The Nizkor Project: Remembering the Holocaust (Shoah)

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From: "Tbone" 
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Subject: Jewish math: 6 million minus 2.5 million= 6million, of course!
Date: 9 Dec 1996 23:51:42 GMT
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I was taught in school that 6 million jews were murdered by the Nazi's in
the "holocaust". That has been the party line since WWII. We've heard it
constantly, and it's illegal to question it in Canada, Germany, Israel,
France, and a few other countries. (Just ask Irving, Zundel, Leuchter,
etc.)

But, in 1990 or so, the Auschwitz museum in Poland removed the plaque that
said 4 million jews had been killed there. (You know, the plaque the Pope
prayed over, commemorating the 4 million jews, etc...) The Auschwitz State
Museum (whatever its official name is) has OFFICIALLY LOWERED the Auschwitz
death toll to "around 1.5 million", a reduction of approx. 2.5 million.
Some Soviet papers documented only 72,000 jewish deaths there...

So, what is the official jewish count? Still 6 million, of course!!! How
can the former total of 6 million lose 2.5 million, and still be 6 million?
Maybe that's a special kind of math only taught to jews, I don't know. To
white people, that equals a max of 3.5 million, which the jews can't allow
because it would screw up their entire holy-hoax scam.

Remember, the Katyn Massacre? 13,000+ Polish officers murdered. We were
told for 45 years that the Germans did it. Then the Soviets said, "Nope, we
did it." With that it mind, isn't it reasonable to assume that perhaps the
jew count is suspect, at best, and deliberately fraudulent at worst?

Hail the Order!


From tstedham@dbtech.net Thu Dec 12 05:33:29 PST 1996
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From: "Thomas Stedham" 
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Subject: Re: Jewish math: 6 million minus 2.5 million= 6million, of course!
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Semitic semantics! Now they are saying that nobody claimed 4 million JEWS
were killed at Auschwitz, so that doesn't lower the jew body count...

My question is this: if, before 1990, 6 million jews had been killed in the
holocaust, how many were counted as coming from Auschwitz? It seems to me
that if you drop that overall Auschwitz total from 4 million to 1.5
million, it is reasonable to assume that you would lose a few jews, too.
But not according to "Brian McVay" from Nizkor and other deluded persons
who wrote me. No, according to all of them, miraculously, the total jewish
body count remains at, surprise, 6 MILLION!! So, I guess they had the right
count all along, and just didn't want to share it with anyone. Why, if you
try to correct historical inaccuracies, people might start calling you a
"revisionist"; we can't have that...

Even Deborah Lipstadt said the accurate total at Auschwitz was "1.5 to 2
million, of whom 85-90% were jews." Assuming we use white people math (not
jewish math), that means that between 1.35 and 1.8 million jews were killed
at Auschwitz. (A preposterous figure, but at least one that would agree
with Lipstadt's count.)

So, how many jews did the jews say were killed at Auschwitz, BEFORE
relentless pressure from revisionists forced them to lower their count?
That's the key. Because if they used a figure that doesn't jibe with the
above tally, then it is just plain wrong, according to one of their own
leading "experts." Where does this holy 6 million figure come from?

And, last but certainly not least, without pressure from people like
Zundel, etc., would they EVER have revised ANY count? No, we would still be
hearing the "human soap" story, the "human lampshade" story, and so on...
Thank you revisionists.

By the way, Nizkor, that "twelve million victims" line on your home page,
how many dead are you counting from Auschwitz? The incorrect 4 million? Or
the still incorrect 1.5 million? 

Jewish math, semitic semantics, it's all cover for the same thing: protect
the holocaust story at all costs, no matter how absurd...




