The Nizkor Project: Remembering the Holocaust (Shoah)

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From: reverend@iinet.net.au (AgamemnoN)
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Subject: Re: DAVID IRVING: LET HIM IN
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rcgraves@ix.netcom.com (Rich Graves) wrote:

>reverend@iinet.net.au writes:
>>
>>The Editorial of the Sunday Times (Sep 29, 1996) (Western Australia)
>>has the following editorial.

>This is a lie. You see, some other white-power ranger had already
>accurately identified the text as a David Irving press release, not an
>an editorial. Please try to get your stories straight.

>-rich

You are a DICKHEAD.

I got it STRAIGHT from the paper.

YOU ARE THE LIAR

Write to them, or ring them.



From reverend@iinet.net.au Fri Oct  4 17:24:35 PDT 1996
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From: reverend@iinet.net.au (AgamemnoN)
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Subject: Re: DAVID IRVING to tour Australia????
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ncrccjc@ibm.net (Bernie Farber) wrote:


>>>>>IRVING TACKLES PM ON SPEECH
>>>>>
>>>>>Right-Wing British historian David Irving has challenged Prime
>>>>>Minister John Howard to back his claims on freedom of speech by
>>>>>allowing him to visit Australia.

>Bernie Farber responds:

>For accuracy , David irving has described himself as a "mild fascist".
>Again for accuracy sake, referring to David irving as a "historian", is
>really insulting to all th legitimate academic historians out there.
>David irving should be referred to as a "holocaust denier".

However he spends a great deal of time pouring and 'sifting' archival
material which other Historians will not do. He will not accept
stories as 'apocyphal' which others will conveniently do because they
are too lazy.

His only crime may be to have a certain 'point of view' but do other
diametrically opposed historians such as Martin Gilbert do anytrhing
different?

Yes - I saw Irving on a documentary giving a speech in Germany to a
mob of cheering Skinheads, but that means nothing. Jimmy Pursey from
Sham 69 was plagued by NF violence for some time, and that in no way
reflected on his own political views.


 





From reverend@iinet.net.au Fri Oct  4 17:48:17 PDT 1996
Article: 45714 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: reverend@iinet.net.au (AgamemnoN)
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Subject: Hypothetical MARCH OF RACISTS
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Image this. (hum along to the John Lennon tune if you feel like it
..)

If all the racists in the world were to march in unison you would
surely see a bizzare sight.

You'd see White people yelling about the way the blacks and jEwS have
wrecked our countries, You'd have Blacks bellowing about the terrible
while honkeys who have enslaved them stolen their land, You'd have
JeWs wailing incessantly about what the Germans and Palistinians have
alledgedly done to them (and vise-versa) , And thats not all. You'd
have Tamils taunting Hindu's, Zulus attacjking other blacks etc etc 

What a march - and yet all of them would be all racists.

Its not just the White race who is racist. In actual fact, its simply
a knee-jerk reaction againt the hate which is hurled against them
constantly, day in - day out.

At this point in history, the White Race is being bludgeoned into
believing that they should be guilty about the crimes our forefathers
did.

It has become an industry of guilt.

What sort of shit is that. Do the Israelis suffers from guilt about
their beloved Irgun and Stern gangs? I think not. Without their
murdorous forefathers they would'nt be living the good life while
Palistinian children get slaughtered.

Do-Gooders should get their Rose-Colored glasses off. They're only
that color because of the blood splashed on them.


Peter - reverend@iinet.net.au




From reverend@iinet.net.au Fri Oct  4 17:55:04 PDT 1996
Article: 103890 of alt.censorship
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griffith@netcom.com (Jim Griffith) wrote:


>No one has ever disputed that the law edists or that it is real.  What they
>dispute is whether the law does or should apply to forged cancels.  Regardless
>of one's stance, the relevant law enforcement officials have stated that they
>have no interest in enforcing that law as it might apply to forged cancels,
>which, as far as I'm concerned, answers the question.

>Ready now?  Everyone repeat the news admin's mantra:

>		No one in the real world cares about USENET.

>		No one in the real world cares about USENET.

>		No one in the real world cares about USENET.

>				Jim

What about the scanned JPEGS that flood the binary groups. They are in
obvious breach of copyright. Certain individuals spend a lot of time
scanning magazines that would obviously have a copyright either to the
photographer or the publisher, yet they receive no royalties.

Considering that USA chucked such a stink that the Chinese had a
flourishing industry of bootlegged software and music etc, I would
have thought that there would indeed be many interested parties.

