The Nizkor Project: Remembering the Holocaust (Shoah)

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Subject: Was There Really A Holocaust?
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A very valid question regarding the HOLOHOAX, particularly now 
that the KOLLABORATION of such prominent ZYDS like KASTNER, 
RUTKOWSKI, et al is well documented.

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:58:17 +0000, in can.politics Jill Tyrell
 wrote:

The short answer, of course, is NO.

The "Holocaust" has given Israel a tremendous psychological advantage
over the Gentile world, particularly America and Germany. By
exploiting the guilt complex instilled in non-Jews, they have
obtained:

Over $65 billion in aid from Germany.
Over $55 billion in aid from America.
Israel, a prosperous country, receives $3.2 billion, (or $8 million a day) 
in foreign aid - more than any other country.
The 45,000 Jewish immigrants from Russia have the highest annual quota
after Mexico. 
They enter as "refugees" without having to prove persecution! 
As "refugees" they are automatically entitled to full
welfare benefits not subject to welfare reform cuts.
Nonstop holocaust brainwashing in schools, TV, movies and 
books has placed Israel and organized Jewry above criticism!
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Official Holocaust Figures Reduced

Immediately after World War II, Allied authorities declared that "Jews
had been gassed" in all German concentration camps. It later
discovered that the many bodies photographed in the camps died during
the waning days of the war - from typhus, cold and starvation. Simon
Wiesenthal, of the "Holocaust Center" in Los Angeles, stated in Books
and Bookmen, April 1975, page 5, "No gassing took place in any camp on
German soil." The Jew L.P. Beria headed the Soviet NKVD secret police
>from 1938 to 1953. In 1945, he announced that they had discovered a
"holocaust" of six million Jews. This conveniently occurred only in
camps in Poland! Beria would not allow any outside investigators to
examine these sites. The Jewish-owned New York Times reported in 1945
that Soviet Russia supplied the figure of four million Jews having
been put to death, "in the gas chambers of Auschwitz." However, in
July of 1990, the Polish government reduced this figure to 1.1 million
and it was accepted by Jewish groups. Despite this evidence, the
"official figure" of six million dead was not lowered to three
million!

(It should also be noted that Elizabeth Dole, president of the
American Red Cross, and wife of former Sen. Bob Dole, revealed that
the official death records from Auschwitz had been uncovered in the
Soviet Archives. It listed 70,000 deaths from all causes.)

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No Holocaust Order Ever Given

The Germans are noted for being meticulous record keepers. There was
no attempt made to destroy wartime records, 1,100 tons of which were
seized in the U.S. Zone of occupation alone. British Historian, Colin
Cross, writes in his biography of Hitler, on page 313: "There does not
exist then, anything like a written order signed by Hitler for the
extermination of the Jews in Europe."

Madagascar is a vast island off the coast of Africa in the Indian
Ocean, then owned by France. Thousands of pages of German documents
have been located providing a thorough study of the feasibility of
establishing a Jewish homeland on the island of Madagascar. Plans were
made for the reimbursement of the 25,000 French citizens who lived
there. Even the government of France studied the plan. Theodore Herzl,
the founder of Zionism, considered Madagascar a possible site for a
Jewish state. He also considered Kenya, Africa, the Sinai from the
Suez Canal to the Gaza Strip, and a huge area in southern Poland, but
they really wanted Palestine.

The German Foreign Ministry on January 25, 1939 issued a document on
the solution to the Jewish problem which stated: "The end policy in
regard to the Jews is the emigration of all Jews living in the
territory of the Old Reich."

In Auschwitz Notebooks, we read that all of the top German leadership
supported this plan. "On November 12, 1938, Goring had mentioned the
question of Madagascar. Himmler himself had dreamed of that since
1934, a witness assures us. After the armistice of June 1940
(surrender of France), the idea was propounded by the Foreign Ministry
and approved by Himmler as well as by Hitler himself."

For these reasons SS official Reinhard Heydrich organized the Central
Office for Jewish Emigration on February 11, 1939. Once the war began,
this was no longer possible. Thus Hitler ordered the internment of
Jews as enemy aliens and deported them to the east. On January 27,
1942, Hitler said: "The Jews must leave Europe. The best thing is that
they go to Russia."

Roosevelt did the same thing as Hitler by ordering 120,000 Americans
of Japanese descent living on the West Coast interned in concentration
camps. In March 1942 Roosevelt accused them of being "security risks."
The Japanese men, women and children were imprisoned behind barbed
wire fences and armed guard towers in the blazing hot desert.

The Nuremberg War Crimes Trial heard testimony from Hans Lammers as to
what he considered the "Final Solution of The Jewish Problem." Lammers
was Chief of the Reich Chancellery and personally close to Himmler and
Hitler. Lammers said he asked Himmler what was the "final solution."
Himmler replied: "The Jews must be evacuated from Germany!" He said
that Hitler told him the same thing. In other words, "The Final
Solution" was --emigration! When asked, "when did you first learn that
five million Jews had been exterminated," Lammers replied that it was
"here" at the Nuremberg trials! Herman Goring also told the court that
the first time he had heard anything about a holocaust was, "right
here at Nuremberg!"

Auschwitz was a massive military-industrial complex of 39 camps of
which 19 mainly employed Jews. The factories at the "Monowitz No. 16
Camp" alone employed 126,000 workers. Holocaust expert, Leon Poliakov
of Paris, in Breviary of Hate, page 134, in 1979 wrote that the Jewish
Warsaw Ghetto was one of the Germans' "most important supply centers.
The second in economic importance was the Lodz ghetto because it
manufactured all kinds of goods, and, in particular, its textile
industries constituted support of great value to the German economy."

Heinrich Himmler feared a typhus epidemic in the camps. Eastern
European Jews were very unhygienic and were often blamed for the
spread of typhus. On December 28, 1942, Himmler ordered that, "the
death rate in the camps must be reduced at all costs." (Source,
Reitlinger's book, The Final Solution.) On January 20, 1943, chief
inspector of the camps, Richard Glucks, answered Himmler, "Every means
will be used to lower the death rates." (Source, Nuremberg Trial
Document No. 1523.) The death rate had indeed been reduced from 8.5%
in July 1942 to 2.8% in June 1943.

On April 17, 1943, Hitler asked Admiral Horthy, regent of Hungary for,
"100, 000 Jews to work on a new pursuit plane program." (Source,
Reitlinger's book, Die Endlosung, 1956, page 478.) In May 1944 Hitler
personally ordered that 200,000 more Jews be put to work in
construction and "other important military works."

The Jews were vital to the German war industry. It would have been
counter productive to exterminate them. In fact, the SS arrested Karl
Koch, commandant of Buchenwald, for mistreating and unjustly executing
some prisoners. After being found guilty by a military court, Koch was
sentenced to death and shot. If there was actually a "holocaust" he
would have been honored instead of executed.

