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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 96 8:03:15 GMT
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juggler@interlog.com (sheldon sheps) wrote:

>Smith makes it clear that:

>1. The Nationalist Alliance postings in this newsgroup are organized.

Where did I EVER say that?  There are several different kinds of White
nationalists on this newsgroup other than NA people, with several
varying beliefs on how we should solve the racial problem.

However, are YOU organizing with fellow Jews to oppose White
racialism?  Maybe you are merely giving away your OWN tactics.  I DO
know for a fact that Nizkorites often post in an organized effort.

>2. He has no respect for this Newsgroup

YOU are the one without respect for MY right to post messages
pertaining to militia I find relevant.   As posted:

1)  The original intent of the Founders and the Constitution:
multiracial or pro-homogeny?

2)   The government's anti-White policies:  tyrannical or just?

3)  The Jewish involvement in banning guns:  an illusion or a true
danger to liberty by a very powerful force?

>>It doesn't matter; we can come on as different ID's if we want to,

>You wouldn't, would you?  You'd show that much disrespect to the
>internet?  

If you showed such disrespect for the right to express my views over
the internet as to try to censor, then yes, I would consider using
other ID's as a matter of principle.

>I never,ever, ever  thought of that.  But you've got a lot
>to lose if you do, for a variety of reasons.  Here's just one.  There
>are lots of groups and  site administrators that are dying for any
>reason other than censorship to stop providing White Supremacist
>newsgroups. 

I fail to see how using different ID's would justify "groups and site
administrators" to stop providing Internet service to me.  In fact,
some ISP's such as AOL provide up to FIVE screen names.  I mentioned
screen names to illustrate a point:  you are taking the road of
censorship, which is ALWAYS the wrong road, and is usually
ineffective.

>3. The Nationalist Alliance Will Use Any Tactics it Can
>-------------------------------------------------------
>to Disrupt this Newsgroup
>-------------------------

This is false.  Like I said before, you can choose whether to respond
or not to respond.  I have interrupted no message of yours at all. You
are trying to set up straw men.   You have perfect freedom to conduct
whatever discussions and postings you wish.

>And this time round Smith says that personal attacks are just add ons:

>> Brian Smith
>>Actually, no.  I fully responded to the merits of your post before and
>>the paragraph referred is attached at the end as an afterthought.  The
>>goal of NA is not disrupt ANYTHING but to present ideas and
>>discussion.  

LOL!  And you don't think militia people routinely use attacks?  What
do you 90% of what Arlin posts?  Pot, kettle, black!

>The Nationalist Alliance is not interested in gratuitous attacks on
>individuals. They just want  to present ideas for discussion. The
>Nationalist Alliance doesn't want to disrupt this newsgroup.  Ok,
>let's hold him to his own  words and see how  the Nationalist Alliance
>measures up.  

Let's do that. 

>Let's count, shall we.

>1. >I'm flattered!  Let's see what you have to say, Shelly. 
>>
>2. >"My name's Sheldon.  My relatives in New York call me "Shelly.

>3. >This would be a good idea but most people instinctively scroll
>down tosee what was being responded to!   Nice try, Shelly!

>4. >Notice "Shelly" did not deny he was a Jew!

>5. >It doesn't matter; we can come on as different ID's if we want
>to,>"Shelly." 

Once again, Shelly, you are cutting out the substance of my posts and
compiling extraneous matter to create a straw man.  I could do the
same with a number of militia people, and include several death
threats.  

>The Nationalist Alliance  searchs out any weakness they can find in
>any one who responds, so that they will respond with more insults and
>look foolish. They  will dig up anything and use any tactic and
>possiblity they  can. They're trolling with flame bait. 

Wrong.  See the above.  I think most White nationalists who post here
and interested in alerting their fellow White brothers to the threat
of eradication which their people face.  Each militia member is free
to draw his or her own conclusion to these views.  However, you wish
to BAN these views.  It appears your Jewishness is showing its true
colors here.

>In the last post, they tried the standard Jooo gambit.  No sale. This
>time he is going after one of the most precious things someone has,
>the name they use. He thinks that constantly  calling me "Shelly" will
>bother me.  No sale.

Fine.  If  you prefer "Sheldon" I have no problem with that.  I am not
"going after" anyone.  Your efforts to create a straw man are a little
too obvious here.

>Even in the Nationalist Alliances  view of the Jooo as enemy, it can't
>matter whether that Jooo is 'Sheldon Sheps' or is 'Shelly Sheps'.  Its
>just the Nationalist Alliance and Brian Smith  being cruel, hoping to
>get a rise out of me.

>Sick.

Sheldon, now come on.  If you want to be "Mr. Sheps" that's fine by
me.  I can oblige.  Nonetheless, I notice you asserted NO COMPLAINT
when people made creative epithets out of MY name.  But I those
attacks are OK with you, right?

However, it is your effort to pull the big switch of CENSORSHIP which
I do not abide.  That means YOU are deciding what is relevant to
militia and what is not.  I cannot agree with that position.

Sincerely,

Brian Smith
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pka00085@alpha.wvup.wvnet.edu (jrs) wrote:

>Wow,  looks like we have a real winner here. Hey smith, if you want to
>impress people, you should probably take lessons from strom. At least
>he can fool the bubbas who can't see through his transparent psuedo
>intellectualism. You're making a fool of yourself posting in
>misc.activism.militia. Not many bubbas here for you to recruit. Go
>over to apwp where you belong.

Well, jrs, why don't you go over to soc.culture.African-American or
"alt.non-white"?  I'm sure your beloved darkies would love to hear
>from  you!!  You evidently like diversity so much, why aren't you over
THERE with your own kind rather than wasting your time in the militia
group?  

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>>Jewish financial control is a proverb.  _The International Jew_ by

>Sort of like "every cloud has a silver lining"?  Which anybody whose
>life hasn't been a bed of roses knows is bullshit.

That Jews have wielded disproportionate financial power throughout
history is difficult to dispute.  

>Wow, my head reels.  The Jews in charge in Poland were brutalised by
>the Poles but saved by the Germans?  I had heard a rumour that you
>are the same person as someone posting Holocaust denial on alt.revisionism
>under the name of "Kurt Stele".  Is that you?  Are you just another
>run of the mill Holocaust denier like "Kurt Stele"?

Let me guess.  This is another Nizkor claim that "you are really so
and so" just using a different name.  On alt.revisionism the Nizkor
people claim always every revisionist is really 3 other people, that
there are really only 2 revisionists posting at any given time.  I've
seen Kurt Stele on alt.revisionism and a few other places.  You
usually don't see too many NA on alt.revisionism although the
newsgroup is folllowed.  Stele isn't NA (as far as I know) but my
guess is he's sympathetic.  I don't believe in the Holocaust myself
because it appears the evidence isn't sufficient for it.  

>Well, there was a quite long history of pograms in eastern Europe,
>that predated Bolshevism.  What is your source for statistics on
>the number of Jews in the Soviet secret police during World War II?

I have books nearby I can get to without too much trouble, but
virtually every head of the KGB/NKVD/MVD/OGPU and whatever other
acronym the Soviets used to describe their genocidal secret political
police, has been JEWISH.  Yagoda, Yezhov, Trotsky, Andropov, Beria and
all the others.  

>>Your attempt to make light of a very well-documented fact Mrs. Finsten
>>does little to change either its reality or its lethal impact on the
>>White race.  You may find it amusing or insignificant, but my race's

>I admit I was making fun of you.  Every once in a while I just can't
>take the paranoid antisemitism seriously and get silly.  Sorry about
>that.

Alright.

>>genocide by the Jewish establishment is not something I consider with
>>levity.  The White race is being deliberately destroyed by the
>>anti-White race-mixing propaganda the Jewish media pumps out in
>>virtually every film, commercial, and sitcom.  Whites will NOT survive
>>as a people under indefinite Jewish media control.

>I agree with you that the quality of commercial television is appalling.
>That's why I got rid of mine years ago.

I earnestly agree here.  

Brian Smith
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Lissa Valerian  wrote:



>On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, PGISSource wrote:
>> In article <846622984$3050@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>> writes:
>>
>> >Mr. Wizard, the fine promoter of the communist dream of
>> >egalitarianism!!
>>
>> egalitarianism? Like in equal opportunity for all? Yes. And proud of it,
>> too. Do you have a problem with that?
>>

>Hey, hey Mr. Wiz...   I've just realized that Brianazi has been trying to
>insult us with that phrase "egalitarianism".  And here I thot he was
>complimenting us for believing in the Declaration of Independence, and its
>proclamation of the equality of all.

>After all, the Constitution is a VERY "Egalitarian" document, as
>demonstrated in Amendment XIV:

Haw haw haw!!  Noone ever said, Mrs. "Valerian" that the Constitution
wasn't later MADE into an egalitarian document or subverted into one.
The Constitution was never MADE to BE an egalitarian document!  The
Founding Fathers PROHIBITED non-Whites from participating in society.
The early Americans SHOVED the non-Whites off the land and took it!
No people founds a nation just to gratuitously HAND IT OVER to any
non-White who FLOATS in from the sea!!   Do you think the Chinese
would hand their nation over to African and muds?  Do you think
they're that STUPID?  HARDLY!!  Nobody's THAT stupid or suicidal!
Neither were the Founding Fathers.   Our White leaders "sold us out"
to non-Whites for the goals of the globalist New World Order!

Egalitarians and Clintonistas like Lissa "Valerian" and The Wizard of
Communism want to make the Founding Fathers out to be people they
obviously were not, and followers of creeds which they obviously were
OPPOSED TO!!  Nice try, Mrs. Valerian.   I think you would make a
WONDERFUL historian for "Black history"!!  Your level of respect for
historical facts suits you quite well for the job!

Brian Smith
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Richard Kann  wrote:

>You mean kind of like in WWII when the whites, blacks, and asians fought
>together to kill the nazi's. Opps, I guess thats not what you meant.

The U.S. Army succeeded because it was a predominantly White army.
Had the U.S. Army been a predominantly BLACK army, the outcome would
have been MUCH different!

>So tell me, how many of the people in your group are blonde, blue-eyed
>aryans. And will the ones that are not be eliminated?

This is inaccurate.  There are Whites of EVERY White sub-ethnicity in
the ALLIANCE:  Nordics, Mediterraneans, Alpines, Dinarics, and
Baltics.  The National Alliance is a Pan-Aryan organization.  It
stands for those of European descent WHEREVER they may be found!

Brian Smith
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smaceach@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Scott MacEachern) wrote:

>mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney) wrote:

>>Did ANYONE else have a computer?

>No. That's the point. Brian keeps on talking about 'advanced
>technological societies' as if we should be finding WWW servers in
>Africa in the 18th century. 

Garbage.  The point is that Whites in the 18th century were still
LIGHT YEARS ahead of African civilization, computer or no computer!!
Blacks in Africa, then as now, lived in predominantly STONE AGE
conditions!!  They produced no advanced civilization to speak of
PERIOD!!  Nor CAN they.  They do not have the cognitive abilities!

>Of course, we don't. Africa is _poor_, and
>for most of the last 300 years it's been going through a terrible
>cycle of enslavement, exploitation and death -- all of which you're
>probably very proud of. 

More excuses!  The Liberal will ALWAYS give excuses for why Blacks
cannot figure things out for themselves or sustain an advanced
civilization!!   EVERY race has experienced enslavement!!   Europeans
too.   So what?  The fact is, Blacks have NEVER been able to even
REMOTELY produce anything even RESEMBLING an advanced technological
society, or one resembling a colonial or MEDIEVAL Whites society!!
This is so even though that White technology is WIDELY available!  

>It's pretty sick to revel in holocausts as you
>do -- but just plain stupid to expect that a continent undergoing a
>holocaust should have the same resources to apply to invention as the
>people who were doing the killing. Fiddling in Auschwitz...

The Holocaust is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated!! Read 'em and
weep:

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
http://www.codoh.com/
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
http://www.air-photo.com/
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html

>>I suppose the Blacks had airplanes first?

>Nope. Nor computers. OTOH, we see these things being invented and
>developed in your 'mongrelized' United States, not in any of the
>high-reflectance areas of Europe that you seem to love so well....

Crap!!  These inventions were invented by Whites, Mr. MacEachern.  Or
are you now going to attribute those to Blacks?  I wouldn't be
surprised given your record for your utter LACK of honesty.  Then
again, one can never expect a liberal to admit facts which contradicts
their infantile views of "racial equality" (sic).   

Nice try, MacEachern, trying to imply those inventions were the works
of "mongrels."  You're a slippery one aren't  you?  And by the way,
several inventions credited to America were in fact ALREADY developed
or NEARLY developed in Europe, such as the car, and the helicopter.

>>Just the opposite. We're listening very closely to you, but not hearing 
>>anything of substance.

>Really, Ian? What shall we talk about next, then? Whether Africans
>knew how to use fire? States in Africa? Whether Africans ever defeated
>European forces in battle? Morphological differences between races?
>Lactose intolerance? Infant mortality rates in the United States? The
>Pioneer Fund? I've gone over all of this before, and have been
>continuously astounded at how profoundly ignorant you and your NA
>friends are, but I'm happy to do it again. Shall we dance? Where do
>you want to start?

Anywhere!  You haven't proven SQUAT refuting the differences of the
races.  You're full of only posturing.  You talk about smelting in
Africa and flash around your degree as if that settles anything!!  You
have no compelling support whatsoever!

>>You're really grasping at straws now. If the best refutation you can come-up 
>>with consists of a typo made many days ago, then you're in bad shape. Do you 
>>think anyone's impressed? I doubt it.

>I have no idea whether anyone is impressed, and I don't really care.
>The only 'source' I've seen for any of your bullshit so far is an
>85-year-old encyclopedia. So you'll forgive me if _I'm_ not impressed.

Gee, Scott, how old are Mendel's laws of genetics?  To a liberal, old
means discredited!!  As if facts have a shelf life!

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"The name's Scott.  I like to pretend like I'm an expert in
anthropology and what-not, but really I'm just full of hot air.  Don't
ask me for anything more than soundbites!!!"



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Richard Kann  wrote:


>Brian Smith wrote:

>> America's future is racial balkanization.  Multiracial militia-types
>> will have NO power at ALL to prevent ethnic divisions!   Blacks will
>> have Black groups, Mestizos with their have their group, Whites will
>> have their group.   You can no more prevent this racial polarization
>> than you can prevent birds from flocking together.  Sorry to dispel
>> your happy delusions.   Nature hath decreed otherwise!!


>	Which part of nature did you have this conversation with? The Rocks? Or
>the trees?

>	Sorry to inform you that I am not having delusions as there are many
>multi-racial militia regiments here in the state. In addition there are
>some black, cuban, native-american and other regiments. These came about
>because of the lack of diversity in some areas. However, we all work
>together and train together. And should it come to be needed we all will
>fight together. I've talked to many people of all different races,
>creeds, and religions. We are all of like mind when it comes to the
>problems of this country. And like-minded when it comes to the utter
>distaste of the KKK, nazi, appliance dealers and aryan notion shops.

>	I think thou shalt be the one who has to wakenz up.

The majority of EVERY RACE are tied to their OWN exclusive racial
groups.  The fact that there are a few non-loyals in the militia does
not refute the brunt of every race.  Neither does it guarantee that
when the time comes, that EVEN THESE TOO won't throw their lot in with
their OWN people!!  

It is the inescapable rule of history that one's destiny is tied to
one's people.  One's instinctive loyalty is too one's own people, and
people will choose loyalty to their own kind over loyalty to another
people.   That's LIFE!

Brian Smith
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smaceach@polar.bowdoin.edu wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>> America's future is racial balkanization.  

>Given the state of the Balkans these days, this certainly sounds attractive,
>doesn't it?

Then you're finally getting the point, Scott!  

Maybe there IS hope for the liberal!  (I'm not crossing my fingers
though!!)

Brian Smith
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pgissource@aol.com (PGISSource) wrote:

Why it's the Wizard of Communism!!  I saw _The Marxist Reader_ on sale
in the public library on the 25 cent rack!!  Most of the chapters were
on equality, with emphasis on racial egalitarianism of course.  I
thought of you, Wizard!!!

By the way, I'd frame that poster of Marx you have on your wall.  You
know, the one which says "all races are equal and united" beneath it?
Don't forget though, lamination IS an alternative!!

Happy Ghost's day!!!

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

>In article <846653584$5873@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>> I'm not intimidated!  

> Then why you are on this thread whimpering about it rather than
>addressing the proof of your commie beliefs, eh? Why don't you quit
>cowering in fear of the truth and respond to the following:

>   (Inter) NATIONAL ALLIANCE = GUTLESS COMMIES
>   (Inter) NATIONAL ALLIANCE ONCE AGAIN PROVEN COMMIES
>   (Inter) NATIONAL ALLIANCE OPENLY FAVORS COMMIE ECONOMICS!

>not to mention a dozen or two more proofs that you've been hiding from for
>weeks now.

>you little euro-commie dupes just don't get it, do you?

>Mr. Wizard




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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:

>HEY ALL YOU FEDS WHO READ THIS NEWSGROUP!!  SEE  THE ABOVE QUOTE??  NOW DO
>YOU KNOW WHO THE *REAL* DOMESTIC TERRORISTS ARE IN THIS COUNTRY??

>Arlin H. Adams

Pathetic Arlin, just pathetic.  Do you think when the times comes for
collecting guns they are going to give two acorns for whether you are
"racial" or not?  Stop begging for mercy and brownie points from the
Feds.   it won't be forthcoming.   Stand on your own two feet like a
man, or a woman, or who(what)ever you are, and stop snivelling.

Brian Smith
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"Jefferson's vision of the future America--after the hypothetical
abolition of slavery by the slaveowners themselves--is a lily-white
one. All the ex-slaves are to be deported to Africa. In the meantime,
free blacks have to be eliminated from Virginia. Jefferson's proposals
for their elimination were too draconian to be stomached even by his
fellow slaveowners (above, chapter 7). His proposed (and rejected)
amendments to the Virginian legal code included a recommendation for
the penalization of what Virginian slaveowners called "miscegenation."

"Jefferson made provision for the case of a white woman who might bear
a mulatto child. Both the mother and her child were to leave Virginia,
immediately after the birth. In the event of their failure to do so,
mother and child were declared to be "beyond the protection of the
law." In the circumstances, that proposition was a license for
lynching: for the physical destruction of mother and child by any
Virginian who might care to do the job. Volunteers would not be
lacking." 

The Long Affair: Thomas Jefferson and the French Revolution, 1785-1800
Conor Cruise O'Brien Cloth, 384 pages, pp. 301-25

Brian Smith
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daddison@lville.mindspring.com (Don Addison) wrote:

>I had no absolutely no intention of getting involved in the little
>flame war you brought to this NG. Until Brian Smith decided to make an
>inane comment regarding my sig file. 

What "inane" comment of mine are you referring to, sensitive Mr.
Addison?

>Just wanted to make your people aware that at one time, my unit was
>willing to share information with KKK and NA groups in our area. We
>thought that you people had an interest in preserving the Constitution
>and our nation. We were willing to overlook your racial views because
>we had a common interest.

Many members of the Militia and the NA still DO have a common
interest.  Several militia people are sympathetically racial to the NA
and are on cooperative terms with NA people, and vice versa.

>Come to find out that the KKK had decided that we were the enemy and
>if the balloon went up, they were going to fire upon us as willingly
>as they would UN forces. They're reasoning was that, if we accepted
>blacks in the militia, then we were traitors.

>You and the KKK are wrong, because YOU are the traitors. If you want
>to go off into the mountains and create your little 10% solution
>homeland, then feel free to do so. We will not stop you. We seek to
>restore the nation that our founding fathers left to our stewardship.
>Go create your own little third world country. Go use your own white
>power newsgroup. You are not wanted in our Constitutional Republic.
>You are not wanted in our newsgroup.

No respectable Founding Father would have been caught DEAD with your
views.  THEY would have been at war with you.  If you want to side
against them, and with the New World Order's plan for a single mulatto
race, one to whom the Constitution is the equivalent of doggy-doo,
then go ahead.  You turn your back on your own kin, on your ancestors.
Traitors are only held in contempt by future generations.

You have no people then.  And don't say that "our people are Blacks
and Asians."   Nope.  Those people have their OWN groups and they
don't want you in them.    

>NOTE TO THE MODERATOR:I've tried to refrain from saying this up to
>this point, because I believe the 1st amendment is just as important
>as any other, but

>BAN THESE STUPID SON OF A BITCHES!!!!!!
>Pagan, Patriot, and Proud of both!

No pagan ancestor would have even JOKED about integrating their stock
with non-Whites!!  Their pagan culture and existence would have been
eradicated!

Brian Smith
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:

>Translation: The National Alliance says that white folks are
>too stupid to govern themselves.

Not stupid.  McVay, only you mentioned stupidity, as you yourself said
that Blacks were stupid.   Rather, Wwhites have been LIED TO by the
Jewish media!!!  

Brian Smith
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pka00085@alpha.wvup.wvnet.edu (jrs) wrote:

Here's how to respond to fools like "jrs":

>1. The best way to handle it would be for no one to ever respond to a
>post from one of these idiots. Sure, they will respond among
>themselves, but they would tire of that quickly. They have an agenda,
>and simply patting eachothers backs does not serve their agenda. They
>want to recruit. They do not realise that they are wasting their time,
>and they are ruining this ng. When you reply to them on their terms,
>you further their agenda.

READ:   don't discuss different points or challenge one's own beliefs,
or subject them to new information.  Why, it might refute one's
preconceived notions!  We CAN'T have that!!

>2. Knowing that many people cannot resist responding to these idiots,
>whenever you respond, *never* argue with them on their points. You
>will never change their minds on anything, and they will lie as much
>as they need to in order satisfy their need to believe that they are
>furthering their agenda. Even though they are failing, this is such a
>waste of bandwidth it's pitiful. Remember, they have an agenda.

Please give just ONE INSTANCE of NA people "lying" as you have so
accused.  One who makes such an accusation surely can back it up,
right?  I'm waiting "jrs."

>3. If you must reply to a racist's posts, try to concentrate on ad
>hominum insults, etc. I realize this is not exactly kosher, but in
>light of the facts elucidated in item 2 above, it is appropriate. Just
>call them the idiots they are.  There is always the danger of flame
>wars in this approach, but if the moderator was doing his job, they
>would not be here. REMEMBER, the most appropriate response to these
>idiots is to follow the suggestion in item number 1 above. NEVER
>respond to a post from a racist or national alliance member.

READ:  "I can't argue with the veracity of the NA posts, therefore I
should stoop to mindless ad hominem."

How intelligent of you "jrs."!!  

Brian Smith
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Lissa Valerian  wrote, while singing the
praises of homosexuality:

>If a militia claims to be that constitutional militia which whould defend
>the life, liberty, and property of ALL US Citizens from intrusive
>government, then why would they NOT accept into their organization those
>citizens who also would assist to defend the life, liberty and property of
>ALL citizens, regardless of their orientation?   As far as I'm concerned,
>orientation is a "non-issue".  

We already KNEW that welcoming queers was a non-issue with you:  that
is, you would welcome them with open arms!!!

>It was not mentioned in the constitution.
>And a Citizen is a citizen is a citizen, regardless of his personal life
>behaviors, (i.e. religion, choice of partner, etc).

I don't care WHAT the Constitution says. Homosexuality is an abnormal,
unhealthy DEATH-style.  AIDS is only another reminder of that fact.

>If a militia which claims to be constitutionally founded refused to allow
>citizens to join their ranks simply because of this issue, I would
>challenge then that they are not truly motivated to defend the
>constitutional rights of each and every citizen, but rather, their own
>agenda.  

We already KNOW what YOUR agenda is:  Clintonianism.

Brian Smith
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juggler@interlog.com (sheldon sheps) wrote:

>I've reposted Brian Smith's message in full because it is worth
>reading in its entirety. This is rarely true of postings of the
>Nationalist Alliance and therefore Rule #3 (see below) should be
>followed whereever possible. 

I'm flattered!  Let's see what you have to say, Shelly. 

>>Oh Horse pucky!!  Jews constantly invade alt.revisionism and
>>white-nationalism newsgroups to viciously attack the home posters
>>there.  If you can't withstand exchanging outside viewpoints, then go
>>start up your own internet, coward.

>I'm sorry that the Nationalist Alliance can't find a home on the
>internet where you can post without anyone responding negatively to
>your views.  Might I suggest that you follow the internet procedures
>to form a moderated newsgroup, use mailing lists or other methods.  

>However, the problems of the Nationalist Alliance in your own
>newsgroups are no justification to invade this one. 

>>
>>>Is this newsgroup to become another version of alt.revisionism or
>>>alt.white-power?  Are all the newsgroups to become the same?. I just
>>>don't want the Nationalist Alliance destroying property values in our
>>>neighbourhood. I just want them to stay in their place, in their
>>>ancestral home on the internet.  Surely the Nationalist Alliance can
>>>appreciate our concerns.

>He said it:
>>
>>No, we DON'T appreciate your concerns!
>    ^^^^

>The concerns of this newsgroup are the politics and practicalities of
>the militia movement.  If the members of the Nationalist Alliance
>posting in this newsgroup don't appreciate our concerns then stop
>disrupting the postings of those concerned. 

>The concerns of this newsgroup are not gardening or the politics of
>the middle east.  The concern of this newsgroup can even be
>distinguished from issues surrounding the 2nd Amendment and gun
>control; those topics belong to talk.politics.guns. This newsgroup is
>concerned with the militia movement. 

1)  The militia's purpose is to oppose tyranny, right?  And the
government's anti-White policies aren't tyrannical?   

2)  The Constitution was created by men of White race, men who
prohibited non-Whites from participation in their society.  You don't
think the Founding Fathers' actions are relevant to discerning the
Constitution's original intent?  

3)  The militia is in favor of gun ownership.  There is an extensive
Jewish campaign, which includes the Jewish ADL and Jewish
congresspersons (Shumer, Boxer, Feinstein), who are determined to ban
"assault rifles" and other guns as well.   You don't think this is
relevant to the militia?  

>>>2. These are not random postings by individuals.  This is the
>>>Nationalist Alliance moving in on a newsgroup that has existed quite
>>>happily without them for well over a year.  They weren't here when the
>>>militia guys were getting hell over Oklahoma City, and they weren't
>>>here for Richard Jewell.  They're here because it is a nice place to
>>>spread hate and recruit.  They can do so on the internet, I just want
>>>them to do it in the groups that they created.
>>
>>TOO BAD topic cop. 

>__________________________________________________________________
>In case anyone missed, Smith doesn't deny my previous paragraph. 
>___________________________________________________________________

That's right!  It's too bad if you think our issues are irrelevant to
the militia and want to CENSOR us for that reason.  

Well, I think the topics ARE relevant, as I explained above.   And you
don't!  Well, that is unfortunate for you then!  Like I said before I
say again:

TOO BAD, TOPIC COP!

>Rules for Responding to the Nationalist Alliance 
>------------------------------------------------    


>1. Respond Specifically 
>------------------------
>In dealing with the Nationalist Alliance postings (while they are
>still here) don't try to challenge everything they say.  Pick a few
>points you are familiar with and stick to them.  Don't respond to
>every message. Sometimes their own words speak more clearly than any
>response.

Gee I hope Arlin follows this one!

>2. If Possible, Respond Civilly
>-------------------------------
> If possible, skip the insults.  The Nationalist Alliance is simply
>pushing emotional buttons to avoid looking at specifics.  Our  message
>is that there is no support for the postings of the Nationalist
>Alliance in this newsgroup. But that doesn't mean we can't have fun. 

This is a good suggestion for that cowardly creep Mike Vanderboegh!

>3. Don't repost messages for the Nationalist Alliance.
>------------------------------------------------------
>Respond accurately, but specifically and edit out anything you are not
>commenting on. Whenever possible edit your response. Don't repost a
>200 line message from  the Nationalist Alliance when you're just
>adding 2 lines of insults.

If I was a multiracialist I would do the same!  Our arguments are
cogent.  It indeed is not in the best interest of multiracialists to
let our argument be heard!!

>If possible, put your response at the top of the reply rather than the
>bottom.  If someone  reads part of a message, they should read what
>you wrote and not the the words of the Nationalist Alliance.

This would be a good idea but most people instinctively scroll down to
see what was being responded to!   Nice try, Shelly!

>Delete any Nationalist Alliance websites from your response. 

That's OK.    Most people can read our website from almost any NA post
anyway!!

>>To me it is unmistakable that Sheldon Sheps is a Jew!  He acts
>>typically like a Jew.  He has convenient, brazen double standards like
>>a Jews.  His name is "Sheldon Sheps", and he is versed in legal
>>sophistry!  I guess the Jews are enforcing the P.C. line in the
>>militias now, eh?  Making sure the militia stays away from "excessive
>>nationalism"  and doesn't "stray" outside acceptable kosher
>>boundaries!   

>Applying Rule #2, I respond:

>"Brian Smith" doesn't care whether I'm Jewish, Buddhist, a member of
>the Airport Fellowship church of Toronto or any other religious or
>social group you can name.  He'll call anyone whatever names and use
>whatever insults he can to get a reaction.  The preceding paragraph is
>designed to further disrupt this newsgroup and get it away from the
>concerns it discussed, however poorly, before the Nationalist Alliance
>arrived.

Actually, no.  I fully responded to the merits of your post before and
the paragraph referred is attached at the end as an afterthought.  The
goal of NA is not disrupt ANYTHING but to present ideas and
discussion.  

________________________________________________________
Notice "Shelly" did not deny he was a Jew!
________________________________________________________

>No sale.

>Any one who still thinks that Brian Smith is interested in the topics
>of concern should take a second look at his responses above. You won't
>find any indication that the Nationalist Alliance is even slightly
>interested in the topics of concern to this newsgroup.

Well, actually you're pulling ONE PARAGRAPH out of my whole post to
try to make a lopsided case that I am "not interested in topics of
concern."  I've posted dozen of posts on topics relevant to the
militia, as explained above.

>Here's my October 24th Post on the technical issues of banning.

>-------------------------------------
>October 24, 1996.

>This posting should be considered an addition to the posting where I
>called for the banning of off-topic hatemongers.

>There are a couple more I'd like banned, for the same reasons stated
>in the main posting.

> Bob
>GEQR17C@prodigy.com (Leo Walsh)

This guy is real topic cop, ain't he?

It doesn't matter; we can come on as different ID's if we want to,
"Shelly."   So much for your censorship crusade.  If you don't like
our messages, then just ignore them.  Mind your own business.  You
ever think about getting a job with yours at the Jewish Simon
Weisenthal Center?  They want to ban "undesirable" views too!  And
they may be hiring!

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"My name's Sheldon.  My relatives in New York call me "Shelly."  These
NA people just ain't kosher; far from it.  Time to pull the plug on
their posts to make sure the militias STAY kosher!!"



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Subject: "Little man" Mike Vanderboegh:  A COWARD AND A WEAKLING
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I received the following ominous message in my mailbox from one "Mike
Vanderboegh:

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Posted-Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:38:24 -0500
Reply-To: mo10cav@aol.com (Mo10Cav)
To: sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
Subject: Re: Arlin Isuues Physical Threats.

Brianazi sez: "Guess you'll have to try something else!"

Sounds good to me.

-- Mike Vanderboegh, 1 ACR.

--------------------end----------------------------------

Evidently, Mike Vanderboegh is e-mailing people with various threats
of different kinds, from reporting them to FBI to threatening them
with death, to other things.

Let me have a word with you, "Mike."

Listen you gutless turd.  You ARE A COWARD.   Do you understand that?
A COWARD.   What kind of a little man hides behind his computer screen
and mails death-threats to other people?  You're not a man:  you're a
MOUSE!  That's right.  A poltroon, a miscreant, a reprobate, a
blackguard, a weakling:  a COWARD.

I have NOTHING against militia.   My problem is with you.  If you want
some of me Mike, I'll take you on WITHOUT WEAPONS you GUTLESS COWARD.
You obviously have to make up for your inner sense of INADEQUACY by
mailing people death-threats?   Some "man".  You probably think having
a gun MAKES you a man.   You fundamental WEAKLING.

You think I'm scared of you, Mike?  Let me tell you something:  I
LAUGH AT YOU, little man.  That's right.  LAUGHING.   Keep on
e-mailing me COWARD.  I'm laughing at you, little man, do you
understand me?  You piece of race-traitoring GARBAGE.  

{SPIT}

Brian Smith




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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:


>In article <846798505$16113@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>> Racial diversity is
>>both a threat to the existence of Whites and causes ethnic war.

>yet another unsubstantiated claim from the brianazi...when will these
>little netnazis ever learn?

Once again, the obvious has to be spelled out to Arleen:

Exploding non-White birthrates PLUS negative White birthrate EQUALS
the Non-existence of Whites!

And If you don't see racial diversity as the cause of ethnic war, you
should live in Miami or L.A. and observe the race relations between
say, Cubans and Blacks, or Blacks and Koreans.  Like I said Arleen,
the only things holding the zoo together is the White man's law
enforcement!!!

Brian Smith
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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:


>In article <846730986$12205@atype.com>, hmurdock 
>writes:

>>The Mexican invasion of our Southwest.  Just why does our government
>refuse
>>to take any action to stop it?  

>prove that they are taking no action, murdnazi...this should be amusing...

You must be denser that I thought Arleen!!

You don't think the government, if it wanted to, could halt the
hundreds of thousands of Mexican flooding into America every year?  

You haven't figured out that the U.S. government doesn't stop the
invasion because the U.S. government doesn't WANT the invasion
stopped!!

Brian Smith
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pgissource@aol.com (PGISSource) wrote:

>In article <846843484$19817@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>>So tell me, how many of the people in your group are blonde, blue-eyed
>>>aryans. And will the ones that are not be eliminated?
>>
>>This is inaccurate.  There are Whites of EVERY White sub-ethnicity in
>>the ALLIANCE:  Nordics, Mediterraneans, Alpines, Dinarics, and
>>Baltics.  The National Alliance is a Pan-Aryan organization.  It
>>stands for those of European descent WHEREVER they may be found!

>you didn't answer the question, Brian, anymore than you have dealt with
>the issue of your commie systems and the likelihood that your little group
>would in fact, like most commie uprisings, seize weapons from the citizens
>after your dream revolution is over.

Like I said, Wizard of Communism, if you can't figure out the
difference between Communism (i.e., your Marxist egalitarianism) and
White Nationalism, I'm afraid there exists no cure for willful
ignorance yet!!

>Address the facts of your movement and your intensely foreign allegiances,
>eh, Brian? Folks here would like to know more about those aspects.

Communist Wizard, what on EARTH are you gibbering about now!!

Brian Smith
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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:

>>Well, I guess in your mind a racial renegade is a normal person, while a 
>>person who has any sense of racial loyalty at all is abnormal.

>BINGO!  On the nose!

Arlin, it's amazing how WELL you have managed to get things COMPLETELY
backwards!

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"The name's Arlin.  Anybody who wants a non-White America is a
patriot.    But anybody who wants to save the race of Jefferson and
George Washington from eradication is abnormal.  By they way, did I
ever tell you I'm in favor of preserving the Constitution!"



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pkasieck@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Philip Kasiecki) wrote:

>In article <846796701$16035@atype.com>,
>Brian Smith (sbrian@micron.net) wrote:

>: If you can say I'm not White than I can you're not a human being.

>    No you can't.

Sure, why not?  I could say you're a member of the general class of
living things, in which there is no significant difference between you
and a horse.  And you couldn't disprove me at all.

>: Distinction is created by the beholder based on differences the
>: BEHOLDER finds SIGNIFICANT.  You can doubt race exists, it matters not
>: to me:   the differences to you are insignificant and there is no need
>: for the distinction.  

>    No, it's not even that; it's just that the distinctions being made
>are wrong.  People are different, but they can't be grouped into simple
>little categories.

You think that breeds of dogs can be grouped into categories but yet
something so obvious as "RACE" should NOT be classified?

>: However, there exists MORE than enough data for one to adhere to the
>: construct of race if he so chooses!  Skin color ALONE would be
>: sufficient to do so.  However, we know there are FAR more differences
>: between the race than mere skin color!  That is just the beginning!!!

>    Bullshit.  That statement alone is racist.  Skin color is what is
>used to differentiate between people, in general.

There are differences between the races in intelligence, inventive
talent, physiology, organs, bone structure, facial and skull
structure, behavior, culture, disease immunity and others.  

But even if these differences did not exist, people naturally identify
with others according to appearance.  People generally wish to be
among those most similar to them.   The races would STILL be divided
if even SKIN COLOR was the only difference!  That is natural instinct.

>: Nope.  Diversity within the same race is acceptable to me.
>: Multiracial diversity, however, is NOT acceptable to me.  The things 
>: I value can survive with INTRA-racial diversity.    However,
>: multiracialism would DESTROY those things!

>: BIG difference!!

>    You still evaded the point; you contradicted yourself.  And perhaps
>you can tell me how multiculturalism destroys things you value,
>especially knowing that the American culture is composed of a mixture of
>cultures around the world, though it is dominated by European cultures. 
>You may not realize it, but there are probably aspects of non-European
>culture that you enjoy and celebrate.

I value a progressive White culture, which requires homogeny to reach
its potentials.  Multiracialism has been all but destroyed White
culture.  

I value and love my race.  Yet my race is being destroyed by
multiracialism.  Multiracialism disrupts the natural habitat, culture,
values, and norms of Whites, and is premised on a hatred for their
culture, their history, and their values.   It places Whites in close
proximity with faster-breeding non-Whites which will engulf them.  The
birthrate of Whites is negative.   

I value White national community which is essential to White health,
but is impossible under multiracialism.  I value progress towards
evolutionary heights; multiracialism mixes Whites with races lacking
their talents, and breeds Whites out of existence and replaces them
with a mixed-up mud race incapable of maintaining the same values and
level of advancement.  

I value White beauty which race-mixing eradicates.  I value clean and
safe towns, which existed in White society but is impossible under
Black and Brown-invaded society.   I value the survival and upward
advancement of the White race:  a thing prevented and made impossible
by multiracialism.

Multiracialism destroy EVERYTHING I value!  

Brian Smith
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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:


>In article <846843484$19817@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>The U.S. Army succeeded because it was a predominantly White army.
>>Had the U.S. Army been a predominantly BLACK army, the outcome would
>>have been MUCH different!

>GONG! brianazi once again demonstrates a total lack of any conceptual
>knowledge of the history of WW II...historical example you might want to
>look at brianazi - a Battle at a place called 'Monte Casino' in Italy.  In
>order to get the full impact from your study, however, you will need to
>read about the 443rd Regimental Combat Team (which was entirely
>Japanese-American) and the Tuskegee Fliers (who were Black).

Your liberal sentimentality is as quaint as it is preposterous.   Had
the U.S. Army been predominantly Black, the army would have suffered
what ALL Black armies suffer from without fail in modern war:
attrition!   Black solidiers had the highest attrition rates of any
soldier in ALL wars!!   

The Black U.S. Army would have probably never even been able to make
it ASHORE!!   The Germans would have made MINCEMEAT out of a Black
Army!!!   LOL!   Nowhere in history is there any example of a Black
nation defeating a White one!!  Even in the Zulu War, the White man
destroyed the Zulu army with a FRACTION of their numbers because of
will, nerves of steel, and technology Africans to this DAY cannot
develop!  Talk to an honest (but safely retired!!) White officer or
general who knows about attrition rates by race!  He'll tell you!  

Even the skittish Italian army subdued the Ethiopians without even the
slightest opposition!!  

I bet you liberals would LOVE to cite an example of a Black nation
defeating a White nation war!  Too bad, you can't.  Oh well, I guess
you'll have to make ONE UP!!  Most liberals are not averse to such
lying!

Brian Smith
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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:

>>juggler@interlog.com (sheldon sheps) wrote:

>>>1. The Nationalist Alliance postings in this newsgroup are organized.
>>
>>Where did I EVER say that? 

>LOL! it's selfevident that you're all posting from copies of the same
>database!  You don't have enough sense to even attempt to disguise the
>effort.

The National Alliance database is accessed by MANY different White
nationalists.   They are members of W.A.R and several Christian
Identity groups as well who find our "database" interesting and
useful, especially the _WHO RULES AMERICA?_ documentation of the
Jewish controlled media.  It is also accessed by conservatives and
liberals alike for the same reasons.  

>> There are several different kinds of White
>>nationalists on this newsgroup other than NA people, with several
>>varying beliefs on how we should solve the racial problem.

>GONG!  when attacked ALL of you little netnazis have fallen back on
>notional appliance references - face it little brianazi, you kids just
>aren't bright enough to be able to carry off the 'independent' act...

Well, obviously Arlin, when a controversy begins or threads pop up
about White nationalism, sympathetic people tend to get involved.  I
do not know who "Leo Walsh" is or "rdwsn" is.   As far as I know, they
are militia who are racially loyal.   Who is "Cutter"?  He is not NA.
Heimdall.access is not NA.   By the way, the Nizkor people also showed
up at once.  Did YOU e-mail them to all show up here?  I wouldn't be
surprised if you did that, Arlin.  Calling in your Nizkor buddies,
like Ken McVay I see?

Brian Smith
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pgissource@aol.com (PGISSource) wrote:

>   (Inter) NATIONAL ALLIANCE = GUTLESS COMMIES
>   (Inter) NATIONAL ALLIANCE ONCE AGAIN PROVEN COMMIES
>   (Inter) NATIONAL ALLIANCE OPENLY FAVORS COMMIE ECONOMICS!

The Wizard of Communism is trying to conceal his egalitarian-communist
leanings by continually shouting from the top of his lungs, like a
demented windbag, that NA are "commies" as if that will prove
anything.   As is pointed out to him ad infinitum, White Nationalism
REJECTS egalitarianism, is AGAINST gun control, and has NOTHING TO DO
with any workers' revolt.  

Evidently the Wizard of Communism read in one of his Marxist
manifestos that continually repeating disinformation is a good tactic
to use against your enemy.  However, he failed to observe that
disinformation has to be at least partially credible, and must consist
of more than self-contradictory nonsense that any moron with a
dictionary could easily refute.

Brian Smith
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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:

>LOL! Mike I think you just took little brianazi over the edge of fear into
>stark terror...wonder if he had to change his underwear...LOL!

Arlin, it would be tenuous at best to think a White racialist in the
face of the U.S. government at large would yet be "scared" of a
backwoods, toothless yokel who has evidently reconciled Christianity
with scatology.  However, if someone sends me death-threats, I am
going to take them seriously.   If "Backwoods Mike" continues to send
me more death-threats, I will continue to post them and respond to
them in the light of day.   We're all gonna die sometime, Arlin, that
being the ONLY thing for certain!   Dying in defense of my race and
fellow kinsmen would be highest honor.  I will be at least remembered
by the race, if it survives.  But who in the future will remember YOU,
Arleen, except as another disgraceful racial renegade? 

It is all very simple, and is as ancient as the moon, Arlin or Arleen.
I think even YOU can understand it!!

Brian Smith
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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:

>In article <846776894$14306@atype.com>, mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
>writes:

>>This statement sounds like what many Christian Identity followers say:
>>Turn back to God and our problems will be over.

>It never ceases to amaze me how the identity movement seeks to pervert
>Christian imagery at every available opportunity...

>Arlin H. Adams 

It never ceases to amaze me how Christians cling to their
superstitutions to the destruction and death of their own race.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"Mah name's Arlin.  Call me "Arleen."  Ah couldn't give two cashews
whether the White race dies.  I've already got my mansion in the sky,
and that's all that counts!!  HELL Ah'm gonna LIVE FOREVER!!!  Heh
heh!"



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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 96 19:48:03 GMT
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Subject: Re: LET THE ANTI-NAZI WAR BEGIN!!!!!!!
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sybesma@netcom.com (Steven D. Sybesma) wrote:

>My friends,

>What we have going on here is a two-front war.

>On the one hand we have the Nazi pigs like Mr. Smith, Ian McKinney and all the
>rest.

>Then we have shills like Mark Pitcavage and that Dees idiot on the paranoid
>anti-militia side of the war.

>What I'd ask you is:  Why are the two sides any different?

>They both work overtime to make us look bad, just in different ways.

Look bad to WHOM?  See, that is question I keep asking you.  

The media are DETERMINED to paint militias as extremist, dangerous,
and evil -- regardless of whether or not militias are predominantly
non-racist or anti-racist.   The media also will CONTINUE to do this,
regardless of whatever the facts are.  What can you do about this?

Nothing.

The media is a lying propaganda machine which serves a definite and
predictable set of interests.  One can predict with absolute certainty
that militias will continue to be inaccurately generalized by the
media as "White supremacist" IN SPITE OF the fact that militias
usually openly denounce racism.   

They do this because armed White men are the most dangerous enemy to
their interests.  Even the paperbook, the _Silent Brotherhood_, which
I saw in the drugstore with a new cover, says on the front:  "Read
about America's Violent Militia Movement!!"  That is deliberately
lying by the media about the militia as a whole.

You will not succeed in getting the media to portray the truth about
militias no matter WHAT you do.   Nor will you likely succeed in
convincing Mr. Pitcavage that militias are predominantly non-racial or
anti-racist in policy.  If Mr. Pitcavage cannot recognize that by now
>from  the sheer mountain of obvious evidence, the man is either
dishonest, mean, or is a very extraordinary ignoramus.  

However, your hostile responses to White patriots only gives you
opportunity after opportunity to publicly display your opposition,
making your anti-racism crystal clear to the internet public.  This
can only help the militia  "image" as you say, since the media will
always deliberately misrepresent you as "racist" in spite of the
facts.

>I'd say whoever is pulling the strings is very wise to have infiltrated our
>militia to plant the inconspicuous enemies like the Nazi idiots WITHIN while
>on the outside having the hecklers like Mr. Pitcavage and company to point the
>finger at the Nazi idiots and claim they're the militia the public should hate.

>Pretty damn efficient strategy, you have to admit.

Mr. Sybesma, I tell you with complete veracity that I have not
"infiltrated" this newsgroup, as you say, to plant "Nazi agents" or
anything of the sort.  Nor is it my intent to "make you look bad" when
actually, if anything you have made known your anti-racial views, and
I given you the opportunity to trumpet your anti-racism from the
housetops for the benefit of the public.   

Denunciation is the credible evidence of your opposition to my views.
I'm sure all the "FEDS" watching, real or imagined, have noted your
overt denunciations, as well has the lurker.  You may rest assured
your name has been written down in the Holy Book of Anti-Racist
Saints, blameless of any racist perdition.  

>If we don't start intentionally distancing ourselves from the racist idiots in
>this group, we'll not stand a chance of gaining the respect we deserve.

>We can't win any war without moral authority.

>If we can get the moral authority to step on the face of racism and squash 
>it out of this group, it will be the beginning of many a victory for us.

>We have to clean our own backyard before we can start kicking the NWO's butt.

>O.K. TROOPS?

>LET'S HIT IT!!!!!!!

>If it takes bombing the crap out of those idiots e-mail and writing over each
>and every message incessantly until they get sick and tired, then that is what
>we have to do.

>If we can't win this battle, we can't win anything.

I wouldn't be so hard on yourself.  So far this is a low-moderated
forum, impossible for posters to individually censor other posters.
If you don't like a post, why don't you just ignore it?  That would
probably be the best alternative.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:

>In article <846708542$9894@atype.com>, Dave Kuehne 
>writes:
>> Could you please point out where Brian "threatens everyone"?

>LOL!  in the last three weeks brian has threatened a number of different
>Americans, due to their ethnic or religious backgrounds, has stated that
>he does not support equal rights for all persons and thus has provided
>ample evidence to all of the hate and bigotry inherent in his philosophy. 
>It's all there in DejaNews for anyone who wants to go look.

Arlin, I know you're tryin' to be a good commie and all, just like the
Wizard of Communism is, but your misinformation technique evidently
needs some work.  Please post where I've THREATENED anybody, please.
Come on, Arleen, make good on the evidence -- for just once.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



From sbrian@micron.net Fri Nov  1 18:24:19 PST 1996
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Date: Sat, 2 Nov 96 1:18:03 GMT
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Subject: Re: Ken McVay - ADL, SWC, SPLC Agent [What a joke!]
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For the record, when I invited Ken to participate in a panel discussion
on "hate groups on the net," he refused because he didn't want to sit
at a table with a representative of the Wiesenthal Center. Only a
drooling Nazi moron would confuse their positions on free-speech issues.

http://xp9.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=3120493&server=dnserver.db96q3&CONTEXT=846896667.18689&hitnum=1

Search DejaNews for:

 ~a (kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca) & "Sol Littman"

And now, as for the dissociative Kunrtzi:

In article <846842604$19770@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian
Smith), aka kurtstel@micron.net (Kurt Stele), wrote:

>Laura Finsten  wrote:
>
>>Wow, my head reels.  The Jews in charge in Poland were brutalised by
>>the Poles but saved by the Germans?  I had heard a rumour that you
>>are the same person as someone posting Holocaust denial on 
>>alt.revisionism under the name of "Kurt Stele".  Is that you?  Are
>>you just another run of the mill Holocaust denier like "Kurt Stele"?
>
>Let me guess.  This is another Nizkor claim that "you are really so
>and so" just using a different name.  On alt.revisionism the Nizkor
>people claim always every revisionist is really 3 other people, that
>there are really only 2 revisionists posting at any given time.  I've
>seen Kurt Stele on alt.revisionism and a few other places.  You
>usually don't see too many NA on alt.revisionism although the
>newsgroup is folllowed.  Stele isn't NA (as far as I know) but my
>guess is he's sympathetic.

I bet.

Why does he sometimes sign his posts with your name?

You're such an idiot, Brian.

For example,

http://xp9.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=6733831&server=dnserver.db96q4&CONTEXT=846895882.13115&hitnum=0

To see how you get that result, go to www.dejanews.com and plug in the 
query:

 ~a (kurtstel@micron.net) & "Brian Smith"

Brian/Kurt, doesn't Willy Pierce teach you not to lie about things so
easily proven? I mean, this has got to be embarrassing. You were
doing so well talking about how multiple pseuonyms are a valid defense
against the Jews under your bed. Talking to inanimate objects is bad
enough; talking to yourself, as if you were different people, can be
taken as a sign of impending mental collapse.

Have you ever dressed up in your mother's clothing and scolded yourself?
-- 
Perhaps this final act was meant           Rich Graves 
To clinch a lifetime's argument   California Institute of International Studies
That nothing comes from violence                             Remember John Hron
And nothing ever could            http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/h/hron-john


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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 96 9:34:58 GMT
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Subject: "Backwoods" Mike Vanderboegh:  LIAR, HYPOCRITE, INADEQUATE FOOL
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Mike Vanderboegh continues to spread his scatological bilge in yet
more threats.   Here's the latest from this cretinous wanna-be Rambo.
Since I am not so inadequte that I must e-mail threats in private, I
will post both his threat and my reply in public:

--------------------begin------------------------------- 

>Return-Path: 
>From: mo10cav@aol.com
>Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 23:45:32 -0500
>Posted-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 23:45:32 -0500
>Reply-To: mo10cav@aol.com (Mo10Cav)
>To: sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)

>Brianazi calls me names, and is scared to death of non-death threats....

YOU started the name-calling long ago Mike, as you well know, along
with sending death-threats.  You have e-mailed several death-threats
to people.  I offered you the hand of racial brotherhood and you
replied only with death-threats.  

So you think you're a tough guy?  Is that it?   You know what always
happens to "tough guys" Backwoods Mike.   Invariably, they end up
getting their hinds kicked in a big way.  There's always someone
tougher than you think you are, Mike.  Sounds like you've been living
a morbidly sheltered life in Pinson, Alabama a little too long.  

Believe me, Mike:  you're not that tough.  You may THINK you're
tough.   But you're just a man, with the same vital strike zones,
vulnerable organs, frail enamel teeth.   

>Listen, pissant, 

What do you want, you inverted cretin?

>a. You obviously rattle a lot easier than the average pissant.  If you
>should like to meet me for some head-knocking fisticuffs, I be glad to
>oblige, name the time and place mutually agreeable. I tried to get
>satisfaction out of Pitcavage not too long ago, but he was too cowardly to
>accept.  Have you bigger cojones than him?  Be glad to see how much of a
>"coward and weakling" you think I am after I beat the Nazi pus out of you.
> Marquis of Queensbury rules, of course.  

Tonight I was joking about you to Jim C., my sparring partner, in
class.  I told there you who actually had the balls to e-mail me with
death-threats!   We had a good laugh, we did.  

>b. You obviously know less about me than I do about you, for I am not
>"little."

Whatever you say "Backwoods Mike."   You evidently have little honor
or integrity as you mail scatological death-threats to people
continuously.  You're indeed quite a low form of life.  My own militia
friends have all denounced your behavior.   They said some state
militias have a lot of backwards, "toothless" people who are plainly,
just nuts!

>c. YOU represent the terrorists, Nazi.  

You represent the know-nothing backwoods fool, the race-traitor.

>It is your fuhrer and friends who
>have engaged in mass murder last year (and plan to engage in more), not me
>and my friends.  If anybody does decide to engage in the justifiable
>self-defense against you murderers, especially if you make another
>terrorist move according to your Turner-Diaries-cesspool-plan, who could
>blame them.

You are a liar, Mike.  The lowest kind, too.  You have no proof, and I
could just as well say YOU helped Tim McVeigh, as Tim was a militia
member, not a NA member.   You are a liar, Mike.  How does it feel?
How did it feel when you helped Timothy McVeigh make that truck bomb,
Mike?

>d.  Statements of what will happen in the future if certain conditions are
>fulfilled may be interpreted as death threats by the criminals (such as
>yourself and your bosses) who seek to make those conditions (civil war,
>mass murder, terrorism) happen.  I suppose it is a death threat in the
>same sense as warning a would-be two-time murderer that if he does it
>again he will suffer the death penalty.

And if you carry out your intent of murdering us so-called "Nazis" you
will be met with the very same, my traitorous and lost racial brother.


>e.  If Tom Metzger and his bunch of foreskinhead losers don't scare me
>(and my mailbox has been full of nazi threats in the past) then Willie
>Pierce and his juvenilia oral-diarrhea battalion sure as hell don't.

You evidently flatter yourself into thinking we are interested in you
in some way.   LOL!  You are insignificant, Mike.  Even as much as
that disappoints you.  You try to make yourself more important by
mailing death-threats to people, evidently trying your hardest to BE
somebody.  The sad thing is:  you know what Mike?  You're a NOBODY.  A
backwoods, insignificant, inadequate fool, without integrity or honor.
A NOBODY?  How does that feel, Mike from Pinson Alabama?

>f.  I didn't adopt a murderous philosophy on my own and drop in uninvited
>to spread it around where I wasn't welcome-- you did.  If you identify
>yourself with murderers and a murderous philosophy, why are you surprised
>when normal people take you seriously and say, "Hey, this jerk is a
>wannabe killer, let's make sure he knows the consequences"?

You're full of lies and crap.  Our philosophy is not murderous:  it is
a philosophy for the LIFE and survival of the White race.  If they let
our people survive as a separate people, then no conflict whatsoever
is needed.  

Obviously, any normal, sane person who wants White separation wants it
to occur by the most peaceful means possible.  However, you seem to be
trying to make a name for yourself as the "executioner" of White
patriots.  Obviously, you have some profound and deep-seated
INADEQUACY.   I feel sorry, Mike.  Who knows WHAT you've been through
in your life.  You're probably just another backwoods nut, only with
scatological fixations.  At any rate, you're a fool and a liar.

>g.  Truth be told, you reacted the way you did with the bluster of a
>coward because you are one.  Make me a liar, and give me a date and time I
>can meet you, punk.   Name the town, nazipuke.  I live in Pinson, Alabama.
> I've never made any secret of where  live.  Indeed, whuppin' on Nazis
>is somethin' I haven't done in a while.  I'm looking forward to it.

Tell you what Mike.  Since I don't give out private information over
the airwaves why don't  you go ahead and give me your full address and
phone number, along with directions, and I'll see what I can do for
you OK?  

Also, since you want to "whup" on "Nazis" I have know some people in
town who said they'd be interested in meeting you too.  One of them
may be heading through Alabama this Spring with some of my buddies.
Charlie's among them.  You'll love Charlie!  This guy's bald, crew
cut, so you can't pull any hair.  He cut his hair off 2 years ago for
that reason.  He's got that thick forehead to die for (only a figure
of speech, Mike).  

And Frank!  The man puts up "four wheels" regularly.   Know what that
means, Mike?  That means he bench-presses over 400 pounds.  (I only
put up three on my best lift).   Martin puts up three and a half.  I
don't think you'd like Frank very much either because he has a
prominent (but tasteful) "White Pride!" tattoo on his stomach.  Now
Frank's a good man!  

They say people fight 10 times harder when they are told their family
or race is in danger.   I told them there was this guy who wanted to
wipe out White patriots, the only people now standing between White
families and total destruction.  Not happy at all, Mike!  

By the way, I noticed you call yourself a Christian?  What kind of
laughable Christianity do you ascribe to?  Some sort of backwoods
mumbo-jumbo, in which God told you to e-mail scatalogical death
threats?  You're one confused cookie, Mike!   Do you think JESUS
approves of your e-mailing or your language, Mike?  Have at least some
respect for your religion if you have no respect for yourself, my man!

SKOAL!

Brian Smith
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From sbrian@micron.net Sat Nov  2 10:19:59 PST 1996
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hvlcrt@axess.com (H.V) wrote:

>In article <559lal$a5e@is05.micron.net>, sbrian@micron.net says...
>>
>>As far as the Romans were concerned, they went the road of
>>multiracialism and went straight downhill, as one would expect.  They
>>were invaded by Germanic and civilization was rebuilt.  
>>

>Oh really? I thought the germanic Invasions were the start of the DARK 
>ages ! During that time the arts and litteracy were almost unheard of, 
>except in monasteries..Charlemagne himself barely knew how to read !
>Civilization came back to Europe through trade and CONTACT with the 
>islamic world, who themselves had had contact with the previous 
>hellenistic world. Do you really call the Europe of the 8th century a 
>civilized place ? compared the the Roman Empire ?
>You're a joke.

What put Europe in a "Dark Age" was the rise and proliferation of
Christianity.  Either way, when you are referring to the Roman Empire
you are still referring to civilization built predominantly by Nordics
and semi-Nordics.   Eventually the civilizations these White men built
were over-run by non-Whites because the Roman Empire foolishly adopted
multiracialism.  The Empire decayed.  The Germanics were hired as
elite bodyguards and soldiers.  

When the Germanic tribes invaded they gave the decaying Roman Empire a
huge infusion of Nordic blood again.   Rome was far the better for it.
There are very few indispensable contributions made by Islamics to the
Western world.  Even the problems of calculus and alegebra were
developed by Archimedes and the ancient Greeks (who were Nordics, as
shown by their scultures).  Arabic translations of Archimedes did come
in handy, however, after the originals had been destroyed.

>>As far as the Germans in WWII go, they were overwhelmed numerically by
>>Russians and Americans, even though they were superior
>>technologically. 

>I guess the germans were the ones who invented radar ? right ??

The basic concepts of radar are based on the laws of radio-wave
reflection, which are inherent in the equations governing the behavior
of electromagnetic waves developed by the British physicist James
Clerk Maxwell in 1864. These principles were first demonstrated in
1886 in experiments by the German physicist Heinrich Hertz. The German
engineer Christian Hülsmeyer was the first to propose the use of radio
echoes in a detecting device designed to avoid collisions in marine
navigation. A similar device was suggested in 1922 by the Italian
inventor Guglielmo Marconi.

Once again, it is the White race which pioneered and invented the
advanced technology we possess today, which most non-Whites then
adopted or copied (except Africans).  

Brian Smith
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From sbrian@micron.net Sat Nov  2 10:20:00 PST 1996
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kill@today's.mil (187 david) wrote:

>> > 1. The Holocaust Memorial, to which I suppose you refer, is a memorial to
>> > promote awareness of the risks of racial hatred for the benefit of all.

>The Holocaust memorial is a selfish attempt to get the world to sympathize
>for their destruction.   The main piont of the Holocaust Memorial is to
>make the world feel guilty for allowing it to happen.  The Jews don't care
>for anyone but themselves.  The only awareness the memorial promotes is
>the awakening of the Jews to a world of hatred.

>When they say "never again," they mean no more killing of Jews.  They
>endorse the genocides of the Cambodians, Tibetans, Rwandans, Bosnians,
>etc, etc; for this will enable them to easily take over the world.  THe
>Jewish media only criticizes nations for their reluctance to act, but what
>are Jews doing about it?  Nothing, just like everyone else.

>The only reason the Holocaust is considered bad is because the Jewish
>media has brainwashed us to think this way.

YES!

Brian Smith
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From sbrian@micron.net Sat Nov  2 10:20:01 PST 1996
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kate@accessone.com (Kathleen Mulhern) wrote:

>Stop lying.  It's getting so old.

It's true.  The Holocaust Lie IS getting OLD!!!

For the exposure of this UNBELIEVABLE hoax, please see!:

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
http://www.codoh.com/
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
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Brian Smith
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jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:

>But it is false. The Holocaust Memorial is not restricted to Jews in any way 
>shape or form. Tickets are available to anyone. And all sorts of people go 
>there, for all sorts of reasons. The contents are not exclusive, either. The 
>people who died in the Holocaust are all represented, regardless of race, 
>religion or nationality. It is INclusive, just like the Lincoln Memorial, the 
>Smithsonian Museum, and and the memorial to the Wright Brothers at Kitty Hawk. 
>It reminds us all of history. It helps us remember.

It is obvious the Holocaust is presented as a JEWISH affair.  No other
group allegedly involved agitates for more money like the Jews do.
The Jews receive the greatest benefits from non-stop Jewish Holocaust
propaganda.  Ask anyone:  the Holocaust has been associated first and
foremost with Jewry.   To make matters worse, the Holocaust is a LIE!:

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
http://www.codoh.com/
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http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
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Brian Smith
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reverend@iinet.net.au (AgamemnoN) wrote:

>You've got to remember Brian that the Zionists and Adolph Eichmann
>were once best of friends. The Zionists rubbed their hands with glee
>when the NUREMBERG LAWS were passed. The more jews that fled Germany
>to Palestine enabled them to prop up their numbers. Eventually they
>outnumbered the Arabs to the point that they can massacre them at
>will.

>No wonder they were so keen to murder Eichmann so he couldn't point
>the finger at his former Zionist allies!!! 

Actually, the Jews struck a deal with Hitler that Jews emigrating from
Germany were to go to Palestine.   From 1949 - 1939 Hitler allowed
Jews to emigrate with their wealth to Palestine and Germany
contributed sizable contribution to the program whose goal was to help
settle Jews there.  Germany aided Jews in this endeavor even DESPITE
that Jews had declared war on Germany in 1933 and that Jews were
trying to wreck the German economy through an international Jewish
boycott.  

This completely contradicts any claim that Hitler was trying to
exterminate Jews.  He helped them emigrate to Palestine in large
numbers.  Of course, Jews responded to Germany's aid with their
classic response:  stabbing them in the back.

Brian Smith
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mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney) wrote:

>In message <846873184$22310@atype.com> - sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) writes
>:
>:>The Black U.S. Army would have probably never even been able to make
>:>it ASHORE!!   The Germans would have made MINCEMEAT out of a Black
>:>Army!!!   LOL!   Nowhere in history is there any example of a Black
>:>nation defeating a White one!!  Even in the Zulu War, the White man
>:>destroyed the Zulu army with a FRACTION of their numbers because of
>:>will, nerves of steel, and technology Africans to this DAY cannot
>:>develop!  Talk to an honest (but safely retired!!) White officer or
>:>general who knows about attrition rates by race!  He'll tell you!  

>I remember reading that any time the Germans discovered a Black unit 
>defending a battleline, they attacked it, since they knew it was the weak 
>link. In many cases the Black troops threw down their weapons and ran. 
>American Generals complained about this. One general complained that if a 
>unit was more than 20% Black, it was essentially worthless.

Haw haw haw!!  Some "GREAT" Black warriors, eh?  Haw haw haw!!

Black revisionism is one of the more amusing and preposterous
creations of contemporary liberalism, no?

Brian Smith
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:

>Hoffman found that somewhat embarrassing. On top of his other
>delightful qualities, he pimps for "Christian" Identity.

Ken, despite whatever weird stuff Christian Identity followers
believe, Hoffman pimping for Christian Identity can't POSSIBLY be as
bad as you pimping for the Holocaust Hoax!  You've got the the Pimp of
the Year award wrapped up, Ken!

Congrats,

Brian Smith
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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:

>In article <846897483$2088@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>Only a
>>drooling Nazi moron would confuse their positions on free-speech issues.

>why, brianazi, I didn't realize you little netnazis had such an accurate
>picture of yourselves! 

>Arlin H. Adams

I see you're now MAKING UP QUOTES I never wrote and attributing them
to me!   A keyboard does present strong temptations for little boys
(or girls!).

That's a new low Arlin, even for you!!  

Brian Smith
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daddison@lville.mindspring.com (Don Addison) wrote:

>Impressive so what your saying is that you body is strong so what
>about your spirituality?

Many in the National Alliance possess a spiritual outlook both
regarding the Struggle and for life in general.  Many of us hold it is
man's purpose to usher a higher form of man, to aid Evolution in its
task of creating and furthering man up the evolutionary path.   Our
race, our people, is our immortality, and figuratively speaking, a man
lives on forever through his race.  

>Your mistake was insulting my religion,being pagan I am well aware of
>what could happen to me if I were to pray for ssomething bad to happen
>to you.  We all pay a price for our actions. Did you know our Rede
>states AND IT HARM NONE DO AS THOU WILT.

Whatever.  You can pray all you want.  I don't believe in your
religion or your superstitions.  You can make a voodoo doll of me and
poke holes in it for all I care.   Point out where you claimed I
"insulted" your religion -- whatever religion it is you have, I as yet
still have no idea.   I happen to disagree.  My pointing out that
European paganism would have been eradicated from multiracialism is an
accurate statement, and one I see nothing insulting in.

Brian Smith
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pgissource@aol.com (PGISSource) wrote:

>Mr. Wizard
>Egalitarian like the Constitution and proud of it.

The Wizard of Communism is PROUD of his Marxist egalitarianism and the
subverting of a document whose writers obviously NEVER wanted that
result!!

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"Jefferson's vision of the future America--after the hypothetical
abolition of slavery by the slaveowners themselves--is a lily-white
one. All the ex-slaves are to be deported to Africa. In the meantime,
free blacks have to be eliminated from Virginia. Jefferson's proposals
for their elimination were too draconian to be stomached even by his
fellow slaveowners (above, chapter 7). His proposed (and rejected)
amendments to the Virginian legal code included a recommendation for
the penalization of what Virginian slaveowners called
"miscegenation": by which they always mean sexual intercourse between
black men and white women, never between white men and black women, an
event of frequent but unmentionable occurrence. 

"Jefferson made provision for the case of a white woman who might bear
a mulatto child. Both the mother and her child were to leave Virginia,
immediately after the birth. In the event of their failure to do so,
mother and child were declared to be "beyond the protection of the
law." In the circumstances, that proposition was a license for
lynching: for the physical destruction of mother and child by any
Virginian who might care to do the job. Volunteers would not be
lacking." 

The Long Affair: Thomas Jefferson and the French Revolution, 1785-1800
Conor Cruise O'Brien Cloth, 384 pages, pp. 301-25




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sybesma@netcom.com (Steven D. Sybesma) wrote:

>On Thu, 31 Oct 96 21:48:04 GMT Brian Smith [sbrian@micron.net] wrote:

>: I agree there is no doubt that when the day comes, both White
>: racialists and many a-racialists will be fighting the same enemy, this
>: monstrosity called the System, and many of us will be working with
>: each other.

>WRONG!!!!!!!

>You're a real dreamer I have to admit.

>You hate other races, then on the other hand you'll fight alongside them.

Number One, I do not "Hate races."  I love my OWN race and respect
others' love for theirs.   You obviously misunderstood my point.  I
was referring to working with White a-racialists, and I know several
who HATE the System.  However, the NA is on good terms with Black
nationalists as well who agree with the NA that racial separation is
the ONLY solution to the race problem.  Undoubtedly, Black
nationalists will be working with White nationalists to achieve the
goal of racial separation.

>Can't have it both ways idiot.

See above.

>Most in the militia would not share the same camp with you, let alone the same
>foxhole.  I for one would file a bloody protest if it were even considered.

That is fine, Mr. Sybesma.   One can't please everybody.

Brian Smith
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Richard Kann  wrote:

>And you Brianazi? Do you like white boys too. I understand Hitler liked
>them white boys.

You'd believe ANYTHING the controlled media told you about Hitler.  If
they told you Hitler bit the heads off of dead chickens, you would lap
it right up like a good goy.  

As for myself, I am a heterosexual.   I find homosexuality an abnormal
and disgusting death-style.

Why, are you propositioning me?  No thanks!

Brian Smith
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Kaa Byington  wrote:

>Just curious, Brian.  In Hitler's Germany, anybody who had 16th "Jewish 
>blood" went to the ovens.  My kids have one Jewish great grandfather, 
>interestingly enough, probably the most distinguised ancestor they've 
>got.  However, they've never been in a synagogue in their lives, were 
>educated in Catholic schools, and do not think of themselves as Jewish. 
>Their school, however, had Jewish kids in it, and they are still close 
>friends.  (For the militia: one of the Jewish kids that went there, 
>long before mine, was Dianne Feinstein.)  

The Holocaust is a Lie.  Extermination by gassing never occurred.  The
crematoria was used as crematoria for dead people, just as designed.
The insecticide Zyklon B was used as an insecticide, just as
manufactured.  

The Holocaust ask you to believe in a series of irregular uses for
prosaic, sanitational devices, like crematoria and delousing fumigant,
without ANY proof whatsoever for these claims.  The entire Holocaust
Lie was created by anti-German war propaganda and presented against
the Germans as "evidence" at the Nuremberg kangaroo Court.  The
ridiculous claims for which the Germans were hanged, such as the
deaths by electrocution, steaming, and a secret laser device to "zap"
Jews, have all been quietly dropped.   All but a few of these claims
have been abandoned because the evidence against them is overwhelming
and the evidence for them is non-existent.   

For a POINT by POINT refutation of these incredible Hoax known as the
"Holocaust," for which  Jews have extracted huge sums of guilt and
money for from Americans and Europeans, please go to:  

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
http://www.codoh.com/
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
http://www.air-photo.com/
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html

If you dare to challenge your deepest held notion, and go to these
sites, and read them, you will NEVER see the world in the same way
again.  You will never trust the media again.  If you are a man of
honor you will be entrusted to do whatever you can to oppose this
pernicious campaign of lies and deceit.  

>A family friend is a full blooded Blackfeet Indian, from Montana, or at 
>least she was raised on the reservation that way.  However, a few years 
>ago, her mother was on her death bed (or thought she was--she's still 
>alive) and called her childlren to her.  She said she had secret to tell 
>them--their great grandfather was Jewish.  A peddler.  (Like Barry 
>Goldwter's grandfather.) There are lots and lots of Jewish Indians in the 
>west.

>My question is: where do my kids and my Indian friend fit into your 
>ideology?  Hmmmmm?   

Well, those of European descent wish to preserve their gene pool from
further amalgamation.   It is not the destruction of non-Whites White
nationalists seek but the preservation of the White race at all costs
and by any means necessary.  

I don't think there would be many disputes. Those with doubts about 
their own genetic background are unlikely to be attracted to a White
homeland; and even those that do would be in such miniscule numbers
that they could be safely ignored with little harm to the nation. 

>Slavs are the result of Genghis Khan's invasion of Eastern Europe, 
>CEntral Asian "blood" mixed with "caucasian"    Turks are from Central 
>Asia, period, and Armenians are indigenous to the Causcasus, and have 
>been Christian since forever.  Jews are related to none of these.  They 
>are a semitic people, exactly like the Arabs.  

The alleged intermarrying of Asians with Europeans from Genghis Khan
invasion of Eastern Europe has been wildly overstated, so further the
discredit the idea of a "White race."  Khan only got as far as the
Eastern Ukraine and his foothold there lasted from 1222-1227, a mere 5
or 6 years.  

Jews, contrary to popular belief, have NOTHING to do with Palestine or
Arabs.  The vast majority of Jews are Khazarian, an Asiatic from a
province of Russia who converted en masse to Judaism in the 9th
century.  (See Arthur Koestler's _The Thirteenth Tribe_ and do a
websearch on Khazaria).   

> Their
>>behavioral characteristics in every society they have ever inhabited
>>has been the same:  a contempt for the host nation and a chauvanism,
>>along with a formation of a separate "nation within a nation,"
>>exercise of a disproportionate influence on politics, disproportionate
>>wealth, commercialist and materialist values, and a domination of
>>banking. 

>There's a certain truth here, but you've omitted the fact that the Jews 
>tended to put their money to work to the benefit of all.  The New World 
>would never have been discovered, or developed had it not been for Jewish 
>bankers.  However, there's an interesting article in Sunday's New York 
>Times about the Rothschilds, the greatest Jewish banking family, who 
>financed both sides of the Napoleanic wars.  The Rothschilds had a "bad 
>century"--in 1920 they lost their best customer, the Tsar, and by 1980, 
>France had nationalized their biggest bank.  They're reduced to owning 
>vineyards and Club Med.  Not terribly powerful.  Though they are coming 
>back, which seems to be a good thing.  

You forget to add that had there not been Jewish bankers, the
Europeans still could have funded their own expeditions, and WITHOUT
usury!

>  In Europe Jews also dominated the vice industries, such as
>>prostitution and White slave trade. 

>Completely untrue.  

Many popes condemned the Jewish involvement in White slave trade,
which exported White girls to non-White countries.  

>>>>Jews operate as an alien people in foreign lands, and have done so for 
>>>>centuries.  

>Really?  My kids and all those Jewish Indians?  Tell us about it!

Jews have always operated as a separate nation within a nation.

>>>Leaving aside the little matter of Jews who happen to be established pretty
>>>firmly right in the nation where they reside. (AKA, the vast majority)
>>
>>They are ALWAYS established firmly in the nation where they reside!
>>That doesn't alter their allegiance to JEWS first!!

>Really?  If it came to war between Isreal and the US, which side do you 
>think most Americans who were Jewish would take?  Ever read the NY Times, 
>where you see ads with thousands of names attached, attacking Isreal's 
>policies?

If there ever was a war between Israel and U.S, the Jews in America
would overwhelmingly be on the side of Israel.  There are dozens of
Jewish groups who have already protested for the spy Jonathan
Pollard's release and consider him a hero.  You have quite a gullible
view of Jews, Mr. Byington.  I can list all these organizations if you
wish.  

>>Men throughout history, from the Popes to kings, writers and rulers
>>alike, have observed the peculiar and pernicious behavior of Jews.
>>Pick up a copy of _The Jews_ by Hillaire Belloc, or _The International
>>Jew_ by Henry Ford.   It gives the history of the Jews and their
>>relentless drive to dominate and destroy whatever society they
>>inhabit.  Today, Jews dominate the media.  They have ALWAYS dominated
>>finance!  

