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You are right Zulu! I don't think Nazis just throw people in a train and 
transport them to camps. They had to be accounted for.
What if some one escapes or die etc....?
When the Russian transported Axis POW's to Soviet labor camps ( my 
father was there), every time they had a chance prisoners had to line up 
in front of train and they they were counted. All most every day!
One time,  few man escaped by forcing the bottom planks of the wagon 
open and jumped off the moving train.
At the next counting, Soviet officers noticed it and all prisoners had 
to line up again in front of the train.
Soviet officer asked, those who knew about the escape to step forward.
No one did! Of course they would shoot them not reporting it.
Than the Soviet officer walking behind the line, shot every tenth 
prisoners for punishment.
That's what war is, but we only here about Jewish lies to make money.
JS



ZULU wrote:
> Sara Salzman wrote:
>> In article , ZULU  wrote:
>>  
>>> On Apr 29, 6:12 am, "Kurt Knoll"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Interesting McVay. The Germans were short on manpower and supply. 
>>>> And jet
>>>> they did spent all that time transporting Jew to have them gassed or 
>>>> killed
>>>> on arrival. The only explanation for this we have is coming from you
>>>> holohoaxers. And jet your reputation is know worldwide for more than 
>>>> 2000
>>>> years.
>>>> Kurt Knoll.
>>>
>>> You make me think in an other interesting question.
>>>
>>> We know that the people arrived at Auschwitz because the nazis 
>>> registered them before entering the trains which were sent to that 
>>> destination.
>>  
>> No they weren't, "Zulu."
> 
> Please, Sara, do think a little before sending idiotic remarks.
> 
> I mean there were registered at least BEFORE ENTERING THE TRAIN which 
> brought
> them to Auschwitz.
> 
> That is the case of Simone Veil as well as her mother and sister. There 
> were
> first sent to Drancy (France) and registered there before entering the 
> train to
> Auschwitz on April 13th 1944.
> 
> At that camp they weren't registered on their arrival on April 16th, 1944.
> 
> Read the book presented as being the Death book of all jews deported to
> the camps from France : "Le mémorial de la déportation des juifs de
> France" written by Me Serge Klarsfeld, edited by Beate et Serge
> Klarsfeld in 1978 in Paris.
> On the page 519 of that book, you discover in the left column the
> name of Simone Jacob, born on July, 13th 1927 in Nice. This young girl
> takes part of a convoy  of 1500 jews, men and women,  which left Drancy
> on April 13th 1944.
> 
> To know what happened officially to this convoy, you have to report you
> to the "Notebooks of Auschwitz". Those Notebooks were redacted by the
> authorities of the State's Museum of Oswiencim, Poland.
> 
> For the jews of France, those authorities worked with the CDJC of Paris 
> (Centre
> de documentation juive contemporaine, whose principal scientific
> responsible  is the Professeur Georges Wellers); This is the same CDJC
> which assumes - according to Me Klarsfeld - the main responsibility on
> holding the history of the convoys and the general counting about the
> deportation of the French jews.
> 
> The Notebook # 7, made public on 1964 mentions on the page 88 of the
> German edition that such convoy arrived at Auschwitz on April 16, 1944.
> You can read exactly:
> "Transport (Central Office of Reich Security) from Drancy's camp, 1500
> jews. After the selection, 165 men were remitted to the camp as
> inmates, they received the numbers 184.097 - 184.261. The others were
> gassed.
> 
> Hence, the young Simone, her mother and sister were gassed. If you refer 
> to what
> the historians wrote about the gassing operation, it is possible that 
> Simone
> Jacob was gassed the same day upon her arrival, that is on April 16, 1944,
> precisely at Auschwitz-Birkenau.
> 
> The right story tells that until July the family worked at the camp, 
> then sent
> to a sub-camp of the zone.
> 
> On January 18, 1945 they left the camp with the SS on a forced march toward
> Gleiwitz where they stayed 2 days.
> 
>  From that place they were sent by train to Bergen Belsen til the 
> liberation of
> that camp on April 15th, 1945.
> 
> http://www.un.org/holocaustremembrance/2007/statements/veil.shtml
> 
>> the only people registered were the ones the Nazis were NOT going to 
>> kill, but were going to work to death.
>>
>> Those going straight to the gas chamber were NOT registered.
> 
> How could we know that those people were sent to Auschwitz if we had not
> registers before entering the trains?
> 
> I repeat my question: why the nazis registered people that they sent to 
> their
> extermination without "any trace"?
> 
>> So the rest of your post is moot, since you had no idea what you were 
>> talking about. 
> 
> I can do better Sara, logic is something which can be shared by all 
> people with
> common sense.
> 
> AGAIN, the affirmation that ALL people not registered on their arrival at
> Auschwitz were "gassed" is FALSE.
> 
> How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg?  Four.
> Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg.
> 
> ~Abraham Lincoln
> 
>>> Why did they registered them if the intention was to kill them 
>>> "without any traces right on arrival"?
>>>
>>> Some big "mistake" in their extraordinary "secret extermination plan"?
>>>
>>> In fact, many people who weren't registered on arrival and thus, are 
>>> considered "gassed upon arrival" at Auschwitz are alive today.
>>>
>>> In France we have a good example of such case.
>>> Simone Veil (born Jacob), a French European Deputy that also served 
>>> as President of the European Parliament, was listed as gassed on 
>>> April 16, 1944 on the book presented as being the Death book of all 
>>> jews deported to the camps from France : "Le mémorial de la 
>>> déportation des juifs de France" written by Me Serge Klarsfeld, 
>>> edited by Beate et Serge Klarsfeld in 1978 in Paris.
>>>
>>> Simone Veil was sent to Bergen Belsen with his sister and both were 
>>> alive when the Brits liberated the camp.
>>>
>>> Pr. Robert Faurisson detected the case of Simone Veil like many 
>>> others and wrote to Klarsfeld in order to fix that "little problem" 
>>> of accuracy on his list.
>>>
>>> Simone Veil is one of the most famous case but there are many other.
>>>
>>> To be noticed her wrong biography on Wikipedia which tells that 
>>> Simone Veil was at Auschwitz when it was liberated.
>>>
>>> << Entretien avec Mme Simone Veil (ancien ministre, présidente de la 
>>> Fondation pour la Mémoire de la Shoah)
>>>
>>> En avril 1945, Simone Veil et sa soeur sont libérées à Bergen-Belsen. 
>>> Elles retrouvent la liberté, la France... Et aussi l'incompréhension 
>>> d'un pays indifférent au drame des juifs>>
>>>
>>> .../
>>>
>>> << Interview with Mrs. Simone Veil (former minister, president of the 
>>> Foundation for the Memory of the Shoah.
>>>
>>> On April 1945, Simone Veil and her sister were liberated at Bergen 
>>> Belsen. They
>>> regain their freedom, France...And also And also the incomprehension 
>>> of a country indifferent to the drama of the Jews.>>
>>>
>>> (Nouvel Observateur semaine du 13 au 19 janvier2005)
>>>
>>> All the article in French
>>> http://patrickantoine69.blogs.com/chocolat_ou_caf/2005/01/entretien_avec_.html 
>>>
>>>
>>> The affirmation that ALL people not registered on their arrival at 
>>> Auschwitz were "gassed" is FALSE.
>>>
>>> In fact,like Simone and her sister they were sent to another camp.
>>
>>
> 
> 


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Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
> In article <0eKdnfYVmL6f76rbnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> Protagonist   wrote:
>> You are right Zulu! I don't think Nazis just throw people in a train and 
>> transport them to camps. They had to be accounted for.
> 
> Leading Revisionist Scholar "Zulu" is confusing apples with oranges. The fact that the
> Nazis maintained transport lists has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that those
> who arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau who were deemed unfit for work were not registered
> IN THE AUSCHWITZ-BIRKENAU register - they were simply murdered on arrival.
> 

Lot of crap, lying Zionist McVay! Those who were not registered were 
taken to other camps. Third Reich  needed workers not dead.
I've seen pictures of barracks full of old woman in Auschwitz.
That's your stupid Holohoax theory, to prove the 6 millions death.
When my wife's father were taken forcefully to Soviet labor camp as an 
Axis POW, they were throwing bottles out of the train with written 
massages inside, hope fully some one finds it and sends it to relatives.
How come you Jewskies never did that, leave massages all over?
Germans were only hard on inmates, who were against the Third Reich, 
like partizan's, saboteurs etc...  others had a good life in the camps.
Better than outside, no food, cities being bombed, woman raped!
JS






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Richard Warren wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
> news:u-WdnamGv9O2WKrbnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>> In article <0eKdnfYVmL6f76rbnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>>> Protagonist   wrote:
>>>> You are right Zulu! I don't think Nazis just throw people in a train and 
>>>> transport them to camps. They had to be accounted for.
>>> Leading Revisionist Scholar "Zulu" is confusing apples with oranges. The 
>>> fact that the
>>> Nazis maintained transport lists has nothing whatsoever to do with the 
>>> fact that those
>>> who arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau who were deemed unfit for work were not 
>>> registered
>>> IN THE AUSCHWITZ-BIRKENAU register - they were simply murdered on 
>>> arrival.
>>>
>> Lot of crap, lying Zionist McVay! Those who were not registered were taken 
>> to other camps. Third Reich  needed workers not dead.
>> I've seen pictures of barracks full of old woman in Auschwitz.
>> That's your stupid Holohoax theory, to prove the 6 millions death.
>> When my wife's father were taken forcefully to Soviet labor camp as an 
>> Axis POW, they were throwing bottles out of the train with written 
>> massages inside, hope fully some one finds it and sends it to relatives.
>> How come you Jewskies never did that, leave massages all over?
>> Germans were only hard on inmates, who were against the Third Reich, like 
>> partizan's, saboteurs etc...  others had a good life in the camps.
>> Better than outside, no food, cities being bombed, woman raped!
>> JS
>>
> 
> 
> So your daddy fought for the Axis, eh?  Why am I not surprised?  It's true 
> that the acorn never falls far from the tree, Nazi turd.
>>
>>
> 
> 

That's right Dumb and Dumber!
They had a cause to fight for.
WW2 wasn't about the Jews as you Zionist painting it to world.
It was about Europe, for Europeans.
We don't need Zionist, Soviets, Brits or Yanks telling us what to do!
JS




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Ken McVay wrote:
> [Follow-ups set]
> 
> 1943
> ----
> 
> The Federal Council of Churches, a Protestant interdenominational 
> organization in the United States, sponsors a nationwide "Day of Compassion" 
> on behalf of Europe's Jews. (USHMM 1943, 32)
> 
> 
> 1944
> ----
> 
> Thirteen thousand Jews are placed in a ghetto in Mikolc, Hungary. (USHMM 
> 1994, 40)
> 
> The first Greek and Albanian prisoners arrive at Gusen concentration camp. (Ibid.)
> 
> 
>                          Work Cited
>                               
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
> Years Ago: Darkness Before Dawn: Days of Remembrance, April
> 3-10, 1994. Washington, D.C.: 1994

That's Miskolc and not Mikolc!
...and STOP lying, Zionist McVay!
JS


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Richard Warren wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
> news:WNudnborUpadcarbnZ2dnUVZ_qSrnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Richard Warren wrote:
>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>>> news:u-WdnamGv9O2WKrbnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>>>> In article <0eKdnfYVmL6f76rbnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>>>>> Protagonist   wrote:
>>>>>> You are right Zulu! I don't think Nazis just throw people in a train 
>>>>>> and transport them to camps. They had to be accounted for.
>>>>> Leading Revisionist Scholar "Zulu" is confusing apples with oranges. 
>>>>> The fact that the
>>>>> Nazis maintained transport lists has nothing whatsoever to do with the 
>>>>> fact that those
>>>>> who arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau who were deemed unfit for work were 
>>>>> not registered
>>>>> IN THE AUSCHWITZ-BIRKENAU register - they were simply murdered on 
>>>>> arrival.
>>>>>
>>>> Lot of crap, lying Zionist McVay! Those who were not registered were 
>>>> taken to other camps. Third Reich  needed workers not dead.
>>>> I've seen pictures of barracks full of old woman in Auschwitz.
>>>> That's your stupid Holohoax theory, to prove the 6 millions death.
>>>> When my wife's father were taken forcefully to Soviet labor camp as an 
>>>> Axis POW, they were throwing bottles out of the train with written 
>>>> massages inside, hope fully some one finds it and sends it to relatives.
>>>> How come you Jewskies never did that, leave massages all over?
>>>> Germans were only hard on inmates, who were against the Third Reich, 
>>>> like partizan's, saboteurs etc...  others had a good life in the camps.
>>>> Better than outside, no food, cities being bombed, woman raped!
>>>> JS
>>>>
>>>
>>> So your daddy fought for the Axis, eh?  Why am I not surprised?  It's 
>>> true that the acorn never falls far from the tree, Nazi turd.
>>>>
>>>
>> That's right Dumb and Dumber!
>> They had a cause to fight for.
>> WW2 wasn't about the Jews as you Zionist painting it to world.
>> It was about Europe, for Europeans.
>> We don't need Zionist, Soviets, Brits or Yanks telling us what to do!
>> JS
> 
> 
> 
> Then why are you in the U.S., Nazi turd?  We certainly don't want Nazis like 
> you here. 
> 
> 

I didn't come here to take over this country, like you fuckers do it!
I wouldn't be here for sure, if Europe were not over ran by the Jew 
Communist!
JS



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Richard Warren wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
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>> Richard Warren wrote:
>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>>> news:WNudnborUpadcarbnZ2dnUVZ_qSrnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Richard Warren wrote:
>>>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:u-WdnamGv9O2WKrbnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>> Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <0eKdnfYVmL6f76rbnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>>>>>>> Protagonist   wrote:
>>>>>>>> You are right Zulu! I don't think Nazis just throw people in a train 
>>>>>>>> and transport them to camps. They had to be accounted for.
>>>>>>> Leading Revisionist Scholar "Zulu" is confusing apples with oranges. 
>>>>>>> The fact that the
>>>>>>> Nazis maintained transport lists has nothing whatsoever to do with 
>>>>>>> the fact that those
>>>>>>> who arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau who were deemed unfit for work were 
>>>>>>> not registered
>>>>>>> IN THE AUSCHWITZ-BIRKENAU register - they were simply murdered on 
>>>>>>> arrival.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lot of crap, lying Zionist McVay! Those who were not registered were 
>>>>>> taken to other camps. Third Reich  needed workers not dead.
>>>>>> I've seen pictures of barracks full of old woman in Auschwitz.
>>>>>> That's your stupid Holohoax theory, to prove the 6 millions death.
>>>>>> When my wife's father were taken forcefully to Soviet labor camp as an 
>>>>>> Axis POW, they were throwing bottles out of the train with written 
>>>>>> massages inside, hope fully some one finds it and sends it to 
>>>>>> relatives.
>>>>>> How come you Jewskies never did that, leave massages all over?
>>>>>> Germans were only hard on inmates, who were against the Third Reich, 
>>>>>> like partizan's, saboteurs etc...  others had a good life in the 
>>>>>> camps.
>>>>>> Better than outside, no food, cities being bombed, woman raped!
>>>>>> JS
>>>>>>
>>>>> So your daddy fought for the Axis, eh?  Why am I not surprised?  It's 
>>>>> true that the acorn never falls far from the tree, Nazi turd.
>>>> That's right Dumb and Dumber!
>>>> They had a cause to fight for.
>>>> WW2 wasn't about the Jews as you Zionist painting it to world.
>>>> It was about Europe, for Europeans.
>>>> We don't need Zionist, Soviets, Brits or Yanks telling us what to do!
>>>> JS
>>>
>>>
>>> Then why are you in the U.S., Nazi turd?  We certainly don't want Nazis 
>>> like you here.
>> I didn't come here to take over this country, like you fuckers do it!
>> I wouldn't be here for sure, if Europe were not over ran by the Jew 
>> Communist!
>> JS
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I bet you left Europe on the Ratline, Nazi turd. 
> 
> 

