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Article 8517 of alt.skinheads:
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From: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith)
Subject: Re: alt.skinheads.nonpoli
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>
>From: stevew@ripco.com (Steve Wesolek)
>Subject: Attn. Racist Skins
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>Just out of curiosity do white power skinhead groups view anti-racist skins 
>as a serious enemy? And if so what anti-racist skinhead group is beleived to 
>be the most threatening. What other anti-racist skinhead groups do you guys 
>view as a threat?
>Just wondering
>steve wesolek
>
>   Methinks that you shouldn't be so cocky about your "friends."  

	Cocky?  Hardly.  In fact, if you read my post, I did mention that
non-political and  trad skins were friends of mine, not wanna-be SHARP
posers.  I can go anywhere, at anytime, and be surrounded by people who
aren't racist.  I can still interact with them, and even be friendly, as
long as they don't try to push their views down my throat, much as I would
not push mine down theirs.  It ain't restricted to skins.  If I were to
interact with only racists, my circle of aquaintances would be very small
indeed...  So, have a beer, kick up your feet, and relax, mate.

Cheers,
Jason

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Article 8518 of alt.skinheads:
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From: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith)
Subject: Re: can i be a skin even if i have really long hair?
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In a previous article, baspencer@cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp (Brad A. Spencer) says:

>   Ooops... fucked up...  Read below.
>  I just wonder who it is that's fucked up tho, Jason who insists 
>people are his friends ("really, they are!"), or steve wesolek
>who thinks that the two are separate entities, and then goes and
>agrees with them.  Yes, asking the question above indicates that
>you know that you are two different groups - otherwise you wouldn't
>have asked.  Reminds me of the fact that homophiles are really closet
>fags...  BTW, you don't like fags either, right?

	Ok.  That's enough.  I tried to be nice.  Obviously your point of
view is skewered beyond belief.  I'm not saying these people are my
friends, you widget, but I am trying to foster a little unity here.  We're
all skins, and we're supposed to be discussing beer, Oi, ska, women, men
(for the chicks), and aggro.  It's something that's common to us all. 
Fighting incessantly with each other isn't going to accomplish this, and
neither is your inane butting in.  So, in short, fuck you, you pubic remnant.

>  Pissed myself laughing - only wished you'd been here to drink it.

	Saving it for a rainy day?

Jason

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Article 8531 of alt.skinheads:
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From: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith)
Subject: Re: alt.skinheads.nonpoli
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In a previous article, baspencer@cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp (Brad A. Spencer) says:

>   Yes, my fault... *blush*  The fucking newsfeed has a lag of
>about 20 hours or so.  Didn't see your next few posts.

	Fair enough.

>: If I were to
>: interact with only racists, my circle of aquaintances would be very small
>: indeed...  
>
>   So what are you saying, here?  That racists are in the minority
>especially among skinheads?  How many of you out there would 
>agree with that, i.e., most skinheads have no racist feelings?
>And make that *absolutely* no racist feelings, not like Wesolek's
>idea of marriage according to race, but the freedom to mix.

	What I'm saying is this: if I hung out solely with my circle, or
"crew" of WP skins and associates, my circle of friends would be quite
small indeed.  When I go out to a bar, or grocery shopping, or what have
you, the vast majority of people are not actively racist.  Many are latent
racists, in the sense of "well, I'm not racist, as long as they don't bug
*me*," or "I'm not racist, I just don't like pakis..."  To say that most
people have no racist feelings at all would be stretching the realm of
reality.  When I say "not racist," I suppose I mean not actively racist,
just your average Joe.  I have a few friends with long hair, who aren't
racist.  I have a few friends who are skins who aren't racist, but then
again, aren't anti-racist.  I hope you understand the distinction I'm
trying to make.

>   I've already got a bloody Guiness in my hand ($3.00 a can).

	Chug!  Chug!

Cheers
Jason

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Article 8532 of alt.skinheads:
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From: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith)
Subject: Re: can i be a skin even if i have really long hair?
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In a previous article, baspencer@cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp (Brad A. Spencer) says:

	Ok.  We addressed this in anohter post.  

[snip]

Cheers
Jason

PS: Thanks for the warning, but "Golden Showers" aren't for me... :-)
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Article 8533 of alt.skinheads:
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From: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith)
Subject: RE: BRAD GUY
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In a previous article, revyhwh@aol.com (Rev YHWH) says:

>In article <34altp$mko@news.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp>,
>baspencer@cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp (Brad A. Spencer) writes:
>
>Cool man, cool.

