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Ron Jacobson wrote:
> http://www.citizen.org/cmep/images/lots%20of%20dead%20pigs.JPG
> 
Haha! That's funny!!!! (o:
JS


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I don't think woman needs to be forced into prostitution, most are 
naturally born prostitute.
Just let them smell the money! There are plenty in Hollywood!
Well, maybe some, the lesbian, nun, idealistic types, should join the 
convent.

JS


Goofy Internet things wrote:
> Like Nazis, Germany Forcing Unemployed Women into Legalized Prostitution
> 
> http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/jan/05013106.html
> 
> BERLIN, January 31, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - News agencies around the
> world are carrying the story of a young German woman, a qualified
> information technologist, who has been told that she faces suspension of
> her government relief benefits if she refuses to take a ‘job’ as a
> prostitute in a Berlin brothel.
> 
> The unemployed woman, who has not been named, had indicated her
> willingness to take jobs outside her field and has worked in a café.
> Britain’s Daily Telegraph reported that the woman, who has not been
> named, received a phone call offering her an interview for a job. She
> did not realize the ‘job’ was prostitution in a brothel until she
> telephoned. After the woman refused, she was told by the job centre that
> her benefits would be cut off if she did not go into prostitution.
> 
> Germany’s unemployment rate has reached the highest levels since
> reunification in 1990 and its welfare laws have recently been reformed.
> The new welfare regulations and the legalization of prostitution have
> combined to create a situation where women can be ‘sold’ by the state
> into sexual slavery.
> 
> German law no longer considers prostitution, or as it is called, the
> ‘sex trade,’ to be immoral or inherently undesirable. Legalised German
> brothels are starting to avail themselves of national listings of
> unemployed women to ‘hire’ to perform sexual services. Under German law,
> any woman under 55 who has been out of work for more than a year can be
> forced to take an available job or lose her unemployment benefit.
> 
> “There is now nothing in the law to stop women from being sent into the
> sex industry," Merchthild Garweg, a lawyer from Hamburg who specialises
> in such cases, said. He added, “The new regulations say that working in
> the sex industry is not immoral any more, and so jobs cannot be turned
> down without a risk to benefits.”
> 
> Why Hitler made prostitution legal?
> Because the warped atheist ideology of the Nazis made Nazi men
> unattractive to women. Few women would want to snuggle up with angry men
> marching around trying to take over other countries. Women were
> especially turned off by the brutality and violence of the Nazi men.
> Hitler's answer was to simply force women into prostitution to serve the
> growing Nazi machine.
> 
> 
> 


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Heinrich wrote:
> Hundreds of Holocaust survivors flocked to Los Angeles' Jewish social 
> service agencies to get help as they rush to apply for a restitution program 
> offered by the Hungarian government.
> 
> The paperwork must be postmarked and on its way to Budapest by July 31.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The large turnout overwhelmed the legal service group Bet Tzedek, whose 
> officials hastily scheduled extra sessions to help with the complicated 
> paperwork. Officials there said they expected about 50 or so of the 
> approximately 10,000 Holocaust survivors in Los Angeles to sign up for the 
> sessions. Instead, five times as many have sought help.
> 
> 
> 
> lol
> 
> http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/regstate/articles/3284451.html
> 

Poor Jews, they survived the Holohoax, to be poor again in Malibu, LA!
They have to extort money from a poor country, Hungary, where the 
average monthly salary is $200 or less.
Which country is next, Albania or Ethiopia?
JS



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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>          in message : 
> 
>> This guy blows the holocaust out of the water using Jewish sources. You may
>> want to save these vids to your harddrive - I'm guessing the Yids will try
>> to bring this site down, Yeah it's that good.
>> http://zamphir.litek.ws/
>> Enjoy.
> 
> Ah yes -- the old "I don't like what Yankiel Wiernik says, or the way
> he says it, so he's a fraud.  Not only that, anyone that cites him is
> *also* a fraud."
> 
> One notes that this ... person ... doesn't even try to give an
> alternative explanation as to where all those people who were sent to
> these camps went, if they didn't die there.
> 
> Can *you*, idiot child?

Roger baby still playing the stupid, he has been told many times, never 
been 6 million Jews were ever killed, not even 1 million.
See, Auschwitz changed the official figures from 4 million to 1.1 
million for example. Boing!!!!
You fixate yourself on the the 6 million numbers and where all those 
people went??!!!
Well Roger, here we go again, Jews live happily ever after in Israel and 
all over the world on Holohoax money claimed over the 6 million unknown 
and laughing them self all the way to the bank.
JS


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Heinrich wrote:
> HANOVER, Germany - A Lutheran church will be converted into a synagogue with 
> a Jewish community center under a pending agreement between the church and 
> the Foundation for Liberal Judaism. The Jewish group announced its intention 
> Wednesday to acquire Gustav Adolf Church in Lower Saxony's capital city. The 
> announcement marks the second time this year that a Jewish congregation in 
> Germany has announced its intention to buy a Christian church.
> 
> In February the Jewish community in Bielefeld expressed its desire to buy 
> Paul Gerhardt Church there. The Hanover Jews want to use Gustaf Adolf Church 
> as a center for Jewish studies, culture, and "social dialogue," as well as a 
> headquarters for the Union of Progressive Jews in Germany.
> 
> With nearly 550 members, Hanover's community of liberal Jews is the largest 
> of the 21 Reformed Jewish congregations in Germany. Congregation chairperson 
> Ingrid Berg said the facilities previously used by the congregation were no 
> longer large enough to accommodate the influx of Jews from the states of the 
> former Soviet Union.
> 
> Twenty years ago Hanover had no Jewish community. Jewish immigrants from 
> Russia began to settle in the city in 1995 and their numbers are increasing.
> 
> Strapped for cash in a country where Christianity has been on the wane for 
> decades, the Protestant Church has shown itself willing to sell its 
> buildings to communities of outsiders who often express loathing for their 
> faith.
> 
> 
> The Lutheran congregation in Hanover wants ? 350,000 for the 35-year old 
> Gustav Adolf Church. After the sale, for which the church has already 
> reached a preliminary agreement with the Jews, the Lutherans want to rent 
> space in it for a kindergarten and a parsonage, says Pastor Sigrid 
> Lampe-Densky.
> 
> The Jews have applied to the Lower Saxony state government for a ?1 million 
> subsidy to turn the church into a synagogue, and Berg says they are still 
> awaiting a decision. In today's Germany, city and state governments usually 
> subsidize the building of new synagogues, forcing German taxpayers to 
> support congregations that hate them.
> 
> The transformation of Gustav Adolf Church into an organizational 
> headquarters for liberal Jews would strengthen the synagogue's ties to the 
> World Union for Progressive Judaism. International conferences could be held 
> there, increasing opportunities for Lower Saxony, according to Katarina 
> Seidler of the Central Council of Jews in Germany. Seidler did not explain 
> what she meant by "opportunities."
> 
> Hanover's church leaders, who hardly dare entertain an unfavorable opinion 
> of Jews no matter how much scorn the latter heap on their faith, say they 
> are pleased that their building "will retain a religious function." 
> 
> 

Looks like Jews taking over Germany again?
So far, most Germans I met, Jewish puppets, to say the least.
Jews throw dirt on them, they hide in the corner!
JS


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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be Protagonist wrote
>          in message : 
> 
>> Roger wrote:
> 
>>>> This guy blows the holocaust out of the water using Jewish sources. You may
>>>> want to save these vids to your harddrive - I'm guessing the Yids will try
>>>> to bring this site down, Yeah it's that good.
>>>> http://zamphir.litek.ws/
>>>> Enjoy.
> 
>>> Ah yes -- the old "I don't like what Yankiel Wiernik says, or the way
>>> he says it, so he's a fraud.  Not only that, anyone that cites him is
>>> *also* a fraud."
>>>
>>> One notes that this ... person ... doesn't even try to give an
>>> alternative explanation as to where all those people who were sent to
>>> these camps went, if they didn't die there.
>>>
>>> Can *you*, idiot child?
> 
>> Roger baby 
> 
> 
> 
> I've told you before, julius -- go somewhere else to troll for dates.
> 
>> still playing the stupid, he has been told many times, never 
>> been 6 million Jews were ever killed, not even 1 million.
> 
> Of course, you can never actually *prove* this idiocy.

That's what you and the Holohoax industry counting on, that no one can 
prove it otherwise, since they keep tab on all the records and evidences.
Revisionist proves all the lies and contradiction , what Jewish or 
tortured, black mailed German eyewitnesses fabricated.
See, Hoess testimony of 3 million death at Auschwitz,  while the 
official figure now days is 1.1 million.
> 
>> See, Auschwitz changed the official figures from 4 million to 1.1 
>> million for example. Boing!!!!
> 
> And as you know, no one out side of the USSR ever accepted the four
> million figure, so what's your point?

NO? How about Poland, Germany, US and the hole world.

> 
>> You fixate yourself on the the 6 million numbers and where all those 
>> people went??!!!
> 
> No, I merely point out that you cannot come up with an alternative
> which is both supported by the evidence and doesn't involve those
> people being killed.

Problem is, Holohoax industry can't come up with evidence, that's why 
all the contradiction and juggling of the number of death.
You had 60 years and still can't get your stories right.
We know more about the Pyramids or the Roman empire, than what happened 
60 years ago.

> 
>> Well Roger, here we go again, Jews live happily ever after in Israel and 
>> all over the world on Holohoax money claimed over the 6 million unknown 
>> and laughing them self all the way to the bank.
> 
> idiot julius doesn't seem to understand that reparations are paid on
> the basis of having *survived* the Holocaust, so if it were simply a
> matter of Jews trying to maximize reparations, he number of
> *survivors* and not the number of *victims* would be exaggerated.

$60 billion was payed to Israel and Jews by Germany as compensation, 
since 1950-s.
That's more than a hole GDP of a small country.
Still not enough, after 60 years, Jews still crying for blood money over 
the Holohoax, that never happened.
JS






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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be Protagonist wrote
>          in message : 
>   
>> Heinrich wrote:
>>> HANOVER, Germany - A Lutheran church will be converted into a synagogue with 
>>> a Jewish community center under a pending agreement between the church and 
>>> the Foundation for Liberal Judaism. The Jewish group announced its intention 
>>> Wednesday to acquire Gustav Adolf Church in Lower Saxony's capital city. The 
>>> announcement marks the second time this year that a Jewish congregation in 
>>> Germany has announced its intention to buy a Christian church.
>>>
>>> In February the Jewish community in Bielefeld expressed its desire to buy 
>>> Paul Gerhardt Church there. The Hanover Jews want to use Gustaf Adolf Church 
>>> as a center for Jewish studies, culture, and "social dialogue," as well as a 
>>> headquarters for the Union of Progressive Jews in Germany.
> 
>   
> 
>> Looks like Jews taking over Germany again?
> 
> You have a problem with the Free Market, in which someone with
> something to sell is allowed to sell it to someone interested in
> buying it, as long as there is no coercion?
> 
>> So far, most Germans I met, Jewish puppets, to say the least.
>> Jews throw dirt on them, they hide in the corner!
> 
> Why do you hate Germans so much?

I don't see Germans buying Jewish synagogues, are you!?
Seems, Jews are moving back and spreading all over Europe again.
Other day, seen Ricks Steve's Travel in Europe, about city Prague, CZ.
He spend half of the show talking about Jews living in the city and what 
happened during WW2. Like, every one wants to know that, when buying a 
travel video. He must be getting payed by the Holohoax industry.
Made me sick.
JS


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Ben Cramer wrote:
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>> news:4h9b88F1q2l8fU1@individual.net...
>>> Quote:
>>> ...Work was begun to cremate the dead. It turned out that bodies of women 
>>> burned more easily than those of men. Accordingly, the bodies of women 
>>> were used for kindling the fires. Since cremation was hard work, rivalry 
>>> set in between the labor details as to which of them would be able to 
>>> cremate the largest number of bodies. Bulletin boards were rigged up and 
>>> daily scores were recorded. Nevertheless, the results were very poor. The 
>>> corpses were soaked in gasoline. This entailed considerable expense and 
>>> the results were inadequate; the male corpses simply would not burn. 
>>> Whenever an airplane was sighted overhead, all work was stopped, the 
>>> corpses were covered with foliage as camouflage against aerial 
>>> observation Wink .
>>>
>>> It was a terrifying sight, the most gruesome ever beheld by human eyes. 
>>> When corpses of pregnant women were cremated, their bellies would burst 
>>> open. The fetus would be exposed and could be seen burning inside the 
>>> mother's womb. ... http://www.zchor.org/treblink/wiernik.htm
>>>
>>> From the same source.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Quote: ...He put a machine for exhuming the corpses into operation, an 
>>> excavator which could dig up 3,000 corpses at one time. A fire grate made 
>>> of railroad tracks was placed on concrete foundations 100 to 150 meters 
>>> in length. The workers piled the corpses on the grate and set them on 
>>> fire.
>>>
>>>  I am no longer a young man and have seen a great deal in my lifetime, 
>>> but not even Lucifer could possibly have created a hell worse than this. 
>>> Can you picture a grate of this length piled high with 3,000 corpses of 
>>> people who had been alive only a short time before? As you look at their 
>>> faces it seems as if at any moment these bodies might awaken from their 
>>> deep sleep. But at a given signal a giant torch is lit and it burns with 
>>> a huge flame. If you stood close enough, you could well imagine hearing 
>>> moans from the lips of the sleeping bodies, children sitting up and 
>>> crying for their mothers. You are overwhelmed by horror and pain, but you 
>>> stand there just the same without saying anything. The gangsters are 
>>> standing near the ashes, shaking with satanic laughter. Their faces 
>>> radiate a truly satanic satisfaction. They toasted the scene with brandy 
>>> and with the choicest liqueurs, ate, caroused and had a great time 
>>> warming themselves by the fire.
>>>
>>>  Thus the Jews were of some use to them even after they had died. Though 
>>> the winter weather was bitter cold, the pyres gave off heat like an oven. 
>>> This heat came from the burning bodies of Jews. The hangmen stood warming 
>>> themselves by the fire, drinking, eating and singing. Gradually, the fire 
>>> began to die down, leaving only ashes which went to fertilize the silent 
>>> soil. Human blood and human ashes - what food for the soil! There will be 
>>> a rich harvest. If only the soil could talk! It knows a lot but it keeps 
>>> quiet
>>>
>>>  ...The cremation of the corpses proved an unqualified success. Because 
>>> they were in a hurry, the Germans built additional fire grates and 
>>> augmented the crews serving them, so that from 10,000 to 12,000 corpses 
>>> were cremated at one time. The result was one huge inferno, which from 
>>> the distance looked like a volcano breaking through the earth's crust to 
>>> belch forth fire and lava. The pyres sizzled and crackled. The smoke and 
>>> heat made it impossible to remain close by. It lasted a long time because 
>>> there were more than half a million dead to dispose of.
>>>
>>>  Published by
>>>
>>>  AMERICAN REPRESENTATION
>>>
>>>  of the
>>>
>>>  General Jewish Workers' Union of Poland
>>>  175 East Broadway
>>>  New York 2, N.Y.
>>>  1945
>> What's ridiculous about it?
>>
>> It was horrible, but it was NOT ridiculous.  The testimony was factual.
> 
> Yeah! Right!
> 
> Where the fuck did they bury 700,000 bodies, idiot? There was not enough 
> ground inside the compound to accommodate that number of bodies.
> 
> You're a fucking idiot rozenboig.

In the middle of the mass graves was a water well, to drink and for 
cooking for the hole camp.
Wonderful!
JS

> 
> 


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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be Protagonist wrote
>          in message : 
> 
>> Roger wrote:
> 
>>>>> HANOVER, Germany - A Lutheran church will be converted into a synagogue with 
>>>>> a Jewish community center under a pending agreement between the church and 
>>>>> the Foundation for Liberal Judaism. The Jewish group announced its intention 
>>>>> Wednesday to acquire Gustav Adolf Church in Lower Saxony's capital city. The 
>>>>> announcement marks the second time this year that a Jewish congregation in 
>>>>> Germany has announced its intention to buy a Christian church.
>>>>>
>>>>> In February the Jewish community in Bielefeld expressed its desire to buy 
>>>>> Paul Gerhardt Church there. The Hanover Jews want to use Gustaf Adolf Church 
>>>>> as a center for Jewish studies, culture, and "social dialogue," as well as a 
>>>>> headquarters for the Union of Progressive Jews in Germany.
> 
>>>   
> 
>>>> Looks like Jews taking over Germany again?
> 
>>> You have a problem with the Free Market, in which someone with
>>> something to sell is allowed to sell it to someone interested in
>>> buying it, as long as there is no coercion?
> 
> Well?
> 
>>>> So far, most Germans I met, Jewish puppets, to say the least.
>>>> Jews throw dirt on them, they hide in the corner!
> 
>>> Why do you hate Germans so much?
> 
>> I don't see Germans buying Jewish synagogues, are you!?
> 
> Do you know of one that has been offered for sale?
> 
>> Seems, Jews are moving back and spreading all over Europe again.
> 
> No, seems like a simple real estate transaction which is only making
> you froth at the mouth because it involves Jews.

No Roger! Stop acting stupid.
Germany's Jewish population grown 10 fold since WW2 and still growing.
While Germany is accused of genocide, extermination of the Jews.
So, than why is Germany a magnet for Jews?
JS




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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be Protagonist wrote
>          in message : 
> 
>> Roger wrote:
> 
>>>>>> This guy blows the holocaust out of the water using Jewish sources. You may
>>>>>> want to save these vids to your harddrive - I'm guessing the Yids will try
>>>>>> to bring this site down, Yeah it's that good.
>>>>>> http://zamphir.litek.ws/
>>>>>> Enjoy.
> 
>>>>> Ah yes -- the old "I don't like what Yankiel Wiernik says, or the way
>>>>> he says it, so he's a fraud.  Not only that, anyone that cites him is
>>>>> *also* a fraud."
>>>>>
>>>>> One notes that this ... person ... doesn't even try to give an
>>>>> alternative explanation as to where all those people who were sent to
>>>>> these camps went, if they didn't die there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can *you*, idiot child?
> 
>>>> Roger baby 
> 
>>> I've told you before, julius -- go somewhere else to troll for dates.
> 
>>>> still playing the stupid, he has been told many times, never 
>>>> been 6 million Jews were ever killed, not even 1 million.
> 
>>> Of course, you can never actually *prove* this idiocy.
> 
>> That's what you and the Holohoax industry counting on, that no one can 
>> prove it otherwise, since they keep tab on all the records and evidences.
> 
> No, that's simple fact:  you cannot prove your assertion, nor can you
> disprove the 6 million.
> 
>> Revisionist proves all the lies and contradiction , what Jewish or 
>> tortured, black mailed German eyewitnesses fabricated.
> 
> Once again:  denial does not prove anything -- the deny, distort and
> dismiss anything which cannot be twisted into justification for their
> hate.
> 
>> See, Hoess testimony of 3 million death at Auschwitz,  while the 
>> official figure now days is 1.1 million.
> 
> Of course, Hoess later corrected himself, but don't let a little thing
> like the truth stop you...
> 
>>>> See, Auschwitz changed the official figures from 4 million to 1.1 
>>>> million for example. Boing!!!!
> 
>>> And as you know, no one out side of the USSR ever accepted the four
>>> million figure, so what's your point?
> 
>> NO? How about Poland, Germany, US and the hole world.
> 
> Nope.  Never accepted by historian there.

Now that's a very generalized statement, stupido.
What historian are you talking about?
6 million was posted at Auschwitz for 45 years!
Camp is located in Poland and not in the USSR, idiot.

> 
>>>> You fixate yourself on the the 6 million numbers and where all those 
>>>> people went??!!!
> 
>>> No, I merely point out that you cannot come up with an alternative
>>> which is both supported by the evidence and doesn't involve those
>>> people being killed.

That's what revisionist do, prove the alternatives. Good morning!
Where have you been in the last few years, in the dark Holocaust cave?
It's been proven, the 6 million is way over inflated number for Jewish 
death during WW2. More like, 1/2 millions or less. But than, some 60 
million people died during WW2, so don't see why 1/2 million is so 
important.


> 
>> Problem is, Holohoax industry can't come up with evidence, that's why 
>> all the contradiction and juggling of the number of death.
> 
> No, that's a result of different methodologies being applied to data
> which has gradually become more abundant -- just like any other time
> such an estimate has historically been calculated.

Yes, which ever fits Jewish lies to prove their theories.
For each generation,  new or modified stories of the Holohoax.
> 
>> You had 60 years and still can't get your stories right.
> 
> And it is a denier canard that there is not the slightest change
> allowed to the "story."
> 
> Funny that.

Right! You've been grabbing the bottle too much Roger baba!
JS


> 
>> We know more about the Pyramids or the Roman empire, than what happened 
>> 60 years ago.
> 
> Nope.
> 
>>>> Well Roger, here we go again, Jews live happily ever after in Israel and 
>>>> all over the world on Holohoax money claimed over the 6 million unknown 
>>>> and laughing them self all the way to the bank.
> 
>>> idiot julius doesn't seem to understand that reparations are paid on
>>> the basis of having *survived* the Holocaust, so if it were simply a
>>> matter of Jews trying to maximize reparations, he number of
>>> *survivors* and not the number of *victims* would be exaggerated.
> 
>> $60 billion was payed to Israel and Jews by Germany as compensation, 
>> since 1950-s.
> 
> Compensation ***for the survivors***.
> 
> IF it was money they were after, don't you think that the death would
> have been *downplayed*?
> 
>> That's more than a hole GDP of a small country.
>> Still not enough, after 60 years, Jews still crying for blood money over 
>> the Holohoax, that never happened.


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Ed wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
> news:f6OdnauE8IeaezLZnZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Ben Cramer wrote:
>>> "Ed"  wrote in message 
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>>>>> Quote:
>>>>> ...Work was begun to cremate the dead. It turned out that bodies of 
>>>>> women burned more easily than those of men. Accordingly, the bodies of 
>>>>> women were used for kindling the fires. Since cremation was hard work, 
>>>>> rivalry set in between the labor details as to which of them would be 
>>>>> able to cremate the largest number of bodies. Bulletin boards were 
>>>>> rigged up and daily scores were recorded. Nevertheless, the results 
>>>>> were very poor. The corpses were soaked in gasoline. This entailed 
>>>>> considerable expense and the results were inadequate; the male corpses 
>>>>> simply would not burn. Whenever an airplane was sighted overhead, all 
>>>>> work was stopped, the corpses were covered with foliage as camouflage 
>>>>> against aerial observation Wink .
>>>>>
>>>>> It was a terrifying sight, the most gruesome ever beheld by human eyes. 
>>>>> When corpses of pregnant women were cremated, their bellies would burst 
>>>>> open. The fetus would be exposed and could be seen burning inside the 
>>>>> mother's womb. ... http://www.zchor.org/treblink/wiernik.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> From the same source.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Quote: ...He put a machine for exhuming the corpses into operation, an 
>>>>> excavator which could dig up 3,000 corpses at one time. A fire grate 
>>>>> made of railroad tracks was placed on concrete foundations 100 to 150 
>>>>> meters in length. The workers piled the corpses on the grate and set 
>>>>> them on fire.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I am no longer a young man and have seen a great deal in my lifetime, 
>>>>> but not even Lucifer could possibly have created a hell worse than 
>>>>> this. Can you picture a grate of this length piled high with 3,000 
>>>>> corpses of people who had been alive only a short time before? As you 
>>>>> look at their faces it seems as if at any moment these bodies might 
>>>>> awaken from their deep sleep. But at a given signal a giant torch is 
>>>>> lit and it burns with a huge flame. If you stood close enough, you 
>>>>> could well imagine hearing moans from the lips of the sleeping bodies, 
>>>>> children sitting up and crying for their mothers. You are overwhelmed 
>>>>> by horror and pain, but you stand there just the same without saying 
>>>>> anything. The gangsters are standing near the ashes, shaking with 
>>>>> satanic laughter. Their faces radiate a truly satanic satisfaction. 
>>>>> They toasted the scene with brandy and with the choicest liqueurs, ate, 
>>>>> caroused and had a great time warming themselves by the fire.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Thus the Jews were of some use to them even after they had died. 
>>>>> Though the winter weather was bitter cold, the pyres gave off heat like 
>>>>> an oven. This heat came from the burning bodies of Jews. The hangmen 
>>>>> stood warming themselves by the fire, drinking, eating and singing. 
>>>>> Gradually, the fire began to die down, leaving only ashes which went to 
>>>>> fertilize the silent soil. Human blood and human ashes - what food for 
>>>>> the soil! There will be a rich harvest. If only the soil could talk! It 
>>>>> knows a lot but it keeps quiet
>>>>>
>>>>>  ...The cremation of the corpses proved an unqualified success. Because 
>>>>> they were in a hurry, the Germans built additional fire grates and 
>>>>> augmented the crews serving them, so that from 10,000 to 12,000 corpses 
>>>>> were cremated at one time. The result was one huge inferno, which from 
>>>>> the distance looked like a volcano breaking through the earth's crust 
>>>>> to belch forth fire and lava. The pyres sizzled and crackled. The smoke 
>>>>> and heat made it impossible to remain close by. It lasted a long time 
>>>>> because there were more than half a million dead to dispose of.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Published by
>>>>>
>>>>>  AMERICAN REPRESENTATION
>>>>>
>>>>>  of the
>>>>>
>>>>>  General Jewish Workers' Union of Poland
>>>>>  175 East Broadway
>>>>>  New York 2, N.Y.
>>>>>  1945
>>>> What's ridiculous about it?
>>>>
>>>> It was horrible, but it was NOT ridiculous.  The testimony was factual.
>>> Yeah! Right!
>>>
>>> Where the fuck did they bury 700,000 bodies, idiot? There was not enough 
>>> ground inside the compound to accommodate that number of bodies.
> 
> Bodies converted into ashes take up much less space, dildo!