From tstedham@dbtech.net Tue Dec 17 15:46:37 PST 1996
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From: "Thomas Stedham" 
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Subject: Re: Jewish Media Control:  Close-Up
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Dude, you misunderstood. The writer, Jack Kelley, did not post the article
or the follow-up. The NATIONAL ALLIANCE, admittedly a pro-Nazi, anti-jew
organization, obtained copies and posted them. It was the NATIONAL ALLIANCE
who directed readers to contact the National Alliance, not the writer.
Freespeech is a National Alliance publication, which simply reprinted the
article and the writer's commentary on it, which he did _not_ submit to the
National Alliance.

I have originals of both, and the writer NEVER contacted the National
Alliance. Anyone can post articles, letters, etc. If I post a mildly
anti-Israeli article from say, Time, (not that we would ever see one...)
but if I did post something like that and then I directed readers to
contact the KKK, obviously it doesn't mean that _Time_ magazine is
directing readers to the KKK.

Think about the internet, and how easy it is to publish information before
you go off next time....

And, I'm not sure what your definition of an antisemite is, but to me,
anyone who merely points out statistical facts, such as the enormously
disproportionate amount of Clinton jewish appointees, is not a
"thoroughgoing (is that a word?) antisemite", merely a concerned and
observant LOYAL American citizen.  Since our nation gives $billions in aid
(our tax money!) to Israel, it is of interest to American tax-payers to
know people's backgrounds, and where there loyalties lie.

If this is antisemitism, then perhaps Israel should become self-sufficient,
and leave our tax dollars  here in America.

Mark S. Bilk  wrote in article
...
F R E E S P E E C H
Vol. II, No. 7 
Media Control Close-up 
by Jack Killey 
> >For further information write to National Vanguard Books, 
> [snip]
> Which is a division of the "National Alliance", a NAZI 
> organization!
> In other words, Jack Killey, the writer of the original news-
> paper article, and of the piece reprinted in the preceding
> Usenet article, directs readers to a Nazi group for further 
> information.  Evidently his views and theirs coincide.  In
> fact, both of these articles are published in the "National 
> Alliance" Web site.
> 
> So Killey *is* a thoroughgoing antisemite, and the boycott 
> against the newspaper that published and stood by his work 
> was totally justified.



From tstedham@dbtech.net Sun Dec 22 14:55:20 PST 1996
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From: "Thomas Stedham" 
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Subject: Crematoria used for MURDER?????
Date: 22 Dec 1996 19:06:00 GMT
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I ran across this laughable bit of nonsense of the website of the
University of San Francisco. They have a huge holocaust site entitled
"Gravediggers of Memory." This particular quote is from their section on
holocaust denial:

                http://www.soe.usfca.edu/CIT/denial/denial.html

Their site says:

<< While one may argue about the exact number of Jews gassed to death
between 1942 and 1945, << the fact that the crematoria built at Auschwitz
in 1942-43 were designed to kill Jews is simply 
<< beyond dispute.

Uhhhh, what, or something??? The crematoria were designed to kill Jews?
That's a new one. I've read the "steam death" stories, the "electrocution"
stories, the "iron-plate/ramrod-in-the-back-of-the head" story, and many,
many others, but I have NEVER encountered anyone who has stated that
crematoria were used, much less _designed_ to kill Jews. I don't think that
even Nizkor would buy this story...

They also state the reason behind WWII: 
<<  The Holocaust evoked sympathy in many people and the reaction was World
War II.
      (http://www.soe.usfca.edu/CIT/denialessays/gateel00.html)

Sorry, I'm rolling on the floor, laughing at the top of my lungs. No-one
has had the cojones to try and get away with that whopper. What are these
people on???  It's obvious they've never read Lipstadt's book  _Beyond
Belief_ which basically says that the world ignored the Holocaust and
couldn't have cared less about it... Hello! Do some research, people.

There are no authors listed, so I don't know exactly whom to laugh at. I
emailed them a rather long critique of this foolishness. It's Christmas
break now, but in January I should hear from them. They will probably
accuse me of antisemitism, and of being a neo-Nazi... I urge everyone, both
traditionalist and revisionist to go to this site, and offer a critique of
it. Both sides will find a lot to criticize.

