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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:05:11 GMT, Carter  wrote:
>Tiberius Rex wrote:
>> The key question was:
>> Why should foreigners - i.e. non-Albertans be offered an extra
>> $5,000.00 not offered to locals?

>Probably because it wouldn't cost that much to get an Albertan to 
>relocate to Alberta.  You talk as if the $5000 dollars is a gift.  It 
>is not, it is relocation costs.

It IS a gift, since Superstore refuses to pay such largesse to
residents of Alberta, to relocate to Deadmonton or wherever their jobs
are!!

In fact, Stupidstore is NOW offering a $1,000 bonus to new employees,
to be paid AFTER working 1000 hours.

want to bet they will terminate workers just before 1000 hours, just
to avoid paying?

>BTW, Maritimers are not exactly foreigners, the happen to live in the 
>same country as Albertans.
>Carter

As far as residing in Alberta, they are foreigners.

>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:55:47 GMT, Carter  wrote:
>>> Tiberius Rex wrote:
>>>> Media this past week have been reporting that Westfair Foods,
>>>> operating as Superstore in Alberta have been trying to recruit people
>>>> from the Maritimes, to work in their stores in Alberta.
>>>>
>>>> They are offering Maritimers, besides wages:
>>>> free round-trip airfares
>>>> one month rent paid by Superstore
>>>> all moving/relocation costs
>>>>
>>>> These add up to around an extr5a $5,000 - which Superstore 
>>>> is NOT offering to workers in Alberta!!
>>> Why would Superstore make that offer to Albertans?  Albertans already 
>>> live in Alberta, Don't they?
>>>
>>> Carter
>> 



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Subject: Re: 2 more Aussie Drug Traffickers to be Hanged - GOOD!
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At least the government of Indonesia know what to do with garbage
people, such as drug dealers.

They know, as do other sensible governments in the area, that an
executed criminal will never re-offend!!

Further, an executed waste of skin, will not cost the taxpayers for
the upkeep in some pampering prison system!!

If only the justice systems in North America would follow suit!!!


On 17 Feb 2006 18:43:24 -0800, "LifeManTalking" 
wrote:

>AUSTRALIA - Few Australians have much sympathy for Andrew Chan and
>Myuran Sukumaran, the two drug traffickers sentenced to death in Bali
>this week for their failed bid to smuggle more than 8kg of heroin on to
>the streets of Sydney.

>The lives of too many of their young people have been destroyed by
>drugs and, as innumerable letters to newspapers and callers to talkback
>radio have pointed out, Chan and Sukumaran could never have been in any
>doubt of the risk they took in running narcotics through Indonesia.

>But the prospect of the pair being taken from Kerobokan jail, tied to a
>tree in some lonely clearing, and shot by a paramilitary firing squad
>raises deep and disturbing moral, political and diplomatic dilemmas for
>a nation that last executed a criminal almost 40 years ago and now
>opposes the death penalty worldwide.

>Their own police provided the information that inevitably led to
>Tuesday's sentence. Their Government welcomed the death penalty given
>to the Bali bombers but opposes the same fate for Australian drug
>traffickers, and public opinion is repulsed by the prospect of
>executions at home but inconsistently accepts them abroad.

>It is a diplomatic minefield that Canberra traversed when
>Vietnamese-born Melburnian Van Tuong Nguyen was hanged in Singapore in
>December for taking heroin through Changi airport, despite Australian
>appeals for clemency.

>It is also a minefield that the nation will confront time and again:
>despite repeated warnings and the appalling reality of executions,
>there will always be people foolish enough to strap drugs to their
>bodies or conceal it in their luggage.

>Almost all will pass through Southeast Asia, the source of most of
>Australia's heroin (the Bali Nine consignment originated in Thailand)
>and where every country but Cambodia compulsorily hangs, shoots or
>lethally injects traffickers.

>Mike Phelan, the head of international operations for the Australian
>Federal Police and the man responsible for giving Indonesia the
>information it needed to arrest the Bali Nine, sees no end to the queue
>of couriers the trade calls "mules".

>"It continues to astound me that people attempt importations and move
>drugs through transit countries knowing that the death penalty exists,"
>he told ABC's Australian Story. "Many young lives get thrown away for
>the law of quick dollars."

>The AFP's role in the arrest of the Bali Nine is among the most
>sensitive of the issues facing Prime Minister John Howard, who has
>already weathered a barrage of criticism that has extended even into
>his own party room.

>The AFP caught the first whispers of a major heroin importing run in
>February last year and, in April, asked the Indonesian police to help
>uncover the members of the syndicate and the source of their supplies.

>Between them, the two forces discovered most of the names and built a
>remarkably accurate picture of their operation, including details of a
>previous successful run and another aborted attempt.

>This co-operation has become increasingly commonplace, spurred by the
>determination of all countries in the region to attack drug trafficking
>and terrorism. Intelligence swapping is required under a number of
>treaties.

>"We make no secret of the fact that the AFP has a policy of forward
>engagement where we want to stop the crimes at the source and (prevent
>them) from reaching Australian shores," Phelan said. "That's a practice
>we will continue to operate within."

>What worries many Australians is the fact that the AFP in effect turned
>over a group of young Australians to a country it knew was likely to
>execute them, rather than arresting them when they arrived home.

>The most emotional response centred on Scott Rush, 20, a drug mule who
>was jailed for life. His family, through lawyer Bob Myers, vainly asked
>the AFP to warn Rush of their interest before he left Australia.

>"No Australian public servant has the right to expose any Australian
>citizen to the death penalty," Myers told Australian Story.

>Rush and fellow mules Renae Lawrence, Martin Stephens and Michael
>Czugaj took the AFP to the Federal Court, claiming it had acted
>illegally by exposing them to the death penalty.

>While a large part of public opinion agreed, the court dismissed the
>action.

>The Government has also sidestepped criticism, pointing out that while
>the relevant treaty with Indonesia contains a clause allowing the
>Attorney-General to refuse to provide evidence if an Australian was
>charged with an offence carrying the death penalty, the AFP was free to
>do as it thought best until charges were laid.

>By the time the Bali Nine were formally charged, all the damaging
>evidence had been gathered.

>Phelan is unrepentant: "Basically all transit countries through which
>drugs come to Australia have the death penalty. The AFP cannot pick and
>choose who it chooses to cooperate with."

>International teamwork in the past few years has significantly reduced
>the flow of drugs into Australia. The most recent Australian Crime
>Commission figures, for 2003-04, show the lowest seizures of heroin for
>a decade.

>Refusal to co-operate abroad would outrage regional governments and
>threaten mutual action against other drug syndicates and terrorism.

>Public opinion in Southeast Asia also strongly favours the death
>penalty for traffickers, with polls in Singapore and Thailand showing
>support of up to 80 per cent.

>In Australia, opinion is more confused. A Morgan poll in November found
>that while only 27 per cent of Australians favoured the death penalty
>for murder, 57 per cent believed drug traffickers caught in Asia should
>die.

>Yet in the specific case of Van Nguyen, opinion was evenly divided.

>In The Australian, a newspoll found that more than 50 per cent of
>Australians favoured the death sentence for people convicted of major
>acts of terrorism.

>Howard now has to weigh all these conflicting factors in framing
>Canberra's approach to the executions of Chan and Sukumaran. He has
>said publicly he has no sympathy for the two men but will vigorously
>pursue Australia's long-standing opposition to the death penalty.

>How that is carried out will test Australian diplomacy.

>Apart from the risks to a fragile relationship, observers have pointed
>out that any blunt approach will almost certainly stiffen backs in
>Jakarta and end any chance of clemency.

>Hopes of saving Chan and Sukumaran now rest with Indonesia's
>inconsistent record in carrying out executions, the fact that in recent
>times only three of the more than 85 prisoners on death row have been
>shot, and the lengthy legal road still to be travelled.

>It may be years before their case moves through the Denpasar provincial
>High Court and the two reviews possible through the Supreme Court in
>Jakarta.

>And though President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has said he will never
>grant clemency to drug traffickers, time and quiet diplomacy may change
>his mind.

>Death penalty Australia's double dilemma 
>
>18.02.06
>By Greg Ansley



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The Edmonton Journal, in a banner headline story on page B1 of today's
paper, exposes yet another swindle involving Edmonton's crooked cops!!

They exposed a so-called CHARITY SCAM, for a so-called "benefit" game
run under the style of "Oldtimers Hockey Challenge".

This scam collected more than $250,000 through fraudulent telephone
solicitors, claiming the money was going to a charity.

In fact, only $20,000 actually goes to a local women's shelter safe
house.

Almost all the money goes to a scam business called Xentel DM Inc, out
of Calgary, not even a local business. In the USA, XENTEL has been the
subject of investigations alleging deceptive telemarketing, as well as
for breaching do-not-call laws.

In Iowa, in November 2004, Xentel was forced to stop abusive and
misleading calls in fundraising and solicitations, and was forced to
pay $30,000 in penalties.