They were buried first, than dug up than burned, moron, according to 
Holohoax myth.
It would need 18 large pits to cover 700 thousand bodies.
Camp map only shows only 4-5.
JS

> 
>>> You're a fucking idiot rozenboig.
> 
> And you're just a dildo.
> 
>> In the middle of the mass graves was a water well, to drink and for 
>> cooking for the hole camp.
>> Wonderful!
>> JS
>>
> 


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torresD wrote:
> http://www.zchor.org/treblink/wiernik.htm
> 
> 
> The Nazi Holocaust, does seem to top, all others in terms of the 
> singlemindness
> of the barbarity of one group of human beings towards another.
> 
> It wasn't enough to kill the Jewish people, the Nazi's devised, evermore 
> brutal,
> horrifying ways to carry this slaughter out.
> 
> It's no small wonder, that in view of what the Jewish people endured,
> what they saw with their own eyes, even kids, whose minds are not yet
> completely formed, behave the way they do sometimes.
> 
> For those that survive this horror, and had to see tons of bodies being
> burned, men, women, children, even pregnant women, there was no mercy
> shown, the Nazi Holocaust has to be something that affects their very soul
> to its core.
> 
> To have your children wrenched from you, to be shoved into a gas chamber,
> to see your people suffering all around you, shot in front of you, not be 
> able to
> stop it, human beings do not fully recover from those experiences.
> 
> Jewish people have recovered from that, but still those wounds can never be
> completely healed.
> 
> I think, that when you look at what Jewish people do sometimes,
> like what is going on in Gaza, you have to think about what happened
> to them during the Nazi Holocaust and you will understand better.
> 
> 
> 
> 

Except the Nazi Holohoax never happened, it's all fabrication.
JS


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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>          in message : 
> 
>> Did you read the part toward the end where Wiernik claimed he was shot? Yep,
>> the bullet passed through his clothes but didn't penetrate the skin.
>> Holocaust historians use Wiernik as a credible source, so it must be true
>>  
> 
> Aside from your ability to sneer, have you anything that says this
> could *not* have happened?
> 
> Free hint:  how far away was the shooter?

Roger baba, are you stupid again?
People die from gun shots,  fired vertically in the air miles away.
JS


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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be Protagonist wrote
>          in message : 
> 
>> Roger wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> HANOVER, Germany - A Lutheran church will be converted into a synagogue with 
>>>>>>> a Jewish community center under a pending agreement between the church and 
>>>>>>> the Foundation for Liberal Judaism. The Jewish group announced its intention 
>>>>>>> Wednesday to acquire Gustav Adolf Church in Lower Saxony's capital city. The 
>>>>>>> announcement marks the second time this year that a Jewish congregation in 
>>>>>>> Germany has announced its intention to buy a Christian church.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In February the Jewish community in Bielefeld expressed its desire to buy 
>>>>>>> Paul Gerhardt Church there. The Hanover Jews want to use Gustaf Adolf Church 
>>>>>>> as a center for Jewish studies, culture, and "social dialogue," as well as a 
>>>>>>> headquarters for the Union of Progressive Jews in Germany.
> 
>>>>>   
> 
>>>>>> Looks like Jews taking over Germany again?
> 
>>>>> You have a problem with the Free Market, in which someone with
>>>>> something to sell is allowed to sell it to someone interested in
>>>>> buying it, as long as there is no coercion?
> 
>>> Well?
> 
>>>>>> So far, most Germans I met, Jewish puppets, to say the least.
>>>>>> Jews throw dirt on them, they hide in the corner!
> 
>>>>> Why do you hate Germans so much?
> 
>>>> I don't see Germans buying Jewish synagogues, are you!?
> 
>>> Do you know of one that has been offered for sale?
> 
>>>> Seems, Jews are moving back and spreading all over Europe again.
> 
>>> No, seems like a simple real estate transaction which is only making
>>> you froth at the mouth because it involves Jews.
> 
>> No Roger! Stop acting stupid.
>> Germany's Jewish population grown 10 fold since WW2 and still growing.
>> While Germany is accused of genocide, extermination of the Jews.
>> So, than why is Germany a magnet for Jews?
> 
> And how much has the worldwide population grown?
> 
> Don't forget to show your work...

Jews emigrating to Germany, moron!
Nice try!
JS


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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be Protagonist wrote
>          in message : 
> 
>> Roger wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>>> HANOVER, Germany - A Lutheran church will be converted into a synagogue with 
>>>>>>>>> a Jewish community center under a pending agreement between the church and 
>>>>>>>>> the Foundation for Liberal Judaism. The Jewish group announced its intention 
>>>>>>>>> Wednesday to acquire Gustav Adolf Church in Lower Saxony's capital city. The 
>>>>>>>>> announcement marks the second time this year that a Jewish congregation in 
>>>>>>>>> Germany has announced its intention to buy a Christian church.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In February the Jewish community in Bielefeld expressed its desire to buy 
>>>>>>>>> Paul Gerhardt Church there. The Hanover Jews want to use Gustaf Adolf Church 
>>>>>>>>> as a center for Jewish studies, culture, and "social dialogue," as well as a 
>>>>>>>>> headquarters for the Union of Progressive Jews in Germany.
> 
>>>>>>>   
> 
>>>>>>>> Looks like Jews taking over Germany again?
> 
>>>>>>> You have a problem with the Free Market, in which someone with
>>>>>>> something to sell is allowed to sell it to someone interested in
>>>>>>> buying it, as long as there is no coercion?
> 
>>>>> Well?
> 
> I really think this deserves an answer.
> 
>>>>>>>> So far, most Germans I met, Jewish puppets, to say the least.
>>>>>>>> Jews throw dirt on them, they hide in the corner!
> 
>>>>>>> Why do you hate Germans so much?
> 
> And this ...
> 
>>>>>> I don't see Germans buying Jewish synagogues, are you!?
> 
>>>>> Do you know of one that has been offered for sale?
> 
> And this ...
> 
>>>>>> Seems, Jews are moving back and spreading all over Europe again.
> 
>>>>> No, seems like a simple real estate transaction which is only making
>>>>> you froth at the mouth because it involves Jews.
> 
>>>> No Roger! Stop acting stupid.
>>>> Germany's Jewish population grown 10 fold since WW2 and still growing.
>>>> While Germany is accused of genocide, extermination of the Jews.
>>>> So, than why is Germany a magnet for Jews?
> 
>>> And how much has the worldwide population grown?

What's world population has to do with any thing?
You like to derail things?
We talking about German Jewish population that increased over 10 fold, 
through Jewish immigration to Germany!
If German population would've increase that much, we would have some 800 
million Germans in Europe.
As we know, it's not the case.



>>>
>>> Don't forget to show your work...
> 
>> Jews emigrating to Germany, moron!
> 
> Doesn't answer the question.

It does, just your lizard brain can't comprehend.
> 
>> Nice try!
> 
> No, it wasn't -- didn't even attempt to address the question, which
> was:  how much has the worldwide population grown?

THIS WAS THE SUBJECT, TRY TREATING YOUR MENTAL DISEASE.
 >>>>Seems, Jews are moving back and spreading all over Europe again.
 >>>>> No, seems like a simple real estate transaction which is only making
 >>>>> you froth at the mouth because it involves Jews.<<<<
> 
> Don't forget to show your work...

Like you all ways do, lier!
JS



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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be Protagonist wrote
>          in message : 
> 
>> Roger wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>>>>> HANOVER, Germany - A Lutheran church will be converted into a synagogue with 
>>>>>>>>>>> a Jewish community center under a pending agreement between the church and 
>>>>>>>>>>> the Foundation for Liberal Judaism. The Jewish group announced its intention 
>>>>>>>>>>> Wednesday to acquire Gustav Adolf Church in Lower Saxony's capital city. The 
>>>>>>>>>>> announcement marks the second time this year that a Jewish congregation in 
>>>>>>>>>>> Germany has announced its intention to buy a Christian church.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In February the Jewish community in Bielefeld expressed its desire to buy 
>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Gerhardt Church there. The Hanover Jews want to use Gustaf Adolf Church 
>>>>>>>>>>> as a center for Jewish studies, culture, and "social dialogue," as well as a 
>>>>>>>>>>> headquarters for the Union of Progressive Jews in Germany.
> 
>>>>>>>>>   
> 
>>>>>>>>>> Looks like Jews taking over Germany again?
> 
>>>>>>>>> You have a problem with the Free Market, in which someone with
>>>>>>>>> something to sell is allowed to sell it to someone interested in
>>>>>>>>> buying it, as long as there is no coercion?
> 
>>>>>>> Well?
> 
>>> I really think this deserves an answer.
> 
>>>>>>>>>> So far, most Germans I met, Jewish puppets, to say the least.
>>>>>>>>>> Jews throw dirt on them, they hide in the corner!
> 
>>>>>>>>> Why do you hate Germans so much?
> 
>>> And this ...
> 
>>>>>>>> I don't see Germans buying Jewish synagogues, are you!?
> 
>>>>>>> Do you know of one that has been offered for sale?
> 
>>> And this ...
> 
>>>>>>>> Seems, Jews are moving back and spreading all over Europe again.
> 
>>>>>>> No, seems like a simple real estate transaction which is only making
>>>>>>> you froth at the mouth because it involves Jews.
> 
>>>>>> No Roger! Stop acting stupid.
>>>>>> Germany's Jewish population grown 10 fold since WW2 and still growing.
>>>>>> While Germany is accused of genocide, extermination of the Jews.
>>>>>> So, than why is Germany a magnet for Jews?
> 
>>>>> And how much has the worldwide population grown?
> 
>> What's world population has to do with any thing?
> 
> You claim that the Jewish population of Germany has increased 10 fold
> since WWII (something I have not yet asked that you support with an
> actual *cite*.)
> 
> But if the *worldwide* population has increased 20 fold, then the
> German Jews are still behind.

Bad-bad comparison. German population stayed the same, Jewish population 
increased 10 fold through emigration to Germany since WW2 and was a big 
jump after 1990, fall of communism.
Seems you don't get it, sounds like I'm talking to idiot.

> 
>> You like to derail things?
>> We talking about German Jewish population that increased over 10 fold, 
>> through Jewish immigration to Germany!
> 
> Of course, you offer nothing but bald assertion that this is so, on
> *both* points.

I read papers and watch PBS. I guess you're not!
> 
>> If German population would've increase that much, we would have some 800 
>> million Germans in Europe.
>> As we know, it's not the case.
> 
> No, we know nothing of the sort.

????

> 
> Your unsupported word is hardly authoritative.

I've seen a documentary about it on PBS, produced by Jews.
Munich Jew population is around 35,000 and growing, before 1990 was only 
8000.
Now Jews want their own University in Munich, because Jews are treated 
badly in German run Universities.

> 
>>>>> Don't forget to show your work...
> 
>>>> Jews emigrating to Germany, moron!
> 
>>> Doesn't answer the question.
> 
>> It does, just your lizard brain can't comprehend.
> 
> No, it doesn't.
> 
>>>> Nice try!
> 
>>> No, it wasn't -- didn't even attempt to address the question, which
>>> was:  how much has the worldwide population grown?
> 
>> THIS WAS THE SUBJECT, TRY TREATING YOUR MENTAL DISEASE.
> 
>>>>>>> Seems, Jews are moving back and spreading all over Europe again.
> 
>>>>>>> No, seems like a simple real estate transaction which is only making
>>>>>>> you froth at the mouth because it involves Jews.
> 
> You have *yet* to offer any other reason to whine about this
> particular real estate transaction.

If it would be other way around, Jews would be up in arms and pressuring 
  Germany through the US.
> 
>>> Don't forget to show your work...
> 
>> Like you all ways do, lier!
> 
> When asked, I provide citation.
> 
> You know, like to that German Supreme Court decisions specifically
> saying that Mein Kampf is not banned?

It is banned through copy right. Do you want another round of 
discussion, troll?
JS




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Ron Jacobson wrote:
> In article ,
> Ben Cramer <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>    ("Holocaust revisionism" drivel snipped)
> 
>    Hiya Benjie.
> 
>    Are you ready to lay off the drugs...
> 
>    "my younger Brother got me absolutely stoned on magic mushrooms.
> I spent three days sitting in the corner of the tent waiting to come
> down." -- Ben Cramer,  Source:  Message-ID:
> <1125123267.5e5d281ad88798917af26011bcb01dc0@teranews>
> 
>    and deal with the evidence?
> 
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/jaeger-report/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/wetzel-letter/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/camps/belsen/index.shtml
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//ohrdruf/images/ohrdruf-02.jpg
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//nordhausen/images/nordhausen-01.jpg
> http://www.chorale-populaire-de-paris.com/IMG/jpg/dachau.jpg
> http://www.arory.com/Doc%20du%20mois/dachau.jpg
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//buchenwald/images/buchenwald01.jpg
> 
> RJ.
> 

Ronny back with the meat wagon again, showing typhus victims died in 
labor camps.
JS



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Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
> In article ,
> Protagonist   wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>> Poor Jews, they survived the Holohoax, to be poor again in Malibu, LA!
>> They have to extort money from a poor country, Hungary, where the 
>> average monthly salary is $200 or less.
>> Which country is next, Albania or Ethiopia?
> 
> I take it that you, dimwitted szaki, believe that stolen goods should never be returned?
> How about stolen lives?

Yes, of course! Mainly what Jews stoled in Europe. You trying to say, 
they had all those goodies, from the profit of vegetable stands?
There was no Holocaust, so I don't know what stolen lives are you 
talking about?
Fact is, 9 million Germans died, I don't see them suing any one after 60 
years or getting payed?
While Israel Jews use Palestinians for slave labor to build Israel on 
Holohoax money!
You are a nut case McVay!
JS

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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be Protagonist wrote
>          in message <99adncqlisV_vS3ZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@comcast.com>: 
> 
>> Roger wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HANOVER, Germany - A Lutheran church will be converted into a synagogue with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a Jewish community center under a pending agreement between the church and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Foundation for Liberal Judaism. The Jewish group announced its intention 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wednesday to acquire Gustav Adolf Church in Lower Saxony's capital city. The 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> announcement marks the second time this year that a Jewish congregation in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany has announced its intention to buy a Christian church.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In February the Jewish community in Bielefeld expressed its desire to buy 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Gerhardt Church there. The Hanover Jews want to use Gustaf Adolf Church 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as a center for Jewish studies, culture, and "social dialogue," as well as a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> headquarters for the Union of Progressive Jews in Germany.
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>   
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like Jews taking over Germany again?
> 
>>>>>>>>>>> You have a problem with the Free Market, in which someone with
>>>>>>>>>>> something to sell is allowed to sell it to someone interested in
>>>>>>>>>>> buying it, as long as there is no coercion?
> 
>>>>>>>>> Well?
> 
>>>>> I really think this deserves an answer.
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> So far, most Germans I met, Jewish puppets, to say the least.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jews throw dirt on them, they hide in the corner!
> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you hate Germans so much?
> 
>>>>> And this ...
> 
>>>>>>>>>> I don't see Germans buying Jewish synagogues, are you!?
> 
>>>>>>>>> Do you know of one that has been offered for sale?
> 
>>>>> And this ...
> 
>>>>>>>>>> Seems, Jews are moving back and spreading all over Europe again.
> 
>>>>>>>>> No, seems like a simple real estate transaction which is only making
>>>>>>>>> you froth at the mouth because it involves Jews.
> 
>>>>>>>> No Roger! Stop acting stupid.
>>>>>>>> Germany's Jewish population grown 10 fold since WW2 and still growing.
>>>>>>>> While Germany is accused of genocide, extermination of the Jews.
>>>>>>>> So, than why is Germany a magnet for Jews?
> 
>>>>>>> And how much has the worldwide population grown?
> 
>>>> What's world population has to do with any thing?
> 
>>> You claim that the Jewish population of Germany has increased 10 fold
>>> since WWII (something I have not yet asked that you support with an
>>> actual *cite*.)
>>>
>>> But if the *worldwide* population has increased 20 fold, then the
>>> German Jews are still behind.
> 
>> Bad-bad comparison. German population stayed the same, Jewish population 
>> increased 10 fold through emigration to Germany since WW2 and was a big 
>> jump after 1990, fall of communism.
>> Seems you don't get it, sounds like I'm talking to idiot.
> 
> No, seems like you now have *three* claims which we're just supposed
> to accept.
> 
> What proof do you offer that the German population overall has not
> changed since WW2, that the Jewish population of Germany has increased
> 10fold during that time, and that all of the influx was due to
> immigration?

That's what I read and see on TV Buba, produced by Jews.
It was a year ago, can't recall the name of the show.
I think post it here back than.
If you don't believe me Goggle it, seems you have lot of time Troll.

> 
>>>> You like to derail things?
>>>> We talking about German Jewish population that increased over 10 fold, 
>>>> through Jewish immigration to Germany!
> 
>>> Of course, you offer nothing but bald assertion that this is so, on
>>> *both* points.
> 
>> I read papers and watch PBS. I guess you're not!
> 
> Guess I'm not, what?  Just going to take your word for it?
> 
> Good guess.

Don't have to, just Goggle it!
> 
>>>> If German population would've increase that much, we would have some 800 
>>>> million Germans in Europe.
>>>> As we know, it's not the case.
> 
>>> No, we know nothing of the sort.
> 
>> ????
> 
> We do *not* know that if the German population after WWII had
> increased 10 fold, that there would bi 800 million Germans right now.

You don't know? WOW! So you saying Germany's population skyrocket it to 
800 million?
Beware China, here comes Germany with 800 million people, when the hole 
Europes population is 350 million total.
You are dumber than I thought, Roger buba!
> 
> Got any *proof* of this?
> 
>>> Your unsupported word is hardly authoritative.
> 
>> I've seen a documentary about it on PBS, produced by Jews.
> 
> Name?  Date of broadcast?

Goggle it, Buba!
> 
>> Munich Jew population is around 35,000 and growing, before 1990 was only 
>> 8000.
> 
> Cite?
> 
>> Now Jews want their own University in Munich, because Jews are treated 
>> badly in German run Universities.
> 
> Cite?
> 
>>>>>>> Don't forget to show your work...
> 
>>>>>> Jews emigrating to Germany, moron!
> 
>>>>> Doesn't answer the question.
> 
>>>> It does, just your lizard brain can't comprehend.
> 
>>> No, it doesn't.
> 
>>>>>> Nice try!
> 
>>>>> No, it wasn't -- didn't even attempt to address the question, which
>>>>> was:  how much has the worldwide population grown?
> 
>>>> THIS WAS THE SUBJECT, TRY TREATING YOUR MENTAL DISEASE.
> 
>>>>>>>>> Seems, Jews are moving back and spreading all over Europe again.
> 
>>>>>>>>> No, seems like a simple real estate transaction which is only making
>>>>>>>>> you froth at the mouth because it involves Jews.
> 
>>> You have *yet* to offer any other reason to whine about this
>>> particular real estate transaction.
> 
>> If it would be other way around, Jews would be up in arms and pressuring 
>>  Germany through the US.
> 
> AH, now we're back to "let's play make believe."
> 
> Which *still* doesn't offer any other explanation why this particular
> real estate annoys you so much, except that it involves Jews.
> 
>>>>> Don't forget to show your work...
> 
>>>> Like you all ways do, lier!
> 
>>> When asked, I provide citation.
>>>
>>> You know, like to that German Supreme Court decisions specifically
>>> saying that Mein Kampf is not banned?
> 
>> It is banned through copy right. Do you want another round of 
>> discussion, troll?
> 
> But copyright *is* banning, except by your private definition, shared
> by no one else in the world.  And every time, I cite the German
> Supreme Court.

Copy right is banning, if no reproduction is allowed by others and 
punishable by law.
In this case the state is the holder of the copy right, not allowing any 
reproduction of MK. Enforcing it to the max.



> 
> Your turn:  what proof do you offer that the German population overall
> has not changed since WW2, that the Jewish population of Germany has
> increased 10fold during that time, and that all of the influx was due
> to immigration?

Goggle it ! Do I have to do every thing for you?
Told you, seen it on PBS, documentary was produced by Jews!
You think Jews lie? Ohhh, Nooo! Not again?
JS





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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>          in message : 
> 
>> Roger wrote:
> 
>>>> I read papers and watch PBS. I guess you're not!
> 
>>> Guess I'm not, what?  Just going to take your word for it?
> 
>> Guess you don't watch PBS, do ya Roger?
> 
> Like most of your guesses, completely wrong.
> 
> What documentary are you claiming proves "julius'" crap?

Maybe you can start here, Buba!
Did a quick search!
http://www.goethe.de/ges/rel/dos/jul/en1418155.htm
JS


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torresD wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
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> 
>> http://www.zchor.org/treblink/wiernik.htm
>>> The Nazi Holocaust, does seem to top, all others in terms of the 
>>> singlemindness
>>> of the barbarity of one group of human beings towards another.
>>> It wasn't enough to kill the Jewish people, the Nazi's devised, evermore 
>>> brutal,
>>> horrifying ways to carry this slaughter out.
>>> It's no small wonder, that in view of what the Jewish people endured,
>>> what they saw with their own eyes, even kids, whose minds are not yet
>>> completely formed, behave the way they do sometimes.
>>> For those that survive this horror, and had to see tons of bodies being
>>> burned, men, women, children, even pregnant women, there was no mercy
>>> shown, the Nazi Holocaust has to be something that affects their very 
>>> soul
>>> to its core.
>>> To have your children wrenched from you, to be shoved into a gas chamber,
>>> to see your people suffering all around you, shot in front of you, not be 
>>> able to
>>> stop it, human beings do not fully recover from those experiences.
>>> Jewish people have recovered from that,
>> but still those wounds can never be completely healed.
> 
>>> I think, that when you look at what Jewish people do sometimes,
>>> like what is going on in Gaza, you have to think about what happened
>>> to them during the Nazi Holocaust and you will understand better.
> 
>> Except the Nazi Holohoax never happened, it's all fabrication.
>> JS
> 
> You're wrong, there was a Nazi Holocaust, unfortunately.
> To the shame and disgrace of all those in a position to stop the Nazi's and
> did nothing.
> The Nazi's were cruel, vicious people.
> All that blonde hair and blue eyes, they didn't look like the evil bastards 
> they are.
> Can't say were, because there is still an element alive of this horror in 
> Germany.
> Now that should be stamped out.
> 
> 
> http://shamash.org/holocaust/photos/
> 
> 

It's all propaganda. You photos don't prove anything.
I can take pictures of the local creama and fabricate stories about a 
Holocaust that happened in my local town, long as I can have powerful 
people behind me, to back me up.
JS




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Ed wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
> news:PaqdncvwsbpRbjLZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> torresD wrote:
>>> http://www.zchor.org/treblink/wiernik.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> The Nazi Holocaust, does seem to top, all others in terms of the 
>>> singlemindness
>>> of the barbarity of one group of human beings towards another.
>>>
>>> It wasn't enough to kill the Jewish people, the Nazi's devised, evermore 
>>> brutal,
>>> horrifying ways to carry this slaughter out.
>>>
>>> It's no small wonder, that in view of what the Jewish people endured,
>>> what they saw with their own eyes, even kids, whose minds are not yet
>>> completely formed, behave the way they do sometimes.
>>>
>>> For those that survive this horror, and had to see tons of bodies being
>>> burned, men, women, children, even pregnant women, there was no mercy
>>> shown, the Nazi Holocaust has to be something that affects their very 
>>> soul
>>> to its core.
>>>
>>> To have your children wrenched from you, to be shoved into a gas chamber,
>>> to see your people suffering all around you, shot in front of you, not be 
>>> able to
>>> stop it, human beings do not fully recover from those experiences.
>>>
>>> Jewish people have recovered from that, but still those wounds can never 
>>> be
>>> completely healed.
>>>
>>> I think, that when you look at what Jewish people do sometimes,
>>> like what is going on in Gaza, you have to think about what happened
>>> to them during the Nazi Holocaust and you will understand better.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Except the Nazi Holohoax never happened, it's all fabrication.
>> JS
> 
> Right.  The Holohoax never occurred.  The HOLOCAUST did.
> 
> 

It did not! Main proof is the lack of evidence and the overblown 6 
million death figure used for propaganda. (These figures has been 
juggled around a bit)
Bigger the lie, the more believable it is.
JS


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Ed wrote:
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>> Ed wrote:
>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
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>>>> Ben Cramer wrote:
>>>>> "Ed"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:_-qdnVFLMOpwJDLZnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>> "Heinrich"  wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:4h9b88F1q2l8fU1@individual.net...
>>>>>>> Quote:
>>>>>>> ...Work was begun to cremate the dead. It turned out that bodies of 
>>>>>>> women burned more easily than those of men. Accordingly, the bodies 
>>>>>>> of women were used for kindling the fires. Since cremation was hard 
>>>>>>> work, rivalry set in between the labor details as to which of them 
>>>>>>> would be able to cremate the largest number of bodies. Bulletin 
>>>>>>> boards were rigged up and daily scores were recorded. Nevertheless, 
>>>>>>> the results were very poor. The corpses were soaked in gasoline. This 
>>>>>>> entailed considerable expense and the results were inadequate; the 
>>>>>>> male corpses simply would not burn. Whenever an airplane was sighted 
>>>>>>> overhead, all work was stopped, the corpses were covered with foliage 
>>>>>>> as camouflage against aerial observation Wink .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It was a terrifying sight, the most gruesome ever beheld by human 
>>>>>>> eyes. When corpses of pregnant women were cremated, their bellies 
>>>>>>> would burst open. The fetus would be exposed and could be seen 
>>>>>>> burning inside the mother's womb. ... 
>>>>>>> http://www.zchor.org/treblink/wiernik.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From the same source.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Quote: ...He put a machine for exhuming the corpses into operation, 
>>>>>>> an excavator which could dig up 3,000 corpses at one time. A fire 
>>>>>>> grate made of railroad tracks was placed on concrete foundations 100 
>>>>>>> to 150 meters in length. The workers piled the corpses on the grate 
>>>>>>> and set them on fire.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I am no longer a young man and have seen a great deal in my 
>>>>>>> lifetime, but not even Lucifer could possibly have created a hell 
>>>>>>> worse than this. Can you picture a grate of this length piled high 
>>>>>>> with 3,000 corpses of people who had been alive only a short time 
>>>>>>> before? As you look at their faces it seems as if at any moment these 
>>>>>>> bodies might awaken from their deep sleep. But at a given signal a 
>>>>>>> giant torch is lit and it burns with a huge flame. If you stood close 
>>>>>>> enough, you could well imagine hearing moans from the lips of the 
>>>>>>> sleeping bodies, children sitting up and crying for their mothers. 
>>>>>>> You are overwhelmed by horror and pain, but you stand there just the 
>>>>>>> same without saying anything. The gangsters are standing near the 
>>>>>>> ashes, shaking with satanic laughter. Their faces radiate a truly 
>>>>>>> satanic satisfaction. They toasted the scene with brandy and with the 
>>>>>>> choicest liqueurs, ate, caroused and had a great time warming 
>>>>>>> themselves by the fire.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Thus the Jews were of some use to them even after they had died. 
>>>>>>> Though the winter weather was bitter cold, the pyres gave off heat 
>>>>>>> like an oven. This heat came from the burning bodies of Jews. The 
>>>>>>> hangmen stood warming themselves by the fire, drinking, eating and 
>>>>>>> singing. Gradually, the fire began to die down, leaving only ashes 
>>>>>>> which went to fertilize the silent soil. Human blood and human 
>>>>>>> ashes - what food for the soil! There will be a rich harvest. If only 
>>>>>>> the soil could talk! It knows a lot but it keeps quiet
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  ...The cremation of the corpses proved an unqualified success. 
>>>>>>> Because they were in a hurry, the Germans built additional fire 
>>>>>>> grates and augmented the crews serving them, so that from 10,000 to 
>>>>>>> 12,000 corpses were cremated at one time. The result was one huge 
>>>>>>> inferno, which from the distance looked like a volcano breaking 
>>>>>>> through the earth's crust to belch forth fire and lava. The pyres 
>>>>>>> sizzled and crackled. The smoke and heat made it impossible to remain 
>>>>>>> close by. It lasted a long time because there were more than half a 
>>>>>>> million dead to dispose of.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Published by
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  AMERICAN REPRESENTATION
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  of the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  General Jewish Workers' Union of Poland
>>>>>>>  175 East Broadway
>>>>>>>  New York 2, N.Y.
>>>>>>>  1945
>>>>>> What's ridiculous about it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was horrible, but it was NOT ridiculous.  The testimony was 
>>>>>> factual.
>>>>> Yeah! Right!
>>>>>
>>>>> Where the fuck did they bury 700,000 bodies, idiot? There was not 
>>>>> enough ground inside the compound to accommodate that number of bodies.
>>> Bodies converted into ashes take up much less space, dildo!
>> They were buried first, than dug up than burned, moron, according to 
>> Holohoax myth.
> 
> An exercise in creative writing, "Protaginist?"
> 
> This must be lie #3,256,809,173 (but who's counting?) regarding the 
> Holocaust.
> 
>> It would need 18 large pits to cover 700 thousand bodies.
>> Camp map only shows only 4-5.
> 
> There was more than one camp, idiot.
> 
> And how do you know how many pits would be needed?  Personal experience?
> 
> 
> 