The student essay section also contains errors. One girl wrote: 

<<  In 1943, the Germans launched an attack on Czechoslovakia, beginning
another world war. 

Well, I hope she got the grade she deserves: an F! But since her name is
_Monica Skikos_, I am pretty sure that did not happen...

Everyone with integrity, on both sides of the issue, needs to tell these
San Francisco idiots to take a reality break...


-- "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right
to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect
themselves against Tyranny in government."
                    ---Thomas Jefferson---

Thomas Stedham is tstedham@dbtech.net


From tstedham@dbtech.net Wed Dec 25 15:43:36 PST 1996
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From: "Thomas Stedham" 
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So, let me get this straight:

due to _GENETICS_, blacks can't say things like mother ("mutha"), they
can't conjugate verbs properly: he is ("he be"), and so forth. What a crock
of bullshit. This is simply another cop-out, and a blatant attempt to
excuse black incompetence.

Why is it that when actual _Africans_ learn English, they don't seem to
suffer from this terrible genetic handicap? And Thomas Sowell doesn't seem
to be afflicted, nor Ken Hamblin. Even Martin Luther King seemed to be able
to pronounce English words properly...

As for the belief that we need to do whatever it takes to keep blacks in
school so they can graduate, I ask you: what is the purpose of a diploma?
Isn't it to prove that you met a standard? Are we not lowering our
standards? I could have a 97% graduation rate from Navy SEAL school,
arguably the toughest thing on the planet, if I could only lower its
grueling standards. (Right now it graduates about 25-40 %.) I can barely
swim 50 meters myself, but I could be a SEAL if they would only change the
standard to keep me in.

This is a travesty of what America is supposed to be about. Ebonics will
only serve to further segregate America. The sad thing is that tax dollars
are going to be used to do it...




-- 
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right
to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect
themselves against Tyranny in government."
                    ---Thomas Jefferson---

Thomas Stedham is tstedham@dbtech.net



From tstedham@dbtech.net Fri Dec 27 12:09:16 PST 1996
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From: "Thomas Stedham" 
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Subject: Re: The Jews in Clinton's Cabinet
Date: 22 Dec 1996 20:39:53 GMT
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The Presbyterians and Episcopalians do not lobby for American tax dollars
to be sent to support a foreign theocracy; the Jews do. The most powerful
lobby in America is not Presbyterian or Episcopalian, it is Jewish: AIPAC.

It is not the religion of the Clinton appointees at issue here, it is their
ethnicity, and through it, their loyalty. Do they owe allegiance to America
or Israel? That is the quandry we face in this country.

Corey Olomon  wrote in article
<32bc6922.24511448@news.idt.net>...
> On Thu, 19 Dec 1996 22:03:27 -0600, civil@anet-stl.com (Parker
> Beatley) wrote:
> 
> >I have read that 30% of Clinton's appointments are Jews although they
> >represent only 3% of the population. This would give them a 10-to-1
> >presence via comparison to their numbers, a fairly convincing
preference.
> >Everyone knows that Clinton's government represents minorities as
opposed
> >to the majority. In South Africa when that occurred, international
forces
> >boycotted that country until it became a majority ruled country.
America,
> >however, remains a minority-ruled country. 
> >
> This is just anti-Semitism pure and simple.  These numbers are
> meaningless.  You can use these statistics all sort of ways.  For
> Example about 15% of the Cabinet members and high executive officers
> are Presbyterians and over 20% are Episcopalians although only 1-2% of
> the nation are of those denominations.  Is there a Episcopalian or
> Presbyterian conspiracy?
> 
> corey  
> 


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> 
> >The only thing left is the killings.  When will our government get
> >around to them, and when do we start fighting back?
> 
> If the government ever starts killing citizens without *ample*
> justification, you'll see me out there fighting.
> -- 
> Lynn Wallace       || I love the sound of pretensions dying.
> lawall@xmission.com|| Save your hyperbole until you really need it.
> 		  "Government" is not a dirty word.
> 

So, where were you during Ruby Ridge? Because I damn sure didn't see you in
Idaho, "out there fighting" when Sammy Weaver was murdered, when Vicky
Weaver was murdered, when Kevin Harris was shot? 