Shindler's List features Commandant Amon Goeth, who in reality did
abuse prisoners. However, the film fails to inform viewers that he had
been arrested by the SS and was in prison awaiting trial at war's end.
Most of the gruesome pictures of bodies we see in "made for TV"
holocaust dramas are those who died of starvation and disease during
the final chaotic months of the war. An example is Dachau. Some 54
died in January 1944 and 101 in February 1944. When food and medical
supplies could not be delivered due to Allied bombings, 2,888 died in
January and 3,977 in February 1945.

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The Impossibility of Mass Gassings
Auschwitz had no mass graves. The cremation of four million bodies
would have left 15,000 tons of ash which was never found. Many tons of
coal would have been necessary for such mass cremations. Initially,
the Soviets told conflicting stories about how the six million
perished in the camps under their control. At first they claimed that
the inmates had been "steamed" to death. On December 5, 1945, a
Communist judge issued the following "Accusation No. 6" against
defendant Hans Frank at Nuremberg:

"A large boiler for the production of superheated steam was injected
into the interior of the rooms. The doors are closed hermetically and
the long asphyxiation of the victims by the steam begins. At the
start, screams came from inside, they die down slowly; after 15
minutes, the executions are completed."

This story was not believable. It was then changed to allege that
trucks were backed up to the "death chambers" and carbon monoxide gas
was pumped into the rooms. This claim too was "forgotten" and the
Soviets then charged that the Germans changed the "steam chambers"
into "gas chambers."

The Soviets came up with a novel idea of how the Jews were
exterminated at the Belzec camp. "The Jews were ordered to undress as
though to take a bath. They were led in fact into a building that
could hold hundreds of people. The water was filled up to their necks.
Then a powerful electric current was sent into the metal flooring and
within a few seconds all the Jews, thousands at a time, were dead."

Soviet prosecutor L.N. Smirnov actually read this accusation into the
record at the December 19, 1945, session of the Nuremberg trial. This
story finally evolved to execution by "Zyklon B" gas. This was a
widely used pesticide to kill lice which was the biggest health threat
in the camps. Had the Germans actually wanted to perform mass
exterminations, they had products one-thousand times more deadly such
as Sarin and Tabun nerve gas!

Austrian Engineer Walter Luftl issued a report in March 1992, in which
he found that, "Zyklon B is utterly unsuited for the purposes of
systematic mass murder."

Fred Leuchter, America's foremost expert on executions, took a team of
investigators to Auschwitz in 1988 and reported: "I traveled to Poland
to investigate the alleged execution gas chamber facilities at the
three concentration camps of Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek. My
forensic analysis and subsequent report proves beyond any shadow of a
doubt that there were no gas execution facilities operated by the
Nazis at these sites."

Leuchter also examined the capacity of the so-called "gas chamber
building" at Birkenau. The Nuremberg Tribunal's document No. L-022
stated: "1,765,000 Jews were gassed at Birkenau between April 1942 and
April 1944." However, Leuchter found that even if used at full
capacity "only 105,688" persons could have been "gassed." His team
scraped forensic samples from brick, mortar and concrete to find
traces of cyanide compounds which would be present for centuries. They
were submitted to the Alpha Analytical Laboratories of Ashland,
Massachusetts. In March 1988, the Alpha report found that no cyanide
elements, consistent with what could be expected to be found in a gas
chamber, were present.

A retired German judge, Dr. Wilhelm Staglich said: "The extermination
thesis stands or falls with the allegation that Auschwitz was a 'death
factory.'"

Fred Leuchter's finding: "We have provided the definitive proof that
there were no execution gas chambers utilized for genocidal purposes
by the Germans at these wartime camps. The simple fact is that the
holocaust story is not true."

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How Many Jews Actually Died?
The World Almanac for 1947, in quoting figures supplies by the
American Jewish Committee states that the world Jewish population in
1939 was 15,688,259. The New York Times of February 22, 1948, stated
that the world Jewish population ranged from 15,600,000 to 18,700,000,
excluding some 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine. How could the
Jewish population have increased so rapidly after losing six million
during World War II? Walter Sanning, the author of Dissolution of
European Jewry, says that no less than 2,200,000 Jews had emigrated
out of Europe leaving 2,847,000 Jews residing there at the height of
the German occupation in June 1941. After the war, 3,375,000 Jews,
according to the Red Cross, applied for holocaust reparations. This
figure included many of the emigrants. Thus, the actual number of
those who died at the camps from all causes ranges between 150,000 and
300,000.

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"Holocaust" Silences Opposition
Hardly a week goes by without a new holocaust story in the media.
Bernard Postal wrote in Jewish Week, July 14, 1979:

"Not until the Holocaust, did anti-Semitism become taboo. There was a
time when anti-Semitic speeches were an open factor in national
(political) campaigns. The Holocaust puts a taboo on overt
anti-Semitism among upper-level statesmen and publicists."

Zionist spokesmen have often boasted that, "The shattering effect of
the holocaust on the Christian conscience results in a feeling of
collective indebtedness to the Jews."

The Red Cross issued a massive, three volume, 1,600 page report on the
camps after the war, part of which reads: "In the final moths of the
war, the camps received no food supplies at all and starvation claimed
an increasing number of victims." ... Gen. Kaltenbrunner. . . Allowed
the Red Cross to distribute relief packages and one (Red Cross)
delegate was authorized to stay in each camp (as an observer). Does
this sound like a holocaust?

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What About Real Holocausts?
Why doesn't the film industry or news media produce documentaries
about the numerous true holocausts of Gentiles during this century
such as:

The Soviet Holocaust of Christian Russian Kulak farmers. (1924 - 1930)
- 15 million exterminated!

The Holocaust of the Ukranian farmers, (1930- 1933) - 7 million
starved to death.

The Holocaust of Russian political prisoners, (1919 - 1949) - 12
million perished.

The Pol Pot Communist Holocaust in Cambodia (1975) - 2.5 million
slaughtered.

Armenian Holocaust by the Turks, (1915) - 1.5 million people killed.

Bear in mind that the Jews are the only racial group with an
organization like the World Jewish congress which wields fearsome
power!


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This is a repost of an extremely important article, documenting the deliberate
collaboration of the Zionists/ZYDS, with the nazis.

Never forget the collaboartion of KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI, WIESENTHAL,
plus another 51 ZYDS!!

From: The Truth Seeker 
Subject: 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:53:13 +0000 (UTC)

51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis.

By Lenni Brenner

Lenni Brenner has collated documents that relate to how the Zionist movement
collaborated with German Nazism and Italian Fascism. Given the subsequent
Holocaust against the Jews by the Nazis, many will be surprised and appalled
that a political movement, which supposedly supported Jewish liberation, was
prepared to collaborate with the most anti-semitic of regimes.

Among the documents is the relatively well known and infamous ŒStern Gang
Proposal¹ in which the organisation of future Israeli PM Yitzhak Shamir offers
to join in WWII on Œthe side of the German Reich¹. There is also the
embarrassing documents of the German Zionists who saw the Nazis as fellow
nationalists and were thus sympathetic to ŒGerman national renewal¹, the
memoirs of an SS officer who stays in Palestine as the guest of the Zionist
movement for 6 months.