Since almost all the money goes to a for-profit business, rather than
to a registered charity, why isn't the provincial government charging
the crooks and their sponsors with FRAUD?

This scam was being promoted by the Edmonton Police Faded Blues 
Hockey team.

Just one more scandal for the new chief to clean up!


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Subject: Re: Edmonton cop suspended for Brutality-Local Gestapo  Thugs!!  AVOID Edmonton - MORE Crimes By Cops!
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In the Edmonton Journal for today 1st July 2006, on page B2, is yet
one more story about another crooked cop charged with criminal
assault!!

A cop with 24 years service, Jan Cichon 53, was charged with assault,
a criminal charge, in connection with yet another criminal assault on
a civilian.

he is still on the public payroll, with his first court appearance on
27 July, more than 6 months after the criminal act.

It seems there is no end to the number of criminal charges to get
filed against all the crooked cops in Edmonton.

Plus, do not forget the CRA charges against many cops for FRAUD, in
connection with fraudulently transferring overtime pay!!


On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:17:49 -0600, Frank Arthur 
wrote:

>The Edmonton Journal for today,Thursday 29 June 2006, has a full page of
>letters to the editor, denouncing the brutality of the Edmonton Police!!


>On 25 Jun 2006 12:18:00 -0700,  wrote:
>>http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Alberta/2006/06/24/1650687-sun.html
>
>>Contact the Sun
>>Submit Photos
>>Reader Feedback
>>About the Sun
>>Buy SUN Photos
>
>>Sat, June 24, 2006
>
>>Edmonton officer suspended for alleged Whyte Ave. incident
>>UPDATED: 2006-06-24 02:07:43 MST
>
>>By AJAY BHARDWAJ, SUN MEDIA
>
>>EDMONTON -- An Edmonton cop has been suspended without pay after
>>allegations of misconduct while off-duty on Whyte Ave., during Edmonton
>>Oiler celebrations.
>
>>Staff Sgt. Greg Alcorn confirmed Const. Sebastien Berube was suspended
>>without pay June 15.
>>
>>Police Chief Mike Boyd has 30 days to report the suspension to the
>>Edmonton Police Commission, which will hold a hearing to decide whether
>>to reinstate his pay.
>
>>Alcorn wouldn't provide the reasons Berube was suspended.
>
>>But sources said, among other things, Berube violated the parking ban
>>on Whyte Ave. during Oilers' post-game celebration.
>
>>When cops working the avenue asked him to move his vehicle, he
>>allegedly struggled with officers before being subdued.
>
>>Suspending a cop without pay is rare. Two officers who face criminal
>>charges in connection with the awarding of a city photo radar contract
>>were suspended by Boyd, but continue to collect their paycheques.
>
>>Whyte Ave. was a simmering cauldron of trouble for cops as the Oilers
>>advanced to within a game of winning the Stanley Cup.
>
>>Costs of policing Whyte Ave. as the Oilers knocked off opponents on the
>>way to the Cup ballooned to $2.2 million, up from an estimated $1.2
>>million.
>
>>The price tag could rise even further when Camrose cops and the RCMP
>>submit their bill for helping out, but Boyd said the $2.2-million
>>estimate was close to the mark.
>
>>Police made more than 800 arrests during the Whyte Ave. celebrations
>>during the course of the playoffs.
>
>But, only a handful have actually been charged!!
>
>It seems the crooked cops just wanted media coverage, to pretend they were
>actually working!!
>
>
>The local media had a great day publicising the torture of a young woman by
>another rogue Edmonton cop!!
>
>This Gestapo-like thug was photographed by several reporters, while he beat
>the handcuffed young lady and threw her face onto the pavement, breaking open
>her face!
>
>In another incident the same night, a 66 year old lawyer , Brian Fish, was
>tasered illegally, for taking pictures of police brutality. He is now laying
>charges against the cops involved.
>
>And the police chief seems to be doing nothing about all his crooked cops!
>Is this why Mike Boyd was refused the Chief's position in Toronto?
>
>Guess Chief Boyd was too busy wasting $2,200,000 of taxpayers money 
>setting up his thugs to torture civilians?
>
>Mind you, the inept cops still have not caught the serial killer of more than
>100 prostitutes, or even the killers of another 2 people this week!!
>
>
>On 2006-06-19 11:53:03 -0400, Boadicea  said:
>
>> The Edmonton Journal for today - 19 June 2006 - carries 2 pages full
>> of photos showing the Edmonton Gestapo TORTURING a woman, who was not 
>> resisting!!
>
>> Guess the crooked cops forgot that there are people taking
>> photographs?
>
>> And the jew mayor sees nothing wrong with police brutality.
>> Guess he belongs to the kill-a palestinian school of torture?
>
>> And they wonder why tourists around the world are starting to avoid
>> visiting UNSAFE Canada!!
>
>
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Jeff, dear fool, the story is completely true, and correct.

Whether  you work for Sears, or not, may all your personal ID be
obtained by an identity thief, so that you may understand the problem.


On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:04:37 GMT, "Jeff Stapleton"
 wrote:
>"Nemesis"  wrote in message 
>news:REM5A56038898.528287037@twistycreek.com...
>> It seems that Sears in Canada is illegally distributing personal data of 
>> its' customers.
>>
>> A charge has been filed with the Alberta Privacy Commissioner, proving 
>> that a major Sears store in Edmonton illegally provided personal confidential information of 
>> a customer, to someone who was most definitely NOT the customer. The Alberta government 
>> is prosecuting, to teach Sears that they are not above the law.
>>
>> This situation came to light when the victim received in the mail, from an 
>> anonymous source,  the actual store copy of the receipt involved.
>>
>> HIS personal info including 2 unlisted phone numbers were clearly printed 
>> on the invoice  receipt, together with ther actual customer's VISA card number.
>> Someone had even written on the bill, "wrong number", but the customer was 
>> still given all the details of the original Sears customer.
>>
>> In other words, one MUST NOT TRUST SEARS!


>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)


>yo spammer give it up already 




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Frank Arthur dislikes the TRUTH!
He is only interested in zionazi propaganda, where he blames everyone
else for all the murders and atrocoities of his fellow ZHYDS!!


On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:52:10 -0400, "seven" 
wrote:

>Hey Frankfurt,
>Why does an asshole like you write all this anti-jew shit and then attack 
>anyone who says stuff against them that is real, you shit all over the 
>kitchen floor?You're stupiddddder than any jew! 

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
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In Edmonton Canada a week ago, a 66 year old lawyer was criminally
tasered by a rogue cop, for photographing police brutality on innocent
civilians!!

Sort of like what the cops did to Rodney King!!

No wonder the Edmonton Gestapo are getting such an unsavoury worldwide
reputation!!

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:13:22 -0500, "harmony"  wrote:
>"RogerRabbit"  wrote in message 
>news:2j8pg.2663$5J6.2016@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net...
>> usenet@mantra.comnRi1f0l7M or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
>> wrote:
>>> Man charged after videotaping police
>>>
>>> http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1658296/posts
>>>
>>> Jai Maharaj
>>> http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
>>> http://www.mantra.com/jai
>>> Om Shanti
>>
>> Very shocking to read this. Is this true that owning such devices are 
>> against the law?

>blame it on 9/11, "which has changed everything" as bushistas never tire of 
>remind us. 




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A very good point.
Guess we must then find and use servers not connected with
Germany,Austria, or Canada or UK?
Care to suggest a good server that will not be coerced?


On 29 Jun 2006 13:49:17 -0000, TwistyCreek 
wrote:
>NotMyName  wrote:
>
>> So, time to switch from Netidentity and TUCOWS, to a good US server,
>> such as 1&1.com, or Netzero.
>
>Fun Fact:
>1&1 US is controlled by its german mother 1&1. If german courts extend
>their reach as US courts tend to do, you better don't host any Nazi stuff
>on 1&1 servers.



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DEFINITELY A REAL SCAM!!

Canada Immigration is extremely apprehensive about letting people from
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ZYDS, who dislike the Polish and Palestinians because they blame
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By the way, legitimate immigration consultants MUST BE REGTISTERED
WITH CANADA IMMIGRATION.
There is no knowledge of this business with the Government of Canada!!


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The Edmonton Journal for yesterday 29 June 2006 had a full page of
letters to the editor complaining about the police brutality!!

These comments are apart from concern by the taxpayers regarding the
supposed extra $2.2MILLION cost claimed by the new police chief.
Guess his undercover rioters did not come cheap?
Is this part of the reason Toronto refused repeatedly to give Mike
Boyd the position of Chief Cop?

Chief Boyd admits that there are at least 35 unresolved complaints
filed against his police in connection with police brutality over the
past week or so!


On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:17:52 -0600, Frank Arthur 
wrote:

>The local media had a great day publicising the torture of a young woman by
>another rogue Edmonton cop!!

>This Gestapo-like thug was photographed by several reporters, while he beat
>the handcuffed young lady and threw her face onto the pavement, breaking open
>her face!

