The Nizkor Project: Remembering the Holocaust (Shoah)

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DAN   wrote:

>kurtstel@micron.net (Kurt Stele) writes:
>> 
>> Gee, do you think the Talmud causes the Israelis to torture Palestinians and shoot
>> Palestinian children in the head with Uzis?   Let's see how good Andrew Mathis' reading
>> comprehension is, shall we?

>Don't believe to arab propaganda,Kurt.

ARAB PROPAGANDA is it??? You are a sick little joke. The Palestinians
have been enduring hatred and murder for half a century and you have
the nerve to dismiss it as propagands??!! 

>I served in Gaza couple of years ago,and remember tens of 
>palestinians throwing bricks from 6-8 meters and my officer
>asking by walkie-talkie to use fucking shock-grenade(nobody even talked about 
>shooting).

One isolated incident doesn't really reflect on the reality that there
is a systematic pogrom to crush the Arabs. 

Shamir and Begin were pivotal leaders of the reprehensible IRGUN &
STERN gangs.  What do think those evil, murderous vermin got up to
Danny boy???

>So stop talking about things you don't know nothing about.

Oh - and you do, do you???





From reverend@iinet.net.au Sat Nov  2 09:31:31 PST 1996
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dswan@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca (Daniel Swan) wrote:

>Ken McVay OBC (kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca) wrote:
>: All of them, of course. It was part of a Joosh Plot to
>: stop the Secret Nazi UFO Scientists That Kindly Unkie Ernst
>: Would Someday Meet from designing thier Secret Nazi UFO
>: Weapon Hidden To This Day In Anarctica By Hitler Who By The

>Mr. McVay, have you no better weapon in your arsenal than
>mockful rhetoric?

No, he thinks the magic letters 'OBC' will fill us with awe. How can
we compete against such a highly respected and honoured man?!?

Whats that stand for - Order of the British Crown???  Isn't  this the
same Crown that sent convicts to Australia for stealing loaves of
bread and then killed heaps of Aborigines??? Yup - sure is.

If Kenny was around 50 years ago, he'd no doubt be parading his Iron
Cross (if he had the guts to earn one!!)

He wears the badge of another country with pride, and yet he has the
gall to sneer at patriots.



>.............................................................................
>   "And if you want to Swan, one to one...  kid, we don't need a pond."
>                             -Prefab Sprout

>	Dan Swan at U of Calgary.	http://www.ucalgary.ca/~dswan    
>		Standard Disclaimers Apply, Finger for PGP.
>.............................................................................
>	     				






From reverend@iinet.net.au Sat Nov  2 10:20:24 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: The Holocaust Memorial is for Everyone
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jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:

>In article <556vom$g78@is05.micron.net>,
>   sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote (in regard to this false statement):
>::>>As I said before Jews are the only ethnic group with a tax-paid
>::>>memorial for them.
>::
>::>And the only ethnic group that lobbied for one, at least as far as you
>::>can prove.
>::
>::That is very telling.

>But it is false. The Holocaust Memorial is not restricted to Jews in any way 
>shape or form. Tickets are available to anyone. And all sorts of people go 
>there, for all sorts of reasons. The contents are not exclusive, either. The 
>people who died in the Holocaust are all represented, regardless of race, 
>religion or nationality. It is INclusive, just like the Lincoln Memorial, the 
>Smithsonian Museum, and and the memorial to the Wright Brothers at Kitty Hawk. 
>It reminds us all of history. It helps us remember.

>You of all people, with your ability to forget, and obfuscate, are seriously 
>in need of a trip to the Memorial, to refresh your memory.

Take a trip to Palestine and have a look at the blood of the children
killed by those who lobbied for the memorial.

OPEN YOU EYES Jimmy - You mind mind follow!!!

>     Love, Jim Walsh

>[P.S. I sometimes correct spelling and grammar in quoted material without intending to modify the meaning.]