>Yeah, they're good at it.  Because Christians couldn't charge interest on 
>loans.  

They are also "good at it" because of their tightness as a people.

>>The Nazis worked with Jews to relocate them out of Europe.
>>Extermination was not the German goal.  Had it been, there wouldn't
>>have been milllions of "Holocaust survivors" today to collect German
>>reparations.  There certainly would have been none left alive in the
>>camps when they were liberated.
>>
>They worked ot relocate them until they discovered they couldn't, and 
>then they started exterminating them.  There are not millions of 
>survivors.  I'm sure that somewhere on the net there is data on how much 
>money Germany has paid to what survivors. 

That's crap.  The Germans had several places to relocate Jews and did
so throughout the War.  The Germans aided Jews in their emigration to
Palestine before the war.   The Germans set up labor camps in the
occupied territories because it needed laborers for the war effort.
You do not kill those on whom you depend on for labor.  The Red Cross
investigated the camps and found excellent conditions on several
occasions.  Himmler ordered the camps to preserve lives at all costs!!
The Holocaust is an amazing hoax.  Its inaccuracies and absurdities
are vast.  

Why ship Jews across vast stretches of land to work them a few weeks?
This is completely inefficient.  A simple bullet can take care of
everything.  Cheap.  Effective.  Had the Nazis wanted to kill the Jews
they would have done so.   However, extermination was not their
intent.  There has NEVER been a document found which ordered
extermination.  Yet they are scores of documents by Germans to provide
sanitation, food, and hospitals (why have HOSPITALS if you are trying
to kill Jews?)  The theory is absolutely preposterous.   For a
thorough debunking of this infamous hoax:

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
http://www.codoh.com/
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
http://www.air-photo.com/
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html

>Well, first you have to believe in the NWO-ZOG, and most people don't. 
>The answer to your question about what "they" hope to gain is: Beats me..

The Jews and the New World Order hope to gain:

1)   Total control, power in itself

2)   The Jews get to eliminate a race of people, Whites, whose
nationalism has always endangered them;

3)    The White race is "merged" into the other races, creating a new
mulatto people in which there is no racism and peace and equality for
all.

The notion there can be "peace" and "equality" is a hoax in itself, as
every society is hierarchically organized with great disparities
between haves and have-nots.  The "equality" hoax is just bait to
attract White liberals.  The main goal is to dissolve the sovereignty
and existence of White nations and place control of the West under a
New World Order government.  

"The great ideal of Judaism is that the whole world shall be
imbued with Jewish  teachings, and that in a Universal
Brotherhood of Nations  a greater Judaism, in fact  ALL  THE
SEPARATE RACES and RELIGIONS SHALL DISAPPEAR." (Jewish
World, February  9, 1883).

>Has it ever occurred to you that we live in a world in which 
>communication is now instantaneous?  An international world, where 
>borders are blurred, where you can be in far off Xanadu in twelve hours, 
>and talk to people there via e-mail in seconds?  In fact, the internet, 
>this very thing that you are using now, is globalizing all of us.  Is it 
>Jewish?  If so, you'd better get off.

Globalization is not a natural process.   It would not have happened
in the absence of Jewish international money power and media influence
to bring about the non-White invasion.   Jews, specifically the
ominipotent Jewish media, are in the forefront of the movement to
darken and subvert America.  Jews have ALWAYS been in the vanguard of
subversion, revolution, and overthrow, whether it be the French
Revolution, the Communist revolutions in several countries all over
Europe and Russia, or in South Africa.  

>YOu know, it's funny.  I, as a 'white' have never felt any guilt about 
>the Holocaust.  None whatsoever.  I wasn't even alive, then.  I'm smart 
>enough to know what I should feel guilty about--no one can tell me. 

Most Whites are not so discerning.   However, besides instilling
guilt, Holocaust propaganda succeeds in giving Jews a moral carte
blanche to get away with almost any action, either at home or abroad
in the Middle East.  It also insulates them from criticism and
opposition to their action or to the BILLIONS of dollars of FREE AID
given to Israel.  It is a HIGHLY useful weapon in their hefty arsenal.

>>Have you ever compared White birthrates to non-White birthrates?  It
>>doesn't take a GENIUS to figure out what is happening!

>Let's talk about this.  Why are non-white birthrates higher than white 
>ones?  One reason is Ronald Reagan.  (Not Jewish as far as I know.) The 
>Reagan administration withdrew funds for family planning in poor 
>countries where abortion was legal.  The effect of this was that in the 
>decade 1980 - 1990 thirty million unwanted children were born.  Was 
>Reagan Jewish? 

The reason why non-White birthrates are higher than Whites has several
reasons.  Number one, Whites do not have a vital, race-affirming
culture, as it has been savagely destroyed.  White women have been
duped by Jewish feminism to abandon their primary role as child-bearer
and nurturers.  Also, the disruptive presence of non-Whites in White
lands completely destroys the normal mating patterns and habitats of
Whites.   Furthermore, the higher civilized and more intelligence race
will usually produce less children than a lower race.  It is no
suprise that mestizos invading from Mexico have families five times
larger than Whites, who aren't even replenishing their own numbers.

Whites are approaching the brink of extinction because they do no have
control of their destiny as a people.  No people will long survive in
that state.  It is time Whites take back their life as a people, away
>from  the tyrannical New World Order coalition of Jews and White
lackeys.  It's time to take our destiny into our own hands, or be
EXTINGUISHED.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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joe@apk.net (Joseph T. Adams) wrote:

>Your continued miserable attempts to "divide and conquer" will
>continue to fail, owing largely to your own stupidity.

"My attempts to divide and conquer"?  Well, that's news to me, Mr.
Adams!

>Jim aka "Mr. Wizard" is a man of integrity, intelligence, and honor. 
>He has been in this newsgroup a lot longer than you have, and although
>many of us would disagree with some of his opinions, he has earned my
>respect and that of most of the other posters here.  He states his
>positions clearly and politely, and makes every possible effort to
>understand the positions of others and to find whatever common ground
>may exist so that there can be productive discussion, among people of
>good will at least.

Perhaps "Wizard" states his postions clearly and politely when
addressing a fellow egalitarian.  However, it seems you have
studiously ignored that Mr. "Wizard's" responses to White patriots are
far from polite, although no doubt you justify this.  

Mr. Wizard is also meretricious, making the ludicrous and knowingly
false claim that White nationalism is "communism" (!)   With every one
of these ridiculous accusations the "Wizard" only makes himself out to
more and more of a dunce!   As a result, "Wizard" has little
credibility except to his cronies and those who have yet to take
History 101.  

"Wizard" ascribes to the foundation of communism, egalitarianism,
which is why he is "the Wizard of Communism."  If anything, HE and not
White nationalists, is the communist.  There are too many millions of
dead European White nationalists who have died to prove the point that
White nationalism isn't communism.   The educated person knows the
difference.  Mr. Wizard's rantings can dupe only the most ignorant.

>The term "liberal" has been much abused in recent decades, having been
>co-opted by statists, socialists and even fascists.  The word used to
>mean one who believed in liberty, tolerance, open-mindedness, and
>acceptance and appreciation of differences in other people and their
>opinions.  "Mr. Wizard" exemplifies every one of these good qualities.

Except to those with opinions "politically incorrect."  Suddenly, the
"Wizard's" world-reknown "tolerance" ends!

>The fact that he believes in liberty and justice for ALL, and not just
>some, is not something he has ever tried to conceal.  It is a belief
>that is shared by nearly all within the Patriot/Militia movement, and,
>for that matter, nearly all American Citizens.

Then you don't believe in liberty and justice for Whites, the creators
of the American republic, the heirs of George Washington, whose
current lot is only enslavement and genocide as a people.  And this is
of course, "OK" with you.  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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jafo@cheetah.net (Jafo) wrote:

>>kill@today's.mil (187 david) wrote:

>>>When they say "never again," they mean no more killing of Jews.  They
>>>endorse the genocides of the Cambodians, Tibetans, Rwandans, Bosnians,

>Indeed?  You can, of course, prove this...

Sure.   Nowhere does the Holocaust Lie Memorial mention Cambodian,
Tibetans, Rwandans, or Bosnians.

>>>etc, etc; for this will enable them to easily take over the world.  

>Ah, yes.  The great Jewish Conspiracy, often brought up by those
>who've fucked up their own lives, and need a scapegoat.

I guess those Palestinian kids shot in the head by Israeli guns
"fucked up their own life" right?  I guess we can't hold Israelis
responsible for their own actions because "that would be making them a
"scapegoat" under your definition.   

By all means, let's not hold Jews reponsible for their destructive
actions!  That would be "anti-semitic"!!  

>>>The only reason the Holocaust is considered bad is because the Jewish
>>>media has brainwashed us to think this way.

>One of the most asinine statements I've read in a long time.  So it's
>okay by you that several million people were slaughtered?  And if this
>Jewish media of which you write hadn't "brainwashed" us, the Holocaust
>would have been just the wacky escapades of a few good ol' German boys
>who'd ingested a bit too much schnapps?

The Holocaust is the greatest and most amazing HOAX of alt time!
Visit these sites:

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
http://www.codoh.com/
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
http://www.air-photo.com/
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html

>A matched pair of assholes.  Inbreeding is a bad thing, boys; leave
>your sisters alone.  Oh, if only your parents, and their parents, had
>realized that...

Yeah, yeah, blah blah blah...

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:

>I have noticed that you have completely ignored my comments to the effect 
>that, although you deny that the holocaust happened in the past, you would be 
>glad to create one in the future, right?

No.  Believe me, Jim, I don't want any more fake Holocausts in the
future.  I mean my God, haven't the Jews BILKED enough cash off the
stupid goyim already?

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
http://www.codoh.com/
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http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
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>What I don't understand is why you deny that which, prior to coming to power, 
>the Nazis promised to do; that which, while they were doing it, they freely 
>described to the whole world; and that which, while they were doing it, they 
>carefully documented?

That's the problem, Jim.  There IS no document of these preposterous
claims of extermination by gassing:  never has been.  And the Allies
made the most thorough sweep of ALL German documents:  several tons of
documents and found NO document ordering or mentioning extermination
by gassing.   Had such a program existed, SURELY there would have been
documentation for it.   The only "proof" for the Holocaust is
eyewitness testimony presented against captive German prisoners at the
Nuremburg kangaroo court.  

The hoaxsters pick up documents and point to a vague word like
"special action" and without ANY proof of this say "SEE!  SEE!
Special action was CODE WORD for gassing!!" as if that proves
anything.  The hoaxsters try to get around the document gap saying "it
was all a secret, done by word of mouth."  Nothing in the German
government was EVER done by word of mouth.  An elaborate extermination
would have left a HUGE paper trail, but such was never found.

>And I don't understand why, since you obviously hope to "solve" the Jewish 
>question in a similar fashion in the future, you take the trouble to deny that 
>your heroes did so in the past?

The Jewish agenda is TOTALLY incompatible with White survival.  The
Jewish media is enforcing the politically correct multiracial line and
Whites are being engulfed and eradicated by multiracialism.   The only
solution is for Whites to separate if they wish to survive as a
people. 

>Ignoring these questions will simply convince me that I am on target.

I'm sure you are already irreversibly convinced of that, Jim!

Without liberal guilt,

Brian Smith
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"kayes"  wrote:

>And for those out there who hate jews....... why don't you try to live with
>the fact that 6 million of your people were burned to death, like jews do.
>for once, stop envying those with money, and envy those with brains... that
>ofcourse, if your little brain can handle it......

Jews always try to get non-Jews involved in the Holocaust, so non-Jews
will support this great Jewish cash-cow.   

The Holocaust numbers are a huge fake.  Extermination by gassing is a
huge fake:

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
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kate@accessone.com (Kathleen Mulhern) wrote:

>In article <55e7nk$9uo@opera.iinet.net.au>, reverend@iinet.net.au wrote:

>*Take a trip to Palestine and have a look at the blood of the children
>*killed by those who lobbied for the memorial.

>Take a trip to Israel and have a look at the blood of the children
>(Israeli and U.S. children) killed by Palestinian suicide bombers, car
>bombers, etc.  Sorry it doesn't fit with your agenda, but they do it to
>each other.  That portion of land was promised to both the Muslims fleeing
>Turkey (now Palestinians) and Jews looking for their own homeland by
>England during World War I to gain the support of both groups.  After the
>war, England simply left the area and left both groups to fight it out.

Suicide bombers are usually the sign of desperation from being long
persecuted by an oppressive power.   The Israelis treat the
Palestinians like dogs.  Jews claim they are the "light of the world"
and continually browbeat Whites for "oppressing minorities" yet Jews
butcher Arab civilians with impunity, and with our taxdollars.  

The Jewish Talmud teaches that Jews are the superior race and that
non-Jews are contemptible slaves created by God to serve them.
Hypocrisy is not the word.  It is far beyond that.   For the sad truth
about Jewish treatment of Arabs go to:

http://www.flinet.com/~politics/intifada/if-ind.htm

It is time Americans protest the giving of billions their tax-dollars
every year to this brutal, arrogant, and hypocritical little foreign
nation, which protests the Holocaust so vehemently yet looks upon
other peoples literally as sub-human.  

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>Yeah, but they wouldn't have to worry any more about deciding what 
>diversity is "good" and what is "bad", would they.  Give their little
>minds a rest.

It's all quite simple, Laura, as you well know.  However, I have to
commend you that your trying to make "complicated" the difference
between good and bad diversity is a good obfuscation tactic but you'll
just to try just a little harder next time, OK?  

Diversity involving all Whites is good. 

Diversity involving non-Whites is bad.  

Try again.  Ready, set, GO...!!!

Brian Smith
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smaceach@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Scott MacEachern) wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>Like I said, the diversity which strengthens the race and furthers it
>>along its unique evolutionary path is good diversity.  The sort of
>>diversity which destroys the race (i.e., multiracialism) is bad.   

>Ummm, Brian, have you ever seen the figures of the African genetic
>contribution to the 'white' population of the United States. You're
>about 200 years too late.

There is still more than enough persons in America of European descent
to continue the White race.  Doesn't that just burn you up, Scott?
The thought of all those Whites permitted to have their own society,
being able to well advance into the Space Age, leaving your beloved
"advanced" (sic) darkies in Africa (who can't even create or sustain
advance technology) even FURTHER in the dust of the Stone Age!!   Why,
how embarrassing that would be to the hoax of racial equality!   Darn
Scott, where would you ply your voodoo theories then?  

By the way, how's your search going for the "lost" technology advanced
African civilization going?  Still haven't found it?   Well, keep on
looking!!  I'm sure it's out there, SOMEWHERE (snicker).

It must be tough being a liberal witch doctor these days!

Brian Smith
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rajiv_gandhi@bc.sympatico.ca (Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:


>In article <846906500$2641@atype.com>, ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:

>[snip]

>> Okay, so acknowledging that what you would or would not do is your choice,
>> then you have no fundamental problem with the militias' choice to take a
>> more active defense stance, based on our different moral/ethical
>> matrix...am I correct in that, or am I missing something?

>No, I do not and never have had a problem with the right of a militia to
>exist, although I do not necessarily agree with the philosphy or motivation
>which seems to fuel the militia movement, if one could call it that. I
>wholeheartedly recognize that any militia has a right to exists under
>American (and probably Canadian) law, and can continue to exist so long as
>it doesn¹t act in a manner contrary to the law. My initial purpose for
>interjecting my comments in this thread was to understand why somebody
>would deem pacifism sickening.

Pacifism is sickening as it chooses passivity over the will to enforce
and defend one's values from destruction.  It is the equivalent of
seeing your wife being raped but yet you won't stop the rape if
intervention would involve violence.  Such a view is indeed sickening.


I reject it wholly.

Brian Smith
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smaceach@polar.bowdoin.edu wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>> The reason:  peoples instinctively want their own kind
>> and identify their own kind by appearance.

>But I _like_ girls. A lot. I also have a lot of friends who are
>Africans. So why is one sort of diversity the foundation of
>the human race and another sort to be avoided at all costs?

Like I said, the diversity which strengthens the race and furthers it
along its unique evolutionary path is good diversity.  The sort of
diversity which destroys the race (i.e., multiracialism) is bad.   

Ergo, for White boys to like White girls is good diversity.

Brian Smith
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maceach@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Scott MacEachern) wrote:


>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>Many in the National Alliance possess a spiritual outlook both
>>regarding the Struggle and for life in general.  Many of us hold it is
>>man's purpose to usher a higher form of man, to aid Evolution in its
>>task of creating and furthering man up the evolutionary path.   

>And

>>Charlie's among them.  You'll love Charlie!  This guy's bald, crew
>>cut, so you can't pull any hair.  He cut his hair off 2 years ago for
>>that reason.  He's got that thick forehead to die for (only a figure
>>of speech, Mike).  

>And

>>don't think you'd like Frank very much either because he has a
>>prominent (but tasteful) "White Pride!" tattoo on his stomach.  Now
>>Frank's a good man!  

>Aryan evolution at work... thick frontal bones, baldness and stomach
>tatoos.

>Brian, are you sure you're not someone's caricature of a Nazi?

Actually none of the persons I mentioned above are in the National
Alliance, although they are fully aware of and wholeheartedly believe
in the goals of the National Alliance.  They are simply family men,
working men, men who are gravely concerned about the genocidal
movement to eradicate Whites which you so jubilantly promote.  They
are good friends, work-out buddies, and men I would be proud to fight
side by side with to protect the future of my people.  

Brian Smith
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daddison@lville.mindspring.com (Don Addison) wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:


>>daddison@lville.mindspring.com (Don Addison) wrote:

>>>>>http://www.mindspring.com/~daddison

>>>>That's funny.  India used to be an Aryan country.

>>>>Go figure.

>>>>Brian Smith
>>>>www.natall.com

>>>Lemme see Brian. India was an Aryan country. Aryans migrated north to
>>>northern Europe, while some stayed in India. Hence your "kin" evolved
>>>into the blonde haired, blue eyed race we know today. Therefore you
>>>and the little brown skinned guys in India share a common heritage and
>>>bloodline. In other words you have cousins in India worshipping Shiva
>>>and Kali right now, and your precious bloodline is tainted with brown,
>>>Indo-Aryan-European blood.

>>(laughing harder than I've EVER laughed on M.A.M.!)   You have it
>>REVERSED, Mr. Addison.  The Nordic invaders were ALREADY blonde and
>>blue-eyed.   AFTER they mixed with non-Whites, then they turned brown.


>>Please tell me you were joking?

>>Brian Smith
>>www.natall.com


>You just don't get the idea of history do you? Your precious Aryan
>ancestors migrated from India TO Europe. After a few thousand years,
>the dark pigments in their disappeared because they were no longer
>needed to protect them from the hot Indian sun. This is when Aryans
>became blonde and blue eyed. You are just a few generations down the
>family tree (and maybe 1 generation out of the trees) from your brown
>ancestors. 

Don, Nordics were around before 3000 B.C.   The Indo-Aryans invaders
were already blue-eyed.  The Indo-Aryans were not "Brown people" who
then became Blue-eyed after they left India.  There are mummies of
White men over nine thousands years old.  Plus, Nordics traits could
not develop in a mere couple thousand years but were evolved through
several thousand years, most likely through a very harsh ice climate.


Brian Smith
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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:

>In article <846975838$6222@atype.com>, anndaltyn@aol.com (AnnDaltyn)
>writes:

>> Is this Andy Strassmeier some friend of yours because I have never heard
>of him.

>ROFLMAO X 2  whoo hoo!  no, no, little netnazi, you have the accent all
>wrong, you're supposed to say "I know nossingk!"...

Arlin, I hate to have to be the one to tell you this but:  

you're an interminable goofball.

Brian Smith
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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:

>In article <846975805$6152@atype.com>, anndaltyn@aol.com (AnnDaltyn)
>writes:

>>Arlin you lil old fool.  Milton was never anyones "boss" in the National
>>Alliance.  

>ROFLMAO!  I always wondered how you folks would try to lie your way out of
>that one!  sorry annazi, but we've verified our version through *other*
>sources.  Remember, you can never, never, never trust a nazi...especially
>because you never know if they are really a nazi at all, now do you?

Arlin, I know you are simply fibbing for attention again, but the
truth of the matter is Milton Kleim was an NA for maybe 2 months at
the very longest.  They his skinhead girlfriend broke up with him and
that triggered Milton to reevaluate his life and quit the movement for
good.  Otherwise, he had no exceptional rank, status, or any other
position in the NA except perhaps that which he imagined in his
swollen head. 

Brian Smith
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ad654@seorf.ohiou.edu (Janet Littler) wrote:


>>
>>                             Re: What the hell...?
>>                                       
>>   From: anndaltyn@aol.com (AnnDaltyn)
>>   Reply to: AnnDaltyn
>>   Date: Sun, 3 Nov 96 3:18:20 GMT
>>   Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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>>
>>
>>In article <846906567$2745@atype.com>, ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) writes:
>>
>>>In article <846874088$22364@atype.com>, daddison@lville.mindspring.com
>>>(Don Addison) writes:
>>>
>>>> Except for the obviously intelligent one (I
>>>>think his name is Strom), they are probably all the same person using
>>>>various names and fake e-mail addresses to give the illusion of
>>>>numbers.
>>>
>>>oh, I'm reasonably sure that the annazi is a fake - these nazi types
>>don't
>>>go in for women who think...as for the others, yeah, there are some
>>>duplicates, but I'd make it 3, maybe 4 total netnazis, all in all.
>>>
>>>Arlin
>>
>>Haha ha Arleen..  & no thanks for all the earlier blonde jokes either.
>>
>>Again Arlin proves he is an idiot or is he just spreading propaganda.  I
>>am a woman and I am a member of the National Alliance. The National
>>Alliance has many women members including women in important staff and
>>leadership positions.  The NA as a rule goes for all Aryans who can think
>>well and can think for themselves.
>>
>>I personally have met, know of and correspond with about 50 NA women &
>>with about over 100 men infrequently.  I am often to busy with my family
>>pursuits, kids, husband, projects, books.   Notice that I do not often
>>post on weekends or yesterday for Samhain/Halloween I am usually too busy
>>with my wonderful family and caring & intelligent friends.
>>
>>The NA is a the Largest Pan-Aryan organization & has members all around
>>the world.  I would assume that a large portion of them are women as we do
>>make up the majority of creatures on this planet.

>Yeah, Ann, serve your masters, kuche, kirke und kinder. And watch those labels
>Naziism and Communism sprang from the same philosophical roots. 
>Janet

Actually, White nationalism and Thomas Jefferson sprang up from the
same philosophical and racial roots.  I guess that's why most of you
want to rewrite history to either omit or denounce Thomas Jefferson's
racial views.  However, Race was all-important to Jefferson.  Divorce
his ideas from his values, beliefs, and allegiances to race and you
completely misdescribe both the man AND his ideas.   

Brian Smith
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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:


>In article <846982990$7215@atype.com>, "Van Meter" 
>writes:

>>Al, you are expressing yourself very well There are millions of parasites
>>in this country
>>who do effect your life indirectly now, but face to face later.

>we'll deal with you little racists in good time, vanazi, don't worry about
>it...

Arleen, it's interesting that noone on the White patriot side has
threatened militia members as a whole in any way whatsoever, yet you
make open threats of "dealing with" White patriots in summary fashion.


Brian Smith
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e142857@teleport.com (Walter Ulrich) wrote:

>>   anndaltyn@aol.com (AnnDaltyn) writes:

>>  I personally have met, know of and correspond with about 50 NA women &
>>  with about over 100 men infrequently.  I am often to busy with my family
>>  pursuits, kids, husband, projects, books.   Notice that I do not often
>>  post on weekends or yesterday for Samhain/Halloween I am usually too busy
>>  with my wonderful family and caring & intelligent friends.

>"Caring and intelligent friends"...roasting Jew and nigger babies over an
>open fire?

Walter, have you been reading those goofy tracks from Morris Dees'
Southern Poverty Law Center again?  You should hear what they say
about militias!

Brian Smith
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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:

>sorry guy, but we're not here for hero worship.  Most especially we are
>not here give any sort of encouragement to a group which openly murders
>unarmed innocents.

What do call militias then?  Ever heard of Terry Nichols?  Tim
McVeigh?

Brian Smith
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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:

>In article <846982099$7174@atype.com>, hmurdock@inreach.com (H. Murdock)
>writes:

>>This is but another example of why peaceful seperation of the different
>>"communities" such as "black," "hispanic." etc. into their own
>>geographical communities is the best way to stop this racial violence.

>no, it's merely a messed up situation which you are trying to twist in a
>vain attempt at selfjustification, no sale, murdnazi, no sale at all.

Arlin would rather have every race piled on top of one another, thrown
in together in a chaotic mess with nothing in common, fighting each
other, trying to FORCE diversity on everyone to fulfill some sort of
sick liberal dream Arlin has.

No wonder the Black separatist movement is growing by leaps and
bounds.  Are you gonna "deal with" them too, Arlin?

Brian Smith
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sybesma@netcom.com (Steven D. Sybesma) wrote:

>You and your heroes at the U.N. feel real sorry for the Palestinians, I've 
>noticed.

>You should maybe put on a U.N. uniform and go over there and fight for them.

>God bless,

Rather, YOU you should go over and fight for Israel, since blasting
the tops of Palestinian children's heads off with Uzis is an activity
you so sacredly defend is Israel's divine privilege!

Brian Smith
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"The name's Steve.  Anything Jews do, it's OK!!  The Good Lord
promised they would rule over dumb goyim like m'self and I'll do
anything they want!  Anything the Self-Chosen wishes -- is my
command!"



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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:

>in yet another desperate attempt to start *something* before their masters
>cut off their drug supply, the netnazis once again are reduced to standing
>in a corner, waving their arms at each other...

Arlin, are you "an obsessive-compulsive poster" who feels the need to
respond to anything and EVERYTHING that is posted with some comment,
no matter how foolish?  Just wondering.  You should know that your
credibility is greatly reduced as a result. 

Brian Smith
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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:


>In article <846923595$3437@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>Pacifism is sickening as it chooses passivity over the will to enforce
>>and defend one's values from destruction. 

>little brianazi you missed the point - from Raj's perspective his values
>*would* be destroyed if he did violence to another.  Bet that bends your
>mind around all kinds of corners, now doesn't it?

His values are indeed different than mine.  He values feminine
passivity as some sort of moral superiority.   Being passive is valued
more than intervening when your wife is getting raped in front of you.
No takers here, Gandhi!  

You can go on thinking you're as morally superior all you want,
Gandhi!   Nature favors the strong and ultimately discards those who
refuse to protect themselves.  By all means commit suicide, Gandhi, if
that's what you want:  don't let me talk you out of it.  The world is
already too overcrowded in many places as it is.  

Brian Smith
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e142857@teleport.com (Walter Ulrich) wrote:

>>   joe@junior.apk.net (Joseph T. Adams) writes:>  

>>  Brian Smith (sbrian@micron.net) wrote:
>  
>>  : into passive Indian peons!   Why don't take your Eastern Guru
>>  : philosophies and chants and go worship cows under a tree somewhere,
>>  : Gandhi!!  Whatever you do, don't swat at the flies.  It could be your
>>  : great grandaddy buzzing right next to you!!
>  
>  It's easy to ridicule another's beliefs, when you have none of your
> own.

>>>>>

>"A man who believes in nothing ends up believing everything."

I already have my beliefs, thank you.  And I have made those quite
clear.  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com 

"Once you start believing in SUPERSTITIONS, then you are liable to
believe anything!"



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daddison@lville.mindspring.com (Don Addison) wrote:

>BTW Brian, your beloved swastika predates your Third Reich by about
>2000 years. The earliest representation of a swastika has been found
>in India. Seems it was originally a Hindu symbol.
>Pagan, Patriot, and Proud of both!
>Blessed Be!

>http://www.mindspring.com/~daddison

That's funny.  India used to be an Aryan country.

Go figure.

Brian Smith
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mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney) wrote:

>In message <846887603$1432@atype.com> - rarpol@aol.com (RARPOL) writes:
>:>Besides another reason I doubt that Beria is jewish is that Stalin
>:>(a well known anti-semite) would have never appointed him to run their
>:>native Georgia from 1932-1938, much less than head the dreaded NKVD.   

>I think you just proved your gross ignorance. During your "studies" of Russia 
>did you ever run across someone named Kaganovich? He was Stalin's right-hand 
>man and a Jew. Stalin's daughter even married Kaganovich's son.

>NEXT?

We got one guy, Wizard, who is a Marxist yet keeps claiming White
nationalism is communism.

Then we got Randy Ragsdale who says Communism ISN'T Jewish.

We got another who claim Thomas Jefferson and Washington were really
secret champions of gay and minority rights, but that their actions
were done merely to cunningly fool people into thinking they were not.

Multiracial militiamen indeed have a bizarre mythology.  Next we are
going to hear Benjamin Franklin was really a closet Zionist.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"You can call me Randy.  Hell.  I don't need facts.  They only get in
the way!"  



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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:

>In article <846924500$3515@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <846897483$2088@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>>>writes:
>>
>>>>Only a
>>>>drooling Nazi moron would confuse their positions on free-speech
>issues.
>>
>>>why, brianazi, I didn't realize you little netnazis had such an accurate
>>>picture of yourselves! 
>>
>>>Arlin H. Adams
>>
>>I see you're now MAKING UP QUOTES I never wrote and attributing them
>>to me!  

>GONG!  you lose brianazi!  go back into dejanews and do a search on the
>message number 
>846897483$2088@atype.com
>and you'll find you wrote just what I quoted...
>all I did was decontextualize one of your little netnazi statements, the
>way you nazis like to decontextualize the statements of others.

>GOTCHA!

That's an AWFULLY questionable posting technique at best, Arlin.   But
I guess you're getting pretty desperate now.  ANYTHING GOES with
Arlin!  

Brian Smith
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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:

>In article <847001914$10115@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>Rather, YOU you should go over and fight for Israel, since blasting
>>the tops of Palestinian children's heads off with Uzis is an activity
>>you so sacredly defend is Israel's divine privilege!

>I see, little brianazi, so then you believe that the Palestinians have
>reserved the right to the suicide bombing of commuter busses, eh?

Suicide bombing is invariably the sign of desperation by one party
brutally oppressed for long periods beyond hope.  

Despite the Christian lickspittle who slavishly blesses every Israeli
action as a divinely sanctioned act, I do not ascribe to any
contemptible superstition that the deceitful little parasitic bandit
called "Israel" which bilks billions of taxdollars from the American
slaves, is the manifestation of some Holy prophecy.  

You probably think the Israeli fighters who came back to "mop up" the
U.S.S. Liberty servicemen who were trying to escape in lifeboats after
an earlier merciless attack minutes earlier by Israelis that killed
over 30 of them, were doing the "God's work!!"

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"The name's Arlin.  The Israelis just blew up the U.S.S. Liberty?
Well PRAISE the LORD!!!"



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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:


>In article <846971291$5900@atype.com>, "Van Meter" 
>writes:

>>Turn your situation around, this time you are the minority, the Africans
>>are the majority; how many african friends to you think you will have
>now?
>> My suggestion to you is, if you found yourself in that situation, is to
>>run for your life

>little vanazi I *live* in that situation, and I don't have to run
>anywhere...the only thing *you* would be running from would be your own
>fear - and since that's entirely within you, there's no place you can run
>to get away from it in any case.

Statistics shows you will be robbed soon if you have not been robbed
several times already Arlin.  Undoubtedly you will not mind, as it
will only give you an opportunity to pass on your belongings, though
involuntarily, to the precious Black brethren, whom you obviously owe
a debt to from past slavery.  

Think of it Arlin!  What a "charge" you'll get out of being at the
mercy of a non-White!   A complete reversal of the hitherto
all-powerful White man, being brought low by the non-White! I bet it
sends a shiver of excitement down your egalitarian spine!

Maybe they will have mercy on you and not shoot you in the back of
your "honkey head," as many endearingly misguided Black youths are
wont to do.  Either way, you come out on top:  you will then
presumably go to the multiracial heaven in the sky! 

Brian Smith
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"PRAISE the LORD!"



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medintz@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (Mike S. Medintz) wrote:

>Think of it this way-our border serves as a sort of political safety valve
>for Mexico. Plug the popoff valve, and the tank blows. Now, a resumption of 
>the revolution that Mexico tried, which didn't quite go to completion,
>would, among other effects, be the end of a LOT of relatively inexpensive
>goods in the US market.

Crap!  We don't need to be interdependent on some non-White peon
country!!  If they want to "blow up" or invade, that threat can easily
be dealt with.

However, the same forces which refuse to solve the immigration problem
have also seen to it that our economy is tied to the dead weight of a
poor, non-White country, in order to "globalize" America, to pull down
the living standards of White countries to that of the third world,
and "equalize" wages everywhere, per the New World Order!  

It's quite a wonderful world our New World Order masters planned for
us.  Just sit back and relax.  I'm sure they'll take GOOD care of us!

Brian Smith
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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:

>>>we'll deal with you little racists in good time, vanazi, don't worry
>about it...
>>
>>Arleen, it's interesting that noone on the White patriot side has
>>threatened militia members as a whole in any way whatsoever, yet you
>>make open threats of "dealing with" White patriots in summary fashion.

>talk to billynazi about enemies of your movement...

Mr. Breeding (that is his name, Mr. Adams) nor anyone in the National
Alliance has made ANY threats against the militia as a whole.  Yet you
continue to make threats, along with Mr. Vanderboegh, against White
patriots.  

I guess since your obsessive-compulsory ad hominem postings have so
far succeeded in nothing except exposing yourself as foolish, you are
now desperate enough to issue threats.  

Pretty sad, Arlin!

Brian Smith
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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:


>In article <847010011$10652@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>Walter, have you been reading those goofy tracks from Morris Dees'
>>Southern Poverty Law Center again?  You should hear what they say
>>about militias!

>naah, but we have some interesting prints of footprints and tire tracks
>from the OKC bomb mixing site brianazi, and we *all* know about
>those....yeesh!  nazi spelling lesson #3  "tracts" not "tracks" are
>printed material...oh by the way, little netnazi, speaking of tracks - you
>probably already knew that there was a second truck used by the bombers to
>haul their equipment...was anybody you know driving it?  If so you might
>want to let them know they left some *wonderful* tread impressions....

LOL!  What a card you are, Arlin!  II guess the above is Arlin's
attempt to downplay the bombing which militia members Tim McVeigh and
Terry Nichols were involved in.  "Let's blame the Nazis for it!!" 

Sad, as usual, Arlin.

Brian Smith
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pgissource@aol.com (PGISSource) wrote:


>In article <847010956$10770@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>Actually, White nationalism and Thomas Jefferson sprang up 
>>from the same philosophical and racial roots.  I guess that's 
>>why most of you want to rewrite history to either omit or 
>>denounce Thomas Jefferson's racial views.  However, Race 
>>was all-important to Jefferson.  Divorce his ideas from his values, 
>>beliefs, and allegiances to race and you completely misdescribe 
>>both the man AND his ideas.   

>Then given that you clearly and openly espouse commie beliefs are you
>admitting that "White Nationalism" and racism are only smokescreens hiding
>your real goals, little euro-commie?

The Wizard of the Communism speaks!  Hey Wizard, I heard the ADL is
having a convention in November in British Columbia on installing gun
control in America.   Since your e-mail address is tied to Nizkor,
which is tied to the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ADL, I'm sure
you sent in your deposit for it long ago!!

I don't blame you for it though.  I realize fellow Marxists have to
stick together!   Don't forget to say hello for Arlin to Abe Foxman,
the ADL chairman!!   

Brian Smith
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Charles Winters  wrote:

>Nonsense!  Don't fall for it.  Neither read nor respond to these posts.  Without a 
>reaction from us, the racists will not get the gratification they seek.  It reminds 
>me of the typical American Nazi Party rally, where 20 Nazis show up in their 
>ludicrous uniforms, along with 2000 yelling, screaming, left wingers who hate the 
>Nazis as much as the Nazis hate them.  It ends up being a publicity stunt.  Both the 
>Nazis and Communists get airtime on the TV news and an opportunity to promote their 
>cause to the general public. Most of all, they get self gratification.  All this 
>attention and feedback makes them feel important.  In this respect, they have the 
>same motives as Dr. Pitcavage and his cohorts.

The NA is not a "Nazi" organization.  We don't have "Nazi uniforms"
either.   We are professionals, working men, and professors, all who
gravely oppose the ongoing movement to utterly wipe out the White
race's existence.   

>A much better approach for reasonable, law-abiding citizens to take is to shun all 
>racists where ever they might turn up.  Don't let them trigger a hateful reaction 
>from you.  They must be pitied and ultimately helped, where possible.  Whether you 
>see someone with a swastika armband standing on a streetcorner handing out leaflets, 
>or a post on MAM, ignore them as if they were the devil himself. If they were part of 
>the government or a significant force in the electorate, we would need to devote 
>more of our energies to them.  But the fact is, they are a tiny, fringe element.  
>Their real danger is the impression they give the general public that they are 
>militiamen.  We should do everything we can to disassociate the militia from these 
>people.  They should be isolated and clearly identifed as not part of our community. 

Again, we do not have "Nazi" uniforms nor uniforms of ANY kind.  The
NA is not a "Hollywood Nazi" operation although you obviously want to
pigeonhole us that way, regardless of whatever the facts are.  Facts
are something you obviously care NOTHING about.

We are just normal, everyday White Americans who are fed up with the
genocide and savage destruction of our people.  Your intent is to make
the NA out to be ostentatious, and that is completely contradicted by
the facts of our organization.    

Sorry:  I guess you'll have to just come up with some other bit of
disinformation in your "truth be damned" crusade to smear the National
Alliance.   

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:


>In article <847010021$10666@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:
>>
>>>sorry guy, but we're not here for hero worship.  Most especially we are
>>>not here give any sort of encouragement to a group which openly murders
>>>unarmed innocents.
>>
>>What do call militias then?  Ever heard of Terry Nichols?  Tim
>>McVeigh?

>Well, let's see, McV is a member of the brudern schweinen (and yes, the
>misspelling is intentional), and Nichols is somebody who discovered what
>talking big around a bunch of white supremacists would get him...no
>Constitutional Militia there - just neo-nazis...ask weird willie pierce
>about the phone calls from his friend Timmy, or perhaps ask weird willie
>why he breached his own security vis a vis Pfatzo Pfaff...not real bright
>that leader of yours, you know?

Tim McVeigh was in contact with SEVERAL militia people, and on a
continual basis.  So was Nichols.  I guess the above is Arlin's
pathetic attempt to do damage control to whitewash both McVeigh's and
Nichol's strong connections to militia groups.  

Arlin also wants to try and conceal the fact that the phone records
reveal McVeigh's only phone call to the National Alliance was a
hang-up call, after he got nothing more than the message machine. 

That Arlin, he's a slippery one.  I don't think even my militia
friends would want to hang around Arlin, a man who flies fast and
loose with the facts!  I guess such dishonesty is what happens when a
person committed to furthering an agenda at all costs.  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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BurningMan@The.Door (The Burning Man) wrote:

>Something is very wrong here. The presence here of these 
>Neo-Nazis is a very bad sign. It means that this group 
>is under attack, from a very powerful organization - the
>U.S. Federal Government.

Well, I know that I'M not an FBI agent unless a microchip was
implanted in my brain and I just don't know it, Burning Man.  

How do I know YOU'RE not an FBI Agent to destroy the movement to
preserve the White race?   

>These low-life, limited education, limited intilligence losers
>are the perfect patsies for the FBI/ATF. That's why they
>were used in the Oklahoma City Bombing to destroy and
>discredit the Militia movement, and it almost worked.

Err, did you ever think the government would do it?   I guess that
thought somehow escaped your "discerning" mind, Burning Man.

McVeigh's and Nichols' connection to Constitutional militia were far
stronger than they were to the NA.  McVeigh's sole "connection" to the
NA consisted of a single hang-up call to the National Office recording
machine.  Some "facts" you deal in, Burning Man.  

I used to read your stuff and think you had the fact to back up your
writing.  Now that I know you're wrong here, it now gives me great
pause to believe your other writings, Burning Man.

>These piss jar, cum bag, bus station toilet boys have the
>nerve to call for 'White Unity'. This is a completely obvious
>ploy to divide and conquer. These Neo-Nazis have only
>one object - to destroy the  good things we would fight
>for, in favor of the ignorance and bestiality that they
>worship. If they have a hand out to you, it means they
>have a gun in the other behind their back. 

You're pathetic, Burning Man.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com




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kate@accessone.com (Kathleen Mulhern) wrote:

>In article <55fcch$90f@fish.vf.pond.com>, sschultz@pond.com (Schultzie) wrote:

>*Okay guys.  Lets get this straight.  If you are going to play evil
>*Nzis, just like in the movies,  you are going to have to work on that
>*evil laugh of yours.
>*
>*Come on Brien.  Try it.  "Nyah-hah-hah!"

>Heh heh.  brian is too young and niave to look evil.  I can just picture
>him, all white and pasty and doughy, the constant glimmer of sweat on his
>upper lip, clinging to his pre-pubescent moustache that he's been trying
>to grow for 3 years but it's still just this little, fuzzy, patchy growth,
>wearing his "I Love Hitler!!" tee-shirt as he sits at his IBM 286 and
>types out his nonsense just to get some attention.  What's that?  Oh...
>it's brian's mom calling from upstairs, "Dinner's ready!  We're having
>sauerkraut again -- you're favorite!!" What a sad, pathetic picture it is
>of young, brain-dead brian.  

>*Very good.  Now wring your hands and lurk.
>*
>*Brien, do even YOU beleive you?

>I don't think he can.  He simply ignores the points that don't fit in with
>his agenda of anti-Semitism and hatred, so he obviously knows he's wrong
>and that with each contradictory post, his entire life (as his
>denial-and-hate-filled agenda makes him feel cool with the losers in the
>National Alliance.  It makes him feel like he actually belongs to
>something... like he's actually important.  How incredibly wrong he is)
>goes down in flames.  Oh well.  Too bad for you, young brian.

Actually, the National Alliance wants what the Jews denounce in White
people, yet possess for themselves:  a separate, exclusive homeland.
Jews can organize political groups for THEIR interest, and do so with
regularity, yet whenever Whites organize to protect their interests as
a people, Jews immediately denounce Whites as Nazis.  The double
standard is glaring.   

Jews openly talk of protecting Israel "for the Jews" but no White
country is permitted to be nationalistic without a full denunciation
>from  a Jewish media.   Jews are in the forefront of every movement to
globalize and multiracialize formerly White lands.   These non-White
hordes completely destroy the culture of Whites and life as a people,
and make their survival impossible.  No people can survive without an
exclusive homeland. 

The Jewish agenda, which is to multiracialize all White lands, is
completely incompatible with the survival of White people.  Jews have
an interest in destroying White sovereignty as well because White
nationalism has historically always been the Jews greatest enemy.  If
Whites wish to survive, they must throw off this destructive Jewish
media that is literally destroying their race through anti-White
propaganda.  

It's time Whites took back their destiny from the clutches of an alien
group of people who are deliberately and gravely harming them.  Whites
must have self-determination and a separation from a society that is
leading them into a multracial genocide.  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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kate@accessone.com (Kathleen Mulhern) wrote:

>In article <55ecu8$sb9@is05.micron.net>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>*It is obvious the Holocaust is presented as a JEWISH affair.  No other
>*group allegedly involved agitates for more money like the Jews do.
>*The Jews receive the greatest benefits from non-stop Jewish Holocaust
>*propaganda.  Ask anyone:  the Holocaust has been associated first and
>*foremost with Jewry.   To make matters worse, the Holocaust is a LIE!:

>Have you been to the Holocaust Museum?  Answer:  no, you have not. 
>Therefore, you wouldn't know about the pictures, stories and artifacts
>profiling the other victims of the Holocaust, such as the physcially and
>mentally disabled, gypsies, homosexuals, blacks, communists and other
>Hitler "undesireables."  They are fully and movingly represented in the
>Museum.  The simple FACT (I know you have no concept of what that word
>means) of the matter is that the majority of victims of the Holocaust and
>the target of the Holocaust was to rid Europe of Jews.  Therefore, if it
>seems that the Holocaust focuses on the Jewish victims, it is because a)
>the overwhelming majority of victims and the target of Hitler's plan were
>Jews and b) because the Jewish Survivor network is very well organized and
>very vocal.  If the homosexual Survivors or black Survivors or physically
>and mentally diabled Survivors or gypsy Survivors, who are represented in
>the Museum, want a memorial of their own, they can organize like the
>Jewish Survivors have done and build one.  But I have never heard any
>complaints from any of those groups about any so-called lack of
>recognition, only from the nazi wannabes.

The Holocaust is a great hoax of huge proportion.  Extermination by
gassing was never proven.  The crematoria at Auschwitz could not
possibly have cremated 3000 bodies per day.  Several other fraudulent
claims were made, such as the Germans used electrocution, steaming,
and vaporization to kill Jews, and all of them have quietly been
dropped because there was no proof.

However, there is also no proof for extermination by gassing either.
For an elaborate and detailed refutation to a hoax that is falling
apart, go to:

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
http://www.codoh.com/
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
http://www.air-photo.com/
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html

The ones who benefit financially and politically from Holocaust Hoax
propaganda are the Jews, yet Jews try to portray non-Whites as victims
as well, to try to get them to carry the Jewish banner.  

The Holocaust is also a useful tool to discredit any effort by Whites
to organize against their engulfment and eradication by
multiracialism.  The Jews immediately claim "that's what Hitler
wanted!" in order to marginalize and neutralize any resistance to
non-White immigration.  

Brian Smith
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DKL8321@utarlg.uta.edu (Douglas K Long) wrote:

>Jim Walsh (jimwalsh@transend.com.tw) wrote:

>: The policy of the Allies of treating diversity as a strength was an essential 
>: element in their victory.

>	This simpleton and erroneous analysis of the Germans during WW II
>	is meant to be some kind of joke, right, Jim?  

Only "loving" Jim could rewrite WWII, a horrible, fratricidal war
fought predominantly on all sides by WHITE men, as a victory credited
to diversity.   

Whenever the Germans saw a place in the line defended by Blacks, they
attacked it because they knew it was the weak link.  A U.S. general
was quoted as saying that if a unit was over 20% Black it was
worthless.  Blacks had the highest rate of abandonment in every war.

Next he'll be telling us WWI was won by Black soldiers.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

>:      Love, Jim Walsh

>: [P.S. I sometimes correct spelling and grammar in quoted material without intending to modify the meaning.]






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mpitcava@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark T Pitcavage) wrote:

>As to my ethnicity and identity, I am an African-Asian-Native
>American-European-Australian-Indian-Pacific 
>Islander-Jewish-Catholic-Protestant-Atheist-Muslim-Buddhist-Hindu-straight-
>gay-bisexual-AMERICAN.

Then you are the ideal citizen of the New World Order.  The rule is
"anything but White!"

Congratulations!

Brian Smith
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Kaa Byington  wrote:

>Brian Smith wrote:

>> The Holocaust is a Lie.  Extermination by gassing never occurred. 

>Yeah, yeah, yeah.  It occurred by gassing, (various kinds) shooting, and 
>whatever other means they could use.  

No, you don't understand.  Eyewitnesses claimed in GREAT DETAIL that
Jews were also killed by electrocution and steaming, and that gas
chambers existed on German soil.  And all these claims, which served
to hang Germans at Nuremberg, have now ALL been found false and
quietly dropped!!   

However, there is no difference in the amount of physical evidence
between the claim for steaming and the claims for gas chambers!!
Neither of them have ANY physical evidence.   However, there IS
evidence showing the camps WERE labor camps and had fully medical
facilities for inmate health and that Zyklon B was manufactured and
used for fumigation typhus bearing lice!  For more details, such as
the so-called gas chambers had no ventilation fans (!), please see:  

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
http://www.codoh.com/
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
http://www.air-photo.com/
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html

>>The crematoria was used as crematoria for dead people, 

>Sure: they didn't cremate them alive.

No evidence!   More ridiculous anti-German war propaganda.  Why spend
so much money on food and medicine for inmates, and divert HUGE
amounts of resources for camp upkeep, and guards, and travel expenses
and fuel for transporting inmates, when the German could have simply
shot them dead on the spot, if they were trying to "exterminate" them?
It makes no sense whatsoever.  Just as there is no physical evidence
for the claim whatsoever.  

> just as designed.
>> The insecticide Zyklon B was used as an insecticide, just as
>> manufactured.   

>Why don't you get some new arguments.  

Why don't you get a shred of physical evidence for your claims. 

>Golly, the Holocaust is hardly my deepest held notion, it's just a fact 
>of history, like Columbus discovering America.  It's important to you 
>because you have to explain it away in order to get the stains of a 
>hideous crime against humanity off your bent white philosophy. 

The Holocaust is a monstrous lie.  And you have been duped.  So what
else is new!

> and go to these
>> sites, and read them, you will NEVER see the world in the same way
>> again. 

>I really doubt it. It's boring, convoluted stuff, and I have no interest 
>in plowing through it.  You keep posting it over and over to the point of 
>nausea on here anyway.

You couldn't refute it, I notice!

> You will never trust the media again. 

>I didn't get my knowledge of the Holocaust from the media.

Who did you get it from?  There are Jewish inmates who have come out
and ADMITTED the Holocaust is a fraud, that the Nazis were not trying
to exterminate them!  Had the Germans been trying to exterminate Jews
there would not have been a SINGLE Jewish inmate left alive in the
camps as the Allies liberate them.  

> If you are a man of
>> honor you will be entrusted to do whatever you can to oppose this
>> pernicious campaign of lies and deceit.

>Afraid I don't fit the category of man of honor, so you can count me out. 

I suppose you believe a 46-muffle crematoria can cremate 3000 people a
day!!   Or that open pits at Treblinka cremated 8000 people a day.
What WON'T you believe!
 
>> I don't think there would be many disputes. Those with doubts about
>> their own genetic background are unlikely to be attracted to a White
>> homeland; and even those that do would be in such miniscule numbers
>> that they could be safely ignored with little harm to the nation.

> Yeah, sure.  What if they happened to be living there already?  I 
>understand that some of your ilk have ideas about making Idaho, Montana 
>and parts of BC into yur white homeland.  The Blackfeet Jewish Indian 
>Reservation is in Montana in your target area, and my kids come from the 
>earliest Montana settlers.  You gonna kick 'em out? 
>Or what?

The details can be negotiated.  Compromises can be negotiated.  The
only thing that CANNOT be negotiated is the necessary and right of the
White race to secure its own survival, future, destiny, and
sovereignty.  

>> The alleged intermarrying of Asians with Europeans from Genghis Khan
>> invasion of Eastern Europe has been wildly overstated, so further the
>> discredit the idea of a "White race."  Khan only got as far as the
>> Eastern Ukraine and his foothold there lasted from 1222-1227, a mere 5
>> or 6 years.

>My guess is that most genes there didn't cross over through 
>intermarriage, but rather through rape, the way invading armies 
>traditionally share their genes. THe Russians lived under the "Tartar 
>yoke" for hundreds of years.   ANd you forget that Attila the Hun was 
>Asian, and a number of other raiders from the east.  They got as far as 
>southern Germany, and they left behind them the Slavs--those high 
>cheekbones and those slanty eyes.  I believe that in Hitler's Aryan 
>philosophy, Slavs were not white, excactly because of that.

Attila the Hun was defeated as soon as he entered Europe and his
empire withered almost immediately.  The Huns were driven immediately
back.  In general, most subjugated peoples avoided intermarrying.
Although the Tatar empire lasted 200 years, there was no
propagandistic effort afoot to encourage the Slavs to mix with Tatars
(although of course some did) but it was not on a wide scale.  Even
the Germans in slavicized lands maintained their Germanic communities
apart from the Slavs and avoided intermarrying as a rule. 

Nonetheless, the goal of White nationalism is to avoid futher racial
amalgamation and preserve the European gene pool.  A relatively few
Europeans is all that is required to do this.  For the European people
to survive, they must separate themselves from the multiracial morass
they have been thrown into and build a new and separate society, else
be engulfed.  

You denounce the fraudulent genocide of Jews yet you give the nod to
the ACTUAL genocide of Whites.  An interesting double standard you
have there, Mr. Byington.   

>> Jews, contrary to popular belief, have NOTHING to do with Palestine or
>> Arabs.  The vast majority of Jews are Khazarian, an Asiatic from a
>> province of Russia who converted en masse to Judaism in the 9th
>> century.  (See Arthur Koestler's _The Thirteenth Tribe_ and do a
>> websearch on Khazaria).

>Not according to any other history of the Jews but yours.

Arthur Koestler was a Jew.   But why don't hear it straight from the
Jews themselves, then, maybe you will be forced to accept a fact which
contradicts your preconceived ignorance:

http://shamash.nysernet.org/trb/whjr95.html
 
>> > Their
>> >>behavioral characteristics in every society they have ever inhabited
>> >>has been the same:  a contempt for the host nation and a chauvanism,
>> >>along with a formation of a separate "nation within a nation,"

>Not so.  They have done, and did, great things for the countries in which 
>they lived.  Far from becoming a separate nation, in countries like 
>England they've been incorporated into the aristocracy.  The really rich 
>ones, that is, like the Rothschild's.

They have only DESTROYED the countries they have lived in.   In
England, they have turned it into a multiracial cesspool similar to
what they have done to America.  Jews staged or attempted communist
revolutions in nearly every country they inhabited.  The ones they
succeeded in invariably resulted in bloodbaths and the liquidation of
the aristocracy and most intelligent.  

>> You forget to add that had there not been Jewish bankers, the
>> Europeans still could have funded their own expeditions, and WITHOUT
>> usury!

>HIghly doubtful.  Nobody will lend money at no interest.  They'll spend 
>it first.  

Either way, it is obviously to the best interest of Whites for WHITES
to control their own pursestrings, instead of rendering control to an
alien nation with a destructive interest.   Whites don't NEED Jews to
look after their own finances, thank you.
 
>> Many popes condemned the Jewish involvement in White slave trade,
>> which exported White girls to non-White countries.

>Citations?  In fact, be more specific.  This is so weird, it's 
>interesting.  What non-white countries?  When?  

The Pope I am referring to is Pope Gregory I the Great, who protested
wholesale circumcision of Christian slaves by Jewish traders, who
monopolized the slave trade in Europe and the Middle East.  I will ask
around for that book.  

However, that Jews should monopolize White slave trading should be no
suprise to you, as the Talmud instructs that the goyim (non-Jews) are
to be made slaves for the Jews, and are in fact animal-slaves for the
Jews in human form, created to serve the Jews.  If you wish, I will
fish out the cite for you from the Talmud.  No problem.

>> No, I know a lot of Jews.  Have all my life.  They're Americans first.
>I take it you don't know any, considering your philosophy, so how the 
>hell would you know?

You make the mistake of viewing Jews only within the scope of your
personal experience with them while completely ignoring the activities
and effects of the Jewish people as a GROUP throughout history.  It is
a typical egalitarian oversight, one which is not surprisingly often
made considering we are all instructed to eschew examining group
behavior:  such analysis reveals racial differences.  

>> >>Men throughout history, from the Popes to kings, writers and rulers
>> >>alike, have observed the peculiar and pernicious behavior of Jews.
>> >>Pick up a copy of _The Jews_ by Hillaire Belloc, or _The International
>> >>Jew_ by Henry Ford.   It gives the history of the Jews and their
>> >>relentless drive to dominate and destroy whatever society they
>> >>inhabit.  Today, Jews dominate the media.  They have ALWAYS dominated
>> >>finance!

>Let's have a different song.  We're all tired of that one.

Inconvenient truth is very displeasing, is it not!
 
>> >Yeah, they're good at it.  Because Christians couldn't charge interest on
>> >loans.
>> 
>> They are also "good at it" because of their tightness as a people.

>Well, buster, you ought to read a book called "Capitalism and The 
>Protestant Ethic" by Max Weber.  (A German!)  He says that the reason 
>capitalism was so successful in north Germany was that the religion there 
>was Protestant, which had very puritanical values: save save save and 
>don't spend any of it on anything that might show you were rich. Catholic 
>south Germany didn't do so well, because Catholics didn't have the 
>Protestant ethic and blew their money on high living and art works and 
>such.  The Protestants, having saved all this money with nothing to spend 
>it on, finally figured out what to do with it: invest it in capitalist 
>enterprises.  So it was the tightness of the Aryan north Germans that 
>drove the expansion of Capitalism.  The Jews were "tight"--i.e. saved 
>their money and invested it, but they were also generous and gave a lot 
>of it away, unlike the Protestant north Germans.  Your ancestors, I 
>presume?

My ancestors are from the British Isles.  At any rate, Jews have
possessed a disproportionate control over the purse-strings, quite
remarkable considering they lived as a separate nation within foreign
lands.  However, it is to the best interest of Whites to control their
OWN finances, instead of allowing a hostile and predatory tribe to
have financial control over them.  Such Jewish control has proven
disastrous, as Jews now dominate both Europe and America, and are
using their power to dissolve the White race.  

>> >>The Nazis worked with Jews to relocate them out of Europe.
>> >>Extermination was not the German goal.  Had it been, there wouldn't
>> >>have been milllions of "Holocaust survivors" today to collect German
>> >>reparations.  There certainly would have been none left alive in the
>> >>camps when they were liberated.

>I think Nizkor can easily debunk every word of that.  I don't bother with 
>it.

You trust Nizkor to think for you instead of investigating the matter
for yourself.  I suppose such an attitude is easier on the eyes (but
quite enslaving to the mind!).  

>Yeah, but you might kill those who can't work very well, like the old, 
>the children, the less than able bodied, most of the women.  Then you 
>work the rest to death.

Ridiculous!  Why bother to have labor camps entrusting workers with
valuable resources to make needed vitally products whom you will work
to death.   It will destroy your work quality at the very least, and
is a waste of resources in transporting prisoners across Europe, from
Greece to Poland, just to work them a few weeks.  Again, the
allegation neither makes any sense nor has any evidence for it, and
also contradicts existing documents!  Par for the course.

>  The Red Cross
>> investigated the camps and found excellent conditions on several
>> occasions.  Himmler ordered the camps to preserve lives at all costs!!

>Well, they sure didn't manage it very well, now did they?

The Allies cut the German supply lines at the end of the war by
bombing.  Many Germans also succumbed to disease and starvation.  This
doesn't prove any plan to exterminate, however, nor does it prove
gassing.  Those have never been proven with anything other than
hopelessly contradictory eyewitness testimony, uncorrobated by ANY
physical evidence, all presented at a lopsided kangaroo court.

>> The Holocaust is an amazing hoax.  Its inaccuracies and absurdities
>> are vast. 

> Yeah, it's almost as hard to believe as that old hoax, the earth is 
>round.

The Holocaust Lie is actually very similar to the widely held fallacy
that the Earth was FLAT!
 
>> Why ship Jews across vast stretches of land to work them a few weeks?

>One reason is so your own people won't see you killing them. 

The camps were run in public!  If anything, the Germans, had they
wanted to kill them, could have easily taken the prisoners a few miles
away, in a secluded area, and shot them dead.  

>> Globalization is not a natural process. 

>The Roman Empire was global, the Chinese empire was global, all the great 
>empires were global in that they encompassed their known world at the 
>time.  THat was the idea behind the Third Reich, too--a global German 
>empire.  I'd quickly change that subject, if I were you.

You misunderstand the use of the word "globalization."  It is the
concept of purposely incorporating multiracialism.  The Chinese empire
did not incorporate multiracialism.   The Roman Empire, however,
adopted multiracialism and make every person in Roman territory a
citizen.  The Roman Empire decayed!

>This drive for globalization started when Marco Polo came back with tales 
>of the riches of the East, and with the crusades.  As soon as East met 
>west and trade started, it was under way.  The only thing holding it back 
>was the speed of transportation and of communication, and now it's 
>instantaneous.  There is an international culture out there--you can go 
>to any city in the world and find the same signs, the same high rises, 
>people wering the same clothes all of them complaining about the same 
>things, and usually in English, too.  You'll never untangle it, boy.  
>You've had it.

International trade does not mean all lands must be globalized.  There
is no reason why immigration cannot be stopped.  That is the purpose
of the armed forces:  to prevent invasion.

>I would love to know about the role of Jews in the French Revolution. 
>And even more, in the Chinese Revolution.  What citatiions do you have on 
>these? 

Did I say Jews were involved in EVERY COUNTRY in the world?  However,
or evidence of the thick Jewish involvement in the French revolution
see Nesta Webster's authoritative _The French Revolution_, (519
pages).  The names are all there in black and white. 

>> Most Whites are not so discerning. 

>Yes, I think they are.  They think the Holocaust is YOUR fault, like I 
>do.

The purpose of the Holocaust Hoax is to discredit White nationalism,
to discredit any attempt for Whites to oppose their racial
dissolution.  Any time Whites try to organize to halt their
eradication, the movement is immediately labelled "Nazi" and
immediately marginalized and neutralized.  In this way, Whites are
prevented from organizing as a race to prevent their own destruction.


>> Whites.   Furthermore, the higher civilized and more intelligence race
>> will usually produce less children than a lower race.  It is no
>> suprise that mestizos invading from Mexico have families five times
>> larger than Whites, who aren't even replenishing their own numbers.

>Oh, baloney.  Any demographer will tell you that in those countries which 
>have a very high birth rate, which are always poor, the reasons have 
>nothing to do with "race."  

Garbage.  The birthrates of the poorest White sections are nothing in
comparison to the astounding birthrates of poor non-White countries .

>In these countries, families traditionlly have large numbers of children to work in the fields, and to provide 
>social security for their old age.  Because infant mortality rates are 
>very high there, they custommarily and traditionally have a large number. 
> But even there, modern medicine and sanitation have lowered the infant 
>mortality rate, so that they have more children that live beyond infancy. 

Even in countries where the infant mortality is lowered by
White-provided medicine, non-Whites still have an exploding birthrate
which continues to flood their already overpopulated lands.  However,
in no White country is there an overpopulation problem due to the
White births, even in poor White sections.  

Overpopulation is a non-White problem, not a White problem.   

And that only begs the question:  how come White lands are generally
wealthy and non-White lands are generally poor?   Are you going to
blame that on "racism" too?  Africa has a WEALTH of natural resources
it is just SQUANDERING.  The only reason for the disparity in quality
between White lands and non-White lands is the inherent deficiencies
of Blacks to solve their own problems.    

>Also in those countries, the religion often opposes birth 
>control--Catholic and Muslim alike--even though surveys have shown that 
>the women would gladly accept birth control if it were available.

They hand out condoms in Africa by the baleful.  It hasn't done SQUAT
to halt the reproductive habits of those people.  AIDS is still on the
rise there.  And the population there is still exploding.
Environmental factors are not the end-all reason, nor are they even
the dominant reason for the high non-White birthrate.

>Just curious: in your philosophy, what is the status of women, other than 
>as breeders?  What makes you think that this will appeal to women with an 
>IQ higher than their shoe size?  Think what that will do to your race.

If an individual woman wants to be a corporate raider or a
knife-fighter, that is fine by me.  What is important is for Whites to
gain control of their people and re-emphasize the proper role of the
woman in our society as mother and nurturer, rather than the
destructive, feminist image which they are encouraged to conform to.
Otherwise, the race will be destroyed by negative White birthrates.

>Trouble is, there ain't no New World Order, so I just don't know who to 
>be a lacky to.  I keep applying. . . 

You're already doing a superb job of it, Mr. Byington.   Just sit
there, keep watching the Jew-tube, and keep believing whatever you're
told!  You make a wonderful citizen of the NWO!

Happy watching!

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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anndaltyn@aol.com (AnnDaltyn) wrote:


>In article <846866883$21703@atype.com>, ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) writes:

>>In article <846803921$16641@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>>writes:
>>
>>>Please give just ONE INSTANCE of NA people "lying" as you have so
>>>accused.  
>>
>>every time they post to the newsgroup.  netnazis also aren't real bright
>>about avoiding obvious setups...
>>
>>Arlin H. Adams

>Arlin you are a fool who not only steps in it quite often but is full of
>it.  Your assertion that NA members have lied in their posts to MAM is
>ridiculous and you know it.  But Arlin it is so obvious that you are
>running scared.  You immediately deny the truths posted by NA members no
>matter what they are.  You seem to not pick your fights very well.  You
>make up the silliest stories no matter how crazy they sound just so you
>can tack on some BS about how something so obviously is true is false. 
>You post stupid one or two liners at the end of every NA post you can
>find.  Some times even 3 or 4 in a row to the same post.  Arlin must like
>seeing his "name" come up on his computer.  

>Every time Arlin posts he loses what ever credibility or cover he has
>previously acquired.  You rant, you burst out in vile diatribe, you make
>up silly scenarios and bizarre conspiracy theories.  Arlin, it seems you
>ARLIN need the NA to make you feel important.  Kind of sad existence
>sitting around waiting for orders from one of your employers.  So "Arlin"
>it looks like you feel quantity and not quality are important when posting
>on usenet.  You parrot the Nizcor line, you even cut and past such BS. 
>You have proven your posts to be that of a pattern of negative rhetoric no
>matter what you are commenting on.  If we were to post that your real name
>was Arlin H. Adams you would go ahead with your silly pattern and call us
>liars and deny  that that is your name.  Strange habits you have Arlin,
>very revealing.

>If there are still any lurkers who even read your posts once they see
>ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) in the header they are sure to just see them for
>what they are Fluff and Stomp posts.  You can not refute the truth the NA
>posters have provided other MAM readers.  So you have sunk lower than you
>were months ago to now scrambling back with silly quips and goofy made up
>stories.  You are a sick and sad man(?). 

>Arlin is a trumpeter for those who database and monitor MAM and want to
>use it against you.  Arlin you are the kind of creature the media loves to
>lambaste and display.  Arlin you are the kind of simp that is wrong with
>the militias.  Arlin is a trouble maker.  Arlin invited the Nizcor
>corporation to infest MAM.  What’s the matter Arlin having trouble
>suppressing the truth all on your own so you had to call in the
>professional traitors.  Don't act like you did MAM a favor, because
>everyone who has to slop through all the negative posts, the death
>threats, the lies, the stupid one line baseless posts, the non substantive
>swill should think of Arlin every time their download time is longer,
>there bills are higher and for the sheer bandwidth being wasted. 

>MAM ask yourselves why "Arlin" has the need to post to MAM almost 300 or
>more posts a week.  If you check them out you will see that they are all
>garbage posts.  They are short stupid remarks to other militia members,
>ranting about silliness and general nasty behavior to all concerned and
>repeated shadowing of NA posts.  Looks like Arlin is running scared.  Why
>else would he not trust MAM members to have the intelligence and sense to
>judge other posters as well as NA members posts for themselves.  Arlin
>doesn’t think his lies can hold the test of time so he repeatedly shadows
>every NA post to tell you what to think.  Hey Arlin I and many of us on
>this list already have a “big brother” we don’t need you trying to dictate
>the flow of this group.  This is not
>rec.militia.arlin.gets-his-jollies.paid for.

>If you review the Charter for MAM you will see that there is a way that
>MAM can get rid of such disturbances as Arlin.   I call for a vote to get
>the 8 initial votes needed to ban Arlin from MAM until he can learn to be
>a productive member of MAM.  MAM should be a place to share info, ideas,
>and educate each other to the harsh realities around us.  Arlin is just a
>negative influence on the list and his posts clutter up the NG everyday.


EXCELLENT!!!!!!

Brian Smith



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militia-request@atype.com wrote:



>In article <846756183$13371@atype.com> mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney) writes:
>> More Death Threats From the Freedom-Loving Marxist Militia:

>If you believe Mike's message to be an actual death threat, then you could
>try to have him prosecuted, say under 18 U.S.C.s 875(c).

>You'd be unlikely to succeed, however.  Judge Cohn, in rendering his
>opinion in the Jake Baker case, stated:

>------

>The only extended discussion of the constitutional dimension of the "true
>threat" requirement with regard to $ 875(c) is found in United States
>v. Kelner, 534 F.2d 1020 (2d Cir.), cert. denied, 429 U.S. 1022 (1976). In
>Kelner, the Second Circuit drew on Watts to illuminate the constitutional
>limits of a prosecution under $ 875(c):

>The purpose and effect of the Watts constitutionally-limited definition of the
>term "threat" is to insure that only unequivocal, unconditional and specific
>expressions of intention immediately to inflict injury may be punished--only
>such threats, in short, as are of the same nature as those threats which are
>. . . "properly punished every day under statutes prohibiting extortion,
>blackmail and assault without consideration of First Amendment issues." Watts,
>402 F.2d at 690.

>------

>The alleged threat:

>> >Arlin wasn't trying to threaten you, he was just trying to warn a
>> >treasonous rat about the concept of exterminators.  Now if it was me, well
>> >I might directly threaten you, if I didn't have something else in mind

>David Hollingsworth, operator of moderation robot, misc.activism.militia
>militia-request@atype.com

Mr. Hollingsworth, 

I respectfully ask you:

1)   Is threatening someone else "OK" with you as long as the threat
is "legally" phrased?

2)   Are you saying that the obviously ominous content of the message
("I might threaten you directly if I didn't have SOMETHING ELSE in
mind)  plus the fact it was e-mailed to Ian personally, does not
constitute a threat? 

Sincerely,

Brian Smith 
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pgissource@aol.com (PGISSource) wrote:

>Which is it, you fine examples of "White European" commie superiority?

The Wizard of Communism!!

Have are you Nizkor buddies doing these days?  Have you been to the
ADL luncheon this week, Wizard?

The Wizard of Communism's e-mail address, by the way, is listed to the
Nizkor site.  Beyond being a mere Marxist, the Wizard is in bed with
the Nizkor people, who are the brothers of the gun-grabbing ADL of
course.  

Boy that Wizard sure keeps up on his Marxist connections, don't he?

Brian Smith
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pgissource@aol.com (PGISSource) wrote:

>An interesting question, Brian. Maybe you could also apply it to your
>fellow commie Bok's post mentioned above? After all, it seems quite
>threatening.

Why it's the Commie Wizard, popping up fresh from his head studies of
more Marxist phillosophy.  The Wizard of Communism is reading again,
for the 10th time, "How to be a Better Egalitarian" by Karl Marx!

>Consider tht if we accept your tearful hysteria about threats then there
>would be even greater basis to go after the National Alliance commie club,
>wouldn't there? The alleged threats that you whine about are largely
>within a theoretical construct of a society in revolution. On the other
>hand, Bok's threat is contextual in the here and now.  In terms of that
>here and now, groups believing as you do are known for commiting assaults
>and murders. Thus there is a far greater reasonable expectation of
>endangerment from the words of your people.

Evidently your Commie-Marxist fixations have rendered you incapable of
correctly noting the sequence of facts.  Kleim, as usual, threatened
FIRST:  saying quite cryptically: 

"deal with them....   In the most effective way."   

But using classic Marxist doublethink, The Wizard of Communism OMITTED
Kleim's original statement and only posted the reply by the BOK.   

Nice bit of cutting and pasting there by the Wizard of Communism, no?

Straight out of the New Stalinist Institute for Propaganda no doubt!!

Brian Smith
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pgissource@aol.com (PGISSource) wrote:


>In article <847009994$10634@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>Arleen, it's interesting that noone on the White patriot side 
>>has threatened militia members as a whole in any way 
>>whatsoever, yet you make open threats of "dealing with" 
>>White patriots in summary fashion.


>On Tue, 29 Oct 96 3:18:14 GMT, bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton
>Kleim) wrote:

>>>When I was doing my pernicious work for the "movement," there was one
>>>thing I hated most: 
>>>
>>>A good moderator.
>>>
>>>Deal with them...in the most effective way.
>>>
>>>-- Milton John Kleim, Jr.


>In article <846969491$5755@atype.com>, thebok@dreamon.com (The Bok)
>threatened in response:

>> I hear that the world is a small place. I hope it is.


>Sounds like a threat to me, and one very consistent with the violent
>history of your type of, uh, people. I think you need to quit quivering,
>smooth your skirt, fix your lipstick, and move on to a different topic.

The Wizard of Communism, in classic Stalinist doublethink, is saying
the cryptic statement by Kleim, who has already declared his intention
of DESTROYING White patriots (See Deja News, posted in
alt.revisionism, limit search for the last 2 months), writes:

"Deal with them....  In the most effective way."    

And the Wizard of Communism claims that is not a threat.

Yet how quick the Wizard of Communism is to see a threat in the REPLY
to Kleim's initial threat:  "I hear the world is a small place.  I
hope it is."  

The Wizard of Communism sure has quite a selective analysis, no?  What
can you expect from someone who keeps denying his own Marxism!!

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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pgissource@aol.com (PGISSource) wrote:

>I must have your little commie group really scared, eh?

Interesting!!  The Wizard of Communism is confronted with the fact
that his e-mail address is listed to Nizkor, a member of the same
coalition which includes the Southern Poverty Law Center and the
gun-grabbing ADL.  And the Wizard of Communism DOESN'T deny it!   

No wonder he wants his Marxism kept under cover!  

I hear the Nizkor people pay well these days, Commie-Wizard!!  I hear
they'll double your salary if you come on as an anti-gun proponent!  

Knowing the Wizard of Communism, he'd probably do it for free!   A
true Marxist ideologue!!   

And don't bother trying to spy on an NA meeting either, Commie-Wizard.
If they found out you were a Marxist, you'd be thrown out on your ear
faster than you could quote Lenin's revolutionary slogan!!

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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Lissa Valerian  wrote:

>> Hoo boy!  Here comes Lissa Valerian again, carrying the Clintonista
>> banner!

>If your "Clintonista Banner"=Constitution, well then, I guess I am waving
>the Constitutional Banner.  But you have some really strange names for the
>Constitution.

Boy, that Lissa just KEEP DODGING the question whether she wants to
allow Satanists into her organization!

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"The name's Lissa.  And I want EVERYBODY to get involved in my
Clintonista Coalition -- queers, freaks, and loons -- all EXCEPT
normal, healthy White men and women who care about their race!!"




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cutter001@aol.com (Cutter 001) wrote:

>Sorry arleen but nice try, however, I am proud...of
>my people, my culture, and my ethnicity.  It that is "hateful", if that is
>"racism", it that makes me a "Nazi" in your eyes then so be it.

Anyone who doesn't ascribe to the anti-White Clintonista
multiracialism of Arlin is immediately called a "Nazi."  Who cares?
Arlin's words are worth about much as dirt, as he hands them out so
frequently and indiscriminately!

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"The name's Arlin.  And I'll open my mouth about ANYTHING!!"



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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>Dear Brian/Kurt,

>Perhaps you didn't see my original post on this thread.  Or perhaps
>you don't know enough about genetics to realise the utter idiocy of
>Les Griswold's suggestion that a "stable White genotype" is a 
>desirable thing.

Dear Laura/Annie.  I don't speak for Les Griswold or anyone but
myself, thank you.  

Brian Smith
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mpitcava@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark T Pitcavage) wrote:

>Whenever I think the Nazis could not possibly get more sick and disgusting, 
>they outdo themselves.

Whatever Mr. Pitcavage.  You're a slave to the morality of political
correctness and wouldn't DARE even think a heretical thought.  I find
YOUR moral values disgusting.

