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From bwhit@conterra.com Wed Jan  1 09:42:20 PST 1997
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From: Bob Whitaker 
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Subject: Re: Basically, they are everywhere
Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 11:51:30 -0500
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Alan J. Packer wrote:
> 
> <851955177snz@drmac.demon.co.uk>, "Duncan R. MacMillan"
>  thumped fist on table and bellowed
> >       Basically, we are everywhere,
> If by this you mean "we're all over the shop", you're right.
> 
> >The suppression of Chris Brand's book shows how powerful is this
>      ^^^^^^^^^^^
> >conspiracy of silence towards race and eugenics,
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Ah, trying to generate "martyrs to the cause" are we?  But how can
> suppression exist in such a Librul environment as the UK.  No siree, you
> won't find too many people trying to keep silent about racism and
> eugenics.  You're just a tad of paranoid.
> 
> >D.MacMillan
> 
> --
> Alan Packer.
> 
> N.B. If replying by mail, delete the x from my address.
>      i.e. news@alpaca.demon.co.uk



	As a matter of fact, Britain is now famous for its anti-speech laws. 
One judge was sentencing a man to prison for being Polticially
Incorrect, and used the oft-quoted line, "truth is no excuse."


From bwhit@conterra.com Wed Jan  1 11:01:21 PST 1997
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From: Bob Whitaker 
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Subject: Re: "Let 'em Sleep with the Fishes!" - Jesus Christ
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Bill Silverthorn wrote:
> 
> "Mark W. Keller"  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> >> 4.) Race mixing and equality are social progress.  They are
> >> good for you.
> >>
> >       Give me a break.  What's the matter with race mixing?  People are
> >people no matter how much or how little pigmentation they have in their
> >skin.  Some of the finest people I know are of a different race than I,
> >and some of the worst are of the same race.  If I love someone, it
> >doesn't matter what color or ethnic background they come from.  The
> >person, not the race is the important thing.  I'm actually offended that
> >you would attmpt to use a religious front to try and foist this satanic
> >idea upon people.  (And I'm sure my homosexual brothers and sisters are
> >offended at my statements above - I'm willing to listen.)  Nevertheless,
> >race should not be an issue in the church, society in general, or in
> >life.  (After all, our own Lord was semitic, not peaches and cream
> >white.)



	As I explain to each of you clones in turn, my problem with your
so-called
"mixing" is that you are only interested in doing it in white majority
countries.  You
demand massive third world immigration into EVERY white majority
country, and ONLY
into white majority countries.  You demand your so-called "race" mixing,
which is 
actually only *white* mixing, and you use public moneyt for busing and
"low-cost"(black)
housing to chase down any white escapees.
	Your so-called solution to the race problem is always only the final
solution to the white problem. 
	Don't worry, I'll keep repeating this until each and every one of you
clones has
heard it.






> 
> An overall wonderfully thought out response Mark .... Praise God for your
> attention to some of the details that you have given .... Happy New Year!
> 
> Bill


From bwhit@conterra.com Wed Jan  1 12:36:41 PST 1997
Article: 41694 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: Bob Whitaker 
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Subject: Re: Thanks my fellow Aryans...
Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 11:48:14 -0500
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David Salvador Flores wrote:
> 
> In article <32C44446.7CC@conterra.com>,
> Bob Whitaker   wrote:
> >(Delete spam-buster ([at]) to reply) wrote:
> >>
> 
> >       Proving once again that Politically Correct humor is an oxymoron.
> >       Coyuldn't you come up with just ONE funny one?
> 
> How about that poor skinhead boy who was trapped on an escalator for
> two days during a particularly lengthy blackout?
> 
> Pretty scary.
> 
> I hear he ate the crust on his underwear and the mold from inside his
> boots just to survive.
> 
> -Dave


	That on IS funny, but it was also an ethnic joke before you coopted it.


From bwhit@conterra.com Wed Jan  1 14:09:23 PST 1997
Article: 41699 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: Bob Whitaker 
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Subject: Re: Diverse America is and has always been working
Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 12:01:34 -0500
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Jim Walsh wrote:
> 


	
> There is no period of time in America's history (which I am defining as 1776
> to the present) when America wasn't a multi-cultural place. For those (not
> including me) who talk about "race", there is no period in American history
> when it was not a "multi-racial" society.
> 
> 
>      Love, Jim Walsh
> 
> [P.S. I sometimes correct spelling and
> grammar in quoted material without
> intending to modify the meaning.]



	As I explain to each of you clones in turn, my problem with your
so-called "mixing" is that you are only interested in doing it in white
majority countries.  You demand massive third world immigration into
EVERY white majority country, and ONLY into white majority countries. 
You demand your so-called "race" mixing, which is  actually only *white*
mixing, and you use public moneyt for busing and "low-cost"(black)
housing to chase down any white escapees.
	Your so-called solution to the race problem is always only the final
solution to the white problem. 
	Don't worry, I'll keep repeating this until each and every one of you
clones has
heard it.


