The Nizkor Project: Remembering the Holocaust (Shoah)

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"Kenneth McVay"  wrote ...
> 
> There are no "extra" 6 million, as any history book will explain.
> 
Who wrote and edited the history books? Odds were that it was Jews.

> > The "racism" is in how one and only one group feels they are exempt from
> > examination to the point of making a crime to ask questions of them in
>  most
> > of the "democracies" of the western world.
> 
> Nonsense. The racism inherent to Holocaust denial is clear - vivid,
> actually - to anyone familiar with deniers and their claims.
> 
Would you explain to what "RACE" you refer? Race is gramatically
divided by colour. Which coloured race do you refer? I believe
Jews have referred to themselves as a "mongrel race" -which in 
itself is an oxymoron. And, "holocaust" is a burnt offering.
Who has the ego to think that they are the elite of the world
except Zionists - the high priests of Lucifer. So, it is obvious
that, if there was a "holocaust" committed in WW2 period, it was
performed by these "high priests". Many Jews believe that is the 
case: http://www.rense.com/general32/next.htm

> These include, but are certainly not limited to, the claim that the
> Holocaust is a deliberate hoax created in order to sustain Israel. 
> That is a clear indictment of Jews, living and dead, since 1880 or 
> so, and the most sweeping, racist generalization I've ever come across.
> 
Again, this is total PIGSHIT! Re-read:
http://www.rense.com/general32/next.htm
Ken, are you smarter, and more informed than the Jews who wrote 
this article? Or, is it just that you have been totally brainwashed
with the Luciferian indoctrination?

> Deniers don't stop there. It isn't enough to claim that all Jews, 
> living and dead, were and are liars, party to the most massive 
> conspiracy in human history. No, deniers also claim that every 
> Allied military leader, and every Western government, ALSO 
> participated, and participates, willingly in this "hoax."

How many of them counted these "6 million"? And, how many accepted
the lies of the Zionist priests who performed the 'holocaust'?
If it were not a priestly act of a "burnt offering - holocaust"
sacrifice to Lucifer, then wouldn't Hitler's extermination of
Jews and other undesirables (to him) been a massacre, human
incineration, or maybe mass extermination - but "holocaust"? 

Why is it that the being a "revisionist" of Zionist "revised"
history is somehow "anti-semitic"? - The great unanswered question!
And, that is supposed to be such a "bad thing to do"?????? -
even worth of the death sentence for violation.... Hmmmm.....

Eldon Warman


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From: egwarman@outgun.com (EG Warman)
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Ken McVay wrote ...
> In article <2005a7f1.0301071028.1f1bdc61@posting.google.com>,
> EG Warman  wrote:
> >"Kenneth McVay"  wrote ...
> >> 
> >> There are no "extra" 6 million, as any history book will explain.
> >> 
> >Who wrote and edited the history books? Odds were that it was Jews.
> 
> Why not list the major Holocaust history works, and show which were
> written by Jews, and then show how the Jewish historians' views differ
> from the Gentile historians' views?
> 
First, a "holocaust" is a 'burnt offering to some god'. To which 'god'
do you refer. Priests perform "holocausts". Who were the "priests"
who performed the so-called "holocaust - burnt offering" in the 1940's?
The major book I would suggest is the TORH wherein Cain offered the 
burnt offering - holocaust.  
> 
> >> Nonsense. The racism inherent to Holocaust denial is clear - vivid,
> >> actually - to anyone familiar with deniers and their claims.
> >> 
> >Would you explain to what "RACE" you refer? Race is gramatically
> >divided by colour. Which coloured race do you refer? I believe
> >Jews have referred to themselves as a "mongrel race" -which in 
> >itself is an oxymoron. And, "holocaust" is a burnt offering.
> >Who has the ego to think that they are the elite of the world
> >except Zionists - the high priests of Lucifer. So, it is obvious
> >that, if there was a "holocaust" committed in WW2 period, it was
> >performed by these "high priests". Many Jews believe that is the 
> >case: http://www.rense.com/general32/next.htm
> 
> Look up "racism" in a dictionary, Mr. Warman. It's right next to
> "lizards."
> 
Neat attempt by a queer at posing a "red herring" I would suggest.

> >> These include, but are certainly not limited to, the claim that the
> >> Holocaust is a deliberate hoax created in order to sustain Israel. 
> >> That is a clear indictment of Jews, living and dead, since 1880 or 
> >> so, and the most sweeping, racist generalization I've ever come across.
> >> 
> >Again, this is total PIGSHIT! Re-read:
> >http://www.rense.com/general32/next.htm
> >Ken, are you smarter, and more informed than the Jews who wrote 
> >this article? Or, is it just that you have been totally brainwashed
> >with the Luciferian indoctrination?
> 
> Poor Mr. Warman... you haven't read much denial material, have you? 
> Why not begin with http://nizkor.org/features/techniques-of-denial and
> work your way up from there?
> 
Why would I read that NAZI/Zionist PigShit? I have better things to do
than read the rantings of a pedophile queer who spouts the treason of 
Zionism? On the other hand, I have read such as:
http://www.rense.com/general32/next.htm
You see, you wish to merge the treasonous Zionists with God Fearing Jews.
You have absolutely no interest in Jews of that calibre, do you, queer
boy? 

> >> Deniers don't stop there. It isn't enough to claim that all Jews, 
> >> living and dead, were and are liars, party to the most massive 
> >> conspiracy in human history. No, deniers also claim that every 
> >> Allied military leader, and every Western government, ALSO 
> >> participated, and participates, willingly in this "hoax."
> >
> >How many of them counted these "6 million"? And, how many accepted
> >the lies of the Zionist priests who performed the 'holocaust'?
> >If it were not a priestly act of a "burnt offering - holocaust"
> >sacrifice to Lucifer, then wouldn't Hitler's extermination of
> >Jews and other undesirables (to him) been a massacre, human
> >incineration, or maybe mass extermination - but "holocaust"? 
> 
> How long have you been afflicted with this babbling problem, Mr.
> Warman? As long as you've had your irrational hatred for Jews?
> 
Why is TRUTH heard as "babble" by you Queer Zionist Jews, or
brainwashed idiots doing what you do? I ONLY hate Zionist 
Lucifer worshipping Jews, and Zionists of any other ILK.
There ARE other Jews with a philosophy that follow the LAW.
>
> >Why is it that the being a "revisionist" of Zionist "revised"
> >history is somehow "anti-semitic"? - The great unanswered question!
> 
> We're not talking about revisionists, Mr. Warman, we're talking about
> DENIERS. Revisionists are respected academics - Arno Mayer and
> Goldhagen come to mind - Holocaust denials are gutter trash racists
> who try - and fail) to wrap their hatred for Jews in academic
> respectability.
> 
You mean the same sort of "gutter trash" that play with little boys,
and use scam tax exemptions to use Canadian scammed income tax 
to further the vicious Zionist pogroms of America.

> >And, that is supposed to be such a "bad thing to do"?????? -
> >even worth of the death sentence for violation.... Hmmmm.....
> 
> Where is denial of the Holocaust punishable by death, Mr. Warman? Cite
> the relevant laws.

Israel! 

Eldon Warman


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Ken McVay wrote...
> >> 
> >First, a "holocaust" is a 'burnt offering to some god'. To which 'god'
> >do you refer. Priests perform "holocausts". Who were the "priests"
> >who performed the so-called "holocaust - burnt offering" in the 1940's?
> >The major book I would suggest is the TORH wherein Cain offered the 
> >burnt offering - holocaust.  
> 
> Evasion noted, Mr. Warman. 

Evasion by whom? You seem to have evaded the questions posed 
regarding who were the priests who performed the burnt offering,
"holocaust". An, you avoided telling us what to "god" the 
sacrifice was made?


> Now please demonstrate that Jewish historians differ from 
Gentile historians wrt?? (wrote about, maybe) the Holocaust.
> 
How about the English historian, David Irving? And, his book
"Hitler's War"?  Oh yes, I forgot, the Zionist Jews have "debunked"
him - like any "goy" who happens to uncover the truth of their 
treachery. 

> Do try to pay attention, Mr. Warman. Since you raised the issue, 
> I was certain you would be prepared to support your contention.
> 
> I'll just sit here and wait while you upload your proofs.
>  
No point in wasting my time trying to convince an evil idiot
that black is black and white is white... 

> >> >> Nonsense. The racism inherent to Holocaust denial is clear - vivid,
> >> >> actually - to anyone familiar with deniers and their claims.
> >> >> 
> >> >Would you explain to what "RACE" you refer? Race is gramatically
> >> >divided by colour. Which coloured race do you refer? I believe
> >> >Jews have referred to themselves as a "mongrel race" -which in 
> >> >itself is an oxymoron. And, "holocaust" is a burnt offering.
> >> >Who has the ego to think that they are the elite of the world
> >> >except Zionists - the high priests of Lucifer. So, it is obvious
> >> >that, if there was a "holocaust" committed in WW2 period, it was
> >> >performed by these "high priests". Many Jews believe that is the 
> >> >case: http://www.rense.com/general32/next.htm
> >> 
> >> Look up "racism" in a dictionary, Mr. Warman. It's right next to
> >> "lizards."
> >> 
> >Neat attempt by a queer at posing a "red herring" I would suggest.
> 
> Please post your evidence that I am "a queer," Mr. Warman, and
> remember the libel laws.
> 
You certainly are on a "queer" path to oblivion - is that "queer enough?
Oh, I forgot, you Zionists have skewed that word to mean a typical
Zionist - a male cocksucker. Now, I understand your concern....

> Then explain why you don't want to look "racism" up in the dictionary.
> 
> I'll wait.
> 
Who wrote, or edited the dictionary to which you would have me explore?

(Remainder of Mc-OyVey useless drivel content clipped)

Eldon Warman


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From: http://www.rense.com/general33/pepr.htm

Brigadier General Says Israel Is The Problem, Not Iraq
By James J. David Retired Brigadier General
>From RePortersNoteBook.com 1-7-3

Note - James J. David is a retired Brigadier General and a graduate 
of the U.S. Army's Command and General Staff College, and the 
National Security Course, National Defense University, Washington, 
DC. He served as a Company Commander with the 101st Airborne 
Division in the Republic of Vietnam in 1969 and 1970 and also 
served nearly 3 years of Army active duty in and around the Middle 
East from 1967-1969. 
           
Question: Which country alone in the Middle East has nuclear weapons? 

Answer: Israel. 
           
Q: Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the nuclear
non-proliferation treaty and bars international inspections?

Answer: Israel. 
           
Q: Which country in the Middle East seized the sovereign territory 
of other nations by military force and continues to occupy it in 
defiance of United Nations Security Council resolutions? 

Answer: Israel. 
           
Q: Which country in the Middle East routinely violates the
international borders of another sovereign state with warplanes and
artillery and
naval gunfire? 

Answer: Israel. 
           
Q: What American ally in the Middle East has for years sent assassins 
into other countries to kill its political enemies (a practice
sometimes
called exporting terrorism)? 

Answer: Israel. 
           
Q: In which country in the Middle East have high-ranking military 
officers admitted publicly that unarmed prisoners of war were
executed?

Answer: Israel. 
           
Q: What country in the Middle East refuses to prosecute its soldiers 
who have acknowledged executing prisoners of war? 

Answer: Israel. 
           
Q: What country in the Middle East created 762,000 refugees and
refuses
to allow them to return to their homes, farms and businesses? 

Answer: Israel. 
           
Q: What country in the Middle East refuses to pay compensation to 
people whose land, bank accounts and businesses it confiscated? 

Answer: Israel. 
           
Q: In what country in the Middle East was a high-ranking United 
Nations diplomat assassinated? 

Answer: Israel. 
           
Q: In what country in the Middle East did the man who ordered the 
assassination of a high-ranking U.N. diplomat become prime minister? 

Answer: Israel. 
           
Q: What country in the Middle East blew up an American diplomatic 
facility in Egypt and attacked a U.S. ship, the USS Liberty, in 
international waters, killing 34 and wounding 171 American sailors? 

Answer: Israel. 
           
Q: What country in the Middle East employed a spy, Jonathan Pollard, 
to steal classified documents and then gave some of them to the Soviet
Union? 

Answer: Israel. 
           
Q: What country at first denied any official connection to Pollard, 
then voted to make him a citizen and has continuously demanded that 
the American president grant Pollard a full pardon? 

Answer: Israel. 
           
Q. What Middle East country allows American Jewish murderers to flee 
to its country to escape punishment in the United States and refuses 
to extradite them once in their custody? 

Answer: Israel 
           
Q. What Middle East country preaches against hate yet builds a shrine 
and a memorial for a murderer who killed 29 Palestinians while they 
prayed in their Mosque. 

Answer: Israel 
           
Q: What country on Planet Earth has the second most powerful lobby 
in the United States, according to a recent Fortune magazine survey 
of Washington insiders? 

Answer: Israel. 
           
Q. Which country in the Middle East deliberately targeted a U.N. 
Refugee Camp in Qana, Lebanon and killed 103 innocent men, women, 
and especially children? 

Answer: Israel 
           
Q: Which country in the Middle East is in defiance of 69 United 
Nations Security Council resolutions and has been protected from 
29 more by U.S. vetoes? 

Answer: Israel. 
           
Q. Which country in the Middle East receives more than one-third of 
all U.S. aid yet is the 16th richest country in the world? 

Answer: Israel 
           
Q. Which country in the Middle East receives U.S. weapons for free 
and then sells the technology to the Republic of China even at the 
objections of the U.S.? 

Answer: Israel 
           
Q. Which country in the Middle East routinely insults the American 
people by having its Prime Minister address the United States Congress
and lecturing them like children on why they have no right to reduce 
foreign aid? 

Answer: Israel 
           
Q. Which country in the Middle East had its Prime Minister announce 
to his staff not to worry about what the United States says because 
"We control America?" 

Answer: Israel 
           
Q. What country in the Middle East was cited by Amnesty International 
for demolishing more than 4000 innocent Palestinian homes as a means 
of ethnic cleansing. 

Answer: Israel 
           
Q. Which country in the Middle East has just recently used a weapon 
of mass destruction, a one-ton smart bomb, dropping it in the center 
of a highly populated area killing 15 civilians including 9 children? 

Answer: Israel 
           
Q. Which country in the Middle East routinely kills young Palestinian 
children for no reason other than throwing stones at armored vehicles,
bulldozers, or tanks?

Answer: Israel 
           
Q. Which country in the Middle East signed the Oslo Accords promising 
to halt any new Jewish Settlement construction, but instead, has 
built more than 270 new settlements since the signing? 

Answer: Israel 
           
Q. Which country in the Middle East has assassinated more than 100 
political officials of its opponent in the last 2 years while killing 
hundreds of civilians in the process, including dozens of children? 

Answer: Israel 
           
Q. Which country in the Middle East regularly violates the Geneva 
Convention by imposing collective punishment on entire towns,
villages,
and camps, for the acts of a few, and even goes as far as demolishing 
entire villages while people are still in their homes? 

Answer: Israel 
           
Q: What country in the Middle East is the United States threatening 
to attack because of fear that it may be a threat to us and to our 
allies? 

Answer: Iraq 
           
Peace is patriotic! 
Michael Santomauro Editorial Director 253 West 72nd street #1711 
New York, NY 10023 RePortersNoteBook.com

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"U.S. GOV'T CREATED THE AIDS VIRUS"

http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/news/index.cfm?instanceid=53679

WORLD NEWS EXCLUSIVE By Kate McClare 

SAN DIEGO -- The U.S. government created the deadly AIDS virus as 
a way of wiping out blacks and other minorities around the world, 
says a researcher who's fought for 10 years to bring his eye-opening 
charge to light. 

Boyd E. Graves, a lawyer and graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy at
Annapolis, says he has "irrefutable evidence of the United States' 
secret plan to cull world populations by unleashing a stealth 
biological microorganism." 

Graves insists the AIDS virus was developed in an ultrasecret 
government project called the Special Virus Program. 

"We believe HIV is the product of intent. We believe AIDS is the 
product of design," he said in a telephone interview last month 
>from New York City, before addressing the Black African Holocaust 
Conference. 

According to a report from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control,
African-Americans account for 38 percent of all AIDS cases in 
this country -- yet they represent only 12 percent of the population. 
And the disease has attacked millions of people in Africa, which 
has suffered from the pandemic more than anywhere else in the world. 

AIDS is one of the most important weapons in the government arsenal 
of biological terrorism, declares Graves. He has filed a lawsuit in 
U.S. District Court in San Diego demanding an open review of the 
facts he's uncovered, including the two most shocking elements: 

- A Special Virus Flow Chart that details the government's"
coordinated research program to develop a cancer virus that depletes 
the immune system." 

- A photograph of a manmade virus that's virtually identical to the 
AIDS virus. Yet this photograph was shot in 1971 -- 14 years before 
the known AIDS virus was discovered. 

Graves also has documents from government and scientific leaders, 
which reveal sinister intentions on the part of scientists and 
government leaders. 

A 1948 memo from a top State Department official, for instance, 
urges colleagues to "get on with the task of dealing with the 
burgeoning populations of the Third World." 

For those who think the U.S. government would never do such a 
terrible thing to any of its people, Graves offers as evidence the 
horrendous revelations about the Tuskeegee Project. 

In that infamous program, which began in 1932, government 
researchers secretly infected black men with syphilis so they could 
study the disease -- even after a cure had been found. 

"Between 1964 and 1978, the secret federal virus program spent $550
million of taxpayer money to invent AIDS," Graves writes on his Web 
site, http://www.boydgraves.com 

"It is now necessary to spend whatever it takes to dismantle an
invention that has led to the greatest crime against humanity in the 
history of the world," he declares. 

http://www.boydgraves.com 

There's more in the current 1/7/03 Newsstand Issue on sale now! 

----------------

http://www.totse.com/en/conspiracy/the_aids_conspiracy/167565.html

U.S. FORCED TO OK LAWSUIT
 
By Boyd Graves, totse.com, 12/25/2002
 
In a November 20, 2002 letter from the Office of the Secretary of 
the United States Department of Health and Human Services, AIDS 
ORIGIN researcher, Boyd E. Graves, J.D. has been given sixty days 
to file suit in the U.S. federal court of his choosing. 

"The people have forced the right to sue the United States over 
their "creation", "production" and "proliferation" of HIV/AIDS through
the secret, federal virus development program, the U.S. Special (AIDS)
Virus program (1948 - 1978)." said Graves.

"The yearly progress reports of the secret program provide the
irrefutable narrative proof of the linkage of experiment to the
flowchart, "research logic" of the African Holocaust.

This best explains how Black people account for 13% of the 
population and 50% of all new AIDS cases." 

Graves, a civil rights lawyer and decorated US Navy veteran filed 
a similar complaint with Ohio's federal courts in 1998. 

After his 33 month legal battle and appeal to the US Supreme Court 
in 2001, Graves' lawsuit prompted Congress to request an investigation
into the missing appropriations of the secret federal virus
development
program Special Virus through the US General Accounting Office. 

The US government's official report was made public following the
terrorist attacks of September 11th and was highly criticized as a 
'total white-wash' by many independent investigators, including 
Professor Robert Lee and Harvard's Dr. Leonard G. Horowitz. 

Graves and his supporters say they are confident he evidence of the
laboratory birth of AIDS is irrefutable.

"We can show through the progress reports of the secret program, 
that the original name of HIV was ESP-1 virus, developed in accordance
with the phases of the flowchart." 

Graves said. "The United States purposefully and intentionally,
complemented the "small pox" vaccine that went to Africa and the 
"Hepatitis B" vaccine that was given to homosexuals that the United 
States recruited for that purpose." Graves said he is hopeful people 
support his efforts by downloading the 1971 flow chart document from 
his website www.boydgraves.com, and by writing to elected and 
appointed health officials. 

"We have found the well-spring of the genesis of AIDS," said Graves. 
"It is our nation state, it is us." 
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From: egwarman@outgun.com (EG Warman)
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> Quantrell (Austin Rayder) wrote ...
> > Ken McVay wrote ...
> > >> >EG Warman wrote:
> > >Ken McVay wrote...
> > >> >> 
> > >> >First, a "holocaust" is a 'burnt offering to some god'. To which 'god'
> > >> >do you refer. Priests perform "holocausts". Who were the "priests"
> > >> >who performed the so-called "holocaust - burnt offering" in the 1940's?
> > >> >The major book I would suggest is the TORH wherein Cain offered the 
> > >> >burnt offering - holocaust.  
> > >> 
> > >> Evasion noted, Mr. Warman. 
> > >
> > >Evasion by whom? You seem to have evaded the questions posed 
> > >regarding who were the priests who performed the burnt offering,
> > >"holocaust". An, you avoided telling us what to "god" the 
> > >sacrifice was made?
> > 
> > Evasion by you, Mr. Warman. You made a claim, and it's up to you to
> > back it up. You clearly can't do that, so you keep evading the issue.
> > 
> > Let me help you. You suggested that Jewish historians didn't agree
> > with Gentile historians with respect to the Holocaust. I asked you for
> > comparision and citations.
> > 
> > You ran away.
> > 
> > Now please demonstrate that Jewish historians differ from 
> > Gentile historians wrt?? (wrote about, maybe) the Holocaust.
> > >> 
> > >How about the English historian, David Irving? And, his book
> > >"Hitler's War"?  Oh yes, I forgot, the Zionist Jews have "debunked"
> > >him - like any "goy" who happens to uncover the truth of their 
> > >treachery. 
> > 
> > David Irving is not a historian - he's a legally certified falsifier
> > of history, liar, antisemite and racist. 
> > 
> > Do try again.
> > 
> > >> Do try to pay attention, Mr. Warman. Since you raised the issue, 
> > >> I was certain you would be prepared to support your contention.
> > >> 
> > >> I'll just sit here and wait while you upload your proofs.
> > >>  
> > >No point in wasting my time trying to convince an evil idiot
> > >that black is black and white is white... 
> > 
> > Evasion noted. Mr. Warman refuses to back up his mouth with facts. I'm
> > not the least surprised.
> > 
> > >> >> >> Nonsense. The racism inherent to Holocaust denial is clear - vivid,
> > >> >> >> actually - to anyone familiar with deniers and their claims.
> > >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >Would you explain to what "RACE" you refer? Race is gramatically
> > >> >> >divided by colour. Which coloured race do you refer? I believe
> > >> >> >Jews have referred to themselves as a "mongrel race" -which in 
> > >> >> >itself is an oxymoron. And, "holocaust" is a burnt offering.
> > >> >> >Who has the ego to think that they are the elite of the world
> > >> >> >except Zionists - the high priests of Lucifer. So, it is obvious
> > >> >> >that, if there was a "holocaust" committed in WW2 period, it was
> > >> >> >performed by these "high priests". Many Jews believe that is the 
> > >> >> >case: http://www.rense.com/general32/next.htm
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> Look up "racism" in a dictionary, Mr. Warman. It's right next to
> > >> >> "lizards."
> > >> >> 
> > >> >Neat attempt by a queer at posing a "red herring" I would suggest.
> > >> 
> > >> Please post your evidence that I am "a queer," Mr. Warman, and
> > >> remember the libel laws.
> > >> 
> > >You certainly are on a "queer" path to oblivion - is that "queer enough?
> > >Oh, I forgot, you Zionists have skewed that word to mean a typical
> > >Zionist - a male cocksucker. Now, I understand your concern....
> > 
> > Mr. Warman runs away again. Perhaps a libel suit didn't suit him?
> > 
> > >> Then explain why you don't want to look "racism" up in the dictionary.
> > >> 
> > >> I'll wait.
> > >> 
> > >Who wrote, or edited the dictionary to which you would have me explore?
> > 
> > Evasion noted, Mr. Warman. 
> > 
> > >(Remainder of Mc-OyVey useless drivel content clipped)
> > 
> > Mr. Warman runs away again, and prefers not to deal with questions
> > which could well land him before a Judge.
> > 
> > Mr. Warman is a bigot, and a coward.
> > He hasn't changed a bit.
> 
> Ken,
> 
> Thanks for your post which confirms for us again that Eldon Warman is
> more than a little off his rocker.
> 
> Austin Rayder "Q"

Let's see the motivations behind Rayder, and his other pseudonym, McVay:

http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/417.html

NOFORNDIS March 26, 1993
TOP SECRET - CODEWORD: CABLESPLICE

- TOP SECRET - - TOP SECRET -

SUBJECT: An Aggressive Program to Counter The Disrupters Movement

Poster's note: Disrupters - Read "the Detaxers"

SUMMARY:

Recent efforts by The Disrupters Movement to gain political influence 
are beginning to seriously and adversely affect public perceptions 
and understanding of ongoing programs aimed at smoothing the transfer 
of sovereignty and power from national governments to super-national 
statist organizations.  Unless such efforts are countered and 
discredited, the task of creating a unified global government under 
UN control will be far more difficult.  The most dangerous element of 
The Disrupters Movement are those that are part of the Christian 
Fundamentalist majority.  The following memorandum offers a set of 
policy prescriptions designed to counter-act their efforts.

ANALYSIS OF PROBLEM

Although there has always been opposition from groups and individuals 
with a conservative, isolationist attitude, the recent growth of such 
opposition, and the ability and organizational success of these 
groups has raised serious concern in recent years.  Unless steps are 
taken to meet the challenge posed by The Disrupters Movement, it is 
possible that these groups could make serious inroads into the public 
complacence which has been so carefully nurtured over the past fifty 
years.

(Clipped for brevity) See thread: 
Christians - Have We Got A Plan For You

IV.  Other Propaganda Efforts

A.  (clipped for brevity)

B.  Electronic/Computer Systems: Electronic computer systems, 
bulletin boards, and information superhighway (Internet) in general 
is an area of considerable importance to efforts to combat the 
activities of The Disrupters Movement.  The ability of opponents to 
utilize computer bulletin boards to pass information and educate 
people must be met with an active program of disinformation and attack.

1.  One means of countering the effectiveness of such opposition 
efforts is the simple expedient of overloading their bulletin 
boards.  A single operator with one computer can set a program in 
motion that will send out thousands of messages.  The sheer volume 
of such messages is more important than the content.  Most people 
will give up rather than read through hundreds and thousands of 
messages.

2.  A second means of countering the opposition's use of computer 
technology is through the careful placing of disinformation agents.  
Such agents can take two forms:

a.  Agents may be placed who will simply argue against the 
opposition, using delaying and confusing tactics such as constantly 
demanding references and "proof" of allegations, referring to obscure 
and difficult to find documents as evidence that the opposition is 
wrong, and generally forcing the opposition to waste tremendous 
amounts of time simply defending itself from spurious and irrelevant 
attacks.

b.  Other agents have been placed with a more subtle purpose in 
mind.  Such agents would take on the persona and attitude of members 
of The Disrupters Movement, but would present the opposition's case 
in ways that will ultimately discredit them.  The necessary effort to 
correct the messages posted by these agents, and the resulting 
appearance of disarray within the their camp should present 
considerable opportunities for further assaults on The Disrupters 
Movement.

3.  In cases of computer networks where it is highly imperative that 
the efforts of The Disrupters be neutralized, coordinated assaults 
can be arranged using aliases and multiple membership IDs to present 
a wide array of negative and meddlesome messages.

(Clipped for brevity)

Also found here in original text:
http://www.darkconspiracy.com/conspiracies/nwo/agg.txt

Posted by:

Eldon Warman, Disrupter Extraordinaire
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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From: egwarman@outgun.com (EG Warman)
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Subject: Re: The vitriolic racism that is Holocaust denial
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Ken McVay (AKA: Quantrell) wrote...
> 
> Still running, eh, Mr. Warman? Why are you so afraid to answer the
> questions I asked you?
> 
> Is it difficult to slink with that tail between your legs?

There is a big difference between Zionist PIGSHIT, and "questions".

The motivation behind the likes of McVay, and other pseudonyms
of these cowardly thugs and traitors:

http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/417.html

NOFORNDIS March 26, 1993
TOP SECRET - CODEWORD: CABLESPLICE

- TOP SECRET - - TOP SECRET -

SUBJECT: An Aggressive Program to Counter The Disrupters Movement

Poster's note: Disrupters - Read "the Detaxers"

SUMMARY:

Recent efforts by The Disrupters Movement to gain political influence 
are beginning to seriously and adversely affect public perceptions 
and understanding of ongoing programs aimed at smoothing the transfer 
of sovereignty and power from national governments to super-national 
statist organizations.  Unless such efforts are countered and 
discredited, the task of creating a unified global government under 
UN control will be far more difficult.  The most dangerous element of 
The Disrupters Movement are those that are part of the Christian 
Fundamentalist majority.  The following memorandum offers a set of 
policy prescriptions designed to counter-act their efforts.

ANALYSIS OF PROBLEM

Although there has always been opposition from groups and individuals 
with a conservative, isolationist attitude, the recent growth of such 
opposition, and the ability and organizational success of these 
groups has raised serious concern in recent years.  Unless steps are 
taken to meet the challenge posed by The Disrupters Movement, it is 
possible that these groups could make serious inroads into the public 
complacence which has been so carefully nurtured over the past fifty 
years.

