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Why the 60 years waiting?
When they will open the Soviet gulags archive or talk about the US 
concentration camps for Jap-Americans, eh?
JS


Lieken wrote:
> http://abcnews. go.com/Internati onal/wireStory?
> id=2748156&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds031 2
> 
> Archive Sheds Light on Nazi Death Camps
> Archive of Holocaust-Related Papers Sheds Light on Vast Network of Nazi
> Concentration Camps
> 
> 
> By ARTHUR MAX
> 
> BAD AROLSEN, Germany Dec 23, 2006 (AP)- Within weeks of Hitler's 1933
> rise to power, the iron gates slammed shut on inmates of the first Nazi
> concentration camps. It was the start of an unparalleled experiment in
> persecution and genocide that expanded over the next 12 years into a
> pyramid of ghettos, Gestapo prisons, slave labor camps and, ultimately,
> extermination factories.
> 
> Holocaust historians are only now piecing together the scattered
> research in many languages to understand the vast scope of the camps,
> prisons and punishment centers that scarred German-ruled Europe, like a
> pox on the landscape stretching from Greece to Norway and eastward into
> Russia.
> 
> Collecting and analyzing fragmented reports, researchers at the U.S.
> Holocaust Memorial Museum say they have pinpointed some 20,000 places
> of detention and persecution three times more than they estimated just
> six years ago.
> 
> And soon they will know much more.
> 
> They are about to have their first access to millions of documents
> locked away for a half century in the sprawling archive of the
> International Tracing Service, an arm of the International Committee of
> the Red Cross, in the central German resort town of Bad Arolsen.
> 
> The 11 countries governing the ITS have agreed to lift the ban on
> research that had been imposed to safeguard victims' privacy, though it
> still will take months until each country ratifies the decision and the
> doors open.
> 
> Recently, The Associated Press was allowed to view ITS documents on
> condition it did not publish the identities of individuals. Among the
> yellowed pages and pasted telegrams seen by AP were internal
> communications, secret orders, and "conduct reports" that determined
> whether inmates would be freed.
> 
> The "pyramid" ranged from death camps such as Auschwitz at the top, to
> secondary and tertiary detention centers. There were 500 brothels,
> where foreign women were put at the disposal of German officers, and
> more than 100 "child care facilities" where women in labor camps were
> forced to undergo abortions or had their newborns taken away and killed
> usually by starvation so the mothers could quickly return to work.
> 
> The earliest prisoners were communists, Social Democrats, Jehovah's
> Witnesses and other political opponents, as well as homosexuals and
> common criminals. The Final Solution, which ultimately would claim 6
> million Jewish lives, had not yet begun.
> 
> Survivors have described the camps in agonizing detail, recounting
> unbearable suffering and calculated brutality. But historians have long
> sought to know more about the inner workings of the camps, hoping to
> draw on the Germans' own firsthand accounts and paperwork.
> 
> One directive seen by the AP, from November 1943 and marked Private and
> Confidential, instructed all camp commanders to keep visitors away from
> sensitive sites.
> 
> "During visits to the concentration camps, the bordellos and the
> crematoria are not to be shown. Visitors also are not to be told
> anything about these facilities," said the order, signed by the
> divisional commander of the SS, the elite unit that guarded the camps.
> 
> Couched in patronizing and dehumanizing language, documents from the
> earliest camps foreshadow a system that would define the word
> "genocide." They show that years before the mass-scale killings began
> at death camps such as Auschwitz, the intellectual groundwork of
> viewing categories of humanity as subhuman was already in place.
> 
> The records include two camps previously known to the Washington
> researchers, but about which few SS documents were available.
> Sachsenburg and Lichtenburg in eastern Germany were among the first
> sites opened in early 1933, but were closed in 1937 when the system was
> restructured into larger camps that housed tens of thousands of
> prisoners. Afterward, both served briefly as women's camps.
> 
> "There are approximately 4,000 pages of material that no one else in no
> other archive has access to," said Joseph White, of the Center for
> Advanced Holocaust Studies at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, who
> has seen only a catalog of the ITS documents on the two camps.
> 
> "These were records that were always under the control of the SS.
> That's very rare to find for these early camps," he said by telephone
> from Washington.
> 
> Such documents could help trace the evolution of the camp system from
> its genesis, White said.
> 
> It was at Sachsenburg, for example, that the SS first used colored
> triangles sewn onto clothing to identify categories of prisoners, a
> method widely adopted later. Armbands with different markings denoted a
> hierarchy among the inmates, from kitchen workers to "seniors."
> 
> Files on the two camps seen by AP reveal an utter contempt by the SS
> not only for inmates but for civilian authority, at a time when Nazi
> rule had not yet taken full control of all institutions of power.
> 
> In Lichtenburg a drafty, disused Renaissance castle an officer reported
> to his commander that the "sharp cutback of bread and rations is having
> a negative effect" on the prisoners, who were looking "sleepy and
> tired" and increasingly ill, he reported. No response was found in the
> file of correspondence.
> 
> Among Sachsenburg' s conduct reports was evidence of the commandant's
> blatant snub of a court in Dresden, which had asked for the "urgent
> release" of an inmate to appear as a witness in a trial. The commandant
> wrote back with a flat refusal.
> 
> Sachsenburg authorities issued periodic behavior reports, but often
> they were just a sentence or two. "G. is a worthless subject and an
> irresponsible person. He would not be harmed by undergoing a really
> long upbringing in the camp. He is an example of the need for such
> camps," said one typical report.
> 
> The ITS has 17 files on Sachsenburg, each containing several hundred
> such reports.
> 
> Sachsenburg was an abandoned four-story textile mill, renovated in May
> 1933 to serve as a "protective custody" facility for dissidents such as
> Jehovah's Witnesses, outlawed in 1935 because they were among the most
> obstinate opponents of the Nazi regime, refusing to sing the anthem,
> give the Hitler salute, respond to the military draft or vote in
> elections.
> 
> In a series of reports over several years, one prisoner is repeatedly
> denounced as a "stubborn ... Bible student," who tried "to promote his
> Biblical verses through the hammer and sickle and the Soviet star."
> Though it did not specify, the wording suggested that the inmate was a
> Witness apparently trying to convert his communist prison mates.
> 
> Before being released, prisoners had to sign a declaration that they
> would never speak against the Nazis and would report anyone who did. "I
> will not ask for any compensation, " the pledge concluded. "I have not
> been forced to make this declaration. "
> 
> The ITS files will be a boon to the researchers in Washington, who are
> compiling a seven-volume encyclopedia of all known sites where
> "undesirables" were detained, tortured, put to work or killed. The
> first volume is in the final editing stage probably too late to take
> advantage of the Bad Arolsen archive.
> 
> Project director Geoffrey Megargee said the museum team gathered
> fragmentary evidence from different sources to assemble the list.
> 
> "Most historians didn't have a grasp of the scope of the whole universe
> of camps and ghettos," he said. "Each of them knew their own little
> slice."
> 
> When they began work six years ago, Megargee said the researchers
> estimated 5,000 to 7,000 sites existed. "Based on our research, it is
> now clear that there were over 20,000 such sites in Germany, in
> German-occupied territories and in the states allied with Nazi
> Germany," he said.
> 
> Steven Katz , director of the Elie Wiesel Center for Judaic Studies at
> Boston University who is not connected with the project, said the
> encyclopedia will be "enormously useful." Though it will have few
> surprises for scholars, others using it as a reference tool "will be
> astonished at the scope of the Nazi enterprise" and the collusion of
> German industry, he said.
> 
> The explosion of knowledge followed the end of the Cold War, when
> scholars could reach into long-hidden sources in Eastern Europe. Some
> of the increase is explained with the inclusion of smaller camps, which
> had just a few hundred inmates, and of prisoner-of- war camps which
> shifted location frequently. Until the encyclopedia project, no one had
> tried to pull it all together into one comprehensive resource, Megargee
> said.
> 
> "When we dig into the Arolsen files, we'll find that what was for us
> just a name, just a location, is going to take on some life, because
> all we've had is some notation somewhere that there was such a place,"
> he said.
> 
> More information was disclosed in compensation claims after the Germany
> government and German industries created a $6.6 billion fund in 2000 to
> compensate people exploited as wartime slave laborers.
> 
> Gunter Saathoff, the director of the German Foundation which
> administers the fund, said nearly 1.7 million people applied for
> restitution, including some 8,000 who served as human guinea pigs for
> Nazi medical experiments. The final payments were being made Dec. 31.
> 
> The Washington historians say more than 100 local detention camps were
> set up in the first months of the Nazi regime in 1933, mainly for
> political prisoners. By mid-1934 control was centralized under the
> command of SS chief Heinrich Himmler.
> 
> Organized killings began shortly after the war started in late 1939 at
> so-called "euthanasia sites," where the victims were physically or
> mentally handicapped people or prisoners no longer capable of work.
> Estimates say the number reached 200,000.
> 
> By 1940, Jews in Poland and Russia were being confined in ghettos. As
> German men were needed to fight, men and women were brought from
> Poland, the Netherlands, the Soviet Union and other occupied nations to
> work in German industries. Labor camps proliferated.
> 
> In 1941 the Germans devised the Final Solution to exterminate Europe's
> Jews. In September, even before the plan was formally approved, the SS
> began experimenting with gas chambers at Auschwitz, about 40 miles from
> the Polish city of Krakow.
> 
> Auschwitz was the largest of six camps whose primary purpose was to
> kill Jews at maximum speed. In 1941-42, more death camps were built in
> Chelmno, Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka and Majdanek.
> 
> By the time Germany capitulated in May 1945 and disbelieving Allied
> forces marched into the camps, 2.7 million people had been incinerated
> in the ovens or open pits of these six compounds. Of every three Jews
> in Europe at the start of the war, two were dead.
> 
> 
> AP Correspondents Melissa Eddy in Bad Arolsen and Randy Herschaft in
> Washington, D.C., contributed to this report.
> 
> 
> On the Net:
> 
> International Tracing Service: http://www.its- arolsen.org
> 
> U.S. Holocaust Museum (encyclopedia of camps): http://www.ushmm.
> org/research/ center/encyclope dia/
> 


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I all ways figured, that Jews classified un-fit to heavy work, were sent 
some where else, to other camps and not gassed, as Zionist theorizing it.
JS


Auschwitz: A Transit Camp for the Hungarian Jews

http://www.codoh.com/gcgv/gcnewrev.html

    Let's get down to the matter: To where were the Hungarian Jews deported?

    It is undoubtedly true that some German documents show a destination 
other than Auschwitz for Hungarian Jews. For example, a 27 October 1944 
note by Horst Wagner (Chief of the section " Inland " of the Foreign 
Ministry of the Reich) states that out of approximately 900,000 Jews who 
were in Hungary, 437,402 had been "taken to the eastern territories to 
be used for work." (19) Other documents mention Germany, the General 
Gouvernate and Upper Silesia, as the final destination. Nevertheless, 
this does not preclude that these deportees had gone first through 
Auschwitz as a transit and clearing camp; and more than that, some 
documents affirm that quite clearly. The report by Eberhard von Thadden 
(Chief of the section "Inland II" of the Foreign Ministry of the Reich), 
dated 26 May 1946, states that from the 15th to the 24th of May 1944, 
they had deported from Hungary to the General Gouvernate, 116,000 Jews, 
at a rate of 12,000 to 14,000 per day, (20) but he adds:

     Nach den bisherigen Feststellungen sind etwa 1/3 der 
abtransportierten Juden arbeitseinsatzfhig. Sie werden sofort nach 
Eintreffen im Sammellager Auschwitz auf die Dieststellen von Gauleiter 
Sauckel, die OT usw. verteilt. [According to the verifications done up 
to now, approximately one-third of the deported Jews are able to work. 
After arriving at the gathering camp in Auschwitz, they are assigned to 
the services of Gauleiter Sauckel of the Todt Organization, etc.] (21)

    The report by Lieutenant Colonel Laszlo Ferenczy of 29 May 1944, is 
still more explicit:

     The German Security Police proposes, and it is their clear intent, 
that the Jews bring with themselves provisions for at least five days 
for the duration of their transport-since upon their arrival at 
Auschwitz, after selection has taken place, they are sent immediately 
(azonnal) on trains (vonatokkal) to the various work locations. (22) 
(azonnal = immediately, at once)

This report underlines that, from the beginning of these deportations 
until midnight of 28 May 1944, there were 184,049 Hungarian Jews 
deported in 58 trains, and they all went through Auschwitz.


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Ron Jacobson wrote:
>    In a report submitted to Himmler in May 1943,  SS
> Sturmbannfuehrer Franke-Gricksch wrote that so far 500,000
> Jews have been murdered in Auschwitz.  The entire report
> can be found,  e.g.,  in "Hitler and the Final Solution",
> G. Fleming,  University of California Press 1984,  p. 142-143.
> 
>    The camp continued to operate until January 1945,  and
> altogether about 1.3 million people were murdered in it.
> 
>    A sample of documents about the murder machinery in
> Auschwitz,  as well as some photographs,  can be seen at
> 
>    http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/index.shtml
>    http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//auschwitz
> 
>    A study of the cyanide compounds in the Auschwitz gas
> chambers can be found in
> 
>    http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/report.shtml
> 
> RJ.

That's Nizkor Bull shit, no one believes that, other than High-school kids.
McVay , also stated one time to me, that 200,000 thousands Jews were 
deported from Budapest, when that was the total Jew population there.
Truth is from 200,000 , 120,000 never were deported, Walenberg saved 
some 100,000.
Problem with your Zionist type is that you inflate numbers grossly, to 
support your Holocau$t numbers.
JS




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Ron Jacobson wrote:
>    In a report submitted to Himmler in May 1943,  SS
> Sturmbannfuehrer Franke-Gricksch wrote that so far 500,000
> Jews have been murdered in Auschwitz.  The entire report
> can be found,  e.g.,  in "Hitler and the Final Solution",
> G. Fleming,  University of California Press 1984,  p. 142-143.
> 
>    The camp continued to operate until January 1945,  and
> altogether about 1.3 million people were murdered in it.
> 
>    A sample of documents about the murder machinery in
> Auschwitz,  as well as some photographs,  can be seen at
> 
>    http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/index.shtml
>    http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//auschwitz
> 
>    A study of the cyanide compounds in the Auschwitz gas
> chambers can be found in
> 
>    http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/report.shtml
> 
> RJ.

Those documents can be forged easily on any old German typewriters.
Also, the peep holes on the doors were German standards for any 
underground shelters or bunkers.
You Zionist lying all the time.
Your Bull Shit lies are spread all over the world, because the US 
supports your Zionist/ Israel ambitions, because the Midle-east oil, 
keep the Arab countries under tension.
Hungary never had any Holocau$t museums during 50 years of the communist 
gov.  Since the US supported EU moved in, Budapest has one.
My friend telling me in Hungary, media in Hungary all ways talks about 
the Holohoax. it's getting disgusting, like a soap commercial.
Communist gov. never denied the Holocu$t, they thought in all history 
books and some times through the media, but nothing compares what's 
going on today.
When you shout in people ears, they just turn away.


JS


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Ron Jacobson wrote:
> In article <1MSdnXuBmMRSHATYnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> Protagonist   wrote:
> 
>> Let's get down to the matter: To where were the Hungarian
>> Jews deported?
> 
>    I'll give you a hint,  Julius.  Just as the deportation
> of the Hungarian Jews to Auschwitz started,  the number
> of stokers in the camp's crematoriums was increased from
> roughly 200 to 900:
> 
>    http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/aug2-3.shtml
> 
>    Does this help you?
> 
> RJ.

