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From reverend@iinet.net.au Thu Aug  1 16:49:21 PDT 1996
Article: 37948 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: reverend@iinet.net.au (peter wheeler)
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Subject: Re: Are Anonymous Users Cowards?
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jeff_brown@pol.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:

>In article <31FFDE79.528B@worldnet.att.net>, PSB  wrote:

>> The reason that so many racist use anonymous providers is easy.  The 
>> providers themselves will often kick you off their service for saying the 
>> truth.  Thus the need for anonymous servers.  It is not cowardness but 
>> censorship by certain internet providers.  By posting to this group, your 
>> account can be cancelled.

>That's an interesting assertion, but is curiously lacking any proof.

>Can you provide a documented example of a racist user whose email account
>was pulled solely because of the content of his/her posts, and not some
>abuse of the system such as mailbombing or the like?

Well how about mine for starters when I was at University oh smart
arse!!

>JGB

>=====================================================================
>Jeffrey G. Brown                                   jeff_brown@pol.com
> "What's going to happen?"   "Something wonderful..."   -- '2010'




From reverend@iinet.net.au Sun Aug  4 08:01:36 PDT 1996
Article: 38084 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: reverend@iinet.net.au (peter wheeler)
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Subject: Re: I beat-up a fucking ocker.
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 14:37:42 GMT
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nguyen@netspace.net.au (James Nguyen) wrote:

>God I hate ockers. For the information of ignorant foreigners an
>ocker is a term for cultureless, scruffy, stinking, drunken, undeducated
>Australian. Comprised mostly of Australian Rules Footy supporters of Anglo
>Saxon decent. They are most visible on public transport on the day of
>a football match and are distinguished from other human beings by among
>things...

Dear me, I think we have a racist here.

Nguyen has one bad experience with a person and suddenly he is
bringing 'RACE' into the matter by stating that his assailant was
ANGLO-SAXON'.  

Its curious that most of Australia has embraced Australian Rules as
their favourite sport - and that includes the majority of Aboriginals,
Anglo-Saxons, Greeks, Italians, Maltese, Yogoslavians, Germans etc
etc.

However, I've never seen one Vietnamese person playing AFL (Australian
Rules Football League) however. So much for attempting to assimilate
into the culture of your country.

You should should get a grip on yourself Nguyen. The probable reason
you were attacked is your sneering attitute to the culture you are
leeching off. Most of us enjoy it here and don't particularly like
Economic Parasites like yourself pissing on our culture and our
people.






From reverend@iinet.net.au Sun Aug  4 08:01:38 PDT 1996
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From: reverend@iinet.net.au (peter wheeler)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Re: Are Anonymous Users Cowards?
Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 01:09:03 GMT
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jeff_brown@pol.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:

>> >Can you provide a documented example of a racist user whose email account
>> >was pulled solely because of the content of his/her posts, and not some
>> >abuse of the system such as mailbombing or the like?
>> 
>> Well how about mine for starters when I was at University oh smart
>> arse!!

>"How about mine for starters" is simply another assertion, Wheeler.
>Provide documentation or other evidence that demonstrates that your
>account was pulled strictly because of the content of your posts, and not
>system abuse.

>JGB

In 1991, Myself and two friends RW and GB posted a number of articles
over a period of about a month to newsgroup 'alt.evil'. Considering
the nature of the group, offensive material was in no way out of
place. All articles were in context. 

While most of the articles we posted were offensive, they were not
racist until RW posted 2 articles which caused trouble. One referrred
to 'mud-people' and the other was an AntiSemetic joke.

Not long after this, I arrived one morning to find I could not logon
to the Unix system. RW and GB arrived not long after and discovered
the same thing.

I went up to see our Sys Prog and it was from him that i got the
details, (as well as a reprimand!!).

Someone in the US noticed the Anti-Semite posting, and had contacted
our university. At that time our faculty had a Jewish lecturer and I
think it was she that got the ball rolling. 

....(The person who compalined was an obvious moron. Its like someone
downloading a picture from alt.binaries.sex.nude and getting offended 
because there was nudity portrayed there. What did the person expect
>from  a group called alt.evil?? Cooking recipes or pleasant poetry
perhaps???) .....

