From alaska.net!schoedel Sun Jun 9 19:14:53 1996 Return-Path:Received: by nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uSwVH-0000uMC; Sun, 9 Jun 96 19:14 PDT Received: from MIT.EDU (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU) by nizkor.almanac.bc.ca ; 9 JUN 96 19:14:39 PDT Received: from MIT.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA25615; Sun, 9 Jun 96 22:08:37 EDT Received: from crc6.cris.com by MIT.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA08466; Sun, 9 Jun 96 22:09:41 EDT Message-Id: <9606100209.AA08466@MIT.MIT.EDU> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 96 03:12:00 0500 From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" Organization: none X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Macintosh; I; 68K) Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.guns,alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.politics.usa.newt-gingrich,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.usa.constitution,alt.politics.usa.congress,alt.politics.reform,alt.politics.radical-l To: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca Subject: Three Questions for McVay...Round ? References: <4ouvhq$9th@crl.crl.com> <4pc3o5$6im@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca> <31BA8CC7.675A@ix.netcom.com> <4pf40u$loe@tribune.concentric.net> <4pfd9e$mit@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca> X-Url: news:4pfd9e$mit@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote: Round three...ding! >Mr. Schoedel: > >In your short time here on the net, you have established yourself as both >a liar and fraud. Pot...kettle...black... Moving on though, >Although I doubt you have the courage to admit >to your lies, I think you are entitled to an opportunity to address >them. I will retract anything proved to be false, because I am indeed a fallible individual. But just because McVay or his cronies say something is true does not make it so. >Surely you can understand, in your capacity as the >manager of a public broadcasting station, the importance of >accuracy in reporting, Indeed, very true. Though I have resigned that job in Alaska, I expect to assume a new job as news director in Ohio soon. >although it would seem that the concept >is unclear in your mind, and further education is required. >It is to assist you in this educational process that I confront you >with your lies. Go for it... >Question One > Since it is demonstrably false that I am a draft dodger, > and since I am an honorably discharged U.S. Marine, perhaps > you will explain this particular lie, particularly in light of > your "deeply-held faith in God," and the Biblical injunction > "Thou shalt not bear false witness." After you have > explained why you have libeled me, please retract your lie. Prove you are an honourably discharged U.S. Marine. Then, if I am wrong, I will retract this statement. Then, you can discontinue and publicly aplogize for your libeling of me and my faith in God. > Question Two: What evidence do you have that I advocate > censorship of the InterNet, or that I am "against free > speech on the net"? Your very existence on the net is witness enough against you and your ideas on free speech. Answer me this, DO YOU SUPPORT THE RIGHTS OF RACISTS OR ANTI-SEMITES TO FREE, UNHINDERED, SPEECH? I'll be awaiting your answer. > Question Three: Please tell us why you have stated that I > am a Jew. Since that statement is incorrect, and known to > be incorrect, please explain why you have made it. You are what is known as a PROSELYTE, McVay. Sure you may not be jewish ethnically, but you have adopted their religious cause as yours. That makes you a PROSELYTE. >Question Four >------------- > > On September 23, 1995, you made the following assertion: > > "Negresses are not of the same species as Human Males and > Females, thus, not to be engaged with in sexual relations." > (Schoedel, Mating) > > Please provide evidence for this (baseless) assertion, or > retract it. Homo europaeaus, white man. Homo africanus, one species of black man, among several. Homo americanus, some of the native American races. (and the most recent discovery: Homo doofus, Mr. McVay.) Unfortunately, the vast majority of my library is in transit from Alaska to Ohio, so I am unable to locate the books and references to back this up. But if you look through your own archives of my posts, you'll find them, for I have cited them before. I trust you will have the time to do so, seeing as how you are able to find the time to pick through the archive looking for those certain out-of-context statements you so love to quote. No credible scientist before the era of civil rights and equality would ever have suggested that all races are the same species. So now, McVay, will you be content with these answers, or will you find something else to whine about? And I do await your answers to my queries for you, as well. Cheers, Rev. Ron http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel From alaska.net!schoedel Sun Jun 9 19:41:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: by nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uSwuj-0001mrC; Sun, 9 Jun 96 19:41 PDT Received: from alaska.net (calvino.alaska.net) by nizkor.almanac.bc.ca ; 9 JUN 96 19:40:55 PDT Received: from [192.0.2.1] (crc6.cris.com) by alaska.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA12675; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 18:36:16 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 22:38:20 -0500 To: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) From: schoedel@alaska.net (Ronald C. Schoedel, III) Subject: Re: Three Questions for McVay...Round ? Why did you resend the same thing again? - - Ronald C. Schoedel, III * schoedel@alaska.net Patriotic Resistance and Bible Truth, on the web at http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel PATRICK BUCHANAN FOR PRESIDENT: Ask for info on how to get Buchanan on the ballot in your state as an independent canidate this November. GO PAT GO! http://www.buchanan.org DAVID DUKE FOR U.S. SENATE: Louisiana has a good chance to put Dave Duke in the U.S. Senate, where he will work hard fighting for ALL White Americans. Support Dave in any way you can, and be sure to check out his website at http://duke.org From alaska.net!schoedel Sun Jun 9 22:11:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: by nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uSzG7-00030wC; Sun, 9 Jun 96 22:11 PDT Received: from alaska.net (calvino.alaska.net) by nizkor.almanac.bc.ca ; 9 JUN 96 22:08:55 PDT Received: from [192.0.2.1] (crc6.cris.com) by alaska.