As I said, these documents don't prove any thing, can be easily forged.
Same with your pictures of few dozens of bone skinny dead bodies, which 
obviously died in typhus and not gassing or murder, no proof for the 6 
million dead.
Main problem with your Holohoax is the one sided propaganda and it also 
enforced by laws in many countries.
1/2 million people were massacred in Rwanda, there's only one major 
movie were made about it, all though it only happened a decade ago.
No one suing any one, no multi billion compensations, hole world forgot 
about it.
JS


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Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
> In article ,
> Protagonist   wrote:
>> Ron Jacobson wrote:
>>> In article <1MSdnXuBmMRSHATYnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>>> Protagonist   wrote:
>>>
>>>> Let's get down to the matter: To where were the Hungarian
>>>> Jews deported?
>>>    I'll give you a hint,  Julius.  Just as the deportation
>>> of the Hungarian Jews to Auschwitz started,  the number
>>> of stokers in the camp's crematoriums was increased from
>>> roughly 200 to 900:
>>>
>>>    http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/aug2-3.shtml
>>>
>>>    Does this help you?
>>>
>>> RJ.
>> As I said, these documents don't prove any thing, can be easily forged.
> 
> Prove documents were forged by producing evidence they were, dimwitted Szaki.

Prove that they not!?
JS

> 
> 
> Question 1:
> -----------
> 
> On June 13, 2005, you wrote:
> 
> "Although a final figure of Jews killed by the Einsatzgruppen has never been 
>  presented, the most extreme estimates by Yad Vashem and others say that 
>  between 900,000 and 1.25 million people - Jews and others - were killed by 
>  the special action units."
> 
> "This figure is without doubt a gross exaggeration, considering that the 
>  Einsatzgruppen never had more than 3,000 men in total serving in its units 
>  at any one time, and furthermore spent most of their time fighting 
>  partisans." 
> 
> "But even if this grossly exaggerated figure is accurate - and all evidence 
>  is that it is not - this grandiose figure is still nowhere near the 5 
>  million Jews the Nazis estimated were in the Soviet Union's territory." 
> 
> (Szaki, UseNet alt.revisionism, Message ID 
>  6oadnbn35bIiozDfRVn-1Q@comcast.com)
> 
> Please document your claim that the figure 1.2 million is a gross exaggeration,
> and then produce the "all evidence" mentioned in your third paragraph.
> 
> Include the name of publications containing this "all evidence,", the pages
> upon which this "all evidence" can be found, the publisher and publication
> date, and the author's name.
> 
> Question 2:
> -----------
> 
> On June 15, 2005, in response to the publication of document PS-2615 (First
> Nurnberg Tribunal), in which Wilhelm Hoettl explained that he had been
> told that 6 million Jews had died, you wrote:
> 
> "Sworn testimony, after torture! Nice try, moron!" (Szaki. UseNet alt.revisionism,
> Message ID X46dneLExIw3ajLfRVn-sg@comcast.com)
> 
> Please provide evidence that Herr Hoettl was, in fact, tortured.
> 
> Question 3:
> -----------
> 
> In article , on June 18, 2005, you
> asserted that Sgt. Ragene Farris, who served in the 329th Medical Battalion and
> described the horrors American troops had to face during the liberation of 
> the "Boelcke Kazerne" in Nordhausen concentration camp provided a fictional
> account. You wrote:
> 
> "Thank you JJ, this story of courage of Sergeant Ragene Farris really made me
> cry, very nice, heart breaking fictional tale."
> 
> Please provide documentary evidence which proves that condtions were not
> as Sgt. Farris described them.
> 
> Question 4:
> -----------
> On August 19, 2005, in article , you wrote:
> 
> "Why don't you talk about your stupid, boring, Nizkor website, all the
> cut/paste, fake stories and pictures."
> 
> Which pictures and stories, precisely, are "fake?" Please provide your evidence
> that specific pictures and/or stories are fake.
> 
> Question 5:
> -----------
> 
> On September 24th, 2005, you wrote:
> 
> In article ,
> szaki   wrote:
> 
>>> http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/imt/nca/ftp.py?imt/nca/nca-05/nca-05-2615-ps
>  
>> *You're using Nizkor fake information, Brum-Brum-Bruno!
> 
> Please produce documentary evidence that Hoettl's sworn statement, which
> constituted document 2615-PS for the First Nurnberg Tribunal, is "fake 
> information."
> 
> Please demonstrate, again with documentary evidence, that Nizkor's copy of
> this document is not an textually exact rendering of 2615-PS.
> 
> Question 6:
> -----------
> 
> On October 1, 2005, you wrote the following of the statement of Dr. Sigmund Rascher:
> 
> In article ,
> szaki   wrote:
>> Ron Jacobson wrote:
>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.py?people/r/rascher.sigmund//images/Rascher1.jpg
>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.py?people/r/rascher.sigmund//images/Rascher2.jpg
> 
> [...]
>  
>> *Nice forgeries, like the 4 million death at Auschwitz and any thing 
>> else about the Holocau$t!
> 
> Please produce documented evidence that the Rascher statement, as shown on 
> two Nizkor Project images, are forgeries.
> 
> Please list the Western historians who cited the 4-Million figure as valid.
> 
> Question 7
> ----------
> 
> On October 2, 2005, in article ,
> you made the following claim:
> 
> "First, EG report was way inflated about numbers executed. EG all ways
> reported at least twice as much back to Germany, to make them self look
> good"
> 
> Please produce documented evidence that the Einsatzgruppen reports used inflated numbers.
> Cite the name of the report in question, and document your claim with respect to that
> report.
> 
> Question 8
> ----------
> 
> On October 23, 2005, in article ,
> you wrote:
> 
>> Running a website for profit, so called Nizkor, cashing in on other 
>> people misfortune and misery!
> 
> Please present evidence that Nizkor is run for a profit. 
> 


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Ben Cramer wrote:
> Protagonist wrote:
>> Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>> In article ,
>>> Protagonist   wrote:
>>>> Ron Jacobson wrote:
>>>>> In article <1MSdnXuBmMRSHATYnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>>>>> Protagonist   wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's get down to the matter: To where were the Hungarian
>>>>>> Jews deported?
>>>>>    I'll give you a hint,  Julius.  Just as the deportation
>>>>> of the Hungarian Jews to Auschwitz started,  the number
>>>>> of stokers in the camp's crematoriums was increased from
>>>>> roughly 200 to 900:
>>>>>
>>>>>    http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/aug2-3.shtml
>>>>>
>>>>>    Does this help you?
>>>>>
>>>>> RJ.
>>>> As I said, these documents don't prove any thing, can be easily forged.
>>> Prove documents were forged by producing evidence they were, dimwitted Szaki.
>> Prove that they not!?
>> JS
>>
>>>
>>> Question 1:
>>> -----------
>>>
>>> On June 13, 2005, you wrote:
>>>
>>> "Although a final figure of Jews killed by the Einsatzgruppen has never been
>>>  presented, the most extreme estimates by Yad Vashem and others say that
>>>  between 900,000 and 1.25 million people - Jews and others - were killed by
>>>  the special action units."
>>>
>>> "This figure is without doubt a gross exaggeration, considering that the
>>>  Einsatzgruppen never had more than 3,000 men in total serving in its units
>>>  at any one time, and furthermore spent most of their time fighting
>>>  partisans."
>>>
>>> "But even if this grossly exaggerated figure is accurate - and all evidence
>>>  is that it is not - this grandiose figure is still nowhere near the 5
>>>  million Jews the Nazis estimated were in the Soviet Union's territory."
>>>
>>> (Szaki, UseNet alt.revisionism, Message ID
>>>  6oadnbn35bIiozDfRVn-1Q@comcast.com)
>>>
>>> Please document your claim that the figure 1.2 million is a gross exaggeration,
>>> and then produce the "all evidence" mentioned in your third paragraph.
>>>
>>> Include the name of publications containing this "all evidence,", the pages
>>> upon which this "all evidence" can be found, the publisher and publication
>>> date, and the author's name.
>>>
>>> Question 2:
>>> -----------
>>>
>>> On June 15, 2005, in response to the publication of document PS-2615 (First
>>> Nurnberg Tribunal), in which Wilhelm Hoettl explained that he had been
>>> told that 6 million Jews had died, you wrote:
>>>
>>> "Sworn testimony, after torture! Nice try, moron!" (Szaki. UseNet alt.revisionism,
>>> Message ID X46dneLExIw3ajLfRVn-sg@comcast.com)
>>>
>>> Please provide evidence that Herr Hoettl was, in fact, tortured.
>>>
>>> Question 3:
>>> -----------
>>>
>>> In article , on June 18, 2005, you
>>> asserted that Sgt. Ragene Farris, who served in the 329th Medical Battalion and
>>> described the horrors American troops had to face during the liberation of
>>> the "Boelcke Kazerne" in Nordhausen concentration camp provided a fictional
>>> account. You wrote:
>>>
>>> "Thank you JJ, this story of courage of Sergeant Ragene Farris really made me
>>> cry, very nice, heart breaking fictional tale."
>>>
>>> Please provide documentary evidence which proves that condtions were not
>>> as Sgt. Farris described them.
>>>
>>> Question 4:
>>> -----------
>>> On August 19, 2005, in article , you wrote:
>>>
>>> "Why don't you talk about your stupid, boring, Nizkor website, all the
>>> cut/paste, fake stories and pictures."
>>>
>>> Which pictures and stories, precisely, are "fake?" Please provide your evidence
>>> that specific pictures and/or stories are fake.
>>>
>>> Question 5:
>>> -----------
>>>
>>> On September 24th, 2005, you wrote:
>>>
>>> In article ,
>>> szaki   wrote:
>>>
>>>>> http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/imt/nca/ftp.py?imt/nca/nca-05/nca-05-2615-ps
>>>> *You're using Nizkor fake information, Brum-Brum-Bruno!
>>> Please produce documentary evidence that Hoettl's sworn statement, which
>>> constituted document 2615-PS for the First Nurnberg Tribunal, is "fake
>>> information."
>>>
>>> Please demonstrate, again with documentary evidence, that Nizkor's copy of
>>> this document is not an textually exact rendering of 2615-PS.
>>>
>>> Question 6:
>>> -----------
>>>
>>> On October 1, 2005, you wrote the following of the statement of Dr. Sigmund Rascher:
>>>
>>> In article ,
>>> szaki   wrote:
>>>> Ron Jacobson wrote:
>>>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.py?people/r/rascher.sigmund//images/Rascher1.jpg
>>>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.py?people/r/rascher.sigmund//images/Rascher2.jpg
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> *Nice forgeries, like the 4 million death at Auschwitz and any thing
>>>> else about the Holocau$t!
>>> Please produce documented evidence that the Rascher statement, as shown on
>>> two Nizkor Project images, are forgeries.
>>>
>>> Please list the Western historians who cited the 4-Million figure as valid.
>>>
>>> Question 7
>>> ----------
>>>
>>> On October 2, 2005, in article ,
>>> you made the following claim:
>>>
>>> "First, EG report was way inflated about numbers executed. EG all ways
>>> reported at least twice as much back to Germany, to make them self look
>>> good"
>>>
>>> Please produce documented evidence that the Einsatzgruppen reports used inflated numbers.
>>> Cite the name of the report in question, and document your claim with respect to that
>>> report.
>>>
>>> Question 8
>>> ----------
>>>
>>> On October 23, 2005, in article ,
>>> you wrote:
>>>
>>>> Running a website for profit, so called Nizkor, cashing in on other
>>>> people misfortune and misery!
>>> Please present evidence that Nizkor is run for a profit.
>>>
> 
> Szaki:
> IM me. Do you have a web cam?
> 

Have one, why?
Mcvay is a nut case! he should keep the motto in his mind:
"Work makes one FREE!"
McVay should get a job, rather than running bull shit Holohoax website!
JS


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Just watched the other day, movie "The Whore" on cable and cracked me 
up, with it's revers images!
Prostitute is a white/blond girl including the evil pimp, who wants her 
24 hours out on the street with her legs up in the air and making money. 
Good guy is black man, lives on the street, who helping the white/blond 
whore against the white evil pimp.
In one seen, white/blond whore goes into a go-go dance bar, where white 
girls dancing naked, interesting all wearing large Christian cross 
necklaces.
Wow, movie teaching teenage kids, all white Christians are evil pimps 
and whores.
Haha!
I've never seen whores and pimps wearing the Star a David or other 
Jewish symbols.
Fuck the Jews!
Jews are the cause for making me a Nazi!
JS



Goodness wrote:
> Notice how the media regularly broadcasts movies bashing Christianity?
> That's supposed to be fine, but never show anything bad about Judaism.
> That sounds a little biased against Christianity.
> 
> Christians are regularly attacked and harassed in the media on TV and in
> movies, making Christianity seem very bad, superstitious and
> undesireable. They are
> trying to replace Christianity with cheap lewd conversation, horrific
> violence on TV, porno, prostitution, calumny, and pagan athiest views.
> 
> So, to balance things out a little, here's a movie about Jews.
> 
> The Eternal Jew - PART 1
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZbFndoIz6I
> 
> The Eternal Jew - PART 2
> Money, Business, Racial and geographic history.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7EuEEmh4fQ
> 
> The Eternal Jew - PART 3
> Assimilation and disguise
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWUNXjDLCH8
> 
> The Eternal Jew - PART 4
> Rothschild family distribution, NY Stock Exchange
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWu01xGPp3s
> 
> The Eternal Jew - PART 5
> Usury, Swindling, Fraud, Assault on art and culture
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cewL8yElGoQ
> 
> The Eternal Jew - PART 6
> Christian historical view, Warsaw Purim festival, Talmud
> schools,Synagogue footage
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UWHz52xhBg
> 
> The Eternal Jew - PART 7
> Torah scrolls, Animal Cruelty
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OvjbQQQ7is
> 
> The Eternal Jew - PART 8
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZCV6Wjcggo
> 
> In the 1860s General Grant said the Jews were not a race or religion,
> they were "a class" of money lovers which he expelled from three states.
> 
> The Jewish class seems to run the psychology field in America today, and
> 
> they profit from it greatly.
> 
> In the late 1500s, Queen Elizabeth kicked the "Jewish class" out of
> Britain.  They couldn't return until after WWI, then more arrived after
> WWII.
> 


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Joe Bruno wrote:
> Goodness wrote:
>> Christ offers forgiveness to all Jews who accept Christ's teachings of
>> honesty, love and forgiveness, and who stop following the Talmud and
>> Kabbalah.
>>
>> Neither of these books are Holy books.
> 
> Few Jews follow the Kabbalah anymore, ignoramus.

