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Subject: Fired Police Chief OVERPAID-$HALF MILLION Instead $199,000 - WHO GOT PAID OFF?
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On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:35:52 -0700, in ab.politics Frank Arthur
 wrote:

The Edmonton Journal, in a banner headline story of half a page, today 26
January 2007, exposes that fired police chief Rayner was for some unknown
reason paid HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, even though his contract had stipulated a
maximum of only $199,000!!

To confirm this info, the Journal had to force the disclosure under Freedom of
Information Act, since the Police Commission did not want the evidence made
public, as to how crooked they are!

In fact city lawyers had advised that if going to court, he would only get
probably $70,000!!

No one on the crooked Police Commission wants to explain why they OVERPAID THE
POLICE CHIEF THEY HAD FIRED, IN CONTRAVENTION OF THE CONTRACT!!

One must now wonder, did someone on the commission get a kickback?

Or, were they personally liable if it went to court, for improperly firing the
disgraced chief?

No matter what, these criminally incompetent crooks in the police commission
gave away HALF A MILLION DOLLARS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS, without just cause!1

Each one should be personally sued to recover this money, NOW!!

Sharx, Sewbeit,Grosvenor - care to comment.



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Subject: Re: Edmonton Snitchline Now Open - Phone # Provided!! 1-866-889-8297
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:07:17 GMT, BenyaminJKramer
 wrote:
>On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 07:58:39 -0700, YitzhakGoldstein
> wrote:

>>The city of Edmonton finally has opened a public snitchline.

>>Members of the public, as well as honest employees, can now 
>>make anonymous calls, to report wrong-doing by city employees.

>>The senior managers and the city unions do not want the phone 
>>number available to the public.

>>As a public service, the phone number is: 1-866-889-8297.

Now even Channel8 News is promoting the service, as a feature in tonight's
news!

>>The service is being handled by a call center in Montreal.

>>They ask what is your connection to the city of Edmonton.
>>The appropriate response, if you own a home, is "SHAREHOLDER".

>>So, Sharx, Grosvenor, Marshall, sewbeit, et al, call in all your complaints
>>about crooks in Edmonton, including about financial irregularities in EPS.

Be sure to call, often, to: 1-866-889-8297

>>And do not forget the crooks in the city tax assessment department, giving
>>preferential treatment to their "friends"

And, all the crooked cops and missing items from the "locked property room",
and so on.

>What has happened to City Auditor David Wiun?
>Did he quit, get fired for asking embarrassing questions, or what?



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From: BenyaminJKramer 
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Subject: Mare Admits EDE/City Incompetent in Getting Businesses - Time to FIRE EDE!! Survey
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In a rare admission of candor, Mare Mandel admitted to media that the 
city and EDE have been completely incompetent in attracting new 
business to Deadmonton.

Mind you, Grosvenor and Sharx have been stating this for years!!

Why should taxpayers be giving the friends of the mare, $8 MILLION a year,
just to wine and dine each other, without any provable results?

To add insult to injury, the Chamber of Commerce gets NO CITY FUNDS, 
but does attract new businesses.

NOW IS THE TIME TO DISSOLVE EDE, AND SAVE THE TAXPAYERS MONEY!!
We do not need to continue to be JEWED!!

Calgary seems to be doing a great job of attracting new businesses, without
jewing the taxpayers.

Same as they did about their photo radar!! Now the revenues go to Calgary, not
some crooks in the states,who bribed local cops in Edmonton!

Perhaps Mare Mandel should hire Ipsos-reid, who themselves left Edmonton for
Calgary, to find out why Edmonton is so undesirable to businesses?

On 2 Feb 2006 11:16:12 -0800, "Loaf of Bread" 
wrote:
>Pat Humphrey wrote:
>> Another major business is leaving Edmonton, citing high costs of doing
>> business.
>>
>> After 17 years, Ipsos-Reid will be gone by the end of the month, joining the
>> exodus of larger firms that have decided to avoid doing business in the
>> anti-business city.
>>
>> Now, all the parasites in town will try to come up with all kinds of excuses,
>> other than the fact is, this city's administration are full of crooks!

The Edmonton Journal quoted the Ipsos executive, who stated the firm
had been in Edmonton 17 years, much longer even than the executive had
been with Ipsos.

Now Ipsos can join all the other businesses leaving Deadmonton, for
better cities.

>According to IPSOS own press release, the call centre has only been
>open five years, not seventeen as you claim.  You also neglect to
>mention one reason for the closure is difficulty finding enough workers
>in the highly competitive labour market.

>Edmonton, AB - Ipsos Reid formally announced today that it will close
>its Edmonton call centre effective February 28, 2006. The Edmonton
>centre has been in operation since October 2000 and employs
>approximately 200 people.

>"The decision to close the Edmonton call centre was a difficult one,
>but it has been increasingly difficult to staff the centre to full
>capacity in the highly competitive labour market of Edmonton," said
>Leslie Speirs, Senior Vice President, CATI Interviewing Services for
>Ipsos. The company noted that the call center lease expires in March
>2006 and with a major tenant slated to take over the space, the call
>centre would have been forced to move and rebuild which carries
>significant business costs associated with it. "These two factors,
>combined, caused us to make the business decision to close our
>operations" she said.

>Work will be shifted to other Ipsos Reid call centres in Winnipeg,
>Ottawa and Montreal. Ipsos will continue to maintain over 750 telephone
>interviewing stations in Canada.

>Ipsos Reid has notified the Alberta Department of Labour and will work
>with them to identify appropriate opportunities for Ipsos employees and
>to access available government support and services. All employees will
>be provided with four weeks of working notice during which we will
>support their efforts to find work. The company has also arranged
>workshops to assist employees in writing resumes and interviewing for
>new positions and are offering a resume- review service to ensure
>employees are well equipped as they begin their job searches.
>
>http://www.ipsos-na.com/news/pressrelease.cfm?id=2961


A few possible reasons would include:
-Edmonton being the crime capital of Canada
-too many crooked cops, with worldwide video of police brutality
-crooked city tax assessors giving special deals to friends
-mare and council subsidizing businesses, at cost of all taxpayers
-incompetent or crooked scholl boards, losing millions with no one charged 
-the fact that the city can not adequately remove snowfalls

Readers, and even business owners, are invited to add their reasons below, 
as to why business owners are avaoiding Deadmonton


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At least the government of Indonesia know what to do with garbage people, such
as drug dealers.

They know, as do other sensible governments in the area, that an executed
criminal will never re-offend!!

Further, an executed waste of skin, will not cost the taxpayers for the upkeep
in some pampering prison system!!

If only the justice systems in Australia & North America would follow suit!!!
Oz could start by executing the 4 Canadian drug trafickers it just arrested!!


On 17 Feb 2006 18:43:24 -0800, "LifeManTalking"  wrote:

>AUSTRALIA - Few Australians have much sympathy for Andrew Chan and
>Myuran Sukumaran, the two drug traffickers sentenced to death in Bali
>this week for their failed bid to smuggle more than 8kg of heroin on to
>the streets of Sydney.

>The lives of too many of their young people have been destroyed by
>drugs and, as innumerable letters to newspapers and callers to talkback
>radio have pointed out, Chan and Sukumaran could never have been in any
>doubt of the risk they took in running narcotics through Indonesia.

>But the prospect of the pair being taken from Kerobokan jail, tied to a
>tree in some lonely clearing, and shot by a paramilitary firing squad
>raises deep and disturbing moral, political and diplomatic dilemmas for
>a nation that last executed a criminal almost 40 years ago and now
>opposes the death penalty worldwide.

>Their own police provided the information that inevitably led to
>Tuesday's sentence. Their Government welcomed the death penalty given
>to the Bali bombers but opposes the same fate for Australian drug
>traffickers, and public opinion is repulsed by the prospect of
>executions at home but inconsistently accepts them abroad.

>It is a diplomatic minefield that Canberra traversed when
>Vietnamese-born Melburnian Van Tuong Nguyen was hanged in Singapore in
>December for taking heroin through Changi airport, despite Australian
>appeals for clemency.

>It is also a minefield that the nation will confront time and again:
>despite repeated warnings and the appalling reality of executions,
>there will always be people foolish enough to strap drugs to their
>bodies or conceal it in their luggage.

>Almost all will pass through Southeast Asia, the source of most of
>Australia's heroin (the Bali Nine consignment originated in Thailand)
>and where every country but Cambodia compulsorily hangs, shoots or
>lethally injects traffickers.

>Mike Phelan, the head of international operations for the Australian
>Federal Police and the man responsible for giving Indonesia the
>information it needed to arrest the Bali Nine, sees no end to the queue
>of couriers the trade calls "mules".

>"It continues to astound me that people attempt importations and move
>drugs through transit countries knowing that the death penalty exists,"
>he told ABC's Australian Story. "Many young lives get thrown away for
>the law of quick dollars."

>The AFP's role in the arrest of the Bali Nine is among the most
>sensitive of the issues facing Prime Minister John Howard, who has
>already weathered a barrage of criticism that has extended even into
>his own party room.

>The AFP caught the first whispers of a major heroin importing run in
>February last year and, in April, asked the Indonesian police to help
>uncover the members of the syndicate and the source of their supplies.

>Between them, the two forces discovered most of the names and built a
>remarkably accurate picture of their operation, including details of a
>previous successful run and another aborted attempt.

>This co-operation has become increasingly commonplace, spurred by the
>determination of all countries in the region to attack drug trafficking
>and terrorism. Intelligence swapping is required under a number of
>treaties.

>"We make no secret of the fact that the AFP has a policy of forward
>engagement where we want to stop the crimes at the source and (prevent
>them) from reaching Australian shores," Phelan said. "That's a practice
>we will continue to operate within."

>What worries many Australians is the fact that the AFP in effect turned
>over a group of young Australians to a country it knew was likely to
>execute them, rather than arresting them when they arrived home.

>The most emotional response centred on Scott Rush, 20, a drug mule who
>was jailed for life. His family, through lawyer Bob Myers, vainly asked
>the AFP to warn Rush of their interest before he left Australia.

>"No Australian public servant has the right to expose any Australian
>citizen to the death penalty," Myers told Australian Story.

>Rush and fellow mules Renae Lawrence, Martin Stephens and Michael
>Czugaj took the AFP to the Federal Court, claiming it had acted
>illegally by exposing them to the death penalty.

>While a large part of public opinion agreed, the court dismissed the
>action.

>The Government has also sidestepped criticism, pointing out that while
>the relevant treaty with Indonesia contains a clause allowing the
>Attorney-General to refuse to provide evidence if an Australian was
>charged with an offence carrying the death penalty, the AFP was free to
>do as it thought best until charges were laid.

>By the time the Bali Nine were formally charged, all the damaging
>evidence had been gathered.

>Phelan is unrepentant: "Basically all transit countries through which
>drugs come to Australia have the death penalty. The AFP cannot pick and
>choose who it chooses to cooperate with."

>International teamwork in the past few years has significantly reduced
>the flow of drugs into Australia. The most recent Australian Crime
>Commission figures, for 2003-04, show the lowest seizures of heroin for
>a decade.

>Refusal to co-operate abroad would outrage regional governments and
>threaten mutual action against other drug syndicates and terrorism.

>Public opinion in Southeast Asia also strongly favours the death
>penalty for traffickers, with polls in Singapore and Thailand showing
>support of up to 80 per cent.

>In Australia, opinion is more confused. A Morgan poll in November found
>that while only 27 per cent of Australians favoured the death penalty
>for murder, 57 per cent believed drug traffickers caught in Asia should
>die.

>Yet in the specific case of Van Nguyen, opinion was evenly divided.

>In The Australian, a newspoll found that more than 50 per cent of
>Australians favoured the death sentence for people convicted of major
>acts of terrorism.

>Howard now has to weigh all these conflicting factors in framing
>Canberra's approach to the executions of Chan and Sukumaran. He has
>said publicly he has no sympathy for the two men but will vigorously
>pursue Australia's long-standing opposition to the death penalty.

>How that is carried out will test Australian diplomacy.

>Apart from the risks to a fragile relationship, observers have pointed
>out that any blunt approach will almost certainly stiffen backs in
>Jakarta and end any chance of clemency.

>Hopes of saving Chan and Sukumaran now rest with Indonesia's
>inconsistent record in carrying out executions, the fact that in recent
>times only three of the more than 85 prisoners on death row have been
>shot, and the lengthy legal road still to be travelled.

>It may be years before their case moves through the Denpasar provincial
>High Court and the two reviews possible through the Supreme Court in
>Jakarta.

>And though President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has said he will never
>grant clemency to drug traffickers, time and quiet diplomacy may change
>his mind.

>Death penalty Australia's double dilemma 
>
>18.02.06
>By Greg Ansley



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Subject: Re: Edmonton Council OVERPAID!! Cut Their Pay!! or better yet, FIRE them!
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 04:32:48 GMT, Sew  wrote:
>On 30 Mar 2006 02:15:16 -0000, Dump The Crooks 
>wrote:

>>Canadian Taxpayers Association has exposed what many Edmonton taxpayers have
>>long suspected.

>>Because the city council and mayor pay themselves by having one third TAXFREE,
>>unlike most honest taxpayers, they are in fact way overpaid for the scams they
>>are endorsing.

>>CTA have confirmed that city councillors are in fact getting the equivalent of
>>$85,110 per year, which is more than other cities are paying.

>>The mayor is seriously overpaid, getting the equivalent of $167,870 a year!!
>>This means that the mayor of Deadmonton gets $6,000 more than Ralph Klein,
>>Premier of Alberta!!

>>Time to dump ALL the mayor and Council, and replace them with honest, hard-working
>>councillors getting a basic pay of $52,000 a year - PLUS BONUSES BASED ON LOWER TAXES
>>AND BETTER PERFORMANCE OF CITY ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS!

>>At the same time, Council should implement ZBB - Zero Based Budgetting, and fire
>>all unnecessary city managers, and close down non-appropriate city departments.
>>Let the federal and provincial governments operate those functions which are THEIR responsibilities, 
>>such as arts, sports,multiculuralism, and welfare, to name a few.

>>Sharx, Sew, Grosvenor - care to comment?

>I am in TOTAL AGREEMENT. I am tired of politicians thinking they can
>just run for office and then increase homeowners taxes just so they
>can give themselves more and more raises. It is NOT RIGHT no matter
>who they are paying to say that it is. The cost of living in Edmonton
>is way lower than Calgary or Toronto, there are fewer people living in
>Edmonton, and most of all which of the people that are running this
>city have a university degree?? After all, in order to make that kind
>of money most people NEED to have a university degree. 

You do not need to have a university degree to be a capable administrator of
billions of dollars.

You should at least be a successful BUSINESS OWNER.
Out of current 13 clowns on council, apparaently only Mike Nickel owns a
successful business.

Further, council members should be HONEST, and not support corruption and
criminality, and similar. This council went so far as to give a payoff of HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS to the former disgraced chief cop, who had been fired for
just cause!!

No honest, competent business managers would have colluded as they did!!



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All of you named Frank Arthur, be sure to reply.

On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 11:55:57 -0500, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Grosvomit the fraud stealing the name Frank Arthur because he is too weak to
>use his own name.
>
>The real Frank Arthur only posts via Bellsouth Internet Group
>and in the gray area where it says Organization: Bellsouth Internet Group
>
>The weak minded Grosvomit posts garbage
>
>
>"Frank Arthur"  wrote in message 
>news:mba9s2pasm8vk7l06it7kqa17e4moo71lv@4ax.com...
>> The original poster had asked, whether there are people willing to pay 
>> towards
>> a one-way ticket to China for child molester Whitmore, and all his crooked




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Notice that since the media gave the story great coverage, on TV and in
newspapers, the real estate parasites have suddenly become silent.

Guess they finally realised that they were giving the great services of
COMFREE lots of free publicity, which would further lesson their ripoff
commissions!!


On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:34:15 GMT, DaleNorton
 wrote:

>On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:21:25 GMT, "Bernie" 
>wrote:
>
>>I bought my current house thru welist last june.   I found it the day it was 
>>listed, as I checked every day.  It was a low down assumable, no qualifying. 
>>I picked it up for $10K...price was $219K in Queensland..a detachted 
>>bungalow.  I'm sure it's over $300K now.  My payments are $600 bi weekly, 
>>and I thought at the time that was alot...boy if I had to buy a house now 
>>I'd be SOL.
>
>>Aren't welist and comfree the same type of thing?
>
>>I was working with a couple of real estate parasites who knew of my 
>>challenging circumstances...divorce, bankruptcy....do you think those 
>>fuckers gave a rats ass about finding a house for me and my children???  If 
>>I didn't do my homework myself, I'd be fucking homeless, or living in that 
>>disgusting rental I was in.
>
>>My boyfriend hired a family 'friend' to list his parents house (he takes 
>>care of his elderly parents) in cranston...that fucking c*nt didn't do 
>>shit...just sat there and told them to lower the price when the house didn't 
>>move.  His mom lost out on $16K in parasite fees for nothing.  It made me 
>>crazy at the time....and it wasn't even my house.  Even for elderly, 
>>disabled people on a very fixed income, those fucking parasites won't lower 
>>their commissions....not even for supposed 'friends'.  Real Eastate 
>>parasites don't know the meaning of the word friend. Or the word giving or 
>>compassion.   All they care about is money money money.   As soon as I find 
>>out someone is an agent...I really just don't even want to communicate with 
>>them at all.  They are worse than loan sharks, used car salesmen, and 
>>lawyers.
>
>Further to your comments about the f**ing parasites, even though it is
>illegal to have price-fixing in real estate, the SOB realtors refuse
>to work for less than MLS max ripoff rates!!
>
>Avoid real estate scammers, and use a competitor, such as COMFREE, for
>a few hundred dollars, and as the Dutch guy says:
>SAVE YOUR MONEY - $10,000 to $25,000!
>>Long live welist and comfree.
>>
>>Bernie
>>
>>"Jules Striker"  wrote in message 
>>news:6p4me25rnchl9kdiohbjfab2d36o39peoi@4ax.com...
>>> With all the extra free TV publicity, the sales through COMFREE should
>>> really increase, while MLS sales should plummet.
>>>
>>> Let the realtors starve, the damn parasites!
>>>
>>> On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:03:36 GMT, "Bernie" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Amen brother.
>>>
>>>>"Jules Striker"  wrote in message
>>>>news:c62he2d0brsbjdrecadl2a8ees9jpivh7k@4ax.com...
>>>>> Now that so many realtors are starving, because sensible home sellers
>>>>> have switched to using reasonably priced Comfree, they have filed a
>>>>> lawsuit against Comfree, and the Edmonton Journal gave it front page
>>>>> headline prominence.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is giving Comfree even more free publicity, which will result in
>>>>> even fewer sales by the parasitic realtors.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In the current real estate market, where homes are sold in a matter of
>>>>> hours or  days, only an idiot would use a parasitic real estate agent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Firms such as Comfree not only save the seller from $10,000 to $20,000
>>>>> cash, which stays in the seller's pocket, instead of the realtors.
>>>>>
>>>>> Comfree also provides a great set of instructions and guides on how to
>>>>> sell the house, as well as what to do regarding legal,etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the person actually owned the house, he should have enough smarts
>>>>> to read and understand the simple instructions from Comfree, thereby
>>>>> saving all the money, for himself.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have yet to find a real estate agent parasite worth the bullet to
>>>>> get rid of him. All the leeches want is a listing, and then you never
>>>>> see him again. He expects some hungrier parasite to sell the property,
>>>>> and he then splits the commission, for doing nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Use Comfree, and save all that money, for yourself!
>>>>> Did you see this article?
>>>>> http://www.businessedge.ca/article.cfm/newsID/10851.cfm
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4 Aug 2006 07:03:40 -0700, insomniac_cam@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Huh? As a seller, I'd show you the house, give you and information on
>>>>>>what needs to be fixed....what I recently fixed and that's it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't like making realestate (or any sale for that matter)
>>>>>>personal... if I'm selling its because the house probably needs more
>>>>>>work than I want to invest in it and I'm not going to have coffee with
>>>>>>you to discuss its 'thermal efficiencies'.... egads.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You either like what you see or you don't.... I absoluetly can't stand
>>>>>>people who hum and haw over the price if we both know its priced
>>>>>>fair... don't waste my time. Maybe thats why I've never tried
>>>>>>comfree..... and me and the wife both hate having someone follow us
>>>>>>around... as much as I appreciate the information from the seller, we
>>>>>>want to look at things and take time to notice any problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And if the house is a lemon and the seller knows it...unless he's a
>>>>>>retard he's hardly going to come out and tell you that... Caveat
>>>>>>Emptor. Remember he's trying to sell the house for the most he can get.
>>>>>>If you told me $10 to admission to come look at your house my wife
>>>>>>would kick you in the nuts and tell you youre crazy :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>tatarewicz wrote:
>>>>>>> As a buyer my preference would be to buy directly from the owner and
>>>>>>> find out everything he knows about the house, what needs to be done to
>>>>>>> improve thermal efficiency, etc., instead of trying to figure out what
>>>>>>> the problem is (which often takes twice as long as to fix it). If
>>>>>>> heavy rainfalls have caused some problem in the past, you might start
>>>>>>> on preventative measures as soon as you can rather than have these
>>>>>>> demonstrated to you in the future with associated damage. An owner has
>>>>>>> probably given some thought to various improvements, looked into 
>>>>>>> costs,
>>>>>>> merits etc. You can benefit from the research he's done; you won't get
>>>>>>> any of this information through real estate agents; they don't want 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> owner around when showing the house. If the house is a lemon the owner
>>>>>>> might have good reason to stay out of sight.  If I were selling the
>>>>>>> house I'd charge ten dollars an hour for showing it, explaining 
>>>>>>> things,
>>>>>>> etc., (over and above info in data sheet) to discourage non-serious
>>>>>>> tirekickers.  Tatarewicz
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> 
>>



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Rob Welldumb, while stealing time and internet from his employers, J.R.Paine,
still refuses to discuss the subject.

Are his employers aware of the theft of company assets by Welldumb, or should
we all phone them to let them know?
Or, email them at jrp@jrp.ca?


On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:50:53 GMT, ChrisO'Neill
 wrote:

>On 25 Mar 2006 00:36:51 -0000, arielv2  wrote:

>>Notice that Ted had listed at least 2 different Friedman
>>JEW CHILD MOLESTERS!!

>>Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former cantor of
>>the synagogue in Halifax, Canada?

>>He is the one caught as a major international distributor of KIDDIE PORN, from
>>his synagogue. THE CANADIAN COPS ALLOWED THIS FILTHY CRIMINAL to flee back to Boston,
>>where the FBI picked him up!!

>YET A WHITE CRIMINAL DOING THE SAME, IN EDMONTON, IS GIVEN 3 1/2 YEARS
>PRISON!!
>Why wasn't the ZYD given similar jail time?
________________________________________
>>On 31 Dec 2005 11:49:41 -0800, "Iamhere"  wrote:

>>>If your piece is fact, what is the major deal about one Jewish pervert
>>>vis a vis the thousands of priests who earned their prayer beads by
>>>buggering little boys? I say you are a goyische hypocrite.
>>>Iamhere
>>>======================================================================================
>>>Ted Dichtler wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:11:31 -0700, ariadne 
>>>> wrote:

>>>> Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former
>>>> cantor of the synagogue in Halifax, Canada?

>>>> He is the one caught as a major international DISTRIBUTOR of KIDDIE
>>>> PORN, from his synagogue. The Canadian cops allowed him to flee back
>>>> to Boston, where the FBI picked him up!!

>>>> Story as reported by newspaper follows:
>>>> kenmcvay  Feb 14 1999, 1:00 am
>>>> Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish, soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.ukrainian,
>>>> soc.culture.palestine
>>>> From: kenmc...@in.vino.veritas.lies
>>>> Date: 1999/02/14
>>>> Subject: Re: NIZKOR Supports ZHID Kiddie Porn Distributor from Synangogue
>>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 17:16:03 GMT, odess...@direct.ca wrote:
>>>> >On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 01:55:53 -0500, jacob bekker 
>>>> >wrote:

>>>> >>If that was "A Polish school teacher at a Halifax church..." than it was O.K.
>>>> >>J.B.
>>>> >No, it would not be OK, no matter who is the pervert.

>>>> >What is of concern, is whether the 3 NON-JEWS presently charged with
>>>> >similar crimes, will now also be allowed to leave Canada, without
>>>> >having to spend the normal 5 years in prison?

>>>> >Or, is this generosity only available to damn JEW KIDDIE PORN
>>>> >DISTRIBUTORS, especially if they are connected to a synagogue??

>>>> >>> > wrote:

>>>> ARREST SHOCKS SYNAGOGUE; TEACHER FLIES BACK TO U.S.
>>>> By EVA HOARE and AMY PUGSLEY FRASER Staff Reporters

>>>> A Hebrew school teacher and cantor at a Halifax synagogue, who downloaded
>>>> hundreds of pornographic photographs of children from the Internet, was
>>>> fined $2,200 in court Tuesday.

>>>> The fine was paid and Suart David Friedman, a
>>>> well-liked and respected member of the Beth Israel Synagogue, promptly left
>>>> the country for his native United States.

>>>> It's the first charge of its kind in Nova Scotia and justice officials
>>>> hinted that Mr. Friedman's activities - downloading a personal fantasy
>>>> collection of boys performing sexual and sadomasochistic acts - could be
>>>> connected to an international child pornography ring.

>>>> Mr. Friedman, 42, of South Park Street, Halifax, pleaded guilty to
>>>> possessing child pornography from the Internet. When Canada Customs and
>>>> police officers arrested him during a raid on his apartment Monday, the
>>>> cantor was surfing the Net. Although his private cache contained photographs
>>>> and videos - as well as gay and bondage magazines - the bulk of his
>>>> collection was 223 computer-generated photos of child pornography stored on
>>>> diskettes, on two computer hard drives, and on computer printouts.

>>>> ``It's extremely disgusting,'' said Const. Gary Martin of the Halifax
>>>> Regional Police Service, whose officers also conducted a search of Chebucto
>>>> Freenet offices, Mr. Friedman's Internet provider. ``Ninety per cent of this
>>>> material was obtained either directly or indirectly through the Internet.
>>>> Some ... was directly downloaded from the Internet and some ... was obtained
>>>> from different groups that are within the Internet,'' Const. Martin said.
>>>> ``The pictures are very explicit. It covers just about every avenue of
>>>> pornography that's out there.''

>>>> Canada Customs' intelligence division started working the case last
>>>> September and then brought in regional police, said Ed Osborne, customs'
>>>> regional intelligence officer.

>>>> Now officers - who'll spend hundreds of hours poring over the materials -
>>>> want to know if any Nova Scotian children were depicted in the ``gruesome''
>>>> photos and material seized. But they do not expect that will be the case.

>>>> Parents of children who attended the Hebrew school, shocked by the arrest,
>>>> planned to meet Tuesday night. ``As aware as people are that these things
>>>> can and do happen, it's still a shock,'' said Cathy Fox, president of the
>>>> Beth Israel Synagogue. Her three children - two sons and a daughter - were
>>>> taught by Mr. Friedman at the synagogue's Hebrew school. ``It's a very
>>>> difficult time.''

>>>> The cantor - who leads the congregation in song - taught her 13- year-old
>>>> son songs and chants that were part of his bar mitzvah ceremony last
>>>> October, Mrs. Fox said.

>>>> Some members will feel betrayed as a result of the charges. ``I think the
>>>> elderly members of our congregation will be very hurt by this.'' Some are
>>>> appalled while others expressed sympathy. ``I'm very saddened,'' said Robert
>>>> Wolman, president of the synagogue's board of governors.

>>>> Mr. Wolman said he and other board members heard about the case Monday night
>>>> and Mr. Friedman was immediately dismissed.

>>>> Wearing an olive-colored trenchcoat and a black yarmulke (skull cap) over
>>>> his greying hair, a pale and visibly nervous Mr. Friedman was ushered into
>>>> provincial court by two sheriff's deputies. Refusing even to look up at the
>>>> judge, he stared resolutely at the floor while wringing his hands.

>>>> ``This is the first (such) charge through our office,'' Crown attorney Frank
>>>> Hoskins told Judge Hughes Randall. ``But it sends a message out to the
>>>> public that if you're in possession of these images from your Internet and
>>>> they're child pornography, you can be charged with a criminal offence and
>>>> get a criminal record and a substantial fine,'' Mr. Hoskins said later.

>>>> Article Segment 2 of 2
>>>> (Ge
>>>> (Get All

>>>> Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada
>>>> and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and
>>>> electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said.

>>>> Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and
>>>> that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search
>>>> conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records.

>>>> Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated
>>>> with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His
>>>> intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown.

>>>> The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will
>>>> help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins=
>>>> said.

>>>> Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet
>>>> specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at
>>>> this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law
>>>> enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.''

>>>> Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution
>>>> of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies
>>>> are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined
>>>> comment.

>>>> Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at
>>>> $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine
>>>> ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also
>>>> confiscated.

>>>> After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston
>>>> to be with his family.

>>>> Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a
>>>> maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they
>>>> did say there was a plea bargain.

>>>> Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived
>>>> in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last
>>>> posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead
>>>> prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no
>>>> prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said.

>>>> ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox,
>>>> who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through
>>>> the media.
>>>> ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking
>>>> about how we will handle this.''

>>>> Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as
>>>> possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors.

>>>> Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or
>>>> partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related
>>>> material.

>>>> With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey
>>>> The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997.

>>>> Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to:
>>>> http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org


>>>> >On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:54:44 +0100, "mkarwan"  wrote:
>>>> >>http://judicial-inc.biz/freidman_pedophiles_from_hell.htm

>>>> >One Of Jewry's Most Explosive Incidences

>>>> >Every now and then, there is a crime so ghastly, that even the Jewish media
>>>> >control can't prevent the world from knowing. The crimes of the Friedmans were
>>>> >so atrocious, that no string pulling was going to stop this investigation.

>>>> >They were running a day care in the morning, and teaching computers to 8, 9,
>>>> >and 10 yr olds in the afternoon.

>>>> >They were found to have molested  hundreds of children, and taken extensive
>>>> >video and photographic files on their molestations.

>>>> It seems that much of the pornography and especially KIDDIE PORN
>>>> rackets worldwide are run by the JEWS!

>>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>>then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>>is a revolutionary act."
>>(George Orwell)

>>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

>>"All truth passes through three stages.
>>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>>(Arthur Schopenhauer)

>>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>>and impossible to ignore."
>>--John Bryant



>>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>>office: VISIT at:
>>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>>or call: 1-250-616-9431

>>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>>should give an indication as to the why.

>>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>>even if he or she were not naked"?
>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>>work:(780)492-0473

>>And also: George Firestone: "George" ,
>>and davejoll@ihug.co.nz, and Ariadne.mac@gmail.com.

>>Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>>JEW-WATCH:
>>http://www.jewwatch.com

>>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>>Or, other useful websites include:
>>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>>IHR - www.ihr.org
>>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

>>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.





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On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 10:27:15 -0500, Michel Boucher 
wrote:
>SueShiksaCohen  wrote in
>news:225ef2dk78gmlbohs628vjcj52sfub6gk4@4ax.com: 

>> Canada IS, and has been for years, a sex tourism destination for
>> fags, and other child molesters.

>> Read the book, "AND THE BAND PLAYED ON" to reveal the active
>> involvement of the Canadian government in the worldwide spread of
>> AIDS to other fags outside Canada, as well as within the country.

>> Canada welcomes as so-called refugees, those scum claiming to have
>> AIDS, or even just claiming to be a fag from a country where such
>> vermin are treated as the diseased perverts they are.

>If spreading these base and groundless canulars is the only way to keep 
>the mentally challenged right-wing gormless buffoons like yourself out, 
>I'm all for it.

Why do you think that the 150 AIDS-spreaders from other countries, mainly in
thrid world parts of the world,  who attended the fag-fest in Toronto, are now
claiming to be so-called "refugees"?

This despite the fact that their hoem countries obviously ALLOWED these
diseased to feely go to Canada, and the stupid Canadian government ALLOWED
them in!!


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Rob Welldumb, while stealing time and internet from his employers, J.R.Paine,
still refuses to discuss the subject.

Are his employers aware of the theft of company assets by Welldumb, 
or should we all phone them to let them know?
Or, email them at jrp@jrp.ca?



On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 13:28:28 GMT, "Robert Weldon"
 wrote:
>"MattMandel"  wrote in message 
>news:i6kef2lf5dtvborcpbmpuhkoefi4pkom58@4ax.com...
>> Rob Welldumb, while stealing time and internet from his employers,
>> J.R.Paine, still refuses to discuss the subject.
>>
>> Are his employers aware of the theft of company assets by Welldumb, or
>> should we all phone them to let them know?
>> Or, email them at jrp@jrp.ca?
>>
>
>Look at the time stamp, you stupid racist asshole.
>
>>
>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:50:53 GMT, ChrisO'Neill
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>On 25 Mar 2006 00:36:51 -0000, arielv2  wrote:
>>
>>>>Notice that Ted had listed at least 2 different Friedman
>>>>JEW CHILD MOLESTERS!!
>>
>>>>Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former cantor 
>>>>of
>>>>the synagogue in Halifax, Canada?
>>
>>>>He is the one caught as a major international distributor of KIDDIE PORN, 
>>>>from
>>>>his synagogue. THE CANADIAN COPS ALLOWED THIS FILTHY CRIMINAL to flee 
>>>>back to Boston,
>>>>where the FBI picked him up!!
>>
>>>YET A WHITE CRIMINAL DOING THE SAME, IN EDMONTON, IS GIVEN 3 1/2 YEARS
>>>PRISON!!
>>>Why wasn't the ZYD given similar jail time?
>> ________________________________________
>>>>On 31 Dec 2005 11:49:41 -0800, "Iamhere"  wrote:
>>
>>>>>If your piece is fact, what is the major deal about one Jewish pervert
>>>>>vis a vis the thousands of priests who earned their prayer beads by
>>>>>buggering little boys? I say you are a goyische hypocrite.
>>>>>Iamhere
>>>>>======================================================================================
>>>>>Ted Dichtler wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:11:31 -0700, ariadne 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former
>>>>>> cantor of the synagogue in Halifax, Canada?
>>
>>>>>> He is the one caught as a major international DISTRIBUTOR of KIDDIE
>>>>>> PORN, from his synagogue. The Canadian cops allowed him to flee back
>>>>>> to Boston, where the FBI picked him up!!
>>
>>>>>> Story as reported by newspaper follows:
>>>>>> kenmcvay  Feb 14 1999, 1:00 am
>>>>>> Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish, soc.culture.russian, 
>>>>>> soc.culture.ukrainian,
>>>>>> soc.culture.palestine
>>>>>> From: kenmc...@in.vino.veritas.lies
>>>>>> Date: 1999/02/14
>>>>>> Subject: Re: NIZKOR Supports ZHID Kiddie Porn Distributor from 
>>>>>> Synangogue
>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 17:16:03 GMT, odess...@direct.ca wrote:
>>>>>> >On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 01:55:53 -0500, jacob bekker 
>>>>>> >wrote:
>>
>>>>>> >>If that was "A Polish school teacher at a Halifax church..." than it 
>>>>>> >>was O.K.
>>>>>> >>J.B.
>>>>>> >No, it would not be OK, no matter who is the pervert.
>>
>>>>>> >What is of concern, is whether the 3 NON-JEWS presently charged with
>>>>>> >similar crimes, will now also be allowed to leave Canada, without
>>>>>> >having to spend the normal 5 years in prison?
>>
>>>>>> >Or, is this generosity only available to damn JEW KIDDIE PORN
>>>>>> >DISTRIBUTORS, especially if they are connected to a synagogue??
>>
>>>>>> >>> > wrote:
>>
>>>>>> ARREST SHOCKS SYNAGOGUE; TEACHER FLIES BACK TO U.S.
>>>>>> By EVA HOARE and AMY PUGSLEY FRASER Staff Reporters
>>
>>>>>> A Hebrew school teacher and cantor at a Halifax synagogue, who 
>>>>>> downloaded
>>>>>> hundreds of pornographic photographs of children from the Internet, 
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> fined $2,200 in court Tuesday.
>>
>>>>>> The fine was paid and Suart David Friedman, a
>>>>>> well-liked and respected member of the Beth Israel Synagogue, promptly 
>>>>>> left
>>>>>> the country for his native United States.
>>
>>>>>> It's the first charge of its kind in Nova Scotia and justice officials
>>>>>> hinted that Mr. Friedman's activities - downloading a personal fantasy
>>>>>> collection of boys performing sexual and sadomasochistic acts - could 
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> connected to an international child pornography ring.
>>
>>>>>> Mr. Friedman, 42, of South Park Street, Halifax, pleaded guilty to
>>>>>> possessing child pornography from the Internet. When Canada Customs 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> police officers arrested him during a raid on his apartment Monday, 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> cantor was surfing the Net. Although his private cache contained 
>>>>>> photographs
>>>>>> and videos - as well as gay and bondage magazines - the bulk of his
>>>>>> collection was 223 computer-generated photos of child pornography 
>>>>>> stored on
>>>>>> diskettes, on two computer hard drives, and on computer printouts.
>>
>>>>>> ``It's extremely disgusting,'' said Const. Gary Martin of the Halifax
>>>>>> Regional Police Service, whose officers also conducted a search of 
>>>>>> Chebucto
>>>>>> Freenet offices, Mr. Friedman's Internet provider. ``Ninety per cent 
>>>>>> of this
>>>>>> material was obtained either directly or indirectly through the 
>>>>>> Internet.
>>>>>> Some ... was directly downloaded from the Internet and some ... was 
>>>>>> obtained
>>>>>> from different groups that are within the Internet,'' Const. Martin 
>>>>>> said.
>>>>>> ``The pictures are very explicit. It covers just about every avenue of
>>>>>> pornography that's out there.''
>>
>>>>>> Canada Customs' intelligence division started working the case last
>>>>>> September and then brought in regional police, said Ed Osborne, 
>>>>>> customs'
>>>>>> regional intelligence officer.
>>
>>>>>> Now officers - who'll spend hundreds of hours poring over the 
>>>>>> materials -
>>>>>> want to know if any Nova Scotian children were depicted in the 
>>>>>> ``gruesome''
>>>>>> photos and material seized. But they do not expect that will be the 
>>>>>> case.
>>
>>>>>> Parents of children who attended the Hebrew school, shocked by the 
>>>>>> arrest,
>>>>>> planned to meet Tuesday night. ``As aware as people are that these 
>>>>>> things
>>>>>> can and do happen, it's still a shock,'' said Cathy Fox, president of 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Beth Israel Synagogue. Her three children - two sons and a daughter - 
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> taught by Mr. Friedman at the synagogue's Hebrew school. ``It's a very
>>>>>> difficult time.''
>>
>>>>>> The cantor - who leads the congregation in song - taught her 13- 
>>>>>> year-old
>>>>>> son songs and chants that were part of his bar mitzvah ceremony last
>>>>>> October, Mrs. Fox said.
>>
>>>>>> Some members will feel betrayed as a result of the charges. ``I think 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> elderly members of our congregation will be very hurt by this.'' Some 
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> appalled while others expressed sympathy. ``I'm very saddened,'' said 
>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>> Wolman, president of the synagogue's board of governors.
>>
>>>>>> Mr. Wolman said he and other board members heard about the case Monday 
>>>>>> night
>>>>>> and Mr. Friedman was immediately dismissed.
>>
>>>>>> Wearing an olive-colored trenchcoat and a black yarmulke (skull cap) 
>>>>>> over
>>>>>> his greying hair, a pale and visibly nervous Mr. Friedman was ushered 
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> provincial court by two sheriff's deputies. Refusing even to look up 
>>>>>> at the
>>>>>> judge, he stared resolutely at the floor while wringing his hands.
>>
>>>>>> ``This is the first (such) charge through our office,'' Crown attorney 
>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>> Hoskins told Judge Hughes Randall. ``But it sends a message out to the
>>>>>> public that if you're in possession of these images from your Internet 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> they're child pornography, you can be charged with a criminal offence 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> get a criminal record and a substantial fine,'' Mr. Hoskins said 
>>>>>> later.
>>
>>>>>> Article Segment 2 of 2
>>>>>> >>>>> HREF="http://xp5.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3c199701162146.NAA08...@mailmasher.com%3e%231/2&server=db96q5&CONTEXT=874940586.1932133778&hitnum=­192">(Ge
>>>>>> >>>>> HREF="http://xp5.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3c199701162146.NAA08...@mailmasher.com%3e&server=db96q5&CONTEXT=874940586.1932133778&hitnum=192">(Get 
>>>>>> All
>>
>>>>>> Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in 
>>>>>> Canada
>>>>>> and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and
>>>>>> electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said.
>>
>>>>>> Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second 
>>>>>> search
>>>>>> conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records.
>>
>>>>>> Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who 
>>>>>> co-operated
>>>>>> with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. 
>>>>>> ``His
>>>>>> intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown.
>>
>>>>>> The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that 
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. 
>>>>>> Hoskins=
>>>>>> said.
>>
>>>>>> Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet
>>>>>> specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every 
>>>>>> angle at
>>>>>> this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does 
>>>>>> involve law
>>>>>> enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.''
>>
>>>>>> Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged 
>>>>>> distribution
>>>>>> of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American 
>>>>>> agencies
>>>>>> are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, 
>>>>>> declined
>>>>>> comment.
>>
>>>>>> Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at
>>>>>> $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine
>>>>>> ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also
>>>>>> confiscated.
>>
>>>>>> After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to 
>>>>>> Boston
>>>>>> to be with his family.
>>
>>>>>> Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence 
>>>>>> carries a
>>>>>> maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But 
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> did say there was a plea bargain.
>>
>>>>>> Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, 
>>>>>> arrived
>>>>>> in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. 
>>>>>> His last
>>>>>> posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to 
>>>>>> lead
>>>>>> prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, 
>>>>>> has no
>>>>>> prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said.
>>
>>>>>> ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said 
>>>>>> Mrs. Fox,
>>>>>> who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it 
>>>>>> through
>>>>>> the media.
>>>>>> ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still 
>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>> about how we will handle this.''
>>
>>>>>> Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as 
>>>>>> soon as
>>>>>> possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future 
>>>>>> cantors.
>>
>>>>>> Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or
>>>>>> partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the 
>>>>>> child-related
>>>>>> material.
>>
>>>>>> With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey
>>>>>> The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997.
>>
>>>>>> Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to:
>>>>>> http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org
>>
>>
>>>>>> >On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:54:44 +0100, "mkarwan" 
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >>http://judicial-inc.biz/freidman_pedophiles_from_hell.htm
>>
>>>>>> >One Of Jewry's Most Explosive Incidences
>>
>>>>>> >Every now and then, there is a crime so ghastly, that even the Jewish 
>>>>>> >media
>>>>>> >control can't prevent the world from knowing. The crimes of the 
>>>>>> >Friedmans were
>>>>>> >so atrocious, that no string pulling was going to stop this 
>>>>>> >investigation.
>>
>>>>>> >They were running a day care in the morning, and teaching computers 
>>>>>> >to 8, 9,
>>>>>> >and 10 yr olds in the afternoon.
>>
>>>>>> >They were found to have molested  hundreds of children, and taken 
>>>>>> >extensive
>>>>>> >video and photographic files on their molestations.
>>
>>>>>> It seems that much of the pornography and especially KIDDIE PORN
>>>>>> rackets worldwide are run by the JEWS!
>>
>>>>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>>>>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>>
>>>>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>>
>>>>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>>>>is a revolutionary act."
>>>>(George Orwell)
>>
>>>>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>>
>>>>"All truth passes through three stages.
>>>>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>>>>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>>>>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>>
>>>>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>>>>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>>>>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>>>>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>>>>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>>
>>>>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>>>>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>>>>and impossible to ignore."
>>>>--John Bryant
>>
>>
>>
>>>>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>>>>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>>>>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>>>>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>>
>>>>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>>>>office: VISIT at:
>>>>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>>>>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>>>>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>>
>>>>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>>>>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>>>>should give an indication as to the why.
>>
>>>>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>>>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>>>>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>>>>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>>>>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>>>>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>>>>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>>>>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>>
>>>>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>>>>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>>>>even if he or she were not naked"?
>>>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>
>>>>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>>>>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>>>>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>>>>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>>>>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>>>>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>>
>>>>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>>>>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>>>>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late 
>>>>nights.
>>
>>>>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>>>>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>>>>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>>>>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>>>>work:(780)492-0473
>>
>>>>And also: George Firestone: "George" ,
>>>>and davejoll@ihug.co.nz, and Ariadne.mac@gmail.com.
>>
>>>>Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>>>>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>>
>>>>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>>>>JEW-WATCH:
>>>>http://www.jewwatch.com
>>
>>>>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>>>>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>>>>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>>
>>>>Or, other useful websites include:
>>>>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>>>>IHR - www.ihr.org
>>>>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>>>>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>>>>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>>>>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>>>>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>>>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>>>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>>
>>>>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>>>>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>>
>>>>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>>>>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>>
>>>>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>>>>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>>>>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>>>>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>>
>>>>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>>>>for many years around the world.
>>
>>>>Reply-To: "George" ,
>>>>or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
>>>>Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.
>>
>> 
>



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Arash, the word is hatemonger, not hatemongerer.
Or, did you mean hatemongrel, being a dog?

>On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 07:23:06 +1000, "Mike"  wrote:
>>"Firnando"  wrote in message 
>>news:1157229838.487540.142230@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>>> Arash wrote:
>>>> This individual using the fake name of "Gary Rumain" (IP: 
>>>> 210.211.117.172), on a daily basis insults Muslims (He is Jewish). He 
>>>> also uses the name "I Hate muzzies", "All muzzies are dirty, filthy, 
>>>> stinking pigs".

>Subject: GARY RUMAIN'S ADDRESS & PHONE NUMBER - Call/Visit Him

>On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 08:10:16 GMT, 
>flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:
>>On  3-Dec-2005, "Ted"  wrote:
>>> The Re'evd wrote:
>>> > Suzy "convert" Cohen must have you killfiled, cunt.
>>> > She *insists* that people are only posting "Alex's" business address!

>>> OK, whatever.

>>Actually, this is just another lie of the self-proclaimed cunt who
>>calls himself "Rev" etc.
>>I only said no one did this *when* no one *had* done this.
>>He has since pretended that I said no one had done this *ever*.
>>It was HIS pretending that he had found MY home address
>>that nmade everyone post Seredin's - but I wish they had 
>>posted the phony rev's - all we have so far
>>is Gordon Radavich

>AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE ON YOU SUSAN E COHEN OF SILVER SPRING, MD
>AS HAS BEEN POSTED BY ANOTHER PARTY

>GARY A RUMAIN      Born  1964
>8112 GROVE ST
>SILVER SPRING, MD   (301) 565-9746

>SUSAN E COHEN      Born  Nov 1962
>8112 GROVE ST
>SILVER SPRING, MD  (301) 565-9746

>zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain)

>You look very stupid in your denial of the facts Susan. You have been
>successfully outed so live with it.

>On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 08:02:03 GMT, <%bTjf.9769$AB2.6571@trnddc08>
>flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:

>>And you wonder why you liars get called stupid.

>I saw no lie. Where was the lie? For the fun or it I checked it out 
>and it is all true.

>>http://www.zabasearch.com/

>Using the above search I found the following also.

>>GARY A RUMAIN      Born  1964
>>8112 GROVE ST
>>SILVER SPRING, MD   (301) 565-9746
>
>>SUSAN E COHEN      Born  Nov 1962
>>8112 GROVE ST
>>SILVER SPRING, MD  (301) 565-9746
>
>http://www.infospace.com/home/white-pages/reverse-phone
>A reverse trace of the above telephone number shows:
>
>Gary Rumain
>8112 Grove St
>Silver Spring, MD 20910-4758
>Add to Outlook 301-565-9746
>http://kevdb.infospace.com/home/white-pages/kevdb?showrec=46587777:res-us&OTMPL=/white-pages/details.htm&QN=Rumain&QF=Gary&QC=Silver%20Spring&QS=MD&wqp=1&qsubcat=singlematch
>The above long link as a TinyURL:
>http://tinyurl.com/a74xw
>
>They even show a map of how to get to your house. 
>Care to remain in denial Susan E Cohen?
>
>You made the post below did you not? 
>You admitted Gary Rumain is your husband did you not?
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.scottish/msg/5a65b7eefb1e7400
>(Archived locally as: GaryAndSusan_1)
>
>>zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain)
>>Re: Bruneian Royal Harem: "Harem Scare 'Em?" Dateline NBC 9/23/97
>>1997/10/05
>><617cpg$p9a$14@news.smart.net>
>
>>In alt.talk.royalty Yet Another Steve  wrote:
>>: In article <60snlk$hlc$9@news.smart.net>, zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain) wrote:
>
>>: Okay, you've managed to confuse me now, too.  You post under the name
>>: "Gary Rumain" and sign your postings "Susan Cohen."  Is this an instance
>>: of someone "hiding his/her identity" as well?
>
>>No. If I wanted to hide my identity, would I sign each & every post with
>>my name? We haven't been able to change the post-name so it includes mine
>>as well as my husband's. However, I was under the impression that this was
>>a common enough occurence on Usenet.
>
>>And, the "anonymity" to which I referred was the fact that, while mine is
>>genuine, the original poster's was a false e-mail address. You can reach
>>me at zenda@smart.net any time you feel like tyoing. There was no way to
>>reach the original poster. I find that very suspicious, if only because
>>it is a perennial practise of the worst trolls.
>
>>Susan Cohen
>
>
>SUSAN STILL TRYING TO GET THE ADDRESS OF HER OPPONENT
>
>>All the search engines the bigots use (which I never knew of
>>until THEY posted about them - such idiots! -) are centered
>>in the US.
>
>>Susan
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David
>Michael's detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid
>molseter, and is known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies
>must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases,
>just  to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially
>late nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.
>
>Reply-To: "George"
>,
>or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
>Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the
>like.
>
>~~
>



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Alan Baggett, any news that you have heard on the criminal charges against the
crooked Edmonton cops?


On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 03:00:58 GMT, Sew  wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:15:28 -0000, kmcvay@shell.vex.net (Kenneth
>McVay OBC) wrote:
>
>>In article ,
>>Sew   wrote:
>>>On 18 Dec 2005 19:18:02 -0000, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header
>>>(CopsToJail) wrote:
>>>
>>>>It is time to send these crooked cops to prison, just to show that they get
>>>>no preferential treatment when it come to defrauding the tax department.
>>>>They should also be charged under the Criminal Code, with criminal conspiracy!!
>>>
>>>Wow! This reminds me of all those gangsters that made all that money
>>>but they could not beat the IRS...go get emmmm....to bad they let the
>>>bronfmans get away with all the millions and millions they owed in
>>>taxes in canada. Of course they to could have known Jean Cretian. 
>>
>>The Bronfmans owed "millions and millions in taxes" here? Will you document that, please?
>
>ooops, there are lots and lots of web pages carrying this info...just
>one more....
>
>
>
>TAXPAYER CHALLENGES GOV'T GIFT OF $700 MILLION TO WEALTHY BRONFMAN
>FAMILY 
>
>
>
>One of Canada's richest families is the focus of a Federal Court
>battle this week as a private citizen challenges hundreds of millions
>in favourable tax treatment given to the Bronfman family. 
>
>Revenue Canada is in the Federal Court of Appeal defending against
>George Harris, a Winnipeg office worker and social activist, who is
>contesting a loophole that allowed $2-billion in Bronfman family
>assets to escape the country tax free, in 1991. 
>
>"This case is about public confidence in the Canadian income tax
>system," Mr. Harris, a program officer for Canadian University
>Services Overseas (CUSO), asserts in his class-action lawsuit. 
>
>"Without general public acceptance of the integrity and fairness of
>our income tax regime, no amount of assessment and enforcement action
>by government will be able to protect the tax base and ensure the
>collection of essential public revenues." 
>
>The court challenge, being heard March 9th, comes amid persistent
>rumours that Edgar Bronfman Jr. is looking to sell Seagram Co. Ltd.,
>the Montreal-based liquor and entertainment giant. 
>
>Mr. Harris' three-year-old legal fight was prompted by a controversial
>tax ruling by Revenue Canada in 1991 that allowed the Bronfmans to
>move more than $2-billion worth of Seagram Co. stock, held in two
>family trusts, to the United States without paying capital gains tax.
>The decision allowed the family to avoid as much as $700-million in
>taxes. 
>
>Revenue Canada is appealing a January 1999 ruling by Federal Court
>Judge Francis Muldoon, who allowed the lawsuit to go ahead in the
>public interest, concluding that allowing the Bronfman billions to
>escape untaxed smacks of "favouritism" and "grave maladministration." 
>
>Government lawyers will challenge Judge Muldoon's decision by arguing
>Canada's tax system is based on "strict confidentiality" and Mr.
>Harris has no direct interest in the case. 
>
>"The law in any event does not permit one taxpayer or citizen to
>challenge the income tax treatment of the transactions or affairs of
>another taxpayer," says Revenue Canada's written court submission. "To
>allow such a challenge is . . . inconsistent with our system of tax
>administration." 
>
>Revenue Canada lawyers add the public interest is already being
>addressed in a "normal and lawful manner," since legislation is being
>considered. 
>
>After a severe rebuke from Denis Desautels, the Auditor-General, the
>government announced in October 1996 it would introduce new rules to
>ensure taxes are paid on assets moving out of the country that have
>increased in value during their time in Canada. 
>
>But more than three years later, legislation has not been passed. 
>
>The much-debated departure tax has encountered stiff opposition in
>Liberal strongholds like Vancouver and Toronto, where immigrant
>communities balk at the prospect of investors and entrepreneurs coming
>into Canada being forced to list their assets and pay capital gains on
>profits accrued during their time in the country. 
>
>The business community also has been opposed, saying it would create
>an unwanted barrier for investors in and operators of private
>companies. 
>
>In his earlier ruling, Judge Muldoon admonished government officials
>for treating Mr. Harris like a "nobody" by arguing that he had no
>right to challenge Revenue Canada's practice. 
>
>"Mr. Harris brings this action on behalf of his fellow taxpayers,
>except the favoured few, for the few will never be heard of to
>complain of the official favouritism," Judge Muldoon wrote. 
>
>"The fair-minded, objective observer must surely smell at least the
>grave maladministration here ... One can only imagine the benefit to
>the country and to national programs such sums could have
>contributed." 
>
>Mr. Harris, a member of a social advocacy group called CHOICES, argues
>he has as much right to challenge tax treatment as he does other
>government expenditures. 
>
>"The plaintiff submits matters of tax assessment and collection raise
>the very same public interest concern as matters of direct financial
>expenditure. There is no substantive difference between a dollar of
>tax revenue forgone and a dollar of public money expended by
>government." 
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On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:03:55 -0700, "DetectorTHX11:59:01"  wrote:
>Leftists = traitors  wrote in message
>news:1154710281.114348.317630@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> $37.00 for a book that costs $24.99 U.S.  Our dollars are within 13% of
>> each other.
>> Book prices haven't changed since our dollar was worth $0.63 U.S.  Of
>> course, we KNOW who owns Chapters-Indigo and they dictate to the publishers.
>> Their excuse that "you can't tool up that fast" as to why they can't
>> re-price books falls on deaf ears.  It does NOT take YEARS to rectify prices. F--- The Reitmans and
>> their cabal.

>They are part of Israhells fifth column in Canada, and are intertwined with
>the globalist Bilderberg gangsters.  They should be watched in case they are
>involved in any Mossad activities like stealing Canadian passports and
>spying.  They could be sending and recieving more than books.

And the ZYDS wonder why Canadians resent being JEWED, as per dictionary
definition!!



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The OP seems to be JamesD, a disgusting pervert, presently under police
investigation. Just ask Det. Palamattan of EPS.

It seems that his picture, or one identical, was featured just over a week
ago, in connection with an assault on a young woman in north Edmonton.

With ISPs cancelling him all around the world, he is now forced to use
anonymous remailers.


On 14 Aug 2006 06:30:31 -0700, "aaronhirshberg@yahoo.com"
 wrote:
>Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:
>> I'm an AIDS infested Queer who preys on Edmonton's children
>>
>> Somebody come to my home and give me a good beating before I rape
>> another little boy!!  End my torment NOW!!!
>>
>> William Grosvenor - 780 475-9668 9208 - 137 Avenue, Northtown Mall
>> area, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
>
>I am pretty sure that this William Grosvenor fellow is going to be
>calling the Police to have you arrested, and then file an enormous law
>suit against you.  Too bad for you.
>
>If you are going to try to make this believeable, don't use a name like
>"William Grosvenor".  Pick one of the following names:
>
>George Walker Bush
>Michael Savage
>Jim Guckert
>Rush Limbaugh
>Karl Rove



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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:48:46 GMT, Chom Noamsky  wrote:
>John Galt wrote:
>> Roy wrote:
>>> JG: You are one cold fish.

>> The warmth was sucked from my bones, last tax season -- when the
>> liberal lefties took all my hard earned money as it is; so exscuse me
>> if I don' t support added taxation to rectify what amounts to other
>> peoples lifestyle choices.

>Your opinion epitomizes the folly of myopic conservatives - they fail to see
>long-term economic benefits of social welfare.  AIDS is here in our society
>and you can't unring a bell.  

>The course of action is:

>[1] spend a fortune treating the symptoms, as we are now

Waste of money.

>[2] finding a cure for the disease

Let those involved waste their own money.

>[3] stop all spending and hope the problem just goes away

If spending is stopped, perhaps all the diseased fags will just die, thereby
ending the problem.

>[4] the Galt solution - stand on the street corner giving morality lectures
>and passing judgment on the infected

>Which do you think is the most realistic solution?  

Isolating all the diseased fags on some arctic island, where they can either
live or die.

If necessary lease a gulag from Russia.



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The zionazi ZYDS do not like to be reminded of this!
The ZYDS even use their shabbas-goy McVay, to try and deflect
this TRUE information.

The Christkillers dislike being reminded about the ZYD COLLABORATEURS - such
as KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI AND WIESENTHAL!!

Evean fat Hermann Goering used jews in his home and in the Luftwaffe.

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 03:15:15 GMT, "amigo  cabal" 
wrote:

>Germans of Jewish Descent Who Served Hitler

>Possibly one of the most damning indictments of the allegations surrounding 
>the Holocaust and Nazi racial policy, come in an analysis of Germans of part 
>Jewish descent who were not only ardent Nazis but who faithfully served the 
>Nazi state at all levels in its military structure. For if the Nazi state 
>had, as is so often claimed, been hell bent on killing all traces of Jews, 
>it would never have allowed these individuals into positions which they did 
>hold - including army and air force generals.

>As discussed earlier, the Nazi racial laws made specific allowances for such 
>exceptions, and in fact actively sought to assimilate partial Jews into 
>German society, rather than have them re-congregate and form pure Jewish 
>gene pools once again. From the Nazi side, there was therefore no 
>contradiction between the assimilation of part Jews into German society, 
>although this policy is subject to considerable misunderstanding from 
>outside observers.

>As discussed in the book by American Military University professor Bryan 
>Mark Rigg in his book "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers, The Untold Story of Nazi 
>Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military" (University 
>Press of Kansas, Modern War Studies, May 2002) as many as 150,000 men of 
>part Jewish descent, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, 
>even generals and admirals, fought for Nazi Germany right to the bitter end.

>Almost all of these 150,000 men received special exemptions and declarations 
>of being "true Germans", many of these orders being signed by Adolf Hitler 
>himself, in a legal provision known as the Deutschblütigkeitserklärung (or 
>literally, the Declaration of German Blood).

>Above: photographs of Wehrmacht soldier and half-Jew Anton Mayer, typical of 
>those which accompanied an application for exemption under the Nazis' racial 
>laws.

>Above left: Quarter-Jew Admiral Bernhard Rogge wearing his Knight's Cross 
>(Ritterkreuz) with oak leaves. Above right: Adolf Hitler personally declared 
>Luftwaffe Field Marshall Erhard Milch (standing left) as  an Aryan, even 
>though Milch was half-Jewish. To Milch's right, General Wolfram von 
>Richthofen.

>Above right: Half-Jew Luftwaffe General Helmut Wilberg; above right: The 
>military service book of half-Jew Hermann Aub.

>Above left: World War One veteran and half-Jew, General Johannes Zukertort; 
>and above right: Half-Jew Commander Paul Ascher, Admiral Lütjens's first 
>staff officer on the battleship Bismarck.

>Above left: Half-Jew Colonel Walter H. Hollaender, decorated with the 
>Knight's Cross (Ritterkreuz) and German-Cross in Gold; and above right: 
>Half-Jew Wehrmacht soldier Werner Goldberg.

>"KNOWING THE NAZI STATE FOR WHAT IT WAS"

>The significance of these Germans of Jewish descent serving the Third Reich 
>has not been lost on the academic world: for example, the following quote 
>from historian John Keegan in his review of Bryan Mark Rigg's book:
>
>"The revelation that Germans of Jewish blood, knowing the Nazi regime for 
>what it was, served Hitler as uniformed members of his armed forces must 
>come as a profound shock. It will surprise even professional historians of 
>the Nazi years."  - John Keegan, author of The Face of Battle and The Second 
>World War,  (http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html)

>Keegan is of course, mistaken in the one sense, in that even a cursory study 
>of Nazi racial laws will have revealed that the Blood Protection Law of 1935 
>make specific allowances for such cases, and only the general hysteria and 
>ignorance of what the Nazis actually said and did has allowed people to be 
>"shocked" by the large number of part Jews serving the Reich.

>The phrase "knowing the Nazi regime for what it was" above by Keegan, is 
>however the real significant part: for indeed, if the Nazis had been mass 
>murdering, gassing and burning millions of Jews, it is extremely unlikely 
>that these 150,000 prominent Germans of part Jewish descent, would have 
>served the Reich at all, never mind having made specific application to be 
>granted full Aryan status - especially given that there were only 
>approximately 600,000 full blooded Jews in Nazi Germany.




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The useless cops STILL HAVE NOT caught the serial killer of 107 women!!

Is this because it is one of them?

As former cop Quinn qrote: There is a conspiracy of silence, when it comes to
cops' wrongdoing"!


On 21 Aug 2006 15:35:08 -0700, "NoMoreCrap"  wrote:
>Jules Striker and his sock puppets wrote:
>
>> Regrettably, all the news reports are correct and TRUE.
>
>However, YOU distort the truth to suit your needs.
>
>> the Edmonton Journal newspaper, as well as the TV stations hardly have a day pass, without
>> yet another expose of more police brutality!!
>
>Well, TODAY passed without one.
>
>Here's what the Journal reported on the cops today.
>
>edmontonjournal.com
>Published: Monday, August 21, 2006
>Edmonton Police made three arrests and discovered a cache of weapons
>after noticing a vehicle run a red light at the intersection of 104th
>Avenue and 101st Street Sunday morning.

>More on this at:  http://tinyurl.com/fno6f
>
>Time to tell the truth;
>NoMoreCrap



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Is that why since the Estey Commission enquiry into abuses by Extortion
Canada, most people think that CA stands for CROOKED ACCOUNTANTS?

Why isn't CRA going after those restaurants and bars, where the OWNERS are
pocketing all the tips paid by credit cards, and NOT DECLARING THE TIPS AS
INCOME?

Guess the CRA feel it is easier to collect from wage slaves, rather than going
after the big crooks?

On 18 Sep 2006 21:01:21 -0700, "Alan Baggett" 
wrote:

>http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=c3436a12-b8f8-426f-a9c0-7f95ca066b21&k=58561

>Hospitality workers blame accountants for advice on hiding tips

>By Dean Beeby

>OTTAWA (CP) - Waiters, waitresses and bartenders say their accountants
>often advise them not to declare some of their tips when filing
>income-tax returns, according to a new federal study.

>In a series of focus groups earlier this year, hospitality workers
>admitted to hiding a portion of their tip income - but blamed tax
>professionals for encouraging the illegal behaviour.

>"Those participants who indicated that they sought guidance from a tax
>professional suggested that accountants or other taxation professionals
>often advised them to underestimate the amount of tips they earned,
>referred to as 'doing the minimum'," says the report for Canada Revenue
>Agency.

>"This further reinforces the apathetic attitude that exists with
>respect to claiming tips and gratuities as income."

>The $35,000 report by Corporate Research Associates, delivered in May,
>examined the attitudes of 96 hospitality workers in four cities -
>Edmonton, Toronto, Peterborough and Halifax.
>
>All participants worked full-time in a restaurant or bar, and almost
>all used tax professionals to file their income taxes.
>
>The study is part of an effort by the agency to flush out more of the
>underground economy, estimated to be worth up to $15 billion each year.
>The hospitality industry is a target because of the high proportion of
>cash transactions with often-shoddy record-keeping.
>
>Most of the 96 workers acknowledged they rarely keep written records of
>their gratuities, and often collude with fellow workers about what
>percentage of their wages they should declare as tip income at tax
>time.
>
>"The percentage reported is often influenced by other employees within
>one establishment, as employees do 'agree' on what to report each year
>to avoid raising red flags with the agency," says the report.
>
>Most declared between seven and 15 per cent, with the most common at 10
>per cent. Tax laws, however, require that all tip income be recorded
>and declared.
>
>The report urges the Canada Revenue Agency to further investigate how
>tax preparers may be encouraging illegal behaviour.
>
>"A separate study among taxation professionals is needed to reach a
>conclusion regarding their role in this aspect of the underground
>economy," the authors recommend.
>
>Workers also indicated that if audits were more frequent or systematic
>in their industry, they might be more honest about tip income.
>
>"Bar and restaurant employees do not perceive a real risk of getting
>caught for improperly reporting tips, as very few of them know or have
>heard of someone getting audited," says the report.
>
>"Very few employees suggested that having a clear conscience, being
>honest, and having integrity are sufficient motivators to impact on
>their wrongful reporting behaviours."
>
>Many also resented being targeted by the agency, saying they're small
>fry compared with the construction industry's role in the underground
>economy.
>
>A spokeswoman for the Canada Revenue Agency said officials are still
>considering whether to investigate tax professionals.
>
>"The suggestion identified in the report will be reviewed and our
>strategy will be determined after a complete evaluation," Beatrice
>Fenelon said in an interview.
>
>She added that the agency has 1,250 employees working on compliance,
>and that the hospitality industry is not specially targeted.
>
>David Perry of the Canadian Tax Foundation said tax professionals are
>often former Canada Revenue Agency workers, or have been briefed by
>agency employees, and know the accepted rules of thumb within
>government about tip income.
>
>"You want them to pay a fair share of tax, and an amount of tax that
>will not trigger further enquiries, that is, an audit," he said from
>Toronto. "So you try and stay within the guidelines."
>
>But he also noted that with the rising number of electronic payments
>through Interac, there's less cash being used in the hospitality
>industry and fewer opportunities to hide revenues, including tip
>income. 
>
>© The Canadian Press 2006



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Glad to see that the finance and collections manager for Leduc was 
on his toes, and did the job for which he gets paid!!