Brian Smith
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:

>>No, you don't understand.  Eyewitnesses claimed in GREAT DETAIL that
>>Jews were also killed by electrocution and steaming, and that gas
>>chambers existed on German soil.  And all these claims, which served
>>to hang Germans at Nuremberg, have now ALL been found false and
>>quietly dropped!!   

>It is, it should come as no surprise, Mr. Smith who does not
>understand.

>No German was hung because of charges of electrocution, or
>steaming, and yes, gas chambers did exist on German soil.

Even Elie Wiesel admitted this wasn't true Ken.  Geez!

>Mr. Smith, who plays Mr. Stele over in alt.revisionism, knows
>these things as well, but he isn't going to share his knowledge
>with you... why, one must ask, is that?

LOL!  I love it when Nizkor accuses you of being 2 people!  

>Why, one needs ask, isn't Mr. Smith telling you that no-one
>was convicted of electrocution? Why, one needs ask, isn't Mr.
>Smith telling you that no one was convicted of steaming anyone
>to death?

The point is the same witnesses were used!  The testimonies for
gassing has no greater evidence than the testimonies for electrocution
proven false.

>Why, pray tell, isn't Mr. Smith being honest about this? Could
>it be that he doesn't _want_ you folks to know the truth about
>his foolish claims?

Hardly, McVay.  (laughing).   

>Why doesn't he tell you which part of the _judgments_ we must
>turn to to find what the judges determined? I will tell you
>why - because he knows full well that he has lied to you, and
>if you look it up in the judgments, you will know that.

They were hanged for "crimes against humanity."  Those bogus claims
about electrocution also biased the Court as well.

>He knows that if he tells you where to find information about
>allegations of steaming and electrocution, you will quickly
>realize how and why he has lied to you.

Nice try, McVay.

>I don't share Mr. Smith's fear - he's the self-described liar,
>not I, and it is easy to understand why, given the silliness
>offered above.

"Self-described" liar my foot.  Please post where I described myself
as a liar.  I'm waiting now.   

YOU are the liar, Mr. McVay.

>Nizkor doesn't share Mr. Smith's fear of the truth, either.
>That's why we're slowly putting all 68 volumes of the IMT
>documentation and testimony on the web... when we are done,
>Mr. Smith's lies will blow away like the summer's dust at the
>first fall rain. 

And as soon as the number of people aware of the Holocaust Hoax
reaches critical mass, the expensive Lie will disintegrate!

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
http://www.codoh.com/
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
http://www.air-photo.com/
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html

>Try http://www.nizkor.org/search.html - search for steam and
>electrocution, and determine the truth for yourself. Mr. Smith
>won't like that, but I won't mind.

Search the revisionist sites for how the bogus claims of electrocution
and steaming were made!   And how Jews have already ADMITTED there
were no gas chambers on German soil.  

>Also try http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/imt/nca/nca-01, if you
>would like to learn the source of Mr. Smith's strange
>allegations. You can be certain Mr. Smith won't.

Go to the revisionist sites and see them for yourself McVay. Challenge
yourself.  Take a chance for once.  Go against your Jewish masters for
once, McVay, even if it means perhaps being fired and relegated once
again to gas jockey status.  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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rajiv_gandhi@bc.sympatico.ca (Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:

>Please provide some relevant and verifiable evidence which can support your
>claim that there is an ongoing movement to wipe out the Œwhite¹ race
>(ignoring, for the moment, that there is no such thing as a white race.)

Your parenthetical sentence says it ALL, "Gandhi"!

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"The name's Gandhi.  I can't stand the fact that I'm a mud, that I
don't have a race to speak of except the brown muds of India and
elsewhere who predominantly live in utter filth and reincarnation
superstition.  That the mud people have never rise above the dirt of
the third world to the unsurpassed heights of the White people, is
something I can't STAND!  Therefore I want to deny those racial
differences exist!"



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pgissource@aol.com (PGISSource) wrote:

>And it is you commie crossdressers that quiver in fear while hiding from
>the proof of your commie beliefs, I(v)an.

There goes the Wizard of Communism, projecting his communism on to
everybody else again!  Sorry, Commies NOT ALLOWED in the NA!   All
egalitarianis banned!    You'll have to ply your Marxism somewhere
else!!

>Why don't you straighten your pantyhose, powder your nose, fix your
>lipstick, and then address the issue, eh, little commie crossdresser?

(Yawn)

>People are waiting to hear how it is that you foreign inspired kids feel
>capitalism is a failure, believe in Marxist labor-based economies, love
>collectivism, despise the vote, want to control the arts, intend to limit
>freedom, support an oppressive and controlling state, have contempt for
>religion, argue for an agrarian revolution, believe in the inferiority of
>women, hate the United States, and state that the Constitution is just a
>piece of paper that citizens should not be able to amend but must be
>interpreted by your party ... all without being simple "white"
>euro-commies crossdressing as nationalists.

The NA economic program is a mixed economy,  It is therefore in the
same category as the current U.S. economy:  a balance of free market
forces and and govenment regulations.  However, the DIFFERENCE is that
the NA's goal is not capitalism but racial progress.   

Our views far bettter reflect and pursue the goals of our racialist
Founding Fathers (who were MEN, not commie-egaliatarians like YOU
Commie-Wizard who defends the rights of queers and Satanists to join
the militia) far better than your Clintonian multiracialism.   

Now fer landsakes' put down your Marxist primer and pick up a history
book!

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"Jefferson's vision of the future America--after the hypothetical
abolition of slavery by the slaveowners themselves--is a lily-white
one. All the ex-slaves are to be deported to Africa. In the meantime,
free blacks have to be eliminated from Virginia." 

The Long Affair: Thomas Jefferson and the French Revolution, 1785-1800
Conor Cruise O'Brien Cloth, 384 pages, pp. 301-25




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ad654@seorf.ohiou.edu (Janet Littler) wrote:

>Ann,
>I read part of the Turner Diaries. I only read part because I became so
>nauseated, I could not continue.
>Not only is it obxonious tripe, but it is so poorly written that it is
>surprising that Dr. Pierce managed to pass freshman comp. 
>Save the garbage for the trashman. Please refrain from posting it here.
>Janet

Well, that's interesting Janet.  I've read books which have espoused
YOUR philosophy of egalitarianism and race-mixing to dissolve the
White race and replace with a Negroid mulatto one.  And I can attest
that YOUR views make make ME want to throw up!

Brian Smith
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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:


>In article <846223429$4583@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>Who CARES!!  

>Yo! Peter! I think you scared him!

>Arlin Adams

Arlin, your mental age must be around 12 years old -- at BEST!!

Brian Smith
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pgissource@aol.com (PGISSource) wrote:


>In article <846990306$8077@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>He values feminine
>>passivity as some sort of moral superiority

>think about this statement, Ann Daltyn. Then consider the articles saying
>your brain is 10% smaller than Brian's. Do you -really- want to be just
>kept as a toy? These kids won't stop with the blacks and Jews, you know.

>In article <846990317$8101@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>I already have my beliefs, thank you.  And I have made those quite
>>clear.  

>yep ... especially your love for marxist economics, hatred for the
>constitution, and contempt for the United States.

The Wizard of Communism is still a little defensive about his
Marxist-egalitarian views.   His defensiveness prompts him to project
his own communism on other people!   The only people in WWII who
fought communists WERE White nationalists, of course.  Mr. Wizard's
designation of White nationalism as communism completely destroys his
credibility to any person with even a small knowledge of history!  I
love it every time the Wizard of Communism shoots himself in the foot!

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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"Hummer"  wrote:

>     Rebel Forces ?  I guess that either makes you Princess Leigh or C3PO. 
>The heart throb for the other nazis at the Friday night stag party or the
>robot with Winnie the Poohs' brain.  It's strange how you guys see
>yourselves as a noble minority fighting against a much larger movement
>while at the same time supporting a system that would eliminate minorities.

White racial separatism is our goal, not the elimination of other
races.  However, the multiracialism YOU espouse DOES promote and seek
the genocide of the White race.  And you have "no problem" with that I
see.

> I guess logical contradictions are a bit difficult for you to grasp.  You
>should be quite happy that this newsgroup will use your own approach to
>dealing with inferior minorities.  Ban them.  Why is that a good idea when
>you want to ban entire portions of the population but not a good idea here
>?  Don't like your own solution to the situation when its' applied to you ?
> Don't have enough pure genes to keep from whining about minority rights ? 
>Should we start an affirmative action program for nazis ?  Maybe we can get
>all of you the high level jobs you're qualified for like beating farts out
>of bus seats or something.

The current Affirmative Action programs discriminate AGAINST White
applicants that are more qualified.  And that's OK with you too,
right?

>     Since you intend to take the nation over for your fine feathered
>friends, please let me know how you'll do that without any bans.  Are you
>intending to use Der Fudkers' tactics in order to take power or just hang
>around and feel oppressed until you can move to another country where they
>don't mind addle brained nazis ?  I guess "Soud Afrik" going down the tubes
>really broke your heart, didn't it ?  

South Africa is INDEED going down the tubes under Black rule, as
anybody could have predicted.   Crime has increased 10 fold and the
infrastructure is already being steadily brought down.

>It's a shame you couldn't have moved
>over there so that your pure blood could have halted the tide of the great
>unwashed from taking over.  I bet you blame that on Hasidic diamond
>merchants, right ?  

As you correctly guessed, Jews were in the vanguard of the movement to
destroy the White government in South African.   That was an easy
guess though.

>It couldn't possibly have been all those "lesser" black
>folks wanting to be free, now could it ?  Why don't you guys rent a boat
>and go down that way and straighten it all out ?  You can probably find a
>lot of friends down there and then we can read about how well you do when
>you come up against some inferior Zulus.  What say ?  You don't like this
>country, why not leave and take one for yourself ?  All of Africa awaits
>your superior white rule and from what you say it, taking it away from all
>those inferiors would be a walk over.  

Actually, an armed White force against ANY armed Black one, even one
with far greater numbers, has ALWAYS been a walk-over.  It is that the
White man VOLUNTARILY lets himself be defeated and destroyed, and
divested of his lands, because of the White guilt and self-hatred the
Jewish media pumps into him.

Brian Smith
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Lissa Valerian  wrote:

>"Difference of opinion leads to enquiry, and enquiry to truth; and I
>am sure...we both value too much the freedom of opinion sanctioned
>by our Constitution, not to cherish its exercise even where in
>opposition to ourselves." --Thomas Jefferson to Mr. Wendover,
>1815.

To show how Lissa Valerian, the great avowed homosexual advocate,
continues to take Jefferson's quotes OUT OF CONTEXT, and that
Jefferson's quotes were to apply to WHITE PEOPLE ONLY:

"Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate than that these
people [the Blacks] are to be free; nor is it less certain that the
two races, equally free, cannot live in the same government. Nature,
habit, opinion have drawn indelible lines of distinction between them.
It is still in our power to direct the process of emancipation and
deportation, peaceably, and in such slow degree, as that the evil will
wear off insensibly, and their place be ...filled up by free White
laborers. If, on the contrary, it is left to force itself on, human
nature must shudder at the prospect held up."  

"Jefferson's vision of the future America--after the hypothetical
abolition of slavery by the slaveowners themselves--is a lily-white
one. All the ex-slaves are to be deported to Africa. In the meantime,
free blacks have to be eliminated from Virginia. Jefferson's proposals
for their elimination were too draconian to be stomached even by his
fellow slaveowners (above, chapter 7). His proposed (and rejected)
amendments to the Virginian legal code included a recommendation for
the penalization of what Virginian slaveowners called
'miscegenation.' "

The Long Affair: Thomas Jefferson and the French Revolution, 1785-1800
Conor Cruise O'Brien Cloth, 384 pages, pp. 301-25

Brian Smith
www.natall.com




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pgissource@aol.com (PGISSource) wrote:

>In article <846991205$8369@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>We got one guy, Wizard, who is a Marxist yet keeps 
>>claiming White nationalism is communism.

>not only claims it, but has also proven it. Yet you cowards continue to
>quiver in fear and hide from that proof. Go figure.

>It doesn't matter how much racism you smear on top, the (inter) NATIONAL
>(commie) ALLIANCE is nothing but a commie front group. Period and proven

The Wizard of Communism just KEEPS on projecting his communism on
others!  It's kind of sad, Wizard.   You really should just accept
your Marxist egalitarianism like a man and proceed from there.  You
only give your away even more!  BTW say hello to your Nizkor buddies!
Tell 'em NA ISN'T going to let them have their way with commie-style
gun grabbing without a fight!  The Constitution was written by White
racial men with assault rifles, and despite the designs of the Wizard
of Communism and his Nizkor buddies, we aren't buying!!  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"Jefferson's vision of the future America--after the hypothetical
abolition of slavery by the slaveowners themselves--is a lily-white
one. All the ex-slaves are to be deported to Africa. In the meantime,
free blacks have to be eliminated from Virginia." 
 
The Long Affair: Thomas Jefferson and the French Revolution, 1785-1800
Conor Cruise O'Brien Cloth, 384 pages, pp. 301-25




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pgissource@aol.com (PGISSource) wrote:

>I think National Alliance's economic philosophy is pretty clear, isn't it?
>This is the old siren song of commie ideas straight down the line and
>proven not only by your words, Bok and Brian, but even the (Inter)
>National (commie) Alliance's own propaganda. Yet what is scarier is that
>your words indicate a far more radical commie philosophy than what the
>propaganda itself shows.

>Mr. Wizard

The Wizard of Communism efforts to call National Alliance communist is
based on the sole position of economics.  However, as our economic
program makes clear, it is at best a combination of free market market
forces tempered by Governmental regulations to ensure the top priority
of society is racial advancement rather than the enrichment of
individual capitalistc.  It is a "mixed economy" which is the same
category our current U.S. economy fits in, only with a shift in
emphasis and priority.  

However, the Wizard of communism CONTINUES  to hide from his Marxist
egalitarianism, while projecting his communism on other people.  Not
only does it reveal his ignorance of what communism is and its goals
(egalitarianism, workers' united revolution, gun-confiscation, and
government enforced "equality" programs like Affirmative Action).   It
reveals his inability to be honest about his own beliefs.  Not
surprisinngly, The Wizard of Communism keeps his Nizkor/Southern
Poverty Law Center connections quite close, listing his e-mail address
to Nizkor. 

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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pkasieck@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Philip Kasiecki) wrote:

>    I know a helluva lot more about humans than I know about dogs (even
>though I had one, though that was until I was about 3 or 4).  I don't
>know about dogs, but I know that humans can't be so simply classified.

Races possess a host of differing traits.  In addition, I have seen
the same traits exhibited by members of the same race, consistently --
>from  obvious ones to very subtle ones, in my experience.  Racial truth
indeed does exist and it essential for Whites as a people to believe
their common sense about race!  

>: There are differences between the races

>    Differences besides skin color, yes, but that is *the* main factor
>for those who care to define people by that.  The only reason I do so is
>because others just have this thing where they have to know, "is so-and-
>so White or Black?"

There are far more differences than skin color.  You evidently think
there can be such a huge difference in skin color yet there can exist
no other differences besides ONE physical difference.  There is no
basis whatsoever for that position.   If there exists dramatic
differences in appearance, that obviously can also exist racial
differences internally as well.

>: in intelligence, inventive talent,

>    Ah, yes, another Bell Curve junkie... that's *extremely* debateable,
>on every level of the discussion, I might add...

The African's inability to produce or sustain advanced technological
civilization only drives the point home further.

>: I value and love my race.

>    Are you that hard up, that you love something that doesn't even
>exist?

If my race does not exist to you, that is of no consequence to me.

>: I value White national community which is essential to White health,
>: but is impossible under multiracialism.  I value progress towards
>: evolutionary heights; multiracialism mixes Whites with races lacking
>: their talents, and breeds Whites out of existence and replaces them
>: with a mixed-up mud race incapable of maintaining the same values and
>: level of advancement.  

>    Bullshit.  Perhaps you'd like to comment on the many poor White
>neighborhoods across the country that are crime-ridden and in awful
>states.  While you're at it, what do you think of the non-White middle-
>class neightborhoods that are in good condition.  And don't even think
>of calling Black people invaders, because it was *WHITE* folks who 
>brought African slaves over here, against their will.  If we had
>separate nations, there would still be hate- people like you are full
>of it, and you'd still hate people.  There would be other divisions that
>would be perpetuated as well, but of course, you didn't know that, being
>the clueless soul that you are.

Again, poor White neighborhoods have only a FRACTION of the crime
found in poor Black neighborhoods.

Brian Smith
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John Mitchell  wrote:

>You might try reading reading Stephen Jay Gould's "Mismeasure of Man" and 
>Steve Jones's "The Language of Genes". The so called races have no 
>scientific basis. Anyways, the achievements of individual scientists and 
>mathematicians belong soley to themselves and not to their so called 
>"races", religion or whatever.

You should read Dr. Baker's _Race_ and distinguished Harvard
geneticist Ruggles _Pedigrees of Negro Families_.  The liberal myth
that races do not exist is a great canard of political correctness.
The differences are both obvious to the naked eye and inheres in
various genetic markers and disease immunities.  

Brian Smith
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atticus@mindspring.com (Andy Walton) wrote:

>In article <55e5tm$9uo@opera.iinet.net.au>, reverend@iinet.net.au wrote:

>  :Eventually they [Jews in Israel]
>  :outnumbered the Arabs to the point that they can massacre them at
>  :will.

>As much as I hate to annoy you with facts...

>Population, 1995 (est.)

>  Israel -- 5,433,134

>Ethnic divisions: Jewish 82%, Africa born 7%, Asia born
>5%, non-Jewish 18% (mostly Arab) (1993 est.) 

>Hence, the jewish population of Israel is about 4,455,170.

>-------

>Arabs in Israel -- 977,964
>West Bank --     1,319,991
>Gaza Strip --      813,322
>SUBTOTAL --      3,111,277 Arabs in Israel and the occupied territories.
>                ----------
>Egypt --        56,123,661 
>Syria --        13,906,725
>Jordan --        3,772,652
>Lebanon --       2,587,145
>TOTAL --        76,390,183

>Source: CIA World Factbook
>(http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/95fact/index.html)

>Note: I subtracted non-Arabs from each predominately-Arab country's
>population. (e.g. Kurds in Iraq). When in doubt, I used the most
>conservative estimate; in the cases of Syria and Lebanon, I also
>subtracted the substantial Arab Christian population. I also omitted
>nations like Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq, which do not share a border
>with Israel. (And Iranians are Persians, not Arabs, but that's a minor
>point.)

>Conclusion: in territory they control, Israeli Jews outnumber Arabs
>roughly 4:3. Among Israel and its immediate neighbors, Arabs outnumber
>Israeli Jews roughly 19:1.

>You were saying?

He was saying that Jews massacre Arabs at will.   It's true.  Jews can
do whatever they want to Palestinians, torture them, shoot dead their
children, and no lackey in Congress will DARE even suggest that the
aid to Israel be cut.   If White South Africans did the above, they
would be universally condemned, because it would be Whites mistreating
non-Whites.  However, Jews can commit atrocity after atrocity against
Palestinian civilians and the media hardly slaps them on the wrist! 

This is very explainable anyway:  the Jews control the media too!

Brian Smith
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pgissource@aol.com (PGISSource) wrote:

>In article <847049592$12180@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>Evidently your Commie-Marxist fixations have rendered you incapable of
>>correctly noting the sequence of facts.  Kleim, as usual, threatened
>>FIRST:  saying quite cryptically: 
>>
>>"deal with them....   In the most effective way." 

>First, little commie, whether he threatened or not does not negate Bok's
>own threat. Secondly within the context of what Kleim wrote, it isn't
>necessarily a threat since it could apply to simply working with the
>moderator. The point here, little commie, was to establish that you
>kiddies do indeed threaten.

Fine.  I could say the same about BOK's response that it wasn't a
threat, that if the world is a small place, then perhaps Milton Kleim
will be in contact with more and more White patriots who can discuss
issues further with him and maybe point out errors in Mr. Kleim's
reasoning.   Obviously "deal with them.....(dramatic dot dot dot) in
the most effective way" is far more obvious a threat than the response
was.  

>>Straight out of the New Stalinist Institute for Propaganda no doubt!!

>I wouldn't know ... that's your field of study, commie.

How's that book you're reading, Commie-Wizard:  "How to be the BEST
Marxist egalitarian you can BE!" treatin' ya?

(snicker)

Brian Smith
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pgissource@aol.com (PGISSource) wrote:

>Kleim's statement is basically irrelevant to the proof that you kiddies
>have threatened people. It only potentially explains -why- you threatened.

Garbage.   You have given NO evidence of any threat at all. 

>taa, taa, little crossdressing commie.

Errr, right.  Actually it is your Marxist egalitarianism which defends
the rights of queers to join the Militia!  However, those kinds of
people are BANNED (as are commies like you) from the NA!  

Happy fag-recruiting, Marxist commie!

Brian Smith
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mpitcava@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark T Pitcavage) wrote:


>In article <847001025$9955@atype.com>, Brian Smith  wrote:
>>
>>mpitcava@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark T Pitcavage) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <846964991$5139@atype.com>, Brian Smith  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>The Holocaust is a Lie.  Extermination by gassing never occurred.  The
>>>>crematoria was used as crematoria for dead people, just as designed.
>>>>The insecticide Zyklon B was used as an insecticide, just as
>>>>manufactured.
>>
>>>>
>>>>The Holocaust ask you to believe in a series of irregular uses for
>>>>prosaic, sanitational devices, like crematoria and delousing fumigant,
>>>>without ANY proof whatsoever for these claims.  The entire Holocaust
>>>>Lie was created by anti-German war propaganda and presented against
>>>>the Germans as "evidence" at the Nuremberg kangaroo Court.  The
>>>>ridiculous claims for which the Germans were hanged, such as the
>>>>deaths by electrocution, steaming, and a secret laser device to "zap"
>>>>Jews, have all been quietly dropped.   All but a few of these claims
>>>>have been abandoned because the evidence against them is overwhelming
>>>>and the evidence for them is non-existent.
>>
>>>This is all very funny.  If the Holocaust was a lie concocted by anti-Germans
>,
>>>can you tell me how come there are extensive -German-  records showing
>>>how Reserve Order Police Battalion 101--a tiny unit of less than 500 men--in
>a
>>>space of just a couple years murdered tens of thousands of Jews directly and
>>>transported tens more of thousands to Treblinka?
>>
>>>Can you furthermore tell me how it is that not only German wartime records sh
>ow
>>>this, but also the postwar testimony of the battalion's own members?
>>
>>>And that's just -one- tiny unit.
>>
>>Let us begin this discussion.   Now, are you referring to what is
>>called the Einsatzgruppen?

>No.  A unit in the Ordnungspolizei.

What's your primary source, under whose command was this battalion,
and what is the IMT document number.  There are so many lies and
exaggerations in the Holocaust Hoax you have to be very specific.  

Brian Smith
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smaceach@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Scott MacEachern) wrote:

>And keep it up, by all means. The more people you have pissed off at
>you, the better I like it. 

"Liberal social scientist" (i.e., witch doctor) Scott MacEachern has
both sides pissed off at him now!

Brian Smith
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pgissource@aol.com (PGISSource) wrote:


>In article <847046890$12031@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>Despite the Christian lickspittle

>and again the little red Brian commie shows the high contempt he and his
>fellow National Alliance commies have for religion.

The Wizard of Communism!  How are your liasons with Nizkor , the ADL,
and the Southern Poverty Law going these days?   You should read about
the ADL's gun-banning drive on the National Alliance website.  We know
all about commie people you are in bed with, Wizard.  You'll have to
work harder.  We're not giving in to your commie gun-grabbing bed
buddies!

Brian Smith
www.natal.com

"The name is Mr. Wizard -- the Wizard of Communism.  Truth be
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rajiv_gandhi@bc.sympatico.ca (Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:


>In article <846272958$8452@atype.com>, mchapman@teleport.com (Mike Chapman)
>wrote:

>> rajiv_gandhi@bc.sympatico.ca (Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:
>> >The arms race, and the escalated buildup of weapons has never resulted in
>> >anything but armed conflict and agression.
>> 
>> Better to fight a war than to be made slaves.

>Why is it that the assumption is that if a person doesn¹t fight, they
>become a slave ? It doesn¹t fly. My refusing to fight doesn¹t meant that I
>will willingly drop to lick somebody¹s boots when they demand it.

Go home back to your ancestral home and India and be a passivist
push-over over there.   I'm sure you'll get plenty of sympathy amid
millions of your squalid, brown brothers rotting on the fly-ridden
sidewalks in "ecstacies" of pacificism!  No thanks  "Gandhi"!   

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>>Once again, the distinction can only be based on behavior at this
>>point in time.  However, the behavior of Jews, as demonstrated by
>>CENTURIES of activity, makes it quite clear that having Jews in his
>>society is LETHAL to the European!  Jewish behavior and activity make
>>Jews totally incompatible with the European race.  It's taken us well
>>over 10 centuries to figure this one out, but I think we know now!!

>Well this is a most interesting example of furious backpedalling if I
>ever saw one.  You appear to be withdrawing your prior claim about the
>"racial status" of Jews now and resorting to a sort of weird behavioural/
>historical argument to justify your antisemitism, instead.  That is what
>this is, of course, good ol' antisemitism.  And while you're at it, what
>in hell is the "European race"?  

Jews are mostly Khazarian, are therefore from Asia and can be
identified by their Khazarian features and certain diseases and by
genetic markers, such as Tay-Sachs.  The European race refers to a
broad definition used to describe a people who alone produced a
certain culture.  That race will be defined by a list of various
traits for the broad category of Whites.  It can also be detected
through genetic markers in the blood if needed.   

European nationalists will very have few problems distinguishing
between Whites and non-Whites.  Obviously, skin color and facial
features play a large part.  Obviously, a Black skinned person or
person with obvious Negro blood in him will NOT be considered
"European."   Tough-to-call ones can be made on a case by case basis.
It likely will not  be difficult, especially considering that obvious
questionables will have little interest in taking part in a new White
state.

It is European separatists by whom the definition of the White race is
to be utilized.   Those details can be worked out later based a list
of traits based on Black and othe non-White archetypes.

>>I talked a geneticist last year, a casual conversation, and he says
>>there already EXISTS genetic markers for the stereotypical Jew, i.e.,
>>the Slavo-Turkic Ashkenazi type.   Also, recently, breast cancer was
>>found to be a Jewish-linked trait in Ashkenazis.   The problem is,
>>these facts are politically incorrect, so they are not investigated
>>further.

>Genetic markers for the "stereotypical Jew"?  Ummmmm, what about the
>majority of Jews who don't look anything like the stereotype, Mr. Stele?
>Ooops, I mean Smith.  

(Yawn).  This is a typical Nizkor accusation.   Everyone who posts
against the Jewish line is really 3 other people.   

>There does seem to be a somewhat higher risk for
>breast cancer among women of Ashkenazi descent.  There is also a higher
>risk among women who have never born children, women whose mother or 
>mother's sister had breast cancer (irrespective of national origin),
>and a whole bunch of other things.  In fact, the various factors involved
>in the etiology of breast cancer are being investigated further.  But
>a slightly higher risk of breast cancer hardly constitutes a genetic
>marker for a "racial" group.  Unless it's a single-sex race.   

There are other markers too, such as for Tay-Sachs.  Once again,
differentiation will not be prohibitively difficult.  At any rate,
Jewish customs and influence will have no place in any future White
state, as we now know such involvement is destructive and incompatible
with White survival.

>Usury contradicts the mores and soul of the White racial community????
>Gee I wish you'd tell that to my bank manager.  Maybe they'd let me off
>on my mortgage.  Weren't Europe's monarchs at the time "White"?  What
>about their mores and values, since they were supposedly protecting
>the moneylenders?  

I am referring to Whites in White-value societies, i.e., when Whites
are permitted to live alone according to their traditional values, as
demonstrated by past White societies.  The White people as a whole in
those societies opposed usury of course, but the monarchy was "bought
off" by Jews.  

However, I don't wish to discuss White values with a Jew as that would
be waste of time.  If you are convinced these don't exist, that is
fine and of no consequence to me.  

>>Yes.  The Jewishness of Jews is VERY determinative.  These people
>>weren't just "incidentally" Jewish.  That Jews dominate finance in
>>every country they aren't THROWN OUT OF is not "just an accident."

>Excuse me?  The majority of Jews in eastern Europe until the outbreak
>of World War II were relatively poor people living in small towns and
>engaged in small businesses.  Jews of north African countries hardly
>dominated those countries' finances, nor did/do Jews in South American
>countries.  

The Jewish establishment stll possess huge international power,
regardless of the average income of Jews in Europe (which were still
disproportionately high).  

>>The Jewish phenomenon is a combination of BOTH genetic and cultural
>>forces.

>So are you arguing that a slightly higher risk of breast cancer promotes
>an interest in financial management?  Hey, here is an interesting 
>hypothesis.  The gene that causes breast cancer in women causes high
>finance in men.  With apologies to anyone who might take offence.
>I know that breast cancer is no laughing matter.  

Whatever, Laura.  Obfuscate all you wish.

>>Chosen Ones, that they are to rule the goyim, and that the goyim are
>>inferior to them.  

>This is not my understanding of the meaning of the phrase "Chosen people".
>I had always understood that it meant "chosen to carry the word of G-d
>to all others", rather than "special" or "superior".  I've heard that
>canard about "shrewdness" being selected for with centuries of living
>in countries where pogroms erupted periodically.  Funny, that.  The
>centuries old strategy of "riding out the storm" nearly resulting in
>the decimation of Europe's Jews in the last world war, though.

You glibly discard Jewish shrewdness as a "canard" however, if you
asked around even today in our politically correct society, honest
people would reflect this same stereotype of the "pushy Jew" and that
"Jews stick together."  I find that compelling.  You can fool most of
the people only some of the time with politically correct propaganda,
but people can eventually see through it and draw their own
conclusions.

Brian Smith
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mpitcava@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark T Pitcavage) wrote:

>In article <846964991$5139@atype.com>, Brian Smith  wrote:
>>
>>The Holocaust is a Lie.  Extermination by gassing never occurred.  The
>>crematoria was used as crematoria for dead people, just as designed.
>>The insecticide Zyklon B was used as an insecticide, just as
>>manufactured.

>>
>>The Holocaust ask you to believe in a series of irregular uses for
>>prosaic, sanitational devices, like crematoria and delousing fumigant,
>>without ANY proof whatsoever for these claims.  The entire Holocaust
>>Lie was created by anti-German war propaganda and presented against
>>the Germans as "evidence" at the Nuremberg kangaroo Court.  The
>>ridiculous claims for which the Germans were hanged, such as the
>>deaths by electrocution, steaming, and a secret laser device to "zap"
>>Jews, have all been quietly dropped.   All but a few of these claims
>>have been abandoned because the evidence against them is overwhelming
>>and the evidence for them is non-existent.

>This is all very funny.  If the Holocaust was a lie concocted by anti-Germans, 
>can you tell me how come there are extensive -German-  records showing
>how Reserve Order Police Battalion 101--a tiny unit of less than 500 men--in a
>space of just a couple years murdered tens of thousands of Jews directly and
>transported tens more of thousands to Treblinka?

>Can you furthermore tell me how it is that not only German wartime records show
>this, but also the postwar testimony of the battalion's own members?

>And that's just -one- tiny unit.

Let us begin this discussion.   Now, are you referring to what is
called the Einsatzgruppen?

Also, please be as specific as possible.  

Brian Smith
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daddison@lville.mindspring.com (Don Addison) wrote:

>>>http://www.mindspring.com/~daddison

>>That's funny.  India used to be an Aryan country.

>>Go figure.

>>Brian Smith
>>www.natall.com

>Lemme see Brian. India was an Aryan country. Aryans migrated north to
>northern Europe, while some stayed in India. Hence your "kin" evolved
>into the blonde haired, blue eyed race we know today. Therefore you
>and the little brown skinned guys in India share a common heritage and
>bloodline. In other words you have cousins in India worshipping Shiva
>and Kali right now, and your precious bloodline is tainted with brown,
>Indo-Aryan-European blood.

(laughing harder than I've EVER laughed on M.A.M.!)   You have it
REVERSED, Mr. Addison.  The Nordic invaders were ALREADY blonde and
blue-eyed.   AFTER they mixed with non-Whites, then they turned brown.


Please tell me you were joking?

Brian Smith
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daddison@lville.mindspring.com (Don Addison) wrote:


>"Bill K."  wrote:


>>Mark T Pitcavage wrote:
>>> 
>>> In article <846843484$19817@atype.com>, Brian Smith  wrote:
>>> >This is inaccurate.  There are Whites of EVERY White sub-ethnicity in
>>> >the ALLIANCE:  Nordics, Mediterraneans, Alpines, Dinarics, and
>>> >Baltics.  The National Alliance is a Pan-Aryan organization.  It
>>> >stands for those of European descent WHEREVER they may be found!
>>> 
>>>  Wow, Nordics, Baltics, Dinarics.  What about Hooked on Phonics?

>>They have obviously never ordered it.
>>Perhaps "Hookers on Hallucinogenics"...

>>-- 
>>=======================================================================
>>Groucho, 
>>1st Armoured Humour Division, 
>>Marx(ist) Militia
>>SIC SEMPER COMICUS ("Death by Laughter", kinda)


>>Usenet is so big, and I'm so small. 
>>email me if I should actually read your words.
>>=======================================================================
>Are those of Pictish descent included in the "European" picture Brian?

Those of the British Isles are included yes.  The Picts were one of
the most colorful of European cultures (in more ways than one).

Brian Smith
www.nattall.com

>Pagan, Patriot, and Proud of both!
>Blessed Be!
>http://www.mindspring.com/~daddison





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mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney) wrote:

>Now the cowards have retreated to the last refuge of scoundrels - CENSORSHIP. 
>However, you cannot really censor me from this NG if I don't want to be 
>censored. I can easily change my ID and come right back. But, what you are 
>actually doing is admitting DEFEAT. Arlin Adams, with all your "thousands" of 
>so-called "militia" members, you have failed to suppress the truth which I 
>and others have spoken. You attempted your mediocre arguments and I shot you 
>down. You tried insults with no effect. Next you tried making physical 
>threats and I laughed at you. You even begged the Jewish-funded traitor McVay 
>and the ego-moniacal Milton Kleim to come save you, and that failed. Finally, 
>you want to censor us.

I've noticed these multiracial militia don't have any unity at all.
They have Jews and Clintonians in their ranks who demand homosexuals
be admitted, which only conflicts with militia people who oppose
homosexuality.  They have Christian militiamen opposed to the
spell-casting religion of Wiccan militia members.  They also have the
goal of being multiracial which fosters further divisions.   

There is no common morality which binds them, no tight cohesive
world-view uniting them beyond a general allegiance to a piece of
paper, their interpretations of which also conflict.  They are a
fractured, splintered, loosely connected movement.   Constantly, they
bicker over differences in religion for example.  You can tell they
are not unified.

A lot of the people who joined militias in response to the
government's unbelievable massacres at Waco and Ruby Ridge had good
intentions and realized something is unspeakably evil with the present
Order, but many of them haven't permitted themselves to view the
problem in terms of race, yet.  However, the racial elements of the
situation will reveal themselves more and more as times goes on.  

A coalition such as the multiracial militia has so much deadweight,
dross, and division that it is hardly perceived by U.S. intelligence
as a real threat.  Instead "the militia threat" is being spuriously
exaggerated by the New World Order establishment as a pretext to
build-up and extend the powers of the U.S. government's dissident
spy-agencies.  

Brian Smith
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:

>Of course, it could be that Mr. Smith's ignorance of matters
>concerning the Holocaust is legendary (see his writing under
>the name "Kurt Stele," via the URL noted above for examples of
>Stainless Stele Ignorance), and that he's not a liar, just a
>fool.

I'm used to this.  I've been called "White Will" and some guy named
"Dan", and "the Aryan Crusader" and several other names besides.
Liberals often have difficulty believing there can possibly exist more
than 2 people at any given time who oppose their views.

>My guess, of course, given his own admission, and his writing,
>is that he's both liar _and_ fool... just spending his days
>doing that old National Alliance Two-Step.

Ken, how does it feel having devoted your entire LIFE to defending a
lie?   

With the gas station as his sole alternative, I guess Ken McVay
figures Nizkor is good work if you can get it!   McVay would rather
pimp than pump!

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"Ken McVay:  "Professional" Holohoax Apologist.  At your service!!!"



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hvlcrt@axess.com (H.V) wrote:

> Either way, when you are referring to the Roman Empire
>>you are still referring to civilization built predominantly by Nordics
>>and semi-Nordics.  

>Oh really ? The Romans looked like the present day Norwegians, that's 
>what you're telling me ? Sure, they were White, but you're the only one 
>who thinks they were Nordic ( whatever the hell that means anyways).
>Why shoudl i be surprised anwyays ? You're the one who suggested 
>that the Ancient Egyptians were nordics . I bet you think Zimbabwe was 
>built by nordics too.

Rome was ruled predominantly by Nordics and semi-Nordics.  That is
clear from historical accounts and obvious from Roman sculptures.
However, even this semi-Nordic ruling class was almost entirely
depleted by the time of the end of the Roman republic.   Either way,
however, Mediterraneans are still a European racial branch.  The
Romans were still White, with the exception of the non-Whites peoples
Rome made citizens during the phase of multiculturalism Rome adopted,
which signalled the decay and end of the Roman empire.  

>>When the Germanic tribes invaded they gave the decaying Roman Empire a
>>huge infusion of Nordic blood again.   Rome was far the better for it.

>Really ? Has Italy ever been in the centre of the Old world again ? 
>When ?

Italy bloomed once again during the Renaissance.  

>>There are very few indispensable contributions made by Islamics to the
>>Western world.  Even the problems of calculus and alegebra were
>>developed by Archimedes and the ancient Greeks (who were Nordics, as
>>shown by their scultures)

>Whatever..if the greeks had really invented algebra in any useful form, 
>THEY'd have been credited for it, not the Arabs.

The Alexandrian mathematicians Hero of Alexandria and Diophantus (both
Whites) advanced the algebraic traditions of Egypt and Babylon, and
Diophantus' book _Arithmetica_ is on a much higher level and gives
many solutions to difficult indeterminate equations.   It was their
knowledged of solutions of equation which found a home early in the
Islamic world.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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Laura Finsten  wrote:


>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>Laura Finsten  wrote:

>>>Dear Brian/Kurt,

>>Dear Laura/Annie.  I don't speak for Les Griswold or anyone but
>>myself, thank you.  

>If you have any evidence that I am posting under two different
>names, please do provide it.  If someone is posting under my name,
>I'd like to know about it.  I post under my own name only.  

>If you are not also posting under the name Kurt Stele, you should
>know that his userid/address has come up with your name and sig
>at the bottom.  You might want to do something about that.

I already explained to them the reason why.   

Brian Smith
www.natall.com






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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:
>>
>>Laura Finsten  wrote:

>>>Genetic markers for the "stereotypical Jew"?  Ummmmm, what about the
>>>majority of Jews who don't look anything like the stereotype, Mr. Stele?
>>>Ooops, I mean Smith.  

>>(Yawn).  This is a typical Nizkor accusation.   Everyone who posts
>>against the Jewish line is really 3 other people.

>So are you saying that Kurt Stele was posing as you?  I've seen a post
>which is signed with your name and signature, but has his userid in the
>"From" line.  Gee, I'd be pretty upset if I thought someone else was
>posting under my name.

Exactly.  Which is why I'd appreciate it if Mr. Graves would stop
posting under my name and forging headers.  Mr. Stele, unlike Rich,
had permission to quote me.   Rich Graves has no permission to forge
headers from my account.

>But of course, breast cancer, Tay-Sachs and other genetic conditions
>(and most breast cancers apparently are not) are not *limited* to
>people of Jewish ancestry.  Instead of reiterating the National
>Appliance that "differentiation will not be prohibitively difficult",
>I would much rather see you spell out the criteria for said differentiation.
>Or will you just scoop up and deport all those coming out of synagogue
>and leave the secular Jews alone?

We'll figure it out Mrs. Finsten.

>>I am referring to Whites in White-value societies, i.e., when Whites
>>are permitted to live alone according to their traditional values, as
>>demonstrated by past White societies.  The White people as a whole in
>>those societies opposed usury of course, but the monarchy was "bought
>>off" by Jews.

>The "monarchy was bought off by the Jews"???????????  I thought it was
>rather the other way around.   

I'd say it, all in all, it was a mutually beneficial relationship.
The big loser, as usual:  the White people under Jewish yoke. 

>>However, I don't wish to discuss White values with a Jew as that would
>>be waste of time.  If you are convinced these don't exist, that is
>>fine and of no consequence to me.

>Well I do wish you would discuss "White values", Mr. Smith. I'm not Jewish
>so perhaps it won't be a wast of your time.  I am truly curious about what 
>you consider to be "White values".  

White values are those which dominate and reflect the soul of the
European people, and are appear in Whites most prevalently in White
societies.  Honor, valor, chivalry, altruism (no other races possess
as much altriusm as Whites do, and it being exploited), empathy,
adventure, discovery, love of Nature.  Many are values contrast
sharply to the Jewish values of materialism, commercialism, and
cosmopolitanism which have been unnaturally and destructively imposed
on Whites.  However, the Japanese did create an honor code, similar to
Europeans, and I respect them for that.  

>>You glibly discard Jewish shrewdness as a "canard" however, if you
>>asked around even today in our politically correct society, honest
>>people would reflect this same stereotype of the "pushy Jew" and that
>>"Jews stick together."  I find that compelling.  You can fool most of
>>the people only some of the time with politically correct propaganda,
>>but people can eventually see through it and draw their own
>>conclusions.

>No, I am critical (in an analytical way) of *any* stereotype because stereotypes
>tend to be extremely misleading, whether they are negative or positive.  They
>gloss over the variation and emphasise a couple of qualities that you would find
>in some individuals in *any* large group of people.  The qualities emphasised 
>depend on what the objective of the stereotype is.  It is pretty obvious what 
>your objective is.

A stereotype which contradicts existing propaganda reflects a general
truth:  otherwise it couldn't exist.  The stereotype of the Jewish
"money-grubber" is reflected even in people who don't have a so-called
"objective" and in several countries, and in several eras.  I think
there is much to be said about such a widely and consistenly recurring
stereotype as the "money-grubbing" Jew.    In Shakespearian plays it
is embodied in the person of Shylock, for example.  

>The idea that there is a cohesive Jewish perspective is laughable.  There is a 
>saying that if you put three Jews in a room to discuss something you'll find 
>that there are four different opinions.  

That is not what I mean by "cohesion" in this context.  Vis a vis the
White race and non-Jews generally, Jews are cohesive.  

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:


>But you don't speak for "Kurt Stele"?  Gee, he has pretended to
>speak for you.  Here's the post, downloaded from Dejanews:

>[To verify, filter by newsgroup (alt.revisionism) and author
>(kurtstel@*), then search from Brian Smith (both, not either).
>Dejanews URL is:
>http://xp9.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=6733831&server=dnserver.db96q4&CONTEXT=847215937.83
>06&hitnum=0]

>--------------------
>Subject:      Re: DAVID IRVING to tour Australia????
>From:         kurtstel@micron.net (Kurt Stele)
>Date:         1996/10/19
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>yawen@enter.net (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

>>>   kurtstel@micron.net (Kurt Stele) writes:
>>>  yawen@enter.net (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

>>>  Wrong.  They were not members of the NA.  You are a lying sack of shit as usual.

>>       That's strange.  They filed a motion with the Court of Common Pleas of
>>Lehigh County swearing, under oath, that they were.

>>       --YFE

>They were not NA members nor have they ever been you lying scum-sucking dirtbag. You are
>bluffing sack of shit, a Jew AND a lawyer, the worst of the worst.

>Brian Smith
>-----------------------

>Or is Dejanews a Jewish conspiracy, too?

>"If I can't dance.....I don't want to be part of your revolution."
>          Emma Goldman


Mr. Stele requested I go on alt.revisionism and refute several Jews
who were lying and claiming the convicted Freeman brothers were both
"National Alliance" members.  I told Mr. Stele why NA members avoid
alt.revisionism.  However, I told him he could quote from me to refute
Mr. Eideken's lies since he wanted verification from a National
Alliance member.  Actually what I said had more to do with the fact
that had the two brothers been Alliance members, it would have been on
the cover of as many newspaper as possible.  I also said Mr. Eideken
was a lying Jew and being a lawyer didn't help matters.  All in all,
the above is a true rendition of the essence of what I said, though
put rather pithily.

Brian Smith
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jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:

>Not content to spew his nonsense about "black" people, Brian Smith has 
>now revealed his true colors as a man committed to hatred and abuse of anyone 
>who in his twisted worldview doesn't qualify for membership in the "superior" 
>race of "Whites". The problem is that Mr. Smith doesn't have the foggiest idea 
>of logic or history. My favorite contradiction is that although "Whites" are a 
>"superior" race they are in grave danger of being defeated and "engulfed" by 
>inferior races. You would think that if Mr. Smith really thought "Whites" were 
>superior he would not be afraid of competition from any other "inferior race". 
>Competition (as I am sure Mr. Smith would agree) makes all things stronger. 
>But rather than accept the competition that would make the "White" race 
>stronger, Mr. Smith wants to run from competition because (he claims) the 
>"White race" will lose the competition. Strange, isn't it.

Your assertion that I claimed Whites are somehow impervious is wrong.
It is only because I realize Whites are vulnerable to the anti-White
race-mixing propaganda being pumped into them by the Jewish media,
that I realize that the genocidal campaign to wipe Whites off the face
of the earth is indeed succeeding.   

Nevertheless, I do assert Whites are superior to Blacks in
civilization-building, technology, inventive talent, intelligence, and
cognitive abilities -- the things which Whites value.  

However, it is YOU, "loving" Jim, who wishes that the White race be
prevented from competing fairly, as you promote anti-White affirmative
action policies which nakedly advance less-qualified minorities over
more-qualified Whites.

Brian Smith
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pnosko@nmaa.org (Peter Nosko) wrote:

>Brian, I have some questions regarding your position on the concept of
>race.  During our recent, brief exchange via private email, I learned
>little about the basis for your position.  I also want to be sure I
>fully understand your position.

>I’d prefer to debate in a public forum, and keep our exchanges short
>and pointed, lest you begin to digress (again) and leave direct
>questions and challenges unanswered.

>In your last email, you said "Until races are disproved, then I will
>continue to believe race DO exist."  I think there is a better chance
>for (at least) one of us to enlightened the other if we take personal
>responsibility and defend our own positions and statements instead
>attacking the opposing position.

Not true.  Race is a subjective conclusion, as are ALL conclusions of
classification, based on the observation of significant differences.
One can choose to accept the conclusion or not, just as I can reject
the conclusion that there are no significant differences between a
purebred German shepherd and doberman or a mutt, or even between a
circle and a square.  And you cannot disprove my position.  Therefore,
neither side can "prove" or "disprove" one subjective conclusions.  

One's classification scheme reflects one's needs and values.  If there
is no need for me to distinguish between a horse and a cat, then I not
need do so.   However, it IS the avowed purpose of science to classify
ever difference in existence, in order to map out all facts.
Therefore, science must differentiate between Whites and Blacks based
on skin color ALONE.   

A more relevant question would be:  are there bases for drawing the
distinction of race?  I say yes.  The race, African and White, both
have differing evolutionary histories.  They possessed varying
evolutionary challenges based on geography and evolved along separate
paths.   

Considering the obvious difference in skin color and physiognomy,
there is no reason why if there exists external differences, there
cannot also exist internal differences as well.  There exists
differences in intelligence and in disease immunity, for example.
"Blackness" can be detected by genetic markers.  

I think the explanation trying to explain away the IQ diffferences
between Blacks and Whites as 'cultural' is just another excuse made by
egalitarians for Black innate deficiency.  According to the _Bell
Curve_, Chinese children who knew far less about the American culture
outscored American Blacks by significant margins.  Is 15 IQ's points a
"significant margin"?   Well, that is a subjective judgment again,
which cannot be proved or disproved.  I find 15 IQ points significant.


People claim _The Bell Curve_ is biased.  I do not find their evidence
at all compelling.  At the very least, there is a basis for concluding
there exists significant genetic differences betwen the races in
intelligence.   I will go with that conclusion because I think
genetics are highly determinative on one's make-up.

Then there also exists the fact that there exist NO First World Black
nation.  The term is literally an oxymoron.  Egalitarians see nothing
conclusive about this, but I see this as HIGHLY conclusive.  Again,
one cannot prove or disprove another's evidentiary interpretation.
All that is necessary is for there to be some basis for the conclusion
that has not yet been disproven.  

In addition, I am not trying to convince you of race -- rather YOU are
trying to dissuade me from my views of race.   Therefore, the burden
of "disproving" race rests on YOU.

>First, I’d like to be clear on what you are advocating.  From two
>newsgroup postings and our email exchanges, I’ve concluded the
>following.

>1)  You believe the concept of race is based on a physical science, as
>opposed to a social science.  (Races apparently "exist.")

It is both.  There exist physical, social, and historical bases on
which one may conclude that race exists.  

>2)  You believe the "white" race is superior, at least in
>intelligence.

Yes.  There is much data which show, as do the vast majority of IQ
tests, that Blacks are behind Whites on average, 10 - 15 IQ points.
You can claim these differences are cultural, but after reading _The
Bell Curve_ and several other works refuting that premise, I do not
find the argument at all compelling.   Neither do I find the other
side has PROVED there exists no genetic bases for intelligence between
the race.    

>3)  You believe "race-mixing" is destroying the "white" race.

Yes.   

>4)  You believe the majority of "race-mixing" (involving the "white"
>race) occurs in the form of a "white" woman and "black" man.

That has been my experience, yes.  

>As you initiated the posts on this topic, I’d like you to
>defend/support your position first.  Please let me know if are
>willing, and if so, whether the above four (4) statements accurately
>reflect your position.  

>Each can be answered by a simple yes or no.
>Feel free to elaborate on each, but again, I’d prefer to keep our
>questions and answers direct and exchanges short to avoid the tendency
>to digress and fatigue the opponent with voluminous, idle double-talk.

I share your concerns on the latter point.

Sincerely,

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

>Peter Nosko, Germantown, MD
>Race is a Pigment of the Imagination





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hmcom@eskimo.com (company account) wrote:

>STRAIGHT AS A THREE DOLLAR BILL

This is pure crap.  It's more of the same bogus anti-German,
anti-Hitler propaganda.  If they told you Hitler ate live infants for
breakfast, lunch, and dinner you'd believe it.  You're a gullible
fool.  

Hitler stood for health, opposed drugs, and even offered a few people
payment if they would quit smoking!   Hitler also openly opposed
homosexuality -- which is more than I can say for your Clintonian
militia.  

Brian Smith
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e142857@teleport.com (Walter Ulrich) wrote:

>"I have no idea. But I suspect Zionists are responsible. I wouldn't
>put it past them to have done the deed themselves and then blamed
>those sweet, kindly Nazis...I myself have a framed picture of Heinrich
>Himmler over my bed...he was a chicken farmer, you know, and 
>would never of harmed a human being...really."

The Anne Frank Diary is wonderful hoax.  The diary was written in ball
point ink which wasn't even available at the time!  This was revealed
when Otto Frank was sued and a German state crime lab analyzed the
diary.  

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
http://www.codoh.com/
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
http://www.air-photo.com/
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.htm

Brian Smith
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Lissa Valerian  wrote:

>On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Brian Smith wrote:

>> "Jefferson's vision of the future America--after the hypothetical
>> abolition of slavery by the slaveowners themselves--is a lily-white
>> one. All the ex-slaves are to be deported to Africa. In the meantime,
>> free blacks have to be eliminated from Virginia. Jefferson's proposals
>> for their elimination were too draconian to be stomached even by his
>> fellow slaveowners (above, chapter 7). His proposed (and rejected)
>> amendments to the Virginian legal code included a recommendation for
>> the penalization of what Virginian slaveowners called "miscegenation."

>I don't know what Thomas Jefferson YOU are talking about, but lets hear
>what the REAl one had to say about the OPPRESSION of the BLACKS.

>"Shall we refuse the unhappy fugitives from distress that hospitality
>which the savages of the wilderness extended to our fathers arriving in
>this land? Shall oppressed humanity find no asylum on this globe? The
>Constitution, indeed, has wisely provided that for admission to certain
>offices of important trust a residence shall be required sufficient to
>develop character and design. But might not the general character and
>capabilities of a citizen be safely communicated to every one manifesting
>a bona fide purpose of embarking his life and fortunes permanently with
>us?" --Thomas Jefferson

Notice Jefferson's reference to an "aslyum on the this globe."  This
reflects perfectly his intent to indeed grant them an asylum:    IN
AFRICA!

>"I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his
>justice cannot sleep forever: that considering numbers, nature and natural
>means only, a revolution of the wheel of fortune, an exchange of
>situation, is among possible events: that it may become probable by
>supernatural interference! The Almighty has no attribute which can take
>side with us in such a contest." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia,
>1782.

This quote here says NOTHING about favoring multiracialism. It doesn't
help you at all.

>"But we must await with patience the workings of an overruling providence
>and hope that that is preparing the deliverance of these, our suffering
>brethren. When the measure of their tears shall be full, when their groans
>shall have involved heaven itself in darkness, doubtless a God of justice
>will awaken to their distress and by diffusing light and liberality among
>their oppressors, or at length by his exterminating thunder, manifest his
>attention to the things of this world, and that they are not left to the
>guidance of blind fatality." --Thomas Jefferson to Jean Nicholas
>Demeunier, 1786.

Once, again nothing to refute his earlier statements and actions
opposing multiracialism and Black participation.  Noone is refuting
that Jefferson opposed slavery:   however, Jefferson wanted Blacks OUT
of his society and favored punishing miscegenation with death as was
posted earlier.

NIce try.  No cigar.

Brian Smith
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mattn@netmanage.com wrote:

>In Article Re: What the hell...? , Van Meter  wrote:

>> Can you imagine the Chinese of china electing an anglo-saxon governor of a
>> province, or the Blacks of Africa electing a white man mayor of Sowato. Sounds 
>> absurd doesn`t it? They are not that Stupid...

>	China and "Black Africa" are both backwards, xenophobic areas of the world,
>	kept in that condition not by phenotype, but by brutal totalitarianism.
>	Curiously, both region's xenophobia might be attributed to Europian
>	colonialism and expansionism, with the accompanying pogroms and disdain
>	for the native population.

What makes you think multiracialism is an "advancement" over
xenophobia?  

>	Of course, Hitler had a pretty good example of brutal totalitarianism going
>	there for a while, too, so I guess such self-destructive and foolish impulses
>	are not the sole providance of Chinese and "African Blacks". Whites, even 
>	Germans, er, Austrians can be stupid, too.

To the contrary.  The American nation when it was exclusively White
was far more progressive, cleaner, safer, healthier, and united:  all
BECAUSE it was White and xenophobic.

Again, how has the U.S. become "more advanced"  under multiracialism?


The answer is, it hasn't.  

Instead, it is consequently going straight into the sewer.

Brian Smith
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How ironic that the MAM crew calls themselves the "Defenders of the 
Constitution."   

Yet the first thing they do with what little power they have, is to
CENSOR politically incorrect viewpoints from the newsgroup under the
dubious leadership of one "Sheldon Sheps" -- an admitted proponent of
"Militia Watch," which is the ADL's anti-militia spy-group.  

It is amazing the amount of hypocrisy and distortion demonstrated here
by the MAM crew.   First, they scurrilously call White Nationalism
(the battle-proven enemy of communism) -- "communism."  

Then conversely, they completely strip the Constitution of its
original intent -- rendering it a meaningless and effigial Magna Carta
for Non-White Invasions and Homosexual Rights.

Now, to top it all off, these "Constitutional Defenders" are working
to censor opposing viewspoints.  

Wonderful.

Brian Smith
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mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney) wrote:

>So in light of their long history of anti-American activities, I propose we 
>bill the Jewish Establishment for 6 billion dollars as a down payment with 
>reparations to follow. To simplify things we might allow the ADL to be the 
>funnel through which the money would come.

>Well, isn't that fair and reasonable? After all, some of you ascribe 
>responsibility to the National Alliance - which had absolutely nothing 
>whatsoever to do with the OKC bombing - and that they should pay restitution 
>to the victims. Well, again, I say bill the Jewish Establishment - who 
>actually brought about the social conditions in which persons feel they have 
>to resort to bombings and violence. 

I agree. I say we send them the bill.

Hell, they're beem billing us in BILLIONS every year for Israel and
the Holohoax for decades now.

I say we also send them another bill.  This one reflecting the sum
damage the Jews have inflicted on the White race in just the last
century, through: 

1)  the butchery of untold millions of Whites under Jewish Communism; 

2)  the multitudes of unborn generations lost from Jewish race-mixing
media propaganda; 

3)  the incalculable loss from the millions of our best stock
needlessly killed in wars begun by, fought for, and funded by Jewish
interest,  (e..g, WWI and WII); 

4)  The millions of White women raped as a consequence of
Jewish-furthered non-White integration;  

5)  The millions of White victims of non-White crimes which would
never have been so victimized without integration.

Even all the Jew money in the world 1000 times over couldn't pay THAT
bill.  Consequently, I think 6 billion dollars is quite a small sum,
considering.

Brian Smith
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hmcom@eskimo.com (company account) wrote:

>Hitler The Last Ten Days - Eyewitness account of Gerhard Boldt,
>CM&G, New York., 1947.  ISBN 698-10531-1.  translation of Sandra
>Bance 1973.

How telling you are reduced to observing a man in his last ten days
for signs of weakness.  Hitler was a thousand times the leader and the
man you could ever HOPE to be, you litte worm.

Brian Smith
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How very interesting it is that the man who is most determined to get
all White patriots removed from M.A.M. is the Jew Sheldon Sheps, whose
URL refers to Militia Watch -- yet another dissident spying group
plugged into the Jewish ADL.  

Jews have entered the militia, like they enter every organization they
can which potentially threatens them, to "keep an eye on them".  The
Jews  make sure they stay "kosher," and make sure the militia talk
stays AWAY from the questions of:

1)  Which group is at the forefront of banning guns?  HINT:  their
names sound like Howard METZENBAUM, Charles SCHUMER, Barbara BOXER,
and Diane FEINSTEIN.  

2)  Which ethnic minority dominates INTERNATIONAL BANKING and always
has?   Which ethnic group has more familiies which own the private
stock of the hoax "Federal Reserve Bank"?  

3)  Which group controls the financial affairs of the U.S.?  Could be
the Federal Reserve Chairman:   Alan GREENSPAN, or Treasury director
RUBIN?  

When are you militia people going to wake up to the people whose
actions are most destroying this country?   To the people whose agenda
is totally incompatible with a free and armed citizenry?  

WAKE UP.

Brian Smith
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How very indicative of the inability of MAM's crew to refute the
points and positions of the White patriots addressing them.

Their only recourse is to ban the participation of White patriots
entirely, like a crew of tin-pot, bannana republic dictators.  

They resemble the man in the boxing ring crying out for the ref's
mercy to stop the fight because he can't take the punches.  "Please!
Make him stop!  I beg you!  PLEASE!!"  

How embarrassing.

Fine.  Throw in the towel.  No competition.  

Brian Smith
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josephcl@scf.usc.edu (Joseph Clark) wrote:

>Hey brian, 
>   I, for one, don't feel engulfed and eradicated. I don't think I know
>anybody who is being engulfed or eradicated.  If you feel engulfed and
>eradicated, maybe you should see a specialist. I think there is a therapy
>or a cream or something for that problem.

>Without paranoid delusions,

>Joseph Clark
>josephcl@scf.usc.edu

Number one, Mr. Clark, the fact that YOU do not "feel" eradicated and
engulfed is irrelevant to whether the White race as a WHOLE is
-actually- being eradicated and engulfed.   Number two, it takes few
brain cell to realize that a negative White birthrate coupled with
huge invasions of faster-breeding non-Whites, along with race-mixing
propaganda pumped into Whites by the Jewish media, adds up to White
genocide.

Brian Smith
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jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:

>In article <55gccm$oa0@is05.micron.net>,
>   sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:
>::jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:
>::
>::>I have noticed that you have completely ignored my comments to the effect 
>::>that, although you deny that the holocaust happened in the past, you would 
>::>be glad to create one in the future, right?
>::
>::No.  Believe me, Jim, I don't want any more fake Holocausts in the
>::future.  I mean my God, haven't the Jews BILKED enough cash off the
>::stupid goyim already?

>I didn't accuse you of wanting "any more fake Holocausts", so your denial is 
>not on the point. The fact that you have chosen to avoid my question is 
>further evidence that you are promoting a new holocaust that you hope will be 
>as real as the last one. Fortunately, your hopes will not come true.

(yawn)  No, Jim, my intention is not to create ANY genocides -- either
real or faked.   The goal of White nationalists is a separate White
homeland for the preservation of our people, to prevent them a certain
and repulsive extinction in a sea of mud.  however, if you supposedly
value diversity and tolerance so much, than surely you will not mind a
number of Whites "opting out" of your "multicultural paradise" (gag!)
to preserve their own unique kind?

Brian Smith
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daddison@lville.mindspring.com (Don Addison) wrote:

>>1. Would you admit homosexuals into your militia group?

>Yes,the I have gay friends who shoot straight (pardon the pun) and
>wouldd trust them at my back any day of the week.

>>2. Would you admit Satanists into your militia group?

>Yes as long as they didn't push their religion on me.

Sorry, Darla.  No morally permissive or degenerate force can long
prevail either in battle or otherwise.   Yours is the formula for
ultimate defeat.   The more your moral views become accepted by
militia, the more the militia will become even less capable.   

Since the militia HAS no unifying morality to speak of, the militia
cannot exclude homosexuals any more than it can exclude Satanists or
Voodoo members.

Brian Smith
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rajiv_gandhi@bc.sympatico.ca (Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:

>> Go home back to your ancestral home and India and be a passivist
>> push-over over there.   I'm sure you'll get plenty of sympathy amid
>> millions of your squalid, brown brothers rotting on the fly-ridden
>> sidewalks in "ecstacies" of pacificism!  No thanks  "Gandhi"!   

>It is clear that the National Alliance does not make an attempt to recruit
>even remotely intelligent individuals; if it did, I¹d wager that Mr. Smith
>would find himself an outcast - refuse at the bottom of a dungheap.

Yeah.  Right "Gandhi".   Like that Indian imagery.  

>Since you appear to be confused and bewildered, I¹ll explain it yet again.

Please enlighten us, oh "Illuminated Brown One" from the East! 

>First of all, those brown brothers to which you refer - and I¹m sure you
>mean sisters as well, since the National Alliance rhetoric is all so
>inclusive on that aspect (please, for those so impaired, note the thinly
>veiled sarcasm) - are hardly all pacifists. In fact, I¹m sure that some of
>the 950 million that roam the Indian subcontinent would take great delight
>in casing you a little (or a lot) of pain.

No doubt.  That is why the pacificism your promote is an appropriate
philosophy for slaves and death-wishers.

>While you¹re mulling that though over, I¹ll reiterate - pacifism does not
>equate with passivity. For you to continue to assume that it does merely
>demonstrates either your willing ignorance, or your deliberate
>misrepresentation of something you know is patently false. Neither bodes
>well for the National Alliance.

Pacifism is an unnatural, and degenerate abdication of one's role as a
participant in Nature's struggle.  If you do not wish to assert your
own Life, then you certainly do not DESERVE it.  Nature does not favor
moral cripples.   But as I said before, "Gandi,"  by all means, be as
passive as you want.   The more passive -- the BETTER!

Brian Smith
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medintz@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (Mike S. Medintz) wrote:

>Whilst completely naked, Brian Smith said unto us:

>>Crap!  We don't need to be interdependent on some non-White peon
>>country!!  If they want to "blow up" or invade, that threat can easily
>>be dealt with.

>You also don't need to import auto parts-you can always pay $30,000 for a
>car that would cost you $15,000 today.

Nothing is more precious or valuable than one's people, and one's
genes.   Lower-priced cars is certainly not worth dissolving one's
race.

And besides:   the U.S. economy can function perfectly well, and in
fact did astoundingly well, under "U.S.-first" trade policies.  The
alleged "need" for third-world economic interdependence is just a lie
to justify the New World Order's destructive economic globalization of
America.

Brian Smith
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pgissource@aol.com (PGISSource) wrote:

>In article <847142317$19978@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>Fine.  I could say the same about BOK's response that it wasn't a
>>threat, that if the world is a small place, then perhaps Milton Kleim
>>will be in contact with more and more White patriots who can discuss
>>issues further with him and maybe point out errors in Mr. Kleim's
>>reasoning. 

>Okay. No problem. Then why are you whining that you are being threatened?
>Following your view above, there have been no threats on the newsgroup,
>just ambiguous statements. I can live with that. Can you?

>I guess then we have it resolved so we can send the answer to the
>moderator, eh? There have been no threats, just misunderstandings. So your
>whimpering little complaint is therefore withdrawn, right?

>On the other hand, I would suggest that such, uh, ambiguous statements
>that can be "accidentally" taken as threats be avoided by -all- sides.
>After all, we wouldn't want any more misunderstandings, would we, Brian?

Alright.   Agreed.

Brian Smith
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mattn@netmanage.com wrote:

>	But the solution is not to *increase* the separation, rather, it is to
>	get blacks to STOP considering themselves as their own community, and
>	START considering themselves part of the American Community. At the same
>	time, it is critical that whites, hispanics, and asians do the same.

>	Increasing the separation will lead to balkanization and could ultimatly
>	lead to civil war. That is NOT a "good thing".

>	-Matt

Separation is the only workable answer -- the only solution to the
race problem.  You will not "convince" Blacks to abandon their racial
identity.  The reason they are alienated from Whites and vice versa is
because of the dramatic inherent differences between the races which
cannot be changed. 

Brian Smith
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[NO]        Kevin Alfred Strom       ka_strom@ix.netcom.com
[NO]        Ken Pokrifka             ken@sgi.net
[NO]        Ian McKinney             mckinney@usaor.net
[NO]        Brian Smith              sbrian@micron.net,
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[NO]        Kenneth Campbell         knbell@top.monad.net
[NO]        Vincent (The Bok)        thebok@dreamon.com
[NO]        (Cutter 001)             cutter001@aol.com
[NO]        Robert Dawson            rbdwsn@top.monad.net
[NO]        Leo Walsh                GEQR17C@prodigy.com
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"Censorship:  the ultimate concession of validity."

Brian Smith
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GEQR17C@prodigy.com (Leo Walsh) wrote:

>I propose the creation of a Black Resettlement Fund.  This could be 
>created by a temporary increase in taxation, such as an additional 3% 
>flat, across-the-board income tax and a national sales tax of 2% (like 
>many of the rest of you, I am very much against taxation whenever 
>possible and hope very much that these tax increases would only take 
>place within the context of a general tax decrease that should take place 
>immediately, so that even these increases would actually amount to a net 
>reduction from current taxation levels).  As painful as taxes are, 
>resettling our African guests will take a good deal of money and it must 
>be raised, just as the money to fight in our wars must be raised.  It is 
>a simple question of national security.

Where do I sign up!

Brian Smith
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ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:

>In article <847271003$6515@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>To the contrary.  The American nation when it was exclusively White
>>was far more progressive, cleaner, safer, healthier, and united:  all
>>BECAUSE it was White and xenophobic.

>there is, of course, no historical evidence to support any of the above
>assertions.  In fact it was similar attitudes which can be traced as one
>of the primary causes of the downfall of the Greek
>City-States...xenophobia inevitably stifles, and then strangles, any
>culture which adopts it.

Well, xenophobia hasn't strangled China, nor Japan!  Those countries
are at least national communities, low in crime, united by peoplehood,
still going strong after thousands of years.  These countries also
demonstrate that xenophobia does not necessarily mean excluding trade.
China's exports to the U.S. have wiped out entire industries on which
the U.S.'s economic independence was formerly based, such as the hand
tool industry.  

Nor did xenophobia "strangle" our European ancestors whose
civilizations long thrived and advanced under xenophobia policies.
Xenophobia has worked fine for as long as there has existed
civilization and before.  

However, it is only AFTER xenophobia is abandoned and multiracialism
adopted, that the White race now stands for the first time on the
brink of self-extinction.

Brian Smith
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pgissource@aol.com (PGISSource) wrote:

>In article <846925386$3548@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>Many in the National Alliance possess a spiritual outlook both
>>regarding the Struggle and for life in general.  Many of us hold it is
>>man's purpose to usher a higher form of man, to aid Evolution in its
>>task of creating and furthering man up the evolutionary path.   Our
>>race, our people, is our immortality, and figuratively speaking, a man
>>lives on forever through his race.  

>. . .

>>Whatever.  You can pray all you want.  I don't believe in your
>>religion or your superstitions.  You can make a voodoo doll of me and
>>poke holes in it for all I care.   Point out where you claimed I
>>"insulted" your religion -- whatever religion it is you have, I as yet
>>still have no idea.   I happen to disagree.  My pointing out that
>>European paganism would have been eradicated from multiracialism is an
>>accurate statement, and one I see nothing insulting in.

>and here once again we see, in the commie's own words, that intense hatred
>of any form of faith, other than in the collective ("race"), which would
>allow individuals to stand for belief in "right" and against the state.
>Note that Christians also have no role under the above philosophy and
>would banned as quickly as any other belief other than perhaps one that
>the state itself might impose.

>Thank you, Brian, for yet another fine example of your commie beliefs.

How much is Nizkor paying you these days, Wizard?  

No wonder you keeping lying that the NA is communist.  It distracts
>from  the fact that YOU are in bed with the same tribe who runs the ADL
and the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Guess you didn't think we'd find that out, did you, Mr. "Wizard"?

Brian Smith
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pgissource@aol.com (PGISSource) wrote:


>In article <847266515$6157@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>Pacifism is an unnatural, and degenerate abdication of one's 
>>role as a participant in Nature's struggle. 

>Nature abounds with creatures who may "pacifistically" relinquish their
>individual lives to predators but who prove so unpalatable on the way down
>that the species or population itself is in fact protected from further
>predation. Other types, such as the porcupine, are relatively pacifistic
>yet maintain even some personal defense aspects. Finally, there are
>species that simply are productive enough that the losses through
>pacifistic lifestyle is absorbed by the species population at large.

>Pacifism, therefore, is totally consistent with the laws of nature, it
>just follows a different path.

>Study a little natural science, Brian, you evidently know very little
>about the subject.

>That you see yourself as a predator does not mean that all must or even
>should assume a similar role.

Nature has made no other provision for a man to protect his own life
other than by actively defending it.  Man cannot survive depredations
by simply laying down and sticking up his quills.  Despite Gandhi's
assertion, we do not have that option.     

Brian Smith
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mpitcava@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark T Pitcavage) wrote:

>First off, it is not "Militia Watch," it is "The Militia Watchdog."

Whatever, Mike.

>Secondly, though you do not know it, Sheldon Sheps has worked to stop previous 
>banning attempts in the past.  The fact that he has proposed this banishment, 
>and the fact that he is supported by both pro- and anti- militia posters in 
>this newsgroup should suggest to you exactly how disgusting and repulsive you 
>are.

I don't doubt that Sheldon Sheps (U) OPPOSES censorship whenever it
benefits HIS agenda.   

Brian Smith
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HASSMAN@sscl.uwo.ca wrote:

>You don't need documents when you have PILES and PILES of CORPSES!!  You don't 
>need a piece of paper to tell you that gas chambers existed, because they are 
>STILL THERE!!  Go to Buchenwald or Auschwitz and OPEN YOUR EYES!!  

Noone is saying a lot of people didn't die.  However, typhus epidemics
do not prove extermination by gassing.   The Jews claim Hitler was
trying to exterminate Jews but this claim has no physical evidentiary
basis.  Saying otherwise is inaccurate and dishonest -- which
describes the Holocaust guilt-industry quite well.  

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http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
http://www.air-photo.com/
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html

Brian Smith
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amatthews@cybercom.net (Allan Matthews) wrote:

>>that a negative White birthrate

>Which isn't the case.

In many places, such as Finland, the White birthrate is actually
NEGATIVE.  At any rate, Whites are being outbred by non-Whites at a
rate of at least 3 to 1, certainly in America and in many parts of
Europe including France and England.  The White world is being
deliberately deluged with Blacks and Browns.  The White race is being
gradually and deliberately eradicated.

>> coupled with huge invasions of faster-breeding non-Whites,

>Which isn't the case.

What do you call millions of non-White invaders streaming over our
borders whose birthrate is many times higher than Whites?  If this
invasion were to cease tomorrow, Whites would STILL be outbred in a
few decades by non-Whites.

>> along with race-mixing propaganda pumped into Whites by the Jewish media, 

>Which isn't the case.

Show me that the politically-correct "diversity" race-mixing message
isn't inserted into virtually every commercial, sit-com and movie by
the Jewish media.  

>>adds up to White genocide.

>Which adds up, as usual, to the fact Mr. Smith is a lying racist shithead.

Actually, you have a long way to go to disproving anything I've said.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



From sbrian@micron.net Fri Nov  8 11:22:19 PST 1996
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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>"Gerald Conrad"  wrote:

>>How many people have died because of the Jew's attempt (nearly achieved) to
>>make the world red? 100 million? 200? 300? Oh well, they were only goyim,
>>not the Chosen People. They don't count.

>Fucking idiocy:

>Marx: Grandson of two rabbis, but raised a Protestant and wrote vastly

Marx was still a Jew.  A protestant upbringing didn't change that.

>	anti-Semitic tracts as an adult
>Trotsky: Renounced his Judaism for "internationalism"; assassinated by

Who cares:  Trotsky was still a Jew.

>	Stalinists; his father sat shiva for him while he was still alive.
>Lenin: Not Jewish

Lenin was a half-Jew.

>Stalin: Not Jewish; in fact, a murderer of millions of Jews

Stalin was married to a Jew:   Kaganovich's sister Rosa.  

>Khrushchev: Not Jewish

Kruschev did not murder millions

>Brezhnev: Not Jewish

Ditto

>Mao: Not Jewish
>Deng: Not Jewish
>Ho: Not Jewish
>Kim Il Sung: Not Jewish
>Castro: Not Jewish
>Ceacescu: Not Jewish
>Jaruzelski: Not Jewish
>Malenkov: Not Jewish
>Molotov: Not Jewish

Molotov was married to a Jew.

>Guevara: Not Jewish
>Gus Hall: Not Jewish

Gus Hall is Jewish.  His real name is Arvo Mike Halberg.  

>Chernenko: Not Jewish
>Andropov: Not Jewish

Andropov was Jewish.

>Engels: Not Jewish
>Tito: Not Jewish
>Pol Pot: Not Jewish
>Li Peng: Not Jewish
>Chou Enlai: Not Jewish
>Ortega: Not Jewish
>Sean O'Casey: Not Jewish
>Edmund Wilson: Not Jewish
>Enver Hoxha: Not Jewish

>Are there any other prominent Communists I've forgotten?

