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From bwhit@conterra.com Tue Oct  1 12:31:53 PDT 1996
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From: Bob Whitaker 
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Subject: Re: Why do you believe it???????????
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 11:29:17 -0400
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Geoffrey E Brewster wrote:
> 
> Bob Whitaker (bwhit@conterra.com) wrote:
> 
> <>
> 
> :    Yes, but for decades any opposition was suppressed by your heroes'
> : control of the media.   I am using the net to say what millions have
> : wanted to say while you PC's repearted and repeated and repeated.  Here,
> : you keep repeating the same threee or four things, using a lot of words
> : to say the same thing over and over.
> 
> First of all Bob, you do not know me well enough to asume that you know
> who my heroes are or what they control.  Actually, the most important
> hero in my life was my grandfather who never wrote a news story in his
> life.  He lived his life in a way that would make anyone proud, and did
> not judge people by anything else than the content of their character.
> 
> Yes, I used MLK's words above, because I respect what he stood for and
> the sacrifices he made to further a cause in which he believed.  I would
> respect anyone who had that much commitment to what they believed that he
> or she is willing to risk his or her life for that belief.  I do not have
> the same respect for you.
> 
> Secondly, if millions have wanted to say the things that you are saying,
> there has been plenty of opportunity to do so.  I do not buy into your
> paranoid delusions that the media is controlled by some organized group
> of conspiricists who are trying to supress your message.  Could it be,
> Bob, that your message does not deserve to be repeated?
> 
> Third, you keep repeating the same things over and over again, but your
> vocabulary seems much more limited than most of the people on this
> newsgroup, racists and anti-racists alike.  I think that you had better
> liik in the mirror before you say that anyone else has been brainwashed
> by some people who don't agree with your peculiar philosophy.
> 
> :    I simply take what you say and reduce it to its essentials, which
> : makes you look pretty stupid.  How I look doesn't concern me.
> 
> I may look stupid to you. Thanks for the compliment.  I would hate to be
> in the position that you thought I was intelligent because the only way I
> could do that would be to agree with you.  BTW, your opinion of me does
> not concern me in the least.  I know I am not stupid, and that is what
> counts.
> 
> :     The difference is that what I am saying was totally suppressed by
> : you PC clones for decades.  That makes it very different from your
> : parroting what everybody has heard hundreds of times at public expense.
> 
> Well, repetition, according to your twisted philosophy (whatever that is
> because you very rarely post anything of substance) must be the answer
> because you do enough of it yourself.  Many people do not know of your
> philosophy, not because it has been supressed, but because it makes no
> sense.  Why would anyone want to repeat the drivel that you put forth?
> Only ignorant fools like yourself who are so caught up in their own
> inadequacies that they can't see the larger world out there.
> 
> :     Please note that you clones really can't deal with it, because I
> : have to keep repeating and you keep asking the same questions.
> 
> Personally, I can deal with anything you have to say.
> 
> :     I know Mommy Professor told you your statements were devastating and
> : are supposed to carry all before it, but that only seems to happen in
> : media you have a chokehold over.
> 
> I don't know how you view education, but I rarely take anything people
> tell me in a classroom at face value.  When I do research, I look at as
> many sides of my topic that I can find, and evaluate it on its face.
> Bacause of this I have disagreed with many of my professors.  No one
> tells me how or what to think.
> 
> :  So, unless you can respond with something
> : > original, I will just keep on putting my two cents in and keep on making
> : > sense.  You just keep on spouting your drivel until everyone on this
> : > group gets tired of you and quits responding to your nonsense.  Have and
> : > nice day, and don't forget your electroshock appointment tomorrow.  (You
> : > see, there was something original--everyone else says you are on
> : > medication.  I think your insanity has progressed beyond the phase at
> : > which mere medication can help).
> 
> :    Who the hell cares?
> 
> I think you should because I hate to see anyone go down into the hell of
> insanity.  All people have the right to a chance at life no matter what
> their beliefs or their physical charachteristics, even you.
> 
> See signature below.
> 
> : >
> : > Geoffrey E. Brewster
> : >
> : > P.S. I apologize for making a personal attack. I usually like to stick
> : > with the issues we are discussing.  However, Bob really does deserve it.


   Since when has any clone hesitated to make a personal attack on
anyone who disagrees with establishment orthodoxy on race?  The first
thing everybody gets when they disagree is a personal atteck.
   Please don't try to be clever.  Just stick to reciting what you are
supposed to say.


From bwhit@conterra.com Tue Oct  1 21:03:12 PDT 1996
Article: 45478 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: Bob Whitaker 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.discrimination
Subject: Re: The Criminalization of Freedom of Association
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 18:20:48 -0400
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Derek Bell wrote:
> 
> The Generalissimo  writes:
> >Books that are 20 (or 30) years old?  Thats the best information you
> >have?
> 
>         What on earth does the age of the books have to do with it???
> 
>         Derek
> --
> Derek Bell  dbell@maths.tcd.ie  WWW: http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dbell/index.html
>         "Donuts - is there _anything_ they can't do?" - Homer Simpson


    It means you  have to dif into the past to justify your present
excesses.


From bwhit@conterra.com Tue Oct  1 21:03:13 PDT 1996
Article: 45480 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: Bob Whitaker 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Re: The Criminalization of Freedom of Association
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 18:23:54 -0400
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To: "Jeffrey G. Brown" 

Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> 
> In article <324FC86D.6C93@conterra.com>, bwhit@conterra.com wrote:
> 
> >    That was then, this is now.  The pendulum has swung so far that the
> > very existence of the white race is your target now.  This is justified,
> > as such things are, by shouting about how Evil white people are, and
> > Hitler was, etc.
> >    They use this to justify attacking whites, note the absence of
> > quotation marks when they are saying something nasty about whites, and
> > saying "whites" when anyone expresses a concern about the genetical
> > continuance of the race or says something good about it.
> >    All this so-called "integration" is demanded only in majority white
> > countries.  Their goal is a world in which Asia is Mongoloid, Africa is
> > Negroid, and every white majority of today is a nice,
> > ethnically-balanced brown.  This is targetted,a nd it is thereofre
> > genocide, and screaming about past injustices does not excuse.  In fact,
> > this has nothing to do with righting past injustices, but they shout
> > loud enough to keep people from noticing that.
> 
> Why does Whitaker choose to lie about the words and actions of others?








       They keep shouting "lie" when I take their verbose Politically
Correct bullshit and
reduce it to plain English.  In Mommy Professor's classroom or on the
media, they are used
to acting like their three or four statements are actually independent
ideas if they say the
same thing over and over in different ways.    
       I don't let them get away with it, and they damn near have a
stroke.
       Whenever they say anybody who is concerned about the white race
is totally a
creature of Hate, or some other equally irrational comment, I reduce it
to English.   This is
just another version of what they are always saying: that anyone who is
concerned about
the white race is A Nazi Who Wants To Kill Six Million Jews.
       Everybody who reads this has heard these Politically Correct
types use the Nazi  label
as a reflex action against all disagreement on the race issue
       Finsten indicated she never even THOUGHT such a thing,, and all
the clones chimed
in that she would never THINK of such a thing.    But when I first
entered this ng, she
routinely did what clones routinely do: she called her opponents by long
German titles to
indicate they were Nazis.
       Or else all those German Untergruppen titles were just a
coincidence.  I don't think
even a clone would say that.
       But these so-called anti-racists HAVE to call people Nazis.  It's
the only way they can
justify what they are doing.  They have an equivalent of racial
cleansing, which is racial
balance.  It applies only to majority white countries, and it applies to
every single majority-
white country.   It is targetted against whites, and it is genocide
        They demand massive third world immigration into EVERY white
majority country,
and ONLY  into white majority countries.  Their ideal -- as they would
freely tell you if they
weren't being called on it here -- is to racially balance every single
community  in every
single white majority country, and only in white majority countries.  
They call it "integration"
and "anti-racism", though  it is targetted at only one race.  Asia and
Africa are not affected.
       They call it the "solution to the race problem".  It is actually
the Final Solution to the
White Problem.
       The "anti-racists" constantly insult the white race and attack
anyone who dares object
to massive third world immigration.
       Hitler used the Jews.   These anti-whites use Hitler.
        Now, instead of saying I am A Nazi Who Wants To Kill Six Million
Jews, they say if
I don't want my daughter to marry a nonwhite, I am oppressing all
nonwhites, and I am
doing it only for the sake of  Pure Hate.  
        Which, to anyone outside Politically Correct circles, is just
another version of the old
Nazi bit.
         They simply cannot stay away from the Nazi bit, because in the
end, when they are
called on their real goals,  it is the only justification they can use
for their progam of
genocide against whites.
         No matter how well Politically Correct clones have been trained
to say the same
vicious things in many different ways, it still amounts to the same
thing, and I will continue to
reduce it to its simple-minded essence and its genocidal goals.