Time to FIRE Lowry, after recovering the $450 Grand from his pay!!

Anyone stupid enough to hire this scammer, deserves to get swindled.


On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:34:46 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
 wrote:
>On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:04:02 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
> wrote:

>>The Journal for today, Wednesday 20 September 2006, reports that EPCOR
>>management failed to pay a bill in connection with their power plant, and
>>consequently had to pay a penalty of $450,000!!

>Will Lowry get FIRED for his negligence, or will he pass the buck on some
>junior staffer?

>>Will he be required to pay this penalty, out of his salary and bonuses, since
>>he is respondible?

>>Or, will he try to get the Utilities Board to raise rates to EPCOR customers
>>to make up for his negligence?



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On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:35:52 -0700, in ab.politics Frank Arthur
 wrote:

The Edmonton Journal, in a banner headline story of half a page, today 26
January 2007, exposes that fired police chief Rayner was for some unknown
reason paid HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, even though his contract had stipulated a
maximum of only $199,000!!

To confirm this info, the Journal had to force the disclosure under Freedom of
Information Act, since the Police Commission did not want the evidence made
public, as to how crooked they are!

In fact city lawyers had advised that if going to court, he would only get
probably $70,000!!

No one on the crooked Police Commission wants to explain why they OVERPAID THE
POLICE CHIEF THEY HAD FIRED, IN CONTRAVENTION OF THE CONTRACT!!

One must now wonder, did someone on the commission get a kickback?

Or, were they personally liable if it went to court, for improperly firing the
disgraced chief?

No matter what, these criminally incompetent crooks in the police commission
gave away HALF A MILLION DOLLARS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS, without just cause!1

Each one should be personally sued to recover this money, NOW!!

Sharx, Sewbeit,Grosvenor - care to comment.



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In a rare admission of candor, Mare Mandel admitted to media that the 
city and EDE have been completely incompetent in attracting new 
business to Deadmonton.

Mind you, Grosvenor and Sharx have been stating this for years!!

Why should taxpayers be giving the friends of the mare, $8 MILLION a year,
just to wine and dine each other, without any provable results?

To add insult to injury, the Chamber of Commerce gets NO CITY FUNDS, 
but does attract new businesses.

NOW IS THE TIME TO DISSOLVE EDE, AND SAVE THE TAXPAYERS MONEY!!
We do not need to continue to be JEWED!!

Calgary seems to be doing a great job of attracting new businesses, without
jewing the taxpayers.

Same as they did about their photo radar!! Now the revenues go to Calgary, not
some crooks in the states,who bribed local cops in Edmonton!

Perhaps Mare Mandel should hire Ipsos-reid, who themselves left Edmonton for
Calgary, to find out why Edmonton is so undesirable to businesses?

On 2 Feb 2006 11:16:12 -0800, "Loaf of Bread" 
wrote:
>Pat Humphrey wrote:
>> Another major business is leaving Edmonton, citing high costs of doing
>> business.
>>
>> After 17 years, Ipsos-Reid will be gone by the end of the month, joining the
>> exodus of larger firms that have decided to avoid doing business in the
>> anti-business city.
>>
>> Now, all the parasites in town will try to come up with all kinds of excuses,
>> other than the fact is, this city's administration are full of crooks!

The Edmonton Journal quoted the Ipsos executive, who stated the firm
had been in Edmonton 17 years, much longer even than the executive had
been with Ipsos.

Now Ipsos can join all the other businesses leaving Deadmonton, for
better cities.

>According to IPSOS own press release, the call centre has only been
>open five years, not seventeen as you claim.  You also neglect to
>mention one reason for the closure is difficulty finding enough workers
>in the highly competitive labour market.

>Edmonton, AB - Ipsos Reid formally announced today that it will close
>its Edmonton call centre effective February 28, 2006. The Edmonton
>centre has been in operation since October 2000 and employs
>approximately 200 people.

>"The decision to close the Edmonton call centre was a difficult one,
>but it has been increasingly difficult to staff the centre to full
>capacity in the highly competitive labour market of Edmonton," said
>Leslie Speirs, Senior Vice President, CATI Interviewing Services for
>Ipsos. The company noted that the call center lease expires in March
>2006 and with a major tenant slated to take over the space, the call
>centre would have been forced to move and rebuild which carries
>significant business costs associated with it. "These two factors,
>combined, caused us to make the business decision to close our
>operations" she said.

>Work will be shifted to other Ipsos Reid call centres in Winnipeg,
>Ottawa and Montreal. Ipsos will continue to maintain over 750 telephone
>interviewing stations in Canada.

>Ipsos Reid has notified the Alberta Department of Labour and will work
>with them to identify appropriate opportunities for Ipsos employees and
>to access available government support and services. All employees will
>be provided with four weeks of working notice during which we will
>support their efforts to find work. The company has also arranged
>workshops to assist employees in writing resumes and interviewing for
>new positions and are offering a resume- review service to ensure
>employees are well equipped as they begin their job searches.
>
>http://www.ipsos-na.com/news/pressrelease.cfm?id=2961


A few possible reasons would include:
-Edmonton being the crime capital of Canada
-too many crooked cops, with worldwide video of police brutality
-crooked city tax assessors giving special deals to friends
-mare and council subsidizing businesses, at cost of all taxpayers
-incompetent or crooked scholl boards, losing millions with no one charged 
-the fact that the city can not adequately remove snowfalls

Readers, and even business owners, are invited to add their reasons below, 
as to why business owners are avaoiding Deadmonton


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Now the Legion are complaining because an international group of PEACE
activists are sel;ling white poppies.

The Legion feels that they, and the red poppies, should be the only group
making money.

Why did the Legion not complain about the ZYD HOLOHOAX Day when the Liberals
had it, at taxpayer expense?


On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:31:31 GMT, ProBonoPublico
 wrote:

>It seems that the government forgot to schedule a national HOLOHOAX Day for
>the ZHIDS April 19 or 20 this year,with all the scandals involving the crooked
>Lieberals, !!
>
>
>On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:52:57 -0700, Felix Dzerzhinsky 
>wrote:
>
>Header asks a very relevant question, especially now that there are at least
>52 well-documented cases of ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS, 
>not forgetting the notorious KASTNER  CASE!!
>
>Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is exposed as a Nazi GESTAPO
>COLLABORATOR!!
>
>Why a special day, paid by taxpayers, just for the Christkiller ZHIDS?
>
>
>>On 1 Feb 2005 03:38:19 -0000, Hans Wapnigg  wrote:
>>>From: Nemo 
>>>Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.british,aus.politics
>>>Subject: Holocaust Memorial Day Should Include Victims Of  All Holocausts Of 20th Century--Not Just Jews
>>>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 05:42:23 MST (pd7tw1no)
>
>>>This day of commiseration should not be limited only to the victims of
>>>the Jewish Holocaust perpetrated by European socialists (Nazis and
>>>Commies) and their sympathizers during World War II.
>
>>>It should be in sympathy for the tens of millions of victims of
>>>Lenin and Stalin in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. For example,
>>>the massacre of the Kulaks in Ukraine and Russia. The massacre of Polish
>>>officers at Katyn by Stalin's Soviet troops which the Commies tried to
>>>blame this on their socialist cousins, Hitler's Nazis.
>
>>>The 1 million Armenians massacred by the Turks is also a holocaust that
>>>should be commemorated. Then there is the tens of millions of Chinese
>>>murdered by Mao in his "Great Leap Forward" and "Cultural Revolution".
>
>>>The genocides by Pol Pot in Cambodia and Mengistu in Ethiopia should
>>>also be remembered. And let us not forget the horrible genocide in
>>>Ruwanda in the the 1990s in which over 900,000 perished.
>
>>>The fact is that during the 20th century more than 100 million people
>>>were murdered by socialists (Commies, Nazis). The six million Jews
>>>killed by the Nazis and Communists during WW II are only a fraction
>>>(less than 10%) of the total number of victims of the bloodiest century
>>>in world history.
>
>>>Notice that disgusting dying AIDS-spreader pervert Ken McVay, refuses to
>>>discuss the SUBJECT of the article, because his JEW masters do not
>>>want all the sheeple in Canada to start to THINK!!
>
>>>None of the other groups of victims in Canada,or in Europe have received the 
>>>same treatment, just the cursed JEWS!!
>
>>>The Acadians of Canada did not get similar treatment from the Jew-controlled
>>>government.
>>>All the aboriginals murdered by the whites in Canada and USA, and Australia,
>>>get no such treatment.
>>>All the Ukrainians kept in concentration camps IN CANADA got no such
>>>recognition, let alone all the many millions killed by the
>>>JEW-controlled Soviets!!
>>>There are many groups of people in Canada, and Australia, New Zealand, and 
>>>Europe, who are fed up with the special treatment given to those they blame for having 
>>>CHRIST killed!!
>
>
>>>LisaMcVay@wowmail.com (LisaMcVay) wrote in message 
>>>news:<9679f676.0311291332.73304b41@posting.google.com>...
>>>> How can it be hateful, to complain legitimately about the preferential
>>>> treatment given one disgusting group of creatures?
>
>>>> For 2000 years people worldwide have had to suffer at the hands of
>>>> those who had Christ murdered, because He exposed their scandalous
>>>> conduct in the Jew temples.
>
>>>> Now, Canadians must continue paying for a special holiday, just to
>>>> commemmorate the HOLOHOAX!!
>
>>>> No consideration is given to the more than 100 MILLIONS KILLED BY ZHID
>>>> COMMUNISM!!
>
>
>>>Now that normal people have celebrated the real Remembrance Day,
>>>supposedly covering all victims of all wars, we can now wonder why
>>>should there be another costly day, just for the cursed ZHIDS!!
>
>>>Why should Canadians have to pay each year, and celebrate
>>>HOLOHOAX Day, just for the nuisance ZHIDS? Is it true that
>>>the filthy ZHIDS, like the BRONFMANs, control Canada?
>>>Why should Canadian businesses have to pay for another
>>>worthless statutory holiday, and pay staff for NOT WORKING,
>>>just to satisfy some ZHIDS?
>
>>>We already have Remembrance Day, supposedly to remember ALL
>>>who died in ALL WARS.
>
>>>We do not celebrate the HOLOCAUST of the Armenians by the Turks.
>>>We do not celebrate the NANKING massacre of the Chinese by Japan.
>>>We do not celebrate the genocide of German POWs in concentration
>>>camps by the Allies in 1945-6.
>
>>>Canada doesn't even celebrate the Ukrainian HOLOCAUST/FAMINE murders
>>>of the tens of millions in the 1930's.
>>>Canada does not celebrate the 100 millions killed by the ZHID Soviets before 
>>>and during WW2.
>>>Canada does not celebrate the tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians 
>>>murdered by the Israeli occupation forces.Have you forgotten Sabra and Shatilla?
>
>>>Canada doesn't celebrate the tens of thousands of natives it killed, so why the 
>>>ZHIDS?
>>>Australia does not celebrate all the abos killed since the British occupied 
>>>Australia.
>
>>>So why should we have a ZHID DAY?!!
>>>Is it true that the BRONFMAN ZHIDS - who cheated the Canadian Tax Department
>>>of unpaid $1,500 MILLIONS in taxes - do control the Canadian Government?
>>>The gutless politicians who approved this discrimination should be  exterminated!!
>
>>>Complain to your MPs, and let them know, you are fed up with ZHID control of 
>>>Canada, Australia,or wherever you live!!
>
>>>Why should sovereign countries in Europe have to kowtow to the disgusting 
>>>Christkiller ZHIDS,
>>>and have a special day, just for them, when they have no such special day for 
>>>those of their own people who were killed by, or because of the ZHIDS?
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.



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The zionazi ZYDS do not like to be reminded of this!
The ZYDS even use their shabbas-goy McVay, to try and deflect
this TRUE information.

The Christkillers dislike being reminded about the ZYD COLLABORATEURS - such
as KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI AND WIESENTHAL!!

Evean fat Hermann Goering used jews in his home and in the Luftwaffe.

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 03:15:15 GMT, "amigo  cabal" 
wrote:

>Germans of Jewish Descent Who Served Hitler

>Possibly one of the most damning indictments of the allegations surrounding 
>the Holocaust and Nazi racial policy, come in an analysis of Germans of part 
>Jewish descent who were not only ardent Nazis but who faithfully served the 
>Nazi state at all levels in its military structure. For if the Nazi state 
>had, as is so often claimed, been hell bent on killing all traces of Jews, 
>it would never have allowed these individuals into positions which they did 
>hold - including army and air force generals.

>As discussed earlier, the Nazi racial laws made specific allowances for such 
>exceptions, and in fact actively sought to assimilate partial Jews into 
>German society, rather than have them re-congregate and form pure Jewish 
>gene pools once again. From the Nazi side, there was therefore no 
>contradiction between the assimilation of part Jews into German society, 
>although this policy is subject to considerable misunderstanding from 
>outside observers.

>As discussed in the book by American Military University professor Bryan 
>Mark Rigg in his book "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers, The Untold Story of Nazi 
>Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military" (University 
>Press of Kansas, Modern War Studies, May 2002) as many as 150,000 men of 
>part Jewish descent, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, 
>even generals and admirals, fought for Nazi Germany right to the bitter end.

>Almost all of these 150,000 men received special exemptions and declarations 
>of being "true Germans", many of these orders being signed by Adolf Hitler 
>himself, in a legal provision known as the Deutschblütigkeitserklärung (or 
>literally, the Declaration of German Blood).

>Above: photographs of Wehrmacht soldier and half-Jew Anton Mayer, typical of 
>those which accompanied an application for exemption under the Nazis' racial 
>laws.

>Above left: Quarter-Jew Admiral Bernhard Rogge wearing his Knight's Cross 
>(Ritterkreuz) with oak leaves. Above right: Adolf Hitler personally declared 
>Luftwaffe Field Marshall Erhard Milch (standing left) as  an Aryan, even 
>though Milch was half-Jewish. To Milch's right, General Wolfram von 
>Richthofen.

>Above right: Half-Jew Luftwaffe General Helmut Wilberg; above right: The 
>military service book of half-Jew Hermann Aub.

>Above left: World War One veteran and half-Jew, General Johannes Zukertort; 
>and above right: Half-Jew Commander Paul Ascher, Admiral Lütjens's first 
>staff officer on the battleship Bismarck.

>Above left: Half-Jew Colonel Walter H. Hollaender, decorated with the 
>Knight's Cross (Ritterkreuz) and German-Cross in Gold; and above right: 
>Half-Jew Wehrmacht soldier Werner Goldberg.

>"KNOWING THE NAZI STATE FOR WHAT IT WAS"

>The significance of these Germans of Jewish descent serving the Third Reich 
>has not been lost on the academic world: for example, the following quote 
>from historian John Keegan in his review of Bryan Mark Rigg's book:
>
>"The revelation that Germans of Jewish blood, knowing the Nazi regime for 
>what it was, served Hitler as uniformed members of his armed forces must 
>come as a profound shock. It will surprise even professional historians of 
>the Nazi years."  - John Keegan, author of The Face of Battle and The Second 
>World War,  (http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html)

>Keegan is of course, mistaken in the one sense, in that even a cursory study 
>of Nazi racial laws will have revealed that the Blood Protection Law of 1935 
>make specific allowances for such cases, and only the general hysteria and 
>ignorance of what the Nazis actually said and did has allowed people to be 
>"shocked" by the large number of part Jews serving the Reich.

>The phrase "knowing the Nazi regime for what it was" above by Keegan, is 
>however the real significant part: for indeed, if the Nazis had been mass 
>murdering, gassing and burning millions of Jews, it is extremely unlikely 
>that these 150,000 prominent Germans of part Jewish descent, would have 
>served the Reich at all, never mind having made specific application to be 
>granted full Aryan status - especially given that there were only 
>approximately 600,000 full blooded Jews in Nazi Germany.




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Notice that since the media gave the story great coverage, on TV and in
newspapers, the real estate parasites have suddenly become silent.

Guess they finally realised that they were giving the great services of
COMFREE lots of free publicity, which would further lesson their ripoff
commissions!!


On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:34:15 GMT, DaleNorton
 wrote:

>On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:21:25 GMT, "Bernie" 
>wrote:
>
>>I bought my current house thru welist last june.   I found it the day it was 
>>listed, as I checked every day.  It was a low down assumable, no qualifying. 
>>I picked it up for $10K...price was $219K in Queensland..a detachted 
>>bungalow.  I'm sure it's over $300K now.  My payments are $600 bi weekly, 
>>and I thought at the time that was alot...boy if I had to buy a house now 
>>I'd be SOL.
>
>>Aren't welist and comfree the same type of thing?
>
>>I was working with a couple of real estate parasites who knew of my 
>>challenging circumstances...divorce, bankruptcy....do you think those 
>>fuckers gave a rats ass about finding a house for me and my children???  If 
>>I didn't do my homework myself, I'd be fucking homeless, or living in that 
>>disgusting rental I was in.
>
>>My boyfriend hired a family 'friend' to list his parents house (he takes 
>>care of his elderly parents) in cranston...that fucking c*nt didn't do 
>>shit...just sat there and told them to lower the price when the house didn't 
>>move.  His mom lost out on $16K in parasite fees for nothing.  It made me 
>>crazy at the time....and it wasn't even my house.  Even for elderly, 
>>disabled people on a very fixed income, those fucking parasites won't lower 
>>their commissions....not even for supposed 'friends'.  Real Eastate 
>>parasites don't know the meaning of the word friend. Or the word giving or 
>>compassion.   All they care about is money money money.   As soon as I find 
>>out someone is an agent...I really just don't even want to communicate with 
>>them at all.  They are worse than loan sharks, used car salesmen, and 
>>lawyers.
>
>Further to your comments about the f**ing parasites, even though it is
>illegal to have price-fixing in real estate, the SOB realtors refuse
>to work for less than MLS max ripoff rates!!
>
>Avoid real estate scammers, and use a competitor, such as COMFREE, for
>a few hundred dollars, and as the Dutch guy says:
>SAVE YOUR MONEY - $10,000 to $25,000!
>>Long live welist and comfree.
>>
>>Bernie
>>
>>"Jules Striker"  wrote in message 
>>news:6p4me25rnchl9kdiohbjfab2d36o39peoi@4ax.com...
>>> With all the extra free TV publicity, the sales through COMFREE should
>>> really increase, while MLS sales should plummet.
>>>
>>> Let the realtors starve, the damn parasites!
>>>
>>> On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:03:36 GMT, "Bernie" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Amen brother.
>>>
>>>>"Jules Striker"  wrote in message
>>>>news:c62he2d0brsbjdrecadl2a8ees9jpivh7k@4ax.com...
>>>>> Now that so many realtors are starving, because sensible home sellers
>>>>> have switched to using reasonably priced Comfree, they have filed a
>>>>> lawsuit against Comfree, and the Edmonton Journal gave it front page
>>>>> headline prominence.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is giving Comfree even more free publicity, which will result in
>>>>> even fewer sales by the parasitic realtors.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In the current real estate market, where homes are sold in a matter of
>>>>> hours or  days, only an idiot would use a parasitic real estate agent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Firms such as Comfree not only save the seller from $10,000 to $20,000
>>>>> cash, which stays in the seller's pocket, instead of the realtors.
>>>>>
>>>>> Comfree also provides a great set of instructions and guides on how to
>>>>> sell the house, as well as what to do regarding legal,etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the person actually owned the house, he should have enough smarts
>>>>> to read and understand the simple instructions from Comfree, thereby
>>>>> saving all the money, for himself.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have yet to find a real estate agent parasite worth the bullet to
>>>>> get rid of him. All the leeches want is a listing, and then you never
>>>>> see him again. He expects some hungrier parasite to sell the property,
>>>>> and he then splits the commission, for doing nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Use Comfree, and save all that money, for yourself!
>>>>> Did you see this article?
>>>>> http://www.businessedge.ca/article.cfm/newsID/10851.cfm
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4 Aug 2006 07:03:40 -0700, insomniac_cam@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Huh? As a seller, I'd show you the house, give you and information on
>>>>>>what needs to be fixed....what I recently fixed and that's it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't like making realestate (or any sale for that matter)
>>>>>>personal... if I'm selling its because the house probably needs more
>>>>>>work than I want to invest in it and I'm not going to have coffee with
>>>>>>you to discuss its 'thermal efficiencies'.... egads.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You either like what you see or you don't.... I absoluetly can't stand
>>>>>>people who hum and haw over the price if we both know its priced
>>>>>>fair... don't waste my time. Maybe thats why I've never tried
>>>>>>comfree..... and me and the wife both hate having someone follow us
>>>>>>around... as much as I appreciate the information from the seller, we
>>>>>>want to look at things and take time to notice any problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And if the house is a lemon and the seller knows it...unless he's a
>>>>>>retard he's hardly going to come out and tell you that... Caveat
>>>>>>Emptor. Remember he's trying to sell the house for the most he can get.
>>>>>>If you told me $10 to admission to come look at your house my wife
>>>>>>would kick you in the nuts and tell you youre crazy :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>tatarewicz wrote:
>>>>>>> As a buyer my preference would be to buy directly from the owner and
>>>>>>> find out everything he knows about the house, what needs to be done to
>>>>>>> improve thermal efficiency, etc., instead of trying to figure out what
>>>>>>> the problem is (which often takes twice as long as to fix it). If
>>>>>>> heavy rainfalls have caused some problem in the past, you might start
>>>>>>> on preventative measures as soon as you can rather than have these
>>>>>>> demonstrated to you in the future with associated damage. An owner has
>>>>>>> probably given some thought to various improvements, looked into 
>>>>>>> costs,
>>>>>>> merits etc. You can benefit from the research he's done; you won't get
>>>>>>> any of this information through real estate agents; they don't want 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> owner around when showing the house. If the house is a lemon the owner
>>>>>>> might have good reason to stay out of sight.  If I were selling the
>>>>>>> house I'd charge ten dollars an hour for showing it, explaining 
>>>>>>> things,
>>>>>>> etc., (over and above info in data sheet) to discourage non-serious
>>>>>>> tirekickers.  Tatarewicz
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> 
>>



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Rob Welldumb, while stealing time and internet from his employers, J.R.Paine,
still refuses to discuss the subject.

Are his employers aware of the theft of company assets by Welldumb, or should
we all phone them to let them know?
Or, email them at jrp@jrp.ca?


On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:50:53 GMT, ChrisO'Neill
 wrote:

>On 25 Mar 2006 00:36:51 -0000, arielv2  wrote:

>>Notice that Ted had listed at least 2 different Friedman
>>JEW CHILD MOLESTERS!!

>>Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former cantor of
>>the synagogue in Halifax, Canada?

>>He is the one caught as a major international distributor of KIDDIE PORN, from
>>his synagogue. THE CANADIAN COPS ALLOWED THIS FILTHY CRIMINAL to flee back to Boston,
>>where the FBI picked him up!!

>YET A WHITE CRIMINAL DOING THE SAME, IN EDMONTON, IS GIVEN 3 1/2 YEARS
>PRISON!!
>Why wasn't the ZYD given similar jail time?
________________________________________
>>On 31 Dec 2005 11:49:41 -0800, "Iamhere"  wrote:

>>>If your piece is fact, what is the major deal about one Jewish pervert
>>>vis a vis the thousands of priests who earned their prayer beads by
>>>buggering little boys? I say you are a goyische hypocrite.
>>>Iamhere
>>>======================================================================================
>>>Ted Dichtler wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:11:31 -0700, ariadne 
>>>> wrote:

>>>> Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former
>>>> cantor of the synagogue in Halifax, Canada?

>>>> He is the one caught as a major international DISTRIBUTOR of KIDDIE
>>>> PORN, from his synagogue. The Canadian cops allowed him to flee back
>>>> to Boston, where the FBI picked him up!!

>>>> Story as reported by newspaper follows:
>>>> kenmcvay  Feb 14 1999, 1:00 am
>>>> Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish, soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.ukrainian,
>>>> soc.culture.palestine
>>>> From: kenmc...@in.vino.veritas.lies
>>>> Date: 1999/02/14
>>>> Subject: Re: NIZKOR Supports ZHID Kiddie Porn Distributor from Synangogue
>>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 17:16:03 GMT, odess...@direct.ca wrote:
>>>> >On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 01:55:53 -0500, jacob bekker 
>>>> >wrote:

>>>> >>If that was "A Polish school teacher at a Halifax church..." than it was O.K.
>>>> >>J.B.
>>>> >No, it would not be OK, no matter who is the pervert.

>>>> >What is of concern, is whether the 3 NON-JEWS presently charged with
>>>> >similar crimes, will now also be allowed to leave Canada, without
>>>> >having to spend the normal 5 years in prison?

>>>> >Or, is this generosity only available to damn JEW KIDDIE PORN
>>>> >DISTRIBUTORS, especially if they are connected to a synagogue??

>>>> >>> > wrote:

>>>> ARREST SHOCKS SYNAGOGUE; TEACHER FLIES BACK TO U.S.
>>>> By EVA HOARE and AMY PUGSLEY FRASER Staff Reporters

>>>> A Hebrew school teacher and cantor at a Halifax synagogue, who downloaded
>>>> hundreds of pornographic photographs of children from the Internet, was
>>>> fined $2,200 in court Tuesday.

>>>> The fine was paid and Suart David Friedman, a
>>>> well-liked and respected member of the Beth Israel Synagogue, promptly left
>>>> the country for his native United States.

>>>> It's the first charge of its kind in Nova Scotia and justice officials
>>>> hinted that Mr. Friedman's activities - downloading a personal fantasy
>>>> collection of boys performing sexual and sadomasochistic acts - could be
>>>> connected to an international child pornography ring.

>>>> Mr. Friedman, 42, of South Park Street, Halifax, pleaded guilty to
>>>> possessing child pornography from the Internet. When Canada Customs and
>>>> police officers arrested him during a raid on his apartment Monday, the
>>>> cantor was surfing the Net. Although his private cache contained photographs
>>>> and videos - as well as gay and bondage magazines - the bulk of his
>>>> collection was 223 computer-generated photos of child pornography stored on
>>>> diskettes, on two computer hard drives, and on computer printouts.

>>>> ``It's extremely disgusting,'' said Const. Gary Martin of the Halifax
>>>> Regional Police Service, whose officers also conducted a search of Chebucto
>>>> Freenet offices, Mr. Friedman's Internet provider. ``Ninety per cent of this
>>>> material was obtained either directly or indirectly through the Internet.
>>>> Some ... was directly downloaded from the Internet and some ... was obtained
>>>> from different groups that are within the Internet,'' Const. Martin said.
>>>> ``The pictures are very explicit. It covers just about every avenue of
>>>> pornography that's out there.''

>>>> Canada Customs' intelligence division started working the case last
>>>> September and then brought in regional police, said Ed Osborne, customs'
>>>> regional intelligence officer.

>>>> Now officers - who'll spend hundreds of hours poring over the materials -
>>>> want to know if any Nova Scotian children were depicted in the ``gruesome''
>>>> photos and material seized. But they do not expect that will be the case.

>>>> Parents of children who attended the Hebrew school, shocked by the arrest,
>>>> planned to meet Tuesday night. ``As aware as people are that these things
>>>> can and do happen, it's still a shock,'' said Cathy Fox, president of the
>>>> Beth Israel Synagogue. Her three children - two sons and a daughter - were
>>>> taught by Mr. Friedman at the synagogue's Hebrew school. ``It's a very
>>>> difficult time.''

>>>> The cantor - who leads the congregation in song - taught her 13- year-old
>>>> son songs and chants that were part of his bar mitzvah ceremony last
>>>> October, Mrs. Fox said.

>>>> Some members will feel betrayed as a result of the charges. ``I think the
>>>> elderly members of our congregation will be very hurt by this.'' Some are
>>>> appalled while others expressed sympathy. ``I'm very saddened,'' said Robert
>>>> Wolman, president of the synagogue's board of governors.

>>>> Mr. Wolman said he and other board members heard about the case Monday night
>>>> and Mr. Friedman was immediately dismissed.

>>>> Wearing an olive-colored trenchcoat and a black yarmulke (skull cap) over
>>>> his greying hair, a pale and visibly nervous Mr. Friedman was ushered into
>>>> provincial court by two sheriff's deputies. Refusing even to look up at the
>>>> judge, he stared resolutely at the floor while wringing his hands.

>>>> ``This is the first (such) charge through our office,'' Crown attorney Frank
>>>> Hoskins told Judge Hughes Randall. ``But it sends a message out to the
>>>> public that if you're in possession of these images from your Internet and
>>>> they're child pornography, you can be charged with a criminal offence and
>>>> get a criminal record and a substantial fine,'' Mr. Hoskins said later.

>>>> Article Segment 2 of 2
>>>> (Ge
>>>> (Get All

>>>> Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada
>>>> and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and
>>>> electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said.

>>>> Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and
>>>> that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search
>>>> conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records.

>>>> Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated
>>>> with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His
>>>> intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown.

>>>> The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will
>>>> help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins=
>>>> said.

>>>> Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet
>>>> specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at
>>>> this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law
>>>> enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.''

>>>> Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution
>>>> of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies
>>>> are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined
>>>> comment.

>>>> Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at
>>>> $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine
>>>> ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also
>>>> confiscated.

>>>> After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston
>>>> to be with his family.

>>>> Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a
>>>> maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they
>>>> did say there was a plea bargain.

>>>> Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived
>>>> in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last
>>>> posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead
>>>> prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no
>>>> prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said.

>>>> ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox,
>>>> who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through
>>>> the media.
>>>> ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking
>>>> about how we will handle this.''

>>>> Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as
>>>> possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors.

>>>> Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or
>>>> partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related
>>>> material.

>>>> With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey
>>>> The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997.

>>>> Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to:
>>>> http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org


>>>> >On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:54:44 +0100, "mkarwan"  wrote:
>>>> >>http://judicial-inc.biz/freidman_pedophiles_from_hell.htm

>>>> >One Of Jewry's Most Explosive Incidences

>>>> >Every now and then, there is a crime so ghastly, that even the Jewish media
>>>> >control can't prevent the world from knowing. The crimes of the Friedmans were
>>>> >so atrocious, that no string pulling was going to stop this investigation.

>>>> >They were running a day care in the morning, and teaching computers to 8, 9,
>>>> >and 10 yr olds in the afternoon.

>>>> >They were found to have molested  hundreds of children, and taken extensive
>>>> >video and photographic files on their molestations.

>>>> It seems that much of the pornography and especially KIDDIE PORN
>>>> rackets worldwide are run by the JEWS!

>>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>>then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>>is a revolutionary act."
>>(George Orwell)

>>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

>>"All truth passes through three stages.
>>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>>(Arthur Schopenhauer)

>>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>>and impossible to ignore."
>>--John Bryant



>>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>>office: VISIT at:
>>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>>or call: 1-250-616-9431

>>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>>should give an indication as to the why.

>>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>>even if he or she were not naked"?
>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>>work:(780)492-0473

>>And also: George Firestone: "George" ,
>>and davejoll@ihug.co.nz, and Ariadne.mac@gmail.com.

>>Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>>JEW-WATCH:
>>http://www.jewwatch.com

>>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>>Or, other useful websites include:
>>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>>IHR - www.ihr.org
>>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

>>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.





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On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 10:27:15 -0500, Michel Boucher 
wrote:
>SueShiksaCohen  wrote in
>news:225ef2dk78gmlbohs628vjcj52sfub6gk4@4ax.com: 

>> Canada IS, and has been for years, a sex tourism destination for
>> fags, and other child molesters.

>> Read the book, "AND THE BAND PLAYED ON" to reveal the active
>> involvement of the Canadian government in the worldwide spread of
>> AIDS to other fags outside Canada, as well as within the country.

>> Canada welcomes as so-called refugees, those scum claiming to have
>> AIDS, or even just claiming to be a fag from a country where such
>> vermin are treated as the diseased perverts they are.

>If spreading these base and groundless canulars is the only way to keep 
>the mentally challenged right-wing gormless buffoons like yourself out, 
>I'm all for it.

Why do you think that the 150 AIDS-spreaders from other countries, mainly in
third world parts of the world,  who attended the fag-fest in Toronto, are now
claiming to be so-called "refugees"?

This despite the fact that their hoem countries obviously ALLOWED these
diseased to feely go to Canada, and the stupid Canadian government ALLOWED
them in!!


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Arash, the word is hatemonger, not hatemongerer.
Or, did you mean hatemongrel, being a dog?

>On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 07:23:06 +1000, "Mike"  wrote:
>>"Firnando"  wrote in message 
>>news:1157229838.487540.142230@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>>> Arash wrote:
>>>> This individual using the fake name of "Gary Rumain" (IP: 
>>>> 210.211.117.172), on a daily basis insults Muslims (He is Jewish). He 
>>>> also uses the name "I Hate muzzies", "All muzzies are dirty, filthy, 
>>>> stinking pigs".

>Subject: GARY RUMAIN'S ADDRESS & PHONE NUMBER - Call/Visit Him

>On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 08:10:16 GMT, 
>flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:
>>On  3-Dec-2005, "Ted"  wrote:
>>> The Re'evd wrote:
>>> > Suzy "convert" Cohen must have you killfiled, cunt.
>>> > She *insists* that people are only posting "Alex's" business address!

>>> OK, whatever.

>>Actually, this is just another lie of the self-proclaimed cunt who
>>calls himself "Rev" etc.
>>I only said no one did this *when* no one *had* done this.
>>He has since pretended that I said no one had done this *ever*.
>>It was HIS pretending that he had found MY home address
>>that nmade everyone post Seredin's - but I wish they had 
>>posted the phony rev's - all we have so far
>>is Gordon Radavich

>AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE ON YOU SUSAN E COHEN OF SILVER SPRING, MD
>AS HAS BEEN POSTED BY ANOTHER PARTY

>GARY A RUMAIN      Born  1964
>8112 GROVE ST
>SILVER SPRING, MD   (301) 565-9746

>SUSAN E COHEN      Born  Nov 1962
>8112 GROVE ST
>SILVER SPRING, MD  (301) 565-9746

>zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain)

>You look very stupid in your denial of the facts Susan. You have been
>successfully outed so live with it.

>On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 08:02:03 GMT, <%bTjf.9769$AB2.6571@trnddc08>
>flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:

>>And you wonder why you liars get called stupid.

>I saw no lie. Where was the lie? For the fun or it I checked it out 
>and it is all true.

>>http://www.zabasearch.com/

>Using the above search I found the following also.

>>GARY A RUMAIN      Born  1964
>>8112 GROVE ST
>>SILVER SPRING, MD   (301) 565-9746
>
>>SUSAN E COHEN      Born  Nov 1962
>>8112 GROVE ST
>>SILVER SPRING, MD  (301) 565-9746
>
>http://www.infospace.com/home/white-pages/reverse-phone
>A reverse trace of the above telephone number shows:
>
>Gary Rumain
>8112 Grove St
>Silver Spring, MD 20910-4758
>Add to Outlook 301-565-9746
>http://kevdb.infospace.com/home/white-pages/kevdb?showrec=46587777:res-us&OTMPL=/white-pages/details.htm&QN=Rumain&QF=Gary&QC=Silver%20Spring&QS=MD&wqp=1&qsubcat=singlematch
>The above long link as a TinyURL:
>http://tinyurl.com/a74xw
>
>They even show a map of how to get to your house. 
>Care to remain in denial Susan E Cohen?
>
>You made the post below did you not? 
>You admitted Gary Rumain is your husband did you not?
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.scottish/msg/5a65b7eefb1e7400
>(Archived locally as: GaryAndSusan_1)
>
>>zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain)
>>Re: Bruneian Royal Harem: "Harem Scare 'Em?" Dateline NBC 9/23/97
>>1997/10/05
>><617cpg$p9a$14@news.smart.net>
>
>>In alt.talk.royalty Yet Another Steve  wrote:
>>: In article <60snlk$hlc$9@news.smart.net>, zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain) wrote:
>
>>: Okay, you've managed to confuse me now, too.  You post under the name
>>: "Gary Rumain" and sign your postings "Susan Cohen."  Is this an instance
>>: of someone "hiding his/her identity" as well?
>
>>No. If I wanted to hide my identity, would I sign each & every post with
>>my name? We haven't been able to change the post-name so it includes mine
>>as well as my husband's. However, I was under the impression that this was
>>a common enough occurence on Usenet.
>
>>And, the "anonymity" to which I referred was the fact that, while mine is
>>genuine, the original poster's was a false e-mail address. You can reach
>>me at zenda@smart.net any time you feel like tyoing. There was no way to
>>reach the original poster. I find that very suspicious, if only because
>>it is a perennial practise of the worst trolls.
>
>>Susan Cohen
>
>
>SUSAN STILL TRYING TO GET THE ADDRESS OF HER OPPONENT
>
>>All the search engines the bigots use (which I never knew of
>>until THEY posted about them - such idiots! -) are centered
>>in the US.
>
>>Susan
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David
>Michael's detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid
>molseter, and is known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies
>must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases,
>just  to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially
>late nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.
>
>Reply-To: "George"
>,
>or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
>Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the
>like.
>
>~~
>



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On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 16:15:38 GMT, "Hans c"  wrote:

>There is not a single person i know that supports them.
Edmonton Canada did welcome them, and the new local chapter starts soon.
They were needed because of all the criminal acts, up to killing civilians,
perpetrated by all the crooked cops.

Calgary Canada also welcomed them, even meeting with the chief of police
there. The Calgary Guardian Angels will be on the streets, as soon as their
training finishes in a few weeks.

In Canada, it seems many police forces just are not interested in catching
criminals, perhaps because so many are rogue cops?


>Go back to New York and fuggin stay there.

>"Chom Noamsky"  wrote in message 
>news:ehWLg.11012$Hr1.7378@clgrps12...
>> The people must feel that since they already pay for police services out 
>> of municipal, provincial, and federal taxes, there is no need to further 
>> fund a bunch of do-gooder vigilantees.

>> http://ottsun.canoe.ca/News/National/2006/09/07/1810010-sun.html




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On 11 Feb 2007 09:05:14 -0800, "Iamhere"  wrote:

>On Feb 11, 11:10 am, BenyaminJKramer
> wrote:
>Montreal, Canada -- Blogger has removed Richard Warman's address from
>Blogger.com at the demand of the Canadian government, so I am printing
>here,
>as it appears in the Canadian phone book:

>Richard Warman
>512-440 Wiggins [Private phone]
>Ottawa, Ontario K1N 1A7 Canada
>Phone: 613-233-2070
>
>The site called for violence to be perpetrated againt Mr.Warman which
>is the reason why it was taken down. So you pick up the cudgel of hate
>and now publish the gentleman's address and phone number. In other
>words, it seems as if you are now calling for physical harm to be
>rendered Mr. Warman. If I'm wrong, explain why.
>
>Iamhere

The site asked that Warman receive the same treatment that he was advocating
for his detractors, namely lots of calls, picketing and so on.

Nowhere was violence proposed, just legal means of protests, including to his
neighbours and landlords.



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Subject: Re: Families DO NOT Want Liberal Child Care Program - Repost
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The commies and lesbians supporting the Y may want the communist type family
day care scams proposed by the socialist lieberals, but normal families most
certainly DO NOT want the scam.

If the government wants to give the PARENTS $100 a month, for the parent to
use towards whatever form of child care the parent wants, rather than the
institutionalised daycares of communism, then as Martha Stewart would say,
That is a good thing!

There already is too much government interference in families, and this may be
a step in the right direction, allowing parents to choose where they wish to
start the education of their children.


On 21 Mar 2006 16:38:40 -0800, "jlipka81@aol.com"  wrote:

>Canadian families, irrespective of where they live or the size of their
>communities, want their child care needs met by a nationally-funded
>public system and not a federal cash payout, according to a recent
>report by YWCA Canada.
>
>The report's findings are based on four community task forces held
>over the past year in four distinct communities across Canada: Halifax,
>Vancouver, Martensville, Saskatchewan, and Cambridge, Ontario.
>
>In each task force, parents, service providers and business people
>consistently said that they wanted integrated services that are
>publicly and fairly funded so that they could meet the demands of
>parents in their communities.
>
>The Conservatives are planning to scrap childcare agreements signed by
>the Liberal government and the provinces to develop a National Early
>Learning and Child Care Program. Instead, they will provide parents
>with direct payments of $1,200 a year per child.
>
>But as YWCA study director Jenny Robinson points out, the
>Conservatives' payment would amount to only $8 a week for a
>middle-income family once it is taxed - a sum that will come nowhere
>close to meeting basic child care needs. In addition, the study also
>finds that even if parents have money to buy child care services, there
>is still a shortage of services to buy.
>
>Prime Minister Stephen Harper plans to deal with this shortage by
>offering a one-time credit of $10,000 for businesses and community
>groups to create 125,000 new daycare spaces.
>
>However, 85 per cent of the costs of a child care space are operational
>costs. The Conservative plan offers nothing to keep that space going.
>Moreover, the YWCA report indicates that although tax cuts have been
>offered in some provincial jurisdictions, they have not resulted in any
>new child care spaces.
>
>Canadians want a plan that will guarantee every child - regardless of
>parental income or geography - will get a quality, affordable and
>accessible space offered by a licensed professional. Parents and
>caregivers understand, as we do, that a cash payout is not the answer
>to the country's very real need for child care.
>
>A national child care program like that envisioned in the YWCA report
>is not beyond our means. The Liberal Party has made it a priority to
>ensure the Conservative government honours the 10 multi-year child care
>deals already reached with the provinces. Canadian families deserve
>nothing less.



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Subject: Re: Canada Revenue Agency Meal Allowance Lawsuit Update - Repost
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Alan, what is latest status of this matter?
Are snivel servants still ripping off taxpapyers, or will truckers now be
allowed same as crooked trough-feeders?


On 18 Mar 2005 12:16:44 -0800, alanbaggett1@canada.com (Alan Baggett) wrote:

>Here's the latest from:

>http://pei.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=pe-truck20050318

>Truckers fight for better meal deductions  
>Last Updated Mar 18 2005 11:24 AM AST
>CBC News 
>CHARLOTTETOWN – Some P.E.I. truckers have joined a class action
>lawsuit against the Canada Revenue Agency. They want to be able to
>claim more money for meals while they're on the road.

>Summerside's Chris Murphy spends two weeks at a time rolling across
>North America in his truck, paying for three meals a day in roadside
>restaurants.
>
>He said when government employees are traveling they are paid up to
>$75 a day as compensation for their meals and related expenses.
>
>However, truckers are allowed to claim a maximum of $23 a day as a
>business expense. Murphy believes the numbers should be the same.
>
>The court case was filed in British Columbia Supreme Court in 2002.
>
>Ernie Slump, the publisher of Trucker Magazine launched the suit.
>Since then, he has added the names of 3,000 truckers to the case.
>
>He believes the federal government is trying to delay the case.
>
>"We thought we might go to court in April or May, but we think now
>that the government may drag it out further until after the next
>election because this could very well become an election issue."
>
>Murphy said he just wants the same provisions as other people who have
>to leave home for work.
>
>The federal Department of Finance won't say if deductions for meals on
>the road might be raised.
>
>
>
>canadarevenueagency@hotmail.com (Alan Baggett) wrote in message news:<8b49ba6a.0503071010.32b5b558@posting.google.com>...
>> http://www.todaystrucking.com/displayarticle.cfm?ID=3824
>> 
>> Law firm files meal allowance suit 
>> 
>> SUMMERLAND, B.C. (Mar. 7, 2005) -- B.C. law firm Johnston, Johnson &
>> Co. has filed a class-action suit on behalf of 11 truck drivers
>> seeking to overturn the unfair meal allowance portion of the federal
>> tax policy.
>> The Summerland, B.C.-based lawyers are asking the Supreme Court of
>> British Columbia to strike down a section of the Income Tax Act
>> dealing with the deduction of their meals while they are on the road.
>> 
>> "Essentially, we looked at whether truckers, bus drivers, and other
>> workers that travel for a living could unite in one cause to get
>> parity with government workers," says Tom Johnston, lead counsel on
>> the case in a statement that appears on the firm's website.
>> "Government employees receive a meal allowance of $73.10 [an amount
>> that fluctuates on a quarterly basis according to the Consumer Price
>> Index] per day plus U.S. exchange (if they were traveling in the US),
>> without receipts."
>> 
>> In the Statement of Claim, it is asserted by the plaintiffs (the
>> truckers) that CCRA [formerly Revenue Canada] "through [its]
>> administrative policies, have ruled that some of the Plaintiffs and
>> some of the Class are not entitled to a meal allowance greater than
>> $16.50 before 2003, and, $22.50 after 2003, while other taxpayers
>> received more money for meals, including allowing some, the fair meal
>> allowance rate."
>> 
>> Further, the Plaintiffs claim that the decision to allow some
>> individuals to claim a greater amount than others is unfair and
>> discriminatory, and without adequate reason.
>> 
>> Johnston says he hopes for truckers to gain parity with federal civil
>> servants covered by the Treasury Board Secretariat Travel Directive.
>> "We're also seeking to strike down the 50 percent aspect of the rule,"
>> he says. "That applies to business meals, and in the case of our
>> clients, that's clearly not the case.
>> 
>> "In the civil servants' case, he or she is consuming meals for
>> sustenance, as are truck drivers. Allowing one group a more generous
>> allowance than others isn't fair. It's clearly a discriminatory
>> practice, and the Canadian Charter of Rights makes no room for
>> distinction between one class of citizens and another."
>> 
>> Drivers wishing to join the class action may still do so by contacting
>> Johnston & Johnson at their B.C. offices, or by visiting the website.
>> If the lawsuit is successful, only those registered and paid-up of the
>> class action may be able to claim retroactive meal allowances, the
>> firm says.
>> 
>> There is a $200 fee to join the class action. Those already in the
>> class action will need to pay an additional $100.00 to remain in the
>> lawsuit. For more information, see www.summerlandlawoffice.com or
>> call, 800-494-0442.



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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:34:29 GMT, Carter  wrote:
>Yitzhak Goldstein wrote:
>> There are 2 great FREE computer programs for doing 2006 personal tax
>> returns!
>
>> Go to: http://www.redflagdeals.com/deals/main.php/freebies/P15/
>> 
>> The programs are: Studio Tax
>> and                         Taxman 2006

Both are as good, and probably better than the ripoff progs from
 Intuit!!

>You cannot e-file with Taxman 2006.  You can with Studio Tax.

save your money, and take the tax return in to the local tax office, or else
mail it in.

>Carter



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Subject: Re: FRAUD in City Tax Department - Time to FIRE/Prosecute Staff Responsible!! MORE!! No Wonder Businesses LEAVE! Repost
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No wonder Mel Forseth, Nick Gorda, Mike Chibuk, and Frank Oesterreicher do not
want the public reminded, that for 8 years they allowed a lawyer's house to be
DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, 
FOR 8 YEARS!!

One must wonder, who is on the take, to allow such irregularity for so long?

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities
>> was in  OPEN COURT, at the MGB Hearing,  March 27.

>> Again, was exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City
>> allowed the lawyer to be underassessed  for his property at 13723 -
>> 93 St., by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, for 8 years.

>Is that commercially zoned property, occupied by a residence?

It is a 2 story building, zoned DC5, with lawyer offices on main floor, and
rental apartments on upper floor.

HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year - for 8 years!
His own papers filed declared the value to be $600,000, while his
friends in the city only assessed for $149,500!!

>> In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man
>> who exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!


>> Yes, the city website is operational in May and June, which allowed
>> some of us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in
>> the MGB city tax appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES
>> by the city tax staffers!

>> One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to
>> not care about massive irregularities!!

>> It is now time, to not only FIRE those city employees involved in
>> this massive under-assessment for one of their buddies, but they
>> should also be PROSECUTED for their involvement in this massive FRAUD
>> on the city taxpayers!!

>> How many other friends of city tax department staff are also, still,
>> getting massive under-assessments, worth tens of thousands of dollars
>> per crook, apart from the well-known city lawyer exposed?

>> Time to clean house at city hall, and not just leave it up to
>> Grosvenor to take these crooks to court!!


>> From: arielv2@37.com the filthy crook, wanting everyone to know about
>> how corrupt is the cesspool called Deadmonton, wrote:
>> Newsgroups: edm.general,edm.politics
>> Subject: Re: APPEAL YOUR TAXES!!GRAFT,CORRUPTION in City Tax
>> Appeal-Lawyer Finally Got Taxes Quadrupled!! WHY BE JEWED?
>> Date: 1 Aug 2005 13:21:10 -0700

>> Why do you call our beuatiful city "deadmonton", ?
>> if you don't like it here why are you doing here? why don't you go
>> back to the rat hole you came from (england or whatever hellhole you're
>> from). stop polluting our charming city with your stinking existance. a
>> bullet thru your old and rotten head will be a great solution to your not
>> liking our city. drop dead you fucking nazi!


>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:12:18 -0600, George
>>  wrote:

>>> If your city tax assessment has increased more than the 2.4%
>>> inflation certified by StatsCan, then perhaps you also are a victim
>>> of the crooks running Deadmonton?!!

>>> If you feel you are being overcharged, then do what you are entitled
>>> to do - FILE AN APPEAL!!

>>> The odds are in your favour, since more than 80% of appeals against
>>> the City, win!!

>>> Checking the website for this year's assessments, it seems that the
>>> city of Edmonton finally obeyed the ARB,regarding the dramatically
>>> UNDERASSESSED property owned by a city liar/lawyer!.
>>> The value now is $651,000, up from the ridiculous $149,500!!!

>>> If not CORRUPTION, then at least favouritism, when property
>>> UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF MILLION DOLLARS!!

>>> Rumour has it that the city tax assessor responsible, is no longer
>>> employed by the city??
>>> Why should a private citizen have to take the City to Court, just to
>>> force the city to do a proper job, for which some slimeball is
>>> getting overpaid?


>>> From: heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb)
>>> Newsgroups:
>>> edm.general,edm.politics,ab.general,ab.politics,can.general Subject:
>>> Re: Graft,Corruption Claimed in City Tax Appeal!! LAWYER TO GET
>>> TAXES QUADRUPLED!!
>>> Date: 2 Oct 2004 08:46:23 -0700

>>> It seems that even a lawyer will finally get his comeuppance.
>>> The ARB on Monday ordered the city tax assessment department to
>>> finally correct the improper assessment and bring the value up to
>>> what it should be.

>>> This means that in one year, the assessment had to jump from the
>>> massive under-assessment of $149,500 to at least $600,000 and
>>> probably $608,000!!!

>>> Even a damned lawyer can finally get what he deserves,when someone
>>> has the guts to force the issue into a court.

>>> How many other massive UNDER-ASSESSMENTS, FOR FRIENDS OF THE CITY
>>> MANAGERS ARE OUT THERE?


>>> heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>> news:<8e4c980f.0409260720.3cd39d0f@posting.google.com>...
>>>> Regarding the article below,the City is now declining to appear
>>>> before the ARB, tomorrow at 3:30 in the afternoon!!

>>>> It seems that they do not want to name the city tax assessor
>>>> responsible for the more than $200,00 REDUCTION in the property tax
>>>> assessment of the city liar/lawyer!!

>>>> In their documents sent to the complainant, the City DOES CONFIRM
>>>> THE CORRECT VALUE AT MORE THAN $608,000!!

>>>> The tax appeal Court/ARB will be asked whether this constitutes
>>>> CORRUPTION, or/and CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE!!!

>>>> Sharx, and others annoyed with city mismanagement, care to comment?


>>>> heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>>> news:<8e4c980f.0408050922.417b9108@posting.google.com>...
>>>>> City have in fact confirmed,and helped correct previous assessment
>>>>> value.
>>>>> It was actually $149,500, while the owners declared value,in
>>>>> writing, was $600,000!!

>>>>> No explanation from the cretins in the Tax Assessment section as to
>>>>> why they gave their buddy such a massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT!!
>>>>> This while they gouge small homeowners and apartment owners with
>>>>> massive tax hikes!!

>>>>> No wonder the number of appeals this year is allegedly double.
>>>>> Perhaps the citizens are finally getting mad enough for a tax
>>>>> revolt.

>>>>>> Apparently THIS scandal is but the tip of the iceberg, regarding
>>>>>> irregularities involving the city tax department.

>>>>>> Another case,coming up in court next week, relates to an
>>>>>> out-of-court settlement the city had to make un connection with the illegal
>>>>>> closure of the southbound access road for Calgary Trail at Ellerslie Road.
>>>>>> One of the property owners, incensed at his astronomical tax
>>>>>> assessment hike this year, is presenting to the tax appeal court, the evidence
>>>>>> that business plummeted, plus that the city had to pay one of the
>>>>>> businesses!!

>>>>>> The right hand did not know what the left did.....


>>>>>> starwars  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>> Can someone explain how a well-known liar/lawyer is able to get a
>>>>>>> massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT on his palatial property,which is
>>>>>>> knowingly under-assessed by more than $200,000.00!!

>>>>>>> This property, which the lawyer and spouse have declared to be
>>>>>>> worth at least $600,000 (yes six hundred thousands because it is
>>>>>>> huge,has law offices on ground floor plus apartments on second
>>>>>>> floor was assessed last year for less than a quarter of
>>>>>>> value,for only $148,000!!

>>>>>>> After the city tax department documented in city tax appeal
>>>>>>> Court last year, evidence of the real value of $600,000. now
>>>>>>> this year it is assessed for $393,500 - still more than $200,000
>>>>>>> UNDER-ASSESSED!!

>>>>>>> At the same time, neighbours are being OVER-ASSESSED by 20%!!

>>>>>>> Naturally, cynics wonder, who is on the take in the City?



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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 04:32:48 GMT, Sew  wrote:
>On 30 Mar 2006 02:15:16 -0000, Dump The Crooks 
>wrote:

>>Canadian Taxpayers Association has exposed what many Edmonton taxpayers have
>>long suspected.

>>Because the city council and mayor pay themselves by having one third TAXFREE,
>>unlike most honest taxpayers, they are in fact way overpaid for the scams they
>>are endorsing.

>>CTA have confirmed that city councillors are in fact getting the equivalent of
>>$85,110 per year, which is more than other cities are paying.

>>The mayor is seriously overpaid, getting the equivalent of $167,870 a year!!
>>This means that the mayor of Deadmonton gets $6,000 more than Ralph Klein,
>>Premier of Alberta!!

>>Time to dump ALL the mayor and Council, and replace them with honest, hard-working
>>councillors getting a basic pay of $52,000 a year - PLUS BONUSES BASED ON LOWER TAXES
>>AND BETTER PERFORMANCE OF CITY ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS!

>>At the same time, Council should implement ZBB - Zero Based Budgetting, and fire
>>all unnecessary city managers, and close down non-appropriate city departments.
>>Let the federal and provincial governments operate those functions which are THEIR responsibilities, 
>>such as arts, sports,multiculuralism, and welfare, to name a few.

>>Sharx, Sew, Grosvenor - care to comment?

>I am in TOTAL AGREEMENT. I am tired of politicians thinking they can
>just run for office and then increase homeowners taxes just so they
>can give themselves more and more raises. It is NOT RIGHT no matter
>who they are paying to say that it is. The cost of living in Edmonton
>is way lower than Calgary or Toronto, there are fewer people living in
>Edmonton, and most of all which of the people that are running this
>city have a university degree?? After all, in order to make that kind
>of money most people NEED to have a university degree. 

You do not need to have a university degree to be a capable administrator of
billions of dollars.

You should at least be a successful BUSINESS OWNER.
Out of current 13 clowns on council, apparaently only Mike Nickel owns a
successful business.

Further, council members should be HONEST, and not support corruption and
criminality, and similar. This council went so far as to give a payoff of HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS to the former disgraced chief cop, who had been fired for
just cause!!

No honest, competent business managers would have colluded as they did!!



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A possible list of suitable targets for bombing in Canada 
will probably include the following:

Parliament when full of useless MPs and Senators
Supreme Court when full of anti-normal judges
Toronto slums where criminals based
Port of Vancouver
Port of Halifax
Port of Prince Rupert
Port of Toronto
St.Lawrence Seaway
Oil refinery Sarnia
Oil refineries Edmonton
Oil refineries Calgary
Toronto Stock Exchange
West Deadmonton Mall
Cold Lake military base
Gagetown military base
Halifax naval base
Vancouver airport
Toronto airport
Halifax airport
Montreal airport

Feel free to add other suitable targets for bombing. 


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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:14:14 -0700, VicRCurious@hotmail.com wrote:

Not only in Canada are the Russian ZYD Mafia making false claims as
alleged "REFUGEES" from israel, just so they can jump the queue for
immigration, as well as being parasites on the taxpayers of the host
countries!!

Just ask taxpayers in Australia and New Zealand about their Israelis!


>On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:36:26 -0700, Frank Arthur 
>wrote:
>
>>In a banner headline story on the front page of the issue of Canadian
>>Jew News for January 18 2007, is a huge story detailing how Israelis
>>are filing fraudulent claims as "REFUGEES", to jump the immigration
>>queues, and get into Canada.
>>
>>Even the Embassy in Canada for Israel is enraged about these false
>>claims, usually made by people who emigrated to Israel from the former
>>Soviet Union. They state categorically that these claims are
>>spurious!!
>>
>>The Israeli newspaper Ha'Aretz had a feature story in their issue for
>>31 December 2006. The article claimed that in year 2005 there were 679
>>claims as refugees made by these criminals, with many of these false
>>claims made to Canadian authorities.
>>
>>Canadian Jew News claims that 369 claims were made by Israelis
>>claiming refugee status in the 9 months from January to September 2006
>>alone!!
>>
>>The crooked Canadian Refugee people allowed 91 of these criminals to
>>stay in Canada at taxpayer expense!! In fact Israel has made the top
>>10 list of source countries for people claiming refugee status in the
>>first 3 quarters of 2006!!
>>
>>In fact, since 2000, almost 3,000 Israelis have claimed refugee
>>status, so that they can stay in Canada and live off Canadian
>>taxpayers with their fraudulent claims.



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On 29 Aug 2006 11:46:41 -0700, in can.politics "Russ"
 wrote:

JEWISH CRIME

"Of all the areas of Jewish enterprise," notes Gerald Krafetz, "none
has been so overlooked as the field of crime. And it isn't because of
a lack of Jewish criminality. For an introspective people, this
oversight is significant. It is as if Jewish crime did not exist, an
unsavory skeleton is best left in the family closet ... The
sociopathology of Jews is not an acceptable notion since it runs
counter to both religious precepts and preconceived ideas that Jews
have of themselves." [KREFETZ, p. 112] "Jews were ... involved in many
of the most visible and spectacular frauds of the post-Civil War
period," notes Benjamin Ginsberg, "as well as in economic dislocations
and financial manipulations that characterize the era." [GINSBERG, p.
75] In one much publicized scandal for instance, the Jewish governor
of South Carolina, Franklin Moses, oversaw the issue and selling of $6
million in fraudulent state securities, as well as funneling hundreds
of thousands of dollars in public funds into his own pocket.
[GINSBERG, p. 75]

In a broader financial sphere, very visibly at the top of the socio-
economic pyramid, Jewish businessman Joseph Seligman's nefarious
activities in the late 1800s helped to create the infamous "Black
Friday" stock market crash.  Benjamin Ginsberg notes that the crash

"ruined thousands of investors, implicated President Grant, and led to
a Congressional investigation of [Jay] Gould and Seligman ...
Similarly, in the early 1890s, Jacob Schiff collaborated with E. H.
Harriman in the latter's attempts to wrest control of the Northern
Pacific Railroad from J. P. Morgan and James Hill ... When the price
of the Northern Pacific Stock collapsed, the entire market crashed in
the notorious 'Black Thursday' panic that led to a nationwide economic
depression." [GINZBURG, p. 73]

In 1885 the French-based project to build the Panama Canal collapsed,
resulting in financial scandal that led, in part, to Seligman again.

"Both the United States Congress and the French Parliament had
inquiries," says Ginsberg, "In both countries major Jewish financiers
were implicated: Baron Jacques de Reinach in Paris and Joseph Seligman
in the United States. Many shareholders lost everything, but Seligman
lost nothing. In contemporary parlance, the Seligmans engaged in
influence peddling, insider trading, and corporate asset stripping and
looting -- all at the expense of credulous investors." [GINZBURG, p.
74] The French end of the Panama Canal scandals, notes Albert
Lindemann, "involved large amounts of French capital and threatened
national prestige -- and Jewish agents were deeply involved. The
intermediaries between the Panama company and parliament were almost
exclusively Jews with German names and backgrounds, some of whom tried
to blackmail one another." [LINDEMANN, p. 87]


continued at
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Rob Welldumb, while stealing time and internet from his employers, J.R.Paine,
still refuses to discuss the subject.

Are his employers aware of the theft of company assets by Welldumb, or should
we all phone them to let them know?
Or, email them at jrp@jrp.ca?


On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:50:53 GMT, ChrisO'Neill
 wrote:

>On 25 Mar 2006 00:36:51 -0000, arielv2  wrote:

>>Notice that Ted had listed at least 2 different Friedman
>>JEW CHILD MOLESTERS!!

>>Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former cantor of
>>the synagogue in Halifax, Canada?

>>He is the one caught as a major international distributor of KIDDIE PORN, from
>>his synagogue. THE CANADIAN COPS ALLOWED THIS FILTHY CRIMINAL to flee back to Boston,
>>where the FBI picked him up!!

>YET A WHITE CRIMINAL DOING THE SAME, IN EDMONTON, IS GIVEN 3 1/2 YEARS
>PRISON!!
>Why wasn't the ZYD given similar jail time?
________________________________________
>>On 31 Dec 2005 11:49:41 -0800, "Iamhere"  wrote:

>>>If your piece is fact, what is the major deal about one Jewish pervert
>>>vis a vis the thousands of priests who earned their prayer beads by
>>>buggering little boys? I say you are a goyische hypocrite.
>>>Iamhere
>>>======================================================================================
>>>Ted Dichtler wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:11:31 -0700, ariadne 
>>>> wrote:

>>>> Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former
>>>> cantor of the synagogue in Halifax, Canada?

>>>> He is the one caught as a major international DISTRIBUTOR of KIDDIE
>>>> PORN, from his synagogue. The Canadian cops allowed him to flee back
>>>> to Boston, where the FBI picked him up!!

>>>> Story as reported by newspaper follows:
>>>> kenmcvay  Feb 14 1999, 1:00 am
>>>> Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish, soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.ukrainian,
>>>> soc.culture.palestine
>>>> From: kenmc...@in.vino.veritas.lies
>>>> Date: 1999/02/14
>>>> Subject: Re: NIZKOR Supports ZHID Kiddie Porn Distributor from Synangogue
>>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 17:16:03 GMT, odess...@direct.ca wrote:
>>>> >On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 01:55:53 -0500, jacob bekker 
>>>> >wrote:

>>>> >>If that was "A Polish school teacher at a Halifax church..." than it was O.K.
>>>> >>J.B.
>>>> >No, it would not be OK, no matter who is the pervert.

>>>> >What is of concern, is whether the 3 NON-JEWS presently charged with
>>>> >similar crimes, will now also be allowed to leave Canada, without
>>>> >having to spend the normal 5 years in prison?

>>>> >Or, is this generosity only available to damn JEW KIDDIE PORN
>>>> >DISTRIBUTORS, especially if they are connected to a synagogue??

>>>> >>> > wrote:

>>>> ARREST SHOCKS SYNAGOGUE; TEACHER FLIES BACK TO U.S.
>>>> By EVA HOARE and AMY PUGSLEY FRASER Staff Reporters

>>>> A Hebrew school teacher and cantor at a Halifax synagogue, who downloaded
>>>> hundreds of pornographic photographs of children from the Internet, was
>>>> fined $2,200 in court Tuesday.

>>>> The fine was paid and Suart David Friedman, a
>>>> well-liked and respected member of the Beth Israel Synagogue, promptly left
>>>> the country for his native United States.

>>>> It's the first charge of its kind in Nova Scotia and justice officials
>>>> hinted that Mr. Friedman's activities - downloading a personal fantasy
>>>> collection of boys performing sexual and sadomasochistic acts - could be
>>>> connected to an international child pornography ring.

>>>> Mr. Friedman, 42, of South Park Street, Halifax, pleaded guilty to
>>>> possessing child pornography from the Internet. When Canada Customs and
>>>> police officers arrested him during a raid on his apartment Monday, the
>>>> cantor was surfing the Net. Although his private cache contained photographs
>>>> and videos - as well as gay and bondage magazines - the bulk of his
>>>> collection was 223 computer-generated photos of child pornography stored on
>>>> diskettes, on two computer hard drives, and on computer printouts.

>>>> ``It's extremely disgusting,'' said Const. Gary Martin of the Halifax
>>>> Regional Police Service, whose officers also conducted a search of Chebucto
>>>> Freenet offices, Mr. Friedman's Internet provider. ``Ninety per cent of this
>>>> material was obtained either directly or indirectly through the Internet.
>>>> Some ... was directly downloaded from the Internet and some ... was obtained
>>>> from different groups that are within the Internet,'' Const. Martin said.
>>>> ``The pictures are very explicit. It covers just about every avenue of
>>>> pornography that's out there.''

>>>> Canada Customs' intelligence division started working the case last
>>>> September and then brought in regional police, said Ed Osborne, customs'
>>>> regional intelligence officer.

>>>> Now officers - who'll spend hundreds of hours poring over the materials -
>>>> want to know if any Nova Scotian children were depicted in the ``gruesome''
>>>> photos and material seized. But they do not expect that will be the case.

>>>> Parents of children who attended the Hebrew school, shocked by the arrest,
>>>> planned to meet Tuesday night. ``As aware as people are that these things
>>>> can and do happen, it's still a shock,'' said Cathy Fox, president of the
>>>> Beth Israel Synagogue. Her three children - two sons and a daughter - were
>>>> taught by Mr. Friedman at the synagogue's Hebrew school. ``It's a very
>>>> difficult time.''

>>>> The cantor - who leads the congregation in song - taught her 13- year-old
>>>> son songs and chants that were part of his bar mitzvah ceremony last
>>>> October, Mrs. Fox said.

>>>> Some members will feel betrayed as a result of the charges. ``I think the
>>>> elderly members of our congregation will be very hurt by this.'' Some are
>>>> appalled while others expressed sympathy. ``I'm very saddened,'' said Robert
>>>> Wolman, president of the synagogue's board of governors.

>>>> Mr. Wolman said he and other board members heard about the case Monday night
>>>> and Mr. Friedman was immediately dismissed.

>>>> Wearing an olive-colored trenchcoat and a black yarmulke (skull cap) over
>>>> his greying hair, a pale and visibly nervous Mr. Friedman was ushered into
>>>> provincial court by two sheriff's deputies. Refusing even to look up at the
>>>> judge, he stared resolutely at the floor while wringing his hands.

