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From: slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest Slepokura)
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Article 

by Robert Fisk of THE INDEPENDENT [London]: 

MASSACRE IN SANCTUARY; EYEWITNESS

By Robert Fisk
The Independent 4/19/96, page 1

Qana, southern Lebanon - It was a massacre. Not since Sabra and Chatila
had I seen the innocent slaughtered like this. The Lebanese refugee women
and children and men lay in heaps, their hands or arms or legs missing,
beheaded or disembowelled. There were well over a hundred of them. A baby
lay without a head. The Israeli shells had scythed through them as they
lay in the United Nations shelter, believing that they were safe under the
world's protection. Like the Muslims of Srebrenica, the Muslims of Qana
were wrong. 

In front of a burning building of the UN's Fijian battalion headquarters,
a girl held a corpse in her arms, the body of a grey- haired man whose
eyes were staring at her, and she rocked the corpse back and forth in her
arms, keening and weeping and crying the same words over and over: "My
father, my father." A Fijian UN soldier stood amid a sea of bodies and,
without saying a word, held aloft the body of a headless child.

"The Israelis have just told us they'll stop shelling the area," a UN
soldier said, shaking with anger. "Are we supposed to thank them?" In the
remains of a burning building - the conference room of the Fijian UN
headquarters - a pile of corpses was burning. The roof had crashed in
flames onto their bodies, cremating them in front of my eyes. When I
walked towards them, I slipped on a human hand... 

Israel's slaughter of civilians in this terrible 10-day offensive - 206 by
last night - has been so cavalier, so ferocious, that not a Lebanese will
forgive this massacre. There had been the ambulance attacked on Saturday,
the sisters killed in Yohmor the day before, the 2-year-old girl
decapitated by an Israeli missile four days ago. And earlier yesterday,
the Israelis had slaughtered a family of 12 - the youngest was a four-
day-old baby - when Israeli helicopter pilots fired missiles into their
home. 

Shortly afterwards, three Israeli jets dropped bombs only 250 metres from
a UN convoy on which I was travelling, blasting a house 30 feet into the
air in front of my eyes. Travelling back to Beirut to file my report on
the Qana massacre to the Independent last night, I found two Israeli
gunboats firing at the civilian cars on the river bridge north of Sidon.

Every foreign army comes to grief in Lebanon. The Sabra and Chatila
massacre of Palestinians by Israel's militia allies in 1982 doomed
Israel's 1982 invasion. Now the Israelis are stained again by the
bloodbath at Qana, the scruffy little Lebanese hill town where the
Lebanese believe Jesus turned water into wine. 

The Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres may now wish to end this war. But
the Hizbollah are not likely to let him. Israel is back in the Lebanese
quagmire. Nor will the Arab world forget yesterday'a terrible scenes.

The blood of all the refugees ran quite literally in streams from the
shell-smashed UN compound restaurant in which the Shiite Muslims from the
hill villages of southern Lebanon - who had heeded Israel's order to leave
their homes - had pathetically sought shelter. Fijian and French soldiers
heaved another group of dead - they lay with their arms tightly wrapped
around each other - into blankets.

A French UN trooper muttered oaths to himself as he opened a bag in which
he was dropping feet, fingers, pieces of people's arms. 

And as we walked through this obscenity, a swarm of people burst into the
compound. They had driven in wild convoys down from Tyre and began to pull
the blankets off the mutilated corpses of their mothers and sons and
daughters and to shriek "Allahu Akbar" (God is Great") and to threaten the
UN troops.

We had suddenly become not UN troops and journalists but Westerners,
Israel's allies, an object of hatred and venom. One bearded man with
fierce eyes stared at us, his face dark with fury. "You are Americans," he
screamed at us. "Americans are dogs. You did this. Americans are dogs."

President Bill Clinton has allied himself with Israel in its war against
"terrorism" and the Lebanese, in their grief, had not forgotten this.
Israel's official expression of sorrow was rubbing salt in their wounds.
"I would like to be made into a bomb and blow myself up amid the
Israelis," one old man said. 

As for the Hizbollah, which has repeatedly promised that Israelis will pay
for their killing of Lebanese civilians, its revenge cannot be long in
coming. Operation Grapes of Wrath may then turn out then to be all too
aptly named. 