Problem is, you don't think at all, Zionist shit brain!
JS



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Richard Warren wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
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>> Richard Warren wrote:
>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
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>>>> Richard Warren wrote:
>>>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:WNudnborUpadcarbnZ2dnUVZ_qSrnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>> Richard Warren wrote:
>>>>>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>> news:u-WdnamGv9O2WKrbnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>> Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <0eKdnfYVmL6f76rbnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>>>>>>>>> Protagonist   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> You are right Zulu! I don't think Nazis just throw people in a 
>>>>>>>>>> train and transport them to camps. They had to be accounted for.
>>>>>>>>> Leading Revisionist Scholar "Zulu" is confusing apples with 
>>>>>>>>> oranges. The fact that the
>>>>>>>>> Nazis maintained transport lists has nothing whatsoever to do with 
>>>>>>>>> the fact that those
>>>>>>>>> who arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau who were deemed unfit for work 
>>>>>>>>> were not registered
>>>>>>>>> IN THE AUSCHWITZ-BIRKENAU register - they were simply murdered on 
>>>>>>>>> arrival.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lot of crap, lying Zionist McVay! Those who were not registered were 
>>>>>>>> taken to other camps. Third Reich  needed workers not dead.
>>>>>>>> I've seen pictures of barracks full of old woman in Auschwitz.
>>>>>>>> That's your stupid Holohoax theory, to prove the 6 millions death.
>>>>>>>> When my wife's father were taken forcefully to Soviet labor camp as 
>>>>>>>> an Axis POW, they were throwing bottles out of the train with 
>>>>>>>> written massages inside, hope fully some one finds it and sends it 
>>>>>>>> to relatives.
>>>>>>>> How come you Jewskies never did that, leave massages all over?
>>>>>>>> Germans were only hard on inmates, who were against the Third Reich, 
>>>>>>>> like partizan's, saboteurs etc...  others had a good life in the 
>>>>>>>> camps.
>>>>>>>> Better than outside, no food, cities being bombed, woman raped!
>>>>>>>> JS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So your daddy fought for the Axis, eh?  Why am I not surprised?  It's 
>>>>>>> true that the acorn never falls far from the tree, Nazi turd.
>>>>>> That's right Dumb and Dumber!
>>>>>> They had a cause to fight for.
>>>>>> WW2 wasn't about the Jews as you Zionist painting it to world.
>>>>>> It was about Europe, for Europeans.
>>>>>> We don't need Zionist, Soviets, Brits or Yanks telling us what to do!
>>>>>> JS
>>>>>
>>>>> Then why are you in the U.S., Nazi turd?  We certainly don't want Nazis 
>>>>> like you here.
>>>> I didn't come here to take over this country, like you fuckers do it!
>>>> I wouldn't be here for sure, if Europe were not over ran by the Jew 
>>>> Communist!
>>>> JS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I bet you left Europe on the Ratline, Nazi turd.
>> Problem is, you don't think at all, Zionist shit brain!
>> JS
>>
> 
> 
> What would a Nazi turd know about thinking.  Nazis don't think about 
> anything except killing people.  Just like you, turd. 
> 
> 

Ja,ja! Get lost moron, Zionist Jew! You caused all the wars and pain of 
the world. You are bunch of gangsters and money laundering thiefs.
JS


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Yawn!!!!
Zionist propaganda, as all ways!
JS

Ken McVay wrote:
> [Follow-ups set]
> 
> 
> 1943
> ----
> 
> The Vatican Secretary of State reminds the
> Apostolic Delegate in London that the Church opposes a
> Jewish homeland in Palestine since it was the birthplace
> of Jesus and therefore sacred to Catholics. (USHMM 1993, 32)
> 
> 1944
> ----
> 
> German plans call for the deportation of three thousand Hungarian 
> Jews to Auschwitz daily, beginning May 15. A secret transportation conference is 
> convened in Vienna, involving German railroad officials, the SS, and the Hungarian 
> gendarmerie, to determine the route for deportation trains to Auschwitz. The route 
> via Lvov is judged unsuitable for military reasons. The route via Budapest-Vienna 
> is discussed, and it is decided that this route will probably evoke negative 
> reactions from the population of Budapest, while the German representative in 
> Slovakia argues against the route for political reasons. The conference, 
> nevertheless, decides on the route via Slovakia.  (USHMM 1994, 40-41)
> 
> 
> 
>                        Work Cited
>                             
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
> Years Ago: Revolt Amid the Darkness: Days of Remembrance,
> April 18-25, 1993. Washington, D.C.: 1993
>                               
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
> Years Ago: Darkness Before Dawn: Days of Remembrance, April
> 3-10, 1994. Washington, D.C.: 1994


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RJ wrote:
> In article <1178295678.950509.5580@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
> hoaxbuster@earthlink.net  wrote:
> 
>> Judea Declares War on Germany!"
>> - Daily Express headline, March 24, 1933.
> 
>    There is no such thing as "Judea".  A few Jewish groups
> called to boycott German goods.  It probably had something
> to do with Germany electing a leader who,  as early as 1925,
> referred to Jews as "vermin" and stated that Jews should
> have been killed with poison gas during WW1.

He was right! But, most likely you taking it out of context like any 
thing else in the past!
> 
>    Many Muslims recently called to boycott Danish goods.  Is
> this equivalent to a "war" against Denmark?  If so,  then --
> according to your line of argument -- should Denmark be
> allowed to exterminate its Muslim citizens,  as well as the
> Muslim citizens of neighboring countries?

Hitler never exterminated the Jews, as your kind claim it, the  6 
million propaganda!
Jews were put in labor camps, plan was later to re-settle them!
JS

> 
> RJ.


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More McVay Zionist lies!
McVay! Do you have a script program that automatically generates this 
crap every night from your Nizkor Zionist propaganda website?
I bet you do!
JS



Ken McVay wrote:
> [Follow-ups set]
> 
> 1943
> ----
> 
> The Vatican sends a formal note to the
> Slovak government, protesting plans to resume the
> deportation of Jews, stating that such action would
> "strike so gravely at the natural rights of man." (USHMM 1993, 32)
> 
> With Himmler visiting Zagreb, German authorities join
> with the Croatians in rounding up Jews for deportation.
> Trains leave for Auschwitz on May 5 and May 10 with a
> total of 1,150 Jews. (USHMM 1993, 33)
> 
> 
> 1944
> ----
> 
> A census of the Jews of Budapest is ordered.  (USHMM 1994, 41)
> 
> SS Gruppenfuehrer (Major General) Richard Gluecks, Inspector
> of the Concentration Camps and chief of Office D in the SS
> Central Office for Economy and Administration (WVHA)
> suggests that Jews be used as subjects for sea-water
> experiments. SS Gruppenfuehrer Arthur Nebe, chief of Office
> V (Reichskriminalpolizeiamt, or German detective forces) of
> the Central Office for Reich Security, suggests that Gypsies
> from Auschwitz be used instead. Himmler sides with Nebe, and
> the Gypsies are used. (Ibid.)
> 
> The resistance movement at Auschwitz I reports to the Cracow
> resistance committee for concertration camp prisoners that
> the Germans are obliterating traces of their killing
> operations at Auschwitz. Thus, the old crematorium at
> Auschwitz I is converted into an air-raid shelter; also, the
> execution wall at Block 11 is torn down, and the adjacent
> soil, saturated with blood, is trucked away. (Ibid.)
> 
> 
>                        Work Cited
> 
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
> Years Ago: Revolt Amid the Darkness: Days of Remembrance,
> April 18-25, 1993. Washington, D.C.: 1993
>                               
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
> Years Ago: Darkness Before Dawn: Days of Remembrance, April
> 3-10, 1994. Washington, D.C.: 1994


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Just looking it the date of your  Holocaust Calendar posts, it's all 
ways at 9:05 PM , exactly.
Hahaha!
JS



Ken McVay wrote:
> [Follow-ups set]
> 
> 1943
> ----
> 
> The Vatican sends a formal note to the
> Slovak government, protesting plans to resume the
> deportation of Jews, stating that such action would
> "strike so gravely at the natural rights of man." (USHMM 1993, 32)
> 
> With Himmler visiting Zagreb, German authorities join
> with the Croatians in rounding up Jews for deportation.
> Trains leave for Auschwitz on May 5 and May 10 with a
> total of 1,150 Jews. (USHMM 1993, 33)
> 
> 
> 1944
> ----
> 
> A census of the Jews of Budapest is ordered.  (USHMM 1994, 41)
> 
> SS Gruppenfuehrer (Major General) Richard Gluecks, Inspector
> of the Concentration Camps and chief of Office D in the SS
> Central Office for Economy and Administration (WVHA)
> suggests that Jews be used as subjects for sea-water
> experiments. SS Gruppenfuehrer Arthur Nebe, chief of Office
> V (Reichskriminalpolizeiamt, or German detective forces) of
> the Central Office for Reich Security, suggests that Gypsies
> from Auschwitz be used instead. Himmler sides with Nebe, and
> the Gypsies are used. (Ibid.)
> 
> The resistance movement at Auschwitz I reports to the Cracow
> resistance committee for concertration camp prisoners that
> the Germans are obliterating traces of their killing
> operations at Auschwitz. Thus, the old crematorium at
> Auschwitz I is converted into an air-raid shelter; also, the
> execution wall at Block 11 is torn down, and the adjacent
> soil, saturated with blood, is trucked away. (Ibid.)
> 
> 
>                        Work Cited
> 
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
> Years Ago: Revolt Amid the Darkness: Days of Remembrance,
> April 18-25, 1993. Washington, D.C.: 1993
>                               
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
> Years Ago: Darkness Before Dawn: Days of Remembrance, April
> 3-10, 1994. Washington, D.C.: 1994


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Kurt Knoll wrote:
> McVay makes money selling the holocaust.The only thing I would say no one 
> ever gets to see  or verify all these documents except the chosen once 
> meaning the Jews who have control over it.
> 
> Kurt Knoll.

Yes! But if you post some eveidence, they want exactly where your info 
came from!
Jews just copy/paste from any Zionist sources and we all suppose to take 
it as hard evidence!
Hahaha!
JS

> 
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
> news:vOGdnQ2Klci99KHbnZ2dnUVZ_qPinZ2d@comcast.com...
>> More McVay Zionist lies!
>> McVay! Do you have a script program that automatically generates this crap 
>> every night from your Nizkor Zionist propaganda website?
>> I bet you do!
>> JS
>>
>>
>>
>> Ken McVay wrote:
>>> [Follow-ups set]
>>>
>>> 1943
>>> ----
>>>
>>> The Vatican sends a formal note to the
>>> Slovak government, protesting plans to resume the
>>> deportation of Jews, stating that such action would
>>> "strike so gravely at the natural rights of man." (USHMM 1993, 32)
>>>
>>> With Himmler visiting Zagreb, German authorities join
>>> with the Croatians in rounding up Jews for deportation.
>>> Trains leave for Auschwitz on May 5 and May 10 with a
>>> total of 1,150 Jews. (USHMM 1993, 33)
>>>
>>>
>>> 1944
>>> ----
>>>
>>> A census of the Jews of Budapest is ordered.  (USHMM 1994, 41)
>>>
>>> SS Gruppenfuehrer (Major General) Richard Gluecks, Inspector
>>> of the Concentration Camps and chief of Office D in the SS
>>> Central Office for Economy and Administration (WVHA)
>>> suggests that Jews be used as subjects for sea-water
>>> experiments. SS Gruppenfuehrer Arthur Nebe, chief of Office
>>> V (Reichskriminalpolizeiamt, or German detective forces) of
>>> the Central Office for Reich Security, suggests that Gypsies
>>> from Auschwitz be used instead. Himmler sides with Nebe, and
>>> the Gypsies are used. (Ibid.)
>>>
>>> The resistance movement at Auschwitz I reports to the Cracow
>>> resistance committee for concertration camp prisoners that
>>> the Germans are obliterating traces of their killing
>>> operations at Auschwitz. Thus, the old crematorium at
>>> Auschwitz I is converted into an air-raid shelter; also, the
>>> execution wall at Block 11 is torn down, and the adjacent
>>> soil, saturated with blood, is trucked away. (Ibid.)
>>>
>>>
>>>                        Work Cited
>>>
>>> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
>>> Years Ago: Revolt Amid the Darkness: Days of Remembrance,
>>> April 18-25, 1993. Washington, D.C.: 1993
>>>                               USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial 
>>> Museum). Fifty
>>> Years Ago: Darkness Before Dawn: Days of Remembrance, April
>>> 3-10, 1994. Washington, D.C.: 1994 
> 
> 


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Kurt Knoll wrote:
> Interesting McVay. It reminds me of the German Prisoners of war returning 
> Siberia. They all did look well nourished but in reality it was the water 
> sickness that made them look that way.
> 
> Kurt Knoll.

9:05pm - McVay Da Zionist script program posted more Zionist crap here!
JS

> 
> "Ken McVay"  wrote in message 
> news:133qkvd634uea6@corp.supernews.com...
>> [Follow-ups set]
>>
>> 1944: A soup strike by younger workers begins in the
>> nail and leather (tannery) workshops of the Lodz ghetto; the
>> workers refuse to accept watery soup rations. The hunger
>> strike spreads and continues for several days. (USHMM 1994, 41)


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New French president Sarkozy, son of a Hungarian emigrant, but his 
mother was a French Jewes!
I think he came to power by Jewish money and support!

 >>>, Sarkozy, who is the son of a Hungarian immigrant and a French 
mother of Greek Jewish origin, is seen by many Jews as a potential 
bulwark against anti-Semitism and anti-Israel attitudes.

Sarkozy has repeatedly declared that he is a friend of Israel and 
pro-American, unlike outgoing pro-Arab President Jacques Chirac. He has 
also has close ties with Jewish community leaders. During his most 
recent trips to the Middle East he visited Israel but never went to the 
terrorist Palestinian Authority territories.<<<



Sarkozy reassures US Jewish leaders about anti-Semitism in France
http://ejpress.org/article/10748

NEW YORK (EJP)--- French Interior minister, Nicolas Sarkozy, has tried 
to reassure leaders of American Jewish organizations worried by 
outbursts of anti-Semitism in France, during a meeting on Monday in New 
York.

“There is a lot of concern. They wonder what is happening in France, why 
there are riots in the suburbs,” Sarkozy told journalists after meeting 
eight American Jewish organisations at the French general consulate in 
New York on Fifth Avenue.

Sarkozy, who is a leading candidate to replace President Jacques Chirac 
in elections next year and is labeled by the American press as ‘France’s 
most unabashedly pro-American politician’, has been on a four-day visit 
to the U.S. since last Saturday.

He attended memorial events in New York commemorating the fifth 
anniversary of the attacks of September 11, 2001.

No link

Sarkozy reassured the American Jewish leaders, worried by the situation 
in France, that riots of young Muslims in Paris suburbs last year had 
“no relation with the situation in Israel”.

He said that “not all Muslims are anti-Semites and not all anti-Semites 
are Muslims”.

“There have been polls in the beginning of 2000 about the reality or not 
of anti-Semitism and I told our friends that France was not an 
anti-Semitic country but that there is some anti-Semitism which we are 
combating with great energy,” Sarkozy said.