>>>> ``This is the first (such) charge through our office,'' Crown attorney Frank
>>>> Hoskins told Judge Hughes Randall. ``But it sends a message out to the
>>>> public that if you're in possession of these images from your Internet and
>>>> they're child pornography, you can be charged with a criminal offence and
>>>> get a criminal record and a substantial fine,'' Mr. Hoskins said later.

>>>> Article Segment 2 of 2
>>>> (Ge
>>>> (Get All

>>>> Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada
>>>> and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and
>>>> electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said.

>>>> Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and
>>>> that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search
>>>> conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records.

>>>> Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated
>>>> with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His
>>>> intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown.

>>>> The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will
>>>> help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins=
>>>> said.

>>>> Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet
>>>> specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at
>>>> this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law
>>>> enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.''

>>>> Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution
>>>> of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies
>>>> are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined
>>>> comment.

>>>> Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at
>>>> $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine
>>>> ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also
>>>> confiscated.

>>>> After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston
>>>> to be with his family.

>>>> Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a
>>>> maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they
>>>> did say there was a plea bargain.

>>>> Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived
>>>> in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last
>>>> posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead
>>>> prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no
>>>> prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said.

>>>> ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox,
>>>> who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through
>>>> the media.
>>>> ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking
>>>> about how we will handle this.''

>>>> Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as
>>>> possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors.

>>>> Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or
>>>> partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related
>>>> material.

>>>> With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey
>>>> The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997.

>>>> Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to:
>>>> http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org


>>>> >On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:54:44 +0100, "mkarwan"  wrote:
>>>> >>http://judicial-inc.biz/freidman_pedophiles_from_hell.htm

>>>> >One Of Jewry's Most Explosive Incidences

>>>> >Every now and then, there is a crime so ghastly, that even the Jewish media
>>>> >control can't prevent the world from knowing. The crimes of the Friedmans were
>>>> >so atrocious, that no string pulling was going to stop this investigation.

>>>> >They were running a day care in the morning, and teaching computers to 8, 9,
>>>> >and 10 yr olds in the afternoon.

>>>> >They were found to have molested  hundreds of children, and taken extensive
>>>> >video and photographic files on their molestations.

>>>> It seems that much of the pornography and especially KIDDIE PORN
>>>> rackets worldwide are run by the JEWS!

>>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>>then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>>is a revolutionary act."
>>(George Orwell)

>>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

>>"All truth passes through three stages.
>>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>>(Arthur Schopenhauer)

>>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>>and impossible to ignore."
>>--John Bryant



>>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>>office: VISIT at:
>>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>>or call: 1-250-616-9431

>>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>>should give an indication as to the why.

>>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>>even if he or she were not naked"?
>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>>work:(780)492-0473

>>And also: George Firestone: "George" ,
>>and davejoll@ihug.co.nz, and Ariadne.mac@gmail.com.

>>Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>>JEW-WATCH:
>>http://www.jewwatch.com

>>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>>Or, other useful websites include:
>>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>>IHR - www.ihr.org
>>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

>>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.





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On 1 Sep 2006 02:12:02 -0700, in can.politics "auldbobpeffers@aol.com"
 wrote:

Canada government slips in key battleground: poll

OTTAWA (Reuters) - The decision by Canada's minority Conservative
government to take a strongly pro-Israel stance is costing the party
support in the influential French-speaking province of Quebec,
according to a poll published on Thursday.

A CROP survey for La Presse newspaper put support for the federal
Conservatives at 24 percent, down from 33 percent from the firm's last
poll in late June. The separatist Bloc Quebecois was at 36 percent, up
six points.

The poll -- the latest in a line of surveys showing lackluster support
for the Conservative government -- is likely to dent speculation of a
possible election later this year.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper's Conservatives control only 125 of the
308 seats in Parliament and need to boost support in Quebec if he is to
stand any chance of winning a majority in the next election. The
Conservatives won 10 of Quebec's 75 seats in the January 23 vote.

CROP vice-president Claude Gauthier said it was clear that people in
Quebec -- one of the more left-leaning provinces -- disliked Harper's
backing for Israeli attacks against Lebanon.

As well, many were outraged when eight members of a Montreal family on
holiday in Lebanon were killed by an Israeli bombardment.

"Quebecers blame the Conservatives for giving almost unconditional
support to one side from the very beginning," Gauthier told the
newspaper. Harper said at the start of the assault that the Israeli
response was measured.

"Quebecers saw that as a lack of compassion, given what was happening
to Lebanese civilians," said Gauthier, adding that some people had also
been upset by recent big military spending announcements and Harper's
decision to skip a major        AIDS conference in Toronto earlier this
month.

The opposition Liberals -- who lost the election amid a Quebec kickback
scandal -- rose four points to 21 percent.

Many political observers doubt Harper will call an election unless
national support for the party hits 40 percent. The Conservatives are
currently hovering around 36 percent, the same level they achieved in
the January election.

Separately, CROP said support for Quebec's provincial Liberal
government was unchanged at 32 percent while the separatist Parti
Quebecois gained two points to 37 percent.

Quebec Premier Jean Charest, who won power in 2003, is expected to call
an election within the next year. Gauthier said the Liberals would need
to be at least five points ahead of the Parti Quebecois to stand a
chance of retaining power.

The Parti Quebecois says that if it wins the next election, it will
quickly hold another referendum on independence. Similar province-wide
polls failed in 1980 and 1995.

The CROP poll of 1,000 people was carried out from August 17 to 28 and
is considered accurate to within three percentage points, 19 times out
of 20.



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On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:38:05 GMT, in can.politics "Kaholicious"
 wrote:

That's probably true -- that Cipal Golan quickly skuttled off to Israel after
that Gov. McGreevey scandal broke in the U.S. a couple years back

"AlX"  wrote in message
news:1155406979.338294.10020@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> The main reason that world Jewry wants Israel to exist -  tho many
> Jews are not willing to live there - is as a refuge for Jewish
> fugitives
> from around the world.  If a Jewish crook is able to make it to
> Israel, he is home free.  Israel will not extradite a Jew to any
> other country to face criminal charges - not even to the U.S.
> without whose support Israel would not even exist.

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Israeli 9/11 Crook Flees with $57 Million to Israel

> http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=91721

> Jacob "Kobi" Alexander, the Israeli founder of Comverse Technology,
> one of the leading Mossad companies involved in the terror attacks has
> fled justice in the United States and escaped to Israel with at least
> $57 million of ill-gotten gains.

> As todays New York Times reports:

> New York - Describing a brazen scheme to manipulate the granting of
> options, federal prosecutors have charged three former executives of
> Comverse Technology with mail fraud, securities fraud and wire fraud.

> In charging the former executives on Tuesday, prosecutors said they
> had used fictitious employees to create a secret slush fund of options
> to be distributed to favored employees.

> The former chief executive, Jacob Alexander, who had built Comverse
> into a $1 billion leader in the communications software market, did
> not appear in court and is believed to have fled to Germany or Israel,
> according to a person briefed on the investigation. A warrant was
> issued for his arrest.

> Alexander is highly regarded in Israel, where he once owned a stake in
> a Tel Aviv professional basketball team and where Comverse has
> extensive business operations.

> In late July, he wired $57 million to an account in Israel, according
> to court filings from the Justice Department. Millions more are
> believed to remain in his accounts in the United States, which
> prosecutors have asked to be frozen.

> http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/10/business/options.php

> (End of quote)

> Kobi Alexander should be arrested and interrogated about his knowledge
> of the events of 9/11. His company acquired the other Mossad firm,
> Odigo, shortly after it was revealed that Odigo employees had been
> forewarned of the attacks on the World Trade Center.

> This is the tip of the Israeli criminal mafia who is behind the terror
> attacks on 9/11.

> Here is a relevant section from one of my articles about Mossad's
> involvement in 9/11, which I posted on RMN on April 7, 2005:

> At least two Israel-based employees of Odigo received warnings of an
> imminent attack in New York City more than two hours before the first
> plane hit the WTC. Odigo had its U.S. headquarters two blocks from the
> WTC. The Odigo employees, however, did not pass the warning on to the
> authorities in New York City, a move that could have saved thousands
> of lives.

> Odigo has a feature called People Finder that allows users to seek out
> and contact others based on certain demographics, such as Israeli
> nationality.

> Two weeks after 9/11, Alex Diamandis, Odigo's vice president,
> reportedly said, "It was possible that the attack warning was
> broadcast to other Odigo members, but the company has not received
> reports of other recipients of the message."

> The Internet address of the sender was given to the FBI, and two
> months later it was reported that the FBI was still investigating the
> matter. There have been no media reports since.

> Odigo, like many Israeli software companies, is based and has its
> Research and Development (R&D) center in Herzliya, Israel, the small
> town north of Tel Aviv, which happens to be where Mossad's
> headquarters are located.

> Shortly after 9/11, Odigo was taken over by Comverse Technology,
> another Israeli company. Within a year, five executives from Comverse
> were reported to have profited by more than $267 million from "insider
> trading."

> http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=68985

> Kobi Alexander the Israeli crook who owned the Mossad companies who
> had clear foreknowledge of the terror attacks of 9/11. Alexander
> transferred $57 million to Israel and fled to Israel as a fugitive
> from justice. Why didn't the police arrest him before he was able to
> get away? Who warned him and allowed him to flee? This man is
> connected to the terror attacks of 9/11.





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Glad to see that the finance and collections manager for Leduc was 
on his toes, and did the job for which he gets paid!!

Time to FIRE Lowry, after recovering the $450 Grand from his pay!!

Anyone stupid enough to hire this scammer, deserves to get swindled.


On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:34:46 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
 wrote:
>On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:04:02 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
> wrote:

>>The Journal for today, Wednesday 20 September 2006, reports that EPCOR
>>management failed to pay a bill in connection with their power plant, and
>>consequently had to pay a penalty of $450,000!!

>Will Lowry get FIRED for his negligence, or will he pass the buck on some
>junior staffer?

>>Will he be required to pay this penalty, out of his salary and bonuses, since
>>he is respondible?

>>Or, will he try to get the Utilities Board to raise rates to EPCOR customers
>>to make up for his negligence?



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It seems that the government forgot to schedule a national HOLOHOAX Day for
the ZHIDS April 19 or 20 this year,with all the scandals involving the crooked
Lieberals, !!


On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:52:57 -0700, Felix Dzerzhinsky 
wrote:

Header asks a very relevant question, especially now that there are at least
52 well-documented cases of ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS, 
not forgetting the notorious KASTNER  CASE!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is exposed as a Nazi GESTAPO
COLLABORATOR!!

Why a special day, paid by taxpayers, just for the Christkiller ZHIDS?


>On 1 Feb 2005 03:38:19 -0000, Hans Wapnigg  wrote:
>>From: Nemo 
>>Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.british,aus.politics
>>Subject: Holocaust Memorial Day Should Include Victims Of  All Holocausts Of 20th Century--Not Just Jews
>>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 05:42:23 MST (pd7tw1no)

>>This day of commiseration should not be limited only to the victims of
>>the Jewish Holocaust perpetrated by European socialists (Nazis and
>>Commies) and their sympathizers during World War II.

>>It should be in sympathy for the tens of millions of victims of
>>Lenin and Stalin in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. For example,
>>the massacre of the Kulaks in Ukraine and Russia. The massacre of Polish
>>officers at Katyn by Stalin's Soviet troops which the Commies tried to
>>blame this on their socialist cousins, Hitler's Nazis.

>>The 1 million Armenians massacred by the Turks is also a holocaust that
>>should be commemorated. Then there is the tens of millions of Chinese
>>murdered by Mao in his "Great Leap Forward" and "Cultural Revolution".

>>The genocides by Pol Pot in Cambodia and Mengistu in Ethiopia should
>>also be remembered. And let us not forget the horrible genocide in
>>Ruwanda in the the 1990s in which over 900,000 perished.

>>The fact is that during the 20th century more than 100 million people
>>were murdered by socialists (Commies, Nazis). The six million Jews
>>killed by the Nazis and Communists during WW II are only a fraction
>>(less than 10%) of the total number of victims of the bloodiest century
>>in world history.

>>Notice that disgusting dying AIDS-spreader pervert Ken McVay, refuses to
>>discuss the SUBJECT of the article, because his JEW masters do not
>>want all the sheeple in Canada to start to THINK!!

>>None of the other groups of victims in Canada,or in Europe have received the 
>>same treatment, just the cursed JEWS!!

>>The Acadians of Canada did not get similar treatment from the Jew-controlled
>>government.
>>All the aboriginals murdered by the whites in Canada and USA, and Australia,
>>get no such treatment.
>>All the Ukrainians kept in concentration camps IN CANADA got no such
>>recognition, let alone all the many millions killed by the
>>JEW-controlled Soviets!!
>>There are many groups of people in Canada, and Australia, New Zealand, and 
>>Europe, who are fed up with the special treatment given to those they blame for having 
>>CHRIST killed!!


>>LisaMcVay@wowmail.com (LisaMcVay) wrote in message 
>>news:<9679f676.0311291332.73304b41@posting.google.com>...
>>> How can it be hateful, to complain legitimately about the preferential
>>> treatment given one disgusting group of creatures?

>>> For 2000 years people worldwide have had to suffer at the hands of
>>> those who had Christ murdered, because He exposed their scandalous
>>> conduct in the Jew temples.

>>> Now, Canadians must continue paying for a special holiday, just to
>>> commemmorate the HOLOHOAX!!

>>> No consideration is given to the more than 100 MILLIONS KILLED BY ZHID
>>> COMMUNISM!!


>>Now that normal people have celebrated the real Remembrance Day,
>>supposedly covering all victims of all wars, we can now wonder why
>>should there be another costly day, just for the cursed ZHIDS!!

>>Why should Canadians have to pay each year, and celebrate
>>HOLOHOAX Day, just for the nuisance ZHIDS? Is it true that
>>the filthy ZHIDS, like the BRONFMANs, control Canada?
>>Why should Canadian businesses have to pay for another
>>worthless statutory holiday, and pay staff for NOT WORKING,
>>just to satisfy some ZHIDS?

>>We already have Remembrance Day, supposedly to remember ALL
>>who died in ALL WARS.

>>We do not celebrate the HOLOCAUST of the Armenians by the Turks.
>>We do not celebrate the NANKING massacre of the Chinese by Japan.
>>We do not celebrate the genocide of German POWs in concentration
>>camps by the Allies in 1945-6.

>>Canada doesn't even celebrate the Ukrainian HOLOCAUST/FAMINE murders
>>of the tens of millions in the 1930's.
>>Canada does not celebrate the 100 millions killed by the ZHID Soviets before 
>>and during WW2.
>>Canada does not celebrate the tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians 
>>murdered by the Israeli occupation forces.Have you forgotten Sabra and Shatilla?

>>Canada doesn't celebrate the tens of thousands of natives it killed, so why the 
>>ZHIDS?
>>Australia does not celebrate all the abos killed since the British occupied 
>>Australia.

>>So why should we have a ZHID DAY?!!
>>Is it true that the BRONFMAN ZHIDS - who cheated the Canadian Tax Department
>>of unpaid $1,500 MILLIONS in taxes - do control the Canadian Government?
>>The gutless politicians who approved this discrimination should be  exterminated!!

>>Complain to your MPs, and let them know, you are fed up with ZHID control of 
>>Canada, Australia,or wherever you live!!

>>Why should sovereign countries in Europe have to kowtow to the disgusting 
>>Christkiller ZHIDS,
>>and have a special day, just for them, when they have no such special day for 
>>those of their own people who were killed by, or because of the ZHIDS?


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.


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On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 03:12:14 +0100, in soc.culture.german "Harry"
harry@leavemealone.com> wrote:
"Salah Jafar"  wrote in message 
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Rabbi in sex suit - Ex-students seek $20M
BY AUSTIN FENNER

New York Daily News - May 6, 2006

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/415306p-350953c.html

A Brooklyn rabbi and his yeshiva were hit with a $20 million civil lawsuit 
yesterday, accusing him of molesting two students more than 25 years ago.

One of the alleged victims said Rabbi Yehuda Kolko, 60, sexually assaulted 
him when he was a seventh-grade student attending Yeshiva-Mesivta Torah 
Temimah, an Ocean Parkway, Brooklyn, religious school.

"It happened in his car on the way to school and at recess during summer 
camp," the 48-year-old man said at a press conference.

The plaintiff, identified by his Miami lawyer, Jeffrey Herman, only as John 
Doe No. 1, was allegedly molested during the early 1970s over a two-year 
period, Herman said.

The alleged victim charges that Kolko had instructed him to sit on his lap and
hold the steering wheel while they were in Kolko's car on the way to 
school as the rabbi molested him.

Herman, who claims there are at least 15 victims, charges that school 
officials waged a campaign of intimidation and concealment against victims 
and their families to bury the accusations against the rabbi.

School officials could not be reached for comment.

Kolko, who lives in Midwood in a red-brick house on E. 22nd St., could not 
be reached for comment.

The other plaintiff, who was not present, was identified as a 38-year-old 
man who was allegedly sexually abused when he was also a seventh-grader in 
the 1980s.

The alleged offenses exceed New York's three-year statute of limitations.

Suit claims rabbi molested male students

Political Gateway, FL - May 6, 2006

http://www.politicalgateway.com/news/read/11647
NEW YORK, May 6 (UPI) -- A New York rabbi and his religious school are being 
sued by two men who claim they were sexually abused as children more than a 
quarter-century ago.

One man, identified as John Doe No. 1, says Rabbi Yehuda Kolko, 60, molested 
him when he was in the seventh-grade at Yeshiva-Mesivta Torah Temimah in 
Brooklyn in the 1970s, the Daily News reported. The man, now 48, said at a 
news conference that Kolko had him sit on his lap while the rabbi was 
driving him to school and also abused him at a summer camp.

The second man says he was molested 10 years later when he was a seventh 
grader.

Jeffrey Herman, a Miami lawyer representing John Doe No. 1, accuses the 
school of protecting the rabbi by intimidating boys who had been abused.

Kolko cannot face criminal charges under New York law because of a 
three-year statute of limitations.


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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 09:30:06 -0700, Yitzhak Goldstein 
wrote:

>There are 2 great FREE computer programs for doing 2006 personal tax
>returns!

>Go to: http://www.redflagdeals.com/deals/main.php/freebies/P15/

>The programs are: Studio Tax
>and                         Taxman 2006

>Both are as good, and probably better than the ripoff progs from
>Intuit!!

>No wonder the CEO of Intuit claims he will soon have something to
>compete against the great FREE programs!

Great advice for anyone looking for a computer program to do Canadian 
personal tax returns.

Avoid using any of the overpriced crap from Intuit.
They are more interested in making their work environment more 
friendly for theundesirables  and similar working there.



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On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:12:32 -0700, Frank Arthur  wrote:
>On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:34:52 GMT, Carter ,  in wrote:
>>Jeff Rainer wrote:

>>>> Have seen nothing in any of the above which changes my basic premise,
>>>> i.e. if a sentence of "life" really meant life it would take killers
>>>> away from preying on society while also guarding against their being
>>>> executed if later evidence found them to be innocent. DP should remain
>>>> for those who kill police officers or prison guards.

>>> Why is the life of a cop or prison guard more valuable than the life of 
>>> another citizen?

>>It has nothing to do with the value of life.  It recognizes that 
>>to kill someone in authority is a more serious offence than to 
>>kill someone who has no authority over the killer.

>>Carter

Cops do NOT deserve special consideration, any more than do any 
other humans killed.

Killers of cops deserve the DP, the same as do crooked politicians, 
drug dealers, AIDS-spreaderes and similar vermin!!

Go back to law of Hamurabi - an eye for an eye!



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On 1 Aug 2006 17:04:37 -0700, in ab.politics "auldbobpeffers@aol.com"
 wrote:

With the rising tide of anti-Jewish hostility in Europe getting so much
attention in recent years, it is somewhat surprising that an equally
worrisome trend across the Atlantic has gone largely unnoticed,
mounting anti-Semitism in Canada.

With 360,000 Jews, Canada is home to the fifth largest Jewish community
outside of Israel, and America's northern neighbor has long prided
itself for its tolerance, openness, and freedom. But that legacy is now
under assault amid a spate of recent, and deeply troubling, incidents.

Over the past few, there have been many high profile anti-Semitic
incidents in Canada. Synagogues have been the targets of arson attacks,
Jewish day schools have received bomb threats, and there have been
numerous property crimes and hate propaganda directed against Jews and
their institutions. The most serious incident occurred in July of 2002,
when David Rosenzweig, an Orthodox Jew, was murdered outside a kosher
restaurant in Toronto by a neo-Nazi skinhead.

For a country that has spent the past two decades fostering
multiculturalism and decrying xenophobia, the spate of anti-Semitism in
Canada is especially disconcerting. The fact that it has received less
global attention than it deserves does not take away from the danger
which it poses to Canadian society and its democratic institutions.

One Jew was already murdered in the heart of Toronto because of his
identity. It is time for the Canadian government to step in and take a
firmer stand against anti-Semitism, before this age-old prejudice
claims any more victims.

Since Stephen Harper assumed the leadership of the new Conservative
Party of Canada,
all of the progressive, centrist, practical, reasonable, pluralistic
policies held by the former
Progressive Conservative Party of Canada have been almost completely
abolished from
the new Conservative Party of Canada. Furthermore, all socially
moderate conservatives
such as Red Tories and Libertarians have been either silenced or purged
>from positions of
power within the new Conservative Party of Canada; and replaced with
American style
Conservatives who harbour racist, sexist, homophobic, bigoted,
recklessly populist,
rigidly social conformist ideals. Among those who have been card
carrying members
of the former Reform Party/Canadian Alliance in the past and who are
ethier themselves
still members and/or have influential supporters currently within the
new Conservative Party
of Canada seem to be many anti-Semites.

In particular, Stockwell Day, the former leader of the old Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance which has now more or less simply been
rebranded and repackaged as the new Conservative Party of Canada, has
come under suspicion for his past remarks. Charges that Stockwell Day
is an anti-Semite, or at least in the past promoted hostility to Jews,
continue to circulate. During the Reform Party/Canadian Alliance
leadership race Stockwell Day tried to lay such allegations to rest.
Yet questions about Stockwell Day's beliefs persist. Stockwell Day is
currently Canada's Minister for Public Safety.

Stockwell Day has a past association with James Keegstra, a vile
holocaust denier and notorious anti-Semite. As a church school
principal and spokesman for the Alberta Association of Independent
Church Schools, Stockwell Day promoted a Christian fundamentalist
curriculum that included materials that denounced Jews, Muslims, and
the purported, "liberal-humanist fallacy of democratic government". And
last but not least, there is the new Conservative Party of Canada
itself-its policies and origins and the people
it attracts. The new Conservative Party of Canada's own predecessor,
the Reform Party/Canadian Alliance, frequently made racist, sexist,
homophobic, anti-feminist,
anti-immigrant, anti-French Canadian, anti-Quebec, anti-Ontario,
anti-Atlantic Canadian,
remarks and blatently Anglo chauvinist appeals.

During the 2000 federal election campaign, the former Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance had sought to depict the most impoverished and
marginalized section of Canada's population, the native peoples, as a
"coddled minority". Unlike the Reform Party/Canadian Alliance, the new
Conservative Party of Canada does not expressly call for a sharp cut in
immigration, but it suggests, even if its subtlety and by way of
remarks made by its backbench MPs, that the Liberals have been allowing
the wrong type of people into the country. Several former Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance candidates during the 2000 federal election
campaign made even more blatant appeals to anti-immigrant prejudice.
Calgary Center MP Eric Lowther has said Canadians could use the Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance's scheme for citizen-initiated referenda to
limit immigration. Betty Granger resigned as a Reform Party/Canadian
Alliance candidate in Winnipeg after she spoke of an "Asian invasion"
of Canada's West Coast and accused Sri Lankan Tamil immigrants of using
Canada to support "terrorism". Many of these vile, disgusting,
despicably racist comments from former Reform Party/Canadian Alliance
candidates beg the question: How many of these same candidates,
employees, and MPs both past and present are still actively involved
with the new Conservative Party of Canada?.

Neo-Nazi scumbag James Keegstra and his associate Jim Green, a fellow
anti-Semite and an official in the national Social Credit party,
attended prayer meetings led by current Conservative Party of Canada
foreign affairs critic Stockwell Day. Moreover, according to James
Keegstra, in 1983 and 1984 he and Stockwell Day had chats about
"freedom of speech issues" and James Keegstra's own case.

In May 1983 the Tory Premier of Alberta, Peter Lougheed, felt it
necessary to deliver a prepared speech to the provincial legislature
that condemned James Keegstra's views as "unequivocally racial,
religiously prejudiced, historically inaccurate and distorted." He
pledged the province would undertake a review of the curriculum and
classroom monitoring to ensure "greater tolerance and respect for
minority groups."

Reputedly, Stockwell Day first met James Keegstra in 1983, after James
Keegstra, who had been fired from his job at the Eckville public high
school, moved to Bentley so he could work as an auto mechanic. Earlier
this year, Green told freelance journalist Gordon Laird that Day "had
said he wanted to be one of the first ones in there when Keegstra
opened his garage."

In Bentley, James Keegstra continued his fascist political activities.
He won election to the post of second vice-president for Alberta of the
national Social Credit Party and with Green founded the Christian
Defence League to raise founds for his battles with the Alberta
government and courts. In 1984, the arch neo-Nazi Ernst Zundel made the
pilgrimage to Bentley to solidarize himself with James Keegstra.

It might appear strange that someone like the new Conservative Party of
Canada's foreign affairs critic Stockwell Day, who was involved in his
own struggle with the government and interested in making a career in
politics, did not take pains to disassociate himself from fascists scum
like James Keegstra and Jim Green. But anti-Semitism has long had a
popular base in rural Alberta, where it has fed off two distinct but
intertwined traditions,
that of extreme right-wing Protestant fundamentalism and extreme
right-wing populism.

>From 1935 to 1971, Alberta was ruled by a party that drew its name and
initial political inspiration from the doctrine of Social Credit.
"Bible Bill" Aberhart, the preacher who founded Alberta's Social Credit
Party, made openly anti-Semitic speeches and, as a concession to
the social credit ideologues in his party, founded a government board
to disseminate social credit propaganda, principally populist and
anti-Semitic writings. In 1947-48, Aberhart's successor as Alberta
premier, Ernest Manning (father of Reform Party/Canadian Alliance
Preston Manning), purged the party's leadership of anti-Semites and
closed down the Social Credit Board. But anti-Semitic views continued
to circulate among the Social Credit periphery and feed into the
religious intolerance promoted by extreme right-wing Protestant
Fundamentalist sects, who exercised a great deal of power within the
party.

In 1980s Alberta, anti-Semitic views were not the exclusive preserve of
the remnants of the Social Credit party. One reason Alberta Premier
Lougheed publicly denounced James Keegstra was that one of his own Tory
MLAs had given a press interview in which he claimed he had never seen
"any evidence Jews were subject to mass extermination or even
persecuted under the Nazi regime". This sort of vile, disgusting,
dispicable anti-Semitism
and Holocaust denial is to be found within the grassroots of the new
Conservative Party of Canada's Alberta faction.

Neo-Nazi scumbag trash James Keegstra is a product of rural Alberta's
right-wing religious/political tradition. Stockwell Day, by contrast,
was drawn to Bentley, which has been called the buckle in Alberta's
Bible belt, by his increasing commitment to religious fundamentalism.
While Stockwell Day reportedly disagreed with James Keegstra and Jim
Green about their virulent hatred of Jews, he gravitated to the very
milieu of fundamentalist religion and political reaction from which
they emerged. Moreover, Stockwell Day, whether because of sympathy or
political calculation, saw no reason to vigorously disassociate himself
>from ethier of this Neo-Nazi pigs. For their part, James Keegstra and
Jim Green continue to express admiration for Stockwell Day, thus
further underscoring that their
parting, such as it was, was amicable.

Stockwell Day's successful struggle to secure legal recognition for 15
unlicensed Christian schools, including his own Bentley Christian
Training School, helped precipitate his entry into party politics. In
this fight, Stockwell Day vigorously advocated before various
government bodies the Accelerated Christian Education (ACE) curriculum
prepared by the Texas-based School of Tomorrow. He even said that he
was prepared "to go to jail, if need be" to uphold the right of his
school to chose what it taught.

The ACE curriculum propagated the views of the American religious
right, and arguably its more extreme elements. The curriculum was
criticized by an Alberta government Committee on Tolerance and
Understanding as promoting "a degree of insensitivity towards blacks,
Jews and natives." According to Ron Ghitter, the Committee's chairman
and a Tory of Jewish decent, "ACE schools were schools of dogma ...the
kids who came out had sort of a twisted Christianity with anti-Semitic
overtones." Remember folks, the Conservative Party of
Canada's Stockwell Day could become our next foreign minister!!!.

The ACE curriculum dismissed evolution and espoused "creation science."
Science booklets instructed, "Not all sickness is caused by demons, but
some sickness is."

Democracy was condemned, while Ian Smith, the prime minister of the
white minority-led Republic of Rhodesia, Ian Paisley, Northern
Ireland's anti-Catholic demagogue, and Chilean military dictator
Augusto Pinochet were lauded. Democracy, declared an ACE publication,
"represent(s) the ultimate deification of man, which is the very
essence of humanism and totally alien to God's word."

Obviously, there is the difficulty of explaining how a man purportedly
free of antipathy to Jews simultaneously found himself keeping company
with virulent anti-Semites and fighting for the right to use a school
curriculum which included anti-Semitic materials. More fundamentally,
Stockwell Day's defenders are most anxious that his fundamentalist
beliefs and the right-wing political tradition from which he emerges
not be made the object of public scrutiny, because they recognize the
vast majority of Canadians will find them abhorrent.

If not anti-Semitism per se, certainly intolerant attitudes toward
women, jews, gays, lesbians, bi-sexuals, trangendered people,
aboriginals, and other historically marginal groups seem to be integral
both to the new Conservative Party of Canada and the
political-religious make-up of Stockwell Day and many others within the
party.



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On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:12:32 -0700, Frank Arthur  wrote:
>On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:34:52 GMT, Carter ,  in wrote:
>>Jeff Rainer wrote:

>>>> Have seen nothing in any of the above which changes my basic premise,
>>>> i.e. if a sentence of "life" really meant life it would take killers
>>>> away from preying on society while also guarding against their being
>>>> executed if later evidence found them to be innocent. DP should remain
>>>> for those who kill police officers or prison guards.

>>> Why is the life of a cop or prison guard more valuable than the life of 
>>> another citizen?

>>It has nothing to do with the value of life.  It recognizes that 
>>to kill someone in authority is a more serious offence than to 
>>kill someone who has no authority over the killer.

>>Carter

Cops do NOT deserve special consideration, any more than do any 
other humans killed.

Killers of cops deserve the DP, the same as do crooked politicians, 
drug dealers, AIDS-spreaderes and similar vermin!!

Go back to law of Hamurabi - an eye for an eye!



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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:14:14 -0700, VicRCurious@hotmail.com wrote:

Not only in Canada are the Russian ZYD Mafia making false claims as
alleged "REFUGEES" from israel, just so they can jump the queue for
immigration, as well as being parasites on the taxpayers of the host
countries!!

Just ask taxpayers in Australia and New Zealand about their Israelis!


>On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:36:26 -0700, Frank Arthur 
>wrote:
>
>>In a banner headline story on the front page of the issue of Canadian
>>Jew News for January 18 2007, is a huge story detailing how Israelis
>>are filing fraudulent claims as "REFUGEES", to jump the immigration
>>queues, and get into Canada.
>>
>>Even the Embassy in Canada for Israel is enraged about these false
>>claims, usually made by people who emigrated to Israel from the former
>>Soviet Union. They state categorically that these claims are
>>spurious!!
>>
>>The Israeli newspaper Ha'Aretz had a feature story in their issue for
>>31 December 2006. The article claimed that in year 2005 there were 679
>>claims as refugees made by these criminals, with many of these false
>>claims made to Canadian authorities.
>>
>>Canadian Jew News claims that 369 claims were made by Israelis
>>claiming refugee status in the 9 months from January to September 2006
>>alone!!
>>
>>The crooked Canadian Refugee people allowed 91 of these criminals to
>>stay in Canada at taxpayer expense!! In fact Israel has made the top
>>10 list of source countries for people claiming refugee status in the
>>first 3 quarters of 2006!!
>>
>>In fact, since 2000, almost 3,000 Israelis have claimed refugee
>>status, so that they can stay in Canada and live off Canadian
>>taxpayers with their fraudulent claims.



From ""death.2.shitskin^muzzies\"@Winnipeg.buttfuck.in.mosque.every.friday.with.imam.who.also.likes.2.fuck.goats.just.like.mohammad.&.allah.did.what.dirty.fucktard.mohammadans.has.no.money.for.black.sex.worker.allah.liked.fucking.goats.2.may.allah.rest.in.hell.. ( Arash Ph +1-204-956-2080 )" Sat Oct 13 19:58:19 EDT 2007
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Arash Ph +1-204-956-2080 wrote:
> Baba­Bey the Turk wrote:
> 
>> moslem cartoon character muhammad was a child molester and goat fucker
> 
> 
> 
> Cant argue with that.

I bet they like porn depicting goat and camel sex - bestiality - after 
all they learn that from mohammad and allah who both enjoyed bestiality.

The dirty mohammadans.


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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 04:32:48 GMT, Sew  wrote:
>On 30 Mar 2006 02:15:16 -0000, Dump The Crooks 
>wrote:

>>Canadian Taxpayers Association has exposed what many Edmonton taxpayers have
>>long suspected.

>>Because the city council and mayor pay themselves by having one third TAXFREE,
>>unlike most honest taxpayers, they are in fact way overpaid for the scams they
>>are endorsing.

>>CTA have confirmed that city councillors are in fact getting the equivalent of
>>$85,110 per year, which is more than other cities are paying.

>>The mayor is seriously overpaid, getting the equivalent of $167,870 a year!!
>>This means that the mayor of Deadmonton gets $6,000 more than Ralph Klein,
>>Premier of Alberta!!

>>Time to dump ALL the mayor and Council, and replace them with honest, hard-working
>>councillors getting a basic pay of $52,000 a year - PLUS BONUSES BASED ON LOWER TAXES
>>AND BETTER PERFORMANCE OF CITY ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS!

>>At the same time, Council should implement ZBB - Zero Based Budgetting, and fire
>>all unnecessary city managers, and close down non-appropriate city departments.
>>Let the federal and provincial governments operate those functions which are THEIR responsibilities, 
>>such as arts, sports,multiculuralism, and welfare, to name a few.

>>Sharx, Sew, Grosvenor - care to comment?

>I am in TOTAL AGREEMENT. I am tired of politicians thinking they can
>just run for office and then increase homeowners taxes just so they
>can give themselves more and more raises. It is NOT RIGHT no matter
>who they are paying to say that it is. The cost of living in Edmonton
>is way lower than Calgary or Toronto, there are fewer people living in
>Edmonton, and most of all which of the people that are running this
>city have a university degree?? After all, in order to make that kind
>of money most people NEED to have a university degree. 

You do not need to have a university degree to be a capable administrator of
billions of dollars.

You should at least be a successful BUSINESS OWNER.
Out of current 13 clowns on council, apparaently only Mike Nickel owns a
successful business.

Further, council members should be HONEST, and not support corruption and
criminality, and similar. This council went so far as to give a payoff of HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS to the former disgraced chief cop, who had been fired for
just cause!!

No honest, competent business managers would have colluded as they did!!



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On 30 Sep 2004 18:41:39 -0000,  Student Woes wrote:

>Students complaining about exorbitantly high tuition fees
>should be complaining about all the deadwood profs on
>tenure, drawing obscenely high wages and benefits!!

>So-called professors giving unwanted and useless courses
>to 17 so-called students, (most of whom are natives having
>costs paid by taxpayers,) while drawing $120,000 or so in
>wages, is unfair to poor students struggling to pay for
>tuition, books, other fees, and of course living expenses
>such as rent and food.

>If the students would finally get angry enough to force
>university administrations to ABOLISH TENURE, then perhaps
>tuition fees would actually drop to a more acceptable level.

>Why not abolish all tenured profs, if they can not find enough
>suckers to pay the costs of their wages,class facilities and all
>the other costs connected to having a particular program. In other
>words, have only courses that students who must pay, actually want.

>If the courses are not useful to graduates in obtaining
>worthwhile employment, then the university should not be
>having useless profs sucking at the public teat, to the
>increased cost to students as well.

>How many so-called university graduates are good only for
>a part-time job at McGrungy's, because the courses for
>which they got ripped-off, are not worth anything in the
>real world of employment!!

>FIRE ALL THE USELESS PROFS, [especially those that are PC]
>and let them try to earn a living in the real world.Most of
>these profs would probably have to go on welfare!!



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Now that the PCs are planning to implement a 3 strikes law, why not also
re-introduce the DP?

On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:39:12 GMT, "princeandy"  wrote:

>It might not stop them, but sure as hell makes sure they wont offend again.

> >There has been much discussion regarding the advantages
> >of televising executions.
 
> >A few more thoughts on the subject.

> >The State can in fact auction off the rights to each and every
> >execution. The proceeds thereof could be allocated to the
> >VICTIMS of the criminals executed.

> >The victims and their families should have the RIGHT to
> >not only determine the method of execution, but should also
> >have the right and privilege of executing the criminals themselves.
  
> >Some of the types of criminals meriting execution,
> >but not limited to such, would include:
> >         rapists
> >         drug dealers
> >         AIDS spreaders
> >         home invaders
> >         armed robbers
> >         pederasts and similar child molesters
> >         crooked liars/lawyers
> >         corrupt judges
> >         corrupt politicians
> >         insane anti-DP supporters such as despicable Desi??
> >         members of parole boards allowing dangerous criminals free
> >         useless psychiatrists & welfare staff responsible for
> >              criminals being released
 
> >Additional reasons for meriting the death penalty would include:
> >  any spreader of any disease,including STD - this would
> >     obviously  include most faggots
> >  white collar criminals causing losses of more than 100,000
> >     dollars  (just ask senior citizens who have been swindled,
> >     how they would   exterminate those who preyed upon them!!)
  
> >More suggestions for both categories are invited.
  
> >Some popular methods for extermination of such vermin would include:
  
> >         crucifixion, as recommended by intphase
> >         vivisection
> >         medical experiments without anaesthetic
> >         target practice for police and military
> >         beheading
> >         hanging
> >         barbecueing by electrocution
> >         drawing & quartering  
> >Additional methods of execution have been suggested, such as:
> >	guillotining, very popular in France
> >	flaying alive until dead
> >	stoning to death - popular in some jurisdictions
 
> >Suggestions are invited, on all the above points.





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In a banner headline story across page B1 of the Edmonton Journal for 21 July
2006, Statistics Canada reports that Edmonton Canada is now the crime capital
of Canada!

The Edmonton region homicide/murder rate is documented at 4.3 per 100,000
people, compared to only 2.0 for crime-ridden Toronto!!

And, the Edmonton stats do not include bodies found outside the area, from the
notorious Edmonton serial killer of female prostitiutes!

And the city wonders why it is getting such bad international publicity,
mainly caused by the crooked cops, who apparently can not even catch a cold,
let alone the serial murderer, who is suspected by many, to be either a cop,
judge or criminologist.



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Well worth worth reading by those with brains.
It seems that Iamhere is not all there, so he is out.


On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:49:14 GMT, BenJKramer
 wrote:
>From: Ken McVay 
>Subject: DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUEDEN-MAFIA!!
>Newsgroups:
>soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.austria,soc.culture.polish


>NOTE:  Do not print this out if you reside in  Austria;
>Belgium; France; Germany; Israel; Spain or Switzerland.

>WARNING To People in Austria; Belgium; France; Germany;
>Israel; Spain and Switzerland. You can be fined,
>imprisoned or both for discussing the topics set
>forth in this article.

>From: dna-no-spam@cotse.com
>Subject: DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUDEN-MAFIA
>Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:10:10 -0500
>Newsgroups: de.soc.politik.misc
>
>22.1.2001
>
>DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUDEN-MAFIA
>
>Pardon, was wir genau sagen wollten ist DROGEN-, WAFFEN-,
>PORNO-  und ABZOCKMAFIA.
>
>Waehrend heutzutage rechte und braune Furze weltweit auf
>den Titelseiten der Freimaurerpresse Schlagzeilen
>machen, werden andere Meldungen - die tatsaechlich
>veruebten Verbrechen der Globalisten und Juden betreffend,
>bestenfalls als Minimeldung auf der Chronikseite gebracht.
>
>Der freimaurerisch-judea kontrollierten Medien-Mafia ist
>es z.B. gelungen einen blutigen Massenmord und
>Massenvergewaltigung in Wichita (USA) an 5 Weisse
>durch zwei Neger voellig zu unterdruecken.
>Wird jedoch einem Nigger-Drogendealer in Deutschland
>auch nur ein Haar gekruemmt, gibt es sofort in allen Medien
>einen Proteststurm, Kerzerlmaersche  und alle irren
>Gruen-Bolschewisten weltweit beginnen schlagartig mit
>Lichterketten, Sanktionen und sonstigen Unsinn.
>
>Ein weiteres Beispiel fuer die Macht der Juden-Mafia:
>Aus Mexiko wurde heute gemeldet, dass der Ober-Pate
>und einer der maechtigsten mexikanischen Drogenbosse,
>der Jude Joaquin Guzman aus einem luxurioesen
>"Hochsicherheitsgefaengnis" offenbar problemlos
>entfliehen konnte. Wie das?
>
>Der Direktor dieses noblen "Etablishments" und weitere
>30 Waerter (!) wurden als mutmassliche Fluchthelfer
>verhaftet.  Eine reine Alibihandlung, denn welcher
>Richter oder Polizist dem seine Karriere, sein Leben
>oder/und Familie lieb und wert ist, wird der
>"Ueberredungskunst" oder/und Scheck eines Mosche
>Rothschild oder Sharon Feigenbaum einen Widerstand
>entgegensetzen?
>
>Beweis: Die russisch-juedischen Pornohersteller in Moskau,
>die zwar pro Forma verhaftet wurden, aber nach drei Tagen
>schon wieder ihren Geschaeften im Internet nachgehen konnten.
>In russischen Gefaengnissen gibt es offenbar kein koscheres
>Essen und keine Synagoge. Das Verbrechen dieser
>beschnittenen Ratten aus der ostjuedischen Khasarengosse:
>Vor laufender Videokamera wurde Babys zu Tode vergewaltigt
>und diese Videos mit horrenden Profiten verkauft, im
>Internet angeboten und Teilausschnitte davon (dank
>einem juedischen TV-Boss) im italienischen Fernsehen
>gezeigt.  Eindeutig ein Fall fuer unsere Politiker
>auch diese Art von Kulturbereicherung zu foerdern.
>
>Da fast alle globalen Top-Verbrecher und Mafiosi
>(egal ob Drogen, Menschen- oder Waffenschoieber oder
>Pornokoenige) dieser Erde aus dem auserwaehlten Volk
>Gottes stammen, besitzen sie zumeist auch eine israelische
>Staatsbuergerschaft. Oder sie geben mitunter auch
>vor, Jude zu sein.  Wohl wissend, dass Israel nicht
>nur der groesste  antisemitische und rassistische
>Killerstaat der Erde ist, sondern auch das Paradies
>fuer jede Art von Dieben, Betrueger, Schwindler,
>Spekulanten, Kriegsverbrecher,  Holocaust-Luegner
>und auch Massenmoerder ist.
>
>Grund genug fuer den oesterreichischen Bundeskanzler
>Wolfgang Schuessel und Co. dieses dekadente Volk von
>Ganoven und  Banditen und ihre menschenrechtswidrigen
>Verbrechen (3 Millionen Semiten aus ihrer Heimat vertrieben,
>hunderte Tote in wenigen Monaten) mit weiteren
>Milliardenbetraegen zu finanzieren. Die Ausbeute
>des von "Jahwe auserwaehlten Volk" fuer nur 12 Monate
>Erpressung kann sich sehen lassen: 15 Mrd. AS die man
>dem Volk und der Wirtschaft frech aus der Tasche stiehlt.
>
>Sei's wie sei, Oesterreich ist nicht das einizige Opfer
>dieser Parasiten, denn auch andere Laender werden von
>diesen genetisch kaputten Blutegeln zu Kasse gebeten -
>und von der Presse tunlichst verheimlicht.
>
>Mit rund 100 Millionen US$ wird auch Frankreich zur
>Kasse gebeten. Geld bekommen auch jene Nachkommen
>und Kinder die nur GLAUBEN, dass ihrer Eltern ein Konto
>bei einer Bank oder Versicherung hatten. Beweisen
>muessen sie als Juden nichts.
>
>Mit rund 4,4 Milliarden wird Deutschland zur Kasse
>gebeten. Oder hat man das schon wieder vergessen?
>Das inkludiert selbstverstaendlich nicht die laufenden
>Geschenke wie zum Beispiel hochmoderne Atom U-Boote.
>(damit die Israelis weltweit unbemerkt ihre Bio-Chemischen
>voelkervernichtenden Waffen abfeuern koennen)
>
>Und diese Summen inkludieren aber keine Sonderleistungen
>wie  bezahlte Urlaubsreisen in Luxushotels, Schulen, Synagogen,
>und die Pflege der juedischen Friedhoefe bzw.
>"Holocaustdenkmaeler" (in Berlin alleine fast 500 und
>weltweit werden es sicher bei 10.000 sein).
>
>Und diese Liste des Horrors laesst sich fast endlos fortsetzen.
>Nur von den Eskimos am Nordpol, den Buschnegern
>Zentralafrikas oder den Kannibalen Borneos wurden
>noch keine "Wiedergutmachungen" und "Entschuldigungen"
>(spricht Kniefall und Fuesse kuessen) verlangt. Kein Land
>der Welt kann heute mehr sicher sein, nicht in den Zangengriff
>dieser beschnittenen Raubritter zu gelangen.
>
>Man schaetzt, 300-400 Milliarden US$ an Mafia-Schutzgelder
>wurden seit 1948 mit Hilfe der Holocaust-Keule
>und Gaskammerschwindel an die Juden bezahlt. Und dieser
>Betrag ist sicher nicht zu hoch gegriffen. Wieviele Milliarden
>davon allerdings in den Aufbau und Erhalt des organisierten
>Verbrechens geflossen sind, kann nur geschaetzt werden.
>
>
>
>I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>I like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, PAMYAT, HAMAS or Aryan Nations,etc.
>
>CALL late nights best, or even VISIT me:
>Dr Laurence B. Shiff (Nazihunter)
>327 Cortleigh Boulevard
>Toronto, Ontario M5N 1R2 CA
>Tel: 416-785-4574.
>
>alternate
>
>KASPU COM
>2788 Bathurst St.
>Toronto, Ontario m6b3a3 CA
>Tel: 416-789-5691
>(FAX) 416-789-5691
>E-Mail: shiff@kaspu.com
>
>
>My associate in the USA, who is like me, is:
>Donald Ray Ellis
>aka Pat Blakely/RevWhite/Mike Kalvatis/Rob Stewart ET AL
>108 E. Victory Street
>Star City, Arkansas 71667
>Tel: (870) 628-1437
>Email: voiceofreason@blakely.harrogate.net
>
>
>Posted courtesy of : Paul Kneisel, who likes late
>night discussions, even from Christian Identity,
>Pamyat, Aryan Nations, Stormfront, HAMAS, etc.
>I am together with McVay and L.Schiff,
>regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers to his homosexuals escorts office:
>1-250-616-9431
>Or, VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to work:(780)492-0473
>
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the website for JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>National Alliance - www.natvan.com
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay. May he rot in hell.



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Israel always rpotects its ZYD criminals, as long as they bring lots of
dollars when they flee to israel!!


On 27 Nov 2004 20:48:13 -0000, SyBernstein  wrote:

>Mamser Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>also a convicted car thief and all round molester,
>and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, now dying as a
>diseased AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>Here is the latest.......

>From: barefootjay@cadvision.com
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
>Subject: ISRAEL PROTECTS POLISH ZHID/NAZI MURDERER!!
>Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 15:59:12 +0200 (CEST)


>Israel still refuses to extradite SOLOMON MOREL, a
>Polish ZHID, who commanded a Nazi extermination camp
>in Swietochlowice, Poland.

>Morel was the camp Kommandant from February to November
>1945. Documents and witnesses show that Morel personally
>beat, tortured and killed 1,538 persons there.

>After the war, Morel supervised slave labour camps for the
>Jew-led Communist regime of Poland's Internal Security.

>Israel has since 1992 refused to extradite the ZHID
>murderer Morel to Poland, where he would stand trial
>for war crimes.

>Morel's case was featured in 1993 on the CBS-TV
>program "60 Minutes".



>I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>I like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, PAMYAT, HAMAS or Aryan Nations,etc.

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
John Bryant

TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.

We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.



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At least the government of Indonesia know what to do with garbage people, such
as drug dealers.

They know, as do other sensible governments in the area, that an executed
criminal will never re-offend!!

Further, an executed waste of skin, will not cost the taxpayers for the upkeep
in some pampering prison system!!

If only the justice systems in Australia & North America would follow suit!!!
Oz could start by executing the 4 Canadian drug trafickers it just arrested!!


On 17 Feb 2006 18:43:24 -0800, "LifeManTalking"  wrote:

>AUSTRALIA - Few Australians have much sympathy for Andrew Chan and
>Myuran Sukumaran, the two drug traffickers sentenced to death in Bali
>this week for their failed bid to smuggle more than 8kg of heroin on to
>the streets of Sydney.

>The lives of too many of their young people have been destroyed by
>drugs and, as innumerable letters to newspapers and callers to talkback
>radio have pointed out, Chan and Sukumaran could never have been in any
>doubt of the risk they took in running narcotics through Indonesia.

>But the prospect of the pair being taken from Kerobokan jail, tied to a
>tree in some lonely clearing, and shot by a paramilitary firing squad
>raises deep and disturbing moral, political and diplomatic dilemmas for
>a nation that last executed a criminal almost 40 years ago and now
>opposes the death penalty worldwide.

>Their own police provided the information that inevitably led to
>Tuesday's sentence. Their Government welcomed the death penalty given
>to the Bali bombers but opposes the same fate for Australian drug
>traffickers, and public opinion is repulsed by the prospect of
>executions at home but inconsistently accepts them abroad.

>It is a diplomatic minefield that Canberra traversed when
>Vietnamese-born Melburnian Van Tuong Nguyen was hanged in Singapore in
>December for taking heroin through Changi airport, despite Australian
>appeals for clemency.

>It is also a minefield that the nation will confront time and again:
>despite repeated warnings and the appalling reality of executions,
>there will always be people foolish enough to strap drugs to their
>bodies or conceal it in their luggage.

>Almost all will pass through Southeast Asia, the source of most of
>Australia's heroin (the Bali Nine consignment originated in Thailand)
>and where every country but Cambodia compulsorily hangs, shoots or
>lethally injects traffickers.

>Mike Phelan, the head of international operations for the Australian
>Federal Police and the man responsible for giving Indonesia the
>information it needed to arrest the Bali Nine, sees no end to the queue
>of couriers the trade calls "mules".

>"It continues to astound me that people attempt importations and move
>drugs through transit countries knowing that the death penalty exists,"
>he told ABC's Australian Story. "Many young lives get thrown away for
>the law of quick dollars."

>The AFP's role in the arrest of the Bali Nine is among the most
>sensitive of the issues facing Prime Minister John Howard, who has
>already weathered a barrage of criticism that has extended even into
>his own party room.

>The AFP caught the first whispers of a major heroin importing run in
>February last year and, in April, asked the Indonesian police to help
>uncover the members of the syndicate and the source of their supplies.

>Between them, the two forces discovered most of the names and built a
>remarkably accurate picture of their operation, including details of a
>previous successful run and another aborted attempt.

>This co-operation has become increasingly commonplace, spurred by the
>determination of all countries in the region to attack drug trafficking
>and terrorism. Intelligence swapping is required under a number of
>treaties.

>"We make no secret of the fact that the AFP has a policy of forward
>engagement where we want to stop the crimes at the source and (prevent
>them) from reaching Australian shores," Phelan said. "That's a practice
>we will continue to operate within."

>What worries many Australians is the fact that the AFP in effect turned
>over a group of young Australians to a country it knew was likely to
>execute them, rather than arresting them when they arrived home.

>The most emotional response centred on Scott Rush, 20, a drug mule who
>was jailed for life. His family, through lawyer Bob Myers, vainly asked
>the AFP to warn Rush of their interest before he left Australia.

>"No Australian public servant has the right to expose any Australian
>citizen to the death penalty," Myers told Australian Story.

>Rush and fellow mules Renae Lawrence, Martin Stephens and Michael
>Czugaj took the AFP to the Federal Court, claiming it had acted
>illegally by exposing them to the death penalty.

>While a large part of public opinion agreed, the court dismissed the
>action.

>The Government has also sidestepped criticism, pointing out that while
>the relevant treaty with Indonesia contains a clause allowing the
>Attorney-General to refuse to provide evidence if an Australian was
>charged with an offence carrying the death penalty, the AFP was free to
>do as it thought best until charges were laid.

>By the time the Bali Nine were formally charged, all the damaging
>evidence had been gathered.

>Phelan is unrepentant: "Basically all transit countries through which
>drugs come to Australia have the death penalty. The AFP cannot pick and
>choose who it chooses to cooperate with."

>International teamwork in the past few years has significantly reduced
>the flow of drugs into Australia. The most recent Australian Crime
>Commission figures, for 2003-04, show the lowest seizures of heroin for
>a decade.

>Refusal to co-operate abroad would outrage regional governments and
>threaten mutual action against other drug syndicates and terrorism.

>Public opinion in Southeast Asia also strongly favours the death
>penalty for traffickers, with polls in Singapore and Thailand showing
>support of up to 80 per cent.

>In Australia, opinion is more confused. A Morgan poll in November found
>that while only 27 per cent of Australians favoured the death penalty
>for murder, 57 per cent believed drug traffickers caught in Asia should
>die.

>Yet in the specific case of Van Nguyen, opinion was evenly divided.

>In The Australian, a newspoll found that more than 50 per cent of
>Australians favoured the death sentence for people convicted of major
>acts of terrorism.

>Howard now has to weigh all these conflicting factors in framing
>Canberra's approach to the executions of Chan and Sukumaran. He has
>said publicly he has no sympathy for the two men but will vigorously
>pursue Australia's long-standing opposition to the death penalty.

>How that is carried out will test Australian diplomacy.

>Apart from the risks to a fragile relationship, observers have pointed
>out that any blunt approach will almost certainly stiffen backs in
>Jakarta and end any chance of clemency.

>Hopes of saving Chan and Sukumaran now rest with Indonesia's
>inconsistent record in carrying out executions, the fact that in recent
>times only three of the more than 85 prisoners on death row have been
>shot, and the lengthy legal road still to be travelled.

>It may be years before their case moves through the Denpasar provincial
>High Court and the two reviews possible through the Supreme Court in
>Jakarta.

>And though President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has said he will never
>grant clemency to drug traffickers, time and quiet diplomacy may change
>his mind.

>Death penalty Australia's double dilemma 
>
>18.02.06
>By Greg Ansley



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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
 wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don't give a damn about girls of other
>confessions. 
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>>  wrote:

>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.

>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish 
>> >wrote:

>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest.......

>> >>From: Rameses 
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700
 
>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:

>> >>"Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel's
>> >>thriving sex industry.
 
>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.

>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery".

>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don't
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.


>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
 
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
 
>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore."
>> --John Bryant


>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576

>> together with
 
>> Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431

>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.

>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>> Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked"?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473

>> Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR - www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>     Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>     Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
 
>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.

>> Reply-To: "George" 



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Nochmal fragen - 
Wenn es wirklich kein Plant in Kanada gibt, dann wer hat die 32
MILLIONEN?  Ist GEKO dann kaput?

Kann Bundesfinanzamt erklaeren?


>On Tue, 16 May 2006 17:04:45 GMT, Asterix
> wrote:
>>On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:58:34 -0600, Chief Instigator
>> wrote:
>
>>>In a half page headline story in the Edmonton Journal today 15 August 2005,
>>>the report complains that even after more than 3 years, THERE IS STILL NOT
>>>EVEN THE START OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE GEKO GARBAGE 
>>>COMPUTER RECYCLING PLANT IN EDMONTON,CANADA!!
>>
>>>Because of the non-existence of the GEKO recycling plant, there is now 3235
>>>tonnes of computers piled at the site. This has caused criticism from the
>>>Electronic Recycling Corporation of Alberta, who recycle usable computers for
>>>charities. They see the waste of usable computers in the open air stockpiles,
>>>in mud and water because GEKO is not functioning, as being against the best
>>>interests of the public, and charities.
>>
>>>Dieter Obergfell, of GEKO, explaining from Essen, , now claims that
>>>construction MIGHT start this August, 3 years later than originally proposed.
>>
>>Bis jetzt, keine Plant!!
>>Wo ist 32 Millionen?
>>
>>
>>>From: Ken Levi 
>>>Newsgroups:
>>>de.soc.wirtschaft,de.soc.politik.misc,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.germany
>>>Subject: Re: GEKO-Who Is Pocketing Extra $28 MILLION?? WER
>>>PROFITIERT,Bundesfinanzamt?
>>>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:28:28 -0700
>>
>>>When GEKO claims that they will be spending more than 10 TIMES what
>>>the successful competitor MAXUS paid for their plant, and when MAXUS
>>>even paid for their land which GEKO will not, one has to ask, WHO IS
>>>GETTING THE EXTRA 28 MILLIONEN??
>>
>>>Has Bundesfinanzamt approved the removal of the more than 30 millionen
>>>from Germany?
>>
>>>Have the shareholders of GEKO been given all the facts regarding the
>>>disappearance of this money from their control?
>>
>>>
>>>On 9 Nov 2004 00:39:27 -0000, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header
>>>(DanChristensen) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Here in Canada, people have another extremely interesting question, which manager of
>>>>GEKO Recycling Technologies Dieter Obergfell can not answer!!
>>>>WHY IS THE EDMONTON CANADA GARBAGE PROJECT FOR GEKO GOING TO COST 30 MILLIONEN,
>>>>since they do not have to pay for the land of 5 acres?
>>>
>>>>In the nearby community of Ryley, the competitor doing the same work,
>>>>MAXUS TECHNOLOGTY CORPORATION, paid under
>>>>$3 millionen, which included the cost for their land!!
>>>
>>>>WHO IS POCKETING THE EXTRA $27 MILLIONEN? WER PROFITIERT?
>>>
>>>
>>>>An interesting question for Deutsche Bundesfinanzamt - Did GEKO pay the taxes 
>>>>in Germany, on the 30 million they say they will spend/lose
>>>>in Edmonton, Canada?
>>>
>>>
>>>>A local paper in Edmonton,Canada is reporting that the firm GEKO, division of DiHAG/GEKO
>>>>is supposed to be spending $30 million for a computer recycling plant at the 
>>>>local garbage dump.
>>>
>>>>It is not clear why GEKO are building this overpriced facility.
>>>
>>>>For more than 3 years, a competitor, MAXUS Technology Corporation, has been in 
>>>>business in a nearby town.
>>>>MAXUS have also made contracts with communities throughout western Canada and 
>>>>also the USA, to have trainloads of computers and similar
>>>>materials available for processing, leaving next to no product for GEKO!!
>>>
>>>>Because GEKO did NOT build when they said they would, 2 years ago, the mayor 
>>>>was defeated in his bid for re- election this week!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>Subject: Germany Continues Boycott of Deadmonton
>>>>Date: 1999/07/25
>>>>Message-ID: <199907251430.QAA17273@mail.replay.com>#1/1
>>>>Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,soc.culture.german
>>>
>>>>The media report that no businesses from Germany bothered
>>>>to attend this year's Klondike Days in Deadmonton, (Edmonton)Canada
>>>
>>>>Even though GERMANY was the featured nation.
>>>
>>>>Could this perhaps have something to do with the snubbing
>>>>by Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH Smith, of the international trade
>>>>delegation from Germany, whom he REFUSED to meet?
>>>
>>>>Smith refused to meet with the large delegation of people from Berlin,
>>>>who had been scheduled by both the provincial government trade office,
>>>>as well as City Hall.
>>>
>>>>The trade delegation after being snubbed by Smith, then went on to
>>>>Calgary, where they were welcomed. They also did do considerable
>>>>business, in the pro-business city, unlike the welfare  dump of
>>>>Deadmonton.
>>>
>>>>This INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT was documented in detail in the
>>>>Edmonton Journal 3 times - 1 December 1995 on page B2,
>>>>on 12 January 1996 on page B3, and again on 28 March 1996 on page A14.
>>>
>>>>The media in Germany carried many articles, denouncing the
>>>>anti-German actions of Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH.
>>>
>>>>It seems that even though slick Willy squanders piles of
>>>>taxpayer dollars wining and dining and traipsing off to
>>>>Germany, the businesspeople there still remember him as
>>>>Burgermeister Arschloch.
>>>
>>>>That is why Deadmonton is still blackballed by thinking Germans.
>>>
>>>>Now, slick Willy is trying to con some Germans running GEKO to
>>>>build a recycling plant for computers, WITHOUT TELLING THEM THAT
>>>>THEY ARE TOO LATE!!
>>>
>>>>Another local firm MAXUS TECHNOLOGY INC. has built a multi-million dollar 
>>>>facility near Edmonton, already operating, to handle millions of tonnes of old computers from all over 
>>>>Canada and the USA!!
>>>
>>>>Are Germans so stupid as to believe a mayor, whose own business as
>>>>a used tire dealer went under?? Ask Michelin about B & D Tiretown,
>>>>or even ask Jan Reimer who brought it up in the election campaign...
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Subject: Wish To Dispose of Dealer Stock-$3 Million CV Stamp Collections-
Verkauf/Tausch $3 Millionen BiefmarkenSammlungen

We seek a buyer of all our stock, for cash payable to our bankers.
Approximately $3 million CV, with main areas of interest:
GB
Canada
Germany
Commonwealth
France
USA
Australia
Austria
Switzerland
Israel
etc.

If interested, kindly advise.
The reason for sale, eyesight going blind. 
Ich verliere meine Sict,und gehe Blinde.
Am NOT interested in consigning, or auction, only full cash sale.

We mean CASH for the buyer to take all, not cheques, drafts, or whatever.
May consider part swap for something significant, such as clear title cottage,
motorhome, or?
Am located in northern Canada.

Reply to: JoeBlough@operamail.com

P.S. Nigerian Scam and similar just disregarded as worthless.




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Subject: Wish To Dispose of Dealer Stock-$3 Million CV Stamp Collections-
Verkauf/Tausch $3 Millionen BiefmarkenSammlungen

We seek a buyer of all our stock, for cash payable to our bankers.
Approximately $3 million CV, with main areas of interest:
GB
Canada
Germany
Commonwealth
France
USA
Australia
Austria
Switzerland
Israel
etc.

If interested, kindly advise.
The reason for sale, eyesight going blind. 
Ich verliere meine Sict,und gehe Blinde.
Am NOT interested in consigning, or auction, only full cash sale.

We mean CASH for the buyer to take all, not cheques, drafts, or whatever.
May consider part swap for something significant, such as clear title cottage,
motorhome, or?
Am located in northern Canada.

Reply to: JoeBlough@operamail.com

P.S. Nigerian Scam and similar just disregarded as worthless.

Verkauf/Tausch $3 Millionen BiefmarkenSammlungen von 
Briefmarken Sammlungen Zu Verfügen

Wir suchen einen Käufer von unserer ganzen Aktie, für Bargeld das zahlbar 
ist zu unseren Bankiers. 
Ungefähr $3 Millionen KatalogwertF, mit Hauptgebieten 
des Interesses: 
GB 
Kanada 
Deutschland
Britische Commonwealth 
Frankreich 
Vereinigten Staaten
Australien 
Österreich 
Schweiz 
Israel usw.

Wenn interessiert, freundlich rät. 
Der Grund zum Verkauf, gehend Sehvermögen 
blendet. 
Ich verliere meine Sicht, und gehe Blinde. 
Interessiere mich NICHT für Schicken, oder Auktion, nur volles Bargeschäft.

Wir bedeuten, dass BARGELD für den Käufer alle nimmt, nicht Schecke, 
Kann teils Tausch für etwas bedeutsames, wie 
zum Beispiel klares Titellandhaus, motorhome, oder bedenken? 
Bin in nördlichem Kanada befunden. 
P. S. Nigerianisch Scam und ähnlich hat nur als 
wertlos nicht beachtet.





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If she/it wasn't so repulsive, the pictures would be laughable...

On 3 Sep 2006 18:23:16 -0000, Ariadne@mac.hush.com
wrote:

>These are the best pictures I can find of me, LOL...
>Spouting Hot Air: http://tinyurl.com/apzwp

>Isn't 'Ariadne' the literal for (female) "spawn of Satan?"
>The "spawn" on her treadmill... http://tinyurl.com/qomwc

>This is one from when she was up on a midnight run to the
>refridgerator:
>http://tinyurl.com/rxum3

>Arid-Asshole at a ladies only Sumo Swim-Meet in Sheffield:
>http://tinyurl.com/p2zbq

>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)

>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)

>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>Reply-To: "George" ,
>or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
>Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.
>



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The zionazi ZYDS do not like to be reminded of this!
The ZYDS even use their shabbas-goy McVay, to try and deflect
this TRUE information.

The Christkillers dislike being reminded about the ZYD COLLABORATEURS - such
as KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI AND WIESENTHAL!!

Evean fat Hermann Goering used jews in his home and in the Luftwaffe.

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 03:15:15 GMT, "amigo  cabal" 
wrote:

>Germans of Jewish Descent Who Served Hitler

>Possibly one of the most damning indictments of the allegations surrounding 
>the Holocaust and Nazi racial policy, come in an analysis of Germans of part 
>Jewish descent who were not only ardent Nazis but who faithfully served the 
>Nazi state at all levels in its military structure. For if the Nazi state 
>had, as is so often claimed, been hell bent on killing all traces of Jews, 
>it would never have allowed these individuals into positions which they did 
>hold - including army and air force generals.

>As discussed earlier, the Nazi racial laws made specific allowances for such 
>exceptions, and in fact actively sought to assimilate partial Jews into 
>German society, rather than have them re-congregate and form pure Jewish 
>gene pools once again. From the Nazi side, there was therefore no 
>contradiction between the assimilation of part Jews into German society, 
>although this policy is subject to considerable misunderstanding from 
>outside observers.

>As discussed in the book by American Military University professor Bryan 
>Mark Rigg in his book "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers, The Untold Story of Nazi 
>Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military" (University 
>Press of Kansas, Modern War Studies, May 2002) as many as 150,000 men of 
>part Jewish descent, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, 
>even generals and admirals, fought for Nazi Germany right to the bitter end.

>Almost all of these 150,000 men received special exemptions and declarations 
>of being "true Germans", many of these orders being signed by Adolf Hitler 
>himself, in a legal provision known as the Deutschblütigkeitserklärung (or 
>literally, the Declaration of German Blood).