From bwhit@conterra.com Wed Jan  1 14:09:26 PST 1997
Article: 41700 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: Bob Whitaker 
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Subject: Re: Why Diversity-America Can't Work (Was Re: Powderkeg USA)
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rcf@inetworld.net wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 29 Dec 1996 19:54:03 GMT, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
> wrote:
> 
> >gcf@panix.com (G*rd*n) wrote:
> >
> >>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith):
> >>| ...
> >>| Racial diversity of the sort we have in America today literally goes
> >>| against the inner will of each race.  Even the superficial bond of
> >>| having "one language" is eroding as masses of immigrants feel little
> >>| need to learn English and the "language gap" naturally widens as each
> >>| race naturally develops its own separate dialects.   ...
> >
> >>Oddly, in New York City, where Brian Smith evidently doesn't
> >>live, the subways and buses are full of signs offering
> >>courses and recorded lessons in English, in a variety of
> >>languages.
> >
> >>Okay, back to your favorite myths -- sorry to disturb you
> >>with a fact, but I couldn't resist the temptation.
> 
> >Millions of incoming immigrants have no compulsion to learn English.
> >Ethnic groups, such as Cubans in Miami or Asians in Chinatown, have no
> >need to learn English due to the existence of self-sufficient ethnic
> >enclaves.  And even if immigrants did learn English this confers but a
> >tenuous national bond, certainly not enough to unite peoples together
> >into anything resembling a cohesive nation, or to overcome the ethnic
> >hatreds that diversity inevitably creates.  Sorry.  Your wonderful
> >"diversity" is naught but a ill-mixed salad and is already starting to
> >rot.
> 
> A complete and total lie, Brian.  I know people who teach English as a
> 2nd language to immigrants and the classes always have waiting lists.
> 
> But then, you did manage to bail out of your lie by stating that only
> god-fearing Christian white people really belong in this country, now
> didn't you.  Tell me, when exactly did your family sneak into the
> U.S.?  Mine's been here since 1620.  If your's hasn't then your family
> is nothing more than a pack of immigrants to my way of thinking.  Why
> the hell should I listen to anything you have to say?
> 
> =Bob



	All nations are natiuojns pof immigrants.  That's a pretty silly-ass
argument for opening everybody's borders.
	As I explain to each of you clones in turn, my problem with your
so-called "mixing" is that you are only interested in doing it in white
majority countries.  You demand massive third world immigration into
EVERY white majority country, and ONLY into white majority countries. 
You demand your so-called "race" mixing, which is  actually only *white*
mixing, and you use public moneyt for busing and "low-cost"(black)
housing to chase down any white escapees.
	Your so-called solution to the race problem is always only the final
solution to the white problem. 
	Don't worry, I'll keep repeating this until each and every one of you
clones has
heard it.
	By the way, when I was doing press conferences for Boston Southies
fighting busing, I was astonished by how great they thought it was that
my ancestors first got here in 1609.  They were happy to have me on
their side, because it turns out that you 1620 clowns have been holding
that over their heads for over a century.
	Nobody's impressed.
	You got your own little bigotries going onup there, haven't you?


From bwhit@conterra.com Wed Jan  1 20:38:49 PST 1997
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From: Bob Whitaker 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.equality,alt.politics,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.immigration
Subject: Re: Diversity is a fact of life; get used to it
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smaceach@polar.bowdoin.edu wrote:
> 
> tavish@phoenix.net wrote:
> >
> > If our society is
> > structured in such a way that it oppresses the black man to the point of
> > murder and committing crime then how does one explain the mass killings
> > in Africa where the ol "wiley white devil" is not entrenched?
> 
> Same reason as you've had mass killings in Nazi Germany, the Soviet
> Union, Communist China and etc this century -- fucked-up people, fucked-
> up communities. Point is that there's nothing especially special about
> Africa in this... and if you can explain disorder in Russia by appealing
> to the ill effects of communism, then why can't you explain disorder
> in Africa by appealing to the ill effects of colonialism and
> enslavement?
> 
> And if you think that there's anything special in the behaviour of a
> black underclass in the United States at the end of the twentieth
> century, I suggest that you take a look at the perorations about the
> Irish/Italians/Jews at the end of the nineteenth.
> 
> Scott
> ____________________
> 
> Scott MacEachern
> Department of Sociology and Anthropology
> Bowdoin College
> Brunswick, ME 04011
> -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
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	This guy makes his living pushing this crap.


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From: Bob Whitaker 
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Subject: Re: Diversity is a fact of life; get used to it
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 14:15:24 -0500
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smaceach@polar.bowdoin.edu wrote:
> 
> tavish@phoenix.net wrote:
> >
> > If our society is
> > structured in such a way that it oppresses the black man to the point of
> > murder and committing crime then how does one explain the mass killings
> > in Africa where the ol "wiley white devil" is not entrenched?
> 
> Same reason as you've had mass killings in Nazi Germany, the Soviet
> Union, Communist China and etc this century -- fucked-up people, fucked-
> up communities. Point is that there's nothing especially special about
> Africa in this... and if you can explain disorder in Russia by appealing
> to the ill effects of communism, then why can't you explain disorder
> in Africa by appealing to the ill effects of colonialism and
> enslavement?
> 
> And if you think that there's anything special in the behaviour of a
> black underclass in the United States at the end of the twentieth
> century, I suggest that you take a look at the perorations about the
> Irish/Italians/Jews at the end of the nineteenth.
> 
> Scott
> ____________________
> 
> Scott MacEachern
> Department of Sociology and Anthropology
> Bowdoin College
> Brunswick, ME 04011
> -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
>       http://www.dejanews.com/     Search, Read, Post to Usenet