>In another incident the same night, a 66 year old lawyer , Brian Fish, was
>tasered illegally, for taking pictures of police brutality. He is now laying
>charges against the cops involved.

>And the police chief seems to be doing nothing about all his crooked cops!
>Is this why Mike Boyd was refused the Chief's position in Toronto?

>Guess Chief Boyd was too busy wasting $2,200,000 of taxpayers money 
>setting up his thugs to torture civilians?

>Mind you, the inept cops still have not caught the serial killer of more than
>100 prostitutes, or even the killers of another 2 people this week!!


>On 2006-06-19 11:53:03 -0400, Boadicea  said:

>> The Edmonton Journal for today - 19 June 2006 - carries 2 pages full
>> of photos showing the Edmonton Gestapo TORTURING a woman, who was not 
>> resisting!!

>> Guess the crooked cops forgot that there are people taking
>> photographs?

>> And the jew mayor sees nothing wrong with police brutality.
>> Guess he belongs to the kill-a palestinian school of torture?

>> And they wonder why tourists around the world are starting to avoid
>> visiting UNSAFE Canada!!



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If you are guilty of breaking the laws in China, then you deserve
whatever pena;ty is usual in China.

In other words, if you do the crime, then you deserve the time, even
if it is short, until execution.

On 1 Jul 2006 22:14:59 -0700, "fyfpoon@gmail.com" 
wrote:
>Dennis G. wrote:
>> "fyfpoon@gmail.com"  wrote:
>> >Dennis G. wrote:
>> >> "fyfpoon@gmail.com"  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Is there a standardized definition of human right in the world?
>> >>
>> >> "Now, Therefore THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY proclaims THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF
>> >> HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all
>> >> nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping
>> >> this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to
>> >> promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures,
>> >> national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition
>> >> and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the
>> >> peoples of territories under their jurisdiction."
>> >>
>> >> From: http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html
>> >>
>> >> Note that the Declaration makes no allowance for economic differences between
>> >> member states and note also that China is a signatore of the document.
>> >>
>> >> Jailing people who do not think like the rulers is the heart of despotism.
>> >>  If you wish to compare China to the Nazi's be sure you consider that Chinese
>> >> citizens are not free to elect their own leaders from a broad spectrum of
>> >> political platforms anymore then were the citizens of the Third Reich or the
>> >> people of Soviet dominated Eastern Europe.
>> >>
>> >> China needs to keep its promise to the UN.
>> >
>> >There is no thought police in China at the present time.
>>
>> Are all persons in China free to speak their opinions in Tiannemen Square now?
>
>If they  don't go out into the streets with a loud speaker, yes. But
>obviously the DEGREE of freedom of speech is nowhere near that of
>Canada.
>
>> If people are not free to speak their opinions(except those that advocate
>> harming the rights of others), how can they be siad to be free to think what
>> they will. They have no source for new ideas if none can ever be expressed
>> except by government.
>>
>>  >There used to
>> >be under Mao but it was the days of communism.  Now China is a
>> >capitalist country.  Hong Kong under the British for 150 years did not
>> >have democracy but HK was in every sense a capitalist country.  So did
>> >the British government in HK violate human rights?.  If it did, then it
>> >would suggest the government of Great Britain was also guilty of human
>> >right violation.  Since there is no thought police in China, your claim
>> >that "Jailing people who do not think like the rulers is the heart of
>> >despotism" is factually incorrect.  It is a meaningless slogan.
>> >
>> The slogan is not meaningless to those who are jailed for speaking their minds.
>>
>> IMo, the colonial powers did breach human rights.
>> But like China, Britain signed the Declaration in 1947 and so you must compare
>> the freedom in HK with the freedom in China after that signing.
>>
>The DEGREE of freedom in China is lower than that in Hong Kong...so?
>These two places have come through different socio-political
>orientations.
>
>> >There is election in China but the election does not take the form of
>> >multiparty democracy or universal or one vote for each person election.
>> > Does the observance of human rights have to be  predicated upon the
>> >existence of a multiparty political system?
>> >
>> The  number of parties is not important but the freedom to advocate change from
>> the status quo is. One party or no party and everything in between could
>> accomadate freedom of speech within the law.
>>
>Important to who????  Important to the people who want to run the show
>or the people living there.  Do you know how mixed the population in
>that part of the world is.  Have you been to XinXiang?  The non-muslim
>population there may even be more than the muslim people.  So should
>the muslims decide who can stay and who can go, and who kind of schools
>or language can be used, and religon organizations, etc..?  Sorry, the
>current development in China does not permit the advocation of certain
>changes such as independence of any region.  If the law over there does
>not permit something and you go ahead to challenge it, then you bear
>the consequences.  It is as simple as that.
>
>> >As China is progressive forward, more and more democratic reforms will
>> >surface.  But that does not mean it will necessarily tolerate
>> >individuals calling for and mobilizing independence of any province in
>> >order to comply with human right observation.  There is no stipulation
>> >in the UN charter
>> >of human rights that this has to be so.
>> >
>> The freedom to speak includes the advocay of independence for a particular
>> reason. The charter specifically names self-determination as protected.
>> China is arresting people because of what they advocate and what they believe
>> because it is different from the beliefs of the rulers.
>>
>The Chinese government not only arrests people who advocate
>independence, but also as in the case of Taiwan will resort to military
>solution to make sure no independence over there will materialize, and
>will even confront the US if the US comes to the help of Taiwan.  This
>is reality.  Go ahead to argue with it.  From the perspective of
>textbook political science students, it is OK to arrest drug smugglers
>while it is not OK to do the same thing to those who advocate
>independence, because drug is 'bad' and independence is 'good'.  In the
>real world, drugs hurt only a few while independence in that part of
>the world and at this time means bloodshed and millions being
>victimized.  Is every country in the world abiding 100% to the UN
>charter to which it is a signatory?  If China abides in some areas
>while in other areas the observance is less than textbook perfect, what
>can any other nation do about it? What can any other nation do about US
>invasion of Iraq?  Do you know that Great Britain even considered using
>nuclear weapon against China when the talk over HK failed to
>materialize in favor of the British side.  So you seem to be battling
>for justice in this unjust world and you place yourself on the side of
>the just.  Don't you?  It is might over right!  It was that way and it
>is that way and it will always been that way.  So go over it, sonni.
>
>> >Thus the observance of human rights is in principle applicable to all
>> >nations but that does not mean the ways by which this observance is
>> >practiced are standardized globally.  The differences are a function of
>> >many factors and one of them is the difference in the amount of
>> >economic freedom in each nation.
>> >
>> Please explain how economics reduces the human rights of some poor people as
>> compared to rights possessed by rich people?
>
>Economics is a study, and I have never mentioned this discipline of
>study "reduces the human rights of some poor people as compared to
>rights possessed by rich people".  You do NOT understand what I said
>and you just came out with a couple of sentences containing these
>words, pretending you understand.  I have been saying all along that
>political freedom and economic freedom go hand in hand; the more
>economic freedom a nation has, the more political freedom the people
>there enjoys.
>
>Whatever will happen to this Canadian will serve as an example to other
>Canadians that a law is a law, whether it is in Canada or China or in
>Indonesia, and as such has to be respected for what it is.  By the way,
>you have not answered my question how you are sure this Canadian who is
>about to get shot has not organized anything violent in that part of
>the world.  Some Chinese political dissidents also advocated the
>independence of Tibet or Taiwan, and got locked up in jail for years.
>Few I know have been shot.  On the other hand, those who did not
>advocate with their mouths but did so by planting bombs were shot as
>fast as they were nailed down; no color TV and hot water bath, and warm
>soup... sorry.   So please go ahead to convince me that this Canadian
>has not organized anything violent over there.  Did he simply go there
>and preach peace like Gan Day of India?  Or was he into something more
>exotic than that?
>
>FP
>
>==================
> reduces >
>> >If you know you will get locked up by smuggling mariguana into the US
>> >at this time, then you should refrain from doing it regardless how much
>> >you believe it is the right of the citizens to smoke pot.  The guy had
>> >known what the penalty for preaching independence is before he went
>> >there to set up a political party, but he still went to challenge the
>> >law of China.  There is NOTHING the government of Canada can do to
>> >change the law in China.  Also, we as outsiders don't really know
>> >whether his activities in China were confined to the scope of just
>> >preaching.  He himself or people under him might have done something
>> >rather sinister, such as planting bombs in hospitals and schools, and
>> >it is foolish for any outsider to think that he should be spared.  The
>> >bleeding hearts may pledge to have his death sentence changed to life
>> >imprisonment, depending on the situation, but to suggest China is in
>> >violation of human rights by punishing him is sheer groundless.
>> >Bleeding hearts like you used to be sympathetic to the 'freedom
>> >fighters' in Chechyna until you saw what they did in Moscow.
>> >
>> >FP
>>
>> Canada can request a resolution at the UN but it won't.
>>
>> He was charged with murder in Kyrgustan but was still able to get status from
>> the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees and became a Canadian citizen.
>>
>> Perhaps China should break up into its component parts as the Soviet Union did
>> and stop its colonization of foreign countries.
>> 
>> dennis



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With newspapers publishing every few days ANOTHER STORY documenting
the criminality and brutality of the Edmonton police, no wonder
tourists are now avoiding Edmonton Canada, as though it was Baghdad
Iraq!!