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA22306; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 19:08:27 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 23:10:31 -0500 To: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) From: schoedel@alaska.net (Ronald C. Schoedel, III) Subject: Re: Three Questions for McVay...Round ? Two can play at this game...You've got my answers, take 'em or leave 'em, I don't care either way. At 19:41 09-06-96, Ken McVay OBC wrote: >>Why did you resend the same thing again? > >>- - > >>Ronald C. Schoedel, III * schoedel@alaska.net > >>Patriotic Resistance and Bible Truth, on the web at >>http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel > >>PATRICK BUCHANAN FOR PRESIDENT: Ask for info on how to get Buchanan on the >>ballot in your state as an independent canidate this November. GO PAT GO! >>http://www.buchanan.org > >>DAVID DUKE FOR U.S. SENATE: Louisiana has a good chance to put Dave Duke in >>the U.S. Senate, where he will work hard fighting for ALL White Americans. >>Support Dave in any way you can, and be sure to check out his website at >>http://duke.org > > >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.politics.white-power >Subject: Three Questions for Ronald Schoedel (Round 3) >Summary: Mr. Schoedel, of KRUP-FM, Dillingham, a demonstrable liar, > is asked to retract his lies or support them with evidence. > (He is unlikely to do either, in common with others of his breed.) > >Mr. Schoedel: > >In your short time here on the net, you have established yourself as both >a liar and fraud. Although I doubt you have the courage to admit >to your lies, I think you are entitled to an opportunity to address >them. Surely you can understand, in your capacity as the >manager of a public broadcasting station, the importance of >accuracy in reporting, although it would seem that the concept >is unclear in your mind, and further education is required. >It is to assist you in this educational process that I confront you >with your lies. > >Question One >------------ > > On January 2, 1996, you included the following statement in > an article discussing the Nizkor web: > > In addition to his stalking and spying, he could apologise for > slurring my professional abilities and my professions in general, > not to mention my deeply-held faith in God, which I am afraid some > doped-out looking draft dodger like Kenny would know nothing about. > (schoedel, Zinkor) > > Since it is demonstrably false that I am a draft dodger, > and since I am an honorably discharged U.S. Marine, perhaps > you will explain this particular lie, particularly in light of > your "deeply-held faith in God," and the Biblical injunction > "Thou shalt not bear false witness." After you have > explained why you have libeled me, please retract your lie. > > (Folks in Alaska might find your "deeply-held faith in God" > somewhat of a misnomer, after reading your sorry UseNet articles at > http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald) > >Questions Two and Three >----------------------- > > On December 30, 1995, you included the following paragraphs > within two UseNet articles: > > "Or by self-appointed net censors like Kenny McVay, who would > love to see your freedoms taken from you.... > > If so, you are exactly the kind of person Kenny McVay would > like to silence" (Schoedel, Compuserve) > > "Just a question for you sir. Do you believe that net access > and free speech should be available to all people irrespective > of political views? Some of your fellow jews, such as one > Fresh816 (Andy Mathis) and one Kenny McVay are ardently against > free speech on the net..."(Schoedel, Wanted) > > Question Two: What evidence do you have that I advocate > censorship of the InterNet, or that I am "against free > speech on the net"? You may demonstrate that your statements > are correct by citing a single UseNet article that I have > posted, or a single press article concerning me or my work, > or by a single report, organizational or government, which > supports your claim. If you cannot do that, and you cannot, > then will you retract your libel? > > Question Three: Please tell us why you have stated that I > am a Jew. Since that statement is incorrect, and known to > be incorrect, please explain why you have made it. > >Question Four >------------- > > On September 23, 1995, you made the following assertion: > > "Negresses are not of the same species as Human Males and > Females, thus, not to be engaged with in sexual relations." > (Schoedel, Mating) > > Please provide evidence for this (baseless) assertion, or > retract it. > > Work Cited > > Schoedel, Ronald. UseNet alt.politics.white-power. Subject: "More > on inter-species mating," Sept. 23, 1995. Message-ID: > 441jng$7rf@warp.cris.com. Archived within URL >http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/1995/schoe >del.0995 > > ----------------. UseNet alt.politics.white.power. Subject: > "Zinkor Wackiness!" Jan. 2, 1996. Message-ID: > 4ccdr3$3ev@newsbf02.news.aol.com Archived within URL >http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/schoedel.0196 > > ----------------. UseNet rec.music.country.western,alt.conspiracy, > soc.culture.jewish,alt.culture.alaska,alt.food.dennys, > alt.fan.barry-manilow. Subject: "Re: Compuserve Bans > alt.conspiracy in Germany/US Next?," Dec. 30, 1995. Message-ID: > 4c2eio$gvb@spectator.cris.com. Archived within URL >http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/1995/schoe >del.1295 > > ----------------. UseNet soc.culture.jewish. Subject: "Re: Wanted: > members for Families Against Internet Censorship," Dec. 30, > 1995. Message-ID: 4c2gi8$gvb@spectator.cris.com. Archived within URL >http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/1995/schoe >del.1295 Date: Sun, 9 Jun 96 19:14 PDT From: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) To: schoedel@alaska.net Subject: Re: Three Questions for McVay...Round ? >kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote: >Round three...ding! >>Mr. Schoedel: >> >>In your short time here on the net, you have established yourself as both >>a liar and fraud. >Pot...kettle...black... Moving on though, >>Although I doubt you have the courage to admit >>to your lies, I think you are entitled to an opportunity to address >>them. >I will retract anything proved to be false, because I am indeed a >fallible individual. But just because McVay or his cronies say >something is true does not make it so. >>Surely you can understand, in your capacity as the >>manager of a public broadcasting station, the importance of >>accuracy in reporting, >Indeed, very true. Though I have resigned that job in Alaska, >I expect to assume a new job as news director in Ohio soon. >>although it would seem that the concept >>is unclear in your mind, and further education is required. >>It is to assist you in this educational process that I confront you >>with your lies. >Go for it... >>Question One >> Since it is demonstrably false that I am a draft dodger, >> and since I am an honorably discharged U.S. Marine, perhaps >> you will explain this particular lie, particularly in light of >> your "deeply-held faith in God," and the Biblical injunction >> "Thou shalt not bear false witness." After you have >> explained why you have libeled me, please retract your lie. >Prove you are an honourably discharged U.S. Marine. Then, if I am >wrong, I will retract this statement. Then, you can discontinue and >publicly aplogize for your libeling of me and my faith in God. >> Question Two: What evidence do you have that I advocate >> censorship of the InterNet, or that I am "against free >> speech on the net"? >Your very existence on the net is witness enough against you and your >ideas on free speech. Answer me this, DO YOU SUPPORT THE RIGHTS OF >RACISTS OR ANTI-SEMITES TO FREE, UNHINDERED, SPEECH? >I'll be awaiting your answer. >> Question Three: Please tell us why you have stated that I >> am a Jew. Since that statement is incorrect, and known to >> be incorrect, please explain why you have made it. >You are what is known as a PROSELYTE, McVay. Sure you may not be jewish >ethnically, but you have adopted their religious cause as yours. That >makes you a PROSELYTE. >>Question Four >>------------- >> >> On September 23, 1995, you made the following assertion: >> >> "Negresses are not of the same species as Human Males and >> Females, thus, not to be engaged with in sexual relations." >> (Schoedel, Mating) >> >> Please provide evidence for this (baseless) assertion, or >> retract it. >Homo europaeaus, white man. >Homo africanus, one species of black man, among several. >Homo americanus, some of the native