	I really have tio admire the training you academic bureaucrats get. 
You don't even see anything that isn't Politically Correct.
	I said that the ONLY exceptions to rich white countries you can find
were produced by those so-called "intellectual" Communist theories.
        That word ONLY is important, so you didn't see it.
	Haiti, a republic for two centuries, is a disaster, all of black
Africa, whenever colonial(or, as in the case of Ethiopia and Liberia,
independent), is a poltiical and economic basket case.
	But, of course, you have some of those good old Mommy Professor
theories to take care of that, don't you? 
	And the one thing I keep repeating that none of you ever challenge, I
say again:  Nothing Mommy Professor says ever WORKS. 
	The human cost of your theorizing has been incalculable, but that
doesn't cause you a second's hesitation in making your living pushing
some more.


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From: Bob Whitaker 
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Subject: Re: The Antiwhite Movement
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Lester John Ness wrote:
> 
>         There is no anti-white movement.
> 
> --
> Lester Ness     lness@indiana.edu


	The Mafia is a myth.


From bwhit@conterra.com Thu Jan  2 14:50:06 PST 1997
Article: 41871 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: Bob Whitaker 
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Subject: Re: The Antiwhite Movement
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Lester John Ness wrote:
> 
> Dave Brickner (davebrik@mail.bright.net) wrote:
> : The natural altruism of the white race
> 
>         I've been studying history for 25 years, and have seen no evidence
> that the 'white race' is more altruistic than any other group.  Indeed, I
> see no evidence that race exists outside some peoples' imaginations.
> 
> --
> Lester Ness     lness@indiana.edu


	This is one of the two basic excuses for genocide against the white
race: 1) the white race doesn't exist and 2) the white race deserves it.

	In this case, Ness is saying that he has a perfect right to demand
massive third world immigration into ALL white majority countries, and
ONLY into white majority countries(you ever hear any of these antiwhites
screaming for immigration-integration into Japan?) becuase whites have
given him no speacial EXCUSE to exist.


From bwhit@conterra.com Thu Jan  2 14:50:08 PST 1997
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Subject: Re: The Antiwhite Movement
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The Crow wrote:
> 
> Paul Lorion (plorion@aei.ca) wrote:
> : Aryan wrote:
> : >
> : > Diversity needs to be done away with. And it will. Because it's us or you.
> : > And, man, guess what? It's us. Sorry.
> : YOU ARE JUST CRAZY SMALL HEAD!
> :       People as you cause trouble in our poor world!
> : Where are you from small head?
> : Is there any body in you community who can take care of you?
> 
>         Wow. With responses like this, you're just proving his point -
>   'specially 'bout that intelligence thing...Yikes...
> 
>         Small head? Is this some kind of reference to genitalia? Inferring,
>    perhaps, that the age old myth about whites having smaller pee-pees is
>    true? Sorry, it's not true - ours just shrink up more when they're soft -
>    but we can sport a wide and thick one on par with the biggest of the African
>    brothers out there.
> 
>          Anyway, if you choose to use the english language as your weapon,
>    you better get some sparring practice in first. Your response just made
>    you look like an idiot, in light of what you were railing against.
> 
> : Paul
> 
> - The Crow



	Another anti-white white heard from.


From bwhit@conterra.com Fri Jan  3 13:53:15 PST 1997
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Subject: Re: Why Diversity-America Can't Work (Was Re: Powderkeg USA)
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David Nieporent wrote:
> 
> In article <5a04s7$928$3@news01a.micron.net>,
> Brian Smith  wrote:
> >Alan Miles  wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >>3)  A diverse America, a 220 year history culminating in today's
> >>successful dynamic society, is unworkable because at various times
> >>various hate crimes have been committed.
> 
> >America was not multiracial in the contemporary sense until relatively
> >recently -- perhaps 40 years ago at most.  Before that it was
> >understood that America was a White nation, founded by Whites and for
> >Whites.  The more "diverse" America becomes, the more friction and
> >chaos that is created, the more animosity that is engendered, the more
> >expensive and complex become the problems of "diversity," the more
> >crime-filled it becomes, the less there is in common, the more
> >developed and entrenched each separate culture-nation becomes.  In
> >short, the more "diverse" a society is the more dysfunctional it
> >becomes.
> 
> Absolutely false; the idea that "whites" even existed is a recent
> phenomenon.  Until recently, people considered themselves to be Irish,
> Italians, Poles, Jews, WASPs, Greeks, etc.
> 
> [snip]
> --
> David M. Nieporent         Deserves it?  I daresay he does.  Many who live
> Nieporen@pluto.njcc.com    deserve death.  And some who die deserve life. Can
> Hampshire/Plainsboro, NJ   you give it to them?  Then be not so quick to give
> FIRE PAT GILLICK!!!!       the other.  For not even the wise can see all ends.



