From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri May  3 19:11:01 PDT 1996
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From: ka_strom@ix.netcom.com (Kevin Alfred Strom)
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:

>In article <4mas4s$c2s@news.nyu.edu>, 
>jal5266@is.nyu.edu (Jeremy A. Litt) wrote:

>>Where is it a stated purpose ofNizkor to get Les Griswold fired?  
>>Troll, troll, troll, troll, life is but a dream.

>I wouldn't dream of getting the Griswold fired. I want him to
>get the recognition he so richly deserves, and have taken
>steps to initiate that recognition by mentioning his name
>to Members of Parliament concerned with human rights issues,
>and to members of the Fifth Estate across Canada. It is, after
>all, the least I can do for the pathetic little fellow. 

>I want Canadians to see his manly little physique on CPAC, our
>Parliamentary television channel. I want them to see this
>dark-haired, frail little "Aryan superman" in all his glory, 
>spouting incessant inanities for anyone who will listen, his
>words of wisdom simultaneously translated into French.

>I want Canada's legislators to learn from the sharing of the
>Griswold Wisdoms; hell, I want "Griswold" to become a
>familiar name to each and every Canadian. I want Canadians to
>thrill every time Griswold opens his little mouth.

>I want our MP's to hear him explain that they need to contact
>"The head office" if they want an interview. The laughter
>should resound from ocean to ocean on that one alone,
>parlicularly when our Mr. "I can't talk to the media because I am
>too stupid, and Pierce won't permit it" Griswold is asked to
>reconcile this head office directive with his clear
>achievement: He's made a fool of himself on the internet
>without Mr. Pierce's approval. (Anyone reading his wise and
>timely wisdom will recognize this at once!)

>I want Lester to become famous throughout the land; I want him
>to be pointed to as an example of just how far Aryan
>Superheros can rise in our country. Security guard! Imagine
>that! Our Noble Aryan Hero, that Leader Among Men, the head of
>the National Appliance in Canada, Grand Fuehrer and Lord
>Grease, Lester Griswold himself, risen on the strength of his
>wisdom and vision to the lofty position of security guard!

>A True Canadian Hero, our cute little Griswold, perhaps about
>to receive the recognition he so richly deserves... wait for
>it :-)

>As anyone who watched CPAC last Tuesday will tell you, Mr.
>Griswold's name is even now resounding in the Centre Block of
>Parliament, and I have only begun my quest to help him achieve
>Fame and Recognition in Canada.

>William Pierce should enjoy it. I know I will.
>-- 
>The Nizkor Project (Canada) - An Electronic Holocaust Educational Resource
>      Over 100Megs of data: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl? 
>            Europe: ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/
>Nizkor Web: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/ (Under construction - permanently!)

Translation:

McVay wants to use the government to intimidate, imprison, or
otherwise ruin those with whom he disagrees. There is no other
reasonable explanation for his statements.

If Mr. McVay had absolute confidence in the veracity of his position,
he would not resort to such tactics.

Still free and still brown-haired,

Kevin Alfred Strom



From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri May  3 19:11:03 PDT 1996
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From: Kevin Alfred Strom 
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay Ostentatiously Bragging 
Cyberhater) wrote:

> Ronald Schoedel and mental illness: READ
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> From           kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
> Organization   The Nizkor Project
> Date           2 May 1996 18:32:35 -0700
> Newsgroups     alt.conspiracy,alt.illuminati,alt.religion.christian.last-days,alt.religion.christian
> Message-ID     <4mbnnj$t05@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
> References     1 2
> 
> 
> This introduction to the "Reverend Ronald Schoedel III," in
> his own words, has been brought to you courtesy:
> 

Ken, I know you are so meticulous, so in the interest of putting the 
Schoedel archive in context, please include the message in which you 
stated that Reverend Schoedel's father "should have used a condom," 
implying that Schoedel should not be alive.

Happy archiving,

Kevin Alfred Strom


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri May  3 19:11:04 PDT 1996
Article: 34522 of alt.revisionism
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay Ostentatiously Bragging 
Cyberhater) wrote:

> Ronald Schoedel and mental illness: READ
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> From           kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
> Organization   The Nizkor Project
> Date           2 May 1996 18:32:35 -0700
> Newsgroups     alt.conspiracy,alt.illuminati,alt.religion.christian.last-days,alt.religion.christian
> Message-ID     <4mbnnj$t05@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
> References     1 2
> 
> 
> This introduction to the "Reverend Ronald Schoedel III," in
> his own words, has been brought to you courtesy:
> 

Ken, I know you are so meticulous, so in the interest of putting the 
Schoedel archive in context, please include the message in which you 
stated that Reverend Schoedel's father "should have used a condom," 
implying that Schoedel should not be alive.

Happy archiving,

Kevin Alfred Strom


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri May  3 19:11:04 PDT 1996
Article: 34523 of alt.revisionism
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From: Kevin Alfred Strom 
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.illuminati,alt.religion.christian,alt.revisionism
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay Ostentatiously Bragging 
Cyberhater) wrote:

> Ronald Schoedel and mental illness: READ
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> From           kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
> Organization   The Nizkor Project
> Date           2 May 1996 18:32:35 -0700
> Newsgroups     alt.conspiracy,alt.illuminati,alt.religion.christian.last-days,alt.religion.christian
> Message-ID     <4mbnnj$t05@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
> References     1 2
> 
> 
> This introduction to the "Reverend Ronald Schoedel III," in
> his own words, has been brought to you courtesy:
> 

Ken, I know you are so meticulous, so in the interest of putting the 
Schoedel archive in context, please include the message in which you 
stated that Reverend Schoedel's father "should have used a condom," 
implying that Schoedel should not be alive.

Happy archiving,

Kevin Alfred Strom


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri May  3 19:11:05 PDT 1996
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Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.illuminati,alt.religion.christian,alt.revisionism
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay Ostentatiously Bragging 
Cyberhater) wrote:

> Ronald Schoedel and mental illness: READ
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> From           kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
> Organization   The Nizkor Project
> Date           2 May 1996 18:32:35 -0700
> Newsgroups     alt.conspiracy,alt.illuminati,alt.religion.christian.last-days,alt.religion.christian
> Message-ID     <4mbnnj$t05@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
> References     1 2
> 
> 
> This introduction to the "Reverend Ronald Schoedel III," in
> his own words, has been brought to you courtesy:
> 

Ken, I know you are so meticulous, so in the interest of putting the 
Schoedel archive in context, please include the message in which you 
stated that Reverend Schoedel's father "should have used a condom," 
implying that Schoedel should not be alive.

Happy archiving,

Kevin Alfred Strom


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri May  3 19:11:06 PDT 1996
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay Ostentatiously Bragging 
Cyberhater) wrote:

> Ronald Schoedel and mental illness: READ
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> From           kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
> Organization   The Nizkor Project
> Date           2 May 1996 18:32:35 -0700
> Newsgroups     alt.conspiracy,alt.illuminati,alt.religion.christian.last-days,alt.religion.christian
> Message-ID     <4mbnnj$t05@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
> References     1 2
> 
> 
> This introduction to the "Reverend Ronald Schoedel III," in
> his own words, has been brought to you courtesy:
> 

Ken, I know you are so meticulous, so in the interest of putting the 
Schoedel archive in context, please include the message in which you 
stated that Reverend Schoedel's father "should have used a condom," 
implying that Schoedel should not be alive.

Happy archiving,

Kevin Alfred Strom


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri May  3 19:11:07 PDT 1996
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay Ostentatiously Bragging 
Cyberhater) wrote:

> Ronald Schoedel and mental illness: READ
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> From           kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
> Organization   The Nizkor Project
> Date           2 May 1996 18:32:35 -0700
> Newsgroups     alt.conspiracy,alt.illuminati,alt.religion.christian.last-days,alt.religion.christian
> Message-ID     <4mbnnj$t05@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
> References     1 2
> 
> 
> This introduction to the "Reverend Ronald Schoedel III," in
> his own words, has been brought to you courtesy:
> 

Ken, I know you are so meticulous, so in the interest of putting the 
Schoedel archive in context, please include the message in which you 
stated that Reverend Schoedel's father "should have used a condom," 
implying that Schoedel should not be alive.

Happy archiving,

Kevin Alfred Strom


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri May  3 19:11:07 PDT 1996
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay Ostentatiously Bragging 
Cyberhater) wrote:

> Ronald Schoedel and mental illness: READ
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> From           kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
> Organization   The Nizkor Project
> Date           2 May 1996 18:32:35 -0700
> Newsgroups     alt.conspiracy,alt.illuminati,alt.religion.christian.last-days,alt.religion.christian
> Message-ID     <4mbnnj$t05@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
> References     1 2
> 
> 
> This introduction to the "Reverend Ronald Schoedel III," in
> his own words, has been brought to you courtesy:
> 

Ken, I know you are so meticulous, so in the interest of putting the 
Schoedel archive in context, please include the message in which you 
stated that Reverend Schoedel's father "should have used a condom," 
implying that Schoedel should not be alive.

Happy archiving,

Kevin Alfred Strom


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri May  3 19:17:48 PDT 1996
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay Ostentatiously Bragging 
Cyberhater) wrote:

> Ronald Schoedel and mental illness: READ
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> From           kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
> Organization   The Nizkor Project
> Date           2 May 1996 18:32:35 -0700
> Newsgroups     alt.conspiracy,alt.illuminati,alt.religion.christian.last-days,alt.religion.christian
> Message-ID     <4mbnnj$t05@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
> References     1 2
> 
> 
> This introduction to the "Reverend Ronald Schoedel III," in
> his own words, has been brought to you courtesy:
> 

Ken, I know you are so meticulous, so in the interest of putting the 
Schoedel archive in context, please include the message in which you 
stated that Reverend Schoedel's father "should have used a condom," 
implying that Schoedel should not be alive.

Happy archiving,

Kevin Alfred Strom


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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay Ostentatiously Bragging 
Cyberhater) wrote:

> Ronald Schoedel and mental illness: READ
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> From           kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
> Organization   The Nizkor Project
> Date           2 May 1996 18:32:35 -0700
> Newsgroups     alt.conspiracy,alt.illuminati,alt.religion.christian.last-days,alt.religion.christian
> Message-ID     <4mbnnj$t05@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
> References     1 2
> 
> 
> This introduction to the "Reverend Ronald Schoedel III," in
> his own words, has been brought to you courtesy:
> 

Ken, I know you are so meticulous, so in the interest of putting the 
Schoedel archive in context, please include the message in which you 
stated that Reverend Schoedel's father "should have used a condom," 
implying that Schoedel should not be alive.

Happy archiving,

Kevin Alfred Strom


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Ken McVay writes (seemingly without cessation):

> "white power" hate rangers
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> From           kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
> Organization   The Nizkor Project
> Date           26 Apr 1996 09:51:14 -0700
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> Message-ID     <4lquu2$7sl@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
> References     1 2 3 4
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

> 
> and browse from there. For first class examples of white power
> rangers and Noble Aryan Heros & Woman-Beaters at work, see:
> 
> http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald
> http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/g/griswold.les
> http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/k/kleim.milton
> http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/b/burdi.george
> Now I know about George Burdi's conviction for assault, which was a 
result of his defending himself against an "anti-racist" mob. But my real 
interest, Ken, is in _who else_ you are accusing of being a "woman 
beater."

Care to explain, in detail and with references, who are the "woman 
beaters" (note plural) in your list?

Thank you very much.

In eager anticipation,

Kevin Alfred Strom


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Sat May  4 07:44:31 PDT 1996
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From: Kevin Alfred Strom 
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay Ostentatiously Bragging 
Cyberhater) wrote:

> Ronald Schoedel and mental illness: READ
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> From           kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
> Organization   The Nizkor Project
> Date           2 May 1996 18:32:35 -0700
> Newsgroups     alt.conspiracy,alt.illuminati,alt.religion.christian.last-days,alt.religion.christian
> Message-ID     <4mbnnj$t05@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
> References     1 2
> 
> 
> This introduction to the "Reverend Ronald Schoedel III," in
> his own words, has been brought to you courtesy:
> 

Ken, I know you are so meticulous, so in the interest of putting the 
Schoedel archive in context, please include the message in which you 
stated that Reverend Schoedel's father "should have used a condom," 
implying that Schoedel should not be alive.

Happy archiving,

Kevin Alfred Strom


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Sat May  4 09:33:20 PDT 1996
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From: Kevin Alfred Strom 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.discrimination,alt.revisionism,alt.skinheads,can.politics
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Joel Rosenberg wrote:
> 
> In article <4mcdgq$qdr@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> ka_strom@ix.netcom.com (Kevin Alfred Strom) writes:
> 
> >McVay wants to use the government to intimidate, imprison, or
> >otherwise ruin those with whom he disagrees. There is no other
> >reasonable explanation for his statements.
> 
> Well, there's:  McVay wants to use publicity, including the bully
> pulpit that the government has, to fight the sort of moronic bigotry put forth
> by Les Griswold.
> 

Do "Members of Parliament concerned with human rights issues" primarily 
function as providers of "bully pulpits" or as makers of laws? And even 
when there is a "bully pulpit" function, is it ever entirely divorced 
>from  the law-making function?

McVay wrote:

>>I wouldn't dream of getting the Griswold fired. I want him toget the recognition he so richly deserves, and have taken
steps to initiate that recognition by mentioning his name
to Members of Parliament concerned with human rights issues,
and to members of the Fifth Estate across Canada. It is, after
all, the least I can do for the pathetic little fellow. <<

No one can read that without detecting the smirking threat behind the 
unctuous words. We all know that, in Canada, expressing opinions can 
sometimes land you in court if not in jail if those opinions are 
displeasing to Jews. It can also cause you to end up on the receiving end 
of a bomb or brick if the Red Guard anti-racists are informed of your 
physical location. "Bully pulpit" indeed. It is nothing less than 
intimidation.


> Now, you were explaining about how Mark Twain's "Concerning the Jews" was both
> antisemitic and suppressed, right?  Care to have another go at it, after
> having read it?
> 
> Didn't think so.
> 

Mark Twain's liking for the Jews notwithstanding, he said things about 
them and their activities which could never be stated by a public figure 
today without a Brando- or Irving-style firestorm. And the fact that 
Twain said these things (that the Jews are a distinct race and that they 
often act in concert to the disadvantage of other races, among other 
things) without malice gives them added credibility.

Twain's works occupy about half a shelf at my city's main library, and 
nowhere in these volumes is "Concerning the Jews" to be found. In the 
entire southeastern Minnesota cooperative library system there is one 
copy. And I believe it was you who found it on a CD-Rom. So it is 
certainly not suppressed. But it is disingenuous of you to suggest that 
my _asking_ if it was available was tantamount to a claim of its being 
suppressed.

On the other hand, Henry Ford's _The International Jew_ has for all 
practical purposes been suppressed, wouldn't you agree?

Sincerely,

Kevin Alfred Strom


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Sat May  4 19:54:16 PDT 1996
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay Ostentatiously Bragging 
Cyberhater) wrote:

> Ronald Schoedel and mental illness: READ
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> From           kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
> Organization   The Nizkor Project
> Date           2 May 1996 18:32:35 -0700
> Newsgroups     alt.conspiracy,alt.illuminati,alt.religion.christian.last-days,alt.religion.christian
> Message-ID     <4mbnnj$t05@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
> References     1 2
> 
> 
> This introduction to the "Reverend Ronald Schoedel III," in
> his own words, has been brought to you courtesy:
> 

Ken, I know you are so meticulous, so in the interest of putting the 
Schoedel archive in context, please include the message in which you 
stated that Reverend Schoedel's father "should have used a condom," 
implying that Schoedel should not be alive.

Happy archiving,

Kevin Alfred Strom


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From: Kevin Alfred Strom 
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.illuminati,alt.religion.christian.last-days,alt.religion.christian,alt.revisionism
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay Ostentatiously Bragging 
Cyberhater) wrote:

> Ronald Schoedel and mental illness: READ
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> From           kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
> Organization   The Nizkor Project
> Date           2 May 1996 18:32:35 -0700
> Newsgroups     alt.conspiracy,alt.illuminati,alt.religion.christian.last-days,alt.religion.christian
> Message-ID     <4mbnnj$t05@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
> References     1 2
> 
> 
> This introduction to the "Reverend Ronald Schoedel III," in
> his own words, has been brought to you courtesy:
> 

Ken, I know you are so meticulous, so in the interest of putting the 
Schoedel archive in context, please include the message in which you 
stated that Reverend Schoedel's father "should have used a condom," 
implying that Schoedel should not be alive.

Happy archiving,

Kevin Alfred Strom


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Sat May  4 22:12:57 PDT 1996
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You have my sincere apologies for posting the article more than once -- 
good as it was! 

Something is incompatible with Netscape and my Netcruiser account, and 
the software was telling me that the article wasn't being sent. Again, my 
apologies to all who had to d/l it more than once.

With good wishes,

Kevin Alfred Strom


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Ken McVay "OBC" wrote:
> 
> In article <318B38EC.4A99@ix.netcom.com>,
> Kevin Alfred Strom  wrote:
> 
> >Do "Members of Parliament concerned with human rights issues" primarily
> >function as providers of "bully pulpits" or as makers of laws? And even
> >when there is a "bully pulpit" function, is it ever entirely divorced
> >from the law-making function?
> 
> The Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of
> Persons With Disabilities is holding hearings to determine the
> impact of information technology on those areas falling within
> their mandate.
> 
> One of those areas is hate speech and regulation of the
> Internet, and it was to address that issue that I recently
> appeared before the Committee. I am not remotely concerned
> with what Mr. Strom thinks Canadian parliamentary committees
> do or do not do - they can be observed daily on CPAC.
> [...]
> 
> If Mr. Strom can produce evidence that this, or any other,
> committee is a "bully pulpit," I trust he will do so, or
> demonstrate that he is simply blowing hot air.