These acts of collaboration were not limited to the right wing fringe of the
Zionist movement but went to the heart of the Zionist Labour establishment
when the head of the Haganah, Feival Polkes, became a willing paid informer of
the Gestapo. He was even handled by one of the architects of the Final
Solution, Adolf Eichmann, who also travelled to Palestine to liaise with the
Zionists.

These shocking historical documents will make you realise that the history of
the political movement which founded the state of Israel is not quite what it
seems.

They also prove that Zionists will do *anything* to protect their precious
political movement, even if it means sacrificing several million Jews in the
process, then exploiting their suffering to secure the greater goal of a
Zionist State.

The Truth Seeker has spoken.


On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:08:04 -0700, Ken McVayAIDS/SOB  wrote:
>Reply-To: "George" ,
>PRAWDA!
>
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:14:47 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
> wrote:
>
>>The story documented below means that the KASTNER CASE was not an
>>isolated incident!!
>
>Now even Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a Nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
>
>
>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
>>> 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis  
>
>>>September 2004, page 86 
>
>>>Book Review
>
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET:
>>>$15.
>
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
>>>coverage in the American media. Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has
>>>compiled a wide variety of letters, statements, articles, and
>>>judgements—some of which appeared in his earlier book—by a broad array
>>>of activists and authors, that documents Zionist cooperration with the
>>>Nazis. On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case—made in many Zionists’ own words—that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
>>>plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
>>>new Jewish nation. 
>>>
>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response. These latter do indicate levels of
>>>collaboration between Zionists and fascists, both the Nazis in
>>>Germany, and those in Mussolini’s Italy. Brenner’s brief explanatory
>>>notes at the beginning of each document are helpful, as are the
>>>glossary and index.
>>>
>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
>>>eschewed the boycott against Hitler’s Germany, for instance, is that
>>>they had a financial deal—Ha’avara—with Germany allowing Jews to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
>>>the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of “nationality” versus
>>>citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
>>>same concept. 
>>>
>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term “Holocaust
>>>guilt,” frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
>>>the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
>>>Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
>>>threatened European brethren.
>>>
>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
>>>18, 1943:
>>>
>>>And when some asked me: “Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?” I said:
>>>“No!” And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)
>>>
>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
>>>themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
>>>as an important dividing line—and, moreover, were determined to keep
>>>it that way. From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,
>>>“assimilation” of Jews into the societies in which they lived was not
>>>an acceptable option. Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on
>>>a national level, not a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, “It is
>>>impossible for a man to become assimilated with people whose blood is
>>>different from his own” (p. 10); in Einstein’s words, “Palestine is
>>>first and foremost not a refuge for East European Jews, but the
>>>incarnation of a reawakening sense of national solidarity” (p. 29).
>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.
>>>
>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).
>>>
>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference—and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy—were practiced around the world.
>>>
>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
>>>cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
>>>another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.
>>>
>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
>>>information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives—both Palestinian and
>>>Israeli—in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
>>>not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
>>>examining Zionism.
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
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>
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>
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Subject: Some Teachings of the Jew/ZYD  Talmud
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Some Teachings of the Jew/ZYD  Talmud - very anti-Christian!
No wonder people dislike the Christkiller ZYDS!

"Adrian Dharma Wijaya (Adri)"  wrote in message 
news:5g2dv9F3cnmgsU1@mid.individual.net...
Some Teachings of the Jew/ZYD  Talmud

> Where a Jew Should Do Evil

> Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city 
> where he is not known and do the evil there.

> Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis

> Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be
> punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.

> Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God

> Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be
> killed.

> O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews

> Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed 
> him for work.

> Jews Have Superior Legal Status

> Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there
> is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an
> Israelite...the payment is to be in full."

> Jews May Steal from Non-Jews

> Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it
> does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). 
> Sanhedrin

> 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or
> takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."

> Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews

> Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no
> death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

> Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God
> has "exposed their money to Israel."

> Jews May Lie to Non-Jews

> Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a 
> Gentile.

> Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human

> Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

> Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from 
> birth.

> Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

> Insults Against Blessed Mary

> Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the 
> descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in
> footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in
> the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, 
> "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.

> Talmudic Doctrine: Non-Jews are not Human

> The Talmud specifically defines all who are not Jews as non-human animals,
> and specifically dehumanizes Gentiles as not being descendants of Adam. 
> Here are some of the Talmud passages which relate to this topic.

> Kerithoth 6b: Uses of Oil of Anointing. "Our Rabbis have taught: He who
> pours the oil of anointing over cattle or vessels is not guilty; if over
> gentiles (goyim) or the dead, he is not guilty. The law relating to cattle
> and vessels is right, for it is written: "Upon the flesh of man (Adam),
> shall it not be poured (Exodus 30:32]); and cattle and vessels are not man
> (Adam).

> "Also with regard to the dead, [it is plausible] that he is exempt, since
> after death one is called corpse and not a man (Adam). But why is one 
> exempt in the case of gentiles (goyim); are they not in the category of man 
> (Adam)?
> No, it is written: 'And ye my sheep, the sheep of my pasture, are man"
> (Adam); [Ezekiel 34:31]: Ye are called man (Adam) but gentiles (goyim) are
> not called man (Adam)."

> In the preceding passage, the rabbis are discussing the portion of the
> Mosaic law which forbids applying the holy oil to men.

> The Talmud states that it is not a sin to apply the holy oil to

> Gentiles, because Gentiles are not human beings (i.e. are not of Adam).

> Another example from tractate Yebamoth 61a: "It was taught: And so did R.
> Simeon ben Yohai state (61a) that the graves of gentiles (goyim) do not
> impart levitical uncleanness by an ohel [standing or bending over a 
> grave], for it is said, 'And ye my sheep the sheep of my pasture, are men (Adam),
> [Ezekiel 34:31]; you are called men (Adam) but the idolaters are not 
> called men (Adam)."

> The Old Testament Mosaic law states that touching a human corpse or the
> grave of a human imparts uncleanness to those who touch it. But the Talmud
> teaches that if a Jew touches the grave of a Gentile, the Jew is not
> rendered unclean, since Gentiles are not human (not of Adam).

> From Baba Mezia 114b: ""A Jewish priest was standing in a graveyard. When
> asked why he was standing there in apparent violation of the Mosaic law, 
> he replied that it was permissible, since the law only prohibits Jews from
> coming into contact with the graves of humans (Adamites), and he was
> standing in a gentile graveyard. For it has been taught by Rabbi Simon ben
> Yohai: 'The graves of gentiles [goyim] do not defile. For it is written,
> 'And ye my flock, the flock of my pastures, are men (Adam)' (Ezekiel 
> 34:31); only ye are designated men (Adam)."

> Ezekiel 34:31 is the alleged Biblical proof text repeatedly cited in the
> preceding three Talmud passages. But Ezekiel 34:31 does not in fact 
> support the Talmudic notion that only Israelites are human. What these rabbinical,
> anti-Gentile racists and ideologues have done in asserting the preceding
> absurdities about Gentiles is distort an Old Testament passage in order to
> justify their bigotry.