American races. >(and the most recent discovery: Homo doofus, Mr. McVay.) >Unfortunately, the vast majority of my library is in transit from Alaska >to Ohio, so I am unable to locate the books and references to back this up. >But if you look through your own archives of my posts, you'll find them, >for I have cited them before. I trust you will have the time to do so, >seeing as how you are able to find the time to pick through the archive >looking for those certain out-of-context statements you so love to quote. >No credible scientist before the era of civil rights and equality would >ever have suggested that all races are the same species. >So now, McVay, will you be content with these answers, or will you find >something else to whine about? And I do await your answers to my >queries for you, as well. >Cheers, >Rev. Ron >http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.politics.white-power Subject: Three Questions for Ronald Schoedel (Round 3) Summary: Mr. Schoedel, of KRUP-FM, Dillingham, a demonstrable liar, is asked to retract his lies or support them with evidence. (He is unlikely to do either, in common with others of his breed.) Mr. Schoedel: In your short time here on the net, you have established yourself as both a liar and fraud. Although I doubt you have the courage to admit to your lies, I think you are entitled to an opportunity to address them. Surely you can understand, in your capacity as the manager of a public broadcasting station, the importance of accuracy in reporting, although it would seem that the concept is unclear in your mind, and further education is required. It is to assist you in this educational process that I confront you with your lies. Question One ------------ On January 2, 1996, you included the following statement in an article discussing the Nizkor web: In addition to his stalking and spying, he could apologise for slurring my professional abilities and my professions in general, not to mention my deeply-held faith in God, which I am afraid some doped-out looking draft dodger like Kenny would know nothing about. (schoedel, Zinkor) Since it is demonstrably false that I am a draft dodger, and since I am an honorably discharged U.S. Marine, perhaps you will explain this particular lie, particularly in light of your "deeply-held faith in God," and the Biblical injunction "Thou shalt not bear false witness." After you have explained why you have libeled me, please retract your lie. (Folks in Alaska might find your "deeply-held faith in God" somewhat of a misnomer, after reading your sorry UseNet articles at http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald) Questions Two and Three ----------------------- On December 30, 1995, you included the following paragraphs within two UseNet articles: "Or by self-appointed net censors like Kenny McVay, who would love to see your freedoms taken from you.... If so, you are exactly the kind of person Kenny McVay would like to silence" (Schoedel, Compuserve) "Just a question for you sir. Do you believe that net access and free speech should be available to all people irrespective of political views? Some of your fellow jews, such as one Fresh816 (Andy Mathis) and one Kenny McVay are ardently against free speech on the net..."(Schoedel, Wanted) Question Two: What evidence do you have that I advocate censorship of the InterNet, or that I am "against free speech on the net"? You may demonstrate that your statements are correct by citing a single UseNet article that I have posted, or a single press article concerning me or my work, or by a single report, organizational or government, which supports your claim. If you cannot do that, and you cannot, then will you retract your libel? Question Three: Please tell us why you have stated that I am a Jew. Since that statement is incorrect, and known to be incorrect, please explain why you have made it. Question Four ------------- On September 23, 1995, you made the following assertion: "Negresses are not of the same species as Human Males and Females, thus, not to be engaged with in sexual relations." (Schoedel, Mating) Please provide evidence for this (baseless) assertion, or retract it. Work Cited Schoedel, Ronald. UseNet alt.politics.white-power. Subject: "More on inter-species mating," Sept. 23, 1995. Message-ID: 441jng$7rf@warp.cris.com. Archived within URL http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/1995/schoed el.0995 ----------------. UseNet alt.politics.white.power. Subject: "Zinkor Wackiness!" Jan. 2, 1996. Message-ID: 4ccdr3$3ev@newsbf02.news.aol.com Archived within URL http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/schoedel.0196 ----------------. UseNet rec.music.country.western,alt.conspiracy, soc.culture.jewish,alt.culture.alaska,alt.food.dennys, alt.fan.barry-manilow. Subject: "Re: Compuserve Bans alt.conspiracy in Germany/US Next?," Dec. 30, 1995. Message-ID: 4c2eio$gvb@spectator.cris.com. Archived within URL http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/1995/schoed el.1295 ----------------. UseNet soc.culture.jewish. Subject: "Re: Wanted: members for Families Against Internet Censorship," Dec. 30, 1995. Message-ID: 4c2gi8$gvb@spectator.cris.com. Archived within URL http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/1995/schoed el.1295 - - Ronald C. Schoedel, III * schoedel@alaska.net Patriotic Resistance and Bible Truth, on the web at http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel PATRICK BUCHANAN FOR PRESIDENT: Ask for info on how to get Buchanan on the ballot in your state as an independent canidate this November. GO PAT GO! http://www.buchanan.org DAVID DUKE FOR U.S. SENATE: Louisiana has a good chance to put Dave Duke in the U.S. Senate, where he will work hard fighting for ALL White Americans. Support Dave in any way you can, and be sure to check out his website at http://duke.org From alaska.net!schoedel Mon Jun 10 04:18:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: by nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uT4zE-0002UdC; Mon, 10 Jun 96 04:18 PDT Received: from alaska.net (calvino.alaska.net) by nizkor.almanac.bc.ca ; 10 JUN 96 04:17:51 PDT Received: from [192.0.2.1] (crc6.cris.com) by alaska.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA00283; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 22:57:57 -0800 X-Sender: schoedel@alaska.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 03:00:01 -0500 To: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McOyVay GSA) From: schoedel@alaska.net (Ronald C. Schoedel, III) Subject: You're it You're it. At 22:11 09-06-96, Ken McVay OBC wrote: >>Two can play at this game...You've got my answers, take 'em or leave 'em, I >>don't care either way. > >>At 19:41 09-06-96, Ken McVay OBC wrote: >>>>Why did you resend the same thing again? >>> >>>>- - >>> >>>>Ronald C. Schoedel, III * schoedel@alaska.net >>> >>>>Patriotic Resistance and Bible Truth, on the web at >>>>http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel >>> >>>>PATRICK BUCHANAN FOR PRESIDENT: Ask for info on how to get Buchanan on the >>>>ballot in your state as an independent canidate this November. GO PAT GO! >>>>http://www.buchanan.org >>> >>>>DAVID DUKE FOR U.S. SENATE: Louisiana has a good chance to put Dave Duke in >>>>the U.S. Senate, where he will work hard fighting for ALL White Americans. >>>>Support Dave in any way you can, and be sure to check out his website at >>>>http://duke.org >>> >>> >>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.politics.white-power >>>Subject: Three Questions for Ronald Schoedel (Round 3) >>>Summary: Mr. Schoedel, of KRUP-FM, Dillingham, a demonstrable