> JGB
> 
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown                                   jeff_brown@pol.com
>  "What's going to happen?"   "Something wonderful..."   -- '2010'


From bwhit@conterra.com Tue Oct  1 21:03:14 PDT 1996
Article: 45481 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: Bob Whitaker 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Re: The Criminalization of Freedom of Association
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 18:24:47 -0400
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To: "Jeffrey G. Brown" 

Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> 
> In article <324FC919.A8D@conterra.com>, bwhit@conterra.com wrote:
> 
> >     You clones only make three or four points, total, and I reduce all
> > that verbiage to plain English and it drives you nuts.
> >     Yes, just as the destruction of any nonwhite race would upset you
> > terribly, I simply will not back down from attacking the destruction of
> > mine.
> 
> Why does Whitaker choose to lie about the words and actions of others?
> 
> JGB
> 
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown                                   jeff_brown@pol.com
>  "What's going to happen?"   "Something wonderful..."   -- '2010'







       They keep shouting "lie" when I take their verbose Politically
Correct bullshit and
reduce it to plain English.  In Mommy Professor's classroom or on the
media, they are used
to acting like their three or four statements are actually independent
ideas if they say the
same thing over and over in different ways.    
       I don't let them get away with it, and they damn near have a
stroke.
       Whenever they say anybody who is concerned about the white race
is totally a
creature of Hate, or some other equally irrational comment, I reduce it
to English.   This is
just another version of what they are always saying: that anyone who is
concerned about
the white race is A Nazi Who Wants To Kill Six Million Jews.
       Everybody who reads this has heard these Politically Correct
types use the Nazi  label
as a reflex action against all disagreement on the race issue
       Finsten indicated she never even THOUGHT such a thing,, and all
the clones chimed
in that she would never THINK of such a thing.    But when I first
entered this ng, she
routinely did what clones routinely do: she called her opponents by long
German titles to
indicate they were Nazis.
       Or else all those German Untergruppen titles were just a
coincidence.  I don't think
even a clone would say that.
       But these so-called anti-racists HAVE to call people Nazis.  It's
the only way they can
justify what they are doing.  They have an equivalent of racial
cleansing, which is racial
balance.  It applies only to majority white countries, and it applies to
every single majority-
white country.   It is targetted against whites, and it is genocide
        They demand massive third world immigration into EVERY white
majority country,
and ONLY  into white majority countries.  Their ideal -- as they would
freely tell you if they
weren't being called on it here -- is to racially balance every single
community  in every
single white majority country, and only in white majority countries.  
They call it "integration"
and "anti-racism", though  it is targetted at only one race.  Asia and
Africa are not affected.
       They call it the "solution to the race problem".  It is actually
the Final Solution to the
White Problem.
       The "anti-racists" constantly insult the white race and attack
anyone who dares object
to massive third world immigration.
       Hitler used the Jews.   These anti-whites use Hitler.
        Now, instead of saying I am A Nazi Who Wants To Kill Six Million
Jews, they say if
I don't want my daughter to marry a nonwhite, I am oppressing all
nonwhites, and I am
doing it only for the sake of  Pure Hate.  
        Which, to anyone outside Politically Correct circles, is just
another version of the old
Nazi bit.
         They simply cannot stay away from the Nazi bit, because in the
end, when they are
called on their real goals,  it is the only justification they can use
for their progam of
genocide against whites.
         No matter how well Politically Correct clones have been trained
to say the same
vicious things in many different ways, it still amounts to the same
thing, and I will continue to
reduce it to its simple-minded essence and its genocidal goals.


From bwhit@conterra.com Wed Oct  2 14:36:59 PDT 1996
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Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.discrimination
Subject: Re: The Criminalization of Freedom of Association
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 18:20:48 -0400
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Derek Bell wrote:
> 
> The Generalissimo  writes:
> >Books that are 20 (or 30) years old?  Thats the best information you
> >have?
> 
>         What on earth does the age of the books have to do with it???
> 
>         Derek
> --
> Derek Bell  dbell@maths.tcd.ie  WWW: http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dbell/index.html
>         "Donuts - is there _anything_ they can't do?" - Homer Simpson


    It means you  have to dif into the past to justify your present
excesses.


From bwhit@conterra.com Wed Oct  2 19:42:26 PDT 1996
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From: Bob Whitaker 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.white-power,alt.revisionism,talk.rape
Subject: Re: ?
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 18:04:59 -0400
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Daniel B. Holzman wrote:
> 
> In article ,
> Mark Van Alstine  wrote:
> >
> >It would indeed be interesting to know where Welsing's numbers came from.
> >In the BJS report: _Female Victims of Violent Crime_ (NCJ-126826), Table
> >21. Race of offenders, by race of female victims of rape, 1973-87 it shows
> >that of single offender rapes that:
> >
> [snip]
> >
> >It is clear, I believe, from the above numbers that there were 302,960
> >black on white and 33,129 white on black rapes between 1973 and 1987. That
> 
> It is not clear at all.  So long as rape is drasticly undderreported, all
> that is, or even can be clear, is information about -reported- rapes.
>




    By a factor of nine to one?  
    The point is that yuour fellow clone said that he had *statistics*
that contradicted waht is said here.  You are, like all clones, charging
off in all directions to get off that.
    Why can't you just say he was simply wrong, instead of going into
thsi frantic grab for some semblance of justification.  We're all wrong
a lot, why a clone simply say so like everybody else?






> --
> Daniel B. Holzman -- Love does not subtract, it multiplies. -- All acts of love
> and pleasure are Her rituals. -- An it Harm none, do what you Will. -- They
> took my name and stole my heritage, but they didn't get my goat. --  The
> word is all of us. -- Remember the Twelth Commandment and keep it Wholly.


From bwhit@conterra.com Wed Oct  2 20:22:35 PDT 1996
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From: Bob Whitaker 
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Daniel B. Holzman wrote:
> 
> In article ,
> Mark Van Alstine  wrote:
> >
> >It would indeed be interesting to know where Welsing's numbers came from.
> >In the BJS report: _Female Victims of Violent Crime_ (NCJ-126826), Table
> >21. Race of offenders, by race of female victims of rape, 1973-87 it shows
> >that of single offender rapes that:
> >
> [snip]
> >
> >It is clear, I believe, from the above numbers that there were 302,960
> >black on white and 33,129 white on black rapes between 1973 and 1987. That
> 
> It is not clear at all.  So long as rape is drasticly undderreported, all
> that is, or even can be clear, is information about -reported- rapes.
>




    By a factor of nine to one?  
    The point is that yuour fellow clone said that he had *statistics*
that contradicted waht is said here.  You are, like all clones, charging
off in all directions to get off that.
    Why can't you just say he was simply wrong, instead of going into
thsi frantic grab for some semblance of justification.  We're all wrong
a lot, why a clone simply say so like everybody else?






> --
> Daniel B. Holzman -- Love does not subtract, it multiplies. -- All acts of love
> and pleasure are Her rituals. -- An it Harm none, do what you Will. -- They
> took my name and stole my heritage, but they didn't get my goat. --  The
> word is all of us. -- Remember the Twelth Commandment and keep it Wholly.


From bwhit@conterra.com Thu Oct  3 08:36:27 PDT 1996
Article: 71016 of alt.revisionism
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From: Bob Whitaker 
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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 18:28:09 -0400
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The Mac Gangsta wrote:
> 
> In article <52onpv$bta@chaos.dac.neu.edu>, pkasieck@lynx.dac.neu.edu
> (Philip Kasiecki) wrote:
> 
> > In article <324E8A71.6FEB@conterra.com>,
> > Bob Whitaker (bwhit@conterra.com) wrote:
> > :      My people is the people with whom I want to associate and whom I
> > : want to preserve.   Your entire load of bullshit is aimed at destroying
> > : my race and my ability to define and associate with it.
> >
> >     Bob, "your race" never even existed scientifically.  If this were
> > about 400 years ago, the "White race" and "Black race" and all others
> > would not even exist.  We'd simply be what we really are- people, of
> > varying descents, and physical features based on our heritage.  You and
> > I are of predominately European descent, and have White skin as a
> > result; a few of my friends are people of predominately African or
> > Caribbean descent, and have a dark skin, nappy hair, thick lips, and
> > broad noses, among others, as a result
> 
> Actually Phil, there are some east Africans with--get this: thin noses and
> thin lips, and some with very *un*-rounded eyes, and even pretty thin hips
> too! Most African Americans just happen to come from the *northwestern*
> shores of Africa, so that's why we 'all look alike'! Haha.
> 
> I've seen whites that I thought were light-skinned half Asians who weren't
> at all (not many, but I've seen them); I've seen even Asians mistake a
> Chicano here or there for another Asian! I have a really good 100% Polish
> friend that I originally thought--mistakenly--was either a light-skinned
> Black or a Latina. You know that some Asians/Middle Easterners have *blue*
> eyes and blonde hair! And of course, many Latin Americans/Latinos are
> Black, racially, well as just predominantly Black, period.



The same old song again: if the borders are at all fuzzy, then all
reality disappears.  If there are any Frenchmen who speak German, one
cannot say France is French-speaking country.  If there is disagreement
as to whether the Falkland Islands are British or are part of Argentina,
then Argentina really doesn't exist.
   That's moronic.
   If I were black, I think the idea of all white majority countries
being immigrated and integrated into a nice uniform brown while Africa
is not so invaded would be a fun idea.   You're simply being a good
black racist.
   It's the white traitors I can't stand, though I can see why you'd
LOVE them.






