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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Sat Jun  1 09:00:37 PDT 1996
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From: Kevin Alfred Strom 
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Chuck Herrick wrote:
> 
> Roger  wrote:
> 
> >In article 
> >           zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk "Dave Budd" writes:
> 
> >> Aren't there laws against distributing racist material?
> >> Surely the net isn't exempt just because it's electronic?
> >> Who do we report this guy to?
> 
> >What's the point in reporting him. He's so unpleasant that even other
> >racists have to hold their noses in his company. I reckon that Duncan
> >makes more people become liberal than the rest of us put together.
> 
> Your implication is that by making others into Liberals, this guy
> is a Conservative or Republican.
> 
> He's not. He is a bigot.
> 
> As such, he finds no comradeship in either group.
> 
> It is Liberals like you who make others into Conservatives
> by comparing Conservatives with bigots like this blighter.

Here we have it all so neatly wrapped up in one message:

Conservatives and Liberals think alike on the race issue.

And "Aren't there laws against distributing racist material?"

No, the point of view held by the vast majority of Americans until a few 
years ago, and also held by the founding fathers of this country, is not 
yet officially banned or illegal. But the Simon Wiesenthal Center and the 
Anti-Defamation League are working on it.

With best wishes,
-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Sat Jun  1 21:18:37 PDT 1996
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From: Kevin Alfred Strom 
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Chuck Herrick wrote:
> 
> Roger  wrote:
> 
> >In article 
> >           zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk "Dave Budd" writes:
> 
> >> Aren't there laws against distributing racist material?
> >> Surely the net isn't exempt just because it's electronic?
> >> Who do we report this guy to?
> 
> >What's the point in reporting him. He's so unpleasant that even other
> >racists have to hold their noses in his company. I reckon that Duncan
> >makes more people become liberal than the rest of us put together.
> 
> Your implication is that by making others into Liberals, this guy
> is a Conservative or Republican.
> 
> He's not. He is a bigot.
> 
> As such, he finds no comradeship in either group.
> 
> It is Liberals like you who make others into Conservatives
> by comparing Conservatives with bigots like this blighter.

Here we have it all so neatly wrapped up in one message:

Conservatives and Liberals think alike on the race issue.

And "Aren't there laws against distributing racist material?"

No, the point of view held by the vast majority of Americans until a few 
years ago, and also held by the founding fathers of this country, is not 
yet officially banned or illegal. But the Simon Wiesenthal Center and the 
Anti-Defamation League are working on it.

With best wishes,
-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Sun Jun  2 10:57:37 PDT 1996
Article: 21339 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: Kevin Alfred Strom 
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Subject: Re: Free Money!
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Cucarachaboy@scurry.com wrote:
> 
> On 31 May 1996 13:06:19 GMT, zgeist@mail.ee.net (Unknown) wrote:
> 
> *zapped*
> >Can someone tell me the logic behind granting citizenship to the
> >offspring of an illegal alien ?  What part of 'illegal' do we
> >not understand ?
> 
> Its in that damn Constitution thingie.  Buncha liberal TP!
> 


But why restrict it just to Mestizos and others who have run across the 
border to give birth? Aren't the Negroes being born in Port-au-Prince and 
the Chinese being born in Hong Kong equally deserving of American 
citizenship, and privileged status as "oppressed minorities"?

Are you saying that _just because they are born on one side of an 
imaginary, invisible line drawn on a map_ that they are somehow more 
deserving of becoming U.S. citizens? Come on!

That is location-ism!

In fact, why should it only be _new-born_ Mexicans with quick-running 
mothers who get this prize? Why not all the _already-born_ Mexicans? 
Shouldn't they be citizens, too? Why not?

Let's be fair about this -- all non-Whites, everywhere in the world, 
should be given American citizenship whenever they ask for it.

And while, we're at it... why should _American Citzenship_ and its 
benefits be the only thing we give them? I can't think of a single thing 
that we should be allowed to refuse them.

Happy Internetting,


-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Sun Jun  2 11:41:58 PDT 1996
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Craig Lambert, upset again, wrote:
> ...
> >
> In the future, Mr. Strom, I'd appreciate it if you at least put 
> signs or some equivalent in to indicate where you are removing
> material.  In fact, the way you presented the above material (which I
> am presenting unaltered), both your own words and mine are presented
> as my words.  I know and you know what we each said, but let's give
> some consideration to the gallery.  And also, lets clue them in when
> we edit out portions of other people's arguments, ok?
> 

It is obvious by the double and single quote marks who said what. It is 
also my understanding of Netiquette that quotations should be of relevant 
portions only. References are there for those who want to read the 
entire originals. To help you, I shall use "..." for deletia.


....
> >The question wasn't that Communists lie and kill their own whenever their
> >version of power politics makes it expedient to do so. We all knew that.
> >
> Its just a matter then of my belief that Joe Stalin only told the
> truth by mistake, and your position that if what Stalin says accords
> with your prejudices, you want others to buy it as true.  You pass in
> silence by my point that Joe Stalin was himself an anti-semite who
> himself persecuted Jews.  These verifiable actions leave this
> notorious liar's mere words about punishing anti-semitism with death
> sounding a bit hollow, don't they?
> 

I have provided several references showing both Jewish and non-Jewish 
Communists and Soviets stating that "anti-Semitism" was a crime in the 
Soviet Union (or ought to be one in the United States). Stalin said that 
"active anti-Semites" in the Soviet Union were being punished with death.

Now, I agree that law in most countries is what the elite says it is, and 
that was especially so in the Soviet Union. And I agree that Stalin 
killed anyone who got in his way, including not a few Jews.

But the repeated pronouncements of leading Communists as to their 
position on this issue, coupled with the Jewish preponderance in the 
founding of the Bolshevik state, lead me to believe that fervent if not 
violent opposition to "anti-Semitism" was in fact one of the founding 
principles of Soviet Communism. And my reading in the field also leads me 
to believe that the inheritors of the Marxist mantle in the West today, 
in almost all of their factions and sects, would continue to adhere to 
that position.

I have provided ample documentation of my thesis. If, after this 
clarification, you still disagree with my thesis, then please provide 
some evidence.

With sincere best wishes,

-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Sun Jun  2 11:41:58 PDT 1996
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Craig Lambert, getting really upset again, wrote:

> ...
> 
> I had meant to ask, too, but forgot earlier, just where the large
> tract of 'uninhabited and undeveloped' land in Africa you speak of is?
> And you are seriously proposing that the white population leave
> America and move to this place in Africa?  Really?  Surely this is a
> mere rhetorical flight of fancy?
> 

I am saying that having our own nation again is worth any price in toil 
or money.


> You may go with my blessing, Mr. Strom, though you're on your own
> dealing with the inhabitants you'll have to displace.
> ...
> Well, you offered to leave, so the rest of us can just go on now like
> we are, in our current multiracial state.  You won't have to displace
> any Americans, seize any property, force anyone to move, put any
> resistors into camps, or suspend anybodies rights. You just leave.
> Beautiful.  Goodbye: glad to see you have the courage of your
> convictions.  Be sure to pack plenty of fresh water.
> 

Well, millions of White Americans didn't want the borders opened in 1965, 
but both political parties sold them out. We wanted "to go on now, just 
like we are" in our then-current White communities, with laws protecting 
our racial integrity. But an unelected revolutionary tribunal in occupied 
Washington, DC, invalidated our ancient laws overnight with the stroke of 
a pen.

"No one will have to be displaced..." Look at Los Angeles -- look at New 
York City. White people _have_ been displaced. We, already a tiny 
minority of the planet's population, will soon be a minority in the 
United States. That is dispossession, Mr. Lambert.

"Property won't have to be seized..." Property of White people _has_ been 
seized by legal trickery, again and again, and often used to accelerate 
our dispossession. Since the "civil rights" revolution, the Black 
underclass has cost us more than the entire value of the 500 largest 
corporations in the United States. Some of the once most valuable real 
estate in this nation has been made worthless and is now literally 
abandoned and inhabited by drug-shooting squatters in Detroit and other 
cities.

"Force anyone to move..." You've got to be kidding.

No, White people moved out of Washington, DC, after segregation was 
outlawed, because, uhhh... because they wanted to live in a more remote 
area and drive on the Beltway... yeah, that's it.

White Americans have been forced to move by the racial warfare that 
multiracialism always brings to any society that tries it. Multiracialism 
brought about deaths, beatings, rapes, and other outrages against tens of 
thousands of White men, women and children. They have fled from the 
hell-holes that our cities have become. They were forced to move, Mr. 
Lambert.

"Camps for resisters... suspend anybody's rights..." Oh, no. 
_Multiracialists never do that_! Are you unaware of the growing corpus of 
legislation which criminalizes so-called "hate speech" around the world? 
Are you aware of the number of people who have been imprisoned or had 
their rights curtailed or been fined for expressing political opinions 
contrary to multiracialism? Have you heard of the criminal prosecution of 
the Centre Party 86 in the Netherlands for merely using the slogan "Our 
People First" in an election campaign?

The multiracialist regimes now in power in the West _are in fact doing_ 
everything you falsely accuse separatists of.


....
> 
> Well, its only prudent to see if the means impact at all on the
> desirability.  If you are going to have to suspend our Civil liberties
> and plunge us into blood drenched ethnic cleansing a la the former
> Yugoslavia, that impacts the 'desirability' of your goal, don't you
> think?


Good fences make good neighbors. I suggest that forcing incompatible 
peoples to live under one government is a _cause_ of bloody conflict, in 
both Yugoslavia and the former America.

It is bringing the races together which causes racial conflict. I want 
racial conflict to end, and I propose that each people that considers 
itself separate be allowed to be separate, and to govern itself as it 
sees fit. This is only basic self-determination. To deny that right is 
genocidal.

To follow the path of enforced multiracialism will only result in an 
escalation if not an explosion of the current racial conflict which is 
ripping this country apart. To deal with this, the government will 
respond with ever-increasing "security" measures, restrictive laws, no 
personal or financial privacy in the interest of "national security" and 
"law and order," the building of so many prisons that it may well surpass 
computers as our fastest-growing segment of the economy. Is this really 
what you want?

Do you really believe that "we can all live together in peace" and 
continue to build a consensus in a Third World America with no clear 
majority group? Good luck.

Buy stock in the new private prison companies (Wackenhut Corrections 
Corporation comes to mind, and there are others), and maybe you'll get 
rich enough to protect yourself behind security fences like the elite in 
Mexico, Rio, and New York City do.



....
> No, you don't understand.  You are in charge.  Lives, money and policy
> depend on your decisions.  You can't just vaguely say 'there are
> ways,' you have to decide, now, who has to leave their homes and their
> jobs and their churches and the place they want to live and move
> elsewhere because they don't, under your new system, belong.  You will
> be telling people where they can live, who they can marry, how they
> must raise their children.  You won't be able to generalize then, show
> us you have a handle on these issues now.
> 


When we still had our own nation, we _did_ decide where we would live, 
and who we would associate with, and who we would hire, and how we would 
raise our children. The current regime has taken all of those rights away 
>from  us. I propose to restore them. And further, I propose that no people 
except our own be subject to White laws or judges or standards or tests 
or anything else. I would give each people its freedom and 
self-determination.

I further suggest that such governments would be much more in harmony 
with, and closer to, the communities of people which they represent.

I further suggest that such a devolution away from multiracial empires 
and away from internationalism would provide more opportunities for 
political dissidents to find a refuge from persecution. With the growth 
of international institutions and world bodies, a structure is being 
built which would allow elites to oppress or imprison any who oppose them 
-- there may soon be literally no place to hide from their power.

We have already discussed the issue of compensation, and as for 
timetables, I am willing to also be generous to a fault. Restoration of 
freedom of association should be immediate, of course. What a difference 
that would make by itself!



....
> Well since you've offered to leave, I guess you can start organizing
> things right now.  Anyway, I don't imagine you are part of the current
> elite, however your current 'forward' thinking in the matter of racial
> separation probably means people drawn to that will look to you when
> such a movement emerges.  In other words, I think you are evading the
> issue, and though I expect that, its not a good sign for your cause.
> 
> >Let a commission sit, made up of leaders of each nation within our
> >borders, and work out the remaining details. If the Jews and the
> >Palestinians can do it, surely anyone can.
> >
> Well, if you want to leave, you have that right and as I say my
> blessing.  But if you want to cut up my country, no, I don't see that
> as a matter of negotiation.  You may leave if you don't like it, I can
> leave if I don't like it, but our country goes on as a liberal (in the
> classic sense) democratic republic, a joint enterprise of its
> citizens,  one nation.
> 
> >Voluntary racial separation, with a state for those who choose not to
> >separate also: the non-violent way for freedom, self-determination, and
> >the preservation of _true_ diversity on this planet.
> >
> You may voluntarily separate yourself RIGHT NOW, so have at it.  You
> have some other plans though, I think they deserve to be aired.

Oh, yes, Mr. Lambert. My plans are that all who would prefer to live in 
an all-White nation be allowed to do so. And my principles require 
self-determination for other peoples as well. That is the only way to 
minimize racial conflict. That is the only way to prevent the eventual 
extinction of my people, and it is perfectly in harmony with the 
intentions of the founders of America.

Now, try not to get so upset next time.

With sincere good wishes,

-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Sun Jun  2 11:41:59 PDT 1996
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Cucarachaboy@scurry.com wrote:
> 
> On 31 May 1996 13:06:19 GMT, zgeist@mail.ee.net (Unknown) wrote:
> 
> *zapped*
> >Can someone tell me the logic behind granting citizenship to the
> >offspring of an illegal alien ?  What part of 'illegal' do we
> >not understand ?
> 
> Its in that damn Constitution thingie.  Buncha liberal TP!
> 


But why restrict it just to Mestizos and others who have run across the 
border to give birth? Aren't the Negroes being born in Port-au-Prince and 
the Chinese being born in Hong Kong equally deserving of American 
citizenship, and privileged status as "oppressed minorities"?

Are you saying that _just because they are born on one side of an 
imaginary, invisible line drawn on a map_ that they are somehow more 
deserving of becoming U.S. citizens? Come on!

That is location-ism!

In fact, why should it only be _new-born_ Mexicans with quick-running 
mothers who get this prize? Why not all the _already-born_ Mexicans? 
Shouldn't they be citizens, too? Why not?

Let's be fair about this -- all non-Whites, everywhere in the world, 
should be given American citizenship whenever they ask for it.

And while, we're at it... why should _American Citzenship_ and its 
benefits be the only thing we give them? I can't think of a single thing 
that we should be allowed to refuse them.

Happy Internetting,


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Cucarachaboy@scurry.com wrote:
> 
> On 31 May 1996 13:06:19 GMT, zgeist@mail.ee.net (Unknown) wrote:
> 
> *zapped*
> >Can someone tell me the logic behind granting citizenship to the
> >offspring of an illegal alien ?  What part of 'illegal' do we
> >not understand ?
> 
> Its in that damn Constitution thingie.  Buncha liberal TP!
> 


But why restrict it just to Mestizos and others who have run across the 
border to give birth? Aren't the Negroes being born in Port-au-Prince and 
the Chinese being born in Hong Kong equally deserving of American 
citizenship, and privileged status as "oppressed minorities"?

Are you saying that _just because they are born on one side of an 
imaginary, invisible line drawn on a map_ that they are somehow more 
deserving of becoming U.S. citizens? Come on!

That is location-ism!

In fact, why should it only be _new-born_ Mexicans with quick-running 
mothers who get this prize? Why not all the _already-born_ Mexicans? 
Shouldn't they be citizens, too? Why not?

Let's be fair about this -- all non-Whites, everywhere in the world, 
should be given American citizenship whenever they ask for it.

And while, we're at it... why should _American Citzenship_ and its 
benefits be the only thing we give them? I can't think of a single thing 
that we should be allowed to refuse them.

Happy Internetting,


-- 


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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Sun Jun  2 19:51:49 PDT 1996
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tim decker wrote:
> 
> Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
> >
> > Was Earl Warren a Communist? I doubt that he joined the party -- it might
> > have hurt his political career. I do know that Communist Party, USA
> > official Dorothy Healy was fulsome in praise of him.
> >
> 
> So was my grandmother.   DAMN!!!!!!!!  He must have been a
> gooseberry pie baking Republican.
> 
> Be seriuos.
> 
> None of these claims about MLK can be substantiated until the
> government releases the FBI file.
> 
> td

Read the article I wrote. The Communist connections of "Martin Luther 
King" are well-documented. Even Garrow, who supported King, admits as 
much.

Earl Warren: While Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, Earl Warren made 
friendly visits at taxpayer expense to Communist heads of state in 
Poland, Czechoslovakia, and Yugoslavia. (This was at the height of the 
Cold War. Perhaps he met Bill Clinton over there.) Of six such foreign 
trips, five were to visit states of the Communist bloc. So pro-Communist 
was the Warren court that Communist Party spokeswoman Dorothy Healy said 
on June 17, 1957, of three simultaneous decisions made by the court that 
day dismantling anti-Communist legislation, "This is the greatest victory 
the Communist Party ever had."

Warren was a darling of the anti-McCarthy clique in the Republican party, 
and was made a justice for being on the right side when Eisenhower 
slipped one over on the boobs and got elected as a "conservative" in 
1952. His legal experience was minimal.

Four days after the assassination of President Kennedy in 1963, the 
Communist newspaper, _The Worker_ stated:

"We believe that President Johnson on the one hand and Congress on the 
other should act at once to appoint respective extraordinary 
investigating commissions with full power to conduct a searching inquiry 
into all the circumstances around the assassination of the President and 
the murder of the suspect. Such an investigating commission, headed by 
the chief Justice of the Supreme Court, should be composed of citizens 
and experts who enjoy the confidence of the nation."

Two days after this Communist editorial appeared, Lyndon Baines Johnson 
appointed the Chief Justice, Mr. Earl Warren, to head his President's 
Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy, popularly known as 
the Warren Commission.

It has been over sixty years since our enemies effectively took power in 
this country, and the boobs still don't get it.

With my best wishes,

-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Sun Jun  2 20:07:10 PDT 1996
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tim decker wrote:
> 
> Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
> >
> > Was Earl Warren a Communist? I doubt that he joined the party -- it might
> > have hurt his political career. I do know that Communist Party, USA
> > official Dorothy Healy was fulsome in praise of him.
> >
> 
> So was my grandmother.   DAMN!!!!!!!!  He must have been a
> gooseberry pie baking Republican.
> 
> Be seriuos.
> 
> None of these claims about MLK can be substantiated until the
> government releases the FBI file.
> 
> td

Read the article I wrote. The Communist connections of "Martin Luther 
King" are well-documented. Even Garrow, who supported King, admits as 
much.

Earl Warren: While Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, Earl Warren made 
friendly visits at taxpayer expense to Communist heads of state in 
Poland, Czechoslovakia, and Yugoslavia. (This was at the height of the 
Cold War. Perhaps he met Bill Clinton over there.) Of six such foreign 
trips, five were to visit states of the Communist bloc. So pro-Communist 
was the Warren court that Communist Party spokeswoman Dorothy Healy said 
on June 17, 1957, of three simultaneous decisions made by the court that 
day dismantling anti-Communist legislation, "This is the greatest victory 
the Communist Party ever had."

Warren was a darling of the anti-McCarthy clique in the Republican party, 
and was made a justice for being on the right side when Eisenhower 
slipped one over on the boobs and got elected as a "conservative" in 
1952. His legal experience was minimal.

Four days after the assassination of President Kennedy in 1963, the 
Communist newspaper, _The Worker_ stated:

"We believe that President Johnson on the one hand and Congress on the 
other should act at once to appoint respective extraordinary 
investigating commissions with full power to conduct a searching inquiry 
into all the circumstances around the assassination of the President and 
the murder of the suspect. Such an investigating commission, headed by 
the chief Justice of the Supreme Court, should be composed of citizens 
and experts who enjoy the confidence of the nation."

Two days after this Communist editorial appeared, Lyndon Baines Johnson 
appointed the Chief Justice, Mr. Earl Warren, to head his President's 
Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy, popularly known as 
the Warren Commission.

It has been over sixty years since our enemies effectively took power in 
this country, and the boobs still don't get it.

With my best wishes,

-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Mon Jun  3 09:08:29 PDT 1996
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Subject: Jesse Owens and the 1936 Olympics
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Eugene Holman wrote:

> ...
> 
> Adolph Hitler demonstrated the stupidity of race-based chauvinsim. My
> favorite example of his obtuseness comes from the 1936 Olympics. Before
> the Olympics Hitler and his crew claimed that "Aryans", were the master
> race and would win all the medals. But Jesse Owens, an American black,
> took three gold medals. Hitler, angered and embarrassed, greeted all the
> other gold medalists, but refused to shake hands with Owens because he was
> black. After the Olympics German propagandists explained Owens
> achievements as resulting from the more primitive, animal-like nature of
> Negros.
> 
>

You are wrong on several counts. First, you give too little credit to 
Jesse Owen's athletic ability. He won four gold medals, not three, and in 
the process broke two Olympic records.

Adolf Hitler never stated that "Aryans would win all the medals." 
Everyone, except the most deranged of equalitarians, realizes that each 
race has its fields of athletic excellence. Blacks are excellent runners, 
particularly sprinters, among other things.

Hitler, on the first day of the track and field competition, received a 
few athletes in his box and shook their hands, specifically Hans Woellke, 
the first German winner in a track and field event since the inception of 
the modern Olympics in 1896. The next day, before Mr. Owens had won any 
medals, Count Baillet-Latour, chairman of the International Olympic 
Committee, informed Hitler that he had violated protocol by receiving 
winners in his box. Thereafter he did not publicly congratulate _any_ 
athletes. So he never "snubbed" Jesse Owens.

Owens himself states that he was not snubbed by Hitler:

"When I passed the Chancellor he arose, waved his hand at me, and I waved 
back at him. I think the writers showed bad taste in criticizing the man 
of the hour in Germany." Owens also contrasted this with Franklin 
Roosevelt's refusal to see him after he returned to America during that 
election year.

Happy Internetting,

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Mon Jun  3 09:08:30 PDT 1996
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Hemicuda:

You make many interesting points, and I applaud the efforts being made to
protect our heritage by those in the political arena. The fact that David
Duke received over 60 per cent. of the _counted_ White vote in Louisiana
after a campaign of vilification unprecedented in American politics is
extremely encouraging.

The consciousness-raising arena and the growth of White-interest
organizations complement the political efforts, and will continue to have
value even when our political rights are suspended and when our most
reasonable requests are rejected by the current elite.

With all good wishes,



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Jim Kennemur wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 02 Jun 1996 12:43:27 -0700, Kevin Alfred Strom
>  wrote:
> 
> >RE -- Documentation of the fact that many of Martin Luther King's closest
> >associates were Communists:
> >
> >On Labor Day, 1957, a special meeting was attended by Martin Luther King
> >and four others at a strange institution called the Highlander Folk
> >School in Monteagle, Tennessee. The Highlander Folk School was a
> >Communist front, having been founded by Myles Horton (Communist Party
> >organizer for Tennessee) and Don West (Communist Party organizer for
> >North Carolina). The leaders of this meeting with King were the
> >aforementioned Horton and West, along with Abner Berry and James
> >Dumbrowski, all open and acknowledged members of the Communist Party,
> >USA. The agenda of the meeting was a plan to tour the Southern states to
> >initiate demonstrations and riots.
> 
> *Several pages of Bircher Bullshit snipped in the interest of any
> young impressionable minds that might be on the Internet!...


I wrote the post. I am not a member of the John Birch Society.


> (Just
> practicing for when ex-Senator Exxon becomes Grand Net Inquisitor).
> 
> What? No land deal with Bill Clinton?
> 
> You could have wrapped all your paranoid delusions up into one nice
> package.
> 
> What a right-wing maroon!
> 
>      Jim


I have provided documented evidence of my position that "Martin Luther 
King, Jr" was a Marxist and that many of his closest associates were 
Communists.

Calling me a "maroon" does not alter the facts, and it might tend to give 
the impression that you have lost the argument -- which you in fact have.

Better luck next time.

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Mon Jun  3 09:08:32 PDT 1996
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Eugene Holman wrote:

> ...
> 
> Certainly Irish-Americans, British-Americans, German-Americans,
> Jewish-Americans are, and have every right to be proud of their heritage,
> just as do all other groups. But is there any reason for you, an
> Icelandic-American, a Danish-American, and a German-American, let us say,
> to be proud of the fact that you have a certain complexion or a certain
> hair texture, attribute certain achievements to these superficial
> attributes, and then exclude, let us say, a Jew, a Polish-American, or an
> Italian-American (northern Italians are often blond and blue-eyed) who
> might have precisely the same hair color and complexion, because he is
> 'white' but not 'White'.
> 

Mr. Holman, you are just setting up a straw man in order to knock him 
down. Poles and Italians not White? What planet are you living on?

As for the Jews, I would agree that in some of them the Armenoid and 
Palestinian genes are so diluted that they are for all practical purposes 
Europeans -- if it were not for their own powerful consciousness of their 
uniqueness, and their single-minded pursuit of their anti-nationalist 
agenda.

You seem to have an obsession about the capitalization of the word 
"white," as if the uncapitalized version signifies a different racial 
category. Where did you get this peculiar idea?

When it is used to describe the color of a fencepost or a shirt, the word 
is not capitalized. But, when used to describe a group of people, many 
capitalize it as they would capitalize "Black," "Asian," "Apache," or 
"Hoosier." It is a form of granting respect to the name of a people. I 
suppose if I consistently capitalized everyone else's name, but always 
referred to you as "eugene holman," you might think I was belittling you.

White Americans -- and Whites around the world -- are, in increasing 
numbers, beginning to see themselves as a people with a common history 
and common interests and values. Whites instinctively feel a kinship that 
they do not feel with Arabs, Africans, Asians, or Australoids. They 
inwardly respond to Beethoven as they cannot respond to the call from the 
Minaret or the beat of African drums. They are inspired by the Gothic 
spires of Germany and Spain, and the Parthenon, the Pantheon and the Arch 
of Titus; but the Wailing Wall and the altars of the Incas, fascinating 
though they may be, remain alien.

The fact that other races see us as one people aids this process of 
rising racial consciousness.

A similar situation prevails among Blacks. A people is awakening, and 
taking steps to take charge of its own desitiny.

Such is the way that peoples and nations are formed. Such is the way of 
Nature.

And the tut-tuts from the ivory towers of the academic elite will not 
stop this process.

With all good wishes,

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RE -- Documentation of the fact that many of Martin Luther King's closest 
associates were Communists:

On Labor Day, 1957, a special meeting was attended by Martin Luther King 
and four others at a strange institution called the Highlander Folk 
School in Monteagle, Tennessee. The Highlander Folk School was a 
Communist front, having been founded by Myles Horton (Communist Party
organizer for Tennessee) and Don West (Communist Party organizer for 
North Carolina). The leaders of this meeting with King were the 
aforementioned Horton and West, along with Abner Berry and James 
Dumbrowski, all open and acknowledged members of the Communist Party,
USA. The agenda of the meeting was a plan to tour the Southern states to 
initiate demonstrations and riots.

>From  1955 to 1960, Martin Luther King's associate, advisor, and personal 
secretary was one Bayard Rustin. In 1936 Rustin joined the Young 
Communist League at New York City College. Convicted of draft-dodging, he 
went to prison for two years in 1944. On January 23, 1953, the "Los 
Angeles Times" reported his conviction and sentencing to jail for 60 days 
for lewd vagrancy and homosexual perversion. Rustin attended the 16th 
Convention of the Communist Party, USA in February, 1957. One month 
later, he and King founded the Southern Christian  Leadership
Conference, or SCLC for short. The president of the SCLC was Dr. Martin 
Luther King, Jr. The vice-president of the SCLC was the Reverend Fred 
Shuttlesworth, who was also the president of an identified Communist 
front known as the Southern Conference Educational Fund, an organization 
whose field director, a Mr. Carl Braden, was simultaneously a national 
sponsor of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, of which you may have heard. 
The program director of the SCLC was the Reverend Andrew Young, in more 
recent years Jimmy Carter's ambassador to the UN and mayor of Atlanta. 
Young, by the way, was trained at the Highlander Folk School, previously 
mentioned.

Soon after returning from a trip to Moscow in 1958, Rustin organized the 
first of King's famous marches on Washington. The official organ of the 
Communist Party, "The Worker," openly declared the march to be a 
Communist project. Although he left King's employ as secretary in
1961, Rustin was called upon by King to be second in command of the much 
larger march on Washington which took place on August 28, 1964.

Bayard Rustin's replacement in 1961 as secretary and advisor to King was 
Jack O'Dell, also known as Hunter Pitts O'Dell. According to official 
records, in 1962 Jack O'Dell was a member of the National Committee of 
the Communist Party, USA. He had been listed as a Communist Party member 
as early as 1956. O'Dell was also given the job of acting executive 
director for SCLC activities for the entire Southeast, according to the 
St. Louis "Globe-Democrat" of October 26, 1962. At that time, there were 
still some patriots in the press corps, and word of O'Dell's party 
membership became known.

What did King do? Shortly after the negative news reports, King fired 
O'Dell with much fanfare. And he then, without the fanfare, _immediately 
hired him again_ as director of the New York office of the SCLC, as 
confirmed by the "Richmond News-Leader" of September 27, 1963.

In 1963 a Black man from Monroe, North Carolina named Robert Williams 
made a trip to Peking, China. Exactly 20 days before King's 1964 march on 
Washington, Williams successfully urged Mao Tse-Tung to speak out on 
behalf of King's movement. Mr. Williams was also around this time 
maintaining his primary residence in Cuba, from which he made regular 
broadcasts to the southern US, three times a week, from high-power AM 
transmitters in Havana under the title "Radio Free Dixie." In these 
broadcasts, he urged violent attacks by Blacks against White Americans.

During this period, Williams wrote a book entitled "Negroes With Guns." 
The writer of the foreword for this book? None other than Martin Luther 
King, Jr.  It is also interesting to note that the editors and publishers 
of this book were to a man all supporters of the infamous Fair Play for
Cuba Committee.

According to King's biographer and sympathizer David J. Garrow, "King 
privately described himself as a Marxist." In his 1981 book, "The FBI and 
Martin Luther King, Jr.", Garrow quotes King as saying in SCLC staff 
meetings, "...we have moved into a new era, which must be an era of 
revolution.... The whole structure of American life must be changed.... 
We are engaged in the class struggle."

Jewish Communist Stanley Levison can best be described as King's 
behind-the-scenes "handler." Levison, who had for years been in charge of 
the secret funnelling of Soviet funds to the Communist Party, USA, was 
King's mentor and was actually the brains behind many of King's more 
successful ploys. It was Levison who edited King's book, "Stride Toward 
Freedom." It was Levison who arranged for a publisher. Levison even 
prepared King's income tax returns! It was Levison who really controlled 
the fund-raising and agitation activities of the SCLC. Levison wrote many 
of King's speeches. King described Levison as one of his "closest 
friends."


Now, ladies and gentlemen, the issue of Martin Luther King's close 
association with Communists is established approximately as firmly as 
is Steven Spielberg's association with the movie industry.

The really interesting thing about the associations of King is that, 
despite massive documentation, they are not more widely known. Could it 
be that the current establishment has a vested interest in keeping the 
truth from getting to the great unwashed? Nahhh... that couldn't be.

With my sincere best wishes,
-- 


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Jim Kennemur wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 02 Jun 1996 12:43:27 -0700, Kevin Alfred Strom
>  wrote:
> 
> >RE -- Documentation of the fact that many of Martin Luther King's closest
> >associates were Communists:
> >
> >On Labor Day, 1957, a special meeting was attended by Martin Luther King
> >and four others at a strange institution called the Highlander Folk
> >School in Monteagle, Tennessee. The Highlander Folk School was a
> >Communist front, having been founded by Myles Horton (Communist Party
> >organizer for Tennessee) and Don West (Communist Party organizer for
> >North Carolina). The leaders of this meeting with King were the
> >aforementioned Horton and West, along with Abner Berry and James
> >Dumbrowski, all open and acknowledged members of the Communist Party,
> >USA. The agenda of the meeting was a plan to tour the Southern states to
> >initiate demonstrations and riots.
> 
> *Several pages of Bircher Bullshit snipped in the interest of any
> young impressionable minds that might be on the Internet!...


I wrote the post. I am not a member of the John Birch Society.


> (Just
> practicing for when ex-Senator Exxon becomes Grand Net Inquisitor).
> 
> What? No land deal with Bill Clinton?
> 
> You could have wrapped all your paranoid delusions up into one nice
> package.
> 
> What a right-wing maroon!
> 
>      Jim


I have provided documented evidence of my position that "Martin Luther 
King, Jr" was a Marxist and that many of his closest associates were 
Communists.

Calling me a "maroon" does not alter the facts, and it might tend to give 
the impression that you have lost the argument -- which you in fact have.

Better luck next time.

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RE -- Documentation of the fact that many of Martin Luther King's closest 
associates were Communists:

On Labor Day, 1957, a special meeting was attended by Martin Luther King 
and four others at a strange institution called the Highlander Folk 
School in Monteagle, Tennessee. The Highlander Folk School was a 
Communist front, having been founded by Myles Horton (Communist Party
organizer for Tennessee) and Don West (Communist Party organizer for 
North Carolina). The leaders of this meeting with King were the 
aforementioned Horton and West, along with Abner Berry and James 
Dumbrowski, all open and acknowledged members of the Communist Party,
USA. The agenda of the meeting was a plan to tour the Southern states to 
initiate demonstrations and riots.

>From  1955 to 1960, Martin Luther King's associate, advisor, and personal 
secretary was one Bayard Rustin. In 1936 Rustin joined the Young 
Communist League at New York City College. Convicted of draft-dodging, he 
went to prison for two years in 1944. On January 23, 1953, the "Los 
Angeles Times" reported his conviction and sentencing to jail for 60 days 
for lewd vagrancy and homosexual perversion. Rustin attended the 16th 
Convention of the Communist Party, USA in February, 1957. One month 
later, he and King founded the Southern Christian  Leadership
Conference, or SCLC for short. The president of the SCLC was Dr. Martin 
Luther King, Jr. The vice-president of the SCLC was the Reverend Fred 
Shuttlesworth, who was also the president of an identified Communist 
front known as the Southern Conference Educational Fund, an organization 
whose field director, a Mr. Carl Braden, was simultaneously a national 
sponsor of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, of which you may have heard. 
The program director of the SCLC was the Reverend Andrew Young, in more 
recent years Jimmy Carter's ambassador to the UN and mayor of Atlanta. 
Young, by the way, was trained at the Highlander Folk School, previously 
mentioned.

Soon after returning from a trip to Moscow in 1958, Rustin organized the 
first of King's famous marches on Washington. The official organ of the 
Communist Party, "The Worker," openly declared the march to be a 
Communist project. Although he left King's employ as secretary in
1961, Rustin was called upon by King to be second in command of the much 
larger march on Washington which took place on August 28, 1964.

Bayard Rustin's replacement in 1961 as secretary and advisor to King was 
Jack O'Dell, also known as Hunter Pitts O'Dell. According to official 
records, in 1962 Jack O'Dell was a member of the National Committee of 
the Communist Party, USA. He had been listed as a Communist Party member 
as early as 1956. O'Dell was also given the job of acting executive 
director for SCLC activities for the entire Southeast, according to the 
St. Louis "Globe-Democrat" of October 26, 1962. At that time, there were 
still some patriots in the press corps, and word of O'Dell's party 
membership became known.

What did King do? Shortly after the negative news reports, King fired 
O'Dell with much fanfare. And he then, without the fanfare, _immediately 
hired him again_ as director of the New York office of the SCLC, as 
confirmed by the "Richmond News-Leader" of September 27, 1963.

In 1963 a Black man from Monroe, North Carolina named Robert Williams 
made a trip to Peking, China. Exactly 20 days before King's 1964 march on 
Washington, Williams successfully urged Mao Tse-Tung to speak out on 
behalf of King's movement. Mr. Williams was also around this time 
maintaining his primary residence in Cuba, from which he made regular 
broadcasts to the southern US, three times a week, from high-power AM 
transmitters in Havana under the title "Radio Free Dixie." In these 
broadcasts, he urged violent attacks by Blacks against White Americans.

During this period, Williams wrote a book entitled "Negroes With Guns." 
The writer of the foreword for this book? None other than Martin Luther 
King, Jr.  It is also interesting to note that the editors and publishers 
of this book were to a man all supporters of the infamous Fair Play for
Cuba Committee.

According to King's biographer and sympathizer David J. Garrow, "King 
privately described himself as a Marxist." In his 1981 book, "The FBI and 
Martin Luther King, Jr.", Garrow quotes King as saying in SCLC staff 
meetings, "...we have moved into a new era, which must be an era of 
revolution.... The whole structure of American life must be changed.... 
We are engaged in the class struggle."

Jewish Communist Stanley Levison can best be described as King's 
behind-the-scenes "handler." Levison, who had for years been in charge of 
the secret funnelling of Soviet funds to the Communist Party, USA, was 
King's mentor and was actually the brains behind many of King's more 
successful ploys. It was Levison who edited King's book, "Stride Toward 
Freedom." It was Levison who arranged for a publisher. Levison even 
prepared King's income tax returns! It was Levison who really controlled 
the fund-raising and agitation activities of the SCLC. Levison wrote many 
of King's speeches. King described Levison as one of his "closest 
friends."


Now, ladies and gentlemen, the issue of Martin Luther King's close 
association with Communists is established approximately as firmly as 
is Steven Spielberg's association with the movie industry.

The really interesting thing about the associations of King is that, 
despite massive documentation, they are not more widely known. Could it 
be that the current establishment has a vested interest in keeping the 
truth from getting to the great unwashed? Nahhh... that couldn't be.

With my sincere best wishes,
-- 


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Jim Kennemur wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 02 Jun 1996 12:43:27 -0700, Kevin Alfred Strom
>  wrote:
> 
> >RE -- Documentation of the fact that many of Martin Luther King's closest
> >associates were Communists:
> >
> >On Labor Day, 1957, a special meeting was attended by Martin Luther King
> >and four others at a strange institution called the Highlander Folk
> >School in Monteagle, Tennessee. The Highlander Folk School was a
> >Communist front, having been founded by Myles Horton (Communist Party
> >organizer for Tennessee) and Don West (Communist Party organizer for
> >North Carolina). The leaders of this meeting with King were the
> >aforementioned Horton and West, along with Abner Berry and James
> >Dumbrowski, all open and acknowledged members of the Communist Party,
> >USA. The agenda of the meeting was a plan to tour the Southern states to
> >initiate demonstrations and riots.
> 
> *Several pages of Bircher Bullshit snipped in the interest of any
> young impressionable minds that might be on the Internet!...


I wrote the post. I am not a member of the John Birch Society.


> (Just
> practicing for when ex-Senator Exxon becomes Grand Net Inquisitor).
> 
> What? No land deal with Bill Clinton?
> 
> You could have wrapped all your paranoid delusions up into one nice
> package.
> 
> What a right-wing maroon!
> 
>      Jim


I have provided documented evidence of my position that "Martin Luther 
King, Jr" was a Marxist and that many of his closest associates were 
Communists.

Calling me a "maroon" does not alter the facts, and it might tend to give 
the impression that you have lost the argument -- which you in fact have.

Better luck next time.

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RE -- Documentation of the fact that many of Martin Luther King's closest 
associates were Communists:

On Labor Day, 1957, a special meeting was attended by Martin Luther King 
and four others at a strange institution called the Highlander Folk 
School in Monteagle, Tennessee. The Highlander Folk School was a 
Communist front, having been founded by Myles Horton (Communist Party
organizer for Tennessee) and Don West (Communist Party organizer for 
North Carolina). The leaders of this meeting with King were the 
aforementioned Horton and West, along with Abner Berry and James 
Dumbrowski, all open and acknowledged members of the Communist Party,
USA. The agenda of the meeting was a plan to tour the Southern states to 
initiate demonstrations and riots.

>From  1955 to 1960, Martin Luther King's associate, advisor, and personal 
secretary was one Bayard Rustin. In 1936 Rustin joined the Young 
Communist League at New York City College. Convicted of draft-dodging, he 
went to prison for two years in 1944. On January 23, 1953, the "Los 
Angeles Times" reported his conviction and sentencing to jail for 60 days 
for lewd vagrancy and homosexual perversion. Rustin attended the 16th 
Convention of the Communist Party, USA in February, 1957. One month 
later, he and King founded the Southern Christian  Leadership
Conference, or SCLC for short. The president of the SCLC was Dr. Martin 
Luther King, Jr. The vice-president of the SCLC was the Reverend Fred 
Shuttlesworth, who was also the president of an identified Communist 
front known as the Southern Conference Educational Fund, an organization 
whose field director, a Mr. Carl Braden, was simultaneously a national 
sponsor of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, of which you may have heard. 
The program director of the SCLC was the Reverend Andrew Young, in more 
recent years Jimmy Carter's ambassador to the UN and mayor of Atlanta. 
Young, by the way, was trained at the Highlander Folk School, previously 
mentioned.

Soon after returning from a trip to Moscow in 1958, Rustin organized the 
first of King's famous marches on Washington. The official organ of the 
Communist Party, "The Worker," openly declared the march to be a 
Communist project. Although he left King's employ as secretary in
1961, Rustin was called upon by King to be second in command of the much 
larger march on Washington which took place on August 28, 1964.

Bayard Rustin's replacement in 1961 as secretary and advisor to King was 
Jack O'Dell, also known as Hunter Pitts O'Dell. According to official 
records, in 1962 Jack O'Dell was a member of the National Committee of 
the Communist Party, USA. He had been listed as a Communist Party member 
as early as 1956. O'Dell was also given the job of acting executive 
director for SCLC activities for the entire Southeast, according to the 
St. Louis "Globe-Democrat" of October 26, 1962. At that time, there were 
still some patriots in the press corps, and word of O'Dell's party 
membership became known.

What did King do? Shortly after the negative news reports, King fired 
O'Dell with much fanfare. And he then, without the fanfare, _immediately 
hired him again_ as director of the New York office of the SCLC, as 
confirmed by the "Richmond News-Leader" of September 27, 1963.