Including Madonna?!
Israeli prime minister even invited her. Things got broken down, when 
she insisted to visited Palestinians in the occupied land!
JS

> 
> 
> The New Testament doesn't mean shit to Jews, idiot.
> 
>  They are diversions from the
>> truth that teaches "all people are good".
> 
> Except people like you, who think they know everything and badmouth
> other people's beliefs. Get lost, bigot.
> 


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LIBERATOR wrote:
> I do believe that Richard Strong has secretly brought in Phil Anschutz
> to the secrets of Adolf Hitlers innocence of  the holocaust, due to the
> behaviors of Phil Anschutz in his investments, and his thunderous
> purchasing of newspapers.
> 
> http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_17/b3930112_mz020.htm
> 
> Oak Tree Capital Management is one of  the many financial firms Richard
> Strong secretly controls. It is Phil Anschutz partner in all
> investments.
> 
> Phil Anschutz would make a very powerful holocaust revisionist, and the
> day may come where he might openly deny the holocaust publically, and
> on that day I seek to have Mel Gibson also publically deny it as
> happening. Teaming two juggernauts such as them on the same day stating
> in press releases that the holocaust was staged to extort money to fund
> Israel, from the public who had no role in WW2 and has no
> responsibility for it, Jews will be hated as they should be.
> 
> Tricking the world to believe they were victims, so they could steal
> trillions of dollars to fund a country they created by stealing land by
> murdering the original natives, is absolutely pure evil. This is the
> Jews, and they deserve to be hated with fury.
> 

That will be the day, when he will loose all his billions!
Because, the Jews of America will crucify him!
JS


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Eugene Holman wrote:
> In article <1151-45A0031B-83@storefull-3151.bay.webtv.net>,
> KeeponChooglin@webtv.net (Curly C) wrote:
> 
>> Bruno and Holman will probably say that the gas chamber used was fake.
>> How ironic would that be!
> 
> I think that the entire video is a sham, a fake, and extremely dangerous.
> 
> € No responsible physician would participate in such an experiment.
> € The fact that the entire cast, particularly the alleged physician, was
> anonymous arouses suspicions.
> € Even more suspicions are aroused by the fact that the video was produced
> anonymously, with no one taking responsibility for its content.
> € The announcer justifies the anonymity as a means of avoiding prosecution
> and harassment; if the film were honest there would be no fear of
> prosecution.
> € There is no proof that the substance used was produced according to the
> same recipe as the Zyklon-B used by the Nazis.
> € The volunteers are four, evidently healthy, young men; the victims
> selected for gassing were elderly people, and women with their children
> and infants, deemed incapable of working as slave laborers.
> € Zyklon-B was not as harmless to people as the film implies; the cans
> that it came in warn of it being extremely poisonous to humans and that it
> was only to be obtained and used by licensed professionals.
> € A gas chamber would have be hermetically sealed to the extent that there
> would be no significant exchange of ambient air between it and its
> surroundings; this could be done, as anyone who has ever watched the
> extermination of a room knows, with duct tape or polyethylene. A
> sufficient degree of hermetic sealing to kill a person can be achieved by
> putting a polyethylene bag over his head, no fancy technology is
> necessary.
> € If the room had been properly sealed, the men inside would have
> suffocated even if no lethal agent was used.
> € Killing vermin requires a concentration of HCN in the range of 15,000
> ppm sustained over as long as 72 hours; killing people can be done with
> 300 ppm sustained over fifteen minutes.
> 
> I would not recommend any readers of this group to repeat the experiment.
> Cyanide is extremely lethal gas, and we wouldn't want to see anyone here
> killed or killing someone while playing with it.
> 
> Regards,
> Eugene Holman


Gassing out (boiling point) temperature of Zyklon-B is 25C-deg, 
temperature in the chamber  is 15 C-deg.
That's why the participant in the experiment are confident, for short 
period, the gas is ineffective, can't cause harm!
Germans used hot air blowers in Dachau to speed up the gassing out of 
Zyklon-B in disinfection chambers.
http://www.nazigassings.com/zyklondelousing.html

This experiment was conducted in Germany, where Holocau$t denial is 
punishable, that's why the anonimosity of the participants..
JS


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Joe Bruno wrote:
> Protagonist wrote:
>> Joe Bruno wrote:
>>> Goodness wrote:
>>>> Christ offers forgiveness to all Jews who accept Christ's teachings of
>>>> honesty, love and forgiveness, and who stop following the Talmud and
>>>> Kabbalah.
>>>>
>>>> Neither of these books are Holy books.
>>> Few Jews follow the Kabbalah anymore, ignoramus.
>> Including Madonna?!
>> Israeli prime minister even invited her. Things got broken down, when
>> she insisted to visited Palestinians in the occupied land!
>> JS
> 
> 
> Learn English, you stupid buffoon. Then someone might be able to figure
> out what your ignorant mouth is babbling about.
>>>
>>> The New Testament doesn't mean shit to Jews, idiot.
>>>
>>>  They are diversions from the
>>>> truth that teaches "all people are good".
>>> Except people like you, who think they know everything and badmouth
>>> other people's beliefs. Get lost, bigot.
>>>
> 

Grabbing the bottle again you old drunk!
JS


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Joe Bruno wrote:
> Protagonist wrote:
>> Joe Bruno wrote:
>>> Protagonist wrote:
>>>> Joe Bruno wrote:
>>>>> Goodness wrote:
>>>>>> Christ offers forgiveness to all Jews who accept Christ's teachings of
>>>>>> honesty, love and forgiveness, and who stop following the Talmud and
>>>>>> Kabbalah.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neither of these books are Holy books.
>>>>> Few Jews follow the Kabbalah anymore, ignoramus.
>>>> Including Madonna?!
>>>> Israeli prime minister even invited her. Things got broken down, when
>>>> she insisted to visited Palestinians in the occupied land!
>>>> JS
>>>
>>> Learn English, you stupid buffoon. Then someone might be able to figure
>>> out what your ignorant mouth is babbling about.
>>>>> The New Testament doesn't mean shit to Jews, idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>>  They are diversions from the
>>>>>> truth that teaches "all people are good".
>>>>> Except people like you, who think they know everything and badmouth
>>>>> other people's beliefs. Get lost, bigot.
>>>>>
>> Grabbing the bottle again you old drunk!
>> JS
> 
> 
> Even in the rare occasions when I do drink, I make alot more sense than
> you do.
> My cat speaks better English than you do.
> 

Miao!
JS


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Joe Bruno wrote:
> Protagonist wrote:
>> Joe Bruno wrote:
>>> Protagonist wrote:
>>>> Joe Bruno wrote:
>>>>> Protagonist wrote:
>>>>>> Joe Bruno wrote:
>>>>>>> Goodness wrote:
>>>>>>>> Christ offers forgiveness to all Jews who accept Christ's teachings of
>>>>>>>> honesty, love and forgiveness, and who stop following the Talmud and
>>>>>>>> Kabbalah.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Neither of these books are Holy books.
>>>>>>> Few Jews follow the Kabbalah anymore, ignoramus.
>>>>>> Including Madonna?!
>>>>>> Israeli prime minister even invited her. Things got broken down, when
>>>>>> she insisted to visited Palestinians in the occupied land!
>>>>>> JS
>>>>> Learn English, you stupid buffoon. Then someone might be able to figure
>>>>> out what your ignorant mouth is babbling about.
>>>>>>> The New Testament doesn't mean shit to Jews, idiot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  They are diversions from the
>>>>>>>> truth that teaches "all people are good".
>>>>>>> Except people like you, who think they know everything and badmouth
>>>>>>> other people's beliefs. Get lost, bigot.
>>>>>>>
>>>> Grabbing the bottle again you old drunk!
>>>> JS
>>>
>>> Even in the rare occasions when I do drink, I make alot more sense than
>>> you do.
>>> My cat speaks better English than you do.
>>>
>> Miao!
>> JS
> 
> No, it's "meow".
> 

That's in Hebrew, Jew Bruno!
Learn English at least!
JS


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Sara Salzman wrote:
> In article ,
>  Protagonist  wrote:
> 
>> Joe Bruno wrote:
>>> Goodness wrote:
>>>> Christ offers forgiveness to all Jews who accept Christ's teachings of
>>>> honesty, love and forgiveness, and who stop following the Talmud and
>>>> Kabbalah.
>>>>
>>>> Neither of these books are Holy books.
>>> Few Jews follow the Kabbalah anymore, ignoramus.
>> Including Madonna?!
> 
> Since when is Madonna Jewish, Idiot?

She acts like one!
JS

> 
>> Israeli prime minister even invited her. Things got broken down, when 
>> she insisted to visited Palestinians in the occupied land!
>> JS
>>
>>>
>>> The New Testament doesn't mean shit to Jews, idiot.
>>>
>>>  They are diversions from the
>>>> truth that teaches "all people are good".
>>> Except people like you, who think they know everything and badmouth
>>> other people's beliefs. Get lost, bigot.
>>>
> 


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Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
> In article <1168300445.229877.298720@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com>,
>   wrote:
>> Frank Arthur wrote:
>>> Frank's Name Stands Out in Nazi Archive
>>> Published: 11/28/06, 4:05 PM EDT
>>> By ARTHUR MAX
>>> [..]
>>> The final months of Anne's life is known from her father's memoirs, from the
>>> few survivors who saw her and from descriptions of camp life. Historian Harry Paape,
>>> writing for the Netherlands State Institute for War Documentation, says Anne and her
>>> sister Margot probably were moved from Auschwitz on Oct. 28 to Bergen-Belsen, which
>>> was not a death camp with gas chambers but a concentration camp where inmates
>>> often died of disease, hunger and exposure.
>> Auschwitz as well was no death camp with gas chambers but a
>> concentration camp where inmates often died of disease, hunger and
>> exposure.
> 
> The Auschwitz-Birkeau-Monowitz complex was both a slave labour camp and an extermination
> facility. Live with it, Bubba, and try to educate yourself about the events you are
> attempting so poorly to deny.
> 
>>> Survivor Janny Brandes-Brilleslijper said in an Oscar-winning 1995
>>> documentary that she saw Anne in her last days, ailing and covered with
>>> lice. "Anne had thrown away her clothes and she came to us crying,
>>> wrapped only in her gray blanket," she said.
>>>
>>> Anne and Margot Frank died during a typhus epidemic that swept through
>>> Bergen-Belsen from February to April 1945, killing an estimated 35,000 people.
>> Who bombed the transport systems and factories of Europe? It were
>> British and American bombers (common for them as anybody can see still
>> today).
>>
>> Those who prevented that Zyklon-B was produced and brought to the camps
>> to kill lice and prevent typhus are the ones who killed Anne Frank.
> 
> Isn't it funny that the SS staff at the camps were fat and healthy when the camps were
> liberated, while the prisoners were starving to death?
> 
> Isn't it strange that the SS had more than 90 tons of food stored within a few kilometers
> of Bergen-Belson, and yet their prisoners were starving to death?
> 
> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/camps/bergen-belsen/Bergen-Belsen-00.html
> 

Dumb ass McVay!
Report: 7 million Americans in justice system
One in every 32 U.S. adults behind bars, on probation or on parole in 2005
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15960666/
US prison population is over 2 million, 7 million was in the justice 
system in one year, largest in the world and they execute
some of the prisoners.
So, do you think the US is an island of extermination camps?
JS



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Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
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> Goodness   wrote:
>> Jewish hate movie against Christianity
>>
>> In this well funded movie entitled "The People Under the Stairs" they
> 
> How do you know that the movie was "well funded," and where do you believe that funding
> came from?
> 
> PS: Please adjust your collander.

Came from you and like to trash whites!
JS


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Joe Sterling wrote:
> Heinrich wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks for setting it all straight.
> 
> No, excuse me.
> 
> You forgot to mention that World War II actually never happened, and
> that Hitler himself was a Jew.
> 
> Joe
> 

I guess you have proof for the above, idiot!
JS


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http://www.godlikeproductions.com/images/smilies/custom/lcsobepn.jpeg


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Ron Jacobson wrote:
> In article ,
> Protagonist   wrote:
> 
>> Gassing out (boiling point) temperature of Zyklon-B is 25C-deg, 
>> temperature in the chamber  is 15 C-deg.
> 
>    The boiling point is NOT the "gassing out" point.  Zyklon
> was used in far lower temperatures (as low as -15 Centigrade).
> It still evaporates at this temperature.  Water,  you know,
> also evaporates at temperatures well below its boiling point.
> See http://www.holocaust-history.org/works/peters-rasch-1941/.
> 
>    The movie is a stupid fake.  There is no way to verify
> what material is poured from the can,  nor that the
> "volunteers" were indeed exposed to it.
> 
> RJ.

You are the fake, Ron Jew!
JS


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Kurt Knoll wrote:
> I.ll guess we can look forward to some more holoax movies being made.
> 
> Kurt Knoll.

I'm sure some new big budget Holohoax movie will surface soon , 
supporting the after 60 years, newly discovered evidence.
First the newly discovered evidence has to be censored and re-written 
with old German typewriter to make it believable, so RJ can wave it here 
on AR.
JS


> 
> "B Horatio Cramer"  wrote in message 
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>>> Joe Sterling wrote:
>>>> Heinrich wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for setting it all straight.
>>>>
>>>> No, excuse me.
>>>>
>>>> You forgot to mention that World War II actually never happened, and
>>>> that Hitler himself was a Jew.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>> I guess you have proof for the above, idiot!
>> If they don't today, they will tomorrow. That's how they do things.
>>
>>
> 
> 


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Ed wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
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>> Joe Sterling wrote:
>>> Heinrich wrote:
>>> 
>>>
>>> Thanks for setting it all straight.
>>>
>>> No, excuse me.
>>>
>>> You forgot to mention that World War II actually never happened, and
>>> that Hitler himself was a Jew.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>> I guess you have proof for the above, idiot!
>> JS
> 
> You ever heard of sarcasm, chump?
> 
> 

Nooooo!
But I know dummies like you, plenty!
JS



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Ed wrote:
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>> Ed wrote:
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>>>> Joe Sterling wrote:
>>>>> Heinrich wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for setting it all straight.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, excuse me.
>>>>>
>>>>> You forgot to mention that World War II actually never happened, and
>>>>> that Hitler himself was a Jew.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
>>>> I guess you have proof for the above, idiot!
>>>> JS
>>> You ever heard of sarcasm, chump?
>>>
>>>
>> Nooooo!
>> But I know dummies like you, plenty!
>> JS
> 
> Excuse me, but I'm not the one who is wasting my life away trying to alter 
> established history.  You revisionists are a total waste of DNA.
> 
> 
> 

... and you Jew types waisting Earths oxygen, big time!
JS



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B Horatio Cramer wrote:
> 
> "Ed"  wrote in message 
> news:2ImdnciQqNpZ4zTYnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message 
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>>> It's not funny at all.
>>
>> Coming from YOU it is.  You are the one who is wasting his life away, 
>> trying to change history, trying to refute irrefutable facts.
> 
> What irrefutable facts might they be, rozenboig?
> 
> 
> 

Crazy-Ed-y suggesting,  4 million death over Auschwitz must be true now 
and the sign should be posted back at the gates.
Beware, his been eating mushrooms lately!
JS




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Ed wrote:
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>>>>>> Joe Sterling wrote:
>>>>>>> Heinrich wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for setting it all straight.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, excuse me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You forgot to mention that World War II actually never happened, and
>>>>>>> that Hitler himself was a Jew.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess you have proof for the above, idiot!
>>>>>> JS
>>>>> You ever heard of sarcasm, chump?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Nooooo!
>>>> But I know dummies like you, plenty!
>>>> JS
>>> Excuse me, but I'm not the one who is wasting my life away trying to 
>>> alter established history.  You revisionists are a total waste of DNA.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> ... and you Jew types waisting Earths oxygen, big time!
> 
> Here's a thought for you.... why don't you stop whining about Jews and make 
> something of your own life instead of trying to change the truth of the 
> Holocaust and blaming your worthless, miserable existence on Jews?
> 
> 
> 