It can be calculated easily. Do you own a calculator or you only like to 
read fairy tales?
JS


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Ron Jacobson wrote:
> In article ,
> Ben Cramer <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> It takes something like 2 tonnes of fire wood to cremate a body in India, 
>> and the body is placed directly on the burning timber so no heat escapes.
> 
>    http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/cremation/dresden.shtml
> 
> RJ.
> 

That's not 700 thousand people on the picture, moron RJ.
Also, cheap railroad iron not a good choice for high heat in the long run.
JS


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Norma wrote:
> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e8pq3k$189a$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>> "127.0.0.1" <127.0.0.1@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
>> news:wOXrg.67$_t2.47@fe07.lga...
>>> Roger wrote:
>>>
>>>> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>>>>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>>>>       someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>>>>          in message :
>>>>
>>>>> Ben Cramer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Did you read the part toward the end where Wiernik claimed he was
>>>>>>>>>> shot? Yep,
>>>>>>>>>> the bullet passed through his clothes but didn't penetrate the
>>>>>>>>>> skin.
>>>>>>>>>> Holocaust historians use Wiernik as a credible source, so it must
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> true
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Aside from your ability to sneer, have you anything that says this
>>>>>>>>> could *not* have happened?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Free hint:  how far away was the shooter?
>>>>>>>> Roger baba, are you stupid again?
>>>>>>>> People die from gun shots,  fired vertically in the air miles away.
>>>>>>> Yes, when the bullet is dropping down again with gravity maintaining
>>>>>>> its speed.
>>>>>> Gravity doesn't maintain it's speed you fool. Do you nothing of
>>>>>> trajectory and terminal velocity?
>>>> Yes.  And I know that if traveling horizontally, a bullet will slow
>>>> and fall.  Traveling vertically, it will not slow, and only stop when
>>>> it encounters an obstruction.
>>>>
>>>>>> Wiernik is a bullshiter if he claimes he was shot but the projectile,
>>>>>> which tore through his clothing, did not break the skin. That just
>>>>>> doesn't happen, particularly with military ammunition.
>>>> How many layer of clothing are we talking about?
>>>>
>>>> And how do you know specifically what gun he was shot with?
>>>>
>>>>> Roger knows the guy was a LIAR, yet continues to defend his lies. Roger
>>>>> is
>>>>> now claiming that women burn better than men.
>>>> Why would they not?  They have a higher percentage of body fat...
>>> What was the % of body fat on these women?
>> It was interesting to observe the cramation of cattle during the foot and
>> mouth thingie in the UK. Cattle were piled up, in exactly the same fashion
>> as Wiernik stated, and set on fire with hundreds of gallons of diesel fuel
>> applied. After 12 hours burning, only the upper cattler were schorched,
>> necessitating the constant movement of the carcasses to get a burn. Even
>> then there were still large chunks of flesh still unconsumed by the fire,
>> and the bones had largely been unaffected.
>>
>> Maybe yid physics were deployed at Treblinka so that the laws of nature
>> could be overcome, allowing human bodies to burn like cordwood and
>> everything to have been reduced to ash and bone flakes.
>>
>> Amazing.
> 
> You are comparing human bodies to those of animals?  Now that "is" amazing
> and gross.
> 
> 

Are they different?
JS


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Norma wrote:
> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e8ptgh$19c4$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>> "Norma"  wrote in message
>> news:Dd_rg.851$rZ3.367@fe03.lga...
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>>> news:e8pq3k$189a$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>>>> "127.0.0.1" <127.0.0.1@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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>>>>> Roger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>>>>>>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>>>>>>       someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>>>>>>          in message :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ben Cramer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you read the part toward the end where Wiernik claimed he
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> shot? Yep,
>>>>>>>>>>>> the bullet passed through his clothes but didn't penetrate the
>>>>>>>>>>>> skin.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Holocaust historians use Wiernik as a credible source, so it
>>>>>>>>>>>> must
>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> true
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Aside from your ability to sneer, have you anything that says
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> could *not* have happened?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Free hint:  how far away was the shooter?
>>>>>>>>>> Roger baba, are you stupid again?
>>>>>>>>>> People die from gun shots,  fired vertically in the air miles
> away.
>>>>>>>>> Yes, when the bullet is dropping down again with gravity
>>>>>>>>> maintaining
>>>>>>>>> its speed.
>>>>>>>> Gravity doesn't maintain it's speed you fool. Do you nothing of
>>>>>>>> trajectory and terminal velocity?
>>>>>> Yes.  And I know that if traveling horizontally, a bullet will slow
>>>>>> and fall.  Traveling vertically, it will not slow, and only stop
> when
>>>>>> it encounters an obstruction.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wiernik is a bullshiter if he claimes he was shot but the
>>>>>>>> projectile,
>>>>>>>> which tore through his clothing, did not break the skin. That just
>>>>>>>> doesn't happen, particularly with military ammunition.
>>>>>> How many layer of clothing are we talking about?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And how do you know specifically what gun he was shot with?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Roger knows the guy was a LIAR, yet continues to defend his lies.
>>>>>>> Roger
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> now claiming that women burn better than men.
>>>>>> Why would they not?  They have a higher percentage of body fat...
>>>>> What was the % of body fat on these women?
>>>> It was interesting to observe the cramation of cattle during the foot
> and
>>>> mouth thingie in the UK. Cattle were piled up, in exactly the same
>>>> fashion
>>>> as Wiernik stated, and set on fire with hundreds of gallons of diesel
>>>> fuel
>>>> applied. After 12 hours burning, only the upper cattler were schorched,
>>>> necessitating the constant movement of the carcasses to get a burn.
> Even
>>>> then there were still large chunks of flesh still unconsumed by the
> fire,
>>>> and the bones had largely been unaffected.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe yid physics were deployed at Treblinka so that the laws of nature
>>>> could be overcome, allowing human bodies to burn like cordwood and
>>>> everything to have been reduced to ash and bone flakes.
>>>>
>>>> Amazing.
>>> You are comparing human bodies to those of animals?  Now that "is"
> amazing
>>> and gross.
>> They possess exactly the same physical properties, and the method of
>> cremation affects both equally. Are you saying that jewish bodies can be
>> used as firewood?
> 
> No, but I think that you probably would if you could get by with it.  This
> whole evening has seen you go round and round some kind of merry-go-round
> with so many posters and so many insults.  You must be feeling elated.
> 
> 

See Episode #23:
http://zamphir.litek.ws/

Also, discovery ch. had piece on forensic evidence , about how hard to 
burn human remains, as criminals often try to cover evidence.
That's why high temperature cremation ovens are used.

JS


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Ron Jacobson wrote:
> In article ,
> Ben Cramer <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Maybe yid physics were deployed at Treblinka so that the laws of nature 
>> could be overcome, 
> 
>    Not at all,  dopehead.  As a matter of fact,  the testimonies
> about the open-air cremation of the corpses in Treblinka EXACTLY
> match the process that was used by the Germans to burn corpses
> of people who were killed in Dresden:
> 
>    http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/cremation/dresden.shtml
> 
> RJ.

Right! In the middle of rain and snow of Poland!
So, how come Treblinka tree branch fences didn't burn, since they were 
near the grills?
JS


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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>          in message <4gWrg.51$_t2.31@fe07.lga>: 
> 
>> Protagonist wrote:
> 
>>>>> Did you read the part toward the end where Wiernik claimed he was shot?
>>>>> Yep, the bullet passed through his clothes but didn't penetrate the
>>>>> skin. Holocaust historians use Wiernik as a credible source, so it must
>>>>> be true 
> 
>>>> Aside from your ability to sneer, have you anything that says this
>>>> could *not* have happened?
>>>>
>>>> Free hint:  how far away was the shooter?
> 
>>> Roger baba, are you stupid again?
>>> People die from gun shots,  fired vertically in the air miles away.
> 
>> I'm surprised he hasn't demanded that you calculate the terminal velocity of
>> a falling bullet and then demand proof that such a speed of decent were
>> capable of killing someone. 
> 
> No, I'm content to point out that both of your are running from
> answering the question "how far away was the shooter," which is
> critical to your sneers that this story is impossible.

It's not mentioned, but had to be in eyesight, since the guard shoot at 
the prisoner and was able to hit him.
My small 22 cal rifle has a range up to 1 1/2 mile and I wouldn't stand 
in front of it. I pop glass bottles and cans from hundred yards.
Regan was shot with a small 22 cal pistol three times and  was lucky no 
vital organ was hit.
JS



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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>          in message <4gWrg.51$_t2.31@fe07.lga>: 
> 
>> Protagonist wrote:
> 
>>>>> Did you read the part toward the end where Wiernik claimed he was shot?
>>>>> Yep, the bullet passed through his clothes but didn't penetrate the
>>>>> skin. Holocaust historians use Wiernik as a credible source, so it must
>>>>> be true 
> 
>>>> Aside from your ability to sneer, have you anything that says this
>>>> could *not* have happened?
>>>>
>>>> Free hint:  how far away was the shooter?
> 
>>> Roger baba, are you stupid again?
>>> People die from gun shots,  fired vertically in the air miles away.
> 
>> I'm surprised he hasn't demanded that you calculate the terminal velocity of
>> a falling bullet and then demand proof that such a speed of decent were
>> capable of killing someone. 
> 
> No, I'm content to point out that both of your are running from
> answering the question "how far away was the shooter," which is
> critical to your sneers that this story is impossible.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060102/news_1m2hail.html

2 injured by falling bullets

Callers to 911 report shots fired into air by revelers

By Joe Hughes
STAFF WRITER

January 2, 2006

Falling bullets injured two people and narrowly missed a half-dozen 
children after New Year's Eve revelers fired guns into the air across 
San Diego County.

The most serious injury involved a 27-year-old woman whose shoulder was 
pierced by a stray bullet as she stood on her apartment balcony on 
Felicita Avenue in Escondido.


Thirty miles away, a man was hit on a hand by a bullet that had passed 
through a wall of his Chamoune Avenue house in the Swan Canyon 
neighborhood of San Diego.

Additionally, a family in the Chollas View neighborhood of San Diego had 
a close call when a bullet came through the roof of their house on Lise 
Avenue, landing in a bedroom where six children slept. The children were 
not hurt. Two adults also were in the house.

Police say San Diego residents usually don't face the danger of falling 
bullets, which can be common during New Year's celebrations in other 
cities and elsewhere in the world.


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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>          in message : 
> 
>> Roger wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> Did you read the part toward the end where Wiernik claimed he was
>>>>>>> shot? Yep, the bullet passed through his clothes but didn't penetrate
>>>>>>> the skin. Holocaust historians use Wiernik as a credible source, so it
>>>>>>> must be true 
> 
>>>>>> Aside from your ability to sneer, have you anything that says this
>>>>>> could *not* have happened?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Free hint:  how far away was the shooter?
> 
>>>>> Roger baba, are you stupid again?
>>>>> People die from gun shots,  fired vertically in the air miles away.
> 
>>>> I'm surprised he hasn't demanded that you calculate the terminal velocity
>>>> of a falling bullet and then demand proof that such a speed of decent were
>>>> capable of killing someone.
> 
>>> No, I'm content to point out that both of your are running from
>>> answering the question "how far away was the shooter," which is
>>> critical to your sneers that this story is impossible.
> 
>> How does a bullet go through clothes and not break the skin?
> 
> Free hint:  how far away was the shooter, and what might that have
> done to the speed of the bullet, and therefore its ability to
> penetrate several layers of clothes -- which BTW offer more resistance
> to its motion than air, and so would slow the bullet even more?

You are a nut case!
JS


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Ron Jacobson wrote:
>    Why "ridiculous"?  This is exactly how the Germans cremated
> corpses in Dresden:
> 
>    http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/cremation/dresden.shtml
> 
>    Well,  I guess now that's a "hoax" too?
> 
> RJ.
>    

That pyre is to burn people, not necessarily reducing them to total ash, 
As Jewish eyewitness BS stories claim it, in labor camps.
Why did the Germans, go to great extent to design and build cremation 
ovens, if it was so easy to burn people on open fire, idiot?
JS


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Ron Jacobson wrote:
> In article ,
> Protagonist   wrote:
> 
>> Ron Jacobson wrote:
> 
>>>    http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/cremation/dresden.shtml
> 
>> That's not 700 thousand people on the picture, moron RJ.
> 
>    Yes,  but no one asserts that all the Treblinka victims were
> burned at once.  Please don't be so stupid.
> 
>    The photograph is an EXACT match to the method used in
> Treblinka,  as described by Wiernik and other survivors,  as
> well as by the SS staff.

Not really! Treblinka had grills above the ground and the fire was built 
under it- according to BS eyewitnesses. There was no protection around 
it for rain, snow and wind.
Proper burning and cocking grills are adjustable up and down, to keep 
the heat close to the subject. It was not said about the Treblinka grill 
if any weather protection  was built around it.
Obvious, this BS storie was used for Soviet propaganda.

> 
>    Funny how you lunatics accept it could have been used in
> Dresden,  but not in Treblinka.

Burning bodies in Dresden had a different purpose moron!
Did they crush the bones in Dresden?

> 
>> Also, cheap railroad iron not a good choice for high heat in
>> the long run.
> 
>    How do you know that,  Julius?

Because it warps. For cheap grills cast iron or for  better grills  high 
quality alloy stills are used, can last a long time.
railroad steal are forged, made for strength to carry heavy load not for 
high heat.
Most boilers, where lot of heat involved are made of cast iron, it don't 
warp.
Js


> 
> RJ.


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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be Protagonist wrote
>          in message : 
> 
>> Roger wrote:
> 
>>>>>> I read papers and watch PBS. I guess you're not!
> 
>>>>> Guess I'm not, what?  Just going to take your word for it?
> 
>>>> Guess you don't watch PBS, do ya Roger?
> 
>>> Like most of your guesses, completely wrong.
>>>
>>> What documentary are you claiming proves "julius'" crap?
> 
>> Maybe you can start here, Buba!
> 
> Well, I could, if it even began to support your crap about a tenfold
> increase, all from immigration.
> 
>> Did a quick search!
>> http://www.goethe.de/ges/rel/dos/jul/en1418155.htm
> 
> You really should *read* your sources:  the only numbers mentioned
> here are a four-fold increase since the wall fell.

I was referring to the TV show and News paper article I read. This 
website is only quick find.
Told you, do your own research
, lazy!
JS


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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>          in message <51Yrg.71$_t2.66@fe07.lga>: 
> 
>> Roger wrote:
> 
>>>>>> Good post. I like how Jewish sources are used to make the claim that the
>>>>>> holocaust was the hoax of the twentieth century.
> 
>>>>> bergie didn't cite any Jewish sources which made that claim, idiot.
> 
>>>> The Jewish Week 11-28-2003
>>>> Two new studies to determine the location of Jewish Holocaust
>>>> survivors, for use in making future allocations to the most needy,
>>>> differ widely on the number of survivors worldwide, The Jewish Week has
>>>> learned. Sergio Della Pergola, a demographer for the Institute of
>>>> Contemporary Jewry at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, found
>>>> 1,092,000 survivors worldwide. Jacob Ukeles, a policy researcher in
>>>> Manhattan, found 688,000. The Ukeles survey, an update of one he
>>>> prepared in 2000 for the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against
>>>> Germany, found only minor differences from his previous effort.
>>>> Lawrence Eagleburger, chairman of the International Commission on
>>>> Holocaust Era Insurance Claims, commissioned both surveys. Eagleburger
>>>> had hoped to use the figures in determining how to distribute $13.2
>>>> million annually in humanitarian funds for needy survivors worldwide
> 
>>> ... which states nowhere that the Holocaust was a hoax.
> 
>> No, they don't come out and call it that.
> 
> No, they don't even *suggest* that.
> 
>>> Or are you trying to pretend that the normative understanding involves
>>> no Jewish survivors?
> 
>> There was no holocaust Roger. You've been scammed by the masters of
>> propaganda. Maybe it's hard for you to believe that everything you were
>> taught about WW-ll was based on lies, well it was. Remember, the victors
>> are the ones who write history.
> 
> One notes you running away from your lie about bergie citing Jewish
> sources which identify the Holocaust as a hoax.

Holocau$t needs legal protection, they putting people to jail to protected.
It shows what a fraud it is.
JS


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hoaxbuster@earthlink.net wrote:
> And NO autopsies.  We have to keep slapping RJ on his
> knuckles--otherwise he will never learn.

It's easier to put deniers to jail and create Holocu$t laws, than 
digging up graves, which would tell the truth.
JS

> 
> Friedrich Paul Berg
> Learn everything at www.nazigassings.com
> 
> Ron Jacobson wrote:
>> In article <1152402385.223201.208650@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>,
>> hoaxbuster@earthlink.net  wrote:
>>
>>> The Jews were still alive
>>    Most were not.
>>
>>
>>    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1673471.stm
>>
>>    Mass graves found at Nazi camp
>> Researchers have discovered seven mass graves at the Sobibor Nazi
>> death camp in north-eastern Poland.
>>
>>    The research team,  which began its government-sponsored investigation
>> in the summer,  said the graves -- the largest of which is about half
>> the size of a football pitch -- contain charred remains.
>>
>>    
>>
>>    A very elaborate study of the mass graves in the Belzec death camp was
>> conducted a few years ago by a team of Polish archaeologists,  headed by
>> Prof. Andrzej Kola from the University of Torun in Poland,  who is the
>> author of more than 130 papers on archaeology.  The team studied the site
>> of the death camp,  drilling 1,700 bore holes and investigating the core
>> samples.  The results are summarized in an 84 page report (ANDRZEJ KOLA:
>> "BELZEC.  THE NAZI CAMP FOR JEWS IN THE LIGHT OF ARCHAEOLOGICAL SOURCES.
>> Excavations 1997-1999".  ISBN 83-905590-6-4).  The study has recovered
>> human remains over a very large area,  to a depth of up to six meters.
>> The minimal estimate to the volume of the graves is 21,000 cubic meters.
>>
>> RJ.
> 


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Ron Jacobson wrote:
> In article <1152429304.286833.101950@35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> hoaxbuster@earthlink.net  wrote:
> 
>> And NO autopsies. 
> 
>    Autopsies of what?  Ashes?

Yessss!!!!! Ashes!!! Quick lime, poison, cause of death etc...
What's so hard about it?
JS


> 
>>>    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1673471.stm
>>>
>>>    Mass graves found at Nazi camp
>>> Researchers have discovered seven mass graves at the Sobibor Nazi
>>> death camp in north-eastern Poland.
>>>
>>>    The research team,  which began its government-sponsored investigation
>>> in the summer,  said the graves -- the largest of which is about half
>>> the size of a football pitch -- contain charred remains.
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>    A very elaborate study of the mass graves in the Belzec death camp was
>>> conducted a few years ago by a team of Polish archaeologists,  headed by
>>> Prof. Andrzej Kola from the University of Torun in Poland,  who is the
>>> author of more than 130 papers on archaeology.  The team studied the site
>>> of the death camp,  drilling 1,700 bore holes and investigating the core
>>> samples.  The results are summarized in an 84 page report (ANDRZEJ KOLA:
>>> "BELZEC.  THE NAZI CAMP FOR JEWS IN THE LIGHT OF ARCHAEOLOGICAL SOURCES.
>>> Excavations 1997-1999".  ISBN 83-905590-6-4).  The study has recovered
>>> human remains over a very large area,  to a depth of up to six meters.
>>> The minimal estimate to the volume of the graves is 21,000 cubic meters.
>>>
>>> RJ.
> 
> 


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Ron Jacobson wrote:
> In article <1152429304.286833.101950@35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> hoaxbuster@earthlink.net  wrote:
> 
>> And NO autopsies. 
> 
>    Autopsies of what?  Ashes?
> 
>>>    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1673471.stm
>>>
>>>    Mass graves found at Nazi camp
>>> Researchers have discovered seven mass graves at the Sobibor Nazi
>>> death camp in north-eastern Poland.
>>>
>>>    The research team,  which began its government-sponsored investigation
>>> in the summer,  said the graves -- the largest of which is about half
>>> the size of a football pitch -- contain charred remains.
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>    A very elaborate study of the mass graves in the Belzec death camp was
>>> conducted a few years ago by a team of Polish archaeologists,  headed by
>>> Prof. Andrzej Kola from the University of Torun in Poland,  who is the
>>> author of more than 130 papers on archaeology.  The team studied the site
>>> of the death camp,  drilling 1,700 bore holes and investigating the core
>>> samples.  The results are summarized in an 84 page report (ANDRZEJ KOLA:
>>> "BELZEC.  THE NAZI CAMP FOR JEWS IN THE LIGHT OF ARCHAEOLOGICAL SOURCES.
>>> Excavations 1997-1999".  ISBN 83-905590-6-4).  The study has recovered
>>> human remains over a very large area,  to a depth of up to six meters.
>>> The minimal estimate to the volume of the graves is 21,000 cubic meters.
>>>
>>> RJ.
> 
> 

That's what the Germans with the Katyin forest mass graves.
Didn't wait 60 years!
JS


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http://fcit.usf.edu/Holocaust/maps/maptreb.htm

Check out the WELL (blue round circle) on the map, not far (20 meters) 
>from the mass graves, where 700 thousand rotten corpses were buried.
Well was used for drinking water and cooking.
Arad mansions it in his book, prisoners fetch water from here regularly 
for the kitchen.

Map shows 7 large and small mass graves, when it would've take at least 
18 olimpic size swimming pools to contain 700 thousand bodies.
Haha!
JS


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127.0.0.1 wrote:
> The IHR conference is being covered live via the Hal Turner. The Conference
> is being held in an undisclosed location. Mark Weber and many others will
> be speaking.
> 
> www.halturnershow.com 
> 
> Hal just come on the air and said they are preparing to broadcast. If you
> tune in and get dead air, just hang on..
> 
> 
What station?
JS


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Ron Jacobson wrote:
> In article ,
> Protagonist   wrote:
> 
>> http://fcit.usf.edu/Holocaust/maps/maptreb.htm
>>
>> Check out the WELL (blue round circle) on the map, not far (20 meters) 
>> from the mass graves, where 700 thousand rotten corpses were buried.
> 
>    How did you derive the 20 meters estimate?

It's in the dumb Jew, Arad's book!
Read it idiot.
> 
>> Map shows 7 large and small mass graves, when it would've take at least 
>> 18 olimpic size swimming pools to contain 700 thousand bodies.
> 
>    How did you derive this estimate?

Simple math moron, just multiply one human cubic volume by 700 thousand.
Of course ignorant Jews can't do that, that's why they draw inaccurate 
maps and lie inflated numbers of dead to the world!!!
JS

> 
> RJ.


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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be Protagonist wrote
>          in message : 
> 
>> Roger wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>> I read papers and watch PBS. I guess you're not!
> 
>>>>>>> Guess I'm not, what?  Just going to take your word for it?
> 
>>>>>> Guess you don't watch PBS, do ya Roger?
> 
>>>>> Like most of your guesses, completely wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> What documentary are you claiming proves "julius'" crap?
> 
>>>> Maybe you can start here, Buba!
> 
>>> Well, I could, if it even began to support your crap about a tenfold
>>> increase, all from immigration.
> 
>>>> Did a quick search!
>>>> http://www.goethe.de/ges/rel/dos/jul/en1418155.htm
> 
>>> You really should *read* your sources:  the only numbers mentioned
>>> here are a four-fold increase since the wall fell.
> 
>> I was referring to the TV show and News paper article I read. 
> 
> And offered this site as support.

This site shows 25 thousand Jewish population when the Wall fall and 100 
thousand now, idiot.
After the war Jewish population in the Germany was less than half of 
that 10,000.
So, that's easily 10 fold, TV show was right!
JS

> 
>> This website is only quick find.
> 
> Which doesn't support your lies.
> 
>> Told you, do your own research, lazy!
> 
> And I told you:  *your* claim, *your* burden of proof.


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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be Protagonist wrote
>          in message : 
> 
>> Holocau$t needs legal protection, they putting people to jail to protected.
> 
> No it doesn't, as demonstrated by the fact that the vast majority of
> the world does not have such laws, and yet the normative understanding
> is basically the same everywhere.

Really? So you saying, no denier is in jail at this moment any where in 
the world?
JS


> 
>> It shows what a fraud it is.
> 
> No, what a fraud *you* are.


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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be Protagonist wrote
>          in message : 
> 
>> torresD wrote:
> 
>>> http://shamash.org/holocaust/photos/
> 
>> It's all propaganda. You photos don't prove anything.
> 
> Actually, this is correct:  photos, all by themselves prove little.
> 
> That's why it is necessary to have documentary or testimonial evidence
> in addition.
> 
> And that evidence, taken ***as a whole*** is what proves the normative
> understanding of the Holocaust.
> 
>> I can take pictures of the local creama and fabricate stories about a 
>> Holocaust that happened in my local town, long as I can have powerful 
>> people behind me, to back me up.
> 
> Of course, those "powerful people" would have to all agree to lie, and
> get others to lie (even those for whom lying would be not in their
> best interest) and none of these people would be *ever* able to spill
> the beans on the lie, while forging documents and planting physical
> evidence, including human remains...

