Path: hub.org!hub.org!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.abs.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.sfba.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Mark Van Alstine) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.german,alt.politics.nationalism.white Subject: Re: Holocau$t Evidence is Abundant Message-ID:
References: <37716891.706AD35B@mediaone.net> <3772B03E.1A7EAD3D@auswitz.de> Organization: http://www.holocaust-history.org X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4.4 Lines: 71 Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 18:33:13 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 18.104.22.168 X-Complaints-To: email@example.com X-Trace: news.rdc1.sfba.home.com 930421993 22.214.171.124 (Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:33:13 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:33:13 PDT Xref: hub.org alt.politics.white-power:372886 alt.revisionism:516895 soc.culture.german:133455 alt.politics.nationalism.white:358435 In article , "$$Mighty $White $Power $Ranger" <$$$$$$$$@$$$$$$$$$.$$$$$$> wrote: > Orac wrote in message > news:Orac_USAfirstname.lastname@example.org... > > > "On January 23, 1949, the Sunday Pictorial published, under the headline > 'Americans Torture Germans to Extort 'Confessions,'' What it called "An > ugly story of barbarous tortures inflicted in the name of allied justice," > taken from the report of the American Judge Edward L. Van Roden, who had > investigated allegations to this effect as a member of an official > Commission of Enquiry. The Judge foun that German prisoners were subjected > to various forms of maltreatments till, as the Pictorial said, "Strong men > were reduced to broken wrecks ready to mumble any admission demanded by > their prosecutors."" > > Page 191 - Unconditional Hatred, By Captian Russell GrenFell, R.N. According to a NYT article, dated March 2, 1949, Van Roden's criticized solitary confinement and mock trials but didn't mention any systematic brutality. Instead, "Judge Van Roden said his reviewing agency had found no general conspiracy to obtain evidence improperly." A March 5 NYT article said, in regard to one of the review board's findings, that: "Physical force was not systematically applied to obtain statements, but undoubtedly in the heat of the moment on occasions the interrogators did use some physical force on a recalcitrant suspect." Moreoever, according to Bower, Van Roden's allegations "were shattered when it was proven that his informant Friedrich Ebble, who had claimed to have been scarred by the interrogators when they inserted burning matches under his fingernails, had no scars whatsoever. Ebble, who had a criminal record, was medically declared to be mentally disturbed. Van Roden publically admitted his mistakes..." (Cf. Bower, _Blind Eye To Murder_, pp.326-327.) > On the same page it talks about smashing testicals, beating of hooded German > Prisoners. The Simpson Commission investigated the allegations. The investigation included medical records and examinations by physicians. The unanimous opinion of the Simpson Commission was that there was no evidence that the allegations of torture (i.e. knocking out of teeth, breaking, jaws, kicking testicles, etc.) were correct. Later, Joe McCarthy carried out a Congressional inquiry into the allegations. McCarthy, hardly a friend of the Army, and did his best to "prove" the allegations. He failed. The Committee's conclusion was also that no torture took place. General Clay's Army investigation likewise concluded that no torture took place. See also: http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/g/giwer.matt/lies/lie-interrogation-methods Hmmm. Three investigations. All three three concluded that no torture took place. > Of course, it's a biased source because it doesn't babble the holy writ of > holocaustamania. Ah, another Believer in crackpot denier dogma. Fancy that. Mark -- "Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties--but right through every human heart--and all human hearts." -- Alexander Solzhenitsyn, "The Gulag Archipelago"
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