So, where were you during Waco? Because I damn sure didn't see you in
Texas, "out there fighting" when 81 people were murdered because the ATF
was grandstanding for their budget...



From tstedham@dbtech.net Fri Dec 27 13:00:21 PST 1996
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From: "Thomas Stedham" 
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Subject: Re: Rational gun control laws
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There is NO SUCH THING as "rational gun control laws". There is freedom,
and there is tyranny.

A man with a gun is a citizen; a man without a gun is a subject. Which
would you rather be?

THOMAS STEDHAM


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From: "Thomas Stedham" 
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Well, I could tell you, but then some people would start rolling their eyes
and calling me crazy...

You see, when I mention militias and black helicopters and the UN and the
New World Order, well, people just don't want to listen.

The military provided security at the Olympics in Atlanta; Delta and SEAL 6
were there. The National Guard is doing federal counternarcotics works in
many states, including Georgia. The military was illegally present and took
part in the murders at Waco. The military assisted in the murder of the
Weavers at Ruby Ridge. The ATF will be using those very capable planes in
the upcoming war against gun-owners---

Sorry, I see someone rolling their eyes. I'm gonna stop now. But, before I
go, let me just ask this:

WHY _DOES_ THE ATF NEED THOSE DAMN PLANES????? (ex-military attack
aircraft, still fitted with military avionics and weapons hard-points and
delivery systems.....)


-- 
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right
to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect
themselves against Tyranny in government."
                    ---Thomas Jefferson---

Thomas Stedham is tstedham@dbtech.net

jim yanik  wrote in article <59u6lv$enj$2@news.iag.net>...
> 
> Can anybody explain to me what the Bureau of Alcohol,Tobacco,and Firearms

> (A TAX-enforcement agency)needs OV-10 aircraft for? 
> 
> Jim Yanik
> 
> 
> In article <32C19B06.62E@ao.net>, msharkey@ao.net says...
> >
> >Had the pleasure to see at Patrick AFB, a C-17 shooting touch-and-goes
> >(5Xs) and the ATF new OV-10 fleet.  They took over some old Marine/USAF
> >machine, painted them black and added wing tanks to the hard points.
> >Their was one shooting landings and five+ sitting on the tarmac.
> >-- 
> >Matthew R. Sharkey
> >LtCol., CAP
> >FLWING, Director, Cadet Programs
> >Mitchell # 3258  ICEA #41, GRWilson #1327
> >
> >"If I were to read, much less answer, all of the attacks made upon me,
> >this shop might as well be closed for business.  I do the very best I
> >know how - the very best I can: and I mean on keeping doing so until the
> >end.  If the end brings me out all right, what is said against me won't
> >amount to anything.  If the end brings me out wrong, ten angels swearing
> >that I was right would make no difference."       Abe Lincoln
> 
> 


From tstedham@dbtech.net Fri Dec 27 13:00:24 PST 1996
Article: 357702 of talk.politics.guns
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From: "Thomas Stedham" 
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Israelis don't complain about having their cars and bodies searched for weapons. What's your problem with it?
Date: 27 Dec 1996 06:35:55 GMT
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Well, first off, I'm not a Jew living in the Holy Land. I'm an AMERICAN. I
don't give a shit about what goes on over there, and I don't give a flying
leap what they do or do not complain about. 

It's legal in Israel to torture suspects; do you want that shit here? It
would certainly increase the confession rate...

