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Article: 72454 of alt.revisionism
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From: rjg@d31rz0.Stanford.EDU (Richard J. Green)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.bonehead.matt-giwer,alt.drunken.bastard
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In article <53bmrh$do7@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>,
Ken McVay OBC  wrote:

>"I am the giwer, koo koo ka chew...."

Shouldn't that be "I am the Giwer, joo, joo, ka joo..."

>
>For a more precise discussion, see
>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/giwer-10q.html
>
>Read the information the Giwer-troll fears:
>
>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/lies/lie-openly-admitted.html
>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/index-lies.html
>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/put-up-shut-up.html
>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/plagarized-01.html
>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/antisemite
>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/net-abuse/
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Anti-aircraft missiles don't bring down commercial 747's; people do.


From rjg@d31rz0.Stanford.EDU Tue Oct  8 08:34:47 PDT 1996
Article: 72463 of alt.revisionism
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From: rjg@d31rz0.Stanford.EDU (Richard J. Green)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: I hate kikes
Date: 7 Oct 1996 17:24:34 -0700
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In article ,
Jamie McCarthy  wrote:
>cacst9+@pitt.edu (Cecelia A Clancy) wrote:
>
>> I hate kikes.  I would be crazy not to hate them. 
>> 
>> Some Kraut in Pittsburgh   cacst9+@pitt.edu
>
>I might point out that Cecelia appears to have been under a lot of
>stress for the past few months in particular.  She appears to feel
>that everyone's going to accuse her of hating Jews anyway, so she
>might as well prove them right by going over the edge.
>
>She's not the same as the typical Jew-haters we find in this forum.
>
>(Sorry to talk about you like you're not in the room, Cecelia.)
>
>Posted/emailed.

My understanding is that this post is not authentic.

Posted/e-mailed to Jamie McCarthy

Regards,

Rich Green
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Richard J. Green                           Dept. of Chemistry
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Anti-aircraft missiles don't bring down commercial 747's; people do.


From rjg@d31rz0.Stanford.EDU Wed Oct  9 00:09:55 PDT 1996
Article: 72783 of alt.revisionism
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From: rjg@d31rz0.Stanford.EDU (Richard J. Green)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Israeli Arabs
Date: 8 Oct 1996 16:45:55 -0700
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In article <325A7040.16F0@pop.erols.com>,
Walt Hingerty   wrote:

>I dont have an agenda. But I am curious about something. What is the
>legal status of Palestinians who are born within the borders of Israel.
>Are they considered Israeli citizens? Are they allowed to vote or serve
>in the military? What is the status of Arabic Christians or Europaen
>Christians who are also born and live in Israel? I have heard that only
>persons of the Hebrew faith have full civil rights in Israel. Is this
>so? Thanks in advance. walt

Mr. Hingerty,

This discussion is really not relevent to alt.revisionism.  This
newsgroup is about the denial of the Holocaust.  To answer your question,
however, Israeli Arabs have the right to vote; there are Arab parties in
the Knesset (the Israeli Parliament).  Do they have full civil rights?
That may be a harder question.  Do African-Americans have full civil
rights in the USA?  According to the law they do, but reality is a
different story.

Regards,

Rich Green



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Richard J. Green                           Dept. of Chemistry
rjg@lyman.Stanford.EDU                     Stanford University     
http://www-leland.Stanford.EDU/~redcloud   Stanford, CA 94305-5080
Anti-aircraft missiles don't bring down commercial 747's; people do.


From rjg@d31rz0.Stanford.EDU Thu Oct 10 01:08:10 PDT 1996
Article: 72964 of alt.revisionism
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From: rjg@d31rz0.Stanford.EDU (Richard J. Green)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The Cracow forensic study:another sick joke
Date: 9 Oct 1996 20:22:33 -0700
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In article <325df1b5.1508130@199.0.216.204>,
tom moran  wrote:

>	I think your response needs no reply. I trust what is said and
>the record. 

Translation: Mr. Moran does not understand his own post and cannot
respond to the criticism I have posted.

>	Just one point to highlight. Looks like Mr.Green has let go fo
>the "background" level hypothesis.

On the contrary, I hypothesize the the revisionists cannot explain why
cyanides are present in the homicidal gas chambers at levels above the
background levels found in other dwellings (one of which, according to
Mr. Beaulieu, was subject to a fumigation).


>	And just one little challenge. 
>	Mr.Green. Would you send me a list of names of your class mates
>and professors so I can get a second opinion on your professional
>reply?

Mr. Moran will have to conduct his own research.

Regards,

Rich Green
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Anti-aircraft missiles don't bring down commercial 747's; people do.


