . ." Few today realize that in early l945 the U.S. carried out from England six robot missions of B-17s, each loaded with 10 tons of explosives. The planes were "war weary" craft that had been stripped of armor and armament. Pilots got the drone bombers airborne and pointed toward their German targets, then bailed out. None had been successful in hitting specific targets, and the project was scrapped due to British objections. Air Chief Marshal Sir Charles Portal had expressed fears that the Germans, with a great number of planes but few surviving pilots, would be tempted to reply in kind. As to the German V-1 and V-2 rocket bombs that fell on England in l944, few dispute that they were aimed at strategic targets but that there were a large number of civil casualties. Following the war, involved American and British air commanders would fudge and rationalize the years of day-night civilian slaughter. A B-17 navigator, now a lawyer in Northern Virginia, recalls that in raiding Munich their PMI (Point of Maximum Impact) target was the large fountain in the center of the city's business district at high noon, "in order that we could catch the most people out at lunchtime." But "Bomber" Harris remained unmoved by the slaughter, devastation of cultural landmarks and public criticism. The Cromwellian commander raged against any diversions of Bomber Command's mission. In a March 29, l945 letter to Air Vice Marshal Sir Norman Bottomly, Harris wrote: "The (public) feeling, such as there is, over Dresden could easily be explained by a psychiatrist. It is connected with German bands and Dresden shepherdesses." And in writing Bottomry, a man who knew all the grim details of the Dresden reality, Harris prompted the question of who might better benefit >from the ministrations of a psychiatrist: "Actually Dresden was a mass of munitions works, and intact government center, and a key transportation point to the Least. It is now none of these." Writing of Harris after the war, the compilers of the official British history of WWII wrote: "Sir Arthur Harris made a habit of seeing only one side of a question, and then exaggerating it. He had a tendency to confuse advice with interference, criticism with sabotage and evidence with propaganda. However, Harris was seen quite differently by America's two most celebrated figures of that period. In a July 13, l945 letter that went well beyond cordial recognition, Supreme Allied Commander Dwight D. Eisenhower wrote Harris: "My gratitude to you is a small token for the magnificent service which you have rendered, and my simple expression of thanks sounds totally inadequate. Time and opportunity prohibit the chance I should like to shake you and your men by the hand, and thank each of you personally for all that you have done." On October 17, 1944 Harris had been awarded America's Legion of Merit with the degree of Chief Commander. The citation concluded: "He performed his complex task with inspiring leadership and with outstanding cooperation, skill and determination, reflecting great credit upon the service he represents and upon the Armed forces of the United Nations. (Signed) Franklin D. Roosevelt." And of the long and terrible bombing offensive that emanated from Cherwell and Churchill, and that cost 50,000 American and 55,000 British and Commonwealth lives, Max Hastings observed: "It is almost beyond belief that the German army continued to resist so effectively even amidst the rubble of a nation. The Wehrmacht's dogged retreat, and the continued output from the factories until the final weeks, rendered the concept of moral bombing finally absurd." As with Cromwell in Ireland and Roberts and Kitchener in South Africa, Sir Arthur Harris had broken their walls. But he had not broken their courage. ------------------- This was from The Barnes Review 130 Third Street, SE Washington, DC 20003 1-714-548=5530 "...To Bring History into Accord With the Facts" In the tradition of the Father of Historical Revisionism Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes [duplicated bbs ad deleted] -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Thu Jul 6 20:08:02 PDT 1995 Article: 6379 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.cic.net!infoserv.illinois.net!brutus.bright.net!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!steel.interlog.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: THE TRUTH ABOUT SIMON WIESENTHAL: Part 1 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 22:15:06 GMT Lines: 120 [duplicated bbs ad deleted] >From _The Journal of Historical Review_, Vol. 5, Number 1 (Spring 1984): The Sleight-of-Hand of Simon Wiesenthal "Falsus in Uno, Falsus in Omnibus" Mark Weber and Keith Stimely For many years Simon Wiesenthal has made a highly successful career for himself as the world's foremost "Nazi hunter." The American mass media have elevated him to secular sainthood and the U.S. Congress awarded him a special gold medal. In reality Wiesenthal is a proven liar. The most infamous example was his charge that an elderly Polish refugee living in Chicago, Frank Walus, was a Gestapo official responsible for killing Jews during the Second World War. Only a long and costly court battle by an unusually tenacious attorney saved Walus from almost certain death. The government prosecutors were forced to drop their case ignominously. The popular Chicago _Weekly Reader_ and the highly respected _Chicago Lawyer_ published devastating expose~s of Wiesenthal's role in the frame-up of Walus. Eventually even the Washington _Post_ acknowledged his sordid role in the affair. In Canada, the Toronto _Sun_, commenting on another "war criminal" case in which Wiesenthal was involved, and the accused finally determined to be innocent, editorialized: "It seems that material provided by professional Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal is wrong, but repeated [by the print and broadcast media] anyway." Recently yet another example of Wiesenthal's blatant distortion of historical truth came to light. In 1946 Wiesenthal published a book in Austria entitled _KZ Mauthausen_ [Concentration Camp Mauthausen]. It consists mainly of mediocre sketches by the young "Nazi hunter" purporting to represent the horrors of the Mauthausen concentration camp. One of the drawings depicts three Mauthausen inmates bound to posts who had apparently been sadistically put to death by the Germans. Another graphic example of murderous Nazi treatment of inmates! Actually, the sketch is completely phoney. In January 1945 _Life_ magazine published a series of photos graphically recording the firing-squad execution of three German soldiers who had been caught operating as spies behind the lines during the "Battle of the Bulge." Photographer Johnny Florea recorded the execution in December 1944 near Bastogne. The three soldiers died "singing patriotic German songs," _Life_ reported. In its issue of 16 December 1983 the West German weekly newspaper _Deutsche National-Zeitung_ published the _Life_ photos and the Wiesenthal sketch together. Even a quick comparison makes clear beyond any doubt that the "Nazi hunter" HAD COPIED HIS DRAWING FROM THE PHOTOGRAPHS. Wiesenthal's gruesome depiction of German barbarism in Mauthausen is actually the deceitful product of his malicious mind. Another example of the generally spurious character of Wiesenthal's 1946 Mauthausen book is his citation therein of the supposed "death bed" confession of Commandant Franz Ziereis that FOUR MILLION [sic] inmates were gassed to death at the Hartheim satellite camp. Along with Dachau, Ravensbrueck, and Buchenwald, "Holocaust" historians no longer even mention Mauthausen as a "death camp" or gassing center. According to the official tourist brochure now distributed at the camp, a total of only 206,000 persons WERE EVER INMATES at Mauthausen and its satellite camps. Question: How long can a self-respecting world continue to even put up with, let along shower honors on, this man Simon Wiesenthal -- one of the biggest lying fakers of our age? [duplicated bbs ad deleted] -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Fri Jul 7 17:26:20 PDT 1995 Article: 5962 of alt.politics.white-power Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!steel.interlog.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: Re: Read about Holocaust Fighter Ernst Zundel Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada References: <3sv5no$bdc@ionews.io.org> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 23:21:08 GMT Lines: 17 In a previous article, lzaird@io.org () says: >Love the Subject line! > >Zundel's not a revisionist, he's a "fighter of truth"! > He's a FIGHTER FOR TRUTH. Have you ever even read a book from Zundel? Marc Lemire DIGITAL FREEDOM SYSOP (416) 462-3327 -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Fri Jul 7 17:26:23 PDT 1995 Article: 5963 of alt.politics.white-power Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!steel.interlog.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: Re: Great new book on Revisionist ERNST ZUNDEL!!! Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada References: <3sv6rf$lc@ionews.io.org> <3srjq7$r3v@ionews.io.org> In article , >Marc Lemire wrote: >>In a previous article, lzaird@io.org () says: >>>I thought we covered this you asshole... He's less than persecuted. >>Ya right he went through 9 years of court battles.. you don't call that >>persecuted?!?!? maybe you should try it then see what you think of him > >Yeah, well you break the LAW in Canada, expect to get the shaft... This >isn't a country of Anarchy, tell that fat little bastard we have rules. Her didn't break the law. He was found innocent! Nice try > >>>Just because he can't post this smut from his political heaven Canada >>I posted this from the TORONTO Free-net. So what the Hell are you >>talking about. > >And where is Toronto? Canada! That's right... Following me so far Sparky? No I have no clue what on earth you are talking about. You say he cannot "post this smut from his political heaven Canada" Then I say that he does post from Canada? Are you on Crack? > >>>he's bitching...well if he doesn't like the country, answer me this, why >>>doesn't he go back to his beloved Germany? I'd be happy to see that >>>pudgy little bastard shipped back express... Hey, while we're at it, >>He would go to jail for saying the Holocaust Didn't happen the way the >>Media protrays it. Besides why should he leave. He has been a >>contributing member of Canadian Society for a long time. > >Well is he saying something different? Is the media giving him a raw >deal, or are they right on? As far as I can tell, they're saying Zundel >claims it diddn't happen, is Zundel saying something else? All he's All Zundel said is that there was no Gas chambers that Gassed Jewish people. He is not saying that the Nazi's were nice to Jews. >contributed to Canada is an air of racism (and yes, it IS racism, he's a >fucking self-styles neo-nazi, don't say otherwise). He should leave >because the only reason he's here is because his beloved Germany won't >have him. Zundel has done alot for Canada and for German Canadians. He has made thousands of Canadians no longer ashamed to be of German Heritage. PS. What have you done to help Canada? > >>>why don't you answer the world this question, where did 6 million Jews >>>disappear to? >>Order the book "did six million really die?" and find out > >No thanks, I dont need to read that book to tell me you guys are full of >shit... So if 6 million diddn't die, where'd they go? > >>>I think this says enough about his and your motives, the all-mighty >>>buck! You WP types are being suckered by your own kind! >>What is wrong with trying to seel some controversial and thought >>provoking books? He needs money to do all the things he does, at least >>you get something for your donations. A book or a video or a tape. > >Change "needs" to "wants" and you're on the money, so to speak. > >>It costs money to stand up for your rights, but I guess you don't know >>anything about that since the government doesn't PERSECUTE you. > >So if I go and rob a bank, and the govenment locks me up, am I being >persecuted? Or did I BREAK THE LAW!?! Let me say once again since your kind of slow ZUNDEL HAS NOT COMMITED ANY ILLEGIAL ACTS. HE HAS NOT BROKEN ANY LAW! Wake the hell up before responding to this message! Marc Lemire DIGITAL FREEDOM SYSOP (416) 462-3327 [duplicated bbs ad deleted] From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Fri Jul 7 17:26:26 PDT 1995 Article: 5964 of alt.politics.white-power Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.sprintlink.net!gatech!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!steel.interlog.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: Re: Canada's Biggest and Best Pro-White BBS... OVER 200 USERS Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada References: <3t02v5$57t@ionews.io.org> <3srjvh$r8f@ionews.io.org> In article , >Marc Lemire wrote: >>In a previous article, lzaird@io.org () says: >>>In article , >>>Marc Lemire wrote: >>>> NOW OVER 50 MEGS OF REVISIONIST PICTURES AND TEXT FILES!!! >>>> including picture files of ERNST ZUNDEL'S house >>>> which was lit on fire by Jewish Terrorists!! >>>Oh, I gotta get those! I see a new Windows startup screen on the horizon! > >>You must be a pretty sick person. > >This from the guy who has a BBS dedicated to hate in his bedroom...does >Mommy know? Actually the BBS is in my Office. I don't live with my parents unlike maybe you? > >> You should not make fun of someone who >>just lost $100,000+ because he holds a unpopular viewpoint. > >Unpopular? He's denying the deaths of millions! People who's relatives >that died in death camps are still alive and kicking...of course it's >going to be more than just un-popular! Anyways, how's this total of >$100,000 come up? What, did he lose his pricless collection of the >furher's underwear? > Futher's underware? What on earth are you talking about. You are a very sick person. Maybe you should get some help? Besides call Zundel your self and ask how much damage was done to his house. His number is (416) 922-9850 >> You would not be so >>cynical. But your free to do whatever you want. Anyone can logon the BBS > >I probably will one of these days...for a good laugh. Ya since everyone laughs at you here, the 200+ users at Digital Freedom can laugh at you there also. Just in case you forgot here's the info [duplicated bbs ad deleted] -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Fri Jul 7 17:26:28 PDT 1995 Article: 5965 of alt.politics.white-power Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!gatech!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!steel.interlog.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: Re: Canada's Biggest and Best Pro-White BBS... OVER 200 USERS Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada References: <3srjvh$r8f@ionews.io.org> In article <3t02v5$57t@ionews.io.org>, lzaird@io.org wrote: > >> In article , >> Marc Lemire wrote: >> >In a previous article, lzaird@io.org () says: >> >>In article , >> >>Marc Lemire wrote: > >[snip] > >> > You should not make fun of >someone who >> >just lost $100,000+ because he holds a unpopular viewpoint. >> >> Unpopular? He's denying the deaths of millions! People who's relatives >> that died in death camps are still alive and kicking...of course it's >> going to be more than just un-popular! Anyways, how's this total of >> $100,000 come up? What, did he lose his pricless collection of the >> furher's underwear? > >Is it true that a pair of boxers with the fueher's original skidmarks >*are* going for a bazillion dollars these days? Is it also true that the >ones embroidered "Friday" are worth two bazillion, because ol' Adolph >refused to change his drawers on the Jewish Sabbath? > >Ernie must've lost at least seven bazillion dollars' worth of possessions, >well, seven bazillion and fifty dollars if you throw in the rest of his >crap. What the hell are you talking about? Have you done some serious drugs or something? Get a life Marc Lemire DIGITAL FREEDOM SYSOP (416) 462-3327 -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Fri Jul 7 17:26:31 PDT 1995 Article: 5966 of alt.politics.white-power Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!gatech!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!steel.interlog.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: Re: Canada's Biggest and Best Pro-White BBS... OVER 200 USERS Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada References: <3srjvh$r8f@ionews.io.org> In article <3t02v5$57t@ionews.io.org>, lzaird@io.org wrote: > >> In article , >> Marc Lemire wrote: >> >In a previous article, lzaird@io.org () says: >> >>In article , >> >>Marc Lemire wrote: > >[snip] > >> > You should not make fun of >someone who >> >just lost $100,000+ because he holds a unpopular viewpoint. >> >> Unpopular? He's denying the deaths of millions! People who's relatives >> that died in death camps are still alive and kicking...of course it's >> going to be more than just un-popular! Anyways, how's this total of >> $100,000 come up? What, did he lose his pricless collection of the >> furher's underwear? > >Is it true that a pair of boxers with the fueher's original skidmarks >*are* going for a bazillion dollars these days? Is it also true that the >ones embroidered "Friday" are worth two bazillion, because ol' Adolph >refused to change his drawers on the Jewish Sabbath? > >Ernie must've lost at least seven bazillion dollars' worth of possessions, >well, seven bazillion and fifty dollars if you throw in the rest of his >crap. You are a very sick person. Get a life! Marc Lemire DIGITAL FREEDOM SYSOP (416) 462-3327 -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Fri Jul 7 17:26:37 PDT 1995 Article: 5967 of alt.politics.white-power Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!gatech!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!steel.interlog.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: THE REAL HOLOCAUST: Dresden Part 1 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 23:44:46 GMT Lines: 308 [duplicated bbs ad deleted] Subject: DRESDEN: A REAL HOLOCAUST From: vertrauen@aol.com (Vertrauen) February 13 marks the 50th anniversary of the aerial genocide against one of the most important cultural centers of Northern Europe. Within the space of less than 24 hours not only was it reduced to flaming ruins, but over a quarter million of its inhabitants--possibly as many as half a million--had perished in what was the worst massacre of all time. The following account, taken from the Feb. 1985 issue of the NS Bulletin, tells us what a real holocaust is like. Fifty years ago, as Allied planes rained death and destruction over Germany, the old Saxon city of Dresden lay like an island of tranquility amid desolation. Famous as a cultural center and possessing no military value, Dresden had been spared the terror that descended from the skies over the rest of the country. In fact, little had been done to provide the ancient city of artists and craftsmen with anti-aircraft defenses. One squadron of planes had been stationed in Dresden for awhile, but the Luftwaffe decided to move the aircraft to another area where they would be of use. A gentlemen's agreement seemed to prevail, designating Dresden as an "open city." On Shrove Tuesday, February 13, 1945, a flood of refugees fleeing the Red Army 60 miles away had swollen the city's population to well over a million. Each new refugee brought fearful accounts of Soviet atrocities. Little did those refugees retreating from the Red terror imagine that they were about to die in a horror worse than anything Stalin could devise. Normally, a carnival atmosphere prevailed in Dresden on Shrove Tuesday. In 1945, however, the outlook was rather dismal. Houses everywhere overflowed with refugees, and thousands were forced to camp out in the streets, shivering in the bitter cold. However, the people felt relatively safe; and although the mood was grim, the circus played to a full house that night as thousands came to forget for a moment the horrors of war. Bands of little girls paraded about in carnival dress in an effort to bolster waning spirits. Half-sad smiles greeted the laughing girls, but spirits were lifted. No one realized that in less than 24 hours those same innocent children would die screaming in Churchill's firestorm. But, of course, no one could know that then. The Russians, to be sure, were savages, but at least the Americans and British were "honorable". So when the first alarms signaled the start of 14 hours of hell, Dresden's people streamed dutifully into their shelters. But they did so without much enthusiasm, believing the alarms to be false, since their city had never been threatened from the air. Many would never come out alive, for that "great democratic statesman," Winston Churchill--in collusion with that other "great democratic statesman," Franklin Delano Roosevelt-- had decided that the city of Dresden was to be obliterated by saturation bombing. What were Churchill's motives? They appear to have been political, rather than military. Historians unanimously agree that Dresden had no military value. What industry it did have produced only cigarettes and china. But the Yalta Conference was coming up, in which the Soviets and their Western allies would sit down like ghouls to carve up the shattered corpse of Europe. Churchill wanted a trump card-- a devastating "thunderclap of Anglo-American annihilation"--with which to "impress" Stalin. That card, however, was never played at Yalta, because bad weather delayed the originally scheduled raid. Yet Churchill insisted that the raids be carried out-- to "disrupt and confuse" the German civilian population behind the lines. Dresden's citizens barely had tine to reach their shelters. The first bomb fell at 10:09 p.m. The attack lasted 24 minutes, leaving the inner city a raging sea of fire. "Precision saturation bombing" had created the desired firestorm. A firestorm is caused when hundreds of smaller fires join in one vast conflagration. Huge masses of air are sucked in to feed the inferno, causing an artificial tornado. Those persons unlucky enough to be caught in the rush of wind are hurled down entire streets into the flames. Those who seek refuge underground often suffocate as oxygen is pulled from the air to feed the blaze, or they perish in a blast of white heat-- heat intense enough to melt human flesh. WOMEN AND CHILDREN TARGETED One eye witness who survived told of seeing "young women carrying babies running up and down the streets, their dresses and hair on fire, screaming until they fell down, or the collapsing buildings fell on top of them." There was a three-hour pause between the first and second raids. The lull had been calculated to lure civilians >from their shelters into the open again. To escape the flames, thousands of civilians had crowded into the Grosser Garten, a magnificent park nearly one and a half miles square. The second raid came at 1:22 a.m. with no