>Above: photographs of Wehrmacht soldier and half-Jew Anton Mayer, typical of 
>those which accompanied an application for exemption under the Nazis' racial 
>laws.

>Above left: Quarter-Jew Admiral Bernhard Rogge wearing his Knight's Cross 
>(Ritterkreuz) with oak leaves. Above right: Adolf Hitler personally declared 
>Luftwaffe Field Marshall Erhard Milch (standing left) as  an Aryan, even 
>though Milch was half-Jewish. To Milch's right, General Wolfram von 
>Richthofen.

>Above right: Half-Jew Luftwaffe General Helmut Wilberg; above right: The 
>military service book of half-Jew Hermann Aub.

>Above left: World War One veteran and half-Jew, General Johannes Zukertort; 
>and above right: Half-Jew Commander Paul Ascher, Admiral Lütjens's first 
>staff officer on the battleship Bismarck.

>Above left: Half-Jew Colonel Walter H. Hollaender, decorated with the 
>Knight's Cross (Ritterkreuz) and German-Cross in Gold; and above right: 
>Half-Jew Wehrmacht soldier Werner Goldberg.

>"KNOWING THE NAZI STATE FOR WHAT IT WAS"

>The significance of these Germans of Jewish descent serving the Third Reich 
>has not been lost on the academic world: for example, the following quote 
>from historian John Keegan in his review of Bryan Mark Rigg's book:
>
>"The revelation that Germans of Jewish blood, knowing the Nazi regime for 
>what it was, served Hitler as uniformed members of his armed forces must 
>come as a profound shock. It will surprise even professional historians of 
>the Nazi years."  - John Keegan, author of The Face of Battle and The Second 
>World War,  (http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html)

>Keegan is of course, mistaken in the one sense, in that even a cursory study 
>of Nazi racial laws will have revealed that the Blood Protection Law of 1935 
>make specific allowances for such cases, and only the general hysteria and 
>ignorance of what the Nazis actually said and did has allowed people to be 
>"shocked" by the large number of part Jews serving the Reich.

>The phrase "knowing the Nazi regime for what it was" above by Keegan, is 
>however the real significant part: for indeed, if the Nazis had been mass 
>murdering, gassing and burning millions of Jews, it is extremely unlikely 
>that these 150,000 prominent Germans of part Jewish descent, would have 
>served the Reich at all, never mind having made specific application to be 
>granted full Aryan status - especially given that there were only 
>approximately 600,000 full blooded Jews in Nazi Germany.




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On Sun, 20 August 2006  08:54:37 -0700, Ken McVaySOBC
wrote:

This is more than true, if you read the book "OTHER LOSSES" by
Bacque!

It seems that those who were involved in this gencoide after the war,
tried hard to suppress news about their crimes, and many of the
victims died, fearing harm to their families if they told the truth.

Now, with more and more survivors willing to testify, including some
of the US military involved, the truth is being substantiated!


>>>On 13 Dec 2004 01:34:52 -0800, "Schorsch"  wrote:
>>>Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>> In article <1102789129.632939.294380@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>>> Schorsch  wrote:
>> >Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People
>> >Measures for the Devastation of the Heart of Europe

>>> Was there some point you wished to make?

>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article...

>>>Subject: Es Stimmt-Ike's Death Camps for Germans!!

>>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting 
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still 
>>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the 
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all 
>>>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>>Here is the latest.......

>>>From: cmsahe@excite.com (Carlos cmsahe)
>>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.europe
>>>Subject: "Ike"'s Death camps
>>>Date: 18 Feb 2002 07:43:47 -0800

>>>A U.S. PRISON GUARD AT ONE OF "IKE'S DEATH CAMPS"

>>>By Martin Brech

>>>FORTY-FIVE years ago, I witnessed an atrocity: the deliberate
>>>starvation of German POWs by our own army. History, written by the
>>>victors, suppressed all news of this atrocity until James Bacque, a
>>>Canadian author, published his brilliant expose, OTHER LOSSES. This
>>>book is a best seller in Canada, a sensation in Europe, yet is
>>>virtually unavailable (censored?) in the U.S. Our major booksellers
>>>told me their distributors are not handling it. When I prevailed upon
>>>a small, independent bookstore to order direct from Canada, the
>>>publisher told them they would be the only store in New York State to
>>>carry the book. This in 'the land of the free'?"

>>>Fortunately, Pat Buchanan called attention to OTHER LOSSES in his
>>>January 10, 1990 column. He wrote:

>>>"Conclusion: the U.S. Army killed ten times as many Germans in POW
>>>camps as we did on battlefields from Normandy to V.E. day. (German
>>>POWs) had their rations cut below survival level until they were dying
>>>at rates up to 30% of exposure, starvation and neglect... Red Cross
>>>food trains were turned back and U.S. food shipments sat on the
>>>docks...One French officer said the U.S. camps reminded him of Dachau
>>>and Buchenwald...The book blames Eisenhower. 'The German is a beast,'
>>>Ike had written...But that was not how the Canadians and British felt,
>>>who treated their prisoners justly...It was not the view of General
>>>Mark Clark, nor of Patton...Ignoring the book is not enough."
>>>Pat Buchanan's courageous column inspired me to help end the cover-up
>>>of the atrocity I had witnessed. I wrote letters to several newspapers
>>>which were, of necessity, short and incomplete. Now I would like to
>>>finally free more of my painful memories, hoping to be heard, so that
>>>this will help us to acknowledge our share in the "banality of evil",
>>>cleansing ourselves with the truth. Perhaps we as a nation may then
>>>put this behind us with some integrity and with some hope for
>>>redemption.

>>>In October 1944, at age eighteen, I was drafted into the army while a
>>>student at the NYS College of Forestry. Largely due to the "Battle of
>>>the Bulge", my training was cut short, my furlough cut in half, and I
>>>was then immediately sent overseas. Upon arrival in Le Havre, France,
>>>we were quickly loaded into boxcars and shipped to the front. By the
>>>time we reached it, I had developed mononucleosis severely enough to
>>>be sent to a hospital in Belgium.

>>>By the time I left the hospital, the unit I had trained with in
>>>Spartenburg, South Carolina was so deeply into Germany that I warn
>>>placed in a "repo depo" (a replacement depot) despite my protests. I
>>>then lost interest in which units I was assigned to because non-combat
>>>units were generally not respected. My separation qualification record
>>>states that I served mostly with the 14th Infantry Regiment, during
>>>which time I guarded prisoners of war and served as an interpreter.
>>>During my seventeen month stay in Germany, I was transferred to other
>>>outfits also.

>>>In late March or early April 1945, I was assigned to help guard a POW
>>>camp near Andernach along the Rhine. I had four years of high school
>>>German, so I was able to talk to the prisoners, although this was
>>>forbidden.

>>>Gradually, however, I was used as an interpreter and asked to ferret
>>>out the S.S. (I found none.)

>>>In Andernach, between 50,000 and 65,000 prisoners, ranging in age from
>>>very young teens to very old men, were crowded together in an open
>>>field surrounded by barbed wire. The women were kept in a separate
>>>enclosure which I did not see until later. The men I guarded had no
>>>tents or other shelter, no blankets and many had no coats. Inadequate
>>>numbers of slit trenches were provided for excrement, and so the men
>>>lived and slept in the mud and increasing filth during a cold, wet
>>>spring. Their misery from exposure alone was evident.

>>>It was even more shocking to see them eating grass, sometimes throwing
>>>it into a tin can containing a thin soup. They told me they did this
>>>hoping to ease their hunger pains. Soon their emaciation was evident.
>>>Dysentery raged and, too weak and crowded to reach the slit trenches,
>>>they were increasingly sleeping in excrement. I saw no sign of
>>>provision for water, so the thin soup was their food and water for the
>>>day. Some days there was bread, less than a slice each. Other days
>>>there was nothing.

>>>The sight of so many men desperate for food and water, sickening and
>>>dying before our eyes, is indescribable. Even now, I can only think of
>>>it momentarily.

>>>We had ample food and supplies that could have been shared more
>>>humanely, and we could have offered some medical assistance, but did
>>>nothing. Only the dead were quickly and efficiently taken care of:
>>>hauled away to mass graves.

>>>My outrage reached the point that I protested to my officers, but I
>>>was met with hostility or bland indifference. When pressed, they
>>>explained they were under strict orders from "higher up". No officer
>>>would dare to systematically do this to over 50,000 prisoners if he
>>>felt he was violating general policy and subject to court martial. The
>>>term "war criminal" was just beginning to come into fashion.

>>>Realizing my protests were useless, I asked a friend working in the
>>>kitchen if he could slip me some extra food for the prisoners. He too
>>>repeated that they were under strict orders to severely ration the
>>>prisoners' food, and that these orders came from "higher up". But he
>>>said they had more food than they knew what to do with and would sneak
>>>me some.

>>>When I threw this food over the barbed wires to the prisoners I was
>>>caught and threatened with imprisonment. I repeated the "offense", and
>>>one officer threatened to shoot me. I naturally assumed this was a
>>>bluff, but I began to have some doubts after I encountered a captain
>>>on a hill above the Rhine shooting down at a group of German civilian
>>>women with his .45 caliber pistol. When I asked, "Why?" he mumbled,
>>>"Target practice," and fired until his pistol was empty. I saw the
>>>women running for cover, but, at that distance, couldn't tell if any
>>>had been hit.

>>>This is when I more fully realized I was dealing with some
>>>cold-blooded killers filled with moralistic hatred. They considered
>>>the Germans sub-human and worthy of extermination; another expression
>>>of the downward spiral of racism. Articles in the G.I. newspaper,
>>>Stars & Stripes, played up the Nazi concentration camps, complete with
>>>photographs of emaciated bodies; this amplified our self-righteous
>>>cruelty and made it easier to imitate behavior we were supposed to
>>>oppose. Also, I think, soldiers not exposed to combat were trying to
>>>prove how tough they were by taking it out on the prisoners and
>>>civilians. At least, many combat soldiers told me later they would not
>>>have tolerated this, for they combined hatred with respect for a
>>>courageous enemy.

>>>The prisoners I spoke to were mostly simple farmers and workingmen, as
>>>ignorant, albeit nationalistic, as many of our own troops. I heard
>>>many versions of "my country, right or wrong, my country," which we
>>>still hear in our own country today.

>>>As time went on, many of them lapsed into a Zombie-like state of
>>>listlessness. Others, maddened by thirst, tried to escape in a
>>>desperate or suicidal fashion, running through open fields in broad
>>>daylight towards the Rhine to quench their thirst. They were mowed
>>>down.

>>>Some prisoners were extremely eager for cigarettes, saying they took
>>>the edge off their hunger. Accordingly, some enterprising G.I. "Yankee
>>>traders" were acquiring hordes of wrist watches and rings in exchange
>>>for handfuls of cigarettes or less. When I began throwing cartons of
>>>cigar-ettes to the prisoners to ruin this trade, I found myself
>>>threatened by rank-and-file G.I.s also. At least this taught me an
>>>indelible lesson: how wrong majorities and authorities can be.

>>>A bright spot in this gloomy picture came, oddly enough, one night
>>>when I was put on the "graveyard shift", from two to four A.M.
>>>Actually, there was a graveyard on the uphill side of this enclosure,
>>>not many yards away. My superiors had forgotten to give me a
>>>flashlight and I hadn't bothered to ask, being disgusted with the
>>>whole situation by that time. It was a fairly bright night and I soon
>>>became aware of a prisoner crawling under the wires to the graveyard.
>>>We were supposed to shoot escapees on sight, so I started to get up to
>>>warn him to get back. Suddenly I noticed another prisoner crawling
>>>from the graveyard back to the enclosure. They were risking their
>>>lives to get to the graveyard for something; I had to investigate.

>>>When I entered the gloom of this shrubby, tree-shaded cemetery, I
>>>never felt more vulnerable, but somehow curiosity kept me going.
>>>Despite my caution, I tripped over the legs of someone in a prone
>>>position. Whipping my rifle around while stumbling and trying to
>>>regain composure of mind and body, I soon was relieved I hadn't
>>>reflexively fired. The figure sat up, moving erratically. Gradually I
>>>could see the beautiful but terror-stricken face of a woman with a
>>>picnic basket nearby. German civilians were not allowed to feed, nor
>>>even come near, the prisoners, so I quickly assured her I approved of
>>>what she was doing, not to be afraid, and that I would leave the
>>>graveyard to get out of the way, telling no one.

>>>I left the graveyard as quickly as possible and sat down, leaning
>>>against a tree at the edge CF the cemetary to be inconspicuous and not
>>>frighten the prisoners. I imagined then, and often since, what it
>>>would be like to be a prisoner under those conditions and meet a
>>>beautiful woman with a picnic basket. I never saw her again, but I
>>>have never forgotten her face.

>>>While I watched, more prisoners crawled to and from the enclosure. I
>>>saw they were dragging food back to their comrades and could only
>>>admire their courage and devotion. As I walked back to my quarters at
>>>the end of my shift, a nightingale and I were singing -- both felt a
>>>touch of spring.

>>>(I originally did not intend to reveal the following incident, for it
>>>moves into a realm termed "mystical". However, for me, it was an
>>>extremely significant experience, changing my life, providing a light
>>>no darkness can extinguish. It must be told, hoping it will foster
>>>understanding.)

>>>On May 8, V.E. day, I decided to celebrate with some prisoners I was
>>>guarding who were baking bread, meager amounts of which the other
>>>prisoners occasionally received. This group had all the bread they
>>>could eat, and shared the jovial mood generated by the end of the war.
>>>We all thought we would be going home soon, a pathetic hope on their
>>>part. We were in what was to become the French zone, and I later
>>>witnessed the brutality of the French soldiers when we transferred our
>>>prisoners to them for their slave labor camps (see below).

>>>However, on this day we were happy.

>>>After chatting with them about the potentials of peace for the rest of
>>>our lives, I decided to risk a gesture of trust that objectively would
>>>seem foolish. I emptied my rifle and stood it in the corner. They
>>>tested me further by asking to play with it, and I agreed. Intuitively
>>>I felt I could rely on their sense of honor not to attack me, for they
>>>knew they too were being tested. This thoroughly 'broke the ice', and
>>>soon we were singing songs we taught each other or I had learned in
>>>high school German ("Du, du, liegst mir im Herzen"). Out of gratitude,
>>>they secretly baked a small sweet bread and insisted I take it,
>>>explaining it was the only possible gift they had left to offer.
>>>Expressing my gratitude with a lump in my throat, I put it in my tight
>>>"Eisenhower jacket" so I could sneak it back to my barracks. I later
>>>found an opportunity to eat it outside.

>>>Never had bread tasted more delicious, nor conveyed to me a deeper
>>>sense of communion while eating it. A wonderful feeling pervaded me,
>>>gently opening me to an intimation of the Oneness of all Being.
>>>Through those prisoners I sensed the ~cosmic presence of what has been
>>>called the Christ, Buddha-nature, or, perhaps most aptly, the
>>>Ineffable: cosmically present, but hidden and apparently separate,
>>>until revealed in the wholeness of the giving of the self. Even within
>>>the horror humans had created, I was taught a path to redemption may
>>>open by taking a first, tentative step in the direction of love,
>>>understanding and forgiveness. This above all the prisoners taught me:
>>>not only are we all potentially humane humans, there is divinity
>>>within us waiting for us to dissolve the defensive shield of ego. I
>>>was pleased to discover later the words of Matthew 25:34-46,
>>>expressing the potential within prisoners and all who are at our
>>>mercy.

>>>Shortly after this experience I was plunged into even greater horror.
>>>Some of our weak and sickly prisoners were being marched off by French
>>>soldiers to their camp. The truck we were on first passed another
>>>truck picking up bodies along the side of the road, and then came up
>>>behind a slowly moving column of men. Temporarily we slowed down and
>>>remained behind, perhaps because the driver was as shocked as I was.
>>>The French soldiers were apparently incensed at the poor condition of
>>>our prisoners, not only for labor but for marching to another camp.
>>>Whenever a prisoner staggered or dropped back, the French clubbed him
>>>to death and then dragged him to the side of the road. For many, this
>>>quick death might have been preferable to their prolonged suffering.
>>>Even gas would have been more merciful than our murder by neglect in
>>>our slow 'killing fields'.

>>>When I saw the German women held in a separate enclosure, I asked why
>>>we were keeping them. I was told they were "camp followers", selected
>>>as breeding stock for the S.S. to create a super-race. We provided
>>>them with tents but they were extremely hungry. I spoke to some and
>>>must say they were still spirited and attractive. However, I believe I
>>>was objective enough when I told all concerned that I didn't think
>>>they deserved our treatment.

>>>As an interpreter, I was able to prevent some particularly unfortunate
>>>arrests. One somewhat amusing incident occurred during a pre-dawn raid
>>>we conducted on a town to discover Nazis or arms. An old farmer was
>>>being dragged away by some soldiers. I was told he had a "fancy Nazi
>>>medal", which they showed to me. Fortunately, I had a chart
>>>identifying such medals. He had been awarded it for having five or
>>>more children! Perhaps his wife was somewhat relieved to get him "off
>>>her back", but I didn't think one of our 'death camps' was a fair
>>>punishment for his contribution to Germany. The soldiers agreed and
>>>released him to continue his "dirty work".

>>>Famine was spreading amongst German civilians also. It was a common
>>>sight to see German women up to their elbows in our garbage cans
>>>looking for something edible -- that is, when they weren't chased
>>>away.

>>>When I interviewed mayors of small towns and villages, I was told
>>>their supply of food had been taken away by "displaced persons"
>>>(foreigners who had worked in Germany), who packed the food on trucks
>>>and drove away. When I reported this, the response was a shrug or an
>>>expression of helplessness.

>>>Although the Red Cross coffee and doughnut stands were available
>>>everywhere for us, I never saw any Red Cross in the prison camps or
>>>helping the civilians. While my girlfriend had all the "contraband"
>>>doughnuts she could eat, most Germans had to share their meager hidden
>>>stores and wait until the next harvest.

>>>This hunger undoubtedly made many German women more "available", but,
>>>despite this, rape was incredibly prevalent and often accompanied by
>>>additional violence. I particularly remember a charming eighteen year
>>>old girl who had several unsuccessful suitors and was "just friends"
>>>with me, who had the side of her face smashed with a rifle butt and
>>>was then raped by two G.I.s. The casual shooting of German civilians
>>>also continued, usually by drunken soldiers who would tell of this as
>>>something amusing. All too many G.I.s gave the impression they were
>>>1ike animals released from cages, free to do what they liked because
>>>they were dealing with yet a lower species of animal, a reverse
>>>racism, inflamed by our propaganda. However, even the French
>>>complained to me that our rape and drunken destructive behavior in
>>>their country was excessive. When we had arrived in Le Havre, we had
>>>been given booklets instructing us that the Germans had maintained a
>>>high standard of behavior with French civilians who were peaceful, and
>>>that we should do the same. In this we failed miserably.

>>>So what? we might still say. The enemies' atrocities were worse than
>>>ours. Certainly my experiences were only of the last phases of the
>>>war, when we were already clearly the victors. The Nazi opportunity
>>>for atrocities had faded and ours was unleashed. But we might have
>>>learned the simple lesson that two wrongs do not make a right. Perhaps
>>>we might even have broken the cycle of vengeful retaliation and
>>>unbridled hatred, fed by racism, that has plagued human history and
>>>blighted human potential all to long. Instead, we committed our own
>>>atrocities and now are clinging to a cover-up. That is why I am
>>>speaking out now, forty-five years after the crime. We can never
>>>prevent individual war crimes, but we can, if enough of us speak out,
>>>influence government policy. We can reject government propaganda that
>>>depicts our enemies as subhuman and encourages the kinds of outrages I
>>>witnessed. We can protest the bombing of civilian targets, which still
>>>goes on today. (I will never forget the sickly sweet smell of rotting
>>>human flesh rising from the shattered remains of the cities and towns
>>>I entered.) And we can refuse ever to condone our government' s murder
>>>of unarmed and defeated prisoners of war.

>>>I realized it's difficult to admit witnessing a crime of this
>>>magnitude, especially if implicated oneself. Even G.I .s sympathetic
>>>to the victims told me they were afraid to oppose so massive a policy
>>>that would surely seek to cover its tracks. I never heard this
>>>directly from an officer, but it was the belief of the rank-and-file
>>>G.I.s I spoke to that we were not to "talk" because, first, no one
>>>would believe us, and second, we would surely get into trouble. They
>>>all insisted it was better not to talk, and slowly I too realized it
>>>would be futile and dangerous. That is, until now, thanks to James
>>>Bacque and Pat Buchanan. This is not to say the danger has passed.
>>>Since I "spoke out" recently, my mailbox has been smashed and I have
>>>received threatening phone calls. But I believe it is worth the risk.
>>>Writing about these atrocities has been a catharsis of feelings
>>>suppressed too long, a liberation, and perhaps will remind other
>>>witnesses and citizens -that "the truth shall make us free, have no
>>>fear." And, in any case, "the truth shall out".

>>>We may even learn a supreme lesson from all this: Hate is
>>>self-destructive; only love can conquer and evolve all as One.

>>>Martin Brech
>>>(Adjunct Professor,
>>>Philosophy & Religion,
>>>Mercy College;
>>>Ex-G.I., Finally Free)
>>>Martin Brech, 187 Archer Road, Mahopac, NY 10541, Tel.: 914-628-6301

>>>James Bacque: Did the Allies starve millions of Germans?


>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article...


Ken McVay from Nizkor seems to actually deny that something like death
camps for Germans even existed or that Germans were deliberately
starved to death (Rheinwiesenlager).
http://www.rheinwiesenlager.de/

He himself is some kind of "Holocaust Denier", when it comes to German
suffering.
Note that Nizkor virtually doesn't mention any German suffering:
http://www.nizkor.org/other-sites/genocides.html
No mentioning of Germans at all. But after all, why bother about those
subhumans that according to Nizkor and related sources "gassed millions of
Jews"?!


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just  to
justify his existence to his ZYD masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZYD COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZYDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZYDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.



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22.1.2001

DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUDEN-MAFIA

Pardon, was wir genau sagen wollten ist DROGEN-, WAFFEN-,
PORNO-  und ABZOCKMAFIA.

Waehrend heutzutage rechte und braune Furze weltweit auf
den Titelseiten der Freimaurerpresse Schlagzeilen
machen, werden andere Meldungen - die tatsaechlich
veruebten Verbrechen der Globalisten und Juden betreffend,
bestenfalls als Minimeldung auf der Chronikseite gebracht.

Der freimaurerisch-judea kontrollierten Medien-Mafia ist
es z.B. gelungen einen blutigen Massenmord und
Massenvergewaltigung in Wichita (USA) an 5 Weisse
durch zwei Neger voellig zu unterdruecken.
Wird jedoch einem Nigger-Drogendealer in Deutschland
auch nur ein Haar gekruemmt, gibt es sofort in allen Medien
einen Proteststurm, Kerzerlmaersche  und alle irren
Gruen-Bolschewisten weltweit beginnen schlagartig mit
Lichterketten, Sanktionen und sonstigen Unsinn.

Ein weiteres Beispiel fuer die Macht der Juden-Mafia:
Aus Mexiko wurde heute gemeldet, dass der Ober-Pate
und einer der maechtigsten mexikanischen Drogenbosse,
der Jude Joaquin Guzman aus einem luxurioesen
"Hochsicherheitsgefaengnis" offenbar problemlos
entfliehen konnte. Wie das?

Der Direktor dieses noblen "Etablishments" und weitere
30 Waerter (!) wurden als mutmassliche Fluchthelfer
verhaftet.  Eine reine Alibihandlung, denn welcher
Richter oder Polizist dem seine Karriere, sein Leben
oder/und Familie lieb und wert ist, wird der
"Ueberredungskunst" oder/und Scheck eines Mosche
Rothschild oder Sharon Feigenbaum einen Widerstand
entgegensetzen?

Beweis: Die russisch-juedischen Pornohersteller in Moskau,
die zwar pro Forma verhaftet wurden, aber nach drei Tagen
schon wieder ihren Geschaeften im Internet nachgehen konnten.
In russischen Gefaengnissen gibt es offenbar kein koscheres
Essen und keine Synagoge. Das Verbrechen dieser
beschnittenen Ratten aus der ostjuedischen Khasarengosse:
Vor laufender Videokamera wurde Babys zu Tode vergewaltigt
und diese Videos mit horrenden Profiten verkauft, im
Internet angeboten und Teilausschnitte davon (dank
einem juedischen TV-Boss) im italienischen Fernsehen
gezeigt.  Eindeutig ein Fall fuer unsere Politiker
auch diese Art von Kulturbereicherung zu foerdern.

Da fast alle globalen Top-Verbrecher und Mafiosi
(egal ob Drogen, Menschen- oder Waffenschoieber oder
Pornokoenige) dieser Erde aus dem auserwaehlten Volk
Gottes stammen, besitzen sie zumeist auch eine israelische
Staatsbuergerschaft. Oder sie geben mitunter auch
vor, Jude zu sein.  Wohl wissend, dass Israel nicht
nur der groesste  antisemitische und rassistische
Killerstaat der Erde ist, sondern auch das Paradies
fuer jede Art von Dieben, Betrueger, Schwindler,
Spekulanten, Kriegsverbrecher,  Holocaust-Luegner
und auch Massenmoerder ist.

Grund genug fuer den oesterreichischen Bundeskanzler
Wolfgang Schuessel und Co. dieses dekadente Volk von
Ganoven und  Banditen und ihre menschenrechtswidrigen
Verbrechen (3 Millionen Semiten aus ihrer Heimat vertrieben,
hunderte Tote in wenigen Monaten) mit weiteren
Milliardenbetraegen zu finanzieren. Die Ausbeute
des von "Jahwe auserwaehlten Volk" fuer nur 12 Monate
Erpressung kann sich sehen lassen: 15 Mrd. AS die man
dem Volk und der Wirtschaft frech aus der Tasche stiehlt.

Sei's wie sei, Oesterreich ist nicht das einizige Opfer
dieser Parasiten, denn auch andere Laender werden von
diesen genetisch kaputten Blutegeln zu Kasse gebeten -
und von der Presse tunlichst verheimlicht.

Mit rund 100 Millionen US$ wird auch Frankreich zur
Kasse gebeten. Geld bekommen auch jene Nachkommen
und Kinder die nur GLAUBEN, dass ihrer Eltern ein Konto
bei einer Bank oder Versicherung hatten. Beweisen
muessen sie als Juden nichts.

Mit rund 4,4 Milliarden wird Deutschland zur Kasse
gebeten. Oder hat man das schon wieder vergessen?
Das inkludiert selbstverstaendlich nicht die laufenden
Geschenke wie zum Beispiel hochmoderne Atom U-Boote.
(damit die Israelis weltweit unbemerkt ihre Bio-Chemischen
voelkervernichtenden Waffen abfeuern koennen)

Und diese Summen inkludieren aber keine Sonderleistungen
wie  bezahlte Urlaubsreisen in Luxushotels, Schulen, Synagogen,
und die Pflege der juedischen Friedhoefe bzw.
"Holocaustdenkmaeler" (in Berlin alleine fast 500 und
weltweit werden es sicher bei 10.000 sein).

Und diese Liste des Horrors laesst sich fast endlos fortsetzen.
Nur von den Eskimos am Nordpol, den Buschnegern
Zentralafrikas oder den Kannibalen Borneos wurden
noch keine "Wiedergutmachungen" und "Entschuldigungen"
(spricht Kniefall und Fuesse kuessen) verlangt. Kein Land
der Welt kann heute mehr sicher sein, nicht in den Zangengriff
dieser beschnittenen Raubritter zu gelangen.

Man schaetzt, 300-400 Milliarden US$ an Mafia-Schutzgelder
wurden seit 1948 mit Hilfe der Holocaust-Keule
und Gaskammerschwindel an die Juden bezahlt. Und dieser
Betrag ist sicher nicht zu hoch gegriffen. Wieviele Milliarden
davon allerdings in den Aufbau und Erhalt des organisierten
Verbrechens geflossen sind, kann nur geschaetzt werden.



I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
I like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, PAMYAT, HAMAS or Aryan Nations,etc.

CALL late nights best, or even VISIT me:
Dr Laurence B. Shiff (Nazihunter)
327 Cortleigh Boulevard
Toronto, Ontario M5N 1R2 CA
Tel: 416-785-4574.

alternate

KASPU COM
2788 Bathurst St.
Toronto, Ontario m6b3a3 CA
Tel: 416-789-5691
(FAX) 416-789-5691
E-Mail: shiff@kaspu.com


My associate in the USA, who is like me, is:
Donald Ray Ellis
aka Pat Blakely/RevWhite/Mike Kalvatis/Rob Stewart ET AL
108 E. Victory Street
Star City, Arkansas 71667
Tel: (870) 628-1437
Email: voiceofreason@blakely.harrogate.net


Posted courtesy of : Paul Kneisel, who likes late
night discussions, even from Christian Identity,
Pamyat, Aryan Nations, Stormfront, HAMAS, etc.
I am together with McVay and L.Schiff,
regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers to his homosexuals escorts office:
1-250-616-9431
Or, VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?

http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg


Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to work:(780)492-0473


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the website for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Or, other useful websites include:
National Alliance - www.natvan.com
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
is a revolutionary act."
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org


As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay. May he rot in hell.



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On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:55:20 GMT, in can.politics "torresD"
 wrote:

GERMAN JEWISH COUNCIL PRESIDENT CHARLOTTE KNOBLOCH
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,434508,00.html
SPIEGEL ONLINE:

When you took office you said one of the main focuses of your work
would be the struggle against right-wing extremism.

Has the conflict in the Middle East worsened anti-Semitic
attitudes in Germany?

Knobloch: It has, unfortunately.

I see an absolutely hostile attitude towards Jews and Israel.

Signs that read "Israel -- Child Murderers" are being carried through the
streets at demonstrations here, for example.

The police don't confiscate these placards.

Persons that deal with the issue only marginally,
or not at all, are influenced negatively.

That's the basis of this hostile attitude.

You can find it everywhere.

We're currently organizing a fundraising concert, for example,
and even there we get negative, anti-Semitic mail.

No distinctions are made.

We're sucked into the current Middle East conflict one hundred percent,
as Jewish citizens in Germany.

And those politicians who latch onto this hostile mood with carefully
prepared statements are of course doing better than ever.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Who do you mean?

Knobloch:

Oskar Lafontaine, the leader of the Left Party, for example.

Left Party parliamentarians aren't particularly objective in their
evaluation of the catastrophe in the Middle East.

I'm also thinking of Heidemarie Wieczorek-Zeul, the Minister of Economic 
Aid and Development and member of the Social Democrat Party (SPD).

These people encourage the hostile mood against Jews.

I've never experienced anything quite like this.

It's on a new level.

This hostile mood is now more noticeable in the German public
than it used to be.

It's infiltrated every group and every level of society.

I hope this development can be reversed by a joint effort on
the part of all democratic forces.

Otherwise all the positive images I have about Germany would be put
into question.

I unpacked my suitcase in this country.
And I don't want to have to repack it.

Interview conducted by Sebastian Fischer and Claus Christian Malzahn.


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.


~~



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This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,so
that more and more people around the world will come to know the truth
about the ZYD COLLABORATION with nazis.
It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zyd lies!!

More and more truth is coming out, about the perfidious ZYD
COLLABORATION with the nazis!!

Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
ZYDS, to consider demanding repayment?


>>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
>>>> wrote:

It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!

>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion
>> wrote:

>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS
with
>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH made
>>public.

>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public their
>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.

>>It was not only the notorious KASTNER CASE!!

>>>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:51:02 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
>>> wrote:
>>>Newsgroups:soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.european,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.germany
>>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>September 2004, page 86
>>>Book Review
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List:$22; AET:
>>>$15.
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It's no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to
advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly
few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received
little
>>>coverage in the American media.

>>>Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has compiled a wide variety of
letters,
>>>statements, articles, and judgements?some of which appeared in his
>>>earlier  book?by a broad array of activists and authors, that
>>>documents Zionist cooperration with the Nazis.

>>>On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case?made in many Zionists? own words?that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the
>>>Zionist plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and
>>>creating a new Jewish nation.

>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the
Nazis.

>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response.

>>>These latter do indicate levels of collaboration between Zionists
and
>>>fascists, both the Nazis in Germany, and those in Mussolini's
Italy.
>>>Brenner's brief explanatory notes at the beginning of each document
>>>are helpful, as are the glossary and index.

>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the
part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort,
however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some
>>>Zionists eschewed the boycott against Hitler?s Germany, for
instance, is
>>>that they had a financial deal?Ha'avara?with Germany allowing Jews
to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less
of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before.
>>>Moreover, the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of
'nationality'
>>>versus citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are
based on
>>>the same concept.

>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term Holocaust
>>>guilt, frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who
>>>made the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to
>>>place Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives
of
>>>their threatened European brethren.

>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on
>>>Feb. 18, 1943:

>>>And when some asked me: Can't you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora? I said:
>>>?No!  And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I'm guilty, for the
fact
>>>that we don't give ourselves completely to rescue actions.(p. 211)

>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically
>>>align themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally
saw
>>>race as an important dividing line?and, moreover, were determined
to
>>>keep it that way.

>>>From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,'assimilation' of Jews
>>>into the societies in which they lived was not an acceptable
option.
>>>Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on a national level,
not
>>>a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, 'It is impossible for a
man
>>>to become assimilated with people whose blood is different from his
>>>own'
>>>(p. 10); in Einstein?s words, ?Palestine is first and foremost not
a
>>>refuge for East European Jews, but the incarnation of a reawakening
>>>sense of national solidarity? (p. 29).

>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the STERN  GANG, , wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.

>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would
be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).

>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference?and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy?were practiced around the world.

>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the
>>>Zionist cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of
this
>>>book,another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than
savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers,
in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after
the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.

>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to
>>>bring information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to
U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives 'both Palestinian
>>>and Israeli' in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it
>>>difficult not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem
to wear
>>>when examining Zionism.


# 5                           The Kastner Case
ZHID  KOLABORACI WITH EICHMANN & NAZIS!!
Extracted from a pamphlet issued by BAZO-PS - 1981

Introduction

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is
that involving Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
Those who have, are generally under the impression that
there is some "controversy" about negotiations he undertook
for "the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
equipment," but that he was "fully rehabilitated" by the
Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that -
I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
deeds of the war.

This small group of quislings knew what was happening to
their brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their
own lives with the price of silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke
for all Jews in Hungary.
While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is
still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me
when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian
Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned
to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...
Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, "I know of your plans;
spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet."

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...
(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the "Eichmann Confessions"
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's
directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
political officials in Budapest...Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep order in the
collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
camps, the price...was not too high for me.

"...We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

"Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for
a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune...

"As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
immensely idealistic Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner
would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
blood to achieve his political goal...
'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have
this group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great
service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner."
(Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
do not relate merely to "the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment."

Are the accusations against Kastner true?
According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
Israeli Government did rather more  than demand that his
views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
-88-
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted by Robert E. Nordlander
nord@powernetonline.com


Subject: Kastner Case=ZHID KOLLABORACI WITH NAZIS!!

From: Elias Davidsson (edavid@itn.is)
Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
Date: 1997/07/12

The Kastner Case

Introduction

Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of
all and will show that on this question 'The documentation available
is overwhelming and its message is thundering", just as Palestine
Speaks claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly
the most 'extreme' and 'offensive' accusations of Nazi-Zionist
collaboration broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first,
and in greater detail.

Since the 'Kastner case' is the subject of most of the broadcasts
concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some
books in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its 
case appears strongest, and on the points to which it has given
greatest emphasis,we hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that
things are not quite what they may have appeared before this inquiry
began.

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
'controversy' about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of
Jewish lives for money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully
ehabilitated' by the Supreme Court of Israel.

That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
3CR for anti-semitism.

It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
what Kastner was accused of.

This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works
dealing with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart
>from 3CR, the suppression of information has been so complete, that
even an expert like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on
the matter, has been unable to find out what it is all about.

The Accusations
----------------
Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives
with the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the
council which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner
number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is still on my arm - I compiled
careful statistics of the exterminations...I took these terrible
statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give
Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned to
send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...Kastner went to
Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
choice and I shall keep quiet.'

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there.

Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany
collapsed,to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit.
pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest...Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let
a few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
Palestine.
It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoked
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...

As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
oal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
group here'.

And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so
Jews...
That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid,
p.26ö-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is
the term that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had
known what the accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR
saying 'In these circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious
and absurd'.

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

The Verdict
------------
Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on
3CR, has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to
the Jewish community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to
promote racism, in bad taste and contrary to common sense.

It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information
can backfire on the censors themselves.

Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:

"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.

The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.
They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.

The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.

Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.

The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.

Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their
community n their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.

The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into oollaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.

The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
expensively if honorably guided.

Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.

The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.

The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs.

It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.

The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?

The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
annihilation.

The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.
Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.

When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the
majority of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic
element in the agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement
fixed the division of the nation into two unequal camps: a small
fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on
the one hand, and the great majority of Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis
designated for death, on the other hand.
An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.

One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.

Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated
quickly to another."

(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
Generalv. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22,
1955).

Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

"From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.

This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.

Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler". (ibid)

Judge Halevi continues:

"Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher's hehalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.

The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.

The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.

The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher'.

It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal.
Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
n Nuremberg.

Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements." (ibid)

Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproven accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge
also ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred
Israeli pounds as court costs.

In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
matter.

If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.

But the story does not end there.

The Reaction
-------------
Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
now it was Kastner's accuser who was on trial.

The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:

"All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June
1955)

In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, the leading political
journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:

"Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
defended by the Israeli Government..." (14 July 1955).

*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
"The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
defense." (23 June 1955)

But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.

As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
"If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
disclose." (23 June 1955)

Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.

As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel's largest evening newspaper,
*Ma'ariv*:
"What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
of our history!

At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an
appeal filed.
What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24
June 1955)

At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly:  "The man Kastner does not stand
here as a private individual. He was a recognized representative,
official or non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in
Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court
to defend the representative of our national institutions." (Hecht, p.
268)

The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.

So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.

The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully
rehabilitated'.

The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
court - that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
'fully rehabilitated'.

The Majority Judgement
-------------------------
But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner's actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
'collaboration'.

In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
totally missing the point.

Kastner's actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.

The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
Kastner.
They JOINED him.

Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:

"...What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, 'The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree'.
This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness
about the Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary,
without any ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner
aide in Budapest, protocol 465).

I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this...is a consideration which
one  can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.
Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale...And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose the truth to many though it is his best
opinion that this way everybody will perish. I think that the answer
is clear. What good will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to
perish?...As I said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings
of the learned President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi)
but it seems to me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as
of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view...

In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn and did not cry out of the
coming danger....

Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war." (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)

n other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did -
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different train for Palestine.

The Minority Judgement
--------------------------
It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority
judgement of S>>>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General
therefore shrinks into Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:

"I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others....

an opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few - therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.'

I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able to save their lives by local, partial,
specific or indirect rescue operations like local revolts, resistance,
escapes, hidings, concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of
documents, ransom money, bribery, etc - and when this is the case and
when one deals with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human
being, a mortal, reject with complete certainty and with an extreme
'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he
examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead
of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the last hope
of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith as his
defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith...

If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the news about the fate of the ghetto
inmates in good faith and only as a result of his complete despairing
of the chances of escaping or resisting the Germans. You can not claim
at the same time helplessness and activity.
Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...

We can sum up with three facts:
A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - 'Second Warsaw'
- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to
Kastner from the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had
additional proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and
misleading tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first
moment of occupation.

B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder.
This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
evidence for this.

C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his
eyes...I couldn't base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive light on the whole affair and serves
as a dozen proofs of our conclusion." (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe
Silberg, 1957)

Conclusion
-----------
If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.

One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the
'dragging in of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi
relationships'.

But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.

The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
being 'dragged in' to discredit an opponent.

It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.

Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.

Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds
of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that
they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for
tickets on the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.

As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it,
'now dead'.

Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was delivered. Eckstein was
not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
secret service.
(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another 'fantastic allegation' no doubt; but
admitted in court during the murder trial).

Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
dispute. Apart from countering Israel's cynical use of the holocaust
as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many
people have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is
whether, if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many
more could have been saved, and whether this is not an essential
future consideration, at least as an insurance policy.

The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the
Nazis and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had
not existed.
Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
insurance policy, is like using petrol for a fire extinguisher.

Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.

We shall go on to prove this in detail.
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Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:35:10 -0700, Ernst Zundholtz
 wrote:

Looks like the filthy ZHIDS just do not like this well-documented
expose of their holohoax, and the fact that it documents 52 cases of
ZHID COLLABORATION WITH THE NAZIS!!

>>On 28 Nov 2004 10:59:36 -0800, heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net
>>(HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote:

This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,
so that more and more people around the world will come to know the
truth about the ZHID COLLABORATION with nazis.
It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zhid lies!!

More and more truth is coming out, about the perfidious ZHID
COLLABORATION with the nazis!!

Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
ZHIDS, to consider demanding repayment?


>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
>>> wrote:

It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!

>>>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion
>> wrote:

>>>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS
with
>>>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH
made
>>>>public.

>>>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public
their
>>>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.

>>>>It was not only the notorious KASTNER CASE!!

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Posted by:
Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
John Bryant

TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.


Posted by: 
Patrick Lee Humphrey
7500 Bellerive #1807
Houston, Texas 77036-3040
1-713-266-7764

Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with
Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
Henry 
CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

And also: George Firestone: "George" ,
and davejoll@ihug.co.nz.

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.




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Unfortunately, too true.
Always, the ZYDS do their best to foment wars, and other miseries, everywhere
in the world, just to increase their power and the Jew World Order.

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:19:19 -0700, FredBurg 
wrote:

>Those who have failed to learn from the past 2000 years of history, will be
>doomed to repeat history.
>
>With now an extra 51 well documented proven cases of ZHID  COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS, besides notorious KASTNER case,  one MUST question the
>HOLOHOAX figures!!
>
>Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a nazi GESTAPO
>COLLABORATOR!!
>
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:11:30 -0700, Ken Levi  wrote:
>
>>For the past 2000 years, the world has suffered because of the cursed
>>Christkiller ZHIDS.
>
>>Not just the Kollaboraci of the ZHIDS with the nazis.
>
>
>>On 27 Sep 2004 16:03:09 -0000, PhilMathews 
>>wrote:
>
>>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>
>>>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG--
>>>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>>>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>>>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>>>have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn."
>>>I've seen photos of naked children, ... and fail to see the
>>>harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
>>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>>     Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>>>                alone with your children?
>
>
>>>From: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (JohannSebastianBott)
>>>Subject: Re:ZHID ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI = ZYDOWSKY KOLABORANCI!!!
>>>Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.wroclaw
>>>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>
>>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>> wrote:
>
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish,
>> > Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate Professor of Sociology
>> > and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of
>> > Germans during occupation of Poland.  The only
>> > reason for this question at this time seems to be
>> > his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provocatively,
>> > Dr. Ilicki asks:
>> > 1) who were the members of the
>> > police, volunteers or draftees?,
>> > 2) what was their social status?
>> > 3) what happened to them after the war?
>> > Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not
>> > know the answers.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested
>> > in Pinsk the hometown of his parents and allegedly
>> > the site of the burial of his grandparents and over
>> > 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitte
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with
>> > Yad Vashem.  However, young (about 40 years old)
>> > Julian pretends disintrest, because he is afraid that
>> > exhumations might start at the alleged burial site
>> > and will find no skeletons as same happened last
>> > year at nearby Mariompole, presently in Lithuania.
>
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police
>> > during German occupation was  dramatically reduced
>> > in numbers and pre-war policemen were forced to
>> > serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,and when armed never
>> > given more than five bullets for their long rifles.
>> > Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write
>> > a report for what target each bullet was used
>> > and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>
>>>>>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.
>
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in
>> > the Third Reich, in which service was completely
>> > voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The
>> > social background of these Jewish collaborators
>> > according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
>> > with post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree,
>> > 20% with elementary education.  These are data
>> > from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the
>> > requirement was that EACH Jewish policeman
>> > has at least matura (two years of college)
>> > see page 489 of his book.  In practice, the
>> > Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German
>> > occupation immediately were fired from
>> > their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because
>> > the schools were closed.
>
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep
>> your life a little longer or die now!
>
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted.
>> Under Stalin they ran to enlist hoping to avoid being
>> killed in the next "relocation"!
>
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground,
>> > unemployed Jewish intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>
>> > Some of it was really gruesome as you remember
>> > from our previous description of the Feb. 1942
>> > execution on Rybna Street market place in Lodz.
>> > German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown
>> > endlessly in Wiesenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands
>> > of Jews standing and watching behind three
>> > uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered
>> > pistols facing Jewish crowd and about to be hanged
>> > women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> > -------------
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>
>> Herman
>
>First,let us kill all the lawyers! - W.Shakespeare
>First, we get rid of all the politicians! - Mao Tse Dung
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!! Me
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also:panPiotrGlownia - panPiotrGlownia@swipnet.se
>SINCE I LIKE TO RECEIVE LOTS OF EMAILS, FEEL FREE TO SUBSCRIBE ME TO
>ALL KINDS OF MAILLISTS, ESPECIALLY FOR SEX, AND HOMOSEXUALS.
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.



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On 27 Nov 2005 16:19:47 -0800, "Ariadne" wrote:
>Jason P wrote:
>> By Paula Amann

>> Washington Jewish Week/Jewsweek - 2001

>> http://www.jewsweek.com/society/059.htm

>> They come to Israel from the Ukraine, Russia, and Moldova looking for
>> freedom. Instead they are sold as sex slaves. And you thought Israel
>> was holy.

>> Jewsweek.com | Their names are Natalya, Oxana or Svetlana. They come to
>> Israel, as immigrants do, for a better life. But their dreams of
>> working as a waitress, nurse, or au pair turn nightmarish upon their
>> arrival.

>> Their fellow countryman who met them at the airport, speaking the
>> language of home, takes them to a locked apartment with barred windows
>> and a phone that only takes incoming calls, where they are forced to
>> provide sexual services to strangers.

>> Those who rebel risk being raped, beaten, or starved. Even those who
>> knew they were going into prostitution are shocked by the stark
>> conditions, the pay of roughly 20 shekalim ($5) a day or less for their
>> labor.

>> This disturbing story unfolds all too often at the hotline for Migrant
>> Workers, a Tel Aviv agency founded in 1998 to protect the human rights
>> of foreign workers, victims of sex trafficking among them. The hotline
>> takes as its motto the familiar line from Exodus 22:20: "You shall not
>> wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of
>> Egypt."

>> Agency director and co-founder Sigal Rozen, along with the group's
>> counsel, Nomi Levenkron, were in Washington, D.C., last week to give a
>> lecture at the Johns Hopkins Nitze School of Advanced International
>> Studies, to network and to speak with supporters. Among them are the
>> New Israel Fund, which has given the hotline a total of $19,000 during
>> the past year and a half.

>> In an interview, Rozen called sex trafficking an "unorganized crime,"
>> based largely on personal networks of immigrants from the Ukraine,
>> Russia, and Moldova.

>> "... "It's easier being a trafficker than being a plumber ..."   --Nomi
>> Levenkron

>> Those three countries alone accounted for 91 percent of the 474 women
>> arrested in brothels and deported from Israel in 2000, according to
>> figures compiled by hotline volunteers during visits to the Neveh
>> Tirzah women's prison.

>> These statistics represent only a fraction of the problem. Police
>> spokespersons have set the number of women brought into the country to
>> work in the sex industry at 2,000-3,000 annually, the number of
>> brothels at 250, Rozen said.

>> "It's Misha that knows Sasha that knows Vladimir," added Levenkron,
>> noting the economic incentive to be a pimp or work with one. "It's
>> easier being a trafficker than being a plumber."

>> One day she got a phone call from a rape crisis center where a woman
>> pleaded to be arrested and deported.

>> This young Moldovian had twice tried to escape her pimp and at 18, was
>> burned out on prostitution and just wanted to go home.

>> "She's so young and sweet," reflected Levenkron. "She came to Israel to
>> be a waitress."

>> A year ago this month, Israel passed the Law Against Trafficking Women.
>> Before that time, other laws existed against soliciting, pimping, and
>> running brothels.

>> Yet hotline staff point out that few pimps involved in trafficking ever
>> face a judge, with the majority of prostitutes deported without ever
>> facing a trial that might involve their testimony against their pimps.
>> Out of 459 women deported in 1998, only 35 cases went to trial; out of
>> 253 in 1999, a scant five ended up in the courtroom.

>> Judicial indifference is compounded by police complicity, Levenkron
>> argued.

>> The 18-year-old Moldovian, it turned out, had at one point in her
>> misadventures, found herself in a Tel Aviv police station where some of
>> the officers, who were her clients, recognized her and moved to call
>> her pimp.

>> Overhearing their plans, the woman fled and moved in with a
>> client-turned-boyfriend.

>> But somehow the pimp found her again, threatened the boyfriend. The
>> young woman, with no place to go, went back to the brothel. Now the
>> case hangs in the courts, where Levenkron has faint hopes for a
>> positive outcome.

>> The police role in such trafficking ranges from casual to highly
>> serious, she alleged.

>> "There are police who just come as clients, those who get special
>> discounts because of their good relationships with the owner of the
>> place and those that inform the owner about police operations,"
>> explained Levenkron.

>> One young Beersheva prostitute told the attorney she was forced to work
>> seven days a week unless a police raid was expected.

>> Widespread fear of violence from pimps has muted the public outcry, say
>> hotline staff. When Levenkron filed a suit on behalf of a
>> Beersheva-based woman, a 20-year-old Moldovian who had survived six
>> pimps and multiple rapes, several of the lawyer's friends came to her
>> home to bid her a final farewell, in anticipation of her imminent
>> death, she said.

>> INTERNATIONAL PROBLEM

>> Worldwide, trafficking in persons for domestic service, forced labor,
>> and prostitution ranks third after drugs and guns among the activities
>> of international crime, according to a congressional service report
>> released May 10, 2000. For comparison, about 50,000 people are brought
>> to the United States annually, the report stated.

>> The rise in trafficking seen over the 1990s was fueled by feeble
>> economies in source countries, such as the former Soviet Union and
>> Southeast Asia, along with weak penalties for traffickers, said a
>> government official familiar with these issues.

>> Last October, the United States passed its own law addressing this
>> problem, the Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act, which
>> calls on the State Department to report annually on the scope of
>> trafficking in various countries and measures taken to combat it. The
>> report was due for release on June 1, but its publication has been
>> delayed.

>> In Israel today, official policy on trafficking is to arrest and deport
>> foreign sex workers. The women are held for an average of 30 days under
>> crowded and sometimes harsh conditions, longer if they testify in court
>> against their pimps, according to hotline data.

>> Rozen and Levenkron take issue with this approach. "Deporting women
>> doesn't make things better," said Levenkron. "I'm tired of shouting
>> this all over Israel so I've come here [to the United States] to shout
>> about it."

>> Rozen contends that a one-year work permit in specified fields such as
>> home health care or child care, before their return home, would put the
>> former prostitutes in a stronger position to take care of themselves.

>> Gruesome albeit unsubstantiated stories abound, she says, about revenge
>> attacks on returning women and their families by the original
>> trafficker in the home country.

>> A nest egg from a year's legitimate work, Rozen suggests, would allow
>> victims to re-establish themselves in a new community and stay out of
>> the clutches of traffickers in the future.

>> Meanwhile, Levenkron is seeking professional back-up in her job
>> representing the victims of trafficking.

>> "I am the [hotline] legal department," laments Levenkron. "We need
>> lawyers and we need public awareness."



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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:45:36 GMT, "Godzilla Pimp"  wrote:

>From: http://snipurl.com/dzm1

>"German prosecutors have provoked outrage by ruling that the 1945 RAF 
>bombing of Dresden can legally be termed a "holocaust"."

>Well duh, it certainly was a holocaust if anything ever was (From Greek 
>holokaustos, burnt whole). They burned the whole city and everyone in it, 
>among other cities like Hamburg.

>Besides, the Jews were not burned to death but supposedly gassed, according 
>the final version of the fable (earlier ones included mass electrocution and 
>steaming). No evidence of gas chambers has ever been found, of course, 
>because they never existed. But the Jews have a talent for getting the dumb 
>"goyim" (cattle) to believe in such myths of murdered Jewish heroes, 
>Christianity being the most notable one.

>GP 



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The zionazi ZYDS do not like to be reminded of this!
The ZYDS even use their shabbas-goy McVay, to try and deflect
this TRUE information.

The Christkillers dislike being reminded about the ZYD COLLABORATEURS - such
as KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI AND WIESENTHAL!!

Evean fat Hermann Goering used jews in his home and in the Luftwaffe.

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 03:15:15 GMT, "amigo  cabal" 
wrote:

>Germans of Jewish Descent Who Served Hitler

>Possibly one of the most damning indictments of the allegations surrounding 
>the Holocaust and Nazi racial policy, come in an analysis of Germans of part 
>Jewish descent who were not only ardent Nazis but who faithfully served the 
>Nazi state at all levels in its military structure. For if the Nazi state 
>had, as is so often claimed, been hell bent on killing all traces of Jews, 
>it would never have allowed these individuals into positions which they did 
>hold - including army and air force generals.

>As discussed earlier, the Nazi racial laws made specific allowances for such 
>exceptions, and in fact actively sought to assimilate partial Jews into 
>German society, rather than have them re-congregate and form pure Jewish 
>gene pools once again. From the Nazi side, there was therefore no 
>contradiction between the assimilation of part Jews into German society, 
>although this policy is subject to considerable misunderstanding from 
>outside observers.

>As discussed in the book by American Military University professor Bryan 
>Mark Rigg in his book "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers, The Untold Story of Nazi 
>Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military" (University 
>Press of Kansas, Modern War Studies, May 2002) as many as 150,000 men of 
>part Jewish descent, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, 
>even generals and admirals, fought for Nazi Germany right to the bitter end.

>Almost all of these 150,000 men received special exemptions and declarations 
>of being "true Germans", many of these orders being signed by Adolf Hitler 
>himself, in a legal provision known as the Deutschblütigkeitserklärung (or 
>literally, the Declaration of German Blood).

>Above: photographs of Wehrmacht soldier and half-Jew Anton Mayer, typical of 
>those which accompanied an application for exemption under the Nazis' racial 
>laws.

>Above left: Quarter-Jew Admiral Bernhard Rogge wearing his Knight's Cross 
>(Ritterkreuz) with oak leaves. Above right: Adolf Hitler personally declared 
>Luftwaffe Field Marshall Erhard Milch (standing left) as  an Aryan, even 
>though Milch was half-Jewish. To Milch's right, General Wolfram von 
>Richthofen.

>Above right: Half-Jew Luftwaffe General Helmut Wilberg; above right: The 
>military service book of half-Jew Hermann Aub.

>Above left: World War One veteran and half-Jew, General Johannes Zukertort; 
>and above right: Half-Jew Commander Paul Ascher, Admiral Lütjens's first 
>staff officer on the battleship Bismarck.

>Above left: Half-Jew Colonel Walter H. Hollaender, decorated with the 
>Knight's Cross (Ritterkreuz) and German-Cross in Gold; and above right: 
>Half-Jew Wehrmacht soldier Werner Goldberg.

>"KNOWING THE NAZI STATE FOR WHAT IT WAS"

>The significance of these Germans of Jewish descent serving the Third Reich 
>has not been lost on the academic world: for example, the following quote 
>from historian John Keegan in his review of Bryan Mark Rigg's book:
>
>"The revelation that Germans of Jewish blood, knowing the Nazi regime for 
>what it was, served Hitler as uniformed members of his armed forces must 
>come as a profound shock. It will surprise even professional historians of 
>the Nazi years."  - John Keegan, author of The Face of Battle and The Second 
>World War,  (http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html)

>Keegan is of course, mistaken in the one sense, in that even a cursory study 
>of Nazi racial laws will have revealed that the Blood Protection Law of 1935 
>make specific allowances for such cases, and only the general hysteria and 
>ignorance of what the Nazis actually said and did has allowed people to be 
>"shocked" by the large number of part Jews serving the Reich.

>The phrase "knowing the Nazi regime for what it was" above by Keegan, is 
>however the real significant part: for indeed, if the Nazis had been mass 
>murdering, gassing and burning millions of Jews, it is extremely unlikely 
>that these 150,000 prominent Germans of part Jewish descent, would have 
>served the Reich at all, never mind having made specific application to be 
>granted full Aryan status - especially given that there were only 
>approximately 600,000 full blooded Jews in Nazi Germany.




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On Sun, 20 August 2006  08:54:37 -0700, Ken McVaySOBC
wrote:

This is more than true, if you read the book "OTHER LOSSES" by
Bacque!

It seems that those who were involved in this gencoide after the war,
tried hard to suppress news about their crimes, and many of the
victims died, fearing harm to their families if they told the truth.

Now, with more and more survivors willing to testify, including some
of the US military involved, the truth is being substantiated!


>>>On 13 Dec 2004 01:34:52 -0800, "Schorsch"  wrote:
>>>Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>> In article <1102789129.632939.294380@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>>> Schorsch  wrote:
>> >Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People
>> >Measures for the Devastation of the Heart of Europe

>>> Was there some point you wished to make?

>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article...

>>>Subject: Es Stimmt-Ike's Death Camps for Germans!!

>>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting 
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still 
>>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the 
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all 
>>>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>>Here is the latest.......

>>>From: cmsahe@excite.com (Carlos cmsahe)
>>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.europe
>>>Subject: "Ike"'s Death camps
>>>Date: 18 Feb 2002 07:43:47 -0800

>>>A U.S. PRISON GUARD AT ONE OF "IKE'S DEATH CAMPS"

>>>By Martin Brech

>>>FORTY-FIVE years ago, I witnessed an atrocity: the deliberate
>>>starvation of German POWs by our own army. History, written by the
>>>victors, suppressed all news of this atrocity until James Bacque, a
>>>Canadian author, published his brilliant expose, OTHER LOSSES. This
>>>book is a best seller in Canada, a sensation in Europe, yet is
>>>virtually unavailable (censored?) in the U.S. Our major booksellers
>>>told me their distributors are not handling it. When I prevailed upon
>>>a small, independent bookstore to order direct from Canada, the
>>>publisher told them they would be the only store in New York State to
>>>carry the book. This in 'the land of the free'?"

>>>Fortunately, Pat Buchanan called attention to OTHER LOSSES in his
>>>January 10, 1990 column. He wrote:

>>>"Conclusion: the U.S. Army killed ten times as many Germans in POW
>>>camps as we did on battlefields from Normandy to V.E. day. (German
>>>POWs) had their rations cut below survival level until they were dying
>>>at rates up to 30% of exposure, starvation and neglect... Red Cross
>>>food trains were turned back and U.S. food shipments sat on the
>>>docks...One French officer said the U.S. camps reminded him of Dachau
>>>and Buchenwald...The book blames Eisenhower. 'The German is a beast,'
>>>Ike had written...But that was not how the Canadians and British felt,
>>>who treated their prisoners justly...It was not the view of General
>>>Mark Clark, nor of Patton...Ignoring the book is not enough."
>>>Pat Buchanan's courageous column inspired me to help end the cover-up
>>>of the atrocity I had witnessed. I wrote letters to several newspapers
>>>which were, of necessity, short and incomplete. Now I would like to
>>>finally free more of my painful memories, hoping to be heard, so that
>>>this will help us to acknowledge our share in the "banality of evil",
>>>cleansing ourselves with the truth. Perhaps we as a nation may then
>>>put this behind us with some integrity and with some hope for
>>>redemption.

>>>In October 1944, at age eighteen, I was drafted into the army while a
>>>student at the NYS College of Forestry. Largely due to the "Battle of
>>>the Bulge", my training was cut short, my furlough cut in half, and I
>>>was then immediately sent overseas. Upon arrival in Le Havre, France,
>>>we were quickly loaded into boxcars and shipped to the front. By the
>>>time we reached it, I had developed mononucleosis severely enough to
>>>be sent to a hospital in Belgium.

>>>By the time I left the hospital, the unit I had trained with in
>>>Spartenburg, South Carolina was so deeply into Germany that I warn
>>>placed in a "repo depo" (a replacement depot) despite my protests. I
>>>then lost interest in which units I was assigned to because non-combat
>>>units were generally not respected. My separation qualification record
>>>states that I served mostly with the 14th Infantry Regiment, during
>>>which time I guarded prisoners of war and served as an interpreter.
>>>During my seventeen month stay in Germany, I was transferred to other
>>>outfits also.

>>>In late March or early April 1945, I was assigned to help guard a POW
>>>camp near Andernach along the Rhine. I had four years of high school
>>>German, so I was able to talk to the prisoners, although this was
>>>forbidden.

>>>Gradually, however, I was used as an interpreter and asked to ferret
>>>out the S.S. (I found none.)

>>>In Andernach, between 50,000 and 65,000 prisoners, ranging in age from
>>>very young teens to very old men, were crowded together in an open
>>>field surrounded by barbed wire. The women were kept in a separate
>>>enclosure which I did not see until later. The men I guarded had no
>>>tents or other shelter, no blankets and many had no coats. Inadequate
>>>numbers of slit trenches were provided for excrement, and so the men
>>>lived and slept in the mud and increasing filth during a cold, wet
>>>spring. Their misery from exposure alone was evident.

>>>It was even more shocking to see them eating grass, sometimes throwing
>>>it into a tin can containing a thin soup. They told me they did this
>>>hoping to ease their hunger pains. Soon their emaciation was evident.
>>>Dysentery raged and, too weak and crowded to reach the slit trenches,
>>>they were increasingly sleeping in excrement. I saw no sign of
>>>provision for water, so the thin soup was their food and water for the
>>>day. Some days there was bread, less than a slice each. Other days
>>>there was nothing.

>>>The sight of so many men desperate for food and water, sickening and
>>>dying before our eyes, is indescribable. Even now, I can only think of
>>>it momentarily.

>>>We had ample food and supplies that could have been shared more
>>>humanely, and we could have offered some medical assistance, but did
>>>nothing. Only the dead were quickly and efficiently taken care of:
>>>hauled away to mass graves.

>>>My outrage reached the point that I protested to my officers, but I
>>>was met with hostility or bland indifference. When pressed, they
>>>explained they were under strict orders from "higher up". No officer
>>>would dare to systematically do this to over 50,000 prisoners if he
>>>felt he was violating general policy and subject to court martial. The
>>>term "war criminal" was just beginning to come into fashion.

>>>Realizing my protests were useless, I asked a friend working in the
>>>kitchen if he could slip me some extra food for the prisoners. He too
>>>repeated that they were under strict orders to severely ration the
>>>prisoners' food, and that these orders came from "higher up". But he
>>>said they had more food than they knew what to do with and would sneak
>>>me some.

>>>When I threw this food over the barbed wires to the prisoners I was
>>>caught and threatened with imprisonment. I repeated the "offense", and
>>>one officer threatened to shoot me. I naturally assumed this was a
>>>bluff, but I began to have some doubts after I encountered a captain
>>>on a hill above the Rhine shooting down at a group of German civilian
>>>women with his .45 caliber pistol. When I asked, "Why?" he mumbled,
>>>"Target practice," and fired until his pistol was empty. I saw the
>>>women running for cover, but, at that distance, couldn't tell if any
>>>had been hit.

>>>This is when I more fully realized I was dealing with some
>>>cold-blooded killers filled with moralistic hatred. They considered
>>>the Germans sub-human and worthy of extermination; another expression
>>>of the downward spiral of racism. Articles in the G.I. newspaper,
>>>Stars & Stripes, played up the Nazi concentration camps, complete with
>>>photographs of emaciated bodies; this amplified our self-righteous
>>>cruelty and made it easier to imitate behavior we were supposed to
>>>oppose. Also, I think, soldiers not exposed to combat were trying to
>>>prove how tough they were by taking it out on the prisoners and
>>>civilians. At least, many combat soldiers told me later they would not
>>>have tolerated this, for they combined hatred with respect for a
>>>courageous enemy.

>>>The prisoners I spoke to were mostly simple farmers and workingmen, as
>>>ignorant, albeit nationalistic, as many of our own troops. I heard
>>>many versions of "my country, right or wrong, my country," which we
>>>still hear in our own country today.

>>>As time went on, many of them lapsed into a Zombie-like state of
>>>listlessness. Others, maddened by thirst, tried to escape in a
>>>desperate or suicidal fashion, running through open fields in broad
>>>daylight towards the Rhine to quench their thirst. They were mowed
>>>down.

>>>Some prisoners were extremely eager for cigarettes, saying they took
>>>the edge off their hunger. Accordingly, some enterprising G.I. "Yankee
>>>traders" were acquiring hordes of wrist watches and rings in exchange
>>>for handfuls of cigarettes or less. When I began throwing cartons of
>>>cigar-ettes to the prisoners to ruin this trade, I found myself
>>>threatened by rank-and-file G.I.s also. At least this taught me an
>>>indelible lesson: how wrong majorities and authorities can be.

>>>A bright spot in this gloomy picture came, oddly enough, one night
>>>when I was put on the "graveyard shift", from two to four A.M.
>>>Actually, there was a graveyard on the uphill side of this enclosure,
>>>not many yards away. My superiors had forgotten to give me a
>>>flashlight and I hadn't bothered to ask, being disgusted with the
>>>whole situation by that time. It was a fairly bright night and I soon
>>>became aware of a prisoner crawling under the wires to the graveyard.
>>>We were supposed to shoot escapees on sight, so I started to get up to
>>>warn him to get back. Suddenly I noticed another prisoner crawling
>>>from the graveyard back to the enclosure. They were risking their
>>>lives to get to the graveyard for something; I had to investigate.

>>>When I entered the gloom of this shrubby, tree-shaded cemetery, I
>>>never felt more vulnerable, but somehow curiosity kept me going.
>>>Despite my caution, I tripped over the legs of someone in a prone
>>>position. Whipping my rifle around while stumbling and trying to
>>>regain composure of mind and body, I soon was relieved I hadn't
>>>reflexively fired. The figure sat up, moving erratically. Gradually I
>>>could see the beautiful but terror-stricken face of a woman with a
>>>picnic basket nearby. German civilians were not allowed to feed, nor
>>>even come near, the prisoners, so I quickly assured her I approved of
>>>what she was doing, not to be afraid, and that I would leave the
>>>graveyard to get out of the way, telling no one.

>>>I left the graveyard as quickly as possible and sat down, leaning
>>>against a tree at the edge CF the cemetary to be inconspicuous and not
>>>frighten the prisoners. I imagined then, and often since, what it
>>>would be like to be a prisoner under those conditions and meet a
>>>beautiful woman with a picnic basket. I never saw her again, but I
>>>have never forgotten her face.