Nothing hurts more that the thought that money is not ending up in the
correct pockets. Ie - their own.

Cheers - Peter

>-- 
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Jim Griffith  /--OO--\     | Two great powers are on our side: the power of
>griffith@netcom.com        | Love and the power of Arithmetic.  These two are
>BEWARE BATS WITHOUT NOSES! | stronger than anything else in the world.




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griffith@netcom.com (Jim Griffith) wrote:


>No one has ever disputed that the law edists or that it is real.  What they
>dispute is whether the law does or should apply to forged cancels.  Regardless
>of one's stance, the relevant law enforcement officials have stated that they
>have no interest in enforcing that law as it might apply to forged cancels,
>which, as far as I'm concerned, answers the question.

>Ready now?  Everyone repeat the news admin's mantra:

>		No one in the real world cares about USENET.

>		No one in the real world cares about USENET.

>		No one in the real world cares about USENET.

>				Jim

What about the scanned JPEGS that flood the binary groups. They are in
obvious breach of copyright. Certain individuals spend a lot of time
scanning magazines that would obviously have a copyright either to the
photographer or the publisher, yet they receive no royalties.

Considering that USA chucked such a stink that the Chinese had a
flourishing industry of bootlegged software and music etc, I would
have thought that there would indeed be many interested parties.

Nothing hurts more that the thought that money is not ending up in the
correct pockets. Ie - their own.

Cheers - Peter

>-- 
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Jim Griffith  /--OO--\     | Two great powers are on our side: the power of
>griffith@netcom.com        | Love and the power of Arithmetic.  These two are
>BEWARE BATS WITHOUT NOSES! | stronger than anything else in the world.




From reverend@iinet.net.au Sun Oct  6 08:48:30 PDT 1996
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:

>In article <52tdik$1n1@opera.iinet.net.au>, reverend@iinet.net.au wrote:

>>You are a DICKHEAD.

>Mr. Wheeler demonstrates once again that "revisionist
>scholars" never insult people.

Wherever did you get the idea that I am a revisionist. Check your own
archives buddy-boy?  The facts are that I posted a true article and
one of your PC buddies posted a blatant lie refuting that article.

BTW - Are flairs and tie-died tee-shirts which reek of mothballs back
in yet kenny? Did you model your image on Hugh Hefner by any chance?



>To think we doubted!


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From reverend@iinet.net.au Sun Oct  6 09:11:05 PDT 1996
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bp@artcom.net (Bill Pruden) wrote:

>For organizers Louis Farrakhan and Benjamin Chavis, the event was as much
>an organizational flop as their Million Man March was an organizational
>success. They had hoped that 20,000 or more would attend, but only a few
>thousand came.

>Black political leaders stayed away in droves, from Mayor Freeman Bosley
>Jr. and Rep. William L. Clay to Jesse Jackson. The organizers had asked
>the presidential candidates to address the convention, but the only one
>who showed was Lyndon LaRouche, the perennial candidate and conspiracy
>theorist. He was hooted down.

Even Lou Reed has got Jesse Jackson sussed out. Listen to the song
"Good Evening Mr Waldheim".  He may have prefered not to have been
seen at the march but only because of political expediency.



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Gloria Burnett  wrote:


>You are forgetting that there are many evil people of every color and
>Did you chose what color you wanted to be?????  The Creator made all
>things and He made them for Himself that all living things should praise
>Him, even the trees. And He provided a WAY for you to be made perfect
>and live an eternal life without any more sickness and sorrow.  If you
>are angry about the way you have been treated in you life, Heavenly
>Father can remove that anger.


How do you account for the shafting Satan got from your all-forgiving
creator. He made him, thus obviously inventing the "flaws" in his
nature and then banished the poor guy to an eternity of torment in
Hell. Surely the logical conclusion is that God should banish himself
to Hell as well.

 I mean, he must have liked poor old Satan at some stage, why not try
a bit of reconciliation?

How about he descend down to the pit of flames, put out his hand and
say "Lets shake hands Satan - lets give our friendship another go"
Stop the petty squabbling and bickering.



  



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Gloria Burnett  wrote:


>You are forgetting that there are many evil people of every color and
>Did you chose what color you wanted to be?????  The Creator made all
>things and He made them for Himself that all living things should praise
>Him, even the trees. And He provided a WAY for you to be made perfect
>and live an eternal life without any more sickness and sorrow.  If you
>are angry about the way you have been treated in you life, Heavenly
>Father can remove that anger.