From reverend@iinet.net.au Sat Nov  2 10:20:25 PST 1996
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sschultz@pond.com (Schultzie) wrote:

>v064mb9k@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (NEIL GANDLER) wrote:

>>>The Jews pretty much get ANYTHING they want!!  Then again, controlling
>>>the media helps.  Oh, and also, having a HUGE influence on CONGRESS
>>>never hurts either!!  The gullible goyim just keep shelling out the
>>>dough in BILLIONS for Israel and the Holocaust!!   But millions of
>>>RUSSIANS who died in WWII get no such Holocaust.  I sense special
>>>treatment -- what about you!
>>> 
>>>Brian Smith
>>>www.natall.com
>>> 
>Brian,

>Aren't you a little afraid that the Jews also control the Internet,
>and are tracking you through your computer?

What do you think NIZKOR is up to you myopic dreamer.

>Be afraid.  Be very afraid....

Want a job? Better see whether you have been logged on any HATE
MONITORING GROUPS first!  You have? Hmm - I don't think you're the
sort of person we want working in our company...

You get the picture? 

Ask Germar Rudolph whether its safe to express an opionin!!! 

>Schultzie






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sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>"Annie Alpert, OFB"  wrote:
> 
>>You still haven't answered the question, Brian--You admit that at least
>>a million Jews were murdered, right?  

>Nope.  Even that is a gross exaggeration.   Although thousands did
>die, as many died in WWII, from disease and starvation.  But not
>extermination.  That is a great historical LIE.

>>Is this a good thing in your eyes?

>Er, no, if anything because it gives Jews the moral chutzpah to
>falsely justify their torture and killing of Palestinian kids.

You've got to remember Brian that the Zionists and Adolph Eichmann
were once best of friends. The Zionists rubbed their hands with glee
when the NUREMBERG LAWS were passed. The more jews that fled Germany
to Palestine enabled them to prop up their numbers. Eventually they
outnumbered the Arabs to the point that they can massacre them at
will.

No wonder they were so keen to murder Eichmann so he couldn't point
the finger at his former Zionist allies!!! 



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sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:


>>Conclusion: in territory they control, Israeli Jews outnumber Arabs
>>roughly 4:3. Among Israel and its immediate neighbors, Arabs outnumber
>>Israeli Jews roughly 19:1.

>>You were saying?

Exactly!!! - In Israel the Jews do outnumber them now. But they DIDN'T
before the ZIONISTS deliberate program to prop up the numbers of Jews
in Palestine till they had the balance of power. 

(BTW its interesting to see that the Ethiopian Jews are treated like
lower class people by the rest of Israel. Whilst their numbers are
needed, its curious that they are held in distain by the massses.)

Its similar to Branch Stacking in Politics. Sign up a heap of new
members who will vote for you at a Party Meeting but will never be
seen again.

>He was saying that Jews massacre Arabs at will.   It's true.  Jews can
>do whatever they want to Palestinians, torture them, shoot dead their
>children, and no lackey in Congress will DARE even suggest that the
>aid to Israel be cut.   If White South Africans did the above, they
>would be universally condemned, because it would be Whites mistreating
>non-Whites.  However, Jews can commit atrocity after atrocity against
>Palestinian civilians and the media hardly slaps them on the wrist! 

He's right you know ....

>This is very explainable anyway:  the Jews control the media too!

>Brian Smith
>www.natall.com





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jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:

>The inclusive policy of the Americans in contrast to the exclusive policy 
>of Nazis meant that even though the German Army was larger than America's 
>army, the Nazis were doomed to defeat.

Perhaps if the Einsatzgruppen had not stormed into the occupied
territories after the German troops had 'liberated' them, then things
may have been different. A vast ammount of the polulation of Russia
welcomed the Wehrmacht as liberators. Imagine their horror when the
Einsatzgruppen followed..... Not a particularly great way for a
country to endear itself.

Instead of alienating the populations which they invaded, a differnt
approach could have yielded different results.