liar, >>> is asked to retract his lies or support them with evidence. >>> (He is unlikely to do either, in common with others of his breed.) >>> >>>Mr. Schoedel: >>> >>>In your short time here on the net, you have established yourself as both >>>a liar and fraud. Although I doubt you have the courage to admit >>>to your lies, I think you are entitled to an opportunity to address >>>them. Surely you can understand, in your capacity as the >>>manager of a public broadcasting station, the importance of >>>accuracy in reporting, although it would seem that the concept >>>is unclear in your mind, and further education is required. >>>It is to assist you in this educational process that I confront you >>>with your lies. >>> >>>Question One >>>------------ >>> >>> On January 2, 1996, you included the following statement in >>> an article discussing the Nizkor web: >>> >>> In addition to his stalking and spying, he could apologise for >>> slurring my professional abilities and my professions in general, >>> not to mention my deeply-held faith in God, which I am afraid some >>> doped-out looking draft dodger like Kenny would know nothing about. >>> (schoedel, Zinkor) >>> >>> Since it is demonstrably false that I am a draft dodger, >>> and since I am an honorably discharged U.S. Marine, perhaps >>> you will explain this particular lie, particularly in light of >>> your "deeply-held faith in God," and the Biblical injunction >>> "Thou shalt not bear false witness." After you have >>> explained why you have libeled me, please retract your lie. >>> >>> (Folks in Alaska might find your "deeply-held faith in God" >>> somewhat of a misnomer, after reading your sorry UseNet articles at >>> http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald) >>> >>>Questions Two and Three >>>----------------------- >>> >>> On December 30, 1995, you included the following paragraphs >>> within two UseNet articles: >>> >>> "Or by self-appointed net censors like Kenny McVay, who would >>> love to see your freedoms taken from you.... >>> >>> If so, you are exactly the kind of person Kenny McVay would >>> like to silence" (Schoedel, Compuserve) >>> >>> "Just a question for you sir. Do you believe that net access >>> and free speech should be available to all people irrespective >>> of political views? Some of your fellow jews, such as one >>> Fresh816 (Andy Mathis) and one Kenny McVay are ardently against >>> free speech on the net..."(Schoedel, Wanted) >>> >>> Question Two: What evidence do you have that I advocate >>> censorship of the InterNet, or that I am "against free >>> speech on the net"? You may demonstrate that your statements >>> are correct by citing a single UseNet article that I have >>> posted, or a single press article concerning me or my work, >>> or by a single report, organizational or government, which >>> supports your claim. If you cannot do that, and you cannot, >>> then will you retract your libel? >>> >>> Question Three: Please tell us why you have stated that I >>> am a Jew. Since that statement is incorrect, and known to >>> be incorrect, please explain why you have made it. >>> >>>Question Four >>>------------- >>> >>> On September 23, 1995, you made the following assertion: >>> >>> "Negresses are not of the same species as Human Males and >>> Females, thus, not to be engaged with in sexual relations." >>> (Schoedel, Mating) >>> >>> Please provide evidence for this (baseless) assertion, or >>> retract it. >>> >>> Work Cited >>> >>> Schoedel, Ronald. UseNet alt.politics.white-power. Subject: "More >>> on inter-species mating," Sept. 23, 1995. Message-ID: >>> 441jng$7rf@warp.cris.com. Archived within URL >>>http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/1995/schoe >>>del.0995 >>> >>> ----------------. UseNet alt.politics.white.power. Subject: >>> "Zinkor Wackiness!" Jan. 2, 1996. Message-ID: >>> 4ccdr3$3ev@newsbf02.news.aol.com Archived within URL >>>http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/schoedel >>>.0196 >>> >>> ----------------. UseNet rec.music.country.western,alt.conspiracy, >>> soc.culture.jewish,alt.culture.alaska,alt.food.dennys, >>> alt.fan.barry-manilow. Subject: "Re: Compuserve Bans >>> alt.conspiracy in Germany/US Next?," Dec. 30, 1995. Message-ID: >>> 4c2eio$gvb@spectator.cris.com. Archived within URL >>>http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/1995/schoe >>>del.1295 >>> >>> ----------------. UseNet soc.culture.jewish. Subject: "Re: Wanted: >>> members for Families Against Internet Censorship," Dec. 30, >>> 1995. Message-ID: 4c2gi8$gvb@spectator.cris.com. Archived within URL >>>http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/1995/schoe >>>del.1295 >>Date: Sun, 9 Jun 96 19:14 PDT >>From: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) >>To: schoedel@alaska.net >>Subject: Re: Three Questions for McVay...Round ? > >>>kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote: > >>>Round three...ding! > >>>>Mr. Schoedel: >>>> >>>>In your short time here on the net, you have established yourself as both >>>>a liar and fraud. > >>>Pot...kettle...black... Moving on though, > >>>>Although I doubt you have the courage to admit >>>>to your lies, I think you are entitled to an opportunity to address >>>>them. > >>>I will retract anything proved to be false, because I am indeed a >>>fallible individual. But just because McVay or his cronies say >>>something is true does not make it so. > >>>>Surely you can understand, in your capacity as the >>>>manager of a public broadcasting station, the importance of >>>>accuracy in reporting, > >>>Indeed, very true. Though I have resigned that job in Alaska, >>>I expect to assume a new job as news director in Ohio soon. > >>>>although it would seem that the concept >>>>is unclear in your mind, and further education is required. >>>>It is to assist you in this educational process that I confront you >>>>with your lies. > >>>Go for it... > >>>>Question One > >>>> Since it is demonstrably false that I am a draft dodger, >>>> and since I am an honorably discharged U.S. Marine, perhaps >>>> you will explain this particular lie, particularly in light of >>>> your "deeply-held faith in God," and the Biblical injunction >>>> "Thou shalt not bear false witness." After you have >>>> explained why you have libeled me, please retract your lie. > >>>Prove you are an honourably discharged U.S. Marine. Then, if I am >>>wrong, I will retract this statement. Then, you can discontinue and >>>publicly aplogize for your libeling of me and my faith in God. > > >>>> Question Two: What evidence do you have that I advocate >>>> censorship of the InterNet, or that I am "against free >>>> speech on the net"? > >>>Your very existence on the net is witness enough against you and your >>>ideas on free speech. Answer me this, DO YOU SUPPORT THE RIGHTS OF >>>RACISTS OR ANTI-SEMITES TO FREE, UNHINDERED, SPEECH? > >>>I'll be awaiting your answer. > >>>> Question Three: Please tell us why you have stated that I >>>> am a Jew. Since that statement is incorrect, and known to >>>> be incorrect, please explain why you have made it. > >>>You are what is known as a PROSELYTE, McVay. Sure you may not be jewish >>>ethnically, but you have adopted their religious cause as yours. That >>>makes you a PROSELYTE. > >>>>Question Four >>>>------------- >>>> >>>> On September 23, 1995, you made the following assertion: >>>> >>>> "Negresses are not of the same species as Human Males and >>>> Females, thus, not to be engaged with in sexual relations." >>>> (Schoedel, Mating) >>>> >>>> Please provide evidence for this (baseless) assertion, or >>>> retract it. > >>>Homo europaeaus, white man. > >>>Homo