Kaganovich:  Soviet politburo.  

Germany - The "Sparticus Bund", led by Jewess, Rosa Luxemburg, in the
spring  of 1919, attempted a Communist revolution, but failed. Later,
Rosa and Karl  Leibneckt, also Jewish, continued to lead Communist
agitations until assasinated by right-wing elements in the early
thirties. 

Hungary:  Bela Kun (Cohen)

Poland, Czechoslovakia, and Romania - The men who dominated Poland
were Jews  (Minc, Skryeszewski, Modezelewski, and Berman), the
secretary general of the Communist Party in Czechoslovakia was a Jew
(Slansky), 

Ana Pauker of Romania was a Jewess. 

Out of the first Communist government in Russia, out of 371 all but 17
were Jewish.  Over 200 were Jews from the lower east side of New York.


Virtually every head of the KGB/NKVD/MVD/OGPU and
whatever other acronym the Soviets used to describe their
genocidal secret political police, as been JEWISH.  Yagoda,
Yezhov, Trotsky, Andropov, and Beria.

The top 6 heads of the Gulag were Jews.  Naftely Frankl (Jew) devised
the Gulag.  

Uritsky was the first head of the Cheka.  

The Bolshevik revolution, as was Marxism itself and the first
Communist government, was a Jewish created and dominated affair.  Its
success was made possible by a timely $20 dollar sum given from Jacob
Schiff (Jew).   

Brian Smith
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kate@accessone.com (Kathleen Mulhern) wrote:

>*In article <559m6d$a5e@is05.micron.net> sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) writes:
>*
>*>No need to "loving" Jim.  There is no physical evidence.  It is all
>*>eyewitness testimony, much of it from Germans tortured, put on trial
>*>to testify, and then summarily hanged.  Hardly the circumstances to
>*>permit truth to emerge.

>Hey idiot... if you knew anything about the history profession, you'd know
>that eyewitness evidence is the most sought after primary source
>material.  You are so boring.  Really.

Eyewitness testimony is the most unreliable form of testimony in
existence.  How can you say eyewitness testimony is more reliable than
physical evidence?   

Brian Smith
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jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:

>Brian "Blood Sucking" Smith has still not answered my questions. I guess he is 
>afraid to do so.

>     Love, Jim Walsh

>[P.S. I sometimes correct spelling and grammar in quoted material without intending to modify the meaning.]

You know as well as I do "loving" Jim, there is no question of yours I
will not answer.  Now:  what was your question?  

Don't tell it is the same old question of whether Jesus was White.
Please!  I gave you my answer to that question in no uncertain terms
and several times before:

"WHO CARES!"

I can also repost my "Jesus" message if you need it.  

"guilt is not love,"

Brian Smith
www.natall.com





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amatthews@cybercom.net (Allan Matthews) wrote:

>>that a negative White birthrate

>Which isn't the case.

In many places, such as Finland, the White birthrate is actually
NEGATIVE.  At any rate, Whites are being outbred by non-Whites at a
rate of at least 3 to 1, certainly in America and in many parts of
Europe including France and England.  The White world is being
deliberately deluged with Blacks and Browns.  The White race is being
gradually and deliberately eradicated.

>> coupled with huge invasions of faster-breeding non-Whites,

>Which isn't the case.

What do you call millions of non-White invaders streaming over our
borders whose birthrate is many times higher than Whites?  If this
invasion were to cease tomorrow, Whites would STILL be outbred in a
few decades by non-Whites.

>> along with race-mixing propaganda pumped into Whites by the Jewish media, 

>Which isn't the case.

Show me that the politically-correct "diversity" race-mixing message
isn't inserted into virtually every commercial, sit-com and movie by
the Jewish media.  

>>adds up to White genocide.

>Which adds up, as usual, to the fact Mr. Smith is a lying racist shithead.

Actually, you have a long way to go to disproving anything I've said.

Brian Smith
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rajiv_gandhi@bc.sympatico.ca (Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:

>I¹m not promoting anything, least of all pacificism (which doesn¹t even
>appear to be a word.)

I've seen spelling errors in your posts but don't I deign to such
paltriness "Gandhi"  -- I don't feel the need to!  

>> Pacifism is an unnatural, and degenerate abdication of one's role as a
>> participant in Nature's struggle.  If you do not wish to assert your
>> own Life, then you certainly do not DESERVE it.  Nature does not favor
>> moral cripples.   But as I said before, "Gandi,"  by all means, be as
>> passive as you want.   The more passive -- the BETTER!

>It is also interesting, that you (and some others - not all - in this
>newsgroup, I assume) support the right to self determination; yet when that
>right is exercised in a manner other than what you prescribe, the result is
>that the non-conformist view is Œdegenerate.¹ Boy, some support of basic
>human rights there, huh ?

Pacifism, that which avoids necessary violence, results in
subjugation.   Someone could come into one's house and rape the wife
and steal one's possessions.  And you refuse to protect those who need
your protection to live.   It is an abdication of duty -- duty to
protect loved ones and the weak and innocent from harm.  You are a
disgrace of a man in my opinion, not even a man.  If you are ever in
such a situation, you certainly deserve every ounce of abuse your
wimpy Brown ass receives, "Gandhi."

>Pacifism does not mean passive. If you think this is the case, then by all
>means, continue wallowing in your own ignorance (and deliberate
>misrepresentation.) Pacifists do not decline to Œasset their own life¹ as
>you state it. Pacifists value life, and see no merit in killing. Pacifists
>see no value in causing violence. It is a moral boundary that is not
>crossed. 

Like I said, be as passive as you want.  By all means, don't defend
yourself.  You certainly won't convince me of a such an ignoble and
suicidal philosophy.  Those who have no problems with defending
themselves with necessary violence may live and protect themselves and
their way of life.  Those who do not are either made slaves or are
free to commit suicide.  Given those two alternatives, there's no
point in pacificism.  

If you want to lie on the floor belly-up like your fly-ridden brothers
in India and get worked over, be my guest.  I'll die on my feet thank
you.  By the way, I don't think you'll have much luck with your
pacificistic pablum in this forum.  Go peddle your wares in alt.india
or alt.suicide where they belong!  

Brian Smith
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rajiv_gandhi@bc.sympatico.ca (Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:

>In article <847302489$9427@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>[snip]

>> Nature has made no other provision for a man to protect his own life
>> other than by actively defending it.  Man cannot survive depredations
>> by simply laying down and sticking up his quills.  Despite Gandhi's
>> assertion, we do not have that option.     

>I disagree. In the long run it is the only way for the human species (man
>AND woman, little man) to survive. Violence will be what will eventually
>cause our extinction.

I don't throw my kin's lot in with the "Human race".  All men are not
equal.   Whites have much more to lose by amalgamation than your muddy
kind does, "Gandhi." Our gene pool placed a man on the moon.   What
has India, or any mulatto nation for that matter, ever done comparable
to that?

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>When was the American nation "exclusively White"?  When natives started
>getting sick and dying in massive numbers, African slaves were imported.
>There never has been an "exclusively White" nation, in real terms.

Exclusively White meaning Whites EXCLUDED non-Whites from
participation in White political and social life -- non-Whites were
marginalized.  America used to be exclusively White.  

Brian Smith
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e142857@teleport.com (Walter Ulrich) wrote:

>>   sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) writes:

>[snip]
>  
>>  Arlin would rather have every race piled on top of one another, thrown
>>  in together in a chaotic mess with nothing in common, fighting each
>>  other, trying to FORCE diversity on everyone to fulfill some sort of
>>  sick liberal dream Arlin has.

>Hehehahahaheeehahaeehah! Snort, snicker, gasp!! Oh, yeah, right!
>Hey, you're describing THE WORLD....yep, that's it, every "race piled
>on top of one another"....better get used to it, sucker, because one
>out of every five people is Chinese, another is Indian, another is
>African, another is mixed Spanish-Indian, and the last, get this you
>simpering idiot, is "white".  In simple terms, "white" guys are a minority.
>Better learn to kiss ass, white boy, if you intend to get along in the
>real world.

Actually Whites are less than 7% of the World and decreasing.  You are
just driving home the fact that the White race is in danger of being
eradicated, while the Chinese, African, or mestizo are not in danger
of this in the least.   

I guess it would just warm your heart if every last White was
mongrelized, wouldn't it?

Brian Smith
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smaceach@polar.bowdoin.edu wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>> Actually, an armed White force against ANY armed Black one, even one
>> with far greater numbers, has ALWAYS been a walk-over.  

>Brian. Brian, Brian, Brian. Do I have to post that list of European defeats
>in Africa for you again? Those were only the big 19th-century ones, BTW --
>I can give you a list of earlier ones as well.

Considering that you are a notorious poseur, please do.  And I am not
talking about isolated battle victories.  I am talking about Whites
being defeated and/or enslaved by Blacks -- i.e., losing the war.  

Brian Smith
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rbdwsn  wrote:

>Finally, the Jews must be made to recognize that they are "guests" in our 
>country and not overlords.  If Jews disapprove of our right to 
>self-defense and to our Constitutional liberty in forming militias, then 
>they are welcome to leave.  As guests, they are abusing their hosts.
>Again, if Jews possess this antipathy towards our American freedoms, they 
>can GET OUT.  

Hear hear!   It's almost funny seeing how Jews lead America around the
by the nose, spying on us at will and enforcing the Jewish agenda,
stripping us of billions of dollars every year to kill more Arabs,
working to ban gun ownership, perpetually working to make sure we feel
guilty about the Holocaust, controlling our domestic and international
financial affairs, and dominating our foreign affair policies.  

And most Americans can't even see it.   No wonder the Jews have such
contempt for us and refer to us, even in our face, as the "gullible
goyim"!   

And I can't blame the Jews for thinking that about us.  Hell, look at
these M.A.M. dupes who can't see who calls the shots in this country.
Jews even have militia playing their song and hopping to THEIR tune --
Militia!  People whom the Jewish establishment hates, condemns, and
spies upon.   Amazing.  I guess when Metzenbaum and Feinstein get
through with the Second Amendment, I'll be lucky if I can legally own
a pellet gun!

Brian Smith
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rajiv_gandhi@bc.sympatico.ca (Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:


>In article <847322296$11840@atype.com>, e142857@teleport.com (Walter
>Ulrich) wrote:

>[snip]

>> You really are a dweeb, brainazi.
>> 
>> Hitler was a drug addict before he became chancellor, see "Hitler -
>> Memoirs of a Confidant" by Otto Wagener, written by a >friend< of Hitler.
>> Even he details Hitler's degenerate habits. 
>> 
>> Hitler merely used the "homosexual" issue to excuse his slaughter
>> of Ernst Rohm and associates, yet kept the equally homosexual Julius
>> Streicher around because he didn't threaten him...
>> 
>> Don't try to make Uncle Adolf into an Ayran saint around those who
>> actually know history, it just won't work.

>Hitler wasn¹t even an Aryan (or at least an Aryan according to the
>erroneous Nazi version of an Aryan). He was a short, dark, impotent little
>troll.

Hitler was a Nordic with blue eyes.  It is YOU who is the brown little
troll, "Gandhi."   

"Gandhi," it must really suck being a mud.  You're a member of a race
with lesser achievments, a race of squalor, of filth, or predominant
poverty.  No wonder you want to turn everyone into a person of mixed
race like yourself.  I bet that would make you feel a whole lot
better, wouldn't it?

Brian Smith
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smaceach@polar.bowdoin.edu wrote:

>"Van Meter"  wrote:
>> 
>> The best way that I can answer that is to say that we are
>> Separatists
>> and believe that all people are happier and better off living with their
>> own kind.
>> We do not hate other races...VanMeter
>> 
>I suggest that you speak to some of your compatriots on that -- Smith,
>McKinney et al could give anyone lessons on how to hate people. And
>apartheid hasn't exactly been a successful strategy for reducing tensions
>where it's been applied either -- it turns out to be just a cover for
>exploitation, 'cause if people are so different that they have to be segregated,
>then groups just _have_ to be superior or inferior, and in that case 
>shouldn't the superior group be running things. And then you're back to
>masters and servants.

Actually, the problem with South Africa is the White man's mistake of
letting Blacks in the country to begin with!  Blacks in South Africa
had the highest standard of living in Africa because the White man let
him work in South Africa.   Whites, again, are divested of the society
they built up by non-Whites, after the White man is stupid enough to
let non-Whites take over!   And even with apartheid Blacks flocked to
South Africa in large numbers because they knew the White man's
society would furnish them with greater opportunity than their own.

>But in fact different groups really _aren't_ different where it matters --
>in their intelligence, in their quest for some kind of dignity and
>freedom. So 'separate development' in the USA would work out
>about as well as in South Africa -- with the signal difference that there'd
>be more 'whites' trying to sabotage it here. 

This is the standard liberal falsehood.  Africans and Whites ARE
different in intelligence, which is indeed "where it counts."  In
addition to possessing higher basic IQ, Whites as a race possess
unique problem-solving and inventive skills entirely lacking in
Blacks.

Despite Mr. MacEachern's liberal hat-tricks, he has yet to produce
even ONE first world Black nation in existence.   Guess he'll have to
keep on looking!

Brian Smith
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Daniel Kuehne  wrote:

>The so-called "Anti-Defamation" League (ADL) only represents the elite socialist (i.e. 
>Communist) Jews. Unfortunately, this small minority of Jews has an influence in our 
>society which FAR exceeds their share of the population (including 67% of network 
>television executives). If being against Pharisaical Communists such as Morris Dees and 
>Charles Schumer (and other ADL henchmen) makes one "anti-semitic," then I'd PROUDLY wear 
>this gov-media propaganda label!!! 

Many try to apologize for the ADL by saying it does not speak for
Jews.  However, that claim is false as there exists no Jewish group --
not one -- which opposes the actions of the ADL.   Also, Jews as a
group accept the benefits of the ADL without protest, as the ADL
enforces the Jewish agenda through threat, intimidation, spying, and
string-pulling.  

Brian Smith
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pgissource@aol.com (PGISSource) wrote:

>In article <847268298$6343@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>"Censorship:  the ultimate concession of validity."

>Interesting. Then your commie group's efforts to ban other beliefs and
>racists from your society is the ultimate admission that those groups have
>a higher "validity" than the National Alliance commie club? Or in other
>words, by comparison, National Alliance is invalid?

I do justify extreme measures if those trying to exterminate the White
race ultimately do not permit Whites self-determination and an escape
>from  racial annihilation.   

However, you claim to be the Constitution's defenders, yet you resort
to censorship.   This is blatant hypocrisy.  For all of your
sputtering and baseless accusing of White patriots as "commies," it
turns out that YOU, Wizard of Communism, are the biggest commie of
them all.   I guess Marx and Lenin taught you well.   Your campaign of
censorship is now fully under way.   Congratulations. 

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>Hey Ann, could you cite the edition(s), volume (s) and page number(s) for  
>the places in the Talmud where dishonesty, cheating (isn't that redundant,
>by the way?) and rape are proscribed?  Or did you pick this up from some
>of Papa Pierce's delightful antisemitic drivel?

Just hold on to your stomach.  

--------begin----------

This study is based on the Jewish-authorized, English translation of
the Babylonian Talmud: the Soncino edition. Every selection we cite is
documented directly from the text of the authoritative Soncino Talmud.
We have published herein the authenticated sayings of the Jewish
Talmud. Look them up for yourself. To verify the Talmud passages
cited, refer to the Soncino edition Talmud, which may be found in
large university and seminary libraries. The Soncino Talmud may also
be purchased from book dealers.

Non-Jews are Not Human Baba Mezia 114a-114b. Only Jews are human
("Only ye are designated men"). Also see Kerithoth 6b under the
sub-head, "Oil of Anointing" and Berakoth 58a in which Gentile women
are designated animals ("she-asses").

Jews are Divine Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (Gentile) hits a Jew, the
Gentile must be killed. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God.

O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a Gentile
("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

Jews Have Superior Legal Status Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an
Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an
ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be
in full."

Jews May Steal from Non-Jews Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object
lost by a Gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned.
(Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).

Sanhedrin 76a . God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to
an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost
article to a Cuthean..."

Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a
Gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals
>from  a Gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God
has "exposed their money to Israel."

Jews May Lie to Non-Jews Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies
("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

Non-Jewish Children Sub-Human Yebamoth 98a. All Gentile children are
animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b . Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from
birth.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

Abodah Zarah 67b . "The vessels of Gentiles, do they not impart a
worsened flavor to the food cooked in them?"

Gittin 57a . Says Jesus ( see footnote #4) is being boiled "hot
excrement".

Israel Shahak reports that the Zionists burned hundreds of New
Testament books in Occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish
History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).

Yebamoth 63a . Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.

Genocide Advocated by Talmud Minor Tractates. Soferim 15, Rule 10.
This is the saying of Rabbi Simon ben Yohai: Tob shebe goyyim harog
("Even the best of the Gentiles should all be killed").

This passage is not from the Soncino edition but is from the original
Hebrew of the Babylonian Talmud as quoted by the 1907 Jewish
Encyclopedia, published by Funk and Wagnalls and compiled by Isidore
Singer, under the entry, "Gentile," (p. 617).

This original Talmud passage has been concealed in translation. The
Jewish Encyclopedia states that, "...in the various versions the
reading has been altered, The best among the Egyptians being generally
substituted." In the Soncino version: "the best of the heathens"
(Minor Tractates, Soferim 41a-b]. Israelis annually take part in a
national pilgrimage to the grave of Simon ben Yohai, to honor this
rabbi who advocated the extermination of non-Jews. ("Jewish Press" of
June 9, 1989, p. 56B).

On Purim, Feb. 25, 1994, Israeli army officer Baruch Goldstein, an
orthodox Jew from Brooklyn, massacred 40 Palestinian civilians,
including children, while they knelt in prayer in a mosque. Goldstein
was a disciple of the late Rabbi Kahane who has stated that his view
of Arabs as "dogs" is "from the Talmud." (Cf. CBS "60 Minutes",
"Kahane").

Univ. of Jerusalem Prof. Ehud Sprinzak described Kahane and Goldsteins
philosophy: "They believe it's God's will that they commit violence
against "goyim," a Hebrew term for non-Jews." (NY Daily News, Feb. 26,
1994, p. 5).

Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg declared, "We have to recognize that Jewish
blood and the blood of a goy are not the same thing." (NY Times, June
6, 1989, p.5). Rabbi Yaacov Perrin says, "One million Arabs are not
worth a Jewish fingernail." (NY Daily News, Feb. 28, 1994, p.6).

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rajiv_gandhi@bc.sympatico.ca (Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:

>In article <847410484$19227@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>> Pacifism, that which avoids necessary violence, results in
>> subjugation.

>This may happen, but it not the fault of the pacifist. Since you seem so
>keen on your rape analogy, I¹ll repeat - to hold the pacifist responsible
>for the actions of somebody who is so morally bankrupt, and who chooses to
>attack those who pose no threat and intend no harm, is akin to blaming a
>rape victim for the rape.

It IS the fault of the pacifist if he could preserve and protect the
lives of women and children but refuses to do so because he believe he
is too "righteous" to do so.  That is morally reprehensible.

>> Someone could come into one's house and rape the wife
>> and steal one's possessions.  And you refuse to protect those who need
>> your protection to live. 

>Liar. I never stated that I would refuse to protect them. I said that I
>would not use violence as a means of doing so.

That's right Gandhi -- throw twinkies at them, as if that will stop
them.  There are times when violence is necessary and the refusal to
do use violence is morally wrong, is unethical.  The preservation of
women and children demand it.  I feel sorry for your family if they
are ever in such a bind.  

>> You are a disgrace of a man in my opinion, not even a man.  If you are ever in
>> such a situation, you certainly deserve every ounce of abuse your wimpy
>Brown ass 
>> receives, "Gandhi."

>Whatever, Kurt... uhhh Brian. My refusal to stoop to the level of a person
>who uses violence is my personal choice. Your desire to conquer and
>subjugate everything you see is yours (well, as told to you by the National
>Alliance.)

You are reversing "defening" with "conquering."  I am in favoring of
defending oneself with violence when necessary.   You, however, would
rather get trampled on and your family raped, because you find that is
somehow a 'superior' way to behave.   I reject your values.

>> Like I said, be as passive as you want.  By all means, don't defend
>> yourself.  You certainly won't convince me of a such an ignoble and
>> suicidal philosophy.  Those who have no problems with defending
>> themselves with necessary violence may live and protect themselves and
>> their way of life.  Those who do not are either made slaves or are
>> free to commit suicide.  Given those two alternatives, there's no
>> point in pacificism.  

>Sure there is a point. You simply are too much of a neanderthal to get it.

Yes.  I see your point.  And I reject your point.

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dckom@atlcom.net (dckom) wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Oct 96 23:03:21 GMT c.e., Kevin Alfred Strom
> wrote :
>>
>>Mike Vanderboegh, 1 ACR wrote:
>>> ...
>>> 
>>> The problem is you Nazis are moral and intellectual excrement.  You've
>>> always been moral and intellectual excrement and you will never be
>>> anything other than moral and intellectual excrement....
>>
>>
>>Since no one on this newsgroup, to my knowledge, is a member of any 
>>organization calling itself "nazi," and since no alternative 
>>explantion has been offered, we must interpret the term "nazi" as used by 
>>Mr. Vanderboegh by its context.
>>
>	One serious question, Mr.Strom. I've perused the National Alliance
>book catalog. It contains writings by Adolph Hitler, George Lincoln
>Rockwell,and other self-proclaimed national socialists.
>The question, then, is this, does the National Alliance define itself
>ideologically as national socialist? And if not, why not. 
>I realize this makes two questions, however, if you would take the time to
>answer them, I, and I'm sure the other readers would appreciate it.
>	David Christian 


I'll give it a try.  Our goal is a government dedicated to the racial
progress of White people, and must fit the needs of White people in
THIS period in history.  The White race is in a different position
than in 1933 Germany.  Therefore, our program is not the same as the
NSDAP's platform.   What is called for is White unity on a global
scale:  not merely in Europe, although a number of National Socialists
of that era were Pan-Aryan.   

By the way, tell me:   are you part of the organization "Race
Traitor"?  You sometimes sign your name with that. If so, tell me what
your organization is about and why it believes what it believes.

Brian Smith
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smaceach@polar.bowdoin.edu wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>> smaceach@polar.bowdoin.edu wrote:

>> >sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>> >> Actually, an armed White force against ANY armed Black one, even one
>> >> with far greater numbers, has ALWAYS been a walk-over.  

>> >Brian. Brian, Brian, Brian. Do I have to post that list of European defeats
>> >in Africa for you again? Those were only the big 19th-century ones, BTW --
>> >I can give you a list of earlier ones as well.

>> Considering that you are a notorious poseur, please do.  And I am not
>> talking about isolated battle victories.  I am talking about Whites
>> being defeated and/or enslaved by Blacks -- i.e., losing the war.  

>Oh, dear Brian, now you're talking about 'isolated battle victories'? Certainly
>doesn't indicate that in your original post above, does it? 

The equality of Negroes to Europeans will be demonstrated not in
isolated battles but if the Negro can defeat the White man outright.
Not surprising you missed the point of the post.  

>In fact, battles
>like Adowa and Nsamanku were real show-stoppers for the Europeans -- the latter
>kept the Brits out of Asante for almost 50 years, for example. So yeah, they
>lost the war.  

"Almost" fifty years.  Then the Brits ultimately DID win the war.
Point noted!

>As for enslavement of Europeans by African -- check, what is it,
>the Marine Corps Hymn? at some point. "From the Halls of Montezuma to the
>shores of Tripoli..." Any idea why the Marines were at Tripoli, Brian? They
>were there trying to suppress Mediterranean slave raiding from the North
>African coast. _Lots_ of Europeans enslaved by Africans. 

In Tripoli, these were Europeans fighting Arabs, not Negroes (but you
knew that, "slippery Scott").   Why don't you tell them what happened
when the U.S. Marines went up against these "Africans" Scott?  

>It was even bigger
>before the 18th centry -- I know of at least one Maghrebian slave raid to
>_Iceland_, in the seventeenth century, with people eventually ending up
>in Morocco and Algeria. One man was ransomed eventually, made it back to Iceland
>and wrote a book about it. There are even a few cases of Slavs who were traded
>to Ottoman Egypt -- where there was a _major_ European slave population -- being
>traded to West Africa.

I'm talking about Negroes, per your liberal sesame that Negroes and
Whites are equal.  Ottoman Egypt doesn't count as a "Negro" nation.
But nice try, though, Scott!  I guess in desperationg you're now
trying to use the Arab achievement to "up" the deficiencies of the
Negro.  Sorry -- you're not fooling anyone!

>So back-pedal some more, Brian. You must be getting used to it by now.

The isue is racial equality.  I want examples of Negroes defeating
Europeans in a war and you give me Tripoli  -- a conflict in which
Arabs got their clocks cleaned.  This resembles when I asked you to
produce a first world Black nation you gave me some equivocal pap
about smelting!  

Keep searching for that first world Black nation Scott -- maybe you'll
find one!  (laughing)

>And, before the 19th century... Talancha. Beringué. Ndor. Rychaver. 'Xerië'.
>There were a number of defeats inflicted on fort garrisons along the West
>African coast, IIRC, as well. They were mostly on a smaller scale, 'cause it
>was in the ninteenth century that colonization processes started up in earnest
>-- before that it was mostly the slave trade.

Show me where a Negro nation won a war against any European people --
even despite that the Europeans were ALWAYS outnumbered by the Negro.
The White man entered the continent on a colonial and settling mission
-- and the White man succeeded.   The Negro failed to defeat him,
militarily or otherwise, from his mission.  

On December 16, 1938 a mere 500-man European force defeated the
mightiest Negro Army in Africa -- the Zulus, numbering over 10,000.
The White man met wave after wave of assault from these Negro warriors
and with nerves of steel cut them down.  Then 150 Europeans attacked
the giant horde!  The "mighty" Zulu warriors fled in disarray.  The
only casuaties that day was Praetorius himself:  he got scratched by a
Zulu missile!   Again, White discipline and technological superiority
proved more than a match than any far larger Negro force.  

At any rate, Scott, I'll give you this to chew on:   Had the White man
came to Africa simply to defeat any Black army on the African
continent, he would have done so -- and with a fraction of the forces
of the opposing Black army.   And the Negro could have done nothing
about it.  (snicker)  I bet that just burns you up inside doesn't it,
Scott?  

Poor Scott and his silly little whoppers about racial equality.  So
much juggling and shell-gaming -- and as always, so little proof!  

>And a 'poseur', Brian? Now I'm all hurt. Just what pose am I supposed to be
>maintaining, anyway? See, your problem is that you have to keep intruding onto
>subjects that I actually know something about, just as you do with others on this
>newsgroup -- you can live in Aryan Fantasyland all you want, but when you try
>to make some claims about the real world, you have to workk with real-world
>data.  And you know _nothing_, I repeat, _nothing_ about Africa. Could you
>actually find the place on a map? And the same goes for physical anthropology,
>and evolutionary theory, and...

You are a poseur as you present pseudo-scientific moonshine instead
hard evidence for your "racial equality" dogma (e.g., producing a
first world Black nation).   

Poor Scott:  what a dilemma he's in!  Being a liberal "social
scientist" and all (a.k.a. witch doctor) he is of course religiously
committed a priori to the canon of racial equality between Negroes and
White.  However, Scott can't find the evidence of this anywhere!   

But being wedded to a patent and silly lie is not without benefits:
Scott undoubtedly has "a good time" with the funds of some
addle-headed liberal "African Studies Program" on his various trips to
the Monkey Continent in search of the great, lost "Advanced Negro
civilization"!   Bon Voyage, Scott and don't drink the water!! 

Another day in the life of our dubious "institutions of higher
learning."  (sic)

Brian Smith
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smaceach@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Scott MacEachern) wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>Actually, the problem with South Africa is the White man's mistake of
>>letting Blacks in the country to begin with!  

>Ohhh, Brian. The European colonists didn't admit Africans to South
>Africa. African populations -- Bantu and Khoisan speakers -- were
>_already there_ when the Boers and then the Brits arrived. Europeans
>stole the land from local people. You really don't know anything at
>all about Africa, do you?

That's not what I read.  The only indigenous people in the Orange Free
State were bushmen -- not Negroes.  Either way the White man had no
obligation to allow Blacks participation in their independent White
state.  None whatsoever.  They were foolish enough to do so.  Now that
South Africa has literally been turned over to the savages, the place
is predictably going to straight down the tubes.   Crime has exploded
and the land is returning to its "natural state of African harmony"
(snicker).

>> And even with apartheid Blacks flocked to
>>South Africa in large numbers because they knew the White man's
>>society would furnish them with greater opportunity than their own.

>The only blacks who have moved into Africa in _any_ numbers since the
>establishment of apartheid were the migrant labourers who worked the
>gold and diamond mines. That pattern of migrancy was set up in the
>colonial period, when colonial powers used taxation to generate a
>labour force for those self-same mines. You might take a look --
>assumming you're interested -- at the stats for illegal emigration
>across the border into Mozambique and Botswana after those states
>became indpendent. In fact, it's not surprising that South Africa and
>Zimbabwe had the highest standards of living in sub-Saharan Africa by
>the 1960s -- they were the only places on the continent that had had
>any significant amount of money invested _into_ them, as opposed to
>just having resources extracted.

More excuses for Black deficiency.  Blacks can never pull themselves
by their own initiative -- but have to "wait" until the White man
"invests" into their land.   So much for racial equality!

>>addition to possessing higher basic IQ, Whites as a race possess
>>unique problem-solving and inventive skills entirely lacking in
>>Blacks.

>Dear me, you _haven't_ been paying attention, have you?

Dear me, indeed.  There has been study after study on racial IQ
differences, even by liberal social "scientists" like yourself -- with
the same results.  It is YOU who have been reading one too many p.c.
necromancy tomes, to the point you fail to the see what is obvious to
the man on the street -- the Negro is not equal the White man!  

>>Despite Mr. MacEachern's liberal hat-tricks, he has yet to produce
>>even ONE first world Black nation in existence.   

>Brian, look up the definition for a 'First World' nation. They're
>essentially the Westren victors of World War 2. (So, pop quiz -- you
>know what the 'Second World' nations were?) So of course there are no
>African 'First World' nations. They were mostly colonies at the time,
>and they were -- and are -- poor. (You know any Balkan 'First World'
>countries?)

Excuses and more excuses.  There exists no first world Black nation.
Thank you for the admission, Scott! 

Brian Smith
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"Hummer"  wrote:

>Ian McKinney  wrote in article
><847420383$20041@atype.com>...
>: 
> writes:

>: :>Or at least that's what the guys say
>: :>about her in the gruppenlatrinen.
>: :>
>: :>	Hummer
>: 
>: With a name like "Hummer", I'll bet YOU know quite a lot about what goes 
>: on in latrines.
>: 
>: You're a disgusting piece of filth. And I mean that in the most insulting

>: manner possible.
>: 
>: Yours truly,
>: Ian McKinney


>     Thank you !!  Glad to see that you can dish it out but that you can't
>take it.  He He.

>      Don't like getting the same kind of crap you pass out, do ya ?

>	Hummer

"Hummer":  why don't you prove where Ian has stooped to directing
scatalogical insults at women?   He indeed has not stooped to your
filth.

Brian Smith
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mpitcava@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark T Pitcavage) wrote:


>In article <847441983$21038@atype.com>, Brian Smith  wrote:
>>I'll give it a try.  Our goal is a government dedicated to the racial
>>progress of White people, and must fit the needs of White people in
>>THIS period in history.  The White race is in a different position
>>than in 1933 Germany.  Therefore, our program is not the same as the
>>NSDAP's platform.   What is called for is White unity on a global
>>scale:  not merely in Europe, although a number of National Socialists
>>of that era were Pan-Aryan.

>In other words, had they been in the Nazis' shoes in 1933, they would have done
>the exact same things the Nazis did.

What did the Nazis do?  If you are judging the Germans by the Lies of
the Holofraud -- well, no wonder your view of them is skewed.

Brian Smith
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medintz@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (Mike S. Medintz) wrote:

>Whilst completely naked, AnnDaltyn said unto us:

>>Steven is correct that this is negative behavior, it is against
>>intelligent human nature and the laws of nature.  

>What 'laws of nature' does it violate? The law of geological superposition?
>Does it violate one of the suppressed assumptions of the Lotka-Volterra
>models that I agonized over last semester? Does it somehow contradict F=MA?

Homosexuality is a perversion -- a twisting of the natural function
and intent of the reproductive apparatus as Nature created them. It is
a disease, an aberrancy, an anti-Nature practice, going against the
main procreative purpose of the reproductive organs, thwarting their
procreative purpose, repulsively turning it on its head.  Male
homosexuality specifically damages and is completely contrary to the
purpose and function of the execretory system as well.  It is
disgusting, bizarre, unnatural, and filthy.   An open, growing
prevalence of homosexuality is a sign of terminal decadence and is a
form of chaos and degeneracy which has always foreshadowed the
collapse of order.  

Brian Smith
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smaceach@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Scott MacEachern) wrote:


>rbdwsn  wrote:

>>Brian, we're slowly converting him. Pretty soon he'll be calling his 
>>negro classmates boneheads!:)

>Oh, I doubt that. If I compare the Aryans on this group to the
>Africans and African-Americans that I know -- students, colleagues and
>friends --- the Africans come out waaaayyyyy ahead on intelligence,
>general knowledge of the world and personability. Not that I think
>that Europeans are dumber as a group than Africans, mind you -- just
>that National Alliance seems to self-select for stupid people. Guess
>that your bosses are more comfortable that way...

>Scott

Notice how Scott always REFUSES to use -- as the proper representative
of the Black race -- the average "Negro" as he is found in nature:  in
Africa.   

Instead Scott seizes upon the "Cosby exceptions!"  Who are usually
mulattos and owe whatever cognitive ability and intelligence they
possess to whatever amount of White blood flows in their veins!

If one used the "mean" White as a representative of the White race,
one would find a European with an IQ of about 100, living in an
advanced, civilized society build and created by Whites.   

However, if Slippery Scott suddenly took an honesty pill, and began
properly using the "mean" Black African as the representative of the
Negro race, one would immediately see that the "average" Black is NOT
the "Black" Scott encounters his Ivory Tower -- but rather a biped
which acts and appears to be a throw-back to the missing link, who
lives in abject filth and the most primitive squalor.  

See, the "mean" African is not good for Slippery Scott's voodoo
equality propaganda -- so he simply eschews it!  Quite a convenient
solution to the problem!!

That slippery Scott.

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:


>Robert Ireland  wrote:

>>AHABIZ wrote:
> 
>>> In article <847207087$566@atype.com>, Laura Finsten
>>>  writes:
> 
>>> >Arlin the sweatshirt line of products is not available yet, but you might
>>> >be able to get a t-shirt.  To check them out, take a look at
>>> >http://www1.us.nizkor.org/~fatbroad/zog-1.html
> 
>>> Thanks Laura!  how about coffee cups?  you folks have coffee cups?

>>Beer coasters, I want beer coasters.  Laura, I'll pay extra if you
>>autograph them.

>I don't know why we didn't think of this before. I'll have to talk to 
>the Elders, but I'm sure they'll go for an idea like this.  It is
>really expensive, after all, running such a massive conspiracy and 
>the entire universe all at once.

A people acting in concert for the same agenda is not a difficult task
at all -- and occurs quite naturally.   The Jewish establishment acts
in concert for the same goals and values.   The Jewish media boses,
for example, all propagate the same messages of race-mixing,
"diversity," and anti-White political correctness, without exception.

Mrs. Finsten, you seem to think it is "paranoid" for one to believe
the proposition that people of the same group can both possess and
work for the same goals.  However, shares values and concerted effort
by members of the same group isn't strange or difficult at all -- and
is in fact, quite the norm.

Brian Smith
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smaceach@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Scott MacEachern) wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:
>>Either way the White man had no
>>obligation to allow Blacks participation in their independent White
>>state.  
>Hate to tell you this, Brian, but they didn't 'give it away'. They
>gave up; they saw that they were going to get more and more and more
>resistance to apartheid rule, and maybe even some of them were getting
>a bit civilized, and they gave up. 

In other words they DID voluntarily give it away!

>The funniest bit was watching all
>of your soul-mates from the AWB blathering about how they were going
>to resist to the bitter end. Anyone hear anything about the AWB
>recently -- maybe after his wife caught Eugene Terreblanche in bed
>with an African woman?

The White South Africans were betrayed by the traitorous and
Jew-guided White leaders in the international community.   Otherwise,
the advanced society the White South Africans created would be
thriving.  Now, since they voluntarily handed the country over to the
savages, it is going straight into the tank.   Par for the course!

>>More excuses for Black deficiency.  Blacks can never pull themselves
>>by their own initiative -- but have to "wait" until the White man
>>"invests" into their land.   So much for racial equality!

>Oh, no, me boy. If you have two pieces of territory, one of which is
>getting thoroughly fucked around, and the other of which is getting
>thoroughly fucked around but having roads built for white cars, which
>comes out best at the end? Do the roads make up for the genocide and
>exploitation? Nope.

This just begs the question of why Black cannot build their own roads
and cars, even after being being SHOWN HOW by the White man! 

You constantly make excuses for why Blacks cannot solve their own
problems or advance by themselves, without the White man's help and
even despite of his help!  It appears you are continually making
excuses for Blacks simply to avoid the liberal taboo that the repeated
and consistent inabilities of Negroes might be due to innate traits.  

Quite an incredible attitude to take, considering that genetics are
considered determinative in a 3 to 1 ratio over the environment.  In
the animal world, it accepted without dispute that genetics are a
profoundly more determinative factor than the environment.  However,
when examining people, why -- we CAN'T apply genetic theories!  That
might contradict our preconceived egalitarian theory that differences
AREN'T genetic.  

I find your excuses intellectually dishonest and not compelling in the
least!   But they are p.c. enough to keep you on the tenure track,
Scott -- "which is all that counts"!

>>Dear me, indeed.  There has been study after study on racial IQ
>>differences, even by liberal social "scientists" like yourself -- with
>>the same results. 

>Oh, shall we go over this? Show me the studies, Brian. Let's go
>through all of them, bit by bit. I have to read this stuff for my job,
>just like the African material. Do you know any more about this than
>about Africa? Where shall we start? Bias in IQ tests? Cyril Burt?
>Infant mortality rates? Jensen? Correlation between brain size and
>intelligence? Spearman's g? I've already recommended some stuff to
>your friend Bob on this -- do you want me to repost it for you as
>well?

I don't care how much time or years you spend on these liberals myths.
There are plenty of academics paid to study politically correct
hogwash full-time.  

_The Bell Curve_, among several other works, demonstrated that IQ
different are not culturally based, as tests were administered to
children of different cultures, and foreign Asians without knowledge
of the American culture scored significantly higher than Blacks with
far more cultural familiarity.  

But even if the tests WERE culturally biased, they are biased towards
people who can perform advanced tasks, such as math, neccessary for an
advanced society.   If Blacks as a race do not perform well in areas
of advanced problem solving ability, then that in itself reveals an
innate difference.   And considering that Blacks do significantly
poorer on intelligence tests despite the billions of dollars poured
into their specific education and advancement -- a largesse given to
no other race -- I find the deficiency even more glaring.  

>As I said, there are no Slavic 'First World' nations, either. Does
>that mean that Slavs are Africans?

Slavs can sustain modern societies with advanced infrastructure and
high technology.  Blacks cannot, and do not, except marginally in
those areas in which the White man GAVE it to him; and every Negro
nation that the White man abandons devolves back to the third world!


But no doubt Scott, resident liberal shaman, can brew up a excuse in
his cauldron for that one too!   Throw in herb of clover, leg of frog,
sprinkle it with pseudo-scientific dust, and do an obfuscational
dance!  

Viola!!  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"The name's Scott.  And I'll do ANYTHING to avoid admitting that
genetics has ANYTHING to do with the disparities in Black and White
achievement!  Why, that would be UNTHINKABLE!!"



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"Hummer"  wrote:

>     You make a good point.  I confused Ian's post with yours.  You, Brian,
>are the sack of shit that had to start the "mud people" crap with Ghandi
>just because you don't understand or agree with him.  So, Sorry Ian, I
>meant to rattle Brianazi's cage by cracking on Ann rather than yours'.  

My response was head-shaking disgust at your foul-mouthed, degenerate
trash -- as it was obvious that your scatalogical insults towards Mrs
Daltyn was a deliberate, crude, and base attempt to get a "rise" out
of someone for the cheap and sordid amusement of your low-life,
pathetic, and tasteless little soul.  

>Of
>course, if Ian thinks you were right to sling crap at Ghandi, then he has
>lied in his messages that say he is a separatist and not a supremacist. 
>You, obviously, don't think that there is any reason at all to avoid
>trashing people rather than trying to deal with their opinions.  You're
>actually the one who is so focused on "protect your wife from rape, etc.",
>that  I just wanted to see who would jump up to defend Ann, and it wasn't
>you Brian, was it ?  Ian may actually believe some of what he's saying
>while you appear to just type it in from a crib sheet and then start name
>calling when you don't like the feedback you get.

Repeat your low-life filth to Mrs. Daltyn in my actual presence where
it counts, you cretinous bottom-dweller, and the response you receive
will not be with words.  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

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Subject: Re: MAM Wimps' Ban Violates the Spirit of the Constitution
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Hanson  wrote:

>Brian the constitution guarantees free speech, it does not however
>guarantee an audience.  You and the rest are really insufferable. Get
>Out.

>Hanson

Under your measly definition then, the Constitution guarantees a man
no more of a voice than to his wife and his dog.   

The internet is a public forum.  The newsgroup misc.activism. militia
is available to be read and participated in by the public.  Now you
are heavy-handedly moving to strike all "undesirable" voices from a
public forum -- in a naked dictatorial response of crude supression.  

It doesn't matter whether such a move is "permissible" or "legal."  It
is whether such a move is right or wrong.   It is WRONG.  Such
paleolithic censorship and "banning" of alternative thoughts goes
directly against the spirit of the Constitution, and hardly speaks
well for an group whose raison d'etre is supposedly the upholding of
the Consitution, and the principles on which it stands.  

Brian Smith
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ahabiz@aol.com wrote:


>In article <847419500$19976@atype.com>, mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
>writes:

>>Hahahaha! So, it's going to get worse for us, huh?

>no, you are going to be banned!  wave bye bye little ianazi, wave bye bye!

>Arlin H. Adams

Boy wouldn't Arlin just love that!   Arlin wants, as soon as possible,
to get back to his nice, cozy, uncontested effort to transform the
militia into an organization acceptable to the ADL and Southern
Poverty Law Center.

 Brian Smith
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mike@paranoia.com (Mike Chapman) wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:
>>I do justify extreme measures if those trying to exterminate the White
>>race ultimately do not permit Whites self-determination and an escape
>>from racial annihilation.   

>Hmm Brian, why don't you be more specific.  Your rhetoric is ambiguous
>at very best.  What specific actions do you see as appropriate in the
>US today?  What's your final solution?

A separate area for Whites is the only solution.  

>>However, you claim to be the Constitution's defenders, yet you resort
>>to censorship.   This is blatant hypocrisy.

>Since you're so opposed to censorship, I guess you wont mind it when
>Louis has a million man march on your front dirt patch?

The NA and Black nationalists share the same goal:  racial separation.

>The constitution has UTTERLY NOTHING to do with private censorship.
>Censorship is PROTECTED by the first amendment silly boy.

It doesn't matter whether your action is legal or not.  It violates
the spirit of the Constitution, as it is a dictatorial and suppressive
use of power to stifle other viewpoints in a public forum.

>>For all of your
>>sputtering and baseless accusing of White patriots as "commies," it
>>turns out that YOU, Wizard of Communism, are the biggest commie of
>>them all.   I guess Marx and Lenin taught you well.   Your campaign of
>>censorship is now fully under way.   Congratulations. 

>Hahahahah.  Wait, no, he really said it.  You really believe that the
>Nazis weren't censors?  I guess if socialism isn't marxism anything is
>possible...  

So in other words, if Nazis censored something then you have the right
to censor also?  I guess your condemnation of Nazis is rendered a
transparent hypocrisy as well.

Brian Smith
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druidhere@aol.com wrote:

>There is strong rumor that the NA has said, it will cause a battle between
>militia and feds, at which point, the NA will leap in and take three
>states.  I am not asking that this be verified, but I would like to point
>out to that the Pentagon is the most powerful Python in the world, and
>anyone who thinks they are going to play war with the Pentagon will find
>themselves in a sorry state.   Anyone out there running around building
>pipebombs is in some little pretend land of "versus BATF" has fallen
>asleep.  We, on this soil, have a very caeful relationship with that
>Python because it is "our" military.  Ladies and Gentlemen, who claim to
>see through propaganda, the Pentagon is the most feriocious Python walking
>planet earth!  It can't have its own populaton shaking at its bite.   You
>anger that Python into action...and Gods help us all.

Actually I find the NSA more ominous, but that is the difference
between trying to singlehandedly take on a hungry grizzly bear or an
17-foot croc -- armed with only a tree stick.  There is no question
that all anti-government forces combined and doubled are totally
unequal to the task.  The current U.S. government is the most
monstrous and dangerous weapon and enemy against freedom ever to exist
-- far more dangerous than the Soviet regime.   It will not be brought
down except through a protracted revolutionary effort involving
patriots both on the inside of it and out.   

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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druidhere@aol.com wrote:

>People, I have been in and out of this newsgroup for two years.
>I have been reading, talking, and butting in.  Everyone, across the board
>is hypersensitive about US federal agents infilitrating, and civilian
>opposition groups causing problems.  

>One thing that at this time, I do think, everyone in the newsgroup from
>all walks of life can agree on is that the NA is looking a bit too
>differently these days.

>This post is called, "How Mature Are You?"  Are we ALL big enough boys and
>girls to cope with the possibility that something alien entered the NA? 
>It is increasingly smelling like foreign intelligence.  Does anyone know
>the exact warning signs of foreign intelligence playing on this soil?  ADL
>turned out to be foriegn agents.  Anyone care to volunteer "What it felt
>like, or looked like?"

>I do not think Brian would be anything but a pawn.  I don't know the NA
>anymore.  I can't recognize the NA.   There was an indicident in Chicago
>of a street gang connecting to Middle Eastern Intelligence.
>I think a foreign intelligence entered uninvited into the NA.

>NA, may I ask you, in the past few years have you noticed anything odd? 
>Has someone been trying to tell something they bumped into, noticed, saw,
>and everyone else is saying, "Ah, your just nuts!"

>Help Brian.  Help by posting some articles about what it looks like if
>foreign intelligence lurks.  Lets educate Brian.  Whatever happens in
>Brians life, and along his path in his cause, let is all make sure he
>knows exactly what it is like.  Lets make Brian a real sophisticated dude.


There is a warning issued to all NA members to steer clear of anyone
trying to encourage illegals acts or illegal weapons possession.
Enemy infiltration is something that must be faced and ultimately
dealt with.   But one must view it as inescapable.  I have had my
suspicions before, and I always assume one can't be too careful or
paranoid.   

The movement's history is full of disastrous cases of FBI agents
suggesting to patriots violent and premature acts, often under the
admonition "You guys are wimps!  You should DO something against the
government instead of just talking about it!"  It is depressing to
realize these FBI agents have more allegiance to their pension and
their law enforcement fraternity than to their own people.  But such
is life.  

The New World Order is determined to achieve total domination and it
will stop at nothing to achieve its sinister goals.   All this sounds
crazy to the average beer-swilling boob.  These are not socially
acceptable opinions -- e.g., the belief that the current government is
evil -- but they are opinions more and more people are adopting after
getting a wiff of the government's behavior and cover-ups at Waco and
Ruby Ridge.  

I maintain those two massacres revealed that the current government is
a heartless beast without soul or conscience, an unblinking, mindless
leviathan in the service of evil.  Those two events formally
established for all time the irreconcilable gulf between patriots on
one hand and New World Order lackeys on the other.

However, I do not view the situation as hopeless or the present
government order as impervious.  All that is evil or anti-Nature
cannot stand indefinitely.  

Brian Smith
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ahabiz@aol.com wrote:

>I have to say that I'd be hardpressed to find a better example of general
>nazi ignorance than the following statement by brianazi!  - Arlin H. Adams

>In article <847412355$19484@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>Actually, the problem with South Africa is the White man's mistake of
>>letting Blacks in the country to begin with! 


The Orange Free state was settled by Boers moving northward from Cape
Hope after British domination, and they found the land relatively
clear except for bushmen.  

What is it you were saying, Arlin?

Brian Smith
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"Hummer"  wrote:

>     Didn't you know ?  Air travel was invented in the first place so that
>the white natives of Africa could more easily import blacks.
>     I don't know who is funnier, black racists or white ones.  Louis
>Farakan says that about a gazillion more blacks were shipped here than
>actually were and Brian says blacks were only in Africa cause the white
>folks let them in the first place.  

Even had the Boer's settled in Black lands and built a country there,
Whites had no obligation to permit Blacks' participation in it.
Blacks already had their own "countries" (if you could call them
that!)   However, as always is the case, Negroes sought out the White
man for greater opportunity.   And the White man foolishly obliged. 

As "funny" as you find racial feeling, "Hummer", it is the rule among
non-Whites and will dominate the country more and more as time goes
on.   It is natural and inevitable.  

This insures your multiracial pseudo-constitutionalism will become
more irrelevant, and you and Arlin's beer-drinking sessions even more
prosaic.

Brian Smith
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mpitcava@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark T Pitcavage) wrote:


>In article <847158509$21511@atype.com>, Brian Smith  wrote:
>>
>>mpitcava@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark T Pitcavage) wrote:
>>>>>This is all very funny.  If the Holocaust was a lie concocted by anti-Germa
>ns
>>>,
>>>>>can you tell me how come there are extensive -German-  records showing
>>>>>how Reserve Order Police Battalion 101--a tiny unit of less than 500 men--i
>n a space of just a couple years murdered tens of thousands of Jews directly 
>and transported tens more of thousands to Treblinka?
>>>>
>>>>>Can you furthermore tell me how it is that not only German wartime records
>show this, but also the postwar testimony of the battalion's own members?
>>>>
>>>>>And that's just -one- tiny unit.
>>>>

>>>>Let us begin this discussion.   Now, are you referring to what is
>>>>called the Einsatzgruppen?
>>
>>>No.  A unit in the Ordnungspolizei.
>>
>>What's your primary source, under whose command was this battalion,
>>and what is the IMT document number.  There are so many lies and
>>exaggerations in the Holocaust Hoax you have to be very specific.

>Are you trying to tell me you've never even -heard- of this unit?  There are 
>two very well-known case studies of it.  If you've never even heard of this 
>unit, how on earth can you consider yourself knowledgeable enough about the 
>Holocaust to make any sort of judgments or pronouncements on it?

I know the extermination by gassing myth pretty well, and that is the
heart of the Holocaust.   However, if what you're referring to is so
"famous" surely you can produce at least one credible quote somewhere,
can't you?

Brian Smith
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carl skutsch  wrote:

>Mr. Smith, you are correct.  'Whites' are outnumbered by non-Whites, and
>may very well disappear as a seperate racial category.  And I, a white guy,
>could care less.  

Carl's statement expresses the peculiar and sad White drive to
self-extinction quite well!   

However, those of us who value our White race are determined to secure
its survival by any means necessary.

Brian Smith
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pka00085@alpha.wvup.wvnet.edu wrote:

>>The Bolshevik revolution, as was Marxism itself and the first
>>Communist government, was a Jewish created and dominated affair.  Its
>>success was made possible by a timely $20 dollar sum given from Jacob
>>Schiff (Jew).

>>Brian Smith
>>www.natall.com

>This little nazi seems to have a fetish with Jewish people. Do you
>wonder why moderated newsgroups are  banning  this creep?

Actually, Jews seem to have a fetish with subverting and destroying
White societies.  It is quite an extraordinary and consistent
phenomenon.  Very interesting, and needless quite a concern for those
Whites who value their race.

Brian Smith
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dsf3g@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (David Salvador Flores) wrote:

>In article <556vqu$g78@is05.micron.net>, Brian Smith  wrote:
>>v064mb9k@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (NEIL GANDLER) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <327448F6.46E1@hamptons.com>, unabomber@hamptons.com writes...
>>>>Brian Smith wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I received a very interesting e-mail from one "Robert Alpert" today.
>>>> 
>>>Hey Brian, do you believe everything you read on the internet, have
>>>you aver heard of sarcasm. Do you still believe in Santa Claus or the
>>>Tooth Fairy.
>>
>>The letter rang all too true, I'm afraid:  sarcasm or no.

>Only if you've completely lost touch with reality.

The reality is that Jews control the media.   The media is the
greatest and most influential force on earth for molding people's
opinions and attitudes.   And the media continually pushes
pro-diversity, race-mixing politically correct propaganda in virtually
every sit-com and movie, and continually pushes the multiracial line.


For evidence of the Jewish control of the media, indicating who owns
or runs which media company, please to go to
http://www.natall.com/WHORULES/WHORULES.HTML

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



From sbrian@micron.net Sun Nov 10 07:00:35 PST 1996
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kate@accessone.com (Kathleen Mulhern) wrote:

>In article <560dkp$mkd@opera.iinet.net.au>, reverend@iinet.net.au wrote:

>*Hmm - do you really have to resort to insults?? 

>Hmm... brian is an ignorant racist and a proud member of the national
>alliance, a Holocaust denier who simply ignores what proves his racist,
>hateful agenda wrong and a believer in a fictional "a pure white race" who
>deems blacks, Jews, etc. as "mud."  He insults my heritage, my friends, my
>family and my beliefs by spouting his hateful rhetoric constantly with
>absolutely no comprehension of facts, research or historical evidence.  In
>other words... yes.  I do have the right and the joy of resulting to
>insults with this particular piece of excrement, thank you.

In other words, she has no qualms about responding to other viewpoints
with embittered and irrational ad hominem.

>*Historians (or at least GOOD Historians) view eyewitness testimony as
>*a mere snapshot. They are aware that bias, elaboration and emotion
>*often distort the true picture.
>*
>*It may be sought after, but it should be placed under the utmost
>*scrutiny.

>Living eyewitness testimony is the most sought after piece of primary
>source material for ALL real historians, as it provides first hand
>accounts of an actual event.  

There is no physical evidence for the Holocaust.  Also, the existence
physical evidence that DOES exist, contradicts the Holocaust.  (For
example, why were there hospitals at the so-called "death camps" if
the Germans were supposedly trying to exterminate?) 

The amount of gas traces found in the so-called gas chambers, as found
in the Rudolph and Leuchter report, indicate that Zyklon B was only
used as an insecticide:  precisely as it was designed.   However,
truth was in short commodity at the end of WWII where the Allies could
do whatever they wished with their captive German prisoners:
including framing them at the Nuremberg kangaroo court of "justice".

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
http://www.codoh.com/
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
http://www.air-photo.com/
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html

>Obviously, one piece of live eyewitness
>testimony is not and should not be relied upon. The search for
>corroborative live eyewitness testimony and corroborating physcial
>evidence validates the first hand accounts and makes those accounts the
>best piece of evidence available.  

The eyewitnesses of the Holocaust are hopelessly contradictory.  Many
claims fanciful claims, no long discredited, that Germans were trying
to kill them by electrocution and steaming.   Neither had any physical
evidence.   Neither does extermination by gassing.

>In the case of the Holocaust, living
>eyewitness testimony is being and has been corroborated among hundreds of
>people, from Survivors to liberators (including Gen. Douglas McArthur) and
>nazis, and has been corroborated with other primary source material, such
>as photographs, film footage, written documentation and audio tapes, and
>has also been corroborated with physical evidence, such as the mass
>graves, crematoriums, gas chambers with stains from Zyklon B crystals on
>the walls, and the existence of the death camp structures themselves.  

The so-called "documentation" for the Holocaust is threadbare and all
rely on interpreting a couple of keywords creatively and as
"codewords" -- for which there is no other evidence for such creative
interpretations.


>We
>have only written documentation to conclude that a plague raged throughout
>Europe in the late 14th century, yet somehow, no one seems to be doubting
>that.  We have only written documentation to conclude that a Revolutionary
>war against England occured in America in the late 18th century, yet
>somehow, no one seems to be doubting that event, either.  

Absurd.  There is full documentation for the Revolutionary War and
there is no reason to doubt the Revolutionary War.  There is MUCH
reason to doubt the Holocaust.   Additionally, you may doubt the
Revolutionary War with impunity all you want -- but if you dare doubt
the Holy Holocaust you are met with censure and villification.  They
seem to be hiding something.  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



From sbrian@micron.net Sun Nov 10 07:00:36 PST 1996
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kate@accessone.com (Kathleen Mulhern) wrote:

>*On Fri, 08 Nov 1996 07:55:43 GMT, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>*wrote:

>*>Eyewitness testimony is the most unreliable form of testimony in
>*>existence.  How can you say eyewitness testimony is more reliable than
>*>physical evidence?   

>No, actually, if you knew anything about the history profession, you'd
>know that eyewitness testimony is the most sought after primary source
>material.  People who actually saw the event in question shed much better
>light on that even than any physical evidence.   The testimony has to
>corroborate, which the testimony from Survivors, liberators and nazis
>does, and it has to be reliable, which the testimony of Survivors,
>liberators (one of whom was Gen. Douglas McArthur) and nazis is.  We have
>no physical evidence, no living eyewitness testimony, no pictures, no film
>footage (all of which we have for the proof of the Holocaust occurance) --
>only written documentation to prove the occurance of the plague in 14th
>century Europe, yet I don't see you jumping up and down about that.  We
>have no living eyewitness testimony, no film footage, and no pictures of
>the American Revolution, yet I don't see you debating about that.  We have
>no living eyewitness testimony, no film footage and no pictures to attest
>to the fact that Michelangelo lived and created and died in Renaissance
>Florence, yet you don't seem willing to debate that fact.  The only reason
>you are lying about the fact of the Holocaust is because you are an
>anti-Semitic, hateful, racist, ignorant slob who cannot read and
>understand cold, hard facts when presented to you, and because you lack
>any sort of historical or practical knowledge.  Anyone who thinks there is
>any such thing as a "pure white race..." or any "pure" race at all is a
>complete ignorant slob.

Your analogy to the American Revolution is silly.  There is no reason
to doubt the American Revolution.  However, there is so much
contradictory, absurd, and unsupported in the standard Holocaust myth,
that one familiar with them could only believe it if he quite
credulous.  

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
http://www.codoh.com/
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
http://www.air-photo.com/
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html

If one cannot question historical events, than one can never ascertain
the truth.  If you want to doubt the American Revolution, go right
ahead.  Knock yourself out.  Noone is going to call you "anti-semitic"
for doing so, either, or try to throw you in jail in Germany for
expressing doubt!  If you had counter-evidence to the American
Revolution, it would be accepted as quite a finding.  However, the
counter-evidence to the Holocaust is suppressed.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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Bob Whitaker  wrote:

>John Mitchell wrote:
>> 
>> Brian Smith wrote:
>> >
>> > John Mitchell  wrote:
>> >
>> > >You might try reading reading Stephen Jay Gould's "Mismeasure of Man" and
>> > >Steve Jones's "The Language of Genes". The so called races have no
>> > >scientific basis. Anyways, the achievements of individual scientists and
>> > >mathematicians belong soley to themselves and not to their so called
>> > >"races", religion or whatever.
>> >
>> > You should read Dr. Baker's _Race_ and distinguished Harvard
>> > geneticist Ruggles _Pedigrees of Negro Families_.  The liberal myth
>> > that races do not exist is a great canard of political correctness.
>> > The differences are both obvious to the naked eye and inheres in
>> > various genetic markers and disease immunities.
>> 
>> There is no widespread acceptance of Dr Baker's or Mr Ruggles's theories.
>> Even famous scientists have to convince fellow scientists of the validity
>> of their claims.
>> 
>> >
>> > Brian Smith
>> > www.natall.com


>     There was no widespread argument with Lysencko's theories in
>Stalinist Russia, either.   What's your point?

Liberals evidently think if something is widely accepted by the
politically correct academic establishment, that this is somehow per
se evidence of its truth.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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unabomber@hamptons.com wrote:

>> Brian Smith
>> www.natall.com

>will you shut the fuck up allready and get a life?

I have a life.  But thank you for your concern.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister) wrote:

>Brian Smith (sbrian@micron.net) wrote:
>: amatthews@cybercom.net (Allan Matthews) wrote:

>: >>that a negative White birthrate

>: >Which isn't the case.

>: In many places, such as Finland, the White birthrate is actually
>: NEGATIVE.  At any rate, Whites are being outbred by non-Whites at a
>: rate of at least 3 to 1, certainly in America and in many parts of
>: Europe including France and England.  The White world is being
>: deliberately deluged with Blacks and Browns.  The White race is being
>: gradually and deliberately eradicated.

>Who is responsible for this and why is it being done?

The browning of America and the dissolution of the White race is being
done by a liberal/Jewish coalition with "politically correct" views --
whose morality dictates that for Whites to separate themselves to
preserve their existence is evil, is wicked.  However, the Jewish
separation and preservation of THEIR own state, Israel, is never
condemned. 

The eradication of the White race is being done for a number of
reasons.  Number one  there is an actual movement which wants to
destroy the West and the White race in revenge for "past wrongs.".
Others see the dissolution of the White race as necessary to secure
"world peace" -- a patent hoax.  Other Whites are deliberately
striving for self-extinction, many in response to the self-hatred and
guilt that has been pumped into them.

>: >> coupled with huge invasions of faster-breeding non-Whites,

>: >Which isn't the case.

>: What do you call millions of non-White invaders streaming over our
>: borders whose birthrate is many times higher than Whites?  If this
>: invasion were to cease tomorrow, Whites would STILL be outbred in a
>: few decades by non-Whites.

>Might we have evidence for this?

The government has already predicted Whites will be minority by the
year 2030.  It was also on the front page of Time and has been
featured in several places.   Where have you been?  Just grab a
calculator and punch in the figures for yourself.  Get an almanac and
compare White birthrates to those of the non-White races flooding into
America.   

>: >> along with race-mixing propaganda pumped into Whites by the Jewish media, 

>: >Which isn't the case.

>: Show me that the politically-correct "diversity" race-mixing message
>: isn't inserted into virtually every commercial, sit-com and movie by
>: the Jewish media.  

>You made the original assertion,  you have to back it.

Turn on your television set.  Virtually every media production is
politically correct.   If you cannot see that you are blind indeed.

>: >>adds up to White genocide.

>: >Which adds up, as usual, to the fact Mr. Smith is a lying racist shithead.

>: Actually, you have a long way to go to disproving anything I've said.

>You're just making assertions without proof.

Go to http://www.natall.com/WHORULES/WHORULES.HTML for the PROOF of
the Jewish control of the media, giving names and positions, and
ownership figures.   It's all there in black and White.  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com




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carl skutsch  wrote:

>Mr. Smith, you are correct.  'Whites' are outnumbered by non-Whites, and
>may very well disappear as a seperate racial category.  And I, a white guy,
>could care less.  

Carl's statement expresses the peculiar and sad White drive to
self-extinction quite well!   

However, those of us who value our White race are determined to secure
its survival by any means necessary.

Brian Smith
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pka00085@alpha.wvup.wvnet.edu wrote:

>>The Bolshevik revolution, as was Marxism itself and the first
>>Communist government, was a Jewish created and dominated affair.  Its
>>success was made possible by a timely $20 dollar sum given from Jacob
>>Schiff (Jew).

>>Brian Smith
>>www.natall.com

>This little nazi seems to have a fetish with Jewish people. Do you
>wonder why moderated newsgroups are  banning  this creep?

Actually, Jews seem to have a fetish with subverting and destroying
White societies.  It is quite an extraordinary and consistent
phenomenon.  Very interesting, and needless quite a concern for those
Whites who value their race.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister) wrote:

>Brian Smith (sbrian@micron.net) wrote:
>: amatthews@cybercom.net (Allan Matthews) wrote:

>: >>that a negative White birthrate

>: >Which isn't the case.

>: In many places, such as Finland, the White birthrate is actually
>: NEGATIVE.  At any rate, Whites are being outbred by non-Whites at a
>: rate of at least 3 to 1, certainly in America and in many parts of
>: Europe including France and England.  The White world is being
>: deliberately deluged with Blacks and Browns.  The White race is being
>: gradually and deliberately eradicated.

>Who is responsible for this and why is it being done?

The browning of America and the dissolution of the White race is being
done by a liberal/Jewish coalition with "politically correct" views --
whose morality dictates that for Whites to separate themselves to
preserve their existence is evil, is wicked.  However, the Jewish
separation and preservation of THEIR own state, Israel, is never
condemned. 

The eradication of the White race is being done for a number of
reasons.  Number one  there is an actual movement which wants to
destroy the West and the White race in revenge for "past wrongs.".
Others see the dissolution of the White race as necessary to secure
"world peace" -- a patent hoax.  Other Whites are deliberately
striving for self-extinction, many in response to the self-hatred and
guilt that has been pumped into them.

>: >> coupled with huge invasions of faster-breeding non-Whites,

>: >Which isn't the case.

>: What do you call millions of non-White invaders streaming over our
>: borders whose birthrate is many times higher than Whites?  If this
>: invasion were to cease tomorrow, Whites would STILL be outbred in a
>: few decades by non-Whites.

>Might we have evidence for this?

The government has already predicted Whites will be minority by the
year 2030.  It was also on the front page of Time and has been
featured in several places.   Where have you been?  Just grab a
calculator and punch in the figures for yourself.  Get an almanac and
compare White birthrates to those of the non-White races flooding into
America.   

>: >> along with race-mixing propaganda pumped into Whites by the Jewish media, 

>: >Which isn't the case.

>: Show me that the politically-correct "diversity" race-mixing message
>: isn't inserted into virtually every commercial, sit-com and movie by
>: the Jewish media.  

>You made the original assertion,  you have to back it.

Turn on your television set.  Virtually every media production is
politically correct.   If you cannot see that you are blind indeed.

>: >>adds up to White genocide.

>: >Which adds up, as usual, to the fact Mr. Smith is a lying racist shithead.

>: Actually, you have a long way to go to disproving anything I've said.

>You're just making assertions without proof.

Go to http://www.natall.com/WHORULES/WHORULES.HTML for the PROOF of
the Jewish control of the media, giving names and positions, and
ownership figures.   It's all there in black and White.  

Brian Smith
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smaceach@polar.bowdoin.edu wrote:

>> "Almost" fifty years.  Then the Brits ultimately DID win the war.
>> Point noted!

>Wonderful, Brian. By that logic, the French won the Franco-Prussian
>War -- in Versailles in 1918. And the Germans won World War 2 -- on the
>Berlin Wall in 1989. And the Asante won, too -- in 1956, when the Brits
>left.

Nice try.  Your above examples were not the result of militiary
battles.  Versailles occurred because of a political sell-out --
Germany had already won.   The Berlin Wall -- not a military battle
either.  When the Brits left it was voluntarily again -- not from
militiary defeat, slippery Scott.  

During African colonization, the English army was powerful to take
whatever African land it wanted.  The reverse, however, was not true.
Another debunking of "parity" (sic) between the White Man and the
Negro.

>> The isue is racial equality.  I want examples of Negroes defeating
>> Europeans 

>You haven't seen that list yet? Adowa (10,000 dead/wounded/captured
>Italians). Isandhlwana (1700 dead Brits -- maybe 10 survivors?). 
>Nsamankuru (about 800 dead Brits, IIRC). Shall we continue?

This fails to show parity of the Negro to the White man.  Almost all
of these "battles" are ambushes:  and always of course Whites are
vastly outnumbered.   

As predicted, you have failed to demonstrate Negro "equality" with the
White man militarily.   The historical record reveals the Negro,
militarily -- as in others aspect of civilization -- is inferior to
the White man.   The Negro cannot produce militiary technology like
the White man and so he is therefore helpless -- no match for the
White.   

>> The White man entered the continent on a colonial and settling mission
>> -- and the White man succeeded.

>Ohhh, God, Brian. If they succeeded, where are all the colonies now? 
>And settlement -- do you have _any_ idea of just how little of Africa
>was actually settled by Europeans?

If the White man wanted to stay in Africa, he could have.  And the
Negro couldn't have done a thing about it.   The White man is never
defeated outright by the Negro:   instead the White man always defeats
himself, succumbing to liberal guilt.

>> On December 16, 1938 a mere 500-man European force defeated the
>> mightiest Negro Army in Africa -- the Zulus, numbering over 10,000.
>> The White man met wave after wave of assault from these Negro warriors
>> and with nerves of steel cut them down. 

>Blood River was in _1838_, Brian. You're still having problems with
>chronology, aren't you? And _where_ do you get this prose, anyway -- the
>same komik books that you Aryans for the bimbos on your Web pages?

If typographicals must be seized with ardent fervor then I'll
understand:   your "equality" theory needs every "foothold" it can
get!

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>I will indeed do this some day, if I can ever find the time, because
>I do have a sneaking suspicion that the quotations, where there are
>any, have been taken out of context in such a way as to alter their
>meaning.

Why don't you go ahead and prove me wrong instead of simply telling me
these Talmud "are taken out of context."  The Jewish professor Shakak
discusses the vulgarities and perversions of the Talmud in depth in
his recent book on Jewish history.   

>But since you were able to answer my question to Ann so promptly, I'll
>ask another one.  This one might be a little harder, but I'm sure
>you can do it.

>Now for each of these citations, what has been the nature of Talmudic
>debate over the last couple of centuries about their interpretation?
>In other words, please summarise the opposing major interpretations
>of each one.  You do know, don't you, that the Talmud has been subject
>to intense debate, and that its interpretation and debate is central
>to religious training in Judaism, don't you?

>>Non-Jews are Not Human Baba Mezia 114a-114b. Only Jews are human
>>("Only ye are designated men"). Also see Kerithoth 6b under the
>>sub-head, "Oil of Anointing" and Berakoth 58a in which Gentile women
>>are designated animals ("she-asses").

[snip]

Sorry to disappoint your theory that Jews can do no wrong, Mrs.
Finsten, but the Talmud is well-known source of anti-Gentile venom,
containing unspeakably disgusting practices and open, unequivocal
declarations of Jewish supremacy.   Read Professor Shakak's book,
discussing these issues of the Talmud in depth.  It's a real
eye-opener. 

>>------end text-------

>Oh, I see, you clipped this from somewhere and pasted it in.  I guess
>I'm not so impressed by your research skills after all.

"End text" were MY words.  But under your definition cutting and
pasting is a discredited form of posting?

That's a new one.

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>>The flaw of libertarianism is that it will never succeed because races
>>as a whole will never subordinate their racial loyalty and group
>>identities (biological instinct) to a mere intellectual philosophy of
>>individualism.

>You haven't been paying attention to Scott's lessons about "races",
>have you, Bri.  Your notion of "racial loyalty" is nothing more than
>a philosophy founded in the fascist politics.

Yeah, I've heard slippery Scott's "lessons about races."  He claims
there is no difference between an African pygmy and a Scandanavian
Nordic.   

Anything to keep that politically-correct "Foundation money" rolling
in for more "fun" trips to the money continent!

>>Ironic to your quote, Jews are really the ONLY ones in the West who
>>are striving to make certain thoughts a crime -- and Jews have already
>>succeeded in criminalizing Holocaust denial in Europe in classic
>>Orwellian style.  If one expresses "doubt" about the Holocaust, one is
>>sent to prison for up to five years.   Jews are also in the vanguard
>>of Orwellian "hate crime" laws -- where if one says something deemed
>>offensive by a minority (usually Jews report the most "offenses"),
>>than one will then be prosecuted under criminal law.

>A couple of problems here.  Nobody can be prosecuted for what they
>"think", only for what they do with what they think.  Unless you
>actually believe that it is possible to read minds, quite literally.

Sure.  As long as you keep your mouth shut, and don't dare 'express'
an opinion, things will go just fine for you!   Some freedom indeed!

>Germany does indeed have laws against Holocaust denial, and I note
>that many people, including Jews, have spoken out against those laws.
>But how many other European countries have such laws, Brian?  The
>Labour Party in the UK has said that it would pass such a law if it
>wins the next election, but there is no law against Holocaust denial
>at present.  What about Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, France?
>Faurisson hasn't been charged or imprisoned, to my knowledge.

France just prosecuted someone for carrying a revisionist book.
England is next and already has "hate crime laws" which have sent
several to jail for "saying the wrong thing"!  

Revisionism is also suppressed by Jewish intimidation and boycott.
The knee-jerk reaction is always "so what:  that's legal!"  The point
is Jews use there power to ban and suppress the truth about the
Holocaust Hoax in demonstrations of open bigotry.  Jews are also in
the fore of passing Orwellian "hate crime" laws.  

>How many countries actually *have* these "hate laws", Brian?  Canada
>does, I know, but they have rarely been used, and there has only been
>one conviction under them that I am aware of.  School teacher lying
>to his history students, and he certainly was not sent to prison.

The fact that the Jews have succeeded in pushing through thoughtcrime
laws at all in itself speaks volumes.   

>It strikes me that you are exaggerating the extent of laws against
>Holocaust denial and of hatred in speech.  And it also occurs to me
>that you are overplaying the role of Jewish organisations in these
>areas.  And ignoring the fact that many Jews and other *non-racists* 
>and people who do not deny the historicity of the Holocaust have 
>spoken out against such laws, and in many cases taken quite vocal
>stances against them. 

Oh crap.  Jewish are the guiding force behind these Orwellian laws.
And the Jewish ADL has been pushing "hate crime" laws for years.  

I don't see the Jews organizing to oppose them.  Jews get organized
quite often whenever they want to oppose something.  Jews organized a
long list of Jewish organizations to protest for the release of
Jonathon Pollard -- a Jewish spy for Israel.  Yet Jews don't protest
to oppose these thoughtcrime laws.  There is no serious Jewish
opposition to them.

Brian Smith
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mpitcava@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark T Pitcavage) wrote:

>>What did the Nazis do?  If you are judging the Germans by the Lies of
>>the Holofraud -- well, no wonder your view of them is skewed.

>What did the Nazis do?  Well, that's a good question.  Let's see.  They invaded
>Poland, Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, France, 
>Yugoslavia, Greece, the Soviet Union, Egypt, Tunisia, and Great Britain (the 
>Channel Islands).  

Interesting.  After France and England declared war on them and the
U.S.S.R was also moving towards Europe.  Occupying outposts of land
for military purposes is a common military tactic -- used often by the
U.S. by the way.  

>They slaughtered six million Jews and six million non-Jews.

Here you only repeat again the same Holocaust lie.  Learn something
for once:

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
http://www.codoh.com/
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
http://www.air-photo.com/
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html

>They used millions of French and other workers as slave labor.  

So the U.S. STARVED millions of Germans to death and handed over
millions of anti-communist Europeans to the Soviet Union for sure
torture and death.  The U.S. also bombed German civilian cities with
no strategic value whatsoever, just to deliberately incinerate as many
unarmed civilians, women and children as possible.  

Now.  You were saying about the "eeeeevil" Germans?

Brian Smith
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varange@crl.com (Troy Varange) wrote:

>AHABIZ and Mark Pitcavage are true scum who hate 
>everything we stand for.