> 
> You see, it's even hard to *racially* classify people phenotypically--oh,
> I forgot!: that word is *too big* for a bunch of white trash loser
> unemployed/semi-employed/&underemployed aryans who had everything going
> for them in America and still are at the bottom!!!!--because we all,
> regardless of color, often can share various physical aspects one way or
> another--except that *no one* is as dum as white trash loser aryans.
> 
> >          Phil Kasiecki
> 
> Take care Phil,
> 
> --
> Go and do Peace,
> 
>   The Mac Gangsta :
> 
>       Peace out .


From bwhit@conterra.com Thu Oct  3 10:52:05 PDT 1996
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From: Bob Whitaker 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.discrimination
Subject: Re: Am I a racist?
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 18:16:06 -0400
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Laura Finsten wrote:
> 
> Bob Whitaker  wrote:
> 
> [...]
> >    Anybody who does research which does not back your racial orthodoxy
> >will lose his job, and certainly will never be an "established
> >authority".
> 
> Tell me, Mr. Whitaker.  What was the "orthodoxy" of the late 19th
> century and the pre-World War II decades of this century?  Or was
> that era substantially different from the contemporary one - just
> a halcyon time of scientific truths oozing out all over??
> 
> "If I can't dance..... I don't want to be part of your revolution."
>      Emma Goldman




       Let me repeat this again:  each age has its own orthodoxy, each
of which is taught by its social scientists and agreed to by any
physical scientist who wants to keep his job.  
       You are unquestionsingly sure that THIS generation of academic
bureaucrats has the final truth on race.   You base you right to demand
that every white majority country, and only white majority countries,
bring in the third world.  When they get here, you want every possible
program of assimilation to be sure there are no whites left at the end. 
     Your final solution to the race problem is actually The Final
Solution to White Problem.  You base this on your unquestioning faith
that the post-World War II anti-Hitler reaction repesented the absolute
and final truth.
     I say, let me repeat, that every generation's social science is
absolutely biased.  You are saying this one's racial truth, in reaction
to Hitler, is absolutely right.
     Would you like me to repeat that?


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Laura Finsten wrote:
> 
> Bob Whitaker  wrote:
> 
> [...]
> >    Anybody who does research which does not back your racial orthodoxy
> >will lose his job, and certainly will never be an "established
> >authority".
> 
> Tell me, Mr. Whitaker.  What was the "orthodoxy" of the late 19th
> century and the pre-World War II decades of this century?  Or was
> that era substantially different from the contemporary one - just
> a halcyon time of scientific truths oozing out all over??
> 
> "If I can't dance..... I don't want to be part of your revolution."
>      Emma Goldman




       Let me repeat this again:  each age has its own orthodoxy, each
of which is taught by its social scientists and agreed to by any
physical scientist who wants to keep his job.  
       You are unquestionsingly sure that THIS generation of academic
bureaucrats has the final truth on race.   You base you right to demand
that every white majority country, and only white majority countries,
bring in the third world.  When they get here, you want every possible
program of assimilation to be sure there are no whites left at the end. 
     Your final solution to the race problem is actually The Final
Solution to White Problem.  You base this on your unquestioning faith
that the post-World War II anti-Hitler reaction repesented the absolute
and final truth.
     I say, let me repeat, that every generation's social science is
absolutely biased.  You are saying this one's racial truth, in reaction
to Hitler, is absolutely right.
     Would you like me to repeat that?


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NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN LEADERS RESIGN, CRY, BEG FORGIVENESS


	One thing we have all learned  from our Politically Correct clones is
that race now officially does not exist.  This is because races fade
into each other at the margins, so they are hard to define at the edges,
which means they do not exist at all.
	Further, we re all aware that HITLER believed in races.  So anyone who
believes that races exist is A Nazi Who Wants To Kill Six Million Jews.
	When I went to Washington, D.C. recently, I was astonished to discover
two groups who claimed to be the Republican and Democratic Parties.  We
all know there cannot be such a thing as a party, because  political
parties fade into each other at the margins, so they are hard to define
at the edge, which means means they do not exist at all.   Where does a
conservative Democrat end and a moderate Republican begin?
	Obviously, those who think they have a political party are Nazis Who
Want To Kill Six Milion Jews!
	But it is even more sinister than that.  After all, guess who else
believed in political parties.
	HITLER!!!!!!!
	Hitler had a political party!
	I charged into each national party headquarters in DC, showing them the
Politically Correct statements from the net, demonstrating how they were
Nazis Who Want To Kill Six Million Jews.  The chairmen stumbled out of
their offices,  and they cried, yes, they cried and begged forgiveness,
as everyone must who has violated Political Correctnes
	The question is, should we have an American Nuremburg Trial of  these
criminals, or just shoot them?   
	And all the party members will have to be shot, too.   They claim they
were only following orders.

 





Mike S. Medintz wrote:
> 
> Whilst completely naked, Malleus Maleficarum said unto us:
> 
> >>BIG difference, the NOI has't killed 12 million people.
> >>Lord Kano
> 
> >Oh, well neither has the Klu Klux Klan  : )
> 
> Whether or not the NoI has engaged in systematic terrorism and lynchings,
> with the intent to prevent people from excercising their rights, is at
> best debatable. The fact that the Klan has done this is proven.
> 
> --
> Mike S. Medintz | http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~medintz | KB9ODS
> Member, NRA, ACLU, EFF, ARRL, Sierra Club of Kansas
> Dream back the Bison, Sing back the Swan


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NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN LEADERS RESIGN, CRY, BEG FORGIVENESS


	One thing we have all learned  from our Politically Correct clones is
that race now officially does not exist.  This is because races fade
into each other at the margins, so they are hard to define at the edges,
which means they do not exist at all.
	Further, we re all aware that HITLER believed in races.  So anyone who
believes that races exist is A Nazi Who Wants To Kill Six Million Jews.
	When I went to Washington, D.C. recently, I was astonished to discover
two groups who claimed to be the Republican and Democratic Parties.  We
all know there cannot be such a thing as a party, because  political
parties fade into each other at the margins, so they are hard to define
at the edge, which means means they do not exist at all.   Where does a
conservative Democrat end and a moderate Republican begin?
	Obviously, those who think they have a political party are Nazis Who
Want To Kill Six Milion Jews!
	But it is even more sinister than that.  After all, guess who else
believed in political parties.
	HITLER!!!!!!!
	Hitler had a political party!
	I charged into each national party headquarters in DC, showing them the
Politically Correct statements from the net, demonstrating how they were
Nazis Who Want To Kill Six Million Jews.  The chairmen stumbled out of
their offices,  and they cried, yes, they cried and begged forgiveness,
as everyone must who has violated Political Correctness.
The question is, should we have an American Nuremburg Trial of  these
criminals, or just shoot them?  
And all the party members will have to be shot, too.   They claim they
were only following orders.


From bwhit@conterra.com Tue Oct 29 17:37:40 PST 1996
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Lester John Ness wrote:
> 
> shannon wagoner (shannon@som-uky.campus.mci.net) wrote:
> : he kills people that are considered by the liberals to work for
> : companies that hurt the environment, just the average psycotic tree
> : hugger.
> 
>         But isn't hatred of Big Business a traditional conservative theme?
> 
>         In fact, I think the Unibomber, like Lyndon LaRouche, is neither
> 'right' nor 'left,' just 'off-the-wall.'
> 
> --
> Lester Ness     lness@indiana.edu


    As you say, there is no such thing as a left wing terrorist.  All
terrorists are right wing terrorists.  A few, as in the case of the
unibomber and the old Weathermen, were a little hard to squeeze into the
right wing, so, as you say, they are neither right nor left.
    Am I a Politically Correct Intellectual now?