Right! Problem with the Jewish Holohoax is the human remains.
Typhus victims of the labor camps disguised as gassed, executed, 
starved, tortured victims.
JS


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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be Protagonist wrote
>          in message : 
> 
>> Roger wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> Did you read the part toward the end where Wiernik claimed he was shot?
>>>>>>> Yep, the bullet passed through his clothes but didn't penetrate the
>>>>>>> skin. Holocaust historians use Wiernik as a credible source, so it must
>>>>>>> be true 
> 
>>>>>> Aside from your ability to sneer, have you anything that says this
>>>>>> could *not* have happened?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Free hint:  how far away was the shooter?
> 
>>>>> Roger baba, are you stupid again?
>>>>> People die from gun shots,  fired vertically in the air miles away.
> 
>>>> I'm surprised he hasn't demanded that you calculate the terminal velocity of
>>>> a falling bullet and then demand proof that such a speed of decent were
>>>> capable of killing someone. 
> 
>>> No, I'm content to point out that both of your are running from
>>> answering the question "how far away was the shooter," which is
>>> critical to your sneers that this story is impossible.
> 
>> It's not mentioned, but had to be in eyesight, since the guard shoot at 
>> the prisoner and was able to hit him.
> 
> And how far away is that?

Ask your lying Jew eyewitness!
> 
>> My small 22 cal rifle has a range up to 1 1/2 mile and I wouldn't stand 
>> in front of it. 
> 
> And would you stand a mile and one foot short of a half in front of
> it, wearing several layers of clothes?

No!
> 
>> I pop glass bottles and cans from hundred yards.
>> Regan was shot with a small 22 cal pistol three times and  was lucky no 
>> vital organ was hit.


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Dan Barkye wrote:
> Wikipedia is much better than other encyclopedias that I consulted, 
> more, much more detailed, in any entry.
> 
> Also, in some measure, the enc's are inaccurate in themselves, as 
> dictionaries are too, and slanted also in some measure, according to its 
> writers and publishers.
> 
> Dan
> 

It's accurate to you, since Jews can edit it as pleased.
JS


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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>          in message : 
> 
>> Dan Barkye wrote:
> 
>>> So you admit that there were simply Jews who happened to be Commies,
>>> right? Okay then. I thought so.
> 
>> In the same way that their were Nazi's who happen to be Gentiles.
> 
> So your claim is that the Communists wouldn't allow gentile
> participation, is it?
> 
> You *do* realize how stupid that is, right?
> 
>>> This is why there were in the Red Army (in the 1917-1920 war in Russia
>>> between the Bolsheviks and the (Russian) White Army) Germans, Chinese,
>>> Georgians (Stalin), at least one American (the journalist Reed) and so
>>> many others.
> 
>> You may want to go back and look at the names of the New York bankers who
>> financed much of the revolution. 
> 
> And you may want to stop swallowing uncritically the lies told you by
> other haters.

Haha! Roger grew up in communism, he must know it all!
Right Roger?
Seems any where communism strikes it's feet, Jewish terrorist are behind it.
Hungary: 1919 Red revolution, Kun Bela Jew
          1948 Communist gov. Rakosi Matyas and his terror gang, Jews
	These Jews even killed each other, see execution of Laszlo Rajk
"Rajk was to be made an example for the beginning of Stalin's 
anti-Titoist purges. Rajk, along with the other eighteen men, was 
sentenced to execution and his trial would mark one of the most ruthless 
events in Hungarian history until the purge trials of Rudolf Sl nskě and 
others in 1952."

JS





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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be Protagonist wrote
>          in message <48mdneR779EpKyzZnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@comcast.com>: 
> 
>> Roger wrote:
> 
>>>>> So you admit that there were simply Jews who happened to be Commies,
>>>>> right? Okay then. I thought so.
> 
>>>> In the same way that their were Nazi's who happen to be Gentiles.
> 
>>> So your claim is that the Communists wouldn't allow gentile
>>> participation, is it?
> 
>>> You *do* realize how stupid that is, right?
> 
>>>>> This is why there were in the Red Army (in the 1917-1920 war in Russia
>>>>> between the Bolsheviks and the (Russian) White Army) Germans, Chinese,
>>>>> Georgians (Stalin), at least one American (the journalist Reed) and so
>>>>> many others.
> 
>>>> You may want to go back and look at the names of the New York bankers who
>>>> financed much of the revolution. 
> 
>>> And you may want to stop swallowing uncritically the lies told you by
>>> other haters.
> 
>> Haha! Roger grew up in communism, he must know it all!
>> Right Roger?
> 
> Not even close, idiot julius.
> 
>> Seems any where communism strikes it's feet, Jewish terrorist are behind it.
> 
> It might seem that way to a hate filled idiot like yourself, but most
> people understand that this is simply a delusion.


Only hate what's there, is coming from you toward gentiles, dumb Roger.
JS



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In the final game, Italy-France, was played in Berlin stadium, same 
place where the 1936 Olympics held!
Jesse Owens name was mentioned number of times and how the Negro duped 
Hitler, by winning 4 Gold medals.
What a BS, Jew propaganda!
Here we go again, Jew propaganda try to make the 1936 Olympics, if it 
was all about Jesse Owens, like the Holohoax, if that's what WW2  was 
all about.
They forget to tell the world and the young minds, 1936 Olympics was won 
by Germany and the US was only third in over all medal counts.
When Mr. Negro Owens came back to the US, no one gave a crap about him.
He was running against horses to make a living.
Couldn't even get a job with his 4 Gold medal.
JS


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Ron Jacobson wrote:
>    Hiya Benjie,
> 
>    Not long ago,  you quoted Faurisson (who used to teach
> literature in college) as an "authority" on chemistry.  You
> relied on his article in which he asserted that the corpses
> of the victims of the gas chamber would be "dangerous to
> handle" because "HCN would stick to them".
> 
>    I just wanted to inform you that Faurisson's claim is
> so utterly moronic that even other deniers are rejecting
> it.  This was posted a few days ago by Friedrich Berg:
> 
>    
> 
>    This text is only a problem for revisionist Dr. Robert
> Faurisson who has mistakenly insisted that the bodies would
> have been "saturated" with cyanide. 
> 
>    
> 
>    (Message-ID: <1152317407.962318.58750@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>)
> 
>    Just thought you'd like to know.
> 
> Cheers,  RJ.

Also, in Treblinka 700 thousand prisoners was killed in 6 months, with 
fumes of one Soviet diesel engine, buried in 6 grave pits, when it needs 
18 swimming pool size pits for all that bodies to hold the least.
Than later all the rotten corpses were dug up and cremated on open fire.
Bones were also crushed, than re-buried.
Gee, what a mass!!??
Only Jews can invent stories like that.
JS


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Kurt Knoll wrote:
> I do like all kinds of people and this also includes Negroes. For me they 
> are all human beings and no single race has a monopolie on this. If one 
> could let the race card out life could be a better place for all of us to 
> live in.
> 
> Kurt Knoll.

French soccer team looked very pretty, all Negro, maybe 3 whites.
It's like the Nigerian  team would be all Asian looking or all whites.

JS


> 
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
> news:P6ednZ7ZVM2UgC7ZnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> In the final game, Italy-France, was played in Berlin stadium, same place 
>> where the 1936 Olympics held!
>> Jesse Owens name was mentioned number of times and how the Negro duped 
>> Hitler, by winning 4 Gold medals.
>> What a BS, Jew propaganda!
>> Here we go again, Jew propaganda try to make the 1936 Olympics, if it was 
>> all about Jesse Owens, like the Holohoax, if that's what WW2  was all 
>> about.
>> They forget to tell the world and the young minds, 1936 Olympics was won 
>> by Germany and the US was only third in over all medal counts.
>> When Mr. Negro Owens came back to the US, no one gave a crap about him.
>> He was running against horses to make a living.
>> Couldn't even get a job with his 4 Gold medal.
>> JS 
> 
> 


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I didn't know before, Jews don't shake hand with woman?
So much for equality, eh?
Here is a video, Lamperth Monika, Hungarian Internal Minister talking to 
some Jews.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=lamperth+monika
JS


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Ron Jacobson wrote:
> In article <1152572928.449824.202590@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>,
> Dr. Gassen Burnham  wrote:
> 
>> Ron Jacobson wrote:
> 
>>>    Dopehead,  you continue to ignore that the open-air
>>> cremation -- which you assert is "physically impossible" --
>>> worked very well in Dresden.
> 
>> Again, Ronnie twangs the old elastic band of fidelity.
>>
>> The yid ingrate claims the stories wrt Dresden are all lies, 
> 
>    No,  only most of them.  The open-air cremation of 6,500
> corpses is definitely true,  and backed by photographs and
> documents.
> 
> RJ.

What does it proof?
People died in disease, typhus, some how had get rid of the bodies.
Why don't you take pictures of the cremation of Indonesian tsunami
victims and 30 years later show the world as a Holocaust in process.
Any one can do that and collect money over it.
JS




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Patrick Keenan wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message
> news:XIudndrej4Dm3S7ZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> I didn't know before,
> 
> And you still don't know.
> 
>> Jews don't shake hand with woman?
> 
> Only Orthodox Jews, and it refers to people they aren't married or otherwise
> related to.
> 
> Many Muslims have much stricter attitudes - you can't even *look* at their
> women.
> 
> Of course, you're only critical of Jews.

Problem is, we only here about the Muslims or Talibans in the news and 
media, but not the Jews.
As Marlon Brando said and he is 100% correct:
BRANDO: "Hollywood is run by Jews; it is owned by Jews, and they should 
have a greater sensitivity about the issue of -- of people who are 
suffering. Because they've exploited -- we have seen the -- we have seen 
the Nigger and Greaseball, we've seen the Chink, we've seen the 
slit-eyed dangerous Jap, we have seen the wily Filipino, we've seen 
everything but we never saw the Kike. Because they knew perfectly well, 
that that is where you draw the wagons around."
Js


> 
>> So much for equality, eh?
> 
> It  doesn't mean anything about equality.
> 
> -pk
> 
>> Here is a video, Lamperth Monika, Hungarian Internal Minister talking to
>> some Jews.
>> http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=lamperth+monika
>> JS
> 
> 


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Curly C wrote:
> """""""It actually says "forced march""""""""
> 
> It says forced march in small print below the photo, but above the photo
> in large print it says Dachau Death March. 
> 
What do you think? What would've been chance of survivors of these 
people, if they were transfered by train?
Meaning, German transportation was under constant Ally bombardments and 
attack.
How about those who were left behind in Auschwitz?
After liberation, Russian soldiers raped all the woman in the camp and 
many Russian POW's were executed or send back to the Gulags.
They were useless for the Soviet state.
JS



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Kurt Knoll wrote:
> I do like all kinds of people and this also includes Negroes. For me they 
> are all human beings and no single race has a monopolie on this. If one 
> could let the race card out life could be a better place for all of us to 
> live in.
> 
> Kurt Knoll.
> 
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
> news:P6ednZ7ZVM2UgC7ZnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> In the final game, Italy-France, was played in Berlin stadium, same place 
>> where the 1936 Olympics held!
>> Jesse Owens name was mentioned number of times and how the Negro duped 
>> Hitler, by winning 4 Gold medals.
>> What a BS, Jew propaganda!
>> Here we go again, Jew propaganda try to make the 1936 Olympics, if it was 
>> all about Jesse Owens, like the Holohoax, if that's what WW2  was all 
>> about.
>> They forget to tell the world and the young minds, 1936 Olympics was won 
>> by Germany and the US was only third in over all medal counts.
>> When Mr. Negro Owens came back to the US, no one gave a crap about him.
>> He was running against horses to make a living.
>> Couldn't even get a job with his 4 Gold medal.
>> JS 
> 
> 

Than, how come the Italian team had no blacks on the soccer team?
France is primely a white European country, why they need a 90% Negro 
team to play for them, tell me?
Is there a massage for the world from the Free masons?

I don't see the Korean team had any white or black playing for them, 
never mind 90% of the team white or black?!
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/team/squad.html?team=KOR

Here is the Croation team, all white:
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/team/squad.html?team=CRO

Here is the Italian team, I guess no color people lives in Italy, eh?
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/team/squad.html?team=ITA
JS

JS


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flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:
> On 11-Jul-2006, gilgames  wrote:
> 
>> <<
>> He did? I only read soc.culture.magyar and I see the follow ups. I'm
>> just answering one to you. So you may be a simple liar? Did YOU call
>> someone dishonest?
>>  >>
>>
>> The person who puts here the Holocaust calendar by provocation regularly.
>>
>> Innocent Hungarian people, those who born after the Holocaust  based on
>> collective responsibiolity pay restoration for the survivors of the
>> Holocaust victim. No one pays anything not even the aknowledgement of
>> the culpability fot the other sixteen times more victims of the 20th
>> Century. THis is evil abuse.
> 
> How is it abuse to remind people that some of their own were murdered by
> Nazis?
> Or are yo uoe of those who foolishly believe
> 
> a) only Jews were killed in the Holocaust
> b) being Jewish makes one "non-nationalistic"?
> 
> Susan

How about the theft from the Hungarian people, during and after the war 
by the Soviets and their communist puppets!!!!
Talking here machinery, factories, land, reparation payment for the next 
30 years, all property nationalized etc... hole nation was slaving for 
nothing. Good monthly salary would by a worker a dinner at cheap restaurant.
You bring here a few thousand Jews who lost their personal properties 
during the war, like art, gold, jewelry etc... which later was stolen by 
the allies by hijacking the Hungarian train, never be found.
JS




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MedvE wrote:
> gilgames skrev:
> 
>> <<
>> I don´t know the details. But if people inherited gods or money or
>> other wealth that was taken from the victims, and gave them profit or
>> wealth in 50 years, than they can at least return the originally stolen
>> gods or money? What gives them right to posess those?
>>  >>
>>
>> The Jewish Good were given to the Germans, and for the order of the
>> Potsdam threaty the rest after the war were given to the Soviet Union.
>> Galitians demant restitutions from the Hungarians who born after the
>> war. Not from those who posses itt (in any way the majority of that
>> goods were lost in the War started by France and England) but from
>> definiteli innocent people who never had seen that goods. This is robbery.
> 
> Is that so? I hade a neighbor/friend whos family owned a small house in
> Zuglo. 

You mean you had a Jew friend and you are a Jew also! He, LaszloKuka!?
You all ways denied it you are a Jew, but now you're showing your real 
face, lier LaszloKuka!


The house was confiscated by a "cross arrow" wearing nazi and
> his family. After the war he managed to change book to red, made some
> carrier in the communist party. He is dead now, but his family still
> "owns" the house, which was given to them by the authorities 1944. The
> returning remains of the original family never received any
> compensation for their goods or anything else. 

Well, than they should've complain to the communist.
If your Jew friend had any real paper work proving the property were 
owned by them, don't see how they couldn't get it back?!
When my parents died and we had to settle property issues with my 
family, I was very surprised how much detailed information was there 
about our property at the recording office. Even about the previous 
owner who built the house 60 years ago and how was it purchased by my 
father. How much shares each family member had in it, even the one died 
( my brother) and was transfered to others.
I think your story is fishy, unless property records are lost in the war 
(not likely) and your Jew friend lost the papers proving the ownership 
to the property. Too many if-if-if, coincidences.
Maybe the local church has some records about it for proof.
I can understand valuables like Jewelry, paintings etc... has little 
proof, unless it was insured, but a house or land is recorded 10 
different ways and during wars, disasters records are moved to safe places.
JS


Do you really find it
> right, because the owners today did not have take any active part of
> the events? (They were just children at that time) ???
> 
> Or you are just a narrowminded notoriouse jewhater liar?
> 
> / LaszloK
> 


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MedvE wrote:
> gilgames skrev:
> 
>> <<
>> I don´t know the details. But if people inherited gods or money or
>> other wealth that was taken from the victims, and gave them profit or
>> wealth in 50 years, than they can at least return the originally stolen
>> gods or money? What gives them right to posess those?
>>  >>
>>
>> The Jewish Good were given to the Germans, and for the order of the
>> Potsdam threaty the rest after the war were given to the Soviet Union.
>> Galitians demant restitutions from the Hungarians who born after the
>> war. Not from those who posses itt (in any way the majority of that
>> goods were lost in the War started by France and England) but from
>> definiteli innocent people who never had seen that goods. This is robbery.
> 
> Is that so? I hade a neighbor/friend whos family owned a small house in
> Zuglo. The house was confiscated by a "cross arrow" wearing nazi and
> his family. After the war he managed to change book to red, made some
> carrier in the communist party. He is dead now, but his family still
> "owns" the house, which was given to them by the authorities 1944. The
> returning remains of the original family never received any
> compensation for their goods or anything else. Do you really find it
> right, because the owners today did not have take any active part of
> the events? (They were just children at that time) ???
> 
> Or you are just a narrowminded notoriouse jewhater liar?
> 
> / LaszloK
> 
How about those poor Palestinian families, who's property gets 
bulldozered or blown up  by Jew, Israel? Do they get compensated?
Just watch the news lately, bulldozers are all ready lined up to enter 
Gaza city to do their job!

http://english.people.com.cn/200207/26/eng20020726_100397.shtml
JS


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Kurt Knoll wrote:
> France did have colonies in northern Africa and I do not believe these guys 
> are imports. Many of them were born and raised in France.
> 
> Kurt Knoll.

So as Italy!
JS

> 
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
> news:Oe2dnWsVI7HANynZnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
>>> I do like all kinds of people and this also includes Negroes. For me they 
>>> are all human beings and no single race has a monopolie on this. If one 
>>> could let the race card out life could be a better place for all of us to 
>>> live in.
>>>
>>> Kurt Knoll.
>>>
>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>>> news:P6ednZ7ZVM2UgC7ZnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> In the final game, Italy-France, was played in Berlin stadium, same 
>>>> place where the 1936 Olympics held!
>>>> Jesse Owens name was mentioned number of times and how the Negro duped 
>>>> Hitler, by winning 4 Gold medals.
>>>> What a BS, Jew propaganda!
>>>> Here we go again, Jew propaganda try to make the 1936 Olympics, if it 
>>>> was all about Jesse Owens, like the Holohoax, if that's what WW2  was 
>>>> all about.
>>>> They forget to tell the world and the young minds, 1936 Olympics was won 
>>>> by Germany and the US was only third in over all medal counts.
>>>> When Mr. Negro Owens came back to the US, no one gave a crap about him.
>>>> He was running against horses to make a living.
>>>> Couldn't even get a job with his 4 Gold medal.
>>>> JS
>>>
>> Than, how come the Italian team had no blacks on the soccer team?
>> France is primely a white European country, why they need a 90% Negro team 
>> to play for them, tell me?
>> Is there a massage for the world from the Free masons?
>>
>> I don't see the Korean team had any white or black playing for them, never 
>> mind 90% of the team white or black?!
>> http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/team/squad.html?team=KOR
>>
>> Here is the Croation team, all white:
>> http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/team/squad.html?team=CRO
>>
>> Here is the Italian team, I guess no color people lives in Italy, eh?
>> http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/team/squad.html?team=ITA
>> JS
>>
>> JS 
> 
> 


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desireecousteaucanada@hotmail.com wrote:
> "outed" as an alleged war criminal?  It sounds like he died with a cock
> up his arse........the usual Nazi scum death!
> 
> Fuck 'em & 7 'em in spades!

Mr. Polgar was a hero, dick head Jew fucker!
Jews were rounded up in Hungary, for the same reason why the USA rounded 
up Jap-Americans during the war.
Jews were security problem, collaborators to the approaching Soviet army!
You no nothing moron!
JS


> 
> 
> 127.0.0.1 wrote:
>> Accused Nazi Polgar dies
>> July 13, 2006
>>
>> A MELBOURNE man accused of genocide during World War II has died.
>> Lajos Polgar was a member of Hungary's Arrow Cross, which was allied to the
>> Nazis and responsible for the deaths of two Jews in Budapest during the
>> war.
>>
>> He died suddenly on Saturday night, aged 89.
>>
>> The exact cause of death is unknown but the circumstances were not
>> suspicious.
>>
>> Leading Nazi hunter Dr Efraim Zuroff, director of the Jerusalem bureau of
>> the Los Angeles-based Simon Wiesenthal Centre, claimed in February that
>> fresh evidence linked Mr Polgar with the atrocities committed by the Arrow
>> Cross.
>>
>> Dr Zuroff said he was intensely disappointed that Mr Polgar died before
>> being thoroughly investigated.
>>
>> "It's very frustrating, to put it mildly," he said.
>>
>> "But this man should go down publicly as what he was - someone who was
>> involved in the genocide and murder of Jews."
>>
>> The Australian Federal Police recently dropped its case against Mr Polgar,
>> citing insufficient evidence, while the Hungarian National Bureau of
>> Investigations turned up no key evidence.
>>
>> Mr Polgar's son Lou said his father was innocent of war crimes, and was not
>> aware of any torture or killing.
>>
>> He said the stress of being "outed" as an alleged war criminal had played a
>> big part in his death.
>>
>> "It weighed on him like a bloody lead anchor," he said.
>>
>> http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...-29277,00.html
> 


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Ordog wrote:
> 127.0.0.1 wrote:
> 
>> Accused Nazi Polgar dies
>> July 13, 2006
>>
>> A MELBOURNE man accused of genocide during World War II has died.
>> Lajos Polgar was a member of Hungary's Arrow Cross, which was allied to the
>> Nazis and responsible for the deaths of two Jews in Budapest during the
>> war.
> 
> Well, he may or may not have done what he was accused of on which I do
> not even want to speculate.
> In any case it is high time to close the WW2 files.
> 
> However that does not mean we should rewrite history or refuse to learn
> from past mistakes.
> 
> Here are some  facts:
> 
> The Arrow Cross Party (Nyilas Párt) of Hungary was truly a despeakable
> organisation. It was created to do the bidding of the nazis specially
> after the country was occupied by German forces in March 1944
> (eyewitness accounts:
> http://www.hungarian-history.hu/lib/baross/baross07.htm and
> http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/wooton/34/horthy/20.html)
> The Hungarian extreme right including the Nyilas Párt did take part in
> attrocities against the Jews, Gypsies, socialist, social democrats,
> communists and all those who were inclined to reach a peace deal with
> the Allied Powers. Memebership in the Nyilas Párt however was by no
> means compulsory so those who joined up really meant business.
> 
> Anyone who would like to see how such parties can twist reality to
> justify their political ideology should look at this website riddled
> with blatant lies and stupid mistakes: http://fmsa.dote.hu/hungary.html
> 
> I can well imagine that Lajos Polgar certainly had some skeletons in
> his cupboard even if he did not kill anyone directly.
> 
> Ördög
> Either the neocons go or civilisation does!
> 

  http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/wooton/34/horthy/20.html)
 >>While I was in charge, they could not attempt putting the Arrow-Cross 
Party into office to do their deadly work of murdering Hungarian 
patriots, of exterminating the 800,000 Hungarian Jews and the tens of 
thousands of refugees who had sought sanctuary in Hungary. It would have 
been easier for me to make the great gesture of<<<

800,000 Hungarian Jews???? LOLOLOL!
Even the Jewish inflated Holohoax number from Hungary is half of that!
LOL!
JS



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Ordog wrote:
> 127.0.0.1 wrote:
> 
>> Accused Nazi Polgar dies
>> July 13, 2006
>>
>> A MELBOURNE man accused of genocide during World War II has died.
>> Lajos Polgar was a member of Hungary's Arrow Cross, which was allied to the
>> Nazis and responsible for the deaths of two Jews in Budapest during the
>> war.
> 
> Well, he may or may not have done what he was accused of on which I do
> not even want to speculate.
> In any case it is high time to close the WW2 files.
> 
> However that does not mean we should rewrite history or refuse to learn
> from past mistakes.
> 
> Here are some  facts:
> 
> The Arrow Cross Party (Nyilas Párt) of Hungary was truly a despeakable
> organisation. It was created to do the bidding of the nazis specially
> after the country was occupied by German forces in March 1944
> (eyewitness accounts:
> http://www.hungarian-history.hu/lib/baross/baross07.htm and
> http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/wooton/34/horthy/20.html)

> The Hungarian extreme right including the Nyilas Párt did take part in
> attrocities against the Jews, Gypsies, socialist, social democrats,
> communists and all those who were inclined to reach a peace deal with
> the Allied Powers. 

LOL! Can you detail this wild statement above?!

Memebership in the Nyilas Párt however was by no
> means compulsory so those who joined up really meant business.
> 
> Anyone who would like to see how such parties can twist reality to
> justify their political ideology should look at this website riddled
> with blatant lies and stupid mistakes: http://fmsa.dote.hu/hungary.html
> 
> I can well imagine that Lajos Polgar certainly had some skeletons in
> his cupboard even if he did not kill anyone directly.

Arrow cross fought the Soviets to the last drop of blood, they were 
heroes , no matter how you smear your crap here.
JS

> 
> Ördög
> Either the neocons go or civilisation does!
> 


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Macabee wrote:
> Protagonist wrote:
>> desireecousteaucanada@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> "outed" as an alleged war criminal?  It sounds like he died with a cock
>>> up his arse........the usual Nazi scum death!
>>>
>>> Fuck 'em & 7 'em in spades!
>> Mr. Polgar was a hero, dick head Jew fucker!
>> Jews were rounded up in Hungary, for the same reason why the USA rounded
>> up Jap-Americans during the war.
>> Jews were security problem, collaborators to the approaching Soviet army!
>> You no nothing moron!
>> JS
>>
>>
> Well, what do you "no":-)
> 
> For war it's worth, of all groups in WW I, the Jews had the highest
> level of
> registration in the German Military.  I guess you didn't "no" that.
> 
LOL! To sit behind the desk to count the war dead!
JS


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Ordog wrote:
> Protagonist wrote:
> 
>> desireecousteaucanada@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> "outed" as an alleged war criminal?  It sounds like he died with a cock
>>> up his arse........the usual Nazi scum death!
>>>
>>> Fuck 'em & 7 'em in spades!
>> Mr. Polgar was a hero, dick head Jew fucker!
>> Jews were rounded up in Hungary, for the same reason why the USA rounded
>> up Jap-Americans during the war.
>> Jews were security problem, collaborators to the approaching Soviet army!
>> You no nothing moron!
> 
> An interesting take on history.
> Care to patent it?