warning. Twice as many bombers returned with a massive load of incendiary bombs. The second wave was designed to spread the raging firestorm into the Grosser Garten. It was a complete "success." Within a few minutes a sheet of flame ripped across the grass, uprooting trees and littering the branches of others with everything from bicycles to human limbs. For days afterward, they remained bizarrely strewn about as grim reminders of Allied sadism. At the start of the second air assault, many were still huddled in tunnels and cellars, waiting for the fires of the first attack to die down. At 1:30 a.m. an ominous rumble reached the ears of the commander of a Labor Service convoy sent into the city on a rescue mission. He described it this way: "The detonation shook the cellar walls. The sound of the explosions mingled with a new, stranger sound which seemed to come closer and closer, the sound of a thundering waterfall; it was the sound of the mighty tornado howling in the inner city." MELTING HUMAN FLESH Others hiding below ground died. But they died painlessly--they simply glowed bright orange and blue in the darkness. As the heat intensified, they either disintegrated into cinders or melted into a thick liquid--often three or four feet deep in spots. Shortly after 10:30 on the morning of February 14, the last raid swept over the city. American bombers pounded the rubble that had been Dresden for a steady 38 minutes. But this attack was not nearly as heavy as the first two. However, what distinguished this raid was the cold- blooded ruthlessness with which it was carried out. U.S. Mustangs appeared low over the city, strafing anything that moved, including a column of rescue vehicles rushing to the city to evacuate survivors. One assault was aimed at the banks of the Elbe River, where refugees had huddled during the horrible night. In the last year of the war, Dresden had become a hospital town. During the previous night's massacre, heroic nurses had dragged thousands of crippled patients to the Elbe. The low-flying Mustangs machine-gunned those helpless patients, as well as thousands of other old men, women and children who had escaped the city. When the last plane left the sky, Dresden was a scorched ruin, its blackened streets filled with corpses. The city was spared no horror. A flock of vultures escaped from the zoo, and fattened on the carnage. Rats swarmed over the piles of corpses. A Swiss citizen described his visit to Dresden two weeks after the raid: "I could see torn-off arms and legs, mutilated torsos and heads which had been wrenched from their bodies and rolled away. In places the corpses were still lying so densely that I had to clear a path through them in order not to tread on arms and legs." The death toll was staggering. The full extent of the Dresden holocaust can be more readily grasped if one considers that over 250,000--possibly as many as half a million--persons died within a 14-hour period, whereas the dead at Hiroshima numbered only 71,878. Allied apologists for the massacre have often "twinned" Dresden with the English city of Coventry. But the 380 killed in Coventry during the entire war cannot begin to compare with the 250,000-plus slaughtered in 14 hours at Dresden. Moreover, Coventry was a munitions center, a legitimate military target. Dresden on the other hand, produced only china--and cups and saucers can hardly be considered military hardware! It is interesting to further compare the respective damage to London and Dresden, especially when we recall all the Hollywood schmaltz about the "London blitz." In one night, 1,600 acres of land were destroyed in the Dresden massacre. London escaped with damage to only 600 acres during the entire war. In one ironic note, Dresden's only conceivable military target--its railroad yard--was ignored by Allied bombers. They were too busy concentrating on helpless old men, women and children. If there ever was a war crime, then certainly the Dresden Holocaust ranks as the most sordid one of all time. Yet there are no movies made today condemning this fiendish slaughter; nor did any Allied airman--or Sir Winston--sit in the dock at Nuremberg. In fact, the Dresden airmen were actually awarded medals for their role in this mass murder. But, of course, they could not have been tried, because they were "only following orders." This is not to say that the mountains of corpses left in Dresden were ignored by the Nuremberg Tribunal. In one final irony, the prosecution presented photographs of the Dresden dead as "evidence" of alleged National Socialist atrocities against Jewish concentration-camp inmates! Churchill, the monster who ordered the Dresden slaughter, was knighted and the rest of his career is history. The cold-blooded sadism of the massacre, however, is brushed aside by his biographers, who still cannot bring themselves to tell how the desire of one madman to "impress" another one led to the mass murder of up to half million men, women and children. NEW ORDER PO Box 27486-D Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53227 USA [duplicated bbs ad deleted] -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Fri Jul 7 17:26:44 PDT 1995 Article: 5968 of alt.politics.white-power Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!steel.interlog.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: THE REAL HOLOCAUST: Dresden Part 2 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 23:47:05 GMT Lines: 673 [duplicated bbs ad deleted] >From the publishers of HUNTER and THE TURNER DIARIES comes a musical revolution -- DRESDEN'S CALL OF THE BLOOD. (Entire contents copyright (c) 1995 National Vanguard Books. Dresden is Joseph Pryce and Knut Pedersen. 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Order today (cassette #609) from National Vanguard Books Box 330 Hillsboro WV 24946 USA The following is the lyric sheet for this new album: Dedicated to the memory of Ludwig Klages SIDE ONE HORST WESSEL SONG Raise up the flag, and stand as one, together. Our troops will march with steady, iron tread. Though comrades fall, shot down by leftists and Reaction, They march with us in spirit to the fight. Clear off the streets, the Brown Battalion marches! The streets are free--the Brown Battalions rule. The sacred flag brings hope to our oppressed millions; The day for freedom and for bread is here. At last the call to struggle rings out loudly-- And we're prepared: we storm into the fight! As Hitler's flag is waving proudly in the bright skies, Our slavery ends forever in this land! GEORGE LINCOLN ROCKWELL Heart sublime and will so pure, Since your passing we are sure That you light the way To a shining day. So much courage in your heart. Gave your life that truth might start On her stellar quest. George, you passed the test. What makes a man give his life for his race? They'd have us vanish from Earth without trace, But you wait in the wings for the moment of our call. GLR, now the tide is advancing, But we'll all hold the line And rise as one, in the sun. GLR, spare us some of your spirit, For our victory is nigh, And you are here, like a god. George Lincoln Rockwell, come back and save us.... AVATAR (Adolf Hitler) Aryan Sun, shine down on the land; >From icy mountains to margin of sand. We've dreamed a dream of what must be-- So open your mind and heaven you'll see. One people, one blood-community In roaring forests and on the sea; The warrior's oath, the mother's smile-- Soft winds on meadows, mile by mile. And He is there, behind it all: Purest Idea, commanding Call. The fire of His Mind, the blazing eyes, Gift of the Gods, from bluest skies. Aryan Sun, shine down on the land; >From icy mountains to margin of sand. We've dreamed a dream of what must be-- So open your mind, His heaven you'll see.... ARIADNE(1) IN AMERICA Jefferson, John C. Calhoun: where did you go, wherever did you go? Washington, and Franklin too, where did you go, wherever did you go? America, I miss you, miss you: I want to come back home. America, I need to see you, I need to come back home. Edgar Poe and Mencken, love you so, I wanted you to know. Ambrose Bierce, and Dr. Pierce--love you so, I wanted you to know. Arya, Arya, Savitri Devi, Shine like a star.... Get the monkey who's paid to sing, to get a monkey to bear the ring(2); Get the stars 'cause they're sure to bring cash to ransom a captured king. Do you have no shame? Who will take the blame? It's the aliens' turn to be driven into the foaming sea. We will rise and we'll do much more, 'til we're victors from shore to shore. Then we'll stage some trials. Gibbets(3) stretch for miles. America, I miss you.... TO ROBERT MATHEWS IN VALHALLA We're on the march today to Whidbey Island; we've found a reason to live today, on Whidbey Island. Maybe, now we know just why this young man had to die. He saw the gleaming dawn; he asked the question. We follow him where he's led, O Northern Bastion. Our people must not die; we'll never live a lie. We've built our fires tonight on Whidbey Island. The flames will rise and rise from Whidbey Island. And then the world will know, how from a spark the flames will grow. O Whidbey Island. ZOG(4)/BLOOD AND SOIL Slay, slay the dragon: go, go for, go for the throat. ZOG has me in its power walking on the brink. ZOG tells me what to do and everything I think. ZOG--I awake at night and ZOG is at the door; ZOG--I would free myself, I'm living like a whore. How can you live with this evil? The tune's been called by the devil. How fares your soul, little citizen? Get off your knees, little citizen! ZOG--I'm awake and yet I'm walking in my sleep. ZOG--There's a precipice my steps now seem to seek. ZOG--Turn around there is a monster just behind. ZOG--And he's tearing out my will, my heart, my mind. For blood and for soil, we will work, we will toil; Heaven is born on the Earth. The heroes arise as we shout to the skies: We will now have our rebirth! DESOLATION ROW (To Robert Miles) You see the smiles you see the bright eyes You hear the laughter reach up to the skies For though we are down, we're not defeated On Desolation Row And as we stand by the fire, We watch the flames mounting ever higher And if you steel your heart The world will mark its change Every element rearrange. Though we must all suffer fools, Yet we must never suffer gladly And if you cannot stand with us, Then stand aside--the gates of paradise open wide.... Gods tumble down as the new world reveals its visage And though the flowers droop sometimes, we soothe our minds When winter comes, spring is close behind. Let the old fools make their deals. Let the old world prepare its exit. We're waiting in the wings right now to show you how A real live Hamlet can take a bow. DARK QUEEN Chill winds in the winterland; Blue ice, red fire. Dark queen of my decadence, quench my desire. CALL OF THE BLOOD Though you walk by the sea of oblivion, keep your eyes on the temples of light. Bear your torch high in front of the wavering crowd. In your hands is the doom of the night. For many are called, but so few are chosen; you must find the gods you have lost, or never found. Too many have wandered afar from the Northland, you must heed the Call of the Blood. What my eyes witness now in a prostrate world calls new strength to the Call of the Blood. Nordic honor and dignity flee the Dark, and we're menaced by uprising floods. Close the ranks, day is dawning throughout the land; the invisible web is now thrown. Seize the monsters and drive them back whence they came, To the womb of the Eternal Unknown. NOTES: 1. Ariadne: In Greek mythology, the daughter of Minos and Pasiphae, who gave Theseus the thread by which he found his way out of the Labyrinth. 2. Michael Jackson at Elizabeth Taylor's wedding. 3. A reference to The Day of the Rope. See the novel The Turner Diaries available from National Vanguard Books. 4. "Zionist Occupation Government" Original cover painting by Alfred Sundvall SIDE TWO THE STORMER (Julius Streicher(1)) Take the mask off, let's see what is inside. Plastic demon(2), let's see what you would hide. Manila envelope comes to my door, watching me, watching me crawl on the floor. Juli can tell me the truth if I want, and he'll perform any trick, any stunt. I won't trust any old fox on the heath; I won't give dirty DSJs(3) my seat. I wouldn't trust Mr. Suess on his oath: Juli has told me, "Watch out for them both!" ARYANS: We know we fear you, you tell me-- KIKES: Impossible! ARYANS: We would avoid you, you tell me-- KIKES: Impossible! ARYANS: Can we avoid you? You tell me-- KIKES: Impossible! ARYANS: But we'll destroy you and then you must-- Juli, they beat you(4), they f---ed with your pride. Moulies abused you with mouths opened wide. Yet you returned in a plain-paper bag, taller and whiter than Snow-covered crag. LANDSBERG AM LECH A four and a half year struggle against lies, stupidity, and cowardice.(5) A reckoning. (Who's afraid of Mr. Wolf? Who's afraid to wage a war?) NOW WILL OUR FOLK BE FREE Instauration... meditation... Aryan nation... When will our folk be free? Dragon boats sail... enemies pale... Victory hail... Dragon boats sail... Soon will our Folk be free. In the Northland... We will gather... evolution... near the glaciers... Now will our Gods be free. TRYST (Danger in Central Park) As they strolled through the park near the flashing of the fountains, the full moon shed its light on the lovers as they walked. Sweet was the nighttime to the dreamers; warm is the feeling of new love. But there's a shadow moving swiftly through the darkness-- And they are not protected, and they won't see the day. Danger in Central Park, Zooland, USA, where the primates kill and feast each and every day. Sad, o so sad, but no one complains; Bad, very bad, they should all be in chains. There's the crunch of the leaves as the killer moves in closer; but they don't seem to hear as he moves toward their tryst. Sweet was the nighttime to the dreamers; warm is the gushing of their blood. Stranger, you must shed a tear for our poor lovers-- For they were not protected, and did not see the day.... THE PARTY SONG Big belly bourgeois he sends me my check And if he don't I will narrow his neck For I have emerged in the land of the free With dope for your kids and much money for me I'll never go--I'm nailed down you know I'll stay 'til the trumpets of doom. Your streets are gold; they're bought and they're sold; Get out of my way, just make room! I like to party in de daytime I like to party in de nighttime When I wake up I say as I start the new day "I'm so glad that I came to America!" The living is free and my family's with me I'm so glad that I'll never go home. "Give me your lazy, your botched, and your whores"-- That's what you say as we land on your shores. You are a milk-cow with millions of teats We got the mouths and we sure got the wits. We'll never go--we're nailed down you know; We'll stay in these well-furnished rooms. Your streets are gold, they're bought and they're sold; Get out of our way; we're your doom! THRENODY (to The Leader) Walking on a road of fate with head held high We've another sorrow. And since his flame of life was quenched we dread the day-- Dread each sad tomorrow. So in the dark we huddle close in friendship's glow, Guardians of the Order. And those who rave and fume like monsters in the gloom Will receive no quarter. What are we coming to? What did he ask of you?--of me? Now, it is a darkling time And it's late, very late, very late. Pass into a cosmic circle of fate Not too late, not too late, For those who train their questing souls for the Day. And as we gather in the sacred little rooms We are in His presence. We chant the chants and feel the roar of Viking blood Gathered from His essence. For we must halt the steep decline of humankind. Raise the banner high! We believe that we will fight the final fight Under Nordic skies. TOYS (George's Weapons) (They called George Bush a sissy, so to increase his popularity ratings and to please his Jewish masters, he rained fire down upon the people of Iraq.) WHITE AMERIKA I dream of White Amerika, aglow with strength and beauty, Where children ramble unafraid and free. Our women bring forth noble sons to build a world of glory. And daughters weave their magic spells. One day.... I want to live in a White Amerika I'll find my fate in a White Imperium. Smash the system-- Off with their heads. HORST WESSEL SONG(6) (reprise) Raise up the flag, and stand as one, together. Our troops will march with steady, iron tread. Though comrades fall, shot down by leftists and Reaction, They march with us in spirit to the fight. Clear off the streets, the Brown Battalion marches! The streets are free--the Brown Battalions rule. The sacred flag brings hope to our oppressed millions; The day for freedom and for bread is here. At last the call to struggle rings out loudly-- And we're prepared: we storm into the fight! As Hitler's flag is waving proudly in the bright skies, Our slavery ends forever in this land! NOTES: 1. National Socialist official and publisher, ritually murdered for his writings by Jews in 1946. 2. Composer Richard Wagner's term for the Jew. 3. "Department Store Jewess"--a term used in Mein Kampf. 4. Streicher was tortured by Negroes at Nuremberg. 5. This sentence was the original title of Mein Kampf. 6. Horst Wessel was an early martyr of National Socialism, and this song, here paraphrased in English by Joseph Pryce, was the anthem of the Hitler movement. These songs are done with care and beauty and remind me of that most Aryan of rock groups, the Moody Blues, though with a harder edge. This is far more sophisticated music, both technically and compositionally, than most pro-White music. Order cassette #609 from National Vanguard Books, Box 330, Hillsboro WV 24946 USA. $9.95 plus $1.50 postage and handling. --Kevin Strom [duplicated bbs ad deleted] -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Fri Jul 7 17:26:57 PDT 1995 Article: 5969 of alt.politics.white-power Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!steel.interlog.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: THE REAL HOLOCAUST: Dresden Part 3 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 23:49:54 GMT Lines: 686 [duplicated bbs ad deleted] HOLOCAUST AT DRESDEN By George Fowler (from The Barnes Review) A half century has passed since february 13-14, 1945. Overnight, one of europe's great meccas of art and culture, a city that had become a hospital center for german, american and british wounded, that housed many thousand allied prisoners of war, and that had become a haven to refugees fleeing the red army, was bombed into oblivion. But the perpetrators of one of history's great outrages were to receive the laurels of glorious victory rather than a place in the war crimes dock. Part 1 - PRELUDE TO HOLOCAUST After nearly three years of unremitting Allied air offensives against Germany's civilian population, plans for the destruction of the open city of Dresden, incinerating at least 135,000 people, took shape on March 30, l942. However the seeds of such inhuman hate had long since found fertile soil at 10 Downing Street and within the White House. On the above date Prof. F.A. Lindemann, later, Lord Cherwell, the Prime Minister's Science Advisor and a jewish refugee from Germany, delivered to Winston Churchill a fateful report. In his book BOMBER COMMAND Max Hastings stated that "Cherwell's Report provided the final rationalization for the program Bomber Command was undertaking, and it would henceforth be paper-clipped to the plans of the bomber offensive." Lindemann estimated that every 40 tons of bombs "dropped on built-up areas" would "make 4,000 to 8,000 people homeless." This report to the PM stated: "In l938 over 22 million Germans lived in 58 towns of over 100,000 inhabitants, which, with modern equipment, should be easy to find and hit." Hastings concluded that Lindemann "Hoped to create a nation of refugees, and no doubt also a good many corpses under the rubble, although he was too genteel to say so." There were of course discussions and disagreements regarding strategic and tactical approaches to the bombing of Germany. But Lindermann's report is considered the basic text behind the wholesale bombing of civilian targets. Prior to the report's dispatch to Churchill, a February 143, l942 Air Ministry directive to Bomber Command from Air Vice Marshal Sir Norman Bottomly contained the following Valentine's Day message: "You are accordingly authorized to employ your forces without restriction . . . (operations) should now be focused on the moral of the enemy civil population and in particular, of the industrial workers." On February 22, while Churchill was staying at the White House, it was decided that Air Marshal Arthur Harris would leave his post as the head of the RAF delegation in Washington (an assignment he had held in neutral America beginning June 12, l941) to head Bomber Command. This fateful reassignment would team Harris with a PM of kindred instincts in one of Western history's most costly and ghastly undertakings. The first chapters of World War II, from Germany's Sept. 3, l939 invasion of Poland to the May-June l940 clash in the West when France capitulated and Britain was driven from the continent, saw a scarcity of bombing by the belligerents. This was largely the period of "Sitzkreig" and "Bore War"during which Germany's bombing of Warsaw prior to Poland's surrender marked the only major incident: a relatively moderate attack that proved costly to Germany on the propaganda front. Throughout the l939-40 months of frontal stalemate in the West, Hitler didn't order the Luftwaffe to bomb Britain (while working continually for a negotiated peace with London that would allow him to concentrate on his plan for land acquisition in the East and the destruction of Bolshevism's Soviet bastion). The Royal Air Force confined its activities to the dropping of propaganda leaflets. The bombing of the open city of Freiburg-imBreigeu on May 10, l940, killed 22 children, 13 women, 11 men and 11 soldiers. Whether the bombers were French, British or even German has never been determined but the civilians killed and the property destroyed were real and gave Propaganda Minister Josef Goebbels grist to promise that the Luftwaffe would answer the destruction "in a like manner." Four days later the Germans bombed Rotterdam. From northern German airfields some 100 Heinkel III bombers were poised to attack remaining resistance zones in the city. However, surrender negotiations with the Dutch government were in progress. The raid, planned for 1500 hrs. (3 pm), was ordered postponed after takeoff on a flight of about 100 minutes to target areas. The Dutch government had been stalling during negotiating session. German terms were finally agreed to five minutes before the time set for the attack. But the recall could not be signaled to those bombers that had crossed the Netherlands border. At that point they had reeled in their trailing aerials allowing long range reception. A swift fighter was dispatched to head off the bombers, and from a German panzer