> In Berakoth 58a the Talmud uses Ezekiel 23:20 as proof of the sub-human
> status of gentiles. It also teaches that anyone (even a Jewish man) who
> reveals this Talmudic teaching about non-Jews deserves death, since
> revealing it makes Gentiles wrathful and causes the repression of Judaism.

> The Talmudic citation of this scripture from Ezekiel as a "proof-text" is
> specious, since the passage does not prove that Gentiles are animals. The
> passage from Ezekiel only says that some Egyptians had large genital 
> organs and copious emissions. This does not in any way prove or even connote that
> the Egyptians being referred to in the Bible were considered animals. Once
> again, the Talmud has falsified the Bible by means of distorted
> interpretation.

> Other Talmud passages which expound on Ezekiel 23:20 in this racist 
> fashion are: Arakin 19b, Berakoth 25b, Niddah 45a, Shabbath 150a, Yebamoth 98a.
> Moreover, the original text of Sanhedrin 37a applies God's approval only 
> to the saving of Jewish lives (cf. the Hesronot Ha-shas, Cracow, 1894).

> website address   : http://www.adriandw.com (about christian, jew and 
> islam; history, knowledge, teaching and practice on life)
> e - mail address   : adriandw@centrin.net.id
> Cellphone/Mobile/Hand Phone : +62 816 705 818

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Zionism & The Third Reich=Kollaboraci - Not Just KASTNER Case Part 2/2
Vergiss niemals die verfluechte Juden/Christmorderern!

>Achievements of Haavara

>Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine
>through the Ha'avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about ten
>percent of Germany's 1933 Jewish population. (These German Jews made up
>about 15 percent of Palestine's 1939 Jewish population.) Some Ha'avara
>emigrants transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to
>Palestine. As Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: "Many of these
>people, especially in the late 1930s, were allowed to transfer actual
>replicas of their homes and factories -- indeed rough replicas of their
>very existence."40
 
>The total amount transferred from Germany to Palestine through the Ha'avara
>between August 1933 and the end of 1939 was 8.1 million pounds or 139.57
>million German marks (then equivalent to more than $40 million). This
>amount included 33.9 million German marks ($13.8 million) provided by the
>Reichsbank in connection with the Agreement.41

>Historian Black has estimated that an additional $70 million may have flowed
>into Palestine through corollary German commercial agreements and special
>international banking transactions. The German funds had a major impact on
>a country as underdeveloped as Palestine was in the 1930s, he pointed out.
>Several major industrial enterprises were built with the capital from
>Germany, including the Mekoroth waterworks and the Lodzia textile firm. The
>influx of Ha'avara goods and capital, concluded Black, "produced an
>economic explosion in Jewish Palestine" and was "an indispensable factor in
>the creation of the State of Israel."42
 
>The Ha'avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in
>Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli state. A
>January 1939 German Foreign Office circular bulletin reported, with some
>misgiving, that "the transfer of Jewish property out of Germany [through
>the Ha'avara agreement] contributed to no small extent to the building of a
>Jewish state in Palestine."43
 
>Former officials of the Ha'avara company in Palestine confirmed this view in
>a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972: "The economic
>activity made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara
>transfers to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for
>the country's development. Many new industries and commercial enterprises
>were established in Jewish Palestine, and numerous companies that are
>enormously important even today in the economy of the State of Israel owe
>their existence to the Haavara."44
 
>Dr. Ludwig Pinner, a Ha'avara company official in Tel Aviv during the 1930s,
>later commented that the exceptionally competent Ha'avara
>immigrants "decisively contributed" to the economic, social, cultural and
>educational development of Palestine's Jewish community.45

>The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of cooperation
>between Hitler's Germany and international Zionism. Through this pact,
>Hitler's Third Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to
>support Jewish development in Palestine.
 
>Zionists Offer a Military Alliance With Hitler
 
>In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization submitted a
>formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a military-political
>alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made by the radical
>underground "Fighters for the Freedom of Israel," better known as the Lehi
>or Stern Gang. Its leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the
>radical nationalist "National Military Organization" (Irgun Zvai Leumi)
>over the group's attitude toward Britain, which had effectively banned
>further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern regarded Britain as the main
>enemy of Zionism.

>This remarkable Zionist proposal "for the solution of the Jewish question in
>Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in the war on the
>side of Germany" is worth quoting at some length:46
 
>In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National
>Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe requires
>as a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question by evacuation.
>("Jew-f ree Europe")
 
>The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
>solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally
>achieved is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the
>Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state in its
>historical boundaries.

>The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the Israel
>Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in Palestine (Irgun
>Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this way and thus completely
>liberate the Jewish people forever.
 
>The NMO, which is very familiar with the good will of the German Reich
>government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany and
>the Zionist emigration program, takes that view that:
 
>1. Common interests can exist between a European New Order based on the
>German concept and the true national aspirations of the Jewish people as
>embodied by the NMO.
 
>2. Cooperation is possible between the New Germany and a renewed, folk
>ish-national Jewry [Hebr_ertum].
 
>3. The establishment of the historical Jewish state on a national and
>totalitarian basis, and bound by treaty with the German Reich, would be in
>the interest of maintaining and strengthening the future German position of
>power in the Near East.

>On the basis of these considerations, and upon the condition that the German
>Reich government recognize the national aspirations of the Israel Freedom
>Movement mentioned above, the NMO in Palestine offers to actively take part
>in the war on the side of Germany.
 
>This offer by the NMO could include military, political and informational
>activity within Palestine and, after certain organizational measures,
>outside as well. Along with this the Jewish men of Europe would be
>militarily trained and organized in military units under the leadership and
>command of the NMO. They would take part in combat operations for the
>purpose of conquering Palestine, should such a front by formed.
 
>The indirect participation of the Israel Freedom Movement in the New Order
>of Europe, already in the preparatory stage, combined with a
>positive-radical solution of the European Jewish problem on the basis of
>the national aspirations of the Jewish people mentioned above, would
>greatly strengthen the moral foundation of the New Order in the eyes of all
>humanity.

>The cooperation of the Israel Freedom Movement would also be consistent with
>a recent speech by the German Reich Chancellor, in which Hitler stressed
>that he would utilize any combination and coalition in order to isolate and
>defeat England.

>There is no record of any German response. Acceptance was very unlikely
>anyway because by this time German policy was decisively pro-Arab.47
>Remarkably, Stern's group sought to conclude a pact with the Third Reich at
>a time when stories that Hitler was bent on exterminating Jews were already
>in wide circulation. Stern apparently either did not believe the stories or
>he was willing to collaborate with the mortal enemy of his people to help
>bring about a Jewish state. 48
 
>An important Lehi member at the time the group made this offer was Yitzhak
>Shamir, who later served as Israel's Foreign Minister and then, during much
>of the 1980s and until June 1992, as Prime Minister. As Lehi operations
>chief following Stern's death in 1942, Shamir organized numerous acts of
>terror, including the November 1944 assassination of British Middle East
>Minister Lord Moyne and the September 1948 slaying of Swedish United
>Nations mediator Count Bernadotte. Years later, when Shamir was asked about
>the 1941 offer, he confirmed that he was aware of his organization's
>proposed alliance with wartime Germany. 49
 
>Conclusion

>In spite of the basic hostility between the Hitler regime and international
>Jewry, for several years Jewish Zionist and German National Socialist
>interests coincided. In collaborating with the Zionists for a mutually
>desirable and humane solution to a complex problem, the Third Reich was
>willing to make foreign exchange sacrifices, impair relations with Britain
>and anger the Arabs. Indeed, during the 1930s no nation did more to
>substantively further Jewish-Zionist goals than Hitler's Germany.
 