According to the minister, “the results are spectacular because the 
number of anti-Semitic acts halved in 2005. I am drawing the conclusion 
that we should not stop watching out, on the contrary we should continue 
this firm policy,” he added.

According to the press, the meeting marked the first time a major French 
presidential candidate has publicly cultivated relations with the 
American Jewish community before an election, and it came as French 
parties are preparing to select their candidates for the presidential 
race in April 2007.

"I am a friend of America. I am a friend of Israel," declared Sarkozy, 
who is heading the conservative governing party “Union pour un Mouvement 
Populaire” or Union for a Popular Movement Union, known by its French 
initials UMP.
Not all Muslims are anti-Semites and not all anti-Semites are Muslims
Nicolas Sarkozy


Among those attending Monday’s meeting were the chairman of the 
Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, Harold 
Tanner, the chairman of the policy council of the World Jewish Congress, 
Rabbi Israel Singer; the president of the American Jewish Congress, Jack 
Rosen, and officials from the American Jewish Committee and 
Anti-Defamation League.

Advice to Israel

Sarkozy declared that Israel was the victim of aggression but managed to 
lose the image war, so that the idea of Israelis as victims was replaced 
by pictures of dead Lebanese children.

"Israel must pay more attention to its international image. If Israel 
has a terrible international image, it cannot exclusively be the fault 
of everyone else,” the minister stressed.

Israel should explore the possibility of talks with Syria in order to 
effect a split between Damascus and Tehran, he said.

And Israel should be "more proactive," he said. "When you are small, you 
must be swift."

He advised Israel "never to be the aggressor, and never to be caught 
standing still."

The 51-year-old Sarkozy is currently leading most recent French opinion 
polls by a narrow margin over his nearest potential rival, Socialist 
Ségolène Royal.


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http://www.ajn.com.au/news/news.asp?pgID=3157
The former interior minister was seen by Jewish voters as a friend to 
Israel and an important figure in the fight against antisemitism. Soon 
after his opponent conceded, Jewish groups came out with their good wishes.

"At a time when French Jews felt directly threatened by the rise in 
violent antisemitism in Paris and elsewhere across France a few years 
ago, Sarkozy played a critical role in moving the French government to 
finally recognise the gravity of the problem and to do what is necessary 
to address the ill winds that not only threaten the largest Jewish 
community in Western Europe, but, as we know from history, would 
ultimately pose a threat to wider French society," American Jewish 
Committee executive director David Harris said in a statement.

The AJCommittee recalled that Sarkozy during that period was 
instrumental in stepping up police protection around Jewish buildings 
and schools, and arresting and prosecuting those who committed 
anti-Semitic acts. He told the group in a Washington address in 2004 
that he would "consider any insult against Jews an insult against France."

CRIF, the French Jewish community's umbrella group, addressed its 
"warmest and most respectful congratulations" to Sarkozy in a Sunday 
statement.


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McVay using a script program, to post his crap automatically!
Look it the time on his posts! 9:05 PM!
JS

TurkeyBoy wrote:
> The former gas station attendant, McVay posts his daily paid Zionist
> hate propaganda because pumping gas does not pay too well and it can
> be miserable in the winter if you provide full service. The pay is
> even worse for self service stations. McVay managed to exchange that
> for a desk job and his Ziomasters probably pay him better than minimum
> wage. What is dumb about it? It does not take much to do what he is
> doing. His Ziomasters had to set up and pay for his website and design
> the format of his daily posts. All he has to do is pull out some stuff
> and post it every day. It even had an air of public announcement about
> it as long as he confined his cross posts to alt.revisionism,
> soc.history and soc.culture.jewish. Under these circumstances, even
> directing the follow-up to only alt.revisionism did not seem so bad.
> It is not so bad so far.
> 
> The problems started with cross posting to lists of the former Soviet
> Union and Soviet occupied Europe. That is how I first saw one of
> McVay's paid Zionist propaganda and it came at an awkward time as we
> were discussing Communists and Nazis. It was a surprise when I did not
> see my response appear on my list and soon discovered the dishonest
> way McVay directs the follow-ups to alt.revisionism only. It irritated
> me and decided to see more. Anyone who does not stand a rebuttal of
> his posts on the same lists he posted to has to be dishonest.
> 
> People on these lists know about the horrible role Jewish Communists
> played in carrying out Stalin's orders. Jews were not the only
> Communists and Germans were not the only Nazis but without the Jew
> Marx and the German Hitler there would have never been Communists and
> Nazis. It is an important fact for those who wish to have a balanced
> discussion of history and to deny either is wrong. There are
> extremists on both sides but what really gets to someone like me is
> this organized attempt to betray Jews as the victims, only the victims
> and all others the perpetrators. It is not true! The Poles, Russians
> and Ukrainians know better.
> 
> Have a nice vegetarian day!
> 
> 
> 


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flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:
> On  8-May-2007, Protagonist  wrote:
> 
>> McVay using a script program, to post his crap automatically!
>> Look it the time on his posts! 9:05 PM!
> 
> Just because your bedtime is 7:00 pm EST doesn't mean adults have to go to
> bed that early.
> 
> Susan

Haha! Your so funny, I all most choked on my swastika!
JS


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9:06 PM McVay clock is off a minute on this post!
JS

Ken McVay wrote:
> [Follow-ups set]
> 
> May 10
> 
> 1941
> 
> Rudolf Hess flies to Scotland. Martin Bormann succeeds him
> as head of the Party under Hitler, with the title of Chief
> of the Party Chancery. In that position he took over all
> offices and powers formerly held by Hess, especially his
> membership in the Cabinet and on the Ministers' Council for
> the Defense of the Reich (2099-PS). (NCA II, 898)
> 
> 1942
> 
> One thousand people were murdered during an Aktion in Wolozyn, 
> Byelorussia.  (Edelheit 1994, 169)
> 
> 1943
> 
> Senator William Langer (R-ND) attacks the lack of results from the 
> Bermuda refugee conference, telling the Senate that two million European Jews 
> have already been killed and that five million others will be murdered 
> unless rescued immediately. (USHMM 1993, 33)
> 
> 1944
> 
> Himmler orders the dissolution of all remaining ghettos and the deportation of 
> Jewish residents to concentration camps. (USHMM 1994, 41)
> 
> 
>                        Work Cited
> 
> Edelheit, Abraham J., and Hershel Edelheit.  History of the 
> 	Holocaust:  A Handbook and Dictionary.  Boulder:  Westview Press, 1994.
> 
> NCA II. Office of the United States Chief of Counsel for Prosecution of 
>    Axis Criminality. Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression, Volume II. Washington: 
>    United States Government Printing Office, 1946
> 
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
> Years Ago: Revolt Amid the Darkness: Days of Remembrance,
> April 18-25, 1993. Washington, D.C.: 1993
>                               
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
> Years Ago: Darkness Before Dawn: Days of Remembrance, April
> 3-10, 1994. Washington, D.C.: 1994


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Haha! Look it the time of the post of Mcvay's script program - 9:07 PM.
Now, he makes the program count up 1 minute every day!
Either his Holohoax crap confused the PC clock!
JS




Ken McVay wrote:
> [Follow-ups set]
> 
> 1944: Bowing to pressure from other governments, the
> Germans in Italy agree to allow Jews of Turkish, Spanish,
> Portugese, Swiss, Swedish, and Finnish citizenship to return
> home. (USHMM 1994, 41)
> 
> SS Sturmbannfuehrer (SS Major) Richard Baer is appointed
> commandant of Auschwitz I. His predecessor, Liebehenschel,
> is transferred to Majdanek concentration camp. (Ibid.)
> 
> 
> 
>                          Work Cited
>                               
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
> Years Ago: Darkness Before Dawn: Days of Remembrance, April
> 3-10, 1994. Washington, D.C.: 1994


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TurkeyBoy wrote:
> On May 10, 4:36 pm, Protagonist  wrote:
>> 9:06 PM McVay clock is off a minute on this post!
>> JS
> 
> His ziomasters pay him to work 9 to 5 and that is what he does.
> Do you have a problem with that?
> 
> Have a nice vegetarian day!
> 

Looks like, pumping gas can't support him and the cost of his Holohax 
website!
JS



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Richard Warren wrote:
> Researchers have linked oral sex to a type of throat cancer, saying that 
> those who engaged in the sexual act with more than six partners over the 
> course of their lifetime were nine times more likely to develop 
> oropharyngeal cancer.
> 
> http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/05/study_links_ora.html
> 
> 
> 
> 

That's why all the Jews dieing in throat cancer, eh!?
JS


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Master lier McVay said American Jews have no control over German 
Holohoax archives, but they have control over EU's politics, 
presidential elections (see France new Hungarian Jew president Sarkozy) 
or suing the Swiss banks for billions of $$$$, forcing EU countries to 
build Holohax museums etc...!
JS


Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
> In article ,
> ElParedon  wrote:
>> "Kenneth McVay OBC"  wrote in message 
>> news:134bt4dbskjg62c@corp.supernews.com...
>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/18/world/main1507356.shtml
>>>
>>> AP) Germany agreed Tuesday to clear the way for the opening of Nazi 
>>> records on some 17
>>> million Jews and enslaved laborers who were persecuted and slain by the 
>>> Nazis and their
>>> collaborators more than 60 years ago during the Holocaust.
>> This has nothing to do with Germans, stupid idiot. It is the American Jews 
>> who oppose opening the archives to the public.
> 
> Who cares, Leading Revisionist Liar Seredin? "American Jews" have no 
> control over the archives, and, being Americans, they are quite free
> to express themselves as they wish.
> 
> Nothing they say, however, means anything with respect to the release
> of the archives to scholars.
> 
> Do try to focus, Village Idiot of DelRay Beach.
> 
> http://pbn.home.pl/2007/02/15/bad-arolsen-opens-nazi-archive/
> 
> Eleven member-states, presiding the International Tracing Service (ITS), decided in May
> 2006 to open the documentation on the persecutees of the Nazi regime to historical
> research. While the ratification process of this decision is in progress, the
> International Tracing Service in Bad Arolsen is making the technical preparations
> necessary so that the enormous data quantities stand ready for use and transfer. Until
> yesterday, an expert committee including 30 specialists from nine countries debated on
> the method of how best to prepare the sensitive data for the transfer. 
> 
> All in all, 30 million single sheets of paper supplying information on persecutees of the
> National Socialist era are kept in Bad Arolsen, among them the names of the persons
> mentioned in the famous ?Schindler?s list?. In part, these documents are more than 60
> years old and - as record of the human affliction under the NS-Regime - unique.
> Presently, all documents are in the process of being digitised and indexed for electronic
> use, with the data quantity comprising approximately seven terabyte. The digitisation of
> the documents facilitates answering personal inquiries of the haunted and their relatives
> and, on the other hand, access for historical research. In order to protect the
> originals, only persons directly concerned and their relatives as well as ITS staff have
> access to them.
> 
>  "The digitisation of the data constitutes both a huge technical and logistic challenge.
> There are no comparable digitisation procedures in Western Europe or America in this
> scale that I know of," IT expert Uwe Ossenberg says.
> 
>  The opening of the archive for historical research is focussed on preparing the
> respective documents and creating the preconditions in Bad Arolsen for historical
> research and at the same time to transfer the data files to the member-states.
> Considering that most of the information is confidential, privacy protection regulations
> are to be observed. So to prevent that the persecutees of the National Socialist regime
> are further victimized, the states have agreed to handle the data in accordance with
> their respective national privacy protection legislation.
> 
>  The Nazis were appallingly meticulous in noting virtually everything in the minutest
> details, ranging from hereditary disease in families to the number of lice on the head of
> a concentration camp inmate.
> 
>  "The International Tracing Service keeps unique documents on the crimes committed by the
> Nazi regime. We like to place this information at the disposal of researchers allowing
> that it be historically analysed and written down for posterity. The International
> Tracing Service was established to provide information on individual fates and to reunite
> families after the war. The documents held here are a record of history. The ITS is going
> to assume more and more the tasks of an archive, so as to preserve the original documents
> for the future. Additionally, the information is made accessible to research by
> electronically registering and cataloguing the papers," states the new ITS-Director Reto
> Meister.
> 
>  For eleven hours, day by day, staff manually scan the historical documents on eight
> scanners. This way, 63 % of the holdings have already been digitised.
> 
>  To enable the opening of the archives, the so-called "Bonn Treaty" had to be amended.
> All eleven member states (Belgium, France, the Federal Republic of Germany, Greece,
> Israel, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Poland, the United Kingdom and the United
> States of America) approved the amendment of the agreement. As soon as the ratification
> process is completed, the documents can be viewed by researchers in Bad Arolsen. Upon
> request, member states will receive electronic copies of the documents and archival
> material. 
> 
> =30=
> 
> Golly, Leading Revisionist Scholar Seredin, it appears that (1) eleven states, not
> just Israel, control (and have controlled) these archives, and that (2) they are
> *already* being released to national archives within the Bonn Treaty signatory
> states.
> 
> http://mediacrity.blogspot.com/2005_11_20_mediacrity_archive.html
> 
> Seashells, Plastic Mermaids -- and Internet Hate 
> 
> A reader brings to my attention this cute little 
> item in City Link magazine, a publication of the 
> Tribune Company-owned Sun Sentinel in South Florida 
> that calls itself "South Florida's premier youth 
> culture magazine." In an item on the "best" places 
> in the area, under "Best Place To Buy Tacky 
> Souvenirs," the magazine picks the Peter Pan 
> souvenir shop in Delray Beach, Florida:
> 
> You would never know from their business that 
> Alex and Mona Seredin, the current owners of this 
> 54-year-old store, hail from Canada. Stepping 
> inside Peter Pan brings you back to 1950s South 
> Florida, when walking catfish flopped across the 
> roads and your nearest neighbor was likely to 
> be an alligator. This store offers hundreds of 
> pieces of coral, seashell jewelry, straw hats 
> and embroidered T-shirts with Florida themes.
> 
> Cute! What the item leaves out, however, is its 
> proprietor's real claim to fame -- which is peddling 
> hate, not "tacky souvenirs." Alex Seredin is the 
> author of literally thousands of crudely anti-Semitic 
> screeds on Internet Usenet boards, commonly referring 
> to Jews as "kikes" and "long noses." Seredin recently 
> opined that Jews "have no right to a country except 
> six feet under," and recommended that "Palestinians 
> expel all the bloody kikes."
> 
> Suggestion to City Link: Next time you profile a 
> "tacky" souvenir shop owner, run the name in Google. 
> You might find that more than just the souvenirs are "tacky."


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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070514/wl_nm/israel_europe_antisemitism_dc

Anti-Semitism on rise in parts of Europe: study

By Allyn Fisher-IlanMon May 14, 9:01 AM ET

An increasing number of Europeans believe that Jews are more loyal to 
Israel than to their home countries and have too much influence in world 
finance, a U.S. group monitoring anti-Semitism said on Monday.

"A large number of Europeans continue to be infected with anti-Jewish 
attitudes, holding on to classic anti-Semitic canards and conspiracy 
theories," Abraham Foxman, director of the Washington-based 
Anti-Defamation League, told reporters.

"These attitudes help legitimize anti-Semitism, including violence 
against Jews, and give us great concern," he said.

A survey conducted by the Anti-Defamation League in France, Spain, 
German, Poland and Italy in March and April found that negative 
stereotypes about Jews had gained ground in these countries since 2005.

The study measured responses to these statements: that Jews are more 
loyal to Israel than their country, that they have too much power in the 
business world and financial markets and that they talk too much about 
the Nazi Holocaust of World War Two.