> 
> Ördög
> Either the neocons go or civilisation does!
> PS: Kérem, normális maga?
> 

Ordogocske, te meg tok hulye vagy! Tanuld meg az igazi tortenelmet!
JS


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MedvE wrote:
> Protagonist skrev:
> 
> 
>> You mean you had a Jew friend and you are a Jew also! He, LaszloKuka!?
>> You all ways denied it you are a Jew, but now you're showing your real
>> face, lier LaszloKuka!
>>
> 
> You are most definitely an idiot. Now I have a neighbor, a christian
> arab from Lebanon. Does it make me a christian? Or an arab?
> Do you have any brain in your skull?
> 
> And anyway, I wouldn't be ashamed to be a jew. Or Irish.... or greek...
> or a negro or whatever...  who the hell does really mind besides some
> nazis like you?
> 
> / LaszloK
> 

That's not the question retard! You've been asked before, if you are 
were a Jew, because you sympathies with them 100%, you denied it.
Now you yeping about a Jewish friend/neighbor, so you must have lived in 
Jewish neighbor hood, since they tend to live with their own clan, eh?
JS



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flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:
> On 11-Jul-2006, Protagonist  wrote:
> 
>> MedvE wrote:
>>> gilgames skrev:
>>>
>>>> <<
>>>> I don´t know the details. But if people inherited gods or money or
>>>> other wealth that was taken from the victims, and gave them profit or
>>>> wealth in 50 years, than they can at least return the originally stolen
>>>> gods or money? What gives them right to posess those?
>>>>  >>
>>>>
>>>> The Jewish Good were given to the Germans, and for the order of the
>>>> Potsdam threaty the rest after the war were given to the Soviet Union.
>>>> Galitians demant restitutions from the Hungarians who born after the
>>>> war. Not from those who posses itt (in any way the majority of that
>>>> goods were lost in the War started by France and England) but from
>>>> definiteli innocent people who never had seen that goods. This is
>>>> robbery.
>>> Is that so? I hade a neighbor/friend whos family owned a small house in
>>> Zuglo. The house was confiscated by a "cross arrow" wearing nazi and
>>> his family. After the war he managed to change book to red, made some
>>> carrier in the communist party. He is dead now, but his family still
>>> "owns" the house, which was given to them by the authorities 1944. The
>>> returning remains of the original family never received any
>>> compensation for their goods or anything else. Do you really find it
>>> right, because the owners today did not have take any active part of
>>> the events? (They were just children at that time) ???
>>>
>>> Or you are just a narrowminded notoriouse jewhater liar?
>>>
>>> / LaszloK
>>>
>> How about those poor Palestinian families, who's property gets
>> bulldozered or blown up  by Jew, Israel?
> 
> How about just asmitting that not only are you wrong, but you do not
> know what you are talking about, and that you obviusly hate Jews, to
> equate Israel with Jews, especially in this negative sense?
> 
>> Do they get compensated?
> 
> Since the only reasons a house gets bulldozed or blown up is because
> the house was illegally built (like Israeli homes get destroyed) or was a
> base for terrorism (bomb factory, sniper's nest, tunnelling....), no, of
> course there is no compensation. These people are lucky to not get
> jailed into the bargain.
> 
>> Just watch the news lately, bulldozers are all ready lined up to enter
>> Gaza city to do their job!
> 
> About time, considering that they've been shooting rockets out of Gaza
> for MONTHS now, ever since they were given it in exchange for peace.

Right! Are you denying Israel stealing their land since 1948, building 
walls etc...

> 
> 
> Susan
>> http://english.people.com.cn/200207/26/eng20020726_100397.shtml
>> JS

So you denying in WW2 Jews were NOT collaborator with the Soviets, 
communist, never taken arms as partizans against the Axis etc.... 
(reminds you Tito had some 30 thousands Jew partizens) ????
JS


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Ordog wrote:
> Protagonist wrote:
>> Ordog wrote:
>>> Protagonist wrote:
> 
>>>>> Fuck 'em & 7 'em in spades!
>>>> Mr. Polgar was a hero, dick head Jew fucker!
>>>> Jews were rounded up in Hungary, for the same reason why the USA rounded
>>>> up Jap-Americans during the war.
>>>> Jews were security problem, collaborators to the approaching Soviet army!
>>>> You no nothing moron!
>>> An interesting take on history.
>>> Care to patent it?
> 
>>> Ördög
>>> Either the neocons go or civilisation does!
>>> PS: Kérem, normális maga?
> 
>> Ordogocske, te meg tok hulye vagy! Tanuld meg az igazi tortenelmet!
> 
> Rendben van. Csak megmondnád melyik valtozatát? Mert nagyon sok van
> ám!
> Ezt: http://fmsa.dote.hu/hungary.html?
> 
> Ördög
> Either the neocons go or civilisation does!
> 

Nezd meg a Trianon elotti nagy Magyarorszag terkepet es gondolkodjal el.
Nyilasokat akiket te szidsz azert harcoltak, annak a visszeszerzesert.
Hitler volt az egyetlen politikus aki a Wienna 1, 2 egyezmenyben 
Magyaroknak visszadta regi Magyar tartomanyok nagy reszet. Hitler volt a 
mi emberunk.
Olvassal revisinesm-rol es miert kell demokratikus orszagokban, 
Holocau$t megtagadokat bortonbe csukni?!
http://www.ihr.org/books/harwood/dsmrd01.html

HR szinten egy jo web-oldal, hogy tisztabban lasd a 20. szazad tortenelmet.
JS


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Ordog wrote:
> Protagonist wrote:
> 
>> Ordog wrote:
>>> 127.0.0.1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Accused Nazi Polgar dies
>>>> July 13, 2006
>>>>
>>>> A MELBOURNE man accused of genocide during World War II has died.
>>>> Lajos Polgar was a member of Hungary's Arrow Cross, which was allied to the
>>>> Nazis and responsible for the deaths of two Jews in Budapest during the
>>>> war.
>>> Well, he may or may not have done what he was accused of on which I do
>>> not even want to speculate.
>>> In any case it is high time to close the WW2 files.
>>>
>>> However that does not mean we should rewrite history or refuse to learn
>>> from past mistakes.
>>>
>>> Here are some  facts:
>>>
>>> The Arrow Cross Party (Nyilas Párt) of Hungary was truly a despeakable
>>> organisation. It was created to do the bidding of the nazis specially
>>> after the country was occupied by German forces in March 1944
>>> (eyewitness accounts:
>>> http://www.hungarian-history.hu/lib/baross/baross07.htm and
>>> http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/wooton/34/horthy/20.html)
>>> The Hungarian extreme right including the Nyilas Párt did take part in
>>> attrocities against the Jews, Gypsies, socialist, social democrats,
>>> communists and all those who were inclined to reach a peace deal with
>>> the Allied Powers. Memebership in the Nyilas Párt however was by no
>>> means compulsory so those who joined up really meant business.
>>>
>>> Anyone who would like to see how such parties can twist reality to
>>> justify their political ideology should look at this website riddled
>>> with blatant lies and stupid mistakes: http://fmsa.dote.hu/hungary.html
>>>
>>> I can well imagine that Lajos Polgar certainly had some skeletons in
>>> his cupboard even if he did not kill anyone directly.
>>>
>>> Ördög
>>> Either the neocons go or civilisation does!
>>>
>>   http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/wooton/34/horthy/20.html)
>>  >>While I was in charge, they could not attempt putting the Arrow-Cross
>> Party into office to do their deadly work of murdering Hungarian
>> patriots, of exterminating the 800,000 Hungarian Jews and the tens of
>> thousands of refugees who had sought sanctuary in Hungary. It would have
>> been easier for me to make the great gesture of<<<
>>
>> 800,000 Hungarian Jews???? LOLOLOL!
>> Even the Jewish inflated Holohoax number from Hungary is half of that!
>> LOL!
> 
> Well. I have not put any numbers to the discussion. But in vew of your
> comment you seem to be the one who is counting the dead not I.
> 
> Now tell us this: How many exterminated civilians, Jews (and other
> political opponents), do you regard acceptable and how many would you
> regard as unacceptable? As far as Horthy goes that man was a stupid
> moron, I dare to say. Obviously he had tried to wash dirty laundry in
> order to explain why he lead Hungary into such a badly loosing position
> going down the drain as an Axis ally.
> 
> Ördög
> "A bölcsészet tanára, amikor bebizonyitja, hogh egy emberek
> sincsenek természeti jogai, kénytelen a maga természeti jogait
> bebizonyitottnak tekinteni." Bernard Shaw
> 

As I see, you have a gross lack of knowledge of the Holocau$t, other 
than the standard Holohoax propaganda!
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v19/v19n4p19_Butz.html
On the 1944 Deportations of Hungarian Jews

Jews claim, some 400,000 Hungarian Jew was transported to Auschwitz and 
some other camps at the end of the war and most were killed, meaning 
80-90%, at arrival in so called gas-chambers(morgues, bomb shelters, 
delousing chambers...).
So, claiming 800 thousands is a bit of an over estimate, as all Holohoax 
claims are. IF you dive into the Holocau$t to learn more about it, as I 
did, you'll find lot of number juggling, throwing millions of death here 
or there to complete the 6 million overall figure claimed by Holocausters.
But Hortys memoirs has been translated to English, so inaccuracies can 
happen.
Even the 400 thousand is an over estimate, more like 250-300 thousands 
were transported to Auschwitz for labor. To claim most were killed 
immidietly(in 2 months, 7500 people/day) is a lie and an impossibility.
Than 1 month later, in September 44' the Red Cross visited Auschwitz and 
found every thing satisfactory at the camp. LOL!!!!
Red Cross had regural visits to these so called death camps, 
distributing packages! LOL
Auschwitz was also a distribution center to other camps, meaning some 
were kept, some moved on to other camps. Those moved on were not registered.
Jews claim, at arrival prisoners were selected, than woman, children, 
old and unfit to work were killed immidietly and not registered.
Auschwitz records, kept by the Soviets, showed some 95,000 registered 
death during the existence of the camp, 4 million changed to 1.1 million 
is written in front of the camp.
They miss-counted 3 million death! LOL!
http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/docs/controversies/deathroll/MHerald050492.html

OK! Research it yourself, good place to start is here:
http://www.ihr.org/books/harwood/dsmrd01.html
Did Six Million Really Die?

Jo szerencset!
JS



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Ordog wrote:
> Ron Jacobson wrote:
>> Ordog  wrote:
> 
>>    Just in case you want to know who you're dealing with,  this
>> is a typical post by "Protagonist" (whose real name is Julius
>> Szakacs) on alt.revisionism:
>>
>>    "Hitler should've finish your tribe off a long time ago,
>> bastards." -- Julius Szakacs ("Protagonist/Szaki"),  Message-ID:
>> .
> 
> Oh, I see!
> 
> Well now you can understand why Hungarians are such a bunch of bad
> loosers.

No, Hungarians are not, except history worked against us some times! But 
you are, if you believe Jews like Ron Jacobson!
He's a regular poster here of pictures of Holocau$t victims died in 
typhus and claimed were gassed and starved.
Beware of him, he is a lier.
JS


> Throughout history we have always made deals with the devil, 

What devil are you talking about?

deals that
> ended in disaster as one would expect yet made that us feel extremely
> offended and unhappy. But it had never deterred the nation to grab the
> very next similar deal handed down by those who had bad designs for the
> Hungarians.
> 
> The fact remains that Hungarian nazis are no different from any other
> sort.
> 
> Ördög
> Either the neocons go or civilisation does!
> 


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Ordog wrote:
> Protagonist wrote:
> 
>> Arrow cross fought the Soviets to the last drop of blood, they were
>> heroes , no matter how you smear your crap here.
> 
> Great. Look what it had brought for the country!
> Just imagine if they had won. The country would still be half
> feudalistic.
> 
> Ördög
> Either the neocons go or civilisation does!
> 
Grow up , kid! Communist brain wash you?
JS


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Ordog wrote:
> Protagonist wrote:
> 
>> Nezd meg a Trianon elotti nagy Magyarorszag terkepet es gondolkodjal el.
> 
> I suppose one could go back to year 1000 a.d. and fix all subsequent
> events according to one's liking.

Trianon was less than 100 years ago, what 1000 a.d. are you talking about?

> This would not actually change Hungary's present problems but that
> academic exercise might please those who prefer dream to reality.
> 
>> Nyilasokat akiket te szidsz azert harcoltak, annak a visszeszerzesert.
>> Hitler volt az egyetlen politikus aki a Wienna 1, 2 egyezmenyben
>> Magyaroknak visszadta regi Magyar tartomanyok nagy reszet. Hitler volt a
>> mi emberunk.
> 
> Fogadd el oszinte részvétem!
Te is, laccik meg gyerek vagy!

> A Harshegyen meg vannak üres szobák! Remelem hamar kigyógyulsz a
> szellemi betegségedböl.
LOL!

> 
>> Olvassal revisinesm-rol .....
> 
> Majd ha én is megbolondultam!
Laccik, inkabb bolond maradsz!
> 
>> ....es miert kell demokratikus orszagokban,
>> Holocau$t megtagadokat bortonbe csukni?!
> 
> Ne keverd össze azt ami megtörtént azzal ami most történik.
> There is always a cause and effect relationship in everything that
> happens in history. If you confuse effect with its cause you will never
> learn anything.

Past shows the way and teaches the future!

> 
>> HR szinten egy jo web-oldal, hogy tisztabban lasd a 20. szazad tortenelmet.
> 
> Thanks, but no thanks. I have had my fill of re-engineered history
> lessons to last for ten lifetimes.

You are too young not to change, but you will, as I did!
Nothing is permanent!
JS

> 
> Ördög
> Either the neocons go or civilisation does!
> 


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Ron Jacobson wrote:
>    (Followup-To: alt.revisionism)
> 
> In article ,
> Protagonist   wrote:
> 
>    (snip)
> 
>    In a report submitted to Himmler in May 1943,  SS
> Sturmbannfuehrer Franke-Gricksch wrote that so far 500,000
> Jews have been murdered in Auschwitz.  The entire report
> can be found,  e.g.,  in "Hitler and the Final Solution",
> G. Fleming,  University of California Press 1984,  p. 142-143. 

Written on old stolen German typewriters, by Jews, eh?
> 
>    The camp continued to operate until January 1945,  and
> altogether about 1.3 million people were murdered in it.

For 45 years 4 millions were claimed!!!! LOL!
> 
>    A sample of documents about the murder machinery in
> Auschwitz,  as well as some photographs,  can be seen at
> 
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/index.shtml
> 
> RJ.
> 

Nice fabrications RJ, as all ways! You like to full young minds like 
Ordog's!
Catch them while they young, eh?
JS


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glennchartrand@yahoo.ca wrote:
> Hey, Lace Curtains.....at least we didn't kill the
> Japanese/italian/German internees like the Nazi's & Japanese did to
> their p.o.w.'s or captives!

Right! You still wishing for the the Third nukes for Japan, ass hole?!
JS

> 
> I take it you're Heinrich's asshole buddy & another admirer of Ernst
> Zundel......both of whom are fat little homsexuals........your in good
> company!
> 
> Now piss off!
> 
> Kurt Knoll wrote:
>> I find it very interesting what you wrote here. In the time of war many
>> interesting things are happening here. In Canada for an example the Japanese
>> Canadians were expropriated and their property was sold at a slaughter
>> price. Many of them were born in Canada and did not have any contact with
>> Japan. Do me it does not come as a surprise having been born in Germany I
>> was a fair game for the Canadians in many ways.
>>
>> Kurt Knoll Kitimat British Columbia Canada.
>>
>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message
>> news:jM6dnZJb2ekzEijZnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> desireecousteaucanada@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> "outed" as an alleged war criminal?  It sounds like he died with a cock
>>>> up his arse........the usual Nazi scum death!
>>>>
>>>> Fuck 'em & 7 'em in spades!
>>> Mr. Polgar was a hero, dick head Jew fucker!
>>> Jews were rounded up in Hungary, for the same reason why the USA rounded
>>> up Jap-Americans during the war.
>>> Jews were security problem, collaborators to the approaching Soviet army!
>>> You no nothing moron!
>>> JS
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 127.0.0.1 wrote:
>>>>> Accused Nazi Polgar dies
>>>>> July 13, 2006
>>>>>
>>>>> A MELBOURNE man accused of genocide during World War II has died.
>>>>> Lajos Polgar was a member of Hungary's Arrow Cross, which was allied to
>>>>> the
>>>>> Nazis and responsible for the deaths of two Jews in Budapest during the
>>>>> war.
>>>>>
>>>>> He died suddenly on Saturday night, aged 89.
>>>>>
>>>>> The exact cause of death is unknown but the circumstances were not
>>>>> suspicious.
>>>>>
>>>>> Leading Nazi hunter Dr Efraim Zuroff, director of the Jerusalem bureau
>>>>> of
>>>>> the Los Angeles-based Simon Wiesenthal Centre, claimed in February that
>>>>> fresh evidence linked Mr Polgar with the atrocities committed by the
>>>>> Arrow
>>>>> Cross.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr Zuroff said he was intensely disappointed that Mr Polgar died before
>>>>> being thoroughly investigated.
>>>>>
>>>>> "It's very frustrating, to put it mildly," he said.
>>>>>
>>>>> "But this man should go down publicly as what he was - someone who was
>>>>> involved in the genocide and murder of Jews."
>>>>>
>>>>> The Australian Federal Police recently dropped its case against Mr
>>>>> Polgar,
>>>>> citing insufficient evidence, while the Hungarian National Bureau of
>>>>> Investigations turned up no key evidence.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mr Polgar's son Lou said his father was innocent of war crimes, and was
>>>>> not
>>>>> aware of any torture or killing.
>>>>>
>>>>> He said the stress of being "outed" as an alleged war criminal had
>>>>> played a
>>>>> big part in his death.
>>>>>
>>>>> "It weighed on him like a bloody lead anchor," he said.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...-29277,00.html
> 


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Ordog wrote:
> Protagonist wrote:
> 
>> Ordog wrote:
>>> 127.0.0.1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Accused Nazi Polgar dies
>>>> July 13, 2006
>>>>
>>>> A MELBOURNE man accused of genocide during World War II has died.
>>>> Lajos Polgar was a member of Hungary's Arrow Cross, which was allied to the
>>>> Nazis and responsible for the deaths of two Jews in Budapest during the
>>>> war.
>>> Well, he may or may not have done what he was accused of on which I do
>>> not even want to speculate.
>>> In any case it is high time to close the WW2 files.
>>>
>>> However that does not mean we should rewrite history or refuse to learn
>>> from past mistakes.
>>>
>>> Here are some  facts:
>>>
>>> The Arrow Cross Party (Nyilas Párt) of Hungary was truly a despeakable
>>> organisation. It was created to do the bidding of the nazis specially
>>> after the country was occupied by German forces in March 1944
>>> (eyewitness accounts:
>>> http://www.hungarian-history.hu/lib/baross/baross07.htm and
>>> http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/wooton/34/horthy/20.html)
>>> The Hungarian extreme right including the Nyilas Párt did take part in
>>> attrocities against the Jews, Gypsies, socialist, social democrats,
>>> communists and all those who were inclined to reach a peace deal with
>>> the Allied Powers. Memebership in the Nyilas Párt however was by no
>>> means compulsory so those who joined up really meant business.
>>>
>>> Anyone who would like to see how such parties can twist reality to
>>> justify their political ideology should look at this website riddled
>>> with blatant lies and stupid mistakes: http://fmsa.dote.hu/hungary.html
>>>
>>> I can well imagine that Lajos Polgar certainly had some skeletons in
>>> his cupboard even if he did not kill anyone directly.
>>>
>>> Ördög
>>> Either the neocons go or civilisation does!
>>>
>>   http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/wooton/34/horthy/20.html)
>>  >>While I was in charge, they could not attempt putting the Arrow-Cross
>> Party into office to do their deadly work of murdering Hungarian
>> patriots, of exterminating the 800,000 Hungarian Jews and the tens of
>> thousands of refugees who had sought sanctuary in Hungary. It would have
>> been easier for me to make the great gesture of<<<
>>
>> 800,000 Hungarian Jews???? LOLOLOL!
>> Even the Jewish inflated Holohoax number from Hungary is half of that!
>> LOL!
> 
> Well. I have not put any numbers to the discussion. But in vew of your
> comment you seem to be the one who is counting the dead not I.
> 
> Now tell us this: How many exterminated civilians, Jews (and other
> political opponents), do you regard acceptable and how many would you
> regard as unacceptable? As far as Horthy goes that man was a stupid
> moron, I dare to say. Obviously he had tried to wash dirty laundry in
> order to explain why he lead Hungary into such a badly loosing position
> going down the drain as an Axis ally.
> 
> Ördög
> "A bölcsészet tanára, amikor bebizonyitja, hogh egy emberek
> sincsenek természeti jogai, kénytelen a maga természeti jogait
> bebizonyitottnak tekinteni." Bernard Shaw
> 

4 ora video, Holocust hazugsagokrol!
Have a good time!!!

http://zamphir.litek.ws/
JS


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Ordog wrote:
> ataturkey wrote:
> 
>> Does that seem fair to you that while people accused of being Nazis are
>> hounded forever no similar action is taken against the Communists? Are
>> we being easy on the Communists because so many of them were Jews?
> 
> Hmmm.
> 
> There were certainly attrocities committed by the nazis.
> You are comparing them with attrocities committed by those that claimed
> to be communists but obviously weren't. I do not have problem putting
> them all on trial. Unlike the propaganda put out by the neo-nazi
> revisionists 
- WRONG!!!! -

only a small fraction of jews were actually communists
-WRONG!!!! -

as
> pre 1936 (and outside Germany even after that) most Jews preferred to
> trust Hitler 
- WRONG!!!!

rather than trusting the communists. A bad mistake for
> which so many ended up paying with their lives.
> 
> What you also so blatantly ignore is that while the nazi ideology
> directly resulted in extermination of whole ethnic populations,
  -WRONG AGAIN!

the
> communist ideology had to be perverted to the extreme to have similar
> effects.

-WRONG-

  Rossz konyveket olvasol gyerek!
JS

> 
> Ördög
> Either the neocons go or civilisation does!
> 


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glennchartrand@yahoo.ca wrote:
> Don't worry Nazi Boy......you'll probably end up dying also with a cock
> up your fat homo ass! By the way .....the German Nazi's used the
> Hungarians as bumboy's plain & simple & your so called "Mr. Polgar was
> a hero", was just another stooge!

..and you'll surly end up dying with the Free mason Washington monument 
up in your ass, Yankee boy.
JS


> 
> Protagonist wrote:
>> desireecousteaucanada@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> "outed" as an alleged war criminal?  It sounds like he died with a cock
>>> up his arse........the usual Nazi scum death!
>>>
>>> Fuck 'em & 7 'em in spades!
>> Mr. Polgar was a hero, dick head Jew fucker!
>> Jews were rounded up in Hungary, for the same reason why the USA rounded
>> up Jap-Americans during the war.
>> Jews were security problem, collaborators to the approaching Soviet army!
>> You no nothing moron!
>> JS
>>
>>
>>>
>>> 127.0.0.1 wrote:
>>>> Accused Nazi Polgar dies
>>>> July 13, 2006
>>>>
>>>> A MELBOURNE man accused of genocide during World War II has died.
>>>> Lajos Polgar was a member of Hungary's Arrow Cross, which was allied to the
>>>> Nazis and responsible for the deaths of two Jews in Budapest during the
>>>> war.
>>>>
>>>> He died suddenly on Saturday night, aged 89.
>>>>
>>>> The exact cause of death is unknown but the circumstances were not
>>>> suspicious.
>>>>
>>>> Leading Nazi hunter Dr Efraim Zuroff, director of the Jerusalem bureau of
>>>> the Los Angeles-based Simon Wiesenthal Centre, claimed in February that
>>>> fresh evidence linked Mr Polgar with the atrocities committed by the Arrow
>>>> Cross.
>>>>
>>>> Dr Zuroff said he was intensely disappointed that Mr Polgar died before
>>>> being thoroughly investigated.
>>>>
>>>> "It's very frustrating, to put it mildly," he said.
>>>>
>>>> "But this man should go down publicly as what he was - someone who was
>>>> involved in the genocide and murder of Jews."
>>>>
>>>> The Australian Federal Police recently dropped its case against Mr Polgar,
>>>> citing insufficient evidence, while the Hungarian National Bureau of
>>>> Investigations turned up no key evidence.
>>>>
>>>> Mr Polgar's son Lou said his father was innocent of war crimes, and was not
>>>> aware of any torture or killing.
>>>>
>>>> He said the stress of being "outed" as an alleged war criminal had played a
>>>> big part in his death.
>>>>
>>>> "It weighed on him like a bloody lead anchor," he said.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...-29277,00.html
> 


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Ordog wrote:
> Protagonist wrote:
>> Ordog wrote:
> 
>>>>    "Hitler should've finish your tribe off a long time ago,
>>>> bastards." -- Julius Szakacs ("Protagonist/Szaki"),  Message-ID:
>>>> .
> 
>>> Oh, I see!
>>> Well now you can understand why Hungarians are such a bunch of bad
>>> loosers.
> 
>> No, Hungarians are not, except history worked against us some times!
> 
> Yep. Making bad decisions at the wrong time and relying on bad allies
> is surely history's fault.

No! You think you are very smart, because 60 years later now you know 
the future.
> 
>> But
>> you are, if you believe Jews like Ron Jacobson!
>> He's a regular poster here of pictures of Holocau$t victims died in
>> typhus and claimed were gassed and starved.
> 
> As I said before! You should not confuse cause and effect. Typhus is a
> likely outcome if people are kept in an unhygenic environment (i.e.
> concentration camp)and treated like animals (death march, etc).

Wrong! Hygienic condition broke down in the camps at the end of war,  as 
the war was moving west, eastern camps had to be closed down, and 
inmates had to be moved to other camps creating overcrowded conditions.
Also, allies bombed transportations heavily in Germany, so food shipment 
was unreliable to labor camps.
After the war, Jews exploiting these conditions, extorting money as 
compensation for camp inmates as Holohcau$t survivors with the support 
of the Allies.
Exempt, communist East-Germany under Stalin orders never payed a penny 
for Holocau$t compensation to Jews.
I guess, for some reason there were no Nazi murderers, eh?!





> Starvation is the other likely outcome. In fact, typhus in itself does
> not make people resemble starved to death corpses. But I am sure
> someone in your camp had thought out some clever answer even for that.

The bone skinny dead bodies you see is the result of typhus. If you have 
typhus, food and water just pass through you, until you die, living a 
skeleton looking body.
Typhus was common in those days, spread by lice,flea,  tetu!
That's why they used Zyklon-B, for disinfection, not killing people..
> 
>> Beware of him, he is a lier.
> 
> I am very much aware of many things these days including Republicans,
> conservatives, racists, white supremacists, neo-nazis, neocons,
> Zionists, revisonists, terrorists and religious funadamentalist. Have I
> left out anything?
> 
>>> Throughout history we have always made deals with the devil,
> 
>> What devil are you talking about?
> 
> The one that's got into you!
Marha!!!
> 
> I think you need to study Hungarian history but not the nazi version of
> it!
Is there a Nazi version of history?

I grow up in Hungary, during the communism. You think they thought me 
Nazi history?