>Notes
 
>1.W. Martini, "Hebr_isch unterm Hakenkreuz," Die Welt (Hamburg), Jan. 10,
>1975. Cited in: Klaus Polken, "The Secret Contacts: Zionism and Nazi
>Germany, 1933-1941," Journal of Palestine Studies, Spring-Summer 1976, p.
>65. 2.Quoted in: Ingrid Weckert, Feuerzeichen: Die "Reichskristallnacht"
>(Tübingen: Grabert, 1981), p. 212. See also: Th. Herzl, The Jewish State
>(New York: Herzl Press, 1970), pp. 33, 35, 36, and, Edwin Black, The
>Transfer Agreement (New York: Macmillan, 1984), p. 73. 3.Th. Herzl, "Der
>Kongress," Welt, June 4, 1897. Reprinted in: Theodor Herzls zionistische
>Schriften (Leon Kellner, ed.), erster Teil, Berlin: Jüdischer Verlag, 1920,
>p. 190 (and p. 139). 4.Memo of June 21, 1933, in: L. Dawidowicz, A
>Holocaust Reader (New York: Behrman, 1976), pp. 150-155, and (in part) in:
>Francis R. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the Palestine Question (Austin:
>Univ. of Texas, 1985), p. 42.; On Zionism in Germany before Hitler's
>assumption of power, see: Donald L. Niewyk, The Jews in Weimar Germany
>(Baton Rouge: 1980), pp. 94-95, 126-131, 140-143.; F. Nicosia, Third Reich
>(Austin: 1985), pp. 1-15. 5.Jüdische Rundschau (Berlin), June 13, 1933.
>Quoted in: Heinz H_hne, The Order of the Death's Head (New York:
>Ballantine, pb., 1971, 1984), pp. 376-377. 6.Heinz Höhne, The Order of the
>Death's Head (Ballantine, 1971, 1984), p. 376. 7."Berlin," Encyclopaedia
>Judaica (New York and Jerusalem: 1971), Vol. 5, p. 648. For a look at one
>aspect of this "vigorous life," see: J.-C. Horak, "Zionist Film Propaganda
>in Nazi Germany," Historical Journal of Film, Radio and Television, Vol. 4,
>No. 1, 1984, pp. 49-58. 8.Francis R. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the
>Palestine Question (1985), pp. 54-55.; Karl A. Schleunes, The Twisted Road
>to Auschwitz (Urbana: Univ. of Illinois, 1970, 1990), pp. 178-181. 9.Jacob
>Boas, "A Nazi Travels to Palestine," History Today (London), January 1980,
>pp. 33-38. 10.Facsimile reprint of front page of Das Schwarze Korps, May
>15, 1935, in: Janusz Piekalkiewicz, Israels Langer Arm (Frankfurt: Goverts,
>1975), pp. 66-67. Also quoted in: Heinz H_hne, The Order of the Death's
>Head (Ballantine, 1971, 1984), p. 377. See also: Erich Kern, ed.,
>Verheimlichte Dokumente (Munich: FZ-Verlag, 1988), p. 184. 11.Das Schwarze
>Korps, Sept. 26, 1935. Quoted in: F. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the
>Palestine Question (1985), pp. 56-57. 12.Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age
>of the Dictators (1983), p. 83. 13.F. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the
>Palestine Question (1985), p. 60. See also: F. Nicosia, "The Yishuv and the
>Holocaust," The Journal of Modern History (Chicago), Vol. 64, No. 3, Sept.
>1992, pp. 533-540. 14.F. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the Palestine
>Question (1985), p. 57. 15.Jüdische Rundschau, Sept. 17, 1935. Quoted in:
>Yitzhak Arad, with Y. Gutman and A. Margaliot, eds., Documents on the
>Holocaust (Jerusalem: Yad Vashem, 1981), pp. 82-83. 16.Der Angriff, Dec.
>23, 1935, in: E. Kern, ed., Verheimlichte Dokumente (Munich: 1988), p.
>148.; F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 56.; L. Brenner, Zionism in the
>Age of the Dictators (1983), p. 138.; A. Margaliot, "The Reaction...," Yad
>Vashem Studies (Jerusalem), vol. 12, 1977, pp. 90-91.; On Kareski's
>remarkable career, see: H. Levine, "A Jewish Collaborator in Nazi Germany,"
>Central European History (Atlanta), Sept. 1975, pp. 251-281. 17."Dr. Wise
>Urges Jews to Declare Selves as Such," New York Herald Tribune, June 13,
>1938, p. 12. 18.F. Nicosia, The Third Reich (1985), p. 53. 19.Lucy
>Dawidowicz, The War Against the Jews, 1933-1945 (New York: Bantam, pb.,
>1976), pp. 253-254.; Max Nussbaum, "Zionism Under Hitler," Congress Weekly
>(New York: American Jewish Congress), Sept. 11, 1942.; F. Nicosia, The
>Third Reich (1985), pp. 58-60, 217.; Edwin Black, The Transfer Agreement
>(1984), p. 175. 20.H. H_hne, The Order of the Death's Head (Ballantine,
>pb., 1984), pp. 380-382.; K. Schleunes, Twisted Road (1970, 1990), p. 226.;
>Secret internal SS intelligence report about F. Polkes, June 17, 1937, in:
>John Mendelsohn, ed., The Holocaust (New York: Garland, 1982), vol. 5, pp.
>62-64. 21.F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 63-64, 105, 219-220. 22.F.
>Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 160. 23.This distinction is also implicit
>in the "Balfour Declaration" of November 1917, in which the British
>government expressed support for "a national home for the Jewish people" in
>Palestine, while carefully avoiding any mention of a Jewish state.
>Referring to the majority Arab population there, the Declaration went on to
>caution, "...it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which
>may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish
>communities in Palestine." The complete text of the Declaration is
>reproduced in facsimile in: Robert John, Behind the Balfour Declaration
>(IHR, 1988), p. 32. 24.F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 121. 25.F.
>Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 124. 26.David Yisraeli, The Palestine
>Problem in German Politics 1889-1945 (Bar-Ilan University, Israel, 1974),
>p. 300.; Also in: Documents on German Foreign Policy, Series D, Vol. 5.
>Doc. No. 564 or 567. 27.K. Schleunes, The Twisted Road (1970, 1990), p.
>209. 28.Circular of January 25, 1939. Nuremberg document 3358-PS.
>International Military Tribunal, Trial of the Major War Criminals Before
>the International Military Tribunal (Nuremberg: 1947-1949), vol. 32, pp.
>242-243. Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression (Washington, DC: 1946-1948), vol.
>6, pp. 92-93. 29.F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 141-144.; On Hitler's
>critical view of Zionism in Mein Kampf, see esp. Vol. 1, Chap. 11. Quoted