In all countries studied, with the exception of Italy, the poll found an 
increase since a survey in 2005 in the percentage of Europeans who felt 
Jews held Israel above their own states.

In Poland and Spain, about 60 percent of those surveyed expressed that 
sentiment, up from about 50 percent two years ago. In Germany the figure 
was 51 percent, with 48 percent in Italy and 39 percent in France.

Foxman called the dual loyalty allegation "a classical canard of 
anti-Semitism" and a tenet of Hitler's ideology that Jews had sold out 
Germany for their own interests.

One in four of the some 2,700 people surveyed said their attitudes 
toward Jews "are colored by events in the Middle East," Foxman added. Of 
these, 52 percent said they held a lower opinion of Jews as a result.

Foxman pointed to what he called an emergence of "a significant 
relationship" between anti-Semitism and anti-Israeli sentiments or 
criticism. But he said it was too soon to draw any direct parallels from 
the survey.

The study did not tabulate incidents of anti-Semitic violence in Europe. 
Tel Aviv University in Israel said in findings published in April that 
the numbers of attacks against Jews had doubled worldwide last year 
compared with 2005.

Most of the rise in violence was reported in Australia, Canada, the 
United Kingdom and France, the Tel Aviv study said.


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Joe Bruno wrote:
> Ever since my .308 Mauser was stolen from my truck years ago, I've
> been looking for another bolt-action rifle. Found a beauty today in a
> sporting goods store.
> 
> It's an 8mm Mauser made in Yugoslavia.
> The action is nice and tight, there are very few scratches on it and
> it's still got the preservative grease on it.
> 
> Can't wait to buy it and try it out.
> 

Are you planning to shoot yourself?
JS



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Peter wrote:
> "Protagonist"  skrev i en meddelelse 
> news:JpCdnRaMyoyV79TbnZ2dnUVZ_o6gnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070514/wl_nm/israel_europe_antisemitism_dc
>>
>> Anti-Semitism on rise in parts of Europe: study
>>
>> By Allyn Fisher-IlanMon May 14, 9:01 AM ET
>>
>> An increasing number of Europeans believe that Jews are more loyal to 
>> Israel than to their home countries and have too much influence in world 
>> finance, a U.S. group monitoring anti-Semitism said on Monday.
>>
>>
> Well that I think is a fact, but why do you try to create antisemites out of 
> plain facts that do not relate to antisemitism. 
> 
> 
Jews/Zionist do any thing to keep them in the media spot light, weather 
it's negative or positive news about them!
JS



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Joe Bruno wrote:
> On May 12, 5:08 pm, Protagonist  wrote:
>> Master lier McVay said American Jews have no control over German
>> Holohoax archives, but they have control over EU's politics,
>> presidential elections (see France new Hungarian Jew president Sarkozy)
>> or suing the Swiss banks for billions of $$$$, forcing EU countries to
>> build Holohax museums etc...!
>> JS
> 
> 
> Really? I used to work for a group of investment bankers out of
> Stuttgart.
> I asked them to do a number of things for me and they never did any of
> them.
> 
> 

'Cause you're a nobody Jew!
JS


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At least he's changing the time of posting some what. Well, a few minutes!
It was to obvious, he's using a script program, which copy/paste 
Holohoax craps from his Nizkor website.
Holohoax automation!!!!!
JS



TurkeyBoy wrote:
> The former gas station attendant, McVay posts his daily paid Zionist
> hate propaganda because pumping gas does not pay too well and it can
> be miserable in the winter if you provide full service. The pay is
> even worse for self service stations. McVay managed to exchange that
> for a desk job and his Ziomasters probably pay him better than minimum
> wage. What is dumb about it? It does not take much to do what he is
> doing. His Ziomasters had to set up and pay for his website and design
> the format of his daily posts. All he has to do is pull out some stuff
> and post it every day. It even had an air of public announcement about
> it as long as he confined his cross posts to alt.revisionism,
> soc.history and soc.culture.jewish. Under these circumstances, even
> directing the follow-up to only alt.revisionism did not seem so bad.
> It is not so bad so far.
> 
> The problems started with cross posting to lists of the former Soviet
> Union and Soviet occupied Europe. That is how I first saw one of
> McVay's paid Zionist propaganda and it came at an awkward time as we
> were discussing Communists and Nazis. It was a surprise when I did not
> see my response appear on my list and soon discovered the dishonest
> way McVay directs the follow-ups to alt.revisionism only. It irritated
> me and decided to see more. Anyone who does not stand a rebuttal of
> his posts on the same lists he posted to has to be dishonest.
> 
> People on these lists know about the horrible role Jewish Communists
> played in carrying out Stalin's orders. Jews were not the only
> Communists and Germans were not the only Nazis but without the Jew
> Marx and the German Hitler there would have never been Communists and
> Nazis. It is an important fact for those who wish to have a balanced
> discussion of history and to deny either is wrong. There are
> extremists on both sides but what really gets to someone like me is
> this organized attempt to betray Jews as the victims, only the victims
> and all others the perpetrators. It is not true! The Poles, Russians
> and Ukrainians know better.
> 
> Have a nice vegetarian day!
> 
> 
> 


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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070516/ap_on_bi_ge/world_bank_wolfowitz

  Wolfowitz working on resignation deal

By JEANNINE AVERSA, AP Economics Writer 37 minutes ago

Embattled World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz sought a face-saving 
agreement Wednesday that would allow him to resign under his own terms 
and escape some blame for the conflict of interest involving his 
girlfriend's generous pay deal.

The negotiations, disclosed by officials familiar with them, took place 
as the bank's board deliberated Wolfowitz's fate.

The board's meeting ended Wednesday without a resolution. Deliberations 
were to resume Thursday morning.

Wolfowitz wanted the bank to accept some responsibility for the 
conflicts cited by a special bank committee, according to officials who 
spoke on condition of anonymity because of the delicate state of 
negotiations at the bank.

It was not clear whether the bank's 24-member board would agree to 
Wolfowitz's terms.

Pressure on Wolfowitz to resign has grown since release of the panel's 
report Monday regarding his handling of the 2005 pay package of bank 
employee Shaha Riza.

Wolfowitz has maintained that he acted in good faith.

Messages left Wednesday with Wolfowitz's lawyer, Robert Bennett (news, 
bio, voting record), were not immediately returned.

The bank panel said the board must consider whether Wolfowitz "will be 
able to provide the leadership" to ensure that the bank achieves its 
mission of fighting poverty around the world through loans and grants.

The 185-nation World Bank provides more than $20 billion a year for 
projects that include building dams and roads, bolstering education and 
fighting disease.

The bank, created in 1945 to rebuild Europe after World War II, has 
evolved into a major development organization. A centerpiece program 
provides interest-free loans to the poorest countries.

Before taking over the bank nearly two years ago, Wolfowitz was the No. 
2 official at the Pentagon and played a lead role in mapping out the 
U.S.-led war in Iraq.

The White House, which picked Wolfowitz for the World Bank post, 
indicated for the first time on Tuesday it was willing to consider new 
leadership.

By tradition, the bank has been run by an American, with the approval of 
the bank's board. The bank's sister agency, the International Monetary 
Fund, is headed by a European. The United States, the bank's biggest 
financial contributor, wants to keep that decades-old tradition intact.

Wolfowitz canceled a planned trip to a bank-sponsored development 
conference in Bled, Slovenia, on Thursday and Friday to work with the board.

In a plea to save his job, Wolfowitz appeared before the board on 
Tuesday. "You still have the opportunity to avoid long-term damage by 
resolving this matter in a fair and equitable way that recognizes that 
we all tried to do the right thing, however imperfectly we went about 
it," he told the board.

Riza worked for the bank before Wolfowitz took over as president in June 
2005. She was moved to the State Department to avoid a conflict of 
interest, but stayed on the bank's payroll. Her salary went from close 
to $133,000 to $180,000. With subsequent raises, it eventually rose to 
$193,590.

The panel concluded that the salary increase Riza received "at Mr. 
Wolfowitz's direction was in excess of the range" allowed under bank rules.

The panel said Wolfowitz "placed himself in a conflict of interest 
situation" when he became involved in the terms and details of Riza's 
assignment and pay package and "he should have withdrawn from any 
decision-making in the matter."

The panel acknowledged, however, that informal advice Wolfowitz received 
>from the bank's ethics committee "was not a model of clarity."

European members — led by France, Germany and the Netherlands — are 
pushing for Wolfowitz to resign.

German media quoted Development Minister Heidemarie Wieczorek-Zeul as 
saying Wednesday that Wolfowitz "would do the bank and himself a great 
service if he resigned. That would be the best for all involved."

The flap, which has gripped the bank for a month, has threatened to 
tarnish the institution's reputation and hobble its ability to persuade 
countries to contribute billions of dollars to provide financial aid to 
poor nations.

"This has certainly been a bruising episode for the bank, and what you 
have to do is figure out a way forward to maintain the integrity of the 
institution," White House press secretary Tony Snow said Wednesday.

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice 
have said the conflict-of-interest charges against Wolfowitz were not 
grounds for him to be fired.


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jbruno@indystart.com wrote:
> http://www.faits-et-documents.com/bilan_communisme/nonaggression_pact.htm
> 

Haha! Must be true, eh?
Soviets were ready to attack and take over Europe! But the Germans 
prevented it buy attacking them  2 weeks sooner.
Soviet army were caught with the pants down, that's why the Germans 
early successes. Pushed the Red Army back to Moscow, capturing a huge 
amount of Red soldiers and equipment!
Hitler all ways said: He never wanted war, but the international Jewry 
forced it on Germany.
Da money changers!
Same people, Jesus smashed in Jerusalem!
JS



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oneeyewotan@gmail.com wrote:
> On 19 touko, 10:46, Protagonist  wrote:
>> jbr...@indystart.com wrote:
>>> http://www.faits-et-documents.com/bilan_communisme/nonaggression_pact...
>> Haha! Must be true, eh?
>> Soviets were ready to attack and take over Europe! But the Germans
>> prevented it buy attacking them  2 weeks sooner.
> 
> There's been a lot disscussion had a Stalin and idea to attack in
> summer 1941. Some say it had, some say hadn't and both sides has good
> arguments.
> 
>> Soviet army were caught with the pants down, that's why the Germans
>> early successes. Pushed the Red Army back to Moscow, capturing a huge
>> amount of Red soldiers and equipment!
> 
> Yes, the formation of Soviet army was vulnerable and some say that it
> was because of attack formation.
> 
>> Hitler all ways said: He never wanted war, but the international Jewry
>> forced it on Germany.
> 
> Hitler said in Mein Kampf in 20's that germans need living space in
> the east. 

Politicians say many things, what ever interest comes around to help 
them higher in power.
But you like to take things out of context, don't you?

The attack to Soviet Union was a logical decision.

No! It was a necessary steps to prevent the Soviets to attack Europe.
Hitler-Stalin pact was dead any way.
Stalin attacked Finland to start the encirclement of Europe, it was not 
part of the Hitler-Stalin pact.
There were millions of troops and equipment build up was on the Russian 
boarder on both side for months. Now to say, Russians didn't know or it 
was a surprised German attack is lot of BS!
Soviets knew whats going on, except they were not finished!

Blaming interntional jewry was racist and hate filled argument, nothing new.

They financed the f***ing war on both sides, Rothschild's and the 
Warburgs. They got rich over the war!
What an idiot!
JS

> 
> 
> 


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http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/zionism/holocaust/anne_frank_life_and_times.htm

World War I had ended in an Armistice, a stoppage of fighting, when 
Jewish Communists created disruptions and revolution against the German 
monarchy. At the Peace Conference at Versailles, France, Jewish bankers 
forced Germany to pay for the Anne (4) and Margo in Aachen, Germany 
before rejoining their fatherwar by shipping all their gold to the Bank 
of England. Germany’s economic system collapsed with the devaluation of 
their money causing unemployment, homelessness, and starvation for 
millions of the German people in the early 1920’s. As Germany began to 
slowly recover there was much political upheaval and chaos. In 1933 
Hitler’s National Socialist Party had won a slight plurality in the 
elections and had begun to segregate Jews from the national life so that 
they could never again cause such catastrophe.. The American Jewish 
Congress and the World Jewish Congress declared war on Germany through a 
global boycott of German goods.  But Ralph Shoenman reports in The 
Hidden History of Zionism,

     the World Zionist Organization Congress in 1933 defeated a 
resolution calling for action against Hitler by a vote of 240 to 43.

     During this very Congress, Hitler announced a trade agreement with 
the WZO’s Anglo-Palestine Bank, breaking, thereby, the Jewish boycott of 
the Nazi regime at a time when the German economy was extremely 
vulnerable. It was the height of the Depression and people were wheeling 
barrels full of worthless German Marks. The World Zionist Organization 
broke the Jewish boycott and became the principal distributor of Nazi 
goods throughout the Middle East and Northern Europe. They established 
the Ha’avara, which was a bank in Palestine designed to receive monies 
>from the German-Jewish bourgeoisie, with which sums Nazi goods were 
purchased in very substantial quantity.

     Consequently, the Zionists brought Baron Von Mildenstein of the 
S.S. Security Service to Palestine for a six-month visit in support of 
Zionism. This visit led to a twelve-part report by Joseph Goebbels, 
Hitler’s Minister of Propaganda, in Der Angriff (The Assault) in 1934 
praising Zionism. Goebbels ordered a medallion struck with the Swastika 
on one side, and on the other, the Zionist Star of David. In May 1935, 
Reinhardt Heydrich, the chief of the S.S. Security Service, wrote an 
article in which he separated Jews into "two categories." The Jews he 
favored were the Zionists: "Our good wishes together with our official 
good will go with them."[82] In 1937, the Labor "socialist" Zionist 
militia, the Haganah (founded by Jabotinsky) sent an agent (Feivel 
Polkes) to Berlin offering to spy for the S.S. Security Service in 
exchange for the release of Jewish wealth for Zionist colonization. 
Adolf Eichmann was invited to Palestine as the guest of the Haganah.

In the summer of 1933, Otto Frank left Frankfurt to set up a new 
business in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, In early 1934, the family was 
reunited when they joined Otto in Amsterdam.

Most of the Jewish population of Europe had been drawn to Germany 
because there they had found the greatest welcome.  Zionists were 
setting up a way to force Jews to return to Palestine by making life 
difficult for the Jewish people in Germany and the Nazis were looking 
for a way to get the Jews out of Germany. Israel Shahak reveals in his 
book: Jewish History, Jewish Religion

     "Zionist leaders in Germany welcomed Hitler's rise to power, 
because they shared his belief in the primacy of "race" and his 
hostility to the assimilation of Jews among "Aryans". They congratulated 
Hitler on his triumph over the common enemy - the forces of liberalism."

In an article, "Secret Contacts: Zionism and Nazi Germany 1933-1941" 
published in the Journal of Palestine Studies, Klaus Polkehn, a 
prominent journalist in the German Democratic Republic reported that on 
28 February 1937, Feivel Polkes, a general staff officer of the 
underground Zionist army in Palestine, the Haganah, had contacted 
Herbert Hagen, director of the Nazis’ Office of Jewish Affairs 
(Judenreferat) and Adolf Eichmann, the head of the SS (Schutzstaffel), 
the Nazi secret police. Polkes was interested in “accelerating Jewish 
immigration to Palestine so that Jews would obtain a majority over the 
Arabs in his country.”