africanus, one species of black man, among several. > >>>Homo americanus, some of the native American races. > >>>(and the most recent discovery: Homo doofus, Mr. McVay.) > >>>Unfortunately, the vast majority of my library is in transit from Alaska >>>to Ohio, so I am unable to locate the books and references to back this up. >>>But if you look through your own archives of my posts, you'll find them, >>>for I have cited them before. I trust you will have the time to do so, >>>seeing as how you are able to find the time to pick through the archive >>>looking for those certain out-of-context statements you so love to quote. > >>>No credible scientist before the era of civil rights and equality would >>>ever have suggested that all races are the same species. > >>>So now, McVay, will you be content with these answers, or will you find >>>something else to whine about? And I do await your answers to my >>>queries for you, as well. > >>>Cheers, > >>>Rev. Ron > > >>>http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel > > > >>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.politics.white-power >>Subject: Three Questions for Ronald Schoedel (Round 3) >>Summary: Mr. Schoedel, of KRUP-FM, Dillingham, a demonstrable liar, >> is asked to retract his lies or support them with evidence. >> (He is unlikely to do either, in common with others of his breed.) > >>Mr. Schoedel: > >>In your short time here on the net, you have established yourself as both >>a liar and fraud. Although I doubt you have the courage to admit >>to your lies, I think you are entitled to an opportunity to address >>them. Surely you can understand, in your capacity as the >>manager of a public broadcasting station, the importance of >>accuracy in reporting, although it would seem that the concept >>is unclear in your mind, and further education is required. >>It is to assist you in this educational process that I confront you >>with your lies. > >>Question One >>------------ > >> On January 2, 1996, you included the following statement in >> an article discussing the Nizkor web: > >> In addition to his stalking and spying, he could apologise for >> slurring my professional abilities and my professions in general, >> not to mention my deeply-held faith in God, which I am afraid some >> doped-out looking draft dodger like Kenny would know nothing about. >> (schoedel, Zinkor) > >> Since it is demonstrably false that I am a draft dodger, >> and since I am an honorably discharged U.S. Marine, perhaps >> you will explain this particular lie, particularly in light of >> your "deeply-held faith in God," and the Biblical injunction >> "Thou shalt not bear false witness." After you have >> explained why you have libeled me, please retract your lie. > >> (Folks in Alaska might find your "deeply-held faith in God" >> somewhat of a misnomer, after reading your sorry UseNet articles at >> http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald) > >>Questions Two and Three >>----------------------- > >> On December 30, 1995, you included the following paragraphs >> within two UseNet articles: > >> "Or by self-appointed net censors like Kenny McVay, who would >> love to see your freedoms taken from you.... > >> If so, you are exactly the kind of person Kenny McVay would >> like to silence" (Schoedel, Compuserve) > >> "Just a question for you sir. Do you believe that net access >> and free speech should be available to all people irrespective >> of political views? Some of your fellow jews, such as one >> Fresh816 (Andy Mathis) and one Kenny McVay are ardently against >> free speech on the net..."(Schoedel, Wanted) > >> Question Two: What evidence do you have that I advocate >> censorship of the InterNet, or that I am "against free >> speech on the net"? You may demonstrate that your statements >> are correct by citing a single UseNet article that I have >> posted, or a single press article concerning me or my work, >> or by a single report, organizational or government, which >> supports your claim. If you cannot do that, and you cannot, >> then will you retract your libel? > >> Question Three: Please tell us why you have stated that I >> am a Jew. Since that statement is incorrect, and known to >> be incorrect, please explain why you have made it. > >>Question Four >>------------- > >> On September 23, 1995, you made the following assertion: > >> "Negresses are not of the same species as Human Males and >> Females, thus, not to be engaged with in sexual relations." >> (Schoedel, Mating) > >> Please provide evidence for this (baseless) assertion, or >> retract it. > >> Work Cited > >> Schoedel, Ronald. UseNet alt.politics.white-power. Subject: "More >> on inter-species mating," Sept. 23, 1995. Message-ID: >> 441jng$7rf@warp.cris.com. Archived within URL >>http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/1995/schoed >>el.0995 > >> ----------------. UseNet alt.politics.white.power. Subject: >> "Zinkor Wackiness!" Jan. 2, 1996. Message-ID: >> 4ccdr3$3ev@newsbf02.news.aol.com Archived within URL >>http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/schoedel.0196 > >> ----------------. UseNet rec.music.country.western,alt.conspiracy, >> soc.culture.jewish,alt.culture.alaska,alt.food.dennys, >> alt.fan.barry-manilow. Subject: "Re: Compuserve Bans >> alt.conspiracy in Germany/US Next?," Dec. 30, 1995. Message-ID: >> 4c2eio$gvb@spectator.cris.com. Archived within URL >>http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/1995/schoed >>el.1295 > >> ----------------. UseNet soc.culture.jewish. Subject: "Re: Wanted: >> members for Families Against Internet Censorship," Dec. 30, >> 1995. Message-ID: 4c2gi8$gvb@spectator.cris.com. Archived within URL >>http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/1995/schoed >>el.1295 > >>- - > >>Ronald C. Schoedel, III * schoedel@alaska.net > >>Patriotic Resistance and Bible Truth, on the web at >>http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel > >>PATRICK BUCHANAN FOR PRESIDENT: Ask for info on how to get Buchanan on the >>ballot in your state as an independent canidate this November. GO PAT GO! >>http://www.buchanan.org > >>DAVID DUKE FOR U.S. SENATE: Louisiana has a good chance to put Dave Duke in >>the U.S. Senate, where he will work hard fighting for ALL White Americans. >>Support Dave in any way you can, and be sure to check out his website at >>http://duke.org > > >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.politics.white-power >Subject: Three Questions for Ronald Schoedel (Round 4) >Summary: Mr. Schoedel, of KRUP-FM, Dillingham, a demonstrable liar, > is asked to retract his lies or support them with evidence. > (He is unlikely to do either, in common with others of his breed.) > >Mr. Schoedel: > >In your short time here on the net, you have established yourself as both >a liar and fraud. Although I doubt you have the courage to admit >to your lies, I think you are entitled to an opportunity to address >them. Surely you can understand, in your capacity as the >manager of a public broadcasting station, the importance of >accuracy in reporting, although it would seem that the concept >is unclear in your mind, and further education is required. >It is to assist you in this educational process that I confront you >with your lies. > >Question One >------------ > > On January 2, 1996, you included the following statement in > an article discussing the Nizkor web: > > In addition to his stalking and spying, he could apologise for > slurring my professional abilities and my professions in general, > not to mention my deeply-held faith in God, which I am afraid some > doped-out looking draft dodger like Kenny would