From rjg@d31rz0.Stanford.EDU Mon Oct 14 14:08:28 PDT 1996
Article: 74175 of alt.revisionism
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From: rjg@d31rz0.Stanford.EDU (Richard J. Green)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The Cracow forensic study:another sick joke
Date: 14 Oct 1996 11:42:46 -0700
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In article <326500c9.2992973@199.0.216.204>,
tom moran  wrote:

>	Mr.Green, could you e-mail me the names of those in your
>department so I can inquire of them for a second opinion as to
>whatever you are saying here?

Mr. Moran,

You will have to do your own research.  The information is publically
available.  I don't know how you will ask for opinion as to "whatever" I
am saying as you don't seem capable of comprehending what I've said.

Regards,

Rich Green


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Richard J. Green                           Dept. of Chemistry
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http://www-leland.Stanford.EDU/~redcloud   Stanford, CA 94305-5080
"Remember the days of yore,
"Learn the lessons of the generation that came before you."
       -Deuteronomy 32:7


From rjg@d31rz0.Stanford.EDU Mon Oct 14 14:08:29 PDT 1996
Article: 74176 of alt.revisionism
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From: rjg@d31rz0.Stanford.EDU (Richard J. Green)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The Cracow forensic study:another sick joke
Date: 14 Oct 1996 11:46:11 -0700
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In article <53o5fs$89f@Vir.com>, Jean-Francois Beaulieu   wrote:
>rjg@d31rz0.Stanford.EDU (Richard J. Green) wrote:
>>
>>
>> On the contrary, I hypothesize the the revisionists cannot explain why
>> cyanides are present in the homicidal gas chambers at levels above the
>> background levels found in other dwellings (one of which, according to
>> Mr. Beaulieu, was subject to a fumigation).
>> 
>
>  I've already state something about this few days ago, but as usual
> your response was avoiding a simple,basical fact: The Auschwitz
> Chronicle, from Danuta Czech, was written with the use of the Auschwitz
> camp documentation. The autor stated that on the 9 of july 1943
> a general desinfection was done in the women's barracks and at
> the end of the month, it was men's barracks. Since a homicidal gassing
> can hardly leaves more cyanide traces than a delousing of another
> barrack, we may expect normally similar levels, wether the barrack
> was used for a homicidal gassing (which is false) weter it was
> simply desinfected. But the Cracow team found no cyhanide remains
> for the other barracks. They give no precision about the mateial
>they took from the other barracks, nor if they took it from inside
> or outside, nor if they took it deliberatelly from a piece of wood 
> rather than a plaster sample, nor ... there's many ways to play
> with such kind of datas to get biased results. How do I know that
> they biaised it? Because there's no reason, according to the events
> that took place in tha camp (see Danuta Czech) to expect no cyhanide
> compounds in a barracks that was subject to a delousing and traces
> in another where one homicidal gassing was allegedly done. That's
> simple: they thought that they could play with the datas as much as
> they wanted, but there's a proof of their dishonesty: the general
> delousing of the camp that is prooven.

What's proven is that whatever happened in the gas chamber must have
been different than what happened in the barracks since they found HCN
traces in the gas chambers, but not the barracks.  The fumigation was
not sufficient to leave behind measureble HCN traces.  The repeated use
of the chambers for homicide was.

Regards,

Rich Green

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Richard J. Green                           Dept. of Chemistry
rjg@lyman.Stanford.EDU                     Stanford University     
http://www-leland.Stanford.EDU/~redcloud   Stanford, CA 94305-5080
"Remember the days of yore,
"Learn the lessons of the generation that came before you."
       -Deuteronomy 32:7


From rjg@d31rz0.Stanford.EDU Mon Oct 21 14:28:03 PDT 1996
Article: 76208 of alt.revisionism
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From: rjg@d31rz0.Stanford.EDU (Richard J. Green)
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Subject: Re: The Cracow forensic study:another sick joke
Date: 21 Oct 1996 12:57:00 -0700
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In article <546m70$aja@Vir.com>, Jean-Francois Beaulieu   wrote:

>  You know perfectly that ONE homicidal gassing was allegedly
> done there in the legend. 

I don't know that, but if it's true what does it prove exactly?


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Richard J. Green                           Dept. of Chemistry
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"Remember the days of yore,
"Learn the lessons of the generation that came before you."
       -Deuteronomy 32:7


From rjg@d31rz0.Stanford.EDU Wed Oct 23 11:01:46 PDT 1996
Article: 76574 of alt.revisionism
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From: rjg@d31rz0.Stanford.EDU (Richard J. Green)
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Subject: Re: Haider's recent gains in Austria (was Re: Gov. terror in Austria)
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In article <54hjmr$ple@Networking.Stanford.EDU>,
Rich Graves  wrote:
>Below is Frank's (i.e., bs-org's) response to the _Economist_ piece. 

>|But the article is good, thanks Rich and I wonder when I get my 
>|confiscated equipment back.   

Castration is not reversable.
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Richard J. Green                           Dept. of Chemistry
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"Remember the days of yore,
"Learn the lessons of the generation that came before you."
       -Deuteronomy 32:7



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