From bwhit@conterra.com Tue Oct 29 19:10:59 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: 14 YEAR OLD GA HONOR STUDENT ARRESTED AT MCDONALD'S
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Jahfree I Kupendua wrote:
> 
> FORWARDED MESSAGE
> =======================
> 
> >From: "Lisa D. Jackson" 
> >Reply-To: rucnshus@erols.com
> >To: nattyreb@ix.netcom.com
> >Subject: Honor Student  in Ga. Arrested for Daring to Speak Up
> >
> >Greetings!
> >
> >I am Shamine Bridgeforth, a Black, fourteen-year-old honor student at
> >McEachern High School in Powder Springs, Georgia, where I also live.  I
> >feel like I was a victim of police harrassment.
> >
> >On Friday, October 11, 1996, I accompanied my three friends, Leslie
> >Bigby, Rionda Behling, and Maurice Pollock, to McDonald's in Powder
> >Springs after attending a school football game.  They were hungry but I
> >wasn't.
> >
> >We went in and had a seat, casually speaking to other friends from
> >school that also came from the game (McDonald's is a popular gathering
> >place for school kids after football games to keep out of trouble).  We
> >were minding our own business and conducting ourselves accordingly, when
> >a Powder Springs police officer, Officer Jeff Hogan, which I later found
> >out was a security guard for McDonald's (though he was off duty, he was
> >still dressed in his Powder Springs police officer's uniform) approached
> >us and said, "If you aren't eating, LEAVE!"  My friends were about to
> >purchase something, so we didn't leave.
> >
> >Officer Hogan came again a second time and told us we needed to leave.
> >So, while Maurice and I waited at our table, Rionda and Leslie got in
> >line, Leslie offering to buy Rionda and me some chicken nuggets so we
> >could eat, in the hopes that Officer Hogan would leave us alone.  I feel
> >I was forced to eat there just to remain with my friends.
> >
> >Officer Hogan approached us a third time, directly looking at me, and
> >said, "I have given you all three warnings, now you need to leave."
> At
> >this point I felt that I was being harrassed and my rights were being
> >violated so, I simply explained to him that my friends were in line
> >purchasing food, that I couldn't drive, and I rode with them and they
> >were my only ride home.  I also explained that these were the friends
> I
> >told my parents I would be with and that they (my parents) expected me
> >to return with them.  He responded by saying, "That's your problem!" I
> >then told him I didn't think he could make me leave for that reason
> >(waiting for my friends who were in line).  So, he left and I thought
> >that was the end of it.
> >
> >Officer Hogan returned again, and this time my friends and I were
> >eating. We were doing what he requested us to do but, to no avail.  He
> >stopped me from eating and told me to come with him.  He wanted me to
> >give him information to fill out a juvenile complaint form.  I asked
> him
> >what the complaint was against me and he would not tell me.  He wanted
> >me to supply him with information about myself but wouldn't give me a
> >reason why, so I refused.
> >
> >At this point, he told me that if I didn't cooperate I was going with
> >him. He then grabbed my arm and I snatched away from him.  He then
> >placed me in handcuffs.  I thought he was supposed to read me my
> rights
> >or at least tell me what I was being arrested for.  Instead, he gave
> me
> >two options: (1) go to jail or (2) walk to the other side and fill out
> >this complaint at his car.  I told him, "I would walk to your car but
> >not through McDonald's.  I don't want my friends to see me in
> >handcuffs.  I would rather go to jail for my pride and my rights."
> >Officer Hogan then took me to the Powder Springs jail and I was placed
> >in a holding cell.  I later found I was charged with disorderly
> conduct.
> >
> >While at the jail, along with being questioned on the information in
> the
> >juvenile complaint filed by Officer Hogan, I was also questioned on
> >things like, "Do you smoke?", and "Do you have a cigarette lighter in
> >your purse?".  I was also told that if my parents could not be
> >contacted, that I would be transferred to YDC (the Youth Detention
> >Center).  I will remember this incident for the rest of my life.
> >
> >I feel this happened because I spoke up.  Since when in America is
> >freedom of speech "disorderly conduct" and against the law?  Isn't the
> >right to free speech written in The Constitution we read about in
> >school?
> >
> >As I stated before, I am a Black, fourteen-year-old, tenth grade honor
> >student at McEachern High School, expecting to graduate a year early.
> I
> >have good grades in school, I don't drink or smoke and I don't do
> >drugs.  I am very respectful to my parents at home, my teachers at
> >school, and all adults I encounter in my every day life.  I thought I
> >was supposed to be a happy, vibrant, and innocent teenager enjoying my
> >youth. I thought McDonald's was a place for kids to have fun.  Isn't
> >that the McDonald's concept? Kids?  But I don't feel that way anymore.
> 
> >I did nothing wrong, so why did this happen to me?  I didn't hurt
> anyone
> >or disturb anyone.  Now I don't feel welcome at that McDonald's in
> >Powder Springs.  In fact, I don't feel welcome in this country.
> >
> >
> >


      Since all the Politically Correct people say if I disagree with
them I'm a racist, I am proud to call myself a racist.  But, as Joe
Sobran pointed out, you should NEVER confuse the term "racist" with the
term "jerk".  What you were dealing with was a group of run-in-the-mill
officious jerks.  
      They would have been just as happy to kick you around for being an
"inbred white trash racist"  if you had been young and white and they
felt like throwing their weight around.
      As you travel around the world, you are going to find officious
jerks are absolutely everywhere.  Only their excuses differ.
      When I entered college at 16, I was worried about the future of my
race.   Since I  am white, the officious jerks with their PhD's treated
me like a hated minority group they chose to call "racist".   When the
Thought Police on campus get after a young student with the label
"racist", nobody, absolutely nobody has the courage to come to your
defense.   
       The jerks on campus call themselves Politically Correct
Intellectuals, but they're exactly the same breed you ran into.
       I got hurt by these jerks when I was young and impressionable,
but I hope I have resisted those who urged me to get back at the college
jerks by being mean to black people.  Don't let the jerks convert you to
one of their own.


From bwhit@conterra.com Wed Oct 30 07:55:46 PST 1996
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From: Bob Whitaker 
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Paul Gallagher wrote:
> 
> In <54rrj0$ho@clarknet.clark.net> frank@clark.net () writes:
> 
> >  We are all the same, one species Homo sapiens: thinking man
> >>(although it is evident that some do less than others).
> 
> >But again: the issue is subspecies, not species. Is Gerald really the only
> >person around here who will attempt to answer the actual question I asked?
> 
> Subspecies, or races, in biology are defined as natural populations within
> a species that differ genetically and that are partially isolated from
> each other reproductively because of their different geographic ranges.
> 
> The tendency in modern systematics is to reject the recognition of
> subspecies altogether for all species, because the definition of
> subspecies is arbitrary and "subspecies," however they are defined,
> have only a transitory existence as separate entities.

   You know damned well that anybody who disagrees with that loses his
job.  This is not a modern "tendency", unless you call everybody under
Stalin being a Stalinist to have been a "tendency".
   Do you deny that anyone who disagrees with you on this would lose his
job in any university?
   As far back as 1962, Carleton Coon was forced to resign as president
of anthropologists' society for disagreeing with you.  It's gotten worse
since.
   How can anybody with a shred of decency back this tyranny, and then
quote it as scientific fact?



> 
> If you want to find out more about the subspecies problem, try posting
> a question in sci.bio.evolution.
> 
> If you're particularty interested in human variation, try a book like
> R.C. Lewontin's Human Variation, which shows that the variation within
> human subgroups is much greater than that among the subgroups. That is,
> the average genetic difference between any two human subpopulations is
> less than the average difference between two members of the same
> subpopulation.


> 
> Linnaeus thought that various human subpopulations, including some
> that are now known to be mythical, were different species.
> 
> Nowadays, most people accept the biological species concept, in which
> species are defined by their ability to interbreed. In this respect,
> humans are clearly one species, since there is gene flow throughout the
> whole human population.
> 
> I imagine that even if you were trying to prove that certain human
> subgroups differed from each other in significant ways, you'd have to
> concede that they can still breed with each other. In fact, "race
> biologists" worry about that: superior types of humans will breed with
> inferior types, or with types that they consider non-human. When
> race scientists worry that whites will breed with other races, they
> are implicitly affirming that these groups are not biological races,
> since they are able to breed freely with each other and produce viable
> offspring.
> 
> Paul


From bwhit@conterra.com Wed Oct 30 07:55:48 PST 1996
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Justirv wrote:
> 
> In article <54rsqs$1dk@opera.iinet.net.au>, reverend@iinet.net.au wrote:
> 
> > pnosko@nmaa.org (Peter Nosko) wrote:
> >
> > >---
> > >Peter Nosko, Germantown, MD
> > >Race is a Pigment of the Imagination
> >
> [snip]
> >
> > Its not my imagination when i see my taxes going out to prop up
> > self-serving organizations.
> 
> Like the Pentagon and all the corporations that feed off of it. Like all
> the privatized government operations that create profits from you taxes.
> >
> > I have recently slaved my guts out to earn enough money to put a
> > deposit down for my own house. But then I am told I have STOLEN THEIR
> > LAND!!!!
> 
> No. No. You would simply purchase it from the real owner instead of
> another thief or victim. If the property rights of natives had been
> observed in some fashion (since they had no concept of single ownership),
> then yoiu would not have this cultural cloud on your title. No matter, no
> one will ever give it back to the original owner. You are quite safe.
> Enjoy.


     OH, HORSESHIT!
     You clowns love to scream and weep over the poor natives, but I
have never seen one of you give back your own property.


From bwhit@conterra.com Wed Oct 30 07:57:27 PST 1996
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From: Bob Whitaker 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.discrimination,sci.anthropology,alt.philosophy.objectivism,alt.politics.nationalism.white
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Paul Gallagher wrote:
> 
> In <54rrj0$ho@clarknet.clark.net> frank@clark.net () writes:
> 
> >  We are all the same, one species Homo sapiens: thinking man
> >>(although it is evident that some do less than others).
> 
> >But again: the issue is subspecies, not species. Is Gerald really the only
> >person around here who will attempt to answer the actual question I asked?
> 
> Subspecies, or races, in biology are defined as natural populations within
> a species that differ genetically and that are partially isolated from
> each other reproductively because of their different geographic ranges.
> 
> The tendency in modern systematics is to reject the recognition of
> subspecies altogether for all species, because the definition of
> subspecies is arbitrary and "subspecies," however they are defined,
> have only a transitory existence as separate entities.

   You know damned well that anybody who disagrees with that loses his
job.  This is not a modern "tendency", unless you call everybody under
Stalin being a Stalinist to have been a "tendency".
   Do you deny that anyone who disagrees with you on this would lose his
job in any university?
   As far back as 1962, Carleton Coon was forced to resign as president
of anthropologists' society for disagreeing with you.  It's gotten worse
since.
   How can anybody with a shred of decency back this tyranny, and then
quote it as scientific fact?