In 1963 a Black man from Monroe, North Carolina named Robert Williams 
made a trip to Peking, China. Exactly 20 days before King's 1964 march on 
Washington, Williams successfully urged Mao Tse-Tung to speak out on 
behalf of King's movement. Mr. Williams was also around this time 
maintaining his primary residence in Cuba, from which he made regular 
broadcasts to the southern US, three times a week, from high-power AM 
transmitters in Havana under the title "Radio Free Dixie." In these 
broadcasts, he urged violent attacks by Blacks against White Americans.

During this period, Williams wrote a book entitled "Negroes With Guns." 
The writer of the foreword for this book? None other than Martin Luther 
King, Jr.  It is also interesting to note that the editors and publishers 
of this book were to a man all supporters of the infamous Fair Play for
Cuba Committee.

According to King's biographer and sympathizer David J. Garrow, "King 
privately described himself as a Marxist." In his 1981 book, "The FBI and 
Martin Luther King, Jr.", Garrow quotes King as saying in SCLC staff 
meetings, "...we have moved into a new era, which must be an era of 
revolution.... The whole structure of American life must be changed.... 
We are engaged in the class struggle."

Jewish Communist Stanley Levison can best be described as King's 
behind-the-scenes "handler." Levison, who had for years been in charge of 
the secret funnelling of Soviet funds to the Communist Party, USA, was 
King's mentor and was actually the brains behind many of King's more 
successful ploys. It was Levison who edited King's book, "Stride Toward 
Freedom." It was Levison who arranged for a publisher. Levison even 
prepared King's income tax returns! It was Levison who really controlled 
the fund-raising and agitation activities of the SCLC. Levison wrote many 
of King's speeches. King described Levison as one of his "closest 
friends."


Now, ladies and gentlemen, the issue of Martin Luther King's close 
association with Communists is established approximately as firmly as 
is Steven Spielberg's association with the movie industry.

The really interesting thing about the associations of King is that, 
despite massive documentation, they are not more widely known. Could it 
be that the current establishment has a vested interest in keeping the 
truth from getting to the great unwashed? Nahhh... that couldn't be.

With my sincere best wishes,
-- 


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Alvin Nichter wrote:
> 
> 
> Kevin Alfred Strom (ka_strom@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> : Jewish Communist Stanley Levison can best be described as King's
> : behind-the-scenes "handler." Levison, who had for years been in
> : charge of the secret funnelling of Soviet funds to the Communist
> : Party, USA, was King's mentor and was actually the brains behind
> : many of King's more successful ploys. It was Levison who edited
> : King's book, "Stride Toward Freedom." It was Levison who arranged
> : for a publisher. Levison even prepared King's income tax returns!
> : It was Levison who really controlled the fund-raising and
> : agitation activities of the SCLC. Levison wrote many of King's
> : speeches. King described Levison as one of his "closest friends."
> 
> 
> 
> The intent of the above paragraph is to imply that MLK Jr. was
> controlled by a Soviet agent within the Communist Party USA.


The intent of the above paragraph was to show, in context with many other 
sources, that "Martin Luther King, Jr." associated with Communists, 
employed Communists, and participated willingly in Communist projects; 
and while technically not a Party member, did consider himself to be a  
Marxist working for "the class struggle." This information needs to be 
more widely known, in my view.



> This is intentionally misleading.  Before Mr. Levison began working
> with MLK Jr., he had become disillusioned with the Communist Party USA
> and had left it.  In fact, Mr. Levison played a role in Operation Solo,
> an anti-Communist U.S. Government operation; this was discussed in one of
> the sources referenced by Mr. Strom, yet he chose to ignore this.


The "role" played by Mr. Levison in "Operation Solo" was to be a target 
of it; according to:

http://www.sussex.ac.uk/USIS/CULCOM/nexus/con6.htm

This source obviously is friendly to King, by the way.

Another individual friendly to King's agenda was Robert Kennedy, at the 
time in question Attorney General of the United States. His view of 
Levison was also somewhat different from yours, e.g. (from _COINTELPRO_ 
by Brian Long -- again a King-friendly source):

' The Director expressed his fears about Levison's influence on King to 
Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy in a letter of January 8, 1962, and 
Kennedy decided that King needed to be informed of Levison's ties with 
the Communist Party. '

Long's apparent reason for accepting the the theory that Levison 
abandoned Communism is that after 1957, he was no longer on the FBI's 
list of "key" CPUSA figures -- hardly the same thing as "no longer a 
Communist." At any rate, King's book, which Levison edited and for which 
he arranged the publication, hit the stands in 1958. Draw your own 
conclusions.

> J. Edgar Hoover's continual investigation of MLK Jr. was largely
> justified by Mr. Hoover's concern about the association with Mr. Levison,
> possibly because Mr. Hoover was unaware of Mr. Levison's
> anti-Communist role in Operation Solo.


Seems unlikely that the director was unaware of such an important aspect 
of one of his own operations, particularly when he had taken such an 
interest in Mr. Levison.



> It is misleading, to say
> the least, to imply that MLK Jr.'s association with Mr. Levison
> constituted a Communist connection; the evidence contradicts this.
> 


I disagree. King's prior and continuing association with numerous other 
Communists makes accounts of Levison's "conversion," while he continued 
his association with King, have an extremely hollow ring. Leave out 
Levison entirely if you want to, and you still have absolute proof that 
King was sympathetic to and cooperating with Communism.



> It's also interesting that Mr. Strom thought it relevant to point
> out Mr. Levison's religion, even though he doesn't do this for
> any of the many other people he names in his post.


I said nothing about his religion. Herbert Aptheker, leading Communist 
theoretician, is listed as a Jew in the _Jewish Encyclopedia_, and I 
assume his religion is Marxist atheism, as I assume Levison's was; and as 
all good Communists' would be.


> Why, Mr. Strom?
> Please tell us the significance of the term "Jewish Communist".
> 
> ---Alvin H. Nichter


You are right, Mr. Nichter. It probably would save wear and tear on my 
keyboard to add an adjective only in the case of non-Jewish Communists.

With good wishes,


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Alvin Nichter wrote:
> 
> 
> Kevin Alfred Strom (ka_strom@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> : Jewish Communist Stanley Levison can best be described as King's
> : behind-the-scenes "handler." Levison, who had for years been in
> : charge of the secret funnelling of Soviet funds to the Communist
> : Party, USA, was King's mentor and was actually the brains behind
> : many of King's more successful ploys. It was Levison who edited
> : King's book, "Stride Toward Freedom." It was Levison who arranged
> : for a publisher. Levison even prepared King's income tax returns!
> : It was Levison who really controlled the fund-raising and
> : agitation activities of the SCLC. Levison wrote many of King's
> : speeches. King described Levison as one of his "closest friends."
> 
> 
> 
> The intent of the above paragraph is to imply that MLK Jr. was
> controlled by a Soviet agent within the Communist Party USA.


The intent of the above paragraph was to show, in context with many other 
sources, that "Martin Luther King, Jr." associated with Communists, 
employed Communists, and participated willingly in Communist projects; 
and while technically not a Party member, did consider himself to be a  
Marxist working for "the class struggle." This information needs to be 
more widely known, in my view.



> This is intentionally misleading.  Before Mr. Levison began working
> with MLK Jr., he had become disillusioned with the Communist Party USA
> and had left it.  In fact, Mr. Levison played a role in Operation Solo,
> an anti-Communist U.S. Government operation; this was discussed in one of
> the sources referenced by Mr. Strom, yet he chose to ignore this.


The "role" played by Mr. Levison in "Operation Solo" was to be a target 
of it; according to:

http://www.sussex.ac.uk/USIS/CULCOM/nexus/con6.htm

This source obviously is friendly to King, by the way.

Another individual friendly to King's agenda was Robert Kennedy, at the 
time in question Attorney General of the United States. His view of 
Levison was also somewhat different from yours, e.g. (from _COINTELPRO_ 
by Brian Long -- again a King-friendly source):

' The Director expressed his fears about Levison's influence on King to 
Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy in a letter of January 8, 1962, and 
Kennedy decided that King needed to be informed of Levison's ties with 
the Communist Party. '

Long's apparent reason for accepting the the theory that Levison 
abandoned Communism is that after 1957, he was no longer on the FBI's 
list of "key" CPUSA figures -- hardly the same thing as "no longer a 
Communist." At any rate, King's book, which Levison edited and for which 
he arranged the publication, hit the stands in 1958. Draw your own 
conclusions.

> J. Edgar Hoover's continual investigation of MLK Jr. was largely
> justified by Mr. Hoover's concern about the association with Mr. Levison,
> possibly because Mr. Hoover was unaware of Mr. Levison's
> anti-Communist role in Operation Solo.


Seems unlikely that the director was unaware of such an important aspect 
of one of his own operations, particularly when he had taken such an 
interest in Mr. Levison.



> It is misleading, to say
> the least, to imply that MLK Jr.'s association with Mr. Levison
> constituted a Communist connection; the evidence contradicts this.
> 


I disagree. King's prior and continuing association with numerous other 
Communists makes accounts of Levison's "conversion," while he continued 
his association with King, have an extremely hollow ring. Leave out 
Levison entirely if you want to, and you still have absolute proof that 
King was sympathetic to and cooperating with Communism.



> It's also interesting that Mr. Strom thought it relevant to point
> out Mr. Levison's religion, even though he doesn't do this for
> any of the many other people he names in his post.


I said nothing about his religion. Herbert Aptheker, leading Communist 
theoretician, is listed as a Jew in the _Jewish Encyclopedia_, and I 
assume his religion is Marxist atheism, as I assume Levison's was; and as 
all good Communists' would be.


> Why, Mr. Strom?
> Please tell us the significance of the term "Jewish Communist".
> 
> ---Alvin H. Nichter


You are right, Mr. Nichter. It probably would save wear and tear on my 
keyboard to add an adjective only in the case of non-Jewish Communists.

With good wishes,


-- 


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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Mon Jun  3 13:17:18 PDT 1996
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Alvin Nichter wrote:
> 
> 
> Kevin Alfred Strom (ka_strom@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> : Jewish Communist Stanley Levison can best be described as King's
> : behind-the-scenes "handler." Levison, who had for years been in
> : charge of the secret funnelling of Soviet funds to the Communist
> : Party, USA, was King's mentor and was actually the brains behind
> : many of King's more successful ploys. It was Levison who edited
> : King's book, "Stride Toward Freedom." It was Levison who arranged
> : for a publisher. Levison even prepared King's income tax returns!
> : It was Levison who really controlled the fund-raising and
> : agitation activities of the SCLC. Levison wrote many of King's
> : speeches. King described Levison as one of his "closest friends."
> 
> 
> 
> The intent of the above paragraph is to imply that MLK Jr. was
> controlled by a Soviet agent within the Communist Party USA.


The intent of the above paragraph was to show, in context with many other 
sources, that "Martin Luther King, Jr." associated with Communists, 
employed Communists, and participated willingly in Communist projects; 
and while technically not a Party member, did consider himself to be a  
Marxist working for "the class struggle." This information needs to be 
more widely known, in my view.



> This is intentionally misleading.  Before Mr. Levison began working
> with MLK Jr., he had become disillusioned with the Communist Party USA
> and had left it.  In fact, Mr. Levison played a role in Operation Solo,
> an anti-Communist U.S. Government operation; this was discussed in one of
> the sources referenced by Mr. Strom, yet he chose to ignore this.


The "role" played by Mr. Levison in "Operation Solo" was to be a target 
of it; according to:

http://www.sussex.ac.uk/USIS/CULCOM/nexus/con6.htm

This source obviously is friendly to King, by the way.

Another individual friendly to King's agenda was Robert Kennedy, at the 
time in question Attorney General of the United States. His view of 
Levison was also somewhat different from yours, e.g. (from _COINTELPRO_ 
by Brian Long -- again a King-friendly source):

' The Director expressed his fears about Levison's influence on King to 
Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy in a letter of January 8, 1962, and 
Kennedy decided that King needed to be informed of Levison's ties with 
the Communist Party. '

Long's apparent reason for accepting the the theory that Levison 
abandoned Communism is that after 1957, he was no longer on the FBI's 
list of "key" CPUSA figures -- hardly the same thing as "no longer a 
Communist." At any rate, King's book, which Levison edited and for which 
he arranged the publication, hit the stands in 1958. Draw your own 
conclusions.

> J. Edgar Hoover's continual investigation of MLK Jr. was largely
> justified by Mr. Hoover's concern about the association with Mr. Levison,
> possibly because Mr. Hoover was unaware of Mr. Levison's
> anti-Communist role in Operation Solo.


Seems unlikely that the director was unaware of such an important aspect 
of one of his own operations, particularly when he had taken such an 
interest in Mr. Levison.



> It is misleading, to say
> the least, to imply that MLK Jr.'s association with Mr. Levison
> constituted a Communist connection; the evidence contradicts this.
> 


I disagree. King's prior and continuing association with numerous other 
Communists makes accounts of Levison's "conversion," while he continued 
his association with King, have an extremely hollow ring. Leave out 
Levison entirely if you want to, and you still have absolute proof that 
King was sympathetic to and cooperating with Communism.



> It's also interesting that Mr. Strom thought it relevant to point
> out Mr. Levison's religion, even though he doesn't do this for
> any of the many other people he names in his post.


I said nothing about his religion. Herbert Aptheker, leading Communist 
theoretician, is listed as a Jew in the _Jewish Encyclopedia_, and I 
assume his religion is Marxist atheism, as I assume Levison's was; and as 
all good Communists' would be.


> Why, Mr. Strom?
> Please tell us the significance of the term "Jewish Communist".
> 
> ---Alvin H. Nichter


You are right, Mr. Nichter. It probably would save wear and tear on my 
keyboard to add an adjective only in the case of non-Jewish Communists.

With good wishes,


-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Mon Jun  3 16:27:02 PDT 1996
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bob whitaker wrote:
> 
>    It has occurred to me that those who wish to destroy a
> people declare two things about that peope: 1) They are the
> root of all evil, and 2) They don't actually exist.  To Hitler,
> the Untermenschen did not exist, except as pure Evil.  To the
> Soviets, everyone was part of their subject world, the world of
> the universal proletariat, and any group outside did not exist
> and was evil.
>     Those who aim to destroy the white race are, foc ourse, the
> clearest kind of example.  They argue taht the white race does
> not exist, so it can be done away with, but that it is the root
> of all evil, so it owed vast reparations.
>      Any comments?


"Liberals" are not known for their consistency, but perhaps one day they 
will wake up and discover that the Black race, which they have been 
favoring with job, scholarship, and other preferences, also does not 
exist.

What will they do then?

And what about the Jewish people? If "liberals" apply the same standards 
to them as they do to members of the White race, they may indeed find 
that they have lost all basis for "Holocaust" reparations, aid to Israel, 
and the growing corpus of legislation criminalizing criticism of Jews.

If it is illegitimate morally and untenable scientifically for Whites to 
organize on the basis of a perceived common race or ethnicity (or even to 
claim that their race exists), then surely the same would hold true for 
Jews and Blacks.

Perhaps one day, "liberal" true believers will wake up and discover that 
nothing exists. That is the end of the road for their mode of thinking. 
The verb "to be" is anathema to them. The thought that there might be an 
absolute reality outside themselves, a reality which _is what it is_ 
regardless of their wishes, theories, hopes, daydreams, or decrees is as 
intolerable to them as it is to a two-year-old. They have even developed 
a language (called "e-prime" ...do a web search on it) -- a version of 
English which eschews completely the verb "to be."

But I ramble. "Liberals" are very suggestible, and are really the 
victims of, not the originators of, the "race does not exist, but some 
races must be favored" swindle.

Yes, Bob, it does amount to genocide.

With my best wishes,

-- 


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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Wed Jun  5 02:05:24 PDT 1996
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tim decker wrote:
> 
> Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
> >
> > RE -- Documentation of the fact that many of Martin Luther King's closest
> > associates were Communists:
> >
> > On Labor Day, 1957, a special meeting was attended by Martin Luther King
> > and four others at a strange institution called the Highlander Folk
> > School in Monteagle, Tennessee. The Highlander Folk School was a
> > Communist front, having been founded by Myles Horton (Communist Party
> > organizer for Tennessee) and Don West (Communist Party organizer for
> > North Carolina). The leaders of this meeting with King were the
> > aforementioned Horton and West, along with Abner Berry and James
> > Dumbrowski, all open and acknowledged members of the Communist Party,
> > USA. The agenda of the meeting was a plan to tour the Southern states to
> > initiate demonstrations and riots.[most of article snipped by Mr. Decker]
> 
> Add yourself to the list of people in this thread who do not know what
> the words *primary source documentation*mean.  This post aint it.
> Thanks for playing but come back when you understand how to provide
> proof.
> 
> td


In my several posts on Martin Luther King's close association with 
Communists, I have provided ample sources for you to check and 
cross-check if you were so inclined. Obviously, you are not so inclined.

May I suggest a very easy one to begin with, in case you decide to change 
your mind?

Try David Garrow's _The FBI and Martin Luther King, Jr._, W. W. Norton, 
1981. Garrow tries to excuse King's association with Communists, but 
makes many telling admissions along the way; the most important of which 
is that King privately described himself as a Marxist.

I have provided many other references: major newpapers, the Communist 
newspaper the _Daily Worker_, scholars friendly to King, scholars 
critical of King, and a book written by a Communist under Communist 
imprimatur with an introduction written by King. Other references come 
>from  the pages of Communist publications themselves, or from the records 
of Congressional Committees.

Furthermore, my research indicates that none of these individuals denied 
being Communists -- most were quite proud of it -- or ever denied being 
associated with King. I will list these here:

1. Myles Horton

2. Don West

3. Abner Berry

4. James Dumbrowski

5. Bayard Rustin

6. Stanley Levison

7. Jack O'Dell

8. Robert Williams

9. Carl Braden

Now, you may quibble that the _Daily Worker_, Garrow's book, the accounts 
of the work of the House Un-American Activities Committee, the few FBI 
files on King that have been allowed to be released, etc. are not 
_primary source documentation_, as you say, in that in some cases they 
are quoting other sources. And it is true that on many points there isn't 
any _sworn testimony_.

But it does seem to me that I have brought not only the best evidence to 
date into this debate, but that in fact I have brought the _only_ 
evidence to date into this debate.

You, on the other hand, have provided nothing but unsupported assertions 
and name calling.

If you have evidence that shows that King was actually opposed to 
Marxism, or that Bayard Rustin, et al., were actually not Communists or 
were not associated with King, I would be happy to have you present it.

With my sincere best wishes,

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tim decker wrote:
> 
> Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
> >
> > RE -- Documentation of the fact that many of Martin Luther King's closest
> > associates were Communists:
> >
> > On Labor Day, 1957, a special meeting was attended by Martin Luther King
> > and four others at a strange institution called the Highlander Folk
> > School in Monteagle, Tennessee. The Highlander Folk School was a
> > Communist front, having been founded by Myles Horton (Communist Party
> > organizer for Tennessee) and Don West (Communist Party organizer for
> > North Carolina). The leaders of this meeting with King were the
> > aforementioned Horton and West, along with Abner Berry and James
> > Dumbrowski, all open and acknowledged members of the Communist Party,
> > USA. The agenda of the meeting was a plan to tour the Southern states to
> > initiate demonstrations and riots.[most of article snipped by Mr. Decker]
> 
> Add yourself to the list of people in this thread who do not know what
> the words *primary source documentation*mean.  This post aint it.
> Thanks for playing but come back when you understand how to provide
> proof.
> 
> td


In my several posts on Martin Luther King's close association with 
Communists, I have provided ample sources for you to check and 
cross-check if you were so inclined. Obviously, you are not so inclined.

May I suggest a very easy one to begin with, in case you decide to change 
your mind?

Try David Garrow's _The FBI and Martin Luther King, Jr._, W. W. Norton, 
1981. Garrow tries to excuse King's association with Communists, but 
makes many telling admissions along the way; the most important of which 
is that King privately described himself as a Marxist.

I have provided many other references: major newpapers, the Communist 
newspaper the _Daily Worker_, scholars friendly to King, scholars 
critical of King, and a book written by a Communist under Communist 
imprimatur with an introduction written by King. Other references come 
>from  the pages of Communist publications themselves, or from the records 
of Congressional Committees.

Furthermore, my research indicates that none of these individuals denied 
being Communists -- most were quite proud of it -- or ever denied being 
associated with King. I will list these here:

1. Myles Horton

2. Don West

3. Abner Berry

4. James Dumbrowski

5. Bayard Rustin

6. Stanley Levison

7. Jack O'Dell

8. Robert Williams

9. Carl Braden

Now, you may quibble that the _Daily Worker_, Garrow's book, the accounts 
of the work of the House Un-American Activities Committee, the few FBI 
files on King that have been allowed to be released, etc. are not 
_primary source documentation_, as you say, in that in some cases they 
are quoting other sources. And it is true that on many points there isn't 
any _sworn testimony_.

But it does seem to me that I have brought not only the best evidence to 
date into this debate, but that in fact I have brought the _only_ 
evidence to date into this debate.

You, on the other hand, have provided nothing but unsupported assertions 
and name calling.

If you have evidence that shows that King was actually opposed to 
Marxism, or that Bayard Rustin, et al., were actually not Communists or 
were not associated with King, I would be happy to have you present it.

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James Hammerton wrote:

> ...
> So what are the characteristic of "the white race" that make them
> superior in your eyes? Also, I see no evidence that caucasian people are
> under threat of extinction, either in this country or worldwide. So
> why the fuss?
> 

I cannot speak for anyone else, but in my eyes the European race, 
imperfect as it may be, is a race of light and beauty -- the race of 
Shelley and Keats and Poe and Shakespeare -- the race of the Parthenon 
and Chartres Cathedral and Stonehenge -- the race of Mozart and Beethoven 
and Liszt and Brahms -- the race of Vermeer and Raphael and William 
Waterhouse and Rossetti -- the race of Caesar and Alexander and 
Washington and Jefferson -- the race of Ford and Marconi and Goddard and 
Von Braun and Shockley.

And this race _is_ threatened. Nowhere is our birthrate above replacement 
level. Everywhere our borders have been opened and the new elite teaches 
our children that intermarriage is good and desirable. Everywhere the new 
elite teaches our children that to defend our genetic heritage is the 
very definition of evil.

The end result, if trends continue, will be genocide. The end result will 
be death for the uniquely beautiful, intelligent and creative people 
called by the name of the goddess Europa.

Faithfully,


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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Wed Jun  5 07:56:21 PDT 1996
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Scott Erb wrote:
> 
> In article <4ov3ab$oc5@is.bbsrc.ac.uk>, KIM.NIENDORF@HRI.AC.UK says...
> >
> >"Duncan R. MacMillan"  wrote:
> >>       Like I said, I think that the white race, as currently constituted,
> is
> >> a winner and, thus, merits preservation.
> >
> >a "currently constituted" white race?  Where did you read that
> >one.  I have yet to hear a good definition of what the "white race"
> >is.
> 
> Because, quite simply, there IS NO SUCH THING!
>


A large number of degreed whores of academe would say so -- but then, 
they also think that Bill Moyers can be taken seriously.

There is a political agenda behind the "there is no such thing as the 
White race" malarky, and it exposes itself every time the obvious 
corollary is stated: If there is no such thing as the White race, then 
there is no collective responsibility for the real and imagined sins it 
committed against the equally imaginary African, Amerind, etc., races 
which stand impatiently in the handout and favoritism lines for a few 
cents of tax money after the middle-man has taken his cut.

No more affirmative action -- races do not exist!

No more Holocaust reparations -- races do not exist!

No more "diversity" requirements or training -- races do not exist!

Oh, that would never do. It is only the White race which does not -- 
cannot -- exist. It cannot exist, because if its existence were admitted, 
then the genocide which is now being practiced against it would become 
immediately obvious. And even a few honest liberals might pale at that, 
and spoil the whole show.

The multiracialists have painted themselves into a corner. What to do? 
Probably just mumble that the "oppressed" groups are "peoples," 
"nations," or something of the sort. And they will hope that Whites never 
wake from their stupor and coalesce into a "people" just as conscious of 
its interests and destiny as, say, the Jews.

What a different world that would be.

 
> Modern science and biology has shown that race is not a scientific concept.
> It has been debunked.  The only people who believe such crap are
> (usually) people who are probably so pathetic and insecure in their personal
> lives that they feel a need to define themselves as part of an allegedly
> superior group.
> 
> When I think of a bunch of fat good ol' boy red necks guzzling beer and not
> being able to speak properly, and then hear them calling themselves racially
> superior, the irony is extreme!  Or when I imagine a bunch of Bavarian
> workers meeting at the Hofbraeuhaus in 1939 and thinking themselves superior
> to Einstein and other Jewish leaders, I have to shake my head in wonder.
> (That is not an insult to die Bayer -- i mog de Bayer und a de Woizenbier!)
> Individuals are responsible for their choices and lives, c'est la realite.
> Race is not a scientifically valid concept.
> -scott


You spout liberal cliches like Vesuvius spouted ash. Talk about 
stereotypes!

There is a great deal of debate on species boundaries. The question has 
been raised: should the races be treated as separate species, or just 
subspecies of the same species? They certainly vary enough for subspecies 
classification. After all, some species of mammals are so little 
different that a human observer cannot tell them apart. (Two kinds of 
Siberian hamsters come to mind, among which a scent, discernible only to 
the hamsters unless instruments are used, is the main difference and the 
means by which the female chooses a mate of the correct species.) The 
position that there are no subspecies among men -- that they do not even 
exist -- is indeed a novel one. It would imply that the Australoid, the 
Capoid, and the European, each developing separately for at least 
one hundred thousand years, and possessing startling physical 
differences, are not only the same species but _must_ be defined as the 
same subspecies. Please defend this thesis, if you can.

With good wishes, even to liberals,


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M.S. Robb wrote:
> ...
> 
> All interbreeding brings hybrid vigour. New combinations of genetic
> material bring new and better individuals. This is trivial genetics stuff.
> 

_All interbreeding?_ Where did you hear that?

Hybrid vigor (which signifies nothing in terms of the human genius 
needed to create and sustain a civilization), where it exists, usually 
peters out after a few generations. Ever hear of regression to the mean?

In the case of interbreeding with Africans, that means regression to the 
African mean. With Asians, to the Asian mean. Neither holds out promise 
of raising the level of the upper half of the bell curve.

The other races have mixed with Europeans, and everywhere the results 
are, to say the least, unimpressive. They have nothing to offer us.


> >       Japanese sporting ability? Negro intelligence? Thai penis dimensions?
> 
> Try inverting these. Negro sporting abiillity. Japanese intellignece.
> (God knows whose dicks?)
> 

We cannot (yet) _select_ such characteristics, especially when you are 
talking about random interbreeding as advocated by liberals and 
Communists. In the long run, you are going to get _random_ combinations 
of the different characteristics, most of which will _not_ be superior. 
You _will_ get regression to the mean. For such a questionable 
experiment, you would destroy one of Nature's creatures? Would you force 
bald eagles and fish eagles to mate? Lions and tigers?

The European race has all the diversity it needs for health and further 
evolutionary development. It is a moral and environmental crime of the 
highest order to destroy it by breaking down all its defenses against 
interbreeding.


> 
> So don't get tied up with the history of it. European history is truly
> amazing. We did very well, usually, though not always at the expense of
> others. But there are thousands of reasons for this that are not based on
> genetics. And you overlook the great Ethiopian civilisations, the
> astonishing development of China and Asian thought, and so on. There is
> no doubt that Europeans have had the best of it, but that doesn't
> indicate *necessarily* a genetic superiority. And even if it did, it
> wouldn't *necessarily* lead to any of the policies you appear to > support.
> 

But even you admit that you don't _know_ that our unmatched civilization 
is not the result of our genetic makeup. _If it is_, and you obliterate 
that unique genetic code, do you realize the enormity of what you have 
done?

Whites should be allowed to re-erect their traditional barriers against 
mating and constant association with non-Whites: to preserve our kind. 
Anything else is genocide.

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tim decker wrote:
> 
> Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
> >
> > RE -- Documentation of the fact that many of Martin Luther King's closest
> > associates were Communists:
> >
> > On Labor Day, 1957, a special meeting was attended by Martin Luther King
> > and four others at a strange institution called the Highlander Folk
> > School in Monteagle, Tennessee. The Highlander Folk School was a
> > Communist front, having been founded by Myles Horton (Communist Party
> > organizer for Tennessee) and Don West (Communist Party organizer for
> > North Carolina). The leaders of this meeting with King were the
> > aforementioned Horton and West, along with Abner Berry and James
> > Dumbrowski, all open and acknowledged members of the Communist Party,
> > USA. The agenda of the meeting was a plan to tour the Southern states to
> > initiate demonstrations and riots.[most of article snipped by Mr. Decker]
> 
> Add yourself to the list of people in this thread who do not know what
> the words *primary source documentation*mean.  This post aint it.
> Thanks for playing but come back when you understand how to provide
> proof.
> 
> td


In my several posts on Martin Luther King's close association with 
Communists, I have provided ample sources for you to check and 
cross-check if you were so inclined. Obviously, you are not so inclined.

May I suggest a very easy one to begin with, in case you decide to change 
your mind?

Try David Garrow's _The FBI and Martin Luther King, Jr._, W. W. Norton, 
1981. Garrow tries to excuse King's association with Communists, but 
makes many telling admissions along the way; the most important of which 
is that King privately described himself as a Marxist.

I have provided many other references: major newpapers, the Communist 
newspaper the _Daily Worker_, scholars friendly to King, scholars 
critical of King, and a book written by a Communist under Communist 
imprimatur with an introduction written by King. Other references come 
>from  the pages of Communist publications themselves, or from the records 
of Congressional Committees.

Furthermore, my research indicates that none of these individuals denied 
being Communists -- most were quite proud of it -- or ever denied being 
associated with King. I will list these here:

1. Myles Horton

2. Don West

3. Abner Berry

4. James Dumbrowski

5. Bayard Rustin

6. Stanley Levison

7. Jack O'Dell

8. Robert Williams

9. Carl Braden

Now, you may quibble that the _Daily Worker_, Garrow's book, the accounts 
of the work of the House Un-American Activities Committee, the few FBI 
files on King that have been allowed to be released, etc. are not 
_primary source documentation_, as you say, in that in some cases they 
are quoting other sources. And it is true that on many points there isn't 
any _sworn testimony_.

But it does seem to me that I have brought not only the best evidence to 
date into this debate, but that in fact I have brought the _only_ 
evidence to date into this debate.

You, on the other hand, have provided nothing but unsupported assertions 
and name calling.

If you have evidence that shows that King was actually opposed to 
Marxism, or that Bayard Rustin, et al., were actually not Communists or 
were not associated with King, I would be happy to have you present it.

With my sincere best wishes,

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Eugene Holman wrote:
> 
> In article <31B37B88.246D@ix.netcom.com>, Kevin Alfred Strom
>  wrote:
> 
> SNIP!
> >
> > Anti-White polemicists quibble for megabytes on their inability to define
> > the White race; but I am afraid the Emperor is naked: a distinct race
> > evolved and came to dominate Europe. Both its members and its detractors
> > can usually identify it at a glance. It is no more difficult to define
> > than the bluebirds or the bison.
> 
> I am not an anti-White polemicist nor, I hope, am I quibbling.


You are the one of the finest quibblers in this newsgroup.


> On the
> basis of their physical characteristics alone it is obviously easy to
> distinguish a 'typical' Swede from a 'typical' Nigerian. The problem is
> that, unlike bisons and bluebirds, the different races interbreed. They
> always have, and probably always will. The characteristics of the other
> race tend to 'wash out' after three or four generations, so 'typicalness'
> is retained.
> 

At their peripheries, different species of Bluebirds also interbreed and 
there are intermediate forms. But "always will" is a big question for the 
bluebirds and man alike. The eastern and mountain bluebirds are fairly 
well along in the process of differentiation. Eventually, they may differ 
enough so that all interbreeding will cease. Further -- and more rapid -- 
differentiation may then occur, and interbreeding may become actually 
impossible. That is how many new species are formed. That is not to say 
that the intermediate forms may not continue to exist also -- who knows?

Clearly, Europeans are diverging from -- evolving in a different 
direction -- Blacks and Asians. Whether the divergence will continue to 
increase or be stopped by massive interbreeding is the question that 
neither of us can answer.


> SNIP!
> >
> > "Does this include Italy, Spain, Portugal, France?" Yes. As long as we
> > are talking about the founding stocks of those nations and their lineal
> > descendants. A descendant of a Negro slave in Portugal isn't White. A
> > newly-arrived Ethiopian in Rome isn't White.
> 
> Now, in the light of the above, I would like to know why, let us say, a
> third generation descendant of a Negro slave in Portugal isn't White.
> Assuming that 7/8 of his genetic heritage is White, why must he be denied
> 'Whiteness' for that 1/8? Why is the fact that he has one Black
> great-grandparent enough to negate the other 7/8 per cent of his heritage?

Because of the _feeling_ of racial kinship which is inborn in us, and 
which naturally makes us prefer our own kind as mates. There is a feeling 
of racial distance, of an alien quality (not "hatred," by the way) 
partaking of primitiveness when Congoid or Capoid or Australoid 
characteristics are discernible. The same degree of mixture with, say, 
Japanese, might not even be noticed. But then Japanese have larger 
brains, finer features, straight hair, thin lips, etc. The perceived 
difference is less.

These natural racial feelings, like it or not, are a driving force behind 
evolution.

The unwritten "anyone who looks the slightest bit Black is non-White" 
rule (which has its basis in our natural feelings) has a very real 
effect: it protects the gene pool -- not _absolutely_, of course -- but 
it has a huge impact. If the freedom of association that has been 
outlawed and denigrated for the last few decades were restored to the 
peoples of the West, then its protective role would resume in full force.




> 
> And what's this you say about 'founding stocks'? Nations typically evolve
> from ethnic mixtures. Let us consider one typical but illustrative
> example. Between the last Ice Age and the Renaissance, Britain has had at
> least three Celtic invasions, including one which seems to point to
> Northern Africa, a Roman invasion, which brought in colonists from all
> over the Mediterranean world, a Saxon invasion, which brought in Germanic
> tribes from what is now norther-western Germany and Holland, several
> Viking invasions, an invasion of transplanted Danes ('the Normans') who
> masqueraded as and had partially assimlated with Frenchmen, and large
> scale immigration from the Low Countries.


All of which were White.



> The Renaissance introduced
> Britain to Amerindians, west Africans, and the inhabitants of the Indian
> subcontinent, 


None of which arrived in any substantial numbers until the multiracial 
madness began after WWII, and who, because of those wicked racial 
feelings again, did not intermarry with Britons to any significant degree 
before that time, as you well know.


> subsequent colonization brought in East and South Africans,
> Arabs, Chinese, Malaysians, Australians, Maoris and others. 


(By "Australians" I believe Mr. Holman means Australoids, not White 
Australians.) None of these last have assimilated into the British 
people. They are considered foreigners, as are their offspring including 
half-breeds, and form alien communities within Britain, which is what 
"minority group" means. Have you been to Britain, by any chance? Have you 
talked to the ordinary people there?



> Even if
> invasions meant battles and some ethnic cleansing, for the most part each
> new wave of invaders or immigrants was assimilated into the people already
> living there.


Ridiculous when referring to the non-Whites. Ask yourself _why_ were 
Whites assimilated while the non-Whites weren't? It's those "awful" 
natural and good racial feelings again....


> Any talk of a 'founding stock' is a flagrant and puerile


Naughty, naughty. I didn't call you puerile when you repeated the hoary 
chestnut about Jesse Owens as fact.


> simplification of history. Even as seemingly homogeneous people as the
> Swedes reveals itself to have developed from Danes, Norwegians, Goths,
> immigrants from northern Germany and the Low countries, Finns, Lapps,
> Poles, and Russians, to name the most important and obvious contributors.


The Lapps are for all practical purposes a separate nation. All the 
others you mention are not only the same race but with miniscule 
exceptions the same _subrace_. Your example is not very convincing.

A tribe or a group of tribes coalesce into a people, who found a nation. 
Almost always these people are of the same race -- but even when they 
aren't -- if they coalesce and have a consciousness of themselves as a 
people, _then they are a people_. In the real world, that is the only 
definition that matters. They are the founding stock of that nation. By 
their feelings, beliefs, laws and customs they will determine who can 
marry into the tribe or the nation.


  
> 
> It has been estimated that at least 40% of the Black population of the US
> has some 'White blood'


Actually, you have scrambled your facts. It is not that 40 per cent. of 
Blacks have some White ancestry (implying that 60 per cent. do not) -- it 
is that, taken as a whole, American Blacks have an average of 40 per 
cent. White ancestry. (Some studies say slightly under 30 per cent., but 
the point is the same.)



> ; a considerable proportion of the 'White'
> population has 'Black blood', but there are various ways to hide this and
> 'pass for White'.
> 


If I was cruel...



> Your definition of White and Black based on 'identification at a glance'
> is far too simplistic; the fact that a person who is as much White as
> Non-White, or even overwhelmingly White and miniscully non-White, is
> regarded as Non-White shows that you are dealing with a subjective rather
> than an objective classification.
> 

Yes, it is subjective -- isn't the title of this thread "Racial 
Feelings..."? But there is an evolutionary reason, a physical reality, 
and a survival value behind those feelings. And they will play their part 
in the destiny of man and the universe, as they always have.


With all good wishes,

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun  7 10:52:02 PDT 1996
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D. Braun wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 5 Jun 1996, Ian McKinney wrote:
> 
> > Ian McKinney wrote:
> >
> > I heard not long ago on this group several persons moaning about
> > the claim that Bolshevism was primarily a Jewish movement. Oh, I
> > know it's "hate" they say to mention anything derogatory about
> > God's master race. Totally without truth they will tell you.
> > Well, fortunately there were more than a few who happened to be
> > in Russia in 1917-19 and actually saw what so many today want to
> > deny. I'll provide facts to back-up my claims.
> >
> > I'll bypass the well known fact that Karl Marx was a Jew. That
> 
> And? so were the Marx brothers.  This is common knowledge, idiot.
> 
> > can be discovered in any library. So let's see the lovers of the
> > Jews deny diplomatic cables that passed between American repre-
> > sentatives in Russia and Washington D.C. during that time, and are
> > available from the U.S. Archives.
> >
> >          State Department document 861.00 /1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S.
> >          consul general in Moscow, Summers:
> >
> >          "Jews prominant in local Soviet government, anti-Jewish feeling
> >          growing among population...."
> >
> >
> >          State Department document 861.00 / 2205 was sent from Vladivos-
> >          tok on July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell:
> >
> >          "Fifty percent of Soviet government in each town consists of
> >          Jews of the worst type."
> >
> >
> >          From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces,
> >          Siberia on March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief
> >          of Staff, Captain Montgomey Shuyler:
> >
> >          "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the United States
> >          but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's beginning
> >          guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type."
> >
> >
> >
> >          A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
> >          reports:
> >
> >          "...(T)here were 384 `commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Rus-
> >          sians, 15 Chinamen, 22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the
> >          latter number, 264 had come to Russia from the United States
> >          since the downfall of the Imperial Government."
> 
> So what?  Its also common knoledge that there have been anti-semites in
> the US from its inception, and in Europe for a thousand years.  Idiot.
> Hey listen to this!!! Did you know Ian, that the KKK marched on washington
> in the 1920's and had thousands of marchers??!! Wow! Was this country
> great or what, back in the good old days!! And then the Jews wrecked
> everything!!
> 
> You really are an idiot
> 
>                 Dave Braun


Well, Ian, Mr. Braun has gone full circle. He admits the Bolshevik 
Revolution was a Jewish revolution -- "common kno[w]ledge" is the 
category this fact belongs in, as he puts it.

I believe he is castigating you for wasting bandwidth with facts that 
everyone knows. But sadly, while Jewish predominance in Hollywood may be 
a fact that "everyone knows but is afraid to say," knowledge of the 
Jewish preeminence in the Bolshevik slaughterfest is almost as rare as an 
apology from Ken McVay.

Faithfully,

-- 


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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun  7 13:54:14 PDT 1996
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As a former JBS member, perhaps I can enlighten you as to the JBS's 
position on criticism of Jews (which is what everyone really means when 
they say "anti-Semitism").

The JBS (at least in 1977-1983) had a standard answer for those 
members who decided that organized Jewry might be a factor in the 
subversion of the Old America. The answer was a little pamphlet, written 
by Welch himself, called _The Neutralizers_. I am sorry I do not have a 
copy at hand.

Its premise was that anyone who criticized Jewish activities or 
organizations was a "neutralizer" out to destroy the Society. If the 
warning went unheeded, and the member persisted in thinking forbidden 
thoughts about Very Special and Chosen People, then he was expelled from 
membership.

I personally know one man who was kicked out of the Birch Society when he 
persisted in his (well-justified) criticism of the Anti-Defamation League 
of B'nai B'rith. And I was a friend of the late Dr. Revilo Oliver, one of 
the founding members of the Society who resigned over this very issue in 
1966. By the way, Dr. Oliver, a professor of the Classics at the 
University of Illinois, was also one of the founders of _National Review_ 
and received a free founder's subscription until the day he died in 1994. 
His opinion of Buckley was about the same as Washington's opinion of 
Benedict Arnold; that is, a bit higher than his opinion of Welch.

If I can answer any more questions on this topic, please feel free to 
ask.

With good wishes to you and yours,


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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun  7 14:45:39 PDT 1996
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Eugene Holman wrote:
> 
> In article <31B37B88.246D@ix.netcom.com>, Kevin Alfred Strom
>  wrote:
> 
> SNIP!
> >
> > Anti-White polemicists quibble for megabytes on their inability to define
> > the White race; but I am afraid the Emperor is naked: a distinct race
> > evolved and came to dominate Europe. Both its members and its detractors
> > can usually identify it at a glance. It is no more difficult to define
> > than the bluebirds or the bison.
> 
> I am not an anti-White polemicist nor, I hope, am I quibbling.