Eichmann had been a protege of the pro-Zionist von Mildenstein and, like 
his mentor, had studied Hebrew, read Herzl and was the SD’s specialist 
on Zionism. The Eichmann-Polkes conversations were recorded in a report 
prepared by Eichmann’s superior, Franz-Albert Six, which was found in 
the SS files captured by the American Army at the end of the Second 
World War:

     Polkes is a national-Zionist He is against all Jews who are opposed 
to the erection of a Jewish state in Palestine. As a Haganah man he 
fights against Communism and all aims of Arab-British friendship ... He 
noted that the Haganah’s goal is to reach, as soon as possible, a Jewish 
majority in Palestine. Therefore he worked, as this objective required, 
with or against the British Intelligence Service, the Sureté Generale, 
with England and Italy ... He declared himself willing to work for 
Germany in the form of providing intelligence as long as this does not 
oppose his own political goals. Among other things he would support 
German foreign policy in the Near East. He would try to find oil sources 
for the German Reich without affecting British spheres of interest if 
the German monetary regulations were eased for Jewish emigrants to 
Palestine. David Yisraeli, The Palestine Problem in German Politics 
1889-1945 (Hebrew), Bar-Ilan university, Appendix (German): Geheime 
Kommandosache Bericht, pp.301-2

In October 1937, Eichmann and Hagen traveled by ship to Haifa on Polkes’ 
invitation. They were turned away by British authorities and instead met 
with Polkes in Cairo, Egypt, at the Café Groppi on the 10 and 11 October 
1937. Polkes told them:

The Zionist State must be established by all means and as soon as 
possible so that it attracts a stream of Jewish immigrants to Palestine. 
When the Jewish state is established according to the current 
proposals…., and in line with England’s partial promises, then the 
borders may be pushed further outwards according to one’s wishes.

England had laid out a plan to divide Palestine into a Jewish state and 
an Arab state, but had blocked further Jewish immigration to Palestine 
to satisfy the Arabs who had revolted against the actions of the new 
Jewish immigrants to their country. Lenni Brenner wrote in Zionism in 
the Age of Dictators, Ch 8:

     They [Arabs] had never accepted the British Mandate with its 
declared aim of creating a Jewish National Home in their land. There had 
been riots in 1920 and 1921; in 1929, after a series of provocations 
>from Zionist chauvinists and Muslim fanatics at the Wailing Wall, the 
Muslim masses rioted in a wave of atrocious massacres which culminated 
with 135 Jewish deaths and almost as many Muslims killed, primarily by 
the British.

In 1938 the collaboration between the Haganah and the German Reich was 
the illegal immigration organization called the “Mossad Aliyah Beth.” 
Pina Ginsburg and Moshe Auerbach set up offices in Berlin. The Gestapo 
had discussed with Ginsburg “how to promote and expand illegal Jewish 
immigration into Palestine against the will of the British mandate 
government.”

In summer of 1938, Eichmann met in Vienna with Bar-Gilead of the Mossad, 
who requested permission to set up training camps for the Jewish 
emigrants to prepare them for work in their new home, Palestine. Berlin 
granted permission and provided supplies to construct the camps. 
Ginsburg, working with the Reich also began setting up camps. Joseph 
Ginsburg, a Jewish Communist who had been close connections to the 
hidden history of the camps and had inspected the camps when the Red 
Army had advanced into Poland, said in an interview with Eric Thomson:

     "Zionists were given such jurisdiction in transit/training camps 
like Theresienstadt and they also established autonomous zones in parts 
of occupied Poland and Russia, as well as ruling over the ghettos of 
Polish cities like Warsaw, Lublin and Crakow."

     "Is it true," I asked, "that the Germans taught Jews such trades as 
carpentry, bricklaying, machine tooling, plumbing, farming, animal 
husbandry, auto mechanics, etc.?"

     Yes," he said, "they did. The Germans also helped the Zionists to 
have their own money, banks, postage stamps, post offices and police, 
all of which were recognized by the German authorities."

     "It is so different from the Hollywood version of German-Jewish 
relations which the Zionists want us to believe,"

On July 5, 1942, Anne's sister, Margot, receives a call-up notice to be 
deported to a Zionist-Nazi "work camp." Even though the hiding place in 
the annex of her father's office is not yet ready, the Franks realize 
that they must move immediately. They quickly finish packing and leave 
messages implying that they have left the Netherlands. Early the next 
morning Anne and her family leave their home to hide in the Annex. I 
visited the Secret Annex in 1986.

Between 1933 and 1941 the Ha'avara Agreement was in effect to implement 
the transfer of money from German Jewish accounts to Palestine. On 27 
January 1938, Hitler gave his assent. Documents show that his intent was 
to remove Jews from Germany by immigration and the Zionists had set up 
the framework by which that could happen. It did not include 
extermination or genocidal murder. No documents have EVER been found 
that has proved that intent. Ben-Gurion informed a meeting of Labor 
Zionists in Great Britain in 1938:

     "If I knew that it would be possible to save all the children in 
Germany by bringing them over to England and only half of them by 
transporting them to Eretz Israel, then I opt for the second alternative."

Further, the Soviet archives which contain the complete file of the 
German concentra-tion camp system “it is apparent that the death toll in 
all the camps from their beginning to the end of the war was 
approximately 400,000.” The Final Solution was by evacua-tion, not 
extermination. A document from the Zionist Irgun Zvai Leumi (National 
Military Organization) still classified in Britain outlines

     Common interests that could exist between the establishment of a 
new order in Europe in conformity with the German concept and the true 
national aspirations of the Jewish people as they are embodied in the 
NMO (National Military Organization)

      Cooperation between the new Germany and a renewed Hebrew nation 
would be possible.

This document goes on to offer to take an active part in the war on 
Germany’s side.

Zionists worked closely with the Gestapo to locate, identify, and 
transport European Jews to the camps, helped confiscate their property 
and transfer the assets to bank accounts which included Bank Leumi in 
Israel which is even now blocking the return of those assets to the 
survivors of the camps. (Israeli banks profit from Holocaust) Shoenmann 
(The Hidden History of Zionism) writes,

     The dirty secret of Zionist history is that Zionism was threatened 
by the Jews themselves. Defending the Jewish people from persecution 
meant organizing resistance to the regimes which menaced them. But these 
regimes embodied the imperial order which comprised the only social 
force willing or able to impose a settler colony on the Palestinian 
people. Hence, the Zionists needed the persecution of the Jews to 
persuade Jews to become colonizers afar, and they needed the persecutors 
to sponsor the enterprise.

Vladimir Jabotinsky, in his last work, The Jewish War Front, (1940) 
wrote of his plans for the Palestinian people:

     Since we have this great moral authority for calmly envisaging the 
exodus of Arabs, we need not regard the possible departure of 900,000 
with dismay. Herr Hitler has recently been enhancing the popularity of 
population transfer

Much has been made of the attempt of the Nazis to collaborate with Arabs 
in Palestine because in 1938 Admiral Canaris, head of military 
intelligence, tried to play both sides, but found the Arabs to be 
politically and militarily incompetent. The irregular payments were 
ended soon after the alliance was begun. (Yisraeli, The Third Reich and 
Palestine, Middle East Studies, May 1971, p.349.)
bkcase.gifOn 4 August 1944, the Frank's were discovered. A Nazi 
policeman and several Dutch collaborators came to 263 Prinsengracht and 
head straight for the bookcase that leads to the Secret Annex. The Frank 
and van Pels families were forced to turn over all their valuables and 
were loaded into a covered truck for transport to the Central Office for 
Jewish Emigration, and then to Weteringschans Prison.

For their role in hiding the Frank and Van Pels families, Victor Kugler 
and Johannes Kleiman, are imprisoned. Miep Gies gathers and saves Anne's 
scattered "diary" pages of her unfinished novel, Het Achterhuis.

Maintaining and provisioning these “training camps” became problematic 
as the war wore on. Shipments of food and medicine were delayed or 
destroyed on their way to the camps and people starved or became ill. 
Many died in an emigration program run off its wheels. The hospitals in 
the camps could not handle all of the sick and many died of typhus. The 
Frank family was finally caught in this Zionist-Gestapo dragnet. In 
October, 1944, Anne and Margot were transported from Auschwitz to the 
Bergen-Belsen concentration camp in Germany. Thousands died from 
starvation and epidemics at Bergen-Belsen, which was without food, heat, 
medicine, or elementary sanitary conditions. Anne and Margot, already 
weakened from living in the concentration camps, became ill with typhus. 
The camp was liberated by allied troops in 1945, one month after the 
death of Anne Frank. Anne, her sister and her mother died of typhus 
shortly before the war ended. Otto Frank was stronger and, in the camp 
hospital, was able to recover.

Ann Frank: Diary of a Young Girl refers indirectly to these times and 
only the epilogue makes the case for her tragic death as the horrible 
outcome of the Nazi’s "Final Solution." Unquestioned by a world 
traumatized by a brutal war, this history was twisted by Zionists to be 
used as a way to convict Germans of crimes which they did not commit and 
to use the false guilt of all Gentiles (non-Jews) to establish the State 
of Israel on lands owned and inhabited by Arabs, without the Arabs 
permission. This universal “guilt” of all non-Jews continues to be used 
today to defend Israel from its own crimes of subversion, occupation and 
genocide of the Palestinians as they expand their borders by war and by 
building a wall.

The novel, The Rear House, written by Anne Frank as though it were a 
diary and edited by her father and others, has become one of the primary 
recruitment devices to teach about the Holocaust so that Zionists can 
maintain their hold over the conscience of all other world tribes and 
manipulate them to relinquish their power. It creates an empathic 
narrative that helps young people and adults to identify with the 
victims of an event that did not happen as it was purported.

The first time the 6 million-holocaust ploy was usedThe rudiments of the 
story were created at the end of the First World War when Martin Glynn, 
former mayor of New York planted the seed in a speech in which he called 
for the rescue of 6 million German Jews in danger of dying in a 
Holocaust...in 1919. After the Second World War the scenes of starving, 
weak prisoners and many dead bodies were shown to a stunned world and 
the Zionists in control of the Soviet Union began a holocaust charade in 
which 6 million people died on electrified conveyor belts, then in 
burning pits, or then in vats of boiling water, each of which were 
proven in turn to be false. The last mass murder device proposed, the 
gas chamber, has become deeply embedded in the world culture even though 
it could not have functioned safely if at all in the leaky, cold and 
damp buildings known to be at the concentration camps. Even 
mathematically, 6 million people could not be cremated in the crematoria 
that existed between 1942 and 1944. There was not evidence, but the 
stories have carried the day.

For decades the Zionists have cried, "Anti-Semite!" when someone 
questions the story, even though most of the Jews are not Semites, 
descendants not of the seed of Abraham, but a Turko-Asiatic tribe from 
Central Asia that adopted Judaism in about 800 AD. Now called the 
Ashkenazim, they were eventually scattered throughout Europe where they 
set up closed, secret societies and began their accumulation of power. 
Even though the Zionists continue their own brand of National Socialism 
in their Holy Land, many were and are Bolsheviks whose vicious, bloody 
revolution in Russia killed millions of people in establishing the first 
communist government in the world. Today Israel is a socialist, 
apartheid state that has established a pecking order with the Ashkenazim 
first, Sephardic Jews second, and Arabs last.


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jbruno@indystart.com wrote:
> On May 19, 12:46 am, Protagonist  wrote:
>> jbr...@indystart.com wrote:
>>> http://www.faits-et-documents.com/bilan_communisme/nonaggression_pact...
>> Haha! Must be true, eh?
>> Soviets were ready to attack and take over Europe!
> 
> 
> 
> PROVE IT, INSECT.
> 
> 

Here ja go, soap!

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n6p22_Bishop.html

Icebreaker: Who Started the Second World War?, by Viktor Suvorov


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oneeyewotan@gmail.com wrote:
> On 19 may, 12:22, Protagonist  wrote:
> 
>> No! It was a necessary steps to prevent the Soviets to attack Europe.
>> Hitler-Stalin pact was dead any way.
> 
> It was Hitler's idea to invade living space for new europe.

You mean the other way around!
Russians living in Europe, by taking it over!
> 
>> Stalin attacked Finland to start the encirclement of Europe, it was not
>> part of the Hitler-Stalin pact.
> 
> Finland was Stalin' part of the pact, also Estonia and some other east-
> european areas.

Finland, wasn't!
Estonia, Lithuania, Yes!
> 
>> They financed the f***ing war on both sides, Rothschild's and the
>> Warburgs. They got rich over the war!
> 
> Hmm, two jewish families were behind the WWII, really strong argument.
> LOL
> 
>> What an idiot!
> 
> LOL
> 


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oneeyewotan@gmail.com wrote:
> On 19 may, 14:03, Protagonist  wrote:
> 
>> You mean the other way around!
>> Russians living in Europe, by taking it over!
> 
> Ok, now you question everything I have read during the many years.
> Books made by academic historians all over the Europe. 

Yes, that's the common knowledge!
Do you really
> believe that Hitler actually defended europe by attacking first in
> june 1941?

That's what this Soviet Army officer wrote in his book!
Icebreaker: Who Started the Second World War? by Viktor Suvorov
http://www.fff.org/freedom/1191d.asp
As you see, in WW2 the Soviets took 1/2 of Europe (all most all) and 
stayed there for 50 years, until communism collapsed and had to give it up.


> 
> LOL
> 
>> Finland, wasn't!
>> Estonia, Lithuania, Yes!
> 
> One right, two wrong. Lithuania was Hitler's and Latvia and Estonia
> Stalin's together with Finland. Read history dude. Stalin send an
> ultimatum to Estonia and Latvia and they had to agree it. So Soviet
> Forces went there. Month later Finland said no. That's why Winter War
> began.

It didn't give the right for the Soviets to attack Finland, because 
Germany let the Fins to the Soviet sphere of influence.
Germans found out quick, Stalin was a tough negotiator and drew hard 
bargains in negotiations! Germans had to satisfy Stalins huge apatite 
with some thing.
Problem with you and others, you see things in black and white, far as 
politics goes.
Every where I read history, Germany and the Nazis were the bad evil 
guys, every one else is white. No one looks it Germany as a looser of 
WW1,  fighting an uphill battle, making big sacrifices, while major 
powers playing chess games with him.
JS


> 


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jbruno@indystart.com wrote:
> On May 19, 3:01 am, Protagonist  wrote:
>> jbr...@indystart.com wrote:
>>> On May 19, 12:46 am, Protagonist  wrote:
>>>> jbr...@indystart.com wrote:
>>>>> http://www.faits-et-documents.com/bilan_communisme/nonaggression_pact...
>>>> Haha! Must be true, eh?
>>>> Soviets were ready to attack and take over Europe!
>>> PROVE IT, INSECT.
>> Here ja go, soap!
>>
>> http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n6p22_Bishop.html
>>
>> Icebreaker: Who Started the Second World War?, by Viktor Suvorov
> 
> ROTFL! Is that the same IHR who had to pay a $90,000 for breach of
> contract?
> 

Icebreaker: Who Started the Second World War?, by Viktor Suvorov
 >
Suvorov also convincingly demonstrates that Stalin was not developing 
defensive forces along the new Soviet border with Germany, but rather as 
building up a vast and powerful offensive military force. Stalin was 
clearly Planning to enter the war by attacking Germany, and then 
bringing socialism to Central and Western Europe on the bayonets of the 
Red Army. Furthermore, all the evidence suggests — and Suvorov musters a 
vast amount of military and political evidence — that Stalin was 
planning his attack on Germany for the middle of July 1941.

http://www.fff.org/freedom/1191d.asp


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Sara Salzman wrote:
> In article <7pI3i.199088$aG1.129671@pd7urf3no>,
>  "Kurt Knoll"  wrote:
> 
>> The you go you are right at the Mark. They also say he Invaded France and 
>> Holland. The question there is should he have waited till they are standing 
>> on Germanise border. The Americans attack Iraq and jet Iraq is thousand of 
>> miles away from America. What is it they wants us to believe next.
>>
>> Kurt Knoll.
> 
> Oh yeah, Holland is KNOWN for making aggressive war, Kurt.
> 
> Do you have ANY idea how stupid you are?

