From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:27 EDT 2007 Article: 1141276 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.revisionism:1141276 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!newsfeed.news2me.com!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 09:25:34 -0500 Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 07:25:31 -0700 From: ProtagonistUser-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Hydrocyanic Acid References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <-oWdnWA4zNjDCWTZnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@comcast.com> Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-qkhaCYrrkQipx9W4uCFlhfx83KEBpvC4rQBes+O1JvDI79eBwKc4F10vydf5GprNL+N/wCx3QWoCoUD!c8Kq95ft9tSW2OwWZQEpMErsXnUZom0iMYtGsoYDnEASG2bAmpW1i0IgQozs+gu8e0sJ/wZ334Fh!x7QMOUil X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Ben C'ramer wrote: > Here you go, ronnie, you dopey old twat. > > > > Hydrocyanic Acid > > Solution of hydrogen cyanide gas (HCN) in water. It is a colourless, highly > poisonous, volatile liquid, smelling of bitter almonds. > > > © Research Machines plc 2006. All rights reserved. Helicon Publishing is a > division of Research Machines plc. > > Don't post things like that, Ben! Jews will invent a new story, that victims flocked into the gas-chambers for the smell of the "almond". McVay will to take it serious and post it on Nizkor as a new evidence as a method of murder! JS From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:28 EDT 2007 Article: 1141306 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.music.rush:574554 alt.revisionism:1141306 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-12!supernews.com!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 12:38:24 -0500 Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 10:38:16 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.music.rush,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Jewish Bankers hated Hitler, wanted war References: <1157180219.264381.38840@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1157180219.264381.38840@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-kM816nlHw81rc4KanVhLaV2eIwtH5YqHahF4tKD3WqTnzLnVLgzuc0SU4cJxxaqzAiU/r9Zuhqnlp+P!Vkt4RNqgpO/1kVBArl4tZ7hV5UHRh7MB21zoOUk7qI4MgyvNqg67AtF22gxbUkg6njKhDXUbUUDB!KkrJN1lV X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 LIBERATOR wrote: > http://www.savethemales.ca/001449.html > > Bankers don't like it when you eliminate debt-finance, because without > debt-finance, people can't be slaves by being in debt, because there is > no debt. > > Hitler made every living human in Germany prosperous, no disparity, no > depravity, no unemployment, no poverty, no unmet needs, luxurious > living for all, with the highest quality products produced anywhere in > the world, were ample in Hitlers Germany. > > The Jewish bankers hated him for it, thus had to get him into war to > take back their markets for pillaging people for their wealth. > > So they made up the holocaust so no one would ever again use > "labor-finance" without a debt variable. > Yap!!! That's what it's called Modern slavery! From birth till death, unless born to be privileged! "Da" game is, control over people! Money, health care, food, basic needs, psychological mined game, some superior being etc... you name it, all part of it. JS From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:28 EDT 2007 Article: 1142824 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.revisionism:1142824 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-08!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!newsfeed.news2me.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!216.196.98.140.MISMATCH!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 21:11:55 -0500 Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 19:11:54 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Perfume--the stench is overwhelming! References: <1157830809.330616.280970@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1157830809.330616.280970@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 72 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-7ntl3VtywB8xQhsw8BtcWQsgqub/sRRK8Vb5/SLby+eEI6Ow0xK5o7qflpzzkxm+r/SvolGMMjtu7Uc!c6kuoEz4kWqkjRDS2w/DwSgrpEAPzNIeIhYybpKARrWGy5zA/CJMpA75wqpPFNnwJQVKsqW3SCAK!rRBm6qwU X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 hoaxbuster@earthlink.net wrote: > On September 14, an amazing new film entitled "Perfume" will be > released > in Germany. It is the biggest German film production since WW2 with a > cost of more > than fifty million Euros--and the film is already getting rave reviews > on the German > Deutsche Welle news programs that I watch via satellite dish. Dustin > Hoffmann is > co-starring--yes, it's that big. > > The film is based on the best-selling German book by Patrick Susskind > from the 1980's > which was also called "Perfume." It is a horror story about a young, > eigtheenth-century Frenchman named Grenouille who in order to become > the greatest > perfumer, murders at least 24 young virgins to capture their scent. He > > succeeds > and mesmerizes the masses with his amazing perfume. The comparisons to > > Hitler who > also mesmerized the multitudes are all just below the surface as one > sees in countless > reviews of the original book by Susskind. > > > What is left out of all the reviews, of the film or book, is that if > the film had > been made in Nazi Germany--it would be have been regarded by post-war > anti-Nazis > as proof of Nazi depravity and blood lust. Just imagine Hitler or > Himmler viewing > the film in the Berghof and commenting "very interesting." But, they > never did anything of the sort. They would have been too ashamed to > even look at > such filth. > > > Such films were never made in NS Germany. The Nazis had the decency to > > recognize > that such films were vulgar and obscene. But today, in either modern > Germany or > the US, one can see an endless stream of just such filth whether it is > "The > Silence of the Lambs" or countless horror films whose only appeal is > the depravity > or bestiality of the protagonists. Surely, it is should be easy enough > > to recognize > that there is something seriously wrong here. Small wonder that the US > > has an enormously > high crime rate--and modern Germany will soon follow. > > > Friedrich Paul Berg > Learn everything at www.nazigassings.com > > > Holocaust ist ein sehr, sehr dreckiger juedischer Schwindel--ein Sack > von heiligen Luegen! > The "Holocaust" is a dirty jewish hoax--delusional history, a holy pack > > of lies! > Nazi Gassings Never Happened! > Dustin Hoffmann is a Jew and a crappy movie, like Perfume, there must be a Jew in it. JS From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:28 EDT 2007 Article: 1143394 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us can.politics:1374408 alt.revisionism:1143394 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-08!sn-xt-sjc-12!supernews.com!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:16:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:16:17 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Holocaust deniers are morons. References: <1158086911.791795.220990@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1158092556.935738.37110@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1158101103.409631.172480@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <12gggg9c3gbr388@corp.supernews.com> In-Reply-To: <12gggg9c3gbr388@corp.supernews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <0MGdnUoOGq_OApXYnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@comcast.com> Lines: 239 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-yQLKyHJJRo2w/DQkFWCWmItncJ0MTpfX68IOgU46xa8+H+c0TdRvvX21iB9ngOpeXiJ4Q6vdieJNUfH!yO9wZqy6bCZVrAYvtDcYWofnuKcTnt8xdwtQ4P7vLE1zQwClgxsCQES9LCWNISOv+4zetP/t6bxJ!2rPmlGvZ X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Kenneth McVay OBC wrote: > In article <1158101103.409631.172480@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>, > Leftists = traitors wrote: > > [...] > >> Corpses, skeletons, ashes vanished without a trace. Interesting, when >> they can find bodies thousands of years old in tombs, did up every mass >> grave in Bosnia for the war crimes trials, etc, they can't locate ANY >> of the mass graves of the Holocaust. > > Tsk, tsk. > http://nizkor.org/hweb/camps/auschwitz/crematoria/burning-pits.html > > "In 1965, Hydrokop, a chemical mining enterprise based in Krakow, was commissioned by the > Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum to carry out geological tests at Birkenau aimed at > determining the locations of incineration pits and pyres. Specialists of Hydrokop bored > 303 holes up to 3 m deep. Traces of human ashes, bones, and hair turned up in 42 sites. > Documentation of all the holes and the diagrams of their distribution are preserved in > the Conservation Department of the Museum." (Franciszek Piper, Anatomy of the Auschwitz > Death Camp, p. 179n). > > ....and... > > Archive/File: > camps/aktion.reinhard/belzec/Archeological_Report/Tregenza_Conclusions.98 > Last-Modified: 1999/08/09 > > "XI. CONCLUSIONS > > "* The most significant and unexpected facts to emerge as a result > of the 1997-98 investigations are the large number of mass graves > discovered (33), and the large number of indications of camp > structures of various sizes (65) scattered throughout the area of > the former extermination camp, and the deep cellars beneath some > of the buildings. Several of the camp structures correspond > approximately in position with buildings shown on > > [Page 26] > > [text seems to be missing here] > > "the undressing and barbers' barracks, workshops, warehouse, and > bunker for the electricity generator; in Camp II, barracks and > kitchen for the Jewish 'death brigade').[1] > > "* The two main phases of the camp's gassing operations may be > identified by the arrangement of the mass graves and camp > structures between the graves. Thus, the apparent proliferation of > small wooden structures between the graves of the first phase may > have been temporary barracks for the Jews of the 'death brigade' > employed in digging the mass graves, and shelters for the guards. > Three of the smallest wooden structures arranged at intervals > around the W and S part of the grave field from the first period > suggest watchtowers overlooking the grave digging work. The > structures in the S half of the camp area doubtless date from the > second period. (Fig 8). > > "* Graves 12 and 14-20, ranged along the N fence, correspond to > witnesses' statements as [2] being the first to be utilized during > the period February-May 1942. They undoubtedly contain the remains > of the Jews from the Lublin ghetto, deported to Belzec camp > between mid-March - mid-April 1942, and the remains of early > transports from the Lvov ghetto and the transit ghettos at lzbica > and Piaski. In these grave also lie the remains of German Jews > deported from the Reich in April-May to lzbica and Piaski, and > thence to Belzec. > > "* Graves 10, 25, 27, 28, 32 and 33, which contain a layer of lime > covering still decomposing human remains, date from the spring of > 1942 when the local German civil authorities complained about the > health hazard caused by decomposing corpses in open graves. > Chloride of lime was spread over the six still open mass graves > identified above in an effort to avoid epidemics breaking out. > > "* Evidence of the subsequent failed attempt at cremating corpses > in graves may be found in the small graves near the N fence, > Nos. 27, 28 and 32, in which a layer of burnt human remains and > pieces of carbonized wood. The bottom of each of these graves is > lined with a layer of human fat. > > "* With the exception of grave 14, the comparatively small size of > the other graves clustered around it near the N corner of the camp > is indicative of the smaller transports of this period which > carried on average 1,500 victims each.[3] > > "* Some of the smallest graves (e.g. Nos.: 13, 27, 28, 32 and 33) > could be the execution pits in which the old, sick and infirm Jews > were shot during the first phase, while graves 2, 21 and 23 could > be the execution pits from the second phase. Such small graves > correspond > > "Footnotes > > "[1] Sketches and written descriptions of the camp layout > during the second phase (July-December 1942) by members of > the former SS-garrison in: ZStL, file No.: AR-Z 252159: The > Case against Josef Oberhauser et al., pp. 1287-1288: Heinrich > Gley, 10 May 1961/Munster; pp. 1340-1341: Heinrich Unverhau, > 10 July 1961/Konigslutter; pp. 1360-1361: Hans Girtzig, 18 > July 1961/Berlin; p. 1412: Kurt Frariz, 14 September > 1961/Duesseldorf; pp. 1464-1465: Robert Jiffirs, 11 October > 1961/Frankfurt-am-Main; p. 1507: Karl Schluch, 11 November > 1961/Kleve. > > "[2] According to witnesses, the first and largest mass grave > (No. 14) was dug by members of the Soviet guard unit while > the camp was under construction. It took six weeks to > complete the task. OKBZ, file No.: Ds. 1604/45 -- Zamosc. > Statements by Belzec villagers 1945-46. > > "[3] The early transports consisted of 8-15 wagons with an > average of 100 Jews with their luggage per wagon. > > [Page 27] > > "with descriptions given in testimony by former members of the SS- > garrison at their trial in Munich 1963-64.[4] > > "* At least a dozen graves still contain today unburnt, partially > mummified or decomposing corpses. Exactly why the SS did not empty > all the graves and destroy their contents is not known; they were > in no hurry to leave the area as the entire SS-garrison was > redistributed to other camps in the Lublin District for at least > five months after the liquidation of Belzec. However, that all the > corpses were not disinterred and destroyed may be due to the > following: > > "a) six of the graves not emptied date from the first phase > and contain decomposing corpses under a layer of lime; the > corpses would have been in such an appalling state of > disintegration that even the SS were reluctant to attempt > disinterrment; > > "b) three of the graves not completely emptied date from the > second phase and are among the largest in the camp (with the > exception of grave 14); removal of their entire decomposing > contents presented a daunting task. > > "* Perhaps after five months of supervising day and night the > gruesome work of exhuming and cremating the hundreds of thousands > of rotting remains the SS had simply had enough, and against > orders, abandoned the task.[5] The opened and partly emptied > graves were refilled with the fragments of burnt human bones and > pieces of carbonized wood from the bone mill, mixed with sand. > > "* From the wealth of evidence uncovered by the 1997-98 > investigations it is obvious that the camp SS did not by any means > erase all traces of the extermination camp, as hitherto believed. > The majority of the wooden barracks were burnt down and the > carbonized wood broken up into fragments; solid structures were > demolished and the bricks, stones and concrete or cement broken > into pieces and buried. Solidly constructed cellars beneath > certain buildings were used as refuse pits into which were thrown > items of glass and metal which could not be completely destroyed > by fire. The cellars were then simply filled in with soil. Other > articles of glass and metal were buried among the remains of burnt > down wooden barracks. At the Ramp, the wooden support posts and > planks retaining the sandy soil of the two platforms -- the > negative imaible > due to the forested and uneven terrain at the SW end of the camp. > Luftwaffe aerial photographs of Belzec taken in 1940 and 1944 > clearly show that two parallel tracks existed on the camp area. > Witnesses also mention the existence of two tracks during . [6] It is > > "Footnotes > > "[4] For descriptions of an execution pit and method of > shooting see: ZStL, file No.: AR-Z 252/59: The Case Against > Josef Oberhauser et al., p. 1554: Heinrich Gley, 24 November > 1961/Muenster; p. 1484:s, 12 October > 1961/Frankfurt-am-Main. Both Gley and ldhrs were assigned to > execution duty. It is not conceivable that only one such > execution pit existed in the camp, as these witnesses state. > > "[5] SS-Oberscharfuehrer Heinrich Glervised the > daytime shift at the cremation pyres, has testified about the > cremations: 'The whole procedure during the burning of the > exhumed corpses was so inhuman, so unaesthetic, and the > stench so horrifying that people today who are everyday lives cannot possibly > stretch their imaginations far > enough to recreate these horrors'. ZStL, file No.: AR-Z > 252159: The Case Against Josef Oberhauser et al., p. 1699: > Heinrich Gley, 7 January 1963/Munich. > > "[6] Air ary, National Archives, Washington DC, USA. > Film Roll No.: TU GX 933 F7 SK, exposure 089, dated 26 May > 1940; film roll No.: GX 8095 33 SK, exposure 155, dated 15 > May 1944. ZStL, file No.: AR- Z 252/59: The Case Against > Josef Oberhauserl., p. 1681: Josef Oberhauser, 12 > December 1961/Munich. Diary of Wilhelm Cornides, entry on 31 > August 1942 in: Vierteljahreshefte fuer Zeitgeschichte No. 7, > pp. 333-336, Munich 1959. Cornides was a Wehrmacht NCO who > travelled through B of the camp in June-July > 1942, prior to the increased extermination activity which began on > 1 August, and the employment of 1,000 'work Jews' in the camp. > Evidence of three small wooden structures at 55 m. intervals along > the E fence indicate the probable position of such additional > watchtowers. > > "* In the autumn of 1942 there was increased partisan activity in > the Belzec area which necessitated extra security precautions by > the camp SS and Soviet guard unit. 7 One such measure was the > construction of a concrete bunker at the SE corner of the camp, on > the highest point of the terrain. It would also have been logical > and effective to have had a watchtower above the bunker, affording > a clear all-round view and field of fire over the entire camp area > and its environs. > > "* A comparison of Figs. 7 and 8 confirm that during its first > phase Belzec was a temporary, experimental camp where the > procedures and logistics of mass extermination by gas and the > burial of corpses were tried and tested, initially on the J ghetto, before being applied > at the Sobibor and > Treblinka extermination camps. It can also be seen that the > original camp structures and mass graves of the first phase were > concentrated along the N fence, leaving the majority of the camp > area empty and used but ready for utilization and expansion at a > later date. The primitive, experimental gassing barrack and > undressing barracks were also temporary structures, replaced later > by bigger and more solidly constructed buildings to accommodate > the increased nmber of victims."(Tregenza, pp 26-28) > > Work Cited > > Tregenza, Michael. Report on the Archeological Investigation at the > Site of the Former NAZI Extermination Camp in Belzec, Poland, 1997-98. > Lublin, 1998 > > > http://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/aktion.reinhard/belzec/Archeological_Report/Tregenza_Conclusions.98 > So you mean, they found the other 3 million dead? Great! Let's glue back the old sign at Auschwitz, saying "We found the other 3 million dead, now it's really 4 million!" Excuse, Excuse, excuse.... JS From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:29 EDT 2007 Article: 1143411 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.revisionism:1143411 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-12!supernews.com!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 01:36:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 23:36:41 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Einstein first wife Mileva was the brain Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: Lines: 97 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-texkpnU4DZBW/qxnAzjmRzP8Bo3UNIxV7yemydP0clPuSwYoIW0EWQjfa3ErLWovWc7Kn8MRqcGkTVm!MB2U5BiZJGBUsuoY9TkliPWRgPg7XMkUyrurA5tC6bE1AnI0KwJ6UMK20Sunsil6yeWuW4QsvZtG!RYba8/yw X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 PBS documentary shows, first wife Mileva was the brain and coleborator in Einstein big ideas, that later won him the Nobel prize! JS Excerpts from Chapter Eight "How happy and proud I will be, when we two together have victoriously led our work on relative motion to an end!"