> Just imagine! Hungarian history did not start with the Szállasi
> putsch!

Not with Jewish version either, what you've been thinking is the truth!
JS

>  
> Ördög
> Either the neocons go or civilisation does!
> 


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glennchartrand@yahoo.ca wrote:
> Hey, Nazi Boy.......you can get a tinfoil hat from Heinrich!

Here's one for you,  look pretty in it, Jewsky!
Get a tin foil Torah too!
http://www.ericisgreat.com/tinfoilhats/kosher.jpg
or
  Item number: 190007658120	
JS


> 
> Protagonist wrote:
>> glennchartrand@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>> Don't worry Nazi Boy......you'll probably end up dying also with a cock
>>> up your fat homo ass! By the way .....the German Nazi's used the
>>> Hungarians as bumboy's plain & simple & your so called "Mr. Polgar was
>>> a hero", was just another stooge!
>> ..and you'll surly end up dying with the Free mason Washington monument
>> up in your ass, Yankee boy.
>> JS
>>
>>
>>> Protagonist wrote:
>>>> desireecousteaucanada@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>> "outed" as an alleged war criminal?  It sounds like he died with a cock
>>>>> up his arse........the usual Nazi scum death!
>>>>>
>>>>> Fuck 'em & 7 'em in spades!
>>>> Mr. Polgar was a hero, dick head Jew fucker!
>>>> Jews were rounded up in Hungary, for the same reason why the USA rounded
>>>> up Jap-Americans during the war.
>>>> Jews were security problem, collaborators to the approaching Soviet army!
>>>> You no nothing moron!
>>>> JS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 127.0.0.1 wrote:
>>>>>> Accused Nazi Polgar dies
>>>>>> July 13, 2006
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A MELBOURNE man accused of genocide during World War II has died.
>>>>>> Lajos Polgar was a member of Hungary's Arrow Cross, which was allied to the
>>>>>> Nazis and responsible for the deaths of two Jews in Budapest during the
>>>>>> war.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He died suddenly on Saturday night, aged 89.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The exact cause of death is unknown but the circumstances were not
>>>>>> suspicious.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Leading Nazi hunter Dr Efraim Zuroff, director of the Jerusalem bureau of
>>>>>> the Los Angeles-based Simon Wiesenthal Centre, claimed in February that
>>>>>> fresh evidence linked Mr Polgar with the atrocities committed by the Arrow
>>>>>> Cross.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dr Zuroff said he was intensely disappointed that Mr Polgar died before
>>>>>> being thoroughly investigated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "It's very frustrating, to put it mildly," he said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "But this man should go down publicly as what he was - someone who was
>>>>>> involved in the genocide and murder of Jews."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Australian Federal Police recently dropped its case against Mr Polgar,
>>>>>> citing insufficient evidence, while the Hungarian National Bureau of
>>>>>> Investigations turned up no key evidence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mr Polgar's son Lou said his father was innocent of war crimes, and was not
>>>>>> aware of any torture or killing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He said the stress of being "outed" as an alleged war criminal had played a
>>>>>> big part in his death.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "It weighed on him like a bloody lead anchor," he said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...-29277,00.html
> 


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MedvE wrote:
> Protagonist skrev:
> 
>> MedvE wrote:
>>> Protagonist skrev:
>>>
>>>
>>>> You mean you had a Jew friend and you are a Jew also! He, LaszloKuka!?
>>>> You all ways denied it you are a Jew, but now you're showing your real
>>>> face, lier LaszloKuka!
>>>>
>>> You are most definitely an idiot. Now I have a neighbor, a christian
>>> arab from Lebanon. Does it make me a christian? Or an arab?
>>> Do you have any brain in your skull?
>>>
>>> And anyway, I wouldn't be ashamed to be a jew. Or Irish.... or greek...
>>> or a negro or whatever...  who the hell does really mind besides some
>>> nazis like you?
>>>
>>> / LaszloK
>>>
>> That's not the question retard! You've been asked before, if you are
>> were a Jew, because you sympathies with them 100%, you denied it.
>> Now you yeping about a Jewish friend/neighbor, so you must have lived in
>> Jewish neighbor hood, since they tend to live with their own clan, eh?
>> JS
> 
> You are stupid. I also had some gypsies as neighbores and friends as
> well. And I also do what I can against their discrimination. As a
> matter of fact I was also working in a sociologic project (unpayed) for
> gathering information about their daily life, I also lived among them
> for a short period. It does not make me roma, does it?
> 
> You are so low both in moral and intelligens that I suggest you to go
> and hang yourself.
> I´m trying to be very diplomatic...
> 
> / LaszloK
> 
 >>I also had some gypsies as neighbores and friends as<<

Now, that really tells something about you! (o:
Do you have a gypsy wife?
JS


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Ron Jew , what's wrong with these pictures?
Ronny showing typhus victims, died in the British hands, some 14,000, 
after the war!
JS
 >>>These are the kind of pictures that Ron wishes never existed. Notice the
date on the last one and the title. Death march my ass.

http://fcit.usf.edu/HOLOCAUST/gallery/10922.htm

http://fcit.usf.edu/HOLOCAUST/gallery2/74558.htm

http://fcit.usf.edu/HOLOCAUST/gallery/13067.htm

http://fcit.usf.edu/HOLOCAUST/gallery2/45035.htm

http://fcit.usf.edu/HOLOCAUST/GALL31R/78360.htm

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http://fcit.usf.edu/HOLOCAUST/gallery2/78808.htm

http://fcit.usf.edu/HOLOCAUST/GALL31R/44071.htm

http://fcit.usf.edu/HOLOCAUST/GALL31R/61501.htm

http://fcit.usf.edu/HOLOCAUST/gallery2/48292.htm<<<




Ron Jacobson wrote:
> In article ,
> Protagonist   wrote:
> 
>> Wrong! Hygienic condition broke down in the camps at the end of war, 
> 
>    As opposed to the assertion of Holocaust deniers,  the systematic
> starvation and mistreatment of inmates in Nazi "work camps" had nothing
> to do with "harsh conditions at the war's end".
> 
>    As early as 1942,  the death rate in these camps had reached
> 10 percent per month.  Source:
> http://www.mazal.org/archive/nmt/05/NMT05-T0381.htm
> 
>    On 24 August 1942,  the Governor of Nazi-occupied Poland,  Hans
> Frank,  said the following in a cabinet meeting:
> 
>    "In whatever difficulties you observe some place here, in the
> form of the sicknesses of your workers, the breakdown of your associations,
> etc., you must always think of the fact that it is still much better when a 
> Pole breaks down than that a German succumb. That we sentence 1.2 million
> Jews to die of hunger should be noted only marginally. It is a matter, of
> course, that should the Jews not starve to death it would, we hope, result
> in a speeding up of anti-Jewish measures."  Source:
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/~jamie/policy-of-starvation.shtml
> 
>    Lt. Col. Johnston,  of the Royal Army Medical Corps,  had this to say
> after his inspection of the Belsen camp:  "There was obvious evidence of
> extreme and systematic starvation both in the living and the dead" (source:
> "The Belsen Trial",  page 46).
> 
>    The following are some of the photographs taken in the camps
> immediately after liberation:
> 
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/camps/belsen/index.shtml
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//ohrdruf/images/ohrdruf-02.jpg
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//nordhausen/images/nordhausen-01.jpg
> http://www.chorale-populaire-de-paris.com/IMG/jpg/dachau.jpg
> http://www.arory.com/Doc%20du%20mois/dachau.jpg
> 
>    It is especially instructive to compare the appearance of the
> victims with that of the SS personnel and the German population
> living right by the camps:
> 
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/camps/belsen/belsen04.shtml
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/camps/belsen/ss-women.shtml
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//buchenwald/images/buchenwald04.jpg
> 
>    The last photograph shows German civilians living by Buchenwald camp,
> after being made to visit the camp and view its horrors.  Note their
> excellent physical condition -- they are,  obviously,  very well fed.
> And -- this is how the inmates looked:
> 
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//buchenwald/images/buchenwald01.jpg
> 
> RJ.


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Ordog wrote:
> Protagonist wrote:
> 
>>   Rossz konyveket olvasol gyerek!
> 
> But they are still better than remaining just half literate as you seem
> to be grandpa!

Liberal retard like you never learns, stay an ignorant Hunky!

Spanish Nazi camp 'survivor' lied
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4539461.stm
JS

> 
> Ördög
> Either the neocons go or civilisation does!
> BTW: I can not even guess how old you might be. But in view of the fact
> that I am 54 and you regard me as only a child Altsheimer must be
> strongly messing up your reasoning capacity (and memory too).

I'm younger than you! (o:
> 


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Orion wrote:
> 89 year old Nazi  Coward dies before trial, Now Being Butt Fucked By Satan 
> Instead 
> 
> What is a Nazi?
> 
> A Nazi is above all else, a craven coward.
> 
> A Nazi is afraid to compete with others as equals because he knows he
> can't measure up.
> 
> A Nazi is afraid of his own inadequacy, so he wants to murder his
> betters.
> 
> A Nazi is afraid of the truth, so he wants to murder those who tell
> it.
> 
> A Nazi is afraid of history, so he wants to murder the past, to wipe
> out the knowledge of the degeneracy, cowardice and failure of National
> Socialism.
> 
> Finally, a Nazi is afraid of the power of educated, informed adults.
> Freedom of choice terrifies him... which is why he chooses minor
> children as sexual partners.  He can't interact with competent adults
> in a consensually sexual way.  He needs to be able to impose himself
> on a helpless victim, be it a prepubescent boy, or a patient in a
> mental hospital.
> 

Told by a Jew, who don't even know where and what is Orion!
JS


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Ordog wrote:
> Protagonist wrote:
>> Ordog wrote:
> 
>> Liberal retard like you never learns, stay an ignorant Hunky!
> 
> You are barking up the wrong tree. You really do!
> 
> I am your worst nightmere, in reality. 
Really! Tell me about it?

You should investigate what I
> post on Usenet. It is easy. Google is your friend.

I don't investigate people, like you and others do.
Some poster wanted me turn into the police from Germany, what an idiot.
This is public NG, you write the way you feel. If you don't like some 
ones postings, there is all ways kill file.
I find it entertaining some of the crazy post here.
> 
>>> BTW: I can not even guess how old you might be. But in view of the fact
>>> that I am 54 and you regard me as only a child Altsheimer must be
>>> strongly messing up your reasoning capacity (and memory too).

You may be 54, but write like a chilled.
> 
>> I'm younger than you! (o:
> 
> So you are younger! That it is an early onset case for Altsheimer that
> is causing your general confusion.
> I haven't forgotten where I come from and what I have learned and
> experienced in my youth. You apparertly did.
> 
> The real lesson for you is to understand that " Nagy Magyarország nem
> feltétlenül a mennyország" no matter who implanted this
> nationalistic ideology into your head.

You sound like more of a Romanian, than Hungarian.
Are you?
JS

> 
> Ördög
> Either the neocons go or civilisation does!
> 


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Ördög wrote:
> burrah wrote:
>> "Ordog"  wrote in message
>> news:1152800535.283012.89880@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>> PaulR wrote:
>>> Ordog a écrit :
> 
>>>> ataturkey wrote:
>>>>> Very interesting but all of this is true for Zionazis also.
> 
>>>> Could be. However, just as not all Germans were nazis the same is true
>>>> for Jews and Zionism.
> 
>>> True. To zionists, non-zionist Jews are not Jews !!!!
>>> How was it in nazi Germany ? Were non-nazis declared as non-German ?
> 
>> Well. If you've kept very quiet about it you could survive somehow. But
>> if you did not display at least some enthusiasm towards what was
>> happenning you could easily have ended up in an ugly concentartion camp
>> along with the Jews, the gypsies, the mentally ill and the political
>> left.
> 
>> * Your family were in the thick of things during the war on the side of
>> Hitler.
>> Is that what they thought?
> 
> Barking up the wrong tree, yet again?
> 
> My mother's father was Jewish. Even worse, he was a socialist. 
Typical Jew, communist! Kun Bela fajta kolbasz toltalek!

That
> meant that he was virtually living in constant hiding. He had to
> disappear as soon as Hitler occupied Hungary. But even before that, he
> and the whole family was already suffering from the successions of anti
> Jewish laws brought down by the Hungarian government in support of
> Hitlers policies in Germany.

I wonder why? Did you ever asked yourself, whyyy?
> 
> Here is an example: Although my grandmother was not Jewish (lower
> middle class Hungarian family, one brother in the military, an other
> brother on the advisory staff to Horthy the Regent of
> Hungary,http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/wooton/34/horthy/10.html)
> and all members of the family were Catholic my aunt was refused
> university entry despite of finishing high school with high
> distinction. That was the direct result of the first and second wave of
> anti Jewish legistlations.

There is all ways a cause and effect! Keep searching the WHY?
JS

> 
>> Dissent towards what the nazis did was regarded as extremely
>> unpatriotic and you had to face strong and open hostility from the rest
>> of the population.
> 
>> * is that why your family went along with the Nazis?
> 
> Sure. They were Hitler's best mates. Idiot!
> Don't you have a better strawman to pull out of your arse?
> 
>> "The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the
>> spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that
>> spectrum." - Noam Chomsky, American linguist and U.S. media and foreign
>> policy critic.
> 
> An other one of those goodies strait out of your book of quotes isn't
> it?
> No original ideas on your own?
> 
>> Ördög
>> Either the neocons go or civilisation does!
> 
> PS: See how far we came? Starting from your accusations that I was a
> muslim! LOL
> 


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Ben Cramer wrote:
>  wrote in message news:VYvtg.8488$Zf.8266@trnddc04...
>> On 13-Jul-2006, turan*@shaw.ca wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 19:00:09 +1000, "Ben Cramer"
>>> <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> They've been involved in every shit fight, and most polical unrest 
>>>> across
>>>>
>>>> the world for decades. Look, for example, at their involvement in the US
>>>> Civil Rights movement.
>>> i don't find that obnoxious at all
>> That's because you're not a racist slimebag.
>>> to be perfectly honest only sabra & shatilla bothered me
>>>
>>> but as i later learned that was a work of christian arabs
>> I have found through the years that rather than apologize for anything
>> Israel is said to have done, I simply have to wait a few days (used to
>> be a week, but it's getting faster these days), & then the TRUTH
>> would emerge, and there would be nothing for which to apologize.
> 
> It's got quicker to bring out the lies since they employed Major Sharon 
> Feingold as their spin doctor. She's brilliant. She even has you believing 
> Baruch Goldestein was a hero.
> 
> Such a mitzvah already.
> 
> 
>> The Hamas landmine on the beach is a perfect example of this.
>> You will still find lying scumbags who pretend it was an IDF shell,
>> but all the reuptable/major news agencies have told the truth.
> 
> What HAMAS landmine, you thick Irish cunt. It was a 155mm israeli artillery 
> shell.
> 
> 
Don't take it serious, all TuRuszki(Turan) wants to do is get into 
Susan's pentyhose at any cost.
JS


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Heinrich wrote:
> David Abel, George
> 
> BEFORE 1948, nobody protected the Jews. In Jewry's darkest hour, the whole 
> world looked on as six million Jews were exterminated in Europe.
> 
> Some countries even sent boatloads of escaping Jews back to Germany, fully 
> aware that they faced certain death in the nazi concentration camps.
> 
> Today, in the Jewish state of Israel, a soldier killed in battle is not an 
> unexpected event - but when one is kidnapped and helpless, like Gilad 
> Shalit, it immediately conjures up the image of the Holocaust when Jews did 
> not have the opportunity to fight or resist. Furthermore, in a country the 
> size of the Kruger National Park, there are only five million Israelis and 
> every single one counts.
> 
> When something like this happens, everyone worries.
> 
> However, every soldier and every citizen knows that Israel, with the fourth 
> strongest army in the world, will do everything in its power to rescue even 
> a single hostage from the enemy.
> 
> Unlike the past, today Jews are able to protect themselves. With suicide 
> bombers and Kassam rockets launched against Israelis on a daily basis, Jewry 
> throughout the world is proud of their spirit and resilience in the face of 
> extreme adversity.
> 
> Within the harsh reality of the Israeli army having to confront a deadly foe 
> operating from urban areas, our hearts go out to civilians on both sides 
> caught in the crossfire.
> 
> We Jews pray for the safety of Shalit and his early release from capture. Of 
> one thing we can be sure: Prime Minister Ehud Olmert will not stop until the 
> young soldier is back in Israel, no matter what it takes.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
Well, that latest, now 3 Israeli solders are captured and 8 dead.
It's not over yet!
Nice going Jew Israel!
JS



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Ordog wrote:
> Protagonist wrote:
>> Ördög wrote:
> 
>> Typical Jew, communist! Kun Bela fajta kolbasz toltalek!
> No why don't you say that in English? Chicken!

There is nothing chicken about speaking in my native language, retard!
You are a very confused Jew, communist, like all of you are.
> 
> Nothing to do with Kun Béla.
> But I am a distant relation of the Rózsa family if that rings a bell,
> you nazi moron.
> I told you I am your worst nightmere.

Rozsa? No! Probably some Jew family, they're retard like you, if you are 
related!
> 
> Yep, imagine a family, which is at least three generations dedicated to
> the ideology of the political left. And the next generation will not be
> any different either! He he!

I wouldn't be proud of that!!! Communism is a failed system by it's self 
at present and it caused many people suffering.
vs. Nazism, took lot of bombs to make it fail.

>>From me (and my children) you can only expect deep despise and a quick
> phone call for a transport to a nice and causy room in a mental asylum
> till the end of your days.

Typical Jew you are, your mined is all ways on revenge.
I have no sympathy for you or your kind.
Even Shakespeare is dedicated a novel for your rotten tribe, The 
Merchant of Venice!

> 
> On the ethnic side of things I have no sympathies for the nazi-trashy
> type of morons (like you) nor the Zionist and neocons. You see, I sit
> between these two idiotic groups. One that regards me as a hated Jew
> and the other which regards me as a distrusted gentile.

As Bush said: either with us or against us.
Black or white, red or blue etc...

> Well, to the hell with both (should such place actually exist, which is
> sadly not the case).
> 
>> I wonder why? Did you ever asked yourself, whyyy?
>> There is all ways a cause and effect! Keep searching the WHY?
> 
> Of course I have!
> 
> Why do people behave in a grossly inhumane fashion? Why do they always
> target those who can not fight back and who are therefore vulnerable?
> Why do they enjoy the suffering of others? Why do they steal and rob
> specially from those who do not have much themselves?

You are turning out to be a nice poet, but you still not found the WHY!
> 
> My best guess is that they are suffering from some sort of mass
> psychosis. On top of that they are born bullies who are deep down
> cowards and only stand against those who are weaker than themselves.

I never bullied any one, I'm the nicest guy you ever met in life.
You put the title on me , I'm a Nazi and you are my worst nightmare.
I'm only telling you the TRUTH and it blow a fuse in you.

> Yep. Major character flaws, compulsive sadism, illiteracy, greed, etc.

You describing your tribe, the Jews! Greed really fits you.

> Look into your mirror and insert anything else I may have left out in
> this list.

I just did, don't see all those things you were describing, you missed 
all the positive qualities.

> To sum it up such people can be regarded as sociopaths!

Really? I don't think you know what sociopath is!
Your Jewish blood fuels your anger and hatred toward me, because I'm 
better that you and you can't come to terms with the truth.
Keep searching the WHY!!!!!
JS

> 
> Ördög
> Either the neocons go or civilisation does!
> 


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Ordog wrote:
> Protagonist wrote:
>> Ördög wrote:
> 
>> Typical Jew, communist! Kun Bela fajta kolbasz toltalek!
> No why don't you say that in English? Chicken!
> 
> Nothing to do with Kun Béla.
> But I am a distant relation of the Rózsa family if that rings a bell,
> you nazi moron.
> I told you I am your worst nightmere.

Don't forget this, who started the war Jew boy!
http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html
JS


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Ron Jacobson wrote:
> In article <1152812143.268587.37430@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> hoaxbuster@earthlink.net  wrote:
> 
>> Diesel exhaust smells bad, it may even look bad, and it may cause
>> cancer.  But, as a source of a toxic gas for killing anything in
>> half-an-hour, diesel exhaust is thoroughly impractical. 
> 
>    Nonsense.  A diesel -- even under normal running conditions --
> produces exhaust which is lethal since it does not contain enough
> oxygen to sustain life.  See
> 
>    http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/diesel/index.shtml
> 
> RJ.
> 

Problem J RJ is, that Carbon Monoxide that kills people quick and diesel 
has very low concentration, as you see on the chart.

 >>The problem is: Diesel engines do not emit enough carbon monoxide to 
kill anybody. In 1988, 97 kids, trapped 400 feet underground in a 
Washington, D.C., tunnel while two locomotives spewed diesel exhaust 
into the car, emerged unharmed after 45 minutes<<

Also, State of California on CO poisoning:
http://www.dbw.ca.gov/codanger.asp#whatIsCO

JS


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ataturkey wrote:
> Ordog wrote:
>> ataturkey wrote:
>>> Ordog wrote:
>>>> Hmmm. You've just blew it!
>>> The unwelcome truth does that to people
>> Or unwelcome lies, maybe?
> 
> You deleted the text which you call lies showing your own lack of
> integrity:
> 
> "but the Jews have turned it into an art. Claims like the extermination
> of 800,000 Hungarian Jews and the denial of the horrible crimes
> committed by Jewish Communists in the former Soviet Union and Soviet
> occupied Europe tend to discredit Jewish claims far more than anything
> co called "jewhaters" could come up with."
> 
>>
>>>>> My initial
>>>>> inclination was to believe the Jewish version of events but after being
>>>>> exposed to their half-truths, shameless exaggerations and outright
>>>>> lies, I tend to rely more on people like Waldo and Smith for what is
>>>>> fact and what is fiction.
>>>> How about finding out the facts from those who have lived through those
>>>> hard times while they are still alive.
>>>> There are also thousands of publications available on this subject. Why
>>>> pick and choose only those that satify your prejudices?
>>> It has been proven time and time again that those so called eye witness
>>> accounts are not reliable.
>> I did not get that impression talking to my parents and grandparents.
>> Nor from a great many people from both politically opposing camps. Such
>> devides have existed within families throughout those troubled times
>> nad even after.
> 
> It sounds as if you grew up in Hungary under the Jewish Communist rule
> of terror. I would not put too much credit in anything that supported
> the Communist version of events.
>>> The more some of these people collaborated
>>> with the Nazis, the more they would try to embellish their sufferings
>>> and replace their cowardly acts of collaboration with tales of heroics.
>> You mean that people who have died during some of the death marches
>> organised by Hitler and his henchman were collaborators? I don't think
>> so. You seem to be talking now with your arse!
> 
> The dirty little secret is that there were not enough Germans to run
> those camps and they were run by Jews. Where do you get this crap about
> death marches? You must not have heard about the trains that Stalin's
> Jewish Communists used to murder the Ukrainians.
> 
>>>>> Most nations, especially Americans, tend to
>>>>> honor their own veterans and those who fought against armies invading
>>>>> their countries. One has to wonder why are there so many Europeans who
>>>>> are willing to vilify their own leaders (not talking about the
>>>>> Communists puppets that the Soviets installed in Soviet occupied
>>>>> Europe) and willing to let their history interpreted by those who hate
>>>>> them.
>>>> Well, you might be proud of being ruled by the likes of Franco, Hitler,
>>>> Mussolini or Szállasi but most sane people would not be.
>>> You have conveniently left out Stalin and Stalin's Jewish henchmen.
>> Not conveniently! On purpose! I was discussing nazism and not
>> stalinism. I am debating nazi revisionists here and not stalinists. You
>> did not like it and have thrown in a strawman. I do not have to swallow
>> the bait.
> 
> The discussion of Nazism is never complete without a parallel
> discussion of Communism. It is like the chicken and the egg. The
> Germans may have never turned to the Nazis if they did not fear the
> Soviets and the horrors perpetrated in the Soviet Union by Stalin's
> Jewish Communists.
> 
>> At that, why would one type of inhumane behaviour be excused by an
>> other one?
> 
> Obviously you found a way to condemn one and ignore the other.
>>> How
>>> about the brutal terrorists who led Israel for most of its existence?
>> How about them? Have I defended any of their actions? Have I not stood
>> up against those who support the current Israeli politics. Don't come
>> to me with such idiotic statements.
> 
> I have no idea where you stand on the Nazi like actions of Israel.
>>> See how people's preferences tend to cloud people's judgment?
>> I see quite clearly what clouds your statements.
> 
> I do not need to defend the German Nazis or Jewish Communists because I
> am not a German or a Jew.
> 
>>>> On the other hand, the Kádár regime was not all that bad despite what
>>>> you might believe. Under the given circumstances in which Hungary has
>>>> found itself after loosing WW2, being occupied by Russian forces and on
>>>> top of that suffering a military defeat during the independence
>>>> struggle in 1956 that particular leadership has provided the country
>>>> with a relative stability and prosperity not typical of any other
>>>> communist countries of that era.
>>> Did Rakosi, Gero and the other Jewish Communists who ruled Hungary for
>>> Stalin somehow skipped your mind?
>> My answer is the same as above! You present a strawman because I do not
>> support the Hungarian nazi revisionism (neo or otherwise). I am
>> discussing nazism and not stalinism. BTW a hell of a lot more
>> Hungarians have suffered due to the activities of the Hungarian extreme
>> right and the Nazis (including the whole of the second Hungarian army
>> which perished at Stalingrad) than due to that few years of post war
>> stalinistic period.
> 
> The difference between the Nazis or the Communists is only in one's
> perception. You are not qualified to tell me what was worse for the
> Hungarians, the Nazis or the Communists because you are a Jew and not a
> Hungarian. Maybe Protagonist can but I was under the impression that he
> was not a Hungarian but a Slovak. It so hard to find good help.