There seem to be nothing but criminals on the Edmonton Police farce.


On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 04:26:06 GMT, gel  wrote:

>Unfortunaly.A song and dance that Edmonton is writing.
>    And you know a lot a people in Edmonton pretends to be happy like
>you Maxx. 
>  Edmonton is the example of everyman for themselves.
> You sure are.



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Local residents MUST be brain damaged, otherwise, why have they not
PROSECUTED their last 4 chiefs of police for their acts, instead of
giving them payoffs of up to HALF A MILLION DOLLARS?

On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 05:59:45 GMT, Brian K
 wrote:

>On 7/1/2006 8:32 PM  gel did the "monkey dance", then made these writings:
>> Edmonton ,Alberta is the only city in North America where houses only a
>> miles or two from three major refineries are sky rocketing in price.
>>    Three major refineries and a few chemicals plants are operating just
>> a few miles from downtown Edmonton.
>>   But the people overthere are considering themselves the happiest
>> people in Canada.
>>   Even if some house are only a mile away from the refineries people
>> live in it and see the value of their property increase.
>>   Basically no one in Edmonton realize that the refineries causes cancer
>> and other disease.
>>  Edmonton has been under the power of the same provincial government
>> aver 40 consecutives years.Only the communist country can claim such
>> timeline for a party in power.
>>   The oil refineries are operating just a mile away from the only river
>> in Edmonton.
>>  Asthma level are the highest in the country (Canada).It seems overthere
>> that the people are aphatics.Are they sold to the black gold?

>Houses near refineries are popular with Coneheads (see classic Saturday 
>Night Live).  They'll pay top dollar to "consume mass quantities" there 
>and do things with the Cone Ring. ;-)



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Why don't you send a formal complaint to abuse@shaw.ca, and be sure to
include ALL lines from the headers.

Perhaps they will then cut him off, for abuse of TOS.


On Sun, 2 Jul 2006 07:27:07 +0300, "Markku Grönroos"
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>perhaps you eskimo squaw get lost from rte.
>
>
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>> i am a old man looking for boy toys over the age of 18 (this is for 
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>> where i can get an boy toy over the age of 18? something nasty? this is 
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>> www.boytoyvideos.com
>> especially that guy on the right hand side with the moronic look on his
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>>
>>
>> -- 
>> "You gotta be smarter than your oponant."
>>
>> ---- Big Dumb Dave. (bigdumbdave29@yahoo.com)
>>
>> "Members of the 3rd right (Nazi/facist)?"
>>
>> ---- Scotty a.k.a. mr. third right. (cluelessscottyf44@canada.com)
>>
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>>         ( BAHHHH! KATO is an friend too  )
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If the stupid Oilers can pay Pronger $6 MILLION, and he still wants to
leave Deadmonton, then let the Oilers pay themselves for a new rink,
not taxpayers!!

If the Oilers can pay Roloson $11 MILLION, then they can afford to pay
for their own rink!!

After all, the Oilers is a BUSINESS, so let them survive, if at all,
by satisfying their actual customers.

If they don't, then let them go under, just like Woodwards, Eatons,
Debajis, and other businesses. With what they pay their thugs,
players, they are most definitely NOT A CHARITY, or even a city
service!!


On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:11:40 -0600, Harry Mazal 
wrote:

>With the taxpayers already being JEWED OUT OF $2.5 MILLION A YEAR TO SUBSIDIZE
>FOR THE NEXT 9 YEARS THESE OVERPAID HOCKEY THUGS, WHY SHOULD WE 
>GIVE THEM ONE BLOODY NICKEL MORE!!

>LET THEM GET THE MONEY NEEDED FROM THEIR SUCCKERS/SUPPORTERS, not taxpayers!

>On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 10:47:48 -0600, "TopPoster"  wrote:

>>> news:fle0k1l6hc3dsgh7lgkvilhdqf2st41637@4ax.com...

>>> > Saw the headline on the front page of today's Edmonton Journal.

>>> > Possibility that, ten years from now, the Oilers could be moving into a
>>> > new arena.

>>> > While they have nine years left to run in their lease on Rexall Place,
>>> > they could be looking for a bit of choice real estate to build a bigger
>>> > arena with seating for more Edmonton fans.  (I'm working on the
>>> > assumption here that the Edmonton Investors Group plans to keep the team
>>> > in Edmonton indefinietly.)

>>> > Assuming no unexpected downturn in the Alberta economy, it is reasonable
>>> > to expect that by that time Edmonton will be a much larger city than it
>>> > is today.

>>> > So where to put a new arena.  (I'm guessing sharx would prefer
>>> > Duggan--because then he'd be guaranteed a new LRT station close to sharx
>>> > manor.)

>>> Well, I have no objection to a new hockey arena AS LONG AS not one FUCKING
>>> cent of public funds goes into building it or maintaining it. The fucking
>>> owners group gets all the profit and the fucking owners group will get all
>>> the profit from the EVENTUAL sale of the team. Under the current
>>contracts,
>>> the owners group has no legal obligation to pay back one FUCKING cent of
>>> that TWO MILLION a year the city has been paying Northlands SO THAT THE
>>> FUCKING SPOILERS can use Rexall Place. Do I make myself abundantly FUCKING
>>> clear?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > --
>>> > John Fleming
>>> > Edmonton, Canada
>
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Deadmonton DOES NOT have a population of over 900,000!!
The city population is just over 500,000!!

The city is using the fictitious figure, to minimise the murder rate
in town!!

Don't forget, that the last 4 cop chiefs have all been canned in
disgrace!
Plus, the crooked cops still have not charged the serial killer of
over 100 women, which is making many think that perhaps it is 
one of the rogue cops doing all the extra murders!!

In fact the new chief this year is from Toronto. He was repeatedly
REFUSED the position of chief there. Mind you, as soon as he leaves
Toronto, Bill Blair the new chief, goes out and arrests 78 gang
members!!

Wonder why Mike Code did nothing about this while he was there as
deputy chief?

Apart from all the convictions against city cops for torture, with
more cops constantly being charged, and killing innocent victims like
last week!!

On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 22:27:54 GMT, "Chom Noamsky"  wrote:

>Edmonton records 37 homicides in 2005 while Toronto records 78.  Considering 
>the relative populations (est. 2004) of these two cities, the per 100,000 
>homicide rate works out to:

>  Edmonton - ( 37 / 947,311 ) * 10^5 = 3.9
>  Toronto - ( 78 / 2,518,772 ) * 10^5 = 3.1

>Oh what a shocker!  You're 25% more likely to become a victim of homicide in 
>Edmonton than Toronto.  What makes me laugh is the Alberta crackpot who 
>claims crime and homicide is somehow special to "Cherrana" and that the 
>problem is mysteriously attributable to "socialism."




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On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:02:41 -0500, Bill Gannon
 wrote:
>Tiberius Rex  wrote:

>> Valid question, so far not answered - since the 2 cops charged DID NOT
>> HAVE THE AUTHORITY for the crooked photoradar contract, while the then
>> police chief WAS RESPONSIBLE, WHY HASN'T THE CHIEF ALSO BEEN ARRESTED?

>> The more is exposed about criminal cops in Edmonton, the more the
>> stink goes right to the top!!

>I suppose that you're happy that they gave the job of Chief to one of the 
>runners up for the job of Police Chief in Toronto?

>It takes time to clear up shit.   Michael J. Boyd was well regarded and a 
>favourite to replace Julian Fantino in Toronto, but politics screw the 
>best.   You didn't get a moron, that's for sure.


Perhaps Boyd will finally clean house, and not only FIRE, but also
PROSECUTE all those crooked senior cops that have been infesting EPS
for the last while under the last few disgraced and fired  chiefs of
police!!

This past week the Toronto Police announced massive raids against
gangs, with 78 arrests.

Why was this not done while Boyd was Deputy Chief in Toronto?

Why is nothing being done about skyrocketing crime in Deadmonton, now
that Boyd is chief there?

Hmmmm........

Only then will the public start to have any confidence in the local
cops. - when the crooked seargeants and inspectors and the like go to
jail!


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If the stupid Oilers can pay Pronger $6 MILLION, and he still wants to
leave Deadmonton, then let the Oilers pay themselves for a new rink,
not taxpayers!!

If the Oilers can pay Roloson $11 MILLION, then they can afford to pay
for their own rink!!

After all, the Oilers is a BUSINESS, so let them survive, if at all,
by satisfying their actual customers.

If they don't, then let them go under, just like Woodwards, Eatons,
Debajis, and other businesses. With what they pay their thugs,
players, they are most definitely NOT A CHARITY, or even a city
service!!