(Clipped for brevity) See thread: 
Christians - Have We Got A Plan For You

IV.  Other Propaganda Efforts

A.  (clipped for brevity)

B.  Electronic/Computer Systems: Electronic computer systems, 
bulletin boards, and information superhighway (Internet) in general 
is an area of considerable importance to efforts to combat the 
activities of The Disrupters Movement.  The ability of opponents to 
utilize computer bulletin boards to pass information and educate 
people must be met with an active program of disinformation and attack.

1.  One means of countering the effectiveness of such opposition 
efforts is the simple expedient of overloading their bulletin 
boards.  A single operator with one computer can set a program in 
motion that will send out thousands of messages.  The sheer volume 
of such messages is more important than the content.  Most people 
will give up rather than read through hundreds and thousands of 
messages.

2.  A second means of countering the opposition's use of computer 
technology is through the careful placing of disinformation agents.  
Such agents can take two forms:

a.  Agents may be placed who will simply argue against the 
opposition, using delaying and confusing tactics such as constantly 
demanding references and "proof" of allegations, referring to obscure 
and difficult to find documents as evidence that the opposition is 
wrong, and generally forcing the opposition to waste tremendous 
amounts of time simply defending itself from spurious and irrelevant 
attacks.

b.  Other agents have been placed with a more subtle purpose in 
mind.  Such agents would take on the persona and attitude of members 
of The Disrupters Movement, but would present the opposition's case 
in ways that will ultimately discredit them.  The necessary effort to 
correct the messages posted by these agents, and the resulting 
appearance of disarray within the their camp should present 
considerable opportunities for further assaults on The Disrupters 
Movement.

3.  In cases of computer networks where it is highly imperative that 
the efforts of The Disrupters be neutralized, coordinated assaults 
can be arranged using aliases and multiple membership IDs to present 
a wide array of negative and meddlesome messages.

(Clipped for brevity)

Also found here in original text:
http://www.darkconspiracy.com/conspiracies/nwo/agg.txt

Eldon Warman, Disrupter Extraordinaire
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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kmcvay@vex.net (Ken McVay) wrote in message news:...
> In article <2005a7f1.0301080812.25dc0564@posting.google.com>,
> EG Warman  wrote:
> >"U.S. GOV'T CREATED THE AIDS VIRUS"
> 
> It must have been those Wascally Juice, eh, Mr. Warman?

Let's see the motivations behind Rayder, and his other pseudonym, McVay:

http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/417.html

NOFORNDIS March 26, 1993
TOP SECRET - CODEWORD: CABLESPLICE

- TOP SECRET - - TOP SECRET -

SUBJECT: An Aggressive Program to Counter The Disrupters Movement

Poster's note: Disrupters - Read "the Detaxers"

SUMMARY:

Recent efforts by The Disrupters Movement to gain political influence 
are beginning to seriously and adversely affect public perceptions 
and understanding of ongoing programs aimed at smoothing the transfer 
of sovereignty and power from national governments to super-national 
statist organizations.  Unless such efforts are countered and 
discredited, the task of creating a unified global government under 
UN control will be far more difficult.  The most dangerous element of 
The Disrupters Movement are those that are part of the Christian 
Fundamentalist majority.  The following memorandum offers a set of 
policy prescriptions designed to counter-act their efforts.

ANALYSIS OF PROBLEM

Although there has always been opposition from groups and individuals 
with a conservative, isolationist attitude, the recent growth of such 
opposition, and the ability and organizational success of these 
groups has raised serious concern in recent years.  Unless steps are 
taken to meet the challenge posed by The Disrupters Movement, it is 
possible that these groups could make serious inroads into the public 
complacence which has been so carefully nurtured over the past fifty 
years.

(Clipped for brevity) See thread: 
Christians - Have We Got A Plan For You

IV.  Other Propaganda Efforts

A.  (clipped for brevity)

B.  Electronic/Computer Systems: Electronic computer systems, 
bulletin boards, and information superhighway (Internet) in general 
is an area of considerable importance to efforts to combat the 
activities of The Disrupters Movement.  The ability of opponents to 
utilize computer bulletin boards to pass information and educate 
people must be met with an active program of disinformation and attack.

1.  One means of countering the effectiveness of such opposition 
efforts is the simple expedient of overloading their bulletin 
boards.  A single operator with one computer can set a program in 
motion that will send out thousands of messages.  The sheer volume 
of such messages is more important than the content.  Most people 
will give up rather than read through hundreds and thousands of 
messages.

2.  A second means of countering the opposition's use of computer 
technology is through the careful placing of disinformation agents.  
Such agents can take two forms:

a.  Agents may be placed who will simply argue against the 
opposition, using delaying and confusing tactics such as constantly 
demanding references and "proof" of allegations, referring to obscure 
and difficult to find documents as evidence that the opposition is 
wrong, and generally forcing the opposition to waste tremendous 
amounts of time simply defending itself from spurious and irrelevant 
attacks.

b.  Other agents have been placed with a more subtle purpose in 
mind.  Such agents would take on the persona and attitude of members 
of The Disrupters Movement, but would present the opposition's case 
in ways that will ultimately discredit them.  The necessary effort to 
correct the messages posted by these agents, and the resulting 
appearance of disarray within the their camp should present 
considerable opportunities for further assaults on The Disrupters 
Movement.

3.  In cases of computer networks where it is highly imperative that 
the efforts of The Disrupters be neutralized, coordinated assaults 
can be arranged using aliases and multiple membership IDs to present 
a wide array of negative and meddlesome messages.

(Clipped for brevity)

Also found here in original text:
http://www.darkconspiracy.com/conspiracies/nwo/agg.txt

Eldon Warman, Disrupter Extraordinaire
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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"Jeff T"  wrote in message news:...
> Hahahahahahaha!
> 
> Tell me this was for our entertainment purposes, 'cause if you actually
> believe this crook, I have a bridge for sale.

You are obviously too stupid to know what a bridge looks like!

Eldon Warman


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kmcvay@vex.net (Ken McVay) wrote in message news:...
> In article <2005a7f1.0301081546.374d3ce@posting.google.com>,
> EG Warman  wrote:
> >Ken McVay (AKA: Quantrell) wrote...
> >> 
> >> Still running, eh, Mr. Warman? Why are you so afraid to answer the
> >> questions I asked you?
> >> 
> >> Is it difficult to slink with that tail between your legs?
> >
> >There is a big difference between Zionist PIGSHIT, and "questions".
> 
> Evasion and gutter language noted, Mr. Warman.
> 
> Now back to those questions you're so afraid to answer:
> 
> On January 7, 2003, you responded to comments of mine in this manner:
> 
> "Neat attempt by a queer at posing a 'red herring' I would suggest."
> 
> Do you have evidence that I am a "queer," Mr. Warman?
> Are you asserting that I am a homosexual?
> 
Only if you wish to use that slang meaning for the word.

> "I have better things to do than read the rantings of a pedophile 
> queer who spouts the treason of Zionism?"
> 
> Are you asserting that I am a pedophile, Mr. Warman? If so, be advised
> that I take such defamatory remarks very seriously, and fully intend
> to require you to justify this assertion before a Canadian court.
> 
Only if the "shoe fits". It seems that many others on these NGs 
seem to think that you have that problem - I have no knowledge
of it, only your lack of refutation of such accusations by others.

> "Why is TRUTH heard as "babble" by you Queer Zionist Jews..."
> 
> Are you asserting that I am a homosexual, Mr. Warman, or that I
> am Jewish?
> 
I don't really think you know who or what you are. I am not "asserting
anything" - just recognizing a duck as being a duck.

> "You mean the same sort of 'gutter trash' that play with little boys,
> and use scam tax exemptions to use Canadian scammed income tax 
> to further the vicious Zionist pogroms of America."
> 
> Are you asserting that I am a pedophile, Mr. Warman? If so, be advised
> that I take such defamatory remarks very seriously, and fully intend
> to require you to justify this assertion before a Canadian court.
> 
> Are you asserting that I am involved in a tax "scam," Mr. Warman? If
> so, please prepare yourself to prove it in a court of law.
> 
> Now, Mr. Warman, why don't you quit running away, and either back up
> your big mouth with *facts*, or admit you're a mudslinging hatemonger
> without a shred of evidence behind you?
> 
Hmm....  from another post on this NG regarding ken McVay:

Subject: Re:McVay/Nizkor:We Cheat ZHIDS,CCRA,IRS,etc.;So What? 
Newsgroups: can.general, tor.general, can.taxes
Date: 2003-01-07 09:43:04 PST 

Posted by: Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
Henry who like
late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.

CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: boris@movil.com , or even
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting and car theft 
in California and Oregon, the well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay 
of Vancouver, also a convicted car thief and all round molester,
and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the Canadian 
branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know about all his fellow criminals 
and perverts. Here is the latest.......

From: timguegen@NAMBLA.org
Subject: Re:NIZKOR/MCVAY SWINDLE CCRA - ALSO JEWS!!!
Date: Wed,  9 May 2001 20:59:21 +0200 (CEST)
From: NIZKOR WATCH                                                    
    .
Subject: WWW.NIZKOR.ORG IS A TAX SCAM AND YOU, THE TAX PAYER, ARE 
FOOTING THE BILL!
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:46:30 -0600

One must wonder, who in CCRA is on the take, that they do not 
prosecute for JEW TAX FRAUDS, such as McVay/NIZKOR, or the BRONFMANS??

Straight from CCRA: "we have no record of a registered charity by 
the name of Nizkor.org."

THIS  POST  FILED  WITH  CCRA

FOREWORD: Canadian revenue payers you need to contact CCRA and ask 
them how a website is able to receive "exempt donations" when it is 
neither a registered charity or a Non Profit Organization.

In a new development, victims of the false NIZKOR charitable 
donation tax receipts may now contact a senior official of CCRA 
(Canadian IRS).

Call Mr.Philippe Robert
Special Investigations - Charities - CCRA
Phone : 1-800-267-2384, or 1-613-946-2423

The equivalent with IRS in the USA,
2 phone numbers for: IRS Criminal Investigations H.O.
1-800-829-0433 or, 202-622-7796

Looks like McVay/NIZKOR, as well as related crooks will soon be 
joining their buddies in the slammer.

A letter (included below) from CCRA advises me they never heard of 
NIZKOR.ORG so you all should be asking how Nizkor is offering:
"Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt" when 
it is nothing more than a website!

It's YOUR tax dollars financing a man who pays HIMSELF to defame 
private citizens!

http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml
Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation Canadian receipt)

CCRA said: "we have no record of a registered charity by the name of
Nizkor.org." (Letter included below) Only registered charities are
allowed to issue "Canadian receipts"!!

"A registered charity is a charity that has specifically applied to 
the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency for registration and has been 
accepted as such. A registered charity can issue charitable receipts 
for tax purposes." CCRA rule included below with web link for 
verification!

THE ONE-CREATURE BUSINESS, RUN BY MCVAY SOLELY TO LINE HIS POCKETS, 
IN NO WAY IS A CHARITY AS SPECIFIED BY LAW!!!

	~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From: Charity webmail 
Sender: "Langdon, Blaine" 
To: Scott Bradbury 
Subject: Registered charity question.
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:23:26 -0500
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)

Thank you for your e-mail.

The Charities Directorate of the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency 
is responsible for the registration and compliance of charities in 
Canada. These organizations are similar to "exempt organizations"
as are registered in the United States. However, we have no record 
of a registered charity by the name of Nizkor.org.

Additionally, due to the confidentiality provisions of the Canadian 
Income Tax Act, I am unable to disclose information concerning a 
particular organization's tax affairs, including measures taken or 
to be taken by the Department resulting from complaints. However, 
I wish to assure you that all complaints received by the Department 
are treated seriously and are fully investigated, where appropriate.

Finally, the annual information returns of Canadian registered 
charities are available to the public. However, as you will note 
>from the above, Nizkor.org is not a registered charity.
The non-profit information return which you describe is not available 
to the public.

Thank you for bringing your concerns to our attention.

Sincerely,
Blaine Langdon
Charities Directorate

~~~~END~~~~

LURKERS: here is how Ken McVay and his Nizkor business is robbing you:

Folks I am getting CCRA's attention and you all should be putting
forth
the effort to find out just how and why a "website" receives "exempt
donations" and the proprietor "pays himself" from such donations and 
also his website has issued "tax receipts." This is a scam which bilks
the Canadian Tax Payer!

LOOK!

http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/tax/nonprofit/menu-e.html
Non-profit organizations - Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency

Remember Canadian Tax Payers -
It is YOU who is subsidizing Nizkor!
Do you want your tax dollar subsidizing this web site?

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Nizkor=&rnum=16&seld=909625816&ic
=1&filter=0
From: kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,can.general,tor.general,on.general
Subject: Re: ATTENTION NIZKOR: Income Tax Guide to the Non-Profit
Organization (NPO) Information Return Form T1044
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <99oro0$259r$1@news.tht.net>
References: 
<3abfe742$0$195@news.impulse.net>

On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC), kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org
(Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:

>Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website.

Glad to see you making that a public record. Care to explain how a 
website not being either an "NPO nor a Charity" can operate as you
do and issue tax deduction receipts?

No personal attacks now McVay because I WILL HOLD YOUR FEET TO THE 
FIRE! I think CCRA would be interested in what you just declared too!

Personal attack is all people have when they can't argue their
position!
Has everyone ever noticed that trait in people who have something to 
hide?

Why do you accept "exempt donations" and issue tax receipts you bold 
faced liar and sleaze bag? Answer that instead of making with the 
wise cracks.

You are NOT allowed by law to grant tax receipts according to CCRA 
statutes which you so conveniently deleted. The more you act like 
a pompous arrogant ass - the more it makes me want to put you in 
your place.

YOU ARE A LIAR!

Canadian revenue payers take note of this sleazer!
He's being subsidized at your expense!

What sleaze bag McVay deleted because he doesn't want to deal with it:

http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/E/pub/tg/t4117eq/t4117eq.html#P131_12645

Income Tax Guide to the Non-Profit Organization (NPO)
Information Return Includes Form T1044
Visually impaired persons can get information on services available 
to them, and can order publications in braille or large print, or 
on audio cassette or computer diskette, by calling 1-800-267-1267 
weekdays from 8:15 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. (Eastern Time).

[...]

An NPO described in paragraph 149(1)(l) of the Income Tax Act is 
a club,society, or association that is organized and operated solely 
for:

social welfare;
civic improvement;
pleasure or recreation;
or any other purpose except profit.

Also, no part of the income of these organizations can be payable to 
or otherwise available for the personal benefit of any proprietor, 
member, or shareholder, unless the proprietor, member, or shareholder 
was a club, society,or association whose primary purpose was to 
promote amateur athletics in Canada.

<>

Distinguishing non-profit organizations from registered charities
An NPO is not a registered charity. A registered charity is a charity 
that has specifically applied to the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency
for registration and has been ACCEPTED by CCRA  as such.

A registered charity can issue charitable receipts for tax purposes. 
An NPO does not have to register either federally or provincially to 
maintain its privileged tax status.

Generally, registered charities also have to disburse 80% of the 
funds for which they issued charitable receipts on their own 
charitable activities or as gifts to qualified donees.

NPOs cannot issue tax receipts for donations or membership fees 
contributed, and they are not required to disburse a specified 
percentage of their earnings. 

Notice what CCRA said about "issu[ing] charitable receipts for tax 
purposes"? Look at McVay's operation and see if it complies with 
the law stated above:
"NPOs cannot issue tax receipts for donations.."
yet Ken McVay's very own BUSINESS - NIZKOR page says:
"Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt."
Ken McVay also claims that NIZKOR is NOT a charity as shown down 
further in this post.

http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml
Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html

The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation 
with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada. The League 
is a national volunteer organization dedicated to combatting 
antisemitism, racism and bigotry, and to promoting human rights
for all Canadians.

Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their donation 
may call B'nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224, and advise the 
receptionist that they wish to make a donation to the Nizkor Project;
If you prefer, you can print this form and send to:

The Nizkor Project
c/o
The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
15 Hove Street
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8

Name:________________________________________
Street Address:________________________________________________
City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
E-Mail Address:_________________________________
Amount Enclosed: $___________

Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights 
of B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to 
the cheque's memo section. A portion of amounts donated to the 
Trust Fund is used to build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you 
prefer that all of your donation be invested for Nizkor's future 
needs, please earmark your cheque or draft with the notation
'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only.

(All bequests should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund,
Care of The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)

Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
[#0235903-43-13]

-----------------------

Notice what is said above?
Look what Ken Mcvay has said not too long ago:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=charity=&rnum=4&seld=955885050&ic=1
From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: JEWS DUMPED FAG MCVAY!!!
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 2000-12-05 13:46:34 PST

"McVay/Nizkor" has never issued tax receipts of any sort,
Mr.Grosvenor, so it's rather silly to suggest we got "caught at it."



Notice how McVay says one thing and then says another? His very own 
"website" says: "Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax 
receipt."  http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
Yet in the post just above McVay said:
"McVay/Nizkor" has never issued tax receipts of any sort,
Mr. Grosvenor, so it's rather silly to suggest we got "caught at it."

McVay is a LIAR anyway you look at it! I provided the links to all 
of my proofs so that you all, the concerned citizenry may verify 
my claims.

It is also plain that McVay does not claim Nizkor to be a charitable
organization as shown here:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=charitable=&rnum=1&seld=943267125&ic=1
From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: Is Ken McVay's WWW.NIZKOR.ORG A Sham
Which Gets its Director Spending Money? R 2
Date: 2001-01-06 00:00:08 PST

In article <8kjd5t0el7tbd9lv4o7tsg7hii3qmsgns9@4ax.com>,
Doc Tavish   wrote:
>We know that the Nizkor website relies on charitable donations 
in order to survive. We also accept that any organization whose 
survival depends on charitable donations should make its records 
open to the public. Will Ken McVay answer these questions as he 
is the sole director of Nizkor!

How does Mr. Bradbury "know" these things?
How does Mr. Bradbury "know" that Nizkor is a "charitable
organization?" (Can he show that anyone from Nizkor has
ever claimed to be such an organization?)



Well now we know Nizkor is not a "charitable organization"
so it has to be an NPO?!
So why does Ken McVay's NPO declare at its web page:
"Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt"
which would be in violation of: "NPOs cannot issue tax
receipts for donations" but Ken McVay lies to a person
who's an object of his smear campaign: "McVay/Nizkor" has
never issued tax receipts of any sort.."
Then again KcVay admitted higher up in this post:
"Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website."
See how NIZKOR skirts all criteria of the tax laws?

Does Nizkor or does Nizkor not look crooked?

Seeing how Ken McVay's Nizkor accepts "exempt donation[s]"
it would be interesting to see why the Canadian Government
actually approves an organization with such tax status to
operate under the conditions Ken McVay's Nizkor does.
To this very day Ken McVay will not answer these
questions:

1) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
2) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
3) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
4) Where can one find the organizational papers for Nizkor?
  a) How many people compose the Nizkor staff?
     According to ex-staffers who have posted articles to newsgroups, 
    McVay IS THE
SOLE PAID EMPLOYEE OF THE BUSINESS!!!
  b) What are the financial responsibilities of Nizkor?
5) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorized to
   solicit tax free contributions?
6) How much money does Nizkor Org receive yearly as charitable
donations?
7) You show below that you pay yourself-- what is your yearly pay?

Subject: Re: How much of a cut does the B'nai Brith get from Nizkor?
Date: 05/08/2000
Author: Kenneth McVay, OBC 

>f) Does Ken McVay pay himself a salary for his work for Nizkor?

Yup - I also appreciate revenue from public speaking and site
advertising.

~~~~~~~End Archival Excerpt~~~~~~

8) Is Nizkor proper (it's office and main facilities)
   located in a back room of your own residence as this says?
http://www.Xgeocities.com/dcjarviks/Idler/vIn15.htmlX
(Remove the X's to view the site, this is to help prevent
McVay from spamming the search engines. Link active March 24, 2001)

"A Voyage to Nanaimo-- It takes two hours to cross the
Georgia Strait by ferry from Vancouver, British Columbia,
another half-hour by jitney from the Nanaimo terminal to
reach the home of Kenneth N. McVay, webmaster for
The Nizkor Project . The address is an ordinary
suburban split-level in a middle-class neighborhood.
There is nothing distinctive about its location. ....
I am taken to a back room, filled with computer equipment,
monitors, and books... Seated in front of the array is
McVay, apparently a 50-something computer nerd. He is
tall, thin, with short hair and glasses, wired to the
world through his ISP. The Nizkor project which McVay
runs from this room in the back of his house... " 

A question for all reading this:
How many organizations which receive charitable
contributions operate from the backroom of the
director's home? He claims to be non-profit and
it appears that he would have a low overhead--
so how much money does Ken McVay receive for
his backroom operation?
Why won't Ken McVay make public his budget?

9) What sort of legitimate organization keeps
files on private citizens and publicly defames
people on its "hit list" as Nizkor does?

"Canada's Very Own Nizkor's Lies, Smears, and Defamation Answered"
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=5&seld=921850669&ic=1
"Pathological Liar Tubby Edeiken's Perjured Fabricated Evidence"

To continually propagate information which has been
proven false, perjurious, and fabricated and by a person
who incited murder against the person he has litigated
is most deplorable BUT this is what Ken McVay's Nizkor
does with "exempt donation[s]."
An organization such as Nizkor would not be able to
operate in this manner in the United States
and perhaps this is why Ken McVay left the
United States to operate from Canada!>>

Time will tell. Those interested in finding out why
Nizkor can operate in this manner should contact:
http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/contact/
which is the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency.

Nizkor would not be allowed to operate in the manner
it does in America and perhaps this is why Ken McVay,
director of Nizkor, diverts attention
>from having an American money pot!

[...]