>OTOH, The National Alliance supports militias and
>opposes gun control.  

>The NA are our friends, who stick up for us against
>the scum who want to suppress the militias.

Thank you!

Brian Smith
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a0003517@airmail.net ("Homesteadr" James Vallaster) wrote:

>These piss jar, cum bag, bus station toilet boys have the
>nerve to call for 'White Unity'. This is a completely obvious
>ploy to divide and conquer. These Neo-Nazis have only
>one object - to destroy the  good things we would fight
>for, in favor of the ignorance and bestiality that they
>worship. If they have a hand out to you, it means they
>have a gun in the other behind their back. 

>Stay away from the National Allliance / Neo-Nazi
>trash, even if they are white-trash. They are not
>very smart, they don't bathe very often, and
>they have nasty little habits. But far worse than
>that, take any given Neo-Nazi and you find
>a federal agent

This guy's unsubstantiated, filthy, and bigotted gibberish makes those
toothless fellows in the movie "Deliverance" appear rarified in
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Brian Smith
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ahabiz@aol.com wrote:

>my most humble appologies if we offended you or any of the other non-nazi
>women on the newsgroup.  I'm sorry, but I thought we'd made it clear that
>we aren't even certain that the person posting under the 'ann daltyn'
>pseudonym is female...because the neo-nazis tend to have very
>stereotypical, and negative, views of women, the poster is most probably
>male...they wouldn't allow a woman to post on the net, except for rare
>propaganda purposes.  our intent was and is to throw the netnazis off
>balance emotionally, and this was one effort to do so.  Again, my most
>humble appologies for any and all remarks you found offensive.

>Arlin Adams

For you information Arlin, Mrs. Ann Daltyn is -indeed- a female and
she happens to be highly attractive as well as highly intelligent.
She -- as well as all females in the National Alliance -- is afforded
the highest respect and honor.   

However, the disgusting insults and latrine humor used by some of
Arlin's buddies against Mrs. Daltyn, I wouldn't use on my worst enemy
-- far less against any woman.  

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>We'll figure it out Mrs. Finsten.

>Given that you seem to have leapt to the (erroneous) conclusion that I
>am Jewish, my confidence in your ability to do so is not great.  

You espouse the Jewish interest, you sign your name with Emma
Goldstein, and your name is Finsten, similar to Feinstein.  Concluding
"Jewish" is not a wild guess.  

>A major
>difficulty seems to be the fact that you are confusing minor differences
>in gene frequencies between populations with genetic markers that
>distinguish races.  I mean really, in practical terms, imagine a scenario
>where I am required to prove that I am not Jewish.  How would I do that?

Appearance is very determinative.  Also background.  Also, if you are
Jewish you probably won't even apply for entrance into a White nation
to begin with, because Jewish influence, customs, and norms will be
prohibited.   That fact will be an effective deterrent in itself.
Obviously, if you have a large hooked nose and a well-known Jewish
last name, you probably will presumed Jewish, a rebuttable inference.
If a few Whites get excluded that is a small price to pay for
separation. 

Even if some non-White fake their way through, the goal of separating
what is left of the White race from further dissolution will still be
achieved.  That is the main goal.  We can handle a few questionables
as long as a White gene pool is separated from this multiracial
sludge.   Seen in this light, distinguishing between White and
non-White is not a problem at all.

>Of course, I imagine that I wouldn't be "White", anyway, in National
>Appliance terms, because my ideology is all wrong.  If The Turner Diaries
>is any sort of benchmark, the vast majority of North Americans (exclusive
>of Mexico) aren't "White" enough for the National Appliance.  

Please be specific in your claims.   Where does it say in the Turner
Diaries what you are claiming?

>What I find
>really fascinating about National Appliance racial politics is the way
>an individual's "race" can change over the course of their lives, and the
>way genetically identical people (identical twins) theoretically can belong
>to different races.  It truly is amazing!!  

How so?  

>>White values are those which dominate and reflect the soul of the
>>European people, and are appear in Whites most prevalently in White
>>societies.  Honor, valor, chivalry, altruism (no other races possess
>>as much altriusm as Whites do, and it being exploited), empathy,
>>adventure, discovery, love of Nature.

>Yeah, I can see that you're so "empathetic" and "honourable" that you think
>you can identify my religion and/or ethnic background based on a couple of
>posts.  You actually believe this ethnocentric nonsense, don't you?  

Well, are you Jewish or not Mrs. "Finsten"?  

>>Many are values contrast
>>sharply to the Jewish values of materialism, commercialism, and
>>cosmopolitanism which have been unnaturally and destructively imposed
>>on Whites.  However, the Japanese did create an honor code, similar to
>>Europeans, and I respect them for that.

>This I find amusingly ironic.  Jews are responsible for both commercialism
>and communism?????  Do you know anything about the roots of mercantilism
>and why it was so important in the history of Europe?  Why do I have the
>feeling you are defining "cosmopolitanism" in "racial" rather than cultural
>and linguistic terms?  

Jews did not "create" commercialism -- they simply value it higher
than Whites as a race do when Whites live in a homogenous White
society.  Communism, on the other hand, is based on Marxism.   Marx
was a Jew.  Bolshevism was a predominantly Jewish affair.

>>A stereotype which contradicts existing propaganda reflects a general
>>truth:  otherwise it couldn't exist.  The stereotype of the Jewish

>Uh Mr. Smith, the same stereotype, however, did *not* contradict existing
>propaganda in Germany and its occupied territories in the 1930s and 1940s.
>So does that then mean that the stereotype couldn't exist then????

Note the stereotype of the money-grubbing Jew existed long before Nazi
Germany, and in fact has always existed.  

>>That is not what I mean by "cohesion" in this context.  Vis a vis the
>>White race and non-Jews generally, Jews are cohesive.  

>Funny thing that.  Events in Europe in the 1930s and 1940s seem to have made
>an impression on them: that they couldn't count on their governments to look
>out for their basic rights, and that ignoring strident antisemitic rhetoric
>could quite literally be deadly.  

Whatever the reason Jews have always been highly cohesive as a people
and have always put allegiance to their own above their host country.
They also have the unique ability to network across national lines and
posess the finances to profoundly influence over domestic and
international affairs -- to enforce the Jewish agenda on a global
scale.  The Jew is a danger to the White man and now stands on the
verge of destroying the White man for all time.  

>Oh, I forgot that you think the Holocaust
>is a myth.  Is it only the 6 million dead Jews that you think is a lie, or
>do you think that the 6 million dead Gypsies, homosexuals, Poles, labour
>unionists, prisoners of war and others are also a lie, Mr. Smith?

The holocaust numbers are grossly exaggerated.  Extermination by
gassing is a myth.  The "Holocaust" is a political tool of anti-White
propaganda to secure benefits for the Jews and morally bludgeon Whites
into compliance with the Jewish agenda.

>It is certainly true that there are a number of active and quite vocal Jewish 
>organisations concerned with equal rights.  But it is also true that there are a
>lot of Jews who have nothing to do with those organisations, are not particularly
>observant (if at all), and yet for you, their Jewishness is still their most
>salient characteristic.  Now why is that, Mr. Smith?  Do you want to get into
>the nitty-gritty of genetically determined behaviours here, or are you just
>going to reiterate the same old stereotypes one more time?

Whatever the details are Mrs. Finsten, Jews further their own
interests as a people.  It is a very basic fact, one that follows, is
logical, and has repeated itself time and time again.  

The agenda of the Jewish establishment, which favors multiracialism,
is completely incompatible with the health and welfare of the White
race for obvious reasons.  Whites must liberate themselves from Jewish
influence if they wish to survive as a people.

Brian Smith
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Arlin posts behind every single reponse like some sort of weird
obsessive bot.   On 11-5-96 Arlin sent 16 replies to posts between
10:18 am and 10:21am.   He is obviously posting just to register a
reply -- regardless of how makeshift, cursory, or stupid the reply is.


95% of what the man writes is adolescent drivel.  He usually hones on
a single word to the exclusion of the entire post, or cackles at a
exchange from the gallery like some deranged carrion bird.  He is a
consummately foolish man painfully in need of something productive to
do with his time.  

Brian Smith
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mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney) wrote:

>:>I suggest that you speak to some of your compatriots on that -- Smith,
>:>McKinney et al could give anyone lessons on how to hate people. And
>:>apartheid hasn't exactly been a successful strategy for reducing tensions
>:>where it's been applied either -- it turns out to be just a cover for
>:>exploitation, 'cause if people are so different that they have to be segregated,
>:>then groups just _have_ to be superior or inferior,......... 

>Your premise is absolutely false and therefore so is your conclusion. White 
>separatists have no desire to be "superior" to non-whites in their midst. 

"Slippery Scott" MacEachern is just doing his darnest to try
pigeon-hole White nationalists  -- he evidently has quite an ignorant
and uninformed view of White separatist goals.   I guess such is the
norm when one is trying to smear rather than learn the facts.  

Brian Smith
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ron.schwarz[at]nethawk.com (Delete spam-buster ([at]) to reply) wrote:

>On Wed, 06 Nov 1996 20:22:20 GMT, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>wrote:

>>-actually- being eradicated and engulfed.   Number two, it takes few
>>brain cell to realize that a negative White birthrate coupled with
>>huge invasions of faster-breeding non-Whites, along with race-mixing
>>propaganda pumped into Whites by the Jewish media, adds up to White
>>genocide.

>He's right about that first part.   In fact, the *fewer* the brain
>cells, the easier it is to realize the second part.

>The problem arises when people with *more* than a "few brain cells"
>are unable to perceive Brian's Special Reality.

I suppose Ron has so many brain cells that he need not conclude the
result of the negative White birthrate.  The man is so intelligent as
to be beyond mere linear math.

Brian Smith
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Richard Latker  wrote:

>Some fool wrote:

>> >Gus Hall is Jewish.  His real name is Arvo Mike Halberg.

>Gus Hall is Finnish (and an unreconstructed Stalinist), not Jewish. Ask
>him yourself -- the Communist Party USA has a web page & an e-mail
>address. Who gave you this load of crap?

Verify Gus Hall's name for yourself.  The man's real name isn't "Gus
Hall."

>> >Andropov was Jewish.

>You really aren't too bright. Yuri Andropov -- a steely-blue
>eyed white Russian, was about as Jewish as George Wallace.

I was referring to the Andropov below associated with Hungarian
revolution.  
 
>> >Out of the first Communist government in Russia, out of 371 all but 17
>> >were Jewish.  Over 200 were Jews from the lower east side of New York.

>What crap. I've seen this assertion before in National Alliance
>literature. What are you referring to? The state itself? The Communist
>Party Central Committee? You don't know, and you don't care -- your just
>spreading the old manure cause it still stinks.

>From  Volume III of United States Senate Document No. 62, 66th
Congress, First Session: 

"Out of 388 members of the new Russian government, only 16 happened to
be Russians. One was an American Black. All the rest, 371, were Jews.
Of these 371 Jewish Bolshevik leaders, no less than 265 of them were
>from  the Lower East Side of New York City."

Look up the Congressional record for yourself -- don't take my word
for it.

>The Bolsheviks had a few Jews -- Trotsky, Zinoviev come to mind --
>which isn't surprising, since Jews were so strongly represented in
>Russia's  intelligentsia. There were also Jewish Menshiviks, SRs and
>Cadets. The original force behind the Bolshevik seizure of power were
>Russian workers, to whom Lenin (not Jewish) lied: "All Power to the
>Soviets!"

Lenin was a half-Jew.  A prominent article are Lenin was in _Time_
Magazine fairly recently and the article mentioned Lenin's Jewish
background  The Bolshevik leadership was overwhelming Jewish --
grossly disproportionate to the population of Jews.

>> >Virtually every head of the KGB/NKVD/MVD/OGPU and
>> >whatever other acronym the Soviets used to describe their
>> >genocidal secret political police, as been JEWISH.  Yagoda,
>> >Yezhov, Trotsky, Andropov, and Beria.

>Trotsky never headed the NKVD. Yes, Beria was a sleazebucket and he
>also happened to be a Jew (who gleefully imprisoned and shot Jewish
>seminarians and scholars). Andropov, who supervised the suppression of 
>the Hungarian revolt in 1956 (but later elevated numerous liberals to
>prominence, including Gorbachev), was not. I don't pretend to know about
>the other two.

The creators and administrators of the gulag were almost Jewish as
well.  The four leaders of the October Revolution were Zinoniev,
Trostsky, Kemenev, and Lenin -- the first 3 being Jews, and the 4th a
half-jew who was married to a Jew (Krupsakaya).  The Bolshevik party
was dominated by Jews from top to bottom.   As were -every- single
Communist movement and attempted or sucessful takeover in Europe --
>from  Germany to Hungary to Latvia to Spain.   The Jewish domination of
communism is all the more significant given that they were always a
small minority of the country.  

>The point that a lot of early Communist activists were Jews is a pretty
>ridiculous premise upon which to base a conspiracy theory.
>European Jews were an educated, yet alienated bunch, who would of course
>look to radical solutions promising justice & equality. They were
>certainly a small minority among Jews, as they advocated the abandonment
>of all religions, including their own.

"...there is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself. In the
fact that so many Jews are  Bolsheviks. In the fact that the
ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with the finest ideals of
Judaism." (The Jewish Chronicle, April 4, 1918)

"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish
brains, of Jewish  dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning,
whose goal is to create a new order in the world. What was
performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish
brains, and because of Jewish  dissatisfaction and by Jewish
planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The
American Hebrew, September 10, 1920)

"It is not an accident that Judaism gave birth to Marxism,
and it is not an accident that  the Jews readily took up
Marxism. All that is in perfect accord with the progress of
Judaism and  the Jews." (Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews
and an Answer to all AntiSemites, p. 148,  1939)

Jews created and pioneered Communism.  

>You're just parroting old-line anti-semitic trash.

You're just parroting the same old philo-semitic apologia.

Brian Smith
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jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:

>In article <55u28a$ggu@is05.micron.net>,
>   sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:
>::Noone is saying a lot of people didn't die.  However, typhus epidemics
>::do not prove extermination by gassing.   The Jews claim Hitler was
>::trying to exterminate Jews but this claim has no physical evidentiary
>::basis.

>Point your web browser to CNN and check out documents newly released by US 
>government containing German military reports of the extermination of Jews 
>from early in 1941. No documents indeed. The Nazis documented the entire 
>holocaust in great detail. The documentation is actually so extensive and 
>so complete that one person could not read it all in one lifetime.

I would give it a wait, Jim and let people on BOTH sides of the issue
examine the documents.  

Despite the largest seizure of documents in the history of the world
in Germany after WWII, and with five countries with complete control
of Germany, the Allies could not produce more than 3 measly documents
which could possibly support extermination by gassing -- and even
those had to be creatively interpreted and none of them mentioned
extermination by gassing.   Had extermination by gassing occurred it
would left a huge paper trail.   

I smell another fish.  I would not be surprised.   

Brian Smith
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josephcl@scf.usc.edu (Joseph Clark) wrote:

>Hey brian

What Joe,

>Instead of repeating this same list of web pages over and over and quoting
>history that you can't or won't back up with references, can you tell us
>something that you have personally seen?

Instead of making blanket statements like the above, why don't you
specify the claims you say I have not backed up?  

>Do you know some jewish people who are going to great lengths to
>"perpetuate" the "hoax", or is it just something that somebody told you,
>and that you are dumb enough to believe.  Like examples.  Because I, like
>you, am a white male and am really curious as to what makes you believe
>all that nazi propaganda. I honestly haven't seen any of my friends
>recieving free money from the government or extending control over the
>media.

Various Jews both in America and Europe work together to prevent the
Holocaust Lie from being exposed.  The Jewish ADL for example,
intimidated St. Martin's Press from carrying historian David Irving's
latest book and the book house caved in to Jewish pressure.  The
Jewish media also refuses to run revisionist documentaries or tell the
public of the huge holes in the Holocaust theory.   The historian
Chrstina Jeffries was fired from the White House for even so much as
suggesting that the counter-evidence be examined.  

The only place the counter-evidence to the Holocaust is NOT (yet)
censored is the Internet and the Jewish Simon Weisenthal Center has
already called for banning "hate" from the Internet.

>And when I say jewish people, I mean jewish PEOPLE and not Israel.  Israel
>is a foreign country and our nation's relations with that country are
>political and more or less meaningless.  What american jews do you see
>profiting, and how do you think the holocaust affects their profit?

Jews passively profit from the Holocaust in many ways.  

Jews secure an immunity from criticism because of the Holocaust.  They
also possess a political truncheon to bash anyone who opposes a Jewish
demand as an "anti-Semite" and by extension a "Nazi."   Also, Jews use
the Holocaust to discredit ANY effort by Whites who organize against
their race's destruction, by calling these Whites "Nazis" and "that's
what Hitler wanted to do."   Also, Jers gain from the Holocaust a
moral carte blanche for their "ethnic cleansing" of Arabs from the
land:   which would be denounced if Whites did the same (cf. South
Africa).  And noone DARE suggest that aid to Israel be cut for past
and ongoing brutal atrocities against Palestinian civilians, which
includes torture and the regular killing of Palestinian children.

These political benefits and privileges. devolve to the Jewish people
as a whole.   

>Oh, and one of my jewish friends told me that he doesn't know anywhere he
>can go to get free money or influence elections or whatever, but that if I
>found out about any such banks or organizations, he would be more than
>happy to know where, so please tell us.

See above (i.e., passively profitting).

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

>Joseph Clark




>In article <55gcsb$oa0@is05.micron.net>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>> 
>> Jews always try to get non-Jews involved in the Holocaust, so non-Jews
>> will support this great Jewish cash-cow.   
>> 
>> The Holocaust numbers are a huge fake.  Extermination by gassing is a
>> huge fake:
>> 
>> http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
>> http://www.codoh.com/
>> http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
>> http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
>> http://www.air-photo.com/
>> http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html
>> 
>> Brian Smith
>> www.natall.com




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josephcl@scf.usc.edu (Joseph Clark) wrote:

>In article <96314.144654CSKBB@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>, carl skutsch
> wrote:

>> Mr. Smith, you are correct.  'Whites' are outnumbered by non-Whites, and
>> may very well disappear as a seperate racial category.  And I, a white guy,
>> could care less.  I don't care if blacks, whites, hispanics, asians or
>> native americans are the most numerous ethnic group in the world.  As long
>> as it's a world filled decent people (apart from a few Mr. Smiths), I don't
>> give a damn what color they are.  My personal concerns are about as follows:
>> My friends
>> My family
>> My community
>> My country
>> My world
>> Race doesn't play a factor.  Perhaps I should put my world first, but I tend
>> to be biased towards the people I know and see regularly.  So I'd definately
>> defend the rights of a black or jewish friend over those of some white
>> racist in the wilds of America.
>>  
>> Carl Skutsch
>> cskbb@cunyvm.cuny.edu
>> http://members.aol.com/zenfrycook/carl.html


>   Thank you! Thank you for finally putting into words what I haven't been
>able to. I totally agree with you and am glad somebody finally said this.
>I have already seen BS reply to this, and he did exactly what I knew he
>would, calling you a race traitor and accusing you of wanting
>self-extinction.
>   As somebody said to me on a different thread, you're beating a dead
>horse, but that's no reason to stop.  As long as there are idiots like
>brian and the Nazional Alliance out there, keep beating that horse!

>   -Joseph Clark
>   josephcl@scf.usc.edu

It is a "dead horse" to you only because you have no concern or
feeling for or love for the unique people known as "White people" --
Europeans who produced civilizations of unsurpassed advancement,
genius, invention, and achievment.   However, I do not wish to see the
White race destroyed forever by multracial dissolution.   In other
words, I do not favor the White genocide you glibly disregard.   

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



From sbrian@micron.net Wed Nov 13 06:58:50 PST 1996
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jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:

>In article <55u2ku$ggu@is05.micron.net>,
>   sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:
>::amatthews@cybercom.net (Allan Matthews) wrote:
>::
>::>>that a negative White birthrate
>::
>::>Which isn't the case.
>::
>::In many places, such as Finland, the White birthrate 

>Since you have repeatedly failed to give us a biological definition of "white" 
>(which is not surprising, since the so-called races have no biological 
>reality) we are not able to check your "statistics".

Sure Jim.   I'll oblige you just as soon as you give me a "biological
definition" of the spotted owl.  Fair's fair right?

Awaiting your reply.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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kate@accessone.com (Kathleen Mulhern) wrote:

>The Holocaust Museum is a museum to honor those who died in the nazi-run
>death camps before and during WWII and in the dangerously anti-Semitic
>actions of the nazis during this period.  While the other mass genocides
>you mentioned are certainly... well... worth mentioning and remembering,
>those groups will have to do what the Jewish community did to build the
>Holocaust Museum and other memorials... raise money and awareness.  

No other group besides the Jews have a political/financial/social
interest in constantly harping about the past.  Every group has
suffered persecutation can move on with history -- only Jews
constantly whine about it.  

>The
>Holocaust Museum is not a memorial to remember all the atrocious acts of
>mass genocide in the world... only the one where Jews were targeted for
>destruction and along with them were killed blacks, gypsies, homosexuals,
>the physically and mentally disabled, communists and other Hitler
>"undesireables" just before na dduring WWII, during the reign of the Third
>Reich and Adolf Hitler.  Were it a memorial to all victims of genocide, it
>would have to be an awfully huge museum.

It is bad enough the Jews are constantly harping, but what makes the
Holocaust museum most contemptible is that is a huge temple built to
perpetuate the 20th century's greatest hoax.   

U.S. tax dollars should not be spent by the millions every year for
more propaganda to an event which has not been established, and one
which allegedly happened to people who were not Americans.   We might
as well justify spending millions for 30 - 50 million killed by Mao
Tse Tung, or a monument to the Tsutsis killed by Hutus, or the
Cambodians killed by Pol Pot, or thousands killed centuries ago by
Ghengis Khan.  

It addition to being a huge monument to a lie, it is simply further
propaganda for the Jewish establishment to gain more money for Israel,
despite the atrocities Israel commits continually against Palestinian
civilians.   

Perpetuate the false atrocity and provide cover and money to commit
real atrocities.   Oi vey what a good idea!

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

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jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:

>In article <55u2ku$ggu@is05.micron.net>,
>   sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:
>::amatthews@cybercom.net (Allan Matthews) wrote:
>::
>::>>that a negative White birthrate
>::
>::>Which isn't the case.
>::
>::In many places, such as Finland, the White birthrate 

>Since you have repeatedly failed to give us a biological definition of "white" 
>(which is not surprising, since the so-called races have no biological 
>reality) we are not able to check your "statistics".

Sure Jim.   I'll oblige you just as soon as you give me a "biological
definition" of the spotted owl.  Fair's fair right?

Awaiting your reply.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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ahimoe@net66.com (Albert Himoe) wrote:

>In article <5639gt$aho@is05.micron.net>, Brian Smith 
>(sbrian@micron.net) writes:

>> carl skutsch  wrote:
>> 
>> >Mr. Smith, you are correct.  'Whites' are outnumbered by non-Whites, and
>> >may very well disappear as a seperate racial category.  And I, a white guy,
>> >could care less.  
>> 
>> Carl's statement expresses the peculiar and sad White drive to
>> self-extinction quite well!   

>Ah, "the sad White drive to self-extinction." This brings up something 
>I've been wondering about. Is there some objective measure of this, or 
>at least a measure of something correlated with this which can be 
>determined on individuals? Its seems like there ought to be. [I'm 
>thinking of all those famous Rushton correlations which generally put 
>Whites in the middle between Blacks and Yellows.] 

Good question.  I'll look at it closely.  It seems, however, Whites
before their suicidal descent did not have a media and educational
system which both propagate overt anti-White guilt.   This certainly
has to be a determinative environmental factor.  I would think any
race subjected to such constant self-disparaging conditioning is
eventually going to crumble -- which is why Whites literally will not
survive if the mass media remains in its present hands.  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com





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ahimoe@net66.com (Albert Himoe) wrote:

>In article <5639gt$aho@is05.micron.net>, Brian Smith 
>(sbrian@micron.net) writes:

>> carl skutsch  wrote:
>> 
>> >Mr. Smith, you are correct.  'Whites' are outnumbered by non-Whites, and
>> >may very well disappear as a seperate racial category.  And I, a white guy,
>> >could care less.  
>> 
>> Carl's statement expresses the peculiar and sad White drive to
>> self-extinction quite well!   

>Ah, "the sad White drive to self-extinction." This brings up something 
>I've been wondering about. Is there some objective measure of this, or 
>at least a measure of something correlated with this which can be 
>determined on individuals? Its seems like there ought to be. [I'm 
>thinking of all those famous Rushton correlations which generally put 
>Whites in the middle between Blacks and Yellows.] 

Good question.  I'll look at it closely.  It seems, however, Whites
before their suicidal descent did not have a media and educational
system which both propagate overt anti-White guilt.   This certainly
has to be a determinative environmental factor.  I would think any
race subjected to such constant self-disparaging conditioning is
eventually going to crumble -- which is why Whites literally will not
survive if the mass media remains in its present hands.  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com





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dckom@atlcom.net (dckom) wrote:

>>I'll give it a try.  Our goal is a government dedicated to the racial
>>progress of White people, and must fit the needs of White people in
>>THIS period in history.  The White race is in a different position
>>than in 1933 Germany.  Therefore, our program is not the same as the
>>NSDAP's platform.   What is called for is White unity on a global
>>scale:  not merely in Europe, although a number of National Socialists
>>of that era were Pan-Aryan.   
>>

>Interesting, in other words, you propose ethnic cleansing for the world,
>not just Europe. Not a particularly bright idea.

My, you are quick to jump to the worst conclusion possible!  (I'm used
to this).  No, "White unity" does not mean "global cleansing."   It
means we all sink or swim together.   Those of European descent are a
minority on this planet, vastly outnumbered by a vast, faster-breeding
non-White wave of mud  that is on the brink of washing the White race
into eternal oblivion.  It is vital now that Whites stick together in
this hour of dire peril if we are going to survive as a people.

>>By the way, tell me:   are you part of the organization "Race
>>Traitor"?  You sometimes sign your name with that. If so, tell me what
>>your organization is about and why it believes what it believes.

>Fair's fair. No, I'm not a member of any orgiazation of that name.
>In fact, I don't think such an orginization exists. I've seen a publication
>of that name, but as far as I know, they represent no one except their
>editorial board. I started using the name in alt.politics.white-power,
>after several years of doing volunteer photography at Klan rallies. 
>I kept getting called that, so I adopted it. I also found it was useful for
>annoying the less intellegnt members of your "movement"

I see. 

>	I notice you clipped my sig file. Just couldn't stand sending out
>words from a Jewish libertarian, I assume. Again, though, fair's fair. I
>always edit y'all's sig files, or should I say "sig heil's". :)

Actually I clip all unaddressed follow-up as a matter of course.  But
it's interesting that you pointed that out.  I did notice your sig. at
first and that it was by a libertarian Jew.   

The White problem with the Jews, and why the Jewish presence is
incompatible with White survival, is that the Jews "preach", (through
their profoundly influential media) non-racial and anti-racial
doctrines to Whites, which Whites then buy into.  

The flaw of libertarianism is that it will never succeed because races
as a whole will never subordinate their racial loyalty and group
identities (biological instinct) to a mere intellectual philosophy of
individualism.

Ironic to your quote, Jews are really the ONLY ones in the West who
are striving to make certain thoughts a crime -- and Jews have already
succeeded in criminalizing Holocaust denial in Europe in classic
Orwellian style.  If one expresses "doubt" about the Holocaust, one is
sent to prison for up to five years.   Jews are also in the vanguard
of Orwellian "hate crime" laws -- where if one says something deemed
offensive by a minority (usually Jews report the most "offenses"),
than one will then be prosecuted under criminal law.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Free thought, neccessarily involving freedom of 
>speech and press, I may tersely define thus:no 
>opinion a law-no opinion a crime.
>          Alexander Berkman




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smaceach@polar.bowdoin.edu wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>> Whites had no obligation to permit Blacks' participation in it.

>Hell, no, kill a bunch of people, steal their land, all in a day's work.
>Brian, why do you even bother denying the Holocaust, anyway?

Warring Negro tribes for centuries killed, enslaved, (and often ATE)
other Negro tribes -- and STILL do!   Guess you'll have to find some
other basis for villifying the White man, slippery Scott.  Whites
aren't the only people to kill and seize land -- just the only ones
made to feel guilty about it! 

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>Hitler was a Nordic with blue eyes.  It is YOU who is the brown little
>>troll, "Gandhi."   

>Where did you hear that Hitler had blue eyes, Brian?  Les Griswold,
>former Canadian representative of the NA, used to think (and probably
>still does) that Hitler was blond, too.  Must be an interesting
>propaganda sheet in the NA files.

Hitler had pale blue eyes.  You evidently know as little about
Hitler's appearance as you do about him.  

As far as Les Griswold goes, I'm sure his name's listed in the
phonebook somewhere.  Maybe you could satisfy your obvious obsession
with him through those means.

Brian Smith
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What a disgraceful admission of defeat it is to see the M.A.M. people
resorting to censorship.  They "justify" their censorship on several
specious grounds.  

They say we are here to "disrupt" the newsgroup.  As if White
loyalists can "force" someone else to read a post from them.  As if
White loyalists can prevent others from posting whatever they wish to
post.   As if there isn't enough bandwidth for their own posts.    

Then they claim we are "off topic."  As if the meaning and intent of
the Constitution, as reflected by the racial views of the great
Founding Fathers -- which these Consitutional poseurs and vandals
cravenly disown -- is not relevant.   As if Jewish dominance of U.S.
Finance and International Banking and the New World Order is not
relevant.   As if the Jewish drive to ban guns is not relevant.  

These people can't tolerate a dissenting, minority  viewpoint.  They
have to squelch it because it contradicts -- and embarrassingly shows
up -- their own.   Like an unwashed, ignorant, Dark Age, biggotted
mob, they put their hands to their ears and move to trample the
offending heretic.

And they have the gall to call themselves "enlightened defenders of
freedom."  They are too crass even to realize the wrongness of what
they are doing by banning views from the internet -- a forum which is
intended to be a public arena for enlightenment, and the free and open
discussion and exchange of ideas -- truly one of the last ones in
existence.   

They pontificate daily about the 'evils' of the government
suppression, and how we must fear its tyranny, yet they prove
themselves to be utter tyrants -- small-minded, narrow, bigots of the
first rank.   No different than any of other kind of tyrant.  No less
willing to adopt censorship and suppression in response to opposition,
no less quick to use heavy-handed suppression as a means to silence
unpopular viewpoints.  

Their condemnation of government supression is revealed to be nothing
but hot air, bluster, meaningless sound and fury.   Pure hypocrisy. 

They posture as "warriors" yet cannot even face other viewpoints.
They cravenly flee opposing positions.   The cowards.

They are ignorant, coarse, craven, hypocritical, small-minded and
medieval bigots.   Their banning is their disgrace.

Brian Smith
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smaceach@polar.bowdoin.edu wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>> This fails to show parity of the Negro to the White man.  Almost all
>> of these "battles" are ambushes:  and always of course Whites are
>> vastly outnumbered. 

>Adowa wasn't. Isandhlwana was. But... in an ambush, who's  demonstrating
>the greater degree of intelligence, the people who set the ambush or
>the people who blunder into it? If you want to see a _real_ lack of
>intelligence on the part of Europeans, Adowa and Isandhlwana would be
>great examples. Do you know what happened at those battles, Brian? Read
>up on them.

As stated before, single battles do not support military equality at
the -racial- level -- only the military record of both races compared
as a whole.   As for the "lack of intelligence" of the White man
militarily, let's see one -tank- invented or produced by the
militarily "equal" African Negro!  (snicker)   Alright, to charitably
avoid you further embarrassment how about a cannon?  None?  Alright,
how about just a simple gun?  No?  

Post egalitarian excuse for Negro deficiency HERE -------->_________

>And as for being outnumbered, here we have, guess who, Brian Smith, in
>previous utterances:

>>Had the White man
>>came to Africa simply to defeat any Black army on the African
>>continent, he would have done so -- and with a fraction of the forces
>>of the opposing Black army.

>and

>>Again, White discipline and technological superiority
>>proved more than a match than any far larger Negro force.

>I can give you the DejaNews references if you want.
>So, let's get it straight. Was being outnumbered important in
>African battles, or not? Backpedal, Brian, backpedal...

This is a joke.

That you would even ATTEMPT defending the position that the Negro is
equal to the White man militarily is an effort of such terminal
egali-mania as to evoke almost pathos.   

Unsurprisingly, it approaches if not exceeds in magnitude of
ridiculousness your earlier claims about equality in intelligence
between Negroes and Asians.  Needless to say, you have failed to
establish "Negro equality" to the White man militarily, per the
liberal hoax of Racial Equality.  You had also earlier failed to
produce a single First World Negro nation -- choosing instead to
stammer and bicker over the definition:  liberal obfuscation of PhD
level quality!  

The primitive squalor and proverbial backwardness of Negro lands
which you evidently are -paid- to furnish egalitarian excuses for,
gives the lie to the witch's brew of racial equality.   However, noone
ever said your liberal legerdemain hasn't proven most entertaining!   

But congratulations!  You are well on the tenure track!!  You have
already demonstrated the (only) two necessary qualifications to be a
successful "social scientist" in today's academia:   tenacity to
liberal dogma beyond the bounds of all credulity and integrity, and
the ability to dish out liberal whoppers with a straight face!  

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>Seems like you might suffer that yourself, Mr./Ms. Cutup.  They clearly
>"blame everything on the JOOOOOOOOS".

As much as you categorically deny it, you still have not yet refuted
that Jews wield tremendous control and disproportionate influence over
the media -- an organ that is continually pushing race-mixing
propaganda and "diversity" at every turn.  

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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>Please do be more specific about the physical features that distinguish
>Jews from "Whites", Mr. Smith.  And what exactly do you mean by "background"?
>One Jewish parent?  Will you consider mischlinges of various orders to
>be Jewish, irrespective of their religious beliefs, customs and whatever?
>Even Hitler's regime was a little less strident than that, although the
>Nazis were far from consistent on that count.

There are features stereotypical Whites and Jews possess.   You seem
very hung up on "how" the White man can distinguish who is White and
who is not.  As I said before, those with questionable backgrounds or
features showing obvious non-White blood are not likely to be
attracted to a White state.   

However, as far as detecting Jews, Whites if need be can require blood
tests which will reveal certain genetic marker associated with
Jewishness or Ashkenazi blood.   I talked to a geneticist and he told
me it can be done.  Also, a 1/16th rule can be adopted as well.  A
whole series of safeguards can be implemented which can easily insure
that the amount of Jews and non-Whites entering a White state will be
as minimal as possible.  

Why a Jew would want to have anything to do with a White state is
beyond me, anyways.

>>Obviously, if you have a large hooked nose and a well-known Jewish

>I do know a fair number of Jewish people and you know, not a one of them
>has a large hooked nose!!!  Or even a small hooked nose!

You are STILL arguing it is "too difficult" to sift Whites from Jews
and non-Whites.  However, as I explained before, modern technology and
genetic sampling can greatly minimize the chances of non-Whites
entering.  

>>If a few Whites get excluded that is a small price to pay for
>>separation.

>I doubt that those so excluded would think so. 

Who cares!   Non-white races are not endanger of dying out:  the White
race IS.  The White race is vastly outnumbered on the earth by faster
breeding races.   The White man needs his own space to live in if he
is to survive.  

>>Even if some non-White fake their way through, the goal of separating
>>what is left of the White race from further dissolution will still be
>>achieved.  That is the main goal.  We can handle a few questionables
>>as long as a White gene pool is separated from this multiracial
>>sludge.   Seen in this light, distinguishing between White and
>>non-White is not a problem at all.

>This sounds rather as if you would implement restrictive prohibitions 
>on reproduction, Mr. Smith.  That in order to guard against further
>"contamination" of the "White gene pool", anyone whose "Whiteness"
>was in question would not be allowed to have children.  You NA types
>seem to be heavily into controlled reproduction and eugenics.

>But of course saying that you would separate the "White gene pool"
>from the "multiracial sludge" doesn't tell us anything at all about
>*how* you would determine which individuals fall into each of these
>two charming if ill-defined categories, does it.

Science is a wonderful thing, Mrs. Finsten.   We already have the
means, through genetic analysis, to detect non-White blood.   I think
your argument "it is too difficult to decide who is White" is without
merit.   It won't be a problem.

>>>Of course, I imagine that I wouldn't be "White", anyway, in National
>>>Appliance terms, because my ideology is all wrong.  If The Turner Diaries
>>>is any sort of benchmark, the vast majority of North Americans (exclusive
>>>of Mexico) aren't "White" enough for the National Appliance.  

>>Please be specific in your claims.   Where does it say in the Turner
>>Diaries what you are claiming?

>Well I don't have my downloaded copy at hand.  But as I recall,  actors
>whose performances didn't meet certain "moral standards" were strung up
>from light posts, together with academics whose scholarship was somehow
>unacceptable.  And I think that this included almost all academics.

The "day of the ropes" you are referring makes no mention of that.
_The Turner Diaries_ is a fictional work, a work whose intent is to
bring out ideas and controversies through the vehicle of a fictional
narrative.   As I said before, White nationalist movement doesn't wish
for violence -- it wants peaceful, non-violent separation.  However,
if Whites are not permitted self-determination to escape a multiracial
genocide, then there is simply no other alternative unfortunately.

>Anyone who thought that racial cleansing was not a proper American
>thing to do likewise was written off.  The list is very lengthy and I
>can't remember the details.  I'll get back to you on this if you like
>once I've had a chance to look through it again.  I was truly enthralled 
>by the book.  It presents quite a vision and I think it should be widely 
>read. 

Alright.  However, I notice you don't condemn Israel for ethnically
cleansing the land of Arabs so Jews can occupy more land for
themselves.  You appear predictably selective in your sympathies.  

>>>What I find
>>>really fascinating about National Appliance racial politics is the way
>>>an individual's "race" can change over the course of their lives, and the
>>>way genetically identical people (identical twins) theoretically can belong
>>>to different races.  It truly is amazing!!  

>>How so?

>Well, if a person were to convert to Judaism they couldn't be "White" anymore,
>could they.  Even more bizarre, "White" folks could give birth to a "non-
>White" child, if that child turned out to be bisexual or homosexual.  

Very few Whites convert to Judaism.  You are once again trying to set
up a strawman, a non-issue.   And why would a converted White want to
be a part of a White state?

>>>Yeah, I can see that you're so "empathetic" and "honourable" that you think
>>>you can identify my religion and/or ethnic background based on a couple of
>>>posts.  You actually believe this ethnocentric nonsense, don't you?  

>>Well, are you Jewish or not Mrs. "Finsten"?

>This is a very interesting answer to my question.  But you know what, 
>Brian?  Even though you've blatantly and rather clumsily evaded my question,
>I'm going to answer yours.  

You're question was:  "You really believe this ethnocentric nonsense
do you?"   The question was a leading question, sort of like "You
really are a child molester aren't you?"  Hardly a serious or fair
question.  

>>Jews did not "create" commercialism -- they simply value it higher
>>than Whites as a race do when Whites live in a homogenous White
>>society.  

>Please provide some historical documentation to support this assertion,
>Brian.  I can't accept it as true just because you say so.

The White societies of medieval times were agrarian societies:  yeoman
societies.  These people were not merchantile, not commercialistic,
but tillers of the soil.   Jews have always existed in White societies
as money-changers and commercial business men.   The two peoples have
differing values.  

>>Communism, on the other hand, is based on Marxism.   Marx
>>was a Jew.  Bolshevism was a predominantly Jewish affair.

>You seem to be claiming that communism is a genetic condition, then,
>since Marx was an atheist and had a lot of pretty nasty things to
>say about Judaism particularly, and about religion more generally.

>So if communism is a genetic condition, is it caused by some gene or
>groups of genes that are exclusive to Jews, twentieth century Chinese,
>Sandanistas, Cubans, and people of European descent who join communist
>parties?

You seem to obfuscate very well.   Communism is obviously not genetic.
But communism was a predominantly Jewish movement.  The communist
parties have always been Jewish dominated and disproportionately
Jewish.  The history of this phenomenon has been ad infinitum already.


>>>Uh Mr. Smith, the same stereotype, however, did *not* contradict existing
>>>propaganda in Germany and its occupied territories in the 1930s and 1940s.
>>>So does that then mean that the stereotype couldn't exist then????

>>Note the stereotype of the money-grubbing Jew existed long before Nazi
>>Germany, and in fact has always existed.

>You're repeating yourself, Brian, and not addressing the contradiction
>I pointed out.  Try to focus on the contradiction.  The same stereotype
>was a part of propaganda during the Nazi era.  It did not *contradict*
>existing propaganda but was instead a part of it.  How, then, does
>your statement that stereotypes which contradict propaganda reflect
>general truths support the truthfulness of this stereotype?  Stereotypes
>by definition are not truthful, though, you know, Bri.  

Stereotypes are true:  that is why they persist.  The stereotype of a
criminal usually being Black reflects the inordinate Black crime rate,
which is higher than any other race.  The stereotype about Blacks
being good at basketball reflects another truth as well.  However,
there exists no stereotype about Asians being basketball players.   

There is no contradiction in the above.  A stereotype that existed
before Nazi Germany was merely emphasized and clarified by Nazi
Germany:  whose goal was to free the Germans from the destructive
Jewish influence on their people.  Again, you create the straw man.  


>>>Funny thing that.  Events in Europe in the 1930s and 1940s seem to have made
>>>an impression on them: that they couldn't count on their governments to look
>>>out for their basic rights, and that ignoring strident antisemitic rhetoric
>>>could quite literally be deadly.  

>>Whatever the reason Jews have always been highly cohesive as a people
>>and have always put allegiance to their own above their host country.

>This simply is not true.  The primary reason so few German Jews left
>Germany when the Nazis rose to power, despite the increasingly ominous
>signs, was because they were loyal to Germany (and many had demonstrated
>this in various ways, including distinguished military service during
>World War I) and assumed, wrongly it turns out, that most Germans would
>recognise that.

Jews were cohesive long before Germany and have always put their
interest above their host country.  In WWI Germany, Jews stabbed
Germany and the Kaiser in the back (despite his lavish treatment he
foolishly afforded them) to draw the U.S. into the war, simply to gain
Palestine in return from the British.   Jews also led a revolution in
Germany in 1918 that resulted in Germany being robbed of victory and
laid prostrate at Versailles.  The list goes on and on.

>Gee Brian, you must be Jewish, because you are networking across national
>boundaries.  You oughta get your paranoia checked, Brian.  It is really
>disturbing the way you swallow this antisemitic b.s. hook, line, and sinker.
>Or maybe you haven't learned critical thinking yet?  

See above.

>>The holocaust numbers are grossly exaggerated.  Extermination by
>>gassing is a myth.  The "Holocaust" is a political tool of anti-White
>>propaganda to secure benefits for the Jews and morally bludgeon Whites
>>into compliance with the Jewish agenda.

>Well, this isn't the place to debate the Holocaust numbers.  I will make
>two observations on this though: (1) would you clarify please whether you
>believe not only that the number of dead Jews at the Nazi regime's hands
>is "grossly exaggerated", but also that the number of dead Poles, Gypsies,
>homosexuals, mentally ill, Soviet POWS etc. (the other six million), is 
>also fabricated as a political tool.  (Once you answer this, the next
>question will be why exaggeration of the latter would fulfill this purpose.
>So you can start thinking about that one in advance).  (2)  are you aware
>that the Russians have just in the past week or two released a whole bunch
>of archival material to the USHMM, and that the *Russian* scholars say the
>number of deaths attributable to the Nazis  (11-12 million) may be *too low*?

These documents have not be verified yet.  There has been many
forgeries and mini-hoaxes attached with the Holocaust so far -- I
would not be surprised.   And yes I think the "gentile" numbers were
exaggerated as well.   

>Secure benefits.  The Polish Jews who survived were not even able to get their
>houses and furniture back.  The reparations paid by Germany to Israel were based
>on the *survivorship* figures, NOT the death toll.  So how is this a "benefit"?

The benefits of the Holocaust are political as well as financial.  The
Jews gain a moral weapon to impugn and discredit any effort by Whites
to preserve their race from destruction.  Jews also receive a moral
carte blanche to treat the Palestinians like dogs and continue to
receive billions of dollars every year.  The Holocaust hoax is used as
a political tool to remove the Jews from serious criticism.  

>>Whatever the details are Mrs. Finsten, Jews further their own
>>interests as a people.  It is a very basic fact, one that follows, is
>>logical, and has repeated itself time and time again.  

>>The agenda of the Jewish establishment, which favors multiracialism,

>This is the most bizarre interpretation I have ever come across.  Most
>Jewish organisations favour *equal rights*, yes.  Hardly surprising,
>too, since it isn't that long ago that Jews were also the object of
>clearly discriminatory laws, if not in your country, certainly in mine.

Jews typically favor egalitarianism:  the equality of all races.
This leads per se to destructive multiracialism.  

>If you want to pretend that your country wasn't "multiracial" until
>the Civil Rights Amendment, I'll leave you to your fantasy.  

America began as a nation for White people -- in which non-Whites were
marginalized and slaves only.  Then gradually it was subverted to
integrative multiracialism.   

Brian Smith
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smaceach@polar.bowdoin.edu wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>> I know the extermination by gassing myth pretty well, and that is the
>> heart of the Holocaust.   However, if what you're referring to is so
>> "famous" surely you can produce at least one credible quote somewhere,
>> can't you?

>The references to Battalion 101 are in Christopher Browning's _Ordinary Men_
>(which is a study of that specific unit, IIRC) and Daniel Goldhagen's
>_Hitler's Willing Executioners_.

>Now go read them.

You can be sure I'll get back to you on it.  I'm not at all worried.
Virtually every Holocaust claim reveals fraud upon close inspection. 

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Azrael  wrote:

>Are you all crazy? Has anyone of you been to Israel as of late? 
>When did the "Jews" as a race, and what color of Jews, I might add, stand 
>up and say Guns are "bad" and you can't defend yourself?  It would seem 
>to me YOU have never sat next to a man on a bus in Israel  with a M16 
>with fully automatic selection switches on it, or seen this Jews gun 
>Safe, NRA membership, or DD2-14s You Know Army discharge Papers?
>	When did "JEWs" or Israelis Since Jews are a religion not a race, 
>become guests in this country? my grandfather was ww2 vetran, and my 
>father vetnam mia, pow and Died in the line of duty, myself a gulf vetran 
>, what makes me a guest and You not! since this land was inhabited before 
>any whites ever lived here?  The fun thing is my back ground i am Welsh 
>and israeli  and am white in coloration ? and have been aproched by the 
>brotherhood to join, see You all asume You know what a jew is But there 
>isnt one among you who knows what the jewish race even looks like! the 
>funny thing is i do hold some of your ideolioges myself, the differnce is 
>that i do somthing positive about my beliefs I VOTE PRO GUN and i sponser 
>Pro Gun Orginiations ex. NRA.
>GET a LIFE,
>Azrael

How amusing it is when they claim Jews are a religion and not a
people, when over 95% of Jews are either athiest or do not attend
religious services.   

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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The M.A.M. crew can't refute the posts of White patriots which is why
they are now resorting to banning us.  

After we have been censored, then M.A.M. dupes Arlin and the Wizard of
Communism can go back to promoting their ADL-safe brand of militia in
peace:  while the militia is portrayed by the media as evil just as
always, just as before  -- despite their craven groveling.

The Arlin wanna-be's never could refute White patriots on: 

1)  the original intent of the now-subverted Constitution (it was NOT
egalitarian) 
2)  the Jewish drive to ban guns
3)  the Jewish control of the media, or 
4)  the Jewish creation and pioneering of communism.   
5)  the decay of America under the multiracial diversity they continue
to promote.

They can't refute these truths.   And since truth of this kind is
"embarrassing" to them, they therefore must -purge- it by censorship.

	
However, their brand of pseudo-Constitutional multiracialism is
against the interests and wishes of all races, and is being
increasingly recognized as such.   These people are laugably stuck on
the same war world II propaganda cliches, the same "We Shall Ovecome!"
1960's civil rights communist bilge.  

A lot of M.A.M. dupes are from that despircable generation:  while WE
had to grow up dealing with the chaotic and degenerative result of
their pinko "diversity" ideology.   Their "multiracial utopia" palaver
is long part of the past, as now racial separatist movements of Black
(Nation of Islam) , Mestizo ("The Raza"), and White nationalism are
well on their way, and growing!   

Your views are part of the past.   And good riddance to you
irresponsible, cowardly, impotent old farts.  

Your wimpy censorship allows you to "purge" the forum of
"inconvenient truth" so you can go back to whining and groveling for
media acceptance, and macawing back and forth to each other about
Black helicopters, UFO's, and the "eeeeevils" of the Founding Fathers'
"racism and homophobia."  (snarf).   

However, we're going to continue building a new society on the ruins
of your incompetence, weakness, and liberal sentimentality.    We are
a new generation.   We want nothing more to do with your nostalgic
"multiracial utopia" crap ever again.   It never worked and it never
will.  

I can understand why you militia cowards need censorship -- your views
can't stand on their own feeble legs.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com




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smaceach@polar.bowdoin.edu wrote:


>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>> The Orange Free state was settled by Boers moving northward from Cape
>> Hope after British domination, and they found the land relatively
>> clear except for bushmen.  

>Read what I just posted to McKinney on this thread. I may have to educate
>all of you Nazis about Africa, but I'll be damned if I'm going to repeat myself.

The point is moot regardless.  The nation the Boers built had nothing
to do with Negroes and the Boers had no obligation to permit Negroes
participation in their economy.  

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>I'm rather interested in why *your* view of the Holocaust is so skewed.  
>There is a mountain a *physical evidence* 

The mountain is an fact a molehill in the eyes of a mole.  

>in addition to the eye-witness testimony not only of Jewish and other survivors, but of
>many Germans who were involved in the operations of the extermination
>camps.  

And more than enough of such "testimony" has been exposed here as
reporting the impossible, not describing the currently claimed places
and events and shown to be mutually contradictory.  So why would you
bring them up?  They are truly ridiculous.  

>If you really want to go through this evidence piece by piece,
>I'll do what I can, 

You will be the first.  

>although I don't know nearly as much about the
>subject as some of the folks on alt.revisionism, like Mike Stein and
>Mark Van Alstine.  

Your problem is that you are not as good at lying as they are, that
is all.  If they are such experts, where are their publications?  They
repeat only what they read from others.  They are not experts on the
subject.   Rather they are "expert" upon what others have said about
the subject.  

They are not original.  They are not expert.  They are no more than
regurgitators.  

It is not clear why you would aspire to being a regurgitator of the
publications of others.  

>Maybe they'll come over and talk to you about the
>architectural blueprints from Auschwitz-Birkenau, discovered by
>Pressac, 

Bingo!  They discuss Pressac, the work of others, rather than the
blueprints themselves.  And all the while pretending they have
firsthand knowledge.  

>that show that there was never any plumbing planned for the
>gas chambers, even though there were showerheads ordered and installed.
>Just as one teensy example of physical evidence.

That is not physical evidence.  What would be physical evidence
would be actually finding the building that satisfies that
description.  But after over 50 years of searching, no one has found
that building.  It is safe to say that it does not exist.  

>Where are you getting your history lessons from?  

If you are getting your history lessons third hand as you are
indicating then you have gotten no history lesson at all.  It is
incumbent upon you to get as close to first hand information as
possible and then to critically review it in comparison with
everything else you know.  

It is intellectual honesty to avoid committing yourself to any
position that you can not personally support.  It is intellectual
honesty to state in public "'he' said it is" rather than "it is."  Try
intellectual honesty for a change.

>"If I can't dance.....I don't want to be part of your revolution."
>          Emma Goldman

You were never invited to dance.  

Brian Smith
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Bigfoot  wrote:


>Brian Smith wrote:
>> 
>> a0003517@airmail.net ("Homesteadr" James Vallaster) wrote:
>> 
>> >These piss jar, cum bag, bus station toilet boys have the
>> >nerve to call for 'White Unity'. This is a completely obvious
>> >ploy to divide and conquer. These Neo-Nazis have only
>> >one object - to destroy the  good things we would fight
>> >for, in favor of the ignorance and bestiality that they
>> >worship. If they have a hand out to you, it means they
>> >have a gun in the other behind their back.
>> 
>> >Stay away from the National Allliance / Neo-Nazi
>> >trash, even if they are white-trash. They are not
>> >very smart, they don't bathe very often, and
>> >they have nasty little habits. But far worse than
>> >that, take any given Neo-Nazi and you find
>> >a federal agent
>> 
>> This guy's unsubstantiated, filthy, and bigotted gibberish makes those
>> toothless fellows in the movie "Deliverance" appear rarified in
>> comparison.
>> 
>> Brian Smith
>> www.natall.com


>TRANSLATION:

>  He hit the F*ckin' nail on the head and it left a sore spot, eh?

He obviously fulfilled YOUR appetite for bird-brained sewage!

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"Bigfoot:   hmm, hmm, GOOD!"



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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>Laura Finsten  wrote:

>Hey, Bri, how come you didn't answer my question about whether or not you
>believe in coincidence?  You know, the example was you and Kurt Stele
>switching from the same ISP to the same new ISP on the same day.

That's interesting.  Kurt and I post use micron.net as do several
racialists (micron a common provider in the Northwest). Actually,  I
was on primenet for months and had nothing to do with micron, while
Kurt Stele was with another provider entirely.   

>And you haven't told me whether you're Anglican and/or German, Brian.
>I've told you lots about me.  Come on.

Sure.   Anglican.   

>>There are features stereotypical Whites and Jews possess.   

>I'm beginning to see why Scott is complaining that you don't seem to pay
>attention.  Uh, Brian, how many individuals actually fit the stereotypes?
>Do you have any idea?  Did you know that Gunther and Lenz, the Nazi 
>"racial hygienists", figured that during the Nazi era only *6-8 percent*
>of Germans were "pure Nordics"?  Stereotypes are (positively or negatively)
>idealised models, Brian, not descriptions of any reality.

Nordics are only one type of Whites.  The goal of White nationalism is
preserving all White subgroups still in existence.  "White" includes
all of them and can be distinguished by a criteria of appearance and
genetics with a low margin of error.   Distinguishing Whiteness is no
more of a problem than the NA has in keeping non-Whites out its
organization -- non-existent of course.  Gosh, I bet that burns you up
doesn't it, the idea of Whites distinguishing who is White and who is
not?   I bet that just send shivers down your liberal spine!  

Your same broken record that Whites can't decide who is White and
non-White is stuck on the same groove I see. 

>>You seem
>>very hung up on "how" the White man can distinguish who is White and
>>who is not.  As I said before, those with questionable backgrounds or
>>features showing obvious non-White blood are not likely to be
>>attracted to a White state.

>So they'll just accept being booted out, Brian, because you and Papa
>Pierce don't think they're "White enough"?  I mean get serious, you're
>gonna have to throw people out.  Do you think folks are just gonna pack 
>up and go because you tell them to?  You are a dreamer.

The Jews are evidently quite adept at getting Arabs to pack and go
>from  Arab land -- why not?  However, the goal of White nationalists is
to negotiate a mutually beneficial "land agreement" with other
separatist races if possibly, forgoing the need to resort to force.  
   
>>However, as far as detecting Jews, Whites if need be can require blood
>>tests which will reveal certain genetic marker associated with
>>Jewishness or Ashkenazi blood.   I talked to a geneticist and he told
>>me it can be done.  

>Tell me how it can be done, Brian. What is the genetic marker?  What
>gene are you talking about that only Jews have?  And what do you mean
>by "Jewish or Ashkenazi" blood?  Do you mean Ashkenazi Jews, or do you
>also mean Sephardic Jews?

There exists genetic markers for Ashkenazi Jews, as was released by
the press about 2 months ago.  My geneticist friend told such a test
is already in existence and the capability is there.   I imagine it
won't be difficult, and won't be necessary because sight can identify
race in most cases.  

Mrs. Finsten's broken record plays on.  
  
>>Also, a 1/16th rule can be adopted as well.  

>And how are you going to verify this, Brian?  Are you going to require
>that everyone show up with their family records and blood samples going
>back 5 generations to search out the mysterious tell-all gene?

Appearance criteria, plus genetic blood-analysis if necessary, plus
the disincentive to non-Whites of applying to a White state.
Relatively low margin of error.  

The broken record plays on!

>>Why a Jew would want to have anything to do with a White state is
>>beyond me, anyways.

>Brian, I think you're kidding yourself if you think that people are
>going to willingly give up their homes and their country because you
>and a couple of other fascists don't like their genes (or think you
>don't).  I can assure you that it isn't going to be that simple.

Noone ever said it was going to be easy.

>No you haven't explained this at all.  You have claimed that there is
>a "test" that can pinpoint people of Jewish or Ashkenazi ancestry.  You
>don't seem to even understand that these two terms are not coterminous.
>What test?  I want to know what gene you are talking about because,
>frankly, I think you're making this up.  

They identified a genetic marker in Ashkenazi Jews linked to breast
cancer.  Surely they can identify and isolate certain markers
associated with different races.  That would be not difficult at all.
And my geneticist friend told me that have it in existence anyways.

The band played on..

>>>I doubt that those so excluded would think so. 

>>Who cares!   

>Uh, Brian, all the people, White or any other flavour, who are going to
>lose their homes and country.  Don't you get it?

Like I said:  who cares!  The White race's existence is at stake.
Jews obviously don't care if thousands of Arabs are forced from their
homes or killed, including children -- for the needless expansion of
their land.

Howeve, the White race needs an exclusive place to live or it will
die.  Other races can go back to their own continents and homes, and
be cared for by their own people.  Whites need a land.  Too bad.  

>Now, to get back to your great scientific solution to the "problem", what
>was that gene you claimed your geneticist friend said can be identified
>in blood and distinguishes people of Jewish and Ashkenazi ancestry from
>Whites?  What trait does it regulate?  What is its locus?  What are the
>exact gene frequencies in Ashkenazi/Jewish (you're gonna have to clarify
>your categories here, Bri, this doesn't make sense) and "White" populations?
>And what exactly are those "White" populations?

I don't know the exact details, but news of the genetic marker was
reported in national news.  Even if there exist no genetic marker for
races (not the case), a simple appearance test can be adopted if no
other alternative exists.  

Mrs. Finsten's broken record continues...

>>The "day of the ropes" you are referring makes no mention of that.

>That's right. The "day of the ropes".  Well who were all those people whose
>corpses adorned lightposts all over LA, or wherever that particularly
>gruesome scenario was set?

Those were race-traitors, Mrs. Finsten.  

>>_The Turner Diaries_ is a fictional work, a work whose intent is to
>>bring out ideas and controversies through the vehicle of a fictional
>>narrative.   

>Isn't that nice.  What are the ideas?  Controversies?  You mean about
>whether an 80 percent loss of the US population is acceptable "collateral
>damage" in the establishment of a "White" nation?  And nuking Toronto,
>China and I can't remember where else would be OK?  I hope y'all give
>some more thought to the problem of nuclear fallout.

As I said before, you are taking the events of a fictional narrative
and imputing them as the goals of the NA.   The leap is pure
speculation on your part.  

>>As I said before, White nationalist movement doesn't wish
>>for violence -- it wants peaceful, non-violent separation.  However,
>>if Whites are not permitted self-determination to escape a multiracial
>>genocide, then there is simply no other alternative unfortunately.

>Brian, go to a dictionary and look up the word "genocide".  I'm getting
>really tired of people using this word inappropriately.

Evidently Whites being destroyed by a inter-racial dissolution -isn't-
genocide to you.   Again, your selective sympathies shine through with
unerring predictability.

>So you demand "self-determination" at the expense of the "self-determination"
>of all the folks you will disenfranchise.  And you don't think you sound
>a lot like Nazis? 

For the third time:  Ends, means, (see above).

>>Alright.  However, I notice you don't condemn Israel for ethnically
>>cleansing the land of Arabs so Jews can occupy more land for
>>themselves.  You appear predictably selective in your sympathies.

>Whose talking about Israel?  Geesh, Brian, you don't have a clue what
>my views are on the mess in the Middle East.  And this sure as hell isn't
>the place to talk about that.  If you want to talk about Israel and 
>the Middle East, there are newsgroups for that, you know.

It is highly relevant.  Jews are permitted to maintain a nation to
preserve their peoplehood and to use force to do so, yet Whites are
not.  Quite a double standard -- one that is hardly coincidental.  

>Clumsy red herring, Brian.  Try to stick to the subject at hand.  The
>issue was what happened to opponents of the "revolutionary" regime in
>The Turner Diaries, remember?  Are you a guardian of free speech, Brian?
>You seem to have been rumbling a lot about free speech as the m.a.m.
>regulars get ready to boot you out.  Do you think that political opposition
>has its place or, like your bossman, would you just string 'em up?  

I obviously favor free speech.  However, the genocide of the White
race supercedes all concerns, and I believe violence if necessary is
justified to secure the White race's existence.

>>The White societies of medieval times were agrarian societies:  yeoman
>>societies.  These people were not merchantile, not commercialistic,
>>but tillers of the soil.   Jews have always existed in White societies
>>as money-changers and commercial business men.   The two peoples have
>>differing values.

>Umm, Brian, where do you think mercantile capitalism came from?  And why
>do you think that Jews ended up being the moneylenders?  We've talked
>about this before.  

The Jews have a different organic culture, differing values and
differing genetic than the White race -- and other races as well.  I
see the difference as plain as night and day, as do several people do,
who are of many races.  You evidently see no appreciable difference
between Jews and Whites.   What is that to me.  

>>You seem to obfuscate very well.   

>Well thank you.

You're welcome.

>>Communism is obviously not genetic.
>>But communism was a predominantly Jewish movement.  The communist
>>parties have always been Jewish dominated and disproportionately
>>Jewish.  The history of this phenomenon has been ad infinitum already.

>It has also been dissected and blown apart "ad infinitum" already.
>How many Jews in Poland's communist party before its collapse a few
>years ago?  How many Jews in the Soviet Union's government during and
>after Stalin's regime?

This is the old Jewish apologia tactic of examining communism
post-Stalin which carefully sidesteps the fact that Jews pioneered
communism and dominated it from its inception.   This has all been
discussed here.  You have shown up too late.  Look on Deja News:
"Communism is Jewish:   irrefutable evidence."   The articles also
contain many quotes from Jewish journals, publications, and prominent
Jews lauding the fact of communism's Jewishness.  

>What exactly was the proportion of Jews in the communist party during
>the Bolshevik revolution?

Again, the Jewish party was dominantly and disproportionately Jewish.
Old stuff.  Been there, done that.  

>I do wish you'd explain Maoist communism to me, though, Brian.  I've
>been having real trouble figuring out how the Jooos could be responsible
>for that, and I guess you folks have too, since no one has even tried to
>answer it.

Maoist communism is a brand of communism derived from Marxism.  Take
it from there.

>>There is no contradiction in the above.  A stereotype that existed
>>before Nazi Germany was merely emphasized and clarified by Nazi
>>Germany:  whose goal was to free the Germans from the destructive
>>Jewish influence on their people.  Again, you create the straw man.  

>Again you demonstrate that you don't know what a stereotype is.  Or
>the relationship between stereotypes and prejudice.  What exactly was
>the "destructive Jewish influence" on the non-Jewish German population
>that the Nazis sought to eliminate, Brian?

Jews have a nation within a nation, are traditionally exploitative of
their host peoples, and invariably inflict a corrupting and debasing
effect on the host populations.

>>These documents have not be verified yet.  There has been many
>>forgeries and mini-hoaxes attached with the Holocaust so far -- I
>>would not be surprised.   And yes I think the "gentile" numbers were
>>exaggerated as well.   

>No, they have not been "verified" yet, I agree.  What would you accept as
>"verification", Brian?  And would you like to detail the forgeries and hoaxes
>you allege are attached to the Holocaust?

I have posted the URL's for the revisionist sites.  Suffice it to say
for the purposes of this discussion, that discrepancies exist for
virtually every pillar of Holocaust theory:   number of deaths, gas
chamber function, construction, existence, crematory use
impossibilities, the torture of German "witnesses," missing ashes from
all those people that were supposedly cremated, contradictory and
absurd eyewitness testimony, and lack of physical evidence for the
event.  All of these controversies are explained in full on
alt.revisionism and 

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
http://www.codoh.com/
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
http://www.air-photo.com/
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html

>What is the purpose of inflating the numbers of non-Jews murdered by the
>Nazi regime, Brian?  Who gains by that?

Guess.  Who do you think gains by that?

>>America began as a nation for White people -- in which non-Whites were
>>marginalized and slaves only.  Then gradually it was subverted to
>>integrative multiracialism.   

>Was granting women the status of humans and the vote equally subversive,
>Brian?

Women, no.   Egalitarianism yes.

Brian Smith
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druidhere@aol.com wrote:

>We have been betrayed.  We have been rendered ineffective.  There is no
>one group holding this nation.  It is a handful of groups fighting for
>power.  There is no NWO.  There is no One World.  There is no Jewish
>Conspiracy.  There is no one corporate world take over.  We have been fed
>misinformation as a nation.

>Nor is there a way one can say, "Behold you groups fighting for power...."
> So say nothing.

>Follow the example of groups like the Reform Party, who repeat like a
>broken record, "The issue at hand is...."

>I, like you, am the last to know this.

Well, there IS a movement to destroy nationalism and "racial
boundaries" while policing the countries of the world in line with
these goals.   The "New World Order" actually began as a movement away
>from  the divine right of Kings (which was imposed after the fall of
the Roman Empire in the 6th century).   That movement had both good
elements and bad.  The American Revolution, was actually a more benign
manifestation away from the old monarchical system.  For example,
among the "good" traits of this movement was the recognition of merit,
rather than class structure, as the means of advancing.  

However, this "New World Order" was sabotaged by an elite consisting
of Jews and their lackeys who saw in it these mass movements the
opportunity to manipulate the masses through egaliarian dogma.  The
result were the the nihilistic bloodbaths of the French and Communist
revolutions -- both of which were guided and led overwhelmingly by
Jews.  

The New World Order is not "in the making."  It is already here.  It
ALREADY rules today.  

American Dissident Voices, the National Alliance internet and radio
show, is currently examining the New World Order in great detail right
now.  This week we are on Part 3 (half-hour .wav files).   It is an
excellent, excellent series.   It presents the facts of the New World
Order -- what it is, what it isn't, how it began, what its goals are.


Visit our site and download these files or tune in via shortwave
radio.  Don't miss these programs.

Brian Smith
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Flaming@The.Door (The Burning Man) wrote:

>These National Alliance will never recruit more than the tiniest 
>fraction of the American people, or even of the Militia. Those
>that go over to that movement are like drifters, arsonists,
>child molesters, that is, those on the very sick fringe of our
>society.

>Those people in the National Alliance know this very well,
>and probably enjoy the loser image due to some flaw in
>their character or very low self esteem.

>They can be seen as a joke, or as an object of pity. 
>By no means can they really be taken seriously. So
>consider them the joke that they are, and go on.

Considering that the views of the National Alliance are perfectly in
line with the normal, commonplace views of Whites that have always
predominated throughout  the history of the West, it is only the
recent communist-liberal "civil rights" ideology of today's era  --
which you perversely defend -- that is the exception.  

The more its failures are exposed, the more people are returning to
the everlasting truth about race.   The crumbling of America is as
inevitable as any corrupt society of the past.  The National Alliance
stands as the beacon for Whites who are spiritually disowning the
System in ever-increasing droves and looking for WHO defends their
true interests as a people.  

Our recruitment under Clinton has soared, and since Clinton is in for
four more years, it will only continue!  

However, as multiracialism breeds more crime, filth, division, chaos,
and taxes, "diversity" will increasingly become a bitter word to more
and more Americans.  Sorry, "Burning Man, but it is YOUR
multiracialism that is being increasingly recognized as a "joke" --
one that is too sad to laugh at.

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>Laura Finsten  wrote:

>>>A couple of problems here.  Nobody can be prosecuted for what they
>>>"think", only for what they do with what they think.  Unless you
>>>actually believe that it is possible to read minds, quite literally.

>>Sure.  As long as you keep your mouth shut, and don't dare 'express'
>>an opinion, things will go just fine for you!   Some freedom indeed!

>That does sound rather draconian, doesn't it.  Sort of like the kind of
>"freedom" espoused in The Turner Diaries.

>This is a real muddy area of law and ethics, and I'm fairly certain
>that you aren't interested in really engaging in a discussion of it,
>but I'll pretend you might be.

>I'm sure that you'll agree that "freedom of speech" does not mean 
>that there are *no* limits whatsoever on what is acceptable speech.
>Or do you think that it should be OK to stand up in the middle of
>a crowded movie theatre and yell "Fire!" when there isn't one, to
>incite people to riot, and to verbally threaten peoples' lives?
>I guess we need to clear that up before there is much point in 
>proceeding with this discussion.

Well, it seems the only people enforcing thought-crimes are Jews.  As
far the the _Turner Diaries_ go, that novel represents the last resort
the White man will be forced to if the genocide of the White race
continues and he is repressed to the point that there is no other
alternative for his survival.  I do not want that to happen.  I would
like the White man's right to self-determination to be permitted and
the races go their separate ways.  Those who want diversity can have
their diversity.  

>>>Germany does indeed have laws against Holocaust denial, and I note
>>>that many people, including Jews, have spoken out against those laws.
>>>But how many other European countries have such laws, Brian?  The
>>>Labour Party in the UK has said that it would pass such a law if it
>>>wins the next election, but there is no law against Holocaust denial
>>>at present.  What about Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, France?
>>>Faurisson hasn't been charged or imprisoned, to my knowledge.

>>France just prosecuted someone for carrying a revisionist book.

>Can you give me the details of the case? Seriously, I'm genuinely
>interested.  Faurisson has been denying the Holocaust for decades
>and never been prosecuted for it (or is the one who has?).

It is on www.codoh.com under the "Thoughtcrimes" link (I think).  It
discusses the case in full.

>>England is next and already has "hate crime laws" which have sent
>>several to jail for "saying the wrong thing"!  

>So you are predicting that Labour will win the next election?

Regardless of the party game, that is the way the wind is blowing.
Germany has criminalized "revisionism" as thought-crime, now France.
And England already has Orwellian laws criminalizing "offensive"
speech.  John Tyndall spent several months in English prison for
merely "saying the wrong thing."   For England to criminalize
revisionism will not be difficult at all.

>>Revisionism is also suppressed by Jewish intimidation and boycott.

>Boycott?  Intimidation?  "Revisionism" is "suppressed" by its fallacy,
>Brian.  Holocaust denial hasn't got a leg to stand on, and is clearly
>part of an ultra-right wing agenda to cleanse fascism.

How wrong you are.  There are huge evidentiary problems with the
Holocaust theory, as anyone reading the revisionist positions can
clearly see.   Actually, the Holocaust theory, along with its
Orwellian suppression of dissent, clearly furthers the Jewish agenda.
But that's OK with you, right?

And what "truth" needs to be protected by criminal laws?  What
"historical event" is not permitted to be questioned?  Something
indeed is fishy with the Tale.  

>What I find interesting is that organisations like CODOH which *claim*
>to want "open debate" on whether there was a Holocaust refuse to
>link to the one web-site that actually engages in *debate* - Nizkor.
>While Nizkor does in fact link to all the denial sites, in multiple
>places.  And the IHR similarly avoids the "opposing position" like
>the plague, although dearest Ernst "UFOS R US" Zundel has grudgingly
>including one link to Nizkor.  If there is a sincere wish for *debate*,
>why do these websites appear to try to hide the "opposition's" 
>debunking of their arguments?

Every revisionist site either links or mentions the Nizkor site
several times, including CODOH.  The revisionists want to openly
discuss the Holocaust, but they are prevented from doing so publicly:
it is an obvious act of cowardice on the part of the Holocausters.
The public is thus prevented from being told about the huge holes in
the Holocaust.  It is shameful, a deliberate cover-up.  Revisionism is
growing that much more underground as a direct result.  
 
>>The knee-jerk reaction is always "so what:  that's legal!"  The point
>>is Jews use there power to ban and suppress the truth about the
>>Holocaust Hoax in demonstrations of open bigotry.  Jews are also in
>>the fore of passing Orwellian "hate crime" laws.

>I don't get your comment about the knee-jerk reaction.  You don't seem
>to recognise that Jews are not the only people repelled by the tactics
>of organisations like Zundel's, Raven's, and Bradley Smith's, Brian.

Zundel gives a link to Nizkor.  But not linking Nizkor is hardly
evidence of  "unwillingness to debate" Holocausters.  All the
revisionists sites consist of presenting the other side's claims
directly, and in the other side's own words, and then debunking these
claims.  

The revisionists would leap at ANY chance to debate Holocausters in
public -- but the Holocauster cowards will have none of it.  The
latter are actually smart for doing so.  If they permitted the public
to hear revisionism the Holocaust would likely crumble much faster
than it is today.   

>Jews have not "foisted" anything on a naive and gullible public.  The
>vast weight of historical evidence - physical evidence, eye-witness
>testimony both - argue against you, quite clearly.  You want to talk
>in detail about the evidence, Bri?  You still reading up about the
>"Order Police"?  Want to talk gas chambers?  I might be able to persuade
>Mike Stein to share his detailed knowledge on this subject with you.   

It seems you cannot do so yourself even though you evidently are so
certain the extermination by gassing occurred.   I don't blame you not
knowing the theory:  the issues are vast and they do get complex.
However, I do blame for slavishly accepting as truth a theory you have
not investigated for yourself.  

Yes, still reading up on the "Order Police."  Police Battalion 101 I
believe it is.  I have little fear of the claims.   The claims of the
Holocaust are invariably grandiose and exaggerative.   It seems to be
the nature of the animal!  

>>>How many countries actually *have* these "hate laws", Brian?  Canada
>>>does, I know, but they have rarely been used, and there has only been
>>>one conviction under them that I am aware of.  School teacher lying
>>>to his history students, and he certainly was not sent to prison.

>>The fact that the Jews have succeeded in pushing through thoughtcrime
>>laws at all in itself speaks volumes.

>Well to the extent that this is true, the volumes it speaks to me sound
>kinda like this:  the majority of people in the countries in which such
>laws exist are repelled and revolted by increasingly blatant racism.

The people have nothing to do with it.  The current German regime is
simply the same puppet regime installed by the Allies after WWII.  The
people never "voted" on these Orwellian laws.  

I personally favor them because they are only drawing attention to the
patent desperation of the Holocausters.  It is a sad bet indeed.

>But you didn't answer my question, Bri.  How many countries actually
>*have* these "hate laws"?  If it were up to me, I'd just charge the
>twinkies distributing their racist tracts to school kiddies with 
>trespass and littering.    

Well, I know that Canada, Australia, and England, France, and Germany
have "hate crime" laws which punish "incorrect speech."  Germany and
France specifically criminalize revisionism.  The ADL is pushing hard,
as always, for the same sorts of Orwellian laws here.