-- Albert Einstein . . .In 1905, several articles bearing the name of Albert Einstein appeared in a German physics journal, Annalen der Physik. The most fateful among these, was a paper entitled Zur Elektrodynamik bewegter Körper; von A. Einstein, Einstein's supposedly breakthrough paper on the "principle of relativity". Though it was perhaps submitted as coauthored by Mileva Einstein-Marity and Albert Einstein, or solely by Mileva Einstein-Marity, Albert's name appeared in the journal as the exclusive author of their work285 . . . . Abram Fedorovich Joffe (Ioffe) recounts that the paper was signed "Einstein-Marity". "Marity" is a variant of the Serbian "Maric", Mileva's maiden name. Joffe, who had seen the original 1905 manuscript, is on record as stating, "For Physics, and especially for the Physics of my generation--that of Einstein's contemporaries, Einstein's entrance into the arena of science is unforgettable. In 1905, three articles appeared in the 'Annalen der Physik', which began three very important branches of 20th Century Physics. Those were the theory of Brownian movement, the theory of the photoelectric effect and the theory of relativity. The author of these articles--an unknown person at that time, was a bureaucrat at the Patent Office in Bern, Einstein-Marity (Marity--the maiden name of his wife, which by Swiss custom is added to the husband's family name)."286. . . . . . Joffe's statements appeared fifty years after he had read the 1905 papers. It stuck with him all those many years that the papers were indelibly signed "Einstein-Marity". How could Joffe have known that Mileva Maric went by the name of Einstein-Marity, if the name had not appeared on the 1905 papers? Joffe could not have known that Albert went by the name of "Einstein-Marity", because Albert Einstein never did. . . . . . There is no Swiss custom by which the husband automatically adds his wife's maiden name to his, and even if there were, neither Albert nor Mileva were Swiss. Albert Einstein never signed his name "Einstein-Marity". Swiss law permits the male, the female, or both, to use a double last name, but this must be declared before the marriage, and it was Mileva, not Albert, who opted for the last name "Einstein-Marity". A married person may use the hyphenated "Allianzname" in everyday use, but it was Mileva who went by "Einstein-Marity", not Albert. Albert signed his marriage records simply "Einstein". Mileva's death notice reads "Einstein-Marity". Evan Harris Walker, who argued that Mileva was co-author, or sole author, of the 1905 papers, quoted some of Albert's words, as found in The Collected Papers of Albert Einstein, and bear in mind that the vast majority of Mileva's letters to Albert were destroyed, with there being no more likely reasons for their destruction, than to hide her contribution and the fact that the works were unoriginal, "I find statements in 13 of [Albert's] 43 letters to [Mileva] that refer to her research or to an ongoing collaborative effort -- for example, in document 74, 'another method which has similarities with yours.' In document 75, Albert writes: 'I am also looking forward very much to our new work. You must now continue with your investigation.' In document 79, he says, 'we will send it to Wiedermann's Annalen.' In document 96, he refers to 'our investigations'; in document 101, to 'our theory of molecular forces.' In document 107, he tells her: 'Prof. Weber is very nice to me. . . I gave him our paper.'"298 . . .Why did the Nobel commitee not award Einstein the Nobel Prize for his work on relativity theory? Could it have been that all who were familiar with the facts, knew that Einstein did not originate the major concepts behind relativity theory? . . .Mileva and Albert had coauthored papers before299 and Albert had assumed credit for that which Mileva had accomplished.300 Senta Troemel-Ploetz presented a thorough account of Albert's shameless appropriation of Mileva's work and of Mileva's acquiescence.301 . . .Why didn't Mileva come forward with the fact that she was the one who had written the work, if in fact she had? Did Albert buy Mileva's silence? Even if he had, was there more to hold Mileva back >from exposing Albert, than the desperate need for monies? . . . Serbian women had little chance at fame in those days, other than as ornaments attached to their husbands' arms. Tesla, a Serb born in Croatia, was unfairly treated in the West. What chance did Mileva stand? Albert was cruel to Mileva. Her self-confidence may have been destroyed. Albert once demanded in writing that Mileva obey his cruel and degrading orders, in a letter which can only be described as shocking and revolting.327 If Mileva had hoped that Albert would someday acknowledge her, she was mistaken. http://womenshistory.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://home.comcast.net/%7Extxinc/mileva.htm From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:30 EDT 2007 Article: 1143733 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.politics.usa:813548 alt.politics.usa.constitution:328495 alt.politics.usa.republican:2659056 alt.politics.democrats:779150 alt.revisionism:1143733 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-08!sn-xt-sjc-12!supernews.com!news-xxxfer.readnews.com!198.186.190.251.MISMATCH!news-out.readnews.com!spool-scsi2.readnews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 02:50:44 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 00:50:41 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa,alt.politics.usa.constitution,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.politics.democrats,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: The Federal Reserve References: <0O2dnS9QyP-ZqpbYnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> <1158365377.861059.264080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1158386860.981041.170650@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1158386860.981041.170650@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 307 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-pGpdRQ9nT86v2OLLQOPRVY13cHJf8TC5JWgZtbcGppdqtlw0QqI1WmtNX6z+362Na7DwfZxyjqE2Vay!PYNF5Gth3hL2WMkGo/q8xtuncQXLQBI4a0+PqO/hl8gRNZYwWb5qDq7BZ3xunobnxvJi+KIABjI8!N9nRpssm X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Joe Bruno wrote: > Ben C'ramer wrote: >> "Joe Bruno" wrote in message >> news:1158365377.861059.264080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... >>> Parmenides wrote: >>>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5934921769808130035 >>> >>> I had a double major when I graduated Univ of Illinois: >>> >>> 1. Accounting >>> >>> 2. Economics/Finance >>> >>> >>> The Federal Reserve's primary function is to control the size of the >>> money supply in the USA. There are two reasons why this is desirable, >>> both of which challenge each other: >>> >>> 1)If the money supply is too large, we get inflation >> With eventual recession and depression. Better get ready for it joey. The >> dopey cunts recently printed another two trillion dollars worth of >> banknotes. > > The Fed doesn't print money-the mint does that. Fed reserve owns/prints the money and sells it to the US gov. for 2-3 cents /1$. Kennedy printed his own money, curbing the Fed reserve power. As we know now, Kennedy was killed after. The Fed And Executive Order 11110 From APFN By Cedric X 11-20-3 Executive Order 1110 gave the US the ability to create its own money backed by silver. ... http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/executiveorder11110.htm On June 4, 1963, a little known attempt was made to strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the government at interest. On that day President John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order No. 11110 that returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Federal Reserve. Mr. Kennedy's order gave the Treasury the power "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This meant that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation. In all, Kennedy brought nearly $4.3 billion in U.S. notes into circulation. The ramifications of this bill are enormous. With the stroke of a pen, Mr. Kennedy was on his way to putting the Federal Reserve Bank of New York out of business. If enough of these silver certificats were to come into circulation they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve notes. This is because the silver certificates are backed by silver and the Federal Reserve notes are not backed by anything. Executive Order 11110 could have prevented the national debt from reaching its current level, because it would have given the gevernment the ability to repay its debt without going to the Federal Reserve and being charged interest in order to create the new money. Executive Order 11110 gave the U.S. the ability to create its own money backed by silver. After Mr. Kennedy was assassinated just five months later, no more silver certificates were issued. The Final Call has learned that the Executive Order was never repealed by any U.S. President through an Executive Order and is still valid. Why then has no president utilized it? Virtually all of the nearly $6 trillion in debt has been created since 1963, and if a U.S. president had utilized Executive Order 11110 the debt would be nowhere near the current level. Perhaps the assassination of JFK was a warning to future presidents who would think to eliminate the U.S. debt by eliminating the Federal Reserve's control over the creation of money. Mr. Kennedy challenged the government of money by challenging the two most successful vehicles that have ever been used to drive up debt - war and the creation of money by a privately-owned central bank. His efforts to have all troops out of Vietnam by 1965 and Executive Order 11110 would have severely cut into the profits and control of the New York banking establishment. As America's debt reaches unbearable levels and a conflict emerges in Bosnia that will further increase America's debt, one is force to ask, will President Clinton have the courage to consider utilizing Executive Order 11110 and, ifso, is he willing to pay the ultimate price for doing so? Executive Order 11110 AMENDMENT OF EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 10289 AS AMENDED, RELATING TO THE PERFORMANCE OF CERTAIN FUNCTIONS AFFECTING THE DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows: Section 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended- By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j): (j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section 43 of the Act of May 12,1933, as amended (31 U.S.C.821(b)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denomination of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption and -- Byrevoking subparagraphs (b) and (c) of paragraph 2 thereof. Sec. 2. The amendments made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made. John F. Kennedy The White House, June 4, 1963. Of course, the fact that both JFK and Lincoln met the the same end is a mere coincidence. Abraham Lincoln's Monetary Policy, 1865 (Page 91 of Senate document 23.) Money is the creature of law and the creation of the original issue of money should be maintained as the exclusive monopoly of national Government. Money possesses no value to the State other than that given to it by circulation. Capital has its proper place and is entitled to every protection. The wages of men should be recognised in the structure of and in the social order as more important than the wages of money. No duty is more imperative for the Government than the duty it owes the People to furnish them with a sound and uniform currency, and of regulating the circulation of the medium of exchange so that labour will be protected from a vicious currency, and commerce will be facilitated by cheap and safe exchanges. The available supply of Gold and Silver being wholly inadequate to permit the issuance of coins of intrinsic value or paper currency convertible into coin in the volume required to serve the needs of the People, some other basis for the issue of currency must be developed, and some means other than that of convertibility into coin must be developed to prevent undue fluctuation in the value of paper currency or any other substitute for money of intrinsic value that may come into use. The monetary needs of increasing numbers of People advancing towards higher standards of living can and should be met by the Government. Such needs can be served by the issue of National Currency and Credit through the operation of a National Banking system .The circulation of a medium of exchange issued and backed by the Government can be properly regulated and redundancy of issue avoided by withdrawing from circulation such amounts as may be necessary by Taxation, Redeposit, and otherwise. Government has the power to regulate the currency and creditof the Nation. Government should stand behind its currency and credit and the Bank deposits of the Nation. No individual should suffer a loss of money through depreciation or inflated currency or Bank bankruptcy. Government possessing the power to create and issue currency and creditas money and enjoying the right to withdraw both currency and credit from circulation by Taxation and otherwise need not and should not borrow capital at interest as a means of financing Governmental work and public enterprise. The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credit needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of the consumers. The privilege of creating and issueing money is not only the supreme prerogative of Government, but it is the Governments greatest creative opportunity. By the adoption of these principles the long felt want for a uniform medium will be satisfied. The taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest, discounts, and exchanges. The financing of all public enterprise, the maintenance of stable Government and ordered progress, and the conduct of the Treasury will become matters of practical administration. The people can and will be furnished with a currency as safe as their own Government. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity. Democracy will rise superior to the money power. Some information on the Federal Reserve The Federal Reserve, a Private Corporation One of the most common concerns among people who engage in any effort to reduce their taxes is, "Will keeping my money hurt the government's ability to pay it's bills?" As explained in the first article in this series, the modern withholding tax does not, and wasn't designed to, pay for government services. What it does do, is pay for the privately-owned Federal Reserve System. Black's Law Dictionary defines the "Federal Reserve System" as, "Network of twelve central banks to which most national banks belong and to which state chartered banks may belong. Membership rules require investment of stock and minimum reserves." Privately-owned banks own the stock of the Fed. This was explained in more detail in the case of Lewis v. United States, Federal Reporter, 2nd Series, Vol. 680, Pages 1239, 1241 (1982), where the court said: Each Federal Reserve Bank is a separate corporation owned by commercial banks in its region. The stock-holding commercial banks elect two thirds of each Bank's nine member board of directors. Similarly, the Federal Reserve Banks, though heavily regulated, are locally controlled by their member banks. Taking another look at Black's Law Dictionary, we find that these privately owned banks actually issue money: Federal Reserve Act. Law which created Federal Reserve banks which act as agents in maintaining money reserves, issuing money in the form of bank notes, lending money to banks, and supervising banks. Administered by Federal Reserve Board (q.v.). The FED banks, which are privately owned, actually issue, that is, create, the money we use. In 1964 the House Committee on Banking and Currency, Subcommittee on Domestic Finance, at the second session of the 88th Congress, put out a study entitled Money Facts which contains a good description of what the FED is: The Federal Reserve is a total money-making machine.It can issue money or checks. And it never has a problem of making its checks good because it can obtain the $5 and $10 bills necessary to cover its check simply by asking the Treasury Department's Bureau of Engraving to print them. As we all know, anyone who has a lot of money has a lot of power. Now imagine a group of people who have the power to create money. Imagine the power these people would have. This is what the Fed is. No man did more to expose the power of the Fed than Louis T. McFadden, who was the Chairman of the House Banking Committee back in the 1930s. Constantly pointing out that monetary issues shouldn't be partisan, he criticized both the Herbert Hoover and Franklin Roosevelt administrations. In describing the Fed, he remarked in the Congressional Record, House pages 1295 and 1296 on June 10, 1932, that: Mr. Chairman,we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal reserve banks. The Federal Reserve Board, a Government Board, has cheated the Government of the United States and he people of the United States out of enoughmoney to pay the national debt. The depredations and the iniquities of the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal reserve banks acting together have cost this country enough money to pay the national debt several times over. This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of the UnitedStates; has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government. It has done this through the maladministration of that law by which the Federal Reserve Board, and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it. Some people think the Federal reserve banks are United States Government institutions. They are not Government institutions. They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory money lenders. In that dark crew of financial pirates there are those who would cut a man's throat to get a dollar out of his pocket; there are those who send money into States to buy votes to control our legislation; and there are those who maintain an international propaganda for the purpose of deceiving us and of wheedling us into the granting of new concessions which will permit them to cover up their past misdeeds and set again in motion their gigantic train of crime. Those 12 private credit monopolies were deceitfully and disloyally foisted upon this country by bankers who camehere from Europe and who repaid us for our hospitality by undermining our American institutions. The Fed basically works like this: The government granted its power to create money to the Fed banks. They create money, then loan it back to the government charging interest. The government levies income taxes to pay the interest on the debt. On this point, it's interesting to note that the Federal Reserve act and the sixteenth amendment, which gave congress the power to collect income taxes, were both passed in 1913. The incredible power of the Fed over the economy is universally admitted. Some people, especially in the banking and academic communities, even support it. On the other hand, there are those, both in the past and in the present, that speak out against it. One of these men was President John F. Kennedy. His efforts were detailed in Jim Marrs' 1990 book, Crossfire: Another overlooked aspect of Kennedy's attempt to reform American society involves money. Kennedy apparently reasoned that by returning to the constitution, which states that only Congress shall coin and regulate money, the soaring national debt could be reduced by not paying interest to the bankers of the Federal Reserve System, who print paper money then loan it to the government at interest. He moved in this area on June 4, 1963, by signing Executive Order 11,110 which called for the issuance of $4,292,893,815 in United States Notes through the U.S. Treasury rather than the traditional Federal Reserve System. That same day, Kennedy signed a bill changing the backing of one and two dollar bills from silver to gold, adding strength to the weakened U.S. currency. Kennedy's comptroller of the currency, James J. Saxon, had been at odds with the powerful Federal Reserve Board for some time, encouraging broader investment and lending powers for banks that were not part of the Federal Reserve system. Saxon also had decided that non-Reserve banks could underwrite state and local general obligation bonds, again weakening the dominant Federal Reserve banks. A number of "Kennedy bills" were indeed issued - the author has a five dollar bill in his possession with the heading "United States Note" - but were quickly withdrawn after Kennedy's death. According to information from the Library of the Comptroller of the Currency, Executive Order 11,110 remains in effect today, although successive administrations beginning with that of President Lyndon Johnson apparently have simply ignored it and instead returned to the practice of paying interest on Federal Reserve notes. Today we continue to use Federal Reserve Notes, and the deficit is at an all-time high. The point being made is that the IRS taxes you pay aren't used for government services. It won't hurt you, or the nation, to legally reduce or eliminate your tax liability. http://www.rense.com/general44/exec.htm From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:31 EDT 2007 Article: 1143754 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.politics.usa:813651 alt.politics.usa.constitution:328512 alt.politics.usa.republican:2659146 alt.politics.democrats:779243 alt.revisionism:1143754 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 11:20:59 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:20:54 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa,alt.politics.usa.constitution,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.politics.democrats,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: The Federal Reserve References: <0O2dnS9QyP-ZqpbYnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> <1158365377.861059.264080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1158386860.981041.170650@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1158422305.125162.154410@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1158422305.125162.154410@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 51 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-NI9qjjOqTUYHeq1cCTsjgwpiVHRHOwMh+Ca91t1DKFEVHBRs8CPun4gmNra+7+pLDvtHYcbqWdfE7qW!2LfU9nzSHe1RGblgucB+TgWyjhWZT3mIKuHTHHalVyCqm9cfPO8CkhVuDppqIOR5XqDwORBU/CKO!TJMUwAfQ X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Joe Bruno wrote: > Protagonist wrote: >> Joe Bruno wrote: >>> Ben C'ramer wrote: >>>> "Joe Bruno" wrote in message >>>> news:1158365377.861059.264080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... >>>>> Parmenides wrote: >>>>>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5934921769808130035 >>>>> I had a double major when I graduated Univ of Illinois: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Accounting >>>>> >>>>> 2. Economics/Finance >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Federal Reserve's primary function is to control the size of the >>>>> money supply in the USA. There are two reasons why this is desirable, >>>>> both of which challenge each other: >>>>> >>>>> 1)If the money supply is too large, we get inflation >>>> With eventual recession and depression. Better get ready for it joey. The >>>> dopey cunts recently printed another two trillion dollars worth of >>>> banknotes. >>> The Fed doesn't print money-the mint does that. >> Fed reserve owns/prints the money > > No, it doesn't. > > > and sells it to the US gov. for 2-3 >> cents /1$. Kennedy printed his own money, curbing the Fed reserve power. >> As we know now, Kennedy was killed after. >> >> The Fed And Executive Order 11110 >> From APFN >> By Cedric X >> 11-20-3 >> >> Executive Order 1110 gave the US the ability to create its own money >> backed by silver. ... >> http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/executiveorder11110.htm >> >> On June 4, 1963, a little known attempt was made to strip the Federal >> Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the government at interest. > > The government borrows from American citizens by issuing Treasury Bills > and Savings Bonds-it does not borrow from the Federal Reserve. > No! It buys money from the Fed. Reserve! JS From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:32 EDT 2007 Article: 1143901 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.politics.usa:813925 alt.politics.usa.constitution:328537 alt.politics.usa.republican:2659485 alt.politics.democrats:779542 alt.revisionism:1143901 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 11:05:04 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 09:05:02 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa,alt.politics.usa.constitution,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.politics.democrats,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: The Federal Reserve References: <0O2dnS9QyP-ZqpbYnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> <1158365377.861059.264080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1158386860.981041.170650@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1158422305.125162.154410@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1158422305.125162.154410@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 60 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-GfcCQbphmHUMCKsnpv3q+V9/sb8ntSp5zQsOBCB594MLkVUDr9eYhgt9oTAuohqq0IrdXfU4WJgJ72U!GfX1fpJx8fjWs7If7CIQj7D5XgS8w1kVUpHE+ddUdzSkJOxtQw0J2+aYrC3z66KEPNFL6Q29OrfQ!CjphudCg X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Joe Bruno wrote: > Protagonist wrote: >> Joe Bruno wrote: >>> Ben C'ramer wrote: >>>> "Joe Bruno" wrote in message >>>> news:1158365377.861059.264080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... >>>>> Parmenides wrote: >>>>>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5934921769808130035 >>>>> I had a double major when I graduated Univ of Illinois: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Accounting >>>>> >>>>> 2. Economics/Finance >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Federal Reserve's primary function is to control the size of the >>>>> money supply in the USA. There are two reasons why this is desirable, >>>>> both of which challenge each other: >>>>> >>>>> 1)If the money supply is too large, we get inflation >>>> With eventual recession and depression. Better get ready for it joey. The >>>> dopey cunts recently printed another two trillion dollars worth of >>>> banknotes. >>> The Fed doesn't print money-the mint does that. >> Fed reserve owns/prints the money > > No, it doesn't. Yes, the mint actually manufactures the money, but from the order of the Fed Reserves, who over sees the operation. Other banks borrow from the Reserves on the Prime landing rate. > > > and sells it to the US gov. for 2-3 >> cents /1$. Kennedy printed his own money, curbing the Fed reserve power. >> As we know now, Kennedy was killed after. >> >> The Fed And Executive Order 11110 >> From APFN >> By Cedric X >> 11-20-3 >> >> Executive Order 1110 gave the US the ability to create its own money >> backed by silver. ... >> http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/executiveorder11110.htm >> >> On June 4, 1963, a little known attempt was made to strip the Federal >> Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the government at interest. > > The government borrows from American citizens by issuing Treasury Bills > and Savings Bonds-it does not borrow from the Federal Reserve. Gov. does not borrow from the Fed, it buys the money. Gov. also raise money through bond offerings. That's why Kennedy started printing the money to curb the Feds power and create real money, backed up by silver and not Fiat money, which has only value what ever it can buy. JS > From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:32 EDT 2007 Article: 1143911 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.politics.usa:813943 alt.politics.usa.constitution:328538 alt.politics.usa.republican:2659504 alt.politics.democrats:779546 alt.revisionism:1143911 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-08!sn-xt-sjc-12!supernews.com!