>>>While I watched, more prisoners crawled to and from the enclosure. I
>>>saw they were dragging food back to their comrades and could only
>>>admire their courage and devotion. As I walked back to my quarters at
>>>the end of my shift, a nightingale and I were singing -- both felt a
>>>touch of spring.

>>>(I originally did not intend to reveal the following incident, for it
>>>moves into a realm termed "mystical". However, for me, it was an
>>>extremely significant experience, changing my life, providing a light
>>>no darkness can extinguish. It must be told, hoping it will foster
>>>understanding.)

>>>On May 8, V.E. day, I decided to celebrate with some prisoners I was
>>>guarding who were baking bread, meager amounts of which the other
>>>prisoners occasionally received. This group had all the bread they
>>>could eat, and shared the jovial mood generated by the end of the war.
>>>We all thought we would be going home soon, a pathetic hope on their
>>>part. We were in what was to become the French zone, and I later
>>>witnessed the brutality of the French soldiers when we transferred our
>>>prisoners to them for their slave labor camps (see below).

>>>However, on this day we were happy.

>>>After chatting with them about the potentials of peace for the rest of
>>>our lives, I decided to risk a gesture of trust that objectively would
>>>seem foolish. I emptied my rifle and stood it in the corner. They
>>>tested me further by asking to play with it, and I agreed. Intuitively
>>>I felt I could rely on their sense of honor not to attack me, for they
>>>knew they too were being tested. This thoroughly 'broke the ice', and
>>>soon we were singing songs we taught each other or I had learned in
>>>high school German ("Du, du, liegst mir im Herzen"). Out of gratitude,
>>>they secretly baked a small sweet bread and insisted I take it,
>>>explaining it was the only possible gift they had left to offer.
>>>Expressing my gratitude with a lump in my throat, I put it in my tight
>>>"Eisenhower jacket" so I could sneak it back to my barracks. I later
>>>found an opportunity to eat it outside.

>>>Never had bread tasted more delicious, nor conveyed to me a deeper
>>>sense of communion while eating it. A wonderful feeling pervaded me,
>>>gently opening me to an intimation of the Oneness of all Being.
>>>Through those prisoners I sensed the ~cosmic presence of what has been
>>>called the Christ, Buddha-nature, or, perhaps most aptly, the
>>>Ineffable: cosmically present, but hidden and apparently separate,
>>>until revealed in the wholeness of the giving of the self. Even within
>>>the horror humans had created, I was taught a path to redemption may
>>>open by taking a first, tentative step in the direction of love,
>>>understanding and forgiveness. This above all the prisoners taught me:
>>>not only are we all potentially humane humans, there is divinity
>>>within us waiting for us to dissolve the defensive shield of ego. I
>>>was pleased to discover later the words of Matthew 25:34-46,
>>>expressing the potential within prisoners and all who are at our
>>>mercy.

>>>Shortly after this experience I was plunged into even greater horror.
>>>Some of our weak and sickly prisoners were being marched off by French
>>>soldiers to their camp. The truck we were on first passed another
>>>truck picking up bodies along the side of the road, and then came up
>>>behind a slowly moving column of men. Temporarily we slowed down and
>>>remained behind, perhaps because the driver was as shocked as I was.
>>>The French soldiers were apparently incensed at the poor condition of
>>>our prisoners, not only for labor but for marching to another camp.
>>>Whenever a prisoner staggered or dropped back, the French clubbed him
>>>to death and then dragged him to the side of the road. For many, this
>>>quick death might have been preferable to their prolonged suffering.
>>>Even gas would have been more merciful than our murder by neglect in
>>>our slow 'killing fields'.

>>>When I saw the German women held in a separate enclosure, I asked why
>>>we were keeping them. I was told they were "camp followers", selected
>>>as breeding stock for the S.S. to create a super-race. We provided
>>>them with tents but they were extremely hungry. I spoke to some and
>>>must say they were still spirited and attractive. However, I believe I
>>>was objective enough when I told all concerned that I didn't think
>>>they deserved our treatment.

>>>As an interpreter, I was able to prevent some particularly unfortunate
>>>arrests. One somewhat amusing incident occurred during a pre-dawn raid
>>>we conducted on a town to discover Nazis or arms. An old farmer was
>>>being dragged away by some soldiers. I was told he had a "fancy Nazi
>>>medal", which they showed to me. Fortunately, I had a chart
>>>identifying such medals. He had been awarded it for having five or
>>>more children! Perhaps his wife was somewhat relieved to get him "off
>>>her back", but I didn't think one of our 'death camps' was a fair
>>>punishment for his contribution to Germany. The soldiers agreed and
>>>released him to continue his "dirty work".

>>>Famine was spreading amongst German civilians also. It was a common
>>>sight to see German women up to their elbows in our garbage cans
>>>looking for something edible -- that is, when they weren't chased
>>>away.

>>>When I interviewed mayors of small towns and villages, I was told
>>>their supply of food had been taken away by "displaced persons"
>>>(foreigners who had worked in Germany), who packed the food on trucks
>>>and drove away. When I reported this, the response was a shrug or an
>>>expression of helplessness.

>>>Although the Red Cross coffee and doughnut stands were available
>>>everywhere for us, I never saw any Red Cross in the prison camps or
>>>helping the civilians. While my girlfriend had all the "contraband"
>>>doughnuts she could eat, most Germans had to share their meager hidden
>>>stores and wait until the next harvest.

>>>This hunger undoubtedly made many German women more "available", but,
>>>despite this, rape was incredibly prevalent and often accompanied by
>>>additional violence. I particularly remember a charming eighteen year
>>>old girl who had several unsuccessful suitors and was "just friends"
>>>with me, who had the side of her face smashed with a rifle butt and
>>>was then raped by two G.I.s. The casual shooting of German civilians
>>>also continued, usually by drunken soldiers who would tell of this as
>>>something amusing. All too many G.I.s gave the impression they were
>>>1ike animals released from cages, free to do what they liked because
>>>they were dealing with yet a lower species of animal, a reverse
>>>racism, inflamed by our propaganda. However, even the French
>>>complained to me that our rape and drunken destructive behavior in
>>>their country was excessive. When we had arrived in Le Havre, we had
>>>been given booklets instructing us that the Germans had maintained a
>>>high standard of behavior with French civilians who were peaceful, and
>>>that we should do the same. In this we failed miserably.

>>>So what? we might still say. The enemies' atrocities were worse than
>>>ours. Certainly my experiences were only of the last phases of the
>>>war, when we were already clearly the victors. The Nazi opportunity
>>>for atrocities had faded and ours was unleashed. But we might have
>>>learned the simple lesson that two wrongs do not make a right. Perhaps
>>>we might even have broken the cycle of vengeful retaliation and
>>>unbridled hatred, fed by racism, that has plagued human history and
>>>blighted human potential all to long. Instead, we committed our own
>>>atrocities and now are clinging to a cover-up. That is why I am
>>>speaking out now, forty-five years after the crime. We can never
>>>prevent individual war crimes, but we can, if enough of us speak out,
>>>influence government policy. We can reject government propaganda that
>>>depicts our enemies as subhuman and encourages the kinds of outrages I
>>>witnessed. We can protest the bombing of civilian targets, which still
>>>goes on today. (I will never forget the sickly sweet smell of rotting
>>>human flesh rising from the shattered remains of the cities and towns
>>>I entered.) And we can refuse ever to condone our government' s murder
>>>of unarmed and defeated prisoners of war.

>>>I realized it's difficult to admit witnessing a crime of this
>>>magnitude, especially if implicated oneself. Even G.I .s sympathetic
>>>to the victims told me they were afraid to oppose so massive a policy
>>>that would surely seek to cover its tracks. I never heard this
>>>directly from an officer, but it was the belief of the rank-and-file
>>>G.I.s I spoke to that we were not to "talk" because, first, no one
>>>would believe us, and second, we would surely get into trouble. They
>>>all insisted it was better not to talk, and slowly I too realized it
>>>would be futile and dangerous. That is, until now, thanks to James
>>>Bacque and Pat Buchanan. This is not to say the danger has passed.
>>>Since I "spoke out" recently, my mailbox has been smashed and I have
>>>received threatening phone calls. But I believe it is worth the risk.
>>>Writing about these atrocities has been a catharsis of feelings
>>>suppressed too long, a liberation, and perhaps will remind other
>>>witnesses and citizens -that "the truth shall make us free, have no
>>>fear." And, in any case, "the truth shall out".

>>>We may even learn a supreme lesson from all this: Hate is
>>>self-destructive; only love can conquer and evolve all as One.

>>>Martin Brech
>>>(Adjunct Professor,
>>>Philosophy & Religion,
>>>Mercy College;
>>>Ex-G.I., Finally Free)
>>>Martin Brech, 187 Archer Road, Mahopac, NY 10541, Tel.: 914-628-6301

>>>James Bacque: Did the Allies starve millions of Germans?


>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article...


Ken McVay from Nizkor seems to actually deny that something like death
camps for Germans even existed or that Germans were deliberately
starved to death (Rheinwiesenlager).
http://www.rheinwiesenlager.de/

He himself is some kind of "Holocaust Denier", when it comes to German
suffering.
Note that Nizkor virtually doesn't mention any German suffering:
http://www.nizkor.org/other-sites/genocides.html
No mentioning of Germans at all. But after all, why bother about those
subhumans that according to Nizkor and related sources "gassed millions of
Jews"?!


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just  to
justify his existence to his ZYD masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZYD COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZYDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZYDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.



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If she/it wasn't so repulsive, the pictures would be laughable...

On 3 Sep 2006 18:23:16 -0000, Ariadne@mac.hush.com
wrote:

>These are the best pictures I can find of me, LOL...
>Spouting Hot Air: http://tinyurl.com/apzwp

>Isn't 'Ariadne' the literal for (female) "spawn of Satan?"
>The "spawn" on her treadmill... http://tinyurl.com/qomwc

>This is one from when she was up on a midnight run to the
>refridgerator:
>http://tinyurl.com/rxum3

>Arid-Asshole at a ladies only Sumo Swim-Meet in Sheffield:
>http://tinyurl.com/p2zbq

>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)

>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)

>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>Reply-To: "George" ,
>or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
>Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.
>



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Subject: Wish To Dispose of Dealer Stock-$3 Million CV Stamp Collections-
Verkauf/Tausch $3 Millionen BiefmarkenSammlungen

We seek a qualified buyer of all our stock, for cash payable to our bankers.
Approximately $3 million CV, with main areas of interest:
GB
Canada
Germany
Commonwealth
France
USA
Australia
Austria
Switzerland
Israel
etc.

If interested, kindly advise.
The reason for sale, eyesight going blind. 
Ich verliere meine Sicht,und gehe Blinde.
Am NOT interested in consigning, or auction, only full cash sale.

We mean CASH for the buyer to take all, not cheques, drafts, or whatever.
May consider part swap for something significant, such as clear title cottage,
motorhome, or?
Am located in northern Canada.

Reply to: JoeBlough@operamail.com

P.S. Nigerian Scam and similar just disregarded as worthless.

Verkauf/Tausch $3 Millionen BiefmarkenSammlungen von 
Briefmarken Sammlungen Zu Verfügen

Wir suchen einen Käufer von unserer ganzen Aktie, für Bargeld das zahlbar 
ist zu unseren Bankiers. 
Ungefähr $3 Millionen KatalogwertF, mit Hauptgebieten 
des Interesses: 
GB 
Kanada 
Deutschland
Britische Commonwealth 
Frankreich 
Vereinigten Staaten
Australien 
Österreich 
Schweiz 
Israel usw.

Wenn interessiert, freundlich rät. 
Der Grund zum Verkauf, gehend Sehvermögen 
blendet. 
Ich verliere meine Sicht, und gehe Blinde. 
Interessiere mich NICHT für Schicken, oder Auktion, nur volles Bargeschäft.

Wir bedeuten, dass BARGELD für den Käufer alle nimmt, nicht Schecke, 
Kann teils Tausch für etwas bedeutsames, wie 
zum Beispiel klares Titellandhaus, motorhome, oder bedenken? 
Bin in nördlichem Kanada befunden. 
P. S. Nigerianisch Scam und ähnlich hat nur als 
wertlos nicht beachtet.





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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 22:10:08 +0100, "Steve"  wrote:

>Have you seen the photos of the mass slaughter of Germans that
>Eisenhower did very quietly *after* the war was over?
>
>If not, please look at the scanned images of the rarely seen article
>from a magazine in 1989:
>
>http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Eisenhower.html

On Sun, 20 August 2006  08:54:37 -0700, Ken McVaySOBC
wrote:

This is more than true, if you read the book "OTHER LOSSES" by
Bacque!

It seems that those who were involved in this gencoide after the war,
tried hard to suppress news about their crimes, and many of the
victims died, fearing harm to their families if they told the truth.

Now, with more and more survivors willing to testify, including some
of the US military involved, the truth is being substantiated!


>>>On 13 Dec 2004 01:34:52 -0800, "Schorsch"  wrote:
>>>Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>> In article <1102789129.632939.294380@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>>> Schorsch  wrote:
>> >Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People
>> >Measures for the Devastation of the Heart of Europe

>>> Was there some point you wished to make?

>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article...

>>>Subject: Es Stimmt-Ike's Death Camps for Germans!!

>>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting 
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still 
>>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the 
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all 
>>>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>>Here is the latest.......

>>>From: cmsahe@excite.com (Carlos cmsahe)
>>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.europe
>>>Subject: "Ike"'s Death camps
>>>Date: 18 Feb 2002 07:43:47 -0800

>>>A U.S. PRISON GUARD AT ONE OF "IKE'S DEATH CAMPS"

>>>By Martin Brech

>>>FORTY-FIVE years ago, I witnessed an atrocity: the deliberate
>>>starvation of German POWs by our own army. History, written by the
>>>victors, suppressed all news of this atrocity until James Bacque, a
>>>Canadian author, published his brilliant expose, OTHER LOSSES. This
>>>book is a best seller in Canada, a sensation in Europe, yet is
>>>virtually unavailable (censored?) in the U.S. Our major booksellers
>>>told me their distributors are not handling it. When I prevailed upon
>>>a small, independent bookstore to order direct from Canada, the
>>>publisher told them they would be the only store in New York State to
>>>carry the book. This in 'the land of the free'?"

>>>Fortunately, Pat Buchanan called attention to OTHER LOSSES in his
>>>January 10, 1990 column. He wrote:

>>>"Conclusion: the U.S. Army killed ten times as many Germans in POW
>>>camps as we did on battlefields from Normandy to V.E. day. (German
>>>POWs) had their rations cut below survival level until they were dying
>>>at rates up to 30% of exposure, starvation and neglect... Red Cross
>>>food trains were turned back and U.S. food shipments sat on the
>>>docks...One French officer said the U.S. camps reminded him of Dachau
>>>and Buchenwald...The book blames Eisenhower. 'The German is a beast,'
>>>Ike had written...But that was not how the Canadians and British felt,
>>>who treated their prisoners justly...It was not the view of General
>>>Mark Clark, nor of Patton...Ignoring the book is not enough."
>>>Pat Buchanan's courageous column inspired me to help end the cover-up
>>>of the atrocity I had witnessed. I wrote letters to several newspapers
>>>which were, of necessity, short and incomplete. Now I would like to
>>>finally free more of my painful memories, hoping to be heard, so that
>>>this will help us to acknowledge our share in the "banality of evil",
>>>cleansing ourselves with the truth. Perhaps we as a nation may then
>>>put this behind us with some integrity and with some hope for
>>>redemption.

>>>In October 1944, at age eighteen, I was drafted into the army while a
>>>student at the NYS College of Forestry. Largely due to the "Battle of
>>>the Bulge", my training was cut short, my furlough cut in half, and I
>>>was then immediately sent overseas. Upon arrival in Le Havre, France,
>>>we were quickly loaded into boxcars and shipped to the front. By the
>>>time we reached it, I had developed mononucleosis severely enough to
>>>be sent to a hospital in Belgium.

>>>By the time I left the hospital, the unit I had trained with in
>>>Spartenburg, South Carolina was so deeply into Germany that I warn
>>>placed in a "repo depo" (a replacement depot) despite my protests. I
>>>then lost interest in which units I was assigned to because non-combat
>>>units were generally not respected. My separation qualification record
>>>states that I served mostly with the 14th Infantry Regiment, during
>>>which time I guarded prisoners of war and served as an interpreter.
>>>During my seventeen month stay in Germany, I was transferred to other
>>>outfits also.

>>>In late March or early April 1945, I was assigned to help guard a POW
>>>camp near Andernach along the Rhine. I had four years of high school
>>>German, so I was able to talk to the prisoners, although this was
>>>forbidden.

>>>Gradually, however, I was used as an interpreter and asked to ferret
>>>out the S.S. (I found none.)

>>>In Andernach, between 50,000 and 65,000 prisoners, ranging in age from
>>>very young teens to very old men, were crowded together in an open
>>>field surrounded by barbed wire. The women were kept in a separate
>>>enclosure which I did not see until later. The men I guarded had no
>>>tents or other shelter, no blankets and many had no coats. Inadequate
>>>numbers of slit trenches were provided for excrement, and so the men
>>>lived and slept in the mud and increasing filth during a cold, wet
>>>spring. Their misery from exposure alone was evident.

>>>It was even more shocking to see them eating grass, sometimes throwing
>>>it into a tin can containing a thin soup. They told me they did this
>>>hoping to ease their hunger pains. Soon their emaciation was evident.
>>>Dysentery raged and, too weak and crowded to reach the slit trenches,
>>>they were increasingly sleeping in excrement. I saw no sign of
>>>provision for water, so the thin soup was their food and water for the
>>>day. Some days there was bread, less than a slice each. Other days
>>>there was nothing.

>>>The sight of so many men desperate for food and water, sickening and
>>>dying before our eyes, is indescribable. Even now, I can only think of
>>>it momentarily.

>>>We had ample food and supplies that could have been shared more
>>>humanely, and we could have offered some medical assistance, but did
>>>nothing. Only the dead were quickly and efficiently taken care of:
>>>hauled away to mass graves.

>>>My outrage reached the point that I protested to my officers, but I
>>>was met with hostility or bland indifference. When pressed, they
>>>explained they were under strict orders from "higher up". No officer
>>>would dare to systematically do this to over 50,000 prisoners if he
>>>felt he was violating general policy and subject to court martial. The
>>>term "war criminal" was just beginning to come into fashion.

>>>Realizing my protests were useless, I asked a friend working in the
>>>kitchen if he could slip me some extra food for the prisoners. He too
>>>repeated that they were under strict orders to severely ration the
>>>prisoners' food, and that these orders came from "higher up". But he
>>>said they had more food than they knew what to do with and would sneak
>>>me some.

>>>When I threw this food over the barbed wires to the prisoners I was
>>>caught and threatened with imprisonment. I repeated the "offense", and
>>>one officer threatened to shoot me. I naturally assumed this was a
>>>bluff, but I began to have some doubts after I encountered a captain
>>>on a hill above the Rhine shooting down at a group of German civilian
>>>women with his .45 caliber pistol. When I asked, "Why?" he mumbled,
>>>"Target practice," and fired until his pistol was empty. I saw the
>>>women running for cover, but, at that distance, couldn't tell if any
>>>had been hit.

>>>This is when I more fully realized I was dealing with some
>>>cold-blooded killers filled with moralistic hatred. They considered
>>>the Germans sub-human and worthy of extermination; another expression
>>>of the downward spiral of racism. Articles in the G.I. newspaper,
>>>Stars & Stripes, played up the Nazi concentration camps, complete with
>>>photographs of emaciated bodies; this amplified our self-righteous
>>>cruelty and made it easier to imitate behavior we were supposed to
>>>oppose. Also, I think, soldiers not exposed to combat were trying to
>>>prove how tough they were by taking it out on the prisoners and
>>>civilians. At least, many combat soldiers told me later they would not
>>>have tolerated this, for they combined hatred with respect for a
>>>courageous enemy.

>>>The prisoners I spoke to were mostly simple farmers and workingmen, as
>>>ignorant, albeit nationalistic, as many of our own troops. I heard
>>>many versions of "my country, right or wrong, my country," which we
>>>still hear in our own country today.

>>>As time went on, many of them lapsed into a Zombie-like state of
>>>listlessness. Others, maddened by thirst, tried to escape in a
>>>desperate or suicidal fashion, running through open fields in broad
>>>daylight towards the Rhine to quench their thirst. They were mowed
>>>down.

>>>Some prisoners were extremely eager for cigarettes, saying they took
>>>the edge off their hunger. Accordingly, some enterprising G.I. "Yankee
>>>traders" were acquiring hordes of wrist watches and rings in exchange
>>>for handfuls of cigarettes or less. When I began throwing cartons of
>>>cigar-ettes to the prisoners to ruin this trade, I found myself
>>>threatened by rank-and-file G.I.s also. At least this taught me an
>>>indelible lesson: how wrong majorities and authorities can be.

>>>A bright spot in this gloomy picture came, oddly enough, one night
>>>when I was put on the "graveyard shift", from two to four A.M.
>>>Actually, there was a graveyard on the uphill side of this enclosure,
>>>not many yards away. My superiors had forgotten to give me a
>>>flashlight and I hadn't bothered to ask, being disgusted with the
>>>whole situation by that time. It was a fairly bright night and I soon
>>>became aware of a prisoner crawling under the wires to the graveyard.
>>>We were supposed to shoot escapees on sight, so I started to get up to
>>>warn him to get back. Suddenly I noticed another prisoner crawling
>>>from the graveyard back to the enclosure. They were risking their
>>>lives to get to the graveyard for something; I had to investigate.

>>>When I entered the gloom of this shrubby, tree-shaded cemetery, I
>>>never felt more vulnerable, but somehow curiosity kept me going.
>>>Despite my caution, I tripped over the legs of someone in a prone
>>>position. Whipping my rifle around while stumbling and trying to
>>>regain composure of mind and body, I soon was relieved I hadn't
>>>reflexively fired. The figure sat up, moving erratically. Gradually I
>>>could see the beautiful but terror-stricken face of a woman with a
>>>picnic basket nearby. German civilians were not allowed to feed, nor
>>>even come near, the prisoners, so I quickly assured her I approved of
>>>what she was doing, not to be afraid, and that I would leave the
>>>graveyard to get out of the way, telling no one.

>>>I left the graveyard as quickly as possible and sat down, leaning
>>>against a tree at the edge CF the cemetary to be inconspicuous and not
>>>frighten the prisoners. I imagined then, and often since, what it
>>>would be like to be a prisoner under those conditions and meet a
>>>beautiful woman with a picnic basket. I never saw her again, but I
>>>have never forgotten her face.

>>>While I watched, more prisoners crawled to and from the enclosure. I
>>>saw they were dragging food back to their comrades and could only
>>>admire their courage and devotion. As I walked back to my quarters at
>>>the end of my shift, a nightingale and I were singing -- both felt a
>>>touch of spring.

>>>(I originally did not intend to reveal the following incident, for it
>>>moves into a realm termed "mystical". However, for me, it was an
>>>extremely significant experience, changing my life, providing a light
>>>no darkness can extinguish. It must be told, hoping it will foster
>>>understanding.)

>>>On May 8, V.E. day, I decided to celebrate with some prisoners I was
>>>guarding who were baking bread, meager amounts of which the other
>>>prisoners occasionally received. This group had all the bread they
>>>could eat, and shared the jovial mood generated by the end of the war.
>>>We all thought we would be going home soon, a pathetic hope on their
>>>part. We were in what was to become the French zone, and I later
>>>witnessed the brutality of the French soldiers when we transferred our
>>>prisoners to them for their slave labor camps (see below).

>>>However, on this day we were happy.

>>>After chatting with them about the potentials of peace for the rest of
>>>our lives, I decided to risk a gesture of trust that objectively would
>>>seem foolish. I emptied my rifle and stood it in the corner. They
>>>tested me further by asking to play with it, and I agreed. Intuitively
>>>I felt I could rely on their sense of honor not to attack me, for they
>>>knew they too were being tested. This thoroughly 'broke the ice', and
>>>soon we were singing songs we taught each other or I had learned in
>>>high school German ("Du, du, liegst mir im Herzen"). Out of gratitude,
>>>they secretly baked a small sweet bread and insisted I take it,
>>>explaining it was the only possible gift they had left to offer.
>>>Expressing my gratitude with a lump in my throat, I put it in my tight
>>>"Eisenhower jacket" so I could sneak it back to my barracks. I later
>>>found an opportunity to eat it outside.

>>>Never had bread tasted more delicious, nor conveyed to me a deeper
>>>sense of communion while eating it. A wonderful feeling pervaded me,
>>>gently opening me to an intimation of the Oneness of all Being.
>>>Through those prisoners I sensed the ~cosmic presence of what has been
>>>called the Christ, Buddha-nature, or, perhaps most aptly, the
>>>Ineffable: cosmically present, but hidden and apparently separate,
>>>until revealed in the wholeness of the giving of the self. Even within
>>>the horror humans had created, I was taught a path to redemption may
>>>open by taking a first, tentative step in the direction of love,
>>>understanding and forgiveness. This above all the prisoners taught me:
>>>not only are we all potentially humane humans, there is divinity
>>>within us waiting for us to dissolve the defensive shield of ego. I
>>>was pleased to discover later the words of Matthew 25:34-46,
>>>expressing the potential within prisoners and all who are at our
>>>mercy.

>>>Shortly after this experience I was plunged into even greater horror.
>>>Some of our weak and sickly prisoners were being marched off by French
>>>soldiers to their camp. The truck we were on first passed another
>>>truck picking up bodies along the side of the road, and then came up
>>>behind a slowly moving column of men. Temporarily we slowed down and
>>>remained behind, perhaps because the driver was as shocked as I was.
>>>The French soldiers were apparently incensed at the poor condition of
>>>our prisoners, not only for labor but for marching to another camp.
>>>Whenever a prisoner staggered or dropped back, the French clubbed him
>>>to death and then dragged him to the side of the road. For many, this
>>>quick death might have been preferable to their prolonged suffering.
>>>Even gas would have been more merciful than our murder by neglect in
>>>our slow 'killing fields'.

>>>When I saw the German women held in a separate enclosure, I asked why
>>>we were keeping them. I was told they were "camp followers", selected
>>>as breeding stock for the S.S. to create a super-race. We provided
>>>them with tents but they were extremely hungry. I spoke to some and
>>>must say they were still spirited and attractive. However, I believe I
>>>was objective enough when I told all concerned that I didn't think
>>>they deserved our treatment.

>>>As an interpreter, I was able to prevent some particularly unfortunate
>>>arrests. One somewhat amusing incident occurred during a pre-dawn raid
>>>we conducted on a town to discover Nazis or arms. An old farmer was
>>>being dragged away by some soldiers. I was told he had a "fancy Nazi
>>>medal", which they showed to me. Fortunately, I had a chart
>>>identifying such medals. He had been awarded it for having five or
>>>more children! Perhaps his wife was somewhat relieved to get him "off
>>>her back", but I didn't think one of our 'death camps' was a fair
>>>punishment for his contribution to Germany. The soldiers agreed and
>>>released him to continue his "dirty work".

>>>Famine was spreading amongst German civilians also. It was a common
>>>sight to see German women up to their elbows in our garbage cans
>>>looking for something edible -- that is, when they weren't chased
>>>away.

>>>When I interviewed mayors of small towns and villages, I was told
>>>their supply of food had been taken away by "displaced persons"
>>>(foreigners who had worked in Germany), who packed the food on trucks
>>>and drove away. When I reported this, the response was a shrug or an
>>>expression of helplessness.

>>>Although the Red Cross coffee and doughnut stands were available
>>>everywhere for us, I never saw any Red Cross in the prison camps or
>>>helping the civilians. While my girlfriend had all the "contraband"
>>>doughnuts she could eat, most Germans had to share their meager hidden
>>>stores and wait until the next harvest.

>>>This hunger undoubtedly made many German women more "available", but,
>>>despite this, rape was incredibly prevalent and often accompanied by
>>>additional violence. I particularly remember a charming eighteen year
>>>old girl who had several unsuccessful suitors and was "just friends"
>>>with me, who had the side of her face smashed with a rifle butt and
>>>was then raped by two G.I.s. The casual shooting of German civilians
>>>also continued, usually by drunken soldiers who would tell of this as
>>>something amusing. All too many G.I.s gave the impression they were
>>>1ike animals released from cages, free to do what they liked because
>>>they were dealing with yet a lower species of animal, a reverse
>>>racism, inflamed by our propaganda. However, even the French
>>>complained to me that our rape and drunken destructive behavior in
>>>their country was excessive. When we had arrived in Le Havre, we had
>>>been given booklets instructing us that the Germans had maintained a
>>>high standard of behavior with French civilians who were peaceful, and
>>>that we should do the same. In this we failed miserably.

>>>So what? we might still say. The enemies' atrocities were worse than
>>>ours. Certainly my experiences were only of the last phases of the
>>>war, when we were already clearly the victors. The Nazi opportunity
>>>for atrocities had faded and ours was unleashed. But we might have
>>>learned the simple lesson that two wrongs do not make a right. Perhaps
>>>we might even have broken the cycle of vengeful retaliation and
>>>unbridled hatred, fed by racism, that has plagued human history and
>>>blighted human potential all to long. Instead, we committed our own
>>>atrocities and now are clinging to a cover-up. That is why I am
>>>speaking out now, forty-five years after the crime. We can never
>>>prevent individual war crimes, but we can, if enough of us speak out,
>>>influence government policy. We can reject government propaganda that
>>>depicts our enemies as subhuman and encourages the kinds of outrages I
>>>witnessed. We can protest the bombing of civilian targets, which still
>>>goes on today. (I will never forget the sickly sweet smell of rotting
>>>human flesh rising from the shattered remains of the cities and towns
>>>I entered.) And we can refuse ever to condone our government' s murder
>>>of unarmed and defeated prisoners of war.

>>>I realized it's difficult to admit witnessing a crime of this
>>>magnitude, especially if implicated oneself. Even G.I .s sympathetic
>>>to the victims told me they were afraid to oppose so massive a policy
>>>that would surely seek to cover its tracks. I never heard this
>>>directly from an officer, but it was the belief of the rank-and-file
>>>G.I.s I spoke to that we were not to "talk" because, first, no one
>>>would believe us, and second, we would surely get into trouble. They
>>>all insisted it was better not to talk, and slowly I too realized it
>>>would be futile and dangerous. That is, until now, thanks to James
>>>Bacque and Pat Buchanan. This is not to say the danger has passed.
>>>Since I "spoke out" recently, my mailbox has been smashed and I have
>>>received threatening phone calls. But I believe it is worth the risk.
>>>Writing about these atrocities has been a catharsis of feelings
>>>suppressed too long, a liberation, and perhaps will remind other
>>>witnesses and citizens -that "the truth shall make us free, have no
>>>fear." And, in any case, "the truth shall out".

>>>We may even learn a supreme lesson from all this: Hate is
>>>self-destructive; only love can conquer and evolve all as One.

>>>Martin Brech
>>>(Adjunct Professor,
>>>Philosophy & Religion,
>>>Mercy College;
>>>Ex-G.I., Finally Free)
>>>Martin Brech, 187 Archer Road, Mahopac, NY 10541, Tel.: 914-628-6301

>>>James Bacque: Did the Allies starve millions of Germans?


>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article...


Ken McVay from Nizkor seems to actually deny that something like death
camps for Germans even existed or that Germans were deliberately
starved to death (Rheinwiesenlager).
http://www.rheinwiesenlager.de/

He himself is some kind of "Holocaust Denier", when it comes to German
suffering.
Note that Nizkor virtually doesn't mention any German suffering:
http://www.nizkor.org/other-sites/genocides.html
No mentioning of Germans at all. But after all, why bother about those
subhumans that according to Nizkor and related sources "gassed millions of
Jews"?!


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just  to
justify his existence to his ZYD masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZYD COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZYDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZYDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.



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Subject: Wish To Dispose of Dealer Stock-$3 Million CV Stamp Collections-
Verkauf/Tausch $3 Millionen BiefmarkenSammlungen

We seek a qualified buyer of all our stock, for cash payable to our bankers.
Approximately $3 million CV, with main areas of interest:
GB
Canada
Germany
Commonwealth
France
USA
Australia
Austria
Switzerland
Israel
etc.

If interested, kindly advise.
The reason for sale, eyesight going blind. 
Ich verliere meine Sicht,und gehe Blinde.
Am NOT interested in consigning, or auction, only full cash sale.

We mean CASH for the buyer to take all, not cheques, drafts, or whatever.
May consider part swap for something significant, such as clear title cottage,
motorhome, or?
Am located in northern Canada.

Reply to: JoeBlough@operamail.com

P.S. Nigerian Scam and similar just disregarded as worthless.

Verkauf/Tausch $3 Millionen BiefmarkenSammlungen von 
Briefmarken Sammlungen Zu Verfügen

Wir suchen einen Käufer von unserer ganzen Aktie, für Bargeld das zahlbar 
ist zu unseren Bankiers. 
Ungefähr $3 Millionen KatalogwertF, mit Hauptgebieten 
des Interesses: 
GB 
Kanada 
Deutschland
Britische Commonwealth 
Frankreich 
Vereinigten Staaten
Australien 
Österreich 
Schweiz 
Israel usw.

Wenn interessiert, freundlich rät. 
Der Grund zum Verkauf, gehend Sehvermögen 
blendet. 
Ich verliere meine Sicht, und gehe Blinde. 
Interessiere mich NICHT für Schicken, oder Auktion, nur volles Bargeschäft.

Wir bedeuten, dass BARGELD für den Käufer alle nimmt, nicht Schecke, 
Kann teils Tausch für etwas bedeutsames, wie 
zum Beispiel klares Titellandhaus, motorhome, oder bedenken? 
Bin in nördlichem Kanada befunden. 
P. S. Nigerianisch Scam und ähnlich hat nur als 
wertlos nicht beachtet.





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This hotel & casino is owned by a group out of Vienna, Austria.

Have their standards of operation sunk so low, that they must resort to
SWINDLING, and having an UNSAFE hotel as well?

perhaps people in Austria may wish to comment?


On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 07:28:44 -0700, Frank Arthur  wrote:

>The new Century Casino have been flooding homes in Edmonton with flyers,
>promoting supposed deals at their restaurant.

>They are claiming buffet breakfasts on Wednesdays for only $1,99.
>In their flyer they also advertise FREE COFFEE between 9-11 a.m.

>However, they are CHARGING FOR THE COFFEES when one gets the 
>buffet breakfast, which is FRAUD!!

>If you want toast with the scrambled eggs, they charge for that extra!!
>The scrambled eggs with bacon or ham or sausage is edible, but no toast, 
>no waffles, no pancackes means there is no choice!!

>To really get seniors angry, one is forced to wait in a lineup from 8;45 until
>9:30 to get seated, because of no line-up supervision by hotel staff. What was
>happening was that several  slimeballs  in the lineup would take a whole table
>for 6. Then his buddies would show up after half an hour, and jump the line-up
>to take over the table for another half hour. 3 groups did this, with people
>in the lineup complaining.

>Many of the seniors in the line-up for an hour or more complained, but the
>hotel managers did not give a damn.

>Gamblers, go to a better casino, whether at Northlands, Yellowhead, or River
>Cree, and AVOID CENTURY CASINO (formerly Londonderry Inn) on the Fort Road.

>Maybe when enough people avoid this dump then perhaps the owners in Colorado
>and Vienna Austria will realise they need to replace the so-called managers!!



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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 22:10:08 +0100, "Steve"  wrote:

>Have you seen the photos of the mass slaughter of Germans that
>Eisenhower did very quietly *after* the war was over?
>
>If not, please look at the scanned images of the rarely seen article
>from a magazine in 1989:
>
>http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Eisenhower.html

On Sun, 20 August 2006  08:54:37 -0700, Ken McVaySOBC
wrote:

This is more than true, if you read the book "OTHER LOSSES" by
Bacque!

It seems that those who were involved in this gencoide after the war,
tried hard to suppress news about their crimes, and many of the
victims died, fearing harm to their families if they told the truth.

Now, with more and more survivors willing to testify, including some
of the US military involved, the truth is being substantiated!


>>>On 13 Dec 2004 01:34:52 -0800, "Schorsch"  wrote:
>>>Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>> In article <1102789129.632939.294380@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>>> Schorsch  wrote:
>> >Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People
>> >Measures for the Devastation of the Heart of Europe

>>> Was there some point you wished to make?

>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article...

>>>Subject: Es Stimmt-Ike's Death Camps for Germans!!

>>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting 
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still 
>>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the 
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all 
>>>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>>Here is the latest.......

>>>From: cmsahe@excite.com (Carlos cmsahe)
>>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.europe
>>>Subject: "Ike"'s Death camps
>>>Date: 18 Feb 2002 07:43:47 -0800

>>>A U.S. PRISON GUARD AT ONE OF "IKE'S DEATH CAMPS"

>>>By Martin Brech

>>>FORTY-FIVE years ago, I witnessed an atrocity: the deliberate
>>>starvation of German POWs by our own army. History, written by the
>>>victors, suppressed all news of this atrocity until James Bacque, a
>>>Canadian author, published his brilliant expose, OTHER LOSSES. This
>>>book is a best seller in Canada, a sensation in Europe, yet is
>>>virtually unavailable (censored?) in the U.S. Our major booksellers
>>>told me their distributors are not handling it. When I prevailed upon
>>>a small, independent bookstore to order direct from Canada, the
>>>publisher told them they would be the only store in New York State to
>>>carry the book. This in 'the land of the free'?"

>>>Fortunately, Pat Buchanan called attention to OTHER LOSSES in his
>>>January 10, 1990 column. He wrote:

>>>"Conclusion: the U.S. Army killed ten times as many Germans in POW
>>>camps as we did on battlefields from Normandy to V.E. day. (German
>>>POWs) had their rations cut below survival level until they were dying
>>>at rates up to 30% of exposure, starvation and neglect... Red Cross
>>>food trains were turned back and U.S. food shipments sat on the
>>>docks...One French officer said the U.S. camps reminded him of Dachau
>>>and Buchenwald...The book blames Eisenhower. 'The German is a beast,'
>>>Ike had written...But that was not how the Canadians and British felt,
>>>who treated their prisoners justly...It was not the view of General
>>>Mark Clark, nor of Patton...Ignoring the book is not enough."
>>>Pat Buchanan's courageous column inspired me to help end the cover-up
>>>of the atrocity I had witnessed. I wrote letters to several newspapers
>>>which were, of necessity, short and incomplete. Now I would like to
>>>finally free more of my painful memories, hoping to be heard, so that
>>>this will help us to acknowledge our share in the "banality of evil",
>>>cleansing ourselves with the truth. Perhaps we as a nation may then
>>>put this behind us with some integrity and with some hope for
>>>redemption.

>>>In October 1944, at age eighteen, I was drafted into the army while a
>>>student at the NYS College of Forestry. Largely due to the "Battle of
>>>the Bulge", my training was cut short, my furlough cut in half, and I
>>>was then immediately sent overseas. Upon arrival in Le Havre, France,
>>>we were quickly loaded into boxcars and shipped to the front. By the
>>>time we reached it, I had developed mononucleosis severely enough to
>>>be sent to a hospital in Belgium.

>>>By the time I left the hospital, the unit I had trained with in
>>>Spartenburg, South Carolina was so deeply into Germany that I warn
>>>placed in a "repo depo" (a replacement depot) despite my protests. I
>>>then lost interest in which units I was assigned to because non-combat
>>>units were generally not respected. My separation qualification record
>>>states that I served mostly with the 14th Infantry Regiment, during
>>>which time I guarded prisoners of war and served as an interpreter.
>>>During my seventeen month stay in Germany, I was transferred to other
>>>outfits also.

>>>In late March or early April 1945, I was assigned to help guard a POW
>>>camp near Andernach along the Rhine. I had four years of high school
>>>German, so I was able to talk to the prisoners, although this was
>>>forbidden.

>>>Gradually, however, I was used as an interpreter and asked to ferret
>>>out the S.S. (I found none.)

>>>In Andernach, between 50,000 and 65,000 prisoners, ranging in age from
>>>very young teens to very old men, were crowded together in an open
>>>field surrounded by barbed wire. The women were kept in a separate
>>>enclosure which I did not see until later. The men I guarded had no
>>>tents or other shelter, no blankets and many had no coats. Inadequate
>>>numbers of slit trenches were provided for excrement, and so the men
>>>lived and slept in the mud and increasing filth during a cold, wet
>>>spring. Their misery from exposure alone was evident.

>>>It was even more shocking to see them eating grass, sometimes throwing
>>>it into a tin can containing a thin soup. They told me they did this
>>>hoping to ease their hunger pains. Soon their emaciation was evident.
>>>Dysentery raged and, too weak and crowded to reach the slit trenches,
>>>they were increasingly sleeping in excrement. I saw no sign of
>>>provision for water, so the thin soup was their food and water for the
>>>day. Some days there was bread, less than a slice each. Other days
>>>there was nothing.

>>>The sight of so many men desperate for food and water, sickening and
>>>dying before our eyes, is indescribable. Even now, I can only think of
>>>it momentarily.

>>>We had ample food and supplies that could have been shared more
>>>humanely, and we could have offered some medical assistance, but did
>>>nothing. Only the dead were quickly and efficiently taken care of:
>>>hauled away to mass graves.

>>>My outrage reached the point that I protested to my officers, but I
>>>was met with hostility or bland indifference. When pressed, they
>>>explained they were under strict orders from "higher up". No officer
>>>would dare to systematically do this to over 50,000 prisoners if he
>>>felt he was violating general policy and subject to court martial. The
>>>term "war criminal" was just beginning to come into fashion.

>>>Realizing my protests were useless, I asked a friend working in the
>>>kitchen if he could slip me some extra food for the prisoners. He too
>>>repeated that they were under strict orders to severely ration the
>>>prisoners' food, and that these orders came from "higher up". But he
>>>said they had more food than they knew what to do with and would sneak
>>>me some.

>>>When I threw this food over the barbed wires to the prisoners I was
>>>caught and threatened with imprisonment. I repeated the "offense", and
>>>one officer threatened to shoot me. I naturally assumed this was a
>>>bluff, but I began to have some doubts after I encountered a captain
>>>on a hill above the Rhine shooting down at a group of German civilian
>>>women with his .45 caliber pistol. When I asked, "Why?" he mumbled,
>>>"Target practice," and fired until his pistol was empty. I saw the
>>>women running for cover, but, at that distance, couldn't tell if any
>>>had been hit.

>>>This is when I more fully realized I was dealing with some
>>>cold-blooded killers filled with moralistic hatred. They considered
>>>the Germans sub-human and worthy of extermination; another expression
>>>of the downward spiral of racism. Articles in the G.I. newspaper,
>>>Stars & Stripes, played up the Nazi concentration camps, complete with
>>>photographs of emaciated bodies; this amplified our self-righteous
>>>cruelty and made it easier to imitate behavior we were supposed to
>>>oppose. Also, I think, soldiers not exposed to combat were trying to
>>>prove how tough they were by taking it out on the prisoners and
>>>civilians. At least, many combat soldiers told me later they would not
>>>have tolerated this, for they combined hatred with respect for a
>>>courageous enemy.

>>>The prisoners I spoke to were mostly simple farmers and workingmen, as
>>>ignorant, albeit nationalistic, as many of our own troops. I heard
>>>many versions of "my country, right or wrong, my country," which we
>>>still hear in our own country today.

>>>As time went on, many of them lapsed into a Zombie-like state of
>>>listlessness. Others, maddened by thirst, tried to escape in a
>>>desperate or suicidal fashion, running through open fields in broad
>>>daylight towards the Rhine to quench their thirst. They were mowed
>>>down.

>>>Some prisoners were extremely eager for cigarettes, saying they took
>>>the edge off their hunger. Accordingly, some enterprising G.I. "Yankee
>>>traders" were acquiring hordes of wrist watches and rings in exchange
>>>for handfuls of cigarettes or less. When I began throwing cartons of
>>>cigar-ettes to the prisoners to ruin this trade, I found myself
>>>threatened by rank-and-file G.I.s also. At least this taught me an
>>>indelible lesson: how wrong majorities and authorities can be.

>>>A bright spot in this gloomy picture came, oddly enough, one night
>>>when I was put on the "graveyard shift", from two to four A.M.
>>>Actually, there was a graveyard on the uphill side of this enclosure,
>>>not many yards away. My superiors had forgotten to give me a
>>>flashlight and I hadn't bothered to ask, being disgusted with the
>>>whole situation by that time. It was a fairly bright night and I soon
>>>became aware of a prisoner crawling under the wires to the graveyard.
>>>We were supposed to shoot escapees on sight, so I started to get up to
>>>warn him to get back. Suddenly I noticed another prisoner crawling
>>>from the graveyard back to the enclosure. They were risking their
>>>lives to get to the graveyard for something; I had to investigate.

>>>When I entered the gloom of this shrubby, tree-shaded cemetery, I
>>>never felt more vulnerable, but somehow curiosity kept me going.
>>>Despite my caution, I tripped over the legs of someone in a prone
>>>position. Whipping my rifle around while stumbling and trying to
>>>regain composure of mind and body, I soon was relieved I hadn't
>>>reflexively fired. The figure sat up, moving erratically. Gradually I
>>>could see the beautiful but terror-stricken face of a woman with a
>>>picnic basket nearby. German civilians were not allowed to feed, nor
>>>even come near, the prisoners, so I quickly assured her I approved of
>>>what she was doing, not to be afraid, and that I would leave the
>>>graveyard to get out of the way, telling no one.

>>>I left the graveyard as quickly as possible and sat down, leaning
>>>against a tree at the edge CF the cemetary to be inconspicuous and not
>>>frighten the prisoners. I imagined then, and often since, what it
>>>would be like to be a prisoner under those conditions and meet a
>>>beautiful woman with a picnic basket. I never saw her again, but I
>>>have never forgotten her face.

>>>While I watched, more prisoners crawled to and from the enclosure. I
>>>saw they were dragging food back to their comrades and could only
>>>admire their courage and devotion. As I walked back to my quarters at
>>>the end of my shift, a nightingale and I were singing -- both felt a
>>>touch of spring.

>>>(I originally did not intend to reveal the following incident, for it
>>>moves into a realm termed "mystical". However, for me, it was an
>>>extremely significant experience, changing my life, providing a light
>>>no darkness can extinguish. It must be told, hoping it will foster
>>>understanding.)

>>>On May 8, V.E. day, I decided to celebrate with some prisoners I was
>>>guarding who were baking bread, meager amounts of which the other
>>>prisoners occasionally received. This group had all the bread they
>>>could eat, and shared the jovial mood generated by the end of the war.
>>>We all thought we would be going home soon, a pathetic hope on their
>>>part. We were in what was to become the French zone, and I later
>>>witnessed the brutality of the French soldiers when we transferred our
>>>prisoners to them for their slave labor camps (see below).

>>>However, on this day we were happy.

>>>After chatting with them about the potentials of peace for the rest of
>>>our lives, I decided to risk a gesture of trust that objectively would
>>>seem foolish. I emptied my rifle and stood it in the corner. They
>>>tested me further by asking to play with it, and I agreed. Intuitively
>>>I felt I could rely on their sense of honor not to attack me, for they
>>>knew they too were being tested. This thoroughly 'broke the ice', and
>>>soon we were singing songs we taught each other or I had learned in
>>>high school German ("Du, du, liegst mir im Herzen"). Out of gratitude,
>>>they secretly baked a small sweet bread and insisted I take it,
>>>explaining it was the only possible gift they had left to offer.
>>>Expressing my gratitude with a lump in my throat, I put it in my tight
>>>"Eisenhower jacket" so I could sneak it back to my barracks. I later
>>>found an opportunity to eat it outside.

>>>Never had bread tasted more delicious, nor conveyed to me a deeper
>>>sense of communion while eating it. A wonderful feeling pervaded me,
>>>gently opening me to an intimation of the Oneness of all Being.
>>>Through those prisoners I sensed the ~cosmic presence of what has been
>>>called the Christ, Buddha-nature, or, perhaps most aptly, the
>>>Ineffable: cosmically present, but hidden and apparently separate,
>>>until revealed in the wholeness of the giving of the self. Even within
>>>the horror humans had created, I was taught a path to redemption may
>>>open by taking a first, tentative step in the direction of love,
>>>understanding and forgiveness. This above all the prisoners taught me:
>>>not only are we all potentially humane humans, there is divinity
>>>within us waiting for us to dissolve the defensive shield of ego. I
>>>was pleased to discover later the words of Matthew 25:34-46,
>>>expressing the potential within prisoners and all who are at our
>>>mercy.

>>>Shortly after this experience I was plunged into even greater horror.
>>>Some of our weak and sickly prisoners were being marched off by French
>>>soldiers to their camp. The truck we were on first passed another
>>>truck picking up bodies along the side of the road, and then came up
>>>behind a slowly moving column of men. Temporarily we slowed down and
>>>remained behind, perhaps because the driver was as shocked as I was.
>>>The French soldiers were apparently incensed at the poor condition of
>>>our prisoners, not only for labor but for marching to another camp.
>>>Whenever a prisoner staggered or dropped back, the French clubbed him
>>>to death and then dragged him to the side of the road. For many, this
>>>quick death might have been preferable to their prolonged suffering.
>>>Even gas would have been more merciful than our murder by neglect in
>>>our slow 'killing fields'.

>>>When I saw the German women held in a separate enclosure, I asked why
>>>we were keeping them. I was told they were "camp followers", selected
>>>as breeding stock for the S.S. to create a super-race. We provided
>>>them with tents but they were extremely hungry. I spoke to some and
>>>must say they were still spirited and attractive. However, I believe I
>>>was objective enough when I told all concerned that I didn't think
>>>they deserved our treatment.

>>>As an interpreter, I was able to prevent some particularly unfortunate
>>>arrests. One somewhat amusing incident occurred during a pre-dawn raid
>>>we conducted on a town to discover Nazis or arms. An old farmer was
>>>being dragged away by some soldiers. I was told he had a "fancy Nazi
>>>medal", which they showed to me. Fortunately, I had a chart
>>>identifying such medals. He had been awarded it for having five or
>>>more children! Perhaps his wife was somewhat relieved to get him "off
>>>her back", but I didn't think one of our 'death camps' was a fair
>>>punishment for his contribution to Germany. The soldiers agreed and
>>>released him to continue his "dirty work".

>>>Famine was spreading amongst German civilians also. It was a common
>>>sight to see German women up to their elbows in our garbage cans
>>>looking for something edible -- that is, when they weren't chased
>>>away.

>>>When I interviewed mayors of small towns and villages, I was told
>>>their supply of food had been taken away by "displaced persons"
>>>(foreigners who had worked in Germany), who packed the food on trucks
>>>and drove away. When I reported this, the response was a shrug or an
>>>expression of helplessness.

>>>Although the Red Cross coffee and doughnut stands were available
>>>everywhere for us, I never saw any Red Cross in the prison camps or
>>>helping the civilians. While my girlfriend had all the "contraband"
>>>doughnuts she could eat, most Germans had to share their meager hidden
>>>stores and wait until the next harvest.

>>>This hunger undoubtedly made many German women more "available", but,
>>>despite this, rape was incredibly prevalent and often accompanied by
>>>additional violence. I particularly remember a charming eighteen year
>>>old girl who had several unsuccessful suitors and was "just friends"
>>>with me, who had the side of her face smashed with a rifle butt and
>>>was then raped by two G.I.s. The casual shooting of German civilians
>>>also continued, usually by drunken soldiers who would tell of this as
>>>something amusing. All too many G.I.s gave the impression they were
>>>1ike animals released from cages, free to do what they liked because
>>>they were dealing with yet a lower species of animal, a reverse
>>>racism, inflamed by our propaganda. However, even the French
>>>complained to me that our rape and drunken destructive behavior in
>>>their country was excessive. When we had arrived in Le Havre, we had
>>>been given booklets instructing us that the Germans had maintained a
>>>high standard of behavior with French civilians who were peaceful, and
>>>that we should do the same. In this we failed miserably.

>>>So what? we might still say. The enemies' atrocities were worse than
>>>ours. Certainly my experiences were only of the last phases of the
>>>war, when we were already clearly the victors. The Nazi opportunity
>>>for atrocities had faded and ours was unleashed. But we might have
>>>learned the simple lesson that two wrongs do not make a right. Perhaps
>>>we might even have broken the cycle of vengeful retaliation and
>>>unbridled hatred, fed by racism, that has plagued human history and
>>>blighted human potential all to long. Instead, we committed our own
>>>atrocities and now are clinging to a cover-up. That is why I am
>>>speaking out now, forty-five years after the crime. We can never
>>>prevent individual war crimes, but we can, if enough of us speak out,
>>>influence government policy. We can reject government propaganda that
>>>depicts our enemies as subhuman and encourages the kinds of outrages I
>>>witnessed. We can protest the bombing of civilian targets, which still
>>>goes on today. (I will never forget the sickly sweet smell of rotting
>>>human flesh rising from the shattered remains of the cities and towns
>>>I entered.) And we can refuse ever to condone our government' s murder
>>>of unarmed and defeated prisoners of war.

>>>I realized it's difficult to admit witnessing a crime of this
>>>magnitude, especially if implicated oneself. Even G.I .s sympathetic
>>>to the victims told me they were afraid to oppose so massive a policy
>>>that would surely seek to cover its tracks. I never heard this
>>>directly from an officer, but it was the belief of the rank-and-file
>>>G.I.s I spoke to that we were not to "talk" because, first, no one
>>>would believe us, and second, we would surely get into trouble. They
>>>all insisted it was better not to talk, and slowly I too realized it
>>>would be futile and dangerous. That is, until now, thanks to James
>>>Bacque and Pat Buchanan. This is not to say the danger has passed.
>>>Since I "spoke out" recently, my mailbox has been smashed and I have
>>>received threatening phone calls. But I believe it is worth the risk.
>>>Writing about these atrocities has been a catharsis of feelings
>>>suppressed too long, a liberation, and perhaps will remind other
>>>witnesses and citizens -that "the truth shall make us free, have no
>>>fear." And, in any case, "the truth shall out".

>>>We may even learn a supreme lesson from all this: Hate is
>>>self-destructive; only love can conquer and evolve all as One.

>>>Martin Brech
>>>(Adjunct Professor,
>>>Philosophy & Religion,
>>>Mercy College;
>>>Ex-G.I., Finally Free)
>>>Martin Brech, 187 Archer Road, Mahopac, NY 10541, Tel.: 914-628-6301

>>>James Bacque: Did the Allies starve millions of Germans?


>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article...


Ken McVay from Nizkor seems to actually deny that something like death
camps for Germans even existed or that Germans were deliberately
starved to death (Rheinwiesenlager).
http://www.rheinwiesenlager.de/

He himself is some kind of "Holocaust Denier", when it comes to German
suffering.
Note that Nizkor virtually doesn't mention any German suffering:
http://www.nizkor.org/other-sites/genocides.html
No mentioning of Germans at all. But after all, why bother about those
subhumans that according to Nizkor and related sources "gassed millions of
Jews"?!


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just  to
justify his existence to his ZYD masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZYD COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZYDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZYDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.



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This hotel & casino is owned by a group out of Vienna, Austria.

Have their standards of operation sunk so low, that they must resort to
SWINDLING, and having an UNSAFE hotel as well?

perhaps people in Austria may wish to comment?


On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 07:28:44 -0700, Frank Arthur  wrote:

>The new Century Casino have been flooding homes in Edmonton with flyers,
>promoting supposed deals at their restaurant.

>They are claiming buffet breakfasts on Wednesdays for only $1,99.
>In their flyer they also advertise FREE COFFEE between 9-11 a.m.

>However, they are CHARGING FOR THE COFFEES when one gets the 
>buffet breakfast, which is FRAUD!!

>If you want toast with the scrambled eggs, they charge for that extra!!
>The scrambled eggs with bacon or ham or sausage is edible, but no toast, 
>no waffles, no pancackes means there is no choice!!

>To really get seniors angry, one is forced to wait in a lineup from 8;45 until
>9:30 to get seated, because of no line-up supervision by hotel staff. What was
>happening was that several  slimeballs  in the lineup would take a whole table
>for 6. Then his buddies would show up after half an hour, and jump the line-up
>to take over the table for another half hour. 3 groups did this, with people
>in the lineup complaining.

>Many of the seniors in the line-up for an hour or more complained, but the
>hotel managers did not give a damn.

>Gamblers, go to a better casino, whether at Northlands, Yellowhead, or River
>Cree, and AVOID CENTURY CASINO (formerly Londonderry Inn) on the Fort Road.

>Maybe when enough people avoid this dump then perhaps the owners in Colorado
>and Vienna Austria will realise they need to replace the so-called managers!!



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These are the best pictures I can find of me, LOL...
Spouting Hot Air: http://tinyurl.com/apzwp

Isn't 'Ariadne' the literal for (female) "spawn of Satan?"
The "spawn" on her treadmill... http://tinyurl.com/qomwc

This is one from when she was up on a midnight run to the
refridgerator: 
http://tinyurl.com/rxum3

Arid-Asshole at a ladies only Sumo Swim-Meet in Sheffield:
http://tinyurl.com/p2zbq


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant
Reply-To: "George" ,
or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.

~~




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On 27 Nov 2005 16:19:47 -0800, "Ariadne" wrote:
>Jason P wrote:
>> By Paula Amann

>> Washington Jewish Week/Jewsweek - 2001

>> http://www.jewsweek.com/society/059.htm

>> They come to Israel from the Ukraine, Russia, and Moldova looking for
>> freedom. Instead they are sold as sex slaves. And you thought Israel
>> was holy.

>> Jewsweek.com | Their names are Natalya, Oxana or Svetlana. They come to
>> Israel, as immigrants do, for a better life. But their dreams of
>> working as a waitress, nurse, or au pair turn nightmarish upon their
>> arrival.

>> Their fellow countryman who met them at the airport, speaking the
>> language of home, takes them to a locked apartment with barred windows
>> and a phone that only takes incoming calls, where they are forced to
>> provide sexual services to strangers.

>> Those who rebel risk being raped, beaten, or starved. Even those who
>> knew they were going into prostitution are shocked by the stark
>> conditions, the pay of roughly 20 shekalim ($5) a day or less for their
>> labor.

>> This disturbing story unfolds all too often at the hotline for Migrant
>> Workers, a Tel Aviv agency founded in 1998 to protect the human rights
>> of foreign workers, victims of sex trafficking among them. The hotline
>> takes as its motto the familiar line from Exodus 22:20: "You shall not
>> wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of
>> Egypt."

>> Agency director and co-founder Sigal Rozen, along with the group's
>> counsel, Nomi Levenkron, were in Washington, D.C., last week to give a
>> lecture at the Johns Hopkins Nitze School of Advanced International
>> Studies, to network and to speak with supporters. Among them are the
>> New Israel Fund, which has given the hotline a total of $19,000 during
>> the past year and a half.

>> In an interview, Rozen called sex trafficking an "unorganized crime,"
>> based largely on personal networks of immigrants from the Ukraine,
>> Russia, and Moldova.

>> "... "It's easier being a trafficker than being a plumber ..."   --Nomi
>> Levenkron

>> Those three countries alone accounted for 91 percent of the 474 women
>> arrested in brothels and deported from Israel in 2000, according to
>> figures compiled by hotline volunteers during visits to the Neveh
>> Tirzah women's prison.

>> These statistics represent only a fraction of the problem. Police
>> spokespersons have set the number of women brought into the country to
>> work in the sex industry at 2,000-3,000 annually, the number of
>> brothels at 250, Rozen said.

>> "It's Misha that knows Sasha that knows Vladimir," added Levenkron,
>> noting the economic incentive to be a pimp or work with one. "It's
>> easier being a trafficker than being a plumber."

>> One day she got a phone call from a rape crisis center where a woman
>> pleaded to be arrested and deported.

>> This young Moldovian had twice tried to escape her pimp and at 18, was
>> burned out on prostitution and just wanted to go home.

>> "She's so young and sweet," reflected Levenkron. "She came to Israel to
>> be a waitress."

>> A year ago this month, Israel passed the Law Against Trafficking Women.
>> Before that time, other laws existed against soliciting, pimping, and
>> running brothels.

>> Yet hotline staff point out that few pimps involved in trafficking ever
>> face a judge, with the majority of prostitutes deported without ever
>> facing a trial that might involve their testimony against their pimps.
>> Out of 459 women deported in 1998, only 35 cases went to trial; out of
>> 253 in 1999, a scant five ended up in the courtroom.

>> Judicial indifference is compounded by police complicity, Levenkron
>> argued.

>> The 18-year-old Moldovian, it turned out, had at one point in her
>> misadventures, found herself in a Tel Aviv police station where some of
>> the officers, who were her clients, recognized her and moved to call
>> her pimp.

>> Overhearing their plans, the woman fled and moved in with a
>> client-turned-boyfriend.

>> But somehow the pimp found her again, threatened the boyfriend. The
>> young woman, with no place to go, went back to the brothel. Now the
>> case hangs in the courts, where Levenkron has faint hopes for a
>> positive outcome.

>> The police role in such trafficking ranges from casual to highly
>> serious, she alleged.

>> "There are police who just come as clients, those who get special
>> discounts because of their good relationships with the owner of the
>> place and those that inform the owner about police operations,"
>> explained Levenkron.

>> One young Beersheva prostitute told the attorney she was forced to work
>> seven days a week unless a police raid was expected.

>> Widespread fear of violence from pimps has muted the public outcry, say
>> hotline staff. When Levenkron filed a suit on behalf of a
>> Beersheva-based woman, a 20-year-old Moldovian who had survived six
>> pimps and multiple rapes, several of the lawyer's friends came to her
>> home to bid her a final farewell, in anticipation of her imminent
>> death, she said.

>> INTERNATIONAL PROBLEM

>> Worldwide, trafficking in persons for domestic service, forced labor,
>> and prostitution ranks third after drugs and guns among the activities
>> of international crime, according to a congressional service report
>> released May 10, 2000. For comparison, about 50,000 people are brought
>> to the United States annually, the report stated.

>> The rise in trafficking seen over the 1990s was fueled by feeble
>> economies in source countries, such as the former Soviet Union and
>> Southeast Asia, along with weak penalties for traffickers, said a
>> government official familiar with these issues.

>> Last October, the United States passed its own law addressing this
>> problem, the Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act, which
>> calls on the State Department to report annually on the scope of
>> trafficking in various countries and measures taken to combat it. The
>> report was due for release on June 1, but its publication has been
>> delayed.

>> In Israel today, official policy on trafficking is to arrest and deport
>> foreign sex workers. The women are held for an average of 30 days under
>> crowded and sometimes harsh conditions, longer if they testify in court
>> against their pimps, according to hotline data.

>> Rozen and Levenkron take issue with this approach. "Deporting women
>> doesn't make things better," said Levenkron. "I'm tired of shouting
>> this all over Israel so I've come here [to the United States] to shout
>> about it."

>> Rozen contends that a one-year work permit in specified fields such as
>> home health care or child care, before their return home, would put the
>> former prostitutes in a stronger position to take care of themselves.

>> Gruesome albeit unsubstantiated stories abound, she says, about revenge
>> attacks on returning women and their families by the original
>> trafficker in the home country.

>> A nest egg from a year's legitimate work, Rozen suggests, would allow
>> victims to re-establish themselves in a new community and stay out of
>> the clutches of traffickers in the future.

>> Meanwhile, Levenkron is seeking professional back-up in her job
>> representing the victims of trafficking.

>> "I am the [hotline] legal department," laments Levenkron. "We need
>> lawyers and we need public awareness."



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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 22:10:08 +0100, "Steve"  wrote:

>Have you seen the photos of the mass slaughter of Germans that
>Eisenhower did very quietly *after* the war was over?
>
>If not, please look at the scanned images of the rarely seen article
>from a magazine in 1989:
>
>http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Eisenhower.html

On Sun, 20 August 2006  08:54:37 -0700, Ken McVaySOBC
wrote:

This is more than true, if you read the book "OTHER LOSSES" by
Bacque!

It seems that those who were involved in this gencoide after the war,
tried hard to suppress news about their crimes, and many of the
victims died, fearing harm to their families if they told the truth.

Now, with more and more survivors willing to testify, including some
of the US military involved, the truth is being substantiated!


>>>On 13 Dec 2004 01:34:52 -0800, "Schorsch"  wrote:
>>>Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>> In article <1102789129.632939.294380@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>>> Schorsch  wrote:
>> >Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People
>> >Measures for the Devastation of the Heart of Europe

>>> Was there some point you wished to make?

>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article...

>>>Subject: Es Stimmt-Ike's Death Camps for Germans!!

>>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting 
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still 
>>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the 
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all 
>>>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>>Here is the latest.......

>>>From: cmsahe@excite.com (Carlos cmsahe)
>>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.europe
>>>Subject: "Ike"'s Death camps
>>>Date: 18 Feb 2002 07:43:47 -0800

>>>A U.S. PRISON GUARD AT ONE OF "IKE'S DEATH CAMPS"

>>>By Martin Brech

>>>FORTY-FIVE years ago, I witnessed an atrocity: the deliberate
>>>starvation of German POWs by our own army. History, written by the
>>>victors, suppressed all news of this atrocity until James Bacque, a
>>>Canadian author, published his brilliant expose, OTHER LOSSES. This
>>>book is a best seller in Canada, a sensation in Europe, yet is
>>>virtually unavailable (censored?) in the U.S. Our major booksellers
>>>told me their distributors are not handling it. When I prevailed upon
>>>a small, independent bookstore to order direct from Canada, the
>>>publisher told them they would be the only store in New York State to
>>>carry the book. This in 'the land of the free'?"

>>>Fortunately, Pat Buchanan called attention to OTHER LOSSES in his
>>>January 10, 1990 column. He wrote:

>>>"Conclusion: the U.S. Army killed ten times as many Germans in POW
>>>camps as we did on battlefields from Normandy to V.E. day. (German
>>>POWs) had their rations cut below survival level until they were dying
>>>at rates up to 30% of exposure, starvation and neglect... Red Cross
>>>food trains were turned back and U.S. food shipments sat on the
>>>docks...One French officer said the U.S. camps reminded him of Dachau
>>>and Buchenwald...The book blames Eisenhower. 'The German is a beast,'
>>>Ike had written...But that was not how the Canadians and British felt,
>>>who treated their prisoners justly...It was not the view of General
>>>Mark Clark, nor of Patton...Ignoring the book is not enough."
>>>Pat Buchanan's courageous column inspired me to help end the cover-up
>>>of the atrocity I had witnessed. I wrote letters to several newspapers
>>>which were, of necessity, short and incomplete. Now I would like to
>>>finally free more of my painful memories, hoping to be heard, so that
>>>this will help us to acknowledge our share in the "banality of evil",
>>>cleansing ourselves with the truth. Perhaps we as a nation may then
>>>put this behind us with some integrity and with some hope for
>>>redemption.