On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:11:40 -0600, Harry Mazal 
wrote:

>With the taxpayers already being JEWED OUT OF $2.5 MILLION A YEAR TO SUBSIDIZE
>FOR THE NEXT 9 YEARS THESE OVERPAID HOCKEY THUGS, WHY SHOULD WE 
>GIVE THEM ONE BLOODY NICKEL MORE!!

>LET THEM GET THE MONEY NEEDED FROM THEIR SUCCKERS/SUPPORTERS, not taxpayers!

>On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 10:47:48 -0600, "TopPoster"  wrote:

>>> news:fle0k1l6hc3dsgh7lgkvilhdqf2st41637@4ax.com...

>>> > Saw the headline on the front page of today's Edmonton Journal.

>>> > Possibility that, ten years from now, the Oilers could be moving into a
>>> > new arena.

>>> > While they have nine years left to run in their lease on Rexall Place,
>>> > they could be looking for a bit of choice real estate to build a bigger
>>> > arena with seating for more Edmonton fans.  (I'm working on the
>>> > assumption here that the Edmonton Investors Group plans to keep the team
>>> > in Edmonton indefinietly.)

>>> > Assuming no unexpected downturn in the Alberta economy, it is reasonable
>>> > to expect that by that time Edmonton will be a much larger city than it
>>> > is today.

>>> > So where to put a new arena.  (I'm guessing sharx would prefer
>>> > Duggan--because then he'd be guaranteed a new LRT station close to sharx
>>> > manor.)

>>> Well, I have no objection to a new hockey arena AS LONG AS not one FUCKING
>>> cent of public funds goes into building it or maintaining it. The fucking
>>> owners group gets all the profit and the fucking owners group will get all
>>> the profit from the EVENTUAL sale of the team. Under the current
>>contracts,
>>> the owners group has no legal obligation to pay back one FUCKING cent of
>>> that TWO MILLION a year the city has been paying Northlands SO THAT THE
>>> FUCKING SPOILERS can use Rexall Place. Do I make myself abundantly FUCKING
>>> clear?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > --
>>> > John Fleming
>>> > Edmonton, Canada
>
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Thanks to idiots such as you, reposting the articles on internet.
Plus, all the national and international TV news networks
rebroadcasting the shocking pictures of Kristin Wilson being pounded
into the pavement by one of Edmonton's finest thugs!!


On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 17:28:40 GMT, "Maxx" 
wrote:
>"NotMyName"  wrote in message 
>news:djgea2pp9bfk4bvf98o1vdc2o13abas4rm@4ax.com...
>
>> Sort of like what the cops did to Rodney King!!
>
>And THAT made world wide news!
>
> > No wonder the Edmonton Gestapo are getting such an unsavoury worldwide
>> reputation!!
>
>And just where would this, so called, "worldwide" news be found?  Oh - there 
>it is, NOWHERE!!
>



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If those replying want to financially support the overpaid
millionaires, then let them.

But NO TAXPAYER MONEY for these overpriced thugs!!

On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 17:23:27 GMT, NotMyName
 wrote:

>If the stupid Oilers can pay Pronger $6 MILLION, and he still wants to
>leave Deadmonton, then let the Oilers pay themselves for a new rink,
>not taxpayers!!
>
>If the Oilers can pay Roloson $11 MILLION, then they can afford to pay
>for their own rink!!
>
>After all, the Oilers is a BUSINESS, so let them survive, if at all,
>by satisfying their actual customers.
>
>If they don't, then let them go under, just like Woodwards, Eatons,
>Debajis, and other businesses. With what they pay their thugs,
>players, they are most definitely NOT A CHARITY, or even a city
>service!!


>On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:11:40 -0600, Harry Mazal 
>wrote:
>
>>With the taxpayers already being JEWED OUT OF $2.5 MILLION A YEAR TO SUBSIDIZE
>>FOR THE NEXT 9 YEARS THESE OVERPAID HOCKEY THUGS, WHY SHOULD WE 
>>GIVE THEM ONE BLOODY NICKEL MORE!!
>
>>LET THEM GET THE MONEY NEEDED FROM THEIR SUCCKERS/SUPPORTERS, not taxpayers!
>
>>On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 10:47:48 -0600, "TopPoster"  wrote:
>
>>>> news:fle0k1l6hc3dsgh7lgkvilhdqf2st41637@4ax.com...
>
>>>> > Saw the headline on the front page of today's Edmonton Journal.
>
>>>> > Possibility that, ten years from now, the Oilers could be moving into a
>>>> > new arena.
>
>>>> > While they have nine years left to run in their lease on Rexall Place,
>>>> > they could be looking for a bit of choice real estate to build a bigger
>>>> > arena with seating for more Edmonton fans.  (I'm working on the
>>>> > assumption here that the Edmonton Investors Group plans to keep the team
>>>> > in Edmonton indefinietly.)
>
>>>> > Assuming no unexpected downturn in the Alberta economy, it is reasonable
>>>> > to expect that by that time Edmonton will be a much larger city than it
>>>> > is today.
>
>>>> > So where to put a new arena.  (I'm guessing sharx would prefer
>>>> > Duggan--because then he'd be guaranteed a new LRT station close to sharx
>>>> > manor.)
>
>>>> Well, I have no objection to a new hockey arena AS LONG AS not one FUCKING
>>>> cent of public funds goes into building it or maintaining it. The fucking
>>>> owners group gets all the profit and the fucking owners group will get all
>>>> the profit from the EVENTUAL sale of the team. Under the current
>>>contracts,
>>>> the owners group has no legal obligation to pay back one FUCKING cent of
>>>> that TWO MILLION a year the city has been paying Northlands SO THAT THE
>>>> FUCKING SPOILERS can use Rexall Place. Do I make myself abundantly FUCKING
>>>> clear?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > --
>>>> > John Fleming
>>>> > Edmonton, Canada
>>
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There are now over 100 unsolved cases of murders of young women.
People are starting to wonder, whether the serial killer may even be
another crooked cop!!

Week after week, more unsolved murders, with the crooked cops begging
for citizen assistance.

It seems that all Edmonton cops are good for, is photo-radar tickets,
and beating up innocent civilians, just like the Gestapo, KGB, and the
Rodney King crooked cops!

On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 21:51:12 GMT, gel  wrote:

>The Edmonton police always seems to hit or even kill the weakest of
>people.
> They killed two drunks, brutalized a woman and it seems they always
>charge defenseless people with non-sens charges.Never do we ear they go
>after real criminals.
> And always they phisacally hurt the defenseless citizens .



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It seems that Madd Maxx is just too plain stupid, to know how to use a
browser, and read the news articles for himself.


On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 00:01:46 GMT, "Maxx" 
wrote:
>"gel"  wrote in message 
>news:NJYpg.19$FO1.3984@news.uswest.net...
>> find it in The Edmonton Journal and The Edmonton Sun.
>
>If it were there, you could post a link.
>
>> Since you are one of those,then you do not care ,we know that already.
>>   Edmonton's mentality is everyman for themselves.
>> So Maxx you only care for yourself and you are ready to hurt for a
>> dollar.
>> You like it when Edmonton's cops hurts innocent people.
>>    Admit it Maxx.
>
>I don't like it, or dislike it.  How can I?  So far, these posts have been 
>just bullshit stories, with nothing backing them up. 
>



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On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 15:25:56 GMT, 10x@teluös.net wrote:
>On 2 Jul 2006 22:25:36 -0700, tyreenblaque@hotmail.com wrote:
>>spamhotmail@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> http://ca.news.yahoo.com/cbc/s/01072006/3/canada-costa-rican-family-deported-canada-day.html

>>> Costa Rican family deported on Canada Day

>>> A Toronto family has been deported to their native Costa Rica after
>>> exhausting all avenues to stay in Canada.

>>To be truthful the headline should have read "A Central American family
>>living illegally in Toronto has been deported to their native Costa
>>Rica after exhausting all avenues to stay in Canada".

>>What I can't figure out is why they deport these hardworking people and
>>leave behind all these low-down, no-good street trash foreign
>>criminals,who are out robbin',rapin',drug dealin',shootin' and a
>>killin'.

>It's the "Liberal Way"!
>take the ö out of 10x@teluös.net to email me

It seems the Costa Ricans were honest hard working people.
They were not ZYD criminals, dope dealers, AIDS spreaders, 
or any of the other criminal filth the Canadian government loves 
to import as so-called "refugees"



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On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 11:16:59 -0400, "Horgon"  wrote:
>"Dave Smith"  wrote in message
>news:44A93431.6F1D634B@sympatico.ca...
>> Frank Arthur wrote:
>>
>> > Will the police chief have the balls to charge his own people with CRIMINAL
>> > CHARGES, as his crooked cops did with Glenn Bahr?
>>
>> Frank, you poor pathetic loser. What exactly is it with you and your paranoia
>> about the Edmonton cops?
>>
>> No one cares.