You are the one of the finest quibblers in this newsgroup.


> On the
> basis of their physical characteristics alone it is obviously easy to
> distinguish a 'typical' Swede from a 'typical' Nigerian. The problem is
> that, unlike bisons and bluebirds, the different races interbreed. They
> always have, and probably always will. The characteristics of the other
> race tend to 'wash out' after three or four generations, so 'typicalness'
> is retained.
> 

At their peripheries, different species of Bluebirds also interbreed and 
there are intermediate forms. But "always will" is a big question for the 
bluebirds and man alike. The eastern and mountain bluebirds are fairly 
well along in the process of differentiation. Eventually, they may differ 
enough so that all interbreeding will cease. Further -- and more rapid -- 
differentiation may then occur, and interbreeding may become actually 
impossible. That is how many new species are formed. That is not to say 
that the intermediate forms may not continue to exist also -- who knows?

Clearly, Europeans are diverging from -- evolving in a different 
direction -- Blacks and Asians. Whether the divergence will continue to 
increase or be stopped by massive interbreeding is the question that 
neither of us can answer.


> SNIP!
> >
> > "Does this include Italy, Spain, Portugal, France?" Yes. As long as we
> > are talking about the founding stocks of those nations and their lineal
> > descendants. A descendant of a Negro slave in Portugal isn't White. A
> > newly-arrived Ethiopian in Rome isn't White.
> 
> Now, in the light of the above, I would like to know why, let us say, a
> third generation descendant of a Negro slave in Portugal isn't White.
> Assuming that 7/8 of his genetic heritage is White, why must he be denied
> 'Whiteness' for that 1/8? Why is the fact that he has one Black
> great-grandparent enough to negate the other 7/8 per cent of his heritage?

Because of the _feeling_ of racial kinship which is inborn in us, and 
which naturally makes us prefer our own kind as mates. There is a feeling 
of racial distance, of an alien quality (not "hatred," by the way) 
partaking of primitiveness when Congoid or Capoid or Australoid 
characteristics are discernible. The same degree of mixture with, say, 
Japanese, might not even be noticed. But then Japanese have larger 
brains, finer features, straight hair, thin lips, etc. The perceived 
difference is less.

These natural racial feelings, like it or not, are a driving force behind 
evolution.

The unwritten "anyone who looks the slightest bit Black is non-White" 
rule (which has its basis in our natural feelings) has a very real 
effect: it protects the gene pool -- not _absolutely_, of course -- but 
it has a huge impact. If the freedom of association that has been 
outlawed and denigrated for the last few decades were restored to the 
peoples of the West, then its protective role would resume in full force.




> 
> And what's this you say about 'founding stocks'? Nations typically evolve
> from ethnic mixtures. Let us consider one typical but illustrative
> example. Between the last Ice Age and the Renaissance, Britain has had at
> least three Celtic invasions, including one which seems to point to
> Northern Africa, a Roman invasion, which brought in colonists from all
> over the Mediterranean world, a Saxon invasion, which brought in Germanic
> tribes from what is now norther-western Germany and Holland, several
> Viking invasions, an invasion of transplanted Danes ('the Normans') who
> masqueraded as and had partially assimlated with Frenchmen, and large
> scale immigration from the Low Countries.


All of which were White.



> The Renaissance introduced
> Britain to Amerindians, west Africans, and the inhabitants of the Indian
> subcontinent, 


None of which arrived in any substantial numbers until the multiracial 
madness began after WWII, and who, because of those wicked racial 
feelings again, did not intermarry with Britons to any significant degree 
before that time, as you well know.


> subsequent colonization brought in East and South Africans,
> Arabs, Chinese, Malaysians, Australians, Maoris and others. 


(By "Australians" I believe Mr. Holman means Australoids, not White 
Australians.) None of these last have assimilated into the British 
people. They are considered foreigners, as are their offspring including 
half-breeds, and form alien communities within Britain, which is what 
"minority group" means. Have you been to Britain, by any chance? Have you 
talked to the ordinary people there?



> Even if
> invasions meant battles and some ethnic cleansing, for the most part each
> new wave of invaders or immigrants was assimilated into the people already
> living there.


Ridiculous when referring to the non-Whites. Ask yourself _why_ were 
Whites assimilated while the non-Whites weren't? It's those "awful" 
natural and good racial feelings again....


> Any talk of a 'founding stock' is a flagrant and puerile


Naughty, naughty. I didn't call you puerile when you repeated the hoary 
chestnut about Jesse Owens as fact.


> simplification of history. Even as seemingly homogeneous people as the
> Swedes reveals itself to have developed from Danes, Norwegians, Goths,
> immigrants from northern Germany and the Low countries, Finns, Lapps,
> Poles, and Russians, to name the most important and obvious contributors.


The Lapps are for all practical purposes a separate nation. All the 
others you mention are not only the same race but with miniscule 
exceptions the same _subrace_. Your example is not very convincing.

A tribe or a group of tribes coalesce into a people, who found a nation. 
Almost always these people are of the same race -- but even when they 
aren't -- if they coalesce and have a consciousness of themselves as a 
people, _then they are a people_. In the real world, that is the only 
definition that matters. They are the founding stock of that nation. By 
their feelings, beliefs, laws and customs they will determine who can 
marry into the tribe or the nation.


  
> 
> It has been estimated that at least 40% of the Black population of the US
> has some 'White blood'


Actually, you have scrambled your facts. It is not that 40 per cent. of 
Blacks have some White ancestry (implying that 60 per cent. do not) -- it 
is that, taken as a whole, American Blacks have an average of 40 per 
cent. White ancestry. (Some studies say slightly under 30 per cent., but 
the point is the same.)



> ; a considerable proportion of the 'White'
> population has 'Black blood', but there are various ways to hide this and
> 'pass for White'.
> 


If I was cruel...



> Your definition of White and Black based on 'identification at a glance'
> is far too simplistic; the fact that a person who is as much White as
> Non-White, or even overwhelmingly White and miniscully non-White, is
> regarded as Non-White shows that you are dealing with a subjective rather
> than an objective classification.
> 

Yes, it is subjective -- isn't the title of this thread "Racial 
Feelings..."? But there is an evolutionary reason, a physical reality, 
and a survival value behind those feelings. And they will play their part 
in the destiny of man and the universe, as they always have.


With all good wishes,

-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun  7 18:18:07 PDT 1996
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As a former JBS member, perhaps I can enlighten you as to the JBS's 
position on criticism of Jews (which is what everyone really means when 
they say "anti-Semitism").

The JBS (at least in 1977-1983) had a standard answer for those 
members who decided that organized Jewry might be a factor in the 
subversion of the Old America. The answer was a little pamphlet, written 
by Welch himself, called _The Neutralizers_. I am sorry I do not have a 
copy at hand.

Its premise was that anyone who criticized Jewish activities or 
organizations was a "neutralizer" out to destroy the Society. If the 
warning went unheeded, and the member persisted in thinking forbidden 
thoughts about Very Special and Chosen People, then he was expelled from 
membership.

I personally know one man who was kicked out of the Birch Society when he 
persisted in his (well-justified) criticism of the Anti-Defamation League 
of B'nai B'rith. And I was a friend of the late Dr. Revilo Oliver, one of 
the founding members of the Society who resigned over this very issue in 
1966. By the way, Dr. Oliver, a professor of the Classics at the 
University of Illinois, was also one of the founders of _National Review_ 
and received a free founder's subscription until the day he died in 1994. 
His opinion of Buckley was about the same as Washington's opinion of 
Benedict Arnold; that is, a bit higher than his opinion of Welch.

If I can answer any more questions on this topic, please feel free to 
ask.

With good wishes to you and yours,


-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

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Who cares if the John Birch Society is or was "extremist"?

Extreme: "The highest or utmost degree of anything; any state, quality, 
action, or object..."

In a political or moral sense, the term is meaningless unless one 
defines: "An extreme of what?" Bill Clinton, for example, might be 
described as an "extremist" since he displays an "extreme" lack of 
credibility.

For all practical purposes, the word "extremist" (which, strictly, might 
apply to radical leftists far more appropriately than to the basically 
conservative John Birch Society) as used since the 1950s is a wonderfully 
vague smear word used to defame anti-Communists.

The primary quality of this word as it used today -- the one that endears 
it so to liberals and the media -- is that by characterizing another as 
an "extremist" you are positioning yourself as part of the "reputable," 
"respectable," "majority view," and marginalizing your opponent.

Since the boobs haven't yet caught on to the various "lottery" and 
"gaming" swindles now operated by the government, I doubt that very many 
of them will catch on to the "extremist" con anytime soon.

Happy June,


-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

p.s.: I phrased an earlier post about the JBS in a clumsy manner, making 
my meaning unclear. What I should have said was: Benjamin Freedman was 
never a member of the John Birch Society -- and I am no longer a member 
of the John Birch Society. 

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun  7 18:43:03 PDT 1996
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As a former JBS member, perhaps I can enlighten you as to the JBS's 
position on criticism of Jews (which is what everyone really means when 
they say "anti-Semitism").

The JBS (at least in 1977-1983) had a standard answer for those 
members who decided that organized Jewry might be a factor in the 
subversion of the Old America. The answer was a little pamphlet, written 
by Welch himself, called _The Neutralizers_. I am sorry I do not have a 
copy at hand.

Its premise was that anyone who criticized Jewish activities or 
organizations was a "neutralizer" out to destroy the Society. If the 
warning went unheeded, and the member persisted in thinking forbidden 
thoughts about Very Special and Chosen People, then he was expelled from 
membership.

I personally know one man who was kicked out of the Birch Society when he 
persisted in his (well-justified) criticism of the Anti-Defamation League 
of B'nai B'rith. And I was a friend of the late Dr. Revilo Oliver, one of 
the founding members of the Society who resigned over this very issue in 
1966. By the way, Dr. Oliver, a professor of the Classics at the 
University of Illinois, was also one of the founders of _National Review_ 
and received a free founder's subscription until the day he died in 1994. 
His opinion of Buckley was about the same as Washington's opinion of 
Benedict Arnold; that is, a bit higher than his opinion of Welch.

If I can answer any more questions on this topic, please feel free to 
ask.

With good wishes to you and yours,


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Who cares if the John Birch Society is or was "extremist"?

Extreme: "The highest or utmost degree of anything; any state, quality, 
action, or object..."

In a political or moral sense, the term is meaningless unless one 
defines: "An extreme of what?" Bill Clinton, for example, might be 
described as an "extremist" since he displays an "extreme" lack of 
credibility.

For all practical purposes, the word "extremist" (which, strictly, might 
apply to radical leftists far more appropriately than to the basically 
conservative John Birch Society) as used since the 1950s is a wonderfully 
vague smear word used to defame anti-Communists.

The primary quality of this word as it used today -- the one that endears 
it so to liberals and the media -- is that by characterizing another as 
an "extremist" you are positioning yourself as part of the "reputable," 
"respectable," "majority view," and marginalizing your opponent.

Since the boobs haven't yet caught on to the various "lottery" and 
"gaming" swindles now operated by the government, I doubt that very many 
of them will catch on to the "extremist" con anytime soon.

Happy June,


-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

p.s.: I phrased an earlier post about the JBS in a clumsy manner, making 
my meaning unclear. What I should have said was: Benjamin Freedman was 
never a member of the John Birch Society -- and I am no longer a member 
of the John Birch Society. 

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun  7 20:28:23 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: Karl Marx on Jews and Judaism, Part III
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Caesar wrote:
> 
> Racists on this ng keep trying to say that Marx was a Jew.
> 
> Pretty odd, since he hated all religions (he called
> them the opium of the masses).
> 

May I quote Dr. Frederick Lachman, Executive Editor, _Encyclopedia 
Judaica_?

"Born in the Rhineland town of Trier (then West Prussia), Marx was the 
son of Jewish parents, Heinrich and Henrietta Marx. Heinrich Marx became 
a successful lawyer, and when an edict prevented Jews from being 
advocates he converted to Protestantism in 1817. In 1824, when Karl was 
six years old, his father converted his eight children, the authoritative 
Enclyclopedia Judaica reports. Heinrich, whose original name was Hirschel 
ha-Levi, was the son of a rabbi and the descendant of Talmudic scholars 
for many generations. Hirschel's brother was chief rabbi of Trier. 
Heinrich Marx married Henrietta Pressburg, who originated in Hungary and 
whose father became a rabbi in Nijmegen, Holland."

It is strange that Jews do not generally claim that apostates to their 
religion automatically become non-Jews. Obviously, Marxists, unless 
schizophrenic or ignorant of their own cult, cannot adhere to Judaism -- 
yet Jewish reference works claim people like Marx, Trotsky, and Herbert 
Aptheker (a leading Communist theoretician) as Jews. Obviously they think 
that bloodlines have something to do with Jewishness.

It is only common courtesy to believe them.

Keep trying,


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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun  7 20:28:24 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: More on the postwar campaigns against Jews in USSR
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Craig Lambert wrote:
> ...
> 
> So the Jews "worship the west" in the USSR, and that makes them bad in the
> USSR, but they're supposedly part of a 'Commie plot' here in the west at
> the behest of the SU, which is why we here should hate them.  Why does the
> image of that old tradition, the 'scapegoat' keep springing to mind?
> 
> Racists sing in many tongues, in many lands across the globe, but the song
> remains the same: "Duh?"
> 

The Jews, an intelligent race to say the least, are cohesive and "racist" 
to a degree that most Whites would find extreme.

It may have seemed ridiculous to an outsider that powerful Jewish 
capitalist Jacob Schiff should bankroll the Bolshevik Revolution, the 
ostensible purpose of which was to dispossess capitalists of their lucre.

But Schiff was more perceptive than his critics.

He well knew that the "revolution of the workers" was nothing but a fraud 
and that the Communism never had anything to do with helping poor people 
or with dispossessing the rich. It was simply a way to take power and 
property and to kill one's enemies. Which they did.

Schiff knew that blood was thicker than ideology; so did Armand Hammer.

Such men are, and perhaps we should be, above such considerations as 
conventional politics. To them, the concept of "believing" in a political 
philosophy is laughable, and proclamations of belief are only for the 
consumption of the suckers, even among their own people.

The fact that this amoral anti-national structure of pure power politics 
spawned a Stalin and ate some of its own is only to be expected. I said 
Jews were very intelligent, not that they never make mistakes.

In fact, the Jews' sponsorship and bankrolling of the Black revolution 
may turn out to be another mistake, from the way things are shaping up.

Happy Internetting,


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Craig Lambert wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 02 Jun 1996 05:32:52 -0700, Kevin Alfred Strom
>  wrote:...
> >
> >I have provided several references showing both Jewish and non-Jewish
> >Communists and Soviets stating that "anti-Semitism" was a crime in the
> >Soviet Union (or ought to be one in the United States). Stalin said that
> >"active anti-Semites" in the Soviet Union were being punished with death.
> >
> And I have shown that Joseph Stalin was himself an active anti-Semite who
> had motives, such as political expediency and scoring diplomatic and
> propaganda points, to lie about such a death penalty.  In 1938, at the time
> the remark you cited was made, Germany was on the move in Europe and many
> in Europe were courting alliances with Stalin against Germany.  Of course,
> we know which way this honest man jumped: he opted to ally with Germany and
> betray every shredded ideal his party still feebly upheld.
> 
> >Now, I agree that law in most countries is what the elite says it is, and
> >that was especially so in the Soviet Union. And I agree that Stalin
> >killed anyone who got in his way, including not a few Jews.
> >
> He did not just kill people who happened to be Jewish, for other reasons,
> he systematically killed people BECAUSE they were Jewish.  One is a killer,
> the other is a killer who is also an anti-Semite.
> 


I believe that Stalin arranged for the death of anyone who got in his 
way, or was a real or perceived threat to his personal power. 
With a bureaucracy very heavily Jewish, it was inevitable that 
many of these would be Jews; and it was inevitable that Stalin 
might suspect some, even many Jews of having more loyalty to their own 
people than to Marxism or to the cult of Joe Dzugahsvili. But -- millions 
of Jews continued to be a part of the Soviet system under Stalin, 
some in influential positions, something that certainly can't be said 
about WWII Germany.

I am glad to see, though, that despite our disagreements, we concur on 
the powerful Jewish influence on and participation in the Bolshevik 
Revolution, and the criminalization of "anti-Semitism" there.


> >But the repeated pronouncements of leading Communists as to their
> >position on this issue, coupled with the Jewish preponderance in the
> >founding of the Bolshevik state, lead me to believe that fervent if not
> >violent opposition to "anti-Semitism" was in fact one of the founding
> >principles of Soviet Communism. And my reading in the field also leads me
> >to believe that the inheritors of the Marxist mantle in the West today,
> >in almost all of their factions and sects, would continue to adhere to
> >that position.
> >
> >I have provided ample documentation of my thesis. If, after this
> >clarification, you still disagree with my thesis, then please provide
> >some evidence.
> >
> 
> I have done so elsewhere, in a series of new threads.  I believe the
> evidence shows that anti-semetism was, to many of the early communists, a
> distasteful reminder of the Tsarist state they overthrew.  They acted to
> curb displays of anti-semitism up through 1930s, although I find no
> evidence there was ever a law punishing anti-semitism with death, as
> initially claimed.  And note that whereas the suppression of Jewish
> religious observance was nearly complete, suppression of anti-semitism
> failed: anti-semitism eventually became official policy once again.
> 

You failed to address one point, though. Is it not a fact that (almost?) 
all modern Marxist sects continue to at least demonize where they would 
not actually criminalize "anti-Semitism"?

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William R. Discipio Jr wrote:
> 
> tim decker ("decklap"@tezcat.com) wrote:
> 
> : Well since you just "happen" to have *one* JBS book then you can
> : direct me to the primary source documentation therein that
> : supports these specific claims:
> 
> : Eisenhower was a communist dupe
> : As was Nixon
> : As was JFK
> : As was Earl Warren
> : Existence of the Insiders
> : Their responsibility for starting WW1
> : Civil-rights movement is a communist plot.
> 
> : If you just want to show-off some footnotes then by all
> : means continue.  Unless you are able to INCORPORATE them
> : into the discussion then they mean less than nothing.
> 
> What a moron you are Timmy Decker.  You can filibuster to your heart's
> content, but when you are presented with citations, you get all hot and
> bothered.
> 
> : BTW.  Make damn sure you understand what primary sources are
> : before you waste any more of your time.
> 
> Rant and rave...
> 
> : td

Well, Decker wants documentation from an insider. I think Benjamin 
Freedman qualifies as an insider who decided to become a whistle-blower.

Neither he nor I are or were members of the John Birch Society, and speak 
only for ourselves. Freedman passed away in the 70s, so direct all 
screaming at me, Mr. Decker.

Here are Freedman's words:
--------------------------------------------------------------

The Hidden Tyranny Revealed

A transcript of three AMERICAN DISSIDENT VOICES radio programs.
For further information, write National Vanguard Books, Box 330,
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      Program of 15th October, 1994

Today I am going to introduce to you a man whose insights and
revelations are of the highest importance to the future of our
nation and people, a man who is reviled and hated by the enemies
of America, and a man who for over half a century was at the very
center of the hidden power which created Communism and which now
misrules the United States.

Benjamin H. Freedman was born in 1890, and, by an ironic twist of
fate, the delivering physician at his birth was Dr. Simon Baruch,
the father of arch-conspirator against America, Wall Street
speculator, and advisor and handler of U.S. Presidents from World
War I to 1965, Mr. Bernard M. Baruch. In Mr. Freedman's own
words, writing during the years of the Nixon administration:

             " Mr. Bernard Baruch  was a good friend of this
author's family and would very often consult this author.... [I]
have been in a position since 1912 to witness what was going on
behind the scenes. This author served on the National Democratic
Committee in the 1912 campaign that elected President Wilson to
his first term. No doors have been closed to this author since
then."

Benjamin Freedman was raised in a Jewish family and brought up in
the Jewish religion. He lived in New York City, and was a wealthy
and very successful businessman, eventually becoming the
principal owner of the Woodbury Soap Company. He was a witness to
and to some extent a participant in the political and financial
manipulations that resulted in the rise of Communism, the
establishment of Israel as a Zionist state, and the Jewish
domination of American politics and American media. As an agent
of Jewish interests, he had access to and interviewed at length
seven presidents of the United States.

After the end of the War to Impose the New World Order in 1945,
Mr. Freedman became convinced that he had a responsibility to
speak out. He had been an agent of, and privy to the councils of,
the Judaeo-Communist apparatus which was at that time about to
launch two of its greatest projects: the creation of a one-world
government under the name United Nations, and the establishment
of Israel as a Zionist state over the dead bodies of thousands of
Palestinians. He had been concerned over the increasing power of
his co-religionists, and their irresponsible use of that power,
for some time. He broke with Judaism and became a convert to
Catholicism.

His scholarship and research in the field of Jewish origins led
him to believe that the popular conceptions about Jews and
Judaism were so manifestly false that the words themselves should
be rejected. In his writings you will often find him referring to
so-called or self-styled Jews or to Talmudists, meaning the
followers of the Talmud, a holy book of modern Judaism.

In 1946 he founded the League for Peace and Justice in Palestine.
Arnold Forster, a high official of the Anti-Defamation League of
B'nai B'rith or ADL, in his 1988 autobiography Square One, called
Benjamin Freedman "an affluent, apostate, self-hating Jew." The
magazine Commentary (published by the American Jewish Committee)
for February, 1955, referred to him as "Jewish anti-Semite
Benjamin Freedman." Freedman himself stated in 1954:

             " The word anti-Semitism is another word which
should be eliminated from the English language. [The word] anti-
Semitism serves only one purpose today. It is used as a smear
word. When so-called or self-styled Jews feel that anyone opposes
any of their objectives they discredit their victims by applying
the word anti-Semite or anti-Semitic through all the channels
they have at their command and under their control. I can speak
with great authority on that subject. Because so-called or self-
styled Jews were unable to disprove my public statements in 1946
with regard to the situation in Palestine, they spent millions of
dollars to smear me as an anti-Semite hoping thereby to discredit
me in the eyes of the public who were very much interested in
what I had to say. Until 1946 I was a little saint to all so-
called or self-styled Jews. When I disagreed with them publicly
on the Zionist intentions in Palestine I became suddenly Anti-
Semite No. 1."

Benjamin H. Freedman was in truth a defector from the forces
which have been working to destroy our Republic and our
civilization. Let us see what he had to say. Today we will be
exploring Mr. Freedman's amazing book The Hidden Tyranny,
published in the early 1970s. The following are the words of Mr.
Freedman:

              The names of Presidents Woodrow Wilson, Franklin D.
Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman, Dwight D. Eisenhower, John F.
Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon will certainly be
found one day inscribed in big red letters in the official annals
of the rise and fall of the United States. These seven masters of
deception incurred their guilt by debasing their solemn oaths of
office on behalf of undisclosed domestic and foreign principals
without any apparent qualms or misgivings, to enhance their
political fortunes totally oblivious to the threat to United
States security and survival.

              ...The disclosures which follow here are now
revealed for the first time anywhere. They now expose for the
first time to the grass roots population of the United States the
secret un-American, non-American, and anti-American strategy to
which these seven masters of deception knowingly subscribed.

              ...Very early in their political careers, these
seven masters of deception... acquired their proficient skill in
detecting on which side their political bread was buttered.
....Throughout their political careers [they] demonstrated that
political shrewdness invariably identified with the immoral dogma
of 20th century politicians who preach and practice any means
justifies all ends. Accordingly, future grass roots populations
of the United States will one day find inscribed in the history
of the rise and fall of the United States the verdict that the
means ...advocated by these seven masters of deception were
primarily responsible for the end of the United States.

              It is today a well recognized fact of life in
political circles in the United States that the censorship
exercised by Zionists over the media for mass information
constitutes a virtual monopoly. It is likewise today a well
recognized fact of life in political circles in the United States
since President Wilson won his first election in 1912 as
President of the United States, that elections in the United
States are seldom won or lost today based upon the candidates'
qualification for office. Elections in the United States since
1912 are won or lost on the battlefields of the media for mass
information....

              Zionist ownership of media for mass communication,
or by Zionist control exercised by some devious corporate device,
in effect and in fact censors the news and editorial policies of
all the leading daily and Sunday newspapers, all the weekly and
monthly news magazines, all leading radio and television stations
and networks, the entire motion picture industry, the entire
entertainment world and the entire book publishing industry, in
effect and in fact the entire complex of media for mass
information in the United States, truly a brainwashing monopoly.

              As a result of that condition in the United States,
for approximately the past fifty years the grass roots population
of the United States has only read, heard and seen what passed
Zionist censorship and best served Zionist objectives....

              The Zionist-ruled media for mass information in the
United States never informed the grass roots population... how
and why President Woodrow Wilson lied the United States into the
desperate predicament in which the United States now finds itself
in the Middle East.

              ...The United States declared war against Germany
on April 6, 1917. On April 2, 1917, President Wilson addressed
both houses of Congress and pleaded with them to declare war
against Germany. President Wilson's appeal to Congress... was
primarily President Wilson's liquidation of his obligation to his
blackmailers. The following incontestable facts confirm that
conclusion beyond all question of any doubt.

              President Wilson's hand trembled as he read his
address. The members of Congress present had no reason to suspect
why President Wilson's hand trembled. ...By the time President
Wilson finished reading his appeal to Congress, many of his
listeners were in tears but not for the reason the grass roots
population of the United States today will be in tears when they
finish reading this manuscript.

              ...Congress only declared war against Germany
because President Wilson informed Congress that a German
submarine had sunk the S.S. Sussex in the English channel in
violation of international law and that United States citizens
aboard the S.S. Sussex had perished with the ship.

              After General Pershing's troops were fighting in
Europe, the hoax was exposed. ...The S.S. Sussex had not been
sunk and no United States citizens had lost their lives. The
United States was now at war in Europe as Great Britain's ally.
That is what Great Britain and the Talmudist Jews of the world
conspired to achieve in their crooked diplomatic underworld.

              The discovery of the hoax by the British Navy
shocked many honorable Englishmen. ...The S.S. Sussex was
available for anyone to visit who might care to do so to see the
S.S. Sussex for themselves with their own eyes. In that war the
United States mobilized 4,734,991 men to serve in the armed
forces, of whom 115,516 were killed and 202,002 were either
injured or maimed for life.

              This author crossed the English Channel many times
on the S.S. Sussex. The alleged sinking of the S.S. Sussex was
the figment of an over-worked Zionist imagination.

              Shortly after President Wilson's first
inauguration, President Wilson received a visitor in the White
House by [the name of] Mr. Samuel Untermeyer. Mr. Untermeyer was
a prominent New York City attorney who contributed generously to
the National Democratic Committee that installed President Wilson
in the White House....

              Mr. Untermeyer surprised President Wilson when he
finally stated what brought him to the White House. Mr.
Untermeyer informed President Wilson that he had been retained to
bring a breach of promise action against President Wilson. Mr.
Untermeyer informed President Wilson that his client was willing
to accept $40,000 in lieu of commencing the breach of promise
action. Mr. Untermeyer's client was the former wife of a
professor at Princeton University at the same time President
Wilson was a professor at Princeton University.

          Mr. Untermeyer produced a packet of letters from his
pocket, written by President Wilson to his colleague's wife when
they were neighbors at Princeton University. These letters
established the illicit relationship which had existed between
President Wilson and the wife of his colleague neighbor.
President Wilson had written many endearing letters to the wife
of his colleague, many of which she never destroyed. President
Wilson acknowledged his authorship of the letters after examining
a few of them.

              President Wilson left Princeton University to
become the Governor of New Jersey. In 1912 President Wilson was
elected to his first term as President of the United States. In
the interim, President Wilson's former sweetheart had divorced
her husband and married again. Her second husband resided in
Washington with a grown son who was in the employ of one of the
leading banks in Washington.

              Mr. Untermeyer explained to President Wilson that
his former sweetheart was very fond of her husband's son. Mr.
Untermeyer explained that this son was in financial trouble. This
son suddenly needed $40,000, as he told the story, to liquidate a
pressing liability to the bank for which he worked. The details
are not relevant here except that the son needed the $40,000
badly and he needed it quickly. President Wilson's former
sweetheart thought that President Wilson was the logical prospect
for that $40,000 to help her husband's son.

              ...President Wilson expressed himself as very
fortunate that his former sweetheart went to Mr. Untermeyer to
seek his assistance. The publicity could have proved very
embarrassing to President Wilson if his former sweetheart had
instead consulted a Republican attorney.

              President Wilson quickly set Mr. Untermeyer's mind
at rest by informing Mr. Untermeyer that he did not have $40,000
available for any purpose. Mr. Untermeyer suggested that
President Wilson should think the matter over....

              Mr. Untermeyer returned to President Wilson a few
days later as they had agreed. President Wilson did not hesitate
to inform Mr. Untermeyer that he did not have the $40,000 to pay
his blackmailer. President Wilson appeared irritated. Mr.
Untermeyer considered the matter a few moments and then
volunteered a solution to President Wilson for his problem.

              Mr. Untermeyer volunteered to give President
Wilson's former sweetheart the $40,000 out of his own pocket on
one condition. Mr. Untermeyer's condition was that President
Wilson promise Mr. Untermeyer to appoint to the first vacancy on
the United States Supreme Court a nominee to be recommended to
President Wilson by Mr. Untermeyer.

              Without further talk, President Wilson accepted Mr.
Untermeyer's generous offer. Mr. Untermeyer promptly paid $40,000
in currency to President Wilson's former sweetheart. The
contemplated breach of promise suit was never heard of after
that. Mr. Untermeyer retained in his possession permanently the
packet of letters.... President Wilson was most grateful to Mr.
Untermeyer for everything he was doing to solve his problem.

              Mr. Untermeyer was a man of great wealth. The law
firm in New York of which Mr. Untermeyer was the leading partner,
Messrs. Guggenheim, Untermeyer, and Marshall, is still today one
of the nation's most prominent and prosperous law firms. Mr.
Untermeyer organized the Bethlehem Steel Company for his friend
Mr. Charles M. Schwab.

              ...Mr. Untermeyer paid $40,000 ...out of his own
pocket in the hope it might bring to pass a dream close to his
heart, a Talmudist Jew on the United States Supreme Court where
none ever served.

              The day soon arrived when President Wilson was
presented with the necessity of appointing a new member of the
United States Supreme Court. Mr. Untermeyer recommended Louis
Dembitz Brandeis for the vacancy. President Wilson immediately
appointed him.... President Wilson and Justice Brandeis became
unusually intimate friends. Justice Brandeis knew the
circumstances of his appointment by President Wilson....

              In 1914 Justice Brandeis was the most prominent and
most politically influential of all Zionists in the United
States.

              ...Justice Brandeis volunteered his opinion to
President Wilson that the sinking of the S.S. Sussex by a German
submarine in the English channel with the loss of lives of United
States citizens justified the declaration of war against Germany
by the United States. Relying to a great extent upon the legal
opinion of Justice Brandeis, President Wilson... appealed to
Congress to declare war against Germany and they did on April 6,
1917.

              The declaration of war against Germany by the
United States guaranteed [to] the Talmudist Jews throughout the
world that Palestine was to be turned over to them upon the
defeat of Germany. The defeat of Germany was certain if the
United States could be railroaded into the war in Europe as Great
Britain's ally.

              Prior to the October 1916 London Agreement,
Talmudist Jews throughout the world were pro-German. The German
Emancipation Edict of 1822 guaranteed Talmudist Jews in Germany
all civil rights enjoyed by Germans. ...Germany was the only
country in Europe which did not place restrictions on Talmudist
Jews....

              Talmudist Jews throughout the world were informed
by cable from London about the October 1916 London Agreement.
That information transformed Talmudist Jews throughout the world
>from  pro-German to pro-British. Great Britain placed at the
disposal of Talmudist Jews in London their secret codes and
worldwide cable facilities to inform Talmudist Jews throughout
the world about Great Britain's pledge to turn over Palestine to
them as compensation for railroading the United States into the
war in Europe as Great Britain's ally....

              On April 6, 1917, President Wilson and Justice
Brandeis knew something the grass roots population of the United
States did not know. [They] knew the declaration of war by the
United States against Germany discharged President Wilson from
his obligation to his blackmailers....

              There was seldom any address made to Congress that
stirred the people of the United States and the world, as
President Wilson's April 2, 1917, plea to Congress to declare war
against Germany. President Wilson was aware when he addressed
Congress that Germany had not committed any act against the
United States which justified a declaration of war.... This
author at that time knew President Wilson was informed to that
effect before President Wilson made his plea to Congress....


      Program of 22d October, 1994


              In referring to the declaration of war against
Germany by the United States, Sir Winston Churchill said in an
interview with a prominent editor published in Scribner's
Commentator in 1936....

              "America should have minded her own business and
stayed out of the World War. If you hadn't entered the war the
Allies would have made peace with Germany in the Spring of 1917."

              Germany's peace offer to Great Britain asked for
neither indemnities nor reparations. Germany offered to restore
the territorial status and political independence of every
country with whom Great Britain was at war, as they existed in
August 1914 when the war in Europe started. Germany demanded no
benefits.

              Germany's October 1916 peace offer was on the table
before the British War Cabinet. Germany's... peace offer needed
only one signature to end the war. Great Britain would have
quickly accepted... if the World Zionist Organization had not
interfered.....

              When the British War Cabinet decided to accept
Germany's October 1916 peace offer, the World Zionist
Organization offered to railroad the United States into the war
in Europe as Great Britain's ally if Great Britain promised the
Talmudist Jews of the world Palestine as compensation after
Germany's defeat....

              Talmudist Jew pressure in London and Talmudist Jew
pressure in New York prevailed. President Wilson had little
choice in the matter it seemed. President Wilson was the captive
of circumstances in his early life that could not be altered.
President Wilson's April 2, 1917, address to Congress was about
to decide the fate of the world.

              ...Germans regarded [these activities] as a double-
cross by Talmudist Jews....

              Talmudist Jews promise[d the] Germans victory, then
stab[bed] them in the back....

              The Kaiser provided the World Zionist Organization
with the offices for their world headquarters in Berlin. The
Kaiser, his family, and government officials were constantly
extending assistance to Theodor Herzl [Note: Theodor Herzl, 1860-
1904, was the founder of modern Zionism and the leader of the
World Zionist Organization.  --   Ed.]. Germany extended
opportunities to Talmudist Jews not available in other European
countries. The Kaiser himself arranged the personal meeting
between the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire and Theodor Herzl.

              Bleichroder and Company in Berlin were the private
bankers of the Kaiser's family for generations. They were
Talmudist Jews. Warburg and Company of Hamburg were the world's
largest merchant bankers. They were Talmudist Jews. The head of
the German General Electric Company, then the world's largest
industrial enterprise, was a Talmudist Jew.

              The attitude of Germans toward Talmudist Jews in
Germany and throughout the world worsened much after the October
1916 stab in the back....

              Talmudist Jews throughout the world made bad
matters worse on August 7, 1933, when [they] declared their holy
war to destroy the German nation by destroying their export trade
upon which their very existence depends. Under the leadership of
Mr. Samuel Untermeyer, Talmudist Jews of the world declared a
boycott on all German goods and services. They asked their
Christian friends to join their worldwide boycott....

              Mr. Samuel Untermeyer arranged for the
International Boycott Conference in Amsterdam in July 1933. Mr.
Untermeyer was elected there the president of the World Jewish
Economic Federation.....

              The New York Times of August 7, 1933, published the
Talmudist Jews' declaration of their holy war against Germany in
a three-column report of Mr. Untermeyer's address to the nation
>from  Columbia Broadcasting Company's studio on the night of his
arrival home from Europe. Mr. Untermeyer among other things
stated:

             " [The] holy war in which we are embarked... is a
war which must be waged unremittingly....

            " ...the Jews are the aristocrats of the world....

              "...[This] economic boycott against all German
goods, shipping, and services... is our only really effective
weapon... [to] bring the German people to their senses by
destroying their export trade on which their very existence
depends... we shall force them to learn... we will drive the last
nail in the coffin...."

              This statement was made on August 7, 1933, when not
a hair on the head of a Talmudist Jew in all Germany had been
touched. Germany was plunged into a depression difficult to
describe in a few words, Germany's export business suddenly
ending as if by magic. Talmudist Jews hoped [in] that way to stop
Germans from continuing to talk about why they lost the war.

              The eminent Rabbi Maurice L. Perlman, head of the
British section of the World Jewish Congress, stated to a
Canadian audience as reported by the Toronto Evening Telegram of
February 26, 1940, that The World Jewish Congress has been at war
with Germany for seven years.

              President Roosevelt was a captive of the Talmudist
Jews from the time he went to Albany as Governor of the State of
New York. ...President Roosevelt railroaded the United States
into the Second World War.

              Germany and Poland had agreed upon a formula giving
Germany access across the Danzig Corridor. President Wilson in
1919 created the Danzig Corridor which separated Germany into two
halves... separated by a strip of German territory granted to
Poland ...in order to keep Germany weak... at the instigation of
Talmudist Jews at the Versailles Peace Conference....

              Crossing the Danzig Corridor from western Germany
to eastern Germany or vice versa was like traveling from one
country to another country. [Due to] the inconveniences, the
delays and annoyances, Germany and Poland had finally worked out
their acceptable arrangement that eliminated a majority of German
objections to the Danzig Corridor. Germany and Poland reached a
basis that would serve to prevent Germany's resort to more
aggressive action.

              Adolf Hitler was the head of the German government
at the time. Talmudist Jews throughout the world opposed the
peaceful adjustment between Germany and Poland of the Danzig
Corridor situation. Unrestricted access of traffic between the
western half and eastern half of Germany would soon make Germany
again the most powerful country in the world. Talmudist Jews
throughout the world dreaded the thought.

              Shortly before the agreement with Germany was to be
signed, Poland secretly signed a treaty with Great Britain dated
August 25, 1939. Great Britain agreed in that treaty to hasten to
the military assistance of Poland ...if Poland were attacked by
Germany. With that assurance from Great Britain, Poland broke off
negotiations with Germany. Germany did not understand the reason
for Poland's sudden change of mind and decided to proceed with
the terms of arrangement agreed upon with Poland. That was the
start of World War II.

              Great Britain knowingly deceived Poland when [they]
promised military assistance.... Great Britain could not come to
Poland's assistance and Great Britain knew it when [the] offer of
military assistance... was made.

              Poland's unexplained discontinuance of negotiations
with Germany to complete the Danzig Corridor agreement resulted
in Germany's troops moving into the Danzig Corridor without an
agreement with Poland. Great Britain knew exactly what would take
place in that event, that it would mean the beginning of World
War II. The rest is history. Talmudist Jews of the world welcomed
a war against Germany in 1939....

              President Roosevelt tried his hardest in 1939 to
railroad the United States into the war in Europe to accommodate
Talmudist Jews in the United States. Germany learned by
experience in World War I that the entry of the United States
into the war in Europe in 1939 could prove equally disastrous to
Germany.... Germany exercised extraordinary caution not to
provide the United States with justification under international
law to declare war against Germany. That situation presented
President Roosevelt with a problem.

              President Roosevelt decided if it were impossible
for him to get into the war in Europe through the front door that
he would railroad the United States into the war in Europe
through the back door. Through the back door meant through Japan.

              ...Germany and Japan had a treaty under which if
either Germany or Japan were attacked by a third power, the
country which was not attacked by the third power automatically
is at war with that third power. President Roosevelt planned to
provoke Japan so Japan would attack the United States. Japan in
December 1941 attacked Pearl Harbor. The United States
immediately declared war against Japan and automatically was at
war with Germany.

              The personal diary of the Honorable Mr. Henry L.
Stimson and all his papers are in Yale University library. Mr.
Stimson each day entered in his personal diary in his own
handwriting the important events in his life that day. Mr.
Stimson was President Roosevelt's Secretary of War. Mr. Stimson's
diary was introduced as evidence in the United States Senate
investigation of the Pearl Harbor attack by Japan over the strong
objections of friends of President Roosevelt.

              Mr. Stimson entered in his diary on November 25,
1941, two weeks before Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor, that at a
meeting with President Roosevelt and his Cabinet that morning at
the White House, President Roosevelt told those present that he
wished to be at war against Japan but that he did not want it to
appear that the United States fired the first shot.

              ...President Roosevelt advised Japan they could
purchase no more steel scrap or oil from the United States. Japan
was in the midst of a war against China. Without scrap steel and
without oil Japan would be unable to continue that war. Japan was
totally dependent upon the United States for both steel scrap and
oil. ...President Roosevelt knowingly provoked Japan to attack
the United States.

              President Harry S. Truman made his great
contribution to the desperate predicament in which the United
States today finds itself in the Middle East when he recognized
as a sovereign state an armed uprising in Palestine by 800,000
armed aliens transplanted into Palestine in a conspiracy
organized by Talmudist Jews throughout the world. President
Truman in 1946 suffered from a pathological obsession that he
must be elected President of the United States in 1948 on his own
account.

              Mr. Clark M. Clifford [Note:  Clark M. Clifford,
1907- , attorney (Clifford and Warnke) and tired old
establishment war horse, was the architect of Truman's 1948
campaign and himself a strong advocate of recognizing Israel. He
also co-wrote the National Security Act, which created the
Central Intelligence Agency; organized the transition between the
Eisenhower and Kennedy administrations; and, until succeeded by
Nicholas Katzenbach in 1991, was chairman of First American
Bankshares, which had links to the infamous Bank of Credit and
Commerce International (BCCI). He defended BCCI twice; in 1978
against the SEC regarding BCCI's takeover of Financial General
Bankshares; and in 1989 against drug-related money-laundering
charges in Florida. In the latter case, BCCI paid a $15 million
fine; Clifford's retainer was $45.3 million. On July 29, 1992,
Clifford was indicted on ten counts by a federal grand jury for
his involvement in the BCCI affair.  --   Ed.], Secretary of
Defense under President Lyndon B. Johnson, deserves a great deal
of credit for the recognition of the State of Israel on May 14,
1948, by the United States. Mr. Eliahu Epstein, the United States
representative of the Jewish Agency in Washington in 1948, told
the story in his three page article in the Jewish Chronicle of
London in its 10th Anniversary issue... celebrating the founding
of the State of Israel.