>>>It strikes me that you are exaggerating the extent of laws against
>>>Holocaust denial and of hatred in speech.  And it also occurs to me
>>>that you are overplaying the role of Jewish organisations in these
>>>areas.  And ignoring the fact that many Jews and other *non-racists* 
>>>and people who do not deny the historicity of the Holocaust have 
>>>spoken out against such laws, and in many cases taken quite vocal
>>>stances against them. 

>>Oh crap.  Jewish are the guiding force behind these Orwellian laws.
>>And the Jewish ADL has been pushing "hate crime" laws for years.

>Yeah, and lots of individuals have been adamantly opposed to such
>laws and limitations on freedom of speech.  You keep carping about
>how Nizkor is a "Jewish organisation", yet conveniently ignore its
>pro-freedom of speech stance, don't you.  

Jews have had no appreciable impact on the ongoing trend by other Jews
to successfully criminalize speech with Orwellian laws.  Jews
certainly haven't applied Jewish power half as much against these
measures, and they have in FAVOR of these measures.  The Jewish
opposition to other Jewish supression has been lukewarm at best.  

>>I don't see the Jews organizing to oppose them.  Jews get organized
>>quite often whenever they want to oppose something.  Jews organized a
>>long list of Jewish organizations to protest for the release of
>>Jonathon Pollard -- a Jewish spy for Israel.  Yet Jews don't protest
>>to oppose these thoughtcrime laws.  There is no serious Jewish
>>opposition to them.

>Are you Star Trek fan, Brian?  It sounds like you think that everybody
>has to voice their opinions through a religious and/or ethnic group.
>You have a very borg-like view of the world.  That might work for you,
>since it lets you "function" without actually having to have more than
>two neurons yourself, but the rest of the world doesn't work that way.

I view political events in terms of how they affects my race.  So do
many Jews.  If you condemn you condemn them as well.  However, a race
which does not look out for its own interests will be trampled on and
ultimately destroyed.  

That is what I am doing:  looking out for the White interest.   At the
same time, I am aware of the occurrence of the individual differences,
and deal with people on an individual level, while being aware of
general racial truths as well.

>Does every Jew who speaks out against undue limitations to freedom
>of speech have to make sure that everyone knows they're Jewish?  Is
>no one allowed to voice their opinions as an individual, or do you
>apply this need for "group" voice and opinion to Jews only?  I
>guess you'd only be satisfied if there were something like "Jews
>for hate speech" as a formal organisation lobbying the government.

A large host of Jewish groups all unitedly backing the Jewish spy
Jonathan Pollard is a hardly speaking "as a individual."   But despite
the Jews in favor of free speech, the Jews in favor of banning and
suppressing free speech are the ones gaining ground.  If Jews are in
favor of free speech it is up to take effective action to halt their
fellow Jews.   So far they have not.  

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>So let's get back to anthropometry then.  I'd really like to hear the details
>of your "simple appearance test", Bri.  Speaking of stereotypes, did you 
>know that in Latin America, people with dark brown hair and blue eyes are
>thought to be Jewish because this is such a bizarre hair colour/eye colour
>combo to them.  They woulda thought Hitler was a Jew.  Isn't that funny!!

Mrs. Finsten's main argument is that Whites can't identify a White
person.   Mrs Finsten doesn't believe that we can see a man with Black
skin and an Afro and conclude which race he is.   Or a mulatto.  Or an
Indian.  Or an Asian.
 
Appearance ALONE automatically excludes the overwhelming percentage of
non-Whites (hardly any of which would even bother to apply for
membership in a White state), leaving only a fraction of
"questionables" most of which again would be discouraged from applying
to a White state -- and ALL of whom could be denied entrance if so
desired.  Those appointed for the job of evaluating a person for
entrance will always err on the side of exclusion, of course, for the
interest of preserving White genes. 

Even if some questionables could somehow manage to "sneak" by these
standards into a White racial state (highly unlikely), they would
still be likely shunned by the population generally.  The goal of
preserving White existence would still be achieved.  

Thus the goal of Whites in their own racial state is quite feasible,
despite Mrs. Finsten's broken record "it's too difficult to identify a
White!" 

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>And more than enough of such "testimony" has been exposed here as
>>reporting the impossible, not describing the currently claimed places
>>and events and shown to be mutually contradictory.  So why would you
>>bring them up?  They are truly ridiculous.

>You're going to have to be more specific about which testimonies you
>find problematic and why, Brian.  Moreover, you are going to have to
>be very specific about why you reject *all* eyewitness testimony,
>despite the overall convergence, because of some inconsistencies.  
>Otherwise people might think you're just reciting some generic
>Holocaust denial mantra you read somewhere.

What about the accounts of electrocution and steaming?  They have long
been proven false.  Why do aerial photos demonstrate there are were no
vents over the gas chambers?   Why was Anne Frank shipped all Europe
if she was sickly and we are told they automatically exterminated the
young and the old?  Why was Anne Frank's father found recuperating in
a German hospital at the end of the war if the intent was
extermination?  Why do the documents show that thousands of old and
sick were not "exterminated"?  Why do the samples of HCN from the
so-called "gas chambers" only support the thesis the gas chambers were
used as to delouse?  Why was there a new gas chamber built underground
at great expense and for no apparent reason?  Why were these built at
all if supposedly all that was needed was a barn?  (answer:  they
weren't gas chambers).  Why were Jews shipped hundreds of miles at
needless expense when they could have been shot on site instantly?  

Just off the top of my head.  You can start with those.  

>I do know from following his arguments, though, that Mike Stein knows
>the evidence, physical and documentary, concerning the gas chambers
>at Auschwitz-Birkenau incredibly well.

So do revisionists.  What does that prove?  

>Well, like I said, I've seen reproductions of the architectural plans,
>of aerial photographs and the like.  I've seen photographs of documents
>from various archives discussing the purchase of shower heads, gas-tight
>doors, multiple-muffle crematoria, and so on.  I've read first hand
>accounts.

Gas tight doors were used for bomb shelters, which the so-called "gas
chamber" cellars were designed as.  That is why the exhaust vents are
located at the bottom and not the top.  For a gas chamber, they are
reversed.   LK I had an air intake system.  

>Sure Bri.  Tell me about the primary evidence that you have studied
>in detail that leads you through intellectually honest processes to
>dismiss the Holocaust as a hoax.

The Revisionists use primary sources.   It is the primary sources,
such as "eyewitness testimony" that is so damning to the Holocaust
theory.

Brian Smith
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The Wizard of Communism is at it again.   

Earlier Pgissource revealed himself to be a man without integrity with
his transparent crusade of calling "communists" members of a group
(White Nationalists) who fought "the Ivan" harder and more fiercely
than any other on this planet.  The Wizard of Communism not only
destroyed his own credibility but exposed himself as both an oaf and
know-nothing.

The latest in the Commie-Wizard's backfiring campaign of see-through
self-amusing pranks is his new proclamation that the National Alliance
are "Satanists."  

Again, notice how the Wizard of Communism produced this latest bit of
fluff after the NA asked the Arlin-types were thoroughly embarrassed
after failing to answe the question:

"would you allow Satanists in your militia?" 

The Arlinists hemmed and hawed over it with liberal "tolerance"
nonsense for days, finally failing to render an answer.   Then the NA
responded to their disgraceful and flaccid equivocation with the flat
declaration that NA DOES NOT allow Satanists in their organization.
PERIOD.

To the obfuscate this marked difference in moral resolution between
Arlin-types and NA, the Wizard of Communism thought he'd pull another
lie out of his wizard's dunce cap.   He posted excerpts from the
Turner Diaries, claiming that the NA is a "Satanist Cult."  

Let's examine how tawdry and sad are the Wizard of Communism's
attempts at Marxist-style distortion.  He quotes, as "evidence" of the
NA "Satanism" the following passage:

>   "What I had read - it amounted to a book of about 400
>   typed pages - had lifted out of this world, out of my
>   day-to-day existsence as an underground fighter for
>   the Organization, and it had taken me to the top of
>   a high mountain from which I could see the whole
>   world, with all its nations and tribes and races, spread
>   out before me. And I could see the ages spread out
>   before me too, from the steaming, primordial swamps 
>   of a hundred million years ago to the unlimited possi-
>   bilities which the centuries and the millenia ahead
>   hold for us."

The Wizard sees in this the "evidence" of Satanism.  From the same
viewpoint, Darwin's _Origin of Species_ is a veritable "Satanic
Bible."    And he probably believes that as well.  

The Wizard of Communism only affirms negative stereotypes of militia
as ignorant superstitious yokels with little knowledge or concern for
facts.  

>Sounds pretty spiritual, doesn't it, commie I(v)an? Especially with the 4
>hour hypnotic time lapse that the character "Earl" experienced (maybe some
>residual effects from the drugs he was given to aid in susceptability?)
>Ah, but it gets even more mystical. Consider the setting for the Order's
>initiation:

>   "The only light came from two large candles toward
>   the back of the shop."

>And the attire:

>   "... a robe of some coarse, grey material with a hood
>   attached."

Under, the Wizard of Communism's broad definition, the old Christian
monks were Satanic as well -- since they wore hoods, and had Secret
Orders and ceremonies were often at night, in darkness.  

The Wizard of Communism's desperate gambit plods on:

>   "Williams placed a gold chain with a small pendant
>   around each of our necks." (really cyanide? or just
>   a classic protective talisman?)

The Wizard of Communism either failed to do his homework or is
actively lying again (more likely the latter) as the book makes clear
the pendant is a deeply-cherished token of Earl's commitment and
dedication to his cause until death and that it contains a cyanide
capsule to use upon being captured by the enemy.  

Nowhere in the book does Earl view the pendant as having "supernatural
powers" of any kind, nor he does Earl ever rely on it as such.  In
fact, he even fails to use the capsule before being captured, as the
explosion knocks him unconscious. 

Again, the Wizard of Communism grasps at straws, digging himself
deeper into the pit of non-credibility and lies. He continues:

>And the emotion:

>   "As members of the Order we are to be the bearers
>   of the Faith."

>   "Today I was, in a sense, born again."

Earl's philosophy of White loyalism is his belief, his values, his
faith.  Christians are not the only ones who "believe" and adhere to
something.   

The Commie-Wizard's transparent smears, knowing no bounds, continues
further:

>Ah, but could it just be a fancy club meeting, couldn't it? No. Consider
>Satanist Willie's words in the closing chapters:

>   "These were no soft-bellied, conservative businessmen
>   assembled for some Masonic mumbodumbo, no 
>   loudmouthed, beery red-necks letting off a little ritual-
>   ized steam..."

The Commie-Wizard, beyond all respect for even his own lie, actually
quotes a passage which refutes it.   The ceremony was not "Masonic
mumbo-jumbo" which too is often tiself considered  Satanic.  Earl
clearly distances himself mumbo-jumbo or supernatural "voodoo" of any
kind.

>Maybe a Christian thing, then? No. consider:

>   "...no pious, frightened churchgoers whining for the
>   guidance or protection of an anthropomorphic deity."

Satanists are only flip-sides of the Christian coin:  they TOO whine
for the guidance and power of a supernatural entity:  that being
Lucifer.  To go from one to the other is make the same superstitious
error which Earl denounces.   Earl refuses to do so and rejects them
both.   

The book discusses Earl's worldview in depth, and it is one which
reveres -evolution- as the meaning of life.  Again, Wizard
demonstrates his lack of knowledge of the book itself, simply cutting
and pasting like the two-bit hack that he is, portions in his
slobbering, grunting determination to make out his preposterous
"Satanic" case.  

however, not content with his such folly, Pssisource whips up a final
amusing bit of desperate cant, integrating all of elements of his case
as if doing so will help it:  

>Nope. The whole thing depicted in Satanist Willies book was all quite
>Satanic, little commie, from the candle light to the robes and pendants on
>down to the (un)holy book and the spiritual awakening to the Devil's words
>of death, destruction, and hate. 

The Commie-Wizard only reveals the subjective nature of this claim
with his statement "the Devil's words of death, destruction, and
hate."  The Commie-Wizard would have us believe, in other words, that
the White desire to preserve itself is "Satanic."  -- which well
reflects the level of mindless vituperation the Commie-Wizard is
willing to descend to uphold Marxist-egalitarianism.  

>Not too surprising given the contempt you
>queer little commies have expressed toward Christianity. Hence the reason
>for pointing out the Satanic influences (and the final statement I made of
>eternal cost) in your National Alliance commie club leadership which you
>now, shrieking like a hysterical little girl, attempt to call an admission
>of my Satanism? 

The Wizard's M.O. is typically to smear and to project upon others
those things he believes himself.  Thus does the Wizard try to
downplay his own Marxist views by attacking White Nationalists with
accusations of "communism."  

Now that the Commie-Wizard is accusing other Satanism, I can only
wonder whether he himself is interested in it.   

let's look at the evidence.  He and Arlin refused to answer the
question directly when queried "would you let Satanists into your
militia.  The NA does not: do YOU?"  Perhaps the Wizard is indeed a
Satanist as well as a marxist.    Indeed, he calls himself "Mr.
Wizard" with all of its connotations of sorcery, magic, and darkess.
It seems "Mr. Wizard" is again "protesting too much" and calling his
own views into question once again.

>BTW, when you kiddie commies want to whimper about banning, you may want
>to mention the organized effort to disrupt newsgroups as discussed in one
>of your "sister"  organizations:

Your screwtape tail is showing, Wizard of Communism.  Maybe your
spell-casting can give provide you with a portion of integrity, or
maybe a respect for facts.

>taa, taa, queer little commie. Your red undies and Satanism are showing
>again.

>Mr. Wizard
        ^^^^^^^^

Brian Smith
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pgissource@aol.com wrote:

>I notice in rereading the Turner Diaries that even your hero Willie admits
>in the story to having "taken a page from the communists' book" (his very
>words, little commie). Looks like you kiddies took a lot more than just
>one page on organization, though.

Taking out one page is not the same as taking the entire book as you
have Commie-Wizard!   Now hurry and finish _Marxism and Egaliarianism:
Brothers in Arms_ by Samuel Cohen so you can catch the fall clearance
at Borders.  40% off on _MLK:  An American Communist_, your hero's
biography in latest form!   Make haste, Commie-Wizard -- the sale ends
this week!!

Brian Smith
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mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney) wrote:

>In message <847689497$5058@atype.com> - Laura Finsten  wri
>tes:
>:>>However, as far as detecting Jews, Whites if need be can require blood
>:>>tests which will reveal certain genetic marker associated with
>:>>Jewishness or Ashkenazi blood.   I talked to a geneticist and he told
>:>>me it can be done.  
>:>
>:>Tell me how it can be done, Brian. What is the genetic marker?  What
>:>gene are you talking about that only Jews have?  And what do you mean
>:>by "Jewish or Ashkenazi" blood?  Do you mean Ashkenazi Jews, or do you
>:>also mean Sephardic Jews?

>Forget blood tests, genetic markers, etc. My wife has a nearly 100% record 
>of detecting Jewishness. And that's not based upon blood tests but upon 
>physiogomy, attitude, lifestyle, etc. If you required her to 
>systematize her procedure I doubt if it could be thoroughly done; its more 
>intuitive than anything. However, the fact remains that in over twenty years 
>my wife is almost perfect when it comes to detecting a Jew.  


>:>>Also, a 1/16th rule can be adopted as well.  
>:>
>:>And how are you going to verify this, Brian?  Are you going to require
>:>that everyone show up with their family records and blood samples going
>:>back 5 generations to search out the mysterious tell-all gene?

>You'd only have to go back to great-grand parents. that's not very difficult.

The target audience for Mrs. Finsten's argument -- White nationists --
will never be convinced one iota by it.   The idea that Whites cannot
separate themselves because they can't decide "who's White" is simply
a straw man.   In a close case, It is as easy as a group of people
deciding "yes" or "no"  -- erring toward exclusion.

That this method doesn't suit the tastes of multiracialists like Mrs.
Finsten is of no consequence.   The point remains that racial
selection is not only possible, but is actually very easy.  

Brian Smith
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ahabiz@aol.com wrote:


>In article <847737184$7530@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>How amusing it is when they claim Jews are a religion and not a
>>people, when over 95% of Jews are either athiest or do not attend
>>religious services. 

>it would be amusing indeed to watch you randomly generate statistics,
>little netnazi, if it weren't so sad....

>Arlin H. Adams

That number was taken from an interview with a rabbi!

Brian Smith
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mpitcava@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark T Pitcavage) wrote:

>In article <847298974$9144@atype.com>,

>John C. Stephens III  wrote:
>>
>>In <847295295$7983@atype.com> mpitcava@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark
>>T Pitcavage) writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>In article <847266498$6133@atype.com>, Brian Smith 
>>wrote:
>>>>Sorry, Darla.  No morally permissive or degenerate force can long
>>>>prevail either in battle or otherwise.   Yours is the formula for
>>>>ultimate defeat.   The more your moral views become accepted by
>>>>militia, the more the militia will become even less capable.
>>>
>>>Tell that to the Spartans, honey.
>>
>>I thought it was the Thebans who had the special homosexual unit?

>They -all- dabbled in the deed.

WRONG.  Although the homosexuality disease has always existed in a
few, Homosexuality has been considered unacceptable and condemned in
every Western society.   The acceptance of homosexuality in Greece and
Rome has been greatly overstated for predictable politically correct
uses.  Even in the decadence in the Roman empire, the Roman government
issued several decrees banning the homosexual Bacchanalian practices.
Homosexuality was as disgusting to the Romans as it is to us.  See the
Roman historian Livy XXXIX, p. 8-19 on the matter.   The Roman _Lex
Scantinia_ also provided a heavy penalty for homosexual perversion.
See also R.G. Waldeck's article "Homosexual International" in _Human
Events_ (1960) for the woefully corrosive effects of homosexuality on
societies of the past.

In Greece, Socrates was executed under the pretext of corrupting young
boys, so damaging was that accusation.  The Spartans had the STRICTEST
reproductive practices, as the sexual act was seen, quite rightly, as
the sacred means of reproduction and racial advancement.   Profligacy
was forbidden.  Spartan women would give gymnastic dances nude, which
the morally-softer Athenians found quite scandalous, so uncorrupted
was the Spartan view towards towards sex.  

Hey Mark, maybe you and Lissa can get together on recruiting up even
more homos and homo-lovers and integrating them into the militia.
Set up "sensitivity seminars" for the normal militia folk, which
according to the latest popular liberal thought will encourage
everyone to get in touch with "the homo within"!  Set up bunkers with
large bath-houses, American-flag condoms, and KY Jelly dispensers in
every barrack!   Get Arlin to "rubber" stamp it!    I'm sure he/she/it
would be just tittering with egalitarian pride to do so!   

But hey, don't take my advice, I'm probably steering you wrong.  The
more freaks, bull-dykes, and buggerers in your units, the better!  
Remember, you can't "discriminate" (hee hee).  That would be
"immoral"! (snicker)

Brian Smith
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Lissa Valerian  wrote:

>On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Brian Smith wrote:

>> Whites aren't the only people to kill and seize land -- just the only
>> ones made to feel guilty about it!

>Lissa

Excuse me, Lissa:  the fact that Whites are made to feel guilty for
acts which every race is also "guilty" of committing (yet are not
criticized HALF as much as Whites are) -- does not mean -I- feel
guilty for them.  

Since you are evidently confused about this point, let me clear up
your confusion for you:

I don't feel guilty.  Not ONE WIT.  

Anytime you need any confusion cleared up Lissa, I'm always happy to
oblige!

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>As>>far the the _Turner Diaries_ go, that novel represents the last resort
>>the White man will be forced to if the genocide of the White race
>>continues and he is repressed to the point that there is no other
>>alternative for his survival.  

>So it isn't pure fiction afterall, but a vision of the future.
>Thanks for clarifying that.

It is a rough vision of the future -if- Whites are denied
self-determination and survival as a race.

>>I do not want that to happen.  I would
>>like the White man's right to self-determination to be permitted and
>>the races go their separate ways.  Those who want diversity can have
>>their diversity.  

>And you want your self-determination at the expense of the same rights
>by all others who would be on or have interests in the territory in
>which you would establish your little all-White dream home.

I'm all for negotiating a plan.  I'd like Whites and Blacks and other
races to work together to divide the land by negotiation.  

However, Israel "cleansed" the land and forced Palestinians into
concentration camps to take the land for themselves.   If Jews are
justified in having a homeland for Jews then so are Whites. 

>>How wrong you are.  There are huge evidentiary problems with the
>>Holocaust theory, as anyone reading the revisionist positions can
>>clearly see.   Actually, the Holocaust theory, along with its
>>Orwellian suppression of dissent, clearly furthers the Jewish agenda.
>>But that's OK with you, right?

>I've asked you in another thread about what primary evidence you
>have studied exhaustively, and how you came to the conclusion that
>this is the biggest, most successful ruse in history.  You haven't
>given a single, concrete reason for dismissing the historicity of
>the Holocaust, Brian, you just keep repeating the same old denier
>spam.

I look at facts.  The facts that trace samples from the "gas chambers"
do not support gassing.  The fact the ashes for all those millions
supposedly cremated are -nowhere- to be found.  The fact that no order
was ever found for extermination by gassing.  You can look at whatever
"sources" you want.  I am looking at specifics.

>>Every revisionist site either links or mentions the Nizkor site
>>several times, including CODOH.  The revisionists want to openly
>>discuss the Holocaust, but they are prevented from doing so publicly:
>>it is an obvious act of cowardice on the part of the Holocausters.

>Actually, I recall hearing someone (although I can't remember who)
>say recently that they would debate Butz or Smith or some denier nut
>as long as they also debated whether the earth is flat, whether the
>Apollo moon landings ever occurred, and something else of comparable
>lunacy.  Folks like Deborah Lipstadt argue, rightfully in my opinion,
>that that kind of debate would give denial a credibility that it 
>does not merit.  It is not an "alternative theory", it is denial,
>plain and simple, whose primary goal is cleansing Hitler and the 
>Nazi regime.  Given this, I am not surprised that Germany has laws
>against it, although I don't agree with such laws. 

This is typical Holocauster hogwash.  And criminalizing revisionism is
not giving revisionism credibility?  

The reason why they refuse to openly debate is because they do not
want the public to know about the huge holes in the Holocaust.  The
Holocaust might crumble quite quickly if the counter-evidence to it
were permitted to be presented to and examined by the public.  

>>Zundel gives a link to Nizkor.  

>Yup.  And he does it in a dishonest way.  Instead of linking to the
>Nikzor QAR, for example, next to his own site's 66 (or however many
>haven't yet been pulled) questions and answers, he has some snide
>little remark in a corner somewhere that says something like "for
>relentless Holocaust promotion see Nizkor".

I find that snideness insignificant in comparison to the Holocausters'
"snideness" of throwing people in jail who differ with their (false)
view of history.

>>But not linking Nizkor is hardly
>>evidence of  "unwillingness to debate" Holocausters.  All the
>>revisionists sites consist of presenting the other side's claims
>>directly, and in the other side's own words, and then debunking these
>>claims.  

>It isn't the be all and end all, but it is indicative that what Zundel,
>Raven and Smith want is not real debate but an unfettered, high profile
>platform for disseminating their lies.  One might also ask why Zundel
>refuses to engage in debate on a.r., and why Raven has virtually 
>disappeared from that forum.  It is, after all, what that newsgroup
>was set up for.

Why does Zundel refuse to debate on a.r.?  I dunno.   Why do the
Holocausters refuse to openly debate before the public?

>>The revisionists would leap at ANY chance to debate Holocausters in
>>public -- but the Holocauster cowards will have none of it.  The
>>latter are actually smart for doing so.  If they permitted the public
>>to hear revisionism the Holocaust would likely crumble much faster
>>than it is today.

>Sure, Brian, I realise that you need to believe this.  Otherwise you
>might have to accept that you've been duped by a bunch of liars.   

Prove it wrong then.

>>It seems you cannot do so yourself even though you evidently are so
>>certain the extermination by gassing occurred.   I don't blame you not
>>knowing the theory:  the issues are vast and they do get complex.

>I would wager that I know the evidence a helluva lot better than you
>do.  And I'm willing to engage in a discussion of it if you'd like to
>accept my wager.

Sure, why not.

>>However, I do blame for slavishly accepting as truth a theory you have
>>not investigated for yourself.

>I've asked you several times to tell me about your own investigations,
>Brian.  

See above.

>>Yes, still reading up on the "Order Police."  Police Battalion 101 I
>>believe it is.  I have little fear of the claims.   The claims of the
>>Holocaust are invariably grandiose and exaggerative.   It seems to be
>>the nature of the animal!

>Seems that you've arrived at a conclusion before you've even read it!
>Maybe you can tell me how you got to that conclusion, Bri.  Doesn't 
>seem to be any need for you to finish the book.  You already know how
>the story ends, after all.  

If you read my post closely you'll notice that lies -tend- to be the
case with the Holocaust.   I can only believe it will probably be the
same with this claim.

>>The people have nothing to do with it.  The current German regime is
>>simply the same puppet regime installed by the Allies after WWII.  The
>>people never "voted" on these Orwellian laws.

>But they elected the government(s) which have passed and upheld those
>laws.  

LOL!   This is sort of like saying that everything Clinton does is
what the people favor.  And you really believe that?  How silly.

>>Jews have had no appreciable impact on the ongoing trend by other Jews
>>to successfully criminalize speech with Orwellian laws.  Jews
>>certainly haven't applied Jewish power half as much against these
>>measures, and they have in FAVOR of these measures.  The Jewish
>>opposition to other Jewish supression has been lukewarm at best.  

>Men have had no appreciable impact on the ongoing increase in violence
>against women by men.  Therefore men are all guilty of violence against
>women.  The male opposition has been lukewarm at best, which suggests
>that all men are in favour of such violence.  Get the analogy?

I hardly think the relationship between man and women is hardly
commensurate to that between Whites and Jews.  Bad analogy.

>>That is what I am doing:  looking out for the White interest.   At the
>>same time, I am aware of the occurrence of the individual differences,
>>and deal with people on an individual level, while being aware of
>>general racial truths as well.

>Who put a bunch of fascists in charge of the "White interest", Brian?

I don't know.  Who put a bunch of Jews in charge of several key areas
of the U.S. government, including the CIA, the Federal Reserve, and
the Treasury?  (Deutch, Greenspan, Rubin)

>>If Jews are in
>>favor of free speech it is up to take effective action to halt their
>>fellow Jews.   So far they have not.  

>Gee Bri, democracy doesn't work that way.  I agree with you on the free
>speech.  Even though I am subject to a lot of antisemitic hate, I agree
>with you that "hate speech" is a concept too ill-defined to be legislated
>against without seriously infringing on freedom of speech.  

I thought you said you weren't Jewish.  Now you tell me you were
subjected to anti-semitic hate.  Which one is it?

>But unlike
>you, I don't see these laws foisted on an unwilling public by Jews.  I
>perhaps have some better familiarity with the subject than you, since I
>live in a country that has such laws (and has seen only one successful
>prosecution, too - James Keegstra, who was peddling Holocaust denial to
>14 years instead of high school history).  A lot of the people who 
>support the laws are WWII veterans, Brian, people who fought the Nazis,
>and who lost friends and family in that war.

So what?  Are you insinuating that justifies it?

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney) wrote:

>>In message <847689497$5058@atype.com> - Laura Finsten  writes:

>My wife has a nearly 100% record 
>>of detecting Jewishness. And that's not based upon blood tests but upon 
>>physiogomy, attitude, lifestyle, etc. If you required her to 
>>systematize her procedure I doubt if it could be thoroughly done; its more 
>>intuitive than anything. However, the fact remains that in over twenty years 
>>my wife is almost perfect when it comes to detecting a Jew.  

>Sort of like a well-trained dog that can sniff out drugs, or one of those
>pigs that finds truffles?  So you think that your wife's sniffing ability
>should supercede any objective assessment of a person's identity?  That 
>will certainly make people confident, won't it.

What "people"are you talking about, who "need" to be made "confident"
Mrs. Finsten?  Those who want White separation know it is fairly easy
for Whites to choose who is White and who is not.  They already have
full confidence.

Who lacks confidence -- you?   Well, that does not matter in the
least.  You have no wish to participate in a White state.  Your
"confidence" is not needed.

>>:>>Also, a 1/16th rule can be adopted as well.  

>>:>And how are you going to verify this, Brian?  Are you going to require
>>:>that everyone show up with their family records and blood samples going
>>:>back 5 generations to search out the mysterious tell-all gene?

>>You'd only have to go back to great-grand parents. that's not very difficult.

>No Ian, if you take your shoes and socks off, you might be able to figure
>out that one Jewish great grandparent would make a person 1/8 Jewish in descent.
>The easy way to figure it out is this - 4 grandparents, each of whom had two
>parents.  So that's 4x2 as the denominator in the fraction.  That's 8.  You
>have to go back one more generation, to great-great grandparents, to get 1/16.
>Hope you guys can figure this all out before you set your wife to sniffing
>for Jews.  How does she detect fractional descent, anyway?  Only some of her
>epithelial hair raise, instead of all of it?

Fractional traces can be "washed out" -if- necessary, Mrs Finsten.  

Your false mantra that Whites are incapable of choosing for themselves
who they want to participate in their White state is getting you
nowhere among any White nationalists you may be trying to convince. 

Brian Smith
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mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney) wrote:

>:>    Up until the late 70s, the highest incidence of rape was of Black
>:>women by White men.  Historically, most rapes have been of Black women
>:>by White men, and that's not even including what happened during slavery.

>I suppose you have some statistics to back that up? Today, 99% of interracial 
>rapes are committed by Black men against White women. Are you attempting to 
>justify this?

99.9% of interracial rapes are Black on Whites.  Where's slippery
Scott MacEachern?  I need to be amused.  I want Scott to produce
another one of his creative egalitarian explanations for why this is.
I want him to tell us that 99.9% is "an insignificant percentage" and
that "it does not constitute a substantial difference between Whites
and Blacks."  

It's interesting to watch liberal dogmatists in action.  Kind of like
watch protozoa separate under a microscope.  Ugly but interesting.  

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>What "people"are you talking about, who "need" to be made "confident"
>>Mrs. Finsten?  Those who want White separation know it is fairly easy
>>for Whites to choose who is White and who is not.  They already have
>>full confidence.

>Gee, Bri, I guess I'm talking about all those people who don't know all the
>details of their great-great grandparents ancestry.  If one great-great
>grandparent who wasn't "White" disqualifies you from membership in your
>White dream home, then what happens if you have a couple of great-great-
>great grandparents who aren't all White, Bri?  Did you finish elementary
>school, Bri?  Can you figure out the arithmetic on that?

Your bot-like argument that Whites can't decide for themselves who
they want in their own White state is spurious.  White nationalists
will decide from their own discretion based on appearance and
guidelines -or- genetic analysis in a close call -- always erring on
the side of exclusion.   Most questionables will not be attracted to a
White state, thus solving the problem in large part, leaving
relatively few decisions to be made.   

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>cutter001@aol.com wrote:

>>>Same thing with movies.  If people don't come out to watch a movie, it
>>fades from the theaters real fast.

>>If people don't "come out" to see a movie it will fade from the theater,
>>but most movie studios these days are placing an increased value on
>>over-seas and video sales, so much so that these factors are figured in in
>>the projected profits of a film.

>This is true.  But you are still assuming that viewers have no choice
>about what to watch, as if they are passive idiots who don't have the
>brains or the will to make decisions for themselves. Your little National
>Appliance minions may so easily manipulated, but then they are hardly
>representative of the population at large, are they.

That funny.   We are able to see through to who owns and controls the
media.   Not bad! 
  
>>>So one observation I would make on this subject is that, with respect to
>>"fluff" programming on television and movies, it doesn't matter who is
>>making the stuff.

>>I wonder if you would say that if the programs were made by "Nazis."

>Well, this raises quite a different issue, doesn't it.  There is no
>doubt that the Nazis (and I reserve that term for the NSDAP) exercised
>very stringent control over all aspects of media in Germany and then
>its conquered and occupied territories, including strict censorship
>of all news reports.  Are you suggesting that the situation in North
>America is even remotely comparable, Cutty?

The media bosses wield virtually monolithic control of the media.   In
contrast to an over regime, the media pose as 'un-biased" and refuse
to report the fact Jewish media domination to the masses.   Instead
they are deliberately silent on this fact.  The media's biases
predictably reflects those of the Jews who control it.

>>>What determines what stays there and is widely available for viewing is
>>how many tune in.

>>But when the content is designed to be persuasive in favor of certain
>>political, social and other issues the people have no choice of what to
>>tune in.

>I have a real problem with the idea underlying this statement.  Well,
>actually, "ideas".  I'll deal with the last one first.  The choice is
>easy, Cutty, people can tune out.  Switch the sucker off.  Save your
>money and get rid of cable.

His name is "Cutter."  Would you like to be called "Finstey" from now
on?  

>How exactly is the media "persuasive in favor of certain political,
>social and other issues", Cutty?  You might be able to point selectively
>to a couple of commercial television programmes or movies that, as 
>isolated cases, could be construed in this way.  But the overall body
>of programming and movies certainly does not.  

The media is full of politically correct propaganda: in both news and
entertainment.  Race-mixing on television is commonplace.  The
messages are often subtle but the messages are there:  

1)  all races are "equal"  
2)  it doesn't if a White person mixes their race with a Negro 
3)  Jews are a poor persecuted, victimized race of people, 
4)  the White man is an evil person responsible for history's wrongs
5)  that for a White person to want to choose their own kind is
wicked.   
6)  That homosexuality is normal healthy lifestyle.

This same propaganda is pumped out 24/7 through virtually every
sitcom, movie and commercial.

>>>Prove to me that the owners of any newspaper exercise direct editorial
>>control over its content.  Then do the same thng for netork television
>>news.  Then maybe we'll have something to talk about.

>>It's not the "owners" who control content on television, its the
>>producers.  It you look at most of their names you will find alot of them
>>to be jewish.

>And how, exactly, do the Jewish and non-Jewish productions differ, Cutty?
>With specific references to substance, please.

Jews enforce their biases through the media in a number of ways.
There are a disproportionate number of Jews in the media to begin
with:  in newspapers, television, and Hollywood.   If any newspaper
dares to criticize this disproportionate Jewish control or even point
it out,  that newspaper will be shut down by Jewish boycott.  Witness
what happened to one of the last independent papers in America, in
Cleveland Ohio, which dared to point out the 2000% disproportionate
number of Jewish appointed by Clinton for government positions:  it
was destroyed through Jewish boycott.   In these ways Jews enforce the
Jewish line.   

The knee-jerk response is to defend the Jewish boycott and media
control as "legal" but that isn't the point.  The point is Jewish
control of the media through ownership, management, and boycott.  And
the Jewish control of the media -isn't- good for White people.  

Brian Smith
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pgissource@aol.com wrote:

>In article <847841673$13617@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)

>Actually, it had to do with your attacks combined with your constant
>misrepresentations of what you queer little people think in the (inter)
>NATIONAL (commie) ALLIANCE. Besides, it's impossible for me to answer that
>question. I'm not in a militia. I'm one of the antis, remember? Learn to
>tell the truth and distinguish reality from your world of fiction, little
>euro-commie revolution worshipper.

The Wizard of Communism here openly proclaims his opposition to the
militia.   The Commie-Wizard is Arlin's best buddy, whom Arlin
affectionately calls "Yo Wiz" in a self-abased imitation of Black
jive, as Arlin is incapable of standing up as a White man.   

Arlin and the Wizard of Communism:  two Nizkor-loving
Marxist-egalitarian, fag-apologists:  smug as two "MEFA's" can be --
smug with their fellow-travellers the ADL and Southern Povery Law
Center!    The Commie-Wizard keeps his heroes Marx and Lenin's flame
burning brightly!

>But there is an interesting aspect your bring up here, namely the "Order"
>and its perversion of Christian and other ceremony. I'm glad to see you
>admit it here. Such perversions, whether of Christian, Pagan, Wiccan, or
>other belief practices, are quite common among Satanic cults. The fact
>that you are aware that this is a perversion is quite intriguing.
>Certainly you appear to be admitting to the religious nature and flavor of
>the depicted ceremony.

The Wizard of Communism, not content to smear White nationalists, is
now smearing the beliefs of the militia and its various religions,
including Pagans, Wiccans, and even Christians -- as "perversions."  

So far the Wizard of Communism has managed to insult 1)  militias in
categorical opposition to them, 2)  White patriots who fought against
his Marxist-egalitarianism, 3)  several different religionists  and 4)
all law abiding American citizens by his smugness with the ADL -- the
most treacherous group in America to the right to bear arms and
freedom of speech.  

And as always Arlin is in the Commie-Wizard's corner, yapping in
approval!

>> -- which well reflects the level of mindless 
>>vituperation the Commie-Wizard is willing to descend to 
>>uphold Marxist-egalitarianism. 

>That's liberal egalitarianism ... and still proud of it, little
>euro-commie.

Again, the Wizard of Communism fully admits his own Marxism, choosing
instead to label it with the typical commie-double talk:  "liberal
egalitarianism."   

Marxism is Marxism, Wizard.  It's good that you fully admit your pride
in it and come out of the closet.  There's no use hiding it from me --
NA's can smell Marxist-egalitarians a mile away!  

>>>Mr. Wizard   <=== Name courtesy of Dr. Mark Pitcavage
>>        ^^^^^^^^

Now the Commie-Wizard desperately tries to "blame" his name on another
person, even though he himself fully adopted it, and signs his name
"Mr. Wizard" in every post.  

>But in any case, in terms of religion and socialist revolution, the rather
>racialist le Bon said, "Although in its beginnings a religious or
>political revolution may very well be supported by rational elements, it
>is developed only by the aid of mystic and affective elements which are
>absolutely foreign to reason." 

Now, using the broad brush of distortion the Wizard of Communism
always uses, attempts to villify as "irrational"  the White patriots
of the American Revolution -- a political revolution.   The reason of
course why the Commie-Wizard hates the American Revolutionists is
because they were White men, racialist men, who completely opposed his
disgraceful, dishonorable Marxist-egalitarianism and unmanly
homophilia.   

>Mr. Wizard
         ^^^^^^^

The Commie-Wizard continues to sign his name with the appellation of
the sorcerer.

Brian Smith
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jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:

>In article <5639gt$aho@is05.micron.net>,
>   sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>::However, those of us who value our White race are determined to secure
>::its survival by any means necessary.

>Is that a threat to institute another genocide, Brian, or are you just jerking 
>off, as usual?

"Another" genocide?  The only genocide being instituted is the
genocide of Whites.  The Holocaust is a hoax as you should know
"loving" (sic) Jim.

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
http://www.codoh.com/
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http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
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http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html

>     Love, Jim Walsh

>[P.S. I sometimes correct spelling and grammar in quoted material without intending to modify the meaning.]

Jim often-times posts without intending to make any sense.

Brian Smith
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fresh@panix.com wrote:

>dleonik@accesscomm.net (Dan Leonik) wrote:

>>josephcl@scf.usc.edu (Joseph Clark) wrote:

>>>Hey brian

>>>Instead of repeating this same list of web pages over and over and quoting
>>>history that you can't or won't back up with references, can you tell us
>>>something that you have personally seen?

>>Question. How can one 'see' someone not being gassed? As to these
>>websites:

>>>> http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
>>>> http://www.codoh.com/
>>>> http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
>>>> http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
>>>> http://www.air-photo.com/
>>>> http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html

>>They have all the forensic evidence proving that  what we were told
>>about the Jews and WWII is simply not true.

>They have also all been debunked by scholars with real credentials.
>And in the case of Zuendel and Raven (at the very least), there are
>clear connections to Neo-nazi organizations and individuals.

"Real credentials" my foot.  What real credentials are you talking
about? 

>>Jews use these fabricated stories for a variety of reasons, but the
>>most important one in this newsgroup, is to get us all teary-eyed
>>every time a miscreant shows up at our border with his hat in his
>>hand. Don't be fooled. The vast majority of these nonWhite immigrants
>>want only the goodies that can only come from a White society. They
>>bring in the problems within them in their genetic heritage - like a
>>Typhoid Mary.

>Wow.  White Society.   Gave us Hitler, Stalin, Franco, Mussolini.
>Wow.

And Jews gave us genocidal communism.   

Dan Leonik wrote:
>>Let the bastards wallow in the filth they've created for themselves in
>>their own countries and keep them out for good.

Damn right.  I sure am not going to feel "guilty" about it.   I don't
care how much "poor little non-White" propaganda the Jew-media gives
out. 

Guilt is for liberals like "loving" (sic) Jim.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



From sbrian@micron.net Fri Nov 15 06:53:07 PST 1996
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kate@accessone.com (Kathleen Mulhern) wrote:

>In article <55u28a$ggu@is05.micron.net>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>*Noone is saying a lot of people didn't die.  However, typhus epidemics
>*do not prove extermination by gassing.   The Jews claim Hitler was
>*trying to exterminate Jews but this claim has no physical evidentiary
>*basis.  Saying otherwise is inaccurate and dishonest -- which
>*describes the Holocaust guilt-industry quite well.  

>Why brian... I thought that Zyklon B was used for STOPPING the spread of
>typhus!!  

Zyklon B saved countless lives.  However, even Zyklon-B could not
fully halt typhus epidemics, although it succeeded in doing so on more
than one occasion.   

>So how on earth could all those people have died when you say
>that Zyklon B was used to stop the spread of a disease you say they died
>from?  

Most of the people who died did so from the breakdown of conditions in
the camps at the end of the war.    

>And by the way, if you've ever read "Mein Kampf" you would see the
>unnatural anger Hitler had for those who practiced the Jewish faith.  He
>said that had they all been exterminated sooner, World War I would not
>have happened.  

The passage you are referring to refers to the specific clique of Jews
who subverted the German war effort behind the lines in Germany,
staging a communist revolution (as Jews are wont to do) in Germany
upon the threshold of a German victory, after hundreds of thousands of
Germans died for it.   The German army was then demobilized resulting
in Versailles and the collapse of the Germany economy, in which it
took a baleful of money to buy a meal.  Meanwhile, while the Germans
starved in poverty, Jews went around Germany buying up huge estates
for pittances using international currency.   Jews completely
exploited Germany in this way.  

>You could also, of course, look at the regulations and
>blatantly anti-Semetic literature, speeches and legislation the Third
>Reich passed once they controlled the government.  But no.. that would be
>too easy.  

Where does it call for the extermination of Jews?   Even the NSDAP
platform does not mention eliminating Jews anywhere.

>And it would also prove you to be, once again, a liar
>attempting to pass your agenda of hatred, falsehoods and sliminess on to
>the general public.  Which, of course, no one buys.

Revisionism is growing internationally despite of, and because of the
primitive effort to censor it.   In a few countries, such as Egypt,
most people already know it is a fraud.

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
http://www.codoh.com/
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
http://www.air-photo.com/
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



From sbrian@micron.net Fri Nov 15 06:53:08 PST 1996
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kate@accessone.com (Kathleen Mulhern) wrote:

>In article <328a1e29.7048140@news2.cais.com>, marshall@haverford.edu wrote:

>*>Why brian... I thought that Zyklon B was used for STOPPING the spread of
>*>typhus!!  So how on earth could all those people have died when you say
>*>that Zyklon B was used to stop the spread of a disease you say they died
>*>from?  
>*
>*He didn't say that.  You are deliberately misleading.

>Actually he did say exactly that.  He claims that Zyklon B was used only
>as a disinfectant to stop the spread of typhus.  Have you been reading his
>posts?  Obviously not.

>*The German leaders at the time were quite angry at " those who
>*practiced the Jewish faith " but it was not their religious practices
>*which caused the anger.  It was, rather, manic greed and the wholesale
>*destruction of the German economy, causing privation, destitution, and
>*starvation.

>Actually, World War I and the global Great Depression caused the things
>you discribe, not Jews.  And Hitler had a huge problem with Jews from the
>time he was young, and discribes it fully in "Mein Kampf."  

>*Instead of just slandering, why not come up with something substantial
>*next time?  Try waiting to post until you have.

>Instead of proving how much knowledge of history you DON'T have, why not
>read some sources about the era next time?  Try waiting to post until you
>have.  And if you think I am guiltly of "slander," what is brian, someone
>who is a member of the National Alliance and calls anyone without pale
>skin "mud" and continually perpetuates the lie that the Holocaust never
>happened, even though my grandfather's entire family was killed therein? 
>A saint?  His words slander my family, my friends, my values and my
>country.  Stop apologizing for the liars, and try doing some real
>research.

Kate, you should stop spreading lies.  The Holocaust is a myth, and it
is crumbling.  

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
http://www.codoh.com/
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
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http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



From sbrian@micron.net Fri Nov 15 06:53:08 PST 1996
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fresh@panix.com wrote:

>Anyone but a yellow coward posts under their real name.  As for your
>home address, that's none of my business; as for your e-mail address,
>you're most likely violating your ISPs rules by not giving your real
>e-mail address.

Perhaps they don't to be harrassed by Jews like yourself?

>>You really hate that Bill of Rights don't you?   Maybe you should
>>choose another country?

>No, I hate you, you fuckstick.  You Nazis who hide behind the Bill of
>Rights, when the first thing you'd do if you ever got power is take it
>away, sicken me.

Andrew fulfills every negative stereotype about Jews in existence,
don't he.

>>Meanwhile, you have made no substantial responses to any of my points
>>above, so I guess the matter is closed for now.  And I have to travel
>>soon, so you'll have to find another target for your hatred.  

>That's OK; I'll find you.

I'm sure he's shaking!

>íéîåç íéìãðñ éì ùé
>My first Hebrew sentence.

Whoopie-shit.

Brian Smith
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fresh@panix.com wrote:

>>Congratulations, genius, on your first Hebrew sentence.  If there is
>>to be justice in the world, you'll have another sentence before too
>>long.  

>For what..being Jewish?  Nice try, Dr. Goebbels, but I don't think so.

Andrew the Jew is so predictable.  He calls anyone who disagrees with
him Nazi.  It's the old, inevitable Jewish tactic.  

>>Goldstein, at any rate, was clearly a mass-murderer (although we do
>>not call him a "terrorist", and, as you know, has become the object of
>>worship in his adoptive country.

>Rabin said of him, "Righteous Judaism spits you out."   Only that very
>reactionary fringe of Israeli society (which, btw, gets the most
>press--further proof of no Zionist conspiracy) supports what Goldstein
>did.  He is a murderer, and if there is a Hell, he'll burn in it.

Where are the documentaries on "Jewish hatred" done by the media?
None of course.

Brian Smith
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kate@accessone.com (Kathleen Mulhern) wrote:

>In article <55u28a$ggu@is05.micron.net>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>*Noone is saying a lot of people didn't die.  However, typhus epidemics
>*do not prove extermination by gassing.   The Jews claim Hitler was
>*trying to exterminate Jews but this claim has no physical evidentiary
>*basis.  Saying otherwise is inaccurate and dishonest -- which
>*describes the Holocaust guilt-industry quite well.  

>Why brian... I thought that Zyklon B was used for STOPPING the spread of
>typhus!!  

Zyklon B saved countless lives.  However, even Zyklon-B could not
fully halt typhus epidemics, although it succeeded in doing so on more
than one occasion.   

>So how on earth could all those people have died when you say
>that Zyklon B was used to stop the spread of a disease you say they died
>from?  

Most of the people who died did so from the breakdown of conditions in
the camps at the end of the war.    

>And by the way, if you've ever read "Mein Kampf" you would see the
>unnatural anger Hitler had for those who practiced the Jewish faith.  He
>said that had they all been exterminated sooner, World War I would not
>have happened.  

The passage you are referring to refers to the specific clique of Jews
who subverted the German war effort behind the lines in Germany,
staging a communist revolution (as Jews are wont to do) in Germany
upon the threshold of a German victory, after hundreds of thousands of
Germans died for it.   The German army was then demobilized resulting
in Versailles and the collapse of the Germany economy, in which it
took a baleful of money to buy a meal.  Meanwhile, while the Germans
starved in poverty, Jews went around Germany buying up huge estates
for pittances using international currency.   Jews completely
exploited Germany in this way.  

>You could also, of course, look at the regulations and
>blatantly anti-Semetic literature, speeches and legislation the Third
>Reich passed once they controlled the government.  But no.. that would be
>too easy.  

Where does it call for the extermination of Jews?   Even the NSDAP
platform does not mention eliminating Jews anywhere.

>And it would also prove you to be, once again, a liar
>attempting to pass your agenda of hatred, falsehoods and sliminess on to
>the general public.  Which, of course, no one buys.

Revisionism is growing internationally despite of, and because of the
primitive effort to censor it.   In a few countries, such as Egypt,
most people already know the Holocaust is a fraud.

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
http://www.codoh.com/
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
http://www.air-photo.com/
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



From sbrian@micron.net Fri Nov 15 07:17:47 PST 1996
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schlafo@nevada.edu (OSCAR SCHLAF) wrote:

>Parker Beatley (civil@anet-stl.com) wrote:
>: History has never been kind to countries that court multiculturalism. In
>: fact, diversity has been the single most obvious pattern noted in failed
>: societies.

> Tell it to the Swiss 

What "Swiss" diversity are you referring to?

>and read about a little Empire called Rome.

It went into the toilet because of diversity.  Oops!

> And read up on US, Canadaian, Argentinian, & Venezulean history.

The US and Canada are turning into third-world cesspools of chaos and
crime under diversity.
 
> It was the absense of multi-cultralism in the central government that 
>brought about the destruction in addition to other factors (such as the 
>Soviet invasion of Afghanistan).  Many of the countries you listed have
>one ethnic group dominating at the expense of others, and this breeds
>resentment and anger among the other ethnic groups. If all ethnic groups 
>are respected equally & given equal economic & political power you end up 
>with a peaceful nation such as Switzerland, which has 4 national 
>languages & ethnic groups and has been in existence as an independent &
>united nation since the 1400s.

That's the problem:  ethnic groups can't simply "coexist."  The
natural and unchangable force is for them to be in conflict with one
dominating over another, resulting in inevitable ethnic war.  And you
-want- that inevitable result, right?

>: Below, I will be leaving resources for further study of the problems of
>: diversity.

> Ignorance, such as yours, not diversity is the problem.

You are ignorant of nature in wanting diversity.

> In Missouri, in St. Louis in 1994 there were 207 murders.
>: Despite the fact that St. Louis has more whites than blacks, of the 207
>: murders, 199 were committed by blacks and only 8 by whites.

> Perhaps it's because the poverty rate in Black communities is about 30% 
>higher then in White communites. Same with unemployment within the Black 
>community. Poverty breeds anger and anger breeds violence. Over 90% of all
>crimes in the US are commited by low-income people.

This is just an excuse for Black crime.  Poor Whites do not commit
even one-fourth the crime of Blacks.   More liberal hogwash.

>: In addition, nationwide, 50% of all young black males have to spend time
>: in a prison for a felony conviction by age 30. Is this the type of group
>: you would want to live next to or to have bussed into your daughter's
>: school? I think not.

> I wouldn't want them busing  the KKK or a Neo_Nazis. 

Sure.  Instead you want Black neanderthals bussed into your
neighborhood to rob and attack Whites on a continual basis.  Your
chances of being savagely raped or killed by a Black is 1000 times
higher than being attacked by a "White racist."

> The Southwestern States are now nearly ripe for their return to
>: Mexico.

> I don't think the US is likly to turn over the South-Western States any 
>time soon. And as I said Hispanics are a minority in every South-Western
>State still.  Texas, New Mexico,Arizona, and Nevada.  I should know since I 
>live in Nevada. 

Regardless, mestizos will soon own the Southwestern due to their high
birthrate.

Brian Smith
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From sbrian@micron.net Fri Nov 15 07:17:48 PST 1996
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an_american wrote:

>>>an_american wrote:
>>> 
>>> As for the blood sucking Smith and his fellow subhuman garbage:
>>> If only we could transport YOU back in time to Auschwitz and make YOU the tortured
>>> and emaciated prisoner with YOUR family dying in the chambers.... then
>>> I think you might think twice about all this.
>>> 
>>> -an_american
> 

>>    Here we go again:  anyone who disagrees with this guy is A Nazi Who
>> Wants To Kill Six Million Jews.


>"Disagree" ?  Refusing to accept documented facts accepted internationally ( as well as
>by the post-war German government) is not "disagreement". 

>Most reasonable people would think that this is a tiny example of your
>blood sucking political motives.

>Why can't you assholes just give it up? THAT'S the question.

>-an_american

That's right.  Let's just "give it up" and let the White race go down
the sewage drainpipe of history.  No big loss, right?

Brian Smith
www.natall.com





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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>smaceach@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Scott MacEachern) wrote:

>>Brian wouldn't know how to _find_ a library. This stuff that he's
>>copied here is posted in various anti-Jewish sites on the Internet --
>>it's all one document, published by some nut cases called The Old
>>Order Brotherhood. You can find it, for example, at
>>http://www3.stormfront.org/jewish/talmud.html

As if a secondary carrier of the material could refutes its existence.
The Jewish professor Shakak and other Jews fully denounce the Talmud
for anti-gentile perversion and venom.  NIce try, slippery Scott.

>Yeah, I know, Scott.  It has been said that I sometimes go too far
>in giving people the benefit of the doubt.  I gave him the opportunity
>to admit that he's just posting junk he's downloaded (or someone else
>has downloaded for him) from the usual run-of-the-mill white
>supremacist websites.  He didn't want to come clean.  I'm not
>surprised.

I'm not surprised all you can you do is babble about it rather than
refute the venom of the un-edited Talmud which Jews themselves are
embarrassed by.

>>Tell me, Brian, with all this stuff that you emit about fearless
>>scholarship, have you _ever_ read a book on you own, or do you always
>>just regurgitate the bits of stuff that your masters have told you to
>>believe?

>I think someone is trying to compile some stuff on Goldhagen and
>Browning for him.  I can't believe he'd actually read anything.
>I'm not sure he'd really know how.

Sure Mrs Finsten.

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>>Laura Finsten  wrote:

>>What about the accounts of electrocution and steaming?  They have long
>>been proven false.  

>Yes, and they were accepted as uncredible at the Nuremberg trials.  No
>one was convicted for electrocuting or steaming anybody.  What 
>proportion of the eyewitness testimonies refer to electrocution and
>steaming, Brian?

The point is the unreliability of contradictory eyewitness testimony
without physical evidence.

>>Why do aerial photos demonstrate there are were no
>>vents over the gas chambers?   

>They don't, if you are referring to the induction vents on the roofs
>of the Kremas built later on.

The photos were taken at a time when the "gas chambers" were said to
be fully operational.

>>Why was Anne Frank shipped all Europe
>>if she was sickly and we are told they automatically exterminated the
>>young and the old?  

>Funny thing, that.  People who were sickly tried desperately to hide
>it to avoid being killed.  She didn't fall mortally ill until after
>she had been evacuated from Auschwitz.

But she was young.  They said the Germans automatically killed the
old, young, and sick immediately upon arrival.

>>Why was Anne Frank's father found recuperating in
>>a German hospital at the end of the war if the intent was
>>extermination?  

>I can't answer that one.

Well I can't either, you know.

>>Why do the documents show that thousands of old and
>>sick were not "exterminated"?  

>Which documents are those?  And what makes you think that the 
>population of Europe's "old and sick" Jews numbered only in the
>thousands, Brian?

The evidence shows that, in fact, a very high percentage of the Jewish
inmates at Auschwitz were not able to work, and were nevertheless not
killed.  An internal German telex message dated Sept. 4, 1943, from
the chief of the Labor Allocation department of the SS Economic and
Administrative Main Office (WVHA), reported that of 25,000 Jewish
inmates in Auschwitz, only 3,581 were able to work, and that all of
the remaining Jewish inmates -- some 21,500, or about 86 percent --
were unable to work. 

(Archives of the Jewish Historical Institute of Warsaw, German
document No. 128, in: H.)

>>Why do the samples of HCN from the
>>so-called "gas chambers" only support the thesis the gas chambers were
>>used as to delouse?  

>They don't.  The levels of HCN from the gas chambers are far lower
>than those in the delousing chambers because it takes a much higher
>concentration of HCN to kill lice than humans, and because the
>gas chambers were ventilated quickly after the HCN was induced.

But HCN was used in far greater quantities for gassing.   People were
supposedly gassed up to every 15 minutes.  Delousing was done only
periodically.

>>Why was there a new gas chamber built underground
>>at great expense and for no apparent reason?  

>For no apparent reason?  You are a fool, Brian.  The reason is
>very apparent.  The Nazis were preparing to deal with the Jews
>of southeastern Europe, Bri.  They were getting ready for the
>massive importation of people from Hungary and Greece.

There was no need to do so, as a simple barn would have sufficed
according to the theory.   No need to spend the extra for elaborate
krema, and the added cost of putting it underground makes no sense.
They were obviously to be used as bomb shelters as the Germans
claimed.

>>Why were these built at
>>all if supposedly all that was needed was a barn?  (answer:  they
>>weren't gas chambers).  

>What feature are you talking about, Brian?  What date?  How the
>hell am I am supposed to answer a question like this?

There are Holocaust accounts in which a large barn was supposedly a
gas chamber.

>>Why were Jews shipped hundreds of miles at
>>needless expense when they could have been shot on site instantly?

>Whoever said the Nazis were rational, Brian?  

The Holocaust reliance on Nazi "irrationality" when Germans were
typically very efficient doesn't bode well for the theory.
 
>But I'll turn this
>question back on you.  Why were hundreds of thousands, if not 
>millions, of Jewish children and elderly people transported hundreds
>of miles into Poland if the purpose was labour and only labour?
>Why would the Nazis take on the expense of the transportation,
>housing and feeding of all those "useless mouths" when it would be
>far more "logical" to leave the geezers and the kids behind to fend
>for themselves?  

The purpose was ultimately ship -all- of them out after the war or at
first opportunity, was being done before the war and then it was
interrupted by the war.

>>>I do know from following his arguments, though, that Mike Stein knows
>>>the evidence, physical and documentary, concerning the gas chambers
>>>at Auschwitz-Birkenau incredibly well.

>>So do revisionists.  What does that prove?

>Well, I've only been reading alt.revisionism for about 10 months,
>but I have yet to see one who has bettered him in an argument.

I sometimes watch Matt Giwer on alt.revisionism and I have yet to see
-him- bettered.  
  
>>Gas tight doors were used for bomb shelters, which the so-called "gas
>>chamber" cellars were designed as.  

>Why did the bomb shelters have shower heads but no plumbing, Brian?
>Why were the bomb shelters in the same complexes as the crematoria?
>Why were so many crematoria needed in a "work camp"?

Copper plumbing is often stolen from abandoned buildings.  Why create
a shower-room to fool people when they is no need to?  How could
inmates not notice people disappear and not also fight back or report
these rumours to the outside?  Several partisans escaped the
"deathcamps" and reported no such disappearances.

>>That is why the exhaust vents are
>>located at the bottom and not the top.  For a gas chamber, they are
>>reversed.  

>Not if the HCN is introduced from the top and then filters downward.

HCN is lighter than air.  Therefore exhaust vents are necessary at the
top for a gas chamber.  However, the vent configuration perfectly fits
the proper one for a bomb shelter.  Kind of a coincidence I guess.

Brian Smith
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lordkano!@ghplus.infi.net (Lord Kano) wrote:

>> Hitler was a Nordic with blue eyes.  It is YOU who is the brown little
>> troll, "Gandhi."   

>Hitler was half Jewish, and short.  Not exactly Nordic.

Please post your proof that Hitler was "half-Jewish".
 
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dstowers@wolfenet.com (Drew Stowers) wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>The target audience for Mrs. Finsten's argument -- White nationists --
>>will never be convinced one iota by it.   The idea that Whites cannot
>>separate themselves because they can't decide "who's White" is simply
>>a straw man.   In a close case, It is as easy as a group of people
>>deciding "yes" or "no"  -- erring toward exclusion.

>That isn't what bothers me Brian.  What bothers me is who comes up and
>enforces the definition of 'White'.  Give it to me and I could prove
>everyone in the National Alliance is non-white.  

>An example, you may not be 1/16th non-white.  But was anyone of those
>16 other people 1/16th non-white.  If they were, then they are
>non-white.  Which busts you out as being 1/16th non-white.

Even if the "purest" White were 1/16th White, White nationalists still
would separate themselves to preserve whatever is left of Whiteness.
That is the goal:  to halt further amalgamation and preserve "what is
left".  

Brian Smith
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josephcl  wrote:

>You bastards can wallow in your own filth if you want, but this is not
>"your own country" to do with as you please.  Though it might be nice if
>we could keep you out for good, it would be an infringement of your right
>to free speech and the first amendment right to make an ass of oneself.

Actually, Whites are forced to accept the filth of this society, which
destroys their organic communities, their culture, subjects them to
rampant and growing non-White crime, White-hating and miscegenation
propaganda, invasions of non-Whites, and an ever increasing welfare
burden.

Whites they need their own nation to be healthy and progressive, and
their future and existence secure.  

Brian Smith
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no.ads@in.my.mailbox (Billy Kennedy) wrote:

>jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:
>>In article <5684el$7gu@is05.micron.net>,
>>   sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote more big lies. But no one is buying, 
>>because the evidence of the holocaust is so compelling.
>>     Love, Jim Walsh

>The prospect of people denying the holocaust is why George Patton had his troops
>and the people of Germany view the death camps, he foresaw the idiots claiming
>it didn't happen so made sure there were millions of witnesses....

Actually the "deathcamps" were cordoned off by the Soviets, preventing
anyone from taking pictures or investigating the charges.

>Do these people claim that Patton, Montgomery, Ike, and a few million soldiers
>just made it all up ???

>Perhaps we should have nuked Berlin just as a reminder....

Far more people died in the Allied bombing of Dresden and Hamburg than
Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined.   Dresden had no strategic
significance whatsoever and was done at the end of the war simply to
kill as many German women, children, and injured as possible.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"The name's Jim.  As long as the people killed are White -- then
that's OK!!"



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jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:

>In article <565c67$ano@is05.micron.net>,
>   sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:
>::I suppose Ron has so many brain cells that he need not conclude the
>::result of the negative White birthrate.

>In order for there to be a "white" birthrate, there must be a biological or 
>otherwise scientific definition of the "white" race. I have repeatedly asked 
>you for one. You have repeatedly ignored me, which is not a surprise, because 
>you know as well as I do that no such definition exists. The "white" race is a 
>figment of your inflamed imagination.

Yeah.  There's no difference between a Chinaman and an African pygmy.
And there is no difference between a greyhound and a poodle.   

Sure, Jim.

Brian Smith
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Dana Booth  wrote:

>On Sat, 16 Nov 1996 fresh@panix.com wrote:

>>I hate you, you fuckstick.  You Nazis who hide behind the Bill of

>Interesting... I thought that 'hate' just wasn't in vogue, or politically
>correct. Hate speech is apparently condoned by the 'in crowd', as long as
>it's voiced in the direction of so-called 'fringe groups'?

Hate is "OK" as long as it's directed at White people.   

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"dan"  wrote:

>Brian Smith  wrote in article
><56gp58$1vh@is05.micron.net>...
>> fresh@panix.com wrote:
>> 
>> >Rabin said of him, "Righteous Judaism spits you out."   Only that very
>> >reactionary fringe of Israeli society (which, btw, gets the most
>> >press--further proof of no Zionist conspiracy) supports what Goldstein
>> >did.  He is a murderer, and if there is a Hell, he'll burn in it.
>> 
>> Where are the documentaries on "Jewish hatred" done by the media?
>> None of course.
>> 
>> Brian Smith
>> www.natall.com
> 
>In Israel the press blamed like hell couple of weeks at Goldstein and at
>bustards like him after what he did.Of cause,I don't suppose you'll believe
>me.It seems the only sourse for you is "Mein Kumpf".   

No Jewish group is -never- mentioned when "hate" is brought up:  only
Whites.  Is it that Jews are so perfect and righteous that they never
"hate"?  If you believe that, then I have a webpage on the many
Palestinian victims of Israeli "love" which you really should see.
Just don't view it if you have a weak stomach.

http://www.flinet.com/~politics/intifada/if-ind.htm

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



From sbrian@micron.net Tue Nov 19 07:20:49 PST 1996
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jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:

>In article <563811$aho@is05.micron.net>,
>   sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:
>::>: In many places, such as Finland, the White birthrate is actually
>::>: NEGATIVE.

>This is false. As the Economist said in its latest issue, "The only big 
>breeders in the EU these days are the Scandanavians. Birth rates in Sweden, 
>Finland and Denmark have all gone up in the last 19 years".
>^^^^^^^ [emphasis added]

I have read in a few places the birthrate of Finns is negative.  

But even the Scandinavian countries' birthrates are no match for the
non-Whites outbreeding them.  And notice, the "only big breeders" in
the EU are Scandinavians.  The rest of Europe's birthrate is quite low
in comparison to the non-Whites which are flooding into all European
nations. 

Brian Smith
www.natall.com





From sbrian@micron.net Tue Nov 19 07:20:50 PST 1996
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kpf8q@Virginia.EDU (Kari Podolsky Footland) wrote:

>I must say that the message about the Holocaust
>being a sham is probably the most uninformed, pathetic statement I
>have ever heard.  I just want to assert at the beginning (so
>you actually listen to what I have to say because you are such
>a racist) that I am Christian.  However, MANY members of my
>family were killed during the Holocaust.  I charge you to
>explain to my grandparents what happened to their aunts,
>uncles, cousins, etc.  Sorry, they didn't just disappear.  They
>were brutually tortured.  I have met Holocaust survivers who
>told me about how they literally were down to skin and bones
>when they were released.  The man (who had weighed about 190
>lbs) weighed 90 lbs!  The woman weighed something like 70 lbs.

This doesn't prove extermination by gassing or any other kind.  He was
being obviously "kept" alive as the Germans could have easily shot
him, which they did not.  Everyone was starving at the end of the war
in Germany but this doesn't "prove" the Holocaust myth.

>Has your bigoted, racist, pathetic self ever been tortured?
>Have you ever weighed 90 lbs in adulthood?  I don't think so.
>You sicken me.  

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
http://www.codoh.com/
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
http://www.air-photo.com/
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



From sbrian@micron.net Tue Nov 19 07:20:51 PST 1996
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Bob Whitaker  wrote:

>Jim Walsh wrote:
>> 
>> In article <55u3v2$ggu@is05.micron.net>,
>>    sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:
>> ::What does the White Nationalist movement want?
>> ::
>> ::We want a separate White homeland to halt the ongoing eradication of
>> ::Whites by non-White engulfment and miscegenation.
>> 
>> This is fine with me. Buy an island and start your "White homeland". Until and
>> unless your desires are the desires of a clear majority of Americans (i.e.,
>> until Hell freezes over), you will not be able to achieve your goal in the
>> USA.
>> 
>> ::  We believe the
>> ::races are different and that the original races were molded by
>> ::evolutionary forces, which impacted differently on the races according
>> ::to geography and the consequent challenges each race faced. As a
>> ::result, the White race developed unique racial characteristics and
>> ::unique racial identity and the Black race its own as well.
>> 
>> Believe what you will, the facts are otherwise.
>> 
>> ::   White
>> ::nationalists value their race and do not wish its unique identity and
>> ::abilities to be destroyed, which will occur if the White race is mixed
>> ::with non-Whites.
>> 
>> So, don't marry a "non-White". It's none of my business whom you "mix" with.
>> It is also none of your business whom I and the rest of the world "mix" with.
>> 
>>      Love, Jim Walsh
>> 
>> [P.S. I sometimes correct spelling and grammar in quoted material without intending to modify the meaning.]


>	Trying to say something ot a clone is like pushing toothpaste back into
>a tube.
>	Each clone comes up with this "well, set up  your own country",
>statement.  But the fact is that the entire PC proggram is for racial
>balance in ALL white majority countries, and ONLY in white majority
>countries.  They would not tolerate any whites being allowed to live to
>themselves, anywhere on earth,a nd they have said so repeatedly.
>	So this challenge for us to set up our own country is bullshit.  They 
>would crush us fast.
>	And for reason.  We all know what happens when whites are temporarily
>allowed to set up their own communities.  The Politically Correct get
>racial balance and busing, and out go the whites.  So the PC then use
>their money to set up "low-cost"(black) housing in the escapee
>communities, and busing again.   And the cycle repeats.
>	The one thing Politically Correct people can never subject their
>policies to is the criterion of whether they actually WORK or not.  They
>also cannot allow it to matter whether any of hteir victims WANT what
>they are pushing or not.  Those tests always fail.
>	As a result, the invariable result of Poltiically Correct policy, from
>busing to the Berlin Wall, is always a major effort at blocking any
>escape attempt.
>	I'll keep repeating this until all you clones hear it.

Non-Whites try to flood into White countries wherever they are found,
because White nations have higher standards of living and typically
more advanced societies, with more opportunities.   However, Whites
are not knocking down the door to emigrate to Bang-your-dish
(Bangledesh), India, or Uganda.  Whites need to learn they have no
obligation to anyone but themselves, and that liberal guilt is fatal
to their existence and future on this planet.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>[...]

>>That's right.  Let's just "give it up" and let the White race go down
>>the sewage drainpipe of history.  No big loss, right?

>Brian, you and your ilk, including the NSDAP cretins you admire so
>much, *are* the sewage drainpipe of history.  No loss.

If only I were to denounce Jews being persecuted at the Fake
Holocaust, Mrs. "Finsten" would then be awash in bathos and maudlin
moralizing to "condemn the genocide!"   But since it is "only Whites"
being destroyed, then of course that's "OK" and "no big loss" with
Mrs. Finsten.   

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>[...]

>> Everyone was starving at the end of the war
>>in Germany but this doesn't "prove" the Holocaust myth.

>Brian, Brian, Brian.  Photographs indicate that, at the time
>the camps were liberated, prison guards were well-fed and
>nowhere near starvation.  The great hunger did not set in
>until after the war ended.  In the labour camps, though,
>Jews and other inmates were provided with starvation rations,
>rations so low in caloric and nutritional value that their
>eventual death was a virtual certainty.  Read some history.

How interesting.  The Red Cross inspectors, investigating these
claims, found completely the opposite during 1944.  Conditions didn't
deteriorate fully until the Allies bombed the German supply lines.
What do you expect.  Interesting you brought it up because lIberation
photos of Dachau show healthy and even cheerful inmates.  Something's
indeed fishy with the Tale.

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Brian Smith
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jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:

>In article <56gmoq$1vh@is05.micron.net>,
>   sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:
>::jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:
>::
>::>In article <5639gt$aho@is05.micron.net>,
>::>   sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:
>::
>::>::However, those of us who value our White race are determined to secure
>::>::its survival by any means necessary.
>::
>::>Is that a threat to institute another genocide, Brian...?

>::"Another" genocide?  The only genocide being instituted is the
>::genocide of Whites.  The Holocaust is a hoax as you should know
>::"loving" (sic) Jim.

>I guess this is another one of my questions you can't answer. OK, don't 
>bother. The only question I really want you to answer is a biologically 
>defensible defintion of the "white" race.

You never "disproved" the White race's existence, Jim.   I don't have
to convince you of the White race's existence.  You "don't count" Jim.
In other words, you're just another braindead liberal.  You can keep
on disbelieving in the White race.  It matters not to me, "loving"
(gag) Jim.

However, for those interested, an excellent book on the White race is
Dr. Hans Gunther's _Racial Realities in Europe_.  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:

>In article <56gmoq$1vh@is05.micron.net>,
>   sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:
>::jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:
>::
>::>In article <5639gt$aho@is05.micron.net>,
>::>   sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:
>::
>::>::However, those of us who value our White race are determined to secure
>::>::its survival by any means necessary.
>::
>::>Is that a threat to institute another genocide, Brian...?

>::"Another" genocide?  The only genocide being instituted is the
>::genocide of Whites.  The Holocaust is a hoax as you should know
>::"loving" (sic) Jim.

>I guess this is another one of my questions you can't answer. OK, don't 
>bother. The only question I really want you to answer is a biologically 
>defensible defintion of the "white" race.

You never "disproved" the White race's existence, Jim.   I don't have
to convince you of the White race's existence.  You "don't count" Jim.
In other words, you're just another braindead liberal.  You can keep
on disbelieving in the White race.  It matters not to me, "loving"
(gag) Jim.

However, for those interested, an excellent book on the White race is
Dr. Hans Gunther's _Racial Realities in Europe_.  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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twkung  wrote:

>> Ned Kelly Lives!!!!!!    

>Perhaps he does, but none too morally and to little (publically) useful
>purpose. The U.S. will become a 3rd-world country about the time Ned
>Kelly acquires a functional brain. Anyone able to read statistics can
>plainly see that by all measures of development, America remains the
>land of plenty and promise. 

Actually, the standard of living in America has been steadily dropping
by at least 7% every year for the last 20 years, under "diversity".
The more "diversity" the more poverty, crime, filth, disease, and
social welfare burden.  And that's OK with you right, "twkung"?

>The newest waves of immigrants will find
>their niches in the American social fabric just as all our ancestors
>did. And with a little luck, they will be a great deal more tolerant of
>those who follow them than imbeciles like Ned Kelly are of them.

I wonder how tolerant they are in the country of your ancestors
"twkung"?   You think the Chinese for example  "tolerate" unlimited
numbers of third-world trash to float into the social welfare system
of -their- country?

Brian Smith
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From sbrian@micron.net Tue Nov 19 07:45:52 PST 1996
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jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:

>In article <56gopl$1vh@is05.micron.net>,
>   sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:
>::Actually, the standard of living in America has been steadily dropping
>::by at least 7% every year for the last 20 years.....

>Absolutely nonsense. There is no possible way that you could defend this 
>absolutely bizarre conclusion. So, I guess it is another example of the Big 
>Lie technique.

Our standard of living has been dropping consistently every decade.
You did not know this, Jim?   Jim, this may come as a surprise to your
liberal head, but diversity is quite expensive.   Affirmative action,
for example, costs well over 100 million every year.  Then there is
the huge opportunity cost of Affirmative Action.   There is also the
downward equalization effect on wages caused by Affirmative Action
because AA artificially inflates the wage of a lesser qualified
candidate, which results in the lower common denominator value per
worker setting the wage standard.   This downward response of the
market to AA is quite interesting and is explored quite lucidly at:  

http://www.natall.com/FREESP/FREE961D.HTML 

That is Part 1.  Fascinating.

Then there is the expense incurred to and caused by Whites fleeing
several cities rather than live in deteriorating, third-world
pestholes.  Then there is the massive "diversity" crime:  non-White
gang violence and the ubiquitous Black crime.  The costs of Black
crime alone is immense and include time lost away from work due to
injury, psychological trauma, rape trauma, car alarms, house alarms,
increasing insurance rates, and several concommitant expenses as well,
plus more subtle and intangible but significant losses such as
inability to walk the street safely and a constant feeling of danger
in many areas

Then there is the huge burden on the medical system from diversity, of
giving free medical and prenatal care to floods of immigrants and the
medical costs of AIDS and various things like free medical care for
inner city gunshot victims and the like -- all of which is passed on
to the employed tax-paying citizens which at this time are still
mostly Whites.   Several social programs, such as social security, are
already slated to go bankrupt by the year 2000.  And the burden to our
economy is simply going to continue because the non-White is exploding
while the White birthrate is at best static.  Our economy is going to
continue to decline because "diversity" is a losing proposition.  