[End of article]

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From: slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest Slepokura)
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Subject: Israeli atrocities in Lebanon [2]
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REALITY BITES AT QANA

By Robert Fisk
The Independent' - 4/22/96

Qana, Southern Lebanon

Herve de Charette's face was as white as death. The French Foreign
Minister, neatly clad in blue suit and tie, had gingerly walked through
the scene of last week's massacre at the UN's compound, nodding
diplomatically as the UN's Fijian commander described the 12 minutes in
which Israeli shells slaughtered up to 120 refugees, the sliced-up corpses
that his soldiers were forced to pick up, the difficulty in identifying
parts of the children who had been torn to pieces. Mr de Charette listened
with distaste. But then he was confronted by a survivor. 

Fawzaya Zrir, a small, frail woman in a scarf, simply walked up to the
French Foreign Minister and began talking to him with an odd mixture of
affection and anger. "For us, France is our mother and God is our father,"
she said in a flight of rhetoric that might have been written by the Quai
d'Orsay public relations men, who beamed happily at this fortunate
encounter.

Then things began to go wrong. "We have lived through hell," Mrs Zrir
continued. "The people were chopped into pieces by the Israeli bombs. They
bleed, these people. You should have seen the heads." 

At the French foreign minister's right, a Lebanese softly translated the
woman's dreadful words. The PR men began to look uneasy. "We have lived
here 40 years and now we are treated like animals," the woman cried. "Do
you know what the dogs did at night after the killings? They were hungry
and I saw them in the ruins eating fingers and pieces of our people." 

Mr de Charette stared at her as if he had seen a ghost. This had clearly
not been part of the programme, a schedule that was supposed to have
whisked the foreign minister from a light lunch at UN headquarters in
Naqqoura to a photo-opportunity on the roof of the wrecked UN battalion
HQ, a three-minutes press conference to give the impression of openness
and a swift drive back to the coast and a helicopter to Beirut -
everything, in fact, that would enhance France's much-trumpeted love for
Lebanon. Reality had very definitely not been part of the programme. 

A UN soldier was quite blunt about it. "This place is going to be turned
into one of those awful pilgrimage sites for the great and the good," he
muttered. "Boutros-Ghali sent his emissaries today to express their
horror. But they'll do no more than they did after Srebrenica. They'll
tut-tut and shrug it off. and they won't even have the guts to condemn
Israel even now - for this wickedness."

And indeed, the UN Secretary-General did send General Frank Van Kappen of
the Netherlands army - not, perhaps, a happy choice after the Dutch army's
disgrace at Srebrenica and he duly marched round the site of the worst
carnage, asking how many rounds landed, where the Katyusha missiles were
fired from and whether he could be shown this site to discover if any
Israeli shells bad fallen there.

He would be meeting with General Amnon lipkin Shahak, the Israeli chief of
staff, he said.

Yes, he would be asking to meet the soldiers who fired the fatal artillery
rounds - "fat chance of that," another UN soldier said as he listened to
all this - and with that, Van Kappen, an immense figure in his steel flak
jacket and huge helmet clanked out of the compound with a colonel from the
Royal Engineers.

Mr de Charette was even more gentle of spirit. What had happened on
Thursday was 'unfortunate", an event for which France wished to show its
sympathy for the Lebanese. So how did it rank in the scale of civilian
atrocities? How did it rank, for example, beside the Sarajevo market
massacre?

"Frankly," the Foreign Minister replied sharply, "I have not had an
opportunity to make categories of unhappiness we have to work to do is to
make it impossible for this to happen in the future in Lebanon." And so
say all of us. Did he believe Israel had given sufficient explanation of
the massacre? "I hear there is an inquiry we have to await the result." 

The problem, however is that neither America nor Europe are going to
condemn a country which pounded refugees of Qana with 155mm shells for 12
minutes; and such condemnation is about the only palliative that the
Lebanese might accept for the moment.

And you can see their point. On the coast road back to Beirut last night
there were burning cars, civilians deliberately targeted by Israeli
warships north of Sidon, three of whom had been badly wounded. Had this
being a Syrian warship shelling Israeli civilians on the Haifa-Tel Aviv
road, of course, Mr Clinton himself would have deplored--rightly--an act
of "international terrorism".

But not a word of criticism about this scandalous targeting of Lebanese
civilians was uttered by the foreign ministers of America, Russia, France
and Italy as they sought to bring an end to an apparently unstoppable
war."