	I wish people would provide quotes for reference when they respond
to something.  Just a pet-peeve.  And before you say it, I know I'm guilty
of it in my reply to Brad.  My editor fucked up, or rather, I hit the
wrong key, and couldn't undelete...

Jason



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Article 8517 of alt.skinheads:
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From: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith)
Subject: Re: alt.skinheads.nonpoli
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References: <347264$19d@news.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp> <340rv4$p00@search01.news.aol.com> <33vdl6$5gg@ionews.io.org>   Boy oh, who fucked up here?
>
>From: stevew@ripco.com (Steve Wesolek)
>Subject: Attn. Racist Skins
>Message-ID: 
>Sender: usenet@rci.ripco.com (Net News Admin)
>Organization: RCI, Chicago, IL
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>Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 06:17:25 GMT
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>
>Just out of curiosity do white power skinhead groups view anti-racist skins 
>as a serious enemy? And if so what anti-racist skinhead group is beleived to 
>be the most threatening. What other anti-racist skinhead groups do you guys 
>view as a threat?
>Just wondering
>steve wesolek
>
>   Methinks that you shouldn't be so cocky about your "friends."  

	Cocky?  Hardly.  In fact, if you read my post, I did mention that
non-political and  trad skins were friends of mine, not wanna-be SHARP
posers.  I can go anywhere, at anytime, and be surrounded by people who
aren't racist.  I can still interact with them, and even be friendly, as
long as they don't try to push their views down my throat, much as I would
not push mine down theirs.  It ain't restricted to skins.  If I were to
interact with only racists, my circle of aquaintances would be very small
indeed...  So, have a beer, kick up your feet, and relax, mate.

Cheers,
Jason

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Article 8531 of alt.skinheads:
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From: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith)
Subject: Re: alt.skinheads.nonpoli
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In a previous article, baspencer@cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp (Brad A. Spencer) says:

>   Yes, my fault... *blush*  The fucking newsfeed has a lag of
>about 20 hours or so.  Didn't see your next few posts.

	Fair enough.

>: If I were to
>: interact with only racists, my circle of aquaintances would be very small
>: indeed...  
>
>   So what are you saying, here?  That racists are in the minority
>especially among skinheads?  How many of you out there would 
>agree with that, i.e., most skinheads have no racist feelings?
>And make that *absolutely* no racist feelings, not like Wesolek's
>idea of marriage according to race, but the freedom to mix.

	What I'm saying is this: if I hung out solely with my circle, or
"crew" of WP skins and associates, my circle of friends would be quite
small indeed.  When I go out to a bar, or grocery shopping, or what have
you, the vast majority of people are not actively racist.  Many are latent
racists, in the sense of "well, I'm not racist, as long as they don't bug
*me*," or "I'm not racist, I just don't like pakis..."  To say that most
people have no racist feelings at all would be stretching the realm of
reality.  When I say "not racist," I suppose I mean not actively racist,
just your average Joe.  I have a few friends with long hair, who aren't
racist.  I have a few friends who are skins who aren't racist, but then
again, aren't anti-racist.  I hope you understand the distinction I'm
trying to make.

>   I've already got a bloody Guiness in my hand ($3.00 a can).

	Chug!  Chug!

Cheers
Jason

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Article 8533 of alt.skinheads:
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From: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith)
Subject: RE: BRAD GUY
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In a previous article, revyhwh@aol.com (Rev YHWH) says:

>In article <34altp$mko@news.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp>,
>baspencer@cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp (Brad A. Spencer) writes:
>
>Cool man, cool.

	I wish people would provide quotes for reference when they respond
to something.  Just a pet-peeve.  And before you say it, I know I'm guilty
of it in my reply to Brad.  My editor fucked up, or rather, I hit the
wrong key, and couldn't undelete...

Jason



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Article 8541 of alt.skinheads:
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From: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith)
Subject: Re: BRAD GUY
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In a previous article, jumpstarts@aol.com (Jumpstarts) says:

>Point taken I'm generally sloppy about it myself, but on the otherhand
>there's no need to copy the entire post either.  It gets old reading the
>same stuff again and again, and its a waste of bandwidth.