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 11:45:21 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 09:45:20 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa,alt.politics.usa.constitution,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.politics.democrats,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: The Federal Reserve References: <0O2dnS9QyP-ZqpbYnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> <1158365377.861059.264080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1158386860.981041.170650@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1158471612.602577.213990@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 84 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-vbulij8jNC0Ozp4btI3IEBhkh77bfO9b3D8yOlf4haG7lv5v3ybEUztnFd1q1e7T2KY1JZfHVIdZ+oe!43nvV2DcZDwkyabXloCS7KrhfZ8qjzpWGOwht0T1gi+dxdb2aH6d/VeqwGBpJ5SxAvoSHA22eQfd!y5MqKYNx X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Parmenides wrote: > Joe Bruno wrote: >> Ben C'ramer wrote: >>> "Joe Bruno" wrote in message >>> news:1158386860.981041.170650@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >>>> Ben C'ramer wrote: >>>>> "Joe Bruno" wrote in message >>>>> news:1158365377.861059.264080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... >>>>>> Parmenides wrote: >>>>>>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5934921769808130035 >>>>>> >>>>>> I had a double major when I graduated Univ of Illinois: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Accounting >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. Economics/Finance >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Federal Reserve's primary function is to control the size of the >>>>>> money supply in the USA. There are two reasons why this is >>>>>> desirable, >>>>>> both of which challenge each other: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1)If the money supply is too large, we get inflation >>>>> With eventual recession and depression. Better get ready for it >>>>> joey. The >>>>> dopey cunts recently printed another two trillion dollars worth of >>>>> banknotes. >>>> The Fed doesn't print money-the mint does that. >>> And just where did I say the Fed printed the money, dopey. The fact >>> remains, >>> someone has just printed 3 trillion dollars worth of new banknotes. >>> >>> Can you say recession? >> >> >> A recession is a business slowdown. It has nothing to do with printing >> money, you ignoramus. >> >> >> The American economy, like most freemarket economies, is somewhat >> cyclical, with occasional recessions and booms. >> >> There were several recessions in the 20th Century and numerous ones in >> the 19th century. >> >> Excessive money printing can cause inflation, but not recession. >> In addition, the Federal Reserve's concept of "money" includes more >> than just dollar bills-it also includes bank deposits on which checks >> are written with no actual dollar bills changing hands. >> >> Most banks in the Federal Reserve System maintain only about 25% of >> their accounts in actual cash. >> >> Apparently, you are too dumb to know that. >> > > Who owns the Federal Reserve? >>Who actually owns the Federal Reserve Central Banks? The ownership of the 12 Central banks, a very well kept secret, has been revealed: Rothschild Bank of London Warburg Bank of Hamburg Rothschild Bank of Berlin Lehman Brothers of New York Lazard Brothers of Paris Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy Goldman, Sachs of New York Warburg Bank of Amsterdam Chase Manhattan Bank of New York (Reference 14, P. 13, Reference 12, P. 152) These bankers are connected to London Banking Houses which ultimately control the FED. When England lost the Revolutionary War with America (our forefathers were fighting their own government), they planned to control us by controlling our banking system, the printing of our money, and our debt (Reference 4, 22).<< http://www.worldnewsstand.net/today/articles/fedprivatelyowned.htm Looks like, Jews to me! JS From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:32 EDT 2007 Article: 1143912 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.politics.usa:813948 alt.politics.usa.constitution:328539 alt.politics.usa.republican:2659506 alt.politics.democrats:779547 alt.revisionism:1143912 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-08!sn-xt-sjc-12!supernews.com!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 11:48:47 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 09:48:45 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa,alt.politics.usa.constitution,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.politics.democrats,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: The Federal Reserve References: <0O2dnS9QyP-ZqpbYnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> <1158365377.861059.264080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1158386860.981041.170650@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1158471612.602577.213990@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1158508556.037269.226140@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1158508556.037269.226140@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <3-GdnZ_fD8ft4ZDYnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com> Lines: 63 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-mbCznV1IK+VVdg5pd3usFPbdt/ETijgrN5KWX4kSyky76ES4DPqpZ1amC8Ocxi+JEurCcYN85vVfeWY!bPWAbLdzZSSKoC21TWw/B86/zqhvGH0kHkV//K9Len2p23Ag8T4AFE5xSfMeLwB4wVV0LsiWe41n!ZcP7KerI X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Joe Bruno wrote: > Parmenides wrote: >> Joe Bruno wrote: >>> Ben C'ramer wrote: >>>> "Joe Bruno" wrote in message >>>> news:1158386860.981041.170650@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >>>>> Ben C'ramer wrote: >>>>>> "Joe Bruno" wrote in message >>>>>> news:1158365377.861059.264080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>> Parmenides wrote: >>>>>>>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5934921769808130035 >>>>>>> I had a double major when I graduated Univ of Illinois: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Accounting >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. Economics/Finance >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Federal Reserve's primary function is to control the size of the >>>>>>> money supply in the USA. There are two reasons why this is desirable, >>>>>>> both of which challenge each other: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1)If the money supply is too large, we get inflation >>>>>> With eventual recession and depression. Better get ready for it joey. The >>>>>> dopey cunts recently printed another two trillion dollars worth of >>>>>> banknotes. >>>>> The Fed doesn't print money-the mint does that. >>>> And just where did I say the Fed printed the money, dopey. The fact remains, >>>> someone has just printed 3 trillion dollars worth of new banknotes. >>>> >>>> Can you say recession? >>> >>> A recession is a business slowdown. It has nothing to do with printing >>> money, you ignoramus. >>> >>> >>> The American economy, like most freemarket economies, is somewhat >>> cyclical, with occasional recessions and booms. >>> >>> There were several recessions in the 20th Century and numerous ones in >>> the 19th century. >>> >>> Excessive money printing can cause inflation, but not recession. >>> In addition, the Federal Reserve's concept of "money" includes more >>> than just dollar bills-it also includes bank deposits on which checks >>> are written with no actual dollar bills changing hands. >>> >>> Most banks in the Federal Reserve System maintain only about 25% of >>> their accounts in actual cash. >>> >>> Apparently, you are too dumb to know that. >>> >> Who owns the Federal Reserve? > > > The Taxpayers. It's a creation of Congress. > Hahaha! Fed Res are privet banks, owned by shareholders, but the shares are not available to the public, since it's creation. Where does the taxpayer fits in here, retard? JS From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:32 EDT 2007 Article: 1143949 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.revisionism:1143949 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-12!supernews.com!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 14:15:42 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 12:15:40 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Einstein fraud Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-I9ZuuwnCx4/FyQmvBWmxV7rGnjsuknh1K9ezAQMJR2DvJ53LN0VlQszKs7edWt3TDLx4y/uTijXJyH+!gtjdffctgGNV+BQPgk+gbq0r9yPVkmMctiXuFboWjNm6X3VXO7bTYgAXUp3UdfMadvCjfb7ipqk+!f24pJVi4 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Let's not forget that another goym did publish e=mv*2 two years before than the Einstein/Maric duo. In 1903 northern italian industrialist and calculus professor Olinto de Pretto (vicentine-venetian) did publish an anticipation of the relativity theory in the scientifical paper Atte. Einstein had a perfect knowledge of the italian language and was aware of the scientific works that were produced in Italy, thanks to the contacts with his venetian italian siwss friend Michele Besso. In this llink from an american university both Maric and De Pretto get their credits. http://www.msu.edu/~mccaske1/writing/eresp.htm. Happy to be goym as Michelangelo, Leonardo etc.. From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:33 EDT 2007 Article: 1143951 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.revisionism:1143951 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-12!supernews.com!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 14:22:13 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 12:22:11 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Einstein's E=mc2 'was Italian's idea' Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <5ZidnS_ci7b4PZDYnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com> Lines: 50 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-Xq259lnzsUnaLdu4YFT7zAN0JKkOSr4o4pl5Ko0WzynQ/PpeHVgQ2Twm521aKLFZRx9PzBobdVuSCHy!1D2Zd1boOWrdnYodomjRSA6IJuR5lfqCIovwE8v2BAJ+duWa+cTA400+uQq4GFTuccHOJ6eJG8db!BhK24bGj X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Thursday November 11, 1999 The Guardian The mathematical equation that ushered in the atomic age was discovered by an unknown Italian dilettante two years before Albert Einstein used it in developing the theory of relativity, it was claimed yesterday. Olinto De Pretto, an industrialist from Vicenza, published the equation E=mc2 in a scientific magazine, Atte, in 1903, said Umberto Bartocci, a mathematical historian. Einstein allegedly used De Pretto's insight in a major paper published in 1905, but De Pretto was never acclaimed, said Professor Bartocci of the University of Perugia. Article continues De Pretto had stumbled on the equation, but not the theory of relativity, while speculating about ether in the life of the universe, said Prof Bartocci. It was republished in 1904 by Veneto's Royal Science Institute, but the equation's significance was not understood. A Swiss Italian named Michele Besso alerted Einstein to the research and in 1905 Einstein published his own work, said Prof Bartocci. It took years for his breakthrough to be grasped. When the penny finally dropped, De Pretto's contribution was overlooked while Einstein went on to become the century's most famous scientist. De Pretto died in 1921. "De Pretto did not discover relativity but there is no doubt that he was the first to use the equation. That is hugely significant. I also believe, though it's impossible to prove, that Einstein used De Pretto's research," said Prof Bartocci, who has written a book on the subject. Einstein's theory held that time and motion are relative to the observer if the speed of light is constant and if all natural laws are the same. A footnote established the equivalence of mass and energy, according to which the energy (E) of a quantity of matter (m) is equal to the product of the mass and the square of the velocity of light (c). Now known as: E=mc2 . The influence of work by other physicists on Einstein's theory is also controversial. A German, David Hilbert, is thought by some to have been decisive. Edmund Robertson, professor of mathematics at St Andrew's University, said: "An awful lot of mathematics was done by people who have never been credited - Arabs in the middle ages, for example. Einstein may have got the idea from someone else, but ideas come from all sorts of places. "De Pretto deserves credit if his contribution can be proven. Even so, it should not detract from Einstein." From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:33 EDT 2007 Article: 1143954 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.revisionism:1143954 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!207.217.77.43.MISMATCH!elnk-pas-nf1!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 14:35:14 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 12:35:11 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Einstein was a fake Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <1_mdnca7EKvvPpDYnZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d@comcast.com> Lines: 422 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-QzrYL6HAJ8z7UWth6vRiNJI+4uPka69w+d5hsUikUwjHJ2GhddUEPAhLG1rPxUkeU2LUmwnM3Kketjc!ZRs6uEg2HpBsDlwCF3f0M071sQSEu8Oe3B+2LpKo6SK5fUUthDVqYrUw8UD32sUTsfgEIxmoK6p9!yE2iSAKI X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Einstein Was A FAKE! Find a jew and you'll always find a liar or a fake, or both. Itz good for jews! Strapu ALBERT EINSTEIN is held up as "a rare genius," who drastically changed the field of theoretical physics. However, using the technique known as 'The Often-Repeated Lie= Truth,' he has been made an idol to young people, and his very name has become synonymous with genius. THE TRUTH, HOWEVER, IS VERY DIFFERENT. Einstein was an inept & moronic person, who could not even tie his own shoelaces; he contributed NOTHING ORIGINAL to the field of quantum mechanics, nor any other science. On the contrary -- he stole the ideas of others, and the Jxxxx-controlled media made him a 'hero.' When we actually examine the life of Albert Einstein, we find that his only 'brilliance' was in his ability to PLAGIARIZE and STEAL OTHER PEOPLE'S IDEAS, PASSING THEM OFF AS HIS OWN. Einstein's education, or lack thereof, is an important part of this story. The Encyclopedia Britannica says of Einstein's early education that he "showed little scholastic ability." It also says that at the age of 15, "with poor grades in history, geography, and languages, he left school with no diploma." Einstein himself wrote in a school paper of his "lack of imagination and practical ability." In 1895, Einstein failed a simple entrance exam to an engineering school in Zurich. This exam consisted mainly of mathematical problems, and Einstein showed himself to be mathematically inept in this exam. He then entered a lesser school hoping to use it as a stepping stone to the engineering school he could not get into, but after graduating in 1900, he still could not get a position at the engineering school! Unable to go to the school as he had wanted, he got a job (with the help of a friend) at the patent office in Bern. He was to be a technical expert third class, which meant that he was too incompetent for a higher qualified position. Even after publishing his so-called ground-breaking papers of 1905 and after working in the patent office for six years, he was only elevated to a second class standing. Remember, the work he was doing at the patent office, for which he was only rated third class, was not quantum mechanics or theoretical physics, but was reviewing technical documents for patents of every day things; yet he was barely qualified. He would work at the patent office until 1909, all the while continuously trying to get a position at a university, but without success. All of these facts are true, but now begins the myth. Supposedly, while working a full time job, without the aid of university colleagues, a staff of graduate students, a laboratory, or any of the things normally associated with an academic setting, Einstein in his spare time wrote four ground-breaking essays in the field of theoretical physics and quantum mechanics that were published in 1905. Many people have recognized the impossibility of such a feat, including Einstein himself, and therefore Einstein has led people to believe that many of these ideas came to him in his sleep, out of the blue, because indeed that is the only logical explanation of how an admittedly inept moron could have written such documents at the age of 26 without any real education. HOWEVER, THE TRUTH IS: HE STOLE THE IDEAS AND PLAGIARIZED THE PAPERS. Therefore, we will look at each of these ideas and discover the source of each. It should be remembered that these ideas are presented by Einstein's worshipers as totally new and completely different, each of which would change the landscape of science. These four papers dealt with the following four ideas, respectively: 1) The foundation of the photon theory of light; 2) The equivalence of energy and mass; 3) The explanation of Brownian motion in liquids; 4) The special theory of relativity. Let us first look at the last of these theories, the theory of relativity. This is perhaps the most famous idea falsely attributed to Einstein. Specifically, this 1905 paper dealt with what Einstein called the Special Theory of Relativity (the General Theory would come in 1915). This theory contradicted the traditional Newtonian mechanics and was based upon two premises: 1) in the absence of acceleration, the laws of nature are the same for all observers; and 2) since the speed of light is independent of the motion of its source, then the time interval between two events is longer for an observer in whose frame of reference the events occur at different places than for an observer in whose frame of reference the events occur in the same place. This is basically the idea that time passes more slowly as one's velocity approaches the speed of light, relative to slower velocities where time would pass faster. This theory has been validated by modern experiments and is the basis for modern physics. But these two premises are far from being originally Einstein's. FIRST OF ALL, THE IDEA THAT THE SPEED OF LIGHT WAS A CONSTANT AND WAS INDEPENDENT OF THE MOTION OF ITS SOURCE WAS NOT EINSTEIN'S AT ALL, BUT WAS PROPOSED BY THE SCOTTISH SCIENTIST JAMES MAXWELL in 1878. Maxwell studied the phenomenon of light extensively and first proposed that it was electromagnetic in nature. James Maxwell wrote an article to this effect for the 1878 edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica. His ideas prompted much debate, and by 1887, as a result of his work and the ensuing debate, the scientific community, particularly Lorentz, Michelson, and Morley reached the conclusion that the velocity of light was independent of the velocity of the observer. Thus, this piece of the Special Theory of Relativity was known 27 years before Einstein wrote his paper. This debate over the nature of light also led Michelson and Morley to conduct an important experiment, the results of which could not be explained by Newtonian mechanics. They observed a phenomenon caused by relativity but they did not understand relativity. They had attempted to detect the motion of the earth through ether, which was a medium thought to be necessary for the propagation of light. In response to this problem, in 1880, the irish physicist george fitz gerald, who had also first proposed a mechanism for producing radio waves, wrote a paper which