It was not I who said the lawmakers' activities constituted a "bully pulpit." I was 
saying that that is _not_ their primary function. Perhaps you do not know the meaning of 
the term "bully pulpit," for which you can be forgiven as it is, I think, an 
Americanism, and you are very busy.


> 
> >No one can read that without detecting the smirking threat behind the
> >unctuous words. We all know that, in Canada, expressing opinions can
> >sometimes land you in court if not in jail if those opinions are
> >displeasing to Jews. It can also cause you to end up on the receiving end
> >of a bomb or brick if the Red Guard anti-racists are informed of your
> >physical location. "Bully pulpit" indeed. It is nothing less than
> >intimidation.
> 
> Mr. Griswold's address is listed in the telephone book, I'm
> told, so it is unlikely he'll grasp at that particular excuse.


Those who publicly take positions that are unpopular with the rich and powerful, which 
Mr. Griswold has done, ought to be recognized as courageous even by their opponents.


> 
> As to Mr. Griswold being jailed for displeasing the Jews, I
> might point out that he has defamed Jews, blacks, Hispanics,
> Asiatics and nearly everyone else since late 1994, and he has
> been neither charged nor even questioned by Canadian
> authorities. I should also point out that this is in spite of
> the clear fact that the Canadian Human Rights Commission has
> absolute legal jurisdiction in his case, and could certainly
> attempt to address his words if it so chose. It has not done
> so, nor, in my belief, will it do so in the future.
> 
> I would also state, without reservation, that if the Canadian
> Human Rights Commission _did_ apply its legal right to accept
> a complaint and proceed with it that I would oppose it,
> privately and publically.
> 
> It is _precisely_ this issue that the Standing Committee must
> address, and _precisely_ this issue that Mr. Griswold should
> address. How, one must ask, will the MP's (most of whom are
> not internet-literate) comprehend the nature of hateful speech
> on the net if they do not read it? How better than bringing a
> local and vocal advocate of hate before them?
> 


So, after conveniently defining Mr. Griswold as a practitioner of "hate speech," and 
bringing him _thus_ to the attention of the internet-illiterate MPs charged with making 
sure that those who speak Canada's forbidden words are able to be indicted -- after all 
that, _then_ you will privately and publicly oppose the charge. Damned nice of you, I'd 
say.

It's a bit like bringing a heretic to the attention of the Inquisition and saying "tut, 
tut, don't be so hard on him" once he is hauled to the dock.

With best wishes, especially to my Canadian friends,


Kevin Alfred Strom


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As far as the movements of various peoples is concerned, McEvedy's _Atlas 
of Ancient History_ is an excellent source.

As far as filling out your knowledge of how myth, religion, and popularly 
accepted ideas about history can intertwine and confound even the most 
sincere seeker of the facts, read Dr. Martin Larson's _The Story of 
Christian Origins_.

Good luck in your search.

With my best wishes,

Kevin Alfred Strom


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Alexandre Kotov wrote:
> 
> In article <4mafof$kl6@moe.cc.emory.edu>,
> william c anderson  wrote:
> >Actually, that would be "nothing," since the entire concept of race is
> >outdated and scientifically invalid--it's been pretty conclusively shown
> >that there's far more genetic variability within "races" than between
> 
> Could you refer me to a study which shows that there is more genetic
> difference between say Frenchman and German, then between say Frenchman and
> Tootsie?
> You can not deny that there exist a number of genetic signs specific to races.
> And of course one should not assume that all different segments of the DNA
> molecule are equally important and have similar function.
> 
> >them.  I suppose one could speak of cultural superiority, but then we'd
> >have to decide what we mean by "superior," which is entirely dependent
> >on the environment in which a given culture lives and what it values.
> 
> Is it not true that culture is created by people?
> 
> >It's all pretty complex, but the tiny little brains of the White Power
> >Rangers are pretty much immune to complexity and must grasp for simple
> >answers to allay their feelings of impotence.
> 
> I am not afraid of complex questions. What I do not like is incoherent
> and illogical answers.
> Bill, your "you are too stupid to understand" is not an answer to
> any question at all. What does it say about you? Maybe that you are
> too angry to think clearly?
> Anyway, can you recommend some books on the subject?
> 
> --
>                 Regards,
>                  Alex.
>  akotov1@umbc.edu                *********             http://umbc.edu/~akotov1
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Hailing from snowy Maryland^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Those who repeat the mindless mantra of "there is no such thing as race" should consider 
a simple analogy.

The Atlantic Ocean grades imperceptibly into the Gulf of Mexico. No one can say for 
certain where the boundary is.

The Gulf of Mexico grades imperceptibly into the Mississippi River.

The Mississippi River grades imperceptibly into many smaller rivers and streams.

One of those streams grades imperceptibly into a toxic spill.

Therefore, it cannot be proven that there are such things as oceans, gulfs, rivers, 
streams, and toxic spills. Furthermore, we must act as though there is no difference 
between the Atlantic Ocean and a toxic spill, since to do otherwise would be to be 
guilty of "waterism."

Happy internetting to all,

Kevin Alfred Strom


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri May 10 12:35:16 PDT 1996
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From: Kevin Alfred Strom 
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Subject: Re: Les Griswold's Parliamentary appearance
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Dene Bebbington wrote:
> 
> Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
> > As for the rest, I assume that "cur" is just a synonym for "half
> > breed," which I have already asked you to explain, and the rest
> > are just insults which have no bearing on Mr. Griswold's right
> > to speak freely and his courage for taking on the rich and
> > powerful.
> 
> This functional illiteracy seems to be spreading, "cur" is not a
> synonym for "half breed", my Chambers dictionary gives the
> following meaning:
> 
> "a worthless dog, of low breed: a comptemptible scoundrel"
> 
> --
> Dene Bebbington
> 
> "... after all, who'd notice another madman around here?!"

Thank you ever so much for attempting to improve my English.

Hoever, as your dictionary is trying to tell you ("low breed"), my exhaustive Funk and 
Wagnalls New Standard gives "mongrel" as the very first definition for "cur." And from 
the context it is likely that this was indeed the intended meaning.

Might I note in passing that your comma splices ought to be replaced by periods (by far 
the best in this case) or semicolons?

Of course, we shouldn't lose track of the real point here: It has been suggested that 
Mr. Les Griswold is not White. I do not believe this assertion and want the accuser to 
come up with his reasons for making his bizarre claim. So far, the only response I have 
seen is from a helpful looney stating that Mr. Griswold is not six feet tall, blond, and 
blue-eyed. By such standards, Edgar Allan Poe, Julius Caesar, George Washington, and 
Theodore Roosevelt were not White.

I would still like the maker of the original assertion to defend his position.

With iterated thanks for your kind-hearted attempt to improve my writing, you have my

Best wishes,

Kevin Alfred Strom.


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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay Ostentatiously Bragging 
Cyberhater) wrote:

> Ronald Schoedel and mental illness: READ
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> From           kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
> Organization   The Nizkor Project
> Date           2 May 1996 18:32:35 -0700
> Newsgroups     alt.conspiracy,alt.illuminati,alt.religion.christian.last-days,alt.religion.christian
> Message-ID     <4mbnnj$t05@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
> References     1 2
> 
> 
> This introduction to the "Reverend Ronald Schoedel III," in
> his own words, has been brought to you courtesy:
> 

Ken, I know you are so meticulous, so in the interest of putting the 
Schoedel archive in context, please include the message in which you 
stated that Reverend Schoedel's father "should have used a condom," 
implying that Schoedel should not be alive.

Happy archiving,

Kevin Alfred Strom


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri May 10 14:43:58 PDT 1996
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Chuck Ferree wrote:

> 
> Oh yes Christ was born a Jew and died a Jew!
> 
> If you can't prove it, don't write it!
> 
> Chuck

Actually, the existence of a single individual named "Jesus Christ" and 
about whom the officially accepted  New testament accounts were written 
is highly debatable.

An excellent book on the subject is Dr. Martin Larson's _The Story of 
Christian Origins_, one of the most enlightening books ever written.

With all good wishes,

Kevin Alfred Strom


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri May 10 17:24:05 PDT 1996
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay Ostentatiously Bragging 
Cyberhater) wrote:

> Ronald Schoedel and mental illness: READ
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> From           kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
> Organization   The Nizkor Project
> Date           2 May 1996 18:32:35 -0700
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> Message-ID     <4mbnnj$t05@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
> References     1 2
> 
> 
> This introduction to the "Reverend Ronald Schoedel III," in
> his own words, has been brought to you courtesy:
> 

Ken, I know you are so meticulous, so in the interest of putting the 
Schoedel archive in context, please include the message in which you 
stated that Reverend Schoedel's father "should have used a condom," 
implying that Schoedel should not be alive.

Happy archiving,

Kevin Alfred Strom


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri May 10 17:24:06 PDT 1996
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay Ostentatiously Bragging 
Cyberhater) wrote:

> Ronald Schoedel and mental illness: READ
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> From           kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
> Organization   The Nizkor Project
> Date           2 May 1996 18:32:35 -0700
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> Message-ID     <4mbnnj$t05@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
> References     1 2
> 
> 
> This introduction to the "Reverend Ronald Schoedel III," in
> his own words, has been brought to you courtesy:
> 

Ken, I know you are so meticulous, so in the interest of putting the 
Schoedel archive in context, please include the message in which you 
stated that Reverend Schoedel's father "should have used a condom," 
implying that Schoedel should not be alive.

Happy archiving,

Kevin Alfred Strom


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Sat May 11 08:20:04 PDT 1996
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Les Griswold wrote:
> 
> Stewart King (slking@husc7.harvard.edu) writes:
> >
> > Jim Bowery (jabowery@netcom.com) wrote:
> >
> > : Diversity is good.  It provides insurance against an unpredictable
> > : future.  That is why mixing everything into one big mass of grey/brown,
> > : while it might be appealing to a certain fascist tendency within our
> > : psyche, is simply not wise.
> >
> > This is exactly why interbreeding is _good_ you big silly.  The more
> > traits - dominant and recessive both - are spread through the larger
> > portion of the population, the better off we are.  Speaking in terms of
> > evolutionary safety.
> 
> No, you dummy.  This shows a TOTAL misunderstanding of the hazards of just
> throwing any old genes, and phenotypes, together.
> 
> > Ferexample if the black people have this gene, that protects them from
> > the next big disease.  They've got it, see, and white people, Asians, all
> > them don't have it.  We've never even heard of it before because it
> > hasn't been important.  So all the whites and Asians die, except the ones
> > with black blood.
> >
> > That's bad.
> 
> So, IF that should occur, THEN we'll deal with it.  But what MIGHT happen
> in the future (and then again, might NOT) is not a sound basis for guiding
> one's actions.
> 
> (snip)
> 
> > The "big mass of grey/brown" is a nice little racist mental image you got
> > there, but it doesn't mean anything.  They got the genes, man, the
> > mulattoes.  Got the best of both worlds.
> 
> Or the worst.  Really, Stewie, you should take off your blinders.
> 
> Les


There are several species of eagles in North America. Undoubtedly they 
had a common ancestor millennia ago, but they diverged and stopped 
interbreeding and became uniquely adapted to their different 
environments.

Would encouraging these eagle species to interbreed randomly, with the 
distinct possibility that some of the species would cease to exist in 
anything like their pure form, be something that an ecologist or 
bird-lover would want?

No. Nature forged them, made them pure (which has nothing to do with not 
having common ancestors with other species, and everything to do with 
evolving and developing into higher forms of life in response to the 
natural environment).

It would be hate -- it would be wilful destruction of the sacred 
creations of Nature -- to destroy the unique species by encouraging 
cross-breeding among eagle species.

With all good wishes,

Kevin Alfred Strom


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Ladies and Gentlemen:

Just thought you'd like to see the honorable techniques employed by 
certain "anti-racists" in the free and open debate of the Internet:

------
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 > Re: Nazi's on the net???
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> From           olskool@ix.netcom.com (Antonio)
> Organization   Netcom
> Date           12 May 1996 07:34:15 GMT
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> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> In <31951B77.2446@aol.com> Hit and Run <666@aol.com> writes:
> 
> >
> >Let's make racist Internet Recruiting a bit Harder
> >
> >Several monts ago, I began collecting the addresses of openly racist
> >groups on the net.  I'm sure there are plenty more.  I was planning
> >on SPAMing them harsh and hopefully overflowing their accounts.
> >However it is finals time, and I have no time to do this.  Hopefully
> >someone else will help with the job.  (addresses are matched with
> >names of orgs in order.) Feel free to help by sending huge pics and
> >other assorted things. Help the effort by cross posting this to
> >spread the word.
> >
> >metzger@cts.com                                                                                                        White Aryan Restance
> >listserv@stormfront.org                                                                                STORMFRONT
> >bf221@freenet.carleton.ca                                                              Aryan News Agency
> >cpn@echo-on.net
> >dblack@mail.stormfront.org                                                             Stormfront
> >cn247@FreeNet.Carleton.CA         Aryan Crusader
> >an209340@anon.penet.fi            kkk independent group
> >amren@clever.net                 Aryan Resistance
> >FreeCSA@aol.com               Southern
> >bewise@pixi.com                                          Be Wise as Serpants
> >watchman@stormfront.org      Watchman - "We are living in the
> >                   kingdom, and it's time to take out the trash."
> >
> >ezundel@cts.com              Zundel - "Hollacust Revisionism"
> >tmw@nilenet.com              America Worldwide
> >an369729@anon.penet.fi       British Nationalists
> >ping@anon.penet.fi           British Nationalists
> >help@anon.penet.fi                                                 British Nationalists
> >ihrgreg@kaiwan.com  Historical Nationalists(Hollacaust Revisionists)
> >cn247@FreeNet.Carleton.CA    Aryan Crusader
> >webmaster@cbn.org                                                                                      The 700 club
> >amfamily@ebicom.net                    American Family Association
> >nclement1@aol.com                                      American Family Association
> >nac@ebicom.net                                                 American Family Association
> >
> 
> Just call them the "Netzi's"!  :)))

-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Thu May 16 12:44:55 PDT 1996
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Ladies and Gentlemen:

Just thought you'd like to see the honorable techniques employed by 
certain "anti-racists" in the free and open debate of the Internet:

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------

 > Re: Nazi's on the net???
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> From           olskool@ix.netcom.com (Antonio)
> Organization   Netcom
> Date           12 May 1996 07:34:15 GMT
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> Message-ID     <4n449n$1v0@dfw-ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> In <31951B77.2446@aol.com> Hit and Run <666@aol.com> writes:
> 
> >
> >Let's make racist Internet Recruiting a bit Harder
> >
> >Several monts ago, I began collecting the addresses of openly racist
> >groups on the net.  I'm sure there are plenty more.  I was planning
> >on SPAMing them harsh and hopefully overflowing their accounts.
> >However it is finals time, and I have no time to do this.  Hopefully
> >someone else will help with the job.  (addresses are matched with
> >names of orgs in order.) Feel free to help by sending huge pics and
> >other assorted things. Help the effort by cross posting this to
> >spread the word.
> >
> >metzger@cts.com                                                                                                        White Aryan Restance
> >listserv@stormfront.org                                                                                STORMFRONT
> >bf221@freenet.carleton.ca                                                              Aryan News Agency
> >cpn@echo-on.net
> >dblack@mail.stormfront.org                                                             Stormfront
> >cn247@FreeNet.Carleton.CA         Aryan Crusader
> >an209340@anon.penet.fi            kkk independent group
> >amren@clever.net                 Aryan Resistance
> >FreeCSA@aol.com               Southern
> >bewise@pixi.com                                          Be Wise as Serpants
> >watchman@stormfront.org      Watchman - "We are living in the
> >                   kingdom, and it's time to take out the trash."
> >
> >ezundel@cts.com              Zundel - "Hollacust Revisionism"
> >tmw@nilenet.com              America Worldwide
> >an369729@anon.penet.fi       British Nationalists
> >ping@anon.penet.fi           British Nationalists
> >help@anon.penet.fi                                                 British Nationalists
> >ihrgreg@kaiwan.com  Historical Nationalists(Hollacaust Revisionists)
> >cn247@FreeNet.Carleton.CA    Aryan Crusader
> >webmaster@cbn.org                                                                                      The 700 club
> >amfamily@ebicom.net                    American Family Association
> >nclement1@aol.com                                      American Family Association
> >nac@ebicom.net                                                 American Family Association
> >
> 
> Just call them the "Netzi's"!  :)))

-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri May 17 14:35:17 PDT 1996
Article: 37354 of alt.revisionism
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From: Kevin Alfred Strom 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revisionism,alt.revolution.counter,alt.renewing.american.civilization,news.admin.net-abuse.misc
Subject: Re: Mail Threat By Anti-Racist -- BWAHAHAHA!!!
Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 12:17:23 -0700
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Rich Graves wrote:
> 
> (A copy of this message has also been posted to the following newsgroups:
> alt.politics.nationalism.white,
> alt.revisionism,alt.revolution.counter,alt.renewing.american.civilization,news.admin.net-abuse.misc)
> 
> So some OBVIOUS troller posting as "666@aol.com" sends a joke to
> "alt.christnet.second-coming.real-soon-now", with References: pointing to
> a bunch of "HAIL SATAN" trolls, and you're scared? Even by the standards
> of the White Power Rangers, you're really, really stupid, Kev.
> 
> Btw, two of the addresses they listed as "belonging to racists" were:
> 
>  ping@anon.penet.fi
>  help@anon.penet.fi
> 
> Here's a couple of free clues, further clues provided at $100/hour:
> 
> From: Hit and Run <666@aol.com>
> X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K)
> NNTP-Posting-Host: pc206-140.hampshire.edu
> References: <4lfr3v$1s7@gerry.cc.keele.ac.uk>
> <4lg1i0$fen@news1.h1.usa.pipeline.com> <4m3uso$nus@news.ism.net>
> 
> <31925027.6877711@news.empire.net> <4mu617$lh7@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
> <4n06rq$20q@news.paonline.com>
> Path:
> nntp.Stanford.EDU!news.Stanford.EDU!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!caen!news.umass.edu!news.hampshire.edu!
> 
> Posted & emailed. Followups to news.admin.net-abuse.misc.
> 
> -rich
> 

Gee, Richard, did I say I was "scared?" No. Just pointing out the tactics 
used by an individual "anti-racist," specifically mail-bombing. This 
individual is being investigated as I write. As anyone who followed the 
thread can see, he received some support for his threat.