>The policy of the Allies of treating diversity as a strength was an essential 
>element in their victory.

Is that why the USA army refused to let Black men serve along White
men in WWII. Get out your history books - They had segregated units.
And this is because the Blacks were to be used by the US generals as
cannon fodder.

So much more strength in diversity!!!!!

>     Love, Jim Walsh

>[P.S. I sometimes correct spelling and grammar in quoted material without intending to modify the meaning.]







From reverend@iinet.net.au Tue Nov  5 06:58:55 PST 1996
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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>BTW, I saw Angie Hart and Simon Austin the other night in New York.
>They're lovers, you know.  And I think he may be Jewish.

Whaaat the??? You really are an amusing little man Andrew.... 

Why would I care if Austin is Jewish. The fact that a musician is
Jewish doesn't stop me from listening to them. I enjoy Lou Reeds
music. I don't go 'Oh deah - I can't listen to Lou, because he is of
Jewish descent.'

Just like you wont stop listening to NEW ORDER or JOY DIVISION. Does
the fact that the names of these bands were coined without the
slightest shred of irony (despite what the band's press say) bother
you??????

Just so you know - the problem I have with Frente is not that they are
Jewsish but that they are twee, nauseating, fey, limpwristed,
saccharine SHITE!!!!!!

>Sweet dreams.

>=================================================================

>Shining a flashlight on the ugly underside of the 'net: http://www.webmagazine.com/Features/Hate/splash.html

>What's new with Frente?  http://www.nj.com/maxwells/july96/frente.html

>The Homepage that made Milwaukee famous: http://pages.nyu.edu/~aem0608

>"Panu derech Hashem"
>--Yeshayahu 40:3





From reverend@iinet.net.au Wed Nov  6 07:53:57 PST 1996
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:

>    In dealing with you brain-dead Nazi types, I am
>repetitious because you always say the same three or four things in
>different words.  I know it's tiresome, because you  are so very
>tiresome.
>     The problem is that Whitlessiker, like the rest of you, thinks you're
>being original with the "take a holiday" or "you're not taking your
>medicine", etc., though each of you says this to everybody on the other
>side over, and over, and over and over.
>    You keep repeating the same old crap everybody reading this has
>heard hundreds of times, usually at public expense, and you think you're
>being novel or witty or whatever Wee Willy Pierce told you you were
>being.
>    You can't really vary your routine because you don't know anything
>else, and Wee Willy Pierce told you not to think of anything else, but
>you could  at least not repeat waht another clone just said to someone
>else.  Just a little variation, please.
>    I would love to vary what I say, but you human tape recorders never
>give me any encouragement.

Please Ken. I encourage you once again. Please present the attrocities
which lie behind the establishment of Israel.

I search your archives constantly for some denouncement of NETANYAHU
and his fascist policies, but alas i find nothing.

But it appears your hatred of people like Bob Whitaker who has to
courage of his convictions to speak his mind blinds you from the real
truth that the real tyrants are orchestrating conflict, horror and
misery in Palestine.

>-- 
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>kmcvay@nizkor.org   |---------------------------------------------
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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:
>
>>Just like you wont stop listening to NEW ORDER or JOY DIVISION. Does
>>the fact that the names of these bands were coined without the
>>slightest shred of irony (despite what the band's press say) bother
>>you??????

>Ever heard "At a Later Date?"  

Yes - and I have the live version on SHORT CIRCUIT where Albrecht
screams at the crowd  'YOU ALL FORGOT RUDOLPH HESS!!'

Sounds like a Nazi to me.

>You don't have a clue about New Order or Joy Division

I'm afraid you are wrong there. I own practically everything they ever
put out and have a copuple of books on them, read countless articles.
I have seen New Order and own a number of videos of JD & NO etc...

I think I have a pretty good idea. Its obvious its YOU who have no
idea that they dabbled with NAZI images to be 'cool'!!! 