I'm not  Slovak, but Hungarian. Don't know where you got your falls 
impression about me?
vs. Ordog ( Means "Devil") is a Jew, not a Hungarian (Magyar), he even 
denies the 1000 year old greater Hungary.
Jews never assimilate into any country they live in, they all ways 
remain Jews.
When things go bad, they run!
JS


> 
>>> You could read the first chapter of
>>> Irving's book on the Hungarian Uprising if you would like to know more
>>> about the Jewish Bolsheviks of Hungary.
>> I could, but why would I. Most likely I know more about that event from
>> my own life than that idiot Irving who was not in Hungary as the
>> revolution unfolded. The 1956 revolution had nothing to do with your
>> imaginary jewish bolsheviks. Mind you, Hungary was not Russia. There
>> never was such a political animal as Hungarian bolshevik. (By that
>> time, i.e. 1956, they did not even exists in Russia itself).
>>
>>> It is a very extensive list and
>>> he lists such names as Rakosi, Gero and many more.
>> There are lots of events and names in Irving's imagination, some of
>> them have even existed in real life! LOL
>> That man writes a history that has little to do with reality. In any
>> case I trust my parents more than any foreign propagandist (after the
>> facts) with a not so well hidden motive.
>> I have lived in the cellar of our house and that of our neighbours for
>> weeks during that period. I have seen the arial fighting and the
>> bombing of Budapest in 1956, he did not, nor did you! Get lost or get
>> real.
> 
> Irving made an actual list with names and positions.
> 
>>> The outrage is that
>>> they put an old man like Irving in prison for telling it like it is.
>> The outrage is that he gets the publicity he wants. That man only
>> deseves to be ignored, completely!
> 
> He speaks the truth and so he must be silenced?
>>> Have a nice vegetarian day!
>> Whatever. As a Hungarian I prefer my paprikás csirke és csabai
>> kolbász!
> 
> Are you a Hungarian or a Jew? You cannot have it both ways.
> Have a nice vegetarian day!
> 


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ataturkey wrote:
> Protagonist wrote:
>> ataturkey wrote:
>>> Ordog wrote:
>>>> ataturkey wrote:
>>>>> Ordog wrote:
>>>>>> Hmmm. You've just blew it!
>>>>> The unwelcome truth does that to people
>>>> Or unwelcome lies, maybe?
>>> You deleted the text which you call lies showing your own lack of
>>> integrity:
>>>
>>> "but the Jews have turned it into an art. Claims like the extermination
>>> of 800,000 Hungarian Jews and the denial of the horrible crimes
>>> committed by Jewish Communists in the former Soviet Union and Soviet
>>> occupied Europe tend to discredit Jewish claims far more than anything
>>> co called "jewhaters" could come up with."
>>>
>>>>>>> My initial
>>>>>>> inclination was to believe the Jewish version of events but after being
>>>>>>> exposed to their half-truths, shameless exaggerations and outright
>>>>>>> lies, I tend to rely more on people like Waldo and Smith for what is
>>>>>>> fact and what is fiction.
>>>>>> How about finding out the facts from those who have lived through those
>>>>>> hard times while they are still alive.
>>>>>> There are also thousands of publications available on this subject. Why
>>>>>> pick and choose only those that satify your prejudices?
>>>>> It has been proven time and time again that those so called eye witness
>>>>> accounts are not reliable.
>>>> I did not get that impression talking to my parents and grandparents.
>>>> Nor from a great many people from both politically opposing camps. Such
>>>> devides have existed within families throughout those troubled times
>>>> nad even after.
>>> It sounds as if you grew up in Hungary under the Jewish Communist rule
>>> of terror. I would not put too much credit in anything that supported
>>> the Communist version of events.
>>>>> The more some of these people collaborated
>>>>> with the Nazis, the more they would try to embellish their sufferings
>>>>> and replace their cowardly acts of collaboration with tales of heroics.
>>>> You mean that people who have died during some of the death marches
>>>> organised by Hitler and his henchman were collaborators? I don't think
>>>> so. You seem to be talking now with your arse!
>>> The dirty little secret is that there were not enough Germans to run
>>> those camps and they were run by Jews. Where do you get this crap about
>>> death marches? You must not have heard about the trains that Stalin's
>>> Jewish Communists used to murder the Ukrainians.
>>>
>>>>>>> Most nations, especially Americans, tend to
>>>>>>> honor their own veterans and those who fought against armies invading
>>>>>>> their countries. One has to wonder why are there so many Europeans who
>>>>>>> are willing to vilify their own leaders (not talking about the
>>>>>>> Communists puppets that the Soviets installed in Soviet occupied
>>>>>>> Europe) and willing to let their history interpreted by those who hate
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>> Well, you might be proud of being ruled by the likes of Franco, Hitler,
>>>>>> Mussolini or Szállasi but most sane people would not be.
>>>>> You have conveniently left out Stalin and Stalin's Jewish henchmen.
>>>> Not conveniently! On purpose! I was discussing nazism and not
>>>> stalinism. I am debating nazi revisionists here and not stalinists. You
>>>> did not like it and have thrown in a strawman. I do not have to swallow
>>>> the bait.
>>> The discussion of Nazism is never complete without a parallel
>>> discussion of Communism. It is like the chicken and the egg. The
>>> Germans may have never turned to the Nazis if they did not fear the
>>> Soviets and the horrors perpetrated in the Soviet Union by Stalin's
>>> Jewish Communists.
>>>
>>>> At that, why would one type of inhumane behaviour be excused by an
>>>> other one?
>>> Obviously you found a way to condemn one and ignore the other.
>>>>> How
>>>>> about the brutal terrorists who led Israel for most of its existence?
>>>> How about them? Have I defended any of their actions? Have I not stood
>>>> up against those who support the current Israeli politics. Don't come
>>>> to me with such idiotic statements.
>>> I have no idea where you stand on the Nazi like actions of Israel.
>>>>> See how people's preferences tend to cloud people's judgment?
>>>> I see quite clearly what clouds your statements.
>>> I do not need to defend the German Nazis or Jewish Communists because I
>>> am not a German or a Jew.
>>>
>>>>>> On the other hand, the Kádár regime was not all that bad despite what
>>>>>> you might believe. Under the given circumstances in which Hungary has
>>>>>> found itself after loosing WW2, being occupied by Russian forces and on
>>>>>> top of that suffering a military defeat during the independence
>>>>>> struggle in 1956 that particular leadership has provided the country
>>>>>> with a relative stability and prosperity not typical of any other
>>>>>> communist countries of that era.
>>>>> Did Rakosi, Gero and the other Jewish Communists who ruled Hungary for
>>>>> Stalin somehow skipped your mind?
>>>> My answer is the same as above! You present a strawman because I do not
>>>> support the Hungarian nazi revisionism (neo or otherwise). I am
>>>> discussing nazism and not stalinism. BTW a hell of a lot more
>>>> Hungarians have suffered due to the activities of the Hungarian extreme
>>>> right and the Nazis (including the whole of the second Hungarian army
>>>> which perished at Stalingrad) than due to that few years of post war
>>>> stalinistic period.
>>> The difference between the Nazis or the Communists is only in one's
>>> perception. You are not qualified to tell me what was worse for the
>>> Hungarians, the Nazis or the Communists because you are a Jew and not a
>>> Hungarian. Maybe Protagonist can but I was under the impression that he
>>> was not a Hungarian but a Slovak. It so hard to find good help.
>> I'm not  Slovak, but Hungarian. Don't know where you got your falls
>> impression about me?
> 
> I recall someone calling you a Slovak. Sorry about the mistake. How
> about Ordog's claim that the Nazis caused more harm to the Hungarians
> than the Communists? I solicited a second opinion because I find his
> claim hard to believe.

Ordog (Devil) has Jew blood in him, as he said, he is many generation of 
  socialist (communist) that's why he's anti-Nazi feeling come from.
Hungary was part of the Axis but at the end the of the war, some 1/4 
million Jews were transported to Auschwitz for labor.
Jews claim they were all killed, I don't support that.
As we know, there are many lies claimed about Auschwitz.
Any thing what Ordog(Devil) say here, must be taken with a grain of 
salt, because he is pro-Jewish.
JS


> 
>> vs. Ordog ( Means "Devil") is a Jew, not a Hungarian (Magyar), he even
>> denies the 1000 year old greater Hungary.
>> Jews never assimilate into any country they live in, they all ways
>> remain Jews.
>> When things go bad, they run!
>> JS
>>
>>
>>>>> You could read the first chapter of
>>>>> Irving's book on the Hungarian Uprising if you would like to know more
>>>>> about the Jewish Bolsheviks of Hungary.
>>>> I could, but why would I. Most likely I know more about that event from
>>>> my own life than that idiot Irving who was not in Hungary as the
>>>> revolution unfolded. The 1956 revolution had nothing to do with your
>>>> imaginary jewish bolsheviks. Mind you, Hungary was not Russia. There
>>>> never was such a political animal as Hungarian bolshevik. (By that
>>>> time, i.e. 1956, they did not even exists in Russia itself).
>>>>
>>>>> It is a very extensive list and
>>>>> he lists such names as Rakosi, Gero and many more.
>>>> There are lots of events and names in Irving's imagination, some of
>>>> them have even existed in real life! LOL
>>>> That man writes a history that has little to do with reality. In any
>>>> case I trust my parents more than any foreign propagandist (after the
>>>> facts) with a not so well hidden motive.
>>>> I have lived in the cellar of our house and that of our neighbours for
>>>> weeks during that period. I have seen the arial fighting and the
>>>> bombing of Budapest in 1956, he did not, nor did you! Get lost or get
>>>> real.
>>> Irving made an actual list with names and positions.
>>>
>>>>> The outrage is that
>>>>> they put an old man like Irving in prison for telling it like it is.
>>>> The outrage is that he gets the publicity he wants. That man only
>>>> deseves to be ignored, completely!
>>> He speaks the truth and so he must be silenced?
>>>>> Have a nice vegetarian day!
>>>> Whatever. As a Hungarian I prefer my paprikás csirke és csabai
>>>> kolbász!
>>> Are you a Hungarian or a Jew? You cannot have it both ways.
>>> Have a nice vegetarian day!
>>>
> 


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Jason James wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message
> news:FImdnVZkbbE0fivZnZ2dnUVZ_oednZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Ordog wrote:
>>> Protagonist wrote:
>>>> Ordog wrote:
>>>> Liberal retard like you never learns, stay an ignorant Hunky!
>>> You are barking up the wrong tree. You really do!
>>>
>>> I am your worst nightmere, in reality.
>> Really! Tell me about it?
>>
>> You should investigate what I
>>> post on Usenet. It is easy. Google is your friend.
>> I don't investigate people, like you and others do.
>> Some poster wanted me turn into the police from Germany, what an idiot.
>> This is public NG, you write the way you feel. If you don't like some
>> ones postings, there is all ways kill file.
>> I find it entertaining some of the crazy post here.
>>>>> BTW: I can not even guess how old you might be. But in view of the
> fact
>>>>> that I am 54 and you regard me as only a child Altsheimer must be
>>>>> strongly messing up your reasoning capacity (and memory too).
>> You may be 54, but write like a chilled.
> 
> Hey Saki,...a "chilled" what? Cucumber? No you're using that.

Stick it up your ass!
JS

> 
> 
> 
>>>> I'm younger than you! (o:
> 
> We know, Saki,..we know.
> 
> 
> 
>>> So you are younger! That it is an early onset case for Altsheimer that
>>> is causing your general confusion.
>>> I haven't forgotten where I come from and what I have learned and
>>> experienced in my youth. You apparertly did.
>>>
>>> The real lesson for you is to understand that " Nagy Magyarország nem
>>> feltétlenül a mennyország" no matter who implanted this
>>> nationalistic ideology into your head.
>> You sound like more of a Romanian, than Hungarian.
>> Are you?
> 
> How would you know, dumbo?
> 
> Jason
> 
> 


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Oh No!!! He denied Austria, he's new country is Israel!
JS


http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/state/20040428-1300-ca-schwarzenegger-israel.html

On first trip as governor Schwarzenegger heads to Israel

LOS ANGELES – Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger will make his first foreign 
trip since taking office to Israel this weekend to promote a "dialogue 
of tolerance" at a museum groundbreaking in Jerusalem.


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127.0.0.1 wrote:
> Jim Higgins wrote:
> 
>> The US should be helping Israel exterminate Hamas and Hezbollah *before*
>> they hit us.
>>
> 
> Bad news Izzy!! Americans are seeing through your Jew lies and propaganda.
> 
> A terrible thing is happening, and not enough Americans are aware to be able
> to do anything about it. Zionists in Israel and in the Bush administration
> are leading America into war with Iran, Syria, Hizbollah in Lebanon and
> Hamas in Palestine. The consequences for America, Israel and the Middle
> East will be disastrous, but as long as Washington is in thrall to Zionist
> paranoia, nothing can be done about it. Bush made this clear on July 14
> when he rejected the plea from Lebanon’s prime minister to pressure Israel
> to stop its attack on Lebanon.
> 
> The war began when Bush’s neoconservative government invaded Afghanistan and
> Iraq under the pretense of "fighting terrorism." Neither front has gone
> well for America. The Israelis, seeing the growing domestic opposition to
> Bush’s wars of choice, concluded that they are in danger of losing
> America’s military intervention in behalf of their Middle East interests.
> Israel decided to force the issue.
> 
> Israel did this by bombing and invading Gaza, from which they had just
> withdrawn as part of a "Palestinian settlement." Israel’s pretext was the
> capture of one Israeli soldier in Gaza in retribution for Israel’s
> genocidal policies toward Palestine. Few Americans know that Israel has
> forced Palestinians into ghettos and walled them off from their farm lands,
> schools, and medical treatment. 
> 
> By slaughtering scores of civilians and destroying the infrastructure of the
> fragile land in response to the capture of one Israeli soldier, Israel has
> made it clear that its policy is fire and sword. 
> 
> Under international law – the identical law that was used to try Nazi war
> criminals after World War II – Israel’s invasion of Gaza is a monstrous war
> crime. The United Nations top humanitarian official, Jan Egeland, said that
> Israel’s attacks on civilians and infrastructure violated international
> law. 
> 
> On July 13, the UN Security Council tried to condemn Israel for its criminal
> invasion of Gaza, but US Ambassador John Bolton, a rabid pro-Israeli
> zealot, vetoed the Security Council resolution that would have required
> Israel to halt its illegal and criminal actions in Gaza. Bolton is the UN
> ambassador who could not get confirmed even in a Republican Senate and was
> given a recess appointment by Bush in defiance of Congress.
> 
> On July 12, Israel invaded Lebanon. The pretext was the capture of two
> Israeli soldiers in Israeli-occupied Lebanese territory by Hizbollah. In
> two days Israel has slaughtered scores of Lebanese civilians, destroyed
> bridges and power plants, attacked the Beruit International Airport and
> blocked Lebanese ports. 
> 
> Israel’s over-reactions are calculated to start a wider war. Israel has
> asserted that the two soldiers captured by Hizbollah are being held in
> Iran. Israel blames Syria for Hizbollah’s acts. Both Israel and its
> neoconsevative allies in the Bush government blame Iran and Syria
> for "attacks on Israel" by Hamas and Hizbollah. No one, least of all Bush,
> blames Israel’s Palestinian policy. 
> 
> Israel’s American agents, the neoconservatives, have made it clear for years
> that their goal is to eliminate every Middle Eastern government that is not
> ruled by an American puppet friendly to Israel. The people who hold the
> important positions in Bush’s government have frankly stated this position
> over and over. For example, a decade ago in 1996 a group of American
> neoconservatives who have comprised much of the sub-cabinet in the Bush
> administration wrote that Israel could gain American sympathy by blaming
> aggression on Hizbollah, Syria, and Iran and then seizing the strategic
> initiative by "engaging Hizbollah, Syria, and Iran as the principal agents
> of aggression in Lebanon."
> 
> First, however, Iraq would have to be taken out. The first focus, said the
> neocons, should be "on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq – an
> important Israeli strategic objective in its own right."
> 
> Gentle reader, does it not strike you as strange that US citizens, most of
> whom have held presidential appointments in the Bush administration, are so
> concerned to plan how Israel can draw upon US blood and treasure to achieve
> Israel’s objectives in the Middle East? 
> 
> We certainly have to hand it to Israel and its American neoconsevative
> agents. They have succeeded on entirely false pretenses in launching two
> wars in the Middle East and now they have prepared the ground for a general
> conflagration. 
> 
> Who is to stop them? The Condi Rice State Department? Be serious.
> 
> The Democratic Party? What a laugh!
> 
> The power mad Republicans who have sold their souls?
> 
> The Christian Evangelicals who believe the destruction of huge numbers of
> people in the Middle East is the lead up to "the Rapture" in which they
> will be wafted up to Heaven?
> 
> The UN Security Council, where the US never fails to veto any resolution or
> sanction against Israel?
> 
> The US and Israel haven’t the troops needed to defeat and occupy Syria,
> Hizbollah and Iran with conventional forces. Pentagon documents have
> described two ways in which the Middle East can be secured for Israel. One
> is the use of nuclear weapons. The other is the destruction of all
> infrastructure – power plants, water and sewage systems, hospitals,
> schools, roads, bridges, ports, and a reduction of much housing to rubble
> by powerful conventional bombs. In other words, an air war that never ends.
> 
> Most Americans are incapable of identifying their own US Representative and
> Senators. Everything they "know" about the Middle East comes from Israeli
> propaganda: Israel is the innocent victim, and all Arabs are terrorists
> with suicide bombs. 
> 
> America is being led by a handful of traitors into participating in "regime
> change" that might succeed or might dethrone our bought and paid for
> puppets in Egypt, Pakistan, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. If Pakistan were to
> fall to Islamist forces, Muslims would have a nuclear capability as a
> counterpart to Israel’s and America’s. 
> 
> Muslims have many reasons to hate us for generations of oppression and
> interference in their internal affairs. As Iraq has proven, it is not easy
> to break their spirit. Out-gunned and out-manned, they still resist,
> motivated by anger and pride. 
> 
> Many Americans may think that "ragheads" mean nothing to them. But when $200
> oil means Americans cannot commute to their jobs in their gas-guzzlers from
> their far-flung suburbs, or Russia and China intervene because
> American-Israeli interests conflict with their own, the world becomes a
> different place for inattentive, uninvolved, complicit Americans.
> http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=9311

Every time I switch on TV, on the news (CNN etc...) some Jewish news 
anchorman shooting his mouth off, how Israel is suffering and blaming 
Hisbala started the war.
As one US Marine addressed the question on FOX news:, - How many 
Americans dieing in Iraq every day? Now 2 Israeli solders gets captured, 
not even dead, for exchange for hostages and Israel starts a war, 
bombing a country Lebanon to flat, killing hundreds of civilians.
For what? 2 Israeli solders?
What a Joke!
In my opinion, this war is a precursor for a larger war with Iran!
Bush couldn't get support for a direct war against Iran, so now he's 
trying at indirectly!
JS



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hoaxbuster@earthlink.net wrote:
> Perhaps will try to explain how can commit mass murder with diesel
> exhaust??
> 
> Friedrich Paul Berg
> Learn everything at www.nazigassings.com
> 

Very easy, they stick the exhaust pipe, one by one up into the Jews ass 
and let them smoke.
After a million pipe would wear out, so need a new one.
In Jew land any thing is possible.

JS


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aamerenga@gmail.com wrote:
>> Perhaps will try to explain how can commit mass murder with diesel
>> exhaust??
> 
> You can't even write a grammatically sound english sentence! My excuse
> would be that English is not my native tongue. What is yours?
> 
> hoaxbuster@earthlink.net schreef:
> 
>> Perhaps will try to explain how can commit mass murder with diesel
>> exhaust??
>>
>> Friedrich Paul Berg
>> Learn everything at www.nazigassings.com
> 

What you've been  writing don't make any sense at all, Kosher head!
JS



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I can't find information on the ratio of Blacks live in France.
I read on one forum, France does not publish such statistics, because of 
their strong anti-racial laws.
Looking at the French soccer team, seems every one Negro or Arab in 
France out of the 60 million population.
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/team/squad.html?team=FRA
JS


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Look it the US-seal with the star of David on top of the eagle.
These are the people running this country and die for Israel.
I've been watching the cable news channels, CNN, FOX, MSNBC etc..., 
they're all pro-Israel.
News announcers, as I cross refrence their bio, most are Jewish or half Jew.
So, think about it, every time you watch cable news, America listens  to 
the Jewish version of the News.
JS



127.0.0.1 wrote:
> Pat Buchanan: No, this is not 'our war'
> 
> World Net Daily | July 20, 2006
> 
> My country has been "torn to shreds," said Fouad Siniora, the prime minister
> of Lebanon, as the death toll among his people passed 300 civilian dead,
> 1,000 wounded, with half a million homeless.
> 
> Israel must pay for the "barbaric destruction," said Siniora.
> 
> To the contrary, says columnist Lawrence Kudlow, "Israel is doing the Lord's
> work."
> 
> On American TV, former Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu says the
> ruination of Lebanon is Hezbollah's doing. But is it Hezbollah that is
> using U.S.-built F-16s, with precision-guided bombs and 155-mm artillery
> pieces to wreak death and devastation on Lebanon?
> 
> No, Israel is doing this, with the blessing and without a peep of protest
> from President Bush. And we wonder why they hate us.
> 
> "Today, we are all Israelis!" brayed Ken Mehlman of the Republican National
> Committee to a gathering of Christians United for Israel.
> 
> One wonders if these Christians care about what is happening to our
> Christian brethren in Lebanon and Gaza, who have had all power cut off by
> Israeli airstrikes, an outlawed form of collective punishment, that has
> left them with no sanitation, rotting food, impure water and days without
> light or electricity in the horrible heat of July.
> 
> When summer power outrages occur in America, it means a rising rate of death
> among our sick and elderly, and women and infants. One can only imagine
> what a hell it must be today in Gaza City and Beirut.
> 
> But all this carnage and destruction has only piqued the blood lust of the
> hairy-chested warriors at the Weekly Standard. In a signed editorial, "It's
> Our War," William Kristol calls for America to play her rightful role in
> this war by "countering this act of aggression by Iran with a military
> strike against Iranian nuclear facilities. Why wait?"
> 
> "Why wait?" Well, one reason is that the United States has not been
> attacked. A second is a small thing called the Constitution. Where does
> George W. Bush get the authority to launch a war on Iran? When did Congress
> declare war or authorize a war on Iran?
> 
> Answer: It never did. But these neoconservatives care no more about the
> Constitution than they cared about the truth when they lied into war in
> Iraq.
> 
> "Why wait?" How about thinking of the fate of those 25,000 Americans in
> Lebanon if we launch an unprovoked war on Iran. How many would wind up dead
> or hostages of Hezbollah if Iran gave the order to retaliate for the
> slaughter of their citizens by U.S. bombs? What would happen to the 130,000
> U.S. troops in Iraq, if Shiites and Iranian "volunteers" joined forces to
> exact revenge on our soldiers?
> 
> What about America? Richard Armitage, who did four tours in Nam and knows a
> bit about war, says that, in its ability to attack Western targets,
> al-Qaida is the B Team, Hezbollah the A Team. If Bush bombs Iran, what
> prevents Hezbollah from launching retaliatory attacks inside the United
> States?
> 
> None of this is written in defense of Hamas, Hezbollah or Iran.
> 
> But none of them has attacked our country, nor has Syria, whom Bush I made
> an ally in the Gulf War and to whom the most decorated soldier in Israeli
> history, Ehud Barak, offered 99 percent of the Golan Heights. If Nixon,
> Bush I and Clinton could deal with Hafez al-Assad, a tougher customer than
> son Bashar, what is the matter with George W. Bush?
> 
> The last superpower is impotent in this war because we have allowed Israel
> to dictate to whom we may and may not talk. Thus, Bush winds up cussing in
> frustration in St. Petersburg that somebody should tell the Syrians to stop
> it. Why not pick up the phone, Mr. President?
> 
> What is Kristol's moral and legal ground for a war on Iran? It is
> the "Iranian act of aggression" against Israel and that Iran is on the road
> to nuclear weapons ? and we can't have that.
> 
> But there is no evidence Iran has any tighter control over Hezbollah than we
> have over Israel, whose response to the capture of two soldiers had all the
> spontaneity of the Schlieffen Plan. And, again, Hezbollah attacked Israel,
> not us. And there is no solid proof Iran is in violation of the nuclear
> Non-Proliferation Treaty, which it has signed, but Israel refuses to sign.
> 
> If Iran's nuclear program justifies war, why cannot the neocons make that
> case in the constitutional way, instead of prodding Bush to launch a Pearl
> Harbor attack? Do they fear they have no credibility left after pushing
> Bush into this bloody quagmire in Iraq that has cost almost 2,600 dead and
> 18,000 wounded Americans?
> 
> No, Kenny boy, we are not "all Israelis." Some of us still think of
> ourselves as Americans, first, last and always
> 
> And, no, Mr. Kristol, this is not "our war." It's your war.
> http://infowars.com/articles/ww3/israel_buchanan_not_our_war.htm


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Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
> In article ,
> Protagonist   wrote:
>> hoaxbuster@earthlink.net wrote:
>>> Perhaps will try to explain how can commit mass murder with diesel
>>> exhaust??
>>>
>>> Friedrich Paul Berg
>>> Learn everything at www.nazigassings.com
>>>
>> Very easy, they stick the exhaust pipe, one by one up into the Jews ass 
>> and let them smoke.
>> After a million pipe would wear out, so need a new one.
>> In Jew land any thing is possible.
> 
> Are these leading revisionist scholars learned? The dimwitted szaki, for instance,
> consistently displays the true colour of "revisionism."
> 
> I wonder how he manages to go through life with those feet in his mouth?