Brian Smith
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jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:

>In article <56gofd$1vh@is05.micron.net>,
>   sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>::Sure.  Instead you want Black neanderthals bussed into your
>::neighborhood to rob and attack Whites on a continual basis.  Your
>::chances of being savagely raped or killed by a Black is 1000 times
>::higher than being attacked by a "White racist."

>Well, I don't know about that. Although I have lived in, amoung and with 
>people that you would call "blacks" for long periods of time, the only time 
>(since elementary school) that I have been physically attacked, it was by a 
>self-proclaimed "white" nationalist. Seems that I found out his darkest 
>secret. Like Hitler, his grandmother was a Jew. He was so furious he couldn't 
>help himself and he attacked me right in front of the press and the police. 
>Poor guy. Spent 10 days in jail.

Since you claim you live with Blacks, are you sure one of the
"brothers" didn't come up behind you when you weren't looking and wop
you on your head, rendering you incapable of rationality?  

Do yourself a favor, Jim, and don't go walking down the streets in the
projects at night.   The life you save could be your own.

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>You just keep repeating the same assertions, no evidence, same rant.
>Booooorrrrrring, Brianbot, real boring.

It's all I can do to keep from falling asleep reading your
broken-record posts, Mrs. Finsten.

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:
 
>>>>Yes, and they were accepted as uncredible at the Nuremberg trials.  No
>>>>one was convicted for electrocuting or steaming anybody.  What 
>>>>proportion of the eyewitness testimonies refer to electrocution and
>>>>steaming?
>
>>>The point is the unreliability of contradictory eyewitness testimony
>>>without physical evidence.
>
>>No, the point is that whenever there is more than one witness to an event,
>>there are always some inconsistencies.  But eyewitness testimony is still
>>a mainstay of every western judicial system.  While there are some
>>inconsistencies in some Holocaust testimonies, and some have been
>>discarded entirely, the *majority* are consistent with other testimonies
>>and other lines of evidence.
>>
>>>>>Why do aerial photos demonstrate there are were no
>>>>>vents over the gas chambers?   
>
>>>>They don't, if you are referring to the induction vents on the roofs
>>>>of the Kremas built later on.
>
>>>The photos were taken at a time when the "gas chambers" were said to
>>>be fully operational.
>
>>You clearly do not know what you are talking about. Which airphoto?
>>Or airphotos?  

ALL of them are in the time frame of fully operational.  See
caveman.html (on the website) for some dates of full operation
covering this time frame.  

>>They normally are referred to by the date upon which they
>>were shot.  I've got the Brugioni and Poirier report as well Ball's book
>>sitting right here, but if you don't tell me which specific photo(s)
>>you are referring to, I don't know what to look at.  

You obviously either do not have Ball or have not read Ball as he
tells you what to look for.  

>>Not only that, Bri,
>>you've got to tell me which Kremas you're talking about.  Are you 
>>referring to II and III, IV and V?  All four? 

It is strange to discover someone at this late date claiming that
the miraculously fast cremation rates could be accomplished with less
than all four in operation.  

You rather appear to be hiding behind innumerable questions than to
be taking a position of your own.  It leade me to suspect you have no
position of your own.  

>>>>>Why was Anne Frank shipped all Europe
>>>>>if she was sickly and we are told they automatically exterminated the
>>>>>young and the old?  
>
>>>>Funny thing, that.  People who were sickly tried desperately to hide
>>>>it to avoid being killed.  She didn't fall mortally ill until after
>>>>she had been evacuated from Auschwitz.
>
>>>But she was young.  They said the Germans automatically killed the
>>>old, young, and sick immediately upon arrival.
>
>>She wasn't *young* when she was taken to Auschwitz. She wasn't
>>pre-adolescent.

She was fourteen when sent in 1944.  The usual claim is that all
younger children were executed immediately.  That was 52 years ago.
All Auschwitz inmates were at least 14 years old in 1944.  That means
there are no camp survivors under age 66, in 1996.  

Elie Wiesel was 12 and in the Auschwitz infirmary in 1944 when he
and his father CHOSE to evacuate with the Germans rather than be
liberated by the Russians.   

>>>>>Why was Anne Frank's father found recuperating in
>>>>>a German hospital at the end of the war if the intent was
>>>>>extermination?  
>
>>>>I can't answer that one.
>
>>>Well I can't either, you know.
>
>>Was he in the German hospital *after* the camp was liberated?  Was he
>>hospitalised after the Germans fled in the face of the advancing
>>Soviet troops?

He was in the Bergen camp hospital AT THE TIME OF liberation having
been put there by the Germans.  

>>>>>Why do the documents show that thousands of old and
>>>>>sick were not "exterminated"?  
>> 
>>>>Which documents are those?  And what makes you think that the 
>>>>population of Europe's "old and sick" Jews numbered only in the
>>>>thousands?
>> 
>>>The evidence shows that, in fact, a very high percentage of the Jewish
>>>inmates at Auschwitz were not able to work, and were nevertheless not
>>>killed.  An internal German telex message dated Sept. 4, 1943, from
>>>the chief of the Labor Allocation department of the SS Economic and
>>>Administrative Main Office (WVHA), reported that of 25,000 Jewish
>>>inmates in Auschwitz, only 3,581 were able to work, and that all of
>>>the remaining Jewish inmates -- some 21,500, or about 86 percent --
>>>were unable to work.
>
>>In the midst of a major outbreak of typhus.  What a surprise. 

You appear to have a conclusion that facts will not shake.  They
could not work for whatever the reason AND they were not killed.
Typhus is a red herring.  

>>>(Archives of the Jewish Historical Institute of Warsaw, German
>>>document No. 128, in: H.)
>
>>>>>Why do the samples of HCN from the
>>>>>so-called "gas chambers" only support the thesis the gas chambers were
>>>>>used as to delouse?  
>
>>>>They don't.  The levels of HCN from the gas chambers are far lower
>>>>than those in the delousing chambers because it takes a much higher
>>>>concentration of HCN to kill lice than humans, and because the
>>>>gas chambers were ventilated quickly after the HCN was induced.
>
>>>But HCN was used in far greater quantities for gassing.   People were
>>>supposedly gassed up to every 15 minutes.  Delousing was done only
>>>periodically.
>
>>Well I don't know that this is actually true.  But what determines the
>>quantity absorbed into the walls of a building is *not* the quantity
>>initially used, but the duration of exposure, since it takes time for
>>the stuff to penetrate the structure.  If it is quickly ventilated
>>out of the air, not much gets into the walls.

It is in fact a product of both quantity and duration, although it
is agreed that Holocausters typically insist upon either one or the
other depending upon the particular findings.  

>>>>>Why was there a new gas chamber built underground
>>>>>at great expense and for no apparent reason?  
>
>>>>For no apparent reason?  You are a fool.  The reason is
>>>>very apparent.  The Nazis were preparing to deal with the Jews
>>>>of southeastern Europe, Bri.  They were getting ready for the
>>>>massive importation of people from Hungary and Greece.
>
>>>There was no need to do so, as a simple barn would have sufficed
>>>according to the theory.   No need to spend the extra for elaborate
>>>krema, and the added cost of putting it underground makes no sense.
>>>They were obviously to be used as bomb shelters as the Germans
>>>claimed.
>
>>A nice, simple airtight barn?  As was found all across the Polish
>>countryside?  And conveniently located next to a couple of multiple-
>>muffle cremation ovens, too?  Right.

As the story in the Auschwitz FAQ at Nizkor holds, after Zyklon B
was "discovered" a local "farmstead" was used.  The original
"experiment was supposed to have been done in a cell block without any
special consideration for being air-tight.  And yes there were farms
all around the Auschwitz-Birkenau facility.

So it appears there is no requirement for air tight.  You want a 
convenient location?  How about any of the hundreds of barracks
buildings, including the ones (since you have Ball) that were closer
to the Kremas than they were long.  

>>Why did the "bomb shelters" have glass windows on those airtight doors?  
>And why did the glass windows have metal grills to prevent them
>>from breaking on the *inside*?
>
>>Why did the architectural plans for the "bomb shelters" illustrate where
>>dummy shower heads were to be placed?

The only claim of "dummy showerheads" is related to Dachau where it
is now agreed there never was a gas chamber.  There are no claims of
dummy showerheads at A-B.  And it is truly amazing the people would
expect to find copper pipe after the war.  By that standard every
abandoned building in the US was at one time a gas chamber.  

>>[...]
>
>>>>>Why were Jews shipped hundreds of miles at
>>>>>needless expense when they could have been shot on site instantly?
>
>>>>Whoever said the Nazis were rational?  
>
>>>The Holocaust reliance on Nazi "irrationality" when Germans were
>>>typically very efficient doesn't bode well for the theory.
>
>>Then explain to me the "efficiency" of allocating major railway
>>resources to transporting millions of young children and elderly
>>people to "labour camps" in Poland.  Explain to me how doing this
>>was more efficient that leaving the old folks to fend for themselves
>>and the kids back wherever.  How could it be "efficient" to transport,
>>feed and house all those folks who were too old or too young to work?

I am afraid that will be up to you to explain.  According to the
current version of the story the Einsatzgruppen managed to exterminate
around ten million (four million Jews, six million others) people.  It
is up to you to explain these elaborate facilities to get a mere one
million more.  

>>>>But I'll turn this
>>>>question back on you.  Why were hundreds of thousands, if not 
>>>>millions, of Jewish children and elderly people transported hundreds
>>>>of miles into Poland if the purpose was labour and only labour?
>>>>Why would the Nazis take on the expense of the transportation,
>>>>housing and feeding of all those "useless mouths" when it would be
>>>>far more "logical" to leave the geezers and the kids behind to fend
>>>>for themselves?  
>
>>>The purpose was ultimately ship -all- of them out after the war or at
>>>first opportunity, was being done before the war and then it was
>>>interrupted by the war.
>
>>No, "shipping them out" was not "interrupted" by the war, Bri.  The 
>>Nazis closed the borders to emigration after October 1941.  

Actually the Zionist movement was still getting Jews (and no one
else) out of Germany up until it became unsafe to do so.  Of course
that cost money and they preferred to spend their money buying land in
Palestine rather than saving Jews.  (cavemen.htm again)

>>Despite
>>the protestations that all they wished to do was rid European soil
>>of a Jewish presence by moving them elsewhere, this policy change
>>indicates clearly that their motives were otherwise.  The war had
>>been ongoing for more than two years, after all.  Why keep all those
>>useless Jewish mouths around to supervise, clothe, house and feed
>>in concentration camps?  

What, useless?  They were work camps, remember?

>>Why seal the borders so that it was impossible
>>for them to leave if the desire was merely to have them do so?  

  It is unclear which borders you consider to have been sealed.  The
only "sealing" I can see was done by oceans, mountains and the eastern
front.          

>>[...]
>
>>>>Well, I've only been reading alt.revisionism for about 10 months,
>>>>but I have yet to see one who has bettered him in an argument.
>
>>>I sometimes watch Matt Giwer on alt.revisionism and I have yet to see
>>>-him- bettered.
>
>>Well that settles it.  You get an F for reading comprehension.
>>Giwer is a demented blathering foul-mouthed antisemitic troll.  

He is a highly intelligent man (IQ 163) with a physics degree (not
easy!) and has retired early.  He is called antisemitic per the
standard program of Holocausters to villify those who dare to doubt
their view of history.  
  
>>>>>Gas tight doors were used for bomb shelters, which the so-called "gas
>>>>>chamber" cellars were designed as.  
>
>>>>Why did the bomb shelters have shower heads but no plumbing?
>>>>Why were the bomb shelters in the same complexes as the crematoria?
>>>>Why were so many crematoria needed in a "work camp"?
>>>
>>>Copper plumbing is often stolen from abandoned buildings.  
>
>>No no no.  There *never* *was* plumbing for the shower heads.
>>It isn't on the architectural plans.  The shower heads were dummy
>>shower heads.

 Why do you keep bringing Dachau into this?  

>>>Why create
>>>a shower-room to fool people when they is no need to?  
>
>>You think there was no need to "fool people"?  Oh brother.  To prevent
>>uncontrolled panic before they had been locked into the chamber?

Who was there to fool?  According to the current version of the
story, the gassing (and steaming and electrocution and suffocation)
was known all through the camps, all over eastern Europe, and was the
constant subject of shortwave broadcasts starting in 1942.  It was
clearly impossible for them not to know what was going on.  

>>>How could
>>>inmates not notice people disappear and not also fight back or report
>>>these rumours to the outside?  Several partisans escaped the
>>>"deathcamps" and reported no such disappearances.
>
>>Ah, not true.  Rudolf Vrba 

This Rudolph Vrba?

Rudolph Vrba 

1/24/85 

Holocaust heavyweight Rudolf Vrba, under cross-examination in a
Canadian courtroom, states under oath that 150,000 French Jews were
gassed at Auschwitz, in spite of the fact that the entire number of
Jews deported from France were only 75,721. Vrba claims he arrived at
his count "scientifically" by having listened to the language spoken
by the inmates at Auschwitz and examining their luggage (!). The
author of "I Cannot Forgive" next confessed that his book was "an
artistic picture ... not a document for a court," in spite of the fact
that Vrba's testimony was crucial to both the War Refugee Board and
the Auschwitz Trials in West Germany. Vrba further admitted that his
written and pictorial descriptions of Auschwitz crematoria were a
result of guessing, based on "what I heard it might look like." 

Oops! 

>>and Alfred Wetzler escaped in April 1944
>>and reported just such "disappearances".  People did fight back,
>>.  Haven't you heard about the uprising in late 1944 that resulted
>>in the destruction of Krema IV? I think it was IV...  With gunpowder
>>smuggled out of the munitions factory in a work camp, the sonderkommando
>>blew it up.  

Since there are no buildings associated with either K IV or V (You
do have Ball do you not?) it is unclear what the point of blowing up
IV would have.  In any event, you will provide a reference for this
event some day will you not?  

>>>>>That is why the exhaust vents are
>>>>>located at the bottom and not the top.  For a gas chamber, they are
>>>>>reversed.  
>
>>>>Not if the HCN is introduced from the top and then filters downward.
>
>>>HCN is lighter than air.  Therefore exhaust vents are necessary at the
>>>top for a gas chamber.  
>
>>So you draw it out before it has a chance to permeate the room?  Sure.
>
>>>However, the vent configuration perfectly fits
>>>the proper one for a bomb shelter.  Kind of a coincidence I guess.
>
>>What is the molecular weight of HCN, and of air?

It is unclear that you would understand the answers.  BUT since you
have already determined them yourself and thus convinced yourself on
the matter, why not simply post your own results?  Hint, air does not
have a molecular weight.  Take all the screens you need.  

At the very least, there are problems with the Holocaust which are
entitled to be  known by the public, but are deliberately concealed
>from  the public.  Needless to say, the Holocaust is anything but
airtight as you first indicated.

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
http://www.codoh.com/
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
http://www.air-photo.com/
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>Your bot-like argument that Whites can't decide for themselves who
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>This is a hoot!

>>they want in their own White state is spurious.  White nationalists
>>will decide from their own discretion based on appearance and
>                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^          ^^^^^^^^^^

>Yeah, which means that everyone who isn't a member of your little
>club is automatically suspect.  I'm sure you'll be received with
>open arms, Brianbot.

That club includes Whites who wish for a White homeland -- hardly the
club attractive to non-Whites or silly liberals like yourself.  It
matter not if you receive us with "open arms."

>Appearance, unspecified, of course.

>>guidelines -or- genetic analysis in a close call -- always erring on
>                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>Undoable.  And if you don't know that, you should.

So you are saying that non-Whites or even questionables won't stick
out like a sore thumb in a White state?   That they can't be
identified?

It will work fine:   as easy as applying for membership in the NA.
Not a problem at all.   The amount of questionables in the NA is
negligible.  

That just burns you up, doesn't it?  You would just LOVE think that
Whites are incapable of deciding whom they want to be in their state!
(laugh)

>>the side of exclusion.   Most questionables will not be attracted to a
>                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>And, if already there, will be thrown out or, What, Brianbot, if 
>they refuse to leave?

That is another issue.  The point is the task of selection is the
easiest part of it.   

>>White state, thus solving the problem in large part, leaving
>>relatively few decisions to be made.   

>Sure, Brianbot.

Sure "broken-record" Finsten.

Brian Smith
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smaceach@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Scott MacEachern) wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>As if a secondary carrier of the material could refutes its existence.

>Problem isn't refutation. Problem is that you appear to be imbibing
>your world-view in full from a set of Nazi Web pages. For all of your
>proclamations to Laura about research, you've never shown the remotest
>sign of an ability to actually do any investigation on your own. You
>just keep regurgitating the same predigested pap, kind of like a cow
>chewing its cud.

Certainly no more than a liberal academic with his equality dogma.

>>I'm not surprised all you can you do is babble about it rather than
>>refute the venom of the un-edited Talmud which Jews themselves are
>>embarrassed by.

>Ummm, looked at a Bible lately, Brian ol' boy? Check the Old
>Testament, some time. Then take into account the fact that the Talmud
>is a set of _commentaries_ on the Scriptures. Now, Brian, look up a
>set of _Christian_ religious writings on the Jews from, say, the late
>Roman Empire or the medieval period or the Counter-Reformation. Y'see
>all the hatefulness directed toward Jews in those commentaries? That's
>the context in which the Talmud was written.

So in other words, the Jew Shakak and other Jewish Talmudic scholars
aware of the obvious and virulent anti-goyim venom and hatred of the
original Talmud are lying or are ignorant that it was all really just
a White conspiracy to frame Jews.

Right.

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>So the U.S. STARVED millions of Germans to death and handed over
>>millions of anti-communist Europeans to the Soviet Union for sure
>>torture and death.  The U.S. also bombed German civilian cities with
>>no strategic value whatsoever, just to deliberately incinerate as many
>>unarmed civilians, women and children as possible.  

>By denier standards of evidence, if you can call them that, it is
>impossible to prove that Dresden was fire-bombed.

This is an old Holocauster ruse.  

The difference between Dresden and the Holomyth is that the former has
physical evidence while the latter does not.  There are documents and
reports from the Bomber Command, as well as bombed out buildings
incinerated, as well as records of the buildings being destroyed and
rebuilt.  Likewise there is no anomalies in with the dropping of bombs
on Dresden, as it was a typical Allied bombing run similar to Hamburg
and other which was done several times.   

However, there is no German document ordering extermination by
gassing, and the chemical traces of HCN in the "gas chambers" only
supports a finding of fumigation.  There are missing the things would
would have been found had it occurred.  In other words, there is no
physical evidence.   The myth is also higher irregular as it asks us
to believes several anomalous and unsupported events, including tons
or ashes that "disappeared", gas chambers without "fans" and to
believe that Nazis acted completely illogical in the carrying out of
their supposed goal of extermination.  After examining the
counter-evidence to the Holocaust, I don't buy it.

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
http://www.codoh.com/
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
http://www.air-photo.com/
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html

Brian Smith
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[more liberal crap]

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pgissource@aol.com wrote:

>In a few words, FUCK YOU and your anti-veteran pro-Soviet guilt attitudes
>and those of all of your (inter) NATIONAL (commie) ALLIANCE friends that
>think we should have sympathy to the Ruskies to the detriment of those
>that served the United States of America!

(Hee hee) the Wizard of Communism loses it after being confronted with
his own Marxist-egalitarianism (snicker).

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smaceach@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Scott MacEachern) wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>I think it's safe to ignore your opinions about archaeology as well.

>Sorry, Brian ol' boy, it really isn't -- although you may well wish
>that it was. BTW, I presume that you've given up on our little
>exchanges about African history and race-and-intelligence as well; the
>silence from you have been deafening for the last couple of days.
>Back-pedalling with one foot in your  mouth must tire you out really
>quickly.

>Scott

To continue a "debate" with a liberal so deceived or dishonest as to
assert with a straight fact that Negroes are equal to Whites
militarily?   That there is no difference in genetic intelligence
between an African and an Asian?  As you make money off liberal
shamanism, slippery Scott, I hardly envision you giving up your
liberal snake-oil for truth at the expense of your creative, albeit
deluded, livelihood -- even if it does continue to make you out to be
a laughable fool.

They were amusing threads to say the least.

Brian Smith
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smaceach@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Scott MacEachern) wrote:


>vincent@dreamon.com (The Bok) wrote:

>>  What a shame it is, that an intelligent man like yourself would offer
>> so little to our conversations. 

>As I said recently to Brian Smith, you should be grateful for all of
>the tuition that you're saving. And if I had any reasonable
>expectation that any data that I was going to offer -- on African
>history, world prehistory, population variation, whatever -- was ever
>going to be examined seriously by anyone from NA, _I_ might take the
>whole thing a bit more seriously. But you won't, so I don't. I just
>don't want anyone standing outside looking in at these exchanges to
>think that your compatriots are some sort of fearless strivers after
>truth. Because you're not.

Your "schooling" was simply another unconvincing rendition of
"Egalitarian Theology 101" with more laughable "Black History"
appended thereto.  In short:  the same old unscrupulous liberal trash
one can find in any politically correct textbook nowadays.  Certainly
nothing I haven't already heard from liberal shamans in the past.    

Brian Smith
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pkasieck@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Philip Kasiecki) wrote:

>: Today, 99% of interracial rapes are committed by Black men against
>: White women.

>    That figure is impossible to believe; cite the source, please.

It's impossible for YOU to believe only because you've been weaned on
egalitarian hokum your entire life.

Wake up and get real.  Start with the FBI Uniform Crime Report.

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"j.p."  wrote:


>Brian Smith wrote:
>> 
>> 99.9% of interracial rapes are Black on Whites.  
>> 
>> Brian Smith
>> www.natall.com
>---
>post the source for your statistics.  I am unable to locate any Bureau
>of Justice Statistics document which makes any mention of the race of
>the perpetrator, let alone puts a 99.9% number on it.
>Even in the Institute for Historical Review, an article by Charles
>Stanwood refers to the same situation this way:
> "Analysis of recent crime statistics reveals that black men rape white
>women 30 times more often than white men rape black women."
>So let's see. from the BJS, we get
>*Women annually reported about 500,000 rapes and
>sexual assaults to interviewers.  Friends or acquaintances of the
>victims committed over half of these rapes or sexual assaults. 
>Strangers were responsible for about 1 in 5.*
>Mathematically, white-on-black being 'wob', and vice versa 'bow', 
>and unk% being unknown% of how many rapes are interracial
>30(wob)=bow,
>(unk%)(.999(bow) + .01(wob))+(100-unk%)('wow' or 'bob')=500,000 total
>rapes
>so cite your source, fill in the blanks and show a solution for these
>numbers which will satisfy both the 99.9% and the 30 times as often
>figure you reference.  Or is it possible that one racist is using a
>different fictional statistic sheet from another? Actually, that I
>don't care about...but I am curious where you get this 99.9% number.
>jesse prentiss

FBI Uniform Crime Report.   In 1988, for example, Blacks raped Whites
in 9,405 cases while Whites raped Blacks only 10 times.   (thus 99.9%)

Of 629,000 interracial attacks, 90% were Black on White.  

Yet the Jewish media continually portrays racial violence as "White on
Black", commonly portraying a "White hater" victimizing a minority.
The Jewish ADL regularly bewails the "dangerous rise of White
hate-crimes."    Yet when members of an all-Black group in Miami
deliberately sought out and killed Whites simply because they were
White, those murders were not reported by the media or prosecuted as
"hate crimes."  

Both from the FBI Uniform Crime Report, and common experience, I think
we know who's lying to us.

Brian Smith
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Graeme Alan Woracker  wrote:

>Anyone else agree?

Outstanding argument.  Did you think that one up all by yourself?

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rarpol@aol.com wrote:

>In article <846991205$8369@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>We got one guy, Wizard, who is a Marxist yet keeps claiming White
>>nationalism is communism.

>Hitler, Stalin.  Not much difference was there?

Actually far more than between FDR and Stalin.  Or between Lenin and
Arlin. 

>>Then we got Randy Ragsdale who says Communism ISN'T Jewish.

>It isn't you blockheads!   

Right.   So that's why Marx was Jewish, and first government had 350
out of 370 representatives were Jews.  And the top six administrators
of the gulag were Jewish.  And the Bolshevik party was half Jewish,
And every communist party in Europe was led by and disproportionately
filled with Jews.  And virtually every Soviet secret police chief was
Jewish.  And international Jewish publications claimed credit for
communism.  And the top 4 leaders of the Bolshevik party were Trotsky,
Zinoviev, Kamenev, and Lenin (3 Jews and a half-Jew married to a Jew).
And such Jewish dominance in communism existed even though they were a
small minority.  

Why, communism wasn't Jewish at ALL!

"...there is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself. In the
fact that so many Jews are  Bolsheviks. In the fact that the
ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with the finest ideals of
Judaism." (The Jewish Chronicle, April 4, 1918)

"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish
brains, of Jewish  dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning,
whose goal is to create a new order in the world. What was
performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish
brains, and because of Jewish  dissatisfaction and by Jewish
planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The
American Hebrew, September 10, 1920)

"Some call it Marxism  I call it Judaism." (The American
Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise,  May 5, 1935).

Tell me another one, Randy.

Brian Smith
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mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney) wrote:


>In message <847996420$22431@atype.com> - e142857@teleport.com (Walter Ulrich) w
>rites:
>:>
>:>
>:>>   Joseph Pothier  writes:
>:>>  Mary Heffernan wrote:
>:> 
>:>>  > Tonight's episode on Star Trek: Voyager was part 2 of a 2-parter episode
>:>  
>:>>  <>
>:>  
>:>>  > The scene was presented with the militia members being portrayed as
>:>>  > dumb, backward, wacky and gun-happy.
>:>  
>:>Sure, Hollyweird needs a constant pool of "enemies" and "villians"
>:>to pit its "heroes" against, but the historic bad guys: negroes, Jews,
>:>arabs, Germans, Japs, Mexicans all have formed organizations 
>:>which yell and threaten if a given movie portrays them in a nasty
>:>way....

>Hollywood depicting Jews as villians??? Give me a break. Please name 5 movies 
>that had obviously Jewish characters as bad guys.

>Of course, Germans are almost universally depicted as rotten by 
>Jew-controlled Hollywood. And don't bother complaining that Jews don't 
>control Hollywood, Marlon Brando, Michael Medved and Dolly Parton have all 
>recently confirmed that. (As if we needed it confirmed.)


>the average screen writer has about as much imagination
>:>as as a turnip....

>The average screen writer is usually Jewish, along with most producers, a 
>preponderance of movie company CEOs and directors.

>Yours truly,
>Ian McKinney
>    \|/
>     |

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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>Laura Finsten  wrote:

>Wow, this is definitely one of more my garbled offerings.  Brian's
>mind-numbing repetition of predigested antisemitic pap must have
>put me to sleep.    I'll try to get it better:

>It is too complex for his simple mind, Scott.  Brian is neither 
>interested in nor, it appears, capable of thinking about something
>as significant and interesting as the context in which the Talmud
>was written.  If he doesn't, one of his fellow minions will jerk
>his knees and say that antisemitism was rampant because the evil
>Joooooos  were using Christian babies' blood to make Passover 
>matzohs, and poisoning wells to give everyone bubonic plague.

Right.  As if the statement "goyim are dogs" or "the goyim are slaves
in animal form" are "contextual" statements.  I guess asking you to
read the Jewish scholar Shakak on the Talmud to challenge your
preconceived ignorance would be like asking a cat to take a bath
voluntarily.   I guess "evil Nazis" wrote the Talmud to frame the
Jews.

Brian Smith
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medintz@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (Mike S. Medintz) wrote:


>Whilst completely naked, Ian McKinney said unto us:

>>I'm glad to see that you also think more births in the Third-world is a bad 
>>thing. Hang in there Kaa, we'll make a racialist out of you yet.

>Still beats the shit out of another 3*10^7 kiddies here, environmentally
>speaking. It's all them 'supeereyor' nations that leave most of the mine 
>tailings and burn most of the oil.

Name a race which has establshed more organizations to preserve the
environment than Whites?  

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smaceach@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Scott MacEachern) wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>smaceach@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Scott MacEachern) wrote:

>>>(2) It was the _North Pole_. Good God, don't you even know the history
>>>of your own country??

>>This is excellent example of politically correct liberals (e.g.,
>>Scott) revise history to fabricate achievements for Blacks.

>What? Are you saying that Robert Peary _did_ discover the South Pole,
>and not the North Pole???

>>Who organized the party, slippery Scott?  Peary or his Black servant?

>Point is, Brian ol' bean, that this was not some little Sunday toddle
>in your local park. Peary had tried multiple times before; he was
>rather obsessed by getting to the Pole. Henson was certainly not
>'along for the ride', as McKinney says; this was a really hard and
>dangerous expedition that people had been killed on before. If Peary
>hadn't been convinced that Henson was necessary, he would have sent
>him back with the other people who turned back before Peary, Henson
>and the four Inuit made the last run at the Pole.

>BTW, here's a cut from the article on Henson from a source that I know
>you'll love, _Encyclopedia Britannica__ via Britannica Online:

>"Orphaned as a youth, Henson went to sea at the age of 12 as a cabin
>boy on the sailing ship Katie Hines. Later, while working in a store
>in Washington, D.C., he met Peary, who hired him as a valet for his
>next expedition to Nicaragua (1888). Peary, impressed with Henson's
>ability and resourcefulness, employed him as an attendant on his seven
>subsequent expeditions to the Arctic (1891-92; 1893-95; 1896;
>1897; 1898-1902; 1905-06; 1908-09). In 1909 Peary and Henson,
>accompanied by four Eskimos, became the first men to reach the 
>North Pole, the rest of the crew having turned back earlier. Henson's
>account of the journey, A Negro Explorer at the North Pole,
>appeared in 1912. "

For the record neither of them reached the North Pole.  This was first
pointed out by astronomer Dennis Rawlings in 1973 (who was right in
his conclusion but his calculations were slightly off) and verified
further in National Geographic in 1988 by Artic explorer Wally
Herbert, who pointed out that had Peary proceeded according to speed
he would have still fell at least 60 miles short of the North Pole.
Peary's calculations also did not even begin to take into
consideration the drift of the Arctic icepack, which is so rapid that
Arctic explorers usually wake up 3 or 4 miles away from where they
went to sleep.  Even Henson who was interviewed later in life believed
Peary was lying about their "arrival" at the North Pole.   The first
unassisted expedition to the North Pole actually wasn't to occur until
1995 in an expedition led by Canadian-German Richard Weber.  Sorry,
Scott -- no Negroes were there.  

Interesting there has never been a Negro expeditionary force, i.e.,
one -organized- and -led- by Negroes (read that one carefully slippery
Scott) to either the North Pole, or the South Pole.   

The history of Negro international expeditions and discovery is
virtually non-existent, and certainly nothing compared with that of
the White man.   I guess your "racial equality" bid came up short in
this area too.

Just keep looking for that "lost" African first world nation, Scott.
Keep digging -- you'll find it.  I think those "eeeeevil Nazis"
probably destroyed it and hid it from view.  (heehee).   

Brian Smith
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hmcom@eskimo.com (company account) wrote:


>Laura Finsten  writes:

>>cutter001@aol.com wrote:

>>>to chastise you, and I'm not his boss.  I do however appreciate his
>>>posting on my behalf, I guess its that sense of community Arleen spoke of.

>>You all think so much alike that any mouth will do?  Rather borg-like
>>community you describe, Mr. cutter001.  Or is cutter your first name
>>and 001 your last?  I'd like to address you properly, but I'm not
>>familiar with names that come with numerals in them.

>It is interesting to note that individual responsibility is unknown in
>the communist and collectivist world.  When the individual makes a
>mistake their relatives and associates are punished.

>This is why the national socialist nazis find it so easy to condem
>whole races of people.  In their world the sins of a few people
>justify the genocide of millions.

Actually, the Jewish Holocaust industry continually blames not only
the entire German nation as a whole, both present and past, for the
hoax-crimes of the Holocaust Myth (tm), but the entire White race as
well.   And they continue to collect both politically and financially
in spades for these collectivist accusations.   

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:


>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>Laura Finsten  wrote:

>>>rbdwsn  wrote:

>[...]

>>>>You have refuted nothing that has been said for the last three weeks. All 
>>>>you have learned to do from your masters (mistresses?) at Nizcor, SPLC,

>>>Adams!! You were under *strict* orders *not* to kiss and tell.  I'm afraid
>>>this is going to require disciplinary action.  Report to ZOGCanCen HQ
>>>*immediately*!

>>A fine attempt at parody.


>You think I was joking, Brian?


I said an "attempt."  I didn't say your attempt was successful.


Brian Smith
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sybesma@netcom.com (Steven D. Sybesma) wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Nov 96 2:48:05 GMT Brian Smith [sbrian@micron.net] puked:

>: The XXXXX race is not in danger of being wiped out  -- nor are the
>: rapidly-breeding XXXXXXXX, and definitely not the XXXXXX.   The only
>: race in danger of genocide is the XXXXX race -- a genocide which is
>: occurring and being actively promoted as we speak.  

I guess you can't handle racial truths, since you have to X-out "the
White Race" like the coward that you are.  

>

>I guess Brian is making use of his last few hours.

Only cowards have to resort to censorship.   Such is an honor coming
>from  cowards like yourself.

>|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
>|            Better to have an army of 100 who have faith in God            |
>|          than an army of 100,000 that believe in different gods.          |

Yeah, OK.  That's real enlightening.  "Oh God.  Please save me from my
sins."  (heehee).  And you believe such nonsense?  Pathetic indeed.

>|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
>|Freedom and Liberty weren't invented here.  We simply copied them from God.|

Did you talk to God tonight?  How is doing?  Did he have indigestion?

>|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
>|The aim of socialism is for mankind to divorce itself from reliance on God.|
>|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|

Socialism is the form of government of Israel and we support it with
over 5 billion every year.   How dare you criticize the form of
government of the Chosen Ones?  

>| Trading your rights for promises of peace and security is like trusting a |
>|stranger to sleep with your wife and believing nothing immoral will happen.|

Seems to me like you've traded in your brain for some lame first
century superstitutious trash.  

>|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
>|America used to be about God & country---Now it's about Socialism & the NWO|

Socialism is a way of life in Israel and Asia:  who are you to
criticize another race's form of government?   You must be some sort
of RACIST.  And many Jews favor the NWO and the idea of a central
government policing the world just as it does now.   It works great
for Israel.  Are you criticizing Jews because many of them like the
NWO?   How dare you!  Down on your knees and pray forgiveness from
Jehovah for daring to criticize his Chosen!   Or suffer His wrath.
NOW!

>|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
>| We don't need Clinton's New Covenant.  The original one will do just fine.|

Have you prayed forgiveness yet?  God will punish you if you don't.

>|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
>|     The U.N. should read Acts 17:22-31 with some emphasis on verse 26     |

The majority of Jews polled favor the UN.  Again, are you daring to
oppose the Chosen Ones AGAIN?  Down on your knees before His Chosen
Ones, gentile dog.  Beg forgiveness from the Jehovah God lest he
strike you for criticizing his Chosen!

>|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
>|From where we now stand, faithfulness to the Constitution would be progress|

Sure, whatever the Constitution means.  It means whatever anyone wants
it to mean since original intent is discarded.  

>|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
>|Join the U.S. Taxpayers Party  1-800-2 VETO IRS  http://www.ustaxpayers.org|
>*---------------------------------------------------------------------------*

I'm sure a tax revolt will do it.  Yeah, that's the ticket. (snarf)

Brian Smith
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smaceach@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Scott MacEachern) wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote: 

>>Your "schooling" was simply another unconvincing rendition of
>>"Egalitarian Theology 101" with more laughable "Black History"
>>appended thereto.  In short:  the same old unscrupulous liberal trash
>>one can find in any politically correct textbook nowadays.     

>Which bit, Brian? Are all of us African archaeologists faking our data
>about when Africans arrived in South Africa? Am I not really finding
>2500-year-old iron-smelting furnaces in Central Africa? Did Adowa
>never happen? Did Darwin really write in the 18th century? Was Peary
>really the first to reach the _South_ Pole? Are the mitochondrial DNA
>studies on modern populations all faked? Do Europeans have bigger brow
>ridges than any other populations, or not? Have you come up with a
>model that refutes the expensive-tissue hypothesis for African
>populations? Did Cyril Burt fake his data from the twin studies, or
>not? What are the infant mortality rates for 'white' American and
>African-American populations? Is being ambushed a good sign of the
>intelligence of European soldiers?

A nice flurry of liberal effulgence but it hardly begins to prove the
egalitarian article of faith holding that races are "equal."   Your
"evidence" to demonstrate this has been tenuous at best.  

The proof is in the pudding.  Whites went on to create the most
advancement civilizations in existence.  Africans for the most part
are still living in the lowest squalor, despite their contact with the
methods and means to advance themselves.  You of course blame this on
Whites or some other other environmental excuse.  Sorry.  Genetics
tell and are the most determinative forces in a being's make-up for
behavior and achievment.   Maybe your gullible brain-washed college
students buy it, but I don't buy the egalitarian hokum.

Blacks continue to score poorly on math sections of IQ tests in
comparison to other races of the same socio-economic background,
despite Blacks often having greater cultural knowledge than Asians,
and despite the ever-increasing pressure put on test-makers to create
a test that Blacks will come out "equal" or "ahead" on.   Upper-end
Black intelligence is virtually non-existent.  Math IQ tests
demonstrate a large disparity in performance between Blacks and
Asians/Whites.   

The Black culture is by White standards inferior in almost every way.
Considering the substantial disparities in achievement, culture,
appearance, intelligence, and behavior between the White and Black
races, I'm not buying your thesis that Whites and Blacks are "equal".
In fact, your assertion would actually be highly insulting to many
members of several races.   Far less do I believe Whites should
integrate with Blacks socially -- and certainly not at the DNA level.


Despite the liberal medicine show, no sale, Scott.

Brian Smith
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smaceach@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Scott MacEachern) wrote:


>mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney) wrote:

>>So that's what you feel like when you can't refute a point? Kinda makes you 
>>feel truly powerless, doesn't it.

>You'd know, I suppose. Any particular points that you can think of
>that I haven't been able to refute yet?

That the races aren't "equal", for starters.

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Laura Finsten  wrote:


>rbdwsn  wrote:

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>>You have refuted nothing that has been said for the last three weeks. All 
>>you have learned to do from your masters (mistresses?) at Nizcor, SPLC,

>Adams!! You were under *strict* orders *not* to kiss and tell.  I'm afraid
>this is going to require disciplinary action.  Report to ZOGCanCen HQ
>*immediately*!

A fine attempt at parody.   A poor refutation of Jewish media control.

http://www.natall.com/WHORULES/WHORULES.HTML

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smaceach@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Scott MacEachern) wrote:

>mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney) wrote:

>> When they don't do that, they 
>> ascribe importance to an unimportant person, and thus distort reallity. One 
>> of the present myths now being rammed into kid's brains, is the lie that 
>> Admiral Perry's black valet was a "co-discoverer" of the South Pole. Oh, yes, 
>> Perry's personal butler is of equal importance to Perry himself. What a joke! 
>> The Black valet was simply along for the ride - insignificant to the 
>> discovery. There's a total distortion and a lie, done in the interest of 
>> political correctness.

>Ohhhh, Gawd, Ian, where do I start....?

>(1) It's Robert _Peary_.

>(2) It was the _North Pole_. Good God, don't you even know the history
>of your own country??

This is excellent example of politically correct liberals (e.g.,
Scott) revise history to fabricate achievements for Blacks.

>(3) Peary didn't 'discover' the North Pole. Anyone who figures out
>that the earth is round and spins on its axis knows that it has to
>have a North and South Pole.

>(4) Mathew Henson, Peary's servant, _does_ appear to have been the
>first person to reach the North Pole. There were six of them, Peary,
>Henson and 4 Inuit, IIRC, and Peary was being pulled on a dogsled
>'cause of frostbite. Henson was a bit in the lead. Personally, I'd
>give full credit to all six of them.

Who organized the party, slippery Scott?  Peary or his Black servant?


Brian Smith
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ahabiz@aol.com wrote:

>In article <848177284$1885@atype.com>, troylaws@aol.com writes:

>>You may already be in one: the Zionist Occupied Militias. They are the
>>ones infested with people like ahabiz@aol.com and pgissource@aol.com,
>>those who - although they may not themselves be Jewish - do the bidding
>of
>>the Zionist NWO just the same. 

>LOL! well, little netnazi, when you get something wrong, at least you are
>thoroughly wrong - I'll have to give you that!  First off, since you seem
>to be oblivious to what's actually occurring on this newsgroup, Wiz
>(pgissource@aol.com) is one of the *anti*militia posters, and *I* am one
>of the *militia members* who posts here.  About the *only* time we are on
>the same side is when we encounter something as morally bankrupt and
>universally despised as the racism espoused by you little netnazis. 
>Secondly, since you and your fellow nazidiots slimed into this newsgroup,
>I've been defending the fundamental Constitutional Rights of *all*
>Americans...that you somehow confuse this with the NWO only demonstrates
>your complete ignorance of the Constitution.  Have you ever even read the
>entire Constitution little troynazi?  If you have, and it offends you so
>deeply, why do you continue to live in this country?  you know that your
>movement has no chance of success here, so why not go some place like
>serbia, where people think the same way you do?  Or is it simply that you
>are really so masochistic that you enjoy demonstrating your ignorance
>before the world here on the internet?  If not, then why are you still
>here?

Since original intent has been already abandoned, the Constitution
stands for whatever anyone wants it mean and is therefore meaningless.
Gun control and Gun-rights activists both base their position on the
Constitution with differing interpretations of the same words.  The
Constitutions guarantees no real freedoms.  It can be circumvented and
already has.   

When you say you stand for the fundamental Constitutional rights, you
are only saying you stand for YOUR version of them.  Your version of
the Constitution is no more valid than Bill or Hillary Clinton's,
since all throw out the Founders' original intent.   You "defend" what
is now meaningless. 

Brian Smith
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casanova@crosslink.net (Bob Casanova) wrote:


>On Wed, 13 Nov 96 21:48:03 GMT, mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
>wrote:

>>
>>In message <846712085$10301@atype.com> - ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) writes:
>>
>>:>That's EVERY human being billynazi,
>>:>regardless of race, ethnicity, religious beliefs, gender, or anything
>>:>else.  
>>
>>Does that include pedophiles? After all, they get their "happiness" by 
>>molesting kids. Remember, you did say "or anything else." Oh, I suspect you 
>>would deny that. But, what if tomorrow the Supreme Court legalized 
>>pedophilia? Would you then allow them into your sacred "Militia?"
>>

>Most of my teachers and professors, as well as my parents, told me
>that there is no such thing as a stupid question. Apparently they were
>wrong.

Well, that doesn't answer the question.  On what basis would you use
to exclude pedophiles, if you are in favor of letting homos into your
militia?

Brian Smith
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Lissa Valerian  wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Brian Smith wrote:

>> The White man is so stupid he doesn't realized he is being wiped off the
>> face of the earth because of his over-niceness while all the while he is
>> villified as "too cruel" the whole way down.  
>>
>> Brian Smith

My race's ignorance is something that is curable:  in fact, somethng
that we White patriots are helping to cure by pointing it out.   I
have full faith in my people.  Eventually, the White man will come
around, simply because his face is more and more being rubbed in the
growing filth of multiracial cesspit society.

Black leaders often criticize their own people for one reason or
another, especially for being the White man's or the Jew's stooge.  I
am criticizing my race for being the doormat of all nations --
especially that of the Jews.   Such criticism does not make me a "race
traitor" anymore than it makes Black leaders "race traitors".  (how
lame).  

However YOU Lissa Valerian, if you -are- White, ( something I am not
at all certain of and I have my doubts) ARE a race traitor if you
encourage and favor the multiracial society which is destroying the
White race.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of
bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the
white and black races - that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of
making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold
office, nor to inter-marry with white people; and I will say in
addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white
and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races
living together on terms of social and political equality." 

Abraham Lincoln



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Lissa Valerian  wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Brian Smith wrote:
>> a0003517@airmail.net ("Homesteadr" James Vallaster) wrote:
>> 
>> The Negro race is not in danger of being wiped out  -- nor are the
>> rapidly-breeding Mestizos, and definitely not the Asians.   The only
>> race in danger of genocide is the White race -- a genocide which is
>> occurring and being actively promoted as we speak.  

>Where is your proof?

Turn on your TV.   Proof of this campaign of genocide is promoted
through race-mixing and White self-hatred propaganda pumped through
most movies, commercial, magazines, billboards, and sitcoms by the
Jewish media and politically correct advertising agencies -- as well
as by the politically correct education system which promotes
integration "at the DNA level" and maintains that for Whites to want
to keep their race around is "evil" and "racist."   As well as the
deliberate flooding of America with non-Whites to destroy the formerly
White character of it.

http://www.natall.com/WHORULES/WHORULES.HTML

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

Here's "I've got Clinton family values Lissa"'s  idea of a "cool
militia":  

>Hey, I love it!  I think it would be cool to see gays and *constitutional*
>militias joining together to get the Government off our backs!  The
>government has *NO* business dictating our personal liberties, and what
>two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes!

>Lissa




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Lissa Valerian  wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Brian Smith wrote:

>> We're not talking about any ordinary minority here.  We're talking
>> about a people who has always tried to completely dominate whatever
>> host country they've inhabited. 

>Sounds like the National Socialist/NAZI/National Appliance/Aryans to me.

The National Socialist government was the most popular one in the 20th
century, if not the history of Europe.  The government didn't have to
disarm their people like this one is trying to do.   

>> They are always trying to change the host country to their views and
>> values and always demand that the host country accommodate them -- never
>> the other way around.  

>Sounds like the National Socialist/NAZI/National Appliance/Aryans to me.

The National Socialists were Germans not Jews.  They weren't alien
string pullers with Jewish values.  They stood for Germany and the
White race.   

[repetitive drivel snipped]

>Not to mention, that annoying little habit of complaining that they don't
>have any control, and blame it on some other group:

Actually you're incorrect.  White loyalists fully blame ourselves,
own people for allowing Jews to gain control of the their media and
dominate their government.  

>> Jews always possess an overwhelmingly disproportionate control of
>> finance and an inordinate influence over the government, subverting and
>> using both for the [so-called] Jewish agenda

>Mean while:

>> The National Socialist/NAZI/National Appliance/Aryans are attempting to
>> possess an overwhelmingly disproportionate control of USENET with crappy
>> spams, and newsgroup takeovers as well as having an inordinate influence
>> over dumb-fuck morons who cannot think for themselves, subverting and
>> using them for their Aryan agenda.

Sure, Lissa.  We're so dumb that you can't address our points even
though you and the rest of Arlin's gang of fools outnumber us 5 to 1,
and now you have to resort to cowardly censorship to silence us.

Right.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

Here's Lissa's idea of a "cool" militia:

>Hey, I love it!  I think it would be cool to see gays and *constitutional*
>militias joining together to get the Government off our backs!  The
>government has *NO* business dictating our personal liberties, and what
>two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes!

>Lissa





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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>Is this supposed to be an example of "White superiority"?
>Learn to write.

Is your comment supposed to be a declaration of "racial equality"?

Name me an advanced modern Negro nation then.  

Oops.  

Brian Smith
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ad654@seorf.ohiou.edu (Janet Littler) wrote:

>Hey folks! call the looney bin right away another one has escaped!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Let's get him back to his nice cozy padded cell ASAP.
>Janet

You'd like to glibly disregard his point through ridicule, but I
suppose you haven't read the Jewish ADL report on militias yet.  Much
of their information and spying came from ADL sources who are
themselves members or "inside" the militia.   I guess Sheldon Sheps is
doing a good job by "keeping watch" on M.A.M. for his ADL "Militiia
Watch" buddies:  making sure everything stays nice and kosher.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"We WILL have a world government whether you like it
or not. The only question is  whether that government will be
achieved by conquest or consent."  (Jewish Banker Paul Warburg,
February 17, 1950, as he testified before the U.S. Senate).

>>                                Kosher Militias
>>                                       
>>   From: troylaws@aol.com
>>   Reply to: troylaws@aol.com
>>   Date: Sat, 16 Nov 96 20:48:04 GMT
>>   Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
>>   Newsgroups:
>>          misc.activism.militia
>>   Followup to: newsgroup(s)
>>
>>
>>You may already be in one: the Zionist Occupied Militias. They are the
>>ones infested with people like ahabiz@aol.com and pgissource@aol.com,
>>those who - although they may not themselves be Jewish - do the bidding of
>>the Zionist NWO just the same. Their function is to infiltrate various
>>militias
>>and through their vociferous intimidation, render those militias little
>>more than
>>harmless social clubs, completely ineffective in doing the actual work of
>>removing the Zionist NWO from power. And I'm sure that they also
>>faithfully
>>report any suspicious charachters they find to the appropriate Zionist
>>organizations.
>>
>>Thier primary tactic here in this newsgroup is the same: vociferous
>>intimidation - mere insults. They use the usual buzzwords against those
>>who don't toe the Kosher Militia party line: Nazi, Supremacist, communist,
>>etc. and when those don't work, they resort to outright censorship.
>>
>>So much for the 1st amendment they supposedly revere.
>>
>>And they actually expect you to react like a Pavlov's dog when you see
>>those buzzwords repeated ad nauseum: they expect you to avert your eyes
>>like good little children, before you see something you ought not to.
>>
>>Well, I'm not insulted by their threats to ban me... but YOU should be.
>>You
>>should be quietly outraged that they would dare try to interfere with your
>>means
>>of acquiring information. You should be thoroughly insulted that this gang
>>of
>>NWO-like operatives would take it on themselves to try to protect you from
>>"harmful" knowledge. You should be insulted that they don't think that you
>>are smart enough to be able to sort out the truth from the lies for
>>yourself.
>>And you should be angry at them for showing you such disrespect.




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Lissa Valerian  wrote:

>On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, Eric Engelmann wrote:

>> ... but to beat the resistor into submission, so as to reduce injuries 
>> to the officers and possibility of death (from shooting) to the resistor). 

>And just how many hits does it take to beat a man into submission?  And
>how many officers does it take to beat a cuffed man while he is down, to
>make sure he's been "beaten into submission"?   Please quote the LA Policy
>on the Use of Force and Use of Deadly force where this is approved.

And what do you know about being a police officer in multiracial
America dealing with drug-induced savages speeding down the street at
over 140 mph who do not respond to physical blows and assault
policemen?    ZIP, NADA, ZILCHO.   Learn something before you open
your big female mouth to discuss something you don't have the
slightest clue about.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

Here's air-head Lissa the Liberal with more of her Clintonism:

>Hey, I love it!  I think it would be cool to see gays and *constitutional*
>militias joining together to get the Government off our backs!  The
>government has *NO* business dictating our personal liberties, and what
>two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes!

>Lissa




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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>hmcom@eskimo.com (company account) wrote:

>[...]

>>>It is interesting to note that individual responsibility is unknown in
>>>the communist and collectivist world.  When the individual makes a
>>>mistake their relatives and associates are punished.

>>>This is why the national socialist nazis find it so easy to condem
>>>whole races of people.  In their world the sins of a few people
>>>justify the genocide of millions.

>>Actually, the Jewish Holocaust industry continually blames not only
>>the entire German nation as a whole, both present and past, for the
>>hoax-crimes of the Holocaust Myth (tm), but the entire White race as
>>well.   

>More lies out of the keyboard of "Brian Smith".  You really haven't
>read any of the history of the Holocaust and of the NSDAP era at all,
>have you?  More of your borg-like "thinking", Bri, which you would
>know if you had. 

Your response doesn't even begin to refute what I wrote.  The
Holocaust Industry is literally in the business of blaming everyone
for the Fake Holocaust.  Many Jews, including Elie Wiesel, have blamed
Germans of every generation, and have called the German poeple as a
whole "evil."   This is an insult to Germans everywhere and a
collective blaming by Jews.  

>>And they continue to collect both politically and financially
>>in spades for these collectivist accusations.   

>But even if it were true, given that you are so critical of 
>"collectivist" thinking and/or accusations, does this somehow
>justify yours?  Or is this more of your hypocrisy showing through?

Huh?  YOU denounced collectivist (not I) and then when presented with
a Jewish instance of it, you then switched to calling me a hypocrite,
instead of denouncing in Jews the very same thing you (incorrectly)
denounce in White patriots.   If you denounced collectivist thought in
Whites than the honest response on your part would have been also to
denounce it in Jews.   However, you predictably did not do this.  YOU
are the hypocrite in this matter, Mrs. Finsten, not I.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of
bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the
white and black races - that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of
making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold
office, nor to inter-marry with white people; and I will say in
addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white
and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races
living together on terms of social and political equality." 

Abraham Lincoln




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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>Right.  As if the statement "goyim are dogs" or "the goyim are slaves
>>in animal form" are "contextual" statements.  I guess asking you to
>>read the Jewish scholar Shakak on the Talmud to challenge your

>Give me the complete reference (author's full name, title,
>publisher, year of publication, and ISBN), and I'll order it
>from interlibrary loan.  I told you nothing came up when I 
>searched under author=shakak on my library database.

It's available direct from NVB:  go to www.natall.com.  The NVB
catalog is on-line.  (Also, see the _Talmud Unmasked_.)   Jewish
Professor Shakak exposes the Talmud's anti-goyim hatred in depth in 
_Jewish History, Jewish Religion_.   I could try to get the info from
the person I borrowed it from and returned it.  But you already know
where to to get the book from.  It was written in the 1990's or near I
believe.  I'll try to post more on Shakak.

You didn't know about the anti-Gentile hatred of the Jewish Talmud?
It pays to question or to look beyond simply what mommy professor or
the media tells you about the world.  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of
bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the
white and black races - that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of
making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold
office, nor to inter-marry with white people; and I will say in
addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white
and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races
living together on terms of social and political equality." 

Abraham Lincoln




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Subject: Militia: Incapable of Stopping the Jewish Drive to BAN MILITIAS
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A recent quote from _Jewish Week_

"When the new Congress begins in January, it should do what the old 
Congress did not:  hold serious hearings on the "militia" movement in 
this country and enact any legislation necessary to suppress such 
extralegal paramilitary groups." 

Again the Jewish establishment shows itself to be against militia, and
its express wish and intention to destroy the militia.  In fact, Jews
are the ONLY group organized and openly calling for the destruction of
the militia as "illegal."  

Yet the militia people for the most part cowardly or ineptly refuse to
face or even mention the opposition they face from the Jewish
establishment  -- their most vocal, open, and powerful enemy.  

That is because the militia strives to all-inclusive and to stand for
too many things, is divided amongst itself, and tries to be
politically correct:  fatal mistakes.   As the result they have can
speak only softly or not at all about the Jewish campaign to ban guns
(witness Schumer and the New Brady Bill).   You can effectively
address an opposition you are not permitted to even talk about.

The militia are therefore incapable of stopping the Jews from
ultimately banning them, and are incapable of defending the rights of
Americans.   Since the NRA went bankrupt, the Brady Bill II should
pass relatively easily, since Congressmen have to little reason not to
buckle under Jewish pressure.  

Only a group which has the courage to openly face these Jewish threats
can hope to prevail.   Only the NA is addressing the Jewish threat to
America in a forthright manner.

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>Laura Finsten  wrote:

>[...]

>>>You think I was joking, Brian?

>>I said an "attempt."  I didn't say your attempt was successful.

>Brian, Brian, Brian.  You really should get some help with your
>reading comprehension.  This issue wasn't whether it was a good
>joke or a bad joke, but whether it was a joke at all.

Considering that my innitial comment about "parody" had nothing to do
with whether it was a joke or not (YOU misread it) one could hardly
claim that the issue mattered anymore.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of
bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the
white and black races - that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of
making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold
office, nor to inter-marry with white people; and I will say in
addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white
and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races
living together on terms of social and political equality." 

Abraham Lincoln




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Dave Kuehne  wrote:


>---------------- Forwarded Message ----------------

>  11 13 96 Associated Press distributes a newsstory headed:
> 
>       TWO ST. PETERSBURG POLICEMEN SHOT AFTER GRAND JURY
>             CLEARS OFFICER WHO SHOT BLACK YOUTH

> 
>    It's datelined:
> 
>       ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. (Nov 13, 1996 11:42 p.m. EST)
> 
> 
>    The story's URL:
> 
>          http://www.nando.net/newsroom/ntn/top/111396
>                      /topstory_17434.html
> 
> 
>    It reports:
> 
>       (1) Police said trouble first broke out in front of
>           a house where members of the black separatist
>           group the National People's Democratic Uhuru
>           Movement meet. The group has called for the ex-
>           ecutions of the police officers involved in last
>           month's shooting.
> 
> 
>    What kind of trouble broke out there?
> 
>       (2) "KILLER COP GOES FREE," read a flier the group
>           handed out after the grand jury ruling. "We will
>           not be shot down in the streets like dogs.  Neith-
>           er will we be pushed into jails for defending our
>           community. ...GET ORGANIZED!"
> 
> 
>    What happened next?
> 
>       (3) The streets were immediately blocked off, and mo-
>           ments later dozens of gunshots were heard. There
>           were shouts of "Get down, get down," and tear gas
>           filled the area.
> 
> 
>    Perhaps Clinton will propose taggants for tear gas.
> 
>    Was this attack ORGANIZED?
> 
>       (4) Three black men were arrested in front of the [U-
>           huru Movement] house Wednesday afternoon....

Another wonderful day in diversity land, where after a White policemen
used justified deadly force against a Negro, the tribe of natives
respond by shooting police in retaliation.   What a great society!
(sic)  Hey, can we have MORE diversity?

We need a liberal now to provide the cheesy apologia to explain that
the shooting of two St. Petersburg cops was simply "an understable
reaction by the African American community" and to think otherwise "is
racism and bigotry."  (snarf)  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney) wrote:


>In message <847564383$28421@atype.com> - johannes@ix.netcom.com (John C. Stephe
>ns III) writes:
>:>
>:>
>:>A while back, someone posted a proposal for a campaign medal.  There's
>:>a place near where I live that makes such things, so if everyone can
>:>agree on a design, I'll see about getting some done up.  I propose
>:>something along the lines of the standard campaign medal design, with a
>:>small bronze disk hanging from a ribbon.  The disk will have a
>:>swastika, with the circle and bar 'prohibited' symbol superimposed, and
>:>the lettering "Misc.Activism.Militia - Anti-Nazi Cyberwar '96". I don't
>:>recall the proposed ribbon design, if someone would be good enough to
>:>repost it I'd appreciate it.

>Or how about another: a militia baby wearing a boonie hat sitting on the 
>ground screaming "mama".

Don't forget to put a bone through its nose.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

>Yours truly,
>Ian McKinney
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smaceach@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Scott MacEachern) wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>A nice flurry of liberal effulgence but it hardly begins to prove the

>'Effulgence'! Well done, Brian! I see pretensions toward literacy
>surfacing here. Are you sure that you haven't asked your big brother
>in to help you spell out the words or something?

Considering the word came off the top of my head without dictionary
assistance for either meaning or the spelling, I'll take your
disbelief as a compliment.  

>>egalitarian article of faith holding that races are "equal."   Your
>>"evidence" to demonstrate this has been tenuous at best.  

>Nope. If you'll remember, you came into this with a lot of really
>stupid ideas about Africa and Africans, and I've been jumping up and
>down on them ever since. So: this is the quiz. Did Africans have fire
>before Europeans arrived? Who was occupying South Africa when the
>Dutch landed? What high civilizations have existed in Africa? Did
>Europeans always defeat African forces, no matter what the
>circumstance and odds? Whose articles of faith are we talking about
>here, Brian? For that matter, where are all the citations that I've
>been asking you for?

Your myth of racial equality is the article of faith.  Revel in
"primitive achievements" all you want to, slippery Scott.  The fact is
that Negroes never went beyond them, and the White man did.  And Negro
societies -still- haven't to this day.  Negro societies are vastly
more primitive people than White societies without exception.  Negro
Africa, except where the White man built it up, is invariably
primitive and squalid.   Nowhere has the Negro pulled himself up to
the level of the White or the Asian.  Math IQ tests have shown
consistently and significantly lower IQ in Negroes, even accounting
for cultural differences.   

Given Negro primitiveness, their lack of achievement, and their lower
measured intelligence, it is clear these substantial disparities are
racial and genetic.  

>>You of course blame this on
>>Whites or some other other environmental excuse. 

>Slavery and death, Brian... enough death to cause a population
>decrease through sub-Saharan Africa at a time when populations in
>other parts of the world were expanding dramatically. And no Marshall
>Plan afterward, just more of the same. 

Yeah, blah blah blah.   Excuses excuses.  The White settlers in Africa
didn't have to wait for Negroes to drop money into their laps like
welfare oafs.  They built up the society in Africa by themselves and
with their own ingenuity, and turned their nations into advanced
civilizations, as was predictable.   And you want people to buy an
excuse why African themselves could NOT do the same if they are
supposedly the same as the White man in all aspects?  

Whenever there is a consistent lack of achievement, the reason is
inherent.  Regardless of what your excuses are, the White man put
himself on the moon and Negro societies are largely still in the
jungle.  Consequently, I'm not going to buy your "racial equality"
pablum.  It's far from compelling, and anything but proven.  Actually
it's downright moronic.

>>Maybe your gullible brain-washed college
>>students buy it, but I don't buy the egalitarian hokum.

>Of course. As I said a couple of days ago, you wouldn't recognize the
>truth if it snuck up behind you and bit you on the ass.

Well I can recognize your liberal hogwash for what it is:  egalitarian
nonsense.  

>>Blacks continue to score poorly on math sections of IQ tests in
>>comparison to other races of the same socio-economic background,

>Roman Catholic vs Protestants, Ashkenazi vs Sephardim, Koreans in
>Japan vs Japanese, tall vs short... And if this is the case, why is
>there no correlation between degree of racial admixture and
>intelligence? Sorrreeee, Brian, despite the fact that most of the
>intelligence-and-race data are emitted by your racist buddies in the
>Pioneer Fund, they _still_ can't prove the correlations. 

For whatever the reason, Negroes score lower on measured intelligence
tests.  If they are just as intelligent as Whites as you claim they
are and their intelligence is "eluding" IQ tests, than Negro societies
have yet to show this.  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"Negro equality! Fudge! How long, in the government of a God great
enough to make and maintain the Universe, shall there continue knaves
to vend, and fools to gulp, so low a piece of demagoguism as this?"

Abraham Lincoln



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smaceach@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Scott MacEachern) wrote:

> Lissa Valerian  wrote:

>>And this has what to do with militias??

>I'm not sure who you're addressing, but from my point of view:

>(1) I'm doing this 'cause these NA twits are bad-mouthing Africans and
>African-Americans, people among whom I work and quite a few of who I
>count as friends. No Internet access where I work in Africa (yet), but
>I'll be damned if I'll let that sort of thing pass by without
>objecting.

We are not "bad-mouthing" Blacks -- we are pointing out the existence
of racial differences, even though to your doctrinaire sensibilities
they both are one and the same.  A lot of Blacks hate multiracialism
as much as we do and they also realize that it is untenable, which is
why the Black separatist sentiment is growing.  To be sure, people
routinely bash White people and you show have little concern for that.
The moral outrage of a liberal is indeed selective.  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"Negro equality! Fudge! How long, in the government of a God great
enough to make and maintain the Universe, shall there continue knaves
to vend, and fools to gulp, so low a piece of demagoguism as this?"

Abraham Lincoln



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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>[...]

>>Your bot-like argument that Whites can't decide for themselves who
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>This is a hoot!

>>they want in their own White state is spurious.  White nationalists
>>will decide from their own discretion based on appearance and
>                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^          ^^^^^^^^^^

>Yeah, which means that everyone who isn't a member of your little
>club is automatically suspect.  I'm sure you'll be received with
>open arms, Brianbot.

>Appearance, unspecified, of course.

>>guidelines -or- genetic analysis in a close call -- always erring on
>                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>Undoable.  And if you don't know that, you should.

It's already been done.  The NA has already used its discretion to
exclude questionables from NA membership.   It was easy -- not at all
a problem.  Like Ian said, Mrs. Finsten -- White selection is really
the least of our worries.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"Negro equality! Fudge! How long, in the government of a God great
enough to make and maintain the Universe, shall there continue knaves
to vend, and fools to gulp, so low a piece of demagoguism as this?"

Abraham Lincoln



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sybesma@netcom.com (Steven D. Sybesma) wrote:


>On Sat, 16 Nov 96 4:19:19 GMT Brian Smith gasped for his last breaths:

>: Name a race which has establshed more organizations to preserve the
>: environment than Whites?  

>: Brian Smith
>: www.natall.com

>Boy, are you getting desperate!

>Trying to appeal to the enviros to save you from getting launched, eh?

>Just for the record, and to be fair, whites have done as much to damage it as
>to save it.  Saving it has been an occupation of late, also.

>Your pitiful attempt to make a point on racial superiority fell flat there.

>Man, are you a sorry excuse for a Nazi!

>Find something you're more successful at before you shame yourself too much.

I guess you couldn't answer the question.

Brian Smith
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Eric Engelmann  wrote:


>Laura Finsten wrote:
>> >>Ummm, looked at a Bible lately, Brian ol' boy? Check the Old
>> >>Testament, some time. Then take into account the fact that the Talmud
>> >>is a set of _commentaries_ on the Scriptures. Now, Brian, look up a
>> >>set of _Christian_ religious writings on the Jews from, say, the late
>> >>Roman Empire or the medieval period or the Counter-Reformation. Y'see
>> >>all the hatefulness directed toward Jews in those commentaries? That's
>> >>the context in which the Talmud was written.
>History is full of hate towards Jews by many of the peoples they've
>lived among. Even Martin Luther, late in his life, wrote "The Jews and
>Their Lies." Not a book you hear a lot about. The reality is that any
>minority that lives among, and yet remains separate from, a majority
>culture, *AND* is successful, in the eyes of the majority, is doomed to
>persecution, sooner or later. Jewish culture supports success and
>demands living separate from majority culture. It would be no surprise
>that their leaders wrote hate literature to confront the hate towards
>them and the tendency for any people to be assimilated, eventually, by
>the culture they live among. I've never read any Jewish texts, so I
>don't know.

We're not talking about any ordinary minority here.  We're talking
about a people who has always tried to completely dominate whatever
host country they've inhabited.  They are always trying to change the
host country to their views and values and always demand that the host
country accommodate them -- never the other way around.   They've
always exhibited a contempt and hatred of the people whose lands they
inhabited as guest as well.  Jews always possess an overwhelmingly
disproportionate control of finance and an inordinate influence over
the government, subverting and using both for the Jewish agenda 

Brian Smith
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INTRODUCTION:

General Patton was known as the "fightingest" general in all the
Allied forces. Throughout WWII Patton believed Germany was an evil
menace to America's freedom. However, during the final days of the
conflict, his views began to change as his understanding of the
situation grew.  His views towards the Germans changed as Patton began
to realize that the U.S. had fought a war to destroy a people for
alien interest, a war which leveled the only power preventing
communism from expanding its empire over large portions of Europe.   

Patton wanted to confront and defeat the Soviet army both to liberate
Europe and protect the United States from communism, and could have
done so easily -- but Washington expressly prohibited him from doing
so.  Patton ultimately realized the U.S. government and mass media
were guided and dominated by traitorous alien-subversives and their
lackeys whose agenda was distinctly Jewish and un-American.  He then
immediately resolved to fight them at all costs and with all strength.


Patton's diary reveals the evolution of his views and was published in
1974 by the Houghton Mifflin Company under the title _The Patton
Papers_.

THE END OF WWII:   PATTON WAS CONCERNED ABOUT SOVIETS

On May 7, 1945, just before the German capitulation, Patton had a
conference in Austria with U.S. Secretary of War Robert Patterson.
Patton was gravely concerned over the Soviet failure to respect the
demarcation lines separating the Soviet and American occupation zones.
he was also alarmed by plans in Washington for the immediate partial
demobilization of the U.S. Army

Patton said to Patterson:  "Let's keep our boot polished, bayonets
sharpened, and present a picture of force and strength to the Red
Army.  This is the only language they understand and respect."

Patterson replied:  "Oh, George, you have been so close to this thing
so long, you have lost sight of the big picture."  

Patton rejoined:  "I understand the situation.  Their [the Soviet]
supply system is inadequate to maintain them in a serious action such
as I could put to them.  They have chickens in the coop and cattle on
the hoof -- that's their supply system.  They could probably maintain
themselves in the type of fighting I could give them for five days
After that it would make no difference how many million men they have,
and if you wanted Moscow I could give it to you.  They lived on the
land coming down.  There is insufficient left for themselves going
back.  Let's not give them time to build up their supplies. If we do
then... we have had a victory over the Germans and disarmed them, but
have failed in the liberation of Europe; we have lost the war!"

The more Patton saw of the Soviets, the stronger Patton's conviction
grew that the proper course of action would be to stifle communism
then and there, while the chance existed.  Later in May 1945 he
attended several meetings and social affairs with top Red Army
officers, and he evaluated them carefully.  Patton noted in his diary
on May 14: "I have never seen in any army at any time, including the
German Imperial Army of 1912, as severe discipline as exists in the
Russian army.  The officers, with few exceptions, give the appearance
of recently civilized Mongolian bandits."  

And Patton's aide, General Hobart Gay, noted in his own journal for
May 14: "Everything [the Russians] did impressed one with the idea of
virility and cruelty."  

Nevertheless, Patton knew the Americans could whip the Reds then --
but perhaps not later.  On May 18 he noted in his diary: "In my
opinion, the American Army as it now exists could beat the Russians
with the greatest of ease, because, while the Russians have good
infantry, they are lacking in artillery, air, tanks, and in the
knowledge of the use of the combined arms, whereas we excel in all
three of these.  If it should be necessary to fight the Russians, the
sooner we do it the better."  On May 16, 1945 Patton repeated his
concern when he wrote his wife: "If we have to fight them, now is the
time.  From now on we will get weaker and they stronger."   Patton's
urgent and prophetic advice went unheeded.

PATTON ENCOUNTERS JEWS:

Having immediately recognized the Soviet danger and urged a course of
action which would have freed all of Europe from the communist yoke
with the expenditure of far less American blood than was spilled in
Korea and Vietnam and would have obviated both later wars not to
mention an almost-triggered World War III -- Patton next came to
appreciate the true nature of the people for whom World War II was
fought:  the Jews.

Most of the Jews swarming over Germany immediately after the war came
>from  Poland and Russia.  Patton found their personal habits
disgusting:  "These people do not understand toilets and refuse to use
them except as repositories for tin cans, garbage, and refuse ... They
decline, where practicable, to use latrines, preferring to relieve
themselves on the floor."  Another entry reads: "Jews were only forced
to desist from their nastiness and clean up the mess by the threat of
the butt ends of rifles.  Of course, I know the expression 'lost
tribes of Israel' applied the tribes which disappeared -- not the
tribe of Judah from which the current sons of bitches are descended.
However, it is my person opinion that this too is a lost tribe -- lost
to all decency."  

PATTON ATTENDS JEWISH RELIGIOUS SERVICE AT EISENHOWER'S REQUEST:

Patton's initial impressions of the Jews were not improved when he
attended a Jewish religious service at Eisenhower's insistence.
Patton's diary entry for September 17, 1945, read in part;  "this
happened to be the feast of Yom Kippur, so they were all collected in
a large, wooden building, which they called a synagogue.  It behooved
General Eisenhower to make a speech for them.  We entered the
synagogue, which packed with the greatest stinking bunch of humanity I
have ever seen.  When we got about halfway up, the head rabbi, who was
dressed in a fur hat similar to that worn by Henry VIII of England and
in a surplice heavily embroidered and very filthy, came and met the
General... The smell was so terrible that I almost fainted and
actually about three hours lost my lunch as the result of remembering
it."  

These experiences and a great many others firmly convinced Patton that
the Jews were an especially unsavory variety of creature and hardly
deserving of all the official concern the American government was
bestowing on them.  A September diary entry, following a demand from
Washington that more German housing be turned over Jews, summed up his
feelings:

"Evidently the virus started by Morgenthau and Baruch of a Semitic
revenge against all Germans is still working.  Harrison [a state
department official] and his associates indicate that they feel German
civilians should be removed from houses for the purpose of housing
Displaced Person.  There are two errors in this assumption.  First,
when we remove an individual German we punish an individual German,
while the punishment is not intended for the individual but for the
race.  Furthermore, it is against my Ango-Saxon conscience to remove a
person from a house, which is a punishment, without due process of
law."  

PATTON'S CONSCIENCE CONFLICTED WITH VINDICTIVE ANTI-GERMAN AGENDA 

Various of Patton's colleagues tried to make it perfectly clear what
was expected of him.  One politically ambitious officer, Brig. Gen.
Phillip S. Gage, wrote to Patton:  "Of course, I know that even your
extensive powers are limited, but I do hope that wherever and whenever
you can you will do what you can to make the German populace suffer.
For God's sake, please don't ever go soft in regard to them.  Nothing
could ever be too bad for them." 

But Patton continued to do what he thought was right, whenever he
could.  With great reluctance, and only after repeated promptings from
Eisenhower, he had thrown German families out of their homes to make
room for more than a million Jewish DP's -- part of the famous "Six
Million" who had supposedly been gassed -- but Patton balked when
ordered to begin blowing up German factories in accord with the
infamous Morgenthau Plan to destroy Germany's economic basis forever.
Patton wrote in his diary "I doubted the expediency of blowing up
factories, because the ends for which the factories are being blown up
-- that is, preventing Germany from preparing for war -- can be
equally well attained through the destruction of their machinery,
while the buildings can be used to house thousands of homeless
persons."

General Patton also expressed doubts about the overwhelming emphasis
being placed on persecuting every German who had been formerly been a
member of the National Socialist Party.  In a letter to his wife,
September 14, 1945, he said:  "I am frankly opposed to this war
criminal stuff.  It is not cricket and it is Semitic.  I am also
opposed to sending POW's to work as slaves in foreign lands, where
many will be starved to death."

His moderation of the vindictive measures imposed by Morgenthau and
others in Washington was bringing him increasingly into conflict with
Eisenhower and other politically ambitious generals.  In another
letter to his wife, General Patton commented "I have been at Frankfurt
for a civil government conference.  If what we are doing [to the
Germans] is 'Liberty, then give me death.'  I can't see how Americans
can sink so low.  It is Semitic, and I am sure of it."

And in his diary, he noted: "Today we received orders. . . .in which
we were told to give the Jews special accommodations.  If for Jews,
why not Catholics, Mormons, etc?..  We are also turning over to the
French several hundred thousand prisoners of war to be used as slave
labor.  It is amusing to recall that we fought the Revolution in
defense of the rights of man and the Civil War to abolish slavery and
have now gone back on both principles."  