> 
> If you want to find out more about the subspecies problem, try posting
> a question in sci.bio.evolution.
> 
> If you're particularty interested in human variation, try a book like
> R.C. Lewontin's Human Variation, which shows that the variation within
> human subgroups is much greater than that among the subgroups. That is,
> the average genetic difference between any two human subpopulations is
> less than the average difference between two members of the same
> subpopulation.


> 
> Linnaeus thought that various human subpopulations, including some
> that are now known to be mythical, were different species.
> 
> Nowadays, most people accept the biological species concept, in which
> species are defined by their ability to interbreed. In this respect,
> humans are clearly one species, since there is gene flow throughout the
> whole human population.
> 
> I imagine that even if you were trying to prove that certain human
> subgroups differed from each other in significant ways, you'd have to
> concede that they can still breed with each other. In fact, "race
> biologists" worry about that: superior types of humans will breed with
> inferior types, or with types that they consider non-human. When
> race scientists worry that whites will breed with other races, they
> are implicitly affirming that these groups are not biological races,
> since they are able to breed freely with each other and produce viable
> offspring.
> 
> Paul


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Paul Gallagher wrote:
> 
> In <54rrj0$ho@clarknet.clark.net> frank@clark.net () writes:
> 
> >  We are all the same, one species Homo sapiens: thinking man
> >>(although it is evident that some do less than others).
> 
> >But again: the issue is subspecies, not species. Is Gerald really the only
> >person around here who will attempt to answer the actual question I asked?
> 
> Subspecies, or races, in biology are defined as natural populations within
> a species that differ genetically and that are partially isolated from
> each other reproductively because of their different geographic ranges.
> 
> The tendency in modern systematics is to reject the recognition of
> subspecies altogether for all species, because the definition of
> subspecies is arbitrary and "subspecies," however they are defined,
> have only a transitory existence as separate entities.

   You know damned well that anybody who disagrees with that loses his
job.  This is not a modern "tendency", unless you call everybody under
Stalin being a Stalinist to have been a "tendency".
   Do you deny that anyone who disagrees with you on this would lose his
job in any university?
   As far back as 1962, Carleton Coon was forced to resign as president
of anthropologists' society for disagreeing with you.  It's gotten worse
since.
   How can anybody with a shred of decency back this tyranny, and then
quote it as scientific fact?



> 
> If you want to find out more about the subspecies problem, try posting
> a question in sci.bio.evolution.
> 
> If you're particularty interested in human variation, try a book like
> R.C. Lewontin's Human Variation, which shows that the variation within
> human subgroups is much greater than that among the subgroups. That is,
> the average genetic difference between any two human subpopulations is
> less than the average difference between two members of the same
> subpopulation.


> 
> Linnaeus thought that various human subpopulations, including some
> that are now known to be mythical, were different species.
> 
> Nowadays, most people accept the biological species concept, in which
> species are defined by their ability to interbreed. In this respect,
> humans are clearly one species, since there is gene flow throughout the
> whole human population.
> 
> I imagine that even if you were trying to prove that certain human
> subgroups differed from each other in significant ways, you'd have to
> concede that they can still breed with each other. In fact, "race
> biologists" worry about that: superior types of humans will breed with
> inferior types, or with types that they consider non-human. When
> race scientists worry that whites will breed with other races, they
> are implicitly affirming that these groups are not biological races,
> since they are able to breed freely with each other and produce viable
> offspring.
> 
> Paul


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Laura Finsten wrote:
> 
> Bob Whitaker  wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> >      Good God, man, don't be such an intellectual slave!
> >      Under French and other European law, if a person merely says races
> >are really different, they face five years in prison and a sixty
> >thousand dollar fine. This is enforced.
> 
> Not in Austria.


        I don't understand this comment.  Brown would say you were lying
and demand quotes.
	Austria imprisons heretics, too, like every other white majority
country outside the US.

 
> >      The president of the American physical anthropologists'
> >association, Carleton S. Coon, was forced to resign way back in 1962 for
> >denying your racial orthodoxy.
> 
> This is false.  Carleton Coon resigned as president of the American
> Association for Physical Anthropology, which is an unremunerated position.
> He was asked to resign by a majority of the organisation's membership
> who felt that he was putting forward his own views as those of the
> organisation.  In other words, that he was abusing his position as
> president to promote his own political agenda.
   

     That's what I said.  This was a major figure, and it was 1962. 
They couldn't crush him like a bug the way they do any young heretic
today.



> Coon did not resign from his tenured position at Harvard University.
> 
> >       You and I both know that anyone who denies your politically correct
> >orthodoxy on campus loses his job.  I've watched it happen.  Your
> >so-called real bilogists toe the line or are fired, and you damned well
> >know it.
> 
> The names of a few, just a few, scholars who deny the "politically correct
> orthodoxy", as you so quaintly call it, and haven't been booted out:
> 
> Vincent Sarich, Berkeley
> J. Philippe Rushton, University of Western Ontario
> Michael Levin, City College of New York
> Roger Pearson
> Richard Lynn
> Linda Gottfredson
> Robert Gordon


	EUREKA!!!!!!!!!



	Congratulations, Ms. Finsten!
	The names you provided here are a milestone!
	 I have read over a thousand posts from you clones, and here is an
understatement: this is the first time one of you said something I
hadn't heard dozens of times.   That is a gross understatement: this is
the first time one of you has said anything that anyone reading this has
not heard before so many times they could repeat it in their sleep.
	What a relief!  For the first time, instead of demanding that I produce
Asian public opinion polls or quotations from French law, you actually
provided some information yourself!
	I am definitely going to look up the names you quoted.  It would be a
relief if any disagreement with your establishment line on race were
permitted anywhere in academe. 
	I do, of course, have some grumpy comments to make.
        You remembEr I once talked about the peacenik couple on the bus
with me when
we went into Hungary in 1971?   They were all full of the idea that the
Commies and the
West were just alike, so I was fascinated to watch them as we went over
the Hungarian
line.   We were going right across the dug-out mine area with the skulls
and crossbones on them, and right by the guards with their fully
automatic weapons, all there to kill escapees.  Surely, I thought, they
would see SOMETHING.
	Wrong again, Bob.   They both went into a hypnotic state, looking
straight ahead as we crossed into the land of their Beloved Fraternal
Workers' State.  They did not see one thing.   Creepy!
	Watching the establishment's Good Boys and Good Girls is a creepy
experience.
	You and all the other clones keep telling me that all real biologists
toe the line and agree with you on race, but when I point out that they
have to or they'll be fired, so you list some who you now say don't toe
your line.   
	Good Old establishment Good Boy Doublethink!
	You don't notice your contradiction, any more than that peacenik couple
going into Hungary did, but it is fascinating to watch from out here.  
On the net, you don't see any substantial number of discussions of race
dealing with race that
doesn't contain the word "Nazi" shouted repeatedly.   But when this is
pointed out, you can say, with perfect sincerity, "We don't ever say
Nazi."  And Brown can demand I stop lying and show where anybody has
ever called anyone a Nazi.  And you both mean it, you really do.
	Creepy.
	We have all heard your people on the media agree repeatedly that
miscegention was the "solution to the race problem".  But this so-called
"race" problem is only to be solved that way in majority-white
countries.  Asia is to stay Asian, Africa is to stay black.  It's your
solution to the *white* problem, not the race problem.   But the moment
this is pointed out, you immediately deny that anyone ever said
miscegenation was the solution.
	Good old Good Boy Doublethink.  And you believe it, too!
	Creepy.
	The best thing you could do for industrious Asian peasants would be to
dump
several hundred million of the oversupply into areas of Africa on which
are starving, but which the Asians could make something of. They could
feed the Africans.  But that, of course, would be genocide, because it
would be aimed against blacks.  White-majority countries only, you tell
us, because that can't be genocide.
	Doublethink.   And you do honestly believe it.


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Ron Kephart wrote:
> 
> frank@clark.net () wrote:
> 
> > Now if you'll just tell me what you mean by "meaningful," you'll have
> > answered the original question, "What are the race deniers denying?"
> 
> By "biologically meaningful" I meant genetically determined traits
> which cluster together within a given population and which do not
> occur in other populations.  Let's say that all humans with very light-brown
> skin, blue eyes, and straight blonde hair also had type O blood, and
> they all happened to live on Iceland.  Let's say further that they
> had lived there for maybe 10,000 years with no gene flow between them
> and any other human population.  Maybe you could make a good case for
> this being a "race"; what do the real biologists think?


      Good God, man, don't be such an intellectual slave!
      Under French and other European law, if a person merely says races
are really different, they face five years in prison and a sixty
thousand dollar fine. This is enforced.
      The president of the American physical anthropologists'
association, Carleton S. Coon, was forced to resign way back in 1962 for
denying your racial orthodoxy.    
	You and I both know that anyone who denies your politically correct
orthodoxy on campus loses his job.  I've watched it happen.  Your
so-called real bilogists toe the line or are fired, and you damned well
know it.
      So like a good little authoritarian, you quote those who are under
your intellectual tyranny as authority.
      Every recognized Soviet university expert on Marxism in 1980 was a
Marxist.  Every prfessor who keeps his job agrees with you.  That doen't
make you right, it just makes you the establishment's good boy.  
      And a bully.