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atticus@mindspring.com (Andy Walton) wrote:

>In article <55e5tm$9uo@opera.iinet.net.au>, reverend@iinet.net.au wrote:

>  :Eventually they [Jews in Israel]
>  :outnumbered the Arabs to the point that they can massacre them at
>  :will.

>As much as I hate to annoy you with facts...

>Population, 1995 (est.)

>  Israel -- 5,433,134

So wheres the pre 1948 figures. That will show the true state of
affairs when you contarct THEN and NOW. You have only presented half
the facts!!!



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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:
>>>Ever heard "At a Later Date?"  
>
>>Yes - and I have the live version on SHORT CIRCUIT where Albrecht
>>screams at the crowd  'YOU ALL FORGOT RUDOLPH HESS!!'
>
>>Sounds like a Nazi to me.
>
>Grab a clue; Curtis, not Albrecht, screams that, and furthermore, he
>screams that because they were being attacked in the press because of
>their name, when at the same time the press was calling for leniency
>for Hess.
>
>You don't have a clue about New Order or Joy Division
I am afraid it is YOU who is the clueless one Andrew.

In the book AN IDEAL FOR LIVING: An History of Joy Division 
(Proteus Books 1984), Mark Johnson confirms on page 16 that it 
was Bernard Albrecht who shouted out "YOU ALL FORGOT RUDOLPH HESS". 
This book was officially sanctioned by FACTORY supremo Tony Wilson.

I also own the live record and it is clearly BERNARD who shouts 
the comment.

Who knows, at the next live gig by Bernard, we may hear him yell 
"YOU ALL FORGOT GERMAR RUDOLPH!!!!!" Oh - but that's probably 
unlikely in his new santized politically correct incarnation!!! 

The book is quite interesting. It shows the cover of the record 
"An Ideal for Living" which features a HITLER JUGEND drummer boy!! 
I think you know the one i'm talking about .....

The book also featues a poster for a 1979 gig which shows grinning 
German Panzergrenadiers atop a PANZER, gleefully glaring at enemy 
soldiers they have just captured!!!

Also there is a photo of Bernard taken on 11 September 1982 at
a gig in Wales. He is wearing a German Army tee-shirt. The German
Adler stands out clearly. The man just can't help himself can he?

BTW Andrew, how many SKREWDRIVER albums do you own???

>Gee, I own every JD & NO album and have seen them live.
>
>>I think I have a pretty good idea. Its obvious its YOU who have no
>>idea that they dabbled with NAZI images to be 'cool'!!! 
>
>Duh.
>
Ah - the true brain patterns of Andrew Mathis emerge at last!!!
>
>Wrong again, Rev.
>
Yes - you are - aren't you.
>




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libwca@larry.cc.emory.edu (william c anderson) wrote:

>:    What you are saying, in yor terribly sophistocated and subtle way, is
>: that anyone who  questions anything about the Holocaust is A Nazi Who
>: Wants To Kill Six Million Jews, right?


>Just out of curiousity, Bob, how in the hell did you get that out
>of what Dene wrote?  Is this another case of your amazing ability
>to discern what other people really mean even when they don't know
>it, because you've been dealing with Politically Correct Clones
>for decades and know every move in Mommy Professors playbook?

>Or are you just starved for attention today?

OOps  - just as starved of attention as the children in Palestine
receiving their daily dosage of misery from your Israeli Idols.

Billy Boy - you sneer and glower at people who you percive to be
'NAZIS' and yet never a word of condemnation for the REAL NAZI
NETANYAHU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


>Bill




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libwca@larry.cc.emory.edu (william c anderson) wrote:

>:    What you are saying, in yor terribly sophistocated and subtle way, is
>: that anyone who  questions anything about the Holocaust is A Nazi Who
>: Wants To Kill Six Million Jews, right?


>Just out of curiousity, Bob, how in the hell did you get that out
>of what Dene wrote?  Is this another case of your amazing ability
>to discern what other people really mean even when they don't know
>it, because you've been dealing with Politically Correct Clones
>for decades and know every move in Mommy Professors playbook?