>He's not the real Frank Arthur, he's mentally ill bigot William Grosvenor of
>Edmonton Alberta

And your proof for this claim is what?

By the way, why do you not comment on all the news stories,
documenting all the criminality of so many crooked Edmonton cops?

Surely you are not another one yourself?



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The Edmonton Journal for yesterday 29 June 2006 had a full page of
letters to the editor complaining about the police brutality!!

These comments are apart from concern by the taxpayers regarding the
supposed extra $2.2MILLION cost claimed by the new police chief.
Guess his undercover rioters did not come cheap?
Is this part of the reason Toronto refused repeatedly to give Mike
Boyd the position of Chief Cop?

Chief Boyd admits that there are at least 35 unresolved complaints
filed against his police in connection with police brutality over the
past week or so!


On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:17:52 -0600, Frank Arthur 
wrote:

>The local media had a great day publicising the torture of a young woman by
>another rogue Edmonton cop!!

>This Gestapo-like thug was photographed by several reporters, while he beat
>the handcuffed young lady and threw her face onto the pavement, breaking open
>her face!

>In another incident the same night, a 66 year old lawyer , Brian Fish, was
>tasered illegally, for taking pictures of police brutality. He is now laying
>charges against the cops involved.

>And the police chief seems to be doing nothing about all his crooked cops!
>Is this why Mike Boyd was refused the Chief's position in Toronto?

>Guess Chief Boyd was too busy wasting $2,200,000 of taxpayers money 
>setting up his thugs to torture civilians?

>Mind you, the inept cops still have not caught the serial killer of more than
>100 prostitutes, or even the killers of another 2 people this week!!


>On 2006-06-19 11:53:03 -0400, Boadicea  said:

>> The Edmonton Journal for today - 19 June 2006 - carries 2 pages full
>> of photos showing the Edmonton Gestapo TORTURING a woman, who was not 
>> resisting!!

>> Guess the crooked cops forgot that there are people taking
>> photographs?

>> And the jew mayor sees nothing wrong with police brutality.
>> Guess he belongs to the kill-a palestinian school of torture?

>> And they wonder why tourists around the world are starting to avoid
>> visiting UNSAFE Canada!!



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On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 15:25:56 GMT, 10x@teluös.net wrote:
>On 2 Jul 2006 22:25:36 -0700, tyreenblaque@hotmail.com wrote:
>>spamhotmail@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> http://ca.news.yahoo.com/cbc/s/01072006/3/canada-costa-rican-family-deported-canada-day.html

>>> Costa Rican family deported on Canada Day

>>> A Toronto family has been deported to their native Costa Rica after
>>> exhausting all avenues to stay in Canada.

>>To be truthful the headline should have read "A Central American family
>>living illegally in Toronto has been deported to their native Costa
>>Rica after exhausting all avenues to stay in Canada".

>>What I can't figure out is why they deport these hardworking people and
>>leave behind all these low-down, no-good street trash foreign
>>criminals,who are out robbin',rapin',drug dealin',shootin' and a
>>killin'.

>It's the "Liberal Way"!
>take the ö out of 10x@teluös.net to email me

It seems the Costa Ricans were honest hard working people.
They were not ZYD criminals, dope dealers, AIDS spreaders, 
or any of the other criminal filth the Canadian government loves 
to import as so-called "refugees"



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The Guardian Angels group, headed by their leader, arrived yesterday
in Edmonton, Canada.

They had been invited by a local citizen, who had become disgusted
with the rising crime, compounded by all the scandals involving
crooked police.

Even the previous police chief was fired for just cause.
Now, the new chief cop is annoyed that an outside source has been
called in to do some of his functions.

The artsie-fartsie mayor is also annoyed, since it gives bad
international publicity to Deadmonton.


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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:06:33 -0500, Tommy  wrote:

>The Numbers Decline, The Controversy Increases 
>Multiple Sources
>1-21-5

>It is past time for an international investigation conducted by truly
>impartial scientists, researchers and scholars into the reality of
>Auschwitz to properly and as accurately as possible bring history into
>accord with the facts. Peoples of all religions and persuasions have a
>right to such facts. So far, as the following data demonstrates, we are a
>long way from a consensus on the truth of what happened at Auschwitz in
>WWII. 
 
>9,000,000 
>  
>Source: Cited by the French documentary, Night and Fog, which has been shown
>to millions of school students worldwide. 
 
>8,000,000 
 
>Source: The French War Crime Research Office, Doc. 31, 1945. 
 
>7,000,000 
>  
>Source: Also cited by the French War Crime Research Office. 
>  
>6,000,000 
>  
>Source: Cited in the book Auschwitz Doctor by Miklos Nyiszli. It has since
>been proven that this book is a fraud and the "doctor" was never even at
>Auschwitz, even though the book is often cited by historians. 
>  
>5,000,000 to 5,500,000 
>  
>Source: Cited in 1945 at the trial of Auschwitz commander Rudolf Höss, based
>on his confession which was written in English, a language he never spoke. 
>  
>5,000,000 
>  
>Source: Cited on April 20, 1978 by the French daily, Le Monde. Also cited on
>January 23, 1995 by the German daily Die Welt. By September 1, 1989, Le
>Monde reduced the figure to 1,433,000. 
>  
>4,500,000 
>  
>Source: In 1945 this figure was cited by another witness at the
>aforementioned Höss trial. 
>  
>4,000,000 
>  
>Source: Cited by a Soviet document of May 6, 1945 and officially
>acknowledged by the Nuremberg War Crimes trial. This figure was also
>reported in The New York Times on April 18, 1945, although 50 years later
>on January 26, 1995, The New York Times and The Washington Post slashed the
>figure to 1,500,000 citing new findings by the Auschwitz Museum officials.
>In fact, the figure of 4,000,000 was later repudiated by the Auschwitz
>museum officials in 1990 but the figure of 1,500,000 victims was not
>formally announced by Polish President Lech Walesa until five years after
>the Auschwitz historians had first announced their discovery. 
>  
>3,500,000 
>  
>Source: Cited in the 1991 edition of the Dictionary of the French Language
>and by Claude Lanzmann in 1980 in his introduction to Filip Muller's book,
>Three Years in an Auschwitz Gas Chamber. 
>  
>3,000,000 
>  
>Source: Cited in a forced confession by Rudolf Höss, the Auschwitz commander
>who said this was the number of those who had died at Auschwitz prior to
>Dec. 1, 1943. Later cited in the June 7, 1993 issue of Heritage, the most
>widely read Jewish newspaper in California, even though three years
>previously the authorities at the Auschwitz museum had scaled down the
>figure to a minimum of 1,100,000 and a maximum of 1,500,000. (see below). 
>  
>2,500,000 
>  
>Source: Cited by Rudolf Vrba (an author of various fraudulent accounts of
>events he claims to have witnessed at Auschwitz) when he testified on July
>16, 1981 for the Israeli government's war crimes trial of former SS
>official Adolf Eichmann. 
>  
>2,000,000 
>  
>Source: Cited by Leon Poliakov (1951) writing in Harvest of Hate; Georges
>Wellers, writing in 1973 in The Yellow Star at the Time of Vichy; and Lucy
>Dawidowicz, writing in 1975 in The War Against the Jews. 
>  
>2,000,000 to 4,000,000 
>  
>Source: Cited by Yehuda Bauer in 1982 in his book, A History of the
>Holocaust. However, by 1989 Bauer revised his figure to 1,600,000. 
>  
>1,600,000 
>  
>Source: This is a 1989 revision by Yehuda Bauer of his earlier figure in
>1982 of 2,000,000 to 4,000,000, Bauer cited this new figure on September
>22, 1989 in The Jerusalem Post, at which time he wrote "The larger figures
>have been dismissed for years, except that it hasn't reached the public
>yet." 
>  
>1,500,000 
>  
>Source: In 1995 this was the number of Auschwitz deaths announced by Polish
>President Lech Walesa as determined by those at the Auschwitz museum. This
>number was inscribed on the monument at the Auschwitz camp at that time,
>thereby "replacing" the earlier 4,000,000 figure that had been formally
>repudiated (and withdrawn from the monument) five years earlier in 1990. At
>that time, on July 17, 1990 The Washington Times reprinted a brief article
>from The London Daily Telegraph citing the "new" figure of 1,500,000 that
>had been determined by the authorities at the Auschwitz museum. This new
>figure was reported two years later in a UPI report published in the New
>York Post on March 26, 1992. On January 26, 1995 both The Washington Post
>and The New York Times cited this 1,500,000 figure as the new "official"
>figure (citing the Auschwitz Museum authorities). 
>  
>1,471,595 
>  
>Source: This is a 1983 figure cited by Georges Wellers who (as noted
>previously) had determined, writing in 1973, that some 2,000,000 had died. 
>  
>1,433,000 
>  
>Source: This figure was cited on September 1, 1989 by the French daily, Le
>Monde, which earlier, on April 20, 1978, had cited the figure at 4,000,000. 
>  
>1,250,000 
>  
>Source: In the book, The Destruction of the European Jews, by Raul Hilberg
>(1985). 
>  
>1,100,000 to 1,500,000 
>  
>Source: Sources for this estimate are Yisrael Gutman and Michael Berenbaum
>in their 1984 book, Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camp. This estimate was
>later also cited by Walter Reich, former director of the U.S. Holocaust
>Memorial Museum, writing in The Washington Post on September 8, 1998. The
>upper figure of 1,500,000 is (the new) "official" figure as now inscribed
>at Auschwitz, with the earlier figure of 4,000,000 having been removed from
>the memorial at the site of the former concentration camp. 
>  
>1,000,000 
>  
>Source: Jean-Claude Pressac, writing in his 1989 book Auschwitz: Technique
>and Operation of the Gas Chambers. This is interesting since he wrote his
>book to repudiate so-called "Holocaust deniers" who were called that
>precisely because they had questioned the numbers of those who had died at
>Auschwitz. 
>  
>900,000 
>  
>Source: Reported on August 3, 1990 11, by Aufbau, a Jewish newspaper in New
>York. 
>  
>800,000 to 900,000 
>  
>Source: Reported by Gerald Reitlinger in his book, The Final Solution. 
>  
>775,000 to 800,000 
>  
>Source: Jean-Claude Pressac's revised figure, put forth in his 1993 book,
>The Crematoria of Auschwitz: The Mass Murder's Machinery, scaling down his
>earlier claim of 1,000,000 dead. 
>  
>630,000 to 710,000 
>  
>Source: In 1994 Pressac scaled his figure down somewhat further; this is the
>figure cited in the German language translation of Pressac's 1993 book
>originally published in French. Again, this is substantially less than
>Pressac's 1989 figure of 1,000,000. 
>  
>135,000 to 140,000 
>  
>Source: This is an estimate based on documents held by the International
>Tracing Service of the Red Cross. It is known that International Tracing
>Service has a complete set of registration documents. This is thought to
>include a complete set of roll-call data which includes twice daily tallies
>of those who died. Although the International Tracing Service of the Red
>Cross has such records, they have never officially published an accurate
>count of those who died, or even an accurate report as to exactly which
>documents they hold. However, totals from these records have been obtained
>by various interested parties. 
>  
>The estimate of 135,500 is roughly corroborated by the "Auschwitz death
>books." The death books themselves are wartime German camp records, which
>were captured by the Soviets towards the end of the war, and hidden in
>Soviet achieves, until released to the Red Cross in 1989. 
>  
>The death books consist of 46 volumes which document each death at Auschwitz
>(each death certificate consists of the deceased person's full name,
>profession and religion, date and place of birth, pre-Auschwitz residence,
>parents' names, time of death, and cause of death as determined by a camp
>physician). The records for the most important years, 1942 and 1943, are
>almost complete (there are also a few volumes for the year 1941, but none
>for the year 1944 or January 1945 (when Auschwitz was evacuated)). 
>  
>The Auschwitz death books contain the death certificates of some 69,000
>individuals, of whom about 30,000 were listed as Jews. You may view various
>entries in the Auschwitz Death Books by clicking on the following links to
>the Auschwitz museum: 
>  
>Using all available wartime records from the various camps it has been
>estimated that between 400,000 and 
>500,000 people died in the German concentration camp system (from all
>causes). 
>  
>The ever declining numbers of alleged dead at Auschwitz, are graphically
>illustrated by the plaques from the camp. 
>  
>The first is the plaque that was on display at the Auschwitz camp from 1948
>until 1989 and states "4 million" victims. 
>  
>The second plaque currently on display at Auschwitz has the dramatically
>reduced number of victims, now only 1.5 million. 
>  
>A casual reduction in the number of deaths by some 2.5 million. 
>  
>Deaths at Auschwitz drop by a stunning 2.5 million, but the legendary
>6,000,000 figure remains the same.
>http://www.rense.com/general62/auch.htm