I have been victim of just such a bombing, so I know how serious it can 
be.

Your attitude is childish ("BWAHAHA..."), and your "stupid" comment is 
unworthy of someone with your obvious intelligence. Even I am better able 
to evaluate my adversaries! And I think your reaction to a threat to 
mail-bomb would have been different if the one making the threat were on 
the opposite side of the political fence. Think about it.

Thanks for the clues, but since I already have a great deal of evidence 
on this individual, including his probable real name, university, and 
several accounts that he uses, I will pass on your expensive services 
this time.

With all good wishes,

-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri May 17 14:35:18 PDT 1996
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From: Kevin Alfred Strom 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.politics.nationalsim.white
Subject: McVay on Schoedel's Father
Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 00:35:30 -0700
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Dear Ken McVay:

You recently stated that you would add this message by you to your Ron 
Schoedel archive, which you have been promoting.

I found it on DejaNews, and here it is:

begin message by Ken McVay
-----------------------
Subject:      Schoedel hates everyone..
From:         kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Date:         1996/04/02
Message-Id:   <4jrhsj$t2s@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
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<4jkblg$anf@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
Organization: The Nizkor Project
Newsgroups:   alt.politics.nationalism.white

In article <4jkblg$anf@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, 
freshagain@aol.com (FreshAgain) wrote:

>Ron Schoedel hates my guts.  This is because I'm a Jew.

Don't be so unfair, old buddy. Schoedel also hates everyone
who is not white, everyone who is white but who does not agree
with him, and everyone who thinks Elvis is dead. 

I think it has something to do with being 19, and being stuck
in a multicultural world. Or maybe it's just because his
father forgot to use a condom.


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Please let us know when you add this to your archive. Thank you very 
much.
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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Fri May 17 15:20:43 PDT 1996
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From: Kevin Alfred Strom 
Newsgroups: alt.renewing.american.civilization,news.admin.net-abuse.misc,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revolution.counter
Subject: Re: Mail Threat By Anti-Racist -- BWAHAHAHA!!!
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Rich Graves, getting emotional, wrote about the mail bomb threat from =

666@aol.com:

> And the evidence for this person's motives is...? You're really thick.
> =


Could it be that in asking for a mail-bombing of certain individuals and =

groups, whom he describes as "Nazis," his motives might have been to make =

communications harder for these people -- which is exactly what he _said_ =

his motives were?

Anyobne who does a search on 666@aol.com will find other posts in which =

the likely perpetrator's home page url is in the signature file.  =

He uses the same name on this account and others he uses - with the =

same signature file. Access the page and his motives become crystal =

clear. He's a left-wing Jew who, among other things on his page, asks why =

a certain Christian activist hasn't been shot yet.

> >individual is being investigated as I write. As anyone who followed the
> >thread can see, he received some support for his threat.
> =

> Bullshit, Kev. Where? [insults snipped]


I will ignore your gratuitous insults and answer your question "where" =

with a copy of a response to 666@aol.com's threat:

begin copy of message from "Bernard"
----------------------
Subject:      Re: Nazi's on the net???
From:         Bernard 
Date:         1996/05/14
Message-Id:   
X-Nntp-Posting-Host: cartel.westfalen.de
Sender:       news@muenster.westfalen.de (News Sklave)
References:   <4n449n$1v0@dfw-Ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
Organization: O.U.T. Offenes Usenet Team Muenster/Westfalen
Newsgroups:   =

alt.apocalypse,alt.atheism,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.blasphemy,alt.christnet,a=
lt.christnet.second-Coming.real-Soon-Now,alt.drugs.culture,alt.drugs.pot.cu=
ltivation,alt.evil,alt.individualism,alt.pagan,alt.psychoactives,alt.punk,a=
lt.rave,alt.religion.asatru,alt.religion.wicca,alt.satanism,alt.thelema,alt=
=2Evampyres,alt.zen,fidonet.bible,fidonet.church.state,fidonet.magick,rec.d=
rugs.cannabis,rec.drugs.mi


olskool@ix.netcom.com (Antonio) wrote:
>
> In <31951B77.2446@aol.com> Hit and Run <666@aol.com> writes: =

> =

> >
> >Let's make racist Internet Recruiting a bit Harder
> >
> >Several monts ago, I began collecting the addresses of openly racist =

> >groups on the net.  I'm sure there are plenty more.  I was planning =

> >on SPAMing them harsh and hopefully overflowing their accounts.  =

> >However it is finals time, and I have no time to do this.  Hopefully =

> >someone else will help with the job.  (addresses are matched with =

> >names of orgs in order.) Feel free to help by sending huge pics and =

> >other assorted things. Help the effort by cross posting this to =

> >spread the word. =

> >
> >metzger@cts.com                                                         =
                                             White Aryan Restance
> >listserv@stormfront.org                                                 =
                             STORMFRONT
> >bf221@freenet.carleton.ca                                               =
             Aryan News Agency
> >cpn@echo-on.net                                                         =
                                                                       =

                      Aryan News Agency
> >dblack@mail.stormfront.org                                              =
             Stormfront
> >cn247@FreeNet.Carleton.CA         Aryan Crusader
> >an209340@anon.penet.fi            kkk independent group
> >amren@clever.net                 Aryan Resistance
> >FreeCSA@aol.com               Southern
> >bewise@pixi.com                                        Be Wise as Serpan=
ts
> >watchman@stormfront.org      Watchman - "We are living in the           =
               =

> >                   kingdom, and it's time to take out the trash."
> >
> >ezundel@cts.com              Zundel - "Hollacust Revisionism"
> >tmw@nilenet.com              America Worldwide
> >an369729@anon.penet.fi       British Nationalists
> >ping@anon.penet.fi           British Nationalists
> >help@anon.penet.fi                                               British=
 Nationalists
> >ihrgreg@kaiwan.com  Historical Nationalists(Hollacaust Revisionists)
> >cn247@FreeNet.Carleton.CA    Aryan Crusader
> >webmaster@cbn.org                                                       =
                             The 700 club
> >amfamily@ebicom.net                  American Family Association
> >nclement1@aol.com                                    American Family Ass=
ociation
> >nac@ebicom.net                                                       Ame=
rican Family Association
> >
> =

> Just call them the "Netzi's"!  :)))

MHHH seems like a nice idea (and maybe you should go ahead and do it
if you have the time or anybody..else..but how about this..*
I HATE National Socialism..(or any other form of Socialism maybe
more then you do..but do you think mixed up..people..with wrong
opinions..dont have the right to hear a good argument instead of
bla bla..and stuff getting loaded down..on there sites..(do you
want to make the folks from the radical left..feel as if the
are martyr=B4s..and as if you have no good solid ideas and arguments
to bring forward towards them..(dont you think that would be
just what would happen..they could post things righ back as well;)

NOW:dont get me wrong..send any opnion or message or pic..to anybody
you like..and if you thing you can make a Difference..by doin that
go ahead..(but can ya? can we?)



Greetings from

Germany

Robert!!!

---------------
end copy of message from "Bernard"


And Rich, what about this? Is this support for the idea of mail-bombing =

or not? Tell us!

begin copy of message from "God Inc."
---------------------------
Subject:      Re: Nazi's on the net???
From:         jlee1@gramps.clarku.edu (God Inc.)
Date:         1996/05/14
Message-Id:   <14MAY96.22323370@gramps.clarku.edu>
References:   <4n449n$1v0@dfw-Ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> =


Organization: Clark University
Newsgroups:   =

alt.apocalypse,alt.atheism,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.blasphemy,alt.christnet,a=
lt.christnet.second-Coming.real-Soon-Now,alt.drugs.culture,alt.drugs.pot.cu=
ltivation,alt.evil,alt.individualism,alt.pagan,alt.psychoactives,alt.punk,a=
lt.rave,alt.religio


In a previous article, Bernard  wrote:
->olskool@ix.netcom.com (Antonio) wrote:
->>
->> In <31951B77.2446@aol.com> Hit and Run <666@aol.com> writes: =

->> =

->> >
->> >Let's make racist Internet Recruiting a bit Harder
->> >
->> >Several monts ago, I began collecting the addresses of openly racist =

->> >groups on the net.  I'm sure there are plenty more.  I was planning =

->> >on SPAMing them harsh and hopefully overflowing their accounts.  =

->> >However it is finals time, and I have no time to do this.  Hopefully =

->> >someone else will help with the job.  (addresses are matched with =

->> >names of orgs in order.) Feel free to help by sending huge pics and =

->> >other assorted things. Help the effort by cross posting this to =

->> >spread the word. =

->> >
->> >metzger@cts.com                                                     =

                                               White Aryan Restance
->> >listserv@stormfront.org                                             =

                               STORMFRONT
->> >bf221@freenet.carleton.ca                                           =

               Aryan News Agency
->> >cpn@echo-on.net                                                     =

                                                                         =

                      Aryan News Agency
->> >dblack@mail.stormfront.org                                          =

               Stormfront
->> >cn247@FreeNet.Carleton.CA         Aryan Crusader
->> >an209340@anon.penet.fi            kkk independent group
->> >amren@clever.net                 Aryan Resistance
->> >FreeCSA@aol.com               Southern
->> >bewise@pixi.com                                      Be Wise as =

Serpants
->> >watchman@stormfront.org      Watchman - "We are living in the       =

                 =

->> >                   kingdom, and it's time to take out the trash."
->> >
->> >ezundel@cts.com              Zundel - "Hollacust Revisionism"
->> >tmw@nilenet.com              America Worldwide
->> >an369729@anon.penet.fi       British Nationalists
->> >ping@anon.penet.fi           British Nationalists
->> >help@anon.penet.fi                                                  =

   British Nationalists
->> >ihrgreg@kaiwan.com  Historical Nationalists(Hollacaust Revisionists)
->> >cn247@FreeNet.Carleton.CA    Aryan Crusader
->> >webmaster@cbn.org                                                   =

                               The 700 club
->> >amfamily@ebicom.net                        American Family =

Association
->> >nclement1@aol.com                                  American Family =

Association
->> >nac@ebicom.net                                                     =

American Family Association
->> >
->> =

->> Just call them the "Netzi's"!  :)))
-> =

->NOW:dont get me wrong..send any opnion or message or pic..to anybody
->you like..and if you thing you can make a Difference..by doin that
->go ahead..(but can ya? can we?)
->Greetings from
->Germany
->Robert!!!

Not to mention the fact that most of these people have an amazing amount =

of =

quota because they run their own systems, and it would most likely take =

days =

and days of continuous bombing to actually damage their accounts.
However, the trick to bombing someone is to send a single line message as =

many =

times as possible, so as to cram as many things into the smallest space =

possible. That way, the victim won't even have enough space left to =

delete or =

reply, and they will have to wipe their entire account, or at least parts =

of =

it.

Foe.

-------------------------
end copy of message from "God Inc."


There you have it.



> =

> Article <4n6luh$j5n@news1.t1.usa.pipeline.com>:
> =

> |A couple people have written in to say that some of these are not
> |actually Nazi sites, but public service and anonymous adresses. Whoever
> |the guy was who posted the original message, he is only trying to get us=

> |to make trouble that he is too lazy to make himself. Or, perhaps, he is
> |trying to get us into trouble. I think we should just ignore him and his=

> |request from now on.
> |
> |Mickey
> =

> That's what the response was. All Message-IDs in that thread are:
> =

>  <19960512.134119.94@tcpaae62.tcp.co.uk>
>  <4n71es$a69@news.ios.com>
>  <4n6a24$l7r@pravda.aa.msen.com>
>  <4n7lpj$p3l@sanjuan.islandnet.com>
>  <4n449n$1v0@dfw-ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
>  <4n6hbe$gqh@news1.t1.usa.pipeline.com>
>  <4n63mf$1op@nuntius.u-net.net>
>  <4n74f1$hge@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
>  <4n6luh$j5n@news1.t1.usa.pipeline.com>
> =

> None of them are supportive. Most realize it was a troll. Have any friend=
s
> is Massachusetts?
> =


You left some out, Rich. Mistake?

"None are supportive" -- really? Could it be you made a mistake, or ...?

"Have any friends is Massachusetts?" -- You're getting emotional and =

ungrammatical, Rich.

I think you meant to imply that _I_ am somehow responsible for the =

original post. Care to give your "evidence" for this assertion?



> Someone posts to "alt.christnet.second-coming.real-soon-now" calling
> "ping@anon.penet.fi" a British racist and you interpret it as a serious
> anti-racist mailbomb threat? What a loon.


More newsgroups than that -- and I don't care what his choice of places =

to troll for "anti-racists" is: he made the threat. And his collection of =

addresses was not exhaustive or entirely accurate -- what do you expect? =

He made the threat and asked others to commit the act.



Kevin Alfred Strom

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                   Patriotic Resistance:
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                  http://www.natall.com/


From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Thu May 23 00:11:58 PDT 1996
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From: Kevin Alfred Strom 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white
Subject: Re: NEWSFLASH: Rev. Ron Resigns!!!!
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Andrew Mathis wrote:
> 
> I hope you die.
> 
> Love,
> Andrew
> 

What a believer in and practitioner of, free and open debate! What 
a light to the nations! What a fighter against hate and 
intolerance! 

Andrew, I had such high hopes for you. And you are exceeding them every 
day!



> "Rev. Ronald C. Schoedel"  wrote:
> 
> >To all whom it concerns (those who have had contact with Rev. Ron
> >Schoedel, of Christian Identity Online):[resignation announcement of Ron Schoedel]
> >God grant me grace and wisdom.
> 
> >Humbly, in His service,
> 
> >Rev. Ronald C. Schoedel, III
> 
> -------------------------------------
> "If they give you ruled paper,
> Write the other way."
>                --Pee Wee Herman

With all good wishes,

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Thu May 23 00:11:58 PDT 1996
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Susan Marie Groppi wrote:

> 
> Right.  Les, I believe Dave requested that you provide some legitimate
> sources on African history, because otherwise it's painfully obvious that
> you make all of this up as you go along.  Clever of you to skip that bit
> of his post, but we're not -that- stupid.  Come on, African history.  Now.
> 
>                 -- Susan
> 
> 

African history, and quick!

Well, what written sub-Saharan African history there is commenced with 
the arrival of literate races, and that was quite recently in the big 
scheme of things.

Neither the Congoids nor the Capoids possessed a written language prior 
to the arrival of other races.

Dr. John R. Baker writes in _Race_, (Oxford University Press, New York 
and London, 1974. page 394):

"There was no written language in any part of the secluded area, and 
indeed it was found difficult to convey to the native inhabitants the 
idea of what was meant by it. The Ovambo frankly disbelieved that Galton 
could express words by writing on paper, and he had to prove that this 
was possible by jotting down the names of a number of people and then 
reading them out. Livingstone says of the Makololo that 'It seems to them 
supernatural that we see in a book things taking place, or having 
occurred, at a distance.'

"... Speke writes of the Wanyamwezi (Ka) that 'There are no historical 
traditions known to the people.' The Ovherero kept no count of years. 
Baker generalizes on this subject by saying that the natives of Central 
Africa '...are not only ignorant of writing but they are without 
traditions -- their thoughts are as entirely engrossed by their daily 
wants as those of animals; thus there is no clue to the distant past; 
history has no existence.'"

The secluded area referred to is Black Africa itself, excluding areas 
ruled over or intermixed with other races.

Africans did have kinds of non-written "history," I suppose. There was 
the crude representation of a footprint, 170 miles inland from Loanda, 
cited by the natives as commemorating the visit of a "famous queen."  But 
is difficult to see how such things can add much to this debate, except 
to the extent that they confirm Mr. Griswold's point.

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Andrew Mathis wrote:

> 
> When will you dumb-f**k Polish assholes realize that HITLER KILLED 3
> MILLION POLISH GENTILES IN THE CAMPS SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY WERE
> POLISH!!!!!
> 
> Nationalism is the way up the crematorium stack for the Pole.  Sorry,
> bubbie.
> 

Why would any White nationalist want to harm White Polish people? I 
certainly don't.

Why would any Polish nationalist want his own people killed? What are you 
smoking, Andrew?

And might I suggest that your description of Polish People as "dumb-f**k 
Polish a**h**es" is hardly going to win you any support in Warsaw.

Good luck!

> -------------------------------------
> "If they give you ruled paper,
> Write the other way."
>                --Gmo. Francisco Franco

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Andrew Mathis wrote:
> 
> Let's clarify between net terrorism, which is non-violent, but perhaps
> at most cost-effective, though nonetheless illegal, and violent
> terrorism, shall we?
> 

> >> >metzger@cts.com                                                                                                        White Aryan Restance
> 
> Responsible for the murder of an Ethiopian immigrant in Portland, OR.
> Presently paying off a $12.5 million judgment to the victim's family.
> 

About as responsible as the Pope is for the shooting of abortionists.