>Or are you just starved for attention today?

OOps  - just as starved of attention as the children in Palestine
receiving their daily dosage of misery from your Israeli Idols.

Billy Boy - you sneer and glower at people who you percive to be
'NAZIS' and yet never a word of condemnation for the REAL NAZI
NETANYAHU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


>Bill




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Ursus@sure.net (Ursus Major) wrote:
                                      ... or ...
>You can go to Buchenwald, which even Simon Wiesenthal (no less) admits
>was not an "extermination" camp, and see the photos of those who died
>of typhus and other diseases, as the total collapse of the German
>infrastructure and the non-stop Allied air-attacks on the shipment of
>food and medicine (what there was, which was nearly zero) prevented
>even that from reaching the camps.

>                                                          ... or ...

>You can spare yourself a lot of trouble and visit the Holohoax Temple
>in Washington, DC -- and try for the "Goodthinker of the Week" award.

>                                                        ... or ...


You could also try and keep up with the Israeli policy of Genocide.

Every day some myopic dreamer weeps at the Holocaust memorial, the
blood of Palestinian children is shed.

The sons of Eichmann are alive and well and running Israel.

Open you eyes and your mind might follow!



>You can go to 

>http://www.air-photos.com       and
>http://www.codoh.com

>Maybe then you'll understand why The Holocaust(tm) is called

>               THE HOAX OF THE 20TH CENTURY!

>======================================================


>MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
>      "Ursus Major"




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amatthews@cybercom.net (Allan Matthews) wrote:


>>> In article <327D0EB1.4FD7@conterra.com>, bwhit@conterra.com wrote:
>>> >   No way.  I made my living with political advice, and you better be
>>> >right if you're going to make a living that way.  
>>> 
>>> Given that you're almost always wrong I doubt this is how you actually make 
>>> your "living."  
>>
>>Notice that he used the *past* tense.

>Ok, you're right; he did.  So just look at my questions as asking about his 
>past and not his present.   Or can't your mighty Aryan brain handle that?
>The fact the Booby has remained silent on his politcal and academic 
>experiences only lends credence to my supposition that his has none to speak 
>of.  

A ha ha ha ha ha.

If Mr Whitaker was to actually tell you who his clients are, its not
as if you wouldn't try and contact them or anything??

Its well documented that the forces of Political Correctness have the
ability to get people the sack.

What do you think of Germar Rudoplh Mr Mathews? If he wasn't shat on
>from  a great height by the forces of PC - who was?



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kate@accessone.com (Kathleen Mulhern) wrote:

>*In article <559m6d$a5e@is05.micron.net> sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) writes:
>*
>*>No need to "loving" Jim.  There is no physical evidence.  It is all
>*>eyewitness testimony, much of it from Germans tortured, put on trial
>*>to testify, and then summarily hanged.  Hardly the circumstances to
>*>permit truth to emerge.

>Hey idiot... if you knew anything about the history profession, you'd know
>that eyewitness evidence is the most sought after primary source
>material.  You are so boring.  Really.

Hmm - do you really have to resort to insults?? 

Historians (or at least GOOD Historians) view eyewitness testimony as
a mere snapshot. They are aware that bias, elaboration and emotion
often distort the true picture.

It may be sought after, but it should be placed under the utmost
scrutiny.

>-- 
>kate@accessone.com

>"Phillip Morris Denies Cigarettes Are Cylindrical."
>          -Headline from "The Onion."




From reverend@iinet.net.au Sat Nov  9 05:55:39 PST 1996
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From: reverend@iinet.net.au (AgamemnoN)
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libwca@larry.cc.emory.edu (william c anderson) wrote:

>:    What you are saying, in yor terribly sophistocated and subtle way, is
>: that anyone who  questions anything about the Holocaust is A Nazi Who
>: Wants To Kill Six Million Jews, right?