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On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:27:17 GMT, dangdangdoodle3
 wrote:
>In article ,
> "NDP Rogue"  Socilaists.6768447746865.gov> wrote:

>> Former Vancouver police officer faces child pornography charges

>> VANCOUVER (CP) - A former police officer who once ran the department's
>> school-liaison program faces child pornography charges. John Dragani has
>> been charged with one count of possession of child pornography and one count
>> of accessing child pornography. Dragani, who was a sergeant, was suspended
>> without pay last year until he retired. Vancouver Constable Tim Fanning says
>> Crown counsel approved the charges after an aggressive police investigation.
>> Fanning says the allegations were embarrassing, but it's also an opportunity
>> to show when criminal conduct is alleged against an officer they take it
>> seriously. Dragani was arrested Monday at his Vancouver home and will face
>> the charges in Surrey provincial court.

>It would take 5 or 6 minutes to charge anyone else, but for this cop, it 
>took over a year and apparently he was allowed to retire. Plus he 
>appears to be minimally charged, where as someone else would have the 
>book thrown at them.

>Any cop caught breaking the law on duty should have automatically 
>doubled sentencing because they've also broken the public's trust which 
>they have agreed to keep. I'm sure people like Harper, who believe in 
>longer sentences to protect the public would agree with me, if he's not 
>a being a bloody hypocrite again.

Typical of the crooked police forces in Canada!
Since they could not completely cover it up, they allowed the crooked
cop to resign, so he could collect his pension and other benefits!!

Subject: Re: ZYD Friedman-KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTOR , from Synagogue!!
He Did No Jail Time!! Edmonton Man,Not Jew, Gets 3 1/2 Years!

On 18 Mar 2006 20:14:27 -0000, Ariadne wrote:
And Robert Welldumb could find nothing wrong with the detailed report,
so he complains about the TRUTH:

Welldumb could not explain why the crooked ZYD got no jail, while the
white man in Edmonton got 3 1/2 years in jail - FOR AN EVEN LESSER
OFFENCE!!

One must wonder, is Welldumb another kiddie porn distributor?

>Notice that Ted had listed at least 2 different Friedman
>JEW CHILD MOLESTERS!!

>Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former cantor of
>the synagogue in Halifax, Canada?

>He is the one caught as a major international distributor of KIDDIE PORN, from
>his synagogue. The Canadian cops allowed him to flee back to Boston, where the
>FBI picked him up!!

>But for a white man convicted of similar charges, the white guy in Edmonton gets 3 1/2 years in jail!!

One must question the preferential treatment given to the KIDDIE PORN
DISTRIBUTOR OPERATING FROM THE SYNAGOGUE!!

Why was he allowed to avoid jail, when a white man gets 3 1/2 years,
deservedly?

What did the crooked judge in that case receive for his generosity?