For those who are curious, here the details of

the neutral people behind Mr Mazal:
His above website is registered by the
"San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" c/o BASIC of
600 Sandau Suite 400,
San Antonio, TX 78216, in Texas, USA.
The billing contact is Mr Harry Mazal of the same address:
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC,
600 Sandau, Suite 400, San Antonio, TX 78216,
and their phone number is 210-377-2422.
Somebody might like to check them out in more details.
We will be happy in the spirit of openness to post all
that we are told of these people.
It is the old Nizkor gang at work again.

	~~~~END~~~~

Again- Canadian tax payers- do you wish to subsidize Ken McVay?

					Doc Tavish
End quote
#####################################################

Is the above a correct portrayal of ken McVay? I don't
know. But, he certainly hasn't presented any evidence to the contrary.

> 
> Warman, Eldon. Subject: "Re: The vitriolic racism that is Holocaust
> denial", UseNet Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.general,can.taxes,
> can.legal, Message-ID <2005a7f1.0301071028.1f1bdc61@posting.google.com>

Let's see where McVay, Rayder, and other Damage Control Goons
for the Zionist New World Odor originate:

*************************************************************
http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/417.html

NOFORNDIS March 26, 1993
TOP SECRET - CODEWORD: CABLESPLICE

- TOP SECRET - - TOP SECRET -

SUBJECT: An Aggressive Program to Counter The Disrupters Movement

SUMMARY:

Recent efforts by The Disrupters Movement to gain political influence 
are beginning to seriously and adversely affect public perceptions 
and understanding of ongoing programs aimed at smoothing the transfer 
of sovereignty and power from national governments to super-national 
statist organizations.  Unless such efforts are countered and 
discredited, the task of creating a unified global government under 
UN control will be far more difficult.  The most dangerous element of 
The Disrupters Movement are those that are part of the Christian 
Fundamentalist majority.  The following memorandum offers a set of 
policy prescriptions designed to counter-act their efforts.

ANALYSIS OF PROBLEM

Although there has always been opposition from groups and individuals 
with a conservative, isolationist attitude, the recent growth of such 
opposition, and the ability and organizational success of these 
groups has raised serious concern in recent years.  Unless steps are 
taken to meet the challenge posed by The Disrupters Movement, it is 
possible that these groups could make serious inroads into the public 
complacence which has been so carefully nurtured over the past fifty 
years.

The threat is two-fold.  First, there is the traditional conservative 
political threat, one which can be traced back to pre-WWII 
isolationism and political conservatism.  These groups are not of 
particular concern as their organizing ability and numbers do not 
suggest the capability for amassing significant political power.

It is the second category, the "Christian fundamentalists," that pose 
the greatest threat.  These people are representative of a massive 
population of Americans and if allowed to propagandize and organize 
that base could present serious obstacles to further progress.

I.  Overt Programs: Overt programs to counter growing influence of 
Christian and other groups should take various forms:

A.  An active effort aimed at promoting the benefits of global 
organizations and institutions.  Media stories, books, conferences, 
and other means should be utilized to get the story out in 
appropriate fashion.

Appearances

B.  Appearances by political figures, well-known celebrities and 
other influential figures at events connected to international and 
super-national organizations and institutions.  Of particular use are 
events which involve "feel-good" operations such as UNICEF, Feed the 
Children, Americares, etc.

C.  Promotion of peaceful uses of atomic energy, disarmament as a 
necessary condition to peace and security, and tolerance and 
acceptance of non-Christian faiths should be promoted consistently 
but with enough subtlety so as not to turn off the targeted 
populations.

   1.Under no circumstances, however, should such efforts be allowed 
to raise fears regarding these goals, nor should they provide 
substantive evidence of the true objectives of USG policy.

   2.An important means of developing support for disarmament and the 
reliance on the United Nations to impose global order is through 
raising fears of nuclear weapons.  By playing up the danger of 
nuclear war, it should be possible to generate considerable public 
support for further movement toward the disarmament of national 
states.  This diverts attention from the real nature of the 
disarmament effort by portraying it as necessary to world peace, 
rather than as a step on the road to world government.

D.  A massive attack on The Disrupters Movement, and especially 
Christian religious groups.  This assault would challenge them as 
intolerant, hateful, exclusionist, and potentially dangerous.
Such a program would include the following:

  1.Efforts should be made to falsely portray their objectives as the 
creation of a religious theocracy and the imposition of strict 
religious interpretation of the Bible as the basis for political 
participation in "the New Christian America." This can best be 
accomplished by focusing on the most outrageous and extremist 
statements and members, while downplaying the more moderate 
membership.

  2."Christian" groups should whenever possible be portrayed as 
fringe elements of the country's religious population, not especially 
numerous and certainly not representative of "most" Christians.

  3.At every opportunity these "Christian" groups should be presented 
as vicious, intolerant, and especially as anti-
semitic.  The selective use of quotes, and if necessary, the use of 
invented statements, can be a most effective means of accomplishing 
this task.

  4.Arrest either on criminal charges or on mental inquest warrants 
certain members of The Disrupters Movement who by their fanatical 
religious life-styles and/or their EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS would be 
psychologically and physically prepared to survive outside of 
government control.

5.Harassment on criminal charges or mental inquest warrants of those 
who listen to and/or sympathize with The Disrupters Movement.

II.  Covert Programs: Covert programs may be equally as important, 
if not more so, to countering the increasing effectiveness of The 
Disrupters Movement.

A.  Infiltration of The Disrupters Movement by sympathetic agents 
is an extremely useful tool in combatting their efforts.

1.  By carrying out extreme acts, and especially acts of violence, 
such individuals can bring discredit and public condemnation against 
The Disrupters Movement.

2.  By raising confusion, and carefully encouraging splits and 
controversy within The Disrupters Movement, such agents will be able 
to reduce the effectiveness and coherency of those groups.

B.  Individuals who have been groomed to operate outside the usual 
channels of political activity should be activated and placed in 
positions in which they appear to be in opposition to USG policy.

1.  These persons would speak out publically in opposition to our 
policies, but would in fact be sympathetic to our long-
term objectives.  By carefully and selectively providing false or 
misleading information, and information of a seemingly scandalous or 
dramatic nature, they would seem to be supporting the agenda of The 
Disrupters Movement.  But when the information they promulgated was 
shown to be patently false, it would further damage the credibility 
of the opposition.

2.  The use of certain talk radio personalities along the lines 
suggested in paragraph 1 has already proven quite effective and 
further ventures along these lines could be beneficial.

3.  In extreme situations, it may become useful or even necessary for 
these undercover assets to carry out certain operations against 
members of The Disrupters Movement who are interfering with 
CABLESPLICE.  In some cases, terminations with extreme prejudice may 
be called for.

C.  Subversion and Elimination of the Second Amendment 1.  One of the 
most critical efforts must be the removal of firearms from individual 
control.  The on-going long-term program to accomplish this is 
beginning to bear fruit and further efforts along current lines are 
advised.

a.  The use of "agent provocateurs," individuals who are seemingly 
insane (but who are never taken alive) who create highly publicized 
mass killings with automatic weapons has been particularly useful in 
molding public opinion.  Similarly, the regular use of random 
killings in large urban areas as a way of creating a climate of fear 
and violence has resulted in significant gains for the gun-control 
point of view. Such programs are extremely useful and shold be 
continued and possibly expanded.

b.  On-going efforts to gain small footholds in gun-control are 
worthwhile as they open the door to further controls later on.  
The importance of eliminating the Second Amendment right to bear 
firearms cannot be stressed too much.

III.  Disinformation Programs: These programs should be designed to 
carefully seed the media with false and misleading information about 
long-term goals and plans, as well as forged and deceptive details 
about The Disrupters Movement.

A.  Careful and selective placement of spurious and potentially 
damaging news stories in the popular media is an excellent means of 
raising doubts and fears in the minds of the population.  Our 
opponents have made good use of this technique, we should do likewise.

B.  One of the most effective disinformation programs has been the 
selected use of "expose" books and stories, all reputedly written by 
former government and super-government officials, but in fact 
developed within the NSA and CIA.

1.  Connections to actual government operations, and the bona fides 
of such expose authors are deliberately vague in order to make 
tracing and verifying their stories difficult.

2.  Although the books and information "exposed" would seemingly be 
extremely critical of our long-term programs and objectives, the 
contradictions contained within, the difficulty of verifying either 
authors or details, and the wild-eyed style verging on the irrational 
would all work to discredit and raise doubts.

3.  The presentation of fringe and extremist religious doctrine and 
beliefs, or the presentation of Christian religious beliefs in 
particularly dogmatic and intolerant fashion, would help to turn 
popular opinion against The Disrupter Movement.

IV.  Other Propaganda Efforts

A.  Print Media/Publications

1.  Appropriate use of popular media intended to discredit and attack 
opponents is a fundamental tool of countering The Disrupters Movement

2.  While control of the major media outlets is crucial to such 
efforts, it is through "fringe" media publications that the most 
damage can be done to The Disrupters Movement. Continued use of 
assets within the counter-media can be extremely beneficial.

B.  Electronic/Computer Systems: Electronic computer systems, 
bulletin boards, and information superhighway in general is an area 
of considerable importance to efforts to combat the activities of The 
Disrupters Movement.  The ability of opponents to utilize computer 
bulletin boards to pass information and educate people must be met 
with an active program of disinformation and attack.

1.  One means of countering the effectiveness of such opposition 
efforts is the simple expedient of overloading their bulletin 
boards.  A single operator with one computer can set a program in 
motion that will send out thousands of messages.  The sheer volume 
of such messages is more important than the content.  Most people 
will give up rather than read through hundreds and thousands of 
messages.

2.  A second means of countering the opposition's use of computer 
technology is through the careful placing of disinformation agents.  
Such agents can take two forms:

a.  Agents may be placed who will simply argue against the 
opposition, using delaying and confusing tactics such as constantly 
demanding references and "proof" of allegations, referring to obscure 
and difficult to find documents as evidence that the opposition is 
wrong, and generally forcing the opposition to waste tremendous 
amounts of time simply defending itself from spurious and irrelevant 
attacks.

b.  Other agents have been placed with a more subtle purpose in 
mind.  Such agents would take on the persona and attitude of members 
of The Disrupters Movement, but would present the opposition's case 
in ways that will ultimately discredit them.  The necessary effort to 
correct the messages posted by these agents, and the resulting 
appearance of disarray within the their camp should present 
considerable opportunities for further assaults on The Disrupters 
Movement.

3.  In cases of computer networks where it is highly imperative that 
the efforts of The Disrupters be neutralized, coordinated assaults 
can be arranged using aliases and multiple membership IDs to present 
a wide array of negative and meddlesome messages.

C.  Diversionary efforts

1.  Bread and Circuses a.  celebrities The use of celebrities is a 
proven means of diverting attention from serious political issues.  
Moreover, the use of selected celebrity figures as political 
spokesperson can be a very effective means of getting our message 
across.

b.  sports Sports are useful as a means of diverting attention from 
serious political issues and dulling the minds of the populace.  By 
focusing all their energies on sporting events, we can prevent people 
>from undertaking the intense and serious study necessary to take 
effective political action.

c.  Gambling The provision of numerous outlets for public gambling 
serves multiple purposes.  It serves to keep the popular attention 
engaged on sporting events, as well as what has become known 
as "lottery fever." Perhaps more important, widespread gambling not 
only keeps the general public poor, it provides needed income for our 
own uses---especially when allowed in the form of state lotteries 
which purport to provide money for education, senior citizens, or 
other popular purposes.  In fact, through the careful use of 
accounting manipulation, much of the funds raised are being diverted 
to support many of the other programs and efforts described in this 
memo.

d.  talk shows: Talk shows serve a dual purpose.

(1) by diverting attention from serious issues, such programs dull 
the public intellect and prevent people from focusing on real issues 
and problems.

(2) by constantly presenting groups such as homosexuals, feminists, 
etc., in a favorable light, and presenting real "white supremacists,"
"religious zealots," and other opponents unfavorably, these programs 
can serve to reaffirm in the public mind which people are "good" and 
which are "bad."

It is our belief that the above strategies.  if implemented 
effectively, can be effective in countering and ultimately rendering 
ineffective the efforts of The Disrupters Movement.

                     - TOP SECRET -

Also found here in original text:
http://www.darkconspiracy.com/conspiracies/nwo/agg.txt

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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"Jeff T"  wrote in message news:<0D6T9.43442$L47.6664678@read2.cgocable.net>...
> "EG Warman"  wrote in message
> news:2005a7f1.0301081551.59b06dd5@posting.google.com...
> > "Jeff T"  wrote in message
>  news:...
> > > Hahahahahahaha!
> > >
> > > Tell me this was for our entertainment purposes, 'cause if you actually
> > > believe this crook, I have a bridge for sale.
> >
> > You are obviously too stupid to know what a bridge looks like!
> >
> > Eldon Warman
> 
> Ahhh... missed the link... It is from a National Inquirer type rag... As a
> matter of fact, this is the rag that created Bat Boy... I love that kid.
> 
> Please continue posting these amusing articles... I'd love to hear how Elvis
> (and not fat Elvis either, he was obviously an imposter) is still alive and
> living on Mars.
> 
> Jeff T

What happened Jeff T, did you get your AIDS from your homo
activities, and cannot face facts?

Eldon Warman


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Ken McVay, Just in case you missed this on the other thread
of like title:

Quote:

"David"  wrote in message news:<3e1d26ba_2@news.newsgroups.com>...
> "Ken McVay"  wrote in message
> news:vb9T9.319$CL4.14873745@news.nnrp.ca...
> > In article ,
> > Quantrell  wrote:
> > >egwarman@outgun.com (EG Warman) wrote in message
> > >news:<2005a7f1.0301081546.374d3ce@posting.google.com>...
> > >> Ken McVay (AKA: Quantrell) wrote...
> 
> 
> 
> > 2. Are you asserting that I am a pedophile, Mr. Warman? If so, be
> >    advised that I take such defamatory remarks very seriously, and
> >    fully intend to require you to justify this assertion before a
> >    Canadian court.
> 
> Please note, Mr Warman, that in an interview with The Ethical Spectacle,
> 1(6) June 1995 (See http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html) Ken McVay
> inadvertently admitted to downloading photographs of naked children from 
> the Internet and expressed rather unconventional views about it:
> 
> 
> I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of proportion 
> (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have yet to come across
> anything I'd consider "child porn." I've seen photos of naked children, 
> but then I've got some of those in my family photo album, and fail to 
> see the harm, or any great moral danger to our society).
> 
> 
> In 1990 Ken McVay posted the following to the Usenet newsgroup alt.sex:
> 
> (Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID: <2686f4a0-2.6alt.sex-1@oneb>. 
> Date: 26 June 1990)
> 
> 
> From: kmcvay@oneb (Ken McVay)
> Newsgroups: alt.sex
> Subject: Erotic Lit. (was Re: sex ves. violence)
> Message-ID: <2686f4a0-2.6alt.sex-1@oneb>
> Date: 26 Jun 90 06:52:07 GMT
> References: <137507@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> <9655.26835370@amherst.bitnet>
> Lines: 8
> Posted: Tue Jun 26 07:52:07 1990
> 
> >> restrictions are generally in force anyway. Aside from pornography
> >> being deadly dull, it doesn't bother me.
> 
> I once enjoyed an exception to the 'deadly dull' rule - a delightful 
> movie entitled 'Alice in Wonderland' which bore an, er, superficial
> resemblance to another movie of the same name....I've been trying to 
> find a copy for years, or at least to rent one....last time I viewed 
> it was around 1983....
> 
> Bring on the Dancing Nurses! :-)
> 
> 
> This was posted before Nizkor appeared and before McVay had made any
> revisionist enemies, so it is certainly not a fake. It appears, from 
> online film reviews, that the uncut version of this Alice in Wonderland 
> film involves a 'youthful' adult actress depicting a child engaging in 
> certain indecent acts, including, inter alia, a '40-second BJ with the 
> mad hatter' [sic]. (Apparently a 'very fat, naked Humpty Dumpty' also 
> becomes involved in proceedings at some stage - we will leave our readers 
> to speculate for themselves how a man who would have been married with
> children at the time came to be watching this sort of thing in 1983.)
> 
> It should be noted that current Canadian legislation outlaws the viewing 
> of child pornography, which it (Section 163.1 of the Criminal Code of 
> Canada) defines 'child pornography' thus:
> 
> 
> 1.In this section, "child pornography" means
> a.a photographic, film, video or other visual representation, whether 
> or not it was made by electronic or mechanical means,
> i.that shows a person who is *or is depicted as* being under the age of
> eighteen years and is engaged in or is depicted as engaged in explicit
> sexual activity, or
> ii.the dominant characteristic of which is the depiction, for a sexual
> purpose, of a sexual organ or the anal region of a person under the age 
> of eighteen years; or 
> b.any written material or visual representation that advocates or 
> counsels sexual activity with a person under the age of eighteen years 
> that would be an offence under this Act.
> 
> 
> (my emphasis)
> 
> It should also be emphasized that we do not know whether the version 
> of the film viewed by Mr McVay in 1983 showed the scenes mentioned above 
> in their entirety, or whether they were cut in the version that he saw, 
> or whether Ken McVay viewed the film in its entirety, nor am I 
> sufficiently familiar with Canadian law to know what restrictions on 
> child pornography were in force in Canada in 1983. Certainly, McVay 
> appears to have been sailing rather close to the wind.
> 
> There's no evidence that he's a paedophile. There's strong evidence 
> that he's a pervert.
> 
> Come on, then, Ken. Where's your lawsuit?
> 
> 
> 
> > 4. Are you asserting that I am a pedophile, Mr. Warman? If so, be
> >    advised that I take such defamatory remarks very seriously, and
> >    fully intend to require you to justify this assertion before a
> >    Canadian court.
> 
> I'm asserting that you're a pervert, Ken. Do you take that seriously enough
> to require me to justify it before a Canadian court?
> 
> > 5. Are you asserting that I am involved in a tax "scam," Mr. Warman?
> >    If so, please prepare to prove your allegation in a court of law.
> >
> > Now, Mr. Warman, why don't you quit running away, and either back up
> > your big mouth with *facts*, or admit you're a mudslinging hatemonger
> > without a shred of evidence behind you?
> 
> Hey, Ken. I've got evidence that you lie about the organizational and
> financial affairs of Nizkor.
> 
> Do you want me to justify that before a Canadian court too?
> 
> Heck, do you want me to post it again right here?
> 
> David

Unquote

Seems that others question your morality, Ken.
I just question your morality as a traitorous damage control goon
for the Zionist agenda to enslave Canadians inyour Zionist NW Odor.

Eldon Warman


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From:  http://www.hushmoney.org/

"It's impossible to have religious freedom in any nation where 
churches are licensed to the government."
Congressman George Hansen, In Caesar's Grip, 

by: Peter Kershaw 

Rev. D. James Kennedy has stated: 

(Clip)

Quote:

First-century Christians knew there were significant legal 
and theological ramifications to taking licens from Caesar. 
This is why they never incorporated any church. The corporation 
originated in Roman Civil Law, 250 or more years prior to the 
birth of Christ. Corporations were the most ubiquitous legal 
entities in Roman society, used to maintain subservience and 
government conformance. 

The corporation is a "creature of the State," and "the State 
is the sovereign" of all corporations. For the early church 
to incorporate would have been a public declaration that 
Caesar was sovereign over Christ -- blasphemy! There is 
virtually no difference between modern corporations and 
those used by ancient Rome.

Unquote

The good reverend doesn't go quite far enough into the depths
of this Roman depravity. States are corporations under the City 
of London, which itself is under the Pope, who usurped the 
position of Caesar around 600 AD.

Posted by;

Eldon Warman
htp;//www.detaxcanada.org


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Ken McVay wrote...
> 
> >> Do you have evidence that I am a "queer," Mr. Warman?
> >> Are you asserting that I am a homosexual?
> >> 
> >Only if you wish to use that slang meaning for the word.
> 
> The slang meaning of the word is "homosexual," Mr. Warman, and if you
> are asserting that I am a homosexual, say so, and I will file suit
> without further delay. If that isn't what you're asserting, say so.
> 
There are other definitions for "queer" - such as: differing in some 
odd way from what is usual or normal; eccentric, unconventional; 
mildly insane, touched; absorbed or interested to an exterme or 
unreasonable degree; obsessed; sexual deviate; homosexual; worthless,
counterfeit (money); questionable, suspicious; not quite well.....

Choose one, or as many as may fit your situation.
>
> >> Are you asserting that I am a pedophile, Mr. Warman? If so, be advised
> >> that I take such defamatory remarks very seriously, and fully intend
> >> to require you to justify this assertion before a Canadian court.
> >> 
> >Only if the "shoe fits". It seems that many others on these NGs 
> >seem to think that you have that problem - I have no knowledge
> >of it, only your lack of refutation of such accusations by others.
> 
> Answer the question, Mr. Warman. Are you are are you not accusing me
> of being a pedophile? If you are, say so, as I assure you
> I will initiate legal action.
> 
Oh. I wouldn't accuse you of anything!! I have, however, noticed that 
others have accused you of that problem, and I notice that you have 
not explained why they would have come up with such queer ideas
about you.
>
> >> "Why is TRUTH heard as "babble" by you Queer Zionist Jews..."
> >> 
> >> Are you asserting that I am a homosexual, Mr. Warman, or that I
> >> am Jewish?
> >> 
> >I don't really think you know who or what you are. I am not "asserting
> >anything" - just recognizing a duck as being a duck.
> 
> You're a big-mouth and a coward, Mr. Warman, and you haven't the balls
> to come right out and answer these questions. That's probably because
> you know you'll end up explaining yourself in a court of law.
> 
Why should I, Ken? You don't seem to have that so-called honesty
that you demand of others?
 
By the way, what are you going to ask for in your suit? A week's
worth of picked bottles and cans? That's about all you might get 
>from me.

Eldon Warman


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THIRTY-NINE QUESTIONS ON THE HOLOCAUST 
(A German Point of View) 
(All comments are by the author of the webpage)

From: http://www.ummah.net/unity/holocaust/qustions.htm

1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR DELIBERATELY
KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS? 

None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of individual
"survivors", and no "survivor" claims actually to
have witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. 
No mounds of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of 
doing the job, no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, 
no records, no demographic statistics. 

On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a forensic, 
demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and comparative 
nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a figure as 
six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.

2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN 
RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS 
DURING WORLD WAR TWO? 

Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans 
interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German 
war effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of 
their race or national origin alone.

3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE 
CONCENTRATION CAMPS? 

Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to their 
national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out. 
Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist 
subversion during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews 
were highly overrepresented in government, commercial, and media 
positions. However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, 
were in danger of internment once the war broke out. 

On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on Germany 
and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply because 
the German government had removed Jews from influential positions 
and transferred power back to the German people. The boycott order 
and the Jewish war against Germany were reported in the world print 
and broadcast media of the time. False stories of German "death 
camps" were in fact circulated even before the outbreak of World 
War Two. Therefore the German view of the Jewish people as enemy 
aliens would seem to have been fully justified.

4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY 
DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL? 

Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the 
gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.

5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS 
IT WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS 
SAY IT WAS? 

Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally murdered 
dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs were 
led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas chambers. 
This story was later quietly expunged from official Holocaust lore 
because it became too difficult to maintain in the face of known 
fact and because Dachau was in the Allied occupation zone where 
access to the camp was too easy and unrestricted. 

En passant, the brief lifespan of the "Dachau death camp" version 
gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning of the 
Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who noticed
discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in official
accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early Holocaust
Revisionism gained momentum.

6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT 
GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED AT AUSCHWITZ? 

No. The "gas chamber" exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz could not 
possibly have been used to carry out executions; it is far too small 
and it is not even airtight. In the 1980s, American expert Fred 
Leuchter, who builds gas chambers for American penal systems, 
took scrapings from the walls of the Auschwitz "gas chamber" for 
chemical analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz 
exhibit is a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.

7. IF AUSCHWITZ WASN'T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE PURPOSE? 
It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber (Buna) 
was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in the 
same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in 
correctional systems throughout the United States today.

8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS? 
Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of hydrocyanic 
gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, including the 
fumigation of lice-infested clothing, the purpose for which it 
was applied at Auschwitz. Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide 
and is commonly used and available today.

9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER 
COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS? 

Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and 
brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for 
the figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he 
could not read. Some pages of the original document are literally 
stained with Hoess' blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed 
so he could not be cross examined.

10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA FUMIGATED 
WITH ZYKLON-B? 

About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved and 
technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians 
only are employed.

11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD ENTER 
THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE THE 
BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS? 

It can't be explained, because it could not have happened like that. 
Had the Germans done this they would have suffered the same fate as 
the allegedly exterminated Jews.

12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE CIGARETTES 
AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES BEFORE 
HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN'T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE? 

Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the six 
million figure as well.

13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET FROM 
JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE POPE, THE 
VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND ALLIED MILITARY 
INTELLIGENCE NOT KNOW? 

Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS, British 
MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have been kept
secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who were 
fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a potentially 
powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any contemporary evidence 
at all during the war that such an event was occurring.

14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DURING 
THE WAR? 

About 300,000.

15. HOW DID THEY DIE? 

Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn Europe 
during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably appears 
whenever people are jammed together for long periods without bathing. 
It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. Ironically, 
if the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant purposes, 
more Jews might have survived the concentration camps. Jewish 
prisoners (as well as many others) also died from starvation and 
lack of medical attention towards the end of the war when virtually 
all rail and road transport had come to a standstill due to the 
intense Allied bombing campaign.

16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 300,000 DIED? 

5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a deliberate, 
systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to exterminate the 
Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there was not, and 
the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the identity, the 
activities, and the financial and political motivations of those who 
have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years the grotesque,
slanderous, and evil lie that there was a "Holocaust".

17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE "DEATH CAMPS" SAY THEY SAW BODIES 
BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD HAVE BEEN 
USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT? 

A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have afforded to 
waste during the Second World War, that's for sure.

18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS? 

No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by 
flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated in open 
pits. [Note From Harold Covington: I can personally confirm from 
my own observations of both Communist and American atrocities in 
both the American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible 
completely to destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, 
napalm, or in any other way in open pits. The Holocaust "experts" 
who claim otherwise are either parroting what they have been told 
without bothering to check their facts, or else they are lying.]

19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE BODIES 
IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A BODY 
ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS? 

About two hours.

20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS? 

To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead from 
typhus and other diseases.

21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN ALL THE 
CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF 
CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO INCINERATE DURING THE 
ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE? 

About 430,600.

22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME? 

No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours per day. 
Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly when in 
heavy operation.

23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED CORPSE? 

After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate time-consuming 
process in itself, about a shoe box full.

24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT 
HAPPENED TO THE ASHES? 

That remains to be "explained". Six million bodies would produce 
literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have been no 
discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz area or 
anywhere else in Europe.

25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE AIR, SHOW 
ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION? 

No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the immense amount
of smoke which must have hung constantly over the camp, nor do they 
show any evidence of the alleged open pits where the bodies were 
burned.

26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE WHOLE
"HOLOCAUST" ISSUE?

A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in September 
of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive packages 
and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The full 
official report of the International Red Cross on the Second World 
War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or any of 
the wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust. 

Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war's end, the liberal 
media in America and Europe began running a series of articles 
claiming that the Red Cross was "full of Nazi sympathizers". This 
charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated Jewish 
attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles steadily 
in the light of factual examination and critical analysis.

27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE? 

Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb Felderer of 
Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves conclusively that 
the published version of the famous diary is a literary hoax. There 
was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the diary appear to be 
genuine, including several wherein she describes adolescent lesbian 