I support the Constitution of the United States. No-one, and I mean
_no-one_ will be doing any warrantless illegal searches of my car or my
body. If you want it otherwise, move to Israel.
-- 
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right
to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect
themselves against Tyranny in government."
                    ---Thomas Jefferson---

Thomas Stedham is tstedham@dbtech.net

Michael Korman  wrote in article
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> Reply from Mike Korman:
> 
>      For all of you worried about your rights against search and seizure.
> We're not talking about that. We're talking about a freesociety  having
ITS
> OWN police to be fairly supervised by THE PEOPLE (which means civilian
> review, the press, etc)  for the purpose of removing the greatest threat
to
> society- THE ARMED CRIMINAL. The only thing I think, that will get a lot
of
> people off the illegal search and seizure "kick" is simply to have them
> facing down the barrel of a mugger's handgun or if a nuclear weapon goes
> off in the U.S. Then maybe they will decide that a quick look under their
> car seat or the trunk may not be such a bad idea.
>                                                                          
 
>                               Mike Korman
> 
> 


From tstedham@dbtech.net Fri Dec 27 13:00:25 PST 1996
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From: "Thomas Stedham" 
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Black Masked SWAT Team Members
Date: 27 Dec 1996 06:49:48 GMT
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Damn good point.
-- 
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right
to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect
themselves against Tyranny in government."
                    ---Thomas Jefferson---

Thomas Stedham is tstedham@dbtech.net


> The problem here is that the two sides are talking past each other.
> 
> Mark thinks that because the State decides that its subjects may not
> get high on certian chemicals, that having paramilitary units assault
> the homes and environs of suspected violators is a justified and
> sensable thing to do.
> 
> Others feel that whether drugs are BAD THINGS (tm) or not, does not
> justify the application of what amounts to martial law against suspects.
> 
> Our government has scapegoated various classes for political reasons
(Mormons,
> Japanese, Blacks, Indians, Hippies, Drug Users, Drug Dealers, Drug
Kingpins,
> Commies, Militias, etc).  Local politicians in the south used to speak
> of "out niggering" your opponents.  Which meant demagoging about how you
>  would keep the dangerous niggers down.  
> 
> The War on Some Drugs is a variation on that theme.
> 
> This is a perfect example of why governments must be kept small and 
> restricted in their powers.
> 
> Doug
> 


From tstedham@dbtech.net Fri Dec 27 13:00:26 PST 1996
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From: "Thomas Stedham" 
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: A message from IPSC Guest Book
Date: 27 Dec 1996 06:57:37 GMT
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Hear, hear!!!!! I don't see any Israeli's wanting to give up THEIR guns.
Every time I look at them on CNN they're walking around with UZI's... Why
is that? Why are civilians carrying automatic weapons around on crowded
city streets?

Could it be that anybody that messes with them is going to get KILLED?
That's the way it should be... 
-- 
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right
to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect
themselves against Tyranny in government."
                    ---Thomas Jefferson---

Thomas Stedham is tstedham@dbtech.net

Dave  wrote in article
<01bbf2ca$beb6fec0$429e99ce@default>...
> Ms. Ezra Berstein (or Mr. Berstein whatever)... You and your Jewish
> faithful have spent the last 50 years whining and bitching about how the
> rest of US didn't come and fight YOUR war against the nazis in time
enough
> to save you.  While you marched into the gas chambers as cowards, WE died
> on the battlefield.  I would recommend not being so enthusiastic about
> giving up your right to own firearms.  You never know when the next time
is
> that you might need one.
> 
> 


From tstedham@dbtech.net Fri Dec 27 13:00:27 PST 1996
Article: 357840 of talk.politics.guns
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From: "Thomas Stedham" 
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Gun-free zones: question for advocates of gun removal
Date: 27 Dec 1996 06:46:11 GMT
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Why don't we simply do what the NRA has begged Congress to do for at least
15 years: if you use a gun in the commission of a crime, you go to prison
WITHOUT PAROLE for a minimum 10 year stretch. Doesn't that make sense to
both sides? Lock up those who commit gun crimes.

But, no, the leftists in the ACLU say that would be racist....