stated that the results of the michelson-morley experiment could be explained if, "...the length of material bodies changes, according as they are moving through the either or across it by an amount depending on the square of the ratio of their velocities to that of light." THIS IS THE THEORY OF RELATIVITY, 13 YEARS BEFORE EINSTEIN'S PAPER! FURTHER... IN 1892, HENDRIK LORENTZ, of the Netherlands, proposed the same solution and began to greatly expand the idea. All throughout the 1890's, both Lorentz and FitzGerald worked on these ideas and wrote articles strangely similar to Einstein's Special Theory detailing what is now known as the Lorentz-Fitz Gerald Contraction. In 1898, the Irishman Joseph Larmor wrote down equations explaining the Lorentz-Fitzgerald contraction and its relativistic consequences, 7 years before Einstein's paper. By 1904, "Lorentz transformations," the series of equations explaining relativity, were published by Lorentz. They> describe the increase of mass, the shortening of length, and the time dilation of a body moving at speeds close to the velocity of light. In short, by 1904, everything in "Einstein's paper" regarding the Special Theory of Relativity had already been published. The Frenchman Poincaré had, in 1898, written a paper unifying many of these ideas. He stated seven years before Einstein's paper: "...we have no direct intuition about the equality of two time intervals. The simultaneity of two events or the order of their succession, as well as the equality of two time intervals, must be defined in such a way that the statements of the natural laws be as simple as possible." Anyone who has read Einstein's 1905 paper will immediately recognize the similarity and the lack of originality on the part of Einstein. Thus, we see that the only thing original about the paper was the term 'Special Theory of Relativity.' EVERYTHING ELSE WAS PLAGIARIZED. Over the next few years, Poincaré became one of the most important lecturers and writers regarding relativity, but he never, in any of his papers or speeches, mentioned Albert Einstein. Thus, while Poincaré was busy bringing the rest of the academic world up to speed regarding relativity, Einstein was still working in the patent> office in Bern and no one in the academic community thought it necessary to give much credence or mention to Einstein's work. Most of these early physicists knew that he was a fraud. This brings us to the explanation of Brownian motion, the subject of another of Einstein's 1905 papers. Brownian motion describes the irregular motion of a body arising from the thermal energy of the molecules of the material in which the body is immersed. The movement had first been observed by the Scottish botanist Robert Brown in 1827. The explanation of this phenomenon has to do with the Kinetic Theory of Matter, and it was the American Josiah Gibbs and the Austrian Ludwig Boltzmann who first explained this occurrence, not Albert Einstein. In fact, the mathematical equation describing the motion contains the famous Boltzmann constant, k. Between these two men, they had explained by the 1890s everything in Einstein's 1905 paper regarding Brownian motion. The subject of the equivalence of mass and energy was contained in a third paper published by Einstein in 1905. This concept is expressed by the famous equation E=mc2. Einstein's biographers categorize this as "his most famous and most spectacular conclusion." Even though this idea is an obvious conclusion of Einstein's earlier relativity paper, it was not included in that paper but was published as an afterthought later in the year. Still, the idea of energy-mass equivalence was not original with Einstein. That there was an equivalence between mass and energy had been shown in the laboratory in the 1890s by both J.J. Thomsom of Cambridge and by W. Kaufmann in Göttingen. In 1900, Poincaré had shown that there was a mass relationship for all forms of energy, not just electromagnetic energy. Yet, the most probable source of Einstein's plagiarism was Friedrich Hasenöhrl, one of the most brilliant, yet unappreciated physicists of the era. Hasenöhrl was the teacher of many of the German scientists who would later become famous for a variety of topics. He had worked on the idea of the equivalence of mass and energy for many years and had published a paper on the topic in 1904 in the very same journal which Einstein would publish his plagiarized version in 1905. For his brilliant work in this area, Hasenörhl had received in 1904 a prize from the prestigious Vienna Academy of Sciences. Furthermore, the mathematical relationship of mass and energy was a simple deduction from the already well-known equations of Scottish physicist James Maxwell. Scientists long understood that the mathematical relationship expressed by the equation E=mc2 was the logical result of Maxwell's work, they just did not believe it. THUS, THE EXPERIMENTS OF THOMSON, KAUFMANN, AND FINALLY, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, HASENÖRHL, CONFIRMED MAXWELL'S WORK. IT IS LUDICROUS TO BELIEVE THAT EINSTEIN DEVELOPED THIS POSTULATE, particularly in light of the fact that Einstein did not have the laboratory necessary to conduct the appropriate experiments. In this same plagiarized article of Einstein's, he suggested to the scientific community, "Perhaps it will prove possible to test this theory using bodies whose energy content is variable to a high degree (e.g., salts of radium)." This remark demonstrates how little Einstein understood about science, for this was truly an outlandish remark. By saying this, Einstein showed that he really did not understand basic scientific principles and that he was writing about a topic that he did not understand. In fact, in response to this article, J. Precht remarked that such an experiment "lies beyond the realm of possible experience." The last subject dealt with in Einstein's 1905 papers was the foundation of the photon theory of light. Einstein wrote about the photoelectric effect. The photoelectric effect is the release of electrons from certain metals or semiconductors by the action of light. This area of research is particularly important to the Einstein myth because it was for this topic that he UNJUSTLY received his 1922 Nobel Prize. But AGAIN IT IS NOT EINSTEIN, BUT WILHELM WIEN AND MAX PLANCK WHO DESERVE THE CREDIT. The main point of Einstein's paper, and the point for which he is given credit, is that light is emitted and absorbed in finite packets called quanta. This was the explanation for the photoelectric effect. The photoelectric effect had been explained by Heinrich Hertz in 1888. Hertz and others, including Philipp Lenard, worked on understanding this phenomenon. Lenard was the first to show that the energy of the electrons released in the photoelectric effect was not governed by the intensity of the light but by the frequency of the light. This was an important breakthrough. Wien and Planck were colleagues and they were the fathers of modern day quantum theory. By 1900, Max Planck, based upon his and Wien's work, had shown that radiated energy was absorbed and emitted in finite units called quanta. The only difference in his work of 1900 and Einstein's work of 1905 was that Einstein limited himself to talking about one particular type of energy light energy. But the principles and equations governing the process in general had been deduced by Planck in 1900. Einstein himself admitted that the obvious conclusion of Planck's work was that light also existed in discrete packets of energy. Thus, nothing in this paper of Einstein's was original. After the 1905 papers of Einstein were published, the scientific community took little notice and Einstein continued his job at the patent office until 1909 when it was arranged by World Jewry for him to take a position at a school . Still, it was not until a 1919 A Jewish newspaper headline that he gained any notoriety. With Einstein's academic appointment in 1909, he was placed in a position where he could begin to use other people's work as his own more openly. He engaged many of his students to look for ways to prove the theories he had supposedly developed, or ways to apply those theories, and then he could present the research as his own or at least take partial credit. In this vein, in 1912, he began to try and express his gravitational research in terms of a new, recently developed calculus, which was conducive to understanding relativity. This was the beginning of his General Theory of Relativity, which he would publish in 1915. BUT THE MATHEMATICAL WORK WAS NOT DONE BY EINSTEIN - HE WAS INCAPABLE OF IT. Instead, it was performed by the mathematician Marcel Grossmann, who in turn used the mathematical principles developed by Berhard Riemann, who was the first to develop a sound non-Euclidean geometry, which is the basis of all mathematics used to describe relativity. The General Theory of Relativity applied the principles of relativity to the universe; that is, to the gravitational pull of planets and their orbits, and the general principle that light rays bend as they pass by a massive object. Einstein published an initial paper in 1913 based upon the work which Grossmann did, adapting the math of Riemann to Relativity. But this paper was filled with errors and the conclusions were incorrect. It appears that Grossmann was not smart enough to figure it out for Einstein. So Einstein was forced to look elsewhere to plagiarize his General Theory. Einstein published his correct General Theory of Relativity in 1915, and said prior to its publication that he, "completely succeeded in convincing Hilbert and Klein." He is referring to David Hilbert, perhaps the most brilliantmathematician of the 20th century, and Felix Klein, another mathematician who had been instrumental in the development of the area of calculus that Grossmann had used to develop the General Theory of Relativity for Einstein. Einstein's statement regarding the two men would lead the reader to believe that Einstein had changed Hilbert's and Klein's opinions regarding General Relativity, and that he had influenced them in their thinking. However, the exact opposite is true. EINSTEIN STOLE THE MAJORITY OF HIS GENERAL RELATIVITY WORK FROM THESE TWO MEN, THE REST BEING TAKEN FROM GROSSMANN. HILBERT SUBMITTED FOR PUBLICATION, A WEEK BEFORE EINSTEIN COMPLETED HIS WORK, A PAPER WHICH CONTAINED THE CORRECT FIELD EQUATIONS, OF GENERAL RELATIVITY. What this means is that Hilbert wrote basically the exact same paper, with the same conclusions, before Einstein did. Einstein would have had an opportunity to know of Hilbert's work all along, because there were friends of his working for Hilbert. Yet, even this was not necessary, for Einstein had seen Hilbert's paper in advance of publishing his own. Both of these papers were, before being printed, delivered in the form of a lecture. Einstein presented his paper on November 25, 1915 in Berlin and Hilbert had presented his paper on November 20 in Göttingen. On November 18, Hilbert received a letter from Einstein thanking him for sending him a draft of the treatise Hilbert was to deliver on the 20th. So, in fact, Hilbert had sent a copy of his work at least two weeks in advance to Einstein before either of the two men delivered their lectures, but Einstein did not send Hilbert an advance copy of his. Therefore, THIS SERVES AS INCONTROVERTIBLE PROOF THAT EINSTEIN QUICKLY PLAGIARIZED THE WORK AND THEN PRESENTED IT, HOPING TO BEAT HILBERT TO THE PUNCH. Also, at the same time, Einstein publicly began to belittle Hilbert, even though in the previous summer he had praised him in an effort to get Hilbert to share his work with him. Hilbert made the mistake of sending Einstein this draft copy, but still he delivered his work first. Not only did Hilbert publish his work first, but it was of much higher quality than Einstein's. It is known today that there are many problems with assumptions made in Einstein's General Theory paper. We know today that Hilbert was much closer to the truth. Hilbert's paper is the forerunner of the unified field theory of gravitation and electromagnetism and of the work of Erwin Schrödinger, whose work is the basis of all modern day quantum mechanics. That the group of men discussed so far were the actual originators of the ideas claimed by Einstein was known by the scientific community all along. In 1940, a group of German physicists meeting in Austria declared that "before Einstein, Aryan scientists like Lorentz, Hasenöhrl, Poincaré, etc., had created the foundations of the theory of relativity." However, the Jewish media did not promote the work of these men. The Jewish media did not promote the work of David Hilbert, but instead they promoted the work of the Jew Albert Einstein. As we mentioned earlier, this General Theory, as postulated by Hilbert first and in plagiarized form by Einstein second, stated that light rays should bend when they pass by a massive object. In 1919, during the eclipse of the Sun, light from distant stars passing close to the Sun was observed to bend according to the theory. This evidence supported the General Theory of Relativity, and the Jxxxx-controlled media immediately seized upon the opportunity to prop up Einstein as a hero, at the expense of the true genius, David Hilbert. On November 7th, 1919, the London Times ran an article, the headline of which proclaimed, "Revolution in science - New theory of the Universe - Newtonian ideas overthrown." This was the beginning of the force-feeding of the Einstein myth to the masses. In the following years, Einstein's earlier 1905 papers were propagandized and Einstein was heralded as the originator of all the ideas he had stolen. Because of this push by the Jewish media, in 1922, EINSTEIN RECEIVED THE NOBEL PRIZE FOR THE WORK HE HAD STOLEN IN 1905 REGARDING THE PHOTOELECTRIC EFFECT. The establishment of the Einstein farce between 1919 and 1922 was an important coup for world Zionism and Jewry. As soon as Einstein had been established as an idol to the popular masses of England and America, his image was promoted as the rare genius that he is erroneously believed to be today. As such, he immediately began his work as a tool for World Zionism. The masses bought into the idea that if someone was so brilliant as to change our fundamental understanding of the universe, then certainly we ought to listen to his opinions regarding political and social issues. This is exactly what World Jewry wanted to establish in its ongoing effort of social engineering. They certainly did not want someone like David Hilbert to be recognized as rare genius. After all, this physicist had come from a strong German, Christian background. His grandfather's two middle names were 'Fürchtegott Leberecht' or 'Fear God, Live Right.' In August of 1934, the day before a vote was to be taken regarding installing Adolf Hitler as President of the Reich, Hilbert signed a proclamation in support of Adolf Hitler, along with other leading German scientists, that was published in the German newspapers. So the Jews certainly did not want David Hilbert receiving the credit he deserved. The Jews did not want Max Planck receiving the credit he deserved either. This German's grandfather and great-grandfather had been important German theologians, and during World War II he would stay in Germany throughout the war, supporting his fatherland the best he could. The Jews certainly did not want the up-and-coming Erwin Schrödinger to be heralded as a genius to the masses. This Austrian physicist would go on to teach at Adolf Hitler University in Austria, and he wrote a public letter expressing his support for the Third Reich. This Austrian's work on the unified field theory was a forerunner of modern physics, even though it had been criticized by Einstein, who apparently could not understand it. The Jews did not want to have Werner Heisenberg promoted as a rare genius, even though he would go on to solidify quantum theory and contribute to it greatly, as well as develop his famous uncertainty principle, in addition to describing the modern atom and nucleus and the binding energies that are essential to modern chemistry. NO, THE JEWS DID NOT WANT HEISENBERG PROMOTED AS A GENIUS BECAUSE HE WOULD GO ON TO HEAD THE GERMAN ATOMIC BOMB PROJECT AND SERVE PRISON TIME AFTER THE WAR FOR HIS INVOLVEMENT WITH THE THIRD REICH. No, the Jews did not want to give credit to any of a number of Germans, Austrians, Irishmen, Frenchmen, Scotsmen, Englishmen, and even Americans who had contributed to the body of knowledge and evidence from which Einstein plagiarized and stole his work. Instead, they needed to erect Einstein as their golden calf, even though he repeatedly and often embarrassed himself with his nonfactual or nearsighted comments regarding the work he had supposedly done. For example, in 1934, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ran a front page article in which Einstein gave an "emphatic denial" regarding the idea of practical applications for the "energy of the atom." The article says, "But the 'energy of the atom' is something else again. If you believe that man will someday be able to harness this boundless energyto drive a great steamship across the ocean on a pint of water, for instancethen, according to Einstein, you are wrong" Again, Einstein clearly did not understand the branch of physics he had supposedly founded, though elsewhere in the world at the time theoretical research was underway that would lead to the atomic bomb and nuclear energy. But after Einstein was promoted as a god in 1919, he made no real attempts to plagiarize any other work. Rather, he began his real purpose evangelizing for the cause of Zionism and World Jewry. Though he did publish other articles after this time, all of them were co-authored by at least one other person, and in each instance, Einstein had little if anything to do with the research that led to the articles; he was merely recruited by the co-authors in order to lend credence to their work. Thus freed of the pretense of academia, Einstein began his assault for World Zionism. From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:35 EDT 2007 Article: 1143959 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.politics.usa:814047 alt.politics.usa.constitution:328549 alt.politics.usa.republican:2659617 alt.politics.democrats:779674 alt.revisionism:1143959 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 15:58:32 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:58:28 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa,alt.politics.usa.constitution,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.politics.democrats,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: The Federal Reserve References: <0O2dnS9QyP-ZqpbYnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> <1158365377.861059.264080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1158386860.981041.170650@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1158471612.602577.213990@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1158505708.609709.175350@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 78 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-Y4dToFaOKlAbbul3epNeIST6eDtxXqIXL1ze5oBf1hHHoXFmz5U22ojlIGEhwnnNiPtIKSXpL0DgcPy!6s6BxhB8m7ywpKFu4LPQjTiaEW75eEapFdaYNN+yBNBpJ3zSdxP+rf0iQhZOJRILxW3ylYWYECCo!ihs6eNzA X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Hatto von Aquitanien wrote: > Ben C'ramer wrote: > >> "Joe Bruno" wrote in message >> news:1158505708.609709.175350@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... >>> Ben C'ramer wrote: >>>> "Joe Bruno" wrote in message >>>> news:1158471612.602577.213990@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >>>>> Ben C'ramer wrote: >>>>>> "Joe Bruno" wrote in message >>>>>> news:1158386860.981041.170650@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>> Ben C'ramer wrote: >>>>>>>> "Joe Bruno" wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:1158365377.861059.264080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>> Parmenides wrote: >>>>>>>>>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5934921769808130035 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I had a double major when I graduated Univ of Illinois: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. Accounting >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2. Economics/Finance >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Federal Reserve's primary function is to control the size of >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> money supply in the USA. There are two reasons why this is >>>>>>>>> desirable, >>>>>>>>> both of which challenge each other: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1)If the money supply is too large, we get inflation >>>>>>>> With eventual recession and depression. Better get ready for it >>>>>>>> joey. >>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>> dopey cunts recently printed another two trillion dollars worth of >>>>>>>> banknotes. >>>>>>> The Fed doesn't print money-the mint does that. >>>>>> And just where did I say the Fed printed the money, dopey. The fact >>>>>> remains, >>>>>> someone has just printed 3 trillion dollars worth of new banknotes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you say recession? >>>>> >>>>> A recession is a business slowdown. It has nothing to do with printing >>>>> money, you ignoramus. >>>> Bullshit, you dopey cunt. It's often caused by huge increases in >>>> interest rates as a result of inflation, brought upon by the >>>> introduction of too much >>>> cash. >>>> >>>> Where the fuck did you learn accounting, you dopey cunt? No wonder you >>>> were >>>> fired. >>> I wasn't. YOu don't even know what subject you're discussing. It's >>> finance, not accounting. >> Allright, fine point. Not fired, but given no option. How about that. >> >> When one learns accounting, you fool, one also learns the basics of >> economics and finance, fool. Apparently you were asleep during these >> segments, as you were when you were taught CPR. > > How does it happen that the supply of money grows and > contracts 'arbitrarily'? > > How many US dollars are there? NB: that is not the same question as 'how > many US dollars are there in circulation?' > > If the number of US dollars is not constant over time, then how are new > dollars introduced into the economy, and how are they removed from the > economy? It depends where it used. Money now days mostly electronic. Businesses, banks, stocks come and go, new ones come or go, money destroyed, changed hand or new created. Now days don't even need a printing press any more, it's just there through software. JS From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:35 EDT 2007 Article: 1143969 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.politics.usa:814061 alt.politics.usa.constitution:328552 alt.politics.usa.republican:2659653 alt.politics.democrats:779699 alt.revisionism:1143969 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-12!supernews.com!