>>>In October 1944, at age eighteen, I was drafted into the army while a
>>>student at the NYS College of Forestry. Largely due to the "Battle of
>>>the Bulge", my training was cut short, my furlough cut in half, and I
>>>was then immediately sent overseas. Upon arrival in Le Havre, France,
>>>we were quickly loaded into boxcars and shipped to the front. By the
>>>time we reached it, I had developed mononucleosis severely enough to
>>>be sent to a hospital in Belgium.

>>>By the time I left the hospital, the unit I had trained with in
>>>Spartenburg, South Carolina was so deeply into Germany that I warn
>>>placed in a "repo depo" (a replacement depot) despite my protests. I
>>>then lost interest in which units I was assigned to because non-combat
>>>units were generally not respected. My separation qualification record
>>>states that I served mostly with the 14th Infantry Regiment, during
>>>which time I guarded prisoners of war and served as an interpreter.
>>>During my seventeen month stay in Germany, I was transferred to other
>>>outfits also.

>>>In late March or early April 1945, I was assigned to help guard a POW
>>>camp near Andernach along the Rhine. I had four years of high school
>>>German, so I was able to talk to the prisoners, although this was
>>>forbidden.

>>>Gradually, however, I was used as an interpreter and asked to ferret
>>>out the S.S. (I found none.)

>>>In Andernach, between 50,000 and 65,000 prisoners, ranging in age from
>>>very young teens to very old men, were crowded together in an open
>>>field surrounded by barbed wire. The women were kept in a separate
>>>enclosure which I did not see until later. The men I guarded had no
>>>tents or other shelter, no blankets and many had no coats. Inadequate
>>>numbers of slit trenches were provided for excrement, and so the men
>>>lived and slept in the mud and increasing filth during a cold, wet
>>>spring. Their misery from exposure alone was evident.

>>>It was even more shocking to see them eating grass, sometimes throwing
>>>it into a tin can containing a thin soup. They told me they did this
>>>hoping to ease their hunger pains. Soon their emaciation was evident.
>>>Dysentery raged and, too weak and crowded to reach the slit trenches,
>>>they were increasingly sleeping in excrement. I saw no sign of
>>>provision for water, so the thin soup was their food and water for the
>>>day. Some days there was bread, less than a slice each. Other days
>>>there was nothing.

>>>The sight of so many men desperate for food and water, sickening and
>>>dying before our eyes, is indescribable. Even now, I can only think of
>>>it momentarily.

>>>We had ample food and supplies that could have been shared more
>>>humanely, and we could have offered some medical assistance, but did
>>>nothing. Only the dead were quickly and efficiently taken care of:
>>>hauled away to mass graves.

>>>My outrage reached the point that I protested to my officers, but I
>>>was met with hostility or bland indifference. When pressed, they
>>>explained they were under strict orders from "higher up". No officer
>>>would dare to systematically do this to over 50,000 prisoners if he
>>>felt he was violating general policy and subject to court martial. The
>>>term "war criminal" was just beginning to come into fashion.

>>>Realizing my protests were useless, I asked a friend working in the
>>>kitchen if he could slip me some extra food for the prisoners. He too
>>>repeated that they were under strict orders to severely ration the
>>>prisoners' food, and that these orders came from "higher up". But he
>>>said they had more food than they knew what to do with and would sneak
>>>me some.

>>>When I threw this food over the barbed wires to the prisoners I was
>>>caught and threatened with imprisonment. I repeated the "offense", and
>>>one officer threatened to shoot me. I naturally assumed this was a
>>>bluff, but I began to have some doubts after I encountered a captain
>>>on a hill above the Rhine shooting down at a group of German civilian
>>>women with his .45 caliber pistol. When I asked, "Why?" he mumbled,
>>>"Target practice," and fired until his pistol was empty. I saw the
>>>women running for cover, but, at that distance, couldn't tell if any
>>>had been hit.

>>>This is when I more fully realized I was dealing with some
>>>cold-blooded killers filled with moralistic hatred. They considered
>>>the Germans sub-human and worthy of extermination; another expression
>>>of the downward spiral of racism. Articles in the G.I. newspaper,
>>>Stars & Stripes, played up the Nazi concentration camps, complete with
>>>photographs of emaciated bodies; this amplified our self-righteous
>>>cruelty and made it easier to imitate behavior we were supposed to
>>>oppose. Also, I think, soldiers not exposed to combat were trying to
>>>prove how tough they were by taking it out on the prisoners and
>>>civilians. At least, many combat soldiers told me later they would not
>>>have tolerated this, for they combined hatred with respect for a
>>>courageous enemy.

>>>The prisoners I spoke to were mostly simple farmers and workingmen, as
>>>ignorant, albeit nationalistic, as many of our own troops. I heard
>>>many versions of "my country, right or wrong, my country," which we
>>>still hear in our own country today.

>>>As time went on, many of them lapsed into a Zombie-like state of
>>>listlessness. Others, maddened by thirst, tried to escape in a
>>>desperate or suicidal fashion, running through open fields in broad
>>>daylight towards the Rhine to quench their thirst. They were mowed
>>>down.

>>>Some prisoners were extremely eager for cigarettes, saying they took
>>>the edge off their hunger. Accordingly, some enterprising G.I. "Yankee
>>>traders" were acquiring hordes of wrist watches and rings in exchange
>>>for handfuls of cigarettes or less. When I began throwing cartons of
>>>cigar-ettes to the prisoners to ruin this trade, I found myself
>>>threatened by rank-and-file G.I.s also. At least this taught me an
>>>indelible lesson: how wrong majorities and authorities can be.

>>>A bright spot in this gloomy picture came, oddly enough, one night
>>>when I was put on the "graveyard shift", from two to four A.M.
>>>Actually, there was a graveyard on the uphill side of this enclosure,
>>>not many yards away. My superiors had forgotten to give me a
>>>flashlight and I hadn't bothered to ask, being disgusted with the
>>>whole situation by that time. It was a fairly bright night and I soon
>>>became aware of a prisoner crawling under the wires to the graveyard.
>>>We were supposed to shoot escapees on sight, so I started to get up to
>>>warn him to get back. Suddenly I noticed another prisoner crawling
>>>from the graveyard back to the enclosure. They were risking their
>>>lives to get to the graveyard for something; I had to investigate.

>>>When I entered the gloom of this shrubby, tree-shaded cemetery, I
>>>never felt more vulnerable, but somehow curiosity kept me going.
>>>Despite my caution, I tripped over the legs of someone in a prone
>>>position. Whipping my rifle around while stumbling and trying to
>>>regain composure of mind and body, I soon was relieved I hadn't
>>>reflexively fired. The figure sat up, moving erratically. Gradually I
>>>could see the beautiful but terror-stricken face of a woman with a
>>>picnic basket nearby. German civilians were not allowed to feed, nor
>>>even come near, the prisoners, so I quickly assured her I approved of
>>>what she was doing, not to be afraid, and that I would leave the
>>>graveyard to get out of the way, telling no one.

>>>I left the graveyard as quickly as possible and sat down, leaning
>>>against a tree at the edge CF the cemetary to be inconspicuous and not
>>>frighten the prisoners. I imagined then, and often since, what it
>>>would be like to be a prisoner under those conditions and meet a
>>>beautiful woman with a picnic basket. I never saw her again, but I
>>>have never forgotten her face.

>>>While I watched, more prisoners crawled to and from the enclosure. I
>>>saw they were dragging food back to their comrades and could only
>>>admire their courage and devotion. As I walked back to my quarters at
>>>the end of my shift, a nightingale and I were singing -- both felt a
>>>touch of spring.

>>>(I originally did not intend to reveal the following incident, for it
>>>moves into a realm termed "mystical". However, for me, it was an
>>>extremely significant experience, changing my life, providing a light
>>>no darkness can extinguish. It must be told, hoping it will foster
>>>understanding.)

>>>On May 8, V.E. day, I decided to celebrate with some prisoners I was
>>>guarding who were baking bread, meager amounts of which the other
>>>prisoners occasionally received. This group had all the bread they
>>>could eat, and shared the jovial mood generated by the end of the war.
>>>We all thought we would be going home soon, a pathetic hope on their
>>>part. We were in what was to become the French zone, and I later
>>>witnessed the brutality of the French soldiers when we transferred our
>>>prisoners to them for their slave labor camps (see below).

>>>However, on this day we were happy.

>>>After chatting with them about the potentials of peace for the rest of
>>>our lives, I decided to risk a gesture of trust that objectively would
>>>seem foolish. I emptied my rifle and stood it in the corner. They
>>>tested me further by asking to play with it, and I agreed. Intuitively
>>>I felt I could rely on their sense of honor not to attack me, for they
>>>knew they too were being tested. This thoroughly 'broke the ice', and
>>>soon we were singing songs we taught each other or I had learned in
>>>high school German ("Du, du, liegst mir im Herzen"). Out of gratitude,
>>>they secretly baked a small sweet bread and insisted I take it,
>>>explaining it was the only possible gift they had left to offer.
>>>Expressing my gratitude with a lump in my throat, I put it in my tight
>>>"Eisenhower jacket" so I could sneak it back to my barracks. I later
>>>found an opportunity to eat it outside.

>>>Never had bread tasted more delicious, nor conveyed to me a deeper
>>>sense of communion while eating it. A wonderful feeling pervaded me,
>>>gently opening me to an intimation of the Oneness of all Being.
>>>Through those prisoners I sensed the ~cosmic presence of what has been
>>>called the Christ, Buddha-nature, or, perhaps most aptly, the
>>>Ineffable: cosmically present, but hidden and apparently separate,
>>>until revealed in the wholeness of the giving of the self. Even within
>>>the horror humans had created, I was taught a path to redemption may
>>>open by taking a first, tentative step in the direction of love,
>>>understanding and forgiveness. This above all the prisoners taught me:
>>>not only are we all potentially humane humans, there is divinity
>>>within us waiting for us to dissolve the defensive shield of ego. I
>>>was pleased to discover later the words of Matthew 25:34-46,
>>>expressing the potential within prisoners and all who are at our
>>>mercy.

>>>Shortly after this experience I was plunged into even greater horror.
>>>Some of our weak and sickly prisoners were being marched off by French
>>>soldiers to their camp. The truck we were on first passed another
>>>truck picking up bodies along the side of the road, and then came up
>>>behind a slowly moving column of men. Temporarily we slowed down and
>>>remained behind, perhaps because the driver was as shocked as I was.
>>>The French soldiers were apparently incensed at the poor condition of
>>>our prisoners, not only for labor but for marching to another camp.
>>>Whenever a prisoner staggered or dropped back, the French clubbed him
>>>to death and then dragged him to the side of the road. For many, this
>>>quick death might have been preferable to their prolonged suffering.
>>>Even gas would have been more merciful than our murder by neglect in
>>>our slow 'killing fields'.

>>>When I saw the German women held in a separate enclosure, I asked why
>>>we were keeping them. I was told they were "camp followers", selected
>>>as breeding stock for the S.S. to create a super-race. We provided
>>>them with tents but they were extremely hungry. I spoke to some and
>>>must say they were still spirited and attractive. However, I believe I
>>>was objective enough when I told all concerned that I didn't think
>>>they deserved our treatment.

>>>As an interpreter, I was able to prevent some particularly unfortunate
>>>arrests. One somewhat amusing incident occurred during a pre-dawn raid
>>>we conducted on a town to discover Nazis or arms. An old farmer was
>>>being dragged away by some soldiers. I was told he had a "fancy Nazi
>>>medal", which they showed to me. Fortunately, I had a chart
>>>identifying such medals. He had been awarded it for having five or
>>>more children! Perhaps his wife was somewhat relieved to get him "off
>>>her back", but I didn't think one of our 'death camps' was a fair
>>>punishment for his contribution to Germany. The soldiers agreed and
>>>released him to continue his "dirty work".

>>>Famine was spreading amongst German civilians also. It was a common
>>>sight to see German women up to their elbows in our garbage cans
>>>looking for something edible -- that is, when they weren't chased
>>>away.

>>>When I interviewed mayors of small towns and villages, I was told
>>>their supply of food had been taken away by "displaced persons"
>>>(foreigners who had worked in Germany), who packed the food on trucks
>>>and drove away. When I reported this, the response was a shrug or an
>>>expression of helplessness.

>>>Although the Red Cross coffee and doughnut stands were available
>>>everywhere for us, I never saw any Red Cross in the prison camps or
>>>helping the civilians. While my girlfriend had all the "contraband"
>>>doughnuts she could eat, most Germans had to share their meager hidden
>>>stores and wait until the next harvest.

>>>This hunger undoubtedly made many German women more "available", but,
>>>despite this, rape was incredibly prevalent and often accompanied by
>>>additional violence. I particularly remember a charming eighteen year
>>>old girl who had several unsuccessful suitors and was "just friends"
>>>with me, who had the side of her face smashed with a rifle butt and
>>>was then raped by two G.I.s. The casual shooting of German civilians
>>>also continued, usually by drunken soldiers who would tell of this as
>>>something amusing. All too many G.I.s gave the impression they were
>>>1ike animals released from cages, free to do what they liked because
>>>they were dealing with yet a lower species of animal, a reverse
>>>racism, inflamed by our propaganda. However, even the French
>>>complained to me that our rape and drunken destructive behavior in
>>>their country was excessive. When we had arrived in Le Havre, we had
>>>been given booklets instructing us that the Germans had maintained a
>>>high standard of behavior with French civilians who were peaceful, and
>>>that we should do the same. In this we failed miserably.

>>>So what? we might still say. The enemies' atrocities were worse than
>>>ours. Certainly my experiences were only of the last phases of the
>>>war, when we were already clearly the victors. The Nazi opportunity
>>>for atrocities had faded and ours was unleashed. But we might have
>>>learned the simple lesson that two wrongs do not make a right. Perhaps
>>>we might even have broken the cycle of vengeful retaliation and
>>>unbridled hatred, fed by racism, that has plagued human history and
>>>blighted human potential all to long. Instead, we committed our own
>>>atrocities and now are clinging to a cover-up. That is why I am
>>>speaking out now, forty-five years after the crime. We can never
>>>prevent individual war crimes, but we can, if enough of us speak out,
>>>influence government policy. We can reject government propaganda that
>>>depicts our enemies as subhuman and encourages the kinds of outrages I
>>>witnessed. We can protest the bombing of civilian targets, which still
>>>goes on today. (I will never forget the sickly sweet smell of rotting
>>>human flesh rising from the shattered remains of the cities and towns
>>>I entered.) And we can refuse ever to condone our government' s murder
>>>of unarmed and defeated prisoners of war.

>>>I realized it's difficult to admit witnessing a crime of this
>>>magnitude, especially if implicated oneself. Even G.I .s sympathetic
>>>to the victims told me they were afraid to oppose so massive a policy
>>>that would surely seek to cover its tracks. I never heard this
>>>directly from an officer, but it was the belief of the rank-and-file
>>>G.I.s I spoke to that we were not to "talk" because, first, no one
>>>would believe us, and second, we would surely get into trouble. They
>>>all insisted it was better not to talk, and slowly I too realized it
>>>would be futile and dangerous. That is, until now, thanks to James
>>>Bacque and Pat Buchanan. This is not to say the danger has passed.
>>>Since I "spoke out" recently, my mailbox has been smashed and I have
>>>received threatening phone calls. But I believe it is worth the risk.
>>>Writing about these atrocities has been a catharsis of feelings
>>>suppressed too long, a liberation, and perhaps will remind other
>>>witnesses and citizens -that "the truth shall make us free, have no
>>>fear." And, in any case, "the truth shall out".

>>>We may even learn a supreme lesson from all this: Hate is
>>>self-destructive; only love can conquer and evolve all as One.

>>>Martin Brech
>>>(Adjunct Professor,
>>>Philosophy & Religion,
>>>Mercy College;
>>>Ex-G.I., Finally Free)
>>>Martin Brech, 187 Archer Road, Mahopac, NY 10541, Tel.: 914-628-6301

>>>James Bacque: Did the Allies starve millions of Germans?


>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article...


Ken McVay from Nizkor seems to actually deny that something like death
camps for Germans even existed or that Germans were deliberately
starved to death (Rheinwiesenlager).
http://www.rheinwiesenlager.de/

He himself is some kind of "Holocaust Denier", when it comes to German
suffering.
Note that Nizkor virtually doesn't mention any German suffering:
http://www.nizkor.org/other-sites/genocides.html
No mentioning of Germans at all. But after all, why bother about those
subhumans that according to Nizkor and related sources "gassed millions of
Jews"?!


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just  to
justify his existence to his ZYD masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZYD COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZYDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZYDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.



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Notice that there has been a pleasant absence of the vile frothings of the
nazi Dezi Cohen, alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

Could it be that Paris welfare finally said to this criminal from the UK -
merde, vas y!!

>>From: Vishnu - destroyer of Nazi Coughlan's support of the Shoah
>>
>>Newsgroups:
>>alt.activism.death-penalty,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.palestine
>>Subject: Re: Dezi gets Close + Personal With Noles Who Exposed Him as Nazi
>>-IS DEZI NOW DECEASED?
>>Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:28:24 -0700
>>Message-ID: <9sijt1tdg1ktia15foc8du20r2invdl53n@4ax.com>
>>References: <7ADACBFC38741.6028240741@twistycreek.com>
>><1138284284.559780.288030@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

>>On 26 Jan 2006 06:04:44 -0800, "Philippe 'Suffer the little children to come
>>onto me and give me a blowjob' KKKoughlan " 
>>after lovingly laving his tongue around the lips of his bust to Hitler wrote:

>>>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/
>>Oh, my... KKKoughlan is again displaying his affection for Grosvenor.
>>Arguing between themselves as to who hates the Jews more.  The fight
>>is on... and the votes are now being cast.  Does Grosvenor or KKKoughlan
>>hate the Jews more?

>>Think KKK doesn't hate the Jews?  Think again.  This is just a short list
>>of his past comments demonstrating his support for Nazi doctrine and
>>the "innocence" (sic) of every Nazi --

>>His words -- "The issue is whether or not, the Nazis, in declaring
>>Jews 'inhuman', were acting illegally.  They were not."  See --
>>http://groups.google.fr/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/8fcc1c8e5cb0f3d3
>>Him finding that it is LEGAL to declare the Jews as "inhuman."

>>His words -- "The Holocaust was 'a just execution for those found
>>guilty of being Jewish'."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/9e47adb28f22faaf
>>
>>His words -- "even Auschwitz would not execute a 72-year-old man..."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/2e39751aaf992176
>>Insisting that Auschwitz was "more humane" than California.  And one elder
>>murderers is more valuable than every elderly Jewish victim of the Holocaust.
>>
>>His words -- "'The Holocaust' is a term used to refer to the legal execution
>>of 6,000,000 Jews in the Second World War."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/88e428e1da2cf26f
>>
>>His words -- "the attempted extermination of the Jews was legal..."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/0a0dee548a7e68d6
>>
>>His words -- "if it's legal, it's moral, Jed"  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/4e24f3730b022c53
>>Him finding it MORAL to find the Jews "legally inhuman" and MORAL
>>to kill six million of them.
>>
>>His words -- "Are we to accept the word of a committee, bent
>>on revenge, which in itself violated the human rights of the Nazis ? See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/944deb89e3e1b631
>>
>>His words posted with a slap in the face to the contributions of Simon
>>Wiesenthal -- 
>>"At the same time, let no one forget that the kidnap and hanging of Eichmann,
>>was a crime under international law."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7acc13b56d18263c
>>Essentially calling Simon Wiesenthal both a kidnapper and complicit in what
>>KKK insists was the "murder by lynching" of Eichmann.
>>
>>In respect to the question -- "Should Maurice Papon still be imprisoned ?"
>>His words -- "Isn't there room for mercy ?  For the sure knowledge that this
>>91-year-  old man, isn't in a position to harm anyone."
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/5d44b6c90151f6c4
>>And then begging everyone to forgive every Nazi... because he insist it's been
>>60 years.
>>
>>His words -- "German society said that the extermination of the Jews
>>was a moral, legal, ethical thing to do ..."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/6028d5703b310f29
>>Blaming every German for the Holocaust, in the most bigoted
>>and hateful comment ever directed against ALL of "German society."
>>He might as well have said -- "Every German was a Nazi guard in an
>>Eastern European extermination camp."  Since his comment means
>>just the same.  A large part of the German population of that time
>>might well have supported various anti-Semitic practices, but the
>>idea that "German society" supported the HOLOCAUST as a
>>"moral, legal, ethical thing to do," is an obscenity on the part of KKK.
>>It is a racist comment, unparalleled by hardly any other racist comment
>>made in AADP.
>>
>>His words -- "In the absolute, the Nazi Holocaust and the death penalty
>>are perfect equivalents, both morally and legally."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/09343f66a6cea661
>>In his words reducing six million innocent Jewish victims murdered in a few
>>short years to no better than a thousand proven murderers executed in more
>>than 25 years.  The fact is the life expectancy of a Jew setting foot in
>>Treblinka was measured in minutes.  Yet he insists that "morally and legally"
>>this was in the absolute no different than the execution of any murderer,
>>making each and every Jew setting foot on Treblinka the same as a proven
>>murderer.
>>
>>His words -- "Europe has not had a war now since 1945, and in
>>matters of morals, has led the world for over two thousand years."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/969ba9ff6d41a2e4
>>A truly bizarre comment from him, which argues that all wars in Europe
>>for the past 2000 years were fought for moral principles.  In addition to
>>him claiming the Holocaust was moral.  And concluding with that
>>obligatory reference to Christ, to support his hate for the Jews, who
>>he insists were responsible for that death those 2000 years ago, with
>>his words -- " Educated Americans are insanely jealous of Europe,
>>for it is on this continent that human rights, philosophy, thought, and
>>science, has been a beacon to the world since the time of Christ."
>>
>>Notice that he DARED to mention "human rights," given the bloody
>>past of Europe and so much hate for the Jews.   The persecution for
>>those 2000 years, the pogroms, the ghettoization, the blaming of the
>>Jews for every ill having befallen Europe in those 2000 years, the
>>crusades of killing Jews, and finally the attempt to exterminate the
>>Jews.  All part of what he argued was the "bright beacon of morality"
>>in Europe during what he insists was "it's Golden age of persecution
>>of the Jews."    Yeah... Americans are in awe and
>>insanely jealous of how perverse and methodically efficient Europeans
>>were at blaming the Jews for all of Europe's problems and dispatching
>>them with such religious fervor during those 2000 years.  Let's all
>>give a big cheer for Jesus 'motherfucker' Christ...the name lent to
>>being responsible as the greatest mass murderer of all time... but
>>KKKoughlan's hero.
>>
>>His words in a very direct insult to the Jews of today -- "yet by
>>milking those terrible events for all they are worth, 60 years later, Israel
>>and World Jewry are only cutting their noses, to spite their face."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/c2ef9625017cc935
>>A comment from him filled with insults toward anyone who would
>>express a pro-Jewish comment of any kind, insisting that being 
>>pro-Jewish means being too biased to actually have a view that
>>is less than 150% pro-Jewish.  Essentially insulting every Jew
>>living today.
>>
>>His words -- "certain sections of the Jewish community use the Shoah to
>>justify their own excesses."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/e18cca69bc258b4f
>>His argument presumes that the Arab community needs no excuse to
>>justify their own excesses.
>>
>>His words -- "Make up your mind: either the Holocaust was mass murder, in
>>which case, so is the death penalty, or the death penalty is 'just', in 
>>which case, so was the extermination of the Jews.   See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/b8c995d30833c827
>>Which is undoubtedly the most ignorantly contrived attempt at pseudo-logic
>>ever witnessed in AADP.  Since the proposition is only true if one equates
>>convicted murderers as the same as innocent Jews.  But looking beyond
>>that his argument is that every person who find the death penalty for
>>even a single murderer, even those such as John Wayne Gacy, or Ted
>>Bundy, or Kenneth McDuff, to be "just," by his definition must also find
>>the Holocaust to have been "just."
>>
>>His words in denial of anti-Semitism in Europe but insisting that the
>>Jews of Israel are anti-Semitic -- "However, it's fatuous to claim that Europe
>>is 'anti-Semitic', based on the number of 'anti-Semitic' events that take
>>place.  If that were the only criterion, then Israel would be the most
>>anti-Semitic country on the planet."  See -- 
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/39504e62ed6562a9
>>Hoping to redefine the meaning of anti-Semitism in the English language
>>and excuse the anti-Semitism of Muslims at the same time.
>>
>>He defended the words of the French ambassador to England, Daniel
>>Bernard, who referred to Israel as "that shitty little country."  In his
>>post that grew hysterical in accusations against the Jews of Israel
>>and defended that perverse comment.  One of his comments in
>>that blast of anti-Semitic raving from him was -- "Israel does not need to
>>kill children, to ensure its survival.  Israel does not need to target the
>>innocent families of suicide bombers, to ensure its survival.  Israel does
>>not need to engage in daily humiliation of innocent men and women, to
>>ensure its survival.  The current policies will hurt Israel more in the
>>long run, than they will help it.  Sharon came to power on a security
>>'ticket', and his brutal repression of the Palestinian people, has _not_
>>ensured the security of Israel and her citizens."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/4d4ec92a10b91a76
>>Of course you will notice the one-sided argument offered in which he
>>excuses children being taught to become suicide bombers to kill
>>innocent Jews.  Forgetting that Arafat came to power on a "kill every
>>Jew" ticket.  As he also admits he is "anti-Jewish government."
>>
>>He claimed the Jews were quite possibly responsible for 9/11.  His
>>words -- "I'd put my money on either Israel, or Pakistan being behind the
>>attacks."  While attempting to totally absolve bin Laden as innocent.  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/ca5cddf2d27b074d
>>
>>Of course he also screamed in rage that -- "No one is 'BORN' (sic) a Jew, you
>>spagmerchant."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7ecf6157652669e5
>>
>>But when it came to providing what he considered "proof" of him being
>>Jewish, he stated --  "I don't believe in God ... but I was 'born Jewish.'
>>See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/e7e8dbd3116d2dc6
>>
>> And how many here... even those who would call him a "friend," have said they
>>believe he is Jewish?  The answer is ZERO.  Even when I cajole them for an
>>answer.
>>While nine have come out and stated here that they do not believe he is
>>Jewish.  All we have is his raving claim, even going so far as to insist he
>>"wears the yellow star" as an insult to the true victims of the Holocaust, and
>>even going so far as to call himself a Rabbi in the use of a handle in AADP,
>>while laughing at the joke he believe he is playing on AADP and the Jews in
>>using that handle.  The fact is well-known that he makes a joke out of playing
>>the role of a Jew, in order to turn the tragedy of the Holocaust into his
>>personal comic parody.
>>
>>And of course we have John Rennie's comment regarding the personal
>>conversation he had with Coughlan when Coughlan admitted he was not Jewish.
>>His words in the same BLOCK LETTERS he posted here -- "DESMOND
>>UNEQUIVOCALLY CONFIRMED TO ME THAT HE WAS NOT
>>JEWISH.   AT THE TIME OF OUR MEETING HE THOUGHT IT A
>>GREAT JOKE AND HE STILL DOES. HE IS NOT JEWISH, HE WAS
>>NOT BORN JEWISH, HE DOES NOT HAVE JEWISH ANCESTRY,
>>HE DOES NOT PRACTICE THE JEWISH RELIGION."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/92c993bba5d24130
>>
>>Planet Visitor II 
>>http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/dict.html
>>
>>KKKoughlan's words -- ""send that 16-year-old niece of yours around to 
>>give me a blowjob whenever I want one." See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/8db6438f040c09bf
>>
>>Perhaps the gentle reader is not aware of KKKoughlan's own feeling as to
>>who he considers a "CHILD."  If so, let me provide KKKoughlan's own
>>words of who he feels is a "CHILD."  His words -- ""the term 'child' isn't
>>defined by you and your NRA buddies.  It's defined in international law,
>>and a 17 year old is a child until his eighteenth birthday."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/msg/a1b77a27fe4c6928
>>
>>KKKoughlan... a self-admitted pedophile.



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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:14:14 -0700, VicRCurious@hotmail.com wrote:

Not only in Canada are the Russian ZYD Mafia making false claims as
alleged "REFUGEES" from israel, just so they can jump the queue for
immigration, as well as being parasites on the taxpayers of the host
countries!!

Just ask taxpayers in Australia and New Zealand about their Israelis!


>On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:36:26 -0700, Frank Arthur 
>wrote:
>
>>In a banner headline story on the front page of the issue of Canadian
>>Jew News for January 18 2007, is a huge story detailing how Israelis
>>are filing fraudulent claims as "REFUGEES", to jump the immigration
>>queues, and get into Canada.
>>
>>Even the Embassy in Canada for Israel is enraged about these false
>>claims, usually made by people who emigrated to Israel from the former
>>Soviet Union. They state categorically that these claims are
>>spurious!!
>>
>>The Israeli newspaper Ha'Aretz had a feature story in their issue for
>>31 December 2006. The article claimed that in year 2005 there were 679
>>claims as refugees made by these criminals, with many of these false
>>claims made to Canadian authorities.
>>
>>Canadian Jew News claims that 369 claims were made by Israelis
>>claiming refugee status in the 9 months from January to September 2006
>>alone!!
>>
>>The crooked Canadian Refugee people allowed 91 of these criminals to
>>stay in Canada at taxpayer expense!! In fact Israel has made the top
>>10 list of source countries for people claiming refugee status in the
>>first 3 quarters of 2006!!
>>
>>In fact, since 2000, almost 3,000 Israelis have claimed refugee
>>status, so that they can stay in Canada and live off Canadian
>>taxpayers with their fraudulent claims.



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On 29 Aug 2006 11:46:41 -0700, in can.politics "Russ"
 wrote:

JEWISH CRIME

"Of all the areas of Jewish enterprise," notes Gerald Krafetz, "none
has been so overlooked as the field of crime. And it isn't because of
a lack of Jewish criminality. For an introspective people, this
oversight is significant. It is as if Jewish crime did not exist, an
unsavory skeleton is best left in the family closet ... The
sociopathology of Jews is not an acceptable notion since it runs
counter to both religious precepts and preconceived ideas that Jews
have of themselves." [KREFETZ, p. 112] "Jews were ... involved in many
of the most visible and spectacular frauds of the post-Civil War
period," notes Benjamin Ginsberg, "as well as in economic dislocations
and financial manipulations that characterize the era." [GINSBERG, p.
75] In one much publicized scandal for instance, the Jewish governor
of South Carolina, Franklin Moses, oversaw the issue and selling of $6
million in fraudulent state securities, as well as funneling hundreds
of thousands of dollars in public funds into his own pocket.
[GINSBERG, p. 75]

In a broader financial sphere, very visibly at the top of the socio-
economic pyramid, Jewish businessman Joseph Seligman's nefarious
activities in the late 1800s helped to create the infamous "Black
Friday" stock market crash.  Benjamin Ginsberg notes that the crash

"ruined thousands of investors, implicated President Grant, and led to
a Congressional investigation of [Jay] Gould and Seligman ...
Similarly, in the early 1890s, Jacob Schiff collaborated with E. H.
Harriman in the latter's attempts to wrest control of the Northern
Pacific Railroad from J. P. Morgan and James Hill ... When the price
of the Northern Pacific Stock collapsed, the entire market crashed in
the notorious 'Black Thursday' panic that led to a nationwide economic
depression." [GINZBURG, p. 73]

In 1885 the French-based project to build the Panama Canal collapsed,
resulting in financial scandal that led, in part, to Seligman again.

"Both the United States Congress and the French Parliament had
inquiries," says Ginsberg, "In both countries major Jewish financiers
were implicated: Baron Jacques de Reinach in Paris and Joseph Seligman
in the United States. Many shareholders lost everything, but Seligman
lost nothing. In contemporary parlance, the Seligmans engaged in
influence peddling, insider trading, and corporate asset stripping and
looting -- all at the expense of credulous investors." [GINZBURG, p.
74] The French end of the Panama Canal scandals, notes Albert
Lindemann, "involved large amounts of French capital and threatened
national prestige -- and Jewish agents were deeply involved. The
intermediaries between the Panama company and parliament were almost
exclusively Jews with German names and backgrounds, some of whom tried
to blackmail one another." [LINDEMANN, p. 87]


continued at
http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/09crime.htm



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On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:14:51 -0400, in soc.culture.usa "serwad"
 wrote:

Provided By:  The Associated Press
Last Modified: 9/1/2006 12:38:12 PM

ATLANTA (AP) -- An employee of Israel's consulate in Atlanta was arrested
Thursday on charges that he used the Internet to try to lure a minor into
having sex.

Yosef Sagiv Ofri was indicted by a grand jury in Columbia County yesterday.

District Attorney Daniel Craig of Augusta says the 37-year-old Ofri was
arrested at about 7:30 a.m. outside his home in DeKalb County, near Atlanta.

Craig says authorities also obtained a warrant to search Ofri's home, 
according to a statement from Craig's office.

The indictment says that Ofri used e-mail and online messages to lure a  child
>from Columbia County-about two hours east of Atlanta-for "illegal acts
relating to sodomy, aggravated sodomy, child molestation and aggravated  child
molestation."

Captain Steve Morris of the Columbia County Sheriff's office said Ofri works
for the Israeli Consulate in Atlanta.

He said officials from the consulate visited with Ofri today at the county's
detention center, where he is being held.

The Jerusalem Post reports that Ofri is a security officer with the 
consulate and carries an Israeli diplomatic passport. 


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On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:21:11 -0400, in soc.culture.usa "serwad"
 wrote:

Israeli diplomat arrested on suspicion of pedophilia
An Israeli diplomat, Yosef Sagiv, was arrested Friday in the American city  of
Atlanta on suspicion of computer related offences linked to pornography  and
the sexual exploitation of children.

This sort of thing seems to happen a lot with Israeli diplomats.
Sex Scandal Past Haunts New Envoy 
The Strange Case of the Disappearing Diplomat 
Israel Has Second Thoughts on Consul
Israeli Consul in Nude Picture Storm
Australia Consul Appointment Reviewed
Diplomat Said to Unnerve Women
Jewish Diplomat Involved in Child Prostitution Scandal
Brazil Links Israeli Consul to Child Prostitution
Wanted Israeli Diplomat Flees Brazil
The Principal Villains of Brasilian Pedofilia Crimes
Brazilian Police Stake Out Diplomat Accused of Running Kiddie-Porn Ring 




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Subject: Wish To Dispose of Dealer Stock-$3 Million CV Stamp Collections-
Verkauf/Tausch $3 Millionen BiefmarkenSammlungen

We seek a buyer of all our stock, for cash payable to our bankers.
Approximately $3 million CV, with main areas of interest:
GB
Canada
Germany
Commonwealth
France
USA
Australia
Austria
Switzerland
Israel
etc.

If interested, kindly advise.
The reason for sale, eyesight going blind. 
Ich verliere meine Sict,und gehe Blinde.
Am NOT interested in consigning, or auction, only full cash sale.

We mean CASH for the buyer to take all, not cheques, drafts, or whatever.
May consider part swap for something significant, such as clear title cottage,
motorhome, or?
Am located in northern Canada.

Reply to: JoeBlough@operamail.com

P.S. Nigerian Scam and similar just disregarded as worthless.




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And never forget the prominente ZYD KOLLABORACI, such as KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI,
AND WIESENTHAL!!


On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:25:22 +1000, "Benja'min"  wrote:

>Fundamental Features of the Proposal of the National Military Organization
>in Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi) Concerning
>the Solution of the Jewish Question
>in Europe and
>the Participation of the NMO in the War
>on the Side of Germany
>(1941)

>From Lenni Brenner: The Iron Wall, London 1984, pp.195-197.

>Transcribed and marked up by Einde O'Callaghan for REDS - Die Roten.

>It is often stated in the speeches and utterances of the leading statesmen
>of National Socialist Germany that a prerequisite of the New Order in Europe
>requires the radical solution of the Jewish question through evacuation
>("Jew-free Europe").

>The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
>solving the Jewish question; but this can only be made possible and complete
>through the settlement of these masses in the home of the Jewish people,
>Palestine, and through the establishment of a Jewish state in its historic
>boundaries.

>The solving in this manner of the Jewish problem, thus bringing with it once
>and for all the liberation of the Jewish people, is the objective of the
>political activity and the years-long struggle of the Israeli freedom
>movement, the National Military Organization (Irgun Zvai Leumi) in
>Palestine.

>The NMO, which is well-acquainted with the goodwill of the German Reich
>government and its authorities towards Zionist activity inside Germany and
>towards Zionist emigration plans, is of the opinion that:

>Common interests could exist between the establishment of a new order in
>Europe in conformity with the German concept, and the true national
>aspirations of the Jewish people as they are embodied by the NMO.
>Cooperation between the new Germany and a renewed folkish-national Hebraium
>would be possible and,
>The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be in the
>interest of a maintained and strengthened future German position of power in
>the Near East.
>Proceeding from these considerations, the NMO in Palestine, under the
>condition the above-mentioned national aspirations of the Israeli freedom
>movement are recognized on the side of the German Reich, offers to actively
>lake part in the war on Germany's side.

>This offer by the NMO, covering activity in the military, political and
>information fields, in Palestine and, according to our determined
>preparations, outside Palestine, would be connected to the military training
>and organizing of Jewish manpower in Europe, under the leadership and
>command of the NMO. These military units would take part in the fight to
>conquer Palestine, should such a front be decided upon.

>The indirect participation of the Israeli freedom movement in the New Order
>in Europe, already in the preparatory stage, would be linked with a
>positive-radical solution of the European Jewish problem in conformity with
>the above-mentioned national aspirations of the Jewish people. This would
>extraordinarily strengthen the moral basis of the New Order in the eyes of
>all humanity.

>The cooperation of the Israeli freedom movement would also be along the
>lines of one of the last speeches of the German Reich Chancellor, in which
>Herr Hitler emphasized that he would utilize every combination and coalition
>in order to isolate and defeat England.

>A brief general view of the formation, essence, and activity of the NMO in
>Palestine:

>The NMO developed partly out of the Jewish self-defense in Palestine and the
>Revisionist movement (New Zionist Organization), with which the NMO was
>loosely connected through the person of Mr. V. Jabotinsky until his death.

>The pro-English attitude of the Revisionist Organization in Palestine, which
>prevented the renewal of the personal union, led in the autumn of this year
>to a complete break between it and the NMO as well as to a thereupon
>following split in the Revisionist movement.

>The goal of the NMO is the establishment of the Jewish state within its
>historic borders.

>The NMO, in contrast to all Zionist trends, rejects colonizatory
>infiltration as the only means of making accessible and gradually taking
>possession of the fatherland and practices its slogan, the struggle and the
>sacrifice, as the only true means for the conquest and liberation of
>Palestine.

>On account of its militant character and its anti-English disposition the
>NMO is forced, under constant persecutions by the English administration, to
>exercise its political activity and the military training of its members in
>Palestine in secret.

>The NMO, whose terrorist activities began as early as the autumn of the year
>1936, became, after the publication of the British White Papers, especially
>prominent in the summer of 1939 through successful intensification of its
>terroristic activity and sabotage of English properly. At that lime these
>activities, as well as daily secret radio broadcasts, were noticed and
>discussed by virtually the entire world press.

>The NMO maintained independent political offices in Warsaw, Paris. London
>and New York until the beginning of the war.

>The office in Warsaw was mainly concerned with the military organization and
>training of the national Zionist youth and was closely connected with the
>Jewish masseswho, especially in Poland, sustained and enthusiastically
>supported, in every manner, the fight of the NMO in Palestine. Two
>newspapers were published in Warsaw (The Deed and Liberated Jerusalem):
>these were organs of the NMO.

>The office in Warsaw maintained close relations with the former Polish
>government and those military circles, who brought greatest sympathy and
>understanding towards the aims of the NMO. Thus, in the year 1939 selected
>groups of NMO members were sent from Palestine to Poland, where their
>military training was completed in barracks by Polish officers.

>The negotiations, for the purpose of activating and concertizing their aid,
>took place between the NMO and the Polish government in Warsaw - the
>evidence of which can easily be found in the archives of the former Polish
>government - were terminated because of the beginning of the war.

>The NMO is closely related to the totalitarian movements of Europe in its
>ideology and structure.

>The fighting capacity of the NMO could never be paralyzed or seriously
>weakened, neither through strong defensive measures by the English
>administration and the Arabs, nor by those of the Jewish socialists.



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On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:38:05 GMT, in can.politics "Kaholicious"
 wrote:

That's probably true -- that Cipal Golan quickly skuttled off to Israel after
that Gov. McGreevey scandal broke in the U.S. a couple years back

"AlX"  wrote in message
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>
> The main reason that world Jewry wants Israel to exist -  tho many
> Jews are not willing to live there - is as a refuge for Jewish
> fugitives
> from around the world.  If a Jewish crook is able to make it to
> Israel, he is home free.  Israel will not extradite a Jew to any
> other country to face criminal charges - not even to the U.S.
> without whose support Israel would not even exist.

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Israeli 9/11 Crook Flees with $57 Million to Israel

> http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=91721

> Jacob "Kobi" Alexander, the Israeli founder of Comverse Technology,
> one of the leading Mossad companies involved in the terror attacks has
> fled justice in the United States and escaped to Israel with at least
> $57 million of ill-gotten gains.

> As todays New York Times reports:

> New York - Describing a brazen scheme to manipulate the granting of
> options, federal prosecutors have charged three former executives of
> Comverse Technology with mail fraud, securities fraud and wire fraud.

> In charging the former executives on Tuesday, prosecutors said they
> had used fictitious employees to create a secret slush fund of options
> to be distributed to favored employees.

> The former chief executive, Jacob Alexander, who had built Comverse
> into a $1 billion leader in the communications software market, did
> not appear in court and is believed to have fled to Germany or Israel,
> according to a person briefed on the investigation. A warrant was
> issued for his arrest.

> Alexander is highly regarded in Israel, where he once owned a stake in
> a Tel Aviv professional basketball team and where Comverse has
> extensive business operations.

> In late July, he wired $57 million to an account in Israel, according
> to court filings from the Justice Department. Millions more are
> believed to remain in his accounts in the United States, which
> prosecutors have asked to be frozen.

> http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/10/business/options.php

> (End of quote)

> Kobi Alexander should be arrested and interrogated about his knowledge
> of the events of 9/11. His company acquired the other Mossad firm,
> Odigo, shortly after it was revealed that Odigo employees had been
> forewarned of the attacks on the World Trade Center.

> This is the tip of the Israeli criminal mafia who is behind the terror
> attacks on 9/11.

> Here is a relevant section from one of my articles about Mossad's
> involvement in 9/11, which I posted on RMN on April 7, 2005:

> At least two Israel-based employees of Odigo received warnings of an
> imminent attack in New York City more than two hours before the first
> plane hit the WTC. Odigo had its U.S. headquarters two blocks from the
> WTC. The Odigo employees, however, did not pass the warning on to the
> authorities in New York City, a move that could have saved thousands
> of lives.

> Odigo has a feature called People Finder that allows users to seek out
> and contact others based on certain demographics, such as Israeli
> nationality.

> Two weeks after 9/11, Alex Diamandis, Odigo's vice president,
> reportedly said, "It was possible that the attack warning was
> broadcast to other Odigo members, but the company has not received
> reports of other recipients of the message."

> The Internet address of the sender was given to the FBI, and two
> months later it was reported that the FBI was still investigating the
> matter. There have been no media reports since.

> Odigo, like many Israeli software companies, is based and has its
> Research and Development (R&D) center in Herzliya, Israel, the small
> town north of Tel Aviv, which happens to be where Mossad's
> headquarters are located.

> Shortly after 9/11, Odigo was taken over by Comverse Technology,
> another Israeli company. Within a year, five executives from Comverse
> were reported to have profited by more than $267 million from "insider
> trading."

> http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=68985

> Kobi Alexander the Israeli crook who owned the Mossad companies who
> had clear foreknowledge of the terror attacks of 9/11. Alexander
> transferred $57 million to Israel and fled to Israel as a fugitive
> from justice. Why didn't the police arrest him before he was able to
> get away? Who warned him and allowed him to flee? This man is
> connected to the terror attacks of 9/11.





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On Sun, 20 August 2006  08:54:37 -0700, Ken McVaySOBC
wrote:

This is more than true, if you read the book "OTHER LOSSES" by
Bacque!

It seems that those who were involved in this gencoide after the war,
tried hard to suppress news about their crimes, and many of the
victims died, fearing harm to their families if they told the truth.

Now, with more and more survivors willing to testify, including some
of the US military involved, the truth is being substantiated!


>>>On 13 Dec 2004 01:34:52 -0800, "Schorsch"  wrote:
>>>Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>> In article <1102789129.632939.294380@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>>> Schorsch  wrote:
>> >Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People
>> >Measures for the Devastation of the Heart of Europe

>>> Was there some point you wished to make?

>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article...

>>>Subject: Es Stimmt-Ike's Death Camps for Germans!!

>>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting 
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still 
>>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the 
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all 
>>>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>>Here is the latest.......

>>>From: cmsahe@excite.com (Carlos cmsahe)
>>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.europe
>>>Subject: "Ike"'s Death camps
>>>Date: 18 Feb 2002 07:43:47 -0800

>>>A U.S. PRISON GUARD AT ONE OF "IKE'S DEATH CAMPS"

>>>By Martin Brech

>>>FORTY-FIVE years ago, I witnessed an atrocity: the deliberate
>>>starvation of German POWs by our own army. History, written by the
>>>victors, suppressed all news of this atrocity until James Bacque, a
>>>Canadian author, published his brilliant expose, OTHER LOSSES. This
>>>book is a best seller in Canada, a sensation in Europe, yet is
>>>virtually unavailable (censored?) in the U.S. Our major booksellers
>>>told me their distributors are not handling it. When I prevailed upon
>>>a small, independent bookstore to order direct from Canada, the
>>>publisher told them they would be the only store in New York State to
>>>carry the book. This in 'the land of the free'?"

>>>Fortunately, Pat Buchanan called attention to OTHER LOSSES in his
>>>January 10, 1990 column. He wrote:

>>>"Conclusion: the U.S. Army killed ten times as many Germans in POW
>>>camps as we did on battlefields from Normandy to V.E. day. (German
>>>POWs) had their rations cut below survival level until they were dying
>>>at rates up to 30% of exposure, starvation and neglect... Red Cross
>>>food trains were turned back and U.S. food shipments sat on the
>>>docks...One French officer said the U.S. camps reminded him of Dachau
>>>and Buchenwald...The book blames Eisenhower. 'The German is a beast,'
>>>Ike had written...But that was not how the Canadians and British felt,
>>>who treated their prisoners justly...It was not the view of General
>>>Mark Clark, nor of Patton...Ignoring the book is not enough."
>>>Pat Buchanan's courageous column inspired me to help end the cover-up
>>>of the atrocity I had witnessed. I wrote letters to several newspapers
>>>which were, of necessity, short and incomplete. Now I would like to
>>>finally free more of my painful memories, hoping to be heard, so that
>>>this will help us to acknowledge our share in the "banality of evil",
>>>cleansing ourselves with the truth. Perhaps we as a nation may then
>>>put this behind us with some integrity and with some hope for
>>>redemption.

>>>In October 1944, at age eighteen, I was drafted into the army while a
>>>student at the NYS College of Forestry. Largely due to the "Battle of
>>>the Bulge", my training was cut short, my furlough cut in half, and I
>>>was then immediately sent overseas. Upon arrival in Le Havre, France,
>>>we were quickly loaded into boxcars and shipped to the front. By the
>>>time we reached it, I had developed mononucleosis severely enough to
>>>be sent to a hospital in Belgium.

>>>By the time I left the hospital, the unit I had trained with in
>>>Spartenburg, South Carolina was so deeply into Germany that I warn
>>>placed in a "repo depo" (a replacement depot) despite my protests. I
>>>then lost interest in which units I was assigned to because non-combat
>>>units were generally not respected. My separation qualification record
>>>states that I served mostly with the 14th Infantry Regiment, during
>>>which time I guarded prisoners of war and served as an interpreter.
>>>During my seventeen month stay in Germany, I was transferred to other
>>>outfits also.

>>>In late March or early April 1945, I was assigned to help guard a POW
>>>camp near Andernach along the Rhine. I had four years of high school
>>>German, so I was able to talk to the prisoners, although this was
>>>forbidden.

>>>Gradually, however, I was used as an interpreter and asked to ferret
>>>out the S.S. (I found none.)

>>>In Andernach, between 50,000 and 65,000 prisoners, ranging in age from
>>>very young teens to very old men, were crowded together in an open
>>>field surrounded by barbed wire. The women were kept in a separate
>>>enclosure which I did not see until later. The men I guarded had no
>>>tents or other shelter, no blankets and many had no coats. Inadequate
>>>numbers of slit trenches were provided for excrement, and so the men
>>>lived and slept in the mud and increasing filth during a cold, wet
>>>spring. Their misery from exposure alone was evident.

>>>It was even more shocking to see them eating grass, sometimes throwing
>>>it into a tin can containing a thin soup. They told me they did this
>>>hoping to ease their hunger pains. Soon their emaciation was evident.
>>>Dysentery raged and, too weak and crowded to reach the slit trenches,
>>>they were increasingly sleeping in excrement. I saw no sign of
>>>provision for water, so the thin soup was their food and water for the
>>>day. Some days there was bread, less than a slice each. Other days
>>>there was nothing.

>>>The sight of so many men desperate for food and water, sickening and
>>>dying before our eyes, is indescribable. Even now, I can only think of
>>>it momentarily.

>>>We had ample food and supplies that could have been shared more
>>>humanely, and we could have offered some medical assistance, but did
>>>nothing. Only the dead were quickly and efficiently taken care of:
>>>hauled away to mass graves.

>>>My outrage reached the point that I protested to my officers, but I
>>>was met with hostility or bland indifference. When pressed, they
>>>explained they were under strict orders from "higher up". No officer
>>>would dare to systematically do this to over 50,000 prisoners if he
>>>felt he was violating general policy and subject to court martial. The
>>>term "war criminal" was just beginning to come into fashion.

>>>Realizing my protests were useless, I asked a friend working in the
>>>kitchen if he could slip me some extra food for the prisoners. He too
>>>repeated that they were under strict orders to severely ration the
>>>prisoners' food, and that these orders came from "higher up". But he
>>>said they had more food than they knew what to do with and would sneak
>>>me some.

>>>When I threw this food over the barbed wires to the prisoners I was
>>>caught and threatened with imprisonment. I repeated the "offense", and
>>>one officer threatened to shoot me. I naturally assumed this was a
>>>bluff, but I began to have some doubts after I encountered a captain
>>>on a hill above the Rhine shooting down at a group of German civilian
>>>women with his .45 caliber pistol. When I asked, "Why?" he mumbled,
>>>"Target practice," and fired until his pistol was empty. I saw the
>>>women running for cover, but, at that distance, couldn't tell if any
>>>had been hit.

>>>This is when I more fully realized I was dealing with some
>>>cold-blooded killers filled with moralistic hatred. They considered
>>>the Germans sub-human and worthy of extermination; another expression
>>>of the downward spiral of racism. Articles in the G.I. newspaper,
>>>Stars & Stripes, played up the Nazi concentration camps, complete with
>>>photographs of emaciated bodies; this amplified our self-righteous
>>>cruelty and made it easier to imitate behavior we were supposed to
>>>oppose. Also, I think, soldiers not exposed to combat were trying to
>>>prove how tough they were by taking it out on the prisoners and
>>>civilians. At least, many combat soldiers told me later they would not
>>>have tolerated this, for they combined hatred with respect for a
>>>courageous enemy.

>>>The prisoners I spoke to were mostly simple farmers and workingmen, as
>>>ignorant, albeit nationalistic, as many of our own troops. I heard
>>>many versions of "my country, right or wrong, my country," which we
>>>still hear in our own country today.

>>>As time went on, many of them lapsed into a Zombie-like state of
>>>listlessness. Others, maddened by thirst, tried to escape in a
>>>desperate or suicidal fashion, running through open fields in broad
>>>daylight towards the Rhine to quench their thirst. They were mowed
>>>down.

>>>Some prisoners were extremely eager for cigarettes, saying they took
>>>the edge off their hunger. Accordingly, some enterprising G.I. "Yankee
>>>traders" were acquiring hordes of wrist watches and rings in exchange
>>>for handfuls of cigarettes or less. When I began throwing cartons of
>>>cigar-ettes to the prisoners to ruin this trade, I found myself
>>>threatened by rank-and-file G.I.s also. At least this taught me an
>>>indelible lesson: how wrong majorities and authorities can be.

>>>A bright spot in this gloomy picture came, oddly enough, one night
>>>when I was put on the "graveyard shift", from two to four A.M.
>>>Actually, there was a graveyard on the uphill side of this enclosure,
>>>not many yards away. My superiors had forgotten to give me a
>>>flashlight and I hadn't bothered to ask, being disgusted with the
>>>whole situation by that time. It was a fairly bright night and I soon
>>>became aware of a prisoner crawling under the wires to the graveyard.
>>>We were supposed to shoot escapees on sight, so I started to get up to
>>>warn him to get back. Suddenly I noticed another prisoner crawling
>>>from the graveyard back to the enclosure. They were risking their
>>>lives to get to the graveyard for something; I had to investigate.

>>>When I entered the gloom of this shrubby, tree-shaded cemetery, I
>>>never felt more vulnerable, but somehow curiosity kept me going.
>>>Despite my caution, I tripped over the legs of someone in a prone
>>>position. Whipping my rifle around while stumbling and trying to
>>>regain composure of mind and body, I soon was relieved I hadn't
>>>reflexively fired. The figure sat up, moving erratically. Gradually I
>>>could see the beautiful but terror-stricken face of a woman with a
>>>picnic basket nearby. German civilians were not allowed to feed, nor
>>>even come near, the prisoners, so I quickly assured her I approved of
>>>what she was doing, not to be afraid, and that I would leave the
>>>graveyard to get out of the way, telling no one.

>>>I left the graveyard as quickly as possible and sat down, leaning
>>>against a tree at the edge CF the cemetary to be inconspicuous and not
>>>frighten the prisoners. I imagined then, and often since, what it
>>>would be like to be a prisoner under those conditions and meet a
>>>beautiful woman with a picnic basket. I never saw her again, but I
>>>have never forgotten her face.

>>>While I watched, more prisoners crawled to and from the enclosure. I
>>>saw they were dragging food back to their comrades and could only
>>>admire their courage and devotion. As I walked back to my quarters at
>>>the end of my shift, a nightingale and I were singing -- both felt a
>>>touch of spring.

>>>(I originally did not intend to reveal the following incident, for it
>>>moves into a realm termed "mystical". However, for me, it was an
>>>extremely significant experience, changing my life, providing a light
>>>no darkness can extinguish. It must be told, hoping it will foster
>>>understanding.)

>>>On May 8, V.E. day, I decided to celebrate with some prisoners I was
>>>guarding who were baking bread, meager amounts of which the other
>>>prisoners occasionally received. This group had all the bread they
>>>could eat, and shared the jovial mood generated by the end of the war.
>>>We all thought we would be going home soon, a pathetic hope on their
>>>part. We were in what was to become the French zone, and I later
>>>witnessed the brutality of the French soldiers when we transferred our
>>>prisoners to them for their slave labor camps (see below).

>>>However, on this day we were happy.

>>>After chatting with them about the potentials of peace for the rest of
>>>our lives, I decided to risk a gesture of trust that objectively would
>>>seem foolish. I emptied my rifle and stood it in the corner. They
>>>tested me further by asking to play with it, and I agreed. Intuitively
>>>I felt I could rely on their sense of honor not to attack me, for they
>>>knew they too were being tested. This thoroughly 'broke the ice', and
>>>soon we were singing songs we taught each other or I had learned in
>>>high school German ("Du, du, liegst mir im Herzen"). Out of gratitude,
>>>they secretly baked a small sweet bread and insisted I take it,
>>>explaining it was the only possible gift they had left to offer.
>>>Expressing my gratitude with a lump in my throat, I put it in my tight
>>>"Eisenhower jacket" so I could sneak it back to my barracks. I later
>>>found an opportunity to eat it outside.

>>>Never had bread tasted more delicious, nor conveyed to me a deeper
>>>sense of communion while eating it. A wonderful feeling pervaded me,
>>>gently opening me to an intimation of the Oneness of all Being.
>>>Through those prisoners I sensed the ~cosmic presence of what has been
>>>called the Christ, Buddha-nature, or, perhaps most aptly, the
>>>Ineffable: cosmically present, but hidden and apparently separate,
>>>until revealed in the wholeness of the giving of the self. Even within
>>>the horror humans had created, I was taught a path to redemption may
>>>open by taking a first, tentative step in the direction of love,
>>>understanding and forgiveness. This above all the prisoners taught me:
>>>not only are we all potentially humane humans, there is divinity
>>>within us waiting for us to dissolve the defensive shield of ego. I
>>>was pleased to discover later the words of Matthew 25:34-46,
>>>expressing the potential within prisoners and all who are at our
>>>mercy.

>>>Shortly after this experience I was plunged into even greater horror.
>>>Some of our weak and sickly prisoners were being marched off by French
>>>soldiers to their camp. The truck we were on first passed another
>>>truck picking up bodies along the side of the road, and then came up
>>>behind a slowly moving column of men. Temporarily we slowed down and
>>>remained behind, perhaps because the driver was as shocked as I was.
>>>The French soldiers were apparently incensed at the poor condition of
>>>our prisoners, not only for labor but for marching to another camp.
>>>Whenever a prisoner staggered or dropped back, the French clubbed him
>>>to death and then dragged him to the side of the road. For many, this
>>>quick death might have been preferable to their prolonged suffering.
>>>Even gas would have been more merciful than our murder by neglect in
>>>our slow 'killing fields'.

>>>When I saw the German women held in a separate enclosure, I asked why
>>>we were keeping them. I was told they were "camp followers", selected
>>>as breeding stock for the S.S. to create a super-race. We provided
>>>them with tents but they were extremely hungry. I spoke to some and
>>>must say they were still spirited and attractive. However, I believe I
>>>was objective enough when I told all concerned that I didn't think
>>>they deserved our treatment.

>>>As an interpreter, I was able to prevent some particularly unfortunate
>>>arrests. One somewhat amusing incident occurred during a pre-dawn raid
>>>we conducted on a town to discover Nazis or arms. An old farmer was
>>>being dragged away by some soldiers. I was told he had a "fancy Nazi
>>>medal", which they showed to me. Fortunately, I had a chart
>>>identifying such medals. He had been awarded it for having five or
>>>more children! Perhaps his wife was somewhat relieved to get him "off
>>>her back", but I didn't think one of our 'death camps' was a fair
>>>punishment for his contribution to Germany. The soldiers agreed and
>>>released him to continue his "dirty work".

>>>Famine was spreading amongst German civilians also. It was a common
>>>sight to see German women up to their elbows in our garbage cans
>>>looking for something edible -- that is, when they weren't chased
>>>away.

>>>When I interviewed mayors of small towns and villages, I was told
>>>their supply of food had been taken away by "displaced persons"
>>>(foreigners who had worked in Germany), who packed the food on trucks
>>>and drove away. When I reported this, the response was a shrug or an
>>>expression of helplessness.

>>>Although the Red Cross coffee and doughnut stands were available
>>>everywhere for us, I never saw any Red Cross in the prison camps or
>>>helping the civilians. While my girlfriend had all the "contraband"
>>>doughnuts she could eat, most Germans had to share their meager hidden
>>>stores and wait until the next harvest.

>>>This hunger undoubtedly made many German women more "available", but,
>>>despite this, rape was incredibly prevalent and often accompanied by
>>>additional violence. I particularly remember a charming eighteen year
>>>old girl who had several unsuccessful suitors and was "just friends"
>>>with me, who had the side of her face smashed with a rifle butt and
>>>was then raped by two G.I.s. The casual shooting of German civilians
>>>also continued, usually by drunken soldiers who would tell of this as
>>>something amusing. All too many G.I.s gave the impression they were
>>>1ike animals released from cages, free to do what they liked because
>>>they were dealing with yet a lower species of animal, a reverse
>>>racism, inflamed by our propaganda. However, even the French
>>>complained to me that our rape and drunken destructive behavior in
>>>their country was excessive. When we had arrived in Le Havre, we had
>>>been given booklets instructing us that the Germans had maintained a
>>>high standard of behavior with French civilians who were peaceful, and
>>>that we should do the same. In this we failed miserably.

>>>So what? we might still say. The enemies' atrocities were worse than
>>>ours. Certainly my experiences were only of the last phases of the
>>>war, when we were already clearly the victors. The Nazi opportunity
>>>for atrocities had faded and ours was unleashed. But we might have
>>>learned the simple lesson that two wrongs do not make a right. Perhaps
>>>we might even have broken the cycle of vengeful retaliation and
>>>unbridled hatred, fed by racism, that has plagued human history and
>>>blighted human potential all to long. Instead, we committed our own
>>>atrocities and now are clinging to a cover-up. That is why I am
>>>speaking out now, forty-five years after the crime. We can never
>>>prevent individual war crimes, but we can, if enough of us speak out,
>>>influence government policy. We can reject government propaganda that
>>>depicts our enemies as subhuman and encourages the kinds of outrages I
>>>witnessed. We can protest the bombing of civilian targets, which still
>>>goes on today. (I will never forget the sickly sweet smell of rotting
>>>human flesh rising from the shattered remains of the cities and towns
>>>I entered.) And we can refuse ever to condone our government' s murder
>>>of unarmed and defeated prisoners of war.

>>>I realized it's difficult to admit witnessing a crime of this
>>>magnitude, especially if implicated oneself. Even G.I .s sympathetic
>>>to the victims told me they were afraid to oppose so massive a policy
>>>that would surely seek to cover its tracks. I never heard this
>>>directly from an officer, but it was the belief of the rank-and-file
>>>G.I.s I spoke to that we were not to "talk" because, first, no one
>>>would believe us, and second, we would surely get into trouble. They
>>>all insisted it was better not to talk, and slowly I too realized it
>>>would be futile and dangerous. That is, until now, thanks to James
>>>Bacque and Pat Buchanan. This is not to say the danger has passed.
>>>Since I "spoke out" recently, my mailbox has been smashed and I have
>>>received threatening phone calls. But I believe it is worth the risk.
>>>Writing about these atrocities has been a catharsis of feelings
>>>suppressed too long, a liberation, and perhaps will remind other
>>>witnesses and citizens -that "the truth shall make us free, have no
>>>fear." And, in any case, "the truth shall out".

>>>We may even learn a supreme lesson from all this: Hate is
>>>self-destructive; only love can conquer and evolve all as One.

>>>Martin Brech
>>>(Adjunct Professor,
>>>Philosophy & Religion,
>>>Mercy College;
>>>Ex-G.I., Finally Free)
>>>Martin Brech, 187 Archer Road, Mahopac, NY 10541, Tel.: 914-628-6301

>>>James Bacque: Did the Allies starve millions of Germans?


>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article...


Ken McVay from Nizkor seems to actually deny that something like death
camps for Germans even existed or that Germans were deliberately
starved to death (Rheinwiesenlager).
http://www.rheinwiesenlager.de/

He himself is some kind of "Holocaust Denier", when it comes to German
suffering.
Note that Nizkor virtually doesn't mention any German suffering:
http://www.nizkor.org/other-sites/genocides.html
No mentioning of Germans at all. But after all, why bother about those
subhumans that according to Nizkor and related sources "gassed millions of
Jews"?!


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just  to
justify his existence to his ZYD masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZYD COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZYDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZYDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.



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This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,so
that more and more people around the world will come to know the truth
about the ZYD COLLABORATION with nazis.
It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zyd lies!!

More and more truth is coming out, about the perfidious ZYD
COLLABORATION with the nazis!!

Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
ZYDS, to consider demanding repayment?


>>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
>>>> wrote:

It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!

>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion
>> wrote:

>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS
with
>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH made
>>public.

>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public their
>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.

>>It was not only the notorious KASTNER CASE!!

>>>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:51:02 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
>>> wrote:
>>>Newsgroups:soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.european,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.germany
>>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>September 2004, page 86
>>>Book Review
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List:$22; AET:
>>>$15.
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It's no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to
advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly
few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received
little
>>>coverage in the American media.

>>>Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has compiled a wide variety of
letters,
>>>statements, articles, and judgements?some of which appeared in his
>>>earlier  book?by a broad array of activists and authors, that
>>>documents Zionist cooperration with the Nazis.

>>>On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case?made in many Zionists? own words?that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the
>>>Zionist plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and
>>>creating a new Jewish nation.

>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the
Nazis.

>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response.

>>>These latter do indicate levels of collaboration between Zionists
and
>>>fascists, both the Nazis in Germany, and those in Mussolini's
Italy.
>>>Brenner's brief explanatory notes at the beginning of each document
>>>are helpful, as are the glossary and index.

>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the
part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort,
however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some
>>>Zionists eschewed the boycott against Hitler?s Germany, for
instance, is
>>>that they had a financial deal?Ha'avara?with Germany allowing Jews
to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less
of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before.
>>>Moreover, the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of
'nationality'
>>>versus citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are
based on
>>>the same concept.

>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term Holocaust
>>>guilt, frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who
>>>made the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to
>>>place Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives
of
>>>their threatened European brethren.

>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on
>>>Feb. 18, 1943:

>>>And when some asked me: Can't you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora? I said:
>>>?No!  And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I'm guilty, for the
fact
>>>that we don't give ourselves completely to rescue actions.(p. 211)

>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically
>>>align themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally
saw
>>>race as an important dividing line?and, moreover, were determined
to
>>>keep it that way.

>>>From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,'assimilation' of Jews
>>>into the societies in which they lived was not an acceptable
option.
>>>Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on a national level,
not
>>>a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, 'It is impossible for a
man
>>>to become assimilated with people whose blood is different from his
>>>own'
>>>(p. 10); in Einstein?s words, ?Palestine is first and foremost not
a
>>>refuge for East European Jews, but the incarnation of a reawakening
>>>sense of national solidarity? (p. 29).

>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the STERN  GANG, , wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.

>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would
be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).

>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference?and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy?were practiced around the world.

>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the
>>>Zionist cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of
this
>>>book,another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than
savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers,
in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after
the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.

>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to
>>>bring information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to
U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives 'both Palestinian
>>>and Israeli' in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it
>>>difficult not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem
to wear
>>>when examining Zionism.


# 5                           The Kastner Case
ZHID  KOLABORACI WITH EICHMANN & NAZIS!!
Extracted from a pamphlet issued by BAZO-PS - 1981

Introduction

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is
that involving Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
Those who have, are generally under the impression that
there is some "controversy" about negotiations he undertook
for "the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
equipment," but that he was "fully rehabilitated" by the
Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that -
I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
deeds of the war.

This small group of quislings knew what was happening to
their brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their
own lives with the price of silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke
for all Jews in Hungary.
While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is
still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me
when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian
Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned
to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...
Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, "I know of your plans;
spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet."