position on the ground at Rotterdam, where the mission-scrub signal had been received, signal flares were fired to ward off an attack that began just as the flares went up. The signal was received in time to disengage 40 of the Heinkels. The city's main water supply system was hit, and considerable fire ensued in one area (no incendiaries were dropped) due largely to hits on a margarine plant from which streams of burning oil flowed. In l9l2 the Rotterdam government released figures showing that 980 people had been killed in the raid. The considerable devastation in the city gave Allied propagandists a field day, and Rotterdam became the greatest war atrocity story since Japan's "Rape of Nanking" in the l930s. In his l963 book THE DESTRUCTION OF DRESDEN David Irving noted that "Ninety four tons of bombs had been dropped . . . By comparison, close to 9,000 tons of high explosives and incendiaries were dropped on the inland Ruhr port of Duisburg during the triple blow of 14th October l944." With Germany's bombing of Britain following France's surrender, strategic targets were singled out and hit with a high degree of accuracy. But on the night of August 24, l940 (the main London targets being the vital East End dock-shipping-industrial areas), the target was the oil storage depot at Thames Haven. A navigational error led to the bombing of parts of the East End, the City and St. Giles. The bombing of central London drew the immediate retaliatory response of the Royal Air Force. The following night it bombed Berlin, with slight effect. This enraged Hitler, who issued a command that may have cost Germany victory. He ordered that the Luftwaffe switch its attacks to London and away from RAF installations and radar sites. This allowed the severely depleted Fighter Command a short but much needed period to regroup. The Luftwaffe's incredibly costly (most particularly in terms of seasoned pilots and crew) London "Blitz" is dated from September 7, l940 to May 16, l94l. Luftwaffe figures show that throughout this period 24,177 tons of bombs were dropped during 71 major attacks on London and other areas of industrial concentration, such as Hull, Liverpool and Manchester. The British calculated that, by the end of l940, 13,399 Britons had been killed in raids. The German raid ranking with Rotterdam in terms of propaganda value was the bombing of Coventry in November, l940. In bombing this industrial city Coventry's Cathedral was nearly demolished. Pictures of its ruins filled America's newspapers and newsreel screens. In his l975 book THE FIRST CASUALTY (the title evidently taken from U.S. Sen. Hiram Johnson's 1917 observation that "The first casualty, when war comes, is truth."). Philip Knoghtly noted that the LONDON TIMES editorialized on the "butchery at Coventry . . . The wanton slaughter by a people pretending to be civilized who, it would seem, kill mostly for the joy of destroying." Of this Knightly wrote: "Coventry was actually a legitimate military target, one of the keys to the British war effort" containing such plants as the Standard Motor Co., the British Piston Ring Co., and Kaimler motor works and Alvis aero-engine factory. The British had known of Germany's intent to bomb Coventry due to an early intercept of Germany's ENIGMA code system by way or its ULTRA codebreaking device. But Churchill vetoed interception of the Luftwaffe attack for fear that it would tip the Germans to the fact that their main code had been broken. Thus Coventry entailed a double deception on the part of the British. But this did not deter Churchill from ordering "Operation Rachel." This was the codename for the December 12, l940 Bomber Command attack on Mannheim. On the PM's direct order it was to be a reprisal for the considerable damage done to Coventry and the first occasion in the relatively brief annals of air warfare that an entire city was to be the deliberate target of attack. Britain had began the war with a somewhat antiquated bomber capacity. But by l942 and with America's full material support, Bomber Command was a formidable force. In the spring of l942 Harris sold Churchill the Chief of Air Staff Sir Charles Portal on a 1,000-plane raid. Stretching all human and material resources, l,047 planes, largely with inexperienced crews were gathered. When Churchill and Harris discussed potential casualties, the PM said he was prepared for the loss of 100 planes. Hamburg, Germany's second largest city, was to be the target. But weather conditions dictated a switch to the secondary target and Germany's third largest city, Cologne. The raid was carried out May 30 and it was a success. The city along the Rhine burned deep red well into the sky, the great Cathedral's twin spires (one of which would subsequently be destroyed) clear silhouettes to the airmen above. The raid had wrought instant devastation unequaled since biblical lore. Over 12,000 structures had been totally or partially destroyed, with 45,000 people left homeless. Remarkably, only 496 dead were counted. The water, power gas and telephone complexes were in shambles and 36 factories were destroyed, 70 more badly damaged. Bomber command was delighted at the loss of only 40 aircraft. Max Hastings noted in BOMBER COMMAND that "It was a mere token of the destruction Bomber Command would achieve in l942 and 1943 . . ." In the latter months of l942 U.S. Army Air Corps B-17s and B-25 Liberators began limited daylight operations against targets in France and Germany. The Air Corps' top brass under Gen. H.H. "Hap" Arnold, in conjunction with Bomber Command's leaders were using for an all-out campaign of U.S.-daylight/RAF-night operations. The American airmen had an added incentive. They wanted the postwar establishment of a separate armed service co-equal with the Army and Navy. The bomber offensive was their prime opportunity so show what they could do, and it would lead to many an unnecessary but destructive mission. The efforts of the Air Corps-Bomber command lobbying were fully rewarded at the Roosevelt-Churchill Casablanca conference in January, l943. A Casablanca directive read: "Your primary aim will be the progressive destruction and dislocation of the German military, industrial and economic system, and the undermining of the moral of the German people to the point where their capacity for armed resistance is fatally weakened . . . " Following Casablanca, America's bomber presence escalated markedly, with USAAF (U.S. Army Air Force) fields increasingly dotting the fields of eastern England. The stage was fully set for one of history's darkest dramas, and one that would place gold stars signifying a family member killed in action in the front windows of tens of thousands of American homes. The physical punch to achieve what "Bomber" Harris had envisioned was now in place. Max Hastings wrote: "Long before Casablanca, or even before Cologne, Harris had conceived his campaign for the systematic laying-waste of Germany's cities, and he never had the slightest intention of being deflected from it." In the summer of l943 Bomber Command was to unleash its most lethal strike of the war save for Dresden, and it would provide the first major instance of British and American public doubt and criticism. Although Hamburg had "weathered" Harris's initial 1000-plane raid, it would be visited in a manner that can only be recalled as a determined atrocity. In BOMBER HARRIS author Dudly Saward states that the obliteration of Hamburg, "which went by the ominous code name of 'Gomorrah,' was planned to take place over a period of four nights." Before his crews took off on the first assault the night of July 24-25, Harris told them: "The Battle of Hamburg cannot be won in a single night. It is estimated that 10,000 tons of bombs will have to be dropped to complete the process of elimination. To achieve the maximum effect of air bombardment this city should be subjected to sustained attack. On the first attack a large number of incendiaries are to be carried in order to saturate the fire service." Few could misunderstand these words or the intent behind them. This was not a surgical or even carpet bombing strike against military or industrial targets. Clearly, this was the premeditated murder of a city and its people. In the series of four Hamburg raids, July 24 to August 3, Bomber Command dropped 8,621 tons of bombs on the city, 4,309 tons being incendiaries. Eighth Air Force B-17s dropped 771 tons of explosives during the third raid. Initial deaths were estimated at 41,800, but many thousands more died subsequently or were never counted due to incineration, burial beneath rubble or having been blown to bits. The four-raid total may have equaled Great Britain's official total losses for the war of 41,509, THE BOMBER COMMAND DIARIES, published in l985 by Penguin Books, London, states that the August 2-3 raid largely failed due to thunder-storms. Thus most of the destruction was wrought in three raids. In THE DESTRUCTION OF DRESDEN Irving wrote that "When rescue teams finally cleared their way into hermetically sealed bunkers and shelters, after several weeks, the heat generated inside had been so intense that nothing remained of their occupants: only a soft undulating layer of gray ash was left in one bunker, from which the number of victims could only be estimated as 'between 250 and 300'..." Despite the highly restrictive censorship regulations applied to Allied war correspondents (already deemed supportive of the Allied cause as a condition of clearance) fairly large bits and pieces of what the bomber offense was about leaked to some prominent civilian figures. In England, among the most telling critics were the country's two premier military historians, Maj. Gen. J.F.C. Fuller and Captain Basil Liddell Hart. In August, l943 Fuller drafted an article (evidently not published) the LONDON EVENING STANDARD in which he stated: "The worst devastation of the Goths, Vandals, Huns, Seljuks and Mongols pales into insignificance when compared to the material and moral damage now wrought . . ." Following the thousand-plane Cologne raid Hard drafted a private "reflection" that observed: "It will be ironical if the defenders of civilization depend for victory upon the most barbaric, and unskilled, way of winning a war that the modern world had seen . . . We are not counting for victory on success in the way of degrading it to a new low level . . ." As stated in THE ARMY AIR FORCES IN WORLD WAR II, plans were drawn up in early June, l944 to define the post-D-Day invasion bomber campaign. The recommended priorities to both Bomber Command and the U.S. 8th and 15th Air Force (in Italy) were, in order of priority, oil production, jet and V-weapons, ball bearing plants and tank factories. As Supreme Allied Commander, Dwight D. Eisenhower left both the American commanders (Gens. Spaatz and Doolittle) and Harris free to develop independently their strategic bombing campaigns as they saw fit. It was clearly an opportunity to curtail Harris's incredible excesses. But Eisenhower, essentially a high political functionary in uniform, based higher decisions on the wishers of the President and the Prime Minister. On the scorched road to Dresden there were many occurrences similar to what happened at Hamburg. THE BOMBER COMMAND DIARIES, for the city of Darmstadt on the night of September 11-12, l944, tell that 226 Lancasters and 14 Mosquitoes (light bombers, the four-engine Lancaster being Bomber Command's equivalent of the B-17), produced an outstandingly accurate and concentrated raid on this almost intact city of 120,000 people. A fierce fire area was created in the center and in the districts immediately south and east of the center. Property damage in this area was almost complete. Casualties were very heavy. The deaths of 8,433 people were actually reported to police stations. This figure was made up of: German civilians--1,766 men, 2,743 women and 2,129 children, 936 service personnel, 492 foreign workers and 368 prisoners of war." The United States Strategic Bombing survey, compiled after the war, concluded that deaths in Darmstadt that night may have exceeded the RAF figures (taken from initial German figures) by 5,000 because all deaths were not reported by the 49,200 made homeless by the raid and evacuated from the city. Today, the city of Darmstadt has final figures of 12,300 dead and 70,000 homeless. PART TWO: The Infernal Firestorm-- A Glimpse of Hell Thus a long pattern of operational intent, in which everything on German soil that stood, moved or breathed was considered a legitimate recipient of the bomb bay payloads, had been established long before it became Dresden's turn. To begin with, the city was not an industrial center of even moderate importance. It had been bombed once, some 20 USAAF planes hitting with considerable accuracy the city's small industrial area as a secondary target at midday on October 7, l944 during an attack on the Ruhland oil refinery. This raid was at least consistent with both the publicly stated purpose and propaganda regarding the bombing campaign, in that it was a basically surgical strike against valid targets. The essence of pre-holocaust Dresden was described in David Irving's book: "Not endowed with any one great capital industry like those of Essen and Hamburg, even though Dresden was of comparable size, the city's economy had been sustained in peacetime by its theaters, museums, cultural institutions and home industries." Irving noted that "for the British prisoners of war . . . life could not easily be bettered. The Dresdeners were familiar with the English from pre-war days, when the city had been a cultural center, and many made friends among the prisoners--a large section of which were from 1st Airborne Division contingent captured at Arnhem." The factor of pre-war English familiarity with Dresden, generations of students having visited it on the Grand Tour, would play a major part in the raid's aftermath. Dresden's fate had been sealed at the February 4-11, l945 FDR-Churchill-Stalin conference at Yalta. Reports about the Dresden decision center on Stalin's desire to see it savaged as a means of enhancing the Red Army's offensive by jamming up German troop movements. U.S. Chief of Staff George C. Marshall announced publicly that Dresden had been attacked at Stalin's specific request, although after the war the Soviets and East Germans repeatedly referred to the raid as a "diabolical plan" of Churchill's "to kill as many people as possible." Roosevelt and Churchill were of course well aware of Dresden's particulars, including the fact that it was a hospital, prisoner of war and, now, refugee center. The concession was allegedly made to soothe the increasingly arrogant and intransigent Kremlin dictator. But given the fact that at Yalta Stalin achieved control over Eastern Europe, in-effect control of Mongolia, Japan's Kurile Islands, and occupation zone in Korea and a guarantee of $20 billion in eventual German reparations, one might have thought that the bear had been amply fed. After Yalta and the war, Churchill of course went into his "deeply suspicious of Stalin" act just as he had feigned surprise at FDR's unconditional surrender announcement at Casablanca. However, just before flying from Russia on February 14, at the very moment of Dresden's awesome trauma, he lauded his hosts' "great leader." And the ever theatrical PM, who certainly ranked with fellow dipsomaniac thespians John Barrymore and Richard Burton, lauded "The redeemed Crimea, cleansed by Russian valor from the foul taint of the Huns." Dresden had once been a pivotal communications and rail center important to the Wehrmacht. But as Irving notes, by the time it received its fatal blow, "The city's strategic significance was scarcely marginal . . . " it was home to 630,000 permanent residents, its numbers swelled by German and Allied wounded, Allied POWs and hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing areas in the path of the Red Army's advance. The city's authorities were convinced that a non strategic city with a large number of military hospitals, POW compounds, etc., would not receive anything approaching the annihilative smashing so many other cities and towns had undergone. Therefore most of the air defense and flak batteries that would otherwise be in Dresden were transferred to areas where it was assumed they'd be needed. In THE BOMBER COMMAND WAR DIARIES the basic facts of the February 13-14 Dresden raids were recounted: "796 Lancasters and 9 Mosquitoes were dispatched in two separate raids and dropped 1,478 tons of high explosives and 1,182 tons of incendiary bombs . . . 311 American B-17s dropped 771 tons of bombs on Dresden the next day, with the railway yards as their aiming point. Part of the American Mustang (P-51) fighter escort was ordered to strafe traffic on the roads around Dresden to increase the chaos. The Americans bombed Dresden again on the 15th and on March 2 but it was generally accepted that it was the RAF night raid which caused the most serious damage." Of the American strafing Irving noted: "British prisoners who had been released from their burning camps were among those to suffer the discomfort of machine gun attacks . . . Wherever columns of tramping people were marching in or out of the city they were pounced on by the fighters, and machine-gunned or raked with cannon fire." On February 12 the last pre-attack refugee train had pulled into Dresden. People continued to flow into the city from the East, in foot or packed into horse drawn carts. Dresden had not been declared an open city, but few who would attempt to justify its devastation could deny its in-effect status as such. One RAF Flight Engineer recalled that the brightness of the fires below allowed him to fill in his log sheet by the light that shot skyward. A crewman of another plane wrote: "I confess to taking a glance downward as the bombs fell, and I witnessed the shocking sight of a city on fire from end to end. Dense smoke could be seen drifting away from Dresden, leaving a brilliantly illuminated view of the town. My immediate reaction was a stunned reflection on the comparison between the holocaust below and the warnings of the evangelists in Gospel meetings before the war." David Irving noted that "In many cases during the night raids, people, finding that dense suffocating fumes from above were rolling down into the unventilated basements, broke down the wall breaches. Thus the smoke had access to the next-door cellars as well." One survivor wrote: "The detonations shook the cellar walls. The sound of the explosives mixed with a new, strange sound, which seemed to come closer and closer, the sound of a thundering waterfall; it was the sound of the mighty tornado howling into the inner city." Retired Major James "Knobby" Walsh was an Army Air Corps bombardier in WWII and is a subscriber THE BARNES REVIEW. He forwarded the following passage from Edward Jablonski's AIR WAR--WINGS OF FIRE (Doubleday & Co.): "The horror and the terror on the ground was incredible, destruction was extensive, and the loss of life was frightful. The beautiful little city, its population swollen by an influx of refugees from the east fleeing before the Russians bent on revenge, pillage and rape, and its predominantly wooden buildings, ideal for incendiaries, all but vanished in a howling whirlwind of incineration. Although it is unlikely that the true toll will ever be known, the number of people probably killed at Dresden was about 135,000 (as compared with the atomic bombing of Hiroshima, which killed 71,379)." In the l966 book ORDEAL BY FIRE author Roul Tunley described the Dresden experience of an American woman from New Jersey, Anne Wahle, who had gone to prewar Europe as the wife of an Austrian diplomat. She had survived the Hamburg raids and she and her three children would eventually walk and ride hundreds of miles from Dresden to safety. She recalled: "I had never seen anything like it. Howling gusts of hurricane force whipped flames in all directions. Nothing seemed to be spared. I watched little trains of flame race along garden paths and ignite a tree of even a stone ornament." In THE FIRST CASUALTY Knightly wrote: "The flames ate everything organic, everything that would burn. People died by the thousands: cooked, incinerated or suffocated. Then American planes came the next day to machine-gun survivors as they struggled to the banks of the Elbe." Knightly added that "Precise casualty figures will never be known. The German authorities stopped counting when the known dead reached 25,000 and 35,000 were still missing. Some post-war sources put the number of dead at from 100,000 to 130,000, which would greatly exceed the number killed in the atom-bombing of Hiroshima . . . Dresden was merely a staging center for a half million refugees >from Silesia. The (rail) yards were not even attacked. There were no ammunition workshops and factories, only a small works making optical lenses for gun sights." PART THREE: Aftermath: Coverups and Lies The horror extended well into the aftermath, with countless thousands lacking a bare subsistence food ration in addition to adequate winter shelter. Tens of thousands with various degrees of burns and other injuries went unattended. Dresden had 19 major hospitals, all of them damaged to some degree during the raids and three of them totally wiped out. As the Allied air brass knew, Dresden was a center for convalescing Wehrmacht personnel from all fronts as well as for Allied wounded, a large number of them airmen. Fully realizing the extent of the destruction and the circumstances under which it was meted out, London moved to cover its position even before the follow-up American raid. At 9 am on February 14 the Air Ministry released a full-length bulletin. Irving wrote: "In a statement describing the target city in unusual detail, the Air Ministry stressed the vital importance of Dresden to the enemy: As the center of a railway network and as a great industrial town it had become of the greatest value for controlling the German defenses against Marshal Koniev's Armies." Knightly pointed out that Ministry of Defense records show that no war correspondents flew with the bombers, and that there were no eyewitness accounts save for "a few air crews interviewed on their return, and they were given various concocted explanations as to why they were bombing the city--they were attacking German army headquarters, destroying an arms dump, knocking out an industrial area, or even 'wiping out a large poison gas plant." >From THE FIRST CASUALTY: "The truth first came out in Sweden. At 10:15 am on February 15 a Swedish news bulletin transmitted in Danish to occupied Denmark said that the death toll in Dresden was already between 20,000 and 35,000." Then newspapers in neutral countries began printing stories of the raid. On February 17, the Associated Press reported throughout America: "Allied air chiefs have made the long awaited decision to adopt deliberate terror bombing of German population centers as a ruthless expedient of hastening Hitler's