>in: Robert Wistrich, Hitler's Apocalypse (London: 1985), p. 155.; See also:
>F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 26-28.; Hitler told his army adjutant
>in 1939 and again in 1941 that he had asked the British in 1937 about
>transferring all of Germany's Jews to Palestine or Egypt. The British
>rejected the proposal, he said, because it would cause further disorder.
>See: H. v. Kotze, ed., Heeresadjutant bei Hitler (Stuttgart: 1974), pp. 65,
>95. 30.F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 156, 160-164, 166-167.; H.
>H_hne, The Order of the Death's Head (Ballantine, pb., 1984), pp. 392-394.;
>Jon and David Kimche, The Secret Roads (London: Secker and Warburg, 1955),
>pp. 39-43. See also: David Yisraeli, "The Third Reich and Palestine,"
>Middle Eastern Studies, October 1971, p. 347.; Bernard Wasserstein, Britain
>and the Jews of Europe, 1939-1945 (1979), pp. 43, 49, 52, 60.; T.
>Kelly, "Man who fooled Nazis," Washington Times, April 28, 1987, pp. 1B,
>4B. Based on interview with Willy Perl, author of The Holocaust Conspiracy.
>31.Y. Arad, et al., eds., Documents On the Holocaust (1981), p. 155. (The
>training kibbutz was at Neuendorf, and may have functioned even after March
>1942.) 32.On the Agreement in general, see: Werner Feilchenfeld, et al.,
>Haavara-Transfer nach Palaestina (Tübingen: Mohr/Siebeck, 1972).; David
>Yisraeli, "The Third Reich and the Transfer Agreement," Journal of
>Contemporary History (London), No. 2, 1971, pp. 129-148.; "Haavara,"
>Encyclopaedia Judaica (1971), vol. 7, pp. 1012-1013.; F. Nicosia, The Third
>Reich and the Palestine Question (Austin: 1985), pp. 44-49.; Raul Hilberg,
>The Destruction of the European Jews (New York: Holmes and Meier, 1985),
>pp. 140-141.; The Transfer Agreement, by Edwin Black, is detailed and
>useful. However, it contains numerous inaccuracies and wildly erroneous
>conclusions. See, for example, the review by Richard S. Levy in Commentary,
>Sept. 1984, pp. 68-71. 33.E. Black, The Transfer Agreement (1984), pp. 328,
>337. 34.On opposition to the Haavara in official German circles, see: W.
>Feilchenfeld, et al., Haavara-Transfer nach Palaestina (1972), pp. 31-33.;
>D. Yisraeli, "The Third Reich," Journal of Contemporary History, 1971, pp.
>136-139.; F. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the Palestine Question, pp.
>126-139.; I. Weckert, Feuerzeichen (1981), pp. 226-227.; Rolf Vogel, Ein
>Stempel hat gefehlt (Munich: Droemer Knaur, 1977), pp. 110 ff. 35.W.
>Feilchenfeld, et al., Haavara-Transfer (1972), p. 31. Entire text in: David
>Yisraeli, The Palestine Problem in German Politics 1889-1945 (Israel:
>1974), pp. 298-300. 36.Interior Ministry internal memo (signed by State
>Secretary W. Stuckart), Dec. 17, 1937, in: Helmut Eschwege, ed.,
>Kennzeichen J (Berlin: 1966), pp. 132-136. 37.W. Feilchenfeld, et al,
>Haavara-Transfer (1972), p. 32. 38.E. Black, Transfer Agreement, pp.
>376-377. 39.E. Black, Transfer Agreement (1984), pp. 376, 378.; F. Nicosia,
>Third Reich (1985), pp. 238-239 (n. 91). 40.E. Black, Transfer Agreement,
>p. 379.; F. Nicosia, Third Reich, pp. 212, 255 (n. 66). 41.W. Feilchenfeld,
>et al., Haavara-Transfer, p. 75.; "Haavara," Encyclopaedia Judaica, (1971),
>Vol. 7, p. 1013. 42.E. Black, Transfer Agreement, pp. 379, 373, 382.
>43.Circular of January 25, 1939. Nuremberg document 3358-PS. International
>Military Tribunal, Trial of the Major War Criminals Before the
>International Military Tribunal (Nuremberg: 1947-1949), Vol. 32, pp.
>242-243. 44.Werner Feilchenfeld, et al., Haavara-Transfer nach Palaestina
>(Tübingen: Mohr/Siebeck, 1972). Quoted in: Ingrid Weckert, Feuerzeichen
>(Tübingen: Grabert, 1981), pp. 222-223. 45.W. Feilchenfeld, et al.,
>Haavara-Transfer nach Palaestina (1972). Quoted in: I. Weckert,
>Feuerzeichen (1981), p. 224. 46.Original document in German Ausw_rtiges Amt
>Archiv, Bestand 47-59, E 224152 and E 234155-58. (Photocopy in author's
>possession).; Complete original German text published in: David Yisraeli,
>The Palestine Problem in German Politics 1889-1945 (Israel: 1974), pp.
>315-317. See also: Klaus Polkhen, "The Secret Contacts," Journal of
>Palestine Studies, Spring-Summer 1976, pp. 78-80.; (At the time this offer
>was made, Stern's Lehi group still regarded itself as the true Irgun/NMO.)
>47.Arab nationalists opposed Britain, which then dominated much of the Arab
>world, including Egypt, Iraq and Palestine. Because Britain and Germany
>were at war, Germany cultivated Arab support. The leader of Palestine's
>Arabs, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin el-Husseini, worked closely
>with Germany during the war years. After escaping from Palestine, he spoke
>to the Arab world over German radio and helped raise Muslim recruits in
>Bosnia for the Waffen SS. 48.Israel Shahak, "Yitzhak Shamir, Then and Now,"
>Middle East Policy (Washington, DC), Vol. 1, No. 1, (Whole No. 39), 1992,
>pp. 27-38.; Yehoshafat Harkabi, Israel's Fateful Hour (New York: Harper and
>Row, 1988), pp. 213-214. Quoted in: Andrew J. Hurley, Israel and the New
>World Order (Santa Barbara, Calif.: 1991), pp. 93, 208-209.; Avishai
>Margalit, "The Violent Life of Yitzhak Shamir," New York Review of Books,
>May 14, 1992, pp. 18-24.; Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the
>Dictators (1983), pp. 266-269.; L. Brenner, Jews in America Today (1986),
>pp. 175-177.; L. Brenner, "Yitzhak Shamir: On Hitler's Side," Arab
>Perspectives (League of Arab States), March 1984, pp. 11-13. 49.Avishai
>Margalit, "The Violent Life of Yitzhak Shamir," New York Review of Books,
>May 14, 1992, pp. 18-24.; Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the
>Dictators (1983), pp. 266-269.; L. Brenner, Jews in America Today (1986),
>pp. 175-177.; L. Brenner, "Skeletons in Shamir's Cupboard," Middle East
>International, Sept. 30, 1983, pp. 15-16.; Sol Stern, L.
>Rapoport, "Israel's Man of the Shadows," Village Voice (New York), July 3,
>1984, pp. 13 ff.