>Just out of curiousity, Bob, how in the hell did you get that out
>of what Dene wrote?  Is this another case of your amazing ability
>to discern what other people really mean even when they don't know
>it, because you've been dealing with Politically Correct Clones
>for decades and know every move in Mommy Professors playbook?

>Or are you just starved for attention today?

OOps  - just as starved of attention as the children in Palestine
receiving their daily dosage of misery from your Israeli Idols.

Billy Boy - you sneer and glower at people who you percive to be
'NAZIS' and yet never a word of condemnation for the REAL NAZI
NETANYAHU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


>Bill




From reverend@iinet.net.au Sun Nov 10 06:54:05 PST 1996
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From: reverend@iinet.net.au (AgamemnoN)
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>Bob Whitaker  wrote:
>>AgamemnoN wrote:

>>> No, he thinks the magic letters 'OBC' will fill us with awe. How can
>>> we compete against such a highly respected and honoured man?!?
>>> 
>>> Whats that stand for - Order of the British Crown???  Isn't  this the
>>> same Crown that sent convicts to Australia for stealing loaves of
>>> bread and then killed heaps of Aborigines??? Yup - sure is.

>Uh no, Peter, OBC stands for Order of British Columbia.  British
>Columbia is a province in Canada.

Ah well - I got that wrong. Still, it doesn't hide the fact that the
man is using his initials to attempt to gain credibility and respect. 

The question isn't 'What did Kenny boy DO' to get his badge, but 'WHO
DID HE KNOW that got him his badge'. 

He is pretty damned selective with his version of the truth (as others
are guilty of, i might admit). But his Holier than Thou attitude is
sickening to say the least!!! 

>>    When people put PhD or OBC or "Colonel" on the net, they are more to
>>be pitied htan censured.  They can't argue their case, so they put up
>>their credentials.

>Gee, Mr. Whit, that must be why you made it widely known in May, when
>someone flamed you on your lousy writing, that you are a PhD.



>"If I can't dance.....I don't want to be part of your revolution."
>          Emma Goldman






From reverend@iinet.net.au Sun Nov 10 07:01:59 PST 1996
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libwca@larry.cc.emory.edu (william c anderson) wrote:

>:    What you are saying, in yor terribly sophistocated and subtle way, is
>: that anyone who  questions anything about the Holocaust is A Nazi Who
>: Wants To Kill Six Million Jews, right?


>Just out of curiousity, Bob, how in the hell did you get that out
>of what Dene wrote?  Is this another case of your amazing ability
>to discern what other people really mean even when they don't know
>it, because you've been dealing with Politically Correct Clones
>for decades and know every move in Mommy Professors playbook?

>Or are you just starved for attention today?

OOps  - just as starved of attention as the children in Palestine
receiving their daily dosage of misery from your Israeli Idols.

Billy Boy - you sneer and glower at people who you percive to be
'NAZIS' and yet never a word of condemnation for the REAL NAZI
NETANYAHU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


>Bill




From reverend@iinet.net.au Sun Nov 10 07:02:00 PST 1996
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From: reverend@iinet.net.au (AgamemnoN)
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Subject: Re: blood sucking BRIAN SMITH, and other idiots
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Ursus@sure.net (Ursus Major) wrote:
                                      ... or ...
>You can go to Buchenwald, which even Simon Wiesenthal (no less) admits
>was not an "extermination" camp, and see the photos of those who died
>of typhus and other diseases, as the total collapse of the German
>infrastructure and the non-stop Allied air-attacks on the shipment of
>food and medicine (what there was, which was nearly zero) prevented
>even that from reaching the camps.

>                                                          ... or ...

>You can spare yourself a lot of trouble and visit the Holohoax Temple
>in Washington, DC -- and try for the "Goodthinker of the Week" award.

>                                                        ... or ...


You could also try and keep up with the Israeli policy of Genocide.

Every day some myopic dreamer weeps at the Holocaust memorial, the
blood of Palestinian children is shed.