	Bang on.  Edit it so that only the relevant portions remain. 
Those who quote an 25k post, only to add a 2 line comment at the end are
the worst offenders.

Jason

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Article 8543 of alt.skinheads:
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From: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith)
Subject: Re: Romper Stomers
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In a previous article, ssavit01@solix.fiu.edu (Sean Savitt) says:

>Anyone ever seen this movie called Romper Stompers?
>My bud told me about it...said it was a fictional version of 
>day-to-day Skinhead life.  Anyway, he said it was 
>interesting (they beat the shit out of anyone they didn't
>like, etc.). 
>
>I thought it'd be cool to check it out...but I looked
>fuckin' everywhere for it, and can't find it.
>
>Anyone got any info on this?  Does this movie really exist?

	It most certainly does.  Is there anybody on this group who
*hasn't* seen it?  I saw it at a local "alternative" theatre, where they
show reruns and artsy films.  If there's one around where you live, check
it out there.  There's also a soundtrack, but I don't remember the address
where you can get it.  Anyone?

Jason
This one's for Magoo...

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Article 8562 of alt.skinheads:
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From: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith)
Subject: Re: can i be a skin even if i have really long hair?
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In a previous article, stevew@ripco.com (Steve Wesolek) says:

>Jason and I are Skinheads. He happens to be racist. I happen to be anti-racist.
>Just because we have different veiws on racisism dosen't mean that we cant 
>agree on other things. 10 to 1 that if we were both standing on a street 
>corner and then some lefty hippy came and started to fuck with us we would 
>both beat the mother fucker down. TOGETHER. Then we would either go have a 
>beer or beat the shit out of each other. But the important thing is that while 
>skinheads may separate into separate camps, we do ,however, stick together for 
>some causes. I don't mean to speak for Jason but I was just trying to make a 
>point.

	Point well taken.  You're probably right, I would, assuming you
weren't giving me a hard time to begin with, back you against some hairy
bastard.  I try to keep politics out of my personal relationships.  What I
do at the ballot box, and in my activism, stays there.

Jason

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Article 8563 of alt.skinheads:
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From: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith)
Subject: Re: YOUR A BUNCH A LOOOOOOSERS!
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In a previous article, drewg@cml.com () says:

>
>GET A LIFE YOU FUCKING CAVEMEN!!! YOUR THE BIGGEST BUNCH OF BRAINLESS
>PRETTY BOYS ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH!!! GET OUT OF YOUR BASEMENT AND
>INTO THE REAL WORLD. THIS IS THE 90's AND WE AIN'T IN GERMANY YOU
>CONFUSED, DOGG FUCKIN', MASTERBATEING,SORRY ASS PUNKS! IF I EVER SEE
>ONE OF YOU ASSHOLES WITHIN A 3 MILE RADIOUS OF ME, I'LL SHOOT YOUR
>ACNE COVERED ASS'S OFF!!!
> DON'T YOU LOOSERS HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO WITH TIME OTHER THEN WALK
>THE STREETS OF THE CITIES WHERE U LIVE? WITH YOUR 30 HOLE DOC'S, AND
>YOUR SHAVED HEADS. YOU SAY THAT YOUR TAKING A STAND FOR YOUR RACE BUT
>ALL YOUR DOING IS BRINGIN' YOUR RACE DOWN. TELL ME SOMETHING, DO YOU
>EVER SEE JEW'S OR BLACKS OR ANY OTHER RACE BEING SO FUCKIN' IGNORANT AS
>TO BEAT UP OTHER RACES BASED ON THE COLOUR OF THEIR SKIN OR RELIGION????
> I'M 13 YEARS OLD. AND I HAVE MORE BRAINS THEN YOU MORONS WILL EVER
>HAVE! AND YES...I'M NOT WHITE! AND IF I WAS I STILL HAVE U RACIST SHIT
>DRAGGED OUT ONTO THE STREET AND SHOT!
>
>                                               DRE
>
>P.S...ASSHOLES!
>
>ComputerLink 'the easy way to bbs' (416) 233 - 7150 
>

	Anybody want to touch this one?  And for your information, "DRE,"
yes, I do see Blacks and Jews beating people because of the color of their
hear of the Black Panthers?  How about the Kach party?  I'd
almost swear you were a pre-pubescent 13 year-old...  Get your diaper out
of your mouth.

P.S: Asshole!

Jason

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