doom." Despite the incredible chronological inaccuracy of the "long-awaited decision," the Dresden story, basically was out. But British censors placed a solid clamp on the true nature of Dresden. They fed the Fleet Street press the official "major strategic target" line. Thus following the raid, readers of the EVENING STANDARD read the lead story, under the headline "The Blasting of Dresden" and accompanied by a front page picture of bombs dropping on indistinguishable targets, without learning anything the government wished withheld. In America, however, millions registered feelings of rage, disillusion and concern Marshall's statement that the raid was staged at Stalin's request set off some anti-administration sentiments in Congress. But overall, Roosevelt's bitter enemies were wary of exposing themselves to accusations of criticism during wartime, a factor that had severely curtailed the Dewey-Rricker Republican ticket in 1944 when FDR won his fourth term. In volume three of THE ARMY AIR FORCES IN WORLD WAR 88, published by the University of Chicago press, it was stated that "General Arnold was disconcerted about the publicity" that the AP story had generated and that "Eisenhower heard all about the issue, and AAF headquarters, aware of the damaging impression the recent publicity had made, took steps to prevent another break." England's Fleet Street blackout did not prevent members of Parliament from becoming privy to Dresden's slaughter. Many MP, especially those who had fond memories of the city, reacted with outrage. Churchill, the holocaust's ultimate button-pusher, became the target of considerable friendly fire. In BOMBER HARRIS Seaward noted that 'The whole question of the Allied bombing policy suddenly came under question." In March, Churchill wrote the Chiefs of Staff: "Lit seems to me that the moment has come when the question of bombing the German cities simply for the sake of increasing the terror, though under other pretexts, should be reviewed." Saward found it amazing that "Churchill, of all people" would reach this conclusion in the wake of severe criticism. He noted that the PM "had been the greatest proponent of destroying Germany city by city . . ." Few today realize that in early l945 the U.S. carried out from England six robot missions of B-17s, each loaded with 10 tons of explosives. The planes were "war weary" craft that had been stripped of armor and armament. Pilots got the drone bombers airborne and pointed toward their German targets, then bailed out. None had been successful in hitting specific targets, and the project was scrapped due to British objections. Air Chief Marshal Sir Charles Portal had expressed fears that the Germans, with a great number of planes but few surviving pilots, would be tempted to reply in kind. As to the German V-1 and V-2 rocket bombs that fell on England in l944, few dispute that they were aimed at strategic targets but that there were a large number of civil casualties. Following the war, involved American and British air commanders would fudge and rationalize the years of day-night civilian slaughter. A B-17 navigator, now a lawyer in Northern Virginia, recalls that in raiding Munich their PMI (Point of Maximum Impact) target was the large fountain in the center of the city's business district at high noon, "in order that we could catch the most people out at lunchtime." But "Bomber" Harris remained unmoved by the slaughter, devastation of cultural landmarks and public criticism. The Cromwellian commander raged against any diversions of Bomber Command's mission. In a March 29, l945 letter to Air Vice Marshal Sir Norman Bottomly, Harris wrote: "The (public) feeling, such as there is, over Dresden could easily be explained by a psychiatrist. It is connected with German bands and Dresden shepherdesses." And in writing Bottomry, a man who knew all the grim details of the Dresden reality, Harris prompted the question of who might better benefit >from the ministrations of a psychiatrist: "Actually Dresden was a mass of munitions works, and intact government center, and a key transportation point to the Least. It is now none of these." Writing of Harris after the war, the compilers of the official British history of WWII wrote: "Sir Arthur Harris made a habit of seeing only one side of a question, and then exaggerating it. He had a tendency to confuse advice with interference, criticism with sabotage and evidence with propaganda. However, Harris was seen quite differently by America's two most celebrated figures of that period. In a July 13, l945 letter that went well beyond cordial recognition, Supreme Allied Commander Dwight D. Eisenhower wrote Harris: "My gratitude to you is a small token for the magnificent service which you have rendered, and my simple expression of thanks sounds totally inadequate. Time and opportunity prohibit the chance I should like to shake you and your men by the hand, and thank each of you personally for all that you have done." On October 17, 1944 Harris had been awarded America's Legion of Merit with the degree of Chief Commander. The citation concluded: "He performed his complex task with inspiring leadership and with outstanding cooperation, skill and determination, reflecting great credit upon the service he represents and upon the Armed forces of the United Nations. (Signed) Franklin D. Roosevelt." And of the long and terrible bombing offensive that emanated from Cherwell and Churchill, and that cost 50,000 American and 55,000 British and Commonwealth lives, Max Hastings observed: "It is almost beyond belief that the German army continued to resist so effectively even amidst the rubble of a nation. The Wehrmacht's dogged retreat, and the continued output from the factories until the final weeks, rendered the concept of moral bombing finally absurd." As with Cromwell in Ireland and Roberts and Kitchener in South Africa, Sir Arthur Harris had broken their walls. But he had not broken their courage. ------------------- This was from The Barnes Review 130 Third Street, SE Washington, DC 20003 1-714-548=5530 "...To Bring History into Accord With the Facts" In the tradition of the Father of Historical Revisionism Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes [duplicated bbs ad deleted] -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Fri Jul 7 17:27:01 PDT 1995 Article: 5970 of alt.politics.white-power Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!panix!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!steel.interlog.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: THE TRUTH ABOUT SIMON WIESENTHAL: Part 1 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 23:51:06 GMT Lines: 120 [duplicated bbs ad deleted] >From _The Journal of Historical Review_, Vol. 5, Number 1 (Spring 1984): The Sleight-of-Hand of Simon Wiesenthal "Falsus in Uno, Falsus in Omnibus" Mark Weber and Keith Stimely For many years Simon Wiesenthal has made a highly successful career for himself as the world's foremost "Nazi hunter." The American mass media have elevated him to secular sainthood and the U.S. Congress awarded him a special gold medal. In reality Wiesenthal is a proven liar. The most infamous example was his charge that an elderly Polish refugee living in Chicago, Frank Walus, was a Gestapo official responsible for killing Jews during the Second World War. Only a long and costly court battle by an unusually tenacious attorney saved Walus from almost certain death. The government prosecutors were forced to drop their case ignominously. The popular Chicago _Weekly Reader_ and the highly respected _Chicago Lawyer_ published devastating expose~s of Wiesenthal's role in the frame-up of Walus. Eventually even the Washington _Post_ acknowledged his sordid role in the affair. In Canada, the Toronto _Sun_, commenting on another "war criminal" case in which Wiesenthal was involved, and the accused finally determined to be innocent, editorialized: "It seems that material provided by professional Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal is wrong, but repeated [by the print and broadcast media] anyway." Recently yet another example of Wiesenthal's blatant distortion of historical truth came to light. In 1946 Wiesenthal published a book in Austria entitled _KZ Mauthausen_ [Concentration Camp Mauthausen]. It consists mainly of mediocre sketches by the young "Nazi hunter" purporting to represent the horrors of the Mauthausen concentration camp. One of the drawings depicts three Mauthausen inmates bound to posts who had apparently been sadistically put to death by the Germans. Another graphic example of murderous Nazi treatment of inmates! Actually, the sketch is completely phoney. In January 1945 _Life_ magazine published a series of photos graphically recording the firing-squad execution of three German soldiers who had been caught operating as spies behind the lines during the "Battle of the Bulge." Photographer Johnny Florea recorded the execution in December 1944 near Bastogne. The three soldiers died "singing patriotic German songs," _Life_ reported. In its issue of 16 December 1983 the West German weekly newspaper _Deutsche National-Zeitung_ published the _Life_ photos and the Wiesenthal sketch together. Even a quick comparison makes clear beyond any doubt that the "Nazi hunter" HAD COPIED HIS DRAWING FROM THE PHOTOGRAPHS. Wiesenthal's gruesome depiction of German barbarism in Mauthausen is actually the deceitful product of his malicious mind. Another example of the generally spurious character of Wiesenthal's 1946 Mauthausen book is his citation therein of the supposed "death bed" confession of Commandant Franz Ziereis that FOUR MILLION [sic] inmates were gassed to death at the Hartheim satellite camp. Along with Dachau, Ravensbrueck, and Buchenwald, "Holocaust" historians no longer even mention Mauthausen as a "death camp" or gassing center. According to the official tourist brochure now distributed at the camp, a total of only 206,000 persons WERE EVER INMATES at Mauthausen and its satellite camps. Question: How long can a self-respecting world continue to even put up with, let along shower honors on, this man Simon Wiesenthal -- one of the biggest lying fakers of our age? [duplicated bbs ad deleted] -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Fri Jul 7 17:27:10 PDT 1995 Article: 5971 of alt.politics.white-power Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!steel.interlog.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: THE TRUTH ABOUT SIMON WIESENTHAL: Part 2 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 23:52:42 GMT Lines: 416 [duplicated bbs ad deleted] *** SIMON WIESENTHAL: Bogus "Nazi Hunter" *** by Mark Weber _____________________________________________________________________ Simon Wiesenthal is a living legend. In a formal White House ceremony in August 1980, a teary-eyed President Carter presented the world's foremost "Nazi hunter" with a special gold medal awarded by the U.S. Congress. President Reagan praised him in November 1988 as one of the "true heroes" of this century. He is the recipient of West Germany's highest decoration, and one of the world's most important Holocaust organizations bears his name: the Simon Wiesenthal Center of Los Angeles. He was portrayed in flattering terms by the late Laurence Olivier in the 1978 film fantasy "The Boys From Brazil," and by Ben Kingsley in the April 1989 made-for-television movie "The Murderers Among Us: The Simon Wiesenthal Story." Wiesenthal's reputation is undeserved. The man known as the "Holocaust's Avenging Angel" has a well-documented record of reckless disregard for truth. He has lied about his own wartime experiences, misrepresented his postwar "Nazi-hunting" achievements, and has spread vile falsehoods about alleged German atrocities. He is certainly no moral authority. Fraudulent "Nazi Hunter" Wiesenthal's reputation as the world's foremost "Nazi Hunter" is completely undeserved. His greatest achievement in more than thirty years of searching for "Nazi criminals" was his alleged role in locating and capturing Adolf Eichmann. (Eichmann headed the wartime SS Jewish Affairs department. He was kidnapped by Israeli agents in Buenos Aires in 1960 and was hanged in Jerusalem after a trial that received worldwide media attention.) But Isser Harel, the Israeli official who headed the team that captured Eichmann, has declared unequivocally that Wiesenthal had "absolutely nothing" to do with the capture. "All the information supplied by Wiesenthal before and in anticipation of the operation was utterly worthless, and sometimes even misleading and of negative value," Harel says. (Harel is a former head of both the Mossad and Shin Bet, Israel's foreign and domestic security agencies.) In addition, Arnold Forster, general counsel of the Anti- Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, the influential Zionist organization, reported in his book _Square One_ that just before the Israelis seized Eichmann in Argentina, Wiesenthal was placing him in both Japan and Saudi Arabia. One of Wiesenthal's most spectacular cases involved a Chicago man named Frank Walus. In a letter dated Dec. 10, 1974, he charged that Walus "delivered Jews to the Gestapo" in Czestochowa and Kielce in Poland during the war. This letter prompted the U.S. government's investigation and legal campaign against Walus. The _Washington Post_ dealt with the case in a May 1981 article entitled "The Nazi Who Never Was: How a witchhunt by judge, press and investigators branded an innocent man a war criminal." The lengthy piece, which was copyrighted by the American Bar Association, reported: * In January 1977, the United States government accused a * * Chicagoan named Frank Walus of having committed atrocities in * * Poland during World War II. * * * * In the following years, this retired factory worker went * * into debt in order to raise more than $60,000 to defend himself. * * He sat in a courtroom while 11 Jewish survivors of the Nazi * * occupation of Poland testified that they saw him murder * * children, an old woman, a young woman, a hunchback and others... * * * * Overwhelming evidence shows that Walus was not a Nazi war * * criminal, that he was not even in Poland during World War II. * * * * ...In an atmosphere of hatred and loathing verging on * * hysteria, the government persecuted an innocent man. * * * * In 1974, Simon Wiesenthal, the famous "Nazi hunter" of * * Vienna, denounced Walus as "a Pole in Chicago who performed * * duties with the Gestapo in the ghettos of Czestochowa and Kielce * * and handed over a number of Jews to the Gestapo." * In other words, even though Wiesenthal's "reports" about Walus were actually nothing more than empty rumors, the "Nazi hunter" went ahead and denounced him anyway. In April 1978, during a period when the case was under advisement, Wiesenthal visited Chicago and gave interviews taking credit for the Walus case. "How Nazi-Hunter Helped Find Walus," was the headline in the daily _Sun-Times_ newspaper. Wiesenthal told the paper that he "never had a case of mistaken identity," and added: "I know there are thousands of people who wait for my mistake." It was only after an exhausting legal battle that the man who was vilified and physically attacked as "the butcher of Kielce" was finally able to prove that he had spent the war years as a peaceful farm laborer in Germany. Wiesenthal's irresponsible and reckless behavior in the Walus case should have been enough to permanently discredit him as a reliable investigator. But his Teflon reputation survived even this. Wrong About Mengele Much of the Wiesenthal myth is based on his hunt for Josef Mengele, the wartime physician at Auschwitz known as the "Angel of Death." Time and time again, Wiesenthal claimed to be close on Mengele's heels. Wiesenthal reported that his informant had "seen" or "just missed" the elusive physician in Peru, Chile, Brazil, Spain, Greece, and half a dozen locations in Paraguay. One of the closest shaves came in the summer of 1960. Wiesenthal reported that Mengele had been hiding out on a small Greek island, from where he escaped by just a few hours. Wiesenthal continued to peddle the story, complete with precise details, even after a reporter whom he had hired to check it out informed him that the tale was false from beginning to end. Mengele regularly dined at the finest restaurants in Asuncion, the Paraguayan capital, Wiesenthal said in 1977, and supposedly drove around the city with a bevy of armed guards in his black Mercedes Benz. Wiesenthal announced in 1985 that he was "100 per cent sure" that Mengele had been hiding out in Paraguay until at least June 1984, and charged that the Mengele family in West Germany knew exactly where. As it turned out, Wiesenthal was completely wrong. It was later definitely established that Mengele had died in 1979 in Brazil, where he had been living for years in anonymous poverty. In truth, the bulging Mengele file in Wiesenthal's Vienna "Documentation Center" was such a jumble of useless information that, in the words of the London _Times_, it "only sustained his self-confirmatory myths and gave scant satisfaction to those who apparently needed a definitive answer to Mengele's fate." Even Israel's former ambassador to Paraguay, Benjamin Varon, cautiously criticized the phony Mengele campaign in 1983: "Wiesenthal makes periodic statements that he is about to catch him, perhaps since Wiesenthal must raise funds for his activities and the name Mengele is always good for a plug." "Human Soap" Wiesenthal has given circulation and credence to one of the most scurrilous Holocaust stories, the charge that the Germans manufactured soap from the corpses of murdered Jews. According to this tale, the letters "RIF" in bars of German-made soap allegedly stood for "Pure Jewish Fat" ("Rein judisches Fett"). In reality, the initials stood for "National Center for Industrial Fat Provisioning" ("Reichsstelle fur industrielle Fettversorgung"). Wiesenthal promoted the "human soap" legend in articles published in 1946 in the Austrian Jewish community paper _Der Neue Weg_ ("The New Path"). In an article entitled "RIF," he wrote: "The terrible words 'Transport for soap' were first heard at the end fo 1942. It was in the [Polish] General Government, and the factory was in Galacia, in Belzec. From April 1942 until May 1943, 900,000 Jews were used as raw material in this factory." After the corpses were turned into various raw materials, Wiesenthal wrote, "The rest, the residual fat stuff, was used for soap production." He continued: * After 1942 people in the General Government knew quite well * * what the RIF soap meant. The civilized world may not believe the * * joy with which the Nazis and their women in the General * * Government thought of this soap. In each piece of soap they saw * * a Jew who had been magically put there, and had thus been * * prevented from growing into a second Freud, Ehrlich or Einstein. * In another imaginative article published in 1946 entitled "Belzec Soap Factory," Wiesenthal alleged that masses of Jews were exterminated in electrocution showers: * The people, pressed together and driven on by the SS, * * Latvians and Ukrainians, go through the open door into the * * "bath." Five hundred persons could fit at a time. The floor of * * the "bath chamber" was made of metal and shower heads hung from * * the ceiling. When the room was full, the SS turned on the 5,000 * * volts of electric current in the metal plate. At the same time * * water poured from the shower heads. A short scream and the * * execution was over. An SS chief physician named Schmidt * * determined through a peep hole that the victims were dead. The * * second door was opened and the "corpse commando" came in and * * quickly removed the dead. It was ready for the next 500. * Today no reputable historian accepts the stories that Jewish corpses were manufactured into bars of soap or that Jews were electrocuted to death at Belzec (or anywhere). Different Stories In spite of all that has been written about him, what Wiesenthal did during the war years under German occupation is still not clear. He has given disturbingly conflicting stories in three separate accounts of his wartime activities. Soviet Engineer or Factory Mechanic ? In a 1948 interrogation, Wiesenthal declared under oath that "between 1939 and 1941" he was a "Soviet chief engineer working in Lvov and Odessa." But in his 1967 autobiography, _The Murderers Among Us_, he claimed that he spent the period between mid-September 1939 and June 1941 in Soviet-ruled Lvov, where he worked "as a mechanic in a factory that produced bedsprings." After the Germans took control of Galicia province in June 1941, Wiesenthal was interned for a time in the Janowska concentration camp near Lvov, from where he was transferred a few months later to a camp affiliated with the repair works (OAW) in Lvov of the Ostbahn ("Eastern Railroad") of German-ruled Poland. Partisan Fighter ? The next segment of Wiesenthal's life - from October 1943 to June 1944 - is the most obscure, and his accounts of this period are contradictory. During his 1948 interrogation, Wiesenthal said that he fled from a camp in Lvov and joined a "partisan group which operated in the Tarnopol- Kamenopodolsk area." He said that "I was a partisan from October 6, 1943, until the middle of February 1944," and declared that his unit fought against Ukrainian forces, both of the SS "Galicia" division and of the independent UPA partisan force. Wiesenthal said that he held the rank of lieutenant and then major, and was responsible for building bunkers and fortification lines. He suggested that this (supposed) partisan unit was part of the _Armia Ludowa_ ("People's Army"), the Polish Communist military force established and controlled by the Soviets. He said that he and other partisans slipped into Lvov in February 1944, where they were "hidden by friends of the A.L. ["People's Army"] group." On June 13, 1944, his group was captured by the German Secret Field Police. Wiesenthal told much the same story in a sworn January 1949 statement. He said that he fled from internment in early October 1943 and then "fought against the Germans as a partisan in the forest" for eight months - from Oct. 2, 1943, to March 1944. After that, he was "in hiding" in Lvov from March to June 1944. Wiesenthal tells a totally different story in his 1967 autobiography. He reports there that after escaping from the Ostbahn repair works on Oct. 2, 1943, he lived in hiding in the houses of various friends until June 13, 1944, when he was discovered by Polish and German police and returned to a concentration camp. He makes no mention of any partisan membership or activity. According to both his 1948 interrogation and his 1967 autobiography, he tried to commit suicide on June 15, 1944, by cutting his wrists. Remarkably, though, he was saved from death by German SS doctors and recovered in an SS hospital. He remained in the Lvov concentration camp "with double rations" for a time, and then, he reports in his autobiography, he was