The sons of Eichmann are alive and well and running Israel.

Open you eyes and your mind might follow!



>You can go to 

>http://www.air-photos.com       and
>http://www.codoh.com

>Maybe then you'll understand why The Holocaust(tm) is called

>               THE HOAX OF THE 20TH CENTURY!

>======================================================


>MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
>      "Ursus Major"




From reverend@iinet.net.au Sun Nov 10 07:02:01 PST 1996
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From: reverend@iinet.net.au (AgamemnoN)
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amatthews@cybercom.net (Allan Matthews) wrote:


>>> In article <327D0EB1.4FD7@conterra.com>, bwhit@conterra.com wrote:
>>> >   No way.  I made my living with political advice, and you better be
>>> >right if you're going to make a living that way.  
>>> 
>>> Given that you're almost always wrong I doubt this is how you actually make 
>>> your "living."  
>>
>>Notice that he used the *past* tense.

>Ok, you're right; he did.  So just look at my questions as asking about his 
>past and not his present.   Or can't your mighty Aryan brain handle that?
>The fact the Booby has remained silent on his politcal and academic 
>experiences only lends credence to my supposition that his has none to speak 
>of.  

A ha ha ha ha ha.

If Mr Whitaker was to actually tell you who his clients are, its not
as if you wouldn't try and contact them or anything??

Its well documented that the forces of Political Correctness have the
ability to get people the sack.

What do you think of Germar Rudoplh Mr Mathews? If he wasn't shat on
>from  a great height by the forces of PC - who was?



From reverend@iinet.net.au Sat Nov 16 07:00:06 PST 1996
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dredd  wrote:

>This is the first time for nearly a century that singers are

>going to get jailed for their opinions.

Opionions - or money?????

WARNER BRUDDERS love ICE-T.

Cop-KILLA?? Yo ICE - write some more Muddafukkin raps like dat man!!!!

Fuck da lot'y'ass - Our Shareholders and our investments means a
GAAHDAMNN more than our MuddAfuGGkin integridy!!!!

Sneer at de whiyey - he'll lap it up. de more ya sneer at hiz skinny
white asss, de more heeel buy yer recurds - dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


>Reactions are welcome. Watch out, or you'll be next !

Ooooh im scared!!!!

>Dredd







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jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:

The only thing different between Brian Smith and Jim Walsh is that
Brian Smith has the ability to QUESTION and Jimbo has has the ability
to CONSUME!!!

It is quite and absolutely irrelevant whether All Brian's facts are
100% correct, but by his true nature, he willl constantly revise these
facts untill a finite conclusion is obtained. If presented with
another revised factsheet of statistics he will no doubt honestly
present these.

The same can not be said for the PC fools who sneer at him.

Alas for Jim Walsh. He will follow dogma - and that is that!!!!



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sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>an_american wrote:

>>Why can't you assholes just give it up? THAT'S the question.

>>-an_american

>That's right.  Let's just "give it up" and let the White race go down
>the sewage drainpipe of history.  No big loss, right?

The thing that makes me sick is these RACE TRAITORS. As we all know,
they'll be the first ones bleating when their myopic world crumbles in
dissillusion.

Its a funny thing these 'mixers', for all their
pro-lets-mix-with-all-races-hey-they're-just-like-u-n-me,
you'll never find them investing money in property where the 'ones
they love'
lurk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


>Brian Smith
>www.natall.com







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hmazal@txdirect.net (Harry W. Mazal OBE) wrote:

>>>       My God, he has an OBE and he speaks Spanish!
>>       Is everybody deeply, deeply impressed?

>Mr. Whitaker is simply envious. As one who is barely cogent in English
>he fears those who have acquired honours and languages. How very
>pitiful [to use his own word.].

Really?

The thing that seperates YOU from Mr Whitaker is that he has the
ability to question, wheras you have the ability to consume.

>Harry W. Mazal OBE

Are they selling degrees now harry?????


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