> >> >listserv@stormfront.org                                                                                STORMFRONT
> 
> Don Black served 2-5 in a Federal Pen. for planning to invade the
> island nation of Dominica and install a fascist dictatorship there.
> 

Terrorism? Where is your evidence for terrorism? Ol' George Bush and 
Frankie Roosevelt, I seem to recall, set up a few coups in their day, 
too, though somehow they escaped the Federal pen.

 
> Mark Thomas, who runs this site, advocates the mass murder of Jews
> when the Messiah returns; he's stated this on national television.


Never heard of him. Enlighten me with proof and citations; I'm truly 
interested. He sounds insane from your description.



> >                  http://www.natvan.com/
> >                  http://www.natall.com/
> 
> William L. Pierce is responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing, as
> well as the terrorist acts of the Order.  These are his websites.
> 

That's the loopiest claim of all. How exactly is William Pierce 
responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing? Because those eeevil White 
Nazis McVeigh and Nichols, one of whom is married to a non-White, read 
the novel that Pierce wrote almost 20 years ago? Did they also watch "The 
Winds of War" or "Jeopardy"?

The novel, I admit, contains scenes of bombings and shootings and sex, 
just like Tom Clancy's.

Pierce had nothing to do with the acts of the Bruder Schweigen, and I am 
sure would have advised against their course of action had he been asked. 
I am sure that the prosecutors in the case would be very interested in 
your secret information, however. Please post it, too.


> Now  who's the REAL terrorist?
> -------------------------------------

The government of Israel and Janet Reno spring immediately to mind.


> "If they give you ruled paper,
> Write the other way."
>                --Juan Peron


Keep'em coming, Andrew!

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Andrew Mathis wrote, made-in-Israel calculator near at hand:


> 
> Wow, this is REALLY idiotic, even for the Hubers.
> [irrelevancies snipped]
> >*********************************************
> 
> >May 15, 1996
> >_American Goes on Trial in Hamburg_
> 
> >Gary Rex Lauck is finally getting his day in court. Lauck, a U.S. citizen,
> 
> >was taken into custody by Danish police in March 1995 in response to a
> >German warrant for his arrest and extradited to Germany five months
> >later
> >after he exhausted all possibilities for appeal (cf. TWIG 4/7/95, p.2;
> >9/8/95, p.2). On Thursday (May 9), he went on trial in Hamburg for
> >incitement to violence and hatred (Volksverhetzung) and 37 other offenses.
> 
> He broke German law, he pays the price in Germany.   C'est la vie.
> 


So if it is illegal to question Communism in China, but I criticise it 
anyway, sending anti-Communist literature to my friends in various 
countries, it would be OK for China to put pressure on a nearby 
government, have me arrested in say, Singapore, and put me on trial in 
Beijing for violating Chinese law WHILE I WAS IN THE UNITED STATES?

Some supporter of freedom you are! Some "light to the nations"!


> > The case has attracted widespread
> >attention
> >not only because of the person Lauck, but because it illustrates the
> >differences between the U.S. concept of unrestricted free speech and the
> >German system, which forbids neo-Nazi propaganda. If sentenced, Lauck
> >could
> >face up to five years in a German prison.
> 
> Good; I hope some big ugly hun named Gunther takes him up the poop
> chute.
> 

Are you purposely trying to make my case, Andrew? How tolerant and 
democratic you are, how deeeeply concerned for everyone's human rights 
and due process you are! I'm really impressed.

Are you secretly working for Israel Shahak?



> >************************************************
> 
> >Date: Tuesday, 14-May-96 01:24 PM
> 
> >I received the following from a reader in Switzerland who took the
> >information below from a regular news wire.
> 
> >". . . Fifty years after the end of the Second World War, a total of 5,
> >570
> >cases in which individuals are suspected of having committed crimes
> >during
> >the National Socialist regime remain unresolved, Minister of Justice
> >Edward
> >Schmidt-Joertzig (FDP) announced in late February at the presentation of
> >Germany's first national compilation of statistics on the prosecution of
> >Nazi crimes.
> 
> > 'The data show,' Schmidt-Joertzig said, 'that prosecutors still take
> >the
> >task of bringing those responsible for the horrendous crimes of the
> >Hitler
> >dictatorship to justice seriously. . . '"
> 
> >According to this correspondent, Germany has prosecuted 106,178 (!)
> >persons
> >since 1945.  6,494 were convicted.  This amounts to a conviction rate of
> >6.12% (!)  And I would like to add that many were convicted in the
> >immediate
> >postwar era when the "eye witness" testimony and affidavits were
> >massively
> >faked and could seldom be verified.
> 
> You cretins can't even do math.  It's less than 1 percent.
> 

Hmmm... 6,494 divided by 106,178 is .06116  ...that _is_ 6.12 per cent., 
Andrew. What _are_ you smoking? Or is it more "Jewish math" that your 
race employed so skilfully after 1945? You just gotta believe....!

You need a rest, Andrew. Really.



> 
> >Ingrid
> 
> That's Ingrid Rimland of San Diego, CA folks.  I personally exposed
> her to the ADL and the mainstream press.  She'll never sell a book to
> a major publisher again.


You are living proof of everything that I am trying to say about 
organized Jewry, Andrew. I think you're great. Keep 'em coming!


> >********************************************
> Hasta luego.
> 
> -------------------------------------
> "If they give you ruled paper,
> Write the other way."
>                --Ronald Wilson Reagan


With all good wishes to everyone, especially Israel Shahak and Andrew 
Mathis,

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Andrew Mathis wrote:
> 
> I hope you die.
> 
> Love,
> Andrew
> 

What a believer in and practitioner of, free and open debate! What 
a light to the nations! What a fighter against hate and 
intolerance! 

Andrew, I had such high hopes for you. And you are exceeding them every 
day!



> "Rev. Ronald C. Schoedel"  wrote:
> 
> >To all whom it concerns (those who have had contact with Rev. Ron
> >Schoedel, of Christian Identity Online):[resignation announcement of Ron Schoedel]
> >God grant me grace and wisdom.
> 
> >Humbly, in His service,
> 
> >Rev. Ronald C. Schoedel, III
> 
> -------------------------------------
> "If they give you ruled paper,
> Write the other way."
>                --Pee Wee Herman

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[also sent via e-mail]

Dear Ken McVay:

You recently stated that you would add this message by you to your Ron
Schoedel archive, which you have been promoting.

I found it on DejaNews, and here it is:

begin message by Ken McVay
-----------------------
Subject:      Schoedel hates everyone..
From:         kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
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In article <4jkblg$anf@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,
freshagain@aol.com (FreshAgain) wrote:

>Ron Schoedel hates my guts.  This is because I'm a Jew.

Don't be so unfair, old buddy. Schoedel also hates everyone
who is not white, everyone who is white but who does not agree
with him, and everyone who thinks Elvis is dead.

I think it has something to do with being 19, and being stuck
in a multicultural world. Or maybe it's just because his
father forgot to use a condom.


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Susan Marie Groppi wrote:

> 
> Right.  Les, I believe Dave requested that you provide some legitimate
> sources on African history, because otherwise it's painfully obvious that
> you make all of this up as you go along.  Clever of you to skip that bit
> of his post, but we're not -that- stupid.  Come on, African history.  Now.
> 
>                 -- Susan
> 
> 

African history, and quick!

Well, what written sub-Saharan African history there is commenced with 
the arrival of literate races, and that was quite recently in the big 
scheme of things.

Neither the Congoids nor the Capoids possessed a written language prior 
to the arrival of other races.

Dr. John R. Baker writes in _Race_, (Oxford University Press, New York 
and London, 1974. page 394):

"There was no written language in any part of the secluded area, and 
indeed it was found difficult to convey to the native inhabitants the 
idea of what was meant by it. The Ovambo frankly disbelieved that Galton 
could express words by writing on paper, and he had to prove that this 
was possible by jotting down the names of a number of people and then 
reading them out. Livingstone says of the Makololo that 'It seems to them 
supernatural that we see in a book things taking place, or having 
occurred, at a distance.'

"... Speke writes of the Wanyamwezi (Ka) that 'There are no historical 
traditions known to the people.' The Ovherero kept no count of years. 
Baker generalizes on this subject by saying that the natives of Central 
Africa '...are not only ignorant of writing but they are without 
traditions -- their thoughts are as entirely engrossed by their daily 
wants as those of animals; thus there is no clue to the distant past; 
history has no existence.'"

The secluded area referred to is Black Africa itself, excluding areas 
ruled over or intermixed with other races.

Africans did have kinds of non-written "history," I suppose. There was 
the crude representation of a footprint, 170 miles inland from Loanda, 
cited by the natives as commemorating the visit of a "famous queen."  But 
is difficult to see how such things can add much to this debate, except 
to the extent that they confirm Mr. Griswold's point.

All the best,

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Brendan J. F. Scallon wrote:
> 
> OK, if you thought you two can get away from dodging Ken's questions
> here are some of my own.


Just for fun, I'll give my answers.


> 
> 1) Can you come up with a source that does not come from pre-1930s
> pseudoscience books or relies on such sources that says that Blacks
> are a different species?  It also cannot be a source from Michael
> Levin nor Charles Murray.
> 


Gosh, a lot of restrictions there! I suggest Carleton Coon's _Origin of 
Races_ (Knopf, 1962), _The Living Races of Man_ (Knopf, 1965), and John 
Baker's _Race_ (Oxford U. Press, 1974). Read them and decide for 
yourself if the subraces ought to be assigned to different species.

Coon was president of the American Association of Physical 
Anthropologists; and Baker was Emeritus Reader in Cytology at Oxford 
University.


> 2) If Blacks are not of the same species, how come I as an Irish
> American have the same blood type as 35% of persons of African descent.
> 

And why do you share nearly all of your genetic structure with a 
chimpanzee -- and share the vast majority of your genetic structure with 
a horse? Those small differences are _very important_ differences.



> 3) If Blacks are not of the same species, can you come up with any
> other species that if you mate together without genetic engineering,
> you will get an offspring from that.
> 

Yes. Bison and domestic cattle. Lions and tigers. Horses and donkeys. 
Dogs and wolves. Do you want some more?



> 4) All this talk about Black women being "like water buffaloes" is
> the basis for this next question; if Black women are supposed to be
> the ugliest women around, how come in the past 6 years, 50% of the
> Miss USAs have African ancestry; 2 of them (Carole Gist and Kenya
> Moore) being darker than a brown paper bag?  The second part of
> the question, name a full figured white gentile who is considered
> as one of the most attractive females around (there are several
> Blacks in this category i.e. Kim Coles, Star Jones, Queen Latifah,
> Nell Carter; almost all the Ms. Big America winners have been of
> African descent)?
> 

You can't be serious. You actually follow the "Ms. Big America" contest? 
You put any faith in the judgement of these commercial enterprises as to 
the measurement of female beauty?

Congoids have different standards of beauty than Aryans. They say so 
themselves. Everted lips -- protruding glutea maxima -- prognathous jaws 
-- wide, flat noses -- kinky hair -- dark skin -- all positive attributes 
>from  their point of view.




> 5)  As for your remarks about the "Anglo-Saxon, Celtic,... peoples"
> being the chosen people, how am I, as a culturally conscious Irish
> American, supposed to believe that the Anglo-Saxon race, the race
> responsible for eight centuries of illegitimate occupation, captiv-
> ity, enslavement, rape, torture and murder of my people, is now my
> racial brother?
> 


The mistreatment of the Irish, and more recently the Boers and the 
Germans, by the British Empire has no bearing on the fact that all these 
peoples belong to the same race. If I sock my brother, does that mean I'm 
not related to him?



> 6)  Show me where does the Bible show that Jesus was a Northern
> European; why else would Jesus proclaim his Judaism to a Samaritan
> woman when he asked for a drink?  If you notice, back in that time
> there was no sunblock nor sunscreen; a blond/blue-eyed/fair skinned
> person would never have survived the Israelite summers.
> 


Since the "Bible" has never been shown to be an accurate document in any 
important respect, and the existence of a single individual named "Jesus 
Christ" described in said collection of books is highly debatable; I fail 
to see the relevance of the question.



> 7)  If the Jews were not the people described in the Bible, then how
> come they are the only ones that are following the dietary laws found
> in Leviticus and the other laws found in that book.  Explain to me
> when you guys observe Passover (described in Exodus), Purim (explained
> in Esther) and Chanukkah (described in 1 and 2 Maccabees).  Explain
> to me how David, Josiah and Jesus all celebrated the same festivals
> in the same way.
> 



Read Dr. Martin Larson's _The Story of Christian Origins_, and you'll all 
get straightened out.



> 8)  If you believe that the White race is the "Adamic race", then ex-
> plain that if you look at the genealogy of all man, it shows that we
> are all descended from one BLACK female.
> 


The "one Black female" idea is a gross oversimplification of a highly 
questionable theory. Even if it was true, however, it can't change the 
fact that the pre-humans or early humans who migrated out of Africa 
evolved differently from those who stayed. And, after all, we are also 
related to a tadpole-like creature that emerged from the ancient seas 
many millennia ago. So?



> 9)  How do you explain the several corpses of millions of Jews in the
> "relocation camps" that we had to bury when we liberated the camps in
> Europe?  My father knew some people who liberated the camps and saw the
> carnage firsthand.  Gen Eisenhower invited all members of Congress to
> see the gore that he saw.
> 


Please quote and cite your reference for your statement that the Allies 
had to bury _millions of corpses_ found at German concentration camps.

In a war that both sides saw as a fight for survival, extremely 
unpleasant things were certainly done by both sides. The problem is that 
we seldom get a balanced view.


> 10)  How come the chief masterminds of the Final Solution admit that
> they were trying to wipe out the Jews in Europe and they "were follow-
> ing orders?"
> 


Please provide a quote from a "chief mastermind" supporting your 
statement that they "were following orders" etc.


> 11)  According to the Talmud, "Man cannot be God and God cannot be Man";
> this is one of the only theological divisions that separate Catholicism
> from Orthodox Judaism.  If the Orthodox Jews reversed this teaching, the
> two religions would then become the same in basic theology.  How do you
> then conclude that because of this one difference, that Judaism
> would be considered a "synagogue of evil?"  Christ did not talk about
> the Jews in that Bible verse; he talked about the corrupt religious offic-
> ials who were practicing contrary to what they were preaching, which is the
> exact thing you two are doing right now.
> 

According to the Talmud, the Jews are the only true humans. Talmud, Torah 
-- all irrational and sometimes genocidal ravings. I'm happy to observe 
that some Jews have the courage to expose this.



With good wishes,

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"Caesar" wrote:

> 
> Live with the fact that racism is dying.
> 


As long as there are races there will be "racism." It is inborn, has an 
evolutionary purpose and survival value, and is even present in non-human 
species. Racial feelings are about as likely to disappear as are sexual 
feelings.

Actually, racism is good and necessary for the continued branching off of 
new types of human beings from the existing stocks. Evolution, so far as 
we know, operates primarily by such branching, and racial feelings are an 
important part of what keeps the branches apart. At some point, homo 
sapiens sapiens refused to breed with the sub-men around him.

Mallards and wood ducks can interbreed, and may even do so under certain 
freak conditions, but the mentality of the ducks, even when they live in 
the same territory, makes them shun the other type. The branches, once 
one, are now separate for all time. Most Whites -- even most liberal 
Whites -- instinctively shun Blacks as neighbors, school mates, and bed 
mates. This is good and natural and really has nothing at all to do with 
the emotion of hate.

Evolution, branching and separation have brought about all the wonderful 
diversity of creation that we see around us. It is Nature's way.

With good wishes to all,


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Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> 
> In article <4oehl8$4sj@freenet-news.carleton.ca>,
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
> >The liberals must just HATE the mere mention of this sort of thing, which
> >they cannot even BEGIN to refute.
> 
> Perhaps the coward and liar Griswold can explain what this has to do with
> the questions he's been asked and refused to answer.
> 
> JGB
> 
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown                                   jeff_brown@pol.com
>  "What's going to happen?"   "Something wonderful..."   -- '2010'



Perhaps the disingenuous Mr. Brown can explain what this has to do with 
the topic at hand: M Ourobouros' suggestion that we celebrate our 
"diversity" by adopting the wonderful ways of the Polynesians, who are 
certainly our equals because... why, because everyone is our equal!

Faithfully,
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Les Griswold wrote:

> 
> <31A908D6.7B9E@ix.netcom.com> Organization: The National Capital FreeNet
> 
> Kevin Alfred Strom (ka_strom@ix.netcom.com) writes:
> > Brendan J. F. Scallon wrote:
> 
> (snip)
> 
> >> 4) All this talk about Black women being "like water buffaloes" is
> >> the basis for this next question; if Black women are supposed to be
> >> the ugliest women around, how come in the past 6 years, 50% of the
> >> Miss USAs have African ancestry; 2 of them (Carole Gist and Kenya
> >> Moore) being darker than a brown paper bag?  The second part of
> >> the question, name a full figured white gentile who is considered
> >> as one of the most attractive females around (there are several
> >> Blacks in this category i.e. Kim Coles, Star Jones, Queen Latifah,
> >> Nell Carter; almost all the Ms. Big America winners have been of
> >> African descent)?
> >
> > You can't be serious. You actually follow the "Ms. Big America" contest?
> > You put any faith in the judgement of these commercial enterprises as to
> > the measurement of female beauty?
> >
> > Congoids have different standards of beauty than Aryans. They say so
> > themselves. Everted lips -- protruding glutea maxima -- prognathous jaws
> > -- wide, flat noses -- kinky hair -- dark skin -- all positive attributes
> > from their point of view.
> 
> Congoids may SAY that they find typical negress features attractive, but
> their ACTIONS prove otherwise.  Virtually any and all well-to-do negroes
> marry white.
> 
> This is the sort of thing that liberals really hate...
> 
> Les


In their natural state, I believe that few pure-blooded Congoids would 
feel the urge to Aryanize their gene pool. American Blacks, on the other 
hand, are saturated with a media alien to them in which the Aryan ideal 
of beauty is still very much present. And they are also, sadly, saturated 
with European genes. (Carleton Coon, by the way, was persuaded that all 
Congoids had some European ancestry -- that would add weight to your 
argument and tend to discredit mine.)