Looks like the Canadian public got JEWED, again!!
________________________________________
>On 31 Dec 2005 11:49:41 -0800, "Iamhere"  wrote:
>
>>If your piece is fact, what is the major deal about one Jewish pervert
>>vis a vis the thousands of priests who earned their prayer beads by
>>buggering little boys? I say you are a goyische hypocrite.
>>Iamhere
>>======================================================================================
>>Ted Dichtler wrote:
>>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:11:31 -0700, ariadne 
>>> wrote:
>
>>> Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former
>>> cantor of the synagogue in Halifax, Canada?
>
>>> He is the one caught as a major international DISTRIBUTOR of KIDDIE
>>> PORN, from his synagogue. The Canadian cops allowed him to flee back
>>> to Boston, where the FBI picked him up!!
>
>>> Story as reported by newspaper follows:
>>> kenmcvay  Feb 14 1999, 1:00 am
>>> Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish, soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.ukrainian,
>>> soc.culture.palestine
>>> From: kenmc...@in.vino.veritas.lies
>>> Date: 1999/02/14
>>> Subject: Re: NIZKOR Supports ZHID Kiddie Porn Distributor from Synangogue
>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 17:16:03 GMT, odess...@direct.ca wrote:
>>> >On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 01:55:53 -0500, jacob bekker 
>>> >wrote:
>
>>> >>If that was "A Polish school teacher at a Halifax church..." than it was O.K.
>>> >>J.B.
>>> >No, it would not be OK, no matter who is the pervert.
>
>>> >What is of concern, is whether the 3 NON-JEWS presently charged with
>>> >similar crimes, will now also be allowed to leave Canada, without
>>> >having to spend the normal 5 years in prison?
>
>>> >Or, is this generosity only available to damn JEW KIDDIE PORN
>>> >DISTRIBUTORS, especially if they are connected to a synagogue??
>
>>> >>> > wrote:
>
>>> ARREST SHOCKS SYNAGOGUE; TEACHER FLIES BACK TO U.S.
>>> By EVA HOARE and AMY PUGSLEY FRASER Staff Reporters
>
>>> A Hebrew school teacher and cantor at a Halifax synagogue, who downloaded
>>> hundreds of pornographic photographs of children from the Internet, was
>>> fined $2,200 in court Tuesday.
>
>>> The fine was paid and Suart David Friedman, a
>>> well-liked and respected member of the Beth Israel Synagogue, promptly left
>>> the country for his native United States.
>
>>> It's the first charge of its kind in Nova Scotia and justice officials
>>> hinted that Mr. Friedman's activities - downloading a personal fantasy
>>> collection of boys performing sexual and sadomasochistic acts - could be
>>> connected to an international child pornography ring.
>
>>> Mr. Friedman, 42, of South Park Street, Halifax, pleaded guilty to
>>> possessing child pornography from the Internet. When Canada Customs and
>>> police officers arrested him during a raid on his apartment Monday, the
>>> cantor was surfing the Net. Although his private cache contained photographs
>>> and videos - as well as gay and bondage magazines - the bulk of his
>>> collection was 223 computer-generated photos of child pornography stored on
>>> diskettes, on two computer hard drives, and on computer printouts.
>
>>> ``It's extremely disgusting,'' said Const. Gary Martin of the Halifax
>>> Regional Police Service, whose officers also conducted a search of Chebucto
>>> Freenet offices, Mr. Friedman's Internet provider. ``Ninety per cent of this
>>> material was obtained either directly or indirectly through the Internet.
>>> Some ... was directly downloaded from the Internet and some ... was obtained
>>> from different groups that are within the Internet,'' Const. Martin said.
>>> ``The pictures are very explicit. It covers just about every avenue of
>>> pornography that's out there.''
>
>>> Canada Customs' intelligence division started working the case last
>>> September and then brought in regional police, said Ed Osborne, customs'
>>> regional intelligence officer.
>
>>> Now officers - who'll spend hundreds of hours poring over the materials -
>>> want to know if any Nova Scotian children were depicted in the ``gruesome''
>>> photos and material seized. But they do not expect that will be the case.
>
>>> Parents of children who attended the Hebrew school, shocked by the arrest,
>>> planned to meet Tuesday night. ``As aware as people are that these things
>>> can and do happen, it's still a shock,'' said Cathy Fox, president of the
>>> Beth Israel Synagogue. Her three children - two sons and a daughter - were
>>> taught by Mr. Friedman at the synagogue's Hebrew school. ``It's a very
>>> difficult time.''
>
>>> The cantor - who leads the congregation in song - taught her 13- year-old
>>> son songs and chants that were part of his bar mitzvah ceremony last
>>> October, Mrs. Fox said.
>
>>> Some members will feel betrayed as a result of the charges. ``I think the
>>> elderly members of our congregation will be very hurt by this.'' Some are
>>> appalled while others expressed sympathy. ``I'm very saddened,'' said Robert
>>> Wolman, president of the synagogue's board of governors.
>
>>> Mr. Wolman said he and other board members heard about the case Monday night
>>> and Mr. Friedman was immediately dismissed.
>
>>> Wearing an olive-colored trenchcoat and a black yarmulke (skull cap) over
>>> his greying hair, a pale and visibly nervous Mr. Friedman was ushered into
>>> provincial court by two sheriff's deputies. Refusing even to look up at the
>>> judge, he stared resolutely at the floor while wringing his hands.
>
>>> ``This is the first (such) charge through our office,'' Crown attorney Frank
>>> Hoskins told Judge Hughes Randall. ``But it sends a message out to the
>>> public that if you're in possession of these images from your Internet and
>>> they're child pornography, you can be charged with a criminal offence and
>>> get a criminal record and a substantial fine,'' Mr. Hoskins said later.
>
>>> Article Segment 2 of 2
>>> (Ge
>>> (Get All
>
>>> Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada
>>> and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and
>>> electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said.
>
>>> Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and
>>> that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search
>>> conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records.
>
>>> Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated
>>> with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His
>>> intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown.
>
>>> The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will
>>> help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins=
>>> said.
>
>>> Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet
>>> specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at
>>> this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law
>>> enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.''
>
>>> Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution
>>> of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies
>>> are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined
>>> comment.
>
>>> Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at
>>> $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine
>>> ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also
>>> confiscated.
>
>>> After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston
>>> to be with his family.
>
>>> Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a
>>> maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they
>>> did say there was a plea bargain.
>
>>> Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived
>>> in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last
>>> posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead
>>> prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no
>>> prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said.
>
>>> ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox,
>>> who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through
>>> the media.
>>> ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking
>>> about how we will handle this.''
>
>>> Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as
>>> possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors.
>
>>> Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or
>>> partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related
>>> material.
>
>>> With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey
>>> The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997.
>
>>> Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to:
>>> http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org
>
>
>>> >On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:54:44 +0100, "mkarwan"  wrote:
>
>>> >>http://judicial-inc.biz/freidman_pedophiles_from_hell.htm
>
>>> >One Of Jewry's Most Explosive Incidences
>
>>> >Every now and then, there is a crime so ghastly, that even the Jewish media
>>> >control can't prevent the world from knowing. The crimes of the Friedmans were
>>> >so atrocious, that no string pulling was going to stop this investigation.
>
>>> >They were running a day care in the morning, and teaching computers to 8, 9,
>>> >and 10 yr olds in the afternoon.
>
>>> >They were found to have molested  hundreds of children, and taken extensive
>>> >video and photographic files on their molestations.
>
>>> It seems that much of the pornography and especially KIDDIE PORN
>>> rackets worldwide are run by the JEWS!

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


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1-713-266-7764

Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with
Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
Henry 
CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David
Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and
is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a
grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases,
just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially
late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

And also: George Firestone: "George" ,
and davejoll@ihug.co.nz.

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.




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Typical bureaucratic SCAM!!
The big shots KNEW they were OVERPAYING the teachers, but chose to do
nothing!
The principals KNEW they were OVER BUDGET, but chose to do nothing!
The teachers knew the Board could not afford them, but di not give a
damn.

And what about all the overpaid TRUSTEES? 
Why are they not being prosecuted, for NEGLIGENCE?

What is more alarming, the AUDITORS KNEW THERE WERE SERIOUS FINANCIAL
IRREGULARITIES, AND CHOSE TO COVER THEM UP FOR THOSE YEARS, 
INSTEAD OF EXPOSING THE PEOPLE WHO PAID THEM!! 
Or is it really pay-off to keep quiet?
Does CA still stand for CROOKED ACCOUNTANT?

It seems no one directly involved is being held responsible - why?


On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 23:35:57 GMT, Sew 
wrote:

>CARRIE McFADZEAN
>Examiner Staff 

>Edmonton Catholic School (ECS) trustees are changing the way they
>operate.
>
>Opening up lines of communication, taking back some of the
>superintendent’s power and playing a role on the budget committee are
>part of sweeping changes in the board’s governance policy.
>
>“For some time, the board has felt the governance model we’ve been
>using hasn’t been working that well,” says board chairperson Debbie
>Cavaliere.
>
>The changes, which were made during a board retreat in late May,
>follow a tumultuous time in the district.
>
>Earlier this year, a $10 million deficit, caused by accounting errors
>and overspending, was discovered. It will take the district five years
>to pay it back. At the end of February, superintendent Dale Ripley’s
>contract was terminated.
>
>While a new superintendent hasn’t been hired yet, Cavaliere says the
>timing was right to change the board’s governance policies.
>
>“It’s a dramatic shift in thinking and it’s time for the change,” she
>says.
>
>The board has been using the Carver model of governance since 1997.
>
>Under this model, used by many school boards in Alberta, trustees set
>policy direction, which is implemented by the superintendent who
>reports directly to the board.
>
>All district staff report only to the superintendent and have no
>contact with trustees.
>
>“Under that model, the board delegated a lot of responsibility,” says
>Cavaliere. 
>
>“It kept only those responsibilities that cannot be delegated like
>school closures, budget allocations and teacher transfers. Everything
>else was delegated to the superintendent.”
>
>Trustees were making important decisions based on information provided
>by the superintendent.
>
>Wanting a broader perspective and information base, trustees signaled
>a need for change.
>
>The new made-in-Edmonton-Catholic model gives more power to the
>trustees.
>
>For example, a trustee will now sit on the budget committee.
>
>Trustees will determine what responsibilities and authority district
>staff have.
>
>The superintendent will still have many of the same responsibilities,
>but trustees will now be able to ask senior staff questions directly.
>
>“It doesn’t put the onus on the superintendent to gather and relay the
>information,” says Cavaliere. “It’s much more effective and more
>efficient.”
>
>The new governance documents are being drafted and will come to a
>public meeting in the fall for a trustee vote.



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Post the news story to every appropriate newsgroup.
The hotel won't like the publicity, but if true, then you are
protected by the US Constitutuin!

Be sure to include the date of the news story, as well as page number
for reference.

Glad to see that some people are concerned about warning others.

Other warnings could include hotel names, where hotels infested with
bedbugs and cockroaches!

On 3 Jul 2006 10:00:27 -0700, "Takuro Ishii" 
wrote:

>I live in Virginia--near DC--and a hotel nearby has be