transferred to various work camps. He spent the remaining chaotic months until the end of the war in different camps until he was liberated from Mauthausen (near Linz) by American forces on May 5, 1945. Did Wiesenthal invent a past as a heroic wartime partisan? Or did he later try to suppress his record as a Communist fighter? Or is the true story altogether different - and too shameful to admit? Did Wiesenthal voluntarily work for his wartime oppressors? That's the accusation leveled by Austrian Chancellor Bruno Kreisky, himself of Jewish ancestry and leader for many years of his country's Socialist party. During a wide-ranging interview with foreign journalists in November 1975, Kreisky charged Wiesenthal with using "Mafia methods," rejected his pretense of "moral authority," and suggested that he was an agent for the German authorities. Mauthausen Myths Before the "Nazi hunter" came the unscrupulous propagandist. In a sensational book published in 1946, _KZ Mauthausen_, Wiesenthal quoted extensively from the supposed "death bed confession" of Mauthausen Commandant Franz Ziereis, according to which FOUR MILLION people were gassed to death with carbon monoxide at the nearby Hartheim satellite camp. This claim is totally absurd, and no serious Holocaust historian still accepts it. Also according to the Ziereis "confession" cited by Wiesenthal, the Germans supposedly killed another TEN MILLION people in Poland, Lithuania and Latvia. In fact, this "confession" is utterly fraudulent and was obtained by torture. Years later, Wiesenthal was still lying about Mauthausen. In an April 1983 interview with the daily newspaper _USA TODAY_, he said of his experience in Mauthausen: "I was one of 34 prisoners alive out of 150,000 who had been put there." This is a blatant falsehood. The years have apparently not been kind to Wiesenthal's memory, because in his own autobiography he wrote that "almost 3,000 prisoners died in Mauthausen after the Americans liberated us on May 5, 1945." According to the _Encyclopedia Judaica_, at least 212,000 inmates survived internment in the Mauthausen camp complex. "Commercializing the Holocaust" Simon Wiesenthal and the Los Angeles Center that bears his name "commercialize" and "trivialize" the Holocaust, according to the director of Israel's Yad Veshem Holocaust center. The charge was reported by the Israeli daily newspaper _Ha'aretz_ in December 1988. The charge: "The displeasure of Yad Veshem over what it sees as the commercialization of the Holocaust by the Wiesenthal Center has long been known, but this is the most open attack yet." The Los Angeles Center pays Wiesenthal $75,000 a year to use his name, the Yad Veshem director said. "The Jewish people does many vulgar things," the report added, "but the Wiesenthal Center raises it to a complete level: The optimum use of sensitive issues in order to raise money..." Kreisky Sums Up Wiesenthal is not always wrong, of course. In 1975 he acknowledged in a letter published in the British periodical _Books & Bookmen_ that "there were no extermination camps on German soil." He thus implicitly conceded the claims made at the postwar Nuremburg Tribunal and elsewhere that Buchenwald, Dachau and other camps in Germany proper were "extermination camps" are not true. Bruno Kreisky once summed up his unambiguous attitude toward the "Nazi hunter" in these words: * The engineer Wiesenthal, or whatever else his title is, * * hates me because he knows that I despise his activity. The * * Wiesenthal group is a quasi-political mafia that works against * * Austria with disgraceful methods. Wiesenthal is known as someone * * who isn't very careful about the truth, who is not very selective * * about his methods and who uses tricks. He pretends to be the * * "Eichmann hunter," even though everyone knows that this was the * * work of a secret service, and that Wiesenthal only takes credit * * for that. * It is difficult to say just what drives this remarkable man. Is it a craving for fame and praise? Or is he trying to live down a shameful episode from his past? Wiesenthal clearly enjoys the praise he receives. "He is a man of considerable ego, proud of [his] testimonials and honorary degrees," the _Los Angeles Times_ has reported. Kreisky has given a simpler explanation. He said that Wiesenthal is "driven by hatred" ("von Hass diktiert"). In light of his well-documented record of deception, lies and incompetence, the extravagent praise heaped upon this contemptible man is a sorry reflection of the venal corruptibility and unprincipled self-deception of our age. _____________________________________________________________________ This leaflet is an edited version of an essay that originally appeared in _The Journal of Historical Review_ (Winter 1989-90, Vol. 9, No. 4). Complete source references are published with the essay. _The Journal_ is published quarterly by the Institute for Historical Review. Mark Weber, a member of the Editorial Advisory Board of the Institute for Historical Review, studied history at the University of Illinois (Chicago), the University of Munich, Porland State University, and Indiana University (M.A., 1977). For five days in March 1988, he testified as an expert witness on the "final solution" and the Holocaust issue in a Toronto District Court case. His many articles, reviews and essays on modern European history have appeared in _The Journal of Historical Review_ and elsewhere. Send $2 for a packet of literature and a full listing of books. Or order more copies of this leaflet, postpaid, at the following prices: 10 copies, $2.00 - 50 copies, $5.00 100 copies or more are 8 cents each Institute For Historical Review 1822 1/2 Newport Blvd., Suite 191 Costa Mesa, CA 92627 [duplicated bbs ad deleted] -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Sat Jul 8 04:00:58 PDT 1995 Article: 5962 of alt.politics.white-power Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!steel.interlog.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: Re: Read about Holocaust Fighter Ernst Zundel Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada References: <3sv5no$bdc@ionews.io.org> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 23:21:08 GMT Lines: 17 In a previous article, lzaird@io.org () says: >Love the Subject line! > >Zundel's not a revisionist, he's a "fighter of truth"! > He's a FIGHTER FOR TRUTH. Have you ever even read a book from Zundel? Marc Lemire DIGITAL FREEDOM SYSOP (416) 462-3327 -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Sat Jul 8 04:01:01 PDT 1995 Article: 5963 of alt.politics.white-power Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!steel.interlog.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: Re: Great new book on Revisionist ERNST ZUNDEL!!! Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada References: <3sv6rf$lc@ionews.io.org> <3srjq7$r3v@ionews.io.org> In article , >Marc Lemire wrote: >>In a previous article, lzaird@io.org () says: >>>I thought we covered this you asshole... He's less than persecuted. >>Ya right he went through 9 years of court battles.. you don't call that >>persecuted?!?!? maybe you should try it then see what you think of him > >Yeah, well you break the LAW in Canada, expect to get the shaft... This >isn't a country of Anarchy, tell that fat little bastard we have rules. Her didn't break the law. He was found innocent! Nice try > >>>Just because he can't post this smut from his political heaven Canada >>I posted this from the TORONTO Free-net. So what the Hell are you >>talking about. > >And where is Toronto? Canada! That's right... Following me so far Sparky? No I have no clue what on earth you are talking about. You say he cannot "post this smut from his political heaven Canada" Then I say that he does post from Canada? Are you on Crack? > >>>he's bitching...well if he doesn't like the country, answer me this, why >>>doesn't he go back to his beloved Germany? I'd be happy to see that >>>pudgy little bastard shipped back express... Hey, while we're at it, >>He would go to jail for saying the Holocaust Didn't happen the way the >>Media protrays it. Besides why should he leave. He has been a >>contributing member of Canadian Society for a long time. > >Well is he saying something different? Is the media giving him a raw >deal, or are they right on? As far as I can tell, they're saying Zundel >claims it diddn't happen, is Zundel saying something else? All he's All Zundel said is that there was no Gas chambers that Gassed Jewish people. He is not saying that the Nazi's were nice to Jews. >contributed to Canada is an air of racism (and yes, it IS racism, he's a >fucking self-styles neo-nazi, don't say otherwise). He should leave >because the only reason he's here is because his beloved Germany won't >have him. Zundel has done alot for Canada and for German Canadians. He has made thousands of Canadians no longer ashamed to be of German Heritage. PS. What have you done to help Canada? > >>>why don't you answer the world this question, where did 6 million Jews >>>disappear to? >>Order the book "did six million really die?" and find out > >No thanks, I dont need to read that book to tell me you guys are full of >shit... So if 6 million diddn't die, where'd they go? > >>>I think this says enough about his and your motives, the all-mighty >>>buck! You WP types are being suckered by your own kind! >>What is wrong with trying to seel some controversial and thought >>provoking books? He needs money to do all the things he does, at least >>you get something for your donations. A book or a video or a tape. > >Change "needs" to "wants" and you're on the money, so to speak. > >>It costs money to stand up for your rights, but I guess you don't know >>anything about that since the government doesn't PERSECUTE you. > >So if I go and rob a bank, and the govenment locks me up, am I being >persecuted? Or did I BREAK THE LAW!?! Let me say once again since your kind of slow ZUNDEL HAS NOT COMMITED ANY ILLEGIAL ACTS. HE HAS NOT BROKEN ANY LAW! Wake the hell up before responding to this message! Marc Lemire DIGITAL FREEDOM SYSOP (416) 462-3327 [duplicated bbs ad deleted] -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Sat Jul 8 04:01:05 PDT 1995 Article: 5964 of alt.politics.white-power Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.sprintlink.net!gatech!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!steel.interlog.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: Re: Canada's Biggest and Best Pro-White BBS... OVER 200 USERS Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada References: <3t02v5$57t@ionews.io.org> <3srjvh$r8f@ionews.io.org> In article , >Marc Lemire wrote: >>In a previous article, lzaird@io.org () says: >>>In article , >>>Marc Lemire wrote: >>>> NOW OVER 50 MEGS OF REVISIONIST PICTURES AND TEXT FILES!!! >>>> including picture files of ERNST ZUNDEL'S house >>>> which was lit on fire by Jewish Terrorists!! >>>Oh, I gotta get those! I see a new Windows startup screen on the horizon! > >>You must be a pretty sick person. > >This from the guy who has a BBS dedicated to hate in his bedroom...does >Mommy know? Actually the BBS is in my Office. I don't live with my parents unlike maybe you? > >> You should not make fun of someone who >>just lost $100,000+ because he holds a unpopular viewpoint. > >Unpopular? He's denying the deaths of millions! People who's relatives >that died in death camps are still alive and kicking...of course it's >going to be more than just un-popular! Anyways, how's this total of >$100,000 come up? What, did he lose his pricless collection of the >furher's underwear? > Futher's underware? What on earth are you talking about. You are a very sick person. Maybe you should get some help? Besides call Zundel your self and ask how much damage was done to his house. His number is (416) 922-9850 >> You would not be so >>cynical. But your free to do whatever you want. Anyone can logon the BBS > >I probably will one of these days...for a good laugh. Ya since everyone laughs at you here, the 200+ users at Digital Freedom can laugh at you there also. Just in case you forgot here's the info [duplicated bbs ad deleted] -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Sat Jul 8 04:01:11 PDT 1995 Article: 5967 of alt.politics.white-power Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!gatech!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!steel.interlog.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: THE REAL HOLOCAUST: Dresden Part 1 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 23:44:46 GMT Lines: 308 [duplicated bbs ad deleted] Subject: DRESDEN: A REAL HOLOCAUST From: vertrauen@aol.com (Vertrauen) February 13 marks the 50th anniversary of the aerial genocide against one of the most important cultural centers of Northern Europe. Within the space of less than 24 hours not only was it reduced to flaming ruins, but over a quarter million of its inhabitants--possibly as many as half a million--had perished in what was the worst massacre of all time. The following account, taken from the Feb. 1985 issue of the NS Bulletin, tells us what a real holocaust is like. Fifty years ago, as Allied planes rained death and destruction over Germany, the old Saxon city of Dresden lay like an island of tranquility amid desolation. Famous as a cultural center and possessing no military value, Dresden had been spared the terror that descended from the skies over the rest of the country. In fact, little had been done to provide the ancient city of artists and craftsmen with anti-aircraft defenses. One squadron of planes had been stationed in Dresden for awhile, but the Luftwaffe decided to move the aircraft to another area where they would be of use. A gentlemen's agreement seemed to prevail, designating Dresden as an "open city." On Shrove Tuesday, February 13, 1945, a flood of refugees fleeing the Red Army 60 miles away had swollen the city's population to well over a million. Each new refugee brought fearful accounts of Soviet atrocities. Little did those refugees retreating from the Red terror imagine that they were about to die in a horror worse than anything Stalin could devise. Normally, a carnival atmosphere prevailed in Dresden on Shrove Tuesday. In 1945, however, the outlook was rather dismal. Houses everywhere overflowed with refugees, and thousands were forced to camp out in the streets, shivering in the bitter cold. However, the people felt relatively safe; and although the mood was grim, the circus played to a full house that night as thousands came to forget for a moment the horrors of war. Bands of little girls paraded about in carnival dress in an effort to bolster waning spirits. Half-sad smiles greeted the laughing girls, but spirits were lifted. No one realized that in less than 24 hours those same innocent children would die screaming in Churchill's firestorm. But, of course, no one could know that then. The Russians, to be sure, were savages, but at least the Americans and British were "honorable". So when the first alarms signaled the start of 14 hours of hell, Dresden's people streamed dutifully into their shelters. But they did so without much enthusiasm, believing the alarms to be false, since their city had never been threatened from the air. Many would never come out alive, for that "great democratic statesman," Winston Churchill--in collusion with that other "great democratic statesman," Franklin Delano Roosevelt-- had decided that the city of Dresden was to be obliterated by saturation bombing. What were Churchill's motives? They appear to have been political, rather than military. Historians unanimously agree that Dresden had no military value. What industry it did have produced only cigarettes and china. But the Yalta Conference was coming up, in which the Soviets and their Western allies would sit down like ghouls to carve up the shattered corpse of Europe. Churchill wanted a trump card-- a devastating "thunderclap of Anglo-American annihilation"--with which to "impress" Stalin. That card, however, was never played at Yalta, because bad weather delayed the originally scheduled raid. Yet Churchill insisted that the raids be carried out-- to "disrupt and confuse" the German civilian population behind the lines. Dresden's citizens barely had tine to reach their shelters. The first bomb fell at 10:09 p.m. The attack lasted 24 minutes, leaving the inner city a raging sea of fire. "Precision saturation bombing" had created the desired firestorm. A firestorm is caused when hundreds of smaller fires join in one vast conflagration. Huge masses of air are sucked in to feed the inferno, causing an artificial tornado. Those persons unlucky enough to be caught in the rush of wind are hurled down entire streets into the flames. Those who seek refuge underground often suffocate as oxygen is pulled from the air to feed the blaze, or they perish in a blast of white heat-- heat intense enough to melt human flesh. WOMEN AND CHILDREN TARGETED One eye witness who survived told of seeing "young women carrying babies running up and down the streets, their dresses and hair on fire, screaming until they fell down, or the collapsing buildings fell on top of them." There was a three-hour pause between the first and second raids. The lull had been calculated to lure civilians >from their shelters into the open again. To escape the flames, thousands of civilians had crowded into the Grosser Garten, a magnificent park nearly one and a half miles square. The second raid came at 1:22 a.m. with no warning. Twice as many bombers returned with a massive load of incendiary bombs. The second wave was designed to spread the raging firestorm into the Grosser Garten. It was a complete "success." Within a few minutes a sheet of flame ripped across the grass, uprooting trees and littering the branches of others with everything from bicycles to human limbs. For days afterward, they remained bizarrely strewn about as grim reminders of Allied sadism. At the start of the second air assault, many were still huddled in tunnels and cellars, waiting for the fires of the first attack to die down. At 1:30 a.m. an ominous rumble reached the ears of the commander of a Labor Service convoy sent into the city on a rescue mission. He described it this way: "The detonation shook the cellar walls. The sound of the explosions mingled with a new, stranger sound which seemed to come closer and closer, the sound of a thundering waterfall; it was the sound of the mighty tornado howling in the inner city." MELTING HUMAN FLESH Others hiding below ground died. But they died painlessly--they simply glowed bright orange and blue in the darkness. As the heat intensified, they either disintegrated into cinders or melted into a thick liquid--often three or four feet deep in spots. Shortly after 10:30 on the morning of February 14, the last raid swept over the city. American bombers pounded the rubble that had been Dresden for a steady 38 minutes. But this attack was not nearly as heavy as the first two. However, what distinguished this raid was the cold- blooded ruthlessness with which it was carried out. U.S. Mustangs appeared low over the city, strafing anything that moved, including a column of rescue vehicles rushing to the city to evacuate survivors. One assault was aimed at the banks of the Elbe River, where refugees had huddled during the horrible night. In the last year of the war, Dresden had become a hospital town. During the previous night's massacre, heroic nurses had dragged thousands of crippled patients to the Elbe. The low-flying Mustangs machine-gunned those helpless patients, as well as thousands of other old men, women and children who had escaped the city. When the last plane left the sky, Dresden was a scorched ruin, its blackened streets filled with corpses. The city was spared no horror. A flock of vultures escaped from the zoo, and fattened on the carnage. Rats swarmed over the piles of corpses. A Swiss citizen described his visit to Dresden two weeks after the raid: "I could see torn-off arms and legs, mutilated torsos and heads which had been wrenched from their bodies and rolled away. In places the corpses were still lying so densely that I had to clear a path through them in order not to tread on arms and legs." The death toll was staggering. The full extent of the Dresden holocaust can be more readily grasped if one considers that over 250,000--possibly as many as half a million--persons died within a 14-hour period, whereas the dead at Hiroshima numbered only 71,878. Allied apologists for the massacre have often "twinned" Dresden with the English city of Coventry. But the 380 killed in Coventry during the entire war cannot begin to compare with the 250,000-plus slaughtered in 14 hours at Dresden. Moreover, Coventry was a munitions center, a legitimate military target. Dresden on the other hand, produced only china--and cups and saucers can hardly be considered military hardware! It is interesting to further compare the respective damage to London and Dresden, especially when we recall all the Hollywood schmaltz about the "London blitz." In one night, 1,600 acres of land were destroyed in the Dresden massacre. London escaped with damage to only 600 acres during the entire war. In one ironic note, Dresden's only conceivable military target--its railroad yard--was ignored by Allied bombers. They were too busy concentrating on helpless old men, women and children. If there ever was a war crime, then certainly the Dresden Holocaust ranks as the most sordid one of all time. Yet there are no movies made today condemning this fiendish slaughter; nor did any Allied airman--or Sir Winston--sit in the dock at Nuremberg. In fact, the Dresden airmen were actually awarded medals for their role in this mass murder. But, of course, they could not have been tried, because they were "only following orders." This is not to say that the mountains of corpses left in Dresden were ignored by the Nuremberg Tribunal. In one final irony, the prosecution presented photographs of the Dresden dead as "evidence" of alleged National Socialist atrocities against Jewish concentration-camp inmates! Churchill, the monster who ordered the Dresden slaughter, was knighted and the rest of his career is history. The cold-blooded sadism of the massacre, however, is brushed aside by his biographers, who still cannot bring themselves to tell how the desire of one madman to "impress" another one led to the mass murder of up to half million men, women and children. NEW ORDER PO Box 27486-D Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53227 USA [duplicated bbs ad deleted] -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Sat Jul 8 04:01:18 PDT 1995 Article: 5968 of alt.politics.white-power Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!steel.interlog.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: THE REAL HOLOCAUST: Dresden Part 2 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 23:47:05 GMT Lines: 673 [duplicated bbs ad deleted] >From the publishers of HUNTER and THE TURNER DIARIES comes a musical revolution -- DRESDEN'S CALL OF THE BLOOD. (Entire contents copyright (c) 1995 National Vanguard Books. Dresden is Joseph Pryce and Knut Pedersen. 