		As I explain to each of you clones in turn, my problem with your
so-called "antiracism" is that it is directed AGAINST the whtie race. 
You
demand massive third world immigration into EVERY white majority
country, and ONLY
into white majority countries.  You demand your so-called "race" mixing,
which is 
actually only *white* mixing, and you use public money for busing and
"low-cost"(black)
housing to chase down any white escapees.
	Your so-called solution to the race problem is always only the final
solution to the white problem. 
	Don't worry, I'll keep repeating this until each and every one of you
clones has
heard it.


From bwhit@conterra.com Fri Jan  3 15:01:42 PST 1997
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Gary Murawski wrote:
> 
> rcf@inetworld.net wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 29 Dec 1996 19:54:03 GMT, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
> > wrote:
> >
> > >gcf@panix.com (G*rd*n) wrote:
> > >
> > >>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith):
> > >>| ...
> > >>| Racial diversity of the sort we have in America today literally goes
> > >>| against the inner will of each race.  Even the superficial bond of
> > >>| having "one language" is eroding as masses of immigrants feel little
> > >>| need to learn English and the "language gap" naturally widens as each
> > >>| race naturally develops its own separate dialects.   ...
> > >
> > >>Oddly, in New York City, where Brian Smith evidently doesn't
> > >>live, the subways and buses are full of signs offering
> > >>courses and recorded lessons in English, in a variety of
> > >>languages.
> > >
> > >>Okay, back to your favorite myths -- sorry to disturb you
> > >>with a fact, but I couldn't resist the temptation.
> >
> > >Millions of incoming immigrants have no compulsion to learn English.
> > >Ethnic groups, such as Cubans in Miami or Asians in Chinatown, have no
> > >need to learn English due to the existence of self-sufficient ethnic
> > >enclaves.  And even if immigrants did learn English this confers but a
> > >tenuous national bond, certainly not enough to unite peoples together
> > >into anything resembling a cohesive nation, or to overcome the ethnic
> > >hatreds that diversity inevitably creates.  Sorry.  Your wonderful
> > >"diversity" is naught but a ill-mixed salad and is already starting to
> > >rot.
> >
> > A complete and total lie, Brian.  I know people who teach English as a
> > 2nd language to immigrants and the classes always have waiting lists.
> >
> > But then, you did manage to bail out of your lie by stating that only
> > god-fearing Christian white people really belong in this country, now
> > didn't you.  Tell me, when exactly did your family sneak into the
> > U.S.?  Mine's been here since 1620.  If your's hasn't then your family
> > is nothing more than a pack of immigrants to my way of thinking.  Why
> > the hell should I listen to anything you have to say?
> >
> > =Bob
> >
> >
> >Honestly, if we were all to be TRUE americans then we should be speaking the original language of the land; Creek, Sioux, Cherokee, Pima....take your pick!



	Every nation has always been a nation of immigrants.  You are saying
that means your "true American" has to be for totally open borders.
	I know a lot of people say that, but it sure is stupid.


From bwhit@conterra.com Sat Jan  4 10:20:15 PST 1997
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James E. Walsh wrote:
> 
> Dave Brickner (davebrik@mail.bright.net) wrote:
> 
> : I agree that there is not necessarily an "anti-white" movement
> 
> There are no races: no "Whites", no "Blacks" no "Greens". If you
> disagree then you have a simple task -- tell me the gene or combination
> of genes which always exist in "Whites".
> 
> Do you remember when certain Southern States had laws which talked about
> a drop of "Black blood"? When science advanced and it was discovered that
> all members of all so-called races had more or less the same blood types,
> the racists were forced to give up this language. You never hear of
> "White blood" any more, except from the truly ignorant. But, the racists
> didn't really learn from the scientists, they just kept their prejudices
> and changed their words.
> 
> There is no "White/Black/Green blood", no "White/Black/Green" genes, no
> "White/Black/Green" race (or any other race). Sorry to rain on your
> parade.
> 
> --
>         Love, Jim
> [P.S. In Newsgroups, I often correct English mistakes in
> quoted material without any intention of changing the meaning.]


	Then how is it that you "antiracists" manage tpo demand that ALL white
majority countries and ONLy white majority countries become
multiracial?  You define the white race perfectly when it comes to
picking your serious targets.


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Philip Kasiecki wrote:
> 
> In article <32D65962.DF1@phoenix.net>,
> Doc Tavish (tavish@phoenix.net) wrote:
> : Jim Walsh wrote:
> : > In article <32D40396.765F@phoenix.net>,
> : > Doc Tavish  wrote:
> : > ::The "screw up" comment is a word play. AIDS is primarily a disease
> : > ::that is maintained (kept alive in the public sector) and spread by
> : > ::the homosexual community.
> 
> : > Factually false. Either you are a homo-phobe, or mis-informed, or
> : > both.
> 
> : I am neither and I have always noted that peter puffing knee jerk
> : liberals always have the same stock answer- you're a homophobe or
> : misinformed if YOU don't suck up to homos.
> 
>     Bullshit.  You're both a homophobe and misinformed.  In just about
> *every* discussion I've been privy to on teenage sexual activity in the
> last few years, I've heard that late teen- early 20s *heterosexuals* are
> among the people who are getting HIV the most these days.  



	And I have read more than once ein the mainline press--which helped to
push this lie for so long -- that this is the frist time Political
Correctness has in fact been and provably responsible for deaths.
	Old Kasiecki-Brown falls for EVERYTHING, doesn't he?