The University did not want to be portrayed as a breeding ground for
Racism and decided to revoke our internet priviledges. It wanted the
rest of the world to think we were a happy campus in order to attract
foreign students which would bring in a lot of money. 

Even though it was RW and not GB or myself which had posted the
'offensive' items, we were still punished due to our obvious
connection with RW. 

The good thing is that my activities on the net were distracting me
>from  my studies and getting my access removed was a good thing.

BUT Mr Brown, I'm sure you will still dismiss the above as an
'assertion' without proof. Alas, our Systems Programmer at Uni was a
busy man with a life, (Unlike Ken McVey) and would not have documented
every little transgression every student made. Also considering the
fact that it happened in 1991 and I don't know if the Sys Prog is
still there at that uni, you'll just have to believe my story.

>=====================================================================
>Jeffrey G. Brown                                   jeff_brown@pol.com
> "What's going to happen?"   "Something wonderful..."   -- '2010'




From reverend@iinet.net.au Tue Aug  6 09:17:09 PDT 1996
Article: 38237 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: reverend@iinet.net.au (peter wheeler)
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Subject: Re: Are Anonymous Users Cowards?
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jeff_brown@pol.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:

>In article <4u0t1o$uj@opera.iinet.net.au>, reverend@iinet.net.au wrote:

>> [...deletia... unsupported anecdote...]

HEY FUCKHEAD - how do expect me to support the story. It happened in
1991. Its now 1996.

Do you really think people are so short of things to do that the staff
at the uni would have documented something as trivial as that???!!!!

As I said before, you and McVey should get a life!!

>> BUT Mr Brown, I'm sure you will still dismiss the above as an
>> 'assertion' without proof.

>That is exactly what it is.

>> Alas, our Systems Programmer at Uni was a
>> busy man with a life, (Unlike Ken McVey) and would not have documented
>> every little transgression every student made. Also considering the
>> fact that it happened in 1991 and I don't know if the Sys Prog is
>> still there at that uni, you'll just have to believe my story.

>Why?


>JGB

>=====================================================================
>Jeffrey G. Brown                                   jeff_brown@pol.com
> "What's going to happen?"   "Something wonderful..."   -- '2010'




From reverend@iinet.net.au Sat Aug 10 17:01:50 PDT 1996
Article: 38854 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: reverend@iinet.net.au (peter wheeler)
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various people at this address  wrote:

>What are you talking about?  Whites aren't getting "the shit kicked out
>of them by the nonwhites" here.  Infact the only person I know who has
>ever been beat up for his race was a little black kid (his large skinhead
>attacker must have been SO brave).

You obviously don't go out enough Pedro.

Go into town on a Friday and Saturday night, and you'll see plenty.



From reverend@iinet.net.au Sun Aug 11 01:33:29 PDT 1996
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From: reverend@iinet.net.au (peter wheeler)
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Laura Finsten  wrote:


>"If I can't dance.....I don't want to be part of your revolution."
>          Emma Goldman

Curious that you should say that.

A few years agio, when Michael Jackson visited the BANDIT STATE of
Israel, he thought that it would be a good idea to visit the 'Wailing
Wall'.  

When those Jew  Boys saw Jacko moonwalking towards their holy grail
they went beserk and tries to lynch him.

So much for allowing dance in the revolultion Finstein!

And so much for tolerance.





From reverend@iinet.net.au Sun Aug 11 17:35:17 PDT 1996
Article: 39002 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: reverend@iinet.net.au (peter wheeler)
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Subject: Zionist Alien Invasion (WAS Bleeding Heart Beavis)
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evil Beavis  wrote: (quoting someone else)
>> 
>> People have the inalienable right not to be alienated by aliens in their
>> own homelands. 

>Says who and where??

Well I'm sure the Palestinians do!

They weren't at all pleased at being swamped by an invasion of aliens
back in the Thirties.

"In late September [1937] the Arab nationalists had risen once more,
forcing the Mandatory Power to declare a state of seige and close the
frontiers of Palestine."	