Oh, I see Jew boy!
All revisionist are a Nazi, depressed, miserable, looser etc... stereotype!
Why don't you stop whining about Nazis stupido, because they built great 
things without you Jews!
Soviets and Americans were scrambling for these blood thirsty, Jew and 
baby killer, ignorant German scientist after the war.
Man! You must be the stupidest idiot I've ever seen, falling for junk 
propaganda!
JS





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Ed wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
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>> B Horatio Cramer wrote:
>>> "Ed"  wrote in message 
>>> news:2ImdnciQqNpZ4zTYnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:ugeqh.640846$5R2.550486@pd7urf3no...
>>>>> It's not funny at all.
>>>> Coming from YOU it is.  You are the one who is wasting his life away, 
>>>> trying to change history, trying to refute irrefutable facts.
>>> What irrefutable facts might they be, rozenboig?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Crazy-Ed-y suggesting,  4 million death over Auschwitz must be true now
> 
> That's not what anyone ever claimed, and if that's what you are saying, you 
> are indeed, a liar.
>  Auschwitz was just one of dozens of concentration camps.
> Six million Jews along with millions of others perished among ALL of those 
> concentration camps, not just Auschwitz.
> 
> 
> 
> 

I see! After the war 6 million Jew death was claimed, including 4 
million at Auschwitz. Than in 1990 Auschwitz numbers were reduced by 3 
million, but magically the 6 million death still holding.
Wow! Jewish math at it's highest!
JS



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Ed wrote:
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>> Ed wrote:
>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
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>>>> Ed wrote:
>>>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:YfWdnfuqKIZ9yTTYnZ2dnUVZ_vzinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>> Ed wrote:
>>>>>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>> news:m4KdnV3t_NM3PjXYnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>> Joe Sterling wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Heinrich wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for setting it all straight.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, excuse me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You forgot to mention that World War II actually never happened, 
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> that Hitler himself was a Jew.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess you have proof for the above, idiot!
>>>>>>>> JS
>>>>>>> You ever heard of sarcasm, chump?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nooooo!
>>>>>> But I know dummies like you, plenty!
>>>>>> JS
>>>>> Excuse me, but I'm not the one who is wasting my life away trying to 
>>>>> alter established history.  You revisionists are a total waste of DNA.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> ... and you Jew types waisting Earths oxygen, big time!
>>> Here's a thought for you.... why don't you stop whining about Jews and 
>>> make something of your own life instead of trying to change the truth of 
>>> the Holocaust and blaming your worthless, miserable existence on Jews?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Oh, I see Jew boy!
>> All revisionist are a Nazi, depressed, miserable, looser etc... 
>> stereotype!
> 
> Precisely.  Glad you agree.
> 
>> Why don't you stop whining about Nazis stupido, because they built great 
>> things without you Jews!
> 
> Yeah.... and look at what they had to show for it.  A Germany completely in 
> ruins.
> 
> 
> 

Go see a doctor for an eye exam, because you're so blind, unbelievable.
JS


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Ed wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
> news:KIudnS8XSYq4LTTYnZ2dnUVZ_r2onZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Ed wrote:
>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>>> news:D4idnRpZjPsbPDTYnZ2dnUVZ_rCsnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> B Horatio Cramer wrote:
>>>>> "Ed"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:2ImdnciQqNpZ4zTYnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:ugeqh.640846$5R2.550486@pd7urf3no...
>>>>>>> It's not funny at all.
>>>>>> Coming from YOU it is.  You are the one who is wasting his life away, 
>>>>>> trying to change history, trying to refute irrefutable facts.
>>>>> What irrefutable facts might they be, rozenboig?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Crazy-Ed-y suggesting,  4 million death over Auschwitz must be true now
>>> That's not what anyone ever claimed, and if that's what you are saying, 
>>> you are indeed, a liar.
>>>  Auschwitz was just one of dozens of concentration camps.
>>> Six million Jews along with millions of others perished among ALL of 
>>> those concentration camps, not just Auschwitz.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I see! After the war 6 million Jew death was claimed, including 4 million 
>> at Auschwitz. Than in 1990 Auschwitz numbers were reduced by 3 million, 
>> but magically the 6 million death still holding.
>> Wow! Jewish math at it's highest!
> 
> Mathmatics not your strongpoint, huh?  Figures for someone who failed first 
> grade.
> 
> I said the six million was a total from ALL the dozens of death camps 
> scattered throughout Europe.  NOT just from Auschwitz.
> 
>> JS

Auschwitz claimed 4 million before 1990 idiot, can't you read?
Than was reduced to 1.1 million, that's all most 3 million less.
Final figures of total death  of 6 million, including the 4 million at 
Auschwitz was established few years after the war and financial 
compensation in billions of $$$$ was claimed by Israel and  Jewish 
survivors!
The other camps were included in the 2 million.
It's not 6 million + 4 million retard!
JS



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Ed wrote:
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message 
> news:65wqh.667994$R63.601839@pd7urf1no...
>> Well where are the negatives it will tell us from what period of time and 
>> maybe the type of camera being used.
> 
> What difference does that make?
> If it means that much to you, why don't you email the administrators of the 
> websites?

That's what revisionism is all about, bozo!
Any one can fabricate maps, pictures etc... and claim any thing. That's 
what Jews do best, since big money is made in Holohoax claims.
Would you buy an expensive painting before inspected by an expert if 
it's real, authentic?
Lot of fakes out there you know!
That's what the Holocau$t is, lot of fake or misrepresented picture 
showing dead bodies of typhus victims, eyewitness stories told in books, 
propaganda movies, but no real forensic evidence or neutral body 
investigations. It's all ways presented by Jews, Zionist, Polish or 
Soviet investigators.
Now how bias it can be?
Holocau$t is made into law  against deniers, with stiff jail time.
Stick around, maybe you learn some thing new!
JS



> 
>> Kurt Knoll.
>>
>> "Ed"  wrote in message 
>> news:HaadnZJYJdpHGDfYnZ2dnUVZ_vqpnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message 
>>> news:79uqh.657410$5R2.504193@pd7urf3no...
>>>> Nice picture who has the negatives no mix-up please.
>>>>
>>>> Kurt Knoll.
>>> Are you saying that those pictures are not authentic?
>>>
>>>> "Ed"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:XcSdndjya-jO9DfYnZ2dnUVZ_vKunZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:p0jqh.639052$1T2.250112@pd7urf2no...
>>>>>> irrefutable facts you say what is there to refute when no one is 
>>>>>> allowed to get near all the facts. To get near the facts one has to 
>>>>>> find a way to get around your poker game.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kurt Knoll.
>>>>> Have fun at the poker game:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://history1900s.about.com/library/holocaust/blpictures.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.phdn.org/histgen/schmitz/indexeng.html
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/holocaust/photoessay.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.remember.org/image/
>>>>>
>>>>> http://fcit.usf.edu/HOLOCAUST/resource/gallery/gallery.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/phototoc.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just six links.  I didn't have time to post the 1,840,000 links that I 
>>>>> got just from googling "Holocaust Photos."
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, by the way, you lost the poker game.  When are you going to pay up?
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Ed"  wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:2ImdnciQqNpZ4zTYnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>> news:ugeqh.640846$5R2.550486@pd7urf3no...
>>>>>>>> It's not funny at all.
>>>>>>> Coming from YOU it is.  You are the one who is wasting his life away, 
>>>>>>> trying to change history, trying to refute irrefutable facts.  And 
>>>>>>> all the while being totally CLOSE minded about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is part of a normal education process to compare
>>>>>>>> what different people write of the subject. But it is certainly 
>>>>>>>> something your holocaust industries is totally against it. Will 
>>>>>>>> there ever be a time when you can be totally honest about anything. 
>>>>>>>> Or is your mind controlled by the quest for someone else's money.
>>>>>>> And there you go, totally proving my point better than I could have 
>>>>>>> myself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
> 
> 


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Ed wrote:
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message 
> news:%Gvqh.653091$1T2.217371@pd7urf2no...
>> You could be right for the Germans the Jews were the greatest enemies. 
>> Since they were instrumental in the drafting of sanctions against Germany 
>> after world war I. Could this be the reason why all news paper articles 
>> from this period up until 1945 are banned for the Germans to see an 
>> compare. For without hate propaganda there is no holocaust extortion money 
>> to be made.
> 
> So, even if the Jews being instrumental in the drafting of the sanctions 
> against Germany following WWI, (and I seriously doubt the veracity of that 
> statement), how does that justify the murder of 6 million of them?

No one murdered 6 million Jews, not even 1 million.
You see, these things are engraved into your brain by the Holohax 
industry, since you born.
Why don't you look for the evidence for the 6 million?
For example, because there are few pictures or video shown of few piles 
of dead bodies from the Stalingrad war, does it prove that 1/2 million, 
1 million or 5 million died there?
No!
So why you assume, few pictures of skinny dead bodies from labor camps 
proves 6 million dead?
First place, Holohoax industry never advertised it to the unaware 
public, large numbers of inmates died in typhus or other diseases in 
those camps.

JS


> 
> Please tell me, Kurtsy, under what circumstances is genocide justifiable?  I 
> really want to know.
> 
> 
>> Kurt Knoll.
>>
>> "Ed"  wrote in message 
>> news:XcSdndjya-jO9DfYnZ2dnUVZ_vKunZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message 
>>> news:p0jqh.639052$1T2.250112@pd7urf2no...
>>>> irrefutable facts you say what is there to refute when no one is allowed 
>>>> to get near all the facts. To get near the facts one has to find a way 
>>>> to get around your poker game.
>>>>
>>>> Kurt Knoll.
>>> Have fun at the poker game:
>>>
>>> http://history1900s.about.com/library/holocaust/blpictures.htm
>>>
>>> http://www.phdn.org/histgen/schmitz/indexeng.html
>>>
>>> http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/holocaust/photoessay.htm
>>>
>>> http://www.remember.org/image/
>>>
>>> http://fcit.usf.edu/HOLOCAUST/resource/gallery/gallery.htm
>>>
>>> http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/phototoc.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Just six links.  I didn't have time to post the 1,840,000 links that I 
>>> got just from googling "Holocaust Photos."
>>>
>>> Oh, by the way, you lost the poker game.  When are you going to pay up?
>>>
>>>> "Ed"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:2ImdnciQqNpZ4zTYnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:ugeqh.640846$5R2.550486@pd7urf3no...
>>>>>> It's not funny at all.
>>>>> Coming from YOU it is.  You are the one who is wasting his life away, 
>>>>> trying to change history, trying to refute irrefutable facts.  And all 
>>>>> the while being totally CLOSE minded about it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It is part of a normal education process to compare
>>>>>> what different people write of the subject. But it is certainly 
>>>>>> something your holocaust industries is totally against it. Will there 
>>>>>> ever be a time when you can be totally honest about anything. Or is 
>>>>>> your mind controlled by the quest for someone else's money.
>>>>> And there you go, totally proving my point better than I could have 
>>>>> myself.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
> 
> 


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jgarbuz wrote:
> Kurt Knoll wrote:
>> And how many of the so called holocaust survivors who were never in a
>> concentration camp are collecting. Like Norman Finkelstein in his book the
>> holocaust industries wrote. Anyone wanted to qualify how much proof was
>> required to qualify.<
> 
> Germany is not a profligate country, and doesn't hand out money without
> some proof. Germany is not like the USA. So anyone who got money from
> Germany suffered from Nazi murder and oppression, whether they were
> actually in a camp, or hiding on  a farm or in the forests. My mother
> lived worse than any animal even though she was not in a camp. But she
> asked for no reparations. Others chose to get false witnesses of some
> who were in the camps, to testify that they too were in    the camp,
> and that is how they got more money. But it is a lie to say that
> anyone, any Jew anywhere, could claim and get money. The US does things
> like that, but not Germany. No matter what, you did need some kind of
> proof of Nazi genocidal oppression to collect from Germany.

Most Holohoax money is payed to Israel and not to survivors.
Some 60 billion was payed by Germany as Holocau$t compensation after the 
war, more than 2/3 of that money went into Israels infrastructure and 
not to survivors.
JS

> 
>> Kurt Knoll.
>>
>> "jgarbuz"  wrote in message
>> news:1168708853.696987.111610@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>> Wiedergutmachung
>> >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
>>
>> The German word Wiedergutmachung after World War II refers to the
>> reparations that the German government agreed to pay to the direct
>> survivors of the Holocaust, and to those who were made to work as
>> forced labour or who otherwise became victims of the Nazis.
>>
>> The noun Wiedergutmachung is the general term for "restitution" or
>> "reparation". The noun is made up of wieder ("again"), gut ("good" or
>> "well"), and machung, a verbal noun of machen ("to make"). The verb
>> wiedergutmachen means literally "to make well again" or to compensate.
>> Wiedergutmachungsgeld means "Wiedergutmachung money".
>>
>> In the former East Germany, the wiedergutmachung was mostly to Poland
>> and the former USSR.
>>
>> The German federal office in charge of this issue is BEG (abbreviation
>> for "Bundesentschädigungsgesetz", which translates into English as
>> "Federal Compensation Law") which, in its charter, states:
>>
>>     Individuals who were persecuted for political, racial, religious or
>> ideological reasons by the wartime German regime are eligible for money
>> from the German government under the terms of the Federal Compensation
>> Law (BEG) of 1953 and 1956. This includes Jews who were interned in
>> camps or ghettos, were obliged to wear the star badge, or who lived in
>> hiding.
>>
>> Only people who were directly victimised are eligible for
>> Wiedergutmachung, and not, for example, offspring born after the war or
>> grandchildren. Statistics concerning Wiedergutmachung payments were
>> released by the BEG through the mid-1980's, but have not since been
>> publicly released. As of the mid-1980s, over four million claims had
>> been filed and paid. Approximately 40% of the claims were from Israel,
>> where many Holocaust survivors live, 20% were from Germany, and 40%
>> were from other countries.
>>
>> [edit] See also
>>
>>     * Grundgesetz
>>     * Claims Conference
> 


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>>>> Ed wrote:
>>>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:u5adnZvX_aIOPTTYnZ2dnUVZ_uzinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>> Ed wrote:
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>>>>>>> news:YfWdnfuqKIZ9yTTYnZ2dnUVZ_vzinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>> Ed wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>>>>>> Joe Sterling wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Heinrich wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for setting it all straight.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No, excuse me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You forgot to mention that World War II actually never happened, 
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> that Hitler himself was a Jew.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I guess you have proof for the above, idiot!
>>>>>>>>>> JS
>>>>>>>>> You ever heard of sarcasm, chump?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nooooo!
>>>>>>>> But I know dummies like you, plenty!
>>>>>>>> JS
>>>>>>> Excuse me, but I'm not the one who is wasting my life away trying to 
>>>>>>> alter established history.  You revisionists are a total waste of 
>>>>>>> DNA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ... and you Jew types waisting Earths oxygen, big time!
>>>>> Here's a thought for you.... why don't you stop whining about Jews and 
>>>>> make something of your own life instead of trying to change the truth 
>>>>> of the Holocaust and blaming your worthless, miserable existence on 
>>>>> Jews?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Oh, I see Jew boy!
>>>> All revisionist are a Nazi, depressed, miserable, looser etc... 
>>>> stereotype!
>>> Precisely.  Glad you agree.
>>>
>>>> Why don't you stop whining about Nazis stupido, because they built great 
>>>> things without you Jews!
>>> Yeah.... and look at what they had to show for it.  A Germany completely 
>>> in ruins.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Go see a doctor for an eye exam, because you're so blind, unbelievable.
>> JS
> 
> My eyes are just fine, thank you.  Check these out and tell me I'm wrong...
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II
> 
> http://www.olive-drab.com/gallery/description_0017.php
> 
> http://langabi.name/gallery/germany04/Frankfurt_after_WW2_bombing#image
> 
> Yeppers, those Nazis really did those Germans good, didn't they?
> 
> 

I've seen those, so what?
What do you think would've happened to those Jap-Americans in US labor 
camps, if American cities would have been look like that?
JS




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>>>>>>>>> It's not funny at all.
>>>>>>>> Coming from YOU it is.  You are the one who is wasting his life 
>>>>>>>> away, trying to change history, trying to refute irrefutable facts.
>>>>>>> What irrefutable facts might they be, rozenboig?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Crazy-Ed-y suggesting,  4 million death over Auschwitz must be true 
>>>>>> now
>>>>> That's not what anyone ever claimed, and if that's what you are saying, 
>>>>> you are indeed, a liar.
>>>>>  Auschwitz was just one of dozens of concentration camps.
>>>>> Six million Jews along with millions of others perished among ALL of 
>>>>> those concentration camps, not just Auschwitz.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I see! After the war 6 million Jew death was claimed, including 4 
>>>> million at Auschwitz. Than in 1990 Auschwitz numbers were reduced by 3 
>>>> million, but magically the 6 million death still holding.
>>>> Wow! Jewish math at it's highest!
>>> Mathmatics not your strongpoint, huh?  Figures for someone who failed 
>>> first grade.
>>>
>>> I said the six million was a total from ALL the dozens of death camps 
>>> scattered throughout Europe.  NOT just from Auschwitz.
>>>
>>>> JS
>> Auschwitz claimed 4 million before 1990 idiot, can't you read?
>> Than was reduced to 1.1 million, that's all most 3 million less.
>> Final figures of total death  of 6 million, including the 4 million at 
>> Auschwitz was established few years after the war and financial 
>> compensation in billions of $$$$ was claimed by Israel and  Jewish 
>> survivors!
>> The other camps were included in the 2 million.
>> It's not 6 million + 4 million retard!
>> JS
> 
> Actually, the truth is that it was 6 million Jews in all concentration 
> camps, plus another 5 million from other groups.  A total of eleven million 
> died at the hands of the nazis.