sexual experiences which were later excised from the published text. 

In 1950 Anne Frank's father sued author Meyer Levin, the actual writer
of the diary, over royalties from the book. A Jewish judge in New York
ordered the records of the court case sealed for 100 years. When the 
original diary was put on display a few years later, it was noticed 
that the most poignant sections of the book were interpolations 
written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, a writing
instrument
which was not invented until 1950. The original diary was swiftly 
removed from exhibit and whisked away into a safety deposit box in 
Israel. It has never been produced for examination since then despite 
repeated attempts by scholars to view it.

28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE ALLEGEDLY
TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED CORPSES AND 
PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED? 

Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning. Corpses of 
German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead Jews. One 
famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a "Nazi SS man" about 
to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination of the 
blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military 
historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period 
that the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made 
carbine. 

(The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for atrocities 
actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin remains common, 
even though some of the more notorious examples like the Katyn Forest 
massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly laid at the door 
of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to be perpetrated 
by Holocaust "experts" is not surprising in view of the fact that 
almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme left-wing views and 
are as quick to apologize for and explain away Stalin's butcheries 
as they are to invent fraudulent crimes attributed to Adolf Hitler. 

The almost universally leftist political and social orientation of 
Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind 
when examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost 
as important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler
and the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader 
Ken McVay's refusal to accept any more N.S.W.P.P. e-mail after 
General Secretary Covington asked him why he did not condemn the 
mass murders of Stalin.)

29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH 
SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED? 

Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a 
predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would 
certainly have been in a position to learn about it. Since no 
such plan existed, the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.

30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE 
EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS? 

None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a deliberate 
extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come to light. 
No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich Himmler, 
or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering the 
extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis were 
meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were 
seized by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied 
archivists and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them all.
Nothing. Zip. Nada.

31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND DURING 
THE WAR? 

Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews from 
Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and they 
maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German official 
in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then British-occupied 
Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister Menachem Begin) 
was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust industry considered 
this secret so volatile and dangerous that Eichmann was abducted by 
the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered in order to silence him.

32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED BY 
THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR? 

Slightly less than four million.

33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE THE 
NAZIS? 

Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to kill 
them.

34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN'T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT 
HAPPENED TO THEM? 

After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United States, 
Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 300,000, 
they are all accounted for.

35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE TODAY? 

It shields them from any criticism over their political, economic, 
and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense sums of 
"guilt money", especially from the German government. It justifies 
aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion dollars per 
year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70 billion 
dollars in assorted "Holocaust reparations" and the ante is growing 
every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the Jewish 
people to keep the scam going.

36. ARE FILMS LIKE "HOLOCAUST", "SCHINDLER'S LIST", AND "THE WINDS 
OF WAR" DOCUMENTARIES? 

Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be. They are
fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, not real
people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals of events 
that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a screenplay 
written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where Jews are very 
highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and the creative 
and financial sectors of film making. 

Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history that in 
recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have begun 
to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, the 
character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in 
Spielberg's production of "Schindler's List" was sanitized to 
the point of being unrecognizable. 

Schindler was portrayed as almost saintly, and yet none of those 
still living who remember the man have a single good word to say 
about him. The real Schindler was a confidence artist, a thief, 
a libertine and degenerate gambler who indulged freely in forced 
sexual relations with young female camp inmates, who later 
abandoned his wife and fled with his mistress to Brazil after 
embezzling a large sum of money. 

Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire 
because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and 
events like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with 
the most bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.

37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE SOME 
ASPECT OF THE STANDARD JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST? 

Over 100, with more in the works.

38. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL 
VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST? 

A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have always 
refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with 
Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose 
called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages 
in hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who 
dares to express any dissent or doubt in the Holocaust orthodoxy. 
It is clear from many of the postings to Nizkor's Internet 
playgroups that they have attracted a number of people, mostly 
Jews but some left-liberal Gentiles as well, who are motivated 
by intense racial bigotry and ideological hatred of anyone who 
disagrees with them, and who in some cases appear to be severely 
mentally and emotionally disturbed. 

The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with hatred, 
violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest giveaway 
that they have something to hide. In many countries thiolence, and 
persecution, which in itself is the surest giveaway that they have 
something to hide. In many countries those who ask politically 
incorrect or searching questions about the Holocaust are arrested, 
tortured, and imprisoned. 

Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat him so 
badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major Revisionist
bookseller's offices were burned, and in Toronto Revisionist author
Ernst Zundel's home was almost destroyed in an arson attack. Zundel 
was subjected to a bizarre series of show trials lasting over ten 
years, and after being finally acquitted he has been denied Canadian 
citizenship and is still battling attempts to deport him to prison 
and torture in Germany. 

An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was kidnapped
by the German government and at this writing is serving a lengthy 
prison sentence in Germany for the "crime" of writing pro-National 
Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is legal. Another 
American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also abducted, held in 
prison in Germany for almost a year, and released only after an 
international outcry. Schmidt's "crime" was writing a pro-Revisionist 
article, in English, in a newsletter published and distributed in the 
United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder has been imprisoned 
so many times he's lost count. Revisionists have been stripped of 
jobs and academic posts, denied tenure in universities, victimized 
by harassing lawsuits, received bombs in the mail, and subjected to 
constant death threats from Jews and Marxists. 

THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent people who 
are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by trying to kill, 
imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. More than anything else,
the behavior of the Jews and the governments they influence so 
strongly proves that the Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was 
true, neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use 
force to silence criticism, any more than force need be used against 
people who believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, 
assaults and torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession 
on the part of the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars 
who have imposed the most massive and vicious hoax in history on 
all of humanity, and have used that hoax as an excuse to rob us 
blind, steal another people's country, and then to slaughter that 
country's original inhabitants at will, as according to National 
Public Radio they are doing even now as I type this, in the town 
of Ramallah.

39. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING REVISIONISTS? 

No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than ever to 
ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the earth 
understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded them, 
and robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust lie. 
There can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the 
Holocaust will be accepted by mainstream historians and the public 
at large for what it is: a politically inspired hoax.  Unquote
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Ken, how do you explain the internet article by Torh Jews
who say that the Jews were suicided? Haven't read it?

Well, here it is: http://www.rense.com/general32/next.htm
(All comments are by the author of the webpage)

Zionism: Compulsory Suicide
For Jews - Are Americans Next?
12-10-2

On Nov. 25, 1940, a boat carrying Jewish refugees from Nazi Europe,
the "Patria," exploded and sank off the coast of Palestine killing
252 people. 
  
The Zionist "Haganah" claimed the passengers committed suicide to 
protest British refusal to let them land. Years later, it admitted 
that rather than let the passengers go to Mauritius it blew up the 
vessel.  
  
"Sometimes it is necessary to sacrifice the few in order to save 
the many," Moshe Sharett, a former Israeli Prime Minister said at 
a memorial service in 1958. 
  
In fact, during the Holocaust, Zionist policy was that Jewish life 
had no value unless it promoted the cause of the creation of Israel. 
"One goat in Israel is worth more than the whole Diaspora," Yitzhak 
Greenbaum, head of the Jewish Agency's "Rescue Committee" said. 
  
Rabbi Moshe Shonfeld accuses the Zionists of collaborating in the 
Nazi slaughter of European Jewry directly and indirectly. 
  
The charges are contained in his book, "Holocaust Victims Accuse" 
(1977) which is readable on line. 
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/books.htm (Download it by right-
clicking on the red Acrobat PDF link. Then left-click "Save Target.") 
  
Rabbi Shonfeld calls the Zionists "war criminals," who usurped the 
leadership of the Jewish people, betrayed their trust, and, after 
their annihilation, reaped the moral capital. 
  
Shonfeld states: "The Zionist approach that Jewish blood is the 
anointing oil needed for the wheels of the Jewish state is not a 
thing of the past. It remains operable to this very day." 
  
Other books on this theme by Jews include: Edwin Black, "The Transfer
Agreement"; Ben Hecht, "Perfidy," M.J. Nurenberger "The Scared and
the Damned"; Joel Brand, "Satan and the Soul"; Chaim Lazar, 
"Destruction and Rebellion"; and Rabbi Michael Dov Ber Weismandel 
"From the Depth." 
  
The implication, which I will explore later, is that Zionism, at the 
top, is not a Jewish movement. In the words of veteran Israeli 
politician Eliezar Livneh, "The Zionist heritage had in it something 
flawed to begin with."  
  
SHOCKING ''HIGHLIGHTS'' OF RABBI SHONFELD'S BOOK: 
  
+ While European Jews were in mortal danger, Zionist leaders in 
America deliberately provoked and enraged Hitler. They began in 
1933 by initiating a worldwide boycott of Nazi goods. Dieter von 
Wissliczeny, Adolph Eichmann's lieutenant, told Rabbi Weissmandl 
that in 1941 Hitler flew into a rage when Rabbi Stephen Wise, in 
the name of the entire Jewish people, "declared war on Germany". 
Hitler fell on the floor, bit the carpet and vowed: "Now I'll destroy 
them. Now I'll destroy them." In Jan. 1942, he convened the "Wannsee
Conference" where the "final solution" took shape.
  
+ Rabbi Shonfeld says the Nazis chose Zionist activists to run the 
"Judenrats" and to be Jewish police or "Kapos." "The Nazis found in
these 'elders' what they hoped for, loyal and obedient servants who
because of their lust for money and power, led the masses to their
destruction." The Zionists were often intellectuals who were often
"more cruel than the Nazis" and kept secret the trains' final 
destination. In contrast to secular Zionists, Shonfeld says Orthodox 
Jewish rabbis refused to collaborate and tended their beleaguered 
flocks to the end. 
  
+ Rabbi Shonfeld cites numerous instances where Zionists sabotaged 
attempts to organize resistance, ransom and relief. They undermined 
an effort by Vladimir Jabotinsky to arm Jews before the war. They 
stopped a program by American Orthodox Jews to send food parcels to 
the ghettos (where child mortality was 60%) saying it violated the 
boycott. They thwarted a British parliamentary initiative to send 
refugees to Mauritius, demanding they go to Palestine instead. 
They blocked a similar initiative in the US Congress. At the same 
time, they rescued young Zionists. Chaim Weizmann, the Zionist Chief 
and later first President of Israel said: "Every nation has its dead 
in its fight for its homeland. The suffering under Hitler are our 
dead." He said they "were moral and economic dust in a cruel world." 
  
+ Rabbi Weismandel, who was in Slovakia, provided maps of Auschwitz 
and begged Jewish leaders to pressure the Allies to bomb the tracks 
and crematoriums. The leaders didn't press the Allies because the 
secret policy was to annihilate non-Zionist Jews. The Nazis came to 
understand that death trains and camps would be safe from attack and 
actually concentrated industry there. (See also, William Perl, "The 
Holocaust Conspiracy.') 
  
None of the above is intended to absolve the Nazis of responsibility. 
However, the holocaust could have been prevented or at least
alleviated
had the Zionist leadership behaved honorably. 
  
WHAT IS ''ZIONISM''? 
  
Lord Acton said, ìThe truth will come out when powerful people no 
longer wish to suppress it.î Since Sept. 11, more and more people are 
turning to the "conspiratorial" or "suppressed" view of history for
explanations.

In 1891, Cecil Rhodes started a secret society called the "Round
Table" dedicated to world hegemony for the shareholders of Bank of
England
and their allies. These priggish aristocrats, including the
Rothschilds, realized they must control the world to safeguard their
monopoly on
money creation) as well as global resources. The same folks control 
the U.S. Federal Reserve and other major central banks.
http://www.savethemales.ca/260602.html
  
They were united also by a commitment to freemasonry, which at the 
top, is dedicated to the destruction of Christianity, the worship of 
Lucifer, and the building of a pagan temple in Jerusalem. They see 
most of humanity as "useless eaters" and they pioneered eugenics to 
decrease population and weed out inferior specimens. The eventual 
annihilation of non-Zionist Jews was rooted in this English movement. 
  
In 1897, the first Zionist Congress took place in Basle. In 1904, 
the founder of Zionism Theodore Herzl died at age 44 under suspicious
circumstances. The movement was taken over by the Round Table.
The purpose was to use it and Communism to advance their plan for 
world hegemony. During the same week in November 1917, the Bolshevik 
Revolution took place and the Balfour Declaration promised Palestine 
to the Jews. 
  
The Round Table group planned three world wars to degrade, demoralize 
and destroy mankind, rendering it defenceless. The Third World War, 
now beginning, pits the Zionists against the Muslims.
http://www.savethemales.ca/071002.html
  
The purpose of Zionism is to help colonize the Middle East, subvert 
Islam, and control the oilfields. For this reason Israel continues 
to receive blank checks. (One analyst estimates the US taxpayer has 
spent $1.7 trillion on Israel.) This is why the founding of Israel 
took precedence over the welfare of the Jewish people. 
  
Israel has little to do with the Jewish people. Zionism, Communism, 
Feminism, Nazism, are creations of the same satanic cabal. These 
'isms are means to the final goal, a neo feudal global dictatorship. 
FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover referred to this when he said: "The 
individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy 
so monstrous he cannot believe it exists". 
  
As unwitting overseers, Israelis will continue as victims of 
"compulsory suicide." Americans too are being fitted for this role. 
Sept. 11 was an example. 
  
Arab terrorism is also backed by this cabal.
(http://www.savethemales.ca/251102.html)

Osama Bin Laden made more than 260 phone calls to England between 
1996-1998. (http://www.afgha.com/viewtopic.php?topic=748&forum=7) 
The aim is to contrive a "war of civilizations" as an excuse to grind 
down both Muslim states and the West to create a global police state. 
  
What I have been calling "compulsory suicide" is satanic "culling." 
The constant reference by Zionist and other leaders to "blood 
sacrifice" refers to the practice of human sacrifice. Apparently 
energy is released when people are slaughtered. Recently U.S. Deputy 
Secretary of State Richard Armitage said the Hezbollah owes the 
U.S. a "blood debt.") (http://www.yellowtimes.org/article.php?sid=673)
  
Our rulers design wars as offerings to Lucifer. They find slaughter 
and mayhem exhilarating, as long as it is someone else who is 
sacrificed. 
  
WHERE DOES THIS LEAVE THE JEWS? 
  
For millennia, Jews owed their survival to their devotion to "Torah." 
In the last century they have forsaken this portable spiritual home, 
and placed their faith in a tangible one, Israel. 
  
Unfortunately, they have been duped. 
  
Israelis are becoming unwitting overseers in the global plantation. 
American Jews, prominent in media, education, government and finance, 
are also unwitting instruments. They will end up taking the blame for 
the real culprits, the shareholders of the world's major central
banks.
  
Mankind has been betrayed by its leadership. Of Jewish leadership, 
Israeli journalist Barry Chamish writes: "The richest appoint 
themselves to the highest posts. Thus the greediest and most 
unscrupulous run the show. [They] ... will sell their souls and 
those of their people for power and acclaim." See Barry Chamish 
"Just as Scared, Just as Doomed."http://www.redmoonrising.com/bc15.htm
  
There are a few hundred thousand orthodox Jews like Rabbi Shonfeld 
who have always understood Zionism. They have always rejected the 
state of Israel and remained faithful to the Torah. They could form 
a core for a genuine Jewish revival. Their websites are
www.jewsagainstzionism.com , http://www.jewsnotzionists.org. and
www.netureikarta.org.
  
In conclusion, a satanic cult governs the world. These people hate 
God and hate mankind. They want to destroy it. They believe the end 
justifies the means and are ruthless. They use the Jews, and everyone 
else, as cannon fodder. We are "children of the matrix," duped, 
distracted, stunted and sacrificed. Without the vision provided by 
God, we are lambs being led to slaughter. 
  
Henry Makow, Ph. D. is the inventor of the board game Scruples and 
the author of "A Long Way to go for a Date." His articles on feminism 
and the new world order are archived at his web site 
http://www.savethemales.ca He welcomes your comments at 
henrym@mts.net. Dr. Makow is Jewish.      end quote
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Dr. Makow poses a lot of tough questions to you "anti-revisionist" 
types, does he not?

And, Ken, you avoided my questions about who the "priests" were
who performed the "burnt offering" to some god or other in the 
early 1940's in Germany? Isn't that what the term "holocaust" means?

And, aren't "holocausts" performed by priests?

What is the significance of 6 million in Zionist/Masonic
mysticism/cabbalism? Is it a number ordained by Lucifer?

Since you are the "super-hero" of anti-revisionists and 
protector of Zionist Jews, how about some real and honest 
answers - rather than your usual silly avoidance shit.

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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"Jeff T"  wrote in message news:...
> "EG Warman"  wrote in message
> news:2005a7f1.0301091142.5d11d8ae@posting.google.com...
> > "Jeff T"  wrote in message
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> > > > "Jeff T"  wrote in message
>  news:...
> > > > > Hahahahahahaha!
> > > > >
> > > > > Tell me this was for our entertainment purposes, 'cause if you
>  actually
> > > > > believe this crook, I have a bridge for sale.
> > > >
> > > > You are obviously too stupid to know what a bridge looks like!
> > > >
> > > > Eldon Warman
> > >
> > > Ahhh... missed the link... It is from a National Inquirer type rag... As
>  a
> > > matter of fact, this is the rag that created Bat Boy... I love that kid.
> > >
> > > Please continue posting these amusing articles... I'd love to hear how
>  Elvis
> > > (and not fat Elvis either, he was obviously an imposter) is still alive
>  and
> > > living on Mars.
> > >
> > > Jeff T
> >
> > What happened Jeff T, did you get your AIDS from your homo
> > activities, and cannot face facts?
> >
> > Eldon Warman
> 
> Wow... You really are an idiot... I gave you an out to prove your just
> having fun, and instead you prove once and for all, that like evolution some
> things were meant to be.
> 
> Look at your source for this peice of trash you posted here... You stand by
> this? The same people that brought us Bat Boy, and UFO's are among us, tells
> the tale of how the US created AIDS... You bought it hook line and sinker.
> 
> Tell us, when you introduce your girlfriend, do you introduce her as you
> sister as well?
> 
> For the record, I'm straight, and your mom says hi.
> 
> Jeff T

Well then, Jeff T, upon what basis do you refute the information
which I posted on this thread? Do you have any proof that there is
wrong information here? What agenda do you have in just poo-pooing
the information? Do you think that a country which can murder 
hundreds of its own citizens so as to stir up the remainder of the 
People into a war frienzy (and, this done several times) is incapable 
of doing such a thing as starting the AIDS epidemic?

If you are interested in learning something about planned 
the "de-population of the World", check here:

http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/creator/global2000.htm

It is in three parts.

Eldon Wa


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Police State In Progress 
But We Will Get Used to It It, Right?
By: Dorothy Anne Seese

What happened to the James Smoak family of North Carolina, as 
they were driving home from a vacation in Tennessee, is only 
one of many horror stories of encounters by American citizens 
with police. Our police and highway patrol officers now act as 
if they had been trained at the School of the Americas or by 
a leftover unit of Gestapo officers.

Although no crime had been committed, the Smoak family has 
returned home traumatized, one of their pet dogs was shot dead 
by a Tennessee Highway Patrolman, and the Smoaks have now been 
introduced to the new America, where "nothing has changed" except 
increased security against terrorists. And police terrorism 
against American citizens.

Mary Jo Denton, a staff writer for the Cookeville, Tennessee 
Herald-Citizen, reported the details of the police stop and 
ensuing episodes, including the shooting of the dog in front 
of the Smoaks and their two sons. It also included the hand
-cuffing of James Smoak at gunpoint, the horror of being 
stopped unexpectedly by three Tennessee Highway Patrol cars, 
removed from the car at gunpoint, and handcuffed. This included 
James Smoak, his wife Pamela, and their 17-year old son, Brandon.

The Smoaks were released in due time. However, the entire affair 
apparently started when Mr. Smoak's wallet, inadvertently left on 
the hood of the car at a gas stop, flew off the hood and onto the 
highway. Some passerby reported the incident, which hardly 
constituted grounds for suspected terrorism or even a "normal" 
robbery. However, the Tennessee Highway Patrol apparently didn't 
even check the Smoaks' North Carolina license plates to determine 
the owner of the vehicle or any records pertaining to the vehicle 
or its owners. Guns drawn, the Smoaks were ordered to their knees, 
face down, and handcuffed.

Whether they were read their Miranda rights is not reported, it 
probably isn't known at this point. Or maybe there just aren't any 
more Miranda rights. Or any other civil rights. Or any Bill of 
Rights.

The problem with American citizens is, they think they still live 
in a country where they are innocent until proven guilty, or that 
they have rights as citizens to be approached by the law officers 
and asked for their driver's license or other form of identification 
prior to being arrested, handcuffed and shoved into a patrol car 
- all without a crime having been committed.

We used to read about things like this happening in Nazi Germany, 
and in Soviet Russia, in Communist China, or some banana republics.

We hear this is how Saddam Hussein treats his Iraqi subjects. And 
we're about to go to war to depose this "evil dictator" because 
our leaders want his land to be as free as America. Apparently, 
it already is.

If this sounds bitter, it's because I remember a very different 
America, I've been stopped twice in my lifetime by the police for 
minor traffic infractions, and not once have I encountered anything 
like this. However, I will do my best never to again do something 
to warrant a police stop.

Come to think of it, James Smoak didn't DO anything to warrant a 
police stop. In my America, the police would have stopped him and 
returned his wallet, identification and all, wished him a good day 
and drive carefully.

That was when this nation was a free country.

When are Americans going to wake up to the fact that all this 
so-called airport security is a sham, that they have traded their 
freedom for the illusion of security, and police are now a growing 
group of "jack boots" who make a terrorist case out of a lost 
wallet? What else will attract attention? Well, don't leave your 
children for one minute in the car (regardless of the cause or the 
weather) or they might wind up in the hands of the state. Don't 
argue too loudly, family fights like we had in the days of a free 
country now attract the police and everyone could wind up in jail 
for calling someone else a dotcom.it no good rotten swineface.

You must argue quietly, never strike your children or discipline 
them in public for any reason, speak only that which is politically 
correct or wind up charged with a hate crime, and defend every 
administration and authority or be deemed an enemy of the state.

If your religion is Christianity, be forewarned that it is more and 
more politically incorrect, while speaking of Allah is very 
politically correct. It is even taught in schools where Bibles are 
not allowed, cigarettes are banned, condoms are handed out freely 
and homosexual practices are taught to children too young to even 
think about sex.

As many readers know, I live in the Phoenix, Arizona megaplex, a 
complex of about twenty cities and towns around the state's capital 
city. A couple of months ago, a woman was shot to death in her car 
at a drive-through Walgreen's pharmacy for trying to get Soma by 
a forged prescription. The officer who shot the woman - who had a 
14-month old baby with her in the car - claimed self-defense because 
the woman was trying to run over him. However, the medical examiner 
found she had been shot from an angle to the left and rear of her 
position in the driver's seat. Self defense? The officer is under 
investigation for second-degree murder and has been fired from the 
Chandler police department. However, a child is motherless, a man 
has been deprived of his wife and companion, the mother of his child, 
because his wife tried to get a drug with a phony prescription. 
Florida Governor Jeb Bush's daughter did the same thing and got a 
slap on the wrist.

It seems the law now considers everyone guilty until proven innocent, 
with people in high places excepted.

The number of horror stories increases daily in Amerika.

You don't have to do anything except lose your wallet or look like 
a suspect, as long as you are not the proper hyphenation. It seems 
our nation goes out of the way to intimidate citizens of European 
descent, and cater to those of Middle Eastern or Hispanic descent.

And we thought we were all equal.
Think again. Just not out loud.

-------
Dorothy Anne Seese is a freelance political writer for Patch Work 
papers and a regular columnist for Ether Zone. We invite you to visit 
her website at http://www.tech.com.au/flagship/
Dorothy Anne Seese can be reached at carrot710@yahoo.com 
Published in the January 7, 2003 issue of  Ether Zone. 
http://www.etherzone.com 
Copyright © 1997 - 2003 Ether Zone. 

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"Jeff T" wrote...
> 
> I have visited your site... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Hang on to your tin foil hats
> gents.
> 
> Based on that site, I would have to say, you're just stirring the pot
> here... No one could possibly be stupid enough to fall for that load of
> crap. So now I get it... You are just here to entertain the masses, and I
> bought into it, hook line and sinker (tell me this is the case), well, if
> you can't laugh at yourself, you shouldn't laugh at anyone-else...
> 
> Jeff T

Well, Jeffy, or is it Austin Rayder with a different hat?

Whatever you are, you are obviously inder this NSA directive:

*************************************************************
http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/417.html

NOFORNDIS March 26, 1993
TOP SECRET - CODEWORD: CABLESPLICE

- TOP SECRET - - TOP SECRET -

SUBJECT: An Aggressive Program to Counter The Disrupters Movement

SUMMARY:

Recent efforts by The Disrupters Movement to gain political influence 
are beginning to seriously and adversely affect public perceptions 
and understanding of ongoing programs aimed at smoothing the transfer 
of sovereignty and power from national governments to super-national 
statist organizations.  Unless such efforts are countered and 
discredited, the task of creating a unified global government under 
UN control will be far more difficult.  The most dangerous element of 
The Disrupters Movement are those that are part of the Christian 
Fundamentalist majority.  The following memorandum offers a set of 
policy prescriptions designed to counter-act their efforts.

ANALYSIS OF PROBLEM

Although there has always been opposition from groups and individuals 
with a conservative, isolationist attitude, the recent growth of such 
opposition, and the ability and organizational success of these 
groups has raised serious concern in recent years.  Unless steps are 
taken to meet the challenge posed by The Disrupters Movement, it is 
possible that these groups could make serious inroads into the public 
complacence which has been so carefully nurtured over the past fifty 
years.

The threat is two-fold.  First, there is the traditional conservative 
political threat, one which can be traced back to pre-WWII 
isolationism and political conservatism.  These groups are not of 
particular concern as their organizing ability and numbers do not 
suggest the capability for amassing significant political power.

It is the second category, the "Christian fundamentalists," that pose 
the greatest threat.  These people are representative of a massive 
population of Americans and if allowed to propagandize and organize 
that base could present serious obstacles to further progress.

I.  Overt Programs: Overt programs to counter growing influence of 
Christian and other groups should take various forms:

A.  An active effort aimed at promoting the benefits of global 
organizations and institutions.  Media stories, books, conferences, 
and other means should be utilized to get the story out in 
appropriate fashion.

Appearances

B.  Appearances by political figures, well-known celebrities and 
other influential figures at events connected to international and 
super-national organizations and institutions.  Of particular use are 
events which involve "feel-good" operations such as UNICEF, Feed the 
Children, Americares, etc.

C.  Promotion of peaceful uses of atomic energy, disarmament as a 
necessary condition to peace and security, and tolerance and 
acceptance of non-Christian faiths should be promoted consistently 
but with enough subtlety so as not to turn off the targeted 
populations.

   1.Under no circumstances, however, should such efforts be allowed 
to raise fears regarding these goals, nor should they provide 
substantive evidence of the true objectives of USG policy.

   2.An important means of developing support for disarmament and the 
reliance on the United Nations to impose global order is through 
raising fears of nuclear weapons.  By playing up the danger of 
nuclear war, it should be possible to generate considerable public 
support for further movement toward the disarmament of national 
states.  This diverts attention from the real nature of the 
disarmament effort by portraying it as necessary to world peace, 
rather than as a step on the road to world government.

D.  A massive attack on The Disrupters Movement, and especially 
Christian religious groups.  This assault would challenge them as 
intolerant, hateful, exclusionist, and potentially dangerous.
Such a program would include the following:

  1.Efforts should be made to falsely portray their objectives as the 
creation of a religious theocracy and the imposition of strict 
religious interpretation of the Bible as the basis for political 
participation in "the New Christian America." This can best be 
accomplished by focusing on the most outrageous and extremist 
statements and members, while downplaying the more moderate 
membership.

  2."Christian" groups should whenever possible be portrayed as 
fringe elements of the country's religious population, not especially 
numerous and certainly not representative of "most" Christians.

  3.At every opportunity these "Christian" groups should be presented 
as vicious, intolerant, and especially as anti-
semitic.  The selective use of quotes, and if necessary, the use of 
invented statements, can be a most effective means of accomplishing 
this task.

  4.Arrest either on criminal charges or on mental inquest warrants 
certain members of The Disrupters Movement who by their fanatical 
religious life-styles and/or their EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS would be 
psychologically and physically prepared to survive outside of 
government control.

5.Harassment on criminal charges or mental inquest warrants of those 
who listen to and/or sympathize with The Disrupters Movement.

II.  Covert Programs: Covert programs may be equally as important, 
if not more so, to countering the increasing effectiveness of The 
Disrupters Movement.

A.  Infiltration of The Disrupters Movement by sympathetic agents 
is an extremely useful tool in combatting their efforts.

1.  By carrying out extreme acts, and especially acts of violence, 
such individuals can bring discredit and public condemnation against 
The Disrupters Movement.

2.  By raising confusion, and carefully encouraging splits and 
controversy within The Disrupters Movement, such agents will be able 