Everywhere the Aryan has mixed his blood with aliens, the mixed-race 
progeny admire and strive to possess in a sexual sense all that is White.

Examples: Mestizo women in Mexico offer their bodies to White men in the 
hopes of having a light-skinned child. The Mexican ideal of beauty, 
despite talk about Chicano pride and all that, is still the fair-skinned 
and noble-featured Aryan. Take one look at Mexican TV and you will agree 
with me. Martians watching Mexican television from their planet could 
quite reasonably draw the conclusion that Mexico was a nearly all-White 
country, certainly Whiter than the United States.

Read the personal ads in the big cities' "singles" papers. Look for 
lonely hearts of the Indian subcontinent type. You will find an absolute 
obsession with degrees of fairness. And it is quite obvious that these 
people believe that the Whiter the better. Many ads seek mates with "fair 
skin" or "light complexion." Never have I seen one seeking the opposite.

With Negroes in America, of course, one is also dealing with the "punish 
Whitey by ravishing and abusing his women" mentality, so it is probably 
impossible to completely disentangle all the threads of motivation.

With my best regards,

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bob whitaker wrote:
> 
>      I mentioned the Soviet death sentence for anti-semitism,
> and Craig went ballistic.  To a Politically Correct person
> today, that cannot have been because the USSR was officially a
> Bad Thing and therefore could not have had such laws against
> anti-semitism.  Back in the 1960's, when Poltically Correct
> leftists said that the USSR was a Good Thing and the only
> bulwark against evil Americans and their militarism, this death
> sentence was mentioned all the time.  It is never mentioned
> today, and in my little library here I can't find the older
> books that do mention it.
>     So I went back to Solzhenitsyn's *The First Circle* where
> it was mentioned.  The problem is finding that specific mention
> in such a huge book.  Looking it over fairly quickly, I did
> find a mention of a ten-year sentence being given under Stalin
> for using the word "kike".  It is in Chapter 72, "The Party
> Secretary", near the end, page 451 in the l968 Harper and Rowe
> edition.
>     I make this point because Craig Lambert(?) went to pieces
> over the simple qquoting of a fact which he found heretical.
> I don't see it as cruishingly critical to anything, but it
> shows the Inquisition mind-set of the politically Correct, and
> their shrieks that something simply cannot be because it
> violates their current Truth.
>      The thinking that calls itself "anti-racist" very often
> belongs in Orwell's *1984*.


>From  _What Is Communism?_, by Earl Browder, General Secretary, Communist 
Party of the USA (Workers Library Publishers, New York, 1936), appendix, 
"The Communist Election Platform," page 186, paragraph five:


"Anti-Semitic propaganda must be prohibited by law."



The book is also chock-full of "anti-racist" proposals and rhetoric.

Beaty, (_Iron Curtain Over America_, Chestnut Mountain Books, 
Barboursville, Virginia, 1951 -- available from National Vanguard Books) 
in 1951, cites the _Universal Jewish Encyclopedia_, Vol. I, page 386, as 
stating that "in 1935 a court ruled that anti-Semitism in Russia was a 
penal offense."

Rabbi Stephen S. Wise (yes, he of the famous quote, "Some call it Marxism 
-- I call it Judaism.") published _Opinion Magazine_ during the Stalin 
era. From the issue of December 1933, as cited by Elizabeth Dilling (_The 
Octopus_, Omaha, 1940):

"A Jew is commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian Army; a Jew is President of 
the State Bank; Jews occupy almost all important ambassadorial positions 
of the Soviet Union; the universities, professions, judiciary and 
administration, have now a greater percentage of Jews than any other 
nationality. Anti-Semitism has been declared a state offense, and is 
punished as counter-revolution."

Care to guess how Stalin and Co. punished "counter-revolution"?


The late US Army Intelligence Officer Robert H. Williams (_The 
Anti-Defamation League and Its Use in the World Communist Offensive_, 
1947, Flesherton, Ontario) quotes Alexander Bittelman, Jewish member of 
the executive committee of the Communist Party, USA, who stated in _This 
Is the World Revolution_, page 8:

"The democratic Jewish forces will have to bring forth especially the 
fight against anti-Semitism, the fight for identical legislation in each 
state to declare and punish anti-Semitism as a criminal offense."


Louis Levine, national chairman of the Jewish Council of Russian Relief, 
stated in the November 1946 number of _Soviet Russia Today_:

"Special concern for the Jewish people has characterized the Soviet Union 
since its birth in the 1917 Revolution. A week after Tsarism was 
overthrown, the infant Socialist government, headed by Lenin, legally 
abolished national oppression, making it the first country in the world 
to declare anti-Semitism a crime. ...Every manifestation of anti-Semitism 
was fought openly and sternly."


And lastly, from the horse's mouth as it were, Josef Stalin stated in an 
interview published in the _Daily Worker_ of December 12, 1938:

"In the U.S.S.R., anti-Semitism is strictly prosecuted as a phenomenon 
profoundly hostile to the Soviet system. According to the laws of the 
U.S.S.R., active anti-Semites are punished by death."


Let us all reflect on the implications of the foregoing.


-- 


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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Wed May 29 11:01:13 PDT 1996
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Laura Finsten wrote:
> =

> >Perhaps since we believe in everybody
> >being equal all women before they get married should have this done to
> >them.  Perhaps it should be televised so that everybody can watch.
> =

> >If you multi-culturalists find this repulsive then why?  And why should
> >it not be practised?  Afterall you do believe in multi-culturalism and
> >everybody being equal don=92t you?
> =

> Mr. Stone, are these practices still carried out in Samoa today?
> I believe that the answer to that question is "no".  So the question
> then becomes "so what?"  -- unless you would agree that every past
> European practice that is no longer consistent with contemporary
> values somehow reflects on contemporary European "character".  You
> know, things like "the rule of thumb", human sacrifice in the Bronze
> Age, wave after wave of barbaric wars, sweatshop labour practices,
> the burning of "witches", and so on.

I have snipped your gratuitous insults to the original poster.

Yes, past practices of Europeans -- and other races -- do indeed reflect =

on the potentials and behavioral tendencies of each race. Why wouldn't =

they?

And why should we discriminate against cultural practices just because =

they come from another time? That sounds like era-ism to me!

There are, of course, plenty of _current_ practices of non-European =

cultures that could have been cited with just as much effect. Female =

circumcision, the wonderful fun of Santeria, and the main contribution of =

the New South Africa to our world, necklacing as a means of political =

expression.

If the multiculturalists have their way, soon coming to a neighborhood =

near you....

Of course, you failed to note that the arrival and influence of Europeans =

may have had something to do with the putative changes in Samoan marriage =

rituals. And you also did not answer the question posed: Why shouldn't we =

accept this culture as equally valuable compared to our own?



Let's hear it for "contemporary values"...

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Wed May 29 13:41:38 PDT 1996
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Laura Finsten wrote:
> =

> >Perhaps since we believe in everybody
> >being equal all women before they get married should have this done to
> >them.  Perhaps it should be televised so that everybody can watch.
> =

> >If you multi-culturalists find this repulsive then why?  And why should
> >it not be practised?  Afterall you do believe in multi-culturalism and
> >everybody being equal don=92t you?
> =

> Mr. Stone, are these practices still carried out in Samoa today?
> I believe that the answer to that question is "no".  So the question
> then becomes "so what?"  -- unless you would agree that every past
> European practice that is no longer consistent with contemporary
> values somehow reflects on contemporary European "character".  You
> know, things like "the rule of thumb", human sacrifice in the Bronze
> Age, wave after wave of barbaric wars, sweatshop labour practices,
> the burning of "witches", and so on.

I have snipped your gratuitous insults to the original poster.

Yes, past practices of Europeans -- and other races -- do indeed reflect =

on the potentials and behavioral tendencies of each race. Why wouldn't =

they?

And why should we discriminate against cultural practices just because =

they come from another time? That sounds like era-ism to me!

There are, of course, plenty of _current_ practices of non-European =

cultures that could have been cited with just as much effect. Female =

circumcision, the wonderful fun of Santeria, and the main contribution of =

the New South Africa to our world, necklacing as a means of political =

expression.

If the multiculturalists have their way, soon coming to a neighborhood =

near you....

Of course, you failed to note that the arrival and influence of Europeans =

may have had something to do with the putative changes in Samoan marriage =

rituals. And you also did not answer the question posed: Why shouldn't we =

accept this culture as equally valuable compared to our own?



Let's hear it for "contemporary values"...

-- =



Kevin Alfred Strom

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Wed May 29 19:08:59 PDT 1996
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Don R. Bertleson wrote:

> 
> The problem with African Americans is that they are presently destroying
> our cities as they have been doing for 35-50 years. What is confusing is
> that we continue to include these peoples as "pacified Americans" with all
> of the rights and privileges of other American citizens while, at the same
> time, they are destroying everything we have built.
> 
> We continue to sleep with what must be described as our enemies despite
> the obvious observable fact that African Americans continue to tear the
> heart out of our once fine cities. Now, under HUD programs, especially
> Section Eight and scatter housing, the African Americans are invading our
> suburbs to continue wrecking our homes and businesses.
> 
> The African American menace has attacked our cities and suburbs with more
> force than all of the hostile Indian tribes and French/English forces
> combined and organized against us in colonial and post-revolutionary days.
> Yet, we continue to treat our enemy as citizens.[edited for length]
> 
> This entire war would have been unnecessary if the liberals had allowed
> the African Americans to be relocated to their homelands. This can still
> be done. If each African American was giving $20,000 to take to Africa,
> every black country there would bend over backward to welcome them. The
> sum of $20,000 is 50-100 years labor for most Africans.
> 

Well said. It could all be done non-violently if we build on your plan. 
We could even call the payments "reparations for slavery" or whatever the 
Africans wanted to call them.

In fact, with the National Debt at 5 trillion plus, we could even up the 
ante to encourage the emigration of the Congoids. If there are about 30 
million of them, then giving them each (and this includes even every man, 
woman, and child) $100,000 would only cost us $3.3 billion... a pittance 
compared to what we would gain. A welfare mother with 5 offspring would 
get $600,000! A medium-sized gang would get a tax-free $2,000,000! All 
that _plus_ a "get out of jail free" card. How could they refuse?

Actually, we might have a sliding scale -- start at $100,000 per and 
reduce it each year, which might tend to speed the program along. And I 
am in favor of expanding the program to include all non-Whites.

Would it be worth adding over 50 per cent. to the National Debt? You bet! 
Actually, obtaining freedom and self-determination for our people would 
be worth _any_ monetary cost, for our very survival depends upon it.

If we had to pay each one one million dollars to leave, it would be worth 
it.

If we had to give them all the money and all the material wealth of the 
United States to obtain our own territory again, it would be worth it.

If we had to give the Africans all of that and also the entire land area 
of North America, with us receiving only a large tract of undeveloped and 
uninhabited land in Africa -- that would be worth it, too. Having our own 
nation again is worth any cost.

Were we to do that, within one lifetime trees would be pushing up the 
concrete in the middle of Wall Street; and shining cities and spaceports 
would be rising from the plains of Africa.

With thanks for your thoughtful post,

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Wed May 29 19:08:59 PDT 1996
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Erik Ribardiere wrote:
> 
> Since so many white people in America believe in White Power and Nazism
> I laugh at the ignorance portrayed in your views.

[snip snip snip]
> You ask me to choose your
> path. While I am presented with two evils I will choose the one less so.
> My friends and I have controlled various parts of the MG for quite some
> time,


Which parts were those, Henrick? The carburetor and alternator, perhaps?
_Exactly_ how did you control them?


> if our order is to be absolute then we can see that it is. Perhaps
> you have made a choose for us already.


I don't think so!


> 
> Sincerely,
> Henrick Schmaltz



Good luck!

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Wed May 29 19:09:00 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: WHO'S WHITE?
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Perri Natalizio wrote:


> 
> I'm serious - Aryan clubs and groups keep talking about being white  - but
> exactly who do they include in that - they are not only referring to African
> Americans, but also to Jews.
> 
> Does that mean all Asians are not white.  Also, what European or
> Scandinavian countries, or latin (Oh I guess, not latin) but anyway
> which descendants of which country did immigrants come from and
> can claim that they are so white they are whiter than everyone else.?
> 
> I believe this is worthy of discussion.  I always thought I was white
> but now I'm beginning to wonder.  I know some cubans who have skin
> lighter than mine.

"Cuban" is not a race. Several races live on that island.

Many Cubans are White, and some are not. I was involved in the 
construction of the studios of Radio Marti (an anti-Communist station 
broadcasting to Cuba) and met quite a few of the anti-Communist Cubans 
who worked there. Almost all of them were of European ancestry, as White 
as any Anglo-Saxon.

There are quite a few Mulattos and Blacks in Cuba, of course, but the 
group I was associating with was an elite "leader" group which fled 
Communism. The countries of Latin America have a substantial White 
population, who are usually the most eminent among their fellow 
nationals. White percentages vary -- from maybe 10 per cent. in Mexico to 
the vast majority in Argentina and Uruguay. Northern Brazil is mostly 
non-White; extreme southern Brazil is mostly White.

White is a convenient term for "of exclusively European ancestry." A few 
geographic Europeans may show traces of non-European genes, of course, 
but the term "White" generally includes all the European subraces, 
Nordic, Alpine, and Mediterranean, and would exclude those whose 
countenance indicates significant admixture of other races. It would 
exclude virtually all Middle Eastern or North African peoples, all 
Capoids, Congoids and Australoids, and all Asians except Aryan remnants 
such as some of the Kafiri, etc.

With all good wishes,

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Wed May 29 20:39:21 PDT 1996
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"Caesar" wrote:

> 
> Live with the fact that racism is dying.
> 


As long as there are races there will be "racism." It is inborn, has an 
evolutionary purpose and survival value, and is even present in non-human 
species. Racial feelings are about as likely to disappear as are sexual 
feelings.

Actually, racism is good and necessary for the continued branching off of 
new types of human beings from the existing stocks. Evolution, so far as 
we know, operates primarily by such branching, and racial feelings are an 
important part of what keeps the branches apart. At some point, homo 
sapiens sapiens refused to breed with the sub-men around him.

Mallards and wood ducks can interbreed, and may even do so under certain 
freak conditions, but the mentality of the ducks, even when they live in 
the same territory, makes them shun the other type. The branches, once 
one, are now separate for all time. Most Whites -- even most liberal 
Whites -- instinctively shun Blacks as neighbors, school mates, and bed 
mates. This is good and natural and really has nothing at all to do with 
the emotion of hate.

Evolution, branching and separation have brought about all the wonderful 
diversity of creation that we see around us. It is Nature's way.

With good wishes to all,


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Laura Finsten wrote:

> 
> >I have snipped your gratuitous insults to the original poster.
> 
> And what insult would that be, Mr. Strom?  I asked a question and quoted
> a passage from the same book that Mr. Stone drew this material from.
> 


You implied that the original poster was reading literature for morons 
designed to titillate with tales of nekkid savage ladies.



> >Yes, past practices of Europeans -- and other races -- do indeed reflect
> >on the potentials and behavioral tendencies of each race. Why wouldn't
> >they?
> 
> Perhaps they wouldn't because "race" and "culture" are not synonymous.
> Does this mean that Airyen Europeans have a propensity for violence
> as much as any other human group, as is evident in past European
> practices such as witch-burning, human sacrifice, and a history of
> warfare that may be unrivalled anywhere else in the world?
> 


Yes, well, "race" and "house"  and "race" and "sculpture" are also not 
synonymous; but races build houses and create sculptures and cultures, 
often in very distinctive forms that have their roots in the deepest 
essence of each race.

Other animals certainly inherit many of their behavioral tendencies, so 
it seems quite unreasonable to assume that we are the sole exception in 
this regard. Everyday observation confirms that the races differ in 
temperament and behavioral tendencies to a significant degree.

You have a very distorted picture of what White separatists believe. Yes, 
of course, I acknowledge that Whites are a warrior people. And yes, of 
course, I acknowledge that a strong strain of irrational religious 
fanaticism "runs in our family." In fact, I believe that the powerful 
imagination we possess is a two-edged sword: it can lead to great 
creations and discoveries in the arts and sciences; it leads to our 
marvellous literature of the fantastic; but it also can lead to losing 
the ability to distinguish between our fantasies, wishful or otherwise, 
and what is actually occurring in the real world. (Hence we have the "New 
Agers," the various universal religions, and political liberalism.)

Far be it from me to say that the European race is the final or highest 
possible achievement of Nature on this planet. Far from it. But we have 
approached greatness from time to time, and we have raised ourselves 
above savagery and ignorance by at least a few inches. Our gene pool and 
our culture are worthy of preservation for the _possibilities_ inherent 
in them, not because we are "perfect" or a "master race" or a "chosen 
people" right now.

I agree with Nietzsche when he said (I am paraphrasing):

"What is the ape to man? A laughingstock and an embarrassment. So also to 
the superman, will man be a laughingstock and an embarrassment."


Mr O was trying to illustrate, with an extreme example, what we give up 
when we succumb to absolute cultural relativism.

Our society once protected (admittedly in an imperfect way) the gene pool 
that produced Da Vinci, Aristotle, Mozart, Beethoven, and the 
builders of the Saturn V rocket. It doesn't anymore. The 
multiculturalists and multiracialists are in the ascendant in the West 
and promulgate a moral paradigm in which defense of our gene pool is evil 
("racist"). This, in my view, is destructive, even genocidal.