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 16:42:24 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 14:42:22 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa,alt.politics.usa.constitution,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.politics.democrats,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: The Federal Reserve References: <0O2dnS9QyP-ZqpbYnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> <1158365377.861059.264080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1158386860.981041.170650@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1158471612.602577.213990@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1158508556.037269.226140@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <3-GdnZ_fD8ft4ZDYnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com> <1158528962.175714.193990@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1158528962.175714.193990@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 90 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-nbV/zAUhTEhZbmC3AWrE3f6eKqrNStAMnDIeA2fhf7G5n8iTNG3pNj7ik4kusz4ng1LGplcdD0ueiNB!smAXj6qOWF0T92S3dNYcEOT8hxNbIfdY8KAqEMEUUK3ZRmRU02JOI1LfQEKEG21YybyQktQ4cOtl!lUUWU8H8 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Joe Bruno wrote: > Protagonist wrote: >> Joe Bruno wrote: >>> Parmenides wrote: >>>> Joe Bruno wrote: >>>>> Ben C'ramer wrote: >>>>>> "Joe Bruno" wrote in message >>>>>> news:1158386860.981041.170650@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>> Ben C'ramer wrote: >>>>>>>> "Joe Bruno" wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:1158365377.861059.264080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>> Parmenides wrote: >>>>>>>>>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5934921769808130035 >>>>>>>>> I had a double major when I graduated Univ of Illinois: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. Accounting >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2. Economics/Finance >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Federal Reserve's primary function is to control the size of the >>>>>>>>> money supply in the USA. There are two reasons why this is desirable, >>>>>>>>> both of which challenge each other: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1)If the money supply is too large, we get inflation >>>>>>>> With eventual recession and depression. Better get ready for it joey. The >>>>>>>> dopey cunts recently printed another two trillion dollars worth of >>>>>>>> banknotes. >>>>>>> The Fed doesn't print money-the mint does that. >>>>>> And just where did I say the Fed printed the money, dopey. The fact remains, >>>>>> someone has just printed 3 trillion dollars worth of new banknotes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you say recession? >>>>> A recession is a business slowdown. It has nothing to do with printing >>>>> money, you ignoramus. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The American economy, like most freemarket economies, is somewhat >>>>> cyclical, with occasional recessions and booms. >>>>> >>>>> There were several recessions in the 20th Century and numerous ones in >>>>> the 19th century. >>>>> >>>>> Excessive money printing can cause inflation, but not recession. >>>>> In addition, the Federal Reserve's concept of "money" includes more >>>>> than just dollar bills-it also includes bank deposits on which checks >>>>> are written with no actual dollar bills changing hands. >>>>> >>>>> Most banks in the Federal Reserve System maintain only about 25% of >>>>> their accounts in actual cash. >>>>> >>>>> Apparently, you are too dumb to know that. >>>>> >>>> Who owns the Federal Reserve? >>> >>> The Taxpayers. It's a creation of Congress. >>> >> Hahaha! Fed Res are privet banks, owned by shareholders, but the shares >> are not available to the public, since it's creation. >> Where does the taxpayer fits in here, retard? >> JS > > > > The Banks in the Fed Reserve system are regulated by the Federal > Reserve. Stock ownership is another topic altogether. > >>Who actually owns the Federal Reserve Central Banks? The ownership of the 12 Central banks, a very well kept secret, has been revealed: Rothschild Bank of London Warburg Bank of Hamburg Rothschild Bank of Berlin Lehman Brothers of New York Lazard Brothers of Paris Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy Goldman, Sachs of New York Warburg Bank of Amsterdam Chase Manhattan Bank of New York (Reference 14, P. 13, Reference 12, P. 152) These bankers are connected to London Banking Houses which ultimately control the FED. When England lost the Revolutionary War with America (our forefathers were fighting their own government), they planned to control us by controlling our banking system, the printing of our money, and our debt (Reference 4, 22).<< http://www.worldnewsstand.net/today/articles/fedprivatelyowned.htm Looks like, Jews to me! From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:36 EDT 2007 Article: 1143973 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.politics.usa:814079 alt.politics.usa.constitution:328555 alt.politics.usa.republican:2659665 alt.politics.democrats:779708 alt.revisionism:1143973 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 17:15:45 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 15:15:42 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa,alt.politics.usa.constitution,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.politics.democrats,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: The Federal Reserve References: <0O2dnS9QyP-ZqpbYnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> <1158365377.861059.264080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1158386860.981041.170650@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1158471612.602577.213990@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1158530248.410564.284090@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1158530248.410564.284090@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 98 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-eGl70ncy0MiQxPGdjb0vMoLIFoQRqPUd/9iHmJKzQDkEjv54XYazYfTFP0IYeZkwWMQiQ6V8iNhD1uG!Toh5JaVcTlgEVvrRRmEbNtDP6ooZVApYeWODhX4Fij7vZLLbkulrAznIJ3uDsmH9UDOP7IobSwrT!vtwTZvKE X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Joe Bruno wrote: > Protagonist wrote: >> Parmenides wrote: >>> Joe Bruno wrote: >>>> Ben C'ramer wrote: >>>>> "Joe Bruno" wrote in message >>>>> news:1158386860.981041.170650@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >>>>>> Ben C'ramer wrote: >>>>>>> "Joe Bruno" wrote in message >>>>>>> news:1158365377.861059.264080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>> Parmenides wrote: >>>>>>>>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5934921769808130035 >>>>>>>> I had a double major when I graduated Univ of Illinois: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. Accounting >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2. Economics/Finance >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Federal Reserve's primary function is to control the size of the >>>>>>>> money supply in the USA. There are two reasons why this is >>>>>>>> desirable, >>>>>>>> both of which challenge each other: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1)If the money supply is too large, we get inflation >>>>>>> With eventual recession and depression. Better get ready for it >>>>>>> joey. The >>>>>>> dopey cunts recently printed another two trillion dollars worth of >>>>>>> banknotes. >>>>>> The Fed doesn't print money-the mint does that. >>>>> And just where did I say the Fed printed the money, dopey. The fact >>>>> remains, >>>>> someone has just printed 3 trillion dollars worth of new banknotes. >>>>> >>>>> Can you say recession? >>>> >>>> A recession is a business slowdown. It has nothing to do with printing >>>> money, you ignoramus. >>>> >>>> >>>> The American economy, like most freemarket economies, is somewhat >>>> cyclical, with occasional recessions and booms. >>>> >>>> There were several recessions in the 20th Century and numerous ones in >>>> the 19th century. >>>> >>>> Excessive money printing can cause inflation, but not recession. >>>> In addition, the Federal Reserve's concept of "money" includes more >>>> than just dollar bills-it also includes bank deposits on which checks >>>> are written with no actual dollar bills changing hands. >>>> >>>> Most banks in the Federal Reserve System maintain only about 25% of >>>> their accounts in actual cash. >>>> >>>> Apparently, you are too dumb to know that. >>>> >>> Who owns the Federal Reserve? >> >>Who actually owns the Federal Reserve Central Banks? The ownership of >> the 12 Central banks, a very well kept secret, has been revealed: >> >> Rothschild Bank of London >> Warburg Bank of Hamburg >> Rothschild Bank of Berlin >> Lehman Brothers of New York >> Lazard Brothers of Paris >> Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York >> Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy >> Goldman, Sachs of New York >> Warburg Bank of Amsterdam >> Chase Manhattan Bank of New York >> (Reference 14, P. 13, Reference 12, P. 152) >> >> These bankers are connected to London Banking Houses which ultimately >> control the FED. When England lost the Revolutionary War with America >> (our forefathers were fighting their own government), they planned to >> control us by controlling our banking system, the printing of our money, >> and our debt (Reference 4, 22).<< >> http://www.worldnewsstand.net/today/articles/fedprivatelyowned.htm >> >> Looks like, Jews to me! >> JS > > > Stock ownership is a separate matter from regulation. The Federal > Reserve is a regulating entity created by Congress. Even private > industry, no matter who owns it, must obey the laws and regulations > made by Congress and the administrative agencies it creates. > Apparently, you're too stupid to see the difference. Ownership only > gives you the right to share in the profits. It does not give you the > right to break the law. > > http://www.federalreserve.gov/general.htm > Congress is owned by privet industry. I've seen Allan G testifying in front of congress, all congressman are chicken scared of him! Keep reading the laws, moron! JS From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:36 EDT 2007 Article: 1143976 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.revisionism:1143976 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-12!supernews.com!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 18:06:05 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 16:06:01 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Einstein fraud References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 103 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-pSQ6ZlZl3scNrRTwMXhjRg6sfiJ/BDQIRWmGYqFOd81thgoi8G1oPCjbufi+WYiO74fYyfLNHNdIgou!M+NDtsO//FDsOLWhHTiVjiBn/IE2wzEbYXg4YiIQDb3SDiAfW+OAMipysYeYrpU5Q77MXSjzw1R+!VusKSjCk X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Ron Jacobson wrote: > In article , > Protagonist wrote: > >> Let's not forget that another goym did publish e=mv*2 two years before >> than the Einstein/Maric duo. > > Well, let's see. > > Here's the alleged "discovery": > > http://www.protsv.fi/lfs/verkko/Pollesello/sld011.htm > > As we can see, it's wrong. The "De Pretto formula" states > that one gram of matter is equivalent to 10,974,000,000,000 > calories. > > But -- that's incorrect. According to Einstein's E=m*c^2, > one gram of matter is equivalent to 900*10^18 ergs, which is > 21,496,130,696,475 calories (see e.g. > http://www.hans-hass.de/Englisch/Energon/4_6_Development.html). > > So, the Italian guy is wrong by a factor of about two. As > far as I can see, he simply computes the kinetic energy (from > good old Newtonian mechanics), of a gram of matter moving > in the speed of light. This is absolutely trivial, and of > course different from Einstein's result. Also, it's basically > incorrect, since matter cannot move in the speed of light. > > RJ. Einstien letter to his wife! >>"How happy and proud I will be when the two of us together will have brought our work on the relative motion to a victorious conclusion!" Our work??? This is just one isolated quotation. Should you read the entire Love Letters you will find that Albert shares all his physics ideas with her and is extremely interested in her opinion. There are literally dozens of examples. See the copyrighted manuscript by Evan Harris Walker "Ms. Einstein". There is also a book by Ann Gabor called, "Mrs. Einstein" which essentially parrots Dr. Walker's work but fails to give him any attribution.<< Then I must also mention Olinto De Pretto. Albert Einstein was quite fluent in Italian. According to the already cited Pais biography, when Einstein graduated from high school in Aarau he was required to take exams in both the German language and the Italian language. Out of a maximum score of 6, Einstein received a score of 5 in German (his native tongue) and also a score of 5 in Italian! Of course, Einstein had lived in Italy during his youth, and Einstein's father is buried in Milan. Further, during the very same "anno mirabilis" of 1905, when Einstein published his famous four physics papers in the Annalen der Physik, he also published in the very same Annalen der Physik two reviews of articles written in Italian by Italian physicists. Again, these were reviews of articles written in Italian and were published in the Annalen der Physik in 1905, which shows that Einstein was reading rather deeply the Italian literature in physics at the time. Moreover, Michele Besso, the only person credited in the famous E=mc^2 paper of 1905, was originally from the Veneto region of Italy; his native tongue was Italian. Also, in order for Einstein to gain Swiss citizenship (a requirement for him to work in the Berne patent office since that was a government job) it could only help him if he could show proficiency in Italian, which, along with German and French, is one of the three official languages of Switzerland. Finally, there are still extant postcards written by Einstein in Italian as well as living Italians who spoke to Einstein in his later years who attest to his fluency. There is no doubt that Einstein spoke Italian well. Why do I emphasize Einstein's fluency in Italian? Because another native of the Veneto region, an industrialist named Olinto De Pretto, had published an article in which De Pretto gave, in its final form, the equation E=mc^2. This article was published in 1903 and published again in 1904; preceding Einstein's 1905 "E=mc^2" paper by at least a year-and-a-half. Dr. Umberto Bartocci, Professor of Mathematics at the University of Perugia, in his book, "Albert Einstein e Olinto De Pretto: la vera storia della formula piu' famosa del mondo" (Albert Einstein and Olinto De Pretto, the true history of the most famous formula in the world) has published De Pretto's article in full. In the article, De Pretto actually comments on how amazing his discovery is. That is a kilogram of any material there is within an extraordinary explosion of energy. De Pretto articulated the formula quite well and realized its significance. This formula, of course, would later be the theoretical basis for the atomic bomb. Throughout all of the famous papers on 1905, Einstein gives no sources or citations. The only credit given to anyone is a brief mention of his friend Michele Besso. Why the lack of citation of any source material? Dr. Bartocci has made a link between Michele Besso and Olinto De Pretto; however, nobody can absolutely prove that Einstein saw De Pretto's article. Yet based on the Besso link with the De Pretto article, and also that Einstein was well aware of other groundbreaking work by Italian physicists (having read deeply the Italian physics literature), it would seem difficult to deny that Einstein was aware of the De Pretto article. Indeed, when Einstein did publish his famous article in 1905 wherein he gave a variation of the famed "E=mc^2" formula, he titled this "discovery" in the form of a question. Perhaps he was not quite sure of its significance or perhaps he wanted the title in the form of a question in order to later attribute it to someone else should the formula prove incorrect. What is absolutely indisputable is that the formula was published, not once but twice, in the Italian physics literature. Its authorship should rightly be credited to the industrialist, Olinto De Pretto. From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:37 EDT 2007 Article: 1143989 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.revisionism:1143989 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-12!supernews.com!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:03:56 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 17:03:52 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Einstein was a fake References: <1_mdnca7EKvvPpDYnZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d@comcast.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <6LydnWBN88jxf5DYnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@comcast.com> Lines: 578 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-QonDv0+UquBCSjI/RQKxAg2U1hydK5uLLQRow+KdIuqJg7iVVEaoR+Pue3q+F0AXuQkBbzbhteqfQGK!0QbkosYr8V4211XqtyRynVvMlTvFB86mAmF087QnA847FC0+sZ90TwePRvl8aVZQerYbujzT7mO8!rd+J70Au X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Ben C'ramer wrote: > "Ron Jacobson" wrote in message > news:eekdt1$pqo$1@pcls6.std.com... >> In article <1_mdnca7EKvvPpDYnZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d@comcast.com>, >> Protagonist wrote: >> >> (snip some drivel) >> >> Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/541840.stm >> >> Einstein the greatest >> >> Albert Einstein has been voted the greatest physicist of all time in >> an end of the millennium poll, pushing Sir Isaac Newton into second place. >> >> The survey was conducted among 100 of today's leading physicists. >> >> "Einstein's special and general theories of relativity completely >> overturned previous conceptions of a universal, immutable space and >> time, and replaced them with a startling new framework in which space >> and time are fluid and malleable," said physicist Brian Greene from >> Columbia University, US, who participated in the poll for Physics >> World magazine. > > Here's an alternative view. A tad more credible than your nonsense, ronnie. > > One of the great Jewish myths of the 20th century is Albert Einstein. > > Albert Einstein is held up by the Jewish liars as a rare genius who > drastically changed the field of theoretical physics. As such, he is made an > idol to young people and his very name has become synonymous with genius. > The truth, however, is very different. The reality is that Einstein was an > inept, moronic Jew who could not even tie his own shoelaces; Haha! That's why he called his shoelace , Maurice, his first wife name. She did every thing for him! JS he contributed > nothing original to the field of quantum mechanics or any other science, but > on the contrary he stole the ideas of other men and the Jewish media made > him a hero. > > When we actually examine the life of Albert Einstein, we find that his only > brilliance lies in his ability to plagiarize and steal other people's ideas, > passing them off as his own. > > Einstein's education, or lack thereof, is an important part of this story. > The Encyclopedia Britannica says of Einstein's early education that he > "showed little scholastic ability." It also says that at the age of 15, > "with poor grades in history, geography, and languages, he left school with > no diploma." Einstein himself wrote in a school paper of his "lack of > imagination and practical ability." In 1895, Einstein failed a simple > entrance exam to an engineering school in Zurich. This exam consisted mainly > of mathematical problems, and Einstein showed himself to be mathematically > inept in this exam. He then entered a lesser school hoping to use it as a > stepping stone to the engineering school he could not get into, but after > graduating in 1900, he still could not get a position at the engineering > school! Unable to go to the school as he had wanted, he got a job (with the > help of a friend) at the patent office in Bern. He was to be a technical > expert third class, which meant that he was too incompetent for a higher > qualified position. Even after publishing his so-called groundbreaking > papers of 1905 and after working in the patent office for six years, he was > only elevated to a second class standing. Remember, the work he was doing at > the patent office, for which he was only rated third class, was not quantum > mechanics or theoretical physics, but was reviewing technical documents for > patents of every day things; yet he was barely qualified. > > He would work at the patent office until 1909, all the while continuously > trying to get a position at a university, but without success. All of these > facts are true, but now begins the Jewish myth. Supposedly, while working a > full time job, without the aid of university colleagues, a staff of graduate > students, a laboratory, or any of the things normally associated with an > academic setting, Einstein in his spare time wrote four ground-breaking > essays in the field of theoretical physics and quantum mechanics that were > published in 1905. Many people have recognized the impossibility of such a > feat, including Einstein himself, and therefore Einstein has led people to > believe that many of these ideas came to him in his sleep, out of the blue, > because indeed that is the only logical explanation of how an admittedly > inept moron could have written such documents at the age of 26 without any > real education. However, a simpler explanation exists: he stole the ideas > and plagiarized the papers. > > Therefore, we will look at each of these ideas and discover the source of > each. It should be remembered that these ideas are presented by Einstein's > worshippers as totally new and completely different, each of which would > change the landscape of science. These four papers dealt with the following > four ideas, respectively: > > > > 1. The foundation of the photon theory of light; > > 2. The equivalence of energy and mass; > > 3. The explanation of Brownian motion in liquids; > > 4. The special theory of relativity. > > Let us first look at the last of these theories, the theory of relativity. > This is perhaps the most famous idea falsely attributed to Einstein. > Specifically, this 1905 paper dealt with what Einstein called the Special > Theory of Relativity (the General Theory would come in 1915). This theory > contradicted