AIDS is no
> longer just a "gay disease"- saying it is is not only misinformed (it's
> not homophobic, but you are a homophobe), but in doing so, you sound
> like one of those naive teenagers who act like being sexually promiscuous
> has no health risks whatsoever.
> 
> : The facts speak for themselves o' ally of homosexuals.
> : Jim wipe off that heavy viscous liquid dripping from the side of your
> : mouth- you're embarrassing me!
> 
>     You are one sick person.  Actually, to call someone as stupid as you
> are a human being at all is an insult to others, when what you are is a
> jackass.
> 
> : The following figures are taken from The World Almanac and Book
> : of Facts 1993; with the Almanac citing its source as: Federal
> : Centers For Disease Control (cumulative 6/30/92)
> :                               AIDS in the U.S.
> : Cases
> : Total reported:       230,179
> : Adults/adolescents:   226,281
> : Children:               3,898
> :                Mode of Transmission
> : Male
> : Sex with men (homosexual)   65%
> : Injection drug abuse         9%
> : Sex with men & inject drugs  7%
> : Hemophilia                   1% {this is Ryan White}
> : Heterosexual contact         3%
> : Blood transfusion            1%
> : Other/unknown                4%
> : Female
> : Injection drug abuse        50%
> : Heterosexual contact        35% {with bisexual men}
> : Blood transfusion            7%
> : Other/unknown                8%
> :              AIDS Deaths and New  Cases
> : In the U.S. Deaths in 1992:    22,660
> : In the U.S. New Cases in 1992: 45,472     Source: National
> : Center for Health Statistics, U.S. Dept. of Health and Human
> : Services. (The World Almanac and Book of Facts 1994)
> 
> : These are the facts that Jim and the rest of his ill ilk
> : wish to deny.
> 
>     Bullshit.
> 
> : Look at which group has the highest incidence of AIDS and you will
> : have to agree that they are the modern Typhoid Fairies (I mean Marys).
> : The homosexual community is as much the vector of AIDS as rats were at
> : on time for the Bubonic Plague. Let them hiss and spit and dribble
> : their jism from their foul odious mouths but the statistics do not lie.
> 
>     No, but again, you're forgetting the more recent times, idiot- these
> are cumulative statistics.  If you compared the same statistics from a
> few years ago, you'd see a different story.  AIDS is *not* just a gay
> disease- tell that to the many teenagers and early twentysomethings who
> are HIV-positive and have only been with members of the opposite sex.
> 
> : If AIDS wasn't a homo disease then why is ACT-UP so "oral"
> : about it! Isolate and quarantine and close down the bath houses-
> : these steps will reduce AIDS not passing out condoms in schools!
> 
>     I challenge you to prove that.  Although, I do agree with the last
> point- if anything, what I feel teenagers today should be encouraged to
> do is remain abstinent until they've found that special someone that
> they want to marry.
> 
> : Quote me fully Nizkook homosexuals and homosexual allies. Why is
> : Homosexuality and Commujism (I mean Communism) seem to go tip toeing
> : hand and hand?  You're judged by the company you keep you know!
> 
>     Only by bigots who throw blankets on people, like you.
> 
>         Phil Kasiecki
> 
> --
> Philip T. Kasiecki
> Electrical and Computer Engineering
> Northeastern University Class of 1999
> 
> "The most dangerous kind of ignorance is the ignorance
> of the educated."   -Thomas Sowell, "Race and Culture"


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Chris Faatz wrote:
> 
> Roger Hughes (ipm@usaor.net) wrote:
> [clip]
> 
> : They kind of world they seek is one where any criticism of "God's Chosen
> : People" is forbidden by law; the Jews could not be contradicted in any
> : area; "anti-Semitism" would be a capital crime; whatever the Jews say is the
> : "truth." If that's the kind of world you want, then, by all means, support
> : Nizkor, the ADL, and the rest of the anti-American, Jewish Establishment.
> 
> I think, with all due respect, that you're a bit mixed up.
> 
> I seek a world where any criticism of God's chosen people--all of us, the
> whole shebang, white, black, red, yellow, green, and Doc, Quaker,
> Buddhist, Jew, and atheist--is outside the accepted perameters of
> discussion and civility. It's called "human decency."


	As I explain to each of you PC clones in turn, my problem with your
so-called "color blindness" is that, in terms of real world results, you
are only interested in doing it in white majority countries.  You demand
massive third world immigration into EVERY white majority country, and
ONLY into white majority countries.  You demand your so-called "race"
mixing, which is actually only *white* mixing, and you use public moneyt
for busing and "low-cost"(black) housing to chase down any white
escapees.
	Your program is to have an Asian Asia, an African Africa, and to make
every
present white majority country into a brown sludge.
	Your so-called solution to the race problem is always only the final
solution to the white problem.    What you call being "anti-racist" is
actually just anti-white.
	




> 
> The other allegations are unfounded, outside of the typo-ridden textbooks
> of the white-gnat "movement."
> 
> Provide me some sources, clown, that don't come from the likes of Bob
> Mathews or "Dr." Pierce.