Gee Sara! Just tell me , how the Germany army would've take France, 
without attacking Belgium?
You f**** ingenious!
JS


> 
>> "Emil Müller"  wrote in message 
>> news:yaH3i.3607$4Y.300@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net...
>>> "Eugene Holman"  wrote in message 
>>> news:holman-1905071827420001@c518-m3.eng.helsinki.fi...
>>>> In article , Protagonist
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> oneeyewotan@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On 19 may, 12:22, Protagonist  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> Finland was Stalin' part of the pact, also Estonia and some other 
>>>>>> east-
>>>>>> european areas.
>>>>> Finland, wasn't!
>>>>> Estonia, Lithuania, Yes!
>>>> Finland, as well as Estonia, Latvia, and the part of Poland east of
>>>> the River Bug, and eastern Romania were all consigned to the Soviet 
>>>> sphere
>>>> of interest.
>>> Who did the "consigning"?
>>> England approached the Soviet Union with the promise that Russia could 
>>> keep all those areas forever if Russia would attack Germany from the east 
>>> with England and the USA coming from the West.
>>> Hitler was apparent;y not inclined to wait for that situation to develop.
>>> And I don't believe that the Baltic people would have been very happy 
>>> about such a solution either.
>>>
>>> em
>>>
>>>> Subsequent negotiations resulted in a revision of the treaty
>>>> to include part of Lithuania as well. Note that all of these areas save
>>>> eastern Romania had been part of Czarist Russia until Lenin recognized
>>>> their claims of
>>>> independence.
>>>>
>>>> That is why Nazi Germany reacted with nothing more than a few "Ohohs!"
>>>> when the USSR attacked Finland in 1939.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Eugene Holman
>>>
> 


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Richard Warren wrote:
> "Sara Salzman"  wrote in message 
> news:catamont-74D049.15425319052007@news.giganews.com...
>> In article <7pI3i.199088$aG1.129671@pd7urf3no>,
>> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote:
>>
>>> The you go you are right at the Mark. They also say he Invaded France and
>>> Holland. The question there is should he have waited till they are 
>>> standing
>>> on Germanise border. The Americans attack Iraq and jet Iraq is thousand 
>>> of
>>> miles away from America. What is it they wants us to believe next.
>>>
>>> Kurt Knoll.
>> Oh yeah, Holland is KNOWN for making aggressive war, Kurt.
>>
>> Do you have ANY idea how stupid you are?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> He is FAR too stupid to have any idea.  Kurt is light years beyond stupid.
> 
> 

All I see is darkness in you!
  How you would measure up, soap boy?
JS



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Sara Salzman wrote:
> In article <134up6pofna8b03@corp.supernews.com>,
>  Doc Tony  wrote:
> 
>> PS and switching: So, all set for 'die Sprache' and even semi-passable 
>> French and what happens ... Lugano is in the canton of "Ticino", the 
>> mostly "I-tie" speaking part of you-know-where!
> 
> One of my favorite cookbooks has a "pasta Ticino" recipe that is a 
> complete knockout. It has a white sauce with fresh mushrooms and 
> Prosciuto ham.
> 

I suggest to add some poison mushrooms, it can enhance the flavor and 
shorten your life!
(o:
JS


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Sara Salzman wrote:
> In article <2vudncu_4fPxG9LbnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>  Protagonist  wrote:
> 
>> Sara Salzman wrote:
>>> In article <7pI3i.199088$aG1.129671@pd7urf3no>,
>>>  "Kurt Knoll"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> The you go you are right at the Mark. They also say he Invaded France and 
>>>> Holland. The question there is should he have waited till they are 
>>>> standing 
>>>> on Germanise border. The Americans attack Iraq and jet Iraq is thousand of 
>>>> miles away from America. What is it they wants us to believe next.
>>>>
>>>> Kurt Knoll.
>>> Oh yeah, Holland is KNOWN for making aggressive war, Kurt.
>>>
>>> Do you have ANY idea how stupid you are?
>> Gee Sara! Just tell me , how the Germany army would've take France, 
>> without attacking Belgium?
>> You f**** ingenious!
>> JS
>>
>>
> I didn't say anything about Belgium, Moron. Kurt Knoll said SPECIFICALLY 
> that the Germans invaded Holland so that they didn't "wait till they are 
> standing on Germanise order."
> 
> Apparently you need a course in geography. Holland is not Belgium.
> 
> Sara

It's next to it, idiot!
You know how big they are?
Size of your toilet paper!
JS

> 
> 
>>>> "Emil Müller"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:yaH3i.3607$4Y.300@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net...
>>>>> "Eugene Holman"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:holman-1905071827420001@c518-m3.eng.helsinki.fi...
>>>>>> In article , Protagonist
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> oneeyewotan@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 19 may, 12:22, Protagonist  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Finland was Stalin' part of the pact, also Estonia and some other 
>>>>>>>> east-
>>>>>>>> european areas.
>>>>>>> Finland, wasn't!
>>>>>>> Estonia, Lithuania, Yes!
>>>>>> Finland, as well as Estonia, Latvia, and the part of Poland east of
>>>>>> the River Bug, and eastern Romania were all consigned to the Soviet 
>>>>>> sphere
>>>>>> of interest.
>>>>> Who did the "consigning"?
>>>>> England approached the Soviet Union with the promise that Russia could 
>>>>> keep all those areas forever if Russia would attack Germany from the east 
>>>>> with England and the USA coming from the West.
>>>>> Hitler was apparent;y not inclined to wait for that situation to develop.
>>>>> And I don't believe that the Baltic people would have been very happy 
>>>>> about such a solution either.
>>>>>
>>>>> em
>>>>>
>>>>>> Subsequent negotiations resulted in a revision of the treaty
>>>>>> to include part of Lithuania as well. Note that all of these areas save
>>>>>> eastern Romania had been part of Czarist Russia until Lenin recognized
>>>>>> their claims of
>>>>>> independence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is why Nazi Germany reacted with nothing more than a few "Ohohs!"
>>>>>> when the USSR attacked Finland in 1939.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Eugene Holman
> 


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Kurt Knoll wrote:
> Ja Ingo mit einer nasse wie deine solltest du keine Schwierigkeit haben 
> anderen ihr Geld zu riechen.
> 
> Kurt Knoll.
> 
> "Ingo G Becker"  wrote in message 
> news:ibonc1lfsxas.16vzr3hdrjhjd.dlg@40tude.net...
>> Am Sat, 19 May 2007 10:57:47 GMT schrieb Kurt Knoll:
>>
>>> Ich wäre nicht hier wen ihr nicht so Sau falsch wäret.
>>>
>>> Kurt Knoll.
>> Ach dehalb bist du weg. Dann sind wir ja goldrichtig. 
> 
> 
Would be nice to understand, what the conversation is all about!
JS


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Sara Salzman wrote:
> In article <1179623033.550142.199660@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>  jbruno@indystart.com wrote:
> 
>> On May 19, 2:42 pm, Sara Salzman  wrote:
>>> In article <7pI3i.199088$aG1.129671@pd7urf3no>,
>>>  "Kurt Knoll"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> The you go you are right at the Mark. They also say he Invaded France and
>>>> Holland. The question there is should he have waited till they are 
>>>> standing
>>>> on Germanise border. The Americans attack Iraq and jet Iraq is thousand 
>>>> of
>>>> miles away from America. What is it they wants us to believe next.
>>>> Kurt Knoll.
>>> Oh yeah, Holland is KNOWN for making aggressive war, Kurt.
>>>
>>> Do you have ANY idea how stupid you are?
>>
>> I believe the last time they made war on anyone was in the 16th
>> century, when they rebelled against rule by Spain.
>>
>> Gosh Golly, Sara, that was only 500 years ago.
> 
> (Well done.)
> 
> And yet, the Dutch STILL don't care much for the Spanish. (I wonder why?)
> 
> When Sinterklass comes (by boat, by the way), he comes with his Moorish 
> servant, Black Pete. If you're good, Sinterklass gives you a present. If 
> you're bad, Black Pete stuffs you in his sack and takes you back to 
> Spain.
> 
> In the town I lived in (Naarden), you could still see the holes in the 
> church from the guns that the Spanish fired into it.
> 
> Of course, the Dutch like the Spanish a whole lot better than they like 
> the Germans, considering their treatment during WWII. I lived there when 
> the Berlin Wall came down, and the feeling of most Dutch was "if the 
> Germans don't want that wall anymore, we'll be glad to move it to the 
> border."
> 

Looks like, you never heard of the Maginot line?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maginot_Line

That's why the Germans attacked Belgium, even though they were neutral.
French want it to put troops in Belgium, in case the Germans go around 
the Maginot line, but Belgium refused, hoping staying neutral, avoiding 
any involvement in the French/German war.
JS




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Sara Salzman wrote:
> In article <2vWdnQJ-XdaOK9LbnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>  Protagonist  wrote:
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>> Sara Salzman wrote:
>>> In article <1179623033.550142.199660@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>>>  jbruno@indystart.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On May 19, 2:42 pm, Sara Salzman  wrote:
>>>>> In article <7pI3i.199088$aG1.129671@pd7urf3no>,
>>>>>  "Kurt Knoll"  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The you go you are right at the Mark. They also say he Invaded France and
>>>>>> Holland. The question there is should he have waited till they are 
>>>>>> standing
>>>>>> on Germanise border. The Americans attack Iraq and jet Iraq is thousand 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> miles away from America. What is it they wants us to believe next.
>>>>>> Kurt Knoll.
>>>>> Oh yeah, Holland is KNOWN for making aggressive war, Kurt.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have ANY idea how stupid you are?
>>>> I believe the last time they made war on anyone was in the 16th
>>>> century, when they rebelled against rule by Spain.
>>>>
>>>> Gosh Golly, Sara, that was only 500 years ago.
>>> (Well done.)
>>>
>>> And yet, the Dutch STILL don't care much for the Spanish. (I wonder why?)
>>>
>>> When Sinterklass comes (by boat, by the way), he comes with his Moorish 
>>> servant, Black Pete. If you're good, Sinterklass gives you a present. If 
>>> you're bad, Black Pete stuffs you in his sack and takes you back to 
>>> Spain.
>>>
>>> In the town I lived in (Naarden), you could still see the holes in the 
>>> church from the guns that the Spanish fired into it.
>>>
>>> Of course, the Dutch like the Spanish a whole lot better than they like 
>>> the Germans, considering their treatment during WWII. I lived there when 
>>> the Berlin Wall came down, and the feeling of most Dutch was "if the 
>>> Germans don't want that wall anymore, we'll be glad to move it to the 
>>> border."
>>>
>> Looks like, you never heard of the Maginot line?
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maginot_Line
>>
>> That's why the Germans attacked Belgium, even though they were neutral.
>> French want it to put troops in Belgium, in case the Germans go around 
>> the Maginot line, but Belgium refused, hoping staying neutral, avoiding 
>> any involvement in the French/German war.
>> JS
> 
> NO ONE WAS TALKING ABOUT BELGIUM, MORON. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE 
> NETHERLANDS.
> 
> They ARE two different countries, you know. Or, apparently you do not 
> know, since you continue to talk about Belgium, when we were talking 
> about Holland.
> 

Which one is bigger or smaller then a postage stamp? (o:
JS


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oneeyewotan@gmail.com wrote:
> On 19may, 20:43, Protagonist  wrote:
> 
>> That's what this Soviet Army officer wrote in his book!
> 
> I know. But there are also opposite arguments as well, you trust too
> much on one man'd claims. Even though he has some strong viewpoints
> there is no real truth had a Stalin a plan to attck in summer 1941 or
> not.
> 
>> Every where I read history, Germany and the Nazis were the bad evil
>> guys, every one else is white.
> 
> Nazi-Germany started the war, live with it. They invaded Poland,
> France, Denmark, Norway and the started extremely cruel race-war
> against Sovient Union.

Right! You idealistic idiot, Zionist jew!
Who took the other half of Poland than attacking Finland?


With that reputation I don't wonder why nazis
> got the bad guy stigma.
> 
>> No one looks it Germany as a looser of
>> WW1
> 
> Imperial Germany declared war against France and UK. Like all big
> european countries did.

Here you go again, forgetting Germany was under economical blocked by 
England and France. People were starving in Europe, while in the US food 
was dumped into the ocean to keep prices from falling.
Also, Serb Jew killed Franz Ferdinand, Archduke of Austria, while 
visiting Serbia!
That's how WW1 started. They were set-up by Russians, Serbs and the French.
But you are ignorant about every thing, Zionist idiot.

  Opposing forces were stronger, live with it.
> They took their chance and lost. And don't whine about Versailles
> peace pact.

I whine about Versailles, because I'm Hungarian and Hungary lost 70% of 
it's 1000 years old land and all most 1/2 it's population.
If it's up to up to the French, Hungary would've seize to exist.
But to you , it's OK, long as you fill your valet.

  Imperial Germany forced Soviet-Russia to surrender with
> 0equal harsh rules in march 1918..

Soviet-Russia (o:? You mean the Czar, who was friend and allied with the 
French.
> 
>> fighting an uphill battle, making big sacrifices, while major
>> powers playing chess games with him.
> 
> Well, in december 1941 Hitler declared war on USA,
Well, here you go, lack of history knowledge. There things preceded this 
event, like the change of the guards in Iceland from British to 
American. Hitler declared war on the US only after Perl Harbor.
You are ignoring underlying facts.

  and same time his
> troops suffered major losses on the eastern front. 

What troops lost heavy looses in 1941?

Blame him, a man
> who didn't see the reality and thought he can declare war to rest of
> the world.

Why not? When he's attacked from all sides and had the power.
> 
> I see your point. Communism = jews = attack. 3rd Reich the heroic
> defender. Your anti-semitism is obvious.
> 

All I can say, you are obsessed about, who declared war first.
Don't mean any thing, just formality!
Small country, Hungary declared war on the US and congress just 6 months 
later picked up the issue. Insignificant.
US been fighting limited wars in the past and never declaring war on the 
opposing country.
JS


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Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
> In article ,
> Leading Revisionist Scholar Kurt Knoll  wrote:
>> Interesting McVay why don't you show us a clear picture and technical 
>> drawing of you mysterious Gas wagon. And tell us why there was non on 
>> display in the Nuremberg trial.
> 
> If Leading Revisionist Scholar Knoll, the Blithering Idiot of British Columbia,
> can refute the evidence presented in Beer's document, he is invited to do so.
> 
> He can't, of course, and he won't.
> 
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps/chelmno/images/chelmnovan.jpg
> 
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps/chelmno/burmeister-testimony.kulmhof
> 
> By the way, Leading Revisionist Scholar Knoll, have you contacted the IFZ yet
> and told them that their information about the gas chamber at Dachau is a lie?
> 
> No? Gee, why not, LRS Knoll?
> 

Germans killed 6 million with that, McVay?
You are full of BS, Zionist McVay!
JS



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Must be true, Zionist McVay!
JS


Ken McVay wrote:
> [Follow-ups set]
> 
> May 21
> 
> 1935
> 
> The "Military Service Act" requires "Aryan descent" as a prerequisite
> for military service. (Ruerup, 111)
> 
> 1944
> 
> A transport of 507 Jews from Malines transit camp (Belgium), which left on May 
> 19, and a transport of 453 Jews from Westerbork transit camp (the
> Netherlands) arrive at Birkenau. Of the Westerbork
> transport, 350 are registered for labor service while 103
> are gassed. On the same day, a transport with 122 male
> and 124 female Dutch, German, and stateless Roma and
> Sinti arrive at Birkenau from Vught concentration camp in the Netherlands. 
> (USHMM 1994, 43)
> 
> 
>                          Work Cited
> 
> Ruerup, Reinhard, Ed., trans. By Werner T. Angress. Topography of
>    Terror. Berliner Festspiele GmbH, Berlin: 1987
>                               
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
> Years Ago: Darkness Before Dawn: Days of Remembrance, April
> 3-10, 1994. Washington, D.C.: 1994
> 


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Da killing centers?
What killing centers, Zionist McVay?
Were they part of da Auschwitz 4 milli-million or not?
JS



Ken McVay wrote:
> [Follow-ups set]
> 
> 1943
> ----
> 
> A decree is published in Sofia outlining a
> plan to exile 25,000 Sofia Jews to outlying provinces.
> Within twelve days, 19,153 Jews are driven from the
> Bulgarian capital to the provinces. Ironically, this move
> helps save Bulgaria's Jews from deportation to the
> killing centers. (USHMM 1993, 34)
> 
> 
>                        Work Cited
>                             
> 
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
> Years Ago: Revolt Amid the Darkness: Days of Remembrance,
> April 18-25, 1993. Washington, D.C.: 1993


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Joe wrote:
> On May 21, 9:35 pm, Protagonist  wrote:
>> Da killing centers?
>> What killing centers, Zionist McVay?
> 
> 
> How do you know he's a Zionist? Where has he ever advocated support
> for Israel?