the traditional Newtonian mechanics and was based upon two > premises: 1) in the absence of acceleration, the laws of nature are the same > for all observers; and 2) since the speed of light is independent of the > motion of its source, then the time interval between two events is longer > for an observer in whose frame of reference the events occur at different > places than for an observer in whose frame of reference the events occur in > the same place. This is basically the idea that time passes more slowly as > one's velocity approaches the speed of light, relative to slower velocities > where time would pass faster. > > This theory has been validated by modern experiments and is the basis for > modern physics. But these two premises are far from being originally > Einstein's. First of all, the idea that the speed of light was a constant > and was independent of the motion of its source was not Einstein's at all, > but was proposed by the Scottish scientist James Maxwell. Maxwell studied > the phenomenon of light extensively and first proposed that it was > electromagnetic in nature. He wrote an article to this effect for the 1878 > edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica. His ideas prompted much debate, and > by 1887, as a result of his work and the ensuing debate, the scientific > community, particularly Lorentz, Michelson, and Morley reached the > conclusion that the velocity of light was independent of the velocity of the > observer. Thus, this piece of the Special Theory of Relativity was known 27 > years before Einstein wrote his paper. > > This debate over the nature of light also led Michelson and Morley to > conduct an important experiment, the results of which could not be explained > by Newtonian mechanics. They observed a phenomenon caused by relativity but > they did not understand relativity. They had attempted to detect the motion > of the earth through ether, which was a medium thought to be necessary for > the propagation of light. > > In response to this problem, in 1889, the Irish physicist George FitzGerald, > who had also first proposed a mechanism for producing radio waves, wrote a > paper which stated that the results of the Michelson-Morley experiment could > be explained if, > > "... the length of material bodies changes, according as they are moving > through the ether or across it, by an amount depending on the square of the > ratio of their velocities to that of light." > > This is the theory of relativity, 13 years before Einstein's paper! > > Furthermore, in 1892, Hendrik Lorentz, from The Netherlands, proposed the > same solution and began to greatly expand the idea. All throughout the > 1890's, both Lorentz and FitzGerald worked on these ideas and wrote articles > strangely similar to Einstein's Special Theory detailing what is now known > as the Lorentz-FitzGerald Contraction. In 1898, the Irishman Joseph Larmor > wrote down equations explaining the Lorentz-FitzGerald contraction and its > relativistic consequences, 7 years before Einstein's paper. By 1904, Lorentz > transformations, the series of equations explaining relativity, were > published by Lorentz. They describe the increase of mass, the shortening of > length, and the time dilation of a body moving at speeds close to the > velocity of light. In short, by 1904, everything in Einstein's paper > regarding the Special Theory of Relativity had already been published. > > The Frenchman Poincaré had, in 1898, written a paper unifying many of these > ideas. He stated seven years before Einstein's paper that, > > "... we have no direct intuition about the equality of two time intervals. > The simultaneity of two events or the order of their succession, as well as > the equality of two time intervals, must be defined in such a way that the > statements of the natural laws be as simple as possible." > > Anyone who has read Einstein's 1905 paper will immediately recognize the > similarity and the lack of originality on the part of Einstein. Thus we see > that the only thing original about the paper was the term 'Special Theory of > Relativity.' Everything else was plagiarized. Over the next few years, > Poincaré became one of the most important lecturers and writers regarding > relativity, but he never, in any of his papers or speeches, mentioned Albert > Einstein. Thus, while Poincaré was busy bringing the rest of the academic > world up to speed regarding relativity, Einstein was still working in the > patent office in Bern and no one in the academic community thought it > necessary to give much credence or mention to Einstein's work. Most of these > early physicists knew that he was a fraud. > > This brings us to the explanation of Brownian motion, the subject of another > of Einstein's 1905 papers. Brownian motion describes the irregular motion of > a body arising from the thermal energy of the molecules of the material in > which the body is immersed. The movement had first been observed by the > Scottish botanist Robert Brown in 1827. The explanation of this phenomenon > has to do with the Kinetic Theory of Matter, and it was the American Josiah > Gibbs and the Austrian Ludwig Boltzmann who first explained this occurrence, > not Albert Einstein. In fact, the mathematical equation describing the > motion contains the famous Boltzmann constant, k. Between these two men, > they had explained by the 1890s everything in Einstein's 1905 paper > regarding Brownian motion. > > The subject of the equivalence of mass and energy was contained in a third > paper published by Einstein in 1905. This concept is expressed by the famous > equation E=mc^2. Einstein's biographers categorize this as "his most famous > and most spectacular conclusion." Even though this idea is an obvious > conclusion of Einstein's earlier relativity paper, it was not included in > that paper but was published as an afterthought later in the year. Still, > the idea of energy-mass equivalence was not original with Einstein. > > That there was an equivalence between mass and energy had been shown in the > laboratory in the 1890s by both J.J. Thomsom of Cambridge and by W. Kaufmann > in Göttingen. In 1900, Poincaré had shown that there was a mass relationship > for all forms of energy, not just electromagnetic energy. Yet, the most > probable source of Einstein's plagiarism was Friedrich Hasenöhrl, one of the > most brilliant, yet unappreciated physicists of the era. Hasenöhrl was the > teacher of many of the German scientists who would later become famous for a > variety of topics. He had worked on the idea of the equivalence of mass and > energy for many years and had published a paper on the topic in 1904 in the > very same journal which Einstein would publish his plagiarized version in > 1905. For his brilliant work in this area, Hasenörhl had received in 1904 a > prize from the prestigious Vienna Academy of Sciences. > > Furthermore, the mathematical relationship of mass and energy was a simple > deduction from the already well-known equations of Scottish physicist James > Maxwell. Scientists long understood that the mathematical relationship > expressed by the equation E=mc^2 was the logical result of Maxwell's work, > they just did not believe it. Thus, the experiments of Thomson, Kaufmann, > and finally, and most importantly, Hasenörhl, confirmed Maxwell's work. It > is ludicrous to believe that Einstein developed this postulate, particularly > in light of the fact that Einstein did not have the laboratory necessary to > conduct the appropriate experiments. > > In this same plagiarized article of Einstein's, he suggested to the > scientific community, "Perhaps it will prove possible to test this theory > using bodies whose energy content is variable to a high degree (e.g., salts > of radium)." This remark demonstrates how little Einstein understood about > science, for this was truly an outlandish remark. By saying this, Einstein > showed that he really did not understand basic scientific principles and > that he was writing about a topic that he did not understand. In fact, in > response to this article, J. Precht remarked that such an experiment "lies > beyond the realm of possible experience." > > The last subject dealt with in Einstein's 1905 papers was the foundation of > the photon theory of light. Einstein wrote about the photoelectric effect. > The photoelectric effect is the release of electrons from certain metals or > semiconductors by the action of light. This area of research is particularly > important to the Einstein myth because it was for this topic that he > unjustly received his 1922 Nobel Prize. > > But again, it is not Einstein, but Wilhelm Wien and Max Planck who deserve > the credit. The main point of Einstein's paper, and the point for which he > is given credit, is that light is emitted and absorbed in finite packets > called quanta. This was the explanation for the photoelectric effect. The > photoelectric effect had been explained by Heinrich Hertz in 1888. Hertz and > others, including Philipp Lenard, worked on understanding this phenomenon. > Lenard was the first to show that the energy of the electrons released in > the photoelectric effect was not governed by the intensity of the light but > by the frequency of the light. This was an important breakthrough. > > Wien and Planck were colleagues and they were the fathers of modern day > quantum theory. By 1900, Max Planck, based upon his and Wien's work, had > shown that radiated energy was absorbed and emitted in finite units called > quanta. The only difference in his work of 1900 and Einstein's work of 1905 > was that Einstein limited himself to talking about one particular type of > energy - light energy. But the principles and equations governing the > process in general had been deduced by Planck in 1900. Einstein himself > admitted that the obvious conclusion of Planck's work was that light also > existed in discrete packets of energy. Thus, nothing in this paper of > Einstein's was original. > > After the 1905 papers of Einstein were published, the scientific community > took little notice and Einstein continued his job at the patent office until > 1909 when it was arranged for him to take a position at a school by World > Jewry. Still, it was not until a 1919 newspaper headline that he gained any > notoriety. > > With Einstein's academic appointment in 1909, he was placed in a position > where he could begin to use other people's work as his own more openly. He > engaged many of his students to look for ways to prove the theories he had > supposedly developed, or ways to apply those theories, and then he could > present the research as his own or at least take partial credit. In this > vein, in 1912, he began to try and express his gravitational research in > terms of a new, recently developed calculus, which was conducive to > understanding relativity. This was the beginning of his General Theory of > Relativity, which he would publish in 1915. But the mathematical work was > not done by Einstein - he was incapable of it. Instead, it was performed by > the mathematician Marcel Grossmann, who in turn used the mathematical > principles developed by Berhard Riemann, who was the first to develop a > sound non-Euclidean geometry, which is the basis of all mathematics used to > describe relativity. > > The General Theory of Relativity applied the principles of relativity to the > universe; that is, to the gravitational pull of planets and their orbits, > and the general principle that light rays bend as they pass by a massive > object. Einstein published an initial paper in 1913 based upon the work > which Grossmann did, adapting the math of Riemann to Relativity. But this > paper was filled with errors and the conclusions were incorrect. It appears > that Grossmann was not smart enough to figure it out for Einstein. So > Einstein was forced to look elsewhere to plagiarize his General Theory. > Einstein published his correct General Theory of Relativity in 1915, and > said prior to its publication that he, "...completely succeeded in > convincing Hilbert and Klein." He is referring to David Hilbert, perhaps the > most brilliant mathematician of the 20th century, and Felix Klein, another > mathematician who had been instrumental in the development of the area of > calculus that Grossmann had used to develop the General Theory of Relativity > for Einstein. > > Einstein's statement regarding the two men would lead the reader to believe > that Einstein had changed Hilbert's and Klein's opinions regarding General > Relativity, and that he had influenced them in their thinking. However, the > exact opposite is true. Einstein stole the majority of his General > Relativity work from these two men, the rest being taken from Grossmann. > Hilbert submitted for publication, a week before Einstein completed his > work, a paper which contained the correct field equations of General > Relativity. What this means is that Hilbert wrote basically the exact same > paper, with the same conclusions, before Einstein did. Einstein would have > had an opportunity to know of Hilbert's work all along, because there were > Jewish friends of his working for Hilbert. Yet, even this was not necessary, > for Einstein had seen Hilbert's paper in advance of publishing his own. Both > of these papers were, before being printed, delivered in the form of a > lecture. > > Einstein presented his paper on November 25, 1915 in Berlin and Hilbert had > presented his paper on November 20 in Göttingen. On November 18, Hilbert > received a letter from Einstein thanking him for sending him a draft of the > treatise Hilbert was to deliver on the 20th. So, in fact, Hilbert had sent a > copy of his work at least two weeks in advance to Einstein before either of > the two men delivered their lectures, but Einstein did not send Hilbert an > advance copy of his. Therefore, this serves as incontrovertible proof that > Einstein quickly plagiarized the work and then presented it, hoping to beat > Hilbert to the punch. Also, at the same time, Einstein publicly began to > belittle Hilbert, even though in the previous summer he had praised him in > an effort to get Hilbert to share his work with him. Hilbert made the > mistake of sending Einstein this draft copy, but still he delivered his work > first. > > Not only did Hilbert publish his work first, but it was of much higher > quality than Einstein's. It is known today that there are many problems with > assumptions made in Einstein's General Theory paper. We know today that > Hilbert was much closer to the truth. Hilbert's paper is the forerunner of > the unified field theory of gravitation and electromagnetism and of the work > of Erwin Schrödinger, whose work is the basis of all modern day quantum > mechanics. > > That the group of men discussed so far were the actual originators of the > ideas claimed by Einstein was known by the scientific community all along. > In 1940, a group of German physicists meeting in Austria declared that > "before Einstein, Aryan scientists like Lorentz, Hasenöhrl, Poincaré, etc., > had created the foundations of the theory of relativity..." > > However, the Jewish media did not promote the work of these men. The Jewish > media did not promote the work of David Hilbert, but instead they promoted > the work of the Jew Albert Einstein. As we mentioned earlier, this General > Theory, as postulated by Hilbert first and in plagiarized form by Einstein > second, stated that light rays should bend when they pass by a massive > object. In 1919, during the eclipse of the Sun, light from distant stars > passing close to the Sun was observed to bend according to the theory. This > evidence supported the General Theory of Relativity, and the > Jewish-controlled media immediately seized upon the opportunity to prop up > Einstein as a hero, at the expense of the true genius, David Hilbert. > > On November 7th, 1919, the London Times ran an article, the headline of > which proclaimed, "Revolution in science - New theory of the Universe - > Newtonian ideas overthrown." This was the beginning of the force-feeding of > the Einstein myth to the masses. In the following years, Einstein's earlier > 1905 papers were propagandized and Einstein was heralded as the originator > of all the ideas he had stolen. Because of this push by the Jewish media, in > 1922, Einstein received the Nobel Prize for the work he had stolen in 1905 > regarding the photoelectric effect. > > The establishment of the Einstein farce between 1919 and 1922 was an > important coup for world Zionism and Jewry. As soon as Einstein had been > established as an idol to the popular masses of England and America, his > image was promoted as the rare genius that he is erroneously believed to be > today. As such, he immediately began his work as a tool for World Zionism. > The masses bought into the idea that if someone was so brilliant as to > change our fundamental understanding of the universe, then certainly we > ought to listen to his opinions regarding political and social issues. This > is exactly what World Jewry wanted to establish in its ongoing effort of > social engineering. They certainly did not want someone like David Hilbert > to be recognized as rare genius. After all, this physicist had come from a > strong German, Christian background. His grandfather's two middle names were > 'Fürchtegott Leberecht' or 'Fear God, Live Right.' In August of 1934, the > day before a vote was to be taken regarding installing Adolf Hitler as > President of the Reich, Hilbert signed a proclamation in support of Adolf > Hitler, along with other leading German scientists, that was published in > the German newspapers. So the Jews certainly did not want David Hilbert > receiving the credit he deserved. > > The Jews did not want Max Planck receiving the credit he deserved either. > This German's grandfather and great-grandfather had been important German > theologians, and during World War II he would stay in Germany throughout the > war, supporting his fatherland the best he could. > > The Jews certainly did not want the up-and-coming Erwin Schrödinger to be > heralded as a genius to the masses. This Austrian physicist would go on to > teach at Adolf Hitler University in Austria, and he wrote a public letter > expressing his support for the Third Reich. This Austrian's work on the > unified field theory was a forerunner of modern physics, even though it had > been criticized by Einstein, who apparently could not understand it. > > The Jews did not want to have Werner Heisenberg promoted as a rare genius, > even though he would go on to solidify quantum theory and contribute to it > greatly, as well as develop his famous uncertainty principle, in addition to > describing the modern atom and nucleus and the binding energies that are > essential to modern chemistry. No, the Jews did not want Heisenberg promoted > as a genius because he would go on to head the German atomic bomb project > and serve prison time after the war for his involvement with the Third > Reich. > > No, the Jews did not want to give credit to any of a number of white > Germans, Austrians, Irishmen, Frenchmen, Scotsmen, Englishmen, and even > Americans who had contributed to the body of knowledge and evidence from > which Einstein plagiarized and stole his work. Instead, they needed to erect > Einstein as their golden calf, even though he repeatedly and often > embarrassed himself with his nonfactual or nearsighted comments regarding > the work he had supposedly done. For example, in 1934, the Pittsburgh > Post-Gazette ran a front page article in which Einstein gave an "emphatic > denial" regarding the idea of practical applications for the "energy of the > atom." The article says, > > "But the 'energy of the atom' is something else again. If you believe that > man will someday be able to harness this boundless energy-to drive a great > steamship across the ocean on a pint of water, for instance-then, according > to Einstein, you are wrong..." > > Again, Einstein clearly did not understand the branch of physics he had > supposedly founded, though elsewhere in the world at the time theoretical > research was underway that would lead to the atomic bomb and nuclear energy. > But after Einstein was promoted as a god in 1919, he made no real attempts > to plagiarize any other work. Rather, he began his real purpose - > evangelizing for the cause of Zionism and World Jewry. Though he did publish > other articles after this time, all of them were co-authored by at least one > other person, and in each instance, Einstein had little if anything to do > with the research that led to the articles; he was merely recruited by the > co-authors in order to lend credence to their work. Thus freed of the > pretense of academia, Einstein began his assault for World Zionism. > > In 1921, Einstein made his first visit to the United States on a > fund-raising tour for the Hebrew University in Jerusalem and to promote > Zionism. In April of 1922, Einstein used his status to gain membership in a > Commission of the League of Nations. In February of 1923, Einstein visits > Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. In June of 1923, he becomes a founding member of the > Association of Friends of the New Russia. In 1926, Einstein took a break > from his Communist and Zionistic activities to again embarrass himself > scientifically by criticizing the work of Schrödinger and Heisenberg. > Following a brief illness, he resumes his Zionistic agenda, wanting an > independent Israel and at the same time a World Government. > > In the 1930s he actively campaigns against all forms of war, although he > would reverse this position during World War II when he advocated war > against Germany and the creation of the atomic bomb, which he thought was > impossible to build. In 1939 and 1940, Einstein, at the request of other > Jews, wrote two letters to Roosevelt urging an American program to develop > an atomic bomb to be used on Germany - not Japan. Einstein would have no > part in the actual construction of the bomb, theoretical or practical, > because he lacked the skills for either. > > In December of 1946, Einstein rekindles his efforts for a World Government, > with Israel apparently being the only autonomous nation. This push continues > through the rest of the 1940s. In 1952, Einstein, who had been instrumental > in the creation of the State of Israel, both politically and economically, > is offered the presidency of Israel. He declines. In 1953, he spends his > time attacking the McCarthy Committee, and he supports Communists such as J. > Robert Oppenheimer. He encourages civil disobedience in response to the > McCarthy trials. Finally, on April 18, 1955, this filthy Jewish demagogue > dies. > > Dead, the Jews no longer had to worry about Einstein making stupid > statements. His death was just the beginning