know nothing about. > (schoedel, Zinkor) > > Since it is demonstrably false that I am a draft dodger, > and since I am an honorably discharged U.S. Marine, perhaps > you will explain this particular lie, particularly in light of > your "deeply-held faith in God," and the Biblical injunction > "Thou shalt not bear false witness." After you have > explained why you have libeled me, please retract your lie. > > You have made this accusation, Mr. Schoedel, and it is your > responsibility to prove it. In this day and age, given the > American "freedom of information" legislation, it should > be easy for you to substantiate your assertion by obtaining > records which would prove your claim correct. The fact that > you have been completely unable to do so simply > demonstrates that you are a liar, that you are a fraud, and > that you are not, even remotely, a "minister" of God. > > (Folks in Alaska might find your "deeply-held faith in God" > somewhat of a misnomer, after reading your sorry UseNet articles at > http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald) > >Questions Two and Three >----------------------- > > On December 30, 1995, you included the following paragraphs > within two UseNet articles: > > "Or by self-appointed net censors like Kenny McVay, who would > love to see your freedoms taken from you.... > > If so, you are exactly the kind of person Kenny McVay would > like to silence" (Schoedel, Compuserve) > > "Just a question for you sir. Do you believe that net access > and free speech should be available to all people irrespective > of political views? Some of your fellow jews, such as one > Fresh816 (Andy Mathis) and one Kenny McVay are ardently against > free speech on the net..."(Schoedel, Wanted) > > Question Two: What evidence do you have that I advocate > censorship of the InterNet, or that I am "against free > speech on the net"? You may demonstrate that your statements > are correct by citing a single UseNet article that I have > posted, or a single press article concerning me or my work, > or by a single report, organizational or government, which > supports your claim. If you cannot do that, and you cannot, > then will you retract your libel? > > Question Three: Please tell us why you have stated that I > am a Jew. Since that statement is incorrect, and known to > be incorrect, please explain why you have made it. > >Question Four >------------- > > On September 23, 1995, you made the following assertion: > > "Negresses are not of the same species as Human Males and > Females, thus, not to be engaged with in sexual relations." > (Schoedel, Mating) > > Please provide evidence for this (baseless) assertion, or > retract it. > > Work Cited > > Schoedel, Ronald. UseNet alt.politics.white-power. Subject: "More > on inter-species mating," Sept. 23, 1995. Message-ID: > 441jng$7rf@warp.cris.com. Archived within URL >http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/1995/schoe >del.0995 > > ----------------. UseNet alt.politics.white.power. Subject: > "Zinkor Wackiness!" Jan. 2, 1996. Message-ID: > 4ccdr3$3ev@newsbf02.news.aol.com Archived within URL >http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/schoedel.0196 > > ----------------. UseNet rec.music.country.western,alt.conspiracy, > soc.culture.jewish,alt.culture.alaska,alt.food.dennys, > alt.fan.barry-manilow. Subject: "Re: Compuserve Bans > alt.conspiracy in Germany/US Next?," Dec. 30, 1995. Message-ID: > 4c2eio$gvb@spectator.cris.com. Archived within URL >http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/1995/schoe >del.1295 > > ----------------. UseNet soc.culture.jewish. Subject: "Re: Wanted: > members for Families Against Internet Censorship," Dec. 30, > 1995. Message-ID: 4c2gi8$gvb@spectator.cris.com. Archived within URL >http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/1995/schoe >del.1295 - - Ronald C. Schoedel, III * schoedel@alaska.net Patriotic Resistance and Bible Truth, on the web at http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel PATRICK BUCHANAN FOR PRESIDENT: Ask for info on how to get Buchanan on the ballot in your state as an independent canidate this November. GO PAT GO! http://www.buchanan.org DAVID DUKE FOR U.S. SENATE: Louisiana has a good chance to put Dave Duke in the U.S. Senate, where he will work hard fighting for ALL White Americans. Support Dave in any way you can, and be sure to check out his website at http://duke.org From alaska.net!schoedel Wed Jun 12 16:32:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: by nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uTzP8-000E5UC; Wed, 12 Jun 96 16:32 PDT Received: from alaska.net (calvino.alaska.net) by nizkor.almanac.bc.ca ; 12 JUN 96 16:25:12 PDT Received: from [192.0.2.1] (crc6.cris.com) by alaska.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02259; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:49:55 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:48:53 -0500 To: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) From: schoedel@alaska.net (Ronald C. Schoedel, III) Subject: What the "Reverend" Ronald Schoedel can't read In article <4pfond$p5g@tribune.concentric.net>, "Ronald C. Schoedel" , lying as usual, whined: >Before anyone says I was mean and nasty in saying such things, one might like >to see what i was replying to, WHICH KENNY MCVAY HAS NOT ARCHIVED (hmmm, >wonder why...) >"Have you stopped f--king your dog yet?" http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/1995/schoed el.0995 http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/1995/schoed el.1095 http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/1995/schoed el.1195 http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/1995/schoed el.1295 (Sorry, "reverend," but I've caught you lying again. ) >newsgroups are yours, idiot -- I'm pissing in your living room, >metaphorically. It's fun. It's not http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/s/schoedel.ronald/1995/schoed el.1195 (Sorry, "reverend," but I've caught you lying again. ) >Okay McVay, tell the world why you failed to quote THIS information, eh? (Sorry, "reverend," but I've caught you lying again. ) Okay, er, "reverend," tell the world why you (1) failed to find THIS information, eh, and (2) why you lied again, eh? When you decide to tell one of those little Schoedelisms - you know, an outright lie? - don't tell one that MILLIONS of people can debunk with a simple mouseclick. It doesn't look good on your White Power Ranger transcripts, you know, when you use those dumb ones. I mean, who's goin' ta give you one of those neat little pointy white hats, if you haven't got enough sense to think up a lie that will last for, say, an hour or two? (If you're going to lie, at least learn how to do it without getting caught in front of millions of people..... over and over again. Do SOMETHING usefull with your life.) What a moron. -- The Nizkor Project (Canada) - An Electronic Holocaust Educational Resource [Ftp] http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl? [Europe] ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/ http://www.almanac.bc.ca/ (Under construction - permanently!)......unlearn From calvino.alaska.net!schoedel Tue Jun 18 00:30:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: by nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uVvF0-000Xv6C; Tue, 18 Jun 96 00:30 PDT Received: from alaska.net (calvino.alaska.net) by nizkor.almanac.bc.ca ; 18 JUN 96 00:29:35 PDT Received: from [192.0.2.1] (crc6.cris.com) by alaska.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA14115; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 22:27:14 -0800 X-Sender: schoedel@alaska.