With all good wishes,

-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

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Laura Finsten wrote:

> 
> >I have snipped your gratuitous insults to the original poster.
> 
> And what insult would that be, Mr. Strom?  I asked a question and quoted
> a passage from the same book that Mr. Stone drew this material from.
> 


You implied that the original poster was reading literature for morons 
designed to titillate with tales of nekkid savage ladies.



> >Yes, past practices of Europeans -- and other races -- do indeed reflect
> >on the potentials and behavioral tendencies of each race. Why wouldn't
> >they?
> 
> Perhaps they wouldn't because "race" and "culture" are not synonymous.
> Does this mean that Airyen Europeans have a propensity for violence
> as much as any other human group, as is evident in past European
> practices such as witch-burning, human sacrifice, and a history of
> warfare that may be unrivalled anywhere else in the world?
> 


Yes, well, "race" and "house"  and "race" and "sculpture" are also not 
synonymous; but races build houses and create sculptures and cultures, 
often in very distinctive forms that have their roots in the deepest 
essence of each race.

Other animals certainly inherit many of their behavioral tendencies, so 
it seems quite unreasonable to assume that we are the sole exception in 
this regard. Everyday observation confirms that the races differ in 
temperament and behavioral tendencies to a significant degree.

You have a very distorted picture of what White separatists believe. Yes, 
of course, I acknowledge that Whites are a warrior people. And yes, of 
course, I acknowledge that a strong strain of irrational religious 
fanaticism "runs in our family." In fact, I believe that the powerful 
imagination we possess is a two-edged sword: it can lead to great 
creations and discoveries in the arts and sciences; it leads to our 
marvellous literature of the fantastic; but it also can lead to losing 
the ability to distinguish between our fantasies, wishful or otherwise, 
and what is actually occurring in the real world. (Hence we have the "New 
Agers," the various universal religions, and political liberalism.)

Far be it from me to say that the European race is the final or highest 
possible achievement of Nature on this planet. Far from it. But we have 
approached greatness from time to time, and we have raised ourselves 
above savagery and ignorance by at least a few inches. Our gene pool and 
our culture are worthy of preservation for the _possibilities_ inherent 
in them, not because we are "perfect" or a "master race" or a "chosen 
people" right now.

I agree with Nietzsche when he said (I am paraphrasing):

"What is the ape to man? A laughingstock and an embarrassment. So also to 
the superman, will man be a laughingstock and an embarrassment."


Mr O was trying to illustrate, with an extreme example, what we give up 
when we succumb to absolute cultural relativism.

Our society once protected (admittedly in an imperfect way) the gene pool 
that produced Da Vinci, Aristotle, Mozart, Beethoven, and the 
builders of the Saturn V rocket. It doesn't anymore. The 
multiculturalists and multiracialists are in the ascendant in the West 
and promulgate a moral paradigm in which defense of our gene pool is evil 
("racist"). This, in my view, is destructive, even genocidal.

With all good wishes,

-- 


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Craig Lambert wrote:

> >
> >And lastly, from the horse's mouth as it were, Josef Stalin stated in an
> >interview published in the _Daily Worker_ of December 12, 1938:
> >
> >"In the U.S.S.R., anti-Semitism is strictly prosecuted as a phenomenon
> >profoundly hostile to the Soviet system. According to the laws of the
> >U.S.S.R., active anti-Semites are punished by death."
> >
> Yes.  It would never do to doubt the word of Iosif Stalin: he could no
> more lie about his policies than the face of the moon could reflect
> light from the sun.  Let's see, at the time, Russia was facing a
> re-arming Germany ruled by the anti-semetic dictator Adolf Hitler.
> Stalin, having not yet signed an alliance with Hitler, was leading the
> fight against Fascism on all fronts.  Why would he claim to be
> adamantly against whatever Hitler was for?  Hmm.
> >
> >Let us all reflect on the implications of the foregoing.
> >
> Yeah.  What was the law again?  The one that imposed the death penalty
> for anti-semetism?  Oh, and what about the "Doctor's Plot" shortly
> before his death, when Stalin began arresting mostly Jews, began
> uncovering Zionist plots and cliques, began purging the party and the
> government of Jews?  Did Stalin subsequently kill himself upon
> realizing he'd commited the henious crime of being anti-semetic?
> >


Gosh, Mr. Lambert, you seem really upset.

The question wasn't that Communists lie and kill their own whenever their 
version of power politics makes it expedient to do so. We all knew that.

The question was: Did the Soviet state have laws against "anti-Semitism," 
and was the penalty death? I have shown that there are considerable 
reasons for answering both questions in the affirmative.

If someone has access to a compendium of Soviet laws, I would be most 
interested in accessing it and finding the statute itself. Until that is 
done, I think Soviet and Communist statements are the best evidence we 
have. Don't you agree?

With all good wishes,
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Was Earl Warren a Communist? I doubt that he joined the party -- it might 
have hurt his political career. I do know that Communist Party, USA 
official Dorothy Healy was fulsome in praise of him.

As for Communist connections to the "Civil Rights" movement, see Michael 
Hoffman's _Holiday for a Cheater_ (Wiswell Ruffin House, Dresden, NY, 
1992), Kent Steffgen's _Bondage of the Free_ (Vanguard Books, Berkeley, 
CA, 1966), and David Garrow's _The FBI and Martin Luther King_ (W. W. 
Norton & Co., New York, 1981), upon which the following is based:

THE BEAST AS SAINT: The Truth About "Martin Luther King, Jr."

by Kevin Alfred Strom

(a speech given by Mr. Strom on the nationwide radio program,
AMERICAN DISSIDENT VOICES, January 15th, 1994)

WHEN THE COMMUNISTS TOOK OVER a country, one of the first things
that they did was to confiscate all the privately-held weapons,
to deny the people the physical ability to resist tyranny. But
even more insidious than the theft of the people's weapons was
the theft of their history. Official Communist "historians"
rewrote history to fit the current party line. In many countries,
revered national heroes were excised from the history books, or
their real deeds were distorted to fit Communist ideology, and
Communist killers and criminals were converted into official
"saints." Holidays were declared in honor of the beasts who
murdered countless nations.

Did you know that much the same process has occurred right here
in America?

Every January, the media go into a kind of almost spastic frenzy
of adulation for the so-called "Reverend Doctor Martin Luther
King, Jr." King has even had a national holiday declared in his
honor, an honor accorded to no other American, not Washington,
not Jefferson, not Lincoln. (Washington and Lincoln no longer
have holidays -- they share the generic-sounding "President's
Day.") A liberal judge has sealed the FBI files on King until the
year 2027. What are they hiding? Let's take a look at this
modern-day plastic god.

Born in 1929, King was the son of a Black preacher known at the
time only as "Daddy King." "Daddy King" named his son Michael. In
1935, "Daddy King" had an inspiration to name himself after the
Protestant reformer Martin Luther. He declared to his
congregation that henceforth they were to refer to him as "Martin
Luther King" and to his son as "Martin Luther King, Jr." None of
this name changing was ever legalized in court. "Daddy" King's
son's real name is to this day Michael King.

King's Brazen Cheating

We read in Michael Hoffman's "Holiday for a Cheater":

The first public sermon that King ever gave, in 1947 at the
Ebenezer Baptist Church, was plagiarized from a homily by
Protestant clergyman Harry Emerson Fosdick entitled "Life is What
You Make It," according to the testimony of King's best friend of
that time, Reverend Larry H. Williams. The first book that King
wrote, "Stride Toward Freedom, --was plagiarized from numerous
sources, all unattributed, according to documentation recently
assembled by sympathetic King scholars Keith D. Miller, Ira G.
Zepp, Jr., and David J. Garrow.
And no less an authoritative source than the four senior editors
of "The Papers of Martin Luther King, Jr.-- (an official
publication of the Martin Luther King Center for Nonviolent
Social Change, Inc., whose staff includes King's widow Coretta),
stated of King's writings at both Boston University and Crozer
Theological Seminary: "Judged retroactively by the standards of
academic scholarship, [his writings] are tragically flawed by
numerous instances of  plagiarism.... Appropriated passages are
particularly evident in his writings in his major field of
graduate study, systematic theology." King's essay, "The Place of
Reason and Experience in Finding God," written at Crozer, pirated
passages from the work of theologian Edgar S. Brightman, author
of "The Finding of God--. Another of King's theses,
"Contemporary Continental Theology," written shortly after he
entered Boston University, was largely stolen from a book by
Walter Marshall Horton. King's doctoral dissertation, "A
Comparison of the Conceptions of God in the Thinking of Paul
Tillich and Harry Nelson Wieman," for which he was awarded a PhD
in theology, contains more than fifty complete sentences
plagiarized from the PhD dissertation of Dr. Jack Boozer, "The
Place of Reason in Paul Tillich's Concept of God."

According to "The Martin Luther King Papers", in King's
dissertation "only 49 per cent of sentences in the section on
Tillich contain five or more words that were King's own...."!
In "The Journal of American History", June 1991, page 87, David
J. Garrow, a leftist academic who is sympathetic to King, says
that King's wife, Coretta Scott King, who also served as his
secretary, was an accomplice in his repeated cheating. Reading
Garrow's article, one is led to the inescapable conclusion that
King cheated because he had chosen for himself a political role
in which a PhD would be useful, and, lacking the intellectual
ability to obtain the title fairly, went after it by any means
necessary. Why, then, one might ask, did the professors at Crozer
Theological Seminary and Boston University grant him passing
grades and a PhD? Garrow states on page 89: "King's academic
compositions, especially at Boston University, were almost
without exception little more than summary descriptions... and
comparisons of other's writings. Nonetheless, the papers almost
always received desirable letter grades, strongly suggesting that
King's professors did not expect more...."

The editors of "The Martin Luther King Jr. Papers" state that
"...the failure of King's teachers to notice his pattern of
textual appropriation is somewhat remarkable...."

But researcher Michael Hoffman tells us "...actually the
malfeasance of the professors is not at all remarkable. King was
politically correct, he was Black, and he had ambitions. The
leftist [professors were] happy to award a doctorate to such a
candidate no matter how much fraud was involved. Nor is it any
wonder that it has taken forty years for the truth about King's
record of nearly constant intellectual piracy to be made public."

Supposed scholars, who in reality shared King's vision of a
racially mixed and Marxist America, purposely covered up his
cheating for decades. The cover-up still continues. From the "New
York Times" of October 11, 1991, page 15, we learn that on
October 10th of that year, a committee of researchers at Boston
University admitted that, "There is no question but that Dr. King
plagiarized in the dissertation." However, despite its finding,
the committee said that "No thought should be given to the
revocation of Dr. King's doctoral degree," an action the panel
said "would serve no purpose."

No purpose, indeed! Justice demands that, in light of his willful
fraud as a student, the "reverend" and the "doctor" should be
removed from King's name.

Communist Beliefs and Connections

Well friends, he is not a legitimate reverend, he is not a bona
fide PhD, and his name isn't really "Martin Luther King, Jr."
What's left? Just a sexual degenerate, an America-hating
Communist, and a criminal betrayer of even the interests of his
own people.

On Labor Day, 1957, a special meeting was attended by Martin
Luther King and four others at a strange institution called the
Highlander Folk School in Monteagle, Tennessee. The Highlander
Folk School was a Communist front, having been founded by Myles
Horton (Communist Party organizer for Tennessee) and Don West
(Communist Party organizer for North Carolina). The leaders of
this meeting with King were the aforementioned Horton and West,
along with Abner Berry and James Dumbrowski, all open and
acknowledged members of the Communist Party, USA. The agenda of
the meeting was a plan to tour the Southern states to initiate
demonstrations and riots.

>From  1955 to 1960, Martin Luther King's associate, advisor, and
personal secretary was one Bayard Rustin. In 1936 Rustin joined
the Young Communist League at New York City College. Convicted of
draft-dodging, he went to prison for two years in 1944. On
January 23, 1953 the "Los Angeles Times" reported his conviction
and sentencing to jail for 60 days for lewd vagrancy and
homosexual perversion. Rustin attended the 16th Convention of the
Communist Party, USA in February, 1957. One month later, he and
King founded the Southern Christian  Leadership Conference, or
SCLC for short. The president of the SCLC was Dr. Martin Luther
King, Jr. The vice-president of the SCLC was the Reverend Fred
Shuttlesworth, who was also the president of an identified
Communist front known as the Southern Conference Educational
Fund, an organization whose field director, a Mr. Carl Braden,
was simultaneously a national sponsor of the Fair Play for Cuba
Committee, of which you may have heard. The program director of
the SCLC was the Reverend Andrew Young, in more recent years
Jimmy Carter's ambassador to the UN and mayor of Atlanta. Young,
by the way, was trained at the Highlander Folk School, previously
mentioned.

Soon after returning from a trip to Moscow in 1958, Rustin
organized the first of King's famous marches on Washington. The
official organ of the Communist Party, "The Worker,-- openly
declared the march to be a Communist project. Although he left
King's employ as secretary in 1961, Rustin was called upon by
King to be second in command of the much larger march on
Washington which took place on August 28, 1964.

Bayard Rustin's replacement in 1961 as secretary and advisor to
King was Jack O'Dell, also known as Hunter Pitts O'Dell.
According to official records, in 1962 Jack O'Dell was a member
of the National Committee of the Communist Party, USA. He had
been listed as a Communist Party member as early as 1956. O'Dell
was also given the job of acting executive director for SCLC
activities for the entire Southeast, according to the St. Louis
"Globe-Democrat --of October 26, 1962. At that time, there were
still some patriots in the press corps, and word of O'Dell's
party membership became known.

What did King do? Shortly after the negative news reports, King
fired O'Dell with much fanfare. And he then, without the fanfare,
immediately hired him again as director of the New York
office of the SCLC, as confirmed by the "Richmond News-Leader --
of September 27, 1963.

In 1963 a Black man from Monroe, North Carolina named Robert
Williams made a trip to Peking, China. Exactly 20 days before
King's 1964 march on Washington, Williams successfully urged Mao
Tse-Tung to speak out on behalf of King's movement. Mr. Williams
was also around this time maintaining his primary residence in
Cuba, from which he made regular broadcasts to the southern US,
three times a week, from high-power AM transmitters in Havana
under the title "Radio Free Dixie." In these broadcasts, he urged
violent attacks by Blacks against White Americans.

During this period, Williams wrote a book entitled "Negroes With
Guns." The writer of the foreword for this book? None other than
Martin Luther King, Jr.  It is also interesting to note that the
editors and publishers of this book were to a man all supporters
of the infamous Fair Play for Cuba Committee.

 According to King's biographer and sympathizer David J. Garrow,
"King privately described himself as a Marxist." In his 1981
book, "The FBI and Martin Luther King, Jr.", Garrow quotes King
as saying in SCLC staff meetings, "...we have moved into a new
era, which must be an era of revolution.... The whole structure
of American life must be changed.... We are engaged in the class
struggle."

Jewish Communist Stanley Levison can best be described as King's
behind-the-scenes "handler." Levison, who had for years been in
charge of the secret funnelling of Soviet funds to the Communist
Party, USA, was King's mentor and was actually the brains behind
many of King's more successful ploys. It was Levison who edited
King's book, "Stride Toward Freedom." It was Levison who arranged
for a publisher. Levison even prepared King's income tax returns!
It was Levison who really controlled the fund-raising and
agitation activities of the SCLC. Levison wrote many of King's
speeches. King described Levison as one of his "closest friends."

FBI: King Bought Sex With SCLC Money

The Federal Bureau of Investigation had for many years been aware
of Stanley Levison's Communist activities. It was Levison's close
association with King that brought about the initial FBI interest
in King.

Lest you be tempted to believe the controlled media's lie about
"racists" in the FBI being out to "get" King, you should be aware
that the man most responsible for the FBI's probe of King was
Assistant Director William C. Sullivan. Sullivan describes
himself as a liberal, and says that initially "I was one hundred
per cent for King...because I saw him as an effective and badly
needed leader for the Black people in their desire for civil
rights." The probe of King not only confirmed their suspicions
about King's Communist beliefs and associations, but it also
revealed King to be a despicable hypocrite, an immoral
degenerate, and a worthless charlatan.

According to Assistant Director Sullivan, who had direct access
to the surveillance files on King which are denied the American
people, King had embezzled or misapplied substantial amounts of
money contributed to the "civil rights" movement. King used SCLC
funds to pay for liquor, and numerous prostitutes both Black and
White, who were brought to his hotel rooms, often two at a time,
for drunken sex parties which sometimes lasted for several days.
These types of activities were the norm for King's speaking and
organizing tours.

In fact, an outfit called The National Civil Rights Museum in
Memphis, Tennessee, which is putting on display the two bedrooms
>from  the Lorraine Motel where King stayed the night before he was
shot, has declined to depict in any way the occupants of
those rooms. That, according to exhibit designer Gerard
Eisterhold, would be "close to blasphemy." The reason? Dr. Martin
Luther King, Jr. spent his last night on Earth having sex with
two women at the motel and physically beating and abusing a
third.

Sullivan also stated that King had alienated the affections of
numerous married women. According to Sullivan, who in 30 years
with the Bureau had seen everything there was to be seen of the
seamy side of life, King was one of only seven people he had ever
encountered who was such a total degenerate.

Noting the violence that almost invariably attended King's
supposedly "non-violent" marches, Sullivan's probe revealed a
very different King from the carefully crafted public image. King
welcomed members of many different Black groups as members of his
SCLC, many of them advocates and practitioners of violence.
King's only admonition on the subject was that they should
embrace "tactical nonviolence."

Sullivan also relates an incident in which King met in a
financial conference with Communist Party representatives, not
knowing that one of the participants was an infiltrator actually
working for the FBI.