I can smell it through my LAN line!
JS


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Zionist lies!
He, Zionist McVay?
JS


Ken McVay wrote:
> [Follow-ups set]
> 
> 1943
> ----
> 
> Josef Mengele, a physician and SS officer,
> arrives in Auschwitz after being promoted to the position
> of Hauptsturmfuehrer (captain). Soon after his arrival,
> he begins pseudoscientific experiments, working in
> conjunction with German geneticist Otmar von Verschuer
> under the sponsorship of the German Research Foundation.
> By November 1944 Mengele will have participated in at
> least seventy-four "selections," choosing who among the
> Jews arriving at Auschwitz shall live and who shall die, and will
> conduct genetic experiments on twins. (USHMM 1993, 34)
> 
> 1944
> ----
> 
> Eichmann's office in Budapest reports that 116,000 Hungarian
> Jews have already been deported, with another 200,00
> awaiting transport, mostly in Carpatho-Ruthenia and
> Transylvania. Altogether, Eichmann's organization hopes to
> arrange for the deportation of about one million Jews by
> the end of the operation (Aktion), with only about eighty
> thousand able-bodied Jews to be left in Hungary to work
> for the Hungarian armaments industry. (USHMM 1994, 44)
> 
> A transport of 859 prisoners arrives at Stutthof
> concentration camp from Pawiak prison in Warsaw. (Ibid.)
> 
> 
>                        Work Cited
>                             
> 
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
> Years Ago: Revolt Amid the Darkness: Days of Remembrance,
> April 18-25, 1993. Washington, D.C.: 1993
> 
>                               
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
> Years Ago: Darkness Before Dawn: Days of Remembrance, April
> 3-10, 1994. Washington, D.C.: 1994


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Very nice! Silverstein (Jew) only lost his original $30 million deposit, 
but made 4.5  billion on insurance money, it makes him the new owner of 
the newly built Freedom Tower.
JS


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ahfwZNvhLswU&refer=home#

Silverstein, Insurers Reach $2 Billion WTC Settlement (Update5)

By David M. Levitt

May 23 (Bloomberg) -- Developer Larry Silverstein and seven insurance 
companies agreed to a $2 billion settlement to end an almost six-year 
dispute over the value of the insurance policies covering the World 
Trade Center.

New York Governor Eliot Spitzer and Insurance Superintendent Eric 
Dinallo announced the settlement at a news conference in lower 
Manhattan. The agreement will bring to about $4.55 billion the total 
insurance proceeds Silverstein and the Port Authority of New York and 
New Jersey will receive.

Silverstein, the leaseholder on the World Trade Center, had battled with 
insurance companies in federal court since a month after the Sept. 11, 
2001, terrorist attacks over how much the policies were worth. The 
settlement gives the developer and the Port Authority, the site's owner, 
the cash to help rebuild the 16- acre property. The insurers have 
already paid about $2.55 billion.

``This is a monumentally important step forward,'' Spitzer said at the 
press conference. ``The essential fact is that there is now $2 billion 
net present value available for construction.''

The seven insurers in the settlement are Travelers Cos., Zurich American 
Insurance Co., Swiss Reinsurance Co., Employers Insurance Company of 
Wausau, Allianz Global Risks U.S. Insurance Co., Industrial Risk 
Insurers and Royal Indemnity Co., Spitzer said in the statement.

`Fair' Settlement

St. Paul, Minnesota-based Travelers is the second-largest U.S. 
commercial insurer. Swiss Reinsurance, based in Zurich, is the world's 
biggest reinsurer. Allianz, based in Munich, is Europe's largest insurer.

The accord ``fairly and conclusively resolves all disputes involving 
Swiss Re's WTC coverage,'' Roger Ferguson Jr., chairman of Swiss Re 
America Holding Corp., said in a statement. The deal will finance the 
``rebirth of lower Manhattan,'' he said.

``Travelers has been absolutely committed to the rebuilding effort at 
the World Trade Center site and we are pleased that the remaining 
questions have been resolved,'' Marlene Ibsen, a spokeswoman for the 
company.

Though the settlement is close to the maximum potential payout, ``for us 
the benefit lies in the fact that we have certainty now,'' said Andreas 
Shell, Allianz claims crisis coordinator, in an interview. ``We are able 
to conclude something that has been going on for over five and a half 
years, which puts a strain on an organization.''

`No Precedent Set'

Shell said he wasn't worried that the case had set a precedent for 
policyholders to receive more insurance than they paid for. The trade 
center attacks were ``a very unique experience,'' he said. ``There is no 
precedent set.''

The insurer was responsible for two policies totaling $433 million.

Keith Owens, a spokesman for Zurich, which paid a total of $95.3 million 
in connection with the case, said in a written statement that ``it 
always has been our position that we would pay every dollar owed under 
our contracts.''

Spitzer compared the insurance dispute to a Stanley Cup playoff hockey 
series in which the two sides play a ``very hard match'' and ``at the 
end of the series they always shake hands and move on.''

Silverstein, 75, had been seeking $7 billion from the insurers, double 
the limit of his policy, arguing that the two hijacked planes that 
crashed into the twin towers represented two attacks instead of one.

Jury Decisions

In 2004, two federal juries said Silverstein was entitled to a maximum 
of $4.68 billion in insurance payments, said Andrew Mais, a state 
Insurance department spokesman. The settlement means Silverstein's 
insurers are obligated to pay 97.2 percent of that maximum, he said.

In separate trials, federal juries found in 2004 that 10 of his 
insurers, including Swiss Re and a Lloyds of London syndicate, owed 
Silverstein only one payment, based on restrictive language in 
preliminary contracts they signed. Nine more insurers who had agreed to 
more vague policy language, including St. Paul Travelers, were found to 
owe double their policy limits.

In most cases, the contracts were preliminary because Silverstein had 
leased the trade center from the Port Authority just six weeks before 
the attacks and negotiations were still ongoing.

Litigation Ended

The federal litigation had continued for almost two more years as the 
two sides deliberated over the value of the 10-million square-foot 
office complex at the time of its destruction. The insurers who settled 
today had reserved the right to appeal the earlier jury decisions. The 
settlement will end all litigation on the issue, Spitzer said.

In a separate lawsuit in state court, Silverstein and the Port Authority 
last year sued Allianz AG and six insurers to force them to make 
payments directly to the bistate agency. That case arose after 
Silverstein ceded control of the Freedom Tower, the centerpiece of 
Ground Zero redevelopment, to the authority, in return for reduced rent 
payments.

Allianz and the other companies wanted the court to determine whether 
they were obligated to pay the authority, since their contracts were 
with Silverstein.

Silverstein remains in control of three other skyscrapers planned for 
the site, with 6.2 million square feet of space.

The settlement will help assure that the project is completed on time, 
Silverstein said. The Freedom Tower will be done in 2001, as will Three 
and Four World Trade Center, with Two World Trade Center completed the 
following year, he said.

``The train is now moving on down the track,'' Silverstein said. ``The 
World Trade Center is on its way to being rebuilt.''

The federal case was SR International Business Insurance Co. Ltd. v 
World Trade Center Properties LLC et al, 01-CIV-9291.

To contact the reporter on this story: David M. Levitt in New York at 
dlevitt@bloomberg.net .
Last Updated: May 23, 2007 19:13 EDT


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Haha! You make up this stuff?
JS

 >>Their I.G. Farben Industry also assured Hitler of
reliable supplies of glycerine for munitions from a source which
is seldom mentioned in this connection- the rendering of fat from
Concentration Camp victims who died in the infamous ovens! <<

rem460@aol.com wrote:
> 4>
>           World War II INSTIGATED by the ROCKEFELLERS
> 
> The following seven paragraphs are quoted from The Dr. Beter Audio
> Letter #1, which can be found in ASCII text at this web page:
> http://www.etext.org/Politics/Beter.Audio.Letter/dbal01 .
> 
>      "...Nelson Rockefeller also stepped into active planning for
> World War II.  The war was to be used both to take over the Saudi
> Arabian oil interests of Great Britain and also to crush Japan,
> which was trying to open up vast Chinese oil fields that the
> Rockefeller interests had suppressed for years for monopolistic
> purposes.  In his very first Cabinet meeting in 1933, Roosevelt
> reportedly startled everyone by declaring that he wanted to be a
> wartime president and wondered if a war with Japan could somehow
> be arranged.  But he had to be patient.  It took eight years for
> the Rockefeller-financed "Institute of Pacific Relations" to give
> him his wish.
> 
>      "The matter of Saudi Arabia was a holdover from World War I
> which the Rockefellers had used to their own ends.  Rockefeller
> support behind the scenes made Germany such a threat to Britain
> that the British concluded the Allies could not win World War I
> without American help.  As the price for an American intervention,
> the Rockefellers extracted a deal from the British turning over
> the Saudi Arabian oil concessions to them to exploit.  In return,
> the Rockefellers withdrew support from the Kaiser and quickly
> arranged through Woodrow Wilson, the first president to be a
> complete puppet of the Rockefellers, to have American soldiers
> sent to fight "The War to End All Wars."  The Saudi Arabian oil
> concessions thus cost the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests
> nothing--but they cost America a quarter of a million lives and a
> huge national debt!
> 
>      "But not satisfied with merely the Saudi Arabian oil
> concessions, the Rockefellers also proceeded after the first World
> War to wrestle control of the German chemical, dye, drug, and dope
> companies away from the British, merging them in 1926 into the
> world-wide cartel known as the I.G. Farben Industry, AG. This so
> infuriated Churchill and the British that they used boycott
> tactics to block the Rockefellers from actually developing the
> Saudi Arabian oil, refusing to grant visas to Standard Oil
> employees, turning down clearances to ships trying to carry needed
> supplies and the like.  The Rockefellers concluded that a second
> World War would be just the right medicine to cure Great Britain's
> embargo on Saudi Arabia.  The German war machine which they had
> supported in World War I had produced a cooperative British
> attitude before, and it would presumably do so again.  A man by
> the name of Adolf Hitler, who at the time was a minor factor in
> Germany, was selected for this purpose and was brought to power
> through the support of the Rockefeller-controlled I.G. Farben
> industries and other German-controlled industries of the
> Rockefeller family.  Nelson Rockefeller observed Hitler closely
> during his world-wide honeymoon trip mentioned earlier and
> participated in Hitler's rise to power and the strengthening of
> Nazi Germany, whose rise to power has always been a puzzling
> phenomenon to most observers.
> 
>      "In 1929 the Rockefeller Standard Oil of New Jersey, now
> known as Exxon, made a cartel agreement with the Rockefellers'
> I.G. Farben    Industry to avoid destructive competition in one
> another's markets.  The Rockefellers supplied Hitler with great
> reserves of petroleum products without which war could not have
> been waged. Their I.G. Farben Industry also assured Hitler of
> reliable supplies of glycerine for munitions from a source which
> is seldom mentioned in this connection- the rendering of fat from
> Concentration Camp victims who died in the infamous ovens!  The
> cartel arrangement operated completely to the benefit of Germany--
> and completely to the detriment of the United States, as was
> brought out in devastating detail by the hearings held by Senator
> Harry S. Truman during the first half of 1942.  As documented in
> those hearings, the Rockefeller Standard Oil treated its
> agreements with the Rockefellers' I.G. Farben Industry as taking
> precedence over any considerations of patriotism or duty to
> America; and continued to block all efforts to make synthetic
> rubber and other critical war supplies available even after we
> were at war.  Thus the Nazi war machine of Adolf Hitler was built
> up to provide the menace to Britain which the Rockefellers desired
> as a means of opening up the Saudi Arabian oil concessions
> permanently to themselves.
> 
>      "The strategy would be as in World War I--to get Britain on
> the ropes, extract the desired concessions, and then engineer
> America's entry into the war to save Britain.  But if there was
> one thing Americans did not want to do, it was to go to war again.
> Isolationist sentiment was strong, therefore an attack on America
> would have to be arranged.  Nelson Rockefeller made sure that
> President Roosevelt's preparations for the war were coordinated
> precisely with the Rockefeller machinations overseas, including
> Hitler's build-up on the one hand and the plotting of the Pearl
> Harbor attack on the other.
> 
>      "The Pearl Harbor attack was the crowning achievement of the
> "Institute of Pacific Relations" (or IPR) which was heavily
> financed by the Rockefellers and their tax-exempt foundations and
> which was dominated by Nelson's brother John D. Rockefeller III.
> As brought out later in the Congressional investigation of the
> IPR, John D. Rockefeller III participated in the activities of
> Edward C. Carter, IPR secretary, in a hideaway disguised as a barn
> at Lee, Massachusetts.  It was there that the groundwork was laid
> for engineering the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.  The
> existence of the Germany-Italy-Japan Axis meant that we would
> automatically be at war with Germany, which was menacing Britain
> as soon as we were attacked by Japan.
> 
>      "Once Churchill and the British saw after Dunkirk that they
> were doomed without American help, a deal was made to open up the
> Saudi Arabian oil concessions to the Rockefellers.  The Pearl
> Harbor disaster was then arranged in order to galvanize Americans
> into support for going into war.  Needed defenses were denied to
> the Naval Commanders at Pearl Harbor.  The American warships at
> Pearl Harbor were all brought in and bottled up within the harbor
> like sitting ducks in spite of growing tensions with Japan and
> even rumors of imminent attack.  Finally when the attack itself
> came, advanced warnings from several sources were all ignored--
> suppressed in Washington!  The actual day and hour of the attack
> was known to President Roosevelt and his boss Nelson Rockefeller
> one week ahead of time, and nothing was done but to sit tight and
> make sure that the Pearl Harbor attack occurred as planned...."
> 
> 
>                           THE DR. BETER AUDIO-LETTERS
> 
>                ALL 80 Dr. Beter Audio-Letters (about 50 KB each)
>           have been digitized into ASCII by Jon B. Volkoff and are
>           available at this web site:
> 
>                http://www.etext.org/Politics/Beter.Audio.Letter .
> 
>                I especially recommend Audio-Letters #64, 74, 40,
>           53, 54, 55, 45, 46, 47, 48, 78, 79, and 80.
> 
>                Audio-Letter #64 is about the "STS-1 DISASTER/
>           /COVERUP" !
> 
>                Audio-Letter #74 is about the "SECRET PURPOSE of
>           the Falklands War", and includes IN-VISIBILITY
>           Technology and the DETONATION of a Russian NEUTRON BOMB !
> 
>                Audio-Letter #40 is about the "MILITARY PURPOSE of
>           the Jonestown Mass-MURDER" !
> 
> See also: The Book "RULE BY SECRECY", by Jim Marrs, 2000,
>           http://members.aol.com/rem460/galacfed.txt ,
>           http://members.aol.com/rem460/sn091501.txt ,
>           http://members.aol.com/rem460/sn031902.txt ,
>           http://members.aol.com/rem460/moonmars.txt ,
>           http://members.aol.com/rem460/zionists.txt ,
>           http://members.aol.com/rem547/starwars.htm .
> 
>                                  Robert E. McElwaine
>                           http://members.aol.com/rem547 PLUS
>                           http://members.aol.com/rem460
>                           Preserve BOTH on CD-R and PRINT-OUTS
> 
> P.S.: PASS IT ON !
> 
> 
> "EVERYTHING you know is WRONG."
> "The Truth IS STRANGER than fiction."
> "The Truth is ALWAYS the FIRST CASUALTY OF WAR."
> "OFFICIAL LIES are ALWAYS the BIGGEST LIES OF ALL."
> "The more things change, the more they STAY THE SAME."
>>
>>
> 


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgPsUytsLmY&mode=related&search=


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Kennedy's limo had a removable cap, but because the nice sunny day in 
Dallas, in the last minute, they decided not to mount it on the car!
So, there are lot of coincidences, that made the assassination possible.
JS


Ed Conrad wrote:
> < 
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> < 
> http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=jfk+assassination&hl=en 
> < 
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Extreme Jewish supremacist Robert Zoellick appointed to high post
by David Duke

Ultra Jewish Supremacist-Neocon Robert Zoellick, the curent U.S. Trade 
Representative, has now been appointed to Deputy Secretary of State.