Much better than your Holo theory of - squeezing 7 people per sq feet 
in a room, than gas them.
Even the sardines in a can, turn into mush at that density, HoloMaster 
McVay!
JS

> 
> Question 1:
> -----------
> 
> On June 13, 2005, you wrote:
> 
> "Although a final figure of Jews killed by the Einsatzgruppen has never been 
>  presented, the most extreme estimates by Yad Vashem and others say that 
>  between 900,000 and 1.25 million people - Jews and others - were killed by 
>  the special action units."
> 
> "This figure is without doubt a gross exaggeration, considering that the 
>  Einsatzgruppen never had more than 3,000 men in total serving in its units 
>  at any one time, and furthermore spent most of their time fighting 
>  partisans." 
> 
> "But even if this grossly exaggerated figure is accurate - and all evidence 
>  is that it is not - this grandiose figure is still nowhere near the 5 
>  million Jews the Nazis estimated were in the Soviet Union's territory." 
> 
> (Szaki, UseNet alt.revisionism, Message ID 
>  6oadnbn35bIiozDfRVn-1Q@comcast.com)
> 
> Please document your claim that the figure 1.2 million is a gross exaggeration,
> and then produce the "all evidence" mentioned in your third paragraph.
> 
> Include the name of publications containing this "all evidence,", the pages
> upon which this "all evidence" can be found, the publisher and publication
> date, and the author's name.
> 
> Question 2:
> -----------
> 
> On June 15, 2005, in response to the publication of document PS-2615 (First
> Nurnberg Tribunal), in which Wilhelm Hoettl explained that he had been
> told that 6 million Jews had died, you wrote:
> 
> "Sworn testimony, after torture! Nice try, moron!" (Szaki. UseNet alt.revisionism,
> Message ID X46dneLExIw3ajLfRVn-sg@comcast.com)
> 
> Please provide evidence that Herr Hoettl was, in fact, tortured.
> 
> Question 3:
> -----------
> 
> In article , on June 18, 2005, you
> asserted that Sgt. Ragene Farris, who served in the 329th Medical Battalion and
> described the horrors American troops had to face during the liberation of 
> the "Boelcke Kazerne" in Nordhausen concentration camp provided a fictional
> account. You wrote:
> 
> "Thank you JJ, this story of courage of Sergeant Ragene Farris really made me
> cry, very nice, heart breaking fictional tale."
> 
> Please provide documentary evidence which proves that condtions were not
> as Sgt. Farris described them.
> 
> Question 4:
> -----------
> On August 19, 2005, in article , you wrote:
> 
> "Why don't you talk about your stupid, boring, Nizkor website, all the
> cut/paste, fake stories and pictures."
> 
> Which pictures and stories, precisely, are "fake?" Please provide your evidence
> that specific pictures and/or stories are fake.
> 
> Question 5:
> -----------
> 
> On September 24th, 2005, you wrote:
> 
> In article ,
> szaki   wrote:
> 
>>> http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/imt/nca/ftp.py?imt/nca/nca-05/nca-05-2615-ps
>  
>> *You're using Nizkor fake information, Brum-Brum-Bruno!
> 
> Please produce documentary evidence that Hoettl's sworn statement, which
> constituted document 2615-PS for the First Nurnberg Tribunal, is "fake 
> information."
> 
> Please demonstrate, again with documentary evidence, that Nizkor's copy of
> this document is not an textually exact rendering of 2615-PS.
> 
> Question 6:
> -----------
> 
> On October 1, 2005, you wrote the following of the statement of Dr. Sigmund Rascher:
> 
> In article ,
> szaki   wrote:
>> Ron Jacobson wrote:
>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.py?people/r/rascher.sigmund//images/Rascher1.jpg
>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.py?people/r/rascher.sigmund//images/Rascher2.jpg
> 
> [...]
>  
>> *Nice forgeries, like the 4 million death at Auschwitz and any thing 
>> else about the Holocau$t!
> 
> Please produce documented evidence that the Rascher statement, as shown on 
> two Nizkor Project images, are forgeries.
> 
> Please list the Western historians who cited the 4-Million figure as valid.
> 
> Question 7
> ----------
> 
> On October 2, 2005, in article ,
> you made the following claim:
> 
> "First, EG report was way inflated about numbers executed. EG all ways
> reported at least twice as much back to Germany, to make them self look
> good"
> 
> Please produce documented evidence that the Einsatzgruppen reports used inflated numbers.
> Cite the name of the report in question, and document your claim with respect to that
> report.
> 
> Question 8
> ----------
> 
> On October 23, 2005, in article ,
> you wrote:
> 
>> Running a website for profit, so called Nizkor, cashing in on other 
>> people misfortune and misery!
> 
> Please present evidence that Nizkor is run for a profit. 
> 


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Neurological Linguistic Control Offensive" is apparently long-since 
underway in the West. It can begin with confessing "past sins" to a 
group. Besides making the subject thereby black mailable, all former 
notions are swept from the mind, in the "forgiveness" phase. Onto this 
tabula rasa (blank slate) are put "slides": so-called "politically 
correct" ideas.

The term "slides," according to Soviet Analyst, was coined by the U.S. 
Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). "A 'slide' is a prefabricated, 
'politically correct' blanket 'pop' 'opinion', 'view' or 'take' upon a 
particular issue of general interest which is designed to preclude 
further consideration, analysis or investigation of the issue in 
question. In other words, it is a 'collectivised' mental position which 
is never to be questioned." The potential application venue for such 
"slides" is enormous, for example "random polls," "hit music," and 
television commercials.

The solution for our peril is not a collectivist response, such as the 
"witch craze" of the McCarthy era. All collectivist responses are likely 
to be infiltrated and turned by the enemy. The solution is simply for 
the brainwashed people to struggle to shake off their individual, 
ill-considered notions. Unfortunately, one thing all brainwashed persons 
have in common is, they only dimly (if at all) realize they have been 
brainwashed.
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Ron Jacobson wrote:
> In article ,
> Ben Cramer <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> They seem to have a real penchant for picking up the most disgusting social 
>> habits. I mean - pogroms and institutionalised genocide from the Nazis, 
> 
>    So Benjie no longer denies the Holocaust.  Well,  that's something.
> 
> RJ.
> 
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Waldo wrote:
> Protagonist wrote:
>> Look it the US-seal with the star of David on top of the eagle.
>> These are the people running this country and die for Israel.
>> I've been watching the cable news channels, CNN, FOX, MSNBC etc...,
>> they're all pro-Israel.
>> News announcers, as I cross refrence their bio, most are Jewish or half Jew.
>> So, think about it, every time you watch cable news, America listens  to
>> the Jewish version of the News.
>> JS
> 
> 
> Yesterday Rush Limbaugh mentioned on his radio program that he had been
> delayed by traffic the previous evening while trying to cross through
> the Lincoln Tunnel in his limo.
> 
> He also mentioned that WITH him in the limo were Charlie Rose of
> "The Charlie Rose Show (PBS)
> 
> http://www.charlierose.com/
> 
> AND Roger Ailes, Chairman And Chief Executive Officer of Fox News.
> 
> http://www.newscorp.com/news/news_119.html
> 
> 
> You figure the implications.
> 
> **
> 
> Waldo
> 
> Observer at Large

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/USSeal.png
JS


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Kurt Knoll wrote:
> 23/07/2006 8:26:44 AM
> 
> Great article and eye opener. I do follow the developments in Palestine 
> since 1945. It is the Jews who try to convince the whole world that 
> Palestine is their home land. and have lived there all the time and the 
> Palestinians are only traveling nomads. The Americans eat this lie hook line 
> and sinker. Will the ever weak up and realize it is the Americans who will 
> loose their lives for these ulcers.
> 
> Kurt Knoll.
> 

see who's supporting Israel! Creation and brain child of the US!
US-seal with the star of David in the center.

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JS


>  wrote in message 
> news:1153645064.560888.274670@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...> 
> http://www.natall.com/internet-radio/ts/072206.mp3
> 
>  wrote in message 
> news:1153645064.560888.274670@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>> http://www.natall.com/internet-radio/ts/072206.mp3
>>
>> TRANSCRIPT
>> ==========
>> Today, I'd like to discuss with you the current Israeli incursion
>> into Lebanon and how it may affect all Americans. By now everyone
>> must surely be aware of Israel's latest act of aggression in the
>> Middle East, that being the Zionist state's daily bombardment of
>> Lebanon's infrastructure, including airports, roads, bridges,
>> office buildings, homes, and military installations. Israel
>> claims they are merely "defending" themselves, after two Israeli
>> soldiers were allegedly kidnapped by Hezbollah fighters from
>> southern Lebanon. Defending themselves? Israel has been holding
>> over 9,000 Palestinian and Lebanese prisoners -- some since the
>> early 1980s -- and many have never even been charged with a
>> crime.
>>
>> This isn't the first Israeli incursion into Lebanon. In 1982,
>> Israel invaded Lebanon and literally massacred thousands. And, on
>> October 23, 1983, because of the U.S. backing of Israel's war
>> crimes, 241 American Marines were killed in a suicide bombing on
>> a Marine barracks at the Beirut International Airport. All of
>> those deaths -- as well as the deaths of over 2,550 Americans in
>> the ongoing war in Iraq -- could've been avoided if it wasn't for
>> America's one-sided, lavishly pro-Jewish Middle East policy.
>>
>> Now how did we get to this point? All of the turmoil and killing
>> in the Middle East -- some six thousand miles from home -- really
>> doesn't seem to affect the average American, who is much more
>> concerned with who the next "American Idol" will be or how their
>> favorite sports team is doing. But, there is a very real
>> connection between the problems at home and that in the Middle
>> East than is realized. And it is important for every responsible
>> American to understand the reasons for his government's policies
>> and acts of war in the Middle East, because without a thorough
>> understanding, he'll never be able to rectify the situation.
>>
>> The primary cause for the ongoing conflict in the Middle East is
>> due to the formation of Israel in 1948, on a piece of land which,
>> up until that time, had been universally called Palestine, and
>> had been inhabited by Palestinians for thousands of years. The
>> root of this problem lies in the opposing claims over this land
>> by the Palestinians -- who settled there first -- and the Jews,
>> who claim this land was promised to them by their tribal god.
>>
>> Both claims go back some 3,300 years when the Philistines, a
>> presumably Indo-European people, began invading this land around
>> the middle of the 13th century B.C. The Philistines established
>> settlements on this eastern Mediterranean region from the Gaza
>> Strip to what is now modern Tel Aviv, and then known as Canaan.
>>
>> Shortly after the Philistines settled in Canaan, a people of
>> altogether different character and origins arrived in the land.
>> These were a band of Semites -- Jews -- who had been expelled
>> from Egypt with as much loot as they can carry. They called
>> themselves Israelites.
>>
>> The region was then overrun by one wave of conquerors after
>> another: Assyrians, Egyptians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks,
>> Romans, Arabs, and Turks. The Jews were twice deported from
>> Palestine; first, in the eighth century B.C. by the Assyrians and
>> then in the sixth century B.C. by the Babylonians. The Romans,
>> who found the Jews to be the most subversive of all their
>> subjects, finally, in the second century A.D., deported thousands
>> of Jews and barred Jerusalem and large sections of Palestine from
>> Jewish habitation.
>>
>> In the seventh century, the Arabs, who had become Islamic
>> zealots, conquered Palestine and race-mixing was abundant.
>>
>> It is interesting to note is that from Roman times until modern
>> times Jews were just a tiny minority of the population of
>> Palestine. Turkish census figures show the Jews comprising only a
>> mere 3 per cent of the population in the late 1800s. A major
>> point to remember here, however, is that 80% of today's Jews--
>> including those who immigrated to Israel -- are Ashkenazim, and
>> not related at all to the early Israelites, who were Sephardic
>> Jews. The Sephardic Jews are a Semitic people and have darker,
>> Arab-look to them.
>>
>> The Ashkenazim are those Jews whose ancestry lies in Eastern
>> Europe and are partly White, and partly Mongolic. Their origin
>> was among the Khazars, a Turko-Mongol tribe that invaded southern
>> Russia from Central Asia in the sixth century, and converted to
>> Judaism in the eighth century. The majority of American Jews are
>> of Ashkenazim descent, and can easily be spotted by their classic
>> Khazar hooknose, as in the cases of Barbara Streisand and Stephen
>> Spielberg. The Ashkenazim have no claim whatsoever to Palestine,
>> although we certainly would prefer for them to live there, rather
>> than in America or Europe.
>>
>> In the middle of the 19th century, the Jews created two new world
>> movements: one, Communism, which was directed at Gentiles,
>> preached internationalism and class warfare and was founded by
>> the Jew Karl Marx. The other, Zionism, which was specifically for
>> Jews, preached Jewish nationalism and solidarity and the creation
>> of a Zionist state -- Israel.
>>
>> The Zionists wanted to establish a Jewish national state, from
>> which they can direct the activities of the Gentile world around
>> them. That seems to be the case today, as America's foreign
>> policy is dictated by the powerful Jewish lobby, and public
>> opinion is influenced by the Jewish control of our news and
>> entertainment media.
>>
>> In August 1897, in Basle Switzerland, the first Zionist Congress
>> was organized by Theodor Herzl, who stated: "Every nation in
>> whose midst Jews live is, either covertly or openly anti-Semitic.
>> Anti-Semitism increases day by day and hour by hour among the
>> nations; indeed it is bound to increase, because the causes of
>> its growth continue to exist and cannot be removed." Unquote.
>> Herzl saw this anti-Semitism as a blessing, because it kept the
>> Jews racially conscious, prevented them from intermarriage, and
>> united them in their efforts to overcome their Gentile hosts.
>>
>> In the beginning of the 20th century, Turkey was in control of
>> Palestine, and Herzl had attempted to blackmail the Turks to give
>> the Jews free reign in Palestine. When that didn't work, Herzl
>> turned his thoughts to war and told his fellow Zionists in
>> Switzerland that they might be able hoist control of Palestine
>> through a European war. Quote: "It may be that Turkey will refuse
>> or will be unable to understand us. This will not discourage us.
>> We will seek other means to accomplish our end. The great
>> European war must come. With my watch in hand do I await this
>> terrible moment. After the great European war is ended, the peace
>> conference will assemble. We must be ready for that time."
>>
>> As the First World War ensued, the Jews had two principal aims:
>> First, to break the Turkish hold on Palestine and obtain
>> concessions from whomever took control of Palestine. Second, to
>> destroy Russia, an object of special hatred for them, because it
>> had been Rus warriors, under Sviatoslav the Great, who in 965 had
>> utterly smashed the Khazar Empire, and the Ashkenazim Jews who
>> made up the Zionist leadership had long memories.
>>
>> So first, the Jews -- much to their chagrin -- actually backed
>> Germany in the war, as the Germans were engaged in battle with
>> Russian and Britain. However, their ultimate plan was for the
>> Germans -- who were allied with Turkey -- to lose. So it was in
>> October 1916 the Jews made their offer to the British government:
>> "We will bring America into the war if you take Palestine away
>> from the Turks and give it to us." And, as history has it,
>> America got dragged into the war through the brazen engineering
>> of President Woodrow Wilson and his Jewish stringpullers, thus
>> helping defeat Germany.
>>
>> In 1922, the League of Nations approved the Palestine Mandate,
>> which opened the door for the Jews to eventually displace the
>> Palestinian peoples. A few of the Allied politicians undoubtedly
>> had a soft spot for the Jews based on Bible tales of the "chosen
>> people" and the "promised land." Such ridiculous beliefs were, at
>> that time, still somewhat common amongst otherwise intelligent
>> men in America and Britain.
>>
>> And, while the negotiations of handing Palestine over to the Jews
>> was taking place, Jewish Bolsheviks were starving and
>> slaughtering to death tens of millions of people -- in some of
>> the most horrific ways -- in Russia, Ukraine, and other Eastern
>> European nations. Much of this bestial Jewish butchery was kept
>> secret from the American public, as the Jews had already near
>> total control of the American news and entertainment media.
>>
>> After the Second World War had started, the Jewish media's hate
>> propaganda machine began working around the clock in inciting
>> American hatred against the Germans, whose leadership was
>> exposing the Jewish problem. The Jews, unfortunately, had the
>> full backing of the Franklin Roosevelt regime and all of the
>> resources of the US government at their disposal in inciting this
>> anti-German hatred. The Americans were again duped by the Jews
>> into entering another World War to fight for Zionist interests,
>> the result being the deaths and injuries to hundreds of thousands
>> of Americans. World War II was also a watershed in the history of
>> the rise and fall of Western civilization and of the race which
>> created that civilization.
>>
>> The Second World War saw the destruction of the West's last
>> defenses against the Jews, who have since moved from one triumph
>> to another. Their opponents had been killed, publicly
>> discredited, or intimidated into silence, and no door remained
>> closed to them.
>>
>> After World War Two, the Jewish propaganda machine began spinning
>> out some of the most ridiculous hate propaganda ever: that being
>> the "Holocaust" stories with tales of "gas chambers," "lamp
>> shades," and "bars of soap," all of which have since been easily
>> proven false. The Jewish lies were, however, softening up the
>> Gentile world for the Jews to make their final push for their
>> Zionist state in Palestine.
>>
>> And while British soldiers were dying in Europe to make Germany
>> safe for the Jews, the Jews in Palestine expressed their
>> gratitude to the British by greatly stepping up their
>> anti-British terrorism. One of the Jews' proudest moments came on
>> July 22, 1946, when Zionist terrorists blew up the King David
>> Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the British administrative
>> offices, killing 101 Britons and Arabs. The Jews were also
>> kidnapping British soldiers, strangling them, and boobytrapping
>> their corpses. And every time the British Army took action
>> against the Jewish terrorists, Jews in London would apply
>> pressure to the politicians, and the Army was restrained. Isn't
>> it interesting how the media never mentions these facts today?
>>
>> At this time, the Jews were using terror tactics to panic as many
>> Palestinians as possible into fleeing Palestine, so the Jews
>> could seize more land. And, on April 9, 1948, the Deir Yassin
>> massacre took place. Deir Yassin is a Palestinian village near
>> Jerusalem. The Jews ordered most of the Palestinian residents
>> into the market square, put them against a wall and machine
>> gunned them. The Jews then went through the village, seizing
>> valuables, raping the women, and finally cutting the throats of
>> nearly everyone they found.
>>
>> Zionist leaders then met in Tel Aviv on May 14, 1948 to declare
>> themselves the government of the new state of Israel, in which
>> every Jew in the world has the automatic right of citizenship --
>> and to which every Jew in the world, regardless of any other
>> citizenship he may hold, owes his first loyalty.
>>
>> Jewish terror has also been directed at the United States. On
>> June 8, 1967, the U.S.S. Liberty was patrolling in international
>> waters off Egypt's Sinai Peninsula. Three days previous, Israel
>> had launched its so-called "Six Day War" against Egypt, Syria,
>> and Jordan, with the aim of grabbing more land from the Arabs.
>> The Israelis didn't like the idea of Americans learning what they
>> were up to, so the Israelis made a surprise attack on the
>> American ship with jet fighter bombers and torpedo boats. This
>> was then followed up with napalm and the machine gunning of the
>> ship's rafts, as the Jews did not want any American survivors to
>> tell the story. In the end, 34 Americans had been killed and
>> another 171 wounded.
>>
>> As you've heard here, the Jews have worked long and hard to seize
>> the land of Palestine. They've benefited from two world wars, the
>> deaths and murders of tens of millions of people, and countless
>> other acts of terror. They convinced the American military to
>> twice declare war on Iraq; wars that have resulted in the deaths
>> of thousands of Americans and the wounding of tens of thousands
>> of others.
>>
>> And, with Israel's latest act of war on Lebanon, it appears the
>> Jews are trying to sucker America into yet another war, this time
>> against Hezbollah or perhaps through the back door against Iran
>> or Syria. The Jews will never give up Palestine, and will fight
>> ANYONE-- or get America to fight anyone -- who gets in their way.
>> The war in Lebanon has just begun, and only time will tell what
>> Israel's next move is. But, if history repeats itself, you can be
>> certain, the Jews will continue to use manipulation and terror in
>> their war for survival and power. And, unless America and Europe
>> wake up, Israel will continue succeed, at OUR expense.
>>
> 
> 


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Kurt Knoll wrote:
> Lebanon and Hizbollah have no weapons of mass destruction Israel has. 
> Lebanon can not use the American satellite surveillance system Israel can. 
> Lebanon has a weak army Hezbollah fight for it people and the Jewish 
> corruption.  Israel keeps on building more Jewish settlements on Palestinian 
> land and America looks the other way. In a similar situation will America 
> will get involved to stop the war. In this case America will not interfere 
> without approval from Israeli. Therefore America and Israeli are partners in 
> crime.
> 
> Kurt Knoll.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/USSeal.png
JS


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http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/team/squad.html?team=FRA

JS


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Aussie Infidel wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
> news:htOdnbYzJ9A1R1jZnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
>>> Lebanon and Hizbollah have no weapons of mass destruction Israel has. 
>>> Lebanon can not use the American satellite surveillance system Israel 
>>> can. Lebanon has a weak army Hezbollah fight for it people and the Jewish 
>>> corruption.  Israel keeps on building more Jewish settlements on 
>>> Palestinian land and America looks the other way. In a similar situation 
>>> will America will get involved to stop the war. In this case America will 
>>> not interfere without approval from Israeli. Therefore America and 
>>> Israeli are partners in crime.
>>>
>>> Kurt Knoll.
>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/USSeal.png
>> JS
> 
> Hummm.....had never noticed the white stars on blue background.  Only five 
> points on the stars in that emblem......time to change them to six points, 
> if the crest is to truly reflect the nature of the country?
> 
> Aussie Infidel 
> 
> 

Yep, my friend, they run this country and most of the world!
Da Green Lizards!-as David Icke say!

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=david+icke

Even Hitler couldn't stop them!
js


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http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/team/squad.html?team=FRA

JS


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Dr. Gassen Burnham wrote:
> Poor old kikes, stumble from one nasty 'accident' to another....USS
> Liberty.....Palestinian school kids.....Lebabnese school kids......UN
> Observers, etc. etc.
> 
> With friends like kikes, who needs enemas?
> 

Funny thing, no Western leader condemn Israel for bombing, killing UN 
observers.
They are just puppets for the USIsrael, yapping and bla-bla about, how 
this war is horrible and should be stopped.
They wont do any thing, until Israel achieve it's aim!
Israel cause 10x more damage in Lebanon than  Hisbala in Israel, but the 
News media only focusing, the damage Israel is getting and their 
suffering, if any!
What a joke!
Stopped watching CNN, FOX etc..., all ways some European looking Jew 
feeding the masses about this war. One can just imagen how bias they are!!!
JS


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Waldo wrote:
> tedrichardson9925@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>> There are a lot of people looking up the Secret Shopper Scam -
>> especially on Google.
>>
>> In the Secret Shopper scam, people are solicited to become "Secret
>> Shoppers" - sometimes known as "Mystery Shoppers" - and go into
>> (normally) Walmart to negotiate a bogus check (Walmart recently got
>> into the business of cashing checks). They are then asked to wire the
>> money using Walmart's MoneyGram services to Canada and report on the
>> "customer service" aspects of their visits.
> 
> 
> 
> They're asked to wire the money to CANADA???
> 
> Say, those MoneyGrams wouldn't by chance be payable to B'nai Brith
> Canada, with the footnote "Nizkor Endowment Fund", would they?
> 
> 
> **
> 
> Waldo
> 
> Observer at Large
> 

Heard Mcvay is behind it! Nizkor not getting much money any more, little 
Israel needs it for bombs, tank, submarines, nuks to rule the world.
JS



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Looks like, not enough Joos invested into this slave shop retailer.
JS

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http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/team/squad.html?team=FRA

JS


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Heinrich wrote:
> In 1941, Nazi Germany established a network of death camps in such places as
> Auschwitz-Birkenau, Treblinka, Sobiobor,and Belzec, for the sole purpose of
> what Adolf Hitler called the Final Solution: the systematic, industrialized
> murder of more than 600 million Jews.
> 
> http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060729/holocaust_survivor_060729/20060729?hub=TopStories&s_name=
> 
> In 1941, Nazi Germany established a network of death camps in such places as 
> Auschwitz-Birkenau, Treblinka, Sobiobor,and Belzec, for the sole purpose of 
> what Adolf Hitler called the Final Solution: the systematic, industrialized 
> murder of more than 600 million Jews.
> 
> http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060729/holocaust_survivor_060729/20060729?hub=TopStories&s_name=
> 
> 
> 
> 
 >>>Many Holocaust survivors have great difficulty talking about what 
they went through, even with their children, and Kerzner was no exception.

"I could tell you stories, but I'm not (going to)," she said. "They're 
too painful." <<<

At least some are honest, don't want to lie, since there is nothing to tell.
JS


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Jewish spirit at work!!!

34 youths among 56 dead in Israeli strike

QANA, Lebanon - An Israeli airstrike killed at least 56 people, 
including at least 34 children, in a southern Lebanese village Sunday, 
the Lebanese Red Cross said. It was the deadliest attack in 19 days of 
fighting. Lebanese security officials put the toll at 57 dead. Security 
officials said the toll rose dramatically after 18 people from two 
families were found in a single room of the building, where dozens of 
people had been taking refuge from the fighting.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060730/ap_on_re_mi_ea/lebanon_israel


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DoD wrote:
>  wrote in message 
> news:jkhqc29cqrb1a4nelmeh9gvs3fdn0kgnfd@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:46:45 GMT, "DoD"  wrote:
>>
>>>  wrote in message
>>> news:qseqc2l2oe6m6ric9sn2v8jc6e7emlogkq@4ax.com...
>>>> Get your revisionist DVD's or see the trailer(24mb) - The Persecution
>>>> of Revisionists: The Holocaust Unveiled
>>> Why?  Your revisionism is just a bunch of b.s.
>>>
>> Then why fear it?
> 
> Who fears it? Its stupid crap. Idiots like you are to be ridiculed not 
> feared. 
> 
> 

You mean, no revisionist historians are in jail at present, because they 
try to tell the truth?
Prove it!
JS


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DoD wrote:
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>>>  wrote in message 
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>>>> On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:46:45 GMT, "DoD"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  wrote in message
>>>>> news:qseqc2l2oe6m6ric9sn2v8jc6e7emlogkq@4ax.com...
>>>>>> Get your revisionist DVD's or see the trailer(24mb) - The Persecution
>>>>>> of Revisionists: The Holocaust Unveiled
>>>>> Why?  Your revisionism is just a bunch of b.s.
>>>>>
>>>> Then why fear it?
>>> Who fears it? Its stupid crap. Idiots like you are to be ridiculed not 
>>> feared.
>> You mean, no revisionist historians are in jail at present, because they 
>> try to tell the truth?
>> Prove it!
> 
> Revisionist is something I don't really care about because only moron 
> wannabe nazis engage in it. So I really wouldn't know if there are or are 
> not. If idiots like 127.0.0.1 and chester the molester wouldn't post to 
> s.c.i. then you wouldn't see any of my posts. But you assclowns can't keep 
> your shit off this group so... 
> 
> 

Well, you should! Since you don't know any thing about it, you opinion 
don't count.
Come back, after you learn about it.
JS


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DoD wrote:
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>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>>> news:xPWdnXXtlr5f-1DZnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> DoD wrote:
>>>>>  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:jkhqc29cqrb1a4nelmeh9gvs3fdn0kgnfd@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:46:45 GMT, "DoD"  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:qseqc2l2oe6m6ric9sn2v8jc6e7emlogkq@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> Get your revisionist DVD's or see the trailer(24mb) - The 
>>>>>>>> Persecution
>>>>>>>> of Revisionists: The Holocaust Unveiled
>>>>>>> Why?  Your revisionism is just a bunch of b.s.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then why fear it?
>>>>> Who fears it? Its stupid crap. Idiots like you are to be ridiculed not 
>>>>> feared.
>>>> You mean, no revisionist historians are in jail at present, because they 
>>>> try to tell the truth?
>>>> Prove it!
>>> Revisionist is something I don't really care about because only moron 
>>> wannabe nazis engage in it. So I really wouldn't know if there are or are 
>>> not. If idiots like 127.0.0.1 and chester the molester wouldn't post to 
>>> s.c.i. then you wouldn't see any of my posts. But you assclowns can't 
>>> keep your shit off this group so...
>> Well, you should! Since you don't know any thing about it, you opinion 
>> don't count.
>> Come back, after you learn about it.
>> JS
> 
> I told you. If you keep chester and 127.0.0.1 from cross posting  then you 
> wouldn't hear my opinions. 
> 
> 

I can't keep any one, nor you away from this NG.
This is a revisionist public forum, means rewriting history!
JS


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