to reduce the effectiveness and coherency of those groups.

B.  Individuals who have been groomed to operate outside the usual 
channels of political activity should be activated and placed in 
positions in which they appear to be in opposition to USG policy.

1.  These persons would speak out publically in opposition to our 
policies, but would in fact be sympathetic to our long-
term objectives.  By carefully and selectively providing false or 
misleading information, and information of a seemingly scandalous or 
dramatic nature, they would seem to be supporting the agenda of The 
Disrupters Movement.  But when the information they promulgated was 
shown to be patently false, it would further damage the credibility 
of the opposition.

2.  The use of certain talk radio personalities along the lines 
suggested in paragraph 1 has already proven quite effective and 
further ventures along these lines could be beneficial.

3.  In extreme situations, it may become useful or even necessary for 
these undercover assets to carry out certain operations against 
members of The Disrupters Movement who are interfering with 
CABLESPLICE.  In some cases, terminations with extreme prejudice may 
be called for.

C.  Subversion and Elimination of the Second Amendment 1.  One of the 
most critical efforts must be the removal of firearms from individual 
control.  The on-going long-term program to accomplish this is 
beginning to bear fruit and further efforts along current lines are 
advised.

a.  The use of "agent provocateurs," individuals who are seemingly 
insane (but who are never taken alive) who create highly publicized 
mass killings with automatic weapons has been particularly useful in 
molding public opinion.  Similarly, the regular use of random 
killings in large urban areas as a way of creating a climate of fear 
and violence has resulted in significant gains for the gun-control 
point of view. Such programs are extremely useful and shold be 
continued and possibly expanded.

b.  On-going efforts to gain small footholds in gun-control are 
worthwhile as they open the door to further controls later on.  
The importance of eliminating the Second Amendment right to bear 
firearms cannot be stressed too much.

III.  Disinformation Programs: These programs should be designed to 
carefully seed the media with false and misleading information about 
long-term goals and plans, as well as forged and deceptive details 
about The Disrupters Movement.

A.  Careful and selective placement of spurious and potentially 
damaging news stories in the popular media is an excellent means of 
raising doubts and fears in the minds of the population.  Our 
opponents have made good use of this technique, we should do likewise.

B.  One of the most effective disinformation programs has been the 
selected use of "expose" books and stories, all reputedly written by 
former government and super-government officials, but in fact 
developed within the NSA and CIA.

1.  Connections to actual government operations, and the bona fides 
of such expose authors are deliberately vague in order to make 
tracing and verifying their stories difficult.

2.  Although the books and information "exposed" would seemingly be 
extremely critical of our long-term programs and objectives, the 
contradictions contained within, the difficulty of verifying either 
authors or details, and the wild-eyed style verging on the irrational 
would all work to discredit and raise doubts.

3.  The presentation of fringe and extremist religious doctrine and 
beliefs, or the presentation of Christian religious beliefs in 
particularly dogmatic and intolerant fashion, would help to turn 
popular opinion against The Disrupter Movement.

IV.  Other Propaganda Efforts

A.  Print Media/Publications

1.  Appropriate use of popular media intended to discredit and attack 
opponents is a fundamental tool of countering The Disrupters Movement

2.  While control of the major media outlets is crucial to such 
efforts, it is through "fringe" media publications that the most 
damage can be done to The Disrupters Movement. Continued use of 
assets within the counter-media can be extremely beneficial.

B.  Electronic/Computer Systems: Electronic computer systems, 
bulletin boards, and information superhighway in general is an area 
of considerable importance to efforts to combat the activities of The 
Disrupters Movement.  The ability of opponents to utilize computer 
bulletin boards to pass information and educate people must be met 
with an active program of disinformation and attack.

1.  One means of countering the effectiveness of such opposition 
efforts is the simple expedient of overloading their bulletin 
boards.  A single operator with one computer can set a program in 
motion that will send out thousands of messages.  The sheer volume 
of such messages is more important than the content.  Most people 
will give up rather than read through hundreds and thousands of 
messages.

2.  A second means of countering the opposition's use of computer 
technology is through the careful placing of disinformation agents.  
Such agents can take two forms:

a.  Agents may be placed who will simply argue against the 
opposition, using delaying and confusing tactics such as constantly 
demanding references and "proof" of allegations, referring to 
obscure and difficult to find documents as evidence that the 
opposition is wrong, and generally forcing the opposition to waste 
tremendous amounts of time simply defending itself from spurious 
and irrelevant attacks.

b.  Other agents have been placed with a more subtle purpose in 
mind.  Such agents would take on the persona and attitude of members 
of The Disrupters Movement, but would present the opposition's case 
in ways that will ultimately discredit them.  The necessary effort 
to correct the messages posted by these agents, and the resulting 
appearance of disarray within the their camp should present 
considerable opportunities for further assaults on The Disrupters 
Movement.

3.  In cases of computer networks where it is highly imperative that 
the efforts of The Disrupters be neutralized, coordinated assaults 
can be arranged using aliases and multiple membership IDs to present 
a wide array of negative and meddlesome messages.

C.  Diversionary efforts

1.  Bread and Circuses 

a.  celebrities The use of celebrities is a proven means of diverting 
attention from serious political issues. Moreover, the use of 
selected celebrity figures as political spokesperson can be a very 
effective means of getting our message across.

b.  sports Sports are useful as a means of diverting attention from 
serious political issues and dulling the minds of the populace.  By 
focusing all their energies on sporting events, we can prevent people 
>from undertaking the intense and serious study necessary to take 
effective political action.

c.  Gambling The provision of numerous outlets for public gambling 
serves multiple purposes.  It serves to keep the popular attention 
engaged on sporting events, as well as what has become known 
as "lottery fever." Perhaps more important, widespread gambling not 
only keeps the general public poor, it provides needed income for our 
own uses---especially when allowed in the form of state lotteries 
which purport to provide money for education, senior citizens, or 
other popular purposes.  In fact, through the careful use of 
accounting manipulation, much of the funds raised are being diverted 
to support many of the other programs and efforts described in this 
memo.

D.  Talk shows: Talk shows serve a dual purpose.

(1) By diverting attention from serious issues, such programs dull 
the public intellect and prevent people from focusing on real issues 
and problems.

(2) By constantly presenting groups such as homosexuals, feminists, 
etc., in a favorable light, and presenting real "white supremacists,"
"religious zealots," and other opponents unfavorably, these programs 
can serve to reaffirm in the public mind which people are "good" and 
which are "bad."

It is our belief that the above strategies.  if implemented 
effectively, can be effective in countering and ultimately rendering 
ineffective the efforts of The Disrupters Movement.

                     - TOP SECRET -

Also found here in original text:
http://www.darkconspiracy.com/conspiracies/nwo/agg.txt

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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kmcvay@vex.net (Ken McVay) wrote ...
> In article <2005a7f1.0301091921.4f1d7f18@posting.google.com>,
> EG Warman wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> >Well then, Jeff T, upon what basis do you refute the information
> >which I posted on this thread? Do you have any proof that there is
> >wrong information here? What agenda do you have in just poo-pooing
> 
> Speaking of wrong information and proof, Mr. Warman...
> 
> Now back to those questions you're so afraid to answer:
> 
> On January 7, 2003, you responded to comments of mine in this manner:
> 
> "Neat attempt by a queer at posing a 'red herring' I would suggest."
> (Warman, 2005a7f1.0301071028.1f1bdc61@posting.google.com)
> 
> 1. Do you have evidence that I am a "queer," Mr. Warman?
>    Are you asserting that I am a homosexual?
> 
> "I have better things to do than read the rantings of a pedophile 
> queer who spouts the treason of Zionism?" (Ibid.)
> 
Anyone who is a traitor to his country and country of residence
is a "queer" in my books.

> 2. Are you asserting that I am a pedophile, Mr. Warman? If so, be 
>    advised that I take such defamatory remarks very seriously, and 
>    fully intend to require you to justify this assertion before a 
>    Canadian court.
> 
> "Why is TRUTH heard as "babble" by you Queer Zionist Jews..." (Ibid.)
> 
Guess you have to decide whether you are a pedophile or not, McVay. 
I have as a primary objective the teaching Canadians that they have 
been totally scammed, defrauded and extorted by the Crown and the 
Canadian Government. If that is interpreted by you to mean that 
I am disrupting the Zionist banksters' plans of enslaving and 
murdering masses of people on this continent, so be it.

> 3. Are you asserting that I am a homosexual, Mr. Warman, or that I
>    am Jewish?
> 
> "You mean the same sort of 'gutter trash' that play with little boys,
> and use scam tax exemptions to use Canadian scammed income tax 
> to further the vicious Zionist pogroms of America." (Ibid.)
> 
I would not insult good Jews by saying that you are Jewish, but,
by your activities, I would sincerely suspect that you are a 
Zionist, be it Communist, Jesuit or Freemason - any of which 
would account for your "queer" nature.
> 
> 4. Are you asserting that I am a pedophile, Mr. Warman? If so, be 
>    advised that I take such defamatory remarks very seriously, and 
>    fully intend to require you to justify this assertion before a 
>    Canadian court.
> 
I will let you decide whether you are a pedophile, or not, McVay.
I personally don't give a shit what you are. 

> 5. Are you asserting that I am involved in a tax "scam," Mr. Warman? 
>    If so, please prepare to prove your allegation in a court of law.
> 
> Now, Mr. Warman, why don't you quit running away, and either back up
> your big mouth with *facts*, or admit you're a mudslinging hatemonger
> without a shred of evidence behind you?
> 
The only "a mudslinging hatemonger" I notice on this NG is you
Damage Control Goons who defend the Canadian and American income 
tax scam. Whether you use, or misuse, that income tax scam for your 
own benefit is no direct concern of mine.

Your questions are a typical "red herring" scam of a true Zionist 
traitor.

Let's see where you are coming from, Mr. McVay, and who assigned
you as a Damage control Goon for the Zionists agenda here in 
Canada. Seems that it is not coincidental that you showed up from
California and were assigned to Nanaimo just as bruce Ryder
was doing his thing regarding the GST:

*************************************************************
http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/417.html

NOFORNDIS March 26, 1993
TOP SECRET - CODEWORD: CABLESPLICE

- TOP SECRET - - TOP SECRET -

SUBJECT: An Aggressive Program to Counter The Disrupters Movement
             ( A National Security Agency document? )
SUMMARY:

Recent efforts by The Disrupters Movement to gain political influence 
are beginning to seriously and adversely affect public perceptions 
and understanding of ongoing programs aimed at smoothing the transfer 
of sovereignty and power from national governments to super-national 
statist organizations.  Unless such efforts are countered and 
discredited, the task of creating a unified global government under 
UN control will be far more difficult.  The most dangerous element of 
The Disrupters Movement are those that are part of the Christian 
Fundamentalist majority.  The following memorandum offers a set of 
policy prescriptions designed to counter-act their efforts.

ANALYSIS OF PROBLEM

Although there has always been opposition from groups and individuals 
with a conservative, isolationist attitude, the recent growth of such 
opposition, and the ability and organizational success of these 
groups has raised serious concern in recent years.  Unless steps are 
taken to meet the challenge posed by The Disrupters Movement, it is 
possible that these groups could make serious inroads into the public 
complacence which has been so carefully nurtured over the past fifty 
years.

The threat is two-fold.  First, there is the traditional conservative 
political threat, one which can be traced back to pre-WWII 
isolationism and political conservatism.  These groups are not of 
particular concern as their organizing ability and numbers do not 
suggest the capability for amassing significant political power.

It is the second category, the "Christian fundamentalists," that pose 
the greatest threat.  These people are representative of a massive 
population of Americans and if allowed to propagandize and organize 
that base could present serious obstacles to further progress.

I.  Overt Programs: Overt programs to counter growing influence of 
Christian and other groups should take various forms:

A.  An active effort aimed at promoting the benefits of global 
organizations and institutions.  Media stories, books, conferences, 
and other means should be utilized to get the story out in 
appropriate fashion.

Appearances

B.  Appearances by political figures, well-known celebrities and 
other influential figures at events connected to international and 
super-national organizations and institutions.  Of particular use are 
events which involve "feel-good" operations such as UNICEF, Feed the 
Children, Americares, etc.

C.  Promotion of peaceful uses of atomic energy, disarmament as a 
necessary condition to peace and security, and tolerance and 
acceptance of non-Christian faiths should be promoted consistently 
but with enough subtlety so as not to turn off the targeted 
populations.

   1.Under no circumstances, however, should such efforts be allowed 
to raise fears regarding these goals, nor should they provide 
substantive evidence of the true objectives of USG policy.

   2.An important means of developing support for disarmament and the 
reliance on the United Nations to impose global order is through 
raising fears of nuclear weapons.  By playing up the danger of 
nuclear war, it should be possible to generate considerable public 
support for further movement toward the disarmament of national 
states.  This diverts attention from the real nature of the 
disarmament effort by portraying it as necessary to world peace, 
rather than as a step on the road to world government.

D.  A massive attack on The Disrupters Movement, and especially 
Christian religious groups.  This assault would challenge them as 
intolerant, hateful, exclusionist, and potentially dangerous.
Such a program would include the following:

  1.Efforts should be made to falsely portray their objectives as the 
creation of a religious theocracy and the imposition of strict 
religious interpretation of the Bible as the basis for political 
participation in "the New Christian America." This can best be 
accomplished by focusing on the most outrageous and extremist 
statements and members, while downplaying the more moderate 
membership.

  2."Christian" groups should whenever possible be portrayed as 
fringe elements of the country's religious population, not especially 
numerous and certainly not representative of "most" Christians.

  3.At every opportunity these "Christian" groups should be presented 
as vicious, intolerant, and especially as anti-
semitic.  The selective use of quotes, and if necessary, the use of 
invented statements, can be a most effective means of accomplishing 
this task.

  4.Arrest either on criminal charges or on mental inquest warrants 
certain members of The Disrupters Movement who by their fanatical 
religious life-styles and/or their EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS would be 
psychologically and physically prepared to survive outside of 
government control.

5.Harassment on criminal charges or mental inquest warrants of those 
who listen to and/or sympathize with The Disrupters Movement.

II.  Covert Programs: Covert programs may be equally as important, 
if not more so, to countering the increasing effectiveness of The 
Disrupters Movement.

A.  Infiltration of The Disrupters Movement by sympathetic agents 
is an extremely useful tool in combatting their efforts.

1.  By carrying out extreme acts, and especially acts of violence, 
such individuals can bring discredit and public condemnation against 
The Disrupters Movement.

2.  By raising confusion, and carefully encouraging splits and 
controversy within The Disrupters Movement, such agents will be able 
to reduce the effectiveness and coherency of those groups.

B.  Individuals who have been groomed to operate outside the usual 
channels of political activity should be activated and placed in 
positions in which they appear to be in opposition to USG policy.

1.  These persons would speak out publically in opposition to our 
policies, but would in fact be sympathetic to our long-
term objectives.  By carefully and selectively providing false or 
misleading information, and information of a seemingly scandalous or 
dramatic nature, they would seem to be supporting the agenda of The 
Disrupters Movement.  But when the information they promulgated was 
shown to be patently false, it would further damage the credibility 
of the opposition.

2.  The use of certain talk radio personalities along the lines 
suggested in paragraph 1 has already proven quite effective and 
further ventures along these lines could be beneficial.

3.  In extreme situations, it may become useful or even necessary for 
these undercover assets to carry out certain operations against 
members of The Disrupters Movement who are interfering with 
CABLESPLICE.  In some cases, terminations with extreme prejudice may 
be called for.

C.  Subversion and Elimination of the Second Amendment 1.  One of the 
most critical efforts must be the removal of firearms from individual 
control.  The on-going long-term program to accomplish this is 
beginning to bear fruit and further efforts along current lines are 
advised.

a.  The use of "agent provocateurs," individuals who are seemingly 
insane (but who are never taken alive) who create highly publicized 
mass killings with automatic weapons has been particularly useful in 
molding public opinion.  Similarly, the regular use of random 
killings in large urban areas as a way of creating a climate of fear 
and violence has resulted in significant gains for the gun-control 
point of view. Such programs are extremely useful and shold be 
continued and possibly expanded.

b.  On-going efforts to gain small footholds in gun-control are 
worthwhile as they open the door to further controls later on.  
The importance of eliminating the Second Amendment right to bear 
firearms cannot be stressed too much.

III.  Disinformation Programs: These programs should be designed to 
carefully seed the media with false and misleading information about 
long-term goals and plans, as well as forged and deceptive details 
about The Disrupters Movement.

A.  Careful and selective placement of spurious and potentially 
damaging news stories in the popular media is an excellent means of 
raising doubts and fears in the minds of the population.  Our 
opponents have made good use of this technique, we should do likewise.

B.  One of the most effective disinformation programs has been the 
selected use of "expose" books and stories, all reputedly written by 
former government and super-government officials, but in fact 
developed within the NSA and CIA.

1.  Connections to actual government operations, and the bona fides 
of such expose authors are deliberately vague in order to make 
tracing and verifying their stories difficult.

2.  Although the books and information "exposed" would seemingly be 
extremely critical of our long-term programs and objectives, the 
contradictions contained within, the difficulty of verifying either 
authors or details, and the wild-eyed style verging on the irrational 
would all work to discredit and raise doubts.

3.  The presentation of fringe and extremist religious doctrine and 
beliefs, or the presentation of Christian religious beliefs in 
particularly dogmatic and intolerant fashion, would help to turn 
popular opinion against The Disrupter Movement.

IV.  Other Propaganda Efforts

A.  Print Media/Publications

1.  Appropriate use of popular media intended to discredit and attack 
opponents is a fundamental tool of countering The Disrupters Movement

2.  While control of the major media outlets is crucial to such 
efforts, it is through "fringe" media publications that the most 
damage can be done to The Disrupters Movement. Continued use of 
assets within the counter-media can be extremely beneficial.

B.  Electronic/Computer Systems: Electronic computer systems, 
bulletin boards, and information superhighway in general is an area 
of considerable importance to efforts to combat the activities of The 
Disrupters Movement.  The ability of opponents to utilize computer 
bulletin boards to pass information and educate people must be met 
with an active program of disinformation and attack.

1.  One means of countering the effectiveness of such opposition 
efforts is the simple expedient of overloading their bulletin 
boards.  A single operator with one computer can set a program in 
motion that will send out thousands of messages.  The sheer volume 
of such messages is more important than the content.  Most people 
will give up rather than read through hundreds and thousands of 
messages.

2.  A second means of countering the opposition's use of computer 
technology is through the careful placing of disinformation agents.  
Such agents can take two forms:

a.  Agents may be placed who will simply argue against the 
opposition, using delaying and confusing tactics such as constantly 
demanding references and "proof" of allegations, referring to 
obscure and difficult to find documents as evidence that the 
opposition is wrong, and generally forcing the opposition to waste 
tremendous amounts of time simply defending itself from spurious 
and irrelevant attacks.

b.  Other agents have been placed with a more subtle purpose in 
mind.  Such agents would take on the persona and attitude of members 
of The Disrupters Movement, but would present the opposition's case 
in ways that will ultimately discredit them.  The necessary effort 
to correct the messages posted by these agents, and the resulting 
appearance of disarray within the their camp should present 
considerable opportunities for further assaults on The Disrupters 
Movement.

3.  In cases of computer networks where it is highly imperative that 
the efforts of The Disrupters be neutralized, coordinated assaults 
can be arranged using aliases and multiple membership IDs to present 
a wide array of negative and meddlesome messages.

C.  Diversionary efforts

1.  Bread and Circuses 

a.  celebrities The use of celebrities is a proven means of diverting 
attention from serious political issues. Moreover, the use of 
selected celebrity figures as political spokesperson can be a very 
effective means of getting our message across.

b.  sports Sports are useful as a means of diverting attention from 
serious political issues and dulling the minds of the populace.  By 
focusing all their energies on sporting events, we can prevent people 
>from undertaking the intense and serious study necessary to take 
effective political action.

c.  Gambling The provision of numerous outlets for public gambling 
serves multiple purposes.  It serves to keep the popular attention 
engaged on sporting events, as well as what has become known 
as "lottery fever." Perhaps more important, widespread gambling not 
only keeps the general public poor, it provides needed income for our 
own uses---especially when allowed in the form of state lotteries 
which purport to provide money for education, senior citizens, or 
other popular purposes.  In fact, through the careful use of 
accounting manipulation, much of the funds raised are being diverted 
to support many of the other programs and efforts described in this 
memo.

D.  Talk shows: Talk shows serve a dual purpose.

(1) By diverting attention from serious issues, such programs dull 
the public intellect and prevent people from focusing on real issues 
and problems.

(2) By constantly presenting groups such as homosexuals, feminists, 
etc., in a favorable light, and presenting real "white supremacists,"
"religious zealots," and other opponents unfavorably, these programs 
can serve to reaffirm in the public mind which people are "good" and 
which are "bad."

It is our belief that the above strategies.  if implemented 
effectively, can be effective in countering and ultimately rendering 
ineffective the efforts of The Disrupters Movement.

                     - TOP SECRET -

Also found here in original text:
http://www.darkconspiracy.com/conspiracies/nwo/agg.txt

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


From egwarman@outgun.com Sat Jan 11 19:50:43 EST 2003
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From: egwarman@outgun.com (EG Warman)
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kmcvay@vex.net (Ken McVay) wrote in message news:<1_uT9.319$NC4.18403452@news.nnrp.ca>...
> In article <2005a7f1.0301091907.4805478a@posting.google.com>,
> EG Warman  wrote:
> >THIRTY-NINE QUESTIONS ON THE HOLOCAUST 
> 
> http://www.nizkor.org/features/qar [yawn]
> 
> Now back to those questions you're so afraid to answer:
> 
> On January 7, 2003, you responded to comments of mine in this manner:
> 
> "Neat attempt by a queer at posing a 'red herring' I would suggest."
> (Warman, 2005a7f1.0301071028.1f1bdc61@posting.google.com)
> 
> 1. Do you have evidence that I am a "queer," Mr. Warman?
>    Are you asserting that I am a homosexual?
> 
> "I have better things to do than read the rantings of a pedophile 
> queer who spouts the treason of Zionism?" (Ibid.)
> 
> 2. Are you asserting that I am a pedophile, Mr. Warman? If so, be 
>    advised that I take such defamatory remarks very seriously, and 
>    fully intend to require you to justify this assertion before a 
>    Canadian court.
> 
> "Why is TRUTH heard as "babble" by you Queer Zionist Jews..." (Ibid.)
> 
> 3. Are you asserting that I am a homosexual, Mr. Warman, or that I
>    am Jewish?
> 
> "You mean the same sort of 'gutter trash' that play with little boys,
> and use scam tax exemptions to use Canadian scammed income tax 
> to further the vicious Zionist pogroms of America." (Ibid.)
> 
> 
> 4. Are you asserting that I am a pedophile, Mr. Warman? If so, be 
>    advised that I take such defamatory remarks very seriously, and 
>    fully intend to require you to justify this assertion before a 
>    Canadian court.
> 
> 5. Are you asserting that I am involved in a tax "scam," Mr. Warman? 
>    If so, please prepare to prove your allegation in a court of law.
> 
> Now, Mr. Warman, why don't you quit running away, and either back up
> your big mouth with *facts*, or admit you're a mudslinging hatemonger
> without a shred of evidence behind you?
> 
Only if you tell all of the people in these NGs about your assignment
as a Damage Control Goon from California to Nanaimo, BC just
when Bruce Ryder was fighting the GST. I presume the following
NSA? document tell all, eh? :

*************************************************************
http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/417.html

NOFORNDIS March 26, 1993
TOP SECRET - CODEWORD: CABLESPLICE

- TOP SECRET - - TOP SECRET -

SUBJECT: An Aggressive Program to Counter The Disrupters Movement
             ( A National Security Agency document? )
SUMMARY:

Recent efforts by The Disrupters Movement to gain political influence 
are beginning to seriously and adversely affect public perceptions 
and understanding of ongoing programs aimed at smoothing the transfer 
of sovereignty and power from national governments to super-national 
statist organizations.  Unless such efforts are countered and 
discredited, the task of creating a unified global government under 
UN control will be far more difficult.  The most dangerous element of 
The Disrupters Movement are those that are part of the Christian 
Fundamentalist majority.  The following memorandum offers a set of 
policy prescriptions designed to counter-act their efforts.

ANALYSIS OF PROBLEM

Although there has always been opposition from groups and individuals 
with a conservative, isolationist attitude, the recent growth of such 
opposition, and the ability and organizational success of these 
groups has raised serious concern in recent years.  Unless steps are 
taken to meet the challenge posed by The Disrupters Movement, it is 
possible that these groups could make serious inroads into the public 
complacence which has been so carefully nurtured over the past fifty 
years.

The threat is two-fold.  First, there is the traditional conservative 
political threat, one which can be traced back to pre-WWII 
isolationism and political conservatism.  These groups are not of 
particular concern as their organizing ability and numbers do not 
suggest the capability for amassing significant political power.

It is the second category, the "Christian fundamentalists," that pose 
the greatest threat.  These people are representative of a massive 
population of Americans and if allowed to propagandize and organize 
that base could present serious obstacles to further progress.

I.  Overt Programs: Overt programs to counter growing influence of 
Christian and other groups should take various forms:

A.  An active effort aimed at promoting the benefits of global 
organizations and institutions.  Media stories, books, conferences, 
and other means should be utilized to get the story out in 
appropriate fashion.

Appearances

B.  Appearances by political figures, well-known celebrities and 
other influential figures at events connected to international and 
super-national organizations and institutions.  Of particular use are 
events which involve "feel-good" operations such as UNICEF, Feed the 
Children, Americares, etc.

C.  Promotion of peaceful uses of atomic energy, disarmament as a 
necessary condition to peace and security, and tolerance and 
acceptance of non-Christian faiths should be promoted consistently 
but with enough subtlety so as not to turn off the targeted 
populations.

   1.Under no circumstances, however, should such efforts be allowed 
to raise fears regarding these goals, nor should they provide 
substantive evidence of the true objectives of USG policy.

   2.An important means of developing support for disarmament and the 
reliance on the United Nations to impose global order is through 
raising fears of nuclear weapons.  By playing up the danger of 
nuclear war, it should be possible to generate considerable public 
support for further movement toward the disarmament of national 
states.  This diverts attention from the real nature of the 
disarmament effort by portraying it as necessary to world peace, 
rather than as a step on the road to world government.

D.  A massive attack on The Disrupters Movement, and especially 
Christian religious groups.  This assault would challenge them as 
intolerant, hateful, exclusionist, and potentially dangerous.
Such a program would include the following:

  1.Efforts should be made to falsely portray their objectives as the 
creation of a religious theocracy and the imposition of strict 
religious interpretation of the Bible as the basis for political 
participation in "the New Christian America." This can best be 
accomplished by focusing on the most outrageous and extremist 
statements and members, while downplaying the more moderate 
membership.

  2."Christian" groups should whenever possible be portrayed as 
fringe elements of the country's religious population, not especially 
numerous and certainly not representative of "most" Christians.

  3.At every opportunity these "Christian" groups should be presented 
as vicious, intolerant, and especially as anti-
semitic.  The selective use of quotes, and if necessary, the use of 
invented statements, can be a most effective means of accomplishing 
this task.

  4.Arrest either on criminal charges or on mental inquest warrants 
certain members of The Disrupters Movement who by their fanatical 
religious life-styles and/or their EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS would be 
psychologically and physically prepared to survive outside of 
government control.

5.Harassment on criminal charges or mental inquest warrants of those 
who listen to and/or sympathize with The Disrupters Movement.

II.  Covert Programs: Covert programs may be equally as important, 
if not more so, to countering the increasing effectiveness of The 
Disrupters Movement.

A.  Infiltration of The Disrupters Movement by sympathetic agents 
is an extremely useful tool in combatting their efforts.

1.  By carrying out extreme acts, and especially acts of violence, 
such individuals can bring discredit and public condemnation against 
The Disrupters Movement.

2.  By raising confusion, and carefully encouraging splits and 
controversy within The Disrupters Movement, such agents will be able 
to reduce the effectiveness and coherency of those groups.

B.  Individuals who have been groomed to operate outside the usual 
channels of political activity should be activated and placed in 
positions in which they appear to be in opposition to USG policy.

1.  These persons would speak out publically in opposition to our 
policies, but would in fact be sympathetic to our long-
term objectives.  By carefully and selectively providing false or 
misleading information, and information of a seemingly scandalous or 
dramatic nature, they would seem to be supporting the agenda of The 
Disrupters Movement.  But when the information they promulgated was 
shown to be patently false, it would further damage the credibility 
of the opposition.

2.  The use of certain talk radio personalities along the lines 
suggested in paragraph 1 has already proven quite effective and 
further ventures along these lines could be beneficial.

3.  In extreme situations, it may become useful or even necessary for 
these undercover assets to carry out certain operations against 
members of The Disrupters Movement who are interfering with 
CABLESPLICE.  In some cases, terminations with extreme prejudice may 
be called for.

C.  Subversion and Elimination of the Second Amendment 1.  One of the 
most critical efforts must be the removal of firearms from individual 
control.  The on-going long-term program to accomplish this is 
beginning to bear fruit and further efforts along current lines are 
advised.

a.  The use of "agent provocateurs," individuals who are seemingly 
insane (but who are never taken alive) who create highly publicized 
mass killings with automatic weapons has been particularly useful in 
molding public opinion.  Similarly, the regular use of random 
killings in large urban areas as a way of creating a climate of fear 
and violence has resulted in significant gains for the gun-control 
point of view. Such programs are extremely useful and shold be 
continued and possibly expanded.

b.  On-going efforts to gain small footholds in gun-control are 
worthwhile as they open the door to further controls later on.  
The importance of eliminating the Second Amendment right to bear 
firearms cannot be stressed too much.

III.  Disinformation Programs: These programs should be designed to 
carefully seed the media with false and misleading information about 
long-term goals and plans, as well as forged and deceptive details 
about The Disrupters Movement.

A.  Careful and selective placement of spurious and potentially 
damaging news stories in the popular media is an excellent means of 
raising doubts and fears in the minds of the population.  Our 
opponents have made good use of this technique, we should do likewise.

B.  One of the most effective disinformation programs has been the 
selected use of "expose" books and stories, all reputedly written by 
former government and super-government officials, but in fact 
developed within the NSA and CIA.

1.  Connections to actual government operations, and the bona fides 
of such expose authors are deliberately vague in order to make 
tracing and verifying their stories difficult.

2.  Although the books and information "exposed" would seemingly be 
extremely critical of our long-term programs and objectives, the 
contradictions contained within, the difficulty of verifying either 
authors or details, and the wild-eyed style verging on the irrational 
would all work to discredit and raise doubts.

3.  The presentation of fringe and extremist religious doctrine and 
beliefs, or the presentation of Christian religious beliefs in 
particularly dogmatic and intolerant fashion, would help to turn 
popular opinion against The Disrupter Movement.

IV.  Other Propaganda Efforts

A.  Print Media/Publications