              Mr. Clifford undoubtedly was anxious to help
because President Truman had confided in his close friends that
he wished to recognize the Zionist state in the first hour of its
birth as he did. The State of Israel was officially proclaimed in
Tel Aviv at midnight on May 14, 1948. President Truman recognized
the State of Israel eleven minutes after midnight.

              President Truman finally advised this author that
he did not wish to carry on the discussion of the Zionist
question with him any further. He wrote to this author that he
had turned over the entire Palestine question to the Honorable
David Niles. Talmudist Jews were willing to carry out their part
of the bargain with President Truman.... Although the odds in
President Truman's election were 20 to 1 against his election,
President Truman romped home the winner over Governor Dewey
assisted by the invisible and invincible Zionist political steam-
roller that always elects their candidates.

              President Truman not only used the power and
prestige of the United States to compel the United Nations to
admit the State of Israel as a peace loving nation... but he made
billions of United States taxpayer dollars available to Talmudist
Jews to make the State of Israel powerful.

              When the day to vote for the admission of the State
of Israel arrived, they were short two votes.

              The plan was about to collapse. In the emergency
Mr. Charles H. Silver engaged Cardinal Spellman to make two trips
to South America to change their votes in the United Nations....

              The newspapers around the world on June 11, 1964,
published Mr. Silver's confession of a secret I have kept for
fifteen years. The secret Cardinal Spellman kept with Mr. Silver
was that Cardinal Spellman was sent to South America by Mr.
Silver on behalf of the Talmudist Jews in New York....

              This author was a close personal friend of Cardinal
Spellman for twenty-five years. Cardinal Spellman confessed to
this author several years ago that he felt he had committed an
irreparable sin by conspiring with the Talmudist Jews... to elect
the State of Israel as a member of the United Nations. In the
midst of that bloody fighting in the Middle East in June 1967,
Cardinal Spellman told this author when alone with him in his
study that he felt personally responsible for all the lives lost
in the 1967 invasion of the United Arab Republic and Syria by the
State of Israel.

      Program of 29th October, 1994

              The story of how President Dwight D. Eisenhower
lied the United States into the desperate predicament in which
the United States today finds itself in the Middle East is not a
complicated story. Talmudist Jews in the United States pressured
President Eisenhower into sponsoring... House Joint Resolution
117 on January 5, 1957. President Eisenhower knew less about what
he was then doing than a new born babe. It was pitiful for this
author to witness a great General being figuratively pushed
around by Talmudist Jews unfit to shine his shoes.

              President Eisenhower was always friendly towards
this author. This author met President Eisenhower when he was
being considered by Mr. Thomas M. Watson, Sr. as a Presidential
candidate on the Democratic ticket. Mr. Watson was the founder of
the International Business Machines Company. Mr. Watson told this
author at that time that he believed General Eisenhower as a
civilian would make a great president.

              As President of the United States, General
Eisenhower was faithful to [the] Talmudist Jew supporters whose
friendship he first cultivated in Europe during his political
activities in Germany after the end of World War II.... Talmudist
Jews knew that as President of the United States, General
Eisenhower in their hands would be like clay in the hands of the
potter.

              In 1956 it appeared that the Middle East countries
were undergoing changes in their governments. The Zionist illegal
occupation of Palestine still existed. Populations in Middle East
countries were growing restless. Talmudist Jews recognized that
something must be done to silence the unrest. President
Eisenhower obliged....

              Lebanon is the heart of Middle East political
activity. To nip action in the bud, by native populations aiming
to assert their independence from domination by Talmudist Jews,
Talmudist Jews arranged with President Eisenhower to occupy
Lebanon with 14,000 troops and to station the Sixth Fleet off the
coast. To make it legal Talmudist Jews had Congress pass a Joint
Resolution like the Tonkin Bay Resolution passed by Congress to
legalize the war in Viet Nam.

              Present Eisenhower... satisfied Talmudist Jews in
the United States at the expense of United States taxpayers.
President Eisenhower was warning the Middle East nations not to
attempt to regain Palestine from the Zionists....

              President Eisenhower... had a consortium of the
smartest Talmudist Jews in the State, Defense, and Justice
Departments prepare that Joint Resolution. The intent of [its]
unclear language is to conceal the purpose of the Joint
Resolution, not to explain its purpose. The purpose was to have a
Joint Resolution on record that would permit President Eisenhower
to use the United States armed forces and navy to aid and abet
the Zionist thieves to hold onto their stolen loot without any
necessity to ask Congress to declare war.

              Every word President Eisenhower uttered to defend
the crooks in occupation of Palestine was a lie which contributed
to the desperate predicament in which the United States today
finds itself.... Talmudist Jews in the United States were able to
camouflage their illegal aggression in the Middle East behind the
glamour of President Eisenhower's record as a great soldier.

              The story of how President John F. Kennedy lied the
United States into the desperate predicament in which the United
States today finds itself in the Middle East is very distressing.
President Kennedy's future was uncertain after digressing on
August 25, 1960, from the straight and narrow path he had
followed all his life.

              President Kennedy could not escape the consequences
of his betrayal of the high principles to which he aimed to
dedicate his life. President Kennedy surrendered to the lure of
Talmudist Jews who pledged to put him in the White House as the
President of the United States.

              On August 23, 1960, in the United States Senate
Office Building in Washington, President Kennedy, at that time a
Senator, gave this author a copy of the address he was to deliver
in New York City on August 25, 1960. In the copy of that address
which he gave this author... President Kennedy stated among other
things:

              "Israel is here to stay...[Israel] will endure and
flourish [and there is] a special obligation on the Democratic
Party.... It was President Truman who first recognized the new
State of Israel and gave it status in world affairs.... [It is]
my hope and my pledge to continue this Democratic tradition....
if the Democratic platform is to have any meaning the White House
must take the lead.... American intervention... will not now be
easy... I propose that we make it crystal clear... we will act
promptly and decisively.... ...our guarantee [is that] we will
act with whatever force and speed are necessary...."

              Senator Kennedy was giving Talmudist Jews his
pledge that as the President of the United States he would send
sons, husbands, and brothers of the grass roots population of the
United States to fight in Palestine... to aid and abet thieves
retain possession of their stolen plunder.

              This author met President Kennedy for the first
time in his father's office at 230 Park Avenue, in New York City,
on the day after he was elected for the first time as a
Congressman in November 1946. This author was in a conference
with Ambassador Joseph Kennedy and Judge Landis, an associate of
Ambassador Kennedy. In his private office they were consulting
this author on the Middle East situation which had recently taken
an ugly turn in the United Nations.

              Suddenly the door to the private office flew open
and in came the new Congressman. Congressman Kennedy was on his
way from Boston to Washington and burst into his father's office
bubbling with enthusiasm. Ambassador Kennedy introduced this
author to the new Congressman and advised his son that he would
do well to keep in touch with this author as a source of
information he would need soon on the Palestine question.

              Ambassador Kennedy discussed the subject matter for
a short while with those present. The Congressman then asked to
leave as he was catching a train for Washington. This author
invited the Congressman to lunch and he accepted. After lunch
Congressman Kennedy asked if this author had nothing else to do
than ride to Washington with him on the train. This author was
willing and rode to Washington with him.

              From that day in November 1946 to August 23, 1960,
this author saw the Congressman, and [later] Senator, countless
times at his office in Washington and New York City. This author
was happy to enlighten Senator Kennedy on the Palestine question.
Without a doubt there were soon few people in the world who were
better informed on this subject than Senator Kennedy.

              In the fourteen years this author had the honor of
enjoying the confidence of President Kennedy he never failed to
express his appreciation for this author's interest in his
career. President Kennedy also appreciated the friendship this
author demonstrated for his father, Ambassador Kennedy.
Ambassador Kennedy was blackmailed by President Roosevelt.
President Roosevelt told Ambassador Kennedy not to write the book
Ambassador Kennedy planned to write. President Roosevelt removed
Ambassador Kennedy as Ambassador to the Court of St. James in
London for circulating what Neville Chamberlain told Ambassador
Kennedy in London in 1938.

              ...Neville Chamberlain told him that the United
States and Talmudist Jews throughout the world [were forcing]
Great Britain into... war. Chamberlain also told Ambassador
Kennedy in 1938 that Great Britain had nothing with which to
fight Germany, [and] that Great Britain should not risk going to
war against Germany....

              President Roosevelt recalled Ambassador Kennedy to
silence him. Ambassador Kennedy planned... to write a book
telling what he knew.... President Roosevelt sent for Ambassador
Kennedy upon his return to the United States.... [He] told...
Kennedy he had heard Ambassador Kennedy was planning to write a
book which he asked him not to do.

              After Ambassador Kennedy's unpleasant meeting with
President Roosevelt in Washington, after his recall from London
for daring to circulate what Chamberlain had told him about
Talmudist Jews, Ambassador Kennedy's ambition in life was to see
one of his sons in the White House as President of the United
States.

              The story of how President Lyndon Baines Johnson
lied the United States in the desperate predicament in which the
United States today finds itself in the Middle East is not a long
story. It commences with a telephone call to this author in New
York from Congressman Ed Gosset in Washington to come there at
once. Congressman Gosset represented Amarillo, Texas in the House
of Representatives.

              Congressman Gosset was alarmed that the Senate
Armed Services Committee the day before confirmed the appointment
of Anna M. Rosenberg as Assistant Secretary of Defense without a
public hearing....

              Congressman Gosset took this author to Senator
Johnson's office and explained to him the reason for the visit.
Senator Johnson was a member of the Senate Armed Services
Committee.... Senator Johnson was very much interested in
learning about Anna Rosenberg's associations with communists.

              Senator Johnson asked this author if he would
assist him in looking into the matter further by producing a
communist who knew Anna Rosenberg. Upon this author's return to
New York that day, he mentioned Senator Johnson's request to his
attorney, Mr. Hallam Richardson. Within a few hours, Mr.
Richardson produced Mr. Ralph de Sola, a prominent Communist, the
head of film photography of documents by communist organizations
in the United States.

              ...In this author's meetings with Senator Johnson,
this author had the occasion to discuss the Palestine question
with him. Senator Johnson was very interested in the Palestine
question. That subject was of great interest to the Senate Armed
Services Committee....

              As President of the United States, President
Johnson was aware of the possibility of armed conflict in the
Middle East in which the United States might become involved.
President Johnson understood the power Talmudist Jews exerted in
the United States and in the United Nations. One of his closest
friends in Washington was Mr. Abe Fortas, a prominent Zionist,
whom President Johnson appointed to the Supreme Court.

              President Johnson knew he was violating the letter
and spirit of his oath of office as the President of all the
people of the United States when he filled the pipelines of the
State of Israel with munitions of war paid for with the money of
....taxpayers in the United States. President Johnson cannot plead
ignorance of the facts. Through a very close mutual friend, this
author kept President Johnson constantly informed on developments
in the Middle East.

              ...President Johnson now seeks to justify his
generosity with United States taxpayers' money by referring to a
commitment. President Johnson knows that he is in error. The only
commitment the taxpayers in the United States recognize is
President Johnson's commitment to serve the best interests of the
grass roots population of the United States.

              President Nixon is as guilty as the other six
masters of deception who lied the United States into the
desperate predicament in which the United States today finds
itself in the Middle East. President Nixon is both an eminent
lawyer and President of the United States.

              President Nixon cannot produce any evidence of a
legitimate commitment to anyone to support President Nixon's
generous use of United States taxpayers' money for financing the
permanent possession by thieves of their stolen loot. Does
President Nixon mean the commitment by political leaders to the
Talmudist Jews in the United States who control the media for
mass information?

              President Nixon belittles himself as well as the
United States administration for whom he speaks when he talks
about a commitment of the United States to underwrite the
perpetual possession of the illegal and immoral theft of
Palestine by Talmudist Jews. President Nixon's generosity has
reached epidemic proportions. Each of the additional five hundred
million dollars of United States taxpayers' money President Nixon
donates to the so-called State of Israel are that many more nails
in the coffin of the United States.

              These seven masters of deception mock the
elementary and equitable principles upon which the United States
was founded when they throw hard-earned United States taxpayers'
dollars by the billions to criminals in possession of their
stolen loot as if it were stage money. Have they no shame or
conscience?

              This author has had the patience and the time to
inform seven Presidents of the United States about the underlying
reason for  Middle East aggression by the Talmudist Jews
throughout the world. These seven masters of deception were all
briefed by this author on the reason for the aggression in
Palestine. This author spent a small fortune acquainting members
of Congress and political and industrial leaders in the United
States with all these facts, supplying them with photostat
reproductions of documentary evidence to support every statement
made by this author.

              If the Talmudist Jews of the world say they are
willing to see another world war fought to establish God's chosen
people in their promised land to rule the world from Palestine,
then it is time to tell the grass roots of the United States
population what all the excitement is about. This issue must be
dragged into the light for the grass roots of the population of
the United States to see why they are expected to die in a
nuclear war with a smile on their face.

              The time is growing late.... This author pleads
with readers of this manuscript to purchase as many copies as
their means will permit, to be circulated by them where they
believe this information is needed and necessary. Sacrifice some
little luxury, or even a necessity to purchase as many copies as
possible. The truth contained in this manuscript can save America
and the world. Let the readers resolve to put [this information]
in the hands of every knowledgeable person of his acquaintance.

You have been listening to Jewish author Benjamin Freedman's
manuscript The Hidden Tyranny, an expose of the covert power
behind the facade of seven  Presidents and administrations in
this country.

end of transcript of radio broadcast based on Benjamin H. Freedman's _The 
Hidden Tyranny_.
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O.K., friends, there is your insider.

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Eugene Holman wrote:
> ...
> 
> Funny that Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky, the son of Volf Isaakovich
> Edelstein (1907-1946), of Polish Jewish extraction, and registered as
> Vladimir Volfovich Edelstein untl he was 18 years old, should be ranting
> about the international Zionist conspiracy. In 1983 Zhirinovsky actually
> received an invitation to Israel and considered emigrating there. (Source:
> Vladimir Soloyov and Elena Klepikova: Zhirinovskyj: Paradoksy russkogo
> fashizma, 1994, transquoted from pg. 407 of the Finnish translation.)
> 

Oh, Eugene... It really isn't so strange at all. After all, Benjamin H. 
Freedman, who was certainly of Jewish extraction, talked a great deal 
about Zionist conspiring after he defected.

Do a Deja News search on "An Insider Speaks" for his _The Hidden 
Tyranny_, and access

 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/america/

and select the article on Freedman for his speech at the Willard Hotel in 
Washington, DC, on behalf of Conde McGinley's newspaper _Common Sense_.

And have you read Alfred Lilienthal on Zionism?

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William R. Discipio Jr wrote:
> 
> tim decker ("decklap"@tezcat.com) wrote:
> 
> : Well since you just "happen" to have *one* JBS book then you can
> : direct me to the primary source documentation therein that
> : supports these specific claims:
> 
> : Eisenhower was a communist dupe
> : As was Nixon
> : As was JFK
> : As was Earl Warren
> : Existence of the Insiders
> : Their responsibility for starting WW1
> : Civil-rights movement is a communist plot.
> 
> : If you just want to show-off some footnotes then by all
> : means continue.  Unless you are able to INCORPORATE them
> : into the discussion then they mean less than nothing.
> 
> What a moron you are Timmy Decker.  You can filibuster to your heart's
> content, but when you are presented with citations, you get all hot and
> bothered.
> 
> : BTW.  Make damn sure you understand what primary sources are
> : before you waste any more of your time.
> 
> Rant and rave...
> 
> : td

Well, Decker wants documentation from an insider. I think Benjamin 
Freedman qualifies as an insider who decided to become a whistle-blower.

Neither he nor I are or were members of the John Birch Society, and speak 
only for ourselves. Freedman passed away in the 70s, so direct all 
screaming at me, Mr. Decker.

Here are Freedman's words:
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The Hidden Tyranny Revealed

A transcript of three AMERICAN DISSIDENT VOICES radio programs.
For further information, write National Vanguard Books, Box 330,
Hillsboro WV 24946 USA


      Program of 15th October, 1994

Today I am going to introduce to you a man whose insights and
revelations are of the highest importance to the future of our
nation and people, a man who is reviled and hated by the enemies
of America, and a man who for over half a century was at the very
center of the hidden power which created Communism and which now
misrules the United States.

Benjamin H. Freedman was born in 1890, and, by an ironic twist of
fate, the delivering physician at his birth was Dr. Simon Baruch,
the father of arch-conspirator against America, Wall Street
speculator, and advisor and handler of U.S. Presidents from World
War I to 1965, Mr. Bernard M. Baruch. In Mr. Freedman's own
words, writing during the years of the Nixon administration:

             " Mr. Bernard Baruch  was a good friend of this
author's family and would very often consult this author.... [I]
have been in a position since 1912 to witness what was going on
behind the scenes. This author served on the National Democratic
Committee in the 1912 campaign that elected President Wilson to
his first term. No doors have been closed to this author since
then."

Benjamin Freedman was raised in a Jewish family and brought up in
the Jewish religion. He lived in New York City, and was a wealthy
and very successful businessman, eventually becoming the
principal owner of the Woodbury Soap Company. He was a witness to
and to some extent a participant in the political and financial
manipulations that resulted in the rise of Communism, the
establishment of Israel as a Zionist state, and the Jewish
domination of American politics and American media. As an agent
of Jewish interests, he had access to and interviewed at length
seven presidents of the United States.

After the end of the War to Impose the New World Order in 1945,
Mr. Freedman became convinced that he had a responsibility to
speak out. He had been an agent of, and privy to the councils of,
the Judaeo-Communist apparatus which was at that time about to
launch two of its greatest projects: the creation of a one-world
government under the name United Nations, and the establishment
of Israel as a Zionist state over the dead bodies of thousands of
Palestinians. He had been concerned over the increasing power of
his co-religionists, and their irresponsible use of that power,
for some time. He broke with Judaism and became a convert to
Catholicism.

His scholarship and research in the field of Jewish origins led
him to believe that the popular conceptions about Jews and
Judaism were so manifestly false that the words themselves should
be rejected. In his writings you will often find him referring to
so-called or self-styled Jews or to Talmudists, meaning the
followers of the Talmud, a holy book of modern Judaism.

In 1946 he founded the League for Peace and Justice in Palestine.
Arnold Forster, a high official of the Anti-Defamation League of
B'nai B'rith or ADL, in his 1988 autobiography Square One, called
Benjamin Freedman "an affluent, apostate, self-hating Jew." The
magazine Commentary (published by the American Jewish Committee)
for February, 1955, referred to him as "Jewish anti-Semite
Benjamin Freedman." Freedman himself stated in 1954:

             " The word anti-Semitism is another word which
should be eliminated from the English language. [The word] anti-
Semitism serves only one purpose today. It is used as a smear
word. When so-called or self-styled Jews feel that anyone opposes
any of their objectives they discredit their victims by applying
the word anti-Semite or anti-Semitic through all the channels
they have at their command and under their control. I can speak
with great authority on that subject. Because so-called or self-
styled Jews were unable to disprove my public statements in 1946
with regard to the situation in Palestine, they spent millions of
dollars to smear me as an anti-Semite hoping thereby to discredit
me in the eyes of the public who were very much interested in
what I had to say. Until 1946 I was a little saint to all so-
called or self-styled Jews. When I disagreed with them publicly
on the Zionist intentions in Palestine I became suddenly Anti-
Semite No. 1."

Benjamin H. Freedman was in truth a defector from the forces
which have been working to destroy our Republic and our
civilization. Let us see what he had to say. Today we will be
exploring Mr. Freedman's amazing book The Hidden Tyranny,
published in the early 1970s. The following are the words of Mr.
Freedman:

              The names of Presidents Woodrow Wilson, Franklin D.
Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman, Dwight D. Eisenhower, John F.
Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon will certainly be
found one day inscribed in big red letters in the official annals
of the rise and fall of the United States. These seven masters of
deception incurred their guilt by debasing their solemn oaths of
office on behalf of undisclosed domestic and foreign principals
without any apparent qualms or misgivings, to enhance their
political fortunes totally oblivious to the threat to United
States security and survival.

              ...The disclosures which follow here are now
revealed for the first time anywhere. They now expose for the
first time to the grass roots population of the United States the
secret un-American, non-American, and anti-American strategy to
which these seven masters of deception knowingly subscribed.

              ...Very early in their political careers, these
seven masters of deception... acquired their proficient skill in
detecting on which side their political bread was buttered.
....Throughout their political careers [they] demonstrated that
political shrewdness invariably identified with the immoral dogma
of 20th century politicians who preach and practice any means
justifies all ends. Accordingly, future grass roots populations
of the United States will one day find inscribed in the history
of the rise and fall of the United States the verdict that the
means ...advocated by these seven masters of deception were
primarily responsible for the end of the United States.

              It is today a well recognized fact of life in
political circles in the United States that the censorship
exercised by Zionists over the media for mass information
constitutes a virtual monopoly. It is likewise today a well
recognized fact of life in political circles in the United States
since President Wilson won his first election in 1912 as
President of the United States, that elections in the United
States are seldom won or lost today based upon the candidates'
qualification for office. Elections in the United States since
1912 are won or lost on the battlefields of the media for mass
information....

              Zionist ownership of media for mass communication,
or by Zionist control exercised by some devious corporate device,
in effect and in fact censors the news and editorial policies of
all the leading daily and Sunday newspapers, all the weekly and
monthly news magazines, all leading radio and television stations
and networks, the entire motion picture industry, the entire
entertainment world and the entire book publishing industry, in
effect and in fact the entire complex of media for mass
information in the United States, truly a brainwashing monopoly.

              As a result of that condition in the United States,
for approximately the past fifty years the grass roots population
of the United States has only read, heard and seen what passed
Zionist censorship and best served Zionist objectives....

              The Zionist-ruled media for mass information in the
United States never informed the grass roots population... how
and why President Woodrow Wilson lied the United States into the
desperate predicament in which the United States now finds itself
in the Middle East.

              ...The United States declared war against Germany
on April 6, 1917. On April 2, 1917, President Wilson addressed
both houses of Congress and pleaded with them to declare war
against Germany. President Wilson's appeal to Congress... was
primarily President Wilson's liquidation of his obligation to his
blackmailers. The following incontestable facts confirm that
conclusion beyond all question of any doubt.

              President Wilson's hand trembled as he read his
address. The members of Congress present had no reason to suspect
why President Wilson's hand trembled. ...By the time President
Wilson finished reading his appeal to Congress, many of his
listeners were in tears but not for the reason the grass roots
population of the United States today will be in tears when they
finish reading this manuscript.

              ...Congress only declared war against Germany
because President Wilson informed Congress that a German
submarine had sunk the S.S. Sussex in the English channel in
violation of international law and that United States citizens
aboard the S.S. Sussex had perished with the ship.

              After General Pershing's troops were fighting in
Europe, the hoax was exposed. ...The S.S. Sussex had not been
sunk and no United States citizens had lost their lives. The
United States was now at war in Europe as Great Britain's ally.
That is what Great Britain and the Talmudist Jews of the world
conspired to achieve in their crooked diplomatic underworld.

              The discovery of the hoax by the British Navy
shocked many honorable Englishmen. ...The S.S. Sussex was
available for anyone to visit who might care to do so to see the
S.S. Sussex for themselves with their own eyes. In that war the
United States mobilized 4,734,991 men to serve in the armed
forces, of whom 115,516 were killed and 202,002 were either
injured or maimed for life.

              This author crossed the English Channel many times
on the S.S. Sussex. The alleged sinking of the S.S. Sussex was
the figment of an over-worked Zionist imagination.

              Shortly after President Wilson's first
inauguration, President Wilson received a visitor in the White
House by [the name of] Mr. Samuel Untermeyer. Mr. Untermeyer was
a prominent New York City attorney who contributed generously to
the National Democratic Committee that installed President Wilson
in the White House....

              Mr. Untermeyer surprised President Wilson when he
finally stated what brought him to the White House. Mr.
Untermeyer informed President Wilson that he had been retained to
bring a breach of promise action against President Wilson. Mr.
Untermeyer informed President Wilson that his client was willing
to accept $40,000 in lieu of commencing the breach of promise
action. Mr. Untermeyer's client was the former wife of a
professor at Princeton University at the same time President
Wilson was a professor at Princeton University.

          Mr. Untermeyer produced a packet of letters from his
pocket, written by President Wilson to his colleague's wife when
they were neighbors at Princeton University. These letters
established the illicit relationship which had existed between
President Wilson and the wife of his colleague neighbor.
President Wilson had written many endearing letters to the wife
of his colleague, many of which she never destroyed. President
Wilson acknowledged his authorship of the letters after examining
a few of them.

              President Wilson left Princeton University to
become the Governor of New Jersey. In 1912 President Wilson was
elected to his first term as President of the United States. In
the interim, President Wilson's former sweetheart had divorced
her husband and married again. Her second husband resided in
Washington with a grown son who was in the employ of one of the
leading banks in Washington.

              Mr. Untermeyer explained to President Wilson that
his former sweetheart was very fond of her husband's son. Mr.
Untermeyer explained that this son was in financial trouble. This
son suddenly needed $40,000, as he told the story, to liquidate a
pressing liability to the bank for which he worked. The details
are not relevant here except that the son needed the $40,000
badly and he needed it quickly. President Wilson's former
sweetheart thought that President Wilson was the logical prospect
for that $40,000 to help her husband's son.

              ...President Wilson expressed himself as very
fortunate that his former sweetheart went to Mr. Untermeyer to
seek his assistance. The publicity could have proved very
embarrassing to President Wilson if his former sweetheart had
instead consulted a Republican attorney.

              President Wilson quickly set Mr. Untermeyer's mind
at rest by informing Mr. Untermeyer that he did not have $40,000
available for any purpose. Mr. Untermeyer suggested that
President Wilson should think the matter over....

              Mr. Untermeyer returned to President Wilson a few
days later as they had agreed. President Wilson did not hesitate
to inform Mr. Untermeyer that he did not have the $40,000 to pay
his blackmailer. President Wilson appeared irritated. Mr.
Untermeyer considered the matter a few moments and then
volunteered a solution to President Wilson for his problem.

              Mr. Untermeyer volunteered to give President
Wilson's former sweetheart the $40,000 out of his own pocket on
one condition. Mr. Untermeyer's condition was that President
Wilson promise Mr. Untermeyer to appoint to the first vacancy on
the United States Supreme Court a nominee to be recommended to
President Wilson by Mr. Untermeyer.

              Without further talk, President Wilson accepted Mr.
Untermeyer's generous offer. Mr. Untermeyer promptly paid $40,000
in currency to President Wilson's former sweetheart. The
contemplated breach of promise suit was never heard of after
that. Mr. Untermeyer retained in his possession permanently the
packet of letters.... President Wilson was most grateful to Mr.
Untermeyer for everything he was doing to solve his problem.

              Mr. Untermeyer was a man of great wealth. The law
firm in New York of which Mr. Untermeyer was the leading partner,
Messrs. Guggenheim, Untermeyer, and Marshall, is still today one
of the nation's most prominent and prosperous law firms. Mr.
Untermeyer organized the Bethlehem Steel Company for his friend
Mr. Charles M. Schwab.

              ...Mr. Untermeyer paid $40,000 ...out of his own
pocket in the hope it might bring to pass a dream close to his
heart, a Talmudist Jew on the United States Supreme Court where
none ever served.

              The day soon arrived when President Wilson was
presented with the necessity of appointing a new member of the
United States Supreme Court. Mr. Untermeyer recommended Louis
Dembitz Brandeis for the vacancy. President Wilson immediately
appointed him.... President Wilson and Justice Brandeis became
unusually intimate friends. Justice Brandeis knew the
circumstances of his appointment by President Wilson....

              In 1914 Justice Brandeis was the most prominent and
most politically influential of all Zionists in the United
States.

              ...Justice Brandeis volunteered his opinion to
President Wilson that the sinking of the S.S. Sussex by a German
submarine in the English channel with the loss of lives of United
States citizens justified the declaration of war against Germany
by the United States. Relying to a great extent upon the legal
opinion of Justice Brandeis, President Wilson... appealed to
Congress to declare war against Germany and they did on April 6,
1917.

              The declaration of war against Germany by the
United States guaranteed [to] the Talmudist Jews throughout the
world that Palestine was to be turned over to them upon the
defeat of Germany. The defeat of Germany was certain if the
United States could be railroaded into the war in Europe as Great
Britain's ally.

              Prior to the October 1916 London Agreement,
Talmudist Jews throughout the world were pro-German. The German
Emancipation Edict of 1822 guaranteed Talmudist Jews in Germany
all civil rights enjoyed by Germans. ...Germany was the only
country in Europe which did not place restrictions on Talmudist
Jews....

              Talmudist Jews throughout the world were informed
by cable from London about the October 1916 London Agreement.
That information transformed Talmudist Jews throughout the world
>from  pro-German to pro-British. Great Britain placed at the
disposal of Talmudist Jews in London their secret codes and
worldwide cable facilities to inform Talmudist Jews throughout
the world about Great Britain's pledge to turn over Palestine to
them as compensation for railroading the United States into the
war in Europe as Great Britain's ally....

              On April 6, 1917, President Wilson and Justice
Brandeis knew something the grass roots population of the United
States did not know. [They] knew the declaration of war by the
United States against Germany discharged President Wilson from
his obligation to his blackmailers....

              There was seldom any address made to Congress that
stirred the people of the United States and the world, as
President Wilson's April 2, 1917, plea to Congress to declare war
against Germany. President Wilson was aware when he addressed
Congress that Germany had not committed any act against the
United States which justified a declaration of war.... This
author at that time knew President Wilson was informed to that
effect before President Wilson made his plea to Congress....


      Program of 22d October, 1994


              In referring to the declaration of war against
Germany by the United States, Sir Winston Churchill said in an
interview with a prominent editor published in Scribner's
Commentator in 1936....

              "America should have minded her own business and
stayed out of the World War. If you hadn't entered the war the
Allies would have made peace with Germany in the Spring of 1917."

              Germany's peace offer to Great Britain asked for
neither indemnities nor reparations. Germany offered to restore
the territorial status and political independence of every
country with whom Great Britain was at war, as they existed in
August 1914 when the war in Europe started. Germany demanded no
benefits.

              Germany's October 1916 peace offer was on the table
before the British War Cabinet. Germany's... peace offer needed
only one signature to end the war. Great Britain would have
quickly accepted... if the World Zionist Organization had not
interfered.....

              When the British War Cabinet decided to accept
Germany's October 1916 peace offer, the World Zionist
Organization offered to railroad the United States into the war
in Europe as Great Britain's ally if Great Britain promised the
Talmudist Jews of the world Palestine as compensation after
Germany's defeat....

              Talmudist Jew pressure in London and Talmudist Jew
pressure in New York prevailed. President Wilson had little
choice in the matter it seemed. President Wilson was the captive
of circumstances in his early life that could not be altered.
President Wilson's April 2, 1917, address to Congress was about
to decide the fate of the world.

              ...Germans regarded [these activities] as a double-
cross by Talmudist Jews....

              Talmudist Jews promise[d the] Germans victory, then
stab[bed] them in the back....

              The Kaiser provided the World Zionist Organization
with the offices for their world headquarters in Berlin. The
Kaiser, his family, and government officials were constantly
extending assistance to Theodor Herzl [Note: Theodor Herzl, 1860-
1904, was the founder of modern Zionism and the leader of the
World Zionist Organization.  --   Ed.]. Germany extended
opportunities to Talmudist Jews not available in other European
countries. The Kaiser himself arranged the personal meeting
between the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire and Theodor Herzl.

              Bleichroder and Company in Berlin were the private
bankers of the Kaiser's family for generations. They were
Talmudist Jews. Warburg and Company of Hamburg were the world's
largest merchant bankers. They were Talmudist Jews. The head of
the German General Electric Company, then the world's largest
industrial enterprise, was a Talmudist Jew.

              The attitude of Germans toward Talmudist Jews in
Germany and throughout the world worsened much after the October
1916 stab in the back....

              Talmudist Jews throughout the world made bad
matters worse on August 7, 1933, when [they] declared their holy
war to destroy the German nation by destroying their export trade
upon which their very existence depends. Under the leadership of
Mr. Samuel Untermeyer, Talmudist Jews of the world declared a
boycott on all German goods and services. They asked their
Christian friends to join their worldwide boycott....

              Mr. Samuel Untermeyer arranged for the
International Boycott Conference in Amsterdam in July 1933. Mr.
Untermeyer was elected there the president of the World Jewish
Economic Federation.....

              The New York Times of August 7, 1933, published the
Talmudist Jews' declaration of their holy war against Germany in
a three-column report of Mr. Untermeyer's address to the nation
>from  Columbia Broadcasting Company's studio on the night of his
arrival home from Europe. Mr. Untermeyer among other things
stated:

             " [The] holy war in which we are embarked... is a
war which must be waged unremittingly....

            " ...the Jews are the aristocrats of the world....

              "...[This] economic boycott against all German
goods, shipping, and services... is our only really effective
weapon... [to] bring the German people to their senses by
destroying their export trade on which their very existence
depends... we shall force them to learn... we will drive the last
nail in the coffin...."

              This statement was made on August 7, 1933, when not
a hair on the head of a Talmudist Jew in all Germany had been
touched. Germany was plunged into a depression difficult to
describe in a few words, Germany's export business suddenly
ending as if by magic. Talmudist Jews hoped [in] that way to stop
Germans from continuing to talk about why they lost the war.

              The eminent Rabbi Maurice L. Perlman, head of the
British section of the World Jewish Congress, stated to a
Canadian audience as reported by the Toronto Evening Telegram of
February 26, 1940, that The World Jewish Congress has been at war
with Germany for seven years.

              President Roosevelt was a captive of the Talmudist
Jews from the time he went to Albany as Governor of the State of
New York. ...President Roosevelt railroaded the United States
into the Second World War.

              Germany and Poland had agreed upon a formula giving
Germany access across the Danzig Corridor. President Wilson in
1919 created the Danzig Corridor which separated Germany into two
halves... separated by a strip of German territory granted to
Poland ...in order to keep Germany weak... at the instigation of
Talmudist Jews at the Versailles Peace Conference....

              Crossing the Danzig Corridor from western Germany
to eastern Germany or vice versa was like traveling from one
country to another country. [Due to] the inconveniences, the
delays and annoyances, Germany and Poland had finally worked out
their acceptable arrangement that eliminated a majority of German
objections to the Danzig Corridor. Germany and Poland reached a
basis that would serve to prevent Germany's resort to more
aggressive action.

              Adolf Hitler was the head of the German government
at the time. Talmudist Jews throughout the world opposed the
peaceful adjustment between Germany and Poland of the Danzig
Corridor situation. Unrestricted access of traffic between the
western half and eastern half of Germany would soon make Germany
again the most powerful country in the world. Talmudist Jews
throughout the world dreaded the thought.

              Shortly before the agreement with Germany was to be
signed, Poland secretly signed a treaty with Great Britain dated
August 25, 1939. Great Britain agreed in that treaty to hasten to
the military assistance of Poland ...if Poland were attacked by
Germany. With that assurance from Great Britain, Poland broke off
negotiations with Germany. Germany did not understand the reason
for Poland's sudden change of mind and decided to proceed with
the terms of arrangement agreed upon with Poland. That was the
start of World War II.

              Great Britain knowingly deceived Poland when [they]
promised military assistance.... Great Britain could not come to
Poland's assistance and Great Britain knew it when [the] offer of
military assistance... was made.

              Poland's unexplained discontinuance of negotiations
with Germany to complete the Danzig Corridor agreement resulted
in Germany's troops moving into the Danzig Corridor without an
agreement with Poland. Great Britain knew exactly what would take
place in that event, that it would mean the beginning of World
War II. The rest is history. Talmudist Jews of the world welcomed
a war against Germany in 1939....

              President Roosevelt tried his hardest in 1939 to
railroad the United States into the war in Europe to accommodate
Talmudist Jews in the United States. Germany learned by
experience in World War I that the entry of the United States
into the war in Europe in 1939 could prove equally disastrous to
Germany.... Germany exercised extraordinary caution not to
provide the United States with justification under international
law to declare war against Germany. That situation presented
President Roosevelt with a problem.

              President Roosevelt decided if it were impossible
for him to get into the war in Europe through the front door that
he would railroad the United States into the war in Europe
through the back door. Through the back door meant through Japan.

              ...Germany and Japan had a treaty under which if
either Germany or Japan were attacked by a third power, the
country which was not attacked by the third power automatically
is at war with that third power. President Roosevelt planned to
provoke Japan so Japan would attack the United States. Japan in
December 1941 attacked Pearl Harbor. The United States
immediately declared war against Japan and automatically was at
war with Germany.

              The personal diary of the Honorable Mr. Henry L.
Stimson and all his papers are in Yale University library. Mr.
Stimson each day entered in his personal diary in his own
handwriting the important events in his life that day. Mr.
Stimson was President Roosevelt's Secretary of War. Mr. Stimson's
diary was introduced as evidence in the United States Senate
investigation of the Pearl Harbor attack by Japan over the strong
objections of friends of President Roosevelt.

              Mr. Stimson entered in his diary on November 25,
1941, two weeks before Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor, that at a
meeting with President Roosevelt and his Cabinet that morning at
the White House, President Roosevelt told those present that he
wished to be at war against Japan but that he did not want it to
appear that the United States fired the first shot.

              ...President Roosevelt advised Japan they could
purchase no more steel scrap or oil from the United States. Japan
was in the midst of a war against China. Without scrap steel and
without oil Japan would be unable to continue that war. Japan was
totally dependent upon the United States for both steel scrap and
oil. ...President Roosevelt knowingly provoked Japan to attack
the United States.

              President Harry S. Truman made his great
contribution to the desperate predicament in which the United
States today finds itself in the Middle East when he recognized
as a sovereign state an armed uprising in Palestine by 800,000
armed aliens transplanted into Palestine in a conspiracy
organized by Talmudist Jews throughout the world. President
Truman in 1946 suffered from a pathological obsession that he
must be elected President of the United States in 1948 on his own
account.

              Mr. Clark M. Clifford [Note:  Clark M. Clifford,
1907- , attorney (Clifford and Warnke) and tired old
establishment war horse, was the architect of Truman's 1948
campaign and himself a strong advocate of recognizing Israel. He
also co-wrote the National Security Act, which created the
Central Intelligence Agency; organized the transition between the
Eisenhower and Kennedy administrations; and, until succeeded by
Nicholas Katzenbach in 1991, was chairman of First American
Bankshares, which had links to the infamous Bank of Credit and
Commerce International (BCCI). He defended BCCI twice; in 1978
against the SEC regarding BCCI's takeover of Financial General
Bankshares; and in 1989 against drug-related money-laundering
charges in Florida. In the latter case, BCCI paid a $15 million
fine; Clifford's retainer was $45.3 million. On July 29, 1992,
Clifford was indicted on ten counts by a federal grand jury for
his involvement in the BCCI affair.  --   Ed.], Secretary of
Defense under President Lyndon B. Johnson, deserves a great deal
of credit for the recognition of the State of Israel on May 14,
1948, by the United States. Mr. Eliahu Epstein, the United States
representative of the Jewish Agency in Washington in 1948, told
the story in his three page article in the Jewish Chronicle of
London in its 10th Anniversary issue... celebrating the founding
of the State of Israel.

              Mr. Clifford undoubtedly was anxious to help
because President Truman had confided in his close friends that
he wished to recognize the Zionist state in the first hour of its
birth as he did. The State of Israel was officially proclaimed in
Tel Aviv at midnight on May 14, 1948. President Truman recognized
the State of Israel eleven minutes after midnight.

              President Truman finally advised this author that
he did not wish to carry on the discussion of the Zionist
question with him any further. He wrote to this author that he
had turned over the entire Palestine question to the Honorable
David Niles. Talmudist Jews were willing to carry out their part
of the bargain with President Truman.... Although the odds in
President Truman's election were 20 to 1 against his election,
President Truman romped home the winner over Governor Dewey
assisted by the invisible and invincible Zionist political steam-
roller that always elects their candidates.

              President Truman not only used the power and
prestige of the United States to compel the United Nations to
admit the State of Israel as a peace loving nation... but he made
billions of United States taxpayer dollars available to Talmudist
Jews to make the State of Israel powerful.

              When the day to vote for the admission of the State
of Israel arrived, they were short two votes.

              The plan was about to collapse. In the emergency
Mr. Charles H. Silver engaged Cardinal Spellman to make two trips
to South America to change their votes in the United Nations....

              The newspapers around the world on June 11, 1964,
published Mr. Silver's confession of a secret I have kept for
fifteen years. The secret Cardinal Spellman kept with Mr. Silver
was that Cardinal Spellman was sent to South America by Mr.
Silver on behalf of the Talmudist Jews in New York....

              This author was a close personal friend of Cardinal
Spellman for twenty-five years. Cardinal Spellman confessed to
this author several years ago that he felt he had committed an
irreparable sin by conspiring with the Talmudist Jews... to elect
the State of Israel as a member of the United Nations. In the
midst of that bloody fighting in the Middle East in June 1967,
Cardinal Spellman told this author when alone with him in his
study that he felt personally responsible for all the lives lost
in the 1967 invasion of the United Arab Republic and Syria by the
State of Israel.

      Program of 29th October, 1994

              The story of how President Dwight D. Eisenhower
lied the United States into the desperate predicament in which
the United States today finds itself in the Middle East is not a
complicated story. Talmudist Jews in the United States pressured
President Eisenhower into sponsoring... House Joint Resolution
117 on January 5, 1957. President Eisenhower knew less about what
he was then doing than a new born babe. It was pitiful for this
author to witness a great General being figuratively pushed
around by Talmudist Jews unfit to shine his shoes.

              President Eisenhower was always friendly towards
this author. This author met President Eisenhower when he was
being considered by Mr. Thomas M. Watson, Sr. as a Presidential
candidate on the Democratic ticket. Mr. Watson was the founder of
the International Business Machines Company. Mr. Watson told this
author at that time that he believed General Eisenhower as a
civilian would make a great president.