From bwhit@conterra.com Sat Jan 11 16:44:11 PST 1997
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From: Bob Whitaker 
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.white-power,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.jewish,alt.politics.nationalism.white
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Andrew Mathis wrote:
> 
> talisman@synapticon.com  wrote:
> 
> >I am a student in the Netherlands, and we are buried under
> >foreign mud-race filth.  I do not know if the stink of their
> >bodies or the screams of their voices is worse.  Adolf Hitler
> >was right, and I only wish he had been allowed to finish his
> >work.
> 
> He'd have killed your ass eventually.
> 
> >We in the Netherlands face Kike laws to suppress free speech.  We
> >are prevented from discussing the holocaust lie, and other Jew
> >lies and schemes.  We must fight them!  I would appreciate any information
> >you could send me;  flyers, cartoons, anything.  If you need money first,
> >send me mail and tell me how much.
> 
> Who passes these Kike laws?  There aren't any Jews left in Holland.
> 
> >My account is at University, so I must not get e-mail there;  a
> >friend is posting this for me.  Please just send the information
> >by regular mail.
> 
> Coward.
> 
> >Thank you.
> 
> >Evert jan Benz
> >nijensteinheerd 58
> >9736 TD  Groningen
> >Nethderlands
> 
> We'll just turn this one over to the Dutch consulate...



	What a goddamned animal you are!   Your  kind always reports people to
the authorities.






> 
> =================================================================
> 
> Shining a flashlight on the ugly underside of the 'net: http://www.webmagazine.com/Features/Hate/intro.html
> 
> NOT Alfred: http://www.nj.com/maxwells/archive/hitchcock.html
> 
> The Homepage that made Milwaukee famous: http://pages.nyu.edu/~aem0608
> 
> Interviewer: Well, then, can you destroy the Earth?
> The Tick: Egads, I hope not!  That's where I keep all my stuff!


From bwhit@conterra.com Sat Jan 11 16:52:56 PST 1997
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From: Bob Whitaker 
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Subject: Re: The Right Wing Undisguised
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Charles Don Hall wrote:
> 
> In article ,
> Troy Varange  wrote:
> >> >>> Jenn Starkmann, Nifty Leftist Marxist Maoist Commie Pinko
> >> >>> Wascally Joosh Really Cute For A Tea Drinker said:
> >> >
> >> >Ridiculous, Nizkor and close supporters are rightists and have
> >> >always been no matter what their previous affiliations were.
> >>
> >> >Nizkorites believe that the rich are genetically superior to
> >> >to the poor,
> >>
> >> Well, first of all, just because you did bring it up, I'd
> >> like you to point out a single occasion where a "Nizkorite"
> >> (whatever that may be) has stated that the rich are genetically
> >> superior to the poor, in any way, shape or form.
> >
> >Consistent statements and insinuations that ideologogical
> >opponents who are not of means are poor because of inferior
> >genes, a reactionary dogma.
> 
> I think you're misreading what people are saying.
> 
> The argument is that our ideological opponents are poor because
> their ideology causes them to engage in self-destructive
> behavior.
> 
> Not even the most die-hard genetic determinist would claim that
> ideology is somehow encoded in the genes. Self-destructive
> ideologies are usually the result of improper education, combined
> with a stubborn unwillingness to engage in self-examination.
> 
> The classic example is the racist who refuses to show the most
> basic courtesy to his fellow humans unless they meet his arbitrary
> standards of perfection. Such a person is unlikely to be able
> to find gainful employment...because what business can survive,
> with employees who intentionally drive away potential customers?
> 
> A sensible racist would quickly realize the error of his ways
> and adjust his behavior...he might continue to secretly hate
> people, but he'd attempt to conceal this hatred,





	This calling every disagreement with Nizkor "Hate" is the usual cheap
shot of the self-righteous Poltically Correct fanatic.
	As I explain to each of you PC clones in turn, my problem with your
so-called
"color blindness" is that, in terms of real world results, you are only
interested in doing it in white majority countries.  You demand massive
third world immigration into EVERY white majority country, and ONLY into
white majority countries.  You demand your so-called "race" mixing,
which is actually only *white* mixing, and you use public money for
busing and "low-cost"(black) housing to chase down any white escapees.
	Your program is to have an Asian Asia, an African Africa, and to make
every
present white majority country into a brown sludge.
	Your so-called solution to the race problem is always only the final
solution to the white problem.    What you call being "anti-racist" is
actually just anti-white.
	


 at least on
> the job. But, if he weren't sensible, he might very well project
> his flaws onto others and blame "Affirmative Action" or the
> "Liberal Media" for his unemployability.
> 
> (If you'd like to watch this happening in a grossly exaggerated,
> farcical kind of way, then pop over to alt.revisionism and
> read some of Matt Giwer's articles. That poor fellow has given
> up on finding a job, and is now just trying to find an Internet
> Service Provider that won't kick him off for violating their
> terms-of-service agreement.)
> 
> Anyway, if you think you've seen someone from Nizkor claiming
> that poverty is genetically determined, then post the article
> in question, and I'll try to help you understand the author's
> actual intent.
> --
> 
> ===========================================================
> Charles Don Hall, Licensed Philosopher  (chall@eco.twg.com)
> ===========================================================


From bwhit@conterra.com Sat Jan 11 22:58:57 PST 1997
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From: Bob Whitaker 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white
Subject: Re: Alien Citizens as Described by Theodore Roosevelt aka "Rough Rider"
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ali@creative.net wrote:
> 
> In <32D445AA.2CEA@phoenix.net>, Doc Tavish  writes:
> (Really big snip of maunderings of yet another racist dead white man)
> 
> Mr. Tavish,
> 
>         Perhaps you don't understand that the US is a great country in spite of men
> like the infamous mr. T.Roosevelt, not because of them.  Pride in self, origin, and
> culture will do more for the healing of America than all of the hate filled ethno-
> centric blather put together.
> 
>         Cope with the facts mr. Tavish, America is a multi-cultural country, and
> will remain so despite the best efforts of hatemongers. 