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Order today (cassette #609) from National Vanguard Books Box 330 Hillsboro WV 24946 USA The following is the lyric sheet for this new album: Dedicated to the memory of Ludwig Klages SIDE ONE HORST WESSEL SONG Raise up the flag, and stand as one, together. Our troops will march with steady, iron tread. Though comrades fall, shot down by leftists and Reaction, They march with us in spirit to the fight. Clear off the streets, the Brown Battalion marches! The streets are free--the Brown Battalions rule. The sacred flag brings hope to our oppressed millions; The day for freedom and for bread is here. At last the call to struggle rings out loudly-- And we're prepared: we storm into the fight! As Hitler's flag is waving proudly in the bright skies, Our slavery ends forever in this land! GEORGE LINCOLN ROCKWELL Heart sublime and will so pure, Since your passing we are sure That you light the way To a shining day. So much courage in your heart. Gave your life that truth might start On her stellar quest. George, you passed the test. What makes a man give his life for his race? They'd have us vanish from Earth without trace, But you wait in the wings for the moment of our call. GLR, now the tide is advancing, But we'll all hold the line And rise as one, in the sun. GLR, spare us some of your spirit, For our victory is nigh, And you are here, like a god. George Lincoln Rockwell, come back and save us.... AVATAR (Adolf Hitler) Aryan Sun, shine down on the land; >From icy mountains to margin of sand. We've dreamed a dream of what must be-- So open your mind and heaven you'll see. One people, one blood-community In roaring forests and on the sea; The warrior's oath, the mother's smile-- Soft winds on meadows, mile by mile. And He is there, behind it all: Purest Idea, commanding Call. The fire of His Mind, the blazing eyes, Gift of the Gods, from bluest skies. Aryan Sun, shine down on the land; >From icy mountains to margin of sand. We've dreamed a dream of what must be-- So open your mind, His heaven you'll see.... ARIADNE(1) IN AMERICA Jefferson, John C. Calhoun: where did you go, wherever did you go? Washington, and Franklin too, where did you go, wherever did you go? America, I miss you, miss you: I want to come back home. America, I need to see you, I need to come back home. Edgar Poe and Mencken, love you so, I wanted you to know. Ambrose Bierce, and Dr. Pierce--love you so, I wanted you to know. Arya, Arya, Savitri Devi, Shine like a star.... Get the monkey who's paid to sing, to get a monkey to bear the ring(2); Get the stars 'cause they're sure to bring cash to ransom a captured king. Do you have no shame? Who will take the blame? It's the aliens' turn to be driven into the foaming sea. We will rise and we'll do much more, 'til we're victors from shore to shore. Then we'll stage some trials. Gibbets(3) stretch for miles. America, I miss you.... TO ROBERT MATHEWS IN VALHALLA We're on the march today to Whidbey Island; we've found a reason to live today, on Whidbey Island. Maybe, now we know just why this young man had to die. He saw the gleaming dawn; he asked the question. We follow him where he's led, O Northern Bastion. Our people must not die; we'll never live a lie. We've built our fires tonight on Whidbey Island. The flames will rise and rise from Whidbey Island. And then the world will know, how from a spark the flames will grow. O Whidbey Island. ZOG(4)/BLOOD AND SOIL Slay, slay the dragon: go, go for, go for the throat. ZOG has me in its power walking on the brink. ZOG tells me what to do and everything I think. ZOG--I awake at night and ZOG is at the door; ZOG--I would free myself, I'm living like a whore. How can you live with this evil? The tune's been called by the devil. How fares your soul, little citizen? Get off your knees, little citizen! ZOG--I'm awake and yet I'm walking in my sleep. ZOG--There's a precipice my steps now seem to seek. ZOG--Turn around there is a monster just behind. ZOG--And he's tearing out my will, my heart, my mind. For blood and for soil, we will work, we will toil; Heaven is born on the Earth. The heroes arise as we shout to the skies: We will now have our rebirth! DESOLATION ROW (To Robert Miles) You see the smiles you see the bright eyes You hear the laughter reach up to the skies For though we are down, we're not defeated On Desolation Row And as we stand by the fire, We watch the flames mounting ever higher And if you steel your heart The world will mark its change Every element rearrange. Though we must all suffer fools, Yet we must never suffer gladly And if you cannot stand with us, Then stand aside--the gates of paradise open wide.... Gods tumble down as the new world reveals its visage And though the flowers droop sometimes, we soothe our minds When winter comes, spring is close behind. Let the old fools make their deals. Let the old world prepare its exit. We're waiting in the wings right now to show you how A real live Hamlet can take a bow. DARK QUEEN Chill winds in the winterland; Blue ice, red fire. Dark queen of my decadence, quench my desire. CALL OF THE BLOOD Though you walk by the sea of oblivion, keep your eyes on the temples of light. Bear your torch high in front of the wavering crowd. In your hands is the doom of the night. For many are called, but so few are chosen; you must find the gods you have lost, or never found. Too many have wandered afar from the Northland, you must heed the Call of the Blood. What my eyes witness now in a prostrate world calls new strength to the Call of the Blood. Nordic honor and dignity flee the Dark, and we're menaced by uprising floods. Close the ranks, day is dawning throughout the land; the invisible web is now thrown. Seize the monsters and drive them back whence they came, To the womb of the Eternal Unknown. NOTES: 1. Ariadne: In Greek mythology, the daughter of Minos and Pasiphae, who gave Theseus the thread by which he found his way out of the Labyrinth. 2. Michael Jackson at Elizabeth Taylor's wedding. 3. A reference to The Day of the Rope. See the novel The Turner Diaries available from National Vanguard Books. 4. "Zionist Occupation Government" Original cover painting by Alfred Sundvall SIDE TWO THE STORMER (Julius Streicher(1)) Take the mask off, let's see what is inside. Plastic demon(2), let's see what you would hide. Manila envelope comes to my door, watching me, watching me crawl on the floor. Juli can tell me the truth if I want, and he'll perform any trick, any stunt. I won't trust any old fox on the heath; I won't give dirty DSJs(3) my seat. I wouldn't trust Mr. Suess on his oath: Juli has told me, "Watch out for them both!" ARYANS: We know we fear you, you tell me-- KIKES: Impossible! ARYANS: We would avoid you, you tell me-- KIKES: Impossible! ARYANS: Can we avoid you? You tell me-- KIKES: Impossible! ARYANS: But we'll destroy you and then you must-- Juli, they beat you(4), they f---ed with your pride. Moulies abused you with mouths opened wide. Yet you returned in a plain-paper bag, taller and whiter than Snow-covered crag. LANDSBERG AM LECH A four and a half year struggle against lies, stupidity, and cowardice.(5) A reckoning. (Who's afraid of Mr. Wolf? Who's afraid to wage a war?) NOW WILL OUR FOLK BE FREE Instauration... meditation... Aryan nation... When will our folk be free? Dragon boats sail... enemies pale... Victory hail... Dragon boats sail... Soon will our Folk be free. In the Northland... We will gather... evolution... near the glaciers... Now will our Gods be free. TRYST (Danger in Central Park) As they strolled through the park near the flashing of the fountains, the full moon shed its light on the lovers as they walked. Sweet was the nighttime to the dreamers; warm is the feeling of new love. But there's a shadow moving swiftly through the darkness-- And they are not protected, and they won't see the day. Danger in Central Park, Zooland, USA, where the primates kill and feast each and every day. Sad, o so sad, but no one complains; Bad, very bad, they should all be in chains. There's the crunch of the leaves as the killer moves in closer; but they don't seem to hear as he moves toward their tryst. Sweet was the nighttime to the dreamers; warm is the gushing of their blood. Stranger, you must shed a tear for our poor lovers-- For they were not protected, and did not see the day.... THE PARTY SONG Big belly bourgeois he sends me my check And if he don't I will narrow his neck For I have emerged in the land of the free With dope for your kids and much money for me I'll never go--I'm nailed down you know I'll stay 'til the trumpets of doom. Your streets are gold; they're bought and they're sold; Get out of my way, just make room! I like to party in de daytime I like to party in de nighttime When I wake up I say as I start the new day "I'm so glad that I came to America!" The living is free and my family's with me I'm so glad that I'll never go home. "Give me your lazy, your botched, and your whores"-- That's what you say as we land on your shores. You are a milk-cow with millions of teats We got the mouths and we sure got the wits. We'll never go--we're nailed down you know; We'll stay in these well-furnished rooms. Your streets are gold, they're bought and they're sold; Get out of our way; we're your doom! THRENODY (to The Leader) Walking on a road of fate with head held high We've another sorrow. And since his flame of life was quenched we dread the day-- Dread each sad tomorrow. So in the dark we huddle close in friendship's glow, Guardians of the Order. And those who rave and fume like monsters in the gloom Will receive no quarter. What are we coming to? What did he ask of you?--of me? Now, it is a darkling time And it's late, very late, very late. Pass into a cosmic circle of fate Not too late, not too late, For those who train their questing souls for the Day. And as we gather in the sacred little rooms We are in His presence. We chant the chants and feel the roar of Viking blood Gathered from His essence. For we must halt the steep decline of humankind. Raise the banner high! We believe that we will fight the final fight Under Nordic skies. TOYS (George's Weapons) (They called George Bush a sissy, so to increase his popularity ratings and to please his Jewish masters, he rained fire down upon the people of Iraq.) WHITE AMERIKA I dream of White Amerika, aglow with strength and beauty, Where children ramble unafraid and free. Our women bring forth noble sons to build a world of glory. And daughters weave their magic spells. One day.... I want to live in a White Amerika I'll find my fate in a White Imperium. Smash the system-- Off with their heads. HORST WESSEL SONG(6) (reprise) Raise up the flag, and stand as one, together. Our troops will march with steady, iron tread. Though comrades fall, shot down by leftists and Reaction, They march with us in spirit to the fight. Clear off the streets, the Brown Battalion marches! The streets are free--the Brown Battalions rule. The sacred flag brings hope to our oppressed millions; The day for freedom and for bread is here. At last the call to struggle rings out loudly-- And we're prepared: we storm into the fight! As Hitler's flag is waving proudly in the bright skies, Our slavery ends forever in this land! NOTES: 1. National Socialist official and publisher, ritually murdered for his writings by Jews in 1946. 2. Composer Richard Wagner's term for the Jew. 3. "Department Store Jewess"--a term used in Mein Kampf. 4. Streicher was tortured by Negroes at Nuremberg. 5. This sentence was the original title of Mein Kampf. 6. Horst Wessel was an early martyr of National Socialism, and this song, here paraphrased in English by Joseph Pryce, was the anthem of the Hitler movement. These songs are done with care and beauty and remind me of that most Aryan of rock groups, the Moody Blues, though with a harder edge. This is far more sophisticated music, both technically and compositionally, than most pro-White music. Order cassette #609 from National Vanguard Books, Box 330, Hillsboro WV 24946 USA. $9.95 plus $1.50 postage and handling. --Kevin Strom [duplicated bbs ad deleted] -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Sat Jul 8 04:01:33 PDT 1995 Article: 5969 of alt.politics.white-power Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!steel.interlog.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: THE REAL HOLOCAUST: Dresden Part 3 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 23:49:54 GMT Lines: 686 [duplicated bbs ad deleted] HOLOCAUST AT DRESDEN By George Fowler (from The Barnes Review) A half century has passed since february 13-14, 1945. Overnight, one of europe's great meccas of art and culture, a city that had become a hospital center for german, american and british wounded, that housed many thousand allied prisoners of war, and that had become a haven to refugees fleeing the red army, was bombed into oblivion. But the perpetrators of one of history's great outrages were to receive the laurels of glorious victory rather than a place in the war crimes dock. Part 1 - PRELUDE TO HOLOCAUST After nearly three years of unremitting Allied air offensives against Germany's civilian population, plans for the destruction of the open city of Dresden, incinerating at least 135,000 people, took shape on March 30, l942. However the seeds of such inhuman hate had long since found fertile soil at 10 Downing Street and within the White House. On the above date Prof. F.A. Lindemann, later, Lord Cherwell, the Prime Minister's Science Advisor and a jewish refugee from Germany, delivered to Winston Churchill a fateful report. In his book BOMBER COMMAND Max Hastings stated that "Cherwell's Report provided the final rationalization for the program Bomber Command was undertaking, and it would henceforth be paper-clipped to the plans of the bomber offensive." Lindemann estimated that every 40 tons of bombs "dropped on built-up areas" would "make 4,000 to 8,000 people homeless." This report to the PM stated: "In l938 over 22 million Germans lived in 58 towns of over 100,000 inhabitants, which, with modern equipment, should be easy to find and hit." Hastings concluded that Lindemann "Hoped to create a nation of refugees, and no doubt also a good many corpses under the rubble, although he was too genteel to say so." There were of course discussions and disagreements regarding strategic and tactical approaches to the bombing of Germany. But Lindermann's report is considered the basic text behind the wholesale bombing of civilian targets. Prior to the report's dispatch to Churchill, a February 143, l942 Air Ministry directive to Bomber Command from Air Vice Marshal Sir Norman Bottomly contained the following Valentine's Day message: "You are accordingly authorized to employ your forces without restriction . . . (operations) should now be focused on the moral of the enemy civil population and in particular, of the industrial workers." On February 22, while Churchill was staying at the White House, it was decided that Air Marshal Arthur Harris would leave his post as the head of the RAF delegation in Washington (an assignment he had held in neutral America beginning June 12, l941) to head Bomber Command. This fateful reassignment would team Harris with a PM of kindred instincts in one of Western history's most costly and ghastly undertakings. The first chapters of World War II, from Germany's Sept. 3, l939 invasion of Poland to the May-June l940 clash in the West when France capitulated and Britain was driven from the continent, saw a scarcity of bombing by the belligerents. This was largely the period of "Sitzkreig" and "Bore War"during which Germany's bombing of Warsaw prior to Poland's surrender marked the only major incident: a relatively moderate attack that proved costly to Germany on the propaganda front. Throughout the l939-40 months of frontal stalemate in the West, Hitler didn't order the Luftwaffe to bomb Britain (while working continually for a negotiated peace with London that would allow him to concentrate on his plan for land acquisition in the East and the destruction of Bolshevism's Soviet bastion). The Royal Air Force confined its activities to the dropping of propaganda leaflets. The bombing of the open city of Freiburg-imBreigeu on May 10, l940, killed 22 children, 13 women, 11 men and 11 soldiers. Whether the bombers were French, British or even German has never been determined but the civilians killed and the property destroyed were real and gave Propaganda Minister Josef Goebbels grist to promise that the Luftwaffe would answer the destruction "in a like manner." Four days later the Germans bombed Rotterdam. From northern German airfields some 100 Heinkel III bombers were poised to attack remaining resistance zones in the city. However, surrender negotiations with the Dutch government were in progress. The raid, planned for 1500 hrs. (3 pm), was ordered postponed after takeoff on a flight of about 100 minutes to target areas. The Dutch government had been stalling during negotiating session. German terms were finally agreed to five minutes before the time set for the attack. But the recall could not be signaled to those bombers that had crossed the Netherlands border. At that point they had reeled in their trailing aerials allowing long range reception. A swift fighter was dispatched to head off the bombers, and from a German panzer position on the ground at Rotterdam, where the mission-scrub signal had been received, signal flares were fired to ward off an attack that began just as the flares went up. The signal was received in time to disengage 40 of the Heinkels. The city's main water supply system was hit, and considerable fire ensued in one area (no incendiaries were dropped) due largely to hits on a margarine plant from which streams of burning oil flowed. In l9l2 the Rotterdam government released figures showing that 980 people had been killed in the raid. The considerable devastation in the city gave Allied propagandists a field day, and Rotterdam became the greatest war atrocity story since Japan's "Rape of Nanking" in the l930s. In his l963 book THE DESTRUCTION OF DRESDEN David Irving noted that "Ninety four tons of bombs had been dropped . . . By comparison, close to 9,000 tons of high explosives and incendiaries were dropped on the inland Ruhr port of Duisburg during the triple blow of 14th October l944." With Germany's bombing of Britain following France's surrender, strategic targets were singled out and hit with a high degree of accuracy. But on the night of August 24, l940 (the main London targets being the vital East End dock-shipping-industrial areas), the target was the oil storage depot at Thames Haven. A navigational error led to the bombing of parts of the East End, the City and St. Giles. The bombing of central London drew the immediate retaliatory response of the Royal Air Force. The following night it bombed Berlin, with slight effect. This enraged Hitler, who issued a command that may have cost Germany victory. He ordered that the Luftwaffe switch its attacks to London and away from RAF installations and radar sites. This allowed the severely depleted Fighter Command a short but much needed period to regroup. The Luftwaffe's incredibly costly (most particularly in terms of seasoned pilots and crew) London "Blitz" is dated from September 7, l940 to May 16, l94l. Luftwaffe figures show that throughout this period 24,177 tons of bombs were dropped during 71 major attacks on London and other areas of industrial concentration, such as Hull, Liverpool and Manchester. The British calculated that, by the end of l940, 13,399 Britons had been killed in raids. The German raid ranking with Rotterdam in terms of propaganda value was the bombing of Coventry in November, l940. In bombing this industrial city Coventry's Cathedral was nearly demolished. Pictures of its ruins filled America's newspapers and newsreel screens. In his l975 book THE FIRST CASUALTY (the title evidently taken from U.S. Sen. Hiram Johnson's 1917 observation that "The first casualty, when war comes, is truth."). Philip Knoghtly noted that the LONDON TIMES editorialized on the "butchery at Coventry . . . The wanton slaughter by a people pretending to be civilized who, it would seem, kill mostly for the joy of destroying." Of this Knightly wrote: "Coventry was actually a legitimate military target, one of the keys to the British war effort" containing such plants as the Standard Motor Co., the British Piston Ring Co., and Kaimler motor works and Alvis aero-engine factory. The British had known of Germany's intent to bomb Coventry due to an early intercept of Germany's ENIGMA code system by way or its ULTRA codebreaking device. But Churchill vetoed interception of the Luftwaffe attack for fear that it would tip the Germans to the fact that their main code had been broken. Thus Coventry entailed a double deception on the part of the British. But this did not deter Churchill from ordering "Operation Rachel." This was the codename for the December 12, l940 Bomber Command attack on Mannheim. On the PM's direct order it was to be a reprisal for the considerable damage done to Coventry and the first occasion in the relatively brief annals of air warfare that an entire city was to be the deliberate target of attack. Britain had began the war with a somewhat antiquated bomber capacity. But by l942 and with America's full material support, Bomber Command was a formidable force. In the spring of l942 Harris sold Churchill the Chief of Air Staff Sir Charles Portal on a 1,000-plane raid. Stretching all human and material resources, l,047 planes, largely with inexperienced crews were gathered. When Churchill and Harris discussed potential casualties, the PM said he was prepared for the loss of 100 planes. Hamburg, Germany's second largest city, was to be the target. But weather conditions dictated a switch to the secondary target and Germany's third largest city, Cologne. The raid was carried out May 30 and it was a success. The city along the Rhine burned deep red well into the sky, the great Cathedral's twin spires (one of which would subsequently be destroyed) clear silhouettes to the airmen above. The raid had wrought instant devastation unequaled since biblical lore. Over 12,000 structures had been totally or partially destroyed, with 45,000 people left homeless. Remarkably, only 496 dead were counted. The water, power gas and telephone complexes were in shambles and 36 factories were destroyed, 70 more badly damaged. Bomber command was delighted at the loss of only 40 aircraft. Max Hastings noted in BOMBER COMMAND that "It was a mere token of the destruction Bomber Command would achieve in l942 and 1943 . . ." In the latter months of l942 U.S. Army Air Corps B-17s and B-25 Liberators began limited daylight operations against targets in France and Germany. The Air Corps' top brass under Gen. H.H. "Hap" Arnold, in conjunction with Bomber Command's leaders were using for an all-out campaign of U.S.