J. Edgar Hoover personally saw to it that documented information
on King's Communist connections was provided to the President and
to Congress. And conclusive information from FBI files was also
provided to major newspapers and news wire services. But were the
American people informed of King's real nature? No, for even in
the 1960s, the fix was in -- the controlled media and the bought
politicians were bound and determined to push their racial mixing
program on America. King was their man and nothing was going to
get in their way. With a few minor exceptions, these facts have
been kept from the American people. The pro-King propaganda
machine grinds on, and it is even reported that a serious
proposal has been made to add some of King's writings as a new
book in the Bible.

Ladies and gentlemen, the purpose of this radio program is far
greater than to prove to you the immorality and subversion of
this man called King. I want you to start to think for
yourselves. I want you to consider this: What are the forces and
motivation behind the controlled media's active promotion of
King? What does it tell you about our politicians when you see
them, almost without exception, falling all over themselves to
honor King as a national hero? What does it tell you about our
society when any public criticism of this moral leper and
Communist functionary is considered grounds for dismissal? What
does it tell you about the controlled media when you see how they
have successfully suppressed the truth and held out a picture of
King that can only be described as a colossal lie? You need to
think, my fellow Americans. You desperately need to wake up.
-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

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Was Earl Warren a Communist? I doubt that he joined the party -- it might 
have hurt his political career. I do know that Communist Party, USA 
official Dorothy Healy was fulsome in praise of him.

As for Communist connections to the "Civil Rights" movement, see Michael 
Hoffman's _Holiday for a Cheater_ (Wiswell Ruffin House, Dresden, NY, 
1992), Kent Steffgen's _Bondage of the Free_ (Vanguard Books, Berkeley, 
CA, 1966), and David Garrow's _The FBI and Martin Luther King_ (W. W. 
Norton & Co., New York, 1981), upon which the following is based:

THE BEAST AS SAINT: The Truth About "Martin Luther King, Jr."

by Kevin Alfred Strom

(a speech given by Mr. Strom on the nationwide radio program,
AMERICAN DISSIDENT VOICES, January 15th, 1994)

WHEN THE COMMUNISTS TOOK OVER a country, one of the first things
that they did was to confiscate all the privately-held weapons,
to deny the people the physical ability to resist tyranny. But
even more insidious than the theft of the people's weapons was
the theft of their history. Official Communist "historians"
rewrote history to fit the current party line. In many countries,
revered national heroes were excised from the history books, or
their real deeds were distorted to fit Communist ideology, and
Communist killers and criminals were converted into official
"saints." Holidays were declared in honor of the beasts who
murdered countless nations.

Did you know that much the same process has occurred right here
in America?

Every January, the media go into a kind of almost spastic frenzy
of adulation for the so-called "Reverend Doctor Martin Luther
King, Jr." King has even had a national holiday declared in his
honor, an honor accorded to no other American, not Washington,
not Jefferson, not Lincoln. (Washington and Lincoln no longer
have holidays -- they share the generic-sounding "President's
Day.") A liberal judge has sealed the FBI files on King until the
year 2027. What are they hiding? Let's take a look at this
modern-day plastic god.

Born in 1929, King was the son of a Black preacher known at the
time only as "Daddy King." "Daddy King" named his son Michael. In
1935, "Daddy King" had an inspiration to name himself after the
Protestant reformer Martin Luther. He declared to his
congregation that henceforth they were to refer to him as "Martin
Luther King" and to his son as "Martin Luther King, Jr." None of
this name changing was ever legalized in court. "Daddy" King's
son's real name is to this day Michael King.

King's Brazen Cheating

We read in Michael Hoffman's "Holiday for a Cheater":

The first public sermon that King ever gave, in 1947 at the
Ebenezer Baptist Church, was plagiarized from a homily by
Protestant clergyman Harry Emerson Fosdick entitled "Life is What
You Make It," according to the testimony of King's best friend of
that time, Reverend Larry H. Williams. The first book that King
wrote, "Stride Toward Freedom, --was plagiarized from numerous
sources, all unattributed, according to documentation recently
assembled by sympathetic King scholars Keith D. Miller, Ira G.
Zepp, Jr., and David J. Garrow.
And no less an authoritative source than the four senior editors
of "The Papers of Martin Luther King, Jr.-- (an official
publication of the Martin Luther King Center for Nonviolent
Social Change, Inc., whose staff includes King's widow Coretta),
stated of King's writings at both Boston University and Crozer
Theological Seminary: "Judged retroactively by the standards of
academic scholarship, [his writings] are tragically flawed by
numerous instances of  plagiarism.... Appropriated passages are
particularly evident in his writings in his major field of
graduate study, systematic theology." King's essay, "The Place of
Reason and Experience in Finding God," written at Crozer, pirated
passages from the work of theologian Edgar S. Brightman, author
of "The Finding of God--. Another of King's theses,
"Contemporary Continental Theology," written shortly after he
entered Boston University, was largely stolen from a book by
Walter Marshall Horton. King's doctoral dissertation, "A
Comparison of the Conceptions of God in the Thinking of Paul
Tillich and Harry Nelson Wieman," for which he was awarded a PhD
in theology, contains more than fifty complete sentences
plagiarized from the PhD dissertation of Dr. Jack Boozer, "The
Place of Reason in Paul Tillich's Concept of God."

According to "The Martin Luther King Papers", in King's
dissertation "only 49 per cent of sentences in the section on
Tillich contain five or more words that were King's own...."!
In "The Journal of American History", June 1991, page 87, David
J. Garrow, a leftist academic who is sympathetic to King, says
that King's wife, Coretta Scott King, who also served as his
secretary, was an accomplice in his repeated cheating. Reading
Garrow's article, one is led to the inescapable conclusion that
King cheated because he had chosen for himself a political role
in which a PhD would be useful, and, lacking the intellectual
ability to obtain the title fairly, went after it by any means
necessary. Why, then, one might ask, did the professors at Crozer
Theological Seminary and Boston University grant him passing
grades and a PhD? Garrow states on page 89: "King's academic
compositions, especially at Boston University, were almost
without exception little more than summary descriptions... and
comparisons of other's writings. Nonetheless, the papers almost
always received desirable letter grades, strongly suggesting that
King's professors did not expect more...."

The editors of "The Martin Luther King Jr. Papers" state that
"...the failure of King's teachers to notice his pattern of
textual appropriation is somewhat remarkable...."

But researcher Michael Hoffman tells us "...actually the
malfeasance of the professors is not at all remarkable. King was
politically correct, he was Black, and he had ambitions. The
leftist [professors were] happy to award a doctorate to such a
candidate no matter how much fraud was involved. Nor is it any
wonder that it has taken forty years for the truth about King's
record of nearly constant intellectual piracy to be made public."

Supposed scholars, who in reality shared King's vision of a
racially mixed and Marxist America, purposely covered up his
cheating for decades. The cover-up still continues. From the "New
York Times" of October 11, 1991, page 15, we learn that on
October 10th of that year, a committee of researchers at Boston
University admitted that, "There is no question but that Dr. King
plagiarized in the dissertation." However, despite its finding,
the committee said that "No thought should be given to the
revocation of Dr. King's doctoral degree," an action the panel
said "would serve no purpose."

No purpose, indeed! Justice demands that, in light of his willful
fraud as a student, the "reverend" and the "doctor" should be
removed from King's name.

Communist Beliefs and Connections

Well friends, he is not a legitimate reverend, he is not a bona
fide PhD, and his name isn't really "Martin Luther King, Jr."
What's left? Just a sexual degenerate, an America-hating
Communist, and a criminal betrayer of even the interests of his
own people.

On Labor Day, 1957, a special meeting was attended by Martin
Luther King and four others at a strange institution called the
Highlander Folk School in Monteagle, Tennessee. The Highlander
Folk School was a Communist front, having been founded by Myles
Horton (Communist Party organizer for Tennessee) and Don West
(Communist Party organizer for North Carolina). The leaders of
this meeting with King were the aforementioned Horton and West,
along with Abner Berry and James Dumbrowski, all open and
acknowledged members of the Communist Party, USA. The agenda of
the meeting was a plan to tour the Southern states to initiate
demonstrations and riots.

>From  1955 to 1960, Martin Luther King's associate, advisor, and
personal secretary was one Bayard Rustin. In 1936 Rustin joined
the Young Communist League at New York City College. Convicted of
draft-dodging, he went to prison for two years in 1944. On
January 23, 1953 the "Los Angeles Times" reported his conviction
and sentencing to jail for 60 days for lewd vagrancy and
homosexual perversion. Rustin attended the 16th Convention of the
Communist Party, USA in February, 1957. One month later, he and
King founded the Southern Christian  Leadership Conference, or
SCLC for short. The president of the SCLC was Dr. Martin Luther
King, Jr. The vice-president of the SCLC was the Reverend Fred
Shuttlesworth, who was also the president of an identified
Communist front known as the Southern Conference Educational
Fund, an organization whose field director, a Mr. Carl Braden,
was simultaneously a national sponsor of the Fair Play for Cuba
Committee, of which you may have heard. The program director of
the SCLC was the Reverend Andrew Young, in more recent years
Jimmy Carter's ambassador to the UN and mayor of Atlanta. Young,
by the way, was trained at the Highlander Folk School, previously
mentioned.

Soon after returning from a trip to Moscow in 1958, Rustin
organized the first of King's famous marches on Washington. The
official organ of the Communist Party, "The Worker,-- openly
declared the march to be a Communist project. Although he left
King's employ as secretary in 1961, Rustin was called upon by
King to be second in command of the much larger march on
Washington which took place on August 28, 1964.

Bayard Rustin's replacement in 1961 as secretary and advisor to
King was Jack O'Dell, also known as Hunter Pitts O'Dell.
According to official records, in 1962 Jack O'Dell was a member
of the National Committee of the Communist Party, USA. He had
been listed as a Communist Party member as early as 1956. O'Dell
was also given the job of acting executive director for SCLC
activities for the entire Southeast, according to the St. Louis
"Globe-Democrat --of October 26, 1962. At that time, there were
still some patriots in the press corps, and word of O'Dell's
party membership became known.

What did King do? Shortly after the negative news reports, King
fired O'Dell with much fanfare. And he then, without the fanfare,
immediately hired him again as director of the New York
office of the SCLC, as confirmed by the "Richmond News-Leader --
of September 27, 1963.

In 1963 a Black man from Monroe, North Carolina named Robert
Williams made a trip to Peking, China. Exactly 20 days before
King's 1964 march on Washington, Williams successfully urged Mao
Tse-Tung to speak out on behalf of King's movement. Mr. Williams
was also around this time maintaining his primary residence in
Cuba, from which he made regular broadcasts to the southern US,
three times a week, from high-power AM transmitters in Havana
under the title "Radio Free Dixie." In these broadcasts, he urged
violent attacks by Blacks against White Americans.

During this period, Williams wrote a book entitled "Negroes With
Guns." The writer of the foreword for this book? None other than
Martin Luther King, Jr.  It is also interesting to note that the
editors and publishers of this book were to a man all supporters
of the infamous Fair Play for Cuba Committee.

 According to King's biographer and sympathizer David J. Garrow,
"King privately described himself as a Marxist." In his 1981
book, "The FBI and Martin Luther King, Jr.", Garrow quotes King
as saying in SCLC staff meetings, "...we have moved into a new
era, which must be an era of revolution.... The whole structure
of American life must be changed.... We are engaged in the class
struggle."

Jewish Communist Stanley Levison can best be described as King's
behind-the-scenes "handler." Levison, who had for years been in
charge of the secret funnelling of Soviet funds to the Communist
Party, USA, was King's mentor and was actually the brains behind
many of King's more successful ploys. It was Levison who edited
King's book, "Stride Toward Freedom." It was Levison who arranged
for a publisher. Levison even prepared King's income tax returns!
It was Levison who really controlled the fund-raising and
agitation activities of the SCLC. Levison wrote many of King's
speeches. King described Levison as one of his "closest friends."

FBI: King Bought Sex With SCLC Money

The Federal Bureau of Investigation had for many years been aware
of Stanley Levison's Communist activities. It was Levison's close
association with King that brought about the initial FBI interest
in King.

Lest you be tempted to believe the controlled media's lie about
"racists" in the FBI being out to "get" King, you should be aware
that the man most responsible for the FBI's probe of King was
Assistant Director William C. Sullivan. Sullivan describes
himself as a liberal, and says that initially "I was one hundred
per cent for King...because I saw him as an effective and badly
needed leader for the Black people in their desire for civil
rights." The probe of King not only confirmed their suspicions
about King's Communist beliefs and associations, but it also
revealed King to be a despicable hypocrite, an immoral
degenerate, and a worthless charlatan.

According to Assistant Director Sullivan, who had direct access
to the surveillance files on King which are denied the American
people, King had embezzled or misapplied substantial amounts of
money contributed to the "civil rights" movement. King used SCLC
funds to pay for liquor, and numerous prostitutes both Black and
White, who were brought to his hotel rooms, often two at a time,
for drunken sex parties which sometimes lasted for several days.
These types of activities were the norm for King's speaking and
organizing tours.

In fact, an outfit called The National Civil Rights Museum in
Memphis, Tennessee, which is putting on display the two bedrooms
>from  the Lorraine Motel where King stayed the night before he was
shot, has declined to depict in any way the occupants of
those rooms. That, according to exhibit designer Gerard
Eisterhold, would be "close to blasphemy." The reason? Dr. Martin
Luther King, Jr. spent his last night on Earth having sex with
two women at the motel and physically beating and abusing a
third.

Sullivan also stated that King had alienated the affections of
numerous married women. According to Sullivan, who in 30 years
with the Bureau had seen everything there was to be seen of the
seamy side of life, King was one of only seven people he had ever
encountered who was such a total degenerate.

Noting the violence that almost invariably attended King's
supposedly "non-violent" marches, Sullivan's probe revealed a
very different King from the carefully crafted public image. King
welcomed members of many different Black groups as members of his
SCLC, many of them advocates and practitioners of violence.
King's only admonition on the subject was that they should
embrace "tactical nonviolence."

Sullivan also relates an incident in which King met in a
financial conference with Communist Party representatives, not
knowing that one of the participants was an infiltrator actually
working for the FBI.

J. Edgar Hoover personally saw to it that documented information
on King's Communist connections was provided to the President and
to Congress. And conclusive information from FBI files was also
provided to major newspapers and news wire services. But were the
American people informed of King's real nature? No, for even in
the 1960s, the fix was in -- the controlled media and the bought
politicians were bound and determined to push their racial mixing
program on America. King was their man and nothing was going to
get in their way. With a few minor exceptions, these facts have
been kept from the American people. The pro-King propaganda
machine grinds on, and it is even reported that a serious
proposal has been made to add some of King's writings as a new
book in the Bible.

Ladies and gentlemen, the purpose of this radio program is far
greater than to prove to you the immorality and subversion of
this man called King. I want you to start to think for
yourselves. I want you to consider this: What are the forces and
motivation behind the controlled media's active promotion of
King? What does it tell you about our politicians when you see
them, almost without exception, falling all over themselves to
honor King as a national hero? What does it tell you about our
society when any public criticism of this moral leper and
Communist functionary is considered grounds for dismissal? What
does it tell you about the controlled media when you see how they
have successfully suppressed the truth and held out a picture of
King that can only be described as a colossal lie? You need to
think, my fellow Americans. You desperately need to wake up.
-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

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Was Earl Warren a Communist? I doubt that he joined the party -- it might 
have hurt his political career. I do know that Communist Party, USA 
official Dorothy Healy was fulsome in praise of him.

As for Communist connections to the "Civil Rights" movement, see Michael 
Hoffman's _Holiday for a Cheater_ (Wiswell Ruffin House, Dresden, NY, 
1992), Kent Steffgen's _Bondage of the Free_ (Vanguard Books, Berkeley, 
CA, 1966), and David Garrow's _The FBI and Martin Luther King_ (W. W. 
Norton & Co., New York, 1981), upon which the following is based:

THE BEAST AS SAINT: The Truth About "Martin Luther King, Jr."

by Kevin Alfred Strom

(a speech given by Mr. Strom on the nationwide radio program,
AMERICAN DISSIDENT VOICES, January 15th, 1994)

WHEN THE COMMUNISTS TOOK OVER a country, one of the first things
that they did was to confiscate all the privately-held weapons,
to deny the people the physical ability to resist tyranny. But
even more insidious than the theft of the people's weapons was
the theft of their history. Official Communist "historians"
rewrote history to fit the current party line. In many countries,
revered national heroes were excised from the history books, or
their real deeds were distorted to fit Communist ideology, and
Communist killers and criminals were converted into official
"saints." Holidays were declared in honor of the beasts who
murdered countless nations.

Did you know that much the same process has occurred right here
in America?

Every January, the media go into a kind of almost spastic frenzy
of adulation for the so-called "Reverend Doctor Martin Luther
King, Jr." King has even had a national holiday declared in his
honor, an honor accorded to no other American, not Washington,
not Jefferson, not Lincoln. (Washington and Lincoln no longer
have holidays -- they share the generic-sounding "President's
Day.") A liberal judge has sealed the FBI files on King until the
year 2027. What are they hiding? Let's take a look at this
modern-day plastic god.

Born in 1929, King was the son of a Black preacher known at the
time only as "Daddy King." "Daddy King" named his son Michael. In
1935, "Daddy King" had an inspiration to name himself after the
Protestant reformer Martin Luther. He declared to his
congregation that henceforth they were to refer to him as "Martin
Luther King" and to his son as "Martin Luther King, Jr." None of
this name changing was ever legalized in court. "Daddy" King's
son's real name is to this day Michael King.