(quote: Heinz Hohne - The Order of the Deaths Head - Pan Books -
London and Sydney - pg 310)

 




From reverend@iinet.net.au Mon Aug 12 09:09:09 PDT 1996
Article: 39095 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: reverend@iinet.net.au (peter wheeler)
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Subject: Re: Are Anonymous Users Cowards?
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gtaylor@msn.fullfeed.com (Gregory Taylor) wrote:

>PSB   wrote:
>>The reason that so many racist use anonymous providers is easy.  The 
>>providers themselves will often kick you off their service for saying the 
>>truth.  Thus the need for anonymous servers.  It is not cowardness but 
>>censorship by certain internet providers.  By posting to this group, your 
>>account can be cancelled.

>Oh. Well, if it's happened *often,* then it ought to be easy to come up
>with a couple of names of white power rangers who got kicked off their
>services for "saying the truth." I'll wager a tall, cold Weissbier that
>the numbnutted dimwits either don't exist, or that they violated their
>terms of sercvice in some straightforward way [spamming, personal threats,
>the usual]. Come on, gimme just *one* name of someone terminated for
>posting to this ah...august group. He who asserts must prove.

try reading the follow up posts to the original article moron

>And by the way, it's "cowardice." This is an important word for weasly
>flourescent-tanned Unterstein-dwelling folks to learn. Where's a little
>courage to go with those convictions?

>-- 
>The arts are the field on which we place our own dreams, thoughts, and desires
>alongside those of others, so that solitudes can meet, to their joy sometimes,
>or to their surprise, and sometimes to their disgust.(R. Hughes) Gregory Taylor
>WORT-FM 89.9 Madison, Wisconsin http://www.msn.fullfeed.com/~gtaylor/RTQE.html




From reverend@iinet.net.au Fri Aug 16 11:35:21 PDT 1996
Article: 27315 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: reverend@iinet.net.au (peter wheeler)
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Subject: Re: CommieJewsAndHitler
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ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) wrote:
>   The Wehrmacht was delighted by the reception given the
>Germans in the Ukraine, where the Ukrainians had been
>subjected to a terror-campaign which made the Holocaust,
>even in its Canonical Version look benign. Himmler (whose
>personality closely resembled Hitler's) and his off-the-wall
>racial theories managed to alienate the very people whose
>good office might well have resulted in a German victory.

Indeed.

RHSA men thwarted efforts by the Wehrmacht to persuade the people of
Eastern Europe to work for them by guaranteeing them some measure of
self-government. If the Wehrmacht has succeeded in these efforts, you
may well be right that a German victory could have occurred.

According to Heinz Hohne, Himmler viewed anyone prepared to accept
Russians as auxiliaries or, still worse, allies in the anti-Soviet
crusade, as a sabateur of his programme for German rule in the East.

Also, the Waffen-SS commanders were among the first to protest against
the doctrine that the Russians were 'sub-humans'. 

Its interesting to note to the huge number of people that fled as
refugees when the Soviet Offensive started rolling. They obviously
believed life would be more pleasant under the Germans (or Allies who
were gaining ground) than the Soviets who were hell bend on punishing
'collaborators'.


BTW - the rest of your article was interesting too. 



From reverend@iinet.net.au Mon Aug 26 09:05:33 PDT 1996
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From: reverend@iinet.net.au (peter wheeler)
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Subject: Re: Emma Goldman and her "revolution"
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>I knew nothing about Emma Goldman when I began to use the quotation
>in my signature.  I did buy the t-shirt though, because it gave me a
......
>times.  While I don't agree with a lot of what she stood for, as I
>understand her ideals, she was a woman of principle who lived by her 
>convictions, and I admire that a great deal.

Hmm. So you admire Emma Goldman because she lived by her convictions
and she had a set of priciples? I don't think thats really adequate
now. By the same logic then you must also admire Adolph Hitler, who
was a man of principle and lived by his convictions??

And what do you mean when you say you 'understand her ideals'.
Understanding and 'Giving the thumbs up' are pretty different you
know! 


>[...]

>"If I can't dance.....I don't want to be part of your revolution."
>          Emma Goldman

I wonder if Begin danced when the Irgun and Stern Gang detonated their
bombs?