[End of article]

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From slepokuo@cadvision.com Wed May  1 10:32:09 PDT 1996
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In article <317EF819.39E6@cannet.com>, "Fr. John W. Morris +"
 wrote:

> George A. Rozes Jr. wrote:
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Whether you saw it or not, I am increasingly convinced of your total
> > ignorance of the facts of this horrible history.
> > Your comparison of Zionism with National Socialism is an affront and a
> > ridiculous statement.

___________________________________________

It's not ridiculous at all. In fact, intimate geopolitical ties between
Israel and the apartheid regime in South Africa, based on a natural
affinity of one for the other, are very well-documented. For example:

When the South African prime minister, John Vorster, paid an official
visit to Israel in April, 1976, it naturally included a tour of Yad
Vashem, the Holocaust memorial in Jerusalem, where the late Yitzhak Rabin
and other Jewish officials invited Vorster, a onetime Nazi collaborator
and an implacable white supremacist, to pay homage to victims of the
Holocaust.

Vorster remained 4 days in Israel brokering deals between his racist
regime and a number of Israeli institutions. Leslie and Andrew Cockburn
write [Dangerous Liaisons, Stoddart: Toronto,  1991, pp. 299-300]: "The
old Nazi sympathizer came away with bilateral agreements for commercial,
military and nuclear cooperation that would become the basis for future
relations between the two countries."

Orest Slepokura

___________________________________________


>  PAY ATTENTION FATHER; THE PALESTINIAN
> > MANIFESTO CONTINUES TO REQUIRE THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL.  IS THIS
> > PEACE??????
> 
> You should check the news. The Palestinian Council voted today (April 24, 
> 1996) to change its manifesto to remove those portions calling for the 
> destruction of Israel and to recognize the right of Israel to exist. 
> 
> > George, a devoted Orthodox Christian who wishes that priests would preach
> > Christ, and not politics.
> 
> Orthodox Christians should also be concerned with peace and justice. The 
> Israelis are killing Orthodox Christians in Lebanon. 
> 
> Fr. John +

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In article <317EF819.39E6@cannet.com>, "Fr. John W. Morris +"
 wrote:

> George A. Rozes Jr. wrote:
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Whether you saw it or not, I am increasingly convinced of your total
> > ignorance of the facts of this horrible history.
> > Your comparison of Zionism with National Socialism is an affront and a
> > ridiculous statement.

___________________________________________

It's not ridiculous at all. In fact, intimate geopolitical ties between
Israel and the apartheid regime in South Africa, based on a natural
affinity of one for the other, are very well-documented. For example:

When the South African prime minister, John Vorster, paid an official
visit to Israel in April, 1976, it naturally included a tour of Yad
Vashem, the Holocaust memorial in Jerusalem, where the late Yitzhak Rabin
and other Jewish officials invited Vorster, a onetime Nazi collaborator
and an implacable white supremacist, to pay homage to victims of the
Holocaust.

Vorster remained 4 days in Israel brokering deals between his racist
regime and a number of Israeli institutions. Leslie and Andrew Cockburn
write [Dangerous Liaisons, Stoddart: Toronto,  1991, pp. 299-300]: "The
old Nazi sympathizer came away with bilateral agreements for commercial,
military and nuclear cooperation that would become the basis for future
relations between the two countries."

Orest Slepokura

___________________________________________


>  PAY ATTENTION FATHER; THE PALESTINIAN
> > MANIFESTO CONTINUES TO REQUIRE THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL.  IS THIS
> > PEACE??????
> 
> You should check the news. The Palestinian Council voted today (April 24, 
> 1996) to change its manifesto to remove those portions calling for the 
> destruction of Israel and to recognize the right of Israel to exist. 
> 
> > George, a devoted Orthodox Christian who wishes that priests would preach
> > Christ, and not politics.
> 
> Orthodox Christians should also be concerned with peace and justice. The 
> Israelis are killing Orthodox Christians in Lebanon. 
> 
> Fr. John +

-- 
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From slepokuo@cadvision.com Thu May  2 06:39:46 PDT 1996
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In article <317EF819.39E6@cannet.com>, "Fr. John W. Morris +"
 wrote:

> George A. Rozes Jr. wrote:
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Whether you saw it or not, I am increasingly convinced of your total
> > ignorance of the facts of this horrible history.
> > Your comparison of Zionism with National Socialism is an affront and a
> > ridiculous statement.