King's Brazen Cheating

We read in Michael Hoffman's "Holiday for a Cheater":

The first public sermon that King ever gave, in 1947 at the
Ebenezer Baptist Church, was plagiarized from a homily by
Protestant clergyman Harry Emerson Fosdick entitled "Life is What
You Make It," according to the testimony of King's best friend of
that time, Reverend Larry H. Williams. The first book that King
wrote, "Stride Toward Freedom, --was plagiarized from numerous
sources, all unattributed, according to documentation recently
assembled by sympathetic King scholars Keith D. Miller, Ira G.
Zepp, Jr., and David J. Garrow.
And no less an authoritative source than the four senior editors
of "The Papers of Martin Luther King, Jr.-- (an official
publication of the Martin Luther King Center for Nonviolent
Social Change, Inc., whose staff includes King's widow Coretta),
stated of King's writings at both Boston University and Crozer
Theological Seminary: "Judged retroactively by the standards of
academic scholarship, [his writings] are tragically flawed by
numerous instances of  plagiarism.... Appropriated passages are
particularly evident in his writings in his major field of
graduate study, systematic theology." King's essay, "The Place of
Reason and Experience in Finding God," written at Crozer, pirated
passages from the work of theologian Edgar S. Brightman, author
of "The Finding of God--. Another of King's theses,
"Contemporary Continental Theology," written shortly after he
entered Boston University, was largely stolen from a book by
Walter Marshall Horton. King's doctoral dissertation, "A
Comparison of the Conceptions of God in the Thinking of Paul
Tillich and Harry Nelson Wieman," for which he was awarded a PhD
in theology, contains more than fifty complete sentences
plagiarized from the PhD dissertation of Dr. Jack Boozer, "The
Place of Reason in Paul Tillich's Concept of God."

According to "The Martin Luther King Papers", in King's
dissertation "only 49 per cent of sentences in the section on
Tillich contain five or more words that were King's own...."!
In "The Journal of American History", June 1991, page 87, David
J. Garrow, a leftist academic who is sympathetic to King, says
that King's wife, Coretta Scott King, who also served as his
secretary, was an accomplice in his repeated cheating. Reading
Garrow's article, one is led to the inescapable conclusion that
King cheated because he had chosen for himself a political role
in which a PhD would be useful, and, lacking the intellectual
ability to obtain the title fairly, went after it by any means
necessary. Why, then, one might ask, did the professors at Crozer
Theological Seminary and Boston University grant him passing
grades and a PhD? Garrow states on page 89: "King's academic
compositions, especially at Boston University, were almost
without exception little more than summary descriptions... and
comparisons of other's writings. Nonetheless, the papers almost
always received desirable letter grades, strongly suggesting that
King's professors did not expect more...."

The editors of "The Martin Luther King Jr. Papers" state that
"...the failure of King's teachers to notice his pattern of
textual appropriation is somewhat remarkable...."

But researcher Michael Hoffman tells us "...actually the
malfeasance of the professors is not at all remarkable. King was
politically correct, he was Black, and he had ambitions. The
leftist [professors were] happy to award a doctorate to such a
candidate no matter how much fraud was involved. Nor is it any
wonder that it has taken forty years for the truth about King's
record of nearly constant intellectual piracy to be made public."

Supposed scholars, who in reality shared King's vision of a
racially mixed and Marxist America, purposely covered up his
cheating for decades. The cover-up still continues. From the "New
York Times" of October 11, 1991, page 15, we learn that on
October 10th of that year, a committee of researchers at Boston
University admitted that, "There is no question but that Dr. King
plagiarized in the dissertation." However, despite its finding,
the committee said that "No thought should be given to the
revocation of Dr. King's doctoral degree," an action the panel
said "would serve no purpose."

No purpose, indeed! Justice demands that, in light of his willful
fraud as a student, the "reverend" and the "doctor" should be
removed from King's name.

Communist Beliefs and Connections

Well friends, he is not a legitimate reverend, he is not a bona
fide PhD, and his name isn't really "Martin Luther King, Jr."
What's left? Just a sexual degenerate, an America-hating
Communist, and a criminal betrayer of even the interests of his
own people.

On Labor Day, 1957, a special meeting was attended by Martin
Luther King and four others at a strange institution called the
Highlander Folk School in Monteagle, Tennessee. The Highlander
Folk School was a Communist front, having been founded by Myles
Horton (Communist Party organizer for Tennessee) and Don West
(Communist Party organizer for North Carolina). The leaders of
this meeting with King were the aforementioned Horton and West,
along with Abner Berry and James Dumbrowski, all open and
acknowledged members of the Communist Party, USA. The agenda of
the meeting was a plan to tour the Southern states to initiate
demonstrations and riots.

>From  1955 to 1960, Martin Luther King's associate, advisor, and
personal secretary was one Bayard Rustin. In 1936 Rustin joined
the Young Communist League at New York City College. Convicted of
draft-dodging, he went to prison for two years in 1944. On
January 23, 1953 the "Los Angeles Times" reported his conviction
and sentencing to jail for 60 days for lewd vagrancy and
homosexual perversion. Rustin attended the 16th Convention of the
Communist Party, USA in February, 1957. One month later, he and
King founded the Southern Christian  Leadership Conference, or
SCLC for short. The president of the SCLC was Dr. Martin Luther
King, Jr. The vice-president of the SCLC was the Reverend Fred
Shuttlesworth, who was also the president of an identified
Communist front known as the Southern Conference Educational
Fund, an organization whose field director, a Mr. Carl Braden,
was simultaneously a national sponsor of the Fair Play for Cuba
Committee, of which you may have heard. The program director of
the SCLC was the Reverend Andrew Young, in more recent years
Jimmy Carter's ambassador to the UN and mayor of Atlanta. Young,
by the way, was trained at the Highlander Folk School, previously
mentioned.

Soon after returning from a trip to Moscow in 1958, Rustin
organized the first of King's famous marches on Washington. The
official organ of the Communist Party, "The Worker,-- openly
declared the march to be a Communist project. Although he left
King's employ as secretary in 1961, Rustin was called upon by
King to be second in command of the much larger march on
Washington which took place on August 28, 1964.

Bayard Rustin's replacement in 1961 as secretary and advisor to
King was Jack O'Dell, also known as Hunter Pitts O'Dell.
According to official records, in 1962 Jack O'Dell was a member
of the National Committee of the Communist Party, USA. He had
been listed as a Communist Party member as early as 1956. O'Dell
was also given the job of acting executive director for SCLC
activities for the entire Southeast, according to the St. Louis
"Globe-Democrat --of October 26, 1962. At that time, there were
still some patriots in the press corps, and word of O'Dell's
party membership became known.

What did King do? Shortly after the negative news reports, King
fired O'Dell with much fanfare. And he then, without the fanfare,
immediately hired him again as director of the New York
office of the SCLC, as confirmed by the "Richmond News-Leader --
of September 27, 1963.

In 1963 a Black man from Monroe, North Carolina named Robert
Williams made a trip to Peking, China. Exactly 20 days before
King's 1964 march on Washington, Williams successfully urged Mao
Tse-Tung to speak out on behalf of King's movement. Mr. Williams
was also around this time maintaining his primary residence in
Cuba, from which he made regular broadcasts to the southern US,
three times a week, from high-power AM transmitters in Havana
under the title "Radio Free Dixie." In these broadcasts, he urged
violent attacks by Blacks against White Americans.

During this period, Williams wrote a book entitled "Negroes With
Guns." The writer of the foreword for this book? None other than
Martin Luther King, Jr.  It is also interesting to note that the
editors and publishers of this book were to a man all supporters
of the infamous Fair Play for Cuba Committee.

 According to King's biographer and sympathizer David J. Garrow,
"King privately described himself as a Marxist." In his 1981
book, "The FBI and Martin Luther King, Jr.", Garrow quotes King
as saying in SCLC staff meetings, "...we have moved into a new
era, which must be an era of revolution.... The whole structure
of American life must be changed.... We are engaged in the class
struggle."

Jewish Communist Stanley Levison can best be described as King's
behind-the-scenes "handler." Levison, who had for years been in
charge of the secret funnelling of Soviet funds to the Communist
Party, USA, was King's mentor and was actually the brains behind
many of King's more successful ploys. It was Levison who edited
King's book, "Stride Toward Freedom." It was Levison who arranged
for a publisher. Levison even prepared King's income tax returns!
It was Levison who really controlled the fund-raising and
agitation activities of the SCLC. Levison wrote many of King's
speeches. King described Levison as one of his "closest friends."

FBI: King Bought Sex With SCLC Money

The Federal Bureau of Investigation had for many years been aware
of Stanley Levison's Communist activities. It was Levison's close
association with King that brought about the initial FBI interest
in King.

Lest you be tempted to believe the controlled media's lie about
"racists" in the FBI being out to "get" King, you should be aware
that the man most responsible for the FBI's probe of King was
Assistant Director William C. Sullivan. Sullivan describes
himself as a liberal, and says that initially "I was one hundred
per cent for King...because I saw him as an effective and badly
needed leader for the Black people in their desire for civil
rights." The probe of King not only confirmed their suspicions
about King's Communist beliefs and associations, but it also
revealed King to be a despicable hypocrite, an immoral
degenerate, and a worthless charlatan.

According to Assistant Director Sullivan, who had direct access
to the surveillance files on King which are denied the American
people, King had embezzled or misapplied substantial amounts of
money contributed to the "civil rights" movement. King used SCLC
funds to pay for liquor, and numerous prostitutes both Black and
White, who were brought to his hotel rooms, often two at a time,
for drunken sex parties which sometimes lasted for several days.
These types of activities were the norm for King's speaking and
organizing tours.

In fact, an outfit called The National Civil Rights Museum in
Memphis, Tennessee, which is putting on display the two bedrooms
>from  the Lorraine Motel where King stayed the night before he was
shot, has declined to depict in any way the occupants of
those rooms. That, according to exhibit designer Gerard
Eisterhold, would be "close to blasphemy." The reason? Dr. Martin
Luther King, Jr. spent his last night on Earth having sex with
two women at the motel and physically beating and abusing a
third.

Sullivan also stated that King had alienated the affections of
numerous married women. According to Sullivan, who in 30 years
with the Bureau had seen everything there was to be seen of the
seamy side of life, King was one of only seven people he had ever
encountered who was such a total degenerate.

Noting the violence that almost invariably attended King's
supposedly "non-violent" marches, Sullivan's probe revealed a
very different King from the carefully crafted public image. King
welcomed members of many different Black groups as members of his
SCLC, many of them advocates and practitioners of violence.
King's only admonition on the subject was that they should
embrace "tactical nonviolence."

Sullivan also relates an incident in which King met in a
financial conference with Communist Party representatives, not
knowing that one of the participants was an infiltrator actually
working for the FBI.

J. Edgar Hoover personally saw to it that documented information
on King's Communist connections was provided to the President and
to Congress. And conclusive information from FBI files was also
provided to major newspapers and news wire services. But were the
American people informed of King's real nature? No, for even in
the 1960s, the fix was in -- the controlled media and the bought
politicians were bound and determined to push their racial mixing
program on America. King was their man and nothing was going to
get in their way. With a few minor exceptions, these facts have
been kept from the American people. The pro-King propaganda
machine grinds on, and it is even reported that a serious
proposal has been made to add some of King's writings as a new
book in the Bible.

Ladies and gentlemen, the purpose of this radio program is far
greater than to prove to you the immorality and subversion of
this man called King. I want you to start to think for
yourselves. I want you to consider this: What are the forces and
motivation behind the controlled media's active promotion of
King? What does it tell you about our politicians when you see
them, almost without exception, falling all over themselves to
honor King as a national hero? What does it tell you about our
society when any public criticism of this moral leper and
Communist functionary is considered grounds for dismissal? What
does it tell you about the controlled media when you see how they
have successfully suppressed the truth and held out a picture of
King that can only be described as a colossal lie? You need to
think, my fellow Americans. You desperately need to wake up.
-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

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From ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Sat Jun  1 06:39:29 PDT 1996
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From: Kevin Alfred Strom 
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Subject: Re: WHO'S WHITE?
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Eugene Holman wrote:
> 
> In article <31AC3300.1258@ix.netcom.com>, Kevin Alfred Strom
>  wrote:
> 
> > White is a convenient term for "of exclusively European ancestry." A few
> > geographic Europeans may show traces of non-European genes, of course,
> > but the term "White" generally includes all the European subraces,
> > Nordic, Alpine, and Mediterranean, and would exclude those whose
> > countenance indicates significant admixture of other races.
> 
> Problems.
> 
> Archeological and other evidence seems to indicate the existence of an
> ancient, dark haired, swarthy skinned population in Europe before the
> spread of the Indo-Europeans. These include:
> * The Basques, the best preserved pre-Indo-European language and population
> * The unusually dark-haired and swarthy complexioned people of eastern
> Wales (popular singer Tom Jones is a good example of the type)
> * The pre-Indo-European elements of Greek language and culture (such as
> the word *thalassa* 'sea'). This has left relicts extending into the
> Danube valley, throughout the Balkans and mainland Greece, and shows
> strong evidence of admixture from the Middle East and Northern Africa.
> (Cf. Harold HAARMANN 1996, *Early Ciuvilization and Literacy in Europe -
> An Inquiry Into Cultural Continuity in the Mediterranean World*. Mouton de
> Gruyter. Berlin and New York.)


Anyone who has been to Wales, as I have (it's one of my favorite places), 
would agree with me: the Welsh are White. Even the "darkest" of them. 
Everything I have seen, including depictions by the Greeks of Helots, 
convinces me that the pre-Indo-European peoples of Europe were 
Mediterranean Whites.

Next thing you know, you'll be saying that Kevin Strom isn't White -- 
why, look! he's got brown eyes!


> * The Sami (Lapps) and other Arctic peoples inhabiting the northernmost
> regions of Europe are the last remains of pre-Indo-European populations
> that once inhabited much of northern Eurasia and, in historical times, the
> area surrounding the Baltic Sea. Most of them were eventually assimilated
> into the advancing Indo-European-speaking peoples, but study of their
> genes reveals clearly that they trace their origins to northern Asia.
> 


The Lapps consider themselves to be a people apart, though they are 
largely European racially. Since they consider themselves thus, I doubt 
that they would lay claim to being "Europeans" in the general sense, so 
they need not be considered in our definition. I was well aware of this 
but thought it peripheral to the issue at hand.



> Your definition of *White* is "of exclusively European ancestry" but,
> since everyone in Europe came from somewhere else, something which can be
> demonstrated on the basis of both direct historical and indirect
> archeological and genetic evidence, the definition is obviously flawed.
> 


Gosh, I suppose so. But then, according to a very popular theory of human 
origins, the definitions of all peoples except Africans would be equally 
flawed. They all came from somewhere else! So there are no Asians either.

Where did the first amphibian emerge from the sea? Except for that one 
spot -- everyone came from somewhere else. Hell, even the amphibian came 
>from  somewhere else!

The closely related family of peoples who replaced the Neanderthals in 
Europe -- that is the White race. Yes, there can be debate about the 
exact racial boundaries -- as there is debate about racial and species 
boundaries regarding animals and plants among scientists. But in the 
final analysis, it is the _members_ of a racial/ethnic group who care 
about its destiny, who will make the de facto definition for us. (It 
certainly works for the Jews, no offense intended.) My definition 
corresponds with the generally accepted one among members of the European 
race.


> The other part of your definition, specifically "would exclude those whose
> countenance indicates significant admixture of other races" is in
> contradiction with the fact that three of the demonstrably oldest nations
> in Europe, the Welsh, the Basque, and the Lapps, living in peripheral or
> difficultly accessible parts of the continent, who are descended from some
> of the earliest inhabitants of Europe, and can thus be regarded by right
> of primordiality as "being of exclusively European ancestry", even if
> their "countenance" does not accord with the European racial stereotype.
> 


We have already dealt with the Lapps. The Basques and the Welsh are fully 
White, in my view. They certainly would be considered so if judged by 
appearance by us or by members of other races.




> > It would
> > exclude virtually all Middle Eastern or North African peoples, all
> > Capoids, Congoids and Australoids, and all Asians except Aryan remnants
> > such as some of the Kafiri, etc.
> 
> What about the Egyptians and the Greeks? Both were definitely  'Middle
> Eastern and North African peoples'. The language of the ancient Egyptians
> was not Indo-European, but rather Hamito-Semitic and most closely related
> to Cushitic, the ancestor of the languages of Somalia, Ethiopia, and NE
> Kenya. The Greece of today is all that remains of a culture and people
> that had their epicenter much further to the southeast, and which began
> their expansion from Asia Minor and northern Africa to the Aegean Sea and
> what is now continental Greece during the second millennium of the
> pre-Christian era. Your definition implies that the Greeks are not
> European, and thus not White.
> 

As I said, I am talking about the race that inhabits Europe today. I 
freely acknowledge that that race -- even the pre-Indo-Europeans -- may 
have had its origin outside of the continent.

I think you assumed that I was making a geographical definition when I 
was not. I was referring to a biological entity, not a geographic one.

With very insignificant exceptions, the peoples of Europe today share a 
genetic heritage and also a consciousness of that heritage which makes 
them regard each other as belonging to the same race. Except for Talmudic 
quibblers, the "there is no such thing as race" crowd, and the confused 
young people who have accepted the Orwellian doctrines now taught in the 
public boob-hatcheries, we instantly know what is meant by "White" and 
can answer the question "is he White?" after a glance. Yes, errors may be 
made sometimes -- but not often.

Of course, maybe the quibblers are right -- maybe there really is no such 
thing as race -- maybe "peoples" and "nations" are all illusions, too -- 
maybe there is no _real_ difference between Hottentots and Nipponese 
noblemen -- maybe, because we disagree on the boundary, the Gulf of 
Mexico and the Atlantic Ocean really do not exist at all... but I 
seriously doubt it.

With all good wishes,
-- 


Kevin Alfred Strom

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