From reverend@iinet.net.au Fri Aug 30 14:57:24 PDT 1996
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From: reverend@iinet.net.au (peter wheeler)
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Subject: Re: Racist Education 2: The Protocols of the Wise Elders of Zion
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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:


>You MIGHT have a point that the term Holocaust did not come into
>regular usage until the 60's.  As for the genocide, it happened,
>George.

What about lebenraum for Zionist Left Bank Settlers funny man.

Jews - one law for your talMUDic selves, one law for the rest.

Hypocricy begins at home JB - and as for frente - fuck off!!!
.

>Andrew Mathis

>=================================================================

>What's new with Frente?--http://www.nj.com/maxwells/july96/frente.html

>The Homepage that made Milwaukee famous--http://pages.nyu.edu/~aem0608

>"Peyno derech Hashem"
>--Yeshayahu 40:3





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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:


>You MIGHT have a point that the term Holocaust did not come into
>regular usage until the 60's.  As for the genocide, it happened,
>George.

What about lebenraum for Zionist Left Bank Settlers funny man.

Jews - one law for your talMUDic selves, one law for the rest.

Hypocricy begins at home JB - and as for frente - fuck off!!!
.

>Andrew Mathis

>=================================================================

>What's new with Frente?--http://www.nj.com/maxwells/july96/frente.html

>The Homepage that made Milwaukee famous--http://pages.nyu.edu/~aem0608

>"Peyno derech Hashem"
>--Yeshayahu 40:3





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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:


>You MIGHT have a point that the term Holocaust did not come into
>regular usage until the 60's.  As for the genocide, it happened,
>George.

What about lebenraum for Zionist Left Bank Settlers funny man.

Jews - one law for your talMUDic selves, one law for the rest.

Hypocricy begins at home JB - and as for frente - fuck off!!!
.

>Andrew Mathis

>=================================================================

>What's new with Frente?--http://www.nj.com/maxwells/july96/frente.html

>The Homepage that made Milwaukee famous--http://pages.nyu.edu/~aem0608

>"Peyno derech Hashem"
>--Yeshayahu 40:3





From reverend@iinet.net.au Fri Aug 30 15:46:15 PDT 1996
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>bob whitaker  wrote:

>[...]

>>Here we go again!   Criticize Israel and you're a Nazi Who 
>>Wants To Kill Six Million Jews.


>I guess if repeating this mantra gives you comfort, then go for it,
>Mr. Whitaker.  Clearly you need to find some comfort somewhere.

>You are, of course, completely wrong in asserting that anyone who
>criticises Israel is labelled a Nazi...etc.  Not that long ago,
>Mike Stein, a regular poster on alt.revisionism, was critical
>of Israel during the border mess with Lebanon, just before the
>elections.  I didn't see anyone calling him a Nazi.

Oh wow - Mike Stein!!!!

For a vile Bandit State to elect a TERRORIST who slaugheterd innocents
to the position of Prime Minister i laugh.

Especially when the apologists like you meander around the facts.

>"If I can't dance.....I don't want to be part of your revolution."
>          Emma Goldman

Dance ? the dance of death! (Irgun/Stern Gang Style)

In Israel - Work brings Freedom!




From reverend@iinet.net.au Fri Aug 30 17:29:41 PDT 1996
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From: reverend@iinet.net.au (peter wheeler)
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truth@nowhere.com ("The Truth") wrote:

>The only thing whites successfully invented on their own was the
>ability to dance badly.

Yeah I know - while we were tripping over our own feet whilst
attempting the 'moon-walk', if only we'd had the foresight to clutch a
young boy to our groin for balance like the aforementioned
protagoniost! Or mebbe a LLama or "bubbles"







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gtaylor@msn.fullfeed.com (Gregory Taylor) wrote:


>Of course, it hasn't really occurred to him that he doesn't really require
>antisemitism and its concommitant denier baggage (or Naziphilia, for that 
>matter) to be a simple and unadorned racist; he might be lonelier without
>all that Horst Wessel Lied singing at all hours, but hey.

I tell you one thing matey boy - The music behind HW is one of the
most emotive pieces of music you are ever likely to hear.