-daylight/RAF-night operations. The American airmen had an added incentive. They wanted the postwar establishment of a separate armed service co-equal with the Army and Navy. The bomber offensive was their prime opportunity so show what they could do, and it would lead to many an unnecessary but destructive mission. The efforts of the Air Corps-Bomber command lobbying were fully rewarded at the Roosevelt-Churchill Casablanca conference in January, l943. A Casablanca directive read: "Your primary aim will be the progressive destruction and dislocation of the German military, industrial and economic system, and the undermining of the moral of the German people to the point where their capacity for armed resistance is fatally weakened . . . " Following Casablanca, America's bomber presence escalated markedly, with USAAF (U.S. Army Air Force) fields increasingly dotting the fields of eastern England. The stage was fully set for one of history's darkest dramas, and one that would place gold stars signifying a family member killed in action in the front windows of tens of thousands of American homes. The physical punch to achieve what "Bomber" Harris had envisioned was now in place. Max Hastings wrote: "Long before Casablanca, or even before Cologne, Harris had conceived his campaign for the systematic laying-waste of Germany's cities, and he never had the slightest intention of being deflected from it." In the summer of l943 Bomber Command was to unleash its most lethal strike of the war save for Dresden, and it would provide the first major instance of British and American public doubt and criticism. Although Hamburg had "weathered" Harris's initial 1000-plane raid, it would be visited in a manner that can only be recalled as a determined atrocity. In BOMBER HARRIS author Dudly Saward states that the obliteration of Hamburg, "which went by the ominous code name of 'Gomorrah,' was planned to take place over a period of four nights." Before his crews took off on the first assault the night of July 24-25, Harris told them: "The Battle of Hamburg cannot be won in a single night. It is estimated that 10,000 tons of bombs will have to be dropped to complete the process of elimination. To achieve the maximum effect of air bombardment this city should be subjected to sustained attack. On the first attack a large number of incendiaries are to be carried in order to saturate the fire service." Few could misunderstand these words or the intent behind them. This was not a surgical or even carpet bombing strike against military or industrial targets. Clearly, this was the premeditated murder of a city and its people. In the series of four Hamburg raids, July 24 to August 3, Bomber Command dropped 8,621 tons of bombs on the city, 4,309 tons being incendiaries. Eighth Air Force B-17s dropped 771 tons of explosives during the third raid. Initial deaths were estimated at 41,800, but many thousands more died subsequently or were never counted due to incineration, burial beneath rubble or having been blown to bits. The four-raid total may have equaled Great Britain's official total losses for the war of 41,509, THE BOMBER COMMAND DIARIES, published in l985 by Penguin Books, London, states that the August 2-3 raid largely failed due to thunder-storms. Thus most of the destruction was wrought in three raids. In THE DESTRUCTION OF DRESDEN Irving wrote that "When rescue teams finally cleared their way into hermetically sealed bunkers and shelters, after several weeks, the heat generated inside had been so intense that nothing remained of their occupants: only a soft undulating layer of gray ash was left in one bunker, from which the number of victims could only be estimated as 'between 250 and 300'..." Despite the highly restrictive censorship regulations applied to Allied war correspondents (already deemed supportive of the Allied cause as a condition of clearance) fairly large bits and pieces of what the bomber offense was about leaked to some prominent civilian figures. In England, among the most telling critics were the country's two premier military historians, Maj. Gen. J.F.C. Fuller and Captain Basil Liddell Hart. In August, l943 Fuller drafted an article (evidently not published) the LONDON EVENING STANDARD in which he stated: "The worst devastation of the Goths, Vandals, Huns, Seljuks and Mongols pales into insignificance when compared to the material and moral damage now wrought . . ." Following the thousand-plane Cologne raid Hard drafted a private "reflection" that observed: "It will be ironical if the defenders of civilization depend for victory upon the most barbaric, and unskilled, way of winning a war that the modern world had seen . . . We are not counting for victory on success in the way of degrading it to a new low level . . ." As stated in THE ARMY AIR FORCES IN WORLD WAR II, plans were drawn up in early June, l944 to define the post-D-Day invasion bomber campaign. The recommended priorities to both Bomber Command and the U.S. 8th and 15th Air Force (in Italy) were, in order of priority, oil production, jet and V-weapons, ball bearing plants and tank factories. As Supreme Allied Commander, Dwight D. Eisenhower left both the American commanders (Gens. Spaatz and Doolittle) and Harris free to develop independently their strategic bombing campaigns as they saw fit. It was clearly an opportunity to curtail Harris's incredible excesses. But Eisenhower, essentially a high political functionary in uniform, based higher decisions on the wishers of the President and the Prime Minister. On the scorched road to Dresden there were many occurrences similar to what happened at Hamburg. THE BOMBER COMMAND DIARIES, for the city of Darmstadt on the night of September 11-12, l944, tell that 226 Lancasters and 14 Mosquitoes (light bombers, the four-engine Lancaster being Bomber Command's equivalent of the B-17), produced an outstandingly accurate and concentrated raid on this almost intact city of 120,000 people. A fierce fire area was created in the center and in the districts immediately south and east of the center. Property damage in this area was almost complete. Casualties were very heavy. The deaths of 8,433 people were actually reported to police stations. This figure was made up of: German civilians--1,766 men, 2,743 women and 2,129 children, 936 service personnel, 492 foreign workers and 368 prisoners of war." The United States Strategic Bombing survey, compiled after the war, concluded that deaths in Darmstadt that night may have exceeded the RAF figures (taken from initial German figures) by 5,000 because all deaths were not reported by the 49,200 made homeless by the raid and evacuated from the city. Today, the city of Darmstadt has final figures of 12,300 dead and 70,000 homeless. PART TWO: The Infernal Firestorm-- A Glimpse of Hell Thus a long pattern of operational intent, in which everything on German soil that stood, moved or breathed was considered a legitimate recipient of the bomb bay payloads, had been established long before it became Dresden's turn. To begin with, the city was not an industrial center of even moderate importance. It had been bombed once, some 20 USAAF planes hitting with considerable accuracy the city's small industrial area as a secondary target at midday on October 7, l944 during an attack on the Ruhland oil refinery. This raid was at least consistent with both the publicly stated purpose and propaganda regarding the bombing campaign, in that it was a basically surgical strike against valid targets. The essence of pre-holocaust Dresden was described in David Irving's book: "Not endowed with any one great capital industry like those of Essen and Hamburg, even though Dresden was of comparable size, the city's economy had been sustained in peacetime by its theaters, museums, cultural institutions and home industries." Irving noted that "for the British prisoners of war . . . life could not easily be bettered. The Dresdeners were familiar with the English from pre-war days, when the city had been a cultural center, and many made friends among the prisoners--a large section of which were from 1st Airborne Division contingent captured at Arnhem." The factor of pre-war English familiarity with Dresden, generations of students having visited it on the Grand Tour, would play a major part in the raid's aftermath. Dresden's fate had been sealed at the February 4-11, l945 FDR-Churchill-Stalin conference at Yalta. Reports about the Dresden decision center on Stalin's desire to see it savaged as a means of enhancing the Red Army's offensive by jamming up German troop movements. U.S. Chief of Staff George C. Marshall announced publicly that Dresden had been attacked at Stalin's specific request, although after the war the Soviets and East Germans repeatedly referred to the raid as a "diabolical plan" of Churchill's "to kill as many people as possible." Roosevelt and Churchill were of course well aware of Dresden's particulars, including the fact that it was a hospital, prisoner of war and, now, refugee center. The concession was allegedly made to soothe the increasingly arrogant and intransigent Kremlin dictator. But given the fact that at Yalta Stalin achieved control over Eastern Europe, in-effect control of Mongolia, Japan's Kurile Islands, and occupation zone in Korea and a guarantee of $20 billion in eventual German reparations, one might have thought that the bear had been amply fed. After Yalta and the war, Churchill of course went into his "deeply suspicious of Stalin" act just as he had feigned surprise at FDR's unconditional surrender announcement at Casablanca. However, just before flying from Russia on February 14, at the very moment of Dresden's awesome trauma, he lauded his hosts' "great leader." And the ever theatrical PM, who certainly ranked with fellow dipsomaniac thespians John Barrymore and Richard Burton, lauded "The redeemed Crimea, cleansed by Russian valor from the foul taint of the Huns." Dresden had once been a pivotal communications and rail center important to the Wehrmacht. But as Irving notes, by the time it received its fatal blow, "The city's strategic significance was scarcely marginal . . . " it was home to 630,000 permanent residents, its numbers swelled by German and Allied wounded, Allied POWs and hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing areas in the path of the Red Army's advance. The city's authorities were convinced that a non strategic city with a large number of military hospitals, POW compounds, etc., would not receive anything approaching the annihilative smashing so many other cities and towns had undergone. Therefore most of the air defense and flak batteries that would otherwise be in Dresden were transferred to areas where it was assumed they'd be needed. In THE BOMBER COMMAND WAR DIARIES the basic facts of the February 13-14 Dresden raids were recounted: "796 Lancasters and 9 Mosquitoes were dispatched in two separate raids and dropped 1,478 tons of high explosives and 1,182 tons of incendiary bombs . . . 311 American B-17s dropped 771 tons of bombs on Dresden the next day, with the railway yards as their aiming point. Part of the American Mustang (P-51) fighter escort was ordered to strafe traffic on the roads around Dresden to increase the chaos. The Americans bombed Dresden again on the 15th and on March 2 but it was generally accepted that it was the RAF night raid which caused the most serious damage." Of the American strafing Irving noted: "British prisoners who had been released from their burning camps were among those to suffer the discomfort of machine gun attacks . . . Wherever columns of tramping people were marching in or out of the city they were pounced on by the fighters, and machine-gunned or raked with cannon fire." On February 12 the last pre-attack refugee train had pulled into Dresden. People continued to flow into the city from the East, in foot or packed into horse drawn carts. Dresden had not been declared an open city, but few who would attempt to justify its devastation could deny its in-effect status as such. One RAF Flight Engineer recalled that the brightness of the fires below allowed him to fill in his log sheet by the light that shot skyward. A crewman of another plane wrote: "I confess to taking a glance downward as the bombs fell, and I witnessed the shocking sight of a city on fire from end to end. Dense smoke could be seen drifting away from Dresden, leaving a brilliantly illuminated view of the town. My immediate reaction was a stunned reflection on the comparison between the holocaust below and the warnings of the evangelists in Gospel meetings before the war." David Irving noted that "In many cases during the night raids, people, finding that dense suffocating fumes from above were rolling down into the unventilated basements, broke down the wall breaches. Thus the smoke had access to the next-door cellars as well." One survivor wrote: "The detonations shook the cellar walls. The sound of the explosives mixed with a new, strange sound, which seemed to come closer and closer, the sound of a thundering waterfall; it was the sound of the mighty tornado howling into the inner city." Retired Major James "Knobby" Walsh was an Army Air Corps bombardier in WWII and is a subscriber THE BARNES REVIEW. He forwarded the following passage from Edward Jablonski's AIR WAR--WINGS OF FIRE (Doubleday & Co.): "The horror and the terror on the ground was incredible, destruction was extensive, and the loss of life was frightful. The beautiful little city, its population swollen by an influx of refugees from the east fleeing before the Russians bent on revenge, pillage and rape, and its predominantly wooden buildings, ideal for incendiaries, all but vanished in a howling whirlwind of incineration. Although it is unlikely that the true toll will ever be known, the number of people probably killed at Dresden was about 135,000 (as compared with the atomic bombing of Hiroshima, which killed 71,379)." In the l966 book ORDEAL BY FIRE author Roul Tunley described the Dresden experience of an American woman from New Jersey, Anne Wahle, who had gone to prewar Europe as the wife of an Austrian diplomat. She had survived the Hamburg raids and she and her three children would eventually walk and ride hundreds of miles from Dresden to safety. She recalled: "I had never seen anything like it. Howling gusts of hurricane force whipped flames in all directions. Nothing seemed to be spared. I watched little trains of flame race along garden paths and ignite a tree of even a stone ornament." In THE FIRST CASUALTY Knightly wrote: "The flames ate everything organic, everything that would burn. People died by the thousands: cooked, incinerated or suffocated. Then American planes came the next day to machine-gun survivors as they struggled to the banks of the Elbe." Knightly added that "Precise casualty figures will never be known. The German authorities stopped counting when the known dead reached 25,000 and 35,000 were still missing. Some post-war sources put the number of dead at from 100,000 to 130,000, which would greatly exceed the number killed in the atom-bombing of Hiroshima . . . Dresden was merely a staging center for a half million refugees >from Silesia. The (rail) yards were not even attacked. There were no ammunition workshops and factories, only a small works making optical lenses for gun sights." PART THREE: Aftermath: Coverups and Lies The horror extended well into the aftermath, with countless thousands lacking a bare subsistence food ration in addition to adequate winter shelter. Tens of thousands with various degrees of burns and other injuries went unattended. Dresden had 19 major hospitals, all of them damaged to some degree during the raids and three of them totally wiped out. As the Allied air brass knew, Dresden was a center for convalescing Wehrmacht personnel from all fronts as well as for Allied wounded, a large number of them airmen. Fully realizing the extent of the destruction and the circumstances under which it was meted out, London moved to cover its position even before the follow-up American raid. At 9 am on February 14 the Air Ministry released a full-length bulletin. Irving wrote: "In a statement describing the target city in unusual detail, the Air Ministry stressed the vital importance of Dresden to the enemy: As the center of a railway network and as a great industrial town it had become of the greatest value for controlling the German defenses against Marshal Koniev's Armies." Knightly pointed out that Ministry of Defense records show that no war correspondents flew with the bombers, and that there were no eyewitness accounts save for "a few air crews interviewed on their return, and they were given various concocted explanations as to why they were bombing the city--they were attacking German army headquarters, destroying an arms dump, knocking out an industrial area, or even 'wiping out a large poison gas plant." >From THE FIRST CASUALTY: "The truth first came out in Sweden. At 10:15 am on February 15 a Swedish news bulletin transmitted in Danish to occupied Denmark said that the death toll in Dresden was already between 20,000 and 35,000." Then newspapers in neutral countries began printing stories of the raid. On February 17, the Associated Press reported throughout America: "Allied air chiefs have made the long awaited decision to adopt deliberate terror bombing of German population centers as a ruthless expedient of hastening Hitler's doom." Despite the incredible chronological inaccuracy of the "long-awaited decision," the Dresden story, basically was out. But British censors placed a solid clamp on the true nature of Dresden. They fed the Fleet Street press the official "major strategic target" line. Thus following the raid, readers of the EVENING STANDARD read the lead story, under the headline "The Blasting of Dresden" and accompanied by a front page picture of bombs dropping on indistinguishable targets, without learning anything the government wished withheld. In America, however, millions registered feelings of rage, disillusion and concern Marshall's statement that the raid was staged at Stalin's request set off some anti-administration sentiments in Congress. But overall, Roosevelt's bitter enemies were wary of exposing themselves to accusations of criticism during wartime, a factor that had severely curtailed the Dewey-Rricker Republican ticket in 1944 when FDR won his fourth term. In volume three of THE ARMY AIR FORCES IN WORLD WAR 88, published by the University of Chicago press, it was stated that "General Arnold was disconcerted about the publicity" that the AP story had generated and that "Eisenhower heard all about the issue, and AAF headquarters, aware of the damaging impression the recent publicity had made, took steps to prevent another break." England's Fleet Street blackout did not prevent members of Parliament from becoming privy to Dresden's slaughter. Many MP, especially those who had fond memories of the city, reacted with outrage. Churchill, the holocaust's ultimate button-pusher, became the target of considerable friendly fire. In BOMBER HARRIS Seaward noted that 'The whole question of the Allied bombing policy suddenly came under question." In March, Churchill wrote the Chiefs of Staff: "Lit seems to me that the moment has come when the question of bombing the German cities simply for the sake of increasing the terror, though under other pretexts, should be reviewed." Saward found it amazing that "Churchill, of all people" would reach this conclusion in the wake of severe criticism. He noted that the PM "had been the greatest proponent of destroying Germany city by city . . ." Few today realize that in early l945 the U.S. carried out from England six robot missions of B-17s, each loaded with 10 tons of explosives. The planes were "war weary" craft that had been stripped of armor and armament. Pilots got the drone bombers airborne and pointed toward their German targets, then bailed out. None had been successful in hitting specific targets, and the project was scrapped due to British objections. Air Chief Marshal Sir Charles Portal had expressed fears that the Germans, with a great number of planes but few surviving pilots, would be tempted to reply in kind. As to the German V-1 and V-2 rocket bombs that fell on England in l944, few dispute that they were aimed at strategic targets but that there were a large number of civil casualties. Following the war, involved American and British air commanders would fudge and rationalize the years of day-night civilian slaughter. A B-17 navigator, now a lawyer in Northern Virginia, recalls that in raiding Munich their PMI (Point of Maximum Impact) target was the large fountain in the center of the city's business district at high noon, "in order that we could catch the most people out at lunchtime." But "Bomber" Harris remained unmoved by the slaughter, devastation of cultural landmarks and public criticism. The Cromwellian commander raged against any diversions of Bomber Command's mission. In a March 29, l945 letter to Air Vice Marshal Sir Norman Bottomly, Harris wrote: "The (public) feeling, such as there is, over Dresden could easily be explained by a psychiatrist. It is connected with German bands and Dresden shepherdesses." And in writing Bottomry, a man who knew all the grim details of the Dresden reality, Harris prompted the question of who might better benefit >from the ministrations of a psychiatrist: "Actually Dresden was a mass of munitions works, and intact government center, and a key transportation point to the Least. It is now none of these." Writing of Harris after the war, the compilers of the official British history of WWII wrote: "Sir Arthur Harris made a habit of seeing only one side of a question, and then exaggerating it. He had a tendency to confuse advice with interference, criticism with sabotage and evidence with propaganda. However, Harris was seen quite differently by America's two most celebrated figures of that period. In a July 13, l945 letter that went well beyond cordial recognition, Supreme Allied Commander Dwight D. Eisenhower wrote Harris: "My gratitude to you is a small token for the magnificent service which you have rendered, and my simple expression of thanks sounds totally inadequate. Time and opportunity prohibit the chance I should like to shake you and your men by the hand, and thank each of you personally for all that you have done." On October 17, 1944 Harris had been awarded America's Legion of Merit with the degree of Chief Commander. The citation concluded: "He performed his complex task with inspiring leadership and with outstanding cooperation, skill and determination, reflecting great credit upon the service he represents and upon the Armed forces of the United Nations. (Signed) Franklin D. Roosevelt." And of the long and terrible bombing offensive that emanated from Cherwell and Churchill, and that cost 50,000 American and 55,000 British and Commonwealth lives, Max Hastings observed: "It is almost beyond belief that the German army continued to resist so effectively even amidst the rubble of a nation. The Wehrmacht's dogged retreat, and the continued output from the factories until the final weeks, rendered the concept of moral bombing finally absurd." As with Cromwell in Ireland and Roberts and Kitchener in South Africa, Sir Arthur Harris had broken their walls. But he had not broken their courage. ------------------- This was from The Barnes Review 130 Third Street, SE Washington, DC 20003 1-714-548=5530 "...To Bring History into Accord With the Facts" In the tradition of the Father of Historical Revisionism Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes [duplicated bbs ad deleted] -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Sat Jul 8 04:01:37 PDT 1995 Article: 5970 of alt.politics.white-power Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!panix!