How do you account for the shafting Satan got from your all-forgiving
creator. He made him, thus obviously inventing the "flaws" in his
nature and then banished the poor guy to an eternity of torment in
Hell. Surely the logical conclusion is that God should banish himself
to Hell as well.

 I mean, he must have liked poor old Satan at some stage, why not try
a bit of reconciliation?

How about he descend down to the pit of flames, put out his hand and
say "Lets shake hands Satan - lets give our friendship another go"
Stop the petty squabbling and bickering.



  



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Gloria Burnett  wrote:


>You are forgetting that there are many evil people of every color and
>Did you chose what color you wanted to be?????  The Creator made all
>things and He made them for Himself that all living things should praise
>Him, even the trees. And He provided a WAY for you to be made perfect
>and live an eternal life without any more sickness and sorrow.  If you
>are angry about the way you have been treated in you life, Heavenly
>Father can remove that anger.


How do you account for the shafting Satan got from your all-forgiving
creator. He made him, thus obviously inventing the "flaws" in his
nature and then banished the poor guy to an eternity of torment in
Hell. Surely the logical conclusion is that God should banish himself
to Hell as well.

 I mean, he must have liked poor old Satan at some stage, why not try
a bit of reconciliation?

How about he descend down to the pit of flames, put out his hand and
say "Lets shake hands Satan - lets give our friendship another go"
Stop the petty squabbling and bickering.



  



From reverend@iinet.net.au Sun Oct  6 18:04:35 PDT 1996
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Gloria Burnett  wrote:


>You are forgetting that there are many evil people of every color and
>Did you chose what color you wanted to be?????  The Creator made all
>things and He made them for Himself that all living things should praise
>Him, even the trees. And He provided a WAY for you to be made perfect
>and live an eternal life without any more sickness and sorrow.  If you
>are angry about the way you have been treated in you life, Heavenly
>Father can remove that anger.


How do you account for the shafting Satan got from your all-forgiving
creator. He made him, thus obviously inventing the "flaws" in his
nature and then banished the poor guy to an eternity of torment in
Hell. Surely the logical conclusion is that God should banish himself
to Hell as well.

 I mean, he must have liked poor old Satan at some stage, why not try
a bit of reconciliation?

How about he descend down to the pit of flames, put out his hand and
say "Lets shake hands Satan - lets give our friendship another go"
Stop the petty squabbling and bickering.



  



From reverend@iinet.net.au Tue Oct 15 07:58:38 PDT 1996
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Rich Graves  wrote:

>reverend@iinet.net.au (AgamemnoN) wrote:
>> 
>> Hello people.
>> 
>> I found another article from the West Australian (09/10/96):
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> GROUP PLEADS IRVING'S CASE      (Melbourne)
>> 
>> A CIVIL liberties group has urged Prime Minister John Howard to
>> demonstrate his devotion to free speech and allow controversial
>> historian David Irving into Australia.
>> 
>> Australian Civil Liberties Union secretary Geoff Muirden

>BWAHAHAHA!!!

>Is the West Australian a real paper? It would be very disappointing if 
>someone with serious journalistic credentials actually described the 
>"Australian Civil Liberties Union," a far-right front group similar to 
>the "Canadian Free Speech League," as a civil liberties organization.

Yes - a real paper with a real address. Here is some info for you if
you disbelieve:

Editor, WA NEWSPAPERS:  Private Bag 54
			      GPO Perth 6001
			      Western Australia

Email:  Letters@wanews.com.au

If you've got any complaints, take them there.

By the way, you're pretty cheeky having a sneer at poor journalism and
in the same breath, promote the biased propaganda of Nizkor.


>Someone deserves a George Orwell Award. See 
>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/b/botting.gary
Spam-Spam-Spam

>-rich




From reverend@iinet.net.au Thu Oct 17 07:43:20 PDT 1996
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teknowil@intellinet.com (teknowil) wrote:

>>
>i wish u was there too. U aren't too bright.1 ignorant racist 
>surrounded by 1 million angry black men,i'd like to have seen that.

I bet you got a kick out of seeing Reginald Denny getting a good
beating Mr Teknowil.



From reverend@iinet.net.au Fri Oct 18 16:55:00 PDT 1996
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THE SICKENING HYPOCRISY OF ANDREW MATHIS

Imagine my shock when I visited the WWW Home Page of Andrew Matthis, 
who had been Spamming newsgroups constantly with his address. After my

nausea subsided at seeing a photograph of him, I discovered a curious 
fact. Andrew Matthis does in fact love Nazis.