of his usage and exploitation > by World Jewry. The Jewish-controlled media continued to promote the myth of > this Super-Jew long after his death, and as more and more of the men who > knew better died off, the Jews were more and more able to aggrandize his > myth and lie more boldly. This brazen lying has culminated in the Jew > controlled Time magazine naming Einstein "The Person of the Century" at the > close of 1999. It may be demonstrated that the Jewish lies have become more > bold with the passage of time because Einstein was never named "Man of the > Year" while he was alive, but now, over forty years after his death, he is > named "Person of the Century." > > Einstein was given this title in spite of the clear-cut choice for the > "Person of the Century," Adolf Hitler. Hitler was indeed named "Man of the > Year" while he was still living by Time magazine, and according to a > December 27, 1999, article in the USA Today, Einstein was chosen over Adolf > Hitler because of the perceived "nasty public relations fallout" that would > accompany that choice; yet in internet polling by Time, Hitler finished > third and was the top serious candidate. Still the issue of Time magazine > dedicated to Einstein, which has articles by men with names like Isaacson, > Golden, Stein, Rudenstine, and Rosenblatt, is interesting to read. For one, > they found it necessary to include an article rationalizing why they did not > pick the obvious choice, Adolf Hitler. But more interesting is the article > by Stephen Hawking which purports to be a history of the theory of > relativity. In it, Hawking admits many of the things in this article, such > as the fact that Hilbert published the General Theory of Relativity before > Einstein and that FitzGerald and Lorentz deduced the concept of relativity > long before Einstein. Hawking also writes, > > "Einstein...was deeply disturbed by the work of Werner Heisenberg in > Copenhagen, Paul Dirac in Cambridge and Erwin Schrödinger in Zurich, who > developed a new picture of reality called quantum mechanics. ... Einstein > was horrified by this ... Most scientists, however, accepted the validity of > the new quantum laws because they showed excellent agreement with > observations ... They are the basis of modern developments in chemistry, > molecular biology and electronics and the foundation of the technology that > has transformed the world in the past half-century." > > This is all very true, yet the same magazine credits Einstein with all of > the modern developments that Hawking names, even through Einstein was so > stupid as to be vehemently against the most important idea of modern > science, just as he opposed Schrödinger's work in unified field theory which > was far ahead of its time. The same magazine admits that "success eluded" > Einstein in the field of explaining the contradictions between relativity > and quantum mechanics. Today, these contradictions are explained by the > unified field theory, but Einstein, who proves himself to be one of the > least intelligent of 20th century scientists, refused to believe in either > quantum theory or the unified field theory. > > To name Einstein as "The Person of the Century" is one of the most ludicrous > and absurd lies of all time, yet it has been successfully pulled off by > Isaacson, Golden, Stein, Rudenstine, and Rosenblatt and the Jewish owners of > Time magazine. If the Jews at Time wanted to give the title to an inventor > or scientist, then the most obvious choice would have been men like Hilbert, > Planck, or Heisenberg. If they wanted to give it to the scientist who most > fundamentally changed the landscape of 20th century science, then the > obvious choice would be William Shockley. This Nobel prize winning scientist > invented the transistor, which is the basis of all modern electronic devices > and computers, everything from modern cars and telephones, VCRs and watches, > to the amazing computers which have allowed incomprehensible advances in all > fields of science. Without the transistor, all forms of science today would > be basically in the same place that they were in the late 1940s. > > However, the Jews cannot allow the due credit to go to William Shockley > because he spent the majority of his scientific career demonstrating the > genetic and mental inferiority of non-whites and arguing for their > sterilization. His scientific, genetic views led the Jews to financially > destroy Shockley who founded the first company in the Silicon Valley, his > hometown, to develop computer chips. The Jews hired away his entire staff > and used them to start Fairchild semiconductor, the company that today is > known as Intel. > > No the Jews could not let any of the truly great geniuses of our time be > recognized, not the anti-Semite Henry Ford, not the great German scientists > who helped the National Socialists in Germany, not Charles Lindbergh, who > was sympathetic to National Socialist causes, and certainly not William > Shockley, one of the most brilliant physicists and geneticists of our time. > Instead, the Jews propped up the Zionist, Communist Albert Einstein who > hated everything white. > > After World War II, Einstein demonstrated his hatred of the White Race and > of the Germans in particular in the following statements. He was asked what > he thought about Germany and about re-educating the Germans after the war > and said, > > "The nation has been on the decline mentally and morally since 1870...Behind > the Nazi party stands the German people, who elected Hitler after he had in > his book and in his speeches made his shameful intentions clear beyond the > possibility of misunderstanding. ... The Germans can be killed or > constrained after the war, but they cannot be re-educated to a democratic > way of thinking and acting..." > > Einstein here is advocating the murder of Germans, because he feels that > this is the only way that they can be kept in check. He is right about one > thing, the Germans did knowingly support the cause of National Socialism, > but what Einstein is attacking is Christianity, because it was Christianity > that led the German people to overwhelmingly support National Socialism. It > was the German Christian Faith Movement and the Christian Social Party of > men like Karl Lueger that led the German people to their understanding of > Jews. The Jew Daniel Goldhagen has recently shown the Christian basis of > National Socialism in his book, Hitler's Willing Executioners: Ordinary > Germans and the Holocaust, and the book Why The Jews? by Prager and > Telushkin similarly proves the Christian origins of what the Jews call > 'anti-Semitism.' Einstein understood this and Einstein, like all Jews, hated > Christianity. So what Einstein was really advocating was the killing and > constraining of all true Christians, not just German Christians. This is the > true purpose and intent of Zionism and the demagogue Einstein was merely a > tool of World Zionism and Jewry towards this end. > > Zionistic Jews understand that true, primitive Christianity is the mortal > enemy of mongrel Judaism. This is why the Jews, like Einstein, hated Nazi > Germany so much, for National Socialist Germany advocated primitive, > positive Christianity in the 24th point of its Party Platform. > > For more information, contact: > > CSCS, P.O. Box 188, Kodak, TN 37764 > > www.christianseparatist.org > > From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:39 EDT 2007 Article: 1144014 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.politics.usa:814128 alt.politics.usa.constitution:328569 alt.politics.usa.republican:2659745 alt.politics.democrats:779758 alt.revisionism:1144014 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!207.217.77.43.MISMATCH!elnk-pas-nf1!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:05:45 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 18:05:42 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa,alt.politics.usa.constitution,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.politics.democrats,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: The Federal Reserve References: <0O2dnS9QyP-ZqpbYnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> <1158365377.861059.264080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1158386860.981041.170650@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1158471612.602577.213990@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1158530248.410564.284090@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <12grn94crk0avf8@news.supernews.com> <1158541145.511656.59160@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1158541145.511656.59160@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 115 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-fdM6XEAWEwAH6xkbyeT7ayXzEDEFQ055GqBrUe8KkPeGyrxkWw+pTj+URZYHs2SugcMmJQc3jm920Gn!qYHsfDmfPbU8tAaDGDprKHrpTNAMhDn6fFmx9KFbQvniIIYVBUCh6DGKW0icvbcnmmvfoB7gtBq/!xsywyN9H X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Joe Bruno wrote: > Patrick Keenan wrote: >> "Protagonist" wrote in message >> news:hfmdnUTL8oWMVJDYnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>> Joe Bruno wrote: >>>> Protagonist wrote: >>>>> Parmenides wrote: >>>>>> Joe Bruno wrote: >>>>>>> Ben C'ramer wrote: >>>>>>>> "Joe Bruno" wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:1158386860.981041.170650@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>> Ben C'ramer wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "Joe Bruno" wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:1158365377.861059.264080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>>>> Parmenides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5934921769808130035 >>>>>>>>>>> I had a double major when I graduated Univ of Illinois: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. Accounting >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Economics/Finance >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The Federal Reserve's primary function is to control the size of >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> money supply in the USA. There are two reasons why this is >>>>>>>>>>> desirable, >>>>>>>>>>> both of which challenge each other: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1)If the money supply is too large, we get inflation >>>>>>>>>> With eventual recession and depression. Better get ready for it >>>>>>>>>> joey. The >>>>>>>>>> dopey cunts recently printed another two trillion dollars worth of >>>>>>>>>> banknotes. >>>>>>>>> The Fed doesn't print money-the mint does that. >>>>>>>> And just where did I say the Fed printed the money, dopey. The fact >>>>>>>> remains, >>>>>>>> someone has just printed 3 trillion dollars worth of new banknotes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can you say recession? >>>>>>> A recession is a business slowdown. It has nothing to do with printing >>>>>>> money, you ignoramus. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The American economy, like most freemarket economies, is somewhat >>>>>>> cyclical, with occasional recessions and booms. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There were several recessions in the 20th Century and numerous ones in >>>>>>> the 19th century. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Excessive money printing can cause inflation, but not recession. >>>>>>> In addition, the Federal Reserve's concept of "money" includes more >>>>>>> than just dollar bills-it also includes bank deposits on which checks >>>>>>> are written with no actual dollar bills changing hands. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Most banks in the Federal Reserve System maintain only about 25% of >>>>>>> their accounts in actual cash. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Apparently, you are too dumb to know that. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Who owns the Federal Reserve? >>>>> >>Who actually owns the Federal Reserve Central Banks? The ownership of >>>>> the 12 Central banks, a very well kept secret, has been revealed: >>>>> >>>>> Rothschild Bank of London >>>>> Warburg Bank of Hamburg >>>>> Rothschild Bank of Berlin >>>>> Lehman Brothers of New York >>>>> Lazard Brothers of Paris >>>>> Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York >>>>> Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy >>>>> Goldman, Sachs of New York >>>>> Warburg Bank of Amsterdam >>>>> Chase Manhattan Bank of New York >>>>> (Reference 14, P. 13, Reference 12, P. 152) >>>>> >>>>> These bankers are connected to London Banking Houses which ultimately >>>>> control the FED. When England lost the Revolutionary War with America >>>>> (our forefathers were fighting their own government), they planned to >>>>> control us by controlling our banking system, the printing of our money, >>>>> and our debt (Reference 4, 22).<< >>>>> http://www.worldnewsstand.net/today/articles/fedprivatelyowned.htm >>>>> >>>>> Looks like, Jews to me! >>>>> JS >>>> >>>> Stock ownership is a separate matter from regulation. The Federal >>>> Reserve is a regulating entity created by Congress. Even private >>>> industry, no matter who owns it, must obey the laws and regulations >>>> made by Congress and the administrative agencies it creates. >>>> Apparently, you're too stupid to see the difference. Ownership only >>>> gives you the right to share in the profits. It does not give you the >>>> right to break the law. >>>> >>>> http://www.federalreserve.gov/general.htm >>>> >>> Congress is owned by privet industry. I've seen Allan G testifying in >>> front of congress, all congressman are chicken scared of him! >>> Keep reading the laws, moron! >>> JS >> Shouldn't you be claiming that Congress and the bankers are owned by >> shape-shifting reptilian aliens? >> >> -pk > > > > He doesn't hate reptilian aliens. He only hates Jews. The funny part is > that Congress controls the Federal Reserve and can terminate Alan > Greenspan any time they want to. > Nice try! Alan G cuts your balls off any time! He's a Jew also! JS From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:40 EDT 2007 Article: 1144080 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.revisionism:1144080 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!newsfeed.news2me.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!216.196.98.140.MISMATCH!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 23:47:37 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:47:33 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Einstein wife, Mileva's grave! WOW! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-PlKMa0QCKLYTIgYiH+WfbbRoxmmYD82+YjuQbPctashCsCqL5MSJ9cmcRdTw8RVMVqfXkpWiQQmPRMR!vrzvAeZKgPVWILk/OzUEHB/Zk8ZDYcjN1dkrHH3ID7Ex85bOuIMx+N/tUUMc6QTSaf2zogWBvf+Q!YTCveoDK X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Look it Einsteins, Da famous scientist wife grave! Einstein was married 16 years to her, had 3 children together! Tesla society collecting money for her grave, because the headstone was removed due to lack of money. She was not a Jew, so no one cares about her. Not even her famous husbands foundation. http://www.teslasociety.com/pictures/mil4.JPG Above: Mileva Maric Einstein's grave site in Northeim Friedhof Cemetery in Zurich, Switzerland. The grave site is covered with grass, the gravestone was removed by the cemetery because of non-payment of the cemetery fees. Only a basket of flowers is a reminder of her grave site. >>According to Evan Harris Walker, a physicist, the basic ideas for relativity came from Mileva. Biographer Abram Joffe claims to have seen an original manuscript for the theory of relativity which was signed, "Einstein-Maric".<< From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:40 EDT 2007 Article: 1144430 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.revisionism:1144430 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-12!supernews.com!green.octanews.net!news-out.octanews.net!news.glorb.com!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:20:11 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:20:07 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Einstein fraud References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <2M-dndZ-korGOI3YnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com> Lines: 42 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-IbBUP4fG6SxUKnKrlNKDXHchITAbC3Id01cISMSOEmuhaAV51+7AA9w+SN9Nsc7CH5dc6sXtILV0QmD!f5X+1W1EEtYLjGirtVeajfSNXNjrMU8dpwRRyCKSOJwpJwb1An8sftS0ZGGkyxAoZoFzmGekyny9!p7eFEY9x X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Ron Jacobson wrote: > In article , > Protagonist wrote: > >> What is absolutely indisputable is that the formula was published, >> not once but twice, in the Italian physics literature. > > No, it wasn't. De-Pretto's "formula" is the Newtonian > expression for kinetic energy. > > http://www.protsv.fi/lfs/verkko/Pollesello/sld011.htm > > As we can see, it's wrong. The "De Pretto formula" states > that one gram of matter is equivalent to 10,974,000,000,000 > calories. It's the same formula what Einstein published, E=m*c^2, idiot! > > But -- that's incorrect. According to Einstein's E=m*c^2, > one gram of matter is equivalent to 900*10^18 ergs, which is > 21,496,130,696,475 calories (see e.g. > http://www.hans-hass.de/Englisch/Energon/4_6_Development.html). > > So, the Italian guy is wrong by a factor of about two. As > far as I can see, he simply computes the kinetic energy (from > good old Newtonian mechanics), of a gram of matter moving > in the speed of light. This is absolutely trivial, and of > course different from Einstein's result. Also, it's basically > incorrect, since matter cannot move in the speed of light. > > RJ. It's the same formula what Einstein published, E=m*c^2, idiot! Question here is how Jew Einstein came up with this formula? Was his wife a collebarator, as some one seen the original documants on Soviet microfilm, with his wife name there. Did he stole it the idea from some one else? >Throughout all of the famous papers on 1905, Einstein gives no sources or citations. The only credit given to anyone is a brief mention of his friend Michele Besso. Why the lack of citation of any source material?< JS From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:40 EDT 2007 Article: 1144431 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.revisionism:1144431 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!newsfeed.news2me.com!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:21:31 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:21:27 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Einstein fraud References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 48 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-nLZd5Cd5zqHP7m9s0MTHasxf4H2vvWtRHInzaPSeiX3zJNvUTs0jBCAxr21zJ+LEg1MJd5VGHuz2Vwu!pDePfpqdoqRIN/hofSAP1ppzDn6FEigZ//PQPy7ATILhduA1ZXN7jw4UIan6oy/7H3JFEK1WJVOR!6vs1r9Y6 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Ron Jacobson wrote: > In article , > Protagonist wrote: > >> What is absolutely indisputable is that the formula was published, >> not once but twice, in the Italian physics literature. > > No, it wasn't. De-Pretto's "formula" is the Newtonian > expression for kinetic energy. > > http://www.protsv.fi/lfs/verkko/Pollesello/sld011.htm > > As we can see, it's wrong. The "De Pretto formula" states > that one gram of matter is equivalent to 10,974,000,000,000 > calories. > > But -- that's incorrect. According to Einstein's E=m*c^2, > one gram of matter is equivalent to 900*10^18 ergs, which is > 21,496,130,696,475 calories (see e.g. > http://www.hans-hass.de/Englisch/Energon/4_6_Development.html). > > So, the Italian guy is wrong by a factor of about two. As > far as I can see, he simply computes the kinetic energy (from > good old Newtonian mechanics), of a gram of matter moving > in the speed of light. This is absolutely trivial, and of > course different from Einstein's result. Also, it's basically > incorrect, since matter cannot move in the speed of light. > > RJ. Look it Einsteins, Da famous scientist wife grave! Einstein was married 16 years to her, had 3 children together! Tesla society collecting money for her grave, because the headstone was removed due to lack of money. She was not a Jew, so no one cares about her. Not even her famous husbands foundation. http://www.teslasociety.com/pictures/mil4.JPG Above: Mileva Maric Einstein's grave site in Northeim Friedhof Cemetery in Zurich, Switzerland. The grave site is covered with grass, the gravestone was removed by the cemetery because of non-payment of the cemetery fees. Only a basket of flowers is a reminder of her grave site. >>According to Evan Harris Walker, a physicist, the basic ideas for relativity came from Mileva. Biographer Abram Joffe claims to have seen an original manuscript for the theory of relativity which was signed, "Einstein-Maric".<< From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:41 EDT 2007 Article: 1144539 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.revisionism:1144539 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-12!supernews.com!