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!steel.interlog.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: THE TRUTH ABOUT SIMON WIESENTHAL: Part 1 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 23:51:06 GMT Lines: 120 [duplicated bbs ad deleted] >From _The Journal of Historical Review_, Vol. 5, Number 1 (Spring 1984): The Sleight-of-Hand of Simon Wiesenthal "Falsus in Uno, Falsus in Omnibus" Mark Weber and Keith Stimely For many years Simon Wiesenthal has made a highly successful career for himself as the world's foremost "Nazi hunter." The American mass media have elevated him to secular sainthood and the U.S. Congress awarded him a special gold medal. In reality Wiesenthal is a proven liar. The most infamous example was his charge that an elderly Polish refugee living in Chicago, Frank Walus, was a Gestapo official responsible for killing Jews during the Second World War. Only a long and costly court battle by an unusually tenacious attorney saved Walus from almost certain death. The government prosecutors were forced to drop their case ignominously. The popular Chicago _Weekly Reader_ and the highly respected _Chicago Lawyer_ published devastating expose~s of Wiesenthal's role in the frame-up of Walus. Eventually even the Washington _Post_ acknowledged his sordid role in the affair. In Canada, the Toronto _Sun_, commenting on another "war criminal" case in which Wiesenthal was involved, and the accused finally determined to be innocent, editorialized: "It seems that material provided by professional Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal is wrong, but repeated [by the print and broadcast media] anyway." Recently yet another example of Wiesenthal's blatant distortion of historical truth came to light. In 1946 Wiesenthal published a book in Austria entitled _KZ Mauthausen_ [Concentration Camp Mauthausen]. It consists mainly of mediocre sketches by the young "Nazi hunter" purporting to represent the horrors of the Mauthausen concentration camp. One of the drawings depicts three Mauthausen inmates bound to posts who had apparently been sadistically put to death by the Germans. Another graphic example of murderous Nazi treatment of inmates! Actually, the sketch is completely phoney. In January 1945 _Life_ magazine published a series of photos graphically recording the firing-squad execution of three German soldiers who had been caught operating as spies behind the lines during the "Battle of the Bulge." Photographer Johnny Florea recorded the execution in December 1944 near Bastogne. The three soldiers died "singing patriotic German songs," _Life_ reported. In its issue of 16 December 1983 the West German weekly newspaper _Deutsche National-Zeitung_ published the _Life_ photos and the Wiesenthal sketch together. Even a quick comparison makes clear beyond any doubt that the "Nazi hunter" HAD COPIED HIS DRAWING FROM THE PHOTOGRAPHS. Wiesenthal's gruesome depiction of German barbarism in Mauthausen is actually the deceitful product of his malicious mind. Another example of the generally spurious character of Wiesenthal's 1946 Mauthausen book is his citation therein of the supposed "death bed" confession of Commandant Franz Ziereis that FOUR MILLION [sic] inmates were gassed to death at the Hartheim satellite camp. Along with Dachau, Ravensbrueck, and Buchenwald, "Holocaust" historians no longer even mention Mauthausen as a "death camp" or gassing center. According to the official tourist brochure now distributed at the camp, a total of only 206,000 persons WERE EVER INMATES at Mauthausen and its satellite camps. Question: How long can a self-respecting world continue to even put up with, let along shower honors on, this man Simon Wiesenthal -- one of the biggest lying fakers of our age? [duplicated bbs ad deleted] -- From aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca Sat Jul 8 04:01:45 PDT 1995 Article: 5971 of alt.politics.white-power Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!steel.interlog.com!io.org!torfree!freenet.toronto.on.ca!aq220 From: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Subject: THE TRUTH ABOUT SIMON WIESENTHAL: Part 2 Message-ID: Sender: aq220@torfree.net (Marc Lemire) Reply-To: aq220@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Marc Lemire) Organization: Toronto Free-Net Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 23:52:42 GMT Lines: 416 [duplicated bbs ad deleted] *** SIMON WIESENTHAL: Bogus "Nazi Hunter" *** by Mark Weber _____________________________________________________________________ Simon Wiesenthal is a living legend. In a formal White House ceremony in August 1980, a teary-eyed President Carter presented the world's foremost "Nazi hunter" with a special gold medal awarded by the U.S. Congress. President Reagan praised him in November 1988 as one of the "true heroes" of this century. He is the recipient of West Germany's highest decoration, and one of the world's most important Holocaust organizations bears his name: the Simon Wiesenthal Center of Los Angeles. He was portrayed in flattering terms by the late Laurence Olivier in the 1978 film fantasy "The Boys From Brazil," and by Ben Kingsley in the April 1989 made-for-television movie "The Murderers Among Us: The Simon Wiesenthal Story." Wiesenthal's reputation is undeserved. The man known as the "Holocaust's Avenging Angel" has a well-documented record of reckless disregard for truth. He has lied about his own wartime experiences, misrepresented his postwar "Nazi-hunting" achievements, and has spread vile falsehoods about alleged German atrocities. He is certainly no moral authority. Fraudulent "Nazi Hunter" Wiesenthal's reputation as the world's foremost "Nazi Hunter" is completely undeserved. His greatest achievement in more than thirty years of searching for "Nazi criminals" was his alleged role in locating and capturing Adolf Eichmann. (Eichmann headed the wartime SS Jewish Affairs department. He was kidnapped by Israeli agents in Buenos Aires in 1960 and was hanged in Jerusalem after a trial that received worldwide media attention.) But Isser Harel, the Israeli official who headed the team that captured Eichmann, has declared unequivocally that Wiesenthal had "absolutely nothing" to do with the capture. "All the information supplied by Wiesenthal before and in anticipation of the operation was utterly worthless, and sometimes even misleading and of negative value," Harel says. (Harel is a former head of both the Mossad and Shin Bet, Israel's foreign and domestic security agencies.) In addition, Arnold Forster, general counsel of the Anti- Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, the influential Zionist organization, reported in his book _Square One_ that just before the Israelis seized Eichmann in Argentina, Wiesenthal was placing him in both Japan and Saudi Arabia. One of Wiesenthal's most spectacular cases involved a Chicago man named Frank Walus. In a letter dated Dec. 10, 1974, he charged that Walus "delivered Jews to the Gestapo" in Czestochowa and Kielce in Poland during the war. This letter prompted the U.S. government's investigation and legal campaign against Walus. The _Washington Post_ dealt with the case in a May 1981 article entitled "The Nazi Who Never Was: How a witchhunt by judge, press and investigators branded an innocent man a war criminal." The lengthy piece, which was copyrighted by the American Bar Association, reported: * In January 1977, the United States government accused a * * Chicagoan named Frank Walus of having committed atrocities in * * Poland during World War II. * * * * In the following years, this retired factory worker went * * into debt in order to raise more than $60,000 to defend himself. * * He sat in a courtroom while 11 Jewish survivors of the Nazi * * occupation of Poland testified that they saw him murder * * children, an old woman, a young woman, a hunchback and others... * * * * Overwhelming evidence shows that Walus was not a Nazi war * * criminal, that he was not even in Poland during World War II. * * * * ...In an atmosphere of hatred and loathing verging on * * hysteria, the government persecuted an innocent man. * * * * In 1974, Simon Wiesenthal, the famous "Nazi hunter" of * * Vienna, denounced Walus as "a Pole in Chicago who performed * * duties with the Gestapo in the ghettos of Czestochowa and Kielce * * and handed over a number of Jews to the Gestapo." * In other words, even though Wiesenthal's "reports" about Walus were actually nothing more than empty rumors, the "Nazi hunter" went ahead and denounced him anyway. In April 1978, during a period when the case was under advisement, Wiesenthal visited Chicago and gave interviews taking credit for the Walus case. "How Nazi-Hunter Helped Find Walus," was the headline in the daily _Sun-Times_ newspaper. Wiesenthal told the paper that he "never had a case of mistaken identity," and added: "I know there are thousands of people who wait for my mistake." It was only after an exhausting legal battle that the man who was vilified and physically attacked as "the butcher of Kielce" was finally able to prove that he had spent the war years as a peaceful farm laborer in Germany. Wiesenthal's irresponsible and reckless behavior in the Walus case should have been enough to permanently discredit him as a reliable investigator. But his Teflon reputation survived even this. Wrong About Mengele Much of the Wiesenthal myth is based on his hunt for Josef Mengele, the wartime physician at Auschwitz known as the "Angel of Death." Time and time again, Wiesenthal claimed to be close on Mengele's heels. Wiesenthal reported that his informant had "seen" or "just missed" the elusive physician in Peru, Chile, Brazil, Spain, Greece, and half a dozen locations in Paraguay. One of the closest shaves came in the summer of 1960. Wiesenthal reported that Mengele had been hiding out on a small Greek island, from where he escaped by just a few hours. Wiesenthal continued to peddle the story, complete with precise details, even after a reporter whom he had hired to check it out informed him that the tale was false from beginning to end. Mengele regularly dined at the finest restaurants in Asuncion, the Paraguayan capital, Wiesenthal said in 1977, and supposedly drove around the city with a bevy of armed guards in his black Mercedes Benz. Wiesenthal announced in 1985 that he was "100 per cent sure" that Mengele had been hiding out in Paraguay until at least June 1984, and charged that the Mengele family in West Germany knew exactly where. As it turned out, Wiesenthal was completely wrong. It was later definitely established that Mengele had died in 1979 in Brazil, where he had been living for years in anonymous poverty. In truth, the bulging Mengele file in Wiesenthal's Vienna "Documentation Center" was such a jumble of useless information that, in the words of the London _Times_, it "only sustained his self-confirmatory myths and gave scant satisfaction to those who apparently needed a definitive answer to Mengele's fate." Even Israel's former ambassador to Paraguay, Benjamin Varon, cautiously criticized the phony Mengele campaign in 1983: "Wiesenthal makes periodic statements that he is about to catch him, perhaps since Wiesenthal must raise funds for his activities and the name Mengele is always good for a plug." "Human Soap" Wiesenthal has given circulation and credence to one of the most scurrilous Holocaust stories, the charge that the Germans manufactured soap from the corpses of murdered Jews. According to this tale, the letters "RIF" in bars of German-made soap allegedly stood for "Pure Jewish Fat" ("Rein judisches Fett"). In reality, the initials stood for "National Center for Industrial Fat Provisioning" ("Reichsstelle fur industrielle Fettversorgung"). Wiesenthal promoted the "human soap" legend in articles published in 1946 in the Austrian Jewish community paper _Der Neue Weg_ ("The New Path"). In an article entitled "RIF," he wrote: "The terrible words 'Transport for soap' were first heard at the end fo 1942. It was in the [Polish] General Government, and the factory was in Galacia, in Belzec. From April 1942 until May 1943, 900,000 Jews were used as raw material in this factory." After the corpses were turned into various raw materials, Wiesenthal wrote, "The rest, the residual fat stuff, was used for soap production." He continued: * After 1942 people in the General Government knew quite well * * what the RIF soap meant. The civilized world may not believe the * * joy with which the Nazis and their women in the General * * Government thought of this soap. In each piece of soap they saw * * a Jew who had been magically put there, and had thus been * * prevented from growing into a second Freud, Ehrlich or Einstein. * In another imaginative article published in 1946 entitled "Belzec Soap Factory," Wiesenthal alleged that masses of Jews were exterminated in electrocution showers: * The people, pressed together and driven on by the SS, * * Latvians and Ukrainians, go through the open door into the * * "bath." Five hundred persons could fit at a time. The floor of * * the "bath chamber" was made of metal and shower heads hung from * * the ceiling. When the room was full, the SS turned on the 5,000 * * volts of electric current in the metal plate. At the same time * * water poured from the shower heads. A short scream and the * * execution was over. An SS chief physician named Schmidt * * determined through a peep hole that the victims were dead. The * * second door was opened and the "corpse commando" came in and * * quickly removed the dead. It was ready for the next 500. * Today no reputable historian accepts the stories that Jewish corpses were manufactured into bars of soap or that Jews were electrocuted to death at Belzec (or anywhere). Different Stories In spite of all that has been written about him, what Wiesenthal did during the war years under German occupation is still not clear. He has given disturbingly conflicting stories in three separate accounts of his wartime activities. Soviet Engineer or Factory Mechanic ? In a 1948 interrogation, Wiesenthal declared under oath that "between 1939 and 1941" he was a "Soviet chief engineer working in Lvov and Odessa." But in his 1967 autobiography, _The Murderers Among Us_, he claimed that he spent the period between mid-September 1939 and June 1941 in Soviet-ruled Lvov, where he worked "as a mechanic in a factory that produced bedsprings." After the Germans took control of Galicia province in June 1941, Wiesenthal was interned for a time in the Janowska concentration camp near Lvov, from where he was transferred a few months later to a camp affiliated with the repair works (OAW) in Lvov of the Ostbahn ("Eastern Railroad") of German-ruled Poland. Partisan Fighter ? The next segment of Wiesenthal's life - from October 1943 to June 1944 - is the most obscure, and his accounts of this period are contradictory. During his 1948 interrogation, Wiesenthal said that he fled from a camp in Lvov and joined a "partisan group which operated in the Tarnopol- Kamenopodolsk area." He said that "I was a partisan from October 6, 1943, until the middle of February 1944," and declared that his unit fought against Ukrainian forces, both of the SS "Galicia" division and of the independent UPA partisan force. Wiesenthal said that he held the rank of lieutenant and then major, and was responsible for building bunkers and fortification lines. He suggested that this (supposed) partisan unit was part of the _Armia Ludowa_ ("People's Army"), the Polish Communist military force established and controlled by the Soviets. He said that he and other partisans slipped into Lvov in February 1944, where they were "hidden by friends of the A.L. ["People's Army"] group." On June 13, 1944, his group was captured by the German Secret Field Police. Wiesenthal told much the same story in a sworn January 1949 statement. He said that he fled from internment in early October 1943 and then "fought against the Germans as a partisan in the forest" for eight months - from Oct. 2, 1943, to March 1944. After that, he was "in hiding" in Lvov from March to June 1944. Wiesenthal tells a totally different story in his 1967 autobiography. He reports there that after escaping from the Ostbahn repair works on Oct. 2, 1943, he lived in hiding in the houses of various friends until June 13, 1944, when he was discovered by Polish and German police and returned to a concentration camp. He makes no mention of any partisan membership or activity. According to both his 1948 interrogation and his 1967 autobiography, he tried to commit suicide on June 15, 1944, by cutting his wrists. Remarkably, though, he was saved from death by German SS doctors and recovered in an SS hospital. He remained in the Lvov concentration camp "with double rations" for a time, and then, he reports in his autobiography, he was transferred to various work camps. He spent the remaining chaotic months until the end of the war in different camps until he was liberated from Mauthausen (near Linz) by American forces on May 5, 1945. Did Wiesenthal invent a past as a heroic wartime partisan? Or did he later try to suppress his record as a Communist fighter? Or is the true story altogether different - and too shameful to admit? Did Wiesenthal voluntarily work for his wartime oppressors? That's the accusation leveled by Austrian Chancellor Bruno Kreisky, himself of Jewish ancestry and leader for many years of his country's Socialist party. During a wide-ranging interview with foreign journalists in November 1975, Kreisky charged Wiesenthal with using "Mafia methods," rejected his pretense of "moral authority," and suggested that he was an agent for the German authorities. Mauthausen Myths Before the "Nazi hunter" came the unscrupulous propagandist. In a sensational book published in 1946, _KZ Mauthausen_, Wiesenthal quoted extensively from the supposed "death bed confession" of Mauthausen Commandant Franz Ziereis, according to which FOUR MILLION people were gassed to death with carbon monoxide at the nearby Hartheim satellite camp. This claim is totally absurd, and no serious Holocaust historian still accepts it. Also according to the Ziereis "confession" cited by Wiesenthal, the Germans supposedly killed another TEN MILLION people in Poland, Lithuania and Latvia. In fact, this "confession" is utterly fraudulent and was obtained by torture. Years later, Wiesenthal was still lying about Mauthausen. In an April 1983 interview with the daily newspaper _USA TODAY_, he said of his experience in Mauthausen: "I was one of 34 prisoners alive out of 150,000 who had been put there." This is a blatant falsehood. The years have apparently not been kind to Wiesenthal's memory, because in his own autobiography he wrote that "almost 3,000 prisoners died in Mauthausen after the Americans liberated us on May 5, 1945." According to the _Encyclopedia Judaica_, at least 212,000 inmates survived internment in the Mauthausen camp complex. "Commercializing the Holocaust" Simon Wiesenthal and the Los Angeles Center that bears his name "commercialize" and "trivialize" the Holocaust, according to the director of Israel's Yad Veshem Holocaust center. The charge was reported by the Israeli daily newspaper _Ha'aretz_ in December 1988. The charge: "The displeasure of Yad Veshem over what it sees as the commercialization of the Holocaust by the Wiesenthal Center has long been known, but this is the most open attack yet." The Los Angeles Center pays Wiesenthal $75,000 a year to use his name, the Yad Veshem director said. "The Jewish people does many vulgar things," the report added, "but the Wiesenthal Center raises it to a complete level: The optimum use of sensitive issues in order to raise money..." Kreisky Sums Up Wiesenthal is not always wrong, of course. In 1975 he acknowledged in a letter published in the British periodical _Books & Bookmen_ that "there were no extermination camps on German soil." He thus implicitly conceded the claims made at the postwar Nuremburg Tribunal and elsewhere that Buchenwald, Dachau and other camps in Germany proper were "extermination camps" are not true. Bruno Kreisky once summed up his unambiguous attitude toward the "Nazi hunter" in these words: * The engineer Wiesenthal, or whatever else his title is, * * hates me because he knows that I despise his activity. The * * Wiesenthal group is a quasi-political mafia that works against * * Austria with disgraceful methods. Wiesenthal is known as someone * * who isn't very careful about the truth, who is not very selective * * about his methods and who uses tricks. He pretends to be the * * "Eichmann hunter," even though everyone knows that this was the * * work of a secret service, and that Wiesenthal only takes credit * * for that. * It is difficult to say just what drives this remarkable man. Is it a craving for fame and praise? Or is he trying to live down a shameful episode from his past? Wiesenthal clearly enjoys the praise he receives. "He is a man of considerable ego, proud of [his] testimonials and honorary degrees," the _Los Angeles Times_ has reported. Kreisky has given a simpler explanation. He said that Wiesenthal is "driven by hatred" ("von Hass diktiert"). In light of his well-documented record of deception, lies and incompetence, the extravagent praise heaped upon this contemptible man is a sorry reflection of the venal corruptibility and unprincipled self-deception of our age. _____________________________________________________________________ This leaflet is an edited version of an essay that originally appeared in _The Journal of Historical Review_ (Winter 1989-90, Vol. 9, No. 4). Complete source references are published with the essay. _The Journal_ is published quarterly by the Institute for Historical Review. Mark Weber, a member of the Editorial Advisory Board of the Institute for Historical Review, studied history at the University of Illinois (Chicago), the University of Munich, Porland State University, and Indiana University (M.A., 1977). For five days in March 1988, he testified as an expert witness on the "final solution" and the Holocaust issue in a Toronto District Court case. 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