              As President of the United States, General
Eisenhower was faithful to [the] Talmudist Jew supporters whose
friendship he first cultivated in Europe during his political
activities in Germany after the end of World War II.... Talmudist
Jews knew that as President of the United States, General
Eisenhower in their hands would be like clay in the hands of the
potter.

              In 1956 it appeared that the Middle East countries
were undergoing changes in their governments. The Zionist illegal
occupation of Palestine still existed. Populations in Middle East
countries were growing restless. Talmudist Jews recognized that
something must be done to silence the unrest. President
Eisenhower obliged....

              Lebanon is the heart of Middle East political
activity. To nip action in the bud, by native populations aiming
to assert their independence from domination by Talmudist Jews,
Talmudist Jews arranged with President Eisenhower to occupy
Lebanon with 14,000 troops and to station the Sixth Fleet off the
coast. To make it legal Talmudist Jews had Congress pass a Joint
Resolution like the Tonkin Bay Resolution passed by Congress to
legalize the war in Viet Nam.

              Present Eisenhower... satisfied Talmudist Jews in
the United States at the expense of United States taxpayers.
President Eisenhower was warning the Middle East nations not to
attempt to regain Palestine from the Zionists....

              President Eisenhower... had a consortium of the
smartest Talmudist Jews in the State, Defense, and Justice
Departments prepare that Joint Resolution. The intent of [its]
unclear language is to conceal the purpose of the Joint
Resolution, not to explain its purpose. The purpose was to have a
Joint Resolution on record that would permit President Eisenhower
to use the United States armed forces and navy to aid and abet
the Zionist thieves to hold onto their stolen loot without any
necessity to ask Congress to declare war.

              Every word President Eisenhower uttered to defend
the crooks in occupation of Palestine was a lie which contributed
to the desperate predicament in which the United States today
finds itself.... Talmudist Jews in the United States were able to
camouflage their illegal aggression in the Middle East behind the
glamour of President Eisenhower's record as a great soldier.

              The story of how President John F. Kennedy lied the
United States into the desperate predicament in which the United
States today finds itself in the Middle East is very distressing.
President Kennedy's future was uncertain after digressing on
August 25, 1960, from the straight and narrow path he had
followed all his life.

              President Kennedy could not escape the consequences
of his betrayal of the high principles to which he aimed to
dedicate his life. President Kennedy surrendered to the lure of
Talmudist Jews who pledged to put him in the White House as the
President of the United States.

              On August 23, 1960, in the United States Senate
Office Building in Washington, President Kennedy, at that time a
Senator, gave this author a copy of the address he was to deliver
in New York City on August 25, 1960. In the copy of that address
which he gave this author... President Kennedy stated among other
things:

              "Israel is here to stay...[Israel] will endure and
flourish [and there is] a special obligation on the Democratic
Party.... It was President Truman who first recognized the new
State of Israel and gave it status in world affairs.... [It is]
my hope and my pledge to continue this Democratic tradition....
if the Democratic platform is to have any meaning the White House
must take the lead.... American intervention... will not now be
easy... I propose that we make it crystal clear... we will act
promptly and decisively.... ...our guarantee [is that] we will
act with whatever force and speed are necessary...."

              Senator Kennedy was giving Talmudist Jews his
pledge that as the President of the United States he would send
sons, husbands, and brothers of the grass roots population of the
United States to fight in Palestine... to aid and abet thieves
retain possession of their stolen plunder.

              This author met President Kennedy for the first
time in his father's office at 230 Park Avenue, in New York City,
on the day after he was elected for the first time as a
Congressman in November 1946. This author was in a conference
with Ambassador Joseph Kennedy and Judge Landis, an associate of
Ambassador Kennedy. In his private office they were consulting
this author on the Middle East situation which had recently taken
an ugly turn in the United Nations.

              Suddenly the door to the private office flew open
and in came the new Congressman. Congressman Kennedy was on his
way from Boston to Washington and burst into his father's office
bubbling with enthusiasm. Ambassador Kennedy introduced this
author to the new Congressman and advised his son that he would
do well to keep in touch with this author as a source of
information he would need soon on the Palestine question.

              Ambassador Kennedy discussed the subject matter for
a short while with those present. The Congressman then asked to
leave as he was catching a train for Washington. This author
invited the Congressman to lunch and he accepted. After lunch
Congressman Kennedy asked if this author had nothing else to do
than ride to Washington with him on the train. This author was
willing and rode to Washington with him.

              From that day in November 1946 to August 23, 1960,
this author saw the Congressman, and [later] Senator, countless
times at his office in Washington and New York City. This author
was happy to enlighten Senator Kennedy on the Palestine question.
Without a doubt there were soon few people in the world who were
better informed on this subject than Senator Kennedy.

              In the fourteen years this author had the honor of
enjoying the confidence of President Kennedy he never failed to
express his appreciation for this author's interest in his
career. President Kennedy also appreciated the friendship this
author demonstrated for his father, Ambassador Kennedy.
Ambassador Kennedy was blackmailed by President Roosevelt.
President Roosevelt told Ambassador Kennedy not to write the book
Ambassador Kennedy planned to write. President Roosevelt removed
Ambassador Kennedy as Ambassador to the Court of St. James in
London for circulating what Neville Chamberlain told Ambassador
Kennedy in London in 1938.

              ...Neville Chamberlain told him that the United
States and Talmudist Jews throughout the world [were forcing]
Great Britain into... war. Chamberlain also told Ambassador
Kennedy in 1938 that Great Britain had nothing with which to
fight Germany, [and] that Great Britain should not risk going to
war against Germany....

              President Roosevelt recalled Ambassador Kennedy to
silence him. Ambassador Kennedy planned... to write a book
telling what he knew.... President Roosevelt sent for Ambassador
Kennedy upon his return to the United States.... [He] told...
Kennedy he had heard Ambassador Kennedy was planning to write a
book which he asked him not to do.

              After Ambassador Kennedy's unpleasant meeting with
President Roosevelt in Washington, after his recall from London
for daring to circulate what Chamberlain had told him about
Talmudist Jews, Ambassador Kennedy's ambition in life was to see
one of his sons in the White House as President of the United
States.

              The story of how President Lyndon Baines Johnson
lied the United States in the desperate predicament in which the
United States today finds itself in the Middle East is not a long
story. It commences with a telephone call to this author in New
York from Congressman Ed Gosset in Washington to come there at
once. Congressman Gosset represented Amarillo, Texas in the House
of Representatives.

              Congressman Gosset was alarmed that the Senate
Armed Services Committee the day before confirmed the appointment
of Anna M. Rosenberg as Assistant Secretary of Defense without a
public hearing....

              Congressman Gosset took this author to Senator
Johnson's office and explained to him the reason for the visit.
Senator Johnson was a member of the Senate Armed Services
Committee.... Senator Johnson was very much interested in
learning about Anna Rosenberg's associations with communists.

              Senator Johnson asked this author if he would
assist him in looking into the matter further by producing a
communist who knew Anna Rosenberg. Upon this author's return to
New York that day, he mentioned Senator Johnson's request to his
attorney, Mr. Hallam Richardson. Within a few hours, Mr.
Richardson produced Mr. Ralph de Sola, a prominent Communist, the
head of film photography of documents by communist organizations
in the United States.

              ...In this author's meetings with Senator Johnson,
this author had the occasion to discuss the Palestine question
with him. Senator Johnson was very interested in the Palestine
question. That subject was of great interest to the Senate Armed
Services Committee....

              As President of the United States, President
Johnson was aware of the possibility of armed conflict in the
Middle East in which the United States might become involved.
President Johnson understood the power Talmudist Jews exerted in
the United States and in the United Nations. One of his closest
friends in Washington was Mr. Abe Fortas, a prominent Zionist,
whom President Johnson appointed to the Supreme Court.

              President Johnson knew he was violating the letter
and spirit of his oath of office as the President of all the
people of the United States when he filled the pipelines of the
State of Israel with munitions of war paid for with the money of
....taxpayers in the United States. President Johnson cannot plead
ignorance of the facts. Through a very close mutual friend, this
author kept President Johnson constantly informed on developments
in the Middle East.

              ...President Johnson now seeks to justify his
generosity with United States taxpayers' money by referring to a
commitment. President Johnson knows that he is in error. The only
commitment the taxpayers in the United States recognize is
President Johnson's commitment to serve the best interests of the
grass roots population of the United States.

              President Nixon is as guilty as the other six
masters of deception who lied the United States into the
desperate predicament in which the United States today finds
itself in the Middle East. President Nixon is both an eminent
lawyer and President of the United States.

              President Nixon cannot produce any evidence of a
legitimate commitment to anyone to support President Nixon's
generous use of United States taxpayers' money for financing the
permanent possession by thieves of their stolen loot. Does
President Nixon mean the commitment by political leaders to the
Talmudist Jews in the United States who control the media for
mass information?

              President Nixon belittles himself as well as the
United States administration for whom he speaks when he talks
about a commitment of the United States to underwrite the
perpetual possession of the illegal and immoral theft of
Palestine by Talmudist Jews. President Nixon's generosity has
reached epidemic proportions. Each of the additional five hundred
million dollars of United States taxpayers' money President Nixon
donates to the so-called State of Israel are that many more nails
in the coffin of the United States.

              These seven masters of deception mock the
elementary and equitable principles upon which the United States
was founded when they throw hard-earned United States taxpayers'
dollars by the billions to criminals in possession of their
stolen loot as if it were stage money. Have they no shame or
conscience?

              This author has had the patience and the time to
inform seven Presidents of the United States about the underlying
reason for  Middle East aggression by the Talmudist Jews
throughout the world. These seven masters of deception were all
briefed by this author on the reason for the aggression in
Palestine. This author spent a small fortune acquainting members
of Congress and political and industrial leaders in the United
States with all these facts, supplying them with photostat
reproductions of documentary evidence to support every statement
made by this author.

              If the Talmudist Jews of the world say they are
willing to see another world war fought to establish God's chosen
people in their promised land to rule the world from Palestine,
then it is time to tell the grass roots of the United States
population what all the excitement is about. This issue must be
dragged into the light for the grass roots of the population of
the United States to see why they are expected to die in a
nuclear war with a smile on their face.

              The time is growing late.... This author pleads
with readers of this manuscript to purchase as many copies as
their means will permit, to be circulated by them where they
believe this information is needed and necessary. Sacrifice some
little luxury, or even a necessity to purchase as many copies as
possible. The truth contained in this manuscript can save America
and the world. Let the readers resolve to put [this information]
in the hands of every knowledgeable person of his acquaintance.

You have been listening to Jewish author Benjamin Freedman's
manuscript The Hidden Tyranny, an expose of the covert power
behind the facade of seven  Presidents and administrations in
this country.

end of transcript of radio broadcast based on Benjamin H. Freedman's _The 
Hidden Tyranny_.
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All the best and happy Internetting,

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William R. Discipio Jr wrote:
> 
> tim decker ("decklap"@tezcat.com) wrote:
> 
> : Well since you just "happen" to have *one* JBS book then you can
> : direct me to the primary source documentation therein that
> : supports these specific claims:
> 
> : Eisenhower was a communist dupe
> : As was Nixon
> : As was JFK
> : As was Earl Warren
> : Existence of the Insiders
> : Their responsibility for starting WW1
> : Civil-rights movement is a communist plot.
> 
> : If you just want to show-off some footnotes then by all
> : means continue.  Unless you are able to INCORPORATE them
> : into the discussion then they mean less than nothing.
> 
> What a moron you are Timmy Decker.  You can filibuster to your heart's
> content, but when you are presented with citations, you get all hot and
> bothered.
> 
> : BTW.  Make damn sure you understand what primary sources are
> : before you waste any more of your time.
> 
> Rant and rave...
> 
> : td

Well, Decker wants documentation from an insider. I think Benjamin 
Freedman qualifies as an insider who decided to become a whistle-blower.

Neither he nor I are or were members of the John Birch Society, and speak 
only for ourselves. Freedman passed away in the 70s, so direct all 
screaming at me, Mr. Decker.

Here are Freedman's words:
--------------------------------------------------------------

The Hidden Tyranny Revealed

A transcript of three AMERICAN DISSIDENT VOICES radio programs.
For further information, write National Vanguard Books, Box 330,
Hillsboro WV 24946 USA


      Program of 15th October, 1994

Today I am going to introduce to you a man whose insights and
revelations are of the highest importance to the future of our
nation and people, a man who is reviled and hated by the enemies
of America, and a man who for over half a century was at the very
center of the hidden power which created Communism and which now
misrules the United States.

Benjamin H. Freedman was born in 1890, and, by an ironic twist of
fate, the delivering physician at his birth was Dr. Simon Baruch,
the father of arch-conspirator against America, Wall Street
speculator, and advisor and handler of U.S. Presidents from World
War I to 1965, Mr. Bernard M. Baruch. In Mr. Freedman's own
words, writing during the years of the Nixon administration:

             " Mr. Bernard Baruch  was a good friend of this
author's family and would very often consult this author.... [I]
have been in a position since 1912 to witness what was going on
behind the scenes. This author served on the National Democratic
Committee in the 1912 campaign that elected President Wilson to
his first term. No doors have been closed to this author since
then."

Benjamin Freedman was raised in a Jewish family and brought up in
the Jewish religion. He lived in New York City, and was a wealthy
and very successful businessman, eventually becoming the
principal owner of the Woodbury Soap Company. He was a witness to
and to some extent a participant in the political and financial
manipulations that resulted in the rise of Communism, the
establishment of Israel as a Zionist state, and the Jewish
domination of American politics and American media. As an agent
of Jewish interests, he had access to and interviewed at length
seven presidents of the United States.

After the end of the War to Impose the New World Order in 1945,
Mr. Freedman became convinced that he had a responsibility to
speak out. He had been an agent of, and privy to the councils of,
the Judaeo-Communist apparatus which was at that time about to
launch two of its greatest projects: the creation of a one-world
government under the name United Nations, and the establishment
of Israel as a Zionist state over the dead bodies of thousands of
Palestinians. He had been concerned over the increasing power of
his co-religionists, and their irresponsible use of that power,
for some time. He broke with Judaism and became a convert to
Catholicism.

His scholarship and research in the field of Jewish origins led
him to believe that the popular conceptions about Jews and
Judaism were so manifestly false that the words themselves should
be rejected. In his writings you will often find him referring to
so-called or self-styled Jews or to Talmudists, meaning the
followers of the Talmud, a holy book of modern Judaism.

In 1946 he founded the League for Peace and Justice in Palestine.
Arnold Forster, a high official of the Anti-Defamation League of
B'nai B'rith or ADL, in his 1988 autobiography Square One, called
Benjamin Freedman "an affluent, apostate, self-hating Jew." The
magazine Commentary (published by the American Jewish Committee)
for February, 1955, referred to him as "Jewish anti-Semite
Benjamin Freedman." Freedman himself stated in 1954:

             " The word anti-Semitism is another word which
should be eliminated from the English language. [The word] anti-
Semitism serves only one purpose today. It is used as a smear
word. When so-called or self-styled Jews feel that anyone opposes
any of their objectives they discredit their victims by applying
the word anti-Semite or anti-Semitic through all the channels
they have at their command and under their control. I can speak
with great authority on that subject. Because so-called or self-
styled Jews were unable to disprove my public statements in 1946
with regard to the situation in Palestine, they spent millions of
dollars to smear me as an anti-Semite hoping thereby to discredit
me in the eyes of the public who were very much interested in
what I had to say. Until 1946 I was a little saint to all so-
called or self-styled Jews. When I disagreed with them publicly
on the Zionist intentions in Palestine I became suddenly Anti-
Semite No. 1."

Benjamin H. Freedman was in truth a defector from the forces
which have been working to destroy our Republic and our
civilization. Let us see what he had to say. Today we will be
exploring Mr. Freedman's amazing book The Hidden Tyranny,
published in the early 1970s. The following are the words of Mr.
Freedman:

              The names of Presidents Woodrow Wilson, Franklin D.
Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman, Dwight D. Eisenhower, John F.
Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon will certainly be
found one day inscribed in big red letters in the official annals
of the rise and fall of the United States. These seven masters of
deception incurred their guilt by debasing their solemn oaths of
office on behalf of undisclosed domestic and foreign principals
without any apparent qualms or misgivings, to enhance their
political fortunes totally oblivious to the threat to United
States security and survival.

              ...The disclosures which follow here are now
revealed for the first time anywhere. They now expose for the
first time to the grass roots population of the United States the
secret un-American, non-American, and anti-American strategy to
which these seven masters of deception knowingly subscribed.

              ...Very early in their political careers, these
seven masters of deception... acquired their proficient skill in
detecting on which side their political bread was buttered.
....Throughout their political careers [they] demonstrated that
political shrewdness invariably identified with the immoral dogma
of 20th century politicians who preach and practice any means
justifies all ends. Accordingly, future grass roots populations
of the United States will one day find inscribed in the history
of the rise and fall of the United States the verdict that the
means ...advocated by these seven masters of deception were
primarily responsible for the end of the United States.

              It is today a well recognized fact of life in
political circles in the United States that the censorship
exercised by Zionists over the media for mass information
constitutes a virtual monopoly. It is likewise today a well
recognized fact of life in political circles in the United States
since President Wilson won his first election in 1912 as
President of the United States, that elections in the United
States are seldom won or lost today based upon the candidates'
qualification for office. Elections in the United States since
1912 are won or lost on the battlefields of the media for mass
information....

              Zionist ownership of media for mass communication,
or by Zionist control exercised by some devious corporate device,
in effect and in fact censors the news and editorial policies of
all the leading daily and Sunday newspapers, all the weekly and
monthly news magazines, all leading radio and television stations
and networks, the entire motion picture industry, the entire
entertainment world and the entire book publishing industry, in
effect and in fact the entire complex of media for mass
information in the United States, truly a brainwashing monopoly.

              As a result of that condition in the United States,
for approximately the past fifty years the grass roots population
of the United States has only read, heard and seen what passed
Zionist censorship and best served Zionist objectives....

              The Zionist-ruled media for mass information in the
United States never informed the grass roots population... how
and why President Woodrow Wilson lied the United States into the
desperate predicament in which the United States now finds itself
in the Middle East.

              ...The United States declared war against Germany
on April 6, 1917. On April 2, 1917, President Wilson addressed
both houses of Congress and pleaded with them to declare war
against Germany. President Wilson's appeal to Congress... was
primarily President Wilson's liquidation of his obligation to his
blackmailers. The following incontestable facts confirm that
conclusion beyond all question of any doubt.

              President Wilson's hand trembled as he read his
address. The members of Congress present had no reason to suspect
why President Wilson's hand trembled. ...By the time President
Wilson finished reading his appeal to Congress, many of his
listeners were in tears but not for the reason the grass roots
population of the United States today will be in tears when they
finish reading this manuscript.

              ...Congress only declared war against Germany
because President Wilson informed Congress that a German
submarine had sunk the S.S. Sussex in the English channel in
violation of international law and that United States citizens
aboard the S.S. Sussex had perished with the ship.

              After General Pershing's troops were fighting in
Europe, the hoax was exposed. ...The S.S. Sussex had not been
sunk and no United States citizens had lost their lives. The
United States was now at war in Europe as Great Britain's ally.
That is what Great Britain and the Talmudist Jews of the world
conspired to achieve in their crooked diplomatic underworld.

              The discovery of the hoax by the British Navy
shocked many honorable Englishmen. ...The S.S. Sussex was
available for anyone to visit who might care to do so to see the
S.S. Sussex for themselves with their own eyes. In that war the
United States mobilized 4,734,991 men to serve in the armed
forces, of whom 115,516 were killed and 202,002 were either
injured or maimed for life.

              This author crossed the English Channel many times
on the S.S. Sussex. The alleged sinking of the S.S. Sussex was
the figment of an over-worked Zionist imagination.

              Shortly after President Wilson's first
inauguration, President Wilson received a visitor in the White
House by [the name of] Mr. Samuel Untermeyer. Mr. Untermeyer was
a prominent New York City attorney who contributed generously to
the National Democratic Committee that installed President Wilson
in the White House....

              Mr. Untermeyer surprised President Wilson when he
finally stated what brought him to the White House. Mr.
Untermeyer informed President Wilson that he had been retained to
bring a breach of promise action against President Wilson. Mr.
Untermeyer informed President Wilson that his client was willing
to accept $40,000 in lieu of commencing the breach of promise
action. Mr. Untermeyer's client was the former wife of a
professor at Princeton University at the same time President
Wilson was a professor at Princeton University.

          Mr. Untermeyer produced a packet of letters from his
pocket, written by President Wilson to his colleague's wife when
they were neighbors at Princeton University. These letters
established the illicit relationship which had existed between
President Wilson and the wife of his colleague neighbor.
President Wilson had written many endearing letters to the wife
of his colleague, many of which she never destroyed. President
Wilson acknowledged his authorship of the letters after examining
a few of them.

              President Wilson left Princeton University to
become the Governor of New Jersey. In 1912 President Wilson was
elected to his first term as President of the United States. In
the interim, President Wilson's former sweetheart had divorced
her husband and married again. Her second husband resided in
Washington with a grown son who was in the employ of one of the
leading banks in Washington.

              Mr. Untermeyer explained to President Wilson that
his former sweetheart was very fond of her husband's son. Mr.
Untermeyer explained that this son was in financial trouble. This
son suddenly needed $40,000, as he told the story, to liquidate a
pressing liability to the bank for which he worked. The details
are not relevant here except that the son needed the $40,000
badly and he needed it quickly. President Wilson's former
sweetheart thought that President Wilson was the logical prospect
for that $40,000 to help her husband's son.

              ...President Wilson expressed himself as very
fortunate that his former sweetheart went to Mr. Untermeyer to
seek his assistance. The publicity could have proved very
embarrassing to President Wilson if his former sweetheart had
instead consulted a Republican attorney.

              President Wilson quickly set Mr. Untermeyer's mind
at rest by informing Mr. Untermeyer that he did not have $40,000
available for any purpose. Mr. Untermeyer suggested that
President Wilson should think the matter over....

              Mr. Untermeyer returned to President Wilson a few
days later as they had agreed. President Wilson did not hesitate
to inform Mr. Untermeyer that he did not have the $40,000 to pay
his blackmailer. President Wilson appeared irritated. Mr.
Untermeyer considered the matter a few moments and then
volunteered a solution to President Wilson for his problem.

              Mr. Untermeyer volunteered to give President
Wilson's former sweetheart the $40,000 out of his own pocket on
one condition. Mr. Untermeyer's condition was that President
Wilson promise Mr. Untermeyer to appoint to the first vacancy on
the United States Supreme Court a nominee to be recommended to
President Wilson by Mr. Untermeyer.

              Without further talk, President Wilson accepted Mr.
Untermeyer's generous offer. Mr. Untermeyer promptly paid $40,000
in currency to President Wilson's former sweetheart. The
contemplated breach of promise suit was never heard of after
that. Mr. Untermeyer retained in his possession permanently the
packet of letters.... President Wilson was most grateful to Mr.
Untermeyer for everything he was doing to solve his problem.

              Mr. Untermeyer was a man of great wealth. The law
firm in New York of which Mr. Untermeyer was the leading partner,
Messrs. Guggenheim, Untermeyer, and Marshall, is still today one
of the nation's most prominent and prosperous law firms. Mr.
Untermeyer organized the Bethlehem Steel Company for his friend
Mr. Charles M. Schwab.

              ...Mr. Untermeyer paid $40,000 ...out of his own
pocket in the hope it might bring to pass a dream close to his
heart, a Talmudist Jew on the United States Supreme Court where
none ever served.

              The day soon arrived when President Wilson was
presented with the necessity of appointing a new member of the
United States Supreme Court. Mr. Untermeyer recommended Louis
Dembitz Brandeis for the vacancy. President Wilson immediately
appointed him.... President Wilson and Justice Brandeis became
unusually intimate friends. Justice Brandeis knew the
circumstances of his appointment by President Wilson....

              In 1914 Justice Brandeis was the most prominent and
most politically influential of all Zionists in the United
States.

              ...Justice Brandeis volunteered his opinion to
President Wilson that the sinking of the S.S. Sussex by a German
submarine in the English channel with the loss of lives of United
States citizens justified the declaration of war against Germany
by the United States. Relying to a great extent upon the legal
opinion of Justice Brandeis, President Wilson... appealed to
Congress to declare war against Germany and they did on April 6,
1917.

              The declaration of war against Germany by the
United States guaranteed [to] the Talmudist Jews throughout the
world that Palestine was to be turned over to them upon the
defeat of Germany. The defeat of Germany was certain if the
United States could be railroaded into the war in Europe as Great
Britain's ally.

              Prior to the October 1916 London Agreement,
Talmudist Jews throughout the world were pro-German. The German
Emancipation Edict of 1822 guaranteed Talmudist Jews in Germany
all civil rights enjoyed by Germans. ...Germany was the only
country in Europe which did not place restrictions on Talmudist
Jews....

              Talmudist Jews throughout the world were informed
by cable from London about the October 1916 London Agreement.
That information transformed Talmudist Jews throughout the world
>from  pro-German to pro-British. Great Britain placed at the
disposal of Talmudist Jews in London their secret codes and
worldwide cable facilities to inform Talmudist Jews throughout
the world about Great Britain's pledge to turn over Palestine to
them as compensation for railroading the United States into the
war in Europe as Great Britain's ally....

              On April 6, 1917, President Wilson and Justice
Brandeis knew something the grass roots population of the United
States did not know. [They] knew the declaration of war by the
United States against Germany discharged President Wilson from
his obligation to his blackmailers....

              There was seldom any address made to Congress that
stirred the people of the United States and the world, as
President Wilson's April 2, 1917, plea to Congress to declare war
against Germany. President Wilson was aware when he addressed
Congress that Germany had not committed any act against the
United States which justified a declaration of war.... This
author at that time knew President Wilson was informed to that
effect before President Wilson made his plea to Congress....


      Program of 22d October, 1994


              In referring to the declaration of war against
Germany by the United States, Sir Winston Churchill said in an
interview with a prominent editor published in Scribner's
Commentator in 1936....

              "America should have minded her own business and
stayed out of the World War. If you hadn't entered the war the
Allies would have made peace with Germany in the Spring of 1917."

              Germany's peace offer to Great Britain asked for
neither indemnities nor reparations. Germany offered to restore
the territorial status and political independence of every
country with whom Great Britain was at war, as they existed in
August 1914 when the war in Europe started. Germany demanded no
benefits.

              Germany's October 1916 peace offer was on the table
before the British War Cabinet. Germany's... peace offer needed
only one signature to end the war. Great Britain would have
quickly accepted... if the World Zionist Organization had not
interfered.....

              When the British War Cabinet decided to accept
Germany's October 1916 peace offer, the World Zionist
Organization offered to railroad the United States into the war
in Europe as Great Britain's ally if Great Britain promised the
Talmudist Jews of the world Palestine as compensation after
Germany's defeat....

              Talmudist Jew pressure in London and Talmudist Jew
pressure in New York prevailed. President Wilson had little
choice in the matter it seemed. President Wilson was the captive
of circumstances in his early life that could not be altered.
President Wilson's April 2, 1917, address to Congress was about
to decide the fate of the world.

              ...Germans regarded [these activities] as a double-
cross by Talmudist Jews....

              Talmudist Jews promise[d the] Germans victory, then
stab[bed] them in the back....

              The Kaiser provided the World Zionist Organization
with the offices for their world headquarters in Berlin. The
Kaiser, his family, and government officials were constantly
extending assistance to Theodor Herzl [Note: Theodor Herzl, 1860-
1904, was the founder of modern Zionism and the leader of the
World Zionist Organization.  --   Ed.]. Germany extended
opportunities to Talmudist Jews not available in other European
countries. The Kaiser himself arranged the personal meeting
between the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire and Theodor Herzl.

              Bleichroder and Company in Berlin were the private
bankers of the Kaiser's family for generations. They were
Talmudist Jews. Warburg and Company of Hamburg were the world's
largest merchant bankers. They were Talmudist Jews. The head of
the German General Electric Company, then the world's largest
industrial enterprise, was a Talmudist Jew.

              The attitude of Germans toward Talmudist Jews in
Germany and throughout the world worsened much after the October
1916 stab in the back....

              Talmudist Jews throughout the world made bad
matters worse on August 7, 1933, when [they] declared their holy
war to destroy the German nation by destroying their export trade
upon which their very existence depends. Under the leadership of
Mr. Samuel Untermeyer, Talmudist Jews of the world declared a
boycott on all German goods and services. They asked their
Christian friends to join their worldwide boycott....

              Mr. Samuel Untermeyer arranged for the
International Boycott Conference in Amsterdam in July 1933. Mr.
Untermeyer was elected there the president of the World Jewish
Economic Federation.....

              The New York Times of August 7, 1933, published the
Talmudist Jews' declaration of their holy war against Germany in
a three-column report of Mr. Untermeyer's address to the nation
>from  Columbia Broadcasting Company's studio on the night of his
arrival home from Europe. Mr. Untermeyer among other things
stated:

             " [The] holy war in which we are embarked... is a
war which must be waged unremittingly....

            " ...the Jews are the aristocrats of the world....

              "...[This] economic boycott against all German
goods, shipping, and services... is our only really effective
weapon... [to] bring the German people to their senses by
destroying their export trade on which their very existence
depends... we shall force them to learn... we will drive the last
nail in the coffin...."

              This statement was made on August 7, 1933, when not
a hair on the head of a Talmudist Jew in all Germany had been
touched. Germany was plunged into a depression difficult to
describe in a few words, Germany's export business suddenly
ending as if by magic. Talmudist Jews hoped [in] that way to stop
Germans from continuing to talk about why they lost the war.

              The eminent Rabbi Maurice L. Perlman, head of the
British section of the World Jewish Congress, stated to a
Canadian audience as reported by the Toronto Evening Telegram of
February 26, 1940, that The World Jewish Congress has been at war
with Germany for seven years.

              President Roosevelt was a captive of the Talmudist
Jews from the time he went to Albany as Governor of the State of
New York. ...President Roosevelt railroaded the United States
into the Second World War.

              Germany and Poland had agreed upon a formula giving
Germany access across the Danzig Corridor. President Wilson in
1919 created the Danzig Corridor which separated Germany into two
halves... separated by a strip of German territory granted to
Poland ...in order to keep Germany weak... at the instigation of
Talmudist Jews at the Versailles Peace Conference....

              Crossing the Danzig Corridor from western Germany
to eastern Germany or vice versa was like traveling from one
country to another country. [Due to] the inconveniences, the
delays and annoyances, Germany and Poland had finally worked out
their acceptable arrangement that eliminated a majority of German
objections to the Danzig Corridor. Germany and Poland reached a
basis that would serve to prevent Germany's resort to more
aggressive action.

              Adolf Hitler was the head of the German government
at the time. Talmudist Jews throughout the world opposed the
peaceful adjustment between Germany and Poland of the Danzig
Corridor situation. Unrestricted access of traffic between the
western half and eastern half of Germany would soon make Germany
again the most powerful country in the world. Talmudist Jews
throughout the world dreaded the thought.

              Shortly before the agreement with Germany was to be
signed, Poland secretly signed a treaty with Great Britain dated
August 25, 1939. Great Britain agreed in that treaty to hasten to
the military assistance of Poland ...if Poland were attacked by
Germany. With that assurance from Great Britain, Poland broke off
negotiations with Germany. Germany did not understand the reason
for Poland's sudden change of mind and decided to proceed with
the terms of arrangement agreed upon with Poland. That was the
start of World War II.

              Great Britain knowingly deceived Poland when [they]
promised military assistance.... Great Britain could not come to
Poland's assistance and Great Britain knew it when [the] offer of
military assistance... was made.

              Poland's unexplained discontinuance of negotiations
with Germany to complete the Danzig Corridor agreement resulted
in Germany's troops moving into the Danzig Corridor without an
agreement with Poland. Great Britain knew exactly what would take
place in that event, that it would mean the beginning of World
War II. The rest is history. Talmudist Jews of the world welcomed
a war against Germany in 1939....

              President Roosevelt tried his hardest in 1939 to
railroad the United States into the war in Europe to accommodate
Talmudist Jews in the United States. Germany learned by
experience in World War I that the entry of the United States
into the war in Europe in 1939 could prove equally disastrous to
Germany.... Germany exercised extraordinary caution not to
provide the United States with justification under international
law to declare war against Germany. That situation presented
President Roosevelt with a problem.

              President Roosevelt decided if it were impossible
for him to get into the war in Europe through the front door that
he would railroad the United States into the war in Europe
through the back door. Through the back door meant through Japan.

              ...Germany and Japan had a treaty under which if
either Germany or Japan were attacked by a third power, the
country which was not attacked by the third power automatically
is at war with that third power. President Roosevelt planned to
provoke Japan so Japan would attack the United States. Japan in
December 1941 attacked Pearl Harbor. The United States
immediately declared war against Japan and automatically was at
war with Germany.

              The personal diary of the Honorable Mr. Henry L.
Stimson and all his papers are in Yale University library. Mr.
Stimson each day entered in his personal diary in his own
handwriting the important events in his life that day. Mr.
Stimson was President Roosevelt's Secretary of War. Mr. Stimson's
diary was introduced as evidence in the United States Senate
investigation of the Pearl Harbor attack by Japan over the strong
objections of friends of President Roosevelt.

              Mr. Stimson entered in his diary on November 25,
1941, two weeks before Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor, that at a
meeting with President Roosevelt and his Cabinet that morning at
the White House, President Roosevelt told those present that he
wished to be at war against Japan but that he did not want it to
appear that the United States fired the first shot.

              ...President Roosevelt advised Japan they could
purchase no more steel scrap or oil from the United States. Japan
was in the midst of a war against China. Without scrap steel and
without oil Japan would be unable to continue that war. Japan was
totally dependent upon the United States for both steel scrap and
oil. ...President Roosevelt knowingly provoked Japan to attack
the United States.

              President Harry S. Truman made his great
contribution to the desperate predicament in which the United
States today finds itself in the Middle East when he recognized
as a sovereign state an armed uprising in Palestine by 800,000
armed aliens transplanted into Palestine in a conspiracy
organized by Talmudist Jews throughout the world. President
Truman in 1946 suffered from a pathological obsession that he
must be elected President of the United States in 1948 on his own
account.

              Mr. Clark M. Clifford [Note:  Clark M. Clifford,
1907- , attorney (Clifford and Warnke) and tired old
establishment war horse, was the architect of Truman's 1948
campaign and himself a strong advocate of recognizing Israel. He
also co-wrote the National Security Act, which created the
Central Intelligence Agency; organized the transition between the
Eisenhower and Kennedy administrations; and, until succeeded by
Nicholas Katzenbach in 1991, was chairman of First American
Bankshares, which had links to the infamous Bank of Credit and
Commerce International (BCCI). He defended BCCI twice; in 1978
against the SEC regarding BCCI's takeover of Financial General
Bankshares; and in 1989 against drug-related money-laundering
charges in Florida. In the latter case, BCCI paid a $15 million
fine; Clifford's retainer was $45.3 million. On July 29, 1992,
Clifford was indicted on ten counts by a federal grand jury for
his involvement in the BCCI affair.  --   Ed.], Secretary of
Defense under President Lyndon B. Johnson, deserves a great deal
of credit for the recognition of the State of Israel on May 14,
1948, by the United States. Mr. Eliahu Epstein, the United States
representative of the Jewish Agency in Washington in 1948, told
the story in his three page article in the Jewish Chronicle of
London in its 10th Anniversary issue... celebrating the founding
of the State of Israel.

              Mr. Clifford undoubtedly was anxious to help
because President Truman had confided in his close friends that
he wished to recognize the Zionist state in the first hour of its
birth as he did. The State of Israel was officially proclaimed in
Tel Aviv at midnight on May 14, 1948. President Truman recognized
the State of Israel eleven minutes after midnight.

              President Truman finally advised this author that
he did not wish to carry on the discussion of the Zionist
question with him any further. He wrote to this author that he
had turned over the entire Palestine question to the Honorable
David Niles. Talmudist Jews were willing to carry out their part
of the bargain with President Truman.... Although the odds in
President Truman's election were 20 to 1 against his election,
President Truman romped home the winner over Governor Dewey
assisted by the invisible and invincible Zionist political steam-
roller that always elects their candidates.

              President Truman not only used the power and
prestige of the United States to compel the United Nations to
admit the State of Israel as a peace loving nation... but he made
billions of United States taxpayer dollars available to Talmudist
Jews to make the State of Israel powerful.

              When the day to vote for the admission of the State
of Israel arrived, they were short two votes.

              The plan was about to collapse. In the emergency
Mr. Charles H. Silver engaged Cardinal Spellman to make two trips
to South America to change their votes in the United Nations....

              The newspapers around the world on June 11, 1964,
published Mr. Silver's confession of a secret I have kept for
fifteen years. The secret Cardinal Spellman kept with Mr. Silver
was that Cardinal Spellman was sent to South America by Mr.
Silver on behalf of the Talmudist Jews in New York....

              This author was a close personal friend of Cardinal
Spellman for twenty-five years. Cardinal Spellman confessed to
this author several years ago that he felt he had committed an
irreparable sin by conspiring with the Talmudist Jews... to elect
the State of Israel as a member of the United Nations. In the
midst of that bloody fighting in the Middle East in June 1967,
Cardinal Spellman told this author when alone with him in his
study that he felt personally responsible for all the lives lost
in the 1967 invasion of the United Arab Republic and Syria by the
State of Israel.

      Program of 29th October, 1994

              The story of how President Dwight D. Eisenhower
lied the United States into the desperate predicament in which
the United States today finds itself in the Middle East is not a
complicated story. Talmudist Jews in the United States pressured
President Eisenhower into sponsoring... House Joint Resolution
117 on January 5, 1957. President Eisenhower knew less about what
he was then doing than a new born babe. It was pitiful for this
author to witness a great General being figuratively pushed
around by Talmudist Jews unfit to shine his shoes.

              President Eisenhower was always friendly towards
this author. This author met President Eisenhower when he was
being considered by Mr. Thomas M. Watson, Sr. as a Presidential
candidate on the Democratic ticket. Mr. Watson was the founder of
the International Business Machines Company. Mr. Watson told this
author at that time that he believed General Eisenhower as a
civilian would make a great president.

              As President of the United States, General
Eisenhower was faithful to [the] Talmudist Jew supporters whose
friendship he first cultivated in Europe during his political
activities in Germany after the end of World War II.... Talmudist
Jews knew that as President of the United States, General
Eisenhower in their hands would be like clay in the hands of the
potter.

              In 1956 it appeared that the Middle East countries
were undergoing changes in their governments. The Zionist illegal
occupation of Palestine still existed. Populations in Middle East
countries were growing restless. Talmudist Jews recognized that
something must be done to silence the unrest. President
Eisenhower obliged....

              Lebanon is the heart of Middle East political
activity. To nip action in the bud, by native populations aiming
to assert their independence from domination by Talmudist Jews,
Talmudist Jews arranged with President Eisenhower to occupy
Lebanon with 14,000 troops and to station the Sixth Fleet off the
coast. To make it legal Talmudist Jews had Congress pass a Joint
Resolution like the Tonkin Bay Resolution passed by Congress to
legalize the war in Viet Nam.

              Present Eisenhower... satisfied Talmudist Jews in
the United States at the expense of United States taxpayers.
President Eisenhower was warning the Middle East nations not to
attempt to regain Palestine from the Zionists....

              President Eisenhower... had a consortium of the
smartest Talmudist Jews in the State, Defense, and Justice
Departments prepare that Joint Resolution. The intent of [its]
unclear language is to conceal the purpose of the Joint
Resolution, not to explain its purpose. The purpose was to have a
Joint Resolution on record that would permit President Eisenhower
to use the United States armed forces and navy to aid and abet
the Zionist thieves to hold onto their stolen loot without any
necessity to ask Congress to declare war.

              Every word President Eisenhower uttered to defend
the crooks in occupation of Palestine was a lie which contributed
to the desperate predicament in which the United States today
finds itself.... Talmudist Jews in the United States were able to
camouflage their illegal aggression in the Middle East behind the
glamour of President Eisenhower's record as a great soldier.

              The story of how President John F. Kennedy lied the
United States into the desperate predicament in which the United
States today finds itself in the Middle East is very distressing.
President Kennedy's future was uncertain after digressing on
August 25, 1960, from the straight and narrow path he had
followed all his life.

              President Kennedy could not escape the consequences
of his betrayal of the high principles to which he aimed to
dedicate his life. President Kennedy surrendered to the lure of
Talmudist Jews who pledged to put him in the White House as the
President of the United States.

              On August 23, 1960, in the United States Senate
Office Building in Washington, President Kennedy, at that time a
Senator, gave this author a copy of the address he was to deliver
in New York City on August 25, 1960. In the copy of that address
which he gave this author... President Kennedy stated among other
things:

              "Israel is here to stay...[Israel] will endure and
flourish [and there is] a special obligation on the Democratic
Party.... It was President Truman who first recognized the new
State of Israel and gave it status in world affairs.... [It is]
my hope and my pledge to continue this Democratic tradition....
if the Democratic platform is to have any meaning the White House
must take the lead.... American intervention... will not now be
easy... I propose that we make it crystal clear... we will act
promptly and decisively.... ...our guarantee [is that] we will
act with whatever force and speed are necessary...."

              Senator Kennedy was giving Talmudist Jews his
pledge that as the President of the United States he would send
sons, husbands, and brothers of the grass roots population of the
United States to fight in Palestine... to aid and abet thieves
retain possession of their stolen plunder.

              This author met President Kennedy for the first
time in his father's office at 230 Park Avenue, in New York City,
on the day after he was elected for the first time as a
Congressman in November 1946. This author was in a conference
with Ambassador Joseph Kennedy and Judge Landis, an associate of
Ambassador Kennedy. In his private office they were consulting
this author on the Middle East situation which had recently taken
an ugly turn in the United Nations.

