From al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Sep 12 08:46:36 PDT 1996 Article: 64650 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!imci2!pull-feed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!super.zippo.com!zdc-e!news-out.microserve.net!news-in.microserve.net!news.sgi.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!news.acsu.buffalo.edu!news.drenet.dnd.ca!crc-news.doc.ca!nott!cunews!freenet-news.carleton.ca!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!al998 From: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith) Newsgroups: alt.skinheads,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Milton Kleim Date: 12 Sep 1996 06:07:20 GMT Organization: The National Capital FreeNet Lines: 38 Sender: al998@freenet5.carleton.ca (Jason Smith) Message-ID: <5189ao$oas@freenet-news.carleton.ca> References: <199609070135.SAA02878@abraham.cs.berkeley.edu> <50siqs$fui@freenet-news.carleton.ca><511inp$afi@freenet-news.carleton.ca> Reply-To: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith) NNTP-Posting-Host: freenet5.carleton.ca Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.skinheads:37240 alt.politics.nationalism.white:29265 alt.revisionism:64650 Jeanne Kowalewski (jeannek@rio.com) writes: > Keep your butt low and keep speaking from your heart, Milt. I commend you > for continuing to stand for what you believe is right. Funny - people weren't commending him before. What I'd like to know, and I'm well aware I seem to have missed alot around here, is why Milton is denouncing the movement with as much vehemency as he promoted it with. What's with the turnaround? And in case people haven't noticed - I'm one of the ones who has experienced general disenchantment with the movement, including Milton's megalomania ("I pioneered the right wings' use of the 'Net" - we were both there, remember?) - I bailed long ago, without, however, losing my personal beliefs. I'm still a hardened zenophobe, but an intelligent and respectful one. I still feel injustices being done to people of my ethnicity, and frankly, they touch me more than injustices being done to others, but that doesn't mean I can't be human, and take into account the suffering of others. A little political and philosophical evolution can go a long way. And yes, the 'movement' (more akin to those within my bowels) is full of crazies. Violent lunatics. Conspiracy-theory-ridden nuts. I, myself, find it difficult to entertain a conversation with many a white supremacist - hell, it's nigh near impossible. Even those whom are intelligent - and there are quite a few - are a little twisted, but that's just my opinion. Anyhow, enough of the rant. I'm still racist, always was, always will be. I still wear a celtic cross around my neck. I just wanted to know why the turnaround? Why the disenchantment? Have you learned what I knew when I met you? The 'movement' is full of crackpots, and until such time as a legitimate movement is formed with the interests of the people at heart - not their own - I'm out of the loop. I still have many people whom I consider friends in the 'movement.' If I consider them as such, it's because there is more to their person than spouting 'nigger' every other word. Even those among my friends know what I'm saying - hell, they make a point of recruiting loonies just to increase their numbers - and because they're easy to indoctrinate and control. This could get more interesting, but I'm out of line by now. Jason From al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Sep 12 10:02:41 PDT 1996 Article: 37221 of alt.skinheads Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!news.sgi.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!news.acsu.buffalo.edu!news.drenet.dnd.ca!crc-news.doc.ca!nott!cunews!freenet-news.carleton.ca!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!al998 From: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith) Newsgroups: alt.skinheads Subject: Re: *snarl* Date: 12 Sep 1996 05:31:53 GMT Organization: The National Capital FreeNet Lines: 17 Sender: al998@freenet5.carleton.ca (Jason Smith) Message-ID: <518789$nmb@freenet-news.carleton.ca> References: <50fljo$sro@freenet-news.carleton.ca> <01bb9b22$445f24e0$LocalHost@gateway.compuserve.com> <50p45o$go8@panix3.panix.com> Reply-To: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith) NNTP-Posting-Host: freenet5.carleton.ca Schroedinger Cat (scat@panix.com) writes: > In the past, I have had quotes from August Spies, Georg Herwegh, Umberto Eco, > and Andre Breton in my .sig. I don't think any of them are skins; certainly > none of them are particularly "skinhead role models." I refuse to insulate > myself from the rest of the world just because I'm a skinhead, f'crying out > loud. > And lest we forget your longest running one: Kurt Vonnegut. Glad to see the same old shit flying around here... not. Aside from the few familiar old faces which are always like coming home, this place is still complete spam. Ta fer now! Cheers! Jason
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