___________________________________________

It's not ridiculous at all. In fact, intimate geopolitical ties between
Israel and the apartheid regime in South Africa, based on a natural
affinity of one for the other, are very well-documented. For example:

When the South African prime minister, John Vorster, paid an official
visit to Israel in April, 1976, it naturally included a tour of Yad
Vashem, the Holocaust memorial in Jerusalem, where the late Yitzhak Rabin
and other Jewish officials invited Vorster, a onetime Nazi collaborator
and an implacable white supremacist, to pay homage to victims of the
Holocaust.

Vorster remained 4 days in Israel brokering deals between his racist
regime and a number of Israeli institutions. Leslie and Andrew Cockburn
write [Dangerous Liaisons, Stoddart: Toronto,  1991, pp. 299-300]: "The
old Nazi sympathizer came away with bilateral agreements for commercial,
military and nuclear cooperation that would become the basis for future
relations between the two countries."

Orest Slepokura

___________________________________________


>  PAY ATTENTION FATHER; THE PALESTINIAN
> > MANIFESTO CONTINUES TO REQUIRE THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL.  IS THIS
> > PEACE??????
> 
> You should check the news. The Palestinian Council voted today (April 24, 
> 1996) to change its manifesto to remove those portions calling for the 
> destruction of Israel and to recognize the right of Israel to exist. 
> 
> > George, a devoted Orthodox Christian who wishes that priests would preach
> > Christ, and not politics.
> 
> Orthodox Christians should also be concerned with peace and justice. The 
> Israelis are killing Orthodox Christians in Lebanon. 
> 
> Fr. John +

-- 
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In article <317EF819.39E6@cannet.com>, "Fr. John W. Morris +"
 wrote:

> George A. Rozes Jr. wrote:
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Whether you saw it or not, I am increasingly convinced of your total
> > ignorance of the facts of this horrible history.
> > Your comparison of Zionism with National Socialism is an affront and a
> > ridiculous statement.

___________________________________________

It's not ridiculous at all. In fact, intimate geopolitical ties between
Israel and the apartheid regime in South Africa, based on a natural
affinity of one for the other, are very well-documented. For example:

When the South African prime minister, John Vorster, paid an official
visit to Israel in April, 1976, it naturally included a tour of Yad
Vashem, the Holocaust memorial in Jerusalem, where the late Yitzhak Rabin
and other Jewish officials invited Vorster, a onetime Nazi collaborator
and an implacable white supremacist, to pay homage to victims of the
Holocaust.

Vorster remained 4 days in Israel brokering deals between his racist
regime and a number of Israeli institutions. Leslie and Andrew Cockburn
write [Dangerous Liaisons, Stoddart: Toronto,  1991, pp. 299-300]: "The
old Nazi sympathizer came away with bilateral agreements for commercial,
military and nuclear cooperation that would become the basis for future
relations between the two countries."

Orest Slepokura

___________________________________________


>  PAY ATTENTION FATHER; THE PALESTINIAN
> > MANIFESTO CONTINUES TO REQUIRE THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL.  IS THIS
> > PEACE??????
> 
> You should check the news. The Palestinian Council voted today (April 24, 
> 1996) to change its manifesto to remove those portions calling for the 
> destruction of Israel and to recognize the right of Israel to exist. 
> 
> > George, a devoted Orthodox Christian who wishes that priests would preach
> > Christ, and not politics.
> 
> Orthodox Christians should also be concerned with peace and justice. The 
> Israelis are killing Orthodox Christians in Lebanon. 
> 
> Fr. John +

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Back to the Front Line 

by Lara Marlowe [SHAQRA]

[Time magazine, May 13/96]

As soon as the cease-fire took effect, hundreds of thousands of Lebanese
Shi'ites streamed home; the last leg of the journey, inland from Tyre,
presented an eerie pageant of beauty and destruction. Roses spilled over
garden walls surrounding flattened houses. Olive groves shimmered
silver-green in the sunshine, but the verdant hills were gashed by new
bomb craters, the roads and the bridges broken. A noxious odor rose from
lush fields where livestock cut down in the bombardments lay rotting.