              Suddenly the door to the private office flew open
and in came the new Congressman. Congressman Kennedy was on his
way from Boston to Washington and burst into his father's office
bubbling with enthusiasm. Ambassador Kennedy introduced this
author to the new Congressman and advised his son that he would
do well to keep in touch with this author as a source of
information he would need soon on the Palestine question.

              Ambassador Kennedy discussed the subject matter for
a short while with those present. The Congressman then asked to
leave as he was catching a train for Washington. This author
invited the Congressman to lunch and he accepted. After lunch
Congressman Kennedy asked if this author had nothing else to do
than ride to Washington with him on the train. This author was
willing and rode to Washington with him.

              From that day in November 1946 to August 23, 1960,
this author saw the Congressman, and [later] Senator, countless
times at his office in Washington and New York City. This author
was happy to enlighten Senator Kennedy on the Palestine question.
Without a doubt there were soon few people in the world who were
better informed on this subject than Senator Kennedy.

              In the fourteen years this author had the honor of
enjoying the confidence of President Kennedy he never failed to
express his appreciation for this author's interest in his
career. President Kennedy also appreciated the friendship this
author demonstrated for his father, Ambassador Kennedy.
Ambassador Kennedy was blackmailed by President Roosevelt.
President Roosevelt told Ambassador Kennedy not to write the book
Ambassador Kennedy planned to write. President Roosevelt removed
Ambassador Kennedy as Ambassador to the Court of St. James in
London for circulating what Neville Chamberlain told Ambassador
Kennedy in London in 1938.

              ...Neville Chamberlain told him that the United
States and Talmudist Jews throughout the world [were forcing]
Great Britain into... war. Chamberlain also told Ambassador
Kennedy in 1938 that Great Britain had nothing with which to
fight Germany, [and] that Great Britain should not risk going to
war against Germany....

              President Roosevelt recalled Ambassador Kennedy to
silence him. Ambassador Kennedy planned... to write a book
telling what he knew.... President Roosevelt sent for Ambassador
Kennedy upon his return to the United States.... [He] told...
Kennedy he had heard Ambassador Kennedy was planning to write a
book which he asked him not to do.

              After Ambassador Kennedy's unpleasant meeting with
President Roosevelt in Washington, after his recall from London
for daring to circulate what Chamberlain had told him about
Talmudist Jews, Ambassador Kennedy's ambition in life was to see
one of his sons in the White House as President of the United
States.

              The story of how President Lyndon Baines Johnson
lied the United States in the desperate predicament in which the
United States today finds itself in the Middle East is not a long
story. It commences with a telephone call to this author in New
York from Congressman Ed Gosset in Washington to come there at
once. Congressman Gosset represented Amarillo, Texas in the House
of Representatives.

              Congressman Gosset was alarmed that the Senate
Armed Services Committee the day before confirmed the appointment
of Anna M. Rosenberg as Assistant Secretary of Defense without a
public hearing....

              Congressman Gosset took this author to Senator
Johnson's office and explained to him the reason for the visit.
Senator Johnson was a member of the Senate Armed Services
Committee.... Senator Johnson was very much interested in
learning about Anna Rosenberg's associations with communists.

              Senator Johnson asked this author if he would
assist him in looking into the matter further by producing a
communist who knew Anna Rosenberg. Upon this author's return to
New York that day, he mentioned Senator Johnson's request to his
attorney, Mr. Hallam Richardson. Within a few hours, Mr.
Richardson produced Mr. Ralph de Sola, a prominent Communist, the
head of film photography of documents by communist organizations
in the United States.

              ...In this author's meetings with Senator Johnson,
this author had the occasion to discuss the Palestine question
with him. Senator Johnson was very interested in the Palestine
question. That subject was of great interest to the Senate Armed
Services Committee....

              As President of the United States, President
Johnson was aware of the possibility of armed conflict in the
Middle East in which the United States might become involved.
President Johnson understood the power Talmudist Jews exerted in
the United States and in the United Nations. One of his closest
friends in Washington was Mr. Abe Fortas, a prominent Zionist,
whom President Johnson appointed to the Supreme Court.

              President Johnson knew he was violating the letter
and spirit of his oath of office as the President of all the
people of the United States when he filled the pipelines of the
State of Israel with munitions of war paid for with the money of
....taxpayers in the United States. President Johnson cannot plead
ignorance of the facts. Through a very close mutual friend, this
author kept President Johnson constantly informed on developments
in the Middle East.

              ...President Johnson now seeks to justify his
generosity with United States taxpayers' money by referring to a
commitment. President Johnson knows that he is in error. The only
commitment the taxpayers in the United States recognize is
President Johnson's commitment to serve the best interests of the
grass roots population of the United States.

              President Nixon is as guilty as the other six
masters of deception who lied the United States into the
desperate predicament in which the United States today finds
itself in the Middle East. President Nixon is both an eminent
lawyer and President of the United States.

              President Nixon cannot produce any evidence of a
legitimate commitment to anyone to support President Nixon's
generous use of United States taxpayers' money for financing the
permanent possession by thieves of their stolen loot. Does
President Nixon mean the commitment by political leaders to the
Talmudist Jews in the United States who control the media for
mass information?

              President Nixon belittles himself as well as the
United States administration for whom he speaks when he talks
about a commitment of the United States to underwrite the
perpetual possession of the illegal and immoral theft of
Palestine by Talmudist Jews. President Nixon's generosity has
reached epidemic proportions. Each of the additional five hundred
million dollars of United States taxpayers' money President Nixon
donates to the so-called State of Israel are that many more nails
in the coffin of the United States.

              These seven masters of deception mock the
elementary and equitable principles upon which the United States
was founded when they throw hard-earned United States taxpayers'
dollars by the billions to criminals in possession of their
stolen loot as if it were stage money. Have they no shame or
conscience?

              This author has had the patience and the time to
inform seven Presidents of the United States about the underlying
reason for  Middle East aggression by the Talmudist Jews
throughout the world. These seven masters of deception were all
briefed by this author on the reason for the aggression in
Palestine. This author spent a small fortune acquainting members
of Congress and political and industrial leaders in the United
States with all these facts, supplying them with photostat
reproductions of documentary evidence to support every statement
made by this author.

              If the Talmudist Jews of the world say they are
willing to see another world war fought to establish God's chosen
people in their promised land to rule the world from Palestine,
then it is time to tell the grass roots of the United States
population what all the excitement is about. This issue must be
dragged into the light for the grass roots of the population of
the United States to see why they are expected to die in a
nuclear war with a smile on their face.

              The time is growing late.... This author pleads
with readers of this manuscript to purchase as many copies as
their means will permit, to be circulated by them where they
believe this information is needed and necessary. Sacrifice some
little luxury, or even a necessity to purchase as many copies as
possible. The truth contained in this manuscript can save America
and the world. Let the readers resolve to put [this information]
in the hands of every knowledgeable person of his acquaintance.

You have been listening to Jewish author Benjamin Freedman's
manuscript The Hidden Tyranny, an expose of the covert power
behind the facade of seven  Presidents and administrations in
this country.

end of transcript of radio broadcast based on Benjamin H. Freedman's _The 
Hidden Tyranny_.
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O.K., friends, there is your insider.

All the best and happy Internetting,

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Sun Jun  9 10:24:37 PDT 1996
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Laura Finsten wrote:
> ...
> 
> Herr Griswold opined about sub-Saharan Africans:
> 
>   They may have indeed.  Seeing as they were illiterate, though, we'll never
>   know, will we?  


Mr. Griswold is right. Before the arrival of literate races, the Congoids 
had no written language.

As for the Congoids being Stone Age savages when the British arrived, 
that is true only for those areas where iron ore was unknown.



....
> I responded:
> 
>   "Ironworking had reached West Africa by the fourth century B.C..


Did the book by any chance mention _where_ the knowledge of iron-working 
came from? Could it be... from Caucasians?

"The practice of smelting iron from its ores and forging it into weapons 
and tools is thought to have been brought to the Sudanids by Berbers at 
some time during the first five centuries of the Christian Era. Knowledge 
of these techniques may have spread from the west to all parts of Negrid 
Africa, but one cannot rule out the possibility that it came to the east 
and south along the Nile from the ancient civilization of Meroe. The 
smelting of iron was probably practised in most parts of the Negrid 
territory by the tenth century, except in districts where the ore was 
lacking." (Dr. John R. Baker, _Race_, Oxford University Press, London, 
1974.)


>   ..The
>   new metallurgy...spread rapidly over sub-Saharan Africa in a few
>   centuries."  B.M. Fagan, "People of the Earth". 5th edition, 1986.
>   Little, Brown. p.360.
> 
>   "Ironworking farmers were living near the great East African lakes by
>   the third century A.D., by the banks of the Zambezi River at approximately
>   the same time, and crossing the Limpopo into South Africa during the
>   first millenium A.D.  They introduced farming and domestic animals into
>   wide areas of Africa..." B.M. Fagan, "People of the Earth". 5th edition,
>   1986.  Little, Brown. p.360.
> ...

So a few Congoids were smelting iron as early as 1100 years after its use 
became common in the Mediterranean (approx. 1400 BC). And the Iron Age 
had finally spread across all of Africa about 1700 years after its use 
had spread across Europe (approx. 700 BC).

By the time the Iron Age had fully arrived in sub-Saharan Africa, Egypt, 
Persia, Macedon and Rome had arisen, shown their white-hot brilliance, 
and fallen into dust. The Pope of Rome had sat for seven centuries; and 
William the Northman was gathering his forces for an assault on Britain.


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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Sun Jun  9 10:24:38 PDT 1996
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Ian McKinney wrote:
> ...
> 
> What I can't figure out is if we are all illiterate, white trash, without
> jobs, education, and ambition, not to mention suffering from low
> self-esteem, why do they feel so threatened? It's kind of humorous, isn't
> it?
> 
> Ian McKinney

Yes, it is.

The enemies of life seem to reel wildly from one extreme to the other 
when typing their hate-rants.

One the one hand, they characterize White "racists" as pathetic losers, 
unable to keep up maintenance or payments on the '74 Pinto (which 
attitude is very revealing about the "love" of the Left for their dear 
"working class").

On the other hand, "racists" are also masterminds of a well-funded 
worldwide network of terror, propaganda, and hate which continually 
confounds the efforts of The Good to stamp it out and which at any moment 
may drop from the sky, topple the statues of Karl Marx, Franklin 
Roosevelt, and Arthur Ashe from their places of honor, and institute the 
Fourth Reich (scenario by Leni Riefenstahl, theme by Richard Strauss, 
starring Hal Peary as El Generalissimo, with a script by Henry Ford and 
P. G. Wodehouse).

But then, "liberals" live their entire lives in cloud-cuckoo-land, so 
consistency is not to be expected.

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Alexander Baron wrote:
> 
> In article <31B66623.418B@usaor.net> mckinney@usaor.net "Ian McKinney" writes:
> 
> > Ian McKinney wrote:
> >
> > I heard not long ago on this group several persons moaning about
> > the claim that Bolshevism was primarily a Jewish movement. Oh, I
> > know it's "hate" they say to mention anything derogatory about
> > God's master race. Totally without truth they will tell you.
> > Well, fortunately there were more than a few who happened to be
> > in Russia in 1917-19 and actually saw what so many today want to
> > deny. I'll provide facts to back-up my claims.
> 
> Before you give any credence to this I would advise you to read up on
> the background to this sort of material. A lot of this was manufactured
> by white Russian emigres in Rostov on Don. There was also a character named
> Boris Brasol who, as well as palming this off on Henry Ford, wormed his
> way into American intelligence.
> 
> --
> 
> Alexander Baron: InFoText Manuscripts
> 
> "He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself
> the accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


It isn't so easy as that, Mr. Baron.

The mountain of evidence, from testimony before Congressional Committees, 
to the statements of Jewish Marxists themselves, to intelligence 
documents in the National Archives, to eyewitness testimony of many who 
were there, including liberals and leftists, leads to the inescapable 
conclusion that the Bolshevik Revolution was largely a Jewish revolution.

Even Winston Churchill said so. See his _Zionism versus Bolshevism, A 
Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People_, _Illustrated Sunday Herald_, 
February 8, 1920.

Churchill contrasts loyal "national" with disloyal "international" Jews:

"In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the 
schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister 
confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of 
countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if 
not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and 
divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This 
movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt 
to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), 
Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this 
world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the 
reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of 
envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing.

"...and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the 
underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the 
Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the 
undisputed masters of that enormous empire.

"Terrorist Jews

"There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of 
Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by 
these international and for the most part atheistical Jews. It is 
certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others."

Those are the words of Winston Churchill. Need I go on?


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D. Braun wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 9 Jun 1996, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
> ...
> >
> > The mountain of evidence, from testimony before Congressional Committees,
> > to the statements of Jewish Marxists themselves, to intelligence
> > documents in the National Archives, to eyewitness testimony of many who
> > were there, including liberals and leftists, leads to the inescapable
> > conclusion that the Bolshevik Revolution was largely a Jewish revolution.
> 
> There were Jews involved in the revolution, and there were non-Jews; your
> point? Funny, I walways thought it was a communist revolution.  Also, you
> fail to mention that Karl Marx renounced his jewish faith; at the time,
> (pre-Nazi Germany) Jewish ancestry was not the issue it was to become. You
> are being just a tad revisionist here, both about Marx and the 1917
> revolution.  Your purpose? Could it be you are a loser looking
> for some one to blame?
> 


Since Jews were a tiny percentage of the Russian population, but were an 
absolute majority of the leaders of the Bolshevik government, I think it 
is a significant fact.

According to Legislative Reference Service of the Library of Congress, in 
their report to Senate Internal Security Subcommittee for 1965:

"Before World War II, 41.1 percent of the deputies to the Supreme Soviet 
of the U.S.S.R. were Jewish...."

Considering that the purpose of the report was to show the real decline 
in Jewish influence over the Soviet Union since the war, and 
considering that 1941 was _after_ some of Stalin's allegedly 
"anti-Semitic" purges, that is a remarkable admission.



> > Even Winston Churchill said so. See his _Zionism versus Bolshevism, A
> > Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People_, _Illustrated Sunday Herald_,
> > February 8, 1920.
> >
> > Churchill contrasts loyal "national" with disloyal "international" Jews:
> >
> > "In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the
> > schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister
> > confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of
> > countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if
> > not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and
> > divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This
> > movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt
> > to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary),
> > Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this
> > world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the
> > reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of
> > envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing.
> >
> > "...and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the
> > underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the
> > Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the
> > undisputed masters of that enormous empire.
> >
> > "Terrorist Jews
> >
> > "There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
> > Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by
> > these international and for the most part atheistical Jews. It is
> > certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others."
> >
> > Those are the words of Winston Churchill. Need I go on?
> 
> No, pleae shut up.  That Churchill had crackpot views about "Jewish
> Conspiracies" dosen't prove that they exist, anymore than Nixon's do, or
> yours.
> 


Winston Churchill was only saying what was common knowledge among 
educated men at the time, and what Rabbi Stephen S. Wise said more 
succinctly in the _American Bulletin_ of May 15, 1935:

"Some call it Marxism -- I call it Judaism."

....Or what left-wing theologian Reinhold Niebuhr said in a speech before 
the Jewish Institute of Religion on October 3, 1934:

"Marxism is the modern form of Jewish prophecy."

Need I go on?


> BTW, Mr. Strom, what was your family doing during the WII? I ask
> this of my opponents on issues concerning Jews, and the rise of the Nazis
> if they have germanic names.
> 
>                 Dave Braun

Those men of my family of military age were in the military during WWII, 
if that is what you mean about "the WII."

My father was 13 years old at the war's end.

What was your family doing?

I forgive you for your rudeness.

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Sun Jun  9 13:25:54 PDT 1996
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Arne Carlsten, getting emotional, wrote:

> 
> Kevin Alfred Strom  wrote:
> 
> (Bucket-load of Nazi crap deleted)
> 
> Run along, shitling, and take your fascist nonsense with you.  We dumped
> enough Nazis' corpses in the sea or buried them in the hills to have had
> our fill with Quisling-grade little National Samling scumbags such as
> yourself.
> 
> --
> Arne Gustav Carlsten
> Flagstaff, Arizona
> 
> Chomh da/na le muc...

Funny how merely suggesting that organized Jewry ought not to be immune 
to criticism can elicit such an outpouring of hate from Mr. Carlsten.

Did you, by the way, "dump" Knut Hamsun's "corpse in the sea" or are you 
only dreaming?

With nordic good wishes,


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Dear Mr. McVay:

I have emailed and posted my request to you on several occasions, asking 
you to add _your_ message to Mr. Schoedel -- the one in which you 
referred to his father not using a condom, implying that Mr. Schoedel 
should not be alive -- to your online archive. I even sent you a copy 
of the original message. You have posted your archive, or part of it, and 
that message is nowhere to be seen.

Have you added the hateful message _you_ wrote and posted about Schoedel 
to your archive? Will you post it next time you post your "Schoedel 
compilation"?

Still waiting for an answer,

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Alvin Nichter wrote:

> ...
> Kevin Strom wrote:
> : Read the article I wrote. The Communist connections of "Martin Luther
> : King" are well-documented. Even Garrow, who supported King, admits as
> : much.
> 
> Not exactly.  Did you read what he said yourself, or are you
> taking someone else's word for it?  Also, what exactly constitutes
> a "Communist connection", in your opinion?
> 

Garrow, a pro-King scholar, states that king privately described himself 
as a Marxist, in his 1981 book, _The FBI and Martin Luther King_. Yes, 
Garrow tries to minimize the importance of King's Marxism; and he makes 
much of the fact that when King met in a conference with Communist Party 
officials to decide if King would accept open Communist monetary support, 
he decided it would be impolitic to do so.

The fact that some of King's closest associates, including Stanley 
Levison, Bayard Rustin, and Jack O'Dell were Communists, and that King's 
first "March on Washington" was declared by the Communist Party to be a 
Communist project all constitute "Communist connections." There are 
others. (King and Rustin, by the way, founded the SCLC _one month_ after 
Rustin had returned from attending the convention of the Communist Party, 
USA.)


> : Earl Warren: While Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, Earl Warren made
> : friendly visits at taxpayer expense to Communist heads of state in
> : Poland, Czechoslovakia, and Yugoslavia. (This was at the height of the
> : Cold War. Perhaps he met Bill Clinton over there.) Of six such foreign
> : trips, five were to visit states of the Communist bloc. So pro-Communist
> : was the Warren court that Communist Party spokeswoman Dorothy Healy said
> : on June 17, 1957, of three simultaneous decisions made by the court that
> : day dismantling anti-Communist legislation, "This is the greatest victory
> : the Communist Party ever had."
> 
> President Reagan visited Communist countries, and met with their
> heads of state, at taxpayer expense.  Does Mr. Strom believe that
> President Reagan was part of some Communist conspiracy?
> 


No.

But Reagan's itinerary was not nearly so one-sided, nor was it during a 
period in which Communists were killing American soldiers. Further, the 
responsibility of a head of state to meet with many -- even hostile -- 
foreign powers is not comparable to what a justice on the Supreme Court 
does with his discretionary time.


....
> 
> : Four days after the assassination of President Kennedy in 1963, the
> : Communist newspaper, _The Worker_ stated:
> 
> : "We believe that President Johnson on the one hand and Congress on the
> : other should act at once to appoint respective extraordinary
> : investigating commissions with full power to conduct a searching inquiry
> : into all the circumstances around the assassination of the President and
> : the murder of the suspect. Such an investigating commission, headed by
> : the chief Justice of the Supreme Court, should be composed of citizens
> : and experts who enjoy the confidence of the nation."
> 
> The Communists were trying to get a cheap propaganda victory by
> demanding that the Government take what was the obvious course of action
> already being suggested by others.  Also, Mr. Strom has his facts so
> mixed up that he can't even get the name of the paper straight:
> it was called The Daily Worker, not "The Worker".  No one I know who has
> seriously monitored the Communist Party's actions makes this mistake.
> He's obviously repeating second- or third-hand "information".
> 

You are wrong, Mr. Nichter. Check out

http://www.voicenet.com/~jmasland/time.htm

for a timeline of events surrounding Lee Harvey Oswald, and do a search 
on "Worker." The name of the paper at that time was _The Worker_, 
presumably because it had ceased being a daily -- and it is possible both 
papers coexisted for a time. There is no doubt of its existence. Other 
references, not immediately at hand, have stated the same.


....
> 
> One member of the Warren Commission was then-Representative Gerald Ford,
> later to be President Ford.  He saw all of the evidence, and he has
> stated publicly that he agrees with the conclusions of the Warren Report.
> Does Mr. Strom believe that President Ford is a Communist?

No.


> Or does Mr. Strom believe that President Ford, who had access to ALL
> of the evidence (including that still sealed), was duped?  Where is
> Mr. Strom's evidence?  All he has is innuendo; he has no hard evidence.
> 


I said absolutely nothing about Gerald Ford or the conclusions of the 
Warren Commission in my post. Mr. Nichter is grasping at straws.


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Eugene Holman, using Britain as an example while trying to prove that 
nations do not have founding stocks, wrote:

.....
> 
> Ethnic result: Seven kingdoms, each speaking its own Germanic-based
> dialect, and with populations representing various mixtures of Celtic,
> Roman, Anglian, Saxon, Jutish, and Frisian stock.
>
> The $64 question: Identify the 'founding stock'.

White.

You may send the check to Logorrhea Prevention Society, Post Office Box 
1, Muonionniska, Lapland. Don't forget to sign it.

Seriously, Eugene, you're a lot of fun even if you try too hard not to 
see what is happening to a wonderful people.

Don't stay up too late,


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D. Braun wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 9 Jun 1996, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
> ...
> >
> > The mountain of evidence, from testimony before Congressional Committees,
> > to the statements of Jewish Marxists themselves, to intelligence
> > documents in the National Archives, to eyewitness testimony of many who
> > were there, including liberals and leftists, leads to the inescapable
> > conclusion that the Bolshevik Revolution was largely a Jewish revolution.
> 
> There were Jews involved in the revolution, and there were non-Jews; your
> point? Funny, I walways thought it was a communist revolution.  Also, you
> fail to mention that Karl Marx renounced his jewish faith; at the time,
> (pre-Nazi Germany) Jewish ancestry was not the issue it was to become. You
> are being just a tad revisionist here, both about Marx and the 1917
> revolution.  Your purpose? Could it be you are a loser looking
> for some one to blame?
> 


Since Jews were a tiny percentage of the Russian population, but were an 
absolute majority of the leaders of the Bolshevik government, I think it 
is a significant fact.

According to Legislative Reference Service of the Library of Congress, in 
their report to Senate Internal Security Subcommittee for 1965:

"Before World War II, 41.1 percent of the deputies to the Supreme Soviet 
of the U.S.S.R. were Jewish...."

Considering that the purpose of the report was to show the real decline 
in Jewish influence over the Soviet Union since the war, and 
considering that 1941 was _after_ some of Stalin's allegedly 
"anti-Semitic" purges, that is a remarkable admission.



> > Even Winston Churchill said so. See his _Zionism versus Bolshevism, A
> > Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People_, _Illustrated Sunday Herald_,
> > February 8, 1920.
> >
> > Churchill contrasts loyal "national" with disloyal "international" Jews:
> >
> > "In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the
> > schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister
> > confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of
> > countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if
> > not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and
> > divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This
> > movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt
> > to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary),
> > Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this
> > world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the
> > reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of
> > envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing.
> >
> > "...and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the
> > underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the
> > Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the
> > undisputed masters of that enormous empire.
> >
> > "Terrorist Jews
> >
> > "There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
> > Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by
> > these international and for the most part atheistical Jews. It is
> > certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others."
> >
> > Those are the words of Winston Churchill. Need I go on?
> 
> No, pleae shut up.  That Churchill had crackpot views about "Jewish
> Conspiracies" dosen't prove that they exist, anymore than Nixon's do, or
> yours.
> 


Winston Churchill was only saying what was common knowledge among 
educated men at the time, and what Rabbi Stephen S. Wise said more 
succinctly in the _American Bulletin_ of May 15, 1935:

"Some call it Marxism -- I call it Judaism."

....Or what left-wing theologian Reinhold Niebuhr said in a speech before 
the Jewish Institute of Religion on October 3, 1934:

"Marxism is the modern form of Jewish prophecy."

Need I go on?


> BTW, Mr. Strom, what was your family doing during the WII? I ask
> this of my opponents on issues concerning Jews, and the rise of the Nazis
> if they have germanic names.
> 
>                 Dave Braun

Those men of my family of military age were in the military during WWII, 
if that is what you mean about "the WII."

My father was 13 years old at the war's end.

What was your family doing?

I forgive you for your rudeness.

With all good wishes,



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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Sun Jun  9 14:57:41 PDT 1996
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D. Braun wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 9 Jun 1996, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
> ...
> >
> > The mountain of evidence, from testimony before Congressional Committees,
> > to the statements of Jewish Marxists themselves, to intelligence
> > documents in the National Archives, to eyewitness testimony of many who
> > were there, including liberals and leftists, leads to the inescapable
> > conclusion that the Bolshevik Revolution was largely a Jewish revolution.
> 
> There were Jews involved in the revolution, and there were non-Jews; your
> point? Funny, I walways thought it was a communist revolution.  Also, you
> fail to mention that Karl Marx renounced his jewish faith; at the time,
> (pre-Nazi Germany) Jewish ancestry was not the issue it was to become. You
> are being just a tad revisionist here, both about Marx and the 1917
> revolution.  Your purpose? Could it be you are a loser looking
> for some one to blame?
> 


Since Jews were a tiny percentage of the Russian population, but were an 
absolute majority of the leaders of the Bolshevik government, I think it 
is a significant fact.

According to Legislative Reference Service of the Library of Congress, in 
their report to Senate Internal Security Subcommittee for 1965:

"Before World War II, 41.1 percent of the deputies to the Supreme Soviet 
of the U.S.S.R. were Jewish...."

Considering that the purpose of the report was to show the real decline 
in Jewish influence over the Soviet Union since the war, and 
considering that 1941 was _after_ some of Stalin's allegedly 
"anti-Semitic" purges, that is a remarkable admission.



> > Even Winston Churchill said so. See his _Zionism versus Bolshevism, A
> > Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People_, _Illustrated Sunday Herald_,
> > February 8, 1920.
> >
> > Churchill contrasts loyal "national" with disloyal "international" Jews:
> >
> > "In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the
> > schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister
> > confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of
> > countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if
> > not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and
> > divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This
> > movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt
> > to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary),
> > Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this
> > world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the
> > reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of
> > envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing.
> >
> > "...and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the
> > underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the
> > Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the
> > undisputed masters of that enormous empire.
> >
> > "Terrorist Jews
> >
> > "There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
> > Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by
> > these international and for the most part atheistical Jews. It is
> > certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others."
> >
> > Those are the words of Winston Churchill. Need I go on?
> 
> No, pleae shut up.  That Churchill had crackpot views about "Jewish
> Conspiracies" dosen't prove that they exist, anymore than Nixon's do, or
> yours.
> 


Winston Churchill was only saying what was common knowledge among 
educated men at the time, and what Rabbi Stephen S. Wise said more 
succinctly in the _American Bulletin_ of May 15, 1935:

"Some call it Marxism -- I call it Judaism."

....Or what left-wing theologian Reinhold Niebuhr said in a speech before 
the Jewish Institute of Religion on October 3, 1934:

"Marxism is the modern form of Jewish prophecy."

Need I go on?


> BTW, Mr. Strom, what was your family doing during the WII? I ask
> this of my opponents on issues concerning Jews, and the rise of the Nazis
> if they have germanic names.
> 
>                 Dave Braun

Those men of my family of military age were in the military during WWII, 
if that is what you mean about "the WII."

My father was 13 years old at the war's end.

What was your family doing?

I forgive you for your rudeness.

With all good wishes,



-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Sun Jun  9 22:33:14 PDT 1996
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Eugene Holman, using Britain as an example while trying to prove that 
nations do not have founding stocks, wrote:

.....
> 
> Ethnic result: Seven kingdoms, each speaking its own Germanic-based
> dialect, and with populations representing various mixtures of Celtic,
> Roman, Anglian, Saxon, Jutish, and Frisian stock.
>
> The $64 question: Identify the 'founding stock'.

White.

You may send the check to Logorrhea Prevention Society, Post Office Box 
1, Muonionniska, Lapland. Don't forget to sign it.

Seriously, Eugene, you're a lot of fun even if you try too hard not to 
see what is happening to a wonderful people.

Don't stay up too late,


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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Tue Jun 11 06:53:50 PDT 1996
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Arne Carlsten, becoming hysterical, wrote:

> ...
> : >Run along, shitling, and take your fascist nonsense with you.  We dumped
> : >enough Nazis' corpses in the sea or buried them in the hills to have had
> : >our fill with Quisling-grade little National Samling scumbags such as
> : >yourself.
> ...
> I'll save my "love and tolerance" for those who don't advocate genocide.
> For those who don't make war on their own people.
> ...
> 
> Just _try_ and shut me up.  Your lot are dangerous when you've got numbers
> and all the guns, and the darkness of night.  But you've been losing
> since 1942 or so...
> ...
> 
> Sorry, but we'll be having none of that.  The day pieces of two-legged
> shit like you start trying to run things again, we start dealing with
> your lot the way everyone from Siberia to California dealt with the last
> bunch: "Front sight, squeeeeze..."
> 
> --
> Arne Gustav Carlsten
> Flagstaff, Arizona
> 
> Chomh da/na le muc...


Arne, Arne. I never said the slightest thing about violence. This thread 
was about the Soviet Union and Communism. I deplore violence and want 
only self-determination and freedom for White people. You are the only 
one threatening violence and flailing insults about.

You know very very little about me, and yet you are willing to call me a 
"scumbag," advocate that I be shot and killed, and my corpse be buried in 
the hills or cast into the sea. Please try and calm down. We needn't 
agree; but we can speak together and exchange ideas on the Internet 
without making violent threats.

At any rate, in your emotional heat, you completely failed to answer my 
question:

Did you "dump" Knut Hamsun's "corpse in the sea" or "bury it in the 
hills" after "dealing" with him? Please let me know.

"...[W]e are justified in saying that the Scandinavians belong to the 
Germanic branch of the Indo-European race. Anthropological investigation 
shows that they have preserved more fully the characteristic Germanic 
traits than have any other people."

                  -- _History of the Norwegian People_,
                     Knut Gjerset, PhD, LittD

"Her eyebrows were light,
 her bosom lighter,
 her neck whiter than the white snow.

 Light was his hair,
 bright were his cheeks,
 and sharp his eyes
 like the serpents."

       -- from the _Elder Edda_

With nordic good wishes,


-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Tue Jun 11 07:34:39 PDT 1996
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Arne Carlsten, becoming hysterical, wrote:

> ...
> : >Run along, shitling, and take your fascist nonsense with you.  We dumped
> : >enough Nazis' corpses in the sea or buried them in the hills to have had
> : >our fill with Quisling-grade little National Samling scumbags such as
> : >yourself.
> ...
> I'll save my "love and tolerance" for those who don't advocate genocide.
> For those who don't make war on their own people.
> ...
> 
> Just _try_ and shut me up.  Your lot are dangerous when you've got numbers
> and all the guns, and the darkness of night.  But you've been losing
> since 1942 or so...
> ...
> 
> Sorry, but we'll be having none of that.  The day pieces of two-legged
> shit like you start trying to run things again, we start dealing with
> your lot the way everyone from Siberia to California dealt with the last
> bunch: "Front sight, squeeeeze..."
> 
> --
> Arne Gustav Carlsten
> Flagstaff, Arizona
> 
> Chomh da/na le muc...


Arne, Arne. I never said the slightest thing about violence. This thread 
was about the Soviet Union and Communism. I deplore violence and want 
only self-determination and freedom for White people. You are the only 
one threatening violence and flailing insults about.

You know very very little about me, and yet you are willing to call me a 
"scumbag," advocate that I be shot and killed, and my corpse be buried in 
the hills or cast into the sea. Please try and calm down. We needn't 
agree; but we can speak together and exchange ideas on the Internet 
without making violent threats.

At any rate, in your emotional heat, you completely failed to answer my 
question:

Did you "dump" Knut Hamsun's "corpse in the sea" or "bury it in the 
hills" after "dealing" with him? Please let me know.

"...[W]e are justified in saying that the Scandinavians belong to the 
Germanic branch of the Indo-European race. Anthropological investigation 
shows that they have preserved more fully the characteristic Germanic 
traits than have any other people."

                  -- _History of the Norwegian People_,
                     Knut Gjerset, PhD, LittD

"Her eyebrows were light,
 her bosom lighter,
 her neck whiter than the white snow.

 Light was his hair,
 bright were his cheeks,
 and sharp his eyes
 like the serpents."

       -- from the _Elder Edda_

With nordic good wishes,


-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

-----------------------------------------------------------
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                  http://www.natall.com/


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Arne Carlsten, becoming hysterical, wrote:

> ...
> : >Run along, shitling, and take your fascist nonsense with you.  We dumped
> : >enough Nazis' corpses in the sea or buried them in the hills to have had
> : >our fill with Quisling-grade little National Samling scumbags such as
> : >yourself.
> ...
> I'll save my "love and tolerance" for those who don't advocate genocide.
> For those who don't make war on their own people.
> ...
> 
> Just _try_ and shut me up.  Your lot are dangerous when you've got numbers
> and all the guns, and the darkness of night.  But you've been losing
> since 1942 or so...
> ...
> 
> Sorry, but we'll be having none of that.  The day pieces of two-legged
> shit like you start trying to run things again, we start dealing with
> your lot the way everyone from Siberia to California dealt with the last
> bunch: "Front sight, squeeeeze..."
> 
> --
> Arne Gustav Carlsten
> Flagstaff, Arizona
> 
> Chomh da/na le muc...


Arne, Arne. I never said the slightest thing about violence. This thread 
was about the Soviet Union and Communism. I deplore violence and want 
only self-determination and freedom for White people. You are the only 
one threatening violence and flailing insults about.

You know very very little about me, and yet you are willing to call me a 
"scumbag," advocate that I be shot and killed, and my corpse be buried in 
the hills or cast into the sea. Please try and calm down. We needn't 
agree; but we can speak together and exchange ideas on the Internet 
without making violent threats.

At any rate, in your emotional heat, you completely failed to answer my 
question:

Did you "dump" Knut Hamsun's "corpse in the sea" or "bury it in the 
hills" after "dealing" with him? Please let me know.

"...[W]e are justified in saying that the Scandinavians belong to the 
Germanic branch of the Indo-European race. Anthropological investigation 
shows that they have preserved more fully the characteristic Germanic 
traits than have any other people."

                  -- _History of the Norwegian People_,
                     Knut Gjerset, PhD, LittD

"Her eyebrows were light,
 her bosom lighter,
 her neck whiter than the white snow.

 Light was his hair,
 bright were his cheeks,
 and sharp his eyes
 like the serpents."

       -- from the _Elder Edda_

With nordic good wishes,


-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

-----------------------------------------------------------
      Resource list; not all are affiliated with me;
                  I speak only for myself:

                 Occupied America Homepage:
      http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/america/

     Information on Amateur Radio Operations on 3950 kHz:
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                The Finest in European Art:
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                   Patriotic Resistance:
                  http://www.natvan.com/
                  http://www.natall.com/


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>From  _The Jewish Voice_ (New York, January 1942):

"The Jewish people will never forget that the Soviet Union was the first 
country -- and as yet the only country in the world -- in which 
anti-Semitism is a crime."

>From  _The Congress Bulletin_ (New York, American Jewish Congress, January 
5, 1940)[referring to the Soviet government]:

"Anti-semitism was classed as counter-revolution and the severe 
punishments meted out for acts of anti-Semitism were the means by which 
the existing order protected its own safety."

>From  George Bernard Shaw, quoted in _The Jewish Guardian_ (London, August 
7, 1931):

"I have seen the statement which Stalin gave recently to the Jewish 
Telegraphic Agency on anti-Semitism and in which the Soviet leader said 
that under the Soviet laws militant anti-Semitism is punishable by 
death."

It seems that soon the United States may follow Lenin's and Stalin's lead 
and establish laws against "anti-Semitism" here.

It would seem only fair, therefore, that we also establish laws against 
anti-White activities. This would put most of the television production 
companies, political parties, newspapers, magazines, foundations, motion 
picture companies, and "anti-racists" on this newsgroup out of business, 
of course; but that would be no great loss.

With my best wishes,

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Thu Jun 13 06:28:59 PDT 1996
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Caesar wrote:
> ...
> 
> Actually, since Aryans are those who speak Indo-European languages
> (it was orginally a linguistic definition, until racists
> changed it to mean blue-eyed, blond-haired and light-skinned),


Not true. The ancient Aryans used it to mean "noble" in the sense of "of 
noble birth" and used it as a term to distinguish themselves from the 
aboriginal people they had conquered. That is not a linguistic 
definition.

I have seven dictionaries in my home, two unabridged. Only the most 
recent (1987) gives a _linguistic_ definition as the primary definition 
for the noun "Aryan."

My Funk and Wagnall's unabridged gives the following:

"Aryan, n. 1. One of the primitive people who are said to have migrated 
into Europe and India from Central Asia, and are the parent stock of the 
Hindus, Persians, Greeks, Latins, Celts, Anglo-Saxons, etc.; orignally 
the Iranic or Asiatic division of this people. In Europe the Aryan 
includes the blond and the brunette, or the xanthchroic and the 
melanochroic, divisions."

"Aryan" as a linguistic term is the _last_ definition given, of three.


> then there are a lot more than 8% of the world's population
> who are Aryan.
> 
> Let's see: over 400 million North Indians speaking Hindi and
> other languages,


Some Aryans mixed with the other races they conquered so they can hardly 
be counted if what we mean to count is those people retaining in large 
measure the racial qualities of the original Aryans. Some on the Indian 
subcontinent do qualify, however.


> about 800 million Europeans (ex. Basques,
> Welsh-speakers, Gaelic etc)


You are woefully misinformed -- Celtic languages are indeed Indo-European 
and derived from the root language of the original Aryans.


> and maybe about 800 million elsewhere
> (Middle East + N.America+S.America).


Adding _all_ of South America and North America's population as Aryan 
just because they speak an Aryan language is like counting mice as horses 
just because they're in the stable.


> This is a total
> of almost 2 billion people, about 35% of the world's population.
> 


Waaay too high.


Still brown-eyed,


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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun 14 00:06:30 PDT 1996
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James R. Olson, jr. wrote:

> 
> Kevin Alfred Strom  wrote in a deceptively
> mild tone:
> 
> ->I do advocate racial separatism; much as Jefferson, Lincoln, Monroe, and
> ->the vast majority of our founding fathers advocated it.
> 
> The only way you are going to achieve racial seperatism is by law, the
> only way you can enforce that law is by force.  Thus by claiming that
> you want racial seperation, you are saying that it should be achieved
> by the use of force.  Your mild tone is patently a lie.
> 

The only way you can stop litter is by law. The only way you can enforce 
that law is by force. If you want to stop litter, you are saying it 
should be achieved by the use of force. Your mild tone is patently a lie.

The only way that you can stop discrimination is by law. The only way 
that you can enforce that law is by force. If you want to stop 
discrimination, you are saying it should be achieved by the use of force. 
Your mild tone is patently a lie.


> By the way, I'm curious as to why you never addressed Hiro
> Protagonist's earlier point about race being a flawed paradigm.  Most
> anthropologists agree that race is an artificial construct, since it
> can't be accurately delineated.
> 

Are you saying that it can _never_ be accurately delineated? What an 
interesting conclusion.

Are you saying that if we cannot precisely define the border between two 
entities -- like the Gulf of Mexico and the Mississippi River -- that the 
entities themselves do not exist?

Are you saying that because meteorologists have subjectively or 
arbitrarily decided what to call "low pressure" and what to call "high 
pressure," that storm systems do not exist?

What "most anthropologists" believe would be interesting to know, but 
certainly not authoritative. Many physical anthropologists would disagree 
with you; but let that pass.

By the way, I have addressed the issue of the reality of race in many 
posts before -- I suggest you do a Deja News search on my name or 
address, and they will all be available to you.

Many things which usefully and accurately describe the world around us 
are "artificial constructs" to some degree: the days of the week, for 
example. There is no way to prove that this period of midnight to 
midnight at the prime meridian actually _is_ Thursday, for example, 
because "Thursday" is a term we have _agreed on_ (though it does describe 
something that exists in the real world). Once we fail to agree on that 
definition -- such as one of us insisting that sunrise and not midnight, 
or Dallas and not Greenwich are the defining points of reference, then 
"Thursday" falls apart as a concept we can communicate about. But the 
reality behind "Thursday" is unaltered -- it continues to be what it is, 
and what it always has been.

Species, subspecies, and racial boundaries are subject to disagreement 
among men -- obviously. But it would be absurd to therefore argue that 
life forms do not differentiate and branch off into subspecies, which in 
turn branch off into new species. Race is an aspect of this process. And 
I think that the primary human races certainly qualify for at least 
subspecies classification.

By the way, what is your comment on Arne Carlsten's "mild tone"?

With all good wishes,


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Harry Katz wrote:
> ...
> 
> Marx was no kind of Jew.  The only people who insist he was a Jew are
> racists who believe that Jewishness is in our genes and inheritable....
> 

By your definition, then, Dr. Frederick Lachman, Executive Editor of the 
_Enclyclopedia Judaica_, was a racist who believes that Jewishness is in 
our genes and inheritable?

Are the other Jewish reference works, which cite famous Communists such 
as Herbert Aptheker (presumably an atheist by religion) as Jews -- are 
they also edited by "racists"?

The term "half-Jewish" is commonplace, among both Jews and non-Jews. If 
there is no genetic component to Jewishness, then how do you account for 
the pervasiveness of this concept among many Jews?

How do you account for the belief among many Jews that the offspring of a 
Jewish mother is by definition a Jew, if there is no genetic or inherited 
component to Jewishness?

How do you account for the acceptance of non-religious Jews into Israel 
under the law of return, if there is no genetic or inherited component to 
Jewishness?