>SSGG - When somebody talks of shutting them down, you get three hundred
>thousand "1st amendment" types jumping to the guy's defense, giving you a
>class on the Bill of Rights - Jacob Baltuch, Brandeis University
>http://www.ice.gov/pi/news/newsreleases/articles/051115chicago.htm


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You seem to dislike the exposure, by renowned researchers of the
TRUTH, that the Christkiller ZHIDS WERE ACTIVE COLLABORATORS
WITH THE NAZIS IN WWII!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL was a nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!

Now that there at least 52 proven instances, with more being revealed
each month, the world will now see what many victims have known for 60
years!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL was a nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!


>> > >The Accusations

>> > >Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>> > >"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>> > >Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>> > >In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>> > >he wrote:

>> > >'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>> > >certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

>> > >This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>> > >brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>> > >the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>> > >which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>> > >Auschwitz - the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics
>> > >of the exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>> > >escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three  weeks
>> > >notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>> > >chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>> > >plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'

>> > >Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>> > >took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>> > >bargaining end there.

>> > >Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>> > >fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>> > >to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)

>> > >These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>> > >published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>> > >"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>> > >stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>> > >I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>> > >Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>> > >political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>> > >authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>> > >was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>> > >He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>> > >keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a
>> > >few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>> > >It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
>> > >not too high for me.

>> > >.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>> > >cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>> > >smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>> > >and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and  reserve
>> > >he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>> > >Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>> > >of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...

>> > >As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>> > >attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>> > >Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>> > >thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>> > >goal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>> > >group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>> > >keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>> > >After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>> > >That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)

>> > >Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>> > >merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>> > >equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is the term
>> > >that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>> > >accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying 'In these
>> > >circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd'.

>> > >Are the accusations against Kastner true?

>> > >According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>> > >Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>> > >accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>> > >than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>> > >Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>> > >Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>> > >prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

>> > >The Verdict

>> > >Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
>> > >Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>> > >The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>> > >studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>> > >has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>> > >community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>> > >in bad taste and contrary to common sense.

>> > >It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
>> > >complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>> > >the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>> > >its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>> > >backfire on the censors themselves.

>> > >Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>> > >became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:

>> > >"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>> > >deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>> > >confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>> > >Kenyermeze.

>> > >The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>> > >they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

>> > >The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>> > >rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>> > >others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>> > >the Jews.
>> > >They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>> > >of Jewish leaders.

>> > >The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>> > >leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>> > >spreading such false information and did not protest.

>> > >Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>> > >persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.

>> > >The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>> > >knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>> > >deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>> > >quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>> > >hampering the deportation orders.

>> > >Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>> > >dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>> > >these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>> > >the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

>> > >And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>> > >Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

>> > >The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>> > >Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>> > >their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>> > >who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>> > >deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>> > >in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.

>> > >The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>> > >extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>> > >in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>> > >this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>> > >dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>> > >its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>> > >Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>> > >catastrophe.

>> > >The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>> > >Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

>> > >The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>> > >ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>> > >expensively if honorably guided.

>> > >Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>> > >exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.

>> > >The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>> > >Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>> > >task easier.

>> > >The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>> > >summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>> > >not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>> > >chiefs.
>> > >It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>> > >Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>> > >underground.

>> > >The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>> > >Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>> > >the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>> > >Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

>> > >The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>> > >these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>> > >the extermination plan of the killers ?

>> > >The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>> > >Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>> > >friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>> > >annihilation.

>> > >The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>> > >six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>> > >Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>> > >attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>> > >to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>> > >great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>> > >would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>> > >the Nazi patronage of his committee.

>> > >When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>> > >soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>> > >of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>> > >agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>> > >the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>> > >Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>> > >Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>> > >An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>> > >Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>> > >and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>> > >condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>> > >and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>> > >from the book of the living.

>> > >One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>> > >put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>> > >only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>> > >area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>> > >rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

>> > >All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>> > >to evade this truth.

>> > >Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>> > >wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted  quickly
>> > >to another."

>> > >(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>> > >General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).

>> > >Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>> > >Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>> > >'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>> > >"From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>> > >stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

>> > >According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>> > >Jews.

>> > >This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>> > >'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>> > >of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>> > >criminals.

>> > >Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>> > >achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>> > >Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

>> > >Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>> > >Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>> > >Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

>> > >In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>> > >the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

>> > >All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>> > >were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler". (ibid)

>> > >Judge Halevi continues:

>> > >"Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>> > >when he denied he had interceded in Becher's hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>> > >the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>> > >Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

>> > >As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>> > >defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>> > >remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.

>> > >The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>> > >criminal.

>> > >The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>> > >testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in  the
>> > >activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>> > >minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>> > >truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

>> > >Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>> > >stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>> > >declared in the affidavit.

>> > >The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>> > >but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>> > >and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment
>> > >the good intention of good Becher'.

>> > >It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>> > >his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>> > >World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>> > >exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>> > >of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>> > >contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>> > >sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>> > >was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>> > >Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>> > >given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>> > >in Nuremberg.

>> > >Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>> > >accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>> > >his statements." (ibid)

>> > >Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>> > >libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>> > >accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>> > >partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>> > >ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>> > >pounds as court costs.

>> > >In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>> > >been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

>> > >Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>> > >completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>> > >matter.

>> > >If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>> > >individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>> > >attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>> > >pointed to much more than that.

>> > >But the story does not end there.






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Subject: ZYD KOLLABORACI WITH NAZIS=KASTNER, RUMKOWSLI, WIESENTHAL + 51 More!! Part 2/3
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You seem to dislike the exposure, by renowned researchers of the
TRUTH, that the Christkiller ZHIDS WERE ACTIVE COLLABORATORS
WITH THE NAZIS IN WWII!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL was a nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!

Now that there at least 52 proven instances, with more being revealed
each month, the world will now see what many victims have known for 
60 years!!

>> > >The Accusations

>> > >Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>> > >"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>> > >Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>> > >In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>> > >he wrote:

>> > >'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>> > >certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

>> > >This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>> > >brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>> > >the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>> > >which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>> > >Auschwitz - the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics
>> > >of the exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>> > >escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three  weeks
>> > >notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>> > >chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>> > >plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'

>> > >Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>> > >took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>> > >bargaining end there.

>> > >Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>> > >fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>> > >to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)

>> > >These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>> > >published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>> > >"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>> > >stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>> > >I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>> > >Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>> > >political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>> > >authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>> > >was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>> > >He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>> > >keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a
>> > >few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>> > >It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
>> > >not too high for me.

>> > >.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>> > >cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>> > >smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>> > >and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and  reserve
>> > >he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>> > >Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>> > >of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...