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...
(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the "Eichmann Confessions"
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's
directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
political officials in Budapest...Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep order in the
collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
camps, the price...was not too high for me.

"...We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

"Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for
a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune...

"As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
immensely idealistic Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner
would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
blood to achieve his political goal...
'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have
this group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great
service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner."
(Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
do not relate merely to "the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment."

Are the accusations against Kastner true?
According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
Israeli Government did rather more  than demand that his
views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
-88-
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Posted by Robert E. Nordlander
nord@powernetonline.com


Subject: Kastner Case=ZHID KOLLABORACI WITH NAZIS!!

From: Elias Davidsson (edavid@itn.is)
Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
Date: 1997/07/12

The Kastner Case

Introduction

Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of
all and will show that on this question 'The documentation available
is overwhelming and its message is thundering", just as Palestine
Speaks claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly
the most 'extreme' and 'offensive' accusations of Nazi-Zionist
collaboration broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first,
and in greater detail.

Since the 'Kastner case' is the subject of most of the broadcasts
concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some
books in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its 
case appears strongest, and on the points to which it has given
greatest emphasis,we hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that
things are not quite what they may have appeared before this inquiry
began.

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
'controversy' about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of
Jewish lives for money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully
ehabilitated' by the Supreme Court of Israel.

That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
3CR for anti-semitism.

It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
what Kastner was accused of.

This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works
dealing with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart
>from 3CR, the suppression of information has been so complete, that
even an expert like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on
the matter, has been unable to find out what it is all about.

The Accusations
----------------
Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives
with the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the
council which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner
number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is still on my arm - I compiled
careful statistics of the exterminations...I took these terrible
statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give
Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned to
send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...Kastner went to
Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
choice and I shall keep quiet.'

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there.

Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany
collapsed,to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit.
pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest...Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let
a few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
Palestine.
It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoked
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...

As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
oal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
group here'.

And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so
Jews...
That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid,
p.26ö-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is
the term that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had
known what the accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR
saying 'In these circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious
and absurd'.

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

The Verdict
------------
Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on
3CR, has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to
the Jewish community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to
promote racism, in bad taste and contrary to common sense.

It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information
can backfire on the censors themselves.

Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:

"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.

The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.
They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.

The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.

Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.

The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.

Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their
community n their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.

The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into oollaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.

The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
expensively if honorably guided.

Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.

The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.

The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs.

It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.

The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?

The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
annihilation.

The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.
Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.

When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the
majority of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic
element in the agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement
fixed the division of the nation into two unequal camps: a small
fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on
the one hand, and the great majority of Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis
designated for death, on the other hand.
An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.

One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.

Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated
quickly to another."

(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
Generalv. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22,
1955).

Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

"From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.

This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.

Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler". (ibid)

Judge Halevi continues:

"Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher's hehalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.

The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.

The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.

The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher'.

It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal.
Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
n Nuremberg.

Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements." (ibid)

Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproven accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge
also ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred
Israeli pounds as court costs.

In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
matter.

If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.

But the story does not end there.

The Reaction
-------------
Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
now it was Kastner's accuser who was on trial.

The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:

"All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June
1955)

In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, the leading political
journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:

"Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
defended by the Israeli Government..." (14 July 1955).

*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
"The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
defense." (23 June 1955)

But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.

As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
"If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
disclose." (23 June 1955)

Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.

As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel's largest evening newspaper,
*Ma'ariv*:
"What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
of our history!

At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an
appeal filed.
What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24
June 1955)

At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly:  "The man Kastner does not stand
here as a private individual. He was a recognized representative,
official or non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in
Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court
to defend the representative of our national institutions." (Hecht, p.
268)

The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.

So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.

The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully
rehabilitated'.

The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
court - that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
'fully rehabilitated'.

The Majority Judgement
-------------------------
But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner's actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
'collaboration'.

In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
totally missing the point.

Kastner's actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.

The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
Kastner.
They JOINED him.

Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:

"...What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, 'The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree'.
This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness
about the Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary,
without any ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner
aide in Budapest, protocol 465).

I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this...is a consideration which
one  can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.
Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale...And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose the truth to many though it is his best
opinion that this way everybody will perish. I think that the answer
is clear. What good will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to
perish?...As I said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings
of the learned President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi)
but it seems to me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as
of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view...

In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn and did not cry out of the
coming danger....

Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war." (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)

n other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did -
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different train for Palestine.

The Minority Judgement
--------------------------
It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority
judgement of S>>>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General
therefore shrinks into Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:

"I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others....

an opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few - therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.'

I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able to save their lives by local, partial,
specific or indirect rescue operations like local revolts, resistance,
escapes, hidings, concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of
documents, ransom money, bribery, etc - and when this is the case and
when one deals with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human
being, a mortal, reject with complete certainty and with an extreme
'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he
examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead
of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the last hope
of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith as his
defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith...

If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the news about the fate of the ghetto
inmates in good faith and only as a result of his complete despairing
of the chances of escaping or resisting the Germans. You can not claim
at the same time helplessness and activity.
Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...

We can sum up with three facts:
A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - 'Second Warsaw'
- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to
Kastner from the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had
additional proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and
misleading tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first
moment of occupation.

B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder.
This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
evidence for this.

C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his
eyes...I couldn't base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive light on the whole affair and serves
as a dozen proofs of our conclusion." (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe
Silberg, 1957)

Conclusion
-----------
If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.

One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the
'dragging in of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi
relationships'.

But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.

The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
being 'dragged in' to discredit an opponent.

It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.

Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.

Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds
of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that
they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for
tickets on the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.

As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it,
'now dead'.

Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was delivered. Eckstein was
not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
secret service.
(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another 'fantastic allegation' no doubt; but
admitted in court during the murder trial).

Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
dispute. Apart from countering Israel's cynical use of the holocaust
as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many
people have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is
whether, if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many
more could have been saved, and whether this is not an essential
future consideration, at least as an insurance policy.

The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the
Nazis and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had
not existed.
Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
insurance policy, is like using petrol for a fire extinguisher.

Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.

We shall go on to prove this in detail.
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Tel. (354)-552-6444     Fax: (354)-552-6579
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Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:35:10 -0700, Ernst Zundholtz
 wrote:

Looks like the filthy ZHIDS just do not like this well-documented
expose of their holohoax, and the fact that it documents 52 cases of
ZHID COLLABORATION WITH THE NAZIS!!

>>On 28 Nov 2004 10:59:36 -0800, heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net
>>(HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote:

This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,
so that more and more people around the world will come to know the
truth about the ZHID COLLABORATION with nazis.
It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zhid lies!!

More and more truth is coming out, about the perfidious ZHID
COLLABORATION with the nazis!!

Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
ZHIDS, to consider demanding repayment?


>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
>>> wrote:

It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!

>>>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion
>> wrote:

>>>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS
with
>>>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH
made
>>>>public.

>>>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public
their
>>>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.

>>>>It was not only the notorious KASTNER CASE!!

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Posted by:
Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
John Bryant

TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.


Posted by: 
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7500 Bellerive #1807
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1-713-266-7764

Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with
Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
Henry 
CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
VISIT me at:
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We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


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office: VISIT at:
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As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
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Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
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work:(780)492-0473

And also: George Firestone: "George" ,
and davejoll@ihug.co.nz.

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
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of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.




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From: Vishnu - destroyer of Nazi Coughlan's support of the Shoah

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-IS DEZI NOW DECEASED?
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On 26 Jan 2006 06:04:44 -0800, "Philippe 'Suffer the little children to come
onto me and give me a blowjob' KKKoughlan " 
after lovingly laving his tongue around the lips of his bust to Hitler wrote:

>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/

Oh, my... KKKoughlan is again displaying his affection for Grosvenor.
Arguing between themselves as to who hates the Jews more.  The fight
is on... and the votes are now being cast.  Does Grosvenor or KKKoughlan
hate the Jews more?

Think KKK doesn't hate the Jews?  Think again.  This is just a short list
of his past comments demonstrating his support for Nazi doctrine and
the "innocence" (sic) of every Nazi --

His words -- "The issue is whether or not, the Nazis, in declaring
Jews 'inhuman', were acting illegally.  They were not."  See --
http://groups.google.fr/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/8fcc1c8e5cb0f3d3
Him finding that it is LEGAL to declare the Jews as "inhuman."

His words -- "The Holocaust was 'a just execution for those found
guilty of being Jewish'."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/9e47adb28f22faaf

His words -- "even Auschwitz would not execute a 72-year-old man..."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/2e39751aaf992176
Insisting that Auschwitz was "more humane" than California.  And one elder
murderers is more valuable than every elderly Jewish victim of the Holocaust.

His words -- "'The Holocaust' is a term used to refer to the legal execution
of 6,000,000 Jews in the Second World War."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/88e428e1da2cf26f

His words -- "the attempted extermination of the Jews was legal..."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/0a0dee548a7e68d6

His words -- "if it's legal, it's moral, Jed"  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/4e24f3730b022c53
Him finding it MORAL to find the Jews "legally inhuman" and MORAL
to kill six million of them.

His words -- "Are we to accept the word of a committee, bent
on revenge, which in itself violated the human rights of the Nazis ? See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/944deb89e3e1b631

His words posted with a slap in the face to the contributions of Simon
Wiesenthal -- 
"At the same time, let no one forget that the kidnap and hanging of Eichmann,
was a crime under international law."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7acc13b56d18263c
Essentially calling Simon Wiesenthal both a kidnapper and complicit in what
KKK insists was the "murder by lynching" of Eichmann.

In respect to the question -- "Should Maurice Papon still be imprisoned ?"
His words -- "Isn't there room for mercy ?  For the sure knowledge that this
91-year-  old man, isn't in a position to harm anyone."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/5d44b6c90151f6c4
And then begging everyone to forgive every Nazi... because he insist it's been
60 years.

His words -- "German society said that the extermination of the Jews
was a moral, legal, ethical thing to do ..."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/6028d5703b310f29
Blaming every German for the Holocaust, in the most bigoted
and hateful comment ever directed against ALL of "German society."
He might as well have said -- "Every German was a Nazi guard in an
Eastern European extermination camp."  Since his comment means
just the same.  A large part of the German population of that time
might well have supported various anti-Semitic practices, but the
idea that "German society" supported the HOLOCAUST as a
"moral, legal, ethical thing to do," is an obscenity on the part of KKK.
It is a racist comment, unparalleled by hardly any other racist comment
made in AADP.

His words -- "In the absolute, the Nazi Holocaust and the death penalty
are perfect equivalents, both morally and legally."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/09343f66a6cea661
In his words reducing six million innocent Jewish victims murdered in a few
short years to no better than a thousand proven murderers executed in more
than 25 years.  The fact is the life expectancy of a Jew setting foot in
Treblinka was measured in minutes.  Yet he insists that "morally and legally"
this was in the absolute no different than the execution of any murderer,
making each and every Jew setting foot on Treblinka the same as a proven
murderer.

His words -- "Europe has not had a war now since 1945, and in
matters of morals, has led the world for over two thousand years."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/969ba9ff6d41a2e4
A truly bizarre comment from him, which argues that all wars in Europe
for the past 2000 years were fought for moral principles.  In addition to
him claiming the Holocaust was moral.  And concluding with that
obligatory reference to Christ, to support his hate for the Jews, who
he insists were responsible for that death those 2000 years ago, with
his words -- " Educated Americans are insanely jealous of Europe,
for it is on this continent that human rights, philosophy, thought, and
science, has been a beacon to the world since the time of Christ."

Notice that he DARED to mention "human rights," given the bloody
past of Europe and so much hate for the Jews.   The persecution for
those 2000 years, the pogroms, the ghettoization, the blaming of the
Jews for every ill having befallen Europe in those 2000 years, the
crusades of killing Jews, and finally the attempt to exterminate the
Jews.  All part of what he argued was the "bright beacon of morality"
in Europe during what he insists was "it's Golden age of persecution
of the Jews."    Yeah... Americans are in awe and
insanely jealous of how perverse and methodically efficient Europeans
were at blaming the Jews for all of Europe's problems and dispatching
them with such religious fervor during those 2000 years.  Let's all
give a big cheer for Jesus 'motherfucker' Christ...the name lent to
being responsible as the greatest mass murderer of all time... but
KKKoughlan's hero.

His words in a very direct insult to the Jews of today -- "yet by
milking those terrible events for all they are worth, 60 years later, Israel
and World Jewry are only cutting their noses, to spite their face."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/c2ef9625017cc935
A comment from him filled with insults toward anyone who would
express a pro-Jewish comment of any kind, insisting that being 
pro-Jewish means being too biased to actually have a view that
is less than 150% pro-Jewish.  Essentially insulting every Jew
living today.

His words -- "certain sections of the Jewish community use the Shoah to
justify their own excesses."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/e18cca69bc258b4f
His argument presumes that the Arab community needs no excuse to
justify their own excesses.

His words -- "Make up your mind: either the Holocaust was mass murder, in
which case, so is the death penalty, or the death penalty is 'just', in 
which case, so was the extermination of the Jews.   See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/b8c995d30833c827
Which is undoubtedly the most ignorantly contrived attempt at pseudo-logic
ever witnessed in AADP.  Since the proposition is only true if one equates
convicted murderers as the same as innocent Jews.  But looking beyond
that his argument is that every person who find the death penalty for
even a single murderer, even those such as John Wayne Gacy, or Ted
Bundy, or Kenneth McDuff, to be "just," by his definition must also find
the Holocaust to have been "just."

His words in denial of anti-Semitism in Europe but insisting that the
Jews of Israel are anti-Semitic -- "However, it's fatuous to claim that Europe
is 'anti-Semitic', based on the number of 'anti-Semitic' events that take
place.  If that were the only criterion, then Israel would be the most
anti-Semitic country on the planet."  See -- 
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/39504e62ed6562a9
Hoping to redefine the meaning of anti-Semitism in the English language
and excuse the anti-Semitism of Muslims at the same time.

He defended the words of the French ambassador to England, Daniel
Bernard, who referred to Israel as "that shitty little country."  In his
post that grew hysterical in accusations against the Jews of Israel
and defended that perverse comment.  One of his comments in
that blast of anti-Semitic raving from him was -- "Israel does not need to
kill children, to ensure its survival.  Israel does not need to target the
innocent families of suicide bombers, to ensure its survival.  Israel does
not need to engage in daily humiliation of innocent men and women, to
ensure its survival.  The current policies will hurt Israel more in the
long run, than they will help it.  Sharon came to power on a security
'ticket', and his brutal repression of the Palestinian people, has _not_
ensured the security of Israel and her citizens."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/4d4ec92a10b91a76
Of course you will notice the one-sided argument offered in which he
excuses children being taught to become suicide bombers to kill
innocent Jews.  Forgetting that Arafat came to power on a "kill every
Jew" ticket.  As he also admits he is "anti-Jewish government."

He claimed the Jews were quite possibly responsible for 9/11.  His
words -- "I'd put my money on either Israel, or Pakistan being behind the
attacks."  While attempting to totally absolve bin Laden as innocent.  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/ca5cddf2d27b074d

Of course he also screamed in rage that -- "No one is 'BORN' (sic) a Jew, you
spagmerchant."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7ecf6157652669e5

But when it came to providing what he considered "proof" of him being
Jewish, he stated --  "I don't believe in God ... but I was 'born Jewish.'
See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/e7e8dbd3116d2dc6

 And how many here... even those who would call him a "friend," have said they
believe he is Jewish?  The answer is ZERO.  Even when I cajole them for an
answer.
While nine have come out and stated here that they do not believe he is
Jewish.  All we have is his raving claim, even going so far as to insist he
"wears the yellow star" as an insult to the true victims of the Holocaust, and
even going so far as to call himself a Rabbi in the use of a handle in AADP,
while laughing at the joke he believe he is playing on AADP and the Jews in
using that handle.  The fact is well-known that he makes a joke out of playing
the role of a Jew, in order to turn the tragedy of the Holocaust into his
personal comic parody.

And of course we have John Rennie's comment regarding the personal
conversation he had with Coughlan when Coughlan admitted he was not Jewish.
His words in the same BLOCK LETTERS he posted here -- "DESMOND
UNEQUIVOCALLY CONFIRMED TO ME THAT HE WAS NOT
JEWISH.   AT THE TIME OF OUR MEETING HE THOUGHT IT A
GREAT JOKE AND HE STILL DOES. HE IS NOT JEWISH, HE WAS
NOT BORN JEWISH, HE DOES NOT HAVE JEWISH ANCESTRY,
HE DOES NOT PRACTICE THE JEWISH RELIGION."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/92c993bba5d24130

Planet Visitor II 
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/dict.html

KKKoughlan's words -- ""send that 16-year-old niece of yours around to 
give me a blowjob whenever I want one." See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/8db6438f040c09bf

Perhaps the gentle reader is not aware of KKKoughlan's own feeling as to
who he considers a "CHILD."  If so, let me provide KKKoughlan's own
words of who he feels is a "CHILD."  His words -- ""the term 'child' isn't
defined by you and your NRA buddies.  It's defined in international law,
and a 17 year old is a child until his eighteenth birthday."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/msg/a1b77a27fe4c6928

KKKoughlan... a self-admitted pedophile.



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Subject: Wish To Dispose of Dealer Stock-$3 Million CV Stamp Collections-
Verkauf/Tausch $3 Millionen BiefmarkenSammlungen

We seek a qualified buyer of all our stock, for cash payable to our bankers.
Approximately $3 million CV, with main areas of interest:
GB
Canada
Germany
Commonwealth
France
USA
Australia
Austria
Switzerland
Israel
etc.

If interested, kindly advise.
The reason for sale, eyesight going blind. 
Ich verliere meine Sicht,und gehe Blinde.
Am NOT interested in consigning, or auction, only full cash sale.

We mean CASH for the buyer to take all, not cheques, drafts, or whatever.
May consider part swap for something significant, such as clear title cottage,
motorhome, or?
Am located in northern Canada.

Reply to: JoeBlough@operamail.com

P.S. Nigerian Scam and similar just disregarded as worthless.


Verkauf/Tausch $3 Millionen BiefmarkenSammlungen von 
Briefmarken Sammlungen Zu Verfügen

Wir suchen einen Käufer von unserer ganzen Aktie, für Bargeld das zahlbar 
ist zu unseren Bankiers. 
Ungefähr $3 Millionen KatalogwertF, mit Hauptgebieten 
des Interesses: 
GB 
Kanada 
Deutschland
Britische Commonwealth 
Frankreich 
Vereinigten Staaten
Australien 
Österreich 
Schweiz 
Israel usw.

Wenn interessiert, freundlich rät. 
Der Grund zum Verkauf, gehend Sehvermögen 
blendet. 
Ich verliere meine Sicht, und gehe Blinde. 
Interessiere mich NICHT für Schicken, oder Auktion, nur volles Bargeschäft.

Wir bedeuten, dass BARGELD für den Käufer alle nimmt, nicht Schecke, 
Kann teils Tausch für etwas bedeutsames, wie 
zum Beispiel klares Titellandhaus, motorhome, oder bedenken? 
Bin in nördlichem Kanada befunden. 
P. S. Nigerianisch Scam und ähnlich hat nur als 
wertlos nicht beachtet.





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This hotel & casino is owned by a group out of Vienna, Austria.

Have their standards of operation sunk so low, that they must resort to
SWINDLING, and having an UNSAFE hotel as well?

perhaps people in Austria may wish to comment?


On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 07:28:44 -0700, Frank Arthur  wrote:

>The new Century Casino have been flooding homes in Edmonton with flyers,
>promoting supposed deals at their restaurant.

>They are claiming buffet breakfasts on Wednesdays for only $1,99.
>In their flyer they also advertise FREE COFFEE between 9-11 a.m.

>However, they are CHARGING FOR THE COFFEES when one gets the 
>buffet breakfast, which is FRAUD!!

>If you want toast with the scrambled eggs, they charge for that extra!!
>The scrambled eggs with bacon or ham or sausage is edible, but no toast, 
>no waffles, no pancackes means there is no choice!!

>To really get seniors angry, one is forced to wait in a lineup from 8;45 until
>9:30 to get seated, because of no line-up supervision by hotel staff. What was
>happening was that several  slimeballs  in the lineup would take a whole table
>for 6. Then his buddies would show up after half an hour, and jump the line-up
>to take over the table for another half hour. 3 groups did this, with people
>in the lineup complaining.

>Many of the seniors in the line-up for an hour or more complained, but the
>hotel managers did not give a damn.

>Gamblers, go to a better casino, whether at Northlands, Yellowhead, or River
>Cree, and AVOID CENTURY CASINO (formerly Londonderry Inn) on the Fort Road.

>Maybe when enough people avoid this dump then perhaps the owners in Colorado
>and Vienna Austria will realise they need to replace the so-called managers!!



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Well worth worth reading by those with brains.
It seems that Iamhere is not all there, so he is out.


On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:49:14 GMT, BenJKramer
 wrote:
>From: Ken McVay 
>Subject: DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUEDEN-MAFIA!!
>Newsgroups:
>soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.austria,soc.culture.polish


>NOTE:  Do not print this out if you reside in  Austria;
>Belgium; France; Germany; Israel; Spain or Switzerland.

>WARNING To People in Austria; Belgium; France; Germany;
>Israel; Spain and Switzerland. You can be fined,
>imprisoned or both for discussing the topics set
>forth in this article.

>From: dna-no-spam@cotse.com
>Subject: DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUDEN-MAFIA
>Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:10:10 -0500
>Newsgroups: de.soc.politik.misc
>
>22.1.2001
>
>DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUDEN-MAFIA
>
>Pardon, was wir genau sagen wollten ist DROGEN-, WAFFEN-,
>PORNO-  und ABZOCKMAFIA.
>
>Waehrend heutzutage rechte und braune Furze weltweit auf
>den Titelseiten der Freimaurerpresse Schlagzeilen
>machen, werden andere Meldungen - die tatsaechlich
>veruebten Verbrechen der Globalisten und Juden betreffend,
>bestenfalls als Minimeldung auf der Chronikseite gebracht.
>
>Der freimaurerisch-judea kontrollierten Medien-Mafia ist
>es z.B. gelungen einen blutigen Massenmord und
>Massenvergewaltigung in Wichita (USA) an 5 Weisse
>durch zwei Neger voellig zu unterdruecken.
>Wird jedoch einem Nigger-Drogendealer in Deutschland
>auch nur ein Haar gekruemmt, gibt es sofort in allen Medien
>einen Proteststurm, Kerzerlmaersche  und alle irren
>Gruen-Bolschewisten weltweit beginnen schlagartig mit
>Lichterketten, Sanktionen und sonstigen Unsinn.
>
>Ein weiteres Beispiel fuer die Macht der Juden-Mafia:
>Aus Mexiko wurde heute gemeldet, dass der Ober-Pate
>und einer der maechtigsten mexikanischen Drogenbosse,
>der Jude Joaquin Guzman aus einem luxurioesen
>"Hochsicherheitsgefaengnis" offenbar problemlos
>entfliehen konnte. Wie das?
>
>Der Direktor dieses noblen "Etablishments" und weitere
>30 Waerter (!) wurden als mutmassliche Fluchthelfer
>verhaftet.  Eine reine Alibihandlung, denn welcher
>Richter oder Polizist dem seine Karriere, sein Leben
>oder/und Familie lieb und wert ist, wird der
>"Ueberredungskunst" oder/und Scheck eines Mosche
>Rothschild oder Sharon Feigenbaum einen Widerstand
>entgegensetzen?
>
>Beweis: Die russisch-juedischen Pornohersteller in Moskau,
>die zwar pro Forma verhaftet wurden, aber nach drei Tagen
>schon wieder ihren Geschaeften im Internet nachgehen konnten.
>In russischen Gefaengnissen gibt es offenbar kein koscheres
>Essen und keine Synagoge. Das Verbrechen dieser
>beschnittenen Ratten aus der ostjuedischen Khasarengosse:
>Vor laufender Videokamera wurde Babys zu Tode vergewaltigt
>und diese Videos mit horrenden Profiten verkauft, im
>Internet angeboten und Teilausschnitte davon (dank
>einem juedischen TV-Boss) im italienischen Fernsehen
>gezeigt.  Eindeutig ein Fall fuer unsere Politiker
>auch diese Art von Kulturbereicherung zu foerdern.
>
>Da fast alle globalen Top-Verbrecher und Mafiosi
>(egal ob Drogen, Menschen- oder Waffenschoieber oder
>Pornokoenige) dieser Erde aus dem auserwaehlten Volk
>Gottes stammen, besitzen sie zumeist auch eine israelische
>Staatsbuergerschaft. Oder sie geben mitunter auch
>vor, Jude zu sein.  Wohl wissend, dass Israel nicht
>nur der groesste  antisemitische und rassistische
>Killerstaat der Erde ist, sondern auch das Paradies
>fuer jede Art von Dieben, Betrueger, Schwindler,
>Spekulanten, Kriegsverbrecher,  Holocaust-Luegner
>und auch Massenmoerder ist.
>
>Grund genug fuer den oesterreichischen Bundeskanzler
>Wolfgang Schuessel und Co. dieses dekadente Volk von
>Ganoven und  Banditen und ihre menschenrechtswidrigen
>Verbrechen (3 Millionen Semiten aus ihrer Heimat vertrieben,
>hunderte Tote in wenigen Monaten) mit weiteren
>Milliardenbetraegen zu finanzieren. Die Ausbeute
>des von "Jahwe auserwaehlten Volk" fuer nur 12 Monate
>Erpressung kann sich sehen lassen: 15 Mrd. AS die man
>dem Volk und der Wirtschaft frech aus der Tasche stiehlt.
>
>Sei's wie sei, Oesterreich ist nicht das einizige Opfer
>dieser Parasiten, denn auch andere Laender werden von
>diesen genetisch kaputten Blutegeln zu Kasse gebeten -
>und von der Presse tunlichst verheimlicht.
>
>Mit rund 100 Millionen US$ wird auch Frankreich zur
>Kasse gebeten. Geld bekommen auch jene Nachkommen
>und Kinder die nur GLAUBEN, dass ihrer Eltern ein Konto
>bei einer Bank oder Versicherung hatten. Beweisen
>muessen sie als Juden nichts.
>
>Mit rund 4,4 Milliarden wird Deutschland zur Kasse
>gebeten. Oder hat man das schon wieder vergessen?
>Das inkludiert selbstverstaendlich nicht die laufenden
>Geschenke wie zum Beispiel hochmoderne Atom U-Boote.
>(damit die Israelis weltweit unbemerkt ihre Bio-Chemischen
>voelkervernichtenden Waffen abfeuern koennen)
>
>Und diese Summen inkludieren aber keine Sonderleistungen
>wie  bezahlte Urlaubsreisen in Luxushotels, Schulen, Synagogen,
>und die Pflege der juedischen Friedhoefe bzw.
>"Holocaustdenkmaeler" (in Berlin alleine fast 500 und
>weltweit werden es sicher bei 10.000 sein).
>
>Und diese Liste des Horrors laesst sich fast endlos fortsetzen.
>Nur von den Eskimos am Nordpol, den Buschnegern
>Zentralafrikas oder den Kannibalen Borneos wurden
>noch keine "Wiedergutmachungen" und "Entschuldigungen"
>(spricht Kniefall und Fuesse kuessen) verlangt. Kein Land
>der Welt kann heute mehr sicher sein, nicht in den Zangengriff
>dieser beschnittenen Raubritter zu gelangen.
>
>Man schaetzt, 300-400 Milliarden US$ an Mafia-Schutzgelder
>wurden seit 1948 mit Hilfe der Holocaust-Keule
>und Gaskammerschwindel an die Juden bezahlt. Und dieser
>Betrag ist sicher nicht zu hoch gegriffen. Wieviele Milliarden
>davon allerdings in den Aufbau und Erhalt des organisierten
>Verbrechens geflossen sind, kann nur geschaetzt werden.
>
>
>
>I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>I like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, PAMYAT, HAMAS or Aryan Nations,etc.
>
>CALL late nights best, or even VISIT me:
>Dr Laurence B. Shiff (Nazihunter)
>327 Cortleigh Boulevard
>Toronto, Ontario M5N 1R2 CA
>Tel: 416-785-4574.
>
>alternate
>
>KASPU COM
>2788 Bathurst St.
>Toronto, Ontario m6b3a3 CA
>Tel: 416-789-5691
>(FAX) 416-789-5691
>E-Mail: shiff@kaspu.com
>
>
>My associate in the USA, who is like me, is:
>Donald Ray Ellis
>aka Pat Blakely/RevWhite/Mike Kalvatis/Rob Stewart ET AL
>108 E. Victory Street
>Star City, Arkansas 71667
>Tel: (870) 628-1437
>Email: voiceofreason@blakely.harrogate.net
>
>
>Posted courtesy of : Paul Kneisel, who likes late
>night discussions, even from Christian Identity,
>Pamyat, Aryan Nations, Stormfront, HAMAS, etc.
>I am together with McVay and L.Schiff,
>regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers to his homosexuals escorts office:
>1-250-616-9431
>Or, VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to work:(780)492-0473
>
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the website for JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>National Alliance - www.natvan.com
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay. May he rot in hell.



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Pointless to continue trying to present the facts on Wikipedia.

                ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Why is Wikipedia Censoring Me?

by James Bacque

In 1989, I published the first in a series of books about the Second
World War and its aftermath. The first, Other Losses, showed the
tremendous atrocities committed against enemy prisoners in the prison
camps of the US and France after 1945. The next, Just Raoul, was a
biography of a hero of the French Resistance who saved many refugees
>from Nazi death camps. The next, Crimes and Mercies, described the
full extent of all allied crimes against Germans, plus the wonderful
charity work of Canada and the USA in saving 800 million people,
including Germans, Japanese and Italians, from starving to death in
the hungry years after 1945. The next, Dear Enemy, illuminated the
attitudes of the western allies to Germany from 1945 to now.

Wikipedia reviews and criticizes only Other Losses, and in such a
biassed way, that I finally tried to correct their many errors.
Starting in March, 2006, I tried repeatedly over many weeks to correct
the errors, but found that within a day at first, then within hours,
and finally within minutes, some Wikipedian editor had expunged my
corrections, replacing them with ever more hostile and denigrating
allegations. Friends of mine tried also to correct the flawed
Wikipedia article, but found the same situation. Finally we decided
that Wikipedia was deliberately censoring my contributions, and that
it was pointless to continue trying to present the facts on Wikipedia.
After Serendipity (already acquainted with censorship at Wikipedia)
heard of this situation I was offered the chance to publish the real
story, which appears below.

Wikipedia quotes Stephen E. Ambrose as saying that Other Losses is
"... spectacularly flawed ..." without saying that Ambrose also wrote
that "You have made a major historical discovery which will ... span
the oceans and have reverberations for decades, yea centuries to come.
You have the goods on these guys ..."

Wikipedia does not say that Ambrose changed his mind only after he was
retained by the US Army to lecture at the War College in Pennsylvania.
Nor does Wikipedia mention that in his attack on me in the New York
Times, he admitted that he had not done the necessary research to
reach the conclusions that he published in that same article.
Wikipedia fails to mention that the Ambrose it cites as an authority
admitted that he had plagiarized several other authors. Wikipedia does
not concern itself with the accusations that Ambrose stole work from a
graduate student which he published as his own.

Wikipedia ignores my book, Crimes and Mercies, which goes far towards
balancing the record of western actions after World War Two. The book
shows the great charity extended by the western allies, chiefly Canada
and the USA, towards the starving around the world after WW2,
including the Japanese and Germans. Saying that the overwhelming
majority of professional historians reject my work, and citing as an
authority one historian who has never worked in this field, Wikipedia
ignores the support given me by the eminent US Army military historian
Col. Dr. Ernest F. Fisher, a former Senior Historian of the US Army
Center for Military History, Washington. Fisher, a professional
historian for decades, wrote the official US Army history of the
campaign in Italy. He assisted me for months in researching documents
in the US National Archives, wrote the Introduction to my book Other
Losses, and has supported me with public statements for the seventeen
years since its first publication. He helped me for many months
researching in the archives.

Wikipedia does not mention the expert editing, research help and
public support given me by the eminent epidemiologist and
biostatistician, Dr Anthony B. Miller, former head of the Department
of Biostatistics at the University of Toronto.

Wikipedia also casts aside the support given my work by Richard Overy,
King's College, University of London; Otto Kimminich, University of
Regensburg; Dr Alfred De Zayas, author of many books on postwar German
history; Prof. Dr. Peter Hoffmann, McGill University, author of the
most expert books on the German resistance; Prof. J. K. Johnson,
Carleton University, Ottawa; Professor Ralph Raico, University of
Buffalo; Prof. Ed Peterson, University of Wisconsin; Prof Ralph Scott,
University of Iowa; Prof. Pierre Van Den Berghe, University of
Seattle; Prof. Dr Richard Mueller, former head, Department of English,
University of Aachen; Prof. Hans Koch, University of York and many
others.

Among writers who have approved my work and supported me are Julian
Barnes; Nikolai Tolstoy; John Fraser, Master of Massey College,
Toronto; John Bemrose of Toronto; Robert Kroetsch, Winnipeg; and many
others. My work has been published around in the world in ten
languages by Macmillan, Little, Brown, Prima, Ullstein, Editions Sand,
McClelland and Stewart, New Press, and many many others.

Finally, the most glaring omission is that the massive and detailed
KGB Archives in Moscow have millions of documents whose evidence
completely confirms the statistical work in Other Losses. The math is
simple: about 1.5 million German prisoners alive in allied prison
camps at the end of the war never came home, nor were their deaths
reported to the German government, their families, the International
Red Cross or the UN. The figure was determined by the Adenauer
government in Germany, submitted to the UN, and has never been
disputed by anyone. Thus when Other Losses came out in 1989, alleging
deaths of about one million in French and American camps, that left
about 500,000 to be accounted for. They could have died only in the
KGB camps, because there were not half a million prisoners in any
other camps in the world. Thus, in effect Other Losses was predicting
that when the communists opened the KGB archives, they would show
deaths of about 500,000. And lo and behold, when Gorbachev brought
down the communist rule, and the archives were opened, I went there,
and found the Bulanov Report which showed that 356,687 Germans died in
Soviet captivity, plus another 93,900 civilians taken as substitutes
for dead or escaped prisoners for a total of 450,587.

This astonishing discovery is not mentioned in Wikipedia, nor by any
other of the "professional historians." Except one, Stefan Karner, who
went to the KGB archives, saw the evidence piled up in enormous
quantities, and said he did not believe it. Instead, he preferred to
publish his own "estimates," which confirm the conventional view.

*
Information about books written by James Bacque may be found on his
website World War 2 Books.

*
http://serendipity.li/hr/bacque_on_wikipedia.htm 

panPiotrGlownia wrote:
> Could it be that Wikipedia is taking orders from the Christkillers,
> who want only THEIR version of history promoted? 


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On 1 Aug 2006 17:04:37 -0700, in ab.politics "auldbobpeffers@aol.com"
 wrote:

With the rising tide of anti-Jewish hostility in Europe getting so much
attention in recent years, it is somewhat surprising that an equally
worrisome trend across the Atlantic has gone largely unnoticed,
mounting anti-Semitism in Canada.

With 360,000 Jews, Canada is home to the fifth largest Jewish community
outside of Israel, and America's northern neighbor has long prided
itself for its tolerance, openness, and freedom. But that legacy is now
under assault amid a spate of recent, and deeply troubling, incidents.

Over the past few, there have been many high profile anti-Semitic
incidents in Canada. Synagogues have been the targets of arson attacks,
Jewish day schools have received bomb threats, and there have been
numerous property crimes and hate propaganda directed against Jews and
their institutions. The most serious incident occurred in July of 2002,
when David Rosenzweig, an Orthodox Jew, was murdered outside a kosher
restaurant in Toronto by a neo-Nazi skinhead.

For a country that has spent the past two decades fostering
multiculturalism and decrying xenophobia, the spate of anti-Semitism in
Canada is especially disconcerting. The fact that it has received less
global attention than it deserves does not take away from the danger
which it poses to Canadian society and its democratic institutions.

One Jew was already murdered in the heart of Toronto because of his
identity. It is time for the Canadian government to step in and take a
firmer stand against anti-Semitism, before this age-old prejudice
claims any more victims.

Since Stephen Harper assumed the leadership of the new Conservative
Party of Canada,
all of the progressive, centrist, practical, reasonable, pluralistic
policies held by the former
Progressive Conservative Party of Canada have been almost completely
abolished from
the new Conservative Party of Canada. Furthermore, all socially
moderate conservatives
such as Red Tories and Libertarians have been either silenced or purged
>from positions of
power within the new Conservative Party of Canada; and replaced with
American style
Conservatives who harbour racist, sexist, homophobic, bigoted,
recklessly populist,
rigidly social conformist ideals. Among those who have been card
carrying members
of the former Reform Party/Canadian Alliance in the past and who are
ethier themselves
still members and/or have influential supporters currently within the
new Conservative Party
of Canada seem to be many anti-Semites.

In particular, Stockwell Day, the former leader of the old Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance which has now more or less simply been
rebranded and repackaged as the new Conservative Party of Canada, has
come under suspicion for his past remarks. Charges that Stockwell Day
is an anti-Semite, or at least in the past promoted hostility to Jews,
continue to circulate. During the Reform Party/Canadian Alliance
leadership race Stockwell Day tried to lay such allegations to rest.
Yet questions about Stockwell Day's beliefs persist. Stockwell Day is
currently Canada's Minister for Public Safety.

Stockwell Day has a past association with James Keegstra, a vile
holocaust denier and notorious anti-Semite. As a church school
principal and spokesman for the Alberta Association of Independent
Church Schools, Stockwell Day promoted a Christian fundamentalist
curriculum that included materials that denounced Jews, Muslims, and
the purported, "liberal-humanist fallacy of democratic government". And
last but not least, there is the new Conservative Party of Canada
itself-its policies and origins and the people
it attracts. The new Conservative Party of Canada's own predecessor,
the Reform Party/Canadian Alliance, frequently made racist, sexist,
homophobic, anti-feminist,
anti-immigrant, anti-French Canadian, anti-Quebec, anti-Ontario,
anti-Atlantic Canadian,
remarks and blatently Anglo chauvinist appeals.

During the 2000 federal election campaign, the former Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance had sought to depict the most impoverished and
marginalized section of Canada's population, the native peoples, as a
"coddled minority". Unlike the Reform Party/Canadian Alliance, the new
Conservative Party of Canada does not expressly call for a sharp cut in
immigration, but it suggests, even if its subtlety and by way of
remarks made by its backbench MPs, that the Liberals have been allowing
the wrong type of people into the country. Several former Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance candidates during the 2000 federal election
campaign made even more blatant appeals to anti-immigrant prejudice.
Calgary Center MP Eric Lowther has said Canadians could use the Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance's scheme for citizen-initiated referenda to
limit immigration. Betty Granger resigned as a Reform Party/Canadian
Alliance candidate in Winnipeg after she spoke of an "Asian invasion"
of Canada's West Coast and accused Sri Lankan Tamil immigrants of using
Canada to support "terrorism". Many of these vile, disgusting,
despicably racist comments from former Reform Party/Canadian Alliance
candidates beg the question: How many of these same candidates,
employees, and MPs both past and present are still actively involved
with the new Conservative Party of Canada?.

Neo-Nazi scumbag James Keegstra and his associate Jim Green, a fellow
anti-Semite and an official in the national Social Credit party,
attended prayer meetings led by current Conservative Party of Canada
foreign affairs critic Stockwell Day. Moreover, according to James
Keegstra, in 1983 and 1984 he and Stockwell Day had chats about
"freedom of speech issues" and James Keegstra's own case.

In May 1983 the Tory Premier of Alberta, Peter Lougheed, felt it
necessary to deliver a prepared speech to the provincial legislature
that condemned James Keegstra's views as "unequivocally racial,
religiously prejudiced, historically inaccurate and distorted." He
pledged the province would undertake a review of the curriculum and
classroom monitoring to ensure "greater tolerance and respect for
minority groups."

Reputedly, Stockwell Day first met James Keegstra in 1983, after James
Keegstra, who had been fired from his job at the Eckville public high
school, moved to Bentley so he could work as an auto mechanic. Earlier
this year, Green told freelance journalist Gordon Laird that Day "had
said he wanted to be one of the first ones in there when Keegstra
opened his garage."

In Bentley, James Keegstra continued his fascist political activities.
He won election to the post of second vice-president for Alberta of the
national Social Credit Party and with Green founded the Christian
Defence League to raise founds for his battles with the Alberta
government and courts. In 1984, the arch neo-Nazi Ernst Zundel made the
pilgrimage to Bentley to solidarize himself with James Keegstra.

It might appear strange that someone like the new Conservative Party of
Canada's foreign affairs critic Stockwell Day, who was involved in his
own struggle with the government and interested in making a career in
politics, did not take pains to disassociate himself from fascists scum
like James Keegstra and Jim Green. But anti-Semitism has long had a
popular base in rural Alberta, where it has fed off two distinct but
intertwined traditions,
that of extreme right-wing Protestant fundamentalism and extreme
right-wing populism.

>From 1935 to 1971, Alberta was ruled by a party that drew its name and
initial political inspiration from the doctrine of Social Credit.
"Bible Bill" Aberhart, the preacher who founded Alberta's Social Credit
Party, made openly anti-Semitic speeches and, as a concession to
the social credit ideologues in his party, founded a government board
to disseminate social credit propaganda, principally populist and
anti-Semitic writings. In 1947-48, Aberhart's successor as Alberta
premier, Ernest Manning (father of Reform Party/Canadian Alliance
Preston Manning), purged the party's leadership of anti-Semites and
closed down the Social Credit Board. But anti-Semitic views continued
to circulate among the Social Credit periphery and feed into the
religious intolerance promoted by extreme right-wing Protestant
Fundamentalist sects, who exercised a great deal of power within the
party.

In 1980s Alberta, anti-Semitic views were not the exclusive preserve of
the remnants of the Social Credit party. One reason Alberta Premier
Lougheed publicly denounced James Keegstra was that one of his own Tory
MLAs had given a press interview in which he claimed he had never seen
"any evidence Jews were subject to mass extermination or even
persecuted under the Nazi regime". This sort of vile, disgusting,
dispicable anti-Semitism
and Holocaust denial is to be found within the grassroots of the new
Conservative Party of Canada's Alberta faction.

Neo-Nazi scumbag trash James Keegstra is a product of rural Alberta's
right-wing religious/political tradition. Stockwell Day, by contrast,
was drawn to Bentley, which has been called the buckle in Alberta's
Bible belt, by his increasing commitment to religious fundamentalism.
While Stockwell Day reportedly disagreed with James Keegstra and Jim
Green about their virulent hatred of Jews, he gravitated to the very
milieu of fundamentalist religion and political reaction from which
they emerged. Moreover, Stockwell Day, whether because of sympathy or
political calculation, saw no reason to vigorously disassociate himself
>from ethier of this Neo-Nazi pigs. For their part, James Keegstra and
Jim Green continue to express admiration for Stockwell Day, thus
further underscoring that their
parting, such as it was, was amicable.

Stockwell Day's successful struggle to secure legal recognition for 15
unlicensed Christian schools, including his own Bentley Christian
Training School, helped precipitate his entry into party politics. In
this fight, Stockwell Day vigorously advocated before various
government bodies the Accelerated Christian Education (ACE) curriculum
prepared by the Texas-based School of Tomorrow. He even said that he
was prepared "to go to jail, if need be" to uphold the right of his
school to chose what it taught.

The ACE curriculum propagated the views of the American religious
right, and arguably its more extreme elements. The curriculum was
criticized by an Alberta government Committee on Tolerance and
Understanding as promoting "a degree of insensitivity towards blacks,
Jews and natives." According to Ron Ghitter, the Committee's chairman
and a Tory of Jewish decent, "ACE schools were schools of dogma ...the
kids who came out had sort of a twisted Christianity with anti-Semitic
overtones." Remember folks, the Conservative Party of
Canada's Stockwell Day could become our next foreign minister!!!.

The ACE curriculum dismissed evolution and espoused "creation science."
Science booklets instructed, "Not all sickness is caused by demons, but
some sickness is."

Democracy was condemned, while Ian Smith, the prime minister of the
white minority-led Republic of Rhodesia, Ian Paisley, Northern
Ireland's anti-Catholic demagogue, and Chilean military dictator
Augusto Pinochet were lauded. Democracy, declared an ACE publication,
"represent(s) the ultimate deification of man, which is the very
essence of humanism and totally alien to God's word."

Obviously, there is the difficulty of explaining how a man purportedly
free of antipathy to Jews simultaneously found himself keeping company
with virulent anti-Semites and fighting for the right to use a school
curriculum which included anti-Semitic materials. More fundamentally,
Stockwell Day's defenders are most anxious that his fundamentalist
beliefs and the right-wing political tradition from which he emerges
not be made the object of public scrutiny, because they recognize the
vast majority of Canadians will find them abhorrent.

If not anti-Semitism per se, certainly intolerant attitudes toward
women, jews, gays, lesbians, bi-sexuals, trangendered people,
aboriginals, and other historically marginal groups seem to be integral
both to the new Conservative Party of Canada and the
political-religious make-up of Stockwell Day and many others within the
party.



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On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:21:11 -0400, in soc.culture.usa "serwad"
 wrote:

Israeli diplomat arrested on suspicion of pedophilia
An Israeli diplomat, Yosef Sagiv, was arrested Friday in the American city  of
Atlanta on suspicion of computer related offences linked to pornography  and
the sexual exploitation of children.

This sort of thing seems to happen a lot with Israeli diplomats.
Sex Scandal Past Haunts New Envoy 
The Strange Case of the Disappearing Diplomat 
Israel Has Second Thoughts on Consul
Israeli Consul in Nude Picture Storm
Australia Consul Appointment Reviewed
Diplomat Said to Unnerve Women
Jewish Diplomat Involved in Child Prostitution Scandal
Brazil Links Israeli Consul to Child Prostitution
Wanted Israeli Diplomat Flees Brazil
The Principal Villains of Brasilian Pedofilia Crimes
Brazilian Police Stake Out Diplomat Accused of Running Kiddie-Porn Ring 




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On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:14:51 -0400, in soc.culture.usa "serwad"
 wrote:

Provided By:  The Associated Press
Last Modified: 9/1/2006 12:38:12 PM

ATLANTA (AP) -- An employee of Israel's consulate in Atlanta was arrested
Thursday on charges that he used the Internet to try to lure a minor into
having sex.

Yosef Sagiv Ofri was indicted by a grand jury in Columbia County yesterday.

District Attorney Daniel Craig of Augusta says the 37-year-old Ofri was
arrested at about 7:30 a.m. outside his home in DeKalb County, near Atlanta.

Craig says authorities also obtained a warrant to search Ofri's home, 
according to a statement from Craig's office.

The indictment says that Ofri used e-mail and online messages to lure a  child
>from Columbia County-about two hours east of Atlanta-for "illegal acts
relating to sodomy, aggravated sodomy, child molestation and aggravated  child
molestation."

Captain Steve Morris of the Columbia County Sheriff's office said Ofri works
for the Israeli Consulate in Atlanta.

He said officials from the consulate visited with Ofri today at the county's
detention center, where he is being held.

The Jerusalem Post reports that Ofri is a security officer with the 
consulate and carries an Israeli diplomatic passport. 


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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:14:14 -0700, VicRCurious@hotmail.com wrote:

Not only in Canada are the Russian ZYD Mafia making false claims as
alleged "REFUGEES" from israel, just so they can jump the queue for
immigration, as well as being parasites on the taxpayers of the host
countries!!

Just ask taxpayers in Australia and New Zealand about their Israelis!


>On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:36:26 -0700, Frank Arthur 
>wrote:
>
>>In a banner headline story on the front page of the issue of Canadian
>>Jew News for January 18 2007, is a huge story detailing how Israelis
>>are filing fraudulent claims as "REFUGEES", to jump the immigration
>>queues, and get into Canada.
>>
>>Even the Embassy in Canada for Israel is enraged about these false
>>claims, usually made by people who emigrated to Israel from the former
>>Soviet Union. They state categorically that these claims are
>>spurious!!
>>
>>The Israeli newspaper Ha'Aretz had a feature story in their issue for
>>31 December 2006. The article claimed that in year 2005 there were 679
>>claims as refugees made by these criminals, with many of these false
>>claims made to Canadian authorities.
>>
>>Canadian Jew News claims that 369 claims were made by Israelis
>>claiming refugee status in the 9 months from January to September 2006
>>alone!!
>>
>>The crooked Canadian Refugee people allowed 91 of these criminals to
>>stay in Canada at taxpayer expense!! In fact Israel has made the top
>>10 list of source countries for people claiming refugee status in the
>>first 3 quarters of 2006!!
>>
>>In fact, since 2000, almost 3,000 Israelis have claimed refugee
>>status, so that they can stay in Canada and live off Canadian
>>taxpayers with their fraudulent claims.



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On 12 Feb 2007 17:24:18 -0800, in soc.culture.palestine "Zionism is a cancer
growing on Uncle Sam's ass. -"  wrote:

Israeli historian: "blood libel" not completely unfounded
By Khalid Amayreh
Feb 12, 2007, 19:15

Reports

A prominent Israeli Jewish historian has revealed that the medieval
canard about Jews killing Christian children and using their blood in
making pasta for the Jewish holiday of Passover is not entirely
unfounded.

Ariel Toaff, Professor of History at the Bar-Illan University argued
in a new book, published recently in Italy, that "there is a factual
basis for some of the medieval blood libels against the Jews."

"I tried to show that the Jewish world at that time was also violent,
among other things because it had been hurt by Christian violence. I
don't claim that Judaism condones murder. But within Ashkenazi
Judaism, there were extremist groups that could have committed such an
act and justified it."

In an interview with the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz Monday, 12
February, Toaff said he reached this conclusion after examining the
records of the trial for the murder, ostensibly by Jews, of a
Christian child, Simon of Trento in 1475.

The 3-year-old child went missing around Easter in Trento, Italy, in
March 1475 and his father accused the Jews of the town of kidnapping
and murdering him, and then draining his blood for use in baking their
Passover matzohs and also for occult rituals secretly adhered to by
them.

The leaders of the Jewish community in Trento were arrested and
seventeen of them confessed to the murder, probably under torture.
Fifteen of them, including Samule, the head of the community, were
sentenced to death and burned at the stake.

"I found there were statements and parts of the testimony that were
not part of the Christian culture of the judges, and they could not
have been invented or added by them. They were components appearing in
prayers known from the Jewish prayer book," Toaff was quoted as
saying.

He argued that the established view that Ashkenazi Jews didn't use
human blood on Passover was not entirely true.

"Over many dozens of pages I proved the centrality of blood on
Passover.

"Based on many sermons, I concluded that blood was used, especially by
Ashkenazi Jews, and that there was a belief in the special curative
powers of children's blood. It turns out that among the remedies of
Ashkenazi Jews were powders made of blood."

Toaff said that although the use of blood was prohibited by Jewish
religious law, he found proof of rabbinic permission to use blood,
even human blood.

Toaff has been the target of vitriolic attacks and vilifications by
Jewish leaders and commentators for "vindicating anti-Semitism" and
giving anti-Semites a "cause celebre."

Bar-Illan University President Moshe Kaveh said he would summon Toaff
to explain his research once he returned from Italy.

Israeli and Jewish commentators, as well as talks-backers on several
Israeli websites, have been heaping calumny on Toaff, calling him,
inter alia, "self-hating Jew" and "collaborator with anti-Semites."

However, Toaff said he wouldn't be silenced no matter how vociferous
are the criticisms of his book.

"I will not give up my devotion to the truth and academic freedom even
if the world crucifies me."

http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/printer_21417.shtml



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On 10 Feb 2007 12:14:16 -0800, in alt.revisionism "thedarkman"
 wrote:

I wouldn't pay much attention to the nutter who appeared on Oprah; I
remember that, it caused eruptions at the time. So what do we have
here then? A Jewish academic who admits that hey, maybe Jews had their
bad guys too, maybe they had their share of bloodthirsty, superstious
bigots. Like I said before, this really is no big deal for me, but
watch the shabbez goyim like Mock scream, watch the ADL shriek. Don't
these people make you wanna laugh?


http://www.honestmediatoday.com/professor_admits_jewish_ritual_murder.htm


  Jewish Professor Admits Jewish Cult Engaged in Past Jewish Ritual
Murders

According to a recent report by the newspaper "The Guardian," Jewish
Prof. Ariel Toaff, who is a professor at Bar-Ilan University in Israel
of Medieval Jewish history but is currently a visiting professor in
Italy, has written a book,"Pasque di Sangue" (Easter of Blood), which
describes Jewish ritual murder rites of Jews in the past.

Some details of the book were published in the paper "Corriere Della
Sera," which also has an online section describing the book.

Prof. Toaff's book reportedly "describes the mutilation and
crucifixion of a two-year-old boy to recreate Christ's execution at
Pesach, the Jewish Easter. The festival marks the fleeing of the Jews
>from Egypt and Prof Toaff says Christian blood was used for 'magic and
therapeutic practices,'" noted the Guardian. Further describing the
bizarre and hateful customs of Jewish extremists, Prof. Toaff noted
that Jewish occultists would sometimes mix blood in their matzo balls,
which was eaten during their religious rites.

He also describes many children who were reportedly crucified on the
cross.

Unsurprisingly, many Jewish supremacists quickly denied Prof. Toaff's
accurate findings in an attempt to hide their ancient, bizarre, and
frightening customs from the general public.

However, Prof. Toaff was hardly the first to acknowledge such crimes
in recent times. Indeed, in more recent times, a Jewish lady had
appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show several years ago and described how
some of her relatives had engaged in similar crimes. The honest and
brave Jewish lady, Vicki Polin (who used the pseudonym of "Rachel" on
the Oprah Winfrey show to avoid reprisals), told of how her family had
engaged in some extremely bizarre Satanic Jewish kabbalistic rites,
including that of infanticide (video of Oprah's interview with Polin).

In the interview, Oprah asked the young woman, who undoubtedly had
been traumatized by the ordeal, about what exactly had occurred. Oprah
opened the discussion, telling of how the poor girl had grown up in a
family that "participated in human sacrifice," undoubtedly causing
emotional scars that may never heal.

Here is part of the interview:

OPRAH: ...You come from generations of ritualistic abuse?

POLIN: Yes, my family has an extensive family tree, and they keep
track of who's been involved and who hasn't been involved, and it's
gone back to like 1700.

OPRAH: And so you were ritually abused.

POLIN: Right. I was born into a family that believes in this.

OPRAH: Does everyone else think it's a nice Jewish family? From the
outside, you appear to be a nice Jewish girl?

POLIN: Definitely.

OPRAH: And you all are worshipping the devil inside the home?

POLIN: Right. There's other Jewish families across the country. It's
not just my own family.

OPRAH: Really? And so who knows about it? Lots of people now.

POLIN: Well, I talked to a police detective in the Chicago area, and
several of my friends know, and I've spoke publicly before, and...

OPRAH: So when you were brought up in this kind of evilness, did you
just think it was normal?

RACHEL: I blocked out a lot of the memories I had because of my
multiple personality disorder, but, yes. I mean, it's like if you grow
up with something, you think it's normal. I always thought
something...

OPRAH: So what kinds of things? You don't have to give us the gory
details, but what kinds of things went on in the family?

POLIN: Well, there would be rituals in which babies would be
sacrificed, and you would have to, you know...

[end of Oprah excerpt]

You can read more about Polin's ordeal at the website Lukeford.net,
which also describes many exchanges from Jews about this whole ordeal.
No doubt, it has caused a big scandal among them, with one of their
own reportedly acknowledging such grisly crimes.


Polin is now the CEO of the Awareness Center, which honorably works to
prevent ritual abuse and other acts of child cruelty.

In more recent times, the book "Blood Ritual" by Philip DeVier and the
DVD "Jewish Ritual Murder Revisited: The Hidden Cult Revealed," the
latter having an interview with noted scholar Dr. Harrell Rhome and
also being found online in streamable format, have also covered this
wicked crime committed by Jewish extremists (video).

There is no reason to believe that all Jews commit ritualistic
infanticide. However, there appears to be too much evidence to neglect
such crimes altogether in the past. If committed today, it is mostly
occurring in Israel, where Jewish occults and extremists remain
rampant, and possibly occurring elsewhere in small numbers, often
attributed as Satanic acts.



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On 10 Feb 2007 12:14:16 -0800, in alt.revisionism "thedarkman"
 wrote:

I wouldn't pay much attention to the nutter who appeared on Oprah; I
remember that, it caused eruptions at the time. So what do we have
here then? A Jewish academic who admits that hey, maybe Jews had their
bad guys too, maybe they had their share of bloodthirsty, superstious
bigots. Like I said before, this really is no big deal for me, but
watch the shabbez goyim like Mock scream, watch the ADL shriek. Don't
these people make you wanna laugh?


http://www.honestmediatoday.com/professor_admits_jewish_ritual_murder.htm


  Jewish Professor Admits Jewish Cult Engaged in Past Jewish Ritual
Murders

According to a recent report by the newspaper "The Guardian," Jewish
Prof. Ariel Toaff, who is a professor at Bar-Ilan University in Israel
of Medieval Jewish history but is currently a visiting professor in
Italy, has written a book,"Pasque di Sangue" (Easter of Blood), which
describes Jewish ritual murder rites of Jews in the past.

Some details of the book were published in the paper "Corriere Della
Sera," which also has an online section describing the book.

Prof. Toaff's book reportedly "describes the mutilation and
crucifixion of a two-year-old boy to recreate Christ's execution at
Pesach, the Jewish Easter. The festival marks the fleeing of the Jews
>from Egypt and Prof Toaff says Christian blood was used for 'magic and
therapeutic practices,'" noted the Guardian. Further describing the
bizarre and hateful customs of Jewish extremists, Prof. Toaff noted
that Jewish occultists would sometimes mix blood in their matzo balls,
which was eaten during their religious rites.

He also describes many children who were reportedly crucified on the
cross.

Unsurprisingly, many Jewish supremacists quickly denied Prof. Toaff's
accurate findings in an attempt to hide their ancient, bizarre, and
frightening customs from the general public.

However, Prof. Toaff was hardly the first to acknowledge such crimes
in recent times. Indeed, in more recent times, a Jewish lady had
appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show several years ago and described how
some of her relatives had engaged in similar crimes. The honest and
brave Jewish lady, Vicki Polin (who used the pseudonym of "Rachel" on
the Oprah Winfrey show to avoid reprisals), told of how her family had
engaged in some extremely bizarre Satanic Jewish kabbalistic rites,
including that of infanticide (video of Oprah's interview with Polin).

In the interview, Oprah asked the young woman, who undoubtedly had
been traumatized by the ordeal, about what exactly had occurred. Oprah
opened the discussion, telling of how the poor girl had grown up in a
family that "participated in human sacrifice," undoubtedly causing
emotional scars that may never heal.

Here is part of the interview:

OPRAH: ...You come from generations of ritualistic abuse?

POLIN: Yes, my family has an extensive family tree, and they keep
track of who's been involved and who hasn't been involved, and it's
gone back to like 1700.

OPRAH: And so you were ritually abused.

POLIN: Right. I was born into a family that believes in this.

OPRAH: Does everyone else think it's a nice Jewish family? From the
outside, you appear to be a nice Jewish girl?

POLIN: Definitely.

OPRAH: And you all are worshipping the devil inside the home?

POLIN: Right. There's other Jewish families across the country. It's
not just my own family.

OPRAH: Really? And so who knows about it? Lots of people now.

POLIN: Well, I talked to a police detective in the Chicago area, and
several of my friends know, and I've spoke publicly before, and...

OPRAH: So when you were brought up in this kind of evilness, did you
just think it was normal?

RACHEL: I blocked out a lot of the memories I had because of my
multiple personality disorder, but, yes. I mean, it's like if you grow
up with something, you think it's normal. I always thought
something...

OPRAH: So what kinds of things? You don't have to give us the gory
details, but what kinds of things went on in the family?

POLIN: Well, there would be rituals in which babies would be
sacrificed, and you would have to, you know...

[end of Oprah excerpt]

You can read more about Polin's ordeal at the website Lukeford.net,
which also describes many exchanges from Jews about this whole ordeal.
No doubt, it has caused a big scandal among them, with one of their
own reportedly acknowledging such grisly crimes.


Polin is now the CEO of the Awareness Center, which honorably works to
prevent ritual abuse and other acts of child cruelty.

In more recent times, the book "Blood Ritual" by Philip DeVier and the
DVD "Jewish Ritual Murder Revisited: The Hidden Cult Revealed," the
latter having an interview with noted scholar Dr. Harrell Rhome and
also being found online in streamable format, have also covered this
wicked crime committed by Jewish extremists (video).

There is no reason to believe that all Jews commit ritualistic
infanticide. However, there appears to be too much evidence to neglect
such crimes altogether in the past. If committed today, it is mostly
occurring in Israel, where Jewish occults and extremists remain
rampant, and possibly occurring elsewhere in small numbers, often
attributed as Satanic acts.



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This hotel & casino is owned by a group out of Vienna, Austria.

Have their standards of operation sunk so low, that they must resort to
SWINDLING, and having an UNSAFE hotel as well?

perhaps people in Austria may wish to comment?


On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 07:28:44 -0700, Frank Arthur  wrote:

>The new Century Casino have been flooding homes in Edmonton with flyers,
>promoting supposed deals at their restaurant.

>They are claiming buffet breakfasts on Wednesdays for only $1,99.
>In their flyer they also advertise FREE COFFEE between 9-11 a.m.

>However, they are CHARGING FOR THE COFFEES when one gets the 
>buffet breakfast, which is FRAUD!!

>If you want toast with the scrambled eggs, they charge for that extra!!
>The scrambled eggs with bacon or ham or sausage is edible, but no toast, 
>no waffles, no pancackes means there is no choice!!

>To really get seniors angry, one is forced to wait in a lineup from 8;45 until
>9:30 to get seated, because of no line-up supervision by hotel staff. What was
>happening was that several  slimeballs  in the lineup would take a whole table
>for 6. Then his buddies would show up after half an hour, and jump the line-up
>to take over the table for another half hour. 3 groups did this, with people
>in the lineup complaining.

>Many of the seniors in the line-up for an hour or more complained, but the
>hotel managers did not give a damn.

>Gamblers, go to a better casino, whether at Northlands, Yellowhead, or River
>Cree, and AVOID CENTURY CASINO (formerly Londonderry Inn) on the Fort Road.

>Maybe when enough people avoid this dump then perhaps the owners in Colorado
>and Vienna Austria will realise they need to replace the so-called managers!!



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Notice that there has been a pleasant absence of the vile frothings of the
nazi Dezi Cohen, alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

Could it be that Paris welfare finally said to this criminal from the UK -
merde, vas y!!

>>From: Vishnu - destroyer of Nazi Coughlan's support of the Shoah
>>
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>>Subject: Re: Dezi gets Close + Personal With Noles Who Exposed Him as Nazi
>>-IS DEZI NOW DECEASED?
>>Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:28:24 -0700
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>><1138284284.559780.288030@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

>>On 26 Jan 2006 06:04:44 -0800, "Philippe 'Suffer the little children to come
>>onto me and give me a blowjob' KKKoughlan " 
>>after lovingly laving his tongue around the lips of his bust to Hitler wrote:

>>>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/
>>Oh, my... KKKoughlan is again displaying his affection for Grosvenor.
>>Arguing between themselves as to who hates the Jews more.  The fight
>>is on... and the votes are now being cast.  Does Grosvenor or KKKoughlan
>>hate the Jews more?

>>Think KKK doesn't hate the Jews?  Think again.  This is just a short list
>>of his past comments demonstrating his support for Nazi doctrine and
>>the "innocence" (sic) of every Nazi --

>>His words -- "The issue is whether or not, the Nazis, in declaring
>>Jews 'inhuman', were acting illegally.  They were not."  See --
>>http://groups.google.fr/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/8fcc1c8e5cb0f3d3
>>Him finding that it is LEGAL to declare the Jews as "inhuman."