 
> This situation simply does not describe any human population that I
> am aware of.  All the traits used above occur separately in combination
> with still other traits, and all human populations have been for our
> entire history in long-distance genetic contact with all others via
> gene flow.
> 
> The original classification of biological organisms into species and
> subspecies or "races" had as one of its underpinnings the creationist
> assumption that the characteristics used in doing the classifications
> were permanent features of the organisms in question.  I'm no biologist
> but what I learnd in my physical anthropology courses was that most
> biologists, in the light of evolutionary theory and the realization
> that most if not all the traits used in classifications are more-or-
> less plastic, had pretty abandoned the notion of "race"/subspecies in
> favor of looking at the distribution and possible adaptive advantage
> of the aforementioned traits.
> 
> Translated to anthropology, what this means is that rather than trying
> to use, say, skin color as a diagnostic for placing people into
> taxonomic groupings (which in the light of other biological evidence
> simply does not work) we now want to know what the selective advantages
> of darker or lighter skin color might be in particular kinds of local
> environments.  And what other factors, such as sexual selection, etc.
> might be involved?
> 
> Another point that comes to mind is that one of the traits that makes
> us unique, language, is distributed evenly over the whole species.
> What if people from, say, Europe could only acquire languages that
> OVERmark plural in noun phrases (e.g., the NP THOSE THREE cowS,
> contains three overt plural markers).  Now that would be a real good
> "racial" classification, wouldn't it?  But it won't work, because any
> human from anywhere can acquire any human language.  Language clearly
> has a biological basis far more "meaningful" than most of the traits
> traditionally used in "racial" classifications, and it has to be
> universal or else Europeans would not be able to learn languages like
> Aymara, which do not over-mark plural.
> 
> I take language to be a truly meaningful trait, in the sense that
> if it "fails" for some reason the life of the person affected is
> severely changed.  A trait like skin color, on the other hand, is
> relatively less meaningful; dark-skinned people transplanted to
> Norway can get their calcium in other ways, while light-skinned
> people in the tropics can cover up and drink extra fluids.  It might
> be "meaningful" to group people into races by blood type, but then
> you have to ask "Why?".
> 
> I don't know if this takes us anywhere or not, but it's what was
> on my mind.
> 
> Ron Kephart
> University of North Florida


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Joseph T. Adams wrote:
> 
> The Bok (thebok@dreamon.com) wrote:
> 
> :  Hate breeds hate.
> 
> Yes, and that is EXACTLY what we have been trying to tell you.  You
> refuse to heed your own advice, because you do not see what you are
> doing as being hate.
> 
> But in actuality it is the hate, more than anything else about your
> philosophy, to which I object.
> 
> One could conceivably engage in a rational discussion about whether
> the "races" are different, if that were all that is at stake.  But
> it's not.
> 
> One could conceivably discuss topics like how one should define
> "race," why it should be an issue, whether races should be homogenous
> and separate from each other, and many related issues.  In fact, each
> of these questions has been discussed in this forum in the past, and
> relatively peacefully, prior to the N.A. invasion.
> 
> But where decent and honest folks MUST draw the line is on the issue
> of supremacy - any kind of supremacy, whether white, black, Jewish, or
> whatever - because when you say that your race is superior, you are
> implying that all other races, and all members of all other races, are
> inferior to you and yours.  That, in a nutshell, is hate.
> 
> This evil philosophy - that some people (usually based on membership
> in a group, such as a race, a nation, or a religion) are better than
> others - is what led to the evils of slavery, of the Holocaust which
> your kind and only your kind denies, and many if not most of the
> bloody wars of conquest and revenge that have ever occurred.
> 
> Furthermore, while all hate is illogical, hate based on group
> membership is the most illogical at all.  Aggregate properties of
> groups do not pertain to individuals and vice versa.  Even if many
> Jewish people are excellent businessmen and women, that does not mean
> that an individual Jewish person is.  Even if many Black people are
> excellent athletes, that does not mean a particular Black person is.
> Ditto for Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans, Whites, or any other
> racial, ethnic, or religious group.  The only aggregate
> characteristics of any group which can sometimes be said to pertain to
> members of that group are those which constitute a requirement for
> group membership.  Even that is risky.  Are all members of the
> Communist Party really Communists?  No.  Many are simply opportunists
> looking for a chance to take control over others, and are using the
> group for their own purposes.  I suspect the same thing is true of the
> NA as well.
> 
> We reject hate in all its forms - I try to avoid hating even Nazis and
> others who hate me and those whom I love, although it's admittedly
> tough - and we plead with you to do likewise, before you act on it in
> violation of the rights of others, at which point we will be forced
> both by honor and by law to make sure you either go to prison or die.
> 
> Joe


        That is to say, anyone who disagrees with this clown is A Nazi
Who Wants To Kill Six Million Jews.
	And every time one of these Politically Correct cloens yells racist at
the militia, the militias drool and crawl and beg him not to think it.
	Pitiful!


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Laura Finsten wrote:
> 
> Bob Whitaker  wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> >      Good God, man, don't be such an intellectual slave!
> >      Under French and other European law, if a person merely says races
> >are really different, they face five years in prison and a sixty
> >thousand dollar fine. This is enforced.
> 
> Not in Austria.


        I don't understand this comment.  Brown would say you were lying
and demand quotes.
	Austria imprisons heretics, too, like every other white majority
country outside the US.

 
> >      The president of the American physical anthropologists'
> >association, Carleton S. Coon, was forced to resign way back in 1962 for
> >denying your racial orthodoxy.
> 
> This is false.  Carleton Coon resigned as president of the American
> Association for Physical Anthropology, which is an unremunerated position.
> He was asked to resign by a majority of the organisation's membership
> who felt that he was putting forward his own views as those of the
> organisation.  In other words, that he was abusing his position as
> president to promote his own political agenda.
   

     That's what I said.  This was a major figure, and it was 1962. 
They couldn't crush him like a bug the way they do any young heretic
today.



> Coon did not resign from his tenured position at Harvard University.
> 
> >       You and I both know that anyone who denies your politically correct
> >orthodoxy on campus loses his job.  I've watched it happen.  Your
> >so-called real bilogists toe the line or are fired, and you damned well
> >know it.
> 
> The names of a few, just a few, scholars who deny the "politically correct
> orthodoxy", as you so quaintly call it, and haven't been booted out:
> 
> Vincent Sarich, Berkeley
> J. Philippe Rushton, University of Western Ontario
> Michael Levin, City College of New York
> Roger Pearson
> Richard Lynn
> Linda Gottfredson
> Robert Gordon


	EUREKA!!!!!!!!!



	Congratulations, Ms. Finsten!
	The names you provided here are a milestone!
	 I have read over a thousand posts from you clones, and here is an
understatement: this is the first time one of you said something I
hadn't heard dozens of times.   That is a gross understatement: this is
the first time one of you has said anything that anyone reading this has
not heard before so many times they could repeat it in their sleep.
	What a relief!  For the first time, instead of demanding that I produce
Asian public opinion polls or quotations from French law, you actually
provided some information yourself!
	I am definitely going to look up the names you quoted.  It would be a
relief if any disagreement with your establishment line on race were
permitted anywhere in academe. 
	I do, of course, have some grumpy comments to make.
        You remembEr I once talked about the peacenik couple on the bus
with me when
we went into Hungary in 1971?   They were all full of the idea that the
Commies and the
West were just alike, so I was fascinated to watch them as we went over
the Hungarian
line.   We were going right across the dug-out mine area with the skulls
and crossbones on them, and right by the guards with their fully
automatic weapons, all there to kill escapees.  Surely, I thought, they
would see SOMETHING.
	Wrong again, Bob.   They both went into a hypnotic state, looking
straight ahead as we crossed into the land of their Beloved Fraternal
Workers' State.  They did not see one thing.   Creepy!
	Watching the establishment's Good Boys and Good Girls is a creepy
experience.
	You and all the other clones keep telling me that all real biologists
toe the line and agree with you on race, but when I point out that they
have to or they'll be fired, so you list some who you now say don't toe
your line.   
	Good Old establishment Good Boy Doublethink!
	You don't notice your contradiction, any more than that peacenik couple
going into Hungary did, but it is fascinating to watch from out here.  
On the net, you don't see any substantial number of discussions of race
dealing with race that
doesn't contain the word "Nazi" shouted repeatedly.   But when this is
pointed out, you can say, with perfect sincerity, "We don't ever say
Nazi."  And Brown can demand I stop lying and show where anybody has
ever called anyone a Nazi.  And you both mean it, you really do.
	Creepy.
	We have all heard your people on the media agree repeatedly that
miscegention was the "solution to the race problem".  But this so-called
"race" problem is only to be solved that way in majority-white
countries.  Asia is to stay Asian, Africa is to stay black.  It's your
solution to the *white* problem, not the race problem.   But the moment
this is pointed out, you immediately deny that anyone ever said
miscegenation was the solution.
	Good old Good Boy Doublethink.  And you believe it, too!
	Creepy.
	The best thing you could do for industrious Asian peasants would be to
dump
several hundred million of the oversupply into areas of Africa on which
are starving, but which the Asians could make something of. They could
feed the Africans.  But that, of course, would be genocide, because it
would be aimed against blacks.  White-majority countries only, you tell
us, because that can't be genocide.
	Doublethink.   And you do honestly believe it.