You see, Mr Matthis had a list of his favourite records, and there at
Number 3 was the band NEW ORDER (who of course arose from the ashes of
the band JOY DIVISION).

Now here are some interesting facts about Andy's fave band:

1) NEW ORDER is a National Socialist term coined by Hilters NSDAP. 
   There's no ambiguity here - a Nazi name for a band inspired by
   National Socialism. Hmm - I wonder if the band was always so 
   enamoured with Adolph and his chums.... (lets take a look at fact
   number two!)

2) Oh deah - It sure looks like the Band DID indeed love Nazi's. Here
   is a quote by well respected Rock Writer Greil Marcus from his book

   "In the Fascist Bathroom" (Penguin - 1993)

       "New Order emerged from the ruins of a late-1970s band
        from Manchester, England, called Joy Division - a name Nazis
        gave to the concentration camp brothels they stocked with
        female slaves."

   Hmm - I wonder if the thought of those Jewish women being raped
   bothers Andy. I bet it didn't bother the members of the band JOY
   DIVISION - I reckon they would have had a good snigger over the 
   name, and what it represents. Hey who knows, maybe Randy (Oops - I 
   meant  ANDY) gets his kicks from the very same idea? I wouldn't 
   know - but  I do know that there is no ambiguity in the naming of 
   the band  JOY DIVISION.

   What about for a name of a band "ARBEIT MACHT FREI"? - Is that a
   'COOL' name or what Andy? Or if thats not 'ZANY' enough for you,
   how about "THE HYPOCRICY OF THE JEW" - Is that name a Gas or what??
   But hey, whats the problem - Its only a name right??? Its just
   Rawk N Roll fer Chrissakes!!! Wooooh! (Ummm - I got another for you
   - "KILL THE PALISTINIANS AND WHEN ANYONE NOTICES MENTION THE 
      HOLOCAUST"  ....A bit long isn't, but you get the idea don't 
      you? - the band  members whom you admire so much certainly  
      DID!!)

3) Hmm - its a bit quiet in this room as I type out this saga - I  
    think I'll play a record... Ah - here's one - its a 10" vinyl 
    record called  SHORT CIRCUIT (Virgin VCL 5003). And guess what - 
    its got a live song  by Joy Division on it. I am suddenly shocked 
    into disbelief. What the hell was that??? Luckily I have a book 
    with the lyrics handy...

   Whats this I see when I examine the lyrics to "AT A LATER DATE"
   Before the song starts, Bernhard Albrecht shouted to the crowd 
   "YOU ALL FORGOT RUDOLPH HESS!!" Hmmm, it seems that Bernard likes 
   Mr Hess to the point he will abuse others who dont. This came as no

   surprise  considering that during the early days of Joy Division he

   modelled his look entirely on the National Socialist Brown Shirts. 
   Do you like that song Andrew?? Do you sing along with Bernard and 
   Ian Curtis??? 

Well I guess that about wraps it up. Andrew may well plead ignorance, 
but that is stretching credibility a bit too far as he lays claim to 
be a highly intelligent, well read person. But now he knows better - 
and the question has to be asked - what will he do about it???

The obvious conclusion is:
IF ANDREW DOES NOT REMOVE 'NEW ORDER' FROM HIS LIST OF FAVOURITE BANDS

THAT WILL BE A CLEAR SIGN HE SUPPORTS AND ADMIRES NAZIS.

BTW - His Hateful pages live here:
        http://pages.nyu.edu/~aem0608

Who knows, soon he may have the mighty SKREWDRIVER and RAHOWA on his
list of favourites - and this WWW listing:

        http://www.resistance.com       (Home of Resistance Records)
        
Amen and Good Night. 

Peter   (reverend@iinet.net.au)









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libwca@curly.cc.emory.edu (william c anderson) wrote:

>yourname (username@shsu.edu) wrote:

>: Actually I am not STUPID enough to write my real name. 

>Mmm-hmm. Because the JOOS would git you, right?

Hmm - not bad Billy Boy...

However - the poster is simply aware that there are certain groups
archiving every little utterance on the 'net' to store for their own
political gain.  

Being a racist these days seems worse than murdering people (oops -
sorry - I forgot OJ was found not guilty!!)

>Be sure to adjust the tinfoil before you go to sleep tonight, 
>Fruitcake.  We're upping the wattage on the mind control lasers...