Where is your proof, lier!


> 
> And, "Protagonist", there is nothing on God's green earth you can, or ever 
> will be able to do to change that fact.

It's all ready changed, moron!
Time to wake up!
JS

> 
> 
> 


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Ed wrote:
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>>>> Well where are the negatives it will tell us from what period of time 
>>>> and maybe the type of camera being used.
>>> What difference does that make?
>>> If it means that much to you, why don't you email the administrators of 
>>> the websites?
>> That's what revisionism is all about, bozo!
>> Any one can fabricate maps, pictures etc... and claim any thing. That's 
>> what Jews do best, since big money is made in Holohoax claims.
> 
> Oh, yeah.   All the Jews back in 1946 working diligently with their desktop 
> computers and their photo-editing programs in order to create a big hoax.
> 
> 

You don't need computers, traditional chemical process been around the 
turn of the centuries. My co-worker, who was into photography, use to do 
that, better than photo shop, except slower. Seen his work.
Just seen a documentary about the American civil war photos, lot of them 
are fake.
Photographers never went to the actual battles, it was to dangerous, so 
they staged photos of the events and send it back to the news media.
Wake up guy!
JS



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>>>> You could be right for the Germans the Jews were the greatest enemies. 
>>>> Since they were instrumental in the drafting of sanctions against 
>>>> Germany after world war I. Could this be the reason why all news paper 
>>>> articles from this period up until 1945 are banned for the Germans to 
>>>> see an compare. For without hate propaganda there is no holocaust 
>>>> extortion money to be made.
>>> So, even if the Jews being instrumental in the drafting of the sanctions 
>>> against Germany following WWI, (and I seriously doubt the veracity of 
>>> that statement), how does that justify the murder of 6 million of them?
>> No 
> 
> I was asking Kurt that question, idiot.  Not you.
> 
> But no matter what you post, it will never change the irrefutable fact that 
> six million Jews, plus another 5 million others, died during the Holocaust. 
> Go ahead and scream it was all a hoax.  It still doesn't, and never will, 
> change established history.
> 
> What a waste of life you are, "Protagonist."
> 
> 

It depends, who established it and what you want to belive.
I grew up E-Europe, during the Soviet communism, history were thought in 
schools were  ESTABLISHED by the system.
Turned out later, after the fall, half of it was lies, the rest was half 
truth.
JS



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>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe Sterling wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heinrich wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for setting it all straight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, excuse me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You forgot to mention that World War II actually never 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> happened, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Hitler himself was a Jew.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess you have proof for the above, idiot!
>>>>>>>>>>>> JS
>>>>>>>>>>> You ever heard of sarcasm, chump?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nooooo!
>>>>>>>>>> But I know dummies like you, plenty!
>>>>>>>>>> JS
>>>>>>>>> Excuse me, but I'm not the one who is wasting my life away trying 
>>>>>>>>> to alter established history.  You revisionists are a total waste 
>>>>>>>>> of DNA.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ... and you Jew types waisting Earths oxygen, big time!
>>>>>>> Here's a thought for you.... why don't you stop whining about Jews 
>>>>>>> and make something of your own life instead of trying to change the 
>>>>>>> truth of the Holocaust and blaming your worthless, miserable 
>>>>>>> existence on Jews?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, I see Jew boy!
>>>>>> All revisionist are a Nazi, depressed, miserable, looser etc... 
>>>>>> stereotype!
>>>>> Precisely.  Glad you agree.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why don't you stop whining about Nazis stupido, because they built 
>>>>>> great things without you Jews!
>>>>> Yeah.... and look at what they had to show for it.  A Germany 
>>>>> completely in ruins.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Go see a doctor for an eye exam, because you're so blind, unbelievable.
>>>> JS
>>> My eyes are just fine, thank you.  Check these out and tell me I'm 
>>> wrong...
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II
>>>
>>> http://www.olive-drab.com/gallery/description_0017.php
>>>
>>> http://langabi.name/gallery/germany04/Frankfurt_after_WW2_bombing#image
>>>
>>> Yeppers, those Nazis really did those Germans good, didn't they?
>>>
>>>
>> I've seen those, so what?
> 
> So what?  Thanks to your hero Adolf, THAT is what happened to Germany.

"Mal Gibson: Jews started both World Wars!"
Jews declared war on Germany in 1933!
JS


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Ed wrote:
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>> Ed wrote:
>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
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>>>> Ed wrote:
>>>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:KIudnS8XSYq4LTTYnZ2dnUVZ_r2onZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>> Ed wrote:
>>>>>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>> news:D4idnRpZjPsbPDTYnZ2dnUVZ_rCsnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>> B Horatio Cramer wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Ed"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>> news:2ImdnciQqNpZ4zTYnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>>> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>> news:ugeqh.640846$5R2.550486@pd7urf3no...
>>>>>>>>>>> It's not funny at all.
>>>>>>>>>> Coming from YOU it is.  You are the one who is wasting his life 
>>>>>>>>>> away, trying to change history, trying to refute irrefutable 
>>>>>>>>>> facts.
>>>>>>>>> What irrefutable facts might they be, rozenboig?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Crazy-Ed-y suggesting,  4 million death over Auschwitz must be true 
>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>> That's not what anyone ever claimed, and if that's what you are 
>>>>>>> saying, you are indeed, a liar.
>>>>>>>  Auschwitz was just one of dozens of concentration camps.
>>>>>>> Six million Jews along with millions of others perished among ALL of 
>>>>>>> those concentration camps, not just Auschwitz.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see! After the war 6 million Jew death was claimed, including 4 
>>>>>> million at Auschwitz. Than in 1990 Auschwitz numbers were reduced by 3 
>>>>>> million, but magically the 6 million death still holding.
>>>>>> Wow! Jewish math at it's highest!
>>>>> Mathmatics not your strongpoint, huh?  Figures for someone who failed 
>>>>> first grade.
>>>>>
>>>>> I said the six million was a total from ALL the dozens of death camps 
>>>>> scattered throughout Europe.  NOT just from Auschwitz.
>>>>>
>>>>>> JS
>>>> Auschwitz claimed 4 million before 1990 idiot, can't you read?
>>>> Than was reduced to 1.1 million, that's all most 3 million less.
>>>> Final figures of total death  of 6 million, including the 4 million at 
>>>> Auschwitz was established few years after the war and financial 
>>>> compensation in billions of $$$$ was claimed by Israel and  Jewish 
>>>> survivors!
>>>> The other camps were included in the 2 million.
>>>> It's not 6 million + 4 million retard!
>>>> JS
>>> Actually, the truth is that it was 6 million Jews in all concentration 
>>> camps, plus another 5 million from other groups.  A total of eleven 
>>> million died at the hands of the nazis.
>> Where is your proof, lier!
> 
> I gave you your proof in the response to Knoll, idiot.  Photos don't lie.

That's no proof, lier!

> 
>>
>>> And, "Protagonist", there is nothing on God's green earth you can, or 
>>> ever will be able to do to change that fact.
>> It's all ready changed, moron!
> 
> No it hasn't, and your ranting won't matter.  You are irrelevant and 
> ineffectual, so nothing you say will ever change the truth of history.

Talking about your self, lier?!
JS

> 
> 
> 


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Ed wrote:
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>>>>> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>> Well where are the negatives it will tell us from what period of time 
>>>>>> and maybe the type of camera being used.
>>>>> What difference does that make?
>>>>> If it means that much to you, why don't you email the administrators of 
>>>>> the websites?
>>>> That's what revisionism is all about, bozo!
>>>> Any one can fabricate maps, pictures etc... and claim any thing. That's 
>>>> what Jews do best, since big money is made in Holohoax claims.
>>> Oh, yeah.   All the Jews back in 1946 working diligently with their 
>>> desktop computers and their photo-editing programs in order to create a 
>>> big hoax.
>>>
>>>
>> You don't need computers, traditional chemical process been around the 
>> turn of the centuries. My co-worker, who was into photography, use to do 
>> that, better than photo shop, except slower. Seen his work.
>> Just seen a documentary about the American civil war photos, lot of them 
>> are fake.
>> Photographers never went to the actual battles, it was to dangerous, so 
>> they staged photos of the events and send it back to the news media.
>> Wake up guy!
> 
> So, then, the photos that were NOT taken by Jews, by the way, but by Allied 
> forces who liberated the concentration camps.... you are saying that the 
> Allied soldiers purposely doctored up the pictures in order to create a 
> hoax.
> 
> Rant and rave all you want.  You will never, EVER change established 
> history.

I guess they forgot to take pictures  of my teacher, who was a POW of 
the USforces in Germany with many thousands, after WW2.
His weight went down below 40 kg, few months after capture.
  You know why? Can you guess it?
There was very little or no food! They even ate the grass in the back 
yard of the camp.
  Now you can show all the pictures what the Allies took of bone skinny 
inmates.
Include the Axis POW's too. Also, the ones in the Soviet gulags.
Not too many came back, eh? Must had a good time there and stayed in 
Siberia with a fat Russian babushka.
Have a good Holohoax day, retard.
JS




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Ed wrote:
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>> Ed wrote:
>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>>> news:3oudnTgSFbjSLjfYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Ed wrote:
>>>>> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:%Gvqh.653091$1T2.217371@pd7urf2no...
>>>>>> You could be right for the Germans the Jews were the greatest enemies. 
>>>>>> Since they were instrumental in the drafting of sanctions against 
>>>>>> Germany after world war I. Could this be the reason why all news paper 
>>>>>> articles from this period up until 1945 are banned for the Germans to 
>>>>>> see an compare. For without hate propaganda there is no holocaust 
>>>>>> extortion money to be made.
>>>>> So, even if the Jews being instrumental in the drafting of the 
>>>>> sanctions against Germany following WWI, (and I seriously doubt the 
>>>>> veracity of that statement), how does that justify the murder of 6 
>>>>> million of them?
>>>> No 
>>> I was asking Kurt that question, idiot.  Not you.
>>>
>>> But no matter what you post, it will never change the irrefutable fact 
>>> that six million Jews, plus another 5 million others, died during the 
>>> Holocaust. Go ahead and scream it was all a hoax.  It still doesn't, and 
>>> never will, change established history.
>>>
>>> What a waste of life you are, "Protagonist."
>>>
>>>
>> It depends, who established it and what you want to belive.
> 
> I will believe the established truth from the past 60 years, thank you.

Established without proof to keep the Holohoax cash register ringing!
Ring! Ring!
Another $$$ for a fake dead Jew!
> 
>> I grew up E-Europe, during the Soviet communism, history were thought in 
>> schools were  ESTABLISHED by the system.
>> Turned out later, after the fall, half of it was lies, the rest was half 
>> truth.
> 
> Well, I grew up in freedom.  Pity you had to be brought up under an 
> oppressive system that lied to you.  But that doesn't give you the right to 
> lie to everyone else.

Only dick lying here is you!
But truth will prevail soon.

JS



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127.0.0.1 wrote:
> Ed wrote:
> 
> 
>>> It depends, who established it and what you want to belive.
>> I will believe the established truth from the past 60 years, thank you.
>>
> 
> Your ilk was whining about 6-million in WW-l Ed, It turned out to be lies,
> just like the 6-million of WW-ll.
> 
> 

Poor Jew Ed, he has to go on some thing, to survive!
JS


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>>>> Ed wrote:
>>>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>>>> Ed wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>> Ed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>> news:YfWdnfuqKIZ9yTTYnZ2dnUVZ_vzinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:m4KdnV3t_NM3PjXYnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe Sterling wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heinrich wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for setting it all straight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, excuse me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You forgot to mention that World War II actually never 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happened, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Hitler himself was a Jew.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess you have proof for the above, idiot!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You ever heard of sarcasm, chump?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nooooo!
>>>>>>>>>>>> But I know dummies like you, plenty!
>>>>>>>>>>>> JS
>>>>>>>>>>> Excuse me, but I'm not the one who is wasting my life away trying 
>>>>>>>>>>> to alter established history.  You revisionists are a total waste 
>>>>>>>>>>> of DNA.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ... and you Jew types waisting Earths oxygen, big time!
>>>>>>>>> Here's a thought for you.... why don't you stop whining about Jews 
>>>>>>>>> and make something of your own life instead of trying to change the 
>>>>>>>>> truth of the Holocaust and blaming your worthless, miserable 
>>>>>>>>> existence on Jews?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh, I see Jew boy!
>>>>>>>> All revisionist are a Nazi, depressed, miserable, looser etc... 
>>>>>>>> stereotype!
>>>>>>> Precisely.  Glad you agree.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why don't you stop whining about Nazis stupido, because they built 
>>>>>>>> great things without you Jews!
>>>>>>> Yeah.... and look at what they had to show for it.  A Germany 
>>>>>>> completely in ruins.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Go see a doctor for an eye exam, because you're so blind, 
>>>>>> unbelievable.
>>>>>> JS
>>>>> My eyes are just fine, thank you.  Check these out and tell me I'm 
>>>>> wrong...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.olive-drab.com/gallery/description_0017.php
>>>>>
>>>>> http://langabi.name/gallery/germany04/Frankfurt_after_WW2_bombing#image
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeppers, those Nazis really did those Germans good, didn't they?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I've seen those, so what?
>>> So what?  Thanks to your hero Adolf, THAT is what happened to Germany.
>> "Mal Gibson: Jews started both World Wars!"
> 
> His name is MEL, you flaming retard!!  And he certainly is no expert on 
> world history.