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Lorne Beaton wrote:
> 
> In article ,
> Parker Beatley  wrote:
> >
> >Jim, about whites making America great....
> >
> >If the English and Germans had settled in Mexico instead of America and if
> >the Spanish had settled in New England and Virginia instead of Mexico,
> >today Mexico would be the Super Power and America would be a 3rd world
> >country. Look at the English speaking countries--Australia, New Zealand,
> >Canada, USA. Not one is a dud. All the Spanish countries are 3rd world
> >nations and not super powers.
> 
> If Spain, which was the predominant naval power in Europe (and therefore
> the world) in the 15th Century, had managed to hold on to its power,
> then conceivably everyone in the Americas might now be speaking Spanish,
> whatever their country of origin. If it's true that being
> white/Aryan/Nordic etc. is the only determinant of success, then how did
> Spain gain the power it had in the first place? Why was the first to
> reach America Christopher Columbus, and not Henry Hudson or Samuel de
> Champlain?
> 
> >In fact, even today, having
> >several hundreds of years of living close to whites, the native Americans
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >live like dirty pigs in Reservations, too lazy and stupid to move off of
> >them.
> 
> You make it sound as though living close to whites is a good influence.
> Maybe the reason they stay on reservations is that, despite centuries of
> warfare and repression, they still have some pride in themselves and
> their way of life.
> --
> Lorne Beaton: beaton1@server.uwindsor.ca
> ----------------------------------------
> "I am not Montel Williams.
>  I AM NOT MONTEL WILLIAMS!" - John Munch



    Actually, all the conquistadors and Columbus were very, very white
indeed.  It was that which confused the Aztecs into thinking Cortez was
their ancietn white god returned.  Don't you libs know ANYTHING?


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Well, the libs have one more group by the balls with the same old
tactic:  Call them racist and they'll beg for forgiveness.
   I understand the militias are out picketing racist groups and trying
desperately to show the liberal media they are not racists.   Anybody
who has been dealing with libs for a while has to be a true retard to do
that.
   If the word racist scares you into doing htis kind of pathetic
picketting, it is just what the libs want to it to do.  If you think you
are going to get them to cut back by doing what they want, you really
should get out of politics altogether.
   The only answer is to look them in the eye and say, "If what I
believe is racist, then screw you, I'm a racist."   If people start
doing this, it will threaten the one greatest weapon the libs -- and
their echoes, "repectable" conservatives -- have.  They will back off
like a scalded cat.
    But as long as you crawl, drool, beg forgiveness, scream anti-racist
slogans and all the rest like Pavlov's dogs the minute they shout
racist, they are sure as hell going to shout racist. 
     
  






Mike S. Medintz wrote:
> 
> Whilst completely naked, TroyLaws said unto us:
> 
> >Now, we see that both types of militia groups, the multirace
> >militia and the White Nationalist militia, are armed and training
> >for something. What is that something?
> 
> We're training to protect our Constitution and our fellow citizens. THe
> nazidiots are training to violate the Constitution and kill their fellow
> citizens on the basis of skin color, or on the latter's exercise of their
> First Amendment right of religion.
> 
> >Perhaps the first scenario which comes to mind is the situation
> >where the NWO declares all private ownership of firearms illegal.
> 
> Maybe to those who are gullible enough to believe in the "eeeevil NWO," but
> not to us.
> 
> >(ahabiz, since I am neither a Nazi nor a militia member, I do not
> >feel qualified to respond to your hatred directed at me.)
> 
> Relax, troynazi, we never hate our enemies. Resist them, maybe, but hatred
> is for nazis and fools like that.
> 
> --
> Mike S. Medintz | http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~medintz | KB9ODS
> Member, NRA, ACLU, EFF, ARRL, Sierra Club of Kansas
> Dream back the Bison, Sing back the Swan


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I am  interested: does anybody know an exception to this rule.
   Doesn't it say somthing about these precious "precedents" War Crimes
are tried on?


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Jim Standish wrote:
> 
> whitepride@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > A Waste Land is exactly what America will turn into, a third world nation,
> > if we do not segregate the races.  Segregation=happiness for all...
> 
> ===If you really believe this, how come you hide behind a silly alias?
> White pride my ass; enough dipshits like you could cause me some serious
> white shame.  Anyway, kiddo, it's too late to segregate the
> races...should've thought of that before you hauled all those colored
> folks over here to do your labor for you.  For that matter, should've
> stayed in Europe, whither you are cordially invited to return.
> --
> Jim
> Hawharharharharhehehehehehukhukhukhukeeeeehaw :)


        Please remember that we are not talking about "the races".  No
one will push massive immigration into Asia or Africa, including wealthy
Japan.   Only one race is being immigrated and integrated out of
existence.  
        You demand masive immigration and racial "balance" for each and
every white majority country, and ONLY for white majority countries. 
Your so-called "solution to the RACE problem" is purely a Finnal
Solution to the *White* Problem.
	Going to Europe makes no difference.  You Politically Correct clones
demand that whites be chased down everywhere.


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AHABIZ wrote:
> 
> In article <846631986$3787@atype.com>, johannes@ix.netcom.com (John C.
> Stephens III) writes:
> 
> >And this message from the Twilight Zone:
> >
> >In <846613097$2197@atype.com> Bob Whitaker  writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN LEADERS RESIGN, CRY, BEG FORGIVENESS
> 
> >MEDIC!!!!
> 
> well, okay, but I'm not sure how much good a medic can do on someone who
> has already obviously been subjected to a prefrontal lobotomy...tournaquet
> to the neck time?
> 
> Arlin


       Like most Politically Correct types, this boy is not burdened
with a sense of humor.
	This is what he was bitching about:

NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN LEADERS RESIGN, CRY, BEG FORGIVENESS


	One thing we have all learned  from our Politically Correct clones is
that race now officially does not exist.  This is because races fade
into each other at the margins, so they are hard to define at the edges,
which means they do not exist at all.
	Further, we re all aware that HITLER believed in races.  So anyone who
believes that races exist is A Nazi Who Wants To Kill Six Million Jews.
	When I went to Washington, D.C. recently, I was astonished to discover
two groups who claimed to be the Republican and Democratic Parties.  We
all know there cannot be such a thing as a party, because  political
parties fade into each other at the margins, so they are hard to define
at the edge, which means means they do not exist at all.   Where does a
conservative Democrat end and a moderate Republican begin?
	Obviously, those who think they have a political party are Nazis Who
Want To Kill Six Milion Jews!
	But it is even more sinister than that.  After all, guess who else
believed in political parties.
	HITLER!!!!!!!
	Hitler had a political party!
	I charged into each national party headquarters in DC, showing them the
Politically Correct statements from the net, demonstrating how they were
Nazis Who Want To Kill Six Million Jews.  The chairmen stumbled out of
their offices,  and they cried, yes, they cried and begged forgiveness,
as everyone must who has violated Political Correctness.
	The question is, should we have an American Nuremburg Trial of  these
criminals, or just shoot them?  
	And all the party members will have to be shot, too.   They claim they
were only following orders.


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Fragano Ledgister wrote:
> 
> Bob Whitaker (bwhit@conterra.com) wrote:
> : Laura Finsten wrote:
> : >
> : > Sounds like you need to take a holiday, Ken.
> : >
> : > "If I can't dance..... I don't want to be part of your revolution."
> : >      Emma Goldman
> 
> :    Finsten, please, please, just once, use another line.
> 
> Whitaker, you're evidently too stupid to understand the concept of
> .signature files.
> 
> --
> Dawn over the dark sea brings on the sun;
> She leans across the hilltop: see, the light!
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu



    you're clearly too stupid to understand I was talking about the line
above the signature line.


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From: Bob Whitaker 
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william c anderson wrote:
> 
> Bob Whitaker (bwhit@conterra.com) wrote:
> : Laura Finsten wrote:
> : >
> : > Sounds like you need to take a holiday, Ken.
> : >
> : > "If I can't dance..... I don't want to be part of your revolution."
> : >      Emma Goldman
> :
> :
> :    Finsten, please, please, just once, use another line.
> 
> Geez--this from the guy who thinks whining "Mommy Professor" and
> "politically correct clones" in every post constitutes a form
> of argument...
> 
> Bill



    In dealing with you brain-dead Politically Correct types, I am
repetitious because you always say the same three or four things in
different words.  I know it's tiresome, because you  are so very
tiresome.
     The problem is that Finsten, like the rest of you, thinks you're
being original with the "take a holiday" or "you're not taking your
medicine", etc., though each of you says this to everybody on the other
side over, and over, and over and over.
    You keep repeating the same old crap everybody reading this has
heard hundreds of times, usually at public expense, and you think you're
being novel or witty or whatever Mommy Professor told you you were
being.
    You can't really vary your routine because you don't know anything
else, and Mommy Professor told you not to think of anything else, but
you could  at least not repeat waht another clone just said to someone
else.  Just a little variation, please.
    I would love to vary what I say, but you human tape recorders never
give me any encouragement.