>> > >As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>> > >attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>> > >Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>> > >thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>> > >goal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>> > >group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>> > >keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>> > >After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>> > >That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)

>> > >Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>> > >merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>> > >equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is the term
>> > >that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>> > >accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying 'In these
>> > >circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd'.

>> > >Are the accusations against Kastner true?

>> > >According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>> > >Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>> > >accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>> > >than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>> > >Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>> > >Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>> > >prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

>> > >The Verdict

>> > >Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
>> > >Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>> > >The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>> > >studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>> > >has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>> > >community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>> > >in bad taste and contrary to common sense.

>> > >It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
>> > >complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>> > >the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>> > >its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>> > >backfire on the censors themselves.

>> > >Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>> > >became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:

>> > >"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>> > >deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>> > >confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>> > >Kenyermeze.

>> > >The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>> > >they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

>> > >The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>> > >rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>> > >others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>> > >the Jews.
>> > >They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>> > >of Jewish leaders.

>> > >The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>> > >leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>> > >spreading such false information and did not protest.

>> > >Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>> > >persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.

>> > >The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>> > >knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>> > >deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>> > >quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>> > >hampering the deportation orders.

>> > >Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>> > >dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>> > >these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>> > >the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

>> > >And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>> > >Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

>> > >The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>> > >Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>> > >their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>> > >who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>> > >deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>> > >in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.

>> > >The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>> > >extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>> > >in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>> > >this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>> > >dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>> > >its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>> > >Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>> > >catastrophe.

>> > >The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>> > >Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

>> > >The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>> > >ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>> > >expensively if honorably guided.

>> > >Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>> > >exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.

>> > >The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>> > >Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>> > >task easier.

>> > >The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>> > >summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>> > >not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>> > >chiefs.
>> > >It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>> > >Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>> > >underground.

>> > >The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>> > >Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>> > >the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>> > >Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

>> > >The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>> > >these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>> > >the extermination plan of the killers ?

>> > >The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>> > >Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>> > >friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>> > >annihilation.

>> > >The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>> > >six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>> > >Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>> > >attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>> > >to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>> > >great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>> > >would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>> > >the Nazi patronage of his committee.

>> > >When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>> > >soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>> > >of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>> > >agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>> > >the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>> > >Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>> > >Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>> > >An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>> > >Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>> > >and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>> > >condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>> > >and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>> > >from the book of the living.

>> > >One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>> > >put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>> > >only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>> > >area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>> > >rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

>> > >All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>> > >to evade this truth.

>> > >Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>> > >wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted  quickly
>> > >to another."

>> > >(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>> > >General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).

>> > >Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>> > >Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>> > >'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>> > >"From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>> > >stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

>> > >According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>> > >Jews.

>> > >This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>> > >'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>> > >of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>> > >criminals.

>> > >Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>> > >achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>> > >Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

>> > >Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>> > >Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>> > >Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

>> > >In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>> > >the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

>> > >All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>> > >were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler". (ibid)

>> > >Judge Halevi continues:

>> > >"Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>> > >when he denied he had interceded in Becher's hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>> > >the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>> > >Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

>> > >As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>> > >defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>> > >remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.

>> > >The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>> > >criminal.

>> > >The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>> > >testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in  the
>> > >activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>> > >minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>> > >truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

>> > >Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>> > >stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>> > >declared in the affidavit.

>> > >The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>> > >but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>> > >and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment
>> > >the good intention of good Becher'.

>> > >It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>> > >his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>> > >World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>> > >exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>> > >of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>> > >contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>> > >sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>> > >was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>> > >Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>> > >given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>> > >in Nuremberg.

>> > >Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>> > >accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>> > >his statements." (ibid)

>> > >Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>> > >libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>> > >accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>> > >partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>> > >ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>> > >pounds as court costs.

>> > >In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>> > >been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

>> > >Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>> > >completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>> > >matter.

>> > >If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>> > >individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>> > >attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>> > >pointed to much more than that.

>> > >But the story does not end there.






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Subject: Exposing the Holocaust=HOLOHOAX--REVISIONIST HERESY
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Exposing the Holocaust--REVISIONIST HERESY

On 12 Nov 2006 18:40:03 -0800, in alt.revisionism "hoaxbuster@earthlink.net"
 wrote:

REVISIONIST HERESY

Just as there were no weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in Iraq prior
to the recent war-no Jews or gentiles were ever killed in gas
chambers or gas vans by the Nazis during World War 2. The
"intelligence experts" and "scholars" were and are wrong.
Whatever crimes and atrocities the Nazis and Hitler did commit, they
certainly did not include gassings of Jews nor anyone else. The
historians have blindly accepted the wildest pseudo-scientific nonsense
imaginable.

The Jews were still alive

The simplest reason for rejecting the Holocaust story is that the vast
majority of European Jews were still alive at the end of World War 2.
Professor Arthur Butz, the author of The Hoax of the Twentieth Century,
made this claim nearly thirty years ago-and he was absolutely correct
as the following quote from a credible, recent Jewish source shows.

The Jewish Week 11-28-2003
http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=8774&offset
=10&B1=1&author=Stewart%20Ain&issuedates=oneday&month=&day=&year
=&issuedate=20031128&keyword=
"Two new studies to determine the location of Jewish Holocaust
survivors, for use in making future allocations to the most needy,
differ widely on the number of survivors worldwide, The Jewish Week has
learned. Sergio Della Pergola, a demographer for the Institute of
Contemporary Jewry at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, found
1,092,000 survivors worldwide. Jacob Ukeles, a policy researcher in
Manhattan, found 688,000. The Ukeles survey, an update of one he
prepared in 2000 for the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against
Germany, found only minor differences from his previous effort.
Lawrence Eagleburger, chairman of the International Commission on
Holocaust Era Insurance Claims, commissioned both surveys. Eagleburger
had hoped to use the figures in determining how to distribute $13.2
million annually in humanitarian funds for needy survivors worldwide."

Clearly, the numbers of "Jewish holocaust survivors" alive more
than fifty-five years after the war are so enormous that one must
surely wonder if any Jews at all perished in World War 2. Any
conservative and reasonable statistical analysis of population decline
over fifty-five years would surely conclude that there were more than
six million Jewish "holocaust survivors" alive at the end of the
war. No doubt, some innocent Jews were killed-but, there is no good
reason to believe Jewish deaths were statistically unusual for a long,
horrific war in which many tens of millions of innocent civilians were
killed of all nationalities. On the basis of numbers alone-the
generally accepted story is a monumental hoax. The continued worldwide
acceptance of that hoax, even in Germany, is a tribute to the enormous
power and influence of the supposed victms and the Jewish community in
general. The uniqueness of the alleged mass gassings has also appealed
to the darker side of the human imagination and gullibility.

The hoax has become a new religion which one must believe without
question or be condemned as "evil"-even imprisoned as in Germany
or Austria, and ruined as well. "Guilt for the holocaust" has come
to replace "original sin" for which all except the jewish victims
themselves must "bear responsibility."

Friedrich Paul Berg
Learn everything at www.nazigassings.com
The "holocaust" is racist hate propaganda.  
Nazi Gassings Never Happened!


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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