>Bill





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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>As for the Russians who died in the War (20 million, all told), isn't
>it for Russia to acknowledge these deaths?  And, I believe, by and
>large, they have, as has the world community.  Unfortunately, were it
>not for Hitler's attacking the Soviet population, they wouldn't have
>occurred, like the Holocaust.

What about the fact that 2 weeks after Germany invaded Poland, Russia
also invaded from the East and they carved up the country between
them. So much for poor peaceful Russia. Have you never heard of Katyn
Wood?? How many of those 20 million were murdered by Stalin???

If Hitler hadn't attacked Russia, you can bet that at some stage,the
increasingly paranoid Joseph Stalin would have attacked Germany.


>>Brian Smith
>>www.natall.com

>I see we're a National Alliance supporter.  Do you kill babies too?

>=================================================================

>Shining a flashlight on the ugly underside of the 'net: http://www.webmagazine.com/Features/Hate/splash.html
spam ..
>What's new with Frente?  http://www.nj.com/maxwells/july96/frente.html
spam ...
>The Homepage that made Milwaukee famous: http://pages.nyu.edu/~aem0608
spam ...
>"Panu derech Hashem"
>--Yeshayahu 40:3





From reverend@iinet.net.au Sat Oct 26 09:36:48 PDT 1996
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sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>The Holocaust is the Jews' moral weapon to make people feel guilty and
>thus stifle ANY criticism of Jews.  That way Jews can get away with
>whatever action they wish, whether it getting more money for Israel or
>massacring more Palestinians.  

I am neither IN nor OUT of the Revisionist camp. I have not done
enough research or reading to have a definite opinion. I have read
Leuchter and Rudolph and they do seem plausible, but since I am no
chemist or expert I guess I have to refrain from having a firm stance.

(I might also add that Rudolph's credibility improved when they sent
him to prison. He could have denounced his OPINION in order to avoid
his fate, but chose to stick to his OPINION). Freedom of speech??? Ah
ha ha ha ha ha. 

HOWEVER, one definite fact is obvious, and this is the one that Brian
Smith makes above. Anyone who stifles criticism of Jews is
automatically labelled as ant-semetic.

And this is well documented if anyone out there wishes to brand ME as
an ant-semite!! 

....Also Nizkor is a prime-example of SELECTIVE free speech. 
Sometimes its not what they tell you, but what they omit that
counts!!!


>Brian Smith
>www.natall.com





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pnosko@nmaa.org (Peter Nosko) wrote:

>---
>Peter Nosko, Germantown, MD
>Race is a Pigment of the Imagination

No my friend, Race is used to prop up a multi-million dollar industry
where white people have to pay for 'crimes' committed by their dead
fore-fathers.

Its not my imagination when i see my taxes going out to prop up
self-serving organizations.

I have recently slaved my guts out to earn enough money to put a
deposit down for my own house. But then I am told I have STOLEN THEIR
LAND!!!!






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bjjanssen@ucdavis.edu (Bhaskar Sinha) wrote:

>he's right, it was closer to 7 Million...
>or did they just get "relocated in the east", neil?

I would like to know the number of PALESTINIANS 'RELOCATED' please!!!

Surely our beloved Zionists keep such records!?!

Or did the Irgun and Sterrn Gang 'freedom fighters' burn their
records?!?


>In article <54hbnv$lnp@scratchy.mosquito.com>, gimp@interstat.net (fuckup)
>wrote:

>> God dammit.  You sure are PC.  I wish I was as PC as you.  I really
>> do.  Not only do you criticize the right in this little story you also
>> critcize the left.  I love it.  No one in the world is as liberal or
>> as PC as you are.  Dammit,  everyone is a closet neo-Nazi and we just
>> needed you to point it out.  Thanks...thanks a lot.
>> 
>> Hmmmm...There was one thing that I found amusing about your story.
>> You seem to call everyone stupid, but you can't spell Hitler's first
>> name correctly.  IT'S ADOLF YOU DUMB FUCK.  Read up on the man before
>> you use his name.
>> 
>> Oh yeah, I almost forgot: 6 MILLION JEWS DIDN'T DIE IN WWII.




From reverend@iinet.net.au Sun Oct 27 01:02:20 PDT 1996
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What a tolerant man, Ken McVay is. Here is my LAST exchange  from
the man who promotes peace, dialogue and harmony!!!!.......

Ken had posted a hateful, biased rant against Tom Metzger with his
usual naiive panache. Alas I had the nerve to reply directly to him,
instead of the newsgroups ...........
> 
> Dear me Kenny, you have just caused another hundred people to join
> WAR!!
> 
> When it comes to uniforms, maybe Black IS better than white!!!!