Knows more than you, retard!

> 
>> Jews declared war on Germany in 1933!
>> JS
> 
> Yeah, what chapter of your Bible known as The Protocols of the Elders of 
> Zion did you get that crap from?

Read on, retard!
http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html
JS

> 
> 


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Ed wrote:
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>> Ed wrote:
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>>>> Ed wrote:
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>>>>>> Ed wrote:
>>>>>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>>>> Ed wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>> news:D4idnRpZjPsbPDTYnZ2dnUVZ_rCsnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>>> B Horatio Cramer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "Ed"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>> news:2ImdnciQqNpZ4zTYnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ugeqh.640846$5R2.550486@pd7urf3no...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not funny at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Coming from YOU it is.  You are the one who is wasting his life 
>>>>>>>>>>>> away, trying to change history, trying to refute irrefutable 
>>>>>>>>>>>> facts.
>>>>>>>>>>> What irrefutable facts might they be, rozenboig?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Crazy-Ed-y suggesting,  4 million death over Auschwitz must be 
>>>>>>>>>> true now
>>>>>>>>> That's not what anyone ever claimed, and if that's what you are 
>>>>>>>>> saying, you are indeed, a liar.
>>>>>>>>>  Auschwitz was just one of dozens of concentration camps.
>>>>>>>>> Six million Jews along with millions of others perished among ALL 
>>>>>>>>> of those concentration camps, not just Auschwitz.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I see! After the war 6 million Jew death was claimed, including 4 
>>>>>>>> million at Auschwitz. Than in 1990 Auschwitz numbers were reduced by 
>>>>>>>> 3 million, but magically the 6 million death still holding.
>>>>>>>> Wow! Jewish math at it's highest!
>>>>>>> Mathmatics not your strongpoint, huh?  Figures for someone who failed 
>>>>>>> first grade.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I said the six million was a total from ALL the dozens of death camps 
>>>>>>> scattered throughout Europe.  NOT just from Auschwitz.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> JS
>>>>>> Auschwitz claimed 4 million before 1990 idiot, can't you read?
>>>>>> Than was reduced to 1.1 million, that's all most 3 million less.
>>>>>> Final figures of total death  of 6 million, including the 4 million at 
>>>>>> Auschwitz was established few years after the war and financial 
>>>>>> compensation in billions of $$$$ was claimed by Israel and  Jewish 
>>>>>> survivors!
>>>>>> The other camps were included in the 2 million.
>>>>>> It's not 6 million + 4 million retard!
>>>>>> JS
>>>>> Actually, the truth is that it was 6 million Jews in all concentration 
>>>>> camps, plus another 5 million from other groups.  A total of eleven 
>>>>> million died at the hands of the nazis.
>>>> Where is your proof, lier!
>>> I gave you your proof in the response to Knoll, idiot.  Photos don't lie.
>> That's no proof, lier!
>>
>>>>> And, "Protagonist", there is nothing on God's green earth you can, or 
>>>>> ever will be able to do to change that fact.
>>>> It's all ready changed, moron!
>>> No it hasn't, and your ranting won't matter.  You are irrelevant and 
>>> ineffectual, so nothing you say will ever change the truth of history.
>> Talking about your self, lier?!
> 
> No, you, and ONLY you.  You are irrelevant and ineffectual, and nothing you 
> say will ever change the truth of history.

Right! Get lost or polish some diamond!
Nothing else you can do!
JS

> 
>> JS
> (initials stand for "Jumbo Shitstain", no doubt)
> 
> 
> 


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McVay the lier!
Do you still have those proofs for the 200,000 deported Jews from Budapest?
JS


Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
> In article ,
> Leading Revisionist Scholar Szaki the Protagonist   wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>> It's all ready changed, moron!
> 
> Speaking of morons, oh dimwitted szaki:
> 
> 
> Question 1:
> -----------
> 
> On June 13, 2005, you wrote:
> 
> "Although a final figure of Jews killed by the Einsatzgruppen has never been 
>  presented, the most extreme estimates by Yad Vashem and others say that 
>  between 900,000 and 1.25 million people - Jews and others - were killed by 
>  the special action units."
> 
> "This figure is without doubt a gross exaggeration, considering that the 
>  Einsatzgruppen never had more than 3,000 men in total serving in its units 
>  at any one time, and furthermore spent most of their time fighting 
>  partisans." 
> 
> "But even if this grossly exaggerated figure is accurate - and all evidence 
>  is that it is not - this grandiose figure is still nowhere near the 5 
>  million Jews the Nazis estimated were in the Soviet Union's territory." 
> 
> (Szaki, UseNet alt.revisionism, Message ID 
>  6oadnbn35bIiozDfRVn-1Q@comcast.com)
> 
> Please document your claim that the figure 1.2 million is a gross exaggeration,
> and then produce the "all evidence" mentioned in your third paragraph.
> 
> Include the name of publications containing this "all evidence,", the pages
> upon which this "all evidence" can be found, the publisher and publication
> date, and the author's name.
> 
> Question 2:
> -----------
> 
> On June 15, 2005, in response to the publication of document PS-2615 (First
> Nurnberg Tribunal), in which Wilhelm Hoettl explained that he had been
> told that 6 million Jews had died, you wrote:
> 
> "Sworn testimony, after torture! Nice try, moron!" (Szaki. UseNet alt.revisionism,
> Message ID X46dneLExIw3ajLfRVn-sg@comcast.com)
> 
> Please provide evidence that Herr Hoettl was, in fact, tortured.
> 
> Question 3:
> -----------
> 
> In article , on June 18, 2005, you
> asserted that Sgt. Ragene Farris, who served in the 329th Medical Battalion and
> described the horrors American troops had to face during the liberation of 
> the "Boelcke Kazerne" in Nordhausen concentration camp provided a fictional
> account. You wrote:
> 
> "Thank you JJ, this story of courage of Sergeant Ragene Farris really made me
> cry, very nice, heart breaking fictional tale."
> 
> Please provide documentary evidence which proves that condtions were not
> as Sgt. Farris described them.
> 
> Question 4:
> -----------
> On August 19, 2005, in article , you wrote:
> 
> "Why don't you talk about your stupid, boring, Nizkor website, all the
> cut/paste, fake stories and pictures."
> 
> Which pictures and stories, precisely, are "fake?" Please provide your evidence
> that specific pictures and/or stories are fake.
> 
> Question 5:
> -----------
> 
> On September 24th, 2005, you wrote:
> 
> In article ,
> szaki   wrote:
> 
>>> http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/imt/nca/ftp.py?imt/nca/nca-05/nca-05-2615-ps
>  
>> *You're using Nizkor fake information, Brum-Brum-Bruno!
> 
> Please produce documentary evidence that Hoettl's sworn statement, which
> constituted document 2615-PS for the First Nurnberg Tribunal, is "fake 
> information."
> 
> Please demonstrate, again with documentary evidence, that Nizkor's copy of
> this document is not an textually exact rendering of 2615-PS.
> 
> Question 6:
> -----------
> 
> On October 1, 2005, you wrote the following of the statement of Dr. Sigmund Rascher:
> 
> In article ,
> szaki   wrote:
>> Ron Jacobson wrote:
>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.py?people/r/rascher.sigmund//images/Rascher1.jpg
>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.py?people/r/rascher.sigmund//images/Rascher2.jpg
> 
> [...]
>  
>> *Nice forgeries, like the 4 million death at Auschwitz and any thing 
>> else about the Holocau$t!
> 
> Please produce documented evidence that the Rascher statement, as shown on 
> two Nizkor Project images, are forgeries.
> 
> Please list the Western historians who cited the 4-Million figure as valid.
> 
> Question 7
> ----------
> 
> On October 2, 2005, in article ,
> you made the following claim:
> 
> "First, EG report was way inflated about numbers executed. EG all ways
> reported at least twice as much back to Germany, to make them self look
> good"
> 
> Please produce documented evidence that the Einsatzgruppen reports used inflated numbers.
> Cite the name of the report in question, and document your claim with respect to that
> report.
> 
> Question 8
> ----------
> 
> On October 23, 2005, in article ,
> you wrote:
> 
>> Running a website for profit, so called Nizkor, cashing in on other 
>> people misfortune and misery!
> 
> Please present evidence that Nizkor is run for a profit. 
> 


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Ed wrote:
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>> Ed wrote:
>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>>> news:NZ-dndBqFPXyJjfYnZ2dnUVZ_vGinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Ed wrote:
>>>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:VYudnYq9Qp-uLTfYnZ2dnUVZ_tmknZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>> Ed wrote:
>>>>>>> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>> news:65wqh.667994$R63.601839@pd7urf1no...
>>>>>>>> Well where are the negatives it will tell us from what period of 
>>>>>>>> time and maybe the type of camera being used.
>>>>>>> What difference does that make?
>>>>>>> If it means that much to you, why don't you email the administrators 
>>>>>>> of the websites?
>>>>>> That's what revisionism is all about, bozo!
>>>>>> Any one can fabricate maps, pictures etc... and claim any thing. 
>>>>>> That's what Jews do best, since big money is made in Holohoax claims.
>>>>> Oh, yeah.   All the Jews back in 1946 working diligently with their 
>>>>> desktop computers and their photo-editing programs in order to create a 
>>>>> big hoax.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> You don't need computers, traditional chemical process been around the 
>>>> turn of the centuries. My co-worker, who was into photography, use to do 
>>>> that, better than photo shop, except slower. Seen his work.
>>>> Just seen a documentary about the American civil war photos, lot of them 
>>>> are fake.
>>>> Photographers never went to the actual battles, it was to dangerous, so 
>>>> they staged photos of the events and send it back to the news media.
>>>> Wake up guy!
>>> So, then, the photos that were NOT taken by Jews, by the way, but by 
>>> Allied forces who liberated the concentration camps.... you are saying 
>>> that the Allied soldiers purposely doctored up the pictures in order to 
>>> create a hoax.
>>>
>>> Rant and rave all you want.  You will never, EVER change established 
>>> history.
>> I guess they forgot to take pictures  of my teacher, who was a POW of the 
>> USforces in Germany with many thousands, after WW2.
>> His weight went down below 40 kg, few months after capture.
>>  You know why? Can you guess it?
>> There was very little or no food! They even ate the grass in the back yard 
>> of the camp.
>>  Now you can show all the pictures what the Allies took of bone skinny 
>> inmates.
>> Include the Axis POW's too. Also, the ones in the Soviet gulags.
>> Not too many came back, eh? Must had a good time there and stayed in 
>> Siberia with a fat Russian babushka.
>> Have a good Holohoax day, retard.
> 
> None of which proves anything at all, of course.

It proves a lot, because I knew people who were there, including my 
family members.

> 
> Certainly there were non-concentration camp victims.  It was a WAR, stupid. 
> People suffer in wars.

That's right, including some Joos, but not 6 million, not even close!
Some 50 million people died in WW2.
Guess what? They were not all Jew and no one erect museums for them or 
pay compensation after them.
Including 9 million Germans or 20 million Russians.
Thanks to the Jews, they started all the wars and made the all the money 
over it.
JS


> 
>> JS
>>
>>
> 
> 


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Ed wrote:
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> news:utSdnS2LsePEVzfYnZ2dnUVZ_qyjnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Ed wrote:
>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>>> news:O6KdnYeVhOIeITfYnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Ed wrote:
>>>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:3oudnTgSFbjSLjfYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>> Ed wrote:
>>>>>>> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>> news:%Gvqh.653091$1T2.217371@pd7urf2no...
>>>>>>>> You could be right for the Germans the Jews were the greatest 
>>>>>>>> enemies. Since they were instrumental in the drafting of sanctions 
>>>>>>>> against Germany after world war I. Could this be the reason why all 
>>>>>>>> news paper articles from this period up until 1945 are banned for 
>>>>>>>> the Germans to see an compare. For without hate propaganda there is 
>>>>>>>> no holocaust extortion money to be made.
>>>>>>> So, even if the Jews being instrumental in the drafting of the 
>>>>>>> sanctions against Germany following WWI, (and I seriously doubt the 
>>>>>>> veracity of that statement), how does that justify the murder of 6 
>>>>>>> million of them?
>>>>>> No 
>>>>> I was asking Kurt that question, idiot.  Not you.
>>>>>
>>>>> But no matter what you post, it will never change the irrefutable fact 
>>>>> that six million Jews, plus another 5 million others, died during the 
>>>>> Holocaust. Go ahead and scream it was all a hoax.  It still doesn't, 
>>>>> and never will, change established history.
>>>>>
>>>>> What a waste of life you are, "Protagonist."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It depends, who established it and what you want to belive.
>>> I will believe the established truth from the past 60 years, thank you.
>> Established without proof to keep the Holohoax cash register ringing!
>> Ring! Ring!
>> Another $$$ for a fake dead Jew!
>>>> I grew up E-Europe, during the Soviet communism, history were thought in 
>>>> schools were  ESTABLISHED by the system.
>>>> Turned out later, after the fall, half of it was lies, the rest was half 
>>>> truth.
>>> Well, I grew up in freedom.  Pity you had to be brought up under an 
>>> oppressive system that lied to you.  But that doesn't give you the right 
>>> to lie to everyone else.
>> Only dick lying here is you!
> 
> With all your blather and accusing me of lying, I have not seen one single 
> link to any reliable source that backs up ANYTHING you say.  I have provided 
> numerous links that give IRREFUTABLE proof of the facts of the Holocaust.
> 
> You are all hot stinking farts and nothing else, and I will no longer answer 
> your posts.
> 
> Perhaps I would if you had something substantive to say, but you don't. 
> Have fun in hell, you grand ol' fart.

Your proofs are old boring stuff. Has been played many times.
Only McVay types getting rich over it, retards like you fall for it.
JS

> 
> 


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B Horatio Cramer wrote:
> 
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
> news:5vidnbyI6pw9KTfYnZ2dnUVZ_o2vnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> jgarbuz wrote:
>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
>>>> And how many of the so called holocaust survivors who were never in a
>>>> concentration camp are collecting. Like Norman Finkelstein in his 
>>>> book the
>>>> holocaust industries wrote. Anyone wanted to qualify how much proof was
>>>> required to qualify.<
>>>
>>> Germany is not a profligate country, and doesn't hand out money without
>>> some proof. Germany is not like the USA. So anyone who got money from
>>> Germany suffered from Nazi murder and oppression, whether they were
>>> actually in a camp, or hiding on  a farm or in the forests. My mother
>>> lived worse than any animal even though she was not in a camp. But she
>>> asked for no reparations. Others chose to get false witnesses of some
>>> who were in the camps, to testify that they too were in    the camp,
>>> and that is how they got more money. But it is a lie to say that
>>> anyone, any Jew anywhere, could claim and get money. The US does things
>>> like that, but not Germany. No matter what, you did need some kind of
>>> proof of Nazi genocidal oppression to collect from Germany.
>>
>> Most Holohoax money is payed to Israel and not to survivors.
>> Some 60 billion was payed by Germany as Holocau$t compensation after 
>> the war, more than 2/3 of that money went into Israels infrastructure 
>> and not to survivors.
>> JS
> 
> And a lot of it went toward building Holocaust(tm) museums and memorials.
> 
> In the business world this is known as "marketing."