BTW - what was Begin's anthem when he won the election???? HW by any
chance.


AMF JB


>-- 
>The arts are the field on which we place our own dreams, thoughts, and desires
>alongside those of others, so that solitudes can meet, to their joy sometimes,
>or to their surprise, and sometimes to their disgust.(R. Hughes) Gregory Taylor
>WORT-FM 89.9 Madison, Wisconsin http://www.msn.fullfeed.com/~gtaylor/RTQE.html




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jaklein@unix.amherst.edu (Josh Klein) wrote:

>Ursus Major (ursus_m@ix.netcom.com) wrote:


>> Why don't you post the whole Protocols? Henry Ford certainly thought
>> they were authentic. They were serialized in his newspaper. Put them
>> up and let the reader decide how fake they are.

>How come there's a new group of nimrods on this group every time I pop over
>for a visit?  The Protocols are already available on the Web and are 
>available in book form in several languages.

>There have also been several excellent exposes of the forgery -- I seem to
>recall, in particular, an article which put several stretches of the Joly
>pamphelet and the "Protocols" side by side.

May as well post the Necronomicon as well why you're at it!

Klaatu Berata Niktu!

>--
>Josh Klein
>Amherst College




From reverend@iinet.net.au Sat Aug 31 11:13:51 PDT 1996
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amatthews@cybercom.net (Allan Matthews) wrote:

>Ever notice how the "Aryans" in this newsgroup call any white person who 
>doesn't agree with them things like "race traitor?"   Its either that or they 
>imply you're black, Jewish or a paid operative - anything but a true white.  
>You get this reaction even for asking just what being "white" is by their 
>definition.  

>And, of course they do all this without ever responding rationally to 
>questions posed and arguments made.  What a bunch of ignorant "clones" these 
>white power rangers are...

Yeah - like you never picked up the derogatory PC slogan 'white power
ranger' you fucking CLONE!!

Theres not a lot of Whites out there who aren't racists and for good
reason .




>allan




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reverend@iinet.net.au (peter wheeler) wrote:


>Theres not a lot of Whites out there who aren't racists and for good
>reason .

I meant to say ....

Theres a lot of Whites out there who ARE racists AND for good
reason!!!!

AMF JB!!



>>allan






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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>bob whitaker  wrote:

>[...]

>>Here we go again!   Criticize Israel and you're a Nazi Who 
>>Wants To Kill Six Million Jews.


>I guess if repeating this mantra gives you comfort, then go for it,
>Mr. Whitaker.  Clearly you need to find some comfort somewhere.

>You are, of course, completely wrong in asserting that anyone who
>criticises Israel is labelled a Nazi...etc.  Not that long ago,
>Mike Stein, a regular poster on alt.revisionism, was critical
>of Israel during the border mess with Lebanon, just before the
>elections.  I didn't see anyone calling him a Nazi.

Oh wow - Mike Stein!!!!

For a vile Bandit State to elect a TERRORIST who slaugheterd innocents
to the position of Prime Minister i laugh.

Especially when the apologists like you meander around the facts.

>"If I can't dance.....I don't want to be part of your revolution."
>          Emma Goldman

Dance ? the dance of death! (Irgun/Stern Gang Style)

In Israel - Work brings Freedom!




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amatthews@cybercom.net (Allan Matthews) wrote:

>Ever notice how the "Aryans" in this newsgroup call any white person who 
>doesn't agree with them things like "race traitor?"   Its either that or they 
>imply you're black, Jewish or a paid operative - anything but a true white.  
>You get this reaction even for asking just what being "white" is by their 
>definition.  

>And, of course they do all this without ever responding rationally to 
>questions posed and arguments made.  What a bunch of ignorant "clones" these 
>white power rangers are...

Yeah - like you never picked up the derogatory PC slogan 'white power
ranger' you fucking CLONE!!

Theres not a lot of Whites out there who aren't racists and for good
reason .




>allan




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reverend@iinet.net.au (peter wheeler) wrote:


>Theres not a lot of Whites out there who aren't racists and for good
>reason .

I meant to say ....

Theres a lot of Whites out there who ARE racists AND for good
reason!!!!