1.  Appropriate use of popular media intended to discredit and attack 
opponents is a fundamental tool of countering The Disrupters Movement

2.  While control of the major media outlets is crucial to such 
efforts, it is through "fringe" media publications that the most 
damage can be done to The Disrupters Movement. Continued use of 
assets within the counter-media can be extremely beneficial.

B.  Electronic/Computer Systems: Electronic computer systems, 
bulletin boards, and information superhighway in general is an area 
of considerable importance to efforts to combat the activities of The 
Disrupters Movement.  The ability of opponents to utilize computer 
bulletin boards to pass information and educate people must be met 
with an active program of disinformation and attack.

1.  One means of countering the effectiveness of such opposition 
efforts is the simple expedient of overloading their bulletin 
boards.  A single operator with one computer can set a program in 
motion that will send out thousands of messages.  The sheer volume 
of such messages is more important than the content.  Most people 
will give up rather than read through hundreds and thousands of 
messages.

2.  A second means of countering the opposition's use of computer 
technology is through the careful placing of disinformation agents.  
Such agents can take two forms:

a.  Agents may be placed who will simply argue against the 
opposition, using delaying and confusing tactics such as constantly 
demanding references and "proof" of allegations, referring to 
obscure and difficult to find documents as evidence that the 
opposition is wrong, and generally forcing the opposition to waste 
tremendous amounts of time simply defending itself from spurious 
and irrelevant attacks.

b.  Other agents have been placed with a more subtle purpose in 
mind.  Such agents would take on the persona and attitude of members 
of The Disrupters Movement, but would present the opposition's case 
in ways that will ultimately discredit them.  The necessary effort 
to correct the messages posted by these agents, and the resulting 
appearance of disarray within the their camp should present 
considerable opportunities for further assaults on The Disrupters 
Movement.

3.  In cases of computer networks where it is highly imperative that 
the efforts of The Disrupters be neutralized, coordinated assaults 
can be arranged using aliases and multiple membership IDs to present 
a wide array of negative and meddlesome messages.

C.  Diversionary efforts

1.  Bread and Circuses 

a.  celebrities The use of celebrities is a proven means of diverting 
attention from serious political issues. Moreover, the use of 
selected celebrity figures as political spokesperson can be a very 
effective means of getting our message across.

b.  sports Sports are useful as a means of diverting attention from 
serious political issues and dulling the minds of the populace.  By 
focusing all their energies on sporting events, we can prevent people 
>from undertaking the intense and serious study necessary to take 
effective political action.

c.  Gambling The provision of numerous outlets for public gambling 
serves multiple purposes.  It serves to keep the popular attention 
engaged on sporting events, as well as what has become known 
as "lottery fever." Perhaps more important, widespread gambling not 
only keeps the general public poor, it provides needed income for our 
own uses---especially when allowed in the form of state lotteries 
which purport to provide money for education, senior citizens, or 
other popular purposes.  In fact, through the careful use of 
accounting manipulation, much of the funds raised are being diverted 
to support many of the other programs and efforts described in this 
memo.

D.  Talk shows: Talk shows serve a dual purpose.

(1) By diverting attention from serious issues, such programs dull 
the public intellect and prevent people from focusing on real issues 
and problems.

(2) By constantly presenting groups such as homosexuals, feminists, 
etc., in a favorable light, and presenting real "white supremacists,"
"religious zealots," and other opponents unfavorably, these programs 
can serve to reaffirm in the public mind which people are "good" and 
which are "bad."

It is our belief that the above strategies.  if implemented 
effectively, can be effective in countering and ultimately rendering 
ineffective the efforts of The Disrupters Movement.

                     - TOP SECRET -

Also found here in original text:
http://www.darkconspiracy.com/conspiracies/nwo/agg.txt

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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kmcvay@vex.net (Ken McVay) wrote ...
> In article <2005a7f1.0301091644.32e271c5@posting.google.com>,
> EG Warman  wrote:
> >Ken McVay wrote...
> >> 
(Pigshit clipped)

Now, McVay, tell us about your assignment to Nanaimo from California
as a Damage Control Goon for your ADL and Bankster masters, at
the time that Bruce Ryder was fighting the GST?

Was this the directive you were to follow?

*************************************************************
http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/417.html

NOFORNDIS March 26, 1993
TOP SECRET - CODEWORD: CABLESPLICE

- TOP SECRET - - TOP SECRET -

SUBJECT: An Aggressive Program to Counter The Disrupters Movement
             ( A National Security Agency document? )
SUMMARY:

Recent efforts by The Disrupters Movement to gain political influence 
are beginning to seriously and adversely affect public perceptions 
and understanding of ongoing programs aimed at smoothing the transfer 
of sovereignty and power from national governments to super-national 
statist organizations.  Unless such efforts are countered and 
discredited, the task of creating a unified global government under 
UN control will be far more difficult.  The most dangerous element of 
The Disrupters Movement are those that are part of the Christian 
Fundamentalist majority.  The following memorandum offers a set of 
policy prescriptions designed to counter-act their efforts.

ANALYSIS OF PROBLEM

Although there has always been opposition from groups and individuals 
with a conservative, isolationist attitude, the recent growth of such 
opposition, and the ability and organizational success of these 
groups has raised serious concern in recent years.  Unless steps are 
taken to meet the challenge posed by The Disrupters Movement, it is 
possible that these groups could make serious inroads into the public 
complacence which has been so carefully nurtured over the past fifty 
years.

The threat is two-fold.  First, there is the traditional conservative 
political threat, one which can be traced back to pre-WWII 
isolationism and political conservatism.  These groups are not of 
particular concern as their organizing ability and numbers do not 
suggest the capability for amassing significant political power.

It is the second category, the "Christian fundamentalists," that pose 
the greatest threat.  These people are representative of a massive 
population of Americans and if allowed to propagandize and organize 
that base could present serious obstacles to further progress.

I.  Overt Programs: Overt programs to counter growing influence of 
Christian and other groups should take various forms:

A.  An active effort aimed at promoting the benefits of global 
organizations and institutions.  Media stories, books, conferences, 
and other means should be utilized to get the story out in 
appropriate fashion.

Appearances

B.  Appearances by political figures, well-known celebrities and 
other influential figures at events connected to international and 
super-national organizations and institutions.  Of particular use are 
events which involve "feel-good" operations such as UNICEF, Feed the 
Children, Americares, etc.

C.  Promotion of peaceful uses of atomic energy, disarmament as a 
necessary condition to peace and security, and tolerance and 
acceptance of non-Christian faiths should be promoted consistently 
but with enough subtlety so as not to turn off the targeted 
populations.

   1.Under no circumstances, however, should such efforts be allowed 
to raise fears regarding these goals, nor should they provide 
substantive evidence of the true objectives of USG policy.

   2.An important means of developing support for disarmament and the 
reliance on the United Nations to impose global order is through 
raising fears of nuclear weapons.  By playing up the danger of 
nuclear war, it should be possible to generate considerable public 
support for further movement toward the disarmament of national 
states.  This diverts attention from the real nature of the 
disarmament effort by portraying it as necessary to world peace, 
rather than as a step on the road to world government.

D.  A massive attack on The Disrupters Movement, and especially 
Christian religious groups.  This assault would challenge them as 
intolerant, hateful, exclusionist, and potentially dangerous.
Such a program would include the following:

  1.Efforts should be made to falsely portray their objectives as the 
creation of a religious theocracy and the imposition of strict 
religious interpretation of the Bible as the basis for political 
participation in "the New Christian America." This can best be 
accomplished by focusing on the most outrageous and extremist 
statements and members, while downplaying the more moderate 
membership.

  2."Christian" groups should whenever possible be portrayed as 
fringe elements of the country's religious population, not especially 
numerous and certainly not representative of "most" Christians.

  3.At every opportunity these "Christian" groups should be presented 
as vicious, intolerant, and especially as anti-
semitic.  The selective use of quotes, and if necessary, the use of 
invented statements, can be a most effective means of accomplishing 
this task.

  4.Arrest either on criminal charges or on mental inquest warrants 
certain members of The Disrupters Movement who by their fanatical 
religious life-styles and/or their EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS would be 
psychologically and physically prepared to survive outside of 
government control.

5.Harassment on criminal charges or mental inquest warrants of those 
who listen to and/or sympathize with The Disrupters Movement.

II.  Covert Programs: Covert programs may be equally as important, 
if not more so, to countering the increasing effectiveness of The 
Disrupters Movement.

A.  Infiltration of The Disrupters Movement by sympathetic agents 
is an extremely useful tool in combatting their efforts.

1.  By carrying out extreme acts, and especially acts of violence, 
such individuals can bring discredit and public condemnation against 
The Disrupters Movement.

2.  By raising confusion, and carefully encouraging splits and 
controversy within The Disrupters Movement, such agents will be able 
to reduce the effectiveness and coherency of those groups.

B.  Individuals who have been groomed to operate outside the usual 
channels of political activity should be activated and placed in 
positions in which they appear to be in opposition to USG policy.

1.  These persons would speak out publically in opposition to our 
policies, but would in fact be sympathetic to our long-
term objectives.  By carefully and selectively providing false or 
misleading information, and information of a seemingly scandalous or 
dramatic nature, they would seem to be supporting the agenda of The 
Disrupters Movement.  But when the information they promulgated was 
shown to be patently false, it would further damage the credibility 
of the opposition.

2.  The use of certain talk radio personalities along the lines 
suggested in paragraph 1 has already proven quite effective and 
further ventures along these lines could be beneficial.

3.  In extreme situations, it may become useful or even necessary for 
these undercover assets to carry out certain operations against 
members of The Disrupters Movement who are interfering with 
CABLESPLICE.  In some cases, terminations with extreme prejudice may 
be called for.

C.  Subversion and Elimination of the Second Amendment 1.  One of the 
most critical efforts must be the removal of firearms from individual 
control.  The on-going long-term program to accomplish this is 
beginning to bear fruit and further efforts along current lines are 
advised.

a.  The use of "agent provocateurs," individuals who are seemingly 
insane (but who are never taken alive) who create highly publicized 
mass killings with automatic weapons has been particularly useful in 
molding public opinion.  Similarly, the regular use of random 
killings in large urban areas as a way of creating a climate of fear 
and violence has resulted in significant gains for the gun-control 
point of view. Such programs are extremely useful and shold be 
continued and possibly expanded.

b.  On-going efforts to gain small footholds in gun-control are 
worthwhile as they open the door to further controls later on.  
The importance of eliminating the Second Amendment right to bear 
firearms cannot be stressed too much.

III.  Disinformation Programs: These programs should be designed to 
carefully seed the media with false and misleading information about 
long-term goals and plans, as well as forged and deceptive details 
about The Disrupters Movement.

A.  Careful and selective placement of spurious and potentially 
damaging news stories in the popular media is an excellent means of 
raising doubts and fears in the minds of the population.  Our 
opponents have made good use of this technique, we should do likewise.

B.  One of the most effective disinformation programs has been the 
selected use of "expose" books and stories, all reputedly written by 
former government and super-government officials, but in fact 
developed within the NSA and CIA.

1.  Connections to actual government operations, and the bona fides 
of such expose authors are deliberately vague in order to make 
tracing and verifying their stories difficult.

2.  Although the books and information "exposed" would seemingly be 
extremely critical of our long-term programs and objectives, the 
contradictions contained within, the difficulty of verifying either 
authors or details, and the wild-eyed style verging on the irrational 
would all work to discredit and raise doubts.

3.  The presentation of fringe and extremist religious doctrine and 
beliefs, or the presentation of Christian religious beliefs in 
particularly dogmatic and intolerant fashion, would help to turn 
popular opinion against The Disrupter Movement.

IV.  Other Propaganda Efforts

A.  Print Media/Publications

1.  Appropriate use of popular media intended to discredit and attack 
opponents is a fundamental tool of countering The Disrupters Movement

2.  While control of the major media outlets is crucial to such 
efforts, it is through "fringe" media publications that the most 
damage can be done to The Disrupters Movement. Continued use of 
assets within the counter-media can be extremely beneficial.

B.  Electronic/Computer Systems: Electronic computer systems, 
bulletin boards, and information superhighway in general is an area 
of considerable importance to efforts to combat the activities of The 
Disrupters Movement.  The ability of opponents to utilize computer 
bulletin boards to pass information and educate people must be met 
with an active program of disinformation and attack.

1.  One means of countering the effectiveness of such opposition 
efforts is the simple expedient of overloading their bulletin 
boards.  A single operator with one computer can set a program in 
motion that will send out thousands of messages.  The sheer volume 
of such messages is more important than the content.  Most people 
will give up rather than read through hundreds and thousands of 
messages.

2.  A second means of countering the opposition's use of computer 
technology is through the careful placing of disinformation agents.  
Such agents can take two forms:

a.  Agents may be placed who will simply argue against the 
opposition, using delaying and confusing tactics such as constantly 
demanding references and "proof" of allegations, referring to 
obscure and difficult to find documents as evidence that the 
opposition is wrong, and generally forcing the opposition to waste 
tremendous amounts of time simply defending itself from spurious 
and irrelevant attacks.

b.  Other agents have been placed with a more subtle purpose in 
mind.  Such agents would take on the persona and attitude of members 
of The Disrupters Movement, but would present the opposition's case 
in ways that will ultimately discredit them.  The necessary effort 
to correct the messages posted by these agents, and the resulting 
appearance of disarray within the their camp should present 
considerable opportunities for further assaults on The Disrupters 
Movement.

3.  In cases of computer networks where it is highly imperative that 
the efforts of The Disrupters be neutralized, coordinated assaults 
can be arranged using aliases and multiple membership IDs to present 
a wide array of negative and meddlesome messages.

C.  Diversionary efforts

1.  Bread and Circuses 

a.  celebrities The use of celebrities is a proven means of diverting 
attention from serious political issues. Moreover, the use of 
selected celebrity figures as political spokesperson can be a very 
effective means of getting our message across.

b.  sports Sports are useful as a means of diverting attention from 
serious political issues and dulling the minds of the populace.  By 
focusing all their energies on sporting events, we can prevent people 
>from undertaking the intense and serious study necessary to take 
effective political action.

c.  Gambling The provision of numerous outlets for public gambling 
serves multiple purposes.  It serves to keep the popular attention 
engaged on sporting events, as well as what has become known 
as "lottery fever." Perhaps more important, widespread gambling not 
only keeps the general public poor, it provides needed income for our 
own uses---especially when allowed in the form of state lotteries 
which purport to provide money for education, senior citizens, or 
other popular purposes.  In fact, through the careful use of 
accounting manipulation, much of the funds raised are being diverted 
to support many of the other programs and efforts described in this 
memo.

D.  Talk shows: Talk shows serve a dual purpose.

(1) By diverting attention from serious issues, such programs dull 
the public intellect and prevent people from focusing on real issues 
and problems.

(2) By constantly presenting groups such as homosexuals, feminists, 
etc., in a favorable light, and presenting real "white supremacists,"
"religious zealots," and other opponents unfavorably, these programs 
can serve to reaffirm in the public mind which people are "good" and 
which are "bad."

It is our belief that the above strategies.  if implemented 
effectively, can be effective in countering and ultimately rendering 
ineffective the efforts of The Disrupters Movement.

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Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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According to the old laws of England, which are still in force, 
many current British politicians qualify for hanging and their 
laws are null and void  

HIGH TREASON  
The Complete Text of Capt. K. R. McKilliam, M.A. 

The British Nation is bedevilled today by alien organisations that 
have established themselves within our Christian Nation and aim to 
take us over, to destroy our Christian culture and force us to 
follow their preconceived designs. Unfortunately they have 
infiltrated themselves into our educational and religious systems 
and have educated many adepts among our people who unknowingly carry 
out their will. Many of them have been advanced to high places. 

LAWS AGAINST ESTABLISHING A FOREIGN POWER IN ENGLAND

In 1353 Edward III by his statute of Praemunire forbade appeals 
being made to foreign courts. Richard II who came to the throne in 
1377 issued a Statute of Praemunire (16 Richard II II C5) which 
stated that anyone who procures from Rome or any other place any 
thing which touches the King, against him or his Crown or realm 
and all those aiding and abetting them shall be out of the King's 
protection. 

Their goods and land would be forfeited and they would be made to 
answer to the King and his council and a process of Praemunire 
Facias made against them. The learned constitutional lawyer, 
Blackstone, in Book 4, C8, states that Praemunire is "introducing 
a foreign power into the land and creating an Imperium in Imperio 
by paying obedience to other processes which constitutionally 
belong to the King alone." 

But although this is a general protection of the King, the consti-
tutional lawyer Littleton states that Praemunire Facias also extends 
to the King's loyal subjects and this particular protection is of 
two sorts, firstly it gives the subject immunity or freedom from 
action or suite and secondly to protect the safety of the subject 
and his goods, lands and possessions from violence, unlawful moles-
tation and wrong. This the subject gains by right and by law. 
Subjects are protected by the King, by the law and by the King's 
writ. 

‘Praemunire doth fortify Jurisdictionem Jurium Coronae Suae of the 
Kingly laws of the Crown against foreign jurisdiction and against 
the usurpers upon them as by divers acts of parliament appears.... 
A man who by judgement given against him upon writ of Praemunire 
Facias etc. is out of the King's protection. For such of these 
crimes for which any shall have this judgement, to be hanged by 
the neck until he be dead and shall forfeit all his lands and 
chattels.' 

Poster's note:  Pay attention McVay

HIGH TREASON

Treason is the act of betraying; betrayal of a trust undertaken by 
or reposed in anyone; a breach of faith, treachery. High Treason or 
Treason Proper is the violation of a subject of his allegiance to 
his sovereign or to the state, levying war on the King's dominions, 
adhering to the King's enemies in his dominions, or aiding them in 
or out of the realm. In 1795 the offence was extended to include 
the contemplated use of force to make the King change his counsels. 

Poster's note:  This is the crime committed by the British Columbia
Government official who bestowed the Order of British Columbia (OBC)
on this traitor, McVay, knowing full well that he was aiding and 
abetting the treasonous Zionist organization in its devistation
of Canada.

MISPRISION OF TREASON

Misprision of Treason is an offence or misdemeanor akin to treason 
or felony. It is the neglect of duty by a public official who 
conceals a knowledge of treasonable actions or designs. At an assize 
it may warrant the same penalty as High Treason. A subject of the 
Crown is also bound to inform the magistrates if he knows that High 
Treason is being contemplated. 

ESTABLISHING AN IMPERIUM IN IMPERIO: THE JEWS

The Jews had been in England in Anglo-Saxon times dealing in slaves. 
Jews however came into England with the Norman Conquest. They made 
themselves a threat to the people of this country by (1) clipping 
the gold coinage and turning the clippings into bullion for sale 
overseas (2) dispossessing good Christian Englishmen of their lands 
and property by high interest rates in usury (3) by the ritual murder 
of young Christian boys by crucifixion and drawing off the blood for 
ritual purposes; particularly Hugh of Lincoln in 1255; a child 
sacrificed in Nottingham in 1279; and the ritual murder of a boy in 
Oxford by the Jew Isaac de Pulet in 1290 (Patent Roll. Edward I, mem. 
21 21st June, 1290; Public Records Office). 

On the 18th of July 1290, by a royal decree, King Edward I in his 
council expelled all Jews forever from England. Writs were sent out 
to the sheriffs of the English shires informing them that by royal 
edict all Jews were to leave the English realm before November 1st 
1290, anyone who remained were to be executed. The population and 
parliament reacted with relief and great joy (Calendar of Close 
Rolls, 18 Edward I, Public Records Office). In his book Edward I 
(London, 1988) page 343, Michael Prestwick states that at a 
Parliament summoned to Westminster in that July a subsidy was granted 
and was collected. This subsidy was a thank offering for the Jews' 
expulsion. 

THE JEWS PRESENT BEGGING LETTERS TO CROMWELL

Various Jews made begging petitions to Oliver Cromwell to get him 
to revoke the Edict of Expulsion; but Cromwell, being only a 
commoner, could not revoke a royal edict and knew this. In February 
1658 Cromwell is said to have made an oral commitment to Antonio 
Fernandes Cavajal, the leader of the Jews (buried under the name 
of Abraham in the Jews' cemetery, London 1659), assuring his 
protection. This was in defiance of the recommendations of the 
council that the Jews should only be permitted the standing of 
ordinary aliens. This is the situation today (lecture by Lucien 
Wolf to the Jews College Literary Society in 1877). 

Joan Comay, wife of the Israeli Ambassador to the Court of St. 
James and to the United Nations wrote in her book Who's Who in 
Jewish History After the Period of the Old Testament, published 
in 1974: 

‘Manasseh [ben Israel] returned to Holland in October 1657, deeply 
distressed at what he considered to be the failure of his mission. 
Cromwell remained on friendly terms with him and granted him a 
pension of £100 a year. Although Edward I's edict of expulsion was 
not formally revoked as Manasseh had hoped, the resumption of Jewish 
worship achieved the same practical result. The edict has actually 
not been revoked to this day.' 

Because of the expulsion of the Jews from Europe, the Jews sent an 
appeal for advice to the Sanhedrin on the 13th of January 1489. 
The reply came back from the Prince of the Jews in Constantinople. 
It advised the Jews of Europe to adopt the tactics of the Trojan 
Horse: to make their sons Christian priests, lawyers, doctors etc. 
and to destroy the Christian structure from within. 

Thus, by 1990, we have had one known Bah-Mitzvahed bishop in the 
Church of England, Bishop Hugh Montefiore, numerous Jewish Queen's 
Counsels in the legal profession and at least seven foreign Jews 
in the House of Lords. 

It may be disputed that these old edicts have fallen into disuse and 
are no longer applicable. At a celebration to commemorate the 
conquering of England by William Duke of Normandy in 1066 held at 
Caen, the Mayor of Bordeaux assured all those present that the town 
of Bordeaux had faithfully paid the levy on wine placed on the town 
throughout the whole period of 900 years. An attempt had been made 
to have the levy annulled but this could not be done since the Queen 
of England is still Duke of Normandy, and Count of Aquitaine. 

Israel Moses Sieff with his Political and Economic Planning (P.E.P.) 
tried to get rid of ancient territorial boundaries for the new 
county councils. Although the new county councils are in operation, 
all law officers functioning in Lancashire are appointed by the 
Duchy and County Palatine of Lancaster and not by the Lord Chancellor 
of Parliament. The courts are Duchy courts and all offences are 
against the Duke's peace. The County Palatine of the Duchy of 
Lancaster is outwith the jurisdiction of parliament under the wills 
of Henry II, Henry III and Henry IV, and certain acts of parliament 
are inapplicable within the Duchy. A similar position is found in 
the Principality and County Palatine of Durham. 

Being prohibited aliens by the Edict of Expulsion Jews have no right 
to sit in our houses of parliament, nor on our local government 
councils. They have no right to be in the judiciary nor to hold 
office in the executive of government nor in the police force. All 
purported laws and purported acts of parliament in which Jews have 
taken part in the voting are illegal, unconstitutional: null and void.

Contrary to the Statutes of Praemunire traitors we elect to 
parliament have allowed the Jews to establish an Imperium in Imperio,
the 'Board of Jewish Deputies,' which have gained to themselves
powers to influence the policies of British governments to their 
own universal advantage. The Daily Telegraph of 19th January 1972 
stated: "The Zionist Congress is the head of the world's political 
movement." World's Works - Inner Mountain Jewish News on 1st March 
1976 stated: 

‘This world organization has a highly centralized form of government, 
this consists of an international committee including representatives 
>from all countries that have a local organization. But the real 
control is vested in what is known as the Inner Actions Council. 
This is a compact body of only seven men and it is dominated by 
the Jews of Europe.' 

MUSLIMS ATTEMPT TO SET UP ANOTHER IMPERIUM IN IMPERIO

It is the function of the Attorney General to advise governments and 
government departments (see Whitaker's Almanac). Succeeding Attorneys 
General have failed to advise governments of the implications of the 
contents of Magna Carta, the Petition of Rights, the Bill of Rights 
and Habeas Corpus. This is a dereliction of duty. Another attempt to 
establish an Imperium in Imperio by aliens, a felony of Praemunire, 
was reported in the Daily Telegraph of 15th July 1990. 

It was stated that the Muslim leader Kalim Siddiqui called for a 
special relationship between Muslims here and the government of Iran. 
He launched a manifesto to politicize Britain's Muslim community which
aimed to establish an Islamic parliament, to persuade Muslims to 
discriminate in favour of other Muslims, to place the names of all 
Muslims in Britain on a computer database and to raise five million 
pounds to establish a Muslim parliament in Britain. 

To do this is to commit the felony of Praemunire punishable with death
by hanging. The culprits are those subjects of the Crown who have 
allowed this situation to arise. It is up to the government to give 
all Muslims their marching orders out of this country or incur the 
penalties laid down for Praemunire, allowing aliens to establish an 
Imperium in Imperio. 

In bringing this matter to the attention of fellow subjects of the 
Crown I am under the Queen's protection for as Fitzherbert wrote 
(Vide 7 Co. 8, 9, Calvin's Case ANT 130a, Sect 199) "Every loyal 
subject is in the Queen's Protection." 

THE PURPORTED RACE RELATIONS ACTS

The so-called Race Relations Acts are conspiracies to use acts of 
parliament to enforce the racial integration of subjects of the 
Crown with Negroes and Asiatics especially brought here for the 
purpose. They are acts of racial hatred against us by prohibited 
immigrants. 
The Race Relations Act of 1965 was introduced to parliament by the 
Russian Jew Frank Soskice, purported Labour Attorney General. 
Further Race Relations Acts were devised by the Board of Jewish 
Deputies. The Jewish Chronicle stated that amendments must be made 
to the Race Relations Act since the 1965 Race Relations Act was 
not working the way they wanted it to. The 1976 Race Relations Act 
was passed in the Commons by default, with only 132 of the 635 
members present; 124 Labour and Liberal traitors voted for the 
bill with eight Tories against. 

To terrorize the masses it was required to establish a network of 
so-called human rights agencies, the 'Race Relations Industry.' 
Ivor Benson writes that: 

‘the task was to penalize the instinctive responses of the local 
resident population in the presence of unassimilable neighbours 
who have been forced upon them... Hereto there are rich pickings 
for decadent, deracinated elements who help to impose the tyranny, 
like human dregs who rule the roost and spend millions of the 
tax-payers' money in Britain's innumerable inner-city ghettoes. 
Nor should we omit to mention the zealous active connivance of 
politicians and bureaucrats whose greed for personal advancement 
is rationalized with a spurious humanistic ideology.‘ 
There are three phases in this Jewish imposition of race mixing: 

Phase One: Unassimilable population elements are introduced into 
all-White communities of the West as legitimate immigrants, 
supposedly because their labour was needed. 

Phase Two: Public opposition is circumvented by introducing them 
as refugees. 

Phase Three: Which came into effect right from the start, is a 
massive and sustained campaign of mental terrorism aimed at 
suppressing every form of popular dissent and opposition. The 
campaign of terrorism has taken two forms, one aimed at the 
leadership and the other at the masses. Any political leader 
who dares to give voice to what his own people think and feel 
is at once made the target by the Jews by an orchestrated 
campaign of vilification with Jewish-devised swear words  "Nazi,"
"Fascist," "racialist," "racist" while support
in money and publicity is diverted to political rivals and 
opponents. The masses are terrorized by Jewish-led Socialist 
Workers Party mobs who are quite prepared to use violence when 
necessary. 

Poster's note: Doesn't this sound very familiar?

IMMIGRATION

The massive immigration of Islamics and other coloured peoples is 
illegal and the British people, subjects of the Crown, were never 
consulted about whether they wanted their country to become a multi-
racial, multi-cultural society. Mrs Margaret Thatcher deceived the 
nation in 1979 when she declared that Britain was becoming swamped 
with immigrants, using the fears of the subjects of the Crown to 
gain votes and giving the impression that she would stem the flow. 
Having got her party into government she did nothing about it, only 
allowed vast numbers more into the country. Multi-racialism and 
multi-culturalism has been illegally and unconstitutionally imposed 
on this nation and the Jewish power controlling the government will 
ensure that the nation will never be consulted. 

THE PURPORTED PUBLIC ORDER ACT OF 1986

The so-called Public Order Act of 1986 is a conspiracy to use an act 
of parliament to enable investigators to enter the homes of subjects 
of the Crown to gain evidence to initiate action in the law courts 
against those offending against the purported Race Relations Act. 
This Act was placed before parliament by the purported Conservative 
Home Secretary, the prohibited Jewish immigrant from Lithuania, 
Leon Brittanisky, also known as Leon Brittan, assisted by his cousin, 
another Lithuanian Jew, Malcolm Rivkind, also know as Malcolm Rifkind.
This bill was primarily to prevent subjects of the Crown from 
discussing and revealing the Jewish take-over of our nation. 

THE PURPORTED NATIONALITY ACT
The so-called Nationality Act is a conspiracy to use an act of 
parliament to take away our rights as subjects of the Crown. This 
act makes the place of birth rather than the genetic and racial 
identity of the individual the criteria for nationality. Britons 
>from Australia and Canada visiting the continent from Britain were 
surprised on their return to be presented with documents to sign 
marked "Alien" while Pakistanis and other Asians passed through 
with British passports as British nationals. 

This Act purports to replace ancestry, that for generations has been 
the practical definition of the British subject, by the definition 
of an accidental place of birth. Thus it seeks to encourage the 
development of a nation of half-breeds and to swamp and destroy 
the British people and their customs. 

In The Common Law of England, 198. N2, Sir Edward Coke states: 

‘Persons born beyond the seas, if their fathers or paternal grand-
fathers were natural born subjects, are likewise made so, though 
with an exception of some unfavourable persons.... Liegeus is ever 
taken for a natural born subject... Liegeance, a liegando, being 
the highest and greatest obligation of duty and obedience that can 
be. Liegance is the true and faithful obedience of a liegman or 
subject to his liege lord or sovereign. Alliegeance is born of 
faith: alliegeance is the essential law.' 

Until William Whitelaw's Nationality Act we have been subjects of 
the Crown and under the protection of the Crown. This Act purports 
to deprive us of this and make us merely British citizens. This Act 
together with the European Communities Act and the Treaty of Rome 
aims at destroying the British Monarchy as soon as possible. 
It is High Treason. 

By signing the United Nations Charter in 1946 and passing an act 
before parliament so-called British politicians were obliged to 
carry out the terms of the Charter. This entails the mixing of the 
races of the world to form a degraded population and the eradication 
of the British and other White races. These the planners regard, 
together with Christianity, as the main obstacles to the 
establishment of a totalitarian one-world government. 

The United Nations Charter was drafted by Alger Hiss, a convicted 
communist and Soviet agent together with Andrei Gromyko, a senior 
Soviet official. Alger Hiss occupied the directional chair at the
organizational conference of the United Nations. These people are
aiming at genocide of the White race. 

According to this Nationality Act the Queen is no longer our Queen 
and we are no longer her subjects. If we are no longer the subjects 
of the Crown this Act deprives us of the protection of the Crown, 
for according to the patent rolls of the Statute of Northampton 1328 
it is the duty of the Queen to protect her subjects despite 
parliament; thus we are protected from a possible anti-White 
anti-British parliament. This Act purports to deprive the Queen 
of her titles, lands and prerogatives. We no longer go to war for 
the Crown but for parliament. This is High Treason. 

A letter from the Home Secretary dated 31st May 1988, which appeared 
in the Independent newspaper on Monday 17th June 1988, made it plain 
that Her Majesty the Queen is prepared to place at the disposal of 
parliament all her remaining prerogatives: the power to make war or 
peace, to ratify treaties, to grant honours; the list is formidable 
embracing just about all those powers which remained to the monarch 