		As I explain to each of you clones in turn, my problem with your
so-called "color blindness" is that, in terms of real world results, you
are only interested in doing it in white majority countries.  You demand
massive third world immigration into EVERY white majority country, and
ONLY into white majority countries.  You demand your so-called "race"
mixing, which is actually only *white* mixing, and you use public moneyt
for busing and "low-cost"(black) housing to chase down any white
escapees.
	Your program is to have an Asian Asia, an African Africa, and to make
every
present white majority country into a brown sludge.
	Your so-called solution to the race problem is always only the final
solution to the white problem.    What you call being "anti-racist" is
actually just anti-white.
	


 The total of our several
> origins together is far greater than the mere sum of our parts.   In truth, you and
> the whites only ilk you seem to appeal to have the same choice of any organism
> faced with a changing environment: cope, adapt, evolve or die...
> 
>                                         Regards,
> 
>                                            Ali
> >


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Moritz Rothschild wrote:
> 
> In <5b4ktu$br9$1@news.nyu.edu> fresh@scscomm.com (Andrew Mathis)
> writes:
> >
> >talisman@synapticon.com  wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I am a student in the Netherlands, and we are buried under
> >>foreign mud-race filth.  I do not know if the stink of their
> >>bodies or the screams of their voices is worse.  Adolf Hitler
> >>was right, and I only wish he had been allowed to finish his
> >>work.
> >
> >He'd have killed your ass eventually.
> >
> >>We in the Netherlands face Kike laws to suppress free speech.  We
> >>are prevented from discussing the holocaust lie, and other Jew
> >>lies and schemes.  We must fight them!  I would appreciate any
> information
> >>you could send me;  flyers, cartoons, anything.  If you need money
> first,
> >>send me mail and tell me how much.
> >
> >Who passes these Kike laws?  There aren't any Jews left in Holland.
> >
> >>My account is at University, so I must not get e-mail there;  a
> >>friend is posting this for me.  Please just send the information
> >>by regular mail.
> >
> >Coward.
> >
> >>Thank you.
> >
> >>Evert jan Benz
> >>nijensteinheerd 58
> >>9736 TD  Groningen
> >>Nethderlands
> >
> >We'll just turn this one over to the Dutch consulate...
> >
> >=================================================================
> >
> >Shining a flashlight on the ugly underside of the 'net:
> http://www.webmagazine.com/Features/Hate/intro.html
> >
> >NOT Alfred: http://www.nj.com/maxwells/archive/hitchcock.html
> >
> >The Homepage that made Milwaukee famous: http://pages.nyu.edu/~aem0608
> >
> >Interviewer: Well, then, can you destroy the Earth?
> >The Tick: Egads, I hope not!  That's where I keep all my stuff!
> Andrew,
> I guess each country has its mutants, the throw backs to the
> Neanderthals.  You know better than I how to handle this evil.  Go to
> it, pal.
> Shabbat shalom
> Hilda




	So your solution is to report him to the atuhroties, which is exactly
what he says Jews do.  
	Liberal freedom of speech means freedom of speech for liberals, right?


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Philip Kasiecki wrote:
> 
> In article , Dana Booth (crom@eskimo.com) wrote:
> : In article <5b9cj2$bdk@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>,
> : kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca says...
> 
> : >You mean "anti-white" as in the National Alliance contention that
> : >white folks are too stupid to think for themselves, Bob?
> 
> : ..and so on....
> 
> : Every posting that I see from you is always so bitter and hateful.
> 
>     Funny, considering that he's actually showing how much these
> supposedly "pro-White" folks really hate themselves...


	As I have said so many times before to this same tired old line, this
"you hate yourself" crap is so old they make fun of it in sitcoms.
	Kasiecki-Brown never comes up with anything.




> 
>         Phil Kasiecki
> 
> --
> Philip T. Kasiecki
> Electrical and Computer Engineering
> Northeastern University Class of 1999
> 
> "The most dangerous kind of ignorance is the ignorance
> of the educated."   -Thomas Sowell, "Race and Culture"


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Philip Kasiecki wrote:
> 
> In article ,
> Albert Himoe (ahimoe@soltec.net) wrote:
> : In article <5b8fon$n81@chaos.dac.neu.edu>, Philip Kasiecki
> : (pkasieck@lynx.dac.neu.edu) writes:
> : > : Race is factor in U.S. crime.
> : > : by Samuel Francis
> : > : May 14, 1994
> 
> : >     I'd love to see this guy prove that the color of their skin has
> : > *anything* to do with this, with the exception of hate crimes, in
> : > which it obviously makes a difference.
> 
> : You are probably correct, skin color has little to do with U.S. crime,
> : but race does. What's the crime rate by black albinos?
> 
>     There are no "races" among humans.  And besides, the idea of "race"
> among humans is based on skin color- I'm willing to bet that a person
> with what are supposed to be "White features", except for having dark
> skin, would not be called "White" by the racists, for example, and I'll
> bet that if I had a bigger nose, and/or thick lips, but still had the
> same very pale skin, I wouldn't be called "Black".