AMF JB!!



>>allan






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pfoi@primenet.com (Richard A. Muhammad) wrote:

>THE HONORABLE MINISTER LOUIS FARRAKHAN
>PRESS CONFERENCE 

Honourable - thats a fucking laugh!

For a man of peace he sure spreads a lot a hatred.

And you morally destitute fools quake when a man of stature like David
Duke rises above the pack.





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pka00085@alpha.wvup.wvnet.edu wrote:

>You just have to realize that these people are extremely shallow. This
>is why I often wonder why you, Jenn, Jeanne, Ken, Joel, and others
>waste your time trying to deal with these people on a rational basis.
>They are simply too shallow.  I mean, talking to Les was like talking
>to a 2 by four. It's more productive to just "taunt the cybernaizi's"
>than try to reason with them in any logical manner.  More fun, too.
> .

Yeah right, You talk about shallow. The bunch of 'do-gooders' you so
lickspittling mention are only on this newsgroup to get some
'vicarious' thrill.  Probably trying to put some meaning in their
lives. Rosenberks already confessed to being here because he wants to
shit-stir.

You see a lot of this at Univerities. Kids straight out of school, as
soon as they have 'freedom' from mommy and daddy start hanging around
in little left wing cliques and part-time radicalism. Makes them seem
grown-up. As soon as they get a job, its Capitalism City Baby!!!

>Maybe I'm cynical in that I don't think you can reason with these
>people, but I could be wrong on that too.

Oh like you haven't got blinkers on yourself!

>I gotta say your sig's are the best.

You sycophant.

>Just my thoughts,

>John





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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>pkasieck@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Philip Kasiecki) wrote:
>
>variation in populations.  The white power rangers really do
>illustrate rather well some of the fundamental flaws in typological
>analyses. 

CLONE!

but what do expect from a degenerative mob that would have rather
freed Barrabas.


>"If I can't dance.....I don't want to be part of your revolution."
>          Emma Goldman






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joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:

>I don't think any reasonable, moral person can have any doubts as to what 
>Pierce's intentions were or are.  Or Hitler's.

When Adolph wrote "Mein Kampf' he was a Political Prisoner!

Ask Amnesty International - they would have supported him!

Theres nothing in MK that your 'GLORIOUS' Zionists shyed away from
anyway. Just ask Eichmann. OOPS they murdered him before he could
point the finger at his Zionist
comrades...................................................................................

>"I have made numerous provocative statements myself, statements I deeply 
>regret... "

Ahhh - its the thre dots after your last line that made me realize
that you mean it MAAAAAAN!!!

Wistful, contemplative, and self analytical..... I wonder.

But after seeing the vile repugnant JPEG of your corpulent obesity, I
find it hard to believe that you think futher than your next
do-nut!!!!

But maybe I'm wrong ... (wow - 3 dots - mebee i have doubts too fat
boy!!)

>

>---------------------------------------------------------------
>http://www.winternet.com/~joelr
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0380973227/joelrosenbergA/
>...and for the last bit of geekitry:  to receive the latest version of my FAQ, 
>send me a message with the phrase "your FAQ" anywhere in the subject line.




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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>bob whitaker  wrote:

>[...]

>>Here we go again!   Criticize Israel and you're a Nazi Who 
>>Wants To Kill Six Million Jews.


>I guess if repeating this mantra gives you comfort, then go for it,
>Mr. Whitaker.  Clearly you need to find some comfort somewhere.

>You are, of course, completely wrong in asserting that anyone who
>criticises Israel is labelled a Nazi...etc.  Not that long ago,
>Mike Stein, a regular poster on alt.revisionism, was critical
>of Israel during the border mess with Lebanon, just before the
>elections.  I didn't see anyone calling him a Nazi.

Oh wow - Mike Stein!!!!

For a vile Bandit State to elect a TERRORIST who slaugheterd innocents
to the position of Prime Minister i laugh.

Especially when the apologists like you meander around the facts.

>"If I can't dance.....I don't want to be part of your revolution."
>          Emma Goldman

Dance ? the dance of death! (Irgun/Stern Gang Style)

In Israel - Work brings Freedom!





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