Holohoax is a business.
JS


> 
> 
> 
>>
>>>
>>>> Kurt Knoll.
>>>>
>>>> "jgarbuz"  wrote in message
>>>> news:1168708853.696987.111610@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Wiedergutmachung
>>>> >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
>>>>
>>>> The German word Wiedergutmachung after World War II refers to the
>>>> reparations that the German government agreed to pay to the direct
>>>> survivors of the Holocaust, and to those who were made to work as
>>>> forced labour or who otherwise became victims of the Nazis.
>>>>
>>>> The noun Wiedergutmachung is the general term for "restitution" or
>>>> "reparation". The noun is made up of wieder ("again"), gut ("good" or
>>>> "well"), and machung, a verbal noun of machen ("to make"). The verb
>>>> wiedergutmachen means literally "to make well again" or to compensate.
>>>> Wiedergutmachungsgeld means "Wiedergutmachung money".
>>>>
>>>> In the former East Germany, the wiedergutmachung was mostly to Poland
>>>> and the former USSR.
>>>>
>>>> The German federal office in charge of this issue is BEG (abbreviation
>>>> for "Bundesentschädigungsgesetz", which translates into English as
>>>> "Federal Compensation Law") which, in its charter, states:
>>>>
>>>>     Individuals who were persecuted for political, racial, religious or
>>>> ideological reasons by the wartime German regime are eligible for money
>>>> from the German government under the terms of the Federal Compensation
>>>> Law (BEG) of 1953 and 1956. This includes Jews who were interned in
>>>> camps or ghettos, were obliged to wear the star badge, or who lived in
>>>> hiding.
>>>>
>>>> Only people who were directly victimised are eligible for
>>>> Wiedergutmachung, and not, for example, offspring born after the war or
>>>> grandchildren. Statistics concerning Wiedergutmachung payments were
>>>> released by the BEG through the mid-1980's, but have not since been
>>>> publicly released. As of the mid-1980s, over four million claims had
>>>> been filed and paid. Approximately 40% of the claims were from Israel,
>>>> where many Holocaust survivors live, 20% were from Germany, and 40%
>>>> were from other countries.
>>>>
>>>> [edit] See also
>>>>
>>>>     * Grundgesetz
>>>>     * Claims Conference
>>>
>>
> 


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Ron Jacobson wrote:
> In article <3oudnTgSFbjSLjfYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> Protagonist   wrote:
> 
>    ("Holocaust revisionism" drivel snipped)
> 
>    Just deal with the evidence,  Julius.
> 
>    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1673471.stm
> 
>    Mass graves found at Nazi camp
> Researchers have discovered seven mass graves at the Sobibor Nazi
> death camp in north-eastern Poland.
> 
>    The research team,  which began its government-sponsored investigation
> in the summer,  said the graves -- the largest of which is about half
> the size of a football pitch -- contain charred remains.

"contain charred remains."
Where is the forensic evidence?

>    A very elaborate study of the mass graves in the Belzec death camp was
> conducted a few years ago by a team of Polish archaeologists,  headed by
> Prof. Andrzej Kola from the University of Torun in Poland,  who is the
> author of more than 130 papers on archaeology.  The team studied the site
> of the death camp,  drilling 1,700 bore holes and investigating the core
> samples.  The results are summarized in an 84 page report (ANDRZEJ KOLA:
> "BELZEC.  THE NAZI CAMP FOR JEWS IN THE LIGHT OF ARCHAEOLOGICAL SOURCES.
> Excavations 1997-1999".  ISBN 83-905590-6-4).  The study has recovered
> human remains over a very large area,  to a depth of up to six meters.
> The minimal estimate to the volume of the graves is 21,000 cubic meters.
> 


http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2006/05/carlo-mattogno-on-belzec.html
 >>The only way to dispel any uncertainty would obviously have been to 
unearth the corpses buried in the graves – why did the Polish 
authorities not do this? If the main objective of the archeological 
research was the identification of the mass graves, why were the corpses 
buried in these graves not exhumed? When the Germans discovered the 
graves of the victims of the Soviet NKVD at Katyn and Vinnytsya, they 
did not simply drill holes in the ground with a manual drill – they 
opened the graves, exhumed the corpses, did autopsies, and tried to 
identify them.
On April 13, 1943, on the basis of information from the local 
population, the Germans discovered seven graves containing a total of 
4,143 corpses of Polish soldiers in the forest of Katyn. Between April 
and June, the bodies were examined by a commission consisting of 
physicians from twelve European countries, by a commission of the Polish 
Red Cross, and by U.S., British, and Canadian officers who were 
prisoners of war. The Germans then published an official report with the 
forensic medical findings of the investigation, containing 80 
photographs and the names of the victims identified.234 The Vinnytsya 
massacres were discovered by the Germans in the beginning of June 1943. 
Ninety-seven mass graves were found in three different locations, 
containing the bodies of 9,432 Ukrainians murdered by the Soviets. 
Between June 24 and August 25 no fewer than 14 commissions, 6 of them 
mcomposed of foreigners, visited the mass graves. Again, the Germans 
collected the results of their findings in a substantial publication: 
282 pages with 151 photographs, with forensic medical reports, and 
victims’ names.235 Why, then, were the corpses of the mass graves at 
Belzec not exhumed?[…]
Andrzej Kola, who was supposed to furnish the ‘material proof’ of the 
alleged extermination at Belzec, did not take these facts into account; 
because of this the layout he gives for the graves is completely random, 
as is their surface area, their volume, and even their number.<<
> RJ.


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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be Protagonist wrote
>          in message <9Kudne-2SIi6xzbYnZ2dnUVZ_segnZ2d@comcast.com>: 
> 
>> Ron Jacobson wrote:
> 
>>>    The research team,  which began its government-sponsored investigation
>>> in the summer,  said the graves -- the largest of which is about half
>>> the size of a football pitch -- contain charred remains.
> 
>> "contain charred remains."
>> Where is the forensic evidence?
> 
> That the remains are charred?
> 
> Ummm -- that would be the remains themselves.  Do try to keep up.

Please, Roger come into the 21st century!
Forensic work can be done accurately on burned bodies easy!
Some times watch the TV series "Forensic science" and learn.
JS



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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be Protagonist wrote
>          in message : 
> 
>> Holohoax is a business.
> 
> ... which the likes of duke, zundel and irving are milking for all
> it's worth.
> 
> Keep those donations coming, idiot.

We know Roger, you rather buy tickets to Holohoax museums!
JS



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Gord McFee wrote:
> On 1/15/2007 2:47 PM, Curly C wrote:
> 
>> Roger must be the only holohoaxer left who continues to raise the 
>> numbers of dead. Ole Roger is up to 11 million now......do I hear 12 
>> million.....how about 13 million.
> 
> Somewhere in the vicinity of 6 million Jews.  Somewhere in the vicinity
> of 2 million Russian prisoners of war.
> 
> That gives you 8 million just for starters.
> 

Can you back it up or you just vomiting here?
JS


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watch this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SuAAQ4cKCE&mode=related&search=


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http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/posters/snake1.jpg
JS

kmcvay@nizkor.org.nospam wrote:
> [Follow-ups set]
> 
> January 22
> 
> 1944
> 
> The Fascist government of northern Italy (RSI) orders all
> Jews previously exempted from arrest to be taken to
> concentration camps. (USHMM, 1994. Pg. 26)
> 
> Executive Order 9417 establishes the War Refugee Board
> (WRB), which is mandated to take "all measures within [U.S.]
> power to rescue the victims of enemy oppression who are in
> imminent danger of death" and to provide "relief and
> assistance consistent with the successful prosecution of the
> war." President Roosevelt instructs the Departments of
> State, Treasury, and War to execute the plans, programs, and
> measures formulated by the WRB and to supply the WRB with
> information and assistance. The WRB is also empowered to
> accept the services or contributions of private persons and
> organizations. John Pehle is appointed executive director of
> the WRB. (Ibid.)
> 
> Seventy-seven homosexual prisoners are among a transport of
> one thousand prisoners to the Dora concentration camp, a
> satellite camp of Buchenwald. Several homosexual prisoners
> are later transferred to Ellrich and Harzungen subcamps.  (Ibid.)
> 
> 
>                          Work Cited
>                               
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
>    Years Ago: Darkness Before Dawn: Days of Remembrance, April
>    3-10, 1994. Washington, D.C.: 1994


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Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
> In article <1169473034.287452.94170@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com>,
>   wrote:
> 
> [Blather flushed straight down the baron]
> 
>> How stupid do you think people are, Mr. Baron?
> 
> It's important to remember that Leading Revisionist Scholars like Mr. Baron have
> demonstrated, over and over again for more than a decade, that they are, as a group,
> unbelievably stupid.
> 
> Alex Vangel, for instance, praises Jews for being responsible for creating "First World"
> nations while damning them for controlling those selfsame nations.
> 
> Kurt Knoll and his brother are morons, as is "Ben Cramer."
> 
> Need I even mention Tom Moran? Bradbury & the Sterno King? The "Reverend" Ronald Schoedel
> III, Leslie Griswold, the Hubers, Dan Gannon?
> 
> As Elizabeth Moore points out, if you're dumb enough to swallow Holocaust denial, you're
> dumb enough to believe anything.
> 
> Mr. Baron and his idiological fellows are simply too dumb to conceive of a world
> populated with people with minds that actually work. It is beyond their mental capacity
> to do so.
> 

So! How much money have you made McVay with your Holohoax website?
JS


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How much money did you make so far over your Holohoax lies, McVay?
JS


kmcvay@nizkor.org.nospam wrote:
> [Follow-ups set]
> 
> January 24
> 
> 1940
> 
> Three Jews in the village of Zelech'ow were stripped bare in 25 
> degree weather.  After the Germans poured water over them, they 
> were ordered to run around a telephone pole for half an hour.
> (The Black Book of Poland, 227)
> 
> 1944
> 
> The Lodz Gestapo office informs the Auschwitz camp
> commandant that hereafter all documents of prisoners killed
> there are to be destroyed immediately and that such papers
> and personal effects are not to be sent back to the families
> of the deceased. The families are to be informed that
> personal effects cannot be returned. (USHMM, 1994. Pg. 26)
> 
> 
> 			Work Cited
> 
> Poland, Ministerstwo Informacji [Ministry of Information].  The 
>    Black Book of Poland.  New York:  G. P. Putnam's Sons, 1942.
> 
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
>    Years Ago: Darkness Before Dawn: Days of Remembrance, April
>    3-10, 1994. Washington, D.C.: 1994


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5,999,999 wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6305005.stm
> 
> International events are being held to mark Holocaust Memorial Day in 
> memory of the six million Jews and other victims of the Nazi death 
> camps.
> 
> Most of the commemorations take place on 27 January - the date on 
> which the Auschwitz concentration camp was liberated by the Soviets in 
> 1945.
> 
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6305005.stm
> 

Article don't mansion any thing about the Soviet army after liberation 
of Auschwitz raped all female inmates in the camp!
JS


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znRrGfMc700&mode=related&search=

I would make a movie, when the Red Army raps all the woman in Auschwitz 
and Berlin!
LOL!
JS


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Protagonist wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znRrGfMc700&mode=related&search=
> 
> I would make a movie, when the Red Army raps all the woman in Auschwitz 
> and Berlin!
> LOL!
> JS

For the weaker minds: "rapes"
JS


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Matt Lauer Corners Bush on Torture
Watch this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp4vLBvU1bA&mode=related&search=
JS


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Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
> In article <45BD5C01.C06F4548@nospam.net>, Hello   wrote:
>> Jews continue to harass Christians
>>
>> Jewish groups continue to scour the internet seeking out anyone who
>> questions the holocaust figure or who makes the slightest comment about
>> Jews. They think it's fine to harass Christians and make TV programs
> 
> They do? Please document this bizarre accusation.
> 
>> * They try to send those people viruses to harass them.
> 
> They do? Please document these accusations.
> 
>> * They try to get these law abiding citizens fired from their jobs.
> 
> They do? Please document these accusations.
> 
>> * They try to get these people denied income.
> 
> They do? Please document these accusations.
>> * They try to block those people's emails and use of the Internet.
> 
> They do? Please document these accusations.
> 
>> * They try to masquerade as other people, perhaps a cute girl, to
>> befriend the person over the Internet. Then, by chatting with him, try
>> to get derogatory personal information and spread it around to harass
>> that person.
> 
> They do? Please document this accusation.
> 
>> * In Europe, they get books banned which say the slightest thing about
>> Judaism or point out famous Jews who caused problems, like Karl Marx.
>> But they themselves publish highly derogatory books against Christianity
>> which promote atheism.
> 
> Please document these accusations, and present your case in response to the assertion
> that you are an abject moron.
> 
> I'll wait.
> 
> 

I have not seen a movie/TV show, where gangsters, prostitutes or 
negative characters would wear the Star of David or any other Jewish 
insignia jewelry on them.
Seems all prostitutes, murderers, gangsters or other stereo types are 
Christians in Hollywood movies. When it's the opposite in real life.
Recently seen the movie "The Whore", where the greedy negative 
characters, like the prostitute and her pimp were whites, good guy is a 
black man, helping the blond white girl.
Prostitutes are  all wearing large Christian crosses in the movie.
Must be a Jew company, financier or director who made this movie.
I see this pattern over and over in other Hollywood movies.


JS



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ataturkey wrote:
> On Jan 29, 5:18 am, Gord McFee  wrote:
>> On 1/28/2007 3:54 PM, Protagonist wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znRrGfMc700&mode=related&search=
>>> I would make a movie, when the Red Army raps all the woman in Auschwitz
>>> and Berlin!
> 
>> Quite the rappers, those Red Army guys.
> 
> 
> Do you think that some of the stuff the Nazis did or supposed to have 
> done to the Jews is also funny?
> 
> Why should anyone care about your complaints if you care nothing about 
> others?
> 
> Have a nice vegetarian day!
> 
>> --
>> Gord McFee
>> I'll write no line before its time
>>
>> Visit the Holocaust History Projecthttp://www.holocaust-history.org
> 

Joe Kennedy:
"As ambassador to England, Joe would later make clear that he thought 
the Jews had "brought on themselves" whatever Hitler did to them. "


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R. P. wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znRrGfMc700&mode=related&search=
> 
>    Az nem Sztalin, hanem egy szinesz aki Sztalint alakitja, valoszinu 
> valami filmben. A tomegbol is latszik ez, amiben csikos rabruhasok meg 
> meg egy amerikai zaszlo is van.  P. R.

