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From: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith)
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Subject: Re: Milton Kleim
Date: 12 Sep 1996 06:07:20 GMT
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Jeanne Kowalewski (jeannek@rio.com) writes:
> Keep your butt low and keep speaking from your heart, Milt. I commend you
> for continuing to stand for what you believe is right.

	Funny - people weren't commending him before.  What I'd like to
know, and I'm well aware I seem to have missed alot around here, is why
Milton is denouncing the movement with as much vehemency as he promoted
it with.  What's with the turnaround?  And in case people haven't noticed
- I'm one of the ones who has experienced general disenchantment with the
movement, including Milton's megalomania ("I pioneered the right wings'
use of the 'Net" - we were both there, remember?) - I bailed long ago,
without, however, losing my personal beliefs.  I'm still a hardened
zenophobe, but an intelligent and respectful one.  I still feel injustices
being done to people of my ethnicity, and frankly, they touch me more than
injustices being done to others, but that doesn't mean I can't be human,
and take into account the suffering of others.  A little political and
philosophical evolution can go a long way.  And yes, the 'movement' (more
akin to those within my bowels) is full of crazies.  Violent lunatics. 
Conspiracy-theory-ridden nuts.  I, myself, find it difficult to entertain a
conversation with many a white supremacist - hell, it's nigh near
impossible.  Even those whom are intelligent - and there are quite a few -
are a little twisted, but that's just my opinion.  Anyhow, enough of the
rant.  I'm still racist, always was, always will be.  I still wear a
celtic cross around my neck.  I just wanted to know why the turnaround? 
Why the disenchantment?  Have you learned what I knew when I met you?  The
'movement' is full of crackpots, and until such time as a legitimate
movement is formed with the interests of the people at heart - not their
own - I'm out of the loop.  I still have many people whom I consider
friends in the 'movement.'  If I consider them as such, it's because there
is more to their person than spouting 'nigger' every other word.  Even
those among my friends know what I'm saying - hell, they make a point of
recruiting loonies just to increase their numbers - and because they're
easy to indoctrinate and control.  This could get more interesting, but
I'm out of line by now.

Jason



From al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Sep 12 10:02:41 PDT 1996
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From: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith)
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Schroedinger Cat (scat@panix.com) writes:
> In the past, I have had quotes from August Spies, Georg Herwegh, Umberto Eco,
> and Andre Breton in my .sig.  I don't think any of them are skins; certainly
> none of them are particularly "skinhead role models."  I refuse to insulate
> myself from the rest of the world just because I'm a skinhead, f'crying out
> loud.
> 

	And lest we forget your longest running one: Kurt Vonnegut.  Glad
to see the same old shit flying around here... not.  Aside from the few
familiar old faces which are always like coming home, this place is still
complete spam.  Ta fer now!

Cheers!
Jason




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