after the glorious revolution of 1688. 

The signature at the bottom of the letter is that of Douglas Hurd. 
The person who drew the Home Secretary into weighty correspondence 
is the cryptic left-winger, Tony Benn. Benn laid before parliament 
his Crown Prerogatives Bill to deprive the Crown of all the 
remainder of her prerogatives. 

THE PURPORTED EUROPEAN COMMUNITIES ACT

The European Communities Act of 1972 and the Treaty of Rome aims
at destroying the British monarchy as soon as possible. 

This is High Treason the penalty for which is death by hanging and 
this is still on the statute books. Likewise any subject of the Crown 
who knows that High Treason is being carried on and fails to report 
it is guilty of Misprision of High Treason, the penalty may be death: 
to deprive the Queen of her Crown or any of her dominions. 

Article 189 of the Treaty of Rome is irreconcilable with the Oath 
of Allegiance. There is an absolute constitutional case that there 
is no statute authority for the executive acts that have bound the 
UK to the EEC, nor for the British Nationality Act. Both are 
contrary to the interests of the Crown and people. 

The High Court of Great Britain disallowed an Act which was passed 
by our House of Commons and House of Lords and received the Royal 
Assent. This Act was the Shipping Act of 1988. The High Court 
referred the case to the European Court. This was the first case 
in the history of parliament that an Act passed by both houses of 
parliament with the Royal Assent and the regulations under it have 
been set aside. A British Court has interfered with an act of 
parliament in the interests of a foreign court. This is High Treason. 

We can claim that the Queen carry out her coronation oath and 
protect us from alien and foreign-made laws. 

We are legally not in the Common Market nor are we constitutionally 
a multi-racial multi-cultural society. Traitor Edward Heath carried 
out the plans of international Jewish financiers and multinational 
companies, the Imperial Institute for International Affairs and the 
Rothschilds to deceive the Queen in her grants. Many of us have 
taken the Oath of Allegiance to the Crown, her heirs and successors 
and demand protection from foreign-made laws made by aliens in Europe.

The Oath of Allegiance has been taken by members of parliament, 
Queen's Councillors, members of the Judiciary, clergy of the 
Church of England and members of the executive yet many of them 
are working for our enemies, for a slave-state full of debt which 
our children will inherit. A charge of perjury of the Oath of 
Allegiance and High Treason must be laid against all those culprits 
who have allowed our government to be over-ruled by directives 
coming from beyond the seas - from foreigners in Brussels and 
Strasbourg. 

Any attempt to take Scotland and England into the EEC is High Treason:
"Depriving the Queen of her lands and titles." All
purported MEP's are qualified for hanging. The basic statutes 
of the United Kingdom are still in force and are in conflict 
with growing foreign supremacy. 

The full sovereignty of the United Kingdom is not now in the hands 
of the Queen; her powers have been handed over by a despicable 
traitor Edward Heath on the instructions of his Jewish mentors. 
Edicts and laws can be sent out from Brussels and Strasbourg which 
are enforced by traitors in the United Kingdom. European Law and 
Community Law is now destroying the respective laws and customs 
of the British realm and the very birthright of the British people. 
 
High Treason: Laws Against Establishing a Foreign Power in England 
is published by the Heretical Press, ISBN 1-901240-15-0, 14pp.  

Author Note: Kenneth Roderick McKilliam (circa 1915 - 1993) was 
educated in Sydney, Australia and in 1934 went to the University 
of Queensland. Two years later he attended London University where 
he obtained an honours degree in psychology and sociology. As a 
volunteer soldier he saw service in the Somalian Military 
Administration and was later attached to the East African 
command H.Q. After the war he spent sixteen years in Africa as 
an Educational and Community Development Officer. 

He was active in church and social work and was a licensed reader 
in the diocesees of Mombasa Namirembe, Upper Nile, and Canterbury. 
He made extensive study tours of Asia, Africa and Australia. 
############################################################

How's this for a politically incorrect posting, McVay?
(Or, as you would say: A vile anti-semitic rant and diatribe...)
You will have to villify McKilliam by pissing on his grave,
since you don't have the means to villify him in life on your
coward's website.

Posted by:

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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kmcvay@vex.net (Ken McVay) wrote in message news:...
> In article <2005a7f1.0301100907.4561db04@posting.google.com>,
> EG Warman  wrote:
> 
> [Unresponsive claptrap]
> 
> Evasion noted, Mr. Warman. How's it feel to go through life as a
> big-mouthed coward?
> 
> Now back to those questions you're so afraid to answer:
> 
> On January 7, 2003, you responded to comments of mine in this manner:
> 
> "Neat attempt by a queer at posing a 'red herring' I would suggest."
> (Warman, 2005a7f1.0301071028.1f1bdc61@posting.google.com)
> 
> 1. Do you have evidence that I am a "queer," Mr. Warman?
>    Are you asserting that I am a homosexual?
> 
> "I have better things to do than read the rantings of a pedophile 
> queer who spouts the treason of Zionism?" (Ibid.)
> 
> 2. Are you asserting that I am a pedophile, Mr. Warman? If so, be 
>    advised that I take such defamatory remarks very seriously, and 
>    fully intend to require you to justify this assertion before a 
>    Canadian court.
> 
> "Why is TRUTH heard as "babble" by you Queer Zionist Jews..." (Ibid.)
> 
> 3. Are you asserting that I am a homosexual, Mr. Warman, or that I
>    am Jewish?
> 
> "You mean the same sort of 'gutter trash' that play with little boys,
> and use scam tax exemptions to use Canadian scammed income tax 
> to further the vicious Zionist pogroms of America." (Ibid.)
> 
> 
> 4. Are you asserting that I am a pedophile, Mr. Warman? If so, be 
>    advised that I take such defamatory remarks very seriously, and 
>    fully intend to require you to justify this assertion before a 
>    Canadian court.
> 
> 5. Are you asserting that I am involved in a tax "scam," Mr. Warman? 
>    If so, please prepare to prove your allegation in a court of law.
> 
> Now, Mr. Warman, why don't you quit running away, and either back up
> your big mouth with *facts*, or admit you're a mudslinging hatemonger
> without a shred of evidence behind you?
> 
Come on, McVay, tell us about your brainwashing program to commit high
treason against your American and Canadian fellow men and women:

Is this the NSA directive you had injected into your weak brain?

*************************************************************
http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/417.html

NOFORNDIS March 26, 1993
TOP SECRET - CODEWORD: CABLESPLICE

- TOP SECRET - - TOP SECRET -

SUBJECT: An Aggressive Program to Counter The Disrupters Movement
             ( A National Security Agency document? )
SUMMARY:

Recent efforts by The Disrupters Movement to gain political influence 
are beginning to seriously and adversely affect public perceptions 
and understanding of ongoing programs aimed at smoothing the transfer 
of sovereignty and power from national governments to super-national 
statist organizations.  Unless such efforts are countered and 
discredited, the task of creating a unified global government under 
UN control will be far more difficult.  The most dangerous element of 
The Disrupters Movement are those that are part of the Christian 
Fundamentalist majority.  The following memorandum offers a set of 
policy prescriptions designed to counter-act their efforts.

ANALYSIS OF PROBLEM

Although there has always been opposition from groups and individuals 
with a conservative, isolationist attitude, the recent growth of such 
opposition, and the ability and organizational success of these 
groups has raised serious concern in recent years.  Unless steps are 
taken to meet the challenge posed by The Disrupters Movement, it is 
possible that these groups could make serious inroads into the public 
complacence which has been so carefully nurtured over the past fifty 
years.

The threat is two-fold.  First, there is the traditional conservative 
political threat, one which can be traced back to pre-WWII 
isolationism and political conservatism.  These groups are not of 
particular concern as their organizing ability and numbers do not 
suggest the capability for amassing significant political power.

It is the second category, the "Christian fundamentalists," that pose 
the greatest threat.  These people are representative of a massive 
population of Americans and if allowed to propagandize and organize 
that base could present serious obstacles to further progress.

I.  Overt Programs: Overt programs to counter growing influence of 
Christian and other groups should take various forms:

A.  An active effort aimed at promoting the benefits of global 
organizations and institutions.  Media stories, books, conferences, 
and other means should be utilized to get the story out in 
appropriate fashion.

Appearances

B.  Appearances by political figures, well-known celebrities and 
other influential figures at events connected to international and 
super-national organizations and institutions.  Of particular use are 
events which involve "feel-good" operations such as UNICEF, Feed the 
Children, Americares, etc.

C.  Promotion of peaceful uses of atomic energy, disarmament as a 
necessary condition to peace and security, and tolerance and 
acceptance of non-Christian faiths should be promoted consistently 
but with enough subtlety so as not to turn off the targeted 
populations.

   1.Under no circumstances, however, should such efforts be allowed 
to raise fears regarding these goals, nor should they provide 
substantive evidence of the true objectives of USG policy.

   2.An important means of developing support for disarmament and the 
reliance on the United Nations to impose global order is through 
raising fears of nuclear weapons.  By playing up the danger of 
nuclear war, it should be possible to generate considerable public 
support for further movement toward the disarmament of national 
states.  This diverts attention from the real nature of the 
disarmament effort by portraying it as necessary to world peace, 
rather than as a step on the road to world government.

D.  A massive attack on The Disrupters Movement, and especially 
Christian religious groups.  This assault would challenge them as 
intolerant, hateful, exclusionist, and potentially dangerous.
Such a program would include the following:

  1.Efforts should be made to falsely portray their objectives as the 
creation of a religious theocracy and the imposition of strict 
religious interpretation of the Bible as the basis for political 
participation in "the New Christian America." This can best be 
accomplished by focusing on the most outrageous and extremist 
statements and members, while downplaying the more moderate 
membership.

  2."Christian" groups should whenever possible be portrayed as 
fringe elements of the country's religious population, not especially 
numerous and certainly not representative of "most" Christians.

  3.At every opportunity these "Christian" groups should be presented 
as vicious, intolerant, and especially as anti-
semitic.  The selective use of quotes, and if necessary, the use of 
invented statements, can be a most effective means of accomplishing 
this task.

  4.Arrest either on criminal charges or on mental inquest warrants 
certain members of The Disrupters Movement who by their fanatical 
religious life-styles and/or their EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS would be 
psychologically and physically prepared to survive outside of 
government control.

5.Harassment on criminal charges or mental inquest warrants of those 
who listen to and/or sympathize with The Disrupters Movement.

II.  Covert Programs: Covert programs may be equally as important, 
if not more so, to countering the increasing effectiveness of The 
Disrupters Movement.

A.  Infiltration of The Disrupters Movement by sympathetic agents 
is an extremely useful tool in combatting their efforts.

1.  By carrying out extreme acts, and especially acts of violence, 
such individuals can bring discredit and public condemnation against 
The Disrupters Movement.

2.  By raising confusion, and carefully encouraging splits and 
controversy within The Disrupters Movement, such agents will be able 
to reduce the effectiveness and coherency of those groups.

B.  Individuals who have been groomed to operate outside the usual 
channels of political activity should be activated and placed in 
positions in which they appear to be in opposition to USG policy.

1.  These persons would speak out publically in opposition to our 
policies, but would in fact be sympathetic to our long-
term objectives.  By carefully and selectively providing false or 
misleading information, and information of a seemingly scandalous or 
dramatic nature, they would seem to be supporting the agenda of The 
Disrupters Movement.  But when the information they promulgated was 
shown to be patently false, it would further damage the credibility 
of the opposition.

2.  The use of certain talk radio personalities along the lines 
suggested in paragraph 1 has already proven quite effective and 
further ventures along these lines could be beneficial.

3.  In extreme situations, it may become useful or even necessary for 
these undercover assets to carry out certain operations against 
members of The Disrupters Movement who are interfering with 
CABLESPLICE.  In some cases, terminations with extreme prejudice may 
be called for.

C.  Subversion and Elimination of the Second Amendment 1.  One of the 
most critical efforts must be the removal of firearms from individual 
control.  The on-going long-term program to accomplish this is 
beginning to bear fruit and further efforts along current lines are 
advised.

a.  The use of "agent provocateurs," individuals who are seemingly 
insane (but who are never taken alive) who create highly publicized 
mass killings with automatic weapons has been particularly useful in 
molding public opinion.  Similarly, the regular use of random 
killings in large urban areas as a way of creating a climate of fear 
and violence has resulted in significant gains for the gun-control 
point of view. Such programs are extremely useful and shold be 
continued and possibly expanded.

b.  On-going efforts to gain small footholds in gun-control are 
worthwhile as they open the door to further controls later on.  
The importance of eliminating the Second Amendment right to bear 
firearms cannot be stressed too much.

III.  Disinformation Programs: These programs should be designed to 
carefully seed the media with false and misleading information about 
long-term goals and plans, as well as forged and deceptive details 
about The Disrupters Movement.

A.  Careful and selective placement of spurious and potentially 
damaging news stories in the popular media is an excellent means of 
raising doubts and fears in the minds of the population.  Our 
opponents have made good use of this technique, we should do likewise.

B.  One of the most effective disinformation programs has been the 
selected use of "expose" books and stories, all reputedly written by 
former government and super-government officials, but in fact 
developed within the NSA and CIA.

1.  Connections to actual government operations, and the bona fides 
of such expose authors are deliberately vague in order to make 
tracing and verifying their stories difficult.

2.  Although the books and information "exposed" would seemingly be 
extremely critical of our long-term programs and objectives, the 
contradictions contained within, the difficulty of verifying either 
authors or details, and the wild-eyed style verging on the irrational 
would all work to discredit and raise doubts.

3.  The presentation of fringe and extremist religious doctrine and 
beliefs, or the presentation of Christian religious beliefs in 
particularly dogmatic and intolerant fashion, would help to turn 
popular opinion against The Disrupter Movement.

IV.  Other Propaganda Efforts

A.  Print Media/Publications

1.  Appropriate use of popular media intended to discredit and attack 
opponents is a fundamental tool of countering The Disrupters Movement

2.  While control of the major media outlets is crucial to such 
efforts, it is through "fringe" media publications that the most 
damage can be done to The Disrupters Movement. Continued use of 
assets within the counter-media can be extremely beneficial.

B.  Electronic/Computer Systems: Electronic computer systems, 
bulletin boards, and information superhighway in general is an area 
of considerable importance to efforts to combat the activities of The 
Disrupters Movement.  The ability of opponents to utilize computer 
bulletin boards to pass information and educate people must be met 
with an active program of disinformation and attack.

1.  One means of countering the effectiveness of such opposition 
efforts is the simple expedient of overloading their bulletin 
boards.  A single operator with one computer can set a program in 
motion that will send out thousands of messages.  The sheer volume 
of such messages is more important than the content.  Most people 
will give up rather than read through hundreds and thousands of 
messages.

2.  A second means of countering the opposition's use of computer 
technology is through the careful placing of disinformation agents.  
Such agents can take two forms:

a.  Agents may be placed who will simply argue against the 
opposition, using delaying and confusing tactics such as constantly 
demanding references and "proof" of allegations, referring to 
obscure and difficult to find documents as evidence that the 
opposition is wrong, and generally forcing the opposition to waste 
tremendous amounts of time simply defending itself from spurious 
and irrelevant attacks.

b.  Other agents have been placed with a more subtle purpose in 
mind.  Such agents would take on the persona and attitude of members 
of The Disrupters Movement, but would present the opposition's case 
in ways that will ultimately discredit them.  The necessary effort 
to correct the messages posted by these agents, and the resulting 
appearance of disarray within the their camp should present 
considerable opportunities for further assaults on The Disrupters 
Movement.

3.  In cases of computer networks where it is highly imperative that 
the efforts of The Disrupters be neutralized, coordinated assaults 
can be arranged using aliases and multiple membership IDs to present 
a wide array of negative and meddlesome messages.

C.  Diversionary efforts

1.  Bread and Circuses 

a.  celebrities The use of celebrities is a proven means of diverting 
attention from serious political issues. Moreover, the use of 
selected celebrity figures as political spokesperson can be a very 
effective means of getting our message across.

b.  sports Sports are useful as a means of diverting attention from 
serious political issues and dulling the minds of the populace.  By 
focusing all their energies on sporting events, we can prevent people 
>from undertaking the intense and serious study necessary to take 
effective political action.

c.  Gambling The provision of numerous outlets for public gambling 
serves multiple purposes.  It serves to keep the popular attention 
engaged on sporting events, as well as what has become known 
as "lottery fever." Perhaps more important, widespread gambling not 
only keeps the general public poor, it provides needed income for our 
own uses---especially when allowed in the form of state lotteries 
which purport to provide money for education, senior citizens, or 
other popular purposes.  In fact, through the careful use of 
accounting manipulation, much of the funds raised are being diverted 
to support many of the other programs and efforts described in this 
memo.

D.  Talk shows: Talk shows serve a dual purpose.

(1) By diverting attention from serious issues, such programs dull 
the public intellect and prevent people from focusing on real issues 
and problems.

(2) By constantly presenting groups such as homosexuals, feminists, 
etc., in a favorable light, and presenting real "white supremacists,"
"religious zealots," and other opponents unfavorably, these programs 
can serve to reaffirm in the public mind which people are "good" and 
which are "bad."

It is our belief that the above strategies.  if implemented 
effectively, can be effective in countering and ultimately rendering 
ineffective the efforts of The Disrupters Movement.

                     - TOP SECRET -

Also found here in original text:
http://www.darkconspiracy.com/conspiracies/nwo/agg.txt

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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knight@indystart.com (Black Knight) wrote ...
> egwarman@outgun.com (EG Warman) wrote ...

> > According to the old laws of England, which are still in force, 
> > many current British politicians qualify for hanging and their 
> > laws are null and void  
> > 
> > HIGH TREASON  
> > The Complete Text of Capt. K. R. McKilliam, M.A. 
> > 
> > The British Nation is bedevilled today by alien organisations that 
> > have established themselves within our Christian Nation and aim to 
> > take us over, to destroy our Christian culture and force us to 
> > follow their preconceived designs. Unfortunately they have 
> > infiltrated themselves into our educational and religious systems 
> > and have educated many adepts among our people who unknowingly carry 
> > out their will. Many of them have been advanced to high places. 
> > (clipped)
> 
> I hope the staff of your residence doesn't give you access to any 
> sharp objects.
> 
> Bruno

Hmmmm... Let's count 'em: We have three pseudonyms created in
McVay's evil Zionist mind - and just on this thread..... Jeff T,
Patrick Keenan, Black Knight (Bruno). How  many hundreds others
do you have?  How about "High Treason McVay"?

And, where do we find the simple minded (queer) McVay getting
his operationg orders? Maybe from this 1993 NSA directive, where
it says: 
"3.  In cases of computer networks where it is highly 
imperative that the efforts of The Disrupters be neutralized, 
coordinated assaults can be arranged using aliases and multiple 
membership IDs to present a wide array of negative and meddlesome 
messages."

*************************************************************
http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/417.html

NOFORNDIS March 26, 1993
TOP SECRET - CODEWORD: CABLESPLICE

- TOP SECRET - - TOP SECRET -

SUBJECT: An Aggressive Program to Counter The Disrupters Movement
             ( A National Security Agency document? )
SUMMARY:

Recent efforts by The Disrupters Movement to gain political influence 
are beginning to seriously and adversely affect public perceptions 
and understanding of ongoing programs aimed at smoothing the transfer 
of sovereignty and power from national governments to super-national 
statist organizations.  Unless such efforts are countered and 
discredited, the task of creating a unified global government under 
UN control will be far more difficult.  The most dangerous element of 
The Disrupters Movement are those that are part of the Christian 
Fundamentalist majority.  The following memorandum offers a set of 
policy prescriptions designed to counter-act their efforts.

ANALYSIS OF PROBLEM

Although there has always been opposition from groups and individuals 
with a conservative, isolationist attitude, the recent growth of such 
opposition, and the ability and organizational success of these 
groups has raised serious concern in recent years.  Unless steps are 
taken to meet the challenge posed by The Disrupters Movement, it is 
possible that these groups could make serious inroads into the public 
complacence which has been so carefully nurtured over the past fifty 
years.

The threat is two-fold.  First, there is the traditional conservative 
political threat, one which can be traced back to pre-WWII 
isolationism and political conservatism.  These groups are not of 
particular concern as their organizing ability and numbers do not 
suggest the capability for amassing significant political power.

It is the second category, the "Christian fundamentalists," that pose 
the greatest threat.  These people are representative of a massive 
population of Americans and if allowed to propagandize and organize 
that base could present serious obstacles to further progress.

I.  Overt Programs: Overt programs to counter growing influence of 
Christian and other groups should take various forms:

A.  An active effort aimed at promoting the benefits of global 
organizations and institutions.  Media stories, books, conferences, 
and other means should be utilized to get the story out in 
appropriate fashion.

Appearances

B.  Appearances by political figures, well-known celebrities and 
other influential figures at events connected to international and 
super-national organizations and institutions.  Of particular use are 
events which involve "feel-good" operations such as UNICEF, Feed the 
Children, Americares, etc.

C.  Promotion of peaceful uses of atomic energy, disarmament as a 
necessary condition to peace and security, and tolerance and 
acceptance of non-Christian faiths should be promoted consistently 
but with enough subtlety so as not to turn off the targeted 
populations.

   1.Under no circumstances, however, should such efforts be allowed 
to raise fears regarding these goals, nor should they provide 
substantive evidence of the true objectives of USG policy.

   2.An important means of developing support for disarmament and the 
reliance on the United Nations to impose global order is through 
raising fears of nuclear weapons.  By playing up the danger of 
nuclear war, it should be possible to generate considerable public 
support for further movement toward the disarmament of national 
states.  This diverts attention from the real nature of the 
disarmament effort by portraying it as necessary to world peace, 
rather than as a step on the road to world government.

D.  A massive attack on The Disrupters Movement, and especially 
Christian religious groups.  This assault would challenge them as 
intolerant, hateful, exclusionist, and potentially dangerous.
Such a program would include the following:

  1.Efforts should be made to falsely portray their objectives as the 
creation of a religious theocracy and the imposition of strict 
religious interpretation of the Bible as the basis for political 
participation in "the New Christian America." This can best be 
accomplished by focusing on the most outrageous and extremist 
statements and members, while downplaying the more moderate 
membership.

  2."Christian" groups should whenever possible be portrayed as 
fringe elements of the country's religious population, not especially 
numerous and certainly not representative of "most" Christians.

  3.At every opportunity these "Christian" groups should be presented 
as vicious, intolerant, and especially as anti-
semitic.  The selective use of quotes, and if necessary, the use of 
invented statements, can be a most effective means of accomplishing 
this task.

  4.Arrest either on criminal charges or on mental inquest warrants 
certain members of The Disrupters Movement who by their fanatical 
religious life-styles and/or their EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS would be 
psychologically and physically prepared to survive outside of 
government control.

5.Harassment on criminal charges or mental inquest warrants of those 
who listen to and/or sympathize with The Disrupters Movement.

II.  Covert Programs: Covert programs may be equally as important, 
if not more so, to countering the increasing effectiveness of The 
Disrupters Movement.

A.  Infiltration of The Disrupters Movement by sympathetic agents 
is an extremely useful tool in combatting their efforts.

1.  By carrying out extreme acts, and especially acts of violence, 
such individuals can bring discredit and public condemnation against 
The Disrupters Movement.

2.  By raising confusion, and carefully encouraging splits and 
controversy within The Disrupters Movement, such agents will be able 
to reduce the effectiveness and coherency of those groups.

B.  Individuals who have been groomed to operate outside the usual 
channels of political activity should be activated and placed in 
positions in which they appear to be in opposition to USG policy.

1.  These persons would speak out publically in opposition to our 
policies, but would in fact be sympathetic to our long-
term objectives.  By carefully and selectively providing false or 
misleading information, and information of a seemingly scandalous or 
dramatic nature, they would seem to be supporting the agenda of The 
Disrupters Movement.  But when the information they promulgated was 
shown to be patently false, it would further damage the credibility 
of the opposition.

2.  The use of certain talk radio personalities along the lines 
suggested in paragraph 1 has already proven quite effective and 
further ventures along these lines could be beneficial.

3.  In extreme situations, it may become useful or even necessary for 
these undercover assets to carry out certain operations against 
members of The Disrupters Movement who are interfering with 
CABLESPLICE.  In some cases, terminations with extreme prejudice may 
be called for.

C.  Subversion and Elimination of the Second Amendment 1.  One of the 
most critical efforts must be the removal of firearms from individual 
control.  The on-going long-term program to accomplish this is 
beginning to bear fruit and further efforts along current lines are 
advised.

a.  The use of "agent provocateurs," individuals who are seemingly 
insane (but who are never taken alive) who create highly publicized 
mass killings with automatic weapons has been particularly useful in 
molding public opinion.  Similarly, the regular use of random 
killings in large urban areas as a way of creating a climate of fear 
and violence has resulted in significant gains for the gun-control 
point of view. Such programs are extremely useful and shold be 
continued and possibly expanded.

b.  On-going efforts to gain small footholds in gun-control are 
worthwhile as they open the door to further controls later on.  
The importance of eliminating the Second Amendment right to bear 
firearms cannot be stressed too much.

III.  Disinformation Programs: These programs should be designed to 
carefully seed the media with false and misleading information about 
long-term goals and plans, as well as forged and deceptive details 
about The Disrupters Movement.

A.  Careful and selective placement of spurious and potentially 
damaging news stories in the popular media is an excellent means of 
raising doubts and fears in the minds of the population.  Our 
opponents have made good use of this technique, we should do likewise.

B.  One of the most effective disinformation programs has been the 
selected use of "expose" books and stories, all reputedly written by 
former government and super-government officials, but in fact 
developed within the NSA and CIA.

1.  Connections to actual government operations, and the bona fides 
of such expose authors are deliberately vague in order to make 
tracing and verifying their stories difficult.

2.  Although the books and information "exposed" would seemingly be 
extremely critical of our long-term programs and objectives, the 
contradictions contained within, the difficulty of verifying either 
authors or details, and the wild-eyed style verging on the irrational 
would all work to discredit and raise doubts.

3.  The presentation of fringe and extremist religious doctrine and 
beliefs, or the presentation of Christian religious beliefs in 
particularly dogmatic and intolerant fashion, would help to turn 
popular opinion against The Disrupter Movement.

IV.  Other Propaganda Efforts

A.  Print Media/Publications

1.  Appropriate use of popular media intended to discredit and attack 
opponents is a fundamental tool of countering The Disrupters Movement

2.  While control of the major media outlets is crucial to such 
efforts, it is through "fringe" media publications that the most 
damage can be done to The Disrupters Movement. Continued use of 
assets within the counter-media can be extremely beneficial.

B.  Electronic/Computer Systems: Electronic computer systems, 
bulletin boards, and information superhighway in general is an area 
of considerable importance to efforts to combat the activities of The 
Disrupters Movement.  The ability of opponents to utilize computer 
bulletin boards to pass information and educate people must be met 
with an active program of disinformation and attack.

1.  One means of countering the effectiveness of such opposition 
efforts is the simple expedient of overloading their bulletin 
boards.  A single operator with one computer can set a program in 
motion that will send out thousands of messages.  The sheer volume 
of such messages is more important than the content.  Most people 
will give up rather than read through hundreds and thousands of 
messages.

2.  A second means of countering the opposition's use of computer 
technology is through the careful placing of disinformation agents.  
Such agents can take two forms:

a.  Agents may be placed who will simply argue against the 
opposition, using delaying and confusing tactics such as constantly 
demanding references and "proof" of allegations, referring to 
obscure and difficult to find documents as evidence that the 
opposition is wrong, and generally forcing the opposition to waste 
tremendous amounts of time simply defending itself from spurious 
and irrelevant attacks.

b.  Other agents have been placed with a more subtle purpose in 
mind.  Such agents would take on the persona and attitude of members 
of The Disrupters Movement, but would present the opposition's case 
in ways that will ultimately discredit them.  The necessary effort 
to correct the messages posted by these agents, and the resulting 
appearance of disarray within the their camp should present 
considerable opportunities for further assaults on The Disrupters 
Movement.

3.  In cases of computer networks where it is highly imperative that 
the efforts of The Disrupters be neutralized, coordinated assaults 
can be arranged using aliases and multiple membership IDs to present 
a wide array of negative and meddlesome messages.

C.  Diversionary efforts

1.  Bread and Circuses 

a.  celebrities The use of celebrities is a proven means of diverting 
attention from serious political issues. Moreover, the use of 
selected celebrity figures as political spokesperson can be a very 
effective means of getting our message across.

b.  sports Sports are useful as a means of diverting attention from 
serious political issues and dulling the minds of the populace.  By 
focusing all their energies on sporting events, we can prevent people 
>from undertaking the intense and serious study necessary to take 
effective political action.

c.  Gambling The provision of numerous outlets for public gambling 
serves multiple purposes.  It serves to keep the popular attention 
engaged on sporting events, as well as what has become known 
as "lottery fever." Perhaps more important, widespread gambling not 
only keeps the general public poor, it provides needed income for our 
own uses---especially when allowed in the form of state lotteries 
which purport to provide money for education, senior citizens, or 
other popular purposes.  In fact, through the careful use of 
accounting manipulation, much of the funds raised are being diverted 
to support many of the other programs and efforts described in this 
memo.

D.  Talk shows: Talk shows serve a dual purpose.

(1) By diverting attention from serious issues, such programs dull 
the public intellect and prevent people from focusing on real issues 
and problems.

(2) By constantly presenting groups such as homosexuals, feminists, 
etc., in a favorable light, and presenting real "white supremacists,"
"religious zealots," and other opponents unfavorably, these programs 
can serve to reaffirm in the public mind which people are "good" and 
which are "bad."

It is our belief that the above strategies.  if implemented 
effectively, can be effective in countering and ultimately rendering 
ineffective the efforts of The Disrupters Movement.

                     - TOP SECRET -

Also found here in original text:
http://www.darkconspiracy.com/conspiracies/nwo/agg.txt

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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Ken McVay wrote...
> 
> [Questions Mr. Warman lacks the balls to answer]
> 
My "balls" aren't for the edification of "queers".

> >Come on, McVay, tell us about your brainwashing program to 
> >commit high treason against your American and Canadian fellow 
> >men and women:
> 
> Evasion noted, Mr. Warman.
> 
Correct McVay, you have evaded that like a true Zionist puke.

> Now back to those questions you're so afraid to answer:
> 
I have given you your answer. In your drugged state, you've obviously
missed it. So, here it is again:

"There are other definitions for "queer" - such as: differing in 
some odd way from what is usual or normal; eccentric, unconventional; 
mildly insane, touched; absorbed or interested to an exterme or 
unreasonable degree; obsessed; sexual deviate; homosexual; worthless,
counterfeit (money); questionable, suspicious; not quite well.....

Choose one(or all), as many as may fit your situation.

Now, McVay, Jeff T, Bruno, or whatever pseudonym you go by
at this minute, tell us how you, a California hippie, and draft
dodger of the 1960's/1970's chanced to get brainwashed into being