The returning refugees of Shaqra noted all this with somber faces, knowing
their pro-Hizbollah village had been specially targeted. They passed the
bombed-out water reservoir at Sultaniyeh, 6 km from home, and they knew
there would be no running water. They saw the electricity pylons downed by
Israeli helicopters, and they knew there would be no power. They entered
Shaqra and found the main road obstructed by tons of debris; it took four
days to clear the passage for cars. In all, 10 buildings were destroyed,
200 others badly damaged.

Yet life resumed quickly in the village of 7,000. Storefronts were blown
out, but merchants opened for business. Broken glass was swept into piles.
Men heaved chunks of concrete into dump trucks for removal. Women washed
dishes and children bathed in the contaminated irrigation pond. The Beirut
government, eager to consolidate Lebanon's newfound unity, sent
technicians to repair the damage.

Although Shaqra paid a high price for defiance, its people were proud that
local Hizbollah guerrillas kept firing Katyusha rockets at Israel
throughout the 16-day battle. Shaqra is on the edge of the
Israeli-occupied zone, and many of its residents are cut off from their
land and relatives by the occupation. Their anger has simmered since
Israel invaded Lebanon 18 years ago. Dozens of Shaqra men have died
fighting the Israelis. Still more have been imprisoned in the Israeli-held
area. Under constant surveillance from Israeli military compounds on
surrounding hilltops, Shaqra has been a frequent staging ground for
Katyusha attacks on Qiryat Shemona, less than 10 km to the east in
Israel's Galilee panhandle.

At least two Hizbollah guerrillas from Shaqra died in the April
bombardments, and four civilians were badly wounded. Yet despite such
suffering, there was little sorrow or despair expressed in Shaqra. Rage
toward Israel and its American ally submerged other emotions. "Israel and
America are signing a new defense pact this week," says Ossama Ismail, 26,
a civil defense worker who helped evacuate the dead and wounded after
Israel's April 18 bombardment of Qana, 16 km west of Shaqra. "Don't people
realize these weapons will be used on us? My 65-year-old uncle was feeding
his cows when an Israeli helicopter fired a rocket at him. The pilot saw
my uncle. He saw the cow shed. And he still fired and wounded him. Why?"

Six Hizbolah guerrillas talked to TIME in the cramped living room of a
house in Shaqra. Women in long robes and head scarves served coffee and
sticky pastries. A small blond girl climbed onto her father's lap while he
spoke to other Hizbollah fighters  over a walkie-talkie. Israel considers
these men "terrorists." But the Lebanese say Hizbollah is a resistance
movement, fighting to liberate swoutern Lebanon from Israeli occupation.
When they are not fighting the Israelis, the same men work as
electricians, construction workers or farmers. This blurred line between
civilians and guerrillas frustrates Israel.

The guerrillas recalled the deaths of two Shaqra girls, Amal Marouni, 12,
and Joumana Fahas, 17. Both were killed when Israeli artillery fired on
the village without warning last year.  "The West hears about this war
only when we fire Katyushas," complained a guerrilla. "But when Israel
attacks our civilians, nobody reports it."  The men said they would
respect the cease-fire prohibition on Katyushas as long as Israel does not
harm Lebanese civilians. But they intend to step up ambushes and suicide
bombings against Israeli troops in the occupied zone--tactics that have
claimed the lives of 77 Israeli soldiers in Lebanon since 1993. Hizbollah
wants revenge for the deaths of more than 160 Lebanese in the April
onslaught. "The Israeli armed forces martyred our people," says a
guerrilla.

At Qana, where more than 100 civilians were killed on April 18, tens of
thousands gathered to pour out their sorrow. Israel said the attack on the
U.N. post where refugees were sheltering was a mistake. The Lebanese don't
believe them. YOU ARE DAMNED FOREVER, ISRAEL, read a banner at last week's
funeral. Amid wrenching scenes of grief, coffins were passed on a sea of
hands to the mass grave. The burial ground and adjacent U.N. compound have
become a place of pilgrimage, visited by thousands of Lebanese every day.

Investigations into the Qana massacre may turn out badly for Israel. A
preliminary study by the U.N. concluded that Israeli armed forces
deliberately targeted the U.N. compound. An amateur videotape of the
bombardment proved that an Israeli reconnaisance drone, which should have
shown the Israelis exactly what they were firing at, was present during
the shelling.