>>His words -- "The Holocaust was 'a just execution for those found
>>guilty of being Jewish'."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/9e47adb28f22faaf
>>
>>His words -- "even Auschwitz would not execute a 72-year-old man..."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/2e39751aaf992176
>>Insisting that Auschwitz was "more humane" than California.  And one elder
>>murderers is more valuable than every elderly Jewish victim of the Holocaust.
>>
>>His words -- "'The Holocaust' is a term used to refer to the legal execution
>>of 6,000,000 Jews in the Second World War."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/88e428e1da2cf26f
>>
>>His words -- "the attempted extermination of the Jews was legal..."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/0a0dee548a7e68d6
>>
>>His words -- "if it's legal, it's moral, Jed"  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/4e24f3730b022c53
>>Him finding it MORAL to find the Jews "legally inhuman" and MORAL
>>to kill six million of them.
>>
>>His words -- "Are we to accept the word of a committee, bent
>>on revenge, which in itself violated the human rights of the Nazis ? See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/944deb89e3e1b631
>>
>>His words posted with a slap in the face to the contributions of Simon
>>Wiesenthal -- 
>>"At the same time, let no one forget that the kidnap and hanging of Eichmann,
>>was a crime under international law."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7acc13b56d18263c
>>Essentially calling Simon Wiesenthal both a kidnapper and complicit in what
>>KKK insists was the "murder by lynching" of Eichmann.
>>
>>In respect to the question -- "Should Maurice Papon still be imprisoned ?"
>>His words -- "Isn't there room for mercy ?  For the sure knowledge that this
>>91-year-  old man, isn't in a position to harm anyone."
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/5d44b6c90151f6c4
>>And then begging everyone to forgive every Nazi... because he insist it's been
>>60 years.
>>
>>His words -- "German society said that the extermination of the Jews
>>was a moral, legal, ethical thing to do ..."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/6028d5703b310f29
>>Blaming every German for the Holocaust, in the most bigoted
>>and hateful comment ever directed against ALL of "German society."
>>He might as well have said -- "Every German was a Nazi guard in an
>>Eastern European extermination camp."  Since his comment means
>>just the same.  A large part of the German population of that time
>>might well have supported various anti-Semitic practices, but the
>>idea that "German society" supported the HOLOCAUST as a
>>"moral, legal, ethical thing to do," is an obscenity on the part of KKK.
>>It is a racist comment, unparalleled by hardly any other racist comment
>>made in AADP.
>>
>>His words -- "In the absolute, the Nazi Holocaust and the death penalty
>>are perfect equivalents, both morally and legally."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/09343f66a6cea661
>>In his words reducing six million innocent Jewish victims murdered in a few
>>short years to no better than a thousand proven murderers executed in more
>>than 25 years.  The fact is the life expectancy of a Jew setting foot in
>>Treblinka was measured in minutes.  Yet he insists that "morally and legally"
>>this was in the absolute no different than the execution of any murderer,
>>making each and every Jew setting foot on Treblinka the same as a proven
>>murderer.
>>
>>His words -- "Europe has not had a war now since 1945, and in
>>matters of morals, has led the world for over two thousand years."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/969ba9ff6d41a2e4
>>A truly bizarre comment from him, which argues that all wars in Europe
>>for the past 2000 years were fought for moral principles.  In addition to
>>him claiming the Holocaust was moral.  And concluding with that
>>obligatory reference to Christ, to support his hate for the Jews, who
>>he insists were responsible for that death those 2000 years ago, with
>>his words -- " Educated Americans are insanely jealous of Europe,
>>for it is on this continent that human rights, philosophy, thought, and
>>science, has been a beacon to the world since the time of Christ."
>>
>>Notice that he DARED to mention "human rights," given the bloody
>>past of Europe and so much hate for the Jews.   The persecution for
>>those 2000 years, the pogroms, the ghettoization, the blaming of the
>>Jews for every ill having befallen Europe in those 2000 years, the
>>crusades of killing Jews, and finally the attempt to exterminate the
>>Jews.  All part of what he argued was the "bright beacon of morality"
>>in Europe during what he insists was "it's Golden age of persecution
>>of the Jews."    Yeah... Americans are in awe and
>>insanely jealous of how perverse and methodically efficient Europeans
>>were at blaming the Jews for all of Europe's problems and dispatching
>>them with such religious fervor during those 2000 years.  Let's all
>>give a big cheer for Jesus 'motherfucker' Christ...the name lent to
>>being responsible as the greatest mass murderer of all time... but
>>KKKoughlan's hero.
>>
>>His words in a very direct insult to the Jews of today -- "yet by
>>milking those terrible events for all they are worth, 60 years later, Israel
>>and World Jewry are only cutting their noses, to spite their face."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/c2ef9625017cc935
>>A comment from him filled with insults toward anyone who would
>>express a pro-Jewish comment of any kind, insisting that being 
>>pro-Jewish means being too biased to actually have a view that
>>is less than 150% pro-Jewish.  Essentially insulting every Jew
>>living today.
>>
>>His words -- "certain sections of the Jewish community use the Shoah to
>>justify their own excesses."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/e18cca69bc258b4f
>>His argument presumes that the Arab community needs no excuse to
>>justify their own excesses.
>>
>>His words -- "Make up your mind: either the Holocaust was mass murder, in
>>which case, so is the death penalty, or the death penalty is 'just', in 
>>which case, so was the extermination of the Jews.   See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/b8c995d30833c827
>>Which is undoubtedly the most ignorantly contrived attempt at pseudo-logic
>>ever witnessed in AADP.  Since the proposition is only true if one equates
>>convicted murderers as the same as innocent Jews.  But looking beyond
>>that his argument is that every person who find the death penalty for
>>even a single murderer, even those such as John Wayne Gacy, or Ted
>>Bundy, or Kenneth McDuff, to be "just," by his definition must also find
>>the Holocaust to have been "just."
>>
>>His words in denial of anti-Semitism in Europe but insisting that the
>>Jews of Israel are anti-Semitic -- "However, it's fatuous to claim that Europe
>>is 'anti-Semitic', based on the number of 'anti-Semitic' events that take
>>place.  If that were the only criterion, then Israel would be the most
>>anti-Semitic country on the planet."  See -- 
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/39504e62ed6562a9
>>Hoping to redefine the meaning of anti-Semitism in the English language
>>and excuse the anti-Semitism of Muslims at the same time.
>>
>>He defended the words of the French ambassador to England, Daniel
>>Bernard, who referred to Israel as "that shitty little country."  In his
>>post that grew hysterical in accusations against the Jews of Israel
>>and defended that perverse comment.  One of his comments in
>>that blast of anti-Semitic raving from him was -- "Israel does not need to
>>kill children, to ensure its survival.  Israel does not need to target the
>>innocent families of suicide bombers, to ensure its survival.  Israel does
>>not need to engage in daily humiliation of innocent men and women, to
>>ensure its survival.  The current policies will hurt Israel more in the
>>long run, than they will help it.  Sharon came to power on a security
>>'ticket', and his brutal repression of the Palestinian people, has _not_
>>ensured the security of Israel and her citizens."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/4d4ec92a10b91a76
>>Of course you will notice the one-sided argument offered in which he
>>excuses children being taught to become suicide bombers to kill
>>innocent Jews.  Forgetting that Arafat came to power on a "kill every
>>Jew" ticket.  As he also admits he is "anti-Jewish government."
>>
>>He claimed the Jews were quite possibly responsible for 9/11.  His
>>words -- "I'd put my money on either Israel, or Pakistan being behind the
>>attacks."  While attempting to totally absolve bin Laden as innocent.  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/ca5cddf2d27b074d
>>
>>Of course he also screamed in rage that -- "No one is 'BORN' (sic) a Jew, you
>>spagmerchant."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7ecf6157652669e5
>>
>>But when it came to providing what he considered "proof" of him being
>>Jewish, he stated --  "I don't believe in God ... but I was 'born Jewish.'
>>See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/e7e8dbd3116d2dc6
>>
>> And how many here... even those who would call him a "friend," have said they
>>believe he is Jewish?  The answer is ZERO.  Even when I cajole them for an
>>answer.
>>While nine have come out and stated here that they do not believe he is
>>Jewish.  All we have is his raving claim, even going so far as to insist he
>>"wears the yellow star" as an insult to the true victims of the Holocaust, and
>>even going so far as to call himself a Rabbi in the use of a handle in AADP,
>>while laughing at the joke he believe he is playing on AADP and the Jews in
>>using that handle.  The fact is well-known that he makes a joke out of playing
>>the role of a Jew, in order to turn the tragedy of the Holocaust into his
>>personal comic parody.
>>
>>And of course we have John Rennie's comment regarding the personal
>>conversation he had with Coughlan when Coughlan admitted he was not Jewish.
>>His words in the same BLOCK LETTERS he posted here -- "DESMOND
>>UNEQUIVOCALLY CONFIRMED TO ME THAT HE WAS NOT
>>JEWISH.   AT THE TIME OF OUR MEETING HE THOUGHT IT A
>>GREAT JOKE AND HE STILL DOES. HE IS NOT JEWISH, HE WAS
>>NOT BORN JEWISH, HE DOES NOT HAVE JEWISH ANCESTRY,
>>HE DOES NOT PRACTICE THE JEWISH RELIGION."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/92c993bba5d24130
>>
>>Planet Visitor II 
>>http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/dict.html
>>
>>KKKoughlan's words -- ""send that 16-year-old niece of yours around to 
>>give me a blowjob whenever I want one." See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/8db6438f040c09bf
>>
>>Perhaps the gentle reader is not aware of KKKoughlan's own feeling as to
>>who he considers a "CHILD."  If so, let me provide KKKoughlan's own
>>words of who he feels is a "CHILD."  His words -- ""the term 'child' isn't
>>defined by you and your NRA buddies.  It's defined in international law,
>>and a 17 year old is a child until his eighteenth birthday."  See --
>>http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/msg/a1b77a27fe4c6928
>>
>>KKKoughlan... a self-admitted pedophile.



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Notice that this is an honest ZYD professor from Israel, who, after much
research, is making public his findings, not some anti-semite.


On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:51:00 -0700, Frank Arthur  wrote:
>From: "Zionism is a cancer growing on Uncle Sam's ass. -"
>
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.palestine
>Subject: Israeli historian: "blood libel" not completely unfounded
>Date: 12 Feb 2007 17:24:18 -0800

>Israeli historian: "blood libel" not completely unfounded
>By Khalid Amayreh
>Feb 12, 2007, 19:15

>A prominent Israeli Jewish historian has revealed that the medieval
>canard about Jews killing Christian children and using their blood in
>making pasta for the Jewish holiday of Passover is not entirely
>unfounded.

>Ariel Toaff, Professor of History at the Bar-Illan University argued
>in a new book, published recently in Italy, that "there is a factual
>basis for some of the medieval blood libels against the Jews."

>"I tried to show that the Jewish world at that time was also violent,
>among other things because it had been hurt by Christian violence. I
>don't claim that Judaism condones murder. But within Ashkenazi
>Judaism, there were extremist groups that could have committed such an
>act and justified it."

>In an interview with the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz Monday, 12
>February, Toaff said he reached this conclusion after examining the
>records of the trial for the murder, ostensibly by Jews, of a
>Christian child, Simon of Trento in 1475.

>The 3-year-old child went missing around Easter in Trento, Italy, in
>March 1475 and his father accused the Jews of the town of kidnapping
>and murdering him, and then draining his blood for use in baking their
>Passover matzohs and also for occult rituals secretly adhered to by
>them.

>The leaders of the Jewish community in Trento were arrested and
>seventeen of them confessed to the murder, probably under torture.
>Fifteen of them, including Samule, the head of the community, were
>sentenced to death and burned at the stake.

>"I found there were statements and parts of the testimony that were
>not part of the Christian culture of the judges, and they could not
>have been invented or added by them. They were components appearing in
>prayers known from the Jewish prayer book," Toaff was quoted as
>saying.

>He argued that the established view that Ashkenazi Jews didn't use
>human blood on Passover was not entirely true.

>"Over many dozens of pages I proved the centrality of blood on
>Passover.

>"Based on many sermons, I concluded that blood was used, especially by
>Ashkenazi Jews, and that there was a belief in the special curative
>powers of children's blood. It turns out that among the remedies of
>Ashkenazi Jews were powders made of blood."

>Toaff said that although the use of blood was prohibited by Jewish
>religious law, he found proof of rabbinic permission to use blood,
>even human blood.

>Toaff has been the target of vitriolic attacks and vilifications by
>Jewish leaders and commentators for "vindicating anti-Semitism" and
>giving anti-Semites a "cause celebre."

>Bar-Illan University President Moshe Kaveh said he would summon Toaff
>to explain his research once he returned from Italy.

>Israeli and Jewish commentators, as well as talks-backers on several
>Israeli websites, have been heaping calumny on Toaff, calling him,
>inter alia, "self-hating Jew" and "collaborator with anti-Semites."

>However, Toaff said he wouldn't be silenced no matter how vociferous
>are the criticisms of his book.

>"I will not give up my devotion to the truth and academic freedom even
>if the world crucifies me."

>http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/printer_21417.shtml



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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
 wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don't give a damn about girls of other
>confessions. 
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>>  wrote:

>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.

>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish 
>> >wrote:

>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest.......

>> >>From: Rameses 
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700
 
>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:

>> >>"Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel's
>> >>thriving sex industry.
 
>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.

>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery".

>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don't
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.


>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
 
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
 
>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore."
>> --John Bryant


>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576

>> together with
 
>> Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431

>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.

>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>> Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked"?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473

>> Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR - www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>     Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>     Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
 
>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.

>> Reply-To: "George" 



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On Tue, 30 May 2006 12:19:07 -0000, Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein 
wrote:

>On 2006-05-30, le Corbeau  wrote ... 

>> wow! is Jew boy a pedophile too??? Such a pervert, his parents must be
>> mortified!

Why do you think that Dezi's dad, a cop, committed suicide?


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On 15 Aug 2006 06:29:08 -0700, in alt.revisionism "GB" 
wrote:

 How Many Survivors Are There?
Studies counted on to allocate funds for the distressed are far apart
on the number.
Stewart Ain - Staff Writer

Two new studies to determine the location of Jewish Holocaust
survivors, for use in making future allocations to the most needy,
differ widely on the number of survivors worldwide, The Jewish Week has
learned.

Sergio Della Pergola, a demographer for the Institute of Contemporary
Jewry at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, found 1,092,000 survivors
worldwide. Jacob Ukeles, a policy researcher in Manhattan, found
688,000.

The Ukeles survey, an update of one he prepared in 2000 for the
Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany, found only minor
differences from his previous effort.

Lawrence Eagleburger, chairman of the International Commission on
Holocaust Era Insurance Claims, commissioned both surveys.

Eagleburger had hoped to use the figures in determining how to
distribute $13.2 million annually in humanitarian funds for needy
survivors worldwide. The funds were obtained as part of a settlement
for unpaid Holocaust-era insurance claims against German and other
European companies.

Brooklyn Federal Judge Edward Korman, who is presiding over the $1.25
billion Swiss bank settlement, has been using the original Ukeles
survey to allocate money to needy Jewish survivors.

Both surveys found the highest percentage of Jewish survivors are
living in Israel. In his updated version, Ukeles reported the figure at
265,000, or 38.5 percent. Della Pergola put the number at 511,000, or
46.8 percent.

The numbers breakdown of where survivors are living:


The United States: Ukeles, 110,000 survivors, or 16 percent; Della
Pergola, 174,000, or 15.9 percent.

Europe: Ukeles, 126,000, or 18.3 percent; Della Pergola, 229,000, or 21
percent.

The former Soviet Union: Ukeles, 150,000, or 21.8 percent; Della
Pergola, 146,000, or 13.4 percent.

Other parts of the world: Ukeles, 38,000, or 5.5 percent; Della
Pergola, 32,000, or 2.9 percent.

The difference in the studies stems from the fact that Della Pergola
included as survivors Jews who lived in Arab countries - Morocco,
Tunisia, Libya, Syria, Lebanon and Algeria - that passed anti-Jewish
laws. Ukeles did not.

Asked his reaction to the disparities, Ukeles said that since their
purpose is to determine allocations based on need, a new needs
assessment study might be in order.

In such a study in 2000 for the Claims Conference, Ukeles found 119,000
survivors in the former Soviet Union in need - almost double that of
any other area.

Gideon Taylor, executive vice president of the Claims Conference, said
his organization's allocations committee would be meeting Monday to
vote on staff recommendations for the allocation of more than $50
million.

Taylor said the staff considered both the Della Pergola and Ukeles
studies, as well as recent needs studies performed in the United
States, Israel and the former Soviet Union. He said those studies would
soon be posted on his organization's Web site.

Elan Steinberg, executive vice president of the World Jewish Congress,
said despite the different number of survivors in the studies, the
percentage of Jews does not differ markedly except in Israel and the
former Soviet Union.

He said Della Pergola's figures represent a "dramatic shift" in
populations that "call into question the basis on which distributions
have been made."

Taylor stressed that both the Claims Conference and the World Jewish
Restitution Organization "can only act in an empirical manner" and
thus must base their allocations "on the most recent statistics and
on the basis of where the greatest needs are."

The allocations committee of the Claims Conference will be submitting
its recommendations to its full membership in coming weeks. Steinberg
said the WJC, a member of the Claims Conference, would take into
consideration Della Pergola's statistics when voting on the
committee's recommendations.

Israel Singer, president of the Claims Conference, said that instead of
each organization determining on its own how best to allocate
settlement monies to needy survivors, there should be a "global,
coordinated strategy" in determining allocations. He said it should
apply to the insurance and Swiss bank settlements, as well as the
allocations from the Claims Conference.

Samuel Dubbin, an attorney for the Holocaust Survivors Foundation,
welcomed such a move. He said he is convinced that if there was a
global allocation, "there would be enough funds available to meet the
needs of survivors all over the world."

Singer said he would be meeting shortly after Thanksgiving with Korman
to review the latest demographic statistics and to discuss the global
allocation idea.

"I'd love the judge to look at it and if he has to make allocations
earlier, it does not mean we can't reassess our allocations based on
what he does," Singer said.

Singer stressed that all of the settlements combined, along with money
the Claims Conference obtains from various sources, contains hundreds
of millions of dollars that together might meet the needs of survivors
for the next five years.

Any distribution plans that call for allocations beyond that time frame
should be shortened, he said.

"Survivors are dying at the rate of 15 percent a year," Singer
said. "We should telescope the amount of time allocations are
made."

In addition, Singer said the money must go directly to help survivors.
If the survivors have moved, they should still receive the money if
they are in need.

"The money should not be an entitlement for places but for
individuals," he said.

At a meeting this week in Jerusalem, the executive committee of the
Claims Conference decided to press the German government to provide
funds for homecare for Holocaust survivors in need worldwide.

Dubbin pointed out that the Association of Jewish Family and
Children's Services Agencies in 2002 estimated that a minimum of $30
million is needed annually to care for needy survivors in the United
States.
http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=8774



All this quvatch about the ZYDs, but no concern for the many MORE MILLIONS 
of Polish, Ukrainian, Russian, German people killed!!


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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
 wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don't give a damn about girls of other
>confessions. 
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>>  wrote:

>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.

>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish 
>> >wrote:

>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest.......

>> >>From: Rameses 
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700
 
>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:

>> >>"Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel's
>> >>thriving sex industry.
 
>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.

>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery".

>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don't
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.


>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
 
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
 
>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore."
>> --John Bryant


>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576

>> together with
 
>> Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431

>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.

>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>> Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked"?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473

>> Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR - www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>     Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>     Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
 
>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.

>> Reply-To: "George" 



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Unfortunately, too true.
Always, the ZYDS do their best to foment wars, and other miseries, everywhere
in the world, just to increase their power and the Jew World Order.

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:19:19 -0700, FredBurg 
wrote:

>Those who have failed to learn from the past 2000 years of history, will be
>doomed to repeat history.
>
>With now an extra 51 well documented proven cases of ZHID  COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS, besides notorious KASTNER case,  one MUST question the
>HOLOHOAX figures!!
>
>Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a nazi GESTAPO
>COLLABORATOR!!
>
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:11:30 -0700, Ken Levi  wrote:
>
>>For the past 2000 years, the world has suffered because of the cursed
>>Christkiller ZHIDS.
>
>>Not just the Kollaboraci of the ZHIDS with the nazis.
>
>
>>On 27 Sep 2004 16:03:09 -0000, PhilMathews 
>>wrote:
>
>>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>
>>>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG--
>>>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>>>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>>>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>>>have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn."
>>>I've seen photos of naked children, ... and fail to see the
>>>harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
>>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>>     Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>>>                alone with your children?
>
>
>>>From: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (JohannSebastianBott)
>>>Subject: Re:ZHID ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI = ZYDOWSKY KOLABORANCI!!!
>>>Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.wroclaw
>>>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>
>>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>> wrote:
>
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish,
>> > Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate Professor of Sociology
>> > and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of
>> > Germans during occupation of Poland.  The only
>> > reason for this question at this time seems to be
>> > his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provocatively,
>> > Dr. Ilicki asks:
>> > 1) who were the members of the
>> > police, volunteers or draftees?,
>> > 2) what was their social status?
>> > 3) what happened to them after the war?
>> > Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not
>> > know the answers.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested
>> > in Pinsk the hometown of his parents and allegedly
>> > the site of the burial of his grandparents and over
>> > 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitte
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with
>> > Yad Vashem.  However, young (about 40 years old)
>> > Julian pretends disintrest, because he is afraid that
>> > exhumations might start at the alleged burial site
>> > and will find no skeletons as same happened last
>> > year at nearby Mariompole, presently in Lithuania.
>
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police
>> > during German occupation was  dramatically reduced
>> > in numbers and pre-war policemen were forced to
>> > serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,and when armed never
>> > given more than five bullets for their long rifles.
>> > Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write
>> > a report for what target each bullet was used
>> > and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>
>>>>>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.
>
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in
>> > the Third Reich, in which service was completely
>> > voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The
>> > social background of these Jewish collaborators
>> > according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
>> > with post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree,
>> > 20% with elementary education.  These are data
>> > from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the
>> > requirement was that EACH Jewish policeman
>> > has at least matura (two years of college)
>> > see page 489 of his book.  In practice, the
>> > Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German
>> > occupation immediately were fired from
>> > their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because
>> > the schools were closed.
>
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep
>> your life a little longer or die now!
>
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted.
>> Under Stalin they ran to enlist hoping to avoid being
>> killed in the next "relocation"!
>
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground,
>> > unemployed Jewish intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>
>> > Some of it was really gruesome as you remember
>> > from our previous description of the Feb. 1942
>> > execution on Rybna Street market place in Lodz.
>> > German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown
>> > endlessly in Wiesenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands
>> > of Jews standing and watching behind three
>> > uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered
>> > pistols facing Jewish crowd and about to be hanged
>> > women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> > -------------
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>
>> Herman
>
>First,let us kill all the lawyers! - W.Shakespeare
>First, we get rid of all the politicians! - Mao Tse Dung
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!! Me
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also:panPiotrGlownia - panPiotrGlownia@swipnet.se
>SINCE I LIKE TO RECEIVE LOTS OF EMAILS, FEEL FREE TO SUBSCRIBE ME TO
>ALL KINDS OF MAILLISTS, ESPECIALLY FOR SEX, AND HOMOSEXUALS.
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.



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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
 wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don't give a damn about girls of other
>confessions. 
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>>  wrote:

>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.

>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish 
>> >wrote:

>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest.......

>> >>From: Rameses 
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700
 
>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:

>> >>"Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel's
>> >>thriving sex industry.
 
>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.

>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery".

>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don't
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.


>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
 
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
 
>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore."
>> --John Bryant


>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576

>> together with
 
>> Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431

>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.

>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>> Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked"?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473

>> Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR - www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>     Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>     Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
 
>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.

>> Reply-To: "George" 



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Well worth worth reading by those with brains.
It seems that Iamhere is not all there, so he is out.


On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:49:14 GMT, BenJKramer
 wrote:
>From: Ken McVay 
>Subject: DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUEDEN-MAFIA!!
>Newsgroups:
>soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.austria,soc.culture.polish


>NOTE:  Do not print this out if you reside in  Austria;
>Belgium; France; Germany; Israel; Spain or Switzerland.

>WARNING To People in Austria; Belgium; France; Germany;
>Israel; Spain and Switzerland. You can be fined,
>imprisoned or both for discussing the topics set
>forth in this article.

>From: dna-no-spam@cotse.com
>Subject: DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUDEN-MAFIA
>Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:10:10 -0500
>Newsgroups: de.soc.politik.misc
>
>22.1.2001
>
>DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUDEN-MAFIA
>
>Pardon, was wir genau sagen wollten ist DROGEN-, WAFFEN-,
>PORNO-  und ABZOCKMAFIA.
>
>Waehrend heutzutage rechte und braune Furze weltweit auf
>den Titelseiten der Freimaurerpresse Schlagzeilen
>machen, werden andere Meldungen - die tatsaechlich
>veruebten Verbrechen der Globalisten und Juden betreffend,
>bestenfalls als Minimeldung auf der Chronikseite gebracht.
>
>Der freimaurerisch-judea kontrollierten Medien-Mafia ist
>es z.B. gelungen einen blutigen Massenmord und
>Massenvergewaltigung in Wichita (USA) an 5 Weisse
>durch zwei Neger voellig zu unterdruecken.
>Wird jedoch einem Nigger-Drogendealer in Deutschland
>auch nur ein Haar gekruemmt, gibt es sofort in allen Medien
>einen Proteststurm, Kerzerlmaersche  und alle irren
>Gruen-Bolschewisten weltweit beginnen schlagartig mit
>Lichterketten, Sanktionen und sonstigen Unsinn.
>
>Ein weiteres Beispiel fuer die Macht der Juden-Mafia:
>Aus Mexiko wurde heute gemeldet, dass der Ober-Pate
>und einer der maechtigsten mexikanischen Drogenbosse,
>der Jude Joaquin Guzman aus einem luxurioesen
>"Hochsicherheitsgefaengnis" offenbar problemlos
>entfliehen konnte. Wie das?
>
>Der Direktor dieses noblen "Etablishments" und weitere
>30 Waerter (!) wurden als mutmassliche Fluchthelfer
>verhaftet.  Eine reine Alibihandlung, denn welcher
>Richter oder Polizist dem seine Karriere, sein Leben
>oder/und Familie lieb und wert ist, wird der
>"Ueberredungskunst" oder/und Scheck eines Mosche
>Rothschild oder Sharon Feigenbaum einen Widerstand
>entgegensetzen?
>
>Beweis: Die russisch-juedischen Pornohersteller in Moskau,
>die zwar pro Forma verhaftet wurden, aber nach drei Tagen
>schon wieder ihren Geschaeften im Internet nachgehen konnten.
>In russischen Gefaengnissen gibt es offenbar kein koscheres
>Essen und keine Synagoge. Das Verbrechen dieser
>beschnittenen Ratten aus der ostjuedischen Khasarengosse:
>Vor laufender Videokamera wurde Babys zu Tode vergewaltigt
>und diese Videos mit horrenden Profiten verkauft, im
>Internet angeboten und Teilausschnitte davon (dank
>einem juedischen TV-Boss) im italienischen Fernsehen
>gezeigt.  Eindeutig ein Fall fuer unsere Politiker
>auch diese Art von Kulturbereicherung zu foerdern.
>
>Da fast alle globalen Top-Verbrecher und Mafiosi
>(egal ob Drogen, Menschen- oder Waffenschoieber oder
>Pornokoenige) dieser Erde aus dem auserwaehlten Volk
>Gottes stammen, besitzen sie zumeist auch eine israelische
>Staatsbuergerschaft. Oder sie geben mitunter auch
>vor, Jude zu sein.  Wohl wissend, dass Israel nicht
>nur der groesste  antisemitische und rassistische
>Killerstaat der Erde ist, sondern auch das Paradies
>fuer jede Art von Dieben, Betrueger, Schwindler,
>Spekulanten, Kriegsverbrecher,  Holocaust-Luegner
>und auch Massenmoerder ist.
>
>Grund genug fuer den oesterreichischen Bundeskanzler
>Wolfgang Schuessel und Co. dieses dekadente Volk von
>Ganoven und  Banditen und ihre menschenrechtswidrigen
>Verbrechen (3 Millionen Semiten aus ihrer Heimat vertrieben,
>hunderte Tote in wenigen Monaten) mit weiteren
>Milliardenbetraegen zu finanzieren. Die Ausbeute
>des von "Jahwe auserwaehlten Volk" fuer nur 12 Monate
>Erpressung kann sich sehen lassen: 15 Mrd. AS die man
>dem Volk und der Wirtschaft frech aus der Tasche stiehlt.
>
>Sei's wie sei, Oesterreich ist nicht das einizige Opfer
>dieser Parasiten, denn auch andere Laender werden von
>diesen genetisch kaputten Blutegeln zu Kasse gebeten -
>und von der Presse tunlichst verheimlicht.
>
>Mit rund 100 Millionen US$ wird auch Frankreich zur
>Kasse gebeten. Geld bekommen auch jene Nachkommen
>und Kinder die nur GLAUBEN, dass ihrer Eltern ein Konto
>bei einer Bank oder Versicherung hatten. Beweisen
>muessen sie als Juden nichts.
>
>Mit rund 4,4 Milliarden wird Deutschland zur Kasse
>gebeten. Oder hat man das schon wieder vergessen?
>Das inkludiert selbstverstaendlich nicht die laufenden
>Geschenke wie zum Beispiel hochmoderne Atom U-Boote.
>(damit die Israelis weltweit unbemerkt ihre Bio-Chemischen
>voelkervernichtenden Waffen abfeuern koennen)
>
>Und diese Summen inkludieren aber keine Sonderleistungen
>wie  bezahlte Urlaubsreisen in Luxushotels, Schulen, Synagogen,
>und die Pflege der juedischen Friedhoefe bzw.
>"Holocaustdenkmaeler" (in Berlin alleine fast 500 und
>weltweit werden es sicher bei 10.000 sein).
>
>Und diese Liste des Horrors laesst sich fast endlos fortsetzen.
>Nur von den Eskimos am Nordpol, den Buschnegern
>Zentralafrikas oder den Kannibalen Borneos wurden
>noch keine "Wiedergutmachungen" und "Entschuldigungen"
>(spricht Kniefall und Fuesse kuessen) verlangt. Kein Land
>der Welt kann heute mehr sicher sein, nicht in den Zangengriff
>dieser beschnittenen Raubritter zu gelangen.
>
>Man schaetzt, 300-400 Milliarden US$ an Mafia-Schutzgelder
>wurden seit 1948 mit Hilfe der Holocaust-Keule
>und Gaskammerschwindel an die Juden bezahlt. Und dieser
>Betrag ist sicher nicht zu hoch gegriffen. Wieviele Milliarden
>davon allerdings in den Aufbau und Erhalt des organisierten
>Verbrechens geflossen sind, kann nur geschaetzt werden.
>
>
>
>I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>I like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, PAMYAT, HAMAS or Aryan Nations,etc.
>
>CALL late nights best, or even VISIT me:
>Dr Laurence B. Shiff (Nazihunter)
>327 Cortleigh Boulevard
>Toronto, Ontario M5N 1R2 CA
>Tel: 416-785-4574.
>
>alternate
>
>KASPU COM
>2788 Bathurst St.
>Toronto, Ontario m6b3a3 CA
>Tel: 416-789-5691
>(FAX) 416-789-5691
>E-Mail: shiff@kaspu.com
>
>
>My associate in the USA, who is like me, is:
>Donald Ray Ellis
>aka Pat Blakely/RevWhite/Mike Kalvatis/Rob Stewart ET AL
>108 E. Victory Street
>Star City, Arkansas 71667
>Tel: (870) 628-1437
>Email: voiceofreason@blakely.harrogate.net
>
>
>Posted courtesy of : Paul Kneisel, who likes late
>night discussions, even from Christian Identity,
>Pamyat, Aryan Nations, Stormfront, HAMAS, etc.
>I am together with McVay and L.Schiff,
>regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers to his homosexuals escorts office:
>1-250-616-9431
>Or, VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to work:(780)492-0473
>
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the website for JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>National Alliance - www.natvan.com
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay. May he rot in hell.



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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
 wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don't give a damn about girls of other
>confessions. 
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>>  wrote:

>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.

>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish 
>> >wrote:

>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest.......

>> >>From: Rameses 
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700
 
>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:

>> >>"Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel's
>> >>thriving sex industry.
 
>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.

>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery".

>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don't
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.


>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
 
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
 
>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore."
>> --John Bryant


>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576

>> together with
 
>> Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431

>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.

>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>> Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked"?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473

>> Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR - www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>     Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>     Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
 
>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.

>> Reply-To: "George" 



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From: Ken McVay 
Subject: DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUEDEN-MAFIA!!
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Belgium; France; Germany; Israel; Spain or Switzerland.

WARNING To People in Austria; Belgium; France; Germany;
Israel; Spain and Switzerland. You can be fined,
imprisoned or both for discussing the topics set
forth in this article.

From: dna-no-spam@cotse.com
Subject: DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUDEN-MAFIA
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:10:10 -0500
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22.1.2001

DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUDEN-MAFIA

Pardon, was wir genau sagen wollten ist DROGEN-, WAFFEN-,
PORNO-  und ABZOCKMAFIA.

Waehrend heutzutage rechte und braune Furze weltweit auf
den Titelseiten der Freimaurerpresse Schlagzeilen
machen, werden andere Meldungen - die tatsaechlich
veruebten Verbrechen der Globalisten und Juden betreffend,
bestenfalls als Minimeldung auf der Chronikseite gebracht.

Der freimaurerisch-judea kontrollierten Medien-Mafia ist
es z.B. gelungen einen blutigen Massenmord und
Massenvergewaltigung in Wichita (USA) an 5 Weisse
durch zwei Neger voellig zu unterdruecken.
Wird jedoch einem Nigger-Drogendealer in Deutschland
auch nur ein Haar gekruemmt, gibt es sofort in allen Medien
einen Proteststurm, Kerzerlmaersche  und alle irren
Gruen-Bolschewisten weltweit beginnen schlagartig mit
Lichterketten, Sanktionen und sonstigen Unsinn.

Ein weiteres Beispiel fuer die Macht der Juden-Mafia:
Aus Mexiko wurde heute gemeldet, dass der Ober-Pate
und einer der maechtigsten mexikanischen Drogenbosse,
der Jude Joaquin Guzman aus einem luxurioesen
"Hochsicherheitsgefaengnis" offenbar problemlos
entfliehen konnte. Wie das?

Der Direktor dieses noblen "Etablishments" und weitere
30 Waerter (!) wurden als mutmassliche Fluchthelfer
verhaftet.  Eine reine Alibihandlung, denn welcher
Richter oder Polizist dem seine Karriere, sein Leben
oder/und Familie lieb und wert ist, wird der
"Ueberredungskunst" oder/und Scheck eines Mosche
Rothschild oder Sharon Feigenbaum einen Widerstand
entgegensetzen?

Beweis: Die russisch-juedischen Pornohersteller in Moskau,
die zwar pro Forma verhaftet wurden, aber nach drei Tagen
schon wieder ihren Geschaeften im Internet nachgehen konnten.
In russischen Gefaengnissen gibt es offenbar kein koscheres
Essen und keine Synagoge. Das Verbrechen dieser
beschnittenen Ratten aus der ostjuedischen Khasarengosse:
Vor laufender Videokamera wurde Babys zu Tode vergewaltigt
und diese Videos mit horrenden Profiten verkauft, im
Internet angeboten und Teilausschnitte davon (dank
einem juedischen TV-Boss) im italienischen Fernsehen
gezeigt.  Eindeutig ein Fall fuer unsere Politiker
auch diese Art von Kulturbereicherung zu foerdern.

Da fast alle globalen Top-Verbrecher und Mafiosi
(egal ob Drogen, Menschen- oder Waffenschoieber oder
Pornokoenige) dieser Erde aus dem auserwaehlten Volk
Gottes stammen, besitzen sie zumeist auch eine israelische
Staatsbuergerschaft. Oder sie geben mitunter auch
vor, Jude zu sein.  Wohl wissend, dass Israel nicht
nur der groesste  antisemitische und rassistische
Killerstaat der Erde ist, sondern auch das Paradies
fuer jede Art von Dieben, Betrueger, Schwindler,
Spekulanten, Kriegsverbrecher,  Holocaust-Luegner
und auch Massenmoerder ist.

Grund genug fuer den oesterreichischen Bundeskanzler
Wolfgang Schuessel und Co. dieses dekadente Volk von
Ganoven und  Banditen und ihre menschenrechtswidrigen
Verbrechen (3 Millionen Semiten aus ihrer Heimat vertrieben,
hunderte Tote in wenigen Monaten) mit weiteren
Milliardenbetraegen zu finanzieren. Die Ausbeute
des von "Jahwe auserwaehlten Volk" fuer nur 12 Monate
Erpressung kann sich sehen lassen: 15 Mrd. AS die man
dem Volk und der Wirtschaft frech aus der Tasche stiehlt.

Sei's wie sei, Oesterreich ist nicht das einizige Opfer
dieser Parasiten, denn auch andere Laender werden von
diesen genetisch kaputten Blutegeln zu Kasse gebeten -
und von der Presse tunlichst verheimlicht.

Mit rund 100 Millionen US$ wird auch Frankreich zur
Kasse gebeten. Geld bekommen auch jene Nachkommen
und Kinder die nur GLAUBEN, dass ihrer Eltern ein Konto
bei einer Bank oder Versicherung hatten. Beweisen
muessen sie als Juden nichts.

Mit rund 4,4 Milliarden wird Deutschland zur Kasse
gebeten. Oder hat man das schon wieder vergessen?
Das inkludiert selbstverstaendlich nicht die laufenden
Geschenke wie zum Beispiel hochmoderne Atom U-Boote.
(damit die Israelis weltweit unbemerkt ihre Bio-Chemischen
voelkervernichtenden Waffen abfeuern koennen)

Und diese Summen inkludieren aber keine Sonderleistungen
wie  bezahlte Urlaubsreisen in Luxushotels, Schulen, Synagogen,
und die Pflege der juedischen Friedhoefe bzw.
"Holocaustdenkmaeler" (in Berlin alleine fast 500 und
weltweit werden es sicher bei 10.000 sein).

Und diese Liste des Horrors laesst sich fast endlos fortsetzen.
Nur von den Eskimos am Nordpol, den Buschnegern
Zentralafrikas oder den Kannibalen Borneos wurden
noch keine "Wiedergutmachungen" und "Entschuldigungen"
(spricht Kniefall und Fuesse kuessen) verlangt. Kein Land
der Welt kann heute mehr sicher sein, nicht in den Zangengriff
dieser beschnittenen Raubritter zu gelangen.

Man schaetzt, 300-400 Milliarden US$ an Mafia-Schutzgelder
wurden seit 1948 mit Hilfe der Holocaust-Keule
und Gaskammerschwindel an die Juden bezahlt. Und dieser
Betrag ist sicher nicht zu hoch gegriffen. Wieviele Milliarden
davon allerdings in den Aufbau und Erhalt des organisierten
Verbrechens geflossen sind, kann nur geschaetzt werden.



I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
I like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, PAMYAT, HAMAS or Aryan Nations,etc.

CALL late nights best, or even VISIT me:
Dr Laurence B. Shiff (Nazihunter)
327 Cortleigh Boulevard
Toronto, Ontario M5N 1R2 CA
Tel: 416-785-4574.

alternate

KASPU COM
2788 Bathurst St.
Toronto, Ontario m6b3a3 CA
Tel: 416-789-5691
(FAX) 416-789-5691
E-Mail: shiff@kaspu.com


My associate in the USA, who is like me, is:
Donald Ray Ellis
aka Pat Blakely/RevWhite/Mike Kalvatis/Rob Stewart ET AL
108 E. Victory Street
Star City, Arkansas 71667
Tel: (870) 628-1437
Email: voiceofreason@blakely.harrogate.net


Posted courtesy of : Paul Kneisel, who likes late
night discussions, even from Christian Identity,
Pamyat, Aryan Nations, Stormfront, HAMAS, etc.
I am together with McVay and L.Schiff,
regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers to his homosexuals escorts office:
1-250-616-9431
Or, VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?

http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg


Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to work:(780)492-0473


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the website for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Or, other useful websites include:
National Alliance - www.natvan.com
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
is a revolutionary act."
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org


As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay. May he rot in hell.



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Are you insane, or on drugs?

There is no such person as your alleged Grosvomit.

There are many articles by Frank Arthur, which seems to
indicate that perhaps you are schizophrenic?

Take your meds and stop spamming newsgroups with your delusions.



On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 14:30:33 -0500, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Grosvomit the fraud stealing the name Frank Arthur because he is too weak to
>use his own name.
>
>The real Frank Arthur only posts via Bellsouth Internet Group
>and in the gray area where it says Organization: Bellsouth Internet Group
>
>The weak minded Grosvomit posts garbage
>
>
>"Frank Arthur"  wrote in message 
>news:57f1t2psspm8sasrg7n289nnijhaitk675@4ax.com...
>>
>> Even Jews are now so critical of this disgusting pervert, that Sol
>



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Well worth worth reading by those with brains.
It seems that Iamhere is not all there, so he is out.


On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:49:14 GMT, BenJKramer
 wrote:
>From: Ken McVay 
>Subject: DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUEDEN-MAFIA!!
>Newsgroups:
>soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.austria,soc.culture.polish


>NOTE:  Do not print this out if you reside in  Austria;
>Belgium; France; Germany; Israel; Spain or Switzerland.

>WARNING To People in Austria; Belgium; France; Germany;
>Israel; Spain and Switzerland. You can be fined,
>imprisoned or both for discussing the topics set
>forth in this article.

>From: dna-no-spam@cotse.com
>Subject: DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUDEN-MAFIA
>Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:10:10 -0500
>Newsgroups: de.soc.politik.misc
>
>22.1.2001
>
>DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUDEN-MAFIA
>
>Pardon, was wir genau sagen wollten ist DROGEN-, WAFFEN-,
>PORNO-  und ABZOCKMAFIA.
>
>Waehrend heutzutage rechte und braune Furze weltweit auf
>den Titelseiten der Freimaurerpresse Schlagzeilen
>machen, werden andere Meldungen - die tatsaechlich
>veruebten Verbrechen der Globalisten und Juden betreffend,
>bestenfalls als Minimeldung auf der Chronikseite gebracht.
>
>Der freimaurerisch-judea kontrollierten Medien-Mafia ist
>es z.B. gelungen einen blutigen Massenmord und
>Massenvergewaltigung in Wichita (USA) an 5 Weisse
>durch zwei Neger voellig zu unterdruecken.
>Wird jedoch einem Nigger-Drogendealer in Deutschland
>auch nur ein Haar gekruemmt, gibt es sofort in allen Medien
>einen Proteststurm, Kerzerlmaersche  und alle irren
>Gruen-Bolschewisten weltweit beginnen schlagartig mit
>Lichterketten, Sanktionen und sonstigen Unsinn.
>
>Ein weiteres Beispiel fuer die Macht der Juden-Mafia:
>Aus Mexiko wurde heute gemeldet, dass der Ober-Pate
>und einer der maechtigsten mexikanischen Drogenbosse,
>der Jude Joaquin Guzman aus einem luxurioesen
>"Hochsicherheitsgefaengnis" offenbar problemlos
>entfliehen konnte. Wie das?
>
>Der Direktor dieses noblen "Etablishments" und weitere
>30 Waerter (!) wurden als mutmassliche Fluchthelfer
>verhaftet.  Eine reine Alibihandlung, denn welcher
>Richter oder Polizist dem seine Karriere, sein Leben
>oder/und Familie lieb und wert ist, wird der
>"Ueberredungskunst" oder/und Scheck eines Mosche
>Rothschild oder Sharon Feigenbaum einen Widerstand
>entgegensetzen?
>
>Beweis: Die russisch-juedischen Pornohersteller in Moskau,
>die zwar pro Forma verhaftet wurden, aber nach drei Tagen
>schon wieder ihren Geschaeften im Internet nachgehen konnten.
>In russischen Gefaengnissen gibt es offenbar kein koscheres
>Essen und keine Synagoge. Das Verbrechen dieser
>beschnittenen Ratten aus der ostjuedischen Khasarengosse:
>Vor laufender Videokamera wurde Babys zu Tode vergewaltigt
>und diese Videos mit horrenden Profiten verkauft, im
>Internet angeboten und Teilausschnitte davon (dank
>einem juedischen TV-Boss) im italienischen Fernsehen
>gezeigt.  Eindeutig ein Fall fuer unsere Politiker
>auch diese Art von Kulturbereicherung zu foerdern.
>
>Da fast alle globalen Top-Verbrecher und Mafiosi
>(egal ob Drogen, Menschen- oder Waffenschoieber oder
>Pornokoenige) dieser Erde aus dem auserwaehlten Volk
>Gottes stammen, besitzen sie zumeist auch eine israelische
>Staatsbuergerschaft. Oder sie geben mitunter auch
>vor, Jude zu sein.  Wohl wissend, dass Israel nicht
>nur der groesste  antisemitische und rassistische
>Killerstaat der Erde ist, sondern auch das Paradies
>fuer jede Art von Dieben, Betrueger, Schwindler,
>Spekulanten, Kriegsverbrecher,  Holocaust-Luegner
>und auch Massenmoerder ist.
>
>Grund genug fuer den oesterreichischen Bundeskanzler
>Wolfgang Schuessel und Co. dieses dekadente Volk von
>Ganoven und  Banditen und ihre menschenrechtswidrigen
>Verbrechen (3 Millionen Semiten aus ihrer Heimat vertrieben,
>hunderte Tote in wenigen Monaten) mit weiteren
>Milliardenbetraegen zu finanzieren. Die Ausbeute
>des von "Jahwe auserwaehlten Volk" fuer nur 12 Monate
>Erpressung kann sich sehen lassen: 15 Mrd. AS die man
>dem Volk und der Wirtschaft frech aus der Tasche stiehlt.
>
>Sei's wie sei, Oesterreich ist nicht das einizige Opfer
>dieser Parasiten, denn auch andere Laender werden von
>diesen genetisch kaputten Blutegeln zu Kasse gebeten -
>und von der Presse tunlichst verheimlicht.
>
>Mit rund 100 Millionen US$ wird auch Frankreich zur
>Kasse gebeten. Geld bekommen auch jene Nachkommen
>und Kinder die nur GLAUBEN, dass ihrer Eltern ein Konto
>bei einer Bank oder Versicherung hatten. Beweisen
>muessen sie als Juden nichts.
>
>Mit rund 4,4 Milliarden wird Deutschland zur Kasse
>gebeten. Oder hat man das schon wieder vergessen?
>Das inkludiert selbstverstaendlich nicht die laufenden
>Geschenke wie zum Beispiel hochmoderne Atom U-Boote.
>(damit die Israelis weltweit unbemerkt ihre Bio-Chemischen
>voelkervernichtenden Waffen abfeuern koennen)
>
>Und diese Summen inkludieren aber keine Sonderleistungen
>wie  bezahlte Urlaubsreisen in Luxushotels, Schulen, Synagogen,
>und die Pflege der juedischen Friedhoefe bzw.
>"Holocaustdenkmaeler" (in Berlin alleine fast 500 und
>weltweit werden es sicher bei 10.000 sein).
>
>Und diese Liste des Horrors laesst sich fast endlos fortsetzen.
>Nur von den Eskimos am Nordpol, den Buschnegern
>Zentralafrikas oder den Kannibalen Borneos wurden
>noch keine "Wiedergutmachungen" und "Entschuldigungen"
>(spricht Kniefall und Fuesse kuessen) verlangt. Kein Land
>der Welt kann heute mehr sicher sein, nicht in den Zangengriff
>dieser beschnittenen Raubritter zu gelangen.
>
>Man schaetzt, 300-400 Milliarden US$ an Mafia-Schutzgelder
>wurden seit 1948 mit Hilfe der Holocaust-Keule
>und Gaskammerschwindel an die Juden bezahlt. Und dieser
>Betrag ist sicher nicht zu hoch gegriffen. Wieviele Milliarden
>davon allerdings in den Aufbau und Erhalt des organisierten
>Verbrechens geflossen sind, kann nur geschaetzt werden.
>
>
>
>I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>I like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, PAMYAT, HAMAS or Aryan Nations,etc.
>
>CALL late nights best, or even VISIT me:
>Dr Laurence B. Shiff (Nazihunter)
>327 Cortleigh Boulevard
>Toronto, Ontario M5N 1R2 CA
>Tel: 416-785-4574.
>
>alternate
>
>KASPU COM
>2788 Bathurst St.
>Toronto, Ontario m6b3a3 CA
>Tel: 416-789-5691
>(FAX) 416-789-5691
>E-Mail: shiff@kaspu.com
>
>
>My associate in the USA, who is like me, is:
>Donald Ray Ellis
>aka Pat Blakely/RevWhite/Mike Kalvatis/Rob Stewart ET AL
>108 E. Victory Street
>Star City, Arkansas 71667
>Tel: (870) 628-1437
>Email: voiceofreason@blakely.harrogate.net
>
>
>Posted courtesy of : Paul Kneisel, who likes late
>night discussions, even from Christian Identity,
>Pamyat, Aryan Nations, Stormfront, HAMAS, etc.
>I am together with McVay and L.Schiff,
>regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers to his homosexuals escorts office:
>1-250-616-9431
>Or, VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to work:(780)492-0473
>
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the website for JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>National Alliance - www.natvan.com
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay. May he rot in hell.



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On 12 Feb 2007 17:24:18 -0800, in soc.culture.palestine "Zionism is a cancer
growing on Uncle Sam's ass. -"  wrote:

Israeli historian: "blood libel" not completely unfounded
By Khalid Amayreh
Feb 12, 2007, 19:15

Reports

A prominent Israeli Jewish historian has revealed that the medieval
canard about Jews killing Christian children and using their blood in
making pasta for the Jewish holiday of Passover is not entirely
unfounded.

Ariel Toaff, Professor of History at the Bar-Illan University argued
in a new book, published recently in Italy, that "there is a factual
basis for some of the medieval blood libels against the Jews."

"I tried to show that the Jewish world at that time was also violent,
among other things because it had been hurt by Christian violence. I
don't claim that Judaism condones murder. But within Ashkenazi
Judaism, there were extremist groups that could have committed such an
act and justified it."

In an interview with the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz Monday, 12
February, Toaff said he reached this conclusion after examining the
records of the trial for the murder, ostensibly by Jews, of a
Christian child, Simon of Trento in 1475.

The 3-year-old child went missing around Easter in Trento, Italy, in
March 1475 and his father accused the Jews of the town of kidnapping
and murdering him, and then draining his blood for use in baking their
Passover matzohs and also for occult rituals secretly adhered to by
them.

The leaders of the Jewish community in Trento were arrested and
seventeen of them confessed to the murder, probably under torture.
Fifteen of them, including Samule, the head of the community, were
sentenced to death and burned at the stake.

"I found there were statements and parts of the testimony that were
not part of the Christian culture of the judges, and they could not
have been invented or added by them. They were components appearing in
prayers known from the Jewish prayer book," Toaff was quoted as
saying.

He argued that the established view that Ashkenazi Jews didn't use
human blood on Passover was not entirely true.

"Over many dozens of pages I proved the centrality of blood on
Passover.

"Based on many sermons, I concluded that blood was used, especially by
Ashkenazi Jews, and that there was a belief in the special curative
powers of children's blood. It turns out that among the remedies of
Ashkenazi Jews were powders made of blood."

Toaff said that although the use of blood was prohibited by Jewish
religious law, he found proof of rabbinic permission to use blood,
even human blood.

Toaff has been the target of vitriolic attacks and vilifications by
Jewish leaders and commentators for "vindicating anti-Semitism" and
giving anti-Semites a "cause celebre."

Bar-Illan University President Moshe Kaveh said he would summon Toaff
to explain his research once he returned from Italy.

Israeli and Jewish commentators, as well as talks-backers on several
Israeli websites, have been heaping calumny on Toaff, calling him,
inter alia, "self-hating Jew" and "collaborator with anti-Semites."

However, Toaff said he wouldn't be silenced no matter how vociferous
are the criticisms of his book.

"I will not give up my devotion to the truth and academic freedom even
if the world crucifies me."

http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/printer_21417.shtml



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On 10 Feb 2007 12:14:16 -0800, in alt.revisionism "thedarkman"
 wrote:

I wouldn't pay much attention to the nutter who appeared on Oprah; I
remember that, it caused eruptions at the time. So what do we have
here then? A Jewish academic who admits that hey, maybe Jews had their
bad guys too, maybe they had their share of bloodthirsty, superstious
bigots. Like I said before, this really is no big deal for me, but
watch the shabbez goyim like Mock scream, watch the ADL shriek. Don't
these people make you wanna laugh?


http://www.honestmediatoday.com/professor_admits_jewish_ritual_murder.htm


  Jewish Professor Admits Jewish Cult Engaged in Past Jewish Ritual
Murders

According to a recent report by the newspaper "The Guardian," Jewish
Prof. Ariel Toaff, who is a professor at Bar-Ilan University in Israel
of Medieval Jewish history but is currently a visiting professor in
Italy, has written a book,"Pasque di Sangue" (Easter of Blood), which
describes Jewish ritual murder rites of Jews in the past.

Some details of the book were published in the paper "Corriere Della
Sera," which also has an online section describing the book.

Prof. Toaff's book reportedly "describes the mutilation and
crucifixion of a two-year-old boy to recreate Christ's execution at
Pesach, the Jewish Easter. The festival marks the fleeing of the Jews
>from Egypt and Prof Toaff says Christian blood was used for 'magic and
therapeutic practices,'" noted the Guardian. Further describing the
bizarre and hateful customs of Jewish extremists, Prof. Toaff noted
that Jewish occultists would sometimes mix blood in their matzo balls,
which was eaten during their religious rites.

He also describes many children who were reportedly crucified on the
cross.

Unsurprisingly, many Jewish supremacists quickly denied Prof. Toaff's
accurate findings in an attempt to hide their ancient, bizarre, and
frightening customs from the general public.

However, Prof. Toaff was hardly the first to acknowledge such crimes
in recent times. Indeed, in more recent times, a Jewish lady had
appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show several years ago and described how
some of her relatives had engaged in similar crimes. The honest and
brave Jewish lady, Vicki Polin (who used the pseudonym of "Rachel" on
the Oprah Winfrey show to avoid reprisals), told of how her family had
engaged in some extremely bizarre Satanic Jewish kabbalistic rites,
including that of infanticide (video of Oprah's interview with Polin).

In the interview, Oprah asked the young woman, who undoubtedly had
been traumatized by the ordeal, about what exactly had occurred. Oprah
opened the discussion, telling of how the poor girl had grown up in a
family that "participated in human sacrifice," undoubtedly causing
emotional scars that may never heal.

Here is part of the interview:

OPRAH: ...You come from generations of ritualistic abuse?

POLIN: Yes, my family has an extensive family tree, and they keep
track of who's been involved and who hasn't been involved, and it's
gone back to like 1700.

OPRAH: And so you were ritually abused.

POLIN: Right. I was born into a family that believes in this.

OPRAH: Does everyone else think it's a nice Jewish family? From the
outside, you appear to be a nice Jewish girl?

POLIN: Definitely.

OPRAH: And you all are worshipping the devil inside the home?

POLIN: Right. There's other Jewish families across the country. It's
not just my own family.

OPRAH: Really? And so who knows about it? Lots of people now.

POLIN: Well, I talked to a police detective in the Chicago area, and
several of my friends know, and I've spoke publicly before, and...

OPRAH: So when you were brought up in this kind of evilness, did you
just think it was normal?

RACHEL: I blocked out a lot of the memories I had because of my
multiple personality disorder, but, yes. I mean, it's like if you grow
up with something, you think it's normal. I always thought
something...

OPRAH: So what kinds of things? You don't have to give us the gory
details, but what kinds of things went on in the family?

POLIN: Well, there would be rituals in which babies would be
sacrificed, and you would have to, you know...

[end of Oprah excerpt]

You can read more about Polin's ordeal at the website Lukeford.net,
which also describes many exchanges from Jews about this whole ordeal.
No doubt, it has caused a big scandal among them, with one of their
own reportedly acknowledging such grisly crimes.


Polin is now the CEO of the Awareness Center, which honorably works to
prevent ritual abuse and other acts of child cruelty.

In more recent times, the book "Blood Ritual" by Philip DeVier and the
DVD "Jewish Ritual Murder Revisited: The Hidden Cult Revealed," the
latter having an interview with noted scholar Dr. Harrell Rhome and
also being found online in streamable format, have also covered this
wicked crime committed by Jewish extremists (video).

There is no reason to believe that all Jews commit ritualistic
infanticide. However, there appears to be too much evidence to neglect
such crimes altogether in the past. If committed today, it is mostly
occurring in Israel, where Jewish occults and extremists remain
rampant, and possibly occurring elsewhere in small numbers, often
attributed as Satanic acts.



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On 10 Feb 2007 12:14:16 -0800, in alt.revisionism "thedarkman"
 wrote:

I wouldn't pay much attention to the nutter who appeared on Oprah; I
remember that, it caused eruptions at the time. So what do we have
here then? A Jewish academic who admits that hey, maybe Jews had their
bad guys too, maybe they had their share of bloodthirsty, superstious
bigots. Like I said before, this really is no big deal for me, but
watch the shabbez goyim like Mock scream, watch the ADL shriek. Don't
these people make you wanna laugh?


http://www.honestmediatoday.com/professor_admits_jewish_ritual_murder.htm


  Jewish Professor Admits Jewish Cult Engaged in Past Jewish Ritual
Murders

According to a recent report by the newspaper "The Guardian," Jewish
Prof. Ariel Toaff, who is a professor at Bar-Ilan University in Israel
of Medieval Jewish history but is currently a visiting professor in
Italy, has written a book,"Pasque di Sangue" (Easter of Blood), which
describes Jewish ritual murder rites of Jews in the past.

Some details of the book were published in the paper "Corriere Della
Sera," which also has an online section describing the book.

Prof. Toaff's book reportedly "describes the mutilation and
crucifixion of a two-year-old boy to recreate Christ's execution at
Pesach, the Jewish Easter. The festival marks the fleeing of the Jews
>from Egypt and Prof Toaff says Christian blood was used for 'magic and
therapeutic practices,'" noted the Guardian. Further describing the
bizarre and hateful customs of Jewish extremists, Prof. Toaff noted
that Jewish occultists would sometimes mix blood in their matzo balls,
which was eaten during their religious rites.

He also describes many children who were reportedly crucified on the
cross.

Unsurprisingly, many Jewish supremacists quickly denied Prof. Toaff's
accurate findings in an attempt to hide their ancient, bizarre, and
frightening customs from the general public.

However, Prof. Toaff was hardly the first to acknowledge such crimes
in recent times. Indeed, in more recent times, a Jewish lady had
appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show several years ago and described how
some of her relatives had engaged in similar crimes. The honest and
brave Jewish lady, Vicki Polin (who used the pseudonym of "Rachel" on
the Oprah Winfrey show to avoid reprisals), told of how her family had
engaged in some extremely bizarre Satanic Jewish kabbalistic rites,
including that of infanticide (video of Oprah's interview with Polin).

In the interview, Oprah asked the young woman, who undoubtedly had
been traumatized by the ordeal, about what exactly had occurred. Oprah
opened the discussion, telling of how the poor girl had grown up in a
family that "participated in human sacrifice," undoubtedly causing
emotional scars that may never heal.

Here is part of the interview:

OPRAH: ...You come from generations of ritualistic abuse?

POLIN: Yes, my family has an extensive family tree, and they keep
track of who's been involved and who hasn't been involved, and it's
gone back to like 1700.

OPRAH: And so you were ritually abused.

POLIN: Right. I was born into a family that believes in this.

OPRAH: Does everyone else think it's a nice Jewish family? From the
outside, you appear to be a nice Jewish girl?

POLIN: Definitely.

OPRAH: And you all are worshipping the devil inside the home?

POLIN: Right. There's other Jewish families across the country. It's
not just my own family.

OPRAH: Really? And so who knows about it? Lots of people now.

POLIN: Well, I talked to a police detective in the Chicago area, and
several of my friends know, and I've spoke publicly before, and...

OPRAH: So when you were brought up in this kind of evilness, did you
just think it was normal?

RACHEL: I blocked out a lot of the memories I had because of my
multiple personality disorder, but, yes. I mean, it's like if you grow
up with something, you think it's normal. I always thought
something...

OPRAH: So what kinds of things? You don't have to give us the gory
details, but what kinds of things went on in the family?

POLIN: Well, there would be rituals in which babies would be
sacrificed, and you would have to, you know...

[end of Oprah excerpt]

You can read more about Polin's ordeal at the website Lukeford.net,
which also describes many exchanges from Jews about this whole ordeal.
No doubt, it has caused a big scandal among them, with one of their
own reportedly acknowledging such grisly crimes.


Polin is now the CEO of the Awareness Center, which honorably works to
prevent ritual abuse and other acts of child cruelty.

In more recent times, the book "Blood Ritual" by Philip DeVier and the
DVD "Jewish Ritual Murder Revisited: The Hidden Cult Revealed," the
latter having an interview with noted scholar Dr. Harrell Rhome and
also being found online in streamable format, have also covered this
wicked crime committed by Jewish extremists (video).

There is no reason to believe that all Jews commit ritualistic
infanticide. However, there appears to be too much evidence to neglect
such crimes altogether in the past. If committed today, it is mostly
occurring in Israel, where Jewish occults and extremists remain
rampant, and possibly occurring elsewhere in small numbers, often
attributed as Satanic acts.



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Notice that this is an honest ZYD professor from Israel, who, after much
research, is making public his findings, not some anti-semite.


On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:51:00 -0700, Frank Arthur  wrote:
>From: "Zionism is a cancer growing on Uncle Sam's ass. -"
>
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.palestine
>Subject: Israeli historian: "blood libel" not completely unfounded
>Date: 12 Feb 2007 17:24:18 -0800

>Israeli historian: "blood libel" not completely unfounded
>By Khalid Amayreh
>Feb 12, 2007, 19:15

>A prominent Israeli Jewish historian has revealed that the medieval
>canard about Jews killing Christian children and using their blood in
>making pasta for the Jewish holiday of Passover is not entirely
>unfounded.

>Ariel Toaff, Professor of History at the Bar-Illan University argued
>in a new book, published recently in Italy, that "there is a factual
>basis for some of the medieval blood libels against the Jews."

>"I tried to show that the Jewish world at that time was also violent,
>among other things because it had been hurt by Christian violence. I
>don't claim that Judaism condones murder. But within Ashkenazi
>Judaism, there were extremist groups that could have committed such an
>act and justified it."

>In an interview with the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz Monday, 12
>February, Toaff said he reached this conclusion after examining the
>records of the trial for the murder, ostensibly by Jews, of a
>Christian child, Simon of Trento in 1475.

>The 3-year-old child went missing around Easter in Trento, Italy, in
>March 1475 and his father accused the Jews of the town of kidnapping
>and murdering him, and then draining his blood for use in baking their
>Passover matzohs and also for occult rituals secretly adhered to by
>them.

>The leaders of the Jewish community in Trento were arrested and
>seventeen of them confessed to the murder, probably under torture.
>Fifteen of them, including Samule, the head of the community, were
>sentenced to death and burned at the stake.

>"I found there were statements and parts of the testimony that were
>not part of the Christian culture of the judges, and they could not
>have been invented or added by them. They were components appearing in
>prayers known from the Jewish prayer book," Toaff was quoted as
>saying.

>He argued that the established view that Ashkenazi Jews didn't use
>human blood on Passover was not entirely true.

>"Over many dozens of pages I proved the centrality of blood on
>Passover.

>"Based on many sermons, I concluded that blood was used, especially by
>Ashkenazi Jews, and that there was a belief in the special curative
>powers of children's blood. It turns out that among the remedies of
>Ashkenazi Jews were powders made of blood."

>Toaff said that although the use of blood was prohibited by Jewish
>religious law, he found proof of rabbinic permission to use blood,
>even human blood.

>Toaff has been the target of vitriolic attacks and vilifications by
>Jewish leaders and commentators for "vindicating anti-Semitism" and
>giving anti-Semites a "cause celebre."

>Bar-Illan University President Moshe Kaveh said he would summon Toaff
>to explain his research once he returned from Italy.

>Israeli and Jewish commentators, as well as talks-backers on several
>Israeli websites, have been heaping calumny on Toaff, calling him,
>inter alia, "self-hating Jew" and "collaborator with anti-Semites."

>However, Toaff said he wouldn't be silenced no matter how vociferous
>are the criticisms of his book.

>"I will not give up my devotion to the truth and academic freedom even
>if the world crucifies me."

>http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/printer_21417.shtml



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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
 wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don't give a damn about girls of other
>confessions. 
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>>  wrote:

>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.

>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish 
>> >wrote:

>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest.......

>> >>From: Rameses 
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700
 
>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:

>> >>"Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel's
>> >>thriving sex industry.
 
>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.

>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery".

>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don't
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.


>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
 
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
 
>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore."
>> --John Bryant


>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576

>> together with
 
>> Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431

>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.

>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>> Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked"?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473

>> Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR - www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>     Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>     Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
 
>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.

>> Reply-To: "George" 



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On 11 May 2006 16:07:44 -0000, Ken Lewis  wrote:

>Doesn't the Constitution protect the freedom of the press, as well as freedom
>of expression?

>On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:29:50 GMT, "Constitutional Rights" 
>wrote:

>>It is illegal to post anyone's personal information on a newsgroup.

>Under what statute?

>JEFFREY G. BROWN
>8357 SUMMITRIDGE
>CINCINNATI OH 45255
>alphageek@GEEKMAN.COM
>Tel: 513-474-1953
>Fax: 513-474-9678

>Name  BROWN,JEFFREY G
>Driver License Number RJ339222
>Address 8357 SUMMITRIDGE
>City/State/Zip CINCINNATI OH 45255
>Sex Homo
>Dob Mar 13 1955
>Height 604
>Weight 245
>Eyes BLU
>Hair BRO

>SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER 282-58-6925

>BANK ACCOUNTS AND ACCOUNT NUMBERS
>PNG BANK NATIONAL 4006-470-124    $1863.99
>                  4001-914-361       31.63
>                  4000-80-236      1363.58
>PUTNAM INVESTMENTS                26320.33

>EMPLOYER
>SIEMENS INTERNATIONAL
>4620 FOREST AVENUE
>CINCINNATI, OHIO 45237


>It seems that the Christkiller ZHIDS do not like having done to them, what
>they have consistently done to their critics, to the point where their critics
>mysteriously get fire-bombed!!


>On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 01:00:11 +0000, Leo Fellmann  wrote:
>>> On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:29:50 GMT, "Constitutional Rights" 
>>> wrote:

>>>>It is illegal to post anyone's personal information on a newsgroup.

>>> Under what statute?

>>The world is not the USA. In many, many countries posting personal
>>information  such as he did without consent would be illegal under data
>>protection laws.



>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)

>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)

>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant




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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 10:37:16 -0700, Frank Arthur  wrote:

NOTE:  Do not print this out if you reside in  Austria;
Belgium; France; Germany; Israel; Spain or Switzerland.

WARNING To People in Austria; Belgium; France; Germany;
Israel; Spain and Switzerland. You can be fined,
imprisoned or both for discussing the topics set
forth in this article.

From: hoaxbuster 
Newsgroups: de.soc.politik.misc
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 04:28:15 -0700

Die Holocaust Geschichte ist ein Schwindel weil niemand
vergasst wurde. Von den angeblichen ermordeten 6 millionen
Juden, mehr als zwei millionen wurden angeblich mit
Dieselauspuff umgebracht-  -dass ist technisch absurd.

Zur gleichen Zeit hatte man ungefaehr 500,000 Holzgas-lastwagen
auf den Strassen. Holzgas is Giftgas mit mehr as 20%
Kohlenmonoxid--bis auf 35%--und ist sehr toedlich. Es waere
ideal gewesen fuer Massenmord. Aber dieser Mittel wurde
angeblich nie benutzt fuer Mord--nur viele Todesfaelle durch
Unglueck. Diesel Auspuff enthaelt weniger als 0.4% und dass
nur mit hoher Belasting am Diesel--im Leerlauf enthaelt Diesel
Auspuff weniger als 0.1% CO und 18% Sauerstoff.

Um eine schwere Belastung zu erreichen muss mann etwas
ankuppeln zum Diesel--ein grosses Geblaese, oder eine schwere
Pumpe, oder ein Generator, oder etwas.  Nur in "Neutral" oder
Leerlauf oder schneller Leerlauf, oder mit nur eine kleine
Belastung waere eine Vegasung in eine halbe Stunde mit
Dieselauspuff voellig unmoeglich.

Kurz gesagt: Obwohl Dieselauspuff ideal zum foltern waere,
es ist Absurd fuer Massenmord--und so ist die Holocaust
Geschichte auch!!

Noch zum Thema in grossen: es gibt heute zwischen eine
halben Million und eine Million juedische Holocaustueberlebende
und das fuenfzig Jahre nach dem Krieg.  Die wollen alle natuerlich
viel Geld und ihre Haend kann mann heute gut zaehlen:  300,000
in Israel, 500,000 in Amerika usw.  Wem hat Hitler angeblich
umgebracht wenn es so viele Ueberlebende gibt?

FPBerg


Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
is a revolutionary act."
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Ken McVay invites callers to his homosexuals escorts office:
1-250-616-9431
Or, VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to work:(780)492-0473


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the website for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Or, other useful websites include:
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay rot in hell.

In the USA there is Freedom of Speech, guaranteed by the Constitution.
Unlike some countries in Europe, under the ZHID control!!





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