a Damage Control Goon for the Zionists - was it your overdoses
of LSD and maybe this directive from the NSA?:

*************************************************************
http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/417.html

NOFORNDIS March 26, 1993
TOP SECRET - CODEWORD: CABLESPLICE

- TOP SECRET - - TOP SECRET -

SUBJECT: An Aggressive Program to Counter The Disrupters Movement
             ( A National Security Agency document? )
SUMMARY:

Recent efforts by The Disrupters Movement to gain political influence 
are beginning to seriously and adversely affect public perceptions 
and understanding of ongoing programs aimed at smoothing the transfer 
of sovereignty and power from national governments to super-national 
statist organizations.  Unless such efforts are countered and 
discredited, the task of creating a unified global government under 
UN control will be far more difficult.  The most dangerous element of 
The Disrupters Movement are those that are part of the Christian 
Fundamentalist majority.  The following memorandum offers a set of 
policy prescriptions designed to counter-act their efforts.

ANALYSIS OF PROBLEM

Although there has always been opposition from groups and individuals 
with a conservative, isolationist attitude, the recent growth of such 
opposition, and the ability and organizational success of these 
groups has raised serious concern in recent years.  Unless steps are 
taken to meet the challenge posed by The Disrupters Movement, it is 
possible that these groups could make serious inroads into the public 
complacence which has been so carefully nurtured over the past fifty 
years.

The threat is two-fold.  First, there is the traditional conservative 
political threat, one which can be traced back to pre-WWII 
isolationism and political conservatism.  These groups are not of 
particular concern as their organizing ability and numbers do not 
suggest the capability for amassing significant political power.

It is the second category, the "Christian fundamentalists," that pose 
the greatest threat.  These people are representative of a massive 
population of Americans and if allowed to propagandize and organize 
that base could present serious obstacles to further progress.

I.  Overt Programs: Overt programs to counter growing influence of 
Christian and other groups should take various forms:

A.  An active effort aimed at promoting the benefits of global 
organizations and institutions.  Media stories, books, conferences, 
and other means should be utilized to get the story out in 
appropriate fashion.

Appearances

B.  Appearances by political figures, well-known celebrities and 
other influential figures at events connected to international and 
super-national organizations and institutions.  Of particular use are 
events which involve "feel-good" operations such as UNICEF, Feed the 
Children, Americares, etc.

C.  Promotion of peaceful uses of atomic energy, disarmament as a 
necessary condition to peace and security, and tolerance and 
acceptance of non-Christian faiths should be promoted consistently 
but with enough subtlety so as not to turn off the targeted 
populations.

   1.Under no circumstances, however, should such efforts be allowed 
to raise fears regarding these goals, nor should they provide 
substantive evidence of the true objectives of USG policy.

   2.An important means of developing support for disarmament and the 
reliance on the United Nations to impose global order is through 
raising fears of nuclear weapons.  By playing up the danger of 
nuclear war, it should be possible to generate considerable public 
support for further movement toward the disarmament of national 
states.  This diverts attention from the real nature of the 
disarmament effort by portraying it as necessary to world peace, 
rather than as a step on the road to world government.

D.  A massive attack on The Disrupters Movement, and especially 
Christian religious groups.  This assault would challenge them as 
intolerant, hateful, exclusionist, and potentially dangerous.
Such a program would include the following:

  1.Efforts should be made to falsely portray their objectives as the 
creation of a religious theocracy and the imposition of strict 
religious interpretation of the Bible as the basis for political 
participation in "the New Christian America." This can best be 
accomplished by focusing on the most outrageous and extremist 
statements and members, while downplaying the more moderate 
membership.

  2."Christian" groups should whenever possible be portrayed as 
fringe elements of the country's religious population, not especially 
numerous and certainly not representative of "most" Christians.

  3.At every opportunity these "Christian" groups should be presented 
as vicious, intolerant, and especially as anti-
semitic.  The selective use of quotes, and if necessary, the use of 
invented statements, can be a most effective means of accomplishing 
this task.

  4.Arrest either on criminal charges or on mental inquest warrants 
certain members of The Disrupters Movement who by their fanatical 
religious life-styles and/or their EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS would be 
psychologically and physically prepared to survive outside of 
government control.

5.Harassment on criminal charges or mental inquest warrants of those 
who listen to and/or sympathize with The Disrupters Movement.

II.  Covert Programs: Covert programs may be equally as important, 
if not more so, to countering the increasing effectiveness of The 
Disrupters Movement.

A.  Infiltration of The Disrupters Movement by sympathetic agents 
is an extremely useful tool in combatting their efforts.

1.  By carrying out extreme acts, and especially acts of violence, 
such individuals can bring discredit and public condemnation against 
The Disrupters Movement.

2.  By raising confusion, and carefully encouraging splits and 
controversy within The Disrupters Movement, such agents will be able 
to reduce the effectiveness and coherency of those groups.

B.  Individuals who have been groomed to operate outside the usual 
channels of political activity should be activated and placed in 
positions in which they appear to be in opposition to USG policy.

1.  These persons would speak out publically in opposition to our 
policies, but would in fact be sympathetic to our long-
term objectives.  By carefully and selectively providing false or 
misleading information, and information of a seemingly scandalous or 
dramatic nature, they would seem to be supporting the agenda of The 
Disrupters Movement.  But when the information they promulgated was 
shown to be patently false, it would further damage the credibility 
of the opposition.

2.  The use of certain talk radio personalities along the lines 
suggested in paragraph 1 has already proven quite effective and 
further ventures along these lines could be beneficial.

3.  In extreme situations, it may become useful or even necessary for 
these undercover assets to carry out certain operations against 
members of The Disrupters Movement who are interfering with 
CABLESPLICE.  In some cases, terminations with extreme prejudice may 
be called for.

C.  Subversion and Elimination of the Second Amendment 1.  One of the 
most critical efforts must be the removal of firearms from individual 
control.  The on-going long-term program to accomplish this is 
beginning to bear fruit and further efforts along current lines are 
advised.

a.  The use of "agent provocateurs," individuals who are seemingly 
insane (but who are never taken alive) who create highly publicized 
mass killings with automatic weapons has been particularly useful in 
molding public opinion.  Similarly, the regular use of random 
killings in large urban areas as a way of creating a climate of fear 
and violence has resulted in significant gains for the gun-control 
point of view. Such programs are extremely useful and shold be 
continued and possibly expanded.

b.  On-going efforts to gain small footholds in gun-control are 
worthwhile as they open the door to further controls later on.  
The importance of eliminating the Second Amendment right to bear 
firearms cannot be stressed too much.

III.  Disinformation Programs: These programs should be designed to 
carefully seed the media with false and misleading information about 
long-term goals and plans, as well as forged and deceptive details 
about The Disrupters Movement.

A.  Careful and selective placement of spurious and potentially 
damaging news stories in the popular media is an excellent means of 
raising doubts and fears in the minds of the population.  Our 
opponents have made good use of this technique, we should do likewise.

B.  One of the most effective disinformation programs has been the 
selected use of "expose" books and stories, all reputedly written by 
former government and super-government officials, but in fact 
developed within the NSA and CIA.

1.  Connections to actual government operations, and the bona fides 
of such expose authors are deliberately vague in order to make 
tracing and verifying their stories difficult.

2.  Although the books and information "exposed" would seemingly be 
extremely critical of our long-term programs and objectives, the 
contradictions contained within, the difficulty of verifying either 
authors or details, and the wild-eyed style verging on the irrational 
would all work to discredit and raise doubts.

3.  The presentation of fringe and extremist religious doctrine and 
beliefs, or the presentation of Christian religious beliefs in 
particularly dogmatic and intolerant fashion, would help to turn 
popular opinion against The Disrupter Movement.

IV.  Other Propaganda Efforts

A.  Print Media/Publications

1.  Appropriate use of popular media intended to discredit and attack 
opponents is a fundamental tool of countering The Disrupters Movement

2.  While control of the major media outlets is crucial to such 
efforts, it is through "fringe" media publications that the most 
damage can be done to The Disrupters Movement. Continued use of 
assets within the counter-media can be extremely beneficial.

B.  Electronic/Computer Systems: Electronic computer systems, 
bulletin boards, and information superhighway in general is an area 
of considerable importance to efforts to combat the activities of The 
Disrupters Movement.  The ability of opponents to utilize computer 
bulletin boards to pass information and educate people must be met 
with an active program of disinformation and attack.

1.  One means of countering the effectiveness of such opposition 
efforts is the simple expedient of overloading their bulletin 
boards.  A single operator with one computer can set a program in 
motion that will send out thousands of messages.  The sheer volume 
of such messages is more important than the content.  Most people 
will give up rather than read through hundreds and thousands of 
messages.

2.  A second means of countering the opposition's use of computer 
technology is through the careful placing of disinformation agents.  
Such agents can take two forms:

a.  Agents may be placed who will simply argue against the 
opposition, using delaying and confusing tactics such as constantly 
demanding references and "proof" of allegations, referring to 
obscure and difficult to find documents as evidence that the 
opposition is wrong, and generally forcing the opposition to waste 
tremendous amounts of time simply defending itself from spurious 
and irrelevant attacks.

b.  Other agents have been placed with a more subtle purpose in 
mind.  Such agents would take on the persona and attitude of members 
of The Disrupters Movement, but would present the opposition's case 
in ways that will ultimately discredit them.  The necessary effort 
to correct the messages posted by these agents, and the resulting 
appearance of disarray within the their camp should present 
considerable opportunities for further assaults on The Disrupters 
Movement.

3.  In cases of computer networks where it is highly imperative that 
the efforts of The Disrupters be neutralized, coordinated assaults 
can be arranged using aliases and multiple membership IDs to present 
a wide array of negative and meddlesome messages.

C.  Diversionary efforts

1.  Bread and Circuses 

a.  celebrities The use of celebrities is a proven means of diverting 
attention from serious political issues. Moreover, the use of 
selected celebrity figures as political spokesperson can be a very 
effective means of getting our message across.

b.  sports Sports are useful as a means of diverting attention from 
serious political issues and dulling the minds of the populace.  By 
focusing all their energies on sporting events, we can prevent people 
>from undertaking the intense and serious study necessary to take 
effective political action.

c.  Gambling The provision of numerous outlets for public gambling 
serves multiple purposes.  It serves to keep the popular attention 
engaged on sporting events, as well as what has become known 
as "lottery fever." Perhaps more important, widespread gambling not 
only keeps the general public poor, it provides needed income for our 
own uses---especially when allowed in the form of state lotteries 
which purport to provide money for education, senior citizens, or 
other popular purposes.  In fact, through the careful use of 
accounting manipulation, much of the funds raised are being diverted 
to support many of the other programs and efforts described in this 
memo.

D.  Talk shows: Talk shows serve a dual purpose.

(1) By diverting attention from serious issues, such programs dull 
the public intellect and prevent people from focusing on real issues 
and problems.

(2) By constantly presenting groups such as homosexuals, feminists, 
etc., in a favorable light, and presenting real "white supremacists,"
"religious zealots," and other opponents unfavorably, these programs 
can serve to reaffirm in the public mind which people are "good" and 
which are "bad."

It is our belief that the above strategies.  if implemented 
effectively, can be effective in countering and ultimately rendering 
ineffective the efforts of The Disrupters Movement.

                     - TOP SECRET -

Also found here in original text:
http://www.darkconspiracy.com/conspiracies/nwo/agg.txt

Eldon Warman
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(Ken McVay) wrote ...
>  
> >Anyone who is a traitor to his country and country of residence
> >is a "queer" in my books.
> 
> Are you asserting that I am a traitor to my country, Mr. Warman? That
> is, as you know, a serious criminal offense, so I want you to be very
> clear about what you have said.
> 
Here it is again, McVay:

According to the old laws of England, which are still in force, 
many current British politicians qualify for hanging and their 
laws are null and void  

HIGH TREASON  
The Complete Text of Capt. K. R. McKilliam, M.A. 

The British Nation is bedevilled today by alien organisations that 
have established themselves within our Christian Nation and aim to 
take us over, to destroy our Christian culture and force us to 
follow their preconceived designs. Unfortunately they have 
infiltrated themselves into our educational and religious systems 
and have educated many adepts among our people who unknowingly carry 
out their will. Many of them have been advanced to high places. 

LAWS AGAINST ESTABLISHING A FOREIGN POWER IN ENGLAND

In 1353 Edward III by his statute of Praemunire forbade appeals 
being made to foreign courts. Richard II who came to the throne in 
1377 issued a Statute of Praemunire (16 Richard II II C5) which 
stated that anyone who procures from Rome or any other place any 
thing which touches the King, against him or his Crown or realm 
and all those aiding and abetting them shall be out of the King's 
protection. 

Their goods and land would be forfeited and they would be made to 
answer to the King and his council and a process of Praemunire 
Facias made against them. The learned constitutional lawyer, 
Blackstone, in Book 4, C8, states that Praemunire is "introducing 
a foreign power into the land and creating an Imperium in Imperio 
by paying obedience to other processes which constitutionally 
belong to the King alone." 

But although this is a general protection of the King, the consti-
tutional lawyer Littleton states that Praemunire Facias also extends 
to the King's loyal subjects and this particular protection is of 
two sorts, firstly it gives the subject immunity or freedom from 
action or suite and secondly to protect the safety of the subject 
and his goods, lands and possessions from violence, unlawful moles-
tation and wrong. This the subject gains by right and by law. 
Subjects are protected by the King, by the law and by the King's 
writ. 

?Praemunire doth fortify Jurisdictionem Jurium Coronae Suae of the 
Kingly laws of the Crown against foreign jurisdiction and against 
the usurpers upon them as by divers acts of parliament appears.... 
A man who by judgement given against him upon writ of Praemunire 
Facias etc. is out of the King's protection. For such of these 
crimes for which any shall have this judgement, to be hanged by 
the neck until he be dead and shall forfeit all his lands and 
chattels.' 

Poster's note:  Pay attention McVay

HIGH TREASON

Treason is the act of betraying; betrayal of a trust undertaken by 
or reposed in anyone; a breach of faith, treachery. High Treason or 
Treason Proper is the violation of a subject of his allegiance to 
his sovereign or to the state, levying war on the King's dominions, 
adhering to the King's enemies in his dominions, or aiding them in 
or out of the realm. In 1795 the offence was extended to include 
the contemplated use of force to make the King change his counsels. 

Poster's note:  This is the crime committed by the British Columbia
Government official who bestowed the Order of British Columbia (OBC)
on this traitor, McVay, knowing full well that he was aiding and 
abetting the treasonous Zionist organization in its devistation
of Canada.

MISPRISION OF TREASON

Misprision of Treason is an offence or misdemeanor akin to treason 
or felony. It is the neglect of duty by a public official who 
conceals a knowledge of treasonable actions or designs. At an assize 
it may warrant the same penalty as High Treason. A subject of the 
Crown is also bound to inform the magistrates if he knows that High 
Treason is being contemplated. 

ESTABLISHING AN IMPERIUM IN IMPERIO: THE JEWS

The Jews had been in England in Anglo-Saxon times dealing in slaves. 
Jews however came into England with the Norman Conquest. They made 
themselves a threat to the people of this country by (1) clipping 
the gold coinage and turning the clippings into bullion for sale 
overseas (2) dispossessing good Christian Englishmen of their lands 
and property by high interest rates in usury (3) by the ritual murder 
of young Christian boys by crucifixion and drawing off the blood for 
ritual purposes; particularly Hugh of Lincoln in 1255; a child 
sacrificed in Nottingham in 1279; and the ritual murder of a boy in 
Oxford by the Jew Isaac de Pulet in 1290 (Patent Roll. Edward I, mem. 
21 21st June, 1290; Public Records Office). 

On the 18th of July 1290, by a royal decree, King Edward I in his 
council expelled all Jews forever from England. Writs were sent out 
to the sheriffs of the English shires informing them that by royal 
edict all Jews were to leave the English realm before November 1st 
1290, anyone who remained were to be executed. The population and 
parliament reacted with relief and great joy (Calendar of Close 
Rolls, 18 Edward I, Public Records Office). In his book Edward I 
(London, 1988) page 343, Michael Prestwick states that at a 
Parliament summoned to Westminster in that July a subsidy was granted 
and was collected. This subsidy was a thank offering for the Jews' 
expulsion. 

THE JEWS PRESENT BEGGING LETTERS TO CROMWELL

Various Jews made begging petitions to Oliver Cromwell to get him 
to revoke the Edict of Expulsion; but Cromwell, being only a 
commoner, could not revoke a royal edict and knew this. In February 
1658 Cromwell is said to have made an oral commitment to Antonio 
Fernandes Cavajal, the leader of the Jews (buried under the name 
of Abraham in the Jews' cemetery, London 1659), assuring his 
protection. This was in defiance of the recommendations of the 
council that the Jews should only be permitted the standing of 
ordinary aliens. This is the situation today (lecture by Lucien 
Wolf to the Jews College Literary Society in 1877). 

Joan Comay, wife of the Israeli Ambassador to the Court of St. 
James and to the United Nations wrote in her book Who's Who in 
Jewish History After the Period of the Old Testament, published 
in 1974: 

?Manasseh [ben Israel] returned to Holland in October 1657, deeply 
distressed at what he considered to be the failure of his mission. 
Cromwell remained on friendly terms with him and granted him a 
pension of £100 a year. Although Edward I's edict of expulsion was 
not formally revoked as Manasseh had hoped, the resumption of Jewish 
worship achieved the same practical result. The edict has actually 
not been revoked to this day.' 

Because of the expulsion of the Jews from Europe, the Jews sent an 
appeal for advice to the Sanhedrin on the 13th of January 1489. 
The reply came back from the Prince of the Jews in Constantinople. 
It advised the Jews of Europe to adopt the tactics of the Trojan 
Horse: to make their sons Christian priests, lawyers, doctors etc. 
and to destroy the Christian structure from within. 

Thus, by 1990, we have had one known Bah-Mitzvahed bishop in the 
Church of England, Bishop Hugh Montefiore, numerous Jewish Queen's 
Counsels in the legal profession and at least seven foreign Jews 
in the House of Lords. 

It may be disputed that these old edicts have fallen into disuse and 
are no longer applicable. At a celebration to commemorate the 
conquering of England by William Duke of Normandy in 1066 held at 
Caen, the Mayor of Bordeaux assured all those present that the town 
of Bordeaux had faithfully paid the levy on wine placed on the town 
throughout the whole period of 900 years. An attempt had been made 
to have the levy annulled but this could not be done since the Queen 
of England is still Duke of Normandy, and Count of Aquitaine. 

Israel Moses Sieff with his Political and Economic Planning (P.E.P.) 
tried to get rid of ancient territorial boundaries for the new 
county councils. Although the new county councils are in operation, 
all law officers functioning in Lancashire are appointed by the 
Duchy and County Palatine of Lancaster and not by the Lord Chancellor 
of Parliament. The courts are Duchy courts and all offences are 
against the Duke's peace. The County Palatine of the Duchy of 
Lancaster is outwith the jurisdiction of parliament under the wills 
of Henry II, Henry III and Henry IV, and certain acts of parliament 
are inapplicable within the Duchy. A similar position is found in 
the Principality and County Palatine of Durham. 

Being prohibited aliens by the Edict of Expulsion Jews have no right 
to sit in our houses of parliament, nor on our local government 
councils. They have no right to be in the judiciary nor to hold 
office in the executive of government nor in the police force. All 
purported laws and purported acts of parliament in which Jews have 
taken part in the voting are illegal, unconstitutional: null and void.

Contrary to the Statutes of Praemunire traitors we elect to 
parliament have allowed the Jews to establish an Imperium in Imperio,
the 'Board of Jewish Deputies,' which have gained to themselves
powers to influence the policies of British governments to their 
own universal advantage. The Daily Telegraph of 19th January 1972 
stated: "The Zionist Congress is the head of the world's political 
movement." World's Works - Inner Mountain Jewish News on 1st March 
1976 stated: 

?This world organization has a highly centralized form of government, 
this consists of an international committee including representatives 
>from all countries that have a local organization. But the real 
control is vested in what is known as the Inner Actions Council. 
This is a compact body of only seven men and it is dominated by 
the Jews of Europe.' 

MUSLIMS ATTEMPT TO SET UP ANOTHER IMPERIUM IN IMPERIO

It is the function of the Attorney General to advise governments and 
government departments (see Whitaker's Almanac). Succeeding Attorneys 
General have failed to advise governments of the implications of the 
contents of Magna Carta, the Petition of Rights, the Bill of Rights 
and Habeas Corpus. This is a dereliction of duty. Another attempt to 
establish an Imperium in Imperio by aliens, a felony of Praemunire, 
was reported in the Daily Telegraph of 15th July 1990. 

It was stated that the Muslim leader Kalim Siddiqui called for a 
special relationship between Muslims here and the government of Iran. 
He launched a manifesto to politicize Britain's Muslim community which
aimed to establish an Islamic parliament, to persuade Muslims to 
discriminate in favour of other Muslims, to place the names of all 
Muslims in Britain on a computer database and to raise five million 
pounds to establish a Muslim parliament in Britain. 

To do this is to commit the felony of Praemunire punishable with death
by hanging. The culprits are those subjects of the Crown who have 
allowed this situation to arise. It is up to the government to give 
all Muslims their marching orders out of this country or incur the 
penalties laid down for Praemunire, allowing aliens to establish an 
Imperium in Imperio. 

In bringing this matter to the attention of fellow subjects of the 
Crown I am under the Queen's protection for as Fitzherbert wrote 
(Vide 7 Co. 8, 9, Calvin's Case ANT 130a, Sect 199) "Every loyal 
subject is in the Queen's Protection." 

THE PURPORTED RACE RELATIONS ACTS

The so-called Race Relations Acts are conspiracies to use acts of 
parliament to enforce the racial integration of subjects of the 
Crown with Negroes and Asiatics especially brought here for the 
purpose. They are acts of racial hatred against us by prohibited 
immigrants. 
The Race Relations Act of 1965 was introduced to parliament by the 
Russian Jew Frank Soskice, purported Labour Attorney General. 
Further Race Relations Acts were devised by the Board of Jewish 
Deputies. The Jewish Chronicle stated that amendments must be made 
to the Race Relations Act since the 1965 Race Relations Act was 
not working the way they wanted it to. The 1976 Race Relations Act 
was passed in the Commons by default, with only 132 of the 635 
members present; 124 Labour and Liberal traitors voted for the 
bill with eight Tories against. 

To terrorize the masses it was required to establish a network of 
so-called human rights agencies, the 'Race Relations Industry.' 
Ivor Benson writes that: 

?the task was to penalize the instinctive responses of the local 
resident population in the presence of unassimilable neighbours 
who have been forced upon them... Hereto there are rich pickings 
for decadent, deracinated elements who help to impose the tyranny, 
like human dregs who rule the roost and spend millions of the 
tax-payers' money in Britain's innumerable inner-city ghettoes. 
Nor should we omit to mention the zealous active connivance of 
politicians and bureaucrats whose greed for personal advancement 
is rationalized with a spurious humanistic ideology.? 
There are three phases in this Jewish imposition of race mixing: 

Phase One: Unassimilable population elements are introduced into 
all-White communities of the West as legitimate immigrants, 
supposedly because their labour was needed. 

Phase Two: Public opposition is circumvented by introducing them 
as refugees. 

Phase Three: Which came into effect right from the start, is a 
massive and sustained campaign of mental terrorism aimed at 
suppressing every form of popular dissent and opposition. The 
campaign of terrorism has taken two forms, one aimed at the 
leadership and the other at the masses. Any political leader 
who dares to give voice to what his own people think and feel 
is at once made the target by the Jews by an orchestrated 
campaign of vilification with Jewish-devised swear words  "Nazi,"
"Fascist," "racialist," "racist" while support
in money and publicity is diverted to political rivals and 
opponents. The masses are terrorized by Jewish-led Socialist 
Workers Party mobs who are quite prepared to use violence when 
necessary. 

Poster's note: Doesn't this sound very familiar?

IMMIGRATION

The massive immigration of Islamics and other coloured peoples is 
illegal and the British people, subjects of the Crown, were never 
consulted about whether they wanted their country to become a multi-
racial, multi-cultural society. Mrs Margaret Thatcher deceived the 
nation in 1979 when she declared that Britain was becoming swamped 
with immigrants, using the fears of the subjects of the Crown to 
gain votes and giving the impression that she would stem the flow. 
Having got her party into government she did nothing about it, only 
allowed vast numbers more into the country. Multi-racialism and 
multi-culturalism has been illegally and unconstitutionally imposed 
on this nation and the Jewish power controlling the government will 
ensure that the nation will never be consulted. 

THE PURPORTED PUBLIC ORDER ACT OF 1986

The so-called Public Order Act of 1986 is a conspiracy to use an act 
of parliament to enable investigators to enter the homes of subjects 
of the Crown to gain evidence to initiate action in the law courts 
against those offending against the purported Race Relations Act. 
This Act was placed before parliament by the purported Conservative 
Home Secretary, the prohibited Jewish immigrant from Lithuania, 
Leon Brittanisky, also known as Leon Brittan, assisted by his cousin, 
another Lithuanian Jew, Malcolm Rivkind, also know as Malcolm Rifkind.
This bill was primarily to prevent subjects of the Crown from 
discussing and revealing the Jewish take-over of our nation. 

THE PURPORTED NATIONALITY ACT
The so-called Nationality Act is a conspiracy to use an act of 
parliament to take away our rights as subjects of the Crown. This 
act makes the place of birth rather than the genetic and racial 
identity of the individual the criteria for nationality. Britons 
>from Australia and Canada visiting the continent from Britain were 
surprised on their return to be presented with documents to sign 
marked "Alien" while Pakistanis and other Asians passed through 
with British passports as British nationals. 

This Act purports to replace ancestry, that for generations has been 
the practical definition of the British subject, by the definition 
of an accidental place of birth. Thus it seeks to encourage the 
development of a nation of half-breeds and to swamp and destroy 
the British people and their customs. 

In The Common Law of England, 198. N2, Sir Edward Coke states: 

?Persons born beyond the seas, if their fathers or paternal grand-
fathers were natural born subjects, are likewise made so, though 
with an exception of some unfavourable persons.... Liegeus is ever 
taken for a natural born subject... Liegeance, a liegando, being 
the highest and greatest obligation of duty and obedience that can 
be. Liegance is the true and faithful obedience of a liegman or 
subject to his liege lord or sovereign. Alliegeance is born of 
faith: alliegeance is the essential law.' 

Until William Whitelaw's Nationality Act we have been subjects of 
the Crown and under the protection of the Crown. This Act purports 
to deprive us of this and make us merely British citizens. This Act 
together with the European Communities Act and the Treaty of Rome 
aims at destroying the British Monarchy as soon as possible. 
It is High Treason. 

By signing the United Nations Charter in 1946 and passing an act 
before parliament so-called British politicians were obliged to 
carry out the terms of the Charter. This entails the mixing of the 
races of the world to form a degraded population and the eradication 
of the British and other White races. These the planners regard, 
together with Christianity, as the main obstacles to the 
establishment of a totalitarian one-world government. 

The United Nations Charter was drafted by Alger Hiss, a convicted 
communist and Soviet agent together with Andrei Gromyko, a senior 
Soviet official. Alger Hiss occupied the directional chair at the
organizational conference of the United Nations. These people are
aiming at genocide of the White race. 

According to this Nationality Act the Queen is no longer our Queen 
and we are no longer her subjects. If we are no longer the subjects 
of the Crown this Act deprives us of the protection of the Crown, 
for according to the patent rolls of the Statute of Northampton 1328 
it is the duty of the Queen to protect her subjects despite 
parliament; thus we are protected from a possible anti-White 
anti-British parliament. This Act purports to deprive the Queen 
of her titles, lands and prerogatives. We no longer go to war for 
the Crown but for parliament. This is High Treason. 

A letter from the Home Secretary dated 31st May 1988, which appeared 
in the Independent newspaper on Monday 17th June 1988, made it plain 
that Her Majesty the Queen is prepared to place at the disposal of 
parliament all her remaining prerogatives: the power to make war or 
peace, to ratify treaties, to grant honours; the list is formidable 
embracing just about all those powers which remained to the monarch 
after the glorious revolution of 1688. 

The signature at the bottom of the letter is that of Douglas Hurd. 
The person who drew the Home Secretary into weighty correspondence 
is the cryptic left-winger, Tony Benn. Benn laid before parliament 
his Crown Prerogatives Bill to deprive the Crown of all the 
remainder of her prerogatives. 

THE PURPORTED EUROPEAN COMMUNITIES ACT

The European Communities Act of 1972 and the Treaty of Rome aims
at destroying the British monarchy as soon as possible. 

This is High Treason the penalty for which is death by hanging and 
this is still on the statute books. Likewise any subject of the Crown 
who knows that High Treason is being carried on and fails to report 
it is guilty of Misprision of High Treason, the penalty may be death: 
to deprive the Queen of her Crown or any of her dominions. 

Article 189 of the Treaty of Rome is irreconcilable with the Oath 
of Allegiance. There is an absolute constitutional case that there 
is no statute authority for the executive acts that have bound the 
UK to the EEC, nor for the British Nationality Act. Both are 
contrary to the interests of the Crown and people. 

The High Court of Great Britain disallowed an Act which was passed 
by our House of Commons and House of Lords and received the Royal 
Assent. This Act was the Shipping Act of 1988. The High Court 
referred the case to the European Court. This was the first case 
in the history of parliament that an Act passed by both houses of 
parliament with the Royal Assent and the regulations under it have 
been set aside. A British Court has interfered with an act of 
parliament in the interests of a foreign court. This is High Treason. 

We can claim that the Queen carry out her coronation oath and 
protect us from alien and foreign-made laws. 

We are legally not in the Common Market nor are we constitutionally 
a multi-racial multi-cultural society. Traitor Edward Heath carried 
out the plans of international Jewish financiers and multinational 
companies, the Imperial Institute for International Affairs and the 
Rothschilds to deceive the Queen in her grants. Many of us have 
taken the Oath of Allegiance to the Crown, her heirs and successors 
and demand protection from foreign-made laws made by aliens in Europe.

The Oath of Allegiance has been taken by members of parliament, 
Queen's Councillors, members of the Judiciary, clergy of the 
Church of England and members of the executive yet many of them 
are working for our enemies, for a slave-state full of debt which 
our children will inherit. A charge of perjury of the Oath of 
Allegiance and High Treason must be laid against all those culprits 
who have allowed our government to be over-ruled by directives 
coming from beyond the seas - from foreigners in Brussels and 
Strasbourg. 

Any attempt to take Scotland and England into the EEC is High Treason:
"Depriving the Queen of her lands and titles." All
purported MEP's are qualified for hanging. The basic statutes 
of the United Kingdom are still in force and are in conflict 
with growing foreign supremacy. 

The full sovereignty of the United Kingdom is not now in the hands 
of the Queen; her powers have been handed over by a despicable 
traitor Edward Heath on the instructions of his Jewish mentors. 
Edicts and laws can be sent out from Brussels and Strasbourg which 
are enforced by traitors in the United Kingdom. European Law and 
Community Law is now destroying the respective laws and customs 
of the British realm and the very birthright of the British people. 
 
High Treason: Laws Against Establishing a Foreign Power in England 
is published by the Heretical Press, ISBN 1-901240-15-0, 14pp.  

Author Note: Kenneth Roderick McKilliam (circa 1915 - 1993) was 
educated in Sydney, Australia and in 1934 went to the University 
of Queensland. Two years later he attended London University where 
he obtained an honours degree in psychology and sociology. As a 
volunteer soldier he saw service in the Somalian Military 
Administration and was later attached to the East African 
command H.Q. After the war he spent sixteen years in Africa as 
an Educational and Community Development Officer. 

He was active in church and social work and was a licensed reader 
in the diocesees of Mombasa Namirembe, Upper Nile, and Canterbury. 
He made extensive study tours of Asia, Africa and Australia. 
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If it walks like a duck..........

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org



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