[End]

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FROM: 

THE CALGARY HERALD
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
JERUSALEM
MONDAY, MAY 6, 1996

                             Museum under attack


Israel's national Holocaust museum is under attack from some death camp
survivors for charging a fee for individual memorials to those who
perished.

For between $500 and $1,500, the Yad Vashem museum will inscribe memorial
stones with the names of victims of the Nazi genocide. The amount depends
on the size of the stone.

"This is enraging," said Daniel Chanoch, 63, who survived the Auschwitz
and Dachau death camps.

"Those who have no money will not be memorialized. It is just like in the
ghettos: Those who had no money were the first ones sent to the gas
chambers."

[End of article]

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From: The Globe and Mail [p. A 11]
Saturday, May 18, 1996


          Official sought to influence war-crimes deportation cases

    Improper meeting with judge violated rights of accused, lawyers say


                     by Kirk Makin [Justice Reporter]


TORONTO - An attempt by a senior federal bureaucrat to influence a judge
presiding over three nazi war-crimes deportation cases was not harmful
enough to warrant halting the actions, a federal prosecutor argued
yesterday.

"Where there is an attack upon the conduct of the Chief Justice of this
court, it is not sufficient to simply point to an isolated incident,"
prosecutor Christopher Amerasinghe told a Federal Court of Canada hearing.

The incident involved assistant deputy justice minister J.E. (Ted)
Thompson's private meeting with Chief Justice Julius Isaac of the Federal
Court to criticize the conduct of the presiding judge, Associate Chief
Justice James Jerome.

Judge Jerome removed himself from the case two weeks ago and has been
replaced by Mr. Justice Bud Cullen.

In an exchange of letters after their March 1 meeting, Mr. Thompson warned
Judge Isaac that the government would seek a reference to the Supreme
Court of Canada if the deportation cases didn't begin to move faster.

He wrote that this dramatic course of action was being contemplated
"primarily because the Federal Court Trial Division is unable or unwilling
to proceed with the subject cases expeditiously."

Donald Bayne, a lawyer who represents Johann Dueck, who is accused of war
crimes, said in an interview yesterday that Mr. Thompson's choice of words
reveals a flagrant attempt to undermine Judge Jerome and influence the
case. He said it implies that the judge purposely shirked what he knew to
be proper rulings.

Mr. Bayne and two colleagues who represent Helmut Overlander and Erichs
Tobiass have urged the court to stay proceedings against the three men on
the basis that the improper meeting violated their right to a fair
hearing.

"I believe this is the worst case in Canadian history of improper backroom
interference with judicial independence," Mr. Bayne said outside the
Toronto courtroom where the motion is being heard.

"It was an attempt to pressure him to change his approach - and it
worked," he said. "You cannot run a case based on a threat to take a
reference to the Supreme Court of Canada. They have to answer for this. It
is an outrage to democracy."

Mr. Amerasinghe told Judge Cullen earlier yesterday, however, that it was
only through inadvertence that his opponents were not present at the
meeting or informed immediately that it had taken place.

Even so, he acknowledged that the incident was highly unusual.

"The fact it has not happened before does not make it more terrible than
it actually is," Mr. Amerasinghe argued. "Has the process in these cases
been tainted to such a degree by the conduct that took place that it would
tarnish the integrity of the court to allow them to proceed?"

Proceedings against the three elderly men began almost 18 months ago.  It
was the latest move in a largely unsuccessful campaign by the government
to bring to justice war criminals from the Second World War.

The government alleges that the three lied to get into Canada, effectively
disguising participation in acts of genocide in Nazi-occupied Europe.

Mr. Bayne said unless there is an outcry against what has taken place, it
can only mean people are willing to accept any affront to democracy and
judicial tradition in the name of catching alleged war criminals.

"The quality of a democracy is judged by how you treat your least popular
people," he said.

Equally important, he continued, is the principle that the government has
no greater status before a court than any ordinary citizen.

"Can you imagine an ordinary Canadian walking into the office of the Chief
Judge to complain that he should intervene with a judge - and without them
telling the other side?" he asked.

"Mr. Thompson is not only a member of the executive branch, but he is
counsel for one of the parties," Mr. Bayne said. "You have to protect the
judiciary against any backroom attempts by government to influence it."