>>Whatever. In the future, Mr. Wheeler, do not send any electronic mail 
>>to this address.  It is neither solicited nor acceptable, and
>>will be automatically forwarded to abuse@iinet.net.au without
>>human intervention.

Not ACCEPTABLE??? BECAUSE I HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW??? 

Ah well, that is the lot of NIZKOR - its either follow the creed of
guilt or get out!!!!

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.............. free and open discussion with the man???.... And to
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From reverend@iinet.net.au Sun Oct 27 01:02:20 PDT 1996
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ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS		By Peter Wheeler (24/10/96)
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A lot is written by Revisionists. And a lot is written about 
Revisionists by their detractors. People will often write and say
things (for whatever motive) but their actions damn them much more 
than their words can ever hope to. 

This article contrasts two aspects of Revisionism: The Revisionist 
who re-writes history in order to conceal the truth, and the
Revisionist who re-writes history in order to reveal the truth.

1948 was not a good year to be living in Palestine. Murder, terror
and bloodshed were rampant - and the most ferocious of these vile and
barbarous acts were carried out by the Zionist Irgun and Stern gangs.
In 1948 things had gotten so bad that the Jewish run Palestine Post 
declared: 'Nothing can condone the action of the Jewish dissident 
organisations in entering the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killing 
many of the inhabitants, men, women and children. No explanation, 
no excuse, can wipe out the stains. Deir Yassins may or may not strike

terror into the hearts of the Arabs. They bring horror into Jewish 
hearts - that is the twofold crime.'

Its is curious that for a people who were so revolted with the
loathsome murderous nature of these terrorists that they managed to
elect two Israeli Prime Ministers from their ranks: Menachem Begin and
Yitzhak Shamir. 

I will present to you another incident which will throw into light the
nature of Historical Revisionists.

If you go back a few years, a similar atrocity occurred in 1942 in the
village of Lidice. Obergruppenfuhrer Reinhard Heydrich had been
assasinated by the Czech Resistance. In reprisal, the SS shot all the
male inhabitants of Lidice. Heinz Hohne reveals the shady nature of
this event in his book 'Order of the Deaths Head'. 'After the war the
British Labour MP, R.T.Paget, pronounced "Partisans often deliberately
provoke reprisals in order that hatred of the occupier may be
intensified and more people may be induced to resist. This was our
general idea when we flew in a party to murder Heydrich in
Czechoslovakia. The main Czech resistance movement was the
direct result of the consequent SS reprisals."

I think R.T.Paget could be classified as a Revisionist by revealing
the  true nature of the events surrounding Heydrich's Death. This of
course would have been foolish to reveal at the time. He has however
told the truth regarding this incident. Without fear of the hatred he
could incur, he bravely told the world the real reason why the people
of Lidice were sacrificed.

On the other hand, we have the other type of Revisionist in the form
of Shamir who has deliberately sought to obfuscate his role in the 
atrocities which happened to the Palestinian people.

Shamir wrote in his memoirs that murder 'was conceived in Jerusalem 
by Lehi members more or less independently' (note: Lehi = Stern Gang)
Shamir who was a member of the Stern Gang's three-man Central
Committee doesn't appear to have been telling the truth. Historian
Martin Gilbert reveals in his book, 'Jerusalem in the Twentieth
Century' that murder was "decided at a meeting by the Stern Gang's
Central Committe, at which Shamir was present." So you can see here
that Shamir was indeed a master of Revisionism. He has re-written his
role and his motives are obvious.

I find it very curious that whilst the Jews were prepared to
elect these bloodthirsty men to the highest position in Israel, 
these same people clamour for the silencing of other modern
Revisionist Historians. They can conveniently ignore some untruths,
but go into paroxysms of rage over statements made by people like
Germar Rudolph and David Irving. The only crime I can think of that
these two men may have committed is sceptisism. However, Rudolph was
actually jailed for merely expressing his opinion. Contrast this to
Shamir and Begin whose crimes were much more heinous, yet they were
rewarded by these very same people.

It is obvious that historians should indeed constantly revise and 
question historical facts. Just as David Irving and Arthur Butz should

be subject to scrutiny. However, if you silence these questioning
voices (as well as those who seek to counter their arguments), you
condemn people to accepting sanitized versions of history.

What is that much quoted cliche again? 
You know the one ... its an old chessnut....A little hoary perhaps,
but it makes for a great concluding line ......