Uh! You catching on fast!
Of course it's a movie, really stupid one, that's why no one went to 
watch it!
I grew up on that stuff, Russky-Rambo movies.
JS



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ataturkey@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 29, 6:20 am, Protagonist  wrote:
>> ataturkey wrote:
>>> On Jan 29, 5:18 am, Gord McFee  wrote:
>>>> On 1/28/2007 3:54 PM, Protagonist wrote:
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znRrGfMc700&mode=related&search=
>>>>> I would make a movie, when the Red Army raps all the woman in Auschwitz
>>>>> and Berlin!
>>>> Quite the rappers, those Red Army guys.
>>> Do you think that some of the stuff the Nazis did or supposed to have
>>> done to the Jews is also funny?
>>> Why should anyone care about your complaints if you care nothing about
>>> others?
>>> Have a nice vegetarian day!
>>>> --
>>>> Gord McFee
>>>> I'll write no line before its time
>>>> Visit the Holocaust History Projecthttp://www.holocaust-history.org
> 
>> Joe Kennedy:
>> "As ambassador to England, Joe would later make clear that he thought
>> the Jews had "brought on themselves" whatever Hitler did to them. "
> 
> 
> Joe Kennedy, the bootlegger with mafia connections is not exactly my 
> role model and I am not sure that anything can justify the murder of 
> women and children. Evil is evil and those who do not see the evil 
> done to others are themselves evil. It goes for both sides.
> 
> Have a nice vegetarian day!
> 

So, How you think, Jews of America got rich, honesty?
Uhhh! Falling for the Holohoax stories, turkey boy!
JS


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B'inyamin Cramer wrote:
> 
> "Gord McFee"  wrote in message 
> news:12rqtc8dru28801@corp.supernews.com...
>> On 1/28/2007 3:54 PM, Protagonist wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znRrGfMc700&mode=related&search=
>>>
>>> I would make a movie, when the Red Army raps all the woman in 
>>> Auschwitz and Berlin!
>>
>> Quite the rappers, those Red Army guys.
> 
> As he said, "for the weaker minds."
> 
> Right on cue, old feller. Thank you.

Jewsy pick on me, he, since they have no other arguments.

JS


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Frank Arthur wrote:
> I'm sure the cowardly "Protagonist"  believes, like the 
> Islamist terrorists,
> that "Jews control Hollywood" etc.

That's right dick head!
Some 7 Jew controls most of the US media!
Like in Russia in the 90's, out of the 12 oligarchies 8 was  Jew.
Putin gave them a warning, get out of politics, by jailing 1 for tax 
fraud and another lives in London, ran away before got slammed.
JS


> 
> 
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
> news:itudncgxAdx48yDYnZ2dnUVZ_qyjnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>> In article <45BD5C01.C06F4548@nospam.net>, Hello   
>>> wrote:
>>>> Jews continue to harass Christians
>>>>
>>>> Jewish groups continue to scour the internet seeking out anyone who
>>>> questions the holocaust figure or who makes the slightest comment about
>>>> Jews. They think it's fine to harass Christians and make TV programs
>>> They do? Please document this bizarre accusation.
>>>
>>>> * They try to send those people viruses to harass them.
>>> They do? Please document these accusations.
>>>
>>>> * They try to get these law abiding citizens fired from their jobs.
>>> They do? Please document these accusations.
>>>
>>>> * They try to get these people denied income.
>>> They do? Please document these accusations.
>>>> * They try to block those people's emails and use of the Internet.
>>> They do? Please document these accusations.
>>>
>>>> * They try to masquerade as other people, perhaps a cute girl, to
>>>> befriend the person over the Internet. Then, by chatting with him, try
>>>> to get derogatory personal information and spread it around to harass
>>>> that person.
>>> They do? Please document this accusation.
>>>
>>>> * In Europe, they get books banned which say the slightest thing about
>>>> Judaism or point out famous Jews who caused problems, like Karl Marx.
>>>> But they themselves publish highly derogatory books against Christianity
>>>> which promote atheism.
>>> Please document these accusations, and present your case in response to 
>>> the assertion
>>> that you are an abject moron.
>>>
>>> I'll wait.
>>>
>>>
>> I have not seen a movie/TV show, where gangsters, prostitutes or negative 
>> characters would wear the Star of David or any other Jewish insignia 
>> jewelry on them.
>> Seems all prostitutes, murderers, gangsters or other stereo types are 
>> Christians in Hollywood movies. When it's the opposite in real life.
>> Recently seen the movie "The Whore", where the greedy negative characters, 
>> like the prostitute and her pimp were whites, good guy is a black man, 
>> helping the blond white girl.
>> Prostitutes are  all wearing large Christian crosses in the movie.
>> Must be a Jew company, financier or director who made this movie.
>> I see this pattern over and over in other Hollywood movies.
>>
>>
>> JS
>>
> 
> 


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Hello wrote:
> Protagonist wrote:
> 
>> Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>> In article <45BD5C01.C06F4548@nospam.net>, Hello   wrote:
>>>> Jews continue to harass Christians
>>>>
>>>> Jewish groups continue to scour the internet seeking out anyone who
>>>> questions the holocaust figure or who makes the slightest comment about
>>>> Jews. They think it's fine to harass Christians and make TV programs
>>> They do? Please document this bizarre accusation.
>>>
>>>> * They try to send those people viruses to harass them.
>>> They do? Please document these accusations.
>>>
>>>> * They try to get these law abiding citizens fired from their jobs.
>>> They do? Please document these accusations.
>>>
>>>> * They try to get these people denied income.
>>> They do? Please document these accusations.
>>>> * They try to block those people's emails and use of the Internet.
>>> They do? Please document these accusations.
>>>
>>>> * They try to masquerade as other people, perhaps a cute girl, to
>>>> befriend the person over the Internet. Then, by chatting with him, try
>>>> to get derogatory personal information and spread it around to harass
>>>> that person.
>>> They do? Please document this accusation.
>>>
>>>> * In Europe, they get books banned which say the slightest thing about
>>>> Judaism or point out famous Jews who caused problems, like Karl Marx.
>>>> But they themselves publish highly derogatory books against Christianity
>>>> which promote atheism.
>>> Please document these accusations, and present your case in response to the assertion
>>> that you are an abject moron.
>>>
>>> I'll wait.
>>>
>>>
>> I have not seen a movie/TV show, where gangsters, prostitutes or
>> negative characters would wear the Star of David or any other Jewish
>> insignia jewelry on them.
>> Seems all prostitutes, murderers, gangsters or other stereo types are
>> Christians in Hollywood movies. When it's the opposite in real life.
>> Recently seen the movie "The Whore", where the greedy negative
>> characters, like the prostitute and her pimp were whites, good guy is a
>> black man, helping the blond white girl.
>> Prostitutes are  all wearing large Christian crosses in the movie.
>> Must be a Jew company, financier or director who made this movie.
>> I see this pattern over and over in other Hollywood movies.
>>
>> JS
> 
> Yes, I've seen that too. Maybe it's not Jews making those movies.  It may be pagan
> atheists, and those kinds of movies have been shown a lot on American TV. They should all
> be pulled and discarded.
> 
> Here's another anti-Christian movie. "The People under the Stairs" was a particularly nasty
> propaganda movie against Christianity.  The parents of a young girl are hateful Christians,
> crazy and insane. The father chases the children around shooting a shotgun at them. The
> mother is depicted as a completely insane "Christian woman".
> 
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105121/
> http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1800166485/info
> 
> Anyone who watches this movie, who has little knowledge of what Christianity really
> teaches, might resent and even hate Christianity. A young black boy comes to "save the day"
> by rescuing the cute white girl from her crazy Christian parents.
> 
> Now, this movie was made in full color and shown to hundreds of thousands of people. It
> wasn't some obscure article few people read, which can be easily thrown away, nor some
> internet post only a few dozen people read.
> 
> The movie titled "The People under the Stairs" mixes visual images like skulls, craziness
> and violence with Christian culture and motifs. In reality true Christianity is completely
> non violent; promoting peace, love and forgiveness to all people.
> 
> There is another nasty movie which depicts Christians as "evil, crazy and insane" while the
> cool black man comes to rescue the innocent white girl from their clutches. They mix
> horrific scenes of wanton violence in with Christians. Any young people watching that
> movie, who don't have much understanding of Christianity and perhaps who use drugs, would
> resent Christianity greatly. In reality it was the pagan Roman Empire that allowed horrific
> barbarism to occur, often against Jews and Christians. I can't think of the name of that
> movie off hand though.
> 
> Again, it may not be Jews making those movies. It is said there are people trying to
> denigrate both Judaism and Christianity in order to promote pagan Roman ways.

Believe me Jews are behind it, not pagans.

"Hollywood is run by Jews; it is owned by Jews--and they should have a 
greater sensitivity about the issue of people who are suffering. 
Because...we have seen...the greaseball, we've seen the Chink, we've 
seen the slit-eyed dangerous Jap, we have seen the wily Filipino, we've 
seen everything but we never saw the kike. Because they knew perfectly 
well, that that is where you draw the [line]."
--Brando on Larry King Live



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R. P. wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote:
>> Uh! You catching on fast!
>> Of course it's a movie, really stupid one, that's why no one went to 
>> watch it!
> 
>   Yet you presented it as if it was some news reel.

No! You took it that way, how ironic!

> 
>> I grew up on that stuff, Russky-Rambo movies.
> 
>   And you think you were the only one? I doubt you even lived during 
> Stalin's terror.

I only hear about the Hitler terror, the Jews and the Holohoax, every 
day, not Stalin, at least here in the US!
But than, this country is run by them, since this minority (5-6 
million)owns over 1/3 of the wealth of the US.
JS


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McVay let me ask you a simple question!
How come, I have to go to a revisionist news group to find out, that 
Anna Frank died in typhus in a concentration camp and not gassing or 
murder? Her father survived.
I grew up with the Anna story and in school we even had to go to see the 
movie, back in the 60's.
You Jews all ways say, Anna Frank died in the concentration camp but the
average citizen, who don't follow closely the Holocau$t thinks she was 
gassed or murdered by the Nazis, because you Jews flood the media and 
teach this crap to kids!
Why the half baked stories?
JS


Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
> In article ,
> Leading Revisionst Scholar Kurt Knoll  wrote:
>> Hey Kenneth Rumour has it that some of Ann Franks diary were written with a 
>> ball point Penn after the war was over. You should also know the Ball Point 
>> Penn was not available in Europe until about the second part of 1945. Why 
>> not hove some forensic testing done by an international independent body not 
>> controlled by the holocaust industries.
> 
> What a moron.
> What a Leading Revisionist Scholar.
> What a liar:
> 
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.py/people/ftp.py?people/f/frank.anne/holland.003
> 
> The ink deposits found on the standards of comparison, on the diaries and
> on the loose sheets, consist, in the main, of gray-blue fountain pen ink in
> which iron was clearly present. At the time, iron-gallotannate ink was in
> general use. Only after 1950 were inks with no, or a much lower, iron
> content introduced.
>  
> Beside the gray-blue fountain pen ink, the diaries and loose sheets also
> contained: thin red ink, green and red pencil and black pencil.
>  
> None of the tests produced any indication that the diaries, the loose
> sheets and the items submitted for comparison, together with the ink
> deposits found in them, are of a later date than the supposed period of
> origin.
> 
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.py/people/ftp.py?people/f/frank.anne/anne.frank.002
> 
> The original 4-page report from the BKA (Bundeskriminaliteitsarchiv) confined
> itself to the more narrow question of the time period in which the diary materials
> were created being consistent with a 1940-43 date. The conclusion was that,
> yes, the materials were consistent. They did, correctly, point out that
> there were several additions to the text in ball pen ink. However, what
> the report neglects to mention (and Der Spiegel doesn't either. I'm still
> curious about that, since I don't *always* associate DS with News of the 
> World) is the *number* of entries (small), *where* they are made (on loose
> scraps of paper collected in with the "loose" contents of the third section
> of the diary), and whether or not they appear in the text of the diary 
> itself (they do not. They're clearly editorial notes made during the attempt
> to collate the loose pages in the correct order. Otto Frank's page numbers
> exist on the corner of a number of the sheets in the third diary section
> for precisely the same reason).
> 
> 


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Ha ha! This is funny!
I can imagine a hole school goes the H$ memorial and suddenly all have 
to urinate among the gray concrete blocks and no toilet in site.
Do they have port-a-potty at strategic locations?
JS


Heinrich wrote:
> Berlin's Holocaust Memorial has attracted millions of visitors since it was 
> inaugurated in May 2005. However, some of these visitors have shown little 
> respect for the memorial -- and have used it as a public toilet.
> 
> Just days after Holocaust Memorial Day, when the world commemorated the 62nd 
> anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz, it has emerged that Berlin's 
> Holocaust Memorial has been used for a highly inappropriate purpose by 
> members of the public. In the first few months after it opened in May 2005, 
> the memorial in Berlin's city center was used as a public urinal.
> 
> The memorial -- officially known as the Memorial to the Murdered Jews of 
> Europe -- is made up of 2,711 concrete slabs, each 95 centimeters apart, and 
> set in an area 19,000 square meters, the size of three football fields. It 
> lies just next to the historic Brandenburg Gate and has many dark passages 
> separating the slabs, that are barely visible from the exterior. It seems 
> that many tourists and passers-by availed of this relative privacy to 
> relieve themselves in a place that is intended to commemorate the fate of 
> Europe's Jews under the Nazis. The memorial, which cost ?25.3 million to 
> build, has been seen as a major success, attracting 3.5 million visitors in 
> its first year alone.
> 
> Unfortunately, some of those who entered the memorial showed a singular lack 
> of respect. According to a report in Monday's Berliner Zeitung a "massive" 
> amount of urination occurred in the first months after the memorial was 
> inaugurated. The problem was revealed in a side note to a report that 
> Berlin's Culture Minister Bernd Neumann submitted to the federal 
> parliament's budget committee.
> 
> 


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  Just read an article, when in Budapest, Hungary in 2005 the  new 
Holohoax museum opened, there was bigger security than when the Pope 
visited .
All the streets were closed down around the building, apartment searched 
by the police and nearby residents were not allowed to receive visitors 
on that day.
Even armored vehicles were placed at strategic intersections.
What are they afraid of?
Some one gonna still the 60 years old fake hairs and shoes?
... or get away with an empty Zyklon-B cannister?
Uhh! Road to riches!!!

JS

Heinrich wrote:
> Berlin's Holocaust Memorial has attracted millions of visitors since it was 
> inaugurated in May 2005. However, some of these visitors have shown little 
> respect for the memorial -- and have used it as a public toilet.
> 
> Just days after Holocaust Memorial Day, when the world commemorated the 62nd 
> anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz, it has emerged that Berlin's 
> Holocaust Memorial has been used for a highly inappropriate purpose by 
> members of the public. In the first few months after it opened in May 2005, 
> the memorial in Berlin's city center was used as a public urinal.
> 
> The memorial -- officially known as the Memorial to the Murdered Jews of 
> Europe -- is made up of 2,711 concrete slabs, each 95 centimeters apart, and 
> set in an area 19,000 square meters, the size of three football fields. It 
> lies just next to the historic Brandenburg Gate and has many dark passages 
> separating the slabs, that are barely visible from the exterior. It seems 
> that many tourists and passers-by availed of this relative privacy to 
> relieve themselves in a place that is intended to commemorate the fate of 
> Europe's Jews under the Nazis. The memorial, which cost ?25.3 million to 
> build, has been seen as a major success, attracting 3.5 million visitors in 
> its first year alone.
> 
> Unfortunately, some of those who entered the memorial showed a singular lack 
> of respect. According to a report in Monday's Berliner Zeitung a "massive" 
> amount of urination occurred in the first months after the memorial was 
> inaugurated. The problem was revealed in a side note to a report that 
> Berlin's Culture Minister Bernd Neumann submitted to the federal 
> parliament's budget committee.
> 
> 


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World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz may be dedicated to freeing the 
world from poverty - but he seems unable to afford a new pair of socks.

Mr Wolfowitz's sartorial deficiencies were revealed when he took his 
shoes off while visiting a mosque in Edirne, western Turkey.

Both of the grey socks sported holes with his big toes peeking through.

The last World Bank annual report, for 2006, puts the president's salary 
as of 1 July, 2005, at $391,440 (£200,279).

http://index.hu/politika/kulfold/socks5359/?print
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6316765.stm



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