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 02:26:47 -0500 To: jamie@voyager.net (Jamie McCarthy) From: schoedel@calvino.alaska.net (Ronald C. Schoedel, III) Subject: Re: Retraction Cc: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca At 1:44 18-06-96, Jamie McCarthy wrote: >> Ah yes, I remember that one. That is a good one. Yes indeed, I still >> believe that the spawn of satan will be utterly wiped out. Perhaps >> "sunhuman" was a bit nasty though. I hereby retract using that word, >> please make sure you include this retraction in your archives. > >Well, since you also wrote in October 1995 about: > > "their depraved disgusting sub-human race" > >And in November 1995 about: > > "these sub-human sorry-ass sacks of dung" > >And then in December 1995 about: > > "the cesspool of subhumanhood" > >It occurs to me that, if you insist on "retracting" that adjective, >people might start to think you're a two-bit, inconstant hypocrite, And let me guess...you've NEVER EVER EVER in your entire life said something that you later in your life realized was wrong??? Why do I somehow doubt that is the case, eh? >who doesn't even have the guts to stand up for what he believes in. Ah, quite the contrary, McCartney. I stand up for what I believe in just fine. But you see, people DO change their ideas from time to time, when they see their mistakes and errors. Let me guess, you've never ever made a mistake...of course I could be mean and nasty like Kenny "Fill'er Up" McOyVay GSA and say that your parents made a pretty big mistake...but I'll leave the cheap shots to McOyVay. >And I can't say as I'd blame them. The word was good enough for you >in 1995, but suddenly in 1996 it's "a bit nasty." Aww, how sweet. Suddenly? Let's see, the last documented use of that word was what, in December 1995...five months ago? Gee, that is quite sudden, eh? >So: your retraction cheerfully noted, even though I had to edit five >files to do it. I'm always happy to help you jam your foot even >further down your throat. Nope, what it shows is that a man can change his beliefs if he finds he was wrong and has the courage to admit he was wrong. I have never been ashamed to admit my errors, and shall continue to hold such a level of integrity. Cheers, Rev. Ron - - Rev. Ronald C. Schoedel, III * schoedel@alaska.net Patriotic Resistance and Bible Truth, on the Web at http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel Rev. Ronald C. Schoedel, III Monclova, Ohio 43542-0012 =or= Maumee, Ohio 43537-9759 (This and all e-mail from this address is not public domain, and shall not be used in anyway without the express written permission of Rev. Schoedel) From aol.com!RSchoedel Fri Jun 28 00:55:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: by nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uZYOs-00040fC; Fri, 28 Jun 96 00:55 PDT Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com) by nizkor.almanac.bc.ca ; 28 JUN 96 00:55:15 PDT Received: by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA15955; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 03:50:57 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 03:50:57 -0400 From: RSchoedel@aol.com Message-ID: <960628035056_342191355@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca Subject: Nizkor File Archive Info Kenneth, I trust you will post the statement below within your archive of my usenet posts, and I trust you will post the following *prominently* in my area of your archives. I am out of the white nationalist movement, have basically withdrawn most everything I have ever said on usenet and have no fellowship anymore with the so-called white power/nationalist movement. Rev. Ronald C. Schoedel File: statement.txt ======= A Statement from Rev. Ron Schoedel concerning the White Nationalist movement, with suggestions on how to truly accomplish the truly important things in life. - - - Much controversey has arisen within the "White Nationalist movement" over the resignation of Milton Kleim in recent weeks. As most know, Milton has been -- for over two years -- very prominent within the "movement", expecially in the net crusades for the goals of the "movement". Also, just before Milton issued his statement, I resigned from the ministry temporarily, over some personal things. My own resignation caused quite a hullaballoo, and confused many. It upset some and made others happy. As most know, I have returned to the ministry now. My political work, is another story though. Having gone through many of the same experiences recently that Milton has come through, I have learned many new things about the bulk of the "movement". I have learned many new things about myself, my faith, and my future. Personal hardships are life's best instructors I believe, and personally I have undergone some of the best instruction in life over the last 5 months (see http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel/personal.html for a detailed discussion of these things). I come away from my personal hardships with a new understanding of many things, and ready to continue onward through this journey called life with much gladness in my heart for the lessons I have learned. Personal excellence is a very important goal for any individual. My recent experiences have prepared me for the trials that will surely come my way in the future, and I am thankful to be a stronger, wiser man than I was just 6 weeks ago. One thing I have come to a very moving and very critical new understanding on, is the so-called "movement". Milton has received much flack -- even to the point of being called a "race traitor" because of his resignation from the "movement". As Milton has explained in his own public statements of late, his beliefs of how best to "serve his race" entails marrying and starting a family. This, from the man who was very active in the political arena not that long ago, seeking to change society through the "movement". Myself, for three years I have been playing the political game, and though I have never been a part of any organized group within the "movement", my activities have nonetheless caused me to be linked with all manner of political groups within the "movement". Last year I made my debut on the usenet making very shocking statements, and thus affording myself lots of attention -- some good, some bad. For months my shocking words were posted daily to the usenet newsgroups, angering many, endearing me to some, and stunning most all. Some of the things I once said, I have come to the understanding they were not right. And I was wrong for saying them. I look back though at past writings of mine, and wonder what they have accomplished? In a word, absolutely nothing. I look then at what the so-called movement with it's charismatic leaders and good funding has accomplished. Nothing. In about the same time Milton came to his new understanding of this issue, I was formulating my own similar beliefs, with are now much different than they were just a few short months ago. Raising a healthy, happy family. Many in the so-called movement say that's important, but how many actually do that? What is being accomplished by the media-attention-hungry "movement"? Some within the movement have very good hearts, I am sure. Some truly seek to revive the European Christian Culture that made this nation great. Most however, just like to get together, get drunk and cuss out and beat up minorities. Nothing is accomplished in such activities, except to bring the masses to a heightened disapproval of those with perceived "white nationalist" ideas. The "movement" -- in large part -- is composed of people looking