From bwhit@conterra.com Thu Oct 31 16:45:30 PST 1996
Article: 34650 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: Bob Whitaker 
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Subject: Re: The Joel Rosenberg-Jeffrey G. Brown Connection
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Gregory Taylor wrote:
> 
> Cowardly ol' Frank's hard at work again. Is this pathology or what?
> Let's see if a couple of day's rest has resulted in the regeneration
> of some of those fused neuronal clusters:
> 
> > wrote:
> 
> Oh, look. A remailer post featuring our favorite fake cop. Now what
> St. Louis-area radio talk show "stealth supremacist" might this be?
> 
> >It has become obvious that the personalities or "personas" known as Joel
> >Rosenberg and Jeffrey G. Brown are either the same poster or are closely
> >connected.
> 
> ROTFL Whoops! The jig is up! Nice try nitwit, but you missed. *I'm* Joel
> Rosenberg *and* Jeffrey G. Brown. Yo! "officer" - the man on the grassy
> knoll? It was me/Joel/Jeffrey/Rev. JeannieK. How could it have taken such
> a fine specimen of superior potatoistically cogitative abilities *so*
> long to figger it out? Was it the mind-scrambling Talmudic rays bounced
> off the black UN copters and focused through those tiny "security thread"
> antennae in all them greenbacks in your back pocket? Or would it be that
> the *last* thing a pathetic dude who sits around inventing fake playmates
> all day long in an attempt to appear less idiotic would imagine is that
> he's face-to-face with another HUGE conspiracy! Yikes!
> 
> Of course, I guess I shouldn't be too surprised about the extent to which
> spending time in cyberspace may make it harder to remember other easier
> and decidedly noncyberthings to do. What would you say when you get a nice
> note from a kid at Washington University that says, "If your really want
> to know who the Couch Potato is, why not call WGNU and ask for Frank
> Weltner and see what you get told?" If you were me, you'd probably say,
> "Oh. Silly me." Of course, it's a local call from Washington University,
> and I don't think it's worth the long distance fees.
> 
> Stay lame, coward, and don't forget to shine "officer" bob's "badge."
> 
> (cue roomful of snickering persons who might or might not all be Joel
> Rosenberg or Tyrone Slothrop or Jeffrey G. Brown or Dirk-Jan te Rietstap
> or....Gregory Taylor.)
> 
> --
> The arts are the field on which we place our own dreams, thoughts, and desires
> alongside those of others, so that solitudes can meet, to their joy sometimes,
> or to their surprise, and sometimes to their disgust.(R. Hughes) Gregory Taylor
> WORT-FM 89.9 Madison, Wisconsin http://www.msn.fullfeed.com/~gtaylor/RTQE.html


       I have to agree with you.  There is no way anybody can tell you
clones apart by what you write.


From bwhit@conterra.com Thu Oct 31 23:20:41 PST 1996
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From: Bob Whitaker 
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Hank Blake wrote:
> 
> Aryan wrote:
> >
> > [Ludicrous rant dumped]
> 
> Why'n'cha haul ass for Antarctica? It's all white there! Shit, boy, you
> prolly won't even need a passport!
> 
> --
> Hank Blake
> +--------------- True Famous Last Words ------------------+
> | Copilot: The chart shows a 3000 foot mountain up ahead. |
> | Captain: What's our altitude?                           |
> | Copilot: We're at 3000 f...                             |
> +---------------------------------------------------------+


      You PC clones always say stuff like that, but the simple fact is
that if whites set up all white communities in Antarctica, you'd demand
laws requiring them to take in non-whites.
      Your program is Africa for blacks, Asia for Asians, and all white
majority to be subjected to massive third world immigration.   Every
white community is to be integrated with your racial balance programs
and your "low-cost" housing.
      Only white majority countries are to be integrated, and every
single one of them, no exceptions.   Applied to any race but the white
one, it would be called genocide.


From bwhit@conterra.com Thu Oct 31 23:22:38 PST 1996
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ray wood wrote:
> 
> Bob Whitaker  wrote in article
> <32767D91.317C@conterra.com>...
> >       They would have been just as happy to kick you around for being an
> > "inbred white trash racist"  if you had been young and white and they
> > felt like throwing their weight around.
> 
> Bob, the cop may have being a racist, or he may have been a jerk,
> but until you learn to read minds you have no basis for insisting the
> officer's actions were not racist.
> 
> Why is it so difficult for you to at least consider
> the possiblity that a specific act of a specific cop could be
> racially motivated? A little self-examination is in order
> here, dude.
> 
> You are white. Like it or not, a lot of cops will treat you
> different from the young sister merely and only because
> of the difference of the hues of your skins.
> 
> You know this ... whether you will admit it to the young
> lady or not.
> 
> Young sister, I respect the manner in which you handled
> yourself. You certainly did nothing wrong. Unfortunately,
> we live in a racist country. You shouldn't have to, but
> in the future, consider obeying even unreasonable requests
> from police officers.
> 
> Like I said, you shouldn't have to. But, a lot of black folks
> have been hurt, maimed, and even killed by cops for doing
> no less than insisting on being treated with respect.
> 
> And, unfortunately, practically all judges, most whites, and
> an alarming number of blacks are willing to believe such
> cops when they get in court and lie thru their teeth about their
> actions.
> 
> You now know how it is in the real world. I recall being stopped
> by a cop for a traffic violation when my son, who was about
> your age, was in the car. I went thru my usual routine:
> 
>     1) slowly come to a stop
>     2) turn on the dome light
>     3) place both hands on the steering wheel
>         and leave them there till the officer
>         approaches the car and asks for my
>         license.
> 
> Afterwards, I explained to my son why I go thru such a routine
> whenever a cop pulls me over. Like I said, it shouldn't
> be necessary. But, that is the world we live in.
> 
> Ray Wood


    And in the real world, only white majority countries are being
immigrated and integratd out of existence.  In the real world, blacks DO
commit more crimes, etc.  If a white person describes the real world, he
is a racist.
    You describe reality from a black perspective, and you are
non-racist.
    My point was that self-pity is not the right attitude with which to
deal with reality.  As I said, all it can lead to is the young lady
learning from you to think in terms of hurting people back.  My
recommendation is for her to realize that officious jerks will be
officious jerks and use race, age, "evil raicst" or anything else as an
excuse.
     My recommendation is that she not follow your implied
recommendation that she use race to become an officious jerk herself.


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william m hebler wrote:
> 
> In <555jvd$54f@b10.b10.ingr.com> Eric Kelso writes:
> >
> 
> >
> >I hate to break this to you, but the girl's mother stated recently
> that her
> >daughter DIDN'T asked to be kissed. So what does that make the little
> boy's
> >behavior, eh? I would say that it was unacceptable.



   GOOD GOD, MAN, THAT MAKES IT **RAPE**!!!
   A Poltically Correct person would execute the little felon!



 Maybe not
> deserving of
> >being labeled a 'sexual harrasser', but certainly sufficient to get
> his butt
> >warmed with a good paddling. Poor behavior is poor behavior and
> >left-wing/right-wing Political Correctness should have no bearing on
> the issue.
> 
> Whats this?  It used to be a 6 year old kissing another 6 year old was
> thought cute.  Now its a crime deserving of a good paddling.  A 6 YEAR
> OLD, we are talking about here.  Quit the BS about poor behavior.  This
> wasn't some teenager or man, but a little 6 year old boy whom you want
> to paddle.  Hmmmm I think I'll call your local social service office
> and have them put you on their watch list.  Advocating corporal
> punishment, will ya?  You'll never get your name off their crimes
> against children even though their is no proof or conviction list.
> 
> BHebler


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Ken McVay OBC wrote:
> 
> In article <846650967$5211@atype.com>,
> mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney) wrote:
> 
> >If the commies are sooooo anti-Jewish, why are so many Jews communists?
> 
> Perhaps, Mr. Scott, before we examine this question, you
> should provide us with your data.... it seems clear, from the
> construct of your question, that you already know the answers,
> so I have no difficulty in the asking:
> 
> 1. How many Communists are there in the world?
> 2. How many of them are Jewish?
> 
> While I am certain you have the correct answers, I will, of
> course, need the citation for the poll you are citing, so I
> can confirm your figures and stand in proper awe at your great
> accomplishment.
> 
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     I have been informed that that OBC you keep putting there is some
sort of brag about how smart you are?   Pathetic!


From bwhit@conterra.com Fri Nov  1 09:09:39 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: What in the hell....?
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Chuck Ferree wrote:
> 
> Chuck Ferree wrote:
> 
> Hey aryan, I'm enclosing my two dollars toward your bus fare to where
> ever the hell you wanna go, pal. Just so long as you leave the United
> States of America, it'll be fine with me. And take your two natsie
> friends with ya. O.K. ?
> 
> Jesssuuuusss. What an elcreepo.
> 
> Aryan wrote:
> >
> >      What in the hell is going on with all of this politically correct
> > bull shit when it comes to racism?
> 
> Racisim is a disease, idiot!!!


    You will allow no whites to escape integration.  If a few do, the
others will join them.  That's history.
     You will settle for nothing less than genocide.  All white majority
countries must take in massive third world immigrtion and be integrated
by racial balance programs.  You are not at all interested in
immigration to nonwhite countries.
     Huge tracts of land in Africa could be made productive by tens of
millions of Asians coming in.  You would scream genocide if anyone
advocated that.
     What you call the solution to the race problem is actually your
Final Solution to the White Problem.



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