In his letter to Chief Judge Isaac after their meeting, Mr. Thompson noted
that several potential witnesses in the deportation cases had become
seriously ill.

"As you know, there is great public interest in seeing these case disposed
of on their merits, and the potential for embarrassment is very high
should it be seen that the justice system is unable to respond to these
urgent cases in a timely way," he wrote. "I would appreciate any
assistance you can offer."

Chief Justice Isaac acted immediately. Later the same day, he wrote to Mr.
Thompson that he had spoken to Judge Jerome, "and like me, he is prepared
to take all reasonable steps to avoid a reference to the Supreme Court of
Canada on these matters."

Chief Justice Isaac said that in the light of Mr. Thompson's concerns,
Judge Jerome had undertaken that in future he would treat such deportation
cases as a "highest priority."

The Chief Judge said Judge Jerome explained to him that "he did not
appreciate until he read your letter the urgency of dealing with these
matters as expeditiously as the government would like."

Mr. Bayne said Mr. Thomposon's approach to the Chief Judge Isaac was
apparently prompted by the government's having lost four important motions
before Judge Jerome:

– A defence motion asking that portions of the three deportation cases be
heard together.

– A motion in which the government asked the judge to dismiss summarily an
attempt to stay the proceedings because deportation proceedings were
nothing more than a way of doing an end run around procedural guarantees
contained in actual war-crimes legislation.

– A defence motion asking for the disclosure of certain documents.

– A government motion that portions of the proceedings be handled solely
through written submissions rather than with the addition of oral
argument.

Mr. Bayne said it is shocking that Chief Judge Isaac would not simply have
shown Mr. Thompson the door the moment it became clear that he had come to
discuss particular cases on the day they met.

"The chief judge didn't say: 'I can't talk to you,' as any law student
would know he must," Mr. Bayne said. "Instead, he invites him to go on.
Did Chief Justice Isaac not notice that the respondents were not there;
that all of this was going on in private?"

Mr. Bayne learned of the meeting about a week after it took place, when
Mr. Amerasinghe sent him copies of the correspondence.

Mr. Bayne speculated in the interview that the government may have been
hoping to cut its losses by coming clean before word of the meeting leaked
out. "I think it was like a bomb going off, and they thought: 'What have
you done, Ted?'" Mr. Bayne said.

Mr. Bayne said it is particularly upsetting that, with Judge Jerome's
removal of himself from the case, the government has ultimately gained
more than it had hoped for.

He said the biggest outstanding question is whether Mr. Thompson acted on
his own initiative in trying to influence the judges.

Mr. Bayne said the sanctity of the judicial process is evident in a quote
>from  a Supreme Court of Canada decision written by former chief justice
Brian Dickson: "No outsider - be it government, pressure group, individual
or even another judge - should interfere in fact or attempt to interfere
with the way in which a judge conducts his or her case or makes his or her
decision. This core continues to be central to the principle of judicial
independence."

In documents filed with the court, Mr. Amerhasinghe also maintains that
lawyers for the three accused men have consistently tried to drag out the
case.

Mr. Bayne retorted that even as government lawyers keep referring to their
desire to expedite matters, their refusal to disclose documents and
witness lists has actually lengthened the case substantially.

In a letter sent on Aug. 10, 1995, and echoed in subsequent letters, Mr.
Bayne wrote to Mr. Amerasinghe: "I should have thought that you would be
doing everything to expedite proceedings in this matter, but instead we
are eight months into this case with no idea of what witness will
purportedly give what evidence."

Mr. Amerasinghe countered that since deportation is a civil proceeding,
there are no strict requirements to disclose evidence as there are in
criminal proceedings.

The case has been adjourned until June 12.

[End]

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FROM: THE CALGARY HERALD
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
JERUSALEM
MONDAY, MAY 6, 1996

                             Museum under attack


Israel's national Holocaust museum is under attack from some death camp
survivors for charging a fee for individual memorials to those who
perished.

For between $500 and $1,500, the Yad Vashem museum will inscribe memorial
stones with the names of victims of the Nazi genocide. The amount depends
on the size of the stone.

"This is enraging," said Daniel Chanoch, 63, who survived the Auschwitz
and Dachau death camps.

"Those who have no money will not be memorialized. It is just like in the
ghettos: Those who had no money were the first ones sent to the gas
chambers."

[End of article]

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