PATTON CONCLUDES WAR WAS FOUGHT AGAINST THE WRONG PEOPLE

Patton's duties as military governor took Patton to all parts of
Germany and intimately acquainted him with the German people and their
condition.  He cold not help but compare them with the French, the
Italians, the Belgians, and even the British.   This comparison
gradually forced im to the conclusion that World War II had been
fought against the wrong people.

After a visit to ruined Berlin, General Patton wrote his wife on July
21, 1945:  "Berlin gave me the blues.  We have destroyed what could
have been a good race, and we are about to replace them with Mongolian
savages...  It's said for the first week after they took [Berlin], all
women who ran were shot and those who did not were raped.  I could
have taken it [instead of the Soviets] had I been allowed."

This conviction, that the politicians had used him and the U.S. Army
for a criminal purpose, grew in the following weeks.  During a dinner
with French General Alphonse Juin in August, General Patton was
surprised to find the Frenchman in agreement with him.  His diary
entry for August 18 quotes Gen. Juin:  "'It is indeed unfortunate, mon
General, that the English and the Americans have destroyed in Europe
the only sound country -- and I do not mean France.  Therefore, the
road is now open for the advent of Russian communism."

Later diary entries and letters to General Patton's wife reiterate
this same conclusion.  On August 31, Patton wrote:  "Actually, the
Germans are the  only decent people left in Europe.  It's a choice
between them and the Russians.  I prefer the Germans."  And on
September 2:  "What we are doing is to destroy the only semi-modern
state in Europe, so that Russian can swallow the whole."

IT IS DECIDED PATTON MUST BE STOPPED:

By this time the Morgenthauists and media monopolists had decided that
Patton was incorrigible and must be discredited.  They began a
non-stop hounding of him in the press accusing him of being "soft on
Nazis."  Over and over they recalled an incident in which Patton had
slapped a shirker two previously, during the  Sicily campaign.  A New
York newspaper printed the completely false claim that when Patton had
slapped the soldier, Patton called him a "yellow-bellied Jew."  Then
in a press conference on September 22, reporters began needling Patton
repeatedly, during which Patton lost his temper.  When Patton was
repeatedly asked why he wasn't hunting Nazis hard enough, the press
quoted Patton as saying "The Nazi thing is a like a
Democrat-Republican fight."   The _New York Times_ headlined this
quote and papers all over America picked it up as well.

The unmistakable hatred which had been directed at him during this
press conference opened Patton's eyes fully as to what was afoot.  In
this diary that night he wrote:  "There is a very apparent Semitic
influence in the press.  They are trying to do two things:  first,
implement communism, and second, see that all businessmen of German
ancestry and non-Jewish antecedents are thrown out of their jobs.
They have utterly lost the Anglo-Saxon conception of justice an feel
that a man can be kicked out because somebody else says he is a Nazi.
They were evidently quite shocked when I told them I would kick nobody
out without the successful proof of guilt before a court of law...
Another point which the press harped on was the fact that we were
doing too much for the Germans to the detriment of the DP's, most of
whom are Jews.  I could not give the answer to that one, because the
answer is that, in my opinion and that of most non-political officers,
it is vitally necessary for us to build Germany up now as a buffer
state against Russia.  In fact, I am afraid we have waited too long."

PATTON IS FINALLY RELIEVED AS GERMANY'S MILITARY GOVERNOR 

Eisenhower responded immediately to the press outcry against Patton
and made the decision to relieve him of his duties as military
governor and 'kick him upstairs" as the commander of the Fifteenth
Army.  In a letter to his wife on September 29 Patton indicated he
was, in a way, not unhappy with his new assignment, because "I would
like it much better than being a sort of executioner to the best race
in Europe."  

But even his change of duties did not shut Patton up.  In his diary
entry of October 1, we find the observation:  "In thinking over the
situation, I could not but be impressed with the belief that at the
present moment the unblemished record of the American Army for
non-political activities is about to be lost.  Everyone seems to be
more interested in the effects which his actions will have on his
political future than in carrying out the motto of the United States
Military Academy, 'Duty, Honor, Country.'  I hope that after the
current crop of political aspirants has been gathered our former
tradition will be restored."

PATTON CONTINUES TO SPEAK OUT:

Patton continued to express these sentiments to his friends -- and
those he -thought- were his friends.  On October 22 he wrote a long
letter to Maj. Gen. James G. Harbord, who was back in the United
States.  In the letter Patton bitterly condemned the Morgenthau
policy; Eisenhower's pusillanimous behavior in the face of Jewish
demands; the strong pro-Soviet bias in the press; and the
politicalization, corruption, degradation, and demoralization of the
U.S. Army which these things were causing.

Patton wrote regarding the politicalization of the Army, "All the
general officers in the higher brackets receive each morning from the
War Department a set of American [newspaper] headlines, and, with the
sole exception of myself, they guide themselves during the ensuing day
by what they have read in the papers...."

PATTON PLANS FULL COUNTER-ATTACK

In his letter to Harbord, Patton also revealed his own plans to fight
those who were destroying the morale and integrity of the Army and
endangering America's future by not opposing the growing Soviet might:
"It is my present thought... that when I finish this job, which will
be around the first of the year, I shall resign, not retire, because
if I retire I will still have a gag in my mouth... I should not start
a limited counter-attack, which would be contrary to my military
theories, but should wait until I can start an all-out offensive..."

Two month later, on December 23, 1945, General George S. Patton was
silenced forever.



(The above article was taken from "General Patton's Warning" contained
in the _The Best of Attack and National Vanguard_, pp. 86 - 88.
Available from National Vanguard Books.)

Go to www.natall.com

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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a0003517@airmail.net ("Homesteadr" James Vallaster) wrote:


>In light of the recent revelations about GULF WAR SYNDROME
>by Captain Joyce Riley, Dr. Garth Nicholson, Dr. Peter Kawaja
>and others -- that it is due primarily to a man-made virus
>called "Microplasma Incognitas", developed in chemical and 
>biological-weapons laboratories in America -- this background 
>report on man-made viruses for population-control purposes, 
>issued by William Cooper several years ago, is relevant.  

>-------------------------------------------------------------

>[from Lightparty@aol.com]

>DOCUMENT TITLE: Global 2000

>From: Bill Cooper 

The Negro race is not in danger of being wiped out  -- nor are the
rapidly-breeding Mestizos, and definitely not the Asians.   The only
race in danger of genocide is the White race -- a genocide which is
occurring and being actively promoted as we speak.  

The article by Cooper is disinformational crap, intended to create
hysteria and consequent minority "unity." based on anti-White
sentiment.   Since Cooper is a race-mixer I wouldn't doubt this is
what he wishes for.  The only theme united the "diversity" coalition
of minorities, freaks, and faggots is opposition to the normal
healthy, White male anyway.  

Whenever anyone even hints at suggesting reasonable birth control
measures to non-Whites, the bogus accusation of "population
eradication" is immediately raised as a strawman.   As far as I'm
concerned, if half of Africa starves, too bad.  Obviously, Nature is
correcting itself as those people are too ignorant to have children
only according to their ability to take care of them.   Guilt-ridden
Whites are always running to their aid, which only aggravates the
situation futher  by artificially inflating their population through
food-supplies which normally would exist in that region, which in turn
just encourages the breeding of more and more children which can't be
fed.   

Whites should start caring about their own people instead of crying
over other races, while their own race goes down the tubes and the
ungrateful other races shout behind them "good riddance!"   The White
man is so stupid he doesn't realized he is being wiped off the face of
the earth because of his over-niceness while all the while he is
villified as "too cruel" the whole way down.   I'm not falling for
that guilt trap.   To HELL with other races for all I care -- they can
take care of their own filthy, squalid masses.  I'm only looking out
for MY own race.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com





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juggler@interlog.com (sheldon sheps) wrote:

>You'd think that Brian would know better.  There is a voting going 
>on in this ng where the complaint is that the NA is posting 
>off-topic.  Occassonally, Brian says that he is only posting on
>the militia.  And then he goes and INTRODUCES this piece of canned
>NA ...whatever.  IT HAS ZIP,NADA, NOTHING to do with the topics of
>this newsgroup.  

Sheldon, please produce the misc.activism.militia "list" which decides
which topics are "OK."   Until then quit pretending "the topics of
this newsgroup" is anything other than your own biased opinion -- one
is that is biased in favor of your own Jewish views and the Jewish ADL
"Militia Watch" buddies you openly and freely associate with.

Since militia topics include patriotism, gun control, American
history, tyranny, alien and domestic subversion, and the
Constitution's meaning, the article on General George Patton is at the
very least, arguably "on topic"  even if it does reveal what you,
Sheldon, do not like:   that yet another of America's greatest men
both discovered and opposed the Semitic string-pullers which guide our
government's policies and finances and control the media.   

That is the real reason why you moved to have White loyalists
-censored- from this newsgroup:  not because we were "off-topic" but
because we were spilling the goods about the Jewish ADL's threat to
freedom and gun ownership and the Jewish control of the media:   two
facts which ALL patriots need to know, but which you and your fellow
Jews don't want them to know.  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"We WILL have a world government whether you like it
or not. The only question is  whether that government will be
achieved by conquest or consent." (Jewish Banker Paul Warburg,
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smaceach@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Scott MacEachern) wrote:

>vincent@dreamon.com (Vincent) wrote:

>>If you
>>prefer a society were women are taught that motherhood is the highest
>>honour, then you would prefer life in a National Alliance run world.

>"Kirche, k|che, kinder" Now where have I heard that before?

>Scott

Scott would rather have our women climbing telephone phones, doing
construction work, and trying to be soldiers.  I guess that organ
called a uterus was placed there by Nature just to bleed blood for a
few days every month -- just an inconvenience of sorts, nothing that
can't be removed by surgery.  The liberal view is indeed a sick one,
which is why feminism has increasingly become a bad word to more and
more normal, healthy women. 

Brian Smith
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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>hmcom@eskimo.com (company account) wrote:

>[...]

>>It is interesting to note that individual responsibility is unknown in
>>the communist and collectivist world.  When the individual makes a
>>mistake their relatives and associates are punished.

>>This is why the national socialist nazis find it so easy to condem
>>whole races of people.  In their world the sins of a few people
>>justify the genocide of millions.

>And at the same time, in their own minds at least, it absolves them
>of any personal responsibility for either their own actions or for
>their sorry lives.

As stated before, White patriots place full responsibility of the
Jewish takeover of the media and the grossly disproportionate Jewish
influence over the government, on the shoulders of ourselves, of
Whites -- especially our traitorous elected White leaders who sold us
out to Jewish interest, of which Clinton is just the most obvious
example.  

The goal of White patriotism is White self-determination.  Jews have
their own Jewish state and self-determination.   Evidently Mrs.
Finsten doesn't not believe the "lowly" White race should have the
same privileges and status of the Self-Chosen.

And by the way, Mrs. Finsten, my life is far from sorry.  It is quite
satisfying thank you.  Sorry to break your little preconceived false
notion.  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of
bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the
white and black races - that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of
making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold
office, nor to inter-marry with white people; and I will say in
addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white
and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races
living together on terms of social and political equality." 

Abraham Lincoln




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ad654@seorf.ohiou.edu (Janet Littler) wrote:

>>RATIONALE FOR BANNING [by Sheldon Sheps, juggler@interlog.com]:

[Sheldon's sanctimonious ADL call for censorship snipped]

After which Janet wrote:

>I agree. The militia groups are too important to the future of this
>country to stifle free discussion of issues affecting militias by
>permitting this newsgroup to be taken over by hatemongers.
>Janet

I think the future of the White race -- the race that created the
United States and countless other advanced nations and creations -- is
far too valuable and important to be destroyed by multiracialists,
regardless of what their stripe is -- even those who wear
pseudo-patriot and pseudo-Constitution clothing.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate than that these
people [the Blacks] are to be free; nor is it less certain that the
two races, equally free, cannot live in the same government. Nature,
habit, opinion have drawn indelible lines of distinction between them.
It is still in our power to direct the process of emancipation and
deportation, peaceably, and in such slow degree, as that the evil will
wear off insensibly, and their place be ...filled up by free White
laborers. If, on the contrary, it is left to force itself on, human
nature must shudder at the prospect held up."     Thomas Jefferson



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rbdwsn  wrote:

>In a previous posting, I wrote:

>Here is a statement from an article, published in a Jewish newspaper in
>Israel, written by a Jewish columnist, and reported in a Jewish newspaper
>in Boston:
>                         IN OUR HANDS [The title is Sobran's/July 1996]

>Speaking of a typical Jewish-style massacre, this one perpetrated against
>100 Lebanese men, women, and children, Ari Shavit wrote in Haaretz: "We
>killed them out of a certain naive hubris. BELIEVING WITH ABSOLUTE
>CERTITUDE THAT NOW, WITH THE WHITE HOUSE, THE CONGRESS, AND MOST OF THE
>AMERICAN MEDIA IN OUR HANDS, [emphasis ED.] the lives of others do not
>count as much as our own..."

>The above statement means that the American Government is in the hands of
>an alien people, the Jews, whose objectives are inimical to our people 
>and to our Constitution. 

>In the October 17th edition of Jewish Week, the following was reported: 
>"The good news and the bad news facing pro-Israel forces this year is 
>that there really aren't any villains who must be defeated or endangered 
>heroes to be rescued. Israel is popular across the political spectrum. 
>Opponents are either lyling low or trying to sound like friends. In 
>several Senate races, Israel is in a win/win situation. Regardless of who 
>loses, the winner will be a friend." 

>This Jewish gloating, offensive as it is, is unfortunately no 
>exaggeration. Congress is definitely "In Our Hands". 

>What does this mean for the Militia movement? Let's see what Jewish Week 
>has to say on that subject:

>"When the new Congress begins in January, it should do what the old 
>Congress did not:  hold serious hearings on the "militia" movement in 
>this country and enact any legislation necessary to suppress such 
>extralegal paramilitary groups." 

If the militia can't see the Jewish interest is dedicated to their
destruction, or are too cowardly to identify this threat, then the
militia are lame indeed and deserve everything they -will- get.

>From other sources we learn that the Jew Schumer will be spearheading a 
>second Brady Bill through Congress, which if enacted would have the 
>ultimate effect of cutting the Militia Movement into tiny little pieces. 
>This Jew inspired monstrosity would dismember the Second Amendment of the 
>Constitution. 

>Funny thing it is the Militia that is standing idly by while Jews are 
>banning me from this newsgroup. In fact, if you believe that Arleen? is 
>really a Militia member (which I don't for a second) it is she who 
>boasted she called in her friends in the Jewish Nizcor to kick me out. 
>And not only me, but several others who strongly support many Militia 
>objectives like restoring the Constitution of our Founding Fathers and 
>taking America back from the alien hoardes that occupy and control our 
>Native Land. 

>If you still can't tell your friends from your enemies at this late 
>juncture, I'm afraid you're a weak reed for our people to lean on. Or if 
>your fear of the Jews outweighs your loyalty to your friends all your 
>soldier-boy games will provide nothing but comic relief to our enemies. 

Damn right.

>Just think Militiamen, to stand up for Freedom of Speech on this 
>newsgroup, you don't need your cameras and your tape recorders, let alone 
>your guns (oh Heavens! nnnottt THOSE); you just need the balls to stand 
>up like men to the Nizcor slime and say: "Jews, if you don't like our 
>discussions GET OUT". But then those mean Jews might call you nasty names 
>like they do us, and that might be just too much for you to bear.:)

Even though they're kickinng us out, at least they can't say we didn't
warn them.  Shooting the messenger of truth is a common response of
the ignorant, and the soon-destroyed.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"We will have a world government whether you like it
or not. The only question is  whether that government will be
achieved by conquest or consent." (Jewish Banker Paul Warburg,
February 17, 1950, as he testified before the U.S. Senate).




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holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene Holman) wrote:

>In article <328b9ba8.15615726@news.idsonline.com>, marshall@haverford.edu wrote:

>> 
>> Kathleen, if your argument were at all consistent then you'd be
>> agitating for white people to go to Asia and Africa and mix their
>> genes with the native populations, which you have just now stated are
>> inferior. 

>She doesn't have to argue for this because it's already been done. Study
>the history of caravans, exploration, maritime trade, colonialism,
>warfare, prostitution, slavery, and tourism and find out how horny
>soldiers, traders, slavemasters, and travellers have eased their sexal
>tensions when far away from home. Anyone following the news knows that
>interethnic rape in warfare, military brothels, sex tourism, mail-order
>brides, immigration, gross income disparities, and prostitution, all
>provide ample opportunities for gene mixing in which representatives of
>every 'race' on the globe participate.

Racial mixing has been occurred in certain parts of the world, there
is no question about that.   And racial amalgamations can produced
countless different races of peoples.  

However, the peoples of the world can be evaluated according to 4 or 5
basic or "original" races.   One of these races can be called the
"European" race.  Another race can be called the "Negro or Black"
race.   Another race can be called "the Asian or Mongoloid" race.
These races correspond to the long ancient periods in which these
peoples evolved in relative isolation, and each race proceeded along a
separate and different evolutionary path, at differing rates and to
differing destinations.  Therefore, regardless of the origin of the
human species, the races evolved to different outcomes, which are
reflected by dramatic differing physical characteristics such as Black
skin and White skin and such widely differing products as Negro
"civilization" and European civilization. 

The isolated evolution of the races allowed to the races to evolve
separately.  Their separate evolution resulted in differing
characteristics, capacities, and intelligence.  Consequently, these
differing races produced civilizations differing in level of
complexity and advancement.  For example, the White race ultimately
produced advanced modern technological societies, while the Negro race
has hardly moved beyond the Stone Age in most parts of Africa in which
the White man did not venture to.   

Since the races evolved differently, each has differing capacities,
abilities, gifts, and somatic traits.  

>Kathleen said that the three 'races' "have all been mixing since
>the beginning of time". She also stated, quite correctly, that all races
>have evolved from a population which originated in Africa, for which
>reason she sees human racial evolution as a complex interplay between
>mixing and differentiation.

Yet there exists people unmixed from the original races.  And many of
these people love and wish to preserve their unique racial
characteristics and have no wish to destroy them through racial
amalgamation.

>> Most of the people in those places haven't had the benefit
>> of your vaunted "race-mixing". 

>Get a hold of a textbook on physical anthropology and compare the features
>of a Moor, a Fulani, a Hottentot, a Watusi, a Malagasy, and a Somali to
>see what nonsense you are writing. The evidence of millennia of mixture
>with neighboring peoples is amply evident in their noticeably different
>physical characteristics.

>> Look at Japan, for instance, which has
>> an extreme degree of race-consciousness.  Are they inferior?  

>This 'race-consciousness' is but a recent and temporary historical phase
>in the history of the Japanese people. Anyone with an understanding of the
>ethnogenesis of the Japanese people knows that it involved at least two
>major inputs from Asia, one very early which resulted in the Caucasoid
>Ainu of Hokkaido, and a later one which resulted in the people of more
>Mongolian appearance of northern and western Japan, as well as a third
>one, resulting in the people of more Polynesian appearance which have
>historically dominated in southern and eastern Japan. Over the course of
>several millennia, and with significant inputs at various times from China
>and Korea, the Japanese people eventually amalgamated from these racially
>diverse elements, but the 'typical' inhabitant of northerly Hokkaido is
>still strikingly different from the 'typical' inhabitant of southernmost
>Kyushu. 

Whatever Caucasoid blood may have existed in Japan has been largely
swallowed and "washed away" by Mongolian blood.  

>> Or can
>> it be that you think only white people should have their genes mixed
>> with other races?  

>What Kathleen was emphasizing is that 'race mixing' is as natural and
>inseparable an element of human history as race differentiation. The
>'Birds of a feather flock together' aspect of human social and racial
>development has always been complemented by the 'Grass is greener on the
>other side of the fence' aspect.  

Although race-mixing has occurred in parts of the world, the peoples
of the world possess a natural and instinctive xenophobia which
forbids them to race-mix.  There is no comparable "grass is always
greener" instinct as this would contradict the engine of Nature and
evolution which is speciation.

It is only recently, with the advent of mass communications and race
mixing propaganda that the peoples of the Western world (the target of
this propaganda is primarily White) to mix their unique gene pool an
genetic heritage into extinction.   For Whites to do so would be to
throw away what they possess and no other race possess:  a unique and
unparalled talent and genius for creation, civilization, science, and
art.   

For Whites to mix with Negroes, for example, is to replace a
significantly higher intelligent race with endless advancements with a
lower intelligent one which never progressed even to second-world
status by themselves.  It is to crass and an incalculabe loss to
discard what Nature advanced through long, intricate, and painstaking
years of evolution.  

>We would add that our ovewrall
>understanding of history shows that people have generally used more
>important criteria than shared skin color or hair texture as the basis for
>establishing trading and the other types of relationships, including
>sexual liaisons, which arise when people are in close and constant contact
>with one another.

Again, isolated instances of racial mixing do not contradict the much
larger trend and natural instinct within races to preserve their own
species.

>> Finally, Kathleen, MOST of us don't carry canine genes mixed in with
>> our human genes.  I think you've been doing a little bit too much
>> research.  Experimenting on yourself is a no-no.  

>Kathleen's use of the inbreeding of Dalmations was a fine example of the
>dangers of 'racial' purity. Your reading into it a suggestion that canine
>and human genes are intermixed only reveals something about either your
>reading skills or, we prefer to think, your sense of humor. The dangers of
>inbreeding are well known to anyone who has studied physically and/or
>socially isolated human populations such as the Amish of Pennsyvania or
>the rural population of northern Karelia in Finland.

The old "inbreeding" argument is a fallacy when applied to a race with
as vast genetic heterogeneity as the White race.  Besides, history
shows this as false.  White nations progressed to the highest and most
advanced nations in the world under White homogeny with no significant
harm from "inbreeding."   You'll have to come up with another argument
to urge Whites to self-extinction through race-mixing.

>We have spoken. 

Who is we?

>Eugene the Curly-headed
>King of alt.politics.white-power, Protector of our Aryan heritage,
>Defender of the English language, etc. etc. etc.

I'd say you're anything BUT the "protector of Aryan heritage."  To the
contrary you are outspoken advocate of its permanent and irreversible
destruction.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

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pkasieck@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Philip Kasiecki) wrote:

>In article <848269983$6497@atype.com>,
>Brian Smith (sbrian@micron.net) wrote:

>: Evidently Mrs. Finsten doesn't not believe the "lowly" White race
>: should have the same privileges and status of the Self-Chosen.

>    This is a hoot!!!  Whites in this country are still very much a
>privileged group.  I, as a heterosexual White male, have every privilege
>in the book in this country.

Jews and Blacks have political organizations for their own express
racial political interest groups:  "the Jewish Coalition Against ___",
"The Black Republicans".  Yet whenever there is any "White" group it
is immediately denounced as "neo-Nazi" by the media.  Affirmative
Action discriminates against Whites in favor of lesser qualified
minorities.  Sorry, the myth that the "heterosexual White male" has
every privilege is false.  The opposite is closer to the truth:  the
heterosexual White male is the most openly villiefied person in this
society.  It is legal to discriminate against him and vogue to bash
him and Whites in general.  The double standard against Whites is
clear.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate than that these
people [the Blacks] are to be free; nor is it less certain that the
two races, equally free, cannot live in the same government. Nature,
habit, opinion have drawn indelible lines of distinction between them.
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deportation, peaceably, and in such slow degree, as that the evil will
wear off insensibly, and their place be ...filled up by free White
laborers. If, on the contrary, it is left to force itself on, human
nature must shudder at the prospect held up."  Thomas Jefferson





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Randy (remedial?) Ragsdale continues to confuse the creation of
communism, which was pioneered and instigated overwhelmingly by Jews,
with the later leadership of the communists.  Again his brain must be
missing some fissure which allows it to distinguish between the ,
conception and birth of communism (which was overwhelmingly Jewish)
and later developments.  He present no evidence to refute the huge
proportion of Jews in the BIRTH of communism.

Since the birth is separate from all later events, citing later events
does not refute.   But even the claim that these later events indicate
a governmental policy of "anti-Semitism" are largely false as well.  
But that is a separate story, which I will go into also.  First things
first:

rarpol@aol.com wrote:

>In article <848114285$29096@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>writes:

>>Right.   So that's why Marx was Jewish, and first government had 350
>>out of 370 representatives were Jews.  And the top six administrators
>>of the gulag were Jewish.  And the Bolshevik party was half Jewish,
>>And every communist party in Europe was led by and disproportionately
>>filled with Jews.  And virtually every Soviet secret police chief was
>>Jewish.  And international Jewish publications claimed credit for
>>communism.  And the top 4 leaders of the Bolshevik party were Trotsky,
>>Zinoviev, Kamenev, and Lenin (3 Jews and a half-Jew married to a Jew).
>>And such Jewish dominance in communism existed even though they were a
>>small minority.  

>Once again, most of those Jews were purged from the leadership as early as
>Lenin"'s death in 1924.  Lenin was not Jewish.  As for his wife who cares! 

"Who cares" you say.  You don't think a -wife- has any influence?  Or
that it is significant that later Communist leaders nearly all had
Jewish wives, even Kruhscev and Brezhnev?

>She was a minor functionary in the outer rim of the party and not at the
>center with Stalin, Molotov, Voroshilov, Malenkov, etc.

Regardless of her rank or position, the point is she was Jewish,
involved in the communist part, further supporting the Jewish
character of Bolshevism.   

>>"...there is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself. In the
>>fact that so many Jews are  Bolsheviks. In the fact that the
>>ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with the finest ideals of
>>Judaism." (The Jewish Chronicle, April 4, 1918)

>Hell they didn't even have clue what of Bolshevism was in 1918.  Many Jews
>as well as others were fooled by the rhetoric of the party.  

Regardless of whether Jews were "fooled" (I don't buy it), your point
doesn't refute the overwhelming Jewish domination and control of the
Bolshek party and the Jewish origins and nature of Bolshevism.  

>By 1928, many found out that Russian Communism was no different than old Russian
>imperialism.

The Gulag's commissars were still Jewish 1928.  The secret police was
still Jewish-led.   Jews still had an overwhelmingly disproportionate
influence in the Communist party relative to their numbers in the
population.

Your point still fails to refute that the people who pioneered,
organized, and installed communism into Russia were overwhelmingly
Jewish including those who funded it.  The Jewish banker Jacob Schiff
dropped in over $20 million dollars to his fellow Jews in the East to
assure the victory of Communism.  

>>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish
>>brains, of Jewish  dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning,
>>whose goal is to create a new order in the world. What was
>>performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish
>>brains, and because of Jewish  dissatisfaction and by Jewish
>>planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The
>>American Hebrew, September 10, 1920)

>Once again, many misjudged.  It is true that Trotsky, nominal Jew, 

What does "nominal" Jew mean?  I guess they all just "nominal Jews"
right?  

>was
>important to the coup on Nov.7-8, 1917.  It is also true that he was not
>part of the Bolshevik party until 1917!  He remained outside the Bolshevik
>and Menshevik split from 1903-1917. 

As if any of this refutes the Jewish overwhelming and disproportionate
involvement in the creation of Communism and the guidance and control
of Bolshevism.

> His loyalty to the party because of
>his past disagreements with Lenin provided an opportunity for Stalin to
>isolate, demote, exile, and finally kill him.  So much was his influence. 

Your point still doesn't refute that Trotsky was still a Jew and a
leader of Communism.  Period.  He was among the top 4 leaders (all
Jewish or half-Jewish) in the Bolshevik party. 

Again, you do not refute the point that Jews overwhelmingly were
responsible for installing communism into Russia.   You can't even
address this point.   

>>Tell me another one, Randy.

>OK. You are full of bullshit.

Here are a few more bits for you to chew on Randy.  Don't worry,
there's plenty more where this came from.   Have fun trying to refute
these too.

--------------------------------------------------------
>From  U.S. National Archives in Washington D.C.  
Military Intelligence Report:  Declassified Sept. 27, 1952
Pub. Dir. 5200.9

American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia
Office of the Chief of Staff, INTELLIGENCE SECTION
Captain Montgomery Schuyler
March 1, 1919

"It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the United States but the
Bolshevik movement is and has been since its beginning, guided and
controled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type..."  

-------end--------------

U.S. State Dept. Document 861.00
Telegram Received:  May 15, 1918
TO:   Secretary of State
FROM:  Moscow, U.S. General Consulate Summers
460, May, 3 p.m.

"First two reports received relate to condition at and near Vitebask,
Vyazma, and Bryansk....  Jews predominant in local Soviet Government ,
anti-Jewish feeling growing among population which tends to regard
oncoming Germans as deliverers." 

-------end-----------
U.S. State Department Document 861.00/1757
TELEGRAM RECEIVED:  
TO:  Secretary of State, Washington.
FROM:  Vladivostok, U.S. Consul Caldwell
DATE:   July 5, 1918

"Following message sent from Harris Irkutsk, which was sent to the
Department in original cipher... Fifty per cent of Soviet Government
in each town consists of Jews of worst type, many of whom are
anarchists.  It would be grave mistake on our part to officially
recognize Bolshevik who scarely represent (blank) percent of Russian
[people]."

-----------------

HEADQUARTERS:  American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia
FROM:  Captain Montgomery Schuyler
TO:   The Chief of Staff
Subject:  General Report:  Omak

Vladivostok Siberia.  June 9th, 1919

"1.   In compliance with orders of the Commanding General October
25th, 1918....   that new regime would bring some sort of modern
goverment into the country.  These hopes were frustrated by the
gradual gains in power of the more irresponsible and socialistic
elements of the population guided by the Jews and other anti-Russian
races.  A table made in April1918 by Robert Wilson, the correspondent
of the London Times in Russia, shows that at that time there were 384
"cmmissars" including 2 Negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
Armenians and more than 300 Jews.  Of the latter number 264 had come
to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
Government."  

-----------end------------

I guess Jews had nothing to do with Communism, right Randy?   I guess
those U.S. intelligence reports were fabricated by "anti-Semites."

You should stop trying to cover for the heavy Jewish involvement in
Communism, to try to keep militia people from knowing the truth.  You
just keep digging yourself deeper into a hole.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

 "This second movement aims for the establishment of a
new racial domination of the  world...the moving spirits in the
second scheme are Jewish radicals. Within the ranks of
Communism is a group of this party, but it does not stop there.
To its leaders Communism is  only an incident. They are ready to
use the Islamic revolt, hatred by the Central Empire of
England, Japan's designs on India and commercial rivalries
between America and Japan. As any  movement of world revolution
must be, this is primarily antiAngloSaxon...The organization  of
the world Jewish radical movement has been perfected in almost
every land." (The Chicago  Tribune, June 19, 1920)

"The Jew Weininger, has explained why so many Jews are
communists: 'Communism  is not only a national belief but it
implies the giving up of real property especially of landed
property, and the Jews, being international, have never acquired
the taste for real property. They  prefer money, which is an
instrument of power.' " (The Secret Powers Behind Revolution, by
Vicomte Leon De Poncins, p. 137)

"We WILL have a world government whether you like it
or not. The only question is  whether that government will be
achieved by conquest or consent." (Jewish Banker Paul Warburg,
February 17, 1950, as he testified before the U.S. Senate).




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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>The National Socialist government was the most popular one in the 20th
>>century, if not the history of Europe.  The government didn't have to
>>disarm their people like this one is trying to do.

>BZZZZZZT!!!  Wrong again, Bri.  Do you really know so little of the
>Nazi regime you so idolise, or are you sanitising the truth for
>propaganda purposes?  Civilians did *not* have the right to bear arms
>in Germany under the NSDAP.   

Err -- Excuse me, Mrs. Finsten, but you dribbled a little more
ignorance on your shoe (here's a napkin).  Looks like the hoary old
canards got the better of you again.  Citizens in Germany had the full
right to bear arms under the NSDAP.  Hitler relaxed gun laws in
Germany and eliminated the 1928 ban on assault rifles, lowered the
minimum age from 20 to 18, and relaxed several other regulations as
well.  (The prohibitions of spotlight-equipped rifles and hollow-point
.22 caliber ammunition were based on considerations that the former
were unsporting when used for hunting, and the latter were inhumane.)


The truth about the much-hyped lie is contained in the book _Gun
Control in Germany, 1928-1945_  (carried by National Vanguard Books --
an excellent source of patriotic of tapes, and publications) which
contains the German firearms laws for yourself, both in the original
German exactly as they were published by the German government in the
Reichsgesetzblatt and in the complete English translations which are
provided.  If you want to skip over most of the legal stuff and go
directly to the most pertinent part of the National Socialist Firearms
Law -- the part pertaining to the purchase,ownership, and carrying of
firearms by private citizens -- turn to page 35 (Part IV of the Law).
An excerpt is on-line at:

http://www.natall.com/NATVAN/GUNHITLR.HTML

Here is a quote from this documented and informative treatise by Dr.
William Pierce:

"A Jewish group, Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership
(JPFO), quite noisy for its size, has been especially zealous in
promoting the idea that the current gun-control effort in America has
its roots in Germany during the Hitler period. This group has gone so
far as to claim in several articles published in popular magazines
read by firearms enthusiasts that the current restrictive legislation
being proposed by the U.S. government is modeled on a gun-control
statute enacted by Germany's National Socialist government: the German
Weapons Law (Waffengesetz) of March 18, 1938.

"Again, one can understand the motivation of the JPFO. Many non-Jewish
firearms owners are well aware that the movement to restrict their
rights is led and promoted primarily by Jews, and anti-Jewish feeling
has been growing among them. They know that the controlled news media,
which are almost unanimously in favor of abridging or abolishing the
Second Amendment, are very much under the influence of Jews, and they
know that the most vocal anti-gun legislators in the Congress also are
Jews. It is natural for a group such as the JPFO to mount a damage-
control effort and attempt to prevent anti-Jewish feeling from
becoming even stronger among gun owners. Their strategy is to deflect
the blame from their kinsmen in the media and the government and
direct it onto their most hated enemies, the National Socialists -- or
at least to create enough smoke to obscure the facts and keep the
gun-owning public confused... 

"Jews, it should be noted, were not Germans, even if they had been
born in Germany. The National Socialists defined citizenship in ethnic
terms, and under Hitler Jews were not accorded full rights of
citizenship. National Socialist legislation progressively excluded
Jews from key professions: teaching, the media, the practice of law,
etc. The aim was not only to free German life from an oppressive and
degenerative Jewish influence, but to persuade Jews to emigrate. The
German Weapons Law of March 18, 1938, specifically excluded Jews from
manufacturing or dealing in firearms or munitions, but it did not
exclude them from owning or bearing personal firearms. The exclusion
of Jews from the firearms business rankled them as much as any other
exclusion, and in their typically ethnocentric fashion they have
misrepresented the law involved as an anti-gun law in an effort to
cast their enemies in a bad light." 

You seem to infinitely gullible for anti-Nazi propaganda, Mrs.
Finsten.  However, in the future I suggest you do a bit of research
before you lazily accept at face value and then parrot the falsehoods
and cliches which the Jewish media and your politically correct
professors taught you. Such blind assumptions can prove embarrassing
for you (here's some more napkins.)  Remember what they told you in
school about the word "assume"?

Brian Smith
www.natall.com 

"When the new Congress begins in January, it should do what the old 
Congress did not:  hold serious hearings on the "militia" movement in 
this country and enact any legislation necessary to suppress such 
extralegal paramilitary groups."  _Washington Jewish Week_, October
17th 1996 p. 20.  (last paragraph in section "Absurdly Serious").

For exposure of one the greatest Lies of the Establishment, go to:

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html
http://www.codoh.com/
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
http://www.air-photo.com/
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html



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joe@apk.net (Joseph T. Adams) wrote:

>Brian Smith (sbrian@micron.net) wrote:

>: Name me an advanced modern Negro nation then.  

>South Africa.

>Now, name me an advanced modern all-White nation.

What a coincidence:  you mention a nation founded by Whites!  
And don't give me this "Negroes made South Africa" malarky either.
Without Whites South Africa would still be just another backward Negro
Jungle territory.   

You can't name a first Negro society created exclusively by Negroes.
(However, they are several First World White societies).   You are
only proving my point that Negroes never created a first nation by
themselves, or even WITH the White man's help.  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"Negro equality! Fudge! How long, in the government of a God great
enough to make and maintain the Universe, shall there continue knaves
to vend, and fools to gulp, so low a piece of demagoguism as this?"

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mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney) wrote:


>In message <848159283$882@atype.com> - Laura Finsten er.ca> writes:

>:>Give me the complete reference (author's full name, title,
>:>publisher, year of publication, and ISBN), and I'll order it
>:>from interlibrary loan.  I told you nothing came up when I 
>:>searched under author=shakak on my library database.

>It's Shahak, not Shakak.

>_Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years_, Israel 
>Shahak, 1994, Pluto Press. ISBN 0-7453-0818-X 

Thanks Ian.  :)

Happy reading, Mrs. Finsten.  Be prepared to jettison all preconceived
and erroneous notions.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

>Yours truly,
>Ian McKinney
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mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney) wrote:


>In message <847914484$17734@atype.com> - Laura Finsten ster.ca> writes:
>:>Duh, Ian, aren't you the one I told on apw-p that I think of it as
>:>anarchist humour?  Hard to tell, you guys all sound the same.
>:>
>:>
>:>
>:>"If I can't dance.....I don't want to be part of your revolution."
>:>          Emma Goldman

>Don't try to hide Firestein, or Firstein, or whatever. Goldman was a commie 
>and a Jew to boot. (Naturally.) It's only fitting that you use her blathering 
>as a signature. 

Mrs. Finsten first denied she was a Jew, then she claimed she has
suffered anti-Semitism.  I wish she'd make up her mind.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

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>Ian McKinney
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hmcom@eskimo.com (company account) wrote:


>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) writes:


>>hmcom@eskimo.com (company account) wrote:


>>>Laura Finsten  writes:

>>>>cutter001@aol.com wrote:

>>>>>to chastise you, and I'm not his boss.  I do however appreciate his
>>>>>posting on my behalf, I guess its that sense of community Arleen spoke of.

>>>>You all think so much alike that any mouth will do?  Rather borg-like
>>>>community you describe, Mr. cutter001.  Or is cutter your first name
>>>>and 001 your last?  I'd like to address you properly, but I'm not
>>>>familiar with names that come with numerals in them.

>>>It is interesting to note that individual responsibility is unknown in
>>>the communist and collectivist world.  When the individual makes a
>>>mistake their relatives and associates are punished.

>>>This is why the national socialist nazis find it so easy to condem
>>>whole races of people.  In their world the sins of a few people
>>>justify the genocide of millions.

>>Actually, the Jewish Holocaust industry continually blames not only
>>the entire German nation as a whole, both present and past, for the
>>hoax-crimes of the Holocaust Myth (tm), but the entire White race as
>>well.   And they continue to collect both politically and financially
>>in spades for these collectivist accusations.   

>You do not deny your communism.  Merely attempt to obscure with accusations.
>This simultaneously demonstrates your acceptance of anti-constitutional
>and anti-christian concepts as blood corruption, and the inherit insanity
>of all who follow Hitler.

Mr. McDaniel you must have been asleep.  We have argued the communist
point already, it being thoroughly drubbed.  White nationalism does
not stand for a workers' revolution or society of any kind, although
the National Alliance does acknowledge the undesirability of pure
capitalism (the U.S. does not even have pure capitalism.)   

The National Alliance isn't for the good for the greater number, nor
does it believe in racial equality or egalitarianism, nor do we favor
internationalism, or multiracialism:  the tenets of Marxism.   We
favor first and foremost a society founded on racial principles (which
is totally antithetical to Marxism and communism) dedicated to the
survival and progress of the White race.  

The U.S. possesses welfare programs galore, which are part and parcel
of the multiracial cesspit which you presumably favor, and by your
standards certainly warrants the label of "communism."   The
accusation of "communism" is simply a straw man and a deliberate
misrepresentation to attack White nationalists:  those who fought
communism fiercely as opposed to the commie-sympathetic U.S. in WWII
who abetted it and handed over millions of anti-communists to the
Soviets for torture, death, and slave labor.   

It is an odd straw to use as well, since commie-bashing has been
denounced in both the educational and the Jewish-controlled media as
"bigotted" and "McCarthyist":   mainly because virtually all of the
communist front organizations were Jewish controlled.  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"When the new Congress begins in January, it should do what the old 
Congress did not:  hold serious hearings on the "militia" movement in 
this country and enact any legislation necessary to suppress such 
extralegal paramilitary groups."  _Washington Jewish Week_, October
17th 1996 p. 20.  (last paragraph in section "Absurdly Serious").


>-McDaniel






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smaceach@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Scott MacEachern) wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)

>>Interesting there has never been a Negro expeditionary force, i.e.,
>>one -organized- and -led- by Negroes (read that one carefully slippery
>>Scott) to either the North Pole, or the South Pole.   

>Nope, quite right. Astonishingly enough, no Latvian expeditions,
>either -- out there in the Baltic where the albedo is high. 

The point being:  Whites have assembled scores of expeditionary forces
for the purposes of discovery:  Negroes have not.   

>Money, remember... ? 

This just begs the question of why Blacks don't have money.  Other
races come to Africa as poor farmer and settlers and build up
extensive advanced civilizations and capital, yet the Negroes
themselves who live there can barely pull themselves out of the jungle
with the White man's help.  The reason lies with the Negro himself and
his innate lack of IQ and skills and motivation to explore, invent,
and discover like the White man (or even the Asian man).

>Shall I walk you through the reasons for African
>countries being poor, especially at the end of the nineteenth century,
>again?

I've already heard your mealy-mouthed liberal excuses for Negro
underachievement.   I don't buy them.  The reason for Negro deficiency
is clearly genetic.

>Brian ol' boy, we're eventually going to get your geography down so
>that you grasp this. Asking me about an African First World country is
>like asking me about a Siberian First World country; they don't exist
>'cause it was defined that way.

Hint:  you won't find a first world Negro country because it doesn't
exist.  The Negro countries you'll find are virtually all backward,
primitive, and squalid 3rd world (actually 4th world) societies,
EXCEPT where the White man came in and pushed back the jungle.  And
when the White man leaves, the jungle invariably creeps back.  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"When the new Congress begins in January, it should do what the old 
Congress did not:  hold serious hearings on the "militia" movement in 
this country and enact any legislation necessary to suppress such 
extralegal paramilitary groups."  _Washington Jewish Week_, October
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ahabiz@aol.com wrote:


>In article <848283514$7918@atype.com>, mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
>writes:

>>In message <847564383$28421@atype.com> - johannes@ix.netcom.com (John C.
>>Stephe
>>ns III) writes:
>>:>
>>:>
>>:>A while back, someone posted a proposal for a campaign medal.  There's
>>:>a place near where I live that makes such things, so if everyone can
>>:>agree on a design, I'll see about getting some done up.  I propose
>>:>something along the lines of the standard campaign medal design, with a
>>:>small bronze disk hanging from a ribbon.  The disk will have a
>>:>swastika, with the circle and bar 'prohibited' symbol superimposed, and
>>:>the lettering "Misc.Activism.Militia - Anti-Nazi Cyberwar '96". I don't
>>:>recall the proposed ribbon design, if someone would be good enough to
>>:>repost it I'd appreciate it.
>>
>>I've heard everything now: giving yourself medals for battles LOST!

>not lost at all, little netnazi, we set out to neutralize your effect, and
>said effect will in fact be neutralized...it's really quite simple.

You're running like pathetic cowards, unable to deal with the truth,
or even to stand by the principles of freedom you claim to defend.  

You guys never were much opposition anyway.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com

"When the new Congress begins in January, it should do what the old 
Congress did not:  hold serious hearings on the "militia" movement in 
this country and enact any legislation necessary to suppress such 
extralegal paramilitary groups."  _Washington Jewish Week_, October
17th 1996 p. 20.  (last paragraph in section "Absurdly Serious").




From sbrian@micron.net Mon Nov 25 06:22:23 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Holocaust-Denial Nonsense (Re: blood sucking  BRIAN SM
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dkeren@world.std.com (Daniel Keren) wrote:

># The only problem is that there is no more physical evidence
># for gas chambers at Auschwitz then there was for Dachau.

>Kindly stop with this nonsense. Even "revisionists" agree that
>there are cyanide compounds on the walls of the Auschwitz gas
>chambers.

Which indicate nothing more than that Zyklon B was used for delousing
to save lives, exactly as it was manufactured for.  Why do you persist
in the gassing lie?

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html Zundelsite
http://194.243.91.7/ISLAM/ to the light
http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~lpauling/ Student Revisionist Resource Site
http://www.eskimo.com/~ralphj/ Revisionist Productions
http://home1.gte.net/mgiwer/index.html Reflections upon the Holocaust
http://flashback.se/~rislam/ Radio Islam
http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/LEUCHTER/leuchtertoc.html The
Leuchter Report
http://www.hoffman-info.com/ The Hoffman Report
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/ Greg Raven's Website
http://www.codoh.com/irving/irving.html David Irving
http://www.codoh.com/ Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust
(Bradley Smith) 
http://www.pixi.com/~bewise/ Be Wise as Serpents
http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/index.html  L'Association des Anciens
Amateurs de Récits de Guerre et
d'Holocauste (also in English)  
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/ Arthur R. Butz 
http://www.air-photo.com/ Air Photo Evidence (John Ball)
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html Adelaide Institute 

Brian Smith
www.natall.com






From sbrian@micron.net Mon Nov 25 06:55:07 PST 1996
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jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:

>In article <56mglr$6l3@is05.micron.net>,
>   sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:
>::You never "disproved" the White race's existence, Jim.   I don't have
>::to convince you of the White race's existence.  You "don't count" Jim.
>::In other words, you're just another braindead liberal.  You can keep
>::on disbelieving in the White race.  It matters not to me, "loving"
>::(gag) Jim.

>IOWS, you still can't come up with a biological definition of "white" race.

White Nationalists already have a functional definition of the White
race.  I referred you to Dr. Gunther's _Racial Realities in Europe_.
It is based on a list of physical characteristics.  Have you read it
yet?

>BTW, my parent's neighbor is an Austrian-American who fled Austria to stay out 
>of the death camps. All of her 4 grandparents and her 2 parents were confirmed 
>Austrian Catholics. Her skin is very pale white (and was such even when she 
>was younger). One of her great-grandparents was a Jew who converted to 
>Catholicism.

>Is she, in your opionion, "white"? If the information I have given you so far 
>is "insufficient", what information do you need to decide whether she is 
>"white"?

That depends on what the final definition of what "White" will be
according to the rules of a White state.  Usually, the 1/16th rule is
adopted.   She is White under that rule.  

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



From sbrian@micron.net Mon Nov 25 06:55:08 PST 1996
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jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (Jim Walsh) wrote:

>In article <56gmat$1vh@is05.micron.net>,
>   sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote (in a futile attempt to avoid my 
>request for a biologically legitimate defintion of the "white" race"):

>::Yeah.  There's no difference between a Chinaman and an African pygmy.
>::And there is no difference between a greyhound and a poodle.

>There are differences between any two members of a species. Some of these 
>differences are big, some are small. But all members of the species (absent 
>some individual fertility problems) can produce fertile young with the other 
>members (of the opposite sex). A sterotypical Chinese and a sterotypical pygmy 
>can produce fertile young, showing that they are members of the same "race": 
>the human race.

That two species or sub-species can produce fertile young does NOT
mean the two sub-species do not have significant differences between
them.   Whites and Blacks have significant differences between them --
at any rate, differences which I certainly find significant.  Both
races evolved along separate paths, both producing widely differing
cultures and widely varying levels of advancement, along with
dramatically differing somatic traits.  

To mix the two race would destroy their unique identities.  It would
also destroy the White gene pool by mixing it with a gene pool that is
lower in both intelligence and civilization-creating ability.   This
is an act of genocide, of racial destruction.  It also goes against
the overall will of Nature, as the engine of natural evolution is
speciation and race-mixing destroys the products of evolution.  It is
not an improvement on Nature either, as a higher evolved race will be
destroyed and replace with a mulatto mass incapable of achieving what
the White race achieved.  

Peoples of both races do not wish for racial amalgamation to continue
and destroy what was evolved naturally.  Many Whites also do not want
their unique talents and abilities to be destroyed through
racial-mixing.   Regardless of what mixing produces, I love my own
race and do not want it destroyed by racial mixing.

 "Loving" (sic) Jim does not care if Nature's speciation is thrown
away forever; instead he fully promotes racial amalgamation because he
believes that by mixing the races "racism" will end and people will
stop hating each other.

However, his goal will not only fail to achieve its purpose but it
will destroy a gene pool of incalculable value, talent, and
unsurpassed advancement -- the White gene pool.  After Whites are
gone, the peoples of the world will merely continue to kill each other
anyway, because struggle and conflict between peoples is the nature of
life on this planet -- a fact Jim's disease of liberalism prevents him
>from  accepting like a man.  

Whites need to reject the drive to destroy them and organize for their
own liberation and self-determination.  

>BTW, do you consider what you define as "Jews" to be "white"?

Jews as a people have an agenda different from and incompatible to
those of Whites and therefore Jews cannot be counted among "Whites."
Also, ethnically speaking Jews are also of predominantly non-European
(Khazarian-Asiatic) descent, even though various Jews have been
"Aryanized" through racial mixing over the years.   Furthermore, the
Jewish culture, history, and ethos is fundamentally different from
those shared by the European peoples.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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Bruce Houck  wrote:

>the more I read the more I get the feeling that the individual you are
>responding to says that the Holocust did not occur. My Uncles would be
>somewhat put out with him as they were among the liberators of Dachau
>and the memories haunt them to this day. I think some of their belief in
>human decency died that day, what little they had left after fighting
>from the beaches.

Interesting.  Even mainstream Holocaust proponents now admit there
were no gas chambers at Dachau and have shifted the primarily debate
to Auschwitz.  

The only problem is that there is no more physical evidence for gas
chambers at Auschwitz then there was for Dachau, or several other
fanciful claims such as death by electrocution and steaming which have
also all now been quietly dropped without a word.

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html Zundelsite
http://194.243.91.7/ISLAM/ to the light
http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~lpauling/ Student Revisionist Resource Site
http://www.eskimo.com/~ralphj/ Revisionist Productions
http://home1.gte.net/mgiwer/index.html Reflections upon the Holocaust
http://flashback.se/~rislam/ Radio Islam
http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/LEUCHTER/leuchtertoc.html The
Leuchter Report
http://www.hoffman-info.com/ The Hoffman Report
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/ Greg Raven's Website
http://www.codoh.com/irving/irving.html David Irving
http://www.codoh.com/ Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust
(Bradley Smith) 
http://www.pixi.com/~bewise/ Be Wise as Serpents
http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/index.html  L'Association des Anciens
Amateurs de Récits de Guerre et
d'Holocauste (also in English)  
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/ Arthur R. Butz 
http://www.air-photo.com/ Air Photo Evidence (John Ball)
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html Adelaide Institute 

Check out the hoax for yourself.  Propaganda lies are the rule in
modern warfare.  The Soviets tried to frame the Germans for the Katyn
Woods massacre of Poles, for example.  The "extermination by gassing"
myth is now going the way of Katyn Woods.  The only reason why it
isn't going to revealed by the mass media is because the Holocaust
Myth devolves to the interest of an especially shrill and influential
minority who wields much control over that mass media, and gains many
political benefits from the Tale.  

http://www.natall.com/WHORULES/WHORULES.HTML

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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Laura Finsten  wrote:

>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:
>>Laura Finsten  wrote:

>>>sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>[...]

>>If only I were to denounce Jews being persecuted at the Fake
>>Holocaust, Mrs. "Finsten" would then be awash in bathos and maudlin
>>moralizing to "condemn the genocide!"   But since it is "only Whites"
>>being destroyed, then of course that's "OK" and "no big loss" with
>>Mrs. Finsten.   

>"awash in bathos"?????

>Brian, find yourself a good dictionary and look up the word "genocide".
>Then come back and explain to me exactly how "Whites" are the object
>of genocide.

White lands are being deliberately flooded with hordes of faster
breeding non-Whites which are engulfing the  White race.  Whites will
be a minority as soon as the year 2030 or sooner.   Whites are denied
the self-determination they need to secure their survival as a people.
This is the destruction of a people.  This is genocide. 

Also, the Jewish media and the politically correct education system is
pumping race-mixing propaganda into Whites, deliberately encouraging
them to mix their genes and permanently destroy their existence as a
people.  This is genocide as well.  

http://www.natall.com/WHORULES/WHORULES.HTML

Whites are targetted for genocide and being systematically destroyed.
However, because it is "only Whites" being destroyed and not Jews or
non-Whites, Mrs. "Finsten" isn't wringing her hypocritical hands, but
rather nodding her liberal head in approval.

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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kate@accessone.com (Kathleen Mulhern) wrote:

>In article <55qs1s$9l5@is05.micron.net>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>*(yawn)  No, Jim, my intention is not to create ANY genocides -- either
>*real or faked.   The goal of White nationalists is a separate White
>*homeland for the preservation of our people, to prevent them a certain
>*and repulsive extinction in a sea of mud.  however, if you supposedly
>*value diversity and tolerance so much, than surely you will not mind a
>*number of Whites "opting out" of your "multicultural paradise" (gag!)
>*to preserve their own unique kind?

>O.K.... STILL waiting for a definition of a "pure white race."  Please
>post it... if you have it.  Oh... you CAN'T post a definition of a "pure
>white race?"  But why ever not?  OH!!  BECAUSE THERE IS NO SUCH THING!!  I
>understand now.

What White nationalists strive for is preserving what is left of
racially healthy White people and separating them into a new nation
where they are entitled to self-determination, the healthy racial
community they need, and a secure future like other races -- instead
of Whites being subjected to ongoing genocide.  

However, the goal of White survival conflicts with the "globalist"
school which desires to destroy national sovereignty and integrate the
world's races to achieve "equality" through amalgamation.  Whites are
the primary target of most of the establishment's race-mixing
propaganda.  This make sense because should Whites assert the will to
survive as a race, they are well capable of "opting out" of diversity
and thwarting globalism.

 Brian Smith
www.natall.com





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robotorgo@aol.com wrote:

>In article <56rc4i$56s@transend.com.tw>, jimwalsh@transend.com.tw (James
>E. Walsh) writes:

>>b Whitaker (bwhit@conterra.com) wrote:
>>: > ::Dresden had no strategic
>>: > ::significance whatsoever and was done at the end of the war simply
>to
>>: > ::kill as many German women, children, and injured as possible.
>>: > 

>Actually ball bearing factories existed at Dresden. 

Please provide proof for your assertion.  

I suppose the P51 Mustangs which flew in afterwards to strafe with
cannon fire the survivors, elderly, and injured huddled on the banks
of the river Elbe -- I guess that was done to destroy ball bearing
factories too right? 

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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From: sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
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josephcl@scf.usc.edu (Joseph Clark) wrote:

>> Brian Smith (sbrian@micron.net) wrote:
>> 
>> : If race doesn't exist then the Affirmative Action you keep promoting
>> : can't exist either. You can't make discrimination claims on behalf
>> : of the Black race against the White race if the Black and White races
>> : never existed to begin with.  

>Holy shit! If you'll pardon the expression!

>Brian Smith said something that makes sense! Wow!

>Well, of course he wrote it because he hates all non-"white" people and he
>thinks that all blacks, jews, etc. should fry and is afraid that
>affirmative action will render him unable to do this, and he has all the
>wrong reasons behind his claim, but for once, his logic is right, in a
>twisted sort of way.

Please post the proof that I "hate all Blacks, Jews, etc."

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



From sbrian@micron.net Mon Nov 25 06:55:14 PST 1996
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kate@accessone.com (Kathleen Mulhern) wrote:

>In article <56vsm2$d97@is05.micron.net>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>*Er, actually no.  I have several times stated that Whites themselves
>*are responsible for allowing Jews to dominate their government and
>*media.  Whites are also responsible for taking back control of their
>*detiny and future as a people.

>Define "Whites" here:____________________________________.

>I'm STILL waiting.

I'm still waiting for you to read Dr. Gunther as was already told to
you several times.

Brian Smith
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kate@accessone.com (Kathleen Mulhern) wrote:

>In article <32952ab2.97233948@news.netonecom.net>,
>ron.schwarz[at]nethawk.com (Delete spam-buster ([at]) to reply) wrote:

>*Johnny Winter, perhaps? 

>      :-)

>*Maybe he's just waiting for them to insert another nickel.

>Or for them to pull the cord on his back, or wind up the little box he
>lives in so he can pop out once again with some... er... "insights"
>planted by the na.  I wonder if he knows how obvious he is?

You expend much chummy conversation for an issue that according to you
is non-existent.   

Brian Smith
www.natall.com



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holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene Holman) wrote:

>In article <56p3gc$625@is05.micron.net>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>> holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene Holman) wrote:
>> 
>> >In article <328b9ba8.15615726@news.idsonline.com>,
>marshall@haverford.edu wrote:
>> 
>> >> 
>> >> Kathleen, if your argument were at all consistent then you'd be
>> >> agitating for white people to go to Asia and Africa and mix their
>> >> genes with the native populations, which you have just now stated are
>> >> inferior. 
>> 
>> >She doesn't have to argue for this because it's already been done. Study
>> >the history of caravans, exploration, maritime trade, colonialism,
>> >warfare, prostitution, slavery, and tourism and find out how horny
>> >soldiers, traders, slavemasters, and travellers have eased their sexal
>> >tensions when far away from home. Anyone following the news knows that
>> >interethnic rape in warfare, military brothels, sex tourism, mail-order
>> >brides, immigration, gross income disparities, and prostitution, all
>> >provide ample opportunities for gene mixing in which representatives of
>> >every 'race' on the globe participate.
>> 
>> Racial mixing has been occurred in certain parts of the world, there
>> is no question about that.   And racial amalgamations can produced
>> countless different races of peoples.  

>Agreed. Except replace 'certain' with 'all'.

This is not true.  There still millions of people of purely Northern
European stock for example and large unmixed populations of White
Europeans.    Look at Scandinavia for example.
 
>> However, the peoples of the world can be evaluated according to 4 or 5
>> basic or "original" races.   

>This totally contradicts the statement you just made. You know as well as
>we do that nobody can agree on how many "basic" races there are. And it is
>the fallacy of fallacies to identify "basic" with "original". Homo sapiens
>sapiens originated in the savannahs of eastern Africa. That population,
>which must also have had some internal variation, is the "original" race,
>because all other human beings are descended from it.

Races evolved in isolation, despite whatever elements among them left
to miscegenate elsewhere.  In Europe, non-White were seen as invaders
and treated as such.   This isolation obtained for several centuries.


The differences between these basic races are obvious in their
appearance.  The African pygmy is obviously different from the Nordic
or Asian.   The peoples of the world can still be classified and
analyzed according to 4 or 5 basic races, even the combination
mixtures which resulted from them.  Obviously, there can be infinite
races from these combinations, but the original races which evolved in
isolation are the components, and still exist unmixed in large
populations.

>> One of these races can be called the
>> "European" race.  Another race can be called the "Negro or Black"
>> race.   Another race can be called "the Asian or Mongoloid" race.

>This is a convenient classificatory scheme which countless studies have
>shown to lack any biological analogue. In reality the variation between
>human populations shows more continuum-like ("more" or "less") than
>discrete ("yes" or "no") characteristics and, as been stated and
>demonstrated here many times, human populations exhibit more variation
>*within* 'racial' groups than they do *between* them. With respect to hair
>texture, for example, within Europe we find straight, thin-stranded hair,
>wavy, thicker-stranded hair, as well as coarse, curly hair; in Africa we
>find wavy hair, curly hair, kinky hair, and burred hair (We've worked with
>Somalis and a considerable number of them have wavy rather than curly
>hair). Hair textures do not necessarily coincide with skin color, nor does
>skin color necessarily coincide with nose shape, amount of body hair, lip
>thickness, sweat gland configuration, etc, etc. Your 'basic races' are
>merely an artefact of your classificatory scheme, nothing more, nothing
>less.

Taken as a whole, the races are obviously closer to each other than
they are to other races.  Liberals would have us believe the
equivalent that a European has more in common with a Afrian than he
does with his own  brother or sister.  There evidently is no depth of
absurdity that the liberal will not descend to in order to deny the
existence of race.

>European civilization took off about five hundred years ago, primarily as
>a consequence of contacts and interaction with non-European civilizations 
>and, fortunately for Europeans, unfortunately for just about everyone else,
>an unprecedented ruthlessness and rapaciousness with respect to genocide
>and conquest. To be fair, this sinister side is counterbalanced to some
>degree by the contribution of some excellent thinkers and a set of
>fortunate historical circumstances, particularly the Turkish conquest of
>Constantinople and the consequent mass immigration of Greek scholars (with
>their libraries) to southern Italy. 

This is liberal bunk.  The White peoples of the world had produced
advanced civilization in Rome and Greece, and developed advanced
mathematics which Africans to this day have not developed.

>During the European Middle Ages the
>life of a German or Polish peasant was not much different - basically
>dirty, brutish, and short, but not without its redeeming moments - from
>that of his African or Asian counterpart; while that of his feudal master had much in common with that of his social
>counterparts in those parts of Africa, Asia, and the Western hemisphere
>which had developed urban civilizations (ancient Ghana, Songhai; Cambodia,
>China; Aztec, Maya, and Inca Empires).

More liberal garbage.  Europeans have consistently out-advanced
Africans regardless of whatever primitiveness all races initially
shared.  Whites went on to develop advanced modern technological
societies while Africans for the most part remain in the Stone Age
even to this day -- even despite being introduced to Western
technology.  
 
>> The isolated evolution of the races allowed to the races to evolve
>> separately.  Their separate evolution resulted in differing
>> characteristics, capacities, and intelligence.  

>Distinct 'racial' characteristics can arise within a few generations if a
>small population is isolated and inbred. For the past 12,000 years, the
>period since the last ice age, the populations of Europe, Africa, and Asia
>have been intensely interacting. Even if isolated pockets exist, they have
>not been completely shut off from the outside world, as anyone who has
>studied the history of trade routes and the economic history of Eurasia
>knows. Before the continental ice sheet receded, human beings lived for
>tens of thousands of years on a much more compact territory, with all the
>possibilities this most have offered for intermixing.

Even the populations of Sweden, Norway, and Iceland, to name just a
few examples, demonstrate that the Northern Europeans of that region
have remained racially distinct despite whatever fictive "intense
interacting" you are referring to.  The fact is, much of this
population is still of pure Northern European stock which has no
African blood whatsoever in their veins.  If they had intermixed with
Negroes, their European societies would have regressed immediately to
the level of the jungle -- which is the virtually the only level of
"civilization" the Negro is capable of sustaining.

>> Consequently, these
>> differing races produced civilizations differing in level of
>> complexity and advancement.  For example, the White race ultimately
>> produced advanced modern technological societies, while the Negro race
>> has hardly moved beyond the Stone Age in most parts of Africa in which
>> the White man did not venture to.   

>Up until the Renaissance and the Age of Exploration which followed on its
>heels, human development was at approximately the same level, allowing for
>differences in climactic conditions, everywhere except Australia. 

This is false.  The European had such advanced developments such as
agricultural techniques and mathematics which were non-existent among
the Negroes in Africa.  Human development was -not- at the same level.
The European societies were progressing steadily while the Negro
societies remained primitive ( and still do).

>This is
>not to claim that there were not great disparities in both wealth and
>relative development throughout Eurasia, Africa, and the Americas. 

This contradicts your earlier claim that human development was
approximately at the same level.

>The
>five hundred years that have passed are but the blink of an eye compared
>to the preceding 1,750,000 years of human history. The great advances that
>Western Europeans made were not solely of their own doing: they required
>such nasties as genocide, unmitigated conquest ('manifest destiny'), slave
>labor, and colonialism. 

Regardless of what White advancements required, they were achieved
whereas Negroes progressed hardly at all, even despite the fact that
Negro tribes committed "nasties" on each other continually (and still
do) including genocide, cannibalism, and slavery -- including selling
their own people into slavery.  In fact, the White man stamped out
slavery in parts of Africa, only to see it return after he left.

>The Eastern Europeans, who did not participate in
>these activities and thus did not have these 'advantages', remained at a
>level having more in common with that of Africans and Asians than that of
>their 'racial brothers' in Western Europe until well into *this century*,
>this despite the fact that descendants of Western Europeans opened up
>lands they had conquered (USA, Canada, later South America and Australia)
>from others to Eastern European immigration more than a century ago, thus
>allowing Eastern Europe to divest itself of surplus population. The great
>disparities in economic and social develop which still result in Western
>Europe having a many times the wealth of Eastern Europe is not a
>consequence of racial factors (particularly if, you regard peoples like
>Russians, Ukrainians, Poles, Czehcs, Slovaks, Serbs, Croatians,
>Macedonians, Greeks, Hungarians, Albanians, Bulgarians, Moldovans,
>Armenians, Georgians, etc. as 'white' [remember that there are those among
>us who would be willing to consider them 'white' but not 'White', and
>would say that only 'Whites', more precisely White Anglo-Saxon
>Protestants, are racially, culturally, and intellectually superior), but
>rather of a uniquely favorable set of historical circumstances coupled
>with a distressing lack of empathy for one's fellow man. 

A primary difference is that Slavic peoples have already demonstrated
the capability to sustain advanced modern civilizations while Negroes
have not, even though Negroes sit on one of the most resource-rich
continents in the world.

>In some ways,
>it's kind of like the person who decides to rob the local bank and
>shamelessly flaunt his ill-gotten wealth because he's installed his cousin
>as the chief of police and hired enough of local people to do his menial
>tasks that enough of the money, originally theirs, trickles down for
>people not to want to disturb the status quo. Does the privileged status
>of such a person reflect in any way intellectual or moral superiority?

Whites produced Sir Isaac Newton, Wolfgang Mozart, and Nikolai Tesla
(from Croatia).  What comparable genius have the Negroes produced?
(And don't say George Washington Carver:   he is hardly of the same
rank as Newton or Mozart.)   Negro top-end intelligence is
non-existent.   Clearly there is a genetic basis for this differences
between the races, which reflects their differing evolutionary paths.

>> while the Negro race
>> has hardly moved beyond the Stone Age in most parts of Africa in which
>> the White man did not venture to.   

>In terms of overall human development the ability to produce complex,
>functioning urban societies with enough professional specialization to
>allow for surplus food production, self-maintenance over several
>centuries, and the emergence and perpetuation of a stratum of society able
>to devote itself fully to administration, art, and similar
>'non-productive' activities seems, in many ways, to be a more realistic
>measure of intellectual development than the development of a
>technological society, particularly since the development of a
>such a society has involved inputs from all over the world and was not
>solely a white or European creation. 

Then why isn't there a single first world Negro nation?  (or even a
second world one).  Don't tell me they don't have resources:   that
excuse does not apply.

>Nor, as we are slowly realizing, are
>the social displacement and environmental problems arising from a
>technological society necessarily 'good things'; their possible long-term
>consequences could be catastrophic and severely dysfunctional for human
>societal development as a whole. 

The issue of whether the technology is desirable is an entirely
different question to whether or not a race has the IQ and genetic
potnential to create or sustain technology.  So far, Negroes have not
been able to do so.  

>Complex urban civilizations fulfilling the above criteria arose in Europe,
>Asia Minor, South East Asia, Africa, South East Asia, and the Western
>Hemisphere all within the interval of a few thousand thousand years. 

Most of Negro Africa to this day lives in filthy primitive squalor.
And whenever the White man abandons the White civilization he created
in Africa it goes almost immediately back to the jungle.  Negroes
evidently cannot even sustain an advanced civilization even after the
White man hands it to him already fully built -- far less build it
himself.

>The
>neolithic civilizations of the upper Nile valley which preceded the 1st
>Egyptian dynasty, the Nok figurine culture (West Africa, ca. 500 BC), and
>the East African and Abyssinian Stone bowl industries culture of Kenya,
>possessed the necessary intellectual, organizational, and technological
>prerequisites for urban civilization. They formed the basis for the
>agricultural states which developed in the Sudan almost two thousand years
>ago and perhaps earlier, as well as for the great West African kingdoms of
>Ghana, Mali, and Songhai (flourished 3rd - 11th centuries AD). Other early
>African urban civilizations are known to have existed in the Congo River
>basin, along the Guinea coast, and around the great lakes of Eastern
>Africa.

Nowhere has any advanced first world Negro society EVER been found.  

>So, even if much of Africa is only now entering the age of technology,
>your claim that "the Negro race has hardly moved beyond the Stone Age in
>most parts of Africa" seem to indicate that your knowledge of Africa is
>derived primarily from Tarzan films. Africans were in possession of the
>political and organizational skills which are the prerequisites for the
>establishment of stable and sustainable urban cultures several thousand
>years ago. 

Actually your claim that Negroes are "now entering the age of
technology" is a sham.  Negroes are not entering the "age of
technology."  Whatever technology exists in Africa the White man put
there.  Even South Africa is regressing back towards the jungle now
that Black rule has been handed back over to Negroes.  Name a single
first world nation (or even second world nation) built by Negroes.


>> Since the races evolved differently, each has differing capacities,
>> abilities, gifts, and somatic traits.  

>Cognitive psychology reveals, for example, that all human beings have the
>identical cognitive apparatus (the same abilities to detect and react to
>specific types of sensory unputs); linguistics reveals that human
>languages have more in common than they have differentiating them, and
>that a child of
>any 'racial' background will learn any language to which it is exposed
>using the identical strategy and at rates of speed which can vary
>significantly with respect to different individuals, but not with respect to
>larger 'racial' groups.

If the races have "identical cognitive apparatus" then why do Negroes
continually score 15 IQ points lower on IQ tests?  The reason is not
cultural, which is the raison d'etre of the _The Bell Curve_.  Black
children with far greater cultural familiarity were significantly and
consistently outscored by Asian and Whites children.  Neither is the
reason for the difference nutrition, another myth _The Bell Curve_
debunks. 

>During the 12,000 years since the last ice age the people of Europe, Asia,
>and Africa, particularly northern Africa, have been in such close and
>intimate interaction with one another, that no clear racial lines can be
>discerned unless we contrast extremes: a dark Englishman has more in
>common with respect to hair texture, skin color, and other traits with a
>middle-to-dark Italian than he does with a light Englishman, a
>middle-to-dark Italian has more in common in these respect with a light
>Algerian than with a light Italian, a light Algerian more in common with
>te Italian than with a darker Algerian, a darker Algerian more in common
>with a light Moor than with a lighter Algerian, a light Moor more in
>common with the light Algerian than with a dark Moor, the dark Moor more
>in common with a light Fula than with a dark
>Fula, etc. etc. The same holds true going eastward with, let us say;
>English, French, German, Austrian, Hungarian, Romanian, Moldovan,
>Ukrainian, Kazakh, Tatar, Armenian, Azeri, Persian, Afghan, Indian,
>Nepali, Bangladeshi, Thai, Malay, Laotian, Vietnamese, Indonesian. With
>respect to his physical characteristics the lightest Englishman obviously
>differs from the darkest Indonesian. But between them there is an unbroken
>continuum, in which one set of phytsical charcateristics fades,
>imperceptibly, into another.

This is crap.  A Northern European is obviously and markedly different
>from  a Negro.  An Asian is markedly different from an African Pygmy or
Aborigine.  The original races can still be distinguished from each
other.  

And many those of European stock, including myself, do not wish for
what is left of that stock to be almalgamated out of existence.  That
is the goal of the National Alliance:   to separate those of European
stock from further genetic destruction.  There is still enough people
of pure European stock for the White race to continue, if it separates
itself.  This is our goal.

>> Yet there exists people unmixed from the original races. 

>Who? And where have they been hiding? Any person living today has 1024
>great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, grandparents. Are
>you seriously trying to tell us that with a genetic input that complex
>anyone, even ten generations back, could be 'unmixed from the original
>races', particularly since the ten generations assumed here is no more
>then three hundred years. If you claim that this is possible, let's add 5
>more generations: this gives you 32,768 (potential) ancestors. Never a
>rape, never an abduction, never a miscegenation, never a love-child in
>this vast input of genetic input? Go back a few more generations and the
>number of potetnial ancestors exceeds the number of human beings
>calculated to have existed (a few hundred thousand at the end of the
>last ice-age 12,000 years ago). This strongly implies that instead of 
>'unmixed people' existing from the 'original races', we don't have to go
>back too far before we find that each of us, no matter what our 'race' nor
>how
>'unmixed' we think it is, has common ancestors.

There are still enough of European stock to separate Whites from those
of other races.  Whites can then "wash out" whatever fractional traces
of other races through successive generations of Whites, mating in
racial isolation as they evolved in the beginning.

>> And many of
>> these people love and wish to preserve their unique racial
>> characteristics and have no wish to destroy them through racial
>> amalgamation.
>> 

>Responsible adults should have the right to mate and reproduce with
>whomever they decide to form a committed relationship. Period. If shared
>skin color or hair texture is the aspect of another human being that you
>value most highly, that's your business and more power to you. But what
>right do you have to prevent people, even your own children, who value
>other things, such as a compatable personality, intelligence, or an
>all-consuming common interest, from mating and reproducing with the person
>they choose in the name of 'racial purity'? In today's interconnected
>world people are finding 'soul mates' all over the world, and interracial
>relationships are more common than they have probably ever been before.
>Perhaps this might eventually mean the end of the racial groups that we
>know; it does not mean that other populations definable in terms of the
>probable co-occurrence of specific physical traits will not arise to take
>their place.

White interbreeding with Negroes destroys the White race and the
unique abilities of the White gene pool which are not present in the
Negro gene pool, as is obvious by their non-existent record of genius,
IQ, or modern advancement.  It destroys a unique race evolved through
hundreds of thousands of years, and replaces it with a mulatto mass
incapable of achieving even half of what the White race achieved.   It
is genocide and an incalculabe and irreplaceable loss.
 
>> Whatever Caucasoid blood may have existed in Japan has been largely
>> swallowed and "washed away" by Mongolian blood.  

>The Ainu subtratum is still evident in many of the inhabitants of
>Hokkaido, who are physically larger and fairer-skinned, and sometimes have
>blue or greenish eyes, unlike their more slightly built and darker
>compatriots to the south.

If they continue to intermix with more regular Asian stock (which they
will do) whatever White traces were there originally will be phased
out and destroyed -- which only confirms the fate of the White gene
pool if Whites continue to mix their race:  genocide.  

>> Although race-mixing has occurred in parts of the world, the peoples
>> of the world possess a natural and instinctive xenophobia which
>> forbids them to race-mix. 

>What a gross and false generalization! Any anthropologist will tell you
>that both endogamic and exogamic cultures exist: in endogamic cultures
>spouses must be taken from within the group, however defined; in exogamic
>culture spouses *must* be taken from outside the group. Cultures that are
>strictly endogamic over a long period of time eventually become so inbred,
>that they have to become exogamic or they degenerate and die off. 

What a load of bunk.  The White race has millions of people in it, and
there is absolutely ZERO chance of Whites dying off from "inbreeding"
if they separate their race.   The White race evolved wonderfully in
isolation:  evolving what is the world's most advanced race.  It is
only when Whites began to mix their race, that their societies began
to deteriorate and their extinction began to approach.

>> There is no comparable "grass is always
>> greener" instinct as this would contradict the engine of Nature and
>> evolution which is