It makes perfect sense that this Israel-firster has been promoted to one 
of the highest posts in the Federal Government. The interesting aspect 
is that the media consistently covers up for political figures who 
support policies harmful to America, but are always in favor of those 
polticians who always look out for Israel’s interests.

The Neocons have of course been the driving force behind the disastrous 
Iraq War and occupation. From the beginning the war was not about 
“weapons of mass destruction.” That was nothing more than a lying 
excuse. It was not about oil, for Saddam offered to sell us all the oil 
we needed and at discount prices. In fact, the war caused oil prices to 
skyrocket and therefore cost America and Europe trillions of additional 
dollars in energy costs! From the start the war was about one thing, the 
one thing that the chief Jewish architects of the war, Perle and 
Wolfowitz, themselves stated again and again, the need to secure 
Israel’s Eastern flank. The war was and is good for Israel, but very bad 
for America.

The Jewish Neocons also have been at the lead in destroying America’s 
economic base. Robert Zoellick, for instance, has been composing free 
trade agreements with numerous Third World nations. Most recently, he 
authored the CAFTA accord, which has yet to pass congress, which calls 
for free trade to all the nations of Central America, a move that will 
cost hundreds of thousands of American jobs and destroy tens of 
thousands of American businesses. The politicians wanted to get the 
elections over before they signed that piece of treason.

It is no accident that Robert Zoellick was in line with the loudest 
chicken-hawks in promoting the Iraq War, and at the same tme acted to 
increase our unemployment lines in America. Robert Zoellick has been 
instrumental in fostering outsourcing of American jobs to the Third 
World. He has been fostering more trade with Red China (and yes, it is 
still RED).

Bush has appointed a Deputy Secretary of State who serves the Israeli 
State First, and appointed an Attorney General who has supported torture 
of prisoners, a la the Israeli method.

Robert Zoellick’s appointment is symbolic of the Zionist hold over the 
govenment of the United States
http://www.davidduke.com/index.php?p=203


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Richard Warren wrote:

>> It is no accident that Robert Zoellick was in line with the loudest 
>> chicken-hawks in promoting the Iraq War, and at the same tme acted to 
>> increase our unemployment lines in America. Robert Zoellick has been 
>> instrumental in fostering outsourcing of American jobs to the Third World. 
>> He has been fostering more trade with Red China (and yes, it is still 
>> RED).
>>
>> Bush has appointed a Deputy Secretary of State who serves the Israeli 
>> State First, and appointed an Attorney General who has supported torture 
>> of prisoners, a la the Israeli method.
>>
>> Robert Zoellick’s appointment is symbolic of the Zionist hold over the 
>> govenment of the United States
>> http://www.davidduke.com/index.php?p=203
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Just out of curiosity - who do you hate more, jews or blacks? 

I don't hate any one, merely posting the facts!
Seems, every time a greasy job gets open, like presidency of World bank 
or Fed. reserve, a Super Jew gets appointed.
Shows, who's running the US and World money system.
JS




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Eugene Holman wrote:
> In article , Protagonist
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> You sound like you would like to see the playing field tilted against Jews
> so that plain-vanilla whites and possibly others could get a bigger piece
> of the action. But you hesitate to demand affirmative action or quotas.
> 
> Regards,
> Eugene Holman

Only, some 18 million Jew waisting Oxygen in this world, but apparently 
they have their hand in every large Cookie jar!
JS



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Richard Warren wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
> news:DN6dnUfvjqeZjsPbnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Richard Warren wrote:
>>
>>>> It is no accident that Robert Zoellick was in line with the loudest 
>>>> chicken-hawks in promoting the Iraq War, and at the same tme acted to 
>>>> increase our unemployment lines in America. Robert Zoellick has been 
>>>> instrumental in fostering outsourcing of American jobs to the Third 
>>>> World. He has been fostering more trade with Red China (and yes, it is 
>>>> still RED).
>>>>
>>>> Bush has appointed a Deputy Secretary of State who serves the Israeli 
>>>> State First, and appointed an Attorney General who has supported torture 
>>>> of prisoners, a la the Israeli method.
>>>>
>>>> Robert Zoellick’s appointment is symbolic of the Zionist hold over the 
>>>> govenment of the United States
>>>> http://www.davidduke.com/index.php?p=203
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just out of curiosity - who do you hate more, jews or blacks?
>> I don't hate any one, merely posting the facts!
>> Seems, every time a greasy job gets open, like presidency of World bank or 
>> Fed. reserve, a Super Jew gets appointed.
>> Shows, who's running the US and World money system.
>> JS
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Zoellick is not a jew, moron. 

Maybe this help, retard!

http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=119&a=2166
 >>Comments: The two recent former heads of the World Bank have Jewish 
backgrounds (James Wolfensohn, Paul Wolfowitz), now another ultra-neocon 
with Jewish ancestry, Robert Zoellick,  is on the verge of being 
appointed to run the disgraced institution. Why individuals of Jewish 
origins are predominantly being put in charge of the World Bank eludes 
us at The Intelligence Daily. We really don't know what is goin on :)

In addition, the former and the current chairman of the Federal Reserve 
Bank of America, Alan Greenspan and Ben Bernanke, respectively, are also 
of Jewish ancestry.<<



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Sara Salzman wrote:
> In article <9Ep7i.8221$2v5.1666@trndny06>,
>  "Richard Warren"  wrote:
> 
>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>> news:DN6dnUfvjqeZjsPbnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Richard Warren wrote:
>>>
>>>>> It is no accident that Robert Zoellick was in line with the loudest 
>>>>> chicken-hawks in promoting the Iraq War, and at the same tme acted to 
>>>>> increase our unemployment lines in America. Robert Zoellick has been 
>>>>> instrumental in fostering outsourcing of American jobs to the Third 
>>>>> World. He has been fostering more trade with Red China (and yes, it is 
>>>>> still RED).
>>>>>
>>>>> Bush has appointed a Deputy Secretary of State who serves the Israeli 
>>>>> State First, and appointed an Attorney General who has supported torture 
>>>>> of prisoners, a la the Israeli method.
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert Zoellick’s appointment is symbolic of the Zionist hold over the 
>>>>> govenment of the United States
>>>>> http://www.davidduke.com/index.php?p=203
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just out of curiosity - who do you hate more, jews or blacks?
>>> I don't hate any one, merely posting the facts!
>>> Seems, every time a greasy job gets open, like presidency of World bank or 
>>> Fed. reserve, a Super Jew gets appointed.
>>> Shows, who's running the US and World money system.
>>> JS
>>
>>
>>
>> Zoellick is not a jew, moron. 
> 
> But david Duke SAYS he is... and we ALL know how honest David Duke is!
> 
> Sara
> 

I'm sure he knows more than you, Sara Da Nobody!

Wolfowitz was a spy for Israel!
 >>Back in 1978, Wolfowitz was under investigation, as an official of 
the U.S. Arms Control & Disarmament Agency, for having passed a 
classified U.S. document to an Israeli government official.<<

http://www.inteldaily.com/print.php?a=1831
JS



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http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/rnr/340803358.html


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Shhh! Even named for the Nobel Peace Prize!

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/03/14/sendler-poland.html

Poland honours woman, 97, for saving Jewish children from Nazis
Last Updated: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 | 11:32 AM ET
CBC News

A 97-year-old woman credited with saving Jewish children during the 
Holocaust is a hero who deserves the Nobel Peace Prize, Poland's 
president said Wednesday during a ceremony to honour Irena Sendler.

Sendler, who lives in a nursing home in Warsaw, was too frail to attend 
the special session of the Polish Senate, which unanimously approved a 
resolution honouring her and the underground Council for Assisting Jews, 
known as Zegota.

The group's members, mostly Roman Catholics, risked their lives during 
the operation in Nazi-occupied Poland, where concealing Jews was 
punishable by death.

Sendler was cited for organizing the "rescue of the most defenceless 
victims of the Nazi ideology — the Jewish children."

Polish President Lech Kaczynski called Sendler a "great hero who can be 
justly named for the Nobel Peace Prize."

"I think she's a great lady, very courageous, and I think she's a model 
for the whole international community," Israeli Ambassador David Peleg 
said after the ceremony. "I think that her courage is a very special one."
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Sendler used her position in Warsaw's Social Welfare Department to 
frequently visit the city's ghetto, delivering clothing, medicine and 
money to Jews. Leading a team of about 20, she helped smuggle 2,500 
Jewish children out of the ghetto, placing them with Polish families, 
convents or orphanages.

She wrote their names, along with the names of their parents, in small 
jars and buried them in the backyards of friends' houses in the hope the 
children could one day be reunited with their families.

Sendler was captured in 1943 and tortured by the Nazis at Warsaw's 
Pawiak prison, but didn't give any information to her captors. On the 
day she was to be executed, her colleagues bribed a Nazi guard and she 
was freed. Officially, she was listed on public bulletin boards as among 
those executed and she lived in hiding for the rest of the Nazi 
occupation of Poland.

In 1965, Israel's Yad Vashem Holocaust Memorial awarded her one of its 
first medals for non-Jews who risked their lives to save Jews during the 
Holocaust, giving her the title "Righteous Among the Nations." She 
actually received the honour in 1983, after Poland's Communist 
authorities finally agreed to allow her to travel abroad.


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RAGLANDMYCOOL@AOL.COM wrote:
> On May 31, 1:13 am, Protagonist  wrote:
>> Shhh! Even named for the Nobel Peace Prize!
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/03/14/sendler-poland.html
>>
>> Poland honours woman, 97, for saving Jewish children from Nazis
>> Last Updated: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 | 11:32 AM ET
>> CBC News
>>
>> A 97-year-old woman credited with saving Jewish children during the
>> Holocaust is a hero who deserves the Nobel Peace Prize, Poland's
>> president said Wednesday during a ceremony to honour Irena Sendler.
> 
> 
> 
> A Nobel Prize is always politicized to some exist. What do you find
> incorrect with the
> "story.
> 
> Michael Ragland
> 

Lot of BS! She probably did it for money!
Also, more than 60 years past, they still digging up BS stories like 
this, because of the Jews and Poland sucking up to the US!!
JS




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Eugene Holman wrote:
> In article <1180603339.865114.308850@q66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> RAGLANDMYCOOL@AOL.COM wrote:
> 
> 
>> A Nobel Prize is always politicized to some exist. What do you find
>> incorrect with the
>> "story.
> 
> Since Protagonist contends that the Holocaust is a myth, stories about
> people saving children from the mythical Holocuast can only be myths about
> myths: metamyths.
> 
> Since there is no physical evidence or smoking gun documenting the alleged
> exploits of Irena Sendler, there is, he would argue, nothing to preclude
> its all being yet another vicious piece of anti-Nazi propaganda intended
> to make the Germans, Hitler, and the Third Reich look bad.
> 
> Regards,
> Eugene Holman

Saved from what, moron?
JS


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Eugene Holman wrote:
> In article , Protagonist
>  wrote:
> 
>> Eugene Holman wrote:
>>> In article <1180603339.865114.308850@q66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>>> RAGLANDMYCOOL@AOL.COM wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>> A Nobel Prize is always politicized to some exist. What do you find
>>>> incorrect with the
>>>> "story.
>>> Since Protagonist contends that the Holocaust is a myth, stories about
>>> people saving children from the mythical Holocuast can only be myths about
>>> myths: metamyths.
>>>
>>> Since there is no physical evidence or smoking gun documenting the alleged
>>> exploits of Irena Sendler, there is, he would argue, nothing to preclude
>>> its all being yet another vicious piece of anti-Nazi propaganda intended
>>> to make the Germans, Hitler, and the Third Reich look bad.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Eugene Holman
>> Saved from what, moron?
> 
> Saved from whatever it was that killed 3,000,000 out of 3,300,000 Polish
> Jews between 1939 and 1945, kedves barátom.
> 
> Regards,
> Eugene Holman

That's how the 4 million Auschwitz figure was added up, which turned out 
to be the biggest lie of the XX-th century?
I bet, if a few millions of your Negro type would've die there, no one 
would give a crap, he, Holman?
Like in Rwanda!
McVay would be out of business, back to pumping gas!
JS


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Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
> In article ,
> Protagonist   wrote:
>> Eugene Holman wrote:
>>> In article <1180603339.865114.308850@q66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>>> RAGLANDMYCOOL@AOL.COM wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>> A Nobel Prize is always politicized to some exist. What do you find
>>>> incorrect with the
>>>> "story.
>>> Since Protagonist contends that the Holocaust is a myth, stories about
>>> people saving children from the mythical Holocuast can only be myths about
>>> myths: metamyths.
>>>
>>> Since there is no physical evidence or smoking gun documenting the alleged
>>> exploits of Irena Sendler, there is, he would argue, nothing to preclude
>>> its all being yet another vicious piece of anti-Nazi propaganda intended
>>> to make the Germans, Hitler, and the Third Reich look bad.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Eugene Holman
>> Saved from what, moron?
> 
> Hatemongers like you, Szaki.
> 

Don't see any hate mongering in telling Da TRUTH!
That's how it appears for a lier like you!
JS


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TurkeyBoy wrote:
> Is McVay negotiating for a raise?
> 

His PC protesting for to many BS McVay postings, so crashed his script 
program! (o:
JS


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z wrote:
> Another Master Race member is heard from. Apointy, indeed. I still
> marvel how you guys could lose the war with that kind of brainpower.
> 
> On May 30, 8:12 pm, Protagonist  wrote:
> 

Too many cockroaches, not enough Zyklon-B.
(o:
JS



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