00011152.gif _Interview with Louis Lochner_ Hollywood, California, June 23, 1943 Lochner had little to add concerning Hitler which he had not written in his book. He feels sure, however, that Hitler himself is the moving spirit behind the Jewish problem and that he is primarily responsible for the treatment accorded the Jews throughout Europe. He claims that at one time Hitler actually foamed at the mouth when the Jewish question was introduced into a conversation. Just the word Jew set him off on a lengthy tirade in the course of which he made the assertion that Germany could not permit Jews within its borders because as a country it was not strong enough to digest them. He also said that some countries could assimilate them without too much danger to the national character but that this was not true of the Germans; that the Jew only served to corrupt the Germans and always remained a disturbing factor. Lochner also reported that Hitler acted in very much the same manner one time when he had an interview with Herbert Hoover and the word _democracy_ was mentioned. His rage and his insults reached such a point that Hoover had to remind him that he was a former President of a democracy. Hitler then quieted down very quickly and changed the subject. Lochner is under the impression that Hitler is suffering from an inferiority complex for which he is always trying to compensate. He cannot tolerate anyone who considers himself superior or refuses to permit him to play the dominant role. At one time, for example, a state luncheon was being given in honor of Eckener for some of his achievements with Zeppelins. Eckener had always refused to acknowledge Hitler's greatness or to be submissive to him in any way. Hitler appeared at the luncheon and since the guests directed their attentions primarily to Eckener, Hitler abruptly rose from the table and left without apologies. Lochner commented that all of Hitler's followers acted like whipped dogs in his presence. When interviewed Hitler stares directly into the eyes of person for some little time and then turns his eyes to the ceiling of the room and rarely looks at his guest again. Lochner believes that Hitler thinks that he has really a hypnotic power in his eyes and that the initial stare is an attempt on his part to hypnotize his guest. Lochner believes that Hitler has suffered from injury to his genital organs which has incapacitated him for normal sexual relations. He says that among his intimates that Hitler is frequently referred jokingly as the "wart man" and for this reason he assumed that Hitler had lost at least a part of his penis. At one time he asked Hirsch of the moving picture industry what Hitler did with all the actresses that he invited to his parties and to entertain him late at night. Hirsch said that as far as he knew this never went any farther than Hitler pawing them over and feeling them which seemed to give him great pleasure. What seemed to give him even greater pleasure, however, was for the girls to tell him in detail the circumstances under which they were first seduced. Even on very short acquaintance he almost invariably asked them to tell him about it as well as about later affairs they they might have had. 00011153.gif page 2 Hitler is very fond of Mrs. Goebbels. He frequently has her at the Chancellery to supervise arrangements for his parties and in the past she has sometimes spent weeks at Berchtesgaden while Hitler was staying there. He has considerable respect for her opinions and since she enjoys and does everything in her power to further it. One of her techniques for doing so is to prepare special dishes which Hitler is particularly fond of. The other is to keep him informed of her private life which is always fraught with marital difficulties. On several occasions Hitler had to step into the picture and reestablish some harmony in the Goebbels family. Lochner also spoke of Hitler's technique of playing off one powerful subordinate against the others in order to keep them from becoming a threat to himself. When one of them succeeds in becoming too powerful and assumes that he is indispensable, Hitler puts him in the doghouse for the time being and begins to cater to the others. Very seldom, however, does he leave one of his immediate subordinates in the doghouse permanently. He is much more apt to liquidate them if they are of no further use to him. Lochner also commented on the fact that Hitler is continuously on his guard and takes extreme measures to assure his safety. He had nothing new to add in this respect.
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