Now, it may be that _you_ believe there is no genetic or inherited 
component to Jewishness -- but many Jews obviously disagree with you.

With good wishes to all,

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Piotr:

Welcome to the USA, my friend, where the enemies of the Americans have 
been running the show for sixty years -- and most Americans are too 
stupid to figure it out.

You would think that importing alien races and encouraging them to breed 
with the Americans' children, and then criminalizing any resistance to 
the genocide, would have been enough to wake the sleeping boobies. But 
you would be wrong.

"Evil! Evil! Jail them! Kill them!" is the response of the rulers of 
America to any who would attempt the thankless job of awakening the 
TV-narcotized Americans, who nod dimly at the exclamation.

Ezra Pound was right when he stated, as he got off the boat in Naples, 
Italy:

"All America is an insane asylum." And the inmates are running the show.

With my very best wishes, and hoping that you realize that not all 
Americans accept the current regime,


-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun 14 09:10:11 PDT 1996
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Piotr:

Welcome to the USA, my friend, where the enemies of the Americans have 
been running the show for sixty years -- and most Americans are too 
stupid to figure it out.

You would think that importing alien races and encouraging them to breed 
with the Americans' children, and then criminalizing any resistance to 
the genocide, would have been enough to wake the sleeping boobies. But 
you would be wrong.

"Evil! Evil! Jail them! Kill them!" is the response of the rulers of 
America to any who would attempt the thankless job of awakening the 
TV-narcotized Americans, who nod dimly at the exclamation.

Ezra Pound was right when he stated, as he got off the boat in Naples, 
Italy:

"All America is an insane asylum." And the inmates are running the show.

With my very best wishes, and hoping that you realize that not all 
Americans accept the current regime,


-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

-----------------------------------------------------------
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                   Patriotic Resistance:
                  http://www.natvan.com/
                  http://www.natall.com/


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun 14 09:27:14 PDT 1996
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Piotr:

Welcome to the USA, my friend, where the enemies of the Americans have 
been running the show for sixty years -- and most Americans are too 
stupid to figure it out.

You would think that importing alien races and encouraging them to breed 
with the Americans' children, and then criminalizing any resistance to 
the genocide, would have been enough to wake the sleeping boobies. But 
you would be wrong.

"Evil! Evil! Jail them! Kill them!" is the response of the rulers of 
America to any who would attempt the thankless job of awakening the 
TV-narcotized Americans, who nod dimly at the exclamation.

Ezra Pound was right when he stated, as he got off the boat in Naples, 
Italy:

"All America is an insane asylum." And the inmates are running the show.

With my very best wishes, and hoping that you realize that not all 
Americans accept the current regime,


-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

-----------------------------------------------------------
      Resource list; not all are affiliated with me;
                  I speak only for myself:

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      http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/america/

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                The Finest in European Art:
      http://www.telecall.co.uk/~synergy/gframing/cat2.html

                   Patriotic Resistance:
                  http://www.natvan.com/
                  http://www.natall.com/


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun 14 10:20:09 PDT 1996
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From: Kevin Alfred Strom 
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James R. Olson, jr. wrote:

> 
> Kevin Alfred Strom  wrote in a deceptively
> mild tone:
> 
> ->I do advocate racial separatism; much as Jefferson, Lincoln, Monroe, and
> ->the vast majority of our founding fathers advocated it.
> 
> The only way you are going to achieve racial seperatism is by law, the
> only way you can enforce that law is by force.  Thus by claiming that
> you want racial seperation, you are saying that it should be achieved
> by the use of force.  Your mild tone is patently a lie.
> 

The only way you can stop litter is by law. The only way you can enforce 
that law is by force. If you want to stop litter, you are saying it 
should be achieved by the use of force. Your mild tone is patently a lie.

The only way that you can stop discrimination is by law. The only way 
that you can enforce that law is by force. If you want to stop 
discrimination, you are saying it should be achieved by the use of force. 
Your mild tone is patently a lie.


> By the way, I'm curious as to why you never addressed Hiro
> Protagonist's earlier point about race being a flawed paradigm.  Most
> anthropologists agree that race is an artificial construct, since it
> can't be accurately delineated.
> 

Are you saying that it can _never_ be accurately delineated? What an 
interesting conclusion.

Are you saying that if we cannot precisely define the border between two 
entities -- like the Gulf of Mexico and the Mississippi River -- that the 
entities themselves do not exist?

Are you saying that because meteorologists have subjectively or 
arbitrarily decided what to call "low pressure" and what to call "high 
pressure," that storm systems do not exist?

What "most anthropologists" believe would be interesting to know, but 
certainly not authoritative. Many physical anthropologists would disagree 
with you; but let that pass.

By the way, I have addressed the issue of the reality of race in many 
posts before -- I suggest you do a Deja News search on my name or 
address, and they will all be available to you.

Many things which usefully and accurately describe the world around us 
are "artificial constructs" to some degree: the days of the week, for 
example. There is no way to prove that this period of midnight to 
midnight at the prime meridian actually _is_ Thursday, for example, 
because "Thursday" is a term we have _agreed on_ (though it does describe 
something that exists in the real world). Once we fail to agree on that 
definition -- such as one of us insisting that sunrise and not midnight, 
or Dallas and not Greenwich are the defining points of reference, then 
"Thursday" falls apart as a concept we can communicate about. But the 
reality behind "Thursday" is unaltered -- it continues to be what it is, 
and what it always has been.

Species, subspecies, and racial boundaries are subject to disagreement 
among men -- obviously. But it would be absurd to therefore argue that 
life forms do not differentiate and branch off into subspecies, which in 
turn branch off into new species. Race is an aspect of this process. And 
I think that the primary human races certainly qualify for at least 
subspecies classification.

By the way, what is your comment on Arne Carlsten's "mild tone"?

With all good wishes,


-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

-----------------------------------------------------------
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                  I speak only for myself:

                 Occupied America Homepage:
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                  http://www.natall.com/


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun 14 10:40:34 PDT 1996
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James R. Olson, jr. wrote:

> 
> Kevin Alfred Strom  wrote in a deceptively
> mild tone:
> 
> ->I do advocate racial separatism; much as Jefferson, Lincoln, Monroe, and
> ->the vast majority of our founding fathers advocated it.
> 
> The only way you are going to achieve racial seperatism is by law, the
> only way you can enforce that law is by force.  Thus by claiming that
> you want racial seperation, you are saying that it should be achieved
> by the use of force.  Your mild tone is patently a lie.
> 

The only way you can stop litter is by law. The only way you can enforce 
that law is by force. If you want to stop litter, you are saying it 
should be achieved by the use of force. Your mild tone is patently a lie.

The only way that you can stop discrimination is by law. The only way 
that you can enforce that law is by force. If you want to stop 
discrimination, you are saying it should be achieved by the use of force. 
Your mild tone is patently a lie.


> By the way, I'm curious as to why you never addressed Hiro
> Protagonist's earlier point about race being a flawed paradigm.  Most
> anthropologists agree that race is an artificial construct, since it
> can't be accurately delineated.
> 

Are you saying that it can _never_ be accurately delineated? What an 
interesting conclusion.

Are you saying that if we cannot precisely define the border between two 
entities -- like the Gulf of Mexico and the Mississippi River -- that the 
entities themselves do not exist?

Are you saying that because meteorologists have subjectively or 
arbitrarily decided what to call "low pressure" and what to call "high 
pressure," that storm systems do not exist?

What "most anthropologists" believe would be interesting to know, but 
certainly not authoritative. Many physical anthropologists would disagree 
with you; but let that pass.

By the way, I have addressed the issue of the reality of race in many 
posts before -- I suggest you do a Deja News search on my name or 
address, and they will all be available to you.

Many things which usefully and accurately describe the world around us 
are "artificial constructs" to some degree: the days of the week, for 
example. There is no way to prove that this period of midnight to 
midnight at the prime meridian actually _is_ Thursday, for example, 
because "Thursday" is a term we have _agreed on_ (though it does describe 
something that exists in the real world). Once we fail to agree on that 
definition -- such as one of us insisting that sunrise and not midnight, 
or Dallas and not Greenwich are the defining points of reference, then 
"Thursday" falls apart as a concept we can communicate about. But the 
reality behind "Thursday" is unaltered -- it continues to be what it is, 
and what it always has been.

Species, subspecies, and racial boundaries are subject to disagreement 
among men -- obviously. But it would be absurd to therefore argue that 
life forms do not differentiate and branch off into subspecies, which in 
turn branch off into new species. Race is an aspect of this process. And 
I think that the primary human races certainly qualify for at least 
subspecies classification.

By the way, what is your comment on Arne Carlsten's "mild tone"?

With all good wishes,


-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

-----------------------------------------------------------
      Resource list; not all are affiliated with me;
                  I speak only for myself:

                 Occupied America Homepage:
      http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/america/

     Information on Amateur Radio Operations on 3950 kHz:
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                The Finest in European Art:
      http://www.telecall.co.uk/~synergy/gframing/cat2.html

                   Patriotic Resistance:
                  http://www.natvan.com/
                  http://www.natall.com/


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun 14 14:45:22 PDT 1996
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From: Kevin Alfred Strom 
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Piotr:

Welcome to the USA, my friend, where the enemies of the Americans have 
been running the show for sixty years -- and most Americans are too 
stupid to figure it out.

You would think that importing alien races and encouraging them to breed 
with the Americans' children, and then criminalizing any resistance to 
the genocide, would have been enough to wake the sleeping boobies. But 
you would be wrong.

"Evil! Evil! Jail them! Kill them!" is the response of the rulers of 
America to any who would attempt the thankless job of awakening the 
TV-narcotized Americans, who nod dimly at the exclamation.

Ezra Pound was right when he stated, as he got off the boat in Naples, 
Italy:

"All America is an insane asylum." And the inmates are running the show.

With my very best wishes, and hoping that you realize that not all 
Americans accept the current regime,


-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

-----------------------------------------------------------
      Resource list; not all are affiliated with me;
                  I speak only for myself:

                 Occupied America Homepage:
      http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/america/

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                The Finest in European Art:
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                   Patriotic Resistance:
                  http://www.natvan.com/
                  http://www.natall.com/


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Tue Jun 18 10:47:57 PDT 1996
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Cthulhu wrote:

> 
> In article <4pcq28$c8c@freenet-news.carleton.ca>, bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
> >> It's one thing to conclude that is disease of the skin is related to the
> >> coloring of the skin. It's quite another to conclude that mental capacity
> >> and criminal tendencies are related to the coloring of the skin.
> >
> >But when observation establishes that there IS a correlation, it warrants
> >further investigation,
> 
> A hypothetical scenario. No observation has ever found such a correlation.


Naturally, no one claims that the manifold differences in behavior 
between blue jays and cardinals is _caused_ by the fact that one has blue 
feathers and the other red.

And no one claims that the many differences between lions and tigers in 
behavior is _caused_ by the fact that one is brown and the other orange.

However, the genetic code which determines behaviorial tendencies also 
determines the coloration; so the difference in coloration is an external 
sign of the deep differences that extend even below the cellular level.

With my best wishes,

-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

-----------------------------------------------------------
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                  http://www.natall.com/


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun 21 09:13:15 PDT 1996
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James R. Olson, jr. wrote:
> ...
> Whitaker, Strom, et al seem to want to bring Serbia here.  Tribalism
> worked when the only tribe you had to worry about was the one across
> the river, but we now have dealings with the whole world, and
> incidentally, the whole world is coming down on the Serbs, even if it
> is a little slowly.
> 

It was the ruling element among the Serbs (though certainly not a 
majority of Serbs) who, aligned with the Soviet Union, fought 
hardest against the devolution of "Yugoslavia" into its component parts 
and established themselves and various traitors from the other 
ethnicities as a ruling Communist elite there.

"Yugoslavia" was a multi-ethnic empire which oppressed the national 
aspirations of all its subjects. It was this decades-long suppression and 
the continued power of those who would like to see it return in full 
force that are the cause of the carnage there now.

The desire of Serbs, Croats, Bosnians, et al., for their own 
self-determination and freedom to live in their own state is not the 
cause of the carnage and death.

It is the desire for ethnic self-determination that I support. I oppose 
multi-ethnic empires, which are by their very nature oppressive and 
always end up as de facto if not de jure "supremacist" regimes of one 
kind or another. The multi-ethnic road is the one that Yugoslavia took, 
and the one which America is now taking (in a much, much bigger way, of 
course). The result is usually the same.

I advocate self-determination and self-rule for all who consider 
themselves a people. This, of course, includes White Americans.

With all good wishes, even to those who hate and malign me,


-- 


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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun 21 09:13:16 PDT 1996
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Shawn Hinkle wrote:
> 
> From "Birchism Was My Business" by Gerald Schomp, 1970....
> Me: Stop me if I'm wrong.  As conservatives we uphold the U.S. Constitution and
> full protection of the rights of the individual even against the society as a
> whole.
> 
> Them: Sure 'nuff.  We're libertarians and individualists.
> 
> Me: As solid supporters of the free enterprise system, we believe that a man's
> property is his own treasure and he is at liberty to use it as he wishes.
> 
> Them: True! True!  We're capitalists.  A man's home is his castle.  He can do
> whatever he wants with it as long as he doesn't anybody else's rights.
> 
> Me: Righto!  That means of course that if a man decides to sell his house to a
> Negro that's his right.
> 
> Them: Whow there!  You mean a white man in our neighborhood is selling to a
> nigger?
> 
> Me: Correct!  That's his privelege, huh fellow conservatives and constitutionalists?
> 
> Them:  He can't do that in our neighborhood!
> ...

Of course, _now_ it _is_ illegal to sell (or rent) your property to 
whomever you choose -- if a member of a protected class wants it, your 
wishes count for nothing. In stark fact, freedom of association and 
contract have been baldly abrogated by the Soviet-style "civil rights" 
laws and edicts from the Revolutionary Tribunal which, for some reason or 
other, still calls itself the "Supreme Court."

The example above is dishonest in that it implies that many White 
Americans in the 1960s were anxious and eager to sell their properties to 
Blacks, but were being legally prevented from doing so by "racist" laws. 
I can assure you that such was not the case. In fact, there was 
considerable resistance to housing "integration," and even today it is 
only the threat of fines and imprisonment by federal tyrants that keeps 
Whites from contractually preferring their own on a massive scale. (They 
still _do_ prefer their own on a massive scale, of course, using the only 
method left to them by the Commissars in occupied Washington: flight.)

"A man's property is his own treasure and he is at liberty to use it as 
he wishes" used as a slogan to justify forced association partakes of an 
irony that only a liberal, or a corpse, could miss.

Happy solstice,

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun 21 09:13:17 PDT 1996
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tombrown@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu wrote:
> 
> I just saw this. What does Knut Hamsun have to do with this thread?
> 

The original thread dealt with, I believe, Communism, the John Birch 
Society, and the "civil rights" movement. I posted an article documenting 
some of the claims of the John Birch Society (of which I am not a 
member).

For doing so, an individual named Arne Carlsten, attacked me as a 
supposed "nazi," and stated, among other things, that he wished me to be 
dead by shooting, poison, stabbing, and perhaps a few other methods (Do a 
search at http://www.dejanews.com/ if you want to access the full thread; 
I can't remember all the various ways I was supposed to die.).

He further stated that he and his military buddies had thrown the corpses 
of "people like" me "in the sea" and would be happy to do the same to 
mine. He made reference to my Scandinavian surname in his hate-rant, so I 
asked him if he felt the same way about Knut Hamsun, and had he done any 
such violence to his body. Carlsten's answer, while not entirely 
responsive, indicated to me that he wished he had.

If you are really interested in the pathology and intolerance of 
Carlsten, and are not familiar with the use of Deja News, I would be 
happy to email you the posts in question.

Of course, since then, the thread has drifted even further from my 
original points.

Happy solstice and good wishes,


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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun 21 09:13:18 PDT 1996
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Knut Hamsun was one of Norway's greatest writers.

Like American writers Ezra Pound and William Joyce, Hamsun was 
sympathetic to the Anti-Comintern powers during the War To Impose The New 
World Order, and so is now either hated or has his life bowdlerized by 
the Commissars of Culture at our universities.

The boobs, it goes without saying, are kept almost totally unaware of his 
existence; as they are of so many other things.

With all good wishes and happy solstice,

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun 21 10:20:14 PDT 1996
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James R. Olson, jr. wrote:
> ...
> Whitaker, Strom, et al seem to want to bring Serbia here.  Tribalism
> worked when the only tribe you had to worry about was the one across
> the river, but we now have dealings with the whole world, and
> incidentally, the whole world is coming down on the Serbs, even if it
> is a little slowly.
> 

It was the ruling element among the Serbs (though certainly not a 
majority of Serbs) who, aligned with the Soviet Union, fought 
hardest against the devolution of "Yugoslavia" into its component parts 
and established themselves and various traitors from the other 
ethnicities as a ruling Communist elite there.

"Yugoslavia" was a multi-ethnic empire which oppressed the national 
aspirations of all its subjects. It was this decades-long suppression and 
the continued power of those who would like to see it return in full 
force that are the cause of the carnage there now.

The desire of Serbs, Croats, Bosnians, et al., for their own 
self-determination and freedom to live in their own state is not the 
cause of the carnage and death.

It is the desire for ethnic self-determination that I support. I oppose 
multi-ethnic empires, which are by their very nature oppressive and 
always end up as de facto if not de jure "supremacist" regimes of one 
kind or another. The multi-ethnic road is the one that Yugoslavia took, 
and the one which America is now taking (in a much, much bigger way, of 
course). The result is usually the same.

I advocate self-determination and self-rule for all who consider 
themselves a people. This, of course, includes White Americans.

With all good wishes, even to those who hate and malign me,


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Shawn Hinkle wrote:
> 
> From "Birchism Was My Business" by Gerald Schomp, 1970....
> Me: Stop me if I'm wrong.  As conservatives we uphold the U.S. Constitution and
> full protection of the rights of the individual even against the society as a
> whole.
> 
> Them: Sure 'nuff.  We're libertarians and individualists.
> 
> Me: As solid supporters of the free enterprise system, we believe that a man's
> property is his own treasure and he is at liberty to use it as he wishes.
> 
> Them: True! True!  We're capitalists.  A man's home is his castle.  He can do
> whatever he wants with it as long as he doesn't anybody else's rights.
> 
> Me: Righto!  That means of course that if a man decides to sell his house to a
> Negro that's his right.
> 
> Them: Whow there!  You mean a white man in our neighborhood is selling to a
> nigger?
> 
> Me: Correct!  That's his privelege, huh fellow conservatives and constitutionalists?
> 
> Them:  He can't do that in our neighborhood!
> ...

Of course, _now_ it _is_ illegal to sell (or rent) your property to 
whomever you choose -- if a member of a protected class wants it, your 
wishes count for nothing. In stark fact, freedom of association and 
contract have been baldly abrogated by the Soviet-style "civil rights" 
laws and edicts from the Revolutionary Tribunal which, for some reason or 
other, still calls itself the "Supreme Court."

The example above is dishonest in that it implies that many White 
Americans in the 1960s were anxious and eager to sell their properties to 
Blacks, but were being legally prevented from doing so by "racist" laws. 
I can assure you that such was not the case. In fact, there was 
considerable resistance to housing "integration," and even today it is 
only the threat of fines and imprisonment by federal tyrants that keeps 
Whites from contractually preferring their own on a massive scale. (They 
still _do_ prefer their own on a massive scale, of course, using the only 
method left to them by the Commissars in occupied Washington: flight.)

"A man's property is his own treasure and he is at liberty to use it as 
he wishes" used as a slogan to justify forced association partakes of an 
irony that only a liberal, or a corpse, could miss.

Happy solstice,

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tombrown@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu wrote:
> 
> I just saw this. What does Knut Hamsun have to do with this thread?
> 

The original thread dealt with, I believe, Communism, the John Birch 
Society, and the "civil rights" movement. I posted an article documenting 
some of the claims of the John Birch Society (of which I am not a 
member).

For doing so, an individual named Arne Carlsten, attacked me as a 
supposed "nazi," and stated, among other things, that he wished me to be 
dead by shooting, poison, stabbing, and perhaps a few other methods (Do a 
search at http://www.dejanews.com/ if you want to access the full thread; 
I can't remember all the various ways I was supposed to die.).

He further stated that he and his military buddies had thrown the corpses 
of "people like" me "in the sea" and would be happy to do the same to 
mine. He made reference to my Scandinavian surname in his hate-rant, so I 
asked him if he felt the same way about Knut Hamsun, and had he done any 
such violence to his body. Carlsten's answer, while not entirely 
responsive, indicated to me that he wished he had.

If you are really interested in the pathology and intolerance of 
Carlsten, and are not familiar with the use of Deja News, I would be 
happy to email you the posts in question.

Of course, since then, the thread has drifted even further from my 
original points.

Happy solstice and good wishes,


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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun 21 10:20:17 PDT 1996
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Knut Hamsun was one of Norway's greatest writers.

Like American writers Ezra Pound and William Joyce, Hamsun was 
sympathetic to the Anti-Comintern powers during the War To Impose The New 
World Order, and so is now either hated or has his life bowdlerized by 
the Commissars of Culture at our universities.

The boobs, it goes without saying, are kept almost totally unaware of his 
existence; as they are of so many other things.

With all good wishes and happy solstice,

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun 21 10:33:38 PDT 1996
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Shawn Hinkle wrote:
> 
> From "Birchism Was My Business" by Gerald Schomp, 1970....
> Me: Stop me if I'm wrong.  As conservatives we uphold the U.S. Constitution and
> full protection of the rights of the individual even against the society as a
> whole.
> 
> Them: Sure 'nuff.  We're libertarians and individualists.
> 
> Me: As solid supporters of the free enterprise system, we believe that a man's
> property is his own treasure and he is at liberty to use it as he wishes.
> 
> Them: True! True!  We're capitalists.  A man's home is his castle.  He can do
> whatever he wants with it as long as he doesn't anybody else's rights.
> 
> Me: Righto!  That means of course that if a man decides to sell his house to a
> Negro that's his right.
> 
> Them: Whow there!  You mean a white man in our neighborhood is selling to a
> nigger?
> 
> Me: Correct!  That's his privelege, huh fellow conservatives and constitutionalists?
> 
> Them:  He can't do that in our neighborhood!
> ...

Of course, _now_ it _is_ illegal to sell (or rent) your property to 
whomever you choose -- if a member of a protected class wants it, your 
wishes count for nothing. In stark fact, freedom of association and 
contract have been baldly abrogated by the Soviet-style "civil rights" 
laws and edicts from the Revolutionary Tribunal which, for some reason or 
other, still calls itself the "Supreme Court."

The example above is dishonest in that it implies that many White 
Americans in the 1960s were anxious and eager to sell their properties to 
Blacks, but were being legally prevented from doing so by "racist" laws. 
I can assure you that such was not the case. In fact, there was 
considerable resistance to housing "integration," and even today it is 
only the threat of fines and imprisonment by federal tyrants that keeps 
Whites from contractually preferring their own on a massive scale. (They 
still _do_ prefer their own on a massive scale, of course, using the only 
method left to them by the Commissars in occupied Washington: flight.)

"A man's property is his own treasure and he is at liberty to use it as 
he wishes" used as a slogan to justify forced association partakes of an 
irony that only a liberal, or a corpse, could miss.

Happy solstice,

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun 21 10:57:44 PDT 1996
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James R. Olson, jr. wrote:
> ...
> Whitaker, Strom, et al seem to want to bring Serbia here.  Tribalism
> worked when the only tribe you had to worry about was the one across
> the river, but we now have dealings with the whole world, and
> incidentally, the whole world is coming down on the Serbs, even if it
> is a little slowly.
> 

It was the ruling element among the Serbs (though certainly not a 
majority of Serbs) who, aligned with the Soviet Union, fought 
hardest against the devolution of "Yugoslavia" into its component parts 
and established themselves and various traitors from the other 
ethnicities as a ruling Communist elite there.

"Yugoslavia" was a multi-ethnic empire which oppressed the national 
aspirations of all its subjects. It was this decades-long suppression and 
the continued power of those who would like to see it return in full 
force that are the cause of the carnage there now.

The desire of Serbs, Croats, Bosnians, et al., for their own 
self-determination and freedom to live in their own state is not the 
cause of the carnage and death.

It is the desire for ethnic self-determination that I support. I oppose 
multi-ethnic empires, which are by their very nature oppressive and 
always end up as de facto if not de jure "supremacist" regimes of one 
kind or another. The multi-ethnic road is the one that Yugoslavia took, 
and the one which America is now taking (in a much, much bigger way, of 
course). The result is usually the same.

I advocate self-determination and self-rule for all who consider 
themselves a people. This, of course, includes White Americans.

With all good wishes, even to those who hate and malign me,


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tombrown@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu wrote:
> 
> I just saw this. What does Knut Hamsun have to do with this thread?
> 

The original thread dealt with, I believe, Communism, the John Birch 
Society, and the "civil rights" movement. I posted an article documenting 
some of the claims of the John Birch Society (of which I am not a 
member).

For doing so, an individual named Arne Carlsten, attacked me as a 
supposed "nazi," and stated, among other things, that he wished me to be 
dead by shooting, poison, stabbing, and perhaps a few other methods (Do a 
search at http://www.dejanews.com/ if you want to access the full thread; 
I can't remember all the various ways I was supposed to die.).

He further stated that he and his military buddies had thrown the corpses 
of "people like" me "in the sea" and would be happy to do the same to 
mine. He made reference to my Scandinavian surname in his hate-rant, so I 
asked him if he felt the same way about Knut Hamsun, and had he done any 
such violence to his body. Carlsten's answer, while not entirely 
responsive, indicated to me that he wished he had.

If you are really interested in the pathology and intolerance of 
Carlsten, and are not familiar with the use of Deja News, I would be 
happy to email you the posts in question.

Of course, since then, the thread has drifted even further from my 
original points.

Happy solstice and good wishes,


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Knut Hamsun was one of Norway's greatest writers.

Like American writers Ezra Pound and William Joyce, Hamsun was 
sympathetic to the Anti-Comintern powers during the War To Impose The New 
World Order, and so is now either hated or has his life bowdlerized by 
the Commissars of Culture at our universities.

The boobs, it goes without saying, are kept almost totally unaware of his 
existence; as they are of so many other things.

With all good wishes and happy solstice,

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun 21 12:07:19 PDT 1996
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Arachne wrote:
> 
> Why is it that blacks and hispanics complain that they want
> job equality? If that were true, they would have been able to get
> jobs with the previous test standards in place.  However, because
> of their mental inequality, test standards were lowered to allow
> them to pass.  Therefore, in lieu of the sub-standard exams and
> the necessity to hire minorities, we suffer with sub-standard
> police officers, firemen, paramedics, etc.
> 
> Inadvertently, what the blacks and hispanics have told us is that
> they are not our equal.  Unfortunatley for them, they are too dumb
> to realize what they have done.
> 
> Arachne (concerned NY mom)
> 

Dear Arachne:

You are right, of course. But the Blacks and so-called "Hispanics" (most 
of whom are very remote from Spain in every sense, especially 
genetically) are not the authors of the "equality" swindle. They are just 
suckers like the Whites, playing their part in a game the real name of 
which is genocide.

The real goal was never equality; just as was true in the Soviet Union. 
The real goal is to take our money; take our property; take our freedom 
of association; take our right to keep and bear arms; take our country; 
and, having taken everything we need to survive as a people, not least 
our identity of _being a people_, destroy us utterly.

That is what it was all about from the beginning. It never had anything 
to do with "tolerance" or "prejudice" or "brotherhood." That was 
just sucker bait. W. C. Fields stated that "you can't cheat an honest 
man," and the corollary is "if a people are so stupid as not only to 
allow but to fund and to enthusiastically support their own destruction, 
then they deserve everything they get."

Time will tell what White Americans are made of.

With all good wishes,



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Arachne wrote:
> 
> Why is it that blacks and hispanics complain that they want
> job equality? If that were true, they would have been able to get
> jobs with the previous test standards in place.  However, because
> of their mental inequality, test standards were lowered to allow
> them to pass.  Therefore, in lieu of the sub-standard exams and
> the necessity to hire minorities, we suffer with sub-standard
> police officers, firemen, paramedics, etc.
> 
> Inadvertently, what the blacks and hispanics have told us is that
> they are not our equal.  Unfortunatley for them, they are too dumb
> to realize what they have done.
> 
> Arachne (concerned NY mom)
> 

Dear Arachne:

You are right, of course. But the Blacks and so-called "Hispanics" (most 
of whom are very remote from Spain in every sense, especially 
genetically) are not the authors of the "equality" swindle. They are just 
suckers like the Whites, playing their part in a game the real name of 
which is genocide.

The real goal was never equality; just as was true in the Soviet Union. 
The real goal is to take our money; take our property; take our freedom 
of association; take our right to keep and bear arms; take our country; 
and, having taken everything we need to survive as a people, not least 
our identity of _being a people_, destroy us utterly.

That is what it was all about from the beginning. It never had anything 
to do with "tolerance" or "prejudice" or "brotherhood." That was 
just sucker bait. W. C. Fields stated that "you can't cheat an honest 
man," and the corollary is "if a people are so stupid as not only to 
allow but to fund and to enthusiastically support their own destruction, 
then they deserve everything they get."

Time will tell what White Americans are made of.

With all good wishes,



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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun 21 12:10:23 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: Finnish, Estonians, Hungarians - what about them?
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Eugene Holman wrote:
> ...
> 
> According to dedicated racialists, Finns, Estonians, and especially
> Hungarians are 'white trash', in the same class as Irishmen, Poles,
> Russians, Italians, Frenchmen, Romanians, Greeks, and other people who are
> 'white' but not 'White'.


Wrong. I like to think that your humble correspondent is a "dedicated 
racialist," and all the nationalities above are as White as White 
Americans.

Let's see, according to what you claim "dedicated racialists" believe, 
National Socialist leader Ferenc Szalasi was not White; Timothy Leary was 
not White; John Kennedy was not White; G. Gordon Liddy is not White; 
Dostoievsky was not White; Tchaikovsky was not White; Guiseppe Verdi was 
not White; Gugliemo Marconi was not White; Chopin was not White; the Pope 
is not White -- need I go on?

And, Eugene, many's the time we "dedicated racialists" have burned our 
candles long after midnight discussing the "Estonian threat." Are you 
posting your messages from an alternate universe, by any chance?

Your characterization of the movement for White survival is completely 
wrong, and may have been skewed by your encounter with East Coast 
faux-aristocrats, who, I suspect, may have shunned the poor Southern or 
Midwestern Anglo-Saxon as much as the "unpronoucable" Hungarian or the 
Negro.


> Remember the English saying "Wogs start at
> Calais".


The correct phrase is: "The race, they say, ends at Calais." Pure English 
jingoism and has nothing to do with the pro-White movement. Pat Buchanan 
tried to use that old verse on White racialist leader Gary Gallo a few 
years back on the television program "Crosfire." It didn't work then, 
either.


> The sure way to distinguish 'white' (= wog) from 'White' (=
> 'Aryan') is to examine the surname: 'unpronounceable' surnames ending in
> vowels can be 'white', but not 'White'. So simple is the world.
> 


You overestimate your mind-reading abilities, Eugene.

By the way, "wog" is a slang term standing for "Westernized Oriental 
Gentleman," and was used by the British when referring to Asians of the 
Indian subcontinent who had adopted British dress and manners. If you 
heard it used otherwise, you must have been slumming.

Happy solstice,


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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun 21 14:01:59 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: Warning: If I Die on the Jersey Front
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mboto@gnn.com wrote:
> 
>         I wish to warn potential readers who, like I, may have
> heard of a book which has recently been discussed on the Internet.
> It seems to have aquired a small cult following that has been
> promoting it in various newsgroups.
> 
>         This futuristic novel, "If I Die on the Jersey Front"
> (subtitled " A Story of America after the Split") follows the
> fortunes of a young white American woman stranded in a country
> formed by African-Americans who have seceded from the United
> States.
> 
>         Although portions of this novel are interesting and
> well-written and superficially appear to be an even-handed
> treatment
> of the seemingly insoluble race questions that beset the United
> States, the preposterous notion that African-Americans constitute a
> threat to the unity of this country is, in and of itself, racist.
> 
>         Furthermore, the idea that a white woman would have to skulk
> through a country run by African-Americans in fear of her life and
> constantly facing the danger of robbery or rape, promotes ancient
> stereotypes that have clouded the judgement of White Americans for
> centuries. Apparently the reviewers whose praise for this work is
> quoted on the book jacket were not bothered by this fact.
> 
>         I would strongly recommend that impressionable students be
> guided away from this book and that bookstores be encouraged not to
> carry it.
> 
> Yakubu M'Boto

You don't need to worry, M'Boto -- if the book has anything even nearly 
factual to say about multiracialism or integration, "impressionable 
students" will be "guided away" from it; and bookstores will be 
"encouraged" not to carry it.

It is curious, though, that "alt.politics.white-power" is now a forum 
where a person named "M'Boto" feels it appropriate to call for 
censorship-type activities against a pro-White book.

With all good wishes,


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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun 21 19:10:28 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: Pedophiles Burn Black Churches
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Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> 
> In article ,
> anonymous@newamericans.com (White Wolf) wrote:
> 
> > Let's get this straight....
> >
> > No one has mentioned that there were alot of pedophiles attending the
> > black churches that were mysteriously torched recently. There are many
> > proofs of this. (1) Many of the churches were in lonesome places where
> > children being molested could not be heard by neighbors.
> 
> This proves nothing about the identity of the arsonists.
> 
> > (2) The churches
> > were led by ministers. Remember Koresh? He was minister, too.
> 
> This proves nothing about the identity of the arsonists.
> 
> > (3) The FBI
> > is involved. Everytime the FBI is involved, someone who is being
> > investigated is a pedophile. (Remember ML King and his friends?
> > Pedophiles, all. Ask the FBI.)
> 
> "White Wolf" is incorrect. The FBI does not exclusively investigate
> pedophiles. Most such cases are within the jurisdiction of local law
> enforcement.
> 
> > (4) The church burned last week was burned
> > by a 13 year old white girl. Her reason? Probably that the black minister
> > forced her to have sex? (Wait and see on this one. If she goes free,
> > suspect  this first. Proof is not required. See FBI.)
> 
> "White Wolf" is incorrect. "Proof" is always required, and his
> speculations on the motive of the accused do not constitute proof.
> 
> > (5) Janet Reno is
> > personally involved in the investigation, so pedophilia charges cannot be
> > too far away.
> 
> "White Wolf" is speculating again. He has no evidence, so he resorts to
> the ancient ad hominem.
> 
> > (6) It is rumored that Janet Reno has recently discussed
> > placing disinformation onto the information highway suggesting that the
> > KKK wears sheets in order to hide the little girls underneath them.
> 
> Evidence, please, "White Wolf". We accept nothing simply because you say
> it is so.
> 
> JGB
> 
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown                                   jeff_brown@pol.com
>  "What's going to happen?"   "Something wonderful..."   -- '2010'

I thought that White Wolf's ironic post on the Black church/Mount Carmel 
"parallel" was the funniest I had seen on this newsgroup.

I was wrong. Jeffrey G. Brown's post, which missed the point by several 
dozens of light years, is far funnier.

This definitely opens up the possibility that "Jeffrey G. Brown" is an 
autoresponder, not an actual person, and hence unable to detect irony in 
its programmed "fight against racism." My advice: refine the code.

Happy solstice,

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri Jun 21 19:10:29 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: Pedophiles Burn Black Churches
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Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> 
> In article ,
> whiteheart@patriotic.com (White Flame) wrote:
> 
> > In article ,
> > anonymous@newamericans.com (White Wolf) wrote:
> >
> > > Let's get this straight....
> > >
> > > No one has mentioned that there were alot of pedophiles attending the
> > > black churches that were mysteriously torched recently. There are many
> > > proofs of this. (1) Many of the churches were in lonesome places where
> > > children being molested could not be heard by neighbors. (2) The churches
> > > were led by ministers. Remember Koresh? He was minister, too. (3) The FBI
> > > is involved. Everytime the FBI is involved, someone who is being
> > > investigated is a pedophile. (Remember ML King and his friends?
> > > Pedophiles, all. Ask the FBI.) (4) The church burned last week was burned
> > > by a 13 year old white girl. Her reason? Probably that the black minister
> > > forced her to have sex? (Wait and see on this one. If she goes free,
> > > suspect  this first. Proof is not required. See FBI.) (5) Janet Reno is
> > > personally involved in the investigation, so pedophilia charges cannot be
> > > too far away. (6) It is rumored that Janet Reno has recently discussed
> > > placing disinformation onto the information highway suggesting that the
> > > KKK wears sheets in order to hide the little girls underneath them.
> > >
> > > Did you understand this? Good. Next....
> >
> > Oh, yea. I get it. Oh, yea. I get it.
> 
> "White Wolf" now resorts to agreeing with himself under yet another
> pseudonym, in order to make it appear that someone else -- anyone else --
> shares his delusions.
> 
> JGB
> 
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown                                   jeff_brown@pol.com
>  "What's going to happen?"   "Something wonderful..."   -- '2010'

The fact that "Jeffrey G. Brown" still doesn't understand White Wolf's 
hilarious post -- after reading it twice -- speaks volumes.

Recompile.

With all good wishes and happy solstice,


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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Sun Jun 23 11:18:14 PDT 1996
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Rajiv K. Gandhi wrote:
....
> Jimmy Swaggart - that bastion of white pride who
> consorted with a prostitute, then 'confessed' on TV after he was revealed
> to be a hypocrite, then did it again ?


I don't know the quote, or the context in which Jimmy Swaggart was 
quoted. But since televangelism-ology is a favorite hobby of mine (where 
would we be without con men and kooks to make us laugh from time to 
time?), I can offer a little insight.

Swaggart is not a "bastion of white pride." He is an anti-"racist" who is 
philo-Judaic to the point of stomach upset, and who regularly featured 
Blacks on his television beg-fests.

I would estimate his IQ to be about 90, but he is a genius when it comes 
to giving the boobs what they want.

An acquaintance of mine was at one time the general manager of a 
religious broadcast station in a major metropolitan area. He was 
approached by "Jimmy"'s people about taking on the Swaggart program, and 
was invited to tour their facilities in Baton Rouge.

He was extremely impressed by the size of the operation, which was then 
at its peak (pre-whore days) and rivalled some military bases in scale 
and security. A huge, auditorium-sized room was devoted exclusively to 
the most important function on the premises: scores of girls, slitting 
open envelopes and extracting the cash, checks, and money orders 
therefrom.

He witnessed the arrival of a large tractor-trailer filled nearly to 
overflowing with mail from the "faithful" and was told that at least one 
such arrived at the loading dock every day, six days per week.

The daily take: about $750,000.

Which just goes to show that H. L. Mencken was right when he observed 
that no one ever went broke underestimating the taste and discernment of 
the American public.

I am sure that anti-"racist" Jimmy is not suffering even though his 
network is now much diminished after his expensive dalliances with 
"ladies" of the night.

With all good wishes and halle-loo-le-ah,

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Craig Lambert wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 20 Jun 1996 00:11:28 -0700, Kevin Alfred Strom
>  wrote:
> ...
> 
> >It is the desire for ethnic self-determination that I support. I oppose
> >multi-ethnic empires, which are by their very nature oppressive and
> >always end up as de facto if not de jure "supremacist" regimes of one
> >kind or another. The multi-ethnic road is the one that Yugoslavia took,
> >and the one which America is now taking (in a much, much bigger way, of
> >course). The result is usually the same.
> >
> Pure bullshit.  The Yugoslavs could have lived together in peace for
> however many more decades...


.... however many more decades they were willing to live as slaves to a 
Communist tyranny.



> the people living there refused to heed the evil
> machinations and fear-mongering ploys of the criminals among them who
> called for driving out their neighbors, for seizing their land, for
> 'earning our nations rightful place in the sun,' for dynamiting their
> churches, killing their men, raping their women, shooting at anything that
> moved, waging war on their neighbor.  Not one square inch of Yugoslavia is
> richer or more prosperous than it was before their civil war began.
> Turning your own country into a war zone is the ultimate stupidity, and any
> ideology that tries to justify the bloodshed or gloss over the pain is an
> evil fraud.
> 
> >I advocate self-determination and self-rule for all who consider
> >themselves a people. This, of course, includes White Americans.
> >
> And I advocate that we as a people in this country determine that we will
> never allow the divisive dreams of men who preach war and advocate
> bloodshed in quiet tones, with lies and distortions and encouragement of
> ignorance, to become real here in OUR home.
> 


My, my, what would Lambert have thought of "criminals" like Samuel Adams 
and Thomas Jefferson and George Washington? Separatists all, and in more 
ways than one.

Remember, much of the raping, killing, et cetera, in the former 
Yugoslavia is being done by those who would like to reimpose their rule 
such as obtained under the "federal" Yugoslavia.

Homogeneous states don't have ethnic conflict. Ethnic conflict is caused 
when groups that would rather not live together are forced to do so. It 
is not the desire for freedom and self-determination which is the cause 
of the carnage in the Balkans; it is the long years of oppression by 
multiethnic empires; it is solutions deferred for centuries; it is 
justice denied for centuries; and it is a long train of abuses which 
these people cannot forget. Before "Yugoslavia" there was the Ottoman 
Empire, of which Lambert is apparently unaware.

In their music, in their political manifestoes, and out of the mouths of 
their leaders; it is clear beyond any but willful mistaking that American 
Blacks do not want to live in White society, under the laws and mores 
that are congenial to those of European descent. And Whites return the 
sentiment, perhaps not yet so vocally, but by voting with their feet. 
They do not want to live in a society in which Black values and mores are 
the norm.

It is only reasonable and prudent that the two nations separate. Those 
incurably enamored of racial mixing could have someplace to freely 
indulge in their terminal fixation; I certainly don't care as long they 
don't threaten my people or prevent their emigration.