        "He who controls the past controls the future...
         He who controls the future controls the past ...."















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THE SICKENING HYPOCRISY OF ANDREW MATHIS

Imagine my shock when I visited the WWW Home Page of Andrew Mathis,
who had been Spamming newsgroups constantly with his address. After my
nausea  subsided at seeing a photograph of him, I discovered a curious
fact. Andrew Mathis does in fact love Nazis.

You see, Mr Mathis had a list of his favourite records, and there at
Number 3 was the band NEW ORDER (who of course arose from the ashes of
the band JOY DIVISION).

Now here are some interesting facts about Andy's fave band:

1) NEW ORDER is a National Socialist term coined by Hilters NSDAP. 
   There's no ambiguity here - a Nazi name for a band inspired by
   National Socialism. Hmm - I wonder if the band was always so 
   enamoured with Adolph and his chums.... (lets take a look at fact
   number two!)

2) Oh deah - It sure looks like the Band DID indeed love Nazi's. Here
   is a quote by well respected Rock Writer Greil Marcus from his book

   "In the Fascist Bathroom" (Penguin - 1993)

       "New Order emerged from the ruins of a late-1970s band
        from Manchester, England, called Joy Division - a name Nazis
        gave to the concentration camp brothels they stocked with
        female slaves."

   Hmm - I wonder if the thought of those Jewish women being raped
   bothers Andy. I bet it didn't bother the members of the band JOY
   DIVISION - I reckon they would have had a good snigger over the
name,   and what it represents. Hey who knows, maybe Randy (Oops - I
meant   ANDY) gets his kicks from the very same idea? I wouldn't know
- but   I do know that there is no ambiguity in the naming of the band

   JOY DIVISION.

   What about for a name of a band "ARBEIT MACHT FREI"? - Is that a
   'COOL' name or what Andy? Or if thats not 'ZANY' enough for you,
   how about "THE HYPOCRICY OF THE JEW" - Is that name a Gas or what??
   But hey, whats the problem - Its only a name right??? Its just
   Rawk N Roll fer Chrissakes!!! Wooooh! (Ummm - I got another for you
-
   "KILL THE PALISTINIANS AND WHEN ANYONE NOTICES MENTION THE
HOLOCAUST"   ....A bit long isn't, but you get the idea don't you? -
the band   members whom you admire so much certainly DID!!)

3) Hmm - its a bit quiet in this room as I type out this saga - I
think   I'll play a record... Ah - here's one - its a 10" vinyl record
called    SHORT CIRCUIT (Virgin VCL 5003). And guess what - its got a
live song    by Joy Division on it. I am suddenly shocked into
disbelief. What the hell  was that??? Luckily I have a book with the
lyrics handy...

   Whats this I see when I examine the lyrics to "AT A LATER DATE"
   Before the song starts, Bernhard Albrecht shouted to the crowd 
   "YOU ALL FORGOT RUDOLPH HESS!!" Hmmm, it seems that Bernard likes
Mr    Hess to the point he will abuse others who dont. This came as no
surprise    considering that during the early days of Joy Division he
modelled his    look entirely on the National Socialist Brown Shirts.
Do you like that   song Andrew?? Do you sing along with Bernard and
Ian Curtis??? 

Well I guess that about wraps it up. Andrew may well plead ignorance,
but that is stretching credibility a bit too far as he lays claim to
be ahighly intelligent, well read person. But now he knows better -
and the question has to be asked - what will he do about it???

The obvious conclusion is:
IF ANDREW DOES NOT REMOVE 'NEW ORDER' FROM HIS LIST OF FAVOURITE BANDS

THAT WILL BE A CLEAR SIGN HE SUPPORTS AND ADMIRES NAZIS.

BTW - His Hateful pages live here:
        http://pages.nyu.edu/~aem0608

Who knows, soon he may have the mighty SKREWDRIVER and RAHOWA on his
list of favourites - and this WWW listing:

        http://www.resistance.com       (Home of Resistance Records)
        
Amen and Good Night. 

Peter   (reverend@iinet.net.au)









From reverend@iinet.net.au Mon Oct 28 11:23:37 PST 1996
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reverend@iinet.net.au (AgamemnoN) wrote:

Oh - and another thing McVay, if you don't like what I and others have
to say, why do you archive it then???

I guess you don't like discarding anything, whether it be articles
>from  newsgroups or disgusting suits which may have been fashionable in
the mid 70's.

>What a tolerant man, Ken McVay is. Here is my LAST exchange  from
>the man who promotes peace, dialogue and harmony!!!!.......