	As I explain to one PC clone at a time, and over and over, the fact
that the dfinition of race can be fuzzy at the edges doesn't mean a
thing.  Try to tell Argentina that, because there is a debate about
whether the Falkland Islands is part of Argentina,  Argentina therefore
does not exist.
	Race very much exists for you PC clones when it comes to blaming whites
and
demanding that EVERY white majority coutnry, and ONLY white majority
countries,take
in massive immigration from the third world, impose racial balance
internally, and so forth.   Your final solution to the race problem is
actually always your final solution to the white problem.
	"White" is a very meaningful word for you when you condemn whites. 
Like
everybody else, you know exactly what you mean for your own purposes.
	 No one dies for a dictionary.  You would be willing to fight to do
something TO
the white race.   You only resort to this "What is white?" sophism when
other whites
defend their race. 
	Typical PC Doublethink.









> 
>         Phil Kasiecki
> 
> --
> Philip T. Kasiecki
> Electrical and Computer Engineering
> Northeastern University Class of 1999
> 
> "The most dangerous kind of ignorance is the ignorance
> of the educated."   -Thomas Sowell, "Race and Culture"


From bwhit@conterra.com Wed Jan 15 13:20:21 PST 1997
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From: Bob Whitaker 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Re: He Who Asks the Questions Controls the Conversation
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dckom wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 12 Jan 1997 13:20:47 -0800 c.e., Anonymous 
> wrote :
> >Re: Ten Questions for Doc Tavish - Day Three  (Oh, gee, I switched
> >the subject heading with the message body, but, in any case, does
> >anyone want a person like Andrew Mathis controlling any conversation?)
> >
>         I prefer open discussion, but if anyone's going to control the
> discussion, better Andy then Doc
> 
>         David
> >
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Free thought, neccessarily involving freedom of
> speech and press, I may tersely define thus:no
> opinion a law-no opinion a crime.
>           Alexander Berkman



	He who asks the questins does control the discussion.  
	That's why I don't let the anti-whites sneak out of the point that all
their stuff boils down to immigrtion and integration for All white
countries, and ONLY for white countries.   
	They're demanding genocide, and we shouldn't let them change the
subject.


From bwhit@conterra.com Wed Jan 15 13:55:54 PST 1997
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From: Bob Whitaker 
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Subject: Re: How About An All White Society???
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 18:12:25 -0500
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smaceach@polar.bowdoin.edu wrote:
> 
> bwhit@conterra.com wrote:
> >
> >       As I explain to one PC clone at a time, and over and over, the fact
> > that the dfinition of race can be fuzzy at the edges doesn't mean a
> > thing.  Try to tell Argentina that, because there is a debate about
> > whether the Falkland Islands is part of Argentina,  Argentina therefore
> > does not exist.
> 
> Sorry, Bob, analogy doesn't hold. In the first place, 'Argentina' can be
> described pretty exactly along a couple of axes -- citizenship and the
> geographical placement of frontiers, for example. The fact that there have
> been armed disputes with Britain (and Chile, for that matter) quite
> recently over where those borders lie doesn't change the fact that most of
> that border (95%?) is internationally agreed-upon. But if we're trying to
> come up with some definition of 'white'... well, the most complete attempt
> to characterize human genetic variation so far has been Luigi Cavalli-Sforza
> et al, _The History and Geography of Human Genes_, and they work with over
> 100 independently varying features, IIRC -- with none being more 'important'
> than any of the others. Two versus 100+... that's why Cavalli-Sforza has
> explicitly said that the racial concept that you're defending doesn't make
> any sense. He's also got a popular book out, _The Great Human Diasporas_,
> in which he talks about the topic.



	Wow!   You mean there's a Polticially Correct book out?  What a
surprise!




> 
> Other reason that the analogy breaks down is that 'Argentina' is a social
> concept, and there's no denying that race exists as a social construct --
> usually being used to trash other people who are not of the 'right' race.
> Thus 'blacks' in the American South and in apartheid South Africa wouldn't
> be any under illusion that there was no such thing as race on a social,
> economic and political level. We're denying that it has any _biological_
> reality.


	
	I don't get bogged down in sophistry with you clowns. When you
say there is no white race, you are tacitly admitting that are
interested in immigration and integration in ALL white Majority
countries, and ONLY in white majority countries.  
	The only way you can claim this pattern is not genocide is to say there
is no white race. 
	I don't get drawn into this definitional sophism.  I concentrate  on
the admission behind it.




> 
> Scott
> _______________
> 
> Scott MacEachern
> Department of Sociology and Anthropology
> Bowdoin College
> Brunswick, ME 04011
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