for attention. it is a form of diversion and entertainment for too many; a nice way to make bucks for a few. And with all the various factions that exist, what is there to show for it all? Not a thing. Not a single thing. A movement without real leaders and sincerely dedicated followers is not a "movement" at all, but a stagnant stale do-nothing form of entertainment, not much different than the amusements offered us by Hollywood. It takes our minds and focus off the truly important things in life. I want to see my Faith and Culture continue into the future. I cherish my heritage greatly. But I am not going to see these goals realized by buddying up to social misfits who are doing not much better than minority groups doing the same thing. To continue my heritage into the future, to pass down my faith, we need to raise large, healthy families. That is my number one goal, and in fact always has been. Since I met Vanessa earlier this year, I knew that goal would henceforth be my focus. I withdrew from the political scene for a while (though I continued in the service of God through the ministry), wanting to focus all my energies and thoughts on the future and our life together. I wanted to take that relationship forward, with the eventual goal of what I consider the most important thing a man can ever do in his life: be a good husband and father, in that order. We had intended to marry this Septemeber, and to raise a large family. As my personal letter of 8 June 1996 (http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel/personal.html) mentioned, Vanessa and I split on 13 May of this year. It was a very devastating split for the both of us, but one that I finally came to see was necessary. It is a shame that two broken hearts were the price for the enlightenment I received, but after carefully considering all things, I am sure this is what is right for the both of us. While I cannot speak for my former fiancee, I can certainly say for myself that the break-up taught me many things. Most importantly it REINFORCED my belief in strong marriages and family life. It reinforced the fact that we need to select our life mates very carefully, and with much consideration about what each person values and finds important. It turned out that our goals in life were not the same afterall, thus we had to split. I wish God's best blessings for Vanessa, and there is no animosity at all in this heart toward the one I once loved in a life-partner way, and who I still love in a brotherly way. And likewise, I carry on in life, but with a greatly expanded knowledge that the most important thing I must do is marry and have a family. I can no longer expend my time or efforts on the so-called "movement", as I have for so long. I admit the errors of my past ways, and it takes a strong man to admit error. Anyone can carry on inside their own deluded fantasies. That does not take courage. I have seen, as Milton, that the so-called "movement" is wasting time and effort on things that have not any good in this country. Marriages are still falling apart, children are still being taken advantage of (be it physically or mentally), our culture is fast deteriorating and the reason is very simple: the family unit that God ordained as the most important part of a human's existence has been eroded. Where we should have been working on strengthening families and having our own, the "movement" has been engaging in activities that do nothing toward the ONE thing that CAN preserve our Culture! Milton Kleim is not a race traitor. He deserves respect for seeing the error of his past ways. He deserves respect for coming to the very truth that I have seen in a greater light: the most important thing to do is have a family and teach that family the ways of Truth. One white man and one white woman -- loving each other for life -- and having a large, healthy family will do a million times more for our Heritage than all the "movement" has done since it's inception. I must announce to all my own convictions and new understandings, and detach myself from what I know is a failed movement (though it was never a formal membership for me in any group). I shall now pursue that wife and family that every man needs, and that this world needs if civilization is to grow and flourish in the future. If every man or woman in the white nationalist movement or any minority movement would instead spend their time and efforts building a large, healthy family, every race would grow and improve itself. It is high time to realize the truth, friends. No political program is going to solve real or perceived ills for "or race". No political organisation without the blessing of Providence is going to have any impact. As a nation, we ALL must repent of our errors. Until then, God will allow our race to be judged as He has seen fit to do in recent decades. A return to God and family is all that can save any of us, and our Nation as a whole. When we repent and turn to the truth, only then will God bless our nation. I shall continue with my ministry work, and teaching the truth of God's Will. The Christian Identity website is still online; our newsletter will continue as well. The difference is, now my focus will be on spiritual matters, rather than political matters. Only a change of the heart will have any effect on the world as a whole. We can do all we want to try to change things in other ways -- as the "movement" has, and as we can see, that approach does nothing. I continue now to search for a life mate who truly shares my goals and beliefs, and when we meet, we shall work together to build a bright future for our children, and their children, and so forth. I shall continue in my quest for personal excellence as well. And with God's blessings, maybe just maybe some sense of sanity may be returned to this world in a large way, after people come to the realisations I have. To those who hastily criticised Milton; to those who called him all manner of unpleasant names; to those who have judged him as a traitor and scorned him: Consider that by pursuing a real family life, Milton is doing what you CLAIM to want to do...continuing our Race into the future. I am doing the same now. For God and Nation, and for yourselves friends, consider the implications of what you have been doing if you are a part of the movement. Consider what better good will be accomplished if we instead gave up the selfish desire for attention and focused on loving our wives, building our families and the like. May God's blessings be upon those who see the light and are able to see the futility of engaging in destructive acts that do nothing to further any cause except the cause of pride and arrogance. My purpose in this letter was not to anger anybody, not to put anybody down. I am not against those whom I formerly was associating with. But our goals are different. The White Nationalist movement as a whole is heading in a direction that I cannot continue to go in. My only allegiance is to GOD, my family and my wife and children to be. Instead of reading this letter as a sweeping indictment of the movement, please consider the motive of my heart: love. This letter is simply my humble attempt to share with others the lessons I have learned through my personal struggles of late. And if just one person can somehow in some way benefit from what I have said, then all my struggles were more than worth it. Humbly in God's service, Rev. Ronald C. Schoedel, III http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel/movement.html http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel/personal.html
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