>Ken had posted a hateful, biased rant against Tom Metzger with his
>usual naiive panache. Alas I had the nerve to reply directly to him,
>instead of the newsgroups ...........
>> 
>> Dear me Kenny, you have just caused another hundred people to join
>> WAR!!
>> 
>> When it comes to uniforms, maybe Black IS better than white!!!!

>>>Whatever. In the future, Mr. Wheeler, do not send any electronic mail 
>>>to this address.  It is neither solicited nor acceptable, and
>>>will be automatically forwarded to abuse@iinet.net.au without
>>>human intervention.

>



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sschultz@pond.com (Schultzie) wrote:

>ARYAN,

>How come the only real, undiluted "white people", the Scandinavians,
>rejected Nazi-ism and Germany?

For a country who is now spewing forth (majesticalkly), BURZUM,
EMPEREROR and DARKTHRONE, that statement is a bit Rich is it not??!!

>Can anyone honestly believe this bullshit?

Why not?

>Note: for 200 years Germans burnt thousands of women as witches.
>Practice makes perfect.

Burn some more

>Schultzie






From reverend@iinet.net.au Wed Oct 30 07:29:27 PST 1996
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>I rather think of unwanted email as like unwanted phone calls.
>Intrusive, and the "receiver" has no obligation to accept it.

I bet if it was sycophantic email, Kenny would have loved it.

He obvious doesn't like to hear that people may have a differnt view
>from  him.

The man is so naiive that he doesn't realize his articles on Metzger
probably do more to promote WAR than Metzgers people do themselves.
I tell him this and he throws a tantrum!!


>"If I can't dance..... I don't want to be part of your revolution."
>     Emma Goldman






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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>>As I said before Jews are the only ethnic group with a tax-paid
>>memorial for them.  The Vietnam War memorial is not dedicated to any
>>ethnic group.  

>And the only ethnic group that lobbied for one, at least as far as you
>can prove.

Anything to take the worlds attention off the plight of the
Palistinians eh?

What about a memorial for them?



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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>>Because 'heroes' like YOU are here to protect the world??!!

>No, just myself and my own.

Yeah thats right - fuck the Palestinians - you need 'LIVING SPACE' eh?
Fuck the HOLOCAUST IN AFRICA TODAY, you need another memorial for
something that happened half a century ago!!
FUCK THE BOSNIANS - THEY WERE MUSLIME eh?????

I was so busy crying for you and your ilk, I guess I just missed the
hundred of Genocides that have happened all over this world since
WWII. 

>>>Kudos for standing up to him.

>>Dont pat yourself on the back you smug little hypocite. 
>>You're own backyard needs tending before you start sneering at others.

>Care to mow my lawn?

You do a pretty good job of displaying your own vile hypocrisy to the
world as it is  Andy!!


>=================================================================

>Shining a flashlight on the ugly underside of the 'net: http://www.webmagazine.com/Features/Hate/splash.html

>What's new with Frente?  http://www.nj.com/maxwells/july96/frente.html

>The Homepage that made Milwaukee famous: http://pages.nyu.edu/~aem0608

>"Panu derech Hashem"
>--Yeshayahu 40:3





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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>Well said.

>Please be aware that Mr. Strom is a big "Mucky-Muck" in the National
>Alliance, America's pre-eminent neo-Nazi organization.  Headed by Dr.
>William L. Pierce and headquartered in West Virginia, the National
>Alliance is believed to be connected, at least loosely, to the
>Oklahoma City Bombing, as well as the antics of Bob Matthew's
>paramilitary terrorist group The Order.

So you'te trying to smear NA by linking them to the bombing are you.

I bet you were one of the loathsome swine linking Richard Jewel to the
Atlanta bombing as well. 

Unless you have concrete facts, 'believed to be connected, at least
loosely' is piss-weak Mathis and is basically slanderous.

>In other words, Strom is no garden-variety Nazi.  He's a Goebbels in
>training.  But he'll never get his Fourth Reich in my lifetime.

Because 'heroes' like YOU are here to protect the world??!!

>Kudos for standing up to him.

Dont pat yourself on the back you smug little hypocite. 
You're own backyard needs tending before you start sneering at others.

>Andrew Mathis

>"AJL"  wrote:

>>Barely veiled anti-semitism is not welcome on any newsgroup dealing with
>>investing or conservatism, why don't you keep it to your Klan meetings, you
>>vile racist.

>>Go away, Kevin Alfred Strom.

>

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