FIGHT CRIMINALS, NOT GUNS!!!!
-- 
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right
to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect
themselves against Tyranny in government."
                    ---Thomas Jefferson---

Thomas Stedham is tstedham@dbtech.net

Oleg Volk  wrote in article
<59snj1$blt@darla.visi.com>...
> Why is it that schools got declared gun-free zones(1000 yards?) and
> not nursing homes? Doesn't this imply that the elderly are less
> important to us?
> 
> What about hospitals...gas stations (which are OFTEN targets of armed
> robbery)...graduate schools?
> 
> What does such an arbitrary and UNENFORCEABLE restriction accomplish?
> (unenforceable because some people LIVE within the "off-limit" zone
> and already own guns)
> 
> 
> Oleg Volk
> 
> New PHOTOS & CARTOONS on Christmas - "Familiar Strangers"
> http://www.ddb.com/volkstudio
> 
> New ICON ARCHIVE -- check the private page.
> 
> 


From tstedham@dbtech.net Fri Dec 27 13:00:27 PST 1996
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From: "Thomas Stedham" 
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Subject: Re: Israelis don't complain about having their cars and bodies searched for weapons. What's your problem with it?
Date: 27 Dec 1996 06:48:09 GMT
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Well, actually it wouldn't solve anything. Firearms are already prohibited
for convicted felons to possess, but that doesn't stop a determined
criminal from getting one.

Simply lock away for 10 years without parole anyone who uses a firearm in a
crime. 
-- 
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right
to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect
themselves against Tyranny in government."
                    ---Thomas Jefferson---

Thomas Stedham is tstedham@dbtech.net

Dave  wrote in article
<01bbf2cf$1ad2df40$429e99ce@default>...
> Another alternative is to make it illegal for black people to have
> firearms.  If enforced, it would SOLVE the violent crime problem.
> 
> 


From tstedham@dbtech.net Sun Dec 29 02:12:30 PST 1996
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Subject: Could someone explain this?
Date: 27 Dec 1996 02:48:51 GMT
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I found this on a site, and I don't understand. Is this _really_ in the
Torah? And if so, is it still valid today?

< Sanhedrin 55b . A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically,
three years "and a day" old).

< Sanhedrin 54b . A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is
less than nine years old.

< Kethuboth 11b . "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl
it is nothing."

-- 
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right
to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect
themselves against Tyranny in government."
                    ---Thomas Jefferson---

Thomas Stedham is tstedham@dbtech.net


From tstedham@dbtech.net Sun Dec 29 07:41:23 PST 1996
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From: "Thomas Stedham" 
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So true, so true. Every large city in America, hell, every CITY in America,
has a "bad area". In every case, it is a non-white area. 

Chicago, New York, LA, Dallas, Atlanta, Philly, Cleveland, Newark, Seattle,
San Deigo, Gary, Louisville, Birmingham, Nashville, Richmond, Portland,
etc.

These places are not sink-holes of depravity because a bunch of "angry
white males" live in them. Quite the opposite...

THOMAS STEDHAM

Dan Leonik  wrote in article
<59vg5j$crl@bluto.accesscomm.net>...
> pkasieck@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Philip Kasiecki) wrote:
> 
> >In article <59qv38$217@is05.micron.net>,
> >Brian Smith (sbrian@micron.net) wrote:
> >: Once multiracialism runs its course the nation will be a cross between
> >: India, Africa, and Mexico.
> 
> >    I challenge Brian to prove this.
> 
> >: I'd rather have my kids grow up in a safe, civilized, and progressive
> >: White environment with low-crime than one of your beloved multiracial
> >: filth-holes.
> 
> >    I challenge Brian to provethat a non-White environment is inherently
> >crime-ridden.
> 
> Duh.
> 
> Why don't you shut off your computer, buy yourself some gas, and drive
> down to your local 'minority' area and mill about for a spell. I think
> you'll get the picture.
> 
> 
> 
> 



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