Despite what Lambert claims, I deplore violence and bloodshed. Because 
you do not know me and may judge me by what Lambert dreams up, I will 
tell you that I am a vegetarian for moral reasons. I teach my children 
not to hurt any living thing unless absolutely necessary -- including 
insects. I wish no harm to any of my fellow creatures, and that includes 
men and women of other races.

I have worked for twenty years in the radio broadcasting business, 
several of them as chief engineer or consultant for Black-run radio 
stations. I had good relationships with most of the Black managers and 
employees; and even learned a lot from the Black nationalists I met in 
the business. I also did some work with an Asian group that put up a 
subcarrier station on one of my client's transmitters -- and learned 
quite a bit about their outlook on life and race by working with them. 
Needless to say, in that business, I worked with many Jews, some of whom 
conducted themselves as gentlemen.

I do see violence in the future, unfortunately: the violence that always 
accompanies forced multiracialism. Racial separatism is the only way to 
avoid that fate.

Remember, multiracial empires almost always end up as de facto or de jure 
supremacist regimes. (Supremacist meaning rule or domination by one 
racial group over the other[s].) There has never been a peaceful, 
harmonious, color-blind multiracial society. Why assume that there could 
be such a thing, when all the evidence is against it?

With all good wishes,


-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

-----------------------------------------------------------
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                  http://www.natall.com/


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Sun Jun 23 11:58:13 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: PART III--benny FREEDMAN spoke out
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Craig Lambert wrote:

> 
> On 16 Jun 1996 17:57:19 GMT, EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) wrote:
> ...
> >
> >Subject: Benjamin H. Freedman Speaks part 3
> >...
> >
> So deviously in fact that this looks like a complete and hopelessly
> unprovable lie.  For about the 20th time I'd like one of you mighty-righty
> supposedly-know-somethings to explain the Chinese and Korean and Japanese
> and other Asiatic and African communist parties and communist governments
> in terms of a Jewish controlled conspiracy.  You always slink away in
> embarrassed silence when the topic is brought up.  Its a hole the size of a
> country with a billion people in your entire moronic thesis. Explain how
> the Chinese communist party is controlled by and for the interests of Jews.
> Name names and give dates.  Draw links and establish causal connections.
> You frigging can't do it, and it throws your whole asinine plot theory
> right into the crapper!
> 


I have never claimed, nor have I ever heard anyone else claim, that the 
avowedly Communist governments and parties of Asia and Africa were led by 
Jews. Bolshevism was almost a Jewish closed shop at the beginning, yes, 
but once it proved to be a winning method of taking power and pulling the 
wool over the eyes of the victims, it was adopted by many pragmatic 
politicians of all races.


....
> 
> >  Did I know it? I had a pretty good idea of what was going on: I was
> >liaison to Henry Morgenthau, Sr., in the 1912 campaign, when President
> >Wilson was elected, and there was talk around the office there. I was
> >"confidential man" to Henry Morgenthau, Sr., who was chair- man of the
> >finance committee, and I was liaison between him and Rollo Wells, the
> >treasurer. So I sat in these meetings with President Wilson at the head
> >of
> >the table, and all the others, and I heard them drum into President
> >Wilson's
> >brain the graduated income tax and what has become the Federal Reserve,
> >and
> >I heard them indoctrinate him with the Zionist movement. Justice
> >Brandeis
> >and President Wilson were just as close as the two fingers on this hand.
> >President Woodrow Wilson was just as incompe- tent when it came to
> >determining what was  going on  as  newborn baby.
> >
> This is like the JBS 'insiders,' right'?  Woodrow Wilson, a good man led
> astray by the devious Joos.  Wilson actually tried very hard to keep us out
> of the War, but German arrogance and diplomatic and military blundering
> pulled us in.
> ...
> 
> As history, this Khazar stuff is truly lunatic.  There is a well documented
> (as well as anything else in days when Europe was barely literate, but also
> physical evidence) that there were Jews living continuously in Europe from
> the fall of the Roman Empire(and before, naturally) on, who through
> movements and changes which are not mysterious, become early modern Jewish
> populations living throughout Europe, including eastern Europe. 92% of the
> Jews are not really Jews, but something else?  Even were this so, after how
> many hundreds of years of pretending to be Jews would it take before such
> people would become jews?  This is a powerful set of beliefs: it molds
> people who are taught it, who study the books and absorb the ways of
> learning it teaches.  If you believe in the god who wrote the book that
> they read, how could they be students of it for generations without being
> won over, how could the Jews not be Jews?
> 
> I take it there is some simple blood/genetic/skull shape/facial
> features/earwax/baby blue-butt test that can be applied to determine which
> of the 8 percent of the Jews are 'really' Jews?
> 
> I guess this is Identity Christianity, or some 'British Israelite' fantasy?
> This theory would seem to be necessary to persons with a truly twisted
> religious bent, to explain away various scriptural and prophetic passages
> of the bible regarding Jews, to the effect that Jews aren't really Jews,
> but someone else is the 'chosen people'.  That's the kind of convoluted
> nonsense you have to buy into when you combine hate, paranoia, and myth and
> try to form a world-view.
> ...

The most famous proponent of the idea that a significant portion of 
modern Jewry are of Khazar descent was Arthur Koestler, a Jew and far 
>from  a right-winger. His book on this subject is _The Thirteenth Tribe_.

The individual being quoted in the message that Lambert was responding to 
was a Jewish convert to Roman Catholicism, Benjamin H. Freedman. Freedman 
(in this 1961 speech) was not, of course, trying to say who were "true 
Jews" at all: he was merely pointing out the fact that many Jews of today 
have no more claim to have had ancestors from ancient Israel than does 
Hilary Clinton.

Freedman is significant because he was a defector from the Judaeo-Marxist 
political machine which has been so successful in remaking America in its 
own image. If anyone is interested in receiving a full copy of Freedman's 
speech, including biographical information, just send me an e-mail.

Happy Summer,


-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Sun Jun 23 12:16:08 PDT 1996
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Craig Lambert wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 20 Jun 1996 00:11:28 -0700, Kevin Alfred Strom
>  wrote:
> ...
> 
> >It is the desire for ethnic self-determination that I support. I oppose
> >multi-ethnic empires, which are by their very nature oppressive and
> >always end up as de facto if not de jure "supremacist" regimes of one
> >kind or another. The multi-ethnic road is the one that Yugoslavia took,
> >and the one which America is now taking (in a much, much bigger way, of
> >course). The result is usually the same.
> >
> Pure bullshit.  The Yugoslavs could have lived together in peace for
> however many more decades...


.... however many more decades they were willing to live as slaves to a 
Communist tyranny.



> the people living there refused to heed the evil
> machinations and fear-mongering ploys of the criminals among them who
> called for driving out their neighbors, for seizing their land, for
> 'earning our nations rightful place in the sun,' for dynamiting their
> churches, killing their men, raping their women, shooting at anything that
> moved, waging war on their neighbor.  Not one square inch of Yugoslavia is
> richer or more prosperous than it was before their civil war began.
> Turning your own country into a war zone is the ultimate stupidity, and any
> ideology that tries to justify the bloodshed or gloss over the pain is an
> evil fraud.
> 
> >I advocate self-determination and self-rule for all who consider
> >themselves a people. This, of course, includes White Americans.
> >
> And I advocate that we as a people in this country determine that we will
> never allow the divisive dreams of men who preach war and advocate
> bloodshed in quiet tones, with lies and distortions and encouragement of
> ignorance, to become real here in OUR home.
> 


My, my, what would Lambert have thought of "criminals" like Samuel Adams 
and Thomas Jefferson and George Washington? Separatists all, and in more 
ways than one.

Remember, much of the raping, killing, et cetera, in the former 
Yugoslavia is being done by those who would like to reimpose their rule 
such as obtained under the "federal" Yugoslavia.

Homogeneous states don't have ethnic conflict. Ethnic conflict is caused 
when groups that would rather not live together are forced to do so. It 
is not the desire for freedom and self-determination which is the cause 
of the carnage in the Balkans; it is the long years of oppression by 
multiethnic empires; it is solutions deferred for centuries; it is 
justice denied for centuries; and it is a long train of abuses which 
these people cannot forget. Before "Yugoslavia" there was the Ottoman 
Empire, of which Lambert is apparently unaware.

In their music, in their political manifestoes, and out of the mouths of 
their leaders; it is clear beyond any but willful mistaking that American 
Blacks do not want to live in White society, under the laws and mores 
that are congenial to those of European descent. And Whites return the 
sentiment, perhaps not yet so vocally, but by voting with their feet. 
They do not want to live in a society in which Black values and mores are 
the norm.

It is only reasonable and prudent that the two nations separate. Those 
incurably enamored of racial mixing could have someplace to freely 
indulge in their terminal fixation; I certainly don't care as long they 
don't threaten my people or prevent their emigration.

Despite what Lambert claims, I deplore violence and bloodshed. Because 
you do not know me and may judge me by what Lambert dreams up, I will 
tell you that I am a vegetarian for moral reasons. I teach my children 
not to hurt any living thing unless absolutely necessary -- including 
insects. I wish no harm to any of my fellow creatures, and that includes 
men and women of other races.

I have worked for twenty years in the radio broadcasting business, 
several of them as chief engineer or consultant for Black-run radio 
stations. I had good relationships with most of the Black managers and 
employees; and even learned a lot from the Black nationalists I met in 
the business. I also did some work with an Asian group that put up a 
subcarrier station on one of my client's transmitters -- and learned 
quite a bit about their outlook on life and race by working with them. 
Needless to say, in that business, I worked with many Jews, some of whom 
conducted themselves as gentlemen.

I do see violence in the future, unfortunately: the violence that always 
accompanies forced multiracialism. Racial separatism is the only way to 
avoid that fate.

Remember, multiracial empires almost always end up as de facto or de jure 
supremacist regimes. (Supremacist meaning rule or domination by one 
racial group over the other[s].) There has never been a peaceful, 
harmonious, color-blind multiracial society. Why assume that there could 
be such a thing, when all the evidence is against it?

With all good wishes,


-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

-----------------------------------------------------------
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                The Finest in European Art:
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                  http://www.natvan.com/
                  http://www.natall.com/


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Sun Jun 23 12:50:04 PDT 1996
Article: 99808 of alt.politics.radical-left
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Craig Lambert wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 20 Jun 1996 00:11:28 -0700, Kevin Alfred Strom
>  wrote:
> ...
> 
> >It is the desire for ethnic self-determination that I support. I oppose
> >multi-ethnic empires, which are by their very nature oppressive and
> >always end up as de facto if not de jure "supremacist" regimes of one
> >kind or another. The multi-ethnic road is the one that Yugoslavia took,
> >and the one which America is now taking (in a much, much bigger way, of
> >course). The result is usually the same.
> >
> Pure bullshit.  The Yugoslavs could have lived together in peace for
> however many more decades...


.... however many more decades they were willing to live as slaves to a 
Communist tyranny.



> the people living there refused to heed the evil
> machinations and fear-mongering ploys of the criminals among them who
> called for driving out their neighbors, for seizing their land, for
> 'earning our nations rightful place in the sun,' for dynamiting their
> churches, killing their men, raping their women, shooting at anything that
> moved, waging war on their neighbor.  Not one square inch of Yugoslavia is
> richer or more prosperous than it was before their civil war began.
> Turning your own country into a war zone is the ultimate stupidity, and any
> ideology that tries to justify the bloodshed or gloss over the pain is an
> evil fraud.
> 
> >I advocate self-determination and self-rule for all who consider
> >themselves a people. This, of course, includes White Americans.
> >
> And I advocate that we as a people in this country determine that we will
> never allow the divisive dreams of men who preach war and advocate
> bloodshed in quiet tones, with lies and distortions and encouragement of
> ignorance, to become real here in OUR home.
> 


My, my, what would Lambert have thought of "criminals" like Samuel Adams 
and Thomas Jefferson and George Washington? Separatists all, and in more 
ways than one.

Remember, much of the raping, killing, et cetera, in the former 
Yugoslavia is being done by those who would like to reimpose their rule 
such as obtained under the "federal" Yugoslavia.

Homogeneous states don't have ethnic conflict. Ethnic conflict is caused 
when groups that would rather not live together are forced to do so. It 
is not the desire for freedom and self-determination which is the cause 
of the carnage in the Balkans; it is the long years of oppression by 
multiethnic empires; it is solutions deferred for centuries; it is 
justice denied for centuries; and it is a long train of abuses which 
these people cannot forget. Before "Yugoslavia" there was the Ottoman 
Empire, of which Lambert is apparently unaware.

In their music, in their political manifestoes, and out of the mouths of 
their leaders; it is clear beyond any but willful mistaking that American 
Blacks do not want to live in White society, under the laws and mores 
that are congenial to those of European descent. And Whites return the 
sentiment, perhaps not yet so vocally, but by voting with their feet. 
They do not want to live in a society in which Black values and mores are 
the norm.

It is only reasonable and prudent that the two nations separate. Those 
incurably enamored of racial mixing could have someplace to freely 
indulge in their terminal fixation; I certainly don't care as long they 
don't threaten my people or prevent their emigration.

Despite what Lambert claims, I deplore violence and bloodshed. Because 
you do not know me and may judge me by what Lambert dreams up, I will 
tell you that I am a vegetarian for moral reasons. I teach my children 
not to hurt any living thing unless absolutely necessary -- including 
insects. I wish no harm to any of my fellow creatures, and that includes 
men and women of other races.

I have worked for twenty years in the radio broadcasting business, 
several of them as chief engineer or consultant for Black-run radio 
stations. I had good relationships with most of the Black managers and 
employees; and even learned a lot from the Black nationalists I met in 
the business. I also did some work with an Asian group that put up a 
subcarrier station on one of my client's transmitters -- and learned 
quite a bit about their outlook on life and race by working with them. 
Needless to say, in that business, I worked with many Jews, some of whom 
conducted themselves as gentlemen.

I do see violence in the future, unfortunately: the violence that always 
accompanies forced multiracialism. Racial separatism is the only way to 
avoid that fate.

Remember, multiracial empires almost always end up as de facto or de jure 
supremacist regimes. (Supremacist meaning rule or domination by one 
racial group over the other[s].) There has never been a peaceful, 
harmonious, color-blind multiracial society. Why assume that there could 
be such a thing, when all the evidence is against it?

With all good wishes,


-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

-----------------------------------------------------------
      Resource list; not all are affiliated with me;
                  I speak only for myself:

                 Occupied America Homepage:
      http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/america/

     Information on Amateur Radio Operations on 3950 kHz:
            http://www.usaor.net/users/mckinney/

                The Finest in European Art:
      http://www.telecall.co.uk/~synergy/gframing/cat2.html

                   Patriotic Resistance:
                  http://www.natvan.com/
                  http://www.natall.com/


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Thu Jun 27 07:33:07 PDT 1996
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The liberals are amazing people. They like to pride themselves on their 
liberation from primitive fundamentalist religion and the stultifying 
hierarchies and restrictions of tradition. They embrace science and 
progress.

They freely acknowledge the general scientific validity of evolutionary 
theory. They laugh, at least in private, at the absurd religionists who 
deny the idea of gradual genetic change bringing about all the forms of 
life we see today.

They thereby implicitly affirm that the form of every structure, every 
organ, of every living being is determined by its genetic code.

The flipper of the dolphin, the eggs of the robin, the structure of 
phytoplankton -- all determined primarily and fundamentally by genetic 
structure. The inherited behavioral characteristics of animals, so often 
crucial for their survival in various environments, are also freely 
acknowledged.

When it comes to man, they freely acknowledge that his hair form, eye 
color, nose shape, limb length, and even susceptibility to various 
diseases are all inherited characteristics, determined by his genetic 
structure.

But! ...when it comes to _one organ_ of _one species_ -- the human brain 
-- the liberal declares an exception. The function of the brain simply 
_can't_ be genetically determined! The human brain's functions are 
_uniquely_ mutable by the environment. This is not too different from the 
religionist's assertion that there is an immaterial spirit that is the 
real seat of human personality. The liberals' one exception to the laws 
of genetics reeks of "magic," which one senses most strongly when they 
wax poetic over the "human dignity" possessed by mental defectives or 
cannibals because of some immaterial wonderful something that inheres in 
everything that is arguably human.

This exception will eventually be regarded, in my opinion, as a last 
holdout of the Biblical view that man is separate from and above the rest 
of Nature. For liberals have not really liberated themselves from 
Christianity at all. They have dispensed with God and the prophets, of 
course, but their baseless "all men are equal" religion is just the 
poisonous residue of the irrational Middle Eastern religion that they 
think they have rejected.

With all good wishes,

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D. Braun wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
> 
> > D. Braun wrote:
> > > ...
> > > By the way, whiteboy, dija know that we were all descended from
> > > hominids with dark skin, that were covered with fur and ate their food
> > > raw?
> > >
> > >                 Dave Braun
> > >
> >
> > The color of their skin is unknown, but the general thrust of what you
> > say is correct.
> >
> > You did, however, fail to note that, since then, some races have evolved
> > further than others.
> 
> Nope. You are ignorant of hoe evolution actually works. The evolutionary
> process tends to preserve adaptations that increase the liklyhood of
> successful reproduction.  The gene for sickle cell anemia confers
> resistance to malaria; however, when both recessive alleles are present,
> sickle cell anemia a potentially fatal disease (hitting before
> reproductive age) can occur.  In those people with ONE allele for the
> disease, they have a better chance at reproduction. Europeans, however,
> don't have these genes, and all are at risk of contracting
> malaria, potentially fatal in children, the sick and elderly.  So there
> you have it--- evolution has favored Africans in regard to malaria--- they
> are "better" able to resist it than you.  This does not make them "more
> advanced" because of evolution, just better adapted in regards to
> resistance to this disease.  Evolution says nothing about what is "better"
> in the sense you mean.  Got it, numbskull? By the way, hate is learned,
> not inherited; otherwise I would wish for you to go to a high malaria area
> without anti-malarial drugs, Mr. white supremacist loser.
> 
>                 Dave Braun


You used the words "more advanced" and "better" in this thread, not I. I 
said "since then, some races have evolved further than others." Further 
just implies a greater degree of difference from the common parent stock. 
(By the way, _if_ you are right about our pre-human ancestors having dark 
skin, then it would suggest that Whites have indeed "evolved further" in 
that characteristic than Blacks.) Leaving aside the emotional issue 
(apparently for you, at least, considering your gratuitous insults) of 
Europeans and Congoids, let us compare two other races, North Asians and 
Australoids. North Asians have the largest average cranial capacity of 
any race; Australoids the lowest. Anyone who has seen pictures of 
pure-blooded Australoids will recall the heavy brow-ridges, projecting 
jaws, and usually sloping foreheads of the race. North Asians possess the 
diametric opposite of each of these characteristics. The Australoid jaw 
is massive compared to the North Asian's, and his teeth are much larger.

Now: Knowing what we know about our pre-human ancestors, which race has 
evolved further, the North Asian or the Australoid?

The answer does not necessarily imply a value judgement. Survival, not 
self-esteem, is what will be the ultimate arbiter of superiority or 
inferiority. It may be that the Negro's fecundity will be a better 
survival tool than the frontal lobe development of the European; or that 
the adaptation of the Australoid will be more congenial to survival in an 
unknown future than the "further evolved" North Asian.

But to pretend that the races are somehow "equal" seems to me ridiculous 
on its face.

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Kimberley Ahlf wrote:
> ...
> 
> Now, you can address my points:
> 
> Where is the proof that black low-IQ is gene-based?
> 


Since virtually all differences between races, or between any living 
things, exist because of differences in the genetic code, it seems to me 
that the burden of proof ought to be on the other foot. We know that the 
differences between the races in skull thickness, facial angle, skin 
color, reaction to various disease organisms, limb length, etc., are 
genetic in origin. Why do we know that? Because we now know that _all_ 
physical characteristics -- short of some kind of injury, etc. -- are 
transmitted genetically. The brain's physical characteristics determine 
cognitive ability. Those physical characteristics are inherited. 
Therefore, it is the "social" explanations for lower Black cognitive 
ability that require the "proof."

Did studies need to be done to _prove_ that the difference in feather 
color (or their greatly different abilities, for that matter!) between 
the cardinal and the crow was genetic in origin? Once the reality of 
Mendelian inheritance was understood, was it reasonable to _require_ 
"detailed genetic histories of the subjects" to accept the genetic basis 
of this difference? Was it reasonable to advance the theory that 
something in their environment prevented the crow from having a nice 
bright red breast -- mistreatment at the hands of the eagles, perhaps?

Considering the durability and persistence of the Congoid IQ deficit, 
through decades of studies and widely different social environments; and 
considering the record of sub-Saharan Africa (or any area of the planet 
inhabited by a largely Congoid population) in any field of advanced human 
endeavor, which may be considered as a "real world" validation of the 
intelligence studies; I think that the belief that genes play a dominant 
role in the differences in average intelligence (and the frequency of 
individuals of very high intelligence) between the Black and White races 
is the only reasonable conclusion.

The resistance to this rather obvious conclusion is at its root 
religious. Acceptance of the obvious would necessitate junking the 
equalitarian "ideals" that underpin our current society. It would require 
a new moral paradigm. Such things are never achieved without 
great resistance from the boobs and the powers-that-be.



> Where in "The Bell Curve" are the detailed genetic histories of the
> studied subjects?
> 


Such a study would be interesting, and I am all for continued research, 
but such studies are not _necessary_ before we can reasonably conclude 
that racial differences in intelligence are genetically based.




> Where are the genes isolated which predict IQ and how are they linked to
> race?
> 


If equalitarian and dysgenic policies don't dumb us down too fast, I 
believe that one day we will be able to answer that question; though as 
you well know no one can answer it now. That, of course, does not mean 
that the question has no answer.


> If your science cannot answer those simple questions then your science
> is not qualified to draw genetic conclusions.
> 
> Note:
> 
> I can make the claim that low African-American IQ and the resultant low
> socio-economic performance is due to the fact that they live among
> racists.  That may not be true but at least I can identify and confirm
> the existence of the racists.


The Irish lived under a British rule that was often far from benevolent 
for centuries, and few would deny that they were suppressed, robbed, 
discriminated against, and virtually enslaved for long periods. This 
could also be said for other European peoples. It didn't seem to affect 
their IQ.

My European ancestors lived among ferocious predators, homicidal 
neighboring tribes, glaciers, landslides, and lots of things nastier than 
"racism" is supposed to be. Until the last millisecond in geologic time 
they had _no_ educational opportunities per se. In the midst of 
incredible privation and hardship a rigourous selection process occurred, 
resulting in the development of a high intelligence, which necessarily 
preceded its results: the grandeur of the Classical world and the 
shimmering technological wonders of today, and everything in between.

No, the "social privation" argument cuts no mustard with me, I'm afraid.

Honor bright,


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Eugene Holman wrote:
> 
> In article <4qleum$5c8@tribune.concentric.net>, "Ronald C. Schoedel"
>  wrote:
> ...
> > This is interesting.  You're saying Mr. Buchanan (http://www.buchanan.org
> > by the way) was a victim of racism?  Please correct me if I don't read
> > you right.
> 
> Yes. The same type of covert anti-Irish racism that was directed towards
> John F. Kennedy in 1960 and towards Al Smith back in the 1930s. Buchanan
> was characterized in the establishment media (Time, Newsweek,
> International Herald Tribune) as 'feisty', and 'pugnacious'. These are
> code words which have frequently been used when alluding to Irish drinking
> and street-fighting habits in years past. The Newsweek feature on Buchanan


Now _Newsweek_, published by Katherine Meyer Graham, a converted Jew, is 
part of the exclusivist Anglo-Saxon cabal??


> took pains to point out that he lives a few doors down from Colin Powell
> and Edward Kennedy, dropping the hint that he didn't have the social
> pedigree required to be able to live in an exclusive (remember what that
> word *really* means) 'White' neighborhood.
> 
> >
> > ANd what is this "white" and "White" stuff?  Is there anyone who seriously
> > believes there is a difference?  What is the basis for the differentiation?
> >
> 
> Essentially, 'White' equals WASP, White Anglo-Saxon Protestant, with some
> loopholes to allow long-skulled, fair-haired, blue-eyed, members of Dutch,
> Northern German, or Scandinavian (not Finnish or Lapp, though) ancestry
> who have adapted a WASP identity and whose *surnames do not end in vowel
> [sounds]*


_Now_ I finally understand the conspiracy against Nikola Tesla! Those 
damn vowel sounds!



> (German-Emerican Dwight Eisenhower and Norwegian-American Walter
> Mondale being good examples).
> 
> I first ran into the distinction between 'White' and 'white' during
> fraternity rushing at a major American university. The so-called 'White'
> houses would never have accepted a Pat Buchanan or any 'non-White' as a
> member. A study of American political and corporate leadership also shows
> that WASP males have had a virtual monopoly on power and privilege ever
> since the establishment of the United States.
> 
> > Pat Buchanan is an Irish Catholic, a fine upstanding member of the White
> > race, and is okay by me.  By the way, that's http://www.buchanan.org for his
> > website.
> >
> 
> *John F. Kennedy* was regarded by many as a fine upstanding member of the
> 'white', but not the 'White' race. His Irish Catholic background was used
> against him by his political opponents during the 1960s presidential
> campaign. The few non-Whites who have aspired to top political office in
> the United States have seen their careers sabotaged or their non-Whiteness
> made into a political issue. Examples I can think of off hand include
> former vice-president *Spiro Agnew* (Greek-American, forced to resign in
> disgrace because of a minor instance of corruption), Democratic aspirant
> to the nomination *Edmund Muskie* (Polish-American, who was merciless
> badgered by such dirty tricks as forged letters from Hubert Humphery
> alledging that his wife had been a prostitute and arriving at a Florida
> hotel on a campaign stop to find the lobby filled with a hundred
> prostitutes and several hundred pizzas which his entourage had supposedly
> ordered), Democratic vice-presidential candidate Italian-American
> *Geraldine Ferraro* (whose husband's rumored Mafia connections scotched
> her campaign), Greek-American *Michael Dukakis*, Democratic candidate for
> the presidency in 1988, whose ethnicity was made an issue. Ex-secretary of
> Labor *Arthur Goldberg*, who was Jewish, ex-governor of Massachusetts,
> *Edward Brooke* (African-American), the Italian-American governor of New
> York, *Mario Cuomo*, and retired chief of staff, Jamaican-American *Colin
> Powell* are all examples of people of proven capability and leadership who
> have either seen their careers derailed when they made bids to enter the
> top levels of the White power structure, or, as is the case with Mssrs.
> Cuomo and Powell, were wise enough dampen their supporters' hopes before
> being sacrificed on the altar of White Power.
> 


Hmmm. Seems to me the Anglo-Saxon cabal let them get pretty high in the 
power structure before dashing their hopes on the altar of White Power. 
Must have been their way of taking them by surprise. Hell, they even let 
Kennedy become President. But then... oh my god, I see it all now ...it 
was the Anglo-Saxon cabal that killed Kennedy so they could install that 
exemplar of White Anglo-Saxon power, Lyndon "Civil Rights Act" Johnson in 
his place.


> So, as far as access to the top echelons of American power are concerned,
> I stand by my claim that Pat Buchanan is 'white', but not 'White', and
> that innuendo to this effect was an important causative factor which
> resulted in the implosion of his bid for the Republican nomination.
> 
>...

Eugene Holman, you are not posting from Finland; you are posting from 
cloud-cuckoo-land.

Are you seriously asserting that an Anglo-Saxon cabal that was able to 
"scotch" the career of Spiro Agnew was also _unable_ to prevent him from 
rising to the Governorship of Maryland or from ascending to the 
Vice-Presidency of the United States?

Are you seriously asserting that the Anglo-Saxon cabal can "scotch" 
political careers but _cannot_ prevent a man like Michael Dukakis from 
being nominated for President by the largest political party in the 
United States? Wheeeeee! It's fun up here in the clouds!

Are you seriously asserting that if Dwight Eisenhower's name had ended in 
a vowel sound (like William McKinley's perhaps? or Hubert Humphrey's?) 
that he would have been unacceptable to his employers?

Are you seriously asserting that access to the very highest levels of 
Ameican power is denied to the likes of Pat Buchanan on the basis of his 
Irishness? Ignoring Ronald Reagan, let us consider the late President 
James Buchanan (1791 -1868) as described in the _Encyclopaedia 
Britannica_, Ninth Edition: "Born in Franklin County, Pennsylvania. His 
father, of the same name, was an Irishman who had eight years before 
emigrated from Donegal, and had become a well-to-do farmer."

Well, Eugene, I've heard some wild conspiracy theories in my time, but 
yours almost takes the cake. I rank it number two, right under the 
"Cosmos Seafood" conspiracy theory, the story of which I will regale 
you with some other time.

With good wishes to all, even Irishmen,

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Kimberley Ahlf wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
> 
> > The liberals are amazing people. They like to pride themselves on their
> > liberation from primitive fundamentalist religion and the stultifying
> > hierarchies and restrictions of tradition. They embrace science and
> > progress.
> >
> > They freely acknowledge the general scientific validity of evolutionary
> > theory. They laugh, at least in private, at the absurd religionists who
> > deny the idea of gradual genetic change bringing about all the forms of
> > life we see today.
> >
> > They thereby implicitly affirm that the form of every structure, every
> > organ, of every living being is determined by its genetic code.
> >
> > The flipper of the dolphin, the eggs of the robin, the structure of
> > phytoplankton -- all determined primarily and fundamentally by genetic
> > structure. The inherited behavioral characteristics of animals, so often
> > crucial for their survival in various environments, are also freely
> > acknowledged.
> >
> > When it comes to man, they freely acknowledge that his hair form, eye
> > color, nose shape, limb length, and even susceptibility to various
> > diseases are all inherited characteristics, determined by his genetic
> > structure.
> >
> > But! ...when it comes to _one organ_ of _one species_ -- the human brain
> > -- the liberal declares an exception. The function of the brain simply
> > _can't_ be genetically determined! The human brain's functions are
> > _uniquely_ mutable by the environment. This is not too different from the
> > religionist's assertion that there is an immaterial spirit that is the
> > real seat of human personality. The liberals' one exception to the laws
> > of genetics reeks of "magic," which one senses most strongly when they
> > wax poetic over the "human dignity" possessed by mental defectives or
> > cannibals because of some immaterial wonderful something that inheres in
> > everything that is arguably human.
> >
> > This exception will eventually be regarded, in my opinion, as a last
> > holdout of the Biblical view that man is separate from and above the rest
> > of Nature. For liberals have not really liberated themselves from
> > Christianity at all. They have dispensed with God and the prophets, of
> > course, but their baseless "all men are equal" religion is just the
> > poisonous residue of the irrational Middle Eastern religion that they
> > think they have rejected.
> >
> > With all good wishes,
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Kevin Alfred Strom
> >
> >
> 
> Sir, from your above statements you prove only that you are unwilling or
> unable to grasp my argument.  Rejecting 'bad science' (The Bell Curve)
> does not mean that 'liberals' reject science selectively, as you imply.
> 
> It is not 'we' who use science selectively, it is 'you.'
> 
> I will state it again:
> 
> You would serve your racialist cause better to return to the fantasies
> with which your views have been traditionally justified, because the thin
> veneer of science in which you have covered your ideas peels away with
> the slightest touch.


Kimberly, you have failed utterly to address even a single point in my 
message.

The human brain, as all other organs of all living beings, is determined 
in its structure by the genetic code. Environment can foster or hinder 
its natural development, but its potential for development is absolutely 
determined by inherited genetic structure.

Just as some individuals' inherited characteristics of leg bones and 
muscles are such that they have the potential to be Olympian runners, and 
others have inherited genes for leg structure that makes it difficult to 
walk around the block under the best of conditions; so our brain 
structures differ from individual to individual and on average from race 
to race.

Some might ask: What about the brain functions that aren't related to 
inherited physical brain structure?

Answer: There are no such things. _Everything_ is physical. _Everything_ 
is material. And the structure of the brain is inherited. It can be 
maimed by a less than ideal environment. But its structure under normal 
development will be what the genes determine. No more, no less.

In reality, man is a part of Nature and subject to her laws without 
exception. Man grades into non-man just as the races grade into each 
other and the troposhere grades into the ionosphere. The Biblical notion 
of a special "human-ness" that separates man from Nature and which 
elevates even the lowest human to equality, "spiritual" or otherwise, 
with all other humans is retained by liberals and is the grossest kind of 
superstition.

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Kimberley Ahlf wrote:


> 
> Because you do not respond specifically to my criticisms of your earlier
> points, I can only assume that  you did not find fault in them.
> 

You assume incorrectly. The "social privation" theory of racial 
differences is the theory most at variance with what we now know about 
Nature; so it is the one most in need of proof and the least likely to be 
used as a working hypothesis by pragmatic men and women.


....
> What you have said above in so very many words is:
> 

Come on Kimberly, do you really have to rephrase my arguments because 
they're sooooo long? Jeez, have you ever read some of Eugene Holman's 
posts?



> Because genetics is the basis for all body structures, and since brain
> structure is the basis for behavior, then genetics is the basis for all
> behavior and then behavior is predetermined by a person's genes.
> 
> _If_ that were true (and I'll grant your very over-simplified view because
> it is not essential to the point) it still DOES NOT establish the
> existence of a specific set of 'racial' genes which determine IQ.
> 
> As I said earlier, even if complex human behaviors were genetically
> predetermined then you could not even start drawing conclusions until you
> have at least established the genetic histories of the subjects you are
> describing.
> 


So the differences in the complex behaviors of cardinals and crows cannot 
be reasonably assumed to have a genetic basis, on the basis of what we 
know about genetics and its relation to bodily structures including the 
brain, _unless_ we know in detail the genetic histories of said birds? 
Ha! Is there any reason to suppose that any of the differences between 
bird species and races are anything but genetic in origin? Of course not.

Is there any important reason to suppose that the brain (and therefore 
intelligence and behaviorial) differences between human races should 
_not_ be genetic in origin, _as are all the other differences_? The 
answer, of course, is no, though it is extremely impolitic to say so, 
especially at our highly politicized universities.



> >
> >
> > > Where in "The Bell Curve" are the detailed genetic histories of the
> > > studied subjects?
> > >
> >
> >
> > Such a study would be interesting, and I am all for continued research,
> > but such studies are not _necessary_ before we can reasonably conclude
> > that racial differences in intelligence are genetically based.
> >
> 
> Such studies are ESSENTIAL before you can draw *scientific* conclusions
> about genetics.  You are certainly entitled to your *opinions* about what
> the statistical data suggests, but you are not practicing *science*
> without establishing and correlating the genetic data first.
> 


The statistical data support the assertion that intelligence is largely 
inherited and that it varies among human races. I agree that further 
study is necessary before the exact nature of genetic transmission of 
intelligence and behavior can be reduced to "laws." However, any 
objective person would have to accept the inheritance of congitive 
ability, and its variance among the races, as the working hypothesis.



> >
> >
> >
> > > Where are the genes isolated which predict IQ and how are they linked to
> > > race?
> > >
> >
> >
> > If equalitarian and dysgenic policies don't dumb us down too fast, I
> > believe that one day we will be able to answer that question; though as
> > you well know no one can answer it now. That, of course, does not mean
> > that the question has no answer.
> >
> 
> We will know the answer, and because it will not fit into your ideology
> you will discard it just as you have all the other sciences that disagree
> with you.
> 


What a bald assertion without even a shred of justification.

Quite like your equally absurd assertion that I was conceding your points 
because I hadn't responded in 24 hours. Kimberly, I have clients with 
contracts and work to be done; I have two small children whose needs must 
be attended to; I have a home that requires maintenance and attention. My 
life is not Usenet, and I log on when I can -- irregularly. Do not assume 
anything based on my absence.


....
> I should remind you that at the time of the potato famine, when Irish
> immigration was at a peak, anti-Irish racism was rampant.  It was the
> strong opinion of racialists that the Irish were less intelligent and more
> crime prone than more 'pure' English and European ethnic groups.
> 
> It seems ironic that a racialist such as yourself would now agree that the
> earlier racialists were incorrect...
> 

Ho hum. You missed my point entirely. Many European peoples have been 
enslaved and treated appallingly, sometimes for centuries. This didn't 
seem to affect their IQ or their capacity for creating and sustaining 
civilization at all.


> > My European ancestors lived among ferocious predators, homicidal
> > neighboring tribes, glaciers, landslides, and lots of things nastier than
> > "racism" is supposed to be. Until the last millisecond in geologic time
> > they had _no_ educational opportunities per se. In the midst of
> > incredible privation and hardship a rigourous selection process occurred,
> > resulting in the development of a high intelligence, which necessarily
> > preceded its results: the grandeur of the Classical world and the
> > shimmering technological wonders of today, and everything in between.
> >
> > No, the "social privation" argument cuts no mustard with me, I'm afraid.
> 
> That is because you are wedded to ideology rather than science.

Just like the "social anthropologists" perhaps? Please provide detailed 
proof of your assertion about me. I would suggest that you do not know 
enough about me to make such a statement, and that therefore the 
accusation is for all practical purposes, content-free.

Honor bright,

-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

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Kimberley Ahlf wrote:


> 
> Because you do not respond specifically to my criticisms of your earlier
> points, I can only assume that  you did not find fault in them.
> 

You assume incorrectly. The "social privation" theory of racial 
differences is the theory most at variance with what we now know about 
Nature; so it is the one most in need of proof and the least likely to be 
used as a working hypothesis by pragmatic men and women.


....
> What you have said above in so very many words is:
> 

Come on Kimberly, do you really have to rephrase my arguments because 
they're sooooo long? Jeez, have you ever read some of Eugene Holman's 
posts?



> Because genetics is the basis for all body structures, and since brain
> structure is the basis for behavior, then genetics is the basis for all
> behavior and then behavior is predetermined by a person's genes.
> 
> _If_ that were true (and I'll grant your very over-simplified view because
> it is not essential to the point) it still DOES NOT establish the
> existence of a specific set of 'racial' genes which determine IQ.
> 
> As I said earlier, even if complex human behaviors were genetically
> predetermined then you could not even start drawing conclusions until you
> have at least established the genetic histories of the subjects you are
> describing.
> 


So the differences in the complex behaviors of cardinals and crows cannot 
be reasonably assumed to have a genetic basis, on the basis of what we 
know about genetics and its relation to bodily structures including the 
brain, _unless_ we know in detail the genetic histories of said birds? 
Ha! Is there any reason to suppose that any of the differences between 
bird species and races are anything but genetic in origin? Of course not.

Is there any important reason to suppose that the brain (and therefore 
intelligence and behaviorial) differences between human races should 
_not_ be genetic in origin, _as are all the other differences_? The 
answer, of course, is no, though it is extremely impolitic to say so, 
especially at our highly politicized universities.



> >
> >
> > > Where in "The Bell Curve" are the detailed genetic histories of the
> > > studied subjects?
> > >
> >
> >
> > Such a study would be interesting, and I am all for continued research,
> > but such studies are not _necessary_ before we can reasonably conclude
> > that racial differences in intelligence are genetically based.
> >
> 
> Such studies are ESSENTIAL before you can draw *scientific* conclusions
> about genetics.  You are certainly entitled to your *opinions* about what
> the statistical data suggests, but you are not practicing *science*
> without establishing and correlating the genetic data first.
> 


The statistical data support the assertion that intelligence is largely 
inherited and that it varies among human races. I agree that further 
study is necessary before the exact nature of genetic transmission of 
intelligence and behavior can be reduced to "laws." However, any 
objective person would have to accept the inheritance of congitive 
ability, and its variance among the races, as the working hypothesis.



> >
> >
> >
> > > Where are the genes isolated which predict IQ and how are they linked to
> > > race?
> > >
> >
> >
> > If equalitarian and dysgenic policies don't dumb us down too fast, I
> > believe that one day we will be able to answer that question; though as
> > you well know no one can answer it now. That, of course, does not mean
> > that the question has no answer.
> >
> 
> We will know the answer, and because it will not fit into your ideology
> you will discard it just as you have all the other sciences that disagree
> with you.
> 


What a bald assertion without even a shred of justification.

Quite like your equally absurd assertion that I was conceding your points 
because I hadn't responded in 24 hours. Kimberly, I have clients with 
contracts and work to be done; I have two small children whose needs must 
be attended to; I have a home that requires maintenance and attention. My 
life is not Usenet, and I log on when I can -- irregularly. Do not assume 
anything based on my absence.


....
> I should remind you that at the time of the potato famine, when Irish
> immigration was at a peak, anti-Irish racism was rampant.  It was the
> strong opinion of racialists that the Irish were less intelligent and more
> crime prone than more 'pure' English and European ethnic groups.
> 
> It seems ironic that a racialist such as yourself would now agree that the
> earlier racialists were incorrect...
> 

Ho hum. You missed my point entirely. Many European peoples have been 
enslaved and treated appallingly, sometimes for centuries. This didn't 
seem to affect their IQ or their capacity for creating and sustaining 
civilization at all.


> > My European ancestors lived among ferocious predators, homicidal
> > neighboring tribes, glaciers, landslides, and lots of things nastier than
> > "racism" is supposed to be. Until the last millisecond in geologic time
> > they had _no_ educational opportunities per se. In the midst of
> > incredible privation and hardship a rigourous selection process occurred,
> > resulting in the development of a high intelligence, which necessarily
> > preceded its results: the grandeur of the Classical world and the
> > shimmering technological wonders of today, and everything in between.
> >
> > No, the "social privation" argument cuts no mustard with me, I'm afraid.
> 
> That is because you are wedded to ideology rather than science.

Just like the "social anthropologists" perhaps? Please provide detailed 
proof of your assertion about me. I would suggest that you do not know 
enough about me to make such a statement, and that therefore the 
accusation is for all practical purposes, content-free.

Honor bright,

-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

-----------------------------------------------------------
      Resource list; not all are affiliated with me;
                  I speak only for myself:

                 Occupied America Homepage:
      http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/america/

     Information on Amateur Radio Operations on 3950 kHz:
            http://www.usaor.net/users/mckinney/

                The Finest in European Art:
      http://www.telecall.co.uk/~synergy/gframing/cat2.html

                   Patriotic Resistance:
                  http://www.natvan.com/
                  http://www.natall.com/



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