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 03:50:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 01:50:21 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Einstein fraud References: <2M-dndZ-korGOI3YnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: Lines: 61 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-SkH9TjCR9fNPAqp5EC8M3y8V+oWaWmemz6ozOIeQdYIPK8XgDBhsItLsaEfUVHFg/Zd+2EebykFU+r3!v58ZttO09Tx7IsZn18+ZdvK2pKldAwfS8DUvwdMPR19p5ymvXtsRPpXO4cpZi8AKh+kBPEEqF6Zd!lK5yhNnY X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Ron Jacobson wrote: > In article <2M-dndZ-korGOI3YnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com>, > Protagonist wrote: > >> Ron Jacobson wrote: > >>> No, it wasn't. De-Pretto's "formula" is the Newtonian >>> expression for kinetic energy. >>> >>> http://www.protsv.fi/lfs/verkko/Pollesello/sld011.htm >>> >>> As we can see, it's wrong. The "De Pretto formula" states >>> that one gram of matter is equivalent to 10,974,000,000,000 >>> calories. > >> It's the same formula what Einstein published, E=m*c^2, idiot! > > No, infestation, it's not. Please read the paragraph below. > >>> But -- that's incorrect. According to Einstein's E=m*c^2, >>> one gram of matter is equivalent to 900*10^18 ergs, which is >>> 21,496,130,696,475 calories (see e.g. >>> http://www.hans-hass.de/Englisch/Energon/4_6_Development.html). Don't see it on the given page! >>> >>> So, the Italian guy is wrong by a factor of about two. As >>> far as I can see, he simply computes the kinetic energy (from >>> good old Newtonian mechanics), of a gram of matter moving >>> in the speed of light. Itelian gives the same formula and it was published, 2 years before, idiot! E=D mc2 existed before Einstein’s derivation in Sep. 1905. Isaac Newton, S. Tolver Preston, Poincaré , De Pretto and F. Hasenöhrl are the philosophers and physicists who have given idea of E =D mc2. Einstein derived existing E =D mc2 starting with the result of relativistic variation of light energy, but finally obtained L =D mc2 under applying classical conditions (v< >> course different from Einstein's result. Also, it's basically >>> incorrect, since matter cannot move in the speed of light. No? But can move close to the speed of light! JS > > RJ. From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:41 EDT 2007 Article: 1144731 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.revisionism:1144731 alt.terrorism.world-trade-center:203527 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 19:25:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:25:10 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.terrorism.world-trade-center Subject: Re: 'Nice, Sweet Lady,' 83, Deported for holocaust lies.. References: <7068627.x3mVLYa5f5@0ICU812> In-Reply-To: <7068627.x3mVLYa5f5@0ICU812> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: Lines: 168 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-lDbdIzcZynQzyW4nITcUalB9VD0KKFYjF8Jy0Pc/2BsxmXB1sfZKj1CkaRCmMvvKaNw8RWVve4BZqTr!a/zIgAR4E+YOTEsI6CK0wMhx7YpM/TmTLQ43aaUNyXrCIXn98a5enB6CDRMQejTTUGoFfrsmVAZk!E2F0gA4T X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 127.0.0.1 wrote: > Notice in the article they claim that: > =============== > Ravensbruck, it was a slave labor prison for women, and during the year she > worked there with a trained attack dog more than 10,000 women died Some > succumbed to starvation and disease. Others were gassed. > =============== > > Gassed at Ravensbruck? Even Jews admit that their were no gas chambers at > Ravensbruck. And the holocaust industry wonders why people question this > Jewish propaganda. Why do these lies persist? > > 'Nice, Sweet Lady,' 83, Deported for Nazi Past > The former SS guard kept her secret buried, even from her Jewish husband. > Now exposed, the Bay Area widow, 83, is back in Germany. > By Richard A. Serrano, Times Staff Writer > September 20, 2006 > > > WASHINGTON — She lived alone in a tiny, top-floor apartment in one of the > tougher sections of San Francisco. At 83, she was short and a bit stout. > Diabetes took the sight in one of her eyes; arthritis left her leaning > heavily on a cane. For long trips, she took a taxi. > > Her husband had died. He was the love of her long life, a short, dapper man > who had worked as a bartender and waiter at some of the city's larger > hotels and was active in Jewish activities. They buried him in a Jewish > cemetery outside the city. > > He had been gone just a short while when two officials from the Justice > Department in Washington knocked on her door. They confronted her with a > terrible secret that all these years she had managed to keep from him. > > In Germany during World War II, a much younger Elfriede Lina Rinkel, then > single, a girl with blue eyes and striking red hair, had worked as an SS > guard at one of the Nazi regime's infamous concentration camps. Called > Ravensbruck, it was a slave labor prison for women, and during the year she > worked there with a trained attack dog more than 10,000 women died. > > Some succumbed to starvation and disease. Others were gassed. More died > after cruel medical experiments. Some perished from sheer exhaustion. > > On Tuesday, the Justice Department announced that the woman with the > pleasant smile and the German accent had been deported to Germany. She > admitted that she had lied on her U.S. visa application. > > Her lawyer, Alison Dixon, said she never told Fred, her husband. Not during > their romance after the war, on their wedding night in Germany, or their > voyage to a new life in America. Always, she kept quiet. > > "He did not know," the lawyer said, "because all these years she was totally > embarrassed." > > Washington officials, however, said she coldly offered no expression of > remorse about her past and did not fight the deportation. > > The government caught up with a woman in the dusk of her life who expected > perhaps soon to quietly join her husband in the Eternal Home Cemetery in > Colma, south of the city. The double gravestone was already there, with the > Star of David above their names. > > Instead, she will be remembered as the only woman to be caught and deported > in more than 100 completed cases of Nazi persecutors who lied their way > into the United States. Matching Ravensbruck guard rosters with U.S. > immigration documents — about 70,000 names have been studied since the > Office of Special Investigations opened in 1979 — they hit on Elfriede > Huth, her maiden name. > > She had been born in 1922 in Leipzig, Germany. She came to the work camp in > 1944 and left a year later as the war ended, the site abandoned by fleeing > Nazis. She married Fred William Rinkel, a German Jewish refugee from the > war. In 1959, not yet 40, she applied for a U.S. visa but failed to include > on the form her time at Ravensbruck. > > Eventually, the Justice Department traced her to the five-story apartment > building in lower Nob Hill near the Tenderloin. The building today is > rundown, covered with graffiti and largely home to recent immigrants from > Mexico. > > Agency Director Eli M. Rosenbaum said that despite her bid to remain > anonymous, her past will no longer be hidden. Though he agreed that she > appeared pleasant and kind, old and tired, he said, "her presence in the > United States nevertheless was an affront to surviving Holocaust victims > who have made new homes in this country." > > Rosenbaum was one of the two Washington officials who knocked on her door > after her husband died. She admitted being assigned to the camp, explaining > that she had a less desirable job as a factory worker and volunteered to be > a dog handler at the camp for better wages. > > But she insisted she never used her dog as a weapon against the prisoners, > never forced them into marches every morning to work or to die. She said > she never joined the Nazi Party, just did its bidding. > > And she said she never applied for U.S. citizenship because she feared U.S. > immigration authorities would learn of her time at Ravensbruck. > > And oddly, Rosenbaum said, there were no tears from the woman sitting in > front of him inside the little apartment. "No statement of remorse was > volunteered to me," he said. > > Dixon, her San Francisco lawyer, explained that it was all just too long > ago. She said her client had tried to remake her life and never thought she > would be tripped up so late in her years. > > "She was trying to atone for actions in the past," said Dixon. "She married > a Jewish man, and she gave to Jewish charities. > > "And she always believed there was a certain coercion involved in what she > did at the camp. She insisted that she had zero contact with the actual > prisoners, that she just walked the camp perimeter." > > Knowing her fate, six months ago she began preparing to leave the United > States even as she kept asking Dixon if she could stay. "Do I really have > to leave?" she would say. "Can I come back for a visit?" > > She also quietly set about putting her affairs in order. One task was to > return once more to the mortuary, and to inform the staff that she would > soon be "leaving the area." She wanted to sell her burial plot next to her > husband. > > "So we took it back," said Gene Kaufman, director of the Sinai Memorial > Chapel. "She was just such a pleasant-looking lady and very small. Such a > nice, sweet lady who seemed to have a very loving relationship with her > husband." > > Sometimes, Kaufman said, he would bump into the childless couple at Jewish > events. Everyone seemed to know, though, that she was not Jewish, and had > no other religious faith. The distinction seemed to never rise as a problem > between the couple. > > Yet, "sometimes it did seem like their life together was from someplace > else," recalled Kathryn Allen-Katz, who also chatted with her at the > funeral chapel. "Like they didn't fit in here, didn't belong. They lived in > their own little island in a not-too-good part of town and they kept to > themselves." > > At the apartment building on Bush Street, Gunvant Shah, who met the Rinkels > in 1976, described a couple that sang German songs late at night, danced > together and sometimes fought loudly, prompting complaints from neighbors. > > They lived "a modest life," Shah said, with no car, but often strolled > together in the evenings, dressed elegantly. "Mr. Rinkel would hold her by > the arm. They would walk together, proud and joyful." > > Perhaps, he added, the closeness the couple shared was her private attempt > at redemption. "Maybe she felt remorse," Shah said. > > She was given until Sept. 30 to leave the United States. > > She left Sept. 1. Some distant relative took her in, and she dutifully > reported to the U.S. Consulate office in Frankfurt that she was back home. > > Eighty-three is a hard time to make one's life over, and Dixon said that she > could still face charges in Germany for her wartime duty at the > concentration camp. > > But whatever happens, she will probably die in the land of her birth. > > Alive, she is legally barred from reentering the United States. > > In death alone could she be > returned.http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_history&Number=294944057#Post294944057 > > Was she Jewish, since her husband was a Jew? JS From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:42 EDT 2007 Article: 1144762 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.revisionism:1144762 alt.terrorism.world-trade-center:203538 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!204.127.161.157.MISMATCH!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!199.218.7.141!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 23:43:08 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:43:07 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.terrorism.world-trade-center Subject: Re: 'Nice, Sweet Lady,' 83, Deported for holocaust lies.. References: <7068627.x3mVLYa5f5@0ICU812> <12h3ft0kjcujvea@news.supernews.com> In-Reply-To: <12h3ft0kjcujvea@news.supernews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 45 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-Wf9sOSJW6JUcWGzU11NjES6iXgErX74l7TiFVL9KNcrmny7vyXGaoJsVoWEqAe/Qsl36NwTw7z0r22K!IFE8PPYb4D0/tuXimInJUyc76c/oqABJmtkjpbPxvHVD4pS5ymVSN2Rr4KCFkBOUvZpN52UF9DdH!qnZjE7T1 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Patrick Keenan wrote: > "127.0.0.1" <127.0.0.1@127.0.0.1> wrote in message > news:7068627.x3mVLYa5f5@0ICU812... >> Notice in the article they claim that: >> =============== >> Ravensbruck, it was a slave labor prison for women, and during the year > she >> worked there with a trained attack dog more than 10,000 women died Some >> succumbed to starvation and disease. Others were gassed. >> =============== >> >> Gassed at Ravensbruck? Even Jews admit that their were no gas chambers at >> Ravensbruck. > > Nor were physical structures needed. The gassings were done nearby, in > trucks, or at Auschwitz. You have any proof? I guess not! Jewish fantasies! JS > > Garages aren't gas chambers, Tommy, but people regularly die from gassing in > them regularly. > > >> And the holocaust industry wonders why people question this >> Jewish propaganda. Why do these lies persist? >> >> 'Nice, Sweet Lady,' 83, Deported for Nazi Past >> The former SS guard kept her secret buried, even from her Jewish husband. >> Now exposed, the Bay Area widow, 83, is back in Germany. >> By Richard A. Serrano, Times Staff Writer >> September 20, 2006 > > > Another person who lied to get into the USA. Her role as an SS camp guard > explicitly disqualified her from entry, and she knew her lies would result > in expulsion when discovered. > > Are you saying that the USA should not enforce its immigration laws, Tommy? > > -pk > > From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:42 EDT 2007 Article: 1145001 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.revisionism:1145001 alt.terrorism.world-trade-center:203732 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!204.127.161.157.MISMATCH!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!24.30.200.11!news-east.rr.com!news.rr.com!newscon02.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.net!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:25:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:25:12 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.terrorism.world-trade-center Subject: Re: 'Nice, Sweet Lady,' 83, Deported for holocaust lies.. References: <7068627.x3mVLYa5f5@0ICU812> <4neuhtFa11aiU1@individual.net> In-Reply-To: <4neuhtFa11aiU1@individual.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 14 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-ZEZw0bg2y/N9N0d7pQb1aJqmFHDMEbluVimXiyGri9kT2quxTGOYjdkbxDzZVeuw3reVzuyZqgoQfyt!U+qPGbiEDoGbxvILpqa7Kq69MotOl5YJk6sLGfq7Mu6bBP4wvsS2Nj4JJRpazBUxTT17PiqM5FEn!EdXM5qf5 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Don Ocean wrote: > > Just some OB in the State department Kissing AIPACS ass for campaign > money. The SOB that knocked on her door was a damned Jew to..the > bastards have infiltrate our government much like they did Germany. > God forbid that we have to revert to a Holocaust to save America from > the corrupt bastards. But what must be ..must be! ;-( The WTC would not > have been struck except for our support of the Jews that are Murdering > their way through the ME. Zionist Israel used cluster bombs in Lebanon, it's illegal according to Geneva conventions. Israel gets away with murder, because USIsrael supporting them 100%! JS From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:42 EDT 2007 Article: 1145156 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.revisionism:1145156 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-12!supernews.com!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 02:38:01 -0500 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 00:38:01 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Einstein fraud References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-snhZwV9hoPGoBb/+W0EXVBbFPlt6cbiarAwkqci6Nx7Jh3uti5/GfG8rVTyQ+wnSjJCYLZakgnXaNA0!HBkdhyROmXMjMcBekz9JFpG03VIZCnzMLWzvyZ6ssRXAtwcXF5Ke3KfkfW8k7aBoMd2vEbJvTUOQ!t7oWHGIx X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Ron Jacobson wrote: > In article , > Ben C'ramer <[REMOVETHIS]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote: > > (snip) > > Ok doper, let's play. > > Calculate the energy equivalent to one gram of mass, > according to Einstein's formula, and compare it to > the result of De-Pretto's "equation" (which is just > the Newtonian expression for kinetic energy). > > Do the calculation, doper. > > This should be fun to watch. > > RJ. What's the difference between the two equation idioto? Both published E=m*c sqr, except the Italiano did it 2 years earlier, but Jew fuck received recognition! JS From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:42 EDT 2007 Article: 1145592 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us uk.politics.misc:1799917 alt.politics.british:1133712 aus.politics:1289779 can.politics:1380735 alt.revisionism:1145592 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-07!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!newsfeed.news2me.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!216.196.98.140.MISMATCH!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:06:54 -0500 Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 14:06:52 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: uk.politics.misc,alt.politics.england.misc,alt.politics.british,aus.politics,can.politics,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: My Blog Says That Esoteric Nazi UFO's Used Death Rays From The Sky To Bring Down The WTC! References: <2XcRg.12559$5R2.11236@pd7urf3no> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-d3oJ7SOG2mYNf/RjK0Gz5O1cKyjA7fvGhgHWQu99OaHhpOUAc9n6ka9hE9abRys/D3bJlsUv2S81KKc!lkVCKvtGdNHdt9BHq5KSfIqtC5yoHPW/x4Hz26YB2Ss89rR6zy/UxsVYPfGH1gwC5XDn7nAVmMXP!3s/nHNVP X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Radly Wiebe wrote: > "Kurt Knoll" wrote in message > news:CIdRg.14543$1T2.14224@pd7urf2no... >> I see you are looking more like mahatma Gandhi > > What a pity. Thousands of Canadians died in WW2 fighting Kraut hatemongers > like you, Problem, no one asked the fucking Canadians to come to Europe to die. They could've just stay home and smell the flowers! Right? White Niger Canadian! JS only to see you become a vile, disgusting Nazi immigrant piece of > filth living in our midst. > > There's something seriously wrong with Canada's immigration laws when Hitler > apologist scum like you are allowed to live here. > > > From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:43 EDT 2007 Article: 1145798 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us uk.politics.misc:1800161 alt.politics.british:1133936 aus.politics:1290047 can.politics:1381246 alt.revisionism:1145798 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 12:51:34 -0500 Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 10:51:32 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: uk.politics.misc,alt.politics.england.misc,alt.politics.british,aus.politics,can.politics,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: My Blog Says That Esoteric Nazi UFO's Used Death Rays From The Sky To Bring Down The WTC! References: <2XcRg.12559$5R2.11236@pd7urf3no> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 32 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-IsbbVEFgSikIdNJjw0PHkXUXL0qtFdfiIiQFO3jZOLPTXKWFUGmYOYk2YvvCIFYsqMssu0q2VX+zDMo!syXMBH3G/EjLvQfbR/2cYTITHhooVdL96jx9cAkPHzdSfQt0QruX2+VE1tbdyWvrtdwSSLFolSYI!Gc0m8Zb/ X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Teddy wrote: > "Protagonist" wrote in message > news:rImdnSSgO51zPIjYnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> Radly Wiebe wrote: >>> "Kurt Knoll" wrote in message >>> news:CIdRg.14543$1T2.14224@pd7urf2no... >>>> I see you are looking more like mahatma Gandhi >>> What a pity. Thousands of Canadians died in WW2 fighting Kraut >>> hatemongers like you, >> Problem, no one asked the fucking Canadians to come to Europe to die. >> They could've just stay home and smell the flowers! > > Actually the Canadians were asked. Right! Just like the Americans were asked to come to Iraq to spread democracy, you stupid lying Jew! JS Something that a cocksucking American > Nazi loving faggot like you doesn't understand because like all of your > kind, you only possess enough braincells to eat, breathe and shit. That's > why Americans are the niggers of the world. Kevin Alfred Strom, William > Pierce and George Lincoln Rockwell are all self-loathing Jews, and renowned > pedophiles. > > Your hero Hitler liked to have his niece squat over his face and shit on > him. Nazis are perverts. Which is why they will one day be exterminated. > > > > From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:43 EDT 2007 Article: 1146505 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.revisionism:1146505 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:21:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:21:45 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Photographs: SS staff in Belsen camp References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <4audnYCfnOMEiIbYnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@comcast.com> Lines: 10 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-M5j83Y6KA9VNo4gxhIZym0UPcDQyhW6ZlVSB5E42+nztMv8lxOndm2DRzO0nvK1koSQ7kjXrL90nIMF!3Nfk8+sAbtqchBVHyWZ/9StSr6SM8Skq8JcdzUPYjMEQTri6STcZaV/7f7YlKBAVLPIOzj0ywLis!IPuRbVZs X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Ron Jacobson wrote: > http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/camps/belsen/ss-women.shtml > http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/camps/belsen/bormann.shtml > http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/camps/belsen/kramer.shtml > > RJ. Can't you come up with some thing new, retard? Boring! JS From szaki10@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 14:54:43 EDT 2007 Article: 1146527 of alt.revisionism Xref: sn-us alt.revisionism:1146527 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-07!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!newsfeed.news2me.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!216.196.98.140.MISMATCH!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:51:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:51:12 -0700 From: Protagonist User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Photographs: SS staff in Belsen camp References: <4audnYCfnOMEiIbYnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@comcast.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM852; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 49 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.40.31 X-Trace: sv3-4Ot53T6xMs/jnYmuSCb7WuredtmkvWyi8ehUMdU+JdvzkHyE2FxuUS7Bzb+qlAcpeInkYMjoEo0kT3t!uSp/Y15DJ6Q4WOVdx+pdCeoDA+GOGiJTftuomVTNzLECOSZjMNYtd6jaAcRyh4cSCB6Qo9H3Zdfd!EOjPC2jS X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Kurt Knoll wrote: > Sounds interesting they do not even have a ss uniform. Looks more the are > from the arbeits Dienst. > > Kurt Knoll > > "Protagonist" wrote in message > news:4audnYCfnOMEiIbYnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@comcast.com... >> Ron Jacobson wrote: >>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/camps/belsen/ss-women.shtml >>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/camps/belsen/bormann.shtml >>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/camps/belsen/kramer.shtml >>> >>> RJ. >> Can't you come up with some thing new, retard? >> Boring! >> JS > > World is very quiet about the Russian gulags. No one builds museums for those who died there! JS http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2005/02/jewish-concentration-camp-guards.html Wednesday, February 16, 2005 JEWISH CONCENTRATION CAMP GUARDS? Winston Churchill: "In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed, the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses. "The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people. "...The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with villainies which are now being perpetrated...Needless to say, the most intense passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian people." Researcher Wayne McGuire of Harvard University writes: "50% of the communist terrorist vanguard in the south and west of Russia was comprised of Jews." http://www.russians.org/communist.html
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